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she is evil said...

I am of the strong belief, still, that Katan and Steve are not romantically involved. I think she is attracted to him and wants him, and loves the speculation that they are an item. But I cannot wrap my head around the idea that he could want HER. He knows what a vain, phony, awful, ignorant person she is. He babysits this insufferable childish woman and knows exactly how much of a reptile she is. But I did wonder WHY he put up with so much of her shit, why he spends so much time with a woman who does not need a bodyguard. And here's my opinion: he makes a lot of money out of babysitting her and this is his highest paying gig. Not just the $1600/day rate, but the extra money I now believe he and Kate have been pocketing from the tabloids for photos he takes of her. There appears to be that single paparazzo, Chris, who takes her picture when he is called by her. But other than that, she is pretty much ignored by the true paparazzi. Whenever Chris isn't around to take her picture, I think Dingleballs steps in. Remember the pics in the parking garage taken right after her horrid Jon-bashing interview right before she left for Mexico? She is all done up and smiling, unlike her usual pouty look. It was speculated back then that Steve took those pics too. At this point in time, Steve's career as a bodyguard is over. No true celebrity who needs actual protection would hire him. He has lost all credibility by now. He could probably still work for TLC, but I doubt anyone else would want him. And to keep a paycheck coming in, be must make himself indispensible to Kate and help keep her 'employed' and in the blogs/tabloids. And I think he likes his fame by association, even if it is by the side of a woman that no one can stand. (I wonder if even HE can stand her). Once she is no longer working and too poor to pay him, I predict that he is outta there. I may be wrong, but I can't imagine he, or anyone, would willingly hang out with that hag

Kartie Dearest said...

I posted this on another blog but reposting here as I wanted to share with the readers here.

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Has anyone seen the movie Winter’s Bone? It’s a low budget film shot in Missouri’s poverty-stricken area. Beautifully filmed (like a documentary), acted, and garnering lots of international awards and nominations. The main actress who plays the teen daughter caring for her poor family is up for a Golden Globe nomination.

Anyway, I saw this movie the other night and they had a “behind the scenes and filming” feature. One segment was about filming the child actors. There were two child actors who played the main actress’s younger brother (about age 11) and younger sister (about age 5-6). In the movie, they were adorable and just seemed so natural. Many of their scenes were of them quietly playing in their yard with the dogs/toys, running around, jumping on hay or playing on the trampoline, sleeping, etc. -- those parts were filmed like a home movie with rarely any music.

However, when you see the “behind the scenes filming” – every movement is choreographed and you can hear the director saying, “look down” “look up” “run this way” “keep running” “take a bite of the food”, "look over at him". During a couch scene, after a couple of takes, the director yelled, "cut", and the boy collapsed back into the couch.

While watching the behind the scenes footage, I started to get really uncomfortable. I was thinking this is what the Gosselin kids must go through minus someone yelling “action!” and “cut” and that black and white prop that they clap together before shooting (I forget the name of that thing). They showed the boom person, camera person and producer (3 people) filming close to the child actors as they “played”.

I’m not implying that the Gosselin kids are told what to do with every action they do but the similarities of controlled behavior and filming staff surrounding the kids were eerie. A lot of parallels to the corn maze filming.

The obvious difference is that these child actors in the movie were properly paid, credited, and probably closely monitored by the union rep on working hours, teacher on site, etc.

If anyone saw this same behind the scenes segment, I would be interested in hearing your thoughts. I also encourage everyone to rent this movie (not just for the behind the scenes footage but the movie was great...but not a typical action fast pace type of movie).

Kane said...

Tami said
I think Alexis and Mady are trying so hard now to get her approval. Why is Mady all over her in the lounge chair when they rarely seem close? I think that kid is craving approval and affection from the very person she never gets any from.

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When I saw Mady in those pictures, my first thought was that Kate haad made her sit there. Maybe because she thought Mady was causing trouble or something. If you look at the one picture closely of her sitting on the chair's arm with her back to the camera, youcan see Mady's hands doing some kind of wring-your-necktype of gesture. My oldest daughter sometimes does this when frustrated with her younger brother. She would never act on it though, lol.

made in usa said...

so sick of her said...
Perhaps, the kids got into a fight or argument with Kate at the pool, before they went to the Zoo. It said in a few of the articles, that they went there after the pool.
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wow, flew all the way to australia to go to a zoo and a pool.

winsomeone said...

Infdaily has poor quality pictures of Kate again..from New Zealand supposedly.

getty said...

Oh yes, and that open palm thing is so foreign and unnatural to me. I again tried the other day to just open my hand straight and hold my daughter's hand. She actually protested,
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When i do hold hands with little ones or the elderly, your fingers do curl gently around.
Maybe she's afraid her long nails scratch the children?

If it does not come naturally for whatever reason to her she should try it. Kids feel protected when you hold on to them tight and close to you.

Hippie Chick said...

About Steve taking pics of kate...it makes a lot sense now. Remember those Big Foot pictures of kate at that 4th of July party when Steve was there & his boys? We were all wondering how any pap could have gotten in unless invited. While that may be true that kate invited Chris, it's plausible Steve took those photos & sold them & him & kate split the profits. This could have been going on a long time now, but who knows? I put nothing past kate if it pertains to greed.

Aunt Chris said...

I don't understand all the talk about Steve taking the photos now. They are filming, right? Why wouldn't it be TLC taking photos and releasing them? They are not the most professional ones, but that could be by design also - to make it LOOK like she's being followed by the paps everwhere!

Analyze This said...

I remember doing an interpretive exercise in one of my grad classes, many years ago. The students were shown photos, and each of us had to analyze them, describing what was happening in the photos. Each interpretation was different. The professor then explained what really was going on, and we all were surprised at how incorrect our interpretations were, and had a good laugh about it because we were so far off base.

Some of the recent posts remind me of that class -- many different interpretations (Mady was angry with her siblings; Mady was craving approval from her mother; the kids were having a fight; Mady and Alexis are trying to get close to Kate; the hand-holding analysis, etc. etc.)

We can speculate until the cows come home, but that's all it is -- speculation. Bottom line is that the only people who know what incident prompted the kids' behavior are those who were there with them.

Kia Ora said...

In most photos of her and the children. Not only down under, but in the USA also, they look kinda spaced out, dopy, dazed? Don't know what word fits it? Not normal anyway.

Not a pap said...

Even the photos of Alexis coming down the escalator with that big grin on her face doesn't automatically mean that Steve was the one doing the actual photo taking. He could have been right behind the photographer or alongside and encouraging her to smile.

When have we ever seen any of the kids smile like that for any photographer> Never.
The smile was definitely coaxed and because of the ease they all seemed to be feeling, etc., I believe the pictures were taken by Steve or a TLC crew (same difference, really) and that it is the same person who took the pictures at the hotel and pool. It wasn't a stranger/pap, that's for sure.

Amateur pap said...

winsomeone said...
Infdaily has poor quality pictures of Kate again..from New Zealand supposedly.


They're not professional/paparazzi quality photos either. They were taken in the Sydney airport when they were on their way to NZ.

Amateur pap said...

Aunt Chris said...
I don't understand all the talk about Steve taking the photos now. They are filming, right? Why wouldn't it be TLC taking photos and releasing them? They are not the most professional ones, but that could be by design also - to make it LOOK like she's being followed by the paps everwhere!

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The first tip off that they're nto taken by a pap is because they're not high quality. 2nd is the fact paps in Australia dont' care about her and aren't following her around. 3rd is the photos at the hotel would not have been permitted on private property from the exact angle where Steve was sitting. etc, etc.

Tired of traveling said...

Kia Ora said...
In most photos of her and the children. Not only down under, but in the USA also, they look kinda spaced out, dopy, dazed? Don't know what word fits it? Not normal anyway.

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Most likely they're TIRED of being dragged half way around the world to be filmed visiting another beach and zoo and airport. Plus what else might be going on.

she is evil said...

I read somewhere (another blog?) that an eyewitness claimed that the "white haired guy" was the one taking the pix of the G8 + Katan in the Brisbane airport and Kate was heard saying "Smile, smile" to the kids. Obviously, this source may or may not be legitimate, but it would explain Alexis' big smile and her looking to her biological mother for approval. Also, it fits with the seemingly out of place huge grins Kate and Alexis have, while the rest of the kids look tired/bored/medicated. No one was covering the filming until those pix surfaced. Guess Kate couldn't stand being ignored so she and Steve staged the photo ops. What tools. The kids must just hate what a fake she is.

Tami said...

When i do hold hands with little ones or the elderly, your fingers do curl gently around.
Maybe she's afraid her long nails scratch the children?

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I wouldn't think it would cross her mind. But have long nails (not fake like hers though) and I never scratch holding hands.

Tami said...

We can speculate until the cows come home, but that's all it is -- speculation. Bottom line is that the only people who know what incident prompted the kids' behavior are those who were there with them.
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Yes, and the point? No one here said it is exactly what happened. The free discussion here is just as much for speculation as anything else.

Aunt Chris said...

Amateur pap said...
The first tip off that they're nto taken by a pap is because they're not high quality. 2nd is the fact paps in Australia dont' care about her and aren't following her around. 3rd is the photos at the hotel would not have been permitted on private property from the exact angle where Steve was sitting. etc, etc.


EXACTLY my point - it is NOT paps taking the pictures, it's TLC related, not done well ON PURPOSE to make it look like photogs are hounding her. I did not see ANY pictures of Steve sitting at any angle so why do we think it's HIM taking the pictures?! Where did this thought come from? Just more bullcrap put out by the TLC machine.

Angle said...

Aunt Chris said...EXACTLY my point - it is NOT paps taking the pictures, it's TLC related, not done well ON PURPOSE to make it look like photogs are hounding her. I did not see ANY pictures of Steve sitting at any angle so why do we think it's HIM taking the pictures?! Where did this thought come from? Just more bullcrap put out by the TLC machine.

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There is a picture of Steve sitting on a balcony above the pool area where Kate and the kids were photographed and the angle is the same for Kate's picture as that of the picture taken of Steve, ie: taken by each other. Kate also posed quite provocatively in a couple of shots, not something I'd hope she'd do for a regular crew member, but ya never know with her lately.

There are pictures at Pressi's site that show the angle where they were at the hotel and pool. It's pretty interesting.

HW said...

Kia Ora said...
In most photos of her and the children. Not only down under, but in the USA also, they look kinda spaced out, dopy, dazed? Don't know what word fits it? Not normal anyway.

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I wonder if this is because those children are just exhausted all the time. They have to get up pretty early for the bus ride to school; their mother wears them out with the filming schedule; they probably aren't fed on a regular schedule or enough; and stress can lead to extreme exhaustion and depression.
In the case of this trip perhaps they are still jet lagged.

I do think we are looking at 8 children who are depressed and full of anxiety.

K8STFU said...

We can speculate until the cows come home, but that's all it is -- speculation. Bottom line is that the only people who know what incident prompted the kids' behavior are those who were there with them.

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I think we all agree that there is TON of speculation regarding the Gosselins. Some outlandishly stupid, but the majority pretty darn accurate.

A big difference between your class exercise (very interesting btw) and the "speculation" that occurs here and elsewhere is that, your photos were one-time occurances, probably with random folks saying/doing random things.

K8 has REPEATEDLY shown her disdain towards her own children, hatred towards Jon, horrible treatment of others,selfish/nasty/diva behavior, etc. I think that much of the speculation should be otherwise catergorized as educated guesses.

readerlady said...

I'd like to revisit a few posts/discussion from last week's thread. Some of the posters are of the opinion that Khate's smacking/slapping/"lovetapping" Jon is just playfulness and of no harm. Others feel it is abusive. So - think about it for a minute. If JON were the one slapping, smacking and "lovetapping" Khate, would it be abusive? If KHATE were the one who indicated that it hurt, asked JON to stop, and was told not to be "victimish", would you still think it was just "playfulness"? If it is abusive toward one sex, then it is abusive toward the other. Personally, I'm of the opinion that Khate was being abusive to Jon. More than once, he indicated that she had hurt him when she smacked. More than once Jon asked her to stop it. She just shrugged it off and said that it was unattractive for a man to pretend to be a victim. To me, that is the very definition of abusive. Physical abuse doesn't have to result in black eyes, multiple bruises, and broken bones. All this was done in front of the kids, on film, and shown to the world. What kind of a message does this send to their daughters about the way one treats one's spouse? What kind of message does it send to their sons? Spousal abuse is a growing problem in this country, and it is learned in the home. There's NEVER an excuse for it. Off soap box.

so sick of her said...

Well, saw the latest pics, more of the same, Kate not smiling or even happy(only smiling with a stranger, she took a pic with), only one kid smiling and that one is walking with a tup. The kids look tired and bored and probably want to go HOME. Tell me people here who have kids that age or had kids that age: if you are the one in Kates place, with or without cameras, and it's been what 3 weeks of non-stop travel, and no limit on how many kids you have, how would your kids, be right now: whiney? tired? bored? wanting to go HOME? Don't kids, and I remember my 29 year old niece, when she was 8, and geez, we were on a craft shopping trip, and then grass-hopping to a few more stores, and she had enough of the trip and first whined, complained and then wanted to go home. So tell me about normal kids reaction to too much trip? I think the G8 are or have been at that limit a couple of days ago. And I'm sure Killjoy Kate told them to suck it up, you are not gonna ruin this for ME! Poor kids!

NoK8 said...

This may sound pretty insignificant, but it just occured to me that the tups are going to be getting their adult teeth in soon. K8's efforts to make them seem four are going to be crushed when they're visibly seven. It's such a little thing, but I feel like most of the public doesn't notice how developmentally behind the kids are because they look a bit small for their age, and that this may be enough to wake them up.

Sick, sick woman said...

From the previous thread:

Claudia commented on the stick held by Kate while "disciplining" her two-year-old toddlers on this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebqxFJxUvpw

Kate is holding it while sending a baby to sit in a corner (at 2:00), and has picked it back up when she goes after another at 2:30.

As a previous poster noted, there's no mistaking that the stick is meant to be threatening. She's swinging it as if she's very used to using.

In between going after the children, she has the dowel right beside her on her comfy chair - very visible at 2:22. That's how she dealt with babies in diapers.

No wonder they have rage issues. No attention from their mother unless they're being filmed, a dowel coming after them when they act like toddlers - WHEN THEY ARE TODDLERS -(and a kitchen spoon in the van when they're older), no privacy, no life of their own, no positive attention. Just a selfish, nasty witch of a mother (and an ineffectual father).

It's notable that she's not playing with the babies, she's not interacting, and she's only intervening when there's a chance to yell at them. There's no sign of positive re-reinforcement at all.

It was all there, even before the obsessive spending and the public self-absorption.

Joeysmom said...

Clearly, the photo of her stretched out on the lounge chair in the white bikini, trying to tan her under arm, is a woman that is posing for her lover...They are a couple. She wants to be taken care of and he wants someone to take care of...that's why she couldn't be with Jon. Remember all the times she demanded Jon take control and tell her where to go and what to do as she melted down? She was a reluctant Alpha in that relationship.

C said...

she is evil said...
"I am of the strong belief, still, that Katan and Steve are not romantically involved. I think she is attracted to him and wants him, and loves the speculation that they are an item. But I cannot wrap my head around the idea that he could want HER. He knows what a vain, phony, awful, ignorant person she is."

I agree with you, in that I don't believe that they are involved. But my reasoning is simply that I can't envision status-concious Kate getting involved with The Help. She might think he's cute, but I'm sure she's convinced herself that she can do better than a man who isn't a SUPAH STAH like she is.

Pattypanda said...

The best thing we can do to save the 8 is just post as little as possible, as hard as it is, because she just fuels disgust by her actions. Twitter your support to Jon. Think how free out minds can be as she slowly disappears. Who cares what the shows will broadcast we few months from now, after tons of editing. It will be the same screaming in her ugly voice as usual.

Those Hounding Paps said...

"EXACTLY my point - it is NOT paps taking the pictures, it's TLC related, not done well ON PURPOSE to make it look like photogs are hounding her."

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Now I'm really confused. If TLC is taking the pictures and want us to believe it's the paps, TLC wouldn't submit inferior-quality pictures. They would be sending high-quality pictures to make it look like the paps were hounding them. Paps do not sell bad photos.

Racermom281 said...

Somebody in Kate's camp must be reading the comment's on here. New pics of her on ROL, lo and behold, she is holding hand's "for real" with Adien and one of the girls. Radar said "she looked stunning going thru the airport" UGH, I think I threw up in mouth a little.

Tami said...

EXACTLY my point - it is NOT paps taking the pictures, it's TLC related, not done well ON PURPOSE to make it look like photogs are hounding her. I did not see ANY pictures of Steve sitting at any angle so why do we think it's HIM taking the pictures?! Where did this thought come from? Just more bullcrap put out by the TLC machine.

1/08/2011 2:38

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Oh but there was. There was a picture of Steve on the balcony eating. Someone would have to explain why Steve, who suppposedly grabs cameras from people if they are taking what I guess are unflattering pics of his mistress, would be in the balcony right next to the phantom paparazzi snapping pics of her in her white bikini down below. lol.

Cut Those Claws! said...

Tami said, "I wouldn't think it would cross her mind. But have long nails (not fake like hers though) and I never scratch holding hands."

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When my nails were really long, my kids would say, "EWWW...you're nails feel like claws" when I held their hands (they weren't THAT long!). I finally cut them way down, and there have been no more complaints. I'm not sure that scratching was the issue. It was just that they felt "weird" to them!
Not everyone holds hands in the same way, nor in the same position.

kate can't do sh** said...

I was watching TLC and a commercial came on for Prince William's pending wedding. TLC is doing some show about it. And guess what the show is called? William, Kate and 8 weddings. They are profiling 8 other royal weddings. Why the hell do they need to keep reminding us of that tool Gosselin. Why is she still circling the drain. Don't they know Kate Middleton is to be referred to as Katherine now? I guess the name Kate brings in the money for TLC.

PurseBoy's Darkroom said...

Someone posted about the movie, Winter's Bone, upthread. I happened to be on Netflix and I looked it up and it is available on a DVD only, not an instant play. It is rated R.

I can't understand why these pictures of kate and her kids Vacation, (judge) are of a low-grade quality. They have to be taken by PursePicBoy.

TLC could of hired a professional cameraman in AU, shoved a non-disclosure agreement in their face and that would buy them another secret among millions!

Shoka's Understudy

Shoka's Understudy said...

ROL is nuts. They are talking about how stunning kate looked (going through the airport) and how her hair is pulled back in a lazy ponytail.

They called her flip-flop wedge trash Flintstone Toe steppers, white sandals.

Also, the picture of ROL looks like they are the same picture on INF but reversed, the one with Aaden and a tup girl, because when I first saw it Aaden was clearly on kates left and on the ROL pic, Aaden is clearly on her right.

Brummygirl said...

Proof that Sheeple follow our every move and comments. One of the regular posters on a certan site, took my quote about Kate's alphabet vacations and ran with it.

Jen said...

I just saw on "The Insider" that according to Hollywood, Kate is "out." Looks like other people are starting to catch on to her hating ways. Yay!

Brummygirl said...

C. said:
She might think he's cute, but I'm sure she's convinced herself that she can do better than a man who isn't a SUPAH STAH like she is.
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I guess Dracula might be interested if the blood bank was closed!!

Berks Has Shoes! said...

Shoka's Understudy said...

ROL is nuts. They are talking about how stunning kate looked (going through the airport) and how her hair is pulled back in a lazy ponytail.

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I could have gotten that lazy ponytail at our local Hairport for a fraction of what she paid (and it would look one hundred percent better).

last2cu said...

Here is an article about her Boobyguard.....

http://celebs.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978884363

AND if that wasn't enough here is another one!

http://celebs.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978891936

kate can't do sh** said...

Controlling women like Kate need men they can dominate. A more dominate man will not be attracted to a tough broad like Kate because he knows what he's up against. As soon as she walks in to a room, men know where they stand with her. She can wish all she wants for someone to take control, and once they do, she will resent it and have to assert her dominance again. That's usually how it works IMO. Kate will always butt heads with her men. She can't help but be aggressive and impatient. She is not passive and servile. That's how she's hardwired.

Can't See Sheep said...

That's another slant on the query of Kate and Steve. Even if Kate wanted him, she comes along with the whole package of eight children, unless they are all sent off to boarding school or Jon.
Steve has seen the inner workings of this family and I doubt whether he would jump into it.
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If k8 truly wants purseboy & the kids are one of the major obstacles in the way, I have no doubt that she will ship them off to whomever ASAP. Perhaps that's one of the reasons (we all know the other reason) why she's been trying to get these jobs on her own. She's trying to make plenty of money to keep them at private school as there's no way she's going to let Jon have them & to be honest I woudln't be suprised that if they did go to private school they would find themsleves left there on the holidays as well. I think k8 would find it very easy to "forget" about her children. But then this is just all just IMO.

Nannersmom said...

This website fits all

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/the-five-most-ignorant-celebrities-of-2010/53460

Been watching and Jon does seem to be changing..but Kate will not. BTW Kate and TLC there is now a judge ruling that the kids are WORKING, that is how you got to go on the latest trip...guess you need to step up to the plate and say this is work not just playing.

A Neild By Any Other Name said...

AND if that wasn't enough here is another one!

http://celebs.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978891936

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Maybe it's just me, but if I were writing an article, I would make sure I knew how to spell the subject's name correctly. There's no excuse for that, and does nothing to establish credibility for the author. Neild, not Nield.

Can't See Sheep said...

Brummygirl said...
C. said:
She might think he's cute, but I'm sure she's convinced herself that she can do better than a man who isn't a SUPAH STAH like she is.
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I guess Dracula might be interested if the blood bank was closed!!
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LOL, yes, but could he bite through that nasty orange hide??? He may chip or break a fang!

Memories said...

readerlady said...
I'd like to revisit a few posts/discussion from last week's thread. Some of the posters are of the opinion that Khate's smacking/slapping/"lovetapping" Jon is just playfulness and of no harm. Others feel it is abusive. So - think about it for a minute. If JON were the one slapping, smacking and "lovetapping" Khate, would it be abusive?
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Toys R Us episode and switch Jon and Kate.

Jon: "KAAAAATE!!!!HELLO!!!!! get over here...honestly Kate you are so useless, get over here and stay with YOUR kids.Stop playing.

Im paraphrasing, but you get where Im going.

That huge heap of free toys are long gone, but the children will have this footage of their mom being incredibly disrespectful to their dad forever.

Captain of the Titanish <-- said...

Forgot to add to my previous post re: Steve.

If Steve took those pictures of Kate lounging in the bikini, why oh why would he have submitted the one with her saggy tummy? Methinks he would have deleted that one. Even if, as I suspect, one of the TLC guys is snapping these (not any sort of papparazzi), why would they release them? I just don't get that. Why make your "star" look less than perfect?

she IS evil said...

More of the role reversal:

"Kate, you're breathing too loud"
"Kate, we need to rein this in" (referring to her gut)
"If a wife truly loved her husband, she would ask, " Jon, how can I help you?""

Did Jon ever interrupt/correct/contradict Kate midsentence?
Did he tap her on the leg as a way to create a diversion and get her to stop talking?
Did he ever 'playfully' slap her across the face?
NO....can't say I would have as much self-control as he did

MINKa's tail said...

Some thoughts and questions:

1. Did the Gosselins see anything in Australia they can't see in America (i.e. kangaroos in the wild, Ayers rock, etc.?) Or was it all zoo animals, beaches and pools?
If so, what a horrible waste of airfare money for TLC and a stupid loss of school time for the 8.

2. Does anyone speculate that this could be some kind of kickoff to an Irwin show on TLC? I would not be surprised at all. It sounds like Terri Irwin has a lot in common with Kate, if the stories I've heard are true.

3. Kate's visit to NZ will be very interesting. If she meets with Steve's parents, it looks like she is his girlfriend. If not--why are they going there? It's not a big kiddy tourist area. To see a Polynesian Maori show (probably) similar to what they saw in Hawaii? To swim some more? See kiwis in a zoo? See a lot of sheep(le)? To see caves (which they also have a lot of in PA)?

Time will tell.

Damage Control said...

Captain of the Titanish <-- said...

Forgot to add to my previous post re: Steve.

If Steve took those pictures of Kate lounging in the bikini, why oh why would he have submitted the one with her saggy tummy? Methinks he would have deleted that one. Even if, as I suspect, one of the TLC guys is snapping these (not any sort of papparazzi), why would they release them? I just don't get that. Why make your "star" look less than perfect?

1/09/2011 8:09 AM
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Maybe she's grifting for a plastic surgery tune-up?

Kittie6 said...

If Steve took those pics of Kate posing in the bikini, who took the one of Steve on the balcony?? And who would send all the pics to the tabloids? Steve would likely not send one of himself. I like to think that he is the mystery photographer and the pic of him was taken with Kate's call phone, but some things just don't match up....

hayden said...

Can't See Sheep said...
If k8 truly wants purseboy & the kids are one of the major obstacles in the way, I have no doubt that she will ship them off to whomever ASAP. Perhaps that's one of the reasons (we all know the other reason) why she's been trying to get these jobs on her own. She's trying to make plenty of money to keep them at private school as there's no way she's going to let Jon have them & to be honest I woudln't be suprised that if they did go to private school they would find themsleves left there on the holidays as well. I think k8 would find it very easy to "forget" about her children. But then this is just all just IMO.
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I share the same opinion with you. IMHO, if Kate had an interest in having a relationship with her children as adults, she wouldn't be forcing this lifestyle on them. To put them through this she seems to have detached herself from the usual motherly, protective instincts most mothers have, in order to convince herself that fame and fortune is more important. Has anyone ever heard her mention her future grandchildren? I never have. I think she knows she won't be a part of their lives anyway. And in the off chance she is, she will be one of those vain Grandmas who makes the grandkids call her Kate and see them only on holidays. Again, just my opinion.

K8. Fan. No more. said...

"Why make your "star" look less than perfect?"

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When someone appears perfect, no one wants to watch them, because NO ONE is perfect. People like to watch shows/people they can relate to. People like to see that other people have the same problems/imperfections they do. I think that's what bothers most of us about Kate; EVERYONE has problems, she tried to ACT perfect. She tries to make herself "better than" us common folk. It's not the filming of the kids I have a problem with, it's how she ignores the problems in her/their life and carts them around the country/golbe pretending everything us wonderful and if something IS wrong, it's never her fault. Let us see you struggle Kate!! Let us see you tutoring and helping your kids with their homework, Carting them to soccer, or karate, or birthday parties for school mates, working things out to co-parent with Jon. Work on being a better MOM AND PERSON.... Now THAT I'd like to see. Not you sunbathing in Australia!!!!!

Ohio Buckeye said...

@K8 Can't Do $#*^: Agreed.

I doubt K8G even gets it, but there really is no way for ANY man to be right for K8G.

She requires a docile, subservient partner who will unquestioningly do everything her way (she will STILL criticize his efforts because she really believes no one ever does anything as well as SHE does). Yet, she disrespects men who allow themselves to be steamrolled by her. It's a Catch-22.

She sets herself (and her partner) up to fail - there is no way to win in this kind of relationship set up.

so much lipo said...

You bring up a good point, Captain, when you ask why Steve, if he took the bikini pix, would include that nauseating shot of Kate's pruny belly to sell to the paps. Maybe he didn't take them. But those pix were certainly taken with his OK, or he is the worst bodyguard on the planet. Whoever took them did so with kate's knowledge and approval (desperation) to do so. Perhaps a tlc crew member or someone like Ashley took them. And whoever let that gross picture go to the paps may have done so as a passive-aggressive move. Seriously. Wouldn't you find her stupid seductive posing annoying? Especially with all her botching about the paps that she so adores? So whoever took them was in on the Kon with Kate and Steve, but maybe hates her just a little bit. Have we heard of anyone who likes her? And no one could possibly find this desperate quest for attention on her part amusing...especially those left to take care of her kids, who she couldnt me bothered to take care of herself. Never have I seen someone so willing to delegate their motherly duties to anyone willing to do it for her. Never have I seen a so-called mother who truly thinks she shouldn't take care of her own kids. Those tips have been her excuse for everything: 'needing' all that help and freebies, 'needing' to exploit them on tv because she has NO back up plan or source of income beyond this stupidity. Arghh. And you can bet the next time we see her in a bikini that that deflated testicle will be gone. That wrinkly mess is a result of lipo. She used to have a kangaroo pouch of fat there, in addition to two extra chins, in the past. Sadly for her, she's still not hot and not attracting any men despite all that money wasted on her looks.

Gaby said...

But would Kate want to date some Stah that would upstage her? I think toward the end of the Jon/ Kate marriage, Kate was jealous of Jon's stardom. Most people were way more interested in Jon than Kate. And Kate had big issues with that concept.
IMO I think Kate would enjoy dating a man who would play second fiddle to her. In her perfect world, there is Queen Kate, purseboy/ servant Steve and her eight little ATM's.

Tummy tuck said...

Captain of the Titanish <-- said...

If Steve took those pictures of Kate lounging in the bikini, why oh why would he have submitted the one with her saggy tummy? Methinks he would have deleted that one. Even if, as I suspect, one of the TLC guys is snapping these (not any sort of papparazzi), why would they release them? I just don't get that. Why make your "star" look less than perfect?

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This wasn't the first time saggy tummy skin pictures of Kate have been published. Mexico, is one example, I believe.

Snow Globe said...

This wasn't the first time saggy tummy skin pictures of Kate have been published. Mexico, is one example, I believe.

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Don't forget those pictures of her jogging near her home. Cellulite, sagging skin, turkey neck. Who took those? Chris? When compared to the People cover, it didn't look like the same person!

Friend Or Foe said...

Minka said,

Kate's visit to NZ will be very interesting. If she meets with Steve's parents, it looks like she is his girlfriend.

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Not necessarily. Just because a woman meets with the parents of a male "friend" doesn't mean that she is his girlfriend! If that were true, then no women would ever be introduced to, or be friends with the parents of a male acquaintance.

Lillie Mae Acres said...

I think years from now, the Dionne quints and the Gosselin sextuplets are going to be compared ALOT more than any of us would care for. It's just too late for what most of us call "normal". These kids are not going to grow up to live successful and addiction free lives. I just don't see it. I just hope they are able to sue TLC, their mom, and the judges that refuse to make things right with a ruling in favor of their future well-being. That's just my opinion!
I also do not understand why they are still on tv. Why are people still watching them and supporting this show?

Proud Grandma said...

Someone else said "Kate's visit to NZ will be very interesting. It's not a big kiddy tourist area. To see a Polynesian Maori show (probably) similar to what they saw in Hawaii? To swim some more? See kiwis in a zoo? See a lot of sheep(le)? To see caves (which they also have a lot of in PA)?"

In fairness to NZ, it is a country of astounding beauty and diversity. The Maori culture is fascinating and maybe they could learn more than the Hakka and the Stick game. But it's a start. The Islands are so different from North to South. Down in Invercargill and Dunedin, there are tons of sheep and it looks a bit like (ok a lot like ) Scotland. The North Island, up north is tropical and beautiful. I could go on and on about this wonderful country, but there is more to NZ than sheep and glow worm caves, TLC could really take this opportunity to promote the country over the Grosslins. Oh, and the Maori culture does not have dancing girls in skipmy grass skirts twitching their hips. I found the Maori dances to be much more graceful and delightful than those in Hawaii.

ChurchMouse said...

K8. Fan. No more. said...
"...It's not the filming of the kids I have a problem with, it's how she ignores the problems in her/their life..."

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The two are interconnected.

C said...

hayden said...
"IMHO, if Kate had an interest in having a relationship with her children as adults, she wouldn't be forcing this lifestyle on them."

I agree, but then, you and I apparently understand that the relationship--or lack thereof--between an adult and his or her parents is based on many factors. Besides lacking empathy and an ability to foresee the consequences of her actions, Kate likely figures that her kids will owe her a relationship--on her terms--because she's their MOTHER! (Dun-dun-dun!)

In her view, she treats them wonderfully, and even if she didn't, her behavior and choices would be irrelevant--she birthed 'em, so they owe her whatever she demands. As children, they "owe" her screen time so mommy can dress like the dirty butt-crack of Hollywood; as adults, they'll "owe" her fawning attention and submission to the wise and all-knowing mommy.

Poor kids.

Creepy "Disciplinarian" said...

What the heck? One of you posted a link to Youtube - "Kids Misbehaving". Kate is putting the kids in time-out as punishment, but she is holding a thick stick - it looks like a wooden paper towel tube. I've never noticed this before! She's sinister.

path said...

If Kate cannot appreciate the beauty of the Alaskan wilderness, do you think she'd appreciate NZ unique sights except from poolside at an exclusive retreat?!!??? Don't forget the hand washing materials, bug spray, paper towels & a place to make sandwiches!!! Ugh!!

Couple of wives of paps & proud of it said...

I wrote this before and I will write this again. The paps in NY and even LA and Vegas were willing to bid on going to Australia and accompany the Great One and her 8 burps.

No one answered any of them. Some of these paps are well known, do fine work, make the worse people look sensational, natural and all the crap that goes with it.

My hubby would have gone in a heart beat to get a connection with TLC for pix that could be sold onto outlets and then he would have made a bundle. No one was asked or bidded on the trip.

Except for the pix, my hubby said that Steve takes. No paps took those photos. That is why you see them on ROL and INF first and then they are picked up by other outlets.

Kate and her counterpart have been doing this for years.

The paps don't like Steve, but when he is in the USA and that call is made that the Princess is getting a hair cut or whatever, they run. Why? They need the money. They have to live, they have families.

Now someone keeps asking why tlc doesn't release photos to the outlets? Again, I will tell you TLC only releases video segments on it's own channels, never to the media outlets. If it is picked up after being released on TLC, then all it gets is press covereage.

There are no straight pix released from TLC until film footage of an episode is released. You will notice that yourself.

Hubby said that a lot of what Kate has been doing in Aus and wherever has been hidden from view. TLC wants to have a big expose' for viewers, hoping to improve viewership.

It is all business, money business.

When was the last time anyone saw Kate the Great posing with a fan? Never, not since she was hawking her books. She does not pose.

Yeah, that big guy she posed with is a fan of her? Or a fan of the kids? Please that was Steve trying to make her look normal.

Why no photos of Kate with a woman and her dgtr at the airport? There weren't any, that is why.

That big guy, according to my hubby, could have been local bodyguard hired to help with security in NZ.

Oh well, get use to is folks, if there is money to be made, only people making a penny off of taking photos of those kids, is kate and steve.

Tami said...

The "love" taps--the kids witness them and then hit each other, hit teachers at school etc. Is that ok? Is it ever ok to pretend to hit someone? I don't think so. I beieve there are very few people who enjoy having someone pretend to hit them. It's invasive, annoying and threatening. If the kids pretend to hit everyone in class, they will clearly be in trouble. If the adults pretended to hit the kids or animals on tv, everyone would be up in arms. But it's ok and cute when Kate does it to Jon. I don't think so.

Tami said...

Forgot to add to my previous post re: Steve.

If Steve took those pictures of Kate lounging in the bikini, why oh why would he have submitted the one with her saggy tummy? Methinks he would have deleted that one. Even if, as I suspect, one of the TLC guys is snapping these (not any sort of papparazzi), why would they release them? I just don't get that. Why make your "star" look less than perfect?

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Well here is a theory: Maybe he expected them to be airbrushed like all the others. Remember the jogging pics and how it looked like a 6 pack and yet the untouched ones showed wrinkles, cellulite and flab? Perhaps PB's editing software is at home on his ocmputer so he sent them off to the sites thinking they would airbrush them as usual. Because you see that some of them do look retouched!

Tami said...

TLC could really take this opportunity to promote the country over the Grosslins. Oh, and the Maori culture does not have dancing girls in skipmy grass skirts twitching their hips. I found the Maori dances to be much more graceful and delightful than those in Hawaii
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When I think of NZ I think of the movie Whale Rider. I'd love to go there myself. But I think it's completely inappropriate for her to take her 8 kids there, for a show that the public will see, no less. Why would TLC think it's ok for her to go the homeland of her lover? Or even if he's only her perceived lover, it's still ridiculous to pull a stunt like that. It would be like sending Jon to the country of some alleged girlfriend if the roles were reversed.

Minka's Tail said...

I didn't mean to diss New Zealand as a tourist attraction. It's a place I would absolutely love to go some day. But I stand by my idea that the kids are a little young for many of its attractions, except for maybe the glow worm cave, and mainly Alexis and Aaden would like that. Kids in kindergarten probably wouldn't comprehend the difference in the amount of sheep on a NZ sheep farm or at the local Amish sheep farm. They probably wouldn't tell the difference between the beautiful scenery of NZ or the scenery of anywhere else. This prove that these vacations are for Kate--not for the kids. Too bad she seems so miserable on them.

I also contend that if Kate meets the Neilds and it's filmed, that is their coming out party as a couple. After being absolutely, horrified, disgusted, that she was accused of having an affair with him (but never actually denying it)--and then meeting his parents without his wife and kids there? That's not the same as meeting the parents of your platonic opposite-sex buddy.

Hit, slap, beat, kick, swat said...

Hitting? The YT and TLC videos of those 8 kids, except for Cara I think, do not just pat each other or tap, tap and run. They body punch, they throw themselves on each other, they trip each other, they slap the living daylights out of each other and they kick and they kick and they kick. Then when they have done all of that, they trip each other, throw a kick and run away. I have seen video of Alexis, the little one? Yep she imitates karate body blocks on tups that are bigger than she it. I think she could beat up all the others, honestly. She is a tough cookie.

Now, where did they learn all of this? Could Kate have them watching her hitting Jon all those years? Or when the camera was off, did she have them watching Jack ass on TV instead of reading them a bed time story? No way did she or Jon spend time teaching those kids, never and we never saw that either in the TLC shows/episodes.

Remember the trip to NY with just Kate 8? Cara told the tups about the Statue of Liberty while Kate sat on that train, chumping on gum, crossed legs and swinging a leg. She no more wanted to be on that train and those kids were 6 at that time last Summer during the NY trip.

No way is Kate a mother with an interest in her children. No way. She is a false version of an amateur actor pretending to care about her kids.

If you had 2 children out of 8 with severe emotional disorders, why would you reward them with this trip? Why wouldn't you leave them at home to work with the therapis, do the basics which probably include reading, your numbers.

Today children in K, not pre K, have the alphabet and their numbers understood, in most cases. When their mothers say they know them. Or in Kate's case pretends all 6 of those tups are presented as though they growing and maturing at the same rate.

Doubt that is happening. Could Alexis and Collin be slower, not had this dealt with and be raging because of this? Oh damn right.

She has ruined their lives, continues to ruin their lives.

If they were holding the Olympics in Australia as they did several years ago, well then I could understand her taking all 8 out of school for something like that, but to drag them around the sun, zoo and airports and more hotel rooms. Where is she while those kids are in the hotel rooms with the babysitters/nannies????????

Is she and Steve playing spring board on the bed? In her dreams, for sure.

There is no way he trusts Kate, he knows she will ruin him life, absolutely. I think that is why he always has a driver take them to NY, so that it is never just him and her alone; yet, something is not exactly right in this whole picture.

Jon? Come on Jon, give us the whole scoop on her and what she does, he does and how she has all the money and how much she does give Jon?

When she gets back and goes on TV to promote the TLC episodes in Philadelphia and Australia and New Zealand (3 @ $250,000.00) how many talk shows will she be on? The Today Show? for sure. I want to see The View get on top of her like they did with the Octomom and hit her with every questions so her head was spinning.

debbie jo said...

OK, so on the last episode of Sarah Palin's Alaska, she and her dad commented on the Kate episode. They showed some of the "low lights" of that episode, and her dad tried to be nice, but Sarah made it clear that "you would think Kate would have given it the old college try!"

Sarah's dad then said, "I never heard those kids complain...not once".

They had Kate's whiney complaints going over the pictures of the kids running around, fishing, coats open, no mittens on, etc.

Yep, TLC did this to their "Star".

HW said...

Minka said,

Kate's visit to NZ will be very interesting. If she meets with Steve's parents, it looks like she is his girlfriend.

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Not necessarily. Just because a woman meets with the parents of a male "friend" doesn't mean that she is his girlfriend! If that were true, then no women would ever be introduced to, or be friends with the parents of a male acquaintance.

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But Kate insists Steve is only her bodyguard. She has never claimed him to be her male "friend."

Can't have it both ways.....

Carrin said...

Creepy "Disciplinarian" said...
What the heck? One of you posted a link to Youtube - "Kids Misbehaving". Kate is putting the kids in time-out as punishment, but she is holding a thick stick - it looks like a wooden paper towel tube. I've never noticed this before! She's sinister.

1/09/2011 2:37 PM

It is a hollow tube of some sort. I don't think it is a wooden dowel or paper towel holder. It looks plastic to me. I think it scared the kids more than it hurt. Well, at least, it wasn't as dangerous as wood. But plastic can hurt plenty, too, if struck strongly on little bodies.

Friend Or Foe said...

But Kate insists Steve is only her bodyguard. She has never claimed him to be her male "friend."

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Yes, she did. She stated on television that Steve was a close friend (as well as Gina). I wish I could remember on what show this was discussed. I'm not sure if it was a talk show or an episode. I remember her saying they were friends for nine years and at the time, I was trying to remember when he was hired because I didn't think he was with her that long, and I wasn't aware that she knew Gina and Steve before Steve was hired.

Jane in California said...

Oh well, get use to is folks, if there is money to be made, only people making a penny off of taking photos of those kids, is kate and steve.
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Well, it makes sense. Remember when Kate pitched a fit because Jodi & Kevin were offered a small amount by TLC for filming? That's when Kate cut them immediately out of her life, and the children's lives. Supposedly she screamed at her own brother that no one was going to make any money except for her (and Jon). I'm sure her opinion hasn't changed one bit over the years, only now the only ones allowed to make money from photos are Kate and her slimy Kiwi.

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Claudia said...

Carrin:

After re-reading your post - I may have been a little harsh. Hitting those babies really is a touchy subject with me. It makes me a little crazy.

Anyway, that's why I love this site, I believe at its core are whole lot of people who wholeheartedly want the best for the 8.

readerlady said...

Tami, Unfortunately, Khate didn't "pretend" to hit Jon. She hit Jon. In some of the episodes, you could hear the smack when she administered her "love taps". So the kids didn't witness an adult "pretending" to hit, they observed their mother hitting their father. At the age they were then, even the twins, it's difficult for children to differentiate genuine "love taps" from an actual hit. I don't think Khate's "love taps" were really "taps". I think they were slaps, smacks and hits, intended to inflict pain.

Friend or Foe - I remember Khate making that statement about Steve and Gina too. Don't remember what show it was on, though. I thought at the time that it was another of her lies or exaggerations, because the twins would have been infants at the time she claimed they became friends, and I believe that Steve would have still been a police officer in NZ then, as well. Just another of Khate's attempts at deflection. She's a mistress of the art. Shame she can't keep track of her lies and manages to contradict herself every time she opens her mouth, isn't it? LOL.

lovetoread62 said...

The "love" taps--the kids witness them and then hit each other, hit teachers at school etc. Is that ok? Is it ever ok to pretend to hit someone? I don't think so. I beieve there are very few people who enjoy having someone pretend to hit them. It's invasive, annoying and threatening. If the kids pretend to hit everyone in class, they will clearly be in trouble. If the adults pretended to hit the kids or animals on tv, everyone would be up in arms. But it's ok and cute when Kate does it to Jon. I don't think so.
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So true! This reminds me of that episode of "Friends" when Joey is dating a woman who "playfully" smacks him, and it hurts. Rachel ends up turning the tables on her and playfully smacking her. She didn't like it one bit. What would happen if the kids gave mommy some "love taps"..., maybe when they are 15 or 16?

Friend Or Foe said...

Friend or Foe - I remember Khate making that statement about Steve and Gina too. Don't remember what show it was on, though. I thought at the time that it was another of her lies or exaggerations, because the twins would have been infants at the time she claimed they became friends...

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Yes, I remember thinking that the twins would have been babies, and couldn't figure out how she would have known Steve at that time. She did use the term "good friend." Does the "nine years" sound about right? That number just sticks in my mind for some reason.

HW said...

Friend Or Foe said...
But Kate insists Steve is only her bodyguard. She has never claimed him to be her male "friend."

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Yes, she did. She stated on television that Steve was a close friend (as well as Gina). I wish I could remember on what show this was discussed. I'm not sure if it was a talk show or an episode. I remember her saying they were friends for nine years and at the time, I was trying to remember when he was hired because I didn't think he was with her that long, and I wasn't aware that she knew Gina and Steve before Steve was hired.

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I think you are right. I apologize.
I think it was in a print article somewhere that she claimed that Steve and his family had been her close friends for several years.

Whic brings up a couple of questions. Why were they never on the show before? Why would TLC hire a "friend" to protect one of their stars? That seems like a conflict of interest. Why would Kate allow her "friend" Steve to earn money from her show but she wouldn't allow Jodi and Kevin to earn money for being on and taking care of her children? How could Steve maintain the proper professional standards if he is supposed to be concentrating on her protection but is distracted by the conversations, etc that come with a friendship?

I guess Steve is her bodyguard AND her friend. How convenient.

Mollie said...

I think anyone who has followed Kate for a while knows that she is a prolific liar, and either very bad at lying/keeping her lies straight or such an egomaniac that she thinks the rest of the world should just accept whatever comes out of her mouth at any given moment as gospel.

What Steve appears to be is Kate's handler, hired to keep her under control so TLC can get the footage they need. He's no doubt found it much easier to do it by exploiting her egomania and flirting with her, than by being assertive and having to fight that same egomania every step of the way.

New friend said...

Friend Or Foe said...
(Re: Steve) I remember her saying they were friends for nine years and at the time, I was trying to remember when he was hired because I didn't think he was with her that long, and I wasn't aware that she knew Gina and Steve before Steve was hired.

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Kate had never met Steve until he was hired to squire her around the country by TLC in '08. As for knowing them for 9 years - no way. Maybe you're confusing this friendship with Jamie who she's known since the twins were young.

Friends w/benefits said...

The statement that Steve and Gina were her good "friends" was made during one of her interviews. Probably with Merideth, but I'm not sure about that. The comment was relevant to Kate having lunch with Gina and then people speculating that she had bought a condo near them because there was one for sale near where they lunched. Kate also had the two of them over for Thanksgiving dinner in 2009 and again commented on how close they were. So this statement probably has been made during interviews and on an episode.

Funny how Kate's "good friends" come and go in her life.

For me, Steve's feelings regarding Kate were made clear on the taxi ride (this was a show all about how hard Kate's life is) when he was very harsh with her and trying to get her to make a decision. He was clearly not impressed with her.

K8. Fan. No more. said...

Friends w/ benefits said:
"For me, Steve's feelings regarding Kate were made clear on the taxi ride (this was a show all about how hard Kate's life is) when he was very harsh with her and trying to get her to make a decision. He was clearly not impressed with her."
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What us this you are referring to? I am interested in seeing this.

Tami said...

Tami, Unfortunately, Khate didn't "pretend" to hit Jon. She hit Jon. In some of the episodes, you could hear the smack when she administered her "love taps". So the kids didn't witness an adult "pretending" to hit, they observed their mother hitting their father. At the age they were then, even the twins, it's difficult for children to differentiate genuine "love taps" from an actual hit. I don't think Khate's "love taps" were really "taps". I think they were slaps, smacks and hits, intended to inflict pain.


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Yes, they were real slaps, but everyone, especially Kate, classifies them as just cute little playful things and not real violence. Ok, so when I say everyone I mean the sheeple and people who engage in this kind of behavior themselves, but I just don't think anyone should brush this off as just playing. It's passive aggressive and not at all cute.

Tami said...

I thought it was Jamie that she pretended was her bff for 9 years because they met in a twins group. She probably pretends she has been best friends with everyone for length of time because it sounds better than the actual truth; that she is friends with no one.

Glenda said...

K8. Fan. No more. said...
Friends w/ benefits said:
"For me, Steve's feelings regarding Kate were made clear on the taxi ride (this was a show all about how hard Kate's life is) when he was very harsh with her and trying to get her to make a decision. He was clearly not impressed with her."
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What us this you are referring to? I am interested in seeing this.

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It was on the episode where Kate talks about her life now. I think it aired right after the first episode of Kate plus 8.

Anonymous said...

I believe the interview you are thinking of when Kate stated that Steve and Gina were her friends was with Natalie Morales. She made a comment that they were about the only friends she had left or something to that effect.

Mammy

Jane in California said...

Mollie said:
I think anyone who has followed Kate for a while knows that she is a prolific liar, ...[snip]

What Steve appears to be is Kate's handler, hired to keep her under control so TLC can get the footage they need. ... [snip]
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I certainly agree with you on the first remark. In fact, I think Kate has a hard time not lying, even when there is no need to. I had a roommate years ago who was a pathological liar, and it was second nature to her. She didn't even get embarrassed when caught, but started in on another lie to explain the first one!

As to Steve - based on what I've observed about Kate's personality, I don't believe she could have any sort of real relationship with a partner or spouse. Her controlling, domineering nature, mixed with her narcissism, would seem to make it impossible to have what most of us would consider a marriage or partnership.

Steve doesn't seem like a Caspar Milquetoast, or passive and easily led as Jon was.

So putting two and two together, I don't see how it could equal a romance or any sort of personal relationship. I see Steve as a man who saw an opportunity to make a lot of money, and he was willing to do what it took to accomplish that. The economy is tough and has been hard for the last few years - why would he turn down a gig that pays him (at minimum) $1,600 per day, plus travel to various locales?

I have a feeling his wife is probably unhappy with the arrangement, but agrees because it pays the bills, keeps them in a nice home, etc. (Who knows, maybe he's the "Kate" in that relationship and basically tells her how it's going to be, and she passively accepts it because she doesn't want to rock the boat?)

I can't have respect for Steve's business decision, because he must see how Kate treats those children when the cameras are off, and does nothing but continue to rake in the dollars.

Shoka's Understudy said...

Yes, kate said that she and Gina and PurseBoy were friends for at that point in time for 9 years. There is no way! That is a bald-faced lie. She did not meet him until TLC hired him to be the wrangler of kate.

kate, here is a way for you to Prove you and Gina and her husband Steve were long time pals. Leak a picture of you and Gina and steve during the years of your friendship. Surely, you have at least one.

I am not holding my breath.

Kate fan. No more.
The taxi ride with kate and PurseBoy is when she was on DWTS. She was whining about not going to dance practice with Tony b/c she had just found out something about court and the children. Playing to the camera that she is a single mom struggling to blah blah blah and this big obstacle that just came up blah blah blah. She looked like she was at the point of madness, staring out of the window and twirling her hair with her finger! And then PurseBoy called whoever and said that kate would not be coming to practice. Then she said, I just want to sleep.

Believe me kate, you will one day.

Shoka's Understudy said...

About the "love taps". These are not taps. Ask Emeril Lagasse. When he came to cook for the kids, they responded to Emeril just like they did to Mr. Palin on SPA.

Emeril and kate and her red wooden spoon were at the counter and they were talking and she started cackling and all of a sudden she whacked Emeril and he was like, WT..., and her head just went back and laughed. Then she had the bowling balls to hit him again, just a few seconds or not even a minute later, still laughing. He was looking at her, stunned. As soon as she hit him the second time, he was actually rubbing his arm and looking at her like she was crazy! The reason why he was rubbing his arm is because when she first hit him, his arm was stinging and when she hit him again, it was really stinging. I am trying to remember the episode, but I am really close.

If that would of been 2 guys and one was a Chef and the other a Celebrity and if the celebrity would of done that to the Chef, I believe it would of either almost or come to blows. She had no right to hit Emeril, it was crazy.

The tap that kate did to Jon was actually a slap to Jon, when she said don't be victim, it is unattractive. The sound of that tap is very loud. It was a Slap!

Has she ever worked or volunteered at a ER when a young girl comes in after being physically attacked? Would she tell her it was sooo unattractive to her to play the victim?

Wouldn't put it past her!

She is a lying hipocrit because she played the poor victim to the whole world of having bills in her purse and that she couldn't drop them in the mail, then after the interview, goes to NOBU with her dear PurseBoy and eats a 174 dollar lunch.

Believe me kate, that morning you looked so totally nausating and unattractive on the Today show that morning, playing the victim, grifting and winking for potential donors to keep up your lavish lifestyle.

TexasTwang said...

Does anyone remember the little "Love Swats" she gave to Emeril Lagasse? Weren't they done with a spatula? I seem to recall that she showed a total lack of respect to the guest chef and he was so polite to everyone.

Bubbles said...

http://www.popeater.com/2009/05/12/did-kate-gosselin-cheat-with-bodyguard/

I don't recall ever hearing a time frame on how long the Neilds had supposedly been friends with Kate, but this article was when she first tried to put the spin on about how they're such "close friends." She even acknowledges in the article that they are her LAST friends...for once, she speaks the truth!

I do remember her saying she'd been friends with Jamie for 8 or 9 years when Jamie first showed up last year, so maybe people are mixing that up. It's still hard to believe she and Jamie were "best friends" all that time yet we somehow never heard about her before.

Jane in California said...

Shoka's Understudy said:
She was whining about not going to dance practice with Tony b/c she had just found out something about court and the children. Playing to the camera that she is a single mom struggling to blah blah blah and this big obstacle that just came up blah blah blah. She looked like she was at the point of madness, staring out of the window and twirling her hair with her finger! A
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Although I heard about this incident, I didn't know or see the video that goes along with it. It seems to me that Kate really can't cope well with life in general. She has several nannies to take care of the children, and I'm sure she has someone else clean the house, do the cooking and the laundry, etc. All she does is go out to Fed Ex or the copy place, get her nails done, get a tan, go clothes shopping, and maybe pump gas for a photo op. And even with this minimal effort at life, she's basically at her limit.

So she signs up for DWTS, yet she won't go to practice. She signs up to guest appear on Palin's Alaska show, and do an overnight of camping -- and she lasts 2 hours before basically breaking down into pitying tears over how awful and horrible it all is, and how she's "HUNGRY!" and being eaten alive by insects, and there is nothing to wash her hands with, wah wah wah.

This woman is not mentally equipped to deal with normal, every day life. I think she didn't realize how much Jon did for her and the children, and now that he's gone -- look how many other people have to come in to fill his shoes!

Kate may have the McMansion, the money and the dubious fame, but I bet Jon is sooooooooooooooooooo much happier in his new life than Kate will ever be in hers.

Now, all that remains is to get those kids out of the toxic environment. They may simply have to endure another ten or so years (less for the twins) before they can break free.

I have given up much hope that there is anything we or other outsiders can do to put any good protections in place for the Gosselin children. However, I surely hope that enough pressure can be applied to get Federal laws passed in the future, to save other children from the same mis-treatment and financial unfairness. Parents should not be allowed to make their minor children work to support the parents; nor should powerful networks be allowed to invade children's privacy when their parents fail in their responsibility to protect them.

Big Red Spatula said...

The episode when Kate hit Emeril Lagasse was their 100th episode. I remember that because Emeril turned to Jon, gave him a look, and said he couldn't believe they made it to number 100, clearly referring to crazy Kate.

some paps are working very hard said...

This is what we know to be truthful. One of the biggest media outlets which has a large spying employees is checking 2 things right now: #1 That Neild Family including wife is still in MD and not in NZ. #2 That Kate or her production company has bought or is buying a property in up state NY.

So, tonight we might have the answers to both.

This is not exactly a big paying job as a pix of Sandy Bullock and Ryan Reynolds could get them a bigger payout, but someone at this media show feels that it is about time to blow the whistle on Kate.

Seems that Jon or someone from his family has put a "bug in someone's ear" about he kids being moved which would hurt Jon and than providing that Jon did not cheat but that Kate did cheat, long before Jon left to live on top of the garage.

Kate has made a lot of enemies, not just us, on here,so has TLC made some big enemies.

Looks like someone really big is going after TLC by way of proving Kate is more than an abuser of children but that more than that takes place.

Maybe Jon really did make some friends in high places.

Steve's Walmart zoom lens said...

K8. Fan. No more. said...

"....Let us see you struggle Kate!! Let us see you tutoring and helping your kids with their homework, Carting them to soccer, or karate, or birthday parties for school mates, working things out to co-parent with Jon. Work on being a better MOM AND PERSON.... Now THAT I'd like to see. Not you sunbathing in Australia!!!!!"
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Yeah.... no. Kate doesn't do mom, she just plays one on TV. I met a woman at a New Year's eve party (I live in PA) whose children attend the same school as the Gosselin children. When I asked her about the expulsions, she kind of gave the same answer Kate did on the "Today" show. I didn't expect her to say more. But she did verify, as we've heard many, many times before, Kate does not attend or help out at any school functions. Kate hasn't been seen at a school event in over a year and at that she and Steve slipped in after it was dark and slipped out before it was over. I wonder if any of the kids have ever asked her why she doesn't come like all the other mommies?

Kate's making memories for these kids all right. She better keep a stable full of shrinks on speed dial when she is confronted with these "memories" some day.

EllaBeanie said...

She's at it again!

http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/10/kate-gosselin-jon-gosselin-jon-and-kate-court-contempt-child-custody-selling-tweeing/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

What I want to know is, what custody order did he possibly break, and how on EARTH is he the money grubbing one???

Way to go again, Khate!

anotherthing said...

via TMZ:

"We've learned Kate's lawyers filed a Petition for Contempt of Custody Order last Thursday.

Sources connected with the case tell TMZ ... Kate believes Jon is squarely violating the judge's custody order -- prohibiting either of them from talking about the case -- by allegedly selling information about the case and tweeting his displeasure of the judge's various decisions.

We're told Kate is claiming Jon is willfully disobeying the orders, mostly to make a buck, and she wants the judge to modify the custody agreement to protect the kids from their alleged money-grubbing dad.

We're told a hearing is set for later this month."
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I have NO words. :O Ok... i do, just a few tho and they are:

are. you. freaking. kidding. me.

anotherthing... said...

however, here are some of the comments from that TMZ story -and please note that this is a direct and untampered with copy-:

"Money gubbing dad? Has she takened a look at herself lately?"

"Just when I thought that they had faded away. They're BAAACK"

"Yeah Kate...HE'S a money grubber *insert eye roll here*. I'm reminded of a line from Friends "Hi kettle, this is pot, we're black". (pot calling the kettle black).

*idiot*"

"I hold them both in contempt, great contempt"

"I would like to buy them for what they are worth and sell them for what they think they are worth...they just need to go away."

not one edit, i swear. seriously, there are much more rude ones, that would get edited out here.

basicly what im saying is, its not just us.

;)

mama san said...

just read on TMZ that Kate is suing Jon Again for "selling information." WTF Her job must really be going down the tubes. And she needs more publicity.

She is a worthless human said...

Kate hit Emeril twice during that episode, first was her version of Bam and he flinched and said "ouch" as he glimpses at her.

Then in the second part of the, she hit Emeril again after he defended Jon and said 'don't be so hard on him" and Bamb, emeril gets hit.

There was also a segment where before the stringbeans can be touched by the kids, Kate sends 2 of the girls to the bathroom closer to the kitchen. Neither kid uses the door knob, no...just keeps with their backs and the back of their shoes hits and hits and hits and hits and the noise is really houd, so the door finally opens just before Kate's face turns color and begins to head toward that bathroom.

So, I would think those kids were not trained to open a bathroom door with the doorknob. Wow. That was amazing as they were 5 during the episode.

Know what else really bothered me, while she holds cup after cup of coffe, is making fun of Jon, making fun of Jon, it was constant. He was braking the garlic and maybe not as fast as Kate might have been. But OMG, she never allowed him in the kitchen during filming, always running the whole show, her kitchen, her everything, nothing about Jon being allowed to be the man. Of course, I rack them up to him being young, he was young, but the look on his face and that of Mady and Cara's was sad.

Bet those kids hated when Emeril left. Someone who took an interest in all of the kids and made them feel like a real family, except Jon continued to be embarrassed in front of the entire viewership.

Oh well, guess Jon grew some since those days of her.

Red Spatula Slapper said...

The discussion, when Kate had her do curled, a blue cocktail dress on and they were in the LIMO, not a taxi. Steve told her about someone (some people) betraying her and she was pretending to cry. He said, "she does not understand how many people do not like her and is upset with everything going on, DWTS, and he asked her to make a decision and tapped on her the arm, no love pat, but a "hey, listen to me and answer" and then said " I wll tell them you are going to sleep and practice dancing later" and she said "I need to sleep".......

I guess she saw a Meryl Streep interview and Meryl must have said, "I'm tired and need sleep".....

What would the Ho have really said if she really had to raise her children, all 8, without maide, housekeepers, laundress', ironers, folders, cleaners, lawn maintenance on all over 10 or so acres of land?

Please Sister Teresa, move over, Sister Kate is there to take your place. Oh the Sisters of charity? Oh sorry, got the wrong Sisters.

NT said...

This just popped up on TMZ;We've learned Kate's lawyers filed a Petition for Contempt of Custody Order last Thursday.

Sources connected with the case tell TMZ ... Kate believes Jon is squarely violating the judge's custody order -- prohibiting either of them from talking about the case -- by allegedly selling information about the case and tweeting his displeasure of the judge's various decisions.

We're told Kate is claiming Jon is willfully disobeying the orders, mostly to make a buck, and she wants the judge to modify the custody agreement to protect the kids from their alleged money-grubbing dad.

We're told a hearing is set for later this month

so sick of her said...

Well, here's a kicker, (a let's kick Jon under the bus, cause we are not popular in Aussie or the US cause they are not reporting or talking about ME Kate, YOU FANS)It seems that Kate is beyond words: she is taking Jon to court, for comtempt, cause he, leaked about the court stuff. The articles and Kate did not say what was leaked, and that Jon is selling info for MONEY! Ain't that something, she gets the right to sell pics of her kids to the tabs, take them out of the country and school to WORK! And I don't know who leaked, that they went to court to stop the trip, but I don't think it was Jon and he did not profit from anything he has said either, but Kate has, and perhaps she is MAD cause she did not think of it herself. She is GREEDY! Now she wants the court to adjust custody, to protect the kids from Jon's selling out his kids. There must be something wrong with the PA court system, Kate Gosselin and TLC. They really are GREEDY! There are no words anymore!

Scratching My Head said...

I'm wondering if this latest Petition for Contempt against Jon might be due to the rumor about the alleged move to NY?

The bitter b*tch would grab at anything to throw him under the bus once again.

Can't See Sheep said...

so sick of her said...
Well, here's a kicker, (a let's kick Jon under the bus, cause we are not popular in Aussie or the US cause they are not reporting or talking about ME Kate, YOU FANS)It seems that Kate is beyond words: she is taking Jon to court, for comtempt, cause he, leaked about the court stuff. The articles and Kate did not say what was leaked, and that Jon is selling info for MONEY! Ain't that something, she gets the right to sell pics of her kids to the tabs, take them out of the country and school to WORK!
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I wouldn't be surprised that if behind what k8 is doing is keeping Jon "off his feet", so to speak. Keep him poor, keep him broke so that the children can't move in with him & so that he can't start any serious case against her or finance any on behalf of the children. May not directly be k8's strategy but it could be purseboy's influence, TLC's or part of her legal team's strategy.

Just because she's delusional, doesn't mean they are, they probably know what's coming & the longer they can keep her paying the more money for them. Just like the longer TLC can keep the kids from mounting a lawsuit against them the more time they have to prepare. K8 could very well end up getting herself milked dry & well Jon has not been nearly as money grubbing the last while as she herself is.

This makes me think a lot about projection, a trait a number of narcissists have. She is the one who behaves like she is above the law & she's also the one working the kids for everything they're worth. She's been the one who's been looking to exploit multiples for a very long time, Jon just seems like the dopey yo-yo that got roped into her web for far longer than anyone should be there.

Can't See Sheep said...

Reworked child custody law about to take effect in PA.


Sorry if this has already been posted
http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/news/state/pennsylvania/20110109_ap_reworkedchildcustodylawabouttotakeeffect.html

Paps are not scum Kate said...

See, we wives of paps, we know what goes on. We keep quiet. When we post or one of us posts, it is truth, it is what is happening. We hit this site before TMZ published anything about Kate's attys going after Jon again. But it is the way things go.

Mani/pedi/spray tan/hair done then filming. Only this time the bitch went too far. She took those kids around the world over the holidays. It broke their father's heart. Not just their father's heart but the kid's hearts, especially the Twins. Those kids did not want to go anywhere.

If I say to you that we heard the twins are beyond loving their mother. Yes, it is true. Some of the photos were sent by one of them to the US, that is the big smiles from Kate. But Kate knows this know. Only Jon did not offer the photos or publish, he kept them. Steve and Kate sell them. We know that. Every penny, every penny is spent on Kate, given to a anonymous person and it is paid to Kate in all different ways, she gets her share and so does Steve. It is all above board.

So the lawsuit about Jon means that following the above, the filming almost completed filming, then Kate gets back to the US and everyone wants to interview her as she says Jon is causing problems for the kids with arguing.

She will say that she has moved on, once again, the kids love her, they are happy with her, they do not like the father's apt. On and on and on and that what Jon does destroys the little ones' lives and that yada, yada, yada.

She is a worm, those are not my words, but what I hear. So I have mixed this up so as not to be the one who writes on here.

Enemies have been made in order to pile up the money, but there are people with money willing to back Jon this time.

K8STFU said...

RE: the TMZ thingy.

Yep, ONLY KATE can exploit her kids.

She said so herself : "nobody makes money off my kids except me!"

What About Her? said...

This custody thing does not make any sense. She is the one who took them out of the country to work when it was Jon's custody time. I think the judge's rulings in her favor so far have made her a little too confident that she can get by with anything. Poor Jon - he has the worst ex-wife ever. I think if he was making money off the kids he would have aleady gotten a bigger apartment. Hopefully his financial records will show as opposed to her's who is really exploiting the kids.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Remember back when they first announced their divorce, and the both of them claimed, "We will always come together for our kids"?

Yeah, sure.

This is going to be one of those couples who'd rather forever hold onto their anger and let it play out as revenge against the other than move forward toward finding inner peace.

They are a classic example of How NOT To Do Marriage, How NOT To Do Parenting, How NOT To Do Divorce.

I wish the both of them would just please go permanently away. I'm sick of them and their never-ending melodrama.

she is evil said...

Some thoughts on the Princess of Darkness' latest move:

1. The fact that she wants to change the custody agreement in order to 'protect' the kids from their dad: she may be nervous that he's actually gaining leverage and is desperately trying to wrangle all control away from him. She wants to continue to film and exploit them as much as possible. Wants to stay relevant and needs those neglected kids to accomplish that. Also, what a reptile to further break her kids' hearts by limiting their time with the dad they so love and need.
2. Jon should countersue for all of Kate's bashing of him...it's all on record. "The kids are dealing with the loss of a parent", "The kids have rage issues because of the divorce", "I wait by the phone..,", "They don't like dads apt", "Spending time with their dad is new to them", "I welcome Jon spending time with the kids...if he wants to" (implying that he doesn't), "I am the SOLE PROVIDER for the kids", "I provide the home, the things that the kids want and need", "I am a single mother" (no, you're a divorced bitch).
3. Would love Jon to expose Kate for the oportunistic, pap-calling hypocrite that she is
4. Would love a child advocate (teacher, therapist) or someone with knowledge of what the situation is like for the kids (nanny, film crew, former employees) testify to enlighten the judge as to what kind of parents both Jon and Kate are.
5. Kate must be an unscrupulous attorney's dream: petty, vindictive, greedy, and with money to waste on legal counsel. I know nothing about Kate's lawyer; he may be wonderful. But if he is looking for a client to milk for money...enter Kate.

I've given up hoping that the right thing will happen. Somehow Kate keeps winning in court, despite the fact that she is as unfit as they come and the fact that Jon is, and always has been, the best parent of the two. The injustice makes my head spin. Oh, please, God/karma, help those children.

Tami said...

And yet again I ask..WHY is it ok for her to go on tv interviews and talk about the kids and talk about how they feel about their dad, what has happened to them in school, how the divorce has affected them, how they feel about filming, etc, etc, and then if Jon tweets "I had fun over Christmas with the kids" or "I did not want them to go to Australia", he is in contempt of court? Unbelievable! If this wins her points again in courts, it is time to evaluate whether the judge is fit for duty. Is he a drunk? Senile? What? It's just bizarre.

Pattypanda said...

TMZ story is a laugh. What's their source. Jon has said almost nothing via twitter. She's been the one bashing Jon on Regis and Kelly, telling private stories about kids school problems on Today, then taking kids out of school to work in an effort to support her. She's a piece of crap, abuser. Mady and Cara will soon be spilling all her secrets, they are not stupid little girls.Jon will not have to bate his kids for info, her dirty little secrets of abuse, and Steve will flow from the innocent mouths of babes. Jon has been smart finally saying nothing derogatory. Kate is the one looking bad, taking troubled kids out of school, taking them away during the holiday when they could have had extra time with their father and some sort of stable life. No pictures of happy children in months when they are in her presence. TLC is backing Kate for now, if not TLC paying off judges to keep the kids marketable while they have any worth. Soon they will be obsolete and she will gladly hand them over to Jon to deal with their teen years. She will have no place in their lives soon enough.

Just My Few Canadian Cents said...

I'm surprised TMZ is breaking a story about Kate before Radar. I wonder what is up with that.

Maggie said...

Kate Gosselin's attorney is Cheryl L. Young. Guess what she is in charge of? She chairs the state's bar association's family law section. I read the below article and that name screamed at me. Sure enough I googled her name and Kate's name and she is/was Kate's attorney.

http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/news/state/pennsylvania/20110109_ap_reworkedchildcustodylawabouttotakeeffect.html


This article is new and summarizes what the PA new custody laws would highlight.

What is your opinion about Ms. Young's background and position and how it filters into her being Kate's personal custody lawyer?

NoUse4Kate said...

To Paps Are Not Scum. I realize that paps are just doing their job by taking shots of people. I also realize that when people put themselves out into the public eye that they have to expect paps to be there snapping pictures and not whine about it. I think true stars understand that it is really all part of the job. Some paps do cross the line, I think we can all agree to that.

Saying all of that with way too many "I's" in one paragraph, why haven't real paps exposed this fraud long ago? Chris is not a real pap, he is some lacky for TLC, he'll never get the big money shot because he's too busy kissing TLC & katan's a**. She is a gold mine for some pap and/or journalist who is willing to dig a little and expose TLC, the production company that tapes the show and k8. Put an end to this charade. Perhaps this is what you are hinting at? It's just frustrating watching a slow motion train wreck, seeing innocent children damaged by this soul-less person they call "mom." It's disgusting.

HW said...

PAPS ARE NOT SCUM KATE,

Your information is very interesting and enlightening. Is there any chance this information can be shared with the court? For instance, could a pap contact Jon and tell him he/she would testify on his behalf and let the judge know that Kate and Steve are sending pictures back? Is there anyway this information can be helpful to Jon in the legal setting? It seems this might be the first ray of hope for Jon - if paps can verify that Kate is exploiting the kids while she claims Jon is doing so.

Shoka's Understudy said...

I came across kates petition against Jon and came to Gwops and read the Pap's wifes post and then it makes all sense.

We all know that kate is very bad at a big announcement when it looks like something bad against her is coming out. This is the dog and pony show putting up the smoke and mirrors to hide the fact that possibly she is pulling up stakes and moving to NY, and that Gina and kids are at home. That would make her look very bad, a homewrecker.

She is supposedly allowing people to show the house to potential buyers. I hope whoever buys it will scream and holler about how nasty the refrigerator was when can do kate left it. Make a video, put it on youtube and it will go viral.

CakeIsGreat said...

Judge Judy (one of my favorite people in the world) always says "It's not Slander if its true", well, Kate has been caught saying untrue things about Jon many times. Why can't he bring up her slander in court? That R&K appearance, followed by her trip to Mexico is really all he needs. How does that not damage the kids? Taking it further, if she's saying he's selling information (which she better have proof of since it is court, not a tabloid show), why can't he argue she's making money off damaging his name in every interview she's ever given which says something negative about him or talks about the hardships of raising kids "alone", as if he provides no support, which he does? Perhaps he was trying to be mature for the sake of the children and letting that all slide, but if she is going to do this to him, it would make zero sense for him to not attempt to defend himself in this matter and bring up the many times she's been at fault.

Adjusting the custody??? Why bother? All she needs to do apparently is say she needs them to work and that seems to be good enough to take them away from their dad on his time. Oh wait, going to court takes time away from going to NY and LA by herself. Time for Jon to fight back, fire with fire. I say he asks for more custody time under the grounds the kids seem to be melting down (ie getting kicked out of school) on her watch. It is not his bright idea to schlep them to the land down under mid school year for profit. If I were him I'd seriously look into who exactly is tutoring Collin and Alexis. A 20yr old babysitter should NOT be good enough and should speak volumes to her judgement!

As to K&J and "what if it were reversed" re: the 'love taps'. That is still a sad double standard as far as men and women are concerned, and this is coming from a women. I know several people who won't watch All In The Family reruns b/c they find it offensive Archie calls Edith "dingbat" and say they'd never let their husband/boyfriend talk to them like that, ect. But love Everybody Loves Ray and thinks its so funny that Deborah calls Ray idiot and whatnot. Really. I have a feeling if a poll was done, a sad number of people would agree. The only difference I see is that at least people are suppose to be laughing at Archie, but with Deborah. I bet if Kate were the one bringing Jon coffee in bed every morning (say if she ever got up for an early feeding...) there would've been out cries of "chauvinist", "doesn't he know she has a busy day ahead?" and "who does he think he think he is?" But of course it was fine because it was Kate and she "deserved it".

Jon never caught a break since the beginning.

so sick of her said...

Skoka understudy: I think you have something there. What happen to the report that Kate filed to the courts, that Jon own back child support? what happen to that? Kate got something from Jon and backed off. Maybe the Aussie trip? So now if she is tryin to move, Jon would opposed the move, so Kate has to do or say something to distract everyone, and slip out of the state. This trip will probably be the one we will see ASAP she gets back. makes sense.

She is a mix tween bull/cow said...

My language could be bad here, but I will try to be a Lady. Kate is worse than scum, she will not stop destroying Jon until she kills him. He will be homeless, positively homeless. He will have to appear in court, lose work, lose his job. Everything he manages to do for himself without the TV thing that she adores and lives for makes her angrier than a hungry Lion. No kidding, she hates Jon. If Jon had not walked out, they would have 20 or 30 million dollars and be able to buy a Summer Home, a winter Home and all the rest. Clothes line, cooking books, budget books, coupon books, clothes line for her, even make a CD singing with the kids like The Sound of Music. No kidding, Jon screwed it up, big time. She only made a paltry 3. 7 million which is nothing, it could be gone in a year with the upkeep on that house and those kids. She has to keep working those kids to make money to keep that house, land, cars, fly first class, rent the Limo, pay Steve. Oh yeah, she has to feed the kids.

The woman does not like the kids who look like Jon. I'll bet those kids are not allowed to mention the word Daddy. No way, she would slam them against the wall.

Why is it Jon has to publicly face to face apologize to Kate? He went along with her gimick for a few years. He bought his share of toys. then all hell broke loose cause he saw how hard their life was with the filming and the children out of control. He just wanted out of it all. If she had encouraged him to go back to his job, he would have not been filmed and they would still be together. No. It was her way or destruction and he helped that for a while too. Yet, now, it is so over for both of them.

Cause I can't see this Judge continuing to rule in her favor.

True he should not tweet anything, not a thing, just so she would not be able to get publicity. Keep her from getting any publicity.

People are so tired of her. So very tired. The few fans she has or who hang on because they are making something or gaining something mentally from it are going down the drain also.

By the end of this year, she will not even be mentioned other than how messed up her kids are.

Is Gina in Md or is she in NZ? We will find out.

Meanwhile Kate drags her kids around the world, people are suffering great tragedy, like the floods in Aussie. Yet, Kate doesn't think anything can happen to her kids.

Maybe some of them like traveling as no school. They really have no foundation for school. Yet, the twins, they are upset, have to be. They do have a life away from the tups and from Kate. Their lives are important to them along with their Dad.

Come on Judge, let's see you rule on this one. Cause then we want to know who this Judge is.

Can't See Sheep said...

Pattypanda said...
Mady and Cara will soon be spilling all her secrets, they are not stupid little girls.

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Won't that be a nice roll reversal. k8's spent all these years exposing the kid's most private moments for the world to see & it will soon be turned on her. Hope Jon has a room ready for them because there will be hell to pay for anyone exposing k8. Although her reaction could very well cost her custody. When this happens I hope those girls have all kinds of proof because k8 will lie & try to discredit them, making out as though they're the ones telling tales. They'll get an upfront & terrible look at how easily their so called mom is willing to turn on them.

It's a shame they have to deal with a narcissist & it's a shame it'll be ongoing until they're old enough to leave. It's a shame what happened to the Dionne Quints is happening all over again to another group of children on a 21st century scale. It would be nice if this was the last group of children this had to happen to. I truly hope that the States introduce something at the federal level that keeps children in the future from this terrible life. Going by individual state is not enough, it's a start, but this should never be aloud to happen again.

Bubbles said...

I just read the article about the PA custody law changes...holy cow...it's not already a law there that a parent with residential custody has to have permission to move to another state from the other parent?? When I read about the rumor of Kate moving to NY I assumed it would be a no-go because Jon would have to approve.

Ugh...I'm betting this is another of those "rumors" that will turn out to be true in the end.

dustilies said...

Maggie--great sleuthing about Kate's attorney and her role in the PA Bar Association.

I have a dumb question: once the law goes into effect, does it apply to petitions for changes in existing custody arrangements? Or is it only for new divorces, etc.?

It seems that the new guidelines would help Jon be heard, if he was allowed to petition under them.

dustilies said...

Shoka's understudy wrote . . .

She is supposedly allowing people to show the house to potential buyers. I hope whoever buys it will scream and holler about how nasty the refrigerator was when can do kate left it.

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I can always count on y'all to crack me up.

Whoever lives in that house after KG clears out is going to need a cleansing ceremony involving a shaman, a priest, a rabbi, an imam, and two dozen chanting Buddhist monks. Of course that spiritual work comes after the professional cleaning crew is done with the physical mess--remember how she left the Etown house?

That said, I'm skeptical about the rumors of a move to upstate NY. We've heard several rumors of the type--NC, CA, MD--and they've not been accurate.

I agree with Buckeye--this melodrama is just plain tedious.

Ampersmom said...

My thoughts on the latest Kate court claims...she is mad that it got out the judge said the kids (filming) are working. Kate has always denied the kids work, they were only being filmed playing....yet, now there is a court record stating the kids work. She did not want this out and is going to find a way to punish Jon for doing so.

Like many others on this board I do not see how Kate can go on tv shows and bad mouth Jon. Wouldn't a "gag" order work both ways? How much of Jon's soul did he sell out to her?

emptynester said...

K8. Fan. No more. said...

"....Let us see you struggle Kate!! Let us see you tutoring and helping your kids with their homework, Carting them to soccer, or karate, or birthday parties for school mates, working things out to co-parent with Jon. Work on being a better MOM AND PERSON.... Now THAT I'd like to see. Not you sunbathing in Australia!!!!!"

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I have a better idea - let's NOT see Kate doing anything. Not on tv, not in magazines, not giving interviews, NOTHING, NADA, ZIP. That would be her worst punishment.

Duck said...

Ran across this article in the Reading Eagle-talks about all the renovations done on the orginial house and the homecoming of the 6 babies. Thought it interesting.
http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=140499

wife of a pap people said...

Thx Maggie, now TMZ has the whole article and all the data.

See, we do mean business with terrible, lying, stealing, inhuman people who think they are above us.

the use people, constantly, belittle people and now she is ruining the lives of her children.

Something has got to give...Let the Huffingtonpost get their copy too.

DUCK said...

My eyes!!!!!! They hurt!!!!Look at this on ROL

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/01/photos-bikini-bachelorettes-hollywoods-sexiest-singles-strip-down

They say sexiest singles and show Kate in a binkini (of course) and lump her with Eva L, Kim K, Jennifer A. call her body hot and says her sizzling fiqure is reward for doing diaper duty.

I can not even form words. I really hope the diaper duty just refers to parental duties and the kids are still not in pull-ups (like the bibs and highchairs we saw in the fall). I will say that Kate does not look bad (yes, someone paid for it) for a woman of her age with that many kids-bikini body though-no. There are alot of other single woman (famous and others) that are much more attractive. I really have to stop surfing the web-I always warn my kids they may see something that is not appropriate for them. I guess it goes for me too!!!!!!!

She is a mix tween bull/cow said...

This Custody Law and the further changes to this law will always affect the Gosselin children until they reach the age of 18.

It does not affect new divorces or old divorces.......it is Custody, different from divorce. So yes, the gosselin children will always be affected by the laws, the changes by their mother's atty. It is a mess custody.Ongoing until a child is 18.

she is a worthless mother said...

I so believe that TLC and ROL have some contact and that is why Kate is so honored as having a good body. Who cares?

If Jennifer Anniston didn't have acting ability, would she have multiples so that she could get a job? No way, she has talent and so does Eva L. Kate? Kate is and always will be that big belly that held those 6 kids and it makes her angry to have people show on on TV.

When she did DWTS that is when she thought she had it made, had it made. was going to rake in the money with all kinds of her Brand....and guess what, those clips of her berrating her instructor...it was all over for her.

She really did need Jon, oh yes she did. Jon made her look good, look like she was wonderful. Now? She is a joke. ROL can put her photos on. Who is ROL? Really, low lives like Charlie Sheen are on it. Jesse James.

Lookin' Good...Or Not! said...

She really did need Jon, oh yes she did. Jon made her look good, look like she was wonderful.

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Kate never looked wonderful. I'm thinking of that pre-Disney hair salon episode in which he stood his ground and put her in her place by refusing to go home and take care of the kids because he had to pick up the trailer; I'm thinking of the Toys R Us, friggin' dog episode...she certainly didn't look good there; loved the "take the stick out of your butt" comment -- he didn't mince words and make her look good; her ranting over the coupon (she looked like an out-of-control control-freak).

Nope -- he didn't make her look good. Many of these episodes exposed her for what she really is.

Guardian Ad Litem...Where Art Thou? said...

Oh, you know that kate is fuming about it getting out that kate took the kids on the trip for work.

I am beginning to believe that it is finally going to hit the fan with kate and all of her shananigans. The verbal, mental and physical abuse of the kids.

kate screaming, cursing, threatening, harrassing, hitting, smacking, hurting, alienating the kids from immediate family members, not taking kids to the ER or DR. when they should of been taken, ignoring, pulling up the babies from the crib with one hand and pulling them up to her, demeaning Jon, hitting Jon, cheating on Jon, harrassing Jon, forcing Jon to deimpact Colin out in the back of the van, forcing Jon to stop the pumpkin carving when they were having such a good time!

I wonder if a producer told kate that the pumpking carving scene was running to long and that they wanted to set up another scene and kate went ballistic. She was probably afraid that she wouldn't get whatever they were making per episode, I guess she was afraid they would get a dock in pay.

Shoka's Understudy

zoey said...

So, Kate can go after Jon for a tweet... but he cant have a counter suit against for her the same crime? she goes all over EVERY show that will have her and blabs.

eastsider said...

I cannot believe that with the horrible flooding going on down in Australia TLC is not having the Gosselins helping out in some way. Instead they are enjoying a free working vacation when the people of Australia are suffering. It is appauling.

Hippie Chick said...

Someone on another blog said this & I think it suits Kate perfectly:

Kate hates Jon more than she loves her kids.

Kate is so obsessed with Jon. She is pissed that Jon has moved on, has gotten himself a life, a girlfriend, etc. Kate cannot cope with that IMO. She can't get a man, & she is jealous. She is undesirable. I think she is jealous of Jon because he has a great relationship with his kids, they are genuinely happy when they are with him. Kate hates that. She is just a miserable person who wants everyone miserable around her. I hope beyond hope that Jon wins & Kate loses all credibility. People are onto her. Nobody likes her. They know she is doing this to stay relevant & that's it. I hope she crashes & burns.

Kia Ora said...

Maybe these guys were the mystery photogs in Australia? I beleive this photo below of Ali Daher is a freelance photog in Australia who sells his photos to Titomedia? In the photo that was seen with her and a tall guy, in this same area, is maybe also a photog? On youtube for hasselhoff on Bondi Beach, I'm pretty sure I see that tall guy in the background of one of the scenes.http://www.hollywoodtreatment.net/blog/kate-gosselin-gets-the-hollywood-treatment/

5 said...

Can't See Sheep said...
It's a shame what happened to the Dionne Quints is happening all over again to another group of children on a 21st century scale
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The Dionnes specifically cautioned about using multiples for entertainment and selling of products.

In their book, Family Secrets, they spoke of how they knew from an early age their life was not normal, how they had to make believe for the cameras,how sheltered and isolated they were and were unable to cope with the real world as adults and how they knew their father was the one ensuring they were always hounded by press. Their parents hated each other and the sisters often blamed themselves for the unhappy marriage.

Sounds familiar??????

The Dionnes were raised decades ago and religion was a huge part of their life. They coped by praying and speaking to priests.
How will the Gosselins cope when they grow up? Two children at age 6already have behavioral issues and were expelled from school.

Kate claims they are happy, normal kids who are just playing in front the camera.

She was always like this said...

From the Reading Eagle article cited above:

The mother said she was pleased with the makeover because it mostly suited her style.

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That's Kate talking about the original renovation, when the babies first came home.

"it mostly suited her style"

She was exactly as she is now, then. She couldn't be grateful, she couldn't thank those who had given her so much gracefully. She had to mention that the massive renovations "mostly" suited her style.

Meaning, of course, that some did NOT, and that she'd be leaving the unacceptable house behind in the dust as soon as possible, which is exactly what she did.

What a piece of work.

Mom In Lancaster County said...

I wonder how long it will be when they get back, that they will be taken out of school and taken on another trip.

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Spring Break. Watch for more filming. First week in March, for eleven days.

sueshe said...

Why oh why would TLC spend the money to send Khate and her kids to the down under. That trip has got to cost thousands. Can't TLC find something better to do with that money.
I hope that the audience keeps dwindling down under...And that TLC has to eat up a series that should of been shelved a long time ago.

Still Beating Up on Jon said...

Khate in Beth's book, MB, said something to the effect that everyone was blathering over the babies and she was like "look at me, can't you see I am bleeding over here." That is Khate in a nutshell. I am sure that she must have had what is now referred to as postpartum depression and that is why it took a bit for the alpha male part of her to come out. She is so mean-spirited and I cannot believe that I was ever a fan of the show, but I was because those babies had a way of getting into your heart - too bad their own mother cannot see it.

anotherchesterctymom said...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1346154/Kate-Gosselin-takes-brood-New-Zealand-school-term-starts.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

"Shouldn't your children be in school? Kate Gosselin takes her brood to New Zealand as term starts"

LOL

so sick of her said...

Well, more of the same. The pics from NZ are the same, No smile from Kate, Kate on phone and wearing short skirt. Kids looking dis-interested, bored, and hot, forced, and looking like they want to go home , than go to yet another tourist attraction. The one tab-rag said that school started this week and why aren't they in school. I guess this rag, does not know that school was back in session on: Jan 3rd or 4th, this is the 11th. Yeah, according to the sheeples the kids are smiling in all the pics(NOT), the only pics of kids smiling was the 2 where Kate was not in the pics and the kids were petting a lizard. Kate was even holding, and pulling one of the twins and in another pic one of the tups was making a face, while holding Kates hand. Poor kids!

dustilies said...

She was always like this said...

From the Reading Eagle article cited above:

The mother said she was pleased with the makeover because it mostly suited her style.

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I noticed that backhanded compliment, too. The minister of her church, who spearheaded the effort, said he wanted Jon and Kate to "know how much the are loved." And this is the thanks they get? For a new master suite, an additional bathroom, furniture, interior painting, and more.

I thought grifters and conmen were excellent readers of social situations and the "right" way to act to fool people. KG is so stunted in her social skills it seems unbelievable that people are so kind to her. I guess the script she has written for herself with HOMS is "see how exhausted I am. I am so exhausted that you all will make excuses for my bad behavior and keep trying to help me and cheer me up."

TUNDRA said...

Happy New Year Everyone!

While I agree allowing Kate to remove her children from their schooling to travel to Australia and New Zealand on a working vacation is despictable it must be noted that TLC doesn't answer to Kate Gosselin - she is contractually obligated - they (TLC) answers to the show's sponsors and advertisers. Ratings that continue to drop week-after-week doesn't bode well with advertisers who surely have agreements with TLC for product placement and advertising spots costing them big bucks. Kate Plus 8 is advertiser-supported cable programming. The persons paying for this are the persons who want you to buy their products and pay big bucks to advertise them to you vis a vis Kate Plus 8.

I know it may sound trite but keep writing the sponsors and advertisers. Tell them how you feel. Tell your friends to read this blog and invite their friends and family to do so, as well. Most important, think twice about watching a show that appears to be paid for by advertisers who inadvertently or by intent plainly put Kate's needs above the needs of her minor age children.

Sassypaws said...

I followed the link that Duck published to the Reading Eagle article about all the renovations done on the original house and the homecoming of the 6 babies.

It's odd, but we never heard again about Ken J. Shrom Jr., the family friend who organized the house renovations project for the church or Kate’s lifelong friend, Marsha K. Kelley of Palmyra, who was quoted in the article. I guess they outlived their usefulness.

Shoka's Understudy said...

I just went to TMZ and posted a question for Harvey. They do a live web cam Q and A session live on TMZ's website.

It will be at 330 pm CT, in about 10 minutes.

Hopefully, he will read my question.

Here it is:

Have you heard anything about kate gosselin while in AU and NZ, relator's showing her mansion to potential buyers and her secret plans to pull up stakes and move to NYState with the kids? I wish you would expose kate and Steve the bodyguards photo taking scam. Steve takes the pictures and gives them to someone who sells them to tabloids and they all get a cut of the money.
Thanks, Harvey

Leigh Ann said...

I thought grifters and conmen were excellent readers of social situations and the "right" way to act to fool people. KG is so stunted in her social skills it seems unbelievable that people are so kind to her.
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I think she has beginner's luck. But she just get relatively small things out of people. I real con-man will end up with all your money and possibly your house and you won't even realize what's going on until you're in the homeless shelter. And by that time, they're in another town doing it to someone else.

Steve is the pap said...

Kia Ora said...
Maybe these guys were the mystery photogs in Australia? I beleive this photo below of Ali Daher is a freelance photog in Australia who sells his photos to Titomedia?

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The photos everyone is talking about Steve and Kate taking weren't sold to that outlet.

Monamami said...

I thought grifters and conmen were excellent readers of social situations and the "right" way to act to fool people. KG is so stunted in her social skills it seems unbelievable that people are so kind to her. I guess the script she has written for herself with HOMS is "see how exhausted I am. I am so exhausted that you all will make excuses for my bad behavior and keep trying to help me and cheer me up."

You put your finger on it exactly. Somehow she managed to make everyone feel like it was their job to make her feel better.

Khant Stand Khate said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebqxFJxUvpw


She talked to Aiden like he was a dog. Sit. Stay.

wow!

Kia Ora said...

Thanks anotherchesterctymom for photos. Yes, everyone looks like they are sick & tired of the same old, same old. They look like they just want to be in their only little beds. Probably dreading the trip back.

so sick of her said...

Oh, Dustilies, you forgot a couple of things: And people should still give her freebees, things that match for the kids, and do as your told, when asked to delete a pic, or not talk to me or the media about me and don't for get the stores I go into, to close your doors while I'm there, so you can lose business and take care of me and my kids, and give a discount, and have your staff wait on me hand & foot and put up with my unruly children and my rude behavior. Also, the series of new pics, one of the twins, looks mad, has her arms crossed and another pic has Kate pulling that child, by the hand and Kate looking not happy. Is this the same twin at the Irwin show sitting by herself and the same kid at the pool? Trouble in paradise?

The Self-Crowned Queen's Temper Tantrums said...

dustilies said...
She was always like this said...

From the Reading Eagle article cited above:

The mother said she was pleased with the makeover because it mostly suited her style.

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I noticed that backhanded compliment, too. The minister of her church, who spearheaded the effort, said he wanted Jon and Kate to "know how much the are loved." And this is the thanks they get? For a new master suite, an additional bathroom, furniture, interior painting, and more.

I thought grifters and conmen were excellent readers of social situations and the "right" way to act to fool people. KG is so stunted in her social skills it seems unbelievable that people are so kind to her. I guess the script she has written for herself with HOMS is "see how exhausted I am. I am so exhausted that you all will make excuses for my bad behavior and keep trying to help me and cheer me up."

I think the newspaper was trying to handle it kindly by using that quote. I am pretty sure in her book MB, Kate says that she had some sort of crying fit or breakdown during the reveal and threw everyone out of her house. I believe this may of caused a rift with Jon's mother. Does anyone else remember this?

fidosmommy said...

That's Kate talking about the original renovation, when the babies first came home.

"it mostly suited her style"

She was exactly as she is now, then. She couldn't be grateful, she couldn't thank those who had given her so much gracefully. She had to mention that the massive renovations "mostly" suited her style.

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My understanding was that the church folks had the idea, started the project, and then a TV network
(NBC???) stepped in to do the finishing touches and take the credit.

The "artist" who chose paint colors and fabrics, decorated the walls, the sink and other places
wins no awards in my book. I thought the place looked hideous.

The Church folks should have been thanked for their loving hearts, and the TV network needed to not assume Kate had their "artist's" taste. It was, IMO, way over the top ugly. To me, it looked like something out of Trading Spaces when they started getting outrageous.

Not everyone has Martha Stewart's taste or Nate Berkus' taste or Yip's taste in decorating, and I get riled when we're all supposed to just smile and say it's lovely when it just plain isn't.

Brummygirl said...

sueshe said...
Why oh why would TLC spend the money to send Khate and her kids to the down under. That trip has got to cost thousands. Can't TLC find something better to do with that money.
I hope that the audience keeps dwindling down under...And that TLC has to eat up a series that should of been shelved a long time ago.
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That's because (it was mentioned in the press) they have plans to show Kate +8 in Australia some time this year and this is T.L.C.'s way of gaining interest. What a pity they cannot show Jon and Kate +8, then the Australian viewers would know what a hellcat diva she is.

Kia Ora said...

In reply to steve is the pap-there was a question mark after what I said. If you have better information, show me your diligence. Did I hit a "spot on"?

neighbor said...

Kia, how can any of us really know who the photogs were and who those guys posing with the Dame of Wernersville are?

We speculate, but sometime we are spot on.

A viewer from Australia said...

Brummygirl said...
"What a pity they cannot show Jon and Kate +8, then the Australian viewers would know what a hellcat diva she i

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Im from Australia and the do show Jon & Kate Plus 8 already here on our Discovery Home & Health Channel... Dont worry... we can all see what she is like... and trust me everyone i speak to is of the same opinion... get her off TV and save those poor children... I use to cringe at the treatement of jon... i have had to stop watching... although i have caught the odd new ep... (we are only now just seeing the start of the last season) but even so... poor poor jon, and poor poor kids...

Kia Ora said...

Viewer from Australia. Thank God for small mercies!

fidosmommy said...

Here are some pictures of the renovation of the original Gosselin house as decorated by NBC's Home Delivery TV show.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I guess. I think most of it is horrid.

http://www.fauxinteriors.com/nbc.php

Brummygirl said...

Here are some pictures of the renovation of the original Gosselin house as decorated by NBC's Home Delivery TV show.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I guess. I think most of it is horrid.

http://www.fauxinteriors.com/nbc.php
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Well I was going to slate Kate for being ungrateful with you shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth...but, I must admit that is pretty eclectic.
I had never seen this before. I think the nursery was cute minus the drapes but the rest of it reminded me of a house we looked at once and everything was painted just like the sink in one of those bathrooms..the whole house!!
Kate still should have given thanks and kept her opinion to herself and gently changed a few things over time, she certainly had the money to do that, although she pleaded poverty. It was given in good spirit and maybe the t.v. people should not have stepped in.

K8STFU said...

I had seen the pics from the home remodel a while ago ( here on GWOP of course!)

I have to say, this may be the ONE time I give K8 a teeeeeny bit of leeway.

I think she handled the situation wrong, of course, but I don't blame her for being a bit upset . The new decor was odd to say the least.

Like Brummy said, she should have just kept her mouth shut and changed things a little at a time.

The kicker was that IIRC, her DAD was the one who spearheaded this project - from what I have read, K8's ungrateful attitude was the beginning of the demise of her relationship with him.

They Just Don't Get It said...

They sent the Roloffs to the Virgin Islands and poor Matt had to be carried and he was so sick and tired he ended up staying in the room alone most of the time. They also sent them to Europe. The let the twins tromp all over Europe lost with huge heavy packs on their back. I felt sorry for Zack. I quit watching them after that. They sent the baker guy to Italy - whole large family. I quit watching the bakery show after they decided to turn into a comedy. I am not sure that his dad wanted that to be a part of the legacy he left for a 100 year old bakery. Those trips in their eyes turn a regular show into a special and it garners more ratings - well maybe not in Khate's case. TLC can't seem to understand that it was watching every day people go through every day things that people like to watch. My favorite episode of the bakery show was watching the guy labor painstakingly over the lacing on the cakes for the Bridal Magazine.

Leigh Ann said...

It was given in good spirit and maybe the t.v. people should not have stepped in.
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Oh, those bathroom sinks look terrible. Those TV decorators I think forget people have to live in the home. I remember watching Trading Spaces when a wall was covered in hay and another room was covered in cardboard that was glued to the Sheetrock with Liquid Nails. Frank always made a point of doing things that could be easily undone by the homeowner. I wonder how those sinks were decorated? The church probably should have just stuck with painting the walls. I can see where Kate might have been in shock and didn't know exactly what to think. Reminds of The Muppet Show when Electric Mayhem splashed paint all over the van. Fozzie said "I don't know how to thank you" and Kermit said "I don't why to thank you." But like getting an ugly sweater for Christmas, you say thank you and then get rid of it. Although if you have to redo the decorators work you might as well have done it yourself in the first place.

mama san said...

Just viewed photos of renovation. good grief, did those decorators take into consideration that this was for young children. the bathroom was s o o overdone. Calming colors and less is better than more. One time, I agree with Kate. The church volunteers should have been allowed to finish. My question was why didn't Jon and Kate have some input???

Gaby said...

Looks like Khate got matching cribs after all.

K8. Fan. No more. said...

I wonder if being in the home makeover show is what made Kate realize she could be and wanted to be on TV. They should never have taken over. They should have just let the church finish what they started. How rude of them to just take over and turn it into an over the top extravaganza. Seems the church and volunteers were handling just fine.

so sick of her said...

Well, saw some of the new pics, same old same old. They went horseback riding(geez, you live in PA farm area, they have horse back riding) I counted 4 pics of Kate bitchin/complaining about something, 1 pic of the 2 of the tups smiling, 1 pic of Kate by herself on horse smiling and a group shot a most smiling. The rest of the pics not smiling or looking happy, the kids look tired, bored and probably want to go home. Getting tired of repeating myself. They are doing stuff you can do at home. Also, the comments are mostly with maybe 2 NEGATIVE!They are saying they should be at home in school, and what they are doing there can be done right here in the US. Kate is proving nothing. I don't think the rating will be high this time. Oh, yeah, someone leaked to the paps there that Kate was going horse back riding, geez, Jon has BIG EARS! I guess Steve hired some paps or her royal higha** will have a hissy-fit. Was that court thing recent or was that from a while ago, it seems the media picks old stuff up or Kates camp plants stuff, to keep her in the news, even if it's old or bad.

silimom said...

sueshe said...Why oh why would TLC spend the money to send Khate and her kids to the down under. That trip has got to cost thousands. Can't TLC find something better to do with that money.
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There is speculation that the Irwins are looking to get into the reality tv gig. My guess is that they are in talks with Discovery/TLC and Discovery/TLC is using Kate's show to test the waters a bit, so to speak.

Leigh Ann said...

My question was why didn't Jon and Kate have some input???
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They probably wanted it to be a surprise. But you're right, the professionals weren't thinking about the family that had to live there. The twins room looked pretty nice but it was a grown-up room. They would have been about four and needed something a little more little girly.

so sick of her said...

I don't know why the Irwins are looking for a show, the Dad had a show and the girl has one called Bindi the jungle girl. I think that that was the only star or show out there that would have Kate on it. Since no talk show there or news show , did an interview with her. Probably cause nobody care about Kate or her kids there. Lucky People

Can't See Sheep said...

K8STFU said...
I have to say, this may be the ONE time I give K8 a teeeeeny bit of leeway.

I think she handled the situation wrong, of course, but I don't blame her for being a bit upset . The new decor was odd to say the least.

Like Brummy said, she should have just kept her mouth shut and changed things a little at a time.
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I couldn't agree more. It drives me nuts when someone imposes their style on someone else. They should have kept it all nice & neutral, but it's something a few coats of paint can't cure & we all know who'd be doing that job, oh Jon! The only exception is the sink, if that was done with enamel, wow, that'll be a job.

I agree, k8 should have just said thank you & then changed what she didn't like. The people in the church set out doing this with the best intentions, no one wanted to ruin her house. It's the TV group that hijacked it that I take issue with.

You don't have an artist paint someone's house unless that person actually likes their work & you don't do anything that can't be easily changed, otherwise you're potentially destroying property & altering the sale value of the house, which is major. Most people have to work very hard to get a house & keep a home & you as an artist should not be screwing that up unless the owner actually wants you to.

It brings to mind that episode of Trading Spaces where Hildy glue gunned all those silk flowers to the wall in a bathroom. Have fun reversing that. Given how staged houses seem to have to be these days how likely is it you'll get a buyer that will want something like that if you can't reverse it. I've seen people walk away from a house they wanted until they saw the colour of a room or some other easily corrected cosmetic nonsense, I can just imagine the reactions to hay or cardboard on a wall. Yes, I remember those episodes.

Too bad that show on TLC also had to get too outrageous, it did start out really well. TLC's shows all seem to end up like this. A good start & then by the last show you hardly recognize what you're watching & trying to think back to where the heck it all went south.

8unhappycampers said...

Sillimom said...

There is speculation that the Irwins are looking to get into the reality tv gig. My guess is that they are in talks with Discovery/TLC and Discovery/TLC is using Kate's show to test the waters a bit, so to speak.

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Well then the Irwins should just bend over a kiss it goodbye. Look what she did to Sarah Palin?

JMO, but TLC is thinking along these line..."hmmm how can we rile up the internet and create a buzz? Oh, let's send Kate and the kids on the same old lame zoo trip but make it some place cool, and being Steve's homeland all the better. That will fuel the romance speculation.Oh wait, not generating enough buzz? hmmm let's leak that Steve and Kate are the ones selling pics to the press. Still not enough! Oy, let's sue Jon" Yeah, interest held, she might still crack 1 mil viewers for the special Australian footage. But seriously, no one cares to see bored over privileged kids at another freaking zoo or beach.

dustilies said...

Fidosmommy, thanks for posting the link to the renovation pics.

I agree with everyone who has expressed shock and slight horror at what these "professional" decorators did. The work they did seems really sloppy and amateurish as well as tacky--those sinks! The curtains in the kids room! Surely a couple of nice church ladies could have done far better on the window treatments.

So, yes, like the ugly Christmas sweater, you need to smile and smile and smile. I do think it would have been hard for me!

Interesting that Kate's first brush with reality TV was so negative, yet she and Jon pursued their own show. From what we know about RTV, the NBC folks probably hyped up both the decorators and the Gosselins. KG was probably told over and over on the way to the reveal how beeyuuteeful it all was, so her disappointment was all the greater. Shouldn't she have realized that the TV producers have the control: they will tell the story they want, not the story the subjects (Jon and Kate) wish to tell.

(I fear that flowered sink is going to appear in one of my nightmares soon!)

henpecked said...

Oh No... The apocalypse is near!! Kate is wearing sensible shoes to go horseback riding! The stilettos are nowhere in sight!

kimmie said...

The sheeple can blame Jon for all the problems the kids are having but I did some reading on past articles in the Reading Eagle. There is an article on their web site about when Kate was crying to the state that she still needed a nurse after the tups turned one.

I found this interesting.
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The state’s medical consultant testified that Krall bathes and feeds the infants, changes diapers and cleans their surroundings.

A daily vitamin is the only medicine the infants take.

“I could find no medical need to have a skilled nurse in the house,” he said. “What the Gosselins need is someone to stay with mom and dad.”

While two of the sextuplets, Collin and Alexis, receive physical therapy through Easter Seals, the four other babies are progressing normally, the consultant said.
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Collin and Alexis have had problems since they were born.

Ampersmom said...

Doesn't it seem interesting that only a few pictures were "released" when they were in Australia (there was the pool, beach, airports and at the Irwin's zoo) But not a daily photo shoot as to what they are doing. Now they are in NZ and we get daily updates. Interesting. Why the sudden increase of pictures released. Could it be that Steve and Kate are in with that paps in NZ?
And like others, another trip to another zoo...another "traditional" dance scene..not only do the kids look bored in these pictures, the viewers will be bored with the same old same
old. Seeing their activities, I do not see many "educational" benefits to this trip.

readerlady said...

I can't believe Khate actually got up on a horse! Remember Hannah's day, when Jon and Khate took her riding and Khate was terrified of the horse? Interesting how Khate took a change of clothing for herself but never bothers to take any for her kids.

I looked at the pictures of the remodel. The bathroom is hideous and the twins' room was more appropriate for a bordello than for 4 year olds, but I thought the Living Room and the Master Bedroom were attractive. The nursery wasn't too bad. I wouldn't have gone with the huge murals, but anything else could have been corrected very easily.

Color It Tacky said...

I agree with everyone who has expressed shock and slight horror at what these "professional" decorators did. The work they did seems really sloppy and amateurish as well as tacky--those sinks! The curtains in the kids room! Surely a couple of nice church ladies could have done far better on the window treatments.

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LOL!! That's the first thing I noticed. I might be able to live with everything for awhile, and change it gradually. But those window treatments (especially the green ones) looked like they bought them at a garage sale...something I would have thrown out! I'm just astonished that the decorators considered themselves "professionals." The entire house looked like they pulled kids out of a home design class and this was their first homework assignment.

Anonymous said...

Is TLC trying to build up the speculation re: Kate and Steve?

All the pictures of Kate from the time they arrive in Australia until the time they arrive in New Zealand's airport, Kate is NOT sporting a ring. Flashforward to the tourist photos that follow and she is wearing a very sparkly ring on her right hand. Most of the shots of her now seem to position her in such a way that that hand and ring are pretty obvious.

Things that make you go HMMM in the dark.

By the way, some of the photos list a photo service as the provider of these shots. I had to laugh though because while most of them have keywords like "denim skirt", "white blouse", and the location, at least one of them had the keyword "arguing". :)

I'm talking about the EXIF data that is part of the data that is automatically added to the image file by the camera.

No leeway for Kate, no way said...

TMZ termed her a bitch. Hot in a bikini but a bitch.

I personally think the decorating of her home after giving birth to sextuplets was very kind of people. She would have accepted anything to get herself on TV and a podium for her to BEG. That is the beginning of her and Jon's Grifting. Never was she thankful for anything. Who cares about the bathroom sink, it worked and what should she have expected when she was begging.

She ended up with a McMansion and no butterflys on walls, etc. Most importantly she is the most entitled woman who has ever appeared on TV.

Now Palm Springs had a Movie Award Show, was she invited? No. The People's Award for favorite Reality Show,oh K8 wasn't nominated and the Kardashians won.

Sunday we have the Golden Globe Awards and I don't believe there was an invite to Kate.

Isn't it absolutely amazing that the only time "she mingled with the real talent" was as a "joke" on the pre emmy show. There was a gasp when she even appeared.

No great designer donated a dress for her to wear at the emmy show; no one wanted to be associated with her.

The people who could employ her or keep her on the air, other than TLC, wouldn't touch her with a 10 foot pole or the wooden dowel she used on her babies in Time Out.

She will now sue Jon and continue in her destruction of not just her former husband; but, continue to destroy her children's minds. Can they love Dad or can't they love Dad. How unfortunate that we have to see this occuring and she can bend over to touch a stone with her children, while her breasts are exposed.

Me? I think she will not make the 3.7 for much longer and she will be making audition tapes for pornography films, so she can say that she made the leap from TV to Film.

Hope Jon is bracing himself for what is in store for him, because she will make sure he can't afford to drive thru Taco Bell, let alone buy any food.

Barb said...

sueshe said...Why oh why would TLC spend the money to send Khate and her kids to the down under. That trip has got to cost thousands.

I'll bet that the Australian and New Zealand governments, through their tourist boards, are picking up a huge part of the tab. They've done this for other shows (The Bachelor, Oprah) on the theory that the money is really an investment which will bring a big return in the form of increased tourism to their countries.

Oh come on said...

Mama-san said

The church volunteers should have been allowed to finish. My question was why didn't Jon and Kate have some input???

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Because Jon and Kate abdicated all responsibility, turned the keys over and let others take responsibility for providing for them.

Sound familiar?

I don't care how horrible the result, if you accept gifts from others, especially ones of this magnitude, you keep your big yap shut if you don't like the results.

If Jon and Kate weren't able to work with the designers at the time, it would have been better to say "let's see what we'll need once we figure things out", as opposed to just letting others take over.

No way does anyone have any business failing to graciously express appreciation when a whole community of people have done their best to fulfill such a huge need. If J and K wanted control, they either could have worked with everyone involved, or (get ready for this) they could have just said "No, thanks".

Instead, they took it all, and Kate whined. Just exactly the way she rejected the original gift of six cribs, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T MATCH.

Give me a break. This woman is a total, blood-sucking taker, and whatever she's given, it will never be enough. And obviously has NEVER been enough.

Those poor kids said...

Barb said:

I'll bet that the Australian and New Zealand governments, through their tourist boards, are picking up a huge part of the tab. They've done this for other shows (The Bachelor, Oprah) on the theory that the money is really an investment which will bring a big return in the form of increased tourism to their countries.

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Right now, thoughts of New Zealand and Australia only bring to mind a bunch of miserable, tired kids and their extremely bored harridan of a mother.

That's probably not what the tourism boards had in mind, though.

Aunt Chris said...

No leeway... said
"The people who could employ her or keep her on the air, other than TLC, wouldn't touch her with a 10 foot pole or the wooden dowel she used on her babies in Time Out"

I wish someone would touch her with a ten foot pole - REAL HARD!!!!

Damage Control NZ Headquarters said...

Guess what?

kate calls Jon from Australia!

here is the link:

http://celebs.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978913183

The damage control/spin on this is horridly vertigo-ish!

Shoka's Understudy

Can't See Sheep said...

No leeway for Kate, no way said...
Who cares about the bathroom sink, it worked and what should she have expected when she was begging.
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Often in this world you do get what you pay for. Reminds me of that saying, beggars can't be choosers. k8 wanted to beg, but she also wanted to pick & choose, she wanted people to hand her what they couldn't afford for their own families.

Shoka's Understudy said...

In the article about kate calling Jon, it says that Jon was worried about the kids, and the author wrote before that it was freaky weather that hit for their visit.

What a moron.

Freaky weather is not the word for it. Dozens of people have died. Dozens and dozens of people are missing. Near Brisbane, where the Queen was just at is completely flooded the size of Texas.

I hope kate enjoys her last hee-haw adventure. I am praying that one of the biggest media outlets will find out the truth about the
horse's *** known as kate.

Jane in CA said...

Can't See Sheep said:
Too bad that show on TLC also had to get too outrageous, it did start out really well. TLC's shows all seem to end up like this. A good start & then by the last show you hardly recognize what you're watching & trying to think back to where the heck it all went south.
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I've noticed the same thing. I really loved Trading Spaces in the first few seasons, but then they just started getting way out there. Vern Yip always did beautiful work, and suddenly you saw him less and Hildy way more. Then they got rid of Paige and it went down the toilet.

I think the people who run networks are basically fools, or think the public are fools, and treat us accordingly. They take every good premise or show and then change it into something unrecognizable and trashy.

The show's producers just can't seem to come up with any good ideas for Kate Plus 8. It's completely unrealistic, as most families take one big vacation per year, if that. It's sad the kids can't have normal life, because every time they are on a break from school, they have to go off and work to support their greedy mother.

Maggie said...

Yes, the decorations are very awful but the goods news is they were very easily and very cheaply fixable. The 2 sinks were part of the vanities so new vanities from Home Depot (on sale) would have easliy fixed that problem. Then just rip down those curtains and flowers attached to the wall. Follow that with painting the 2 bedrooms & bathrooms that had the horrible "decorative" paint jobs.

I am sure the Gosselins had tons of all kinds of volunteers at their beck and call. I think that house could have been quitely re-painted --where needed- and the vanities easily replaced in one weekend. And probably without Jon or Kate putting out one dime or any effort on their part. And there are VOC paints on the market that put out zero fumes. The family could have stayed in the home the weekend the work was happening.

The great news is they recieved a new bedroom, bath, kitchen re-do, ect. And the decor of the main house, kitchen, and master bedroom was great.

Shame on the decorators, they were more interested in "showing off and highlighting" their designs then doing what was best for the family.

mabel said...

http://www.rotoruadailypost.co.nz/local/news/celebrities-staying-in-rotorua-but-who-are-they/3936801/

I love the comments.

ShowSomeRespect said...

Is it possible that she is -- or is fast becoming -- the most hated public persona in America? At the very least, she's got to be among the most reviled. I surprise myself with my level of outrage regarding Jon's "rights" or lack thereof, not to speak of the exploitation of the children. She can't really want to move them to another state? Who DOES this? (rhetorical). But if the judge gives Kate another favorable ruling, well, that will likely push me to be part of an organized public outcry. I know I sound melodromatic, I know, I know. And normally I just don't pay attention to who's-doing--what-in-the-name-of-fame. But there are times when things are just patently wrong and stink to high hell. [And, of course, many things are wrong and do stink.] But this can be managed because it isn't just about eight children. It's about children's rights and protections, spouses' rights, and mental health. People will have to come out of the woodwork and make statements. I have to believe that their consciences will ultimately dictate it. I mean, c'mon, not EVERY single person who has come in contact with the Gosselins has signed a non-disclosure! So, I'm hopeful that if there's no promising legal action taken at the next hearing, more people will "speak out" in more of a collective voice. [Boy, it's really hard for me to post to a message board, but you know what they say about those who stand by quietly and say -- or do-- nothing.]

K8. Fan. No more. said...

Aunt Chris said :
"I wish someone would touch her with a ten foot pole - REAL HARD!!!!!!"
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Oh. My. Gosh. This is by far the funniest thing EVER. I was literally laughing out LOUD.

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