Free Discussion February 2012

Please use this post for discussion about the Gosselins that doesn't have a better spot elsewhere. Also please remember that while Gosselin discussion is fading (which is a good thing), this blog is for Gosselins only. We will continue as long as Kate is seeking public attention for those who wish to comment.

75 comments:

PA Woman said...

Debbie H said...(from Jan thread)
Just stringing...Do you really think Kate has to worry about obsessed fans to the point of actually NEEDING a bodyguard???I would say her bigger worry about now should be having any fans left at all...lol..I mean, she doesn't have him with her when she runs to Target and the Dentist...And she manages to make it back OK...I think she likes to think she needs a bodyguard because it makes her feel important...
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Steve is her handler, he keeps her from making a fool of herself at public events (or at least attempts to do that).

Growing Teens Require More Flexibility said...

Her boys are still small, although their appetites are bigger and bigger as they grow, but her buying a half a cow, etc., when she does not use much meat does not make sense financially.

She could save on the paper plates/napkins/cups and revert to dishes/cloth napkins and glasses. She must run the dish washer, right?

As for Zip Loc bags, I found that if you turn them inside out and spray with Clorox spray and put them in the dish washer, set on a large spoon, etc., you have a clean bag for further use. Also a good set of load n loc is better than constant use of ziplocs or that type Katie uses. I fill zip locks with soup,chili/stews, after it has cooled

I have 4 teens now and a husband. My 2 teen boys and husband can eat quite a bit, but the girls and myself are normal to lite eaters.

If I make a large chicken meal, I then divide into smaller zip locks per child and husband and myself.

We do not eat at the same time, but everyone gets a hot cooked meal, no need to "stop at fast food restaurants".I do the same with meat meals (roasts) and batches of Crock pot cooking.

there is little to no way as the boys and girls get older that they will eat the same thing at the same time.

So one or two days a month of cooking large quantities and pre bagging gives the family the food they want as they come home at all different times after school activities.

Use your own ingenuity according to your families needs, we are all different as the kids get older.

Also, looked at those shoes she wore to The Grove in LA? She has worn and worn them forever, I saw a bunch of photos on one of the web sites and she has worn them down, the soles & her toes hang out.

The current heels are made with a platform for the sole, so you do not go head over your feet, while walking and Kate has not been given any of the current style? Just saw some at Payless for $19.99 look like Loubitons (sp) even a red bottom, how about that?

Steve is in business to make $$ only said...

We do not think she and Steve have anything going on ANY LONGER.

He certainly was a love of her life for quite a while though but now he
just accompanies her to "guide her" and not allow her enemies to pounce on her. Not as though fans are out to see her, not anymore.

Doubt he lives there, he has to make a living.He is still with his wife and children in MD.

She is lonely, very lonely for male company.

She always asks for Steve though when she has been offered other persons to accompany her on trips but declines claiming Steve knows everything about her and she doesn't want to worry.

Just Stringing Along said...

Just stringing...Do you really think Kate has to worry about obsessed fans to the point of actually NEEDING a bodyguard???I would say her bigger worry about now should be having any fans left at all...lol..

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Do you read Twitter? Yes, there are obsessed fans who, if ignored or shunned, could go off and do something dangerous. It's happened to several celebrities who never expected it. Some of their tweets have progressed from needy to demanding to insane.

Steve also protects the public from Kate. I don't believe that she could control herself when being confronted by someone who dared criticize her.

Debbie H said...

Just stringing...Ok..if you really think she needs a bodyguard based on the fact that people don't like her, then that's how you feel...I think most of the dislike stems from how she treats her kids...Those kind of people don't actually HURT people in a way you are implying...I have never thought she was in danger from anything more than being "annoyed" by one of her few fans or having her picture taken without her consent..Oh lordy bee, if that happens..lol..so please share with us the incidents over the past several years when someone in her presence actually "threatened" bodily harm to her to the point the bodyguard "saved" her...I have wracked my little ole brain here and can't think of anything...You know, sticks and stones and all that...You don't NEED a bodyguard because someone said something nasty to you on Twitter..

I'm Still Standing said...

I have 4 teens now and a husband. My 2 teen boys and husband can eat quite a bit, but the girls and myself are normal to lite eaters.

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It's a challenge having four teens! On one of the other threads, you said that you have a first grade boy. I would imagine since he is in the same grade as the Gosselins, then you should have a good sense as to how much a boy eats at that age.

"Her boys are still small, although their appetites are bigger and bigger as they grow, but her buying a half a cow, etc., when she does not use much meat does not make sense financially."
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I believe that she said that she uses all of the meat in her homemade soups - vegetable beef and chili. That makes sense financially, rather than going to the store and buying beef individually weighed and packaged.

Just Stringing Along said...

Debbie H said...

Just stringing...Ok..if you really think she needs a bodyguard based on the fact that people don't like her, then that's how you feel...

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I believe that you read my comment incorrectly. I never said that I think she needs a bodyguard because people don't like her. Just the opposite. Historically, it has been the obsessed fans that are likely to be dangerous stalkers. Do I think that she needs a bodyguard? Not really. I think that his main job is keeping her away from the public so she doesn't make a fool of herself or go off on someone.

"so please share with us the incidents over the past several years when someone in her presence actually "threatened" bodily harm to her to the point the bodyguard "saved" her"

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Again, please read my comment. It's not the haters who are likely to be a threat. Take a look at major celebrities in the past who have been hurt, threatened or killed by fans. There's a long list of them. Stalking and obsession is a dangerous thing, and there are fans who, when ignored, take drastic measures.

Berks Has Shoes! said...

Steve in business said,

We do not think she and Steve have anything going on ANY LONGER.

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Who is "we?"

"He is still with his wife and children in MD...She always asks for Steve though when she has been offered other persons to accompany her on trips but declines claiming Steve knows everything about her and she doesn't want to worry."

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Source? Does this come from an insider, or is it speculation?

marce said...

Kate dos not need a bodyguard when she is on her own property, If he is there for her protection in pubic places , then he is doing a lousy job, because there are numerous photo's of him, not even near her in public places, or hold the kids hands, or her bag.... Waking thru an airport, not near her, i wouldn't pay him to be my bodyguard..
I have seen many pictures of her around her town doing errands, without a bodyguard.. Isn't she afraid then, or is it that, people in her town don't give a crap about her, they know the truth about her ,she already made a fool of herself, and lost thier respect , and having a bodyguard there isn't impressing anybody...

seacitygirl said...

MSN has a photo on their home page of Kate's old hairdo under "20 beauty bombs we would rather forget". They call it the reverse mullet.

Heffner Rd fm florida said...

Marce...

You hit it on the head. Noone like her.....

Mutiny on the High Seas said...

Marce said: Kate dos not need a bodyguard when she is on her own property, If he is there for her protection in pubic places , then he is doing a lousy job, because there are numerous photo's of him, not even near her in public places, or hold the kids hands, or her bag

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He's not her bodyguard, and she hasn't said that he is. She said he's her manager. What he manages, I have no idea. "Handler" would be a more accurate job description.

Steve $$$ said: He certainly was a love of her life for quite a while though but now he
just accompanies her to "guide her" and not allow her enemies to pounce on her.

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How could you know this unless you had personal connections with the family? If you do, I'm sure that there are quite a few people who would love to know the "real" relationship between the two. When did he stop being the love of her life - and why?

Katherine said...

Oh my, don't we, most of us anyhow, feel that she has Steve so she does not have to travel alone? After all, he gets into all the photos, which certainly gives him more photos "of celebrities" to put in his
web site?

Manager? He could manager her one hour a week and still work as a security guard for other people.

I mean, how many venues have we seen her at lately? The marathon, although I still have not seen one pic of her running..none, has anyone else? Then there was The Grove and Dr. Drew (same day I think as she had that dress and the worn down shoes on) and what else? Coupon cabin photo?

Honestly, I can see her disappearing and Steve may be trying to keep her in the limelight, but it gets harder and harder unless she uses the kids to do something to gain attention like
"did she know that one of her children was not in the van" and she ended up on all the internet sites? Bad new or good news as long as she gets news is how she seems to look at things.

Just an Opinion said...

I would agree with that statement that "he isn't the love of her life anymore" because she was so infatuated, I think, after living in that house with the babies, John and the "romance" in their marriage..not knowing anything, but along comes the TLC gang and the bodyguard with the accent, the silver hair and I'll bet that she just fell in love with him and remember John said on Larry King, "I stayed home and she and Steve travelled together" all of a sudden, Kate is looking pretty good then, no reverse mullet, etc., and with some class that she could confuse people into thinking she could have those babies, lose the weight and she looked good. She has some class to her.

Whoever thought that K8 needed her screaming, yelling, in a bikini as much as possible and I don't know if it was Steve, but she dug herself a real grave with that "whole persona"........just my opinion.

I think he got tired of her "moaning and complaining" because that is all she does on every interview and he DID NOT WANT 8 KIDS with all kinds of problems and more problems to come. I mean really, he tried, I think, but he can't do it, home to "honey and the kids" and peace in his life plus he works with other people and gets to travel first class with business people, etc.

Just my opinion, not many men take on a woman who is so needy with 8 kids, not at all. She is very high maintenance, very high maintenance.

That New York birthday celebration showed that when she wouldn't say hello to a guy checking her I.D., at a nice club. Like who did she think she was? A Movie Star? Yep, she did, she thought more of herself that anyone else did and TLC proved that when they fired her butt.

Just an Opinion said...

Oh yeah, one more thing, I think at the beginning of Kate's relationship with Steve, she was like a puppy looking for a pat on the Head(?) and then after some notoriety, well she became too overwhelming and demanding, like she was with John and that was the beginning of a turn off.

So, now I do think she is lonely, as he is not around 24/7, not at all.

Okay, just an opinion.

Debbie H said...

Stringing along...I just don't consider Kate a "major" celebrity or even celebrity at all now...I have seen people put her down and say horrible things...but that, in my opinion, doesn't warrant a "bodyguard"...I mean, if she thought she was really in danger, wouldn't she have a bodyguard on her little trips to the dentist, Target, etc???She does NOT...so if she doesn't feel she needs one then, neither do I...She just wants to feel like a star and important...The kind of incidents you talk about are so rare...usually when someone has a "romantic" infatuation with a star and they are already psychotic to begin with...And psychotic stalkers are smart enough NOT to post bad things on a twitter page in public where they can be traced...If they were making threats, they would be arrested already...So in my humble opinion, she may need an extra set of hands when traveling, but she ain't a star and she ain't the President..lol..She is just Katie Irene...girl from the trailer park...Jon wasn't liked in the "day" either, but I don't think I remember him "needing" a bodyguard all the time..She just thinks that's what she's "supposed" to have because she is so "important"...

Heffner Rd from Florida said...

My question is... how much does she pay Steve? When he was working for TLC, it was reported it was getting $1,000/per day....

Ladybug said...

You know, Kate has always gone on and on about her beloved "coffeemate" creamer. Really?? She is supposedly so healthy and organic. The ingredients on coffeemate are anything but natural. Strange.

Elvira said...

I feel obliged to point out that Kate did not grow up in a trailer park. We don't need to perpetuate that particular error.

tiffches said...

I think Jon was her "trying to make it fling" She realized marriage was too confining so she asked for and got a divorce. Then Steve was her "legend in her own mind fling" then he realized what was underneath the makeup. Now she is looking for her "falling down fling" but she wants someone rich enough to keep her in the lifestyle she has now. She grew up upper middle class but wants the world to think she grew up poor. She thought she would be desirable like Elizabeth Taylor. She finally realized on her best day with Elizabeth on her worst day, Elizabeth was prettier. Liz Taylor lived a wild life but she fell in love with everyone she married. She never had to marry for money, because she had money and shared it. Plus, nobody could fake Liz's violet eyes. She thought she could carry herself like Grace Kelly. But she failed to realize, she did not have the elegance of Grace Kelly. Being Kate was not good enough. Being her parent's child was not good enough. She was embarrassed by her family and by Jon. The public saw the closeness of Jon to the children. We also saw her show only coldness to the kids, except for Hannah. She thought to make her look good, she had to make Jon look bad. Jon did not help much, but he never mistreated the kids. She did. Her lack of beauty (inside and out) and her lack of elegance and grace, drives her crazy. She lacks character which makes whatever she does have, unimportant. She does not need a body guard. She needs a truthful friend.

Just A County Mom said...

I feel obliged to point out that Kate did not grow up in a trailer park. We don't need to perpetuate that particular error.

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Thanks for pointing that out. That surfaces every so often and it's just not true. I believe it was perpetuated after the bio story on television, when photos of a trailer park were shown. Producers never bothered to check the accuracy of it.

Steve is not a bodyguard. He is her manager/handler. In a very early interview, he said that she has obsessed fans (one who followed her around to book signings, dressed like her, copied her hairstyle) and that is why he was hired, not because of the "haters."

Just Stringing Along said...

The kind of incidents you talk about are so rare..

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Not as rare as one might think. I had an experience with an obsessed fan when I was with a well-known person. Others who have been stalked, some who met with tragic ends are:

Rebecca Schaeffer, John Lennon, Selena, Jodie Foster, Hallie Berry, Gwyneth Paltrow, Michael Douglas, Shania Twain, Rose McGowen, Leonardo DiCaprio, Jennifer Love Hewitt, Jewel, Conan O'Brien, Paula Abdul,Sheryl Crow, Jodie Foster, Jennifer Aniston, David Letterman, the list goes on and on. If you do an internet search, you can see that most of these were stalked by fans who wanted to be with these people and were ignored. Kate just might anger the wrong person - some of her fans are very obsessed with her. It can happen with major celebrities, and it can happen with some who are not so well known.

In fact, I just read where Taylor Armstrong is scheduled to be at a book signing in New Jersey this weekend and security will be increased because of a stalker threat. They caught the person, but still, you never know.

ronlee said...

I believe her parents do or did own a trailer park.

Elvira said...

Kate's parents owned a campground. I think it was mainly used for summer religious retreat kind of things. The document describing the conflict with the county about the campground is available here:
http://statecasefiles.justia.com/documents/pennsylvania/commonwealth-court/339cd02_10-7-02.pdf

This was all thoroughly discussed about four years ago.

Just Down The Road In E-town said...

Kate's parents owned a campground. I think it was mainly used for summer religious retreat kind of things.

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Kate never grew up there or never lived there. It was built as a campground for RVs. Kate lived in the family home that was built on several acres. Her parents owned quite a bit of acreage in the area - built their home there, and then he developed some of the additional acres as a campground. The erroneous information came when the story was aired on television and they included photos of the campground, never explaining that Kate didn't live there. They never showed her family home. From there, the story of Kate being trailer park trash just took off. Kate lived in a nice home on a considerable amount of acreage in a rural community and graduated from a very good private school where she was a cheerleader.

Kate is what she is, but I couldn't blame her for being upset when those stories came out because they just weren't true.

Mom In Lancaster County said...

PA Woman said...Steve is her handler, he keeps her from making a fool of herself at public events (or at least attempts to do that).

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But apparently he doesn't make sure that her mic is off when she says (when told to pose with her fans), "I don't want to."

Debbie H said...

Just stringing along...almost all of the incidents you mentioned actually happened in the home of the celebrity ..I understand the need for security behind your door..even ordinary people need that...however, I have never seen Kate being "mobbed" or whatever in public...which is where she makes sure to be seen with a bodyguard...If she had a stalker, that's one thing...irate people saying mean things to her on Twitter is not a big deal to me...She is a hated woman...but is her life actually in danger??I just don't buy it...but we can differ on that opinion for the next hundred years..lol..I don't have inside info...but I know if I felt my life was in danger, my "bodyguard" would go with me to Target and the UPS store and not just public events...It wouldn't be for "show" the way I feel Kate has used Steve...I will always believe it was just a way to make her feel important and look "star-ish"..

tiffches said...

When Kate wanted money or sympathy from others, she insuated that she grew up poor in a trailer park. Just like when she and Jon went to churches begging for money. When her dad's church donated cribs, clothes, etc, she was mad because they did not match and some items were used. When the church decorated the nursery, she had a right not to like it. But she treated their act of kindness with her useual bad attitude. her parents should have been totally embarrassed to have her as a daughter. And I would have publically denounced her behavior.

Bad Moon Rising said...

"When Kate wanted money or sympathy from others, she insuated that she grew up poor in a trailer park."

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When and where did Kate insinuate that she grew up poor in a trailer park? Do you have links to the articles or interviews?

Katherine said...

I do remember when our Katie was on DWTS, Her partner was so frustrated as Steve was everywhere with them and even though Tony would pose with Kate, Steve would then walk with her and Tony would follow, he was really not treated right. Also It was said, I don't know where, that Katie was not allowed to be approached by any of the other dancers either, Steve kept her in her own trailer until the show was on. Tony was extremely frustruated.

But Kate has to face reality, she cannot speak, question, interview or talk, she really can not. So she is never going to be on a Talk Show, interview show, radio show, she is not very bright and she does not have a personality.

So she tweets that some one said, "my husband said that Kate G is hot" well I feel bad for that woman's who has a husband telling her that and Kate should have told the woman, "they really made me look thinner, nice skin, etc"
to make that woman feel better.

We see Kate at the Bus Stop almost every day and she has rough skin, thin hair and she is not friendly, doesn't talk to us (seen us for a couple of years now) and she does not look like she has a great figure but a stick thin figure and she does look orange, more so in the Spring/Fall, but less in the Winter.

No need for anyone to be jealous of her. I see a blank look on that face when I look at her. I do not see her smiling at her kids. She seems to maybe have a temper and that is what Tony, her dance instructor from DWTS proved also on TV, remember? Her temper "her way"

Soon, she will be gone, I give it less that 6 more months when she cannot book that cruise up to maximum capacity.

PA Woman said...

Debbie H said...
Just stringing...Ok..if you really think she needs a bodyguard based on the fact that people don't like her, then that's how you feel...I think most of the dislike stems from how she treats her kids...Those kind of people don't actually HURT people in a way you are implying...I have never thought she was in danger from anything more than being "annoyed" by one of her few fans or having her picture taken without her consent..Oh lordy bee, if that happens..lol..so please share with us the incidents over the past several years when someone in her presence actually "threatened" bodily harm to her to the point the bodyguard "saved" her...I have wracked my little ole brain here and can't think of anything...You know, sticks and stones and all that...You don't NEED a bodyguard because someone said something nasty to you on Twitter..

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Actually, a friend of mine runs a club that has a lot of comedy and musical acts. For the lesser known performers, traveling with a combination manager/body guard is pretty much the norm. Yeah, the lesser known public figures, don't need a full time body guard (unless there has been a direct threat) but things can happen when you are traveling, and it is not a bad idea to have someone there in case it does. So you combine the manager and body guard role into one person and they take care of everything....from car arrangements to an obsessed fan trying to take one of your extensions or a "hater" throwing a drink in your face. It's pretty much the common protocol these days. This is considered a low-level secuity assignment not a high-level. Now, what I would think is strange is if Steve accompanied her around town when she is at home. That normally isn't done unless there has been a direct threat.

I won't begin to second guess if she NEEDs it or not. Not having a minute by minute account of her previous travels, there is no way to judge. But I can tell you that more lesser know "celebraties" travel this way then don't.

And my guess is Steve has taken on other assignments. I'm sure he is keeping busy between Kate's travel days.

Ella said...

She is a hated woman...but is her life actually in danger??I just don't buy it...but we can differ on that opinion for the next hundred years..lol..I don't have inside info...but I know if I felt my life was in danger, my "bodyguard" would go with me to Target and the UPS store and not just public events...
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The one thing I have never been able to get past with k8 is that if I felt my life was in danger I'd be even more concerned & watchful of my children. There would be no way I could travel, take the bodyguard & leave the kids behind, I don't care how posh the security system on the home I had. If I was concerned enough to have a bodyguard then my children would be watched over as well. It doestn't matter that steve goes everywhere with them on these trips, one bodyguard for 9 people would never sit easy with me if I was mom. People who wish to get at you may not have any qualms about going through your children to do it, you never know who you are dealing with & there are some seriously sick people out there.

Yes she may have had threats, but in part I do believe the whole bodyguard deal is part of k8's ego boost. Look at the woman's life, her house, ego boost. More than one group of mulitples born to her, ego boost. I wouldn't be surprised if Jon was an ego boost at one point, she's a narcissist, everything boils down to her ego.

Debbie H said...

Ella- "I wouldn't be surprised if Jon was an ego boost at one point, she's a narcissist, everything boils down to her ego."

LOL Ella, He WAS an ego boost to Kate at the time they met..Compared to where she came from, this was her big chance to move "up" the social ladder..Jon was the son of a successful dentist(she could refer to her father in law as "DOCTOR" Gosselin)and I'm sure financially, she probably felt like they were rich beyond anyone SHE knew or associated with...Funny, but it's even crossed my mind that she probably went into nursing for the sole reason of snaring a rich doctor...I mean,come on,we all know she doesn't have a nurturing bone in her body...Does anyone here actually believe she was "called" into nursing??LOL...

Debbie H said...

Katherine..

"We see Kate at the Bus Stop almost every day and she has rough skin, thin hair and she is not friendly, doesn't talk to us (seen us for a couple of years now) and she does not look like she has a great figure but a stick thin figure and she does look orange, more so in the Spring/Fall, but less in the Winter."

I have never seen the woman in person and have absolutely NO desire to, however, the way you described her is exactly how I see her in the photos or on the very rare TV show...It's obvious to me..I don't get how it can't be obvious to everyone else...LOL..I bet that woman just SAID her husband said that trying to break the ice with Kate and have something nice to say to her...Poor woman should have known Katie doesn't accept compliments very well...lol..It was such a "problem" to her that she actually had to TWEET for advice on how to DEAL with it...(since it comes up so often)...OMG...

Thinking Thoughts said...

Someone said: The one thing I have never been able to get past with k8 is that if I felt my life was in danger I'd be even more concerned & watchful of my children.

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She says she is concerned about her safety and privacy.

Yet, she dresses her younger kids in matching outfits, as if to say: In case you didn't notice, I have tups!

She dresses in not-so-ordinary outfits and high heels to go to Target.

Toning down the "look at me" appearance would help her concerns.

PA Woman said...

Thinking Thoughts said...
Someone said: The one thing I have never been able to get past with k8 is that if I felt my life was in danger I'd be even more concerned & watchful of my children.

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You all have me curious now. When did Kate say her life was in danger? I don't remember her saying that.

Winter Wonderland said...

thinking thoughts said...

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She says she is concerned about her safety and privacy.

PA Woman asked...

When did Kate say her life was in danger? I don't remember her saying that.

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I was wondering the same thing, too. When did Kate say that she was worried about her safety?

Debbie H said...

PA Woman..I don't know if Kate ever said her life was in danger...she may have or she may not have..the thread came about because someone questioned her "needing" a bodyguard...One poster felt that because of the crazy Twitter fans, her life may well be in danger...I disagreed with her and I guess this is where we have landed..:)Nobody knows for sure if she actually has security issues..I have always felt that she used Steve to look the part of a star...I may have said that if my life WERE in danger, I would use a body guard around town and NOT just at public functions...That's why I DON"T feel there are any "credible" threats on her life...

Thinking Thoughts said...

If you read my original post, I was quoting another poster in the first paragraph. Those were not my words.

To answer your question,though, hiring a body guard implies worry about one's safety.

Thinking Thoughts said...

As for the person who questioned the use of the word, "privacy":

Kate had a blanket hung between the 2 RVs so people would not gawk at her and her family while camping.

She also complained about the papparazi (the P people) following her and the kids. At a tup birthday party, she pointed to a photographer hiding in the distance.

PA Woman said...

Debbie H said...
PA Woman..I don't know if Kate ever said her life was in danger...she may have or she may not have..the thread came about because someone questioned her "needing" a bodyguard...One poster felt that because of the crazy Twitter fans, her life may well be in danger...I disagreed with her and I guess this is where we have landed..:)Nobody knows for sure if she actually has security issues..I have always felt that she used Steve to look the part of a star...I may have said that if my life WERE in danger, I would use a body guard around town and NOT just at public functions...That's why I DON"T feel there are any "credible" threats on her life...

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Oh, ok. Like I said in an earlier post, it's quite common for lower teir performers, etc. to travel with a manager/body guard even local bands do it. The "manager/body guard" does everything from setting up performance dates, setting up the equipment on stage, to keeping people in line at the meet and greets. This is pretty much what Steve does these days so I don't think she is much different then anyone else in a similar "status" position, as far as that goes.

The reason I questioned about the threats to her life is if it is true, she should have a higher level of security. Probably at least 2 full time real body guards. No one person filling multiple roles.

ladybug said...

You know, there's something I don't think Kate understands. That is that we teach our children how to treat us when they are grown by how we treat our parents. We are modeling for them how they should act. I don't know her parents personally, but I am sure that she has been a gigantic humiliation to them. She needs to imagine herself in their shoes and treat them how she wants to be treated someday. Otherwise she is going to be one lonely old woman.

tiffches said...

I have not heard Kate say she thinks her life is in danger, but she leaves a lot of insinuations about things. If the question is brought up to her, she does not deny it. She lets people come to their own conclusion. She has been asked before about how she grew up. A family member of hers was the first to explain their dad owned a trailer park but they lived in a nice home and Kate went to a private school. She talked about her childhood and about being the middle child (I am too) She never said she was mistreated but she didn't deny it either. Kate appears to lie by omission a lot.

Debbie H said...

Ladybug- Rest assured Kate will rue the day she taught her kids that parents don't matter when you grow up..I believe the chickens will come home to roost with Kate and she will be lucky(for MANY reasons) if even ONE of her kids will give her the time of day when they get older...I hope the 15 minutes of fame and the money she threw away is worth it to her...Wouldn't surprise me if they all demand to live with Jon when they get a little bit older...

This is old said...

It was a campground not a trailor park.

Just A Local Parent said...

Tiffches said,

When Kate wanted money or sympathy from others, she insuated that she grew up poor in a trailer park.

Followed by,

A family member of hers was the first to explain their dad owned a trailer park but they lived in a nice home and Kate went to a private school.

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Did Kate insinuate that she grew up in a trailer park. It was a campground for RVs built on 80 some acres of land owned by her parents. If she did insinuate this, where was it? I'm curious because it would seem that she should know where she grew up!

Just A Local Parent said...

If you read my original post, I was quoting another poster in the first paragraph. Those were not my words.

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Thinking Thoughts: That's exactly what PA Woman quoted in her post:

PA Woman said...

Thinking Thoughts said...
Someone said: The one thing I have never been able to get past with k8 is that if I felt my life was in danger I'd be even more concerned & watchful of my children.

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PA Woman commented that Thinking Thoughts said SOMEONE SAID, which means that those are not your words, but you quoted someone else!

It gets confusing sometimes, especially when the quotes are not separated from the comments!

I don't think that Kate still refers to him as a bodyguard. Didn't she say that he was her road manager?

Katherine said...

Me thinks it was Steve on one of the first K8 shows, he was talking, like John and Kate always did at the end of the show, but this time they were in a limo and she had heard about her brother and sister in law filing for something about the kids. Well, she was crying and Steve said something about "are you going to practice dancing or take a nap, as she rubbed the tears from her eyes and she said she would take a nap.

At the end of the show, Steve was on camera and in his very New Zealand accent was explaining that "Kate was a polarizing person, either people loved her or hated her, no in between. He also said that her fans and the Paps do prevent her from walking, leaving buildings and getting in and out of the car. Now most of theat occured when Kate was on DWTS.

Maybe during her first book signings when the line was as Kate would sign "1500 to 2000" books (which was her preference for each signing, remember her saying that) but that was the first book when her life was smoke and mirrors.

If you were afraid in your local shopping center, why in this world would you wear heels instead of sneakers so you could out run someone if she is still in her own mind a celebrity?

Better yet, she could go to Target with a girlfriend but we never hear of her and her girlfriends doing anything. I don't think she has any. Never hear about Ashley and that other one who babysat for Kate from the births do we?

I do expect a book from Ashley one of these days though when someone offers her enough money to tell us about what is really was like with Kate.

Debbie H said...

Just a local parent said

"Did Kate insinuate that she grew up in a trailer park. It was a campground for RVs built on 80 some acres of land owned by her parents. If she did insinuate this, where was it? I'm curious because it would seem that she should know where she grew up!"

I think the poster was saying that Kate would "insinuate"(not directly say)that she grew up in a trailer park to elicit sympathy from people when need be...Of course she knows where she grew up..The poster states that Kate grew up in a nice house BUT would insinuate she lived in the trailer park when it would benefit her..And are there any among us who think Kate is ABOVE stretching the facts???

Tiffches said...

"Kate, who grew up in a trailer park and didn’t go on her first airplane ride until her honeymoon to Disney World"

This was in People magazine in 2009Kate did not deny it so she just let it go. That is why I said she insinuates.

The following was in another magazine/article. I think POV

"She wouldn't be the first poor person to all of sudden have money and feel the need to look the part."

So while she doesn't say it, she doesn't deny it.

We all know she was upper middle class so it is all a lie, maybe by omission, but still a lie. Of course, she didn't write it, so she uses that as her excuse.

Debbie H said...

"I do expect a book from Ashley one of these days though when someone offers her enough money to tell us about what is really was like with Kate."

I am sure she made Ashley and anyone else working for her(and probably friends not EVEN on the payroll) to sign confidentiality agreements...She would be a fool not to have done that...then again???LOL...The book to wait for is the one the 8 kids are going to write when they realize what Mommy Dearest took from them since the day they were born...I will be camping out overnight to buy THAT one...lol

Buy my book$$$$ said...

A book. Yes I too would buy it. Maybe the twins will write one. But Kate could conspire with the twins and Help write the book just so she can get $$$$.
Or she can remarry a millionaire like joy beher suggested to her. Did you notice her eyes lite up as if she was thinking, " that's exactly what I will do!

Nantucket Bound said...

This was in People magazine in 2009Kate did not deny it so she just let it go. That is why I said she insinuates.

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The meaning of insinuate is to suggest or hint in an indirect way. Not denying something is not insinuating something. She neither denied nor confirmed it. She is sneaky that way. She didn't verbally suggest that she grew up in a trailer park, which is why, I believe some posters asked when she had said this.

Legally Blonde said...

Katherine said...
I do expect a book from Ashley one of these days though when someone offers her enough money to tell us about what is really was like with Kate.

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You may be waiting a long time. There is no doubt in my mind that she and anyone else who would have been employed in Kate's household, would have signed a non-disclosure agreement (CA). I would think that it would be a unilateral agreement rather than a mutual agreement. The length of those vary, depending on how the contract is written. Some can expire in a year -- some are valid for life.

Just Sayin' said...

Mutiny on the High Seas said...
Marce said: Kate dos not need a bodyguard when she is on her own property, If he is there for her protection in pubic places , then he is doing a lousy job, because there are numerous photo's of him, not even near her in public places, or hold the kids hands, or her bag

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He's not her bodyguard, and she hasn't said that he is. She said he's her manager.
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But she has.
From People magazine:

"The next story coming out from the animals that stalk us is about our security person and his family," Kate tells PEOPLE exclusively.

Link http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20278340,00.html?cnn=yes

tiffches said...

The meaning of insinuate is to suggest or hint in an indirect way. Not denying something is not insinuating something

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My apologies. You are correct. I can not stand a lie whether it is blatant or by omission. So many people still defend kate by claiming she grew up poor and/or in a trailer park. Most of us know it isn't true. But she uses any excuse, no matter where it comes from, to make herself appear different from the truth. Liars bother me. Omission is a lie. So is knowing a statement is incorrect, but letting it go.

Mutiny on the High Seas said...

He's not her bodyguard, and she hasn't said that he is. She said he's her manager.
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But she has.
From People magazine:

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That was long before the show was cancelled. She did refer to him as security, bodyguard, what have you in the past. After the show was cancelled, she announced that he would stay on as her manager. Bodyguard or security was no longer mentioned; he is her acting manager.

Mary said...

Kate does have a body guard he is a heavy set black man. t=you can see him in a lot of video and photo's I thought he was there for kids but I see just with Kate

Mama Morton said...

Mary said...

Kate does have a body guard he is a heavy set black man. t=you can see him in a lot of video and photo's I thought he was there for kids but I see just with Kate

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Recently? After the show was cancelled? There was one gentleman at the Grove, but it wasn't the same one who was seen in earlier photos.

Katherine said...

Isn't she finished yet? I mean she is out of the press isn't she.

I think we have seen the last of her.

Like A Phoenix said...

Isn't she finished yet? I mean she is out of the press isn't she.

I think we have seen the last of her.

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I wouldn't count on it. We thought it was over when Jon stopped the filming. We thought she was gone when the show was cancelled. She's still plugging away. I think it's going to be quite awhile before she disappears off the radar entirely.

Heffer Road from Florida said...

Correct me if I am wrong...

Way back when the show started on TLC the kids got 13% of the money..That is 1.6% for each kid...

Is that correct?

barbee said...

Actually, she said he was her 'road' manager. Needed for what? She is barely on the road any more and most road managers worked for musicians who were on the road constantly. Maybe she meant it in another context. MY Bad!

Debbie H said...

Someone posted

"I wouldn't count on it. We thought it was over when Jon stopped the filming. We thought she was gone when the show was cancelled. She's still plugging away. I think it's going to be quite awhile before she disappears off the radar entirely."

Well, she has gone the way of Screech(minus the porn)and other now very minor D list barely celebrity register people....I suppose once you are famous, you never really fade into oblivion if you make sure your name gets out constantly...However, without a TV show anywhere on the horizon, she is nobody to the people that she WANTS to be somebody to..:)I guess to the Effies of the world and the little sheeple, she will always be a "big stah", but in reality, she is a fading blip on the radar...Everybody gets that BUT Kate(and Effie..lol)Notice she has not once been asked to guest host on "The Talk" when everybody in the industry almost has been...Julie Chen or someone there must really hate her...Dr. Drew is USED to scraping the bottom of the barrel for his guests...and Kate probably had to even beg him for a spot on there...I will be really surprised if she makes the REAL news for anything short or remarrying Jon...

Shoka's Understudy said...

Just saw the picture of the kid's Valentine's Day breakfast. She really knocked herself out on this.

She had plastic red and pink heart shaped plates and the breakfast consisted of:

1 Tablespoon of eggs on 3 of the plates

1 piece of Turkey bacon on each plate

1 cookie or muffin heart shaped

That is not enough food to sustain growing children.

I would of had my "Dunky Eggs Special Platter" for my boys, w/a side of biscuits and gravy.

And a big ol` glass of instant chocolate milk.

All those eggs that she had from her chickens will last her 6 months from what she had on the plate.

She might of scrambled 2 small eggs and divided them by 3.

I am surprised that those kids don't get dizzy and faint at school from not eating properly.

I am glad they don't, but by the way she feeds them, I am surprised they don't.

heavennoseven said...

A toddler would eat that much or more then what Kate gives her kids.

StillDisgustedinTX said...

I am always shocked by the miserly amount of food Kate serves her kids. This is beyond portion control and feeding them a healthy diet. It is to me symptomatic of the psychological mess that we know Kate to be. She thinks she is being healthy and serving them proper portions to maintain a healthy weight. Those children look under-nourished to me. Granted, they were preemies and won't be on the above average size of the scale for kids their age, but I would not be surprised if they landed on the below average small side of the scale. Bottom line is they appear to be underfed and deprived of the freedom and independence to choose what they like to eat, how much they want to eat (including the option to eat MORE) and when they want to eat. If we equated food with love as many often do, what does this say about Kate? Is she rationing her love too? I saw her say recently that she was trying to love each of her kids as if they were an only child. I could have died because she is the least affectionate mother I have ever seen in my life. I continue to be so sorry for those kids.

Feed Me, I'm Yours said...

The kids are slightly built, small-boned, and very "fine-featured." According to their weight at the Tennessee give-back event, their average was 46 pounds, which is in the normal range for a 6-year old, which is what they were at the event. Some kids don't eat a lot at one sitting. Their tummies just can't hold large volumes. They may be "grazers," eating frequent small meals. I think that's what is going on there.

ncgirl said...

Of course, People magazine online had an article about Kate being lonely on Dr. Drew. Boo hoo. I'm sure Kate's BFF Katie Coyne was behind that. On Dr. Drew's facebook page, a local from Reading posted how horrible Kate was. I'm sure that's no surprise.

On twitter, a while back, Kate mentioned going to Missouri. An article says she's going to be a guest speaker at a fundraiser for a camp for special needs children. It's some Mother's Day related event. I'm sure the camp is a good cause, but sheeple must be in charge there. The article is at

http://tinyurl.com/72e3cwm

logical said...

I actually dont live all that far from the Missouri event. I wonder if it would be worth my time to go see kate up close.

nah probably not

ncgirl said...

Jon now has a public twitter. He said it was for business so I wonder if it's a way to make extra money. He says he won't answer any questions about his kids. He's already encountered a hater; I guess he should be used to that. Of course, the sheeple are tearing apart his words. I don't know if it's a good idea, but I hope it works for him.

MossHill said...

Would someone PLEASE explain to me *why* this item is online ?

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/02/kate-gosselin-tanning-salon-photos

There is something very strange going on ...

wondering said...

MossHill said...
Would someone PLEASE explain to me *why* this item is online ?

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/02/kate-gosselin-tanning-salon-photos

There is something very strange going on ...
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Just speculation, but isn't the school play this weekend? It could be a bigger event than regular schools.

another parent said...

Did anyone hear anything about the play Alice that Maddy was in this past weekend? Photos of older lead charachters appeared on line. The sets and costumes looked super cute.

cheap prom dresses said...

To those who have read the book: Many of you are saying that much of this is straight from Kate's journal. How do you know? Is it just because the author says so? Are there screen shots of hand-written pages in the book?
I'm not second guessing, I'm just curious because no one seems to be saying it's not her journal, just that maybe he didn't get them in a legitimate way.