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196 comments:

Ugly American (aka Monster Mommy) said...

I don't know exactly how to put this, and not offend anyone... But NO Santa, NO Easter Bunny and NO Halloween? For religious reasons? Unless serious money is to be made by Kate, filming the TLC event. Please.

This woman has not attended church, in well over a year (unless she was being paid for the appearance). Not to mention, she has spent so many years, exploiting her own children on Reality TV, and that is just fine and dandy in Kate's world. Something is so wrong with this picture.

"Gosselins"-- the anti-Rockefeller painting.

Miranda said...

Kate can always be counted on to pick and choose her "principles" according to which ones make the loudest ka-ching.

C said...

Sadly, we all know that Kate's value system is for sale to the highest bidder. So long as TLC hands over the dough, those kids will participate in any holiday or myth that TLC thinks the public views as fun and cute.

Momma needs a new (designer) handbag, after all.

hayden said...

I believe Jon and Kate used to attend an Assembly of God church. Here is an explanation of their beliefs on santa, Halloween and the easter bunny

http://ag.org/top/Beliefs
/topics/sptlissues_holidays.cfm



Ugly American aka MM you're right. The devout Christianity seemed to come to an abrupt end when Kate could not very well do her church tours and cry poor while living on an estate. We said the entire time what a sham she was and it was soley for the money, not to mention the fact she was taking 'love offerings' from people of very limited means. We were roundly criticized for speaking badly of this "wonderful woman who gives so much of herself to spread the word of God." Those people, including the pastor who vehemently defended her are nowhere to be found. The only religion Kate participates in now is at the altar of money and greed. Everything to her has a price, I absolutely believe she would do a semi-modest Playboy shoot if the price was right.

Jane in CA said...

I believe we saw pictures of the children hunting for Easter eggs this past year. (Or was it the year before?) Even if it was just for the cameras, at least they got in an Easter egg hunt and hopefully got to enjoy their goodies that day.

As to no Halloween, I always figured that Kate used her phony religious beliefs to cop-out so she didn't have to get costumes for all the children, and then take them trick or treating, or even worse, mingle with the commoners at a Halloween party.

(Note - I'm not saying that people who don't celebrate Halloween for their own personal reasons are phony - only that Kate only ever used her pretense at being religious for self-serving purposes.)

bonehead said...

Well, it seems that TLC is getting desperate, cause they are putting on Kates blog about the stuff Kate sees when jogging. Did they not, do this sometime ago. As, for kate filming at the Party City, Jon did not even know they were filming. TLC filming in secret? I've seen the pics, there were not a lot if any paps, and it look like purse boy was there(one over the shoulder pic, which looked to be purse boy). No one can give the exact time K8 was filming at the store. So, when is this filming gonna be aired? Another question: The twins have been going to this school for a couple of years, so why now is Kate letting them dress for Halloween. Unless they have been dressing for Halloween right a long. Kate is full of it, anything for MONEY.

Vanessa said...

Jane in Ca, I agree. It's just like the Crayola Factory, gum chewing, cupcakes, out to dinner, school backpacks etc, etc..."not THESE kids" In reality, it's "all to make Mommy's life easier".

Minka's Tail said...

Kate doesn't go to church because she has broken several of the 10 commandments!

#1 and #2-I think she's good (unless you count her worship of money or fame as a false idol) She never made a statue of Zeus or anybody!
#3-I believe she has said "Oh my God!" and used the Lord's name in vain. Probably broken

#4-She stopped going to church on her sabbath. (Broken)

#5-She doesn't even speak to her mother and father, much less "honor"them. (Broken.)

#6- OK, she hasn't broken this one, and probably never will. She's annoying , but she's not a murderess.

#7- The jury's out on exactly what Kate does with Purse Boy, or what her marital status was when she did it, but it looks suspicious. Jon had a lot of trouble with this commandment. I'd say half-n-half.

#8-Hmm-she never stole anything, but she sure did rack up freebies and "love offerings", if not fraudulently then by manipulating the facts.

#9-Not sure if she ever bore false witness against her neighbor, but her neighbors don't like her, and she'll lie about her ex on television!

#10- I never saw anyone covet like her.

So that's at least 5.5 broken! I myself have broken a few, but I don't claim to be too "Christian" to put up a Christmas tree.

Monster Mommy said...

Oh my, bad...

Correction- "Gosselins"-- the anti Norman ROCKWELL painting.

Silly me... (although, there is a very famous Rockefeller artist as well!) You get my point, though. They have become the exact opposite image of the perfect American family.

Col. Kate Commandent Breaker... said...

Minka's Tail, thank you for doing the Ten Commandments Report on Kate.
IMO, she has shattered everyone of them!
No other gods- TLC, Money, Fame
Graven Image- The TLC letters in Gold.

Lord's Name in Vain- she has cackeled this.

The Sabbath and Keep it Holy- hasn't been to church with the kids for years.

Hasn't Honored her Father and Mother in YEARS!

Not commit murder , well she has. The Bible says that if you hate your brother, (anybody) you have committed murder in your heart. She also hates being near her kids period, except for filming. kate hates everybody unless they give her money, then when she gets it, then she hates them more.

Adultery- well, I am sure that kate and Purse Boy have smashed this one to pieces.

Stealing- the money from the churches, the love offerings, all done scam wise. when they moved to the McMansion, it slowed down.

Bear False Witness- oh, yes, smashed to pieces. She lied about Jon constantly, lies drip like honey from her mouth. (Bible)

Coveting-she has coveted many many things. Money, Fame, Freebies, TLC programs, Purse Boy, Trips, 5 Star Hotels, Divider Limos, Beth's humbleness, Aunt Jodi's compassion for the kids and TLC's Wells Fargo Truck to Kates bank.

She is disgusting.


lukebandit
I wish Jon would drink lite beer

KatesDirtyFlintstoneFeet said...

RE: Trick or Treating...when they did the basement-oranizing show, where Kate learned what a labelmaker was, there were lots of trick or treat buckets strewn about.

Ohio Buckeye said...

"#6- OK, she hasn't broken this one, and probably never will. She's annoying , but she's not a murderess."

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Unless you consider the murder committed against the spirits and egos of the 8 Gosselin children....

cossysmom said...

"#6- OK, she hasn't broken this one, and probably never will. She's annoying , but she's not a murderess."

This commandment doesn't just mean physically killing someone--it also has to do with "killing" their spirit. She has done plenty of that!

ChurchMouse said...

"Minka's Tail said...

Kate doesn't go to church because she has broken several of the 10 commandments!"

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Let's not get into this aspect. Ms. Gosselin is in trouble THIS LIFETIME because she is not paying attention to the troubles on her doorstep.

Her kids are going to suffer because of her choices. Lots of women have large families. If you can't afford to have children, sometimes you become desperate as to how to raise them.

But we don't have to live in that kind of a world.

I just feel angry that Ms. Gosselin has NO ONE on her side. She feels that she is stuck in her contract. Her abusive relationship with TLC.

Is she a bitch, or is she someone who is desperately in need of help?

Marie France said...

http://smalltowngosselins.squarespace.com/
"Kids "Played" at Corn Maze Today"

From Werny Gal's blog. Werny Gal was there at the corn maze while Kate and the kids were there and saw it all. (Purseboy was there, too). Her report is
a first-hand, eyewitness account of the event.

tigerfan said...

C said...
Sadly, we all know that Kate's value system is for sale to the highest bidder.

Kate's 'value system' is and always has been SELF serving. This is a woman who prides herself on being a 'contract honorer' when it comes to her relationship with TLC, but yet didnt feel her original MARITAL CONTRACT and or the promises that were made to her husband and her EIGHT children during the vow renewal ceremony to be worthy or significant enough to honor.

No Worry, Beef Curry said...

My Dear,
Lukebandit...

I do believe, that may be the BEST post from your (coveted) contributions, I've read so far! And believe me, I try to read them all here, when I have the opportunity.

Just one thing, that leaves me wondering... Jon stated shortly after the separation, that Kate was 'taking him to the cleaners', and was not playing fair. He (strongly) hinted that she was unfaithful, early on in the marriage. He even went so far in a candid interview to say that if she didn't stop with the insane antics, and tried to take his kids away for good, he would divulge and expose said indiscretion.

Anyone remember this? I sure do. ADULTERY... SMASHED. No coveting thy neighbor's ('um) husband.

No Worry, Beef Curry said...

Make that... after the "separation announcement", more than 8-9 months after the fact.

Hit-and-Run flees by Kate, while claiming celebrity status to PA Policemen... knocking at your front door, should be Commandment #11.

I wish Jon would drink lite beer... said...

Someone posted about Mady and Cara dropping their backpacks at his feet. If I were Jon, I would of said, Mady, Cara come here, now. And when they got to him, he should of told them, pick up your bags and if I catch you throwing them down like that again, you will be grounded. They are old enough to get out of a vehicle and with their backpacks on and get on the bus and vice versa.
If their filming, you know Purse Boy is there. I just wonder how much money they are paying him and Gina now to keep this charade agoing?

WonderButton said...

Happy Halloween Gwoppers!

I just told my husband about Werny Gal's report. Here's our brief conversation:

me: Oh my goodness, Kate was at a corn maze!
him: Oh, is she a witch?

pinkdiamond611 said...

Thank you for posting the link to Werney Gal's blog. Werney Gal posts what she observed and allows others to make their own conclusions. All I can say is that without the show the kids probably wouldn't go anywhere or do anything besides sit inside the orphanage and go to school. And, even though their experience at the corn maze wasn't ideal, at least they had a chance to experience it. Perhaps their Dad can provide them with stressfree childhood experiences, because it seems the Kart isn't capable of doing so.

I wish Jon would drink lite beer... said...

Thank you, No Worry, Beef Curry. That just made my day. I love coming to this blog and posting and reading some of the awesome, articulate and moving posts.
Someone posted the other day about Kate's shoes being dangerous to drive in. I agree totally. If the floor mat got bunched up and she couldn't hit the brakes, oh dear. I don't want anything bad to happen to her, because of the kids. Because if something were to happen, bad, I pray that the kids are not with her. Hope that they are in school or at home or with Jon. I can read Jon's tweets and about 2 weeks ago, he had the kids over for a spagetti dinner. I hope those kids got several meatballs in the sauce, not 2 and quartered for all 8 kids and a big slice of garlic bread. snark to kate.
I am just guessing that the Corn Maze was filmed, and the costumes at Party City WAS filmed and this must be a new episode called-
Goblins and Gosselins and Corn Mazes, Oh, My!

BTW, back to her shoes. In one of the pictures of her dropping off her SUV to be serviced, she is getting into a car, but if you notice her jeans are so long and it covers the shoe somewhat. But on one of her shoes, you can't see the front of the shoe just the heel. It looks like a stick standing straight up into her heel. I thought that looks like a dowel that was put there to support her heel. Kate didn't buy a new car, they lent her that car so she could "run errands" and pose for Chris! hahahaha

cheryl said...

Gosh, wouldn't it be nice if K would dismiss all nannies, relocate kids to their local public school and friends, have kids pick out from a list of chores - some duties to earn an allowance that they could utilize
and respect their environment?
Admit To seeing the writing on the wall - all good things do come to an end.

readerlady said...

ChurchMouse said
"I just feel angry that Ms. Gosselin has NO ONE on her side."

Khate has no one on her side because she has driven them all away. She had a husband who clearly adored her in the early days - just watch the early shows. Even when Jon got on her case for her behavior toward him (see Toys R Us meltdown) , it wasn't because she hurt him, it was because it made HER look bad. That's real love. She had parents who loved and supported her, who cared for the twins while she was hospitalized before the 6 were born. She had a brother and sister-in-law who loved her children, were willing to take care of them without compensation,and who were willing to help Jon with maintenance chores around the house. She had close friends, like Beth Carson, who cared for her and Jon for the children. She had a church family who would have supported her with prayer and love and did provide financial help in the early days. All are gone now. Why? Because she didn't want to share the spotlight, or because they coundn't fulfill some need - real or imagined - in her life. I pity Khate, because she'll never know real joy or love or compassion, but she has only herself to blame for being alone.

Minka's Tail said...

I just feel angry that Ms. Gosselin has NO ONE on her side. She feels that she is stuck in her contract. Her abusive relationship with TLC.

Is she a bitch, or is she someone who is desperately in need of help?
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Where have you heard this, Churchmouse? Was it in a tabloid? I have never heard any indication that she was unhappy about any aspect of her relationship with TLC.

If someday she writes a book and says that TLC made her do things she knew was against her kids' best interests and she had no control over it--well, I'd cut her a little slack.

I'd like to believe that she's a nice woman playing a role on television, that someone is telling her to be an obnoxious diva who yells at and bosses her kids around like a drill sergeant. I'd like to believe that she didn't want to leave them to go on book tours, but was "forced" to. I'd even like to think the divorce was TLC's idea, because Jon didn't have a high Q factor, or because a single mom is more sympathetic than a married couple, and the pity factor was running out.

But I don't believe any of that. I think she is exactly who she seems on television, and she is enjoying her pursuit of stardom. If she needs the kids to help her become famous, it's all good to her. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

PA Woman said...

KatesDirtyFlintstoneFeet said...
RE: Trick or Treating...when they did the basement-oranizing show, where Kate learned what a labelmaker was, there were lots of trick or treat buckets strewn about.

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I thought they made a big deal about the kids going out trick or treating last year. Not for the show but with the paps.

Is He Still Pukin? said...

I thought they made an announcement that Khate took the kids trick or treating last year, right down the costumes but no pictures were ever shown nor any footage of the actual event. Don't remember, was barely even watching it after it became Khate Plus 8.

If the show is ever going to make it she is going to have to share the stage with someone besides the children to be her foil and suffer her wrath, someone who is likable to take the edge off her, and who can go behind her back and be nice to the kids when she treats them like the hired help.

Smashing Pumpkins said...

Have a Happy (and safe) Halloween, everyone!

Don't forget the '10 Little Pumpkins' episode... Kate screeching and hollering in that patch tent. Or the garage carving experience, I had the displeasure of seeing. I read Werny's latest blog this morning. Kate is "the destroyer of all things fun". What a witch.

tigerfan said...

Minka's Tail said...
I just feel angry that Ms. Gosselin has NO ONE on her side. She feels that she is stuck in her contract. Her abusive relationship with TLC.

Is she a bitch, or is she someone who is desperately in need of help?

I doubt for one second that 'Ms. Gosselin has 'no one on her side' or feels she is 'stuck in her contract'. Im certain that Kate has a team of lawyers, PR , marketing consultants etc... that are paid quite handsomely to represent HER best interests.! IIRC, Kate has RE negotiated her contract with TLC at least twice since the airing of the premiere episode of J & K + 8. Kate knows EXACTLY who is on 'her side' and is far from 'stuck' in her TLC contract as Kate prides herself on being a 'contract honorer'.

bonehead said...

I felt very sorry for those Gosselin kids. I read the Corn Maze account. Just as I thought, she cares nothing for those kids. They are Dolls to dress alike, use as props, then put back on shelf, till next use. Those kids did not even get to enjoy the experience of the maze, let alone have any fun, Kate did instruct them what to do, and according to the person who was there, those kids look afraid of her. Kate showed no feeling for them. Kate also had on leggins and spike heels, in mud and grass? She also whined/complained to purse boy that there were too many people there, 20 locals, yeah, a real crowd (they were ganging up on her) Is Kate becoming paranoid? (thinks people are after her, they did film the Party City in secret, Jon did not even know)Perhaps she is also becoming delusional in thinking she is like Angelina Jolie(a big important star). NOT! And there is an article on the net, by some idiot, saying that Kate is an American Hero like it or not and that everybody is jealous of her, cause she worked very hard to get where she is. I almost lost it. Thank God, the 3 comments there said it all. Boy TLC must be getting very desperate.

dustilies said...

bonehead said

She also whined/complained to purse boy that there were too many people there, 20 locals, yeah, a real crowd (they were ganging up on her) Is Kate becoming paranoid?

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bonehead, thanks for another great post (who on earth wears stilettos into a cornfield--that alone should entitle someone to a 72-hour hold in a psych ward)

Kate making a huge fuss over 20 people at the corn maze is pathetic, and one of the signs of her deep narcissism (with martyr-complex complications).

Snark aside, it breaks my heart that the kids didn't get to have fun at the corn maze.

I'm with Minka's Tail, who upthread said that she wished she could believe that Kate was just a nice person playing a role for the cameras to support her kids. And I share the sad feeling that this is just not the case with KG.

Wouldn't a caring mom, even a control-freak mom, tell TLC "you can film the corn maze, then shut off the cameras so the kids can go on a hayride and roast some marshmallows."

As one of my friends who is a therapist summed up a similar situation "it just plain hard to have a mom who is a bitch."

mmmsoap said...

When I was in college, there was a kid who didn't want to drink at parties, but wasn't comfortable enough in his own skin to just say that. He was always all "Oh, I can't, I just.....took an aspirin." There was no pressure to drink, and those who decline got no flak, except this kid, because his protestations seemed so false. If he just said "it's not for me" no one would have noticed or remembered. But because he lied about it, all the time, he was a laughingstock.

Kate seems so similar. This Halloween/Santa/Easter Bunny thing is a great example. Who cares if you tell your kid about santa or not? Plenty of kids don't celebrate those holidays and grow up well adjusted. It's the lying about your reasons that draws the attention.

Tami said...

I'm with Minka's Tail, who upthread said that she wished she could believe that Kate was just a nice person playing a role for the cameras to support her kids. And I share the sad feeling that this is just not the case with KG.

Wouldn't a caring mom, even a control-freak mom, tell TLC "you can film the corn maze, then shut off the cameras so the kids can go on a hayride and roast some marshmallows."

As one of my friends who is a therapist summed up a similar situation "it just plain hard to have a mom who is a bitch."
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I wonder if it is possible that they closed off the farm some other time and the kids had the run of the place with the pumpkins, bon fires, etc. And then they had to return to the maze to re-shoot some scenes because they didn't have good footage or something. I seem to remember that they have had to do retakes and shoot certain scenes over before. It seems over the top even for her that the kids were dragged all the way there and then never even got to spend enough time in the maze to finish it!

Age Appropriate.... said...

Now this is interesting, T.L.C.'s new program is "Dressing Your Age.
Maybe they should have passed this on to Kate!

Saddest Show on Earth said...

It must be so odd for the kids. Caravanning over to Jon's place, for a nice sit down, family-style spaghetti dinner. Then going back to Mommie Dearest (in hooker heels), and being shoved back into the van. Next thing they know, they have TLC cameras in their faces once again, and a crew of TV staff, at a corn maze. Adults instructing them what to do and how to act. All for the sake of some creepy reality show. The worst part is, the woman that is supposed to love and protect them as a parent, is the circus Ringleader.
How confusing is that for a six year old? You know Kate never tells them what the next episode entails, as they might blow it and "tell a friend". Not even their own father was made privy to what was taking place, this weekend. Sad.

Not a Cook, Not a Mom, Lot of Hot Air... said...

Speaking of Breakfast, I doubt Kate even cooked all that food. I have 3 boys ages, 27 25 24 and when they were 18 16 15, I would fix them the best Sunday breakfast ever! Pack of bacon, pack of sausage, Black Pepper gravy and then add the sausage in the gravy, the bisquits already made and you bake them, bread for toast.
each son would get:

4 suuny side up eggs with the lid on to steam the egg a little.

bacon

bisguits and sausage gravy

Large Dusty Rose Fiesta Plates

Place 4 ssup eggs on plate

bacon around the eggs

Buttered Toast cut diagonally and placed around the rim of the plate.

The saucer that goes with the plates had the bisquit and gravy on it.

My boys called this Dunky Eggs.

They all played sports, basketball, football, soccer, tennis, baseball, then men's church league basketball and softball. they played and ran it off.

Kate is too controlling with the kids food. When I saw her force the kids to name the way they eat their food. I almost fainted. She has that there or the craft services does and the chef cooks it for the crew. When Kate films, TLC provides her with a chef.

She is disgusting.


Lukebandit
I wish Jon would drink lite beer

Miranda said...

Random offerings:

I don't remember where I read this quote, but it reminded me of someone: "Her demons are so intense even she doesn't know when she's lying."

Just when we were starting to think/hope that maybe Kate got the hint about her hooker look, she shows up at a corn maze sporting more footwear from Frederick's of Hell.

Anyone remember when Kate was talking about what a good friend Jamie has been and how close they all are, adding, "She loves my kids." I remember noting that Kate didn't say that she also loves Jamie's kids. Just like with everything & everyone else, her entire perspective was focused on how she's benefitting from their relationship

KB said...

I'm a bit lost in this conversation, did Kate say the kids weren't going out this year for Halloween?

I remember the articles last year when she talked about the kids and Halloween, the two older ones went out with friends somewhere else. I can't remember if the little ones went out.

Barbra said...

It's sad to read a post like the one from Tami, that means that some are STILL being taken in by kate. She has done the same thing to the kids over and over, they get to participate in something ONLY as long as it takes to film what she wants. And that's what life is for the G Kids, LIFE AS SHE WANTS, she picked their halloween costumes just like she chooses everything else. After all, it IS all about her!

PA G-ma said...

From the beginning of the filming, K8 stated something like this filming was "for the kids". She is NOT creating good memories for them. Can you imagine that as they get older and have more contact with the "real" world, how angry they may be? When other kids talk about the fun they had on vacation, family gettogethers,holidays, etc., the contrast of experiences, will be great. Even tho K8 believes that she is doing EVERYTHING for the kids, these "things" are just material and need constant replenishment. While these kids have everything, they really have nothing to create good memories.

Remember the times early on, when Jon remembered his Grammy or was it Gammy? The look on his face was priceless. Those memories are part of him that are not replaceable. Sadly, such times will not be part of memories the Gosselin kids will have to think back on and share with others.

Hippie Chick said...

Minka's Tail said...

If someday she writes a book and says that TLC made her do things she knew was against her kids' best interests and she had no control over it--well, I'd cut her a little slack.

I wouldn't. I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of her mouth. She passes blame to everyone. If things end up badly for her or her kids, it is her own fault for not standing up & saying so. She will never say this is her own doing, of COURSE she will blame others for what she is doing. Sorry to disagree Minka, but her history proves she is one big fat liar. If she came forward & said; "What I did was wrong. I am sorry for what I have done. My kids deserved so much better for what I have put them through". Then maybe, just maybe, I will cut her some slack.

SoCalRosie said...

when this charade is finally cancelled I hope the kids all say to her at one time " you get what you get and you don't get upset'!

my9cats said...

Wonder if Kate ever stopped to think that perhaps those 20 people were waiting for them to leave so they could get in?

Crate Kate said...

In the beginning of all this madness, Jon and Kate seemed to lack the maturity and the intelligence to see around corners. Most people would have thought better of exploiting their family on a TV show. I think they were so blinded by the extra cash that they didn't even bother to think about tomorrow.

However, they have been at it long enough now to know how this adversely affects the kids. Kate isn't being forced to do anything by TLC. They dangle the carrot in front of her and she chases after it. It is just too bad she doesn't leave the kids out of her quest for fame and fortune, but I believe she knows full well she is nothing without them, and so it continues on.

I only hope Jon has gained some maturity and is sincere in his desire to get the kids off TV for good. Damage has already been done and it will be a challenge for him to undo it. If he truly wants the best for his children, he will keep being their advocate. Divorce is hard in and of it's self, but these kids have had so much more to deal with on top of it. I cannot understand how two parents can do this to their children.

Jane in California said...

Lukebandit wrote:
Speaking of Breakfast, I doubt Kate even cooked all that food. I have 3 boys ages, 27 25 24 and when they were 18 16 15, I would fix them the best Sunday breakfast ever! Pack of bacon, pack of sausage, Black Pepper gravy and then add the sausage in the gravy, the bisquits already made and you bake them, bread for toast.
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*drool!*

I doubt Kate will ever have a single moment's regret over all her lost opportunities, such as the opportunity to make special moments with her own children. She will never experience the quiet joy of cooking special Sunday breakfasts for her children; or their favorite meal on their birthday; or taking them for one-on-one time with mom.

Those children will never experience what I would consider a normal bond with their own mom, one based on the knowledge that mom = unconditional love and support. I know that I often take that safety net of parental love for granted, but I remind myself that not every child has that and to count my blessings. If there is a slight silver lining to my awareness of the Kate's of the world, that's it. Thanking my lucky stars for my own wonderful parents, and encouraging myself to do my best as a parent to my son. Even though we live a much humbler life than Kate and her children, I think my son is probably 100% better off.

Misty said...

I came across this article today:
http://celebrity-gossip.net/halloween-2010/kate-gosselin-pumpkin-patch-family-fun-431857

This makes me sick to my stomach. Why? Because I read the blog smalltowngosselins. So I read a first hand of account of what really happened at the corn field on Saturday. I am sickened that the media continues to spin these little portrayals of her as a "good" mom. And the last line has me howling - yeah, Im sure Kate paid for the kids - hahaha!

My heart hurts for these children. Every step of the way being robbed of the small pleasures of childhood and being forced to "work" while she "plays".

I actually blocked the TLC channel with the parental blocks, just so my kids can't accidentally turn to it.

C said...

Tami‬ said...
I wonder if it is possible that they closed off the farm some other time and the kids had the run of the place with the pumpkins, bon fires, etc. And then they had to return to the maze to re-shoot some scenes because they didn't have good footage or something. I seem to remember that they have had to do retakes and shoot certain scenes over before. It seems over the top even for her that the kids were dragged all the way there and then never even got to spend enough time in the maze to finish it!



Well, anything is possible, and it certainly is a pleasant thought, isn’t it? Unfortunately, I doubt it; remember, Kate has said—and probably sincerely believes—that the kids aren’t working, but are playing in front of the camera. She may have thought that the kids had already had fun and played, so why stay? Especially since staying would mean getting dirty, and we all know how well Kate handles dirtiness. Oh, and because she was uncomfortable and ready to go, she might conclude that the kids were uncomfortable and ready to go.

StoryLady said...

Thanks for the link, Misty.
That certainly looked like a nice, happy, fun day at the corn maze!
Just average kids out for a day with their mother . . .I didn't see one smile from those kids.

Can't See Sheep said...

pinkdiamond611, I beleive you're right. If not for the cameras the chidlren would go nowhere. We all know how kate hates spending her money on her own children. When it comes to the shrew herself no expense is spared, but with those kids, unless someone else is paying, every expense is spared. The cameras in their lives are not good & need to stop. Their mother also needs to grow up, not be such a skinflint & spend her own damn money on her own kids & cease looking for someone else to pay their way in this world. Ms. Cando needs to get up off her fanny & behave like a mom, she chose this, no one put a gun to her head & forced her to do it! Time to woman up, kate!

cheryl, OMG that'll be an interesting conversation between kate & the kids as they get older. Allowances! Can you imagine the work that shrew will have them do just to get a dollar out of her tight fist. And yes, right on, all good things do come to an end. One of the few constants in life is change.

silimom said...

It's the lying about your reasons that draws the attention.

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Amen to that. For someone who repeatedly claims she doesn't care what people think, that she's not even aware of other people she seems hell bent on needing their approval. I know, I know - it's all part of being a narcissist. It's just sad that at what... 37, 38? she still seems so desperately insecure. And she's passing that lesson down to her kids.

I was really enjoying the lack of Kate drama. I haven't really posted anything in weeks both here and other sites because there wasn't really anything to say. But now, she's back and my first thought was "Oh man, not you again!" I really hope that the rest of the country is feeling this way too. TLC will continue to film her until they feel they've milked her and the kids dry. Kate will never change and we're just feeding the beast.

As Jon and Ellen were tweeting, the best way to serve the kids is to not watch, don't talk, nor gawk or stalk.

Misery in the cornfield.... said...

Except for the one pose for the camera, her usual miserable face and open mouth, tells us she would rather be in the tanning salon.
Misery exudes from that woman. Hope she rode her broom last night.

lindahoyt said...

Why are they filming a Halloween episode? Maybe they will pretend it is Thanksgiving?

Kate is a ridiculous creature. So silly wearing those clothes, and just walking through the corn maze; skipping all other activities.

Maybe Jon and the girlfriend will bring the kids back so that they can actually have fun with a parent, without tv cameras and all the yelling? Is the patch still open?

lindahoyt said...

Those who refuse to stand between evil and the innocent, can not call themselves 'good'; they are a party to evil.

Can't See Sheep said...

I read about the corn maze. If those kids are going to have any joy in their lives they need to be away from that woman. Going to a corn maze which tends to be free or at least not cost very much & not even allowed to enjoy themselves there, just more work.

I'm really hoping that Jon can & will interject some fun into their lives, goodness knows they need it living with that joyless harpy of a mother of theirs. Boy the G8 really got hit hard in the mom category, it's like some awful mean-spirited joke.

And who the hell wears stiletto heels into a corn maze, this isn't Green Acres & kate certainly isn't Eva Gabor, she isn't even Arnold the pig.

Button Button said...

lindahoyt said...
Those who refuse to stand between evil and the innocent, can not call themselves 'good'; they are a party to evil.

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Here's another that I have always liked: "All tht is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke

C said...

After I finished laughing at the pictures of Kate tottering around the pumpkin patch in stiletto heels, I became kind of sad. I'm sure that in Kate's mind she looks classy and put-together. She doesn't seem aware that by wearing outfits that are not only inappropriate to the situation but actively incongruous with her surroundings, she's communicating how distant she is from the activities she's pushing onto the kids, and even the kids themselves. Her silly outfits even communicate that she doesn't want to be there, and would rather be wherever her clothing choices would look normal.

C said...

Oh yeah, allowances. Cara and Mady should have been given allowances a long time ago, and the 'tups are either just there or not far off.

God help Kate when the kids catch on that they've ALREADY worked for years, already have earned money, that virtually all of the family funds were earned by them, and thus, their parents no real business denying them any purchasable object. After all, it's THEIR money.

Kids have no business being the family breadwinners. It puts too much stress on them, disorders the family, undermines parental authority, and is ultimately no good for their emotional growth. Ask Lindsey Lohan.

bonehead said...

Did anyone notice the script in Kate hand in 2 of the pics? The whole thing was staged, just like regular TV. This is also the second time that Kate has been paranoid. The first was at the Tanning salon earlier last week(ducking out the back door to avoid the paps) and now complaining to purse boy about 20 people who were already at the maze, that they were crowding her. Since they said most were kids. As the phrase from a 60's song goes: "Paranoia will destroy ya".

Mary said...

Remember John got maybe $5.00 a week when they were married. I guess all those gifts he brought her she picked out

Tucson Mom said...

How in the world could any mother have fun with their kids in heels like that in a corn maze??? Oh yeah, they were only there to work. Kate has worn heels in crazy places, but I think this time beats the others.

If you notice, the other site only has a few corn maze pictures posted. The pictures look like they were taken around the same time.

What the? said...

C said...

Her silly outfits even communicate that she doesn't want to be there, and would rather be wherever her clothing choices would look normal.
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Clearly, she doesn't care about fashion. People that do, research it. She could have worn some jeans with those cute tall riding type boots with a heel and a small military style jacket with maybe a light scarf and looked really good. (gag a little, I am talking about Khate)But, as 'C said' she's sending another message or she's trying to make Steve's wife jealous?

wildflowers said...

Clearly, she doesn't care about fashion.


I disagree. Clearly, by example ( wearing a mini skirt on a hot air balloon ride, walking the streets & visiting tourist attractions in NY ) Kate CARES more about 'fashion' and how her BODY and clothing choice will appear and make a statement on CAMERA and to an AUDIENCE of people ( by standers and viewing audience). It's Kate's typical narcassistic , albiet desperate, LOOK AT ME attitude.

fidosmommy said...

bonehead said...
Did anyone notice the script in Kate hand in 2 of the pics? The whole thing was staged, just like regular TV. This is also the second time that Kate has been paranoid. The first was at the Tanning salon earlier last week(ducking out the back door to avoid the paps) and now complaining to purse boy about 20 people who were already at the maze, that they were crowding her. Since they said most were kids. As the phrase from a 60's song goes: "Paranoia will destroy ya".

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I think the blue paper was a game, part of the corn maze walk, handed out at the beginning of the journey. I don't think it was a "script".

Tami said...

Well, anything is possible, and it certainly is a pleasant thought, isn’t it? Unfortunately, I doubt it; remember, Kate has said—and probably sincerely believes—that the kids aren’t working, but are playing in front of the camera. She may have thought that the kids had already had fun and played, so why stay? Especially since staying would mean getting dirty, and we all know how well Kate handles dirtiness. Oh, and because she was uncomfortable and ready to go, she might conclude that the kids were uncomfortable and ready to go.
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I think what I said was misunderstood. When I said maybe they had the run of the place and then had to go back and reshoot, I was not suggesting the kids had a normal, fun filled day at the place previously. What I meant was that maybe previously they had done other activities there that were filmed for the purpose of the show and then had to get some retakes. I realize if they were there doing other activities like bonfires, etc, that it was all for show, BUT they may also have fun doing some of these things if they are still young enough to not know it's pure exploitation. With Kate along, it's hard for them to have any fun at all, but it's still strange they would drag them all the way there for half a corn maze walk-thru. Seems cruel even for TLC. That's up there with the birthday cupcakes. In any case, the show would be completely boring. Only a die hard sheeple wants to see those 8 kids running through a corn maze when they know darn well it's all fake.

Brummygirl said...

I wonder if K8 was watching DWTS and steaming because she was left out cold in the cornfield.
No one rated her dances in the top ten, no one invited her *to the dance party* in fact, no one invites her anywhere now.
I guess as Len Goodman would say:

*Kate it seems you are a right whalley
Wearing high heels as a corn dolly!*

Skywatcher said...

Button Button said...
lindahoyt said...
Those who refuse to stand between evil and the innocent, can not call themselves 'good'; they are a party to evil.

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Here's another that I have always liked: "All tht is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke

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Button Button

I never knew who was responsible for this statement, so thank you! I use this statement a lot when I watch situations were no one wants to do anything. Then when I do someone to stop the 'evil' I get attacked. Same reason why I stay on this sight and will purchase or watch anything 'Gosselin' any more.

Orlando, It's Autumn Sunrise said...

It's Kate's typical narcassistic , albiet desperate, LOOK AT ME attitude.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Don't some women do some really insane things right after they get divorced? Could this be her pathetic attempt to show Jon how much he's missing? Dressing like a skank, going scarecrow blond, flaunting "the girls" even in the dead of winter, all seem to me to be a cry to Jon, "look what you gave up!" This is her way of proving that she's over-the-top attractive to the entire male population and Jon can just eat his heart out. She can look just as young as his girlfriends.

Jane in California said...

Could this be her pathetic attempt to show Jon how much he's missing?
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I don't think so. She was more than ready to toss Jon out of her life and move on. I think Kate just has absolutely no clue how to dress appropriately. She seems to be mentally stuck in her early 20's. I often wonder if she spends hours looking at fashion magazines, and other celeb photos and tries to emulate the very young stars, instead of women closer to her own age.

As someone else said, if she had a stylist or even just a dash of true fashion sense, she could dress in casual chic and look really good. It's the fact that she constantly goes over the top, regardless of the event or locale, that does her in. Stilettos are not appropriate 100% of the time Kate - why don't you get that?

Instead of trying to show Jon what he's missed out on, I think she's still trying to show everyone from her past how they misjudged her, how they didn't see the star within her. In her mind, she is probably sure they are all jealous of her (just like her fans think we're "jellus"). It's a very odd mentality, interesting to study but it must be really awful to live with every day.

OC Girl said...

fidosmommy said...

bonehead said...
Did anyone notice the script in Kate hand in 2 of the pics?

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I think the blue paper was a game, part of the corn maze walk, handed out at the beginning of the journey. I don't think it was a "script".

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Yes, Werny Gal confirmed it in her comments section that it was a cheat sheet for the corn maze with different trivia questions to guide you along the way.

C said...

Jane in California‬ said...


“I think Kate just has absolutely no clue how to dress appropriately. She seems to be mentally stuck in her early 20's. I often wonder if she spends hours looking at fashion magazines, and other celeb photos and tries to emulate the very young stars, instead of women closer to her own age.”


I really hope that she *is* just imitating very-young celebs, because she can eventually outgrow that. My fear is that her taste and discernment is so bad that she isn’t imitating young Hollywood—she’s imitating the dirty butt-crack of Hollywood, the F-listers and lower who make it clear that they’d sell anything from their bodies to their mother’s grave for fame.

No Worry, Beef Curry said...

So eloquently put, C. "Kate would rather be where her clothing choices LOOK normal." In which case, that would be standing on the street corner of Hollywood and Vine.

Now she's paranoid of 4 harmless local families, at a holiday corn maze? (Give or take.) Someone call a shrink, and send him over to TLC.

Also, I love the Burke quote about good conquering evil, by simply doing nothing. Great posts- keep it up... by not watching!

Savannah said...

hayden said...
"I absolutely believe she would do a semi-modest Playboy shoot if the price was right."

@ 10/30/2010 8:26 AM

lol, wasn't that what the whole cover of People rag about?

Not a Fan said...

I think she dresses that way for Steve much like Beth Chapman dresses the way she does for Dog. Some men really like that "expensive cheap" look.

Lisa S. said...

ChurchMouse said
"I just feel angry that Ms. Gosselin has NO ONE on her side."

This comment is just so wrong. . imagine how Jon must have felt when he was stripped of is dignity when TLC humiliated him wile Kate stood by. TLC gave him the "you'll never work in this town again" treatment.
She gets no sympathy from me. What goes around, comes around baby!

Orlando, It's Autumn Sunrise said...

She was more than ready to toss Jon out of her life and move on.

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I don't think that she really believed that he would ever leave. It could be that she told him to get out; told him just one time too many, and he called her bluff and he was gone.

wildflowers said...

Jane in California said...
Could this be her pathetic attempt to show Jon how much he's missing?

Heck no! The 'pathetic' attempt was ALL about Kate. Kate could care less what Jon is/was thinking/feeling on any given day from the day they met to present day.

Skywatcher said...

What I wrote last night after taking Benedryl...

I never knew who was responsible for this statement, so thank you! I use this statement a lot when I watch situations were no one wants to do anything. Then when I do someone to stop the 'evil' I get attacked. Same reason why I stay on this sight and will purchase or watch anything 'Gosselin' any more.

I should have said...When I do somthing (not 'someone') and I will NOT purchase anything related to the Gosselin's. Sorry! =(

Alice Bluegown said...

fidosmommy said...
bonehead said...
Did anyone notice the script in Kate hand in 2 of the pics? The whole thing was staged, just like regular TV. This is also the second time that Kate has been paranoid. The first was at the Tanning salon earlier last week(ducking out the back door to avoid the paps) and now complaining to purse boy about 20 people who were already at the maze, that they were crowding her. Since they said most were kids. As the phrase from a 60's song goes: "Paranoia will destroy ya".

******

I think the blue paper was a game, part of the corn maze walk, handed out at the beginning of the journey. I don't think it was a "script".

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I disagree.

Who would have instructions for a game in a corn maze. Those blue papers are what all the talk shows use for their notes of what to talk to and how to proceed with that guest.

Alice Bluegown said...

Yes, Werny Gal confirmed it in her comments section that it was a cheat sheet for the corn maze with different trivia questions to guide you along the way.

11/02/2010 12:21 AM

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Oops!

Pardon me.

Guess I am wrong.

LOL!

Merrilee said...

Kate wore heels when they went to pick up their dogs. Didn't she learn anything?

Most people learn by experience.

So much to learn, so little time.

Jane in California said...

Kate has had TLC "on her side" for quite awhile. The fact that she doesn't seem to have any friends or family on her side is entirely her own doing, so I don't feel bad for her about that. By her words and deeds, she drove everyone away. The children can't leave because the court ordered them to live with mommy, but I bet they'd be happy to move in with their dad if given the choice.

If a person is completely hateful, then why feel sorry for them when no one wants to be around them? Why should anyone "be on her side"?

Can't See Sheep said...

Orlando, It's Autumn Sunrise said...
Don't some women do some really insane things right after they get divorced? Could this be her pathetic attempt to show Jon how much he's missing?
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It's possible in some ways. Jon did go on about how he loved her long blonde hair & here we are, kate has long blonde hair. I wonder if it's in part a see what you could have had if you'd only played along with MY plan, but I think it may only be part of it. I don't think she does any one thing for just one reason, there are probably many reasons & very possibly kate doesn't realize all of them herself.

To some degree she likes to rub it in. Oh don't I look fabulous, well, you can't have me because you didn't do as you were told, see, I won. A lot is about winning with a narcissits & trying to make others feel bad because it's the only way they can feel better. But I don't think it's just Jon targeted I think it's every male she dated & wanted to date. It could also just be men in general. They should have noticed her, they should have wanted to go out with her. they should have dreamt & lusted after her, they should have pursued her like Apollo pursued Daphne, why couldn't they see what a goddess she is (cough!). Thank goodness Jon didn't go along with her insane plan, but it's Jon & the kids who are suffering because of her. So yet again the children lose. They always seem to lose whenever their mother is involved.

I also agree with Jane. The shrew is stuck in her early 20's. It's not like she doesn't have the money to look good or to even hire someone to help her learn to dress nicely. I wonder if her PR team talk to her about this. I also wonder sometimes wonder if she purposely picks clothes that she knows Jon would never have picked & stays away from what he would have chosen. That look, see I can pick my own clothes out & I can do it better than you. The attempt to rub salt in the wounds once more. Yes, I know it's immature, but she is a narcissist & their immaturity seem to know no bounds.

She's still trying to show everyone from her past how they are wrong about her. She has the biggest house, she has the most kids, she has expensive clothes & big gas guzzling vehicles & the money to fuel those vehicles. She has not one but 3 nannies from what we've heard & she has other hired help. Not to mention there's a camera crew in her house that want to film her family, now don't you regret not being her friend in 9th grade!? I woudln't. Not to mention the acres she owns that she will never personally go out & see, it's all about status & kate showing those from her past how she has out done them & how they were all so wrong about her. She's probably showing her family too.

Geri said...

Merrilee said...
Kate wore heels when they went to pick up their dogs. Didn't she learn anything?

Most people learn by experience.

So much to learn, so little time.
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She also wore them to the dude ranch and the battleship. What a nimrod.

bcsurvivor2001 said...

No Worry, Beef Curry said...
.......Now she's paranoid of 4 harmless local families, at a holiday corn maze? (Give or take.) Someone call a shrink, and send him over to TLC.

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Well if SHE was paranoid about 20 lousy people....how do you think THEY felt....innocently going to a corn maze with your kids only to have this big family of 8 kids, and dozen adults walking around with cameras/booms, etc......interrupting YOUR trip to a local event for the holidays.

She's so totally ridiculous

she is evil said...

I seriously doubt Kate was truly worried about the other 20 people at the corn maze. Rather, she loves to bitch about being hounded by the paparazzi and fans. I've never seen someone so in love with complaining about the trappings of fame, even though it's clear she loves it. It makes her feel important and desired somehow. Funny how she doesn't mind the camera crew in her family's face yet hates the paparazzo who conveniently shows up when she has her hair and makeup done. Funny how she dresses for attention, albeit ridicule, and then 'panics' when a small group of moms, dads, and kids look at her at the corn maze. Funny how she doesn't understand how ANYONE, fan or not, would stop and stare at the spectacle filming creates and that SHE signed up for this. I think Kate would shrivel up and die without the attention and she LOVES
being in a position of rejecting said attention, even if it's imagined or self-created. She is pitiful

hayden said...

Can't See Sheep's thoughts about Kate and her desire for weath at any cost, wealth so she can act haughty and holier-than-thou, wealth so she can "show" every person who ever wronged her, makes me even sadder for those kids. Kate has created an enormous amount of debt and expenses for herself to live her Beverly Hills lifestyle in Wernersville, PA. She did this, apparently without considering if she will have a very large income for the next 30 years to sustain this lifestyle. She wasn't satisfied with being comfortable- she HAD to live like a STAH. We have seen what happens to many, many "real" celebrities when they fall on hard times. I shudder to think what will happen to the Gosselin kids when the day comes that their mother is no longer a TV personality. I just don't think they will ever see a dime of the money they've worked so hard for.

SUE said...

This woman has sparked comments from people who probably generally have little or nothing to say about other people in the media limelight.
She is such a scam artist it really seems to infuriate people how many people she is able to pull the wool over--from network executives to well-being church folk. Shame on her.
Not taking your kids out for Halloween, no publicity for her and cameras following her around. Notice these holidays have turned into camera opportunities only for her. None of this family is about the children when mommy dearest is around.

bbeau said...

I've never seen someone so in love with complaining about the trappings of fame, even though it's clear she loves it.

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I agree. Celebrities have to put up with it because it is a by-product of their "career". It is the fans that keep their career going. The same as professional athletes. If the fans go, so does their career. They usually almost always protect their families from it though, or at least they try. Their family life is separate from their career.

IMO having a reality show about your family is not a career. Its exploiting your family to make a few bucks (in Kate's case, quite a few bucks). She puts her and the kids in the limelight and then
b!@$%es about it. You can't have it both ways Katie.

And yes, she is loving every moment.

sillyrabbit said...

bcsurvivor2001 said...
No Worry, Beef Curry said...
.......Now she's paranoid of 4 harmless local families, at a holiday corn maze? (Give or take.) Someone call a shrink, and send him over to TLC.

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Well if SHE was paranoid about 20 lousy people....how do you think THEY felt....innocently going to a corn maze with your kids only to have this big family of 8 kids, and dozen adults walking around with cameras/booms, etc......interrupting YOUR trip to a local event for the holidays.

She's so totally ridiculous

EXACTLY!! Perhaps the other families and children at the corn maze felt as if THEIR 'memory making' experience was infringed upon and disrupted due to Kate + her 8 and filming of a reality tv show !!

Pony said...

Poor Kate got nominated for worst dancer and most dramatic scene and lost both awards tonight on DWTS. ;)
She can't even win at losing.

2badsosad said...

Hippie Chick said...
Kate named one of the worst moms on TV...and she's a "reality" mom...not an actor. That makes it even sadder.


IMO, its a pretty sad fall from grace when not so many years ago venues were booking Kate and audiences were paying to hear her tell her 'amazing story' to present day being named one of the WORST moms on tv, REALITY TV no less. Perhaps the public is finally growing tired of Kate's woe is me, single mom of eight, 'I do it all ALONE' schtick that she has been holding on to for dear life since the 'big announcement' of the divorce.

baglady said...

Maybe other celebrity moms need to take a clue from Kate!

I remember seeing pictures of Pam Anderson playing with her kids wearing Uggs. I've seen photos of Angelina Jolie taking her son to the movies wearing a cute pair of flats and a modest dress and coat. Just recently I saw a picture of Reese Witherspoon walking with her kids wearing fashionable flats, a denim mini-skirt (not too mini) and a cute, modest top.

Don't these celebrity moms know that they have to VAMP it up at every opportunity, especially if the paps are around?

LIZ123 said...

I think the khate train has hit the end of the track! I was at the local dollar tree store today, and just so happened to see many copies of both "multiple blessings" and "eight little faces" on the shelf!

pinkdiamond611 said...

The saddest part of this all is that the dope could have parlayed her show into an empire ala Martha Stewart, if she listened to the right people. She could have played the role of "super mom" on t.v. forever, even if it was just for t.v. She allowed her own vanity and selfishness to take over. She couldn't even pretend for the cameras, that she was a devoted, caring, sacrificing Mom who puts the needs of her kids before herself.

Tami said...

I remember seeing pictures of Pam Anderson playing with her kids wearing Uggs. I've seen photos of Angelina Jolie taking her son to the movies wearing a cute pair of flats and a modest dress and coat. Just recently I saw a picture of Reese Witherspoon walking with her kids wearing fashionable flats, a denim mini-skirt (not too mini) and a cute, modest top.

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Jennifer Garner and Gwen Stefani--I don't believe they wear stilettos when out and about with the kids.

readerlady said...

@ baglady

I completely agree with you about Khate's mode of dressing. To add to your list, there was a pix of Sarah Jessica Parker, who's known as a real fashionista, released a few days ago. She's walking her son to school and wearing casual slacks, a modest top and flats. Too bad Khate doesn't get the picture! I was reading an article the other day, and orthopedists and podiatrists listed the 3 most dangerous shoe types - stilletos, crocs and flip-flops - because of foot,ankle and back injuries. Next were mules and then, surprisingly, ballet flats. Guess Khate no longer worries about injuring herself and being unable to care for those 8, count 'em, 8, kids that she and she alone takes care of.

TheoryRemainsUpheld said...

I still think the dressing thing has NOTHING to do with "show Jon what he is missing," and EVERYTHING to do with *whoever* Khate has been , umm, dallying with these past oh so many months. (would type steve, but has never been proven has it) Still believe it's him, though.
I know from personal experience, that a newly divorced woman doing this is USUALLY about some NEW guy. Not the ex (unless she was totally shafted BY the ex, then could be, but still not likely)
Khate cares NOT for Jon, and I think never did, not the way a woman truly in love w/her husband does. She USED him, (for sperm), just like she uses everyone in her life (kids, too it seems). I dont think she'd "have Jon back." I hope HE wouldnt be that INSANE, either. Nope: she's got a guy; some poor schlep who is too dumb to know what he's got himself in to (steve?), and that's what this has all been about.
I was further gratified with this little theory of mine, when it was mentioned how "tired" and "sad" etc she was looking when PurseBoy was AWOL from her side. VEry typical reaction IF P.B. was and is the BF. Now? Back to the inappropriate dressing etc...and PB happens to be back. Dressing for him.
Funny though: anytime I have seen a picture of Gina Neild, she looks appropriate without being at all dowdy or homely-looking! (IMO) SOooooo-I still wonder what Steve could SEE in Khate G. Sorry.

Anne said...

Uh oh. If this article is true, it's behavior we've feared from the kids all along.

http://www.hollybaby.com/2010/11/03/kate-gosselins-daughter-sextuplets-school-suspended-fighting-bullying/

readerlady said...

I'm not surprised to see this happen (suspension for fighting). I'd hazard a guess that it was Alexis, since she seems to be the most agressive of the girls. Khate allows them to beat up on each other and makes no effort to correct it or control it, so of course the kids haven't learned that it's not appropriate behavior. When they are challenged by another child, the instinct is to react as they would to a sibling, and that is to physically lash out. Sad, predictible, and yet another incident to support Jon's contention that the kids are dealing with emotional and behavioral problems.

Along the lines of the current discussion of Khate's dress (or lack thereof), the same page as the article had 2 celeb. pix - Heidi Klum with 2 of her children at a pumpkin patch, wearing SNEAKERS, jeans and appropriate top, and Alyson Hannigan with her daughter, shopping, wearing LOW HEELED boots, jeans and an appropriate top.

Back to the school suspension - I hope and pray that this is a wake-up call to get those kids into therapy, but judging from Khate's reported reaction, I doubt it.

Proud Grandma said...

Today on the View, the gals were talking about Bristol Pailin on Dancing with the Stars and saying how she was making an effort to improve, then went on to say that another person on DWTS last season made no effort to improve. Wonder who they were talking about??????

Mandy said...

I can totally see that happening, but two week suspension for a 6 year old? In my high school a fight resulted in only a 3-5 day suspension. Two weeks for a 6 year old is a little extreme.. Maybe it didn't happen or maybe it did and was exaggerated! Poor kids must get a lot of crap at school from their peers! :(

I will NOT be tuning in Sunday night, I'll stick to Family Guy or Desperate Housewives. :)

NoUse4Kate said...

I am behind in my Gosselin news. I clicked on a couple of the links in the previous weeks blog and what is up with the little "choo-choo" engineer hats? They are hilarious. She looks like a complete idiot in the hats, especially with 4-5" heels. Get a clue woman!

The boots at the corn maze were mind boggling. It is apparent by wearing those boots that she had no desire to really play with the kids. Such a shame. :/

Maybe Not the First Offense said...

For a first offense, if both parties are agreeable and neither have a similar previous incident, the parties involved (along with their parents, depending on the age of the participants) may agree to settle the dispute in a mediation process. If both parties fail to agree to mediation, or if one or both have been involved in a similar incident, the guilty party may appear before the Honor Committee or meet with the school administration depending on the nature of the situation. The student should expect appropriate consequences, which may include work duty, probation, suspension, or possible dismissal.

A4Eliz said...

I agree with Mandy, 2 weeks is a long time for a six year old. They need to learn to behave in school and they can't do that without being in school. It is hard for a little kid to adjust back to schoo after time off. I feel bad for the Tup being home for 2 weeks, either being treated harshly or neglected.

bonehead said...

Why does it not surprise any of us that one or more of the Gosselin kids, would get into a fight at school. It's been like a time bomb ready to explode. It does not matter where you go to school, public or private, special school etc, the actions of the parent do catch up with the children. The schools might or do try to prevent, such things, but when kids are by them selves and not teacher, teacher aids are around, the endless teasing happens. THANK YOU KATE, you just put your kids at un-wanted risk. Cause once this happens, it will again. I also read that Kate was being her selfish self, by telling the kid: that you are embarrassing me! Everything is about Kate. Kate will have more instances of fighting. Perhaps the kid did it for attention or something another child said about their family.

silimom said...

I read the link to the article about one of the girls being suspended. I too agree that 2 weeks seems like a long time, unless of course it isn't the first incident.

The thing that struck me the most, however, was the comment at the end of the article that stated Kate should go home and give her kids more attention.

Here's the rub - if the show went off the air, if all of her entertainment gigs dried up, if she had all the time in the world it wouldn't change anything. Kate will never be the mother we all want her to be. Period.

Kate will always be Kate. When the show goes away, as it will eventually some day, when it's just her and the kids it will still always be about Kate.

And for those that think she'll pass the kids off to Jon when the cameras go away, think again. If Kate were to ever give custody of the kids to Jon, it would be admitting she couldn't handle them, that she was deficient as a mother. Kate wouldn't want anyone to think badly of her - her self worth is tied too much in what other people think of her, or at least that's how it appears.

My hope and prayer is the kids always have people in their lives who can offer them a different perspective from the ones provided by their parents and whom they know they can turn to for support. That good, solid, dependable and responsible people will come into their lives that the kids can look up to and model from.

HW said...

I am not one bit surprised that a Gosselin child was suspended for fighting (IF it is true).

After all, bullying is all these children know. They have witnessed the one adult in charge of them most of the time - their mother - bully everyone around them to get her way. They rarely have adult supervision to help them learn to settle disputes with words instead of hitting, etc. Yes, they have nannies to do work around the house, but Kate's presence is so strong, her way is bound to over ride any others' ways.

The Gosselin children are still young enough to change their ways IF they are having behavior problems, but somebody has to care enough about them to give them a fighting chance.

And we all know that isn't going to be Kate.

Captain of the Titanic (but why hasn't it sunk yet?) said...

What do you want to bet that the producer at TLC is gnashing his/her teeth that no cameras were able to capture the fight at the school? Such an opportunity for the drama they crave and they had no access to it. Bwa ha ha ha.

Somehow I think the business model for the Gosselin franchise was to see how quickly and how publically they could destroy these kids.

willowmom said...

Should any of us really be surprised that a news story of this type is coming out NOW? After all, there is a new episode airing on Sunday. From the stories I've read, no exact time of the incident was given; how long was this kept quiet only to be released this week & stir things up? I'm not questioning the validity of the item; only the timing.

SaNdY said...

I am not all surprised that one of the Gosselin kids was suspended for fighting....I had a gut feeling that something like this was bound to happen....I feel so badly for these kids, all they know are not-a-nannies, sporadic visits with their dad, no contact with extended family (or minimal at best) and don't even get me started on their alleged 'mom'....who has pimped them all out since they were tiny babies, allowing the world to witness their meltdowns (and her's, too), their potty training, their vomiting, etc, all so she could have fake boobs, fake hair, fake tans, etc....kids need a secure, loving environment with involved parents, but the Gosselin kids have been have been sadly gypped out of all that....what a shame...

Ohio Buckeye said...

Nothing says "great parenting" and "happy home life" like a six year old's school suspension.

"We are the realest reality show on tv": yeah, sure.

lindahoyt said...

Actor Tom Felton speaks the words the gosselin kids will be speaking in a few years:

"...the 23-year-old actor also brings up what he lost along the way—namely, his childhood—and that money and fame are less-than-satisfying substitutes.

"You will never get those years back and you can't put a price on them," he insists, adding: "Fame is not a positive thing. The idea of being famous is a lot better than the reality. It's fantastic when you go to premieres and people cheer you, but it's not real. And it's totally not my approach to get my name on a club door just because I can."



Read more: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b208796_tom_felton_good_riddance_harry_potter.html#ixzz14GQ3k3Sd

dee has had enough... said...

ET just did a promo for the Alaska trip. They said to look for the gosselins on a future Sarah Palin episode when the family goes camping. Guess they are showing the camping trip...can't wait to see how they spin it, or don't.

Captain of the Titanic said...

Now who would be in a position to release the info on the circumstances regarding the suspension?

1. The school - nope not likely

2. Victim's parent? - possibly but that parent might not have been privy to Kate saying the child was embarassing her.

3. Jon - not likely. If he was going to spill the beans, he would have done it when he mentioned they were having some behavioral problems.

4. Kate - not likely. She'd be reluctant to admit one of HER perfect family would be in trouble.

5. The ex-nanny - ah, now we have a likely source. This suspension is probably something that happened recently but not in the past week or two. The news agencies like to hang onto gems like this and release them when it suits their needs.

The article says "a source close to the family"-- well who is closer and is going to see how Kate reacts than the nanny?

What the? said...

Captain of the Titanic (but why hasn't it sunk yet?) said...

What do you want to bet that the producer at TLC is gnashing his/her teeth that no cameras were able to capture the fight at the school? Such an opportunity for the drama they crave and they had no access to it. Bwa ha ha ha.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
If TLC had their way, they would have the girl tup repeat the bullying so they could get it on 'take two.'

C said...

I'd love to know what--if any--plans Kate has for the future. No TV show lasts forever, and there's good indications that their show will end sooner rather than later.

Is she planning to live on savings? I doubt if the kids earned her a lifetime supply of designer bags and tans, the way she's burning through it. Let's also remember that Cara and Mady could open a can of legal whup-ass on their mother when they turn 18, just 8 years from now, and wrestle the remains of the Gosselin fortune from her.

I don't think she's interviewed often enough or invited to enough speaking engagements to manage her current lifestyle. Her books are a national joke. Her line of children's clothing never materialized. She's lost credibility among all but her most die-hard fans, and has a reputation for being difficult, lessening her opportunities in the entertainment field.

Maybe she's spending money so that, when the show is over, she'll be broke and can go back on state aid?

Yolanda said...

The timing of this story is just too coincidental for me. This has sparked renewed interest in the show, folks will want to watch just to see how the kids are behaving.

Trust me, the rating are going to go up for this episode!

Monster Mommy said...

Speaking of No Worry Beef Curry and lies-- Didn't Jon wear a t-shirt that said Lies Lies Lies?
That pretty much sums Kate up, in a nutshell.

Brummygirl said...

How do we know that this story about the suspension is true? Regardless, it has sparked interest on the internet and T.L.C. have once again garnered some interest right before the Alaska airing.
Something is rather fishy other than the whales!!!

baglady said...

I feel so badly for the girl who was suspended for 2 weeks. It makes me think back to the birthday party episode where one of the girls complained to Kate that some kids were talking to her about the show. Kate's advice was for her to tell the other kids that she didn't want to talk about it.

Now, Demi Lovato is in rehab. Apparently when she first started on TV, she was bullied so bad at school that she opted for home schooling. I get the feeling this could be what happened to the Gosselin girl as well. Maybe a little teasing and then she reacted by hitting. It's sad. At least with Demi, she was teased for playing a character. For the Gosselin kids, they are teased about actual "personal" matters that they gave no permission to air to the entire world.

Those poor kids..... said...

Maybe the girl tup was upset with the other child for not eating their lunch in the correct order! The girl tup was jusy trying to show the child what happens when you don't eat your lunch in the correct order! Poor kids, they have been completely traumatized by their disgusting excuse of a "mother"!

bonehead said...

I will never understand the other Gosselin sites, when they say: they are fair to Jon and then blame/bash him for all of Kates problems and whatever the Kids are doing. Like this fighting in school. This is purely Kates' fault, she is the parent in charge, the one who is there 24/7, not Jon.( cause she wanted it that way). Everything that befalls her is her own fault, but the sheeple only see that it's poor single Kate, tryin to raise 8 kids. They must have blinders on. I promise not to go to those sites again. They also call people who disagree with them , jellus and 4th grade minds. Gee, I don't know, if we and other sites have 4th grade minds, why do we spell jealous correctly. This site is more fair to Jon and Kate. We point out the obvious, we do not have blinders on. We see Kate for who she really is, from what she once was. We all know people do grow and move on, they are suppose to move on for the good not bad. Kate has moved on to the bad, with the help/miss guidance of TLC. It's sad cause the kids are caught in the middle.

Barbra said...

seems to me that with a kindergartener getting a two (count em, 2) week suspension this was probably NOT the first offense. Maybe the school is finally reaching the point of realizing that the whole "G" family is hardly worth the tuition they get from it with regard to the amount of 'crap' that surrounds them. The rest of their students and their families deserve to get the quality they are paying for, and I am sure that is NOT the circus that surrounds the Gosselins.

Vanessa said...

Let's just say it's the tup we are all thinking it is, and SHE was the one being bullied? All schools have a "hands off" policy, this can be easily enforced-you hit, you're suspended, case closed. Bullying is harder to prove. This one tup has more gumption than the others, maybe she just hit to defend herself in her mind. What about the other tups? They ALL could be targets and they seem more likely to keep it all to themselves.

EnoughAlready:O said...

OMG! Has anyone read the latest comment BM left on Kates take ? How she (BM) is the "NEW,TRUE mother to be worshipped"? This woman is off the wall crazy!
Anyway loved reading the comments on the kids suspension , how the sheeple believe that it was a private matter and shouldnt of been put out there. I cant believe they are serious! Thanks to their mother, the sheeple, and a wonderful judge ,they have no private lives!

dustilies said...

I think Titanic, Yolanda and Brummygirl are right--the timing of this "scoop" is very fishy.
E! news has an internet video with a long promo for the Alaska trip. The anchor says: "The trip turned into a teary mess, thanks to Alexis" then there's footage of a whalewatching boat trip and Alexis hollering becasue she can't see the Whales that KG is pointing to. Then we get the same old couch moment when KG mocks the child for not looking in the right place.

So many people are doing this little girl so wrong. A little brute who ruins an outing? No, I see a very sad girl who cannot, as a kindergartener, process the crazy, stressful, artificial world of her exploitative childhood.

I hope against hope that the kids develop close bonds among themselves to help them through all this. But I've seen KG set them against each other so many times that it will be a miracle if they do.

So Much We Don't Know said...

While I do feel sorry for the child whether this story is true or not, let the basic issue fall upon the home life and discipline within the home. Schools are there to teach academics and not to raise your kids. Social skills and respect for others begins at home.
The children were encouraged to "act up" for the cameras and as children, they have a problem keeping real life and reality shows separate. Every time they "acted up" on the show, K8 let them deal with the problem at hand, all by themselves. The kids learned that hitting (big spoon) and yelling were acceptable and encouraged for the filming. How most of us parents deal with our children with our standards, K8's standards are different. She never appeared to want to get involved with sibling issues and let the kids deal with incidents on their own at very young ages. They imitate her and her dominant persona.

Two weeks suspension may not be so excessive for the incident, as it may have been implemented (as a last straw) after repeated warnings, which were ignored by the custodial parent. Could the alternative penalty be total suspension, go find a new school? With the recent emphasis on bullying in schools, I'm sure this case was thoroughly investigated before action was taken. If this involved your child who was on the receiving end of the bullying, would you sit back and take it for the benefit of a "STAH'S" child?

I raise these issues "IF" the story is true.

Afternoon Interlude said...

Normally we hear corrections postsed on this blog about everything reported about their school. It's interesting that nothing has been said here from any "insider" about this. I also wonder if maybe Jon and Ellen didn't secretly let this out to draw more attention to what the kids are going through. You know Kate would try to hide it.

Vanessa said...

Remember the episode on "Discipline", how they spoke like were truly qualified experts? Between all the screaming and obnoxiious behaviour we've seen lately including this last "teaser" and now this supposed suspension, those kids are out of control. Again, kids mimick what they see. I agree, they are too young to process all this stress in their lives and it manifests in A LOT of negative behaviour. Kate the expert on child rearing- baha! Now that's a joke if I ever heard one! She needs to get an expert into her life and maybe devote a portion of her long lonely days trying to become a better parent. OR maybe give some of the parental time to JON???

dustilies said...

Apologies--I realize I made a mistake in my last post about an E! report on the upcoming Alaska show. We don't know which girl tup was suspended for fighting, and we don't even know if the whole story was true.

Alexis was clearly framed as a troublemaker in the promo for the Alaska show, so that part of my post I stand by.

Marie France said...

Maybe Not the First Offense said...
For a first offense, if both parties are agreeable and neither have a similar previous incident, the parties involved (along with their parents, depending on the age of the participants) may agree to settle the dispute in a mediation process. If both parties fail to agree to mediation, or if one or both have been involved in a similar incident, the guilty party may appear before the Honor Committee or meet with the school administration depending on the nature of the situation. The student should expect appropriate consequences, which may include work duty, probation, suspension, or possible dismissal.

11/03/2010 1:23 PM
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Might this be from the Parents' Handbook of the kids' school? I would bet that Khate adamantly refused to participate in "mediation" AND that this type of thing has happened before over a long period of time with not just the girl tup, but with some of her siblings as well. It's not the kids' fault. That is what Khate has taught them. She has no clue how to be a parent, how to play nice, and resolve problems. Her solution for everything is denial, abuse, sarcasm, rudeness, selfishness, and the most sickening of all blatant lying. The girl tup was attempting to solve a problem in the only way she knows how, by fighting/hitting. That is what she has been taught on a daily basis and has lived with the entire six years of her life. And let's not forget about the environment of constant fear and threat she and her siblings live in. The big red spoon is ever-present.

Sobby McFibberpants said...

Could this be her pathetic attempt to show Jon how much he's missing?
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I doubt that Jon is 'missing' this hot mess of a woman! Other than having some feelings of respect for her as the mother of his children, he should be thankful to no longer be her purseboy/punchingbag. Watching her hobble around in heels while making a spectacle of herself is nothing to miss, but more proof that for some, divorce can be a blessing. This Thanksgiving Jon has alot to be thankful for. The kids can be thankful for the little bit of privacy they get when they are with their dad.

In the spirit of Thanksgiving, it's been a while since I've said thanks to the MODERATORS for all of their hard work in keeping up with this site. You've maintained a level of consistency that is rarely seen with blogs and are appreciated...THANK YOU! Also, thanks to all who post for giving me such interesting, funny, and insightful reading material :)

Pattypanda said...

Maybe, if the suspension story is true, that's why Kate was almost MIA in the weeks before Halloween. Maybe she had to actually spend some time at home w/ her own child. Can you imagine how irate she must be at the thought of paying for one nanny, full time for only one child. Maybe TLC had the store held, because they think any drama around the time of one of the shows is better than nothing. Just hope Jon is keeping good records, has his own set of reports from the school on the situation.

dee has had enough... said...

Don't ask me why, but today I listened to some of the radio show that that nut baby momma is on. Well, first, they will now be having every first thursday of the month dedicated to "kate" (I'm gagging....vomit in the back of my throat!) but what really struck me was how stupid the people who call in really are!! They were mostly posters from bm's site (big surprise) but they sound like idiots!! I'm turning it off now...I realize by listening, I am contributing to the problem...curiosity just got the best of me today! and I guess I had too much time on my hands....

readerlady said...

I've taught school (elementary level Special Ed.), and I currently volunteer 2 days a week at a private (Parochial) elementary school. A 2 week suspension, at least at our school, is the last step before dismissal. The first incident (and, depending on severity, even a couple of subsequent incidents) are dealt with in-school. Then comes a 3 day suspension, a 5 day suspension and then 2 week. For older kids (Jr. High and High School), there may be in-school suspensions, where they are sent to a special disciplinary school or classroom. The younger the child, the more flexibility and tolerance is shown in accepting and correcting behavior. For a kindergartner to be suspended for 2weeks, the behavior has to be VERY extreme. If this story is true (and I suspect it is), then the behavior must have been ongoing despite numerous corrections, seriously injured another student, or put another student (or students) in danger. Judging from some of the kids' behavior on the show in the past, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that many or most of them are unmanageable in the classroom. A school has the responsibility to educate and, to some degree, discipline their students, but they are under no obligation to tolerate continued, disruptive behavior.

To be expected said...

Of course the timing of the tup suspension story is perfect whether true or not. My internet home page is comcast and they always have 4 so-called popular videos on the home page to watch. Well, today's video is "Gosselin children melt down in Alaska." It's all hype for the upcoming show and since there is a fool born every minute, people will most definitely fall for it and tune in.

I'm just surprised that it was a tup though who got suspended. I always thought it would be one of the twins.

lovetosew said...

EnoughAlready:O said...

OMG! Has anyone read the latest comment BM left on Kates take ? How she (BM) is the "NEW,TRUE mother to be worshipped"? This woman is off the wall crazy! " snipped

What's scary is BM lives about 15 miles from me. It's bad enough Long Island has Amy Fisher. Now we have BM too. I am not using my usual signoff for this post.

Monster Mommy said...

For Bonehead.. *Shaking head in agreement*

I promise never to go to the other (Pro-Kate) Gosselin sites again, as well.

The Moderators on some of these gossip websites, are just as stupid and unreasonable, as the crazed Sheeple. Geez, I'm so glad at least we have GWoP (and stellar Mods... Thank you!)

Marie France said...

lovetosew said...
EnoughAlready:O said...
OMG! Has anyone read the latest comment BM left on Kates take ? How she (BM) is the "NEW,TRUE mother to be worshipped"? This woman is off the wall crazy! " snipped
What's scary is BM lives about 15 miles from me. It's bad enough Long Island has Amy Fisher. Now we have BM too. I am not using my usual signoff for this post.
11/04/2010 2:36 PM
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Yep, she is indeed certifiable. I wonder what her neighbors and the parents of her daughters' classmates think of her. Do they realize she's nuts? And what about her husband? If he really is her husband.... BTW, I am not using my usual signoff either. ;)

Marie France said...

readerlady said...
I've taught school (elementary level Special Ed.), and I currently volunteer 2 days a week at a private (Parochial) elementary school. A 2 week suspension, at least at our school, is the last step before dismissal. The first incident (and, depending on severity, even a couple of subsequent incidents) are dealt with in-school. Then comes a 3 day suspension, a 5 day suspension and then 2 week. For older kids (Jr. High and High School), there may be in-school suspensions, where they are sent to a special disciplinary school or classroom. The younger the child, the more flexibility and tolerance is shown in accepting and correcting behavior. For a kindergartner to be suspended for 2weeks, the behavior has to be VERY extreme. If this story is true (and I suspect it is), then the behavior must have been ongoing despite numerous corrections, seriously injured another student, or put another student (or students) in danger. Judging from some of the kids' behavior on the show in the past, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that many or most of them are unmanageable in the classroom. A school has the responsibility to educate and, to some degree, discipline their students, but they are under no obligation to tolerate continued, disruptive behavior.
11/04/2010 12:11 PM
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Thanks for the insight!!! This is exactly what I have been thinking!! A two-week suspension for a six year old seems over the top until you realize that most schools have a form of progressive discipline as you describe. To get to the point where a 6 year old is suspended for 2 weeks is pretty much the last step before expulsion and indicates that she has been acting out for a long time and the school has no recourse. They must have already tried everything else. Maybe all the kids will be jerked out of the day school and enrolled in public school after the New Year..... My fear with that is that their lives will be a million times worse as the will leave the house later and come home earlier since there won't be an hour bus ride. Also, I would think that the public schools would have less control over kids who tease and taunt the Gosselin kids. It's a horrible situation any way you look at it, but this is ALL Khate's fault. She has NEVER assumed a maternal or parental role. Those kids are just her employees and she is a vicious, vindictive, and abusive boss!!

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

As a third grade public school teacher I have never heard of a two week suspension. A child is sent to a disciplinary hearing and perhaps moved to another school, but TWO WEEKS ??? no.
As a private school parent I also never heard of TWO WEEKS. The parents would have been asked to find another school.
My grandson was bitten, twice, in preschool, and the mom graciously sent many apologies to my daughter and spent a week monitoring her son in class. The problem was solved.
I do not understand this school's discipline policy. IF true, it must have been a prolonged, and serious, infraction.

Sharla said...

If you don't see your comment immediately, please do not keep hitting send. We don't need them four to ten times. Thank you very much.

pinkdiamond611 said...

I'm a kindergarten teacher in a nyc public school. I have never heard of a two week suspension either. . .I think you need to bring a weapon to school in nyc for that. . .anyways, the Principal has "suspended" kinders every now and then, mostly as a "wake up and smell the coffee" message to the parents to do something to help the poor child. Maybe the school is suggesting counseling and the parents are not doing it. I have seen instances where medication might be indicated and the parent is not open to it. I do not believe that a kinder would act out by fighting if she was being bullied. Kinders are the biggest tattletales around and she would tell what was going on. It is not the same as when older kids get bullied. By watching the show, we see that since babies, the Gosselin children have used violence and aggression towards each other. It doesn't surprise me that one of the kids did the same in school. She doesn't understand that it is not acceptable behavior. Nobody told her at home. jmo

Anonymous said...

I am hoping Kate won't feel she has to charade them through "home-schooling" to "spare them" from the meaness of the public who does not understand them as I think she could try to spin it.

Those poor kids need every minute of their school days away from her, and of course, she'd likely hire a not-nanny to teach them while trying to claim all the credit for herself.

Please, TLC, no crossover episodes where Kate takes the kids to the Duggar household to learn how to homeschool the children....

Pony said...

I'm with Hard to keep loving Jon. I've taught for over 30 years, in public and private schools alike, and sent two kids through school. I've never heard of a 2 week suspension. If true, they must be trying very hard to work out a very serious problem. Private schools can insist on outside counseling for a child who is acting inappropriately and infringing on other children's learning. I would think that would be a condition of the child returning to school.

That said, it's also possible that there was a serious issue between a tup and another child. Who is to say that there wasn't another child suspended? At my school, if student A taunts student B into punching him, they both get suspended.

jasmine said...

Two weeks suspension for a kindergarten student seems pretty severe. I was under the impression from previous posters that this was a small private school and the childrens' privacy was very protected. How would this information about one of the Gosselin children become public information on a gossip site? If the suspension story is true, maybe the children are being dropped off and picked up at school to avoid Chris the pap from taking photos at the bus stop.

KB said...

Whether the suspension story is true or not, the behavioral problems are becoming clearer and clearer.

The children are perhaps acting out what they see, but more particularly is likely the result of wanting attention and frustration. Children even as old as they all are, still struggle with words and the ability to express themselves in that way, so frustration usually manifests it in physcial form with bad behavior or meltdowns, etc.

Jane in CA said...

Thanks for the insights from school teachers about discipline policies. Having a child of my own going through the public school system, I'm also aware of a progressive discipline procedure. At most, my son has gotten notes sent home that I must sign and return, and he had to do detention a few times.

To hear that a 6 year old was actually suspended from school, for any length of time much less two whole weeks, tells me (if the story is true), that the child has ongoing and very serious discipline problems and probably needs counseling stat. Of course, the idiot judge who awarded Kate full custody probably still thinks he's a good family law judge.

Kate's horrible parenting is coming out in the way her children behave. If the child is eventually booted out of the private school, what's Kate going to do then? She certainly won't want to deal with two different schools, two different school schedules. She'd probably pull all of them out of that school and off to another private school that needs the money.

She is so foul.

What is the Truth? said...

Now it's being reported that it was one of the twins who was suspended.

http://www.limelife.com/blog-entry/Kate-Gosselins-Daughter-Suspended-from-School-for-Fighting/85481.html

barnaby said...

Like other current and former teachers - both public and privete school - I'me having a bit of trouble with this story.

However, looking at it from a different pov, I'm wondering about the fact that all six were held back in the same class. Certainly not all six were at the same grade level after the last school year and perhaps the problem might be a child who is so bored at being held back that they are acting out. I don't know anything specific. But I've taught enough years to know that holding all six back was done for TLC's convenience, not for the children's educational/social development.

Mama Morton said...

I was under the impression from previous posters that this was a small private school and the childrens' privacy was very protected. How would this information about one of the Gosselin children become public information on a gossip site?

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The source wasn't disclosed...only that "a source close to the family" leaked it. Anyone, such as a household employee, or someone she or Jon told, passed it along. It would be hard to keep something like that quiet. The school (including teachers and administration) would not release any information on any students.

No Worry, Beef Curry said...

I also find it VERY disturbing, that a child in Kindergarten would be suspended, for two entire weeks. I've mentioned here before, that my mother worked for a very elite private school, here in CA, for many years. And this punishment would be extreme, unless someone was seriously hurt, or warranted suspension due to prior incidents.

Also, my little sister, is/was a major troublemaker, so I consider myself an expert on the subject!

silimom said...

Jon and Ellen are in the news for complaining about the staff at Taco Bell gawking and laughing at them.

First: Ellen, sorry but the best thing to have done was to let it go. Or perhaps for Jon to have said "Yes, I'm Jon. I'm just trying to grab some food, would you mind not staring? It's a little embarrassing. Thanks!" I realize you both want to lead private lives, but the reality is it's going to be a while before that happens. And you knew this was part of the package when you began to see Jon. So in the mean time, be polite, even when others are rude. Jon's notoriety should fade at some point.

Second: Your letter came off as a bit petty and immature, frankly. I realize that you felt frustrated and I certainly can imagine how irritating it is to be pointed and gawked at but in the end you were the one who came off looking bad, especially when you brought up the lawyer and demanded they be fired. Should the taco bell employees know better? Sure. Did you have a right to complain? Yes but you can complain without coming across as petty or like some diva. To be truthful? Your letter made you come across a bit like Kate Gosselin. I'm sure that wasn't your intention, but that was one of my first impressions.

I think you and Jon are working to help the kids and again I am doubly sure you have stresses and frustrations. You're living it not me. But you chose to date Jon and this attention, for good or bad, is part of the package.

Alice Bluegown said...

A couple of pictures advertising the Alaska trip sure do bother me.

Cara looks so, so sad. That poor child. Mady is clearly crying in one of the photos.

But Cara really saddens me.

Well, it all saddens me. I am just feeling very disturbed, seeing those photos and reading about one of the girl tups being suspended from school.

I have no idea if that is true.

I did see one source that said the last nanny is the person who gave out that information.

Maybe so.

How awful for those kids' lives to be so public. I can't imagine what they must go through every day of their sad little lives.

Whether the show goes on or not, these kids don't have a prayer for any type of normal life.

jojow said...

Whether it was a tup or one of the older girls, two weeks is a long time for anyone to be suspended. Other than something illegal (a weapons violation, drugs, etc.) or beating someone to a pulp, I can't even imagine what a high school student would do to get suspended for two weeks.

If it's true, that child did something really, really bad or as others have said, this is the last straw in a series of unfortunate events.

MomIAm said...

It's possible that the suspended child, if the story is true, was being bullied. I've observed kids who are the victims and who lash out because of their frustration and fear get suspended instead of the bullies. It isn't fair. It happens more than we think.

I'm surprised at the number of bullies. It is getting worse. It is all around us. Look at the lies and bullying done by the politicians whom I think should be role models.

Vanessa said...

I remember a poster, who is either a neighbour or has kids at that school, insisted in past discussions that there was ABSOLUTELY NO BULLYING at the school...

wildflowers said...

No Worry, Beef Curry said...
I also find it VERY disturbing, that a child in Kindergarten would be suspended, for two entire weeks. I've mentioned here before, that my mother worked for a very elite private school, here in CA, for many years. And this punishment would be extreme, unless someone was seriously hurt, or warranted suspension due to prior incidents.

IMO, the what some are referring to as an 'extreme' punishment is more than likely per the school's ZERO TOLERANCE policy with respect to fighting/bullying.

bcsurvivor2001 said...

I personally think a lot of chains are being yanked over this "suspension story"....there is just something very coincidental/fishy about the whole thing and it's timing. Leaked? Only one tabloid reporting it. ROL nowhere to find any comments about? No twitters. Nothing!!! YET all I've seen all week from several of these sites is talk about the suspension.

Apparently the "leak" worked ?

Ravello said...

I'm sure every kid in the school went home and told their parents about the fight at school. Any parent or family member of another student could have leaked the story. The school probably has a progressive discipline policy and this was not a first time occurence. The child could be expelled, this is a private school.
Heartbreaking but not suprising. Sounds like Kate is more worried about her image (You're embarassing me") I see a hopeless situation for these 8 kids. Twisted, vicious Kate is the biggest threat to the kids. It will only get worse-wait until the cash flow dries up. She will drown in her own bitterness. Kate needs professional help as do the kids.

KatesDirtyFlintstoneFeet said...

Kate Gosselin Slept While Kids Trick-Treated (from US Magazine)...

"...She had bodyguard Steve Neild drive her brood around in a van while she "slept in the front seat. The kids were told to be quiet so they wouldn't wake her!..."

bonehead said...

Ok, just read/saw video this online, report: seems Mommie Dearest Kate, sat on her lazy but, in the van, and was napping , while purse boy drove the kids to trick & treat. Really, she could have done this herself, why does she need a body guard? And why was purse boy not with his own kids? She is paranoid! When purse boy was not around, she got around. I'm sure she was wearing her heels and low cut top, for Stevie boy,oooops I mean Halloween. Or why didn't Jon drive them. Geez, what exactly happen on 10/15 court, did Jon get railroded, out of visitations?

NT said...

US magazine is reporting that on Halloween nite Kate had Steve drive the van while taking the kids trick or treating while she slept in the front seat. They were told they had to be quiet as to not wake her up. ARE YOU KIDDING ME??????????

Geri said...

"...She had bodyguard Steve Neild drive her brood around in a van while she "slept in the front seat. The kids were told to be quiet so they wouldn't wake her!..."

*****

Too much boxed wine.

kate can't do sh** said...

I would like to believe that Kate might possibly do everything in her power to insulate all 8 kids from the tabloid fodder. I know that is what I would try to do. I'm sure she spends time talking to them about the world having certain people who hate and we must just ignore them, etc. Then again, telling them that everyone is just 'jellus' of you could create problems in itself. As long as she is ensuring they spend time with friends and participate in normal activities, they may be able to rise above all this crap.

However, having said all that, the 6 kids are still young and giddy and don't really know much else other than playing, eating and sleeping. They have not started to intellectualize their lives yet so Kate sees 6 kids laughing and goofing around with each other, so therefore, they don't have any issues. She still feels in control of their emotions and to her, they probably are doing just fine. Of course, most 6 year olds appear that way. I've always said just wait until they hit around age 9 when they start maturing and figuring out who they are as individuals. This is when they begin arguing back, questioning your authority and presenting 'issues' that parents loathe to have to deal with. I recall my husband and I struggling with all of that at the time. There were some dark days back then and it lasted quite a long time. I remember posting this thought on another site once and some dirt bag called me vengeful and accused me of wanting all of Kate's kids to have all of these emotional problems. If her 8 squeak by with none of the above, well, Kate ought to get mother of the year then. And I will present it to her personally with a nice, big juicy apology. Kate. Call me.

fidosmommy said...

I bet Kate is mostly upset that she has been called out to the school to get her child. It cuts the personal time short.

I don't know if the suspension story is true, but I certainly am not surprised that the aggressive behavior of the children is causing some level of trouble at school.

Some of the kids seem physical. Others seem quite vocal, while others seem to be "controllers" who
give threatening vibes to other children who tick them off. I remember a visitor at the house getting "the treatment" from one of the Gosselin children. Any of these can be problematic in the classroom.

Oh, for some help for those kids!
Even if this suspension report is
false, it's still clear they need some kind of help.

EnoughAlready:O said...

lovetosew said...
EnoughAlready:O said...
OMG! Has anyone read the latest comment BM left on Kates take ? How she (BM) is the "NEW,TRUE mother to be worshipped"? This woman is off the wall crazy! " snipped
What's scary is BM lives about 15 miles from me. It's bad enough Long Island has Amy Fisher. Now we have BM too. I am not using my usual signoff for this post.
11/04/2010 2:36 PM
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Yep, she is indeed certifiable. I wonder what her neighbors and the parents of her daughters' classmates think of her. Do they realize she's nuts? And what about her husband? If he really is her husband.... BTW, I am not using my usual signoff either. ;)

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I didnt know she (BM) was on Long Island as so am I :(

longtimelurker said...

I remember a poster, who is either a neighbour or has kids at that school, insisted in past discussions that there was ABSOLUTELY NO BULLYING at the school...
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In defense of that poster, she said that Mady & Cara specifically were not victims of bullying at the time that the discussion was taking place (last school year). She didn't say there was ABSOLUTELY NO BULLYING at the school.

readerlady said...

bonehead said ". . .why didn't Jon drive them?"

It probably wasn't his time for visitation, and we all know Khate's attitude toward allowing Jon additional time with HIS children. It's a shame, but she is using her children in her sick little game of oneupsmanship with Jon.

Re the neighbor/fellow parent/whatever who asserts that there is no bullying ever at the school - I say bull hockey. Wherever there are children, there will be bullying. Some of it is pretty mild - teasing because of freckles, crooked teeth, glasses, etc. and some of it is evil, cruel and nasty. It depends on the kids and on the situation. It is entirely possible that the child who was suspended was being bullied. Given the example set in the home, they don't know any way to defend themselves other than to lash out physically. Khate has taught them from an early age that the people who are supposed to protect and defend them will not do it. She's shown time and again that she won't listen to them, won't intervene in their squabbles, and won't defend them when they are attacked. Since their own mother won't do it, they have no expectation of anyone else in authority - teacher, aide, playground monitor, whatever - of coming to their defense. Her saying that an "expert" told her it was normal for them to hit each other in the head as an excuse for allowing it is ridiculous. It may be "normal", but that doesn't mean that it should be tolerated or not corrected. You can't expect a child to automatically know what is
acceptable and what is not. Sorry for the rant. It's just that every time I read about that witch (substitute your own word here LOL), my blood pressure goes up another 10 points. I know I'm not a parent, but geez, Khate, use a little common sense!

MabelD said...

Kate Gosselin & Steve Neild Have Sleepovers in Her Basement


We’ve been speculating for months over Kate and Steve’s possible romance and now sources tell us that he has been sleeping in Kate’s basement!

Are Kate Gosselin and Steve Neild having slumber parties? The rumored couple took 7 trips this past summer and we told you that they were together 10 out of 16 weeks during the summer months. But even though Steve is married (he never wears a wedding ring) several sources and eyewitnesses tell HollywoodLife.com that the bodyguard has been staying over night at the mom-of-eight’s Reading, Pa., home.

“He stayed in Kate’s basement a few times,” says one of our sources. “But he isn’t supposed to do it because of his employee relationship contract … so he tried to keep it underwraps.”

Our other source tells HollywoodLife.com that Steve, who is currently married to Gina Neild, has slept in Kate’s garage apartment as well.

“He slept in the basement for months and then lived in the garage apartment,” says the source. “Now, nobody knows where he lives.”

Steve has been taking on more and more fatherly “duties” around the house – helping landscapers, carrying the kids and accompanying Kate to the grocery store. We wonder what his wife thinks, although, she does live three hours away in Potomac, Md.

http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2010/11/05/kate-gosselin-steve-neild-affair-basement-kate-plus-8/

A4Eliz said...

K8 sleeping in the van while kids trick or treated sounds like she was high or drunk, othewise she would have stayed home and sent a nanny. Maybe she meant to totter along in her heels and pretend to be a devoted Mom escorting her kids. How else could she make sure the kids ate the candy she picked out for them before it was consfiscated.

Vanessa said...

Another example of kate not giving 2 sh#@s about doing anything with her kids unless there are cameras involved. What is wrong with this woman? Remember her in the limo with Stevie-boy and all she wanted to do was sleep? How much sleep does someone need?

sounds like Etoh said...

At first I thought what abhorrently selfish behavior (as usual!) from her, re.the sleeping and so forth, but now it makes more sense.....drinking will do that to a person. MY theory, and YMMV as always), is that she INTENDED to do the Halloween thing; remember -she LOVES attention--but she over-drank and rather than appear at doorsteps of ppl. in that state, she was ordered by StevePurseBoy to remain in the car. And/or, she herself realized enuf to know she should not/couldnot go up to doors with them. If that was caught on someone's cell phone cam or whatever, she could not only have trouble in the tabloids, but Jon would have some ammo for court (not that her horrendous parenting has influenced any judge thus far)
I do NOT think she was "Just tired from having eight-count 'em EIGHT !- kids, as some of her aplogists have been writing in as comments over on US mag website!

KatesDirtyFlintstoneFeet said...

LOTS of crazy stories all coming out right now, oddly enough, RIGHT BEFORE HER NEXT TV SPECIAL!

PLEASE PEOPLE--> DON'T WATCH! This is an act of desperation from TLC & Kate's PR team. They'll stir up ANY interest, whether it be bad or good....Desperation.

Kate asleep while trick-or-treating, a school suspension...

DONT WATCH! Please?

Crate Kate said...

I have long thought that Kate was depressed. Ever since the show started, she has complained about how tired she is and how much sleep she needs. When the children were infants I could see how she would be exhausted due to night time feedings, but she also had a lot of help, so that didn't even make sense. I thought it strange she stayed in bed until 8 am with 6 babies and two pre-schoolers in the house.

I remember an interview I saw once with Bobbi McCaughey and she said she actually got more sleep with her 7 babies than she did when she just had the one because of the volunteers. They would send her off to bed and handle the babies so she could get a good nights sleep and have the energy and strength to handle all she had to do during the day. So having 6 babies isn't really an excuse for exhaustion when you have a ton of helpers.

I think that once the reality of having all those kids set in, Kate became depressed with her life and now as things spiral out of control, it would be enough to depress anyone. She once mentioned that it took her 2 years to accept that this was now her life. Kind of sad if you ask me. It seems she set out to accomplish having HOMs and then when she achieved that goal, she wasn't happy about it.

At her age, she should have energy enough to handle a busy life. I know I did and most young moms I know are juggling way more than she is with no help. I especially admire my daughter's friends whose husbands are in Iraq. They really have a lot of weight on their shoulders and they just get up every day and do what they have to do. No complaining, no helpers, no designer clothes, no organic groceries, no kraft services, no nannies or gardeners or house keepers and no mansion. Those are the women that TLC should be doing television shows about! They are the ones who are truly supermoms.

realitybites said...

“He slept in the basement for months and then lived in the garage apartment,” says the source. “Now, nobody knows where he lives.”

Sounds like same 'living' arrangements Jon had when he was STILL married and residing at the Konpound.

No Pain No Gain said...

Or..she feigned sleep so she would not have to particate and Steve would make the kids be quiet. For a mom of 8 to go to sleep during a long awaited festive event is just well not natural...but then neither is Khate. I guess it is safe to assume the rejuvenating cameras were not present.

what a loser said...

Trick or treating is usually over by 7:00 or 7:30 pm. For Kate to be asleep in the van before that time when she should be chaperoning her kids as they trick or treat screams WASTED. Sure, she could have been tired from filming or whatever, but asleep?? Unable to stay awake to make memories with her kids at 6:00 pm? The woman is a drunk, on drugs or both.

faline said...

I agree. I have stated in the past that I believe that Kate has some sort of mental health issue. This is in no way being snarky. This woman shows clear signs of illness. Depression, exhaustion (even with multitudes of helpers) signs of narcissism, her dissociation with her own children are all visible signs that all is not right. The complete look of misery that was captured in photos were awful enough that I said she needed to talk to a therapist.This doesn't include any "hungover" pics out there, which may include yet another issue altogether.

2badsosad said...

Funny how Kate was not of the ability to stay awake and sit up right in a vehicle for the hour it takes for her children to go trick or treating, but had absolutely NO problem staying awake and sitting upright in a chair while a stylist spends HOURS 'installing' her multi thousand dollar hair weave!!
Additionally, Kate has the personal and physical stamina to run SEVEN miles a day, but just cant seem to physically bring herself to stay awake to WATCH her children trick or treat? Tsk Tsk

Mid-Day Song said...

Re the neighbor/fellow parent/whatever who asserts that there is no bullying ever at the school - I say bull hockey. Wherever there are children, there will be bullying. Some of it is pretty mild - teasing because of freckles, crooked teeth, glasses, etc. and some of it is evil, cruel and nasty. It depends on the kids and on the situation. It is entirely possible that the child who was suspended was being bullied.
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Agreed. I think this "source" is remaining quiet because the fight is proof that the school is not utopia. There was a fight. It had to be for a reason.

Mid-Day Song said...

I remember a poster, who is either a neighbour or has kids at that school, insisted in past discussions that there was ABSOLUTELY NO BULLYING at the school...
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That is exactly what was said. It was as if the kids are living in this protective bubble and are untouchable simply because it is such an elite school. I didn't buy it then and don't buy it now.

Button Button said...

Mid-Day Song said...
Re the neighbor/fellow parent/whatever who asserts that there is no bullying ever at the school - I say bull hockey. Wherever there are children, there will be bullying. Some of it is pretty mild - teasing because of freckles, crooked teeth, glasses, etc. and some of it is evil, cruel and nasty. It depends on the kids and on the situation. It is entirely possible that the child who was suspended was being bullied.
*******
Agreed. I think this "source" is remaining quiet because the fight is proof that the school is not utopia. There was a fight. It had to be for a reason.

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Wasn't it KATE HERSELF that said there was no gossiping, bullying, etc at the school the kids go to because the families of those school kids weren't that type of people?

She didn't use those words, but it sure seems to me that she is the one that said it. Maybe it was during her interview with the person from the Today show? Or am I confused?

pinkdiamond611 said...

A fight for a "reason" for kindergarten students can be over not sharing crayons or blocks.

Merrilee said...

Mama Morton said...
I was under the impression from previous posters that this was a small private school and the childrens' privacy was very protected. How would this information about one of the Gosselin children become public information on a gossip site?

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The source wasn't disclosed...only that "a source close to the family" leaked it. Anyone, such as a household employee, or someone she or Jon told, passed it along. It would be hard to keep something like that quiet. The school (including teachers and administration) would not release any information on any students.
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Somewhere I read that it was the last nanny that got fired that told about it. Who knows, really, if it is true or not, though.

Ohio Buckeye said...

@Kate'sDirtyFlintstoneFeet: No worries, you can count on me to continue enjoying NOT watching anything Gosselin.

Also agree with Faline that K8G seems to have serious mental health issues that, I'm guessing, are not newcomers in her life.

CakeIsGreat said...

I have the US magazine. In the article about Khate wrecking Halloween, they also report the suspension. They claim its a girl tup. I believe US more than these random Hollywood gossip sites (and actually I think US has been pretty accurate lately w/ stories.) Also? They have a quote from an insider that Khate reacted by yelling at the girl tup "You're embarrassing me!" Completely, unsurprisingly, tragically, Khate to the T. I can't help but believe this. Those poor kids.

God don't they realize by now they can only be embarrassed on a national level. How dare any kid bring shame upon Khate ny displaying they haven't been taught to act properly in social settings. Or maybe the school just doesn't understand it was a "love tap."

Brummygirl said...

What an outrageous reaction from Kate to the tup.
If it had been Mady, I am sure she would have said "you have embarrassed me all my life!!"
You can bet the girl paid twice for her transgression when she got home.
Kate is a minefield, one of these days she is going to really blow.

Berks Has Shoes! said...

She didn't use those words, but it sure seems to me that she is the one that said it. Maybe it was during her interview with the person from the Today show? Or am I confused?

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You're right. I remember that. She said that the reason was because the parents weren't concerned about things like that, that they had other things to do.

Tallahassee Lassie said...

"I remember a poster, who is either a neighbour or has kids at that school, insisted in past discussions that there was ABSOLUTELY NO BULLYING at the school"

^^^^^^^^^^

I don't remember the word "bullying" coming up. I do remember that there was a discussion about whether Cara and Mady were teased at school, and someone said that the teachers, parents and other students really liked the twins, and took it upon themselves to remain vigilant, and if any teasing took place, it could be stopped before it escalated.

Perhaps the person is silent now because he/she isn't reading or posting on the boards. This could be because so much has now become speculation, words twisted around, and gossip reported as facts; or if someone was close to the situation, he/she choses NOT to confirm anything or disclose information about the kids' school experiences because these things should remain private. Once something is disclosed, it only adds more fuel to speculation, and gossip runs rampant. The person most likely knows EXACTLY what happened, if anything, but chooses not to say anything because it isn't his or her place to do so. That's a good thing. I'm sure there are parents in the school that remain silent out of respect for the kids.

First it was reported that "someone close to the family" leaked the information; then it became the ex-nanny. How do we know this? IF anything happened, it could have been anyone who said it, and until this is confirmed, I'm just taking it for what it's worth -- internet he said/she said that never should have been written, even if it were true.

However, IF it's true, then heaven help those kids. Kate isn't going to stop filming, come hell or high water. It's going to take something bigger than a school fight for her to pull the plug. By then, sadly, it might be too late for her children. The emotional/psychological damage will already have been done.

RelatedFeelings said...

I can relate to what Khate purportedly said to the suspended girl (whomever she may be) , because I had parents like that also. It was always how THEY felt about whatever I was doing...that THEY were not embarrassed or shamed IFO neighbors or the church, or whatever. Any thoughts about how something may have affected me were down the list. Or god forbid, attempting to discover the CAUSE why I may have done or not done something. No: just don't embarrass THEM. I can completely relate to how these kids are being raised, albeit my parents were a watered-down version of what KHate appears to be.

Berks Has Shoes! said...

Merrilee said --

Somewhere I read that it was the last nanny that got fired that told about it. Who knows, really, if it is true or not, though.

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Who knows? Another internet site was reporting it was one of the twins who got into trouble. The initial source said it was "a girl tup." You'd think they'd at least get their stories straight!

That's why I'm not putting any stock into any of these accounts.

Miranda said...

kate can't do sh** said...

...However, having said all that, the 6 kids are still young and giddy and don't really know much else other than playing, eating and sleeping. They have not started to intellectualize their lives yet so Kate sees 6 kids laughing and goofing around with each other, so therefore, they don't have any issues. She still feels in control of their emotions and to her, they probably are doing just fine. Of course, most 6 year olds appear that way.

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I respectfully wish to offer my POV.

When I was a 6-year-old, trapped in an emotionally, physcially and sexually abusive family situation, I was acutely aware of the dangers surrounding me and I was on perpetual high alert for the signals given out by the adults and older siblings who controlled my life.

As children typically do, I gave the outward impression -- at school, with friends & with other family members -- that nothing was amiss.

Internally, however, perhaps beginning as early as age 4 or 5, I was constantly comforting and reassuring myself by promising myself over and over -- chanting, really -- that all I had to do was survive until I was old enough to leave and then it would all be over, forever.

It would never be completely over, of course, because horrific childhoods follow you throughout your life, but that vision got me through.

Because of my experience, I believe the Gosselin children are cabable of "intellectualizing their lives" -- they're just not yet able to articulately communicate their thoughts or feelings to others.

My hope for them is that they have also found a way to get through it.

Tami said...

Perhaps the person is silent now because he/she isn't reading or posting on the boards. This could be because so much has now become speculation, words twisted around, and gossip reported as facts; or if someone was close to the situation, he/she choses NOT to confirm anything or disclose information about the kids' school experiences because these things should remain private. Once something is disclosed, it only adds more fuel to speculation, and gossip runs rampant. The person most likely knows EXACTLY what happened, if anything, but chooses not to say anything because it isn't his or her place to do so. That's a good thing. I'm sure there are parents in the school that remain silent out of respect for the kids.

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No, I doubt this is it. That person always dicloses information about the kids and their school experience. I don't think they would remain silent now. Anytime the school is mentioned, there is no shortage of information shared. There was also a great deal of discussion, specifically about bullying, not just teasing, and it was stated as fact that no one ever, ever, ever gets bullied at that school. Ever. Least of all the Gosselins.

CakeIsGreat said...

The biggest reason I think to suspect this story is true is that no one has said it isn't. It's been out for a few days now, and its usually known whats in the tabloids a few days before they hit news stands to give PR people a chance to do damage control and/or debunk something. Wouldn't Team KTLC be everywhere claiming its all lies if it was? Surely Jon would take to his twitter to clear his daughters name.

I would say maybe the wrong kid was reported. It could be a girl twin (I could see that "mistake" being made moreso than it being a boy 'tup... just because it's harder, imo, to mix up boys and girls. There could just be talk around school that "a Gosselin Girl got suspended", and someone reported it as a girl tup and not twin.) But if that is the case, someone would have to admit that it was the wrong kid, but, yes a G-kid was suspended and there's something rotten in the State of PA. I don't see J sacrificing one kid for another, so since no names were mentioned and everyone is just left to guess/assume, I can see him hoping it just blows over in the public soon and not outing a specific kid. K/TLC of course do not want to admit any kid was suspended because that looks very bad for the Brand. Yeah, its coincides with the upcoming episode, but I still don't think it could be a plant. The image is a perfect mom with some active, but perfect kids other families should aspire to be like. Bullying/fighting is on the forefront these days of every talk show out there. One of the kids being a hitter is not something I think they'd risk not sitting well with the public, nor do they want to further lead people to think the kids really are being adversely affected by filming during a time Jon is once again trying to get them off TV. If Kate was embarrassed enough by the school, would she really want this as public knowledge?

I wonder when this incident took place? If the girl was on two-week suspension but was still going around on filming events like the corn maze (yes we know the full account that it was NOT very fun for the kids, but they're trying to sell it like it is) that will look awful to the "public". Though maybe this was during the time a little while ago where it seemed the G's were MIA from the media.

I also wonder if this could be one of the things that has made J vigilant again in getting those kids off TV.

Kitty The Dog's Blog said...

Miranda: THank you for sharing. I can't imagine what you went through. It really puts things into perspective. I hope the G8 get help soon.