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190 comments:

Class Dismissed said...

I am not very religious, but I can clearly see there are plenty of people praying for the Gosselin 8 these days- including myself.

There has to be a major problem with Kate's ability to parent, when 1/3 of the sextuplets are expelled from school, only two and a half months into their first year of Kindergarten class. That is normally unheard of. When TLC continues to film these kids, it shows us they do not care about their welfare, but only lackluster ratings.

Tami said...

I'll bet Kate and her people are desperately searching for talk shows that will take her on so she can get out her fake spin on recent events. She will probably claim they are messed up because of Jon leaving them to go off with girlfriends and divorcing her but that adding a bad financial situation (stopping the show) will just make things worse for them. I can just hear it all now.

Said with dread said...

Gosselins have been off my radar for several months now but, wow, back in the news with worry for poor Collin and Alexis. With a jaundiced eye, I wondered if the kids were being used to get the parents back in the news again but I've scrolled back thru some of the past weeks' postings here and I seem to have missed a lot about Jon apparently FINALLY manning up, which many of us always hoped would happen (and if he can just keep at it and be consistent, be strong). If there's truly trouble in school, it's hard not to have a heavy heart about it because it's what how many thousands of viewers feared would happen as the children grew older...the fallout/result of the abnormal life on film to which they've been subjected (apparently "rage issues" if the alleged reports result in truth). It just makes me want to cry inside, having been on the sidelines, watching it go down over the years, this thing about "reality" and it might be a crazy life but it was THEIR life...who'd WANT that life?! If it was so hard for viewers or readers, think what it must be for grandparents, or the kids' aunts and uncles, cousins to not know how or what to do? Kate's got a lot of power. Jon and Kate need to get creative and real about how to financially support their kids without filming. I'm not saying it's easy...how can anybody know who hasn't stood in their shoes...but there have been other families of multiples in previous "eras" (I'm remembering the Fischer quints, probably early 1960s) and they somehow managed to raise large families without a media circus. There's gotta be a way to keep a family surviving without putting the kids to work. This isn't my grandfather's childhood (c.1905), when kids had to quit school and work in factories or farms to keep food on the family table (earn their keep). Go, Jon! Sounded like he's been speaking from the heart, better late than never. Home schooling, though? Who's the teacher? Kate? That's the solution? Seems more like part of the problem.

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

The best thing that can happen at this point is .... Jon's silence.

The many blogs I've read are 99% anti Khate.

Our prayers are indeed needed for those little lambs.

she is evil said...

Interesting what you posted, Said with Dread, about it being a 'crazy life, but it's our life', and who would want that life.... I think almost everyone agrees with not wanting that life. I'd dread having cameras and the American viewing public in my home, privy to my private space and time. And I'd most certainly not want my children's lives invaded this way. Even basic things such as eating, brushing one's teeth, or being dressed in one's pajamas are off limits, except in front of family or very close friends, IMO. But what's so strange is that stupid Kate Gosselin wanted that life, and allegedly plotted to have that life long before she forced her hapless husband into trying for 'one more' and using fertility treatments (!!?!) to acheive that supposed goal. It was Kate who wanted that life so badly that she gave birth to more children than they could afford to support and way more children than she is capable of treating lovingly. Even with all that has been revealed about the downside of filming (having your home invaded, the cameras inches from your face, the hot lights, kate's idiotic insistence that her very young children stay neat and clean and matching, the long hours, the lack of breaks between seasons, the low pay for the majority of the show's life, the brief paparazzi interest), Kate STILL wants that life. Doesn't matter how many people have suffered horribly for it, that she lost her marriage and all but destroyed her once loving husband, that she lost all of her friends and family, that she is hated and thought of as a terrible mother, and of course, that her kids' lives have been ruined. The woman has 8 kids who are socially inept because of their isolation from the world, who literally live like orphans due to her neglect and mistreatment, and who have suffered the loss of their father by her strongarming him out of their lives most of the time. These kids are her prisoners and live a miserable life all for the sake of a depressing reality show with fading ratings. Kate wants that life, despite all the harm it has done to everyone, even herself. It's really quite mindboggling, isn't it? She certainly is not a normal person, and may be quite sick in the head to still want that life.

Kit said...

Maybe the twist in "Twist of Kate" is that TLC drops her like a hot potato. Or maybe KATE gets a visit...from Mrs. Dilley, who shows Kate how to raise normal, happy, well-adjusted sextuplets.

We could only hope...

Sick to death of her said...

TlC, is not done yet. Air the Halloween episode at Thanksgiving? What is TLC's angle here, what audience are they targeting? Families? I don't know about you, but don't the networks run the Xmas, show and kids type movies around this time. Why would anyone willing watch K8, when we all know, what she is exactly going to do. Also, TLC is not even gonna make a statement(damage control) or have Kate address it. Now Kate camp wants privacy, it's too late for that now. It's been all over the media for a week now. I guess, Kate is embarrassed and angry, cause the kids are ruining her career chances. Well, Kate, you wanted near full custody of your BRAND, you got it. Don't go blaming Jon. JMO

Sassypaws said...

Given the drop in her ratings on TLC, perhaps the next show Kate should audition for is ABC's Supernanny.

Sadly I suspect that Kate is beyond even Jo Frost's ability to help. Supernanny's solutions to behavior issues requires the parents to listen to her and willingly take her advise. Sorry but I can't see Kate doing that.

Michelle said...

It's over. I don't believe there will be a way for her to come back from this one and save face. She has said a million times that she does it all for her kids. I think it's time to put up or shut up.

If she has even tiny bit of dignity in that fake body of hers, she needs to find it and put it to work. America has been telling her to get her kids off tv for a long time. If TLC spins this into an episode, that will be the biggest shame in America. Nobody cares about Kate anymore. People have been screaming to get those camera's out of the kids faces. The almighty TLC dollar stopped Jon in his tracks from doing so but this...this just might help him now. Six year olds don't get expelled from private schools. There is so much wrong with this. Tragic.

On a different, rather frightening note, I saw a clip about reality show contestants and stars this week and how much of a let down reality is when they go back to their real life. So many have committed suicide because they couldn't handle things anymore when the show was over. Totally unacceptable. Reality is anything but real.

PR in PA said...

This is just sad. Although we all knew what being on TV their whole lives would be like and the type of parenting they've received we're starting to see the results of it. Expelled at this age??!?!!

This just needs to end now! TLC needs to step up for once and take the cameras away and cancel anything that has to do with Kate and the kids.

KiSSy said...

She is evil. You have said quite eloquently what is on the hearts and minds of most of the poster's here.

The top is about to fall on the gosselins circus. The animals will stampede and someone will end up seriously injured. And so I fear for the children because there is no 1 really looking out for their interests on a daily basis. Who will be there to pull them out from under the rubble? Who is left ?there is no one that is in the children's lives who are not paid to be there. It is very sad.

When will Kate learn that money can't buy you love?

MomofFour said...

Sadly enough, it's not surprising that the kids got expelled. Even more sad is the kids have problems because their mother is warped. Not one of us is surprised. If they have rage issues then we pretty much know where that came from. The saddest part of it all is that Kate is so warped she won't get help for her kids. People who need psychiatric help tend to refuse that help. Let us pray that Jon can get help for the kids.

I do not think Kate's fantasy world is going to end up so nice. She not only ruined her own life, she ruined the life of the little children she brought into the world to USE for HER OWN BENEFIT. Not to mention ruining Jon's. It's just a sad, sad, thing that one person can destry so many people. Let's pray that the kids find a path AWAY from their narcissistic mother.

pinkdiamond611 said...

I think that the best thing that could happen is that Kart realizes that she needs her family, and ask them for their help. The family will give the children unconditional love and they can all start healing.

SaNdY said...

she is evil said...
Interesting what you posted, Said with Dread, about it being a 'crazy life, but it's our life', and who would want that life.... I think almost everyone agrees with not wanting that life
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Very well stated, she is evil, I agree with your post 100%....after all the damage and wreckage Kate has cause her kids, as well as Jon and exteneded family and friends, she still chooses to go on with the show....

Monster Mommy said...

The tide has finally turned (and for good this time)...

Yahoo.com's "Trending" item #2 this morning, is Kate Gosselin and the expulsion story.

It's official, now the world knows about Kate's bad parenting-- and there's no turning back.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?cs=bz&p=Kate+Gosselin&fr=fp-tts-701&fr2=ps

Lillie Mae Acres said...

OMGoodness, I just read where Kate thinks the expulsion from school is a "private matter and should not be discussed in public". Since when????? My goodness this is the mommy dearest that has made EVERYTHING from poo poo problems, sickness, and everything else about the kids PUBLIC. If the show goes on, she'll make sure the world knows the exact moment the twins comes into womanhood if you know what I mean.
She's loving that this has gave the media something else to talk about.

Aeduko said...

IMO part of the issue is that the kids have no sense of individual identity. Their show is based on being one of 2 or one of 6. It's like the Borg on Star Trek only this time 2of6 and 3of6 got expelled from kindergarten and The Borg Queen will have to do something to save the Tup Cooperative. ALL of the Kate blogs -- either pro or anti -- call them the tups. WTF? Tups? They sound like Tupperware on a shelf. I know sextuplet is a large word, and I'm big on abbreviating myself, but tups? It just sounds bad.

But then their mother. Well, someone had a pretty early midlife crisis with the blonde extensions, face tweaks, and continuing fillers/botox, posing for magazines in a bikini with that canned smile that never reaches her eyes . . . someone whose claim to fame is being the perfect mom. She dresses them identically; yet another blow to her kids' identities. No wonder they act out. They might want someone -- ANYONE -- to notice they are actual people with minds of their own.

Her (ex) husband sure had a very public case of Post Divorce Effing Syndrome, blew all his money, and then had to do a huge reality check. Did it work? At least he now says the right things. Whether he does them or not, who knows, but at least he isn't hiding behind being the Perfect Parent anymore.

No Worry, Beef Curry said...

I don't suspect we will see photos of Kate out trolling the parking lot of Target... shopping in trashy garb and hooker heels anytime soon. It's no surprise that TLC and Kate can not be reached for comment.

The general mood in the media and on the web, after the recent news about the children has been dismal/solemn (and rather sad to witness). I wish there was something else we could have done, to end the madness. Besides refusing to watch, writing letters, and supporting "A Minor Consideration", what is left?

Hippie Chick said...

OK, my take on things: First of all, yes, Jon FINALLY fought for custody, but was it too late? I have always been on Jon's side, but did he wait too long in his attempt to get those kids away from Kate? She has been controlling those kids, filming them, being an awful parent for far too long now, & the damage has been done. I applaud Jon for manning up, and who knows what he's doing behind closed doors, I hope beyond hope he is compiling hard evidence right now against Kate/TLC to get back into court with new representation to get those kids some help.

Now, if Kate starts making the rounds on talk shows, or magazines about these expulsions, after her stating this is a private matter? This would make her a laughing stock. She can't place the blame on anyone but herself. Jon has kept quiet, he has done nothing but what he was supposed to do. Kate is the ONLY one to blame here. If she starts pointing fingers, she will look like a complete idiot. She has claimed time & again that she is "the sole provider" for the kids, so yeah Kate, who is to blame here? YOU. It's your fault you didn't teach your kids peer relationships, basic social skills, etc. From what I read here, they still even act like toddlers. Kate's fault. I'm sorry, maybe people will disagree, but when Kate won't even let Jon see his kids half the time, & Kate is "doing this all alone", & she is forcing them in the spotlight, Kate is to blame. She is an awful mother, person, human. I feel no sympathy for her & I live by the creed; "Good will towards my fellow man". I AM a hippie... :) But she has brought this on herself because fame & money were more important to her. Here's hoping Jon keeps fighting, & fighting hard.

NoUse4Kate said...

What is really sad to think about is the treatment that Colin and Alexis are no doubt receiving from K8 because of this. :'(

Monster Mommy said...

GWoP Mods-
Thanks for posting my earlier comment about Kate on the Yahoo.com main page... I appreciate all of you!

UPDATE-
The Kate Gosselin expulsion story is now @ "Trending" ITEM #1.

How will 'Camp Kate' explain away this one?

Exhausted said...

I do find it appalling though that TLC will most likely just wash their hands of this mess and walk away. I couldn't care less if they left Kate in a ditch somewhere, but these poor kids. TLC has made millions off of their childhood, and they enabled a woman they knew had mental problems, catering to her delusions and turning a blind eye to some pretty clear cases of neglect and possible abuse.

Jon and Kate signed up for this nightmare, but TLC definitely has a hand in the mess they've made of these children's lives. I think they should be footing the bills for therapy, college, and, um, a new set of parents?

Brummygirl said...

Mo Worry Beef Curry
I wish there was something else we could have done, to end the madness. Besides refusing to watch, writing letters, and supporting "A Minor Consideration", what is left?
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If T.L.C. has the audacity to air the next K8+8 program, I fear that because of this debacle going on, people WILL tune in to see what happens and to see if they can spot any misery on the part of the children. So, out goes the low ratings again.
I refuse to watch this charade but you can bet the ratings will go up and that will undo the drop we have been experiencing.
I only hope I am proved wrong!

SaNdY said...

Lillie Mae Acres said...
OMGoodness, I just read where Kate thinks the expulsion from school is a "private matter and should not be discussed in public". Since when????? My goodness this is the mommy dearest that has made EVERYTHING from poo poo problems, sickness, and everything else about the kids PUBLIC.
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Yes, I so agree with you Lillie Mae Acres, isn't ironic that she put their whole lives out there for everyone to see (including pedophiles because they ARE out there), and now wants do a 360 and be private about this situation??? She has the same mindset about the 'P people'....they can't take photos of her and her brood, only TLC cameras can capture every private moment of those kids lives, whether the kids agree or not...can't have it both ways, Kate..

K8STFU said...

She is an awful mother, person, human. I feel no sympathy for her & I live by the creed; "Good will towards my fellow man". I AM a hippie... :) But she has brought this on herself because fame & money were more important to her.

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I agree HC and I am no hippie =)
I cannot find it in my heart to have one iota of sympathy for K8. She had every opportunity to do the right thing and chose celebrity and fortune instead.

Her kids have been hurting for a very long time. What did K8 do earlier in the past six months ? She went to Cabo with Steve and a photo-shopped photo shoot for People Rag. What did she do around the time the kids were expelled ? Films them "playing" at a corn maze for the upcoming Halloween epi that will air after Thanksgiving.

Nope, no sympathy from me.

Jaxmom said...

Those poor kids. It sucks to be a bad kid and get expelled from Kindy. It sucks 1000x more to have the entire world know about.

Just as Kate did with Maddy... labeling her the problem child... now poor Collin and Alexis, have been labeled forever more.

So, I guess one of the not-a-Nannies is homeschooling the kids? One hopes that it would be Jon.

Not This Time! said...

Tami said...

I'll bet Kate and her people are desperately searching for talk shows that will take her on so she can get out her fake spin on recent events.

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I would be really surprised if she would do this. This is totally different from the other talk show circuits when she evoked sympathy from the interviewers and audiences. This isn't about Jon. This is about the kids, and she'd be asked questions about their behavior, and she'd have to explain what they did to get expelled. I don't think that this time she's going to have too many believers, and I doubt that any shows are going to want to touch this one.

It's kind of like the boy crying wolf. Other times she might have had some believers, but you can't keep fooling people. This would be just one time too many.

qwerty said...

here is how I am speculating it will all turn out:

Kate will be so happy that she "chose" to remove the two tups from private school and homeschool them, that she will decide to remove the other four.

Now we will see "Field Trips" as Kae the 'can do' homeschooling single mom educates her kids in the big wide world!

Opportunity said...

In the chance that any of the Gosselins read this blog, I'd like to recommend a few resources for kids with anger issues.

The book, "The Angry Octopus" by Lori Lite teaches kids how to relax when they get angry. Also by the same author is "Sea Otter Cove."

The book, "Respectful Parents, Respectful Kids" by Sura Hart gives a whole bunch of tools--one of the most useful, being Nonviolent Communication. I would also consider seeking out some NVC practioners who may specialize with kids.

The Shambala Center offers children's camps. Kripalu Center in Lenox, Mass also may have some resources.

It's horrible that they got kicked out...but they are young enough to learn techniques to cope with their anger/rage which can really be beneficial.

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

Oh dear, I fear Brummy is right. There are too many fools out there who will tune in -- if only to be turned off!

Anne said...

So her kids were clearly struggling in school, yet priority number 1 was spending a week in Mexico for a photo shoot and a story on her body. Only Kate. She's had her butt kissed for so long, I'm sure she couldn't even fathom that although her kids were teetering on the bring of explusion when she took off for Mexico it might actually happen. In her mind, special treatment is always expected. Hopefully this will be a good wake-up call for her (doubtful though).

And I'm sure Jon wasn't allowed to stay at the house with the kids while she was gone. He was probably allowed a couple hours after school and then back to the nannies. Just what kids struggling need - more nanny time.

I'm convinced Kate has definite mental health issues that need to be addressed ASAP if those kids stand a chance.

IceMountain said...

Hippie Chick, your post at 10:14am is right on the money. I was going to post similar sentiments, but you said it all. She really can't (but will try to) blame Jon for this situation. She really set herself up here for failure-- any excuse she comes up w/ will be a blatant lie.

I pray that all of the kids can eventually turn this situation into a positive learning experience. It will take a lot of work, but w/ the right adults involved, may be possible.

wildflowers said...

Lillie Mae Acres said...
OMGoodness, I just read where Kate thinks the expulsion from school is a "private matter and should not be discussed in public". Since when????? My goodness this is the mommy dearest that has made EVERYTHING from poo poo problems, sickness, and everything else about the kids PUBLIC.
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Kate ( or her PR team) also thought the divorce was a 'private matter' but that didnt stop Kate from appearing on any media outlet that would give her air time to publicly discuss the matter. IIRC, during the time of the divorce , Kate publicly and in print discussed how her children physically and emotionally reacted to the divorce. Kate knows darn well that if she kept EVERYTHING about her, and or her children's life private, the public would have absolutely ZERO interest in HER, or anything she is attempting to promote.

BerksPa said...

The video of Jon dropping the kids off and the little ones crying and screaming "Daddy don't go" now speaks volumes when it comes to the recent reports of the children's expulsion.

I'm praying for those little ones. Their whole world has been a topsy turvy mess since they were born...and worse...since TLC got into the picture.

Katie Dearest said...

I agree with everyone's remark that she was too busy shooting a People mag cover in Mexico to care for her kids when the whole expulsion thing went down.

Let's not forget her Emmy Red Carpet appearance and opening act as well. That was at the end of September...2-3 weeks into the kids 1st quarter.

Too busy playing hollywood.

KiSSy said...

I just read through pennsylvanias home school law
Compared to what I have here in maryland it is really a nightmare. There are a lot of hoops to jump through and a lot of standards to meet. And there appears to the an incredible amount of supervision that takes place by people outside of the home schooling arena. PUblic school superintendents and psychologists have the right to review her program and determine if the children should be taken into public schools if theyre not getting the education and services they need. Kate is really going to have her hands full with this.


If anyone ever wondered what would happen if there was a real life truman show, well now you know. These kids have been duped into thinking that their life on camera is reality. I hope they make it to the edge of the bubble and find their way out.

Minka's Tail said...

My predictions and the odds:
The school feels ashamed for throwing out babies and takes them back-2:1

Kate leaked this story to humiliate the school and make them take them back-3:1

Kate homeschools everybody (which people have been predicting for years) 3:1.

Kate homeschools everybody if TLC will film them more: 1.1-1

Kate sends Mady, Alexis and Collin to live with their father: 8-1

Kate sends them all to live with their father: 100-1

Kate sends them to live with their father after the show is cancelled: 5-1

Kate sends them to live with their father after the show is cancelled, after Steve leaves his wife, and after she gets on a tacky reality bad girls show without them: 1-2

chocolatebee said...

This needs to be a wake up call for Kate.She has ignored the many previous ones so now she needs to take heed. Children this young with behavior problems are on a path to a difficult future if there is not early intervention. All the children have exhibited some unruly behavior but Alexis in particular has always been tough to handle. But you can not blame the children. When a family goes through the type of monumental changes this one has before and after the divorce, there is bound to be some disruptive behavior among the little ones. However, having a supportive, hands on parent there to support the children through the process makes it much easier on them. These children do not have that.

I can guarentee you Kate is not homeschooling Alexis and Colin herself. I would love to see this family go back to being "normal". Kate and the kids could move to a smaller home, she could go back to being a nurse (they make really good money) and the kids could live out of the spotlight and have visitation with Jon on weekends. My heart goes out to the eight kids because they have all suffered the most through this. If Kate is too blind to see that she needs to stop chasing the almighty entertainment dollar and go home to raise her children, then she can't be surprised to be called a terrible mother. Her kids need her desperately. And believe it or not people do raise that many kids without a television show. These families profit off of America's obsession with supersize families with no regard to what this dysfunction does to their families.

homeschoolpamom said...

I live in Pa.(not too far from KHATE) and I have homeschooled my kids...even though the homeschooling laws seem tough...if you get with someone who knows what they are doing it's not that bad. Actually since the kids are under 8 (compulsary age in pa) she doesn't have to send any evidence to the school district that she is homeschooling. Also she could be doing cyber school which Pa has that option which is public school at home. If she paid for the kids for the whole year at the private school, they also have the option to give her the curriculum for her to do at home. So in PA there are many options..

pigletto said...

Hi everybody. I have a question. Why are the kids starting full time K @ 6 years old? I was born in October, and I was just about to turn 5 when I started. (25 years ago.) My nephew is 6 and is in 1st grade at this point. Is this because they attend private school?

The Lies said...

I went lurking tonight at the number one fan site. People mag had better watch out.
You know that mag that had the queen showing all her tata glory and her toned abs and pecs and not one iota of any cellulite. The mag we all said was photoshopped up the yingyang but we was just jellus.
Well now that mag is in the dumpster for repeating false info about 2 of the tups being booted from school. The queen bee probably pulled them out because they could get a better education at home. I will not mention the names of the 2 tups. That apparently is a no-no. But its okay with them if the poop inpacted tup is mentioned by name, as well as the pukers and the hatefuls ones.
Does serious physical harm have to hit these poor kids before someone steps up. My god what does it take for that woman to see what she has done.

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

All that land is ridic -- groundskeepers alone must be a small fortune. And we know they only play in the driveway. Mizz Khate needs to downsize. Hey, what about two smaller houses so kids might enjoy each parent in some comfort?

Kudos to the school for trying its best (monitors) and the parents for silence. And I'll bet there are sighs of relief all 'round to quietly return a sense of order to the kindergarten.

Miranda said...

NoUse4Kate said...
What is really sad to think about is the treatment that Colin and Alexis are no doubt receiving from K8 because of this. :'(

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NoUse, that's my fear as well. When a Closet Abuser/Bully is crossed, their victims pay manyfold.

Not This Time! -- Yes, Kate is surely calculating which show or interviewer will pay her the most for an "exclusive." Sadly, I'll bet there's no shortage of offers from those vultures.

Orlando, It's Autumn Sunrise said...

Now we will see "Field Trips" as Kae the 'can do' homeschooling single mom educates her kids in the big wide world!

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Haven't we been seeing that all along? Their lives are just one big field trip -- one long succession of vacations and luxury beach houses that most families can only dream about.

Opportunity Knocks said...

Opportunity said...
In the chance that any of the Gosselins read this blog, I'd like to recommend a few resources for kids with anger issues.
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A very thoughtful post, helpful to any one of us. Thank you, Opportunity.

have some dignity said...

Katie Dearest said...
I agree with everyone's remark that she was too busy shooting a People mag cover in Mexico to care for her kids when the whole expulsion thing went down.
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People magazine must be getting desperate. Is Kate even a D-lister? When she's not in the news, who even thinks about her? Of course, I just answered my own question. Anything to get noticed...and paid.

Chris said...

I just worry now that Kate will take these events to "write" a book on divorce. I do not want to see her on the talk show circuit as the new expert exposing the kids issues and blaming thm on everyone but poor hard working Kate.

h84kate said...

Wikipedia lists that Twist of Kate had 12 episodes ordered by TLC but that the current status of the project is "cancelled."

2 months ago my YT account was removed because of TLC claiming copyright infringement. This has happened before and I went with the names nohate4kate, hate4kate, noh84kate, and now h84kate. I haven't changed anything but I think because of the latest name I'm getting nothing but criticism. The Sheeple aren't very bright. I equally make fun of Jon, but there haven't been many videos of him to critique. They are all offended and I think it's funny.

LancNative said...

If she paid for the kids for the whole year at the private school, they also have the option to give her the curriculum for her to do at home. So in PA there are many options..

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If she took out tuition insurance she will have a part of the money refunded.
They do not have to give her the curriculum to do at home if she chooses a refund.

Harvest Moon said...

So, I guess one of the not-a-Nannies is homeschooling the kids? One hopes that it would be Jon.

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I thought Carla is homeschooling the kids. Didn't she write on her page that she "got two new kids?"

Misty said...

I am shocked that I am reading articles that state TLC will still planning to air an episode on November 28th. I guess this episode is the Halloween special. First, with the current struggles of her children, why would they do this? Second, will all of the reports of her sleeping while they trick or treated and the great account by another blog about the faked corn maze outing, does TLC seriously think anybody at all will buy this BS?

mother to multiples said...

I am fairly new to this blog, Who is Carla?

Brummygirl said...

ChocolateBee said:

Kate and the kids could move to a smaller home, she could go back to being a nurse (they make really good money) and the kids could live out of the spotlight and have visitation with Jon on weekends.
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I do not think that will ever happen. Kate's own words of "you cannot go back" ratifies that.
She would be mortified to be classed as a mere mortal instead of a celebrity.
Her whole take on this situation with the two children, is how much it embarrassed HER!!
I realised a long time ago that Kate does not put other people first and sees no wrong in this. Such is the nature of her personality.
I hope the children are not homeschooled by her. Patience is not her virtue and I have a vision of her standing by with the wooden spoon.
No one has mentioned what effect this has had on the other four sextuplets. Surely it is a division for them too.

twins241 said...

I just spent some time reading many of the articles and comments about the expulsion. Guess who is getting blamed? The school. That's right. The sheeple feel it is ridiculous for those children to have been expelled. The school should be equipped to handle it especially since it's a private school. My twins go to a private school in South Bend. At a school function the other evening the expulsion of the 2 tups was brought up. The director put in her thoughts on the matter. The general consensus is that private school will go to great lengths to assist children with issues but the parent has to be involved. That is where the blame lies.

Sharla said...

Based on some comments that did were rejected, I need to clarify for some readers - the schools the Gosselin children attend(ed) is private but NOT Christian.

LancNative said...

The general consensus is that private school will go to great lengths to assist children with issues but the parent has to be involved. That is where the blame lies.

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Great lengths is an understatement. The last thing the school wants to do is to expel a student, especially a child in Kindergarten. It's the last resort. There are warnings given, detention, suspension and expulsion. Parents are called immediately after the first offense (same day, if not within the hour). They are kept informed every step of the way. Parental cooperation is a must.

I think maybe the sheeple are under the delusion that the school would look the other way and cater to Kate because of the "celebrity" status. It doesn't happen. I wonder how they would feel if they were the parents of a student who was being teased, tormented, perhaps the object of hitting, and the child doing the act would not be reprimanded or removed. Would they say then that the tormentor had every right to stay, knowing that their own child is being picked on?

Who know what goes through the minds of sheeple?

she is evil said...

Ever since the separation, I have watched with a heavy heart as Kate has wrangled control of the kids from Jon in an underhanded, backstabbing fashion only to neglect them while they are with her. I've wondered how Jon's parental rights could have been so diminished even though he was always a loving father to those kids. The karma seemed so wrong to me. But now I wonder if it was all meant to be in order to show the world exactly who has wronged those kids. Kate has no one to blame for the expulsion but herself, try as she may. She has crowed about doing it all alone...job shittily done, Kate. I think those kids are now officially unmarketable. Yes, they were medical miracles and once cute. And kate often implied that the kids being so 'well adjusted' meant that filming was AOK and of course, that she was a great mom. But it's now indisputable that they are not the sweet and well-mannered kids Kate and the sheeple claim they are.
In fact, two in particular do not sound ok at all as they bully classmates and demonstrate obvious anger a mere month or two into kindergarten. So maybe it was all meant to be karmically. That Kate would get almost complete control of the kids, would brag that they are products of her mothering, and then they would implode publicly and thereby expose her for the crap mom that she is. Here's hoping for a happy ending: Jon really has his act together, gets custody of those kids and they all live quietly and happily ever after.

Tow The Line, Kids! said...

"No one has mentioned what effect this has had on the other four sextuplets. Surely it is a division for them too."

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Would Kate use this as a behavior control mechanism, telling them that if they misbehaved, too, that they would be punished as their brother and sister were, and they would never see their school friends or their teachers again?

Can't See Sheep said...

Lillie Mae Acres said...
OMGoodness, I just read where Kate thinks the expulsion from school is a "private matter and should not be discussed in public". Since when????? My goodness this is the mommy dearest that has made EVERYTHING from poo poo problems, sickness, and everything else about the kids PUBLIC.
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Again, I'm not a therapist, I can only speak from what I've observed. The shrew has no filter unless she percieves something to damage her. So long as it was damaging the kids, that's okay, but she's a classic N, I will always bet a boat load of cash on that. This expulsion she may very likely see as something the children did to embarass & humiliate her, she is the victim in her mind, not the kids, that's what N's do they take things like this personally & don't actually see or deal with the real problem as they're too busy pitying themselves & admitting anything would mean they'd be to blame for something & that simpley can't happen in the world of the N.

They may if pressed, superfically admit blame, but it's a lie, much like any apology they are pressed to give. I am very frightend for these kids & part of me wonders if this is being acknowledged in hopes there will be no more attention given to the rumours of Mady's abuse in Alaska, something that would put a serious nail in katie's coffin.

This will be up to Jon, the kids, a third party, but it'll never be effecively dealt with by kate.

Also it's not likely kate will downsize or any of that, for an N that would be to admit defeat & defeat is never an option. Even when Rome is burning down around their ears they continue to spin their little worlds.

alyssa said...

pigletto said...
Hi everybody. I have a question. Why are the kids starting full time K @ 6 years old? I was born in October, and I was just about to turn 5 when I started. (25 years ago.) My nephew is 6 and is in 1st grade at this point. Is this because they attend private school?
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Because last year(when they were 5) three of the children did not qualify to go to full time k and kate's solution was [to prepare them over the summer so they can qualify in fall] to take them to the beach and God knows where else to film all summer and HOLD the three that were ready BACK as well...That is why! The kids are DELAYED I have been saying this for over a year now...Delayed can mean not just speech development but also inability to pay attention, follow instructions or respect rules btw..They are sitting in high chairs,drinking out of straw cups,using velcrow shoes and wearing bibs AT SIX for God's sake!

pinkdiamond611 said...

It is evident that TLC simply has tossed the Kart and family aside like day old bread. They are now pushing the Palin show 24/7 and wherever you look in other media. It will be interesting to see if they keep the G footage. For me personally, the entire G saga is way past the snarking stage. These are children that TLC, along with the delusional, greedy mother, DESTROYED.

faline said...

Hi Pigleto-- some of the sextuplets were not ready for kindergarten, so Kate held all of them back a year. That's why they are much older than other Kindergarten students.

Lillie Mae Acres said...

My personal op of how their future will look because of TLC & their witch mom:
If any of the kids make it into adulthood with their sanity, I guess they can sue the state of PA for knowing they were being used/abused/neglected/slaved out/etc. yet not removing them from all the harm.
The state had better look out because you know there are attorneys out there just waiting to pounce on this one.
They are going to be like the other "used to be cute" famous faces that are in and out of trouble these days all over the headlines, rehab, jail. An unstable much too public childhood filled w/ special attention & favors (freebies) usually comes back to slap you in the face.

Aunt Chris said...

Harvest Moon said: I thought Carla is homeschooling the kids. Didn't she write on her page that she "got two new kids?"


How far away does Carla live? I thought they were closer to the old neighborhood, so these 2 children could still be facing a long ride twice a day. And if Mom is the one doing the driving (BIG "if" there)the comfort of a school bus full of kids sounds a lot more comfortable.

Just My Few Canadian Cents said...

While it's sad the children are experiencing difficulties, kudos to the school for not kowtowing to Kate because she is (in)famous and TLC who I suspect is paying the tuition.

Regarding sponsors for the TLC show: clearly they could overlook the issue of child exploitation when it comes to advertising revenue, but what company now would want to sponser this supposed wholesome family show when the children have been outed with behavioural and rage issues and accused of bulleying. I suspect it will be harder for TLC to find sponsers/advertizers that would want their products now associated with the Gosselin brand.

Lastly, (and this may be an unpopular or controversial position, but I think it's worth noting) that while Kate is out of contention for mother-of-the-year award, and has been for some time, it is important to remember that regardless of the divorce and intrusive, exploitive filming, they were premature. And while Kate was able to maintain her pregnancy for 30 weeks or so, sharing a womb with five others doesn't seem like an ideal situation for any fetus. That said, premature babies and higher order multiples are at greater risk of behavioural, emotional, and learning difficulties than full-term babies. This is not to absolve Kate or TLC of their role in this mess, but the acting out behaviour could also be a consequence of being premature. Even if preemies don't present with illnesses or disabilities at birth, there is always the possibility of other issues manifesting later in the child's life. There is a reason the medical community caution against higher order multiples. I'm not suggesting AT ALL that even if one has behavioural/emotional/psychiatric/cognitive/learning struggles that their lives aren't valuable and worthwhile. They absolutely are as much as someone's without such struggles. But TLC should take note, and the public should be aware, that while a litter of infant multiples may make for great entertainment in the early years, multiple blessings can come with multiple risks and hardships. I'm sure Kate was warned of the risks higher order multiples carry for herself and the children and perhaps now she is beginning to experience the fallout from that decision. And she used to cry over Aidan needing glasses because of his prematurity! If the kids are acting out because of adverse pre/post natal conditions, poor eyesight is nothing compared to what she may have to endure in the future. Again, I'm just guessing here as we're not privy to the details surrounding the expulsion and children's medical records, but if the children's issues are related to their prematurity, perhaps television executives will think twice about exploiting and marketing multiples in their early years and the public will think twice about following such families for its entertainment. Such children deserve so much more out of their lives and childhood than to be relegated to a circus freak show act.

PA G-ma said...

About home schooling...
Doesn't the school district or the state dept. of education have to monitor the progress of those who are home schooled? Are there any mandatory tests given to measure the level of adhering to the curriculum that is grade-appropriate and in timely reporting times? I understand that there is flexibility in how each home-schooled child learns but it is not a "free-for-all", is it? There has to be accountability on the parents' part. Home-schooling should or would require an outside person (who may not be a fan) to be involved.

ICExploitation said...

Hi everybody. I have a question. Why are the kids starting full time K @ 6 years old? I was born in October, and I was just about to turn 5 when I started. (25 years ago.) My nephew is 6 and is in 1st grade at this point. Is this because they attend private school?

It was Kate's choice to delay them a year. It was under speculation that she did so, so that they would be available to film.

maynard said...

The children have lost their novelty. Kate can't make it without them. She has nothing to sell but the children. They are probably tired of all this foolishness. Can you just imagine how they feel? Kate needs to figure out a more modest life style. Poor single mom sell the kids out to support them. Give me a break. She isn't the only one in the world with eight kids. Maybe she needs to learn to manage without all her people.

fidosmommy said...

Here's the way I understand the homeschooling situation. I don't have any inside scoop, but this is still what I think:

Carla is a part-time homeschooling
teacher or teacher helper. Her FB page indicates she is quite busy with projects and activities outside the homeschool setting. She may go help twice a week, or share teaching responsibilities on a part time schedule. She might be the one who prepares lunch.

She lives in Elizabethtown, near the Gosselin's Andrews Ave. house.
While not hours away, it is still a trek to get there every day from "Ghettoville".

hayden said...

mother to multiples said...
I am fairly new to this blog, Who is Carla?
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Carla is a woman who used to help out with the tups back when the Gs still lived in E-town. I think she used to do laundry also. Carla has a daughter, Ashley, who is 19 or 20 and has been traveling recently with Kate and the kids on their many trips.


twins241, you are absolutely right about the parent's role in an expulsion. I feel expulsion is a matter of very last resort. Obviously, there had to be other issues leading up to such a serious consequence. I can only wonder if the school wanted certain interventions for the two tups in question and Kate refused. After all, this is the woman who mournfully boo-hooed to the camera about Aaden needing glasses and whined that she just wanted her perfect little kids to still all "be perfect." Really Kate, you shallow cow? Ask Betty Hayes who has a tup with severe cerebral palsy how she spends her days and how she would feel about a healthy child who only has mild nearsightedness?


I think because Kate is such an important, world famous celebrity, I don't think she ever thought in a million years the school would stand up to her. It could be wishful thinking on my part, because no one manages to rise out of the ashes over & over again like Kate, with a fistful of dollars in her hands to boot. But I think the downfall is coming. In light of recent events, I don't see TLC seeing her as worth it anymore, now that they have a couple more (cheaper) hits under their belt and the kids are exhibiting behavioral problems. I'm sure they don't want these kids coming after them with lawsuits in 15 years. The ridiculous Halloween episode airing Thanksgiving weekend might be to fulfill her contract. The jig is up. Kate and her boobs can't even sit on the couch and lie about spending the whole day at the corn maze because we all know from a 1st person account they were only there for 20 mins. It has taken a looooooong time, but finally, mainstream media is catching on that this woman is a fraud. TLC has tried over and over again to mold and PR her to death into something she's not and also to hide her nasty, horrible behavior. At this point, as soon as they put out one fire, 5 more flare up. Her pathetic ratings and very, very low 18-34 age group target audience numbers do not warrant this aggravation.
Do the right thing TLC, put a large amount of money into a fund for therapy for these children and let them go. Enough is enough.

Shoshanna said...

What Khate needs to do, STAT, is have that pink phone surgically removed from her palm and give some positive attention (not the permanent scowls and scoldings) to those poor children who are howling
to be fed.

Then she should apologize to each and every one of them for putting her personal goal of stardom above the sanity and well being of her children (8 - count 'em - 8!!)

It may be too late to repair all the damage that's been done to their young and fragile psyches - but
at least that would be a start.

Brummygirl said...

I have another question here (I am like doubting Thomas :). If the schools give assistance and so much warning to children before suspending them, how is it they were suspended in just two months into the school year?
That would mean they were being inappropriate quite a number of times and Kate would have been called in on this matter.
Plus, no one has proved whether it was another pupil involved, or if they could have been hitting/name calling each other.
It just seems such a short time period considering they were supposed to be given warnings.
So, my question is, did this manifest itself in pre-Kindergarten and it was ignored then?

Big Wooden Spoon said...

ICExploitation said...

Hi everybody. I have a question. Why are the kids starting full time K @ 6 years old?

It was Kate's choice to delay them a year. It was under speculation that she did so, so that they would be available to film.

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Two or three of the sextuplets were not ready for kindergarten last year, remember? Kate had to keep the mitchy-matchy brand going, so all six of them were held back a year.
I'm sure it suited Katie Irene just fine anyway -- more filming means more money, right?

Jane in CA said...

As to homeschooling, someone posted that children in PA don't have to start school until age 8. So Kate could keep any or all of the younger children at home and NOT homeschool them or place them in another school until they turn 8. Of course, by then they will be even more incredibly socially and educationally stunted.

My sister homeschooled her children (in CA), and at that time, only a parent could homeschool their children, not just any Joe or Jane Schmoe. And yes, in order for the student to move to the next grade, they had to take standardized tests.

Bottom line, Kate is not going to homeschool those children. She will turn them over to the nanny, in between bouts of screaming at them about how they are an embarrassment, a chore, and a disgrace.

MaryB said...

I read somewhere that a source in Kate's camp said the situation with the kids was being way overstated and Kate was handling it privately.
This says to me that Kate does not see the expilsion as a big deal.
If she thought it was a big deal she would have to look at herself and her parenting skills and we all know she will never do that.
I do not believe for a minute that she has those kids at home while she is there during the day. She is not concerned with home schooling.
She will keep them shipping off so she does not have to deal with them.

Is it all planned? said...

If Kate does decide to home school all of them, wouldn't this give them a lot more time for filming...........

NoUse4Kate said...

Brummygirl, the way it worked at my children's elementary school was this way:

* Verbal warning
* Pull a card (big gasp on that one - my son had to pull a card for talking and came home in tears because he was so ashamed - lol)
* Pull another card, phone call to parent
* Pull another card, visit to the principal, phone call to parent, meeting
* Pull another card, CPS will be called if the school believes that there is a problem at home that is not being addressed and causing this child to act out
* Suspension

This can all happen in a week or two time period. It wouldn't take months if the child cannot control their behavior.

My kids do not attend a private school, but we do live in one of the top rated school systems in our state and they do not put up with misbehavior. Not only does disruptive behavior cost the school time and money, it costs the other children their education and most parents get real ticked off if there is a disruptive child in the classroom. I can only imagine how ticked off parents would be if they were paying thousands of dollars to send their child to a private school to find out other children were cheating their children out of a top notch education, it just isn't right.

I do not fault the kids in this, it totally falls into k8's lap because she has boasted about being the sole caretaker of the children. So sweetie, suck it up and take responsibility for this, and grow up and take care of your children.

Bozum Buddy said...

"Kate and her boobs can't even sit on the couch and lie about spending the whole day at the corn maze because we all know from a 1st person account they were only there for 20 mins."

^^^^^

If Kate's boobs could talk, what would they say? :-)

jasmine said...

I'm surprised to read that PA law doesn't require children to be schooled until age 8. I thought kindergarten was not mandatory in PA, but isn't 8 a little late to start a child's education? If Kate could receive a tuition refund for all her children, she would probably pull them all out of kindergarten and just hire another nanny.

2badsosad said...

IMO, Kate Gosselin is way to obssessed and consumed with her self promotion (ie People cover) and proving to the world that her 'breasts are all hers' to even think for one nano second that any of her eight children, individually or collectively are beginning to show signs of long term problematic behavior(s). Interesting how Kate's weekly parking lot photo ops went on 'hiatus' when the news of the tups expulsion from school hit the internet.

CarolS461 said...

Anonymous NoUse4Kate said...

What is really sad to think about is the treatment that Colin and Alexis are no doubt receiving from K8 because of this. :'(

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I am thinking the same thing.

1. She's probably really po'd about them getting kicked out of school.

2. If they are using foul language, you can guarantee that she's washing their mouths out with soap.

3. You can also pretty much take it to the bank that she's been wielding the red plastic spoon, too.

I just don't understand why somebody with some authority doesn't step in and get those kids the help they so desperately need.

I feel so sorry for those Eight Little Faces.

Jenn said...

I'm not a Kate fan. I hate that she exposes her children on TV the way she does, but I've been reading some of the posts and I live in PA, so maybe i can give some insight as to why she didn't put the kids in Kindergarten until they were 6. My son was born in Aug, close to when school starts, he won't be starting full time school until he's 6. As far as I know in PA most people start kids at 5 and 6. I don't know anyone who's waited until the child was 8. That's just in my world.

My son has been having some problems in school as well. I have been addressing the problems at home as best as we can. I hope no one blames mine or my husbands parenting skills for his behavior.

Minka's Tail said...

Please, please, get these kids in a school that can handle them. One of the expelled tups has always seemed very hyper, and supposedly didn't sleep. This could be a sign of ADHD. The other has had an obsession with stacking things and is apparently a math genius--could be a sign of Aspberger's. Or both could not be a sign of anything. Just from watching the kids on tv, though, I could see a few of them needed a date with the CST.

We are blaming Kate (understandably, as she is a rotten mother), but they may have serious issues that a hoity-toity private school doesn't have to deal with if it doesn't want to. I don't believe they were true bullies, but kids who need special education for behavioral issues that may be related to their upbringing, or may be neurological. Either way--They SHOULD NOT be homeschooled by a woman famous for folding laundry. They need a real teacher. Please, please, get them into public school with its gov't funded special ed programs or at least a special ed private school. Jon--sue for custody if you need to. Their futures are at stake.

dustilies said...

"Kate and her boobs can't even sit on the couch and lie about spending the whole day at the corn maze because we all know from a 1st person account they were only there for 20 mins."

^^^^^

'If Kate's boobs could talk, what would they say? :-)"

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Look at me! Look at me!
Puhleeeeeeeeese look? Should we get bigger?

Marie France said...

Brummygirl said...
I have another question here (I am like doubting Thomas :). If the schools give assistance and so much warning to children before suspending them, how is it they were suspended in just two months into the school year?
That would mean they were being inappropriate quite a number of times and Kate would have been called in on this matter.
Plus, no one has proved whether it was another pupil involved, or if they could have been hitting/name calling each other.
It just seems such a short time period considering they were supposed to be given warnings.
So, my question is, did this manifest itself in pre-Kindergarten and it was ignored then?
11/14/2010 10:38 AM

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If you go to the school website, you can see the Parent Handbook which outlines the process leading to the expulsion. The process is very detailed and the school involves the parents as well as the school counselors and a psychologist in severe cases (which this obviously was). I believe at least one of the tups got suspended for two weeks last spring according to an article I read online. I will try to find it and post the link. So - I am sure both tups were given "due process" and because their mother is a complete and self-absorbed idiot, their behavior contiuned when they returned to school in the fall, resulting in an expulsion. As I understand it, for most schools (including their's) expulsion is the end of the line and kids are not allowed to return. Also, one would think that if this trouble with the two tups has been going on all this time (including the suspension in the spring), Khate would have used the summer to try to pull the family together and get the tups on track. Obviously that did not happen for obvious reasons - those being that Khate is a mean, narcissitic woman and only sees those kids as the family breasdwinners. Education? Who needs it? That's what she is thinking, I am sure. The only thing that did concern her was that the tups "embarrassed her" by getting expelled. Isn't that just typical? It's all about HER - not the welfare and well-being of her own flesh and blood. It makes me want to hurl.

dustilies said...

Minka's Tail, very wise post.

My younger daughter needed speech therapy in K & 1, and she loved it. Got to work in a small group of 2-3 with the staff speech therapist least three days a week. In public school, the assessment and the services are pretty seamlessly integrated into the school day.

My niece, on the other hand, goes to a very exclusive private school. My SIL took her to a private therapist once a week after school, who gave them homework to do at home. My niece hated it, mostly I think because it was such an inconvenient, expensive big deal, and she felt ashamed.

Marie France said...

chocolatebee said...
I can guarentee you Kate is not homeschooling Alexis and Colin herself.
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That is certain, IMO. She can barely stand to be around them and has outsourced her maternal duties to an ever-changing brigade ofnannies (i.e. young, untrained college age girls who have not a clue how to raise children). Kate would never do such a thing. PA can send a homeschool teacher to the house, but then that would be an outsider coming in and seeing how things really are. My prediction: she gets her friend, Carla (Ashley's mother) to homeschool them. That's what Carla does. Carla has a number of other kids she homeschools at her house and I can see Khate having someone drive them to carla's - a 52 mile trip one way. In her mind, that's a good thing as the two "troublesome" tups will be out of her hair and Carla and Ashley are already in her circle will not breathe a word.

Mum's The Word said...

Carla and Ashley are already in her circle will not breathe a word.

$$$$$$$$$$$

I may be wrong, but isn't Carla the one who publicized her daughter's trip to Alaska, how she had to come home for something, and then fly all the way back? Didn't Carla just write on her page that she got two new kids? I'm not sure about her "not breathing a word."

wildflowers said...

chocolatebee said...
I can guarentee you Kate is not homeschooling Alexis and Colin herself.

Kate wouldnt even ALLOW or failed to have the PATIENCE to ALLOW her toddler/ pre pre school age tups to play with or educate them on the use of crayons, washable markers, child safe scissors, etc... I highly doubt Kate is of the energy, ability or patience to home school ANY of her eight children!! It simply is not part of her parental intellect.

Brummygirl said...

@ Marie France:
That would be if I knew which school they went to. I thought people were not supposed to know.
Thank you for clearing that up anyway, it was what I was thinking.

Captain of the Titanic said...

Okay, so maybe I'm seeing things, but has the infamous family photo from Alaska (where one of the twins is obviously upset and some of the other kids look like they have forced smiles) been Photoshopped?

One of the feet of the girl directly in front of Kate isn't visible but if it is behind a rock, that rock is semi-transparent.

Then directly behind her is a purple thing that isn't part of her clothing, though it could be the arm of the twin. However, if the twin (I'm not mentioning names) is that upset, why would her arm be in that position?

And for the life of me, I can't see any shoes or boots on that twin or even her other leg for that matter.

And two of the tups have the exact same spot on their pant legs?

Just asking for an opinion. No big conspiracy theory or anything. Just want confirmation that my eyes do not deceive me.

http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/kate-gosselin/photo/kate-gosselin-1387

Brummygirl said...

Minka's Tail said:
They SHOULD NOT be homeschooled by a woman famous for folding laundry.
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Well Minka, that made me laugh!!! :)

Jane in CA said...

Minka's Tail - excellent point about a private school not having all the same access to resources as public schools when it comes to dealing with students who have special needs. I don't hold out much hope, but it would be wonderful if those children could get access to some useful resources to help them in school and with their emotional issues as well.

Geri said...

@Captain of the Titanic

Your eyes are not deceiving you...I noticed the same oddities about that photograph. And it looks like Kate's hand is on Maddy's back, possibly giving her a "love pinch". The child does seem to be wincing in pain.

JMO

dustilies said...

Titanic--

I agree--something seems off about that photo.

--the purple swatch behind the girl in the center is the same color as Mady's pullover, but I don't think her arm would be long enough for that to be a hand on her sister's shoulder.

--Mady appears very short (others remarked on this)--way smaller than Cara, and the boy in front of her seems too close in height.

--I can't see Mady's feet either, and it doesn't look like she is standing in a little gully or pothole.

--Kate's left leg (which would be in the possibly photoshopped area, is also missing.

Just what I observe, as you say.

faline said...

Titanic-- I also saw the same things.
I think Mady was photo shopped from an even worse photo (if you can believe that)than the one they photo shopped. From the look of the misplaced arm of Mady I think she originally was pushing Kate away. Hence the awkward arm of Mady, Kate's lost leg, and the no feet position of Mady. Sad. Only my opinion!

Anonymous said...

Titanic, good eyes! Yes indeed, on close inspection that picture looks all kinds of bizarre. The photo begs this question: Why, oh, why did TLC keep the sobbing twin in the picture? Why was a better pose not photoshopped in?

fidosmommy said...

Re: possibly photoshopped photo:

I agree it's an odd picture.

Hannah seems to have one very big foot that is on the wrong leg.

I think the purple swatch behind Mady is Mady's pullover sleeve. It looks to me like she's trying to push Kate away while Kate is trying to pull her closer into the "happy family photo".

JMO

little birdie said...

I cannot vouch for the source or whether it's true or not, but someone named 'I Know' posted on INF that Ellen broke up with Jon and that a boy tup went to the ER last night for vomiting and dehydration. This poster also said "it's grim in that house". Wonder if the tup ate a recycled sandwich?

Tizzie said...

http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/kate-gosselin/kate-gosselin-gearing-home-schooling-duties-437999

"Possibly readying for her newly-acquired teaching duties, Miss Gosselin will be home-schooling two of her kiddies after they were reportedly expelled from school for bullying fellow classmates."
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What????

Lillie Mae Acres said...

This has NOTHING to do w/ any other discussion. As a mom, I truly enjoy it when people say my son favors me.
I know her kids are dark skinned & have dk brown/brown hair because of Jon. They are beautiful children, so wouldn't Kate want to at least darken her hair a little? It looks so fake, stringy, and bleached out. I think it's naturally brown so even that would look better on her and give her some resemblance to her children.

fake said...

OMG!!!!
Leah is missing a foot!!!!

Hannah's foot is too large.

Some said the pink behind Leah is Maddy's arm pushing Kate away. I think it is at a funny angle and her arm is not that long.

Kate's left arm looks photoshopped-its at a strange angle and no fingers show on Maddy's shoulder or neck.
Her left leg is missing. I think Maddy was originally standing next to Kate,look at the area just above her elbow up to her shoulder, you can tell something round like a head was removed.

pinkdiamond611 said...

In order for a child to even be EVALUATED for speech services, parental permission must be received. Also, to receive counseling services at school, it needs to be mandated. In order for it to be mandated, a formal IEP must be made. Teachers that work for the state that visit homes are most likely sent there because the child is unable to attend regular public school.(Imagine the cost if the state sent a teacher to the homes of every family who requests it?) The states allow homeschooling because that is one less kid they need to worry about. The G's are healthy, and their problems can easily be addressed if they are properly evaluated and given the necessary supports. Having Carla, a very nice lady, I'm sure, but with no formal teacher training, never mind, special training for children with special needs, homeschool them, seems neglectful to me.

C said...

Lillie Mae Acres said...
"As a mom, I truly enjoy it when people say my son favors me.
...They are beautiful children, so wouldn't Kate want to at least darken her hair a little? It looks so fake, stringy, and bleached out. I think it's naturally brown so even that would look better on her and give her some resemblance to her children."

Many women who love and take pride in their children might probably feel the same way; I've even met mothers of adopted children who strain to see some sort of resemblance between themselves and their non-biological kids. It's also worth noting that little kids usually go through a phase where they are fascinated by families and family resemblance, so having mommy's nose and daddy's hair is really cool.

Unfortunately, we're talking about Kate, she who created her image by emulating the butt-crack of Hollywood. Thus, the stringy blonde extensions, the fake bake, the nails, and the overwrought wardrobe.

Leigh Ann said...

"Minka's Tail - excellent point about a private school not having all the same access to resources as public schools when it comes to dealing with students who have special needs. "

It depends on the special needs. For things like speech, occupational and physical therapy, the states has to provide it to children regardless of where they go to school. The therapists will go to private schools or homes to provide therapy. For children under four they sometimes provide services at the schools and transport them there (I know someone whose baby traveled to school by ambulance) or will go to the child's home (had a friend with that set-up) or daycare. Then once they're in school services continue there or at home for homeschoolers. For just counseling services, you may be on your own. But the school district could send a speech therapist to the private school. And they may be. If it's a big school there's probably other kids that need it, too.

liar teaches lying said...

Just saw the Alaska episode on YT. Those kids are now as annoying and ridiculous during the couch interviews as their mom. And I found it interesting that Alexis lied to the camera, just like mom. But unlike Kate, the interviewer pointed out her lie on camera, thereby embarrassing the kid. (She denied kissing the dogs. The interviewer said that they have proof on film that she did kiss the dogs). I could care less whether or not she kissed the dogs. I am concerned that Kate has taught those kids by example that it's fine to lie. I found it hypocritical and mean that she was called out on her lie on camera when Kate gets a free pass all the time. The kid clearly wasn't expecting it and made a weird face after she was busted. If TLC would just once bust Kate for her nonstop lying then I wouldn't have had such a problem with it. With Kate as her mom, could this kid possibly know that lying is wrong and that usually people will say something to you when you lie blatantly like that?

Hippie Chick said...

little birdie said...
I cannot vouch for the source or whether it's true or not, but someone named 'I Know' posted on INF that Ellen broke up with Jon and that a boy tup went to the ER last night for vomiting and dehydration. This poster also said "it's grim in that house". Wonder if the tup ate a recycled sandwich?
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I do not know about the little boy going to the ER, but I went to Ellen's twitter page & there is still a photo of her & Jon, no mention of a split...Hmmm? I wonder. Seems like ROL would be all over this one. I guess we'll have to see. I sure hope not. The kids really like Ellen, they have stability w/ Ellen & Jon. And I really hope that boy didn't have to go to the ER, they have been through enough. Poor kids.

I saw it coming said...

If WE all knew it was going to come to this, how in the heck did Kkhate not know? I think ill refer to her a 'the ostrich'...As Dr. Phil says, you can't fix what you won't acknowledge.

so sick of her said...

If reports of the one kid going to the ER are true? Maybe Kate has a little: Munchausen by Proxy. You know feed the kids as little food as possible, to stun their growth, so they look little, reports of giving them rotten, stale, un-edible food, to make them sick & act out, so she gets everybody to feel sorry for her, and make headlines/attention? Her callus attitude towards her children at every turn. Always up staging her kids. Just makes you really wonder, what really happen to Kate as a kid, growing up to want to harm you own children? I can't imagine what those kids are going through now, that the show has tanked and 2 of them are in trouble. Mommie Dearest to the extreme.

Captain of the Titanic said...

Thanks to everyone who replied to my msg regarding the photoshopping. At least now I know I wasn't just seeing things that weren't there.

It seemed like such an odd photo to have to alter like that. Makes you wonder what it looked like originally that they tinkered with it.

pigletto said...

Thanks to everyone for clearing up the mystery of why the youngest kids were starting full time K late. I'm new to posting here; but have been reading for some time. I was, like so many others, intrigued by this family at the beginning. All I can say now is Yee gads. The antics of these two parental units is insane. Or should I say sperm/egg donors? I have 3 Guinea Pigs and they receive more love and care than the 8 bundles of cash...

Virginia Pen Mom said...

I was also really concerned about the Inf Daily comment (about one child going to the ER and Jon and Ellen breaking up). Good news--WernyGal says she has it on good authority both stories are false. It's such a relief to hear that.

Miranda said...

liar teaches lying said...

...And I found it interesting that Alexis lied to the camera, just like mom. But unlike Kate, the interviewer pointed out her lie on camera, thereby embarrassing the kid. (She denied kissing the dogs. The interviewer said that they have proof on film that she did kiss the dogs). I could care less whether or not she kissed the dogs. I am concerned that Kate has taught those kids by example that it's fine to lie. I found it hypocritical and mean that she was called out on her lie on camera when Kate gets a free pass all the time. The kid clearly wasn't expecting it and made a weird face after she was busted...

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I also thought it was very cruel to expose Alexis's lie on camera (but, what else is new -- we all know Kate and TLC jump at any chance to sell the kids' privacy and dignity regardless of how much it hurts them.) And I totally agree that it was horrific of the interviewer to pin a helpless six-year-old to the wall when TCL always lets Kate slide on her lies.

But I had a different take on the motivation behind Alexis's lie. I didn't see it as an evil Kate thing, but more like a typical little kid's denial of something embarrassing -- "No, I'm NOT in love with the boy who sits next to me!"..No, I WASN'T posing in front of my mirror!" etc.

Obviously, children need to be taught about truth and lies and right and wrong, but humiliation only causes them to feel CONTEMPTUOUS and ANGRY!! Hello?

The Two (blorf, cute) Pompous Jerks said...

I was homeschooled when I grew up in PA -- the laws are extremely strict. Hopefully that will be a good thing, though I'm sure there's a way for her to pawn off those strict regulations to some tutor or another.

so sick of her said...

Thankyou Virginia Pen Mom for finding out. Glad, none of the kids went to the ER and Jon is still with Ellen. Course Kate is still making her kids eat the food they did not eat for lunch the next day. I would not be surprised if it really will happen soon. They should make Kate eat it. I just watched the Joy Beyher show, and she did talk about the kids being expelled, and her panel agreed that the kids are being exploited and she did nothing to stop the fighting. They also agreed that they need to get off TV and they back Jons' wanting to get kids off TV. They blame Kate, for their acting out. You go Joy!

2badsosad said...

So, the Gosselin children are experiencing behavioral problems to such a degree that two have been expelled from school and the priority agenda for Kate and the TLC lawyers is arguing their case in court to allow the continued filming of the Gosselin 8?? How very very sad.

MayDay said...

The View's promo for Monday morning's hot topics said that they would be discussing Kate's kids expelled from school. When Whoopie started to read IN TOUCH Magazine.... which you know she was going to segway into the Gosselin kids but was quickly cut off but the promotion of the new View mugs. You could tell it was an awkward moment for Whoopie and you could see she was listening to someone in her ear piece talking to her. Kate must of got to someone.....

Denise said...

Check out Joy Behar:

School expels two Gosselin kids
Posted: 07:30 PM ET

A Pennsylvania private school expels two of Kate and Jon Gosselin's kids. Do you think the pressure of the spotlight could be causing these children to act out? Please feel free to comment below.

http://joybehar.blogs.cnn.com/

capslock said...

Interesting thought: Kate NEVER misses an opportunity to be on TV talking about her problems. She won't even give a comment regarding the expulsion. Probably because she KNOWS that the interviewers will FINALLY be criticizing her parenting and not coddle her and build her up to be a "Woe Is Me" single Mom.

Tami said...

I don't see what Alexis did with the denial about kissing a dog as a serious lie. Most kids that age will deny things--that they have a crush on someone, etc. It's not like every child that does this grows into a serious liar. Most learn eventually the difference between the truth and an untruth. Plus, the couch interview could be done months later. Maybe a little child does not remember some little detail like that and was surprised about it. I know my 5 year old can be very fuzzy on the truth sometimes because her memory is just not there yet.

SpoiledMom said...

How sad to have learned of the expulsion of 2 of the Gosselin 8. However, when I heard they were being 'homeschooled', my heart sank. I couldn't help but relive the comments and discussions that have been posted here on GWOP regarding Kate homeschooling the kids. On 'other' sites, I am amazed at the comments such as: "kids are expelled daily"; "stop blaming Kate"; "kids are bullied everyday", it is as if the commenter are saying "big deal, it happens every day."

I wonder if these posters have a minuscule of knowledge pertaining to the SEVERITY of bullying in and outside our schools today? Bullying is a situation that should NOT be occurring 'daily'.
Furthermore, to say "kids are being expelled daily" is not a statement to be used lightly nor one that should defend the Gosselin children. Kids being expelled should NOT be occurring daily.
Whether the parents are Jon and Kate Gosselin or Jane and Jon Smith, children who bully should be expelled. My children's' schools have incorporated zero tolerance against bullying and bullies.
"Parenting" begins at home.
As for the Gosselin kids, it is a sad situation. Most have seen this day coming. Hopefully, the courts will get these children off TV for good.
It is amazing to me how companies such as Discovery Channel and TLC can stand by and allow the continual demise of families so they can make the almighty dollar. Wait, Kate learned "something" quickly didn't she? Those TLC exec's are sneaky...

Why anyone can say it is NOT Kate's 'fault' is blinded by Kate's self-proclaimed 'celebrity'.

During "Jon and Kate plus 8" early days, Kate is a prime example of bullying and "playground behavior". Children learn what they live and see.

Educators 'teach' and are to provide our children with knowledge and an education. Most teachers work diligently to grant our children the education required to prepare them for their future. Most of these teachers are well underpaid and invest many hours in lives of our children. Educators do not, nor should they, pick up where slacker parents leave off.

Along with teaching, most teachers are honored to be a mentor and a leader. This however, is a huge difference than being the sole provider of guidance in a child's life. It would be literally impossible for a teacher to "parent" and "guide" each child he or she has in each classroom.

Parents 'parent'--plain and simple. Child rearing and life skills should be taught at home. Children need parental supervision and direction. Without it, they are lost.

Apologies in advance for the lengthy comment. This topic has struck me close to heart as you can see. Thank you for the opportunity.

lukebandit... said...

Sport Mom, great post. Everyone great posts. I just looked at the picture of kate and the kids at the creek picture in Alaska. Photoshopped! Photoshopped! Photoshopped! What is wrong with tlc photoshopping the kids? Everything! Like someone said before, What did it look like before Photoshopping?

About Eric Roberts. He was on Celebrity Rehab, and now he is doing great! Eric now is playing an attorney for Victoria and Abby who got a court order to turn over Victor's business records over to them, on the Young and the Restless.

I was just wondering, how did he know all the information, because his interview was very strong and on fire.

Also, why would kate stand on her 2 feet with stileto's and use the copy machine for 2 hours? If Alexis and Collin were at home, that is 2 hours that she could of been at home talking to her kids. She probably took off her stilletos and just was barefoot walking from Xerox machine to Xerox machine.

Why doesn't she have a copy machine at home? oh, so chris gets her picture and she gets paid.

Retch!

liar teaches lying. said...

I have to admit that I agree with posters who disagreed with me! I take it back. I also do not think alexis' fib was anything out of the ordinary for kids that age and was more of a denial of something she felt was embarrassing. (btw, I kiss my dogs all the time). I stand by my irritation with the interviewer for pointing out the fib on camera and not editing it out, even tho he did so in a non-threatening, teasing fashion. I just felt sorry for her. She looked surprised and embarassed by the 'confrontation'.

And of course, Kate's constant lying cannot in any way me setting a good example for those kids.

Go Jon said...

2badsosad said...

So, the Gosselin children are experiencing behavioral problems to such a degree that two have been expelled from school and the priority agenda for Kate and the TLC lawyers is arguing their case in court to allow the continued filming of the Gosselin 8?? How very very sad.

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I thought that issue was solved a few weeks back when Jon tweeted that the judge did not grant his request that the children stop being filmed.

I believe the next court date, Nov. 30, is a custody hearing.

HW said...

On The View today they mentioned AGAIN the Gosselin Expulsion as one of the upcoming hot topics. The announcer said something like "should they be expelled from reality tv as well...?" As far as I know, though, they did not discuss it. Did I miss something?

Could The View be using this teaser as a way to keep viewers tuned in for the hour, knowing full well the topic won't be discussed?

Child Advocate by Trade said...

If there is a Hearing for Custody on 11/30/10 then why doesn't Jon get a job? He has to have a job to have a "leg" to stand on when asking for custody.

I feel so bad for these children as I feel that neither parents are putting aside their extreme hatred for each other and concentrating on these children.

Perhaps the State should step in and assign an independent rep to control how the parenting is conducted.

Kate with tights, short blouse and high heels? Is there something wrong with her mentally? Exhibition
tendencies? Some type of mental disorder, I assume for a grown woman who has had 8 children to walk the streets in her underwear. What a skank and what an example to her daughters.

Too much information!

Alice Bluegown said...

Here is a 6.5 minute video concerning the expelling of the kids, reality TV, J&K's parenting. Also, under the video are many topics about the Gosselins. Good stuff! Most of it is accurate and current. The video is to the left of the Sarah Palin/Kate story.

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/entertainment/111510-sarah-palin-slams-gosselin-in-ratings

Alice Bluegown said...

Piss-poor parenting and reality TV is being blamed for the kids being expelled. This is on AJ Hammer's Showbiz on CNN. Excellent Video.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2010/11/15/exp.sbt.kate.gosselin.expelled.cnn

Child Advocate by Trade said...

If Kate has mental issues that are being ignored then Jon should act at once, if he fears for his children's mental health.

This whole situation has to be affecting the other 6 children as it is embarrassing to Kate? These 2 children have definitely put at Chink in the Armor, which makes any other TV ventures, at this time, at a stand still, which must be very frustrating to someone who is a Control Freak.

So the father of the children should step in at this point and insure that he is there, in the house, so that those children are not harmed. This woman's behavior is frightening to me. Does anyone even know her truly personality other than her husband and children?

Why are those children kept away from all family, neighbors, concerned persons in that house? Are the other 6 children attending school?

Is anyone watching this woman in the house with these 8 children?
For someone who is a Control oriented person to be embarrassed about her True Identity of being Only a Mom first, well this is a real event in her mind.

sick of her said...

There was something some months ago that Jon was doing some kind of online, web stuff. But remember cause of the contract Jon signed, any work he wants to do has to go through TLC. I seriously think Jon got tricked/railroaded into signing that contract. He is caught between a rock & a hard place. Kate is holding all the cards now. Unfortunately she is not playing with a full deck. Her house of cards are fallen.

Lesleigh said...

There is SO much stuff going on right now, that it is difficult to assimilate everything.

This is JMHO, but it would be SIMPLE for Khate to confirm or deny the expulsion of two of the six, by simply saying so. Although, I find it really telling when the statement comes out that "they are handing the issue and are requesting privacy". I would have a modicum of respect for Kate (or maybe just a smidge), if she would acknowledge there is a problem.

BTW, I was lurking at BM's site. They have now nominated themselves as the "most intelligent women on the Internet." Too bad they haven't mastered the use of grammar or even spell check!

bbeau said...

Child Advocate by Trade said...
If Kate has mental issues that are being ignored then Jon should act at once, if he fears for his children's mental health.

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I fear for those kids as well. I use to think that Kate had very bad parenting skills, but I never really thought their well being was in danger, but I'm beginning to think differently now. The main thing that concerns me and sends out a red flag, is the kids isolation. Don't they say abusers, whether it be spousal or parental abuse, isolate their victims. These kids are very isolated from family, friends and for some now, even the school environment and soon TLC (even though they seem to turn a blind eye to everything, by law they do have an obligation to report abuse). Only the nannies have a day to day hands on view of what really is happening in the home, and they are bound by a confidentiality agreement. Although they have a duty by law to report abuse to authorities, they may be reluctant to do so because they do not want to jeopardize their paycheck.

Its becoming a scary situation IMO. I never felt this way before until the recent events.

Jo said...

It's often been said that Jon should get a job. I think he should be a full-time dad. Get full custody, stay home and raise the kids. Let Kate support him and the kids through child support. Surely child support for 8 kids would be enough to live modestly without a job.

Sure, the kids are in school (well, most of them...), but many moms remain SAHM after their kids go to school. The kids still need breakfast and a ride to school. The house still needs cleaning, the laundry done, and groceries need to be bought. Kids need to be picked up from school, taken to activities, and in this case - lots and lots of therapy. There's homework to do, supper to fix, lunches to prepare and time needed to play and laugh. This IS a full time job.

Rather than pay nannies, Kate could just pay Jon. It makes so much more sense. She can get them weekends or whatever schedule works and she can continue to traipse around the country doing god knows what.

If I were Jon, I'd file for custody, declare myself a SAHD for the sake of the kids and provide a home, a real home, for those kids.

NoUse4Kate said...

Great videos Alice, thanks for posting the links. :)

Go Jon said...

Child Advocate by Trade said...

If Kate has mental issues that are being ignored then Jon should act at once, if he fears for his children's mental health.


But what, exactly, can he do? I don't even think he can get through the security gate to get into the house. He has to ring and someone comes out to deliver and pick up the kids. I'd be scared to death to call Child Protective Services for fear they'd swoop in, remove the kids and dole them out to foster parents until the whole custody issue was revisited.

Child Advocate by Trade said...

Immediate court ordered therapy is what can be done. If a guardian ad litem is assigned to this case, then the entire family is counseled, individually and together. The children would not be put into Foster Homes at this point. Proof of the parent(s) mental ability to do what is best for the children is the first consideration.

We do not know if Jon is more mentally balanced than Kate is, do we? After all, a father who leaves for months, as he did, now has no job and lives with a paramour (live in partner) of a few months is not exactly stability to a Judge.

So much is involved, children being interviewed individually first, to determine if their Home is dangerous to their well being.

Perhaps this family needs, as I said, total counseling which would be individual and family counseling.

The children have been through turmoil with reality television compounded continually by being torn from family, relatives and now the divorce. This is all within 5 years of life.

Yet, we have to question why the father is not allowed in the Residence and picks up the children at the gate. What was happened to stop the father being allowed in the residence? A lot of questions that the children know the answers to.

A lot of well known personalities have said after meeting Kate "that she is a Mom first" but what exactly does the term Mom mean to Kate? Gate Keeper? As no one is admitted except the TLC crew.

Granny Silver said...

NoUse4Kate said...
Great videos Alice, thanks for posting the links. :)

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Yes, I agree...thanks for posting the links! It is so frustrating to me to read about a great video or write up and not know where to find them.

Sport said...

"If I were Jon, I'd file for custody, declare myself a SAHD for the sake of the kids and provide a home, a real home, for those kids."

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Great post Jo, not only does it make total sense but it is very rewarding for the father AND the kids.

My wife and I split last year after 15 years together and this is exactly what we do. I mean, I still have a job i just shifted to working at home fulltime and being with the kids. We split time when possible but I am trying to help my ex finish Nursing School and take the kids much more than 50% so she can sleep/study/attend class and train at the hospital.

Is it really rocket science?

I make video games for a living but i tell you playing with my kids and being the 'soccer dad' is 1000x more fun and exciting (even though work is pretty cool, too.)

WonderButton said...

It's not just the parents - it's also TLC. Why doesn't some lawyer step in to sue TLC on behalf of the kids for emotional abuse or something along those lines - child endagerment or corruption of minors?

I follow the whole "Teen Mom" fiasco over at MTV, too. Noted that one of the moms is being investigated by CPS for abusing her boyfriend in front of her baby. In that case, the camera crew may also face criminal charges because they did not inform the state of the abuse. Can't remember what state they are in, but it's not PA.

lmac said...

I have read this sporadically. I want my time with this fake family back. They were endearing for a little while. Now, all these years later I scratch my head about Kate. There is not one interesting thing about her. She has no point of view that I care about. She seems unread, unskilled, uncurious, ungrateful, unhelpful, unschooled. Really, what does anything that she does inspire or uplift, or enlighten or make anyone feel sympathetic toward? I have zero respect for her mothering skills, cooking, multi-tasking, professional background. Honestly, I have not witnessed anyone on "reality" television who has the most to say and the least to inspire. Even the Christian/church angle seemed manufactured from the get go. Bible sayings taped all over her house? The family contract (when the kids were in diapers), "we'll always be together" - that was a red flag from the moment she uttered those words, the complete absence of cousins, grandparents, etc. when the entire country was "fascinated" by the sextuplets. Then, like that, the bawdy behavior, 180 turn around of the parents to partying, show hosting, travelling, leaving the kids behind constantly. Please, just stop being in the media. I have not one shred of respect for anything you have done. You have ruined your family. And Jon...for goodness sake. Be a man and take your kids lives back. Grow up. Oh, and the smoking is most charming. Really. To TLC - your shows are trash. I rank your programming along the lines of Jerry Springer, Maury P. and the Jersey Shore. Go away please.

Teryn said...

This is a classic stupid sheeple comment from the latest US Magazine story about Kate making the kids eat stale food:

"Sara R. Says....
Who cares if she makes them eat week old sandwiches? It's not like she's not feeding them...it's a week old sandwich. Not a month or something...jesus christ people."


I'd like to see Sara R. eat a week old sandwich and like it. Is she for real? Seriously, are people like her really that ignorant?

One of my worst childhood memories is being MADE to eat food I didn't like. I was forced to sit at the table for hours and hours and hours, most times falling asleep at the table, until I ate it. I never ate it, and spent a lot of my childhood sitting at a table because I wasn't allowed to get up. To this day I greatly resent my mother for that. I find it to be a form of abuse and a power trip for the parent.

When I had my own child, that abusive food control cycle was nipped in the bud! She was never forced to eat anything, especially stuff she didn't like. And she turned out just fine. She's one of those people who eat to live, instead of living to eat.

Kate and her stupid sheeple are about as pathetic as you can get.

Miranda said...

Teryn said...
This is a classic stupid sheeple comment from the latest US Magazine story about Kate making the kids eat stale food:

"Sara R. Says....
Who cares if she makes them eat week old sandwiches? It's not like she's not feeding them...it's a week old sandwich. Not a month or something...jesus christ people."

I'd like to see Sara R. eat a week old sandwich and like it. Is she for real? Seriously, are people like her really that ignorant?
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Sometimes I wonder if commentors like Sara R. are just playing the sheeples for the deranged dimwits they are; some of these comments are just too laughable to be genuine. It's not like it would be hard to convince them that you're one of them.

Dee said...

Child Advocate by Trade said...

He has to have a job to have a "leg" to stand on when asking for custody.

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Why? The whole family is under contract to TLC. The mother doesn't have any more of a "job" than he does. The show wouldn't exist without the real earners - the children.

A jobless parent who stays at home is in a better position to parent than one who spends all of her time anywhere but with the children, or who disappears for weeks at a time on another coast or in, say, Mexico, a continent away from the children for whom she supposedly has custodial responsibilities.

Having a job doesn't necessarily have anything to do with parental fitness.

dustilies said...

Sport said:

. . . but I am trying to help my ex finish Nursing School and take the kids much more than 50% so she can sleep/study/attend class and train at the hospital.
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Sport, I think you should change your screen name to Mensch.

You are doing a great thing for your daughter, as well as for your ex, because you are helping her mom be a role model of achievement and persistence.

Brummygirl said...

Here I go again with questions!!
Everyone is saying give the kids to Jon full time.
Do we even know that Jon would want them full time? At the last custody agreement he was quite happy to leave them with Kate. I think his issue is with the filming.
If he can only afford an apartment at the moment, how would he house those children full time. I do not know, nor does anyone else, the sleeping arrangements when they spend the weekend, but it must be crowded and with two girls on the teenage threshold, it would seem it would get worse.
No, I am not advocating for Kate to keep the children because of that, far from it, but I cannot see how Jon could swing having the children at the present time.
The children certainly drew the short straw regarding parents.
In spite of Jon's *renewed* good character and his obvious love for the children, I still do not give either of them a pass as good parents. They were in this together at the beginning and greed took over.
JMO

Child Advocate by Trade said...

Dee said...
Child Advocate by Trade said...

He has to have a job to have a "leg" to stand on when asking for custody.

Why? The whole family is under contract to TLC. The mother doesn't have any more of a "job" than he does.

We really do not know anything that is in the contracts. Everything has been speculation.

The Judge looks at stability and that means a parent who has been in one location, not been with so many different sexual relationships (which the children may deeply resent, we don't know that yet as we can be sure the twins are aware of what is happening since Dad left home, but the tups may not understand that portion)

Court ordered evaluations of both parents, each child and in depth
research into the family dynamics are what is needed to determine the Judge's decision. Always in the best interest of the children, always.

You all may be surprised at what children say when questioned individually. The truth comes out. Adults lie, children of that age rarely do as they are not thinking about access to $$$.It can be a long process also, as some parents make their chidren feel very guilty for saying anything negative about them. Sure some of you know that feeling.

If TLC has that complete family under contract and a Judge feels that the children need "help" and the parents need "lots of help" he can order a suspension of all filming and any involvement by TLC. The Judge can rule in the family's best interest.

Since they are children, except for the parents, we will not know what is happening but we will see results.

Yes, Kate and Jon will be taking parenting classes for a very long time if they want to stay in their children's lives and not be visitors.

What I was trying to say is that Jon's stability is very questionable also, just as much as Kate's behavior.

We can only hope that the Judge during the 11/30/2010 Custody Hearing asks for complete psychiatric evaluations before he/she rules.

I wanted to write on this site for quite a while. When I saw Kate's attire on Sun at Fed Ex or Kinkos with tights, no long tunic on and those heels. Well it smacks of Exhibitionism to an extreme degree.

Tami said...

Now TMZ is posting all about Willow Palin's facebook page just because she appeared on her mom's reality tv show. I saw it linked to my homepage and read the article. I am thinking that when the day comes that Mady and Cara get on facebook, which most kids eventually do, even as tweens, it's going to be crazy for those poor girls. They may try to lash out and say things like the Palin girls, but no matter what they post, some news article will be written about it somewhere if they are even talked about by then.

Tami said...

when asking for custody.

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Why? The whole family is under contract to TLC. The mother doesn't have any more of a "job" than he does. The show wouldn't exist without the real earners - the children.

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I agree and am sick of seeing people everywhere say 'Jon needs a job and to stop living off Kate. She has a career and works so hard..' Ha! Living off your kids is not a career! She does not work. Period. Jon does not work either, but he should not be held any more accountable than Kate. Both equally share in where they are today. Both need to get out and figure out where they go from here! I do wish Jon would find something just to prevent Kate from being able to constantly say she is the breadwinner!

Sport said...

"You are doing a great thing for your daughter, as well as for your ex, because you are helping her mom be a role model of achievement and persistence."

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Ya know, you put the kids first and its amazing how many decisions are made all by themselves. My kids have a great, caring mother and I would be a fool to ruin that relationship. We will always be parents together - no need to make it adversarial, nobody wins. I want my kids to adore their mother and spend as much time as they can with her (dont get me wrong I also want them with me 100% of the time!)

And I appreciate the nickname, but my buddies already have plenty of 4 letter names they call me...

I follow kHate online with a strange fascination because I honestly have never know anyone to be so damn selfish before, especially someone with kids. It's this incredible train wreck you cant stop, and can only watch in horror. I would never watch her show or anything on TLC but thanks to this and a few other blogs I am able to keep up with SuperMom.

Can't See Sheep said...

Jo, I couldn't agree more, Jon should be the one at home looking after the kids. Yes some will say that he didn't like doing it the first time around, but looking after the kids was not so much the problem, he had a problem with feeling unappreciated & a wife that didn't call who he suspected of having an afair with the bodyguard she insisted she had to travel everywhere with & refused to hire a new one to aleviate her husband's concerns. Those things aside I think he would be fine, he's also the type to make use of his time while the kids are at school, he does seem to enjoy volunteering.

I also suspect he'd pack the kids lunches, give them a ride to school & tuck them in at night. We all know he saw to their bathing & everything else when he came home from work. These things never seemed difficult for Jon, he just knuckled down & did them, unlike kate who whined, had tantrums & shifted her responsibility to anyone within shrieking distance. Yes, he didn't have much of a choice but I believe he would look after his children if he had custody of them. I say let the shrew pay child support & the kids can be with the parent that actually looks after them without a host of nannies. And Jon actually takes them places to do activities, without an entourage & doesn't care if they get dirty.

I understand your question Brummygirl, but they are Jon's children & had there not been a divorce he would be with them a great deal of the time. They're his kids & he needs to look after them because clearly kate is not a good person for this. IMO she should not be looking after dead goldfish, nevermind children. Surely even Jon must see at this point that the shrew will cause the kids more harm than good, they already have a number of years of therapy ahead. He is their father & it is his lot in life to take care of his own children. That said, I do agree with you, the G8 did draw the short straw regarding parents.

C said...

I just popped over to BM's site, just to see what the other side has to say.

Um, wow. It's like an alternate universe, where up is down, black is white, and Kate is an awesome mom and exemplary human being. I got a good giggle out of BM's site--and I think that "BM" is a great nickname for the site owner, if you follow me.

My favorite part, though was the recipes "developed by Kate Gosselin." Did you know that Kate Gosselin--yes, THE Kate Gosselin--invented peanut butter and banana sandwiches? I'm also glad to know to whom I'm indebted for "developing" the time-honored tradition of closing the sandwich THEN cutting it--into triangles, no less. Triangles! Who would have thought of cutting a sandwich into triangles? That woman is pure genius, I tell you.

so sick of her said...

Did you guys know that BM and the whole lot over there belong to the Cult of Kate. Making the kids eat stale/week old food is abuse. I don't even let my dogs eat expired food, let alone myself. I also looked ahead to the 28th and they have nothing there for the 9pm central time slot, yet. Kate is hiding and worried about the court date. Her , show off adventure to the copy shop, was to make copies of records for court. That crap of making stuff for Homeschooling is just to throw everyone off. Hopefully, Jon has enough, ammo to, to take Kate down several pegs. And get more visitation, and control and get them off Tv and get them help.

Brummygirl said...

So Sick of Her said:

Making the kids eat stale/week old food is abuse
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It is a form of abuse, it is all about control. It doesn't really matter to Kate about having to pack more sandwiches, as the nannies/chef obviously do it and heavens knows she is not short of money, it is the control.
By not eating the sandwiches, they have disobeyed her and questioned her authority.
The sheeple can bleat all they like about her being the perfect mother. B.M. has said that she herself is now is the #1 mother and has bought clothes like Kate and actually wanted to buy Kate's house. She has said this a couple of times. So, I just consider the source, one nutball supporting another.

Still Disgusted in TX said...

Kate homeschool??? when hell freezes over! that woman can't even be bothered to teach them to tie their shoe laces, hence the velcro. Those kids future looks bleaker and bleaker every day. And if you are reading this Kate--"bleaker" is a bad thing! Get them to therapy. And while Kate needs therapy, I don't care about her.

Silver Granny said...

I am very afraid for these children. Kate demands they do as she says, and she doesn't care what she has to do get them to obey.

Using food as a way control them is torture to these little children.

Eating food that has not been refrigerated for hours or days can be dangerous.

Are there any adults in that family that will dare step in?

Probably not. The abuse may just be allowed to continue.

She doesn't enjoy her sons and daughters. She only wants to control them.

vltaylor said...

There are pics of Alexis and Colin playing (supposedly while the other kids are in school) on INF today. You can clearly see that at least one of the dogs is back.

Ohio Buckeye said...

What's the point of putting your kids in a mansion ("they deserve life on a golden tray") if you are going to make them ingest stale food?

Hippie Chick said...

LMAO C! Let me guess though, after she makes those PB & banana sandwiches, she lets them sit on the counter for a week, then packs them for the kids' lunch? Does BM do the same? UGH.

fidosmommy said...

vltaylor said...
There are pics of Alexis and Colin playing (supposedly while the other kids are in school) on INF today. You can clearly see that at least one of the dogs is back.

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I think those might be old pictures. The kids look younger.
Besides, the car they are playing with was replaced by those 3 Cadillac Escapades earlier this year. They don't look like this.

Go check on Amazon.com for the
Cadillac Escapade Power Wheel car to see the newer ones. Black with some color trim. Not multicolor. I had the link but lost it when I came to this site)

That would also explain the presence of the dog. The dogs hadn't been banished yet.

ChurchMouse said...

Wouldn't it be nice if the dog in question turned out to be a therapy dog? To help the kids to play and feel better about themselves?

What can I say, I'm trying to be an optimist, which is hard when Ms. Gosselin is concerned.

Extensions said...

Hippie Chick said...

Does BM do the same? UGH.

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Seriously, I think that is the sheeple-Kate connection. The fact that underneath it all, they really dislike their children. They feel a connection to Kate because they know she can't stand being tethered to these needy kids, and since they can't blatantly state this dislike, it comes in the form of, "Poor kaTe. How wood u b if u had 8 kids & there father didn't do nothin." They understand Kate's pains because they, too, wish to be whisked away from the drudgery of their home life. It's really sad actually. Many had kids because they thought they would get attention (as Kate has gotten), and they can't understand that children need nurturing and love as well.

C said...

I have a question for parents or educators here; in a daycare center, what is the adult-child ratio for children from birth to one years old?

I'm asking because I'm reading through some old news archives, and came across the one wherein the Gosselins were fighting to keep the state-paid nurse for the healthy one-year-old 'tups. You know, the one where Kate claimed that society owes her children whatever she wants them to have, because modern medicine allows for the creation of high-order multiples. Kate said that she can't safely manage 8 small children. I just wonder how many children a daycare worker manages at one time. Not that it would really prove much--I hope the average parent is more emotionally involved with their children than the average daycare worker. It's just an interesting point.

Jane in California said...

Extensions said:
Seriously, I think that is the sheeple-Kate connection. The fact that underneath it all, they really dislike their children
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I would agree - and take it a step further. They are like Kate in that they've always been dissatisfied with their lives and waste most of their life away wishing they were somewhere else, married to someone else, living the "glamorous" life, instead of giving simple thanks every day for the blessings they do have.

When they say "U would do the same thing!", what they really mean is "I'd do exactly the same thing if only somehow I got the chance!"

That one radio show/blogger who uses the title "Living the Dream" is a huge Kate fan and claimed to have felt giddy in her presence when she had the chance to meet her. Her dream is to live Kate's life, and that's BM's dream, and the dream of the rest of the sheeple. I imagine life with them is living on the edge of bankruptcy constantly. I feel for their long-suffering husbands and children, but at least their families have privacy in their misery, unlike the Gosselin children.

Her behavior disgusts me said...

Ohio Buckeye said...
What's the point of putting your kids in a mansion ("they deserve life on a golden tray") if you are going to make them ingest stale food?
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I just read this horror about half-eaten, leftover food being recycled in lunch bags, possibly over days. If it's true, isn't it just another form of abuse? My husband's monster mother would do this with his dinner plate and serve it up cold at breakfast. It was pointless, didn't change his likes or habits and all it did was make him feel bad about his mother as much then as now (he's 60). Belligerently feeding him stale food was just one part of her screwed-up personality...it came in many other forms to affect him...and that's what's scary for the Gosselin kids. These bits and pieces of rumors or leaked (on purpose or not) "windows" into their hellish existence most probably only gives us a small picture of what those kids' lives are truly like away from cameras and behind closed doors...which is enough to make one shudder. Childhood is supposed to be carefree, not manipulated in adverse ways by adults and certainly not in an environment of oppression. I don't even make my dogs eat food they don't finish. And I don't live in a mansion or have a job right now. I'd like to think I have a heart, though.

OC Girl said...

C said...I have a question for parents or educators here; in a daycare center, what is the adult-child ratio for children from birth to one years old?
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I worked as an interim toddler teacher at an accredited NAEYC (National Association for the Education of Young Children) back-up childcare center which was said to have one of the best low teacher-child ratios. For infants, it was 3:1 for every teacher (maximum six infants accepted). For toddlers, it was 4:1 (maximum eight toddlers accepted).

Because of our strict classroom totals, reservations were required prior to bringing your child to our center.

momof3andlovingit said...

C said...
I have a question for parents or educators here; in a daycare center, what is the adult-child ratio for children from birth to one years old?


It varies from state to state. In Wisconsin the ratio of adult to children under the age of 2 is 1:4. Then it changes as the children get older. Still, she had help...volunteers and family. Just not the help SHE wanted. Ungrateful wretch.

lukebandit... said...

I went back and looked closely at the fedex copy gate and i see the notebook that has the 3 checks on one page. wow, is she writing checks for everything that she does? then the kids won't have anything. i wonder if she is having to make copies for her CPA/Attorney to look at before the hearing.
Her outfit was beyond disgusting. It looked like to me a grey shirt that went to the top of the granny panties then the leggings. she was dressed for dance class or aerobics. And the shoes to match.

Remember when Mady said that she had so many shoes that she needed to tear out the wall and make a bigger closet.

Maybe the girls will be able to wear the clothes and shoes when they get in their early 20's.

txmom said...

For Christmas, someone PLEASE send BM a dictionary? This idiotic woman can't spell to save her life.

As for the custody hearing, the judge is going to cut right through all the bull****. Dogs gone, dogs back..if KI thinks bringing a dog back is going to make the judge soften towards her, she is dead wrong.
There will be statements from school concerning behavioral issues, KI will have to show how she is spending the child support, Jon's atty's will ask about the kids' mental and physical well-beings...KI is going to be on the hot seat, and it is about damn time!
The only way for these kids to even have a remote chance of normalcy is for Jon to gain full custody. If not, it scares me s***less to think what will happen when the cameras and the gravy train leave, and KI is left alone with all of those kids.
I do believe, that the twins will have a legal say-so in a few years as to which parent they would like to live with.

zoey said...

Kate at kinko's or where ever she was making copies is clearly a publicity stunt. Your telling me that this woman with her fleet of vehicals and brand new kitchen and designer this and designer that does NOT have a computer printer that also does photo copies or scans? come on!

Anne said...

lukebandit...Remember when Mady said that she had so many shoes that she needed to tear out the wall and make a bigger closet.

Maybe the girls will be able to wear the clothes and shoes when they get in their early 20's.
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Kate share with her kids? HA! Consignment city is where Katie will take those clothes. Or maybe she sells direct to BM and her minions. BM would probably give her more than she paid for them because they were worn by Kate the Great!

Bubbles said...

I don't know what PA laws are, but I doubt Kate would have to explain what she's spending the child support on. She may be required to prove her expenses, which is different.

In my state, you must provide proof of the following: your current income, the amount you spend on work-related daycare expenses, and the amount you pay for health/dental insurance.

In the Gosselin's case, I'm assuming Kate would also have to prove the amount of school tuition paid, but I'm not sure a judge would consider their tuition a necessary expense.

I also don't think it would be fair to require Jon to pay a portion of the child care expenses for those times when she's out of town and he could be with the kids but she won't let him.

It would be interesting to see what the PA laws are in this area. I still don't understand why Jon agreed to the mediated divorce settlement in the first place, when he apparently knew he wouldn't be allowed to work in the entertainment industry because of his TLC contract. Knowing he couldn't work in the entertainment business, how could he expect to be able to pay $20,000 a month in child support?

There's still so much Gosselin stuff that doesn't make any sense.

WonderButton said...

In PA, state-certified in-home daycare must have 1 adult for 6 babies/infants. I'm not sure of the age cutoff when it goes up to 1 adult per 12 children. I have a 6 mo old and was checking into daycare options recently.

C said...

C said...
I have a question for parents or educators here; in a daycare center, what is the adult-child ratio for children from birth to one years old?

Thanks for the answers, everyone. I'm child-free, so of course I have no idea what is a standard or reasonable adult to child ratio in a daycare situation. I was trying to get a feel for exactly how unreasonable Kate's demands for the additional nurse were.

Answer: even more absurdly unreasonable than I imagined.

C said...

Anne said...
"Or maybe she sells direct to BM and her minions. BM would probably give her more than she paid for them because they were worn by Kate the Great!"


BM and her crew of dingleberries would probably gut the family savings to own one of the sacred halter tops worn by TEH BEST-ISH MOM EVAH!!!

I like factual info! said...

Child Advocate by Trade, your posts are really good. I'm glad you decided to weigh in ("I wanted to write on this site for quite a while. When I saw Kate's attire on Sun at Fed Ex or Kinkos with tights, no long tunic on and those heels. Well it smacks of Exhibitionism to an extreme degree.") Long-time worriers over this situation with the Gosselin children (me included) are fired up over these latest (in a long series of) awful developments and we need cool heads with good information. Thanks.

LOL exasperating said...

zoey said...
Kate at kinko's or where ever she was making copies is clearly a publicity stunt. Your telling me that this woman with her fleet of vehicals and brand new kitchen and designer this and designer that does NOT have a computer printer that also does photo copies or scans? come on!
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Yeah, I know what you're saying; I laughed at that, too. It's so transparent. I had to make several copies today which would have cost me a buck per page to copy and fax at the copier store and, true, it's not cheap on the home printer/fax machine but it sure is convenient and, most of all, good for confidentiality. With all Kate's money, this is simply ridiculous. I've got a cheap system at home and I sure ain't rich. C'mon, she WANTS to be seen. She's not computer-ignorant. Don't you remember how at the E-town house they had the computer(s) in the bedroom and closet where they would answer mail on their website? Jon's a techie, for Pete's sake. He would have had all that kind of equipment set up in the orphanage-house/prison or the garage apartment in which he was heretofore relegated. If this wasn't all so tragic, it would be seriously laughable.

Leigh Ann said...

LMAO C! Let me guess though, after she makes those PB & banana sandwiches, she lets them sit on the counter for a week, then packs them for the kids' lunch? Does BM do the same? UGH.

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My mom did that once. Made five peanut butter and banana sandwiches on Sunday thinking it would save time during the week. Not only did they not last, I didn't like them anyway. And we had to have peanut butter shipped in from another country so losing any was a big deal. So much for that experiment.

Sentimental Me said...

My family is so tiny now after so many relatives have moved to other places or passed on but, when I was a kid, Thanksgiving was heavenly, with all the cousins running around, playing; the adults working with all the great food. Fondest memories. Making paper turkies at school. I hope the Gosselin children will have memories like mine. Will they get to eat on Thanksgiving...something decent, I mean?

Bubbles said...

Regarding Child Advocate by Trade's comments, I believe they are 100% correct, however my fear is that TLC will be lining the judge's pockets.

I'm not sure TLC wants to keep investing in this family, though.

I don't understand why the psych evals and guardian at litems didn't happen in the first place with such unique circumstances in this divorce.

C said...

Sentimental Me said...
Will they get to eat on Thanksgiving...something decent, I mean?

Sure! Many frozen dinner companies make turkey-and-trimmings meals. Kate probably had a minion cut out coupons so she could buy 4 TV dinners to feed her 8--count 'em, 8--children.

Seriously, I hope they're with Jon over the holiday.

WonderButton said...

Check out this article:
http://www.popeater.com/2010/11/18/teen-mom-amber-portwood/

At the very end, it says that the courts have subpoenaed MTV for UNEDITED FOOTAGE from Teen Mom. This was filmed in Indiana. Let's get on the ball, PA officials! If they can do it in Indiana, they can do it here for the TLC filming of the Mommie Dearest Remake....Oh, I meant to say J&K+8 and K+8.

Tami said...

I can't believe Jon agreed to let her have them on Thanksgiving and he will take "an alternate day". This makes it sound like it was supposed to be his day. I remember when she said she'd never have a holiday without them and it looks like it's true : ( I'll bet she had the kids beg and say they want dinner at their own table instead of his little apartment, even if that's not what they really wanted. I wonder if they will use it for filming. They didn't hesitate to ruin their Halloween by filming and faking it all, so why would this be different. Pitiful..

Anne said...

So is Thanksgiving at the Gosselin compound this year just Kate and the kids, or is TLC paying anyone to join them?

My kids are so excited to spend Thanksgiving with grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins (especially cousins). Wish the Gosselin kids could have the same experience.

Sport said...

Read the sheeple sites and the jaded perspective on the holidays is always : "Good - those kids deserve a real Turkey Dinner in a nice home not TV dinners in a small apartment"

A couple of things come to mind...

First and foremost, who says that kHate would be cooking dinner? I dont watch the show but I cant imagine that self serving freak taking the time to prepare any decent meal herself, wearing hooker heels, designer clothes with her gross witch nails.

Secondly, it's really pathetic that the sheeple are as materialistic and vapid as the vile woman hey blindly defend.

When did Thanksgiving become about material possession and the size of your house? Granted it could get crowded with 10 people in an apartment, but who cares?

One final thought. I am not sure how this would be for the kids as I dont have 8 myself, but what about at least trying splitting them up for one night, one meal or one holiday? Four at Jon's for dinner and four are stuck with kHate? It would be a more intimate setting at each household, allowing some actual interaction with the young actors. Room to speak and have conversation without shushing 7 kids when one tries to talk.

These people have an army of small kids - why not try something different once in awhile in the name of happiness? Stop using these kids as bargaining chips and slave labor and put them first.

stupidisastupiddoes said...

Interesting how these 'stories' are coming about Kate and her uncontrollable spending habits, dwindling bank account and the industry not supporting her 'brand' and/or her desperate attempt at self promotion. All the more reason for Kate to cry 'boo hoo' and claim the necessity to keep her 8 (EIGHT) little money makers actively EMPLOYED and WORKING!!

EnoughAlready:O said...

Tami said...
I can't believe Jon agreed to let her have them on Thanksgiving and he will take "an alternate day". This makes it sound like it was supposed to be his day. I remember when she said she'd never have a holiday without them and it looks like it's true : ( I'll bet she had the kids beg and say they want dinner at their own table instead of his little apartment, even if that's not what they really wanted. I wonder if they will use it for filming. They didn't hesitate to ruin their Halloween by filming and faking it all, so why would this be different. Pitiful..

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No Tami, they dont film on Holidays,they would have been told it was Thanksgiving on someother day such as was done on Christmas, Easter egg hunting and so on.

Nina said...

http://www.infdaily.com/2010/11/pics-kate-gosselins-kids-look-happy-as-she-picks-them-up-from-the-bus.html?utm_source=Kate+Gosselin&utm_medium=twitter

INF Daily picks up on the other stories that Kate has run through millions and ask the wrong question. They ask what job she can get that would pull in the money to maintain the lifestyle of the past year. The real question is why anyone would expect to have that lifestyle without any education, training, or talent to continue to earn that amount of money. Kate lucked out. If she was too stupid to realize she was a flash in the pan, that's just too bad for her and the rest of the "Jakes" of the earth. It's the fate of most "reality" stars. The smart ones don't expect it to last but months to a couple years. Kate is long past her sell by date and true reality is about to come knocking.

Can't See Sheep said...

Nina said...
The real question is why anyone would expect to have that lifestyle without any education, training, or talent to continue to earn that amount of money. Kate lucked out.
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She probably expected that she would be "discovered" like the stars of the 20's & 30's, but as most of us know, many of those stars were created be the studios. Yes, they had the talent, but many were not just found one day as he story goes.

It's fun to believe in fairytales & dream, but at the same time you have to realize the realities of life & put those first, especially when you have the lives of eight children in your hands.


EnoughAlready:O said...
No Tami, they dont film on Holidays,they would have been told it was Thanksgiving on someother day such as was done on Christmas, Easter egg hunting and so on.
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Everytime I read a post that talks about this it makes me so sad. These little kids being told it's this holiday or that, when it wasn't, all for a camera reaction. It's all so hollow. Those poor little kids must have gone through a lot of confusion. It's not right & a camera shot is not that important.

Can't See Sheep said...

Sport said...
Read the sheeple sites and the jaded perspective on the holidays is always : "Good - those kids deserve a real Turkey Dinner in a nice home not TV dinners in a small apartment"

A couple of things come to mind... (snipped)
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An excellent post Sport. What I don't get is why the sheeple are so stupid as to not realize that it wouldn't be that odd for Jon to now be able to take the kids for Thanksgiving at his parents, he stills speaks to them, he still gets along with his family, so the kids could have a real family Thanksgiving dinner if their dad had had them instead of being locked up in the McOrphanage with the shrew, oh what a joyous event that'll be. Stuck with the succubus that sucks the fun out of even the tiniest of pleasures. I bet the laughter of children gives that witch nighmares because someone somewhere might actually be happy. Wow, Baba Yaga step aside!

will their home ever be happy said...

I'm pretty annoyed with myself for getting all riled by Kate Gosselin stuff again and going into ROL, etc. to see what's going on but, man, so upsetting to read that she's allegedly brought back one of the beautiful German shepherds into her prison yard. Unless the breeder had those dogs separated, has she broken up a devoted pair? It's hard on dogs who are part of a pack to be split up. I have worked with shelter animals and our directors will most times make a point of "dogs who come in as a pair to be adopted out as a pair." Thing is, if those poor children are having enough rage issues to get kicked out of school, you'd hope the dog might be good therapy for them but it could go the other way, as kids can often take out their frustrations on the animal, who will then bite, etc. It has always seemed like such an unsettled household at the Gosselins' and a dog is going to get equally unsettled with lack of routine, tension, etc. Why would she bring a dog back into the worst winter weather, too? Or maybe she plans to make it live in a crate inside the basement endlessly. Bad ideas all the way around in my view; dog should have stayed where it was and let the people get their lives worked out first. I hope it's not a case of "show" again, where the animals are props and, in this case, some kind of last-ditch popularity boost (dream on) when the Kate show seems to be sinking and criticism abounds. Dogs and kids, innocent victims. Just makes me nuts. It's so unfair. They deserve better, any kid or dog does.