Monday, September 20, Schoool Time!

The Gosselin kids are ready to head back to school and this year the sextuplets are going to kindergarten! They gather all of the needed supplies like uniforms and tennis shoes and even get back to school hair cuts.

30 minutes

198 comments:

Kate is a Gnat Spitter, Camel Swallower... said...

the tup girl with the longest hair, they cut enough of her hair off to donate to Locks of Love.

TLC drops the ball again. if they would have promoted that The ratings would of went up some just because of that.

but, it's kate and she does not donate! even to kids with cancer or alapecia so they can make a wig out of donated hair.


lukebandit
I wish Jon would drink lite beer

Lillie Mae Acres said...

Oh how awful. A single mom having to clothe all those children at her own expense and all those expensive school supplies. Oh my, what's a single mom to do! No help from the outside, no husband, no way to make money other than sell her kids and pose nearly naked. Poor Kate, if only she could get a lot of money hungry companies to donate stuff to her!

Ohio Buckeye said...

The last hair cut I recall, Cara wanted to let her hair grow longer, but Little Miss Can't Be Wrong forced her to get her bangs cut - a sort of punishment for failing to keep her hair out of her eyes.

For Hannah, who wanted to get her hair cut shorter (despite her mother's claim that Hannah loves her long hair and is so particular about keeping it), Miss Must Control allowed only a small trim of the ends of Hannah's hair, and then seemed so pleased with herself for making that decision, telling Hannah her hair is 'gorgeoso".

I think we can add 'oppositional' to the list of descriptors of K8G.

That ws the last haircut I watched the Gosselin kids endure - I feel very sorry for kids who are not even allowed to decide a small, reasonable, and very personal thing like the length of their hair.

Elizabeth said...

Kids get haircuts yet again. Third or fourth time we get the joy of seeing the Gosselins fuss their way through this? TLC we can see kids gets cut every weekend at Supercuts. Time to move on.

Oh, and they buy shoes by closing yet another shoe store to the public during prime back to school shopping. We've seen that before and again the local Stride Rite has this going on every weekend. Time for new material again TLC.

School supplies? Surely not. Target and Wal-Mart provide this completely common activity regularly also.

My hope at this point is that this is blessedly the last episode. The episodes almost all look like repeats at this point.

Out of new ideas and running out of viewers, it's time to let it go peacefully into the night.

fidosmommy said...

Ohio Buckeye said...
The last hair cut I recall, Cara wanted to let her hair grow longer, but Little Miss Can't Be Wrong forced her to get her bangs cut - a sort of punishment for failing to keep her hair out of her eyes.

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How hilariously Katish, since Kate seems to have the exact same problem with her own mop of hair flopping over her face. Ahd she thinks it's edgy and stylish. When she had the short cut, that one sides was forever being held out of the way with her hand or falling over her right eye. Now, unless she has her hair pulled back with a headband or sprayed with glue, it still flops in her face. Notice the couch segments of the latest episode. How much hairspray did it take to keep that hair in place? It looked like a helmet.

Maybe we should have an episode on The Kids Get Garden Clippers. Or Sheep Shearers. I'd watch that.

Ohio Buckeye said...

@Fido's Mommy: Sheep Shearers! That made me LOL!

Remember, too, that godawful coif K8G had - someone called it her 'angry lesbian 'do' - it had that big flap of hair that always hung over her face and eye, yet K8G publically criticized Cara on tv for failing to keep hair out of her eyes and punished her by making her get her hair cut shorter.

Just another example of narcissistic K8G's 'do as I say, not as I do'.

You really have to wonder about the genesis of control issues as extreme as K8G's.

Can't See Sheep said...

@Ohio Buckeye, exactly, not allowed to decide something as simple as the length of their hair. It's not like they're asking for mohawks or swear words shaved in their hair, they just want their hair a different length for crying out loud. Some of these kids are going to chafe something fierce under this level of control & probably rebel, while other's could be as bad as not being able to decide for themselves & always having to ask kate or one of the twins or someone. I mean the one boy really did freak out when he got a bit of dirt on him out when Jon was golfing, so it's not like kate's controlling behavior isn't causing problems with them & if that's the resulting behavior that makes it on the show, then what's not making the cut.

If Hannah actually had severe migrains then they should have let her get it shorter like she wanted. It doesn't work for everyone, but it's always worth a try if you suffer from terrible migraines.

In the end if Hannah really wants her hair cut she should do what a lot of young children do & cut a huge chunk of her hair off herself as near to the scalp as she can get it. Kids always manage to somehow do this with those horribly dull craft scissors they're given. Never fails, every year in the class pics you can see the kids who've attempted hairstyling for the first time & their hair ends up being extremly short. The mom's are worried how their school pics will come out because this isn't their normal haircut & you can still sorta see where the chunk is missing because they cut their hair SO short. You mom's know exactly what I'm talking about. Sometimes a front tooth is missing as well.

Tami said...

I'm sure she was contractually (sp?) obligated to show haircuts yet again after getting yet another sucker to keep on providing free haircuts for them when the birth to 5 years ones ran out :::yawn:::

Ohio Buckeye said...

@Can'tSeeSheep: Exactly!

I am guessing Hannah's long Asian hair is part of the Gosselin brand that K8 is unwilling to risk changing.

How sad that a 6 year old is already part of a brand.

fidosmommy said...

I've said it here many times before. Kate once said that she kept the girls' hair different lengths so when she was busy she could tell which girl she was dealing with without having to look in the child's face.

I guess now she has to look to know who's who. Imagine that.

Pony said...

What a great idea, Can't See Sheep! Failing cutting her own hair, surely Hannah has a sibling who is willing to try his/her hand at hairstyling. I believe it's another childhood tradition.

JoyinVirginia said...

Back to school? I am so thrilled... NOT! I just spent the weekend volunteering with school band activities, hemming uniforms and baking a cake for the kids to snack on and carpooling to help get a real orphan being raised by grandma back and forth to practice and performance, being the pit crew, sitting in the stands at football game cheering everyone on. Did I mention I HATE football? Don't understand it as much as I try. Did I mention I have to be at football games in order to be a good band mom? Try that kinda sacrifice, Ms. Kreider! It is MUCH harder keeping up with kids and their activities in middle and high school, she just has no idea.

Monday there is just so much more good stuff on: the new Dancing With The Stars with The Situation!, a new Hoarders, New How I Met Your Mother. Monday night I will be watching Hawaii 5-0 at 10 pm with some of my fave Sci-Fi actors! Daniel Dae Kim from Lost, Grace Park from Battlestar Galactica, Masi Oka from Heroes as a medical examiner, and of course Steve McGarrett himself, Alex O'Loughlin who was a very sexy vampire in Moonlight a few years back. Jean Smart will play the Governor! She was terrific in 24 as the nutty first lady, I loved it when they finally let her shoot someone on that show. Maybe she will get to shoot someone on this show!

Look at the car McGarrett drives - it is the SAME black 1974 Mercury Marquis that Jack Lord drove in the original! Trivia sources say it was bought by a stuntman on the show, who is now loaning it to the remake.

I repeat - Back to School? Really, TLC? REALLY!? Kindergarten?
Boring.

Blogher said...

Doesn't Monday start the new season for network tv?

Hopefully, people were just watching the Kate show out of boredom and will stop now that we have good tv again...

mama mia said...

I am watching DWTS! Hope the sheeple enjoy their Katie Irene while this show lasts. Maybe on this episode whe'll give a shout out to her 20 loyal grandmother fans.

pinkdiamond611 said...

The only ones who will watch the episode are the lonely people without internet who still think the show is "real", and think of the children as their own relatives. I hope Little People beats the Kart again.

NoUse4Kate said...

I think it does Blogher. I know House starts tomorrow and I cannot wait! :)

JoyinVirginia, I hear you! While my daughter isn't in band, she is the artsy one in school and helps in the Thespian Club with set design, makeup artist etc. Wednesday nights her friends crash our house for dinner, then I drive them over to youth group and then drop everyone off at their house and no one lives near each other. I drive my kids to and from school, drive, drive, drive. You feel like a taxi cab driver sometimes, BUT the flip side to that is the priceless conversations you have with your kids, the opportunities you have to use things that they tell you about as a tool to teach them lessons about life, how to deal with things, etc. I wouldn't trade it for the world.

I don't think k8 really comprehends what joy and peace she could find if she would just recognize those little kids for the miracles that they are. More money, more vacations, more sponsorships aren't what is going to bring her happiness, it is what is directly in front of her and she fails to see it. Unfortunately, even if she did realize it today, I think the damage is done, especially with the twins. They are far too old and too smart and they have it figured out and k8 would really have to work her butt off to regain trust with them, and for them to allow her that closeness that there is no way she can have right now with what she does. The little ones, would probably be more forgiving, but they are old enough to remember what has happened, I remember things from my childhood at that age that I really wish I could forget, but you can't.

Anyway, I wish those precious 8 little children had a better mother, it's really sad when you think about their childhood. I hope that they can at least grab onto what is left of it and that k8 wakes up and does the right thing by them, but unfortunately I don't see her ever waking up to the reality of her situation. :( Jon screwed up after the divorce but when he's been with the kids you could see a genuine love for them. I hope that somehow, someway, he is more involved in their lives because they are going to need at least one parent that they can totally rely on as they grow into the teen years and beyond. Such a sad story, but for the 8 I hope that somehow they can have a happy ending.

Tami said...

Monday there is just so much more good stuff on: the new Dancing With The Stars with The Situation!, a new Hoarders, New How I Met Your Mother.
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They also switched 90210 to Mondays, which we watch. And I had wanted to start watching that new show Mike and Molly, but that's out of the question with DWTS, 90210 and having to be at a soccer game in another town at that time anyway. Maybe her ratings will go waaaaay down this week.

khate is a losee said...

Are those SIX YEAR OLDS still sitting in the high chairs?? I couldn't tell from the preview?

Also, someone please notice Khate"s nose!? Something is different about it, right? Am I the only one who noticed??

zoey said...

this show this season is the SAME as last season. so far, every episode it a repeat of last year.
what next? remarry Jon in Hawaii only to divorce him a few episodes later?

N.E. Psychologist said...

@Ohio Buckeye: How sad that a 6 year old is already part of a brand.
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As far as Kate is concerned, these kids have been a brand since they were born. Sigh............

Lynnie said...

pinkdiamond611 said...
The only ones who will watch the episode are the lonely people without internet who still think the show is "real", and think of the children as their own relatives. I hope Little People beats the Kart again.

9/19/2010 6:28 AM




I have a "sort of" friend who is a shut-in. She hasn't left her home in about 10 years because of agoraphobia. She also has a child about the age of Mady and Cara. She showed me an email she wrote to Kate about 2 years ago, in which she just oooohed an awwwwwed over Kate and told her how wonderful she is and what a great mother she is. She told her that she lived vicarioulsy through her since she doesn't leave her home. She BEGGED Kate to write her back and BEGGED Kate to have Mady and Cara write to her daughter ( she didn't ). It was really sickening. You'd think this 34 year old woman was 11.

I asked her why she thought Kate was a good mother and pointed out the nagging and berating, and things like Gumgate. She said she didn't care about that stuff, she only cared about the trips they went on. She wasn't able to take her daughter anywhere, so they sat and watched Kate's trips and pretended they went, too.

It was sooooo bizarre. Really twisted. But these are the kinds of fans Kate has. They don't have their own lives, so they worship hers.

Oh, and it's funny that you said people think the show is real. She absolutely thinks the show is real. And, she included in her email to Kate that her daughter thinks of the kids as her "cousins". How pathetic is that? She wanted Mady and Cara to be pen pals with her daughter.

Wow. Just wow.

Jane in CA said...

Look at the car McGarrett drives - it is the SAME black 1974 Mercury Marquis that Jack Lord drove in the original! Trivia sources say it was bought by a stuntman on the show, who is now loaning it to the remake.
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The theme from Hawaii Five-O is running through my head. My oh my, Jack Lord was quite a good looking man in his day.

Kate Plus 8 is up against some formidable competition - let's see those ratings fall through the floor!

From all descriptions, sounds like a dull as dishwater episode. Kids getting their hair cut? Shopping for shoes and school supplies? I don't need to watch a tv show about an entitled woman shutting down an entire store so her brood can get new shoes. I did the haircut, shoe shopping, supply shopping with my own kid for pete's sake. Why would I want to tune in to watch 8 sad kids dressed in matching clothing be dragged around by their tramp of a mom?

Jane in CA said...

Lynnie said:
I asked her why she thought Kate was a good mother and pointed out the nagging and berating, and things like Gumgate. She said she didn't care about that stuff, she only cared about the trips they went on. She wasn't able to take her daughter anywhere, so they sat and watched Kat
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The story about your shut in friend was very sad. This is why I really don't agree with reality tv shows that feature minor children. Because some people do actually start thinking of this family of strangers, as if they know them personally. Like your friend, they'll write and ask that the kids write back, or wave hello to them on the show, or any other number of things that are so completely inappropriate!

Would you go up to a stranger on the street, and ask them to have their children write to you or your children? Wave hello to you? Of course not, but because these kids are on a television show, the lines get blurred too easily.

I would never expose my child to this kind of fame. There are too many every day dangers out there that I have to watch out for, and I don't want to add unbalanced stalker fans to the list. (I don't mean that your friend is unbalanced - I meant that there are certainly rabid fans out there who are definitely on the scary/stalker side)

Jane in CA said...

Lillie Mae Acres said...
Oh how awful. A single mom having to clothe all those children at her own expense and all those expensive school supplies. Oh my, what's a single mom to do!
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All the real single mamas go: STFU Kate! It's called living on a budget and planning ahead, and not insisting on having the most expensive of everything.

The poor single mom persona is so fake -- how many of us struggling moms, single or otherwise, cry about bills and clothing our kids, then head off to Bald Head, then later on to Mexico for a week?

Alice Bluegown said...

The story about your shut in friend was very sad. This is why I really don't agree with reality tv shows that feature minor children. Because some people do actually start thinking of this family of strangers, as if they know them personally. Like your friend, they'll write and ask that the kids write back, or wave hello to them on the show, or any other number of things that are so completely inappropriate!
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That is so true. There are certain people who are sort of "addicted" to those shows.

I have a sister who lives through one of the shopping channels. When people buy things and call in when they want to tell others how much they like the product, that really puts her in motion. She has ordered so many things that they had to take out a LOAN to pay her bill.

She said the other shoppers and the hosts of the shows are just like family to her. How tragic.

There is a sweet little widow who begs people to come visit. When we get there we have to sit there quietly so she doesn't miss her "shows!" Why do we bother?

There are absolutely people like that who are living vicariously through Kate. They buy her clothes, her sunglasses, etc, and try to go on the same trips she goes on.

There was a mature-looking woman at one of Kate's book signings whose hair was similar to Kate's old "flap-do." She said it was almost like Kate's, but she was absolutely GIDDY from being that close to Kate. This woman may have been in her late 40s or early 50s. She was really, truly pathetic.

bonehead said...

Did you guys not know, Kate can not have any one of the tups looking different from the others. They are a set, unit, team, clones. They have to do everything, alike, cause they were born on the same day by the same mother. Kate does not want individuals.(too hard to handle) Where as Jon lets them be kids and individuals. And from the clip I saw on that entertainment show, Kate was being a complete DRAMA QUEEN , because one kid, wanted to be an individual. I hope mondays episode tanks some more. Oh, yeah, I was at t2 of the grocery stores in the Chicago area and the rack was full of People mag, it looks as if they are not selling.

Canadian Mom said...

"I would never expose my child to this kind of fame. There are too many every day dangers out there that I have to watch out for, and I don't want to add unbalanced stalker fans to the list."...

Amen Jane in Ca!!

My son just turned 15(!) and is going to the mall and the movies (along with his friends) and altho my city is moderately small(ish), it's hard to let go...

How will the Gosselin kids ever have a normal teenage life like going to the mall with their friends without even more heightened fear?

(I guess I'm assuming Kate would even care, even tho I know she does not)

I also wonder if 'TLC' is a 'safe-to-watch' channel in their house, since their show is on it...do the kids watch all the wierd shows like "Freaky Eater" and my personal FAVE..."Hoarding: Buried Alive" which was completely ripped off of A&E's "Hoarders" (can't get enough of these sail-cats and poo mountains)...

Thank you hoarding people, my house is spotless!!

CO Honey said...

I yawned just reading that description. Seriously, how boring. Why would I watch that? Anyway, Monday nights are for watching "Chuck!" (One of my favorite shows.) Why would I waste time watching kids get haircuts?

Second Verse Same As The First said...

"Why would I waste time watching kids get haircuts?"

LOL! I don't even like taking my own kids to get haircuts. I sit and wait with them and watch other kids getting their hair cut until the stylist is ready for us. Why would I want to sit at home and watch the same thing on television?

TLC has really grasped at straws in coming up with episodes. We've seen it all, and we weren't impressed the first time. Why would it be any different this time around?

Hippie Chick said...

I can't believe that TLC dedicated a TV show to haircuts and clothes shopping. How boring. It was boring when I did it in real life and lived through it, why would I want to sit through it & watch some family that I do not know, a woman that I frankly cannot stand looking at, do the same thing? This is what I call jumping the shark.

TLC & Kate are really scraping the bottom of the barrel. If people tune into this trite, boring home movie, I will have to scream. I am hoping, because all these great new shows are either returning or starting, plus Monday Night Football, that Kate+8 sees her fan base go way downhill. It just blows my mind that Kate still thinks that people want to tune into her kids going through the SAME thing that viewers have seen time & time again. It's been played. Move on TLC. As a matter of fact, isn't it time that TLC maybe changes up its whole format? Large families & the like? It's no longer a miracle. And Kate, you are no longer "special" because you did it.

Vanessa said...

She's probably keeping Hannie's hair to sell on Ebay.

Pattypanda said...

I saw a preview while watching Hoarders last night. Looks like the kids are still in high chairs, they definitely weren't in the ladder back chairs that Mady and Cara are in. Looks like plastic cups still, if not sippy or cups w/ straws. Are they going to be babied forever. I beg Jon at least has some real glasses.

Lesley said...

I'm almost afraid to ask but, when does the Alaska episode/footage air? They went over labor day, right?

Anyway, haircuts, meh. Just another excuse for more needless drama.

Jane in California said...

Canadian Mom said:
My son just turned 15(!) and is going to the mall and the movies (along with his friends) and altho my city is moderately small(ish), it's hard to let go...

How will the Gosselin kids ever have a normal teenage life like going to the mall with their friends without even more heightened fear?
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It is hard to let go - I feel for you. But at least our children don't have millions of people who might easily recognize them, call out their name, or ask them for autographs, etc.

I think the closest the Gosselin kids get to normal is the time they spend with Jon. But as they hit their teen years, I think it will get harder to deal with strangers who think they know them, want to strike up conversations, etc. If they were my kids, I would be very concerned.

BMWoP said...

Lesley said...
I'm almost afraid to ask but, when does the Alaska episode/footage air? They went over labor day, right?


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It supposedly was filmed for Palin's new show that starts in November. That is, if they choose to show it and didn't chunk it in the garbage.

Kit said...

Good grief, haircuts again?! I'm so sick of these people. I haven't watched an episode in months and don't plan on it tonight. It will be more interesting watching Bristol Palin on Dancing with the Stars, and that ain't sayin' much!

CityGirl said...

I remember when they put "Kate's dancing shoes" for sale for some charity event. I believe they were a size 5 ? I never thought her feet looked to be a size 5. Well, in the store Kate picked herself some shoes to try on and asked for size 8.5 or 9
Now I wonder if who ever put those shoes up for bid in a 5 were lying about those even being Kates? That would be very unkind to the buyer of those shoes who was probably a MAJOR kate fan. And would have never even bid otherwise. Very strange.

cossysmom said...

1. have her boobs gotten even BIGGER??

2. What in the world is her obsession with Hannah's hair?? She has four other girls with beautiful hair. What is so special about Hannah's??

3. She said something to the effect of a woman customer rolling her eyes at her kids while they were shopping--like the woman was out of line for doing so. Does it ever occur to her that she should teach her children how to behave in public. (oh, that's right, I forgot they don't have to because she has 8, count em,8!)

4. The woman at Boscov's was very gracious to allow the kids to play with the huge croc. Why, oh why, did Kate not put a stop to their obnoxious behavior with it??? It is NOT A TOY, it is a promotional item that is to be on DISPLAY. I would never even think of letting my son play with something like that.

5. that ridiculous pink top she had on!!! need I say more???

Sharla said...

Kate's dancing shoes were European sizing.

fidosmommy said...

Is there really going to be something to recap? Kate takes the kids shopping with a camera crew in tow. Compare to last year's version of the exact same thing, even the same stores. The kids get haircuts, exactly the same way and in exactly the same shop they got it cut last year. Dig up the YouTubes from 2009 and see it there! Kate shreiks, Kate
talks to the camera, Kate over-emotes, Kate exaggerates, Kate does not acknowledge the helpers she has with her, Kate treats her kids like they are puppets to be herded around at her pace and for her purposes. Just like last year.

What exactly will there be to recap? I'm sure a terrific writer will come up with some very entertaining way to do it, but it will indeed be creating something out of nothing.

h84kate said...

CityGirl said...

I remember when they put "Kate's dancing shoes" for sale for some charity event....

After getting eliminated from DWTS, Kate and Tony were interviewed on Jimmy Kimmel. At the end of the program he tossed her dancing shoes in a flaming barrel and she looks horrified. Dunno if they were the actual shoes or it was a ceremonial burning. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb9FoDquV1I

~*Jess*~ said...

Wasn't this just last years episode with a new date on it? I swear I thought the tups already went to kindergarten. Shouldn't they be in 1st grade by now?

Can't See Sheep said...

cossysmom said...
3. She said something to the effect of a woman customer rolling her eyes at her kids while they were shopping--like the woman was out of line for doing so. Does it ever occur to her that she should teach her children how to behave in public. (oh, that's right, I forgot they don't have to because she has 8, count em,8!)
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That's right, because her children are special, they are served on golden platters. Their life is paid for by other people & I wouldn't be suprised if she wasn't bothered at all about them wrecking other people's "property", especially when they're older. That's all this world needs is more entitled children who will grow up into selfish, self-centered adults with entitlement issues.

watchdog said...

"that ridiculous pink top she had on!!! need I say more???"

How about the tube-top/dress she was wearing while pretending to make the kids' lunches? Her boobs were hanging down around her waist!

Then there was the little black and white number she was wearing during the shopping trip and the turquoise top during the couch sessions. They should change the name of the show to Kate's 2+8 or just Kate's Girls since we know icky boys don't count, and that would include the 7 girls.

HW said...

I watched part of the show ver late last night because I couldn't sleep; TLC (Totally Lacking Character) was rerunning it.

I was appalled at the kids' behavior in that store. Those kids go lots of places that other kids never get to go and they still do not know how to behavie in public. Kate has completely neglected her duties in that regard as well. Of course a woman in the shoe department was offended! The kids were rude and obnoxious, but of course she was oblivious to that. Just as Kate would love to shope in peace and enjoy herself; so would other shoppers. She told the camera the kids had never been to a department store before. Shoppers everywhere are thanking her.

When Kate bought herself some shoes at that store, she did herself no favors as far as continuing her poor single mother act. I love to buy shoes too, but to be able to buy herself two pair of nice shoes after outfitting 8 children for school? Most moms don't get to do that. I think that was a case of poor impulse control and also wanting attention for herself.

Jill said...

I cannot believe that she is still making those children sit in highchairs! I have four children ages 13 and under and none of them needed more than a booster seat past age four.
I also cnnot believe the way she speaks to her children in public. Khate speaks for the camera, not her children. Everything she says is to the camera. Imagine how the children feel. The whole "you may choose a color then line" with a glance at the camera is so sad.
Imagine how embarassed these kids are of their mother.
Normal children are mortified by their parents if they dress differently or make a scene in public. Their mother dresses like she is about to start her shift at Scores.

PattyWIthNoPity said...

Just watched this on Youtube with the volume off..!

1. Kate's lack of self-awareness extends to her not knowing her proper clothing size.

2. The kids are annoying banshees in public; even with the sound off. Kate has never taught those kids proper behavior because she doesn't know what it is.

3. She walks like a constipated cow in her gladiator spike heels.

4. Sticky notes inside her fridge.
And what looks to be dozens of
storebought eggs; chicken coop
must not be workin' out.

5. Sure looks like a couple of
wine BOXES in her fridge...

6. The whole HannahHair thing
was bizarre. And Kate's weave
looks like a dishrag...

itiswhatitis said...

I was appalled at the kids' behavior in that store. Those kids go lots of places that other kids never get to go and they still do not know how to behavie in public.

Just because the Gosselin 8 have NEVER been in a department store doesnt excuse their poor behavior. The Gosselin 8 have traveled to and been to MANY MANY places and the rules of 'good behavior' should be routine and consistently expected of them every where they go. Regardless if it is their first time being in a department store. IF it was their first time being in a department store, Kate SHOULD have explained to them that they are expected to be on the SAME behavior they are when visiting places they are familiar with!!

She'saPistol said...

Someone needs to cancel Kate's Frederick's of Hollywood account! I'd be so embarrassed to be her child and have her show up at my school.

redrivergrl said...

I tell myself I'm not going to watch and most of the time I delete it before I can get through the episode. There is nothing interesting about Kate and this show is all about Kate. She's always in high wedge shoes and low cut blouses. What a piece of work. I would be curious to know the ratings of this show. There is nothing about this woman that I like or admire. She is the most self centered person I think on television and she (or they) can't disguise it. I hope she goes down in flames. Beth Carson must be horrified when she watches what this family has become.

couch potato said...

The kids are okay in the high chairs, and okay left back a year in school. What the heck? They are only going to graduate from school and go to work. Ooops! I guess they are already working. It's okay. They were preemies. They are small for their age. I would rather see them in chairs and a classroom appropriate for their development, size and statue. They are developing just fine, except their mother is too self-absorbed to get them speech therapy, occupational therapy, and manners in the store. If there is a next year with this terrible awful TLC show, it would might make more sense for Jon to take some of the kids shopping while Kates takes some of them for a haircut, and then switch off.

Heck, my husband and I just raised two kids and we split them up a lot. He would take one kid to one activity, and I would take one another direction.

I would just like to puke all over Kate and her "I do it all myself".
Why take all 8 kids for shoes shopping? Why not leave some kids home with the Not-a-Nanny?

I just gave my single daughter two large bags of winter clothing for her twins. I got them last spring at Target and Walmart at over 75% off. Some of them I bought at the thrift shop. My aim is $1.00 to $2.00 per top, and $3 or $4 for adjustable waist jeans (which if one adjusts the waist, the jeans can last a couple years. Just roll up the cuffs to start out. I got two winter robes for $4 each, and two lightweight coats for $6 each -- brand new. I got a velvet dress at the thrift shop for 50 cents, and I put it in my dryer with the do-it-yourself dry cleaning kit. I got another velvet dress for 50 cents, and I will be turning it from long sleeves to short sleeves because there is a burn from an iron on one of the sleeves. I would much rather see how someone economizes on a tight budget. By the way, even though they didn't pick anything out, my daughter and the twins were delighted and grateful for the clothes. I listen to them and get them the colors and styles they like. The girls pick out their own clothes every day. They don't usually match. Their robes and jackets will be the same only because I got them on clearance and there was only one option at those great prices.
Too bad the Gosselin children aren't allowed to have their grandparents help out. I guess their grandparents just don't know how to help them.
It's so not reality!

Vanessa said...

Did she say the kids have never been in a dept. store???? They've been to Target many times (although most pap shots are of just her) they've been to KMART (remember the St-Jude's episode?)
They've been to GIANT, and Toys-r-US (although not a true dept. store) What's she smoking?

Vanessa said...

Her kids behave that way because she's a LAZY PARENT! She's also trying way too hard to portray this much more "relaxed" kate..."see everyone, I'm not as wound up as I used to be!"
Didn't watch, but during LPBW they were showing clips. Someone tell me, WHY was she screaming like a banshee THIS time? She's out by the house with something in her hand and she's doing her Carol Burnette Tarzan call!

Dollop of Daisy said...

I wanna high five the lady customer who scowled at them when they were running rampant in the department store. Kate was just appalled that there was somebody who didn't swoon over them and who wasn't impressed with seeing them.

And man-o-man, she was showing some serious boobage in this episode. There is NO WAY those knockers are real.


All in all, it was just another 30 minutes of watching a mother discipline her kids publicly, and show favoritism to a certain one.

Before I get smacked for watching, I was watching Little People at 11pm and intended to go to bed afterwards. Fell asleep on the couch and woke up to K8 screeching. That voice is soooo irritating.

2Much Cleavage said...

Cleavage here, cleavage there, cleavage everywhere!

The camera man must have had a hard time focusing on the kids when K8's boobs were popping out all over the place, especially at the Stride Rite store and during the confessionals.

My husband noticed a little too much.

Geez, this woman has no sense of decency. Can we pleeeeeeeze yank her off television now???

NanaJen said...

cossysmom said:
4. The woman at Boscov's was very gracious to allow the kids to play with the huge croc. Why, oh why, did Kate not put a stop to their obnoxious behavior with it??? It is NOT A TOY, it is a promotional item that is to be on DISPLAY. I would never even think of letting my son play with something like that.

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IMO this was all part of product placement. Always is isn't it? These children were "allowed" to obnoxiously "play" with the display. I recall these overworked children have been wearing Crocs since they could walk. (Insert eye roll) Crocs given to them year after year as part of product placement. (ugh...sigh)

do as I say, not as I do said...

Kate let her kids act like drunken monkeys playing with that large Croc (can you say product placement?), risking destruction of property and annoying other customers. She let it go on and on. Why? So she could buy shoes for herself. Gotta love Mady for telling Kate that the shoes made her feet look wrinkly...maybe loose skin from lipo? Who has wrinkly feet at that age? Despite the obnoxious, disruptive craziness in the shoe department, she has the nerve to yell at and punish Alexis for screaming!! Who do you think the kid learned that from? Why did Alexis scream? Because Mady threatened to hit her (but didn't). So both Mady and Alexis had to stand apart from the group, singled out and embarrassed, for 1. not hitting her sibling (Mady) and 2. for screaming that she might be hit (Alexis). Mady started to protest but figured it wasnt worth it. Kate yelled at them loudly for nothing in public, on camera, for the cameras. To show she's a good mom? Fail. To show she's a good disciplinarian? Fail. Oh, I feel so sorry for those kids. They live a miserable life with her. No wonder they love Jon so much.. it must be just such a relief to be free from her, if only for a few days.

Berks Has Shoes! said...

"Did she say the kids have never been in a dept. store???? They've been to Target many times (although most pap shots are of just her) they've been to KMART (remember the St-Jude's episode?)
They've been to GIANT, and Toys-r-US (although not a true dept. store) What's she smoking?"

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I don't know, but I want some of it. I've seen them at the Berkshire Mall, and there is no way that those kids haven't been in one of the department stores there, Boscovs, Bon-Ton, Sears, etc., although maybe not all of them at the same time.

Wild Thing said...

"Kate SHOULD have explained to them that they are expected to be on the SAME behavior they are when visiting places they are familiar with!!"

Do you mean like the kids' furniture store? Remember that fiasco? They don't behave in stores because they've never been taught to behave in stores. They've never been taught to respect other people's property. Remember the vacation home last year? Kate said they were allowed to do things there that they weren't allowed to do at home because it wasn't their home.

UGH! said...

“cossysmom said... She said something to the effect of a woman customer rolling her eyes at her kids while they were shopping. “

Ever occur to Kate that perhaps the lady was annoyed at the commotion of an entire crew taking over the place with cameras, staff, light fixtures, boom-mikes, and basically taking over the whole place and probably asking her to move her own self/kids away so they could shoot on what might have been the 30 minutes she has to shop all week for having A REAL LIFE to tend to? Nah. Easier to accuse others of disliking small children altogether. And by the way: Any “single moms who do it all alone” like Kate on this blog who have the luxury of letting their kids run waaaaaaay out of their sight when shopping?

Anyone else feel the kids’ confusion when she’d ask them all a question while making lunches and then rage for them to “STOP TALKING!”? I thought she was kidding at first, but not the second time. WTH? Ask them questions individually or make them raise their hands. What else are they supposed to do when you just shoot the questions to the group? They actually seemed hurt, not just confused. She yells way too much.

Snap! said...

I haven't watched Kate and her gang for a while. I saw the first part of this episode. I noticed a few things: Kate dresses so sexy now! She looks like she is going out to a bar, not spending the day with her kids. Kate still spoils Hannah.
The boys speak much more clearly but still have a sadness about them. I thought Kate was much more of a diva. The only thing that was positive- Kate seems to lose her temper less-she's less scary but is still Kate. I'm thinking she is trying to impress someone-who knows what she is like when they are alone. The few minutes I saw was enough to last me the year.

WonderButton said...

About the air time/placement of this episode in the TLC lineup....

1) it was a paultry half-hour show, and the previous episodes this season were hour longs

2) it was sandwhiched between LPBW and the new quints show

And an insight from a comcast subscriber....

Kate + 8 on demand has only the 1st 4 episodes this season, and they are expiring on 9/26. Looks like the vomit-fest and subsequent episodes won't be added to the on demand selections.

Bye-bye, Kate! Now you're going to learn first-hand why you should always be nice to people on the way up......what a sad, lonely slide it's going to be for you.

Anonymous said...

I'm one of the brave few still supporting Kate. However, TLC will have to do more than feature a shoe-shopping trip and a visit to get the kids' hair cut if it wants to keep an audience. I guess with the kids now in school they can't very well go to a pumpkin patch in the middle of the day anymore. Maybe the show has run its course.

Brent's Girl said...

Where do I begin? So many things bothered me in this episode:
- In the department store, one of the boys excitedly begins to talk to Kate about getting to explore all around the store. Kate just ignores him and starts to talk to the camera about the exact same issue. Why can't she carry on conversations with her kids instead of the cameraman?
- One of the older girls wanted to wear boots on the first day. Of course, Kate said no. What's the harm? Poor kid.
- Maddy didn't want a lunch box this year. She wanted to just pack her lunch in a brown paper bag. Again, Kate said no. If it was for environmental reasons, I might give Kate the benefit of the doubt, but we know that isn't the case.
- What mom allows her 8 kids to run around a store carrying an oversized display, that could easily break something or bang into another shopper?
- When the shoe salesman brought out Kate's shoes, tactless and unaware-of-oneself Kate rudely redirects her with a nasty tone and, of course, no polite eye-contact. Is she unable to communicate respectfully with anyone?
- The whole asking questions during lunch prep, and then the minute the kids begin to answer quickly telling (yelling at) the kids to be quiet - twice.
- Overall, the first day of school is supposed to be a fun time, a time for kids to express their individuality, a time to reunite with their friends. Kate turns it into non-stop rules about food (what, when, etc.), shoes (no boots), bookbags (no lizards if you're a girl), etc. I would go absolutely bonkers in her home. Rebellion is definitely on the horizon.
-Oh, by the way, I have three kids ages 15-20. They wore whatever they wanted the first day, even if I didn't like it or think it matched. And they wore their new school shoes home from the shoe store. If they got their socks mixed up with a sibling, so what. (Who labels socks?) If they wanted the same bookbag/folder/lunchbox as a sibling, I trusted them to remember how to distinguish whose was whose. Kate could save herself much sighing and whining and her kids much rebelling if she would just sit back, take a good look at her wonderful kids, and ENJOY THEM!!! Motherhood really is fun if you let it be!

Hippie Chick said...

I want to congratulate the people that DIDN'T watch and stayed away from this fiasco this week!!

BYOB said...

The green blouse that she wore while on the couch was very plunging! Most women even in their 20's would choose to wear a cami under that.

DoesThisBraMakeMyBoobsLookReal said...

Since the Gosselins chose to turn their family into a 'brand', does that mean it could be recalled? Oh, if it were only this easy....

RECALL NOTICE
A recall of ALL Gosselin Brand products has been issued effective immediately. Extensive studies have determined that products marketed under this brand contain toxic levels of contamination. This contamination exceeds all acceptable standards for consumption. These toxins include narcissism, child exploitation, overexposure, fabrication, greed, and numerous compulsive behaviors.

Studies found exposure caused otherwise healthy individuals to develop a disorder known as KATEMAKESMEMENTALITIS. This disorder, marked by a spike of overwhelming feelings of sadness, confusion, disgust, and anger were reported after just 10 minutes of exposure to the Gosselin brand.
KATEMAKESMEMENTALITIS poses a significant mental health and safety risk to the public, prompting this recall.
Products covered under this recall include, but are not limited to,
Episodes of Jon and Kate plus 8, Kate plus 8, Kate plus Kate, Dancing with the Stars 10, Lady Gaga's Paparazzi, All books claiming to be authored by Kate Gosselin, People magazine, Monkey munch, Grandmawl soup, Breast implants disguised by a good bra, Airbrushed abdominal muscles, and using Ummm to begin a sentence.

With discontinued use, most damage is likely reversible. Further studies are pending. KATEMAKESMEMENTALITIS is believed to be behind the recent decline in consumption of the once popular brand.
The Center for Realist Reality Disease Control is optimistic that this recall will propel KATEMAKESMEMENTALITIS into extinction.

HW said...

I think Kate's response to the Toys R Us episdode - where she treated Jon like a dog - tells us why Kate's kids behave the way they do. Remember how Kate said "I don't notice people?" Well, if she doesn't notice that her own behavior is offensive she certainly isn't going to notice that her kids' behavior is offensive. She is going to release 8 obnoxious and rude young adults into society because she couln't be bothered to teach them how to socialize properly.

I do believe their behavior is NOT their fault, but they will soon be past the age where people continue blaming their upbringing for their atrocious behavior.

Mary said...

I didn't watch, there was a football game and DWTS on. Why would anyone really want to watch when there are so many other great shows on? When I go out shopping I get annoyed when mothers don't at least make the effort to make their children behave. Why watch it on tv? I have my own set of boobs. I can always take my shirt off and admire them in a mirror, why watch Kate's trying to escape out of whatever not-a-top she has on at that moment?

I wish Jon would drink lite beer... said...

what blew me away was kate picking up those tennis shoes with velcro and telling the kids that they had to wear the velcros another year!

WOEIWWH?

she is soooooooo lazy, she could of took a little time during this past summer to teach them to tie their shoes. she is a nut.


also, she went over to the backpacks and said pick you one out with a lunch bag. and one of the tup girls said oh, i want this one, and kate said NO, it has a lizard on it, you are a girl!

WOEIWWH?
she does not intend to let those kids make any small decisions by themselves, it is small to adults and it is huge to small kids!
she also showed her arse when she made the kids sit on the floor, and i heard one of the boys say, on the floor? those kids were so miserable in that store. and i agree about them playing with the croc display. inappropriate and the kids are out of control.

WOEIWWH? what on earth is wrong with her

lukebandit

Can't See Sheep said...

Brent's Girl said...
Why can't she carry on conversations with her kids instead of the cameraman?
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You know, I think if the chidlren were holding cameras she'd talk to them non-stop. She'd probably even follow them around & pay all kinds of attention to them. She was all weird & paid all kinds of attention to that lone standing camera that filmed she & Jon on that Christmas when they were young & living together.

UGH! said...
Ask them questions individually or make them raise their hands. What else are they supposed to do when you just shoot the questions to the group? They actually seemed hurt, not just confused.
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She really doesn't get that her kids are individuals & not a herd.

couch potato said...
If there is a next year with this terrible awful TLC show, it would might make more sense for Jon to take some of the kids shopping while Kates takes some of them for a haircut, and then switch off.
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You know, I bet they don't behave as badly when they're with Jon in public. Kids are smart they know exatly what they can get away with with eat parent & other people. They know if they're with grandma they can go this far & with dad only that far. I have seen kids behave like perfect angels for one parent & like wild monkeys with no manners whatsoever with the other.

I don't think kate wants to share the camera crew with Jon, its' HER show. I agree they should do that with the kids, it would make more sense for them to do that whether or not their was a show, but I don't think kate wants to share the children with Jon & probably doesn't want him in the store or the mall when she's there either. She probably doens't really want him in the same town. She's selfish & childish like that.

Susan said...

There is plenty to criticize Kate about.

Kate said in the show that she was keeping half of Hannah's hair and donating the rest to Locks of Love. The first comment on this post says that they did not donate the hair. They did not promote it.

Let's keep it to the facts.

I wish Jon would drink lite beer... said...

the picture of kate with the yellow shorts and gray tshirt bending over the kiss the kids, is very telling.

from the "woman" running on the beach at Cabo to the "woman" bending over kissing her kids looks like a totally different person.


kate has been photoshopped by the ton. also, the running on the beach shot, they elongated her, she looks taller. magnify the picture to about 800 to 1000 percent, to do that click on custom on zoom. there is no belly button, no tattoos and there is a lacy flowery pattern all over. you really have to zoom to see it.

when i saw that beach picture and went and saw the bus stop picture she looks shorter and chunkier, and it is not because she is bending over. her kissing the kids is so fake!

When I hug my 3 big huge sons, i kiss them on the side of the face and hug them and pat their back and squeeze, because i love them so much!

kate depends on all the "P"s in her world:
People, photoshoppe, Paparazzi, Plagerism, pilfering, Posing,
Pink Phone...and last but not least, Purse-boy!!!

ALL Kate and no "P"'s makes Kate a dull nobody!

hahahahaha

I wish Jon would drink lite beer... said...

maybe when they get a new custody agreement and things settle down, and the show is off the air, maybe Jon could take them shopping for school supplies next fall. if i were jon i would ask for it in the new custody agreement. he has a right as the childrens father to take them to get their school supplies.

i believe jon would of made the kids put the croc shoe down and not let the kids run around in the store like wild banchees. they could of accidently hit a small child with it and knocked them to the floor and that child could of gotten really bad hurt. also, why didn't the croc company just send 8 of those display shoes for the kids and they could of kept them out in the backyard.

have you noticed that things are escalating, the stakes are getting higher and higher. And the more she self indulges and self promotes herself, the harder she is going to fall on her face! the only good out of the LWR&K, the cabo photoshoot and people cover is showing that she is so self promoting and so self indulgent that her quality parenting time is severely dimished that hopefully it will help Jon Nov. 30th.

Team Jon
lukebandit

txmom said...

couch potato said...
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As a mom of twins, I say THANK GOD for GRANDMOTHERS!!

Your post lightened my heart.

sadly, Kate will never get 'it'. how sad.

txmom said...

PattyWIthNoPity said...

Just watched this on Youtube with the volume off..!

1. Kate's lack of self-awareness extends to her not knowing her proper clothing size.

2. The kids are annoying banshees in public; even with the sound off. Kate has never taught those kids proper behavior because she doesn't know what it is.

3. She walks like a constipated cow in her gladiator spike heels.

4. Sticky notes inside her fridge.
And what looks to be dozens of
storebought eggs; chicken coop

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constipated cow? LOL, funny.
I didn't watch the show, but I know many friends that have their own chickens, and they are always begging for egg cartons. I am in no way sticking up for this shrew, but those egg cartons could contain her chicken's eggs....

bonehead said...

To: Jess: from what I read, Kate held back all of the tups a year, cause some were ready for kindergarden and some were not. Or putting it in laymans terms: Kate need the tups for filming. Sorry, if I had tups and say 4 were ready for kindergarden and 2 were not, I would send the 4 to kindergarden and the other 2 to pre-school, or before school starts find out why they are not ready and hire a tutor or teach the kids myself and get them up to speed. She is a poor excuse for a mother.

Minka's Tail said...

First of all, I'd like to protest whoever praised those who didn't watch. Um-usually you get praised for abstaining from something enjoyable, like ice cream or pizza! (LOL). Boycotting this is like giving up liver and brussel sprouts for lent! ;0

Kate is miserable. She doesn't enjoy being with her kids, or doing anything for them. The way she treats them might be OK for a strict teacher, but one expects warmth and affection from a mother. All she does is tell them where to sit, when to speak, what to say--and I never heard of a child having to raise his hands at home. Creepy. Yet, as soon as she sees shoes, she completely ignores the kids and lets them wreck the store. Oh, and that green blouse was about 1mm away from her nipple. I imagine she'll be posing topless next--Who says a mom can't be sexy? Hasn't she earned the right?

StoryLady said...

Reading about the kids going berserk in the department store reminds me of the time I took my five year old twins to get school shoes for their first day of kindergarten.
BTW, they had to know how to tie their own shoes to go to kindergarten. Guess it's different in Kateworld.
Anyway, I'd always taught my children good manners and to stick close to me and not touch things in stores or other people's homes, etc.
As I was paying for the shoes, my mom-radar sensed a disturbance in the force; you moms know what I mean? That uh-oh feeling?
I turned around and the twins had taken all of the shoes off of the lucite display rack that happened to be just their height.
They were bringing them to the "shoe lady" because there was only one of each shoe on the rack, and there should be two, because most people had two feet. Clearly a mistake had been made!
The saleswoman was very kind, and she allowed the boys to help her put the shoes back on the rack. Thank God they weren't busy that day!
I can't imagine letting children run wild in a store. That's what home is for!

WallyWinnie said...

The show is screaming for Jon!

Without Jon, it is nothing.

When Jon was on it seemed real and interesting. It is a waste of filming now if you ask me.

Horrible.

Protect8 said...

Who is Kate always talking to? The crew? So her kids watch her talk to the crew while she buys shoes for herself? Or is it Steve that she is talking to. And now Mady is talking to the crew.

This show was the absolute pinnacle of Kate's "look at me, look at me!" declaration of self importance. Her daughter gets her hair cut (BFD) and Kate cries and cries and talks about herself.

She thinks a customer at the store is rolling her eyes at her noisy children (was that big shoe okay for the kids to be playing with?) but my guess is the woman was rolling her eyes at Kate since let's face it - the vast majority of GWOP posters would be disgusted with kate - not the kids. Thinking her children are getting attention is narcissism by proxy - it means she gets the attention.

And then she "secretly" buys shoes for herself while the children have to sit there and in the interview she flirtatiously scolds a crew member because how could she really be mad - it made the show all about Kate instead of the kids. It's all about kate all of the time.

And the montage at the end was the best .... how hard did the editors work to cut out Jon - as if he never existed in the children's lives!?

What is so curious is how it has been determined by the folks in charge that Kate's fans tune in to see her act like a selfish, self important, sarcastic, neglectful mom - it's entertainment for the sheeple. Do they really think she is being funny - of course, Kate thinks she is funny - but do her fans? Wow ...

Widowed Young said...

Minka's Tail said...
...Oh, and that green blouse was about 1mm away from her nipple. I imagine she'll be posing topless next--Who says a mom can't be sexy? Hasn't she earned the right?
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I know-my 16 year old son was flipping channels and I was embarrased for him to see her sitting there with her boobs hanging out. And this is supposed to be a family show about a conservative Christan mother struggling to take care of her kids! Yeah, right. I have also thought-why do you even bother putting a shirt on anymore-you have left nothing for the imagination.

Her posture was weird on the couch too-sometimes she looks so thick (heavy) and other times very thin. I can only guess that it is spanx?

Cover it up! said...

If Kate dresses that way now can you imagine how she will dress when the girls are older and bring home a male friend?

Rose said...

It disgusts me that Kate made such a huge deal about Hannah wanting to cut her hair. In a way, I can understand because I got my long hair cut shorter in second grade, and my mom loved it long, but Kate just made such a theatrical display out of it. As usual, it was all about her, trying to project her own vain, selfish wants onto her child. My mom was a little sad when I cut mine, but certainly nothing compared to this. I wanted it cut, and she never tried to "talk me out of it". And Kate kept saying over and over, "I know I did the right thing...I knew I did the right thing when I saw Hannah's face." Um, okay...your child wants her hair cut, and you're actually debating telling her no? You have to keep reminding yourself that you "did the right thing"? It's not like she wants to dye it purple or get a spiked 'do--she just wants it a little shorter! Most mothers in that situation wouldn't have a doubt in their minds with something that simple and harmless.

Then Kate told Hannah "It will never grow back! It took you six years to grow it out!" Is she absolutely stupid????? I guess it's kind of like the negativity that Kate wrote in her public letter to Hannah in that crock of a book that she wrote: "People will ALWAYS fail you, but God never will...I will always be here for you, Hannah." Way to confuse a child. Getting back to the haircut, though--hair grows back very quickly, actually, and Hannah could easily have long hair again in a few years if she wants it. I nearly vomited watching Kate cry like a little baby while Hannah got the hair cut. If she couldn't pull herself together and act like a real mother, then she could have at least left the room...but then of course, the cameras couldn't have zoomed in on her. The show may as well be Kate Plus Kate.

Marie France said...

Jill said...
I cannot believe that she is still making those children sit in highchairs! I have four children ages 13 and under and none of them needed more than a booster seat past age four.
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Those tups were 6 on May 10th!!! Still in high chairs?!! Are you serious? I have not watched in almost two years and that is appalling. And, I read they cannot tie their shoes either - that the tups got shoes with Velcro flaps. I thought when kids go to kindergarten they have to be fully potty-trained and be able to tie their shoes. Kids normally start kindergarten at age 5 - these tups are a year late and they cannot even tie their own shoes. That is a disgrace. They are most likely far behind other kids their age in ways we can't even imagine, given that they are NOT kids - they are Kommodities.

cossysmom said...

"If they wanted the same bookbag/folder/lunchbox as a sibling, I trusted them to remember how to distinguish whose was whose."

Really what difference did it make if two or more of the kids wanted the same bookbag? She had them monogrammed with their initials. If they aren't able to distinguish which was which by their own initials, Kate has a much more serious problem than we thought.

But wait!..did anyone catch this: when they were in the department store(you know that place they had never been to before)one of the boys was touching the breasts and crotch of the mannequins. I'm not finding fault with this...any child is fascinated by this. What I find interesting is that it was not edited out. It was very brief...just a nano second...but it was there!

Amanda said...

I agree, MarieFrance. By refusing to let her kids buy shoes with laces, Kate is robbing them of an opportunity to actually learn this for themselves while they're still young. The only way they can figure out how to tie their own shoes is by practicing consistently, being exposed to it every day. It might be a bit of a hassle for the parents during the learning process, but that's kind of what it means to have children--being patient with them and encouraging them to do for themselves whenever possible, even if it's inconvenient for you. If Kate can't even bring herself to handle the task of shoe tying, then how does she think she's going to handle the big stuff later?

Sharla said...

- 1.605 million viewers
- 1.0/2 HH
- 0.7/2 A18-49

fidosmommy said...

Re: High Chairs and Velcro

I didn't watch, but I did catch the
snippet of a promo where Alexis was
excited about going back to school.
They were all sitting in what looked like ladder back chairs, but they were up SO HIGH against the dining table. Booster seats? I don't know, but I don't think they were the same high chairs they were sitting on earlier in the summer - those seats that look like the kind you see in restaurants. I can only hope not.

What's the big deal with Kate and tying shoes anyway? It's not like she's the one getting them up and ready for school anyway. I'm sure by now, if given the chance, a nanny or two could have given good instruction on tying laces, and helped give the kids a sense of being "big kids" for once. I don't think it has a thing to do with Kate's time schedule. I think it has to do with keeping them babies as long as possible. Same idea as the highchairs/booster
chairs and the "you must have a lunchbox even if you are 10 and want a regular paper sack like your best friend brings to school."
Control, control, control over the things that don't matter and not
giving a thought to allowing the kids to grow up and be individuals.

I get heartburn over this woman.

What the? said...

Just a continuity question, I watched the back to school/hair cut show last night and went to YouTube and watched the deepsea fishing fiasco just now and Hannah's hair is short in the deepsea fishing fiasco. Didn't the fishing take place before the hair cut? Her hair was clearly quite long in the hair cut episode. I am confused. Can anyone help?

Hippie Chick said...

Protect8 said...What is so curious is how it has been determined by the folks in charge that Kate's fans tune in to see her act like a selfish, self important, sarcastic, neglectful mom - it's entertainment for the sheeple. Do they really think she is being funny - of course, Kate thinks she is funny - but do her fans? Wow ...


Then why do so many of her non-fans tune in? This is what I am so curious about...

AMD said...

Rose said..."The show may as well be Kate plus Kate".

Rose...you've nailed it!

bonehead said...

I was watching part of it during commercials of NCIS. What a DRAMA QUEEN Kate is. Even one of the twins said she has so much shoes she should make the closet bigger or add on to the house. And the fuss about the kids having the same back pack, she had them monogramed, so, why, do the tubs not know there name or there letters? And what mother sits there flapping her mouth, wearing a low cut top, that boob was ready to fall out. She look as if she belonged in a bar, looking for a pick-up. Tell me moms out there, do your kids really need a new back-pack every year? Geez, they are in Kindergarden. They had back-packs last year in JR Kindergarden, so they need new ones? I also liked how the kids don't listen to her in the store. And what is this last minute, I have to put your name on your shoes, just before we have to leave the house. Real good organization there. And yes, those kids were in high chairs, they are the same kind I've seen at Bakers Square and else where. Kate does not want them to grow up.

Bubbles said...

What the? said...
Didn't the fishing take place before the hair cut?
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Haircuts photos showed up 8/6/2010.
Bald Head Island photos started showing up around 8/12/2010.
Back-to-school shopping resumed after the "vacation".

It was a continuity error, since scenes were shot out-of-sequence. It might work for making a film but not with a reality show (especially with paps documenting your every film move).

jonandkatewho? said...

I was surprised that what annoyed me most about the episode was kate repeating the bs she always does about the 30 weeks of bedrest and how much she seems to mourn thier younger days and dread them growing up. She says you only have so many years to spend with your children before they become students, so why the HELL doesn't she spend more time with them?

The woman is a loon.
Oh, and did she need to be such a bitch when going over all of her stupid rules? what an ungodly cow she is!

StoryLady said...

Did Hannah ignore her mother's histrionics over the haircut?
She knows hair grows. She IS six, after all.
I'll bet she feels so much better having it shorter.

fidosmommy said...

In my opinion, Kate cried because one of her children made a decision on her own. Hannah said she wanted shorter hair, Kate practically begged her to want long hair, Hannah said she wanted it cut off. Kate saw her little girl make a decision, and to make it all worse for Kate, Hannah was very happy with the result. No
"I told you so" from Kate.

CarolS461 said...

PattyWithNoPity wrote:

Just watched this on Youtube with the volume off..!

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Was this last night's episode? Where on YouTube? Can you post a link?

I don't have TV right now, but I would love to see the whole department store, haircut episode.

Please post.

Thanks.

Amanda, Iowa said...

The schoolbag part just irritated me.
"Oh look, this one has a lizzard on it!" then one of the girls gets excited about it and then gets barked at "No, not for you, you are a girl!"
And then Khate later says taht they all picked their own stuff.
Right!!!!! Who believes that.
I really like to hear from people who saw aal that. There must be enough people out there who see this trainwreck live, in the making so to say?
You see bystanders where-ever they film, already for years, but you never here anything. Isnt that weird?

Tami said...

Protect8 said...What is so curious is how it has been determined by the folks in charge that Kate's fans tune in to see her act like a selfish, self important, sarcastic, neglectful mom - it's entertainment for the sheeple. Do they really think she is being funny - of course, Kate thinks she is funny - but do her fans? Wow ...


Then why do so many of her non-fans tune in? This is what I am so curious about...
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I am just wondering if they explain to the children that it is just acting if that's the case! I too think she is just hamming it up. I saw maybe 2 minutes of this episode and it was during the shoe shopping. I was showing my daughter what other "great stuff" (ha) we were missing on tv during a DWTS commerical. She was acting so over the top talking about her "shoe thing" and just being an obnoxious jerk. She had the same sarcastic manner she did when they first moved into the new house and she did the paper towel thing, the fridge cleaning thing and the Jon wiping butts thing. IF (a big if) she is hamming it up, do they tell the kids or just emotionally abuse them for more ratings? I don't think the kids are in on it because they don't seem to like their mom at all!

average jo said...

No, kids are not required to know how to tie shoes in order to enter kindergarten. It's just one of the things they work on. I realize the Gosselin kids seem delayed, but some people here seem to confuse a neighbor kid or a friend of a friend's kid who could read at 3 or a kid who could tie shoes that early with the average kid.

Tami said...

I don't get why Kate so desperately wanted Hannah to have the long, wild, untrimmed hair. Why does she project like that onto Hannah and let the others have shorter hair? Poor Hannah, having such an emotionally unhealthy person obsess over you that way! My daughter had beautiful long, naturally curly hair. She wanted it cut off. She's never been to a salon except for a manicure and an up-do for prom. She's 19 and I have always done her hair. So of course not only does it make me kind of sad when she finally has it grown out blond again and she wants to dye it red or put in blue streaks or something, but I have to do it myself. One day Hannah will be a teenager and she'll probably want to do the opposite of what her mom wants just because she has been so tightly controlled for so long.

Lillie Mae Acres said...

Ok, so Miss Sexpot Hefty Legs dresses like a tramp to take the kids school shopping. When is the last time you saw a mom in real life dress like that in shorts and high heels w/ her boobs hanging out to go shopping? Why is everything Jon does wrong, but she's the pitiful single mom doing her best?
Why are we supposed to care about her shoe problem, and buying herself those shoes that were prob very expensive, I mean FREE?
The kids running all over the toy dept. like it's the playground?
I'm just shaking my head!!!!!

CakeIsGreat said...

There's a clip up on "The Soup Blog" regarding the lunch/sandwich scene. I watched it, but have seen nothing else from the episode. Honestly, I feel icky that I even watched the clip. When there are 2 other people in a room, let alone 8, when you just say "you", it is your fault if all parties answer. That just shows how little Kate actually does things for her kids. She should have known that would happen.

Another example she knows nothing about her kids? She said she should "make a list of their likes and dislikes." Really, Kate? A list? She has no idea what her kids like to eat for lunch? My mother always knew what to make me, unless she had gotten something different and asked me if I wanted that instead (or until one day in 3rd grade when the sight of Ham suddenly disgusted me and I haven't touched it since {thus being a total PITA when the Easter Ham is being prepped ;0)}) Wasn't there scenes of Kate making their lunch last year on the first day? She even dictated in what order they better eat everything. I guess it's easy to forget something you haven't done in a year. I'm surprised the oh-so-healthy-Kate has mayo on hand. No, wait, I'm not. I'm sure it was organic mayo at least!

Highchairs, plastic kiddie plates. Not much as changed I see. Kids their age should be helping to set the table. While I don't doubt Kate wants to keep them looking young, I do wonder how tall they are these days. They really haven't changed much. I wonder if some would need a booster seat if they were on a regular chair and Kate/TLC doesn't want to admit to that? Have they been shown out anywhere sitting on regular chairs at, say, a restaurant?

OC Girl said...

average jo said...
No, kids are not required to know how to tie shoes in order to enter kindergarten. It's just one of the things they work on.
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It appeared that the girls really wanted big girl shoes with shoelaces; however, Kate wanted them in velcro because it would be faster for them to get dressed in morning. She didn't want to deal with the amount of time it took for them to tie them.

Kate didn't say they didn't know how to tie, just that it would take a really long time. Within the same breath, she said they needed to practice.

So...wouldn't it make sense to get them shoes with shoelaces so they could practice?

pinkdiamond611 said...

It has been established that some of the Gosselin kids are delayed. They are supposed to be in FIRST grade. Therefore, not knowing how to tie your shoes when you are over six years old can be considered delayed. But just like the reading, if nobody bothered to parent and teach them how to, you can't expect average kids to pick it up on their own.

SueH said...

What caught my attention was when the camera guy asked her if she planned to get up early every day or if it was just a first day of school thing. She rolled her eyes and barked No way, today was just orientation, and began barking directives at the kids (where do your shoes go? Where do your school papers go?) Translation: The kids and the nannies better know the drill cause no way in hell is she going to get out of bed or greet them when they come home.

K8STFU said...

average jo-

People are commenting on the tups delayed development not as an attack on the tups, but rather as another example of K8 never taking the time out of her busy life to teach her children any life skills.

PattyWithNoPity said...

"Was this last night's episode? Where on YouTube? Can you post a link?

I don't have TV right now, but I would love to see the whole department store, haircut episode.

Please post."
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CarolS461: Copy and paste this into Youtube search box and you will find it:

Kate Plus Eight EPI - Shopping Chaos pt1

Justice said...

I think Kate should consider skipping a few salon appts and work on teaching the kids how to tie their shoes.

sillyrabbit said...

It wasnt the shoes that Kate was looking that were 'ridiculous' it was her OBNOXIOUS look at me juvenile behavior! I agree 100% with the many that say Kate has absolutely ZERO self awareness.

She is Disturbing and Frustrating said...

I saw the part where they were eating at the kitchen table. How disturbing. I have 9 year old triplets, I know that 3 is a far cry from 8, but at least I know my kids and what they like to eat. They are all different, I know what sandwiches, snacks, fruit, veg, drinks they like to have in their lunch boxes because I spend time with my kids!! So, I don't have to shout at them to find out what kind of sandwich they like. I was also disturbed by the way she was throwing the shoe boxes at them asking, Are these yours, Are these yours?? WTF, I thought she spent weeks getting their uniforms organized and labeled. She needs to spend time with and pay attention to her kids, she doesn't even know them anymore.

Pattypanda said...

Backpacks every year - at this age more than likely. They're little, they drag them around, lunch boxes get stinky after a while. My kids got new ones every year until around high school, then we got higher quality leather bottom ones. My son had one for 4 years, until the zipper finally gave out. I would hand wash them and hang them outside at the end of the year. It's not like it's a choice of back packs or shoes or groceries this week for her.

SafetyTrain said...

Best moment of the show - when Kate got distracted from the task at hand and was trying on shoes for herself (of course) - Mady told her her feet looked wrinkly in one pair. Ms. Beefy Feet should listen to that child a little more because she really is smart and honest.

And how does a mother of 8 who is hovering on the edge of poverty - who can't afford milk or eggs for her children - own so many shoes? She was walking around the department pointing out all the shoes she owned like she was a spoiled teenager trying to impress her friends. And I don't think these were $20 pairs of shoes. Hey Kate, I'm sure the people who gave you those "love offerings" way back when would like their money back!!!!

MaryB said...

I was flipping through channels last night and came across the 8. I watched for a few minutes then had to change the channel.
Kate has always bothered me but watching her strutting around in that outfit with that pink shirt with the open back made me sick. She has turned into a creeper.
She literally turns my stomach.
The picture of her kissing each kid for the camera before they got in the car pushed me over the top.
The picture is so wrong in so many ways because it is for the camera only.
What should have made me go awe made me despise her even more than I already do. Despise her enough I no longer want to see her in any form, in any way.
May God protect those precious little ones.
She really thinks she can pull the public her way by pretending to be affectionate to her little money bags.
Sick sick sick

longtimelurker said...

No, kids are not required to know how to tie shoes in order to enter kindergarten. It's just one of the things they work on. I realize the Gosselin kids seem delayed, but some people here seem to confuse a neighbor kid or a friend of a friend's kid who could read at 3 or a kid who could tie shoes that early with the average kid.
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ITA... These kids are individual PERSONS. I don't think they are delayed, because how do you measure that? I do think their mother holds them back and she sets them up to fail, that is the real issue. It shouldn't matter what other kids or their siblings can do. I could read before I went to Kindergarten, but it took me until the end of Kindergarten to master shoe tying My mom practised with me and I didn't have velcro shoes, but it was hard for me to get. My mom just didn't make a big deal out of it that I couldn't and then one day I could.

Swissmiss150 said...

I'm beginning to wonder if they are deliberately showing Kate's worst side so they can claim the ratings are going down and the show must be cancelled?

Think about it - her yelling to the kids in New York about ice cream flavors, threatening to leave them in New York with a stranger, screaming at them getting shoes and backbacks and getting haircuts, her meanness to the kids when some got sick on the boat. It seems to me that it has increased.

As far as Kate's claim that the children had not been in a department store before, how about the trip to Target where Kate was getting toys for the kids at St. Jude's? And her meltown one Christmas in a store where she screached like a banshee at Jon in public and embarrased him?

They never should have attempted to get shoes and backpacks and stuff in one day. Everyone got tired. They had the whole summer -oh, wait, they were on multiple vacations, weren't they?

Kate should have stopped the kids from running around with that huge croc display piece - it's not a toy. I don't blame the kids, I blame the mother.

BRIDAL SHOWER SUNDAY JULY 20, 2008 said...

Any good mother would know not to ask 8 children all at once if they want mayo or mustard on their sandwiches. Of course they are all going to answer at once, because she asked them all at once, and then she gets mad when they answers and tell them to shut up. She should of asked them individually but that does not show any chaos like she wants the viewers to see.
She even demands the order of food from them to eat. I hope when they are at school they experience a little freedom from her and eat the crunchie thing before the veggie thing just to piss her off!

Can't See Sheep said...

SafetyTrain said...
She was walking around the department pointing out all the shoes she owned like she was a spoiled teenager trying to impress her friends.
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That is exactly what she's like in all this, kate is a spoiled teenager rubbing the noses of others in all she has.

And how sad for the children, the only time they seem to get any affection from her is when a camera is clicking away & she needs to do it to make herself look good. She sick, she's selfish & she doesn't deserve any of them. Mind you with all the control she tries to have over them she won't have them for a lot longer. Maybe she should grow up & learn that lizards on backpacks are for whoever wants them, girls or boys. She really needs to knock off this sexism with them. stop trying to limit them everyway possible. What next they can't be a doctor because only boys are doctors. And to tell the child her hair won't grow back, how ridiculous & manipulative. Irritating controllling harpy!

I hope Jon or someone teaches these children to tie their shoes because if they wait for kate they'll be graduating high school when they learn to tie them. If I were the children I certainly wouldn't want her teaching me, the woman has only patience for herself & would be a shrieking mess throughout.

Mystical said...

Kate is a disturbing person, especially in her mothering skills. I swear she is not able to feel love or compassion for them...well, except for her dear heart Hannah. And believe me, all the rest know this too.

The Hannah hair ordeal was clearly insane for many reasons.

Everything is about CONTROL! Aiden said he wanted a certain pair of shoes, then spotted another pair he liked better. But oh NO! Kate told him he already picked a pair. There is no sense behind this type of action other than her need to have power & senseless control over them. She is a hard, cold, cruel woman.

When Mady & Alexis acted up in the store, Mady had a look of sheer terror on her face at she wondered what Kate would do to her. I've never seen this look on Mady before.

The kids are being mothered by a drill sargent. Kate even has stick-it notes in the dang fridge, lest someone dare to put the eggs or milk in the wrong spot. Or maybe it's to tell people what they can & cannot eat. They were stuck to the shelving, not on food containers. Scary!

Just imagine what goes on behind closed doors in that household. She cannot handle her own children. I'm sure she calls the nanny for help like she once did to Jon. We are seeing the rare times she actually spends time with her kids obviously.

K8STFU said...

They had the whole summer -oh, wait, they were on multiple vacations, weren't they?

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Actually, the kids were working all summer. K8's the only one who enjoyed those "vacations".

txmom said...

My kids don't get new backpacks every yr, either. I am the last of the generation that uses something until it is broken or obsolete! I do not see the wisdom of getting the 'newest bestest (kate-ism!) thing 'cuz I 'need a new one'.I guess my kids get a new backpack every other year. My kids have everything they need, and we work really hard to give them some of the things they want. Happiness shouldn't be tied up in possessions.

Kate's kids get new stuff because TLC paid for it. I bet they also told Kate to get her some new shoes, too..from what I have read, she was pointing out all the shoes she already had. Well, if TLC hadn't told her to get HER some shoes, she probably wouldn't have even looked at shoes for herself.
So, Kate took a bite from the apple...and spewed on tape how many shoes she had, blah, blah, ect.. And TLC loved every minute of it.

This woman is so stupid, she just can't see how they are using her.

Anonymous said...

The whole Hannah Haircut thing was all about K8: WATCH ME! See how magnanimous I am, why I even allow my 6 yr old to get her hair shortened even though it MAKES ME CRY. This was supposed to convince viewers what a great and giving mom she is, always putting the kids before herself.

But who in their right mind CRIES about a 6 yr old getting her haircut. Just more manufactured drama brought to you by K8, the Drama Queen.

Nice product placement on the couch with "I Just Want You To Know" in full view behind Miss Thing.

She and this show are a joke.

goawaykate said...

Yes, the chairs the tups sat in are the same booster/high chairs they've been using for @ 4 years now.

The girls apparently CAN tie their shoes - the boys, idk. The girls wanted tie shoes but Kate told them no, because they're TOO SLOW and would wear velcro until next year.

Way to go Kate. Rather than help them master their new skill by practicing every day wearing their new tie shoes - she took the easy route for herself and kept them behind in yet again another measure of maturity.

What do you think of this premise: TLC is letting Kate+8 fade away for a few month and will bring it/her back in November for sweeps month? Everyone has said she's overexposed so what better way to make the viewers curious and tune into a new show than to take her out of the media and bring her back - probably once again, with a new mantra? I hope I'm completely off base, but I'm scared that it might be true.

Tizzie said...

SueH said...

when the camera guy asked her if she planned to get up early every day or if it was just a first day of school thing. She rolled her eyes and barked No way, today was just orientation, and began barking directives at the kids (where do your shoes go? Where do your school papers go?)

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OMG all those rules and expectations were RIDICULOUS. Those kids are SIX and she expects them to remember all that ON TOP OF their new rules & routines at school????

If she is oh so organised as she and TLC lead us to believe, she would have made "Before School" and "After School" checklists taped on the wall in the entrance hall. Have the kids draw a picture of shoes / backpack / papers and stick them on the door of their assigned closets.

And OMG she was acting like a drill seargent over the order the kids were to eat their lunches, especially the punishment of not getting a dessert item the next day if anything else wasn't eaten.

She is all about rules and punishments and all things negative. It's important to teach the kids good habits and independence, but how about taking a POSITIVE approach?

And there is no reason why she can't do the same for shoe-tying as she did with potty-training - teach the girls and boys seperately. There is no law stating she has to teach all 6 at the same time.

kan't stand khate said...

I just watched one of the older clips from when they were married. She looked much better before.

K8STFU said...

I just read on another site that the backpacks came from LLBean. Can anybody here confirm?

Bodyguard my a$$ said...

They are LLBean backpacks. When they got the shoes, you could see in pap pictuires an LLBean store across the street from Stride Rite. Those backpacks last FOREVER. But I'm sure they'll be on consignment by next year.

Bubbles said...

@Ohio Buckeye - what makes it even stranger is that in the episode where Kate states that the twins are getting bangs because they won't keep their hair out of their faces (and Cara cries because she doesn't want bangs)...when you see them in the Oprah interview taped the next day, they DON'T have bangs!

Pony said...

"I just read on another site that the backpacks came from LLBean. Can anybody here confirm?"

Don't know if LLBean gave them the backpacks, but the backpacks shown on YouTube are LLBean backpacs.

Anonymous said...

Jeeze Louise......do you think she showed enough breast in the department store? Plus, the seated interview was like Humpty Dumpty on the Wall...I kept waiting for something to spill over! Please, have some pity for my credulity......you expect me to believe those are "all yours"?

Jane from PA said...

Regarding the backpacks.....
My first impression upon seeing the footage was that they were definitely in an LLBean store. I've been in one near Allentown, PA and it sure looked like it to me.

Anonymous said...

I agree: WHO cries about their 6 year old getting her hair cut off???

You cry if it's an arm or leg being removed, but a haircut??

I call b.s. on all that is K8G.

fidosmommy said...

I have heard of mothers crying when their toddlers get their first haircuts.

But then again, on What Not to Wear, grown women weep as their hair is cut short to compliment their new style.

I guess it's an individual thing.

K8STFU said...

Thanks everyone for the responses to my question about the backpacks.

I will be writing their HQ tomorrow. I am really shocked and incensed that a company like LLBean would participate in the Gosselin exploitation. I have been a customer for many years starting from when I was a college student in New England 20 years ago.

yourheartiffulloftermites said...

Love how one braid was donated and kate kept the other one. Good job Mom of the year! What a waste of good hair. She should have kept a little lock and given most of it to a child who really needs it.

Do you really believe Kate will keep that hair? She's not sentimental about ANYTHING! Look at the Christmas ornaments from the dead grandfather, she was hocking them at a yard sale!

Patchouli Patricia said...

"It has been established that some of the Gosselin kids are delayed. They are supposed to be in FIRST grade. Therefore, not knowing how to tie your shoes when you are over six years old can be considered delayed."

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What professional educator/child development expert established this? None of them is SUPPOSED to be anywhere. There is no set rule that say a six-year-old is supposed to be in first grade. Children learn different skills at different times. You don't rush a child to learn fine motor skills -- it will only result in frustration for the both of you. There is nothing that says if a six-year-old can't tie shoes then he is developmentally delayed.

One of my children just couldn't get the hang of it until well past his 6th birthday. According to your assessment, he might have been considered developmentally delayed. He is now a pediatrician who also coaches a university sports team. No problem with his eye-hand coordination! And yes, he can tie his own athletic shoes.

grannyoftwo said...

What professional educator/child development expert established this? None of them is SUPPOSED to be anywhere.

Don't know where you live, but in my state we have state laws that say a six year old should be in the first grade if they are six before Sept. 15th. That is in writing. Unless, they have failed to pass the requirements of kindergarten, which would mean, that they are not "getting" it.

Vanessa said...

Why would she even ask them what they wanted in their sandwhiches? I really can't see her making them all DIFFERENT lunches, puleeeze! They all started shouting because it was probably the first time they've been ASKED and got all excited. It was all for the show. IF Kate's the one making their lunches, it's just an assembly line everyone "gets what they get, and don't get upset"

Bubbles said...

Kate told someone the kids had never been to a department store before? What does she think Kmart is? That's where they went in the "We're Pretending We're Giving Back" episode where they went to St. Jude.

Just.
One.
More.
Lie.

readerlady said...

Way back in the dark ages, when I went to college, I studied audiology and speech pathology. I've also taught special ed. and currently tutor children who have delayed verbal/communication skills. The 6 little ones ARE delayed. Last year, several of them weren't ready for kindergarten. Just on casual observation, they are behind in speech/language development, some are apparently behind in motor skill development, and they are behind in social skills. It's not unusual and not cause for alarm when a child exhibits a delay in one area, such as learning to tie shoes. When you have a number of delays across the board, then there is cause for concern. Without being able to administer a battery of tests, I can't say that the kids are developmentally delayed in the traditional sense. I suspect they aren't, but they have been retarded in their development, either deliberately, to make them appear younger and take advantage of the "cute" factor, or because of lack of exposure in the home. Since it's pretty clear that Khate doesn't bother to work with her kids on things like tieing shoes, conversational skills, reading readiness,etc. y'all can guess in which direction I'm leaning. Full-time kindergarten should help them to catch up to their peers if this is the case. The best thing for them would be to be in a school situation where they are not all together. That would definitely
help their development and their individuality.

Re the little girl who wanted the lizard on her backpack. That had to be Alexis. She's always been fascinated with reptiles. Remember her "aldergator"? Khate's a fool to force such sexist stereotypes on them.

Leah! said...

Didn't watch the show. Too many good things on that night! Besides if something crazy happens, I know I can come here and find out. Don't want to give her the publicity or the satisfaction.

I sorta understand the haircut thing... but not THAT dramatic of a reaction. I had long, long hair (past my bum) when I was a kid, and my mom spent hours on it. I mean, serious hair-care, people! I finally convinced her to let me cut it (when I was 12) because I found an ad for Locks of Love. She didn't freak out or cry, but definitely looked a bit upset when the day came. (On a side note; we got over a foot to send it. :) Yay!)

So yeah. I don't understand the strong reaction. She doesn't react that way about, well, anything that the other kids do. I have a feeling TLC will air the footage they have, maybe film a couple more to wrap things up, but that will be it. People just don't care about her. The only reason I even pay attention is because I'm fully convinced something horrible is going to happen because of HER... whether the cameras are there or not. Hope I'm wrong.

Leah! said...

Oh yeah, one more thing; I have to defend the kids on the tying shoes debacle. I had a wicked hard time learning when I was in kindergarten, and so did some of my friends. Most of us had people to help us outside of school as well, and it was still difficult. However, by buying the kids shoes with laces, it helps kick the learning up a bit. Kate is so lazy. Now, I understand most of our parents don't have 8 (count'em8) kids, but damn if they didn't give an effort. She's really counting on other people raising them. She's missing out on so much.

Twila said...

Patchouli Patricia said...
"It has been established that some of the Gosselin kids are delayed. They are supposed to be in FIRST grade. Therefore, not knowing how to tie your shoes when you are over six years old can be considered delayed."


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In defense of some of the kids, Kate never said they did not know how to tie their shoes. She said they don't know how to tie them fast enough ( for her liking I suppose ).

Good gosh, all you have to do is visit any elementary school, particularly the primary grades, and you will see numerous kids in grades K-2, and even in the upper grades, with untied shoe laces. Some are too lazy to tie them, some just can't tie them fast enough before they are untied again.

There are kids in 1st, 2nd, 3rd grades who still can't tie their shoes. They were just raised on velcro. It doesn't make them delayed at all. How can they learn to do something if they don't have what they need to practice? I've seen gifted children who can't tie their shoes.

hannah said...

I used youtube and scrolled up to the part where Hannah got her haircut. I wanted to slap Kate. her face looks really bad.

Why does she only care about Hannahs hair. She froces the other kids to get haircuts.

REALLY!?!?! Could it be? said...

Any other reports of this?

http://www.metrowny.com/blogs/archives/808-Kate_Gosselin_has_been_Canceled!_Kate_Plus_8_is_no_more!_Yea!.html

Sunny Daze said...

Any other reports of this?

http://www.metrowny.com/blogs/archives/808-Kate_Gosselin_has_been_Canceled!_Kate_Plus_8_is_no

Yes. It's a story that Perez got wrong.

Tying One On said...

My kids actually begged me for Velcro shoes until they were in second grade, and the teachers thanked me for it! Laces just didn't stay tied no matter what you did, and for a pre-school or Kindergarten teacher to have to tie 60 shoelaces on any given day was just, well, annoying and the kids hated it. It was a rare shoe that stayed tied during a seven-hour school day that involved phys ed class and recess.

readerlady said...

I didn't learn to tie my shoes until 2nd grade. I'm left-handed and both my parents were right-handed. It took getting a left-handed teacher for me to learn. Isn't Khate left-handed? Maybe the kids who have learned to tie their shoes are also left-handed. That could explain why some don't know how yet. It doesn't explain their other delays, though. Again, I'm not saying the kids are innately "slow". I'm saying they haven't been taught the things most kids have learned, or have started to learn, by the time they are nearly 6 1/2.

Gimme Gimme said...

One would think that Khatan would know what the kids want on their sandwich what with getting up at 5 in the morning all those years to make them and then split them. That is a total of 4 sandwiches and a few little tidbits tucked here and there as well as the notes (as is the tradition in our house - not) she so aptly showed the camera and read aloud. She is the most disgusting person and a lousy mom. She obviously is out of practice on the lunches.

Tangerine Tanya said...

There are little kids shoes that have tied laces but also have velcro attached. This shoe makes the kids feel cool yet makes it easier for mother and child. You would think that Kate would know this.

CarolS461 said...

How long does it actually take to tie 1 shoe lace? What 2-4 seconds per each shoe? That's 4-8 seconds per child x 6 = 24-48 seconds to tie shoes. That's less than 1 FREAKIN' minute. Is it really a big, huge, hairy, freakin' deal?

Maybe if she knew how to manage her children and her time better, she'd be able to spend less than 1=2 minute tying shoes in the morning.

From the way she runs her detention camp, they should all be lined up against the wall anyway, ready for criticism before they leave the house. Why couldn't she just go down the line and tie their shoes one by one and just BE DONE WITH IT!

As for the teacher griping about having to tie 60 shoes up in class...why are the kids taking their shoes off in school to begin with?



Something else to ponder...do Mady & Cara know how to tie their shoes? I wonder how old they were when they learned to tie their shoes.

And all this hoo-hah about shoe coming untied...has anybody ever heard of a double knot - meaning one they are tied, take the 2 loops and tie those together. Hell, I'm 49-years-old and have long shoe laces on my shoes. I hate having them too long, so I double up when I tie them. It's not awkward looking or noticeable. I don't have people stopping to gawk at my double knotted shoelace tie job. EVER!

Lastly, did she ever stop to think that if she hadn't kicked her husband to the curb, he might still be there to help her get them ready and off to school?

Maybe she wouldn't be so mean to the kids because she'd have some help.

Tying One On said...

As for the teacher griping about having to tie 60 shoes up in class...why are the kids taking their shoes off in school to begin with?

LOL! You're kidding, right? Shoelaces often come untied on their own, especially when running, playing, etc. A child doesn't have to take off shoes in order for the laces to come untied, and when they do come untied, the child trips over them. All I had to say was, "Shoelace check!" and we'd stop so it could be retied! In fact, someone came out with one of those gizmos that you threaded through the lace so it wouldn't come untied. They never worked! Ditto with double-tying. The laces had a mind of their own and always managed to come untied anyway.

Katie WONKa said...

Tangerine Tanya, the shoes you describe sound cool and perfect for the G8. Maybe Katan hasn't heard of them because they aren't carried by Stride Rite (and therefore free). Lordy be, we all know she wouldn't actually pay for shoes that her kids would love; they get what they get and they are to be happy about it. Only she is allowed to choose whatever shoes she likes. Only she is worthy of this small joy in life....only she is worthy of a closet full of whorish, too-small shoes.

Jane in CA said...

As to shoe tying, I just had my son wear shoes that velcro fastened. In fact, Sketchers makes some very popular shoes with a Z-strap that is velcro and tons of kids wear them. Again, this is just Kate making much ado about nothing.

If I had a number of young kids who needed to get ready for school quickly and didn't know how to tie shoes, I'd buy them velcro fasten shoes plus a pair of tie up, and then on week-ends, we'd use the extra time to practice tying shoes. It's not rocket science, but I guess Katie Irene can't wrap her mind around much of anything.

Maybe I'm just more laid back, but I didn't stress over when my son learned to tie his shoes. I knew he was a smart kid and he'd learn sooner or later, and he did.

fidosmommy said...

If being left handed is a problem for Kate teaching her right handed children how to tie their shoes, what about the nannies taking on the job? Or Mady and Cara taking 5minutes out of their day to give
Big Sister lessons to the little ones? Or Jon? Not all the people older than the sextuplets are left handed.

I don't believe there is a legitimate reason for NONE of the
6 kids to be able to have laced shoes, especially if they want them. Those who don't, get velcro.
Those who want to learn to tie their shoes, get lacing shoes. It has nothing to do with time, energy or convenience having to deal with 6 pair of untied laces. It's just a matter of Kate Control.

I wish Jon would drink lite beer... said...

I posted the first post on this thread about kate not donating to Locks of Love. Sorry about that, i hadn't seen that small part of the show, just concentrating on the shoe and bookbag chaos. but when i did get a chance to see hannah's hair braided in 2 braids and kate is going to save one and donate one, i thought how crazy! did she save any of the other kids hair from the dramatic haircut episode?
what will she do with the hair? my guess is that she will put it in hannah's room and then when she gets insane, grab a plastic garbage back and throw the hair in it and other precious things and throw them down the stairs like she did Mady and Cara's.
She should of donated all the hair and keep a small lock of it.

like I said she is a Gnat Spitter and a Camel Swallower.

on JibberJabbers site, she has posted a frame of Kate showing the girl tups that they are going to have to velcro it another year. the picture shows all the girls in defiance mode. anger, arms crossed, one has a fist, the look of hurt and pain are on their faces is hard to look at and no wonder they are upset, because they are embarrassed. they don't want to go to school and every kid in school will know that they don't know how to tie their shoes.
kate is a loon! and buying shoes on their day of getting their things for school was so petty, self indulgent, and CRUEL!
she has plenty of time and money to shop for herself when they are in school.
we all know that.
way to go Mady saying that she has so many shoes that they need to put a hole in the wall and build another room to put them in. and the wrinkly feet comment! Awesome Mady!

Somewhereinoh said...

Re: Shoe laces.

There was a time in our 'society' (for lack of a better word) when it was considered routine parental practice to teach a child how to tie their shoe laces and ranked in importance along side the child knowing their full name, parents name, street address and phone number, typically before entering kindergarten. However, IMO the main reason the practice of teaching a child how to tie their shoes has become less significant is because the shoe industry is designing more and more CHILDREN's shoes that do not have shoe laces ie.. Velcro, slip ons (Crocs), boots (Ugg) and sandals/ flip flops. Kids arent learning to tie their own shoes because they are wear and parents continue to buy the shoes that dont require tying. Personally, I feel that teaching a child to tie their own shoes to be considered one of the memorable childhood accomplishments up there with learning to ride a bike without training wheels.

Denise said...

My daughter is a 20 year old, college junior on the Dean's list and she still can't tell time on an analog clock!

Anne said...

fidosmommy said...I don't believe there is a legitimate reason for NONE of the 6 kids to be able to have laced shoes, especially if they want them. Those who don't, get velcro. Those who want to learn to tie their shoes, get lacing shoes.
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Exactly! They are individuals. They don't all have to get lacing shoes at the same time. Did they all potty train at the same time? No!

readerlady said...

I agree that being left-handed, or not, isn't an excuse for Khate's not having taught the kids how to tie their shoes. It's a reason why some may have learned faster than the others. It's much easier to learn when you are taught by someone of the same "handedness". Mady is also left-handed. Cara, I believe, is right. But aside from the shoe tying - there are so many wrong things that Khate IS teaching them. Girls can't like lizards, girls don't (or shouldn't0 like sports, boys are icky and dirty and not worth paying attention to. Just so very, very wrong. I checked out the photo on jibberjabbers site. The girls do look mad, dejected and defeated. One other thing I noticed - they all appear to have bags and dark circles under their eyes. It may just be lighting or the camera angle, but it's the first thing I noticed. Why in the world would 6 year olds have eye bags and dark circles?

Night Blooming Jasmine said...

Lastly, did she ever stop to think that if she hadn't kicked her husband to the curb, he might still be there to help her get them ready and off to school?

Maybe she wouldn't be so mean to the kids because she'd have some help.



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Having him at home never stopped her before from being mean to him or the kids.

She would still be mean to the kids because she'd be fussing at him because he wasn't helping enough or he wasn't doing something right and she had to do it all by herself. The heeellloooooo Jon thing, the treating him like a friggin' dog.

Can't See Sheep said...

Jane in CA said...
If I had a number of young kids who needed to get ready for school quickly and didn't know how to tie shoes, I'd buy them velcro fasten shoes plus a pair of tie up, and then on week-ends, we'd use the extra time to practice tying shoes. It's not rocket science, but I guess Katie Irene can't wrap her mind around much of anything.
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Kate has the money to do this, but I'm betting the children were only given one pair of free shoes. We all know how much she seems to hate spending her own money on her children.

She also has more than enough time on her hands to do this, the woman has no job outside of the show, but again, we all know how she likes to keep a way from those kids & do as little with them as possible, unless the cameras are rolling.

There you have it, it's TLC fault the kids can't tie their shoes, they should have made an episode about them learning to tie shoes so kate would have had to teach them. I'm suprised that TLC didn't see the potential for katie Irene tantrums & completely freaking out on an episode like this. They wouldn't have had to pay for a trip or anything & would have gotten just as much shrieking out of it. All the shrieking for a fraction of the cost.

Kids Need a Role Model said...

It's so sad that Kate no longer has Beth or another mature Christian friend in her life willing to sit her down and explain why wearing that little turquoise top (with a neckline that plunges to the navel) while telling the world about your youngest children starting kindergarten was completely inappropriate. Yet another reason why it's a good idea to keep your mother involved in your life...

Tami said...

Uh, my son is left handed and I taught him how to tie shoes. I never thought twice that he could not learn from me because I'm right handed. What hogwash!

Tami said...

Maybe I'm just more laid back, but I didn't stress over when my son learned to tie his shoes. I knew he was a smart kid and he'd learn sooner or later, and he did.
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I'm the same way. I didn't go 'omg, my kids need to know how to ties shoes at 3, read at 3, know their full name, birthday and address and phone number by 3, etc. I found that all my kids learned different things at a different pace and I didn't see the point of starting to teach shoe tying at toddlerhood. But I also disagree with people who try to force potty training at exactly 2. That doesn't mean I think Kate is anywhere close to a good parent, I just don't agree with some of the people who are in shock that all kids don't tie shoes and do other things at the exact same age. Then again, that is one reason the 6 should not be treated as one single unit, but as individuals.

Tami said...

How long does it actually take to tie 1 shoe lace? What 2-4 seconds per each shoe? That's 4-8 seconds per child x 6 = 24-48 seconds to tie shoes. That's less than 1 FREAKIN' minute. Is it really a big, huge, hairy, freakin' deal?

Maybe if she knew how to manage her children and her time better, she'd be able to spend less than 1=2 minute tying shoes in the morning.

From the way she runs her detention camp, they should all be lined up against the wall anyway, ready for criticism before they leave the house. Why couldn't she just go down the line and tie their shoes one by one and just BE DONE WITH IT!

As for the teacher griping about having to tie 60 shoes up in class...why are the kids taking their shoes off in school to begin with?

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My kids change shoes for gym class because they keep them at school rather than wear the same gym shoes every day as regular shoes. Also, laces come untied. But I agree with you in how she complains about nothing. She claimed dressing the kids took hours and hours. Ok, sure...

Kate Don't Rate said...

Can you say FUTURE EATING DISORDERS??!!

Dictating to those poor kids the exact order in which they are to eat their lunchbox food.........are you kidding me????????

Deborah said...

Disclaimer: I can't stand Kate!

That said - I honestly didn't have a problem with the velcro shoes. It would be sooo much faster in the morning and if they have to take them off or put them on at school. I'm sure there are tie shoes at home they can practice with. (Hopefully a nanny will help them learn)

I also didn't have a problem with going over the after school routine of where things go. The WAY she said it, yes.

I direct shows that often have children the tup's age. I do the same thing with them: What happens when you come off stage? Where does your costume go? Where do your shoes go? Etc. Granted, I don't bark it at them and I praise them nicely when it's done right.

I think it's Kate's attitude that tarnishes what would sometimes be not so bad ideas.

Kate Don't Rate said...

A SHOE UP THE WAZZOOOOO

That's what Khate deserves.

What mother allows her 8 children to run WILD in a department store, while she indulgently buys shoes for herself??!!

When the whole point of the shopping trip was to outfit the KIDS with shoes for school!

SpoiledMom said...

Kids Need a Role Model said...
It's so sad that Kate no longer has Beth or another mature Christian friend in her life willing to sit her down and explain why wearing that little turquoise top (with a neckline that plunges to the navel) while telling the world about your youngest children starting kindergarten was completely inappropriate. Yet another reason why it's a good idea to keep your mother involved in your life...
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AWESOME!! Wish I had posted that! ;)

SpoiledMom said...

JoyinVirginia said...
...I just spent the weekend volunteering with school band activities, ... being the pit crew, sitting in the stands at football game cheering everyone on. .... Did I mention I have to be at football games in order to be a good band mom? Try that kinda sacrifice, Ms. Kreider! It is MUCH harder keeping up with kids and their activities in middle and high school, she just has no idea.
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Kate will have a mental breakdown when these kids reach high school, if not before they begin middle school. You are correct, it only gets harder keeping up with just the activities.
As fellow BAND MOM, I cheer you! Just returned from a Friday night game/band performance myself.
Kate will NEVER allow these kids to have any participation in after school activities or any organized sports. I am willing to bet money on it.
Kate would find it too annoying.
We all saw how far they got with the free piano and violin.
It is sad to think that the Gosselin kids will never enjoy the "real" experiences of their school years.
Everything in their "life" thus far has all been a fabrication. Kate will make sure to keep their school life boring as to not compete with "her schedule" of filming and travel.
My children have experienced both private and public school. While private school had advantages, my daughters are each very happy and enjoy public school, as well as the extra curricular activities they are involved in.
Kate will not "make" the time for her kids to have friends..except for the 5th bday party, why do we never see (or at least hear about) FRIENDS of the Gosselin kids?? (I understand filming, but there are such things as releases)
It is 12:30AM and I am about to make 3 dozen homemade chocolate chip cookies and sausage and biscuits for the high school band's competition tomorrow. We head out at 8am and will not be back until after midnight. Should I wear my hooker heels? heh

SpoiledMom said...

cossysmom said...

..did anyone catch this: when they were in the department store(you know that place they had never been to before)one of the boys was touching the breasts and crotch of the mannequins. I'm not finding fault with this...any child is fascinated by this. What I find interesting is that it was not edited out. It was very brief...just a nano second...but it was there!
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I caught that as well! I scanned the posts to see if anyone else caught it before I mentioned it. Like you, what fascinated me more was that it was NOT edited out! Was it left in the episode intentionally? An "easter egg" or perhaps a secret jab at Kate? If so, kudos to the editing.

On the other hand, it is another innocent moment in these children's lives caught on tape forever.

I have to admit, however, that watching the two boys point and touch the mannequins in "private areas" was a bit embarrassing. Children are inquisitive, but it was a little much that the boys were "feeling up" the mannequins. Additionally, the kids' behavior was atrocious and clearly showed that Kate has not taught them how to behave in public. What do we expect? Kate does not know how to behave, nor dress, in public for that matter. Kate's wretched screaming made MY ears bleed. How else are these children supposed to behave when they have Kate as their role model?

Vanessa said...

What a f%$#@*&g b&^%h! Always has been, always will be. Throwing the boxes of shoes at the kids? Screaming her head off when they all answer her about the sandwhiches. Moaning and groaning about EVERYTHING, get a grip woman, it's NOT that bad! And let me get this right, they come home and change out of their uniforms and PUT THEM IN THE DIRTY LAUNDRY HAMPER? I don't know about all you other moms but I DO NOT wash clothes after one wear! I see she's still using the paper plates. Nice carbon footprint she's leaving! And the shoe purchases!! I guess they've spun the editing again, instead of trying to HIDE things, and LIE, they're putting it all out there and even putting more emphasis on her totally innapropriate behviour. Also, I see she's been furnishing the house, lots of cabinets, chairs, art etc. I guess she thinks she's staying in that house for a bit longer. You think she'd open her wallet and get those kids out of the HIGH CHAIRS!

LancNative said...

I don't know about all you other moms but I DO NOT wash clothes after one wear!

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These are khaki shorts and white polo shirts. It's very seldom that I don't have to wash my kids' white polos and khakis after one wearing. I can send a child to school in the morning in a spanking white shirt and crisp, clean khakis, and not recognize him when I pick him up...crafts projects, PE, recess, mulch, grass stains, lunch -- something always ends up on the clothing. White shirts are a nightmare to keep clean, so yes, I can easily see why they get thrown in the laundry every day. Happens here on a daily basis, too.

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

Sorry, but being able to tie your shoes is a small motor skill important to future development.
When I have a 2nd or 3rd grade student who can't tie his shoes, he's also behind in MANY other skills.

Sunshine On My Shoulder said...

Sorry, but being able to tie your shoes is a small motor skill important to future development.
When I have a 2nd or 3rd grade student who can't tie his shoes, he's also behind in MANY other skills.

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Could it be that they COULD tie their own shoes if they had been taught? It has nothing to do with being behind in motor skills -- it's just that nobody has taken the time to show them how it's done, and has worked with them until the skill is learned.

WTH said...

Gosh I NEVER watch this show, but are you telling me (figuratively) that she told her kids in what ORDER to eat their (school) lunches??! Am I supposed to be doing that??? Cuz I have never even thought to do that...am I being negligent?? (lol)
Wow.

And about the mean-ness: I have always wondered about how come she is so mean. Actually, a very unhappy person. Is it "not her fault" (ie: her upbringing, mean parents, what?), or , did something "happen to" her...
Or is she just flat-out a Bad Seed?
There is just no excuse for a woman to be that mean, ALL the time. And TOTALLY unable to share any type of spotlight, even w/her OWN children. BUying herself shoes on a busy child-shoe-buying outing where your kids are already running amok? Surely it could've waited for one of her MANY , solo (well, except for STeve) outings.?

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

My point was that IF you can't tie your shoes you are probably unable to accomplish other small motor skills. I didn't say they were UNABLE if taught. Lack of those skills is a problem in writing for one small thing.
Also, when sitting in "circle" velcro shoe children tend to snap open and closed just to hear the sound, thus distracting them and other students.

Laundry Queen said...

I don't know about all you other moms but I DO NOT wash clothes after one wear!
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I used to not wash kid clothes after 1 wear but I do now. I noticed that when I took clothes out of the drawer that were "clean" but worn they had developed stains all over from invisible stuff on them. Whether it was food residue or sweat or whatever, I don't know, but they had yellowish stains everywhere and needed to be treated for stains and rewashed anyway. Now I always wash them regardless unless they had them on maybe an hour and are wearing them again the next day.

Chris said...

The 6 little ones ARE delayed. Last year, several of them weren't ready for kindergarten. Just on casual observation, they are behind in speech/language development, some are apparently behind in motor skill development, and they are behind in social skills. It's not unusual and not cause for alarm when a child exhibits a delay in one area, such as learning to tie shoes. When you have a number of delays across the board, then there is cause for concern. Without being able to administer a battery of tests, I can't say that the kids are developmentally delayed in the traditional sense. I suspect they aren't, but they have been retarded in their development, either deliberately, to make them appear younger and take advantage of the "cute" factor, or because of lack of exposure in the home.
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THANK YOU Reader Lady.

Three years ago I thought they needed to be tested and placed in the appropriate early intervention program(s). Many of the perceived deficits could have been taken care of and (possibly) all six of the tups could have been in first grade with their peers. My opinion remains that these six, beautiful, children have been intentionally disabled by their parents.

Ravello said...

I'm on the verge of tears as I write this. I remember my late father spending endless time with me teaching me to tie shoes, I really struggled. I'm pretty sure I had to tie my shoes before I started kindergarten.
I agree the tups are delayed in many developmental milestones primarily due to parental neglect. Kate cannot be bothered with her kids, she would rather escape to the nail salon. Somehow she and her Public relations people pulled off a huge scam- The Good Mother scam.

Hippie Chick said...

If the children are delayed in any way, I think it is because Kate wants it that way. It makes them seem "younger" to the viewing audience, & it is sickening. Still in highchairs at 6 yrs. old? Sippy cups? Are you kidding me? Kate wants them perpetually younger, sounding babyish, etc, because let's face it, & no offense to the twins, they don't bring in the ratings the tups supposedly do. (IMO, none of them do). Kate seems to think by making them all seem forever 3, 1)she can control them better & 2) she will always have a show. And I am sorry, they have all lost that cutesy factor. Some 6 year old kids are in between IMO, they are kind of in the awkward stage. But Kate, in her own twisted mind, wants to delay them, by not teaching them things, (aka tying shoes) & keeping them in highchairs. It's sick.

peggy devon said...

I think TLC reads this site. So, I hope they put Khate on the Bachelorette. I really want to see her do this show. Wouldn't it be fun? Yep, the hottub would be hilarious. After all, she keeps saying how horny, I mean lonely she is. So, let's make another one of her dreams come true. Let those Boobies out!!!! Finally!!!

Jane in California said...

Hippie Chick said:
If the children are delayed in any way, I think it is because Kate wants it that way. It makes them seem "younger" to the viewing audience, & it is sickening. Still in highchairs at 6 yrs. old? Sippy cups? Are you kidding me?
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There's absolutely no valid reason that 6 year old children, with no physical problems such as cerebral palsy, etc., should still be using high chairs. I have a sister who has Downs Syndrome, and she was sitting in a regular chair by age 5. I think she had a little booster seat but she wanted out of that high chair and my parents felt she should be encouraged to develop in any way.

I definitely agree that Kate purposely tries to make the sextuplets look and act younger than their real age, to extend the supposed "cuteness" factor. However, she's gone way too far and now it's an "ickness" factor that's kicking in. Dressing them in matching clothing, making them use babyish sippy cups and sit in high chairs -- it's disturbing. I wouldn't be surprised to see her try to put one of them in the front part of a shopping cart!

This may also be in part because Kate is so disconnected from her own childrens' reality. They've never been much more than dress up dolls to her anyway.

Jane in California said...

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said:
Also, when sitting in "circle" velcro shoe children tend to snap open and closed just to hear the sound, thus distracting them and other students.
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Maybe so, but that's a situation for the teacher to handle. All I can say for certain is that in my son's preschool and kindergarten classes, there were plenty of kids who wore velcro shoes. It was never a problem. Sitting in circle time, little kids do all sorts of distracting things - because they're little and can't sit still and be quiet for long. Most preschool and kindergarten teachers are equipped to deal with this phenomenon. :)

Anyway, back to the topic -- if your kindergarten-aged child doesn't know how to tie his or her own shoes, it's not cause for alarm. However, if there are other milestones that he/she hasn't accomplished yet, then you might want to look at the whole picture and seek professional advice.

Knowing Kate, even if she was given good advice and told to enroll her children in some early intervention programs - she would likely turn a deaf ear. If it isn't in furtherance of the program, making money, or something "interesting" to be filmed, she isn't interested.

fidosmommy said...

Before the little kids went off to
pre-K, Kate had them working with scissors. They had no idea how to cut with scissors. Kate admitted she had not taken the time, so she was trying to teach them in one craft lesson at the kitchen table.

Didn't Kate pose for cameras on the driveway (wearing a really low cut black babydoll dress) and hand out summer homework for the kids?
Might that not have been a good time to ask them each to go get one of their shoes with laces and
have a lace-tying lesson?

Oh, wait, that would have meant that Kate would have actually had to buy and pay for lacing shoes for 6 kids. Never mind. No freebies, no shoe tying lesson over the summer......

So, an alternative might have been to punch holes into individual pieces of cardboard and let them practice on that. Anything would have done.

leighann said...

Kate sure does go out of her way to make things difficult. I guess so everyone can have sympathy for her. There was no need to take the kids to the department store. She was buying uniforms so no real selections to make and I don't think anyone tried anything on. Just make out a list of each kid's size and pieces they need and leave the kids with the N-A-N and go by yourself. The kids were spreading out and running through the toys because they were bored. So what does she do with eight bored kids? Shops for shoes for herself. The kids weren't getting shoes, they got theirs at Stride Rite. And I can't believe she didn't stop the kids when they started fighting over the big Croc. I guess they were out of her hair, so she wasn't worried.

And for the backpacks, since they have their initials on them, I'd probably buy eight of the same and be done with it. Or one color for girls and one for boys so Aidan's and Alexis's and Cara's and Colin's don't get mixed up.

About the shoes, if I had six kindergartners to get going I'd do velcro, too. Every pair of tennies my daughter (eight years old) has ever owned has had laces. She learned to tie them in pre-k but didn't really get good until first grade. And even now she's still kind of slow at it. It takes fine motor skills and coordination, which take time to develop, besides lots of practice. I don't think we'd have lost anything teaching her later when she was more coordinated. I don't know if any of her friends can tie laces, I never seen anyone in shoes that have them. Everyone has those criss-cross things, Crocs or other slip ones. And it can be hard to find them. We shop at the Stride Rite outlet and they'll have 10 styles of tennie shoes and only two will have laces.

I think making a list of who wants mayo and who wants mustard on their sandwich is a good idea. I'd never keep it straight. After 11 years of marriage, I still find myself standing in front of the lunch meat display trying to remember if it's pastrami or salami my husband doesn't like. I'd be sure to give mayo and cheese to the kid that likes mustard and baloney.

Pony said...

Here's a thought - Kate could teach the kids to make their own sandwiches. It's not exactly rocket science. She could set out a loaf of bread, a jar of mustard, a jar of mayo, a some butter knives, a pack of bologna, and a pack of cheese slices. Each kid could spread the condiment of his/her choice on the bread, slap a cheese slice down along with a slice of bologna, put the second piece of bread on top, and stick it in the plastic bag. She wouldn't have to remember anything. But - oh - I forgot, that would require Kate to actually teach her kids a skill.

Can't See Sheep said...

Jane in California said...
Knowing Kate, even if she was given good advice and told to enroll her children in some early intervention programs - she would likely turn a deaf ear. If it isn't in furtherance of the program, making money, or something "interesting" to be filmed, she isn't interested.
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I'm sure if someone else offered to pick up the tab kate would have sent the kids whever they needed to go. The problem always occurs when kate has to pay for things to do with her children herself. If the show ends & any of the other kids need braces they probably won't get them unless Jon pays for them. I have never seen a mother so unwilling to pay for the needs of her own chidlren.

IMO the children are delayed because of neglect. kate doesn't have the patience to teach anyone anything. All of these things are going to fall to Jon or the teachers to teach them. It's sad & it's unnecessary, she is the one who brought these children into this world, now she needs to sit down & properly look after them instead of pawning them off on anyone she can.

If she can't cope then she needs to get her butt to a therapist & get her problems looked after so she can, instead of making her children suffer for her problems. Be an adult for once & do the adult thing. It's like she stopped maturing mentally & emotionally in junior high & is stuck there or something.

peggy devon said...

May the reports of a cancellation be true. Khate ruined this all by herself, yes she did. She never has anyone to blame but herself and, of course, Jon. They did not need acres and acres of land. A 4 bedroom home with 1.5 bath and a basement would have been fine. Now, she can hope she can maintain the land and that house. If Jon is keeping those children off TV? Or ratings sunk, whatever. She can now back pedal to her family to help her. She can downsize, although she probably has $$. She is not a Mom who wants to be with those kids. She needs to just disappear from the Media. Stop the craziness in the lives of those children and let them have a good year in school. Wait a year and during this year, get some psychiatric help to become aware of yourself. You had everything in that smoke/mirrors world handed to you and guess what? You do not have talent, you have no training to be a co host/interviewer. Take some of the money and go do it, get training. You have enough of a following to get yourself back in the Media, of course, after you appear on Celebrity apprentice, The Bachelorette and Dr. Drew's Rehab. Khate, it's been great fun, hasn't it? All of those freebees? Onward to the future and the consignment shop.Remember Psychiatric help FIRST, then Training...Repeat That or I will scream. Follow the Order.

leighann said...

Also, when sitting in "circle" velcro shoe children tend to snap open and closed just to hear the sound, thus distracting them and other students.
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That made me laugh. My brother always fiddled with his laces during circle time, so his teacher suggested velcro shoes. They were brand new at the time, hard to find and expensive. But my brother had all kinds of problems in school and if that would cure one problem, my mom was all for it. So she tracked them down and bought them. Then my brother sat is circle time and undid and re-did them. I have a great sound effect, but can't spell it. So instead of just him being distracted, it was the whole class. So much for that idea.

Bathroom Babes said...

They did not need acres and acres of land. A 4 bedroom home with 1.5 bath and a basement would have been fine.
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I agree with the acreage, but 1.5 bath just wouldn't cut it! A full bath in the master is typical. She would never allow them to share her bath. A half bath in the hall could be a problem in the morning, and at shower time, unless they took a bath in the sink! I can't imagine eight kids lined up to use a half bath!

Brummygirl said...

peggy devon said...
I think TLC reads this site. So, I hope they put Khate on the Bachelorette.
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They would have to actually pay any men to go opposite her.
I can just see her at the rose ceremony:

Kate: "Sit on the floor and only get up if and when I call your name..DO NOT move until I tell you to.
Hands up those who heard me!!
No hugging me after accepting a rose, I don't do feelings!

At the presentation of the letter which states they may use the fantasy suite together if they choose.

Kate: "Here is the letter for you to read but don't bank on any touchy feely stuff plus my bodyguard will be in the room".

Contestant: No thanks, I've heard about your family planning.

dustilies said...

Pony said . . .

Here's a thought - Kate could teach the kids to make their own sandwiches. It's not exactly rocket science.

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Excellent point, Pony!

Kate just seems too clueless to understand that the kids--even the tups--are old enough now to do a lot for themselves, and that they would want to!

Instead of the chaos of asking each kid for their preferences, why not let them do it themselves? Let them take responsibility for those condiments and the cheese and lettuce dilemmas.

If that is too messy. at least teach the kids the value of good handwriting and spelling and have them write what they want in their lunchbox after hearing the choices on offer (turkey/peanut butter grapes/ apple, etc.)

We all get how having 8 kids in the infant to toddler ages would be completely exhausting. But any mom with half a brain realizes how much kids can help with their own care and with household chores by the time they are 6. And, again, how much satisfaction they get from making a contribution or taking charge of their own needs (like lunchbox, hair care, backpack organization).

Kate's an idiot--she prefers the "poor me" stance to the collaborative team effort that a large family can offer.

Rose said...

"Instead of the chaos of asking each kid for their preferences, why not let them do it themselves?"
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The answer is simple: because if the kids were shown making their own sandwiches, sitting themselves down for lunch and actually exhibiting more independence, Kate wouldn't be able to run around like the poor, put-upon single mom who must "tend to the lunchly duties" and do it all alone, without any help. If the kids were doing more for themselves, cleaning up their own messes and making their own sandwiches, it would be safe to assume that the parent could breathe a little easier and not be running around so much. Granted, Kate doesn't actually run all over for those kids (unless a camera is there to film it)--it's a matter of giving off the impression that she's doing that. If the children still look like helpless babies who rely on her, then she looks like the overworked single mother who is practically a saint for handling all those little ones by herself. Count 'em, eight. Don't forget, there's eight of them! And Kate is doing it alone!

Katykat said...

Due to my husband's work, like the Gosselin kids, my son had a lot of travel under his belt by the time he went to kindergarten. This travel gave him an emotional/experiential maturity that I don't see in the tups. He could read a metro/tube map, had a basic understanding of currency exchange, could find our flight, understood time differences,pack his own bag, etc. Once a man jokingly asked him, "So, did you try the fish and chips in London?" And Adam shot right back, "Yes! Have you tried the hagis in Scotland?" Now my son is NOT gifted, just experienced. I don't see the Gosselins drawing on any past experiences or having learned very much with their travels to give them any sort of maturity. What a waste. Their parents have really wasted golden opportunities to enrich their children.

Sunshine On My Shoulder said...

"Oh how awful. A single mom having to clothe all those children at her own expense and all those expensive school supplies."

Actually, in April, along with the work permits, the state required a trust to be set up for the children. She may use those funds for educational purposes, which include school supplies and uniforms. So...the kids are paying for their own supplies and clothing.