Free Discussion September and October 2012

Please use this post for discussion about the Gosselins that doesn't have a better spot elsewhere. Also please remember that while Gosselin discussion is fading (which is a good thing), this blog is for Gosselins only. We will continue as long as Kate is seeking public attention for those who wish to comment.

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Realtimemom said...

There is quite the interesting article written about kate. Google kate and blind item. If this is true then she has a lot to be worried about.

txmom said...

She told a twitter follower that tomorrow (back in April) that they are planting their organic veggies inside and move them outside when they sprout.

Someone asked her if she had a garden, she replied, No, but her kids seem to think we need one.
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By saying, no, but the kids seems to think we need one, means to me she lied about the initial plantings..This woman gives her daily schedule on twitter...if the seedlings had been moved outside, she would have given updates, perhaps pics, and she FOR SURE would have mentioned using her OWN ORGANIC "VEGES" in later tweets.
She would have given tweet updates about watering, weeding,etc, none of that happened.

Kate's too lazy to do anything. Well, except tweet, watch old home movies and tweet.

Shoka's Understudy said...

I just read the article on Gather.

kate is at home and has drug out the "old home movies" and tweeting to her followers what they are seeing.

Their 20 months old!

I can't believe that she is doing this. Surely they will see how their own mother acted on there, especially Pizza Gate.

kate, why don't you go to the store and buy some hot dogs, hamburgers, chips, watermelon and ice cream and let the kids get in the pool.

What is wrong with you.

I'm Ready, Mr. Demille said...

As a gardener (although I now have physical limitations) there is a sense of accomplishment when the plants thrive and the first fruit or vegetable is picked. The time and work involved is way beyond K8s abilities.

If she did actually plant some plants or seeds and they didn't take, we would have heard about it. Another BS moment for K8, just like her chicken thing. After all, why go through all that trouble when you can get stuff for free. The only thing she acquired by way of life skills is MOOCHING.

Xanadu said...


If she did actually plant some plants or seeds and they didn't take, we would have heard about it

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Not necessarily. It would mean admitting she failed. Kate doesn't do that too well or too often. She didn't say that they had planted them, only that they were going to do it "tomorrow." Maybe she was lazy and never got around to doing it.

"I just read the article on Gather."

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The writer of that article was way off on her facts. She didn't read Kate's tweets carefully. Kate didn't say she was watching videos of her life when the kids went on fabulous vacations. They were watching home videos when the little ones were having an egg hunt, not being filmed by TLC.

Sitting in the dark, crying, and watching videos is just plain creepy, no matter what they were. I don't think the little kids were there, though. It sounds like it was just Mady.

Heffner Road said...

HOW ABOUT THIS


Kate Gosselin

In 2011, reality TV star Kate Gosselin was sued by her former marriage counselor for an unpaid bill of $10,476.

Creative Energy Options claimed Gosselin requested marriage counseling services in Los Angeles in 2009 but she has "refused to pay for services or travel fees."

Betty said...

That's rather old news. We discussed it at the time that it happened.

Reading news said...

Kate won that case, didn't she?

Betty said...

No, it was dropped.

Shoka's Understudy said...

I am wondering when the book is going to come out. Is kate doing the churning the butter dance because the book's deadline has already passed?

Hope she is still sitting on her tweeps and still worrying about it.

Heffner Road said...

Hey Kate...send them to public school.. the bus would stop at your front gate....get rid of the BBB....you could save hundreds of dollars...

Kate Gosselin‏@Kateplusmy8

Eeek! Gas prices!! I'm definitely playing the gas game aka using all methods available2find lowest $! It hurts2pay so much to drive a car!

Grammajude said...

I've been away for a while, but in last month's discussion, there were quite a few comments re Kate driving 16 hours to the Gulf shore with several other people. Was the Silver Fox one of them or is he totally gone now? (I can only hope he wised up...)

Dreaming Dreams said...

Hey Kate...send them to public school.. the bus would stop at your front gate....get rid of the BBB....you could save hundreds of dollars...

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How would she transport the kids anywhere? She needs a van. What she should do is to get rid of the other two cars. Gas problem solved.

Shoka's Understudy said...

She really needs the BBB to transport the kids all at one time. But the school bus would stop at her front gate according to Heffner Rd.

I agree she should sell the 2 cars and buy an economy car for small trips around town.

That would save her gas, taxes, tag, registration and insurance.

That would be thousands of dollars per year.

kinman said...

I bet Kate is not too thrilled that the Rohloffs got an hour-long family update special last week that included a trip to Australia for their family. I would guess that since she is no longer under contract with TLC (that I know of) she will probably not be getting these offers anymore from them. I bet she is shopping a Gosselin update special so that all of her "fans" can see what they are up to, and of course this will have to include an international trip of some kind!

Debbie H said...

Was watching TLC last night and I can't help but wonder how Kate must feel about being replaced by Honey Boo Boo...LOL...With each passing day she is off television, she is becoming more and more irrelevant and less and less a "celebrity"..And with this much time passing, there is just NO WAY anyone will gamble a dime on anything she has to offer...no books, no shows, no endorsements...I think once her contract with coupon cabin is up, that will be THE END...

Dreaming Dreams said...

She really needs the BBB to transport the kids all at one time. But the school bus would stop at her front gate according to Heffner Rd.

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How is that going to save her much of anything? It's only a ten minute trip to the bus stop. In terms of gas, that's not going to break the bank. Selling two cars and getting an economy car for errands (instead of driving the BBB just for herself) would be very smart. She doesn't need those other two cars.

Herrner Road said...

anyone know how much coupon cabin is paying her? for what...she just copies coupons from there site

Moonlight And Magic said...

anyone know how much coupon cabin is paying her? for what...she just copies coupons from there site

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I believe that "blogging" is part of the deal, too. She writes blogs that have nothing to do with coupons, but she's paid for that...not just for copying coupons.

ncgirl said...

"Was the Silver Fox one of them or is he totally gone now?"

No, Steve wasn't on the trip. He's not totally gone though. He was with her at a Chicago marathon and a NYC blogging conference over the summer. This weekend, she has a local charity race. Next week, she's in NYC for a charity fashion show. We'll see if he's there.

Debbie H said...

I wouldn't be surprised if they gave her $100,000 or so for a one year contract...I'm willing to bet they don't think they are getting their money's worth...And she probably was not happy with the lowly money but thought it would be a trade off with all the "attention" she expected to gain from the site...And she probably isn't happy with her end of the deal either...lol..It hasn't catapulted her into another TV show or resulted in anything else BIG MONEY for her...Will be interesting to see what happens when the year is up..(I am assuming it's a year..)

Shoka's Understudy said...

When does her year end with Coupon Cabin? It must be getting close.

Coupon Cabin should of paid her to not be the spokesmodel, oops I mean spokesperson for them when they first realized what a huge dumb mistake and decision they made by picking OL' Kreider!

I know the bus stop ride is a short one for kate in the BBB, but she does need a vehicle to take all the kids together for other trips.

And having a regular economy car would save her big bucks and especially mega bucks by enrolling the kids in public school.

Did she just think that she could just do enough to cover her expenses and just grift for the rest and that she would be ok?

Under The Boardwalk said...


And having a regular economy car would save her big bucks and especially mega bucks by enrolling the kids in public school.

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If she's taking money out of the kids' fund (which she is allowed to do for education), then it's not saving HER any money by enrolling them in public school. It would be saving the kids money. I believe after having their childhoods taken away from them and being displayed in the public eye, that if they are paying for their own education, then they should decide where they want to go to school. They worked for it.

On the other hand, no child should have to pay for his own education and we really don't know where the money for tuition is coming from.

Debbie H said...

I would bet everything I own that if Kate had to pay for tuition out of HER money, those kids would be in public school from day one...But like you said, I have read that she is allowed to use THEIR money for THEM...So if each of them is paying over $100,000 for a high school diploma, there won't be much left when they grow up to say, buy a HOUSE or CAR or maybe something else they really need as an adult...I guess that's how she justifies it...It's not coming out of her pocket, so spend spend spend...basically the kids gave up their early childhood and private memories for a high school diploma(assuming they go for 12 years to that school AND graduate)..Nice work MOM...I bet the kids would be better served if she used some of it to take them on some of those nice trips to Paris and places "they" want to go that she will only go if it's on someone elses' dime...If she lived in a truly horrible school district, that's one thing, but does she? And even if she did, home schooling would be a good alternative possibly...But then, she'd have to put up with them all day and we know how she feels about that...lol

Heffner Road said...

School District she lives in is Conrad Weiser...I have four sons, all went there...all went to college, graduated, and have good jobs....It is a good school district

Heffner Road said...

Does this tell us, Kate got a free U Haul to go to the beach and back?
She is a grifter


Kateplusmy8: @UHaul_Cares @skhanson12 aw that was nice of @UHaul_Cares 2reach out2u!We didn't move tho,just pulled a UHaul 2beach-so seems like we moved

Surf And Turf said...

Does this tell us, Kate got a free U Haul to go to the beach and back?
She is a grifter

Kateplusmy8: @UHaul_Cares @skhanson12 aw that was nice of @UHaul_Cares 2reach out2u!We didn't move tho,just pulled a UHaul 2beach-so seems like we moved

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She wasn't talking about HER trip and that it was free. She was commenting to someone else who said that she moved to a new home by herself. That person didn't say it was free. What that person did was to send a note to U-Haul and U-Haul responded saying they were glad that the move went well. That person passed along U-Haul's tweet to Kate. No hint of freebies by anyone.

Heffner Road said...

she got a freebe...no question in my mind.....

Debbie H said...

Kate is a master at the game..She had YEARS to perfect her craft of getting free stuff out of companies and kind hearted people....I'm with Hef....If she didn't get something from U-Haul for HERSELF, don't think for a second you would see their name anywhere on her Twitter page...Nope...Kate don't do anything for anybody for nothing....

Heffner Road said...

Does anyone know how Kate did/finished in the 5K run in Reading?

Heffner Road said...

HERE IS UNOFFICIAL TIME

I'm L8 checking in...had a wonderful X! Gr8 event,met amazing ppl, some old friends2! Unofficially I was 59th place(of abt 400?!) in 27:22

Seasons In The Sun said...

I'm not so sure about the trailer freebie...not this time. Kate's a master grifter, but she wrote in her blog:

"Next, I made plans to have a “ball and hitch” (or whatever it’s called) put onto our BBB so that we could drive while hauling a very necessary trailer to lug our buckets, shovels, swim suits and coolers full of food! I found a wonderful place near Philadelphia and made an appointment! Then, I researched trailers and found myself reserving a 5×8 sized unit at our local UHaul."

She couldn't stop thanking her free beach rental place enough, Relax on the Beach, but she didn't slobber over or advertise UHaul. In fact, she didn't even say which UHaul place it was. If they had given her a freebie, she certainly would have promoted it in some form, as she did with Relax on the Beach..."I will forever be grateful to Relaxonthebeach.com for reaching out and offering us the opportunity and affording us those irreplaceable memories, literally! Their online beach house business is a well run dependable site that receives the Gosselin family stamp of approval! :)"

If UHaul did give her a freebie, they got the short end of the stick because she certainly didn't reciprocate by promoting them in any way or thanking them. NO THANK YOU!

Heffner Road said...

I wish this site would be able to attach pictures...at the 5K run in Reading today, a friend of mines 5 year old son ran the entire run...finished in the middle of the pack...after the run, Kate picked up this boy had him on her shoulders and said I am very proud of him....where were he 8 kids?

Sharla said...

Photos can be mailed to sharla.smith@live.com and can be put in posts.

Debbie H said...

Seasons, we may never know for sure if she got U Haul for free this time or not...I thought they used a U Haul trailer on the back of the BB Bus on the show but I could be wrong..Anyway, IF she didn't get anything free from U Haul THIS time, I am certain it was NOT from her lack of trying..lol...Can we all agree on that?

Elspeth said...

There is one thing that I am sure of - Kate lies. Considering anything Kate says as fact is basing an argument off things Kate has said is like building on sand.

Michigander1969 said...

They did take a trailer to Disney didn't they?
That was the old BBB she gave to Jon though, wasn't it?

The new BBB probably need a ball and hitch.

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we may never know for sure if she got U Haul for free this time or not...I thought they used a U Haul trailer on the back of the BB Bus on the show but I could be wrong..Anyway, IF she didn't get anything free from U Haul THIS time, I am certain it was NOT from her lack of trying..lol...Can we all agree on that?

Hannah said...

I hope one day the kids can get the money back. She can spend on school, braces, glasses, medical expenses etc. I wish after the divorce they had someone managing the money, NOT HER.

It will be all gone by they are 18(don`t forget the tups prob paid for the Junior Kindergarten when they were 5.)

Bird's Eye View said...


If UHaul did give her a freebie, they got the short end of the stick because she certainly didn't reciprocate by promoting them in any way or thanking them. NO THANK YOU!

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Correct. If a company "gives" you something, it is return for advertising. It doesn't just up and donate a freebie if they don't expect anything in return. With grifting, it gets very messy with the IRS on both the part of the donor and the receiver. If Kate had been given the use of a trailer from UHaul, they would have expected some kind of acknowledgement that would direct business their way. That's how it works.

Debbie H said...

If kids have nothing left in their "accounts" when they become of "age" then that is what they will get...I am POSITIVE that the only thing that will be left in there will be that which Kate had no access to use...If Kate CAN use their money, she WILL use their money...Just that simple...

Bird's Eye View said...

If kids have nothing left in their "accounts" when they become of "age" then that is what they will get...I am POSITIVE that the only thing that will be left in there will be that which Kate had no access to use..

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The laws are very nebulous regarding what the DOL set down. According to the ruling, she has access to health, safety, education and welfare. That covers everything. Anything, including tuition, the security alarm system, Steve's services as a bodyguard for the kids, clothing, braces, can all be used for the children.

Whether she has taken out all of it by now, or whether she has taken out nothing isn't known unless one has access to the terms of the trust. It would only be speculation to say that she continues to grab the children's money for those purposes. Does it sound like something she would do? Of course! Is there positive PROOF that she is taking from that trust for the benefit of the kids? Nope.

1momski said...

I agree that there will be no money left in the kids accounts. There is no way Kate would spend her personal money, money that could go for her NYC hair trips, botox, breast implants, Steve's salary. She can just petition the court and have the money taken from the TLC account instead. What will happen when these kids are college age? I am sure Kate expects that colleges will gift the tups with free tuition if she even cares about their attending college.

Legally Blonde said...

There is no way Kate would spend her personal money, money that could go for her NYC hair trips, botox, breast implants, Steve's salary. She can just petition the court and have the money taken from the TLC account instead

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There is no TLC account. It is a trust account that was required to be set up after the hearings on child labor laws. According to the terms of the trust, she can only access the kids' money for their health, safety, education and welfare, which, according to the law, is the ONLY reason she can withdraw the money. She can petition anyone she wants, but that money may not be used for her tanning, botox, trips to New York, or anything for HER personal use. That's the reason it was mandated that the money be set aside in the children's own account. If she could withdraw the money for her own use there wouldn't have been any need for a trust to be set up.

Betty said...

There wasn't a lot of money put in the trust account as it was established so late in the life of the show. Plus using the money for the children's welfare, a lot of us knew the money would be gone in a year or two. In effect, setting up the trust changed very little.

PA Woman said...

Betty said...
There wasn't a lot of money put in the trust account as it was established so late in the life of the show. Plus using the money for the children's welfare, a lot of us knew the money would be gone in a year or two. In effect, setting up the trust changed very little.

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Wasn't there only the one season of Kate Plus 8 after the hearing that would have gone into the trust account (at 15 percent)? that probably covered one or two years of tuition and then was gone.

If anyone put anything substantial into their 529 college fund, they will have that. But any of those contributions would have been voluntary and probably don't add up to much unless they have a fairy godmother some where.

Debbie H said...

The sad thing about the "kids account" is that we all know Kate WOULD use it for all those things like alarm system, "body guard", and general things that the kids will "benefit" from BUT things that ANY GOOD parent would pay for themselves if they could and LEAVE THE KIDS MONEY ALONE....We know it's just the opposite with Kate...She will spend THEIR money if there's any way on Earth she can justify it and SAVE her own money...She's the most selfish bitch I know of...Still waiting for Karma to be DONE with her...lol

The Bear's Den said...

Wasn't there only the one season of Kate Plus 8 after the hearing that would have gone into the trust account (at 15 percent)?

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Actually, there were 27 episodes filmed. The hearings were held in April 2010 and the 15 percent law was passed then. I believe that the last episode was in September of 2011. If the amount they were paid for each episode was as much as it's been reported, even if only fifteen percent went into the trust, that's still quite a bit of money.

Elspeth said...

Based on what I know, the media reports were highly, highly exaggerated. They were no more accurate than the $75K that was bandied around when reality was the most that the most that they had been paid at that point was $22.5 or so.

PA Woman said...

Elspeth said...
Based on what I know, the media reports were highly, highly exaggerated. They were no more accurate than the $75K that was bandied around when reality was the most that the most that they had been paid at that point was $22.5 or so.
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Even if they made $75K per episode for 27 episodes, at 15% for the kids that is about $300K. Tuition at their school ranges from $12-18K. If you assume $15K per child, their money will be spent on tuition in 3 yrs. And the $300K is based on gross. It doesn't take into account any taxes paid on that money. It will go fast if it isn't gone already.

Not a sun or season said...

IF they made $75,000 per episode which is about the maximum Kate would have gotten, so that is pretty much the cap on that trust. Kate did put the bonus that they got for the divorce ratings into a trust also so she could keep from sharing it with Jon. That was about another $80K IIRC.

Debbie H said...

So Kate gets to play "model" in New York and get another set of freebies...PLUS the chance to feel like a celebrity again(even if only for a day...lol)..Wonder just what her people had to do to get them to let Kate get this gig??? No way they asked HER...I don't care what they say...She lobbied for this like you wouldn't believe I'M SURE....

Bird's Eye View said...

Wonder just what her people had to do to get them to let Kate get this gig??? No way they asked HER...I don't care what they say...She lobbied for this like you wouldn't believe I'M SURE....

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Actually, Deanna is involved with the event and she is the one who talked the charity into inviting Kate. Judging from the photos, it was a D-lister event. These people are to be commended for the good that they do, but I'm sure that Kate expected much, much more in the way of a venue deserving celebrity status. It was a small, crowded place with a makeshift runway, most likely nothing what Kate had expected.

There are photos online.

Heffner Road said...

Do you really think she drove home by herself from New York? and did the silver fox drive her?


Kateplusmy8: Good 2b home doing am sch routine..+1.5 quick hrs of sleep! After bus drop, u KNOW where I'll b!:) Late night d/t goodbyes&long drive home!

Debbie H said...

Who is Deanna? I don't know :) What is her relationship to Kate?

Debbie H said...

Just went and read up on the event...I don't really know much about New York fashion week..I just always see the big celebrities sitting at the events and the famous models on the runway...I guess there are several of those events on different scales of importance...The one Kate did was open to the public for $50....And they had REAL women of all sizes modeling..not JUST "celebrity" ones...I need to find out who the D listers(I won't say OTHER D listers because I don't even consider Kate to be that)..were that were modeling along with Kate...If that's true,I just bet she was disappointed...LOL..She may have thought it was going to be one of those events like I thought and in her mind SHE would be the MAIN attraction there...I bet Kate couldn't even get in the door at one of THOSE events...LOL

Bird's Eye View said...

Who is Deanna? I don't know :) What is her relationship to Kate?

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Deanna Bell is Kate's make-up person. She does make up for celebrities. She has a website, DeannaBella.com. Deanna went with Kate on the recent vacation to the beach, and has visited Kate numerous times at Kate's house. According to Kate, they are very close friends.

Bird's Eye View said...

Betty said...

There wasn't a lot of money put in the trust account as it was established so late in the life of the show.

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I believe that there was a trust established long before that (it was mentioned in articles during the DOL hearings that one was already in place), so there most likely was money set aside before the 27 episodes for Kate Plus Eight were filmed.

Betty said...

From what I heard, the trust was first set up so that Kate could put the bonus for the record breaking divorce episode in it and keep the money from Jon by making it "for the children." Then the state said that 15% had to be set aside for the children so it could go in the same trust perhaps.

Shoka's Understudy said...

Looks too orange for a runway model. This particular runway that kate is walking on is a far far cry from Project Runway's runway! I love Project runway! kate looks like she is walking on a bandstand for a teenage band in their parents garage!

Read more celebrity gossip at: http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2012/09/kate-gosselin-walks-runway-at-fashion-week-what-the/#ixzz26O5ZupPU

sglily said...

Kate on a fashion runway? We have hit rock bottom. Her skin was not tan, it was orange. Hair? Overprocessed. The dress? Ok-for someone else. The one shoulder style left the shoulderless boob pushed up like a water balloon, probably stuck in place with a piece of duck tape. Scary! Someone from the event talked about how they were getting attacked with negative comments about Kate and people wanted her removed from the show. He responded with the fact that they were not paying her for it, but rather she was doing it out of the "goodness of her heart".

...awww, how charitable of her.

Debbie H said...

Kate has a HEART??? Wonder what surgeon she got to do THAT ONE for free..hahahahahaha....sorry, but sometimes I just knock myself out;)

logical said...

Kate does nothing without a motive.....and no one is going to convince me otherwise. This was a ploy same as always. blah

Reading news said...

Debbie H said...
Kate has a HEART??? Wonder what surgeon she got to do THAT ONE for free..hahahahahaha....sorry, but sometimes I just knock myself out;)

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I bet it was the one who inflated her implant for the strapless side of the dress on the runway.

Dreaming The Dream said...

Looks too orange for a runway model. This particular runway that kate is walking on is a far far cry from Project Runway's runway! I love Project runway! kate looks like she is walking on a bandstand for a teenage band in their parents garage!

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This wasn't Project Runway, nor was it televised on a national network. It was an event for a charity held in a hotel. I imagine that they did things as inexpensively as possible rather than blowing money on having a grand venue with an impressive runway. This was not one of the gala fashion shows that were part of NYC's Fashion Week.

That said, I bet that Kate was surprised that there wasn't much glam and glitz involved. I can't imagine that she wouldn't have been the least bit disappointed at the small venue and makeshift runway. It appeared to be a very crowded room.

Crate Kate said...

After looking at the picture of her on the runway, there is absolutely no doubt at all that she does indeed have breast implants.

Shoka's Understudy said...

I know the difference in where kate's runway was compared to Project Runway's in Bryant Park.

Huge difference. Hope they raised a lot of money.

kate managed to grift a cardiologist, heart surgeon, transplant team and a red cooler for her heart?

Good job, kate. You are a professional!

From TP to Gulf Shores shining sea,
a heart transplant for Kreider,
Oh Lordy BEE!

I would like to know if Scuba Steve went along.

That one shouldered push up really enhanced her breast and you can tell they are quite fake compared to the picture of her and Jon's wedding, the fake wedding.

Must be that good bra.

that grey dress is awful said...

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/190342/2012/09/kate-gosselin-attends-teh-real-fashion-real-women-benefit

ncgirl said...

Kate posted a picture of Mady's legs on twitter, and Radar the tabloid site posted it and talked about the response to it. Mady is almost 12, and that photo should not have been posted. As usual, Kate doesn't get it.

Debbie H said...

I saw the pictures in the grey dress too..I thought the other dress looked even worse..I noticed that she has that awful posture thing going again...You can tell she doesn't have the full entourage with her anymore because the "posture" person is definitely not around...For a while someone was reminding her to stand up straight...Obviously nobody is doing that NOW..lol..Celebrities usually looked so poised and elegant at events when they are being photographed...Kate sticks out like a sore thumb..She so reminds me of the clumsy,ugly stepsisters at the ball in Cinderella...Which wouldn't be the worst thing in the world,I suppose..It's just that she THINKS she's CINDERELLA...

Heffner Road said...

Kate snapped the picture, posted it on twitter, and apparently sent it to Radar on Line...

She just don't get it, and won't give up.

txmom0f6 said...

Wasn't there only the one season of Kate Plus 8 after the hearing that would have gone into the trust account (at 15 percent)?
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If the kid's money was put into a trust, trust accounts are taxable at a rate of 35% for any income reported over a measly $8,000.

Over The Rainbow said...

Kate snapped the picture, posted it on twitter, and apparently sent it to Radar on Line...

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Not necessarily. She's been accused of that, but since Radar is on the lookout for her tweets and has somebody actually following her, it's possible that they came up with this all on their own. It's happened before - they watch her Twitter like a hawk.

sglily said...

IMO, the pic of Mady's legs deserved the criticism it got. It might have been different if she had on leggings, tights, or something on her legs of any kind. To me, it's the bare legs, plus the fact that the picture shows one of the legs farther past the knee, and there's no hemline of any shorts, skirt, or anything that's visible. All this and with the way she's posing is strange that her mother would've posted this for ALL to see.

Aside from the issue at hand, did anyone else get the impression Kate was also using this as an opportunity to show of her new pair of shoes? Just seems like something she would do, since most everything she does she ends up trying to make sure she showcases herself in some way or another.

Betty said...

Article now about Kate and the photo.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/17/kate-gosselin-twitter_n_1890699.html?utm_hp_ref=celebrity

Does anyone else think she does it just to keep her name out there?

HEFFNER ROAD said...

Betty...

Yes she just keeps on trying....I don't think she will ever give up.

Shoka's Understudy said...

What I don't like about the picture is the stance that her daughter is in. It is inappropriate for a 11 yr. old girl.

And kate is bragging about getting a new pair of shoes. How many pairs of shoes does she really have?

Is she a Emeldo Marcus Jr.?

Debbie H said...

She will take negative attention over NO attention any day of the week...She really needs to just concentrate on being a better mother to her 8, count 'em 8, kids...But the attention has dwindled down to almost a very faint whisper...Hardly anyone notices her until the haters go after her...LOL...You know, WE are the ones keeping her relevant...When we go away, she will be nothing but a ghost:)

Shoka's Understudy said...

There is an update on the Gosselinbook.com. There are 2 goofy and I mean goofy pictures of kate that I think were made at the fake wedding in Hawaii. She pulls her dress up to look pregnant and in the other one a really goofy face! Also, you can tell she did not have implants then in the picture! (Speaking of the goofy pictures of kate, she must be reaping what she sowed by posting her daughter's picture on twitter and ROL!)

Did Steve take those pictures?

And a new Bible verse!

Psalms 37:7-9

7 Rest in the Lord, and wait patiently for him: fret not thyself because of him who prospereth in his way, because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass.

8 Cease from anger, and forsake wrath: fret not thyself in any wise to do evil.

9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the Lord, they shall inherit the earth.

http://gosselinbook.com/

PA Woman said...

Shoka's Understudy said...
What I don't like about the picture is the stance that her daughter is in. It is inappropriate for a 11 yr. old girl.

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Is she taking dance or gymnastics? That is a typical pose you learn for pictures in either one. We had tons of pics taken of us in a similar pose when I was a kid at dance school.


ncgirl said...

There's another update on gosselinbook.com where it says the Gosselins made almost 2 million dollars in 2008. One of the wedding pictures has been taken down and replaced with Jon and Kate talking to someone at a church. At this time, they were still going to churches and getting love offerings.

abc said...

NC girl
The amount given was KATE's individually filed return. Not joint. Jon's return wasn't posted. At least, not yet.
That woman has no soul.

Skywatcher said...

I went to the gosselinbook.com and there isn't any picture or info on this site. Are you talking about another site?

Thanks

Shoka's Understudy said...

Huge update by the author of the book.

He said the book was suppose to be out this past June. He has had four delays and kate's lawyers are still trying to stop it but he said he has taken lie detector test and passed them with flying colors. I think kate's lawyers made him take it. He said he was forced.

"Now feel pretty confident that we're inside of seven days until an announcement will be made and that's why I've begun to share small tidbits or teasers from the book. Believe me when I say that it will have been worth the wait".

kate wrote a huge letter to Gymboree begging for clothes for the kids.

Looks like the chickens are finally coming home to roost for kate.

She deserves everything that is coming to her.

Debbie H said...

Very interesting about all those "freebies" Kate solicited for and received...I wonder if the value of all those "gifts" is included on her tax returns...IRS...ARE YOU PAYING YOU ATTENTION HERE???? Kate will have serious problems if they get wind of this and decide to look over her past tax returns and see if she counted(as is required) all of those "gifts" as part of her income....If she did NOT, I would sure hate(worse than I already do) to be HER!LOL

sglily said...

Pic of Mady's legs wearing Kate's shoes: The stance would be fine, except she's got bare legs and no hint of wearing any shorts/skirt. I'm sure she's probably wearing shorts, but without anything seen, the close-up on the legs, combined with the stance, is what most people probably find a bit strange-and an attraction to child predators out there to boot. I once read a comment by someone on a Gosselin article that said he "liked" Mady, and thought she was the best looking one (this guy's profile looked like he was in his late 20's!-creepy.) Why so much leg?, she could have just taken a pic of her feet in the shoes.

Kate has always been on the hunt for freebies. What I find to be the worst is that people have said how picky and arrogant she was about it. When she already had two little kids at home, and then six babies on the way, how in the world could she feel she had the right to pick and choose, from matching cribs, certain car seats, the color of their van, brand of clothes (I heard about the Gymboree as well), etc. Ridiculous. Of course, it's all "he said, she said"-but, with how Kate has presented herself to the world, how could anyone NOT believe she would be of the charity coture mindset?

Debbie H said...

sglily...

"When she already had two little kids at home, and then six babies on the way, how in the world could she feel she had the right to pick and choose, from matching cribs, certain car seats, the color of their van, brand of clothes (I heard about the Gymboree as well), etc."

It's really a simple thing...

NARCISSISTIC PERSONALITY DISORDER....

Shoka's Understudy said...

I just went back to the Gosselin book blog and there is a Friday update.

I was flabbergasted about what he wrote about kate and Julie May Carson. When kate met JMC, a PR person, she was instrumental in canceling the church bookings that were only bringing in 4K fee and love offerings and the pictures.

Then it went to canceling the churches and rebooking bigger mega churches on the same days that the other churches were booked.

Then at the first church they earned 25K speaking fee, love offering and the photo for $20.

You ought to see the letter that JMC produced to let the churches know that they were having to cancel because they Jon and kate were having to cut back to spend more time with THEIR CHILDREN!

What a whopper! They accelerated their speaking engagements like crazy.

He then puts at the end of it:

Godless. Shameless. Liars.

Couldn't agree more.

Mandy said...

Yes, yes that was all discussed here at the time that it occurred. No news to the people who have followed the Gosselins from the beginning.

Shoka's Understudy said...

I am hoping that the author will mention kate making fun of Nana Janet at the tups birthday party when she was riding that horse.

That lady worked so hard for kate folding clothes and the Good Lord knows what all else she did for her!

I wonder how all the tups took naps for hours in the afternoon without some help while kate was on the computer, phone and fax machine trying to hit gold from unsuspecting companies. IMHO.

kate is just a horrible, greedy disgusting person!

Melissa In NV said...


That lady worked so hard for kate folding clothes and the Good Lord knows what all else she did for her!

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There was some confusion about Nana Janet and Miss Beverly. I believe it was Miss Beverly who folded the laundry. She is seen in the episode of Gifts for Miss Beverly, folding a huge pile of laundry, with Kate saying that you will remember Miss Beverly as our laundry folder. She and her husband moved to Tennessee.

Shoka's Understudy said...

Another update on the gosselinbookblog:

It is about the Hawaii Renewal Vows.

kate didn't plan anything for the wedding. Jen would email the schedule to kate to cc'd it. Steve and Gina and kids also went and guess who else was there in Hawaii at the same time?

Little People, Big World.

He said TLC killed 2 birds with 1 stone.

I cannot wait for this book to come out!

Heffner Road said...

LOOKS LIKE MORE FREE STUFF...

Kateplusmy8: Cara= free Lego set (3rd free deal) Mady=cupcake bead set Thx again2ppl in line who waited patiently 4us!:) Each child paying took forever!
12 hours ago from Twitterrific

Kateplusmy8: Hannah=fashion design&stroller Leah=ALL baby stuff

Shoka's Understudy said...

Another update from the book blog:

Talks about the hayride from the driveway to the farm nearby the compound.

Says they the kids were crammed in the hay wagon like sardines. In all the photos not one child was smiling even kate and the 2 high school aged helpers chiding them to.

kate needed 2 high school aged helpers, a bodyguard at 800 to 1K a day, 3 TLC crew people.

So they, kate, 2 high school aged helpers, bodyguard, 3 TLC crew people, and the 8, count'em 8 kids all crammed on the haywagon like sardines.

Is that the day that they drank all that milk and kate declared that she didn't have to cook that night, that they already had supper?

Melissa In NV said...


LOOKS LIKE MORE FREE STUFF...

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Toys R Us is running the Buy 2, get one free at equal or greater value. She didn't grift, nor were these freebies that nobody else couldn't have gotten. We were there earlier today and got the same deal.

Heffner Road said...

Kate Gosselin Teaches Value While Toy Shopping
September 23, 2012 11:05 PM EDT
comments: 2
Kate Gosselin taught her eight children a lesson recently. The topic? Value. The lesson plan? Toy shopping. Yes, Kate took her gang shopping for toys that the children paid for with their own money.

According to a report from The Celebrity Cafe, Kate and the kids visited their local Toys 'R Us following a lesson on money, responsibility and the value of a dollar.

"Today was voted the 'best day ever'! We went to toysrus and my kids chose whatever they wanted using their own $! Haven't seen them since lol," Kate tweeted on Saturday evening.

So what did the eight little Gosselins buy? It was Legos for Cara and a cupcake set for twin sister Mady. The sextuplets shopped as follows: Legos for Colin, spy gear for Joel, Legos for Aaden, a house for twin stuffed bunnies for Alexis, fashion designs and a doll stroller for Hannah, and things for her baby dolls for Leah. Sounds like some great choices were made after the former Kate Plus Eight stars learned the value of a dollar.

Kudos to Kate Gosselin for teaching her children the importance of saving their money and choosing their purchases wisely. And congrats to her on the quiet evening she got for free while the kids enjoyed their new toys.

That might just be the very best value of all!

Photo Source: Facebook

Shoka's Understudy said...

Looks like kate had some foreign companies established.

There were 2 listed, one formed in June 2012 called SK8, Inc.

And another called SK8 Productions.

We all know that the K8 stands for the queen herself, kate.

I wonder what the S stands for?

STEVE!!!

If it is proven that Steve partnered with kate and established these foreign companies, He Should Be Fired!!!

It is totally inappropriate to do this with your "client".

I don't know how the company he works for puts up with his shenanigans with his "client"!!!

sglily said...

So Kate taught her kids about the value of a dollar? Ok, great-too bad she's already set a poor example, and it's going to take more than an afternoon shopping trip to reverse damage done.

Budget? What budget? When you take your kids clothes shopping for school, it's probably not the best example to splurge on a couple new pairs of shoes for herself when her closet is already overflowing with them, as reported by Mady. All of the extravagant trips, including Australia?-wow, hope these kids have some realization that these are not everyday occurrences for the average kid (whether TLC funded or not is beside the point.) So many other examples, far too many to list. If Kate has raked in oodles of cash from all the media (which, BTW she says is not nearly as much as people would think), then she should be conserving, for the kids, herself-all of them as a family, instead of her kids watching her blow through thousands on hair maintenance, fake tans, manicures, high fashion, shoes, etc. I'm thinking Kate needs to add "Do as I say, not as I do" to her homepage of life quotes.

Silver Meteor said...

Looks like kate had some foreign companies established.

If it is proven that Steve partnered with kate and established these foreign companies, He Should Be Fired!!!
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I really think that before anything is confirmed about the corporations, this is all speculation. I'm reserving judgment until I see documentation and explanation in Robert's book. Just because it is reported as "foreign" it doesn't necessarily means overseas. In corporation jargon, foreign also means out of state, which according to what was reported there, this is applicable. It can do business in one state, but may have originated in another state and therefore is classified as "foreign."

As for any of this being illegal, none of this has been proven. They could have had a very clever tax attorney who directed this, and everything has been done so following legal guidelines.

Shoka's Understudy said...

New update on the GBB:

STEVE!

One goofy picture of Steve on a plane heading to Disney and a statement of the costs of having the privilege of Steve being by their side.

And another picture of SEXY STEVE posing, sitting at a table with a huge frozen drink, looks like a Pina Colada!

I wonder who took that picture!

GO ROBERT GO!!!

PA Woman said...

Silver Meteor said...
I really think that before anything is confirmed about the corporations, this is all speculation. I'm reserving judgment until I see documentation and explanation in Robert's book. Just because it is reported as "foreign" it doesn't necessarily means overseas. In corporation jargon, foreign also means out of state, which according to what was reported there, this is applicable. It can do business in one state, but may have originated in another state and therefore is classified as "foreign."

As for any of this being illegal, none of this has been proven. They could have had a very clever tax attorney who directed this, and everything has been done so following legal guidelines

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I will also. I've looked hard, and I don't see any evidence Kate has done anything illegal. Just speculation. And, even if it is a true foreighn corporation, there are any number of reasons she may have set that up. For example, selling books or other items overseas.

As far as SK8 goes, S could easily stand for something else, such as "Single kate". And even if it is Steve, I'm not sure I see something wrong with that. Steve is the Executive Vice President and a founder of his company, not just an employee. It might be wise on Kates part, that if she truely is setting up a business, to pull in a business partner that actually knows how to establish and run one. I'm not saying that happened, but I'm just saying there is no evidence what S8K even is, so I just can't jump to one simple conclusion.

Just Down The Road said...

PA said...
I will also. I've looked hard, and I don't see any evidence Kate has done anything illegal. Just speculation. And, even if it is a true foreighn corporation, there are any number of reasons she may have set that up. For example, selling books or other items overseas.

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Very true. If you look up the definition of foreign corporation, it states that this does not necessarily mean that it's an off-shore account:

"A foreign corporation is a term used in the United States for an existing corporation that is registered to do business in a state or other jurisdiction other than where it was originally incorporated.[1] A foreign corporation is one incorporated as a domestic corporation in one state of the United States, authorized to do business in additional state(s)"

"Steve is the Executive Vice President and a founder of his company, not just an employee"

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Exactly. There is no proof that Steve is a partner in any of this. Sometimes speculation just runs wild and takes on a life of its own.

The question remains, though, WHY does she have this corporation or corporations? Is the purpose to hide money, or is she actually doing business, either between states or overseas? What would be the nature of that business?

Heffner Road said...

S could mean sub chaper S corporation

Debbie H said...

So does anyone here have a clue what her "exciting" news is???Obviously, the only thing she would get excited about would be 5 more minutes of fame, so has somebody who has no idea who she is given her some TV time???

Pony said...

"The question remains, though, WHY does she have this corporation or corporations? Is the purpose to hide money, or is she actually doing business, either between states or overseas? What would be the nature of that business?"

Just speculation, but she could be using the corporation as a way to minimize income taxes. If one is self-employed, and has a corporation, then certain expenses of the house, car, etc. are deductible. So maybe she thinks it's worth the 10% or so of her expenses to be used as deductions. Who knows, though? She is unfathonable.

Debbie H said...

Well, it looks like MAYBE this book might make it to fruition after all:) Oh my gosh, does it look GOOD! It's obvious the way he is setting things up that Steve and Kate DID have an affair...Otherwise, there was NO justification for using him the way she did(like he said, to go a half mile down the road from her house to a pumpkin farm or something)$800 a day? Wonder who was paying that fee? Do you think TLC picked it up all the time? She is finally getting hit with it if this book does come out...Can't wait...Of course, nobody much really cares about her the way they they did a couple of years ago so it won't have the impact now the way it would have a while back...but at least TRUTH will be a nice change:)

Shoka's Understudy said...

Ya'll want to see something funny?

kate tweeted on Emmy night, "Sad to miss a year! It's a fun night :) BUT wouldn't trade the gr8weekend I had w my kids for it. :)

Miss a year? So she expects to be able to go back sometime in the near future? She's NUTS!

Another whopper!

She could very easily get a job at Burger King, Home of the Whoppers!

Shoka's Understudy said...

Another update.

He showed the paper that the twins put on their bedroom door about privacy.

I got a really good look at it. Those girls are brilliant! In the upper right hand corner they drew a hand held camera and drew a circle around it and put a diagonial line through it.

I remember the girls running to the room and the camera man was chasing them, they ran into the room and slammed the door and the camera man ran the camera up the door to the paper about not coming in their room unless they were invited.

kate is such a vile .....!

Also there is a goofy picture of kate wearing a pink fuzzy wig, I think that was the Come get yur popcorn!

HEFFNER ROAD said...

could be a sub chapter S coporations.... google SUB CHAPTER S AND IT WILL EXPLAIN....THE COMPANY I WORKED FOR HAS A SUB CHAPTER S VS A SUB CHAPTER C

PA Woman said...

Just Down The Road said...

Exactly. There is no proof that Steve is a partner in any of this. Sometimes speculation just runs wild and takes on a life of its own.

The question remains, though, WHY does she have this corporation or corporations? Is the purpose to hide money, or is she actually doing business, either between states or overseas? What would be the nature of that business?

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Speculation can be dangerous.

Do I think Kate is a bad mother-yes, we can all see that on the show; and may have scared them for life by documenting every move on camera.

But does the fact that she has set up a foreign corp mean she is engaged in money laundrying/illegal activities? I'm sorry, but I could never say that about anyone without proof. That's up to the IRS or other authorities not me.

Jeannie said...

So what did the eight little Gosselins buy? It was Legos for Cara and a cupcake set for twin sister Mady.

Twelve year-old girls, in 2012, choosing to buy Legos and a cupcake set? Sounds like one of Kate's shenanigans to me. Either she made the whole thing up to have something to tweet, or she dragged those poor girls to a little-kids toy store and made them buy little-kid toys. Either way, sad.

Liz123 said...

The wooden spoon issue has come into general knowledge due to hoffman a reporter who is trying to write a book against Khate.. People are livid!.. Just read about it on Radar online and thought I'd share the news.

Betty said...

How could people not know about Kate and the spoons? It's been talked about for year?

linda said...

Looks like the ROL Kate story is shocking the American public.
No doubt the Hoffman's have been
writin this story since day 1 - reread their early columns (2004) in the Reading PA paperwjere the G's were requesting extra nursing help, freebies, etc. We've seen how Jon was treated and know this behavior is carried over to the kids. Let's bring in Jon, Jodie and Kevin to assist in developing some normalcy in the G household.

Shoka's Understudy said...

We have blogged THE BIG RED WOODEN SPOON TO DEATH for years!

Remember when kate was so arrogant when Emeril Lagasse, a 5 star chef was cooking for them?

She actually hit him with it once, and he looked at her, then when he continued, she hit him again, harder.

Then Emeril had to stop and rub his arm, you know it hurt.

I just tweeted Emeril and told him that she kept a diary about beating the kids with the big spoon.

I asked him to please come out and say that kate actually hit him with it twice and it hurt!

If it was not for those kids there, Emeril would of packed up and left, but he stayed for the kids.

kate should be arrested for child abuse and Steve also because you know he witnessed it.

Observant said...

The publication of this book will be a golden opportunity for Kate to reemerge as an in-your-face public figure.

She will have her agent book her on any show that will have her so that she can deny and massage some of the more scintillating tidbits. Excessive discipline? She'll sugarcoat and rationalize that. Personal relationship with the bodyguard? She'll continue to deny that. Estrangement from family members and long time friends? She'll weep over betrayals and stabs in the back to make a buck.

Really, this book is not going to make Kate disappear or hide in shame. It will have the opposite effect. It will be her entree back into Kate All the Time, Everywhere We Look.

Dr Phil, Anderson, Today, The View, The Talk, Ricky Lake, Wendy Williams, Katie Couric, Oprah's new OWN shows. This fall season of 2012 has an inordinate number of talk shows/confessionals. It's a goldmine for the KGs of the world.

For those of us who wish Kate would retire into private life, this book is actually the worst thing that could happen. Those kids will never be private citizens, with an expectation of privacy. Until they reach majority and decide to disappear of their own accord, all eight of those children are just zoo exhibits for their mother.

In fact, I can see a new, revamped version of a Jon and Kate Plus 8 hiting the airwaves in a few months. Something to "teach" us how a divorced couple decided to bury the hatchet of hate for the "sake of the kids." Blech.

Next month, October, TLC will have a special on a 1,100 pound woman who was accused of abuse and murder of her 2 year old niece. I've seen previews on HLN. The woman is so huge, she hardly wears clothes. We get to see her in bed in all her glory.

It took ten huge men to get her out of her bed and house.

TLC loves freak shows, and The Gosselins fit right in.

Just Down The Road said...

It's obvious the way he is setting things up that Steve and Kate DID have an affair..

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I have seen nothing to indicate this. RH only put out Steve's income and expenses. Nothing more. Where has he set up for proof of an affair?


"I just tweeted Emeril and told him that she kept a diary about beating the kids with the big spoon."

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What should his response be? I don't understand the reason for doing this.

Under PA law, Kate can't be arrested for child abuse. Google PA law and see the guidelines for determining child abuse. What some call child abuse, is NOT child abuse under the law, as much as we may want it to be.

Debbie H said...

You do have a point about Kate getting extra attention again, but IF she gets another round it will be as a HATED and OUTED BAD MOTHER...And based on what the world saw with the last episodes of Kate plus 8, I believe people will think she is capable of doing all of that...SO she will get publicity alright BUT do you think she can handle all of that negative stuff? All she can do is lie and she's not a very good liar..I think it will be the END of the last of her fans...I don't think it will bring her anything good...

Debbie H said...

Down the road didn't see the connection about the fair...
I was stating what I felt was obvious to ME that Kate and Steve had an affair...Obviously it has been rumored to death and by him showing that Steve was WITH THEM on events that he didn't need to be on(such as the half mile from home pumpkin farm ride)to ME seemed to show him as being with them for reasons OTHER than the needed security...just my opinion...like you have yours...

Pony said...

Jeannie said... "Twelve year-old girls, in 2012, choosing to buy Legos and a cupcake set? Sounds like one of Kate's shenanigans to me. Either she made the whole thing up to have something to tweet, or she dragged those poor girls to a little-kids toy store and made them buy little-kid toys. Either way, sad. "

I have to disagree with this analysis. Legos are great things for kids Cara's age to buy. She may be a budding engineer or architect. My 27 year old son is an engineer and he buys Legos all the time as do many engineers I know. Lego makes sets that are for ages 16+, so Cara is plenty young enough for them. As for Mady's cupcake set, I'd say it depends. If it's an EasyBake oven, then yes, she's too old for that. But perhaps it's one of the cool cupcake sets I've seen for adults at home stores. Again, age-appropriate for Mady to be learning to bake cupcakes.

I do think that Kate is a jerk for tweeting and posting about her children's personal lives.

Just Down The Road said...

Obviously it has been rumored to death and by him showing that Steve was WITH THEM on events that he didn't need to be on(such as the half mile from home pumpkin farm ride)to ME seemed to show him as being with them for reasons OTHER than the needed security...just my opinion...like you have yours...

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I have no opinion one way or the other if the two of them are or are not a couple, or Robert's reason for reporting that Steve was on the farm wagon. It's been hashed to death over the years, and yet nothing has ever been confirmed one way or another. Perhaps Robert will deal with this in his book.

"All she can do is lie and she's not a very good liar..I think it will be the END of the last of her fans...I don't think it will bring her anything good..."

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I do have an opinion about this. I think that all of this will not be the end of her fans, but it will cause them to snuggle up and support her even more. She is now the victim, the one being harassed and bullied, who needs their protection. In order to get in her good graces they will rally around her. In fact, she tweeted today:

@HEYJAY404 xo thanks for your support :) keep it up;) and use your block button as often as necessary;)

HEFFNER ROAD said...

Editor

On the heels of the shocking claim that Kate Gosselin used a wooden spoon to discipline her children, RadarOnline.com has exclusively learned that ex-hubby Jon Gosselin was fully aware and didn't approve of her methods.

Reporter Robert Hoffman claims he found secret journals that Kate used to help her write her books, Multiple Bles8ings and Eight Little Faces, and said, “She uses that ‘Spanker’ on a daily basis for anything and everything. The spanking entries are endless."

"Jon knew that Kate was using that wooden spoon with the kids and hated it," a family insider exclusively told Radar.

PHOTOS: Kate Gosselin & Her Kids Get Ice Cream

"There was more than one instance where he thought she used it too aggressively."

In fact, the insider reveals that during the demise of their marriage that infamous wooden spoon turned out to be a source of heartache for Kate.

"When their marriage was crumbling and they weren't on good terms, they were both using whatever they could against each other," the insider said.

PHOTOS: Kate Gosselin’s 10 Sexiest Bikini Looks!

"And the spoon and Kate's methods of discipline were good ammo for Jon."

Robert claimed he found similar texts in Kate's journals admitting that she often worried about her excessive physicality, allegedly writing in the diary that she told Jon that she “felt like I may hurt his children,” and that she preferred it when the kids were “out of her sight” whenever she flew off the handle, because then she knew “that they are safe.”

PHOTOS: Kate Gosselin Through The Years

In one entry, Robert claims Kate wrote that she was so infuriated after Collin threw a tantrum she "sent him to his crib and whipped him into it very hard...I never felt that I may really seriously injure a child, but today was that day.”

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On An Autumn Breeze said...


kate should be arrested for child abuse and Steve also because you know he witnessed it.

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The events that Kate wrote about occurred prior to the writing of Multiple Blessings. Steve wasn't even around then to witness it. Kate isn't going to be arrested for child abuse and neither is Steve. Steve is not a mandatory reporter under PA law. Under the law, he has no obligation to report anything. If he saw something, then morally and ethically, it should have been reported. Legally, however, it's a different story. Arrest doesn't even enter into it.

cali-girl said...

I still remember how Kate, during the NYC trip and her ice cream run, really shoved Collin down hard on the seat of the open double decker bus.

It was disturbing for me, as a viewer, to see this consequence of her irritation and anger.

TLC--good tv for you???? :-(

Protect8 said...

In the early days of Jon and Kate Plus 8, the couple professed to be very religious and attended an Assembly of God church. Two of my neighbors were Assembly of God when our children were young. The wooden spoons for discipline were paraded around with pride - as were wood paint stirrers - they had a stack of those because they broke easily. According to them, their church stronly advocated, "spare the rod, spoil the child." When one of the mothers put her 10 year old in charge of younger siblings, the girl kept the wooden spoon in her back pocket. Of course, when Jon and Kate realized they could not scam churches into giving them money after they became famous on TLC, they quit going to church. Yet the wooden spoon remained.

The wooden spoon or kate's out of control temper is not news to anyone who followed the Gosselin train wreck.

According to a lot of mental health professionals, emotional and psychological abuse can have longer lasting negative affects on a child than physical abuse. Kate's belittling, demeaning, disrespectful and cruel attitude toward her children should be a much bigger story than the spoon, in my opinion. One cringes at the thought of what went/goes on when the camera was there.

She is a very, very messed up person - and yes, this latest charge will get her back on TV - just what she wants.

Just Zip It said...


She is a very, very messed up person - and yes, this latest charge will get her back on TV - just what she wants.

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Nope. I don't think so. To make the talk show circuit and be questioned is only going to open a can of worms. She is not going to be able to deny these allegations because they are written in her diaries and e-mails. To try to set the record straight would invite more revelations and she is unable to keep her lies straight. Any attorney worth his weight is going to tell her to just shut up about the whole thing because anything she does is going to make it worse.

linda said...

Perhaps the statute of limitations has now expired and former employees, neighbors, school and church parents can now come forward
with their experiences. When the G's lived in E'town, there was a topix - local news site that provided local color to the G's daily life. Enjoy reading the commentaries. Thanks for printing.

Reading news said...

The thing that baffles me is how did the book's author get access to her journals. I would think the only person or persons who would have known about them would have been Jon or an employee. If she was guilty of over-disciplining these kids then I am sure it has continued.

The person who could shed some light would be Beth Carson. I wish she would someday come forward and let us know what really happened in Utah.

Debbie H said...

So she gets back on TV for another few seconds of fame..Is THIS really what she wants to be making the rounds about? Especially IF she KNOWS that it's all true and somebody just might ante up some PROOF???OR would she just maybe want to sit this one out? These are serious accusations and her kids are still very young...There is always a possibility of perhaps LOSING custody of her little money makers and we know she's far from being done with them just yet...

Just Zip It said...

Perhaps the statute of limitations has now expired and former employees, neighbors, school and church parents can now come forward
with their experiences

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Statute of limitations on what? C/As? I doubt if neighbors, school and church parents have all been forced to sign them. Employees, most likely. Moreover, some of them never expire, but are enforceable for a lifetime. Nobody knows the duration of the ones Kate used for her employees. It could have been for five or ten years, or even longer

I have a friend who worked in public relations/manager for a major celebrity, as his right-hand go-to person and confidant. The C/A she had to sign was a gag order that was in effect for her lifetime.

Debbie H said...

Just down the road said

"I do have an opinion about this. I think that all of this will not be the end of her fans, but it will cause them to snuggle up and support her even more. She is now the victim, the one being harassed and bullied, who needs their protection. In order to get in her good graces they will rally around her."

I am not so sure something as serious as all of this would be brushed off by even HER fans...And I don't think EVEN Kate is stupid enough to go around denying something that could be proven true and open up a can of worms that could very well cost her custody of her children...And if this is NOT true, the writer of the book would be a lunatic to put it in there...Perhaps THIS is the reason she has been fighting so hard to keep this particular book from hitting the shelves...She didn't try to stop any others...So if she gets found out in an affair or so what she begs for money when she has tons...No big deal, right? But THIS could destroy her to the very core and cause her to lose everything...If Jon got full legal custody of the kids, her life is over...She would have to get a real job if she lost her 8 moneymakers AND got branded a child abuser...

logical said...

it does not matter to me or not if Jon helped this guy or not. the bigger question is----why did no one before NOW do anything? why was when this was going on no one stepping in and helping? I remember something about the crew wanting off the show and some indeed did move to the duggars because they didnt like somthing going on....i wonder if this is it?

Reading news said...

It looks as though the book is only available in Kindle form on Amazon. I wonder if this is how the author got around the legal threats if the book was published.

HEFFNER ROAD said...

What happens to the person that signed an order not to tell anything....and now decides to talk

Skywatcher said...

Looks like the book is now out via Kindle!

Shoka's Understudy said...

Go to the gosselinbookblog and click on the button:

Click to Order

Then it will go to Amazon and you can read parts of it.

I have just started Chapter 1!!!

Reading news said...

Debbie H said:

...............Perhaps THIS is the reason she has been fighting so hard to keep this particular book from hitting the shelves...She didn't try to stop any others...So if she gets found out in an affair or so what she begs for money when she has tons...No big deal, right? But THIS could destroy her to the very core and cause her to lose everything...If Jon got full legal custody of the kids, her life is over...She would have to get a real job if she lost her 8 moneymakers AND got branded a child abuser...

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What other books? The only other one I remember was nothing more than a repeat of everything we already knew. Were there others?

Also, I doubt there is any judge in Pennsylvania who would award Jon custody of eight children. He has never shown a very good work ethic and wouldn't be able to care for them financially. It also would require more space than he would be able to afford.

HEFFNER ROAD said...

LATEST RE THE BOOK

Explosive secrets about Kate Gosselin, including how she allegedly hit her children with a wooden spoon, are about to be revealed in a bombshell new book, and RadarOnline.com has learned that the author is a journalist who’s close friends with her ex-husband Jon Gosselin!

Reporter Robert Hoffman has been friends with Jon for years, which is how he learned the supposed behind-the-scenes details of Kate’s private life.

Hoffman was an employee of the local newspaper near the Gosselins' home and began working for Us Weekly magazine covering the reality show couple in 2009 when he became good friends with Jon, the blog Small Town Gosselins reports.

PHOTOS: Kate Gosselin Through The Years

“Robert Hoffman and Jon Gosselin eventually became friends, or, in my opinion, Robert ingratiated himself to Jon. Jon gradually included Robert in his social activities, inviting him inside the fence, including him in dinners and on trips such as the one to Las Vegas for the Wet Republic pool party,” the blog reports.

As RadarOnline.com exclusively reported, Hoffman tells the new issue of Star magazine that he found secret journals Kate used to help her write her books, Multiple Bles8ings and Eight Little Faces, and claimed that she hit the children with a wooden spoon, saying: “She uses that ‘Spanker’ on a daily basis for anything and everything. The spanking entries are endless.

“She was beating 2-year-old babies in diapers,” he claimed and said that Kate kept detailed notes on her computer about using a wooden spoon to hit her children, yanking them around by their hair, and punishing them for transgressions as minor as trying to climb out of a crib or not adjusting to potty training quickly enough.

PHOTOS: Kate Gosselin’s 10 Sexiest Bikini Looks!

A family source exclusively told RadarOnline.com that Jon was aware about the alleged abused.

"Jon knew that Kate was using that wooden spoon with the kids and hated it," the insider told Radar.

PHOTOS: Kate Gosselin & Her Kids Get Ice Cream

Now that it has been revealed that the author was a friend of Jon’s it definitely raises a question about whether Jon was complicit in helping his friend with explosive details about his ex-wife and her parenting methods.

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Debbie H said...

Heffner Road...I'm not an attorney or anything "legal",but I would imagine if there is reason to ever believe a "crime" was committed, a court has the power to subpoena anyone...I think signing a CA would only be enforceable to that person just going out and telling on their OWN...Lordy Bee but this thing has the potential to blow all of Kate's secrets out of the water IF she fights it and ends up in court over anything requiring "testimony"...

PA Woman said...

Just Down The Road said...
I do have an opinion about this. I think that all of this will not be the end of her fans, but it will cause them to snuggle up and support her even more. She is now the victim, the one being harassed and bullied, who needs their protection. In order to get in her good graces they will rally around her.

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I agree. I think she has lost the fans she is going to lose. On the most part, she has been forgotten except for a few fans that will hang on forever. I actually will be surprised if this book does anything. I expect it to only be purchased by a handful of fans and haters. What i think would sell is a book about how being on the camera's has affected the children. But we won't see that unless one of the twins decides to write it when she hits at least 18.

Mandy said...

The book seems to be more rehash of what has been talked about already with perhaps some things thrown in from Jon for confirmation. I'm not wasting my money on any story about a has been.

HEFFNER ROAD said...

SHE KNOWS SHE IS IN TROUBLE


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PA Woman said...

I've been looking at some of the online articles about the book. It's interesting that almost all of the spend at least an equal amount of time on the fact the Hoffman is/was Jon's "friend" as they do on Kate's actions.

One blog did raise on interesting question. Since Hoffman has the documentation, why didn't he take it to the authorities instead of just writing a book for profit? That is a good question in light of the critisim of Steve, the film crew, etc having not done anything.

Just Zip It said...

The book seems to be more rehash of what has been talked about already with perhaps some things thrown in from Jon for confirmation. I'm not wasting my money on any story about a has been.

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The book is now available, and while there are some things that have been known, it most definitely is not all a re-telling. Without spoiling it for others, it definitely is worth reading...in her own words. It is not a rehashing, but contains new revelations written by Kate herself.

The Confidentiality Agreements, spelled out in detail, DO NOT EXPIRE. The people who signed them are bound for life. If violated, she could take everything that they have.

It's worth the small cost of the book $8.88, just to read the extent of those agreements.

HEFFNER ROAD said...

HER YOGA CLASS...WANTS TO SHUT OUT THE OUTSIDE WORLD...INTERESTING


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HEFFNER ROAD said...

FROM GATHER

Kate Gosselin Alleged Child Abuse: Who Is Robert Hoffman?
September 28, 2012 10:25 AM EDT
comments: 5
Recently, some shocking allegations regarding Kate Gosselin and her parenting came to light. As much as Kate haters would love to use this to justify their disdain for the mother of eight, isn't it fair to look into the rumors before accepting them as fact?

The folks over at Radar Online thought so and stumbled upon a site which, thanks to some investigative reporting, was able to dig up the truth on this "Robert Hoffman" who is shopping a tell-all book about Kate and her less than impressive parenting ways. Unfortunately, the site isn't discounting the claims, but rather the person who made them.

As it turns out, Robert Hoffman is a former journalist who, after losing his job with a paper in Wernersville, was picked up by Us Weekly to feed them information about the Gosselin's. He was not alone, though, and another former employee of the same paper that had fired Hoffman also teamed up with him. The two planned on writing a tell-all book about the Gosselin's from the beginning.

Hoffman was able to forge a friendship with Jon and obtain some insider information. However, the Small Town Gosselin site questions Hoffman's motives. Is he sharing his "insider information" because he is concerned for the eight children or because he sees dollar signs? They also point out instances where Hoffman exaggerated claims about the Gosselin's in the past so, who is to say he would not do so again? Radar Online questions if, perhaps, Jon Gosselin has something to do with Robert Hoffman's book given their friendship.

In the end, this entire story seems to be a huge mess. Is Kate Gosselin mother of the year? Not exactly, but if these allegations (which include Kate using a wooden spoon to hit her children) are false or exaggerated, she certainly deserves to have that come to light. If these allegations are true, though (and Jon Gosselin did indeed know), why has something not been done? Certainly Jon would have made these allegations known during the divorce.

What do you think is the truth?

Mandy said...

Not for me, thanks. I've read plenty of confidentiality and non-disclosure agreements already in my life. To me there's nothing interesting about them. I have better uses for my money and time.

June said...

Reading all this makes me think of the time Kate refused water to Mady and nearly jerked Alexis arm off.That is on video,also on thier show when her brother was putting shelves up in the garage Kate had her wooden spoon in hand with Aden.There is also a video of her spoon in hand sending one of them to the corner.This was a two yr old.I beleive all of it ,Kate needs help ,that's Steve job to keep her in check in public.imo

Techymum said...

Those poor children. That is all I can think in this. Yes it is a nasty book about K8, but it is their mother. It is their life and reality. Now they are back in the spotlight on the tabloids, even though they deserve just to be children and have privacy.

I just wish someone/anyone would wake up, and remember the kids.

Debbie H said...

Reading news said

"What other books? The only other one I remember was nothing more than a repeat of everything we already knew. Were there others?

Also, I doubt there is any judge in Pennsylvania who would award Jon custody of eight children. He has never shown a very good work ethic and wouldn't be able to care for them financially. It also would require more space than he would be able to afford."

There are TWO that I see on Amazon.."Secret World of Jon and Kate" and the other one is "Jon and Kate plus Eight, Reality TV and the selling of the Gosselins...Still both are available to buy..Don't know if one of these is the one you are referring to but that's all I find..As far a judge never awarding to custody to Jon because of not having a "big enough" space, perhaps if Kate pays him child support, he will be able to...OR perhaps HE can move into the mansion and take over for a while:)...I just don't see if Kate lost custody for child abuse, a judge would BYPASS their only remaining parent because of the size of his abode...I can't imagain custody going to a relative or a foster home??But, stranger things have happened...Who knows...

Debbie H said...

I don't have a Kindle(or whatever it is)..Can I read it online if I buy it? Does anyone know how that works?Thanks!

HEFFNER ROAD said...

dont believe Steve is in the picture now...did't I read he was in security with that bo bo kid

ncgirl said...

"I don't have a Kindle(or whatever it is)..Can I read it online if I buy it?"

There is a link on the Gosselinbook.com site below the order link about dowloading a Kindle app for your computer. I did it for my desktop PC. You can also do it for a Mac. I had never done it before, and it worked.

"What other books?"

Al Walentis and Polly Kahl wrote books. I've never read them, but from what I understand, there was nothing new in them.

I've read a little of the new book, and there are things we already know, but I learned some new things. I read on a site the book talks about the boob job and school expulsion. Haven't got that far yet.

ncgirl said...

I forgot to mention in my last post that it's not Steve with Honey Boo Boo. I thought it was Steve too , but people on another site said it is a tall, African- American man. He's been seen with Kate at times, just not as much as Steve.

Also Kate is supposed to be on the Katie Couric show Wednesday. The description is very benign so I wonder if it was scheduled before the book came out.

Sixymomma said...

Debbie H: Do you have an android or iphone? Amazon is letting you load it for free, the book. There are instructions as "how to" where the book is located on Amazon.
@Sharla...where are you????
So many of us are coming out of the woodwork that have gone to 'blissfilled sleep' in an attempted break from the G tragedy.
Hope all is well with you, Sharla and Co. :)

Reading news said...

ncgirl said...

....Also Kate is supposed to be on the Katie Couric show Wednesday. The description is very benign so I wonder if it was scheduled before the book came out.

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now that could be interesting - she is never easy on guests - remember the Sara Palin interview.

Exhausted said...

I think the Hoffman book is worth the read. I actually cannot put it down (except the parts that make me sick--what person can paddle a baby?). It confirms what most of us have always known/suspected, but it's good to have some concrete "proof" for others.

As I say to my students, however, some of the glaring proofreading mistakes detract from the integrity of the piece. I also don't understand how he just happened upon all this stuff in the trash. Is Kate really that dumb to have thrown all that stuff away, or did Jon give this guy free access to all this? I just worry that he will be crushed by TLC and that Jon will somehow be implicated. I wonder if he had a lawyer put this through a vetting process.

I cannot imagine that there wasn't a big publisher out there who wouldn't have died to have this tell-all. Then, Hoffman could have had the protection of a swarm of lawyers just like Kate and Discovery, and the book could have undergone a vetting process. From the latest letter posted on his site, it looks as though he's going to be crushed, which is really a shame.

But all things aside, Kate is even more pathetic and despicable than one can imagine. Her email "Can we sue?" about Kevin and Jodi is beyond words. You can even see from her journals what a monster TLC created when the payment and fringe benefits started. It just snowballed completely out of control once she got a taste of free things and pseudo-celebrity treatment.

But again, those poor, poor kids. I would be happy if they could be left alone above all (no books or TV to remind them of this pain), and I just wonder how all these people could be aware of those crib punishments and the rage she showed toward them and not step in. As a father, I could not rest leaving my kids alone with someone as unhinged as she appears to be.

HEFFNER ROAD said...

they have two body guards....

HEFFNER ROAD said...

Don't think bestest is a good word to use...Kate...just say you are the best.


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Shoka's Understudy said...

kate is an idiotest!

kate just say you are an idiot!

Wow! She is one cold witch! SUE Kevin and Jodi???

The Roosters are knocking on the chicken coop door, kate! They want to come in and roost! You are finished!

After what all Kevin and Jodi have done for her and the kids? This is only the beginning. I am wondering if the Katie Couric show was taped BEFORE the book started coming out?

realtimemom said...

This book is very good, I couldnt put it down! It does have proof reading mistakes, Reading her journals is scary...She admits she goes overboard (I hit them as hard as I could! then I realized I might really hurt one of them, so I whipped him into his crib really hard and left him there until jon got home)
The author is the one who was driving jon away during the drop off where all the gosselin kids were screaming about having to go back with their mother.

She is beyond disgusting and evil! she was all haha! how are they going to explain our million dollar house away! hee hee hee!

PJ in MA said...

It was very poorly written but a lot of the claims made by the tabloids, bloggers and others are now, allegedly, proven by Kate's own journal and emails. I do wonder how Hoffman got his hands on all the documents and managed to convince people to disregard their NDA's... (My take: Should probably be titled "My Life with Kate" by Jon Gosselin or it is just a really, really, REALLY sad, sick, desperate attempt for the Kate camp to try and make her relevant again.) In any case, I suck for having 1. bought it and 2. read it. But it's not like I couldn't . :-)

Debbie H said...

Shoka, I went to the Katie Couric site and it looks like it is pretaped because it said "airing" Wednesday blah blah blah about reality television...That must have been the "exciting" thing Kate was referring to the other day...figured it would have to be something with getting her butt on a TV camera again...Anyway, I read the comments posted already and ALL negative begging her to PLEASE reconsider having her on the show...SO..my feeling is it was taped and probably a little puff piece to once again allow Kate to feel like a celebrity and beg for another TV show or use it for a forum to criticize somebody...Let's see what happens with THIS TRUE book out and see how anxious she is to spew lies that might just come back to bite her in the hiney....I would imagine any lawyer would tell her to keep her mouth shut about something as serious as child abuse allegations...ESPECIALLY when she is totally guilty...

Taming Of The Shrew said...

This is NOT a rehashing of everything that has been rumored or reported before. It consists mostly of her e-mails and journals, IN HER OWN WORDS! It's absolutely appalling...the greed, narcissism, child abuse, lies. Not even those who have been following this saga from the beginning had any idea of the extent of this woman's mental issues, that she was NOT infertile (abortion at age 17), that she was happy as a clam when she found out another woman (possible competition for a show) had a problem with not enough eggs, and her relationship with production.

It absolutely is worth reading. I thought it was just going to be a book of conjectures and rumors, but it most certainly is not. The journals were her own. She wrote them and then threw them away.

Sharla said...

The book looks like it's suspended.

jen said...

Aw, I wanted to read it and it does appear to be suspended :-(

Skywatcher said...

Oh Crap! I knew I shouldn't have waited to get this e-book. Now it has been suspended?! UGH! Can ebooks 'share' as in forwarding emails? I wanted to get and read this book, but now there seems to be a bump in the road. Hope it is only temporary, as Kate needs to go down like Titanic!

Shoka's Understudy said...

Maybe this is only a temporary setback.

I went to Amazon this afternoon and looked inside and read a lot of the book.

Went to Amazon and they took it down.

Just went to the book blog and Amazon wrote Robert that they recieved info from a third party that it was not authorized.

How about an unauthorized biography?

Hasn't Kitty Kelly been writing them for years?

All of the paperwork was from kates own words in her journals and emails and if she threw them in the trash, it is fair game.
Maybe she should of grifted a paper shredder.

The best thing is the cat's been let out of the bag.

Debbie H said...

Skywatcher...Doesn't matter now...Those secrets are OUT there and enough people know to keep them going...So wonder what the "trade" secrets from TLC are being told? How it was in fact scripted and rehearsed? Hmm...So maybe Mr. Hoffman can just start selling individual copies to people on his own if Amazon won't carry it...Publish your address Mr Hoffman and I will send you a check....So Kate might have got it stopped at Amazon but she didn't keep it from getting out there...We know ALL your stuff now Bitch...

caryl said...

Other sites need to stop calling what Kate does to those children spanking. It humanizes what is BEATING and child abuse, physically, mentally, and emotionally. How anyone could watch the show and not realize this is a disturbed woman and that the children are miserable and terrified of her is beyond me. I downloaded the book and have read most of it. It is so beyond even my worst fears. Robert Hoffman is a modern day hero to pay the price he will almost certainly pay to bring this abuse to the light of day, and he has proof of everything with her emails, journals, contracts, and correspondence that she very stupidly (surprise) left on the hard drive of a discarded computer. I hope there is a way to get this book back on amazon. The world needs to hear this information.

avidreader said...

you know, he could also open a website and charge a "membership" as in the cost of the book and just type the manuscript out and have anyone who "bought" the book read it on a password protected website. I read an unauthorized book in its entirity by the kardashian nanny that way, on a website, that site had no fee but he could charge the fee of the book to read it that way no one could shut him down. Im so glad I bought the book when it first came out, I had a strong feeling it was going to get pulled from Amazon.

Debbie H said...

caryl...I agree Robert Hoffman is a hero...He has a place to donate to his legal fund...If anyone has extra money to help him, I think it would be a great thing to do...I also hope there is another way he can get the book out without Amazon...How much would it be to print copies and sell them online? It might be more expensive but he could charge what he needed...I would pay what his price was for sure...And maybe we could order them from his website??

Reading news said...

I have always been surprised that she vehemently denied having breast implants when anyone looking at her could see that she had undegone a "change". What was in Mr. Hoffman's book about that situation?

HEFFNER ROAD said...

WOW...TWO I.E. POWERFUL LAW FIRMS INVOLVED....NOTE....AM SURE THE KATIE WILL SUE....STAY TUNED

By David Perel - Executive Vice President/Managing Editor Radar

Amazon has removed from sale a shockingly vitriolic book about Kate Gosselin after legal intervention by two top law firms, RadarOnline.com is reporting exclusively.

Kate Gosselin: How She Fooled The World, an e-book written by Jon Gosselin’s pal Robert Hoffman called Kate “sick” and in desperate need of mental help as Radar reported exclusively.

PHOTOS: Kate Gosselin Through The Years

The book featured allegations so potentially libelous that they cannot be repeated here as they lack adequate substantiation.

Now after only approximately two days on sale, Hoffman’s book is gone, removed by Amazon after the intervention of lawyers from Los Angeles powerhouse firm Lavely & Singer and Washington, D.C.’s respected Williams & Connolly.

PHOTOS: Kate Gosselin & Her Kids Get Ice Cream

Much of Hoffman’s information came from computer hard drives that he claimed he found in Kate’s trash. The book was filled with what appeared to be emails from Kate, the Discovery network, contracts and personal documents, many of which he reproduced in their entirety.

Hoffman described his ongoing friendship with Kate’s ex husband Jon early in the book and bragged he was in possession of 5,000 family photos, personal documents, tax and business records plus contracts from his trash-diving computer find.

PHOTOS: Kate Gosselin Goes For a Run

"I’ll be sued by one or more parties before this is over,” he wrote in a prediction that hardly elevated him into the class of clairvoyant because of his charges against Kate, some of which appeared to have little or no substantiation.

While the book repeats many well-known anti-Kate stories including her endless quest for freebies, her often nasty disposition and more, Hoffman’s tome is filled with personal attacks that even the large anti-Kate audience may find excessive.

PHOTOS: Kate Gosselin’s 10 Sexiest Bikini Looks!

We're told Amazon notified Hoffman that it removed the book – pending further investigation -- after receiving notice that it “may not be properly authorized by the appropriate rights holder.” That notice of infringement came from Lavely & Singer.

Williams & Connolly, representing Discovery Communications, Inc. also apparently sent Hoffman a legal letter informing him that his book contained confidential information protected by law and demanding he “cease and desist from dissemination” of that information.

PHOTOS: Kate Gosselin Derby Looks

Hoffman followed Kate daily as a freelance reporter for Us Weekly during the height of TLC’s Jon & Kate Plus 8 popularity. In the endless Jon vs. Kate debate he has found some supporters for his book and is now asking online for donations, thanking people who have allegedly offered to help him financially and writing: “I’m overwhelmed and at a loss for words.”

Hoffman posted the notice from Amazon and also the legal letter from Williams & Connolly.

PHOTOS: Kate Gosselin: Keeping Up With The Kids

It is not yet clear if Kate or her former network will sue Hoffman. And while he describes himself as Jon’s friend, he gives no indication what Jon thinks of the “book” and why Jon stood by while Kate allegedly committed acts that cannot be republished here.

Jon has not responded to Radar’s requests for comment.

HEFFNER ROAD said...

CHECK THIS OUT


Al Walentis · SubscribeSubscribed · Reading, Pennsylvania
I once was working on a Gosselin book with Robert Hoffman. Here's my take: https://al-walentis.squarespace.com/2012/9/30/biggest-first-amendment-battle-since-the-pentagon-papers-amazon-pulls-the-plug-on-nasty-kate-gosselin-book.

SuzieO said...

is there a reason why the book can't be copied and pasted here one chapter at a time? What I would like to know is this: was there any new information at all or was it stuff we knew all along but now there is proof? I had a feeling all along that it would be the later.

A couple of months ago I spent a few hours viewing the older J & K episodes on youtube and in one episode where they go to a theme park and the kids are in the strollers, Jon yells at Alexis for licking the hand sanitizer off her hands and then a moment later Kate bends over and suddenly Alexis is screaming and rubbing her arm. I rewound and played in slow motion and it was obvious the film had been cut right where Kate had hit Alexis. In another early episode (I wish I had written down which one) they are talking about how much work it is to film these episodes and Jon says: yeah, it is a lot of work because believe me, if it were just our everyday lives being filmed, nobody would want to watch that!! So the info is out there anyway to some extent but did anyone learn anything NEW??

caryl said...

Time to man up, Jon, and speak out. This is your chance to finally protect your children. I've read that child abuse would present an exception to a confidentiality agreement. They can't sue everyone, and a public trial where it all comes out should be the last thing they want.

babeeberry said...

Wait, the book isn't avaiable now? I downloaded it yesterday and have been reading it all weekend.It makes me sick the way she begged and lied to the American public. The emails are all in her language, tons of exclamation marks and AWESOMES. She freely writes about abusing the boys and even says she scares herself at times b/c her temper is so bad. She is a vile woman and this is just proof b/c it's in her own words. If there is a way I can share books on Kindle I would gladly do so I just have no idea how. If someone could email me as to how to do it I'll share my book with anyone.

SuzieO said...

Wow! Read the comments at this site and you will be blown away at how people defend Kate and spanking in general.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/09/kate-gosselin-spanks-children-spoon-claims-photo

Shoka's Understudy said...

When I read some of the book uyesterday afternoon, I would skip over a lot of it because it was making me sick.

I was just feeling sick for the kids and how she treated them.

I agree the word spanking seems like a swat on the bottom.

BEATING is the word they need to use. In kates own words. I really thought I could injury them today and today would of been the day.

When you pick up your 2 yr. old baby by the hair of the head and throw him in his crib and BEAT HIM WITH THE SPOON, you need to be put in jail for child abuse.

If kate said about Kevin and Jodi, can we sue? Can you imagine how she treated and threatened people that had signed the NDC's?

They must of signed them for life.

Sharla said...

Yes, there is a very good reason that the book can not be posted here. It's called copyright infringement. We have no legal rights to the book. Those reside with Mr. Hoffman (presumably). It seems Kate and her lawyers may be disputing his rights to some of the material.

caryl said...

reading news--There was documentation of some breast surgery. I can't remember if it was implants or a lift, but she had work done on them. There were lots of things I hadn't heard before--that she had an abortion at 17, statements in her journal that she was physically abused by her father. The big surprise to me (I pretty much knew she hit her children with the spoon from past stories that came out, then were hushed up) was how often it happened-daily and sometimes a few times daily--, and how she got enraged for the most minor of things--potty training accidents, climbing out of the crib, messing things up. In one entry, she writes she beat Collin three times almost in a row and admitted she was afraid she was going to injure her children. She said when she "lost it", she was glad when she could get them out of her sight where they'd be safe from her. She makes Joan Crawford look like Mother Teresa.

caryl said...

The Pennsylvania Code requires mandatory reporting of child abuse. Kate's actions fit the Pennsylvania definition of child abuse. Looks like some people--maybe the ones who put profits over protecting these children-- have some 'splainin to do.

21.502. Suspected child abuse—mandated reporting requirements.
(a) General rule. Under 23 Pa.C.S. § 6311 (relating to persons required to report suspected child abuse), RNs, LPNs or CRNPs who, in the course of their employment, occupation or practice of their profession, come into contact with children shall report or cause a report to be made to the Department of Public Welfare when they have reasonable cause to suspect on the basis of their professional or other training or experience, that a child coming before them in their professional or official capacity is a victim of child abuse.

(b) Staff members of public or private agencies, institutions and facilities. RNs, LPNs and CRNPs who are staff members of a medical or other public or private institution, school, facility or agency, and who, in the course of their employment, occupation or practice of their profession, come into contact with children shall immediately notify the person in charge of the institution, school, facility or agency or the designated agent of the person in charge when they have reasonable cause to suspect on the basis of their professional or other training or experience, that a child coming before them in their professional or official capacity is a victim of child abuse. Upon notification by the RN, LPN or CRNP, the person in charge or the designated agent shall assume the responsibility and have the legal obligation to report or cause a report to be made in accordance with subsections (a), (c) and (d).

www.pacode.com

ManicNarcissism said...

I read the sample and needed to wait until paycheck to buy the book. Can't believe I missed it. Been lurking lately. I still hope one day she will be revealed for what she is. The first 9 chapters in the sample were for the most part stuff GWOPERS new.

ManicNarcissism

Pony said...

Re: non-reported child abuse by the people involved in filming the show - as far as I can tell, no one involved with the show was a mandatory reporter. None of them were teachers, nurses, doctors, scout leaders, coaches, or religious leaders. So - no mandatory reporting for them. Also, even if someone believes that child abuse is occurring because a child has been "spanked" with a spoon, or whatever, if there is no physical evidence of abuse, i.e. bruises, cuts, burns, or broken bones, it's pretty much impossible to prove. Corporal pubnishment by a parent is not against the law, and in most states if the punishment doesn't result in a mark, it's not considered child abuse, regardless of what anyone thinks.

As for why Jon didn't stop her from using the spoon, given his lack of ability to stand up to her and win when it came to ending the show, I doubt he could stop her from using the spoon.

Also - Kindle users who purchased the book, be sure and keep wi-fi disabled on your Kindles, or Amazon will suck the book right off it if they have suspended it.

Debbie H said...

Well, whether the book sees the light of day again or not, the dirt is out of the bag and on the floor for all to step in now...We know what she said and what she did and how bad she really was...I see NOTHING sympathetic about HER...I will save my sympathy for the KIDS if that's just the same with you...And believe you ME...The day will come when THEY will tell their story...Let's see TLC try to sue THEM...So TLC you might as well get used to it being public knowledge anyway...Unless you were able to get 2 years olds to sign your nondisclosure forms:D

Debbie H said...


Check it out...She even plagiarized the TITLE of her book...LOL..Not an original thought in that ugly nasty gum smacking head of hers....


http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/

caryl said...

Pony--The law is always open to interpretation. "Private agency" could be interpreted in the broadest sense, i.e., "a business or service authorized to act for others". Part A of the law specifies medical professions, but Part B describes others also required to report, but does not list specific professions. Also, the Pennsylvania Code's definition of child abuse does not require physical marks at all to prove child abuse; it can be mental, psychological, or emotional abuse.
It would take a judge to decide the scope of the law, but I would not discount it if I were coming up against Kate's enablers.

avidreader said...

I just read the chapter about leah cutting her head and that witch not taking her to get stitches. It makes me sick. I can't for one second believe that cps is not investigating her on that one incident alone. This book gets uglier by the minute. Why isn't someone doing something for the sake of those poor kids?

realtimemom said...

Good morning! I have the book and the reading has been eye opening in such a big way. First most everything everyone already posted about it is true. These journal entries were all written by Kate. She REALLY is worse than you would believe. She admits to going overboard when she beats the children. She actually was hitting them "as hard as i could" this was a group of 2 year olds! Her fuse is non existent, and she ademits to truely being afraid of seriously hurting one of her children.

What a hateful, greedy woman! For the posters who wondered if she claimed her freebies on her taxes? she's got that covered! They received $30,000 of free furniture from Lane furniture. It was in the contract that they would be compensated for the taxes they would have to be responsible for! So yes, they were additionally paid for whatever taxes owed for receiving the free furniture!

Four people from her immediate family that were interviewed, said she was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, and refuses to take any medication for it.

We can't print the book here, but If anyone knows how to share books on kindle, I'm happy to share mine.

Techymum said...

I did purchase the book, have not read it all. Much of it we already have read through GWOP.

One thing that popped out, in the contract it addresses family members being sick, and their obligation to work. They had a limit on how many days they could be sick. To me, this explained seeing the kids while they were sick and should have been in bed rather than being working.

I am very suspect that this stuff was thrown in the garbage. Not sure what to think of how it was obtained. But it certainly brings out exactly what we all thought on this board.

NotaKateFan said...

I just finished reading the book this morning. It really did not provide any new "themes" that we have not hashed out here on this blog. Kate is a bad mom. Kate was a bad wife. Kate only cares about herself. Kate is obsessed with fame. Kate is a habitual liar. Etc. We knew that stuff already, right?

What this book does provide is evidence from her own diaries and her own computer hard drives (Jon must have been involved in feeding this info to Mr. Hoffman, you don't throw your diaries and hard drives away in the trash!) and we can see some of the things that we have suspected here in Kate's own words. THAT must be why she is so adamant about getting this book out of circulation. Mr. Hoffman could have used an editor as this book was so poorly written and he repeats himself ad nauseum (how many times do we need to hear that she parks facing the wrong way in front of the UPS store in a fire lane?) so it takes away from the greater story of Kate's flaws. However, there's no getting around the fact that Kate beat her toddlers, Kate lies in her tweets, Kate actively tried to conceive higher order multiples, Kate's marriage was over WAY before we could have known and she would have kept the charade up if it had not been for the tabloid pics, etc. Very shameful stuff in the book, no wonder she's climbing the walls to get it out of the hands of everyone. She even wanted to sue her own family members??? Wow, just wow!

Kate still disgusts me said...

Radaronline reports Hoffman went to CPS in 2010 with the allegations from the stuff now in his book. Apparently they didn't find sufficient abuse then to warrant any major action. This poorly written rehash hasn't sat well with me and seemed rather vindictive at this point when Kate was all but completely forgotten. That makes it seem more like a vendetta.

Debbie H said...

Avidreader...PLEASE share with us what you read...So sad I didn't get a chance to buy it but I was afraid without having Kendell I wouldn't be able to read it:(..The only way the story will get out now that it's pulled is people like you telling it and people like us repeating it over and over til everyone "gets it"...Thanks!

Bev1212 said...

Did it say in the book what happened that she and Beth are no longer friends? We have not heard the story on that here yet.

NotaKateFan said...

"This poorly written rehash hasn't sat well with me and seemed rather vindictive at this point when Kate was all but completely forgotten. That makes it seem more like a vendetta."

I agree with this, it did seem like he held a grudge; however, since he appears to have gotten close to Jon (maybe in a deceptive way but still, he knew Jon pretty well), I wonder if some of this stuff was "backed" by Jon somehow. Jon can't write a book, he's under a gag order apparently but this supposed outsider is able to write a book without violating a TLC-backed gag order at least. Obviously with the book being pulled, there are other potential legal issues that are ongoing though.

One thing that rubbed me the wrong way was Mr. Hoffman's stance on infertility. He kept saying that since Kate had a few failed cycles in there while TTC her kids (both sets), that maybe it was a sign from God that she shouldn't be a mother. I am the mom of 3 IVF kids, that comment just did not sit right with me. Who is Mr. Hoffman to judge in that regard? He also had his terminology all screwed up when he talked about multiple HCG shots to stimulate her ovaries at the beginning of her cycle - here's a tidbit dude, HCG is used right before retrieval in IVF (or the actual IUI procedure in Kate's case) and is not given for several weeks in a row. One juicy piece of gossip from his book is that Kate took the doctor-administered HCG shot mid-cycle before her IUI (as any patient would) and then came home to administer another HCG shot on her own. He claims that is why she had ovarian hyperstimulation, which could totally be the truth. If Kate administered a second HCG shot without her doctor knowing it though, it can totally support the notion that she WANTED higher order multiples and worked actively to achieve that goal against doctor's wishes. Interesting.

NotaKateFan said...

Regarding the question on Beth -

The book indicates that it was the Multiple Blessings book that drove them apart. First, it was Kate who insisted on adding Jon as an author, which meant that the 50/50 split of profits between Kate and Beth now became 33 1/3 percent for each of them instead (with 2/3 going to J&K instead of half.) Then, Beth wanted to go on the book tour and enjoy some of the glory of writing a book and Kate would not allow her to go; Kate said that it was her life, her book tour. Finally, similar to Aunt Jodi, TLC wanted to compensate Beth for the time spent filming at her house and Kate said no way. Beth didn't need the money but was hurt that Kate would be so stubborn and mean when they were supposed to be friends. Mr. Hoffman was apparently at the grocery store several years later when both Beth and Kate were there, separately but at the smae time. He said they didn't even acknowledge each other at all. Nice.

WishICouldHaveReadIt said...

What did the book say about her abortion at 17?

Harvest Moon said...

This poorly written rehash hasn't sat well with me and seemed rather vindictive at this point when Kate was all but completely forgotten.

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Child abuse should never be forgotten. No matter what the motive, the fact is that Kate, in her own words, detailed her anger at the children and prayed that she learn to control that anger because she was afraid of hurting her children.

If this is continuing, the woman needs serious therapy with her mental issues before something tragic happens.

Debbie H said...

"One thing that rubbed me the wrong way was Mr. Hoffman's stance on infertility. He kept saying that since Kate had a few failed cycles in there while TTC her kids (both sets), that maybe it was a sign from God that she shouldn't be a mother."

I doubt he, being a man, even thought twice about that comment affecting any other woman..He just had Kate and her angle on his mind...I bet he would apologize to you if he thought he offended you. He seems to be a decent man from what I have seen of him...

Maria Mulero said...

Her father forced her to have an abortion. Not PSOS! She had a very abusive childhood (translation: very very over disciplined) Her father was very abusive due to her rebellious nature (Collin/Mady anyone?). She was permiscuous apparently because a "relative" sexually abused her. The falling out with her father was because a collection was made for her family and he never gave her the money, not about the new clothes and matching cribs. Her father was not a very honorable man even though he was a pastor.
Her plan was to become a nurse so that she could meet a rich dr. and never have to work. She apparently threw herself at each and every one with no takers. She then settled for gullible country boys with money and corvettes. She had no sense of loyalty and was always looking for the next best thing. Cheated on them. She only had eyes for Jon when she found out that he was from the right side of the tracks (Dr.'s son). Jon's father paid for everything, the wedding, house, bills and a fat check every month.
She used her nursing background to become an expert on all things related to infertility. She was definately hoping to get pregnant with a high order of multiples so that she could become rich/famous. Idolized the MacCaulaughs. Their lives parallel in so many ways due to her obsession with them.
The book is facinating, disgusting and unbelievable all at the same time. The book is the equivalent of 800 pgs. so I am skipping around to the best parts, but want to go back and ready from beginning to end. I have been unable to stop reading it every opportunity I get. A fair amount of typos and misspellings, but if you can get through that and the redundancy, it is a good read. Some rehash of the stuff gosselin followers were in the know, but a lot of very scathing new revelations. Her greed was beyond disgusting. Lots of detailed information on the TLC contracts, negotiations, renegotiations, etc. They made the most money in Season 4 with close to $2M for the 45+ episodes made. She only would let TLC film if there was a freebie involved.
She is a user and only has use for you if you can give her something in return whether that's manual labor, writing her life story, babysitting, you name it. If not you are banished like trash. Poor Beth, Jodi, Ashley, etc.

I always hated this women and could not believe she had so many people who liked her at first. This will be the nail in the coffin for her. She deserves all the bad stuff that is coming her way. She fought hard for the book not to be released, but damage has been done now. I hope she loses her kids, money, everything.

More to come...

Socorro

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