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Monster Mommy said...

Kate was probably just trying to suck up to Co-host, Anderson Cooper by wearing those 80's white Gloria Vanderbilt jeans on Regis today. As Gloria is his MOTHER! She is channeling Janet Wood from Three's company- what with the over-processed mullet. As TMZ says; Here today... Debbie Gibson tomorrow. You should have "sacrificed" that burnt hair before you did so on your DWTS stint!

Tami said...

I don't like Joy Behar and don't normally watch her show but last night when there was nothing on I started watching because Pam Anderson was on. Of course Joy had to bring up Kate. Pam was really sweet, too sweet to really say anything bad, but you could tell how she really feels. When Joy talked about how everyone can't stand Kate and how some women are called bitches for being strong, Pam finished her thought and said, "and some are just bitches for no reason..yeah" She also pretended to not know Kate was going back and forth to PA and said she was not aware the kids had not been with Kate the whole time and she herself is always running her kids around to their activities right after rehearsals and that she doesn't believe in having nannies and housekeepers doing it all and that she just does it herself. Yep, her feelings were made quite clear.

Organic Cheesy Doodles for Lunch Kids! said...

More lies from Kate. She felt it in her gut and she sacrificed herself like the one year virgin she is on the throne of the devil. My GAWD. Stop with your lies, woman!

Can't See Sheep said...

Holy Toledo guys!! So far I've read that kate claims she sacrificed herself for the other competitors, that her personal life is far more busy than any of their's & that the crew of DWTS were not allowed to look at her. That at least would explaining the makeup, hair & dresses.

I have been finding that when I watch kate on the clips posted & hear her tell one of her larger & more outrageous than the previous whopper, a part of me half expects to see her explode or get hit by lightening. How can she keep telling these things & continue to walk away unscathed, it's crazy. I mean if anyone of us attempted to tell such things, we'd get caught, or trip & break a leg or something.

First she sacrificed herself for her children, now she's sacrificing herself for strangers, what next, she's going to claim she's Christ returned to earth or something? The longer they let her talk, the weirder & weirder it gets. What next, she's the real ruler of North Korea? How the heck do you sacrifice yourself when you sent out a mass email begging everyone & their dog for votes? Does she even know what Evan does?

It has got to be a full time job for her PR crew to keep track of her lies. You never know what she is going to come out with next other than it will be self-serving & something that can get her as much attention as possible at that moment. I think a lot of what she's saying is pretty fantastical, but I'm pretty sure it'll pale in comparison to what she says next week. I'm also wondering if the David Hasslehoff in her world has aged or is he still supposed to look like he does on kate's Knight Rider poster that's hanging on the wall behind the door into her bedroom.

Kate's Nemesis said...

Please someone, do a real journalism novel on this farce of a mother. Unlike the "Letters To My Kids" saga; Geraldo where are you? There can obviously never be an "E! True Hollywood Story" about Kate, as she can not speak the truth... and is not Hollywood, but trailer trash.

Katie McFiibber White Pants said...

As "The Hoff" would say... This is a MESS!
Kate, good luck on your future endeavor to land him and Jeff Goldblum, whom coincidentally is your estranged father's age.

Kate's Nemesis said...

I know why Kate wants to date David Hasselhoff and Jeff Goldblum. It's because they were both born in 1952 in Maryland and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. She and Steve Neild are having major "Pillow Talk". He lives in MA and she in Penn. Guaranteed, those D-Listers are her Dad's age!

KatesDirtyFlintstoneToes said...

Wow, sharp contrast in THESE pictures to the ones where she left the lttle orphans alone on the porch the other day without so much as a wave good-bye:

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2010/04/23/win-a-date-with-kate-gosselin/

Ohio Buckeye said...

So, according to Jon's own statement, he has chosen to have no legal representation for himself as he goes up against the woman who has historically treated him so poorly AND her lawyers.

Apparently he learned NOTHING from his experience of the reported signing TLC's contract without his own legal representation.

Ron White is right: You Can't Fix Stupid.

Also, sadly, some overestimated his goals as nobly wanting to gain full custody so as to provide more stability for his kids. Unfortunately, truth has apparently always been that he does not WANT any greater responsibility than he agreed to in the initial divorce decree.

These decisions (in a long line of bad decisions over the last few yrs) on his part speak volumes and certainly do not help those who want to look to the kids' dad as a possible hero who will do what it takes to make things better for those poor 8 kids.

TLC trying to project either K8 or Jon as model parents on another one of TLC's bogus 'reality' family programs is as ludicrous as it is insulting.

Go Away, Gosselins.

BerksPa said...

Just an FYI Kate will be traveling now thru next week and beyond on her Book Tour: interesting that she was booted off the show last week. Georgia 4/24 - 4/25 Florida 4/26 - 4/27 Virginia 4/28 - 4/29 then PA/NY/NJ 5/2 - 5/7 Michigan 5/13 - 5/14

Not much time in there to actually be home with her kiddos... and here I wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt and think that she actually wanted to Mother them.

Geri said...

Here is video of where Kate says the judges pissed her off. It's around the 1:47 mark.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/video?id=7396664&section=on_the_red_carpet#global

Lucy said...

Whoopie and Joy Behar are now "permitted" to speak their minds about Khate. Khate's lying probably bothers them and other media like Anderson Cooper to frustration. Of course Khate figures she can always get away with her lies...she's that dumb. I mean, when we were in school and drank from the Fountain of Knowledge, Khate just gargled.

pinkdiamond611 said...

I'm confused? How did she sacrifice herself? She lost. She did not bow out gracefully, which she should have. But I believe she actually thought she could win the entire thing. And the Hoff thing??? Simply delusional. and, I don't think he is exactly "father" material with his drinking problem.

HW said...

On Joy Behar,I believe Pam also mentioned something about how she never tried to manipulate the audience. I thought that was a very clever dig at Kate.

I hope some of these stars will speak out after DWTS but I bet they won't.

readerlady said...

I finally was able to catch up on some of the earlier posts and - hope this isn't too late, but I noticed a number of posts on the previous "free discussion thread" about the slashed tires. I believe this incident took place at their previous home. It was one of the reasons Khate cited for wanting to move out of the old house.

Scary that Khate is being touted as the next "Bachelorette". Unbelievable. In what universe is she a bachelorette? With 8, count 'em, 8 kids? Wonder how many nannies she'd have to hire to cover childcare for that gig. Cause you know she wouldn't allow Jon uncontrolled access to the kids for that length of time.

MickeyMcKean said...

Did I miss something? Is Kate is interested in David Hasselhoff?

If so, didn't Kate realize that her new BFF Pamela Anderson knows David?

SAHM said...

Not sure if anyone has posted this but here is a link to Kate and Tony's appearance on Regis and Kelly... its the top video under 2010 performances.

http://bventertainment.go.com/tv/buenavista/regisandkelly/special/livestage/index.html

Di the Elder said...

I just watched an old video - never had seen it before - of K on the View, Sept 19, 2009, where the topic was Kate going to the house during Jon's custody, and someone called the police.
At about 3:00 min into the video, Kate begins discussing so plainly that she felt if it was Jon's custody, but he was going to be away from home, he should allow Kate to be the babysitter - as she is still the mother.
Now, turn the tables while she is on DWTS, it's her custody, and does she allow the dad to be the babysitter? Oh, hell no!
I also watched the more recent View where Whoopi calls Kate out for her behavior on DWTS, and demands she be voted off - which she was.....
Love you, Whoopi!

Pa Mom Knows said...

"Did I miss something? Is Kate is interested in David Hasselhoff?"

Somebody LIKE David Hasselhoff.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"She also pretended to not know Kate was going back and forth to PA and said she was not aware the kids had not been with Kate the whole time"

Wait a minute! Kate said in one of the interviews that she and her "friend," Pam sat next to each other in the make-up chairs and were always talking about kids, etc. If that were true, then Pam certainly would know that the kids were at home, and Kate was going back and forth to PA. Somebody's not coming clean here, and I doubt if it's Pam...

Kiki said...

Tami: I watched Joy also. I did not get the feeling Pam was being too sweet to say anything bad. Personally I think you are just putting your own thoughts out there and trying to make them Pam's. Pam is a big girl and can say what she wants to say. Others do so why wouldn't she?

Hippie Chick said...

I posted this on another thread, but it aggravated me to no end that she was stroking Anderson Cooper's arm. It was like...BACK OFF!! He does NOT want you! No one does! Plus, he's mine. Wench.

Bought and Paid For said...

A very long time ago someone here posted a reality show contract, believe it was for one of those Real Housewives.

I read it, and was appalled at the extent to which it required control over the individual, her life, her words, etc., even extending to the rest of her life, she could never say certain things. I posted that I could never imagine signing such a document, as it was evident she signed her life away.

It must be true, since we have not seen any reality participants dishing dirt about what they endured during or after the show, only the occasional media report about what happened to them since.

So, I'm not going to hold my breath for the Gosselin tell-all.

Further, in light of recent events, I am convinced that TLC has bought itself a family.

Either TLC has orchestrated the events of the last few years, or Jon breaks out a little and finds himself being legally reigned back in.

Probably the only hope the kids have of going free is to become of age or emancipated and convince a court that their parents did not have the right to legally encumber them. However, as the laws are now, the parents apparently did have that right.

Here are a couple of examples, and betcha they represent the tip of the iceberg:

http://www.thewrap.com/article/reality-show-confidential-10872

http://thresq.hollywoodreporter.com/2009/07/nadya-suleman-octuplets-reality-show-contract.html

NoUse4Kate said...

SAHM said...

Not sure if anyone has posted this but here is a link to Kate and Tony's appearance on Regis and Kelly... its the top video under 2010 performances.

http://bventertainment.go.com/tv/buenavista


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Oh gee whiz! I couldn't make it through that video. "I love everybody, everybody loves me." Like ya know k8, like everyone has it um figured out that you're a bitch, ya know like ummmmm, it isn't that um too hard to like figure out, so um you can like quit trying to like sell yourself as anything other than like a bitch.

The way she speaks just drives me insane. It was a great way to speak when you were a little girl and living in the 80's but come on sweet heart, grow up.

Anon's post about Anderson Cooper and the sheeple's comment was hilarious. These people are totally clueless.

IDModo said...

In response to whoever said Steve lives in Maryland: Does anyone else remember that Kate was said to have bought a condo in Silver Springs, Maryland, very close to the Neild's home? It was on the blog briefly with a link to its tabloid source. This was around the time, I think, that people were wondering where Kate went when it was Jon's custody time.That's also where TLC's headquarters is, I believe.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"Pam is a big girl and can say what she wants to say. Others do so why wouldn't she?"

It's called "taking the high road." Some do, some don't. Some are respectful, others aren't. Obviously she wasn't about to bad-mouth anyone or name names. At least not yet!

PA Woman said...

Kate's Nemesis said...
Please someone, do a real journalism novel on this farce of a mother. Unlike the "Letters To My Kids" saga; Geraldo where are you?
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Geraldo did a thing on Kate last weekend. They had a reporter come on and talk about how wonderful Kate is, and Jon is scum. At the end, Geraldo said he used to dislike Kate, but now he likes her. She has "spunk". So, I think you can cound him out as the investigative reporter.

PA Woman said...

Tami said...
I was wondering if Jon may have looked miserable because he was ordered by TLC to play in the driveway and is sick of them controlling him.
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It's hard to read anything into one, or even a few photos. He could look miserable for any number of reasons which are not related to the kids...first off, that photographers are there.

mama san said...

Pam has not been friends with Kate, except, in Kate's imagination. BTW, Pam's mother usually watches the kids when she is away. Plus, Pam has always been involved with school activities and other school-related duties. Pam contracted Hep-C from ex-husband Tommy Lee.

Midnight Serenade said...

"There can obviously never be an "E! True Hollywood Story" about Kate, as she can not speak the truth... and is not Hollywood, but trailer trash."

I thought this trailer debate had been settled. She DID NOT, I repeat DID NOT grow up in a trailer, never lived in one, never lived in a trailer park, etc. etc. She's not "Hollywood," but neither is she "trailer trash."

Midnight Serenade said...

"I know why Kate wants to date David Hasselhoff and Jeff Goldblum. It's because they were both born in 1952 in Maryland and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. She and Steve Neild are having major "Pillow Talk". He lives in MA and she in Penn."

I don't understand this post. What does their birthdates have to do with anything? Apparently she also liked Jake, and he was born in 1978 (younger than she is)in Dallas. Who lives in Massachusetts (MA)? Steve lives in Maryland. What is the "pillow talk" about?

NT said...

Apparently Tom B. and some of the DWTS bosses are getting flax for Kate's " sacrificed myself for all the other dancers." It sounds like the votes don't count and Tom got alot of questions on his twitter about that. I hope she gets in trouble for that stupid comment.

PA Woman said...

silimom said...
List filed for primary custody as a negotiating tactic. I believe Jon whole heartedly when he said all he wanted was a custody schedule set by the court, not Kate, and a review of his child support order. He just doesn't understand how the game is played, I suppose.

Jon panicked because people accused him of only wanting his kids so he could get $ from Kate. Just like her, he's trying to rehab his image. And I'm sure List was severe in his dealings with Jon telling him how to behave. Jon rebelled. He doesn't want people telling him what to do.

List did say TLC had been in contact with he and Jon. They made a deal.

This whole situation is just sick and twisted. Kate and Jon are both dysfunctional and I pity their children.

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I'm sorry for posting so much, but I've been traveling and I'm just catching up.

I have to say this makes sense to me. I never believed Jon wanted full custody either and also just thought it was filed as a starting point in negotiations. It happened soon after Kate refused for Jon to stay with the kids while she was in LA, and I think that is what he really wanted...to be with the kids when she travel. He knew the book tour and up coming show was coming up.

When I read today he twitered about firing his lawyer, etc. I couldn't figure it out. This is the best explanation I've read so far. It is doubtful it will do anything to repair his image though.

kiddies need mommy said...

"I know why Kate wants to date David Hasselhoff and Jeff Goldblum. It's because they were both born in 1952 in Maryland and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. She and Steve Neild are having major "Pillow Talk". He lives in MA and she in Penn. Guaranteed, those D-Listers are her Dad's age!"
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Dont know about Hasselhoff, but I believe that Jeff Goldblum is quite the A-lister. He doesnt partake of the 'hip' Hollywood lifestyle, and rumor is that he has an odd personality, but he is a in-demand actor who conducts himself as a professional. I think.

lukebandit said...

did ya'll see the pics of kate and tony when they went to see regis and kelly? she is addicted to the fabulous life, with no kids. to shun her kids like she did wave mady off like she did. and she is going to be gone for days. my my, hopefully jon will invite kevin and jodi over, oh wait he called them backstabbers.

i wish they would pull this trainwreck into the station let the kids off and then continue onward at full speed.

if God forbid, steve and kate are on a plane that crashes and they find his body, will they have to pry kate's purse out of steve's hand?

GosselHoff
david hasselhoff

GossGold
jeff goldblum

ArnGoss
tom arnold

GossWill
bruce willis

GosseMGib
Mel Gibson

niecy nash's partner louis said that kate needed a psycharist on the show, he let loose. wtg louis!

FREE TONY STILL!

Cry Me a River said...

I barely got through that disgusting video. I would like to know also how Kate knew that it was her when she had been dancing terribly the whole time and the sheeple kept getting her through or did TLC decide that was the night they were not going to flood the phone lines. I want to know and I am going to ask. I think she is speaking out or turn here.

Also I thought Anderson was going to gag when she kept stroking. She so very obviously likes gray-haired men - he is not available - he doesn't buy into your lies and he is not available. Besides Steve would be jellus.

Cry Me a River said...

Another thing about Anderson he can't stand to be touched and washes his hands excessively, I am pretty sure. I think she can add a hohat to her collection of the many hats she wears - no nice mommy hat though. Those were the saddest kids in the world in the driveway where she dumped them. She is the most disgusting person on earth. And Tony is making me sick too. Such a little suckup. I don't think he will be back on DWTS next season. Flip that bitch off and go on and save yourself, before you sink your boat or she sinks it for you when she doesn't need you anymore. I will be so glad when the truth finally comes about her. It is getting there slowly but surely. How can such a bad mommie fool so many people or do they just play along for the ratings.

Cry Me a River said...

Most likely what happened with Jon's misery, is that they went through the shots and only published the ones where he was more somber, you know to suck up to Kate. It would be very easy to do when they are snapping continuously. Kate accuses people of doing the same thing to her, but I don't believe it. The kids were having too much fun actually getting to touch and play with a parent for him not to have enjoyed it.

JT&ME said...

Midnight Serenade said:
I thought this trailer debate had been settled. She DID NOT, I repeat DID NOT grow up in a trailer, never lived in one, never lived in a trailer park, etc. etc. She's not "Hollywood," but neither is she "trailer trash."
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These days you DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT have to grow up in a trailer, or have lived in one, or have lived in a trailer park etc. to be called "trailer trash".

It originally started out as a term to describe people who lived like that but in today's world it's used as a derogatory name to describe a lot of people. It's mostly a persons own opinion when to use it.

It might be used to describe someone who is loud mouthed, dresses slutty or like a bum, is ignorant, doesn't want to hold down a job, uses incorrect English etc. It's similar to calling someone a "low life".

I never use the term myself but I thought I would give you my opinion because you seemed so upset at the thought of people thinking Kate lived in a trailer at one time.

the kids the kids! said...

Organic Cheesy Doodles for Lunch Kids! said...

More lies from Kate. She felt it in her gut and she sacrificed herself like the one year virgin she is on the throne of the devil. My GAWD. Stop with your lies, woman!

4/23/2010 10:19 PM

Just watched the clip from Regis & Kelly of Kate and Tony. She actually didn't say she sacrificed herself. She said she told her DWTS co-stars that she "wanted" to sacrifice herself for the others.

It's important to get the correct verbage.

Amazon reader said...

Just wanted to post that I am at Amazon and voting that the negative reviews are "helpful." This does effect the book ranking and the review ranking of those who have posted reviews.

It also helps if you post "not helpful" on the positive reviews as all of this effects which reviews come out first on the page, the books ranking, and review ranking for reviewers.

I've also noticed that there are many small reviews (one paragraph) that is glowing written by "male" author names. I personally belief these are clone accounts just started for the purpose of posting that one review (it's the only review the poster has made).

Someone on the last open discussion thread posted an article from a major newspaper that the bad reviews, and the suspicion that there have been fake positive reviews ARE indeed impacting the book.

You vote counts! Be sure to go by!

bleeting sheeple said...

OK- to be completely honest, have REALLY not been paying all that close attention to things in the past say 6-8 months due to daily life. But today something just really JUMPED out at me. Looking at RadarOnline and noticed that now Jonny Boy is giving them interviews, and how he will be/has been taking more care of this kiddo's.

It hit me like million pound ton of bricks, ladies and gents, Jon and Kate are as thick as theives and both continueing to make money off the fact that she abused fertility drugs (due to her connection as a then RN)
They can utilize the media all they want with the Good Cop/Bad Cop ploys all they want, but it is so ever apparent that the both of these people continue to be a team to use the kids for profit. At this point, I really don't think there is much hope for the kids in these ever formative years, since most likely Jon will get more custody time with the kids (after all Kart would be the wicked witch of the east if she denied a father who WANTED time with his kids). Boy do I feel ike a dufus for actually thinking this might be a real life family drama (i.e. Jon) when it is just a sick a$$ version of the truman show with 8 little innocent folks, who let's face it, are probably all but ruined due to the fact they have been exposed/used/manipulated in front of a camera and crew for god knows how many hours of a day, how many days of a week since birth for what 5 years now. I am going to Pray Pray Pray for those kids.

bleeting sheeple said...

JT&ME said...
Midnight Serenade said:
I thought this trailer debate had been settled. She DID NOT, I repeat DID NOT grow up in a trailer, never lived in one, never lived in a trailer park, etc. etc. She's not "Hollywood," but neither is she "trailer trash."
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These days you DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT have to grow up in a trailer, or have lived in one, or have lived in a trailer park etc. to be called "trailer trash".

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Correct- You have it Right JT.
You can live in a million dollar mansion (ahem ahem) and still be Tailer Trash, You can be on every society rossiter and still be trailer trash.....and the same goes that you can be poor as a church mouse, carry yourself with dignity and be like true royalty. Where you live ( or where you DID live), how much money you have and what you wear do not distinguish a persons character.
Kart IS trailer Trash

Still Disgusted in TX said...

I would love for the paparazzi or tabloids to send someone in to the same nail salon when Kate's getting her nails done. How interesting would that be ? I feel sorry for her nail tech who has to deal with this skank! Then we can get some first hand accounts from people not under confidentiality agreements.lol

Don't Hassle the Hoff said...

Yes, Readerlady... the tires were alledgedly slashed at the old house. Who knows though, so many lies; hard to keep track of the whoppers!

Yes, Kate said she sees herself with someone like Hoff, or Jeff Goldblum. I think Kate met Jeff when she played the Teradactle in Jurassic Park... So on that note... Kit, get me 'outta here!

(Monster Mommy)

alana said...

I don't know where else to post this, but if it stays in my brain any longer my head will explode.

WHY is time spent with the children referred to as "custody time" or "Jon's custody" or "it wasn't Kate's custody of the children?"

In the "olden days" when my parents got divorced, time spent with the parent whom we didn't live with was called "VISITATION." As in, my father took us to see the Ice Follies on VISITATION Sunday. Or, my father made a point to make all of us feel special when he had VISITATION. My mother may have had physical custody of us kids, but my father took care of our emotional needs during his VISITATION time in ways that never occured to her.

If I'm remembering correctly, it was Hate that started the "custody time" vocabulary words. I refuse to adopt an ignorant misnomer that initially came out of the mouth and brain of such an idiot shrew.
Please let me know if I'm just behind the times and "custody time" is actually the new "VISITATION." Please!

KatesDirtyFlintstoneToes said...

Here's another example of Kate calling her beloved paparazzi to catch her in a photo op. Funny, Jon apparently has custody right now, so that means Kate is staying elsewhere, but the paps dont get any pictures of her driving to her hideout, just the usual "arking lot pictures" And if she IS staying at the mansion while Jon has custody, she doesnt want anyone to know about it!

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/60369/2010/04/kate-gosselin-goes-salon-and-leaves-jon-home-kids#image-load

The paps got pictures of Jon at home, but funny---no pictures of Kate leaving the driveway to go tan, just pix of her THERE already...hmmmm? Why don't they follow her to her "place" uopn leaving the parking lot??

Shall I start my reconciliation theory/scam again????

Kate's Nemesis said...

Kate did say she was pals with Pam, although I think Pam Anderson just let all Kate's lies go in one ear and out the other. I personally don't think Pam gave one iota of a darn about "Kate's Dramatic Soap Opera". Pam did get her digs in on Joy with the no nannies, no housekeepers comment, and saying she does it all by herself.
Remember when Kate's new kitchen was upgraded and she acted like a total jerk? She said that lady who did it for FREE was her GOOD FRIEND also. Then, right before Kate introduced her, she said "Nice to meet you!" You don't say that to a good friend. More lies... Liar, liar... white pants on fire!

Bonnie said...

Just watched the Regis and Kelly outtake and looks like there is a third show coming....

"Win a Date with Kate"

She could never to a Bachelorette show but this format would allow for an occasional show every time she falls off the front page of the tabloids!

K8STFU said...

I bet there are many folks who live in trailers that are nice, kind hearted, hard working and honest who don't pimp their kids for the almighty $$$.

K8 is just TRASH.


BTW K8, did you hear that even a real celebrity like Anderson Cooper takes the subway? No bodyguard (using that term loosely here ), no Towncar and no ROL friends, I mean paps.

K8STFU said...

Just watched the clip from Regis & Kelly of Kate and Tony. She actually didn't say she sacrificed herself. She said she told her DWTS co-stars that she "wanted" to sacrifice herself for the others.


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I think the fact that she uses the word SACRIFICE at all clearly shows that she is playing the martyr-mom card. A spot in next week's competition was not hers to give up for others. She is so full of herself it's laughable, and quite odd.

Pony said...

"Please let me know if I'm just behind the times and "custody time" is actually the new "VISITATION." Please! "

In general, "custody time" is used when parents share custody, i.e. a 50/50 split. "Visitation" is used when one parent has sole custody and the other parent has "visitation" with the kids, typically every other weekend and every Wednesday or Tuesday or some such division of time. Since Kate seems to think that she has sole custody, you'd think she'd say visitation, but then again, this is Kate - with all her mangled use of the English language.

eileen said...

Bleeting Sheep, I TOTALLY Agree with your summation of the J&K franchise (brand) whatever you want to call it...those children are the innocent pawns of parents who use them for their own devices...certainly prayers are needed for these innocents!! Thanks for speaking for me...

silimom said...

The latest Dancing With The Stars couple to get the boot, Kate Gosselin and Tony Dovolani, stop to make an appearance at Live With Regis & Kelly on Thursday (April 22) in New York City.

Guest co-host Anderson Cooper seconded Jimmy Kimmel’s notion that Kate should be the next Bacehlorette.

“Are you available?” Kate asked Anderson as she grabbed his wrist.

“No, he’s not!” Kelly Ripa exclaimed.



Read more: http://justjared.buzznet.com/2010/04/23/win-a-date-with-kate-gosselin/#ixzz0m3qWLDvi

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What's so funny about Kate asking Anderson that question? Well, aside from the fact that I personally can't see any reason why someone like Anderson Cooper would find Kate attractive, he's also gay.

Sobby McFibberpants said...

BMWOP said...
The pics of Kate on ROL...well, she still looks catatonic. She actually looks like she's on the rag and like someone dumped a bucket of water over her head.
88888888888888888888888888888888888888Please stop with these ridiculous assumptions! Clearly, if water had been dumped on her head, she would have melted! ;)

Also, I see there is another Mcfibberpants among us. Are we relatives?

Minka's Tail said...

First she sacrificed herself for her children, now she's sacrificing herself for strangers, what next, she's going to claim she's Christ returned to earth or something? The longer they let her talk, the weirder & weirder it gets. What next, she's the real ruler of North Korea? How the heck do you sacrifice yourself when you sent out a mass email begging everyone & their dog for votes? Does she even know what Evan does?
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That is the funniest thing I ever read. She should change her name to Kate Jong Il.

silimom said...

alana - I believe it was Jon who started the whole "custody time" phrase when he refused to let Kate come home last summer when he was with the kids and she apparently called the police.

In our family, our kids always referred to it as "Dad's week" or "Mom's week". Fortunately, we have an amicable relationship with my husband's ex and the kids have always been able to be with whichever parent they wanted whenever they wanted. Yes, there was a formal visitation schedule, but we've always tried to put the kids' needs first.

bcsurvivor2001 said...

Just an FYI Kate will be traveling now thru next week and beyond on her Book Tour: interesting that she was booted off the show last week. Georgia 4/24 - 4/25 Florida 4/26 - 4/27 Virginia 4/28 - 4/29 then PA/NY/NJ 5/2 - 5/7 Michigan 5/13 - 5/14

Not much time in there to actually be home with her kiddos... and here I wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt and think that she actually wanted to Mother them.

4/24/2010 6:28 AM
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Very interesting....with that schedule - there would be NO WAY to dance. So yes, like we all thought - it was totally fixed/rigged/set-up - whatever word you want to choose. Especially the April 26-27 - which is a Monday and Tuesday - cant be in Florida and dance in LA now can ya?

silimom said...

It seems, according to the tabloids, that Jon is a) selling his Beemer to earn some cash and b) is in talks with TLC to have his own show.

Not sure if TLC would do that or not. They might prefer keeping Jon under contract if at all possible just to control him. They were apparently in talks with Kate to allow Jon to be on a few episodes of Kate + 8 which she immediately shot down. So it sounds like they're not necessarily opposed to working with him.

The question is, what kind of show would Jon do? Like Kate, I don't think he has a great deal to offer as far as carrying his own show. I wouldn't mind seeing him on DWTS or The Biggest Loser or some show like that.

To be fair, I wouldn't have had a problem with Kate being on DWTS if she hadn't pulled the kids into it "I'm doing it to support my kids!" Yes, that may be a reason, but it's the whole "Look at me. I'm such a wonderful mother who sacrifices all for her kids! It's all about the kids! I just want to be home baking cookies etc." Just admit you're a fame whore and we'll be square. But don't pretend to be something your not and try and sell me that image.

Midnight Serenade said...

"I would love for the paparazzi or tabloids to send someone in to the same nail salon when Kate's getting her nails done. How interesting would that be ? I feel sorry for her nail tech who has to deal with this skank! Then we can get some first hand accounts from people not under confidentiality agreements.lol"

Interesting. I wonder how many of these people really are forced to sign CAs. Salons? Nail techs? Dentists? Dry cleaners? Car mechanics? It's amazing that if they didn't sign CAs, that they haven't called up those tabs and sold their stories.

MickeyMcKean said...

Bleeting Sheeple said...
Correct- You have it Right JT.
You can live in a million dollar mansion (ahem ahem) and still be Tailer Trash, You can be on every society rossiter and still be trailer trash.....and the same goes that you can be poor as a church mouse, carry yourself with dignity and be like true royalty. Where you live ( or where you DID live), how much money you have and what you wear do not distinguish a persons character.
Kart IS trailer Trash

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Here's the deal - when I sold my 5 acre ranchette a couple of years ago for over a million dollars, and before there was a house on the new ranch property, and because I could not find a house to rent in the interim because I own a Rottweiler which is considered an agressive breed, I elected to live temporarily in my RV trailer with my dogs.

So I can state for the record that I have lived in a RV trailer park. Am I trailer trash? No.

Did I meet long term tenants that are probably never going to get out of their RV? Yes.

Do I consider these long term tenants "trailer trash"? Depends.

Whereas some tenants have very little, they still are very decent people and have a lot of pride.

However, there were other tenants who had no problem in stealing from their RV neighbors, or would go to town in order to solicit money from strangers. One couple took their small children to a rest area to grift for the family (I heard they bought drugs before food and if I had seen it I would have reported it). Perfect examples of "trailer trash" - capable of getting a job but could not be bothered to do so even if there are children involved.

Yes, I consider Kate "trailer trash", and this is regardless of whether or not she has ever lived in a RV, mobile home or manufactured home.

JMO.

MickeyMcKean said...

Just wanted to say that I appreciate all the time the moderators put in this blog.

I also really like the new photo of the "Gosselins".

Kate's Nemesis said...

When people here, in Hollywood, call folks like Kate "Trailer Trash" it is speaking figuratively. Most of us have seen the pre-fabed home Kate grew up in; and I believe her parents at one point operated a trailer park, in addition to her father's work at their church. It is the way that Kate behaves that causes many to call her white trash. The sense of entitlement that brings her moral character (or lack thereof) into question. To me, that is trash... And she is by no standards "Hollywood".

Two All Beef Patties said...

Cry Me a River said...
I barely got through that disgusting video. I would like to know also how Kate knew that it was her when she had been dancing terribly the whole time and the sheeple kept getting her through or did TLC decide that was the night they were not going to flood the phone lines. I want to know and I am going to ask. I think she is speaking out or turn here.

Also I thought Anderson was going to gag when she kept stroking. She so very obviously likes gray-haired men - he is not available - he doesn't buy into your lies and he is not available. Besides Steve would be jellus.

4/24/2010 12:53 PM
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I think Kate had a gut feeling because it was right after Whoopi's rant about her on The View. I think Kate "cried all day" because of what Whoopi, Joy and Alexandra said. I'll bet if none of that happened, Kate would've had a lovely day believing she was safe and someone else was getting the boot.

I personally choose to believe it was Whoopi who put an end to this nonsense.

AND............

I CRACKED up when she was flirting with Anderson Cooper and clearly didn't know he is gay.

ChurchMouse said...

"my9cats said...

Tami: Maybe Jon looked miserable because he has a huge hemmoroid or he had gas. Sheesh! do you have to read something into everything?"

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No, dear. Jon may have a pain in the butt, but it's not a hemorrhoid.

PA Woman said...

Another thought on why Jon now is backing out on the custody hearing. Think about the timing of events. Jon files for custody, PA hearing on kids in RV focusing on the Gosselins, Jon no longer files, fires his attorney and is talking to TLC. I think that TLC has convinced Jon that he as a major liability it whatever comes from any future investigations into the filming of the eight. During the custody hearing, someone from the state may ACTUALLY talk to the kids. Something TLC doesn't want, and even he didn't think that way already, they have now convienced Jon. No hearing, no one talks to the kids. That's my thought anyway.

WallyWinnie said...

Ok, that whole "custody" wording makes me ill too!

So, I just looked it up in my new dictionary and it says "RIGHTS OVER CHILD"

Just because Kate is the custodial parent, meaning they live with her, does not mean that the time they spend with either parent is their CUSTODY time!

Visitation is the proper term, whether it be in the 1980's (like I remember my divorced friends using that term) or 2010.

Kate is just plain ignorant of the whole thing! aka trailer trash lol

dustilies said...

BerksPa said...

Just an FYI Kate will be traveling now thru next week and beyond on her Book Tour: interesting that she was booted off the show last week. Georgia 4/24 - 4/25 Florida 4/26 - 4/27 Virginia 4/28 - 4/29 then PA/NY/NJ 5/2 - 5/7 Michigan 5/13 - 5/14

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BerksPa, or others, where is this info posted? I live in GA, and might (on this rainy, rainy wekend) think about going to a signing tomorrow--but after 20 minutes of googling, I can't find a schedule at all, let alone specific bookstores. Weird to me that neither Zondervan, Barnes and Noble, Borders, nor TLC is publicizing her appearances.

Thanks in advance.

GoPoshGo said...

Pa Mom Knows said...
"Somebody LIKE David Hasselhoff."

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So, Kate's interested in dating an alcoholic, cheeseburger-snarfing, floor-crawling D-list loser? Funny, I always assumed people UPGRADED after a divorce.

BeDoneNow said...

Continued from last thread...

christine said...
Everybody's stating that Mr. List's reputation is spotless and he is a stand-up guy. That may be true.

BUT why the heck was he on Nancy Grace April 21 as one of the legal guests panelists talking about the Haleigh Cummings case....

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THIS is exactly what I was thinking. Mr. Attorney-at-Law, Friend of Dad's, went to the media and sold Jon out. Right off the bat. No wonder Jon fired him so soon.

If it is true that Jon is sucking up to Kart and TLC again, it may be because he has nowhere else to go. He is completely alone and powerless. Who on the face of this earth can he truly trust to have only his best legal interests in mind? No one. No one cares about little Jonathan Gosselin in the face of the Discovery Machine. The money is too powerful.

He will sell his car for cash to pay some of his child support obligation to try to do the best he can. He may be afraid of trying to get a real job because of notoriety at this point. Also, $13.75 (or whatever) an hour might seem mighty pointless in view of 22K a month child support and ongoing legal bills.

I pity Jon. He had it all. Whatever Kartie didnt destroy, he tossed away. But I believe he looks at his children and hopes for a future of love and family with them. he is just spinning in circles right now and has no idea how to stop.

GoPoshGo said...

Midnight Serenade said...
"I thought this trailer debate had been settled. She DID NOT, I repeat DID NOT grow up in a trailer, never lived in one, never lived in a trailer park, etc. etc."

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Midnight, you don't have to grow up in an actual trailer to be considered "trailer trash." No matter what type of “physical” home Kate was raised in, her attitude, values and lifestyle are pure trailer trash through and through. She's classless, ignorant, and completely unaware of the world at large. She's the text-book definition of trailer trash. Sadly, her narcissistic personality brings her down a notch even further.

GoPoshGo said...

alana said...
[snipped] "Please let me know if I'm just behind the times and "custody time" is actually the new "VISITATION." Please!"

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I'm with you, Alana. My parents divorced when I was very young, and although our 'non-custodial' parent never visited, her time was referred to as "visitation."

What's irked me more in the Gosselin case is that those two ignoramuses keep referring to their visitation times as "Jon's custody" or "Kate's custody." Will someone PLEASE send these two idiots to grammar camp????

Monster Mommy said...

On the "custody" question- that was thought provoking. We called our time with Dad VISITATION as well. More proof that Twisted Kate views her children as commodities, and not human beings. She has custody of the house and garage apartment as well! I wonder if the kids are still NOT PERMITTED under penalty of severeness to enter HER ROOM. Vegas odds tell me the padlock and deadbolts on her bedroom door are not just for Jon.

Tami said...

Tami: I watched Joy also. I did not get the feeling Pam was being too sweet to say anything bad. Personally I think you are just putting your own thoughts out there and trying to make them Pam's. Pam is a big girl and can say what she wants to say. Others do so why wouldn't she?
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Well that is fine if you did not get that impression. What impression did you get then? Do you believe it sounded as if she is friends with Kate as Kate claimed? Not to me. Everything she mentioned were things that Kate did that she says she does not do. She made a point to mention them and was not even asked about them. Hmm, so why would she not say anything bad? It is apparent that all the dancers on DWTS have been advised or signed some contract stating that should not speak negatively about other contestants. Clearly she was not liked, but everyone is playing nice since that is the nature of the show.
Note that when Kate mentioned all the people she loves, she clearly left out Niecy and it is pretty obvious Niecy and her partner can't stand her.

Karma is Coming said...

The Kids Come First...

http://www.usmagazine.com/momsbabies/news/kate-gosselin-ditches-kids-to-go-tanning-get-a-pedicure-2010244

Tami said...

Tami: Maybe Jon looked miserable because he has a huge hemmoroid or he had gas. Sheesh! do you have to read something into everything?

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Yep, and apparently I'm not the only one. A million sheeple on TMZ and ROL where the pics were posted said he looked so miserable because he hates being around the kids. If there is a pic of Kate, everyone usually comments here all about her state of mind, etc. It is no different. And did you just post as someone else on my comment about Pam, because I just got my hand slapped there too. lol. ; )

Tami said...

Most likely what happened with Jon's misery, is that they went through the shots and only published the ones where he was more somber, you know to suck up to Kate. It would be very easy to do when they are snapping continuously. Kate accuses people of doing the same thing to her, but I don't believe it. The kids were having too much fun actually getting to touch and play with a parent for him not to have enjoyed it.
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Yeah, I agree. They probably do just print the unhappy looking ones to make him look bad. He didn't look happy, but he is the kind of person who when he is not smiling looks miserable most of the time. His face sort of looks mopey and sad, probably because he lacks energy. I figure they normally are in the driveway just to have pics taken by "paparazzi" (ROL), but it could also be he is obigated to go out there a certain amount of time so they can get their stupid stories. I still believe he'd rather be out on all those acres and letting them play in their crooked houses or whatever, than standing in a driveway.

fidosmommy said...

I don't know if anyone else has noticed that there is something missing with Kate.

Her wad of chewing gum.

Did somebody finally speak to her about that?

No Worry, Beef Curry said...

Kate went tanning again today and got a pedicure according to ROL. Now Jon's giving them Exclusive Interviews?She has seriously made a deal with them to get paid for photo ops. I guess Jon is just doing whatever the evil witch tells him to, so he can see his kids. Nothing's changed.

Can't See Sheep said...

@Ohio Buckeye, yep, there is just no fixing stupid. It's disappointing, I know I can't make excuses for Jon anymore. Way back I hoped that kate would turn around, she didn't, she seems to only be getting more bizarre as time passes. Then I hoped Jon would turn it around, but nope, unless Uncle Kevin & Aunt Jodi can do something those kids are on their own & that's just sad. Both parents need to go away.

LOL!!! Anderson Cooper interested in kate, wow, those sheeple really are something, yep, but I have no idea what. I've seen bits & pieces of his show now & again & kate has been mentioned a few times. Each time AC just falls silent for a few moments & then moves onto the next topic. The last time I saw it, about a month ago a woman just off camera was mentioning kate & AC fell silent, started shaking his head, but the woman didn't drop it & kept pushing kate. You could see AC working his jaw & then it became very firmly set & he said he did not see kate as a celebrity & he was NOT going to spend his time talking about her. His tone was very firm, very final, he moved right on to the next topic & kate was not mentioned again that night. He wasn't rude or loud about it, just said what he had to say & that was that.

It must have irritated the heck out of him to find out kate would be on while he was co-hosting.

Sarah J said...

There is a difference between joint and shared custody arrangements and custody and visitation arrangements.

In the past it was more common for one parent to have sole custody. This parent had the legal power to make decisions regarding the medical, educational and other needs of the children. The other parent had visitation rights, which meant that that parent could spend certain times with the children. That parent did not have the same decision making powers as the custodial parent. However, the visitation parent or access parent may have the right to receive information about the child's education or medical conditions. In some jurisdictions, the access parent may have certain decision making powers, like seeking medical attention for the child during the visitation periods. In some jurisdictions, that parent may have some say in other decisions affecting the child, but in many jurisdictions the visitation parent would not have the same decision making rights as the custodial parent. Some jurisdictions allow the judge to vary that norm through a court order or the parties could vary it themselves by private agreement.

Joint custody and shared custody mean that the parents both have the power to make decisions regarding the children. Some jurisdictions allow the parents to have different areas of decision making power, i.e. one parent can make decisions about the child's extracurricular and medical needs, and another parent makes the decisions about the child's schooling. Or, the parents can have sole decision making authority during the period in which they have custody of the child. Joint custody does not mean that the children spend an equal amount of time with each parent.

ChurchMouse said...

Words fail me.

From the TMZ website:
"A rep for the Pennsylvania Dept. of Labor and Industry tells TMZ the correct paperwork for the show was submitted and approved ... and said, "The proper steps have been taken and the kids are permitted for 'Kate Plus 8.'"

But according to the rep, nothing has been submitted for Kate's other TLC spin-off "Twist of Kate" -- which could mean the kiddies may not be joining Kate on that one.

That's probably a good thing ... because 5-year-olds shouldn't have to work two jobs."

Thank your mother for ruining your lives, kids.

Cry Me a River said...

So sad to see the kids clinging to their comfort items again. Can Mommie Dearest not see the relevance of this? Yes, but she doesn't care. I am sure they are doing the chewie thing, too. What a sad group of children - what a happy mom when she is away with Steve.

I also read the excerpt I guess from the how to book on child exploitation that apparently her infertility was based on a gut feeling that she had all of her life that she would have a hard time getting pregnant. And sure enough she found a doctor to confirm it. Apparently the one doctor did not agree with her plan for multiples as I see that she changed doctors and lo and behold the first month she got pregnant. Isn't that something. Some people try for months even with fertility treatments.

And just my personal opinion but I think the alleged mysterious 7th child (that she said ages ago was resorbed and not newsworthy) unveiled for the book was a reduction because it would not fit into her scenario to have an uneven number -- I will take 6, to go along with my 2, thank you, can you bag those up for me please. I have big plans trust me. I cannot lie, honestly.

And to put that guilt trip on a child especially the happiest and most well adjusted child - Alexis -
makes me sad. You cannot get that child down - she is always smiling, happy, funny, caring. Yet Mommie Dearest found a way, oh you all crowded out this poor 7th child and she had to go to heaven -little Emily Rose - you will never know her because there was "just too many of you."

Nice....

IDModo said...

On TMZ it says that the proper documents have been filed with the PA Department of Labour and that the children are cleared to participate in Kate Plus 8.
For everybody who hoped this would not happen, Oh Dopey Us!I will be very interested to see Rep.Murt's response to this.What a Modern-Day Immorality play!Shame on TLC and the Gosselins...

KatesDirtyFlintstoneToes said...

Kate talks about Twist of Kate (blah!)...she also WILL NOT SHUT UP in this video, and spews more lies & bullsh!t than ever before at the end of the video...you'll see what I mean

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR4pXeoeQwY

Kart's Kustody said...

alana said...
*snipped*
If I'm remembering correctly, it was Hate that started the "custody time" vocabulary words. I refuse to adopt an ignorant misnomer that initially came out of the mouth and brain of such an idiot shrew.
Please let me know if I'm just behind the times and "custody time" is actually the new "VISITATION." Please!
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IMO, Kart's choice of words says a lot about how she thinks of those kids. She doesn't visit with them herself. She owns them. She possesses them. They are HERS, ALL HERS!

At least in Illinois, normal people still have "visitation".

Aunt Chris said...

Good Lord - Have you seen the picture on ROL today, Today's Hot Pictures - of Kate hugging two children? Not her own, of course, but 2 kids outside of the Regis & Kelly show. I wonder what her kids would think of that picture. I also wonder what sort of parent would allow their own children so close to that cold witch.

Anna said...

In NY, if one parent has sole custody - the time the other parent has with the kids is "visitation." It really means they have no decision authority in the kids lives and only visit their children.

If there is joint custody, each partent has "custody" time. When the kids are with either parent, they have decision making power. Jon has custody of the kids when he is there - he is not a visitor in their lives.

I can fault Kate for lots of things but not the use of the word custody in the context that she uses it.

KatesDirtyFlintstoneToes said...

regarding the Regis interview..anyone think it was odd that her book wasn't mentioned, and neither was her new show(s)??

I'll bet Kate left there in a huff...poor Steve

ihatefrogs said...

From the TMZ website:
"A rep for the Pennsylvania Dept. of Labor and Industry tells TMZ the correct paperwork for the show was submitted and approved ... and said, "The proper steps have been taken and the kids are permitted for 'Kate Plus 8.'"

When the J & K + 8 show originated and ultimately aired 100+ episodes NOT one news outlet felt it news worthy to report the status of the working permits of the eight Gosselin children. Despite the fact that the exploitation of the Gosselin children and 'working permits' had been a hot topic of discussion and many expressed their concerns directly to the PA Department of Labor. IIRC, at one point the PA Department of Labor even went so far as to issue a statement saying that they have NOT received any complaints or concerns regarding the matter. Most certainly the PA Department of Labor was well aware of the fact that DURING the years TLC was filming J & K + 8 reality show the Gosselin children were 'working' without the proper work permits.

grannyoftwo said...

It is so very like Kate to be so out of touch with real "reality" that she doesn't even know that Anderson Cooper is gay....I thought everyone knew that...of course she can't and hasn't seen past her own nose in some time, I guess that explains it..or maybe she is trying to find her own best friend to pay and take with her everywhere she goes that nobody will accuse her of sleeping with..like Jessica Simpson has in her hairstylist? Maybe she is not so dumb afterall...Go for it Coop! There is lots of money to be made and well, she is the queen of stars and all that jazz! lol...paid friends..that is just too sad for words..can you take those to the nursing homes when you get old?

Please NO More said...

I'm just so disgusted beyond belief.
The Gosselin kids can't sing, can't dance, can't act. (I'm thinking Jackson 5, the Osmonds, heck even the Brady Bunch kids) Yet, MommaG thinks they need to be on TV for what reason?
So that she can shove in our faces the fact that those kids are useful only to promote her lifestyle choices. The kids may travel everywhere during this summer; go on some great trips, but what about friends and family and FUN?
My children can handle a week of vacation trips during the summer, but then want to play at the pool, hang with the neighbor kids, run through the sprinkler, ride their bikes to the corner store. God forbid if I ever had them pimped out for what - a recorded trip to Disneyland ? They don't want their summer to be planned down to the hour.
Seriously, is America still interested in what a gaggle of near 6 year-olds and a couple 9 year-olds do with their lives? If so why?
This is so unfair to these kids. They have nothing - no parents, no neighbor kids to play with. They are kept in the middle of nowhere with nothing but an army of nannies, a fakey fake tan/nails/hair'd narcissistic housewife and a father figure who doesn't know if he's coming or going.

I for one have left TLC ages ago. I gave up Ace of Cakes (which ended up being too scripted for me), What not to Wear, and Say Yes to the Dress. I just can't support an industry who does this to those children.

no tears for Kate said...

I happened to check Radaronline because I had not been there in ages and came across pictures of Kate leaving home after spending only one hour there. There was a picture of several of the tups(no smiles) by the front door. Aiden was sitting on a step and had the saddest, most bewildered look on his face. It made me want to cry.

Cry Me a River said...

Tami--I agree.

He looks really depressed to me yet he continues to soldie on. I feel bad for him. He got the short end of the stick someone we all know and can't stand has broken off in her majigabottom.

I am not a natural hater, can't name a handful of people of I don't like much like despise but I swear she makes my blood boil.

It is quite phenomenal, actually.

Lucy said...

Previous poster said "On TMZ it says that the proper documents have been filed with the PA Department of Labour and that the children are cleared to participate in Kate Plus 8".

Seems funny this should be done on a weekend when PA Dept of Labour can't respond! Is this just another lame TLC publicity stunt? Time will tell. In any event I fear those poor 8 kids will never get any peace.

jonandkatewho? said...

I agree with the poster who wondered what exactly anybody finds of interest in the Gosselin kids. They are not talented in the usual way that kids on television used to be before reality television took over.

It's all so sad. Sad for the kids and a sad note on society itself that people are happy to accept the new reality format as good television. It really sucks, and most of TLC's reality programming is just pathetic and trashy. I don't really like any shows on there now except for the older ones....\SYTTD, WNTW, and the home shows like Property Ladder and My First Home. The "families" they turn into entertainment are just not entertaining at all.

Except for the fact that Jon and Kate probably deliberately had more kids than they could afford just to get famous, they have nothing to offer. If they did a REAL documentary on the story of how these two "parents" scammed people and sought fame, and did so deliberately, that might be interesting to see. The truth would be out there. I think people actually will now tune in to see what a mess they are and how badly the kids behave, which is kind of sick.

I wish Jon had held out for not letting them back on camera. I really wish he had. TLC obviously doesn't care about being looked at by most of us as a really bad group of people. How can they do this to those kids? I feel like they are screwed now. The only possibly good outcome will be if the laws are changed to include reality kids. It still doesn't help these kids, or mean that they should be on tv. It just is not ok. I just feel so badly for them.
No child should ever have their privacy sold out for a lifestyle.

Monster Mommy said...

Well, despite all of our protests- the SHOW must go on!

Will Mommy finally tell the kids tonight they have been sold to the devil that is TLC again- and will be filming another reality show?

Unreal. I'm sure the kids will grow up to feel about Kate, just the way I would feel about my mother, if she ever did that to me. The kids are clearly going through hell now... most at the tender age of 5. Why would anyone in the position, approve a permit to PERMIT the disintigration of the shred that is left of that family? I envision most of the TLC dollars "earned" on this new show being spent on the Psychiatric Industry in the future.

Kate's Nemesis said...

@Can't See Sheep...

On the Anderson Cooper comment... He's someone I admire greatly, and you're right.

I noticed it too on Andy's 360 show; he has dismissed the very mention of Kate Gosselin many times, and wanted no part of the discussion. He did the same with Paris Hilton during her crazed saga. He even calls her "She, who shall remain NAMELESS!" Which I find hysterical. He's made it clear that he doesn't view these two women as celebrities. You know, he thrives on real journalism and "Paul Newman-esque" Philanthropy, so I don't blame him one bit! That being said, I just want to point out that you are very observant with the jaw clentching we've seen on CNN.

maynard said...

This is an ongoing soap opera. Addictive. Of course if we don't watch these people will go away. None of the 10 have a thing to offer. They are just getting rich because they came in multiples. The whole thing makes me cringe. How can they do this? How can we opt in to this scripted mess. Why do we care? When the money stops life may return to normal.

AC said...

Can't See Sheep said...

It must have irritated the heck out of him to find out kate would be on while he was co-hosting.

4/24/2010 8:28 PM

He didn't seem irritated or anything else when he was introducing and interviewing her. He laughed and talked and smiled...

I think so too said...

silimom said...

What's so funny about Kate asking Anderson that question? Well, aside from the fact that I personally can't see any reason why someone like Anderson Cooper would find Kate attractive, he's also gay.

4/24/2010 4:02 PM

I just thought it was a quip, nothing real or serious. Just back-and-forth banter like they always do with guests.

Ohio Buckeye said...

JonAndKateWho said, "...It's all so sad. Sad for the kids and a sad note on society itself that people are happy to accept the new reality format as good television. It really sucks, and most of TLC's reality programming is just pathetic and trashy. ...
No child should ever have their privacy sold out for a lifestyle."

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I am in total agreement! I find it disheartening that TV has sunk to this depth.

And I'm left wondering WHO are these viewers that find this trash programming 'entertainment'?????!

I am so past J&K+8. The kids were cute and probably still are, though I pro-actively try not to keep up with them except for here on GWoP.

J&K are talentless. K8 is absolutely obnoxious and off putting. Both J&K are completely over exposed and boring.

I'm sure I'm not the first nor will I be the last to claim apathy-about-the-Gosselins as my own.

Cry Me a River said...

No tears for Kate said...

There was a picture of several of the tups(no smiles) by the front door. Aiden was sitting on a step and had the saddest, most bewildered look on his face. It made me want to cry.

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Did you notice that he did not have his glasses on? How does she know those girls take good care of them when she is gone. Because they are still standing when she gets back? She doesn't and baby sitters can swear kids to secrecy just like Kate can. They are too young to be so totally responsible for 8 children virtually all the same age that their own mother can't bear to be around for extended periods. The woman is sick.

On a high note I think the Asian nanny is back, the one that acted like she cared about them but then she can't be there all the time. And it looks like Steve supports her in her treatment of the kids as I have never seen footage of him being nice to them in any way. She doesn't have to hold anything back when he is around. He knows her through and through. She can let it all hang out as evidenced by those cruel,cruel pictures of her leaving, pissed at the world as always. The only time she is happy is when she is away from them. Hooray for Life and Style and US and In Touch - for not selling out and buying into her pack of lies. I think I will become a subscriber.

Cry Me a River said...

Did she really have on Gloria Vanderbilt jeans on Regis and did she make reference to them? He does not like his mother's name to be used in any type of promotion for him.

He set out long ago to prove his own worth and has done so quite well. I wonder if a part of the reason he does not like Kate is because he knows what it is like to grow up in the spotlight with a very famous mother. She made it clear to him as him to her that he would make it on his own. She was in the audience on a show he was on once and it was quite interesting. I think it was Oprah.

Maybe his upbringing has made him become more successful as opposed to some who never made it out of the shadow of their famous parents. She must have done something right.

My point - seeing Kate on the make is about as pitiful as her dance. Disgusting and once again she made all the wrong moves. You already got a gray-haired man in your life lady, leave And4erson alone. He is way too classy for you and has morals and integrity. Anderson is 2BZ4UQT.

Cry Me a River said...

Does anybody know what part of Florida Kate is going to be in on the 26th and 27th. I just might be tempted to take one for team. I hear Florida is nice this time of year.

As an aside, I have never in my life heard of someone getting so many, many pedicures. Her feet must be atrocious. And her manicures look nasty, like she has been playing in dirt. Yes I am on a rant after seeing those poor, pitiful kids standing on doorstep and Kate and Steve not giving them the time of day. Absentee parents make good teammates.

Still Disgusted in TX said...

Ohio Buckeye said...
JonAndKateWho said, "...It's all so sad. Sad for the kids and a sad note on society itself that people are happy to accept the new reality format as good television. It really sucks, and most of TLC's reality programming is just pathetic and trashy. ...

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I am in total agreement! I find it disheartening that TV has sunk to this depth.

And I'm left wondering WHO are these viewers that find this trash programming 'entertainment'?????!
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Teenagers! It surprised me--though it should not have--that the audience who defends Kate are teenagers who don't have a clue! Ignorant and/or naive. They are the ones who are filling the boards with their chatting for "comments" on ROL, and attacks on GWOPers. And they flood the lines with texts and online votes for DWTS. They have no concept of privacy, nor an appreciation for it yet. I have had many a conversation with my teen nephews who are not as sensitive to it as we adults are. It's scary to me what the internet and technology etc. have done to the social acceptance of no privacy or confidentiality. It won't be until one of them is burned by the loss of privacy that they will realize how damaging it can be to have your life for viewing at the world's whim!

N.E. Psychologist said...

Cry Me a River said And just my personal opinion but I think the alleged mysterious 7th child (that she said ages ago was resorbed and not newsworthy) unveiled for the book was a reduction because it would not fit into her scenario to have an uneven number
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I don't thinreally k so, for K8 there's power in numbers, (mother of septuplets!) especially if it had turned out to be a girl.


AC said He didn't seem irritated or anything else when he was introducing and interviewing her. He laughed and talked and smiled...
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Like a true professional.

Jonandkatewho? said No child should ever have their privacy sold out for a lifestyle.
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Or their childhood.

N.E. Psychologist said...

A question for any of the attorneys among us- I kinow this is a longshot, but:

Could one or all of these children sue tlc for alienation of maternal affection?

I've reached the point where I am grasping at straws..........

borrowing from Brokeback said...

I try not to point and click on Gosselin stuff so as not to feed it but, yes, a weak moment on Just Jared...so a few observations for you who are more disciplined than I am today:

1) the kids are cute and getting bigger

2) some actually had a jacket on, although the ever-present Crocs on the feet continue to replace conventional shoes

3) Kate has on her usual frown

4) Jon was at the house while Kate was at the tanning salon nearby (wow, they cohabit the same space, after all the custody drama during DWTS..?..you'd think they wouldn't want to be within 100 miles of each other)

5) I view in awe again as to the beauty of that large home they "use;" the front doors alone with their leaded glass windows are just gorgeous...I live in the West and, even with the real estate meltdown, the Gosselin McMansion here would be worth a bloody fortune

6) Just scanned the bloggers at the end of the piece on the first page and every single comment was scathing and directed at Kate; very negative feedback

And as an aside, I was thinking about the Steve, Gray-Guy, bodyguard who, at one time, I thought was a little hunky. You know, he's not much of a bruiser, like the bouncer-type guys you see guarding the REAL celebs. Who's this Steve dude gonna tackle if it comes to that? Does he pack a piece? I'm beginning to wonder if GWoPpers are right, in thinking Stevio is there to protect people from Kate rather than the other way around. Enough has been said about her diva attitude...who knows how she might go off on people, even her "fans" wanting an autograph? After all, she really can't afford to alienate the sheeple. They're kind of her bread and butter.

Hoping I can log on for a few weeks of peace now instead of seeing her name on the homepage. DWTS is over, her book doesn't seem to be making any splashes; it's just a matter of when that recycled TLC show starts which I don't want to watch, although I hope GWoP will run some recaps.

Go disappear for a little while, Gosselin parents! Why don't you try to quit us?!!

lukebandit said...

it is sickening that kate dumped those poor kids off at the house, packed and jetted off to ny with her partner in crime steve. when is steve going home to see gina and the kids? if i was gina, there would be h**l to pay if this mess was going on.
i can't believe when kate was in LA she stayed not in a four star not good enough hotel, but a 5 star count `em ***** hotel were OBAMA stays when he is in LA.
grocery store gone, First Baptist messed up,
i am 47 years old and i live in a nursing home and i live 35 miles away from my hometown. last night a tornado hit my hometown and it has major damage everywhere. they have cancelled school for the year, grocery store gone, First Baptist messed up, chaos and no water, power for weeks, but kate continues to tan, mani-pedi, dump kids on nannies and sometimes jon, lets steve carry her purse and sometimes her dry cleaning, carry the sharpee box for the book signings, manhandle women that ask simple questions about exploitation of the kids, stroke a gay man's wrist asking him if he was available, wave off her daughter mady as if she was nothing to her, while she was getting into the back seat Celebrity Towncar and slams the door!

there are real people in this world that suffer, and your kids are suffering horribly.

jon please do something, for your kids.

K8STFU said...

Did you notice that he did not have his glasses on?

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Several people have commented on this. I could be wrong, but I THINK I remember K8 saying something about Aaden only needing his glasses for a few years to strengthen his eyes. (this was a while ago) I could be wrong tho.

Kate The Bachelorette? said...

readerlady (part of comment): "Scary that Khate is being touted as the next 'Bachelorette'. Unbelievable. In what universe is she a bachelorette? With 8, count 'em, 8 kids?
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Wow. That show must be really digging deep for contestants. Isn't Kate a little too old to be a bachelorette? They must be switching to a different demographic. I probably shouldn't comment...haven't watched that show in years since the girl won the firefighter guy from somewhere in the Rockies. Anyway, good luck with that, you TV producers! Can't wait to see what kind of guys are going to step forward for a woman with eight kids who is widely-criticized for being a shrew, a diva, a crummy mom, a high-maintenance celeb-wannabe, etc. Maybe some guys are the fame seekers just like she is one, so they'll do anything to get on TV. They'd probably deserve each other. As usual, the only ones who'd lose in the temporary storyline would be the children. In that regard, what ELSE is new?

YourMileageMayVary said...

LOL Next the Witch will be asking Ricky Martin if HE is available...
She is clueLESS!
I'm sorry for sounding like a kid=hater (I have seven, count'em SEVEN! myself..) but what man in his right mind would want Khate? I am serious. A) the number of kids B) HER OVERALL S**T*Y ATTITUDE, ALL the time C) Her "lifestyle" (I thought she didnt go "hither, thither and yon...?) D) Steve would necessitate it be a threesome, and I think polygamy is still technically illegal . Besides, NewMate might not find Steve-O attractive..not everyone likes whitehaired men.
LOL

i love to be surprised like this said...

(Quoting Kiki to Tami) Pa Mom Knows said:

"Pam is a big girl and can say what she wants to say. Others do so why wouldn't she?
. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
It's called "taking the high road." Some do, some don't. Some are respectful, others aren't. Obviously she wasn't about to bad-mouth anyone or name names. At least not yet!

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I believe I have under-estimated Pam Anderson for far too long. One thing after another I've read over the past couple of years convinces me that, despite the blond bombshell/Playboy girl routine, Pam is one smart, "together" kind of woman who certainly got her fame on her own without using her children. I hope she wins DWTS...GO PAM!

Shoshannah said...

I just posted this review on Amazon. Guess her new book isn't doing too well, since they've slashed the price!

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I flipped through this book while waiting for a friend at the bookstore.

Won't buy it. I'm saving my money for when Kate's mother writes a book about how difficult it was raising a narcissistic, demanding and ungrateful daughter.

Maybe she'll even include photographs of Kate on her little pink potty seat and show the contents, like Kate did on her TV show.

Those poor little kids, being used again by their fame-crazed, self obsessed mother.

Love is Just a Four Letter Word said...

(I've Heard).

For all K8"s constant carping about how she does it all for the kids and how much she "loves" (hearts) them, I wish that SOMEONE would ask her for her definition/desription of Love.
No Bible verses or other quotes. Just Kate's own words.

franky said...

OT: Wasn't it just this week someone mentioned Khate never does grocery-shopping..today, she's at grocery-store. Some-one mentioned never pap pix when Jon with kids, today, Pap fight and Jon supposedly uttering threats, and not only taking kids into woods for maybe, say, a pic-nic...no he takes them into Hunting Forest.

Talk about spin!

munner61 said...

My heart just breaks for these poor children. I watched the show faithfully for years, but when they moved to the new house, Kate just became too obnoxious to watch. She gabbed and mugged for the camera all of the time, it was all about her all of the time. Those babies never even got to enjoy the luxury of a bubble bath with a sibling. Jon was ordered to "shower them", boys together, then the girls. I really want to be on "Team Jon", because I saw the way she treated him and talked down to him, but he needs to step it up for his kids.

Freedom Is Everything said...

"I'm sure List was severe in his dealings with Jon telling him how to behave. Jon rebelled. He doesn't want people telling him what to do." I read this comment on PA Woman but I guess it came from silimom. Gave me pause.

For two relatively young adults, one strong-willed and another not liking being told what to do, the pressure of being owned by TLC must be tremendous for Jon and Kate. I couldn't stand to live with that kind of stranglehold and leash, no matter what kind of money was being deposited into my bank accounts. They'd better be careful, because the stress they've put themselves under will eventually get to them, and I don't just mean temper flare-ups. Sustained stress can eventually cause physical and emotional health problems (not speaking as a medical professional, only from firsthand experience); it's the cumulative effect.

I know that there have been things written about parents of multiples having a variety of problems (divorce? suicide?) but there have to be just as many who figured it out...how to live with so many kids and provide for them.

It's a shame Jon and Kate went down such a wrong road. They've sacrificed great years of their lives for the price of fame and the dangled carrot of cold-hard cash...and they further risk some terrible adult-to-adult relationships with the very children for whom they claim it was all for in the first place.

I wouldn't trade places with Jon and Kate Gosselin for anything. Look at their faces...when was the last time you saw a photo with a smile? My opinion is that they are two miserable people living miserable lives. Guess that's a good clue to how the kids' lives are going, too.

If it's as awful for strangers like us to witness in helplessness the complicated lives of the Gosselin children, what must it be for former friends and family of theirs who have little to no "say" in how they're being raised?

The television producers should rename the new reality show, "Maybe Jon, Definitely Kate, Plus Always The 8: Trail of Broken Hearts; The Gosselins' Sad Fate."

dustilies said...

Just so you don't have to go clicking around . . . there is some sort of story circulating on the gossip sites about two paps getting into an argument over who had rights to access. At one point, Jon apparently claimed he would have the right to shoot any pap who trespassed on the property (Jon, sweetie, get ahold of yourself). According to gossipcenter, the more powerful pap told Jon to conceal the family in the shrubbery, which he did. Soon, take-out lunch is delivered to the shrubbery-safehouse. This is all so ridiculous . . . but the most ridiculuos is that both ROL and gossipcenter are calling it a "hunting forest" to make it sound ominous, I guess. Looked like they ducked behind suburban landscaping to me. And if they did take lunch into the woods, I believe that's called a picnic.

Hippie Chick said...

I could be wrong, but they have already picked a Bacherlorette for next season. There is no way on God's green earth that any man, except for having 15 minutes of fame, would go on that show to be with that monster. She has 8 kids!! Who would want to marry that? Not to mention all the negative press she receives!
And if I am not mistaken, bachelorettes are not supposed to be divorced, I think. So, if they were planning on doing this type of show, it would be on TLC, and it would be a special for kate only. And it would be so, so wrong.
Man, she would do anything to stay away from those kids though. I wouldn't put it past her to do something like that. She is a famewhore. We all know that!
Again, I could be wrong. So, don't quote me! ~Peace & Love & Harmony

Once a Sheeple but Twice a GWoPper said...

Hey, Flintstone'sToes, I'm right there with ya: "The paps got pictures of Jon at home, but funny---no pictures of Kate leaving the driveway to go tan, just pix of her THERE already...hmmmm? Why don't they follow her to her 'place' upon leaving the parking lot?? Shall I start my reconciliation theory/scam again????"
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Just like bleetingsheeple said, "Jon and Kate are as thick as thieves," I'm just waiting for this..."they're back together." It's the old conspiracy theory back on track. Those two will do anything not to go back to their old jobs or their old life. I absolutely expect an attempt by Jon and Kate to further dupe me as a viewer and reader. Go ahead and try, Gosselins and TLC! You need to GET IT...game is OVER.

LM said...

A state official told TMZ on Saturday that all the labor permits had been approved for "Kate Plus 8," the summer spin-off series from "Jon & Kate Plus 8" featuring Kate Gosselin and her eight children.

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/entertainment/042510-pa-approves-new-kate-gosselin-show

Midnight Serenade said...

"I'm just waiting for this..."they're back together."

And I suppose he's one of the bachelors on the show when she's the next Bachelorette!

BeDoneNow said...

dustilies said...
Just so you don't have to go clicking around . . . there is some sort of story circulating on the gossip sites about two paps getting into an argument over who had rights to access. At one point, Jon apparently claimed he would have the right to shoot any pap who trespassed on the property (Jon, sweetie, get ahold of yourself). According to gossipcenter, the more powerful pap told Jon to conceal the family in the shrubbery, which he did. Soon, take-out lunch is delivered to the shrubbery-safehouse. This is all so ridiculous . . . but the most ridiculuos is that both ROL and gossipcenter are calling it a "hunting forest" to make it sound ominous, I guess. Looked like they ducked behind suburban landscaping to me. And if they did take lunch into the woods, I believe that's called a picnic.
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Oh dear, I am soooooo confused! I thought a Gosselin-Picnic was on the concrete driveway or smack in the middle of the front lawn so the paps COULD get their shots. I mean, come on - food in the woods with your children and NO PHOTOGS TO TAKE AND SELL PICS??? How can that be a Gosselin-Picnic? Kate must be furious: a perfectly reasonable afternoon and no money made off the kids. No wonder she thinks Jon is useless.

But seriously, what a horrible thing for small children to witness from their own safe home. So sad.

LiddowKidsMother said...

Just saw a pic of Hate on TMZ going thru some airport with the army. (No Steve though---??) Anyway, the kids look severely depressed; heads down, etc. oh and the hair is still hanging in the girls' faces. Those "liddo" kids are getting BIG! And KHate??? Stop dressing the "Liddo" kids alike;it's looking pathetic now.

Minka's Tail said...

I am also becoming open to the conspiracy theory again. I think there's a 75% chance that Jon's "lawsuit" was an act and a 25% chance that the whole divorce was.

Here's why.
I have read Kate's new book, and it is very strong on the pity party factor. She had so many kids, it was so expensive, etc. Now, someone at TLC said she "popped"--meaning, I guess, she had that X factor that TV execs like so much. She was pretty (before all her work), she had a unique way of speaking, she played to the camera, whatever. They decided they could make a franchise on her, like the Food Network and Oprah did with Rachael Ray.

Of course, Rachael has some real talent in the culinary arts field. It's not just saying EVOO all the time, she actually has to cook and/or develop recipes that are easy to make. With Kate, there was no underlying talent, except that she supposedly handled adversity well. She cut coupons, she had all these super organized ways of doing things, she fed her children on whatever a week. That was her appeal, and her only appeal, to those who might like her. I liked her at first for those reasons.

A few years into the show, she's wealthy, the kids are not needing to be carried or changed, etc., she has a stay at home hubby who goes on insurance websites all day. There is no reason to admire or pity her any more. BUT, if she's a SINGLE MOM, well, there you go. Everyone feels sorry for a single mom. Especially a SINGLE MOM who has to work to put food on the table!

I think there's a real chance that this divorce, (although I'm sure Jon wanted it), was done partially to keep up her brand of sympathy. I'm convinced that lawsuit by Jon was done for those reasons. I wonder what he's being paid by TLC, or if he's so stupid he just does whatever anyone says.

StoryLady said...

Lukebandit,
I'm so terribly sorry about your home town. I can't imagine how devasting it must be to go through something like that.
I had given up on the Gosselin Circus. Then I saw the picture of Aaden sitting on the steps, looking so lost and alone. Somehow, some way, those children can be saved.
I'm in it for the long haul, I guess . . .there will be justice for those children, somehow.

N.E. Psychologist said...

Hippie Chick said (snipped)
She has 8 kids!! Who would want to marry that? Not to mention all the negative press she receives!
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If she found a man who would marry her, it would probably be someone who genuinely loves kids. Therefore, he wouldn't be all about her.
Can you spell doomed relationship?
Dustlilies said
Looked like they ducked behind suburban landscaping to me. And if they did take lunch into the woods, I believe that's called a picnic.
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Apparently impromptu picnics (not arranged for and filmed by tlc) are verbotten. I didn't realize that they had moved to the middle of Sherwood Forest.

Ohio Buckeye said...

LukeBandit: so sorry to hear the sad news. Sending good thoughts your way. Hang in there.

GoPoshGo said...

dustilies said...
[snipped] According to gossipcenter, the more powerful pap told Jon to conceal the family in the shrubbery, which he did. Soon, take-out lunch is delivered to the shrubbery-safehouse. This is all so ridiculous . . .

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I read about this incident, too, dustilies. What strikes me as so very odd: WHY ON EARTH would Jon listen to the alpha-pap's instruction to hide with the kids in the bushes????? WTF is up with that??? Seems the tail is now wagging the dog.

If I were a bettin' woman, I'd wager that paps from other outlets encroached on ROL's exculsive territory [e.g., the McOrphanage]. The alpha-pap was likley from ROL, and shooed the Gosselins away while he tried to elbow out any competing paps.(????). The story is just so silly -- and the photos of the nine of them slinking off behind the shrubs are equally ridiculous.

TAKING DIRECTION from a P-PERSON???? When will this circus end?????

Khart Hanger said...

Cry Me a River said...
Did she really have on Gloria Vanderbilt jeans on Regis and did she make reference to them? He does not like his mother's name to be used in any type of promotion for him.
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I did not know that Gloria Vanderbilt was Anderson Cooper's mom. So, I did some more research. And here is what I found from wikipedia:

"She [Gloria Vanderbilt] became heiress to a half share in a five million dollar trust fund upon her father's death from cirrhosis when she was 15 months old.[4] The rights to control this trust fund while Vanderbilt was a minor belonged to her mother, who traveled to and from Paris for years, taking her daughter with her. They were accompanied by a beloved nanny young Gloria named "Dodo", who would play a tumultuous part in the child's life, and her mother's identical twin sister Thelma, who was the mistress (lover) of The Prince of Wales during this time. As a result of frequent spending, her mother's use of finances was scrutinized by the child Vanderbilt's paternal aunt Gertrude Vanderbilt Whitney. Whitney, a sculptor and philanthropist, wanted custody of the young heiress and soon a famous custody trial became the lead story of 1933.[5] The trial was so scandalous that at times, the judge would make everyone leave the room so as to listen to what young Vanderbilt had to say without anyone influencing her. Some people heard weeping and wailing inside the court room. Testimony was heard depicting the mother as an unfit parent; Vanderbilt's mother lost the battle and Vanderbilt became the ward of her Aunt Gertrude.


Gloria Vanderbilt at age eight (8) with her mother.Litigation continued, however. Vanderbilt's mother was forced to live on a drastically reduced portion of her daughter's trust. Visitation was also closely watched to ensure that Vanderbilt's mother did not exert any undue influence upon her daughter with her supposedly "raucous" lifestyle. Vanderbilt was raised amidst luxury at her Aunt Gertrude's mansion in Old Westbury, Long Island, surrounded by cousins her age who lived in houses circling the vast estate, and in New York City."

It's too bad the Gosselin 8 do have a paternal Aunt like Aunt Gertrude.

Maggie said...

Just heard that the reason Jon rounded the kids into the bush was because Kate showed up demanding to see the children. It was not her day! This is really sad for the children. I will leave it to you sleuths to determine if this is true or not!

KatesDirtyFlintstoneToes said...

Once a Sheeple but Twice a GWoPper said...
Hey, FlintstonesToes, I'm right there with ya: no pictures of Kate leaving the driveway to go tan, just pix of her THERE already...reconciliation theory/scam-"they're back together." Those two will do anything not to go back to their old jobs or their old life.
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Yep, Radar is paying them well, and Yep, I feel its getting closer to reconciliation. You see, No one wants Kate, no one wants Jon, neither wants to be alone, they'll be stuck with each other in the end. She's at the house when He's at the house, etc.

I truly don't think she ever left the house during Jon's visitation--no proof..just all one big scam.

Still Disgusted in TX said...

The paparazzi told Jon to hide the kids in the brushes/behind trees? How about that moron just take the kids back inside the house???? Sick people. How stupid does he think we are???

Skywatcher said...

Storylady-I agree 100% with what you said.
Lukebandit-I too am sorry about what your hometown has gone through. We slept in the family room last night incase we needed to flee to the basement (we live in Atlanta). My family and I watched the weather channel and our hearts broke with the pictures coming from LA, Miss, and AL. God bless you and know you are all in everyone's prayers.

I too will remain loyal to GWoP forever. I don't understand how no one has come forward with a tell-all book except for the fact that the power of TLC w/ Kate (for now) could scare anyone away. Too bad I don't have the inside scoop. I am not scared-I too have money-that we made w/o pimping out our children. 'nough said!

K8STFU said...

The paparazzi told Jon to hide the kids in the brushes/behind trees? How about that moron just take the kids back inside the house???? Sick people. How stupid does he think we are???

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Why didn't the kids just hide out in their $4000(each) custom Crooked Houses ?

Lurker said...

Are there really that many "paparazzi" outside their home? It would be funny if they (J&K) were taking pictures of each other with the kids at home and selling them-that way they would be cutting out the "middle man"..

K8STFU said...

lukebandit:

sending good thoughts to you and yours............ =(

K8STFU said...

Khart Hanger (love all these handles!) -

Thank you for posting that VERY INTERESTING article about Gloria Vanderbilt. I knew she was Anderson's mom but didn't know her background other than being a famous designer from long ago.

Maybe Gloria's story is one of the reasons why Anderson is not a fan of K8's ? Too many similiarities between his grandma and K8.

Aunt Gertrude did a wonderful job - Anderson seems very down to earth and he actually worked his way up to being the respected journalist he is today (although,I wish he would have stuck it to K8 during Regis and Kelly).

lukebandit said...

thank you for your kind words about my hometown. my mom got power back on today, but the pictures are horrible. a lot of people got hurt 33, but no one killed, Praise God!

do you think it is possible that the pap told jon to hide in the shrubbery because he knew kate was on her way, because kate called him? because jon took the kids in the bushes, kate will milk this to the hilt.

get ready oprah! lol

Liisa K. said...

I just found this on the Lillian Glass blog (she's a body language expert) about Kate's body language on DWTS. Classic!
http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2010/03/30/kate-gosselin%E2%80%99s-toxic-personality-comes-out-on-dancing-with-the-stars-as-she-not-only-disrespects-her-teacher-tony-dovolani-but-the-other-contestants/

fidosmommy said...

Skywatcher said....
I too will remain loyal to GWoP forever. I don't understand how no one has come forward with a tell-all book ...

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So, why not write one? GWoP's
fictional tale of a young family with loads of kids who strike out into the land of reality TV. Their names could be Brad and Mindy
Carver or Jim and Teresa Matthews. Tell the lengths
to which the parents would go to find fame and fortune and to raise the kids they tricked science into getting, and how they bilked the masses out of their dollars. You know the stuff to include!

When Kate Gosselin gets wind of it,
she could either say "Oh, that's not about me, doesn't add up with my story" and you'll have a
blockbuster book, or she could say
"How DARE you make money off MY story!", thereby admitting to much she is in denial about in her
wheelings and dealings. And you'll still have a blockbuster book, even if you do have her lawyers biting your heels.

Oh, what a fine fictional tale (based on a true story) that would make! Why, Lifetime TV might even make it into a TV movie, starring
Pamela Anderson!

Shohanna said...

How can Jon, who has no job, afford to pay Kate $22,000 per month for child support and/or alimony?

Hmm... Isn't that the amount that TLC used to pay
him?

I'm wondering if they didn't force him to sign over
his entire portion of his income to Kate. Does this make sense?

Jane in CA said...

Lukebandit,

My thoughts and prayers go out to your hometown, you and everyone affected by the damage :(

You put everything into the proper perspective. Kate lives only for attention, luxury and self-indulgence. Real people are suffering and she could care less. Her own children are miserable and she could care less.

StoryLady said...

fidosmommy said...
Skywatcher said....
I too will remain loyal to GWoP forever. I don't understand how no one has come forward with a tell-all book ...

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So, why not write one? GWoP's
fictional tale of a young family with loads of kids who strike out into the land of reality TV...

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You know, I have thought of this. I am not talented enought to write it, but maybe someone here is. Or several of us could collaborate. We have a lot of the facts. We could change the names and other details to sell it as 'fiction'.
There wouldn't be a thing Kate or TLC could do about it. If they sued, they would have to prove what was written was NOT true.

Maggie said...

Speaking of writing things, does anyone have a link to where Kate spoke of being glad that they lost the "seventh child"? It was probably on the show, but can't remember when, maybe first episode? You can e-mail me at shatzie1980@yahoo.com. Many thanks!

Darcy said...

I can't find anything where Khate said she left DWTS because she chose to "sacrifice herself" to benefit the other dancers - does anybody have a link?

Not that I'm doubting she said it - it sounds just like someone with her level of narcissism!

Savannah said...

Oh my goodness, what would Kate Gosselin do if everything just came to a grinding halt?
It just sickens me to see pictures of her coming out of tanning salons and Targets, etc. Who fricking cares already? Please let it be over soon. Hopefully these 2 shows or whatever will mark the end of her and the whole Gosselin scene. God Bless the children. You can see on their little faces that they have had enough. I just can't stand to see this disgusting excuse for a human being everywhere I look. By the way, with all her money-does she contribute to any charities? Manicures, pedicures, tanning hmm...what a greedy bi*ch! She's famous for being a Mom...and she's anything but! Stay home and take care of your children! Please Wake Up People!

Monster Mommy said...

I would just like to say- I think the paps fighting, while kids are in the woods was an indication of what is to come... and it transpired many years ago.

Also, most of us living in L.A. County, live hand-to-mouth... We struggle every month... we eat what's left for the week. Not what's Organic or whatever the heck Kate decides is cool, or cheesy doodle enough for her to serve on Bald Head Island, NC.

Can't See Sheep said...

@lukebandit, so sorry to hear about your hometown, glad no one was killed. It is sickening that these things happen & kate is staying at 5 star hotels, being pampered beyond ridiculous, all while others do without.

@Kate's Nemesis, thank you very much for the compliment & thank you so much for the verification, I've been trying to find the main clip of AC 360 that I was talking about. I didn't know all of that about him, but thank you for enlightening me. Makes sense he wouldn't think much of Paris either. Can't say I blame him, I wouldn't want either one of them taking up time on my show either. I was pleased when I saw how much he tries to make his own mark in the world without name dropping his famous mom every two minutes.

He probably doesn't want his show to end up looking like NGrace's, or any of the other shows that promote the likes of kate & Paris. I didn't know about his philanthropy, but I suspected. I'm glad he doesn't have kate on his show & I was even happier to see him not wish to speak of her in any light, positive or negative, he simply didn't not want her taking up even a minute of his show in any way. So because of this, I find I put it on AC's show more often.

Can't See Sheep said...

Minka's Tail said...
She had so many kids, it was so expensive, etc. Now, someone at TLC said she "popped"--meaning, I guess, she had that X factor that TV execs like so much. She was pretty (before all her work), she had a unique way of speaking, she played to the camera, whatever
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Don't ticks pop?

K8STFU said...
Maybe Gloria's story is one of the reasons why Anderson is not a fan of K8's ?
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That's what I think, the whole thing could be a little to close to home for AC perhaps & well, he knows how it all turned out for his mom. He might also have an idea how the kids feel what with being from a famous family with all the attention that comes with it.


KatesDirtyFlintstoneToes said...

regarding the Regis interview..anyone think it was odd that her book wasn't mentioned, and neither was her new show(s)??
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I didn't watch, but that is weird. I mean isn't that what she's supposed to be doing now, flogging that crap between covers she calls a book to anyone who's boss is forcing them to listen to her flap her gums. It's also weird that she says so little about her show, just the same lines over & over, or at least that I've seen, haven't seen everything, watching her for more than a minute or two is too nauseating.

Can't See Sheep said...

Jon saying he can shoot someone if they go onto his property, or something similar, that's too obvious, I don't believe for a moment that anyone is stupid enough to say that to a person with a camera, even Jon. This makes me suspect all the more that Jon a TLC paid yoyo still at their beck & call, as this is the kind of idiotic drama TLC loves to create, we saw it on their program. High school soap opera drama. i wouldn't be surprised to see Jon & kate attempting to reconcile either, but more because that's TLC's, kate's & Jon's only way of keeping the cash flowing, since everything else has been attempted & not worked out. Yep, a part of me suspects being played.

Cry Me a River said...

Is Jon not allowed in the house during his stay, why didn't he take them inside. The whole situation was alarming to them I am sure. I don't get these people with the food thing - is Jon going to sit and eat the take out in front of the children because there is certainly not enough for all of them. There is just 2 of us and a couple of friends and my take out is huge.

And then of course KG has to get in on everything, they are saying she showed up in the middle of this, "demanding to see the kids" and may have brought the small packet of food (which would make sense because she has no concept of what it takes to feed an army of 8, let alone the accompanying adults).

I hate to see these poor kids put in the middle of all this. How on earth are they going to get them in shape for filming, they are pitiful. Their spirits appear to be broken hanging their heads, shying away, fearful, tearful.

Also there is something different about Jon that I can't quite put my finger on. He looks tougher, more mature and quite frankly, more handsome. Less jelly, I think he may be working out - looks like there might be muscles underneath those clothes. Hmmmm...good for him. In any event a man has a right to protect his children from the paps.

If there is a rogue pap infiltrating the manipulated ROL pics we may start to see some more interesting pics of Kate and her constant companion. I wish someone would blow her cover wide open. Pap wars have blown a many, I am sure.

chesterctymom said...

Just saw the pics of Khate with a full shopping cart of grocerys...after it was pointed out that she nevers has more that a bag or 2 when she leaves the grocery store...and she needs someone to help her load the grocerys into her car...

ChurchMouse said...

Here's the thing.

We can all make comments about how many times Ms. Gosselin goes to get mani/pedi/tanning treatments, but those comments would just roll off her back.

She probably justifies the expense as necessary to her career. "I need to do this to, um, feed my kids."

There's a book out called, "Mistakes Were Made But Not By Me," by Carol Tavris. I picked it up from the library. It's all about how people justify their actions with the use of "cognitive dissonance."

Basically that means ignoring the facts to excuse bad behavior and poor choices. Sound like anyone we know?

Kartzilla no more! said...

I am so far behind in reading everyone's post so please forgive me if this is a "duh" post.

There were some issue about Kate going home and only spending an hour with the kids on Thursday before driving off and tanning.

If the TMZ airport pics/date and ROL home pics/dates are accurate than I guess Kate had the kids from Saturday through Thursday in LA. Flew back with them to Maryland, drove them home, got her stuff and left for NY to film Regist and Kelly. Jon arrived soon after and had them for the weekend.

You can see the kids wearing the same clothes at the airport as they were when standing with sad looks and watching Kate go.

ChurchMouse said...

"StoryLady said...
...I am not talented enought to write it, but maybe someone here is. Or several of us could collaborate. We have a lot of the facts. We could change the names and other details to sell it as 'fiction'..."

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Hi, StoryLady. If you want to collaborate on a script/story with fellow Gwoppers of your choice, you all could use something called, "Google Docs."

Google Docs allows someone to set up a document on the Google "cloud." Basically, you sign in, create a document, and then can choose other people to share it. They then have permission to go in and edit it.

This also works well if you belong to a group, such as a Gardening Club, for example, and you want each member to contribute towards a newsletter.

It's free, legal, and easy to use. Just Google, "Google Docs." Or go to "docs.google.com"

It's also handy for people who do have access to the internet, but don't have a word processing program like Microsoft Word on their machine. Lots of templates, too, for everything from resumes to reports and letters.

Hope this helps!

KatesDirtyFlintstoneToes said...

Can the sheeple ever realize how much Kate despises them?? During the episode "Kate reads viewer mail" she flung each letter on the floor after reading it? Very telling of how she feels about her "fans"...and that was just a small example...Maybe someday they'll realize.

KatesDancingHooves said...

Dr. Lillian Glass said: "you can’t make a successful TV talk show personality out of an ITLESS, clearly emotionally dysfunctional and disturbed woman with a miserable and hateful personality as Kate appears to have in my view. It will ONLY backfire."

(I hope the 2 new shows tank rapidly. Everyone is starting to figure Kate out! Thank you Lillian!!!)

Read this, it's awesome!!:

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2010/03/30/kate-gosselin%E2%80%99s-toxic-personality-comes-out-on-dancing-with-the-stars-as-she-not-only-disrespects-her-teacher-tony-dovolani-but-the-other-contestants/

Ohio Buckeye said...

Minka's Tail said, "...Now, someone at TLC said she (K8G) "popped"--meaning, I guess, she had that X factor that TV execs like so much. She was pretty (before all her work), she had a unique way of speaking, she played to the camera, whatever."

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It seems that what "POPS" for current tv execs is a lack of maturity and/or a deficit in mental health status.

Presumably it is the DRAMA these two factors bring to tv that the tv execs insist are 'entertainment'.

Current TV execs greatly underestimate their viewers. I, for one am sick of it and of the tv execs who continue to try to cram this tv crap down our throats.

LisaCT said...

http://www.inentertainment.co.uk/20100426/kate-plus-8-gosselins-new-reality-show/

2badsosad said...

K8STFU said...
The paparazzi told Jon to hide the kids in the brushes/behind trees? How about that moron just take the kids back inside the house???? Sick people. How stupid does he think we are???

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Why didn't the kids just hide out in their $4000(each) custom Crooked Houses ?

The Konpound consists of some 20+ acres of property. Most certainly there HAS to be a portion of the Konpound where the children can play outside and are secluded from the intrusion of the paparrazi.
J & K continue to plop their eight children on the driveway or in FRONT of the home giving the paparrazi full advantage. Hiding the children in the 'hunting forest' to escape the paparrazi while waiting for their DELIVERED 'fast food'? Are you serious? IDIOTS!!

just wondering said...

Jon & Kate have their own TLC approved photographers from INFphoto and the Gosselins get a cut of the profits from any photo published. That is why there are so many staged photo ops. Apparently another pap showed up and the McMansion(one they do not have a deal with) and Jon told him to get lost and hid in the bushes.

INFphoto took all of the NC beach photos on the private beach in NC, the Easter shots, and any of the pictures of the kids in matchy clothes. Always check the photo credit given to the pictures and if you see that it was taken by INFphot you know it was staged.

pez1476 said...

Ok so I live about an hour to an hour and a half from them, and I just saw on our local news that the state labor board has cleared the kids to be on Kate + 8. Nice. Way to take control of the situation. We have all these state and government agencies why? Kate should live my life supporting a family of four while being laid off for almost 2 yrs with my husband working from sun up till sun down to try to make ends meet. Oh and did I mention that both my children have asperger's and my 20 month old still isn't talking or following direction......

Lesleigh said...

And if I am not mistaken, bachelorettes are not supposed to be divorced, I think. So, if they were planning on doing this type of show, it would be on TLC, and it would be a special for kate only. And it would be so, so wrong.
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There have been many, many Bachelorettes/Bachelors that have been divorced. The current Bachelor, Jake, chose Vienna, who is divorced. Several others have also been divorced, so I guess that is not an issue.
HOWEVER, seeing Khate on Bachelorette... can't wait to see her schmoozing in a hot tub, crawling all over the "bachelors", parasailing and kissing every single one with abandon... as she shouts...wait for it.....I'M DOING IT FOR MY KIDS! Will you accept this rose......H**L NO!

PA Mom of 2 said...

From Gossipgirls.com

"Jon and Kate Gosselin were spotted co-existing at home in Reading, Pennsylvania.

The “Jon and Kate Plus 8” parents took care of some domestic duties, with Jon doing a little work around the house while Kate ran some errands and did some shopping"
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More proof (and lies) about how Kate goes to undisclosed location while Jon has custody--She's never left the McMansion when it's Jon's time!!

Lies, Lies

SafetyTrain said...

Probably the only hope the kids have of going free is to become of age or emancipated and convince a court that their parents did not have the right to legally encumber them. However, as the laws are now, the parents apparently did have that right.
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Unless the courts get involved and protect these kids SOON I'm sure TLC will be right there with contracts/non-disclosure agreements the minute these kids can legally sign a contract. They will certainly do all they can to pay them off and muzzle them which is why tell-all books will never see the light of day if TLC can help it. I agree with others that TLC KNOWS that it can be in big trouble for what they did to these kids - that's why they're giving Kate the star treatment when she clearly has no talent, why they're destroying Jon, and personally I think that's why they tried to pay Kevin and Jodi back on J&K8. It wasn't because they wanted to compensate them for their time - it was probably because they knew trouble was brewing and wanted to shut them up (and Kate was too stupid to even realize that). What a nightmare all of this is. This is gonna drag out for years.......

Rose said...

Okay, everyone needs to go to the link that Liisa K posted earlier!!! It's the article that body language expert Dr. Lillian Glass wrote about Kate, and it is brilliant! If you are disgusted with Kate's constant charade to the point where you no longer have any words to say about it, then read what Dr. Glass has to say. This is very refreshing. I especially liked how she responded to Tony walking out on Kate early in the show, and how she thanked him for coming back because so many people have "quit on her" in life. Here's what Dr. Glass had to say about that:

"WHAT????? It’s like a child killing his parents and then playing the victim card that he is upset that he is now an orphan!! Well if he hadn’t killed his parents in the first place he wouldn’t be an orphan."


Spot-on!!! Jon did not just "walk out" on poor, innocent Saint Kate. She verbally attacked him and drilled him into the ground until he literally could no longer stand to be anywhere near her. Her brother Kevin and sister-in-law Jodi did not "walk out on her". They tried to help, they offered free baby-sitting in addition to their own large family, and when Kate didn't like that they didn't agree with every little self-destructive act of hers, she cut her children's aunt and uncle out of their lives. Same with the rest of her family. What, Kate? You think we're not smart enough to think for ourselves? We know full well that you are not the victim here.

Then Dr. Glass wrote a few bullet points at the end of the article for the remaining sheeple who will no doubt write in, call her names, call her a "jellus hater", and so on. Among other things, Dr. Glass said that to those of you who say Kate is a wonderful mother, it is NOT your place to make that call, and you have no right to say if she's a good mom. That's for the Gosselin kids to determine when they become adults and are old enough to really understand what kind of parents they grew up with, just like the rest of us. Oh, Dr. Glass, you say it the way I wish I could. Thank you for your honest perspective! (And again, please view that link if you haven't yet!)

Vanessa said...

On Just Jared, there are some shots of Kate and Tony I'm guessing taken after she was voted off. Of course she's all smiley with her new chichlet teeth. Nothing like the pap shots of her coming out of the nail place with her Dunkin Donuts cup. BUT there is a headline to click on and the caption says "WIN A DATE WITH KATE GOSSELIN"

Vanessa said...

Oops, sorry! I didn't click on it before I posted, it's just a teaser to get you to read about her banter with Cooper Anderson on R&K.

She's such a Phoney said...

I've been posting this forever and it doesn't seem to go through. I'm trying again. There is a whole play going on here. When Kate's popularity is down or like on DWTS her dancing sucked - Jon pops up with something to supposedly throw against her - like a court battle over the kids. As soon as things quiet down and her pity party has got her what she wants or TLC has gotten the attention they need - Jon backs off and fires his lawyer! Like did you really think that Jon's father had left death wish instructions to watch over his son? Scenes like this have been going on now for quite a while. Remember the 5 million dollar lawsuit? Remember the other lawyer, Heller? Even the girlfriends are in on all of this!! I mean come on, Hailey Glassman shed a few very phoney tears as well. TLC has Jon on contract to throw up these smokescreens whenever necessary and for their part it works!! She cries a river, throws out a few "oh woe is me" and there you have it! These two never and I repeat never are far away from each other! They have made a pact with the devil and are throwing their one-two punches all around.

What gets me is that they have no charity and no soul. They want everything - yet give nothing. No pleges or involvement in earth disasters, i.e., Haiti or storm damage in our country. No involvement in our soldiers fighting in foreign wars. She made a gigantic ass of herself when they visited St. Judes. She walked through barely acknowledging anyone and the gifts she brought might as well have been from the 99 cent store!!

No they don't deserve all your conversation - TLC and these two revel in all of this. Its what keeps them alive!! As for the kids - well they're are what they are - you can't change the course of their lives for them. They're entangled in the nightmare of Khate and Jon Gosselin and TLC.

Cry Me a River said...

Has anyone here ever seem the Kadie as a teenager animations on Utube. I could swear they were based on you know who, not only as a teenager but even today. They are hard to find but I have lucked up on them a few times. Hilarious and one cannot help but think of this other Kate we now. Don't want to give her any ideas - she will be crowing they didn't pay her like with the wigs.

Ohio Buckeye said...

MAMA NEEDS NEW SHOES!!!!
and new boobs
and new nails
and new hair extensions
and more tanning sessions
and more mani's and pedi's
and more hooker attire - gotta
fill up that acred mansion MAMA needed to feel important.

So, it's officially back to work for The Gosselin Eight.

Gotta keep trying to make MAMA happy afterall. (Talk about Mission Impossible!)

Poor kids - and we thought Abe Lincoln abolished slavery....

Kate is a loser said...

KateIsALoser said...

I went to the Lillian Glass website on Kate's body language during DWTS and it was spot on. She's turned off a lot of people and I think TLC and Khate are going to have a rude awakening that their little K Plus 8 show isn't going to get the ratings it once had because America can't stand her. It's good to be able to come to a website that sees her for who she truly is instead of all the kissups out there in Ca. I truly hate her guts!!

Those poor, WORKING children said...

Doesn't it just break your heart, that these kids have NEVER known anonymity?? Imagine making your kids--YOUR KIDS--have work permits so everyone can eat. I bet KI is mad that part of the income generated must now be put aside for the kids!

This family is an American tragedy.

KI may be able to stay afloat for the near future, but there is just NO WAY she can continue to pull in the required income needed to afford her lifestyle.

NoUse4Kate said...

OK, those of you who are floating the reconciliation idea may be right. The PR/brainwashing machine is turning over at ROL. Why all of the sudden interest in Jon? Why the pics of Hate and Jon at the orphanage on the same day? Where are the bashing, blasting and snide remarks towards Jon by the idiots that run ROL? The old biddies that post over there will in no time be hoping J&K get back together. Then TLC can pick up where they left off?

I really want to be wrong on this.

SAHM said...

Anonymous Shohanna said...
How can Jon, who has no job, afford to pay Kate $22,000 per month for child support and/or alimony?

Hmm... Isn't that the amount that TLC used to pay him?

I'm wondering if they didn't force him to sign over his entire portion of his income to Kate. Does this make sense?

4/25/2010 8:21 PM
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I think you are on to something.... All of it just doesn't sound right to me. Jon doesn't have a job but can afford to pay $22,000/mo in C/S?? If he wasn't paying, I am sure that Kate would be all over that by filing paperwork w/ the courts and running to the tabloids. I know any time my ex was late paying, I immediately reported it to the courts, even had his DL suspended once.

What i think is that when Jon lifted his ban on not allowing TLC to film the kids, he and TLC agreed that Jon would still get paid X-amount of money till X-date. Then when he went back to court w/ Kate - it was decided that X-amount of money from his X-amount in earnings from TLC would go towards C/S. When his contract in May(supposedly) is up, he can go for a reevaluation of the C/S and have it adjusted to his new income... whatever it may be.

If they are both hell bent on becoming celebrities, because this is the "only" way they can provide for their family", then they need to just pack everyone up and move to NY or LA. They aren't going to become celebrities in Reading, PA. I personally think its because they are too lazy to go get real jobs or go back to the jobs they once had. I think they both need to stop shoving their kids into the spot light and let the kids decide when they are capable enough to make decisions on their own as to whether they want to be an actor, etc. I don't like how Kate keeps trying to make money off of them to support a lifestyle that she has become accustomed to.

KateIsALoser said...

FYI...The new Bachelorette has already been chosen: Ally who came in 4th when Jake was the Bachelor last season. I hope that still stands. I hope people don't think her only fans (or sheeple) are Christians. I am a Christian and I can't stomach the woman. You can rest assure, the narcississtic people that I've known always end up shooting themselves in the foot. Along with running people who love them out of their lives.

Kit said...

Win a date with Kate Gosselin

Second place in that contest is TWO dates with Kate...LOL

Vanessa said...

The sad part is that it took a Child Labor Investigation to FORCE Ms Mother of the Year to put aside money, money those kids EARNED!
She still gets to reap more $ than the kids do, and SHE'S the only one who truly wants to have these `reality` shows!

Aislinn said...

I just read the book "The Glass Castle" by Jeannette Walls about a girl and her siblings being raised in poverty by the most dysfunctional parents ever. It reminded me a lot of the Gosselins, how the parents could be so focused on their own selfish whims that they never just do what would be best for the children. The children ended up having to fend for themselves to survive.

I'm just bringing it up to show that sometimes you can have the worst parents in the world, but still turn out okay, and I sincerely hope that's what will happen with the Gosselin 8.

Aislinn said...

SAHM said...
"I think you are on to something.... All of it just doesn't sound right to me. Jon doesn't have a job but can afford to pay $22,000/mo in C/S?? (snipped)"

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Isn't 20k a month about the same amount Britney Spears used to pay Kevin Federline in child support for their two young sons? It's unbelieveable that Jon has to pay the same amount as a world-famous pop star worth millions. How much money do the Gosselins have??

Katrina said...

Just an FYI Kate will be traveling now thru next week and beyond on her Book Tour: interesting that she was booted off the show last week. Georgia 4/24 - 4/25 Florida 4/26 - 4/27 Virginia 4/28 - 4/29 then PA/NY/NJ 5/2 - 5/7 Michigan 5/13 - 5/14

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What day is the 'tups' birthday? Is she at least going to be home for that?

MickeyMcKean said...

To: Ms. Nancy Doyle Palmer, Huffington Post

Re: Your article found at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nancy-doyle-palmer-/kate-gosselin-and-fame-co_b_551361.html

I would like for a legitimate journalist to do a REAL expose on the Gosselins. Not just Kate, but Jon and Kate. I'm not talking about an "armchair overnight" story, but a real investigative reporter story. Like in the old days. Are you up to the challenge?

I believe it is time for someone with a journalism background to find out what all the fuss is about. Why is it that with Kate in particular that there are "lovers" and "haters"? Why are there blog wars?

Another poster in this comment section who was in the media years ago has provided you with links from the local newspaper. The fuss is not just about recent incidents; it has been going on for a long time.

You admit you did not watch DWTS so you did not see how Kate used the "mom card" with every comment and appearance. Continued exploitation of her children at every turn. But you write a story about what a great mom she is and always has been.

I noted that you did not mention the nannies, housekeepers, landscapers, etc. that she has to do the work these days, things that mothers in the real world cannot identify with her. Kate is not struggling, and unless she continues to film the children, to make them work long hours even when they will only be paid 15% of the episode proceeds - to share/divided by 8 - Kate will have to go out and get a real job and it appears in her mind that is beneath her.

When did society decide it was OK for children to be born into a job? Since when is it up to the children to support their parents because the parents used medical science to create their multiple births on purpose?

At this point in time I feel that as a viewer something does not smell right. No, I'm not talking about the old show being called a reality show when as it turns out it was scripted. I'm talking about TLC paying off media folks to do "soft interviews", where it is obvious that they know what they can and cannot ask before Kate shows up. The interview with Nancy Morales, where TLC was incahoots with ABC to legitimize Kate was IMO a joke. Nancy asked some questions but after getting a response, Nancy did not follow through. Then to see that Kate was wearing an earpiece so she was being coached during the entire interview ... well, this is just a tip of the iceberg as to what all the fuss is about and why it has been going on for years.

So Ms. Palmer, how about it? Who knows, you might wind up writing a best selling book. Course if you want the easy way out, you probably could just ask TLC what it is worth it to them not for you not to go any farther than the article you wrote above.

Again, if there is any journalist out there who wants to write it from both sides, or better yet, an expose about what it is like for the children living in a fish bowl with their private moments forever captured on film, be my guest to do an expose. I, for one, am interested in someone digging into what is going on behind the scenes in the Gosselin world and letting the viewing public know what all the fuss is about.

JMO.

Anne said...

Don't worry about Kate being the Bachelorette. Ali, from Jake's season has already started to film the next season in March. There are already spoilers out there from people who have seen the filming. ABC has also announced after the Bachelorette they are having a show called the bachelor pad, this summer. It will be like big brother with past contestants, no one new, living in a house. After this the next season will be the bachelor.

Even if by some odd chance Kate is choosen we would not see her for at least a year. I can't see ABC doing 5 seasons of a show in one year. I also don't see Kate going on some VH1 type dating show. I think now that she has been on DWTS she wants the big time shows.

As much as I am not a Kate fan, if the she was the Bachlorette and she filmed it without the kids, it would probably make for some funny tv to watch. I have watched most of the seasons of the bachelor/ette and Charlie's was my favorite because he was so different. If dabcing was awkard for Kate I can't imagine dating on tv!

Lesley said...

"Win a Date with Kate"

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Wait. Win??? Sounds like a pretty awful prize to me.

Can't See Sheep said...

ChurchMouse said...

Here's the thing.

We can all make comments about how many times Ms. Gosselin goes to get mani/pedi/tanning treatments, but those comments would just roll off her back.
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This is so true ChurchMouse, but if you comment that it looks bad, it will bother her. All that money spent & she looks so much older than she did when she started all of this. That's not being mean, she really does look a lot older to me & not nearly as nice. kate is such a vain creature, any negative comment about her appearance will hit home every time. Normally I don't do this, but for kate I make an exception. Like everyone posting how terrible her mani looks, like she's got dirt under her fingernails, another one that is just an observation, because that's what I thought when I saw her fingernails. I thought has she been gardening? Then I remembered it was kate & no, she's not too likely to touch dirt, not even to put a lovely flower in the ground, someone might enjoy it.

@pez1476 sorry to hear, I hope things get better for your family soon!

That is not a "hunting forest", have these fools forgotten that you can see it from the satellite views. They really need to stop putting the kids on the front lawn & just let them play.

silimom said...

1) Okay, the kids have permits from the Department of Labor. Have all of the personnel that will come in contact with them submitted their background checks to the Department of Welfare? TLC needs to make sure they dot their "i's" and cross their "t's" on this one. Not crazy about the kids being filmed again, but if they're going to do it, I'd like them to be as safe as possible.

2) Kate & Jon reconciliation conspiracy - Anything's possible. It's just not all that probable. I really don't see it happening. I think when Kate says there's too much water under the bridge she's being honest (for once). Kate would never take Jon back because she'd look weak, and Kate can't ever be seen as weak.

3) Aislinn said...
I just read the book "The Glass Castle" by Jeannette Walls about a girl and her siblings being raised in poverty by the most dysfunctional parents ever...

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There are many children in this world being raised by self centered, narcissistic, dysfunctional parents. Classic line from the film "Parenthood": You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, to drive a car - hell, you even need a license to catch a fish. But they'll let any a-hole be a father (or a mother).

Yes, I take comfort in the fact that many children in these situations, regardless of socio-economic status, manage to rise above the lack of parenting they received and become functional adults.

The Gosselin children's saga isn't new, by any stretch of the imagination. We've just been allowed to watch it happen. It bothers me that more people don't seem to see a problem here and what that apathy or, from some, support (from the sheeple) says about our society in general.

Because of the quality of television in general, my husband and I have decided to get rid of our cable this summer. We can watch most shows online, YouTube or iTunes anyway. So we're going to get an AppleTV as well as sign up for Netflix and use our Wii to download movies on demand. We decided it was important to teach our children to think about what they're filling their brains with, whether it's reading a book, watching a television program, looking at a magazine or watching a movie. I'll let you all know how it goes.

tigerfan said...

PA Mom of 2 said...
From Gossipgirls.com

"Jon and Kate Gosselin were spotted co-existing at home in Reading, Pennsylvania.

The “Jon and Kate Plus 8” parents took care of some domestic duties, with Jon doing a little work around the house while Kate ran some errands and did some shopping"
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More proof (and lies) about how Kate goes to undisclosed location while Jon has custody--She's never left the McMansion when it's Jon's time!!

Lies, Lies

Wasnt one of the issue brought up by Jon is the custody legal papers was the agreement (between J & K) that Jon would reside in the apartment above the garage during his 'custody' and KATE was no longer ALLOWING him to do so?
I suppose Jon living above the garage and CO PARENTING/CO EXISTING with his ex wife and children conflicted with Kate's media persona of being a 'single' mother who has to do it ALL.

Aislinn said...

I read Lillian Glass's blog regarding Kate, and it seemed pretty spot on. But it does bother me that right below that she does an entry on Octomom's Oprah appearance, and thinks Octomom is wrong for not doing a reality show to help support her family.

Basically, Glass says Kate should not do a reality show because the kids are in school and it could affect their relationships with peers. But Glass says Octomom should do a reality show because she needs the money to pay for nannies and the mortgage. Come on! Children should never have to work to support their family, no matter what their age! Especially babies!

From Lillian Glass's blog:

"Say what you will about Kate Gosselin,, she never has to worry about having enough money for her kids. She may have to worry about other things like their psychological health. But she will at least have enough money to afford therapists for them in the future if and when they need one.

Love her or hate her, Kate has taken advantage of her situation and made a cottage industry out of her sextuplets as they are cared for financially, They will never starve to death and they have enough money in their trust funds to attend college if they choose to do so.’

This cannot be said for Nadya’s kids. People will continue to notice them and know who they are just because Nadya is their mother ,. Her excuse at wanting to givev them a normal life is naive. There is no way they will ever have a normal life based on their circumstances.

So in order to give them a better life, why not share them with the public and afford them opportunities they could never have? The one thing ,Kate Gosselin said about her show was that it gave the kids experiences and opportunities to do things they could never do because there was no money to do them.

For that reason alone Nadya should consider having them on a show, Besides people love watching babies grow, especially multiples as we saw from Jon and Kate Plus 8’s popularity."

silimom said...

Ms. Doyle-Palmer -

Other families of multiples have managed to provide for their children with limited media exposure just fine over the past 10-20 years. Some families that come to mind: The McCaughey's and the Dilleys. Yes, they have shared their story with the media to an extent. Yes, they received free diapers, food, furniture, and even a new home.

The difference between the Gosselins and these other families? Graciousness. Thankfulness and a strong commitment to making their children's lives as normal as possible.

Parenting multiples does present challenges above and beyond parenting just a few kids. Therefore, I ask you to compare Kate to her peers, Becki Dilley and Bobbi McCaughey. I believe that when you compare the three, you will find Kate lacking, as I do.

In fact, that would be a wonderful news show - have all three women on a primetime special of some sort. Let the public look at Kate through the filter of other multiple moms.

MickeyMcKean said...

Dear Mr. Anderson Cooper,

I DVR’d Friday’s episode of Regis & Kelly and I noted that you said how you were “mortified” about your mother and how Kelly’s son was “mortified” about her.

I also noted you did ask Kate Gosselin some “hard” questions that were not really answered. I know you are not a Kate Gosselin or Paris Hilton fan.

However, because you have a reputation of showing both sides of an issue, perhaps you are the journalist who may be willing to dig a little deeper to find out why Jon and Kate Gosselin, Kate in particular, has so many lovers and haters on the Internet.

Seriously, as a journalist aren’t you just a tad curious about what all the fuss is really about?

But more importantly, how about an expose from the viewpoint as to what is happening in the lives of the eight children?

I was a faithful fan of Jon and Kate Plus 8 until one day something did not smell right. I went to the Internet and found the Gosselins Without Pity blog and discovered I was not alone. Now there are other blogs but we all ask why is it that no one in the media asks Kate any real questions?

I believe Kate used her medical training as a nurse and used medical science to purposefully have multiples. Kate did not want "just one more"; no, she was hoping for a bunch and when it did not happen the first time, she tried it again and hit the jackpot with the six pack. As proof please note that Jon and Kate were marketing the kids before they hit the ground when they created the web site sixgosselins.com.

Jon and Kate have made a career out of exploiting their children and are continuing to find ways to do so. As it is they kept the six pack from starting regular kindergarten in September 2009 so they would be available for filming the TV show during the week. But when Jon had his “epiphany” and it mucked up the show schedule. Nevertheless they determined that an education was secondary to the children supporting the entire Gosselin family.

I assume you are aware of the recent hearing where Gloria Allred, Paul Peterson and others met with Representative Murt about rewriting child labor laws in regards to reality TV shows filmed in Pennsylvania. Kevin Kreider, Kate’s brother, and his wife, Jodi Kreider spoke at the hearing. Interesting to note that they mentioned the long hours the children had to work, the scripted episodes, and that the original TLC camera crew went to them regarding “moral issues” and then left this show to work elsewhere.

But perhaps the most disturbing thing to hear was that the State of Pennsylvania Labor Board took 19 months to investigate. They determined that (1) no work permits had been obtained and (2) the eight children should split 15% of the proceeds of the show. Not each child was to get their own trust account, no these eight children are to share 15%! This is criminal!

These children were born to work. Others are seeing what the Gosselins have done and have followed in their footsteps, i.e., Octomom and the Balloon boy family.

As a journalist who had to grow up with a famous parent, would you please consider doing a real expose on this Gosselin train wreck from their children’s point of view? Where two parents have no problem in living off the backs of their children? How these children growing up in a televised fish bowl with all of their private moments being captured on film and labeled as entertainment is harmful?

Please? Before one or more of the Gosselin children wind up in the headlines in some form of a self inflicted tragedy?

If your schedule is too busy or if you have a conflict of interest, can you at least find a journalist who is willing to take on this challenge? As it is I feel I’m a viewer who is being manipulated by TLC because they obviously are controlling the Gosselin stories popping up on radaronline.com. Is the money to be made off the Gosselin children worth sacrificing them?

Thank you in advance for reading this email,

Mickey McKean

SafetyTrain said...

Anne said...
ABC has also announced after the Bachelorette they are having a show called the bachelor pad, this summer. It will be like big brother with past contestants, no one new, living in a house.
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They really are scraping the bottom of the proverbial barrel. Who wants to watch this crap? Seriously, who????

PutASockInIt said...

re: "Win a Date with Kate"

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Wait. Win??? Sounds like a pretty awful prize to me.

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Yeah. The BOOBY prize.

Ohio Buckeye said...

@Pez1476: I'm so sorry all that is going on in your life. Best wishes to you and your fam.

Isn't JUST what you need now is a visit from Kate on her new show, "A Twist of Kate" to 'provide her insight'?

The whole premise of this new show is insulting: Kate Gosselin of all people on the planet is going to go around showcasing people with struggles and providing her oh-so-special insight. My GOD, how can TV execs possibly be THIS out of touch with the 'reality' they claim to be portraying in their pathetic programming????

"A Twisted Kate": if TV had ANY integrity at all, if they insist on featuring a person as emotionally disturbed as Kate Gosselin, the LEAST they could do would be honestly name her new show.

Ugh.

MickeyMcKean said...

I am sick and tired of hearing "it's all about the ratings".

Well, if you really want the ratings to go through the roof, it seems to me that if a journalist does a legitimate story on the Gosselins it will be a best seller.

I don't care if it is a televised expose or in a book that I'm sure will be a best seller for months, I want the truth to come out!!!

So folks I'm writing letters to journalists and asking them to do an expose. Writing on a blog is one thing, but something more needs to be done behind the scenes.

To say that I'm riled up this Monday morning would be an understatement.

I have to do something, and I've posted two letters that I wrote today. I will continue to write them and will not stop until I know that the Gosselin children are off the air and can live their life outside of a fishbowl.

It goes without saying that if others join me in writing letters it can only help to SAVE THE EIGHT!

bonehead said...

Well, Kate got her way. The kids are back on TV. I will not watch Kate show or the Kids. Kate is using them for her own self gain. The kids are now at that odd age and they are not cute anymore(even dressed alike). What really ticks me off is her need to go on TV and complain on how hard and terrible her life is, poor me. Or complaining about the paps, well don't have the kids play in the front yard where the paps are(that is what backyards are for) and dress them alike to draw attention to them. Kate is such an A***hole.

Lily said...

Katrina said...
Just an FYI Kate will be traveling now thru next week and beyond on her Book Tour: interesting that she was booted off the show last week. Georgia 4/24 - 4/25 Florida 4/26 - 4/27 Virginia 4/28 - 4/29 then PA/NY/NJ 5/2 - 5/7 Michigan 5/13 - 5/14
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What day is the 'tups' birthday? Is she at least going to be home for that?
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Mother's Day is the 9th and the tups birthday is the 10th. She will be home - now whether it's to celebrate her special day or the tups birthday is anyone's guess!

BMWoP said...

Darcy said...
I can't find anything where Khate said she left DWTS because she chose to "sacrifice herself" to benefit the other dancers - does anybody have a link?

Not that I'm doubting she said it - it sounds just like someone with her level of narcissism!

4/25/2010 11:10 PM



She said it while on Regis & Kelly last Friday.

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