Wednesday, Feb 2, 10 PM The E! True Hollywood Story: Kate Gosselin

An exclusive look is taken at the life of a controversial reality TV mother whose eight children and tumultuous relationship with her husband have taken center stage in the media, propelling her to popularity and widespread public scrutiny.

(60 minutes)

173 comments:

Be Glad to Have Peace & Quiet on our Roads Again said...

I sincerely hope and pray that the love, affection, care and good discipline, learning and the religious component that are professed during a 700 Club are discussed and how none of the above are a part of the Gosselin household.

I remember the visit to the St. Jude Hospital and how Kate acted as though she was forced to go to that hospital, just walked thru as fast as she could and showed no kindness to the guide who, herself, was in remission.

Also hope the reselling of free clothes given to the gosselins is brought up.

The amount of money spent on plastic surgery/botox/face/fillers/chest fillers and amount of time she does not spend with those children.

In other words, the grifting/begging/lying is a part of the show.

Not looking to take a salary away from Kate. Just take the kids off of TV, take the filming lights out of that house and go to work Kate. Go out to Hollywood and take some acting courses or start a charity. Seems you do have a talent, raising money for a make believe charity. You are good at that. Not much else.

MaryP said...

I hope that someone pointed them to the Reading Eagle articles that were written years ago. Starting with her pregnancy and continued up to the point when the reporters were told by the editor not to write anything more about them. I have several relatives that live in the same area,including my 90+ mother who gave a donation to them when they first started begging.

so sick of her said...

I for one will not be watching this show when it is on the first time. The first time is when rating count. Because, if you give this show ratings, TLC will take that as, a sign that Kate is still popular, marketable and relevant. I for one do not want to give TLC and Kate, that satisfaction. Kate has not earned that. If Kate wants to be an actress, go to acting school, give Jon, custody of the kids, and then Kate you will be free. Course, we all know why she won't do that: FREE RIDE, FREE STUFF, at her kids expense and she does not have to work.

Barbra said...

The fact that once again 'she' is being overglamourized by the media is enough to make me gag. The fact that no one EVER has the courage to really confront her about her actions, attitude, and abominable behavior with and without her kids is enough to make me vomit. The fact that she is STILL able to rake in benefits from having a medically enhanced birth of a litter is enough to make me scream. What is NOT a fact is anything that tv interviewers have talked about with her and any form of written material about her. She is so adept at lying that she can no longer stick to the same story in a given sentence. She has continually contradicted her own statements in the same conversation. so WHY do they keep interviewing, promoting, advertising, and shoving her down our throats? Let her crawl back under the rock she came from where she so truly belongs!

1momski said...

so sick of her said...
I for one will not be watching this show when it is on the first time. The first time is when rating count. Because, if you give this show ratings, TLC will take that as, a sign that Kate is still popular, marketable and relevant

I am in "complete agreeance" with you so sick of her. Kate and TLC are banking on the continued viewership of her detractors in order to justify the "freak show"
I won't watch anything that Kate appears in-EVER!

Ohio Buckeye said...

Hope I'm wrong, but my guess is that this show will be twisted in the direction of presenting K8G in a sympathetic light.

My guess is they will somewhat acknowledge that she is strongly reviled but then will follow up with bogus rationales for why K8G 'HAD' to do what she did, i.e., she has already tried to sell us the concept of NEEDING the TLC $ for her beloved children and, that being the case, she MUST continue, and, besides, she claimed there is never going to be an escape from all the publicity, photogs, criticism, so, we are supposed to believe she might as well continue to make the best of the supposedly inescapable disadvantages of fame.

I would love to be wrong, but am doubting they will present K8G as being addicted to fame, fortune, and attention.

I'm afraid it's going to be just another chorus of K8G's usual "I work so hard and everything I do is for my kids."

Yeah, sure.

Barb from Canada said...

I hope they have before and after pictures: when Kate's show first aired, she looked like an attractive, middle-class suburban mom. Now, after thousands upon thousands of dollars worth of plastic surgery and other cosmetic procedures, hair extensions, tanning sessions, manis and pedis, and so on, she looks like trailer trash. It seems that the more money she spends, the cheaper she looks.

Momof2 said...

Not watching either.

gosselinarchives said...

After my YT account was deleted for a 3rd time I finally decided to create yet another one specifically so I can upload this. Should be interesting.

Pattypanda said...

I think it's a safe bet that maybe 5% of the real Kate will be shown, i.e.; the lying, spending $$ on herself, the relationship with Steve, her lack of affection shown towards her children, the selling out of Jon, no down time for the kids, work, work, work. They will not question why Kate cannot hold a real 8-4 job. It will basically be a fluff piece.

joanne said...

I wont be watching either. She makes me ill and I fear for those kids.
They should sue TLC when they are 18.

Brummygirl said...

@Ohio Buckeye:
I tend to agree with you. I cannot see a t.v. station trashing her totally. I feel there will be pros and cons thrown about her.
The flies thrown out to catch the fish i.e. the anti-Kate ads, are just that...to get people to watch hoping Kate will go down in flames.
As you say Buckeye, we could be wrong, but I put nothing past the media. The only hope that some of truth comes out, is Werny Girl.
As I stated on the other thread, I will not watch the program as I know this will be picked up elsewhere when it doesn't affect the ratings.
How many times have we expected Kate to get her *comeupance* and she walked away scott free?

Ohio Buckeye said...

P.S. - I won't be watching this program. Or any other program that involves the Gosselins. They have LONG overstayed their welcome. They are the houseguests who refuse to politely TAKE A HINT that they are no longer welcome.

WonderButton said...

From upthread...
"They should sue TLC when they are 18."

Too bad they will only get money. It would be great if they could magically get their childhoods back. Poor kids. Shame on TLC. But the biggest injury is from their own mother. It's beyond comprehension and cosmically inexcusable. Kate, I got news for you - your sheeple may buy the spin from your PR people, but your "friends" and "family" don't, and I doubt St. Peter will either.

Barbra said...

My thought... they can do the pros and cons, if they can come up with any real pros.

It seems like she might feel it's going to be 'not so good' as she's not on her usual venues touting it.

N.E. Psychologist said...

I most emphatically will NOT be watching.
There's nothing new and I refuse to give anything about kate any ratings.

ToTheMoonAlice said...

"Popularity"?!?! More like "Noteriety"!

Kartie Dearest said...

I will be watching as I think a lot of the the "truths" that we've been blogging out about for years will be revealed in this show.

If they interviewed Werny Girl and took that much info. There's little you can spin with. I have watched E's THS before and they rarely paint the subject in a good light, especially controversial ones like KG versus sympathetic figures (like Sandra Bullock, Jennifer Hudson, etc.)

This is the calm before the storm and it won't be us "bleeting" and "baahing".

I Heart Buffy said...

I think this THS will be horrible for Kate. She refused to comment. Jon refused. TLC refused. I think they'll bring up things Kate does not want people remembering. They'll show clips of Kate being psychotic to Jon & her kids. People will comment on her erratic behavior, behind the scenes especially. She has no real friends, so this is really one sided, which may not be fair, but I find it unbelievably justifying.
Doesn't Kate deserve this comeuppance?

She has been a horrible mother, a horrible person & a horrible human being. She has been let off the hook way to many times & has gotten to "speak her mind" far too much. The media has cow-towed to this wench, & she deserves to be skewered, IMO. I believe in good will towards all, but Kate has had way too many chances, & she has blown through each & every one. Look what she has put those children through, from DAY ONE.

I sincerely hope THS wipes the floor with Kate & exposes her for who she really is. People already know anyway. The only blind ones are the sheeple. They will never be swayed, no matter what. They will have a reason if this THS bashes Kate, like editing, or conspiracy theories. (haha). Whatever, anyway, I think this will really expose Kate for who she is; a lying, grifting, famewhore, who only cares about the spotlight & money, and NOT about the welfare of her children, who she has been exploiting from the day they were born (or before even!) And she sought this, she WANTED the multiples for the fame. Nothing more. And she has shut out family members for fame...I could go on & on, but I have ranted long enough. Sorry guys!! I hope E! has her by the silicone...

K8STFU said...

Slightly OT :

NE Psych, great to hear from you even tho you don't post regularly anymore.

I hear you Beantowners are in for ANOTHER snow storm!!


Regarding the THS segment, we all know that Jon is totally controlled by TLC, there is no way he would have been allowed to say one darn word, which may be a blessing in disguise (for the kids' sake).

jon said...

I would like to hear about how much of her own money goes to the nannies. Do the kids have any left?

Suspicious said...

I doubt this will be damaging to Kate and what little bit of reputation she may have left because, to our knowledge, neither she nor TLC have tried to block this from airing.

In fact, I don't put it past TLC or Kate's PR team to have pitched the idea to E! in the first place to keep her relevant. Aren't they all basically in bed with each other?

I guess we'll all know on Wednesday.

Brummygirl said...

From the Baltimore Sun:

The show will interview former Gosselin nanny Stephanie Santoro, who claims to have had a romance with Jon. He denied they had a relationship.

Paul Petersen, president of A Minor Consideration, a child advocacy group, is one of the experts interviewed for the show. According to E!, he says, "Who is to blame for the fate of the Gosselins? Is it the Gosselins themselves? Or is it maybe this appetite of American viewers to watch a slow-motion train wreck?"

Also interviewed is Brian Sep, a friend of Jon's. "If my wife was bossing me around and making fun of me on national TV, I couldn't deal with it," Sep says in the show.

The show also will examine how, after their divorce was final, Kate moved on with her own life and experienced first-hand the challenges of raising a child as a single parent.

"Kate has more than her hands full and is not a bad person," Eric Roberts, supporter of Natural Child Project, tells E!. "To have kids is the easiest job to get in the world. To raise kids properly is the hardest."

"Kate's fans admire her for being a working mom, having a lot of kids, managing a household and basically doing it all, when it's very hard even for the average mom to do it," Polly Kahl tells E!. She's the author of "Jon & Kate Plus Eight: Reality TV & The Selling Of The Gosselins."

It doesn't sound like a bashfest to me!!

Here Comes The Fluff said...

"Kate's fans admire her for being a working mom, having a lot of kids, managing a household and basically doing it all, when it's very hard even for the average mom to do it,"

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Huh? Doing it all? Maybe that's what the fans believe, but we know that Kate has nannies, cooks, housekeepers, Steve (surrogate dad), etc. etc. Why would Werny even such a statement without adding a qualifier?

This whole thing sounds like nothing more than generic fluff once again...

Duck said...

Sounds like I won't be watching. I am trying not to vomit this year!

KatesDirtyFlintstoneFeet said...

Here Comes The Fluff said...
Huh? Doing it all? Why would Werny even such a statement without adding a qualifier?
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I too was amazed that Werny Gal even made such a statement!! I thought she was against all things Kate. I guess she's getting paid to only say nice things...WOW, just wow

winsomeone said...

"E" did hire Katie several times to do interviews, so I hardly think the show till bash her. I imagine it will be easier on her than any of us will like.

Kat said...

I think when it comes to Kate Gosselin nobody knows the truth. I would be inclined to believe Jon, Beth Carson, Aunt Jodi and a handful of others that have been cut out of her life with gag orders. I hate that the press continues to glorify this child abuser

dustilies said...

KatesDirtyFlintstoneFeet said...

Here Comes The Fluff said...
Huh? Doing it all? Why would Werny even such a statement without adding a qualifier?
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I too was amazed that Werny Gal even made such a statement!! I thought she was against all things Kate. I guess she's getting paid to only say nice things...WOW, just wow

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I could imagine an interviewer asking "what do Kate's fans see in her? Why is she marketable?" and Werny Gal gave that answer. She may well have gone on to say what an illusion all that "doing it herself" is. That part may be in the final show, or may not.

It is extremely hard to get across your own exact take on things in an interview of any kind. The journalist may think really different things are important than you do and ask questions only about those things. And whatever you say can be edited--even at the level of taking out or switching around parts of sentences.

Werny might have been able to insert more qualifiers. Of course she may have been rolling her eyes as she said it, so the transcribed quote might not capture the full flavor of what she said.

I haven't seen THS in a few years, but I remember being impressed at the depth of the research in the biographies I saw. So I'm hopeful.

mamasan said...

??? If Stephanie was a nanny wouldn't she have signed a Confidential contract?

Got Her Number said...

I thought E! and Entertainment Tonight were two separate entities. E! has Fashion Police with Joan Rivers who has Khate's number like only she can do.

Ohio Buckeye said...

"From the Baltimore Sun: Paul Petersen, president of A Minor Consideration, a child advocacy group, is one of the experts interviewed for the show. According to E!, he says, "Who is to blame for the fate of the Gosselins? Is it the Gosselins themselves? Or is it maybe this appetite of American viewers to watch a slow-motion train wreck?"

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AS IF this is an either/or question.

BOTH are to blame, but the responsibility falls to the parents to protect their children from all things, including a tv viewing audience that seems ravenous for an 'entertaining' trainwreck on their tv.

The Gosselin parents exploited both their children and the fact that some viewers seem to enjoy watching personal tragedy unfold as part of their tv entertainment. Add to that K8G wants to play it as if SHE is a victim - despicable beyond description.

Furthermore, the accomplishments noted as K8G's do not even BEGIN to measure up to the challenges faced by so many single moms. Moms who do not have the TLC $ and perks given to them simply because they bent the rules in their play of the infertility intervention situation.

To try to hold K8G up as a role model for single moms is insulting to all who had far more difficult divorces and post-divorce years than K8G could ever even dream up and did it without living in a mansion and taking trips around the world.

K8G is anything BUT my single, working mom hero and the thought that TLC wants to sell her as such honks me off.

E! vs Entertainment Tonight said...

winsomeone said...

"E" did hire Katie several times to do interviews, so I hardly think the show till bash her. I imagine it will be easier on her than any of us will like.
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E! and Entertainment Tonight are two different entities.

E! Entertainment Television is an American basic cable and satellite television network; the network is owned by NBCUniversal.

Entertainment Tonight is a daily tabloid-style television entertainment news show that is syndicated by CBS Television Distribution.

Mums The Word said...

Werny might have been able to insert more qualifiers. Of course she may have been rolling her eyes as she said it, so the transcribed quote might not capture the full flavor of what she said.

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That's why you keep your mouth shut and don't say anything. Things can be twisted in any way to suit the format. Anyone experienced in the media, entertainment, or journalism industry knows that and speaks accordingly, or they decline making a comment.

Sidney said...

Here Comes The Fluff said...
Huh? Doing it all? Why would Werny even such a statement without adding a qualifier?
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I think I read that she was thinking of Kate's kids while she was there and she didn't want to hurt them by what she said. She kept it "soft."

Brummygirl said...

Sidney said...
Here Comes The Fluff said...
Huh? Doing it all? Why would Werny even such a statement without adding a qualifier?
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I think I read that she was thinking of Kate's kids while she was there and she didn't want to hurt them by what she said. She kept it "soft."
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I guess this all depends on what Werny's book was about. Is it just a general expose on children in reality shows, or does she actually put Kate down in the book? On her site she said to her readers "I was nice about Kate". Which leads me to believe this was not what everyone was hoping for, the truth about Kate as perceived by the majority of the public.
Kate's followers (Baa) will argue that no one knows the real Kate and by that token, neither do they.
I feel that the general theme of this show is going to be against putting children on reality shows, not an outright slam at Kate Gosselin. I could be really wrong here, but somehow I don't think so. I will gladly eat my words if the opposite is the case peppered with organic sugar!!
As for going soft on Kate for the children; I do not understand that part, it is a little late for that as they can read what she thinks of their mother on her site and any other forum once they are able to use the internet. I am sure they will not be allowed to view this show.

Not Buying It said...

Looks like I won't be buying Werny Gals book like I did Al Walentis, which I paid $10.00 for and read in about 10 minutes surfing over the 9/10ths of it that was dedicated to Jon bashing. Someone like Joe McGiness needs to move in next door to her and write a book (like he is doing with Sarah). You can bet that he won't sugarcoat anything and it will take a year or more to write with no stone left unturned. These soft little fluff books are kind of like Khate's organic fluff - WTH!?!

In The Name Of Money said...

The fact is that Werny Gal was paid well for her kind (but false) words about Kate. As a cover-up, she is now stating she did so for the eight kids. Hardly.

GoPollyGo ... eh, not so much said...

KatesDirtyFlintstoneFeet said...

I too was amazed that Werny Gal even made such a statement!! I thought she was against all things Kate. I guess she's getting paid to only say nice things...WOW, just wow
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I’ve always had my suspicions about Werny Gal, and am starting to think she’s just another person riding the coat-tails of the Gosselin travesty. I did some searching around on the Internet, and it seems that Werny has not been licensed to practice psychology in PA for over 3 years. Yet, on her website which advertises her professional counseling/therapy services, she uses the initials MA/LPC after her name. “LPC” stands for Licensed Professional Counselor – yet it seems she has not been licensed for quite some time.

Personally, I think she enjoys the attention she gets as someone who claims to be “in the know” – which let’s face it, she really isn’t. She pretends to be an insider by associating herself with people who are vaguely in the know (Al Walentis), by stalking the Gosselins (she needed to be at that cornfield again, why??), and by using the fact that she lives in the same town as “evidence” that she somehow has her finger on the pulse of all things Gosselin. Heck, I used to live in the same town as Oprah Winfrey – doesn’t mean I ever ran into her, or can comment on her – ah-em – "friendship" with Gail…..

Werny claims that she soft-balled her comments on THS to protect the G8, who might one day see the episode and be hurt to see their mom trash-talked on national TV. Really? Seems to me she’s just trying to make herself look good, and downplay how truly ANTI-Kate she’s been these past few years. In the process, she’s undermined the goals of every pro-G8 blog out there. She had a chance to speak nationally for all of us – and could have done so very tactfully. Instead, she chose the “politician’s” tactic of trying to appeal to everyone – NOT for the G8, but in order to make herself look good. How anybody could follow her blog after this is beyond me. She’s a fraud on so many levels.

Kharma said...

It's interesting to see how Kharma unfolds. Does anyone see the irony here? TLC silenced Jon through a court order. Jon's inability to comment and speak about Kate and the kids has ironically made him appear to be handeling his children's privacy much better than Kate. Now Kate and only Kate is in the forefront. Her true colors are gradually being revealed (to the people who are not that great of judges of character and took a little while to figure her out). She's crusaded and tirelessly campaigned to build her empire, and now SHE is the one destroying it. Good will always prevail in the end.

Barbra said...

Hey, N.E. Psych: I'm with you not watching because there isn't enough Whiskey left to numb me enough to watch. (did you know 'barbee' ran out of the virtual whiskey you sent me?)

A question I have is ... just because the witch has $$$$$$ does she get to call everyone who is raising her kids a nanny (or, 'not-a-nanny' as she originally said they were)? Doesn't 'real' nannies have some kind of qualifications and training and aren't 'nanny schools' usually a little discriminative as to who they'd hire (like, maybe NOT a barmaid)?

Shoshanna said...

Not watching!

Maggie said...

It is interesting, we have a lot of the history of the Gosselin saga here, and all our mods know a lot of history before the blog was started. I think we go back before any blog that is still relevant.

We have had over 13 million hits here. I could run a timeline of the G's out without even thinking about it.

I will be interested to see the show, but I doubt they have a clue. I think it will be more false stories and not a real expose. Kate's P.R. person Julie May will spin this as she always does.

Just one moderators opinion, but I will be surprised if this show goes beyond the surface of research that anyone can pick up in a couple of days.

Why is Mommy Orange? said...

Not watching.

Momof2 said...

The BEST thing Werny Gal could've done for the kids is tell the truth...then maybe they'll get set free. She's doing the same thing everyone else in Kate's camp is doing...acting like Kate is super Mom, overworked and over tired.

I have read her blog from time to time but I don't like people who talk out of both sides of their face.

Money changes everything.

Exhausted said...

We keep waiting for Kate to get what's coming to her. For example, on the Today Show, Matt Lauer ripped into Tom Cruise, so they'll definitely grill Kate on the same show. Doesn't happen. Kid gloves. Then she beats her child in public with pictures to document it, and no one even asks her about it. The View slams The Jersey Shore cast (who might be sleazy, but they're not ruining any childhoods), yet Kate goes on there, and they are basically polite.

I have no doubt this E! piece will pussyfoot around the big issues and keep having statements from "friends" of how Kate comes off as rude, but she's really just a mother bear for those kids. BS that Kate and her people had no connection to this piece. They were powerful enough to make Whoopi stop talking about Kate in mid-sentence, so I think all these companies wash each other's hands. If it was going to be a horrible expose, it would be advertised as such. And if it were truly damaging to Kate, it would be shut down.

I call it along with the rest of you that all this piece will do is to make people think about Kate again. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to re-package Twist of Crap after this or put out another book by her. Kate will only get what what deserves when no E! THS and no articles about her exit.

Is He Still Puking? said...

I doubt that the kids could read or see anything about her that they don't already know and then some. She wrote a book about her kids dealing with a very painful divorce and published private letters that she had written to them that were not exactly complimentary. Thankfully, it bombed. She not only allows but encourages them (look look) to be filmed at their worst sick and lying in their own vomit. Is he still puking? How can anyone else protect the kids when their own mother doesn't.

BasementDweller said...

MomOf2, I agree with you. It seems to me that WernyGirl kind of sold out...she could have blasted Katie Irene.

Kharma said...

I hope so badly that someone is doing an investigation about her and Steve. Can you imagine when (not if) WHEN we get the picture of her kissing or holding hands with Steve, how it will add to her list of 'horrific' qualities? She would then be a homewrecker on top of all else. Anyone who thinks nothing is going on has most definitely just fallen off the turnip truck! For goodness sake they match their clothing!

Does anyone know if they sleep in the same hotel room when they "travel for business?" Part of my lack of respect for Kate is her obvious belief that the majority of Americans are idiots who will believe whatever she tells us. Poor kids, it must be so hard for them to see Steve replacing their dad and the things he used to do for them regularly. Sad.

Gag me said...

Oh great. Another "poor Kate" show. I was just thinking the other day it's about time for her to try to desperately put herself in the limelight again. She's just not getting enough attention lately. Not watching.

Khateless in Philly said...

Will not be giving anyone the ratings, especially Khate!

Coming Out Party said...

Anyone who thinks nothing is going on has most definitely just fallen off the turnip truck! For goodness sake they match their clothing!

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So because they "match" clothing, they are having an affair? That kind of proof would get laughed right out of a court of law! I guess I fell off the turnip truck. I don't think that there's anything going on, not that she wouldn't want there to be. What I would be curious about is when her stint with TLC ends and he heads off to another job, is she going to be able to handle life without him. Who is going to protect her from herself?

What happened to all of the bloggers who swore up and down that in Australia, the two of them were "coming out" as a couple, and that was the reason Kate was meeting his parents? It never happened. There were also those who absolutely knew that Kate and Jon's divorce was staged for publicity only, and that the two of them would reconcile, thus getting big ratings for TLC. That never happened either, although it did generate speculation for some time.

So DONE with KON said...

Add me to the list of folks who won't be watching. I am curious though, what it will reveal; however, I'm fairly certain it will be the same ol', same ol' 'Kate is great' blah, blah, blah. It's interesting that she has been keeping such a low profile this past week. Fingers and toes crossed that the low profile is permanent. Enough of her!

Button Button said...

Kate's fans admire her for being a working mom, having a lot of kids, managing a household and basically doing it all, when it's very hard even for the average mom to do it," Polly Kahl tells E!. She's the author of "Jon & Kate Plus Eight: Reality TV & The Selling Of The Gosselins."

It doesn't sound like a bashfest to me!!
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You may be right. However, speculating is just speculating. Hopefully, she will be shown just for what she is...a "taker."

Jane in CA said...

I agree with those that seriously doubt this show will be anything but a fluff piece, with perhaps some minor inclusion about Kate's "bossiness". Kate is not a Hollywood story, so I think TLC pulled strings to get this made to begin with. They can maneuver all they want, and try to paint her as a "real mom" or a "single mom struggling to raise her kids" but most people know it's complete nonsense. They only fool those who want to believe their own crappy parenting is a-okay, because if Kate does it, it must be fine.

It will also appeal to those who would eagerly sell out their families for money, just like Kate.

Kate just isn't likable. That's because she doesn't like most people, except perhaps Steve. This is especially true re women. When Kate was visiting Sarah Palin, she could barely stand to look her in the eye, and I noticed that she had trouble doing more than speak a sentence or two with her.

There is no way that Kate can carry a show by herself because she has nothing but contempt for her audience, and she herself is contemptible.

Be glad to have quiet in the neighborhood said...

I do believe that Kate could not wait for the divorce and for Jon to leave. What she did not realize was that the Show Would NOT Continue to Go On Forever.

She was not very smart in her decisions to throw out the father of her children to have Steve replace him, not understanding that those children needed their father, no matter what she thought of Jon.

Hope they do depict all of this.

There is so much more than Kate and Jon could not get along, etc.

I do believe that Kate's entire change in appearance and strutting around in bikinis, etc., is all from Steve. He reconstructed her, he also thinking there was a way of recreating her. Problem? The children got in their way. Everyone thought the children would stay in the basement, but they grow up and with small children, we have small problems, like keeping the kids in cribs for 3 to 4 hrs in the afternoon naps to big children and big problems like fighting in school and "not aware that they have to learn to socialize" which their mother forgot to do.

Shame on her and also Steve

N.E. Psychologist said...

I find it very disheartening that anyone finds it necessary to give her more publicity.

Barbra, I'll gladly send you more virtual whiskey but NOT with the intent of getting you to watch E!

Kat said...

As far as her and Steve together....Come on, she herself said there is someone in the background. Who else could it be other than Steve, nobody is ever around except him.

Kharma said...

So "Coming out Party," would the behavior these 2 display make you a bit suspicious if it were your husband "guarding" Kate? It's a matter of judgement and appropriateness. There are feelings involved here. Steve has kids and a wife. How must she feel regarding their very close relationship. The 2 are being insensative and selfish. Their working relationship has crossed the professional boundary.I can imagine that Steve's and Kate's kids are probably dealing with these same kinds of questions. All I'm saying is make an effort NOT to look like a couple for the sake of the other people involved in this saga. People praise them for "not caring what everyone says or thinks." Well sometimes at least considering other people's perception of oneself can be enlightening.

readerlady said...

I don't know if Khate and Steve are fornicating or not. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter. The Bible, and my faith, teaches that the appearance of sin is as serious as the commission of sin. If Khate were truly the Bible believing, Bible living person she tried to present herself as being, she would have gotten a new boobyguard the first time Jon raised the question.

I don't agree that the THS show will be a fluff piece with all praise for Khate. I've watched some of them - granted, not all -and found them to be pretty even-handed. They let the chips fall where they may. They also have a very good reputation for being fair and honest, unlike some other shows which shall remain nameless. We'll find out for sure later this evening LOL.

Re Werny Gal's comment - she never said SHE thought Khate was a great mother who was doing it all, etc. She said Khate's FANS think that way about her. BIG difference.

Chelle said...

*Snort* Isn't E! where stars go to die? All I can think of is "Along Came Polly" with the guy who was making his on True Hollywood Story and E! didn't even know he was making it.

sick of it said...

Here's the deal....there is no way in any shape or form that Kate and Steve being together for as long as they have are not "involved". I am going to watch this program tonight and then I am going to voice my opinion to anyone who will listen. I am so tired of this woman and her "spin" that I really can't stand it. This program may bring to light that "just maybe" there might be another way of looking at her and what she is doing to her children. I don't usually post on this site .....but I do read and I do listen !!!!

PattyWithNoPity said...

All old news and re-hashed..won't be wasting time and giving Katie Irene the ratings...

K8STFU said...

I was a bit put off when WG seemed to suddenly "play fair" with regards to her comments for E!. I will watch the E!segment for a couple reasons : I have watched many of them and found them to be very interesting, and I also am very curious to see if this could finally be "the one" to air the truth about K8.

On the other hand, I am VERY bothered by WG's publishing a book on the Gosselins. If she declared that she would give every penny of profit to Paul Petersen's or Rep Murt's efforts, I wouldn't find it so hypocritical. After everything that has happened and been discussed , it's pretty clear that all of us feel that NOBODY should make $$ of those poor kids. I am honestly baffled and disappointed that WG doesn't see it that way.

Babsie said...

I wont be surprised if lots of bad stuff comes out. That is what kate and TLC want! The hooker clothes, the trips with purseboy are all to keep people talking about Kate! How many people will truly remember Table for Twelve? Probably not many just because they were too normal. Normal doesn't sell! Norml is what we see around our own kitchen tables. My guess is they will show just enough to expose how crazy Kate is, but not enough to have Child Services called

mrspxyz said...

I am watching. Did you all have a monetary blackout when they were taking about where the new house was and the screen went black? Maybe it was my cable server but the screen was black for quite a few minutes.

Buzzmaam said...

I am not watching. I hope it has low ratings.

Not an E fan said...

It was a total piece of crap. WG needs to apologize to anyone who wasted their time with her or who bought her lousy book. This has Kates PR written all over it. It's total fluff. I'm sorry I watched.

When is someone going to publish the truth?

Shoka's Understudy said...

The last picture that was shown of kate and the kids was when she had on the dark grey gladiator hooker sandals and they were walking in the parking lot.

The dr. said that kate was on 8 weeks of bedrest. So kate is busted there.

A reporter for Channel 27 said that kate was misquoted about her saying that society owed her state help and kate was explaining how she would never say it.

Very disappointed in Eric Roberts. Total 180 from what he said when he was talking about kate and her being an abuser. Why didn't you say she was an child abuser, Eric? TLC must be bankrolling his new movie when he makes it.

They blamed the divorce for the media crunch, they forgot to mention that kate initiated the divorce with Jon making him sign a non-disclosure contract, have all the girlfriends you want, just show up for filming.

I wonder if TLC made this E! happen and just let little things get out, things they could easily spin.

They did not show her denying Mady water, Joel on the Laundry Room Floor, but they did show Leah getting beaten in the driveway and it was no big deal, kate was shown on the Today show again, talking about that.

It was just really hard to watch. They showed Tony and kate and they didn't even mention what a jackwagon she was, they didn't even show her whining, I'm done, I'm done.

I'm done. with. kate.

CheckUpfromthe NeckUp said...

I watched. Only a few blurbs about her estranged family, and not much of a mention about the old "Silver Fox."It was pretty fair. It didn't really paint Kate in the best light. It was quite sad to see how the family used to be. Once a cute, adorable little family. It's sad to see how fame and greed has affected Kate.I recall really liking her very early on. I really did admire her. I sincerely hope she can turn things around for the sake of those precious little babies of hers... It's not too late to do the right thing.

Fluff, Fluff, and More Fluff said...

It was nothing but fluff...a total waste of time. The funniest thing was showing photos of Nana Joan and her husband, saying it was Kenton and Charlene Kreider!

Kate's obstetrician confirmed that she was on bedrest for EIGHT WEEKS! Sorry, Kate, you've been outed. No more "woe is me, I was on bedrest for 30 weeks," or whatever it was!

Frequent visitor said...

For those that follow the Gosselin saga regularly this E THS was nothing more than Gosselins 101. In all truth it was Jon's story as much as Kate's and should have been called Jon and Kate Plus 8 THS.

I was glad that they didn't totally blast Jon. They made the affairs sound unconfirmed or as speculation ... not necessarily proven fact. They did say he denied an affair with that Stefanie Santoro nanny.

Truth be told, they did a half hour special on Jon and Kate's marriage in crisis back during spring/summer 09 at the height of the drama. Most of the interviews and footage was from that original airing. I believe that only a little bit of the footage was newly recorded information.

What I did find interesting was some of the local news channels archive interviews with them back when the sextuplets were born. You could see minute traces of Kate's over-emoting and narcissistic personality traits. Yet they were so different and much more innocent back then...I guess fame really did awaken a beast within her that had lied somewhat dormant all those years. The changes in her both phyical appearance and personality were never so obvious when shown in that one hour.

Oh Well said...

That was certainly an hour of my life I wish I had spent doing something more productive.

we'll see said...

What happened to all of the bloggers who swore up and down that in Australia, the two of them were "coming out" as a couple, and that was the reason Kate was meeting his parents? It never happened. There were also those who absolutely knew that Kate and Jon's divorce was staged for publicity only, and that the two of them would reconcile, thus getting big ratings for TLC. That never happened either, although it did generate speculation for some time.
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don't count it out yet. the big stories always come out right before the shows air. if they came out as a couple, look for it to happen right before the Australia show airs so the public would tune in to see the big event. I still think they will just keep slinking around until Gina or someone gets sick of it and talks.

Laura said...

I watched. What a boring hour. This was a simple K8 overview for anyone who hasn't been on planet Earth for the past 5 years.
They didn't paint her in a good light but they didn't really tell much of the story.
BOORING.

CityGirl said...

What was the whole point of the THS? make kate look bad? Jon? Make kate look good? WHAT! That was the strangest thing ever. Even til the end, I did not "GET" the it. I'm confused as to the motive behind this. Maybe an announcement is coming that kate is in rehab!

Snow Globe said...

Shoka said,
They blamed the divorce for the media crunch, they forgot to mention that kate initiated the divorce with Jon making him sign a non-disclosure contract, have all the girlfriends you want, just show up for filming.

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Probably because that never was confirmed or proven. It was speculation, making its rounds as internet gossip. To do so would have opened them up to a lawsuit.

Reading Observer said...

Werny Gal was such a farce, all this time, just stalking kate and for what? To write a book, to repeat what we all assumed, our opinions. She never interviewed Kate or John or any nanny connected with that Gosselin clan. What a disappointment. She tried, but wow, what a fiasco that was.

The only person who made sense? Paul Peterson and his work, his hoping that we, the public, are king to the children later in life when they have problems. He did bring up the expulsion of the tups by someone very close to the school. So, he is on top of these kids and their treatment, their lack of family, their sadness and their hard work and it is work.

I do not know why Eric roberts became "friends and pals"

Sidney said...

Fluff, Fluff, and More Fluff said...
It was nothing but fluff...a total waste of time. The funniest thing was showing photos of Nana Joan and her husband, saying it was Kenton and Charlene Kreider
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When they got the parents wrong, I knew they had not done their homework. It really said nothing new and it showed Jon in his red Ed Hardy jacket a few dozen times.

Nothing new. Same old crap. I think it was more in favor of Kate than Jon, but really amounted to nothing.

Sharla said...

I'm having to swiffer arguments again. If you want your comments to stand, then state them as opinions and don't engage in arguments.

CheckUpfromtheNeckUp said...

Uhhh why was Eric Roberts interviewed? That was just bizarre. He just mumbled a couple of obscure things????

Shoka's Understudy said...

I twittered Eric Roberts, EricRobertsER, and told him:

Why didn't you say what you said recently about kate's abuse of the kids on the E! special? I am disappointed.

I hope he reads it.

When is the child custody hearing? I know it is this month.

It was funny kate's dr. said she was on 8 weeks bedrest. What happened to the other 22? Was she sitting in her white plastic throne trolling the internet for freebies?

They said on E! that they had the twins and THEN she had fertility treatments and had 6. IMO, She was wanting at least 8 to tie the McCalley babies and 9 would of been magnificent! Jon had to get a job as a sub for 50 dollars a day. How did they pay for the fertility treatments? Also, I thought was funny that they showed a trailer park, when it was actually a campground that her family owned.

Then they showed Nana and her husband saying they were Mr. and Mrs. Kreider.

They should of refrained from showing the kids school. They showed it several times.

Did a young man, neighbor in Etown say, men would stop in their cars and get out and take pictures of the kids.

Did interns put this mess together?

Heide said...

I'm not sure what I think of Werney Gal, but to be fair, she did not get paid for the E interview she gave.

The Kate Khronicles said...

They said on E! that they had the twins and THEN she had fertility treatments and had 6.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It was explained that Kate had fertility treatments after six months of marriage because she was diagnosed with PCOS. They also explained that those treatments resulted in the birth of the twins. She said that she wanted more children and so she had more fertility treatments that resulted in the birth of the tups.

I Tuned In said...

I didn't even know the show was going to be on, but happened to find it and watched. It was very odd, and I kept trying to get what the show was about.

At least they did make Kate look bad in the first half. The second half it seems they switched to badmouthing Jon.

However, my take on that is Kate was Kate in the early years before she was coached to cry in public about the heartaches of single motherhood. Harder to hide the truth when Kate let it be so obvious what her motives were.

The tone probably changed when they got to the divorce because what we know about Jon is mainly rumors. All the show had to go on was what Team Kate is telling us. It will be a cold day in you know where before Kate, Stevie Boy, and TLC ever let anything positive about Jon be in the media ever again.

I noticed the lack of real interviews. Quite obvious how they have shut everyone up. Have they finally paid Aunt Jodie off too? In the old days, this seems like an interview she could have provided some insight for.

Does anyone know why Jon's girlfriend/nanny was allowed to do the interview? I would have assumed all their nannies would have signed contracts to keep quiet.

Leigh Ann said...

t was funny kate's dr. said she was on 8 weeks bedrest. What happened to the other 22? Was she sitting in her white plastic throne trolling the internet for freebies?
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I noticed that. He said something like "eight weeks of strict bedrest". There's bedrest where you can get up and use the bathroom and then there's the type where you have a bed pan and can't get up even if there's a fire. So I imagine the last eight weeks was the strict kind. When my cousin lost one of her (naturally conceived) triplets she was on strict bedrest in the hospital with the bed tipped backward a bit.

lindahoyt said...

I was surprised by the show. They did not explain or expose anything. It left out all controversy, except the abuse of Leah, which they glossed over. Little Leah wasn't misbehaving, her mother was. Grabbing a child up by the front of the dress and hitting her, was a release of frustration, not an act of discipline. If Kate had done that to the producer of the show, she would be in jail. Why should she get away with it, merely because she gave birth to her victim? And why would a show, whose premise it is to expose the story behind the headlines, not do so? Why no interviews with the photogs who took the pictures, why no airing of the video?


But, other than that one story, the show did not even touch most Gosselin controversies. They did not address the selfishness of Kate, in denying Maddie water; didn't discuss the abusive displays on the show; "gumgate", "cupcakegate", laying sick children on the laundryroom floor, ignoring a constipated child to shop, ignoring them while "camping" with the Palin family, the list is endless, but they showed nothing! They did not expose the fact that Kate cut all family members out of the kids' lives. They didn't show how her mother had kept the twins for months before the tups were born, and was rewarded by being cut completely out of all their lives, and being slandered and insulted by Kate on TV! They didn't address the fact that Jon's father bought their first house, and supported them with an inheritance after he died. Nor did they address the defamation by slander and libel, against Jon's former boss, who they insisted "fired" Jon because of the insurance on their 6 babies. At a minimum, they should have given the former boss equal time to dispute this lie they told around the country! The show didn't talk about Kate expecting the public to continue to pay for her nurse, but spun the "controversy" into to a misquote by Kate!

lindahoyt said...

The biggest most important missing element of last night's show, was the complete absence of the book "Multiple Blessings"! They showed "Eight little faces" and pretended that this was the book that made Kate famous. How silly. Kate's treatment of Beth is one of the most revealing aspects of Kate Gosselin! The fact that Kate did not write the book, yet she promoted it as if she did write it herself; and then Kate goes on to insult and smear the good name of the real author, through total dismissal, innuendo, side glances and deceptive "no comments". When asked about her former "best friend" Kate, as she does about all her discarded relatives and former family friends, goes on to make vague statements such as, "people are jealous and leave". Most of the time she doesn't flat out lie, but she deceives and slanders those people through her dismissive statements and actions. Kate does all of this to garner attention to herself--and no one else: that is Kate Gosselin! THAT is the true story!

E! had a real opportunity to expose the true pattern of Kate's life, which is to use people to get what she wants, then completely cut them out of her life. It has happened over and over in her life. Jon was merely the latest victim. And she is still striving to cut him completely out- frustrating for her that the law gives fathers rights to their children! Some day she will cut out the kids. She needs them now, but when they grow up and try to live their own lives, or if they misbehave she will (and has) present herself as a victim of their "cruelty". I can hear it now, "I gave my whole life for those kids, and they are so mean to me...I am all alone and friendless".

I am sad about this special, because perhaps they could have done some good in exposing the true self-centered Kate. Exposing her pattern would have made it more difficult for her to continue to use the same old tactics. Instead of telling the "true hollywood story" they gave a peek at some 'personal failings' and winked at child abuse. I had high hopes, but was sorely disappointed.

Brummygirl said...

All I can say according to your posts, is that I knew it would play out this way.
Let's face it, Kate is not going anywhere, any time soon. I will pick this up from somewhere, but it sounds as if it was a waste of time airing this show. What was the purpose and how good are their investigators?
More important, what were the ratings?

The Teflon Don? said...

Whoever decides to do a REAL TRUE story about Kate will definitely achieve ratings gold. I'm almost sad that I don't know the first thing about producing otherwise I would do it. I would completely leave images of the kids out of it and focus solely on Kate and Jon. I feel that if the entire story is told, Jon will be ultimatley viewed as a loving, caring father who happens to be a little weak. I would have plenty to go on from that alone. I feel that Kate should be on the Forbes list for "One of TVs Most Powerful Women," because clearly people are afraid to mess with her. She has people in the palm of her hands. She must have some sort of death stare that forces people like TLC execs to cowar to her and give her what she wants. I mean, they still keep her around when they're not even making money off her anymore due to low ratings. I can't imagine that she is a pleasant business partner to work with. What's with their infatuation with her? TLC The Lapdog Company?

BasementDweller said...

Glad I didn't watch the show. Seems like they didn't touch upon the issues at all. Like I said, glad I didn't watch.

Shoka's Understudy said...

Wow, lindahoyt, you should of been the script writer, producer and director of the E! special on kate the grifter.

Your post were great!

The show was ridiculous. Very disappointed too. It makes me wonder if TLC had a hand in having it custom made, sanitized for the sheeple viewing pleasure.

They should of interviewed more of Paul Peterson, Sen. Muir about the Gosselin Bill and WHY they are having to draft and pass a law, Eric Roberts should of said what he said previously about kate, All the kid gates, the boat ride with no life jackets, kate in a pyschotic episode when she was blasting Colin about his lovey bear.

I couldn't believe they had a parking space just for her! She actually went to the manager and got them to remove whoever parked there.

If that were me, I would of parked there, (if kate didn't catch me) went into Giant and would of shopped for my groceries and just softly giggle (don't want to blow my cover) when they would announce over the intercom, "would the owner of the 1995 Mercury Sable please move your car". I would take my time and get my things and get to the register, pay for my things and while I am getting my receipt, I would see kate spasming out at the customer service desk, while I push my groceries out to my car and load my car up and leave and laugh out loud!

That would be fun! Now, if she had all the babies with her, I wouldn't do it, but they only showed her with Jon in the store. She loves every single minute away from those kids, so that shouldn't be a problem.

Like I have always said, she is despicable!

Sunrise, Sunset said...

They should of interviewed more of Paul Peterson, Sen. Muir about the Gosselin Bill and WHY they are having to draft and pass a law, Eric Roberts should of said what he said previously about kate, All the kid gates, the boat ride with no life jackets, kate in a pyschotic episode when she was blasting Colin about his lovey bear.

^^^^^^^^^^^

They should have exposed many things, but this was only an HOUR show! To cover the events and misdeeds in her life would require a two-hour, two-night special!

In addition, I think they had to be very, very careful about what they reported and how it was reported. Any mis-information, unconfirmed reports, extreme attacks could very well have set them up for a slander lawsuit. You better believe that attorneys for all parties were watching this and taking notes.

Monster Mommy said...

E! Channel has been known to extend their "True Hollywood Story" specials to TWO hours, when covering certain controversial 'subjects'.

I think Kate Gosselin required an additional hour (at the very least), in order to expose the REAL truth... and uncover the sheath- so to speak.

They didn't mention why Kate and one time fiance, Adam Miller abruptly split on her 21st birthday, after years together either. (Kate reportedly cheated on Adam on this day. Another clear case of Kate trying to "trade up".)
They also never mentioned the other two books-- one being of extreme importance in this unfortunate story. Multiple Blessings, and the Beth Carson truth is/was a complete sham. In fact, "Letters to my Mini ATMs"- another (very poorly written I've heard) sham.

Polly Kahl, child advocates/actors Eric Roberts, and Paul Petersen (and yes, even you- *Mr. Salty*, Al Walentis)... all gave stellar interviews, and came off perhaps even a bit too forgiving and kind-- considering what this woman has done to her kids! Overall, the tone was not a positive one, in terms of how Kate is perceived by the media... and most importantly, the American public.

Self-Prescribed Bedrest said...

I am thinking she put her own lazy self on bedrest from the moment she learned she had her even number, Asian HOM's, as she alludes in MB that she laid on the couch and cried all day, while poor little Cara and Mady comforted her, that the babies would be okay, and waited on her hand and foot. Ughhhhh.....

Barbra said...

This 'show' (use this word tongue in cheek) was exactly what the title touted...with the most important words being 'Hollywood STORY'. That is what this was, a Hollywood STORY, not as located in Hollywood, but as a theatrically Hollywood VERSION of the Gosselin STORY.

It was done without thorough checking of details (like the pic of kate's parents which was actually of one of the fake nanas), omitting details (like most of her stellar moments, going over brochures for extended period of time while child cries in pain with impacted bowel), her traipsing around in disgusting apparell, her traipsing around with her bodyguard (also known as boyfriend), her lying out of both sides of her mouth (I'm broke/Jon stole money, we haven't earned enough to support us/can't quit, to I'm a great catch/rich, and on and on).

We all KNOW that she doesn't PAY for all the freebies she gets - tlc pays for it all - WITH MONEY EARNED OFF THE KIDS. How do ya like that Katie Irene, after you stated bluntly that 'no one makes money off of my kids'.

So, we may not have gotten exactly the show we wanted or hoped for, but she sure as hell got a show that showed her in a very bad light. She came across as very manipulative, demanding, domineering, self-entitled, rude, arrogant, and most of all, the ultimate UGLY in pretty paint.

Tami said...

Does anyone know why Jon's girlfriend/nanny was allowed to do the interview? I would have assumed all their nannies would have signed contracts to keep quiet.
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I doubt Jon cared about that stuff and am sure Kate and co. WANTED her not to sign one! They seem to have paid her and her mother off to orchestrate the appearance of an illicit affair and then blab all over the babloids about it. I will always believe the whole nannygate thing was a fraud.

Amy too said...

Some of us are disappointed because we know most of what was said last night, but we wanted the worse things about Kate also exposed.

Legally, the station "dropped" tidbits. Even showing Kate as frumpy and then looking like a hooker many times was pretty good. My husband said she had chin implant, fillers in her cheeks and had her face changed. He is a plastic surgeon. He agreed that the ovalness of her breasts were not "her own breasts".

Her greed was magnified by the show. Her ill treatment of her husband magnified. He was allowed to say he lived about the garage. His friend did speak for him. The Nanny did say that Kate was mean and had a bad temper and that everything had to be her way, everything.

She stalked her boyfriend. That was very telling about her personality.

She did grift, she was particular about handouts, had to be her way, her taste.

She sold her children for $$$, fame, free stuff, trips, vacations, first class passage, etc.

She danced with the devil and it has cost her the lives of her children.

Paul Peterson said he received "first hand knowledge about the children being expelled and was not surprised"......so he would that be? Jon calling him?

I loved it because it did "touch on Kate and her Bodyguard" but they couldn't go too far with that. Yet we saw so much of him on camera.

A question I have for bodyguards, does being a bodyguard mean you stay so close that "you can throw your body on someone" and also does it mean you carry the beach umbrellas and buckets from the dock to the Ferry? I thought that would be the Butler! Maybe Steve is the Butler.

It was a good show, WG needs a hair cut but she did good, Al did, but why was Eric Roberts in it? He is an addict and because he understands as Kate is a $$$ addict?

Believe half of what I see said...

It did not make Kate look good. She looked ugly.

Ugly is as Ugly does and look what she is doing to her children, that came across loud and clear:

No laws
No hours
No Money
No childhood
Need Laws
Need a childhood
No future except "owned" by TLC and their mother's bank account.

Bet she won't be co hosting anytime soon nor will she be interviewed about these statements.

Oh the bedrest for 8 weeks.

Wish the hell Whoopi was interviewing her after that one.

So Kate stalked her boyfriend. LOL LOL That is why she grabbed Jon, poor immature, inexperienced Jon, look what happened when he met the Devil, she destroyed his life. What a sad, sad saga.

It is called LIFE

anotherthing... said...

Well, glad I didnt watch. Thanks for the recap, though.

It does seem as though, from what you all posted, that E! kind of let this opportunity pass them by.

From the most very basic of interviews/work (neighbors, former coworkers, DWTS footage, proper investigative work) this could have been a fantastic show.

It could have been something to make people think. It could have been the thing that drives people to get this type of show cancelled. To draw attention to what this type of "mom" is and to save these kids and others in their situation now or in the future.

But E! just flat out didnt make it happen. WE could have put together a better 'True' story of her using segments out there in 'internet-world'. More revealing and more accurate.

Dissapointing. Oh, what could have been...

WonderButton said...

I, too, was a bit disappointed with the THS episode. I think the best footage they showed (more than once) was the camera crew and boom mics following the kids around taping. That looked surreal, and poor kids, with cameras and mics in their faces. How is that real life? Even a voice over by Peterson said something like "Cameras change normal interactions" (or something to that effect).

But you have to think - we long-time gwoppers have had our eyes opened long ago. For someone who is new to the REAL story, this episode probably would have gotten some wheels turning, and maybe get them doing some google-searches to find the truth.

To the producers' credit, I don't recall them rehashing the lie that Jon took all the money. And one of Jon's "lady friends" said that she was attracted to him because he was a GREAT FATHER. No one said anything about Kate being a good mom.

Yes, there was alot unsaid. And sometimes, it's silence that speaks the loudest.

WonderButton said...

Just a thought about why hasn't anyone brokend those darned confidentiality agreements......

There was just a story out that someone connected to the CBS Survivor show is getting sued 5 million for posting the winners for 2 seasons to some blog. If that figure is industry standard, no wonder everyone is keeping their mouths shut. Does anybody know what the penalties for breaking one of these agreements is?

SmileyGrl752 said...

I think this THS will be horrible for Kate. She refused to comment.

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Why did she refuse to comment? She obviously loves being on TV and "setting the record straight".

Hate my bad feelings about kate said...

Something that was very important and I believe Al Walentis said was that Kate believes she has to grab and grab and grab while she can.

He also elaborated about her definite selection of what was to be given to her.

The woman who represented a midwestern parent's magazine flew Kate first class, first class lodging and Kate had no interest in meeting the woman, who all paid a lot of money to attend and Kate did not stay to autograph photos, but had presigned photos sold for an additional $20.

Those women and the Magazine never watched another show nor did the another article re: Kate ever get printed.

Kate has burned a lot of bridges. A lot of bridges.

Could someone tell Steve that the Purple shirt he continually wears is not a Bodyguard uniform and he should try to always coordinate with that terrible witch he manages.

Be glad to have quiet in the neighborhood said...

For me, the whole show made Kate and Jon look very bad.

Why did Jon leave, just leave, did he have a nervous breakdown?

She never loved him and it is terrible that she used him the way she did.

Yes, she will go down in TV History but not because she was a Mrs. Cleaver. More because they children will become infamous.

The Aunt and Uncle truly love those kids. They had to see horrible, horrible things to pull out of that show. I just wish they will tell more.

Even Paul Peterson said he talked to closer family members and was shocked about what was going on.

Hope the sextuplets sneek in her room and steal all the wine and saki and empty everything down the drain.

What lawyers she must have that she has custody.

Disappointed said...

WG disappointed me. She has now written a book based on posts, magazine articles, notes from the State Hearings, web sites, this blog.

That is very sad to me. Why would she do that....she is no better than Kate.

mama san said...

watched the re-run of ETHS. I listened carefully having read comments. Well, there were digs at Kate. how about
". . . Kate was as graceful as an elephant on the dance floor." To clear up matters a little -- Jon stated on TV that the reason Ms Hummel was driving his car was that he felt too intoxicated.
But the show was not a True story, so shame on you Ken Baker.

1momski said...

Disappointed said...
"WG disappointed me. She has now written a book based on posts, magazine articles, notes from the State Hearings, web sites, this blog."

Yep, and no better than Chris, the Pap. Just another bottom feeder living off the Gosselin children.
I for one would never buy a book that exploited this.

Kat said...

this is too funny... INFDaily has pics of Kate, take a look at the
6th image it appears to be a pic of one leg wearing a loafer type shoe? Could that be Steve hanging on the back of the van. LoL

BasementDweller said...

I'm apologizing for my earlier comment...I watched THS last evening and Kate absolutely was not painted in a good light. (How exciting and unusual...)And, WernyGal did a very good job I thought. Earlier I said I was disappointed in her. My apologies to everyone!

I was disappointed that they didn't explain that it was Katie Irene's idea to split with Jon. That should have been cleared up if it was a "true" (Hollywood)story. It still painted him in a bad light.

Stephanie Santoro really stepped up to the plate, IMO. Not that that absolves her from all the damage she had done. IMO, her affair with Jon was made up to damage his public image.

Yolanda said...

Did you notice they didn't show ONE scene from the show itself? At least as far as I can remember...not one scene. So that means TLC didn't given them permission to show a scene, or they would have (in my opinion anyway).

So all the "gate" scenes couldn't be shown.

Also, I think the reason the nanny was allowed to talk was because she didn't sign an agreement in the first place.

What frustrated me was every time they DID show something negative, they showed a Kate interview where she negated it. For example, her quote about "society's responsibility" was shown, but then they turned around and showed a scene where she disputed saying it!

But all in all, I think there was a lot of negative stuff there...and for people who don't keep up on Kate, they may have learned a few things they didn't know before. And hopefully they won't be so interested in watching Kate's show.

One can only hope.

just wondering said...

I'm proud of Polly for speaking up both in this program and in her book. Do you think she is going to become some sort of millionaire from this small book? She is taking a chance in speaking out about something that she (along with all of US) feels is hurting the Gosselin kids.

If I knew how to write well enough and had access to information known only to locals I would have written one myself nearly two years ago.

I applaud Polly for her very personal efforts in trying to bring national attention to the topic.

CakeIsGreat said...

This was a softball story as far as I'm concerned. They touched on some real issues, but moved on quickly without going too deep. I did appreciate the constant references to the show being staged. That story about fake Christmas was told. Also it was said 15% of the money now has to be put aside... for all 8 children. So that is less than 2% each, but Kate flies first class and charges $20 for photos. That 15%/ less than 2% will not cover the future therapy bills. I don't mean that to be a punchline.

Stephanie was more impressive than Polly, imo. She stated the kids have no choice in filming, that one day they will realize all of their trips were working vacations and they're parents didn't take them to Disneyworld for the sake of spending time with them their, but for an episode. Polly seemed to play both sides of the fence more. Of course the GWOP Modsm& us posters could have said all of that and put together a better show. Showing a picture of "Kates parents", but were really Nana Joan & husband was beyond sloppy and made them lose a lot credibility.

Eric Roberts was hands down the most disappointing. What was that? He did a complete 180. I had heard though he has a lot of issues, and will do almost anything for some spotlight. I don't think he and Julia have much of a relationship b/c of it, that Emma is closer to her aunt than him. Don't know how true it is, but perhaps it is and Eric was bought off to be on the show.

Paul Peterson was the consistent one. I wish he could have produced a special or been interviewed more. He said he has first hand accounts of what went on in the school. Perhaps E! didn't want to go that deep into what happened and thats why he didn't elaborate. Or maybe he didn't want to damage those childrens reputations further and thats why he didn't give more details. I hope he doesn't give up on his work. He could be the best chance of stopping this freak show/getting them help.

All and all though, I do think it was the most honest special yet. Not that that is saying much.

CakeIsGreat said...

Oh one other thing I didn't like about the THS, they used the TLC company BS schitck that Kate brought the ratings to DWTS. If that were true, wouldn't she have lasted more than 4 weeks? The reason DWTS beat Idol in the ratings, is because Idol had yet another lack-luster season and hasn't made a star in a while. It wasn't because the Stah Quality of Kate. Not at all. The ratings would have went down if it were really true, that didn't, and hasn't happened. I bet Kate-less DWTS will beat Idol again this year, if Idol continues its downfall.

Racermom281 said...

When a celebrity get's a "ETHS", when they do press for it, they seemed very excited. For good reason, they are always interviewed and part of the whole show. So, either she wasn't asked to be on it, or she refused to do so. We all know how she like's her face on tv, so I can only conclude that she wasn't asked. I'm pretty much housebound, so I watch a lot of TV. I've seen so many of these THS's, and in recent memory (if it's working today lol) I think maybe Angelina Jolie may be one of the few who wasn't involved in her story.
I loved it when Dennis Owens, our local whtm cannel 27 anchor, whom everybody love's around here, made the statement about how it went from reality show to freak show in 4 seconds. I honestly feel it didn't paint her as a wonderful mother and wife, it showed more of her greedy side.
And come on, am I the only one while watching the tidbits of early morning interviews she give's when she's crying poor mouth how calm and stupid she is? Can anybody say Valium, Adavain, etc. that is NOT her, she is sqealy, shrieky, and over all makes my ear's want to bleed.
One last thing that still really chaps my hide is when she went on Today for the whole "I have bills in my purse I can't pay, when I told the kid's no more filiming, there were times 8 sobbing and wailing, etc. etc. and that they are so upset that they can't go to the Statue of Liberty as planned for the show." Why in God's name does everything she does with those kiddos HAVE to be filimed? If they were that upset, she should have given up fancy lunches, dinners, nails and tanning for a week, and there you go....money to take the kids's someplace they wanted to go. But not Kate, it's not about her kids', it's about her. Anybody old enough to remember the Phil Donohue show? Caller's could call in and ask questions to the quests, I'd love for her to be on a show like that, so we could put her on the hot seat with her lies. When it comes to the kid's, if TLC or another company isn't paying, then it isn't happening. God forbid she would actually take a few bucks of her own money and no camera crews to do some nice outings with them. She sucks.

Not appreciative said...

If Polly makes one penny off these kids, then that is one penny too many, in my humble opinion. Just someone else using this family for profit and exploiting them further.

Jane in California said...

What I would find impressive of Polly, or anyone who writes and publishes a truth depiction of what happened/is happening to the Gosselin children, would be to hear that a majority of any profits from book sales would go into a trust fund for those children, to be split equally among them when they reach adulthood.

I'm less impressed by yet another person making a buck off these kids.

In The Neighborhood said...

"So, either she wasn't asked to be on it, or she refused to do so."

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I believe it was reported that both she and TLC were asked to comment, but declined.

"If I knew how to write well enough and had access to information known only to locals I would have written one myself nearly two years ago."

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It's curious how personal perceptions differ among people. I have access to information known only to locals, and I have a degree in journalism (having freelanced for many years). I wouldn't touch this circus with the proverbial ten foot pole.

Anyone who profits from the exploitation of these children for the purpose of revealing the "true" story surrounding this troublesome state of affairs is, as someone opined, a bottom feeder.

I would want no part of it. I'd feel like I would be picking at a scab that should be healing, but is never given the chance to do so, and therefore the sore continues to fester.

captain said...

I just read an article from Examiner online that reported on the Gosselin story on E!. It was certainly not favorable at all to Kate or John.
The reporter said that the story was not balanced and should have said the truth about them. Also, the reporter said that that no one should worry because the "stah"(my spelling), my take on the report, is getting dim and will keep doing so. Yeah. It's the most negative I've heard so far, but we know how often that changes. We can hope, can't we?

Burned Behind said...

Anybody old enough to remember the Phil Donohue show? Caller's could call in and ask questions to the quests, I'd love for her to be on a show like that, so we could put her on the hot seat with her lies.

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The calls are screened, or put on time delay. You'd never be able to put her on the hot seat. Her handlers wouldn't allow it.

so sick of her said...

Kat said: If you look at the pics of the tup with the glasses on, there is a blond woman, in back of the van. That leg probably is hers, probably one of the nannys. And Kate , did disappear for a couple of days, the last pic of her at the liquor store, her roots were showing, now they are not and her her looks to have been cut. A trip to NYC?

What the? said...

CakeIsGreat said:

All and all though, I do think it was the most honest special yet. Not that that is saying much.
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I am sorry CakeIsGreat, at first I thought the same thing as you. But the more I thought about it, the more I realized that the 'honesty' on this show was very carefully chosen. It was just another opportunity to manipulate the public perception of Khate, to make more money.

karma said...

Kate's star does appear to be fading. No more talk shows, guest hosting gigs, etc. She has proven herself too hatable and unbelievable as a caring mother, so forget any gigs as a spokesperson. The attempt at being a sexpot is laughable. She is just a miserable witch with 8 kids, no friends, no husband and no one interested in her.

Where's Waldo? said...

"If you look at the pics of the tup with the glasses on, there is a blond woman, in back of the van. That leg probably is hers, probably one of the nannys."

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I don't see it. I see a leg with a loafer standing behind the van; and one of the twins standing up in back of the van. In what photo is the blonde woman and the leg?

KatesDirtyFlintstoneFeet said...

karma said...
Kate's star does appear to be fading. No more talk shows,hosting gigs, etc. She has proven herself too hatable and unbelievable....no one interested in her.
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Be careful, fellow-bloggers! I myself thought INF DAILY was a safe site. Well, if you notice now, when you click on a picture of Kate, a pop-up appears right over the bottom of the photo for 2 of Kate's BOOKS! So she's getting a piece of the photo action there. Stop clicking! It's not just ROL anymore!

MickeyMcKean said...

I have to say that after watching the episode I was disappointed. Specifically:

1. The comment that Kate said “that society has a responsibility to help” - E! did not bother to mention that the timing of this comment was referring to when Kate was petitioning the State of PA to extend payments for a nurse, Angela Krall, to continue helping her with the babies for more than just one year. This is why the comment rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. For the record Kate lost her plea for an extension.

2. Timing of the fertility treatments for both the twins and sextuplets. I am surprised that E! did not confirm that when Kate while in high school she was obsessed with the idea of having multiples after reading a book about the McCaugheys who had received a lot of gifts from strangers after the birth of their septuplets in 1997. Had they done so they would have probably come to the conclusion that Kate immediately used fertility treatments after getting married in the hopes of having multiples even though her treatments did not follow the standard of medical care – that is the first rule of infertility treatment is to do nothing invasive for at least a year after marriage since 95% of couples trying to conceive will do so within that time frame, especially if they are young and healthy. The facts are Jon and Kate were married in June 1999, had twins in October 2000, and because a set of twins was not good enough for the media attention she craved, Kate tried for “just one more” and hit the jackpot with a six pack in 2004. As it is E! did not even acknowledge that Kate opted to change doctors between the twins and the sextuplets. Gee, I wonder why? Could it be that the first doctor was not willing to help her a second time?

3. The first book “Multiple Blessings”, written by Beth Carson and Kate Gosselin, the book that was a big seller and was on the New York Bestseller List, was not even acknowledged. Not only was it not specifically mentioned, it was briefly shown anyway. However the cover of “Eight Little Faces” was shown repeatedly since that book was written by just Kate. Whereas I was under the impression that E! had contacted/interviewed Beth Carson, I now must assume that if so, Beth Carson did not want to participate in this Gosselin episode.

4. The vow renewal episode filmed in Hawaii in August 2008 that as it turns out was a complete joke on the viewers, as well as the children themselves. Nothing was mentioned that after this episode and then the subsequent move into the big house that Jon voiced his opinion at the end of the season that he thought it was time to end the show and Kate did not when she said, “we have things to iron out”.

5. The photo of Kate’s parents which were NOT her parents. I have been advised that this error has been caught and now any time the episode is aired the photos will not be seen.

6. Even though they show film footage of Kevin and Jodi Kreider, nothing is mentioned that there is a huge family rift and there appears to be NO contact between the families, especially after Kevin and Jodi testified at the PA hearings on revising their child labor laws.

7. Even though DWTS was brought up, Kate’s alleged diva antics behind the scenes were not mentioned at all. Interesting enough, if someone is doing an expose on Kate, how can you not acknowledge that not only did she go from a Pennsylvania mom to being on DWTS where she was not willing to even attempt to learn to dance, but then also wind up being invited by Jimmy Fallon to the 2010 Emmys and participating in a joke that is about the time she spent on DWTS!?!

8. Child exploitation - not mentioned. WTH????

Continued...

MickeyMcKean said...

9. Pretty much ignoring the fact that two of the children were EXPELLED from regular kindergarten even though the previous year all of the sextuplets were held back from attending regular kindergarten in the first place so that they could attend junior which would allow them to be available for filming a couple of days during the week. This means that the children will be 19 when they graduated from high school - all because of a reality TV show.

10. No mention of the camping trip with Sarah Palin and her family where Kate’s true colors were shown - that there is no denying that it is ALL about Kate and it has nothing to do with the children who said they wanted to stay on the sand bank and continue having fun.

11. No mention that the recent filming schedule in Australia and New Zealand meant that all the children had to miss almost two weeks of school. Also that the parents were at odds as to whether or not the children could be taken out of the country to work in the first place.

12. I have to assume that Polly Kahl was questioned as to what she observed during the filming at the corn maze and yet nothing was mentioned as to how the children were there for only 15 minutes before TLC felt they had enough film footage to use in an upcoming episode.

13. I also have to assume that Paul Peterson and Polly Kahl made other very valid points but that there was not enough time to cover them. This is unfortunate as I believe both of these individuals would have been sure to point out the negative aspects of filming children with no filters for their privacy.

14. The church issue - that Jon and Kate did not choose the selective reduction - again, had E! discovered that Kate’s goal was to have multiples in the first place, of course selective reduction would never be considered an option.

15. All the lies that Kate has been caught in, including how the doctor on the show does not back up her claim as to just how long she was on bed rest.

In summary, I have to say that I think E! should have made it into a two hour show versus just the one hour because by attempting to cram everything into one hour I think E! dropped the ball.

Even though I did not learn anything new since I have been following this Gosselin saga closely for over two years, I must say I was surprised with Stephanie’s comments. I admit I assumed she would trash Jon and yet she stayed neutral and was pro kids. Kudos to Stephanie!

All the above being said, if I step back and look at it from a viewer’s point of view that has no idea about the Gosselin blogs, I do think that a viewer may figure out on their own that Kate has chosen fame and fortune over family, and just her physical transformation screams as to where her true current priorities are these days.

JMO

She is what she is said...

GoPollyGo ... eh, not so much said...

I’ve always had my suspicions about Werny Gal, and am starting to think she’s just another person riding the coat-tails of the Gosselin travesty. I did some searching around on the Internet, and it seems that Werny has not been licensed to practice psychology in PA for over 3 years. Yet, on her website which advertises her professional counseling/therapy services, she uses the initials MA/LPC after her name. “LPC” stands for Licensed Professional Counselor – yet it seems she has not been licensed for quite some time.

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I'm pretty disappointed with WG's 'performance' on E! THS and her USE of the Gosselin's for her book, and agree with your sentiments about it, but she's never claimed to be a psychologist. Her license as a professional counselor, which you looked up, IS active and she IS a professional counselor. Don't fall into the trap of the sheeple and believe their creations.

Adjoining rooms said...

Kharma said....Does anyone know if they sleep in the same hotel room when they "travel for business?"

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There are reports from various hotels that they have adjoining rooms.

Big Cockroach and Praying Manthis... said...

When they showed the kids playing, kicking the ball in the big front yard, the camera crew was following right close next to them maybe what 2 or 3 feet away?

How can children play with that kind of intrusion?

The cameraman looked like a big cockroach scurring trying to get the shot, and the boom mike guy looked like a giant praying manthis trying to get what the kids said.

At least on the E! they showed a picture of one of the tup boys with his hands covering his face for the paparazzi.

Do you think if kate loses custody at the next hearing, that she will make the talk show rounds or put out a statement that it is a private matter and she doesn't comment on private matters.

The public has been there, done that. What a hipocrit!

Shoshanna said...

This show was a whitewash that tasted more like
backwash!

MickeyMcKean said...

I want to add to my list above:

16. That the children are now protesting being in the limelight to the best of their ability at age 6 by covering their faces with their hands, jackets or towels. Evidence of this fact is in the E! episode at least two times.

17. That Kate has stated for the record during the Nancy Morales interview that she has no contact from her parents except via email, and other than Kevin who has been cut out of her life, what about the other 4 siblings?

18. Where Jon is shown pushing the buttons on the control panel at least two times - to use THAT video with NO SOUND - those children's screams ... they were terrorized being returned to their mother's home yet there was no volume during this clip ... WHY?????

19. Why wasn't there any mention of all the "love offerings"?

20. What about the book "I Just Want You To Know"? It only sold 10,000 copies, could it be that the public does not think that private letters to your children should not be made public?

I have to say that I'm pretty sure that E! held back on a lot of things because they were afraid of legal issues.

JMO

lindahoyt said...

Proof positive that Katie and TLC did not have a problem with the show, and that it was really set up by her publicist, is that they are all silent! They do not wish to straighten out the record, nor refute anything.

E-town Neighbor said...

Cockroach said, "Do you think if kate loses custody at the next hearing, that she will make the talk show rounds or put out a statement that it is a private matter and she doesn't comment on private matters.

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No need to be concerned about the talk show rounds. She'll never lose custody; not in PA.

Brummygirl said...

E-town Neighbour said:

No need to be concerned about the talk show rounds. She'll never lose custody; not in PA
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Well that is certainly obvious the way P.A. Judiciary have handled this so far.
To be honest, I am not sure whether Jon would want full custody, probably more 50/50 and more leniency on Kate's part.
The filming is a different issue.
People keep saying give the kids to Jon, how do we know the kids even want to be away from their mother full time.
I know we question her mothering abilities, but they are young children and she is their mother.
The ideal situation, would be for these two to consider the welfare of their children and work together. I know this would never happen on Kate's part, but I am sure Jon would be more pliable.
I guess I will see pigs in the sky before Kate ever considers anyone before herself.

kate can't do sh** said...

My prediction about custody? Once Kate officially drops off the radar and NO ONE is interested in her (which is slowly beginning to happen), she will then allow Jon more time with the kids. The kids will no longer be useful in her quest for fame. So why have them around so much. The spotlight will not be on her mothering skills anymore so she can pretty much do whatever she wants. She can save a lot of money by firing the nannies and caretakers. Then there will be more for her which is the whole plan isn't it? And then Steve and Kate can realize their dream of being together, finally......

JoyinVirginia said...

I caught the last few minutes of this show by accident, while channel surfing. Boring for those of us who read the blogs, nothing new and the most potentially scandalous info not included. I did like seeing Paul Peterson's interview snippets. I do wish the best for the kids, and hope they will get lots of help and support from extended family as they grow up. I do not think E should have shown the shot of the kid's school with the sign out front clearly visible.

Plan B said...

kate can't do sh** said...
My prediction about custody? Once Kate officially drops off the radar and NO ONE is interested in her (which is slowly beginning to happen), she will then allow Jon more time with the kids. The kids will no longer be useful in her quest for fame. So why have them around so much. The spotlight will not be on her mothering skills anymore so she can pretty much do whatever she wants. She can save a lot of money by firing the nannies and caretakers. Then there will be more for her which is the whole plan isn't it? And then Steve and Kate can realize their dream of being together, finally......

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Sounds about right to me. What she should do is give Jon full custody and pay him alimony and child support. Then her and Steve could move to Hollywood where she can pursue her waste of time, I mean dream. That way everyone wins. The kids can be with their father and know genuine love on a daily basis, and Kate can have plenty of time doing what she does best, caring for and grooming Kate! Then when she says, "I did it for my kids," we can believe her.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Mickey, I loved your list. Great idea! May I add one more? I thought it was an important misrepresentation on the E! THS.

21. E! said that networks "approached" the Gosselins. Actually, my understanding is that Kate prepared packages to send to networks seeking a reality show. "Approached" definitely makes it sound like some Exec at Discovery picked up the morning papers and thought, "Whoa, let's talk to this family!" That's not the way it happened. Kate FOUGHT to get their attention--and it worked.

Shoka's Understudy said...

Yes, Virginia Pen Mom, I agree with you. On the E! show they said that Discover had discovered them. I remember that it was common knowledge that kate shopped a video that she made of the family like a maniac until someone took the bait.

Lived in wernersville all my life and know everyone too said...

Where is Gina?

Does anyone know where Gina is?

Is steve living with Kate full time?

Did Gina and Steve go to NZ last Summer and get a divorce, is there a way to check?

Are we in for an expose of how long this relationship with Kate and Steve has been going on?

Jon knows, that is why he walked out,but TLC has him bounded by this litigation he entered into.

When oh when will the Real True Wernsville Story come out?

Do I have to write it? Since I do know what has gone on in that house?

I didn't sign any agreement, but I was told by every repairman, etc., what goes on in that house. Call it heresay but it is a family of 10 and that includes Steve. He gives the orders. How about that?

Brummygirl said...

I finally caught this program. It was on this afternoon and I P.V.R.'d it, knowing this would not affect initial ratings.
I was trying to watch it with no preconceptions, but that was very difficult.
I think the thing which bothered me most, was seeing the cameras within two feet of the kids when they were playing. We do not get the same perspective when we are watching the show.
What mother would want that for her children..?I guess we know the answer to that.
The transformation of Kate from early motherhood to now, is really astounding. As the years went by she added another layer until the original Kate disappeared.
Seeing the babies that small and cute, it is understandable how many people were drawn to this show.
Even though it was not the expose everyone hoped for, I think E showed the side of Kate we see, entitled, money hungry and seeking fame. Kate stated herself she had a *bucket* list to fill.
The people interviewed probably did their best to get their points across in the short time alloted, but it was tempered by excuses given for Kate and by the idiot who said he had compassion for Kate. Where is Kate's compassion for her children?
Did she watch this, did she see only how much she has changed and did she not see how this affected her children. Colin more than once covered his face, his body language saying "go away". How could any mother not be affected by this.
In the filming of Kate practicing with Tony, Kate's eyes were literally glazed, whether it was from tiredness or something else, I would not like to speculate. She didn't have to take this *job* as she called it. It was said she had many bills to pay. The bills were self imposed with all the self pampering and suing her husband. She could have been at home with her children, she surely had enough money by that time.
They did not show Jon in a good light either. I must admit he really did make some poor choices but somewhat understand his lapse. He was treated like a child and he acted childishly.
Whether this program enlightened any of her fans, I do not know except for one group we know, who breathed a sigh of relief whilst trying to find how many Kate clothes they could buy. True and strange.
You have all covered a lot of the points so I will not go into them again other than to say this show was pointless!!

pattidan said...

Just a note...I was in the dollar store by my house the other day and what do you think I saw in the $1 book bin......"Eight Little Faces".......WOW has it come down in price.......much like Kate's career......

Studio Lights said...

Peace & Quiet said,

"Just take the kids off of TV, take the filming lights out of that house and go to work Kate. Go out to Hollywood and take some acting courses or start a charity. Seems you do have a talent, raising money for a make believe charity. You are good at that."

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I don't believe the filming lights were installed at the new house. Those were in the previous home. To what make-believe charity are you referring? St. Jude is not make-believe, and the garage sale proceeds went to pediatric cancer. The cycle was donated for a charity auction in Hershey (Ronald McDonald House).
Other than that, I can't recall any other charity mentioned. I don't think giving to charity is really all that important to them.

Please Clarify said...

MickeyMcKean said...I am surprised that E! did not confirm that when Kate while in high school she was obsessed with the idea of having multiples after reading a book about the McCaugheys who had received a lot of gifts from strangers after the birth of their septuplets in 1997.
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Was this something Kate mentioned in her books or interviews?

I am four years younger than Kate Gosselin, and I graduated high school in 1998. I doubt Kate was a 22 year old senior...lol.

Are we sure it wasn't the Dilley Sextuplets (who were born in 1993) she became obsessed with?

Hopefully, there aren't teenagers today idolizing Kate Gosselin and wanting to have their own set of multiples. I could see how some might dream about this, given all the fame and money Kate has received.

Ampersmom said...

Please Clarify said..
Hopefully, there aren't teenagers today idolizing Kate Gosselin and wanting to have their own set of multiples. I could see how some might dream about this, given all the fame and money Kate has received.

What really is sad is that there are grown women who think this is lifestyle (filming) of the kids is not a bad thing. Scary to think teenagers would want this type of reality lifestyle or multiples. I am not against multiple births, I am against designing ones life to have a multiple birth for exploitation.

1momski said...

Just wondering said: "I'm proud of Polly for speaking up both in this program and in her book. Do you think she is going to become some sort of millionaire from this small book"

The point is that she is making money off the backs of the Gosselin Children. I have the greatest respect for Paul Peterson who donates his time to advocate for the rights of exloited children like the Gosselins. I have no respect for Werny Girl Polly anymore. I believe that she sold the Gosselins out to make a buck and that makes her no different than Kate, TLC, etc.

readerlady said...

Those of you who think Polly Kahl is hoping to get rich off her book - not a chance. As a self-published author, she'll make around $.39 (that's right, Thirty-nine cents) off each book sold. I know this because I have friends who are self-published authors. Polly will have to sell a ton of books just to break even from her publishing costs, let alone compensate for the time spent interviewing people and writing the book. Have you actually read the book? I have. It's not a gossip fest nor an in-depth study of the Gosselins. It's more about "reality" television and an indictment of TLC's role in the destruction of a family and the exploitation of 8 little souls. If we consider Polly to be persona non grata for writing her book, then each and every one of us is guilty too, for following the Gosselin saga with varying degrees of prurient interest. Instead of bickering amongst ourselves, like Sheeple, we need to concentrate on doing our parts in seeing that this never happens to another family. Sorry for the soap box.

Just saying... said...

Please Clarify said...
Are we sure it wasn't the Dilley Sextuplets (who were born in 1993) she became obsessed with?

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Kate named 2 of the tups after the McCaugheys; Alexis and Joel. It's safe to say she was obsessed with them. IMO

Be Glad to Have Peace & Quiet on our Roads Again said...

Studio Lights....


What charity?


The charity of Kate Gosselin that is exactly what I meant. Do you realize how much time she and Jon spent on phones, writing letters, lecturing and raising money for "raising her self designed family of mulitiples"

If you live in the State of Pa, like I do, then we have paid for her children. Every free insurance policy.

So where does Kate give to St. Jude? TLC gave to St. Jude, Kate, Jon and the kids took the gifts/money there. Remember, it was a part of an episode.

She gave a scooter to R. McDonald House? It is called Regifting. Didn't cost her a penny.

The Garage/Yard Sale....was all items given to her or paid for by TLC. It was an episode of the show. Not a penny from Kate or Jon.

As a matter of fact, those two give nothing to anyone, they take and they still take.

Defend who you want, but I live in Wernersville, I have relatives in E town. We know all about the
most infamous Katie Irene Kreider.

And generous is not a word used to describe her or Jon.

I don't care about the lights, but they had lights in that house for halloween or don't you remember?

They taped in that kitchen quite a few times, but no lights were put in the children's room in this house.

By the way, who cares?

Reading Observer said...

Yes, I feel that WG deceived us posters. Her whole Blog was to write a book.

Is this a book that will be used to abolish Reality TV?

Is this a book that WG used our blogs, our information, etc about Kate and Jon to make her way into the PA Court Hearings?

Why did she not, at the very beginning of her Blog, state that she was compiling information for a book?

Did she not owe the posters the truth as to what her Blog was about?

Did she self publish?

Is she donating money made from the book, even if it is a dime, to a charity for children?

How do you write a book about Kate and Jon Gosselin and their children and have not spoken to them or to any Reality TV actors?

Kate Gosselin is certainly laughing her way all the way to the Bank and so is Jon. For he made a deal with TLC so the 8 could go back on TV with Kate.

Smoke and Mirrors are all around us?

This is the only true blog. No ads, only sites to help the children, that is why I am here, not because Kate gets a $5,000.00 haircut. I could care less about her.

She and Jon entered into this and they are not suffering, but the children are and will be thanks to their mother, as Jon tries to not be seen spending the big bucks.

Yet, I will never understand Jon's girlfriend having a blog on advice with a photo of Jon on it.

So many people making money off the kids' backs.

Good going WG and get a haircut, try Supercuts, I hear they have a special for first time customers.

JenTru said...

SmileyGrl752 said...
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Why did she refuse to comment? She obviously loves being on TV and "setting the record straight".
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i can tell you why! She didn't receive anything, other than some not-so-great publicity for the E! show. She wasn't paid, she had no CONTROL over what was said and she has to live with what little damning evidence was shown. Kate never does anything for free...

E-town Neighbor said...

MickeyMcKean said...I am surprised that E! did not confirm that when Kate while in high school she was obsessed with the idea of having multiples after reading a book about the McCaugheys who had received a lot of gifts from strangers after the birth of their septuplets in 1997.

Please Clarify said...I am four years younger than Kate Gosselin, and I graduated high school in 1998. I doubt Kate was a 22 year old senior...lol.

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Maybe that's why E! didn't confirm it! She graduated from MCCS in 1993, so unless she was clairvoyant, she couldn't have read a book about multiples born in 1997.

SwingsandRoundabouts said...

I'm coming rather late to the discussion. I have not posted in a very long time although I am a regular reader of the Gosselin blogs, here at GWOP (my favourite), at 15 minutes and at Small Town Gosselins.

I was disappointed at the treatment of Kate Gosselin on E!THS as I found it badly researched, carelessly edited and really little more than a very superficial glance at the whole debacle.

I too was disappointed with WernyGal as unfortunately I have come to believe that she is just as much an opportunist as Kate herself. The vanity publishing of her book speaks volumes (pun intended).

Perhaps her contribution to Al Walentis's book led her to believe that she had something important to add to this sorry saga.

Having read the few pages of Al W.'s that was available online I was underwhelmed by his lack of research, his poor writing skills, his vulgarity and his overall inability to tell a credible story.

Unfortunately WernyGal has apparently fallen into the same morass of poor research and under the guise of an insider has further exploited the Gosselins. I believe that she showed poor judgement in contributing to Al's book and even poorer judgement in her attempt to write a book on the subject of the effects of reality tv on children, specifically the Gosselin children. (Otherwise the name would not even be in the title.)

I really don't know what her motives really are, I have read her defense and I am very skeptical. I believe it is an attempt to insinuate herself into the drama, perhaps to add to her C.V., and I think it is truly to make a name for herself (self-aggrandizement).

Perhaps I am wrong but the whole thing just does not pass the "smell test".

I am heartily tired of those who continue to exploit those kids while purportedly trying to help them.

fidosmommy said...

So, the question is WHEN did Kate read the book about the McCaughey
children? Was it in High School, or was it when she was working as a nurse in labor and delivery? The story is that she was fascinated with the McCaughey's
fame and good fortune - freebies - enough to name Alexis (first to be born) and Joel (last to be born) after the first and last born McCaughey septuplets.


It's the High School timing of this that seems to be off, not the rest of it.

Questions And Answers said...

"She and Jon entered into this and they are not suffering, but the children are and will be thanks to their mother, as Jon tries to not be seen spending the big bucks."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
With the amount of child support he is paying, and given the fact that he is now employed in a "regular" job, I don't think Jon has "big bucks" to spend.

"Is this a book that WG used our blogs, our information, etc about Kate and Jon to make her way into the PA Court Hearings?"

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The hearings were held in September. Her book was not yet written, so I doubt that she used the book to make her way into the child labor law hearings.

"Yet, I will never understand Jon's girlfriend having a blog on advice with a photo of Jon on it."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I believe that Ellen is free to use whatever photos she wants on her webpage, including Jon's photo.

"Kate Gosselin is certainly laughing her way all the way to the Bank and so is Jon. For he made a deal with TLC so the 8 could go back on TV with Kate."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
He is now trying to get them OFF television, which is why he is opposed to the children being dragged everywhere to be filmed.

"How do you write a book about Kate and Jon Gosselin and their children and have not spoken to them or to any Reality TV actors?"

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
How have modern-day historians written books about Franklin D. Roosevelt's role in the Great Depression without have spoken to him?

"Did she self publish?"

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Yes.

"So many people making money off the kids' backs."

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Yes, and as long as TLC milks this for all its worth, sadly, it's not going to end anytime soon.

Studio Lights said...

Be Glad said,

"Defend who you want, but I live in Wernersville, I have relatives in E town. We know all about the
most infamous Katie Irene Kreider."

I have not, nor would I, defend her actions. I not only know "about" Kate Kreider, I've known her for quite a few years.


"By the way, who cares?"

I would hope that everyone who comments on this blog cares about the welfare of the children, and therefore would care about their mother's role in their lives.


"I don't care about the lights, but they had lights in that house for halloween or don't you remember?"

You commented about the lights in your post, and I responded. I know that there were lights installed in the E-town home, but I didn't know if set lights were also put up in their current home. I didn't see the Halloween show. I no longer watch the show; therefore, I don't contribute to the ratings.


"If you live in the State of Pa, like I do, then we have paid for her children. Every free insurance policy."

Born and raised here. Could you please explain what you mean by "every free insurance policy?" I do know that we taxpayers footed the bill for the first year of their home nursing care and thank goodness, the second year was denied, but I'm not sure what you mean by free insurance policy? Do you mean currently? Are you commenting about CHIP? With her income, they wouldn't be eligible for FREE CHIP.

It would be nice for us taxpayers to be reimbursed for that first year of nursing care. Doesn't the recipient have to return those funds once they are financially able? I'm not familiar with Medicaid laws. Does anyone know?

Snow Globe said...

Swings --

Excellent, excellent analysis. You saved me the time of writing exactly how I feel about the subject currently under discussion on these blogs.

"Perhaps I am wrong but the whole thing just does not pass the "smell test"."

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No, it doesn't. I'm a firm believer of the proverb, "What you don't see with your eyes, don't witness with your mouth." There's no excuse for poor research. I have a problem with riding this gravy train for all its worth, especially when so many train conductors are getting free rides at the expense of the children. Al's book was terribly written and so crude that I would have been ashamed to have put my name on it.

Unfortunately, I don't think we've seen the end of this. More books by "insiders" will follow, and the more there are, the more unconfirmed stories will be thrown into the mix until nobody will be able to figure out fact from fiction.

readerlady said...

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong here LOL, but wasn' it Khate's mother who said in an interview that Khate was obsessed with the McCaughey septuplets and carried their book everywhere with her when she was in high school? I don't remember where I read that. Perhaps on here, or maybe on Julie's blog? If I have some spare time tomorrow, I'll try to track it down. If I find it, I'll report it.

readerlady said...

I forgot to mention - THANK YOU to the blog owners for fixing the posting problem. I no longer have to click 3 or 4 times to get a post to go through!

LancNative said...

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong here LOL, but wasn' it Khate's mother who said in an interview that Khate was obsessed with the McCaughey septuplets and carried their book everywhere with her when she was in high school?

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Hmmmm...I thought it was at a high school reunion that Kate told someone that she was obsessed with multiples. Thinking about it, though, it could have been Kate's mother, but Kate couldn't have carried their book around in high school! I do remember that Charlene said something about Kate having twin dolls that she carried around (in high school? LOL!!)...

Reading Observer said...

Kate was on CHIP for the first 3 years of the tups life. It is a fact.
Be quiet is correct.

Yes, we did see lights installed in the kitchen in the new house, as several shows were filmed there re: chickens, halloween show, back to school breakfasts, etc.

We don't fight on this Blog. We have opinions and we are expressing our opinions constantly without friction as most of what is said is opinion/speculation/guessing/youtube.com/TlC KJ8 segments.

Majority of those who post here, are not writing books, interested in the welfare of the children.

Kate has done nothing for anyone but Kate.

someone wondered how long Jon would
be kept quiet. It is the sadder part of right now.

As for Custody. Who in the world knows what goes on. Sometimes someone from the court gives insights, other times, we assume.

We do care, no need for fighting.

Be Glad to Have Peace & Quiet on our Roads Again said...

Swings and Roundabouts....

Very well said and I concur, again.

Is Ellen going to write a book about the Gosselin children when she and Jon break up? She has Jon's picture on her blog and some suggestive photos of herself as she gives advice.

Did she have a Blog before Jon and his notoriety? I don't think so. He should be careful, every woman he has been involved with, every one, has spoken about him, wrote about him, badmouthed him, etc.

If Ellis is a nice young woman who loves Jon's kids, then stop the Blog and work your govt job or

keep your blog, remove Jon's picture (he is the attraction, is he not_) and work your govt job.

After WG, I just don't trust any of this or the people who use double posting names.

E-town Neighbor said...

Reading Observer said...

Kate was on CHIP for the first 3 years of the tups life. It is a fact.
Be quiet is correct.

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Someone said that the children got free insurance, which is Pennsylvania's CHIP (Children's Health Insurance Plan). However there are different levels of CHIP -- free, low cost and full cost. Three years ago their income exceeded what would have qualified them for FREE CHIP. They would have been entitled to either LOW COST or FULL COST CHIP, but then it wouldn't have been free.

Who is "Be quiet" and what are they correct about?

readerlady said...

There is no link because it's not true, All This Is That. It's just more Sheeple manufactured manure. WG is the blog owner and editor and is NOT an E! consultant. It's the same as the Sheeple whining and saying she's deleting negative reviews on her book on Amazon because their negative reviews haven't been posted immediately. I'm a regular reviewer on Amazon (and yes, I have read/listened to/viewed EVERYTHING I review). All reviews must be approved by Amazon before they post and it takes at least 24 hours, sometimes much longer, for the reviews to appear.

Kat said...

This saga is worse than the Dionne Quintuplets

Jane in California said...

Jentru said:
i can tell you why! She didn't receive anything, other than some not-so-great publicity for the E! show. She wasn't paid, she had no CONTROL over what was said and she has to live with what little damning evidence was shown. Kate never does anything for free...
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HA! So true :) If she's not getting a freebie of some kind or flat out payment, Kate is not interested.

Curious George's Sister said...

Lived in wernersville all my life and know everyone too said...


Do I have to write it? Since I do know what has gone on in that house?

I didn't sign any agreement, but I was told by every repairman, etc., what goes on in that house. Call it heresay but it is a family of 10 and that includes Steve. He gives the orders. How about that?
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Care to share?

I'll admit it, I'm really curious as to what goes on in the house. Does Kate really leave the day to day care of the kids to a nanny? Does she really drink wine out of a box? Are she and Steve really fooling around?

Since you've got the inside scoop...spill it! ;>)

dustilies said...

Readerlady wrote . . .
Those of you who think Polly Kahl is hoping to get rich off her book - not a chance. As a self-published author, she'll make around $.39 (that's right, Thirty-nine cents) off each book sold. I know this because I have friends who are self-published authors. Polly will have to sell a ton of books just to break even from her publishing costs, let alone compensate for the time spent interviewing people and writing the book.

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Readerlady is absolutely correct here.

I see compelling arguments for and against publishing anything about the family.

But haven't many of us wanted, and even tried to incite, a reputable journalist in a mainstream, non-tabloid publication to write an expose about the "realest reality show" and Kate in particular?

And isn't WG's book a step toward that goal?

Also, if most of the book is about Kate and TLC, wouldn't she "making money off the backs" of Kate and TLC, not the kids?

I've only read the first chapter (free download from amazon), so I can only speak tentatively about the content of the whole thing. WG has been vigilant about keeping the individual kids names out of discussions of the not-expulsions.

I did notice that the credit for cover and book design is to JibberJabbers, who I assume is the same person who has posted so much visual hilarity here and on her own blog.

Basically, I see WG as a member of our tribe, someone who started as a curious onlooker, then became engaged and upset by the exploitation of the kids. Not trying to stir the pot here, just adding to the discussion of the complex ethics here.

I do plan to buy the whole book.

We Didn't Start The Fire said...

Be Glad to Have Peace & amp said --

If Ellis is a nice young woman who loves Jon's kids, then stop the Blog and work your govt job or

keep your blog, remove Jon's picture (he is the attraction, is he not_) and work your govt job.

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Her name is Ellen. Your premise and conclusion don't seem to work. If one is a nice young woman who loves children, does that preclude her from owning a blog and being employed by the government? She cannot do all three -- love the kids, own a blog, and have a job? Kids aren't being exploited on a blog; she's not flaunting her relationship with Jon simply by having his photo there. There are no photos of the children, or mention of them. I don't see any 'suggestive' photos there. It's a benign advice/fashions page. As far as I know, purses and shoes are harmless and don't cause too much controversy.

I don't understand why there would be an objection to Ellen maintaining a blog.

Question to all of your bloggers in the know: has a date been set for the wedding, or have the two of them, as well as the media, been quiet on the subject? Wasn't it announced that they are getting married this year?

Enuff Already said...

Obviously the sheeple have never self-published. It's EXPENSIVE and you seldom break even. I did volunteer work for an organization and we did a self-publish book. I know what I am talking about. It was more of an advertising venture for us than a money making venture. Werny is just doing what we have been wanting....getting the word out about Kate. I'm not going to buy the book because I know plenty already about the Gosselins, but it's great for those who have not followed the drama. Believe me, Werny will not get rich with this book and that was not the intention.

Gaby said...
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former poster said...

No, I still feel that WG deceived me. Yes, I do. Self publish? She did stalk the family during family, I did talk to the mgr who was on duty that week. She was unset about what WG was trying to do, that is how she was kept on the phone by WG. She also said the WG was unrelenting. Finally, the mgr said, you can come here, it is a public place and I cannot stop you. That woman was extremely upset by it all and was disciplined by the owners of the Maze when TLC ratted out WG. See, innocent people get harmed over what? A self publish book about who?

WG appeared on TV, as an established counselor, therefore an expert witness, so to speak of Wernersville resident Kate Gosselin.

This is the beginning of she and that guy Al, hoping that they will be used as persons to be called in the future to comment on Reality TV and therefore make money off of the Gosselin children.

It is sordid and doesn't end.

Wonder, who can you trust, I guess being warned about Blogs is true. Never know how one is being abused and I think WG abused some of what we gave to her via posts.

I learned a lesson. Won't do it again. As much as I don't agree on what Kate does or did to her children, her family, her church, etc., and especially her ex husband, I will not watch one show on any of those shows or any shows that depict children as jokes, sitcoms, etc.

I saw that 700 Club interview of Kate. She certainly is what my mother's generation would have called a "snake oil artist" but it is over for me.