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Make It Stop said...

Make it stop.

The shoes.
The jeans.
The puffy jacket.
At the grocery store.
Together.

Please, God. Make it stop.

C said...

silimom said...
She's NEVER once tipped. She treats the locals like they are absolute trash
****

Here's an easy solution - the locals should stop servicing her...Target, all the supermarkets need to stop giving her special treatment. Do you really need her business THAT badly?

The only problem I can see with that is if The Suits(tm) at regional or corporate headquarters have given orders otherwise.

Brummygirl said...

..and the big bad wolf said to the one little pig.."I'll huff and I'll puff and blow your straw house down!"
..and the little pig said..
"I'm over here big boy, you are blowing into K8 Gosselin's hair!!"

Anonymous said...

Does Jon have a say in how the kids money is used. If its used for Nannies when shes away. Can he try to get that to stop or have ehr spend her own money?

winsomeone said...

Supposedly, Jon's income from his share of the marriage money, from the houses etc, was put into a special account from which he could only use it for child support, right? So, if he only paid $80,000 last year, and then stopped, that means that money is gone? Plus, his share of all the TV shows, love offerings, books, etc, was just $80,000? How can that be?

K8 Fan said...

Its easier to transform your appearance than it is to transform your SELF. She is miserable and she's trying to fill that void with stuff and make her self feel good by looking good....
MESSAGE TO KATE: only God can fill that void, and the love He shines upon you along with the 8 precious amazing beautiful children He gave you. THEY can fill that void!!!!! Anne Tayor can not.

anotherchestercountymom said...

http://www.infdaily.com/2010/12/first-pics-alexis-and-collin-gosselin-have-a-snow-day-from-home-school.html

The kids out with the teacher and nanny. And where is mommy? In New York? Why isn't she at home participating in their care, education, and emotional needs?

Nina said...

As far as I know all the figures from Kate's alleged earnings and what Jon received from the divorce are unofficial and basically gossip. TV Guide has to my own knowledge published erroneous salary figures - they get them from the same publicists who tell us Kate is a great mother in fact. Jon would have gotten at most half the equity of the two houses and half the bank accounts that they held at the time of the filing.

Jane in California said...

Those two young women in the INF pics look, well, really young! I'd place them in their early 20's at best. I really hope they have good common sense and are kind to the children, but I worry when I see that Kate surrounds herself with very young adults because often they haven't yet developed a strong sense of self and can more easily be pushed around.

As to Jon, Kate and the division of money and assets. I doubt we'll ever know the full truth, but it does certainly appear that Jon got the short end of the stick because he made some really bad choices in attorneys at the time. Oh well, nothing he can do about the past, but sounds like he's following some good advice for the present.

If he handles it properly, he should be able to both get his child support reduced to a more reasonable amount and be awarded greater amount of custodial time with his own children. Further, a good attorney would insist that a new clause be added to the custody/visitation order: That whenever one parent is out of town during their custodial time, the other parent has the right of first refusal. Meaning, they must be offered the chance to have the children with them before the traveling parent leaves them with another caregiver. That is a very common clause and if Jon really doesn't want his kids left in the care of babysitters, he needs to modify that custody order pronto.

Despite the protests of Kate's fans, Jon has never been found a neglectful or bad parent. Family law judges find this a reasonable request. So ask for it Jon!!

bank said...

Nina, you make a good point. Unless you are Jon, Kate or their lawyer, you really would not know their financial affairs.
It is really no one's business and no one would really care but then Kate goes talk shows and cries about not being able to pay bills and that's when speculation and questions arise.

Button Button said...

anotherchestercountymom said...
http://www.infdaily.com/2010/12/first-pics-alexis-and-collin-gosselin-have-a-snow-day-from-home-school.html

The kids out with the teacher and nanny. And where is mommy? In New York? Why isn't she at home participating in their care, education, and emotional needs?

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I had been wondering if they really still had those chickens! I thought they were probably gone just hours after they were filmed for that episode.

Do you think they eat the eggs?

I can't imagine Kate messing with those "dirty" eggs, but then she probably doesn't have to.

I imagine the hired help cares for the chickens and prepares the eggs too.

It makes me sad to see Collin at home. He seems to me to have always tried to do things the way Kate wants them done. That poor little guy.

When we saw him hiding his little face from the cameras, we knew things were not going well for him.

Then they even published the picture of his mom popping him in the mouth at the bus stop.

Poor Collin. Poor kids. All of them. Just a tragedy! Truely a tragedy!

K8 Fan said...

Bank said "It is really no one's business and no one would really care but then Kate goes talk shows and cries about not being able to pay bills and that's when speculation and questions arise."

Exactly. And when she cries that she can pay her mortgage or put food on the table, how is it she can leave that interview and got to an expensive NYC lunch, with her PAID bodyguard, while her kids are at home, with PAID nannies, attending an EXPENSIVE private school..etc. She needs to scale back. We wouldn't all be saying how she needs to stop wasting money if she wasnt complaining that she doesn't have any.
I understand she wants to give her kids the best. Her kids deserve the best. EVERY parent wants to give their kids the best. EVERY child deserves the best. But all we can do as parents is the best that is with in our means. She is living WAY above her means and it's gonna crumble and those poor kids are gonna go from filet mignon to bologna, and nit know what hit them because they are USED to the high life c

Merrilee said...

Kate is always telling everyone that she has to take care of everything all by herself since Jon left.

I dare say, when Jon has the kids, he doesn't have an entourage to help him. Look at Kate's swarm as she goes home after "camping out" with Sarah Palin.

No mother has this much help!

http://justjared.buzznet.com/photo-gallery/2469714/kate-gosselin-kids-home-after-alaska-trip-01/

Sidney said...

Just look at these photos of these poor, bewildered, abandoned kids.

Apparently these were taken after their Mom stormed away from the Alaska campsite because there was no plumbing, no "hand cleansing materials", nothing from take-out to eat -- just moose hotdogs.

It seems like she was just "gone" for two days and her little kids didn't know where she went or when she would be back.

Talk about a temper tantrum!

http://www.infdaily.com/2010/07/exclusive-wheres-mommy-ask-the-gosselin-kids.html

She is Sicker & Sicker said...

Jane in Calif.

Great suggestion to Jon having first refusal to babysitting his own children. BUT, Jon does not have sufficient sleeping quarters for 8 children and right now, I understand that Jon has a 9-5 job. So, that would leave Jon sleeping at Kate's home?

We do not know why Jon is not allowed past those gates, but if Jon sold/gave his rights to that property to Kate, then she does not and can not be ordered to have Jon sleep there while she is out of town. No way. Jon has to have sufficient space for his children and I believe that 1 bedroom would not work.

The tups would require 2 bedrooms, then the twins need a bedroom and then there is the question of Jon's girlfriend. The children being in the apt/house when the girlfriend is there overnight. All something that creates even more problems.

Remember that Ellen has not been in Jon's life for a year, stability in this relationship would be a problem for any parent/mother/father. It always is with a "paramour" being present in the home.

Don't believe that as of right now Jon can keep going back and forth before the Judge with custody requests unless he has a lot of money for these attorneys.

Wonderful idea but then again, we do know that the tups and the twins like sleeping in their own beds at night, as Kate said on the Regis & Kelly show.

What a web we weave, huh?

Why wouldn't that witch want her children's father supervising the children when she is in NY with her boyfriend, huh? Why does she have to travel with a male bodyguard and not a female bodyguard??????

Something wreaks to the sky with what exactly is going on with Kate and Steve. Too many years of these 2 sleeping in adjoining rooms.

By the way, you can't go to NY from PA in one day, get a haircut/keratin treatment/hair bleached out and be back in PA in one day? Of course you can, unless you want to have dinner with your bodyguard and sleep in adjoining rooms. lol lol lol rofl

She will do anything to get a photo taken and keep her face and name in the press.

Check out www.examiner to see Jimmy Kimmel do his take on Kate and Sarah Scaring the animals in Alaska.

Found some friends here said...

Guess Kate couldn't take not being alone with Steve, so she scheduled herself a hair works, that is what it is called, right, The Works.

How in the world does Steve's wife deal with this phony baloney. I wouldn't like it. He is the only bodyguard that can travel with her, plus she is always smiling when with him, but not with her children, no way. She is one unhappy person.

Saw her at the Baltimore airport with her kids, from a far, of course, she sat with her arms crossed as there was a weather delay, her kids were all over the place, playing, just what kiddies that age do when waiting so long. She talked into the air "about oh this is taking so long and blah, blah, blah" so loud. People were looking at her but no one was taking pixs or anything, just staring as the kids are all dressed alike, that is what makes you look. Otherwise, you wouldn't look as they are different sizes, just that they are tan/oriental to some degree. Jon was there, it was a couple of years ago. He sat with a magazine and the kids climbed all over him, not climbing all over Kate though.

Great site, but I think she is going to be on some other show sooner or later.

She doesn't seem to go away like Lohan, just like Lohan.

Hippie Chick said...

Funny!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fGhmZWOHpg&feature=player_embedded

so sick of her said...

Did everyone see the Jimmy Kimmel Palin/Kate spoof? It's funny as heck.

SwingsandRoundabouts said...

Brummygirl:

Thanks, you always make me laugh.

she is evil said...

All Kate is left with to garner attention is being a bad mother. The only news these days deals with her bad behavior (Alaska), mistreatment of the kids (week old sandwiches), dissing Jon, and pampering herself/ignoring her kids. That's all she's left with. They say a narcissist wants to be idolized and admired but will settle for being notorious rather than be ignored. Kate Plus 8 may survive for a few more episodes but not for much longer and I don't think she has a back up plan in place. She can't make it as a talk show host if she's illiterate, unread, speaks so poorly and has nothing to talk about besides herself.

Amy too said...

I just saw the photos of the kids, who were left alone for 2 days on the way back from Alaska last Summer. That is some sad photos. Where was the bitch and why did she have to be away with Steve?

Tell everyone that you are being rode hard and put away wet and get it over with.

Your poor little kids, what in the hell is your problem lady?

The looks on their faces is beyond sad, beyond abandoned, like they are all alone in the whole wide world.

You leave them with strangers, strangers, hired help, not family, but hired help. They put in their hours and leave, no thoughts of your kids. You don't leave children with strangers while you run off for a "little relaxation"...your kids come first, get them home to PA in their own beds. You do not let strangers put your children to bed.

Kate, I hope that you find out what Karma is real soon.

I want to see those children smiling and happy.

Little Collin and Alexis at home with those 2 very young looking women, feeding the chickens?

Collin won't touch them, they reach out to him and he hugs himself. How detached do we think he is? Has everything she and Jon allowed him to be exposed on TV and you tube now prevent him from being able to participate in a regular classroom?
He now has anger, is he being made fun of? Is Alexis fighting for him?

How does TLC watch this and think it is all okay? Because the kids have up to date clothing, some food, a bed and they should be grateful? That is how their mother looks at it.

Very sad.

For a laugh though, go to www.cnn.com for some interaction with Kate and Sarah. Too funny and Kate's ORANGE face near the Pahlins is funny, plus Kate looks like she is twice Sarah's tiny petite size. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

She also said she would "kill for her kids" with a gun if she had to.
Wonder how much they would have to pay her, for her to defend her children!

Lillie Mae Acres said...

I'm just really puzzled that no judge has seen fit to put a stop to all of it. It's just a circus and doesn't make sense anymore.

Haven't we learned anything from previous child stars stories? The ones that don't end up in rehab, jail, homeless, dead way too young, etc are a very few.

The Gosselin kids are so young yet already have way more baggage than most of us have.

Unfortunately it seems like mass media still wants an interview, guest spot, a piece of the show and family. Why? The children's lives are slowly crumbling before us and if I had a tv show or magazine I wouldn't want to be a part of it.

ditto! said...

Make It Stop said...
Make it stop.

The shoes.
The jeans.
The puffy jacket.
At the grocery store.
Together.

Please, God. Make it stop.

12/10/2010 9:34 PM
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Ditto Ditto D i T t O etc
etc etc etc!!

My Name Is CuriousGeorge said...

I would also like to know why some judge "hasn't put a stop " to the megalomaniacal mess that is K8 G. For she is NOT a mother.!
And before I leave this earth, I HAVE to know what in the world has been going on/is going on between her and Steve Neild! I dunno why but that is the most pressing question of all, in my book!
Please: DO tell!

Brummygirl said...

I was in the middle of watching Insider when our satellite went out. They were going to share things which went on whilst filming Palin's Alaska. Did anyone watch it?

Gosselin8ComeFirst said...

I just watched some of the "Ugliest Moments" on You Tube, and must say that Kate is the nastiest shrew known to mankind. She treated Jon like total crap, put him down every step of the way, constantly criticized him, and spoke to him like a dog on film. Can only imagine what happened when cameras were not there. She had Jon quit his job so she had "help" at all times, and has ever since. Even before he quit his job, she had him getting the kids up, dressed, showered them at night, watched them and played with them, while her duties were to feed them breakfast and lunch and then put them down for a 3-4 hour nap until Jon got home. And the kids know this.

Let's face it, aside from all the help she has had with these kids since birth, she never really wanted to deal with the kids full-time. And never really has - enter nurse, volunteers, babysitters, nannies, helpers, relatives, Beth, anyone who will take the duties of parenting away from her.

This explains the children's behaviors towards her and in general. Mady has been rebelling against Kate's hypocrisy and arrogance since day one; sweet Cara appears sullen and withdrawn. Never mind Kate put such emphasis on the tups that the twins took a huge back seat to their younger siblings.

The boy tups were less favored and yucky boys. Collin has been expelled while poor Aaden and Joel barely speak anymore, God forbid they do or say something wrong to offend the moody selfish queen. Even at their age, they know it is best to blend into the background to avoid her wrath. The girls tups on the other hand, have clearly been favored; we have Hannah (the favorite) who clearly has learned how to work Kate. Alexis is a charming child, and in immitating her mother's behavior, does not tolerate any crap from anyone, and has become aggressive much like Kate (not her fault, she is merely immitating her mother), no comment on Leah, as she appears to have survived okay although one can never be sure of what is going on.

I am not criticizing any of the kids, but merely trying to make a point of two things:

1) Kate never took the time to put her kids first once the tups came and to bond with them, rather having the nurse, volunteers, Jon, helpers, nannies, baby sitters, body guards, etc.. take care of their needs (she really is not equipped nor cares to be part of their day to day well-being and; 2) The kids are acting out in response to her lack of parenting, choice to separate from Jon, constant changes in babysitters, adjusting to her mood swings, and how to please her or perhaps get some attention, and to fend in a family of eight kids, none of which Kate seems to want to have a clue about while she galavants about to fufill her own personal needs, while spending as little time as possible understanding her children's individual needs. Kate is an example of someone who should never have 8 kids; her personality is simply not designed to deal with more than a couple of needs other than her own. And deep down, I think she knows she is not equipped to handle the kids, which is where Jon is much needed. She can't take back her choice to have eight kids, and deep down knows she is a miserable failure but will never admit it, so she forges ahead with her need for fame, and continues to hire people to raise her kids, EVEN WHEN SHE IS THERE. That says a lot about her abilities to deal with her kids. After all, she is the Supermom, who "does it all herself - Can do Kate."

Sorry for the rant, but this woman had no business ever having 8 kids, as she clearly is not cut out for this job. Two kindergartens expelled. Need I say more. I am really sad that these kids have to live like this, and am hopeful the show will end to give them some personal privacy, although I am frightened for them once it ends, as Kate is/was/and always shall be all about herself. Hopefully Jon can get more time with them, as this is their only chance at normalcy.

Marie France said...

Jane in California said...
Those two young women in the INF pics look, well, really young! I'd place them in their early 20's at best. I really hope they have good common sense and are kind to the children, but I worry when I see that Kate surrounds herself with very young adults because often they haven't yet developed a strong sense of self and can more easily be pushed around.
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I could not agree with you more!! First of all, I do not think either one of those girls is the so-called "teacher." Both of them look no more than 20. They are probably both paid help - nanny and some other assistant... Khate soen't want to hire mature, experienced nannies for the kids, because they would never in a billion years tolerate her and her treatment of those children. All she hires is "babysitters" - like we hire if we are going out with our husbands for an evening. The babysitters we hire mind the kids for a couple hours and make sure they are safe until we get home. Kate expects these babysitter girls to actually raise her kids. She is so sick and twisted.

hannah said...

I wonder if one day that no matter how much money she gives them. She wont find anyone willing to work for her.

Tami said...

I could not agree with you more!! First of all, I do not think either one of those girls is the so-called "teacher." Both of them look no more than 20. They are probably both paid help - nanny and some other assistant... Khate soen't want to hire mature, experienced nannies for the kids, because they would never in a billion years tolerate her and her treatment of those children. All she hires is "babysitters" - like we hire if we are going out with our husbands for an evening. The babysitters we hire mind the kids for a couple hours and make sure they are safe until we get home. Kate expects these babysitter girls to actually raise her kids. She is so sick and twisted.

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I wonder if the older nannies get fired or move on. I have not seen any mature ones lately. Do they question her or does she get nervous they know more about kids than she does? I don't know..The girls in that picture appeared to me to be teenagers, the same age or younger than my daughter. I just can't see someone so young having the knowledge and patience to take care of that many kids at once, and kids with issues too. Sorry, but you can't learn it in a book. All the child development classes in the world will not teach what they need to know. Only experience will! If I could go back and change things I did with my first child and do it again like I do now the 4th time around, I would. And these are the people she is choosing to play a huge role in raising her kids, and they are even younger and more inexperienced than I was.

Generic Hair said...

"I have that same haircut, but it was $14.99 at Supercuts. She overpaid, how embarrassing!

And that being said, mine still looks better because it's healthy and not dyed and my bangs aren't hanging in my eyes.

Next thing you know, she'll claim that she her very-common-run-of-the-mill haircut is now all the rage because she is sporting it. gag."

I agree. I get haircuts for around the price you pay as well. The author of the story said she goes to Ted and it's worth every penny. Uh, how? He does not do anything the average stylist can't do, period. Her hairstyle IS boring and generic for that price. She sure was trying to flaunt it though! I can't believe how some people will throw away their money. I couldn't look at myself in the mirror if I wasted money that way.

h8k8 said...

Marie France said...
Jane in California said...
Those two young women in the INF pics look, well, really young! I'd place them in their early 20's at best.
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I could not agree with you more!! First of all, I do not think either one of those girls is the so-called "teacher." Both of them look no more than 20. They are probably both paid help - nanny and some other assistant... Khate soen't want to hire mature, experienced nannies for the kids, because they would never in a billion years tolerate her and her treatment of those children. All she hires is "babysitters" - like we hire if we are going out with our husbands for an evening. The babysitters we hire mind the kids for a couple hours and make sure they are safe until we get home. Kate expects these babysitter girls to actually raise her kids. She is so sick and twisted.


I agree about Kate hiring 'babysitters' rather than mature women as caregivers, however ANYONE can home-school a child as long as there is an adult who signs the appropriate documents. I'm not saying Kate has a 20 something babysitter type person teaching the kids, but just saying to keep that possibility open. Kate's judgement in regards to childcare and security for the kids certainly hasn't always been the best in the past.

pinkdiamond611 said...

To all of those who want it to go away and stop: For me, it has stopped, because I refuse to look or watch. Every click you make, makes her "significant". It is only when she is insignificant can the children stop working for her. jmo

Off with the TV said...

www.cnn.com has a thread somewhere on their web site about more than the video we have been seeing for 2 weeks of Pahlin/Gosselin and it is a beauty as we see how BIG BONED our Katie is compared to petite Pahlin.

Although Pahlin is a good 10 yrs older, had 5 children (no c section, I don't believe) and married 22 yrs (no sin to divorce, just a sin to make sure your ex lives on cereal)...so I assume that
Kate with her Orange skin, oh you can really see it compared to pale white Sarah, who has beautiful skin.

I thought it was hysterical. The kids were having fun though, really fun. Right off the bat, Kate is sarcastic about her kids because they loved the bear rug. Kate has no open mind, it is her way or the highway....as she proves.

Check it out. Too funny but so sad too as Kate has no "good side to her face unless facing forward" so you see those big teeth.

Check out infdaily with her and her open mouth and there sits the chewing gum on the side of her mouth. Class, our Kate has class.

K8STFU said...

The "judge" has not done anything because he is just as corrupt as TLC.

Boston Bonnie said...

The only show I want to see Khate on is Super Nanny.

Ohio Buckeye said...

@Ky Pastor: Thanks for another beautiful, insightful comment.

IMO, there are those who are incapable of joy. For whatever reason, the void within is so great that nothing, and I mean nothing, allows them to experience anything more than a superficial and momentary blimp on their internal Happy-O-Meter.

Entire lifetimes have been spent attempting to fill that void with tangibles like $, fame, risk taking activities, etc., yet the void always wins. Why? because the void is simply symptomatic of some deep psychological issues(s) that will never be acknowledged, because denial so often goes hand in hand with this type of inner void. The joyless tend to feel under appreciated by all and they blame everyone else for failing to see them as the heros the joyless envision themselves to be.

Incapable of joy, that's Kate Gosselin. A very sad role model for 8 impressionable children.

Hippie Chick said...

KyPastor...Thank you for your beautiful words.

Shoka's Understudy says... said...

I came across this about paying taxes on gifts. I hope the IRS is keeping tabs on Grifter Gosselin.

http://www.fairmark.com/begin/gifts.htm

lukebandit

lukebandit... said...

The hair salon that cuts the kids hair, do you think they have a contract with TLC and TLC is comping or paying for the cuts? Sounds like it, because, the salon is shut down for 2 hours to accomodate them. That is insane! It must be that way, because IMO, TLC has a iron clad non disclosure contract and it has a clause in it to shut down the store when they come in and reimburse the salon for lost business because of the shut down. Same for the mani-pedis, tans.

Brummygirl said...

Thank you KyPastor for that beautiful post. Hearing that Kate's father was a minister, I wonder why his sermons never touched her heart.
In some form or other, I expect most of the people here have some sort of suffering in their lives (Hippie Chick, hang in there) and I hope they find their joy to lighten the load.
Kate's joy should have been the fact that she was able to have children at all, yet she ignores this, finding joy only in material things.
I wish my two girls were still young as we had the best times as a family. We still do when we get together, but it is not the same having them here 24 hours and enjoying their *first sights* of many things.
I have a clear conscience about raising my daughters with love and joy, can Kate say the same thing...No!!!! Love them now Kate and they will come back to you.

Ladylou said...

That smile she has plastered on her face when she is in New York is our Kate being true to herself... far far away from white bread Pennsylvania and her 8 kids.

She is most comfortable as the in your face glitzy star wanna be. You can almost feel her joy as she flashes that toothy smile for the cameras and her "fans" (yeah-right).

She doesn't get to me as bad as she used too...
If I don't look for things about her.. she doesn't take up space in my brain.

But I had a thought.... she's like a pet urine stain on the carpet of life.
You can scrub the spot clean so it's barely noticeable... place a table or chair over it obscuring any hint of it..
but it's the stench of the whole thing you can't ever really be rid of.
HAHAHA I just made myself laugh as I re read it.
Go away Kate... you are stinking up the place!

DoSomethingJon said...

http://www.showbizspy.com/article/220639/kate-gosselin-accused-of-messing-up-her-children.html

Kate Gosselin Accused of Messing Up Her Eight Children!

Ohio Buckeye said...

David Zurawic at The Baltimore Sun has done it again in his column, "Z on TV".

Anyone who wants a spot on, humorous take on the disastrous TLC choice to pair Silly Sarah and K8G: find "Z on TV" and enjoy the most recent addition.

We can now officially add Jimmy Kimmel to the legions of men who duck and cover at the mere sound of K8G, and who cringe at the inane blatherings of Sarah P.

ChurchMouse said...

"Ohio Buckeye said...
...IMO, there are those who are incapable of joy. For whatever reason, the void within is so great that nothing, and I mean nothing, allows them to experience anything more than a superficial and momentary blimp on their internal Happy-O-Meter..."

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Ms. Gosselin would say that she is very happy. She has pots of money and people to boss around.

She has make-up artists and hairstylists to prepare her for her, "show."

She has people fawning all over her--for now.

However, Fame is a fickle friend.

Forcing your kids to constantly film their personal lives as if they were performing monkeys is not going to create the kind of "lasting memories," she expects.

In the years to come, those kids will use that footage against her. Wait and see.

PR in PA said...

Just saw a blurb:

The star of “Kate Plus 8” taped an episode with Sarah Palin for the ex-Alaska governor’s reality show, “Sarah Palin’s Alaska.” (Palin pictured here with Kate and her twins.) A source tells Us Weekly that the mom of eight and the Mama Grizzly had “zero chemistry.”


Hmmm..no surprise there. Sarah = Positive. K8 = Negative. After last weeks SP Alaska episode I saw the previews for the following weeks epi. I just felt like K8 totally tainted SP's show. Her show is always upbeat, positive and here come's K8 riding on her broom and throws water on it. Not watching tonight..sorry Sarah.

silimom said...

Thank you KyPastor for that beautiful post. Hearing that Kate's father was a minister, I wonder why his sermons never touched her heart.
*****

From my understanding, Kenton Kreider is not a full time minister on staff at his church. He fills in if needed sort of like a substitute. That could be because he is retired, I don't really know.

According to locals, he is every bit as arrogant and bullying as Kate. Apparently the family is rather dysfunctional and Kate's marriage to Jon was very much like her parents, although role reversed with Kate being the dominant, bullying partner and Jon being the passive one.

When Kate refused the donations of mismatched cribs and gently used baby clothes from his church, Kenton was furious not because it was disrespectful to the people who had been so generous to his daughter but rather because it made him look bad. To quote Kate, she "was embarrassing him".

Again, I don't know the man personally but from local reports Kate's apple didn't fall far from the tree.

so sick of her said...

Did anyone see the video of Kate & 8, arriving at Palins house and what they did to the bear rug? When they came into the house Palin says something about the bear rug, and the tups go right for it and some ran amok. Then they broke the tongue off. And Kate did nothing, said nothing when the kids broke it, then made a comment that Oh, was the tongue removable? And Palin said no, then Kate says(in a 'so what' attitude)well it is now. How arrogant! disrepectful, and not even an apology, or even saying she will pay for the repair. I would have been all over my kids and would have paid for the repair. Kate has no interest or control over her kids. No respect for anyone. I hope one day it comes back to hit her and hard. Can't wait to watch that idiot tonight, make a complete A-whole out of herself.

Anonymous said...

I'm spitting mad! The kids were having a blast and she jerked them away. I don't EVER want to hear about how everything's about the kids again. She was also an ungracious guest Sarah and her dad. Her dad was entertaining the kids. So sad. I can't wait for the Gosselin kids' tell all book one day.

last2cu said...

Ha Ha..Sarah Palin's Dad said that Kate "bitched" every minute that they were "camping" for 2 hours..

Yes, I live in Alaska said...

Okay Folks, I watched Pahlin & Gosselin, don't hate me.

She, our dear katie, made an ass out of herself and her poor kids were having a ball, did not want to leave. Kate kept complaining and complaining and left.

Pahlin's Dad, who is this neat Science teacher had the kids transfixed, they loved it and were having so much fun fishing, in the rain.

Well, after Kate left, Pahlin'e Dad said, "Kate bitched from the time she arrived"..........un huh

Sociology Intern said...

May I say a few words? I went thru the terrible videos on the you tube thing. all of those old segments from #1 to I guess the last season, I didn't see all of them. But the children, little ones, are absolutely raging angry all the time. Some beat up on the others. Jon doesn't fight back because you cannot fight her back, no I don't think you can, she will murder you.

There was something said on one of the videos about Alexis (?) leaving the bedroom at night, where here sisters slept, to go and sleep in the basement. I find that interesting. Why would a baby of 3 or 4 go into the basement to sleep? Yet that would be okay with the parents?

Okay, moving right along here. Kate was kind of cute looking at the #2 years, then her hair became all kinds of colors, really "look at me, look at me" and she made fun of Collin's hair sticking up; yet, she had that thing in the back of head sticking up, her hair. Like the cartoon character? Why.

As I got to the last and a bit of #3, she developed a whole new personality. "I am busy, I have photo shoots, I have interviews, I have book signings, I have web interviews, we have photo shoots, we have this and I have books to write and I have book tours. She literally left the husband, Jon, to stay at home, ordered him to stay at home.

I believe Jon wanted to just go back to work and leave her to manage the children, her hired help and her career, but he wanted to just leave the house, not be around her and her constant ordering, slapping, maligning, correcting, and he definitely wanted to be off of the TV show. She could have remained, he just wanted to feel like a man again. She would not let him.

That show has ruined those 6 small children. They will forever expect everything to be handed to them, forever. They will be so disappointed in life because of what she has done to them. Raising them as if their lives were normal. Not so. So out of control.

Did the production crew want that reaction from the children and her? Is that what drew the viewers? Please tell me it was not to watch her.

If I had been Jon, when she got her hair multi streaked of every color with that thing on the top of her head, I would have had her committed. For at that point, she was a raging maniac and so were the children. She did that, yes she did, she did that, all by herself. Jon was a good Dad.

red said...

There is no reason for Kate Gosselin to be on television. She's not an actress, I personally gain nothing from watching her other than an uncomfortable feeling for the whole family that they have been on this ride for far too long. The children have suffered severely. I don't think there is ANYONE (except for Kate) who doesn't believe that. It is clear that fame and money mean more to Kate than anything else. Oh, and her new boobs. Let's face it, Kate wouldn't camp out in Texas so to act like it was the elements in Alaska is laughable. Hey, she had to be bundled up so she was unable to wear a low cut shirt as she normally does!. And I have news for you Kate...there are a lot of families who "camp out" and they are not pretending to be homeless. We camped out with our children for years in all kinds of weather in the mountains. At some point we sold our pop up trailer, and later our trailer and started staying in cabins and condos but our children say our "camping" days were the "best!" There were no distractions and yes we played charades by the campfire and told ghost stories. Those are memories they will have for a lifetime. Kate's kids didn't want to leave...and Sarah's did was right..she started bitching the minute she got off the plane. Kate has always been this person...she's just a bigger snob now.

Just Wondering Who Makes the Call said...

Whoever said that Katie and Todd got along like BMF, wrong, he wouldn't even go near her when she flew into the camp, he went up stream to fish. Sarah said, "your staying away from the stress, huh, you chicken" and he winked at Sarah.

She really took a fun trip away from her kids, they never complained about being wet, cold, nope. Ate everything, roasted marshmellows and ate them. Sarah, he Dad and her brother and sister in law and their kids, plus Piper and Willow were taking care of Kate's eight. Mady and Cara had fishing rods and were so relaxed.

As a matter of fact, all 8 of those children were finally relaxed. Not running around, not screaming, not crying, not complaining, having fun. They ate moose hote dogs, moose hamburgers.

Mama Gosselin showed us what she is, a spoiled witch who did not move from under a tent, complaining about bugs (she said she was cold and yet bugs were bothering her) well, she kept making remarks "why would anyone want to live like they are homeless without respect for learning something, especially something so good for her children.

Those children absolutely loved it, every minute of it and they loved the attention.

When Kate and the kids were leaving? Sarah asked Piper is she wanted to walk Kate to her boat, Piper said, "no, come on Mom lets fish".......and they had fun.

I loved this show as it showed that there is hope for the Gosselin children, get them away from her, Jon move them to Utah, change their last name and enjoy life. Yes, there is still hope for them, away from that terrible selfish self centered woman. She doesn't want them. What does she want to do, take them to another hotel? Terrible way of life from the prison to a hotel.

also, how does a photographer get photos of Alexis and Collin with 2 nannies at a specific time during a specific day, when Kate is in NY?

Who called the paps?

SmileyGrl752 said...

Here's something I posted on the Kate + 8 fan page on Facebook. Whenever I try to post it on here, it tells me "error". So I will do this in 2 parts.

Here's something I'd like all Kate's fans to see:

1. Kate told her kids that she and Daddy were going to be together forever, and they ended up getting divorced.

2. Kate claims to be a Christian, yet tells her kids that they're not going to Heaven and Jesus doesn't love bad people.

3. Kate cries she is poor and can't pay the bills, yet she spends $2000 on her hair, and made $3.5 million dollars last year.

4. Kate chewed Jon out for forgetting to use a coupon, yet spends $2000 on her hair and constantly goes tanning and has her nails done.

5. Kate says everything is for the kids, yet when the went to the Crayola factory, they weren't allowed to color till they got home, and when they went to the bakery to decorate cupcakes for their birthday, they weren't allowed to eat them until they got home. Lastly, if everything is for the kids, why did they have to leave Alaska if the kids were having fun? Because Kate was tired, cold, wet and hungry. They left because KATE wasn't having fun. Can you still defend it's about the kids?

6. During one couch interview, Kate told Jon "I just love when you interrupt me", yet later in that same episode she interrupts him. In another couch interview, Kate sighs as Jon talks and tells him "you just ramble on so", yet she has no problem running her mouth. She really does love the sound of her own voice and likes to hear herself talk.

SmileyGrl752 said...

Part 2

7. Kate says she's "ironically" forgiven Jon, but yet forbids the nannies/babysitters from talking to him or about him, and won't let the kids stay at his place when she's gone. She'd rather pay nannies and babysitters than letting her kids go to their father's house, the father she says she's forgiven?

8. Kate said she sits at home waiting for the phone to ring when the kids are at Jon's house because the kids don't like it there and it's not home to them. The day after she said that, she flew to Mexico to have a photo shoot done.

9. Shortly after they divorced and Kate was having her hair extensions put in, Kate said she was "Can-Do Kate", but apparently couldn't "do it" enough for the Alaska episode with Sarah Palin. They were supposed to stay 2 days and ended up leaving after 2 hours. (At least according to what I read).

10. A lot of Kate's fans claim that Kate had to treat Jon that way because he was like a 9th child. When their show was first called "Surviving Sextuplets and Twins", Jon said that he always made Kate her morning coffee as he got ready for work. He also bathed the little kids and helped Mady and Cara get ready for school. Jon did A LOT. I don't care if your spouse doesn't do enough around the house to help out; that's no excuse to be mean. PERIOD. There are enough mean people in the world who make excuses for their behavior. We don't need people excusing Kate's behavior. That's like enabling a drug addict, saying, "Well, he/she is really depressed and they could use that high." Drugs will harm your body. Kate's yelling and put downs hurt Jon's self-esteem.

I could say more but I'll stop. If any more Kate fans still say that we're just jealous of her, you're delusional. Right. I'm jealous of a woman who lost a loving husband, willing friends, her faith, estranged her family, and has her kids and most of America hating her. If anyone says we're jealous of her, I think YOU'RE the ones jealous of her. You want to be rich like her and to able to go tanning and get your nails and hair done.

End of rant.

Jane in California said...

Well, I am glad to hear that the children had at least 2 hours of fun in the midst of the Alaska trip. It seems that if they allowed to relax and behave like children, they can be quite a pleasure to be around.

I wrote on another message board that I will never forgive Kate Gosselin for making Sarah Palin look so good! However, although I am not a fan of Mrs. Palin, I will say that it appears to me that she does love her children, that she seems to interact fairly well with them, and she knows how to put on a public cheerful face! Unlike Kate.

I think Kate was not only out of her element, but I think Sarah Palin's personality overwhelmed Kate. I think in Palin, Kate finally met her match - because I do believe Palin has a core of steel and determination. (Heck, I know she does or she wouldn't have propelled herself so far as she has.)

Kate had to use her children to obtain fleeting fame; Palin has used her own skills and abilities.

Kate has no real friends and has alienated all of her family; Palin has close bonds with her family and friends.

Kate has nothing in her life besides talking to the camera, tanning, botoxing, shopping at Target, etc. Nothing! Palin has a very busy and successful life and is in demand as a public speaker.

So all in all, Kate came face to face with a force of nature and it probably freaked her out.

Toni said...

Love Sara's dads comment about Kate bitching since she got off the plane...

Kids were having a great time...but alas as usual it was all about Kate. Kate you should be ashamed!

Can't See Sheep said...

Part of me wishes the kids had hated the camping experience in Alaska, it's just all the more sad that they were having such a good time & that trantrum throwing, biological mother of theirs ruined it. The fact was, k8 was paid very nicely to go on that camping trip & it was a part of her JOB. So much for k8 the contract honorer. thanks to the Palin show, there are probably even more people who can't stand k8 now. I truly do hope the kids get away from her in time. Perhaps it was good they loved it, it may make them try all the more to get away. They have to feel the difference in love from when they're with k8 compared to when they're with Jon. Money can't buy that.

Silimom, thanks for those comments about k8's father, I figured it had to come from somewhere & that makes a great deal of sense. She behaves like her father & some of her children will grow up & behave like her. Thank goodness not all of them will.

Brummygirl, that's one reason among many that I don't believe k8 had fertility issues. She's not the slightest bit grateful for being blessed with children, not to mention all of them being physically well. Any other mom with fertility issues & she'd be eternally grateful, not k8, that shrew does not have a grateful bone in her body.

Ohio Buckeye, I agree completely.

LMAO!!! Ladylou, k8 a pet urine stain on the carpet of life, I love it!!!

Tami said...

I would just like to know something. If she had such a bad time camping, why not just go in the tent and let the kids stay out and have fun? It could not be because her contract required her to be outside the tent. If that were the case, the contract would certainly not have allowed her to leave the trip altogether to go to a hotel. Why could she not have just gracefully ducked in the tent and said 'it's not for me?' I think that's what most normal moms would do. I get that she hated the camping. But just go inside and throw on some blankets or something!!

hannah said...

Somtimes, I wonder if Jon really wanted to do this show.

I feel bad for the kids. I dont get how a judge can see the shows and her leaving them with nannies and not allowing them to be with who they want when shes gone, and not seeing how its harming the kids.


Is tlc paying off this Judge. Or is he just stupid.

MabelD said...

As I recall, in one of the first reports immediately after the camping trip, Kate was upset and didn't even want to fly to the campsite that morning because of the rain. Steve tried to calm her down and she did go, sulking, dragging her feet, and was determined not to enjoy the experience.

Sobby McFibberpants said...

Who knew a rain storm and a moose burger would be enough to slay TLC's lab-created Frankenmommy?
I vowed to never watch either of these wretched, child exploiting women. Tonight, I did see part of the repeat and I can't believe what I saw. It was as if TLC pooled Kates behavior from every episode that we've hyphenated with 'gate' to make some sort of superbitch-last hurrah! The Palins were shown laughing at her, mocking her, even rolling their eyes at her. I thought they may just feed her to a bear.
She was by far the worst Kate I have EVER seen, and there is no way to spin the level of awful that was on display.

Sarah Palin has recently been trying to improve her image,so Kate was USED by the hand that feeds her in order to make Sarah Palin look better. TLC threw Kate under the bus by letting her be herself, allowing her to finally give that 'realest reality' performance she warned us about.
Meanwhile, somewhere in Haiti, "Operation Sarah is Not-a-Diva", continued this week. The timing of this episode is no coincidence. See everybody, Sarah Palin is not a diva after all. That is not saying much. Compared to campfire Kate, Naomi Campbell is not a diva either.

So,I should be happy that she is going to get crushed by the media. I wanted this. She needed to be knocked down from those ridiculous gladiator heels. I want her to feel humiliated because I think she deserves it. She has maliciously belittled and humiliated Jon, and has broken the spirits of her children by selling their childhoods for breast implants,hair extentions,and skin that resembles a citrus fruit.
For this reason, I have been patiently waiting for karma to come her way. What could be better than TLC being the one to dish it out. IMO, by promoting Kate's meltdown the way they did, TLC was giving the media their blessing for open season.
But all of this has not made me want to celebrate her unraveling. It makes me sick for those kids.
Sure, in theory, Kate living a life far away from my TV is great for me, but what about her kids? They are going to suffer the consequences of her failures. She is cruel, and there is many years left under her twisted rule. Someone's got to pay, and Jon is long removed from that role. Makes me wonder if that is why he stuck around as long as he did. If he took all of those 'love taps' so the kids didn't have to. If that is the case, I hope he can find a way to protect them again.

Rhona said...

It really was a hoot. I don't know if Kate was being how she always is figuring it would be edited out as always, or if TLC convinced her to diva-it-up for the sake of stirring up the waning interest in her in the tabloid press. Either way TLC totally threw Kate to the wolves to help further the good image of their new cash cow, Sarah. It shows clearly that as far as TLC is concerned, Kate is kicked to the curb. In the little Christmas ad for all of TLC's shows where they showed little vignettes and then a collage of them all, Kate was conspicuously missing.

MyKidsAreKoreanToo said...

OK, I watched the episode. I took one for the team but I wanted to see the "meltdown". It was actually pretty funny. Really, the whole episode was about making fun of Kate.
When Sarah's (super cool) dad said she bitched the whole time...priceless. All Kate did was stand under a tent and complain. She said she was cold - WELL MOVE AROUND A LITTLE BIT!! The kids really looked like they were having fun. Too bad mommy dearest ruined it for them. At one point Sarah P was narrating and said that Kate said she was freezing and "the kids are a little chilly". No they didn't. They never complained! As someone else stated already - why couldn't she just get some blankets and go in a tent? Haven't we all been in situations where we are cold, wet, tired, etc...but we suck it up for the ones we love? Her selfishness is endless...

Painful to Watch said...

I think the operative word is envious. Her head snapped back when she saw Sarah's office with a view. Khate's bullying of the children has escalated. Her threats of abandonment are commonplace now. That is every child's worse nightmare whether they enjoy being with their mom or not. She controls every aspect of their life and she threatens to leave them all the time. So sad. Wake up America. This is not prime time entertainment. There is trouble in paradise.

henpecked said...

"There was something said on one of the videos about Alexis (?) leaving the bedroom at night, where here sisters slept, to go and sleep in the basement. I find that interesting. Why would a baby of 3 or 4 go into the basement to sleep? Yet that would be okay with the parents?"
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I think it was established that at this point John was sleeping in the basement, so she may have been going downstairs to be with him.

Pony said...

"I feel bad for the kids. I dont get how a judge can see the shows and her leaving them with nannies and not allowing them to be with who they want when shes gone, and not seeing how its harming the kids.

Is tlc paying off this Judge. Or is he just stupid."

Probably neither. A judge can only rule on what is presented factually in court. Jon and his lawyers would have to get the judge to allow the presentation of clips from the show for them to be considered as evidence. And then Kate could argue that it was all edited, and didn't really happen the way it seemed.

In my very limited experience, family court judges in PA tend to favor mothers over fathers, and they have great latitude to do so.

winsomeone said...

The Gosselin children seemed to interact well with the adults, esppecially Palin's father. But, unless it was edited out, I didn't see any of them playing with Pipper or her male cousin? I don't think they are able to socialize with their peers at this time.

Momof2 said...

What happened to Kate's motto "You get what you get and you can't get upset" ?

Craig . Kate . Xavier said...

"I didn't see any of them playing with Pipper or her male cousin?"

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There was a scene with Piper hugging and trying to pick up one of the sextuplets.

The whole episode make me sick and sad. I've been thinking about those poor kids all day today. Just sad.

Even Piper looked shell shocked and traumatized by Kate's behavior.

Pattypanda said...

I saw a clip of Kate just standing around and everyone else cooking. Looks like Sara should have said "hey Kate, come help feed YOUR kids."

Barb said...

Last night's episode certainly put the lie to Kate's constant claim that she 'puts the kids first' and 'does everything for the children'.
At the campsite, the entire Palin family took care of the Gosselin kids - Kate did not lift a finger to help and had zero interaction with her kids. In fact, it was touching to see Sarah's dad - a retired teacher - give the kids the one-on-one attention you never see them get from their own mother.
At the end, when Kate announced they were leaving (because SHE was unhappy) but the kids wanted to stay, she threatened them with abandonment and you could see how terrified they were.
When I was growing up, my family went camping every summer. My mother is definitely not an outdoors person - her idea of a vacation is a five-star resort - but she went along with us because she wanted us, her kids, to have that experience. That's what a good parent does - put the kids' best interests ahead of her own.
But with Kate, it's all about her, only about her, all the time.
Then,

Tami said...

about Alexis (?) leaving the bedroom at night, where here sisters slept, to go and sleep in the basement. I find that interesting. Why would a baby of 3 or 4 go into the basement to sleep? Yet that would be okay with the parents?"
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I think it was established that at this point John was sleeping in the basement, so she may have been going downstairs to be with him.

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That is not how it was told on the show though. The parents stated they put her down there because she bothered the others. The sheeple stuck up for her and said the kid deserves it for bothering everyone and that it is not a big deal to make a 4 year old sleep in the basement alone! For all we know, Jon could have been in the garage apartment and not the basement though. They always showed a bed down there made up for her.

Been There Done That said...

hannah said...
Somtimes, I wonder if Jon really wanted to do this show.

I feel bad for the kids. I dont get how a judge can see the shows and her leaving them with nannies and not allowing them to be with who they want when shes gone, and not seeing how its harming the kids.


Is tlc paying off this Judge. Or is he just stupid.

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Social workers every where have lots more work than they could ever do. They are always understaffed.

It will take more than what is already known to get any kind of attention from authorities. It is not that easy.

It is ALWAYS preferable to leave kids with their mothers.

There are too many little kids that fall through the cracks already.

There are dangerous and disasterous conditions that kids go through -- far more than what the little Gosselins go through.

It isn't the way of America to remove kids from their homes just because their mother is mean and selfish. It takes a lot more than that.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Since the whole "Can Do K8" concept so miserably failed, TLC seems at a loss as how to spin K8G.

K8G's idea of a great episode would seem to be having The Star arrive at a 5 Star resort, being absolutely catered to from the moment her pedi'd feet departed the limo.

Her kids, all dressed identically so as to ensure NO ONE missed it that The Gosselins were here, would dutifully walk behind their mother in a straight and silent line, military-like.

The episode would show K8G being pampered in every possible way, while the kids sat patiently by, each of them taking a turn at telling the camera that K8G 'is the best mom in the world!'.

There'd be sunshine, ocean, prepared cuisine, and someone else would be looking after the kids - it would be another K8Extravaganza, "Watch Me Be Treated As I So Deserve!".

But none of this would matter.
K8G would STILL whine, complain, and criticize. It's what she does best.

Jane in California said...

Khate's bullying of the children has escalated. Her threats of abandonment are commonplace now.
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That's the thing about parenting via bullying and threats. You have to keep escalating as each level loses effectiveness after awhile. It's the way of all abusive relationships - starts off with the little things and only gets worse and worse over time.

After awhile, the threats of abandonment won't work very well either, when finally one or more of the children wise up and say, "fine, I'd rather be a ______ than a Gosselin. Leave me behind!"

If the story about Kate shaking Mady is true, this is probably the next step after threats stop working. She might have tried a bribe, or a threat to get Mady to behave as she wished. If neither worked, then I could see Kate's temper snapping and she literally shakes her own child to "make her" behave.

This is dreadful, except that it might just take this level of abuse for someone to finally, FINALLY, step in and call CPS, or get outsiders involved in what's going on here. Of course, if that happens, TLC will throw Kate completely to the wolves, feign innocence and quietly tell interns to destroy any footage that makes them complicitous is this behavior.

Ohio Buckeye said...

No matter what the 'do, no matter the cost of getting the newest 'do, K8G still has that big, honkin' flap of hair over her forehead and wonky eye.

THIS from the mom who berated Cara on camera and forced the child to undergo an unwanted haircut for committing the moral sin of (gasp!) having hair hanging in her eyes?

Silver Granny said...

I like creature comforts. I wouldn't want to camp in the rain, but I could put up with roasting marshmallows and fishing in the rain.

I think everybody knew from the get-go that the Gosselins had no intention of sleeping in a cold, wet tent that night. I wouldn't have wanted to.

But for several thousand dollars, I certainly would have done it.

I am a senior citizen. My 78 year old sis and I went for a walk in the Utah mountains. We saw a sign that told us we were in bear country.

I paused and said I didn't think we should go on. My 78 year old sister just charged ahead! She said she hadn't come this far to be scared by a bear!

I thought it was fool-hearty, but I realized if we did meet a bear, my sis would scare the bear more than the bear would scare her!

So, on we went. We saw no bears. Thank Goodness!

Ohio Buckeye said...

Does K8G's stomping off, refusing to sleep in the tent overnight define her as NOT A Contract Honorer, as she has previously boasted of herself?

OR was this entire FUBAR merely a planned and scripted way for K8G to play the foil to Silly Sarah's equally scripted Frontier Woman persona?

Either way, it was just the usual drivel from TLC.

K8 Fan said...

I just saw parts 1,2,3&5 on YouTube. I missed part 4. It was pretty sad. I think Sarah seems like an awesome mom. Poor Piper, she was SOOOO excited to meet k8 and the kids, but when they left, Sarah asked piper if she wanted to walk them to the van, piper's eyes got big and she quickly shook her head "no!". Lol. That was classic. I also caught when one of the tups asked for a marshmallow, Sarah said "you'll have to ask your mother" in a not very cheerful tone, almost as if she was sure K8 would say no.... Then when K8 said they were leaving Sarah said "really?!?! How are you gonna break it to the kids?!?!". She knew they'd be heartbroken K8 just says "cone on kids. Let's go." she didn't even care. How could she be THAT cold. The kids were in fleece jackets with no gloves and Palins weren't wearing gloves and none of them were cold, so it couldn't have been THAT bad. She could suck it up for her kids?!?!
The Palin family seemed so much happier and more relaxed once K8 was gone.

The Eyes Have It said...

No matter what the 'do, no matter the cost of getting the newest 'do, K8G still has that big, honkin' flap of hair over her forehead and wonky eye.

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Should Ted Gibson multi-task and perform eye surgery while he's at work on her hair?

-At Law said...

Probably neither. A judge can only rule on what is presented factually in court. Jon and his lawyers would have to get the judge to allow the presentation of clips from the show for them to be considered as evidence. And then Kate could argue that it was all edited, and didn't really happen the way it seemed.

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Nobody seems to understand that this was not about how harmful or beneficial (filming) is to the children. This was about who has the RIGHT TO DECIDE whether to film or not to film. The judge went with court documents and ruled that she has the right. He may be totally opposed to filming children, and may hate reality shows in general, but his personal feelings did not or cannot enter into this. He has to make his decision based on the law. Obviously there was enough evidence in the signed, written agreements that stated that she has the right to decide.

Drake said...

Apologies if this has already been posted, but the "TV by the Numbers" website is reporting that the ratings of Sarah Palin's show went up 11% when Kate was on it.

Last week's show had 2.78 million viewers; this week's had 3.1 million.

The website is saying that this little bump is probably much lower than what TLC had hoped for.

gherkin said...

According to Popeater, Kate is now telling people that SHE can run for public office and be a political figure. LOL. Her ego knows no bounds. But, hey, maybe that can be her next TLC show---they can follow her on the campaign trail.

I loved how she was chomping on her gum in the Alaska episode. She looked so sophisticated!

Amanda, Iowa said...

All things aside. Forget the cold, rain, hunger, muskito's or anything else that could have bothered her Higness. She knew she was being filmed, she knew she was gonna be on national!!!!! tv and still she couldnt hold herself together for crying out loud?
She knows every move she makes is scrutinized, how stupid is she? Really!
Poor kids.

The Blame Game said...

I think Khate has pretty much sunk her boat on the "I'm a big ratings draw" thing. Even with all the promotion and exploitation of the kids on this episode she only drew 11%. And that is with Jimmie Kimmel announcing to the world that he himself would indeed be watching. I am going to try to remember to watch him tonight to see what he has to say about what he saw. Someone in the media needs to speak up for the kids and it is sure not going to be stupid showbiz tonight. They have a teaser up about her new do, I just walked out of the room so I wouldn't have to throw up. I guess they didn't get the memo about the mom of 8 once again threatening her kids with abandonment on national TV with their poor, tired, broken spirits exploited for the all to see and apparently condone as they keep trying to push this useless creature taking up valuable space on God's green earth down our thoats.

Gina is a party to abuse said...

Great Expose` of Kate on Sarah Palin's Alaska! They showed the true, rude, hateful, ungrateful, witch! It showed her total lack of concern or care for her children, and her total focus on herself.

She really is mentally unstable. Those kids need to be taken away from her. They really do.

Shame on Steve. I have no regard for that sychophant parasite. And shame on his WIFE as well! They are contributing to the abuse of these sweet helpless children by their silence on the truth of the situation....all for MONEY! Sick what people will do for money. Turn a blind eye to abuse and neglect as well as sell your marriage and self respect for MONEY. There is a special spot in Hell for this kind of wickedness.

ChurchMouse said...

"gherkin said...
...According to Popeater, Kate is now telling people that SHE can run for public office and be a political figure. LOL. Her ego knows no bounds. But, hey, maybe that can be her next TLC show---they can follow her on the campaign trail."

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Paging Tina Fey, paging Tina Fey...

Merrilee said...

Amanda, Iowa said...
All things aside. Forget the cold, rain, hunger, muskito's or anything else that could have bothered her Higness. She knew she was being filmed, she knew she was gonna be on national!!!!! tv and still she couldnt hold herself together for crying out loud?
She knows every move she makes is scrutinized, how stupid is she? Really!
Poor kids.

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Kate is always right.

Haven't we learned that yet? She doesn't care if she was scrutinized, because she was RIGHT!

She doesn't care at all if anyone agrees with her or not, because other's opinions mean nothing to her.

She is ALWAYS right.

Michelle said...

My favorite moment was when the twit found out the hotdog she was about to take a bite of was made from Moose! Priceless!

Although I am not a Sarah fan, I didn't think she would put up with much BS from the whiny one. I found it all funny how Sarah just kept going and including the kids with different things. It was like someone finally paid attention to them. Not just attention but showed them things and did things with them. The rocks on the ground in the shape of Alaska was cool. The marshmallow comment was hysterical. all the while the poor whiny one stood under the tent and showed America how stupid she really is. She left no doubt about who is most important in her life.

ahhhh...Alaskan wilderness: no cigs, no wine, no cell phone service, no limos, no 5 star cuisine, a little rain, a fishing pole, a campfire, a river, a bush plane, beautiful vistas, and one whiny bitch. wow!

Room With A View said...

...According to Popeater, Kate is now telling people that SHE can run for public office and be a political figure.

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Yeah, right. Jon said that she has no idea what is going on in the world because she never reads newspapers or watches the news on television. I'd love for someone to ask Kate her opinion of the new health care bill. She'd say, "Health care bill? I always pay all of my bills if I have enough money in my purse...if Jon hasn't taken everything out of the account."

Did anyone notice the ENVY when she looked at the view from the Palin's house? It was difficult for her to compliment Sarah. She just kind of remarked about the view. I could just see the wheels turning in her head as she thought, "I could have this." The view from Sarah's house made the "mine all mine" statement made from Kate's window seem pathetic next to what Sarah looks at every day, and I think Kate knew it.

ChurchMouse said...

"Amanda, Iowa said...
...She knew she was being filmed, she knew she was gonna be on national!!!!! tv and still she couldnt(sic) hold herself together for crying out loud?
She knows every move she makes is scrutinized, how stupid is she?..."

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Kate:(to producer) Wow, I'm sorry I had such a meltdown. Low blood sugar. You're not going to show any of the bad stuff, are you?

Producer: Sugar, sweetie, of course not. We'll just show the kids having fun. You'll love it...

Honestly,hmm ironicly, said...

We can all have our political opinions of Sarah, but do you all realize that Sarah acts just like a Mom, when kids get bored or you want to make them feel a part of everything, everything, everything, you have them do things like carrying the sticks, learning from the Granddad (they loved him, didn't they, this wish they had one in their lives) and picking up the rocks. Sarah does connect with children as she has successfully raised a nice family (I don't want to hear about Bristol as she still conducts herself with class and I admire that she stood on that stage pregnant while her Mother was running for office and that her mother was not ashamed of her either) It takes a woman who loves children to connect with children. She and her whole family put themselves on the children's level and everyone had fun. But Kate?

Well, I guess this is her "schtick" as they call it in show business. She loves being hated, that is how she stays on the cover of everything, right? I don't know. My hubby said she certainly is not sexy or attractive but has a big head with that awful hair.

Yes, I agree with a previous post that Kate use to be cute and wholesome, with blue eyes, light, short hair but she never could smile and laugh, she just couldn't do it. Her Brand took over and she ran a coorporation.......that ran her husband out. She will run her children out, one by one, yes she will, no doubt. She will get the Karma.

What did Miley Cyrus' Dad say about her latest escapade? "it is out of my control".......well, he created that, putting her on stage, in TV. Now the parents are divorcing and that 18 yr old has no family life, but heartache. Sad, what is played out in public and allowed by Kate to be discussed and shown about her own babies..

Are you sure she is their mother?

I gotta wonder about that.

heaven said...

I happened to catch the part where Khate said they were leaving and she started asking the kids if they wanted to go and at first they said NO..but then Khate said something to the effect of "if you don't go with me you are not a Gosselin anymore and you could see one of the little girls think about it for a minute as to what answer Khate wanted and then the little one decided to go. Khate is just cruel.

NoUse4Kate said...

Well, even DH heard about this episode. We both had a very long day working and he came down here to see what I was doing. He wanted to see the videos on youtube. So we watched.

He yanks my chain about my disgust for k8 and I think up until tonight he thought I was exaggerating a bit on just how awful she is. He never cared for the way she treated Jon but didn't think she was all that bad.

Anyway, he was standing here and got a kick out of Sarah with the gun. He was disgusted with how k8 was standing in the tent, not mingling with others and not playing with her kids and said if you are getting paid to be there, if the cameras are rolling, you suck it up and get out there. Then....his jaw about hit the ground when he heard her make the Palin/Gosselin comment to the kids. My daughter was standing there and she blurted out that k8 was such a b*tch to say that to her kids. Now dh sees exactly what I have seen for sooooooo long.

The "woman" is completely sick and twisted. Was TLC letting her hang herself? After seeing this, I do believe that is exactly what they were doing. I haven't seen any episodes since the divorce. I am not sure that I regret seeing this tonight as it just reinforced everything I have thought about her. Dear God please help these children. :(

lindahoyt said...

Where oh where was, "can do Kate", in Alaska?

Gaby said...

I remember seeing a report last summer while K8 was still filming in Alaska ,that Kate and purse boy disappeared and left the kids for two days. I wonder where they went off to and what happend with the kids within those two days? Sorry if someone brought this up earlier.
But if this indeed happend ,then it goes to show you what a self-centered wench kate really is.

Can't See Sheep said...

gherkin said...
According to Popeater, Kate is now telling people that SHE can run for public office and be a political figure. LOL. Her ego knows no bounds. But, hey, maybe that can be her next TLC show---they can follow her on the campaign trail.
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OMG she saw Sara Palin's house & decided she has to have one like it now, her current one will no longer be good enough. She should know she doesn't have enough sheeple to get into office & in PA it'd do her no good, Rep. Murt's there & I'm sure he'd have a few interesting things to say.

This remind's me of when she was on the Emmy's & then wanted to be an actor, yeah, good luck on either one of those Frankenkreider, these are not careers that simply mainfest because katiekins wants them to, you actually have to put work into them, real effort.

How on earth did she become a nurse, that requires a great deal of effort, I'm starting to wonder if she slept with someone to get that piece of paper. Sorry, she just seems so useless to me.

Amy too said...

You blow up those air beds, put a sleeping bag on top of it,keep your feet nice and warm with cozy socks, sweat suit and into the sleeping bag, which zips right up and you are as warm as toast. You are listening to the water in the creek/lake and if it starts to drizzle, you can hear that on the roof of the tent and in the water, nothing calmer than the sound of relaxing water for a good night's sleep.

Kate left and those little kiddies couldn't get to know that feeling of a solid nights' sleep, no lights, no TV, no screaming, no fighting, just being outdoors all day, makes them want to sleep. Just wonderful and they will indeed remember the Pahlin Family and the extended family.

Someone, like one of her crew members, should have thrown Kate into the Lake......damn, that would have made my day, then a bear would attack her as she smelled to high heavens of perfume, I'll bet. Yep, she would do something that dumb in the wilderness, wear perfume and hair spray. Da dumb kate.

Well, the kids are gonna have to grow a think skin, cause being with their mother is going to be hell on this very earth.

How long do you think it will take for one of them to try to hit her back when she hits them? Not long, not after 12 or 13. Her voice alone is too much.

Also, under that awning, she looked like a smacked booty, that is what her face and hair look like. She is not attractive any longer, she is after all, a plain person and now she looks like a clown.

frankenkrieder fan club said...

I always wondered about her nursing degree, did she get a B.S. in Nursing? We know she has BS but a science degree in nursing takes hard work and she does not seem the type, not at all.

Are you sure she completed a BS program or a 2 yr program with a window to finish her credits?

Tell me she has a Registered Nurse License in the State of Pa. We can check on that one.

People need respect said...

C said she doesn't tip and treats the locals badly.

I wrote a post a few months ago about that. My dgtr's girlfriends work in a couple of the stores, have encountered her, she is demanding, rude, arrogant and down right acts entitled. She does not say please of thank you and she does not want to be stared at. She has reported many employees to the mgr for staring at her. She is so famous, right?

I worked near a place that Bob Hope frequented many years ago. He had no entourage, walked right up to everyone who he thought wanted to approach him, shook hands, signed pieces of paper and wished them well. He joked with people, he was a very nice, friendly person. In all the times I saw him, 7 or 8, no change in his personality. Very big tipper also. Nice to be acknowledged by the big, famous and wealthy.

No Kate is cheap, parks in fire lanes, expects everyone at Mail Boxes to help her with everything. She has no mail delivered to her home, nada, not even a newspaper, but then she probably doesn't buy one either. Every one of those big, big boxes comes through their office in her town and unless she gets them consent to deliver to her house, the oriental maid runs down the driveway and drags boxes up the driveway and Steve helps sometimes.

Oh yes

ChurchMouse said...

Let's see how TLC will spin Ms. Gosselin now.

Will they have the intern who writes, "Kate's Take" come up with some attempt to justify her behavior? Some cutesy-wutesy excuses? "Some days Moms just don't want to..."

Or shall this turn into The Episode That Shall Not Be Named, and never mentioned again?

After all, it's Christmastime. And we all know what that means.

Photo ops!

Vanessa said...

I agree with the post:
She finally showed everyone who "really" is number ONE.

Vanessa said...

Hmmm...are they throwing her under the bus just like they did to Jon?
yes, karma is a bitch Kate, just like you!

Anne Marie said...

The Gosselins' next trip will be to Australia and New Zealand over the New Year's break. I bet Steve will be along for that trip.

The Blame Game said...

The sadder part is you could tell that wasn't their first "you're not a Gosselin" rodeo. That is probably the same trick she uses to get them perform and/or film when they are dog tired, hot/cold/hungry, and would love to have just a lttle Wii time.

It was almost like a power thing when Sarah said how are you going to break to the kids i.e. they are going to want to stay. So Khate pulls out her little "you're not a Gosselin" trick which of course worked very well. Children's number 1 fear, abandonment and she uses it liberally.

That my dear Sarah that is how you do it, see - not one tear was shed. See how the little Gosselins put down their smores and rocks and lined up all in a row with their little heads down and marched through the brush to the plane without looking back or saying good bye.

And to think they did it all without mosquito spray that their mom conveniently forgot camping at a creek in the Alaskan wilderness that can only be reached by plane. She forgot the spray, but didn't forget to mention that she forgot the spray - practically the first words out of her mouth.

How many times have those poor kids cried themselves to sleep in the quiet of the night.

NT said...

I think it might be a good idea for her to try and run for office. Think of all the dirt that will finally come out about her. And when she totally fails maybe her ego will be defated.

muchsmartermom said...

Kate--you are a horrible excuse for a Mother!
I hate camping too--but I suck it up and make it fun for my kids a couple of times a year! They love it--rain or shine.
You ungrateful witch--to not embrace the opportunity of a lifetime! And you were getting paid!!!
God forbid you get a little wet, and a little cold. If you had moved and participated in your childrens' life, you may have been able to warm your cold heart, thus improving circulation.
Then to ask your children if they wanted to stay or go and they said stay--and you dragged them out of their anyway!!!!! GRRRR, are you kidding me--parenting 101!!!!!! Then threaten to leave them!!!!!
UGGGG!!!
Get off TV-sign up for as many parenting classes you can find. GET SOME DAMM THERAPY!!!

Gaby said...

"I'm cold to the bone!"

You sure are Kate!

SisterScandinavia said...

I can't help wonder, what is a career as a reality show villain like? I think Kate will qualifyt, people like watching her and be disgusted by her. It will probably land her some more TV time.

But will it really give her sponsors as she so obviously wants? If Kate's new thing will be horrible bitch and bad mother everyone love to hate, do companies really want to be associated with that?

seasidebreeze said...

I watched the episode on YouTube. Kate's behavior was typical of her - very negative and selfish. I can't help wondering, though, if she was in on it, at least a little bit. It seems she truly doesn't care how she appears to the public, as long as her name stays in the media. This episode gives her the attention she craves, as her name has been all over the place this past week. It's crazy, but she seems to love any attention she can get. I also was wondering if the producers told Sarah to go on about Kate's behavior while on camera to amp up the drama. When Sarah asked Piper if Piper wanted to see them off, it almost seemed staged how she asked it. Just my opinion. It seems like TLC definitely knew Kate was not going to do well with the camping trip and set her up...and had Sarah in on that so they could create the contrast between the two. Of course the saddest part of all of this, is that 8 kids are used as pawns in TLC's game...for ratings and money. Very sad.

ashamom said...

As a mom of 9 kids, I never really get a minute without someone asking me for something. I hear "Mama" all the time. Especially when we go camping.
Isn't it funny that her kids never turn to her for anything?
My husband couldn't believe that she just stood there doing NOTHING! What a "MOM"!!

Also, if she only moved around, she would have been warm like everyone else.

Mattenylou said...

More fibbing!!!

I love her comment... "I can HONESTLY say I've never been camping"...

YooHoo? Kate honey, didn't your parents own a campground when you were growing up? Didn't you ever step out into your own backyard??

Yeesh, she acts like this camping experience is so foreign to her when it's part of her upbringing!! ... maybe she's forgotten her roots.. or just chooses to ignore the ties to her family AGAIN!!!

She boasts about how wonderful these filmed trips are for the kids... too bad she can't enjoy them herself!

I felt bad for the kids when she threatened to leave them there if they didn't want to leave with her... did you see the expression on their little faces? How sad!

Sharla said...

I always wondered about her nursing degree, did she get a B.S. in Nursing? We know she has BS but a science degree in nursing takes hard work and she does not seem the type, not at all. Are you sure she completed a BS program or a 2 yr program with a window to finish her credits? Tell me she has a Registered Nurse License in the State of Pa. We can check on that one.

This one has been hashed over too many times to count. Please don't take it up again. I'm answering merely for the new reader's benefit. Kate has a nursing program certificate. She did a two year program and has no degree.

Nina said...

The Gosselins' next trip will be to Australia and New Zealand over the New Year's break. I bet Steve will be along for that trip.

Where did this rumor originate? Sources say Jon has the children for New Year's and there is no way TLC is springing for a trip that expensive with her ratings. Has anyone seen filming since Halloween?

Brummygirl said...

Kate run for office? She cannot put two words together without mistreating the language.
Her platform would be, how to grift the public in three easy lessons!

Jane in California said...

It's interesting how lately there have been several positive stories re Jon, and Jon and the children. The latest I saw was a link someone provided was about how Jon was going to take the children to buy a Christmas tree, and how although he didn't have a lot of money, he just wanted them to have a good time. Also referenced how he has settled down, gotten a "normal" job, and is in a happy stable relationship.

Whoever is doing his PR is top notch. Keep it up. I truly hope Jon and Ellen are very happy together and stay together a long time. She seems like a nice woman, and anyone who willingly steps into the mess that Kate creates around her, without being an attention hound (*cough cough* Hailey Glassman?), deserves a lot of credit.

Ultimately, the big money is going to dry up for Kate. What will she do then? I predict major flame out. I jut hope Jon is there to take over care of the children once she loses it.

Gina, stop protecting abuse said...

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K8 Fan said...

I think it's funny how ugly all our husbands think Kate is.
Even 2 years ago when she looked so wholesome and (IMO) beautiful, my hubbs thought she was ugly. You couldn't pay him enough to be married to her.
Goes to show that inner beauty is actually VERY important to most guys.
You can look as much like barbie as you want to Kate, it's not gonna hide your ugliness.

I can't help but wonder (aside from the camping trip which there is no excuse to stand under a tent and expect someone else to take care of your EIGHT kids) if a lot of this is in the editing. There have been other reality stars that have said "oh, yeah the producers made so-and-so look like a real bitch but she really wasn't THAT bad" or "they made that disagreement look like a big dramatic know down drag out fight but it was really just a simple dispute and everyone got over it". I am not saying Kate isn't a bitch, but maybe it's not QUITE as bad as we think. Maybe she isn't like that 24/7/365. Maybe the producers just show the bad for shock value/ratings.
Parenting gets harder as kids get older. Young couples with their 1st baby think they are going through the hardest part with diapers and midnight feedings.... Then your kid turns 9 and comes home from school crying because someone doesn't want to come to his birthday party. THATS hard. She's got that times 8. I can't even imagine.

frankenkrieder fan club said...

Thank you Sharla for answering my question. If Kate has a 2 yr certificate in Nursing, then that explains why she is not going back to Nursing. She would have to take orders from a Registered Nurse and an Asst Dir of Nursing and a DON, Director of Nursing.

Kate does not get along with any women; not documented. I saw the video of 2 nurses who worked with Kate on the weekends at a dialysis center. They said her personality on her show was exactly what they encountered working with her.

Obviously there is nothing good to be said about Kate and in that smaller community, if you said anything, you would be in the news.

It is a small world there and no one wants to be known as being interviewed for anything media wise. I can understand that. There is a big Kreider family and there is also the Gosselin family and extended family and friends of those family members. Remember Kate & Jon's original wedding. Look at the members who were in attendance.

Not exactly Kate's friends but friends and relatives of both families.

Yet she has made it impossible for anyone to be involved with her children. Sadder than you know, especially in that area.

It would be seen as "trying to grab headlines" against the children and harming the children more. Plus there are a lot of relatives still living in that area and they already hear enough about frankenkate, no doubt as I have heard it.

Bet no one would hire her back in the nursing field anyhow. She probably hasn't got a good reference from anyone she worked for. Not with that attitude.

So she goes about being mean and loves that she makes money from it on TV, etc.

Everyone has her number except the people in other parts of the country who are members of her fan club. She is not a nice person.

Iris said...

Kate went to a three year nursing school. So that is considered a dipolma program.

Be Glad to Have Peace & Quiet on our Roads Again said...

Is TLC throwing her under a bus? Nope, they love it, gets her on all the web sites/blogs/talked about on the tv shows. Even an extravagant hair cut gets her on TV, blogs. Everyone loves to hate her.

That is what they seem to be capitalizing on is her natural abilities: anger, selfishness, mean, bad mother, ocd, lying, lying, lying, and stealing. Yes, she is a grifter.

Saw a 700 club with her professing her religion and guidance from above. What a piece of garbage to do that and then run around with her breasts hanging out.

Appeared on Ellen's show and says she doesn't know what the magazine covers are about. "Some of us stay at home cooking".

She does not cook, the live in Nanny does that. Has been in that house 24/7 since E Town.

Wonder if Kate pays the SS taxes for her? She is an employee, full time. She cooks, cleans and does anything Kate wants done.

I also want to say something about the Pap people. They do not sit there around the clock. They show up at specific times, all together, or that one person, depending on whether or not they have been called into town to shoot and make it look like "kate did not pose" and she knows them all, so do the people who own their own stores. Yes, they do.

Nursing and Her Attitude said...

Sorry to repeat but some of the posters here are new and don't know her educational background.

Just to clarify, although this has been clarified to death:

You can become a Registered Nurse by completing the following:

Associate Degree Program - 2 yr
Hospital Certificate Program - 3 yr
Bachelors Degree Program - 4 yr

If Kart did a three year program at a hospital, she would have no degree.

If she went to a two year college, she would have graduated with an Associate Degree in Nursing.

All three of the above listed programs entitle the graduate to sit for the licensing exam to be a registered nurse. Pass the exam = registered nurse.

If I remember correctly, she went to a two year program so probably has an associate degree in nursing.

She was likely a 'staff nurse' and reported to a 'charge nurse' and department supervisor and Nursing Director.

I would bet the charge nurse would have the most trouble with her, Kart would argue about assignments and scheduling. Poor charge nurse.

I always like to throw this little tidbit out there in cases like hers: "50% of all nurses graduated in the bottom half of their class", and I wonder where Kartilla the Hun ranked in her class.

That's why I always have someone sitting with a hospitalized family member - and I am an RN with a Masters Degree.

It prevents accidents with those 50% nurses, and the other good nurses don't mind having another set of eyes to monitor things.

Before I retired, I always welcomed family members 24 hrs/day. I always explained everything before I did it and taught them about every drug I was giving them. I welcomed their questions as opportunities to teach them how to better care for themselves inpatient and when they went home. Can't say I believe Kart would ever feel like I did.

I actually cringe when I think of someone asking Kart a question, or challenging her in any way.

One lucky thing for patients everywhere is that Kart is so far gone from clinical practice that she would not be hired without her completing some kind of refresher course or going for a bachelors degree.

The filter there is that I doubt she could finish a professional 4 yr degree. She doesn't have the smarts, attitude, work ethic or strength to do so. Can you just imagine her having to deal with 'icky boy patients'?

Nursing programs are hard work. She'd be dropped from the program pretty quick for being unstable.

No college wants to graduate someone like her and have her represent the school.

I predict some breakdown/meltdown somewhere in the future with Jon getting the kids from her.

On another point, sorry to go on like this, I would love to see shops quit catering to her. If she complains to a manager for clerks "staring at her" the manager should tell her with a smile, "that's because you are such a bitch - I can see exactly why they do it - and I have no intention of punishing them". Then maybe she'd shop somewhere else!

The Blame Game said...

Maybe she could run for mayor of Ghettoville as she calls it, they might just run out her of town.

Leigh Ann said...

I can't help but wonder (aside from the camping trip which there is no excuse to stand under a tent and expect someone else to take care of your EIGHT kids) if a lot of this is in the editing. There have been other reality stars that have said "oh, yeah the producers made so-and-so look like a real bitch but she really wasn't THAT bad" or "they made that disagreement look like a big dramatic know down drag out fight but it was really just a simple dispute and everyone got over it". I am not saying Kate isn't a bitch, but maybe it's not QUITE as bad as we think. Maybe she isn't like that 24/7/365.
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I've believed for a long time that they edit the show to make the Gosselins look bad. On the deep sea fishing trip, they could have showed a whole lot of fishing and little bit of upchucking. And I think they edit the Duggars to look as good as possible. I know those kids squabble and they've shown outtakes of the toddlers whacking each other with toys. But even with editing you do have to have something to work with. Kate did throw down her hot dog and whine like a two-year-old who needed a nap and she did take her kids home before they even had time to finish their smores. She may have eaten something later and said thank you to SP at some point. But the other two things shouldn't have happened at all. And the kids were the best I've seen them in ages. They were having so much fun and really get into things, no hitting or arguing over whose turn it was. Maybe they did and it was edited out (that would be a first) but at least we got to see the sweet kids that they probably are.

Not a Gosselin said...

If Kate is even halfway serious about running for some kind of public office; even if it's just sewer commissioner, she's more delusional than I thought.

K8 Fan said...

Leigh Anne: good points. You DO have to have something to work with. And her behavior was disgusting, I agree.

I know for a fact that I am not always the best mother or wife. In a week, a camera crew could probably get 20 minutes of me being lazy, or arguing with my husband, or frustrated with my kids. And if they edited it properly, I am sure a lot of people wouldn't see me as a hard working mom or wife, but quite the opposite. But something that just dawned on me is that my actions off camera would NOT support that opinion. Editing can't be to blame for her nasty attitude towards those employed by the service industry, or her leaving her kids home with a sitter for 2 days to go get a hair cut. As far as her behavior towards Jon goes, we don't know what he does to provoke her, BUT as an adult she is in charge of her own actions (and reactions). She's like a bully. Until someone stands up and fights back she's not gonna stop.

Eileen In ChiTown said...

""SisterScandinavia said...
I can't help wonder, what is a career as a reality show villain like? ""

Kate - the white Omarosa
And we all how successful she turned out to be.

Free the Gosselin 8

Leigh Ann said...

know for a fact that I am not always the best mother or wife. In a week, a camera crew could probably get 20 minutes of me being lazy, or arguing with my husband, or frustrated with my kids.
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That's what I always said about those nanny shows. Put a camera 24/7 in our house for a week and you'll easily come up with a half hour of yelling and bickering. And I have an only child, that would be between Katy and I! I'll agree Kate seems to be a pretty awful person by all accounts on and off the camera. But TLC seems to go out of their way to make the kids look bad and I just don't believe they're like that all the time. They're probably like any other siblings, they have times they fight and times they play together nicely. The guy who blogged about being in the airport with them on the way to Alaska talked about how well behaved they were. And they seemed to do great on this trip, too. I just don't want those eight little kids to get bad reputations because TLC has an agenda. Kate is doing her own damage. But if she did ever wander out to the campfire and try to warm her hands, we never saw it.

Rebecca said...

I understand the view of wanting to believe the best of the children but I also believe in reality. The kids didn't get kicked out of school for being perfectly behaved. They are learning from their mother and by all accounts at least when at school or with her, their behavior is not "well behaved" at all times.

Jane in California said...

K8 fan said:
I am not saying Kate isn't a bitch, but maybe it's not QUITE as bad as we think. Maybe she isn't like that 24/7/365. Maybe the producers just show the bad for shock value/ratings.
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I am sorry if I throw cold water on your theory, but unfortunately, Kate is probably much, much worse than anything we ever get to see on the show. And that is what worries me so deeply.

There are certain facts that cannot be denied, and they show Kate's true nature. They all involve a level of negligence to what I'd consider outright abuse of her own children, and they are all edited versions we saw on the show!

1. Gumgate. Little Collin gets a speck of gum on his beloved lovey. Kate has had a bad day and she takes it out on Collin, literally screaming in his little face about how she is going to throw his beloved lovey away. All over a speck of gum. Disgraceful, hideous, hateful behavior. Shocking behavior in a mother who is supposed to love her children more than herself.

2. Collin constipated episode. This is where poor little Collin is in actual, visible pain while they all are at a furniture store picking out bunk beds. Kate ignores his pain because to her, it was more important she take her sweet time picking out bunk beds. Finally, Jon takes him out to the van and helped him get some relief (which was filmed - extreme invasion of this little boy's privacy). Again - to me, this is a shocking display of complete lack of concern for her own child's well being.

3. Joel-gate, in which Joel, feverish, sick with the flu, vomiting, is placed by Kate on the laundry room floor with nothing but a thin blanket. She then leaves him in the dark, alone. All because he was (in her words) a "vomitous boy." Complete lack of concern that her child is sick and needs care. It takes Jon, on his return home from work, to show some parental concern and actual care for the boy.

There are so many other actual things Kate has done or said to her own children that go way beyond merely being a bitch, and straight into hateful, mean, cruel territory.

If anyone reads these words and still thinks Kate is just misunderstood or edited unfairly, there isn't much more I can say to convince you otherwise. These three things alone are so shocking to me, so completely wrong on many levels, that I need no other evidence to know that Kate is not right in the head and is indeed a terrible person who treats her children cruelly.

Brownstonefan said...

I watched clips on "Youtube" since I refused to give TLC any ratings. At the end, Sarah justified Kate's behavior by saying "if I was on a red carpet, and at all kinds of premiere's, I would be out of my element, too".
Kate is not an actress. This is what she does for a living. She and her children live "real-life" experiences on television. This was Kate's element and she was a witch.

Sadie said...

I really think it is unfair to say that if anyone who graduated in the bottom half of their class must be a bad nurse. Equally unfair to imply that those that graduated in the top half are the good nurses. Probably more to being a good nurse than just grades.

Many people seem to assume that if Kate returned to nursing she would be in a clinical environment. There are many jobs for nurses that do not involve patient contact such as managed care or insurance companies.

K8 Fan said...

Sarah WAS out of her element in 2008 when she ran for VP. And she didn't act like a bitch. If anything she was TOO "average and small town". But she still did her best and put get best foot forward and didn't give up on her dream because she was physically uncomfortable.

Man..... I am just beside my self. That poor little girls face when her mom told her she wasn't a Gosselin. She broke her spirit.... Right there in front of our eyes. And she said "ok mommy. I'll go.".

It's funny. On SPs show it was different crew, different editors, different producers, and we saw a completely DIFFERENT family!!! Maybe I am right. Maybe we dint see the true Kate. Maybe the true Kate us edited out if the show, where I was wrong is that they DO leave the GOOD stuff in!!!! Not the bad!!!!
Sarah Palins show= good kids, bad Kate.
Gosselin show= good Kate, bad kids.
It IS all in the editing!!!!!!

Rebecca said...

The thing is though that even with Kate getting a "good" edit on her own show, thousands upon thousands of people still saw how bad she really has been. A lot of people were never snowed by TLC's PR department.

willowmom said...

Wow. I just checked the most recent comments to "Kate's Take" blog entry about Sound of Music - EPIC change to the tone of the entries since Sunday night - it appears alot a peoples' eyes have been opened.

K8STFU said...

Sarah Palins show= good kids, bad Kate.
Gosselin show= good Kate, bad kids.
It IS all in the editing!!!!!!

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K8 Fan, you are joking right?

K8 Fan said...

K8STFU: no I'm not kidding. But you understood me wrong.
I am saying. All these years, K8's crew did their best to make her look like a good mom with her hands full with 8 unruly children, doing her best. And she still looked like a bitch.
Now SP's crew got some footage and we finally see the "REAL" Gosselin family. Meaning, the kids really aren't the constantly out of control little handfuls they are made out to be (obviously they do have problems I am not discounting that) and Kate really is not the "saint mother" she and HER show always try to paint her out to be.
Obviously her crew is biased. Always trying to make HER look as good as possible. Now the rose colored glasses have been removed from the camera lense, even if just for one day.
Just wanted to clarify. My last post inadvertently implied that I was attempting to make excuses for her.

K8 Fan said...

My "it IS all in the editing" comment was meant to explain that it IS all in the editing that K+8 editors edit out all the bad, trying to make Kate look good.
SP's editors have no reason to do that. So they left it more real.

Leigh Ann said...

t's funny. On SPs show it was different crew, different editors, different producers, and we saw a completely DIFFERENT family!!! Maybe I am right.
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I didn't even think about that. You're right. Maybe that's why we saw all the good behavior from the kids and no air sickness (there was bound to be some, those little planes are bumpy). All I know is it was a nice change to watch the kids enjoying themselves and behaving rather than throwing up and whining from being hungry and tired. That kind of thing happens, it's just nice not to have to see it all the time. And Kate provided plenty of whining, anyway.

Minka's Tail said...

Sarah Palins show= good kids, bad Kate.
Gosselin show= good Kate, bad kids.
It IS all in the editing!!!!

Very astute.
They seemed like different kids, didn't they? Did you see the look on Alexis's face when she saw the salmon skull? And isn't it interesting how they didn't seem to mind fishing with the Palins, but apparently hated it with Jon?

Kate's "brand" is not really of a great mom, but as a suffering mom. I always wondered if the divorce was encouraged by TLC (if you believe she ended the marriage before the adultery scandal.) A married mom in a huge house isn't a person to be pitied. But a SINGLE mom, with BILLS TO PAY and EMOTIONALLY SCARRED CHILDREN--well, that's a whole different story.

Without that angle being played, she seemed petty, selfish, and emotionally unstable--probably the true her.

Berks Has Shoes! said...

If Kate is even halfway serious about running for some kind of public office; even if it's just sewer commissioner, she's more delusional than I thought.

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I was thinking more along the lines of dog catcher. Speaking of which, I hope that poor dog of theirs isn't outside in this arctic weather. It is a fit night for neither man nor beast, and I don't care if the dog house is heated or not. No animal should be outside with sub-zero windchills.

michelle said...

I think Sarah's dad said it best....

paraphrasing...all she did was bitch from the moment she got off the plane....(it's one of the last comments at the end of the show)

that man's not an actor. He called it like it was and told a big story with his one phrase.

Brummygirl said...

The Blame Game said...
Maybe she could run for mayor of Ghettoville as she calls it, they might just run out her of town.
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Yes, she and *The Sheriff* can run it!!!

K8 Fan said...

I can't believe she refers to that town as "ghettosville".
WHAT A SNOB!!!!!!
What I wouldn't give to live there, heck what I wouldn't give to live in their old neighborhood.
If she thinks that's the ghetto she should see the neighborhood I just moved away from for the sake of my children. She wouldn't last one night.
Some people are SO ungrateful!!!!!
FRUSTRATING!!!!!!!
all I can do us pray. For Jon. For the kids. And yes, most if all for Kate.

Gosselin8ComeFirst said...

"gherkin said...
...According to Popeater, Kate is now telling people that SHE can run for public office and be a political figure. LOL. Her ego knows no bounds.
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Kate also said she was going to win DWTS. Delusional much Kate?

K8STFU said...

K8 Fan,

Thanks for your comments, I think you have crossed over from the dark side ! LOL

I do , however, have to disagree with you that it's all editing.

Now, I didn't see the epi, I am just going by all the comments here:

K8 has ALWAYS been a bitch, and she has gotten worse over the years. Of course there is always editing, but I do believe that when the kids are home with K8 , filming with the TLC crew, they ARE probably the unruly , unhappy children that is aired for all to see.

On Sarah's show, they were given lots of attention from some very warm people. From what everyone has said here, the kids had a ball and really responded to the positive attention. They probably were genuinely happy for the few minutes that K8 kept her trap shut before she apparently made everyone leave.

My point is that I think the obvious differences in the children's demeanor has everything to do with their environment and the people they are with and not so much biased editing. JMO of course.

Honestly,hmm ironicly, said...

Someone hit the nail on the head, I think.

How relaxed the kids were, eating from their hands, no outbursts, no crying, etc. Doesn't that seem strange?

Someone said something about TV producer, editors, cameramen? Sarah's crew is out to make the show look "all family warmth" and
perhaps Kate's show is produced to look erratic? So they instill that feeling among the kids to fight, Kate screams, they beat each other. They fight over the smallest thing?

Is it that the kids hate that portion of the acting, but not the travel? Are the kids in on it, as far as "act out" no one wants to watch us be normal? So their childhood is now completely gone if that has been going on.

Whatever happens, I do so hope that Jon gets custody or can afford to take the twins off of Kate at some point. I do feel badly as they do miss their Dad, especially Mady and Kate is going to absolutely destroy that girl, she already is.

As for the tups, well, something is so not right about the Alaska trip with the Pahlins. Why didn't Kate leave the tarp and go out and roust her kids? Was she afraid of the Pahlins? Perhaps that is why?

Those children looked and acted like perfect little kids enjoying themselves, staying occupied and having fun. Is this because Kate couldn't get them upset? Or is this because the Pahlins were that powerful in occupying these 8 kids who seem to live on the edge, nerve wise.

Can you get my drift here?

Are the kids bad or are the kids actually good and growing but anti social because that bitch makes it so.

It is sad when a child does not believe in Santa at 6. No excitement in their lives.

Of course, not the worse thing that can happen.

I went back and checked the history of Kate/grifter. Wow, how do you do that to people, take their money like she and Jon did and now she gets a $2,000 haircut in NY?

People burn in hell for less, honestly, ironicly.

behroke said...

This is hitting the blind gossip sites. Thought you might enjoy.

"This reality star, well not really anymore thank goodness. Anyway, she recently got a $2,000 hair cut and did not tip anyone. She also said thank you to just one person and that was her bodyguard when he opened the door for her. Classless.
"

amrc said...

Ghettosville? Did she say that?

On our local TV tonight, a Philadelphia channel, said that in the Philadelphia area, there are over 40 homeless shelters that house children and women.

As a member of a volunteer organization for 28 yrs, I believe that Ms. Gosselin should count her blessings because some of the families I meet that are homeless once had that big McMansion and the big job with the big salary and they had the nice clothes, vehicles.

Ms. Gosselin, I say to you, be prepared for this life is made up of some very definite instances:
One is that nothing, absolutely nothing lasts forever.

Do try to remember that during these holidays when you and your children are warm, clothed, have beds, travel extensively; that, there are so many homeless families during this 2010 Christmas and almost as many as there were homeless people during the depression. Yes, there are, all around the United States of this America.

Ms. Gosselin, you need to look in that mirror a bit longer and ask yourself "how" you got to where you are. For I feel that a lot of people gave to you from the bottom of their pockets, 2005 for example, to help you, your husband at that time and your babies. You once had family.

If the day comes when you don't have the $$$ to blow on a hair cut, your family would help you out.

So maybe for their sakes, you should consider doing something good for someone beside yourself and I don't mean adding to your kids' toy list.

In the know said...

kate is not home, she is out of town, so the dog is on it's own tonight.

she went from NY to Los Angeles, will be home Sat, coming in BWI in MD. she doesn't like to arr in Phila.

2 baby sitters living there and one cook with the kids, think jon has the kids over the weekend.

she leaves those kids alone with strangers and bodyguards a lot more than anyone knows.she wants like everyone to think she has a job out in L.A. but the baby sitters are new. always new. she kids no one.

Wait until Sat or Sun, you will see she is going to mani pedi and spray tan. so orange. terrible look.

Once Knew Your Kind said...

I just read some posts, while listening to Christmas music.

Cannot wait until the gosselin laws get passed in Harrisburg, this year could be her year.

Didn't tip the shampoo gal at the hairdresser? she is the least paid of all the employees, what is a $5 or $10, when you spend 2,000? Some day, and I hope I see it, she is gonna get hers.

I don't even know what to say about how not tipping in NY, let alone her own neighborhood. The people who work in NY do not get their hair done in NY, Manhattan. They live in outer boroughs, travel into the city to work, hoping to make more money from salary plus tips.

She is a low life, that is for sure.

I have a hard time believing that her own family was not like her.

She publicly grifted? Jon and her family said nothing?

Now she blows $2,000 on a haircut and calls that "I owe it to myself" as if she did something heroic?

What exactly has this bimbo done? Get pregnant? Have a c section while everyone waited on her? Get plastic surgery, now lives in a big house on acres an acres of land?

I am so sad to get so angry; but I am grateful I know mothers that would never do what that woman does to her family.

Write that book Jon, If you don't do another thing in this world, keep writing that book. We need to
know about how she and TLC "pulled the wool over everyone's eyes" especially if the kids have been acting on command. That post really had me thinking. Wow, how terrible is that? They are actors?

Anonymous said...

Just wondering how many real Stars walk around with a bodyguard? They are strolling all over the New York area at this time of the year, no bodyguards.

Was outside the NBC studio and several big names came out and just walked up the street away from us after waving hello. No bodyguards.

Does she do that because she is trying to "look important" well it is just more gossip so that people will talk about her.

Sobby McFibberpants said...

"You want to stay, fine. You are no longer a Gosselin", said the only one who isn't a Gosselin.

Lol, so if Kate doesn't get her way by pouting and whining, she threatens to take their identity.

Newsflash jackass, They are natural born Gosselins by blood. They didn't marry in to the family like you did, and no matter how many moose burgers you throw on the ground, you can never ever take their identities away. Control freak!
Maybe it's because you are a Kreider that you don't enjoy camping, but it was pretty apparent that the Gosselins do.

I gotta ask... said...

What's with calling Sarah Palin "Pahlin"??? I have noticed it in quite a few different postings..... I don't get it...

Catherine said...

Sobby McFibberpants said:
Maybe it's because you are a Kreider that you don't enjoy camping, but it was pretty apparent that the Gosselins do.

That was a great post!!

It galls me the way she uses the Gosselin name like it's hers and hers alone. I would be spittingg glass if I were Jon or a member of his family and I heard her use my name that way, deciding who is and who is not a Gosselin.

My brother's wife hates my entire family, I think because we're happy, and that's not allowed. (She's so much like Kate, it's sick.) When I hear people say, Mrs. X to her, I scream inside. She hates our family, hates my mom, but I have to hear people call her by my mom's good name. I can only imagine how the Gosselin's feel. Extended Gosselin family, I feel for ya!!

SmileyGrl752 said...

If Kate ever DOES decide to run for office, she will lose by a landslide.

On another note, was watching some J&K + 8 moments on YouTube, and couldn't believe what I saw.

1. On one episode, they were having a yard sale in front of some building (not sure what it was), and they had a sign that was supposed to say "Proceeds benefit pediatric cancer research" and "proceeds" was misspelled; it said "prodceeds." Kate threw a fit and had the WHOLE stack of fliers thrown away. Simply because a word was misspelled.

2. One episode Kate slaps Jon on his cheek, then looks embarrassed and quickly rubs his cheek amd tries to justify that it's a "love tap". Jon says something about "I take abuse from her, save me" and Kate goes, "don't play the victim. It's unattractive in a man when he acts victim-ish." Yet now she always plays victim, claiming she can't pay bills, she's a mom of 8 kids, they need the show, she's so lonely, etc. Note again her use of adding "ish" to words- victimish, waterish, slimmish, etc.

3. In the episode where one of the door knobs comes off a door and Kate asks the little kids about it; when she asks the girls, one of them (I think Alexis) tells her it was Hannah, and Kate doesn't ask Hannah about it. Later the girls say the boys did it, and Kate goes to the boys' room. Has Kate favored Hannah since the day she was born, or how old was she before Kate started favoring her? Sorry if this sounds dumb.

Mistletoe and Holly said...

Does she do that because she is trying to "look important" well it is just more gossip so that people will talk about her.

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Re: the bodyguard. He is not there to protect her, nor to make her look more important. He is there to protect other people from her, to make sure that she doesn't go off on them, and to keep her safe from herself when she has melt-downs and goes out of control. When he's finally dismissed -- look out world! There's a maniac on the loose!
Why do you suppose he went camping with them? To protect her from the obsessive kate-haters and fans, not to mention the paps who hide out on the sandbar? To make her look important? Nope -- it's his job to keep her calm.

K8 Fan said...

When the tups were like 3 Hannah started wanting to help Kate with chores. She was expressive at a young age about likes and dislikes, I think she is a lot like Kate (in the good ways ie:organized) so Kate likes that.
I used to think Alexis and Aaden were her favorites. But now I think it's Hannah. She's never seemed to like Joel, she calls him whiney in more than one episode, and she never really seemed to talk about Colin or Leah. I think Cara must be taking this so hard. Her and Jon seem so close. They have a lot of common interest. She is quiet and calm like him. The chaos around her with no one to stop it must just be horrible for her.

Judy said...

Button Button comments on how badly Kate treats Collin:
When we saw him hiding his little face from the cameras, we knew things were not going well for him.

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Does anyone remember when Kate took them all to the doctor for a checkup and was surprised that one of the others was bigger than Collin. She said he must look bigger because of that big head. She has made several comments about his "big head." Does she know nothing about a child's self esteem, self-image?

Poor Collin, poor all of them, is right.

h84kate said...

When I uploaded the episode this time, for some reason Discovery removed part 4 for copyright infringement (and part 1 of the halloween epi). So I changed the named and removed all Palin and Alaska references and re-uploaded. Dunno why they picked that one out.

I knew there would be lovers commenting and defending on my videos. But I am still amazed by their arguments. Kate's not a camper so it wasn't fair. Her coat was cold. It was rainy. Everyone else had warmer jackets. And my least favorite was that the Palin's were bad hosts and should have been more hospitable. huh?

watchdog said...

On Bill O'Reilly's show tonight they showed the clip of K8 throwing down the sandwich in disgust, and the "Pinheads & Patriots" poll question (link in left sidebar) was "Is Kate Gosselin a pinhead or a patriot for going on a camping trip with Sarah Palin?" Then he added, "Of course, we know she's a pinhead. We just want to see by how wide a margin people think she's a pinhead." LOL! That isn't the way I would have worded the question, but it is what it is. I can't wait to see the results tomorrow. I predict it'll be at least 90% "pinhead." Let's all vote!

Lillybug said...

From Radar

EXCLUSIVE: Kate Lied -- Gosselin Kids Were Expelled From School After Hurting An Adult

Kate Gosselin lied when she denied her children Alexis and Collin were expelled from school, and RadarOnline.com has learned exclusively that the situation is far worse than what has been previously reported.

One of the expelled Gosselin kids physically harmed an adult at the school TWO TIMES, creating a situation that caused school administrators to believe they had no choice but to remove that child from school, RadarOnline.com is reporting exclusively.

The nature and extent of the adult's injuries are not known, but the situation was severe enough that it contributed heavily to the school's decision to expel the children. RadarOnline.com has also learned that both of Gosselin children were abusive to other children in the school, creating an untenable situation.

For more
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/12/exclusive-kate-lied-gosselin-kids-were-expelled-school-after-hurting-adult

The Blame Game said...

She said in MB that she had a hard time bonding with Collin because of his "big ole head." It shows. He has really just fallen out of favor with her, you know he tried so hard to please her gathering up all the toys, recharging the batteries on his own and would just jump to help her in any way, but alas it is never enough. He always found a way to busy himself stacking things, etc, and he was good at it. He is not even like the same kid anymore. Khate just doesn't get it - those kids have found a place in not her cold hard heart but many, many more. She is so fortunate that they are healthy and bright but she could care less. And besides I guess I don't look for things like that but I have never even noticed he had a big head. I just saw a bright young kid that was going to do well in life because he was so industrious. Sad, very sad.

Lisa said...

I used to think Alexis and Aaden were her favorites.
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Not me. They always called Alexis the "wild one" didn't they? And wasn't she the one confined to the basement so that she didn't disturb the others in their old house? She never seemed overly fond of any of the boys to me.

Radar is reporting that Kate is full of it about the kids getting expelled. AND they are saying that one of the kids was abusive to an adult! I'm sorry. That is not normal "child of divorce" behavior. These kids have some deep issues that need to be addressed and that's not happening while they are being dragged all over God's green earth being filmed for a tv show! I just feel very sad and frustrated for them. How can their mom be such a stubborn and selfish person not to see that they need a break from the public eye. She is either in deep denial about their problems or just doesn't really care.

ChurchMouse said...

It's Official! Even her beloved Radar Online is tossing Ms. Gosselin to the wolves:

"EXCLUSIVE: Kate's Big Lie -- Gosselin Kids WERE Expelled From School After Hurting An Adult

Kate Gosselin lied when she denied her children Alexis and Collin were expelled from school, and RadarOnline.com has learned exclusively that the situation is far worse than what has been previously reported.

One of the expelled Gosselin kids physically harmed an adult at the school TWO TIMES, creating a situation that caused school administrators to believe they had no choice but to remove that child from school, RadarOnline.com is reporting exclusively.

The nature and extent of the adult's injuries are not known, but the situation was severe enough that it contributed heavily to the school's decision to expel the children. RadarOnline.com has also learned that both of Gosselin children were abusive to other children in the school, creating an untenable situation."

ROL calling Ms. Gosselin a liar? This is huge, especially since to call someone a liar is an open invitation to a lawsuit. Obviously ROL's legal dept. feels that they have nothing to fear.

Wow.

Denni Don't Like K8 said...

I just noticed this morning that ROL is now disclosing that the kids were expelled from their school, and the reasons included hitting of adults, not just children.

LKG said...

Today's Blind Item from Crazy Days and Nights:

"This reality star, well not really anymore thank goodness. Anyway, she recently got a $2,000 hair cut and did not tip anyone. She also said thank you to just one person and that was her bodyguard when he opened the door for her. Classless."
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Yes, classless indeed.

Gaby said...

Radar online is reporting that Kate Gosselin lied about the kids being expelled. Collin and Alexis hurt an adult and it was decided that the children should not remain in the school!
Its funny how the tables are turning on Kate and Radar Onine is posting mainly negative news on their 'queen".

h8k8 said...

In the know said...
kate is not home, she is out of town, so the dog is on it's own tonight.

she went from NY to Los Angeles, will be home Sat, coming in BWI in MD. she doesn't like to arr in Phila....


I wonder if her preference for BWI has anything to do with it being Steve and TLC's home base.

so sick of her said...

Has anyone notice Kate has been playing possum? No new reports, no local shopping, geez, she is hiding. No other media talking about the camp-out? We heard about Jon & kids, going to get a tree. Now the only other thing is more on the lies, Kate told about the 2 tups being expelled. Of course the sheeples will say that Jon or Ellen are making up stories to ROL. Did it occur to the sheeple, that for a price, anyone will talk? Perhaps the locals, and some of the parents or even the kids will talk for a price? or maybe they are just sick of Kate and her antics.

Sandi said...

Radaronline now reporting that Kate lied about the 2 tups being expelled. They're also claiming that the kids were physically abusive not only to other kids, but to teachers as well!

Two things obvious, one, kids who are physically abusive aren't just venting frustration, they're acting out what they've been subjected to themselves at home. The second is that Radaronline is no longer on Team Kate. The only possible reason for that is a green light from TLC to go ahead and make Kate a pariah. TLC is done with Kate, mark my words.

That's a good thing for the world, but bad for the kids. You just know Kate is going to blame them and mess them up even worse.

PA G-ma said...

Oh my....
I guess the Palins make K8's list of "those who do/did not know how to help her".

I did not watch the epi. and I have mixed feelings about the kids having a good time in Alaska. From the comments of those who watched, all of the kids (except Hannah) really had a good time with the Palin family. Was this the reason that K8 put a stop to the fun? The kids had interaction with outsiders who seemed to like them for who they are, kids, just kids having unscripted fun. This seems bittersweet to me, as they now have a taste of the real world and family and extended family. Too bad that it was short-lived.

I often wonder about the production staff of K+8. These people have first hand knowledge of what is going on. I believe that some of them feel for the kids but I guess that in this economy, a job is a job.

RacerMom281 said...

The love fest between her & Radar must be over. They are reporting today that she is a liar...duh. She is SO lying about Colin and Alexis getting expelled. It's pretty disturbing.

I think incoming Gov. Tom Corbett's office should be flooded with letters regarding this train wreck going on in his back yard.

Mother Mary said...

I knew there would be lovers commenting and defending on my videos. But I am still amazed by their arguments. Kate's not a camper so it wasn't fair. Her coat was cold. It was rainy. Everyone else had warmer jackets. And my least favorite was that the Palin's were bad hosts and should have been more hospitable. huh?

My grandmother called that being willfully dumb. When you try to make excuses for what is right in front of your face. She said those are also the parents who let their little hooligans run wild in other people's houses and stores because they excuse the little darlings willful destruction because the item shouldn't have been where the child could get it or some other hare-brained excuse. Life will always come back to bite that type.

K8 Fan said...

Mother Mary said:
"She said those are also the parents who let their little hooligans run wild in other people's houses and stores because they excuse the little darlings willful destruction because the item shouldn't have been where the child could get it or some other hare-brained excuse. Life will always come back to bite that type."

I think your grandma is RIGHT. I hadn't thought about that!!!
I know that I had said on the Duggar board that I used to BE a wife like Kate. And I know if I still was, I'd be trying to make excuses fir how she treated Jon..... Being that I have been that type of wife (but no longer am, THANK GOD) I just want to shake Kate by the shoulders and tell her to WAKE UP!!!!! She's the one that lost out when they separated, not him. I know a lot of women that would give anything for a husband like that. She blew it and she's in denial.

Anyhow, Grandma hit the nail on the head!!!! You go girl!!!! Lol.

h8k8 said...

seasidebreeze said...
I watched the episode on YouTube. Kate's behavior was typical of her - very negative and selfish. I can't help wondering, though, if she was in on it, at least a little bit. It seems she truly doesn't care how she appears to the public, as long as her name stays in the media. This episode gives her the attention she craves, as her name has been all over the place this past week. It's crazy, but she seems to love any attention she can get. I also was wondering if the producers told Sarah to go on about Kate's behavior while on camera to amp up the drama. When Sarah asked Piper if Piper wanted to see them off, it almost seemed staged how she asked it. Just my opinion. It seems like TLC definitely knew Kate was not going to do well with the camping trip and set her up...and had Sarah in on that so they could create the contrast between the two. Of course the saddest part of all of this, is that 8 kids are used as pawns in TLC's game...for ratings and money. Very sad.



You honestly believe Sarah and her family were acting and intentionally manipulating Kate and the situation? She did and said everything we saw and unfortunately she IS that way. No one needed to manipulate or stage anything or anyone. It happened.

As Ken Tucker from EW said, "Since every one of Kate’s complaints was made directly to the camera, no one can even claim that the producers of Sarah Palin’s Alaska somehow edited the footage to make Gosselin look bad."
http://watching-tv.ew.com/2010/12/12/sarah-palin-alaska-kate-gosselin/

Beachbrums said...

Oh my ! The Jimmy Kimmel clip is hilarious and very sad at the same time. I hope the children sue their mother and TLC some day!!!

Sheri said...

This is the beginning of the end, of that you can be sure.

I suspect TLC couldn't wait to air that episode of SPA...it was their chance to finally rid themselves of the PR nightmare that is the Gosselin brand.

I also am pretty darn sure that TLC knew full well that the kids got "EXPELLED" from school and why. They threw Kate under the bus when they let her go on national television at the end of November to refute it.

I've never felt sorry for Kate, but I'm starting to. The ones who built her up, fed her enormous ego, threw wads upon wads of cash at her and told her she was a "star" are now abandoning her with a sneer, "We never really liked you anyway."

I'm not saying she doesn't deserve it, she's an adult and should have known better. It's the kids that didn't and don't deserve any of it.

But still, here's a woman who in 6 years completely destroyed her marriage, her family and herself.

Whatever the reason, that deserves even a small ounce of pity. JMHO

zoey said...

i have not seen the episode, but i would be interested to hear the flip side of the story. How did Sarah explain to her kids (who i believe were "fans" of the gosselins) why they (their mother) behaved so poorly.
It must be difficult for youngsters to comprehend that the family they see on T.V are "just not that into you"
**and i know the Palin kids are on T.V and are probably used to scrutiny but, im looking beyond that and thinking of any kids feelings after meeting the Grosslins

Ccc said...

Well, it seems as if Kate was found in a lie via radaronline:

http://www.fancast.com/blogs/2010/tv-news/kates-big-lie-gosselin-kids-were-expelled-after-hurting-adult/

K8 Fan said...

I also pity her.... A little bit. I pity people who walk through life asleep and are materialistic. They will never know TRUE joy. And I feel sorry for them. For all we know she had a parent like her. If 20 years from now we see Mady or Cara acting like this we would feel pity for THEM. Hopefully someone will break the cycle.
Also, I think it was Zoey said something about how did Palin kids feel witnessing this.... I mentioned that before too. Poor little Piper was SOOOOO excited cage is a huge fan of the show and her poor little heart was probably broken. By the end she wanted nothing to do with them, she didn't even want to see them off.

K8 Fan said...

Also, if she lied about this and manipulated it into something palatable for public, I wonder what else she has manpulated. Were they separated BEFORE jon's "affair"? And she manipulated that to look like the victim? Did she pressure Jon into having the kids? What else did she manipulate to get what she wanted?!?! Hmmmmm.

Brummygirl said...

We all saw this coming months ago, Kate's slow demise with T.L.C. They did not want it to look as though they were throwing her to the kerb, she had to have enough rope to do that herself.
You can bet that T.L.C. has a clause for everything in those contracts Kate signed. She has become too larger than life and although bad publicity as well as good, brings ratings, think of the expense this clueless woman incurs.
No company can afford to lose advertisers and money, that is what it is all about.
When the previous lovefest with Kate, i.e. R.O.L., The View, shows it is cracking, that is the writing on the wall.
Finally someone has called her out publicly on her lying. O.K., it is ROL and you have to weigh that information with a grain of salt, but it is out there to put the seeds of doubt in people's minds.
How many other times has she lied they wonder. The Boob Job, the Lipo, other procedures?
What a sorry excuse for a mother Kate is, she would rather protect her so called image than help her children.
They are 6, they only learn what they see and they have seen enough in their witch of a mother to extremely influence them. The first five years of a child's life is instrumental in how they behave later.
They have seen their mother hit their father and belittle him. They have heard nothing but rage between them.
They have been made to choose between their parents, which is the hardest thing in the world for a child, they love both.
They have learned that the only affection from their mother comes when they are being filmed. They know no difference, it has been their as long as they can remember.
They have learned that she favours one child more than the other and that they are just to be tolerated when she is eventually around.
Most of all, they have experienced abandonment on many occasions and learned not to incur the wrath of Kate. They step on egg shells when she is there.
What chance do these poor children have of a normal life unless someone steps in.
I have pulled Jon over the coals for his participation in all this at the beginning, but I now say, thank goodness he is there to at least give them some quality of love.
In some twisted way, Kate may love her children, but her actions do not back that up.

Nancy in the OC said...

I really do not like this woman. Does she ever go back and watch videos of herself. I would be absolutely mortified if that were me. I cannot ever imagine not being fond of one of my kids. Each tup is uniquely different and if I were their mother, I would love each of them unconditionally for who they are. She was so disassociated with them during the camping trip. Hey, I'm not fond of camping but you could see how much fun those kids were having. It's just water and I would have been out there creating MEMORIES rather than a nightmare for my kids.

As for the two being expelled...could the writing on the wall be any bigger for dumba$$ to see how much she is damaging her children and ruining their childhoods for her own selfish gains. Shame on this woman!

so sick of her said...

In the know said: Kate flew from NYC to LA, and since nothing has been said: maybe Kate is having some surgery done, after all LA is a big plastic surgery place. And celebs go un-noticed into plastic surgery offices. More fake killjoy Kate.

Vanessa said...

Bang on Mother Mary!
Didn't she also say she wasn't responsilbe for what her kids said/did at school because she's NOT there? Seems like Ms Kreider
doesn't care how they act, destroy, hit, scream, so long as they aren't doing it around her!
And caught in yet another lie, add it to the list, they WERE EXPELLED! Will Mary Hart have her "set the record straight" yet again????

Anna O Muse said...

“Collin actually covered his face when he was having his school photograph taken because he thought he shouldn’t be photographed,” says Radar’s insider.
That is so sad, poor little guy.

Rebecca said...

I wonder/hope if now that ROL is showing that they think it's OK to call Kate out on her lies if she'll decide to quit publicly spewing them? It may be too late to worry about that though as I doubt many more shows are going to agree to her publicist's requests to have her on. :)

K8 fan said...

Oh my goodness. Lol. I googled "Kate Gosselin" and something came up (I think it was twitter or something) that said "I can't seem to get warm. Its colder than Kate gosselin's heart outside". Lolol. That's hillarious.

Jane in California said...

K8 fan said:
I also pity her.... A little bit.
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Yes, I do too ( a little). None of us here are perfect but yet we all seem to have joy in our lives, and appreciate those we love and who love us. There is nothing that makes me happier than in spending time with my child, those unexpected moments of sheer happiness: whether it be helping him with his homework and listening to him as he figures out a math problem, or him pitching to me just right so I can bat the ball, or when he says, "look mom" and then does a goofy dance for me and makes me laugh. At those moments, my heart is so full that I want to bottle that moment and have it to relive forever.

For whatever reason, Kate isn't capable of ever experiencing such a moment in her life. She will never know those flashes of bliss. While I despise her behavior, I can still feel sorry for her that when all is said and done, she's basically an empty shell of a person and will have nothing to show for her life but wasted opportunities and broken promises.

Brummygirl said...

In the Minds of the Sheeple:
It must be lovely to be able to see nothing but good in everyone, but they do not follow through.
Kate can do no wrong. The latest camping escapade did not phase them. Kate was menopausal, Kate does not like camping and it was T.L.C.'s fault she was there.
They do not like camping in the rain, so it stands to reason that Kate does not.
She had a bad P.O.C. day, because one of them has that too.
She is used to better things etc.etc.
All this love and sunshine for Kate and they blame us "haters" for having nothing better in our lives but.....they slam Jon and they are "on patrol" watching Ellen. Oh yes, they are doing their job under the guidance of the *Sheriff*.
When will these people lighten up and see the actual facts before them.
Are we haters? I do not like to be called that, I would rather be called someone who dislikes injustice to children.
They now call themselves lovers not Sheeple. In their *woolly minds* Kate Gosselin is the best thing since sliced bread. It is her they worship, the kids come second.

Can't See Sheep said...

http://www.fancast.com/blogs/2010/tv-news/kates-big-lie-gosselin-kids-were-expelled-after-hurting-adult/

OMG what on earth did the kid do? Hurting an adult twice, wow! And both abusive to other children in school. All this at age 6, that's too much. These kids needed an intervention yesterday. Frankenkreider is more frightening than any fictional monster, that's for sure, just look at what she's done to her children, if that's not scary then I don't know what is.

Jon is going to have a lot to deal with, escaping k8 was only the beginning.

Interesting that Radar is now reporting positive stories about Jon & negative ones on k8. Guess it's TLC's new image for her jackass k8.

N.E. Psychologist said...

“Does she know nothing about a child's self esteem, self-image?”

IMO she simply does not care.

“Seems like Ms Kreider doesn't care how they act, destroy, hit, scream, so long as they aren't doing it around her!”

According to various reports she allowed them to run wild in the Palins’ house while she was right there and could have stopped them. Again, I don’t think she cares.

Maybe TLC is setting her up to dump her... said...

so sick of her said...
In the know said: Kate flew from NYC to LA, and since nothing has been said: maybe Kate is having some surgery done, after all LA is a big plastic surgery place. And celebs go un-noticed into plastic surgery offices. More fake killjoy Kate.

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Could be that the LA producers are sick to death of her attitude and rotten behavior. Maybe she's out there to have her head handed to her.

I still wonder, if it is true that her contract goes until 2012, if TLC is setting her up to have a good reason to dump her before the contract is done.

There must be some clause in there that ultimately benefits the TV network.

AND, and this is an important one! - and I bet tons of money that TLC has lots of footage that would be damaging to her if it came out. That could be a very effective leverage against her if they try to sever contract and she fights it.

TLC can always say 'we decided in the best interest of the children to stop filming them' with the unspoken truth being that they have footage of her being physically abusive and having meltdowns.

Won't let TLC off the hook, but it might let them get out of the rest of the contract.

Friendly Skies said...

I wonder if her preference for BWI has anything to do with it being Steve and TLC's home base

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Probably not. I'm closer to Philly and I absolutely hate that airport. I refuse to fly in or out of it. BWI is my airport of choice. Less crowded, much easier to navigate. I really don't blame her on that one. Plus...she flies Southwest, and BWI is the hub for Southwest.

Judy said...

Nancy in the OC says: Does she ever go back and watch videos of herself. I would be absolutely mortified if that were me...
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Remember when she threw the fit,yelling at Jon, when they were Christmas shopping? Jon was embarrassed and Kate said she was oblivious to people around her when she is focused.
SHE DIDN'T GET IT!!!! It's not that she was oblivious. It's that she was rude and mean.
Now her kids are rude and mean? Wonder where they learned that!

winsomeone said...

I remember an episode from a couple of years ago, where baby sitters or someone helping Kate on some trip was trying to get the kids into the big van, and a couple of the little ones were hitting the care givers arms for their trouble. And nothing was said or done to the kids for doing that.

Pony said...

Can't see sheep said:"OMG what on earth did the kid do? Hurting an adult twice, wow! And both abusive to other children in school. All this at age 6, that's too much. These kids needed an intervention yesterday."

ITA, the kids need to be in some serious therapy for a myriad of issues. As for what the kid did to an adult - could be as simple as a kick on the shins. The adult doesn't really need to have been badly hurt for the school to feel that something needed to be done. They can't let children get away with that kind of behavior on multiple occasions; it's disruptive to the learning of the other children and sends the wrong message to them if nothing is done about it. Same thing with "abusing" other children. If they couldn't learn to stop, then the school had to protect the other kids. For all we know, they were hitting their own siblings since it's permitted at home.

I will say this: if Kate thinks that the two children will ever be re-admitted to that school, she's delusional. Schools just don't do that. The kids need to be in school, not be tutored at home. They need to learn how to socialize with other children, something their mother has kept them from doing all their lives.

E-town Neighbor said...

YooHoo? Kate honey, didn't your parents own a campground when you were growing up? Didn't you ever step out into your own backyard??

Yeesh, she acts like this camping experience is so foreign to her when it's part of her upbringing!! ... maybe she's forgotten her roots.. or just chooses to ignore the ties to her family AGAIN!!!

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It wasn't part of her upbringing. This rumor surfaces periodically. Her parents built a campground for RVs; this was nothing like camping in Alaska in the wilds. Their campground has bathhouses, electric hook-up and running water. It was not in her backyard -- it's quite a distance away. She would have absolutely no reason for going to that campground since it is for tourists to hook up their RVs when traveling. It's not about building fires, roasting marshmallows, using buckets with toilet seats, etc. etc. that she experienced in Alaska. There are no bears, and nobody fishes for their supper at the Kreider campground. There is no "roughing it" involved.

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