Sunday, June 6, Kate Plus 8, 6th Birthday Surprise

Another year has flown by for Kate and her adorable kids. The little ones are turning six, and Kate's planning a special birthday filled with exciting celebrations. Will she be able to keep it a surprise or will she crack under the pressure?

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Teryn said...

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

She is such a LIAR!!!

I was just watching Entertainment Tonight and they showed a sneak peek of the Discovery Cove show...

She says, "I'm here...by myself
(meaning without help)."

That is such CRAP!!!!

She was there with Steve, the nannies, the camera crew, the PA's, and God only knows how many Discovery Cove employees kissing her behind and waiting on her hand and foot.

It truly amazes me how easily she lies and how many people buy the crap she sells. Ugh!!!

alana said...

Wait a minute... didn't the original "teaser" say Take was "down a helper" and that was why she might "crack under the pressure?"
Ooohhh, I so admire the slick way Hate, TLC-PR, et. al. can SPIN and TWIST reality (truth)!

debbiejo said...

I tried to fast forward through the promo for Kart plus 8 when I was watching Say yes to the Dress....and I THOUGHT I heard her say "I'm down MY helper". Excuse me......is she referring to the children's father as "her helper"???????????

PatK said...

Anyone who is even remotely interested in Kate knows she doesn't take care of her house or children by herself.

Why are she and TLC trying to continue this sham?

jonandkatewho? said...

I so don't want to watch those poor children melting down, screaming, hitting and being generally miserable at Discovery Cove or anywhere else on this planet. I don't blame those children but I am sure there are people out there who just love this kind of stuff and make fun of those poor kids for their behaviors.

Just wait, Kate. That behavior may seem trivial to you now but just wait...they will grow up and then you may just have 8 really angry teenagers on your hands! And I hope she is alone to deal with it when it happens....truly alone like she deserves to be.

She is lower than pond scum.

get me a paper towel said...

Just wait, Kate. That behavior may seem trivial to you now but just wait...they will grow up and then you may just have 8 really angry teenagers on your hands!
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Now that's some footage i would watch.

jibberjabbers said...

Was an avid view of J&K plus 8. But I won't be tuning in for this one.

I hope the show tanks just like her book.

Duckman said...

"Will she be able to keep it a surprise or will she crack under the pressure?"

Wow, I didn't know that keeping a birthday celebration a secret from six little kids is more high-pressure than defusing roadside bombs in Iraq.

Bloody narcissist.

HBailey said...

I quit watching after the episode when she belittled Jon for interrupting her when they were in the interview chair. It was the "Home Sweet Home" episode. If you go to Youtube and enter Jon and Kate Plus 8 Home Sweet Home - it's part 3 of that series. She completely belittles him and he cowers down like a child. Pathetic. I'll never watch anything with them again.

Vanessa said...

So, the crew help her AT HOME, moving boxes, babysitting...BUT when on vacation SHE DOES IT ALL ALONE??!! That is what gets me about this vile woman, she'll literaly say one thing, and the next minute say the opposite!

BMWoP said...

It was pretty obvious to me that the children ( Aaden? ) were coached / directed to say on camera, "Now everything is back to normal".

Sorry, but a six year old does not come up with a line like that on their own. He must've been told to say that, or heard his mother saying that and he parroted her.

I would imagine, too, that they were coached / instructed / commanded to dance around and go crazy with excitement when the cameras came back. "Mommy said she would give us candy if we act excited when the crew gets here".

I guess we will have to wait a few more years when the kids start revealing this stuff to the media and all the things they were made to do and how they were manipulated into following a script so their mommy could be famous.

I can see them all sitting together on Oprah's couch ( Snap! Oprah will be long gone by then )and throwing Kate under the bus for her piss poor parenting and exploitation.

sendintheclowns said...

"Will she be able to keep it a surprise or will she crack under the pressure?"

The reason why Kate will 'crack under the pressure' isnt a result of her inability to keep the tup's birthday trip a surprise, but the extreme pressure of maintaining the facade that she is 'down a helper', therefore, forced to parent her children ALONE. If the J & K + 8 'reality show' proved anything , it proved that Katie Kreider doesnt do ANY THING, even parent her own children, she merely delegates the task to a helper, service provider, family 'friend', TLC film/production crew, the 'body gaurd' or any individual in the unfortunate position of being within arm's reach.

PleaseSomeoneTell Me.... said...

Send in the clowns: I am wondering the exact same things.
And I find I am STILL waiting for the answer to my chronically-posed question here on GWoP--Just WHAT IS Steve's PURPOSE??
Still waiting.......
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N.E. Psychologist said...

BMWoP said I would imagine, too, that they were coached / instructed / commanded to dance around and go crazy with excitement when the cameras came back. "Mommy said she would give us candy if we act excited when the crew gets here".
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You have more faith than I do. I'm betting they were told to do this or else! (under the penalty of severeness).

LOVE your name : )

Kate's an idiot said...

Oh no!! Dumbass Kate is about to crack because her bday surprise for the tups may be spoiled?? For fuck's sake, this woman would absolutely shrivel up and die if her life wasn't filled with manufactured drama of her own making. Surprises can be nice, but so can waiting with anticipation for a vacation (even though this wasn't much of one with the cameras and all).

From the very beginning, Kate has made everyone's life miserable and unnecessarily difficult by insisting on the stupidest things:
-ruining meals and playtime in the quest for always-clean clothes and shoes for infants/toddlers
-organic food for a struggling family of 10
-arbitrarily making the kids do things the way a non-tup would even though they're all dressed identically
-cleaning up messes before they're done doing something, such as carving pumpkins
-taping over the kids' names on their backpacks to deter kidnappers/molesters but having no problem putting their naked bodies on national tv
-getting two large dogs and not train or pay attention to them and freak out if they misbehave in any way
-et cetera

Does she just live for the drama itself? Or is it the attention she gets from her made up drama? I think she may be mentally ill; wish someone would assess her fitness as a parent.

heather said...

The problem is that the kids recollections will most likely be tainted.

How will they know which memories are accurate when the video is all false? When what mommy says isn't what she does? When all they have left of the childhood is tabloid/TLC/Natralie Morales/Today Show interviews ad maseum?

They are going to have major, major psychological issues as they grow older.

Lucy said...

"What is Steve's purpose?"

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Steve probably lies in bed at night wondering the same thing...then his wife shows him his TLC (bribe) pay stubs so he can quietly fall asleep.

Honestly though? He seems to be a purse holder/waterboy/fan barricade/Khate ego massager/babysitter mannequin type of body(manager)guard. Other than that...he doesn't seem to do a heck of a lot of professional bodyguardy type stuff.

kia ora said...

What I am waiting for is a trip to NZ with Stevie Boy. I go back home every year and I just can't imagine her in the plane making the trip, there, or even back. Lol Remember the trip in the plane where she freaked out.

I wish Jon would drink lite beer... said...

@BMWop! ITA! there is no way the tups who are speech and developmentally delayed because their mother kept them behind a year from preK and only let them go the next year 3 days a week and at the end of the year how many days have they mssed on trips to DWTS and Orlando and God knows everywhere else! there is no way the tup could come up with such an advanced statement!

Now things are back to normal.

what do you think NE pyschologist?

she is despicable!

Monster Mommy said...

I will not be watching TLC tomorrow. If you are boycotting as well, there are other great programs to watch on Sunday.

I'll be tuning in to the season Premiere of "The Next Food Network Star"- it kicks off the same time as Katie Kreider's new show!

Just My Few Canadian Cents said...

Just WHAT IS Steve's PURPOSE??
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Well he was caught on camera by one of the tabloid entertainment shoes (I think it was Entertainment Tonight) exiting the men's washroom in an airport with one of the boy tups. The look on Steve's face when the cameraman asked him if this was part of his job description (or something to that effect) was priceless.

strangeduo said...

"What is Steve's purpose?"


Is Steve, Kate's 'like family' good friend providing his 'body gaurd services pro bono or is he double dipping in to the TLC payroll 1. for the role of 'body gaurd' 2. playing the character of Kate's 'good friend'?
I wonder if Mrs. Body gaurd will also be featured speaking on behalf of 'Kate's World'.

Steve doesn't know HOW to help me said...

I think Steve is there to hold Katie Kreider's douche... err... hand bag.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"there is no way the tups who are speech and developmentally delayed because their mother kept them behind a year from preK and only let them go the next year 3 days a week"

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SHE did not keep them behind a year from Pre-K. The kids were in a pre-school program last year, and when they were tested for Kindergarten at their current school, they weren't on track with other candidates for that class. She could have yelled and screamed her head off that they should be in Kindergarten, and it wouldn't have mattered. The school places students in the acdemic programs that are the best match for them, and for the appropriate number of days.

blackisthenewblack said...

OMG--thank you Teryn! Just saw the clip online and couldn't have said it better!

chick said...

PleaseSomeoneTell Me.... said...

And I find I am STILL waiting for the answer to my chronically-posed question here on GWoP--Just WHAT IS Steve's PURPOSE??
Still waiting.......

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PSTM, that's easy. Steve is Kate emotional gigolo. He is there to make sure she doesn't completely crack up when faced with incredibly exhausting and demoralizing events like...walking amongst the unwashed populace. Or when she is forced to pretend to parent because a camera is on.

Steve is the emasculated "yes man" Kate tried to force Jon to be. The difference is, Steve either enjoys the work or he simply is too excited about the money to care that he's tossed any chance of an actual career away when Kate finally decides he "Doesn't know how to help her."

Steve's job is to keep Kate feeling important. He does this by making sure she isn't ever exposed to those who see her for what she is - an exploiter of her own children.

Steve supports Kate empotionally so that she continues to be a TLC product. Without Steve, that harridan would be completely exposed as the emotional wasteland she is,and start to wonder how on earth those poor kids could possible survive the "parenting" Kate is capable of offering. And that simply wouldn't do. Because if Kate ever loses control of those kids, she'll spin right off the deep end for good.

Don't Cry for Me, America said...

It is entirely possible that they children genuinely glad to see the camera crew and happy that things are back to "normal" in that mommie is happy whenever the film crew is around and they don't have to be alone with her. I shudder to think what the kids must endure when that happens. Talk about going on a rampage or a crying jag, words from her mouth. I am sure is a lot nicer to them when they are being filmed probably bribing them and coaching them on cute things to say and do for the camera to the Khate train rolling. T

Pa Mom Knows said...

I had to laugh when I read the local newspaper's "television highlights for this weekend."

"Kate Plus Eight. She's back. A year after her tearful and over-documented split with her husband, Kate Gosselin return to cable with two helpings of Kate Plus 8...as we've come to expect from these outings, at least some of tonight's 8 involves the procurement and consumption of birthday cake."

N.E. Psychologist said...

@ lite beer: "there is no way the tup could come up with such an advanced statement!"

I agree. I'm not sure his mother could do so either.

Stephanie said...

Of the many things I find pathetic about this entire thing is that so many people still think Kate is a great mom. Not only a great mom, but a struggling mom who is only doing what is necessary to keep food on the table and a roof over their heads. The fact that other, larger families (yes, even something with single incomes for whatever reason) have found a way to manage their lives quite nicely, without pimping out the kids, doesn't seem to matter to a lot of Kate's tireless followers.

The video and pics of the tups says it all. Those children, unfortunately, seem to have developmental delays. It is evident in their speech, which is hardly intelligible at times. For children that age, it would have made a tremendous difference if they had one primary caregiver who read to them, conversed with them, engaged them in play, and so forth. Instead, they had a revolving door on their home, and it was anyone's guess who would be taking care of them for the day. They had no consistency. Kate was too busy using them to build a career, taking them on trip after trip provided by TLC, to do the simple things like reading to them, talking to them just to talk to them (instead of belittling them, humiliating them, trying to keep them babies), and let them know that...paycheck or not...they are important.

My concern for these children, particularly the youngest ones, is that they have been robbed of the most vital years for healthy brain development, and were used as props in Kate's desire to become famous, rather than invested in as children who deserved...and could have had...a brilliant future without relying on TLC to provide that for them.

There is still hope that the tups may catch up, but the most critical years for brain development are the first 5. Instead of celebrating the fact that they were learning their letters, speaking intelligibly, and learning sight words, Kate and her whole system of enablers were more concerned with what the tups did that may increase ratings. It's very sad. The tups are already paying a heavy price for this, and the cost will only get steeper as they get older.

Mady and Cara have paid a price, too, but they did have the benefit of three years of "normal" (whatever that may be when Kate is your mother) before this whole circus came to town. They are intelligent girls, and it shows. I worry about the tups, though. They still seem so infantile. It's sad.

bcsurvivor2001 said...

Teryn said...
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

She is such a LIAR!!!

I was just watching Entertainment Tonight and they showed a sneak peek of the Discovery Cove show...

She says, "I'm here...by myself
(meaning without help)."

That is such CRAP!!!!
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Wait a minute - she keeps touting having to go this 'alone'......LAST YEAR when they took their 2 week vacation in NC she was ALONE - it was right after the divorce announcement.

So if she did it last year, she can't do it this year? Even though we ALL know she is so far from being alone - it's scary.

2badsosad said...

I did not see TLC's return to the Konpound and the tup declaring that 'everything is now back to normal'. Question. Were ALL 8 (EIGHT) of the Gosselin children present and accounted for, or were ONLY the tups ie, Mommy's little money makers feeling their life 'back to normal' with the arrival of TLC at their door?

Laurie said...

Here's the thing (another Monk fan)

The Next Food Network Star comes on at the same time so I will be watching that.

Laurie said...

PA Mom Knows....Good to see you back. I've missed your insightful comments.

seacitygirl said...

I will not be watching. I stopped caring at the New House epi where she claimed "Mine all mine". It was enough.

I simply don't care to watch anymore. And that is a good thing. TLC banks on hatred of Kate to turn people into the show.

As a marriage counselor, I know that I can work with a couple when there is still emotion. And hate is an emotional. It can be played with (as TLC knows What I can't work with is apathy. Apathy is not caring, once a relationship is apathic it is over. They just don't care. Anger you can work through, not caring (there is nothing to be done)

Kate's Nemesis said...

Just FYI...
Re: Joel saying- "It's all back to normal again!" to TLC cameras, on the upcoming show.

I was watching ET, and they were showing "Katie Kreider Plus 8" clips. When he said that, he was talking about the basement being back to normal now... Now that the dance floor has been scrapped!

They don't know that new crew from Adam. The old TLC crew, now work in Arkansas... with the Duggars.

pa mom too said...

Pa Mom Knows said...
"there is no way the tups who are speech and developmentally delayed because their mother kept them behind a year from preK and only let them go the next year 3 days a week"

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SHE did not keep them behind a year from Pre-K. The kids were in a pre-school program last year, and when they were tested for Kindergarten at their current school, they weren't on track with other candidates for that class. She could have yelled and screamed her head off that they should be in Kindergarten, and it wouldn't have mattered. The school places students in the acdemic programs that are the best match for them, and for the appropriate number of days.

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I heard a few of the kids were ready, and a few weren't. I couldn't tell you where I heard that though....maybe Jon said it. ?

pa mom too said...

Vanessa said...
So, the crew help her AT HOME, moving boxes, babysitting...BUT when on vacation SHE DOES IT ALL ALONE??!! That is what gets me about this vile woman, she'll literaly say one thing, and the next minute say the opposite!
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No one even has to try to catch Kate in a lie. All you have to do is wait for her to open her mouth and start talking. If I was interviewing her, I would say, "excuse me, but you just said......, then you said..... , can you clear that up for me ?" And I would continue to do that to her the entire time until she got up and ran away or Steve came in and grabbed me by the arm.

No Worry, Beef Curry said...

@ PA Mom Knows

In that case, the tups should be going to school full-time... at least 5 days a week!

According to Kate, on Entertainment Tonight- her 6 year olds are still saying they want to ride on a "HAIR PAIN". At that age, they can not pronounce airplane?

Maybe a little less TLC camera time and more hands-on Mommy time, would allow for the natural mental development of the children. Kate does not want to promote that though... They must remain "babies" for as long as possible. Seems like she is prolonging their entering grammar school, and I'm pretty sure why. What's next? Katie Kreider Reality TV Star and... Home School Teacher?

JoyinVirginia said...

Our family has been to Discovery Cove three times. We had a timeshare in Orlando when the kids were little. Anyone want to come over and see my DVDs and photos of our vacation trips? I guarantee absolutely NO product placement!
Did you know that if you go and do NOT purchase the dolphin swim, the tickets are much less expensive and you still have a terrific day and lots of activities. It is one of our favorite places to spend a day in Orlando. I got to take a private botanical tour of the part last time we went. No one else showed up for the tour, and the gardener took me on a private tour. I felt just like a special celebrity!
As I am typing this, we (DH, younger DD, me) are watching the movie UP. The scene was just on where Russell describes that his father used to come to all his Scout meeting, then they would get ice cream, and sit on a curb and count red and blue cars. Russell says "That might sound boring, but it is the boring stuff that you remember most."
That is something very true. And something I think Ms. Kreider will never ever understand.

K8STFU said...

SHE did not keep them behind a year from Pre-K. The kids were in a pre-school program last year, and when they were tested for Kindergarten at their current school, they weren't on track with other candidates for that class. She could have yelled and screamed her head off that they should be in Kindergarten, and it wouldn't have mattered. The school places students in the acdemic programs that are the best match for them, and for the appropriate number of days.

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That may be the case for "normal" students, but I still think TLC paid some good $$$$ to keep the kids on an abbreviated school schedule to accommodate filming.

I also find it hard to believe that ALL 6 of the tups were not "ready". And if the tups weren't quite ready, well maybe pulling them out of school to film wasn't such a good idea.

PA Mom, my frustration is not directed at you, but the situation.

Chris said...

Pa Mom Knows said...
"there is no way the tups who are speech and developmentally delayed because their mother kept them behind a year from preK and only let them go the next year 3 days a week"

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That 2 afternoon a week "pre-K" had me wondering if Pre-K is different on the East Coast from the West Coast. Out here (California) 9-12, 5 days a week is the minimum. Some schools extend the mandatory time to include lunch.

I still think that the tups apparent delays were caused by the parents.

Jane in California said...

I think that Katie Kreider and TLC purposely kept the tups in a shortened school program. I know next to nothing about the school system in PA, but I do know about programs in CA and VA for children who have special needs or are otherwise developmentally delayed. They are not placed in shortened school days, but rather often the opposite seems to occur. Early intervention is shown to be very beneficial for working to correct delays, etc.

If the children are developmentally delayed, then I would expect to see them receiving additional educational services, such as speech therapy, on top of their regular school classes.

While I think that some of the tups may indeed be somewhat delayed, due to the fact that neither parent seems to have ever even read a book to them, plus constantly being berated and treated like they are still 3, I find it extremely unlikely that all 6 are so delayed they had to be held back yet another year. I call shenanigans.

And finally, Katie Kreider is probably going to make her tups sit in high chairs and wear bibs until they are 10 years old, and wear matching clothing until they are 30. Ms. Kreider - you need some serious help!

Katie's Little Helper said...

Pre-K is not mandatory (as of yet) in any state (but the push for Universal Pre-K is there). In Pennsylvania, Kindergarten is not mandatory. If I'm understanding where these kids attend school, it is a private school program that is probably a lot like glorified day care. They set up their program any way they see fit.

Here is a really eye opening article about early elementary education in Pennsylvania.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_325248.html

I feel fortunate to be in Maryland where Kindergarten is mandatory. My younger children went to full day Kindergarten 5 days a week with no seperation issues or meltdowns. They are bright, well adjusted boys with an incredible vocabulary and a love of reading and creating. Other states need to get their act together.

GIMME GIMME said...

That is so true about the boring stuff. I took my child to Legoland when he was 5 and he barely remembers. He would have enjoyed it so much more if I had waited. Since I am on another coast can't hardly take him back now.

His favorite thing in the whole wide world is for me to stop what I am doing and a watch a movie with him with popcorn even though he is tween now.

My favorite episode back when I was an avid watcher was the Friday night movie night. It was so natural and relaxed and something I could relate to. All of my favorite episodes revolve around them just being filmed at home being themselves back in the good ole days before they started playing to the cameras. I wouldn't miss it in the early days and watched all the marathons.

Then they moved to the big house and that was the end of that.

GIMME GIMME said...

They want to ride on a "hair plane" and she is not correcting their grammar? Look for the kids to be doing a lot more flying as that is a plant to make people think they want to fly.

They have been flying a lot back and forth to Cali twice at least and then to Florida but yet they still long to ride in a hair plane? Who is she trying to kid?

pinkdiamond611 said...

I am a teacher, so I pay close attention to all of the "school" posts. What we know as fact is that the children attend a PRIVATE school. Private schools make up their own rules and don't have to follow the same procedures as public schools. Also, somewhere along these pages it had been posted that 3 of the children were ready for Kindergarten, and 3 of the children were not ready. No names were listed. So they held ALL six over into "junior kindergarten". In NY we don't have this "Jr. Kindergarten", but researching it, I wish we did. It is a step for children who are not ready for the new academic demands of today's K programs. For the three who needed the extra time, this is great. But what about the three who were ready for Kindergarten? There was no reason why they couldn't go to the full day Kindergarten, except for the fact that they would not be available for filming.

MayDay said...

I have noticed many posts referring to Kate as "Katie Krieder or Ms. Krieder" Has she gone back to her maiden name? Did I miss something?

Kate's an idiot said...

The tups' delays are probably nature and nurture related. Neither of their parents are exceptionally bright; I think Kate in particular is dull minded. However, even not-so-smart kids can fluorish if encouraged. Neither Kate nor Jon seem to be interested in teaching the kids anything. Books and reading do not seem to be as important as matching clothes. Kate so wants to escape interacting with her kids that I'm sure they spend more time with TV and Nintendo than with people. Kate is so damn shallow that I doubt she'd spend $ on something intangible, like tutors or therapists, to help her kids; providing 'stuff' for them is the only way Kate understands how to take care if them. She thinks if they have a nice house and matching clothes and the illusion of happiness, them all is well. Meanwhile, she has six kids who will face the world with so many disadvantages: lack of smarts and social skills, laziness and entitlement, emotional scars, etc. They will probably have horrible grammar and lack general knowledge like their mom. When Kate speaks, it's obvious that she is not highly educated or well read. Awesome.

maggie said...

PA MA wrote:
SHE did not keep them behind a year from Pre-K. The kids were in a pre-school program last year, and when they were tested for Kindergarten at their current school, they weren't on track with other candidates for that class.
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Didn't I read somewhere that in Kate's latest flop of a book, she says that Colin may be a genius! So the genius couldn't even make the cut for kindergarten?

konspiracytheory said...

No Worry, Beef Curry said:

"@ PA Mom Knows

In that case, the tups should be going to school full-time... at least 5 days a week!"

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Exactly, No Worry! I have a lot of experience in this area (2 of 3 children w/ developmental delays) - if their school's answer to them not being ready is to have them in school fewer hours/week then I wouldn't have any confidence in that school. If any/all of them were not ready due to dev delays, they should have gone through the CPSE (Committee on Preschool Special Education) process to get IEPs (Individualized Education Plan) that would mandate *more* educational services, not fewer!

Pa Mom Knows said...

"Pa Mom Knows said...
"there is no way the tups who are speech and developmentally delayed because their mother kept them behind a year from preK and only let them go the next year 3 days a week"

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I did not say that. I was RESPONDING to the above comment by saying the following:

SHE did not keep them behind a year from Pre-K. The kids were in a pre-school program last year, and when they were tested for Kindergarten at their current school, they weren't on track with other candidates for that class. She could have yelled and screamed her head off that they should be in Kindergarten, and it wouldn't have mattered. The school places students in the academic programs that are the best match for them, and for the appropriate number of days.

The younger children go to school THREE DAYS A WEEK, from 8 a.m. to 3 p.m. This is the normal school day. The twins go to school FIVE DAYS A WEEK, from 8 a.m. to 3 p.m. This is NOT a public school, and as such, is not subject to the rules and regulations of the PA public school system. It was NOT, and I repeat, NOT Kate's decision, or TLC's decision to place them in Pre-K.

Payson48 said...

Are those real birds? Where am I? Who am I? Who are you?
Hopefully a nanny can straighten all this out. Mom is too busy with her face in the camera.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"I find it extremely unlikely that all 6 are so delayed they had to be held back yet another year. I call shenanigans."

This is not a public school. This is an academically-progressive private school where the students are on a much more advanced level than those in the public school system. If they are not on the same academic level as those students in Kindergarten, the school places them in the appropriate class rather than having them struggle to keep up with their peers in a grade that is too advanced for them. The school knows what it is doing, and comprehensive testing is done to determine the appropriate grade level. Had they been on target with other Kindergarten students, they would have been placed in that class. This is done in the best interests of the children.

Jane in California said...

konspiracy said:
If any/all of them were not ready due to dev delays, they should have gone through the CPSE (Committee on Preschool Special Education) process to get IEPs (Individualized Education Plan) that would mandate *more* educational services, not fewer!
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BINGO. I too have family experience with sibs having children with dev delays. It is always more rather than less, because the earlier the intervention, the better chance to help your child reach his or her highest level of achievement.

fidosmommy said...

So, I guess my response to the education that the young Gosselin children are getting is: will we be able to see that 3 days a week in a private Pre-K have helped them in their educational journey? Or will they still seem to be behind? Personally, I haven't seen too much improvement between last season and the previews of this season. Sorry, but I don't.


RE: the high chairs. Yes, they are convertible to booster chairs.
But really, how many 6 year olds have you seen at a booster chair to eat? Do they use them at their school at lunchtime? Or do they sit in a regular lunchroom chair and eat their lunch? I have never seen 6 year olds eating in booster chairs at any restaurant, nor have I seen it done in homes of friends with Kindergardners. The children sit in regular chairs and eat like the adults do. Toddlers are often in booster chairs in restaurants, and I've seen a very short-statured adult use one, but not a
6 year old.

I wonder if TLC is reading this and suddenly we're going to have Kate ask all the kids to sit around the table in regular chairs
to show that they can't see over the top - or something. My bet is Kate couldn't get anybody to cough up the gift of 6 new chairs for the kids to sit in for their meals.

thunderbird said...

No Worry, Beef Curry said--

>>> What's next? Katie Kreider Reality TV Star and ...Home School Teacher? <<<

KK is far too academically challenged (to put it nicely) to teach the kids anything, don't you have to have some sort of certification to do that?....besides, that would require her to have more intimate interaction with her kids and we all know she doesn't like being with them any more than she has to, i.e. only when the cameras are rolling at a theme park.

IDModo said...

If three of the children were ready for kindergarten, they should have been allowed to go, instead of being held back. There is no reason on earth why these children have to attend school in lockstep, as if they were one entity instead of six distinct personalities.
If any of them are even somewhat bright, holding them back will be damaging to their future learning and school socialization experiences.
As to a language delay- if the children have nobody to have meaningful conversations with on a daily basis, except a primary Nanny whose first language is not English,then they will pick up their language cues from each other and not progress.Add to the mix a mother who still refers to them as "my Babies" and thinks baby talk is cute- there is more of a payoff for them to speak like younger children than there is to grow up.They have seen how Kate is in the process of beginning to treat the twins less caringly as they get older.
Just my opinion of course..

ToTheMoonAlice said...

MayDay said...
I have noticed many posts referring to Kate as "Katie Krieder or Ms. Krieder" Has she gone back to her maiden name? Did I miss something?

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Nah, we just call her that because she's using the "Gosselin" brand name to make money, and she doesn't deserve to...And I think it really ticks her off, which is the best reason of all.

K8STFU said...

My favorite episode back when I was an avid watcher was the Friday night movie night. It was so natural and relaxed and something I could relate to. All of my favorite episodes revolve around them just being filmed at home being themselves back in the good ole days before they started playing to the cameras. I wouldn't miss it in the early days and watched all the marathons.

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With all due respect Gimme Gimme,

NONE of the episodes were "natural and relaxed". They are all scripted for filming purposes.

K8 and Jon said that "movie night" was a weekly (IIRC) tradition. Well, seems to me that "tradition" went out the reality window along with the kids' special days, pancake days and going to church, among others.

Your son is very lucky to be able to enjoy a REAL movie night with you ............

PA Grammy said...

As the grandmother of a 3 year old with autism and many developmental delays - I have to say that more is more. Since she was 2 1/2 years old, the Early Intervention Program in her school district in Maryland has had her in school 5 days/week from 8:30am to 11:15am. Then last summer for 7 weeks 4 days/week. In the fall, her twin, who does not have special needs but the school district has kids without special needs in the classrooms with those who do, also began attending on the same schedule. In March, the twin with special needs began to stay until 1pm and came home on the bus and my daughter picked up the other twin at 11:15. This summer the one with special needs will also go for 7 weeks and in the fall, they both will go all day for 5 days/week.

This is a public school system and one of the best, in my opinion. My granddaughter has blossomed from all this interaction, structure and therapy. Daily, there are occupational therapists, speech therapists, physical therapists, and psychologists working with these children. And my daughter's children benefit as their mom and dad are tax-payers. (Do have to add, they pay for the twin without special needs to attend.)

My point is that the Gosselin 6 may be in need of some extra time and attention to be ready for school due to their developmental delays, but 3 days/week hardly seems to be enough. Like I said, more is more.

TooToxicForMe said...

TOOTOXICFORME

I think Kate and TLC are responsible for the kids not starting Kindergarten until this fall. I think the emotional stress of living on camera, the absence of both parents for weeks at a time, the lack of one on one parent/child time unless a camera was in their faces all contribute to their delays. It is not a question of how bright any of the children are, instead all these children live in the middle of a war zone and sadly we are just beginning to see some of the effects.

Nannette said...

Pa Mom Knows said...
"I find it extremely unlikely that all 6 are so delayed they had to be held back yet another year. I call shenanigans."

This is not a public school. This is an academically-progressive private school where the students are on a much more advanced level than those in the public school system. If they are not on the same academic level as those students in Kindergarten, the school places them in the appropriate class rather than having them struggle to keep up with their peers in a grade that is too advanced for them. The school knows what it is doing, and comprehensive testing is done to determine the appropriate grade level. Had they been on target with other Kindergarten students, they would have been placed in that class. This is done in the best interests of the children.

6/06/2010 9:35 AM



I teach kindergarten. I find it hard to believe that ALL of the children weren't ready for regular kindergarten. Hannah and Leah do not strike me as developmentally delayed that they would need another year of pre-K only 3 days a week. I believe if they were held back, it was solely for the purpose of keeping all 6 in the same grade for appearances ( so the other 4 wouldn't make mommy look bad ).

I believe it was Jon and Kate's choice at the time to do the 3 days a week schooling ( which they could only do in Pre-K ) to make them more available for filming. The school year was already well under way before Jon pulled the plug on the show, and it was too late to change the school schedule.

That, AND it would completley send Kate to the nut-hut if she had to get all 8 kids ready for school 5 days a week. She got a break on Tuesdays and Thursdays only having to get 2 kids ready.

What I'm saying is, it is very unlikely that all 6 kids were not developmentally ready for regular kindergarten. The filming schedule and Kate's sanity, coupled with some of the tups not being ready is what kept them ALL held back.

Doolie said...

Pa Mom Knows said...
It was NOT, and I repeat, NOT Kate's decision, or TLC's decision to place them in Pre-K.

6/06/2010 9:29 AM



I completely disagree. I agree TLC had no part in this, but Kate surely did. Private schools most certainly do cater to parents, more so than public schools. If Kate wanted the kids in Pre-K 3 days a week, the private school would never override her decision since she is a paying client.
Some parents choose private schooling so they can have accommodations made that public schools will not. There is no way this school would insist the kids move on the kindergarten 5 days a week if the parent wanted them there only 3 days a week. And a private school will most definitely hold a sibling behind in order to keep multiples in the same grade. I've seen it time and time again. I've also seen siblings move on to the next grade in private school even though they were terribly far behind academically, to prevent them from being in the same grade as a younger sibling.
Sooooo many children in public schools transfer to private schools for these types of accommodations.

BeDoneNow said...

pinkdiamond611 said...
I am a teacher, so I pay close attention to all of the "school" posts...(snip)... Also, somewhere along these pages it had been posted that 3 of the children were ready for Kindergarten, and 3 of the children were not ready. No names were listed. So they held ALL six over into "junior kindergarten". In NY we don't have this "Jr. Kindergarten", but researching it, I wish we did. It is a step for children who are not ready for the new academic demands of today's K programs. For the three who needed the extra time, this is great. But what about the three who were ready for Kindergarten? There was no reason why they couldn't go to the full day Kindergarten, except for the fact that they would not be available for filming."
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Thank you for this post. Very informative and clear.
I think it was Jon who said 3 were ready and 3 were not.

As a mother, I am torn. It feels as if 3 were held back for no good reason. Then again on the other hand, should parents make the decision that 3 of the 6 will forever be ahead a grade? There are lifelong ramifications to that.

In a perfect world, I might have involved private tutors for the 3 that are behind, especially since there seem to be plenty of funds. I suppose we have no way of knowing if that is being done, other than she would likely have been boasting about the sacrifice she makes in providing the tutors.

readerlady said...

@ PA Mom Knows

Actually, it WAS Khate's decision to hold the tups back. Jon said on the show last year that some of the 6 tested ready for Kindergarten and some did not, so he and Khate (read Khate, because we all know how often she solicited Jon's input and listened to same) decided to hold them all back.

Sooverit said...

Regarding "hair pain" for airplane . . . I'm in grad school, studying to be a Speech Language Pathologist. I have much to learn, but I have learned that it's pretty common for kids to say things like that. It's called a phonological neologism. A child will makes sound exchanges in some words. Like saying "brad" for "bread". SLPs take language samples to help determine if a child is exhibiting language delays. I'd love to try that out with some of Kate's kids! In my unprofessional opinion (at this point anyway), if a typically developing 6 year old is saying a word incorrectly, it usually just takes a correction and a few practice tries to get it right. I worked with my son when he was three - he said "gore" instead of "girl." We practiced, and he got it - no big deal. But that required paying attention to him, so that wouldn't work for Kate.

Canadian Mom said...

If I lived in Pa, I think (if my health allowed it) I would camp out at the next 'event' Kate was scheduled to appear...and heckle her until 'they' forced me out...

At least, that's what I would HOPE to do...

SOMEONE needs to call her out, loudly and publicly...

cdnmsmom said...

The only way to get this woman off the air is to NOT WATCH. Please, please...no matter how tempting it is to watch the train wreck in motion....please don't watch.

K8STFU said...

Nanette :

I don't think K8 did/does ANYTHING in the mornings to get the kids ready for school.

That's what the not-a-nannies are for =)

msfr said...

I missed a rite of passage! I've never been to Discovery Cove. I knew something was missing from my life (not). It's unwatchable.

Rose said...

I watched the first seven minutes and had to turn it off. No way can I sit through even two more minutes of that trash. But I will say this: it is all staged, staged, staged, complete with scripts. When Kate asked the kids to guess where they were going, Hannah said "Are we going inside a peach?" and then gave the camera a sly little smile. Who wants to take bets that someone fed that line to her beforehand? The way she said it was just weird. Honestly, a five-year-old doesn't know that book (James and the Giant Peach), and they wouldn't say something like that unless prompted. One of the camera people whispered that one in her ear. No doubt.

Yeah said...

Wait, at 6 years-old they are still having "meltdowns" due to missing a nap? Maybe if they weren't jet-setting around the globe, or sitting up at night worried about their family life (just guessing here,but as a product of a nasty divorce at age 5, I felt very insecure about my family life afterward), they wouldn't need a nap at age 6. I know very few 6 year-olds that "need" naps and those that do don't have meltdowns with the occasionally missed nap.

Canadian Mom said...

Not that I condone it, but I asked my teenage son what he was watching and he replied "Jackass.".

To which I responded, "You know I don't want to contribute to Kate's ratings, honey!"

The kicker: "Not Kate's stupid show mom, the MOVIE Jackass."

One can easily be confused...

Lillie Mae Acres said...

OK, the show premier was not on hardly 5 minutes and the WITCH was bad mouthing Jon during the couch interview. About the way the kids came home from their birthday celebration with him. She snobbishly mentioned cupcakes as if they were cheap! About the gum chewing, they had fun "I guess" i think is what the witch said. Ugh!!! If he's not there, his name should not be mentioned.

Lillie Mae Acres said...

Ugh, the idiot complaining about the lond corridors at the airport. Wear tennis shoes or crocs sweetie! Only divas wear high heels and mini skirts when traveling, certainly not moms that need to be hands on and comfortable.

JoyinVirginia said...

I ended up watching the season premiere of Drop Dead Diva, that is such a fun show! And I saw an ad for a new season of Project Runway that is starting in July. YIPPEE!!
I completely forgot the MTV movie awards were on tonight! I just watched Betty White and Sandra Bullock and Scarlett Johansson, and oh my goodness Ken Leong got an award for his role in The Hangover, that was such a funny movie!

capslock said...

I DID IT! I did NOT watch. I do NOT want this woman to get any more ratings - the sooner I no longer have to see her face, the better.

I must admit, my husband and I would click on TLC when there was an ad on the station we were watching.

Every time, all we saw was her COMPLAIN. "WOE IS ME." My husband said, "She doesn't even act like a mother - she acts like a babysitter or caretaker who is tired and wants to go home."

I caught the DOLPHIN part - the fact she wants to take them home with her. I guess that would be like the dogs...they would quickly become a burden, too. Hope PA will not allow her to build a large aquarium for her at the McMansion. She shouldn't have pets, let alone CHILDREN!

UUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH.

emschick1128 said...

Celtics= One Kate=Zero

Marilyn said...

Loved the show. Kate is a great mom and the kids are cuter than ever.

Sheeple are not smart said...

The sheeple has spoken. What an exceptionally first grade analysis of the show she has, too.

I wish Jon would drink lite beer... said...

Minka's Tail said...

Minka's Tail: The bad: Kate looks like a heavy metal groupie. She has chosen a very fake, over-the-top look for herself: fake skin, fake hair, fake boobs. Noone should doubt that she had a breast augmentation now.

I wish Jon would drink lite beer:

I agree! when you get breast implants how many times do you have to go in and do augmentation maintenance. in a year?

Minka's Tail: She walked all over Jamie. Jamie stayed with sick Alexis when everyone else went to D. Cove. Then, Kate took her the next day. Jamie never got to go. Neither did her children, who are apparently best friends with Kate's. Kate has paid nannies. We all know that? Why treat a friend this way?

I wish Jon would drink lite beer:
Remember people have been posting such a long time about how Kate Kreiger gets rid of people when she has no use for them anymore. Looks like Jamie's and her children are looking like dead weight. to deny Jamie and her kids access to Discovery Cove is unacceptable. and to leave Alexis with Jamie and the child's sick? Jamie was used to help herd the kids, while hopefully they were at Universal or somewhere else good.

Minka's Tail: The most pressing concern is Mady. This child has serious anger issues, and they seem to be getting worse.

I wish Jon would drink lite beer: I feel so bad for Maddy. She is in such pain! also Cara's photo on people and the way she looks now is unbelievable! they severely photoshopped her face where she looks like a caricature of herself. i can't believe Kate Kreiger lets this go through. No, wait, Yes, I can. anything is above board for the Krieger Kreep!

PA Mom Knows said...

"i can't believe Kate Kreiger lets this go through. No, wait, Yes, I can. anything is above board for the Krieger Kreep!"

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KREIDER!

Caroline said...

I was happy to see the kids again but disappointed to see that Mady still seems as angry and miserable as ever. Kate is a complete, full-of-herself jerk, but no surprise there. The first hour was the best part of the two-hour special because the kids were involved. The second hour was a disgusting, fawning, Kate Gosselin love-fest. The attitudes of Meredith Vieira, Jim Moret, and an editor from People Magazine, Kate Coyne, were truly bizarre. All three of them were acting like, "Hey all you haters, stop hating Kate Gosselin!" Kate Coyne was especially snarly about it throughout the entire hour. It was not a classy production, to say the least.

Calgary7 said...

Will anyone ever stand up during Kate's funeral and say that the most important way to measure the success of a person was how well his/her children turned out?

My Mom's services were on Saturday. She passed away suddenly in her sleep. I was surprised and grateful when a long-time family friend stood up and asked the question about measuring the success of a parent by how well his/her children turned out.

Our friend then recited a long list of parenting acts by my Mom before pointing out all six of her children and ten of her grandchildren and said that by any measure my Mom was a success.

All of her children had university degrees, established our careers, contributed back to our community by participating in causes, own our homes, and are parenting the next generation.

Our friend started to share some of his memories and there wasn't a dry eye in sight.

My point is that will anyone ever hold Kate up as an example of a terrific parent?

This is my last comment. If I have learned anything of the events of the last week is that this:

Time is fleeting. And, I want to spend it with those I love.

I want to wish GWoP all the best in protecting the interests of the children and thank the mods for doing such a fantastic job.

pa mom too said...

Canadian Mom said...
Not that I condone it, but I asked my teenage son what he was watching and he replied "Jackass.".

To which I responded, "You know I don't want to contribute to Kate's ratings, honey!"

The kicker: "Not Kate's stupid show mom, the MOVIE Jackass."

One can easily be confused...

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That's so funny because my teenage son was also watching Jackass. I told him to make sure he didn't accidently click on TLC because Kate's on and her show is banned in this house, and he said "why would I put THAT show on?"

SAHM said...

NOTHING HAS CHANGED!!!!! I watched the first 5 mins or so up until she made the comment that discovery cove contacted them a year ago and wanted the tups to come out for their 6th b-day...... I call COMPLETE BULLSH!T on this!!!!!!!!! We all know its TLC and Kate herself that is emailing locations for them to come to. NOTHING HAS CHANGED.... give me, give me, give me is still her moto NOT clean slate kate.

Also didn't like her bad mouthing Jon in the first 5 mins.... like someone mentioned... if he isn't going to be on the show then his name should not roll off her tongue... period!! This show is suppose to be about her and the kids... hence the name of the show being called "KATE PLUS 8".

Should not have wasted 5 mins of my life seeing if this woman had changed....Not gonna waste my time watching this garbage, hope everyone else does the same.

Vanessa said...

Glad to say, I did not watch, went to bed right after Dateline. It was a special with Adam Sandler, Chris Rock, David Spade and Kevin James. They were asked if they were afraid "this" (fame, money, work...) would all go away. They all admit they know it could all go away anytime. David Spade said he had come across an old US magazine in his garage. It was from 6 years ago and MOST of the "stars" featured in it are GONE! Katie Kreider, you will follow the same path.

cossysmom said...

I didn't watch. I am so sick of this woman and so worried about these children. I truly believe that Kate love the IDEA of being a mother, but hates the REALITY of it. We have never seen her show any real love to these children (or anyone else around her). I could be editing...but I doubt it!

zoey said...

The kids are over their Cute baby stage. Dont get me wrong.. they are CUTE, but they are at that age thats not so cute.
i dont know why anyone would tune in at this point. its one things to oogle over a six pack of babies... and a complete other to watch a pack of wild untamed 6 year olds that STILL SIT IN HIGHCHAIRS!

Rachelle said...

Is anyone else bothered by the "your a boy Aaden, do it hard" or 'hit it like a man' (or whatever the exact quote was)
She doesn't know how to relate to boys. She acts surprised when her young daughter, Maddy, is upset that the kids get THREE birthday parties....like really? what kid wouldn't be 'what the heck mom?'
She is so clueless. She is so mean to the twins, I can't stomach it.

Professional Educator said...

Pardon the length, but it addresses a few things...

A few here have mentioned the kids and school - being held back or not. Although 3 tested ready, it would have created long-term problems amongst the 6 if three progressed and three didn't. And these kids have enough problems without fostering a further sense of resentment and superiority.

I know a few have mentioned bringing in tutors for the three who were behind and whilst that might help them academically, no tutor could make up for other areas, like social maturity for example.

Even with help after school, like a tutor, the children who are behind would still feel the effects in the classroom and with their peers. It can become a very stressful situation for a kid who is behind their sibling and is forced to meet the same standards as the more advanced one. It certainly doesn't provide the child who is behind to eventually to come in to their own. Although some of that is dependant upon the environment the parents create, even the most supportive and involved parent can't prevent a feeling of isolation or hopelessness in a child who is aware that they are behind their peers and the desperation they feel to constantly prove they are not.

Even a single child who is placed in school too early, when they aren't completely ready, and even with all the help and support, can still face significant struggle throughout their schooling. In those cases, in my professional opinion, I encourage parents to set their kids up for success from the beginning. You want your child to confident and comfortable and not struggle from the start and depending on the extent that child is behind, sometimes that means holding them back. It is far less damaging to a child to hold them back from the beginning then be forced to do it to them later. Some children, depending upon their specific delays can easily catch up with help from tutors or parents, but sometimes, like i've stated, no amount of parent involvement or tutors can make up for certain areas of deficiency that waiting a little won't help with and thereby set the child up for success from the beginning.

Holding children back a year to allow them a little more time developmentally doesn't really hurt a child all that much, in fact you will commonly find among the more wealthy their children graduate at the age of 19 rather than 18 as that year of difference allows their children a bit more time to prepare academically and therefore get into the desired school. It is actually becoming a more and more common trend among the middle class as well.

I question whether Kate would have made the judgement call on her own, it is likely the school advised her in the matter, particularly as it centered around 6 children. Of course, whether she chose to listen to them or not is her own decision and considering Kate's lack of involement as a parent it is unlikely she would have been willing to do the work to allow her children to thrive and succeed in the classroom. It certainly would have meant far too much time away from the cameras and filming whatever it was that she was up to now.

Considering it is Kate I question her reasoning behind holding the kids back, it may have been that they were all actually fairly fine for all we know, but holding them back made it easier for the purposes of the show, after all it's Kate and making money is the bottom line.

All just my opinion...

munchkin said...

I only watched during commercials of the MTV movie awards. My comments are based on about 5 minutes of watching. Right before a commercial it showed all the tups talking on the "couch" with Hannah on the floor with her mom's "scowl". i guess Hate has taught her something. And it was obvious she had tons of help. Walking thru the airport you could see it. And Poor Mady. Glad she tells it like it is ! You go Girl! You know she sees right thru her mom. Hopefully she has a better relationship with her dad.

Tank said...

I thought it was amusing that she was whining about having to get lunch for 8 kids by herself and having a meltdown, and in the background you see Steve and trainers serving food to the kids. They all seemed to be doing more than she was, and it appeared to me she just walked around and barked orders as usual.

Hey Kate, chill!! Mady and Cara are old enough to get their own food. At Discovery Cove everything is prepaid. You just walk through the buffet and get what you want and you don't have to stop and pay. What you do instead of melting down is let one little kid at a time walk through the line and pick a meal, and have Mady and Cara ( or Steve ) carry the tray for them to the table. Then do the next kid. Then let Mady and Cara get their food and you get yours. How hard is that? Why must you make everything a million times harder than it has to be?

My guess is Ms. Gosselin is so used to ( spoiled ) having things done for her, that it threw her for a loop when she realized lunch wasn't already sitting at the table for them and all they had to do was sit and eat. To me, she seemed a bit miffed that they had to serve themselves.

XYZed said...

I had no interest in watching Kate's new show, so I didn't. Quite honestly, I am sick to the teeth of the woman. Her one note dog and pony show has reached the point of boring repetition, and she has been over-exposed.

I suspect even her most zealous fans will eventually find tuning in to be a tedious chore. Hopefully the entire effort will just fade away.

PA G-ma said...

In re: Education of the Children

Education is not a priority in this family's fantasy life. Remember when the twins were the only ones going to school? In one early episode, Cara was trying to do her homework assignment in the morning and was told, either do your work or eat breakfast. Cara chose to do her work, did without breakfast and rushed out of the house to get on the school bus. I felt bad for her but I was mad that the "parents" had not checked or showed any interest the night before if the child had any homework to do. A total lack of parenting! To me, this was the beginning of the decline of the spirit of Cara that was becoming evident. This child seemed to be suffering with problems early on as she is not as vocal or outgoing as Mady.

Since Jamie and her children are "on premises", where are her kids being educated?

Terri said...

I call BS on Jamie being Kate's BFF. I'd bet the farm she's a paid helper, someone TLC hired to play the part of Kate's friend, after Kate managed to estrange everyone who truly did help out of the goodness of their hearts. Nothing about Kate suggests she's capable of sustaining a mutual friendship with anyone. She's a user, who believes everyone else was put on earth to serve her.

Bag lady said...

I couldn't help myself and watched last night. I didn't mind Kate so much before, but now, I'm really angry at her.

First of all, right before they leave on vacation, she tells the kids that someone that they LOVE is coming and the name starts with J. I could see the look of confusion on their faces. Seriously!!! Who do they love the most who's name starts with J?!! I thought that was almost cruel. Then when she told them it was "Jamie" they had no idea who she was talking about.

Second, my heart goes out to Mady. It's is SO evident to everyone except her own mother that she doesn't appreciate doing fake things for the camera. The tups had 3 birthday parties and the twins only had one?! Yes, as a child, I would be angry too. At least my anger wasn't caught on camera for the world to see.

And all Kate could say is, "I did my best." Yikes! What did she do? Decorate? no. Make the cake? no. Make the food? no. So, what part was her best?

Kate, please listen to Mady. She is the voice of what should be your inner conscious... your inner mother.

naynard said...

How would you like to go to school and hear the comments. This is cruel and crazy. How much money does it take to sell your kids and yes make inappropriate comments about their father? Is there anyone behind the scenes who knows the effect this is having? Is there anyway we can get Kates little moneymakers off tv?

N.E. Psychologist said...

PA Mom Knows - I am glad that it was not K8 or tlc that determined the children's educational level, however, I do blame the parents, K8in particular for not focusing on the teaching part of parenting.

@ Too Toxic For Me: "It is not a question of how bright any of the children are, instead all these children live in the middle of a war zone and sadly we are just beginning to see some of the effects."

Well stated.

Sobby McFibberpants said...

Momof5inFL said...
same ole crap, just different hair.
888888888888888888888888888888888888LOL!!! That is the perfect tagline for TLC's new summer. I did not watch the rehashed insanity of mom gone wrong. I decided instead to sleep last night without visions of a cackling opportunist attempting to dance in my head. I'm still trying to recover from Kate licking the camera on the DWTS finale.

Tribaleyes said...

Minka's Tail said..."The most pressing concern is Mady. This child has serious anger issues, and they seem to be getting worse...but this kid needs some help. She's getting worse as she gets older, not better."

I just watched the episode on YouTube, and I totally agree with you. She's always been my favorite, and it hurts to see a child in so much pain. I think she's right, in that she and Cara are treated as second-class baggage to the whole "'Tup Train". In general, I think she better understands the craziness and injustice inflicted upon herself and her siblings better than her parents do. It saddens me to see such a bright child ground down and allowed to turn into such a volatile mess; she desperately needs attention, nurturing, and guidance--heck, just to be listened to--and she isn't going to get it from her parents. Poor thing.

BennieGirl said...

Read this blog for a long time but this is my first time posting.

Ok, how can Kate claim to be down a helper when she obviously had Jamie? Also, it looks like Steve the bodyguard was there (you can see him when Kate is screaching at the driver of the boat in the swamp to back up and get away from the gator). It also seemed that there was another bodyguard there.

How many single parents travelling with 8 kids would have the help she does? A police officer sitting with her children while she takes the twins to get snacks for them? Staff and directors at the Cove there and helping without you even having to ask? A camera crew that follows you everywhere (and you can't tell me that they don't herd the children or wouldn't step in to prevent harm to the childen)?

I was really upset about Kate's talk with Mady during the everglade birthday party. Yes, Kate, it is true that the tups are a blessing (and it is a miracle that all of them survived and without any real health issues). That does not mean that they are any more precious than the twins. Celebrating a birthday once with each set of parents is acceptable, especially when the parents can't get along to do a joint party (which is pretty crappy IMO). having multiple parties with one parent for one set of children and not the other...unacceptable. Way to foster the sibling rivalry there Kate.

I love how Kate questioned when they would quit being the little kids and instead be just the kids. Answer: when Kate quits viewing them as cash cows.

wpa said...

I did not watch the first hour. Watched "Drop Dead Diva" with Paula Abdoul as guest star. Saw some of the second hour in between "the next Food Network Star" and MTV awards.

Yahoo TV has a short recap today of the first hour - the kids are playing with the TV crew and say they are glad they are back (when asked by the crew). Also, Kate has alot of large exercise equipment in the basement and is shown in a bathing suit. Is this about her or her kids?

The parts I saw in the second hour - Kate was in a limo with a man (Steve?) and wanted to take a nap instead of going to practice for "Dancing with the Stars". She told them to rearrange their schedule for hers. What a fake Diva! Another segment - she was signing books (wearing a low-cut top) and several young women buyers were interviewed - of course, they all love her!!

SuzieO said...

I don't think it matters much if the show is boycotted or not because it will not last, it is soooo bad!!

It was so forced and staged and none of the cute spontaneous children playing... all staged, and Kate commenting while in the chair was horrendous. She says "the little kids are 6 now... what does that mean? It means that I am old".. yes, that's all it means is how it affects YOU!... argh!! It was painful and believe me, I don't care how many fans she has, there can't be enough to make this show go on, it is just horrible.

I'm used to watching 19 kids and counting and while I know it's not fair to compare shows, I couldn't help but notice the lack of love and kindness anywhere in this show. There was not one scene where all the kids were happy and there was not one scene where there was any loving interaction anywhere.

If they would have just filmed the kids playing naturally it would have been so much better then each scene set up... where's the reality? Every scene was horrible and it is beyond me how anyone could enjoy it. I wanted to check in on the kids but could not stand to watch Kate's world even for a minute... no problem boycotting that! Her screeching and obvious controlling anger when the driver came too close to the alligator... ugh! Anyway, in closing I want to say again that there is no way this show will continue it was soooo bad.

Maelstrom said...

Kate is just not a pleasant person. She believes that she is a celebrity icon!!!

Her I'm--a-very-logical-and-organized-mom act is annoying as are her cackle and shrieks.

Long ago, I thought the show was charming... how J&K pulled together to enjoy the sweet but challenging moments of child-rearing.

Now the show is all about Kate. She can delegate tasks to nannies and "friends" like Jaime but she can't pass off Maddie. No longer can she order Jon to "deal with Maddie"!

Jilljanes said...

The production team is already working to paint Kate in a better light. My proof?

Kate made a point of saying that Mady was happy to see that there was a piñata reserved for "she and Cara."
As Mady cracked it open the pinata fell to the ground, Kate cackled in the background because the pinata is EMPTY!

Who gives the bulk of their children a ton of candy and sets two of them up-- the two who already feel left out-- to THINK they're getting a candy-filled pinata but instead gives them an EMPTY pinata?!?!

Those poor girls. :(

P.S. For the record, what I saw was NOT counted as a view. I did NOT watch it last night, but to protect the not-so-innocent from getting it pulled, I'm not going to say how I watched it. The important thing is that it wasn't on cable and it wasn't a TLC-approved or monitored source.

And it will be the last episode I ever catch. It breaks my heart and I just can't stomach it.

Claudia said...

I paused briefly when the tups were swatting at their pinatas. It looked sooo sad. No friends or family. Mady and Cara were so out of it. Kate talking to the camera crew. Great memories for the kids, Kate.

Bubbles said...

alana said...
Wait a minute... didn't the original "teaser" say Take was "down a helper" and that was why she might "crack under the pressure?"
Ooohhh, I so admire the slick way Hate, TLC-PR, et. al. can SPIN and TWIST reality (truth)!

6/04/2010 4:51 PM

Steve was there, and that big black dude body-guard was also there.

claire said...

Okay so I cannot watch on TV I don't have TLC.I did watch the episode on Youtube and..I don't know what to say.I mean I know there's a reason they showed footage of how "happy" the kids were when the cameras came back..It's Kate's way of saying:" See.my kids LOVE the cameras look how happy they are now that they are filming again!".It was mostly boring I guess..A bunch of kids visiting Discovery Cove..And than a b-day party(the third as Mady noticed) obviously for the show.Umm Maddy seemed more upset than ever that her sextuplets siblings get a lot of stuff and attention.Cara called Hannah a loser and was asked to live the table at one point.I didn't see the kids fighting hitting or cursing each other for once.Not so much crying...REALLY BORING now that I think about it!

Laurie said...

k....so "being back to normal" was a comment made because the dance floor was removed from downstairs and the children finally have their toys back. "Being down a helper", simply refers to Jaimie having to stay back at the room with Alexis because she was vomiting.....
definatly not a k8 fan but these were made to draw viewers in through editing

christine said...

I didn't watch either. But does anyone know though when the ratings will come out? I'm curious to see what they are.

emschick1128 said...

Does anyone know yet how the ratings were? I just read an article on the CNN website by Ken Tucker from EW entitled "I watched so you wouldn't have to" It was very flattering.

ToTheMoonAlice said...

Sounds like I didn't miss a darn thing...I haven't watched since last year, and I don't believe I ever will again, as I get the creeps every time THAT WOMAN opens her yap and more lies come flyin' out...I can barely stand to watch some of the links y'all put up here, but since I enjoy this site, I feel I need to see what everyone's talking about, so I watch. But lately I've found after the first couple of words out of her trap, I'm muttering imprecations under my breath...then it's "Oh, shut up, you big fat liar!" and off she goes into the ether. Anyone who can stand to watch these new shows obviously has a much higher threshhold for pain that I! Brave souls, thanks for taking one for the rest of us...We can keep up with the craziness without exposing ourselves to the toxic miasma that rolls of Kate like a fug.

Elspeth said...

I have to disagree with keeping all of the children together. Yes, it is tough on children to realize that a sibling does something better, but that is part of growing up and realizing that each child is different and different strengths and abilities. One child has to accept that everyone else is more athletic and other children have to accept that another one is more artistic. It is highly doubtful with the six that all will ever all be at the same academic level. To me it's punishing those who are ready to move on and they will grow to resent it. It seems apparent to me that those children are going to have to be separated sooner rather than later and waiting one or two years isn't worth it. The Hayes family has handled this much better where children progress through swimming and self-defense each at their own pace. Instead of treating sextuplets like a pack of monkeys, they are teaching them that they are individuals each of great worth and their own strengths and weaknesses and are each valued. Those kids seem to have the base for a much healthier life. They don't cry and screech over every little thing and also started school on track with their age. Amazing what can happen when parents actually parent instead of expect someone else to do it all.

KB said...

emschick1128, thanks for posting about that article, hilarious! Everyone should have a read. Here's the actual link:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/07/kate.plus.8.ew/index.html?hpt=C2

jibberjabbers said...

Jilljanes said...

The production team is already working to paint Kate in a better light. My proof?

Kate made a point of saying that Mady was happy to see that there was a piñata reserved for "she and Cara."
As Mady cracked it open the pinata fell to the ground, Kate cackled in the background because the pinata is EMPTY!

Who gives the bulk of their children a ton of candy and sets two of them up-- the two who already feel left out-- to THINK they're getting a candy-filled pinata but instead gives them an EMPTY pinata?!?!

Those poor girls. :(

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If true, this is really MESSED up. The twins already feel like 3rd class citizens in the Gosselin home. The tups celebrated their birthdays for the entire week. And Katie Irene does this to Mady and Cara?

What kind of mother does this? To tease her own kids this way. This is trying to be "funny" at the expense of hurting Mady and Cara.

GIMME GIMME said...

I wanted to watch and tried to watch but everytime I flipped over, it was Frock sitting on the couch running her mouth. I couldn't stomach it. I had to flip back and forth. I did catch the part about the pinata and thought that was particularly cruel, in that by that time the little ones had scarfed up all the other candy. Cruel especially in light of the fact that the twins feel passed over for the tups. Cary has changed most dramatically and I can't help but wonder why they don't get braces for her.

I also saw that Kate was parading around in practically a string bikini in the bird aviary, far from the water, and thought was horribly inappropriate especially since even on camera her stomach looks deformed and it must be worse in person. That was definitely a vain attempt to bring viewers in for her fabulous bikini bod. Disgusting - yuck. Just because you got a flat belly doesn't make it bikini material.

I decided that I would watch Kate's World but that was disgusting as well. Write Meredith off. Jim Moret bless his heart he wrote a book called "the Last Day of My Life," how inspirationsal that must have been. I can't imagine that book flew off the shelves either. He wouldn't turn down a gig, any gig if he had to. And that idiot from People - how in the heck did she get that job.

At any rate, I fell asleep before it was over, such obvious damage control. If I hear you either love her or hate her one more time...ok, I hate her. She is mean and cruel and a terrible mother and I don't see how anyone could stick up for her. She is also very, very lazy.

I won't be watching again under any circumstances. The kids are no longer cute. They are bratty and catty and show no love for one another, whatsoever. It is a sad, sad commentary.

Vanessa said...

How much of the show is acutal "reality" (ahem, NOT) and how much of it is her blabbering on and on while sitting on her butt? (didn't watch, won't watch)
Maybe someone can time her and see how much of the hour is devoted to her jaws moving.

N.E. Psychologist said...

@ Gimme Gimmee
Cara has changed most dramatically and I can't help but wonder why they don't get braces for her.
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They’ve been there, done that (orthodontist). The twins obviously don’t count except to make the numbers add up to 8.

@ Jibber Jabbers (referring to the empty piñata): “What kind of mother does this? To tease her own kids this way. This is trying to be "funny" at the expense of hurting Mady and Cara.
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I agree with your entire post. This woman is a freak of nature. The tlc nightmare notwithstanding, I am praying that the twins go and live with Jon full time. I mean really, the brainiacs at tlc can surely come up with a cute moniker for K8 plus 6 (she’ll NEVER let them go).

If I had watched this my tv would no longer be in one piece. I am so very angry.........

PA Grammy said...

Don't know if this has been posted yet, but this is a terrific, "spot-on" article about last night's performance(s)???

I didn't watch and after reading this, know I made the wise choice.

www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/07/kate.plus.8.ew/index.html

3birthdaystoomany said...

Someone needs to start a "Save Mady" campaign.

Seriously, that girl needs help. Kate is doing serious damage to her.

The sextuplets got 3 birthday parties...and the twins got one...no special cake, no fancy trip, no big deal.

I hope kate is socking away the dough....Mady will need YEARS of therapy to recover!

Maggie said...

Since unfortunately we have a new show, we have also started the viewing police again. You can say you watched the show, you didn't watch the show, but berating other people here is not okay.

I am not putting anymore comments through concerning this. Telling other people not to watch is not okay either. This has always been a site to discuss the show, so that is what we are doing.

Momof3 said...

"there is no way the tups who are speech and developmentally delayed because their mother kept them behind a year from preK and only let them go the next year 3 days a week"
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I live in Massachusetts where a child has to be 5 by August 31st in order to enter kindergarten. The kids were born in May or June(?not sure which one) which is somewhat close to the cut-off. I'm not sure if PA has the same requirement. Anyway, there is also a screening process in MA which will determine if a child is ready for kindergarten. If he/she isn't ready, the child needs to spend another year in pre-K. I know several parents who have kids who are born in May, June or July who were just not ready for kindergarten and they stayed back a year. As a result, the extra year gave the kids a boost and they are now thriving in elementary school. Bottom line is, the tups most likely were not ready-from an academic or social stand-point. If the tups did enter kindergarten and weren't ready, it would be impact their self-esteem to be struggling in a grade that they weren't ready for. I'm also sure that a few of the tups were ready and some weren't. I'm sure that J&K weren't going to send some of the tups on and keep some back-how awkward would that be? We also must remember that these kids were born 9 or 10 weeks early which can cause learning delays or learning disabilities.

Aunt Chris said...

Somewhere in one of these blogs someone mentioned that one of the boys (Aaden) asked if the birds were real, and implied that no six year old would not be able to tell. I think it actually was quite an astute observation by him. Afterall they had just visited not one, but TWO Disneys, where everything from Presidents to Tiki birds are automated. And he has to deal with his fake mother, while others (nannies) act like real live loving people.

Momof3 said...

Sorry but just to add to my last comment, but here in MA, pre-k programs are optional and part-time-usually 3 days per week (but 5day per week programs are available). The school may only have part-time programs that are 2 or 3 days per week. Not sure what it is in PA. If the some of the kids have learning disabilities, I certainly hope that J&K are having them addressed. Or maybe I'm being a little too positive about this family. Just for the record I want to make it clear that I can't stand J&K because it probably sounds like I'm a sheeple:).

Canadian Mom said...

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/07/kate.plus.8.ew/index.html?hpt=C2

Truly scathing...

SafetyTrain said...

I watched parts of the show last night. Gotta say - zzzzzzzz. Don't worry folks, its not gonna last. TLC and Kate really underestimated Jon's value to the show. Its nothing without him. I'm not a Jon fan - he's made some SERIOUS mistakes - but on the show he served as an all important buffer to Kate's craziness. There's nothing standing in between Kate and the camera anymore. Its just non-stop whine, cackle, and cuckoo now.

Elvira said...

3.4M for this episode and 3 for the Kate special.

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/06/07/kate-plus-8-ratings/

I don't know how they did it. Ten minutes into the birthday episode this afternoon and I'd rather be scrubbing toilets.

JAXMom said...

Perez Hilton is reporting that K+8 had great ratings... 3.4 million for the first hour, 3 million for the second. My guess is what the whole car wreck phenomenon. I will be truly shocked if her viewership doesn't decline to roughly 1 million Sheeple.

Angel1 said...

I didn't watch, but sitting here reading the comments, and I'm just stunned. That monster actually gave Mady and Cara an [i]empty[/i] pinata??? WTF? Was that some kind of a sick joke or what? Poor Mady and Cara...they're going to need lots of therapy later on in life.

Canadian Mom said...

Maggie (the mod) said...

Telling other people not to watch is not okay either. This has always been a site to discuss the show, so that is what we are doing.

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THANK YOU Maggie! I was growing weary of the debate and the declarations....

Canadian Mom said...

Elvira said...
3.4M for this episode and 3 for the Kate special.

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So does that finally confirm that the kids are the draw??

jibberjabbers said...

Elvira said...

3.4M for this episode and 3 for the Kate special.

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/06/07/kate-plus-8-ratings/

I don't know how they did it. Ten minutes into the birthday episode this afternoon and I'd rather be scrubbing toilets.

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Ratings include all people who tune in.. Doesn't matter if you watched for 1 minute or 10 minutes.

It's like when you visit a website. Every visit is counted. Whether you stay for 10 minutes to leave the very second the page loads.

Marisa said...

I don't understand why people say 3.4 million viewers are good ratings. From previous J&K seasons the ratings for the program where they announced their divorce was 9.6 million, and then it plummeted to 4.1. 3.4 is not even their worst rating before it was cancelled.
http://blog.zap2it.com/thedishrag/2009/08/jon-kate-plus-8-ratings-drop-61-r-u-surprised.html

LP said...

The ratings were only up because it was the first episode and many tuned in to see if she's changed. People will tune it out when they realize that it's the same old, same old. As someone else said, it doesn't matter if you tune in for the whole episode or for 10 minutes, it's still counted as viewing. I didn't watch.

fidosmommy said...

Ratings include all people who tune in.. Doesn't matter if you watched for 1 minute or 10 minutes.

It's like when you visit a website. Every visit is counted. Whether you stay for 10 minutes to leave the very second the page loads.

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So you are saying that if I am surfing channels, happen to click on TLC and keep going, that I am counted as a "viewer"? That is ludicrous. If that's the case, the TV ratings cannot be trusted at all. Sheesh, that would mean I am a "viewer" of Dr. Phil, Judge Judy, Wife Swap and Survivor. I watch none of them. I click them off as soon as I see that's what on. I can also be considered a
"viewer" of those horrendously horrendous infomercials because I
stumbled upon one at 3:10:48 a.m. and switched to CNN at 3:10:59.

That would make it impossible to trust ratings. Sorry.

Rose said...

"I give the tups a year more before they start acting out, too."
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Yep, that sounds about right. They will be seven by then. Remember the twins' seventh birthday? Mady storming in from school, kicking her party balloons, and complaining at the restaurant? Both girls whining and crying while opening presents because it was late at night and when Mommy wasn't yelling at Jon for misplacing their cards from relatives, she was hauling the TLC cameras in and forcing the kids to "perform" so they could put an episode together. Mady and Cara's behavior started changing considerably once they turned seven, and I'm sure the same will happen with the younger ones. It's called getting older and getting sick of the charade.

I agree that the newly branded "Kate Plus 8" will not last long. Kate can't honestly expect that after the ridiculously dramatic cancellation of the show back in November 2010, they can just pick it back up seven months later, and she can just go on being America's Favorite Mom. Someone needs to tell her that's not how it works. The mindless sheeple may be clearing their schedules to catch all the new episodes right now, but even they have to realize eventually that this is not a normal, healthy, or relatable family in any way. It's just disturbing and painful to watch. Let the tups celebrate the rest of their childhood birthdays peacefully without causing a spectacle and making it a week-long circus act for the cameras. Just give them some pizza, a cake, and attention from Mommy and Daddy that doesn't require the camera crew to film it, and I guarantee you they will look back on their birthday celebrations with happy memories of just being kids. Let Mady and Cara enter their pre-teen years with some dignity and privacy. Sign them up for the school activities they're looking forward to. Love them. Do what's best for them!

fidosmommy said...

Marisa said...
I don't understand why people say 3.4 million viewers are good ratings. From previous J&K seasons the ratings for the program where they announced their divorce was 9.6 million, and then it plummeted to 4.1. 3.4 is not even their worst rating before it was cancelled.

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Please remember that the show was not "cancelled". Jon took legal action to cease filming his children. "Cancelled" implies that TLC chose not to continue filming.

Mona said...

Re: Aaden (?) and the "real birds":

If the child ever got to play in a real back yard instead of a driveway, he might recognize birds when he saw them. I'm certain there are beautiful, colorful birds in Pennsylvania. Poor kid
has to look at black pavement instead.

K8STFU said...

This has been discussed to death but I want to add just one more comment :

Regarding the younger kids (see? I didn't say the T word)being ready for Kindergarten - it's an issue not because of state regulations. It's an issue because the kids are lagging , IMO, because they are constantly pulled out of school to film, their home life is complete chaos, and their grifter parents never spend quality time with them teaching them anything worthwhile. It would be impossible for ANY child to thrive in that type of environment.

I also firmly believe that the kids are in Junior-K not because they weren't ready for K but because TLC and K8 wanted them available for filming, hence the 3 day school week...................

Kateisanidiot said...

One of the dumbest things Kate said in this episode was about Mady being upset about the tups getting three parties. Kate said it was one of those high order multiple things. No, Kate it was because you wanted to film an episode after you refused to have a joint party with Jon.

She really needs to quit setting those kids up for sibling rivalry.

my9cats said...

When you take into consideration the population of the USA and how many TV's are around, 3.4-3 million is nothing. It's nothing more than a cult show and I will not watch. Reading the blogs is far more entertaining and informative and caring than anything on TLC.

Noper said...

Hey Bag lady...TOTAL AGREEMENT!

That is all. :0)

Amanda, Iowa said...

How does Kate do that??? Getting so much good stuff for free and still have the guts to b.tch and complain about things. Kate never looks happy. Even with all the help and service she is getting! She calls it low bloodsugar but my mom would have had my hide if I was ever that ungrateful! Even on my age now!
And her kids are starting to copy her. That behaviour off Mady/Cara on the airport while looking for food was dispicable! Whenever we travel with our 4 kids Ill make sandwiches before we go. Ill let them pick their chips and snacks and that is what we are having! Be grateful for what you have Kate, youll never know for howlong youll have it.

readerlady said...

I didn't watch. I read a book and then watched "Army Wives" - a scripted (fictional) show that, nevertheless, shows the reality of life for today's military, and is also supportive of our troops and their families. After reading the comments here, I just have a few thoughts.

It'll be interesting to find out in 10 years which birthday party the 6 remember. Will it be the 3 day extravaganza that was all about ME, ME, ME or will it be Daddy making cupcakes, giving gifts and chewing gum? My money is on Daddy and the low key but loving party.

Re Mady being jealous of the 3 parties given the 6. Have Mady and Cara ever had a blowout celebration of their birthday? They got to go to American Girl for their 6th birthday and out to dinner with their parents and younger siblings for their 7th, but has Khate ever gone all out for them? If she has, we've never seen it. Mady's had it reinforced for her since she was 3 years old that she doesn't matter. And Khate's stunt with the pinata for Mady and Cara is absolutely despicable.

Just My Few Canadian Cents said...

Have Mady and Cara ever had a blowout celebration of their birthday? They got to go to American Girl for their 6th birthday and out to dinner with their parents and younger siblings for their 7th, but has Khate ever gone all out for them?
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Kate only "goes all out" when TLC or someone else foots the bill. Poor Mady, if she and Cara can't boost ratings, then I suspect they won't be getting much.

The broadcaster on a local radio station this morning said last night's Kate-plus-8 show was "awkward, very awkward." And then the topic was changed.
So, perhaps the fascination with this family may be waning after all.

emschick1128 said...

There are several pictures on the Gossip Center site of Kate shopping at Target(of course) with Cara. As usual she looks ridiculous in a tight sleeveless shirt, black short, shorts and blacks heels. Who the hell except a hooker or a skank walks around wearing shorts and heels?? I don't think there's anything obviously wrong with being stylish but at least dress within a decade of your age and not like a slut all the time. If she was a hooker I don't think the men would be lining up anyway for her services.

Rose said...

"Poor Mady, if she and Cara can't boost ratings, then I suspect they won't be getting much."
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Just wait until they turn 13. That might be the birthday that Kate tries to milk for all it's worth - assuming that charade they call a show is still going three years from now. If Kate can make money and garner attention by exploiting her twin girls' transition into teenhood, then you can bet your last cent that she'll be on board. TLC will tell her that she can make a mint with an episode about the girls' periods and teenage meltdowns, and all of a sudden, Mady and Cara will be front and center...well, actually, Kate will be front and center, as always, but she'll suddenly have all kinds of attention to devote to them. Can you see it now? Chances are the show will have been dead for many years by then, but knowing Kate, she will push for a television special: "America's Favorite Mom Takes on the Teen Years With Six Growing 9-Year-Olds Trailing Closely Behind...What a Trouper!" I mean, after all, Kate is the only woman who ever had to go through any of this, so this would be an extra-special television event, right?

Tribaleyes said...

I am tired to death of hearing Kate act like she deserves a prize for parenting the children she CHOSE to birth "by herself."

Kate, darling, many parents--yes, PARENTS, meaning dads, too--manage to take their children on outings by themselves. Really by themselves; no nannies, helpers, brow-beaten spouses, new BFFs, whatever. Single parents--again, dads too--do this all the time. Every. Freakin'. Day.

Whine all you like, but you aren't getting a medal for parenting your own children because you don't deserve one. It's part of what you signed up for, and that contract is more air-tight--and has far greater consequences for failure--than anything TLC could create.

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Tribaleyes said...

Rose said...
"Poor Mady, if she and Cara can't boost ratings, then I suspect they won't be getting much."
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Just wait until they turn 13. That might be the birthday that Kate tries to milk for all it's worth - assuming that charade they call a show is still going three years from now. If Kate can make money and garner attention by exploiting her twin girls' transition into teenhood, then you can bet your last cent that she'll be on board. TLC will tell her that she can make a mint with an episode about the girls' periods and teenage meltdowns, and all of a sudden, Mady and Cara will be front and center...



AAAAHHHH!!! You're right, you're so horribly, horribly right!

You know, I've never written to a celebrity before--neither fan mail nor hate mail. However, God as my witness, if that woman does such a thing, I swear I'm writing Mady and Cara and supplying them with the names and numbers for shrinks in their area, as well as lawyers who can help them legally emancipate themselves from that crazy-train.

fake birds said...

You know when Adien asks if the birds are real? That reminds me of that youtube video of the little boy coming home from the dentist and he is a bit high from the operation. You know, when he says "is this real life"?
LOL those poor kids don't know what is real or not in anything they do. I bet they walk around all day going "okay is this real, or is this real?"

kate's an idiot said...

I watched bits and pieces during MTV movie awards' commercials. Sorry. But I do have a funny story to tell..

My ex came over to pick up the kids and sat and watched tv with me for a little bit. It was during the scene where Kate is walking around in her bikini and about to order lunch at discovery cove. As Kate prances around, he starts groaning under his breath. There is one shot where Kate us walking towards the camera and you see a 'full frontal' shot of her and her belly. She looks particularly unlovely. Out of the blue, the ex angrily yells, "Awwww, what the ffffuck is that?" I just about fell off the couch. The kids overheard and even they laughed.

He stayed long enough to hear Kate shriek and gush over how cute the dolphins were. He turned to me and said, "Oh, that voice..I'm losing the will to live. I need to leave. But I think we now know why she couldn't get pregnant. Jon must have preferred doing it with a cup than with THAT!" Oh, snark, snark. I had to give him a big hug for that one.

k8 ain't no saint said...

Kate made a point of saying that Mady was happy to see that there was a piñata reserved for "she and Cara."
As Mady cracked it open the pinata fell to the ground, Kate cackled in the background because the pinata is EMPTY!

Who gives the bulk of their children a ton of candy and sets two of them up-- the two who already feel left out-- to THINK they're getting a candy-filled pinata but instead gives them an EMPTY pinata?!?!


K8 did cackle, but the pinata wasn't empty to begin with. The twins whacked it several times and all the candy fell out. Then Cara hit it and broke the string and began beating on it again thinking there might be more candy in it. That's when K8 noted it was already empty and cackled. Cara didn't seem upset.

Just wait until they turn 13.

Karma will bite K8.

watchdog said...

"Her screeching and obvious controlling anger when the driver came too close to the alligator... ugh!"

Aldergator. Please.

go away gosselins said...

I didn't watch. I don't care for Kate; and feel so sorry for her 8.

julia said...

Ok there's a giant laundry list of things I detest about this woman and scenario - and sidenote: when did the "Mommy Barbie" look become *relateable*???? oh well.

The thing that drove me nuts about this episode was the throw-away comment "I try to keep the kids lives as papparazzi free as possible... as I always do".

REALLY, Kate? You've tried to sell us some pretty out there BS in your time in the light... but THIS? REALLY?

Then how about you stop thrusting them onto TV?!

Watching this show is evidently an abject lesson in hypocrisy.

maggie said...

Claire Said:
I didn't see the kids fighting hitting or cursing each other for once
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During the orange juice contest, one of the little girls takes a hard--yes hard--swing at the other little girl. Then the receiving one repays her sister with another hit.

When Kate was talking to Mady about the tups getting so many birthday celebrations, didn't Kate say something to the effect that they were pre-mature and so technically it was still their birhday????? WTF. Did I hear this right? Maddy even countered with that Care and she were premature too.

I think it is terrible that Kate allows Mady to be filmed like that--acting out repeatly. That ALONE is reason the family should not be filmed. Mady is too young to realize that her actions are going to be documented for the rest of her life for the entire world to view. That to me is sinful for a mother not to protect her child.

Can't See Sheep said...

my9cats said...

When you take into consideration the population of the USA and how many TV's are around, 3.4-3 million is nothing.
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Does anyone know if this is the number of American viewers or the total number of viewers, Canadian & US? I know Canada has nowhere near the population of the US, but if that's the total for TWO countries then it seems small.


Kateisanidiot said...

One of the dumbest things Kate said in this episode was about Mady being upset about the tups getting three parties. Kate said it was one of those high order multiple things. No, Kate it was because you wanted to film an episode after you refused to have a joint party with Jon.

She really needs to quit setting those kids up for sibling rivalry.
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I agree. She's going to set the kids against each other so that they won't gang up on her because they'll be to busy quarrelling to notice the nastiness kate gets up to. That & narcissists really seem to love it when people fight over them.

GIMME GIMME said...

I think Aaden was just trying to play to the cameras when he said that. He seems to be savvy when it comes to sound bites and being cute for the camera. I think they were coached to be cute and make some nice sound bites for the "show." They know all about how to make good TV. That doesn't just happen. I think he wanted a sound bite as he so desperately tries to pleas his mom. I am thinking they know what that means and they are competitive amongst themselves as to who ge4s more air time, a lead in, etc. They watch the shows over and over again and are highly trained on how to make good "reality" TV.

JFS in IL said...

When will Table for Twelve be back? I miss the nice, caring, nanny-less parents! The Anti-Gosselins!!

Nikki said...

I have never...in my life....seen a grown woman receive NUMEROUS gifts and free services, free vacations, free assistance...

and STILL whine and complain about how difficult her life is.

It boggles the mind. Truly.

I'd like to see her actually go to Discovery Cove and pay for the WHOLE trip herself, pay for the hotel herself, pay for all the food herself, watch all of her childen herself, feed all of her children herself, travel with all of her children herself, handle illnesses herself, plan AND prepare a birthday party herself,

and not have one single lick of help from anybody.

She could never do that. Ever.

She would crumble and meltdown within 2 minutes. Hell, she crumbles and meltdown now and she HAS tons of help and everything paid for !!!!

Why people look up to this woman and call her a supermom is disturbing, mind boggling, bizarre, and twisted.

Kitty The Dog's Blog said...

PA Mom said

SHE did not keep them behind a year from Pre-K. The kids were in a pre-school program last year, and when they were tested for Kindergarten at their current school, they weren't on track with other candidates for that class. She could have yelled and screamed her head off that they should be in Kindergarten, and it wouldn't have mattered. The school places students in the acdemic programs that are the best match for them, and for the appropriate number of days.

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Thanks PA mom, you always have the 411. Thats the way it works here in Texas too. We all know if she had worked with them and read to them, they wouldn't be "behind". I know they were born prematurely, etc., but my daughter was born early too, weighing in at less than the smallest tup. She has always been up to par, in fact, she's 14 and this summer is taking college classes (statistics, biology and algebra). If my daughter can be at this advanced level, having had numerous problems including eye surgery, heart surgery, 3 hernias, and Celiac disease, which severely affected her growth, (I dont think the tups have had any problems) the tups can surely be at least on track with their peers. Kate is just so lazy.

Im there now said...

k8 ain't no saint said...


Just wait until they turn 13.

Karma will bite K8.

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Aint' that the truth. I have a 13 year old daughter. She was always strong willed. Always. She was not quite as temperamental as Mady but very stubborn. Her father was away for two years and came back into our lives a year ago with his new wife who is a controlling passive agressive narcissist. They constantly bash me in her presence and refuse to let her do her activities on her time (including track and soccer). My daughter has gotten steadily more angry and rebellious as time as gone on. She's a good kid with good grades but right now she's an emotional mess. Only thing is guess who she takes it out on...the one who has always been there for her. Mady seems to have no trouble talking back to her mother which my daughter never did in the past so since she has noone who has always been there for her, I think Kate will be the object of the rage that is a mistreated hormone-ridden strong-willed child. No doubt.

That's nothing said...

Elvira said...
3.4M for this episode and 3 for the Kate special.

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/06/07/kate-plus-8-ratings/

I don't know how they did it.
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Not to fret. I think a lot of people tuned in due to the curiosity factor but it was so boring and irritating only die hard klovers will tune in for very long.
See the numbers from 2009:

June 23, 2009

Monday night’s highly promoted episode of “Jon & Kate Plus 8,” in which the embattled couple announced their separation (and later divorce), lifted the show’s sinking ratings. The episode drew an impressive 10.6 million viewers...May’s premiere episode drew nearly 10 million viewers but has since plunged to as low as 2.9 million viewers -- still a strong showing when compared to its previous four seasons.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2009/06/jon-kate-plus-8-divorce-episode-draws-record-ratings.html

Or this:

'Jon & Kate Plus 8' ratings plummet. Whose fault is it? Hmmm.
By Elizabeth Snead
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August 5, 2009

"Last night's first half hour with Kate Gosselin and the kids vacationing and Jon Gosselin supervising kitchen renovations (wow -- exciting stuff) drew only 3.9 million viewers. The following episode, with Kate camping with the kids without Jon, was watched by 4.1 million.

Both episodes were also down significantly from the May 25 premiere, which brought in 9.8 million viewers."

So 3.4 million for the first episode after a year's hiatus with all the hype is nothing. And it's just going to go down from there. IMO

N.E. Psychologist said...

@ 3birthdaystoomany:
Someone needs to start a "Save Mady" campaign.
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Cara should be added to the same campaign. She's quiet but it doesn't mean she's not feeling the exclusion too.

WallyWinnie said...

Well take notice as to how FEW comments are written in this forum as compared to a year ago.

That should answer the questions about Kates new show and her "ratings".

People only tuned in to see what it was going to be all about. They will all fade slowly and surely.....there would have been over 500 comments by now on a show with Jon involved.

Can't See Sheep said...

@N.E. Psychologist, I agree, both need saving. Mady has no problem expressing herself, we don't see Cara doing that. It could be editing, it could be a number of things, but when kids go quiet or seem shy it's a good idea to keep an eye on them.

BeDoneNow said...

There is no shame in this woman. 2 years from now we will have "Cara Gosselin's First Period - A Very Special Episode." "Super Mom Kate sends a team of not-nannies to Target to purchase maxi-pads for her daughter. Will Mady have a meltdown that she only gets pimple cream and not maxi pads? How does Kate manage her 8 all by herself? Watch as Kate gives an inside look into one of her shoe closets as she tries to cope."

"A special 2 hour episode:Inside Kate's Hormonal Home, brought to you by Kotex and Juicy Juice."

What I really want to know is, what is the attraction? WHY are they '8 little money makers'? Why are people watching this stuff?

I took 8 kids to SeaWorld ALL BY MYSELF every summer for years. And paid for the priviledge. We packed PB&J and ate in the parkinglot. Where's my cash?

Evening admission was 1/2 price so for several summers grandmas and aunts took turns watching the other kids one evening every week. I would take ONE CHILD, we would pack our supper, see a SeaWorld show and then the evening Sea World fireworks. It was called 'private time' we did it on a dime. My eldest is 35 now and the kids still talk about 'private time'.

Kartzilla on a Cherry Picker said...

To "That's Nothing." I absolutely agree with your comment. 3.4 million is rather low for a season premiere especially for a show that was hyped up and on hiatus for a year and EVEN promoted on DWTS which draws about 20 million average viewers.

Look at last week's cable ratings (these are ratings for the previous week that didn't include the Kate show).

http://www.zap2it.com/tv/ratings/zap-nielsen-cable,0,7538199,results.formprofile?SortBy=cdb_01_num+%2Ccdb_05_txt+&PageSize=50&Page=1&Query=*

Spongebob Squarepants and WWE Raw drew in bigger numbers!! A yellow sponge and a wrestler can draw a bigger audience than a screeching peroxide blonde.

I would be surprised if Kate plus 8even makes the Top 20 list for this week. If anything, they'll be in the bottom.

So from this point, the show will go downhill.

Tami said...

Kate made a point of saying that Mady was happy to see that there was a piñata reserved for "she and Cara."
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Gotta love the Gosselin grammar. It's sort of like how Jon always used to refer to himself as myself instead of me in sentences.

Canadian Mom said...

Folks, I have been harbouring a secret...I speak dolphin...

Here's what the dolphin REALLY said while being mauled X 8...

"Haven't ANY of you seen 'The Cove'?? Save me!!"

That's nothing said...

Kartzilla on a Cherry Picker said...

To "That's Nothing." I absolutely agree with your comment. 3.4 million is rather low for a season premiere especially for a show that was hyped up and on hiatus for a year and EVEN promoted on DWTS which draws about 20 million average viewers.

Look at last week's cable ratings (these are ratings for the previous week that didn't include the Kate show).

http://www.zap2it.com/tv/ratings/zap-nielsen-cable,0,7538199,results.formprofile?SortBy=cdb_01_num+%2Ccdb_05_txt+&PageSize=50&Page=1&Query=*

Spongebob Squarepants and WWE Raw drew in bigger numbers!! A yellow sponge and a wrestler can draw a bigger audience than a screeching peroxide blonde.

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I love Spongebob!!

jibberjabbers said...

3.4 million is not "nothing".... It's a rating's success....

per TVbytheNumber.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/06/08/love-to-hate-kate-kate-gosselin-still-ratings-gold-for-tlc/53460
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TLC is GLOATING about it...

Via TLC:

TLC SUMMER BURNS UP THE RATINGS

Premieres Attract 1.2M Plus Total Viewers Led by Kate Plus 8 (3.4M)
TLC’s summer of premieres, dubbed TLC Summer, kicked off on May 27, with a dynamic line-up of new and returning series, each garnering 1.2M total viewers or more.

Kate Plus 8: 6th Birthday Surprise drew 3.4M P2+, followed by Kate Plus 8: Inside Kate’s World(3M), Cake Boss (2.4M), The Little Couple(1.5M), Mall Cops: Mall of America(1.5M), Police Women of Memphis (1.3M) and Toddlers & Tiaras(1.2M).

Premieres airing from 5/27-6/6 have posted double-digit delivery gains vs. the respective time slot premiere average in all key demos.

The return of Kate on Sun, resonated with viewers. Kate Plus 8: 6th Birthday Surprise(9 p.m.) delivered 3.4M P2+, posting triple-digit gains vs. TLC’s 2Q10 to-date time period average in all demos, and ranked #1 among all ad-supported cable (excluding award shows) in P/W 18-49 and 18-34. Kate Plus 8: Inside Kate’s Worlds (10 p.m.) garnered 3M P2+, also posting triple-digit gains vs. TLC’s 2Q10 to-date time period average in all key demos. Both premieres posted double-digit delivery gains vs. the Nov 09 Jon & Kate Plus 8 premieres.

In addition, Kate Plus 8 specials catapulted TLC to rank #4 among broadcast and ad supported cable in W18-34, beating NBC, CBS and CW.

Rose said...

"I think it is terrible that Kate allows Mady to be filmed like that--acting out repeatly. That ALONE is reason the family should not be filmed. Mady is too young to realize that her actions are going to be documented for the rest of her life for the entire world to view. That to me is sinful for a mother not to protect her child."
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Couldn't have said it better myself. It is a mother's job to protect her child, and I don't see Kate doing that with any of her kids. What is the purpose of filming Mady's tantrums and meltdowns for the whole world to see? To teach the nice viewers that Kate is just like us, and that her kids act out just like everyone else's? Nope, I'm not buying it, because yes, EVERY CHILD has difficult moments, but not every child has to deal with the public awareness and scrutiny that is the Gosselin children's reality.

What Kate needs to do when Mady acts out during filming is say to the camera people, "You know what? I don't want you to film that." No explanation necessary - she's the mother, and if she's not going to protect her babies, then who is? But no, Kate WANTS those moments to be captured and televised, because in her sick mind, it's raw and honest and portrays her as the ultimate "everymom" who is such a good sport for handling that big brood all by herself (which is a lie in and of itself). Unless her kids' needs happen to match up with her wants, then it's not gonna matter much to her. She's certainly proven that.

jibberjabbers said...

"I think it is terrible that Kate allows Mady to be filmed like that--acting out repeatly. That ALONE is reason the family should not be filmed.

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TLC loves DRAMA. Since Jon is gone. Kate cannot yell and belittle Jon. So, Kate is going to do it to Mady.

1 on the many reasons I refuse to watch.

kate's an idiot said...

It felt wrong and invasive watching Mady's tantrum about the 3rd party for the sextuplets. While she had a legitimate beef, the way she expressed herself made her look like an angry, bitter, and yes, bratty, mess. But I was so sympathetic to her and it pained me to listen to all that raw emotion coming out on camera.

Kate should have;
1. Made them turn off the cameras or taken Mady far away to talk..to protect the kid's privacy and to keep the embarrassing behavior off camera
2. Acknowledged her pain/anger and let her know that her feelings were legitimate
3. Hugged her, apologized, reassured her she'd try to be
more sensitive to the perceived favoritism in the future

It's basic stuff. Parenting 101. Instead, Kate let this discussion proceed on camera, exposed her daughter's pain to the public, and argued with her as to why she shouldn't feel the way she did. This served only to anger Mady and prolong the tantrum. Why would Kate do this? Did she use Mady's pain as a platform to show off her 'mothering skills' in that narcissist's pea brain of hers? Because it failed. Kate looked like a clueless, unconcerned mom and poor Mady's deepest feelings were broadcast to the world. We shouldn't know this. It's awful Kate didn't use her forcefulness to protect her child. Now the poor kid is set up for criticism and ridicule by the public and by her own friends and classmates. What a awful mother Kate is. She should be investigated.

squattmunki24 said...

Poor Mady, she says "You only celebrated our birthday 1 day...nobody cares about me, I'll just DIE..." THEN to justify the tups having another party Khate starts talking about their premature birth, which further upsets Mady.

She knows all the family attention, money, and fame come from the tups & that she and Cara are 2nd class citizens in the family. This kid needs some love, support and help. I don't blame Mady for the way she behaves, she is not a "brat."

Mady is the product of bad parenting. Cara worries me too she has a flat affect most of the time, no emotion. Which might be worse than Mady who expresses herself.

The Kate Show said...

I saw the episode on YouTube, and OMG the way Kate acted towards not only the twins but also the sextuplets at times, really got to me.

Every time she asked something of the sextuplets, it was "now" or "right now". Was that really necessary?

It was also tiresome listening to her repeating herself when ordering Cara to leave the juice-squeezing. Kate punished Cara for a comment SHE made herself a minute earlier!

Cara wasn't meaning to be mean, it was all part of the GAME they were playing. It's NORMAL for kids to do that. Just like the sibling rivalry between the younger kids, who saw it as a competition.

Kate also needs to talk to the kids in a more age-appropriate manner. "We don't hit" is better than "Unacceptable".

I can't believe Kate's excuse for the sextuplets being entitled to extra parties just because they're born early. Kate was being totally unreasonable and unfair towards the twins.

The talk with Mady should NOT have been aired. And there was no need for the "COME NOW" cr*p to lead her away from the table - why did it matter to her if the other kids overheard? It was FILMED for the WORLD to hear!

Treat The Kids Equally said...

IMO, after seeing this episode (on YouTube) I think Mady and Cara would have been better off not going on that trip. They would have been better off staying at their friend's house for the week (as some kids do when their parents are away)and Kate could have paid for them to do some fun things - seeing a movie, going to the mall, whatever nine-year-old girls like to do.

That way they'd get a break from Kate and the younger kids, and actually have FUN.

readerlady said...

I'm concerned about Mady, too. Many pre-teen girls are overly dramatic, but most of them don't go around saying "I want to die". I hope that someone who's in a position to do something about it (her teacher, school counselor, JON) saw and heard that and will take action. Khate's treatment of Mady has always bothered me. She not only doesn't deal with her outbursts appropriately, she actually sets Mady up and deliberately provokes some of them. How many times did we see it on the old show? She knew it bothered Mady to be compared to Cara, and for Khate to laud Cara as "the first born" but Khate continued to do it. Most mothers, real mothers, would go out of their way to avoid comparing their kids and trying to upset them. I've always thought that Mady looks more like Jon than the other kids do, and I wonder if that isn't behind some of Khate's behavior toward her.

Ohio Buckeye said...

@JibberJabbers: good point. K8G needs a target for all that anger, and, since Jon has escaped, it is Mady who has been slid, like a chess piece, into Jon's former space.

It has always seemed to me that Mady's personality is most like K8 (though K8 denies and distances herself from this reality and claims, instead, she, as a child, was more like the calm and loving Cara).

How painful it must be for Mady to be most like her mom and yet obviously the least favorite. Those least like their mom (the clingy Hannah, for example) get what there is of their mom's 'love' (attention). It must be very confusing to a child like Mady to emulate her mom's behavior and yet suffer such disdain and rejection from the person she's emulating.

Mady is a child - I do not blame her for her behavioral tendencies. I do, though, hold K8G accountable for being blind to Mady's plight due to K8G's own absolute narcissism. I'm guessing K8G was not the favored child either - it's tragic she's unable to use that experience to empathize with Mady. K8G is unteachable (and not just in dance!).

The pathology cycle continues.

Poor Mady.

Vanessa said...

@kate'sanidiot,
Yes, kate should have asked the crew to turn off the cameras, BUT when TLC owns you and your family, you have no say in what they do and do not film. (not that kate would even THINK of not letting them film her "problem" child)

GIMME GIMME said...

Maybe that was a cry for help from Mady. All of those kids are very much aware of the cameras - how can they not, they are inches from their face along with a sound boom dangling over their heads and 3 grown men hovering about. Her mom won't listen to her cries and I think she wanted to let the world know there was trouble in paradise. Mady is by the far the brightest of all the children and treated the most poorly. Jon should step in and take the twins out of that situation. If a child said that at the school where my child goes they would be Baker-acted.

GIMME GIMME said...

I think those who are trying to say the ratings are good should limit that to - 3.4 million is good for TLC. A network would that drop that like a hot potato and kick it to the curb. They are making a valiant effort to go big on the backs of those poor,
pitiful kids just like their mom.

You know they expected more. They bill her as a ratings bonanza. Now the truth comes out. She draws roughly 3 million on her premier special.

And Kate's world - I fell asleep watching that one. It should have been called "Kate Damage Control (We Do This Every Day)," because that is what it was.

If that was any indicator for Twisted Kate - good luck with that.

CrazyKate said...

If the new episode is any indication of what is to come, I sincerely pray for these kids, as they are being "handled" periodically by the most selfish self-absorbed person known to mankind. And she is exposing to the world how horrible she is doing as a parent, while using her kids to claim she is a great mother. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence can see she is NOT a supermom, and even her efforts at pretending to be a supermom are a joke. Honestly, at this juncture, any decent mother would remove their children from filming, as these kids have had way too much to deal with, with the divorce, constant filming, and embarassment of their actions being filmed for ridicule by their classmates. Any other decent concerned mother would stop the filming immediately for the sake of her kids.

Sorry for the long rant, but this woman needs to make her own living and leave her children out of it. Period.

CrazyKate said...

Just watched Part 5 of the 6th Birthday Celebration on you Tube, and I must say that it is obvious that Kate has no rights to edit out any filming she does not like.

Mady was calling her mother out on her favoritism every step of the way. First, 3 birthday celebrations for the tups, and not the twins, second after Kate explained the tups were preemies, Mady noted she and Cara were preemies as well, and during the orange squeezing contest, Mady made a remark about Hannah copying Cara and her by squeezing the oranges by hand, and called Hannah a loser for copying them, after Kate said "Cheaters never win, and losers never cheat." The twins pretty much stayed away from the bithday celebration as much as possible. The saddest part was when Mady said, "Nobody cares about me, I don't want any water, I just want to die." The fact that this was left in the final cuts is telling, and Kate's explanation was weak at best. But most importantly, Mady's personal justified grievances are out there for the whole world to see. Nice job Kate. No wonder why Mady is angry, and Cara is completely withdrawn, with occassional outbursts. It is no wonder. Never mind you are never there for them, as you leave babysitters to take care of them while you pursue fame. Obviously, you are not addressing issues the twins are having, and the footage of this showed this problem clearly. AND THIS IS THE STUFF WE GET TO SEE. It was almost as if TLC is now using Mady to be new person you have conflicts with. Way to go Kate, Mady can now take Jon's place, a 9 year old is left to fend for herself and be humiliated because you are a greedy witch.

The other disturbing factor is that there is obviously a pecking order of Kate's favorites:
1) Sextuplets are favorites as they are money makers.
2) Girls are treated much better than boys. The boys rarely say anything, look sad and lost most of the time, as the girls speak out and often over them, constantly correcting the boys. Where did they learn this behavior from?
3) If you are a girl sextuplet, you rule, as the three girl tuplets seem very comfortable speaking and correcting the boys when they dare to speak, which is not often. Way to go Kate. You have made Hannah, Alexis and Leah the center of attention, at the expense of 5 other children. In your own twisted world, 3 out of 8 isn't bad.

Khate also constantly complained she did not have help when clearly she had Jamie, Steve, and other TLC staff on board, as well as the Staff at Discovery Cove. Kate, you are supposed to be a parent, which is your claim to fame, yet you never ever seem to be able to handle the challenge, although you portray yourself as a super mom. You are not even close to being a super mom, you delegate every task to anyone availabe, even when you are present, which is not so much. You speak lovingly into the camera, but your kids even know this is an act, if you look at their reactions to your screaching approval. Even the 6 year olds know you are a fake and phony. Right now, Mady is the only one pointing this out, under the penalty of severeness.

Robin said...

Regarding the Gosselin children and schooling:

The facts that they didn't go to preschool until age 4, and went to "junior kindergarten" last year and won't start regular kindergarten until age 6, is not the problem. They have been in full-day school for 3 days a week this year, when they were 5 and just turned 6 at the end of the school year. This is PLENTY of school for their age - it is more time in school than children who are in half-day kindergarten - 3 hours a day, 5 days a week - spend, and is entirely appropriate for their age and development. If anything, I would argue that they were in school and on the bus FAR too much for children their age - the 3 days they went to school were very long and my heart just went out to them because of that. "More and earlier" school is not necessarily better, and in many cases it's actually worse.

If TLC insisted on only 3 days a week of school so they could firm the other 2, that's horrible because it made their jobs the basis for decision-making in the house instead of their education and well-being. However, they were not harmed academically by "only" going to school three full days a week at age 5. There will be plenty of time for them to go to school full-time, 5 days a week - the next 13 years, to be exact.

If any of the sextuplet's MINOR delays have been caused by not enough academic enrichment, they will catch up to their peers while they're in elementary school - the damage won't be permanent or even long-term. Those who aren't speaking clearly will eventually; those who need speech intervention will receive it (although I don't personally feel that any of them do.)

This is not to say that I feel that the Gosselin children have an ideal life when it comes to development, academics, etc. - I think it's quite the opposite. However, the problems they have are caused by not enough time spent with caring parents, playing games, being read to, playing with playdoh, coloring, gluing, cutting, playing with other children, going to the park, going to the library, just being normal children - and far too much time "creating memories" on expensive vacations and being followed around with a camera.

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https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=1wRN-egNvvk3KWt8RTBlTpyOlD2mrG3sdwvIfZWIKum4&hl=en

I tried to post it the other day when the blog was down.

a real single mom said...

Here's two good recaps of the episodes, GWOP-sytle. Also talks about Maddie's "I want to die" statment.

http://gosselindivorce.blogspot.com/

lovetoread62 said...

I watched the first two clips of the show on You Tube. I couldn't take any more than that. I noticed a few things. First, the look on Maddy's face when the camera crew arrived at the house: it was a look of abject misery. The tups were excited, but Maddy looked crushed. Second, Kate saying that Jamie loves her kids as much as she Kate does. What??! Third, why didn't Jamie bring her kids on the trip? What kind of mother leaves her own kids behind to take someone else's kids on a fancy vacation?? Fourth, the snarky comment Kate made about Jon's birthday celebration with the tups. "I guess they had a good time" I lost all interest watching them hanging out at the airport. That was really exciting (not). Plus Kate was complaining about a list of behaviors that she didn't want to see to one of the girls, who looked up and said, "What are you talking about?" since at that time, all of the kids were behaving very well. I think Kate was disappointed that she couldn't yell at anyone! I can't stomach watching a rich, entitled family take another fancy and free vacation, while a horrible recession is going on and so many people are out of work or scared about being out of work.

Joanne said...

"Kate also needs to talk to the kids in a more age-appropriate manner. "We don't hit" is better than "Unacceptable".
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This is rich considering she hit and slapped Jon ALL the time!
I didnt watch this crap of course, but going by what is said here...

IBM62 said...

Second, Kate saying that Jamie loves her kids as much as she Kate does.
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I agree that this is totally wrong! Jamie, much like Beth and Aunt Jody, probably loves and cares about the kids WAY more than Kate herself does!

go away gosselins said...

Ummmmm, where are Mady's braces? I saw a clip of her talking on the couch, and there were no braces...or maybe I just couldn't see them?

scooby doo said...

I read somewhere that Mady only had to wear them for 8 or 9 mths... I don't watch the show at all....A. BORING and B. My life is more interesting.

GIMME GIMME said...

The only person that could possibly love a person's kids as much a mother would be their grandparents. There is no way a "friend" should or could love a person's kids as much as their mother. Especially one of Frock's friends as they are subject to being banned at any time and are most likely highly aware of that.

Scarlett O'Hara said...

Finally watched on it on TIVO. Kart looks like a $5 hooker. Poor Mady is still miserable. Hannah is still the favorite, sitting next to Kart on the plane. I think the new name of the show should be "Same Train Wreck Minus Jon"

NumberedDays said...

The kids seem to be detached from Steve "the Needle" Nield.

They love the tv crew and romp all over the guys but not Steve. I guess his shoulder is reserved for Kate to cry on.

Vanessa said...

Just a question for any moms out there who have had a preemie. Do any of you celebrate more than ONE "BIRTH"day for your child? Just curious. Is there a party on the date the child was SUPPOSED to be born and then on the ACTUAL date?
I had an overdue baby, I guess I should have thrown a party for the original due date too.
Was this answer just to quiet Mady up?

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