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196 comments:

OzNTM said...

That suspension could be quite convenient, so I'll call it - the kids will be pulled out of their school "because they couldn't help us" and sent off to a boarding school. Kate has no use for them now that the show is on it's last legs.

Grammajude said...

I feel badly for whichever child was suspended - I tend to believe that it DID happen because as other posters have pointed out, no one in the K/TLC camp have issued a statement that flatly denies it. And you know they would have done anything for damage control if it were untrue.

Because no one from the school is talking - and I commend them for protecting the students' privacy - I still wonder if perhaps another child - not a Gosselin - was also involved. Bullying takes place over a long period of time and grows worse with time - could that other child be suspended as well? I don't think this situation is as one-sided as we have been led to believe.

Who is Embarrassing Who said...

Kate doesn't need any of the kids to embarrass her, she does a great job of that herself: Can we say, DWTS just as one huge example. How about that constant shrieking. Its embarrassing to watch her! Not that I do, just happen to see some of the non-stop promos. She is just one cringeworthy, cantankerous cow, and I would hate to have to call her my mother. I feel for those kids. They have every right to tell her that SHE is embarrassing THEM!!

Hippie Chick said...

I still think both stories (the Kate asleep while trick or treating, & the tup suspended) are both just rumors to get people watching. If I were a "celebrity" & my daughter's name was dragged through the mud, you could your butt, I would have my PR people out there straightening out the mess. Why not Kate? Well, we know she likes the attention it brings.

IMO, this is all bringing potential viewers to her awful show. I implore you, don't buy into the hype. I will not watch!! You too OK? :)

Chris said...

One of the things that disturbs me about the report that one of the girls got a two week suspension from school it that we are naming names. To me, the ASSumption that it was Alexis is totally wrong. We shouldn't speculate that it was any particular child. I hate the thought that Alexis is getting labeled with the same sort of reputation that Mady has. One child in that family with a bad reputation in one too many.

you get what you get, Kate said...

All three tup girls have behaved brutishly and violently on camera. And I can't remember Kate saying boo about it once. Sure, they've been punished for touching a screen door or yelling as they are about to be punched by a sibling, but no problem with the smacking each other. No wonder they're 'embarrassing her'

pinkdiamond611 said...

I don't buy that whomever acted out did so because she was bullied. I am more prone that whomever was suspended has an "anger management" issue. They are doing exactly what is done to them at home. Blow a whistle, get someone angry, get smacked. And, taking an idea from the past thread, it all probably occurred when Kart was mia, because how could they have pics of the kids going on the school bus, if one of the kids were missing?

Lea said...

Those kids are not going to be sent off to a "boarding school". No matter what, their mother will not be able to keep them in ANY private school after next year - she won't have the funds for it, even if they all manage to stay in school in spite of disciplinary problems.

Once the show is gone, every one of those kids will become Someone Else's Problem - not their mothers. Whether they end up with their father, with relatives, or with the state, you can bet SHE won't be the one taking care of them. Not that she does now.

Marie France said...

Chris said...
One of the things that disturbs me about the report that one of the girls got a two week suspension from school it that we are naming names. To me, the ASSumption that it was Alexis is totally wrong. We shouldn't speculate that it was any particular child. I hate the thought that Alexis is getting labeled with the same sort of reputation that Mady has. One child in that family with a bad reputation in one too many.
11/06/2010 8:46 AM
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I agree with you. From what I have seen online, everyone seems to assume it is Alexis. I obviously am NOT going to post the link, but there is a youtube video out there that someone made of clips of Alexis with the caption "BAD" that keeps flashing on the screen. They have "branded" Alexis. This child is 6 years old! There has to be a law that you cannot be posting crap like this of minors on the internet. The person that did it was probably one of those idiotic teenage sheeple who thought it was "cool" It's hateful, vicious, and completely detrimental to this little girl. Another idiotic teenage sheeple from Canada posted Alexis picture on her FB page instead of her own picture. Underneath, she wrote something about Alexis being a bully. This teenage girl is 16 - I thought you had to be 18 to use FB. I flagged the picture as inappropriate.

The Chicken or The Egg? said...

pinkdiamond611 said...

I don't buy that whomever acted out did so because she was bullied. I am more prone that whomever was suspended has an "anger management" issue. They are doing exactly what is done to them at home. Blow a whistle, get someone angry, get smacked. And, taking an idea from the past thread, it all probably occurred when Kart was mia, because how could they have pics of the kids going on the school bus, if one of the kids were missing?

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I agree with you that the child in question likely has an anger problem and was mimicking the type of behavior they've witnessed and been subjected to since birth...however, I believe that was the true source of the "bullying" and, thus, the anger.

OzNTM said...

See, that's why I think it is possible for them to end up at boarding school - Kate won't want them, but she wouldn't want anyone else (Jon/family) to have them, either. This way, she still has control because she put them there. If she gave them to Jon or anyone else, that would be losing in her mind. Plus she would have to pay child support to Jon if he had them. This way, he still pays it, which then could be used for the school fees, and she doesn't pay a cent.

Sharla said...

We received information that the live radio show in an effort to be balanced will accept callers of all opinions as listed below.

Living the Dream Mom Radio
www.toginet.com/shows/livingthedreammom
1-877-864-4869 – call in #
10am – 11am ET Thursday, Dec 2nd

Marie France said...

Sharla said...
We received information that the live radio show in an effort to be balanced will accept callers of all opinions as listed below.
Living the Dream Mom Radio
www.toginet.com/shows/livingthedreammom
1-877-864-4869 – call in #
10am – 11am ET Thursday, Dec 2nd
11/06/2010 4:01 PM
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Sharla,
This is pretty shocking, don't you think? I am not familiar with these idiots other than what I read here and there. This is the same show that BM was on, right? I wonder what their motive is - I have always been under the impression that these are hardcore, delusional, die hard sheeple, like the real whack jobs who post over on Clairissa and Charlene Kreider's FB page. They are scary!!!

Kitty The Dog's Blog said...

You get what you get, I agree with you that Kate has not "said boo" about the fighting. I went back to her "blog" as there was one wherein she came right out and said there are numerous fights everyday and she does not get involved. She tells them to handle it themselves. The blog was posted on 5/13 - "The Complaint Department is Closed". On camera she is an authoritarian type parent but in this blog she is permissive/neglectful. It didn't make sense to me at the time, maybe that is why I remembered it. But you are right, she doesn't care that they fight with each other, yet now she is "embarrassed" by it. What a witch.

Berks Has Shoes! said...

See, that's why I think it is possible for them to end up at boarding school - Kate won't want them, but she wouldn't want anyone else (Jon/family) to have them, either.

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Well, there's always The Hill School if she wants prestige. It's close enough for weekend visits, but far enough away that she won't have to be bothered with them. She'll have to wait a few years, though, until the kids are in 9th grade. Annual tuition is currently $45,500. I'm sure she'll be able to swing that for all eight of them.

Kate's Bargain Basement said...

'I Just Want You To Know'... Letters to my Mini ATMs, is now going for $2.74 on Amazon. That's some book this year, Kate (Zondervan must be so proud).

I certainly hope these recent past failures, are an indication of how her show does in the ratings this month.

Sharla said...

The other mods and I are not advocating that anyone call in. The woman who runs that show emailed us twice saying they'd like to be balanced and hear from both sides. We are merely passing along the information for each person to make his or her own decision. I won't be listening or calling. :)

Jane in CA said...

Any further news on Twist of Kate? Here we are, Nov. 6th -- wasn't this show supposed to be on the November schedule? Or is that November 2011?? LOL.

Come on TLC, I dare ya to put out any footage you shot for this show. It must stink to high heaven if the TLC vultures are embarrassed to have it on their network.

Never On Sunday said...

Any further news on Twist of Kate? Here we are, Nov. 6th -- wasn't this show supposed to be on the November schedule? Or is that November 2011?? LOL.

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Update on 9/30 was that it is "still in development" with November premiere unlikely, but December premiere not out of the realm of possibility.

Wouldn't you think that if it's in development, she would be off filming somewhere?

Momof2 said...

Well, it just goes to show that they don't have enough Kate lovers calling in (because there aren't many), so now they welcome "the haters" to fill the time slot.

C said...

What has happened to the chickens and their coop? Are they still viable? Who is taking care of them?

Backyard chickens can be fun, but do require care and attention.

Thanks for any updates!

Tina Marie:) said...

http://www.usmagazine.com/momsbabies/news/kate-gosselin-slept-while-kids-went-trick-or-treating-2010511


Here we go again!!!

No Worry, Beef Curry said...

The radio show is a major snooze fest, and just plain awkward. Kind of like BM's blog-- it just makes you feel dirty. Lots of "Um, you know(s)" and loud squealing (sound familiar?) They have the same Sheeple calling in, etc. I decided that I will NOT be dialing in, after the disturbing things they said on the most recent ('um) show.

So Marie France is correct... Although, I am not trying to discourage anyone from calling.

Tami said...

I don't read the lying blog, but is Kate still blogging about the kids? I thought there was a gag order preventing Jon from talking about the kids in public (or so it was claimed by her lawyer when he talked about them on Twitter). Wouldn't it apply to her also? It's hard to believe there would be something preventing one parent from talking but not the other. It should also apply to Kate+8. She should not be able to mention them, discuss their private lives, etc!

Sobby McFibberpants said...

Sobberella McKlompypants is embarrassed of the behavior of her children? Well, imagine that. It must be hard to face the reality that "when you plant corn, you get corn".
I too am a mother in Pa, and I have been embarrassed for years by her being packaged as the representative of every woman who has ever been called 'mom'.

Her new Klassy Kate makeover should embarrass her more than anything these kids could ever do. IMO, she's undeniably the most annoying woman that has ever been, and deserves everything she gets once those fast approaching teenage years bring her to her knees. Good Luck with that.

Susan said...

According to Fox Philly, this is the shows last gasp:

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/entertainment/110710-kate-gosselin-last-hoorah-tonight

Not only in the title hilarious, but the whole article is implying that the show is basically O-V-E-R!

Little Bird said...

Oh no! Things are going from bad to worse, in Kate's world.

Psst... 'Small Town Gosselins' has an interview up this weekend, with Werny Gal and actor, Eric Roberts. Apparently, he has been Tweeting, and believes Kate Gosselin is abusing her children. A great read.

(BTW- His daughter is actress Emma Roberts... sister is Julia.)

Almost Free! said...

"Letters"... Not a Best Seller and no countrywide book tour for Kate.

Her latest book, is now at 0.1 cent on Amazon.com

C said...

I wonder if Kate is wedded to her super-high heels so she can continue to loom over the kids? Partly as a power-play, but also to make the kids look even younger.

Just a thought.

Bubbles said...

I sincerely hope the Alaska show was the last Kate +8 show we'll ever see.

Proud Grandma said...

http://blogs.mcall.com/tvwatchers/2010/11/kate-plus-8-nature-whining.html#tp Not sure if anyone has posted this, but seems like some people have her number, and it ain't #1

Jane in California said...

Almost Free said:

Her latest book, is now at 0.1 cent on Amazon.com
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bwaaahaaaahaaaahaaaa!!!!!!!

How is that book deal working out for you Zondervan? Aren't you happy you sold out your supposed principles to sign a deal with this woman? And in the process, lost me forever as a customer?

Jane in California said...

Many thanks for the link to the Philly Fox article. Two paragraphs jumped out at me:

"On Saturday night, TLC ran constant promotions for "Kate Plus 8" during its "Strange Sex" marathon, which featured a man with a balloon fetish and a granny who dated 30-year-olds interspersed with "Kate Plus 8" ads."

This makes my skin crawl. So the powers that be at TLC think people who are watching Strange Sex are a prime audience base for Kate Plus 8? To be charitable, I'm gonna just consider them very misguided.

"Some paparazzi remain out in Wernersville, where they have photographed . . . Kate Gosselin apparently sleeping in a car while bodyguard Steve Neild took them trick or treating on Halloween."

If she was photographed "sleeping," I lay odds 10 to 1 she was "sleepy" from booze or other some such.

Jane in California said...

From WernyGirl's Q&A session with Eric Roberts, I learned something I didn't know before:

"TLC states that it has earned $200 million in the past five years from Gosselin-related shows. TV Guide reports that Kate Gosselin is paid $250,000 per episode. The eight children split 15% of that income, so each child gets 1.875% while the mother gets 85%."

Now, I'm presuming Wernygirl has her facts straight. If so, this seems quite shockingly wrong to me. Seriously, Federal laws must be put in place to stop the exploitation of children by unscrupulous and greedy parents! 8 young children are left to split 15% of the income they generate, while one lazy, greedy, abusive mom gets 85% ??? So much wrong with that.

Jane from PA said...

People magazine is reporting that Nancy O'Dell has been chosen to replace Mary Hart on Entertainment Tonight when she leaves in 2011. What?...They didn't pick Katie Irene? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Little Bird said...

The Eric Roberts story is out there everywhere now.

(And I'm glad I went on every news and gossip site possible, to spread the story yesterday... whoopsie! Including ROL.)

Momof2 said...

I laughed so hard when I read on Baby Mamas site that she said that Julia Roberts is so embarrassed about what Eric said that she is hiding out in her house........ummmmmm...I doubt it.

Monster Mommy said...

For Momof2...

WRONG AGAIN, Baby Mama. Julia Roberts lives out here in L.A. (as well as in Taos part-time). She has been at WAR with the local Paparazzi for years, concerning the filming and exploitation of her own three minor children. She is sort of the 'poster child' for telling off the Paps. Specifically when they tailed her to her childs' school, attempting to get photos. She has even been known to approach these cameramen, and rip them a verbal new one.

(*Sigh* - Why must you be so stinking unreasonable BM?)

C said...

I came into the J&K+8 phenomenon very late--I think my first episode was when they got the puppies--and my disgust with Kate lead me to find this board. Thank y'all for bringing me up to speed.

Part of my "education" has been watching watershed episodes; last evening, I watched the Crayola factory fiasco. Good grief, that woman knows how to suck all of the joy out of what should have been a fun outing. No wonder people looked over at her brood with a pity; they no doubt felt sorry for the children who couldn't really enjoy the activities because their mother went on and on and on about them staining their clothes.

I kept wondering why Kate didn't pull her head out of her butt and buy art smocks for her children--or at least big shirts that they could use as smocks. That way, everyone would be happy; the kids could do something wild, like use markers, and Kate wouldn't have to worry about the laundry that she probably didn't do even at that time.

Yeesh, the way she went on you'd think they were threatening to roll around in mud puddles while wearing hand-sewn-by-Grandma, silk velvet Little Lord Fauntleroy costumes.

Jane in California said...

Apparently now, BabyMama is so crazy she thinks she knows Julia Roberts and how she is supposedly "reacting" to her brother's comments about Kate Gosselin. The crazy, it runs deep.

Jane in California said...

I heard on the radio this morning a little bit of discussion that another season of Celebrity Apprentice is being filmed. They mentioned that two of the celebs are Star Jones and LaToya Jackson. No mention re Kate Gosselin.

Proud Grandma said...

I just managed to watch a clip on line of panning for gold. The ring thing was tasteless, especially when she put it on.
Little Eli was gorgeous, he had better speech at 2 and a half than some of the tups. She showed more affection for that little guy than she did for her own kids. And OMG the screaching and yelling at the kids to stay out of the mud, "OMG what have I got into" for goodness sakes woman, it is called MUD, yummy mud puddles, get over it.

K8STFU said...

Part of my "education" has been watching watershed episodes

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C, although the newer episodes sound really bad ( I haven't watched in almost 2 years ), the early episodes that you are now just watching are the ones that really got these blogs going :

These are some of the most infamous :

1) "Bunkbeds and Babies" aka Colingate

2) "Cooking with the Twins" aka Joelgate

3) " Sextuples Turn 4" aka Cupcakegate

4) "Going South " aka Disneygate

Hope I got the names of the episodes correct. Also, there is the infamous "Gumgate" episode but I cannot remember the actual name of the episode.

For me, Joelgate was the one that really got me thinking something wasn't right......

Crusty said...

BM deserved to be outed as Kart's BIGGEST fan. She's a liar who alters facts.

Jane in California said...

K8STFU said:
For me, Joelgate was the one that really got me thinking something wasn't right......
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Me too, and it's still the one that springs to mind first when I think of some of the most horrible things that Kate did to the kids on camera. The second one that always tugs at my heart is Gumgate, involving sweet Colin.

Those two moments exposed the deep ugliness that is Kate Gosselin. After that, I knew she wasn't right in the head.

Moms get tired and frazzled, moms sometimes lose their tempers and yell at the kids, but a loving, normal person would never place a sick child on a cold dark laundry room floor and leave him alone; nor would she scream with rage at a little boy who got a scrap of gum on his beloved lovie and tell him it was going to be thrown away. No, she's not right in the head whatsoever.

Living it up in Alaska said...

I think Gumgate was the episode where Mady got her ears pieced for her special day. I could be wrong theugh. I still get pretty upset over those episodes. Such an injustice for those kids. And, it is lives on because of tv.

dustilies said...

C said (about Crayola Factory Fiasco)

I kept wondering why Kate didn't pull her head out of her butt and buy art smocks for her children--or at least big shirts that they could use as smocks.

Yeesh, the way she went on you'd think they were threatening to roll around in mud puddles while wearing hand-sewn-by-Grandma, silk velvet Little Lord Fauntleroy costumes.

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Welcome, C. You are yet one more person on this blog who can make me laugh!

K is stunningly unable to think ahead or learn from past mistakes. No new parent gets an accurate owner's manual with the arrival of a child. But most of us develop a sort of playbook over the years, about what might go wrong in many situations (from motion sickness to math homework induced meltdowns) and how to prevent it or minimize the damage.

I don't think it is just a matter of TLC enjoying the high drama of a kid spilling ice cream on a matchy-matchy shirt (boy, do I feel silly writing that). I think KG is so deeply narcissistic that she can't think analytically about the future, the past, or anyone else's needs beside her own in the present.

Exhausted said...

When we talk about the potential Crayola mess it could make or the spilled ice cream drama (or even the pumpkin carving mess), I often wonder if that was all just a way for Kate to do three things:
1. Kill any kind of unrestrained fun the kids were having.
2. Bring the attention back to herself.
and 3. Craft this reality TV persona of OCD neat freak that doesn't really exist.

Kids get dirty so often that even with just the twins, I can't imagine she wasn't used to it. To really think you could prevent a whole herd of kids from getting a spot on them is just silly. I don't think even someone as delusional as she is would think it would be a possiblity. I really just think she enjoyed shutting down the fun, putting the focus back on her, and creating a super-clean super-mom (gag).

Exhausted said...

Another thought. We took our two children to Sesame Place a few weeks back, and as we were waiting in a long line to get one picture with Cookie Monster and then going to the one restaurant where we could hardly find an available table (all the time laughing and having fun), I thought of all the gifts that were wasted on Jon and Kate. There they were in places like that being given the VIP treatment and not even appreciating anyone's efforts. Such a tragic cautionary tale of greed and malcontentment.

There was just an ugliness about the whole thing right from the beginning. Splitting all the kids up while they went away that time felt weird (I would think that would be traumatic) as well as the way Kate would feel entitled to all that free time when Jodi would have the kids for the day. We never once saw her offer Jodi the same (if she did, she would have made them capture it on camera). The bottom line is, we thought Jon and Kate were overwhelmed and struggling, but then we started to see that they had more free time, more pampering, more nights out, and more helpers to do chores than anyone I know who had only one or two kids. On top of that, we never heard a thank you or an ounce of appreciation. Just gross!

K8STFU said...

Jane in CA, agreed. Great comments as usual.

Living it up in AK : yes, I think you are correct, it was "Mady's Special Day", glad someone has a good memory !

Exhausted : K8's all about control but she's also all about keeping her money makers spotless so she can garner top $$ for their clothing when she drops them off for consignment. She always bitched about the laundry but readily admitted to having a ton of help with laundring, folding and putting away said laundry mounds(IIRC Nana Janet and Carla?). Your comment about greed and malcontentment is spot on.

Those old epis fire me up with anger and also make me so sad that the kids' lives are so much worse now.

C said...

Thanks for all of the kind comments and recommendations, everyone.

I just watched Cooking with the Twins. You know, my mom hated laundry with a passion, and she could be awfully hard about a lot of things, but I was never forced to curl my sick, fevered body onto the linoleum floor because Mommy Dearest couldn't face another load of laundry.

I was also irritated by how she handled the failed cake. Look, I'm not a baker either; if my cake turns out well, it's thanks to Betty Crocker, not my skills. However, this was the twin's project, and she should have been more supportive of their effort.

This was also the episode where Kate actually told Jon that he was breathing too loudly! WTF? If he really was breathing loudly, it probably was because he was a bit ill too. Show some compassion, woman!

Exhausted said...

The worst part is when you remember how horrible she was in the old episodes but then you realize that she was even nicer and more down to earth back then! Scary scary. These days, she's more delusional than ever, and she doesn't even pretend to mother them.

Gessica said...

So I just read that Collin was also just suspended or expelled from school for fighting (Alexis was the first one to be suspended). Parents should lead by example and it seems Kate's combative and aggressive personality is rubbing off on these kids...unfortunately.

http://www.hollybaby.com/2010/11/10/kate-gosselin-sextuplets-expelled-alexis-collin-homeschooled-fighting/

Anne said...

http://www.hollybaby.com/2010/11/10/kate-gosselin-sextuplets-expelled-alexis-collin-homeschooled-fighting/

If this is true, how sad. I've volunteered every Friday for the past seven years in the Kindergarten class at our school and never seen kids this young expelled except for one. Something is seriously wrong at home to cause this behavior and the solution at the moment is give them more time at home with Kate homeschooling them. Wrong solution. They need professional help and I hope Jon and Kate are arranging it.

MabelD said...

Two Of Kate Gosselin’s Kids — Alexis & Collin — Expelled From School For Fighting!

Kate Gosselin’s kids are acting out at school and suffering major consequences. In Touch reports that two of her eight children aren’t allowed to go back to their Pennsylvania private school.

This is very sad, but not terribly surprising. Last week we reported that one of Kate and Jon Gosselin’s sextuplets had been suspended from school for fighting. Now In Touch magazine is reporting that all of the Gosselin kids (twins Cara and Mady, 10, and 6-year-old sextuplets Hannah, Aaden, Leah, Joel, Collin and Alexis) are starting to have serious behavioral problems. The magazine reports that two of the 6-year-old sextuplets Collin and Alexis have been expelled from their private school in Pennsylvania and are now being homeschooled!

“They’ve fought with their peers, called them nasty names and made fun of other kids,” a source close to the family tells the In Touch. It seems that some of the kids have started using rather colorful language, much to the surprise of their father, Jon. “The things they are saying are not words they should know. They are learning them somewhere — but Jon doesn’t know where.”

more…
http://www.hollybaby.com/2010/11/10/kate-gosselin-sextuplets-expelled-alexis-collin-homeschooled-fighting/

Geri said...

According to Holly Baby it's being reported by "In Touch" that two of the tups have been expelled from school.

http://www.hollybaby.com/2010/11/10/kate-gosselin-sextuplets-expelled-alexis-collin-homeschooled-fighting/

Jane in California said...

I am so saddened that two of the 6-year olds have been expelled from school -- that their behavior was so out-of-control, over the top and unacceptable (at age 6!), that they were kicked out of their private school. You know private schools do not give up that tuition lightly.

Even worse, now they are being homeschooled?? I urge those in authority in PA over homeschooling to monitor that situation very carefully. I know in my heart that Kate is doing ZERO homeschooling, and my understanding is that it must be a parent who is doing the schooling, not a nanny or a "booby guard". It's more like those children are on house arrest.

To think gentle Collin has been so twisted by his exposure to his own mom that he's bullying others, calling them foul names, and fighting, tells you how dreadful a mom Kate is indeed.

I also notice that one of the people who used to post here quite often and assure us that no bullying went on at their private school has gone silent. Now I wonder if they ever really knew the info they claimed to know at all.

txmom said...

The family's normal is complete dysfunction. I only see is getting worse from here.
There needs to be some sort of intervention done, and QUICK. If those kids were truly expelled from school, Jon needs to get those kids away from her asap. Let her keep all the stuff....it's just stuff. Jon, get those kids away from her. She is toxic.

Psycho Kate - help your kids! said...

What child gets expelled at SIX years old? I've heard of junior high and highschoolers getting expelled for drugs, theft or violence but at SIX?

Where has the innocence gone? These kids should be in therapy.

No one knows really what the parents are doing to alleviate the situation but if I see Psycho Kate getting her nails done or headed to target or a nail salon, we'll know where her priorities are.

This is messed up and I feel helpless in just "blogging" about it.

C said...

Ho-boy. The last thing those kids need is home schooling; I hope that Jon and Kate get those kids some therapy and back in public or private school. Don't get me wrong--home schooling is a fine choice for many families, but these kids desperately need to get away from the studio they call a home and the shrieking banshee they call a mother. Kate was so worried about "culturing" the kids that she didn't bother much with socializing them, and we see the results.

Can't See Sheep said...

Well, if they're being home-schooled hopefully it's a nanny & not kate doing it. kate does not have the patience to walk a dog never mind home-school children.

It says the kids are having rage issues, not all that suprising given what their life has been like. Just having a mother like kate alone could frustrate a kid to no end, but to have to behave like a trained monkey for cameras on cue, especially when you don't feel like it or you're too tired, it's easy to see how the anger could build. Things like being told it's Christmas & then it isn't, having to wear sweaters in the August heat, losing YOU'RE CHRISTMAS GIFTS because your dingbat mother can't cope with dogs, dirt, daily life or much of anything, the list goes on & on. Then there's the divorce on top of that & being stuck with the frustrating, over-bearing, unpredictable narcissistic parent most of the time. It just keeps piling on for these kids. Yep, I feel angry just thinking about it, so I can only imagine how they feel living it.

Gee are TLC & kate going to hope that people will tune in to see the kids home-schooled? Or will the next thing these children have to deal with is step daddy Steve a la the flash in the gold pan. Can these people be any sleazier at the expense of these children, unfortunately I believe they can & may try to go much further. I can see kate's second fairytale wedding already & it makes me want to vomit. Yet another crossover to Say Yes to the Dress, run Randy, run!

If Jon is reading, get your kids some help during your custody time!

Truth Seeker said...

I believe the reason people have become so angy with Baby Mama is that she asks questions and posts "facts" that are untrue. When someone attempts to call her on it, she deletes their post or answers it with more lies.

I know it was horriblt embarrassing for her to have photographs of herself published, and her personal information passed around for all. However, it pointed out even more lies. She lives in a rented duplex, not in the city. She couldn't possibly be wearing the same clothes as Kate, which she claims, because they don't make those dresses in XXXL.
If she would be more honest she would not find herself being the butt of so many jokes. She's not hated because she's a Kate fan. She's hated because she's a liar.

txmom said...

Gee.hmm..let me see....I think they always say.."it's the mother's fault?"....How is BM going to spin the latest about the kids getting kicked out of school?

I just can't imagine anyone being so STUPID as to think that KI is a good mother. Those kids need to be removed from her custody TODAY. What else has to happen before Jon makes his move?

I wish one Kate fan would explain to me why watching someone else's kid's private moments should be for their viewing pleasure. These 'fans' are sick. They need to quit their gosselin worship and take care of their own families. Good grief!
I guess I should give a disclaimer...I think most of her followers are teenage girls. The rest are just stupid.

MaryB said...

Things really have hit bottom for those poor kids. We all saw it coming from the beginning.
Things are terribly wrong at home for kindergartners to get expelled.
I wonder if they are learning the bad words from Purse Boy?

bonehead said...

If it is true about the tups being homeschooled, I hope it's not with Kate. But then I don't think Kate would waste her time teaching them(this is probably why some of them were behind and she got no help for them). Geez, the woman makes up words. And if the 2 are being homeschooled, I read at another site that Kate was seen this past monday at Target, with no paps around(someone who lives there reported). So I doubt Kate would have the patience or her time to teach them. And I'm sure whatever took place in court about custody, was not much in Jon's favor, I think he has very little to say what goes on with all 8 kids. Poor kids they are getting screwed out of life and childhood.

cheryl said...

Unbelievable!!! What a way to start the new school year. No doubt the school's professional team worked long and hard for the past two months to assimilate these kids into the school environment.
Six year old kindergartners expelled - its unconscionable.
Where are the lawyers, judges - get these professional statements for your proof of pure neglect.

MabelD said...

And to think that just a few weeks ago Kate was celebrating that all her kids were in school all day at last. Well, on the bright side, she no longer has to pack as many lunches at 5 a.m.

Just what did she think her life would be like when she decided to have 8 kids?

Maybe they learned the curse words from the college-age nannies who raised them.

C said...

I don't think we have to worry much about either parent teaching the children. I'm pretty sure that Jon is self-aware enough to know that he isn't "teacher-ish," and Kate of course is too busy and exhausted, what with all showy trips to Target, running 100 miles a day, and critical nail and extension maintenance.

My concern is getting the children psychological help and a well-chosen tutor, who will hopefully not be the Gosselin's permanent answer to education. I don't think Kate is open to getting (paying for) mental health assistance for the kids; who knows what little secrets might pop out of their mouths? I'm also concerned that Kate will engage in the bad economy of choosing tutors that are lower-priced, but not a good fit for the educational needs of these particular children.

Leigh Ann said...

What child gets expelled at SIX years old? I've heard of junior high and highschoolers getting expelled for drugs, theft or violence but at SIX?
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That was my first thought, too. But these kids are in private school and a private school doesn't have the same obligation to provide an education that a public school does. They'd rather keep students and their money, but if a student is more trouble than he or she is worth, they may be more likely to show him (or her) the door. And who knows how long this has been going on and what's been done in the way of fixing it. They could have gotten several warnings and opportunities to straighten up. I'm sure the school would rather lose the bullies than the victims as students/paying customers. If this is all true, I sure hate it for the kids, though.

MabelD said...

Maybe she'll enroll the kids in a school for professional children. That way she can pull them out for filming,

laura linger said...

Those poor, poor little lost souls.

Widouwed Young said...

Homeschooling is not something to take lightly-it is not just doing a few worksheets for an hour with your child. Kindergarten would be easy but elementary age and up is a full time committment.

I have two experiences with family members that homeschooled their kids. One was fully committed-up in the morning and spent the day doing schoolwork with 3 kids 2 years apart-this includes all subjects from art to math to science. Each child learned differently and their mother adjusted her teaching style as needed. They entered public school in 7th grade and are all in college now. My sister-in-law is now teaching at a homeschool coop.

The second was another sister-in-law on the other side of the family. The kids were always doing housework and chores, never made it a priority to get up in the morning just for schooling and made excuses for everything. I would visit in the evening and the kids would just be "finishing" their math. (Most educators know the importance of doing harder subjects first thing in the morning when the kids are fresh). My niece started attending the small private school my kids go to in the 3rd grade and had to be held back because she couldn't read. I don't mean to judge because I love them dearly but none of the kids have pursued college and have jobs that just get a young adult by while living at home.

Homeschooling is a full time job and takes a major committment from the parents. I guess Kate has the money to pay a teacher but it is not something to take lightly-your child's education depends it!

Such a Shame said...

Since these kids have never known anything except being celebrities, I bet they never expected any consequences from acting out at school.

What a rough way to start learning they will have to take responsibility for their actions in life.

You're a lousy mother, Kate.

pinkdiamond611 said...

Being a public school teacher, I want to interject that being expelled from a "private" school is not the same as being expelled from "public" school. Private schools, and charter schools, for that matter, weed out the "undesireables", that prevent the school from being "perfect". In other words, the behavior might not get them expelled from public school.

Kateisgross said...

This is just gross if it is true. Why don't the children throw the uneaten food away?

http://www.hollybaby.com/2010/11/10/kate-gosselin-kids-stale-food-school-expelled/

Jane in California said...

How can that family law judge that gave Kate full custody sit by while some of the children are being expelled at age 6 for rage issues, bullying, hitting and name calling? That is one messed up judge and I wish that he or she would get more local publicity for this travesty. Maybe that would light a fire under the Court to investigate this case more thoroughly and appoint guardian ad litems for the children to at least make some cursory attempt at putting those childrens' best interests first.

That judge should lose his or her position!

Mary said...

Hi

I lots of photo's one of the girls I think Hanna is always being carried. Why does a six year old need to be carried

C said...

Regarding the alleged repacked lunches:

I'm not sure if I believe it or not. On one hand, it is SUCH an over-the-top Mommy Dearest move that it has to be made up. On the other hand, Kate went on national TV and pretty much declared that if her kids eat their veggies before their sandwiches they are disobedient and are eating their lunches wrong. With that crazy woman, who knows what's fact and what's made up?

It's possible that some of the kids tried to throw away the unwanted food, but were prevented from doing so by lunch room monitors. Or the monitors reported the attempt to Kate, who in turn ripped the kid(s) a new one.

I know from experience that schools can become very involved when children don't eat. Back in the days of yore, when I was in third grade, I forgot my lunch one day. I didn't have any money on me, but was encouraged--repeatedly, to the point of nagging--to get a slip from the secretary that would allow me to borrow the money so I could buy lunch. I refused for two reasons; one, the food was gross, and I wouldn't have eaten it anyway, and two, at 8 years old, a whole dollar seemed like a huge amount of money to borrow, and I didn't think my parents would like me to take on that kind of debt. They called my mother about it; I think they were feeling out if there was a food or money shortage at home, and if I needed to be on the free lunch program.

Living it up in Alaska said...

With all due respect pinkdiamonds, I agree with LeighAnn. I have been both a public and private school teacher. I know at the private school where I taught, teachers play a delicate balance of public relations. In other words, you can't lose to many kids or other parents start to question what is happening in the classroom. Whenever we lost a student or a family, that meant we lost income and when the economy gets tight, some parents with kids on waiting lists aren't ready to rush and fork out the money at semester to take a spot. It depends I guess, it could be the best place in the world with dozens lined up to be in the classroom. I know in public school, we worked a lot less with the family trying to help the kids with their struggles. Again, I think it depends, a small public school with a compassionate principal may work hard with the staff to help kids and if you in that situation...stay! Not many schools are like that anymore. I think in some ways arguing about it is a moot point because we can't know what really happened and how it was dealt with. IMO, I think they probably did work with the kids but at the end of the day, they wanted the Gosselin circus out of there. Can you imagine having to deal with Kate on a daily basis?

I totally believe the story about her repacking uneaten food. The kids are probably afraid to throw it away because they know what kind of hell they would pay for it but to immature in their thinking to realize she probably wouldn't know. They still have some innocence about them...I hope. She is such a control freak about food, which to me is not really about food but a way to control an out of control situation. Reminds me of the scene in Mommy Dearest when Joan Crawford kept Christina's plate for not eating it and that was all she was allowed for day or two...disgusting and unbelievably cruel but again, this is the parent that would not let them have their cupcake on their birthday! Captured on film...for the whole world to see...forever. So sad.

Dee said...

Jane in California said

That is one messed up judge and I wish that he or she would get more local publicity for this travesty. Maybe that would light a fire under the Court to investigate this case more thoroughly and appoint guardian ad litems for the children to at least make some cursory attempt at putting those childrens' best interests first.

++++++++++++++

It's not that simple. Social services are overwhelmed with neglect and abuse cases where the parents are just plain absent, or homeless, or drugged-out and so on.

These children have two parents, and, until these expulsions, nothing to offer the judge except "she's a bad parent" "he's a bad parent".

Jon himself may have felt that the children were better off with Kate, especially since she kept the house. (And he may be revisiting that idea now.)

In the absence of reportable abuse offenses, what is a judge supposed to do? And who is going to report this abusive mother? The employees who have signed non-disclosure agreements? The film crew who've done the same, and whose livelihood depends on filming whatever they're told to film?

Their mother has effectively isolated them from anyone who might report what goes on in that home, and left them - and the judge - with no where to go.

Until now. The expulsions may now allow the judge to mandate psychological evaluations of the children in order to determine the best placement for them - especially if one parent pushes for this.

The expulsions have move this out of the issue of whether or not screaming at your children and hitting them is good or bad child-rearing and into the area of "something rotten in Denmark".

Bottom line, though, is that this isn't the judge's doing. It's the fault of incredibly irresponsible, delinquent, selfish parents. Poor kids.

Button Button said...

The situation with those little kids is just tragic. I feel so bad for all of them. If Collin and Alexis were truly expelled, it seems like that would come only after many, many warnings. Who expells kids that young!

Collin has been shown hiding his little face from the camera several times, and Alexis has been portrayed as not taking a lot of guff without defending herself.

I wonder if they weren't reacting to being teased and made fun of many times. Kids do that, we know. Kids can be unbelieveably cruel without really realizing how they are affecting others.

Most children would defend themselves against others being mean to them and making fun of them. Heaven knows there is plenty of ammunition other kids could use against them ... such as potty training, vomiting on themselves, a shrieking mother, etc. etc. etc.

If it is not true, a terrible rumor like this will cause so much more sadness for these little kids to have to defend themselves against.

Button Button said...

Kateisgross said...
This is just gross if it is true. Why don't the children throw the uneaten food away?

http://www.hollybaby.com/2010/11/10/kate-gosselin-kids-stale-food-school-expelled/

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IF this is true, she has probably scared them so bad that they are afraid to throw the food away and then pretend that they ate it.

She has probably threatened them with "servereness" if they don't eat it, and worse if they throw it away.

Merrilee said...

Is there a reader here that can say whether or not all 8 kids get on the school bus?

Kate Don't Rate said...

pinkdiamond611 said...

Being a public school teacher, I want to interject that being expelled from a "private" school is not the same as being expelled from "public" school. Private schools, and charter schools, for that matter, weed out the "undesireables", that prevent the school from being "perfect". In other words, the behavior might not get them expelled from public school.

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It's being reported (P. Hilton & elsewhere) that Alexis and Collin were assigned monitors to be by their sides, and even THIS intervention did not improve the childrens' behavior.

In the district where I teach, monitors are paid adults who receive training in dealing with behavior problems.

For a six-year-old child to be unaffected by the constant presence of an adult, in close proximity, is truly troubling.

This is what Kate gets for being a selfish lazy-ass and letting her precious children duke-it-out themselves for six years.

Katie Dearest said...

I remember Jon Tweeted a couple months ago about his kids behavioral problems in school and that he was working to get them off tv. During this time... Katie Dearest..

1) rehearsed for the emmy show

2) walked the red carpet

3) flew to Cabo for a few days to shoot the airbrushed People cover.

4) Went on Regis & Kelly to speak ill of the kid's father.

5) has been seen on numerous occasions at the tanning salon, nail salon, Target (picking up 1 bag)

And what even sickens me more is that they continue to film (in the maze/costume store).

....and we wonder why the kids are having issues? wait til they're 11,12 and the true rebellion emerges.

barnaby said...

These apparent problems brings to mind a poster a few months back.

She was a mom who stated she had considered enrolling her child in the same class that contains the 6 younger children. She chose not to do so.

I'm sure she's really happy with her decision. I just can't imagine how disruptive this behavior was to the entire class.

faline said...

Wow. If this happened to my kids who were staying with my ex husband I would waste no time taking her back to court. All this should be used in court that she is an unfit mother who is doing her children harm. First its TLC and exploiting the kids issue.If I were Jon that's what I'd do. I wouldn't hesitate to bring up all the other issues, like making the kids eat the same disgusting lunch 4 days in a row, her need to run around trying out for DWTS when her children are obviously having a hard time adjusting to things and need a competent MOM to be there for them. She can't be bothered to mother those kids? Fine
then I would go for complete custody for Jon and have him try for the house, too. Let her be free
to aspire to be a porn star, which is perfect for her.

CAStudioGirl said...

Hopefully not sound contrary, but the expulsion (or suspension) of two of the Gosselins tups really doesn't warrant the description of "tragedy". A tragedy is an injured Haitian infant taken from the arms of her dead mother who was killed in the collapse of their home in an earthquake, or the firebombing of a bus of female Muslim school children for the egregious crime of seeking an education.

The situation with the G8 is regrettable, maybe repugnant certainly totally unnecessary and avoidable, but unlike the aforementioned tragedies - it is entirely repairable. A single act of privacy regarding anything in their lives could/would begin the healing. How is it possible that none of the gossip sites recognize the bizarre truth that on the same page they report the 'story' of the school's disciplinary action they also report a story of whether or not 6 year olds eat their LUNCH !! For pete's sake .... can they look themselves in the eye and actually try to justify this as journalism in any shape or form ?? Why is anyone whose last name isn't Gosselin talking about what they did or did not eat for lunch ! It is truly madness.

As for the comments here regarding the difference between public, private or charter schools, I cannot say how it works in the case of the school the G8 attend, but here in Los Angeles at the private schools that the *true* A list celebrities send their kids to, the rules are substantial, specific and inviolate, these parents are spending upwards of 20 grand a year just for kindergarten and they're shelling that out because they expect that their children will be secure, nurtured and educated at the highest level. The "rules" are often manuals that make the convenants, conditions and restrictions for gated communities look mild. The G8 might benefit from some developmental psychology expertise, but the would certainly benefit from a couple years of obscurity.

Miranda said...

This is a terrible thought, but I suspect there's some truth in it:

I wonder if the reason the kids didn't throw their uneaten lunches away might be because they were afraid that their siblings would tell Kate and the punishment would be even worse than merely not eating it.

It's a sad thing, but sometimes siblings in abusive situations will sabotage each other in order to protect themselves. Older children may be more protective of each other, but small children have no power whatsoever and have to survive any way they can.

2badsosad said...

Interesting the news of the 'troubled' Gosselin children comes after the recent firing of one of the Gosselin nannies. I wonder who is 'leaking' this information to the tabloid/entertainment media? Additionally, if this 'close source' was aware of said 'problems' why are they reporting it to the media as opposed to utilizing the information where it would serve the best interests of the CHILDREN ie family court.

pinkdiamond611 said...

If one goes to the website of the school the G.'s attend, it states that not all students are admitted if the child does not have the skills necessary to succeed. This private school does not accept children who do not fit into their "norm". The children were told to go "elsewhere", which usually means a public school. I have no idea why the children were told to leave the school. But obviously, they were not meeting the standards of the school. Public schools, by law, are not allowed to turn any student away, for any reason. In public school, if a child is in the need of counseling, and a parent refuses, the child still comes to school each day. Under extraordinary circumstances the school can file a lawsuit to force the parent to sign consent, but this is very rare.

Anonymous said...

A normal kid discards his lunch if he doesn't want to eat it. Only a genuine dummy would take uneaten food home for mom to see --- OR a kid who knows his sib will rat him out! I remember my 5 & 6 yr olds trading food w/others and everyone ended up happy. Also, any mom worth her salt flips w/smelly leftover lunches!

For years we witnessed tups bopping each other over any "deemed" problem --- so what's new about hitting and/or screaming at someone from another family. I'm certain the school worked diligently w/Khate last year as well as this year. I rather doubt the hitting issues are new. And as I stated when we first heard about the suspension, a private school will ask the parents to find another school after repeated infractions. Trust me, if the school is as good as I read it is, there are many families on the waiting list. I also applaud the silence of the school's parents (rather than making enuf $$$ for a least a year's tuition to "disclose" any info to the tabs -- as an anonymous source).
This is a sad state of affairs for the children and the judge surely has egg on HIS/HER face!

Someone Knows said...

Jane in California said:

I also notice that one of the people who used to post here quite often and assure us that no bullying went on at their private school has gone silent. Now I wonder if they ever really knew the info they claimed to know at all.

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She's still posting, (more so on another blog than on this one) but using a different name ... easy to recognize because her attitude (and writing style) shine through.

Kia Ora said...

That tee shirt that Jon wore way back, saying "lies, lies, lies". I think that told a multidute of what was going on then and hasen't changed or ended since.

Tami said...

If some of the kids were expelled I wonder if she will take all of them out. Seems odd to split them up for different schools. Maybe it's time they all leave that school that is too far away to begin with.

EnoughAlready:O said...

http://www.hollybaby.com/2010/11/10/kate-gosselin-kids-stale-food-school-expelled/


OMG! Is noone reminded of a similar Joan Crawford Mommie Dearest moment with Christina and the blood red raw steak ? That was served to her like 4 days in a row as she wouldnt eat it?

Tami said...

Additionally, if this 'close source' was aware of said 'problems' why are they reporting it to the media as opposed to utilizing the information where it would serve the best interests of the CHILDREN ie family court.
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Maybe they did. Reporting it to media does not rule that out. I have wondered if it's Jon and Ellen. He tried to tell everyone they are having a hard time and was threatened and muzzled. He may have passed on the information that they are in trouble at school so the world finally knows this is harming them and stops living in their little sheeple bubbles where Gosselin children love to go to work every day and mommy is the best mommy in the world. I read one sheeple comment saying how she has fallen for the children and looks forward to seeing them all the time and wants to watch them grow up, etc. Blech! She is probably isolated, lonely, and a childless shut-in hoping to live vicariously through the family forever. This needed to come out or the charade will continue forever.

Brummygirl said...

Someone asked what B.M. thinks about these situations. Of course she is in denial that even one tup was suspended or expelled.
Apparently the *haters* are making this up and even Jon was accused of starting this rumour.
In a sense, I too wonder where these rumours began. Consider the source, is a great saying and to believe this undeniably myself, I would like to see a more reliable source confirm it.
Saying that, I do believe that Kate has formed those children from day one and those eight little ones are only as good as their mother's role in their lives, which has been far from the idyllic one which her followers believe it to be.
There are none as blind as those who will not see.

Leane said...

CA Studio Girl said:

. . . the expulsion (or suspension) of two of the Gosselins tups really doesn't warrant the description of "tragedy".

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Maybe the expulsion doesn't, but what has led up to it certainly does, even if it is not as dramatic as the tragedies you describe in the rest of your comment.

This poor start during the first six years of these childrens' lives (and the corresponding years for their older sisters) certainly qualify as individual tragedies.

Overcoming this confusing, deprived and chaotic start in life will be a long-term struggle for all of these children.

Just how dramatic it will be remains to be seen, and, of course there is no predicting exactly what price they'll pay until they are adults trying to make their own way in another decade or so.

But a tragedy? You bet it is, for each and every one of them. You don't have to have an arm ripped off in war to end up with life-altering problems.

You can live in a mansion, have enough food to eat and a ton of material things - and experiences - and still end up completely without internal resources and in a world of pain, confused and unable to cope in life. Case in point.

Living it up in Alaska said...

I agree with your last post pinkdiamonds...but it is being reported that the kids had a monitor and the behavior didn't approve. So, I would assume the school did try. One luxury of a private school is if it isn't the "right fit", the children can go elsewhere which is what you stated in your previous post but at least (we can assume by what is reported) that steps were taken before the children were asked to leave.

I know different schools, with different missions in different parts of the country have different rules. I just don't want everyone to assume all private school caters to people with money because that isn't always the case. My previous school, which happened to be private, had a mission to educate everyone regardless of race, finances, and skill. If you wanted a small, nuturing environment with more one on one attention, my school was it. I know not all private schools operate that way.

This is quite embarrassing for the "mother of the year" who laid on bedrest for 30 weeks, who does it all for the kids, the same kids who deserve it all on a golden platter...no one knows how to help them.

I am curious when her next appearance will be in Target parking lot. Anyone got Chris's number? I love to be there and ask her a few questions...I am her biggest fan of course!

K8STFU said...

CAStudioGirl :

The actual expulsion of the kids itself is not a tragedy. What is tragic is that this expulsion is a manifestion of what is very likely an extremely abusive and dysfunctional home life combined with being forced to work in front of cameras their entire lives.

Your description of an infant in Haiti is horrible, but that doesn't make the Gosselin kids' situation any less so either. I also do not agree with your statement that their situation is completely repairable. As long as they are working, as long as they are in the grips of their sick and abusive mother, as long as TLC decides to milk them for every penny, these poor kids have no chance at living a normal life. They are only 6 and 9 years old and have been through more than most adults.

Compassion and empathy should not be based on a "it's all relative" basis. JMO.

MoGal said...

CAStudioGirl, it's being talked about because the kids parents chose to put their lives on TV. While this may not be at the same level of the tragedies in Haiti, it is a very sad and upsetting situation that could have been avoided. My compassion for the Hatians does not numb my compasion for children in our own country.

Yes, the problems with the Gosselin children are repairable, but who will step up and help them through their problems? Their mother has shown herself to be incapable to think of anyone but herself. Their father's hands have been tied by TLC and the judge. Jodi and Kevin tried to help, only to be lambasted by TLC's PR machine. The grandparents are missing in action.....who's left? The nannies sign confidentiality agreements to silence them.....

Abuse is abuse to me. I just can't judge the level of abuse a child is going through and decide it's ok because other kids have it worse.

LancNative said...

If one goes to the website of the school the G.'s attend, it states that not all students are admitted if the child does not have the skills necessary to succeed.

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This is the admissions policy. Not all applicants are admitted. Vigorous testing is done to make sure that the school can provide a match for applicants. Getting in is tough; there have been kids who have applied year after year and still were not admitted. The Gosselin kids WERE admitted and have been in attendance since last year. If a child appears to be struggling in a subject (not up to the standards of the school), then he/she is initially not asked to leave, but rather is provided with IU 13 (Intermediate Unit) tutors who work on a one-on-one basis with the student. If a child who clearly cannot keep up with the academic pace of the school leaves, it is recorded as a withdrawal, not an expulsion.

Public schools are, in fact, allowed to suspend or expel any student for behaviorial issues. Private schools do the same. Warnings are given, the parents have conferences; each case is examined on an individual basis and dealt with accordingly. This may involve meeting with the Honors Committee. Students are given every chance to tow the line. The last thing the school wants to do is to suspend a child. The first step is detention; second, suspension; and third, expulsion.

Ravello said...

Someone asked about how many kids getting on the bus. I don't know but I'll bet tabloids are en route to Wernersville and the school as we speak.
We all saw bad things coming but I never thought the tipping point would be kindergarten.
Homeschooling is not the answer. Colin and Alexis need counseling and need to be in a school environment. Is Kate too high and mighty to enroll them in public school?
Say a little prayer for all 8 G kids, especially Colin and Alexis.

fidosmommy said...

Re: taking uneaten lunches home.

My bet is that the children have been seen by lunchroom monitors or teachers as they tossed their lunches in the trash. Concerned that the children were not eating,
they may have had Kate notified. So, it is possible Kate threatened them that if that ever happened again, there would be a lot of heck to pay. So, duly cowed, the kids just bring the uneaten food home.

Just a guess, not fact.

Of course, if the kids are not eating their food on the first day it is served, it pretty well quiets rumors that Kate is not feeding them enough and they are half starved all the time. Unless they are picking food off the plates of their classmates.....

Anon said...

My bet is that the children have been seen by lunchroom monitors or teachers as they tossed their lunches in the trash. Concerned that the children were not eating,

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Close, but not quite. It's school policy that uneaten food is not thrown away. It must be taken home so that parents can see what their child has eaten or not eaten. This applies to all Kindergarten kids, not just the tups.

dustilies said...

MoGal said:

I just can't judge the level of abuse a child is going through and decide it's ok because other kids have it worse.

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Well said, MoGal. Of course we have to keep the whole subject of the Gosselins in perspective, but for me the way that eight real children are being twisted into bizarre situations in the interest of a marketable and fake "reality" is very troubling. It is awful for them, and says bad things about a nation that tolerates this kind of exploitation.

We all want to believe that parents always have the best interests of their children at heart. When I see a mother with a heart of stone, I see tragedy (in the sense that there were so many chances for the parents to make the right decision, all of them missed).

Sorry to sound so cranky, but this news is very upsetting to me. When I told my ten-year-old about expulsions of kindergarteners, she said, "How is that possible? Little kids don't even know how to be that bad." To me, it is profoundly sad that these children do.

StoryLady said...

The Gosselin children's lives are a tragedy, in my opinion.
While they are not ravaged by war or disease, they are still suffering every single day, and probably have been on some level for as long as they can remember. Studies have shown that what occurs during the first five years of a child's life is crucial to his or her future social and intellectual development.
It could be that they never fully recover from what has already been done to them. That is tragic.

silimom said...

She is probably isolated, lonely, and a childless shut-in hoping to live vicariously through the family forever. (comment regarding a sheeple)
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How is this different from the "sheeple" calling GWOP'ers fat, childless women who wear mumus and birkenstocks and have 50 or more cats (or some such description - I couldn't remember the exact wording).

I am a reasonably intelligent, college educated woman of middle age and I certainly bought into Kate and Jon's marketing campaign at first as did many of this blogs readers. I think one of the most important lessons learned in this whole saga is to not judge a book by its cover.

I think we should keep the focus on the Gosselins and not on name calling but that's just my opinion.

dustilies said...

fidosmommy said


Of course, if the kids are not eating their food on the first day it is served, it pretty well quiets rumors that Kate is not feeding them enough and they are half starved all the time.

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I know what you are getting at--hungry-enough kids usually (or ideally) eat anything set before them.

But since their parents, esp K, have been such control freaks about what they eat, how they eat, when they eat, the kids may not see eating or not eating as a simple matter of hunger and satiety.

Rather, meals have been made a battleground in the family.

What is more personal than what we put in our bodies? These kids have very little control over their lives. The lunch struggles may be their form of civil disobedience.

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

I have been posting my selfish opinions on this site for a very long time. I have respected the astute comments of so very many bloggers.

As a parent and teacher I have hard core opinions of Khate and her management of the results of her clown car uterus. (Oh, how I wish I'd first thought of that.)

However, there is no way in hell that 2 kinders could be expelled after 2 months! Their discipline history had to go back to last year and many conversations with their parents. No school, public or private, ignores serious problems and "suddenly" suspends kinders, much less expells them. This further exemplifies Khate and Jon's neglect (since I trust that both were notified again and again of any "problems").

How long do they get a free ride off the backs of these children?

HW said...

Of course the loss of any child due to natural disaster or war is beyond tragic.

What makes the Gosselin kids' situation a tragedy (and yes I believe it is a tragedy) is that they are being destroyed by their own mother. The one person in this world on whom a chid should be able to depend, is rapidly destroying her children.

pinkdiamond611 said...

This is the last post I am going to make concerning public school vs. private school. Public schools no longer EXPEL children. Children with serious behavior issues are put into SAVE rooms. It is illegal to prevent a child from receiving a free appropriate education.(There are even public school teachers who go to prisons to teach the incarcerated students under the age of 21) The school that the G family attends states plainly on the website they won't admit you if they don't think you measure up. The point is, the G's can enroll in public school tomorrow. There is no need for homeschooling.

Orlando, It's Autumn Sunrise said...

It could be that they never fully recover from what has already been done to them. That is tragic.

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Yes, it is. An event/situation doesn't have to be on the level of a war or famine to be a tragedy. It can also be a shocking or sad event, which indeed this is. I would think that, in future years, there will be a chapter devoted to this family in the textbooks studied by psychology students at colleges and universities. And that is more than sad...it's tragic.

chick said...

If, as some have suggested, the ex-nanny is the source of these rumors about lunches and so forth, SHE may wind up in some trouble.

A nanny, just like a teacher or preschool worker, is a mandated reporter. If it can be proven that any of the nannies knew of abuse issues and failed to report the problem to someone, there could becharges filed against the nanny/nannies.

Of course, that presupposes Kate hired nannies with basic knowledge of the requirements of a nanny position and some experience. I doubt she did, and even if she did, I doubt a professional nanny would have taken the job!

Harvest Moon said...

I read one sheeple comment saying how she has fallen for the children and looks forward to seeing them all the time and wants to watch them grow up, etc.

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How do we know that these sheeple are indeed lonely, isolated, childless women? Pedophiles come in all shapes and sizes, and some of the sheeple's posts are so bizarre and fightening that one must wonder exactly who they are and what their mind-set is. I wonder who or what is really behind their masks. I've seen some of the videos on YouTube, in which they idolize this family to the point where it's more than just creepy. It's enough to get them committed.

readerlady said...

I seem to remember a show where Jon said something along the lines of Alexis and one of her brothers (I don't remember for sure which one, but I want to say it was Collin) couldn't be in the same group together because they caused all kinds of mayhem. Does anyone else remember this and know what episode it was in? If I'm remembering this correctly, then it could help explain what is going on here. If all 6 kids are in the same kindergarten classroom, that certainly would escalate their behavior. As others have pointed out, they have a pack mentality because their mother, in particular, treats them like a pack and not like the individuals they are.

Re private schools vs. public schools and behavior issues - I've taught in both private and public schools, special ed. and regular classroom - and currently volunteer at a private (parochial) school. BOTH types of schools employ progressive discipline, with dismissal being the last resort, but I don't agree that private schools are more likely to employ it. Of course, I've never been associated with an exclusive private school such as the one the G8 attend, but my experience has been that the private schools tend to be more willing and able to work with the children who have behavior problems. I'm currently a classroom aid for a child with severe behavioral issues due to developmental delays and congenital defects. The child's been expelled from 2 public school districts because of behavioral issues (and the districts' refusal to provide the monitoring and assistance needed to succeed in the classroom). There've been issues here, too, but we refuse to give up. Maybe it's because we're a church school, but we try harder. If this story about Collin and Alexis is true, then I hope they can find a similar nurturing educational environment to help them work out their problems.

NoUse4Kate said...

K8STFU said....

Your description of an infant in Haiti is horrible, but that doesn't make the Gosselin kids' situation any less so either. I also do not agree with your statement that their situation is completely repairable. As long as they are working, as long as they are in the grips of their sick and abusive mother, as long as TLC decides to milk them for every penny, these poor kids have no chance at living a normal life. They are only 6 and 9 years old and have been through more than most adults.




I totally agreee. Emotional/mental abuse is something that those children will be haunted with for the rest of their lives. Hopefully they will find what they need to cope with it through life and not repeat the abusive cycle that K8 has started with them. :(

RyzandShyn said...

All children go through the phase where they don't really care if the attention they are receiving is negative or positive, it's the attention that matters. They soon learn that the rewards and privileges that come with the positive outweighs the consequences that come with the negative, and they comply.
However, children with behavioral and emotional health problems don't. They continue to use negative actions to gain attention. They find as they get older they receive even more attention for the negative...never realizing that the attention is because it's so bizarre for a child their age to be behaving that way.
What we have here are children who learned through the example of an older sibling that negative behavior is a show-stopper, a great way to garner attention. They are further confused by the conflicting messages they receive from their celebrity. They are negotiating a divorce situation, seeking the attention they need to be stable. On top of all this, they are from a large family unit, looking for their place and confirmation that they are valued as individuals.
What a mess when it's handled incorrectly!!

Captain of the Titanic (it's finally starting to sink) said...

One comment regarding the children swearing: Where do they learn that stuff? How about being herded around by TLC's camera crew, producer and director? I'd be willing to bet that their language is pretty foul and they probably never even consider that the children are hearing it.

This is not to say that the kids aren't hearing it from any of the parents or nannies, but my money is on the crew, especially when they have to reshoot scenes because the kids aren't following the script.

ChurchMouse said...

Just wondering how long before Ms. Gosselin blames all of the behavioral issues on her ex-husband.

KiSSy said...

If the stories are true that the kids were expelled, its certainly not Kate's fault , its the school. They obviously don't understand how to teach the kids. It runs on the family.

Maggie said...

We are getting a lot of anonymous comments, please put a name on them or they will not be published. Thank you.

Vanessa said...

@Readerlady,
Yes, I remember. Jon or Kate said something like "Let's put it this way, they won't be going to the prom together."

ChurchMouse said...

And here's a flash from the past:

January 13th, 2010--softpedia.com
"Speaking with the media in a recent interview cited by OMG Yahoo!, Kate reveals that, while she’s now ok with the idea that she and Jon are separated for good and no longer have anything in common, the children are having a hard time. In fact, she says, the entire situation is extremely confusing for them, from not being on a reality show anymore to having to deal with the realities of divorce.

Because of this, Kate has already seen to it that they get professional help, with a counselor coming over to the house to help them understand what are the changes occurring in their life. “I’ve got to get my kids back on track, my career back on track and my family back on track. They start counseling in the next two weeks. I’m definitely seeing signs that it’s a major need at this point,” Kate says."

So, counseling was started this year in January?

Lola said...

When my son was in first grade I was notified that he was saying a swear word in class. I asked him where he had learned that word- he told me his reading buddies who were grade 6 students that came to their class had said it!!! So he learned it at school. I am not excusing the Gosselin kids' behavior
since we have seen how they are aggressive and treated by their mom but you never know where they pick up stuff.

Hippie Chick said...

Sorry to post again, & I posted this on another site. Why hasn't Kate's rep come forward & said something about his expulsion rumor, fact or false? If true, the rep should have put some kind of positive spin on it, however they do that. If it's false, they should address that, making sure the public, & Kate's fans (all 2 of them) know that it's a lie. Is Kate so in love with attention that even negative press is OK with her? We are talking about her children here! Wouldn't she want to clear this up for the sake of her kids if false? Unbelievable.

txmom said...

Here's a thought: Viewership way down. TLC has new darling in sister wives..
TLC is the one planting the stories; perhaps they have turned off KI's p.r. machine and have finally turned their back on her.They are also behind Chris the photo guy, and why haven't we seen any recent pics?

This seems sorta crazy..but hasn't this entire show been insane? This way, they can exit out on their terms, saying KI needs at this time to be focusing on her kids....I wouldn't be shocked at all.

bonehead said...

Well, it is true that the public schools have to take all kids. And the private/ religious schools would dump their kids with problems in the public schools. I went K-12th grade in Chicago Public school system. And we had families where half the kids went to public school(for behavioral problems) and half went to religious school. The public school would then have a school that they would send kids who caused trouble to. One place to send all the bad kids to, we even had a school for the disabled children back then. Public school was not exactly a dumping ground for bad kids, they just had no choice. As for K8, wait there will be more problems to come. or another thought, perhaps those 2 tups are not ready for kindergarden, and were told to go home and try next year. Course Kate can't stand the children not being perfect, so when asked by say a nanny, they were told they got suspended, rather then Kate admitting that the kids are behind a lot. So, when next year comes they will try kindergarden again. I also remembered , that Kate was saying that 2 of the tups were not ready for kindergarden last year, and instead of breaking them up, she held all 6 back, maybe these are the tups who were not ready for kindergarden last year and probably not ready this year either. Which is Kates' fault, for not getting them ready. Well, we do know why.

sad sad sad said...

What a sad sad situation(if any of this is true), but where are all the paps? It is interesting that main stream entertainment news has not picked up on this. Why hasn't Radar online filmed 8 minus two children going to school? Why haven't papprazzi been stalking Jon and Kate as the run errands to find out what is going on? This is hot, juicy stuff!!

Anne said...

While flipping channels early this morning, I discovered Jon & Kate on TLC. It was the Utah ski trip episode. I was stunned to hear them say the kids were 7 and 3 in that episode. How can so much change in such a short period of time? Less than 3 years ago Beth was a part of their lives, Jodi was a part of their lives, Kate was attractive and did no screeching (although not much parenting either i.e. the typical "Jon take her I can't deal with her"). Jon was so hands on and genuinely had fun with his kids. Kate of course had her fun at the spa.

I can't imagine the whirlwind that has been these kids' lives for the past 3 years, not to mention Jon and Kate's. The fact that the kids and Kate haven't received therapy apparently is tragic.

Tami said...

How is this different from the "sheeple" calling GWOP'ers fat, childless women who wear mumus and birkenstocks and have 50 or more cats (or some such description - I couldn't remember the exact wording).

I am a reasonably intelligent, college educated woman of middle age and I certainly bought into Kate and Jon's marketing campaign at first as did many of this blogs readers. I think one of the most important lessons learned in this whole saga is to not judge a book by its cover.

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The comment is not about people who bought into it in the beginning. However, when die-hard sheeple continue to obsess over that family and insist that the show needs to go on forever, I will stand by that opinion strongly. There is something abnormal about the people who do not see how wrong it is. And yes, many are childless because I have seen the comments along the lines of these kids being their substitute kids or grandkids or whatever, sort of like the people who use the lifelike dolls as their kids..

Tami said...

She is probably isolated, lonely, and a childless shut-in hoping to live vicariously through the family forever. (comment regarding a sheeple)
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How is this different from the "sheeple" calling GWOP'ers fat, childless women who wear mumus and birkenstocks and have 50 or more cats (or some such description - I couldn't remember the exact wording).

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Additionally, it was not similar to the sheeple name calling because I was not discussing their clothes or shoes or weight, but their way of life, which is likely one that does not include active motherhood. If it did, they would not be SO invested in this family and would not think Kate's mothering is anywhere close to good!

Sport said...

At what point do you abandon everything else and focus on PARENTING? For most of us I imagine it started a few weeks before the birth of your child.

We have all seen warning signs for years with this family. This latest incident with the kids is a HUGE red flag. How can any decent human being not focus your energy on those poor kids and try to fix the problem??

kHATE is beyond selfish. More then merely a narcissist. In her obsession with the limelight she is truly missing the boat and I can only conclude she has mental issues. I dont mean for this to be name calling, but that woman is obviously lacking in smarts and common sense.

Sport said...

Common Sense.

Again, when I think about this desperate situation a few simple steps come to mind. Who knows if they would help - they certainly couldn't hurt.

The main thing I see with the kids (ignoring the abomination of a mother) is a lack of individuality. Do they ever go to a friends house to play? Park? Are they ever separated to allow individual interests to flourish?

I only have 2 kids but sometimes my Ex and I each take one for the day just because the dynamics are so vastly different. It also allows a unique one-on-one bonding with each kid (and its a ton of fun!)

With 8 kids why not occasionally send a couple to Dad's for a day or two to break things up? In their case it would also make things MUCH more manageable?

Why not sell the mansion and get TWO upper class homes nearby for the sake of THE FAMILY??

Bottom line: whatever kHATE is doing (and not doing) currently is not working. Mix it up. Focus on the kids. TALK TO THEM. PARENT THEM.

Holy cow this is a mess ...

C said...

pinkdiamond611 said...
"The point is, the G's can enroll in public school tomorrow. There is no need for homeschooling."

Quite true, but I doubt that Kate, at least, would see public schooling as an acceptable option. I doubt that she would consider public schools "gentrified" enough for her children, given her own obsession with status symbols. Also, she likely fears what her little money makers might do or say in front of the hoi polloi, and thinks that the paps are more likely to hear details about public school shenanigans.

Educate the 8 said...

My guess: by tomorrow, the story will be spun that the kids were taken to another school because they have some sort of "special need." And frankly, I think that will probably not be far from the truth. "Side by side" aides are not given out lightly, and as a special ed grad school major, I have never heard of one acting like Phil Spector's bodyguard to a bully. (Spector had a guard to stop him from shooting people. Ultimately, it didn't work.)

My guess is that there were other issues besides just cursing and hitting. You have to have some serious problems for a child study team to suggest a one-to-one. Being an annoying brat won't cut it--every other kid would have one at some point, LOL!

Let's hope they are not homeschooled by untrained Carla and go into a special school or a public school where a trained staff can give them the help they need.

If they do--this might be what ends their tv career. They are one of the only sets of higher order multiples where nobody had any physical or mental issues (compare with the Mc Caugheys or Hayes families, for example.) Maybe now-not so much.

Kaylee said...

Funny, the tabloids were almost devoid of any Gosselin-related stories while the show was "on hiatus". Now that it seems they've decided to give it another go (filming in the Halloween pumpkin patch recently as evidence), all of a sudden K+8 are back in the headlines (first Eric Roberts' comment and now this latest scandal). I smell media plants and publicity stunts from TLC.

Shoshanna said...

I'm not an expert in this area, but it seems to me that these poor kids (especially the girls) are being set up as perfect candidates for eating disorders later in life.

Anorexics are typically children who has no say about their own life and resort to anorexia/bulimia in order to feel they have some control. It sure seems to me that Kate has managed to damage them in permanent ways which will undoubtedly come out as they get older.

This woman must be stopped. But how? And by whom?

Heart Of The Ocean said...

Pink said, This is the last post I am going to make concerning public school vs. private school. Public schools no longer EXPEL children.

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I'm not sure where you are, but here they have the right to expel children, and they do. Two kids were expelled last month from a public school here for a knock-down drag-out fight; another kid was expelled on the first day of school for having a knife in his backpack. This is not to say that the kid can't enroll in another public school in the district, but he can't go back to the school that expelled him.

K8STFU said...

There is something abnormal about the people who do not see how wrong it is. (snip) .... sort of like the people who use the lifelike dolls as their kids..

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I agree Tami. It is NOT NORMAL to see K8's behavior and not think there is something seriously wrong with her and the way she, ahem, "parents".

Also, I happened to see a documentary type show on the ladies who spend all their $$ on those life-like dolls - they are called "Reborn Dolls" and originate from Australia, IIRC. Very disturbing.

Midwest Teacher said...

As a public school educator I know first hand that it takes a lot for a student to be expelled from a public school. The decision is brought to the district's school board and must be weighed very carefully. Facts are presented, parents and teachers are allowed to support the student involved through written letters or in person. With that said, private school is a completely different animal. As many others have said, private schools do not want to lose tuition money, but they also don't want to have anything disrupt the school environment that many people are paying high dollars for their children to attend. I can only imagine how Kate interacts with school staff and other parents. The childrens' behavior(as sad as it may be) may be the straw that broke the camel's back. It may be the private school's way of eliminating Kate from their school. I know there are 6 other kids still there, but this may open the door and cause Kate to pull the rest of them out.

Other question... Are we sure it's an expulsion and not just a suspension? Both kids are not allowed to return, period? Can they return next year?

Hippie Chick said...

sad sad sad said...

What a sad sad situation(if any of this is true), but where are all the paps? It is interesting that main stream entertainment news has not picked up on this.

Mainstream media does NOT care. Kate is nothing. She is a reality has-been. They have bigger celebrities to cover IMO.

Carol in PA said...

I saw this on E news this morning about 2 of the Gosselin kids. Alexis and Colin were the two they mentioned as far as getting suspended for 2 weeks. I feel sorry for those kids, but then again, look who their role model is.......Khate. God have mercy on those children.

Brummygirl said...

Sport said:
Why not sell the mansion and get TWO upper class homes nearby for the sake of THE FAMILY??
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Sport, do you think *Mine all Mine* would let go of her mansion to help Jon or her kids although it is a great idea.
Kate does not think logically and probably as far as she is concerned,it would be a step down in her entitled life.
I do wonder what is going to happen to her financially when all this fades away. No problem, there will be plenty of people reporting this Fall of the Empire!!
Poor kids, they do not stand a chance of a normal life. The followers (I am not going to call them Sheeple) :)say everything she does is okay. They have their opinion, the same as we do, but for goodness sake, something must
have shown them a red light in six years regarding Kate's attitude.
Her #1 fan, goes ballistic when anyone attacks Kate and does not give anyone a voice unless they too worship Kate. They state that they do not understand anyone hating someone whom they have never met. I find it equally strange that they adore someone they too have never met. That went out with teenage idols.
I am also wondering why we have not heard Jon tweeting about these latest rumours.
JMO in all this folks!!

Leigh Ann said...

I can't believe I didn't think of this until now, probably because the kid in question is 19 and graduated from high school last June. My cousin was expelled from a private pre-K/kindergarten. And it was just a few weeks into the school year, too. His issue (among others, I'm sure) was hitting. The last straw was when he hit a kid in the head with a sand bucket and drew blood. So out he went. My grandmother worked with him that year (she kept him while my aunt was at work) then the next year he went to a special two-year kindergarten program in the public school. It was something between mainstream and special ed. classes. Also, he got other help. He was diagnosed with Asperger's and ADHD, put on medication and saw a psychiatrist regularly. He had impulse control issues for a long time and would occasionally hit someone, touch a hot stove, etc. But with a lot of help and work he's turned out to be a reasonably functioning adult. If the Gosselin kids can get that kind of help and attention, there's hope for them, too. But that's a pretty big If considering the circumstances.

C said...

And now for something completely different:

OCD. Most of us here agree that whatever motivates Kate's cleaning freak-outs isn't obsessive-compulsive disorder. The question I have is...why on earth would the producers even imply that she is OCD as part of Kate's "everymom" persona? It's not a cute, endearing little personality quirk. It isn't funny; it isn't funny to have, it isn't funny to observe, and it isn't funny to deal with someone with OCD. Granted, people with OCD don't all suffer to the same degree--not everyone with OCD would be a good subject for A&E's Obsessed. Still, it isn't charming.

No Worry, Beef Curry said...

Brummy,
My guess is, we have not heard Jon tweeting about the expulsion rumors- because they are true. He said his peace (after the insane filming verdict), in stating on Twitter that his children are in fact, suffering serious behavioral problems. And I believe every single word, without question.

I truly feel sorry for the two children, if they are no longer attending the school. I guess we will find out soon (right Chris?) Imagine waking up to 'Sister Kate', with her tablet and big wooden spoon in hand... agh.

On another note, I would like to mention - some of the Sheeple decided to tweet actor, Eric Roberts after Abuse-Gate. I can just see them now...

"Erikkkk u r JES JELLUS of Kate coz she has moneey and U dont & U R a hater"

sillyrabbit said...

Sport said...
At what point do you abandon everything else and focus on PARENTING? For most of us I imagine it started a few weeks before the birth of your child.

Kate Gosselin doesnt have the TIME to focus on parenting her children; that's what the nannies are for. Kate has more important priorities to tend to such as making sure her lawyers convince a judge and the court system that her eight children SHOULD AND MUST continue WORKING in order to provide her a lifestyle she cannot otherwise afford ALL on OWN!

Living it Up in Alaska said...

Chick, you brought a good point. Nannies are mandated reporters. So, what would be put in a TLC contract of "shut up and don't tell what really happens" that would prevent a nanny to say something to an authority? I wonder how educated and the age of the nannies...I used to babysit all the time when I was in my twenties. I look at things so differently now that I am in my mid thirties with a child of my own. Things I would have been so naive about blare in my face now. Would TLC threaten them if they said anything and the nannies be to naive to know what their legal responsiblities are?

jj said...

It doesn't matter if its a Public or Private school. If a child is expelled from school, it is entirely the parents fault. 100%.

I'm sure the school sent numerous warnings and it was up to Kate or Jon to discipline the child who is acting out.

Private Schools may be a bit stricter when it comes to things like this because they have an Image to live up to. So they weed out the trouble makers.

Public School only get paid by the number of students that show up to class. So they do everything possible to avoid expulsion. And it's the last resort.

Having said that, I have never heard any Kindergartners being expelled. This is new to me.

Sport said...

Brummygirl said:
"Sport, do you think *Mine all Mine* would let go of her mansion to help Jon or her kids although it is a great idea."

No of course I dont expect her to see anything like I see it ;) She would have to get to a point in her selfish existence where she honestly puts the kids first - then my suggestion is an obvious solution.

But obviously her insecurities and low self esteem mean she cant even see that her kids need TWO parents. They need time with their father - even more important with Mom being so unbalanced.

They should be splitting time with the kids, and both homes should be similar and the 8 should have toys and activities at both so they feel as close to normal as possible.

In my case (divorced) I even bought an extra set of board games we like, activities, a video game system, etc that I gave to my ex-wife to have at her place so mine wouldnt be 'the video game house' and subliminally make my kids want to be here more, or make dad cooler because he has the video games. Not fair to their mom and really not a healthy situation to be using your kids as pawns to make yourself feel better.

Kids need BOTH parents whenever possible. The G8 dont have any special circumstances that would dictate them not spending time with their father other than their selfish, narcissistic, psycho mother who doesn't enjoy being with them yet is too insecure for them to be having fun with their dad.

Just sad really.

Brummygirl said...

A thought here:
Whether true or not, how do you think T.L.C. will view these rumours about their Golden Girl and the kids?
Will they consider it great P.R. as once again they are in the limelight plastered all over the internet highway or....will this be the final nail in the show?
Just wondering........

Delete Kate said...

When will the expulsion episode be airing?

This one is sure to boost the ratings!

I’m sure advertisers are lining up!!

Go Eileen O’Neill Go

Hippie Chick said...

I have to say I find it quite amusing (& pathetic) that Kate thought this gravy train would go on forever. She is a reality TV personality, nothing more. (I refuse to say 'star', she is NOT). She is not talented in the least. She has no skills beyond carrying children, which most woman can do. Frankly, she does not deserve those children & there are women in the world who cannot have kids that are more deserving.

Kate cannot act, sing, be a wife, friend, mother, & she can't even be herself for Christ's sake. She went into this thinking she would be a famous celebrity forever, that she would be taken care of forever. She had no idea that she would become synonymous with "the worst mother in the world" label. She had a chance to do good by those kids, teach them about charity, helping others, being upstanding members of society, & all she is teaching them is greed, vanity, that there is never enough money, control, anger, aggression, bullying, and unhappiness. I can't believe she went into this thinking that she would be famous forever. Now, she is just infamous, & in such an awful way. Greed, thy name is Kate Gosselin.

K8STFU said...

Basics on the latest supposed incident between K8 and Mady (from ROL and another site). THIS HAS NOT YET BEEN PROVEN TO BE TRUE, NOR HAS "THE SOURCE" BEEN CONFIRMED AS LEGIT.

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*** Kate grabbed Mady and shook her so hard that the TV crew had to break up her scuffle , the personal assistant to Todd Palin wanted to file charges against Kate for child abuse.

*** The production crew of the show demanded that Kate/kids be edited out of the footage but was denied by top brass (ratings). In several of the scenes you see Sara Palin looking at Kate in disgust and also not even acknowledging her.

*** The deal that was made : the Palins and crew would not report it (did not want the negative exposure) if Kate left that evening and gave no interviews regarding the Alaska trip or they would report the incident to local PA authorities.

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Apparently there is a pic of the group and Mady looks like she's been crying. Also, Mady apparently was not seen in a lot of the Alaska epi because she didn't participate as a result of this scuffle.

I am not a big fan of Sarah's but I cannot imagine she or her family members would agree to such a deal . Wish I could say the same for the folks at TLC. And I wish I could say that I can't imagine K8 acting that way either.......

Monster Mommy said...

One thing that has always plagued me, is why Kate tells the media... "I don't know WHY the public doesn't like me".

Do she mean to tell us, that she reads every internet rumor out there about hefself... Yet has NO clue as to why she is not "America's Sweetheart"? Read the comments section, Kate and you will be enlightened (after all these years of wondering why).

Monster Mommy said...

Whoops, I meant DOES she mean to tell us.

I am just hearing about the Mady and Kate 'incident'. I suspected there was trouble, when I heard Mady was absentee at the dog sleds, and saw so many alarming photos of the child in tears.

LisaCT said...

Our local news broadcasted "Gosselins expelled" Names Alexis and Collin and then further went onto say they have major anger issues since the divorce. We all know where the anger issues come from, watching how their mother behaves all these years.

hayden said...

Living it Up in Alaska said...
"Chick, you brought a good point. Nannies are mandated reporters. So, what would be put in a TLC contract of "shut up and don't tell what really happens" that would prevent a nanny to say something to an authority"?
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This is an interesting topic indeed. There has been speculation on other blogs as to why Kate seems to hire very young local girls to nanny instead of going through a reputable agency. The consensus was that Kate wants a young girl who won't challenge or question her demands or speak up too much. Also, it was discussed that Kate could have a more naive young lady sign the confidentially agreement and she could potentially be led to think she is not allowed to reveal anything she sees that might be amiss. While an experienced, trained nanny would be fully aware of her rights and obligations. Again, all speculation.... but food for thought nonetheless.

Vanessa said...

@ Lola, I agree. The school bus is also a place where kids "pick up" bad language/behaviour.

Hippie Chick said...

K8STFU...If this rumor is true about the Palin camp not reporting an abuse, then I don't like them even more than I did before. (does that make sense?) How could they in good conscience not say something? Just so they wouldn't get negative press? When will someone step in & help those kids?

MabelD said...

From NY Post article:

Kate's kids expelled

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Previously, one of the sextuplet girls had been suspended from school for two weeks after hitting a classmate, according to reports.

TLC had no comment. A source close to the situation, though, told The Post that mom Kate Gosselin's "number one concern is protecting her children and is keeping this personal situation as a private matter that she works out with her kids."

more… http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/kate_kids_expelled_dUDOUrU7MQzXw7Hnq6byBJ#ixzz154lIADlB

Anne said...

I realize you need to be a really "different" person to be a sheeple, but how do they not see their own hypocricy when every tabloid story about Jon is the truth in their eyes, every positive tabloid story about Kate is true to them and every negative Kate story is lies, lies and lies that she should sue over. It's simply baffling.

lukebandit... said...

No wonder Mady was so upset! I can't believe this! I hope that Mady and Cara get emancipated in a couple of years and sue Kate and TLC! Surely, if this is true, Jon could still do something about it. Did they go to Alaska after the hearing or before the hearing about Jon getting the kids off tv?
I can't believe Grown Ups like the Palins would let kate off the hook about the abuse to mady and the others. I wonder if the 2 days of quality time spent with PurseBoy was to difuse the situation and get her calmed down. Those poor kids need to get away from her. If she would do that in front of the Palins, what is going on behind doors?
I saw pictures of Jon and Ellen holding hands and Ellen was walking her cutie pie little dog. They look stress free. The other picture shows kate in the black mini skirt and the gladiator sandals and the kids look so miserable.
I hope that Judge is miserable with himself/herself and having nightmares to keep him/her awake all night.

gherkin said...

I wonder how long it will be before someone like Dr. Phil enters the picture and Kate and the troubled kids will be on his show getting "counseling". I would not put it past Kate or Dr. Phil.

Kate can boo hoo on camera and talk again about how hard it is as a single mother and how she is so lonely, etc. Nevermind that her kids are totally screwed up because of her.

bonehead said...

To: Sport: could agree with your more. You hit the nail on the head. That is what should have taken place, but it didn't. I just read that now Kate is tryin to protect the 2 Tups privacy about the expelling from school. SORRY KATE TOO LATE, IT'S ALL OVER THE NEWS. If Kate had half of some common sense, she would make a statement, about what happen, without going into detail. Something like: Yes, there was a situation, with 2 of my children and we/I are handling it. We/I are asking that everyone please give us the privacy at this time, we/I need to deal with this. Thank You. But NO Kate is too embarrassed, these kids are ruining her chances of a career. This also, if Kate had any common sense, the not saying anything, says a lot. Jon, is not saying anything, because it is a private matter. Plus, if Jon does say anything, the idiots/sheeple/cult of Kate will rip him, as you all know. The blame here is Kate, she has cut, her kids off from everyone that matters. She has unequal custody with Jon. Which means, she is fully responsible for their actions, since the kids are around her most of the 24/7. Jon's time around the kids(visitation), looks to have been cut down since the divorce. So, instead of sharing equal custody with Jon, Kate gets the kids most of the time, and then goes to the media and whine/crys/complains/bitches about how hard it is being a divorce(oops she does not use that word) single mom raising eight kids by herself, with no help BOOOHOOO! I'm so sick of that phrase, just like that other phrase of hers: I do this for my kids. I'll be glad when she is gone. I hope nothing tragic happens to any of the kids, and that they get the help they need. JMO

jj said...

Vanessa said...

@ Lola, I agree. The school bus is also a place where kids "pick up" bad language/behaviour.

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But we're talking about the Gosselin kids here. They are usually clumped together and on their way to a Prestige Private School.

Not saying students who attend don't have foul language but I don't think the kids got it there.

Most likely, the playground would be a one location... Another would be a home.

I mean, can you think of anyone that lives in the home that likes to yell, fight and hit? Someone that bashed the kids father not only to the kids but on National TV?

Or how about the 10+ nannies that came and went. I'm sure those young nannies never yelled at the kids when they lost their temper....

Geri said...

The NY post has picked up the story about the Gosselin tups being expelled.

http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/kate_kids_expelled_dUDOUrU7MQzXw7Hnq6byBJ

K8STFU said...

I wonder how long it will be before someone like Dr. Phil enters the picture and Kate and the troubled kids will be on his show getting "counseling". I would not put it past Kate or Dr. Phil.

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Jon mentioned that he wanted to go for counseling, they did approach Dr Phil, but Dr Phil /K8 were only interested in how to repair "the brand" not the marriage. IIRC, this was mentioned on Dr Phil's show and he kinda ignored it (but didn't deny it).

Dr Phil, Oprah, etc, they are all the same.


Regarding the alleged incident in Alaska, I do think that the "report" is probably overly dramatized but that there are also some kernels of truth to it.

Jane in CA said...

It's bad enough that "Dr." Phil messes about with the lives of adults, but he should definitely keep his nose out of the very real issues facing the Gosselin kids. He's not even a real psychologist is he? He's just a guy who plays at it for the tee vee.

I wish the children would be allowed access to some good counseling, and both parents monitored by outside sources to be sure they are behaving properly (Kate - rage issues), I doubt it will ever happen. Those kids are just going to continue on as they are, and make their way the best they can to adulthood. I foresee that some, if not all of them, are going to have serious issues and problems, and Kate and TLC will probably get off scot free, gleefully pocketing the money they made off these children.

I won't call it a silver lining anymore, but one thing that has taken permanent hold with me after this Gosselin tragedy, is that I will never watch a reality show again that involves minor children. Personally, I think it should be outlawed.

anaimogene said...

How does the court continue to side with Kate Gosselin?

The original arrangement, of the parents being the ones to move in and out of the McMansion seemed like the best solution for the children. Apparently “the queen” wanted it to stop and the courts agreed.

The twins will be able to choose which parent they want to live with full time at age twelve, but the damage will continue until then. Unless someone is appointed an advocate for the children only.

Its time for the Judge on down to purse boy to stop enabling her horrible behavior. It seems none of them want to stop the money train.

Why doesn’t Jon have a voice in any of this? Does TLC have him by the you know what? Is that how Kate got everything, even “the children’s home”? Kate’s words not mine.

SaNdY said...

When I think about these recent situations coming to the forefront: the expulsion of the 2 tups from school and the alleged shaking of Mady by Kate, (bad enough that an assistant wanted to report Kate for child abuse)...it makes my stomach turn....and I know the shaking incident is not substantiated, but it sure sounds like something Kate would have no problem doing to any of her kids...my question is: where are Jon, Jodi, Kevin, the grandparents, Beth, ANYONE involved with these kids and why can't SOMEONE help them??? These incidents are HUGE red flags and this family is screaming for help and NO ONE is helping because of Kate and her power and control over these kids...this just gets worse and worse, until, I fear, something horrible happens that cannot be reversed....I pray for these kids and for someone to step in and help them...

Amy2 said...

OT. I recently saw a picture of the entire family when the tups were about 3 years old. And then I flash forwarded to today's headlines. All I could think about is the kids did the worst thing possible in show business...they grew up. They passed the cute stage and they did not remain silent. IMO the children have had a peek at a "normal" life and know what they do isn't normal. Nobody is listening to them;
Jon failed (but is trying),
Jodi/Kevin failed,
Kate failed (never tried),
grandparents failed (did they try?),
the legal system failed.

What recourse do they have? These are children, not adults, the only thing they can do is rebel and take the consequences from Kate. And that brings me back to today's headlines of the kids acting out.

SafetyTrain said...

Regarding Kate and physical punishment.................there was an incident in a live TV interview that was overshadowed by the water-withholding part of it (which happened right before the interview started). Kate pinched Alexis to get her to stop fighting with Collin. You can see Alexis visibly wince in pain, grab her arm, and stare at Kate bewildered for more than a few seconds - so I don't think Kate gave her a painless "reminder to behave" tap on the shoulder. They cut away to old film footage when it was pretty evident that the pain seemed to be lingering longer than it should have. The idiot interviewer even joked about how quickly Kate got Alexis to listen (yeah, pain will do that to a person, lady). Later in the video, as a testament to the effectiveness of this particular parenting technique, Alexis then starts to push Joel who was sitting on the other side her, but the camera cuts away quickly once that started happening. How people think she is a great mother is beyond me. You can see it here. It starts right around the 52 second mark. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLoZUlQWdlk And this is also the interview where Mady says she like her dad better. I wonder if Kate ever did live TV with them again?

Miranda said...

Mady, through her acting-out behaviors, has been practically screaming for help since the very beginning of the show. But no one has ever (successfully) stepped in to protect her.

Now there's a report of witnessed physical abuse. If this turns out to be true, will it finally be enough to prompt someone to rescue this poor child? If not, how much more will it take??

faline said...

SafetyTrain, I agree with you. I saw the exact same thing on that clip of the live interview. I actually wondered how she could do that in front of millions of people(not that she should do it at all). Almost like she lost the ability to keep herself in check.

And to how long this has been going on? Well the season 2 epi of 10 little pumpkins (or something like that title) when the little kids were in the carriages and the twins standing next to it, kate was getting upset over bringing the kids to the bathroom. One second she was reaching for one of the twins and then they cut it out and the next second you see Mady/Cara holding her arm screaming.

dee43 said...

People.com is carrying the news about the kids being expelled. I wonder how they feel after they promoted her so much.

dustilies said...

Amy2 said:
What recourse do they have? These are children, not adults, the only thing they can do is rebel and take the consequences from Kate. And that brings me back to today's headlines of the kids acting out.

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Well said, Amy! Yes, who will listen to a six-year-old about problems in the home? I think a lot of teachers, without the signs that require mandatory reporting, wouldn't have a conversation with little kids about problem s with mom and dad--may think it isn't appropriate, isn't their job, or is risky in some way. Sometimes dear grandparents and aunts and uncles serve as confidants.

But unless an elementary school kid has a therapist or a special clergy person to go to, who is going to listen to them or draw out the stuff they are struggling with.

And we know the G8 have been cut off from all adults outside Kate, Jon, Ellen, domestic staff, film crews, and teachers (ans two seem to have been cut off from teachers in "home schol." Sadly, I think we are going to be hearing about these kids for decades to come.

I wish for them a beautiful, quiet life. Right now, prayer is all I have to offer them.

my9cats said...

dee43 said...
People.com is carrying the news about the kids being expelled. I wonder how they feel after they promoted her so much."

People is probably jumping up and down yelling 'yipee'. Another exclusive interview (sob sob it's all Jon's fault) and perhaps a cover of Kate wearing her cornfield boots, holding whips and chains.

tmbg said...

Well, it's easy enough to pick up foul language. I learned it on my own through school and believe it or not, once from the sidewalk! The difference is that when I asked my folks about it, they told me not to repeat that word and that it was vulgar and that was the end of that. These kids most likely have zero respect for Kate, so if they swear in front of her and she tells them no, they'll keep doing it anyway. Kate is not a respectable parent as we all know by now. Or, knowing how she ignores them, she probably never noticed or corrected it. They've been controlled for their entire short lives, and their anger is beginning to come out in unhealthy ways. It kind of happened to me, although not in the form of bullying and never in the form of trouble at school.

Ladylou said...

If something is to be done to help the children everyone should see it is NOW!
I agree that parents are to blame when children act up. In this case the blame goes to Kate... being she is sole custody here.

It is clearer than a cloudless day in July that the warning signs were there and now the storm has begun.
Kate is mostly absent from her children in mind as well as body.
TLC should be very careful now... having this family heading for disaster right before the eyes of the viewers.
I won't be watching but I will continue to pray for these poor children, "may God open someone's eyes before it really is too late".

K8STFU said...

People is probably jumping up and down yelling 'yipee'. Another exclusive interview (sob sob it's all Jon's fault)...
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That's exactly it. K8 will keep this a "private matter" until People offers her $$$ for "her side of the story " which she has already told about 8, countem 8, times and always involves throwing Jon under the bus.

Monkey See Monkey Do said...

When I saw how the kids treated Jaime's son in the basement organizing episode, I thought they couldn't possibly be that bratty. I thought it must be scripted. Now I'm thinking not so much. Ish.

NoUse4Kate said...

From a woman named Laura over on People's site:

"kate's a wonderful mother. who really knows what was beyond this article.
everyone calm the frig down and butt out. hey if only 2 out of 8 is causing problems you're doing good. Hang in there Kate. it's life!!!"


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She seems to be one of the few idiots left. The tide has changed and k8 is being slammed one comment after another and people like Laura, are being slammed too. It's about freaking time. So when is she going to make the circuit and blame it all on Jon? It will be interesting to see how she blames him this time as she has custody of them most of the time, they live with her, she controls them, their contracts, etc....katie irene, you dug a hole that is so big that you won't be able to get out of this one by blaming everyone else.

My prayers go out to those kids, may they get the help they need.

no more said...

I won't call it a silver lining anymore, but one thing that has taken permanent hold with me after this Gosselin tragedy, is that I will never watch a reality show again that involves minor children. Personally, I think it should be outlawed.

Amen to that. This show makes me look at any reality show differently. I have to remind myself almost everything is planned or scripted to create some sort of drama.

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

Many, many parents are in serious denial re. their child's behavior at school. I once told a parent that her (2nd grade) son was giving kids the finger and saying, "F you." She swore up and down that he could never, never have done that. "He has NO idea what that would mean!"

Children would never talk that way around me, but they SURE DO on the playground! And they probably learned the language from someone's older sib. Kids love to know "bad" language and are able to (most often) use it appropriately! Many students in my 3rd grade classes have even taken great pride in knowing "cuss words" in Spanish or Arabic -- lol.
(I teach in an inner city school --not a fancy private school, but kids are basically the same all over the socio economic spectrum.)
My own children attended a very high achieving private school; kids are now doctors, lawyers, and indian chiefs -- and boy, when they didn't think an adult was within earshot, their language was very, very colorful.

While I don't fault the Gossenlin's language on much more than acting out, the violence is, indeed, a serious problem.

They've had enough said...

Kate/TLC's response is going to be the tipping point for the whole Gosselin saga. I imagine they are holed up somewhere trying to figure out how to spin this whole thing so that Jon is once again the cause. It doesn't matter that Kate/TLC have manipulated (IMO) things so that she ends up as the custodial parent, they just need to come up with something vaguely plausible and folks like dear Laura will buy it; but with every new drama that comes out, more and more people are starting to see the light about our Miss Kate and it's not good. Having said that, if they try to spin this and take the blame off Kate, I think that even more people will be turned off and this will be the end; however, if they acknowledge what's going on and take the standard "We are dealing with this privately" route and stop with the filming and photo ops, people will possibly be more understanding. IMO, people have moved on and would like to see things go well for the kids, but no one is clamoring to see this train wreck anymore.

Kate/TLC: you have done enough to these kids. You have made millions of dollars off of them and robbed 8, count 'em, 8 kids of their childhoods. It is now time to let them be. Get them out of the opotlight, and let them heal and grow. It's not too late.

K8STFU said...

I just read that TLC plans to air the Halloween epi the week after Thanksgiving. Not only does that make absolutely no sense from a timeline perspective, it once again proves just how immoral, despicable, repugnant and unethical TLC is. The Gosselin kids are suffering through some major issues, but TLC/K8 only care about airing another epi ? (which, I believe, was filmed around the time the 2 tups were expelled )

Brummygirl said...

My question is this. Is everyone within the P.A. judicial system, without newspapers, t.v., internet (highly unlikely) or magazines?
How can you fail to hear about something going on in your own city?
I don't want to hear that their hands are tied etc. etc., I want someone to acknowledge that there was a grave mistake at the last court hearing when they decided that these children could continue to be filmed.
They did not do their research. I can see them deciding that children should be with their mother (loose term in this case) but filming?
The laws in the State of P.A. seem archaic at best. What about the people of P.A. who know more than we hear about this family, is no one going to lodge concern?
WHO is going to step in and save these children before irreparable damage is done.

No Worry, Beef Curry said...

Anne...
Were there really ANY positive tabloid (or actual news) stories running about Kate, over the last several months? Not that I recall. As I see it- IT'S OVER. I get your point though... more than you can imagine. The Sheeple are impossible.

Oh wait, I forgot about the People issue of "Kate's New Banging Photoshopped Body!" It was like night and day. They even moved that super-creepy, wonky belly button down a few inches. Good thing Kate still has that beast, Kate Coyne on her side.

jj said...

If it's a reality show, why isn't TLC airing the part where the kids were expelled and show us how Kate handled it?

Kate is a great mother right? So why not "Document" the day she received a call from the school and show us how she reacted?

Oh, I know why, because Kate didn't care. The only thing Kate got angry about was when she received a phone call in the middle of the afternoon and it disrupted her sleep.

Monster Mommy said...

That's right, Brummy. Who? Anyone? Jon is not the only person currently speaking out against the filming of the children, yet nothing is being done to stop TLC.

It is maddening. All the while... Kate thinks the kids are just fine, as long as they are eating their 1/2 a stale sandwich first, then their chips. WTF? The girl tup' in question, was also recently seen by a journalist, spatting on her sibling at Bald Head Island. Ignoring the problem, does not make it go away.

Can't See Sheep said...

Brummygirl, well said, it would be nice to know who wll step up & save these kids. Infortunately I'm not as nice as you & still wonder if PA judges are elected, TLC has might deep pockets & a conribution here & there, well, you know.

I think if someone does not step in soon one of a few things will happen to stop this. One kate will "hang" herself with all the rope she's been handed over the years, I believe we are now witnessing the beginning of the descent of the shrew.

Or the children will save themselves in that one they could behave so badly that it can't possibly be ingored, some third party has no choice but to step in or someone said at age 12 they'll be able to choose which parent they'll live with. I see the twins packing their bags the night before their 12th birthday. Yes kate will probably threaten them something fierce & make their last days with her hell, but in the end it's likely Jon will have the tiny full house & kate will be on her own.
It's not going to matter to them if they have to figure out how to all live with one bathroom, they'll do it because that'll be the house they feel loved & secure in, two things their mother seems to have had little interest in providing for them. All the vacations & perks in the world aren't going to matter to them. kate has done enough to them to last a lifetime, not only has she emotionally & mentally damaged them, but she's robbed her own kids. Thank goodness they were born without any serious physical problems because it's going to take a lifetime for them to sort out the mess their so called mother has caused them.

Can't See Sheep said...

From a woman named Laura over on People's site:

"kate's a wonderful mother. who really knows what was beyond this article.
everyone calm the frig down and butt out. hey if only 2 out of 8 is causing problems you're doing good. Hang in there Kate. it's life!!!



WTH?!?!? We're not talking about kate being back in elementary school & only getting two wrong on a pop quiz out of ten so she still scored 80% here. Good heaven's their logic knows no end of stupidity. If only 2 out 8 is causing problems you're doing good (hugish eyeroll. Also everytime I read that sentance I hear a Bubba J laugh at the end of it.). The children were not merely causing problems they were EXPELLED FROM KINDERGARTEN.

protect8 said...

A lot of what happens with Kate in the next week or two will have to do with how much TLC wants to try to resseurect her image - and how much they feel they need to resseurect their image related to the Gosselins. They took a monster and created a bigger monster. The attempt to create a new image for Kate starting with hair extensions and DWTS backfired.

Kate's only hope, if TLC drops her, is other reality television. We'll see her on Celebrity Apprentice or some kind of weird bachelor type show where men are challenged to date her. Then she'll make the rounds with a tell all book (it will include being abused as a child, an eating disorder and other childhood pressures that caused her to be the way she is) that someone else writes - the subtitle will be the "Victimization of Kate."

I hope that Kate gets fed up with the kids and sends them off to live with Jon.