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Off my pl8, K8! said...

Okay...so, I have to admit, that I LIKE Kate's new show...sorry. I hate to admit that I watch it..but I can not help myself! I try not to watch. It makes my skin crawl, and to be honest, I have to turn it off for a while before I go back and watch more. But, it is facinating!

Yes, they finally found the right vehicle for Kate...."INFESTED" is so perfect~!

(joke folks...she is like the snakes, spiders and mice...she is disgusting, irritating, invades and no matter what anyone does, she will NOT leave!)

Exhausted said...

I was just reading the other posts from the end of last week's free discussion. How disgusting that a parent needs to be forced/told to put money away for kids when they are the stars of the show (and then won't touch her own money to pay for their expenses).

I guess it is in keeping with a parent who needs to be told that she should hold a kid's hand or play with them in the front yard to show the world that she loves them. What a gross woman. She is too dumb and miserable to even pretend to be a good mother. And we wonder why the kids love the camera crew! I think that's the only thing Kate's not lying about--the production crew are the only people who pay them attention.

MomIAm said...

In the last discussion thread, someone asked when will the media stop giving her interviews and get tired of her. It is more about the public and ratings, than the media. As long as magazines sell when she is on the cover or more people watch TV shows she is on or read online articles about her, the media will continue to publish pictures and articles about her and the kids.

Online, the media is looking for a reaction and "hits" to web sites. The more hits, the more advertisers pay to be on those sites. The type of reaction doesn't always matter. If you post either your disgust or praise about what is published on the site, it is a hit so is counted. You visited the site. It caught your attention. Good. They will do the same thing again and again, until the well is dry and they can get more attention by focusing on someone else.

ChurchMouse said...

Off my pl8, K8! said...
"Okay...so, I have to admit, that I LIKE Kate's new show..."

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It's not a show. It's not entertainment. It's a cheap way for large companies to make millions.

The "participants" lose all of their privacy, without any of the financial and safety regulations that union shows have.

The following quote is from Paul Peterson's website, "A Minor Consideration":

"When a cast member of the "Survivors" reality show fell into a blazing fire pit on a remote beach no one lifted a finger to help the endangered performer. When Tom Forman, the Producer of the series was asked why even the camera man didn't drop his camera to help, he replied as follows: "If the camera man had stopped filming to help I would have fired him on the spot.""

You can read the full text here:
http://www.minorcon.org/when_children_work1.html

I understand why some want to watch. People are curious. (People also used to like to watch dog fights, too.) It appeals to our basest natures. But we can rise above that, and ask for good entertainment.

pinkdiamond611 said...

As a teacher, my thought is the children haven't been in school since before Christmas. Are they traveling with a teacher? We know that child actors need to have a teacher assigned to them, both in Cali. and on Broadway. I can't believe there are no laws to protect these children's rights. Taking away the income that they earned is one thing, but taking away their education so that their mother can get rich is child neglect. jmo

Good Insurance said...

Safety = Neild's salary

Education = School fees

Welfare = Nannies

Health = Organic food, dentistry, doctors' visits.
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I would hope that as working children, TLC at least insures them for medical and dental. Hopefully they are not paying out of pocket for doctors and dentists.

IDModo said...

In the previous thread: Look to the Stars quoted the PA DOL, in their letter, as saying that they had conducted an investigation into the children's safety.

At the hearing before Rep. Murt and the Committee, they testified that they had NOT conducted any site visits. Gloria Allred was quite incensed about this.

There were no site visits made to ensure that the physical workplace was safe; that the children's hours of work were being adhered to; thaht the children were attended by a parent at all times...the list goes on and on...

But the DOL said everything was OK because TLC told them it was.

Can someone help me to understand how this works?

Brummygirl said...

Good Insurance said...
Safety = Neild's salary

Education = School fees

Welfare = Nannies

Health = Organic food, dentistry, doctors' visits.
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I would hope that as working children, TLC at least insures them for medical and dental. Hopefully they are not paying out of pocket for doctors and dentists.
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But they have only recently been acknowledged as *working* children, what about the years they were considered *playing*?

KatesDirtyFlintstoneFeet said...

MomIAm said...
"...when will the media stop giving her interviews and get tired of her. It is more about the public and ratings, than the media....Online, the media is looking for a reaction and "hits" to web sites. The more hits, the more advertisers pay to be on those sites... If you post either your disgust or praise about what is published on the site, it is a hit so is counted. You visited the site. It caught your attention..."
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Well said MomIAm! So glad your statements got posted. I have been saying this for the past year, but my comments don't get posted anymore :o(

You Must Be Kidding said...

Good Insurance said:

I would hope that as working children, TLC at least insures them for medical and dental. Hopefully they are not paying out of pocket for doctors and dentists.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Why would TLC provide insurance? The children are not working for TLC, they are under contract WITH TLC. The children work for themselves.

That's right, "for themselves". Well, actually, for their parents, who are the ones who put the children under contract.

TLC is NOT the children's employer, and is under no obligation to provide insurance or anything else. That's up to their parents.

And you know what that's worth.

mindy said...

Don't they get free dental since they go to Jon's dad's practice?

Tami said...

Why would TLC provide insurance? The children are not working for TLC, they are under contract WITH TLC. The children work for themselves.

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I believe you are wrong. No, I am not going to google it. But anyone who appears on any television show or movie would be covered under that network's insurance. If they are contracted with them long term, that is their employer even if it was not publicly acknowledged before. That is their job, always has been. Television shows protect their assets, which the Gosselin kids are. They are certainly not self employed. Why do you think producers often get mad if a star puts themself in danger while not filming, or gets a radical haircut even? They are insured by and under contract.

Laurie said...

Churchmouse I think you misunderstood - Off my pl8! was talking about the show INFESTED and NOT K+8. It was a joke.

grannyoftwo said...

I find it humorous that maybe even God doesn't want Kate to be traveling with those children. There are floods in Australia now...get a clue KATE!

Brummygirl said...

KatesDirtyFlintstoneFeet said...
MomIAm said...
"...when will the media stop giving her interviews and get tired of her. It is more about the public and ratings, than the media....Online, the media is looking for a reaction and "hits" to web sites. The more hits, the more advertisers pay to be on those sites... If you post either your disgust or praise about what is published on the site, it is a hit so is counted. You visited the site. It caught your attention..."
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Well said MomIAm! So glad your statements got posted. I have been saying this for the past year, but my comments don't get posted anymore :o(
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Me too, have been saying this all along, but people still "accidentally come upon the show when flicking through channels or their relatives were watching so they did too". It is so easy to find these episodes afterwards on youtube or a certain sheeple's site.
There are more people out there other than GWOP of course, but if we do our bit to get this disgrace off t.v., we can feel better that at least we tried.
O.K., hope this is printed as my posts have not always made it to here and I never use profanity only honesty. I have put it down to mostly that I post late at night and maybe are missed.

Medical insurance said...

Good Insurance said...
I would hope that as working children, TLC at least insures them for medical and dental. Hopefully they are not paying out of pocket for doctors and dentists.

mindy said...
Don't they get free dental since they go to Jon's dad's practice?

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They're paying for their own insurance (it was listed on the paper ROL posted from a year ago when Kate was making copies of her expenses at Kinkos) and insurance was listed at quite a big figure.

As for Jon's dad's dental practice? Unless the new dentist is comping all 8 kids' dental care (and she'd really have no reason to do so), they're paying for that themselves, too since Jon's dad passed away over 5 years ago.

Drake said...

Tami said, "I believe you are wrong. No, I am not going to google it. But anyone who appears on any television show or movie would be covered under that network's insurance."

Nope, sorry, that's not how it works. Networks don't provide health insurance to their actors.

An actor can get insurance through SAG, but the coverage isn't the best. That's why for my son we've relied on the health insurance provided by my husband's employer.

DOL and TLC said...

IDModo,

Here is the letter about the DOL. You asked for help understanding why there were no home visits, etc, etc. IMO, there is no understanding of their decisions. They came off as idiots, IMO. The DOL let TLC off with a slap on the wrist and told them to get work permits for the kids and set up trusts and that was it.

http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0414_gosselin.pdf

Drake said...

Tami wrote, "They are certainly not self employed. Why do you think producers often get mad if a star puts themself in danger while not filming, or gets a radical haircut even? They are insured by and under contract."

This is wrong too. Actors are indeed considered self-employed -- much in the same way that a book author is considered self-employed even when he or she has a contract with a particular publisher.

But yes, a contract can include restrictions regarding what the star can do; for example, my son once had a recurring role in a TV show that required him to keep his hair a certain way. Production companies can also take out insurance that covers them in case an actor gets hurt, but this type of insurance doesn't pay the actor anything; instead, it compensates the company for lost income etc. if they have to shut down production.

Editorial assistant said...

Tami said...

I believe you are wrong. No, I am not going to google it. But anyone who appears on any television show or movie would be covered under that network's insurance. If they are contracted with them long term, that is their employer even if it was not publicly acknowledged before. That is their job, always has been.

The Gosselin's are not "employed". They're under contract to provide services. They are completely different things. Just as actors and actresses are under contract to perform in a movie and are paid for the work they do, they're not "employees" of the studio like salaried or hourly employees (such as camera and sound guys or editors) and they do NOT receive employee benefits such as insurance, 401k's, etc. The only insurance an actor is covered under is accident/injury/contract fulfillment/liability insurance.

I worked for a production company for over 7 years and I was an "employee" of theirs. The actors we filmed were under contract and received their pay plus any perks they negotiated, but they did not in any way receive employee "benefits" such as insurance like I did.

Editorial assistant said...

Tami said...
Television shows protect their assets, which the Gosselin kids are. They are certainly not self employed. Why do you think producers often get mad if a star puts themself in danger while not filming, or gets a radical haircut even? They are insured by and under contract.

I forgot to address this ^^^. You're right about contracted actors being covered under a studio's insurance for LIABILITY purposes, ie: they can't fulfill their contract because of injury or accident. The insurance coverage is for liability, not health.
If an actor got sick and couldn't fulfill their contract the liability insurance would kick in and pay the studio for damages or lost profit, but it would not pay for the actors medical insurance.

ChurchMouse said...

Laurie said...

Churchmouse I think you misunderstood - Off my pl8! was talking about the show INFESTED and NOT K+8. It was a joke.

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Mea Culpa. I understand now.

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Tami said...

"Television shows protect their assets, which the Gosselin kids are.

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No, they don't "protect" anything. They use who and what they can, and have no interests in anyone or anything that can no longer make money for them. WHICH IS WHY is is so important for performers in the Entertainment Industry have the best representation, ability to negotiate contracts, safety and financial regulations.
And "reality shows" have NONE of that.
I can refer you to a short article called, "When Children Work: A Dialogue" on Paul Peterson's site, "A Minor Consideration":
http://www.minorcon.org/when_children_work1.html

Not Quite Right said...

Tami said:

Television shows protect their assets, which the Gosselin kids are. They are certainly not self employed. Why do you think producers often get mad if a star puts themself in danger while not filming, or gets a radical haircut even? They are insured by and under contract.

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You are talking about a completely different kind of insurance. Stars are insured by studios, etc., to cover the studio's financial loss if anything happens to the stars. That has nothing to do with health insurance or dental coverage for the actors.

Contract employees, like the Gosselins, or like consultants, who also work under contract, and not as direct hires, do not typically receive benefits. This is one reason why they are hired under contract - benefits are costly, and companies use contract employees so that they do not have to provide benefits. It's quite common.

Significantly, contract employees are almost always hired when the "employer" is aware that the relationship will be fleeting. The consultant's contract can be terminated, or allowed to run its course, without all the bother of actually firing someone.

Health and dental insurance, personal life insurance, pension plans, etc., must all be taken care of personally by the person working as a contractor. If Kate is not doing this for her children, it's not getting done.

If she has a good lawyer, the lawyer would have made sure the kids had these protections as part of standard business planning. But I think we all know the odds that Kate either 1) got good advice, or 2) listened to it, are slim at best.

Jon's father died several years ago. Whoever bought the practice may or may not provide dental care to the children, but that's the sort of "perk" that is unlikely to last forever. Whoever runs that office now has probably realized that the negatives of dealing with Kate far outweigh any positives.

so sick of her said...

I don't know if any of you guys know about back in Oct 2009, Jon filed contempt of court charges on Kate for taking money out of a joint account and he won and she for every month she did not pay the money back it cost her a fine?. I think this was at the same time, Kate went on TV saying that Jon stole $240,000 from another account. And according to a court docket, Jon filed a contempt of court or custody contempt charge on Kate, first. That is why the story(damage control) came out about Kate calls Jon from Aussie to let him talk to his kids. So, who leaked the story of Kate filing a contempt charge against Jon? Katie Dearest? I will say this, if Kate really wants to get even(in her mind)with Jon, give him half of the visitation rights. I would, they are half his. But, she needs her money makers. That is all she cares about. I also heard they are on their way home. So, how much more school are they gonna miss, once they are back home? Another week? Or are they gonna be homeschooled?

dustilies said...

So sick of her wrote:

I also heard they are on their way home. So, how much more school are they gonna miss, once they are back home? Another week? Or are they gonna be homeschooled?

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Sydney is 15 hours ahead of EDST (Eastern Daylight Savings Time).

In my travels back and forth from China (13 hours ahead), I have found that the rule of one day of recovery required for each time zone crossed pretty accurate, especially on the trip from the Pacific rim to the US.

I'm a mess for three days, functional in five, but don't feel fully normal for about least ten.

Kids are more resilient--but there is this problem when day is night and night is day: it is harder for a kid to understand why you have to push yourself to stay awake and active during the day and to stay quiet (if not sleeping) at night. It helps also to be outside at dusk and dawn--the changing light, when seen fully by the eyes, helps the brain reset your internal clock.

So I'd guess they'd be at least another week out of school. Wonder how well they kept up with the curriculum while traveling?

Script Writer said...

Editorial Asst is correct about the insurance. Next time you check, you will see at the end of K8 that is a K+8 Production. I write scripts for TV shows.

I have to assume all production costs, if a script is bought and I were to co produce; otherwise, I can outright sell an idea.

As Edit Asst said, the Gosselin's private health/dental insurance is covered under K_+8 productions, not TLC. TLC buys the episodes and pays for the production @$250,000 and TLC pays all the travel, costs but not the personal costs of health/med/sur/dental/eyeglasses. That is all Kate' to pay.

TLC coveres liability, in the middle of filming, the kids get the flu, etc., shut down production (oh yes, Kate keeps the camera rolling, doesn't she) well in ordinary circumstances. Insurance would pay the crew.

K+8 is not a scheduled weekly format, so whenever they get the footage, that is when they schedule a show. Independent contractor.

Edit Asst is right with this one.

Only person caring about those kids and their shots/dental appts is hopefully their mother.

planet's not a pluto said...

As for Jon's dad's dental practice? Unless the new dentist is comping all 8 kids' dental care (and she'd really have no reason to do so), they're paying for that themselves, too since Jon's dad passed away over 5 years ago.

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At least two episodes have been about the dentist. It is possible those visits were free in exchange for the free advertising and publicity.

Gosselin8ComeFirst said...

Question/Comments- Some of the sheeple claim that they are all about the kids. Yet they rip Jon apart from limb to limb at every opportunity. And endlessly claim Kate is a great mom(?), excuse her horrible behavior, and never seem to really get this is all about the kids losing their childhood to a former selfish father, and always selfish mother, since the divorce, more so now than ever.

Rather than defending Kate's chronic disgusting brand, pulling them out of school, and constantly making things miserable, while bad mouthing their father constantly on TV or to any media outlet who will listen, and considering how all of this filming is effecting and not embarrassing to the kids(who face their classmates/friends daily, as they have their lives exposed to peers for constant scrutiny, how can they ever say this is the best thing for the kids and constantly defend Kate's choices? If my mom had posed endlessly in bikini photos, insisted that I film, no matter how I felt about it, constantly bashed my father, and went on TV show or interview constantly berating my father, I would feel like she did not give one crap about how any of this made me feel. Seriously, I don't get their stance unless they are either vouyers, or refuse to budge on what Kate ORIGINALLY was and has now become. Seems very elementary to me that both parents need to get jobs, minus the kids, so they can support them. The kids will have a better life, if both parents do what is best for them, and that is to leave them out of all of the media crap/filiming and let them live normal lives. Minus the show. The kids do not benefit from the show,by now they are completely mortified from all of the media coverage and ridicule they have been exposed to. So Why oh why do the sheeples insist this is best for the kids? Or are they only considering Kate and what is best for HER? I just don't get how they can claim their interest is and always was the kids. It is perverse. MANY families have raised 8 kids working as nurses and IT analysts. Kate can get a job and leave the kids out of it. What mother continues to rely on her kids to support HER?~! That is her job! You budget from there, and do what is best for your kids to give them a normal childhood. The kids did not sign up for this and I guarantee if the Court took the time to ask the kids, without Kate's input, they would most likely say they do not want to be in the spotlight anymore. They really do seem like decent kids, but there are several completely falling apart that we know of, and if that is not the huge red flag, I don't know what ever will be. The few remaining sheeples need to have more respect for the kids, but as long as the former Kate is their idle, don't think this will happen for some, although many enlightened people are actually getting how harmful this is for the kids. Let Kate fail on her own. Most people think she is a horrible mother, with due cause, are looking at the kids' best interest and not Kate. She has even said that she will need to support them until they complete college. She has no plan as no one gives a crap about her alone. Go it alone Kate to support your kids, please. Otherwise, we will have Kate Plus 8 with college age students. For the few remaining Sheeples, wake up. This woman is the worst user ever.

Sorry for the rant.

Very tired of her and her children said...

As Kate loses her income, she will have the kids home schooled, so that she doesn't have that expense. Bet on that. Education is not on her list of priorities for her children.

She should have insured that all of her children had known their letters/numbers/symbols by the time they were 3. They were at home, waiting to be filmed, locked in that house. So instead of the kids beating the hell out of each other and Kate beating Jon up, she could have hired a teaching student at the local college. Those kids would have been up to par by pre K. Plus their anger issues would have been brought to the forefront.

No way those 2 kids just started hitting each other, other kids, their teachers in that class this past September. They were reacting to being made to do something, attend school, follow routine, learn, follow directions.

Yep, she is worthless as a mother and by the time the 8 get back, at least 6 will wonder why they have to get on that cold school bus, ride for an hour to school and be bored and not be running wild, beating each other, laying around watching Mommy in hardly any clothes posing for Uncle Steve.

The twins will be glad to be back. They probably hate that trip, taking care of the little kids, dragging luggage around, knowing that school was going on and they weren't with their friends.
For them I am sad.

How much sadder to end up with these 2 parents who put these kids into this mess.

julie a said...

I was over at the tlc site and read the last entry from Kate. She speaks about watching the Sound of Music with the twins. I wonder if she noticed that just before Maria is fired, she begs the captain to appeciate each child's individuality. And once Maria comes into their lives, the children no longer have to wear matching uniforms.

Contemptuous Kate said...

so sick of her said...
I don't know if any of you guys know about back in Oct 2009, Jon filed contempt of court charges on Kate for taking money out of a joint account and he won and she for every month she did not pay the money back it cost her a fine? ...And according to a court docket, Jon filed a contempt of court or custody contempt charge on Kate, first. That is why the story(damage control) came out about Kate calls Jon from Aussie to let him talk to his kids. So, who leaked the story of Kate filing a contempt charge against Jon?

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The story that came out last week wasn't referring the case in'09 at all. It was referenced INCORRECTLY (was it a mistake or on purpose is the real question) by TMZ and said that Kate was filing contempt charges against Jon for leaking information.

The real information came out and the truth is that Jon filed contempt charges against Kate on 1/6/11. There is a copy of the court docket at Pressi's for you to see.

ChurchMouse said...

Very tired of her and her children said...
"...She should have insured that all of her children had known their letters/numbers/symbols by the time they were 3..."

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She was too busy with showing them only one symbol--the dollar sign.

so sick of her said...

Comtemptous Kate: I got this from the other web-site (they were talking about the contempt charges)and they were talking about back in Oct.of 2009, that very few people knew about, cause Katie Dearest, made a fuss about, the $240,000 or was it $125,000, that Jon took out of a joint account and this was shoved under the rug. Check this out:
www.etonline.com/documents/gosselinexchange_ins.pdf

It looks legit. The court ruled in Jons' favor.

kate can't do sh** said...

I wanted to say that speaking from experience, it is not until you get older, have your own children and reflect on your life that you figure out how your parents might have messed up. IMO, I don't think all 8 kids can, at this point, possibly know what their grifter mother is doing to them right now. They lack the maturity and life experience to put it all in to perspective. One day they will but I don't believe they think their mom is selfish. They are kids doing what their mother tells them to do. They obey her. They are kids.

My mother left my father when I was little. We moved in with a female friend of hers. I always wondered why she never dated and she told me it was because she was putting me first and that she wasn't like those other women who dated and skanked around and put their kids second. I thought that was noble and selfless. Turns out she was in a sexual relationship with the other woman and had lied to me all those years. I did not confront her about this until I was in my 30's. It was ugly when it happened.

The Gosselin kids will figure it all out one day. But it won't be until they mature. Patience is a virtue don't you know....

honestly, ironicly said...

Goodie, Katan is arriving back home, how many days before K goes to Reading to get her mani pedi, spray tan and then NY to have the roots done, after all, the media interviews begin: The Today Show, ET, then court where she bashing the absolute crap out of Jon, if she ever DID anything for anyone but herself, it would likely put her into cardiac arrest.

What a selfish, self centered Bitch.No wonder no one bothers with her except paid employees. Mean, spirited and self absorbed. Bet you won't see her putting her kids on the bus that first day back at school. Oh no. Daddy will be allowed to do that. Mommy will be sleeping in late just a floor or two above Uncle Steve.

Snow Globe said...

"she could have hired a teaching student at the local college. Those kids would have been up to par by pre K. Plus their anger issues would have been brought to the forefront."

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Their anger issues were at the forefront. The problem is that their mother is in denial that there *is* a problem. A student at a local college has absolutely no training in dealing with anger issues. Students are not therapists. I think the kids' anger/rage issues are far deeper than any student is capable of dealing with. Moreover, if a teacher/student at a local college would have even dared approach the subject of emotional issues among the kids, how long do you think it would have taken before she would have been fired?

Shoka's Understudy said...

Can you imagine when Jon finally gets the kids and they have their time, and when he has to go and take them back to the big house how they are going to react going back to the Beasto Maresto?

God love them extra on that!

Be strong, kids!

Contemptuous Kate said...

so sick of her said...
Comtemptous Kate: I got this from the other web-site (they were talking about the contempt charges)and they were talking about back in Oct.of 2009, that very few people knew about, cause Katie Dearest, made a fuss about, the $240,000 or was it $125,000, that Jon took out of a joint account and this was shoved under the rug. Check this out:
www.etonline.com/documents/gosselinexchange_ins.pdf

It looks legit. The court ruled in Jons' favor.

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There is no court stamp on the papers, nor is there anything on the docket that indicates the judge ruled in their favor. The papers were written by Jon's attorney in '09 and were requests that the judge rule that way. We dont' know if he did.

Seasons In The Sun said...

If anyone questions that there was a ruling on Jon's Counterclaim for contempt (2009), the document clearly shows that on Page 3: "Ordered and Decreed"...

2. Husband's Counter-Claim is GRANTED and Wife is found to be in CONTEMPT of the Arbirtration Awards dated July 10, 2009 and August 19, 2009.

http://www.etonline.com/documents/gosselinexchange_ins.pdf

Seasons In The Sun said...

Ironicly said,

"What a selfish, self centered Bitch.No wonder no one bothers with her except paid employees."

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Sherri Shepherd, the sheeple, consistently sucks up to her, even offering to blow up Jon's car for her. Kate says that Gina is one of her close friends; Jamie and Carla bother with her (are they paid, or are they just recipients of perks?); do her sisters still bother with her...isn't one of them a big supporter?

I would bet that her Number 1 fan who maintains a sheeple blog would jump on the chance to bother with her!

ChurchMouse said...

Whatever happened to "Twist of Kate?"

Is it possible that Ms. Gosselin didn't like the conditions for the new show?

Gee, if only she were a SAG or AFTRA member, then she might have some leverage.

Of course, then TLC would drop her on the spot. Can't be bothered with union members--they cost too much money & have too much business savvy.

And since Eileen O'Neill has now got oversight of the Discovery Channel, you'll probably see more crap "reality" shows on there as well.

Ms. Gosselin is no longer the flavor of the month. Unfortunately, no one ever told her that Fame is A Fickle Friend. All professional performers look ahead to their next gig, and try to keep their reps untarnished.

I keep saying this--Ms. Gosselin doesn't know the Industry. She probably has Steve assigned to her to keep her from speaking to other Industry mothers, or union members.

As for the kids, just get them out of the film Industry. She doesn't know how to legally and properly provide for kids in the business. Period.

And anyone who says otherwise has only been on one side of the television screen. Usually with a TV dinner in front of them.

winsomeone said...

I see by the various court papers, that Kate's real name is Katie. So how and why did it become Kate? Wonder if she has always called herself Kate rather than her given name?

Kittie6 said...

Seasons in the Sun: It is believed that Carla and Jamie are paid by TLC. I have not seen "proof", but I am not invested in Khate's life enough to require seeing it. I believe her younger sister supports Khate as part of her Christian beliefs, but the two are not close. This sister is close to the parents.

she is evil said...

What HUGE balls Kate has to bash Jon publicly and to sabotage his relationship with the kids when she has so many skeletons in her closet. Her mistreatment of the kids' dad is not only self-defeating, it's harmful to her children. I'm thrilled that was found in contempt. Betcha it had to do with her 'I can't pay my bills because Jon stole from me' extravaganza. With her many sins (starting way back with her intentionally trying for HOMs for profit), it would have been in Kate's best interest, and of course the kids's, to be nice to Jon. He's so easygoing he probably would have facilitated anything within reason if she had just treated him with the respect he deserves. Even after all of her bashing, he still extended the olive branch several times, only to
be rejected and dissed further. The tragedy is that the kids have had to live with all this unnecessary and hurtful animosity and this circus of bullshit all because they were unfortunate enough to be born to a narcissistic, evil, selfish 'mother'

she is evil said...

Just curious...anyone out there know about how much the services of Kate's PR people is costing her? I don't want exact figures, just a ballpark amount that she may be paying to keep her leathery self in the tabloids. They sure work hard for their money, whatever the paycheck

Fees please said...

she is evil said...
Just curious...anyone out there know about how much the services of Kate's PR people is costing her?

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IDK about her PR people, but agents and managers typically make 20-30% and up. Many PR firms are paid a flat fee and the bigger the celeb, the more they pay.

Kia Ora said...

Too funny she is at "The Jersey Boys" show. Most likely she was bought up in the Neil Diamond era.

hayden said...

Snow Globe said...

"Their anger issues were at the forefront. The problem is that their mother is in denial that there *is* a problem. A student at a local college has absolutely no training in dealing with anger issues. Students are not therapists. I think the kids' anger/rage issues are far deeper than any student is capable of dealing with. Moreover, if a teacher/student at a local college would have even dared approach the subject of emotional issues among the kids, how long do you think it would have taken before she would have been fired?"
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Exactly, Snowglobe. IMO, Kate would rather ignore the problems. For two reasons. She does not want anything to interfere with all the taping she and TLC surely has planned for every upcoming school break and summer and also, she doesn't want there to be any chance of the children expressing to a professional any thoughts or issues that do not mesh with her agenda. I would imagine those reports would have to be made available to Jon and or the court.

The locals here and on other blogs who are familiar with the private school have said the withdrawing of the two tups is unheard of. They felt it meant Kate was not willing to go along with the plan of intervention the school was recommending. While we don't know that to be fact, it certainly appears that way. The rumor that all the kids or just the tups are not returning to their school (depending on the rumor) is frightening. That would mean Kate would be isolating the children completely so they would only be surrounded with yes people she controls and employs.

I can't give Jon enough credit for how he's handled himself and the custody issues in the last year. The self-restraint he has to exercize in dealing with Khate is off the charts. As we've seen from the documents which have come out recently, Kate feels she is above the law. She has tried her best (and apparently is still trying) to bait Jon into a court violation. His silence every time means he's not going to lower himself to her level and it makes her look like a riduculous jerk. The wheels of justice turn very slowly, but I predict Kate will hang herself with her self-centered behavior and disregard for the law. As it always does with Kate, it will take a very long time. But it will happen.

ChurchMouse said...

Seasons In The Sun said...
"Sherri Shepherd, the sheeple, consistently sucks up to her, even offering to blow up Jon's car for her..."

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I would ask if Ms. Shepherd a member of SAG or AFTRA?

Then I would ask Ms. Shepard, why she wouldn't want any other performers to have the same benefits that she does?

Maybe she isn't aware--maybe she is under the same delusion that others are-- that PARTICIPANTS in "reality television" have the same legal, financial and safety protections that she does.

Is Ms. Shepherd willing to admit that such Entertainment Industry standards should be equal across the board? Would she allow her own children to be filmed without such protections?

Brummygirl said...

Church Mouse said:
Let NO FAMILY have to be in a situation where they must sell their kids--whether it be to coal mines, sweatshops, or the dazzling purgatory called, "reality television."
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Well said. It brings to mind the quote "there, but for the gift of God go I."

Disgusted in TX said...

Seasons in the SUn said:

If anyone questions that there was a ruling on Jon's Counterclaim for contempt (2009), the document clearly shows that on Page 3: "Ordered and Decreed"...

2. Husband's Counter-Claim is GRANTED and Wife is found to be in CONTEMPT of the Arbirtration Awards dated July 10, 2009 and August 19, 2009.

http://www.etonline.com/documents/gosselinexchange_ins.pdf

1/15/2011 11:43 PM
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Page three of that link is part of what Jon's lawyer filed. There is no date on it NOR --importantly--the signature of the Judge. That line is blank. This is the proposed order Jon filed with his emergency petition, and it is standard for a party in litigation to file a proposed order asking for what they want. It is for the convenience of the Court that this is filed. Again, without the Judge's signature, this is nothing but a piece of paper.

Disgusted in TX said...

I think this is a simple question worthy of discussion: what benefits does anyone find in a reality show for those who participate in it? The only benefit is financial, and beyond that, everything I can think of about it is negative. The stress of putting your life under scrutiny, losing your privacy, and the emotional roller coaster you jump on to be in a reality show must be overwhelming for children and adults alike.

So, for the sheeple or anyone else, I again ask what benefits--besides financial--do they find in a reality show?

hair me said...

winsomeone said...
I see by the various court papers, that Kate's real name is Katie. So how and why did it become Kate? Wonder if she has always called herself Kate rather than her given name?



on the hair cut trips the lady calls her Katie

You Can Call Me Al said...

I see by the various court papers, that Kate's real name is Katie. So how and why did it become Kate? Wonder if she has always called herself Kate rather than her given name?

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It rhymed with Eight. They couldn't very well call the show Jon and Katie Plus Eight. "Kate" flows off the tongue much better!

Barbra said...

How about 'kate plus 8 (eight/ate)? Although...
I bet she'd go for 'katie plus 80 (eighty/atie) More $$$$$$, NOT going to key in 80 $$$$$$ but I'm sure you all get where I'm going.

so sick of her said...

As, someone said here, it was reported on Tweeter? that Kate is in NYC. Well, it did not take her long to get another childless vacation from her kids. How many of you moms out there can ID with that. Do you get a private vacation from your kids after you just came back from a vacation? OOOPs, sorry a work assignment! That the whole world called a vacation! So which is it a vacation or work? I suppose the sheeple will call it a working vacation! And it was soooo educational, and the kids looked soooo happy. Yeah, sure they did. I suppose the pics(if that was her, that this was not a Sheeple plant)will appear tommorrow, and Kate will be at the hair salon, and buying some new slut clothes. Then home to PA to call Chris to take her pics going to Target, Fed-ex, get gas, take kids to & from school(that is if the 6 are going back to school). We should take a bet on what pics will be next. I say after the NYC trip(that is if that is her, so far no airport pics from NZ, or any other news), Fed-ex. Anyone else?

ChurchMouse said...

Disgusted in TX said...
"I think this is a simple question worthy of discussion: what benefits does anyone find in a reality show for those who participate in it?..."

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The same thing that attracts the ignorant and the desperate: money.

Quick money.

Not a stable career, where your financial and personal safety are guaranteed by law, but a rollar-coaster ride, until you are replaced by the next new thing.

On The Road Again said...

Then home to PA to call Chris to take her pics going to Target, Fed-ex, get gas, take kids to & from school(that is if the 6 are going back to school).

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Kate doesn't take the kids to and from school. They ride the bus. A two-hour ride in the car with them (with no paid help) would be above and beyond what she expects parenting to be.

E-town Neighbor said...

winsomeone said, "Wonder if she has always called herself Kate rather than her given name?"

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No. Throughout school she was Katie Kreider.

Kristine said...

(I posted this on a gossip site that a crazed, maniacal blogging Sheeple goes on for hours, upon hours on a daily basis. Does anyone think this said Sheep, will finally listen to reason? Nope.)

"Let's face it... Anyone with a brain- knows Kate Gosselin is a greedy, selfish, disgusting compulsive liar.

It is likely that she is in NYC to appear on The Today Show, first thing tomorrow morning. She will tell Meredith all about her (not so private) legal battle with 'that sorry-excuse-for-a-father', Jon. She will muster up some more crocodile tears... left over from her trip to Australia... then claim Jon is in contempt for Twittering-- although she herself is in fact in contempt, for doing the interview(s)."

Berks Has Shoes! said...

Kate was ordered to put the money back. Period. She admitted she had to put the money back. I remember this well. It was reported in our local media. She wouldn't have put it back on her own, out of the goodness of her own heart. She was ORDERED to put it back. It was decreed and ORDERED that she was found in contempt.

so sick of her said...

On the Road again, I was refering to the pics the pap Chris takes of her dropping the kids off at the school bus pick-up point. We know she will call him, and the headline will read exhausted Kate getting back into the swing of things after vacation(ooops, work!). I will believe if she is indeed in NYC , if a pic is published. I was at the dark-side and they,(the few that remain), one said that they read at another blog that Kate is in LA, and probably sent the kids to PA. So, Kate can not be in 2 places at the same time, LA or NYC. So either this is some Sheeple BS, or Kate is in LA or NYC or neither and is at home. I could see her being in LA, for ET? The Golden Globes are on tonight. Party time after? Not NYC, cause most if not all paps are in LA. Also, how come there are no pics yet? The last thing reported of Kate was almost 2 days ago.

On The Road Again said...

On the Road again, I was refering to the pics the pap Chris takes of her dropping the kids off at the school bus pick-up point

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Sorry. You said, "to and from school," not to and from the bus stop. I took it literally.

so sick her said...

No worries On the Road Again :). We know Kate has to show the world what a good mom she is. LOLOLOLOL Anything to keep her mug in the media.

Exhausted said...

Disgusted in TX said...

So, for the sheeple or anyone else, I again ask what benefits--besides financial--do they find in a reality show?
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You would have to be mental. Seriously. The financial gain couldn't be enough. I said this before, but when we have construction people in the house even, I can't stand the way they change our family dynamic. I can't imagine camera people and a production crew camped out in there. I also value our privacy like most people do. It must be for people who want so much attention and this is the only thing noteworthy they can do--for instance, like the type of woman who would, say, decorate her twins' stroller in a parade for people to look at her! Maybe that's what is so attractive about the whole Kate mystique to the sheeple. They are mostly people who haven't achieved much in life and they see as an idol a woman who had very few talents and zero class who could still get money and get on magazine covers. Selling your family's privacy must not seem like anything to get that sort of attention!

I'm rambling, but one more thing: my daughter was watching Annie tonight, and Miss Hannigan reminded me so much of someone. I think her eyes and skin and her hatred of the children reminded me of Kate! Only Carol Burnett is a much more charming woman even in this role.

Drake said...

Disgusted in TX said, "I again ask what benefits--besides financial--do they find in a reality show?"

If you're asking why someone would sign up to be on such a show, my answer is that the prospect of becoming famous can be as big a draw as money for some people.

If you're asking why anyone would want to continue doing a reality show once they find out what it's like, then my answer is that being the center of attention on a shoot is quite a heady experience. The production crew takes care of your every need, fusses over you, keeps asking how you're doing. After watching my son experience this, I totally understand the allure of keeping yourself in the limelight -- but I'm glad my son has learned there are more important things in life.

Disgusted in TX said...

ChurchMouse said...
Disgusted in TX said...
"I think this is a simple question worthy of discussion: what benefits does anyone find in a reality show for those who participate in it?..."

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The same thing that attracts the ignorant and the desperate: money.

Quick money.

Not a stable career, where your financial and personal safety are guaranteed by law, but a rollar-coaster ride, until you are replaced by the next new thing.

1/16/2011 3:00 PM

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Churchmouse: Adding "quick" so changes the dynamics, and you are right--ignorant and desperate will come out for quick money.
Thank you!

Tami said...

Seasons in the Sun: It is believed that Carla and Jamie are paid by TLC. I have not seen "proof", but I am not invested in Khate's life enough to require seeing it. I believe her younger sister supports Khate as part of her Christian beliefs, but the two are not close. This sister is close to the parents.
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I believe they are paid. You can't tell me Carla is a friend the way she is treated. If she is, she is such a naive woman with rock bottom self esteem. Remember how she was treated at the yard sale for charity? Please. That is no friendship. She was there to work, period. Jamie came out of the woodwork. She is either paid or is just in it for the free trips and attention, probably gets paid for appearances on the show. How could Gina be a friend? Her husband supposedly spend Thanksgiving at Kate's home without her. What kind of woman would put up with that and fend for herself on the holidays? I don't care who says she's still with Steve but it's good money for them. I don't believe it. She is being cheated on and is not friends with Kate in any way IMO. Nope. No real friends or love in Kate's life.

Disgusted in TX said...

Berks Has Shoes! said...
Kate was ordered to put the money back. Period. She admitted she had to put the money back. I remember this well. It was reported in our local media. She wouldn't have put it back on her own, out of the goodness of her own heart. She was ORDERED to put it back. It was decreed and ORDERED that she was found in contempt.

1/16/2011 5:30 PM

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I have not seen nor have I looked at any court records. I was interpreting what was linked on this site--which was a draft order attached to a pleading Jon's attorney filed. Unless we see an order signed by the judge, we don't know for sure. I would not be surprised if the court ordered BOTH parties to return money as part of a standard order that happens in divorce cases. There are many standard orders that issue (in anticipation of the games people play) to put everyone on an even playing field, particularly when it comes to money and kids.
My whole point is that I would not read a whole lot into the fact that the court may have issued an order against a party, nor would I assume that either party did anything wrong. The orders are often preemptive. And this is not to suggest that I am taking sides of either party, just that we should view things with a more critical and filtering eye.

dustilies said...

I find it odd that our dear Kart might or does have "Katie" as her legal name.

Kate and Katie are both nicknames for Catherine, Kathryn, Kathleen, or Caitlin. Sometimes Colleen. My real name is one of those, and my nicknames are Katy and Kate.

If her parents put "Katie" on her birth certificate, it would be like naming a girl "Susie" instead Susan.

BUT a quick check with the list of most popular baby names that the social security office maintains indicates that plenty of folks put Katie, Katy, and Kathy and Cate etc.
on birth certificates.

In 1974, around when our Kate was born, Katie was the 229th most popular name.

So, I've learned my new thing for the day!

If you want to check out the records for your own name or a relatives, just google "popular baby names" and your first hit should be soc sec database (goes back to 1879, I think).

E-Town Neighbor said...

If her parents put "Katie" on her birth certificate, it would be like naming a girl "Susie" instead Susan.

^^^^^^^^^^^

It happens, especially here in Amish Country. There are many, many Plain People named Susie, but never Susan. In fact, my great-aunt's "real" name was Susie (Kreider)...NO relation to Kate (at least I HOPE not!).

DUCK said...

Churchmouse said

What ever happened to twist of kate?

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She has been filming on this vaccation. Walking in our Mother Shoes about wearing binkini's with post baby bod's, the hassles of horse back riding in up to there skirts and hooker heals, riding a plane for 20 hours with your own children, fancy dinners with our hired boy toy help, attending special tours of zoo's, and teaching us all how to strike a come and take me pose by the pool. I know I REALLY needed these lessons imparted on me. IT is SOOOOOOOO hard living like this. I'm glad she has finally seen how the other side lives and was able to help me with my life! You go Kate!!!!!

Leigh Ann said...

BUT a quick check with the list of most popular baby names that the social security office maintains indicates that plenty of folks put Katie, Katy, and Kathy and Cate etc.
on birth certificates.
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My great-grandmother was named Katie and so is one of my cousins. I wanted to name my daughter just plain Katy, but my husband said no one would take her seriously. It hasn't been a problem for Katie Couric (whose real name is Katherine) or Katey Segal. So we compromised and her legal name is Kathleen. Kate was originally a nickname for the same names, but has become a stand-alone name.

I imagine Kate just decided at one point that Kate sounded more grown-up than Katie.

For information on baby names, look up the baby name voyager. It gives graphs of popularity and is really neat to look at.

Exhausted said...

Drake said...

If you're asking why anyone would want to continue doing a reality show once they find out what it's like, then my answer is that being the center of attention on a shoot is quite a heady experience.
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I think that is exactly the answer to why Kate would keep doing all this despite how awful her reputation is. To her, it's better for the world to think you're scum and get chauffered around and get all this attention--assistants, interviews, PR people who try their darndest to make you look good, etc--than to just be plain and have none of that. I'd rather have my kids think of me as a good parent, but I guess that's the last thing on her mind.

She's addicted to the fame said...

Disgusted in TX said...
I think this is a simple question worthy of discussion: what benefits does anyone find in a reality show for those who participate in it? The only benefit is financial, and beyond that, everything I can think of about it is negative. ...
So, for the sheeple or anyone else, I again ask what benefits--besides financial--do they find in a reality show?

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F.A.M.E.

Shoka's Understudy said...

Well, today is MLK day, so the kids should be out of school today. So tomorrow will be the test to see if Mady, Cara, Leah, Joel, Hannah and Aaden go to school tomorrow. I just don't believe that Jon would go along with kate homeschooling ALL the kids, if that is what she has in her plans.

For kate to file a contempt of court on Jon for tweeting, shows how desperate she is to control and isolate the kids from the real world, so she can continue to film the you know what out of them so she can keep up her extravagant lifestyle.

It is a crying shame that Jon can't even twit that he and the kids enjoyed a spagetti supper with all the trimmings without kate having a spasm.

Next month in court, may she have a major spasm in front of the judge, so he has to bang his gavel really hard and shout at her to get herself together.

Maybe when she walks into court in the highest stiletos that the kids unknowingly bought for her, they will twist together and she will start to fall, and that will be the new intro to her new show, Twist of kate!

too bad, so sad said...

Lots of comments on this thread about the support of Kate by the die hard sheeple. I have read their posts on several occasions. The ongoing comment is: I would have(they usually use the word "of")done the same thing. I think this underlines how much they identify with her. Then any comment criticizing Kate they feel is bashing them personally.
They have the opinion that fame and money are the road to happiness. A trip to a resort brings more happiness than those spur of the moment activities we so adore with our kids.
They mistake outrageous fits and temper as being "strong." They applaud it and "wish I was more like that" stating Kate doesn't take any cr*p from anyone.
They seem to not be able to see any alternatives to a situation,"she has to film to support her kids" This seems to indicate a lack of creativity and divergence in their thought process. So, things are viewed as always right or always wrong-Kate then has to be perfect, and Jon a loser.
They really don't seem to have an understanding of child development and what makes a child self confident and emotionally secure.
I actually feel pity for them.
They confuse pleasure for happiness
weakness,inability to control one's emotions for strength
control for intelligence
money for security
attention for love
obedience for respect/trust
celebrity for affection
hanging on for loyality
a make believe personality as a role model for what a woman should be.
They are not necessarily uneducated, young or unable to be successful in business, Probably they just never received the knowledge of what really brings happiness in one's life, like living a purpose driven life, unconditional love for family and friends, and kindness and compassion for others.
No matter what evidence or logic they are shown it will be filtered through their own preconceived idea and will be dismissed as a lie.
I don't think they will give up on Kate anytime soon.

I'm Ready, Mr.DeMille said...

In regards to "Twist of Kate"....At the filming in the diner, she had the old "possum doo" and the old body (before the "magic bra"). It will definitely need a heck of a lot of "tweaking" to bring it up to date.I guess they could present it as a "vintage film" in black and white and as a dream sequence. It was just another one of K8's "Can Do" dreams.

Ready When You Are, CB said...

At the filming in the diner, she had the old "possum doo" and the old body (before the "magic bra").

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When was that filmed, and when was that good bra first purchased?

Kimmie Sue, but call me Kim from PA said...

In discussing names. In that part of PA and even further upstate, the ie in names is common i.e., Kimmie Sue vs Kimmie and Katie Irene vs Kate or Catherine, etc., Jimmie vs James or Jim. It is embarrassing as one gets older and doesn't want to be called Danny when 21 but Dan and here he is legally writing Danny on his paperwork. Just a custom and the more you travel in upstate PA, the more you see that in the court documents.

As for the Nannies, babysitters. I realize that they are considered part time workers as they are not there all the time except for trips. Yet, I don't know who does pay them Katie or TLC. Now, Internal Revenue Service, is the Social Security Tax and the State of Pennsylvania taxes being paid along with the other taxes?

Seems that some pretty important Congressman, Supreme Court candidates lost their bids for higher positions due to "not paying taxes" hmmmmm, should be something that is checked out.

In PA, is there a law that says after working so many weeks at 39 or 40 hours makes you a full time employee and therefore taxable. After all, these baby sitters are not the kids down the street working for 3 or 4 hours while you and your hubby go to the movies.

Can't have it both ways Katie, dear.

Oh, by the way, I keep seeing the headline that the 2 Gosselin children are bullies and kicked out of school. The word bullies is the word describing the action.

Could it be that the kids are bullies because Mommy is a bullie too?

I have seen some of her actions on You Tube and TLC and her recent K8 and I think she is a bullie. She grabs those kids by arms, by jackets by their chins. bullies do that.

Yelling at your hubby in a toy store "hello, hello" and screaming like a banshe is like a bullie, isn't it? I mean you get your way by hitting, yelling, screaming and everyone is afraid of you.

Yep, she is now going after Jon again, bullying him again after he sent a tweet or two. She bullies him so that he has no voice. She can drag those kids all around Philadelphia, Australia and wherever and that is okay, but Jon cannot say he had a nice couple of days with his children?

Will the Bully win again?

Maybe that is what the new show should be "Twist of Bully".

Get her off of the TV, out of the headlines and forever buried in one of those time capsules right along side Joan Crawford.

LancNative said...

"This seems to indicate a lack of creativity and divergence in their thought process."

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This is quite obvious when you consider that they visit other boards and take the post back to their board so that it can be dissected to the nth degree. They have to rely on the thoughts and insights of others in order to have discussions among themselves.

I'd almost feel sorry for them if they hadn't decided that their "creativity" should take the form of planting stories on other sites just to stir things up for their own amusement. This is what they do for their own entertainment, and when you think about it, it's pathetic (and a little bit creepy).

In addition, if they could write just one grammatically correct sentence, it might help their credibility. On second though...scratch that. They'd never be able to enter into a discussion with those of the opposing viewpoint without interjecting snide, snotty remarks. There's an old Chinese proverb that says, "The man who strikes first admits that his ideas have given out." They have no ideas, and therefore, they strike out with insults. It's what they do best.

Understudy said, "For kate to file a contempt of court on Jon for tweeting..."

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TMZ got that wrong. He filed on her.

ChurchMouse said...

too bad, so sad said...
"...They seem to not be able to see any alternatives to a situation,"she has to film to support her kids"..."

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Fine. She can film all she wants. Leave the kids out of it.

Oh, that's right. Without the kids, there's no reason to film.

Hippie Chick said...

Churchmouse said...
She was too busy with showing them only one symbol--the dollar sign.

LOLOL Good one!!!

Brummygirl said...

I wonder if this is Kate's favourite flower.
From Greek Mythology, from which, the word narcissistic was derived:

"Narcissus was so handsome that many women and men fell in love with him. He rejected all of them. One of his admirers was the nymph Echo, who had been cursed by Hera* to repeat only the last words spoken to her. Ameinias, another admirer, was so devastated by Narcissus's indifference toward him that he killed himself. Before doing so, however, Ameinias called on the gods to punish Narcissus. They caused the beautiful youth to gaze into a pond at his reflection. He fell in love with his own image and drowned trying to touch it. In other accounts of the story, Narcissus killed himself out of sorrow and frustration. The gods then changed him into the flower that bears his name".

Hippie Chick said...

so sick of her said...
. I will believe if she is indeed in NYC , if a pic is published. I was at the dark-side and they,(the few that remain)

Maybe they are finally seeing the true Kate for who she is. I am NOT bashing anyone. I firmly believe that everyone has a right to their own opinion (although when it comes to racism, prejudice, that kind of thing, I will staunchly DISAGREE with you), but Kate has proven over & over what a liar she is, how greedy & immoral she is, how much she uses her children for her own personal gain, etc. I don't know for sure if she is in NYC, but they JUST got back from a 3(?) week WORKING tour across the globe where they filmed the kids constantly. They get back, she drops off the kids & apparently, off she goes? Doesn't she have to get the kids ready for the upcoming school week? Grocery shop? Do some laundry? Help the kids decompose a little bit? Isn't that what a good mother does? Not hop off the plane & get in your limo (LOL, you guys know how I feel about the limo thing) & cruise into the city.

If Jon has the kids, GREAT! But it's kind of like a dump & run. Kate is basically saying "I've had enough of you 'employees' for the last few weeks, see ya. I need ME ME ME time." What message does that send the kids? I hope she explained to them that this is daddy's time, mommy needs to attend to business or something & didn't say something like; I need to get the hell away from you, but she runs ice cold. Who knows? (sorry about the long post)

ChurchMouse said...

Regarding the show, "Twist of Kate," can't you just see the TLC execs rubbing their hands with glee? They know people would pay big money to see Ms. Gosselin placed in uncomfortable situations.

Ms. Gosselin, cleaning septic tanks. Washing hair all day at a hair salon. Waiting on customers at a truck stop for an eight hour shift with only a ten minute break. Cleaning fish for an entire day at a plant in Gloucester. Cab driver.

Of course, the problem is that Ms. Gosselin won't do any of these things. She'll want a fun show, nothing taxing or icky. Heck, she can't even hack camping for ONE NIGHT. And she'll want to come off looking like Oprah.

That's probably why "Twist of Kate" is still "being tweaked." The execs want the money-making train wreck, and Ms. Gosselin wants to be Martha Stewart.

sourpatchbaby said...

Shoka's Understudy said...

Well, today is MLK day, so the kids should be out of school today. So tomorrow will be the test to see if Mady, Cara, Leah, Joel, Hannah and Aaden go to school tomorrow. I just don't believe that Jon would go along with kate homeschooling ALL the kids, if that is what she has in her plans.
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I don't see how a judge would allow her to homeschool all the kids if Jon objects to it. Heck, there are a bunch of couples where the wife homeschools and when they divorce the husband just to be an arse objects to it and the judge sends the kids to public school while the parents work out their differences. For a judge to allow her to do so over his objections would be a slap in the face to all true homeschoolers. Good God, I DON'T want people to associate homeschooling with that woman! We get a bad rep as it is and don't need her ilk pretending to educate her children and calling it homeschooling.

so sick of her said...

Ok, if this trip to NYC is true , where are the pics? It's been 2 days and no pics of Kate. I would think if she came back through LA, they had the Golden Globes Awards and the parties after, this weekend. Kate can stay a few extra days in LA to do the parties for ET then come home. Makes more sense, than NYC. Also, what if the so-call sighting was a woman who looks like Kate? Kate has a nanny that looks a lot like her. And there are a lot of young women who look like Kate(dime a dozen type). I've seen a few around where I live who could pass for Kate, hair style the same, same body built, face almost the same, and some just as nasty, unless any of us or anyone is in her face on a daily basis, we can mistake other women for her. She is not that outstanding looking to pick out of a crowd. Someone with red hair would be. JMO

Barb said...

Disgusted in TX said...I think this is a simple question worthy of discussion: what benefits does anyone find in a reality show for those who participate in it? The only benefit is financial...

For anybody who has any narcissistic tendencies at all, the primary benefit is not the money but the FAME. To be on television, to be on the covers of tabloids, to be talked about, to be recognized, to be given special treatment..that's what narcissists crave more than anything.

PA Woman said...

DWTS and SWTS are one thing, but with all the resources ET has, why in the world would they use Kate for the Golden Globes? That's giving her much to much credit.

fidosmommy said...

Doesn't she have to get the kids ready for the upcoming school week? Grocery shop? Do some laundry? Help the kids decompose a little bit? Isn't that what a good mother does?

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Sure, all good mothers let their children "decompose".

At least a little bit.

I know you meant "decompress", but
I have to admit I got a good laugh out of that. Thanks, Hippie Chick!

Be Glad to Have Peace & Quiet on our Roads Again said...

There are more lights on at the mansion, activity in the driveway. Guess the brood is home?

Why would Kate be at the golden globe's awards? Or even at the after parties?

She is not invited to those parties. She would be their biggest joke of all jokes last night.

ChurchMouse said...

Hippie Chick said...
"...Help the kids decompose a little bit?..."

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Sorry, HippieChick, and I normally don't nit-pick on the spelling of words, but your malapropism made me giggle.

I think you meant to use the word, "decompress," not "decompose".

To decompose means for organic matter to break down, and is usually used in referring to how the human body breaks down after death.

But come to think of it, after being dragged around the globe like a troupe of performing monkeys, I'm sure the kids are, "dead tired."

Maggie said...

This comment was in the queue to be moderated:

"Seems that the mods now have "favorite posters" and the rest of us are actually wasting our time. The mods want exactly one thing and that is the absolute worse about Kate's looks, damn Kate and making her appear to be the worse person in the world. Well, she is almost, she ranks up there. But to write an intelligent post for this site either "goes over the mods' heads or they have their own reason for having this blog is not being met. Is it to get better laws for children who appear in reality tv Is it to get everyone to make sure that everything about kate and her mistakes with her children are documented. Could it be that one or several of the mods personally know Kate and just hate her guts. You don't have to post this, as you would have to answer it. Apparently, other web sites are more interested in the kids.
By Anonymous on Free Discussion 1/15 - 1/21 at 1:57 PM"

Or perhaps because you don't follow the most basic instruction to put a name on your comments?

hayden said...

Ready When You Are, CB said...
At the filming in the diner, she had the old "possum doo" and the old body (before the "magic bra").

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When was that filmed, and when was that good bra first purchased?
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IIRC, The results of Kate's new "good bra" became apparent in April 2009. Those in the know have claimed Kate purchased said "good bra" in LA. Kate was spotted filming for Twist of Kate (at a diner I believe?).... in early December 2009.

Didn't Kate disappear for a bit in October? Because going by the Australia pictures it looks like she recently bought an even better good bra.

Susantoyota said...

hayden said . . . Didn't Kate disappear for a bit in October? Because going by the Australia pictures it looks like she recently bought an even better good bra.

Which is invisible under a skimpy bikini top:)

dustilies said...

Maggie said...

This comment was in the queue to be moderated:

"Seems that the mods now have "favorite posters" and the rest of us are actually wasting our time.

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Anonymous poster: this is a blog. A blog is not the same as a newspaper. It isn't even the same as a "website" (you conflate the two things when you say "other websites care more about the children). It is the creation of the mods, who wanted to make a place for folks to discuss the Gosselins' tv shows and related activities.

Maybe the mods are very selective in their comments. Maybe they aren't. (Have you seen how negative almost every comment section on gossip sites and other Gosselin blogs, btw?). But that matters not at all. Their blog, their swingset, their responsibility.

I can only guess how many it takes to sort out the spam, the ads, the phishers every single day. I truly appreciate everything the mods do to make this a fun and informative and intelligent discussion.

Am I a moderator's pet? I don't think hardly. I post pretty regularly--not everything goes through. It has never mattered enough to me to get upset about dropped posts or to ask the mods why. They have enough whackadoodles to deal with without me being that kid who sulks in class when she waves her arm frantically and is still not called on.

Thanks, Maggie, for sharing a little piece of your world.

C said...

Just a couple of snarky observations about Kate and her rabid fans:

I came across this article in The Onion. Sound like anyone we know?
http://www.theonion.com/articles/nails-hair-cared-for-better-thanchild,1387/

I was trying to figure out why the rabid fans are desperately holding onto an image of Kate that is outdated at best, and false at worst. I figured it out! Did you ever date--or, God forbid, marry--someone who was awesome at first, but then inexplicably turned into an a$$? And you stayed in the relationship for months, or even years, desperately trying to bring back the "old", wonderful person, not realizing that that was all a front? You dated for say, 10 months, only two of which were good--and you spent the other eight months trying to bring back who he/she was at first.

I think there's a similar denial with Kate's rabid fans.

Ready When You Are, CB said...

"IIRC, The results of Kate's new "good bra" became apparent in April 2009. Those in the know have claimed Kate purchased said "good bra" in LA. Kate was spotted filming for Twist of Kate (at a diner I believe?).... in early December 2009."

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Do you have the name of that store? I wonder if they have online ordering, because I want one of them, even if they don't have free shipping!!

Thanks for the info. "I'm Ready, Mr.DeMille" said, in a previous post...

"In regards to "Twist of Kate"....At the filming in the diner, she had the old "possum doo" and the old body (before the "magic bra"). It will definitely need a heck of a lot of "tweaking" to bring it up to date..."

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However, if she got the good bra in April 2009, and the diner wasn't filmed until the end of the year, then she was sporting the new "girls" when it was shot, and not the old body.
Or...am I missing something?

Bonnie Fuller, over at Hollybaby, wrote about Kate in NYC at Jersey Boys. She says the kids missed 14 days of school. Nope. If they go back tomorrow, they would have missed nine days of school (which, of course, is still too much). Don't these writers ever verify these things, or bother to check them out? Taking a look at a calendar isn't that difficult!

E-town Neighbor said...

Kimmie Sue, but call me Kim from PA said...

"In discussing names. In that part of PA and even further upstate, the ie in names is common i.e.,..
Could it be that the kids are bullies because Mommy is a bullie too? I have seen some of her actions on You Tube and TLC and her recent K8 and I think she is a bullie."

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You really like that IE at the end of a word (bullie)! Just kidding, just kidding.

I also really had to chuckle at Hippie's "decompose" remark. Thanks for the smile, Hippie! The show should be in the last stages of decomposition. We can only hope.

Snow Globe said...

"Or perhaps because you don't follow the most basic instruction to put a name on your comments?"

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LOL!! It's right above the comment box, in bold, nonetheless:

"Please select a name as anonymous comments will be rejected."

What do these posters not understand about this? Ten words. Can they read? If so, can they understand the meanings of words?

Susantoyota said...

I keep remembering a remark Kate made at the end of the final? J&K+8 episode-she was sitting on the couch with Jon beside her, but leaning away from her-where she said about the show "we had a good run" or something to that effect. Sometimes it's better to be last in the public eye, without all the attention-seeking behavior. Contrast Kate's behavior with that of Sandra Bullock and now Nicole Kidman (who welcomed a 2nd daughter almost one month ago) in their quest for motherhood. They didn't see the need to publicize all the steps on the journey and display their private lives.

Here's hoping the "run" is truly almost over and we don't have to see this narcissistic fame junkie much longer. And the kids can be kids, away from the cameras and their mother.

why said...

Why would someone do a reality show? Well, it is quick easy money. It is a good way to educate the public of a certain medical condition. It is a good way to get your name , photo, (business,product if you have one) into magazines, to get to be on talk shows, you know, meet Ellen, Oprah. It is a good was to make contacts to get into "the buisness".

so sick of her said...

Why, I said, why Kate would or should be at the GGA in LA cause she did work for ET,(was bad at it). But Kate wanting Fame, I think she probably begged them and they said no. Also, this is where most if not all paps are. The parties after. I did watch ET and Kate is a no show(YEAH!) But that does bring us back to where is she? 3 days nothing!And no pic of her in NYC? I check all the talks shows on my cable TV listings and she is not listed, anywhere. I did read at the other site, one over there said maybe she is getting ready for court. TOO quiet!

barnaby said...

I totally agree with much of what "Anonymous on Free Discussion" is trying to say, certainly regarding all the nitpicking regarding appearance. Addtionally, I would guess that maybe 1 in 4 of my contributions actually get posted. And I always use the same name. To be fair to all, I have found that these blogs do have many, many glitches.

In the end, this is not my blog. So be it. I will continue to try to post my every objection to the filming of these children whether it gets posted or not.

Maggie said...

Thanks dustilies!

Just a quick comment about posts going through, I put in at least 95% of comments when I am moderating.

Sometimes if two or more people give out a link to something, we will only put one through.

I don't think any of the moderators like to put in endless comments about Kate's appearance or just general name calling, so that is untrue. Plenty get put through, but it isn't something we enjoy.

A lot of very, very long comments show up in the spam file, and we don't go through that as much. Comments are put in automatically according to when they were written, so that comment may end up going through, but it may be way back in the thread, we can't control that.

The one thing that we really don't like is being rude or calling out another poster, so most likely that won't go through.

Dustilies is correct, this is a site to discuss the show and the Gosselins in general, if you are doing that politely there shouldn't be a problem.

Email me if you have any questions, and as always, if you feel that your comments are not being published, copy them and send them to me and I will try to help.

There is also a preview option before you publish, it is always a good idea to read your comment again before you hit publish!

Fieryfox said...

I was thinking earlier, and am curious as to why we don't have many insiders on this blog? As opposed to to the lot of insider fish on an, ah, old Gosselin "website"? Is it because the kids are so isolated now, in their home in the middle of Almost-Nowhere?

Will someone enlighten me, please?

Taylor / Firebird

Snow Globe said...

I did read at the other site, one over there said maybe she is getting ready for court. TOO quiet!

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Somebody said she's in NYC getting ready for court. Why would she need to be in New York to get ready for court? It's not held there. Why couldn't she get ready for court in her own home?

Racermom281 said...

It just saddens me that those kid's are in a bubble that Kate has put around them. Children need outside friends, no matter how many brothers & sisters they have at home. It is such a shame that they consider the crew their friends. I would put good money on the fact that anytime they get invited to a classmates birthday party, or even to come over and play that she won't allow it. Their social skills haven't been able to flourish because she refuses to let them be normal children when the camera's aren't in their face. The only one I've ever seen her show a trace of love to is Hannah. She has never tried to hide her distain for the boy's. Jon has always shown the kids love and understanding, and now she is trying to limit his time with them, so she can keep them in her bubble. Sure, they get to go some really cool places, but do they ever get to enjoy? No, because they are working. It's get the shot and then they are out of there. My heart goes out to them for the lonley life they are living.
To see her trapse all around LA & NY taking care of her needs, leaving those kid's at home with whomever is the caregiver that week eating whatever is thrown on a plate for them while she is enjoying expensive dinners out with Steve...how is that providing for the kid's? That's always her excuse for being away..."I have to work to support my family" Going on the Today show bashing their father and going out to lunch at Nobu afterwards is NOT supporting her children. Another thing that baffles me is...there are plenty of NBC affillates near her home that she could do a satelite feed, instead of leaving the kids and going to NY. But then again, why would she do that...she wouldn't get alone time with Steve.
Sorry for the rant, it just chaps my hide that she only had those kid's for fame and fortune. Nothing more. What a vile bitch.

Ampersmom said...

Racermom281 said...

Another thing that baffles me is...there are plenty of NBC affillates near her home that she could do a satelite feed, instead of leaving the kids and going to NY. But then again, why would she do that...she wouldn't get alone time with Steve.
Sorry for the rant, it just chaps my hide that she only had those kid's for fame and fortune. Nothing more. What a vile bitch.


Oh Racermom how I agree with you about the satellite feeds. How is it that the other reality shows get these feeds (Duggars for instance or even Sarah Palin) but Kate has to show up in person? Could it be only because Kate has to find any excuse to get away from her kids? Saw where on the Sheeple site that Kate deserved time away from her kids after spending the "vacation" time with them. Really??? She had so many helpers why would she need time away.

Like Racermom I to am disgusted by Kate..Kate just gives the word motherhood a bad name. One the rest of us mothers could do without.

On another note:Thanks to the moderators for giving the rest of us a voice. On another note: I am a newbie on this board so I am sure I am not a moderator pet.

Kate's Chicken said...

"To see her trapse all around LA & NY taking care of her needs, leaving those kid's at home with whomever is the caregiver that week eating whatever is thrown on a plate for them while she is enjoying expensive dinners out with Steve"

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Have you seen an example of Kate's cooking? Chicken "sammonella", chicken cacciatore? Betcha whatever the caregiver cooks is preferable to what Kate would make for them if she stayed home! We don't know what the nannies cook for them, much less if they 'throw the food on plates.' It's quite possible that they prepare food that the kids actually like, rather than what we've seen Kate serve them.

Do we really care? said...

I wonder about all the speculation about where Kate is. Do we really care?

Isn't it nice that we're not hearing about her making another mail run or getting a manicure?
Isn't it nice to think that she's maybe taking care of business at home (HA, doubt that, but anyway...)? Isn't it nice to think that maybe the tabs have been busy with real stars at the Golden Globes to bother with her?

Let's be happy to be rid of her for a few hours/days.

ChuchMouse said...

why said...
"Why would someone do a reality show?...It is a good was to make contacts to get into "the buisness"(sic)."

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It is a rotten way to get involved in the Entertainment Industry.
Show business is hard enough without giving yourself handicaps in starting out. "Reality TV" only puts you in front of a camera and behind the eight ball.

She is a cow said...

so sick of her said...
....Kate is a no show(YEAH!) But that does bring us back to where is she? 3 days nothing!And no pic of her in NYC? I check all the talks shows on my cable TV listings and she is not listed, anywhere.
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Personally, I take this as a great sign! Hopefully, people have her number and are sick of her and her "opportunities" are coming to an end! She does not deserve the attention in the first place and I love the thought that it is probably killing her that no one cares that she is back from her "trip".

Miserable Cow....time to call Chris....shes got some errands to run.

Kat said...

When I first started watching Jon & Kate plus 8 it captivated me at with their opening monologue "it's our life" and as I watched this woman mother her children I found myself feeling sorry for them. When the boys were sick she ignored them in the strangest way I have ever seen (not only from a mother but also from a nurse) I felt like I was witnessing child neglect and a form of abuse that I had no control over, I have to say when I saw the footage of the sick little boy laying on the laundry room floor like an animal it made me sick. I am PRO Jon he showed love and understanding with gentleness and kindess he seemed to do everything for his children with a wife who clearly didnt.
I read comments on here bashing Kate and her wardrobe and surgeries, but who really cares about that? It's the kids that need help and for the life of me I dont understand why she is allowed to do the things she does to them and get away with it. To JON, AUNT JODI, UNCLE KEVIN and this website hang in there and keep fighting for those kids! Someday someone will hear you.

Hippie Chick said...

fidosmommy..

It WAS 'decompress'. DUH!! I knew it wasn't the right word when I re-read it, but couldn't think of the other one...I was like...What IS that word??? Thank you!! DECOMPRESS....not decompose, that's gross. LOLOLOL

Snow Globe said...

When I first started watching Jon & Kate plus 8 it captivated me at with their opening monologue "it's our life"

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What she said was, "It's ARE life!"

"To JON, AUNT JODI, UNCLE KEVIN and this website hang in there and keep fighting for those kids! Someday someone will hear you."

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But will it be too late?

been there said...

Racermom281 said...
It just saddens me that those kid's are in a bubble that Kate has put around them. Children need outside friends, no matter how many brothers & sisters they have at home.
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That is a valid statement no matter the size of the family.
I saw the episode of the 6 painting at an art studio. The teacher asks Aaden to spell his name so she can label his canvas. Before he can answer, Hannah shouts out that he can't spell his name and Collin spells it out for the teacher. Aaden just sits there with a blank look on his face.

Separation in the class room and interacting with other kids at sports and play dates can help quieter children get a chance to be heard or a chance to lead.

Berks Has Shoes! said...

Cow said,

Miserable Cow....time to call Chris....shes got some errands to run.

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Somehow I can't see her negotiating icy roads. The Land Cruiser does great in deep snow, but on ice? Not so much!

ChurchMouse said...

Racermom281 said...
"...It just saddens me that those kid's are in a bubble...It is such a shame that they consider the crew their friends..."

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Friends? I don't think so. The crew members are instructed to film and not interfere. If a little one was holding an electric drill and trying to use it, the crew would not step in to stop it, they'd just keep filming, and to hell with the consequences.

A FRIEND would intervene.

So, no, these kids are not "friends" with the crew.

She is a Cow said...

Berks Has Shoes! said...
Cow said,

Miserable Cow....time to call Chris....shes got some errands to run.

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Somehow I can't see her negotiating icy roads. The Land Cruiser does great in deep snow, but on ice? Not
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Don't forget we are talking about Kate here....
Her brain is weighing it out...Spend the day at home with the kids on a snow day.....Escape to Target even though there is ice....Stay with the kids.....risk the ice.... Big decision for her. Although, I guess the other option is to lock herself in her bedroom while the "help" looks after the kids. Bet she is one mother who gets really pissed when there is a snow day!

Gaby said...

Have you seen an example of Kate's cooking? Chicken "sammonella", chicken cacciatore? Betcha whatever the caregiver cooks is preferable to what Kate would make for them if she stayed home! We don't know what the nannies cook for them, much less if they 'throw the food on plates.' It's quite possible that they prepare food that the kids actually like, rather than what we've seen Kate serve them.
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It would be refreshing to see food being served to the kids on something else other than those same "Prison" Trays!

Proud Grandma said...

Just watched Oprah in Australia, now she is not my favourite person, but they sure loved her and I couldn't help but think that maybe K8 was hoping that the Australians would turn out in droves to see her and her kids. Not a chance.

ChurchMouse said...

Gaby said...
"Have you seen an example of Kate's cooking? Chicken "sammonella"..."

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I believe that was the episode that TLC wanted to portray Ms. Gosselin as "Can-Do Kate," and grill outside.

I was always curious as to why no one, including Ms. Gosselin herself, didn't bother to take the time to Google "how to grill chicken." She would have found out in two seconds that one needs to parboil the chicken pieces first, to avoid having raw chicken on inside and charred flesh on the outside.
I wonder how many of the paid crew knew this and just let it be filmed, at the risk of the kids eating undercooked chicken.

Leigh Ann said...

Just watched Oprah in Australia, now she is not my favourite person, but they sure loved her and I couldn't help but think that maybe K8 was hoping that the Australians would turn out in droves to see her and her kids. Not a chance.
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There's a big difference between Oprah and Kate, too. Oprah has her detractors, but she has a career she's built with her own hard work and she's used her millions to help others. Some people might not agree with her particular projects, but it's her money and she can support whatever she believes in. What has Kate done? What she has gotten has been off the backs of her kids, it's not even her own work.

Mom In Lancaster County said...

"Bet she is one mother who gets really pissed when there is a snow day!"

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The winter storm warning for tomorrow for Berks has been downgraded to a winter weather advisory, snow, freezing rain and drizzle. It could be a two-hour school delay, but then again, for the sake of the kids, I hope it's another snow day and they can do absolutely nothing except eat cookies and drink hot chocolate!

If Kate gets pissed at a snow day, she's going to get plenty of chances for it. There's more snow coming on Friday, and again early next week! These kids just may get the down-time they need!

Mom In Lancaster County said...

She would have found out in two seconds that one needs to parboil the chicken pieces first, to avoid having raw chicken on inside and charred flesh on the outside.

Really? I have been grilling chicken since the beginning of time and I have never had raw chicken with charred flesh on the outside. I've never heard of parboiling it first because raw/charred chicken has never been an issue.

If that happens, isn't it just because the grill is too hot and the chicken wasn't cooked long enough because the griller removed it as soon as he/she saw it was getting burned?

Leigh Ann said...

I was always curious as to why no one, including Ms. Gosselin herself, didn't bother to take the time to Google "how to grill chicken." She would have found out in two seconds that one needs to parboil the chicken pieces first, to avoid having raw chicken on inside and charred flesh on the outside.
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I didn't know you were supposed to do that and have never heard of anyone doing it. My brother-in-law raises chickens and grills them all the time and so does my dad (the grilling, not the raising). I've never seen it in a cookbook, either. I wouldn't beat her up over that. If I had any undercooked chicken, I would put it in the oven or microwave for a few minutes, though.

so sick of her said...

It seems that the Sheeple, still think(that's and understatement)that Kate is still a great mother, and the kids had such an educational vacation(oops, as the judge said working trip)that they learned so much more than being in school. And Kate NEEDED a vacation/time away from being with the kids for almost 3 weeks. That Kate is just like normal working single mothers. Sure she is. What single moms or families these days can afford one vacation let alone 7-8 that Kate has been taking(her own and with the kids)who has 3 nannys, (most people can't even afford 1 babysitter), who has a cook, cleaning people, landscapers, pool people, have time to go tanning, do nails, and fly to NYC to get their hair done? and a bodyguard? Kate is an INSULT to working mothers and all working people. The Sheeple are the ones who are jealous of Kate, cause they wish they could be just like her and can't. I wonder if the sheeple pull the same crap, Kate pulled on Jon, I wonder how many of them would still be married?

Steve's getting rich too said...

First off, let me preface this by saying that I do not believe Steve could possibly attracted to the insufferable, vile Kate. No matter how much she tries to pretty up, there's still that personality to turn him off. And even though he is complicit in the exploitation of the G8, he does appear to care about them and must find her treatment/neglect of them maddening. For Kate, he is the perfect man because he is not in a position to judge her or tell her what to do because he is an employee. I believe he puts up with the circus because it is a well-paying gig. I would imagine it's rare for a bodyguard to find full-time employment that pays so well. Most bodyguards appear to free-lance and therefore must always be looking for the next job, even with their established clients. There are few people in this world who truly need a full-time bodyguard, and Kate is certainly one of them. But she has managed to get TLC to pick up the tab for his services. I doubt he could find a similar gig if he quit, especially now that his reputation as a bodyguard has suffered by being photographed so often with Kate. So I think it's a matter of cashing in while he can with her. I cannot imagine be lives at the McMansion full time. He may stay there when they're filming, and he does travel with her, even if it's to get her hair done. But he does have sons and no matter what is going on with Gina, he must go home whenever he can to see them. Steve has been photographed occasionally at the bus stop, but I think he is mostly gone unless Kate's 'working'. All of Kate's target/ kinkos/tanning excursions appear to be solo. Think about it. 20 days traveling at $1600/day. The dude made $32,000 for that. Not to mention the money he probably made by selling pictures of his charges. Too bad he had make his money by babysitting a grown woman and the kids she is incapable if tending to herself.

Tami said...

I saw Oprah in Australia, too. I'm not crazy about her, rarely watch the show, but she was the complete opposite of how Kate will be when her Australia footage airs. She was very gracious and appreciated the beauty of the country. She was friendly to the people and had everyone do a moment of silence. She had a large group with her and seemed to get along with them unlike Kate would have. She acted more like a polite tourist than a diva/stah. I can't imagine how Kate behaved if she went to some of those places. She was probably bored and rude and the kids would be bored as well because they take their vibes from their mom.

Drake said...

ChurchMouse said, "No, these kids are not "friends" with the crew."

Whenever my son had a long shoot, he did form friendships with some of the crew members, usually young men who became like older brothers to him. During downtimes they taught him magic tricks and card games, listened to him talk about his favorite videogames etc., and -- as he got into the teen years -- gave him advice about things like choosing a college and asking girls out. And he was just as enriched by these relationships as if he'd met his 'big brothers' under different circumstances.

The problem with the Gosselins, though, is that the connections they're making with crew members are probably substitutions rather than enrichments. That is, the crew members are stand-ins for relationships that don't exist off-set -- with parents, friends, aunts, uncles, etc. And because crew members are undoubtedly filling significant holes in the Gosselin kids' lives, I have no doubt those kids went through significant pain when shooting stopped the first time around and will experience it again when Kate's current show is cancelled (as it inevitably must be someday).

The most difficult part of my son's experiences as a child actor was dealing with the emotions that come with saying goodbye to people you've become attached to. But he had a supportive family and plenty of friends at school to see him through this, whereas when the Gosselins say goodbye to the crew, who will they be able to turn to on a daily basis?

pinkdiamond611 said...

I believe that Steve and Gina know EXACTLY what they are doing. . .Kart relies on them exclusively. The Kart might be lazy, but Purseboy is getting rich keeping company with her. Gina and kids are living a nice lifestyle I presume down in Maryland. I think that Kart is ignorant enough to place her trust in Steve to run things, because she is incapable of doing it on her own. Even Jon was going to have Steve as the guardian of the kids. . . . in the end, Jon, Kart and the kids will be penniless, but Purseboy and Gina will be living the good life based on the $$$$$ Kart has paid him all of these years. So ironic, because she didn't want Jodie and her bro to make a dime off the kids, but a complete stranger is making mega bucks. . . .

Crate Kate said...

I have often wondered about Kate's cooking. She was touted as being a great cook, but all the examples of her cooking on the show were less than stellar. I rarely saw her make and actual whole meal, even at dinner time. She made a huge issue out of having to cook dinner, but I don't really recall seeing much actual cooked food. Once she got something out of the crock pot, but I could not tell what it was.

Plus she contradicted herself a lot. Real cooks don't need recipes she said, but she was often shown using recipes for pancakes, Muddy Buddies (I refuse to call it monkey munch) and several other things.

Then came all the ridiculous claims of inventing the 4th of July flag cake and the sandwiches and a few other dishes I can't recall at the moment. She did make hummus and a tomato and onion salad one show for lunch, but who doesn't make that stuff. It isn't rocket science to make a tomato and onion salad.

As for the chicken on a grill, yes you need to boil the chicken first. My husband worked for a catering company that did BBQ's and first rule of thumb was always to par boil the chicken and the ribs prior to putting them on the grill. Doing so makes sure there is no raw meat and it cooks faster as well. I thought this was common knowledge.

Bottom line is Kate's who super mom persona was a lie. I won't even go into the whole organic thing.

Oprah Down Under said...

Tami said,

She had a large group with her and seemed to get along with them unlike Kate would have. She acted more like a polite tourist than a diva/stah.

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It's a show, Tami. Any television personality with just a sliver of class in his/her little finger would behave politely and graciously. She knows better. Of course, that elimiates Kate.
They'd never show Oprah misbehaving (not that she would).

dustilies said...

She is a cow wrote:

Don't forget we are talking about Kate here....
Her brain is weighing it out...Spend the day at home with the kids on a snow day.....Escape to Target even though there is ice....Stay with the kids.....risk the ice.... Big decision for her. Bet she is one mother who gets really pissed when there is a snow day!

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Have to admit I had some moments like this over the last week. Here in our part of GA, we got five inches of snow and a layer of ice. School was out for the entire week, and so was the college my DH and I teach at. I think I get more excited about snow days than my kids do. But if you count the weekend before, the five snowdays, and the long MLK weekend, that was 10 days all together in our little house. Roads were unplowed and truly dangerous, even for us transplanted New Englanders, so it was Thursday before we got out for a long walk or a drive. Ice/ Target? Ice/Target? Scream/Drink? Cry/Rock in the corner?

And, ye gods and little fishes, I didn't have even a manicure in all that time!

Seriously, after several days cooped up at the compound with Kate, Steve might take pity on the kids and whisk them off to Jon's place.

SuzieQ said...

I used to laugh so hard when TMZ referred to Katie Irene's hair as a "chuck striped bi-level porcupine reverse mullet weave."

LOL

Leigh Ann said...

She was very gracious and appreciated the beauty of the country. She was friendly to the people and had everyone do a moment of silence. She had a large group with her and seemed to get along with them unlike Kate would have.
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And that's why Oprah has her own network and a huge following of normal people (and plenty of weirdos, too, I'm sure) and even has a for-real best friend while Kate has to pay people to hang around her. There's a lesson to be learned here.

Leigh Ann said...

As for the chicken on a grill, yes you need to boil the chicken first. ... I thought this was common knowledge.
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Evidently not. I just looked at 15 websites (the first 15 Yahoo came up with, including Good Housekeeping and Betty Crocker) and only one mentioned it and it recommended against it. So if Kate had looked up "how to grill chicken" on the internet before starting she wouldn't have found have found it that easily. And a cooking disaster isn't the worst a person can do. I've had stuff not cook all the way through and have to put it back in. I think we can allow Kate a few legitimate screw-ups. Now I'm getting a craving for grilled chicken. Yum.

Tami said...

It's a show, Tami. Any television personality with just a sliver of class in his/her little finger would behave politely and graciously. She knows better. Of course, that elimiates Kate.
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And that's my point. It's hilarious how she thinks she is so above everyone. She would have the momuments closed down for everyone but her family if she could. And now Oprah swoops in and steals her thunder by showing ALL the big tourist sites with a big dose of appreciation for them, so Kate can show everyone a month later how she misbehaves at the same places. ha.

Chick fil-A-No-Boil said...

"As for the chicken on a grill, yes you need to boil the chicken first. My husband worked for a catering company that did BBQ's and first rule of thumb was always to par boil the chicken and the ribs prior to putting them on the grill. Doing so makes sure there is no raw meat and it cooks faster as well. I thought this was common knowledge."

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Not common in my neck of the woods. I never heard of doing that. We've never had undercooked chicken, nor char-burned on the outside, and there's no problem in cooking time. In all of these years, nobody has ever asked for my chicken sammonella recipe! Doesn't boiling it first make it tough? If I had to boil it first, I know I wouldn't grill chicken as often as I do!

Do you do the same thing with boneless barbecued pork loins?

Tami said...

I don't boil chicken first. It still cooks. When you think about it, hamburgers cook also and you don't have to pre-boil them. I don't like boiled chicken. I think it would be rubbery and if I was worried it wouldn't cook I'd probably zap it in the microwave for a minute first just to get a little of the rawness off. Still, I believe she has never grilled before and to serve it raw was gross. Most would check it first before taking it all off the grill.

Living it up in Alaska said...

Oh my pinkdiamonds, you made a statement that struck a chord with me. It was profound statement about Purseboy and making money...assuming that Jodi and Kevin's claims that Kate stated that no one was to make money off of her kids but her are true...how stupid is she not to see that Steve and Chris are making thousands (possibly millions) off of her and the kids. Everytime Chris meets them bright and early at the bus stop, he makes money. He doesn't love the kids, play with them, share any kind of bond...yet he makes money off of them. Jodi, who loved them, played with them and had a bond, is no longer allowed to be with them because TLC offered to compensate her for being on the show and Kate wouldn't allow it. How messed up is that? She is cutting off her nose to spite her face!

Finally, some of the truth is coming out. said...

The court documents have been revealed on Examiner.com....custody documents. John seems to be the plaintiff in most of the appearances, requesting the custody. She appears in most cases as the defendant and wants the documents sealed.

These documents were in the Berks Cty Courthouse for the public to make copies of. Never have they been sealed. They may never get sealed as the Judge is not ordering them to be sealed, apparently he doesn't think Kate is a Star.

Amazing how often Jon has been trying to obtain full custody and she doesn't exactly fight it. Her attys do make appearances.

No wonder she hates Jon's guts, he is trying to get the kids from her, stop the show and stop all of this foolishness. This last trip may have been the straw that broke the camels' back. He is very adamant about gaining custody.

As for Steve, who knows who pays him? I believe, in my heart, that a bodyguard does not sit with the family like a family member, hold the children like an Uncle/Father nor sit and stand with Kate as though he is her companion. Unless of course he is. Why would he be eating in a restaurant with the family when he is suppose to be the Body guard which means stay with the car after you make sure the family is safely in the restaurant. He lives with them. So, it is all strange, but he is making money from those children also. He probably just doesn't care when she does as long as he gets paid.

So, finally we are seeing documents. How exciting for Jon to be proven to be truthful. He wants his kids back.

Kate is a few sandwichs short of a picnic, truly she is. She is immersed in her appearance, believing that filming and traveling make for an intellectual being,not so. Class less is a class less does and that would be Kate.

Anonymous said...

I never heard of boiling chicken before you grill it. I thought you seared it on both sides and then brought the heat down and let it cook. I always check on mine when I start to smell chicken cooking, the same with everything I cook. Stick a fork in it and if it goes in smoothly, it is done. Also any meat with a bone will pull away from the bone when it is done. She was just in a hurry to get the chicken in front of the cameras, as always, with no regard for how it turned out. No wonder her cook book bombed. The only thing she knows how to do is make sandwiches - lots and lots of them.

Crate Kate said...

Par boiling one's chicken prior to grilling it is just one way of doing it. You don't have to par boil it first, but it takes longer to cook on the grill if you don't. It doesn't not make it rubbery at all. On the contrary, it comes off the grill very moist and tender.

The method they used was to par boil the meat, chicken and ribs, the day before the event. Once par boiled, it would go into the BBQ and marinate in the fridge overnight. Then at the event, it was easy to grill the meat in a timely manner and it was always nice and tender. Since they often had 100's of people at their events, there would not have been time to cook all the meat if it were raw. We have adopted this practice at home as well as it makes it very easy to just pull out a container of chicken and grill it up. People are certainly free to grill their raw chicken if they so choose.

My whole point was that Kate was touted as being such a great cook, yet she couldn't handle the simple task of grilling chicken. I personally have been served half raw chicken and other meats made on a grill way too many times for my liking, so I prefer the par boiling method. A great cook would not serve chicken that was half raw no matter what method of grilling they choose.

Tucker's Mom said...

Regarding the salmonella chicken-all you need is an instant-read thermometer to check the internal temp to avoid food-borne illness. But then again, Kate knows how to make good TV. Why make it so easy? There has to be a dilemma for can-do Kate to overcome.
*Cue the carnival barker* "Stay tuned folks! Will there be a Gosselin vomit fest?" "Can Kate feed her children without killing them?"
How boring is grilling chicken? Throw in Kate's hysterics and viola! that's good TV viewing.
Don't be fooled. She plays everyone like a violin. The antics, the shrieking, the barely-there wardrobe- it's all grist for the mill.
Personally, I think her cooking skills are passable, although the whole "cookbook" was laughable. Her meatloaf-ish recipe had nebulous-ish at best directions with approximate-ish ingredient amounts. Seriously, look it up ;-)

barnaby said...

Since the topic keeps coming up - parboiling isn't the same as boiling. Never done it with chicken, but always parboil our bratwurst before grilling. That way, you can grill the bratwurst quickly, before the skin bursts, yet know the pork sausage is completely cooked.

But from what we've seen, no technique would make Khart an interesting or sophisticated cook. It's much easier to throw grapes on a paper plate.

Tami said...

Now I'm getting a craving for grilled chicken. Yum.
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The easiest way for me to do that is just drag out the George Foreman grill and butterfly slice the chicken so it's not thick. Since Kate is no longer in the Australian summer, maybe she can go back to cooking family dinners in her kitchen..oh nevermind. She never did that to begin with! Do you suppose her cook and other help still get paid while she's on vacations?

steam it said...

Steaming the meat before the grill has always worked for me.

Jodi and Kevin were there helping long before tlc and the money rolled in. That shows that they truly cared for the children.

Take the people who interact with the children daily minus the people who are paid to be there or are part of the show?
Who is left?

whipped topping said...

Crate Kate said...
I have often wondered about Kate's cooking. She was touted as being a great cook, but all the examples of her cooking on the show were less than stellar
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Chances are she's a good cook. However, for the purposes of the show and her brand as super mom, she would have to be painted as a super cook. This way the brand could extended into cook books, maybe cooking show, cookware, baking ware etc (think Martha Stewart for families)
As for the 4th of July cake, that might have been the idea of the producers, do something all american, and she had to do what they tell her to do. That design has been around for decades and Im sure she knows she didnt invent it but at the same time they cannot endorse or adverstise a product unless they are getting paid to do so. I dont think she would ever feed her kids undercooked meat on purpose. Again if it were for the show, it was all staged for the camera. Chances are everything was set up for her, multiple takes, etc.

winsomeone said...

I bet Katie is off getting her navel fixed. Seems like she finds ways to delay court hearings, or makes it so just her lawyer attends sometimes.

ROL's comment section must have crashed, as flotsam from there is showing up all over the place.

so sick of her said...

Ok, Sheeple think, that Kate should replace Regis. I really don't care if she does or not cause I have only watch Regis & Kelly once, years ago. I really can't stand guys like Regis, not sure why, but I don't. That show is not that popular to begin with. With all the negative stuff about Kate and the ET interview stuff she did, I don't think they will have Kate on there. Also, I see they are trying to make a big deal out of the contempt stuff, cause there has not been any new news or pics of Kate. Nice isn't it? Now having said that she will be in the news tommorrow. LOLOLOL

ChurchMouse said...

Chick fil-A-No-Boil said...
"...Doesn't boiling it first make it tough? If I had to boil it first, I know I wouldn't grill chicken as often as I do!
Do you do the same thing with boneless barbecued pork loins?"

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If one has the time to cook, "low and slow," then you needn't worry about parboiling first.

Parboiling is used when you are quickly grilling and have meat with bones, like chicken legs or ribs. You wouldn't need to parboil anything that's boneless.

If in doubt, you can always use a meat thermometer to check that the inside is done.

K8STFU said...

While we are on the subject of Katie Irene's "cooking", all I can think about is when she gave her "advice" to Judith Evans , a nutrionist for a St Louis newspaper.

K8's recipes were much like her flag cake recipe - nothing original and have been around for decades. But she did offer the gem of cutting a sandwich on the diagonal, LOL

I wouldn't be surprised if K8 is a decent cook but a decent cook does not a cookbook author make, and we certainly did not witness her expertise on the show.

Barb said...

I have a possible explanation for Kate's staying out of the public eye. It's being reported that Jon filed a motion seeking to have her declared in contempt of court and the hearing is imminent. This is a serious charge and if I were her attorney, I would advise her to stay under the radar - no talk show interviews, no photo ops for the paps and so on.

19 layers said...

A little FYI re Chris. He does not make "millions" from her. They both call him to tell them where they are. He is not sleeping with her. He is not friends with Steve. He regards this as an assignment, nothing more.

Docket not documents said...

Finally, some of the truth is coming out. said...
The court documents have been revealed on Examiner.com....custody documents. John seems to be the plaintiff in most of the appearances, requesting the custody. She appears in most cases as the defendant and wants the documents sealed.

These documents were in the Berks Cty Courthouse for the public to make copies of. Never have they been sealed. They may never get sealed as the Judge is not ordering them to be sealed, apparently he doesn't think Kate is a Star.
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The only "documents" that you're talking about are the court docket. They do not give any details on the complaint nor give the results of the motions. All you can tell from them is the name of the petitioner and the formal name of the motion.

Dockets have never been sealed - they're a matter of public record and can be had for the asking and applicable fee. The actual "documents" or case files involved ARE sealed. ALL Family Court case files are sealed in PA.

You cannot tell that Jon is asking for custody from the docket or if Kate is. You can't even tell exactly what is meant by the term "contempt of custody" because you can't see the actual motion that was presented to the court. It could mean anything from repeated visitation schedule violation, inadequate communication, leaking case info, etc, etc, etc.

Please don't assume anything from what you've seen on the docket and make more out of it than is there. Take it for what it is - a list of the motions or complaints to the court - nothing more and nothing less. There are no results on it, no details of the motions, nothing really other than the dates and names of who filed a motion and the name of it.

A week without Kate is a good week said...

Barb said...
I have a possible explanation for Kate's staying out of the public eye. It's being reported that Jon filed a motion seeking to have her declared in contempt of court and the hearing is imminent.

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The motion Jon filed is asking the court to find for Kate to be found in Contempt of Custody (and Kate has also counter-filed) which is not exactly the same as contempt of court. It basically means that they're saying one person (repeatedly or blatantly) violated the court's rulings. In other words, maybe Jon wasn't regularly allowed to have the kids as specified in the visitation schedule or as it's rumored, Kate may be saying that Jon violated a 'gag' order to not talk about the custody case details.

I agree though that her lawyers may have indeed told her to lay low until after the hearing OR she's disappeared before an announcement and I wonder if one is coming. It's been awfully nice not having her face everywhere though.

This week of no press proves that Kate can have privacy if she wants to.

Racermom281 said...

About her being MIA, she is too arrogant to heed advice from anybody. It would not matter to her if the Lawyer's told her to stay out of the public eye, in her mind she is very important and think's people want to see pics of her out and about. I agree with the poster who said she is most likely getting that pouch on her stomach taken care of. Those pics were very unflattering, and thats at least twice now that shots of her not sucking it in have been published...and the comments I read on other sites were not nice. So, with her being so vain about her look's, I'd guess that if the report's are true about her being in NY, she didn't just take in a showing of Jersey Boys. She is probably holed up in a fany Hotel room recouping from some more plasitc surgery. We'll see the next time there are pics of her getting off a chair in her bikini.

In Jon's corner said...

What really gets to me is her and steve sitting across a table from each other at a restaurant with the kids like a family. He is a bodyguard, not the male member of that family. she should be sitting there with her kids. Mom and kids having dinner, not bodyguard included. He should be at another table observing, watching, protecting.

B.S. is what she is full of and so is he. If I was Jon and Steve put his hands on my kids, holding my dgtrs; I would flatten him, or get hurt trying.

Can't See Sheep said...

whipped topping said...
Chances are she's a good cook. However, for the purposes of the show and her brand as super mom, she would have to be painted as a super cook. This way the brand could extended into cook books, maybe cooking show, cookware, baking ware etc
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OMG, could you imagine k8 hosting a cooking show, all the ...ums & ...ahs would drive the viewers around the bend & then when she had a guest chef it'd only be a male one that she would slap & flirt with. Just her & the camera, she'd love it. Her vile personality would be on full display, every show would be a new lie that would be contradicted in the next show. What a mess.

I don't think cooking or talk show hosts have anything to worry about from k8. I think the only ones that'll even have to worry about her are her kids & her ex, because she'll make no end of trouble for them.

It's too bad, she could have gotten into the rural foods of PA, Mennonite ladies have some awesome recipes & all the fresh lovely produce. They kept setting her up nicely & k8 kept nuking her chances. That has got to be annoying to repeatedly put someone in a position for success & watch them so stupidly squander opportunity after opportunity.

ChurchMouse said...

Can't See Sheep said...
"...They kept setting her up nicely & k8 kept nuking her chances. That has got to be annoying to repeatedly put someone in a position for success & watch them so stupidly squander opportunity after opportunity."

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Nicely said.

KatesDirtyFlintstoneFeet said...

19 layers said...
A little FYI re Chris. He does not make "millions" from her. They both call him to tell them where they are. He is not sleeping with her. He is not friends with Steve. He regards this as an assignment, nothing more._
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Um, When Chris is called to photograph Kate, he gets PAID for the pictures.
Who said he was sleeping with her??
Who said he's friends with Steve???
Who said he makes "millions"?

Not me

She is a Cow said...

A week without Kate is a good week said...
Barb

This week of no press proves that Kate can have privacy if she wants to.

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So True! It just proves that all the ridiculous pictures of her running errands are manufactured by her. No one cares about her comings and goings. I think it is ridiculous that the tabs even publish them....Kate pushing a Kart, Kate with a fresh orange look, Kate with a new set of Klaws, Kate picks up a box, Kate fixes her fake hair....who cares!

Barb said...

'The motion Jon filed is asking the court to find for Kate to be found in Contempt of Custody (and Kate has also counter-filed) which is not exactly the same as contempt of court'.

As a Canadian, I am not familiar with American legal terminology; here is would be called Contempt of Court with respect to a Custody Order. Basically, the Court made a ruling regarding custody, which one of the parties decided to disregard. Judges do not like having their rulings ignored, and Kate would be wise to lay low unti, after the hearing.

NoUse4Kate said...

19 layers said...
A little FYI re Chris. He does not make "millions" from her. They both call him to tell them where they are. He is not sleeping with her. He is not friends with Steve. He regards this as an assignment, nothing more.


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I've never read that anywhere. What I do think of Chris is that he is a pathetic loser that is in on exploiting children. Never thought he made millions for a k8 photo, that is laughable. No one would pay millions for k8 other than TLC.

Each time he sells a photo with the children included in it, he is making money off of their backs. He is just as rotten as k8, steve, anyone involved in this train wreck. He's a man whore. He will do anything for a buck and doesn't care that what he is doing affects those innocent children.

Can't See Sheep said...

In Jon's corner said...
What really gets to me is her and steve sitting across a table from each other at a restaurant with the kids like a family. He is a bodyguard, not the male member of that family. she should be sitting there with her kids. Mom and kids having dinner, not bodyguard included.



I agree completely, steve has no business being there like that. If he were a real bodyguard he wouldn't be sitting & chowing down with his charges. If he & k8 were decent adults he wouldn't be there either, he'd would have been gone when Jon first had suspicions about him. I'm wondering if it's being done on purpose, in part to try & drive Jon to say/ or do something by having Steve sit there like he's the new dad. You know speak out so she can haul his butt to court for something else, or just to make him feel bad if he happens to see the pics.

Drake said...

Can't See Sheep said, "They kept setting her up nicely & k8 kept nuking her chances. That has got to be annoying to repeatedly put someone in a position for success & watch them so stupidly squander opportunity after opportunity."

To take advantage of an opportunity, you have to see it as an opportunity, which means you have to consider how certain actions and consequences might impact your future. But Kate doesn't seem able to think beyond the moment. Each thing put in front of her is viewed only in terms of how it benefits her today, which is why she so easily abandons any activity that's hard, boring, tiring etc. regardless of the promise it might hold for her future.

This is also why she spends money like there's no tomorrow and exploits her kids without considering how it might affect them later. Kate is all about immediate gratification, not long-term success.

Berks Cty Employee said...

All of the Docket #s listed on Examiner.com are correct. Listed in the Berks County courthouse. Open to the public, nothing has been sealed, it is all there. Been trascribed.

anotherchestercountymom said...

I only know this because I wanted to look up a custody thing regarding my ex's new wife (no I'm not a stalker I had a good reason) and they do have the dockets in Berks Co but it's a crazy fee to see them. I guess the attorneys that generally use them can afford access but I couldn't.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Updated titles for "K+:
"Horrible Woman, Unhappy Kids"
"My Strange Addiction - $ and Attention"
"Our Mother Stole Our Childhood"
"We Never Wanted a Mansion"
"Would Someone Please Explain to our Mom the Difference Between a Mansion and a HOME?"
Our Mom's Worst Nightmare: Our Teen and Adult Years. Times Eight"
"Who The H is "Uncle Steve"???
"Why Does Our Mommy Now Look Like a Cheap Barbie Doll?"
"Alaska? Seriously? What Was Our Mom Thinking?????"
"Every Trip is the Same"
"Let's Play a Game: Name Any Filming Location Where Our Mom Was Actually Happy"
"Exploited and Expelled: Read This Writing on The Wall"

The Girl is Gone!! said...

Going to go out on a limb and say WHO CARES WHERE THE OLD WITCH IS as long as she's off my TV I'm a happy girl!! It's good to see people are wising up. Now lets all do the same and find something better to do with ourselves!

Suzy Snowflake said...

"This week of no press proves that Kate can have privacy if she wants to."

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Or maybe it just shows that doesn't like to drive in the ice and snow!

E-town Neighbor said...

Sheep said, "It's too bad, she could have gotten into the rural foods of PA, Mennonite ladies have some awesome recipes & all the fresh lovely produce."

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Yes, and I just made a big pot of Schnitz und Knepp tonight. I would have shared with her, but it's not organic (or chicken sammonella), so she probably would have declined the invitation!

dustilies said...

Great List, Buckeye!

Here are a few other ideas:

"Matchy Matchy: It never Stops"

"Take My Mom . . . please?"

"Another Boat Ride: This Time Our Aim Will Be Better'

"Kate's World: These Kids . . . They Act Like Freakin' Children All Day Long"

"If I get Frosting on my Shirt, Will I Really be in the Timeout Corner Until My Next Birthday Rolls Around?"

Stewed Ta-Ta's said...

"OMG, could you imagine k8 hosting a cooking show, all the ...ums & ...ahs would drive the viewers around the bend & then when she had a guest chef it'd only be a male one that she would slap & flirt with."

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I think they'd be worried about her "girls" getting into the stew, or catching on fire when she leaned over the stove!

Brummygirl said...

Ohio Buckeye said...
Updated titles for "K+:
"Horrible Woman, Unhappy Kids"
"My Strange Addiction - $ and Attention"
"Our Mother Stole Our Childhood"
"We Never Wanted a Mansion"
"Would Someone Please Explain to our Mom the Difference Between a Mansion and a HOME?"
Our Mom's Worst Nightmare: Our Teen and Adult Years. Times Eight"
"Who The H is "Uncle Steve"???
"Why Does Our Mommy Now Look Like a Cheap Barbie Doll?"
"Alaska? Seriously? What Was Our Mom Thinking?????"
"Every Trip is the Same"
"Let's Play a Game: Name Any Filming Location Where Our Mom Was Actually Happy"
"Exploited and Expelled: Read This Writing on The Wall"
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"We hugged Mommy's legs and it went to her chest".

Let's play the game, "Find the spoon and burn it!"

We had no Choice, we have no Voice!!

"My face hurts from smiling"

"Off Limits"....Mommy's bedroom

"How to go in and out of a cinema and not watch the movie".

"Throw Up and be Damned"!!!

Coming to a theatre near you:
"The Ultimate Grifter!"

Pattypanda said...

Maybe know one is willing to pay for any photos this week. It's been almost 3 weeks since her last nail appointment, sure more than over due for a fill. Maybe she snuck out somewhere in NYC. I'm sure she needed to get her rats nest maintained for her staring performance in court tomorrow. Notice she did have in longer extensions last week. Must have been the rat Steve was holding. I totally agree, a body guard would not be sitting at a family dinner table, he should be close by, not even eating dinner if he's supposedly on duty. He should be eating on his own time. It is inappropriate for male body guard to be handling and carrying young girls. I've never noticed Mady and Cara close by him. Smart little girls they are. Good luck to Jon tomorrow.

Tami said...

I think they'd be worried about her "girls" getting into the stew, or catching on fire when she leaned over the stove!
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Ah yes. Like in Mrs. Doubtfire. She put them out with pot lids..

Racermom281 said...

Rumorfix.com is reporting that Jon has quit his job with Global Green Property Services. The reason given was it was too much travel, and he wanted to be around for his kid's.

Tami said...

Each time he sells a photo with the children included in it, he is making money off of their backs. He is just as rotten as k8, steve, anyone involved in this train wreck. He's a man whore. He will do anything for a buck and doesn't care that what he is doing affects those innocent children.
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I agree, and count people like those responsible for bringing her on the View and supporting her when they talk about her latest exploits. And count Merideth and those on the Today show who allow her to come on with her sob stories and lies just to get a few ratings (which I do not believe happens, because the viewers of those shows will watch daily, not just look to see who is coming on the next day and tune in just for that). There are so many people involved in keeping her ugly face out there to keep using her kids.

so sick of her said...

It also shows that nobody cares about Kate. She is not news worthy or important. Yeah, Kate, did you not complain that the paps are always around and bother you, geez, none to meet you at the airport and none if you were in NYC to meet you. TOO BAD! I also notice that a lot of the recent articles going back to Aussie trip, that not too many people are commenting anymore. Perhaps we and the other site have made a dent, or enlighten the public about Kate. And this news of Jon quitting his job(if true), I think the sheeple had something to do with it(like finding out where he works and bothering them etc). These people really hate Jon, and would probably like to see him dead or ruined to the point he becomes homeless and disappears out of Kate and the kids lives. They are way too happy. I hope Jon gets another job. This does not look good for Jon, court wise.

The Bodyguard said...

Okay - I just have to finally say this re: Kate and her bodyguard. I don't care for Kate Gosselin because of the way she treats her children. And this goes all the way back to the beginning of her first show. She is a narcissist and horribly demeaning toward her 8 children. I have been very vocal about my concern for the 8 Gosselin children, have written sponsors of the show and legislators in PA.

But it's difficult for me to understand why so many women immediately jump on the idea that she is having an affair with her bodyguard. He is hired to be with her and her family, has dinner with her and spends time managing her since she has shown repeatedly on camera that she is high maintenance.

I have been married for many years and have 3 healthy kids who are grown and in good professions. Going back to the beginning of my marriage, when I was 25, I often had lunches and dinners with men because I was working with them or they were my clients. I also travelled with male colleagues for work. After a long day of work, I did not go upstairs to my hotel room and eat room service to somehow prove my loyalty to my husband. I met with my co-workers for dinner, laughed, drank wine and had fun. Why not? The next day we were back working hard.

And not once did I, or did I want to, have an affair with any of them. To this day some of my former male colleagues are good friends.

My husband is in a profession that is, for whatever reason, unrealistically desirable to women. I could have spent every minute of every waking day being worried- not so much about him but because of who worked with him. What a waste of time.

Trust in a marriage and especially, not prying to try to "find something", is key. Let it go.

This is 2011. We have evolved. Women have joined the ranks of men in many professions in great numbers. Sure, there are sadly desperate men and women who try to validate themselves by seducing others. There are certainly women I know who only know how to relate to men sexually. And the same goes for men. But there are lots and lots of women and men who aren't desperate.

Maybe it will turn out that Kate is having a raging affair with her bodyguard. So be it. But right now, all I read about is speculation. If Steve shouldn't have dinner with the Gosselin family does that mean he should sit at a table by himself in view of the Gosselins?

In the meantime, I think women owe other women the benefit of the doubt and maybe this is one area of Kate criticism that ends up criticizing a lot of women who work and have friendships with men.

Even if Kate Gosselin and her bodyguard reveal a relationship, I still stand by what I say in terms of trust.

Personally, I find the fact that every single photo of the Gosselin children, no matter if they are in Alaska, Australia or their own driveway shows a group of miserable, unhappy children.

Brummygirl said...

Racermom281 said...
Rumorfix.com is reporting that Jon has quit his job with Global Green Property Services. The reason given was it was too much travel, and he wanted to be around for his kid's.
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IF that is true (which I won't bet the bank on) it would be terrible timing with a court case coming up.
Let us hope this is just another round of gossip put out to discredit him. Anyone for Lamb???

Drake said...

The Bodyguard said, "If Steve shouldn't have dinner with the Gosselin family does that mean he should sit at a table by himself in view of the Gosselins?"

Yes, it's typical for the bodyguard to sit elsewhere, eating alone so he can do his job: scanning the room to make sure no one is about to approach the people he's protecting.

Perhaps you don't do this (from the screen name you chose, I'm assuming you're a bodyguard), but many who employ bodyguards consider it mandatory.

Drake said...

Bodyguard, I just noticed that you provided biographical info in the post I quoted from, and it suggests you're not actually a bodyguard yourself. Sorry for assuming your screen name was chosen to indicate your profession!

(And as an aside, I wish people would pick one screen name and stick with it, rather than changing it to suit the post. Otherwise it can make it hard to figure out who's who.)

old fashioned, not old said...

RE: Kate and Steve..this is not about a married woman on a business trip, nor even about a married woman at all. It is certainly not proper for him to be going on vacations to Mexico with her and to every activity she goes on, even in the middle of a glacier. That is not doing a job. That is not business. Business does not include many of the things he does with her on a regular basis. People have a right to speculate. I don't see it as a business lunch here and there at all. Still, it might not be a popular opinion, but I would not see a woman on a business trip going to dinner alone with a male coworker and drinking wine as exactly proper either. I could see going with a larger group or grabbing fast food or whatever. But think a spouse would have a right to complain if any business relationship got too intimate.

Monster Mommy said...

Well unless our male co-workers are allegedly living in our basement.. The scenario does not apply.

Ollie said...

The Bodyguard said, "If Steve shouldn't have dinner with the Gosselin family does that mean he should sit at a table by himself in view of the Gosselins?"

I think the mistake we are all making is accepting that Steve is or ever was a body guard. He is NOT!!!
If Steve were a true bodyguard, for sure sh should not be sitting, having dinner with the family.
How is he supposed to respond to a threat while sitting with a fork in his mouth??
A bodyguard would be standing, watching the door and other patrons in the restaurant. He should not be thinking about food.
In the real world there would be more than one body guard and they would eat and sleep in shifts.
It is possible that there was another bodyguard was in the restaurant doing the watching but even if there were two there is no way they can adequately protect nine people. Bodyguard 101 says hands free at all times. You cannot respond to a threat to your protectee if you are carrying a purse.
Nine people, one or two bodyguards just does not work.
I think Steve is as some said a handler. Nothing wrong with that but call it what it is. I think he term bodyguard started because it inflated kates ego.
There are too many instances that we have seen of how Steve behaves with Kate and the 8 that just scream "not a bodyguard."

Ohio Buckeye said...

@BrummyGirl: LOL! Love your titles!

Let's hope no further titles will be needed - Let's hope TLC finally retires this lame horse. PERMANENTLY. Put her out to pasture on her own "mine, all mine!" acreage at the mansion.

mama san said...

My comment is self explanatory - an email to John Timpane re: his Sideshow piece.
"Good morning,
Read your column today, 1/20/11, in the Inky. Kate Gosselin does not work her fingers to the bone. Watch any episode and it is apparent that it is the sextuplets and the twins. Give Jon a break." Timpane manages to be snarky when it comes to Jon.

Snow Globe said...

"You cannot respond to a threat to your protectee if you are carrying a purse."

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Depends what is in the purse! If it's loaded with her makeup (or rocks), he could use it as a weapon instead of a gun!

so sick of her said...

Well, Kate has come out of the cave. Doing her shopping, tanning, Target, Dicks sports?, drycleaners, and showing her girls, it is in the 30's out and she has on a sweater, jeans and boots. What no jacket? And too happy. She is up to something or knows something is gonna happen. I don't know about you guys, but 30 is cold out. The only ones I see who dress like that are teens and twenty yr olds. They run around with no jacket and shorts. Oh, yeah, in the pics at ROL, she is doing the oh, is that a paps, taking my pic. She is laughable. Who ever said the first pic will be tanning, you won the Jon award.

Racermom281 said...

UGH, she's back...INF daily has a new round of pics of her coming out of Target.

chesterctymom said...

19 layers said...
A little FYI re Chris. He does not make "millions" from her. They both call him to tell them where they are. He is not sleeping with her. He is not friends with Steve. He regards this as an assignment, nothing more.

Lets add him to the list, along with Gina Neild, of those adults earing big bucks at the expense of the Gosselin kids. $hame $hame $hame.

know docket from document said...

Docket, not a document....

Kate's atty is trying to get documents sealed.Fact.

docket#s are listed and the plaintiff's name.

went to the berk's courthouse as well as montgomery county courthouse and guess what?

The documents attached to the docket#s are there to read.........not sealed.

Someone made a mistake? Not me.

So Kate's atty is trying to get them sealed and guess what, it hasn't happened yet.

Can't See Sheep said...

Ollie said...
The Bodyguard said, "If Steve shouldn't have dinner with the Gosselin family does that mean he should sit at a table by himself in view of the Gosselins?"

I think the mistake we are all making is accepting that Steve is or ever was a body guard. He is NOT!!!
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Actually my comment wasn't making that mistake. It's k8 who continues to call Steve her bodyguard & as long as katie dearest continues to publicly make that claim I will continue to point out his place is NOT to be sitting having dinner with the family or any of the number of non-bodyguard things we've seen him do. Maybe k8 thinks he's a super Jackie Chan sort of bodyguard who would fling the fork he was eating with & impale anyone rushing toward them in the eye or something. :)

Either way, no, I don't believe he's the bodyguard at all, yes I believe he is her handler, but as long as she maintains it I will point out the inappropriateness & unprofessionalism. Personally I do think these photos are meant at some level to wound Jon, I mean you don't USUALLY see the nannies or the TLC crew or Jamie or Carla or any of the other help chowing down with k8 & the kids in a restaurant you mostly tend to see steve. After all it is Jon who wanted Steve gone & well Steve is still very clearly in the picture, Jon is not.

Steve is an employee then it's not exactly right to show such favoritism to one member of the hired help either, IMO. It just makes it all the more obvious that he is a handler & that k8 cannot deal with even the smallest things in life on her own.

Who is John Timpane? said...

mama san said...
My comment is self explanatory - an email to John Timpane re: his Sideshow piece.
"Good morning,
Read your column today, 1/20/11, in the Inky. Kate Gosselin does not work her fingers to the bone. Watch any episode and it is apparent that it is the sextuplets and the twins. Give Jon a break." Timpane manages to be snarky when it comes to Jon.

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Could you give us an url to find the Philly.com article written by Mr. Timpane please? Those of us who aren't regular readers would like to see what you're talking about. TIA

so sick of her said...

Well, besides the pics at Target, Dicks sports, drycleaners, Kate actually pick her kids up at the school bus drop-off. Wow, Kate actually doing a mom thing, or did the nannies have the day off. So why did not Jon pick them up, cause maybe the whole job thing of him quiting was BS. Kate must think she is hot stuff, got to show the girls(or is she starting pre-menopause), not wearing a coat, the only thing she is showing is that she is an idiot, Kate your not a teen or in your twentys, grow up. You are a very poor role model, for your children.

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