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Budget Confidential said...

I have had a thought tonight on the Alaska episode. Do you think TLC might have done some editing to include the 'bad Kate' footage to help get them off the hook for the recent bad press the kids have been getting. Sort of like, 'See... the kids act out because Kate is cruel... not because we film them.' I could easily see TLC throwing Kate under the bus in under to save their own reputation.

Regardless of why the footage was allowed to air, i am glad it did so the world could see the truth.

Mom In Lancaster County said...

"Kate is very nonchalant about the whole thing and really doesn't interact with the staff (at the school)"

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LOL!! That's the understatement of the year. She never has! I bet if you asked her the names of some of the department heads, she'd be clueless. Jon has ALWAYS been the hands-on parent, the one who supports the kids in all of their school activities. The school is done with this. They are not talking about it. They don't want to talk about it. It's over, it's in the past, and it's time to move on.

"A lot of the teachers are hoping Kate chooses another school for the kids."

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The teachers have made no such comment. This is speculation. It would be totally unprofessional and a violation of the cautionary warning that was given out to each of them. Their jobs could be on the line.

Monster Mommy said...

Kate Gosselin is a HUGE LIAR- and now everyone finally knows it.

I knew the Expulsion-Gate lies would be her demise. Thank God, the children have Jon and Ellen for some resemblance of sanity.

Tami said...

Just saw the INF pics. I really can't say she had any kind of peel from the pic. Looks like it could be just a lack of makeup (I know my face gets sort of reddish naturally) or maybe she got burned in the tanning booth. It does not look that out of the ordinary to me. Also, does she not bother to see that the little boys wear socks in winter? I see 2 pics of boys with no socks climbing into car. Someone definitely should have had a herd of kids if she can't pay attention to them all! Hard to believe she looks so haggard considering her lifestyle. She should look great with all the money she spends on herself and all the time she has to relax, etc.

ihatefrogstoo said...

Teachers do talk and maybe very obliquely. There are ways besides saying it openly to get across the point. It could just be an eye roll every time Kate's name is mentioned.

As other people say, if you aren't around 100% of the teachers 100% of the time, you don't know what is said, expressed, or intimated.

kate can't do sh** said...

Hmmmm. How telling. The boobyguard was at the Under Armour store. Kate seems to always wear Under Armour when she is doing her runs. I always wondered if she was getting paid to wear their merchandise. I guess Stevie likes to see his woman wear only the best. Good job Steve. Your woman will appreciate the thoughtfulness of your gift. Now we know why the previous A-B cup frump works so hard to get in shape. She keeps her body in shape for you. You being the fit guy you are and all. Now it all makes sense.

Regarding the possible recent plastic surgery, do we think she is doing it for self-image issues or to make herself marketable for Hollywood? Hard to tell. Her kids made it possible for her to ride on their coat-tails and now the sky is the limit with the spending for Kate. The issue for the public is not that she is having surgeries and spending money, it's that the money came from her exploiting those poor little kids. She takes it to the extreme though. It's one thing buying clothes and shoes but she is getting so many plastic surgeries done at a cost of thousands of dollars. That's what really pisses people off. We don't mind if Angelina Jolie does it or hell, even Kelly Rippa but because it's Kate the Grifter, a nobody from No Where Town, USA, we take great exception because she hasn't EARNED the right. ARRGGHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Blech.

BoxARox said...

I wonder why Steve is in MD (seen at a mall by O.P.-previous week's blog). Gee Steve , did Gina actually "make" you show up at home (your official home) for the holidays? Cuz you just KNOW K8 wouldn't give a shoot about any of that, and would have him at her beck&call even on Christmas Day. I would still love to talk to Gina N., even just once!
And Steve? Whether you are more than a "bodyguard" to KHate or not, at this point I think you are a P.O.S.! Because just the APPEARANCE now, is an affront. It's gone too far, "whatever it is." Stop now! I mean, why oh WHY would any man, knowing even *half* of the stuff we all know about KHate, ever willingly WANT to be involved with the woman?? Really?

Berks Has Shoes! said...

This comment under the jerk awards list for 2010 (Kate is #2):

"What a TOOL for listing a mom who has done nothing but get her kids off welfare while completely protecting them."

Where do they find these people?

fidosmommy said...

Teachers have family and friends who live far away. The cautionary
note given to teachers could just say they were not to discuss the Gosselin situation HERE. What's to stop Mrs. Jones from picking up her phone to call her best friend in Topeka to vent? The friend in Topeka could then tell her aunt in Seattle who then sat down and wrote
about inside information. Nobody would know who leaked the info.

I have a job that includes confidentiality to the highest degree. I cannot discuss anything told to me with anybody in the area. But, I can call a friend or family member or colleague who lives 2000 miles away and doesn't know this person in order to ask for some advice or to just vent. Nobody gets hurt and I don't feel like my head is going to explode. It does not circle back. How could it?

One of the things I learned in my
classes is that everybody needs somebody talk to about the messes that go on in their jobs. My lawyer has a confidant, my doctor has a confidant, my minister has several..... we all need at least one. There are entire discussion boards for people in my field to share their frustrations with those who understand. It is encouraged because it is anonymous.
We know a few real names, but most
are hidden behind aliases. It is a real blessing to know somebody is listening. If they "blab", it does not circle back to me.

Brummygirl said...

When Charles Dickens in 1843 wrote ”A Christmas Carol", little did he know that Scrooge would be resurrected 167 years later, in the form of Kate Gosselin.
Would that Marley’s ghost visit Kate and show her past, present and future in an effort for her to see exactly what has occurred over the past six and a half years.
Like Scrooge, she hoards money gained, not from the people, but from her children. Again like Scrooge, she cut her family ties and feels no joy unless it is for self.
Would it not be a good thing for Marley to visit Kate this Christmas as she will not have kith and kin around her other than her children, only paid obedient servants to tend her which will not fill her with the Christmas spirit.
So if those in P.A. hear the fierce wind whistling through this Christmas, fear not, it is only Marley’s ghost looking for a soul to repair!!!

Rainbow Brite said...

Kate is in the #2 position for Top TV Jerks!!


ttp://www.tvsquad.com/2010/12/17/top-tv-jerks/?icid=maing%7Cmain5%7Cdl2%7Csec1_lnk5%7C32103

No Worry, Beef Curry said...

If loving Brummy is wrong.... I don't wanna be right.

Kate's getting nuttin' for Christmas.

Sherri Sheep-ard was on The View today, learning to swim. It was like watching a Sheeple in motion, with the Kate-esque dog paddle to boot.

No Worry, Beef Curry said...

Correction-
Sherri Sheep-Herd

Big Wooden Spoon said...

last2cu said...
Shall I dare say it?? Kates worn out dirty hooker heels have discount stickers on them?? Thanks for the tip!, BWAHHHA!

Thanks,WonderButton said...
http://celebrity-gossip.net/kate-gosselin/photo/kate-gosselin-1445

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If you look through that series of pictures, you will also see that the shoes are not even the right size! They stick out waaaay past her heels in the back.

Somehow, that smacks of addiction to either shoes or shopping. You know -- gotta get some, whether they fit or not.

JMO

Ohio Buckeye said...

@Budget Confidential: Since you asked:

JMO: I believe the entire episode was scripted with the basic and PLANNED concept of using K8G to showcase Silly Sarah in her manufactured Cheerful-Even-When-Shooting-A-Defenseless-Caribou Frontier Woman persona.

I believe K8G was a willing participate in the ruse. My guess is that the basic script was for K8G to play her best Grinch Gosselin as a foil against Polyanna Palin.

I am a fan of neither and I am certainly not saying either of them is any more genuine, any more likable than as shown in that horrific episode. Just saying it all pays the same.

The pitting the scripted Good Mom/Cheerful/Can Do It All Mom Palin against the Ever-Grousing Gosselin was nothing more than TLC's attempt to create drama in the hopes of winning ratings. If this ploy pans out ratings wise, we can expect to see more of this drivel on tv, especially from The Crap Channel, TLC.

Both Silly Sarah and Grumpy Gosselin WAY over played their characters to the point of making themselves cartoonish.

It truly is amazing what some will do for $ and 'fame'. You betcha'.

K8 fan. said...

Tami said...
Just saw the INF pics. I really can't say she had any kind of peel from the pic. Looks like it could be just a lack of makeup (I know my face gets sort of reddish naturally) or maybe she got burned in the tanning booth. It does not look that out of the ordinary to me.

I was gonna say that as well. My face is beet red when I am cold. And it's apparently frigid there.

Hippie Chick said...

Kate named one of the biggest jerks of the year; Kate named one of the biggest d-bags of the year; not ONE good article about her has come out recently...is Kate that dumb she can't see that she is no longer wanted in the public eye? She must see why she was named these things. Exploiting her kids, putting herself first, being a complete and utter ass, throwing Jon under the bus every chance she got...etc.

How can she go on? If this was me, & people were so blatantly mean & saying such awful things, I would hide under a rock. I would reassess my life, be a better person, obviously get my kids off TV, & stop chasing this invisible dream of fame. Kate is so delusional that she still thinks she has supporters. She burned all her bridges. ALL OF THEM. Kate, you are no longer wanted, get out of the spotlight, stop primping, stop spending, be a MOTHER. She better stop spending actually, it looks like the gravy train is ending...

Jane in CA said...

Teachers are human too, and just like anyone else, they do share about their daily lives with others. I have a sister who is a teacher. She talks about her students (without naming names) and shares little anecdotes of what happened at school that day.

However, the teachers at the Gosselins private school are probably well aware that even an "innocent" comment about "one of their students" can get around and become public knowledge, if people are digging for information.

I suspect that the information would more likely come from another parent at the school, who has watched events unfold, maybe overheard a teacher's comment to another about "I wish she'd just take her kids elsewhere," etc.

I worked in my son's classroom for several years and over that period of time, I often overheard two or more teachers talking to each other. I'm sure if I was really listening in, I would have heard juicy tidbits here and there.

Yes, I do know what is happening said...

Do I know that the school would prefer that all of the Gosselin children now leave? Yes. Why?

Remember when the twins, alone, attended that school. No publicity. No cameras. It was an area that the twins could escape to. They are older now, have friends since their beginning in that school.Now, they are extremely sad about the turmoil.

Yet, the tups are causing publicity that the parent's assoc have had complaints about. Photographers now being monitored from being too close to the school. More security has been hired to protect all of the students due to the Gosselin children attending. No one wants their children photographed or frightened by these people.

Kate does not cooperate with the school,was out of town most of the time since Sept. Jon is the parent who tried very hard to help. Yet, he is not allowed into the home. He has a new job cannot see the children until he is off of work, if Kate allows the children to see him on Friday nights, etc.

This school has had other children with problems. Children have on going problems as they grow, but now we have "children not use to being in a normal setting" among regular children who play, disagree, make up and share. If you work in a school, you know that the closeness of all students can cause "sibling type rivalry" at times. Teaching, counseling, special education depts have worked and continue to work hard to help children who have problems, even family home problems.

It works most of the time, not always. All children are different. We know that. You know that if you have more than 1 child. Children are individuals.

Yes, this is a private school. Yet, Kate insisted from the beginning of the tups full days to be at the bus stop with a photographer. They (Kate and TLC) use these pick ups/drop offs at the bus stop as Photo Ops. I do not know how they know when Jon is there to pick them up either.

The children beginning full time school with the twins became a theme for Kate's show. It should never have been a part of the TV show. Nothing pertaining to their private life should have been exposed. She cannot seem to stop.

She along with Jon were advised that Alex and Collin's problems should not have become a publicity ploy.

What happens now?

We saw that Kate is back from wherever, the children were alone in that house with babysitters and the dog.

She is not equipped to be the mother of multiple children. No, she is not.

If she continues to pursue the performance arena, she should do so and allow the father to try, with psychiatric help, try to raise these children without any further damage to the 8.

The entire 8 children are in trouble. Not just the 2 who are being tutored at home. All of the children are very sad.

As hard as the twins are trying, they are suffering more than we know.

Kate takes out her anger on all of the children. Her orders to the children are the same for all 8. None of the children are treated as individuals.

Is TLC going to continue to hold these children to their mother and father's contract?

If so, we will see some terrible situations involving the twins. As they are being made fun of by what once were their friends.

Yes, this is all much sadder due to a woman and man who first saw the $$$ before they thought of their children.

Yes, I do know what is happening said...

My husband and I saw her getting her gas, yep. Didn't know that I was seeing her or not, then the hair, the face is heavily covered with some type of makeup to cover the redness, but you can tell by the hair blowing and seeing the skull, which is white as white. Her face and lips are covered with something brown.

The photographer guy is there, standing near his car. She got in her van, made a phone call, he picked up his phone that was ringing.

What a joke this woman is. Why would she still want photos taken with all of this going on with the children?

Another car followed Kate in the van. An african american man, he waved at the photographer, then they drove toward the shopping area. I guess the Fed Ex office, etc.

So it was the van, the african american man in his car and then the photographer in his car.

I would have never believed it but we saw it with our own eyes. I wanted my husband to follow and he laughed and said, "we are not going to be a part of this".

Yes, she does look very old considering what her age is, and her hair is sort of white with blond. It is something you would expect to find on someone who spends a lot of excessive stripping of her hair. Too much, not natural at all.

Several people stared but she didn't flinch. Not like we normally do when pumping gas, look to see who is behind us or if cars are moving. Very busy station too.

I guess I can say I saw her and I agree, something very abnormal about her appearance, what happened to her?

I did wonder, if you have all of those people working for you in your house, why not send someone to pick up your mail, get your gas, etc. Stay at home, stay out of the limelight, let the story fade about the childdren.

She doesn't stop with the photographers, does she? Had no idea she was that obsessed. I mean I read about it, but now I saw it.

No, I did not think she was attractive. I thought she reminded me of someone who was trying too hard to look younger, but when you see them from behind, they seem okay, then when you see the face? Scary.

I know I didn't speak with her, but I must say I think there is something seriously wrong with her. Why doesn't she just move away from the area? Go where no one knows you.

teachers don't talk said...

Don't blame the teachers or teachers aids. There are administrators and administrative assts in that school.

I just wonder if e mails were sent through the school from one to another and someone can sit outside and read e mails. They have those contraptions that people who know how to sit outside of a house and be able to break through the satellite and security systems, to find out what was going on re: Gosselin kids.

It sounds weird, but it is done. Identity theft is even done that way.

A good mother said...

Kate loves her publicity, be it bad or good, she just wants to be in the media.

If she and Sarah acted out the show, I doubt it, know why? Sarah's father hit the nail on the head "she bitched from the time she got off of the plane.

Was Kate forced to do that filming with Sarah?

Why is Mady crying in that family pic?

Baby Mama has that photo on her web site. Plus she blames everyone but Kate and then all of the comments are so negative about Kate. TLC allows this?

I look at it this way, "Anything for publicity" sacrifice the kids.

Yes, I think Kate hit Mady. Kate strikes out on impulse, look at you tube tapes and tlc taped segments.

She just strikes out. The kids look forlorn and I think they are afraid of Kate and they do rebel and when they do, she hits them.

She said on a tape that Collin and Alexis were the ones who were the fighters, got hurt more. I watched little Alexis throw her body on top of her sisters, then kick them. Alexis has anger issues, no doubt.

Collin didn't want to be wrapped up in that blanket and play "baby" he didn't want the touching and constriction? Something there very wrong to be held tightly by her.

Shoka's Understudy said...

I believe by TLC airing the antics of kate was because when she said she was leaving, it makes more sense to show her beefing and whining the whole time to really explain the reasons why they had to stop filming and leave.

Pretending to be homeless.

You like this?

Gosselin or Palin?

I'm cold and hungry.

Throws food on the ground.

Also, about kate's non tipping, make-up artists and hairdressers are a respected field and they are very supportive of each other and are beloved by real stars who get them ready for their JOB.

Then, why on earth doesn't the salon that Ted does NOT own BAN her
from the shop? Why should a normal business let that gloom and doom monster come in and upset the apple cart? We know Ted is getting paid from TLC.

If I was the owner of that make up store that kate went into and rang up a huge purchase and then demanded to see me and demand a discount, as soon as she left, I would put a sign on the door saying that kate gosselin is officially banned from this store.

All it takes is a Black Sharpie and a Poster Board and Scotch Tape.

Please don't forget under penalty of severenessish.

lukebandit

Wake Up said...

You are all very naive if you think your children's teachers are not complaining about them in the teacher's room, if your children are ill-behaved or disrespectful. You can bet the Gosselins horrid behavior is being discussed. Now, speaking to the Enquirer is one thing--but speaking to anyone? I'm sure the teachers want those kids gone, if they are discipline problems and have a difficult mother. And I bet they've told a lot of people, too.

Exhausted by TLC said...

We should not be so quick to include Ellen in Jon and Kate. Ellen is a girlfriend and a young girlfriend, she also has a web site, giving advice. It is wonderful that Jon has someone in his life, but I would feel better if Jon stood up to Kate, forced her into therapy with him and got pass the anger issues and he and Kate would parent those children.

He should be allowed into that house when she is out of town. Can you imagine what these kids could do while the babysitters are asleep? Horrific things happen when parents aren't home.

The Custody Judge should order counseling for both parents together. TLC should order the counseling to continue to even film any show involving Kate, to clean up their reputation.

The children should be removed from that private school to a school for children who can be protected from the media and/or people who can "leak" private information. There are lots of them in Pa.

If they are alone most of the time, except for designated Sat or Suns and Kate is out of town, then why can't they be at a boarding school where they would be able to learn what a family is like. They could go home when the parent is there.

George School in Langhorne is one of those schools run by Quakers. Movie star's children go there as they get out of the glare of their parent's reputation and they love it there.

Something so wrong with leaving children alone in a house for a week or more at a time. Wrong, if there is anger, who is going to know if one of them will do something very wrong to another or harm the house? Need I say more?

Don't go telling me about these boarding schools all being bad. They are not. Some are exactly what the children need better than being filmed in your own yard playing with your dog. How can they ever be left alone. Look what she and he have done to these children?

Look at Mady in Alaska in the family memory photo.

Bet most of these children want to get away from Kate's constant glare of photographers that she calls. Some of these children do see "normal" and want "normal", they are so sad.

Remember something, this is the first family of reality tv and we have learned, haven't we? You cannot raise children with everything sacrificing their childhood and raising them as children.

She is a terrible person, he is a weak person for allowing it.

Drake said...

Budget Confidential said, "Do you think TLC might have done some editing to include the 'bad Kate' footage to help get them off the hook . . .?"

Speaking as someone with a family member who once ran a network, I can tell you that normally, each production company is responsible for its own editing, regardless of which network has bought its product. So unless TLC is operating differently from the norm, each show in its line-up is edited by the editors of that show, under the supervision of that show's director(s) and producer(s). (And I'm betting that Palin's contact allows her some creative control over her show's content as well.)

What this means is that you have Sarah's team wanting to put Sarah in her best light, and Kate's team wanting to do the same for Kate. And obviously, Sarah's team had no incentive to make Kate look good.

This having been said, though, TLC would still have had the right not to air the episode with Kate's melt-down. So the network did decide that its ratings were more important that keeping Kate's "good mom" image intact -- and to me, this says a lot about how TLC will be marketing her in the future (unless they decide to drop her entirely).

Exhausted by TLC said...

The teachers did not talk about the Gosselin children in the break room. They do not do that like you think.

That is something that does not occur due to the Privacy Laws involving children.

Do not blame those teachers. Blame the parents of the children who were hit or blame Ellen.

Someone manages to leak this info to the sites. Why is it known that Jon receives calls from angry parents about Santa? Why is it that it is known that Jon received letters from the school?

Even Jon's own family could have spoken to the sites, it does not come from the teachers.

Bubbles said...

I don't think any of us need to be wasting time trying to figure out who leaked info. It doesn't really matter where the info is coming from - what matters is what gets done about it. Unfortunately not much seems to be being done to help these kids and that's what disturbs me.

Comments about how "wonderful" it is that Ellen is part of their lives bother me - Ellen is in her early 20s, never been married, never had children, is using her connection with the Gosselin name to drum up publicity for her "advice blog" and the survey sites where she gets paid for referrals. She and Jon have not been dating even a year yet, and the likelihood of their relationship lasting on a long term basis is pretty small. If Jon did get even 50% residential custody, is this young woman prepared to handle being a step-mother to 8 children with severe emotional problems? Won't she want to have children of her own? The last thing Jon should ever do is have any more children - he needs to do right by the ones he already has, not make more.

I don't think Ellen has bad intentions, but I don't think it's appropriate that she's part of the children's lives at this point. The kids barely get to see Jon as it is, and then they have to share him with his girlfriend who is, at most, 15 years older than the twins? Why can't Jon just BE A DAD???

becca said...

Sorry, but Teachers do talk about kids in the break room. It is a support system and a way for us to get ideas and input on what to do. I have been a teacher for almost 20 years and it happens EVERYWHERE. It should not be nasty, but you can go to other teachers and ask their advice, opinions, or just vent. It is necessary for teachers to do this to stay sane sometimes.

Carezee said...

Exhausted by TLC. Can I ask you how you know that the teachers at the school don't talk about the students in the break room? I am a teacher. When we are at lunch we do discuss students and problems we are having. I do not believe that just because it is a private school that they are not discussing any student with each other. Teachers are sounding boards for other teachers to help bounce off ideas on how to handle a student with problems. There is nothing wrong with that.

IDModo said...

People need to realize when they talk about compulsory therapy or counselling for Kate, that compulsory therapy doesn't work. You have to want to change, like the light bulb that only takes one psychiatrist...

Kate has no idea that what she is doing is wrong, nor would she care if someone pointed it out. Forcing her to go to therapy, especially with Jon, is ordering the poor therapist to become a kamikaze pilot. Please don't wish that on a mental health professional!

Katykat said...

The teachers HAD to have discussed the Gosselin children to get them help. They might have spoken amongst themselves to get ideas. Then as the discipline problems escalated, they had to have spoken to the Head Master, School Psychologist, School Counselor, etc. They might have spoken with the bus driver and the luch room monitor to determine if there were any issues there in order to put together a full picture.

On top of this Kindergarten is a grade known for having LOTS of volunteer Moms, who are often very tight with each other. If my child came home with a story of having been hit, and I knew the Mom that volunteered that day, I would call her to see what she had witnessed before I brought it up with the teacher.

So, while I'm sure the teachers are very professional at the school, there had to have been talk...constructive talk...about the Gosselins...and you never know who might have heard or who might have been witness to this.

Just My Few Canadian Cents said...

Hippie Chick, I liked your post. I have a few comments to add to it.

Hippie Chick said...

"Kate named one of the biggest jerks of the year; Kate named one of the biggest d-bags of the year; not ONE good article about her has come out recently..." - And that is exactly how TLC wants to market her. Kate is no Mrs. Cleaver and given her personality and intellectual deficits it is futile to try and portray her as a competent, loving mother. So they go with the jerk and douchebag image, which Kate has mastered, and is very profitable for TLC and any site or magazine that runs stories about her.



"is Kate that dumb she can't see that she is no longer wanted in the public eye?... How can she go on? If this was me, & people were so blatantly mean & saying such awful things, I would hide under a rock. I would reassess my life, be a better person, obviously get my kids off TV."
- this is the difference between someone who is not mentally ill, and/or doesn't have a personality disorder. A rational, logical, responsible parent with a capacity for empathy, affection, and sacrifice, would do exactly as you said and probably not expose their children on a reality show. The only way I can make sense of Kate is to figure she suffers from a mental illness and/or personality disorder. I'm not saying this to be mean and mock her, but as someone who is concerned about the welfare of all children. In my opinion TLC and every media outlet that features her is pretty much making fun of someone with an illness/personality disorder. This does not absolve Kate at all for her predicament, but the people promoting and featuring her, probably know better and continue to allow her to publically hang herself because the bigger the ass Kate comes across as, the bigger the profits are off her. Very sad.


And lastly, I don't watch TLC shows, but I agree with the posters who say they are staged. I think Kate hammed it up for the cameras when she was in Alaska not caring how she comes across as long as people continue to write about and photograph her. It's not about how the editting or the "real Kate" coming out. It's about Kate and TLC doing whatever they need to do to keep Kate in the spotlight.

seasidebreeze said...

So what is next, do you think? Obviously there has been a massive backlash against Kate these past weeks with the Alaska episode and ROL articles about Kate lying about the suspension. People who supported Kate are seeing the light - finally. They are realizing the kids are in serious trouble as well. How can TLC push the Gosselin brand any further? Are any new episodes being filmed? Twist of Kate must surely be dead too. I think when this is all over Kate is going to really break down. Jon better do something to help the kids get away from her when it happens.

Bailey said...

My friend didn't say the teachers all sit around and talk about Kate. They could get fired if they did that. But some of them read the tabs and blogs too. Looks pass between teachers when Kate finally shows up, which is rare. Kids will be kids is what she believes. Jon actually has come in on his own, when there was no appointment, to discuss the children's problems. She doesn't know what's said but the teachers are very warm with him and vise versa. He is kept up to date on things. He is trying to turn his life around and he's getting more respect than Kate. She's in denial is what my friend says. I hope the kids will be ok, because they really are good kids. They're just having some serious problems at the moment.

Sharla said...

Arguing about who did or didn't say what is pointless as we will never fully know. Please stop and enjoy the holiday season.

Thank you so very much!

Jane in CA said...

Bubbles - re Ellen and being part of Jon's life, and thus part of his children's life.

Jon and Kate are divorced, and we all know Jon really doesn't do well when single. I think he is much more stable lately than he has been in a long time. At least she seems like a balanced and kind-hearted person. I'd much rather the children spend time with Jon when he is happy and content in his personal life, has another calming presence around them when they visit, etc.

But other than that, I also don't like pulling Ellen into the equation. Fact is - almost all divorced people tend to date again, become romantically involved and then those new partners are part of the childrens' lives. It is what it is, and she is sooooo much better than Hailey Glassman.

Tami said...

And lastly, I don't watch TLC shows, but I agree with the posters who say they are staged. I think Kate hammed it up for the cameras when she was in Alaska not caring how she comes across as long as people continue to write about and photograph her. It's not about how the editting or the "real Kate" coming out. It's about Kate and TLC doing whatever they need to do to keep Kate in the spotlight.
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It did seem over the top, but she has behaved horribly all throughout the years of the show and many just miss it or excuse it. The worst part of her behavior I saw was something no one has mentioned so many may have missed. When standing on the dock waiting to board the plane the pilot seemed worried the kids were all just getting on alone. They were probably acting up and he wanted to be sure there was supervision. He asked Kate and the babysitters if adults were also boarding. The babysitters seemed young and naive and just stood there so he asked again. Kate sneered and said sarcastically, "Well, here we are!" That seems like something she totally did not think would make it on to the show. It seems like the way she always treats people but this time for whatever reason, all her snide comments made it through. We all can see when watching the show that so much is chopped up and edited. And we have heard from "insiders" that her behavior at these places is much worst than what is shown. So as over the top as it was, I am not convinced she was acting. I think her personality is just over the top ugly! So did anyone catch that part? For no reason, she was rude to this guy who was going to fly her and her kids for free on their camping trip.

Hippie Chick said...

There is NO reason why Kate's kids can't go to public school. Many celebs send their kids to public school. Kate is delusional. She thinks she is sooo special. Madonna sends her daughter to public school for crying out loud! Kate isn't even that famous, & frankly, she is the one who calls her lone pap to take these photos. I think it would benefit the kids if they had more socialization. This private school thing is a status symbol for Kate & nothing more. I'm sure it's a great school, but there would still be rules in place to protect those kids no matter where they went. Again, Kate is kidding herself if she thinks she is the only one in the world who has kids that have ever been photographed by paps. It is against the law for papparrazi to step on school grounds, public or private. The only thing would be cell phones. That's it. Get a frigin grip Kate. You are NOT special.

Nannersmom said...

I have been a lurker for awhile and now decided to comment.

Some have said that maybe the Alaska trip was edited to make Kate look bad. What was edited out? Why did Palin husband choose to fish in the rain instead of hanging at the campsite. Maybe it is because of worse behavior we did not see? Not anything to do with Mady..just Kate being Kate was to much...

Sheri said...

I've been a follower of this blog for a long time.

I think what you have here is tangible evidence that there are people who saw through Kate and TLC's charade and who from very early on expressed their concern for the Gosselin kids.

That this farce is allowed to continue just boggles my mind. Is there no sense of morality at all left in this society?

Are people really satisfied by the idea that "at least they'll be able to sue TLC when they're 18" as compensation for what these kids have endured.

The sextuplets were bred to make money for their selfish, entitled, egomaniac of a mother who wasn't getting enough attention (or any endorsement deals) from her "Gosselin Twins".

Kate is as interested in raising her kids and being a real mom as she was in camping in Alaska.

Oooooh, I'm cold in my boots in Alaska in July but I'll wear open toed shoes in PA in December. GMAFB!

Anyone who supports this woman now is either delusional or making money from it.

I recently commented that I was starting to feel sorry for Kate...I take it back.

The only people I feel sorry for are those kids. Shakespeare himself could not have imagined such a tragedy.

And if you think I'm being dramatic, just research the Dionne Quints and the Louds from An American Family.

History is merely repeating itself...what's sad is that no one who can is doing anything to stop it.

so sick of her said...

Ok, where do you think Kates next pic will be? I say Target.

readerlady said...

Sometime in the future:

The Pearly Gates swing wide as a new soul approaches. St. Peter looks up from his ledger and says "Yes?"

"Let me in. I belong here. I had 8 - count 'em, 8 - kids."

"Name?" St. Peter says boredly.

"Gosselin. Kate Gosselin. I did it all for my kids."

"Hmm" says St. Peter, looking at his ledger. "Oh yes, here we are. Reality TV star."

"Yes" smirks the Kate soul. "For my kids."

St. Peter peruses his ledger. "Oh my. Smacked daughter, caught on camera, for playing with toy you gave her. Smacked son in mouth, caught on camera, for unknown reasons. Denied daughter a drink of water, caught on camera. Smacked, berated and verbally abused spouse, caught on camera. Refused to play with children, caught on camera."

"But, but - I was BUSY."

"Broke the 4th commandment."

"But they didn't know how to help me" whined the Kate soul.

"Said you should just shoot spouse - for failing to use a coupon?"

"He cost me money I could have used on mani/pedis, hair appointments and tanning sessions."

"Rude and disrespectful to nearly everyone you encountered."

"I don't notice other people."

"Ignored childrens' obvious distress and continued to force them to film a television show instead of helping them."

"But I had to take care of them all by myself!"

"Whined about the cold and wasted food while complaining about being hungry."

"I don't have the outdoor gene. Besides, I'd rather be someplace warm."

"I think we can accommodate that desire" said St. Peter. "That way, please" and he pointed to the stairway leading to the nether regions.

NoUse4Kate said...

Yes, I do know...I enjoyed your posts as they were full of passion, which leads me to believe that you are speaking from the heart. Watch your back though, if you get too close she may whack you with one of her hooker heels. It must be very strange to live close by to that train wreck.

Here in NY said...

So to add to Kate's list of year-end honors (jerk lists, etc.), I see that Entertainment Weekly has named Kate Plus 8 its Worst Series of the Year.

I have the print copy, and I don't know if it's online or not. But here's how the magazine (page 97) summed up this dubious honor:

"Sure, a gal's gotta make a living. But better Kate Gosselin should go back to nursing -- or even find another reality show a la Dancing with the Stars to vent her free-loating rage -- than foist her bad temper and questionable child-rearing on American and those poor kids of hers. Added pain in watching: wondering if those tykes will ever have a strong father figure in their lives."

WonderButton said...

Exhausted by TLC said....

*snip*

He should be allowed into that house when she is out of town. Can you imagine what these kids
could do while the babysitters are asleep? Horrific things happen when parents aren't home.

*snip*

Ever since the news about hurting the adults at the school broke, I've been having visions of "Lord of the Flies". God help those kids.

And regarding the "Yes, here we are" comment about adults going on the boat plane - I think the pilot thought that the babysitters were just kids themselves, and Kate was peeved. Or, possibly, Kate didn't want to go on the plane and came in by boat. I'd like to look at the footage again to note the call number on the side of the plane when it's in the air vs at the dock and see if it's the same aircraft. And - BTW - Didn't Sarah ask Piper if she wanted to "walk them to the BOAT"? (didn't say boatplane, just boat. Huge difference.)

And finally - Kate asked Sarah "So, you're really staying here, for real?" Which clearly says to me that Kate's version of reality and version we see on TV are two very different things. Kate probably thought that as soon as the cameras were off, Sarah and crew would have packed out of there ASAP. I'm totally certain now that most of what Kate does and what we see on the show is just for the cameras.

BoxARox said...

Kate Krieder/Gosselin is misery personified. Period.
O.P. mentioned the only "joy" she gets is in her mucho-Me time, the mani-pedi's , steve, the hair etc. I beg to differ. K8 experiences NO joy, IMO. She has the type of black-hole soul that is never filled, and never satisfied. So "joy" is elusive to her. It will never happen. No matter how beautiful or pampered or big of a house or stupendous view from said house, there will ALWAYS be someone somewhere, who is more beautiful, who "has more." THus, K.Krieder will NEVER experience Joy and NEVER be "satisfied." Maybe this blog will exist for *years* to come because of that?! Because she will seek, and seek, and seek again, and frankly, I don't see her WILLINGLY going away; she is gonna have to be dragged kicking , screaming, bitching and spitting. So we will be reading about her for some times to come. (sigh)

Mom In Lancaster County said...

Would that Marley’s ghost visit Kate and show her past, present and future in an effort for her to see exactly what has occurred over the past six and a half years.

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The ghost of Jacob Marley didn't show those things to Ebenezer. Those were three spirits -- the ghosts of Christmas Past, Christmas Present, and Christmas Yet To Come. Marley, who had died seven years before the narrative begins, had been condemned to wander the earth in heavy chains for all eternity. If the third spirit would visit Kate, she'd probably take a look at her future, and be in denial. Confronting reality doesn't always work for everyone. I think wandering the earth in chains might be a better choice. At least she wouldn't be able to control the lives of the children.


Sorry for the ramblings -
holiday cheer to everyone! I just sigh when I think what this year is going to be like for those eight children, and it's so depressing.

I think more than anything that it's the frustration so many feel. Frustration because everyone in the lives of these kids, and these who are only looking at them from afar know that things must change, and there is one person who is supposed to be their guardian, their protector, who is in denial. That person holds the future of these children in her hands, and nobody has the power to get them off television and give them back whatever childhood they have left. Frustration is a very disturbing emotion, and therefore, we all tend to react differently. It doesn't always bring out the best in us; but, our goal is the same -- putting an ecand to this nightmare.

Have a blessed Christmas, everyone, Tiny Tim, too!

zoey said...

the INF photos frightened me!
the first photo, (not a close up) she looked like a burn victim. a more subtle Freddie Kruger.
Ohhh... new nick name in the works.. Freddie Kreider. or Kate Kruger.
haha

SmileyGrl752 said...

This comment under the jerk awards list for 2010 (Kate is #2):

"What a TOOL for listing a mom who has done nothing but get her kids off welfare while completely protecting them."

Where do they find these people?

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Sheeple just don't see the light b/c the wool is pulled over their eyes. Whoever commented that; I'd like to ask her, "so letting your kids puke on a boat and not turning around, giving them clean clothes or medicine is protecting them?" How sad that people still defend her even now.

Mom In Lancaster County said...

Ohhh... new nick name in the works.. Freddie Kreider.

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Hey! My cousin's name is Fred Kreider, and he doesn't look like Freddy Krueger, not much...well, maybe just a little bit, especially after last night's Christmas party. His eyes are still bloodshot.

hannah said...

This comment under the jerk awards list for 2010 (Kate is #2):

"What a TOOL for listing a mom who has done nothing but get her kids off welfare while completely protecting them."

Where do they find these people?



How is she protecting them? Showing them half naked on tv/going to the bathroom. Talking about personal issues on tv.


They could of not been on welfare. A lot of large familys do it(The duggars did before TLC)

I rather have them be on welfare. then have their lives ruined for money.

Brummygirl said...

@Mom In Lancaster County

I do know that. We cut our teeth on Dickens in England. I didn't want to get too literal, I was quipping. I prefer Marley clanking his chains..Much more scary.
Dickens intended this to be a pamphlet "An Appeal to the People of England, on behalf of the Poor Man's Child" but changed it into a book.

h84k8 said...

Exhausted by TLC said...
The teachers did not talk about the Gosselin children in the break room. They do not do that like you think.

That is something that does not occur due to the Privacy Laws involving children.

Do not blame those teachers. Blame the parents of the children who were hit or blame Ellen.

Someone manages to leak this info to the sites. Why is it known that Jon receives calls from angry parents about Santa? Why is it that it is known that Jon received letters from the school?

Even Jon's own family could have spoken to the sites, it does not come from the teachers.


It could have come from ANYONE who has any contact with anyone associated with the school, family, friends, relatives, employees. It does no good to anyone to point fingers and try to place blame on someone when we have no proof of anything.

h84k8 said...

ami said...
When standing on the dock waiting to board the plane the pilot seemed worried the kids were all just getting on alone ...He asked Kate and the babysitters if adults were also boarding. The babysitters seemed young and naive and just stood there so he asked again. Kate sneered and said sarcastically, "Well, here we are!" ... I think her personality is just over the top ugly! So did anyone catch that part? For no reason, she was rude to this guy who was going to fly her and her kids for free on their camping trip.


Yes, she said that to the pilot and her comment was very rude, imo. There were rumors that Steve had to talk Kate into getting on the plane for the trip in the first place so I can imagine that the pilot was quite apprehensive about his passengers as well as the spectacle Kate probably made prior to boarding.

The twins live a very sad life said...

Something that we who know the children wonder?

Why the twins do not carry a cell phone in their backpacks. They are not allowed to have a cell phone or to text.

When asked how they can get in touch with their mother and father, they said they can't unless they are at home and they are not allowed to answer the phone, a babysitter answers the phone. So, they can't get a hold of their Dad when the Mom is out of town.

I know, how do I know? My child was once a friend of one of the twin girls. Their friends have been denied access to them unless the mother permits. Not a play time or an activity. Everything goes through a written message to the Mom by way of the twin involved.

Their latest birthday party was very sad.

PA G-ma said...

Looking back to past episodes of the shows, I am wondering what has happened to the many "traditions" that were filmed. Most of these traditions were a one-time event.

The "tradition" of caroling at friends' homes. This happened just once (on film). Maybe the field of friends has whittled down to zero.

The "tradition" of Christmas shopping (ToysRUs) and having the kids pick out gifts for their siblings. Did ToysRUs wise up as to their regular customers who pay for their own purchases?

There were other instances of "traditions" that K8 mentioned. She doesn't seem to get it that a one-time event is NOT a tradition.

I wonder haow many Christmases the kids have this year? Wasn't it something like @ or 3 per yule season?

In spite of K8, I really wish that the kids have a merry Christmas that they can enjoy as normal kids, no pressure to perform, merely to savor the joys of the season. That could be the start of a good tradition.

Merry Christmas to all GWOPers.

K8 Fan. said...

That's crazy about how she keeps the twins so isolated. My oldest is about a year younger than them and he is getting a cell for Christmas. It's only costing us $10/mo and we can limit who he can call, who he can text, what hours he can use the phone, whether or not he can access the Internet, etc. all through AT&T, we set the limits and his phone will only do what we say it can do. Those girls should be able to call their dad whenever they want.

I think it is soooooo funny that she said Jon should be shot for not using a coupon on a $50 shower head. She freaked because it wasn't necessary to spend $50 on a showed head, they have ones that are less expensive. The reason it kills me is: a) um, HELLO, you live in a $1.3 million home, and youre gonna get stingy on the shower head?!?!?! b) this is the same woman that spends $2k on a hair do. HELLO, there are less expensive places to go, also I doubt Mr. NYC stylist takes coupons, supercuts does though Kate!!!! Remember, we don't buy ANYTHING w/o a coupon!!!!!!!

pinkdiamond611 said...

So, any other "specials" scheduled for broadcast??? One would think there would be a G Holiday special, you know, showing all the traditions. Oh wait, there are NO traditions except getting free stuff from the sheeple and Kart getting another tan and mani-pedi. On another note, I am willing to bet that the twins have their father's cell phone number memorized, and I am sure there are "ways" for them to gain access to a cell phone or hopefully, someone has taught them to use a payphone.

vltaylor said...

According to one of the Philadelphia newspapers, Kate is taking the kids to a hockey game for filming.

Gimme Gimme said...

My favorite tradition - granma's annual soup, to make it through the winter, I guess - about six bags full and a blown up stove.

Deck The Halls said...

Why the twins do not carry a cell phone in their backpacks. They are not allowed to have a cell phone or to text.

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That's something I agree with. No lower school student should have a cell phone in the back pack or be texting. They don't need it. The school has emergency numbers, and they can wait until they get home if they want to call their friends. They see friends at school. No need to text them within the school. School is school. Not a social engagement.

What about school policy?

Anonymous said...

California Teacher,
Regarding the expulsion, I'm fairly certain semantics play a signaficant. The parents were probably given the option to voluntarily withdraw the children before they were formally asked to leave. Thus it's not technically a lie to say they were'nt expelled. Could they go back, highly unlikely. The self proclaimed "ubermother" maintains her "need" or perhaps more accurately, "compulsion: to micromanage every aspect of the children's lives.
It is also quite possible that some of the tupes may have learning disabilities which are more noticable in a school setting. If this is the case, then the tip of the iceberg has just been exposed. They require more parental time, love and support, not the best "care" that minimum wage can provide. That's sure not a ten dollar an hour caregiver.
some day Kate will sit surrounded by framed magazine covers, old DVD's and books, and blame her troubles on others.

Nina said...

I am very disappointed that filming allegedly continues. However, I don't think TLC is going to get good ratings from Kate taking the kids to a sporting event. Been there done that.

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/flyers/20101218_Bartulis_ready_to_step_into_lineup.html

Bottom of the article.

Brummygirl said...

vltaylor said...
According to one of the Philadelphia newspapers, Kate is taking the kids to a hockey game for filming.
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What???? So T.L.C. is still demanding their pound of flesh!!!!
As usual, I will not turn on to their channel, I hope she freezes her ass off at the game. This will be one more sport she knows nothing about.
How are they going to manage this, turn up at a practice with no audience?
Kate, if you think Alaska was cold, just wait until you have sat in an arena with no audience for body heat. This I know about, having had a daughter in skating for years. Oh I forgot, you have Steve to keep you warm!!

Brummygirl said...

I would like to take this opportunity to wish The Mods and everyone from GWOP, A Very Merry Christmas with family and friends.

Chris said...

12/18/2010 2:23 PM

Hippie Chick said...
There is NO reason why Kate's kids can't go to public school. Many celebs send their kids to public school.
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As a public school employee I KNOW that we routinely protect the safety/privacy of all of out students. Some of our students are the children of celebrities while others are family members of political leaders in unstable countries where there have been many political assasinations. When necessary, we have increased security measures to include things like bomb "sweeps". In over 25 years of doing this I'm glad to say that we've had no incidents of any sort. I like to think that all public schools can and will do the same.

Lillybug said...

Werny Gal has posted that the article about the hockey game is not true and that the kids are with Jon this weekend.

Exhausted said...

Something I was thinking about: We took our two young children to Disney last week, and flying with kids is just overwhelming. There are more bags than you have hands for, there is no one to help you, there is a big bulky stroller that has to get folded up to get through the security checkpoint, and, true to my name, I was Exhausted before we even got on the flight.

After all was said and done, the four of us had such a nice time together, and I realized that most of this was because we did it on our own as a family. Once you start outsourcing your jobs as a parent, you become less connected to the whole core of it. If someone had been there to carry all our bags and then we had other helpers to each assist with a child, it would have been a quick fix, but it would have disconnected us from being there with our kids. Same thing with Christmas coming up. The thought of all the wrapping and assembling and then putting it out Christmas Eve when you're both dead tired already is a lot to tackle, but it's the work of parenting that makes your kids someday appreciate how much you did; it keeps you organically (no pun intended) linked to the whole picture. As tiring as it is, this is how it's supposed to be when you have little kids. I see my older daughter growing up so quickly, and I know we're going to blink and the house will be quiet with none of this bustling.

Jon and Kate should have just been satisfied with the twins and not made such a mess out of their lives by having as many multiples as they could just to get attention. The tups are beautiful children, but these parents were not equipped to give them the time and love they needed. And this is why most people would not have done fertility treatments when they already had one set of multiples. When you think of the "We wanted just one more" statement, it's absurd. You got double that the first time, and you knew you were risking something explosive.

Back to my original point. Once you start having all these regular parental duties outsourced and you no longer can get your kids up and ready in the morning or all settled on a plane by yourselves, do you realize what a mess you've made? A few kids is enough work forever; eight kids is to a level of sheer chaos. If they wanted to make it work, they could have been good parents to these eight, but they thought they could do the bare minimum--sleep until eight, go for spa treatments weekly, and get two-seater sport cars and a Bachelor's apartment in NYC. Are you kidding me?

The level of thoughtlessness and the complete lack of dedication these two have put into an undertaking that needs tireless effort and love and determination is mind boggling. I enjoy my children so much, and I love hearing all they say. The kids are all at ages now where much of the hard work would be over if J+K had worked as a team and they could be enjoying great family time, but all they have done is made a mess.

Jane in CA said...

Exhausted:

Loved your post about how some of the most fondly remembered moments of our lives are those that might have felt the most hectic at the time, such as taking a holiday trip with young children and having to rely solely on you and your spouse to handle all details.

One thing you said, I wanted to offer a different take: "Jon and Kate should have just been satisfied with the twins and not made such a mess out of their lives by having as many multiples as they could just to get attention."

Jon said (on at least one show episode or more) that he was perfectly happy with he, Kate and the twin girls. He felt a family of four was a perfect size, and that they were able to handle it financially. It was Kate who wanted to try again for the jackpot of multiples, and as usual, what Kate wanted, Kate got, by hook or by crook. Jon has made many a mistake, but this wasn't his choice or his decision.

However, I agree that once the die was cast and they found Kate pregnant with sextuplets, he jumped on board and was working as hard as she to market them for financial gain. (Maybe his was more in desperation though - as in, "how the heck am I going to support 8 kids!?")

In The Neighborhood said...

"I like to think that all public schools can and will do the same."

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You're not from this area, are you? I'd like to think that, too, but I really don't have complete faith that our public schools here could do that job. I know the districts, God bless 'em, but they would not deal well with a challenge like this.

Jane in CA said...

I know every family handles this issue differently, as well as every school, but when my son was in elementary school, many of the children already had cell phones. The rule was they could not use them during school hours, or on campus. But they were allowed to bring them in their backpack for use after school, when waiting for a parent to pick them up, walking home, etc.

Mom In Lancaster County said...

"I do know that. We cut our teeth on Dickens in England. I didn't want to get too literal, I was quipping. I prefer Marley clanking his chains..Much more scary"

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I cut my teeth on Dickens here -- teeth, tongue, gums. Taught him for way too many years. Marley clanking his chains is frightening, but Kate is used to noise. I would think the Ghost of Christmas Yet To Come would scare the heck out of her. Something about that hooded faceless creature reminds me of Kate's empty soul.

Mom In Lancaster County said...

Brummygirl said...

I would like to take this opportunity to wish The Mods and everyone from GWOP, A Very Merry Christmas with family and friends.

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Right back at you, Brummy. Then there's Kate. No family, and only paid friends. How sad.
And the sheeple say that we're jellus.

Angel1 said...

In my local Sunday paper, I get the USA Today supplement. In it, was a letter from someone asking what Khate is up to. Part of the answer was that TLC is still developing "Twist of Kate" and there will be specials through 2011. I wonder if that's TLC trying to spin it, or what.

Shoshanna said...

A big end-of-year THANKS to the mods and the other posters here, without whom the top of my head would
have come off at least 1,000 times during the past
12 months!!

And let's hope that the coming new year will bring some measure of peace to those 8 kids whose mother continues to seek the spotlight at their expense.

K8. Fan. said...

I am watching J&K on netflix, the episode where they show the kids the new house.... it can't be the same woman, it just CAN'T. She doesnt look the same AT ALL.. I am almost sick watching her. Jon and the kids are exploring, and kate is cleaning. Doesn't she have PEOPLE for that?!?!? She could be out having fun with her husband and kids!!!!
LIES LIES LIES.

Jane in CA said...

First, I add my thanks to the mods who keep this place running so smoothly, day in and day out! You guys are awesome and this is such a terrific blog. Thank you Sharla and the rest of the mods/owners!

Berks has shoes said:
his comment under the jerk awards list for 2010 (Kate is #2):

"What a TOOL for listing a mom who has done nothing but get her kids off welfare while completely protecting them."

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It's opposite day in Defend-Kate-Land. I believe it was Kate who screeched to high heaven when the state wanted to end her free nurse after 12 months. That's a form of welfare, and she gladly took it and wanted to keep on taking it. It had to be pried from her grasping hands.

Not to mention every other form of freebie she could get. Maybe not technically welfare, but how soon the sheeple forget "love offerings."

Pattypanda said...

To the locals that see Kate around town, why is it that not one of you takes pics of her? Have you ever yelled over, hey Kate, your an ahole, stop abusing your kids? Kate, you're the town bitch.

Berks Has Shoes! said...

Pattypanda said...

To the locals that see Kate around town, why is it that not one of you takes pics of her? Have you ever yelled over, hey Kate, your an ahole, stop abusing your kids? Kate, you're the town bitch.

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Why would anyone stoop to her rudeness level?

NoK8 said...

While you can argue whether or not an elementary school student really needs a cell phone, I'd have to say that in the case of the twins it's a good idea. I'm sure they'd love to be able to call to their father in privacy. K8 would never allow this though.

Which reminds me, anyone else remember an early episode where she got angry at one of the twins for talking on the phone? I can understand thinking she was too young to be calling friends, but I never took it as that. It always seemed to me as another thing K8 didn't have control over.

Want her off of TV...... said...

Pantypanda, well, I look at her and sometimes I watch her, although I may be sitting in my car. Sometimes I have been in Fed Ex.

No one talks to her, she talks to no one and carrys that phone and a little hand purse. She looks miserable and seems either above all of us or just unhappy, truthfully.

I am not a street fighter and I don't intend on being arrested for a public disturbance of any kind either. There is an african american bodyguard right outside in a car.

Why would I say anything to someone who does not listen to her own children, her husband, her family?

Waste my energy, get upset?

Never thought of taking a picture of her, why? What would I want it for, she lives in my neighborhood, I was here first.

I think she enjoys the stares. In some sick way I think she does like the attention and that is why she dresses like she does.

If she would end up being another Barbara Walters or whatever in 10 years, do you ever think I will regret not having her photo? Nope, she will be in the Hall of Shame, not the Hall of Fame in my book.

Child Advocate by Trade said...

Have any of you ever wondered how you could say "the cat is meowing" and the person you are talking to you and listening to you, looking at you, responds with "did you say the cat is slowing down?"

Well that is what is would be like to say to Kate, "take care of your children you a hole" and Kate would say" My a hole is not of your business"

Shoshanna said...

TLC must be very aware of all the bad publicity it's been getting. Last night I was watching "What Not
to Wear" and there was a long commercial about how
wonderful TLC is, with a short spot highlighting each of its shows, from Cake Boss right on down the line.
Not a single mention or shot of Khate!!

Halleleujah!

Ohio Buckeye said...

"Which reminds me, anyone else remember an early episode where she got angry at one of the twins for talking on the phone? I can understand thinking she was too young to be calling friends, but I never took it as that. It always seemed to me as another thing K8 didn't have control over."

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I think I know the epi to which you refer. It was in the E Town house and one of the twins (Mady?) got a phone call from a friend and her mother did NOT like it and claimed "we are too young for such teen agerISH stuff".

IF we can believe anything we see/hear about the Gosselins (and that's a very big IF), Jon has made comments about K8G not wanting him to be with his family, claiming he should be home with HIS kids. He claimed to ask why he couldn't do BOTH simultaneously, but K8G reportedly did not want others involved in THEIR life.

Just makes me wonder... abusive spouses are often THIS level of controlling and try to isolate their spouse from even her/his own family so as to be able to maintain total control over that spouse. The profile of K8G just continues to grow uglier and uglier.

Who the H considers watching a person like K8G 'entertainment'? TLC must be as delusional as K8G if they plan any further Gosselin-a-Ganzas.

No Christmas at the Gosselin House, for sure said...

Exhausted, about the multiples and the mess of the Gosselins' children.

What I will never understand is why in this world, today with the cost of everything including education, would you try to have IVF after a set of twins? At age 28 or 29?

Why wouldn't you just try to have another child by having unprotected sex, if it happens. That makes sense to me. Enjoy sex without worry as you both want another child and if God Blessed you, fine, if not, then you have 2 beautiful, healthy girls. You both work, you can afford them a beautiful education, you can afford music lessons or one of the other arts or perhaps encourage Cara's interest in a sport.

Now, you go and have all of those eggs implanted based on what exactly? Something you made up in your head?

Nope, I don't buy it. Kate, I don't buy your story. Neither do I buy the story of working in labor delivery like you were the obstetrician, which you said on The View and Joy tried to question that, but Sherry interrupted. I don't buy anything you say to make yourself appear to be whom you may want others to think you are.

In today's economic strife with the cost of a tank of gas exploding, education being increased again, the dollar store looking darn good for a lot of things, you want multiples for what was that lie you said?

Oh, I wanted to say something about the cell phones.

Remember that the babysitter was there while Kate was in Mexico with Steve and not allowed to talk to Jon and call Jon?

That doesn't sit with me either. A stranger of 19 is babysitting 8 kids and if there is an emergency and the babysitter got sick, would the kids have a phone to call their Dad?

If the kids were at school, the twins needed their Dad, would they be able to call on the way home about being sick? Why no cell phone programmed with 3 phone #s, Mom, Dad, and 911. That is truly possible. As a matter of fact Seniors are given phones, as well as battered and abused women with one number on it #911. No charge to them, if they have an emergency, they call that one #.

You go out of the country and don't let the eldest children have access to a phone?

Mom calls only the babysitter once while gone. She doesn't talk to each kid every single day?

Of course this all stinks to the high heavens.

Child Advocate by Trade said...

I believe, from what I saw and read also, that Jon was very weak with a strong mother and a stronger wife. So who wins out? The wife who provides sex. Mother comes in second. Jon is/was too weak to stand up to Kate.

I saw that in some footage of Collin with his impacted bowel and how Jon sat on one of the beds in the furniture store and said to Collin, as Collin cried for his Mommy, "mommy isn't going to help you, she is picking out bunk beds."

Jon assisted in that treatment of Collin. He should have stood up and said, "stop the filming, we are going home, my son is sick. Kate either get in the van or stay here and get a ride home as our son is sick and I am not going to put him through any more pain.

....and out the door Jon goes with Collin.

That was in it's entirety mental and physical abuse by both parents.

No one has to like what I just wrote, but it is true and I feel Jon is trying to make up for that type of behavior.


End of Story.

Kate-go-away said...

I haven't posted in a while because I frankly just lost interest in Kate. I use to watch, then I made a decision not to watch and then I found myself not even thinking about it.

When two of the children were asked to leave school it made me think they will not be able to function in the real world - reality TV is more comfortable for them. There was a comment from a local whose child use to be friends with one of the Gosselins and it confirmed what I always thought - they pretty much are isolated from friends and social events unless the cameras are on. Kate puts them away and takes them out when it is convenient for her. It is very sad.

I will admit I did watch Sara Palin's Alaska with Kate this evening to see if Kate was as rude as I had read. She was rude, disrespectful and ungratful beyond belief! When she asked Piper if she really liked this it was so inappropriate - the look on that child's face said it all. It was putting down her family. Did you noticed Todd kept fishing until Kate left?

I think she was scared and instead of saying she was scared she acted like that.

I am not a Sara Palin fan politically speaking but if I had a chance to go camping with her and her family in that beautiful setting and bring my kids I would jump at the chance.

I thought Kate wanted to create all these wonderful memories for her children. What they will remember about Alaska is that their mom freaked out. Even at that age I would be so embarrassed if my mom treated people who were trying so hard to show me a good time like that!

Furthermore, they have learned once again that if you aren't happy with something you just make everyone miserable until you get your way. Why couldn't you have just sucked it up Kate and allow your children to have fun?

Child Advocate by Trade said...

We as parents may not like our 10, almost 11 year olds talking to a friend from school, but it is their means of communication if they are not living in row homes, within a city block or two together.

In the suburbs, country burbs, telephones are the mode of communication.

To have a phone in the den, living room where all of the conversation can be heard by a parent (phone numbers appear now on the phone when it rings, so you know who is calling and you can pick up the phone and say, yes you can talk to Mady but only for 10 minutes)...no moving the phone around but keeping it in one place (landlines are good for this)and let your child have a call from a friend once in a while, not a daily habit.

We have progressed from pay phones or running down the street to your friend's house in the "old days" but children at 10 need to start acquiring responsibility and how they handle it, well it proves how often you allow it and how that responsibility grows as they get older.

Word to the wise, you will always know what your child is doing. Do not put the phone in their rooms or the computers, not even when they are 16.

Be aware but add tiny little steps toward having a friend they can call for homework and vice versa.

Yes, I would call Kate a control freak of the highest regard. This I believe goes back to her childhood and what she may have been prevented from doing/having/being.

Did I raise children, you betcha. 4 daughters, all married with children now. I gave them inches and inches turned into feet and feet into yards. We stayed a family, the Den was noisy and so was the kitchen, but I had rules and regulations and a calendar on the refrigerator and I rotated chores.

By the way, all of my girls are a year apart. Now 33, 34, 35 and 36.

No, none of them know which were scheduled and which weren't, lol.
They just know they were all wanted, maybe not a year apart as I thought I had multiples at some point. I know I was pregnant for a long time there.

They are my daughters, my friends, and girlfriends. I have never burdened them with my marital problems. We did a successful job of talking it out in the car, out of the house. Yes, my husband an I would go "to the store" and talk about it, whatever our problem was, without losing our tempers in the house.

Oh did the girls know it? Yes, I think when we both looked at each other and said at the same time "let's go to the store" they knew.

Did I trust them with the phone while I was gone? Absolutely, you learn when you can trust, never completely as that is why they are your children and you are the parent.

I think I finally let go when they graduated from college or married after age 24 or 25 (yes, they get married later today) but I worried when they started to travel on school trips with college, oh did I worry.

That is what we parents do, we worry. If we didn't worry about them and they worried about us, then they would be the parent, not us. I exclude sickness with this.

I do not get involved in their marriages. If I say how is everything, a couple of times I heard "Oh mom, we went to the store a few times, but things seem great now" which I laughed at.

Moral of my story. Your children know what you are doing, make sure you know what your children are doing and how they feel about everything they want to talk to you about. Be there. Try not to burden them with your own problems. Like Kate with her "need $$$$" and make those Gosselin children feel they have to work to make money. I can just hear Kate making them feel guilty especially the twin daughters.

Jane in CA said...

Child Advocate - I don't disagree with your assessment, as I have often wondered myself what makes a person like Jon end up with a person like Kate. I have never so much as seen a picture of Jon's mom, and I often wonder what she is like. Clearly, from early on, there was a real rift between Kate and her MIL, and mamma was out of the picture. Rich, indulgent daddy got to hang around because he played by Kate's rules.

I think Jon was very down trodden in the relationship. Many have often pointed out that if the situation were reversed (Jon being loud, obnoxious, talking down to Kate, giving her so-called love taps, telling her she was breathing too loud, making fun of her weight, etc.)people would be outraged and calling him an abusive husband. Plainly, Kate mistreated her husband.

Kate's fans like to say he was a man-child, someone who didn't pull his weight in the relationship, as if that makes it okay to berate him, belittle him, and yes, even physically hit him. No, that is never okay. That is disgraceful behavior. If you no longer love and/or respect your spouse, then either get out of the marriage, or keep to some basic common courtesies and behaviors.

I think Jon was at a loss when the marriage was falling apart. He drank too much, sought out the company of 20-somethings, reverted to his younger behavior. It was like he just didn't know what to do, now that he no longer had someone telling him what to do 24/7. I hope he is getting therapy to understand how he ended up with a person like Kate and let her manipulate and control him for ten years of his life. If he can make some real strides in that aspect of his life, it will make him stronger, both on his own behalf and for his children.

Gina could help said...

"Kate go away" Pictures of Jon and his Momma can be found HERE

Still Hate the Bitch said...

Child Adv....the a hole theory is right on lol

katie said...

Yes I read that the twins have less friendships and I felt bad. I have girlfriends that I knew in grade school and I am 50, moved around the country but still get that phone call once in a while, still send the e mail or a card at birthday time. Would call them if I had a problem.

Oh my the grade school and high school days are the hardest times of our lives and I do think those friends stay in our lives, they may come and go, but they are around.

Gina Savem said...

"Child advocate by trade"...you are right, of course that Jon should have treated Kate with a firm hand. Her boyfriend does. The lady who was in a cabin by Kate's on Bald's head stated that Kate did not want to pose for a photo, but Steve told her she would. And she did. If Jon had listened to advice and been more firm, Kate perhaps would have changed. Jon for sure would have felt better about himself!

I said it years ago, that strong women need a strong man, and if they don't have one, they do not respect their man. A man who tries to please a hateful, complaining woman; NEVER wins. It has always been this way. Ever read Shakespeare's "Taming of the Shrew"?

Deck The Halls said...

That doesn't sit with me either. A stranger of 19 is babysitting 8 kids and if there is an emergency and the babysitter got sick, would the kids have a phone to call their Dad?

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I would certainly believe that there is a phone somewhere on the premises of the Gosselin compound! If the babysitter got sick, and I am assuming that the sitter stays at the house while Mother Gosselin is away, the sitter's cell phone isn't sick. Why couldn't the kids use her phone if they had to call their father or 911?

Maria in Rhode Island said...

Gina I always said the same thing.

He was just being told what to do, without her telling him what to do, he feel apart and acted his age which was still the age he was when married.

There is a www.huffingtonpost.com new opinion of what kate is doing to her children like unminding them. How sad.

Sly The Elf said...

Pattypanda asked: To the locals that see Kate around town, why is it that not one of you takes pics of her?

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Why would we want to? We've seen her; we know who she is; we know what she looks like. I don't know about any other locals, but I really don't want to start a Kate Gosselin scrapbook, or put a photo of her in a silver frame on the mantel!

She doesn't talk to anyone. We don't talk to her. Why stroke her ego by taking her photo so she believes that she really is a celebrity?

Maria in Rhode Island said...

Gina I always said the same thing.

He was just being told what to do, without her telling him what to do, he feel apart and acted his age which was still the age he was when married.

There is a www.huffingtonpost.com new opinion of what kate is doing to her children like unminding them from birth. How sad.

How do you throw the food served to you on the floor? I did not know that, but I do know if someone offered me and my family a camping vacation for a couple of days with the Pahlin family, well I would have been on the first boat or plane. Port a potties are not difficult. You get in and you get out and it has disenfectants in it, so no odors, no problems.

Oh my, she is not a good person to anyone, she only has respect for co hosting in luxury. The poor babies she brought into this world.

Did anyone say anything about her childhood that I missed? I do think she was repressed and then went bonkers with Jon, taking maybe some of her anger with her family on him.Like maybe her father was mean to her mother, etc., etc., etc.,

Something is responsible for her erratic behavior and it iss erratic.

h8k8 said...

A question for Kate's hometown 'neighbors':

Have you noticed any reason for Kate to have a 'bodyguard' present?

Thanks!

Moon River said...

Maria said, Port a potties are not difficult. You get in and you get out and it has disenfectants in it, so no odors, no problems.

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Kate allegedly was given a bucket with a toilet seat on top of it. This wasn't a port-a-potty!

h8k8 said...

No Christmas at the Gosselin House, for sure said...

What I will never understand is why in this world, today with the cost of everything including education, would you try to have IVF after a set of twins? At age 28 or 29?

Why wouldn't you just try to have another child by having unprotected sex, if it happens ...
Now, you go and have all of those eggs implanted based on what exactly? Something you made up in your head?

Nope, I don't buy it. Kate, I don't buy your story. Neither do I buy the story of working in labor delivery like you were the obstetrician, which you said on The View and Joy tried to question that, but Sherry interrupted. I don't buy anything you say to make yourself appear to be whom you may want others to think you are.


There are many questions about Kate's supposed infertility issues. She did not have any eggs implanted via IVF. She got pregnant using the IUI procedures where she was injected with hormones to stimulate egg production and the eggs fertilized the old fashioned way. Speculation is that she either got the hormone treatment from an unethical doctor or had sex with her husband despite medical advice after being hospitalized for overstimulated ovaries.

Yes, it's awfully suspect that someone of Kate's young age, who had not struggled with infertility before consulting the first fertility doctor to conceive the twins would then so quickly try again and conceive the sextuplets -- with a different doctor.

There was and still is speculation that Kate may have tricked Jon into having sex after being hospitalized for over-stimulated ovaries and-or that she bought the hormones for treatment on the black market, but no one knows for sure what happened except for Kate.

While much of Kate's past brings up a lot of questions, some of what you've heard is true. Kate did in fact work in labor and delivery - there has even been interviews with former co-workers of hers in the past.

maria said...

If you do not want to do the hardest job out there, work 24/7, no days off, no sick time, no vacation and work a full time job in additon to the real full time job, do not have children.

It is the hardest, most rewarding job I have ever encountered but it is indeed the hardest. That is why Mother's Day is bigger than Father's Day.

we may need the men to make the child, but generally, repeat generally we do the work and it is work.

Love my kids, wish I had a part time maid, cook, nannie too.

NahNahNaNaByeByeKate said...

Re:
Kate allegedly was given a bucket with a toilet seat on top of it. This wasn't a port-a-potty!
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Well, it is not as if she was asked to just squat behind a bush, which is what a lot of people do when camping (male and female).

winsomeone said...

Kate didn't act any differently on the Alaska trip than the one to New York, or the deep sea fishing one. The only difference, she insulted Sara Palin and her family on this one. Since she won't be running into Sarah again, this ugly PR stuff will soon die a natural death. And then Kate will continue on as always..abusing her kids on TV, and the national media not noticing or caring, as they have done in past years. This time, she just happened to set off Sarah's fans is all.

Hippie Chick said...

I need to say this: I'm a Hippie Chick through & through, the philosophy of it all. I believe in good will towards men, I hate that I can't find one good thing about Kate Gosselin, I'm a pacifist, I always try to find the good in people, I never start fights, BUT if I ever ran into Kate Gosselin, OH let me tell you...I would never lay a hand on her, but I would spout off on her until the cows come home. I have always been pretty darn good with my words, I always have a comeback, & I'm quick on my feet. I would just follow her, through that darn Target store, calling her out on every little thing that she has done, not letting her get a word in, until she leaves that red cart in the middle of the store & walks to her honking truck & drives away. What a fun day that would be!! (a girl can dream, can't she?) :) Oh, & I would HAVE to record it for prosperity...

The Blame Game said...

I think Jon went along with Khate to keep her from having a "rampage" and striking out at the kids with the big red spoon or whatever she could get her hands on.

Ohio Buckeye said...

"Kate allegedly was given a bucket with a toilet seat on top of it..."

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She even got a toilet seat for her bucket?? What's the problem, then, Katie??

For an RN, who has HAD to have had experience with bedpan duty, this seems SO not a big deal.

She knew the trip was to ALASKA. She knew it was going to involve CAMPING. So, what the H did she EXPECT?

What a spoiled, whiney brat. What an absolute KillJoy.

What hahppened to her professed, "You get what you get and you don't get upset"?????

Is it possible for a human to be any more reviled than K8G? I don't think so.

Ohio Buckeye said...

'That doesn't sit with me either. A stranger of 19 is babysitting 8 kids...'

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Anyone remember the episode where K8G was supposedly interviewing house cleaners? She was SO exacting. She was impossible to please. This was about having her HOUSE CLEANED.


So choosing a babysitter for 8 kids has lower standards than choosing a house cleaner?

Does K8G know the meaning of the term "priorities"?

Ohio Buckeye said...

@Hippie Chick 6:18 am: I fully understand your feelings. I guess I, too, would qualify as your blog name, by your definition, so we are sisters in spirit.

However, for a person like K8G, who is so pathologically in need of being The Center of Everyone's Attention, why give her the gift of your attention? Why even acknowledge her presence, muchless the strong (negative) effect she has on so many? Seems that to a whackjob like K8G, the only thing accomplished by speaking at her would be to bolster her feelings of self importance.

I write about her here because I enjoy this blog and I love to write, but I'll be dipped if I'd give K8G one SECOND of my time or one puff of breath to speak at her.

I'd rather ignore her - Disinterest in her would seem K8G's most bitter poison. She's worth neither my time nor my breath.

K8issociopath said...

Kate allegedly was given a bucket with a toilet seat on top of it. This wasn't a port-a-potty!

A bucket with a toilet seat is better then squatting when camping. What's Kate afraid of? That TLC would film her doing her business on the toilet-seat bucket like a potty chair? It might end up on youtube for pedophiles and perverts to see to help bring in more ratings and 'bidness'?

Mary23 said...

h8k8 said...
A question for Kate's hometown 'neighbors':

Have you noticed any reason for Kate to have a 'bodyguard' present?

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ABSOLUTELY NOT !!!!

She can come and go anywhere around here and no one bothers her. She doesn't have a crowd of fans around her because she isn't well liked. People just ignore her. The way she treated people who tried to help in the beginning and her all around bad attitude and unfriendliness has turned people off.

I wish she would just pack up and move to another state. Unfortunately, according to the poll taken on this blog, nobody else wants her !!!

Sobby McFibberpants said...

I've noticed alot of theories regarding who 'leaked' the info about the not-an-expulsion. I doubt there is some conspiracy, or someone dressed as a bush in the front of the school, using the 'As Seen on TV', Listen Up - hearing amplifier device to catch the scoop.
To those who wonder if it was a teacher, do you really think a teacher would risk their job, and reputation to sell a Gosselin story to The Enquirer? I doubt if any of the school staff would be willing to give Kate the satisfaction. As far as Jon and Ellen, IMO, they haved moved on from Kate's control and started their own life. Let them. The only time the 8 are photographed enjoying kid stuff is when Jon and Ellen are present. It speaks for itself.
Why not point a finger at the only one who had something to gain, and a show to plug!

The monster in the closet with the wooden spoon leaked it. It was TLC.
Not-an-expulsion was leaked so Kate would have another record that needed straightened, and TLC could get her to promote her pathetic appearance on Sarah P's Alaska.
TLC knows that Kate can only talk about herself. Without this story, there would be no crooked record to straighten, and no reason for her to sit perched upon her Today Show 'defense throne'. Kate babbles about herself. TLC has Meredith V. plug 'Alaska'. It's a win-win.

It's no coincidence that Kate was defending a story that was a MONTH old, the SAME week that the camper damper episode of Sarah's Alaska aired? Kate has nothing to offer. This is all they could come up with. The kids are collateral damage. That's showbiz...baby!

I truly feel sorry for the other students and their parents who work hard to afford a private school education for them. Being exposed to this level of nonsense is not only a distraction to their studies, but can also be overwhelming when dealing with the chaos of unruly classmates.

The other parents and teachers have tolerated this long enough, and though my heart aches for the Gosselin 8, they are a product of 'Kate's reality', which greatly differs from what most people consider 'real life reality'.

For all of the times the two worlds have clashed, Kate has become synonymous with disaster. She is the common denominator in all of the destruction due to her delusional sense of importance. Blech.

Thank You Moderators! Happy Holidays to all and I still wish you a Gosselin free New Year(same thing I wished here last year) :)

Donna said...

forget a bodyguard, Kate needs a Life Coach.

K8. Fan. said...

This is what kills me about the whole babysitter story.
Kate is 35, and birthed and "raised" these 8 kids, yet she needs at least one helper specifically for the kids, plus a housekeeper/cook. Clearly she can't and doesn't provide their care by herself. And if asked why, it's because she "can't" it takes more than one person to care for 8 kids. Even when Jon was home alone with the kids, he had a helper.
Then she leaves the kids alone with ONE babysitter?!?! If SHE CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THEM ALONE WHY WOULD SHE THINK A 19 YEAR OLD COULD DO THE JOB ALONE?!?!?!? That's the thing that's been bothering me about this story. Unless the 2 kids' "teacher" is just another nanny. But I was under the impression that she was their "teacher" which would mean she is only there 6 hours a day 5 days a week. Also, I don't think the kids had been expelled yet when she went to Cabo. But idk for sure.

Brummygirl said...

Soby McFibberpants said:

The monster in the closet with the wooden spoon leaked it. It was TLC.
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Bingo!!! This is the most plausible explanation to date. Who had all this to gain? T.L.C. and Kate plugging her scripted lying appearance on t.v.

Brummygirl said...

Mary 23 said:
ABSOLUTELY NOT !!!!

She can come and go anywhere around here and no one bothers her. She doesn't have a crowd of fans around her because she isn't well liked. People just ignore her.
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I find it comical to think of Kate strutting around on stilts with a bodyguard in tow, nose in the air and no one notices or cares.. ha ha ha...so goes the life of the delusional!!!

Alaskan said...

A bucket with a lid is a porta potty. http://www.cabelas.com/product/Camping/Camp-Essentials/Showers-Toilets-Accessories%7C/pc/104795280/c/104709780/sc/104569380/Luggable-Loo-Toilet-Seat-and-Bucket/714054.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fcamping-camp-essentials-showers-toilets-accessories%2F_%2FN-1100689%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104569380
That is just one. You put a Clean white trash bag in every few uses. It is clean, far more clean then any mall bathroom. It was not like she was asked to use a old fashioned out house complete with beetle infested wood and smells from ... well down below. It was cold this summer, but not that bad. Bear fears had been hyped to the extreme.

My mom had 10, count um 10 kids. We came into this world during the early 40s to the late 50s some of us less then one year apart. No pampers thank you, mom had to use cloth diapers. No running water, no washing machine, no local supermarket. Yet she was more then able to not only take care of us but to teach us how to be humans. So many hateful things I could say but my Mother raised me better.

The camp was clean. The food was top notch and the woman was ungrateful.

Gina Savem said...

I haven't heard anything. Is Kate still a commentator for one of the gossip shows, on "Skating with the Stars"?

Ohio Buckeye said...

"Kate allegedly was given a bucket with a toilet seat on top of it. This wasn't a port-a-potty!

A bucket with a toilet seat is better then squatting when camping. What's Kate afraid of? That TLC would film her doing her business on the toilet-seat bucket like a potty chair?"

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and IF they had done so, would this have been any more of an invasion of K8G's privacy than her showing the 'tups on their potty seat and then proudly showing their excrement to the camera?

The only difference here is that the poor kids had no say in what was filmed, while their mother was able to demand privacy and a better bathroom facility.

Berks Has Shoes! said...

I wish she would just pack up and move to another state. Unfortunately, according to the poll taken on this blog, nobody else wants her !!!

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LOL!! You should say, "Nobody wants her."
"Nobody ELSE wants her" implies that we (PA) are the only ones who do!

Jane in California said...

Moon River said:
Kate allegedly was given a bucket with a toilet seat on top of it. This wasn't a port-a-potty!
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And being Kate, Queen of the World in her own mind, this was not quite the throne she believes she deserves. LOL.

Seriously, if you go camping out in the wilderness, a bucket with a toilet seat on top is actually living large. Most of the time, you get to go dig a hole in the dirt, squat and go. Maybe you get some leaves to dry off. It's primitive, which is why I only go camping rarely and then only to campgrounds that have bathrooms.

By her age, Kate should know her own limitations. If she wasn't going to be able to deal with a little rain, some 50 degree weather, and rural camping, then she could have declined to do the crossover. Or, if she is under contract to do so, for lots and lots of money, she could have been a professional, put a phony smile on, and dealt with it. Every working person knows that as employees, we don't really get to dictate what portion of our jobs we will do and which we won't.

Kate signed a contract with TLC to portray a certain persona on television. She was unable to honor that contract, because she's a spoiled diva.

Hippie Chick said...

Ohio Buckeye said...
@Hippie Chick 6:18 am: I fully understand your feelings. I guess I, too, would qualify as your blog name, by your definition, so we are sisters in spirit.

That made my day. Thank you. :)

(I would still like to take her down a peg...lol)

Amy too said...

I don't think it is the fans that scare Katie, it is the stalkers, the people who write her letters that Steve "protects her from" is what I think Steve said "she doesn't know the things that appear on line or the mail"

Well, I don't think too many stalkers send a hand written letter, with a stamp, etc., to her, do you? I mean your dna is on the envelope when you lick the flap.

I believe TLC makes up these things. Of course, I do think the Gosselin 6 attract some weirdness as twins often attract weirdos too. Especially twin girls. Some perverts are weirder.

Would I like to tell Kate a piece of my mind? No. I think she is a liar, a professional liar that doesn't hear anything.

Like someone said "the cat meows" and you hear "oh, so the cat is slow" that is the difference in sane and insane about her royal hiney.

Would have been a great shot of her on a bucket with a toilet seat lid though.

Was she pacing back and forth cause she had to "go" and didn't?

She is weird, rude, a liar, self possessed and damn ugly.

Take away the botox, the creams, the plastic surgery and let the hair go back to natural and guess what you get?

Uglier Kate. Old Mt. Joy Kate with no chin, whonky eye and lazy as can be.

Make my Christmas TLC, take her off of the air forever.

Amy2 said...

Hippie Chick Said..
I'd rather ignore her - Disinterest in her would seem K8G's most bitter poison. She's worth neither my time nor my breath.
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Hippie Chick you are so right.
I recall when OJ Simpson was on trial for killing his wife and her friend. Everywhere you turned there was media coverage of OJ. He was in his element. Then he was found not guilty and there was less and less media. Today he sits in prison in the Las Vegas and the media barely (if that) even writes about him. OJ was the biggest narcissist (sp?) on the planet IMO. He finally got his punishment..no media.

Let me be clear no way am I comparing what OJ did to what Kate is doing to her children. I am only pointing out that both are major narcissts. They crave the attention that the media provides. Take that away they're lost.

Kate will do whatever she has to to create media attention. IMO she's not above leaking stories that are not true (hockey game anyone?) or calling her favorate (dare I say only) pap so he can follow her to get the shots of her indignation of being photographed.

Kate is only the current favour of the month. Eventually (goodness knows when though) she will be out of the media and people will say...Kate who?

As like OJ she will have damaged many many people in her quest for fame and glory.

The Blame Game said...

I watched that again and she said something that was just so off the wall - how are you going to make sandwiches for 8 kids on your arm? They were eating smores and hamburgers and hotdogs hot off the fire. Those poor kids live off those freaking sandwiches even where there is hot food available to them.

Another thing I noticed that I missed the first time - what mother feels compelled to announce that she would shoot a gun to save her kids from the bears. Is that not a given? Does anyone believe that she would put herself between a bear and her kids - I don't. I think she would squeel and run with the kids trying to keep up behind her. I was even more disgusted with her the second time I watched than the first and this tells me that more and more people will do same. I hope they run it every week from here on out.

Never was it so clear what a horrible mother she is than she was in the arena with someone who really would shoot a bear to save her kids. Who has the gun? It is with me she said.

Shoka's Understudy said...

I was watching the Geico commercial today and the old psychologist guy that is fussing on the guy who is on the couch crying and whining.

He reminded me of Sarah's dad, favors him a little, and when I thought of that and saw him hollering, Why don't you go back to mamby pamby land you Jackwagon, I imagined he was Mr. Palin telling kate to go back to mamby pamby land you Jackwagon!

Thank you, Mr. Palin for speaking your mind about what you saw and witnessed.

Shoka's Understudy said...

I read the post about kate going to the gas station pumping gas and the AABG in a car following her.

There is no way kate is paying for that protection. TLC is paying for it to protect their Queen Heifer.

The only reason I could think of that if kate WAS paying would be the Chris is only a pink iphone call away and she gets a cut out of it to help pay for the protection.

Also about how it got out about Jon and kate both getting calls from angry parents. It could of been anybody. Jon and Ellen could of been in a store or out to eat, got a call and someone could of overheard the conversation.

Moon River said...

Alaskan said...

A bucket with a lid is a porta potty.

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A rose by any other name! LOL!! I was responding to someone who thought that these potties were ones that you go in and out of, and had disinfectant and no odors -- the kind they have had carnivals and concerts and construction sites, and this wasn't THAT kind of port-a-potty!

K8STFU said...

Another thing I noticed that I missed the first time - what mother feels compelled to announce that she would shoot a gun to save her kids from the bears. Is that not a given?

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It's the same thing as K8 feeling the need to "write" love letters to her children in her last "book".

It's the same thing as K8 always feeling the need to declare how everything she does is for the kids.

To most parents, these things are givens.

Katykat said...

Did anyone see that the next Palin episode is Sarah waiting tables? I bet Kate is TICKED about that seeing as how her episode of waiting tables on Twist of Kate is set to air the 10th of Never.

Can't See Sheep said...

Kate allegedly was given a bucket with a toilet seat on top of it. This wasn't a port-a-potty!
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Actually k8 was being paid $250,000 for that episode, I think she could have just sucked it up it for a day or two. It's not like they handed her some leaves & sent her behind a bush.


Ohio Buckeye, LMAO!!! too bad the kids weren't able to demand a better bathroom facility, or a better mother.

You're also right about ignoring her. That's the best thing that can be done with people like k8. Nothing makes as much impact as outright ignoring people like her, it's unbearable to a narcissist & hits home harder than anything you could ever say. It's something they are unable to ignore.

Moon River said...

Actually k8 was being paid $250,000 for that episode, I think she could have just sucked it up it for a day or two. It's not like they handed her some leaves & sent her behind a bush.

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Heck, for only a thousand dollars I would have been okay behind a bush with some leaves!!
And I most definitely am not an outdoorsy person!

Incredible Hulk said...

I watched that again and she said something that was just so off the wall - how are you going to make sandwiches for 8 kids on your arm?

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I knew that Kate had developed some strong muscles in her arms, but I didn't know they were strong enough to hold eight kids on her arm!

h8k8 said...

Mary 23 said:
ABSOLUTELY NOT !!!!

She can come and go anywhere around here and no one bothers her. She doesn't have a crowd of fans around her because she isn't well liked. People just ignore her.


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Thanks Mary.

I have another question for those who are hometown 'neighbors' of Kate's.

With the recent reports of a car with a 'bodyguard' following behind Kate and Chris the pap; has there ALWAYS been a car following her (or is this new) and does the 'bodyguard' ever get out when she goes into a store or do they stay in their vehicle and wait for her?

Thanks!

Shoka's Understudy said...

About the comment about the kids on her arm. She probably meant that, how can she fix 8 sandwiches with 8 kids at arm's length.

But, we know kate. Another hint that she can do it all. Even though the food was fixed by someone else and packed and given
to her.

It would of been wonderful when kate started up the beefing that
PurseBoy would of talked her into leaving and leaving the kids to stay for a day or 2 and she could of came back and got them. They could easily edited her to make her look like she had been there the whole time.

The kids would of had a much needed break from kates mad, mad, mad world.

Jane in California said...

how are you going to make sandwiches for 8 kids on your arm?
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Wait a minute Kate. I don't see any problem here, considering that you only give each child 1/4 of a sandwich to begin with. Surely two sandwiches can be fit on your arm? LOL

And if you wait until they are hard and stale, they're stackable too!

so sick of her said...

You, know Kate said, a lot of comments that did not make sense, on Palins show. In fact some of those comments, made her sound like a teenager. Like , at the Bear class: "oh, I would just die" what adult says stupid stuff like that. I would say an adult would say: "I would run or stay still and pray". Just like under the tent: "this is cruel and unusual punishment" for who Kate you? The only ones who got cruel and unusual punishment was your kids and disrepect for the who Palin family. I read somewhere, they were taking a poll of: would you go camping with the Palins or would you do a Kate or something on that lines. I think it was 50-50. I would go camping with Palins family: cause they are, what I would call seasoned campers, they know what they are doing. To pull a Kate never!

readerlady said...

I keep seeing statements like "Jon's weak. Jon needed to be strong with Khate. Jon should have done this, that or the other". The reality is that Khate latched on to Jon for a reason. He was barely out of his teens when she got her claws into him. By what I've seen and heard, he was immature; spoiled; a bit reckless; unfocused; a genial, sociable, easygoing person; a follower, not a leader; not especially bright - although I don't think Jon is anywhere as near as stupid as the sheeple like to paint him, he's certainly no Phi Beta Kappa either. In short, he was like many of us are at 20. Tincture of time usually corrects that. Khate knew what she was doing when she homed in on him. She never would have gone for someone strong enough to stand up to her. She needed someone she could control. She admitted on one of the early shows that Jon didn't know she wasn't a natural blonde until after they were married. What else did she lie about? He was smitten at first, and then I think he was genuinely in love with her. We will never know the person Jon would have grown to be, because Khate shaped him into someone of her own creation. The point is, he is trying to become a different person. He's trying to become the person who protects and cares for his children. We need, for the kids' sakes, to concentrate on that and to support his efforts as much as we possibly can. Is he blameless in all this? No, absolutely not. Should he be given a pass? Again, no. Should he be allowed to grow and change and make amends for his wrongs? Absolutely. At least he has the courage and the wisdom to see that things need to be changed. I suspect, I think, I hope - that the reason he didn't stand up to Khate more (as in - why didn't he take Colin home and leave Khate at the bed store when Colin was suffering) is because he knew that she would take it out on the children. I also think that's the thing - or really - the 8 things - she holds over him in order to continue getting her way. The kids' safety and well-being.

On a slightly off-topic note - Columbus, Ohio had it's first set of sextuplets born this summer. The Sunday paper had an article about the parents taking boxes of disposable diapers, a stroller and other baby items to a YMCA this past week, to be given to families in need. In the article, the mother was quoted as saying that as soon as the babies outgrew anything, you could bet that they would donate the things to a shelter or some family in need. This is a couple who is struggling - he's starting a new business and she had to quit her job to stay home with the babies. What a contrast to Khate's attitude.

The Blame Game said...

I couldn't believe that I missed that the fist time about the making sandwiches on her arm when all the kids were eating hotdogs and hamburgers and smores hot off the fire. How dumb can you get and why did she want out of there so bad that she had to lie. I do believe that was a half sandwich in a baggy that she threw down. Certifiable. The more you watch it the more you see.

Ohio Buckeye said...

@Can'tSeeSheep: 'You're also right about ignoring her. That's the best thing that can be done with people like k8. Nothing makes as much impact as outright ignoring people like her, it's unbearable to a narcissist & hits home harder than anything you could ever say. It's something they are unable to ignore.'

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Sheep, spoken like a person who has had some real experience with a narcissist. I share that experience and FULLY agree with your take.

A narcissist hears best TWO things: 1) Compliments directed at them, their appearance, their accomplishments and 2) Being ignored.

Everything else pretty much seems to sound like 'blah blah blah' to the narcissist. they are disinterested in anyone else.

If you really want to speak to a narcissist, and especially if you want them to HEAR your negative critique of them, what narcissists hear best is being ignored. THAT registers. And it registers as an affront to their almighty ego, which is intolerable to this personality.

So, I have my present for K8G this year. All are welcome to join me in donating this gift to Our Little Obstinate One. Ready? Sing it with me now:

Dear K8:
Apathy.
Apathy.
That's for Thee.
Apathy.

Pass the remote, please. I've removed TLC from my "favorites' listing, so it will happily skip right over TLC without making me endure the likes of K8G or Silly Sarah. Or the lady who eats toilet paper. Or the one who must sleep with her hair dryer - two more gems being served up soon by that cutting edge educational channel, TLC.

BerksPa said...

With the recent reports of a car with a 'bodyguard' following behind Kate and Chris the pap; has there ALWAYS been a car following her (or is this new) and does the 'bodyguard' ever get out when she goes into a store or do they stay in their vehicle and wait for her?

I have never seen a car 'trailing' the van in the morning when I've seen her drop off the children.

However, I have seen her parked outside the grocery store not near the entrance and get on her phone and about 5 minutes later Chris shows up.

When I see her out shopping NO ONE not one person talks with her. She goes about her business tossing stuff in the cart and moving on her way. She's alone with no body guard.

I have noticed tho that when she is all 'dolled up' and gets those UPS or Shopping 'Chris' shots (can't call it paparazzi because he's the only one around who cares to take her picture) it always corresponds with a couch interview she has just done. If you go back and check the pictures and match them with her outfit you'll notice it as well.

Leigh Ann said...

I read somewhere, they were taking a poll of: would you go camping with the Palins or would you do a Kate or something on that lines. I think it was 50-50.
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There is an in-between. I'm a weather wimp and I admit it. I would have been cold, too. But I would have gone into the tent and come out to help build the fire and get warm. It's not that she was cold, it's not that she didn't participate (I probably would have just sat and watched the kids), it was the whining and complaining that was so bad. A better poll would be "You're camping and it's cold and wet. Do you stand around and whine or do you make the best of it and try to get warm?" I don't think many people would do all that whining.

Fill me in... said...

Another thing I noticed that I missed the first time - what mother feels compelled to announce that she would shoot a gun to save her kids from the bears. Is that not a given? Does anyone believe that she would put herself between a bear and her kids - I don't. I think she would squeel and run with the kids trying to keep up behind her.

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My memory is fuzzy here...there was an episode where they were in a boat somewhere.

Wasn't there an alligator hissing and didn't she whirl around in the boat or something to get away.

Seems like she was protecting KATE and didn't even remember she had kids. Can someone help me here?

Ohio Buckeye said...

Remember the incident when Mady was asking for a drink of water prior to another one of their family interviews? When the bottle of water was handed over by the staff, K8G took her swig but gave none to Mady or any of the other kids.

I'm thinking Mady had every right to stand there and loudly say, "These are NOT ideal conditions!" though her mom continues to blather on about the wonderful childhood she (and she alone) is gifting to her children.

mama mia said...

I think if I lived near Kate I'd not only take her picture, I'd make up flyers and circulate them in the neighbourhood with "CHILD ABUSER" scrawled across her low cut tank top.
She is vile.

Ham-On-Arm Sandwich said...

About the comment about the kids on her arm. She probably meant that, how can she fix 8 sandwiches with 8 kids at arm's length.

She makes sandwiches at home at home with the kids at arm's length. She was complaining that there was no table and no utentils. I thought she meant she was going to put the bread on her arm (to use as a "table") to make the sandwiches because there was no surface on which to make them.

BoxARox said...

I can't find the SP /KG show on YouTube. I was breaking down and planned on watching but: no dice. I did, however, peruse a couple of YouTube things re. K8. One was some epi of just her and the twins, flying to AK. The girls had light blue coats on. Well they "stopped" at/on some glacier, and I noticed K8 acting ...weird..wait let me rephrase that: acting not as nasty as usual and almost flirty. At first I thought she was being semi-flirty w/the pilot (who seemed real nice). Then there was a snowball fight and I noticed some snowballs flying from OFF-camera to the girls, and vice versa. I THOUGHT I caught a glimpse of...Purseboy! You know: **guarding Kate against ALL of the rabid public that you typically find up there on a glacier in AK** Well, BINGO! I heard K8 mention her Beloved's name, and caught a glimpse of SilverHair himself. I guess playing with his future stepchildren. OH I just KNEW there had to be an explanation! Yep; that is when K8 acts even remotely "nice", or is laughing. Look for Purseboy.

Becca said...

What about when she said "sorry I'm so miserable, but I mean somebody's gotta be"(to the camera) I thought that was an odd thing to say, why not try to just be happy, she is just such a sourpuss.

twins241 said...

Apparently Katie Irene and the kids are at the hockey game tonight and being filmed.

zoey said...

any one else find it odd that Kate let the children rip the tongue out of the bear rug's mouth?
i thought this was so rude. destruction of property and just plain rude.
i know Todd said it was fine (after the fact) and that the tongue was already removable, but, you bet your ass that when my toddler is at other peoples house, regardless of if they say "oh thats ok" we respect all their items and do not jump on their stuff.

twins241 said...

you can see pic here

http://www.the700level.com/2010/12/kate-gosselin-ian-laperriere.html#more

Ohio Buckeye said...

@FillMeIn: I didn't see an alligator episode, so, sorry that I can't help you with that one.

But I do remember an early episode when Jon was still in the picture. They went somewhere (a farm?) and Jon was trying to flag down the truck or the farm tram so as to catch a ride back to the car for the kids.

K8G absolutely DRAGGED those kids, who were tiny then, and then made a big deal about how SHE saved the day by trying to flag down the truck/farm tram so the kids could ride back to the parking lot.

It was as you describe: as if she had no awareness that her little ones with their short little legs were unable to keep up with their screaming, rushing mother.

It is always and only: all about K8.

Leigh Ann said...

any one else find it odd that Kate let the children rip the tongue out of the bear rug's mouth?
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I don't think they ripped it out. I think they wiggled it and it came out because it wasn't attached. I think Kate should have said something as soon as she saw the tongue was out, but I didn't get the impression it took any effort to get it out. I know I've just barely touched something and it just fell apart because it was loose to begin with.

Budget Confidential said...

BLAST FROM THE PAST - This video was from about two years ago, i think. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpW4uaGyLnI&feature=fvw

Two things of note:

First, watch at around 0:50. One of the little girls (I think Alexis) is acting up. Kate grabs her arm and there is instant obedience. What i find shocking, though, is that it is obvious Kate grabbed that little girl's arm HARD. And you can tell by the way the tub reacted that she knew Kate meant business. Obviously not the first time this had happened.

Second, watch around 3:05 for a good laugh. :)

Disgusted said...

Merry Christmas, Gosselin kids!! Your gift to mommy is filming on your vacation so she can continue to pamper herself!

Leigh Ann said...

I have noticed tho that when she is all 'dolled up' and gets those UPS or Shopping 'Chris' shots (can't call it paparazzi because he's the only one around who cares to take her picture)
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*whisper, whisper* The singular of paparazzi is paparazzo so you could call him that.

He must be getting paid pretty good for those pictures. I mean, there's more exciting places and bigger stars (or well, actually, just stars) out there to photograph.

The Blame Game said...

That is the way I took it also that she was going to have to use her arm as a surface for making 8 sandwiches because there was not table. What sandwiches? They didn't need any fricking sandwiches. And like you said how many times do the kids ever get a whole sandwich? It was a bizarre thing to say under the circumstances.

No Christmas at the Gosselin House, for sure said...

Oh yes, I have seen kate in that van with someone sitting next to her in the front seat. I have also seen the car following Kate in her car or the mega van.

We have witnessed her sitting in her car, on the phone, hangs up, wait for a few minutes or so, most I saw was a 15 min wait, the young guy pulls up, she gets out of the car and presto. You have another tlc posted "kate runs errands in Reading" thing. She is all dolled up but rarely do you see her, no makeup, no hair done.

We did see her last Thursday with the red face and neck and hat on her head (not artic temps) as she had no gloves on and she was picking up the kids.

"hi, it is I, your control agent picking you up, Aaden stop talking to me, do you understand, stop it. I am being photographed, get your asses in this van, my face is burning."

Certifiable said...

I kinda thought that somebody's gotta be was a snark on Sarah for being so upbeat and positive.

She is a worthless mother said...

I don't know if she is filming, but I wouldn't doubt that she dragged those kids out to work as what is Christmas in that house? More toys, some clothes and all the kids fighting with each other.

"A sadder Christmas, after all Steve is at home in MD with his plain wife and I'm not plain, I'm pretty Katie Irene"

Certifiable said...

Oh and I wonder if they are cut to shut the cameras off at 10 as is mandated, supposedly, but when have they ever abided by the work permits. Why should they, they are obviously not enforced.

Amy too said...

Someone mentioned Jon trying now. Yes, I think he is trying. Is it because TLC has him tied up in that contract and he has no choice? Is it because he really wants to be a mature father. I choose to believe he wants the best for his kids, I do.

Just wish he didn't have his photo on his girlfriend's advice site, that still bothers me. He has to stop posing with these women and having those pics on the web.

Stay out of the limelight. Why is Ellen doing this advice column? I don't trust it.

Berks Has Shoes! said...

mama mia said...

I think if I lived near Kate I'd not only take her picture, I'd make up flyers and circulate them in the neighbourhood with "CHILD ABUSER" scrawled across her low cut tank top.
She is vile.

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...and then you'd get ready to be hit with a libel suit! Would it be worth it, when everyone in town already knows this?

Ohio Buckeye said...

A hockey game? Isn't her highness afraid of being 'cold to the bone' at the ice rink?

Funny to think her self description of her lack of physical well being in Alaska is also the perfect description of her heartless/soullessness.

Henry(not my real name) said...

I wish to say something in Jon's behalf.

He is immature, certainly he was in letting her lead him down the lane.

When someone said that Kate said"John didn't know I wasn't a blond until after we were married" that is a lie as they lived together.

Jon is not stupid, he did not cheat on Kate. They had no marital relationship for close to 2 years before he walked out the door. She ran to the lawyer that very day she told him "not to let the door hit him in the butt" Oh yes she did.

She has thrown things at him and hurt him, he has had black eyes, scratches on his neck. She was brutal with him in addition to hitting him on TV. She made a fool of him around everyone including visitors.

He attended all the twins' parent teacher meetings, not kate, never kate.

He read to the kids, she never did, never.

He did not want to stay home but they were locked into that contract and TLC wanted him at home. He begged them to let him go to work. The longer he was at home with her, the worse the marriage got.

She corrected him over and over, his speech, his way of sitting, his weight. All on camera.

I do know that he went a little crazy when she kicked him out but not anything like what has been reported.

Hailey Glassman has so many problems and she pretended to care about him. She wanted a reality show and tried to sell one to TLC for her and Jon. He wanted nothing to do with it.

Well I think I said enough other than that he never lied, never. Everytime he tried to tell the public about her and TLC, we saw something negative put in the media about him. They made up things.

He did not get drunk, he really doesn't drink. He wanted a family and he wanted his family life.

He feels better now about his relationship with his kids, but he knows that she is still going to "try to get him with something else"

Pray for him as he really wants those kids to have a good life and he feels that they are slipping away from that. May never know anything about normal.

His mother is a good woman and she wanted nothing to do with that show. She did not like Kate's treatment of her son or that Kate kept her from seeing the twins, she was so close to them. Now she sees them.

Amy too said...

Budget Confidential, that was precious. Kate, the Mom, at her best. She always reachs, raises her hands, looks at those kids like she is going to beat them black and blue.

I often watch Collin, as he is the one that Cara often pays more attention to, like a little mother. It is not easy to touch him though. I do notice that. Wonder why.

Well, Confidential, thanks for the laugh, kind of .

noh84k8 said...

BoxARox - My youtube account got deleted for too many copyright infringements (TLC finally started flagging my videos). I do plan on putting the videos back up - particularly Alaska because people need to see that. But the site may end up being more archival in nature. I think the name next time will be noh84k8

Kart Hanger said...

I just wanted to point out that I thought that it was very interesting that on Sarah P.'s Alaska that Sarah was serving the customers in the restuarant. What struck me as interesting was that was the same thing Kart was supposed to be doing for her new show. What a co-winky-dink! Now suddenly Sarah is doing it instead. Things that make you go hmmmm....

Sooverit said...

KatyKat said "I bet Kate is TICKED about that seeing as how her episode of waiting tables on Twist of Kate is set to air the 10th of Never."
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KatyKat - too funny! LOL

Sooverit said...

Shoka's Understudy said...

I was watching the Geico commercial today and the old psychologist guy that is fussing on the guy who is on the couch crying and whining.

He reminded me of Sarah's dad, favors him a little, and when I thought of that and saw him hollering, Why don't you go back to mamby pamby land you Jackwagon, I imagined he was Mr. Palin telling kate to go back to mamby pamby land you Jackwagon!
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Shoka's Understudy -
I laugh every time I see that commercial! I don't know what the hell a "jackwagon" is, but that's the new joke around our house - as in, "OK - who's the jackwagon that left the milk on the counter?" (Said with lighthearted humor, of course! Not in a mean way - like Kate would say it.)

Berks Has Shoes! said...

Ohio Buckeye said...

A hockey game? Isn't her highness afraid of being 'cold to the bone' at the ice rink?

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They went to the game tonight and she and the kids had a suite, of course...a nice, warm, full-service suite.

so sick of her said...

Also, I read at Werny Gals site that Kate & kids filmed at the Liberty Bell, besides the Hockey game. Geez, the poor kids can't even have a Xmas vacation. The one article I read called Kate a Kate monster. I like KILLJOY KATE! Nothing like trying to up-one Jon and ruin Xmas. I wonder how many filming they are gonna do before the kids go back on Jan 3rd. IIt also said at Werny gal, like I read, K8 is contract for another year. That selfist etc(don't even have words for her)Those poor kids.

Brummygirl said...

Kate's Christmas List:

On the first day of Christmas, K8 demanded this…. A piece of freebie jewellery.

On the second day of Christmas K8 demanded this….. Two pairs of hooker heels and a piece of freebie jewellery.

On the third day of Christmas K8 demanded this…… Three trips abroad, two pairs of hooker heels and a freebie piece of jewellery.

On the fourth day of Christmas K8 demanded this…… Four magic bras, three trips abroad, two pairs of hooker heels and a freebie piece of jewellery.

On the fifth day of Christmas K8 demanded this…. Five poles to dance on, four magic bras, three trips abroad, two pairs of hooker heels and a freebie piece of jewellery.

On the sixth day of Christmas K8 demanded this…. Six sextuplet necklaces, five poles to dance on, four magic bras, three trips abroad, two pairs of hooker heels and a freebie piece of jewellery.

On the Seventh day of Christmas K8 demanded this…. Seven more episodes, six sextuplet necklaces, five poles to dance on, four magic bras, three trips abroad, two pairs of hooker heels and a freebie piece of jewellery.

On the eight day of Christmas K8 demanded this…..Eight kids a filming , seven more episodes, six sextuplet necklaces, five poles to dance on, four magic bras, three trips abroad, two pairs of hooker heels and a freebie piece of jewellery.

On the ninth day of Christmas K8 demanded this…. Nine suits against Jon, Eight kids a filming, seven more episodes, six sextuplet necklaces, five poles to dance on, four magic bras, three trips abroad, two pairs of hooker heels and a freebie piece of jewellery.

On the tenth day of Christmas K8 demanded this….. Ten nights with purseboy, nine suits against Jon, Eight kids a filming, seven more episodes, six sextuplet necklaces, five poles to dance on, four magic bras, three trips abroad, two pairs of hooker heels and a freebie piece of jewellery.

On the eleventh day of Christmas K8demanded this…. Eleven tanning coupons, ten nights with purseboy, nine suits against Jon, eight kids a filming, seven more episodes, six sextuplet necklaces, five poles to dance on, four magic bras, three trips abroad, two pairs of hooker heels and a freebie piece of jewellery.

On the twelfth day of Christmas K8 demanded this….. Twelve Sheeple Baa-ing, eleven tanning coupons, ten nights with purseboy, nine suits against Jon, eight kids a filming, seven more episodes, six sextuplet necklaces, five poles to dance on, four magic bras, three trips abroad, two pairs of hooker heels and a freebie piece of jewellery.

Then came Christmas Day and all that was in her stocking was a moose hot dog and purseboy!!!

Can't See Sheep said...

Ohio Buckeye, you hit the heart of the issue while being a hoot at the same time. I will certainly be joining you. The best thing we can do is turn a deaf ear to the shrieking PA shrew & hope it goes the way of the dodo.

Exactly Becca, why does someone have to be miserable, that makes no sense, no one has to be miserable. I believe it could have been the most beautiful day Alaska had ever had in it's entire history & k8 would have found something to pitch a fit over & leave. I think she decided early on that she wouldn't be staying & that's all there was to it. Short of rolling in a 5 star resort there was no way she was staying that day come hell or high water.

silimom said...

No Christmas said...
"Oh yes, I have seen kate in that van with someone sitting next to her in the front seat. I have also seen the car following Kate in her car or the mega van.

We have witnessed her sitting in her car, on the phone, hangs up, wait for a few minutes or so, most I saw was a 15 min wait, the young guy pulls up, she gets out of the car and presto. You have another tlc posted "kate runs errands in Reading" thing. She is all dolled up but rarely do you see her, no makeup, no hair done."

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Okay, then if you see this, take out your cell phone and make a video. Then post it up on youtube. There is nothing illegal about it, to the best of my knowledge. TLC may send you a letter, if they do, hire an attorney to fire back a letter informing them of their error and that you have not broken the law.

I understand that there are some people allegedly in the know who post anonymously about the goings on behind the scenes, and I understand their reluctance to come forward. However, everyday citizens of Reading and Wernersville who are as sick of her as they claim to be should put their money where their mouth is and show to the world that there is not a horde of paps, there's 1, count 'em ONE, pap and Kate is in cahoots with him.

I'd like to see a YouTube channel entitled "Kate Gosselin's Reality - The Realest Reality Show on YouTube". And then have footage of Kate at different locations around Reading calling Chris and setting up these meetings.

Reading, Wernersville, Elizabethtown, etc. - you have the ability to show the world who this woman truly is. Are you willing to rise to the challenge?

Kartie Dearest said...

I would like to know if KG takes her kids out for fun without cameras around.

Wait...I know the answer: no

Kartie Dearest said...

The 5 worst shows of television by Entertainment Weekly's Jeff Tucker


5.Jillian Michael's Losin' It

4.Pretty Little Liars

3.Undercover Boss

2.America's Got Talent

(drumroll....)

1.Kate Plus 8

http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20452083_20891438,00.html

Winter Solstice said...

Then came Christmas Day and all that was in her stocking was a moose hot dog and purseboy!!!

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Wasn't that all she really ever wanted anyway -- PURSEBOY -- so she's a happy camper?

Kate the Grinch said...

Only the best for Kate Gosselin, a nice warm box seat with food, private restroom. No mingling with the commoners.

Dr. G. said...

I fear that she has enough name/face recognition at this time to make a living in the media/entertainment world for quite some time yet. She appears to get a lot of support from somewhere, including I would assume mood stabilizing, antidepressant and/or antianxiety medication. Some of the changes in her "look" (facial puffiness, blank expression, etc.)since the divorce are possibly attributable to psychoactive medications. I do believe that an unstable lifestyle, such as Kate's, will lead to unfortunate consequences that could take various forms. She is the one who strikes me as being "off the path" (to health and happiness), not the two apparently troubled children.
I am fascinated and horrified by the saga of the Gosselin children in reality TV land.
Has anyone thought of asking the relevant professional organizations such as the American Psychiatric Association, American Society of Pediatrics, American Psychological Association, etc., to prepare a position statement on children in reality TV? I am a life member of one of these organizations, but I have not heard any "official" comments. As an individual, I have emailed Rep. Murt in support of his legislation. As a licensed professional (now retired), I know that all professionals (and this would include doctors, teachers, counselors, etc.) have to be careful what they say on blogs such as this, as they can apparently be held responsible if their stements/comments can be interpreted to be libelous, or otherwise subject to legal action.
Keep up the good work!

Gosselin8ComeFirst said...

Kartie Dearest said...
The 5 worst shows of television by Entertainment Weekly's Jeff Tucker


5.Jillian Michael's Losin' It

4.Pretty Little Liars

3.Undercover Boss

2.America's Got Talent

(drumroll....)

1.Kate Plus 8
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She's hanging with a pretty pathetic crowd. And yet got the coveted number 1... Guess that makes her the most pathetic of the pathetic...Congratulations Kate.

Hippie Chick said...

Amy2 said...
Hippie Chick Said..
I'd rather ignore her - Disinterest in her would seem K8G's most bitter poison. She's worth neither my time nor my breath.

Actually, I'm the one who said I wanted to tell her off....LOL Ohio Buckeye said the above statement. :) Just to clear things up.

Gosselin8ComeFirst said...

I would like to know if KG takes her kids out for fun without cameras around.

Wait...I know the answer: no
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Exactly, and this is what makes us all sick. She films the pants off her kids, no regard for their embarassment or privacy. But this "wonderful supermom" can not be bothered to do a single outside activity without a camera. (TLC/Chris). There really is a place in hell for her. Ater the tups' expulsion, I am convinced now more than ever, that she will stop at nothing.

Can someone please tell me if the "new" contract renewal extends beyond Feb 2012? Neither TLC or Kate have any shame or decency.

Gosselin8ComeFirst said...

have had a thought tonight on the Alaska episode. Do you think TLC might have done some editing to include the 'bad Kate' footage to help get them off the hook for the recent bad press the kids have been getting. Sort of like, 'See... the kids act out because Kate is cruel... not because we film them.' I could easily see TLC throwing Kate under the bus in under to save their own reputation.

Regardless of why the footage was allowed to air, i am glad it did so the world could see the truth.
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Could very well be. This simply makes TLC an accomplice to the perpetrator (Kate). She is their MOTHER for God's sakes and has no interest in protecting them. What a complete scumbag she is. Sorry, but I am completely disgusted how someone who is known to be an exploiter of her own children, and acts like a complete selfish ass on SP Alaska continues to get contract extensions, in spite of the sad state of affairs at the homestead. Most networks, tabloids, new agencies, etc.. are on to her selfishness, yet the filming continues... Sorry, I probably need a time out.

Hippie Chick said...

noh84k8 said...
BoxARox - My youtube account got deleted for too many copyright infringements (TLC finally started flagging my videos). I do plan on putting the videos back up - particularly Alaska because people need to see that. But the site may end up being more archival in nature. I think the name next time will be noh84k8

We are not flagging you. We LOVE your videos BTW. (yep, I read it elsewhere, & that is the 1st time I went there) wink wink. I wanted to watch the Palin's show on your YT account & when I tried to find it, it was gone. I was bummed out. So, I'm really sorry your account was taken down. I hope you can get it back up. Your videos are the only way some people will watch. Typically, I don't even bother, especially with the K+8 videos, I don't give them the satisfaction at all (no offense) but the SPA video, I really wanted to see the whole thing, so I was bummed. Sorry it happened, Discovery or whoever just doesn't want people to see Kate in a bad light maybe? I dunno...Good luck getting it back up! :)

No Christmas at the Gosselin House, for sure said...

Ohio Buckeye....okay, I remember the alligator, retired out as he had no teeth, probably, laying along the shore, under some trees, might have been mechanical, too.

It was the first trip to Florida after her entry into hair extensions, doing the shows complaining about Jon and him leaving her with no money, and her new jugs, Steve and the Big Bodyguard were in the boat along with Ashley, I think, and another Nannie. You all gotta remember that?

Kate stood up in her black bikini to yell, "help us" and screaming like the banshe she is, all that TLC told her to "be bigger than life with those jugs of yours, scream like it is coming from inside of your bra"....no diction, no actual understanding anything except her screaming like she was back in E town in the garage, only this time she had no plastic chair but she did have the Hair Extensions, don't you remember? It may have also been the 6th birthday party show with the kids each getting their own cake with the fish and poor Mady cried and complained about the "little kids got 3 birthday parties".......Mady was told to leave the concrete under the pavilion and walk away, right now. Kate's hand pointing that finger in her face. Poor Mady walked away and stood from a far watching, Cara just stood there like a zombie, she is doing that more and more. Cara is so quiet now.
Do ya think that may be the reason that the kids only get a glimpse of what "regular kids get" but so OVER THE TOP with everything. Very sad, 3 birthday parties for one birthday, no wonder Alexis can't sit still, listens to no one unless Kate puts her heavy hand on her shoulder and twists her so hard that the only thing Alexis listens to is corporal punishment. Oh my Lord, she has been doing that since she was born.

Poor kids, yep, big house, mega van, nice clothes and the lonliest children in town.

Wonder again about Collin. His anger and striking out. Sad, that he wouldn't be excited to be with new playmates.

She isolated those 6 until now, they cannot blend in with other children. Are they afraid of other people? Has she put that into their heads?

Got rid of all family members, cousins, etc.

Only the camera crew is family.

No Christmas at the Gosselin House, for sure said...

Oh Brummy Girl, you are funny, but you do need a correction with correlating Kate with Scrooge. Remember Scrooge changed his ways, that will not happen with Kate, all she changes is her hair extensions!

She does not see "the writing on the wall" Yep, missing some chromosomes or genes, no doubt there.

(put Joel, the vomitous- fevered kid, on the cold tile floor of the laundry room as he messed up the quilt) that is the type of memory that stays with a child forever.

Child Advocate by Trade said...

Not afraid of TLC writing me a letter as I would love it. I would want to be face to face with the attorneys that represent TLC. See the "suits" that run that zoo they call Family Entertainment. I would want it covered by the Press and would insist on it.

That would be a dream come true for me, getting my testimony printed in the Press. I would prepare copies for distribution. Not a problem.

But to get there and be there because I lowered myself to take a film or photo of that woman with her photographer, paid by TLC, as she Runs Around Performing Errands, no, absolutely not.

They have never answered my letters, written letters regarding episodes of child abuse by TLC and that woman and her representatives.Never. Yet, I will continue to write them and detail all the specifics.

Also have written letters to every TV program that has had her on their show to discuss her husband, her children and her constant fabrication of life.

Amy too said...

Budge confidential...I watched the you tube and wow, she did hurt Alexis, she almost pushed the child's arm out of the socket, by pulling the top of the arm back and squeezing. The tiny little socket and arms are not fully grown and wow, she had to have hurt the ligaments. As Alexis kept rubbing her whole arm. The pain really quieted Alexis down as she rubbed and rubbed, meanwhile looking back at her mother. She knew not to say another word, and when she did, Kate gave her the wonky eye. As Alexis has never been taught not to hit, fight. Yes, she has some problems because no one gave her individual attention except to hit her. I can see that in all film footage of that little one. She has become the bully of the 6.

I have to say that woman never stopped hitting and still hits to get their attention. Yes, she beats them. To grab a 3 or 4 yr old like that is terrible.

Why didn't she pick Alexis up and put her on her lap? Hug her and get her attention that way with love.

Not like you see those children fighting to get on her lap, huh?

Just want to say that Cara & Mady were pushed aside because they did not get " a photo shoot job" so they failed Kate's expectations. So I see them getting pushed to the rear so often like they are not children or important. Kate pushes for the 6 to be out front.

Now the twins are growing, changing, going into the awkward stage and I see this more and more with Cara. Like last week when the Grinch met the school bus with her red face, etc. Cara is getting as tall as Kate and she is built differently from Mady, she is taller, not petite like Mady. So when will Kate start making her jog 5 miles a day, starve her with egg whites and steamed veggies and keep "ragging on her" like she did to Jon about weight.

I hope she leaves those twins alone. Mady fights Kate and does all the things Kate hates, makes faces, says negative things. She is reacting with her anger. Not Cara, quiet, in the background, self conscious. So sad. Ten is the age a young girl starts to develop and her body starts to slowly change. Cara will be her "next target" to replace beating Jon. Mady fights back, Cara doesn't, not on camera.

Cara may be the first one to actually have a real meltdown.

winsomeone said...

Kate's right back on track..the Alaska trip has died down, and all that will remain from it is a ratings bump. This year won't be any different than the last one for the eight children.

K8. Fan. said...

When is TLC gonna realize that a large part of the reason they are loosing fans is because the episodes they are doing now ARE NOT REALITY!!!!!!! Again, box seats, catered food, etc are NOT reality for 90% of the population. ESPECIALLY not for a single mom of 8.
Camping and a hockey game, I will admit, are much closer to reality than a luxury trip to Alaska, disney world, San Diego, etc.... But still. Come on. Who really wants to watch 8 kids DESTROY the luxury suite at a hockey game while Kate pretends to be watching the game????

so sick of her said...

Ok, saw the pic of Kate at the hockey game, what happen to that expensive hair cut? I see she is wearing same clothes. I also read some of the comments: and well, most were negative. The few that were positive, were from men?(maybe the sheeple are posing as men) I would think that a true sports guy/women, like the ones who were negative, could care less about K8(might even blame her for bad karma, for the team losing)most were not happy she was there. And one comment got my attention: one person said they had seen/met her, the day before or the same day earlier and K & 8, were touring Philly. I'm wondering if, TLC ment when they said they were gonna cut the trips down and do more home and what local stuff? Perhaps this will be the new focus, PA the state I live in(you poor people in PA). Kate won't like that, cause it means, mingling with the natives and dashing her dreams of trips, elsewhere, I guess her list won't be met). I guess more boobyguards will be needed. poor kids

PA G-ma said...

A question to those who live in Berks County,
When we see the pix of K8 in parking lots, the UPS store, the school bus stop, the gas station, etc., there never seems to be ANY OTHER people in the area of filming. Are you kept back from interfering in her photo op or do you just keep out of the way on your own? The areas that she is filmed at are usually very busy and I would be really steamed that she would be taking up my time to get things done. It is no wonder that people in that area don't care for her.Her madness of "being in control" is affecting a lot of NORMAL people. She is a fungus on the area.

NT said...

I agree that Kate NEVER takes her kids anywhere without a camera following her. She had these kids and had no idea how to take care of them by herself. She takes no joy in taking them with her anywhere. Those kids are in prison when they are at home with her or without her. The only time they go out and have fun is when they are with their Dad. How is it that he can handle it and not her? She is extremely cheap when it come to those kids. She won't spend a dime on them. I will bet that their 15% is being spent on their school. I wonder if they will have to work on Christmas Eve and Christmas this year. She made sure to have custody on those two days. She really is a selfish hateful person.

Kittie6 said...

I imagine TLC had to put Princess Katie Irene and her 8 ATM$ in a private suite for filming purposes. Can't imagine a camera crew trying to set up shots in the regular seating area with regular fans trying to actually watch the game. I'm sure Kate wouldn't want to be filmed with the commoners anyway.

Kartie Dearest said...

I thought KG said the kids are in bed by 7:30 pm and she's in bed by 7:31 pm. Wasn't this a night game... I guess filming is the ONE exception.

And I thought KG said every year they make it a tradition to sing Christmas Carols to family and friends who've supported them throughout the year... so I guess they'll be caroling in front of:

1) TLC HQ
2) Today Show & ET Studios
3) Chris the Pap's house
4) Purseboy's room in the basement
5) Shoka's doghouse

but the truth is, KG alone should be caroling in front of her kids.

Savant said...

K8. Fan. said...

Again, box seats, catered food, etc are NOT reality for 90% of the population. ESPECIALLY not for a single mom of 8.

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I couldn't agree more. Exactly whose reality are they portraying here?? Not mine, that's for sure. I only WISH I could afford box seats at a hockey game. My mom is 65, and an avid hockey fan, but hasn't been to a hockey game in 30+ years because she can't walk up and down in the stadium seating. Do you know what I would do to be able to take her to a hockey game in a comfortable box seat so that she didn't have to??

Well, okay, I wouldn't sell my kid on reality TV...but these 'perks', IMHO, are not anyone's idea of 'reality'!

Readingmom said...

Can someone please tell me if the "new" contract renewal extends beyond Feb 2012? Neither TLC or Kate have any shame or decency.

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There is no new contract renewal. not yet anyway.

Werney Gal misspoke when she said the show had been picked up for another season.

She corrected it and said: "what I meant was they have scheduled more episodes to film. Yes, she has a contract til 2/12, but TLC doesn't have to film more within that time if they don't want to. That just means Kate has to be available to them if they want her to film."

The contract expires 2/12, but no one has announced any renewals nor an official new season.

Ben Franklin said...

Maybe TLC will be changing the name of the show from "Kate plus 8" to "Gosselins' PA" since they are just doing local things now.
Oh boy, sounds exciting....NOT!

Denise said...

I notice that TLC's ad does not show the Gosselins but shows all the other series.

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