Free Discussion Second Quarter 2013

Please use this post for discussion about the Gosselins that doesn't have a better spot elsewhere. Also please remember that while Gosselin discussion is fading (which is a good thing), this blog is for Gosselins only. We will continue as long as Kate is seeking public attention for those who wish to comment.

72 comments:

Sharla said...

Bullygate continues:
http://www.bullyville.com/?page=press&id=209

Is Kate really being bullied or is it the natural consequence of being nasty to her children on TV?

Sharla said...

Radaronline article about bullygate:

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/04/kate-gosselin-haters-named-employers-contacted/

Sharla said...

If you really, really care about the bullying research:

http://pastebin.com/PQnthrzK

Debbie H said...

I'm with Sharla...This is just what is coming to Kate for the way she has treated her kids...Bullying is usually for no reason, I thought???But as always,Kate will drag every bit of attention she can muster from it...

Heffner Road fm Florida said...

Radaronline Has a new post about Kate

logical said...

I swear ive never seen anyone like to keep things all stirred up more than Kate. All you have to do is watch any of her shows and you can see she herself is a bully ( jon and the showerhead comes to mind). this is just one more desparate attempt to keep her name in the news. thats just sad....

jennine s said...

I don't believe that anyone should be threatened. This is not new to Kate as she has had Steve following her around for many years, although I don't think he has moved in yet.
I think constructive critisism is good, especially if Kate reads this blog. Maybe she will; realize why her behavior turns off people, and she will change or get a personality transplant.

Heffner Road fm Florida said...

I have a question

If this woman sent Kate 72,000 tweets (who counted them) why did she not block this person?

Strang

Fueling The Flames said...

I have a question

If this woman sent Kate 72,000 tweets (who counted them) why did she not block this person?

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The number of tweets shows up in the timeline. If you go back and check, most of them are to Kate or about Kate.

That's the jackpot question. She says she blocks the haters and can't see the tweets, yet she knows that these are haters. I think that the fans fuel the flames, telling Kate about the haters and what they are saying. Kate, being curious about what is being said about her, then reads them.

This suit isn't only about Kate, but about all the fans who have been attacked/harassed by the haters, thus the class action lawsuit.

Anonymous said...

As an attorney who has specialized in class actions--this case will not succeed and be treated as a class action. It sounds like they are suing a multiple of defendants who allegedly bullied her. And it seems as if there may a number of different people who are claiming they were bullied along with Kate being bullied, so that you would also have a class of plaintiffs claiming to be victims. This is impossible legally and procedurally to happen. I dont know what lawyer would take this and file it and waste his time and money other than to get attention for his little firm. TO be a class of plaintiffs, you have to have some commonalities from a common course of conduct, for example. And the defendants cannot be a class because each of their conduct is different and towards different people. They could not be treated fairly and properly to confront their accusers about any specific tweets. What a joke....this is the most simple way, and briefest way possible, for me to tell people out there that this would never succeed as a class action. BUT the individuals whose names were released may end up in litigation one on one with Kate or anyone else they allegedly bullied, but that assuming of of those individuals wants to pay to go after them one buy one), What are their damages? Hard to prove, and easy to lose. What a waste of time.

Anonymous said...

p.s.....i am an attorney who has specialized in class actions for 15 years. This is just going to be dismissed by the court. Nearly any court would dismiss this. However, individual actions will be harder to dismiss and will be taken more seriously with the right evidence and causes of action, as long as there are damages. But if there are no damages to the complaining party who claims they were bullied, they may as well not bother. There are a lot of factors that are at play too. Litigation against the guy who revealed their names--that should be interesting--its easy to identify the group whose names were revealed, and then sue him for invasion of privacy and perhaps other causes of action that I can't think of at 4am....good night all:)

PA Woman said...

whether Kate deserves it or not, the negative comments some consider bullying are what keeps up the interest in Kate. I really believe without them she would have been forced back into the wood work by now.

Reading news said...

"BUT the individuals whose names were released may end up in litigation one on one with Kate or anyone else they allegedly bullied, but that assuming of of those individuals wants to pay to go after them one buy one), What are their damages? Hard to prove, and easy to lose. What a waste of time."

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I am trying to figure out the above paragraph. Could you explain further? Do you mean one by one?

Heffner Road fm Florida said...

GO TO RADARONLINE TO READ THE STORY THE BELOW


Jon Gosselin & Author Linked In Scheme To Spread Lies About Kate Gosselin For Profit –Anti-Bullying Activist Vows To Expose Money Trail Proof

Sharla said...

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/04/jon-gosselin-linked-robert-hoffman-book-author-profit-lies-kate-gosselin-charges-activist/

Link to most recent radaronline report. This sounds more like Kate keeping her name in the news and her lawyers can't get the second release of the book shut down.

hannah said...

Why is Bullyville making a huge deal about her? She set herself up for this. Isn`t this bullying Jon dragging his name into the media. I mean he passed tests about where he found it.

Elizabeth said...

Jennine s: Maybe she will; realize why her behavior turns off people, and she will change or get a personality transplant.

This will never happen with Kate or it would have years ago when people were critical of her show.

If Kate had learned that the reason she is criticized is because of how she demeans, belittles and disrespects others, particularly people she falsely believes she is superior to (including her husband and children) she would not have written her incredibly thoughtless Stircafe blog post about "Mr. Tow Truck Driver." She will treat people this way until the day she dies.

MossHill said...

Elizabeth said...

...Kate('s) ... Stircafe blog post about "Mr. Tow Truck Driver" ...

... was also howl-inspiring for its grammatical/ spelling errors. I don't like to support this, but read the words closely and it takes on a hilarious new meaning !

jennine s said...

And the way she demeaned Kendra, telling her she didn't love her child.

Leigh Ann said...

I read that column about the tow truck. I wanted to know what was wrong with the car. There must not have been much going on if that's all she found to write about. If that's the worst your week gets, I guess that's nothing to complain about.

Debbie H said...

Just checked and for those interested in how well(or POORLY) Kate's book is selling(and I'm sure we all know the answer to that),she has sold a grand total of 29,yep count'em, 29 books...that is for March and April combined...Wonder why all those so called Twitter "followers/fans" aren't lapping it up???Hmmm...I feel sorry if some fool actually put up money for this book to be published other than Kate Gosselin herself...I hope if they did, this will teach them a big important lesson about how "popular" and "bankable" she is ....NOT!

Heffner Road fm Florida said...

GO TO RADARONLINE FOR THE COMPLETE STORY....THE PLOT IS THICKING

Newly Released Text Messages Prove Jon Gosselin Gave Kate’s Hard Drive To Author For Profit, Says Anti-Bully Activist

Spring Has Sprung said...

Just checked and for those interested in how well(or POORLY) Kate's book is selling(and I'm sure we all know the answer to that),she has sold a grand total of 29,yep count'em, 29 books..

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That's only on Amazon. The books are also offered on her website and Barnes and Noble.

Sharla said...

Hoffman's response to Kate and bullygate:

http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/#!/2013/04/update.html

It makes an interesting read.

kay said...

This new book - is this the new cookbook she self-published??
Does anyone know how many copies must be ordered in the first run??

PA Woman said...

Sharla said...
Hoffman's response to Kate and bullygate:

http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/#!/2013/04/update.html

It makes an interesting read.

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That's one thing that has to make anyone suspicious, why would Jon give someone else a "hard drive" for any price? There would have to be info on it that would impact him as well. besides, just the fact that Jon has now been quiet for what, a couple of years shows he wants his family out of the public eye. So why give info to an author?

Babsie said...

As far as the Anti Kate tweeters go I feel it is extremely irresponsible to go on twitter and antigonized Kate who we all believe has some severe anger management issues. Who do you think is the likely candidate for Kate to take her frustrations on? My bet is the kids. The best kindness anyone can do for the kids is to leave Kate alone.

On another note, the RH book. He states the reason Beth Carson and Kate are no longer friends is she wanted to go on the book tour with Kate, and Kate refused her. I am not saying Kate was having an affair with purse boy, but if your wife refuses to allow her best friend to come on tour with her, I would be suspicious too!

Spring Has Sprung said...

There would have to be info on it that would impact him as well. besides, just the fact that Jon has now been quiet for what, a couple of years shows he wants his family out of the public eye. So why give info to an author?

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Allegedly this was "given" to the author in 2009 when Kate threw out all of Jon's things...it was not recent. If you check out the timeline, you can see that on October 5, 2009, Kate did the interview where she cried poor because of bills in her purse. A week later is when the discs were retrieved. Playing devil's advocate here, if Jon was fit to be tied and very angry over the damage Kate was doing to him publicly, perhaps he wanted the info on the discs (everything, including the alleged abuse) to come out.

That said, I still believe that he had nothing to do with it and Robert is telling the truth.

Spring Has Sprung said...


On another note, the RH book. He states the reason Beth Carson and Kate are no longer friends is she wanted to go on the book tour with Kate, and Kate refused her.

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I think that Kate didn't want to share the limelight with anyone, and that included Beth. She wanted to bask in the adulation that was thrown out to her during the book tour. Had Beth been along, Kate's adoring public would have known who the real writer actually was.

Spring Has Sprung said...

Anonymous kay said...

This new book - is this the new cookbook she self-published??

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Yes, but it's not self-published. Publisher is HCI.

PA Woman. said...

Allegedly this was "given" to the author in 2009 when Kate threw out all of Jon's things...it was not recent. If you check out the timeline, you can see that on October 5, 2009, Kate did the interview where she cried poor because of bills in her purse. A week later is when the discs were retrieved. Playing devil's advocate here, if Jon was fit to be tied and very angry over the damage Kate was doing to him publicly, perhaps he wanted the info on the discs (everything, including the alleged abuse) to come out.

That said, I still believe that he had nothing to do with it and Robert is telling the truth.

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According to the information on RH's page, it was NOT given to him. he retreived it from the trash himself. He states the following on his website "Kate’s journal was found by me while combing through documents and computer discs and files that she threw in the trash, the day after she threw Jon out of the apartment above the garage for good." I see not justifible reason for Jon to give it to him.

Heffner Road fm Florida said...

THIS ON RADARONLINE RIGHT NOW...READ THE STORY...INTERESTING








Jon Gosselin & Anti-Kate Book Author Split Money On Photo Ops — ‘He Was Our Main Photo Guy,’ Says Hailey Glassman
Apr 11, 2013 @ 7:14AM

Heffner Road fm Florida said...

what site did bullyville have the names and addresses of bullies

Spring Has Sprung said...


According to the information on RH's page, it was NOT given to him. he retreived it from the trash himself. He states the following on his website "Kate’s journal was found by me while combing through documents and computer discs and files that she threw in the trash, the day after she threw Jon out of the apartment above the garage for good." I see not justifible reason for Jon to give it to him.

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Exactly, which is why I said that I believe it when Robert says he didn't get the information from Jon. My point was in response to the comment that Jon has been quiet for so long -- why give an author this information. This goes back four years...not something that just happened.

Spring Has Sprung said...

Heffner Road fm Florida said...

what site did bullyville have the names and addresses of bullies

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pastebin.com

Debbie H said...

So Spring, does that mean you think she's selling TONS of books at Barnes and Noble but NOT Amazon? I would think Amazon had the majority of sales but I could be wrong...Perhaps she has sold 30 on Amazon and thousands on Barnes and Noble...Does that make sense to YOU??? I will see if I can find out for you...

Debbie H said...

Just checked and she has sold 40 books total on Amazon.com...rank of book is 11,514...Her books rank on Barnes and Noble.com is a whopping 110,028....SO, I have to say I don't think it's doing well ANYWHERE AT ALL...If someone has info that it's selling like crazy somewhere else, please let us all know :)...

Spring Has Sprung said...

So Spring, does that mean you think she's selling TONS of books at Barnes and Noble but NOT Amazon?

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Not at all. I never said anything like that. Your post commented the number of books sold, and I just stated that it isn't the TOTAL number of books sold, but they are also being offered on B&N and her own site. I would think that sales would be about equal on all sites, but whatever it is, it's certainly not a blockbuster seller. I don't think that anyone believes that it's "selling like crazy" anywhere.

hannah said...

Bullyville is being a "bully" be giving out real names.

Debbie H said...

I hate that people have been scared off her Twitter site...We have free speech to tell her how horrible she is so long as we don't threaten...I would LOVE to see her sue someone for just pointing out the obvious truth....Am getting tempted to speak there myself...

Elspeth said...

I believe that the sooner no one comments to Kate anywhere, the sooner she will go away from public notice.

River Of Dreams said...

I hate that people have been scared off her Twitter site...We have free speech to tell her how horrible she is so long as we don't threaten...

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There's a big difference between expressing opinions and doing what a few of the haters were doing, which is using the most foul and vile language imaginable, and going after fans just for tweeting Kate that they enjoyed the show. These were despicable tweets with the f-bomb, the c-word with accusations and outlandish statements that just weren't true. They had no place on any Twitter page and it needed to be cleaned up. I'm all for free speech, but when it came down to it, all those haters did was to show how vile they were with their gutter language, and did nothing to establish credibility. It just showed everyone that haters were out of control and if anything, gained sympathy for Kate.

Brenda said...

Why didn't Kate take the obvious route and simply block them?

I never paid attention to what was going on with Kate and twitter and most of her stuff seemed stupid.

River Of Dreams said...

Why didn't Kate take the obvious route and simply block them?

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Bingo. Jackpot question. She claims she blocks them, but she must still read them. There are haters who took out their aggression on sheeple, and when some of the comments were made, such as "Hey, xxxx, you dead hubby must have really hated you to shoot himself in the head and blow his brains out" that's really crossing the line.

Free speech? Maybe, ethically moral? No! You just don't use Kate's Twitter to make a statement like that directed at a specific sheeple no matter how much you dislike that person.

Babsie said...

In my humble opinion, Kate does not block them because she needs to feel important. She really doesn't care which side they are fighting on as long as they are fighting over her. This is what is sadly left of Kate's celebrity and she is holding on for dear life. I remember when she was on Dancing with the Stars and one of the judges, trying to be kind said in her critic, Kate wasn't and entertainer, but a mother of eight. The daggers that come from Kate's eye's were lethal. Well Kate is no longer a celebrity. None of the television media care about her current drama. She is seen by the media as a mother of eight chidren, all very nice, but not newsworthy. For most of us, that would be enough, for Kate it is her worse nightmare.

Debbie H said...

Well, if it's attention she wants, she will be getting PLENTY of it(maybe even from her beloved TV media) when Roberts book comes out again...I wonder how many shows she will go on telling them how she beat her kids for potty accidents and crawling out of the crib???Can you just SEE that one? Of course she will have to turn down all TV requests to defend herself over the book because she can't go on saying they are lies because they are HER WORDS...Will be very interested to see how she handles this one:)...And it is going to be just as much fun watching her little lawsuit fall apart...I am utterly amazed by her ignorance time after time...It's no wonder she failed at her "Reality TV Career"...

PA Woman said...

River Of Dreams said...
I'm all for free speech, but when it came down to it, all those haters did was to show how vile they were with their gutter language, and did nothing to establish credibility.

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Bingo, when you cross the line, you lose all crediblity and it doesn't matter how right you are, no one is going to listen. I never go on twitter, but I have seen it on other pages such as articles and kates blog so I know where this statement is coming from and have to agree.

Under The Lilacs said...

.I wonder how many shows she will go on telling them how she beat her kids for potty accidents and crawling out of the crib???Can you just SEE that one? Of course she will have to turn down all TV requests to defend herself over the book because she can't go on saying they are lies because they are HER WORDS..

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After this Bullyville thing is over and done, nobody will touch her. She doesn't have to worry about turning down any television requests because nobody cares anymore.

Buckeye said...

Interesting that Ms. Gosselin is so sensitive and outraged when she perceives herself as a bully victim. This, despite the miles of TLC film footage provin HER to be a World Class Bullier to any- and everyone who did not immediately jump to her every demand. Narcissism, thy name is Kate Gosselin.

Heffner Road fm Floirda said...

READ THIS NOW ON RADARONLINE








It’s Official! Kate Gosselin Confirms She’s Filing Lawsuit Against Jon Gosselin & Book Author
Apr 19, 2013 @ 7:38AM

shilohpeace said...

seriously, Kate.. You will get your butt kicked in court b/c every nasty thing ever said about you is likely TRUE! You are the worst bully on the planet YOURSELF and the world saw in for themselves, so give it a rest. Really, putting ur ex through a lawsuit? Oh please.. all that money wasted on attorneys when you are always complaining about money woes???

cali-girl said...

I just had a flashback of Jon Gosselin wearing a T-shirt with Isaiah 40:31, so I googled that and found this article from 2009.

Worth reading

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/religion/post/2009/06/68417449/1#.UXFwK2Pn-M8

jennine s said...

Why doesn't Kate give it a rest? It is the children's father, after all. Hasn't she dragged him through the mud several times already? Anything for a little publicity and portraying that she is the victim again.

Sharla said...

Kate burning herself in the kitchen is news?
http://www.examiner.com/article/kate-gosselin-suffers-physical-burns-after-kitchen-accident

PA Woman said...

Kate burning herself in the kitchen is news?

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For the Examiner, yes. They report just about anything. It looks like they just pulled the info from her tweets and didn't talk to her. Now, if other media pick it up, I'd be shocked. People tweet just about anything. Doesn't mean it should be newsworthy to the media.

jays. said...

Funny the burn wasn't bad enough to stop her tweeting.

Heffner Road back in Pa said...

Kateplusmy8: Got home awhile ago, got report from my babysitter.Hung out with M&C..Now X 4 bed. Ahhh zzzz time! Fun X! Met gr8 ppl! Thx 4 having me! GN!

HUMMMM. SHE HAS FRIENDS???

Wishes And Dreams said...

Heffner Road back in Pa said...

Kateplusmy8: Got home awhile ago, got report from my babysitter.Hung out with M&C..Now X 4 bed. Ahhh zzzz time! Fun X! Met gr8 ppl! Thx 4 having me! GN!

HUMMMM. SHE HAS FRIENDS???

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She said she met great people -- nothing about them being friends! :)

Wishes And Dreams said...

jays. said...

Funny the burn wasn't bad enough to stop her tweeting.

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The burn, she says, was on her stomach, not her hands. Tweeting hands seemed to work just fine.

Debbie H said...

Just checked novel rank...kate has sold less than 100 copies of her book on amazon...so I doubt it has fared much better anywhere else...

Won said...

I would just like to point out that the book sales are for PRE-orders. The book won't be officially released until September.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.....
I'm not defending Kate, but some people might not want to buy it until it is ready to ship. I don't think it's fair to knock her for poor book sales for a title which has not yet been printed.

WonderButton said...

Hi Mods -

That last post for "Won" was me - I accidentally clicked send before typing my whole name.

Thanks,
WonderButton

Jays. said...

I notice there will be some specials on TLC for Mothers' day week, featuring special Moms like te Duggar mom, Little People and a few more. However Khate is not mentioned. I bet that stings.
Of course she was probably too busy being an awesome mom to accept their begging her to come on the shows.

Irish Dan said...

boy how irrevalent is this lady now, I googled Kate an her name did not appear in the top 5 searches,she used to love popping up 1st...15 minutes are now up

Heffner Road said...

Whatever happened to Bullyville?

Xanadu said...

Heffner Road said...

Whatever happened to Bullyville?

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Nothing. He moved on to a guy who allegedly solicits underage girls and has been hunting him down and doing Twitter battle with him.

Elvira said...

This couldn't have had to do with the clothes being ugly or the fad having run its course either now could it?

http://www.today.com/entertainment/ed-hardy-jon-gosselin-tanked-my-clothing-brand-6C10355298?lite=&lite=obinsite

PA Woman said...

Elvira said...
This couldn't have had to do with the clothes being ugly or the fad having run its course either now could it?
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Few of the people that dislike Jon/Kate are going to wear an Ed Hardy t-shirt anyway, and the people that would wear one, never heard of the Gosselins. Most likely, as with other fads it went out as fast as it came in (assuming it ever was popular to begin with)

Elvira said...

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/06/jon-gosselin-kate-kim-kardashian-reality-north-west/

Jon Gosselin giving advice to Kim Kardashian about kids and reality TV!

Betty said...

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/06/kate-gosselin-photograph-mocks-asians/

Kate mocks Asians? Didn't she do that on the show?

Heffner Road said...



Clarification on my personal photo that was stored on our “home computer,” that recently surfaced and was released to the public, without my permission:

This was a happy memory of mine. It was a happy time for me and Jon, smiling and “goofing off” together. Jon and I were opening fan mail together one afternoon — which often filled the garage of our Elizabethtown home — and when we opened this plastic Asian dress up wig sent from a caring fan, we smiled, each taking turns posing in it and snapping photos (on my phone) of each other. Naturally, I “slanted” my eyes to show him my best Asian impression, which made him smile.

Evidently, a fan sent it for me to wear so that I too could “be Asian” like the rest of my family. At that time, a common topic of our show was “everybody’s Asian” — except for mommy, so a thoughtful fan figured she’d help me look Asian too! It’s normal to talk about and even “exaggerate” the feature differences between family members of a biracial family as they are noticed by curious growing children within the family. These types of discoveries and at home discussions are a normal part of being a loving accepting biracial family and it does not make any of us prejudice!

I married an Asian. I have eight biracial children therefore I’m quite certain that I’m the last person that could be called a racist. I learned to cook Korean foods from Jon’s mom and grandmother. I couldn’t be more proud of my eight beautiful children and wouldn’t change anything about them or their heritage. They are absolutely perfect just the way they are.

God loves each of us equally. We are each created perfectly in His eyes. In this family, we don’t see color or preference, we see qualities and hearts. Those photos taken on my phone were later uploaded to be saved on the home computer…..the same source of other private information that was taken and has since been made public, without my consent.

The blaring fact that remains is that a personal photo that left a warm and happy memory, was taken and misused without my permission and opportunistically turned into something that it never was intended to be.

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PA Woman said...

Betty said...
Kate mocks Asians? Didn't she do that on the show?

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Maybe I'm insensative, but it seems pretty mild compared to the way she has treated the kids all these years. Almost a distraction from what the real issues are in that family.