Jon Files for Custody and Support Review

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MallytheHun said...

Say WHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT.

but seriously, this whole Gosselin BS has got to stop. I fear that the average American exposed to all this will eventually want to start burning magazines, chucking computers out of windows, breaking their TV screens, just to get away from both of these attention mongerers.

/rant

Maggie said...

TMZ.com has the court documents up.

Laine said...

The court documents are interesting. This seems to be a more professional document than those filed during the divorce by Jon's lawyer. I am glad to see they want both parents to attend a parenting class, separately.

It sounds like Kate got her gold platter in the divorce decree, but has not lived up to the agreement and/or abused the rights she was given. IF Jon has documentation to prove these allegations as well as being able to show adverse effects on the children, he might be able to get the modifications.

Aunt Meril said...

Jen K said...
1. Jon is supposed to be able to stay in the guest house even when Kate is staying at the main house. It would appear she is not allowing that. (Count one, item 10)
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We all guessed this. But it explains why THIS house was choosen.

AND++++++


Jen said
4. This is the doozy: Kate's payments from TLC are contingent upon Jon not working for anyone else other than TLC while under contract!
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Hats off to the people at TLC for such a novel idea.
Its up to Kate to make Jon "stay and sit" in order for her to get paid!!


However,TLC is really sc*ewing these two fools. Jon, Kate DROP TLC and save your family.

lonnie said...

Good for him

LP said...

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....let's just hope that Jon doesn't "drop" this with Kate's offer to reduce his monthly child support payments. Just maybe Jon hit rock bottom and has come to his senses and realizes that the kids should be his priority. ROL says they have proof that he was away from the kids for weeks.....maybe he was away for that length of time because kate wouldn't let him see the kids. This should be interesting if it's not just another PR stunt. I don't know anything about this new lawyer, but judging by his filing he seems to be much more competitent. The sheeple are having a fit over on ROL.

anotherthing... said...

Holy smokes. 'Bout dang time, Jon.

Seems like someone told him to keep his head down for a bit then strike. Finally, some decent advice.

What I read on MSN Entertainment News:

"READING, Pa. (AP) -- Jon Gosselin has sued ex-wife Kate for primary custody of their eight children.

The former reality TV star also asked the Berks County Court on Wednesday to review his child support obligation.

Gosselin's attorney, Anthony List, has previously accused Kate Gosselin of neglecting the children because she appears on ABC's "Dancing with the Stars," a charge her attorney rejected as "patently false."

In court papers, Jon Gosselin says his ex-wife "abuses" her authority when it comes to scheduling visits with the kids. He also claims an arbitrator failed to require Kate to provide documentation of the children's expenses"

I hope he doesnt eff this up. Those kids need out.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"The sheeple are having a fit over on ROL."

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The sheeple ALWAYS have a fit. It's the only life they know.

SoCalER-RN said...

Anyone know when the Gosselin contract with TLC is over? I get up early in the AM and had noticed that TLC was running re-runs of their show. But lately... nothing! Maybe since the beginning of the month?!
Maybe that is why Jon has decided to take Kate back to court. Or would it even matter where TLC is concerned? (contractually,that is)
Don't know much about it. Does anyone have any thoughts?

anotherthing... said...

Ok. Seriously.

Do you guys think this effort will be the one that cracks this piece of crap nightmare wide open?

Will this be the thing that shows what a witch Kart really is?

Will it show the tragic, yet AUTHENTIC reality of the kids life?

Or will TLC/PR teams/Karts legion of flying monkies swoop in and gloss it over again?

Something has to give. IS this the catalyst? Or am I hoping for too much again?

gosselin free said...

Jon's complaint says:

The Arbitrator set forth that the aforementioned custody schedule shall be set solely at the discretion of Defendant, and her mandates with regard to custody are provided to

Plaintiff on a weekly basis.

12. The Defendant abuses the discretionary authority regarding custody scheduling as provided for by the Arbitration.

Why in the world would he trust that she would be fair, in her allowing him to see the kids? See, SHE determines when he can see the kids....and she wants him to look as bad as possible, so she punishes him, but not allowing him to see them, then complains on tv that he doesn't come to see them...

But, the lawyer screwed up in his paperwork...oh why can't this man get a good lawyer?! At the bottom, List said he was the attorney for the "defendent" not the Plaintiff...

Could be cause for throwing the whole thing out....

Can't See Sheep said...

anotherthing... said...
Do you guys think this effort will be the one that cracks this piece of crap nightmare wide open?
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Like you, I'm hoping it is & as you said, something does have to give sooner or later. It'd be nice, the viewing public would finally know what we know & there'd be no covering it up anymore. Things could move on. There wouldn't be this limbo of "are they going to film the kids again or not or when or maybe", it feels like somethings are sitting on hold & it all needs to move along.

I hope Jon gets it right & is successful this time, he at least wants to spend time with them, unlike kate who only claims she wants to spend time with them. He is the better parent to look after them & probably would have been a good deal more fair than kate when deciding her time with them. It's probably not all that difficult to be more fair than kate. Little miss boss of the schoolyard.

JFaye said...

He should have sought custody in the first place IMO. She is not primary custodial parent material. It is obvious that Kate does not put the children first. Also, I am not an expert on Philadelphia law but in Illinois, when parents agree to joint custody without a hearing, it is not necessary to meet a higher burden of proof to modify custody. Essentially, you now have a custody hearing that did not take place because of the agreement.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Was Jon in a coma when the initial divorce agreement was written? WHY did he not foresee exactly what has gone down in the last year or so? Most who watched J&K+8 saw these things as an inevitability.

And the guest house arrangement for Jon? Just as suspected: they knew when K8G bought the mansion their marriage was over but were willing to keep up the ruse of a happily married couple on camera.

How/why Jon did not see this coming is a mystery to me. Afterall, he was married to THE ICE QUEEN, so on what basis would he have expected a better divorce outcome?

The lawyer$ gotta love the word "Gos$$elin"$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

gosselin free said...

I am so sorry that Jon dropped his suit against TLC...the fact that KATE'S contract states that she will NOT be paid, unless Jon only works for them....is so unconstitutional! They CAN NOT require this. It is against the anti slavery laws for heaven's sake! Also the civil rights laws. Jon is a minority...he can not be stopped from making a living where ever he chooses!

I wish a civil rights lawyer would take up Jon's cause. A good lawyer.

Jon is always painted as a cheater, and that is why they broke up. When, in fact, Kate told him she was 'done!'-- as she does with everyone in her life sooner or later--six months before Jon ever dated someone else. Everyone allows her to paint herself as a victim, when the separation and divorce were her idea. Jon went to counseling, and she refused to join him.

Jon is the injured party, and he needs a lawyer to stand up for him in court and make his case.

gosselin free said...

one wonders why Jon agreed to the arbitrator's agreement in the first place????

Can't See Sheep said...

gosselin free said...
Why in the world would he trust that she would be fair, in her allowing him to see the kids? See, SHE determines when he can see the kids....and she wants him to look as bad as possible, so she punishes him, but not allowing him to see them, then complains on tv that he doesn't come to see them...
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Maybe he was hoping she'd behave like this. Maybe he was hoping she'd abuse what she was given, she has every other time. If she's been allowed to decide when he sees the children & she abuses that it's not going to look so good to a judge the next time she lands in court. She's not being very cooperative, she's not showing a willingness to do what is in the children's best interest all on her own accord.

I mean being so nasty that when you're not home you put you're kids in the care of nannies rather than have their dad there, that's more than just a little mean spirited on kate's part, that's down right cruel. Could be he's also realized if he ever wants a decent amount of time with his kids again before they grow up he needs to do something.

Although that's not good about List putting that he's the attorney for the defendant & not the plaintiff.

Mary P said...

I have looked into my screwed up Gosselin crystal ball and perdict that:
1.Kate will be forced amid tears to leave DWTS in order to defend herself and protect her children. ABC, TLC,ROL response: Poor Kate she is the victim again.
Truth:She is out without being eliminated.
2. Her book will be released right on the heels of her tragic exit from DWTS (After all she must support her children)
3.TLC will annouce her new show for the fall.

3.Jon will be called every dirty name in the book by her press machine and then become the stay at home father living above the garage. Isn't that where is he was when this first started?
What a mess!!!

Taylor Taylor said...

The foxes are guarding the hen house.

All we ever hear is "Jon's a deadbeat, Jon's a douche". Well, he CAN'T work because he _can_ and _has_ been sued for it by TLC. Why? Because he's UNDER CONTRACT w/ them... an exclusivity that Discovery Communication enforces so he can't get a job on some other "reality" show (a celeb divorced dad club show, a celeb weight-loss show, etc.). Why, because these fame-whoring monsters _refuse_ to get 9-to-5 jobs because they've had that taste of fame and are selfishly unwilling to downgrade their lifestyle.

They let this hypocritical monster Kate moonlight because they know she's their -- for now -- ca$hcow.

It's total madness! I would say 90% of the non-KON world (those who only know Kate had a "reality" show and has 8 kids and knows she and her husband divorced) wouldn't know that. So Fake is the "mother working to provide for her 8 kids" (oh, cry me a river!) and Jon looks like a loafing deadbeat dad.

It's enraging and Kate gets the free pass.

Jen said...

If you read these documents you can see that Jon had incompetent counsel during this arbitration. First, there was never documentation of what the true expenses for the children were. So Jon has been paying an arbitrary amount of money it would seen. Second, the visitation is not set as a schedule but is SOLELY at Kate's discretion, which she has been abusing. Third, Jon is supposed to be able to reside in the guest house even while Kate is there which she is not allowing. I hope Jon gets custody of the kids and Kate gets ample visitation when she can bother being in the same time zone. But since she, herself, said that this is "the kids' house" that would mean that Jon would have the house most of the time (basically a reversal of the current situation) and Kate would be in the guest house (unless Jon purchases his own house).

It's pretty simple and boils down to what is best for the kids. It goes beyond this Jon Vs Kate debate that everyone has on these boards. Kate works away from where her children live. It only makes sense that the kids should primarily be with the parent who is most available to take care of them. There's not reason why nannies should be taking care of the kids when their dad is right there. And, this business about not working. Welcome to reality. It's the way it is in many families when a mom is at home taking care of the kids, even after a divorce when there is child support and alimony. If it's ok for a mom to be home with her kids while her former, more affluent spouse works, then why isn't it ok for a dad? Especially when the work of taking care of eight kids is so great. It's not like Jon would be sitting around...eight kids takes a great deal of work if you are doing it right. Kate? She hires a nanny instead...even while at home!? Please! If she wants to go off and be famous, go ahead. But her kids live in PA and if she doesn't want to be there with them, let Jon do what is best for the kids. Everyone rags on Jon, but the truth is that if he's willing to step up and bet there for the kids when Kate isn't that shows some character there that should be recognized.

Momof2 said...

I couldn't click on the documents on TMZ...said file was corrupted...

JuneBug said...

I'm sure that Jon must have his little "gosselings" in order if he's filing in court. I'm sure that the checkers will catch that the lawyer has himslef listed as the attorney for the "defendent" rather than the plaintiff (in his signature block) at the bottom BEFORE he signs/signed it. This lawyer seems to be a pro.

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

So right, Gosselin Free!

Visitation at sole descretion of Khate???
Mandate w/regard to custody at her descretion again???

I knew there was a glitch when I didn't see him there for such a long time, and asked the question here many times. As stated, she had something fishy behind here veneers.

Bet he panicked at the finances and agreed to anything...
Of course he had great lawyers to help him...

JJ in WA said...

Hopefully the mandatory classes or court dates are only held on Monday's or Tuesday's! What a decision she would have to make-remember-The Show Must Go On!

Momof2 said...

gosselin free said...

one wonders why Jon agreed to the arbitrator's agreement in the first place????

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Because he was given bad advice...understand Jon was set up by TLC throughout this whole charade. His last lawyer Heller was Hailey's uncle....Hailey=TLC payroll for the smear Jon campaign.

silimom said...

Why Jon agteed to the inital arbitration - rumor was that he did not have an attorney to help him.

TLC's involvement - funny how his child support is the amount of his TLC monthly salary. Given that the contract ends in May at which point TLC will no longer be paying him, he's attempting to have the support award negotiated.

Love that they have to attend parenting classes.

I suspect they'll settle.

goawayJandK said...

K8 has ALWAYS been an absentee "mom", her stint with DWTS is no different. What is so different now that Jon finally speaks up ?

How will Jon stand up to TLC/K8 this time?

My gawd these poor kids :

* an immature, selfish kid with no ambition for a father

* an egocentric, narcissitic, borderline psychotic, famewhore for a mother

* tabloids, network tv, cable tv all using them for ratings

* the state of PA doing NOTHING to help them

I hope when the time comes, K8 spends the rest of her days where the sun don't shine...........

Shoshannah said...

I could never understand why Jon agreed to the terms of the settlement to begin with - other than the fact that his lawyer was nothing but a bad joke.

First of all, shouldn't Kate be making alimony payments to Jon, since she was the 'breadwinner' throughout their marriage and he was the custodial stay-at-home dad?

My understanding is that alimony is supposed to allow you to maintain the same lifestyle arrangement as what you had during the course (or, in this case, curse) of the marriage.

Regarding child support: How did it turn out that Jon is supposed to be paying
child support of >$20,000/month when he was
not gainfully employed?? I just don't understand.

Shoshannah said...

I just had a very Kate-like thought:

In order to make herself a martyr and further vilify Jon,
I wonder if Kate will voluntarily withdraw from DWTS
BEFORE the next results come in, thereby saving herself from getting kicked off and humiliated,
raising the banner of "Most Sacrificing Mother Who
Ever Lived."

In other words: You can't fire me. I quit!

Oh, please, don't let this happen.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Oh my lordie be, I just realized this will be new fertile ground for K8G to play victim and boo hoo her tearless tv crying scenes.

She will use this as a way to try to rally the support of working moms who want sole custody of their kids.

Prepare, people, it's going to be a Gosselin Spectacle Extraordinaire.

Just the kind of crap TLC would use as a format for another one of their 'reality' shows. Talk about vomitous......

HW said...

Perhaps Jon has spent the last few months gathering info and preparing for this? I really hope this is going to be an organized, well planned action on Jon's part.

I also hope that footage from their series can be brought in to show what kind of parent Kate really is.

Finally, I hope that the truth will all come out soon and all those talk show hosts will be falling all over themselves trying to explain why they didn't report what was so easy to find out in the first place.

If Kate had any love at all for her kids, she'd let them live wit their father while she pursued her dreams of fame. She'd be much happier when she did see them which would make their relationship better than it is now. Surely those children would rather be with a happy mother part time than an angry, frightening, resentful mother all the time.

They are going to grow up one day and ask "Why didn't anybody help us?" Poor kids.

Laurie said...

WOW! Kate's head must be spinning like Linda Blair's in the Exorcist! I'd hate to be on the receiving end of her anger today. All this is coming out right before her book and it shows that she's not "destitute" and having to "work" to support those kids.

N.E. Psychologist said...

Gosselin Free said

one wonders why Jon agreed to the arbitrator's agreement in the first place????
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(I realize that this may not be in exact chronological order).

Put yourself in Jon's shoes:

Imagine, if you will, spending ten (10) years married to Kate. She is your wife. You support her through two sets of fertility treatments and ultimately have 8 children. You agree to a reality show and sign your life over to tlc.
You receive lots of help and tons of freebies. You prostitute yourself in front of church and other groups for "love offerings." This makes you uncomfortable. You let your wife take over the public speaking.
You love your wife and your kids.. When the twins were 6 and the sextuplets were 2, you are qouted as saying ::I love saying I have 2 six-year-olds and 6 two-year olds. I can't imagine another life." You mean it.
Your wife convinces you to quit your job so you can be home to help her. She is then gone increasing amounts of time, with a body guard in tow.

She systematically distances all of you from her family. God only knows what she did to yours.

Your wife, your life's partner, becomes increasingly critical of everything you do to the point that your can't even breathe correctly.. You disagree, try to argue; she's like a steamroller. You give up.
You love your children and try and try to give them a good life while making their mother happy. You become an abused spouse, with the mentality that goes along with that (e.g., helpless/hopeless).
And one day your wife of 10 years tells you "it's over. BUT, we have to pretend that it's not." WTF! Think about actually living in that bind. (No wonder he said he couldn't be himself.)
You develop a friendship with a local teacher. Her brother decides to cash in and calls the media. The papparazzi frenzy ensues.
(Please note that as far as I know, Deanna never spoke to the media. The info. about this relationship came from her brother).

You are a lost soul, grabbing onto anyone who offers you friendship, solace and/or a way to go forward. You judgement is impaired, you make stupid mistakes and you trust the wrong people to help you put your life right.
The media,your ex and your erstwhile "friends" continuously publicly ridicule you. You try to go up against a mega corporation and get SLAMMED.

But YOU STILL LOVE YOUR CHILDREN. What would you do next?

gosselin free said...

You know the kids go to school without a body guard.

Jon goes everywhere with out a body guard.

Why would Kate NEED a bodyguard?

It is a silliness that no one but Steve's wife believes. Kate and Steve stubbornly have been carrying on a relationship...he has been her paid escort for 2 years now.

This would have been grounds for Jon to file for divorce. I wish he would have. And I hope he learned his lesson, and will have a judge decide his custody arrangement this time, and not allow the "mediator"...someone who doesn't have a degree in law, but instead has a course under their belt....decide where his kids go.

Notice in the court documents the mention of the Americans with disablilties act? Jon, get treatment for drug abuse. Admit it, and end it. No one can hold it against you, if you get treatment. It is a disablility.

Kia Ora said...

When she said "mine all mine" I smelt a rat then. When Jon walked in the bedroom that time she said "you will be serverly punished" to the kids (words to that effect). He was walking around like it was the first time he had seen the room (place, inside). Remember she said something to the effect "Jon are paying attention"? This agreement with TLC was made out long before that show IMHO. The house was obviously bought for the convenience of the show. Out in the boonies. I always thought why would thirty year olds buy such a fuddy duddy place.

Momof2 said...

TLC is making Jon appear as a deadbeat Dad because he can't work for anyone else but them for money...and they aren't letting him work. Visitation is at the sole discretion of Kate who is KEEPING Jon away to appear as if he's a dead beat Dad who doesn't visit his kids.

There it is in black and white.

Vanessa said...

What a smug little b%$#@ she's been this last year! Between "Kate-Her Story", the Today show appearances, the View bull%$#@ etc. it's been a total LIE! She held the cards all along,(well her and TLC) He's been paying montly support with WHAT I don't know, but she had to make sure he didn't work for anyone BUT TLC!! How the HELL does that work?
What is REALLY her problem?? She's PURE EVIL! She's made it her agenda to have Jon PAY and PAY dearly he has. Those POOR kids!

silimom said...

gosselin free -

Why do you keep saying that Jon is a drug addict? Do you have credible proof to this fact? I know that was bandied about in the tabloids last summer and I know Hailey or one of the other 15 minutes of fame girls claimed they did, but I don't know that I find any of those "women" very reliable sources of information.

According to the tabloids, Kate is an alcoholic. So frankly, then, both parents should go into rehab, if your claims about Jon's use of marijuana are true.

SAHM said...

This is gonna get real nasty people!! Can't wait to see it all blow up!

http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/07/jon-gosselin-kate-gosselin-dancing-with-the-stars-custody-child-support-vote-dwts-anthony-list-court/

Cry Me a River said...

Jon is not getting any sympathy from anyone in the media as always. Let's just hope this time he has been doing his homework and has an ace up his sleeve..such as exactly how much money she is spending on nannies, how many there are now and how many have come and gone...how old they are, what experience they have. If background checks have been done.

The fact that she has refused to let him have extra time while she is away. The fact that when she gets through w/ DWTS she has a book tour coming up, and how long she was gone w/ the last one.

And maybe just maybe the kids have encouraged this as well - there may have been an incident with one of the nannies that sparked it. How often she is gone aside from DWTS, i.e. the women's conference, trips to NY. How much she spends on a bodyguard for herself w/ no security for the children.

I just really wish that the media would do their homework and at least watch the last 2 seasons before they make judgment. How many times have we heard them say that have never watched the show.

Terrasola said...

In my opinion, the kids might be better off without either parent, but with a court-appointed guardian who is well-adjusted and has their best interests at heart.

As I see more and more of both Gosselin parents' behaviours I see more parallels to my own parents. Father has Narcissistic Personality Disorder (Kate behaves similarly); Mum was a co-dependent, passive-aggressive emotional wreck (lots of similarities to Jon). Please note that I am NOT a mental health professional, just a family survivor who has been in therapy on and off for almost 20 years.

Anyone who knows what a clinical Narcissist is like knows they should not have care and control of minors as they will cause emotional (and probably physical) damage. It also stands to reason that their partners must have emotional problems to be attracted to, and stay with, them. So say my therapists. Such people are also likely, unless treated, to also inflict damage on children who do not have the life experience to understand what is going on.

I believe that neither parent should have custody in the absence of them having serious and substantial mental health counselling. Why should the children have to undergo such counselling at their expense in the future? I would not want to see those kids go through the hell that I experienced. The sad thing is that I probably passed some of that on to my kids, and they probably passed some of that on to their babies. The Gosselin kids deserve better.

Momof2 said...

According to the Americans with Disabilities Act: In order for an individual's drug addiction to be considered a disability under the ADA, it would have to pose a substantial limitation on one or more major life activities.

Casual drug use is NOT covered under the ADA. I have never seen where Jon is a drug addict or has problems performing day to day duties as a result of any addiction.

dustilies said...

gosselin free said:

Notice in the court documents the mention of the Americans with disablilties act? Jon, get treatment for drug abuse. Admit it, and end it. No one can hold it against you, if you get treatment. It is a disablility.

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I didn't see this--can you give directions to where it is located?

Maybe then I could understand the connection (no pun intended) you are making between ADA substance abuse in this divorce.

Till then, puzzled.

~Shari~ said...

AnotherThing said: Something has to give. IS this the catalyst? Or am I hoping for too much again?
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We're probably all hoping for too much again. As long as Kart willingly continues to be the butt of TLC's joke (unbeknownst to Kart, of course), they'll continue riding the 'Kart' all the way to the bank. The sad truth of the matter is, if it weren't for the money, she'd willingly hand those kids off to anybody, but they're her only source of income, not to mention leverage in her revenge against Jon.

kitnkaboodle said...

This is strange, as usually support reviews can only be conducted every TWO years, unless there has been a change in circumstances. IE: the payor's income changes, etc. So unless Jon has "lost his job" (what IS his job, exactlay??) or has been remanded to jail and can't pay , or ......some other MAJOR change, well the courts won't allow a payor (or payee) to go in to court this soon after the initial judgement.
Not sure about the custody request though. And IF he got custody, yes she would have to pay HIM, therefore there is the support change.
STILL dont' quite know "who" Jon "works" for....he would have had to produce some W2's or paystubs or something in the initial divorce proceedings, when the state was deciding on child support.
Very curious.

Anna said...

Shoshannah said...
First of all, shouldn't Kate be making alimony payments to Jon, since she was the 'breadwinner' throughout their marriage and he was the custodial stay-at-home dad?

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I think they would have both been considered breadwinners as they were both on the TV show. There are lots of factors used to consider if alimony will be awarded. It is not a life long ticket to living off your EX.

When determining the amount and duration of support, the court will consider the following: A.The earning potential and earning capacities of the parties. B.The ages and health condition of the parties. C.The income of the parties. D.The expectancies and inheritances of the parties. E.The length of the marriage. F.The contribution by one party to the earning capacity of the other. G.The extent to which the earning power, expenses or financial obligations of a party will be affected by reason of serving as the custodian of a minor child. H.The standard of living of the parties established while married. I.The relative education of the parties and the time necessary to acquire sufficient education or training to enable the party seeking alimony to find appropriate employment. J.The relative assets and liabilities of the parties. K.Any pre-marital property. L.The contribution of a spouse as homemaker. M.The relative needs of the parties. N. Any marital misconduct or fault O.Tax consequences P.Whether the party seeking alimony lacks sufficient property Q.Whether the party seeking alimony is incapable of self-support through appropriate employment. (Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes - Title 23 - Sections: 3701, 3702, 3704, 3706)

angelpat1 said...

The tabloid covers are out and it is not looking good for Kate Gosselin! This new book of hers is gross. Kartie Bo Peep may lose some sheep.

etownmom2 said...

IMO - Jon had a terrible attorney first time through. I hope this one is better for the sake of the kids. Jon gets hammered for his attorney choices BUT what reputable attorney gives an exclusive interview to Radaronline? I mean really folks, don't you find all of this really odd?

I hope they get a judge that puts the children's needs first and makes Jon AND Kate and their attorneys shut up.

kitnkaboodle said...

See, SHE determines when he can see the kids....and she wants him to look as bad as possible, so she punishes him, but not allowing him to see them, then complains on tv that he doesn't come to see them...
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This is an EXTREMELY COMMON technique used by primary custodial parents. It's a "damned if you do and damned if you don't" world for the non-custodial parent who happens to have been married to, and created childrn with, the type of person who uses the kids this way to be passive/aggressive.
Jon was certainly a fool in "agreeing" (?) to have children with Kate. And certainly in allowing that hyperstimulated ovary conception to have occurred.

Cry Me a River said...

Jon's former lawyer should be sued for poor representation. He was clearly a mole and Jon just agreed to everything, because he couldn't pay and I think Heller was on someone else's payroll.

I really don't think Jon had any idea just how nasty Kate could be and I say that literally, because she so looks the part. I think she convinced him if he just signed everything would be alright.

I don't think anyone could have known what Kate's newfound stardom would have done to her. She is a completely different person than the one we knew from the show. I think one day she will be in for a rude awakening, but it just seems like everything goes her way, or is just that she plans it that way, very devious, deceitful and manipulative just like when she was a child letting her brother take beatings for her mean ass.

And people wonder why so many people are tuning in to DWTS just see her make a fool of herself, she is just hard down mean. I think she may be showing signs of a disturbance and that is what has Jon so worried. She is going to crack one day and it will not be a pretty picture when it happens.

OMGNoMore!!!! said...

Okay - I haven't watched the show for a couple years ... like since season 2 ... because I just couldn't watch the constant berating of a husband and children. I just didn't find it funny or endearing or whatever. And honestly, I don't know, that may have been the schtick of TLC to get viewers ... but in my mind, no self respecting wife and mother would have gone along with having herself portrayed in that manner.

So now ... after all that I've read in the tabloids ... I just have to ask .. did Jon change that much once the money came? Because if anyone would go back and look at that family prior to the fame and fortune ... they would see who the REAL parent was ... he was the one who got up in the morning with 8 children ... worked a full time job ... and came home at night and relieved his wife of the responsibilities of bathing and putting his 8 children to sleep! This seems to be the only site who isn't Jon bashing ... so I just had to vent here! Sorry.

Cry Me a River said...

Another note...I think Jon may have dabbled with a few things when he was hanging out with Hailey, afterall her new cause is to get Mari. legalized. But he shows no indications of a personality disorder such as Kate does and no signs of being any kind of an addict whatsoever. The only thing that might make one consider that would be that he is unemployed and that is not by his choice. He was out there hustling for money, just in all the wrong ways with no guidance in the right way, when he could and he got his pants sued off him for that.

Hambone said...

I think Kate is a terrible parent, but dude....Jon ruined any chance of getting those kids when he up and moved 3 hours away for no reason, and then didn't see the kids for weeks and weeks because of a girl(s).

They both should be very very ashamed of what they've done to their family and how they've behaved toward each other in the media.

Jacsamic said...

If the judge wants to see how the children are doing with the 'Nanny'....just look at these pictures from ROL

http://www.radaronline.com/
exclusives/2010/04/
photos-jon-kate-battle-over-custody-nanny-picks-kids

Simply heartbreaking.

And Yes, I do believe they will grow up and wonder why no one helped them.

Simply heartbreaking.

Hambone said...

SoCalER-RN said...
Anyone know when the Gosselin contract with TLC is over? I get up early in the AM and had noticed that TLC was running re-runs of their show. But lately... nothing! Maybe since the beginning of the month?!
Maybe that is why Jon has decided to take Kate back to court. Or would it even matter where TLC is concerned? (contractually,that is)
Don't know much about it. Does anyone have any thoughts?

4/07/2010 2:47 PM



I read a while back, maybe last fall, that Jon was under contract with TLC until March 2010.

MBach said...

I don't know if this correct or not, but Popeater is reporting that Kate Majors (listed as Jon's X) is now engaged to Michael Lohan.

I agree with N.E. Psychologist. It also seems to me that Jon has been pushed farther and farther into a bad situation. I think he has really been used and abused by Kate Gosselin, and I can't help but feel sorry for him. Neither Kate/hate nor Jon have much going for them in the head department, but at least Jon has HEART! I have always believed him to be the most loving parent available to the kids.

I will always hope the best for the kids, and still believe that is Jon.

NT said...

On Nancy Grace tonite Jon's new lawyer was on and he said that money was put aside for Jon to pay child support. So money that he was awarded in the divorce was to go to Kate anyway. Jon really got raked over the coals and I hope that at least some of this gets rectified by going back to court and in front of a judge this time. I'm sure it all won't go Jon's way but at least some of it should.

IDModo said...

Everyone seems to have missed the point that if Jon wins this custody battle, he will have effectively destroyed Kate's reason for being in the public eye.How will she plead that she is the poor put-upon mother of 8 who does everything for her kids, if their Dad is doing it all for them at home.She has no other discernible talents.A loving stay-at-home Dad who works in the home looking after his children would completely negate all of the reasons for her career.She would fade into obscurity or have a very public breakdown if she didn't have the role of sole provider, caregiver,monkey munch maker, and sad little waif who must go on because she has the complete responsibility for 8 children.She would be relegated to the same role as many divorced dads have, sending home money and seeing the kids occasionally.I suppose TLC could put a spin on how full of pathos that situation would be, but it wouldn't be interesting for very long.The income would dry up.
I really, really hope Jon wins this, but I am skeptical that TLC will let him destroy their cash cow. Lift up the hems of your skirts, ladies, we are about to go through Hell.

Ingrid said...

Anyone ever hear what sort of property they had to split in their divorce that would be big enough to pay the old lawyer 43K? Is that what Jon has been living on?

http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/23/jon-and-kate-emergency-hearing-gosselin-divorce?icid=sphere_tmzcom_inline

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

`Jon is named as defendant because that's what he was titled in the original court papers. Kate will always be the plaintiff. Even though my ex took me to court annually to reduce child suppory. yet he was still the defendant because I originally filed.

And, oh yes, this will be one hot mess thanks to the tabs and ignorant fools @rol, tmz, etc. The only media person I trust is Whoopi. Joy Behar says one thing on her show and quite another on The View. Let's just hope Jon's new lawyer gets additional advice from some barracuda family law professionals.....because we certainly know that TLC will line 'em up for their precious Kart. And believe me, there are NO laws that regulate a lawyer telling the truth in representing a client. Money talks and bullchit walks and TLC will stop at nothing to protect their precious brand.


We're in for a stormy ride, bloggers! I'm just thrilled that Jon has finally stepped up in an adult fashion and shown exactly why he hasn't been on the scene. And I do so love being correct in my negative assumptions about the Hard Working/Stunning/Self-sacrificing/blah, blah, blah Mother of the Year.

Mary T. said...

Silimom: Actually, the only place I have read of Kate being a drunk has been on this blog and other similar type blogs. I have not heard about Jon being an addict though. I never read about Kate in a tabloid.

debbiejo said...

Watching a Biography Channel story about Robert Redford. It told about how he and his wife "quietly divorced in 1985". Then it went on to say, "he and his wife protected their families feelings by not talking about the divorce publicly".

Now THAT, Ms High road Khart.....is class

KartWreck said...

Any minute now she's gonna be forced to auction that 'magical uterus' off on ebay.

Damage Control said...

Anonymous Shoshannah said...

I just had a very Kate-like thought:

In order to make herself a martyr and further vilify Jon,
I wonder if Kate will voluntarily withdraw from DWTS
BEFORE the next results come in, thereby saving herself from getting kicked off and humiliated,
raising the banner of "Most Sacrificing Mother Who
Ever Lived."

In other words: You can't fire me. I quit!

Oh, please, don't let this happen.
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Now, now. You know that won't happen. Kart is a 'contract honorer'. She's not a 'quitter'. Besides, she has to face her 'dancing fear' first.


Go Jon! Go Attorney List!

SomewhereinOH said...

Momof2 said...
TLC is making Jon appear as a deadbeat Dad because he can't work for anyone else but them for money...and they aren't letting him work. Visitation is at the sole discretion of Kate who is KEEPING Jon away to appear as if he's a dead beat Dad who doesn't visit his kids.

There it is in black and white.

I absolutely agree 100 % !

Lorrie said...

Hope this lawyer knows what he's doing.

wpa said...

HLN Nancy Grace is discussing this topic tonight. She won't let his new lawyer answer fully. She blames Jon - says he is not working- and KATE SHOULDN'T BE PENALIZED for being a working mom. Why do all these talking heads side with her? She kicked him out! His lawyer says Kate has full custody and decides when jon can see the kids.

Minka's Tail said...

Already, every working mom is rallying behind Kate. I can't think of a more politically incorrect position to take on Jon's part. Is he completely stupid?. In the past, men who have sued for custody based on the mother's work habits or hours have been portrayed as pariahs by the media and on stations like Lifetime. Remember Marcia Clark's ex-husband, who sued for custody when she was working all the time during the OJ trial? The unwed father who tried to keep his girlfriend from moving with the baby to Massachusetts so she could go to Harvard? The consensus was that these were horrible, horrible men who were sexist pigs and didn't want women to work. True, maybe the kids would be better seeing Mr. Clark at night and not a nanny. Maybe the Harvard mother was selfish for taking her child away from his father, but nobody dared to say so in public. I remember these cases, and how they were spun to the public. Why doesn't Jon's lawyer?

It's over for him. Any residual sympathy will be gone. He chose the wrong battle to pick. I feel sorry for him, really. He has a good point, but he is so inarticulate and stupid, and she is so shrewd and manipulative that he just can't compete. Her image just had a 100% turnaround. I bet you never hear another story about what a horror she is, (like in today's US magazine.)

wpa said...

Jon's lawyer said on HLN that Kate got $100,000 per month from TLC after their show ended and Jon got $5000 per month. A news report yesterday said Jon has to pay Kate $30,000 per month child support. Jon's lawyer also said Jon is forbidden to work by his TLC contract. Nancy grace finds that hard to believe...

wpa said...

Jon's new lawyer said his first lawyer practiced in NY. The judge told Jon he could not be represented ny a NY lawyer. Apparantly Jon did not say wait a minute and get a PA lawyer. The judge ruled then. Kate got full custody. He now has a Pa lawyer.

SureClamsUpWhenSheWantsTo said...

snipped from NY Daily News, "On Tuesday, Jon Gosselin's new lawyer, former assistant U.S. Attorney Anthony F. List, told TMZ.com that he was planning to file an emergency petition this week because Kate is an 'absentee mom.' Kate, 35, was quick to respond to the claims, telling RadarOnline.com, 'I am not willing to comment in public on the custody discussions regarding my children..."
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Gee, Kate, why not? You talk about everything else! I know 'way more about you and your private life than I want to, thanks to your reality show and wherever else your mouth lands...

High-Profile Lawyer? said...

lonnie said...
Good for him
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Looks like the lawyer might have some pretty good credentials. Look out, Kate.

No lawyer said...

silimom said...

Why Jon agteed to the inital arbitration - rumor was that he did not have an attorney to help him.


4/07/2010 3:32 PM

That was Jon and Kate who had no attorney when signing the original contract with TLC

Can't See Sheep said...

@Shoshannah she can always voluntarily withdraw from DWTS & that may make her a martyr in the eyes of some, but with all this information coming out that's in black & white her martyrdom may be very short. People are really going to get angry when they find out that Jon couldn't work in order for her to get paid & that she turned around & made him out to be a dead beat dad who wasn't visiting the kids.

When it was she who was to decide how much time & when he got to see them. That is just not going to play out well, she kept him from his kids. Especially after he asked to take care of them while she was on DWTS. Awhile back she tried to get the public to question whether or not the kids were safe being with Jon, but it never seemed to take off, most likely because so many had seen differently. She may try to claim this again, but I don't think it'll be hard to disprove. Jon would never harm those kids.

Keeping the kids away from Jon & making him out to be a deadbeat is skanky no matter how you spin it.

I hope all this is brought up in every forum so that she can't escape it & has to pay the piper. She won't go out without a fight, but I think the tide may be turning on little miss katie irene. Anyone putting their name to her now could be tarnished, so who will run to defend her now, other than the sheeple of course. Sorry, but purposely keeping daddy away is abusive.

Jon said...

gosselin free said...
one wonders why Jon agreed to the arbitrator's agreement in the first place????
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Hard to know his frame of mind at the time. He had obviously been struggling with a variety of emotions and possibly some depression. When you're too, too down, you can't even concentrate. I truly don't mean this as a put-down, but perhaps Jon is also just not very worldly or a lot of this was over his head and he just didn't have proper input from enough people. I had a relative who was really done in by a woman, his wife, who he continued to trust to some degree because he just couldn't believe things had degraded to such a low place; he couldn't conceive of her gimme-gimme. Big mistake.

Not team Jon said...

Jen said...

If you read these documents you can see that Jon had incompetent counsel during this arbitration. First, there was never documentation of what the true expenses for the children were. So Jon has been paying an arbitrary amount of money it would seen. Second, the visitation is not set as a schedule but is SOLELY at Kate's discretion, which she has been abusing. Third, Jon is supposed to be able to reside in the guest house even while Kate is there which she is not allowing. I hope Jon gets custody of the kids and Kate gets ample visitation when she can bother being in the same time zone. But since she, herself, said that this is "the kids' house" that would mean that Jon would have the house most of the time (basically a reversal of the current situation) and Kate would be in the guest house (unless Jon purchases his own house).

It's pretty simple and boils down to what is best for the kids. It goes beyond this Jon Vs Kate debate that everyone has on these boards. Kate works away from where her children live. It only makes sense that the kids should primarily be with the parent who is most available to take care of them. There's not reason why nannies should be taking care of the kids when their dad is right there. And, this business about not working. Welcome to reality. It's the way it is in many families when a mom is at home taking care of the kids, even after a divorce when there is child support and alimony. If it's ok for a mom to be home with her kids while her former, more affluent spouse works, then why isn't it ok for a dad? Especially when the work of taking care of eight kids is so great. It's not like Jon would be sitting around...eight kids takes a great deal of work if you are doing it right. Kate? She hires a nanny instead...even while at home!? Please! If she wants to go off and be famous, go ahead. But her kids live in PA and if she doesn't want to be there with them, let Jon do what is best for the kids. Everyone rags on Jon, but the truth is that if he's willing to step up and bet there for the kids when Kate isn't that shows some character there that should be recognized.

4/07/2010 3:20 PM

I think you have a few things wrong. Child support is paid based on the parent's income NOT on the needs of the children. In any case, not just this one.

Originally I believe the house was bought and was for the kids. And I believe that it is always going to be their home.

BUT from what I have read, the house was awarded to Kate in the settlement and she owns it and is responsible for the upkeep, which is why it was at her discretion if Jon was staying in the guest house or not.

As such Jon cannot take the house. It is hers.

I think before I'd go Team Jon I'd wait a while and see just what comes out of this. I think Jon was quite content to play around and be away from the kids when he was with Morgan and had no expenses.

Now that her parents threw him out of their house he has no where of his own to go. I read that he has been staying with his brother and it isn't *working out.* Maybe his brother is tired of him mooching too.

I think Jon is doing this so he can live the high life and not have to work. I also believe that if he won all he is asking for in this lawsuit, he would eventually leave the kids with nannies and we'd see him out partying.

Can't See Sheep said...

Momof2 said...

I couldn't click on the documents on TMZ...said file was corrupted...
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Hi Momof2 try this & see if it will get you there.

http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0407_gosselin_TMZ.pdf

silimom said...
Love that they have to attend parenting classes.
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I love this so much, but feel so sorry for the person teaching it, could you imagine what a brat kate is likely to be in this, the woman who thinks she knows everything. OMG I'd love to be a fly on that wall.

wpa said...

Correction - Jon's lawyer said Jon and Kate had an arbitrator not a judge. Jon did not know the arbitrator.

Facts is facts said...

Shoshannah said...

I could never understand why Jon agreed to the terms of the settlement to begin with - other than the fact that his lawyer was nothing but a bad joke.

First of all, shouldn't Kate be making alimony payments to Jon, since she was the 'breadwinner' throughout their marriage and he was the custodial stay-at-home dad?

My understanding is that alimony is supposed to allow you to maintain the same lifestyle arrangement as what you had during the course (or, in this case, curse) of the marriage.

Regarding child support: How did it turn out that Jon is supposed to be paying
child support of >$20,000/month when he was
not gainfully employed?? I just don't understand.

4/07/2010 3:41 PM

I'm sorry but Kate was the saty-at-home mom and Jon worked outside the home for the first few years of the tups lives.

And child support is based on the parent's income. So obviously the court ruled based on some income of his.

Read N.E. Psychologist Here! said...

N.E. Psychologist...a tiny snip from an excellent comment, one of the best I've read synopsizing the case of Jon, "Put yourself in Jon's shoes..." - your post, N.E., made so much sense to me. Thank you for thinking it out for us; you obviously know what you're talking about and it helps me understand things better as regards Jon.

Can't See Sheep said...

@N.E. Psychologist beautiful! Your post really does set out what Jon went through very clearly without all the drama & additives that clouded it in the tabloids. It's easier to see why he ended up where he did after reading your post.

Vanessa said...
What is REALLY her problem?? She's PURE EVIL! She's made it her agenda to have Jon PAY and PAY dearly he has. Those POOR kids!
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kate's need for absolute control over everyone & everything around her is truly sick! I bet she's shrieking her fool head off tonight. Looks good on her, legally hobbling Jon & then saying he's a dead beat & doesn't spend time with his kids, oh I hope this is the straw that breaks the camels back. It'd be even nicer if the lawyer could nail her for slander as well, lying little toad. I hope the truth spills out all over the tabloids & she gets to feel what she put Jon through.

Jen said...
If it's ok for a mom to be home with her kids while her former, more affluent spouse works, then why isn't it ok for a dad?
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Exactly, it should be ok for a dad. Too bad Jon couldn't' get in touch with Bob Geldoff, he's been doing some things for dad's rights the last few years.

Even if you take away all the irritation we have for kate, it still really does make sense for Jon to be there with the kids & kate to go out & pursue whatever it is she thinks she's chasing. this is the arrangement she was trying to force on him when they were married, only with less control for kate & that always seems to be where her problem is, having control over everything & everyone.

She's Really Exposed Now said...

What is REALLY her problem?? She's PURE EVIL! She's made it her agenda to have Jon PAY and PAY dearly he has. Those POOR kids!
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Yes, Vanessa, I'm equally disturbed, all snark aside. This whole thing is now bordering on something very sinister and I want out. Kate is just plain scary.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"It is a silliness that no one but Steve's wife believes. Kate and Steve stubbornly have been carrying on a relationship...he has been her paid escort for 2 years now.

This would have been grounds for Jon to file for divorce."

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What would have been grounds to file for divorce? The fact that she has an "escort" that doubles as a bodyguard? There's no way it would have held up in court. He didn't need grounds to file. It was no-fault divorce. Under what grounds would he have filed? Adultery? Very unlikely. It is extremely difficult to obtain a divorce on those grounds in the state of Pennsylvania -- in fact, even if it were shown that there was opportunity but he couldn't prove disposition, it wouldn't hold up in court. Moreover, he would need to catch them in the act, and/or have the testimony of a witness who actually was present when they "did it."

Jenny said...

Gosselin Free said: Jon is always painted as a cheater, and that is why they broke up. When, in fact, Kate told him she was 'done!'-- as she does with everyone in her life sooner or later--six months before Jon ever dated someone else. Everyone allows her to paint herself as a victim, when the separation and divorce were her idea. Jon went to counseling, and she refused to join him.
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Thank you! Yes! We all know this. Somebody... anybody...out there in Sheepleland, please understand this! I'm thinking that most folks don't know this part of the Gosselins' story since they likely got onboard with them at a later time and are victims of all the TLC/K8 clever spin! They also probably missed her horrendous abuse of Jon along with her selfish, hateful ways toward Jon and the kids that we all saw. Those attitudes are what caused me and others to stop supporting her and is why we dislike her and reject the newly minted version of K8. You HAVE to figure some people missed all that and came in during the ongoing "Reinvention of K8" campaign.

And I agree...Jon was just way too trusting of his then lawyer during the time custody was initially being decided, a lawyer who, though he was expensive, apparently failed to get much for his client when going up against the highly paid NY law team that TLC paid for...and is still paying for. Apparently K8 thinks she can get away with shutting Jon out at will since she's got all the high powered, paid-for legal help behind her. I've said it before but I feel so strongly that Jon has been treated like an anonymous, irrelevant sperm donor and not the loving father we know him to be of those precious kids (despite his obvious bad judgment last year...but hopefully he's learned from his mistakes).

Let's hope Jon's new lawyer is savvy enough to make a difference on Jon's behalf and can at least manage to finally get him some rights. I read that the TLC lawyers are ridiculing the court documents that were filed, stating they are filled with errors. Oh my. I really wonder why one of those high powered California attorneys doesn't step up...you know, someone who plays hard ball and has experience in child custody law. They've all been so quiet through all of this!

PA Woman said...

Can someone post the link for the court papers? I've been all over tmz and can't find them. I'm going crazy...want to read them!

PA Woman said...

Pa Mom Knows said...
"The sheeple are having a fit over on ROL."

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The sheeple ALWAYS have a fit. It's the only life they know.

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

I'm enjoying watching it though. Usually it just makes me angry.

PA Woman said...

Kia Ora said...
The house was obviously bought for the convenience of the show. Out in the boonies. I always thought why would thirty year olds buy such a fuddy duddy place.

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Look at the time line. Kate gave Jon his marching papers in October. They moved in to the house in late Nov or early December. That house was bought as a TV set with a separate apartment for Jon. For sure it was all planned!

anotherthing... said...

It seems that the docs show that TLC/Karts PR team have created the situation in which they can slander Jon and then create 'evidence'. Like this visitation. The child support. The job situation. All of it.

What. A. Hoax.

I hope a pack of wolves swoop in from the hills of rural PA and begin to care for the kids: it would be such an improvement.

Jenny said...

N.E. Psychologist, way to lay out the entire scenario. Anyone reading that, would better understand why we feel the way we do about K8. We've all seen how this situation went down. Others have only seen the high dollar reinvention of K8 coupled with the bashing of Jon over the past year.

Well done indeed!

Something (Else) Funky said...

The copy of the lawsuit printed by TMZ is not signed, so is not the copy filed at the courthouse. From whence did TMZ's copy come?

DDBC said...

I just saw on ROL that the nanny picked the kids up at the bus today. Really? Why isn't she home and doing this? Perhaps she's exhausted from earning a living. No doubt it's draining with the travel and dance practice. So why wasn't Jon there picking them up? With all that's going on one of them should be the high profile hands on parent. I believe they should all live less publicly and parent privately but unfortunately it seems like the nannies are doing the parenting and both parents are absentee. God bless them all.

Angie said...

I'm constantly amazed by how Kate always manages to find lawyers who are just as nasty as she is. When I read the quote from Kate's lawyer referring to Jon's lawsuit as pathetic I thought: 1. If Kate cared about her children at all she wouldn't employ a lawyer who insults their father publicly. 2. That guy is totally unprofessional. He's acting like he's in a fight on the elementary school playground and not a professional lawyer who should be arguing his case in court using logic and not arguing his case in the media using vile, nasty, immature words.

Tami said...

Unless I'm wrong, the documents say that it is when Jon has custody that he can stay in the guest house when Kate refuses to leave and in the main house when she does go. The sheeple on ROL were going on and on about why should he live with her in her house forever, blah, blah, as if he wants to be there 24/7 and not just when he has custody. I don't know why I torture myself and look at that site. I need to just let it go..

I'm so shocked at how she was just able to get the house--they did not even have to sell it and split up assets?? AND full control of the visitation, just everything. Pretty sad. He should be fighting this tooth and nail, but should have from the start. Hope this lawyer is 100% better.

StoryLady said...

I know people on the elimination thread were asking about this; I haven't read through the comments here. Forgive me if this has already been answered.
Jon's new attorney couldn't come to Jon, Jon had to come to him. My husband is an attorney and it is illegal for an attorney to solicit clients.
Even if Dr. Gosselin said, "Please look after my son and his family", that isn't enough. Jon had to do it himself.
I think probably Heller was bright and flashy and showy, so Jon went with him.
Mr. List (I asked my husband to look him up in the Bar Association records, or whatever you call them) has a solid and dignified reputation, and has been in practice since 1968.
My husband said, "Not only would a guy like this not do it for the money or the notoriety, he probably hates being involved and is only doing it because he promised his late friend."
Again, take it or leave it, but I'm encouraged.

Momof2inMD said...

Wow, I didn't know he supposed to pay $20,000 a month for child support. Kind of speechless how they handle all this.

IDModo said...

Showbiz Tonight on CNN has a spot about the custody review where they state that TLC will be releasing details about Kate's new show TODAY.

lidandan said...

SoCalER-RN said...

Anyone know when the Gosselin contract with TLC is over? I get up early in the AM and had noticed that TLC was running re-runs of their show. But lately... nothing! Maybe since the beginning of the month?!
Don't know much about it. Does anyone have any thoughts?

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TLC probably owns the distribution and ownership rights to all the footage and episodes of J&K+8.
They can choose to air the episodes or not, regardless of their contract with the Gosselins.
Otherwise the show and other shows wouldn't be sold on DVD or syndicated.

The 6am time slot isn't always J&K+8 the channel mixes it up all the time.
Just a few weeks ago it was wedding specials the whole week, then Table for 12, or The Little Couple. Now it's their weekend home shows Moving Up and Property Ladder. It will probably change again in a few weeks.

dee has had enough... said...

Well, I can now sleep at night...LOL

http://gossip.whyfame.com/hugh-hefner-kate-gosselin-will-definitely-not-pose-for-playboy-4161

winsomeone said...

Nancy Grace tore poor Jon apart again last night..for some reason she just loves Kate. Jon's lawyer was on, and she barely let him answer her questions. Then she kept playing long snippets of poor, suffering Kate. Towards the end, on one of them, in reply to Jon's suit, Kate said "Bring it on!" So she must have the hot shot lawyers backing her again I suppose.

cmgardner01 said...

Am wondering and would like feed back, does anyone think Kate and TLC put Jon up to stirring up trouble for her to keep ABC's ratings high on DWTS and to get the pity vote for her?

MsJess said...

@goawayJandK

I couldn't agree more. I used to be more sympathetic to Jon but he pissed that all away sowing his wild oats and dating 20 year olds. I don't know if it was a mid-life crisis or just him trying to get out his TLC contract but he came across as being immature and selfish and a hypocrite. He's ever bit as absantee as Kate.

I'd still say he'd be a better custodial parent than Kate (of course hell would freeze over before he could achieve that) but only because he seems to care about them as people vs meal tickets and props.

NT said...

ROL is saying that Kate's new show will be called Twist of Kate. She helps women who write to her or something like that.

IDModo said...

According to ROL, the new show is called "Twist of Kate" and it looks like some sort of advice show for her sheeple. She will be going around providing advice and support for all the fans who have written to her. It's not clear whether the show will involve travelling.There will be 12 episodes this summer.
More like Twisted Kate, everyone knows she hates her fans unless she needs them for something.
In the meantime, I think she's giving Jon more fodder for his custody application, as a new show, book tour,and possible DWTS tour will surely make her even more unavailable to her kids.

cherios said...

TLC is making Jon appear as a deadbeat Dad because he can't work for anyone else but them for money...
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Uh, I don't think that's true. TLC is blocking Jon from appearing on TV that doesn't mean he can't work. This guy is not an actor and has not talent. I don't WANT him on my TV. There are plenty of real jobs out there he could do, but both Kate and him seem to think they're too fabulous to work.

Charlie Rose said...

Why or why do we keep hearing about their private life? Seriously I don't care and neither should you. I know we all care about the children but this is getting beyond ridiculous. Every couple of months will be subjected to their private life just so they are kept in the news?

Kate says she doesn't want to be an embarrassment to her children. A little too late, don't you think?

How many other celebrities (gag a little in my mouth) talk about their personal private lives? Most of them go to great lengths to keep it private.

Wow, what a concept.

ToxicKate said...

I just want to remind readers of some of Kate's behavior WHILE the cameras were ROLLING. What she did when they were off was probably 10x worse. For anyone who thinks she should be around many small children for any length of time:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-06-07/kate-gosselins-top-10-angry-moments/full/

Riley said...

TLC: Kate Gosselin Will Have New Reality Show, Twist Of KateTLC: Kate Gosselin Will Have New Reality Show, Twist Of Kate.

Kate Gosselin will show her life as a single mother in Twist of Kate, a forthcoming TLC show that will begin with a 12-episode run this summer.

I look at it as a loose concept," Gosselin told the paper. "I want to be out there learning from others, helping to provide insight whenever I can, though I don't consider myself an expert on anything."

Still, Kate says, it's the support from her fans that matters.

"The fact that people really support me and want the kids and I to do well... is flattering," she told the paper. "I never understood the importance of fans until we struggled and went through tough times."

Pa Mom Knows said...

"His last lawyer Heller was Hailey's uncle....Hailey=TLC payroll for the smear Jon campaign."

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Are you sure about that? I thought Mike Heller was Hailey's uncle, not Mark Heller.

For Reals Amanda said...

N.E. Psychologist- That was amazing. I totally agree with your thinking.

Lucy said...

USA Today states Khate's new show is called "Twist of Kate". Shouldn't it be Twisted Kate???
Here's the link:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2010-04-08-TLC1D08_ST_N.htm

It is as reported here at GWOP a show having Khate visit everyday workers and help them with their daily challenges. Good grief! She can't figure out how to help herself!

Run John far away from khate said...

I hope he gets what he wants. The media has been unfair to him. Yes he made some dumb mistakes, but why do they say he "cheated" on his wife? He did no such thing until Khate said she was done with him. I wish he was better at defending himself. The media won't do it for him. He is still by far the BETTER parent.

Rosie on team 8 said...

OH NO, not just ONE show but TWO! "starring" Kate.I'm feeling so bad for the twins. Private school or not, kids will be kids. how long will it take before Mady acts out because she doesn't want the camera in her face, catching all of her "best moments" for all her classmates to see.

LP said...

I don't get it....Jon is accusing her of being an absentee mother (too true) and TLC anounces today that she'll be in a new show which will take her away from home even more! WTF??? Is Jon's lawsuit TLC's way of letting him back in the picture to take care of the kids so that kate can go on her merry way? Is this another PR stunt?

Heather said...

Kate is going to give advice for living? That is rich. Who in the world would want advice from that train wreck of a woman? A woman who claims she has to pay her bills by appearing on Dancing with the Stars. To pay for her $7K hair extensions.
If people are really seeking advice from her then they are attention whores just like she is.

Carezee said...

Okay Kate can act like she can't make it on a nurses salary but everyone jumps on Jon because he isn't just taking any old job? What kind of job can he get that will pay him at least 20 thousand a month? People may call him a deadbeat and lazy but he could work 7 days a week 24 hours a day and not make that kind of money anywhere but in the entertainment business. Isn't that why Kate has to take gigs like DWTS? Jon is not allowed to work in the entertainment business for anyone but TLC and they aren't putting him in any shows. So what do people want him to do? Kate knowing this still makes him look like a loser. This is the father of her children!! Doesn't she realize that at some point in their lives they will find out what she did to their dad and hate her for it? Is there no justice in this world? I hope to God that Jon finally has someone that can help him out of this impossible mess.

chesterctymom said...

Minka's Tail said...

"Already, every working mom is rallying behind Kate.
It's over for him. Any residual sympathy will be gone. He chose the wrong battle to pick. I feel sorry for him, really. He has a good point, but he is so inarticulate and stupid, and she is so shrewd and manipulative that he just can't compete. Her image just had a 100% turnaround. I bet you never hear another story about what a horror she is, (like in today's US magazine.)"

I can speak for myself and the other 'working moms' that I know...we agree with Jon 100%. Women don't blindly follow the pack because of gender. Kart is a mean, selfish person and it seems like karma is catching up. Go Jon, do your best for the kids...

wramblinwreck said...

Charlie Rose said:
"Why oh why do we keep hearing about their private life?"
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Because their private lives are their only claim to fame. They sold their lives to a reality show and became famous. Now that's all they have to attract media attention. They have no talent, no accomplishments, so they continue to do the only thing they know how to do to keep people reading and talking about them. And it works.

wramblinwreck said...

"...does anyone think Kate and TLC put Jon up to stirring up trouble for her to keep ABC's ratings high on DWTS and to get the pity vote for her?"
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[Raises hand.] I think it's very possible. I also think it's possible that Kate would use this as an excuse to leave DWTS, to avoid being voted off. She also has a book tour coming up, so playing the pity card will work for exiting the show ("poor me, I can't possibly concentrate on dancing now!"), and pulling in the sheeple to her book tour appearances ("poor me, forced to deal with all these tiresome fans just to keep my kids from starving!").

These two have nothing but the created drama in their lives to gain media attention. They're fame whores who will do anything to keep the gravy train going.

JonCanBeSoWrong said...

After the "Toys R Us" screaming fit, Jon said, "I know you're a better person than this . . . "

ughugh said...

Actually two new shows for Kate: Twist of Kate (sounds like a real winner) Kate giving advice to her millions of fans and admirers on life; and of course Kate+8 (yep kids are going to be filmed again).

Penny said...

My heart says those children need to be with their dad because he does love and care for them. My head says he's a money-grubbing you know what and he's jealous of Khate's "fame" and he's just trying to hurt her.

I hope my heart is right.

Ella's Mum said...

How can she still play the victim? She has $20k a month from Jon, a new book, $200k from DWTS ,2 new realisty shows yet she still crys and says basically I'm a single mother providing for my kids. What kind of world does she live in the $20k a month isn't enough?

I have a feeling though Jon, yet again is gonna lose this one.

Has anyone else heard about the 2 new shoes?

Twist of Kate!! More like Kate is Twisted!

thunderbird said...

I can't believe the bashing Jon is getting over seeking custody, it boggles the mind! All these shows like Nancy Grace, Showbiz Tonight, etc. treating him like he's the Anti-Christ just because he's finally standing up for his rights---what is the matter with these people?!?!

I hope Jon's new lawyer gets him what he wants. The man was on Nancy Grace last night and she was very rude to him IMO. I had to turn to another channel, she was making me sick.

Cry Me a River said...

Jon was not there to pick the kids up because he has to have her permission to do that and she is deliberately trying to make him look bad to continue to milk sympathy. She is such a charity case. I am glad the truth comes out about the child support. She had no intention of anyone ever knowing that she was collecting enough child support to live well off of alone.

I am letting Nancy Grace know that I never intend to watch her show again after having been an avid fan for years. Those headlines were just over the top. She has done absolutely no research on any of this and has jumped on the Kate bandwagon for no apparent reason.

I am sick of this evil person getting all good things come her way and lying through her teeth and having people believe her on face value.

And now she has 2 shows on TLC coming up, one of which will require travel and then if she goes on tour with the book (1 million for that so definitely she will go on tour) and then maybe DWTS. She is beyond trying to provide for her family, she is getting all the money she needs for that from Jon and will not even let him stay w/ the kids while she is away and then hems and haws on the View--sigh--he is there when he is there.

And everyone is saying Jon should go back to being a tech. How in the hell is he supposed to pay that greedy b*&(** $21,000 a month doing that?

She is Evil...your name is so befitting of her. The devil's spawn has to be.

Cry Me a River said...

I think those idiots signed a contract wherein they do not get residuals from the show or sales of memorabilia. The new reality stars are raking in millions literally, as will Kate be soon and she is just trying to totally emasculate the father of her kids..ugly, ugly person who does not deserve those adorable kids.

silimom said...

DDBC said....

So why wasn't Jon there picking them up?
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Because Kate is the primary custodial parent and she determines the visitation schedule. If she says Jon can't pick them up because it's her custodial time, then he can't pick them up.

It's one of the issues I have with everyone saying "He was away from the kids more than Kate! He chose to be with his girlfriends!"

To the best of my knowledge, Jon has pretty much been there for the kids when it's been his custody time. We saw him there post divorce in January, February and March. Again, Kate determines the schedule and this is one of the reasons Jon is filing - Kate is not abiding by their custody arrangement. And now that he's filed, there's no way on earth she's going to give him more time until this goes to court.

wpa said...

Kate Gosselin returning to TLC with new series
Published: 4/8/10, 10:25 AM EDT

NEW YORK (AP) - Kate Gosselin is launching a series that will profile everyday women facing personal challenges.

"Twist of Kate" will follow the reality star and supermom as she visits the homes and workplaces of her subjects, where she will exchange insights for living. The 12-episode season will premiere in late summer, the TLC network said Thursday.

The single mother of young twins and sextuplets, Gosselin will also revisit her family life for a series of "Kate Plus 8" specials beginning in June.

Kate and her then-husband Jon starred for several seasons in the hit reality series "Jon & Kate Plus 8," which collapsed last fall as the couple's marriage fell apart.

This week, Jon Gosselin sued his ex-wife for primary custody of their eight children.

Gosselin's attorney, Anthony List, has previously accused Kate Gosselin of neglecting the children because she appears on ABC's "Dancing With the Stars," a charge her attorney rejected as "patently false."

mamaK said...

Minka's Tail said...
Already, every working mom is rallying behind Kate. I can't think of a more politically incorrect position to take on Jon's part.

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I have to disagree with you on this. If I were "desperate" and "had" to embarrass myself on DWTS in order to get money, I think I would be open to money saving opportunities. Like weighing the cost of hiring five nannies to watch my kids while I am thousands of miles away verses having my ex do it. This is not like a "normal" working mom situation. I think a "normal" working mom would enjoy the fact that she didn't have to pay an arm and a leg for child care.
Also, this is just Kate working to shut Jon out and command control over their life and assets. She acts like he died, and keeps him away from his children. How is that in their best interests? They should be in a modest home with their dad who wants to be with them daily and let her go off and do her travel/be famous thing.
A child's relationship with their father is very important and no one should do anything to come between that unless there is a question of safety. IMO

I dont get it said...

IDModo said...
According to ROL, the new show is called "Twist of Kate" and it looks like some sort of advice show for her sheeple.
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I'll bet babymama just peed herself in excitement.

Lynda said...

The kids were picked up at the bus by the nanny yesterday. How sad do these kids look?! For those that say the kids aren't hearing about this in school, well, the picture kind of tells a different story. How can they avoid hearing about it when it's all over the news and the tabloids. Shame on both Jon & Kate for putting these guys in the middle - and all for publicity IMO. Not a good situation for these poor kids. Why doesn't someone step in to help? PA Mom Knows, can you shed any light on this situation?

http://tinyurl.com/yh4m2bu

write a book Jon said...

Nancy DISgrace is a narcissist just like Kate Gosselin. She rarely lets her guest speak, barks orders at them, she is a disgusting wench. I only tuned in because I thought she might have an update on the Anthony case (which she also drove into the ground) but she was doing what everyone else was doing to get ratings....the Gosselin effect. Hmm, kind of reminds you Fri-Mon. when their J and K show was on.
Nancy Grace is a liar and a disgrace to truth telling. Diamond earrings? She should watch her tape from the last time Jon corrected her on her own show.
I think Nancy is protective of Kate because they are two peas in a pod..... I feel sorry for the children of all these women. Narcissists have normal, even superior, intellectual development while remaining emotionally and morally immature. Dealing with them can give you the sense of trying to have a reasonable discussion with a very clever six-year-old
Jon's problem was Michael Lohan suggested everyone, I wonder sometimes if Lohan or Kate Major didn't work for TLC.

Tami said...

Twist of Kate is a stupid name for a stupid concept of a show. And notice that the one about her going around flipping pancakes and doing other jobs is out the window. Probably this was thrown out from all the critcism they read about it. Plus it was just another ripoff show like they ripped off Hoarders and Intervention.

2 shows? They are desperate to make some money off her after all they had to put into her! I hope Jon can stop the kids from being filmed.

He allowed them to film as part of his settlement, but that doesn't necessarily mean they were given permission to keep doing if forever even if he objected. She is a sicko to keep using those kids with all that is going on in their lives and anyone who enjoys watching it is also a sicko. Sheeple were saying oh yay our children from another mother are coming back.

They sure are trying to make her look successful, but I have to wonder if even sheeple would be interested in that awful concept they came up with. I hope it tanks. Unbelievable.

Can't See Sheep said...

cherios said...

TLC is making Jon appear as a deadbeat Dad because he can't work for anyone else but them for money...
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Uh, I don't think that's true. TLC is blocking Jon from appearing on TV that doesn't mean he can't work. This guy is not an actor and has not talent. I don't WANT him on my TV. There are plenty of real jobs out there he could do, but both Kate and him seem to think they're too fabulous to work.
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I'm sorry, but it is true. The following was cut & pasted directly from the court document posted over on TMZ where anyone can read it. I take it as saying Jon is not to work for anyone other than TLC or kate does not get paid.

"16. Defendant received certain payments from TLC television network through a
contractual agreement. Said agreement was contingent upon Plaintiff not rendering services to any person, company or entity other than TLC through the term of the contract."

check your tabloid dates said...

The day Kate showcased her bikini body was the day Hailey, her mother and Jon were snapped by the tabloids. Of 'course, it was mentioned by the tabs about Kate rocking the bikinis (Oh Lordy be, did she pose)who did her tummy tuck...I always wondered if that wasn't planned by Kate and Dr. Glassman for a freebie boob job. He gets the free advertising and so does she in so many ways. Just bizarre. Sleazy Hailey would do anything for money and attention. How do we know if Kate and Hailey didn't already know each other? It is not like Kate doesn't lie all the time.
TLC would do anything to keep control over those kids and Jon. They already control Kate, no problem. $$$$ rules everything.

Can't See Sheep said...

Riley said...
Kate Gosselin will show her life as a single mother in Twist of Kate, a forthcoming TLC show that will begin with a 12-episode run this summer.
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So both shows are going to push her as a single mom??? Which is something she's not, she's a co-parnet, well, she would be if she let Jon see the kids. I really hope that TLC isn't able to keep the lid on the truth with this court case.

ToxicKate said...
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-06-07/kate-gosselins-top-10-angry-moments/full/
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Holy smokes, I feel like I need to give my body some kind of cleansing flush treatment to get her toxic slick off of me after watching that & I didn't even watch all of them. What a hateful, hurtful, nasty, money grubbing, famewhoring beast she is.

GoPoshGo said...

"Still, Kate says, [snipped] 'I never understood the importance of fans until we struggled and went through tough times.'"


This quote is just further evidence of her insanity and narcissism. Any normal person would realize the importance of *family* and *friends* after they've "struggled and gone through tough times." Not Kate; apparently her support system is a bunch of strangers whom she's never actually met. Exactly what role did the Sheeple play in helping the family through the past couple years???? Fan mail? Attending book signings? Voting for her on DWTS???

This woman is insane.

Dunwoody Mom said...

Already, every working mom is rallying behind Kate.

LOL - I don't think so. Most "working Moms" cannot relate to this idiot at all. Most "working Moms" don't leave their children for weeks or months at a time.

liz123 said...

I just read on E! online that Khate will be getting another show on TLC.. I'm starting to lose hope that we will ever get rid of her on TV.

zoey said...

Can Jon please write a book about how corporate Green bought and sold his kids. it would be a real eye opener for future idiots who think their kids should be on a reality show.

sstupidisasstupiddoes said...

Minka's Tail said...
Already, every working mom is rallying behind Kate. I can't think of a more politically incorrect position to take on Jon's part.

Seriously, EVERY 'working mom' is rallying behind Kate? I know many a 'working mom' and most could care less about the goings on of Kate Gosselin and definitely do NOT include 'rallying behind' Kate Gosselin on their list of politically CORRECT causes to support!!

Sugar Booger said...

I am a single mom. My ex has no visitation rights because he is unstable and unsafe. While I work, they stay with babysitters. What I wouldn't give to ba able to share parenting duties with someone like Jon! I could know that when I cannot be with them, my children are with another individual who loves them and has as much vested interest in them growing up to be compassionate, successful adults as I do. Aside from being at work, my children are always with me... No pedicures, no hair extensions, no tanning for me... I barely have time to read a book! So Kate, this single mother is disgusted by you...

maggie said...

Why or why did Jon go public with this in the first place? I think 90% of the public hates him; I am sorry but that is the truth.

Why or why did Jon's attorney go on Nancy Grace's show last night? Last night Nancy was so pro-Kate and so anti-Jon. Please Mr. Anthony List, do not ever again appear on Nancy's show again. She is only interested in making a fool of both you and Jon. Stay away!

Remember Kate's comment a mere few days ago: If she was financially set she would love to stay home and bake cookies. Well, Mr. List said last night on Nancy Grace's show that Kate receives $100,000 every month from TLC since their show got cancelled. And is still receiving the $100,000 every month. And Jon is paying her $21,000 per month in support. And her 1.2 million home is paid for. And she has a new book coming out in May. And she has 2 new TLC shows coming out in a few months.

Again, Kate is a multi-millionaire. Holy cow! Why doesn't someone ask her about this? She didn't HAVE to go work on DWTS. She did it for the fame and fortune-not the paycheck. We know she is receiving at bare minimum $121,000 per month. That doesn't include DWTS & book income. And she has 2 new tv shows coming out. I don't know if she will receive additional monies from TLC for the 2 shows or if the $100,000 a month is payment for those shows. Either way she has a fixed income of a minimum of a $1,452,000 a year plus book income & DWTS income. And her home is paid for.

Again, she is a liar. Why doesn't the media confront her on this. If she wants to work in the entertainment industry and travel for her new show, she needs to admit she is doing it because she enjoys it and NOT because she needs the work to take care of her children.

Remember in her People magazine article in January 2010, she said her kids are in need "of major counseling" and would be starting counseling in February. How sad that with her huge income she chose to be away from her kids during this time with DWTS instead of being home with them when they needed her the most. And then to top it for, not let their father be with them instead of nannies.

SafetyTrain said...

Kate's shows will be short-lived now that people are on to what a talentless, opportunistic bitch she is (thanks, DWTS). The one where she visits her "fans" and tries to learn from them? Ha! Kate's shown over and over again that she doesn't know how to be empathetic. She also has the attention span of a gnat and, despite constant coaching, always falls back into her cranky, self-centered, delusional lalaland. No doubt we'll just see her squeal inappropriately, be dismissive of people's problems, gush about her own, talk incessantly about the p-people, and flirt with the camera(men). Her act gets seriously boring after a while.

The Big Wooden Spoon said...

Tami said...
Twist of Kate is a stupid name for a stupid concept
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That must have been a typo! Surely they meant to call it "twistED Kate"!

Jane in CA said...

First of all, Nancy Grace is almost as awful a person as Kate, so naturally she'd defend Kate's actions. I personally never waste a moment of my precious life on that show or that shrew.

As to "all the working moms" being in Kate's corner, you can mark me down as a single working mom who isn't. Why do people think women as a whole are stupid? We're not. Working moms especially have to deal with the nitty gritty of life and most of us can spot a phony a mile away. Kate may be fooling a certain low-intelligence sort of person (i.e., sheeple), but she's not fooling any real downhome moms one bit.

Her stint on DWTS has shown a whole new segment of the population just how unlikable she is. I guarantee she's not winning over any converts. Most working moms work hard to balance job and family, always wishing we could give more time to our children. Even that idiot Sherry Shepard says she'd love to do DWTS but she can't spend that sort of time away from her child. Yet she doesn't see that Kate has no desire to be with her kids and welcomes any opportunity to be in the spotlight and away from them.

It sounds like Jon has a good attorney now. At the very least, I hope his attorney can get a custodial agreement that does not give Kate the control over when and how often Jon sees his own children. I hope a more equitable amount of child support is figured out. I think there is slim chance of Jon getting full custody, but he should get 50% custody, and also the right of first refusal for any time Kate will be away from home and will need someone else to be with the children. If Jon at least gets those things, he and the children will be much better off.

Kate will continue to stay in the public eye for some time to come but she is universally despised. You cannot make a silk purse out of sow's ear. Now some people will spend good money on such a piece of trash and that's their problem. But eventually the thrill will wear off for most and TLC will dump Kate like the piece of garbage she is and go on to exploit someone new.

Twisted Kate said...

Maybe this belongs in another thread, but I just read that Kate will premier "Twist of Kate" in the summer. It sounds like the Kate Gosselin version of The Simple Life with Paris and Nicole. Gag!

First of all...that kind of material is what late night talk show hosts live for. TLC is setting her up big time to be a laughing stock.

Second, she'll be traveling the country ...so that stay at home with the kids excuse for continuing a reality show is, once again, complete BS.

Third, Kate will have to pretend to care about people and their lives and jobs when she goes out to walk a mile in their shoes. I just can't picture it. "Workers". Not people Kate associates well with.

silimom said...

If it is true, and Kate is getting $100,000 a month, then I hope that she is putting $10 - 12,000 a month away into accounts for the kids, as by my reckoning that's their cut of the J&K+8 contract.

I doubt it, however.

As for A Twist of Kate - How wonderful of TLC to do a whole show based around embarrassing Kate! Because you know that's what's going to happen the minute she tries to do someone else's job. She'll be whining and complaining and rolling her eyes. And then her advice will be "You really should just go have IUI and get TLC to give you a show! That worked for me!"

OOOOOOO!!!! I KNOW!!!! Let her go take over for the Kirton's in Murray Utah. They were featured in a Figure 8 documentary entitled "Autism x 6". All of their children have autism to varying degrees. YES! I want to see Kate handle THAT situation!

Sorry Robin and John - I shouldn't wish her on anyone but I just know she couldn't do what you two do everyday with the dignity and grace and love you have and I'd like people to see the contrast.

Kate serves only one person said...

Sugar Booger, you're one of the real heroes out there! Thank you for your comment, including "What I wouldn't give to be able to share parenting duties with someone like Jon! I could know that when I cannot be with them, my children are with another individual who loves them and has as much vested interest in them growing up to be compassionate, successful adults as I do."

I take care of my ailing, elderly mom with no back-up except my own uncomplaining and generous husband. But I got hurt recently and am laid-up, so he's having to do everything in my place now (and also for her), PLUS work two back-to-back jobs that often tie him up away from home for a 16-hour day. My life would be impossible right now if not for him. I'm one of the lucky ones.

So, agreed...what a shame that Kate can't co-parent with Jon in an agreeable way on behalf of their kids but also help each other at the same time. What a wasted opportunity...and the biggest losers are the children. The eight Gosselins always bring up the rear.

anotherthing... said...

A new freaking show? More accuratly: a new freakshow???? Is this somenes idea of a joke?

Let me get this straight:

Jon sue for primary custody saying that kart is an absentee mother and abuses her role as deciding visitation etc. And some fame-w**** over at TLC decides that somehow THAT creates perfect timing to announce her new show?

The court docs splashd across the net make Kart look negative. Her appearance on DWTS is laughable.

And NOW is the time to plug her new train-wreck show?

That seems to indicate that the whole 'any attention is good attention' attitude has completely over ridden common sense.

Now. On to this new show:

WHY do people want to watch kart do anything, muchless 'offer insights'???

What 'insight' could she possibly offer to any situation?????:

"Oh, just tell your bodyguard to do that."

"EW. Divorce your husband. He breaths loud."

"Gross, your poor. Get fertility treatments then collect at churches."

"Oh-no... you dont have to do what you say, or even believe it... it doesnt have to even be true... its just for show. THATS the proper way to raise kids."

This show will certainly help her stay home with the kids more and its a great way for them all to be together... you know which is why they did the 1st show.....

Also... it is the only way they can pay the bills.... which i why they did the 1st show.... ($20k/month in child support doesnt seem to cover it.... nor does the contract their still uncer with TLC??? or how about what they made fromt he 1st show??? NO???)

It has nothing to do with her being a fame-w****.... no... nothing at all....

I say it tanks halfway thru the trial season.

What horribe, nasty, offensive person she is.

I hope karma is on its way....

(sorry for the rant)

MabelD said...

Washington Post article on Kate's new show:

Kate Gosselin to help "challenged" families on TLC. Seriously.

TLC announced Thursday it has greenlit a series in which Kate Gosselin will give life-assistance to "real families in the middle of their own extraordinary challenges" after walking a mile in their shoes, another series in which Nic Cage will give financial advice to real families in the middle of their own extraordinary challenges after walking a mile with their credit cards, and a third series in which Angelina Jolie will give relationship advice to real couples in the middle of their own extraordinary challenges after walking a mile in the wife's shoes with the husband in tow.

Okay, I made those last two up. But "Twist of Kate" is for real. America's Most Put Upon Mom is returning to the Silver Spring, Md. cable network that first foisted the mother of eight on an unsuspecting public in the spring of 2007 with "Jon & Kate Plus 8."

(snip)

In each episode, Kate will walk a mile in someone else's shoes - try out their jobs, see how their home life runs, find out what they do to let off steam, and "roll up her sleeves and see what she can do to help," the network said.

With a straight face.

Our money's on Kate finding a way to make it all about her, and won't it be fun to see how she winds the story around to her very very difficult life each episode, like she is doing so brilliantly right now on ABC's "Dancing with the Stars" as she paso dobles to the Lady Gaga tune "Paparazzi," and dances the jive to Elton John's "I'm Still Standing." I see a very promising "Twist of Kate" drinking game in our future. You'll just have time to stock the home bar -- "Twist/Kate" is debuting this summer.

more…
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/tvblog/2010/04/kate-gosselin-to-help-challeng.html

amanda said...

This "family" makes me feel SO sad. And I don't really get it because I don't know them and they are really just a reality show concoction. I hate Kate, have been disappointed by Jon in the past, think their divorce arrangement sucks, and I hurt for the children. How is it that an evil woman, like Kate, would end up on top in this situation? All I can put my faith in is the idea of karma-- some day, she is gonna get hers.

sre said...

I swear I am to the point that Jon could be a stripper at a club at night after the kids go to bed, if he could be there for them when not in school.
I am soooo sick of KATE KATE KATE....can we get a class action lawsuit against her for mental anguish??
WHERE are the other family - why don't they try to get custody??

I refuse to believe those poor kids are OK...my gosh someone helo them!

GoPoshGo said...

So, after all these months, the best projects TLC could come up with for Kate are "Meet the Sheeple" and "Child Exploitation, Part II"???

According to one artcle I read, "Twist of Kate" will feature Kate responding to fans' letters, as well as visiting their families and trying out their jobs. WTF???? Seriously. W.T.F.?? What kind of a mishmash of a show concept is that? I suppose this confirms once and for all that Kate really Can't-Do, and TLC just needs a forum for her to suck in the ratings for them.

So, do you think Baby Mama has begun her letter-writing campaign in a desperate effort to get on the show? ... I imagine the second she found out about "Twist" she began frantically scribbling letter after letter, gulping and splashing kool-aid all over herself: "Pick me, Kate! Come visit meEEEEEEEEEE!! I'm your best-est fan. And, you'd LOVE to do my job, since one of its primary tasks involves incessant Jon-bashing."

im gonna vomit said...

from dlisted.com (caution... language may be a bit um colorful):

"Once Kate Gosselin finishes terrorizing millions with her zombie dance of doom on Dancing with the Never-Wases, she will return to TLC in not one but two new projects. The shiny sparkle on this butt nugget is that Jon Grosselin is not in either show. ...

USA Today brings us the news that Kate will star in the vommy titled show Twist of Kate. It gets worse. Kate will travel the country (TO THE SAFE HOUSE!!!) and visit the homes and workplaces of everyday people to walk a mile "in their shoes."

Does Kate take requests? Because I think we would all like to see her in the shoes of a pirate who is about to walk the plank. Or the shoes of a steak about to be thrown into the lion cage at the zoo (don't tell Kate that steaks don't wear shoes). ...

Kate had this to say about her new show, "I want to be out there learning from others, helping to provide insight whenever I can, though I don't consider myself an expert on anything."

In addition to Twist of Kate, she will also co-star in a series of Kate Plus 8 specials with the child army.

Twist of Kate will debut on TLC in the Summer along with Sarah Palin's Alaska. So if you ever want to know what it feels like to laugh, cry and dry heave at the exact same time just turn on TLC in the Summer."

Midwest Teacher said...

I personally know someone with narcissistic behavior and has two young children. If her marriage ever failed I know she'd use her children as leverage against her husband as well. Women like this really disgust me. Kate sees her children as objects or things, or actually in this case "assets". They're not people, but things to control and use to suit her life. I only hope a judge will make the divorce agreements better protect the kids.

As for the the new shows. I can't imagine any woman needing or going to Kate Gosselin for advice on how to live their life, IMO. What a joke! She has no empathy for anyone. It will be interesting to see how Kate makes every episode about herself. We know she will!

Charlie Rose said...

So instead of focusing on Kate's new show, shouldn't the media be SLAMMING her for lying once again that she needs to work to support her children when ALL along she had these two shows lined up?

I don't get it. She once again has lied to gain sympathy.

Pure evil, through and through.

gosselin free said...

Jon just needs to get back at Kate and TLC by getting a job...Dude, go to work. Anywhere. Get a job...then Miss Katie Irene can not get paid....but you can! Ta Da!! Can't you see that Jon? GO TO WORK let Kate know how it feels to have her hands tied.

Tami said...

Minka's Tail, I don't believe that at all. This is a unique situation. It can't be compared to a regular working mom. For one thing, Kate does NOT work! She shuns work! She uses her children and always has. Anyone with a brain seeing the situation (and I know that is a stretch because look at all the sheeple out there even on tv) would see that it is different because she is keeping their dad from them and telling huge lies about her life. No one except a very rich, spoiled person who only cares about material objects would look at the money she is receiving per month and say yes, she needs to go get some more money and NEEDS to keep living a lavish lifestyle she can't afford. So I would give at least some of the viewing audience more credit. She does not need so much more money that she has keep chasing fame at all costs. She needs to get her kids together with their dad most of all and use the nannies as little as possible. She needs to abide by the orders of the court or Jon needs to change them. I have been a single working parent in the past and it was nothing at all like what is going on with her, and it is not like that with most other women either. So really, I don't think many can relate to her. I feel most women supporting her are not really single working moms at all but immature little girls and bitter man haters. I am normally for moms getting primary custody, but obviously it is not always the best thing for the kids. Just look at the Gosselins.

JJ inWA said...

I went ahead to April 13 on my dvr and the information for the View says:
"Author Kate Gosselin ('I Just Want You to Know'); actor Rico Rodriguez ('Modern Family')' guest co-host Joan Rivers"

I am thinking that this interview may be pre-taped because I don't know if Kate would chance being in the same room as Joan Rivers-but would love to see it! She might be the one to say what she thinks.

Minka's tail said...

Uh, I don't think that's true. TLC is blocking Jon from appearing on TV that doesn't mean he can't work. This guy is not an actor and has not talent. I don't WANT him on my TV. There are plenty of real jobs out there he could do, but both Kate and him seem to think they're too fabulous to work.
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I have to defend both Jon and Kate on one point. In this economy, it is very hard to get a job other than the last one you had. When I lost my teaching job and had trouble getting another, I tried to find office work or lab work, both of which I had experience in several years ago. I didn't even get an interview. Fortunately, I finally got another teaching job.

But enough about me.Anyway, my point is that it is not likely that Kate would be an attractive nursing candidate, or Jon an attractive computer candidate. Their best shot at working is on another reality show, sadly. Kate portrays working on television as her only option to support her kids, and to an extent, I believe she is correct. Yeah, she's a narcissist and a famaholic, but with hospitals closing all over the place, I doubt she'd get a nursing job after not doing it for so long, even if she wasn't infamous.

What's horrible is that Jon is prevented from working at the only job he is likely to get, then is portrayed as someone who refuses to work. But I'm hardly the only person here to bring that up:)

Amanda, Iowa said...

This working mom is absolutely not behind Kate. I work late and night shifts at the ICU of our local hospital.
I like nighttime and it gives me al the time to be with my kids during the day! Perfect!

Minka's Tail said...

Minka's Tail said...
Already, every working mom is rallying behind Kate. I can't think of a more politically incorrect position to take on Jon's part.
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Let me rephrase that.
Obviously, regular working mothers won't rally behind her much. They are too busy working and taking care of the kids, two things Kate doesn't actually do.

But the "working moms" who work for media aimed at women will certainly join "Team Kate" as Lis Wiehl did last night on Access Hollywood and Nancy Grace apparently did. This branch of the media is not kind to men who sue for custody based on their wives' work schedules. Google "Gina Ocon" or "Marcia Clark's Ex-husband" and see what the media said. I think there was even a Lifetime movie about the Ocon case, who wanted to take her daughter to Harvard, 3000 miles from her father. In both cases, the women were portrayed as victims and Ocon was represented by feminist attorney Gloria Allred.

Jon did something incredibly stupid. If he had sued for custody the day after she smacked one of the kids in front of a photographer, he probably would have won. She would have had to defend corporal punishment, and the left-leaning media would want nothing to do with that. Instead, he waits until she gets a showy job. Now she gets to defend a mom's right to work--a cause hundreds of famous moms will join her in. They don't know the whole story of their divorce, rumors of affairs with the bodyguard, etc. They'll see a woman being criticized for working and react from there.

Except for the people on this board, I'd be surprised if anyone takes his side. I hope they do, but I don't see it happening.

MickeyMcKean said...

According to THE VIEW's schedule:

The View
Tuesday, April 13, 11/10c

Author Kate Gosselin ("I Just Want You to Know"); actor Rico Rodriguez ("Modern Family"); guest co-host Joan Rivers.


Ya know, it might be interesting to have Kate on as a guest that day if Joan is a guest co-host ...

Anonymous said...

If Khart cant be with the kids...the dad should get the opportunity....long before Nannies. What judge wont see that?

debbiejo said...

Mickey McCean said:

* Someone said Kate is already scheduled on The View on April 13

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And she is scheduled Tuesday to be on The Today Show.

Jenny said...

I think most of those single working moms K8 thinks she represents are out there working 8 to 10 hours a day, coming home to cook dinner themselves, helping their kids with homework & hearing about their day...then taking whatever is left of their day to throw in a load of laundry, clean the kitchen and get their head ready to hit the ground running first thing in the morning.

What an insult to every hard working, loving single mom that this very wealthy woman pretends that she can relate to them what with her paid-for nannies, million dollar bank account and a rich tv network paying for her every wish! Memo to Kate: Time for a reality check! But we all know you'll hang in there milking your fans for all they're worth...er, I mean appreciating your fans because you had an epiphany of how important they are to you. Important to your bank account!

I try to take a break from this whole situation sometimes because it gets me so riled up seeing such a dishonest, selfish person getting rewarded. But she seems to pop up everywhere I go online and when I see her I get mad all over again that she's continuing to be successful in pulling the wool over so many people's eyes. I'm so glad summer is coming up so I can be busier and get my mind on other things.

And btw, I think someone posted that Jon's contract with TLC runs out in May? If that's the case, maybe he won't have that big check coming in every month and that's partially why he's asking the court to revisit his child support payments? That, along with the fact K8 is able to keep him from his children merely due to an arbitrator's recommendation (signed off on by the judge!) I think it's good timing and I wish him & his new lawyer well.

debbiejo said...

Twisted Khart told the paper:

"The fact that people really support me and want the kids and I to do well... is flattering," she told the paper. "I never understood the importance of fans until we struggled and went through tough times."

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Guess what Khart? When the rest of us struggle or go through tough times, we dont have "fans" who support us....we just "get through it" with ourselves and in many cases, our faith.

Guess what? Sometime we struggle alone and WE are our only fan! Sometimes "Working moms" have no one but themselves to "cheer them on".

My hat is off to THOSE kinds of moms..........not moms who need "fans".

Gag me with a dancing shoe

she is evil said...

What is politically incorrect about a father wanting equal time with his kids? Or wanting an equitable child support schedule? Or wanting the mother of his kids not to neglect them when it's her turn with them? No way will single moms rally behind Kate. She represents no one that I know or would care to know. Godspeed, Jon

she is evil said...

Instead of vilifying Jon, Kate should be thankful for and generous with Jon. She should be singing his praises as a dad and alloqing extra time with the kids. No one would care if she did dwts if they knew the kids were woth their dad. As a divorced woman with kids, I am so happy my ex loves our kids enough to have them at his place half of the time, to split driving duties with me, etc. The rest is immaterial. The important thing is that the kids are loved by us both. It makes me wonder how Kate can claim to love those kids when all she does proves otherwise.

RNmom2six said...

Minka's Tail said...
Already, every working mom is rallying behind Kate. I can't think of a more politically incorrect position to take on Jon's part.
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Ummm don't think so or agree. I was at a Nursing Conference today and one of the speakers mentioned the perception of RNs in the media and what a shame someone who is so clueless about child growth & development has an RN license (in reference to Kate).

I do not hear anyone at work supporting her side. Everyone feels that she should go home to her kids or give Jon time to be with them when she is gone.

She needs to make a choice. Money is clearly NOT lacking in her bank accounts so either stay home and be there for them OR let their father be the primary caregiver.

Jon may have made bad choices but he is clearly a loving father and the children NEED a parent present in their lives. Especially while going through the trauma of this nasty divorce and the continued filming of their lives.

I hope the judge treats this as any other couple disagreeing over custody issues and requires parenting classes, therapy for the children and reasonable custody for each parent.

Jacobi said...

When I first heard the title of "Twist of Kate," I thought I had heard "Twisted Kate."

Now THAT'S a good title!

(too bad there has to be a show to go with it)

Kat said...

http://ca.tv.yahoo.com/news/article/tv-news.en.ap.org/tv-news.en.ap.org-20100408-us_tv_kate_gosselin

enoughalready said...

Kaart & her shows, schedules, and more air time - there is NO God!!

Kitty The Dog's Blog said...

cant see sheep said: Sorry, but purposely keeping daddy away is abusive.


Its also part of Parental Alienation Syndrom ive been telling you about - look it up and the type of women who perpetrate this are just like Khate. Judges DO NOT like it when mom's keep children from their fathers. I've mentioned it before, but its one of the MANY reasons my husband has SOLE custody of his son from a previous relationship.

ALSO, as an aside, here in Texas, the parent with primary custody has all the same rights as the other parent except for 4 specific thing: 1, the right to consent to marriage of the child, 2, the right to consent to the child joining the armed forces, 3, the right to determine the child's primary residence, and here's the kicker, 4, THE RIGHT TO THE EARNINGS OF THE CHILD(REN)! Does anyone know if this stipulation exists in PA?

Sabreena said...

Last night on Nancy grace Jon's lawyer, Mr. List, said that Kate receives $100,000 per MONTH from TLC. Now, why is it that she needs to be on DWTS and cannot be a stay-at-home mom? Didn't she say it's because she is not financially set? Give me a break!

MomIAm said...

Minka's Tail said...

"Already, every working mom is rallying behind Kate."

She isn't a role model for working moms. I'm more on Jon's side. If she is traveling all the time, why shouldn't the kids be with him?

the much-pitied Gosselin kids said...

The headlines say Kate will be "traveling the country" for one of those two new TLC shows. Does this mean she can manipulate the custody arrangements to suit her? Doesn't seem right...is Jon her puppet? I don't know anything about child custody cases. Are there many sole-parent families where the sole parent is also absentee and that's okay as long as the children are in another responsible adult's keeping? Does this happen all the time, except when the non-custodial parent takes issue with it? I never realized how vulnerable children are in this kind of scenario although I've read through the years about how wealthy people will often park their kids in boarding schools. I thought rich kids were only raised by governesses and nannies in the Victorian age. I guess I have a lot yet to learn. Sure isn't how I'd want to be raising a kid. The kid's welfare and well-being would sure take precedence over my own. Kate always justifies her "ventures" and monetary pursuits as okay because, in the end, it IS for their welfare because she's putting bread on the table. Thing is, kids need more than bread on the table. They need you.

22Starz said...

This is insane!No one can stop this insanity but JON!

Jon you need to figure out if you'r really in this for the kids.If you are,be ready for a battle to end all.Jon,you need an attorney who's in it for you and the long haul.Kate wants fame...let her chase it.You want to be home with the kids...and you should be able to.What judge cant see this??You have all the proof you need.Years of video tape.Lots and lots of eye-witnesses.
You need to be very carefull from here on in who you talk to.Dont trust anyone you havent known for years...No new people.

Mr.List said kate gets 100 grand a month from TLC while Jon only gets 5 grand???Kate has a team of 4 lawyers while Jon sort'of had 1.I cant believe there isnt someone out there willing to help this man. .Its too bad he dosent have and entire corparation backing him the way TLC is backing kate.

So now kate gets 2 shows.The 1st one is a very "twisted"concept.And of course "special" shows of the kids being at home and going on "field trips"???PLS!! How many special shows get tapped once a week?
Whats so hard to see that kate WANTS to "work" for the fame she seeks...NOT because she has to!!

cubby1128 said...

I cannot stand to listen to Nancy Grace!! I wish for once someone with the media would defend Jon. His lawyer on Nancy Grace didn't defend him very well against Nancy Grace last night. I wish something would happen that would make Kate look so bad, a liar. I just wish something big would break in Jon's favor!

orange kitty said...

I haven't posted here in ages but I've continued to read even during the calm before this storm. It's late and I'm exhausted so I hope this makes sense.

I know its wishful thinking but I can't help but HOPE that Kate actually learns what empathy is while filming the Twist of Kate show. I won't set my hopes too high though.

I also hope that the kids come through this nightmare w/ as little trauma as possible. I can see why some will blame Jon for causing more strife and drama but if any MOTHER in the public eye basically gave their ex full custody without a fight most of us would be wondering what kind of mother does something like that...just gives up on their kids. Jon's finally fighting for them. I've never understood why men are expected to give up so much of their parenting rights and responsibilities when they divorce.
I bet that one day when they're older the kids will begin to understand what was done to them and how their childhood was stolen from them. Maybe now that Jon's trying to fight FOR THEM...not just the right to exploit them, they'll understand one day that he lovesd them and not just what they could do FOR them. Kate is going to be one LONELY old lady some day. good luck kids...you're gonna need it.

Squeakycart said...

Kate's sheeple are crazy. They are bored housewives on line all day pickering with each other or abused in their past lives. Nancy Grace is off on a Jon tangent. Why doesn't she pull out all the 1,000's of pics of Kate slapping Jon in the face? The big spoon in the car. The way she manhandled the kids, pulling them by the arm. Her putting her hand on the kids mouths so they won't speak, swatting the tup on the butt cuz she blew a whistle when mother dearest was on her pink phone. Every shot of them playing in the front yard as her personal photo op of her mothering time. They will not find a pic of Jon slapping Kate in the mouth. Berating them at the bus stop that they are lucky she showed up to pick them up. I hope Jon gets affidavits from all the nannies, cooks, of what Kate actually does or does not do for those children.

Pattypanda said...

Sugar Booger said...

I am a single mom...they stay with babysitters. Aside from being at work, my children are always with me... No pedicures, no hair extensions, no tanning for me... So Kate, this single mother is disgusted by you...

I understand you. I've never been a single mom, but I've worked and my parents babysat or kids were in daycare. When I had second child, I stayed home for a few years. I rarely went anywhere without my kids. We stayed home at night because we wanted to be with them. We had regular family movie nights. When I worked, I came home made dinner, played with my son, bathed him, put him to bed. After that I cleaned the kitchen, laundry etc. (Hubby was working lots of OT at the time.) I was happy being a devoted mother, now I can get my nails done and float in the pool and read a book or lunch with a friend. My children know they have always been my priority and the reward is being close to them as they grow into young adults. They will confide in me and realize mother is not always wrong in her advise.

Be proud of the job you are doing. Your children know.

SaNdY said...

I've watched J&K+8....I've read this blog since the start....I've read the articles about them in the tabloids, magazines, and on-line....someone in one of these threads stated it recently: 'these people (I use that term loosely) WILL NEVER GO AWAY!!!!' Last year, when the s**t hit the fan, all of us on here thought, 'good, it's going to end, the kids will no longer be filmed, etc' and here we go again....their antics WILL continue, it may die down a bit after this dust-up, but just you wait, it will start up again with another lawsuit, another TV show, another 'book' (again, I use the term loosely), another horrendously horrendous situation of some sort...they refuse to go away...and again, it's the kids that will suffer, just as they have been....

jojow said...

Why do people keep saying Jon should "get a job"? It sounds to me like he wants one: taking care of his 8 children.

Men are perfectly capable of being wonderful stay-at-home dads. And it is a respectable and important job. If Kate wanted to stay home and take care of the kids and live off Jon's money, no one would suggest she "get a job".

I agree with whoever said Kate should just give it up and stop the whole charade of trying to do it all. Let Jon care primarily for the kids while she earns the money. It's what she wants anyway: fame, fortune, time away from the kids. It's not as if she could never see the kids. She'd could see them just as much as before. The difference is Jon would be there when she is not.

I wouldn't behoove Jon a nanny helper either. 8 kids and that house is a lot for anyone. He would need someone if for no other reason to simply be there when he needs to take one or a few kids somewhere else: doctor, ball practice, etc.

Anji said...

I just wrote the following to good ole Ms. Grace after her off the tongue flip tonight. My comment is still awaiting moderation.... go figure. It read as follows:

Nancy, no you didn't just equate KG practicing dance moves, in her own damn home, to "boot camp"? OMG!!!!!!!! you have got to be kidding me! I guarantee you that the thirteen weeks my son spent last summer in Parris Island going thru USMC boot camp is vastly different then oh poor pitiful KG. and how dare you use the analysis of what our men and women go thru to defend this county to a dumbass dance routine.
I have been a very faithful viewer for years but this one thing out of your mouth hurt me to the core.

Wanna bet on if this get a clearance?

AJonFan said...

I just watched about 5 mins of the Nancy Grace show tonight and I wanted to throw something at my tv. She is so against Jon and she doesn't even know all the facts. Anytime a person would defend Jon she cut them off. She said that Jon couldn't handle the 8 kids daily. How about all the time Kate was one and he was the stay at home parent? Kate can only handle the kids because she is never home and she has around the clock nannies. She said that he probably doesn't even want custody he is just sueing so he can use the kids to lower the child support. Who needs that much monthly child support? Cut out all the extra things that aren't necessary. Kate says that she would be away from the kids this much if she was working as an RN. Really 24 hours a day for days on end is an RN's shift. I hope Jon is being true and really wants the kids. I hope Jon gets custody.

Mystical said...

Anji, I'm thanking you for posting that on the Nancy Grace site! She made the same ridiculous reference last night. Just today, Kate Gosselin told ET that she is practicing only 4 hours per day. Still, that's not the point.....the reference was painful to hear even if the hateful Kate was practicing 12 hours a day. I cannot stand how Nancy Grace is supporting Kate. It shows how incredibly clueless these talk show hosts & their guests really are.

Mystical said...

And, Nancy Grace showed her utter lack of judgment, research & even common sense, when she made a huge deal out of Jon's earring studs. She never said a word about the thousands of dollars Kate spends on her self, purely for vanity reasons. It was grueling to listen to that woman last night & tonight, so I am done with her show for good. I realized Nancy Grace does not do her research before speaking on any given subject or event. She runs on hot tempered emotions. And to think she supports the protection & welfare of innocent children. By the way, Nancy Grace also made derogatory comments about Jon taking their kids off Jon & Kate Plus 8!!

Tami said...

I just don't have the stomach for all this Jon bashing that is once again happening in the media. It's like watching extreme bullying in school and not being able to stop it. It is just so unfair and unjust. I hate that this bully always wins. When will there ever be justice? I think never.

No one seems to have a clue and they just spout off the same ridiculous BS fed to everyone from Khate's people. I'm pretty much turning the channel all the time or just turning off the TV. Just get her off the radar. I can't take it anymore. I have given up that the kids can be helped. At this point I just want the whole thing buried so it stops making me ill.

It sucks to know so few people have a brain or are capable of thinking. I wish I didn't always root for the underdog because this one is never going to win. Khate will never give up and is relentless. She will go to her grave still thinking she doesn't have enough stuff and will be one of those people who have their heads frozen in the hopes death can one day be cured and she can come back and get even more.

(crossing Nancy Grace off the list of shows I used to like once in a while)

Tami said...

Why do people keep saying Jon should "get a job"? It sounds to me like he wants one: taking care of his 8 children.

Men are perfectly capable of being wonderful stay-at-home dads. And it is a respectable and important job. If Kate wanted to stay home and take care of the kids and live off Jon's money, no one would suggest she "get a job".
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You know, this is the perfect solution. She can't stand being home with her kids and is dying to "work" and be in the limelight. She would go nuts if she suddenly had 10 million and could stay home. Plus, it would never be enough.

Jon IS a better parent and would rather be home. Nothing wrong with that. If she is truly the breadwinner she says she is, why hire nannies when Jon can just watch the kids? It makes no sense but America seems to think she should just get to go off and do anything she wants even when being handed everything she needs on a silver (or golden) platter.

He does not need to get a job. He just needs to be allowed to make raising his kids his career. Let her go make a fool of herself trying to be famous. Somewhere down the line I'm sure he'll work again. Until Khate has to go get a regular old job, why are they insisting he should?

Anonymous said...

Has anyone ever considered that all of this custody stuff is a publicity stunt? It comes out around the time that Kate's book is due and her two projects with TLC. TLC is probably remebering the ratings that they received for their divorce annnouncement. And Kate could care less about her dirty laundry being aired. It's money to her. They are famous for being a freak show. That is their only talent!!

Tami said...

It will be hilarious if this new show can't even get off the ground. They could be announcing it just because it will make her look like a real working mom even though we know she has been unemployed since last May. They sure got their previously unknown concept together in a hurry! It could not possibly be successful.

I wonder if having it in the summer means she plans to bring the kids with her. However, I assume she would be pre taping much of it before summer. Wonder how TLC will spin her kids being with nannies. Now that she will be at war with Jon it will get quite awkward when he has visitation. I can just see the ROL headlines now bashing him.

Another thing, I wish the View and the Today show would stop giving her a forum for her lies. How can she even be on the View on a Tuesday? Makes no sense unless she knows she is quitting DWTS. I will not watch her interviews on tv, online or even read about them. I can't even think of listening to that garbage. Who needs it? If Jon's contract is up, can't he start going on shows? I'm sure the hosts would just bash him anyway and he would not do well.

thunderbird said...

Nancy Grace's support of Kate and abuse of Jon makes me want to hurl. She's as big a bitch as Kate is and she's also playing the "mom card" in the same way, citing her great mothering moments. Whenever the subject turns to something about child welfare she has to bring up the twins and chat with callers about how much they love her & her kids, what a great mother she is, etc. They best mothers I know live it, they don't talk about it to anybody who will listen especially people they don't know and they don't expect constant praise for it.

Maybe these two could do a show together

Jenny said...

I just had a thought. I've assumed that K8 has been operating out of sheer resentment in not letting Jon be at the house with the kids...but I'm wondering if possibly she's wanted to keep him away because she feels he'll be a hindrance whenever TLC wants to film the kids for the new Kate+8 show. It's still a lousy reason but I hadn't thought of it before.

I forget where I heard it today (and maybe it's already been posted here, forgive me if that's the case)...but in addition to the Twist of Kate show, TLC apparently will be airing "occasional" shows that include the kids. Not sure if the timeframe coincides with filming Twist of Kate but anyway... it does sound like there will be filming going on with the kids...and who knows, it could be going on right now.

So my only new thought...and it might not be a very good one...is that K8 possibly has had the perception that she'll have to deal with the ordeal of working around Jon about filming the kids and she just hasn't wanted that annoyance. But either way, no matter what the reason, it's still inexcusable to keep a father from his children!

The way she looked today during a couple of interviews, she knows she's in for a fight. She looked really weary. Ah well, I'm sure she'll find a way to use her hang dog look to her advantage...at least it'll likely get her a few more votes come Monday night. I'm so done!

GoPoshGo said...

Anji said...
I just wrote the following to good ole Ms. Grace after her off the tongue flip tonight. My comment is still awaiting moderation.... go figure. It read as follows:

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Anji, I didn't see Nancy's show last night, but as a military spouse whose husband has served two tours in Iraq (one of which included his vehicle being blown up by an IED -- luckily everyone in his unit survived), I find it more than offensive that anyone would compare ANYTHING Kate has done to anything approximating a military career.

That said, my twins were born in Atlanta, and I happened to have gone to the same specialist who handled NG's twin pregnancy. He and I chatted a lot during my MANY visits, and let's just say that Nancy IS the controlling, emasculating, bitch that she appears to be on TV. She and Kate are cut from the same cloth -- and anything that spews from either of their mouths comes from a place of insecurity and very thinly veiled hatred (especially toward men) – not to mention, SELFISHNESS, especially where their “careers” are concerned. NG’s twins were premature – granted, many twin pregnancies are – but did she listen to the doctor’s advice to cut back her work hours in order to give the babies a better chance? No. And this is not my opinion, these are the doctor’s words.

On a separate note, I took a gander at Kate’s newest drivel – I mean “book” – on the Zondervan site, and was quite shocked at how poorly it was written. It reads like a middle-schooler’s diary entry. I didn’t read her (I mean Beth’s) first book, so I’d be REALLY curious to hear others’ comments on the writing style, comparatively speaking. Do they seem to have been written by the same person? Because I find it hard to believe the writing in her current book would qualify as a best-seller on ANY list. One more note to Kate, who, based on the content of her new book, seems to think her pregnancies were the special-est of them all: ALL multiple births – twins or more – are considered HIGH RISK -- and our pregnancies are ALL monitored carefully by specialists. Many – if not most – of us end up tethered to our homes, caring for premature babies. And believe it or not, Kate, ALL moms of multiples are stopped in malls, stores, parking lots, etc. simply because people are fascinated by multiples. Yes, even my twins draw such attention on a daily basis. So please stop acting like you’re the only person in the world to receive attention as a mom of multiples. The fact that it annoys you so much speaks more to your character (or lack thereof) than to the fact that you are the mom of multiples. Let’s just call your situation for what it is: You manipulated the medical system to produce more kids than you could ever afford to support, without any advance planning for their care or upbringing. You then proceeded to use those kids to provide a lifestyle that you could never provide for yourself. And now those pesky multiples just seem to be getting in the way of your aspirations to be a SUPERSTAR. Yes, you’re a “mother,” Kate … but there’s a word to follow that really completes the description of what you really are (and yes, it starts with an ‘F’ and rhymes with “trucker”).

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

Someone referred to her as Nancy DISgrace.... Wish I'd thought of that!

Because that's what she is....spewing hateful comments regarding Jon, glorifying Kart. This woman needs to go away. I'll certainly never, ever watch her again. It's not even worth going into the details.

She's a DISgraceful joke on herself, just like the shopping Kart.

Jenny said...

Anji, way to go with your post at Nancy Grace! And blessings to your precious son for his service.

I honestly can't understand why Mr. List...or anyone else who is on Jon's side...would choose to go on Nancy Grace's show knowing her favoritism towards K8 and her way of cross examining people in such a hateful way without allowing them to finish their sentences! I guess he just wanted to speak on behalf of Jon and help turn the public's opinion of him and the whole situation...but I'm thinking that maybe he should stick to doing his talking in the courtroom and forget about the media...they are very fickle and can turn on you at any moment and ambush you with a comment and if you're not used to dealing with them, you can get cut down on national tv. Especially Nancy Grace who seems to excel at chewing certain people up and spitting them out.

I used to watch her around the time she was having her twins but wow, she has gotten so hateful...and not even willing to hear the other side of things once she's formed her opinion. I figured I have enough stress in my life without watching someone cut someone down with their tongue each day almost as a blood sport.

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

"Twisted Fhate?"

Hope karma is following close behind...

her face reflects inner turmoil? said...

how can she be on The View and Today next Tuesday when she's supposed to be at DWTS both that day and the day before, and we're talking opposite coasts? Are we to believe that the guest spots she's doing are pre-taped? Did I miss something on the TV line-up? Is her highness being whisked away after the DWTS show Monday evening on a red-eye (private plane, of course) only to walk in bright-eyed and bushy-haired for Today's early hour...then, after The View, jetset back to the west coast for DWTS' results show? When in there did she see HER KIDS? No wonder Jon may have figured, having possibly been waiting quietly and patiently in the wings to build his case and plan of attack, that this was his time to pounce on her.

I'm annoyed and feeling snarky but I must say, saw on one of the web pages a photo of her from the DWTS set and her close-up was awful. Her face looks harsh...and this wasn't even when she had the over-the-top makeup on for performances. How can a 35-year-old woman look like she's well into her fifties, like me? I'm sure she'd blame it on what she perceives as her stressful life but her face doesn't look even remotely similar to that young housewife of just a few years ago in J&K+8 in its infancy. There's something going on there that just doesn't seem right. Her look is saggy and worn-down...maybe because she only smiles when the camera's on the new pearly whites. A natural smile can brighten a face; I suppose that's why hers looks like it's been down a few roads. Do you think she smokes in private, or is it too much tanning? I don't want to be pointing fingers at drugs or booze when I have no way of knowing, especially when I remember my grandmother telling me that the face and eyes reflect the soul and what's inside. If true, my dear grammy, then Kate is a real mess behind the mask.

all that glitters is not gold said...

Minka's tail...I make a point of reading your good comments...

(snipped) "...she's a narcissist and a famaholic, but with hospitals closing all over the place, I doubt she'd get a nursing job after not doing it for so long, even if she wasn't infamous..."

Gotta say, if I was a patient a year from now, and saw her approaching my hospital room with those laser eyes, I'd run as fast as my weak legs might take me. To me, her name tag would read, Nurse Nightmare.

She could NEVER go back to being a nurse after touching elbows with celebs, being on TV and getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for it. She'd be intensely resentful if she had to walk the steps backward to nursing. I say this with huge respect for all nurses everywhere--earth's angels in my book---although it's implausible to me to ever have considered Kate among such a dedicated and selfless group (it sure doesn't fit her personality of today).

I think the nurse issue is a dead horse even if an abundance of nursing jobs were available. Jon and Kate may want jobs but it would only now be glam jobs, not the ones like the rest of us have out here in the really, real world of reality. They've been touched with Hollywood glitter and, you know how that pesky glitter is (if you're a crafter), it's hard to shed it once it's owned you.

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