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51 comments:

Anonymous said...

I haven't seen K8 in the media for over a week - what a relief!

help please said...

If Kate goes move out of state with the kids. How can she do that without Jon alllowing them?

so sick of her said...

I found this on the net: This is called the Mirror Awards 2011: and this articles is from Vanity Fair, from 2009, (don't know why its one of the articles to be included for 2011?)
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/features/2009/10/jon-and-kate-gosselin-200910
interesting read, on how it all began and fell apart and Kate disgusting attitude. Read this and you get just how me me me me it is. Kate and only Kate, and how she really looks at fans. They did talk about Jon, bashed a little, but I felt for Jon. Kate is beyond words.

Sunrise, Sunset said...

Tami said...This is simply not true. During the course of the show while still married, she started with that wacky hairstyle, the tummy tuck, weight loss, veneers, different clothing and shoe style..not the tramp she is now, but still much different from when they met!
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You need to read the assertion of the original statement -- that Kate was getting stares that Jon didn't like (at the end of their relationship). This is the seductress factor. She may have gotten people talking because of the wacky hairstyle (most likely not the compliments she wanted!), but the total physical change didn't happen until that January 2010 People mag came out. When, during her marriage, did she prance up and down the beach with her new "girls" exposed? She didn't - that happened AFTER the divorce, along with the daily tanning, running, botox (remember those Mr. Spock eyebrows?)...this was the physical transformation that was aimed at getting the "stares," not the tummy tucks or teeth whitening.

Snow Globe said...

help please said...

If Kate goes move out of state with the kids. How can she do that without Jon alllowing them?

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She needs his permission; however, if he doesn't give it, then the court decides. It depends where she wants to move. If it's New York (close promixity to PA), then it most likely would be granted because it wouldn't be too difficult for him to maintain his visitation rights. It also depends on what is written in the custody agreement, as well as the type of custody granted. She has to show that the move would be in the best interest of the children.

HavePlentyof$OnHand said...

OK this has been bandied-about so much: Ihave firsthand experience (from both sides of "visitation")- and I can tell you that it DOES depend on what is written in the divorce/custody decree HOWEVER: family judges nowadays have gotten very strict about a custodial parent just "Doing what they want" all the time esp. w/regard to moving. IF the noncustodial parents objects to an upcoming move, and files the objection (more $$$$ of course), then s/he can legitimately protest any move of (usually) roughly > 150 mile radius, or about a 2-hrs. drive. But the key is that the noncusutodail parent must object. It would be very rare for a judge to step in w/o a motion being placed because, simply, they dont' care and dont have the time to monitor everyones' cases...obviously. Of course in the case of Hate Kreider-Gosselin, she will come up with all sorts of SELF-SERVING reasons why she "has to move", need to work, etc...wah wah ANd given the favorable rulings she has consistently gotten in their jurisdiction (whereever in PA), it wouldn't surprise to have a judge/the judge? rule for her YET AGAIN. Gag. / Jon would have a chance but he would need to be VERY aggressive (like her!), AND likewise, have an aggressive lawyer. Oh, and if whatever move goes through, it would be near impossible to be reversed or "erased" w/regard to any of the G.offspring. Rulings in "Family" court are seldom reversed; it really is like being Setin Stone! His best chance if he blew this one, would be to wait until any of them turn 13 and could make a motion to be heard that they wanted to live w/Jon, and why. Judges WILL LISTEN to a teen child, but again: motions cost $$ Lots of money for more lawyers and more fees. DIvorce and custody is really for rich people b/c the less-well-off get *screwed". (IMO of course)

Berks Has Shoes! said...

His best chance if he blew this one, would be to wait until any of them turn 13 and could make a motion to be heard that they wanted to live w/Jon, and why.

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This is PA. They don't have to wait until they are 13 to be heard. In this state, there is no law regardig the age of the child in deciding where he/she wants to live. Courts hear from children as young as five or six, but age 12 is more common. The child, however, must have valid reasons to wanting to live with one parent or the other. Very young children often don't have valid reasons. The court will not decide in a child's favor who says that he/she wants to live with the other parent simply because that parent has a bigger house, a swimming pool, lets him stay up late, or buys him nicer toys.

The court will, however, listen to a young child, IF that child can show just cause as to why he wants to live with the other parent. The child is interviewed by the judge without either parent present, so that the parents cannot influence the child one way or the other.

Brummygirl said...

Berks has shoes said:
This is PA. They don't have to wait until they are 13 to be heard. In this state, there is no law regardig the age of the child in deciding where he/she wants to live. Courts hear from children as young as five or six, but age 12 is more common.
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P.A. is a law unto itself!

Monster Mommy said...

An excerpt from an article written in Alaska's Anchorage Press... (as expected Kate Gosselin was not well-received, during her visit to the state).

Get out of Alaska! Our list of people, organizations and things we wish would just go away

Re: Reality TV-
"Everybody wants a piece of Alaska ever since you-know-who burst on the national scene with her winks and “you betcha!”s. She even got into the action herself, though thankfully that atrocity of a show didn’t get picked up for a second season. It did, though, attract Kate Gosselin, perhaps the most horrendous reality show “star” of all time, to our state. Thankfully she’s gone, as is Sarah’s show. But the Alaska-based reality shows keep coming."

http://www.anchoragepress.com/articles/2011/02/11/news/doc4d2e4079c1df1565271002.txt

Berks Has Shoes! said...

P.A. is a law unto itself!

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I think it goes back to Billy Penn and the Quakers. They were a determined group, and set in their ways. PA was a self-governing colony. Old traditions die hard, if at all.

Who Did What First said...

I just wanted you to know that today while shopping in Lancaster I saw Jodi with her daughter. Jodi is even prettier in person than how I remembered her on TV. I can see why Kate wanted Jodi off the show. Kate's looks can't compare to Jodi. By the way, Jodi's figure is to die for and she should be modeling.

LancNative said...

Who Did What First said...

I just wanted you to know that today while shopping in Lancaster I saw Jodi with her daughter.

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Park City?

Anonymous said...

The court will, however, listen to a young child, IF that child can show just cause as to why he wants to live with the other parent. The child is interviewed by the judge without either parent present, so that the parents cannot influence the child one way or the other.

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I would think that a child asking for a life of privacy without cameras would be a good enough reason to live with Dad.

WhoDidWhatFirst said...

LancNative said...
Who Did What First said...

I just wanted you to know that today while shopping in Lancaster I saw Jodi with her daughter.

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Park City?

2/12/2011 4:07 PM

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No, it was at the new shopping center just above Rockvale on Route 30. We did have a brief conversation, not about Kate, and she was very gracious. She didn't seem to mind me acknowledging her and I told her that I recognized her from the show.

Esmeralda said...

http://www.eonline.com/photos/gallery.jsp?galleryUUID=2653#102710

LOL. From E! Top 10 douches of 2010.

so sick of her said...

I find the VanityFair article 2009, they said Kate had a trainer? Could purseboy be Kates trainer also? When that Halloween special was on, they scanned the basement and Kate had a lot of expensive exercise equiptment at least 3 or 4. Maybe thats why purseboy is staying in the basement, besides being boobyguard and handler and pic taker.

LancNative said...

No, it was at the new shopping center just above Rockvale on Route 30. We did have a brief conversation, not about Kate, and she was very gracious. She didn't seem to mind me acknowledging her and I told her that I recognized her from the show.

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Ah, Mill Creek Square! Jodi is a sweetheart, unassuming, and totally opposite of her sister-in-law!

Monster Mommy said...

I found Aunt Jodi's personality on the show to be very endearing. I have no doubt that she and Kevin continue to love all of the children, as they always have. (Although, I've heard they have been estranged for quite some time, so a relationship is not possible- with a mother like theirs... at least until they are 18.) I hope they never stop fighting for what is in the best interest of the kids, whether it means going to court or not. Remember Paul Petersen sued Octomom here in CA and won.

Do I feel it is best NOT to publish the truth, in order to profit financially with books like Werny Gal and Al's? I don't know. I guess saying and doing nothing when you see something very wrong is also a crime. I'd feel better about it if they gave 100% of the proceeds to A Minor Consideration.

For now, I'll just write another letter (beginning with the standard Kate Gosselin template I typically use)... and send it over to the Execs @ The Talk.

Button Button said...

I thought Paul Peterson lost that suit. It was "none of his business."

http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/09/octomom-appeals-court-victory/3

Still not buying! said...

saw Kate's Multiple Blessings on the shelf yesterday...at Goodwill! ha.

Tami said...

You need to read the assertion of the original statement -- that Kate was getting stares that Jon didn't like (at the end of their relationship). This is the seductress factor. She may have gotten people talking because of the wacky hairstyle (most likely not the compliments she wanted!), but the total physical change didn't happen until that January 2010 People mag came out. When, during her marriage, did she prance up and down the beach with her new "girls" exposed? She didn't - that happened AFTER the divorce, along with the daily tanning, running, botox (remember those Mr. Spock eyebrows?)...this was the physical transformation that was aimed at getting the "stares," not the tummy tucks or teeth whitening.
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Before divorce while still with Jon: Veneers, tummy tuck, hair dying and weird cut, different clothing style including high heels, skirts. Yes, I did get the "assertion of the original statement" and stand by my comment. They were still together on the shows as she flirted with men who were on the show and off camera. She didn't have her current look, but it was still a look far different than when she was first a mom!

Bosom Buddies said...

Tammi commented:

"They were still together on the shows as she flirted with men who were on the show and off camera."

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I wasn't aware that we saw what she did off camera! That must have been scary!


"She didn't have her current look, but it was still a look far different than when she was first a mom!"


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I don't think we saw her when the twins were babies, which, of course, was when she was "first a mom."

Nobody claimed that she looked the same as she did in the early shows. One only has to look at the photos of her in the hospital (brown hair) and when the tups were babies to know that in the past six years her appearance has changed drastically.

When did she get the "good bra?" When did those "girls" have their first outing? Was this after the divorce? If so, this was when the "real" transformation occurred. After all, the ta-tas make the woman (or so she thinks).

Morning Song said...

She didn't have her current look, but it was still a look far different than when she was first a mom!

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Did TLC show film of Kate with Cara and Mady as newborns (not month-old babies, but in the hospital, shortly after birth)?

Barbra said...

if SHE is such a viewer magnet why isn't The Talk promoting the heck out of her supposed upcoming appearance? What GOOD does it do to 'have her on to boost their ratings if they don't pre-announce her presence'? OR is it that they are being forced for some unknown reason to have her on (due to some higher up agenda) and due to being embarrassed about it are afraid to announce it. I'm sure someone 'with' the show reads blogs and knows what the general feeling is regarding peoples feelings about and toward her.

Gaby said...

so sick of her said...
I found this on the net: This is called the Mirror Awards 2011: and this articles is from Vanity Fair, from 2009, (don't know why its one of the articles to be included for 2011?)
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/features/2009/10/jon-and-kate-gosselin-200910
interesting read, on how it all began and fell apart and Kate disgusting attitude. Read this and you get just how me me me me it is. Kate and only Kate, and how she really looks at fans. They did talk about Jon, bashed a little, but I felt for Jon. Kate is beyond words.
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Thanks for posting that link! Just when I think I can't get more disgusted about Kate and her tricks, I surprise myself. Her FAO Schwarz shopping trip a few years back was a staged photo opt after all, not a shopping trip for her kids.

so sick of her said...

Gaby: I would say that this article pretty much sums up Kate. After reading this, you could swear that this article was so current, and not from 2009. But, I do think Kate started to change right after she got that ugly hair cut. She got that attitude: I am Kate and I can be/do anything with or with out Jon. Course, I do think that TLC people were pumping stuff/ideas, into Kates head, probably telling her that if Jon does not go along dump him. After all Kate you were the one who carried 8 kids, Jon was just the sperm giver. You did all the work. Wave a few bills in front, promise her fame/celeb statis, and she took it hook,line & sinker. Kids are the props, keep them babyish, small looking, and childish thinking, and everybody love them. Take notice, the twins are not filmed as much, and if they are, always with an attitude. Cause, geez, Kate they are growing up, they are not as cute as they use to be, they are in that weird place in growth, we all go through that. Jon saw the signal, and wanted to stop. Kate drove right through it. There you have it your carwreck. JMO

lilmama said...

I had to come on here and share this.

My son is a huge fan of wrestling and we were watching Monday' Night Raw. Now there is this one lady from one of the other shows who is disliked by everyone. Her name is Vicky Guerrero I think. Anyhow, she screams "Excuse Me!" over and over when people are talking and she has the backward mullet. It dawned on me last night- she HAD to be based off of Kate. And the more I watched the more I laughed about it.

Say it aint so said...

Flipping around the channels tonight and saw an ad for the train wreck. And Jon was in the ad. Has he fallen off the high road and being filmed again or is TLC so desperate that they are going to trot out old footage so the sheeple can relive the nightmare.
Did anyone else see this?

ella's mum said...

I watched the 100th episode on youtube the other day and I noticed that Kate hadn't purchased the "good bra" when Emeril was there, but she had clearly been to the "mall" and purchased one by the time she did the sit down couch interview, with a quick stop at the tanning salon too!!

Hopeful said...

Has anyone seen the latest TLC promo spot? It's a montage of their full compliment of "reality" stars, from the cake boss to the duggars, to the little people etc; and NO KATE... Please tell me this is a good sign of things to come. Maybe that brassy wanna be hag has finally used her 15 minutes up.....here's hoping....

Shoshanna said...

Kate flew to LA and spent Valentine's there, leaving the kids with a babysitter. I guess the days of her putting out little treats for each one of them and saying "Valentine's Day is about love!" are over. The only love Kate knows is self-love. And remember her proclamation about spending every single holiday with her kids, no matter what? Pffffft!
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/features/2009/10/jon-and-kate-gosselin-200910

Tami said...

So, no "paparazzi" photos from the LA trip plastered all over? Hmmm..She is such old news they don't even fake pics much anymore : )

Nothing changes, it just dwindles said...

Bosom Buddies said...
Tammi commented:
"They were still together on the shows as she flirted with men who were on the show and off camera."
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I wasn't aware that we saw what she did off camera! That must have been scary!

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Hi, all. The original poster likely meant that Kate has always been guffawing and flirting with someone TO THE SIDE OF the camera - just a bit off-camera.

I could be wrong but I dont think Tammi meant to imply that anyone here has viewed what goes on when the cameras are not rolling.

I dont intend to start an off-topic conversation, but I thought I would remind us all what ACTUAL Bodyguards do with ACTUAL celebreties around ACTUAL fans and ACTUAL paparazzi (not the fake hired kind.) Note the bodyguards - not carrying purses or pens or shopping bags.

http://omg.yahoo.com/photos/lagy-gaga-plays-it-safe/4604#OmgPhoid=3

An honest day's work said...

TMZ has a set of pictures of Jon with his work crew up on a roof. Probably doing some sort of installation.

hannah said...

She says the show is not to blame for her marrige. She says she the parent on and off cam. How is she a parent if she leaves the kids all the time? She doesnt help them much with school, she pulls them out for 2 weeks.

I wish Jon could take them during when shes gone. The kids need him to grow etc. Its somthing that only a parent can do, not even the best nanny ever.

Can't See Sheep said...

Shoshanna said...
The only love Kate knows is self-love. And remember her proclamation about spending every single holiday with her kids, no matter what? Pffffft!
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And she will do her darnedest to make sure Jon doesn't get to spend it with them either. Enough of this selfish nonsense, if she can't be bothered to be home, then the children's father should darn well be with them. The children are really going to remember her for what she's done, that's for sure, most likely not in the way k8's hoping. I'd call her a selfish cow, but it seems like such an understatement.

so sick of her said...

Ok, Kate: bottom of the barrow talk shows. Just got this at the other site: Kate will be on: George Lopez Tonight on Feb 21st. Another trip to LA or is she still in LA? Maybe getting some kind of surgery, botox etc. Such a good mother NOT! Always there NOT! She made a fool of herself on the Talk, contradicted herself. Also, did anyone notice, on The talk she hinted to the Today Show, that they need to have her on. Why would you mention another show, especially a interview/talk on another Talk show unless you want them to have you on it. Oprah and Letterman, each wanted to be on each others show, kept saying that for years, finally happened. Kate is hinting to the Today show people. So now she will appear on any talk show that will have her, even ones very few people ever heard of. If you never heard of George Lopez Tonight is because it's on cable? I've heard of him, but did not know he had a talk show or what or when it's on. So far, The View, Today, Ellen, Rachel Ray, Martha Stewart, Regis & Kelly etc, do not have her booked. Clueless idiot

Gaby said...

US weekly is reporting that Jon found a job as a construction worker. Jon is pictured sitting on a roof in construction smoking a cigarette. What gives? I thought Jon was an IT specialist.

so sick of her said...

GOOD FOR JON! Jon might be doing another job, after all Her royal A-hole has got to have that outrageous amount of child support, to support her not the kids.(Kate thinks this is punishing him. NOT!) Jon looks very happy, good stick it to Kate, Jon. Course, now Kate will find something else to bash him about. Kate has not moved on, like Jon has. Some of the sheeple are bashing him about this job, as if this job is bottom of the barrow. Sheeple are sickos! YOU GO JON! Not like Kate, who sits around all day, waiting for Hollywood or TLC to call. This woman has 10 hours during the day to do WHAT? Plus, the weekends when the kids are at Jons. Lots of free time. Since, she has nannys, a cook, landscapers, pool cleaner, cleaning people, a trainer(purseboy?), and manages to spend a couple hours at tanning, spa, target, fed-ex, flying to NYC for her hair. Such a busy person. She has no pets to care for, the dog is taken care of by someone else, the kids are tutored, Kate would never teach them herself(geez, just listening to the way she makes up words and talks, and then have her teach? SCARY!) Since, Kate went on about that 99% of what is said about her on the internet is not true, then it is fair to say, she sits on the internet, and reads about herself. And as all of us know this can be addictive, this also explains, when she picks up mail, she has a lot of small boxes(shopping addict?) JMO

chesterctymom said...

A horse walks into a bar and the bartender says..."Hey, it's Kate Gosselin"...

Monster Mommy said...

For So Sick of Her...

Yes, I believe Kate does spend a great amount of her free time Googling herself.

~Sent from my 6th BLUE iPhone!~

Agh... Just kidding.

Proud Grandma. said...

I say good for John. At least he is out there getting his hands dirty and caloused. You know something? I had a friend who had degrees coming out the yin yang and couldn't get a job. The family was suffering. One day my husband mentioned that IKEA was looking for workers. (it is a good company to work for). Our friend looked at my husband like he had a hole in his head and said "Are you seriously suggesting I do manual work? I have degrees in computer science, yadda yadda yadda" My response to him was that there is no disgrace in working with your hands and puting your back into a "dirty" job, but there is more disgrace in not doing anything and your family suffers because of your pride.
This is my long way at saying "Go John, you may be used to working in IT, but ther is no shame in doing whetever you can even if it is installing roofing, patching roads, fixing leaky plumbing or whtever, someone has to do it.

WonderButton said...

Thanks for the smile, chester county mom.

Jane in California said...

What would the sheeple do if they couldn't bash Jon. For a long time, they took pleasure in bashing him for not getting a job; now they take pleasure in bashing him for getting a job, but one that doesn't meet their standards. Who knew they had standards?

In today's economy, and with Jon's limited education and employment record, he's lucky to get any sort of job. I happen to know a young man who installs solar panels for a living and he makes a very good income. In fact, so good that he was able to buy his own home - in California. So to any who would look down on this particular job, too bad for you. It's a green industry, it's a physical job which will keep Jon active, and it can pay quite well.

Jon has indeed moved on, as much as he can with Kate trying to make his life miserable any which way she can. I think Kate's narcissistic personality cannot accept that Jon is happier without her, and it burns her up inside. How dare he move on, find happiness with another woman, and seemingly no longer care about her? She can't stand him to be happy.

For those that admire Kate, I still can't figure out why. She contributes nothing to make the world a better place, she doesn't hold down a "real" job, she sponges off her kids' income, she dresses like a tramp, she's heavily involved with a married man, she publicly bashes the father of her children, she's vain, she treats her family poorly, and worst of all, she treats her own children poorly. What is there to admire in that hot mess?

megan said...

Nothing changes said.....

I dont intend to start an off-topic conversation, but I thought I would remind us all what ACTUAL Bodyguards do with ACTUAL celebreties around ACTUAL fans and ACTUAL paparazzi (not the fake hired kind.) Note the bodyguards - not carrying purses or pens or shopping bags.
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Yes, my definition of a bodyguard is, a suit with an earpiece!! :)

Merrilee said...

If you never heard of George Lopez Tonight is because it's on cable? I've heard of him, but did not know he had a talk show or what or when it's on. So far, The View, Today, Ellen, Rachel Ray, Martha Stewart, Regis & Kelly etc, do not have her booked. Clueless idiot

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I watched a few minutes of George Lopez when I was flipping through the channels some time ago.

The reason I paused was because he was talking trash about Kate Gosselin.

Seemed he thought she was lower than low. Now she will be his guest?

Like every other host, he will probably kiss her feet and make her feel all warm and cozy.

These hosts sicken me.

Anonymous said...

Jon Gosselin is the most searched person on Yahoo! Good for him getting a job, and in this economy.

lindahoyt said...

So proud of Jon Gosselin! I hope he is proud of himself..because he is doing right by his kids. He needs to take them back to church now too, because that is the lifestyle they grew up with.

I also hope that he starts to give back to the community that gave him and his family so much. Would love to see him put in some volunteer time, and buying someone else diapers who need them.

Keep it up Jon!

No Worry, Beef Curry said...

Well, well, well...

A new job-eroo for Jon Gosselin Trending #1 on Yahoo- ALL DAY.

*smile*

I'm really loving the turn-around, where the American public opinion is concerned. Roofing/Paneling is a real man's job... my boyfriend did it for many years. (He's actually complaining about doing this type of work, to a friend on the phone this VERY minute.) My favorite comment from a Facebook'er this evening... I guess doing The Talk was a bad move this week for Kate.

"who really gives a flip jon smokes? so what a lot of people do. i used to and quit. and i am betting the ones putting him down are lighting up right now. and why should he have played nice, his ex never did. and again she was the one that ended the marriage. he had to act for the cameras because kate and tlc wanted to keep it all a secret and fool the viewing audience. at least he is working and taking the high road, something his ex wife sure didn't do but of course lied about it. every word out of her mouth on the talk was a lie. what a laugh. kudos jon."

Monster Mommy said...

Go Jon!

Now let's work toward getting a reasonable Judge to look at his current income-- and adjust child support payments, according to his currently salary.

I certainly believe eight children can live off less than $22K+ per month. This figure is ridiculous, given his inability to make the income he had once received 'working' for TLC. Speaking of which, the mainstream (gauging by internet-based comments only) seems to be looking at Kate Gosselin as a lazy Reality TV fame whore... living off the backs of her own children, after the news of Jon's gainful employment aired.

Watch-- Jon will make Kate look like a fool for saying there is no other way to support their family.

Tami said...

Hi, all. The original poster likely meant that Kate has always been guffawing and flirting with someone TO THE SIDE OF the camera - just a bit off-camera.

I could be wrong but I dont think Tammi meant to imply that anyone here has viewed what goes on when the cameras are not rolling.

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You are absolutely right and I believe the original poster knows this as well.