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Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

For some bizarre reason, it dawned on me that the tups will be 19 when they graduate from high school...
I hope they're still not eating dolled out grapes from prison plates and drinking (beer) from sippy cups!

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

...sorry doled out grapes...
My dream is to see them with placemats, china plates, glasses (with milk???), actual silverware, and napkins.

Just Wondering said...

It's been over a year....did JonBoy ever go back to WORK?

If not, how rich WAS his dad??? On what income is this Peter Pan living?

fidosmommy said...

I've been thinking about the age of the kids at graduation too.

I recognize that the SCHOOL does readiness testing to determine if a child is ready for a certain grade. Got it.

However, if it was borderline, with some of the children being ready and others not, parent(s)
might be given some input on what
happens next.

So, with Kate being Kate, is it possible she thought hmmmm, if my kids have a good year (plus) on their classmates, they might have a leg up on them scholastically and physically. They might go to the head of the class, get college scholarships from either sports or
academics, and then I won't have to pay for them to go to school even if the TAP funds are empty!

It's just a wild thought, not any kind of factual pondering.

Hippie Chick said...

@ Hard to Keep Loving Jon, at that point, they have the right to do & say what they want, they will be over 18 & will at that point have probably told Mother-dear to hoof it. Some might opt to get their GED, just to get some privacy. With all the embarrassing videos out there that the other kids will have at their disposal to make fun of them with (thanks Kate!), I wouldn't blame them one bit.
What happens when the one who Kate put on laundry room floor gets sick at school? What will the other kids say to him? "Oh, will mommy put you on the floor again?" Poor, poor kids...

Pony said...

Fidosmommy, while you pose an interesting scenario, I'm not convinced that Kate is smart enough to realize that lots of parents hold their kids back from kindergarten for the reasons you give. I think she just figured that if the sextuplets were only going to school 3 days a week, they could film on the other two days.

dustilies said...

So the tups will be some of the oldest kids in their senior class . . . I don't think Kate thinks ahead to things like scholarships. I wonder what her aspirations for her children are? Like, do she and Jon value team sports? achievements in the arts? community service? academic excellence in science or humanities? I don't have a sense that they have ever thought that through in any systematic way.

I don't mean that I think parents should (or can!!!) dictate a specific plan for their kids' pre-teen and teenage years--but by the fourth grade, I think most kids have gotten clear messages from their parents about what they value.

Good parents, of course, also watch what talents emerge in their kids and are flexible enough to embrace and nurture them. (Hey, even Tony and Carmela Soprano tried to encourage AJ's interest in "event planning"!)

No evidence, so far, that the Gosselin parents are doing any individuation beside a kind of branding of the kids (Collin the helper boy, etc.). Sure, I'm speculating, but putting kids above the age of three in matchy-matchy outfits speaks loud and clear to me.

PS: What sucks for the Gosselin kids is that even though they may be the oldest kids in their class, they still won't be able to pass for old enough to buy beer--everyone will know who they are.

moneytalks said...

Wondering said...
It's been over a year....did JonBoy ever go back to WORK?

If not, how rich WAS his dad??? On what income is this Peter Pan living?


IMO,Jon is living on TLC 'hush' money . The money he received for selling his 8 children to TLC and keeping his trap shut while the ENTIRE Gosselin family remain under contract with TLC.

Button Button said...

Just Wondering said...
It's been over a year....did JonBoy ever go back to WORK?

If not, how rich WAS his dad??? On what income is this Peter Pan living?

7/31/2010 7:22 AM


Jon is doing very well. He is being paid by TLC to keep his trap shut and stay out of the mag rags.

I had hoped he wouldn't fold, but he did.

College Shmallege said...

I think Kate believes the scholarships will be awarded to her kids even if they aren't athletic or academic or earned them. She probably thinks colleges will be recruiting her kids just based on who they are...and the sad thing is, this is probably gonna be true. Everything is already handed to them on a silver platter.

Kate most likely doesn't ever worry about how to pay for college. She puts on a good act about worrying ( her excuse for needing to film ), but deep down she knows it won't be an issue because her kids are so special that colleges will also provide freebies and free rides.

Mary said...

Button Button

why is the birth mom not working? why is she making her children work. Why can't these children go any where except school where they are not be filmed by TLC and the TLC Paps. (We know the school will not let them near the school. We all know no one else cares about her. Why do these children not have large bank accounts for all the work they have done since the birt mother gave birth. Have you ever saw her hug, smile at her children off camera
Have you noticed when Kate lets the childen see Jon all the hugs and smiles on children? go back and look at photo's when kate picks them up and look at when jon picks them up.

It would be great for these kids to go on a real vacation not where they have to work or have a TLC video or still camera. alos watch kids now hidding thier faces

Mary

Mary said...

Hi

Your kidding Katie's children play sports??? to play sports you have to get dirty. Katie's children are to afraid of getting dirty. Grass stains on the clothes, pine tar, just dirt. we all saw how afraid one of the boys were because he might get dirty

so forget playing any sports. Maybe the twins will break out. But Katie will keeeps the tubs babies as long as she can and when school complains she get a home tudor. But we all know kate will be off trying to get her own tv show or co-host the view. I can wait to see Katie on survior or Katie and Steve on Amazing Race
hey I can dream

Mary

PA Mom Knows said...

"Why can't these children go any where except school where they are not be filmed by TLC and the TLC Paps."

They do. It's just not filmed to protect the privacy of other kids/peers. Surprise, huh?

"Grass stains on the clothes, pine tar, just dirt. we all saw how afraid one of the boys were because he might get dirty
so forget playing any sports. Maybe the twins will break out."

The twins do play sports. The tups will have P.E., and believe me, they will get dirty, and there are plenty of playground activities that do contribute to grass stains on their clothing.

whenwillthefatladysing said...

RE: The tups college funds.

It would be interesting to know the amount of $$ that people were suckered in to deposting in to the tups college fund accounts that were established by the Mayor of PA. Does the $$ in a TAP ccount acquire interest over the years? I wonder if the $$$, and any transactions that occurred on said accounts,were brought in to question during the J & K divorce proceedings? I had read that ,although this type of account is established for the purpose of funding a college education, the beneficiaries can withdrawl monies to be used for other purposes. Considering the fact that the Mayor of PA established these accounts SPECIFICALLY for the purpose of funding the tups college education, and the individuals who deposited monies in said accounts did so with the understanding that said money would be utilized for the tups college education , the use of said monies for ANY purpose other than college education , IMO constitutes fraud.

ICExploitation said...

For some bizarre reason, it dawned on me that the tups will be 19 when they graduate from high school...

If Kate has her way they'll still be in Kindergarten at that age.

Whats going to happen said...

Kate uses and tosses people to the side when they no longer serve her purpose. Wonder what she's going to do w/the kids once they no longer generate good rtings nd the show is cancelled.

JaxMom said...

If the kids can afford to stay at the school they're at, then they'll be on the college prep route. I went to a similar school for my entire schooling, and I can't think of one person who did not go onto a regular four year college (usually Ivy League or other elite schools).

I understand that some of the tups may not have been ready...and honestly, I think that was a great opportunity to separate them and let them be individuals. Oh well.

I can see Jon trying to help them follow their dreams--but I see Kate trying to keep them all as one indistinguishable unit.

No doubt with school starting soon, the kids are on a mad-filming binge. Hoping for peace for them come September.

NT said...

GossipCenter has pics of Kate in her routine of pampering herself while Jon has the kids.

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

Play sports?
Are you kidding?
We parents who had kids in sports know it's nearly a full time job getting them to practice, picking them up from practice, car pooling, games early Saturday and Sunday mornings...
PLUS, it means you have to interact cooperatively with other parents, attend meetings, potlucks, etc.
PLUS, it means your kids make new friends and have relationships outside of the orphanage. That means you have to deliver and pick up your child from friends' houses and parties. I have a suspicion
that Khate will not like that. We all know the saying, "familiarity breeds contempt."

bonehead said...

Saw the pics from the PA airport. Yeah, one pics of the kids actually looking happy and it was only 2 of the Tups. The rest of the pics, there is no smiles. And who is the woman helper? I've notice that she travel a lot with Kate even dresses like Kate and wheres her hair like Kate? eeeK! A Kate wannabe? or is she and Kate a 2 some ot 3 some with Steve.

Tizzie said...

JaxMom said...

No doubt with school starting soon, the kids are on a mad-filming binge. Hoping for peace for them come September.

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Have those kids had ANY time this summer to actually play, have fun, be happy and actually be kids???

They're 6 and 10 and they are travelling like adults on a world tour, except not having any fun.

PA Mom Knows said...

"Considering the fact that the Mayor of PA established these accounts SPECIFICALLY for the purpose of funding the tups college education,"

PA doesn't have a mayor. It was established by the late Catherine Baker Knoll, State Treasurer, in 2005.
You can read about it here:

http://www.pahouse.com/PR/151043007.pdf

PA Mom Knows said...

...and here...

http://www.savingforcollege.com/529_plan_details/index.php?page=plan_details&plan_id=45

This should answer your questions about the TAP account established for the kids.

fidosmommy said...

Unless the twins play sports on the weekends or in the middle of the night, I have to question when they have time to play organized sports. Physical Ed classes during school, sure. But to be on a sports team? When? They leave for school before it gets light most mornings, and they get home
probably 4:30 or so. Then there's homework, dinner..... and then a trip back into town or back out to the school for sports events?

I don't know how it will ever happen with the younger children, especially if they all like something different. Gymnastics for Leah, soccer for Collin, swimming for Hannah, basketball for Joel....

Then there is the filming schedule.
When do these kids have time to
attend hockey practice?

22starz said...

Kate HAS never thought about what is best for the kids.All she has ever thought about is getting rich and becoming a celebrity.She has made it pretty damn clear that she dosent care who she steps on on the way up...the kids included!Get in her way,and she'll toss you to the curb!

As for college for the kids...they have worked enough and should have enough money to pay for it if they choose to go.

But this reminds me of when Ellen asked kate about the kids getting cars when they reached the age.Kate snorted and said when they get jobs they can buy thier own cars!!!
They are working and have been working since day 1...just like you dear kate.If being filmed is your job then its the kids's also...they are doing what you are doing!

I dont see the kids getting free college when the time comes. Its over 12 years away.By then people are not going to remember anything about the Go$$elins.They are a flash in the pan ,and thier fame is going to burn out soon! The sooner the better!

AnotherLisa said...

At the Philly Airport, Steve Nield was wearing a bright orange polo shirt... just like the 3 tup boys!!!

Like father, like sons!

So strange that Kate would dress them ALL in the same uniform.

emschick1128 said...

Kate is way to lazy and selfish to ever take the time to involve the kids in sports. I remember when my 4 kids were young I used to joke that my neighbors probably though I was a drug dealer since as soon as I pulled in the driveway I'd be in the house for a few minutes then back out the door to either pick up or drop off someone else. It also means being social with the commoners(ie, other parents) which of course our Queen could never lower herself to do. I'm sure she never even bothers to go to any open house of parents night at their school. She makes me sick.

Aunt Chris said...

I notice in the GosspiCenter pics, that the tups,of course, are dressed alike. More disturbing that just that is that STEVE is wearing the same shirt as the boys. Are they supposed to identify with him as a father figure, or is he another one of Kate's kids? Creepy.

dustilies said...

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said

re kids doing sports:

it means you have to interact cooperatively with other parents, attend meetings, potlucks, etc.

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You're so right! That kind of social interaction must be high on Kate's list of Things I Do Not Do. (Remember when she didn't like to drive the kids "hither, thither, and yon" ? Guess that's changed, so long it is her nail salon, tanning booth, and coffeehouse that are HTY)

Seriously, one of the hard things about parenting that caught me off guard is the new category of relationship: parents of my kids' friends. Not people I picked as friends, but significant social relationships nonetheless. Very tricky much of the time. But I do it for my kids. (insert eyeroll. Maybe two)

Minka's tail said...

"The twins do play sports. The tups will have P.E., and believe me, they will get dirty, and there are plenty of playground activities that do contribute to grass stains on their clothing."

PA Mom: You've hinted before that the twins at least have a normal life away from the camera. I hope that info is accurate, for the girls' sake.

PE class is mandatory and inescapable, like a shower whilst climbing onto an airplane in a tiny airport. That does not count the same as playing extracurricular sports, which requires some sacrifice on the parents' part.

If Cara and Mady are on some team, it's odd that, with all the "candid" pictures of them, we've never seen them in uniform, nor has Kate ever mentioned it on her blog or anywhere else.
This is the type of thing she'd brag/complain about ad nauseum, I would think.

heylookatme said...

AnotherLisa said...
At the Philly Airport, Steve Nield was wearing a bright orange polo shirt... just like the 3 tup boys!!!

Like father, like sons!

So strange that Kate would dress them ALL in the same uniform.


I was so distracted by Kate wearing a BLACK bra under a see thru top to notice the 'body gaurd' and his matchy matchy shirt.
Seriously, you can tell my the fabric of the shirt Kate is wearing that it is see thru and thin. Is Kate REALLY that dumb to not think to wear a cami/tank under that type shirt when wearing a black bra or is she REALLY REALLY that desperate for attention?!

BeDoneNow said...

Minka's tail said...
...If Cara and Mady are on some team, it's odd that, with all the "candid" pictures of them, we've never seen them in uniform, nor has Kate ever mentioned it on her blog or anywhere else.
This is the type of thing she'd brag/complain about ad nauseum, I would think.

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Kate? Talk about anything other than KATE? Never gonna happen, not even with the earpiece.

If the children INSIST on somekind of outside activity that Kate can't command them out of, she will simply have a not-a-nanny drive them around. Kate is much too busy, and exhausted, (and exhausted and busy) to be bothered with anything that is not completely KATE-focused.

And that includes college education for the children. She could care less. She only mentions it now and then because she thinks she is SUPPOSED to care about it.

I believe there have been times when Kate does make an attempt to ACT 'normal'. It is an effort for her however, and those attempts are getting fewer and farther between as she becomes more convinced that she is above anything 'normal'.

Ohio Buckeye said...

So, what's the story with "Twisted K8"? Is TLC still planning to back this lame horse?

If so, once the kids are in school this fall (so less available for TLC's exploitation of them) I'm guessing "Twisted K8" will be all the excuse K8G needs to yet again constantly be away filming.

Yet she hearts and misses her children SOOOO much. AND she hates the papparazzi following her. Yeah, sure. And to quote her new BFF, Sarah Palin: "you betcha'".

If K8G really wanted to escape the notoriety and obtrusive photographers, she could always move to Alaska - I'm doubting the p people are a big problem in that neck of the woods. Besides, she and Sarah could always stand the kids on their front porch so they could all see Russia!

Sport said...

You guys bring up a great point about the kids playing sports.

With the size of that backyard, and the fact they have a FULL TEAM, I cant believe they aren't playing whiffle ball, Nerf football, croquet and other fun stuff out there! My kids and I would love to have a 'bigger team' of players to play with...

Besides I never hear of them doing anything physical (correct me if I am wrong i don't watch the show.) Kids need exercise - activity. They also LOVE to be involved and have things to do. With an Army that size why isn't (K)Hate actively involving them in chores and daily tasks? It seems with that many people there is plenty to do around the house just to keep it going?

Oh yeah - because she doesn't do ANYTHING herself.

Lorrie said...

I really think part of the reason Jon tries to show his kids such a good time when they're with him is that, at least on some level, he feels guilty that he's contributed to selling them out. I hope he sometimes reflects on how his children must be feeling, being dragged all over the country like luggage on their all too short summer vacation.

Hope spending your day Tweeting, playing videogames and lazing around on your butt (on TLC's dime, natch) is worth your peace of mind, Jon.

Aunt Chris said...

Another observation about the GossipCenter pics - why are the "real" body guard and the nannie (Ashley?) holding kids hands on the escalator, but Kate is clutching the handrails for herself with at least the twins and one girl tup not hold any hands? She's so concerned for the safety of her kids isn't she?

Rose said...

Saw this comment posted on a fan site, and I thought it was just frightening and sad enough to share here:
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"My two younger girls are huge Kate fans! They love watching Kate Plus 8 and love to play being Kate and listen in on all their fun!"
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It scares me a little that a grown woman with children of her own likes to "play being Kate". No, scratch that - it scares me a lot that she would not only say that, but that she considers their TLC-planned-and-mandated adventures to be "fun". Sounds like that woman needs some help in separating fantasy from reality...and it convinces me even more that the Gosselin kids are not safe. Kate may say they are perfectly fine, but when there is that much public awareness and an unhealthy obsession that people have with their family, it can't be good.

Midnight Serenade said...

"It scares me a little that a grown woman with children of her own likes to "play being Kate"."

In the quote you provided, the writer states that her younger children enjoy playing Kate, NOT that the woman plays Kate. This is just as frightening -- to think that a mother watches her daughters take on the role of Kate Gosselin. Kids see her as a role model? Heaven help the future mothers of this planet!

MayDay said...

I posted last week that I thought Carla's daughter Ashley was with the Gosselins in Alaska. Isn't this her?
http://www.gossipcenter.com/kate-gosselin/photo/kate-gosselin-1128
Why doesn't Ashley tell us what is going on?

Pa Mom Knows said...

'
"they leave for school before it gets light most mornings, and they get home
probably 4:30 or so. Then there's homework, dinner..... and then a trip back into town or back out to the school for sports events?"

Games are held immediately after school.

BeDoneNow said...

Gee. It's August 1st. Any word from "Spoke Per Non"? our own little sheriff? maybe she got held over in summer school?

jibberjabbers said...

MayDay said...

Why doesn't Ashley tell us what is going on?

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Because she works for Kate not us. What does she "gain" by blabbing everything to "us?" She's hired to help, not to blab to the media or update her blog about the Gosselins..

dustilies said...

BeDoneNow said...

Gee. It's August 1st. Any word from "Spoke Per Non"? our own little sheriff? maybe she got held over in summer school?

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Oh. *yawn* Could you please pass the Doritos?

(Snark not directed toward YOU, dear BDNow!)

Brummygirl said...

heylookatme said:
Is Kate REALLY that dumb to not think to wear a cami/tank under that type shirt when wearing a black bra or is she REALLY REALLY that desperate for attention?!
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Yup......desperate in P.A.

Tami said...

If the twins are enrolled in sports and every game is played right after school, this is very unusual. What opposing teams do the play? Does every team have to come to THEIR school? Do the twins get taken to some other school to play opposing teams? If so, we know Khate would not be the one doing this since she doesn't even go near their school and they are bussed daily. SO they are allowed to get on a sports bus and go to games their mother will never attend or what? Fascinating. I'm sure they'd love a nanny or Steve cheering in the stands.

If they are just playing each other and not other teams, I don't see it as organized sports that normal kids play. I do believe I've heard of Cara playing soccer, but have a hard time picturing Mady in sports. She has said she does not like athletic activities and I think she'd have a hard time with team sports or being on the losing end.

I'm pretty sure Khate would not allow the 6 to be in sports and have to go to other schools and compete. They would not be under her thumb and would have to much exposure to the outside world. Doing this would be like Michelle Duggar allowing the girls to go to a sleepover or to the mall alone without the dozens of little siblings they are responsible for.

BeDoneNow said...

dustilies said...
BeDoneNow said...

Gee. It's August 1st. Any word from "Spoke Per Non"? our own little sheriff? maybe she got held over in summer school?

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Oh. *yawn* Could you please pass the Doritos?

(Snark not directed toward YOU, dear BDNow!)
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LOL hugs to you dustilies! here, have some dip while I go get into proper GWoP dress code!

Ojdå said...

So I was watching the first part of the birthday surprise episode on youtube (didn't bother watching the rest of it) but in the comments there are many people going "omg see, they like being on camera! See how they say everything is back to normal?"

Actually I find it kind of sad. I really doubt it's the cameras being there but the crew who seem to care about the kids and are probably some of the only people who are nice to them.

Also, are they going to be 20 and still trying to squeeze into those high chairs?!

winsomeone said...

Tami said...

If the twins are enrolled in sports and every game is played right after school, this is very unusual. What opposing teams do the play?


Since the twins were just 9 last year and in the third grade, I can't imagine them playing any real organized sports at that age? Maybe they just have school teams that play each other? And who said they play sports anyway...Kate? How would anyone know what they do, unless their child actually played sports with one of the twins..think this is just another "fable" that's been passed along..Mady is musical, and Cara is athletic. Might be as true as "Kate is afraid of heights."

Sport said...

With that many kids, this family is essentially a snapshot of our society and youth. That means that a few of the kids will be interested in a musical instrument, a couple will want to play sports, some might be drawn to gymnastics at that age, maybe another might be a budding artist, maybe dance for a few, a couple readers, a few might enjoy cooking with mom (hahah, as if), etc...etc...

Do you think (K)Hate takes the time to be a parent and recognize and nurture EACH kids talents and interests? Or Jon for that matter?

We all know there is no time left in the day for the kids after the appearances (both staged and 'impromptu'), the filming, nail appointments, hair appointments, interviews, tanning salons, spas, fake shopping photo ops, jogging and all the other contrived B.S. she pretends to busy herself with every day.

It's time for these media-clowns to slow down and look at their kids for once and do the right thing and be parents.

iamca said...

Perhaps she would attempt coaching a cleaner sport or club. She can interact with her kids and still be in the spotlight.

Anonymous said...

Just like in many other communities, there are plenty of activities in the area should K decide her kids want to play sports: Wilson Jr Soccer Club starts at U6, there are many summer/winter swimming programs (one of her neighbors is a summer age-group coach), cheerleading, football & basketball (Van Reed), hockey and ice skating @ Body Zone, softball & baseball (STAA) etc. The opportunities are all there. It's up to her to allow the children to grow in new directions should they have the interest.

Elspeth said...

Has anyone else noticed not only how much Kate acts like Dina Lohan but how much she's starting to look like her? Creepy.

Elspeth said...

Has anyone else noticed not only how much Kate acts like Dina Lohan but how much she's starting to look like her? Creepy.

sillyrabbit said...

Elspeth said...
Has anyone else noticed not only how much Kate acts like Dina Lohan but how much she's starting to look like her? Creepy.

Scrolling thru 'celeb' photos and gossip, at first glance, I have many times mistaken Dina Lohan for Kate Gosselin.

Jane in California said...

dustlilies said:
Seriously, one of the hard things about parenting that caught me off guard is the new category of relationship: parents of my kids' friends. Not people I picked as friends, but significant social relationships nonetheless. Very tricky much of the time. But I do it for my kids. (insert eyeroll. Maybe two)
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You can say that three or four more times! For my job, I must interact daily with people and I do it well. I put on the persona, I know what I'm doing and so I can comfortably engage and talk every day with various people. But in my personal life, I am much less outgoing.

So I wouldn't knock Kate for not having the personality type that likes to interact a lot with other adults. However, as dustlilies said, when you are a parent, you should make a genuine effort to "make nice" with the other children and adults in your child's life.

Common courtesy, social graces, good manners - those are wonderful skills that everyone should have. Sadly, Kate has none of those. Since she doesn't have those skills, the children will have to (hopefully) pick those skills up elsewhere, or else they face an adult life full of misunderstandings.

jules said...

Winsome said "Since the twins were just 9 last year and in the third grade, I can't imagine them playing any real organized sports at that age?"

My kids were playing organized sports at ages 4-5. They were playing "Under 6" Soccer and T-ball. Both sports had weekly practices along with at least one game. There are lots of athletic activities for kids in their age range. While not all of the Gosselin's may enjoy team sports, some of them certainly would. I agree that we don't really know what's going on because Kate only let's the outside world know what she wants. The whole think is pitiful from beginning to end.

Hippie Chick said...

Don't know if this has been posted, sorry if it has...

http://news.bostonherald.com/entertainment/television/general/view.bg?articleid=1271612

Hippie Chick said...

heylookatme said:
Is Kate REALLY that dumb to not think to wear a cami/tank under that type shirt when wearing a black bra or is she REALLY REALLY that desperate for attention?!

Let's face facts. Kate needs a stylist. She is so out of touch with what Hollywood celebrities wear, it's pathetic. Most celebrities dress down, as to not draw attention to themselves, not our Katie Irene! She wants all eyes on her. Plus, her clothes of choice are really, uh, what's the word...whorish. She never dresses her age. And when she attempts to, she comes off looking ridiculous. She has no clue how to "fit in" with Hollywood standards, IMO, just by reading InTouch & US Weekly. Those stars are always well put together & look appropriately dressed, for their age. Kate is in PA also, & that makes it all the more pathetic. If she was walking around LA dressed like that, I would think people would be laughing at her, & not just for the way she dresses...

Hippie Chick said...

Sorry to post again MODS!! From Entertainment Weekly's Hit List: Kate Gosselin reportedly to go camping with Sarah Palin in Alaska. Okay, at least we got her out of the contiguous U.S. Baby Steps...

I laughed out loud on that one! Even my Entertainment Weekly has her number!! :)

PA Mom Knows said...

"Kate is in PA also, & that makes it all the more pathetic.'

Hey! We don't all dress like Amish and Mennonites here...no aprons and bonnets! There are some of us who actually do dress with the times! Only a few, though, prefer hookerish attire!

winsomeone said...

"My kids were playing organized sports at ages 4-5. They were playing "Under 6" Soccer and T-ball. Both sports had weekly practices along with at least one game."

We have those too, but around here, they are not connected with the schools, but are summer time sports connected to the city usually? I thought we were discussing school sports, so didn't think about the summer ones, and the various camps kids can attend.

NT said...

I can't believe there are 2 new hour long episodes of Kate plus 8 on tv on wednesday. 9pm and 10pm. I thought these were suppose to be specials once in awhile not every other week. Those kids are working hard for the money.

balance.... said...

As for all the talk about sports and such... I think what people are talkng about (I hate to speak for anyone, but I think there is some confusion...) is BALANCE.

Its important to have balance in life. For adults, its that balance between work, play and fmaily and everything. For most kids, its a balance between school, playing, excercise, friends.


For the Gosselin kids, sadly enough, I think what people would like to see is a BALANCE between work and play. If nothing else.

If that means scouts, sports, art classes etc. or whatever... as long as there is something that is the CHILDS, and is their way to express themself or to have as an outlet for the stress or 'whatever' of their lives.

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

Saw happy, happy faces of tups on INF. Wish they looked that that in each and every photo!

realitybites said...

Watched a few minutes of the Jon Turns 30 re run episode that aired today. Comparing Kate wearing a tankini on the beach at Key West to present day, it is MORE than obvious that Kate HAS had breast augmentation, as well as, quite a bit of cosmetic work done to her face!

berkscountydoesn'tcare said...

The kids are not allowed to do anything! Kate will not allow it. They are not allowed to play sports, or join outside activities or summer fun, because they are "famous" and she has to "watch out for them".

Kate forgets that in berks county, people don't really give a sh*t about them. We'd gladly help them pack up and move south!

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

INF has darling, darling pix of smiling tups w/their dad. So happy to see!

2badsosad said...

NT said...
I can't believe there are 2 new hour long episodes of Kate plus 8 on tv on wednesday. 9pm and 10pm. I thought these were suppose to be specials once in awhile not every other week. Those kids are working hard for the money.

I dont EVER want to hear Kate say the words that SHE WORKS hard to provide for her children. The way I see it, the Gosselin 8 have been WORKING pretty damn hard the past few months carrying the burden of providing their mother a lifestyle that she could NOT acquire or otherwise maintain on her own merit and talent!!!

readerlady said...

Those are great pix on INF. The kids look relaxed, happy and blessedly unmatched. Isn't it interesting that Jon can manage the kids on his own but Khate can't do without at least a bodyguard, if not a couple of nannies, in her own yard? Wonder where Mady and Cara were. I hope they're being allowed to do some things on their own - perhaps visiting a classmate or even better, spending time with family. Maybe they went to Jon's Mom.

GTL Baby said...

Funniest post of the day is Laura over on Hollywood Life making the case for Kate to join the cast of the Jersey Shore.

GTL ...gym, tan and laundry. Kate is set to fit right in.

Hippie Chick said...

PA Mom Knows...I was saying that because she thinks she's a big star!! That's the only reason. I did not mean any disrespect to anyone living in PA at all! Sorry if it sounded like that. :)

Amy2 said...

Is the Kate Gosselin attention from media and others dying a natural death? IMO, yes. I see more pictures of Kate doing routine things (tanning, Target, nails, etc.) and not so much Hollywood type things. The paparazzi are called by TLC and Kate to get any pictures of her in the media. Her clothes are young-ish and she is continually working to make herself look younger (tanning, botox, hair extensions, etc.). She’s trying to bring media attention (any attention) to herself to stay in the news and relevant. But is it working? People are moving on to the next media darling. There are less posts on GWOP than in the past. The media coverage is not positive towards her as it was in the beginning. Other high-order multiple moms (Suleman, the mom on WETV) are trying the same well-paved Kate Gosselin road for freebees and money, and IMO are not succeeding. Main stream is now questioning Moms who take fertility drugs in order to have a ton of children in order to get the attention and money.

As we all know Kate loves (dare I say craves) the attention at any price. Could her efforts in the long run result in her being ridiculed for her efforts? Yes, I believe Kate will disappear but will always do something to stay in the limelight such as the Where are they now articles. She will become known as the mother who deliberately had high-order multiples in order to gain fame and fortune at any cost.

Long term IMO we’ll see laws enacted for children in reality shows and stricter regulations for fertility drugs. That will be the legacy of Kate Gosselin whether she wants it or not. She will become the poster Mom for how science can be used to create an ethical, moral, and financial problem for society as a whole.

anotherthing... said...

Amy2... Well said!!! I couldnt agree more.

I think people are 'over' her.

Theyve just heard enough. Done. Dont care. Shes revealed herself. And people dont like it. To put it mildly.

I was at my moms a few days ago and she ahd a People laying around from June... and there were the reader letters from when the Gosselins were on the cover.

They printed 2 letters, both were very negative toward Kate. Both saying she should send the cameras away and get her life together and make her kids her priority and stop running to the media about being hounded by the meida (Im paraphrasing, but the sentiment is the same).

I was surprised, since usually they print a letter from each view point. IF there are differing viewpoints. Which in this case, maybe at loooooong last there isnt..

luv my GSP said...

So sad...

http://www.infdaily.com/2010/08/exclusive-the-gosselin-kids-in-hysterics-over-leaving-dad-jon.html

Brummygirl said...

It will soon be "back to school time" and most children lament the passing of the summer break, when they could let loose, enjoy outdoor activities, play with friends without listening for the school bell.
When it is time to for them to once again pursue learning, they will probably share what they did in the summer with the teacher and classmates.
I can only imagine when it comes to the tups to share theirs.
"Well, we went to Alaska, we went to Florida, we went to the Statue of Liberty, we got chickens"....and their classmates will say, "we know, we heard all about it. Was it cool to have the camera crew with you?"
Maybe they will not tell that part, but share the time spent with their father when they did *ordinary* but happy things.

Brummygirl said...

luv my gsp said:
So sad...

http://www.infdaily.com/2010/08/exclusive-the-gosselin-kids-in-hysterics-over-leaving-dad-jon.htm
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I would cry too, if it meant spending time with the McWitch.
Call me sceptical, but I hope this was not staged. When people cry wolf so many times, it is difficult to separate the reality from the orchestrated.
The camera man said the kids were upset before we even saw or heard them.

Jon, get custody NOW said...

luv my GSP said...

thanks for the sad link-very telling, yes?

It is so sad to see the clip! I don't care if Jon called the pap or not..it just further proves who is the better parent, and who the kids love. You will NEVER see a clip like that with their mother.
I bet when the kids went it, she was dismissive (if she was even home).
Where is your christianity, Kate? You should have allowed Jon access to the gate (notice the changed keycode in the clip?) After all, he is the father of your kids!! And then, she sends the TWO nannies to retrieve them?
This woman makes Joan Crawford mother of the year, imo.

Anonymous said...

I am sitting here in utter disgust. What an incredibly sad video from INF. The tup's were in such anguish (not to mention the twins, who had to walk down from the house), and it all was allowed to be caught by the paps. It is so petty of Kate not to let Jon drive the van down the driveway to the house so that these moments (which I'm sure happen quite frequently) are not put on film. What a witch!!!

Sweetp said...

The video of Jon bringing the kids home is seriously sad. Jon may be a turd, but I do believe he loves those kids for who they are and not what they have brought him. They seem so relaxed and happy with him, but when they are with Kate they seem just the opposite. It is a sad situation.

Tom said...

Why did he YELL at them when they were so upset? He couldn't be bothered to comfort them? Nice.

BeDoneNow said...

Tom said...
Why did he YELL at them when they were so upset? He couldn't be bothered to comfort them? Nice.
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Perhaps you were not able to see the entire video. He DID comfort them and hug them and soothe them over and over and over. But one of the boys in the back was escalating and Jon tried another tact.

How long was he supposed to stand inside the van and hug, while the not-a-nanny was waiting in the drivers seat to go? The hugging and comforting and soothing didnt seem to be easing their terror.

Mary said...

My heart is breaking for those children and you can beat if she was home and saw all the sad faces there was hell to pay. Now if she sees this tape the kids will be punished further. I sure she go to court and blame Jon for upsetting the kids. Kate is not going to forget this and I fear the kids will pay dearly. Jon had no choice he tried to comfort them. He had to give them back to that horribble person. I bet there was no dinner for those kids that night. I am now blaming nannies, bodyguard (not Steve) for not reporing any abuse these kids are getting. Shame on them

Mary

HW said...

My mother handled my parents' divorce horribley but even she never denied my dad entry into our home.
That mansion is the children's home. How dare Kate not even let their father through the gate. The message she is sending her kids is so damaging. Whatever happened to Kate saying "it's the kids' house. They deserve it." If it's their house, let their father in when it is his time to visit.

This alone is despicable behavior but the fact that the kids are so unhappy to be returning home is so troubling. Why is nobody helping these children?

Kate is beyond hope as far as seeing the error of her ways but Jon needs to get a good attorney and start fresh with his fight for those kids. He needs to find a fathers' rights attorney and get the job done.

I keep saying this but Kate hates Jon more than she loves her children and she'd rather hang on to that hate than make her children happy.

One day, Kate is going to be a very lonely woman and she will have no idea why. She is that ignorant of her own behavior.

go away gosselins said...

So, taking bets...how long will it take before the Neild divorce is announced? How long until they admit that Kate and Steve "just naturally" fell in 'love'?

Jane in California said...

The video is heartbreaking. At age 6, most children would not cry so intensely even at saying goodbye to a loved parent during a custody exchange. To me, it's clear they are returning to a place they don't wish to be, without their dad to act as buffer and protector anymore. Besides, he's the only one who probably gives them any affection, real affection. Did you see the pictures of the big bodyguard that went with them to Alaska, in the airport. He was holding first one, then two of the boys, by their wrists, and he looked pretty mean.

I bet the only place they feel semi-safe and secure these days is with their dad. How long do they have to endure living in the orphanage under the thumb of Cruella McKreider?

jibberjabbers said...

Tom said...

Why did he YELL at them when they were so upset? He couldn't be bothered to comfort them? Nice.

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All he said was, "ENOUGH!" after hugging EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE KIDS. Not just a quick tap, but a long comforting hug.

Now, imagine if the situation was flipped. And it was Kate handing the kids over to Jon.

Kate would have smacked every single kid...

tigerfan said...

It's been over a year since the J & K divorce. If the Gosselin children are that emotionally unstable and have such separation anxiety about leaving their father, then perhaps it's time for J & K to SHUT OFF the cameras and stop utilizing their children to fuel their own agendas and TLC's bank account and put ALL their parental concentration and priorities in to helping their children come to terms with the divorce!

Aunt Chris said...

http://www.infdaily.com/2010/08/exclusive-the-gosselin-kids-in-hysterics-over-leaving-dad-jon.html


Very, very sad. I'm sure lots of kids of divorce go through times like this, but multiply it by 8. I'm sure she was anything but compassionate to them when they got up to the house. When has she EVER been compassionate to them?!

Canadian Mom said...

http://www.infdaily.com/2010/08/exclusive-the-gosselin-kids-in-hysterics-over-leaving-dad-jon.html

I usually feel nauseous due to my illness...

My illness has nothing to do with my nauseousness after seeing that...excuse me, I need to blow my nose, vomit, sob and repeat...

bbeau said...

Re : video of Jon dropping off the kids.

What I find more telling is the not-a-nanny total lack of involvement. She didn't try to comfort those kids one bit. My daughter's friend is an au pair. After seeing the video, she can't believe the nanny just stood there. She didn't even try to comfort them. She said she's always had a special bond with her little ones. She sees no warm bond between the nanny and kids. She said they may as well had the gardner pick them up. She is leaving next week for Washington to be an au pair to a 4 mth. old. That family will be blessed to have her.

Maggie said...

The video is very disturbing, it must have upset Jon to have to leave the children that way.

Kate is cutting off her own nose by not allowing their dad to drive them up to the house, coming out and welcoming them, and letting the kids show their dad their latest project, or new dress, etc.

The transition would be much easier as the children got into their own world, and Jon could quietly kiss them goodbye and leave.

It isn't doing the children any favors having such a cold handover arrangement, it is obviously traumatic for them, and even at their young ages, they realize that it is wrong that their dad is treated with such contempt by their own mother.

For the sake of the children Jon and Kate could be cordial to each other for three minutes and make this transition easier on the little ones.

Jane in California said...

HW said:

One day, Kate is going to be a very lonely woman and she will have no idea why. She is that ignorant of her own behavior.
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Kate's already a lonely person, and I have a feeling she's always been so. I think she doesn't even know she's lonely - she just thinks everyone else is stupid, worthless, doesn't know "how to help her", etc. Only Kate is right, only Kate knows what is best. Everyone else is just so much background noise to Kate.

She doesn't have normal human feelings like maternal love and concern, loneliness, embarrassment over poor behavior, guilt, empathy, etc. She's not normal. She will never feel sorry for the choices she's made, because in her mind, she is never wrong.

Brummygirl said...

Just watch Kate's P.R. team go to work regarding this video of the upset children.
Who set the rule that Jon was not allowed on the property? Was there a restraining order, or did I miss something?
"Mine all Mine" certainly played out that way!!

1momski said...

http://www.infdaily.com/2010/08/exclusive-the-gosselin-kids-in-hysterics-over-leaving-dad-jon.html

Such cruelty! The anguish these children are experiencing when their Dad is bringing them back to the orphanage is incredible! How can Kate sleep at night, she is responsible for this. What a hateful woman. This video should be posted in as many places as possible, it is indisputable proof of what these kids are living with. And did you hear Jon say that "probably a Nanny" would be coming down to the fence? He knows Kate couldn't be bothered to retrieve her own children. I never thought I would be glad that the Paps were following these kids until now. This has got to stop.

Cry Me a River said...

OMG, that makes me wanna cry. What is that wench doing to those childen??? That was the saddest thing. I am shook up - words defy me. At least the pap backed off so the kids couldn't see him. But I am glad for once that he got that shot. Something is not right in Khateland.

Cry Me a River said...

He didn't yell at them! He comforted each one individually. I am sure he did not want to go in the house like that - they would be punished. And she has a nanny there for evey Mady and Cara. I am so upset. I am shaking. What a bitch!

Cry Me a River said...

That was not a daddy don't go cry, that was a daddy help me, I am terrified cry. Please dear God, look over those sad, helpless, precious little children.

grannyoftwo said...

that has got to be the saddest video i have seen in a long time. I have NEVER seen these children sad to leave their mother like that. It is true what they say about animals and small children, they can always sense a decent person from someone who is not. These childen are being tortured having to live day in day out with that monster of a mother they have. Bless their little hearts. And she didn't even have the mother's instinct to know her children needed her to come and get them from their Dad, not a nanny. They needed the comfort of their Mom right then. How traumatizing can she be? She is a witch to the nth degree. Sorry all you witches out there for the slander. And nobody cares enough to help these little souls. Someone is going to pay dearly in the after life for this.....we mothers are all in shock at how someone could be so cruel to their own flesh and blood...I just do not understand.

Amy2 said...

Tomorrow we'll see pics of Kate playing with the children on the front lawn just to show how "happy" they are with their Mommy.

SomewhereinOH said...

bbeau said...
Re : video of Jon dropping off the kids.

What I find more telling is the not-a-nanny total lack of involvement. She didn't try to comfort those kids one bit.

I abosultely agree! IMO, there was only so much that Jon could do to manage the situation as he was adhering to his responsibility per the court order by literally 'dropping' the children off at the gate. My guess is, this wasn't the first time the children reacted this way. Kate was either not at home, or couldn't be bothered to take the time to ASSIST Jon in comforting THEIR children and making them feel secure during the 'drop off' process. As for the nanny, clearly her priorty was to get in the van and clear of the 'paps' ASAP. Im not sure whose bright idea it was for the visitation exchange to take place outside of the security gate in a prime location where the 'paps' OBVIOUSLY have full advantage? I find the video disturbing on so many levels and feel extremely sad for the innocent Gosselin children.

Lorrie said...

I don't know this for a fact, but I don't believe a restraining order was filed to keep Jon off the property. Kate got the house in the divorce, and she likely threatened him with a restraing order if he so much as set foot past the driveway. Rumor has it she did this after she disapproved of Jon introducing the kids to Ellen.

Restraining order or not, it is EXTREMELY confusing and upsetting for children to see that their beloved daddy is not given enough respect to be welcomed on their property. What kind of overt and covert message does this send the kids?

Lorrie said...

Tom said...

Why did he YELL at them when they were so upset? He couldn't be bothered to comfort them? Nice.

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The kids were approaching hysterics. A firm "ENOUGH" is hardly yelling.

A good example of yelling might be Kate screaming in Mady's face "WE DON'T CHEW GUM WHEN WE'RE THREE!" in the gumgate episode.

Anne said...

bbeau said...
What I find more telling is the not-a-nanny total lack of involvement. She didn't try to comfort those kids one bit. My daughter's friend is an au pair. After seeing the video, she can't believe the nanny just stood there. She didn't even try to comfort them.
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I believe this is the same nanny they've had for over a year. That tells us a lot IMO. It takes a "special" person to be allowed in Kate's universe for that length of time. (And I don't mean "special" in a good way.)

I agree with the comment that a photo op of Kate smiling and having fun with the kids is being set up as we speak.

PA Mom Knows said...

"PA Mom Knows...I was saying that because she thinks she's a big star!! That's the only reason. I did not mean any disrespect to anyone living in PA at all! Sorry if it sounded like that. :)"

I know you didn't. I was just pulling your leg. I thought it was kind of funny, actually!

Regarding the video...guess those parenting classes the couple was required to take didn't mean much, did they? Isn't it interesting that the kids would rather be with their father, sleeping on the floor of a one-bedroom apartment where they are clearly loved, than running around on a huge property where they have a pool, expensive toys, etc. etc. No question that the love of a father far outweighs the materialism of expensive "things."

Payson48 said...

Maybe someone could send the video to The View and get their reaction.These kids are going through hell at that orphanage. Yup,that's where kate is.

Stop the Insanity! said...

I want to know how the "not-a- nannies", booby-guards, and cast and crew sleep at night. I hope you keep hearing that screaming, wailing, pleas for help, in your nightmares, every night, haunting you, until one of you does the moral and decent thing. Protect those kids!! Throw that evil woman under the bus! We will pay your legal fees for not being a 'contract-honorer.' For God's sake, is anyone listening?? I can't get that sound out of my head! Where are the Kreiders? My God, someone help those kids!!

Dannie Darko said...

Yeah, I'd be bawling like the sextuplets too if I was being sent to stay with Krazy Katie Krieder (or is it Kreider?). Run, babies, run. Poor Jon being made to drop those kiddies off at the end of the drive. How the hell does Katie the Kretin get ownership of the orphanage and allowed to keep the children's father away? Not kosher in my world of fairness in divorce settlements. So much for that mansion being the children and the parents "share". Lies, lies and more greedy Krazy Katie lies.

Aunt Chris said...

In addition to pics of Kate "playing" with the kids soon, there will be somewhere for her to talk about how the kids cry when she leaves them, accompanied by her wiping away fake tears.

Ohio Buckeye said...

WTH happened to "we will always pull together and do what's best for our kids"?????

Gosselin is just another synonym for B.S. Lie after lie after lie. Whatever sells at the moment.

It is ludicrous that TLC continues to attempt spin on what is now and has always been total dysfunction.

What could possibly be more despicable than two parents who choose to continue displaying their dirty laundry and dysfunction just to avoid having to get real jobs in the real world?

Cry Me a River said...

This is one time I hope the pap managed to get a pic of what happened when they were let out of the van. I am still shook up about that.

Cry Me a River said...

I don't think that is the nice young, attractive Asian nanny they had for a while that was very loving toward them. This looks like an older Asian lady, the same one we saw at the airport, who obviously has no heart.

Midnight Serenade said...

"And she has a nanny there for evey Mady and Cara. I am so upset. I am shaking. What a bitch!"

Of course she does! She's never home. Nine-year-olds aren't left alone at home...at least not those kids, not with security concerns. The nanny would have known that the kids were being dropped off. Therefore, she was there to meet them.

Charles said...

tigerfan said...
It's been over a year since the J & K divorce. If the Gosselin children are that emotionally unstable and have such separation anxiety about leaving their father, then perhaps it's time for J & K to SHUT OFF the cameras and stop utilizing their children to fuel their own agendas and TLC's bank account and put ALL their parental concentration and priorities in to helping their children come to terms with the divorce!

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Sidney said...

Was it a set-up that the kids were supposed to cry and sob when Jon drove up to the gate to return the kids?

Amazing, Her Higness best-ever BFF calls it all staged.

Sure. Right.

Sport said...

Wow - that video was painful to watch.

Why dont these two parents get their heads together for the sake of the kids and come up with some creative solutions? With that many kids, maybe each parent take HALF the kids for a couple days - then switch groups? It would be a more manageable number, it would also allow more personal interaction with their children? I am just talking about an occasional thing, not separating them regularly because I dont think that would be good. But at the same time I am *sure* some of them would love to 'escape' from the pack once in awhile and have some me-time with their dad/mom.

The lack of leadership and direction and parenting disturbs me.

kate can't do sh** said...

Im too, watched the video and it made me cry. I couldn't stand the sound of the kids crying for their dad and not wanting to leave him. Granted, he is the weekend dad, the fun dad but still..... That kind of pleading by the kids makes one wonder truly what is going on in that mine all mine orphanage. Yes, he is the better parent and I still have a problem with the hush money he is so happy to collect. How pathetic that Kate sends down the nannies to get the kids. She is playing the part of a rich bitch who has her hired help do the mundane stuff. Must have been doing a work out at the time or prepping a salad to keep her weight stable for all those future TV engagements. I wonder if Bill Geddes is still trying to pull strings for her so that she can host a show? Afterall, she did tell him on camera that she really wants that for a career.....Kate you said 90% of your audience disliked you when you were on DWTS. It has to be up to at least 97% now. We GWOPers and everyone else who sit back and watch you sell your kids to the highest bidder will continue to ensure your empire crumbles. Well, actually, you are doing a great job of that all on your own.

Tami said...

Well, would YOU want to go back to Khate? You know what is waiting for them: Days worth of chicken poop that has not been touched, that she has saved for them. She probably threw the contents of their rooms down the stairs, too. I don't blame them for wailing. You can't tell me Jon didn't call for someone to come film it though. But I do wonder if he is wanting everyone to see it in order to realize what a bad parent Khate is..since he has a gag order and all and can't come out and say anything. If her kids grow up and believe she did the right thing by them, I will be shocked.

Tami said...

Why can't the lazy nanny just come to a neutral location and get the kids and the van? Instead of Jon getting picked up at the gate, SHE can get dropped off by some stupid TLC hired help to get the kids where they are. This would avoid the awkward scene they showed. I'm sure Hate was wasting even more of her pitiful little life frying in a tanning booth while her kids were being hurt yet again.

Bad omen said...

That was not a daddy don't go cry, that was a daddy help me, I am terrified cry. Please dear God, look over those sad, helpless, precious little children.
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I saw a show on tv (20/20 or something) about a little boy killed by a parent. He would do the same thing--cry and plead to not have to go back to the parent after visitation. Actually I have heard of it happening more than once, a child being tortured by a parent and trying let others know by causing a scene when they have to be returned. I can't look at that and believe nothing bad is happening to them at their house.

Upset in CA said...

Wow, the video of Jon leaving his hysterically crying children in the van was disturbing on so many levels.
I feel so bad for those children. It is so frustrating not to be able to help them.

Couldn't Kate just disappear with the bodyguard? Let those kids live with Jon....maybe it isn't too late for them to have some happy childhood memories.

I hate Kate for hurting those kids....
so very sad!

So Sad for the Kids said...

I see the live chat crew that got booted off ROL has set up residence over at INF.

Exhausted said...

Darn it. I have been so careful to not go to any news with Kate in it, but after seeing the discussion here about it, I had to watch the drop-off video. As a parent, this made me feel sick to my stomach. Those poor, poor kids have to endure this misery for years to come.

The last thing any parent worth his/her spit wants is to see their children hurt or sad. And what it comes down to is, I think this is why we want laws for reality TV children and we want Kate to not be celebrated or endorsed...what we really are saying over and over is that we want Kate to love these kids and to be forced to be a good parent.

And no law or lack of air time is going to make that happen. Those kids have to put up with a childish, controlling, irrational, unloving bully for a mother who, sadly, is holding all the cards and will never avoid resorting to the lowest tactics (eg trashing their dad, making up lies) to get her way. We can't even rest easy knowing that, well, at least there's a grandmother who gives them love and puts Kate in her place. There is no gatekeeper. And again, Kate is holding all the cards.

I hope this changes for them, but I have a pit in my stomach that they have a long, hard road ahead of them, and no child should endure that. And Jon? You are not a bad guy, but wake up and realize that you can't keep sending these children into this hell. You're not entitled to down time or "me" time. You agreed to have eight kids, and they NEED you to fight for them.

So, so sad. What they have to go home to is unthinkable...and once Kate loses the love of her TLC, it will only get worse.

readerlady said...

I haven't stopped shaking since I watched that video. How the sheeple of the world could see and hear that and still think Khate is mother of the year and that it's Jon's fault the kids don't want to be with her is more than I will ever understand. I'm so glad that a pap was there to film it for all the world to see. I don't care if someone (Jon?) did call him/her/it/them. For once, a little bit of the truth is out there. Now if someone in authority will just take action. That wailing is going to haunt me for days. I hope it does the same for every adult who is in a position to act for the kids and is too afraid/greedy/stupid/blind whatever to do anything. Jon - if you read this PLEASE for the love of God, rescue your children while there's still time.

HW said...

I am especially concerned about what happened to those children when they entered their home after this scene. Once Kate saw this video (and we know she has seen it) I'm certain she laid into those kids for making her look bad. She cannot look past her own comfort and image and see their breaking hearts. All she has seen is that she now looks bad and she has work to do to spin her image again.

Not only were those kids scared to return to their "normal" life, they probably got a double dose of hell for crying for Daddy - and in front of a camera.

Kate is not the type of woman who tolerates disloyal behavior even from her children.

My only hope now is that any of the kids will tell a teacher or counselor at school IF any kind of abuse is going on and that somebody will listen and take action. These kids have to be saved and God help all of us if our society witnesses the destruction of 8 children and the proper authorities never step in.

Tizzie said...

readerlady said...

I haven't stopped shaking since I watched that video. How the sheeple of the world could see and hear that and still think Khate is mother of the year and that it's Jon's fault the kids don't want to be with her is more than I will ever understand.

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Did you see BabyMama's version on her site? She and her Kate-obsessed fans are full of it.

konspiracytheory said...

Jon: The time to be a man is NOW. Right now. Your babies are terrified of going home, and you know why. Do something, before it is too late.

Denny's Mom said...

"Instead of Jon getting picked up at the gate, SHE can get dropped off by some stupid TLC hired help to get the kids where they are. This would avoid the awkward scene they showed."

How? The kids are still going to wail and cry because they know they are going home. Just because the nanny would be dropped off at a neutral site doesn't mean that there wouldn't be a scene. Do you think they are going to miss him less and not have a fear of going home because the nanny met Jon in a Target parking lot? THEY DON'T WANT TO GO HOME! Period!

Dana said...

That video was extremely disturbing. I agree with other posts. I can understand maybe a little crying because they will miss their Dad but this was way beyond that. It wasn't even just one child. The way they were crying and screaming for their Dad and not wanting him to leave them worries me. You wonder what in the world is going on in that house that they don't want to go in there.

Yes, we will see PR at its finest in the next few days with Kate playing her loving Mom role to keep the money coming in.

Will someone please step in and help these kids ???

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

Did I read it here? Khate spends $200k/yr on house and staff?
Why should she pay any more for common sense?
Or love?

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

OK, Jon doesn't HAVE to know the "code" at the gate. Just let him in, dammit. And make the transfer in private. (stupid biatch)
This isn't rocket science.
Khate doesn't even have to be in the scenario.

hayden said...

Heartwrenching, bordering on sickening video. Those poor babies. Jon, for the love of God- step up and insist those kids get some counseling so they may better express what exactly is going on there. The only thing worse than watching that video is imagining what Khate's reaction was when she found out about it.

Brummygirl said...

Tizzie said:
Did you see BabyMama's version on her site? She and her Kate obsessed fans are full of it.
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I just went over and read what she said. B.M. seems to think it is normal for the kids to cry like that. She has a dozen excuses why Kate is not to blame for any of this, including saying that the photographer was Jon's friend. The same photographer has also been on a Kate shoot. Whether the photographer was set up to be there, I do not know, but that was real hysteria from the kids.
I feel that both parents are to blame for putting their children through this roller coaster emotional ride.
Kate must have known when the children were coming home, she should have been there to meet them and perhaps this could have been avoided.
Shame on them both and shame on B.M. for being such a dumb bunny in supporting Kate Gosselin in her attainment of being the worst mother of the century.
I usually post here with some sort of humour, but I feel no humour in this situation, I only feel sadness that these children are still being used as pawns in a game of control.

Midnight Serenade said...

Look at it this way. Maybe some good can come out of this. If Kate allowed Jon to drop the kids off at the front door, nobody would have heard them sobbing. Her little "no trespassing" policy kind of backfired, didn't it? There is now video evidence he may need to support the fact that these kids do not want to go home. We're not just talking about them sobbing because they will miss their daddy. This is fear of going into that house, for whatever reason.

scary times said...

Oh my. Jon isn`t even allowed on the property to drop the kids off.

Acres of land and the kids are switched at the side of the road.

Is this court ordered through Kate or did some therapist say it would be easier on the kids if Jon never set foot in the mansion.

Golden platters, 8 diamond ring, but cant even let the kids dad into the yard for 5 minutes.

Its scary to think what really goes on behind closed doors.

kathryn23 said...

6 wailing kids will become 6 angry teenagers. Stay tuned, this is not going to turn out pretty.

Pat said...

I wonder how many paid TLC operatives are online blogging about how Kate is a great mother and everything is Jon's fault.

Kids, dogs AND chickens don't lie.

Donna said...

All I can think about are Kate comments on how the kids reacted to the news of the divorce. Those kids really do have issues and never seem to get what they need most, a normal childhood and counseling. Those poor kids, they finally get that they are the family paycheck.

Can't See Sheep said...

@1momski, I agree, this video should be plastered everywhere. It would be nice if the adults who allow all this to happen couldn't sleep because they couldn't get the sounds of the children's wailing out of their heads. Why has nothing been leaked?! For the adults to stand & watch & hear this time & again. There's no way I'm believing that this is the only time it's happened. I don't know how any amount of money could be enough for them to just stand there & do nothing to stop any of this or get these kids the help they obviously need. I bet these people would all just claim they were doing their job, sorry, that isn't good enough & I'd bet good money these kids are badly traumatized.

@Jane in California, love it! Cruella McKreider! Far better than Clean slate kate & it would probably be easier for the PR team to spin too.


Has anyone sent the link of this video off to Rep. Murt or Paul Peterson, before it mysteriously disappears from the internet?

I'm glad Frankenkreider made up her dumb rule of Jon not being allowed on the property because now this video is out there. I'm sad the kids are put through this, but glad her pettiness has in part backfired on her. Trust in katie to find ways of undoing herself. She's the one complaining about the paparazzi at the gate taking pictures, why on earth would you claim that & then banish Jon to dropping the kids off at the gate. I mean if they had been real paparazzi then it wouldn't have been very long before we'd seen & heard things like this video. The shrew really can't keep it straight.

KatesDirtyFlintstoneToes said...

Video of kids wailing in the van: PRICELESS
The Bitch is going DOWN!

Aunt Chris said...

Those cries DO NOT sound like the cries of kids who have spent the summer on "fun" trips to NYC and Alaska and gotten some fun pets like chickens, but the cries of kids who finally got to relax and be kids without cameras shoved in their faces. No, they're not working at all. That's their "normal". Unfortunately, that is the only thing Kate is correct about, and their "normal" sucks.

Cry Me a RIver said...

That photographer was Chris the one that Khate is on a first-name basis with and that she gets all decked out in for so he can shoot her trotting down the road and back without breaking a sweat or disturbing her spayed on abs.

fidosmommy said...

Amazon has Kate's book - new - for
$11.49. That's half price. They must be trying to clear the shelves of all copies ASAP.

path said...

I am guessing that the Alaska & NYC trips were such bombs that they had to recycle these old episodes into something. I agree that they will be reworked to eliminate all the "Kate" meltdowns. What do you all think?

IDModo said...

Scary times- Kate admitted that the kids have not seen a therapist, more than a year after the divorce.

If they had, this video would not have happened. A good therapist would have got to the bottom of what is happening with these children and we would be seeing a whole different scenario, Or better still, we wouldn't be seeing it at all.

Kate will never allow those children to see a therapist, for fear of what they might disclose.

Having trouble with blogger, using Name/URL today.

BeDoneNow said...

I agree with some of the other posters: this is not about whatever section of concrete the 'exchange' occured. This is about 6 little children who are terrified and miserable in their own home. Whether it is their mother or one of the hired hands - they do not want their own home and they were begging their father to save them.

Something is terribly wrong, folks.

Also, I did read some of the sheeple comments. Some come very close to actually blaming the children for the current soil on Kate's reputation. Very ill.

2badsosad said...

IMO, the most disturbing aspect of the Jon dropping off the kids scenerio is that the children are being 'released' OUTSIDE of the home security gate, a location that the paparrazi are known to stake out. Kate had recently upgraded her landscape to include a row of trees as a privacy measure to block the paparrazi. If Kate is fully aware that the paparrazi are hanging out on the OTHER side of her tree line and near the road side and security gate, where was her thought process with respect to PROTECTING/SECURING her CHILDREN'S privacy when she delegated the security gate as the custody 'drop off' point? Is it REALLY that difficult for Kate to allow Jon and the children a location of 10minutes of 'paparrazi free' privacy on the other side of the security gate?

Amy2 said...

I checked other sites (ROL, TMZ) and not a word about the Jon and the kids. Why?

MayDay said...

Trying to get the attention of someone on The View I posted something about thee video. My posts got deleted twice. Is Kate tight with Bill Getty or what???

Captain of the Titanic said...

Not that it means anything one way or the other, but I just wanted to bring to your attention that the videographer was not the only one there capturing the scene of the kids screaming. When you watch that video you can clearly hear the clicking of a still camera going off. So there are at least two people/paparazzi there and maybe more.

Protect8 said...

Readerlady said:

"Those are great pix on INF. The kids look relaxed, happy and blessedly unmatched."

Yes! Seeing the children as individuals, wearing different clothing and smiling says a lot. Kate dresses the children alike because it makes them look like toddlers and draws attention from the paparrazi. Keeping them young is her goal. Little sextuplets are her key to fame.

Oh - Angela Jolie was wandering around with her two older daughters in a nearby small neighborhood this past weekend, interacting with locals, checking out things in a second hand children's clothing store, being affectionate toward her children. I guess she isn't as big of a celebrity as Kate Gosselin.

Once In A Blue Moon said...

"I just went over and read what she said. B.M. seems to think it is normal for the kids to cry like that. She has a dozen excuses why Kate is not to blame for any of this, including saying that the photographer was Jon's friend..."

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I've don't go to her site, but I can imagine her saying that because the pap was a friend of Jon's, he probably set the whole thing up so he could get great video. Has she gone so far as to say it's all the photographer's fault?

It's NORMAL for kids to cry like that? Certainly they are going to cry when their daddy leaves. They are going to miss him. It is NOT NORMAL for kids to shriek and wail in fear of going home. Maybe BM's kids screamed in fear like that when they were left with her, so she just might think it's normal!! LOL!

I wish Jon would drink lite beer... said...

when i get back tonight, i am going to call TMZ tipline and tell them about the video of the kids.
and ask them to say why would a mother allow this exchange to happen and why are they so terrified to go to their mother?
i haven't seen it yet, because the website won't let me.
my stomach has a knot in it just thinking about it.

lukebandit

she is evil said...

I wonder if the kids were so panicked to see Jon leave because they never know when he will be allowed to see them again. If they knew he'd be back in a few days, maybe they wouldn't be so upset. That's why a regular schedule is so important. The kids should be allowed regular access to the dad they so obviously love; not only when Kate feels like it. Also, this is why the lopsided divorce settlement us detrimental to the kids. Their dad needs a home large enough to allow him to keep them 50% of the time. It's crazy that they have a million dollar house for mom and a small apt for dad. How about two $300-500,000 homes, roughly equal, one for each parent? That makes much more sense. Kate's greed has hurt everyone in that family but her.

Hambone said...

Amy2 said...
I checked other sites (ROL, TMZ) and not a word about the Jon and the kids. Why?

8/04/2010 8:04 AM


Because it shows Jon in a favorable light ( the compassionate, affectionate, preferred parent ). ROL and TMZ hate Jon. They will not give him any favorable attention.

And the rumor is ROL has their hands in TLC pockets to make Kate look good. This video makes Kate look insensitive, vindictive and horrible...a true monster mom that the kids are terrified of.

Mary said...

Hi

I am sure the tubs are watching what the twins are doing and are not corparing with the TLC camera's I am sure Adien is hiding his face. I bet Alaska the kids were tired due to change of time and a lot of punishment was handed out because he TLC crew could not get good film. The kids are the ones that may bring down Kate plus eiight.

Please do not memtion the mansion as a home it have not been a home since they moved there. Its just a loveless house

Mary

Proud Grandma. said...

This was a horrible video. Those kids were very distressed. For what reason, we can only speculate.
I have read several questions from posters, one was about why did John go round and open the door. Not sure, but it looks to me like he has put on a little weight and maybe climbing over the front seats was not an option. Remember when K8 did it there was a camera on her so she could be shown as a caring, slim, agile Mom. (miaow). Poor John would probably get stuck in that small space. Also, with our van, if you want to get into the back seat area, you pretty well have to have the side door open as there is no space to squeeze through. A pain in the neck when travelling.
Secondly, The kids crying. Believe me, that did not sound like 2 year olds, I remember my youngest at seven "going off" on me because he didn't want to go to summer camp and kicked up a huge sobfest. I cried my eyes out. He sounded just like that. I guess the video brought back memories. Oh, for the record, I had promised myself that if he was still inconsolable that evening, I would go back and pick him up. When he did get there he saw all of his friends from last year and without even a "bye Mum" he was off and had a ball.
I have mentioned this before that the voice of the "throng of paparazzi" who "surround" the family is the same ever time, is only one guy. The same one guy. And usually he follows Kate, so this begs the question, did KATE call him and tell him it might be worth his while to be at the gate of the McMansion when Jon returned the kids as she was about to put him in his place by not allowing him access to the Kids home. And didn't that backfire against her.
Somehow I like to give Jon a bit of credit, not much, but a little. I think he is devious, sorry, make that clueless, but I just do not think he would rile the kids up to a screaming frenzy for the press. He is not that clueless.

Hambone Again said...

Oh you know Monster Mom will come out and say the kids had low blood sugar and/or they reacted this way because he allows them to eat crap and they were sick.

She will most definitely spin it to where the kids cried because of something Jon had done wrong.

I smell a new topic at her faux blog that will address this meltdown as a low blood sugar episode because they were starving or coming off a sugar high after spending time with "their dad", and she had to remedy the situation with a good old home cooked organic meal and more face painting and chicken cuddling.

She will not let this incident that made her look horrible go by, without twisting it all up to somehow make Jon look bad.

eve said...

"It's crazy that they have a million dollar house for mom and a small apt for dad. How about two $300-500,000 homes, roughly equal, one for each parent? That makes much more sense. Kate's greed has hurt everyone in that family but her. "

Excellent point and suggestion !
Since both Jon and Kate are paid by TLC, that neither of them are actully working ...I think the judge should of made sure that Jon had as much space for the kids too.
I have a feeling though its just a matter of time before the final blow up occurs. Goodbye Kate for good.

Proud Grandma said...

Ok so this is my second post today. I have some time on my hands, but honestly, that video really got my blood boiling and it has bothered me a lot.
I wonder how long it will be before K8's ten minutes of fame will be over and TLC will dump her like a sack of manure.
I just bet that as soon as her "statute of limitations" with TLC is over, she will engage someone to write her book in her made up Katisms, and tell us all that TLC held her at Ransom, they made her behave irrationally, she and the kids were prisoners and pawns of TLC and that has she tried to get out of the mess in order to save her beloved kids, they would have sued the pants off her. It will be "Poor me, poor poor me" "I did it for my kids" yadda yadda yadda.

If she doesn't do that, then I hpe Jon does a book or the kids. I have expended too much energy on this family, (morbid curiosity I guess) to be cheated of a tell all book. but if K8 does it I won't be buying. I would rather spend the money on a contribution to a trust fund for the kids.

Michelle said...

If Kate truly believes her kids "deserve life on a golden platter" she needs to do the #1 thing to make sure those kids have a good life. Love your children MORE than you hate their father. The fact that Jon can't drive up to the front door is proof that Kate can't manage that. If Jon is such a danger to have on the property, no way should she be letting the kids spend time alone with him. Clearly the not being allowed on the property is her punishment to him for something. And as we saw yesterday, the kids pay the price.

It's over a year post-separation/divorce. If she still has this much anger towards Jon that she can't allow a simple front door drop off, she really needs to get some counseling ASAP.

Do the Kate "fans" ever see fault or flaws with her? They see plenty with Jon, but seem blind to Kate's issues. Even those of us who have supported Jon haven't done so blindly. I can't imagine anyone thinks he's perfect as the Kate fans seem to think she is.

They appear to need counseling right along with Kate.

Denny's Mom said...

"She will not let this incident that made her look horrible go by, without twisting it all up to somehow make Jon look bad."

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If she's smart (yeah, right!), she's not going to say a word. When she spins things to go her way, she's only going to dig herself in deeper, and come up with more answers, and more lies. It's never worked for her in the past, and it's not going to work for her this time. She's so transparent that anything she says is going to be refuted...then she's going to have to come back and refute the counter-arguments.
Best for her to just let it die down. However, for those who have seen it, it's not going to go away. We've become witnesses to this, and hopefully, some have sent this to authorities and those in key places. Jon needs a new attorney and should get this video to him, and then right into custody court.

Children First said...

"If we accept that he is not allowed on the property, why did he open the van door? To comfort the kids? Nonsense."

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To say goodbye to them, and to hug them? Why wouldn't he? Isn't that what any father would do? So he should have closed his car door and just walked away with the camera rolling and the kids screaming for him? Geez...

"Kate was able to access the back while the car was moving, so there was no need for him to open the door, other than so the paps could record him being a "great dad"."

Huh? I have no idea what you are trying to say here. He should have said goodbye to them while the car was moving? He should have climbed over the seat to give them hugs? The twins wanted to get into the car for a ride back to the house. Should they have climbed in through the window?

"Also, the screaming from inside the van sounded more like 2 year olds than 6 year olds. My six year old on her worst day doesn't whine like that."

Has your six-year-old been ripped from their father and dragged all over the country...to Florida, to New York, to Alaska, to California? Has your six-year-old experienced the trauma that these kids have in their young lives...the emotional issues, the filming, the nannies, the alienation of family, the media, etc. etc.? I've been a case worker for child-related issues, and believe me, these are the cries of kids who are in distress. I've heard the cries of 10-year-olds that sound like babies who need to be comforted.

There was nothing tacky about this. These kids were not prompted. They are not actors. This most definitely was not "for show." I hope he keeps a video of this as future evidence. He may need it.

Kitty The Dog's Blog said...

Ive mentioned to you all before that I am a court appointed child advocate. If this happened in one of my cases I would ask for Monitored Exchange for multiple reasons. Yes, there would still be a scene, but professionals would be on hand to help with the situation and report to the court that the kids need more time with dad, a regular visitation schedule and that they are in need of counseling. They would also document that the kids are sad to leave dad, are fearful of mom, that Khate does not pick up her own children, that Jon is hands on and affectionate, that the kids are clean and fed when they are dropped off by dad, and that they are hungry, etc. when dropped off by Khate.

Here in San Antonio there is such a place, called Kids Exchange, where supervised visits and monitored exchanges take place. It also prevents the parents from getting in arguments in front of the kids. And with these kids, it would eliminate the pap situation as these places are guarded and have great security.

I also think that these kids are just so exhausted. They have been dragged all over the continent and were happy to be home and see their dad. Who knows what Khate tells them and threatens them with. They never know if they are going to see their dad again. To my knowledge they do not have a set, reliable, stable visitation schedule in place and if they did, they may not be so hysterical.

As an aside, when i went through a separation with my daughter's father, I had the nanny handle exchanges. I was very young and could not handle seeing him without getting into a fight and I admit that that was wrong of me. But, I also did things like, give my baby her own calendar and circle the visitation days so that she could see in a way she could understand (and she was 3, so I think the tups would understand) that there were 3 days, then 2 days, then (yay!) one day until daddy comes to see you. I lived with my parents and he had a key to the house in case of emergency and he even came over to feed the cat when we went on vacation and when I got married and went on my honeymooon! I gave him children's museum passes and Astros tickets so that my daughter would have something enjoyable to look forward to during the visits. Im not saying Im a better mom, I hated him, but as time went on I was able to put that aside and do what was best for my daughter. He got married and now has nothing to do with her and hasnt seen her in 5 years, but i know I did nothing to cause that and I tried to build a relationship betweent them. Khate has many resources and I wish she would use them FOR the kids and to better their life and let Jon be a bigger part of that.

Payson48 said...

Video is up at Dr. Lillian Glass site!!!!!!!! 3rd reply under Al Gore thread. How about Readingeagle.com newspaper? The tv station is MyFoxPhilly.com. Wonder if they would post it?

jibberjabbers said...

Type (little) a said...

So, yes, I have no doubt the kids prefer Jon. Why wouldn't they? But the whole spectacle he put on? Tacky. And emotionally manipulative to those poor kids.

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Sorry, but Jon isn't "smart" enough to do all those thing you "claim".

He was just being a father to those kids. He is parent that is affectionate. This was not an 'act'...

The firm, "enough!" at the end proves that it was not an act. But the kids begging Jon not to leave...

Jon was obliviously a bit annoyed by all the screaming and yelling.

Donna said...

Don't like either of Jon or Kate but I think this was just about the kids missing their dad. When my granddaughter who is now 13 was that age she loved spending weekends with me. We did the usual gramma/grandkid stuff plus went to church most Sunday mornings. When her parents came to pick her up Sunday evening she would wrap herself around me, cling to me and cry hysterically. My daughter would literally have to pry her off me. Most time she would be fine before they hit the first traffic light and always by the time they got home (15 mins. or so). Her little sister never reacted this way and in fact would roll her eyes at the display. They have a nice home and loving, hands on, involved parents. It was all about missing me rather than going back to a "nasty" home situation. I tried to explain that I would see her next weekend, but at that age a week seems like a year. She stills visits me on weekends and a lot during the summer (expecting this to change as she gets older and social times take over more)and she still gets upset when its time to go home, only to a lesser degree. I'm a happy gramma.

Karen said...

I've never commented before but wanted to regarding Jon getting out of the van to say goodbye to the kids.

I just watched the video again and you can see a cooler in the middle of the front two seats. Crawling over it would've been difficult at best, hence the reason Jon got out.

Katan Kreiderstein's house of horrors said...

Here's an opinion from a sheeple site (shows how insanely stupid her followers are):

"The filming of the kids by the paparazzi needs to STOP. A father who allows or invites paps to invade his children is just evil! "
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I guess it is 'okay' for a mom to do it, by her logic? geesh!

Brummygirl said...

On "Z"'s site, Baltimore Sun, someone has forwarded the videos of Collin's dilemma and one more, to Mr. Murt. I wonder if anyone has forwarded this latest video to him?
Without going back over the blogs, how do we contact Mr. Murt.

Canadian Mom said...

http://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity-lifestyle/celebrities/exclusives/mary-kate-olsen-interview


When reminiscing about her Full House days, MKO says her and sister Ashley were like "little monkey performers". She adds "I look at old photos of me, and I don't feel connected to them at all… I would never wish my upbringing on anyone…" - Mary-Kate Olsen (CHILD STAR)

"little monkey performers", huh? Somehow, I think the Gosselin kids feel the same way....

Midnight Serenade said...

"I wonder if anyone has forwarded this latest video to him?
Without going back over the blogs, how do we contact Mr. Murt."

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tmurt@pahousegop.com

Peyton said...

"Here's an opinion from a sheeple site (shows how insanely stupid her followers are):

"The filming of the kids by the paparazzi needs to STOP. A father who allows or invites paps to invade his children is just evil! "
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I guess it is 'okay' for a mom to do it, by her logic? geesh!"

They are a strange bunch, aren't they? It would almost be laughable if they weren't so darn serious! I often wonder about their intelligence level and their reasoning ability. They have no concept of logical thinking.

Christi said...

So, I realize that my comment will be like preaching to the choir, but I just had to vent, and I know that logic and reason are not acceptable at fan sites, so my points would fall on deaf ears…

I don’t usually watch the videos, but after seeing the comments about this latest one, I had to watch. Wow – absolutely appalling! So, then, I had to find out how in the world the sheeple could possibly construe this video in a positive light toward Kate and make it, yet again, Jon’s fault.

So, I went to B.M.’s site, and holy crap! The responses were scary! For instance, a frequent poster said (and several others agreed) something to the effect of why didn’t Jon tell the paps to go away, why doesn’t Jon have the fatherly instinct to protect his kids from the cameras, and my favorite, “this kind of video is EXPLOITING the kids” (their use of caps, not mine). A just about spit my pop out of my mouth at the hypocrisy!

So, apparently, getting into a pointless shouting match with the paps (who are going to stay and get their shot regardless) would be a much better use of Jon’s limited time to say goodbye to and hug his children. If he had chosen to fight the paps being there, we would instead be discussing a video of him talking to the paps with his kids crying in the background, and people would be lambasting him for that! But, that’s what Kate does everyday – mug for the cameras at the expense of the needs of her children, but that’s okay?

And, the paparazzi being there at the drop off the kids (which I don’t believe was Jon’s doing, and was beyond his control) and documenting their real life reactions to having to leave their Dad is evil exploitation by their father, but their mother choosing to have a TLC camera capturing every cry, meltdown and bowel movement is simply smart parenting and good TV?! I don’t get it!!!

.02 said...

VIP passes to disney, but these kids are exchanged in full view of the public.

Not a fan of either parent, but I think the wailing was because Jon was leaving, not because they did not want to be returned to Kate.

Divorce can be really hard on kids.

Brummygirl said...

Thank you Midnight Serenade for Rep Murt's addy.

dustilies said...

What Kate is doing by refusing to let Jon drive up the house to drop the kids off is beyond childish.

1) she is giving the kids the message that Dad will pollute their "happy home" with his presence. A very strong way of saying that Daddy is an outsider.

2) but for the kids, Daddy is right at the center of their world. Kids see through hypocrisy and parental manipulation well before the teenage year. They know that Dad is no threat to THEM, therefore this banishment is all about Mama's drama.

3) By not giving him the code, she traps him and the vanful of kids exactly where the paps can photograph them. If she really feels she or the kids are in danger, wouldn't she think that Jon would need to be able to get right through quickly, lest criminals be waiting to pounce?

Is this what happens at every custody handover? This scene shouldn't be any family's "normal."

Anonymous said...

My two cents for what it is worth - when my kids were little, they favored me over my husband. It was painful, and yet I understood. He had (and still has) a difficult time connecting with them, often lost his patience, and I would guess that they often felt less safe with him than with me.

Seeing how Kate Gosselin interacts with her children on tv (which is fake, but all that I have to judge her by), I am not at all surprised that her children would favor their father. I would guess that they do not feel as safe or as comfortable with her. I would also guess she has a difficult time connecting to them, and is often uncomfortable with them. I live it in my home so I feel I can spot it in other families. And I definitely see it here, loud and very clearly.

It is just sad to me that the parent who is probably the 'better' parent (for those kids) is not the one who is with them the majority of the time.

Hiring: ADULT Daddy said...

Does anyone else think that it's unlikely Jon will EVER be taken seriously unless/until he ceases and desists on the body are AND takes off the backward baseball hat. Oh, and mans up by getting a job, getting the kids OFF tv, and setting up his own home for his time with his kids?

fidosmommy said...

It just occurred to me that Kate may not want Jon picking up or delivering the children at the house because she does not want to have to listen to them shriek for joy that Daddy is there, or cry with bitter tears that Daddy is leaving.

It makes her look bad. She does not want to deal with it.

Now, with the release of this video, Kate may rethink things and allow Jon to at least come half way up the driveway so paps can't hear the children anymore.

Just a thought.

GoPoshGo said...

The Sheeple are positively frightening in their lack of logic and their inability to recognize their own hypocrisy. Jon’s a bad parent for allowing the paps to photograph/film the kids … yet their Queen gets a free pass for doing the exact same thing on practically a daily basis. I suppose it shouldn’t surprise me, since this is the same group who truly believe Kate cares for her children, does housework, cooks, single-handedly maintains the McOrphanage, is uber-organized, has her original boobs, and isn’t a complete bitch.

I read on Werny’s blog that Jon’s get-away-ride provider at the end of the video is apparently a pap-turned-friend of Jon. If that is true, here’s my 2 cents on that heart-breaking video: Although I don’t think it was “staged” or fake, I do think that Jon schemed with his pap friends to catch the drop-off on film. I don’t doubt for a second that the kids’ hysterics were real, and likely happen each time Jon has to turn the kids back over to Kate. With TLC’s muzzle firmly in place, though, Jon can’t publically say anything negative about Kate, the kids’ unhappiness, or Kate’s evil-spirited rules (i.e., Jon being banished from the property). I think the video is Jon’s F-U to Kate and TLC – under the guise of the paps catching a heart-breaking and awkward moment on film, Jon gets to reveal just how miserable the kids are, and how spitefully Kate is treating him. No breach of contract, and the world gets a glimpse of the REAL reality in Gosselin-land.

Cry Me a RIver said...

My take on those people who can't see past the nose on their face to see that they are validating Khatan and ripping Jon for the same exact thing same in the same breath --

Misery loves company.

Mary said...

Hi I wonder how fast if this video was the other way around Jon was picking up kids. How fast would it be on the View, Today, Extra, Et,and those other show that love Kate. shameful was need the side door opened to walk into the back of van. I am sure those kids were punished.. Kaye will never accept that. No dinner and a spanking for them

Kate Kreiderstein, House of Horrors said...

Go Posh Go said:..

I think the video is Jon’s F-U to Kate and TLC – under the guise of the paps catching a heart-breaking and awkward moment on film, Jon gets to reveal just how miserable the kids are, and how spitefully Kate is treating him. No breach of contract, and the world gets a glimpse of the REAL reality in Gosselin-land.
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Agreed. I am sure this is not the first hysterical custody exchange, and although it is hard to watch, Jon is doing a service for his children--hopefully someone will step up and help these kids. This would be a great video for a custody hearing. I am not surprised Khate doesn't go to get the kids, she can't be bothered with the 8 little assets unless they are filming.

Jon, redeem thyself.

bbeau said...

GoPoshGo said...

I think the video is Jon’s F-U to Kate and TLC – under the guise of the paps catching a heart-breaking and awkward moment on film, Jon gets to reveal just how miserable the kids are, and how spitefully Kate is treating him. No breach of contract, and the world gets a glimpse of the REAL reality in Gosselin-land.

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I think you're absolutely correct!

Christi said...

I totally agree with you, GoPoshGo, on your take on the possibility of Jon scheming with a paparazzi friend. So, maybe the Kate fans have got that part right ... However, I don't think it should matter one way or the other. Regardless of why the paps were there and if it was "planned" for them to film the dropoff, there is no way that the kids were acting or faking those hysterics, and all the camera caught was the truth. Supposedly, the whole point of J&K+8 was to document their everyday, real lives, so this shouldn't be any different. The sheeple can't accept the fact that the footage of the kids' behavior makes Kate look bad, so instead, they immaturely blame the messenger!

KATEisAgoddessApparently said...

Hiring: ADULT Daddy said...
Does anyone else think that it's unlikely Jon will EVER be taken seriously unless/until he ceases and desists on the body are AND takes off the backward baseball hat. Oh, and mans up by getting a job, getting the kids OFF tv, and setting up his own home for his time with his kids?
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Does anyone else think that it's unlikely KATE will ever be taken seriously unless/until she ceases and desists on her body (wha?) and takes off the wig and hair extensions. OH, and womans up by getting a job, getting the kids OFF TV, and setting up her own home for her time with her kids?

pinkdiamond611 said...

When I first began to read this site, the J&K were referred to as the Kons. Nothing about their reality show was "real". Jon does not have a job. He is still living off his kids. Kart is still living off her kids, working them to the bone. BOTH parents are selfish, putting their own needs before that of the children. If Jon tipped off the paps, he is just as evil as the Kart. Two wrongs do not make a right. Situations in the past that he allowed to be filmed, toileting, sickness, etc. was always blamed on Kart. Sorry as much as I dislike Kart, I can't find blame with her this time. The children are treated like "objects: that can be used to obtain cash or other favors.

Midnight Serenade said...

"Jon gets to reveal just how miserable the kids are, and how spitefully Kate is treating him. No breach of contract, and the world gets a glimpse of the REAL reality in Gosselin-land."

Which is exactly what he should have done. I think you're right on this, and maybe he is smarter than we give him credit for!

Once In A Blue Moon said...

"she is giving the kids the message that Dad will pollute their "happy home" with his presence. A very strong way of saying that Daddy is an outsider.'

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What does she tell them when they ask her why Daddy isn't allowed in their house, and why Daddy can't play ball with them in their yard? They bought the property, and yet they cannot make the decision that would allow him to be a father and share their turf. To what extent has she poisoned their minds against him? Good grief -- no wonder their little lives are in an emotional upheaval.

How sad is that? It's going to come back to haunt her...just wait and see. What goes around, comes around.

Summertime Blues said...

"If Jon tipped off the paps, he is just as evil as the Kart."

Nope. Not if he needed evidence in the custody case, which has not been settled. If this is the only way he can get proof that these children are miserable in their own home, have a fear of leaving their father, then this is exactly what he should have done. There was no other way...he didn't badmouth his ex, he didn't go on national television proclaiming how horrible a mother she is, and there was no breach of contract,

He captured the evidence the only way he knew how. Who knows -- if the paps were tipped off, maybe it was at the suggestion of his legal counsel.

Penny Lane said...

"She very rarely, if ever, reveals sources and proof of her rumors, and you'll notice that the far-out rumors come when the media stories slow down."

The rumor about the drunken chicken episode...when asked by someone for a copy of the police report, the response was that none was filed. Bull. Even if no formal complaint was filed, the police have detailed logs about where they go and when. If this were not a rumor, one would think that with all of that person's connections, some kind of documentation could have been provided.

Didn't that person also say the kids were in Europe when, in fact, they were in Alaska? So much for insider information.

Seems like quite a few people are grabbing for 15 minutes...

jibberjabbers said...

GoPoshGo said...

I read on Werny’s blog that Jon’s get-away-ride provider at the end of the video is apparently a pap-turned-friend of Jon.

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And if you believe that, she also has a post of Jon "sneaking" into the McMansion "releasing" the Chickens causing great harms because of the wolves that are out there.

Oh yeah, and since Kate is such a great person, when she found out that it was Jon, she didn't call the police.

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LOL. That guy could be anyone. Ellen's brother? Anyone..

kate can't do sh** said...

I haven't watched Kate's show for some time now because she gives me the dry heaves. However, if I was to be completely honest with myself, I would have to say I watched to see what Katie had done this time to transform herself compared to the last time. I don't give a crap about what the kids are up to, doesn't really interest me much since Jon and Kate split the family up and they are no longer a happy little unit. But I believe most people watch for the same reason. They are drawn to watch because they want to see the Queen Bee and what she has transformed herself in to this time. It's not about the cute little ankle-biters and their antics. It's about watching the bitch of the century and her audacious attitude. Her barking orders and flirting/yammering at the camera-man is what people like to see. They want a glimpse of the inside of her mansion and how she managed to go from rags to riches with little to no effort. It's like a car accident. You don't want to look but you can't help yourself. Watching her go from a nobody to a recognizable TV person gives people an escape in their lives and it's a vicarious experience for some. I have a stressful job and love watching mindless TV in the evenings. I take a lot of ribbing for it. But it takes me away for a while and I don't have to think about anything logical for the brief time I am glued to the set. But I digress. Watching her show probably got my blood pressure up because I wanted to reach inside the TV and throttle her. AND I HATED ALL THE TRIPS AND FREEBIES with no gratitude attached!!! That was the icing on the cake for me. JMO.

Hippie Chick said...

Maybe the reason the media outlets haven't jumped all over this video of the kids being dropped off is because they don't give one iota about Kate. Kate may think she's a big "star", but this is a perfect example right here about how her 15 minutes may be up. If this was a bigger celebrity, the media would have been all over it, but no one is touching it. IMO, I honestly think they just don't care about The Gosselin's anymore. Or, this is the beginning of the end.

Cry Me a RIver said...

I don't understand about the side door thing. The kids were strapped in - they were hysterical. He gave them each a hug and tried to comfort them. He knew it would not be good for them to go into the house like that and he would not get to help them out of the van - they had to remain seated until the cold-hearted nanny took them down the driveway to their worthless mother. He was clearly upset.

The guy backed away when he opened the door, so the kids in the van would not see him. He didn't shoot inside the van.

Does anyone wonder if Kate sets it up for him to come and film her running with her sprayed on abs or when the kids are literally being drug through one airport after another by their handlers while she walks ahead in her too tight shirt and skirt not to be bothered by all the commotion and to get her daily.

The paps camp out there - they are clearly visible 2 to 3 of them all the time. Particularly this same one that Khatan is on a first name basis with. They knew he had the kids and would be returning them. They know their routines, their comings and goings.

There is no way to spin this to make it anything other than what it is. The kids were upset about leaving their daddy and having to go back to their mommy. It got captured on film as has every other milestone in their pitiful little lives at the behest of their mother.

Anonymous said...

It's an old trick. Divert attention from what's going on with the children by redirecting attention to something extraneous. How the paparrazi got there has nothing to do with the children's real distress.

Alfii

Cry Me a RIver said...

As an aside I just noticed the stupid marathon is on. I wonder if there is anybody that is actually watching that. I couldn't get past it fast enough when I was flipping through the channels. That is a far cry from the time when they were a real family and I would watch every marathon. Thanks alot Khate for screwing up my favorite show.

wildflowers said...

GoPoshGo said...

I read on Werny’s blog that Jon’s get-away-ride provider at the end of the video is apparently a pap-turned-friend of Jon.

and....Kate's 'body gaurd' apparantly has been a 'family friend' for over 9 years. So this 'Werny's' point is mute. The issue at hand isnt about the past or present occupation of the individual driving Jon's get away ride, but the REALITY of SIX children crying hysterically for their father.

pinkdiamond611 said...

If Jon is serious about this custody case that others allude to then he should hire professionals,i.e. private investigators, to boost his case. He doesn't need to have the paps film his children in distress and then post it on the internet.

MabelD said...

Gosselin kids: New hearing set on child labor reform

Pennsylvania legislator Thomas Murt moved another step closer to his goal of reforming the child labor laws in the state where TLC's "Kate Plus 8" is filmed.

The Democrats who control the House Labor Committee in Pennsylvania have agreed to a date for bipartisan hearings on Murt’s bill to reform the state’s child labor laws as they pertain to reality TV.

The hearings will be held Sept. 23 in Harrisburg. While a list of testifiers has not been set yet, Murt. a Republican, is expected to testify.

Chilo advocate Paul Petersen, a one-time child star on "The Donna Reed Show," has been in Harrisburg all week meeting with lawmakers, business leaders and the media in an attempt to further the efforts of Murt.

more…
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2010/08/gosselin_kids_new_hearing_set.html

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