Child Labor Law Hearing in PA

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MossHill said...
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MossHill said...

Gee, there's been some mopping-up ... there now exists a trust for the kids [15%] ... but no mention of actual labor practices ...

Seems we have a no-win after all - there will be money for them, but they'll still be *performing* to get it.

Midnight Serenade said...

"Seems we have a no-win after all - there will be money for them, but ttey'll still be performing to get it."

Actually, there will be legislature enacted to protect ALL kids in reality television in PA. TLC was in violation of not obtaining permits, but it was decided that no penalities will be forthcoming. In the future, though, they know that permits must be obtained. There was no trust for them in the beginning, but not there is an irrevocable trust. That's a start...

Charlie Rose said...

Regardless Kate will still be held up to the highest regard by many in the entertainment business as "providing for the children."

What a shame. She needs to be shunned.

Very proud of Kevin and Jodi for standing up for truth and what is right. Just as there is a special place in hell for Kate, there is a very special place in heaven for Kevin and Jodi.

Jane in CA said...

I was sorry to read a post on another thread that Jon tweeted that Kevin and Jodi were "backstabbers."

Jon - I really want to hold onto at least one shred of liking for you; to find some small redeeming value in you. But that tweet wears away at the one thin straw of respect I have left for you.

Boy, those Gosselin children really got a lousy deal in the parent department!

Midnight Serenade - do you think there will be laws put into place in PA to protect children on reality shows from labor abuses? If so, that is indeed good news. Of course, TLC will just bundle up the kids and move them to another state for filming if they want to evade the new laws.

I guess one possible glimmer of hope if Kate actually moves to CA is that there are some labor laws in place there to protect children being filmed.

Of course there was no money set aside for the kids until they were made to do so. That's no surprise!

Kathy B. said...

TMZ has a clip up with Kevin explaining how Christmas was faked for "reaction" from the kids. That's not psychologically damaging to young children TLC???

wramblinwreck said...

The irrevocable trust (15% of the gross for all shows) was only set up recently at the insistence of the PA Department of Labor, ie 15.

So Kate's statement that she made sure that money had been set aside for the kids is only half true. Yes, there was money set aside but only as a result of the Dept. of Labor's investigation.

And while TLC will not be penalized for past violations of the PA labor codes, but future filming will be monitored. That's probably why they're only doing a few "specials" this year including the kids, and the new series, "Twist of Kate" will only include Kate.

Midnight Serenade said...

"Midnight Serenade - do you think there will be laws put into place in PA to protect children on reality shows from labor abuses? If so, that is indeed good news. Of course, TLC will just bundle up the kids and move them to another state for filming if they want to evade the new laws."

Yes, I do. Sooner, rather than later. Antipated time frame is 3-4 weeks, but one of the representatives admitted that the hearing gave him lots to chew on, and it may take a bit longer. I think their goal is to have something in place very fast because filming will begin this summer. It's encouraging news, better than I've heard in some time. The hearing was extremely productive, with so many new things being revealed, especially in terms of what laws need to be put in place to protect the children when the parents cease to do so.

lalaland said...

I'm really glad this hearing occurred today and I hope good things come of it, especially to help any other kids in the future. I'm sad that it came too late for the Gosselins. The legislators seemed most upset about the potty training, etc. and any changes won't affect filming of Kate + 8 this summer b/c I don't think even TLC would air nudity of children aged 6. At least they never did of Mady and Cara at that age.

Captain of the Titanic said...

Although a trust fund had to be setup for the kids, it doesn't sound like it is retroactive. If that is true, those kids are each getting 2% of practically nothing since they are no longer being filmed.

And since it remains to be seen whether Kate plus 8 actually makes it to your tv screen, if it doesn't, the parents made a ton of money but the kids get virtually peanuts.

Can't See Sheep said...

wramblinwreck said...
So Kate's statement that she made sure that money had been set aside for the kids is only half true. Yes, there was money set aside but only as a result of the Dept. of Labor's investigation.
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This is so sick, how could you bilk your own small children of cash. They were the draw, very few would have watched had it been Jon & kate without the kids. They should have divided the money by 10 & done it that way from the start. kate just really doesn't get it, if it wasn't for these kids no one would know her name.

It's good that some laws will be put in place & soon. I don't think it would take much for TLC to convince kate to move to another state although I'd think that California would not be one they're happy with as there are already some child labour laws there.

CarolS461 said...

Here's a link to the hearing that took place earlier today in PA:

When you open the link, it's the first one at the top of the list:

http://www.repmurt.com/Video.aspx

IDModo said...

Jon is denying Kevin and Jodi's claims. My guess is that he has been told he must do so "under penalty of severeness" by Kate and the TLC machine.In return he will probably get some concessions in his custody battle.The words he uses in making the denial sound stilted and scripted.He is not in a position to say anything bad about TLC at this point. It would be his word against theirs, and he would be in danger of having the whole TLC Demolition Team make sure he didn't get to see his kids at all.
Gloria Allred said that the fact that TLC was allowed to film for an extended period of time without permits, and was not fined or sanctioned by the Child Labour Department,was "Shocking".She also referred the legislators to an FBI project (I believe it's called Innocent Images)which is about filming children's nudity and showing it on the internet.
The Dept.of Labour people were never in the Gosselin house, and Gloria said that was also shocking. The DLP took TLC's word for it that the children always had a parent with them when being filmed even though we all saw Joel alone on the laundry room floor and Kate nowhere in sight.DOL were questioned about whether they had ever made a referral due to a criminal matter (read child abuse, although this was not said)and they said they hadn't, because there was no evidence of physical abuse. How would they know that if they didn't even attend at the home?
There is going to be a huge scramble by TLC to cover this up, or to put a different spin on it. It's started already at ROL and TMZ.
Please forgive the length of this post, but I'm beyond angry. I spent a 33 year career trying to protect children from abusers inside and outside of their families, and in all that time I never felt so helpless as I do now.I don't believe any of this is going to appreciably change things for those children. And Child Protective Services in Pennsylvania seem to be noticeably silent,deaf, blind and suffering from extreme inertia.Can somebody please help me to understand why they are not involved?

Midnight Serenade said...

I'm curious about something. In the hearings it was revealed that the children were filmed on the potty "in total nudity." I don't read BM's site, and I stay away from the sheeples' rantings, but how do they defend the parents' decision to allow this to be filmed?

jibberjabbers said...

Watch the video here:

link to video

konspiracytheory said...

I wrote a brief email to Rep. Murt thanking him for the hearing and advising him that some scenes from J&K+8 have been re-edited after their first airing (i.e., on reruns and DVDs), so his committee might have to do some digging to investigate the child nudity scenes. I received a very sincere response, in which he mentioned that he was very disappointed by the 'settlement' with TLC.

Fingers crossed that he continues his investigation...

boo said...

Kate and Jon could very well have put a lot of money aside for the kids' future prior to this -- just not necessarily in an irrevocable trust. But to me, that is beside the point. The real point is how the money was made in the first place. I for one would rather have my 8 kids get student loans to pay for college than have them "earn" their college money by losing their privacy, their home stability and their dignity.

Grace J said...

http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/sns-ap-us-tv-jon--kate-investigation,0,3076096.story?track=rss
Hope this works....seems the state has come to conclusion

Teryn said...

It's disgusting that Radar Online is reporting blantant lies about Kevin and Jodi. You'd think they'd check their facts and sources before printing that crap.

I think Radar Online is run by a bunch of middle school kids.

ToTheMoonAlice said...

I think the "T" in TLC must stand for "teflon"...because everything sleezy, slimey thing they do just seems to roll right off them without consequences. Just shows what you can get away with if you have the money to lawyer up...

Dorothy said...

At one point Kate stated that she had put $80,000, $10K for each kid, away. Never said a trust, etc. The scoop MSNBC from Kate, Kevin wanted attention. Yes, well if that is the case Kevin and Jodi could have sold their story to a tabloid. Teflon Kate.

JaxMom said...

Kudos to Jody and Kevin for standing up for the kids. No matter how much Kate keeps them from them, at least the kids will be able to see that somebody who they loved tried to protect them.

I was disappointed in Jon denying their statement--but then again, he's under TLC's thumb again.

I think that they should have required TLC to pay a penalty of at least 15% of what the Gosselins pulled in (preferably more, as they were taken advantage of at first)... and put that into the trust fund. Some sort of retroactive thing for the kids.


Am I the only one who predicts that the Gosselins will move out of TLC to get away from any laws? Especially if the "specials" are a success?

silimom said...

It said that at least 15 percent of the gross proceeds, due to the children, must be placed in trust funds until they reach the age of 18 or unless needed for their safety, education, welfare or health.

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So in other words, Kate can take money out of the trust for their education (private school tuition) and welfare (food, clothing, shelter).

So what's changed, exactly? There will still be no money available to the kids when they turn 18. Kate will have spent it all.

crabbygirl said...

It is very sad that at the end of the day all these kids gained from their show was a broken family.

Protect8 said...

The State of PA child welfare department should be very embarrassed about all of this. The statement by TLC that a trust fund was set up in November does not mention whether or not it was retroactive. Also, it sounds as if the trust fund can be used now for education, "security", etc. which would justify using that money for Steve Neidl.

My hope was that the state could obtain unedited raw footage of film shot by Figure 8 productions in the Gosselin house. Jen Stock, the producer of the early seasons, is fully complicit in allowing the 8 children to be exposed in embarrassing and humiliating situations. She should have been deposed.

Remember Kate's proud statement about their showing the good, bad and ugly? The State of PA needs to see the unedited ugly and make a decision about the need to protect the Gosselin children based on this.

Read the reviews on Amazon.com about Kate's new already price slashed book. Perhaps Amazon requires correct grammar and spelling because the ROL Sheeple haven't flooded the customer review section yet.

Missy said...

Teryn said...
It's disgusting that Radar Online is reporting blantant lies about Kevin and Jodi. You'd think they'd check their facts and sources before printing that crap.

I think Radar Online is run by a bunch of middle school kids.
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Why is Radar Online always very pro-Kate? EVERY day I am reading articles that are gushing with love and admiration for Kate. Is RO owned by TLC or something? I smell something fishy over there...

wramblinwreck said...

"Although a trust fund had to be setup for the kids, it doesn't sound like it is retroactive. If that is true, those kids are each getting 2% of practically nothing since they are no longer being filmed."
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According to the article posted at the link provided by GraceJ, the 15% does apply to the earnings from J&K+8 as described here:


"No action will be taken provided a portion of the proceeds from the now-canceled reality show are put into a trust fund for Jon and Kate Gosselin's children..."

NoUse4Kate said...

I know that this is not a religious site, not trying to preach at anyone. Saying that, I am reminded of the Bible verse where it warns of calling evil good and good evil. Seems like that is the case with J&K and their followers. What they are and have done to those children, what TLC is doing and has done to those children is nothing short of evil. Yet we have the MSM applauding the behavior and berating those that try to stop it. We have a bunch of whack job sheeple praising K8’s behavior and actions, it’s really sickening if you stop and think about it for any length of time.

amanda said...

Contact Rep Murt about this and let him know that we want the state to CONTINUE to look into the Gosselin family and all issues regarding child labor in PA! I contacted him and look forward to hearing back from him. Especially concerning is the fact that TLC used the children as bargaining chips in its lawsuite vs. Jon. As in-- "Let us put the kids back on the air, and we will settle this with you." Really twisted, and seemingly without regard for the children's welfare at all. Murt's email address is:
tmurt@pahousegop.com for anyone else interested in contacting him.

Jane in CA said...

I think that those trust funds should not be under the care of either parent. In fact, a trustee should be appointed by the State or the court system, to be in charge of those trust accounts. Any requests for withdrawals prior to age 18 would have to be run by the trustee, who would then approve or not. Once a year, the trustee should be required to give an accounting to the court of the status of each account.

However, because that makes too much sense and protects the children's rights too much, I doubt it will happen.

Canadian Mom said...

http://perezhilton.com/2010-04-14-uncle-kevin-and-aunt-jodie-discuss-the-gosselin-kiddies

Despite the Perez Hilton in the link, it shows a nice interview with Jodi and Kevin....

Laurie said...

Kate had said at one point that she wanted to move to NC - reading between the lines and from what others have possted - because they have lax child labor laws.

If Kate does bundle them up and move to NC it will look like she is running from the new PA child labor laws and it will follow her to NC. I think that right now she may just be in a no win situation.

Yes, rol and tlc may be putting their evil spin on it, but karma may just be coming to bite her on the a$$.

Canadian Mom said...

crabbygirl said...
It is very sad that at the end of the day all these kids gained from their show was a broken family.
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Well said.

NC Mom23 said...

Sillimom said...
It said that at least 15 percent of the gross proceeds, due to the children, must be placed in trust funds until they reach the age of 18 or unless needed for their safety, education, welfare or health.

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So in other words, Kate can take money out of the trust for their education (private school tuition) and welfare (food, clothing, shelter).

So what's changed, exactly? There will still be no money available to the kids when they turn 18. Kate will have spent it all.
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When I heard the Dept of Labor guy say that the funds could be used for education, medical care, food, etc., the first thing I thought was "those kids won't have a cent left by the time they're old enough to receive the trust -- the wicked witch from Wernersville will use the money for her weaves and mani's and pedi's and say it was for the children's welfare!"

Jesse said...

I watched the entire hearing and want to say I think that Kevin and Jodi did a great job. I only wish they could have given more examples of things that happened with the Gosselin children. I know the hearing was not about them specifically but hearing what they went through shows why laws are needed.

I really think that Kevin and Jodi are doing this for the right reasons. It's not for fame or money but they clearly were upset by what they saw.

I'm glad they mentioned that even the film crew were upset by what was going on and Jodi explained that you won't hear about it because of the confidentiality agreements.

I feel bad though because Kevin and Jodi will, like always, take a lot of verbal abuse for standing up for the children.

JJ inWA said...

I'm still watching the video and they are just starting to question Paul-but I love their statement that this hearing will send a message to all parents! I hope all states are listening because I can see Kate moving if laws are passed.

Pattypanda said...

The legislators were very interested in what Paul Peterson was saying today, especially in regards to the on site teachers having the last word on working hours during the day. It sounds like Kate did not set up the irrevocable trusts for the children until she was being investigated. They wanted to know if it was one account and if the first child to go to college could have access to the whole amount or if it was dived amongst each child. The legislators were also surprised that the investigation did no result in a fine for TLC for not having work permits for 5 years. They asked if the same would apply to other situations, like underage agricultural workers. They also questioned how they completed an investigation w/o ever visiting the home/worksite. They seem to be very sincere in seeing that new laws are put in to place in PA soon. As far as rumors of Kate looking for home in LA, forget it. TLC could never follow all the strict children entertainment rules that would be enforced there.

Katie711 said...

This is SICK. I am so tired of Kate getting away with .. well murder
(for lack of better words ) she skates by for yet another week on DWTS ( why I dont know ) and she now has 2 more shows and now NOTHING will happen with this whole mess. I am SICK of her. I just dont get why people ( NOT US HERE OF COURSE ) dont see right thru her. She is all about herself. ENOUGH ALREADY

pinkdiamond611 said...

The fact that there even WAS a hearing is amazing news. Maybe it is too late for the Goselin children but there are plenty of other parents who are willing to whore out there kids also. New laws will put an end to that. the fact that Yawn had to bad-mouth Kevin and Jodie does not shock me in the least. Typical of the Kons.

CAStudioGirl said...

I believe there is some confusion that the principals in this hot mess (TLC, Figure 8, and Kate Gosselin) are hoping to capitalize on. The figure of 15 percent is consistent with CA labor law for Coogan Accounts, which must be set up for *every* minor child within 7 days of the a contract being signed on behalf of a minor to be filmed. Evidence of a Coogan Trust Account must be provided to the Studio or Production company hiring the minor. That money (the 15 percent) cannot be touched by anyone for anything until the minor is 18. Parents can legally take a percentage of their minor childs wages (after that 15 percent) in their role as "manager", "agent", etc. In no instance is the minor child required to be responsible for paying for their own food, shelter, clothing, health benefits. Just because they have a job, doesn't remove the responsibility of the parent to provide for them. The issue is that Coogan Laws only apply in CA (some states have similar laws), but PA does not. TLC probably used the figure because it is "standard" in the industry. This is only one reason why rumors of her Evil Wickedness "shopping" for homes here in CA are just that rumors. She would not have the control over the filming conditions that she has in PA. If TLC set up a Coogan Trust for the kidlets - that's great, if not ...it's merely a smoke a mirrors shame to deflect bad press from their Spawn of Satan wanna be "star".

Midnight Serenade said...

I would also suggest that everyone e-mail Paul Petersen to thank him for making the cross-country trip just to testify in our little corner of the state. His testimony was valuable, and I believe opened up the eyes of the legislators.

Midnight Serenade said...

"She would not have the control over the filming conditions that she has in PA."

If PA enacts laws similar to those in CA (and it sounds like they are working toward that end), then she's not going to be protected here either, and perhaps she knows that. Maybe she better look for homes in North Carolina.

restandmotion-storylady said...

I was having trouble with the video of the proceedings, and didn't get the names of the gentlemen on the panel. The man who asked the question of Jodi and Kevin about the cameras in the kids' rooms 24 hours a day and appeared to be appalled, seemed to be someone who really gave a damn about children.
I heard the Kreider's testimony, and that gentleman's question before I lost the video completely. I don't know how it all played out, and I hope it's not over.
All I can say for now is thank God for Uncle Kevin and Aunt Jodi.

Midnight Serenade said...

If Jon is saying that none of that ever happened during production, to what is he referring? Jodi and Kevin's entire testimony? All one would need to do is to check when the Christmas show was filmed, and bingo, there goes his claim. That would kind of negate his statement, wouldn't it? Is he saying that the film crew didn't go to Jodi and Kevin expressing their concerns because of moral issues? How would he know? Is he saying that the kids were never filmed when parents weren't present, that no crew members ever filmed just a few of them outside? Is he saying that they were never filmed on the potty, naked? It's all on video, for pete's sakes!

CAStudioGirl said...

Personally, I am inclined to give Jon "a pass" on whatever he said visa vie the court proceedings today. It seems clear, TLC has "schooled" him on just how much they own him, with their media blitz when he attempted to escape. I feel confident that he was told what to say, word for word, and whom to say it to - so that they can 'refute' any wrongdoing, but keep their sparkly fame whore a safe distance from an actual news reporters unapproved questions. I'm not saying it's not pathetic that the guy had his manhood removed by that shrew, but if you were facing a protracted separation from your children (whom you clearly love more than anything in your world) - I'm guessing doing a little vile, but brief talking head "creative remembering". If it meant seeing my kids, I'd walk on hot coals. I feel sorry for him and am disgusted at the same time. He's in a horrible situation, if he could hit rewind I'm sure he wishes he went fishing that day he met her - except that I'm sure he treasures the children that all that pain brought him.

Canadian Mom said...

Midnight Serenade said...
I would also suggest that everyone e-mail Paul Petersen to thank him for making the cross-country trip just to testify in our little corner of the state. His testimony was valuable, and I believe opened up the eyes of the legislators

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GREAT idea! I'm on it...

rural mom said...

The industry which includes shows like ET and the Insider do not want the business side of show business revealed - how much is scripted and teleprompted and rehearsed. So I don't expect any of these outlets will tough the committee testimonies but instead will make it sound like Kate's brother is sour grapes. Everyone should be writing letters to their political reps asking State laws to change to protect these kids. It was so well stated today - every adult in the Gosselin home is paid to be there. How sad.

Can't See Sheep said...

My problem is that children have been filmed nude, how is that not illegal? I don't care how TLC & kate spin it, how is it not illegal? It was not a necessary element to the program. Look at how young they were, full frontal nudity, I'm sorry, but it's wrong & at the very least the cameraman should be charged. You'd think they'd know better than to film the kids like that, or did they know better & TLC should have done a background check on them? I'm just revolted over this part of it.

I agree with those posting that Kevin & Jodi are doing this for the right reason, if they wanted to make money off of this then they'd have cashed in with the tabloids. If laws are passed then kate will probably move, I doubt TLC would have a hard time convincing her.

LisaNH said...

Wonder what the Sheeple have to say about their precious Kart not setting up trust funds for the kiddies (Also Jon's responsibility).

You know, it happened again, Kate falls in a pile of doodoo and still comes out smelling like a rose. I give up. She will never pay for her crimes against humanity. I hoped this madness would end but doesn't look like it.

GoPoshGo said...

CAStudioGirl said...
The figure of 15 percent is consistent with CA labor law for Coogan Accounts, which must be set up for *every* minor child within 7days of the a contract being signed on behalf of a minor to be filmed.

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Thank for that excellent explanation of the CA labor laws, CAStudioGirl!

I just have to shake my head at the incomprehensible selfishness of those two sorry excuses for parents. The fact that the Greedlins didn't set up accounts for the kids from day one, and allot each child his or her fair share of the earnings is just further evidence of the greedy pigs those two wastes-of-skin are. [I know, I know, I shouldn't sugar-coat my feelings ;)].

The 15% is long overdue, but it doesn't come close to a fair amount for the kids. With a Coogan account (or other similar trust), the guardians are *required* to put 15% of the child's paycheck into the trust account. But, just 15%. There's no law dictating where the other 85% has to go. So basically, a working child is guaranteed 15% of his or her earnings at age 18, but the rest is at the mercy of the guardian's integrity (or lack thereof).

TLC and Kate are trying to paint themselves as heroes for setting up the accounts and depositing 15% of some amount (they conveniently forgot to reveal just how much the kids have actually earned over the past 3-5 years). CAStudioGirl is right -- they're likely using the "industry standard" in an attempt to look like they're abiding by the most stringent child entertainment labor laws (CA) -- but the reality is that 15% is just a fraction of the kids' actual earnings. It's the *minimum* amount required by CA law to be put in trust. I imagine the kids' remaining 85% has manifested itself in the form of cars, manicures, pedicures, booby guards, extensions, Botox, inflatables, and other such extraneous items that are all "for the kids."

Suffice it to say that, although they are finally getting some of their well-deserved money, the kids are still getting screwed.

Glad to see that the laws protecting child performers may be changing here in PA. Let's hope the next item on the agenda is a helmet law. Shockingly, there is no such law in PA.

Proud Of The Kreiders said...

Kate's just so full of lies this week, it's mind boggling,

She said on The Joy Behar Show that Kevin and Jodi would be at their house ( Jon and Kate's ) and filming and the next day would go on talk shows and tell about bad things they saw during filming.

I hope anyone with a brain didn't buy that. Kevin and Jodi didn't go on a talk show until looooong after they were dropped from the show, and only did so AFTER Jon got caught with Deanna Hummel and the tabloids went berserk. They HAD to speak up because of the craziness going on because somebody needed to speak up for the kids. The parents obviously weren't doing it.

But it AMAZED me how easily that lie slid off Kate's tongue. She lies so well, she actually believes the crap that she makes up!!!!

Kimberly said...

If Kevin & Jodi had wanted to make real money off of this they would have written the tell all behind the scenes book. I think they're doing it for the right reasons.

Teryn said...

Midnight Serenade said...
If Jon is saying that none of that ever happened during production, to what is he referring? Jodi and Kevin's entire testimony? All one would need to do is to check when the Christmas show was filmed, and bingo, there goes his claim. That would kind of negate his statement, wouldn't it? Is he saying that the film crew didn't go to Jodi and Kevin expressing their concerns because of moral issues? How would he know? Is he saying that the kids were never filmed when parents weren't present, that no crew members ever filmed just a few of them outside? Is he saying that they were never filmed on the potty, naked? It's all on video, for pete's sakes!

4/14/2010 4:57 PM



My take on that tweet was Jon is trying to get back in TLC's good graces so they will consider allowing him to be on Kate Plus 8.


Jon and Kate both have demonstrated that they will say whatever benefits them at the moment and it is subject to change on an hourly basis. They proven this time and time again.

my9cats said...

LisaNH said...
Wonder what the Sheeple have to say about their precious Kart not setting up trust funds for the kiddies (Also Jon's responsibility)."

Sheeple will say, "We'd do the same thing. Why should the kids get money. They haven't walked a mile in her shoes. They're jes jellus."

Cry Me a River said...

Kate was just on Joy and said that Kevin and Jodi had made hundreds of thousands of dollars by selling stories to the tabloids and that the money has run out and they are looking to make more.

I think Kevin and Jodi should dispute that because I do not believe it whatsoever. I believe that was an out and out lie. She said they would come into their home and then call the tabloids when they left and sell a made up story. That is a lie. That woman would lie when the truth would serve her better.

I don't think they made a dime by going to that senate hearing and telling their story. It makes it a moot point now of anything they might want to sell to a tabloid. I hate the fact that people let her come on their shows and lie like that. Although Joy did make her sweat a bit she still got a free ride.

IDModo said...

I just sent a fairly lengthy email to Rep.Murt and his committee with the suggestion that perhaps they need to strengthen the laws in PA regarding the reporting of child abuse. I described our definitions of child abuse here in Ontario, and offered several examples from the show that would have been reportable here.I stated that in Ontario the duty to report supersedes any non-disclosure agreements in contracts, and that this could be written in to any contract entered into by employees of a network producing a reality show involving kids.This might be much more effective than counting on the labour laws to provide these safeguards.I will keep everybody posted if I receive a reply.
Hi Shelley and Sheep, fellow Ontarians!I live in The Hammer, Steeltown...you will know what I mean.

Cry Me a River said...

I also intend to write to the representative and thank him for giving his time to this important matter, as well as Paul Peterson.

And Kevin and Jodi I applaud you as well. I know it is not easy to take on the wrath of Kate and I commend you for standing up for the kids.

Tami said...

I don't give Jon a pass at all. Using twitter is his own choice. This proves he is as insane as she is. I still don't even believe the custody battle is real. I wonder how Kevin gets along with his mother and sister now that they are supporting Kate after all those years of Kate freezing out the family. Her mother should be ashamed of herself for not publicly supporting Kevin and Jodi.

Yolanda said...

I happened to view an older episode of Jon & Kate for just a few minutes and I can't believe how Kate has changed! She has totally shedded her "Mom" skin and is now only a "wanna-be celebrity".

In light of all the recent developments and the certainty that Kate will ALWAYS come out smelling like a rose, I have given up. I have resigned myself to the fact that Kate is here to stay. And not only here to stay, but she will prevail. She will shine, she will receive kudos and praise, she will be asked to host this show and that show, she will be a guest here and a guest there....

I predict she will get a movie part. Or she will get a small walk-on role in a popular TV series in the fall. She'll bomb, but the show ratings will soar!

It will be a long time before she star fades. It will some day, but not in the near future.

So I give up!

Hitting the Fan Now said...

I'm sorry mods - I put this on the wrong thread earlier. More appropriate here:


1:04 into the hearing (one hour, four minutes) - somebody's behind's getting ready to get burned on the video of Hannah naked making it to the internet, not to mention all the potty video/episodes. That chairman is calling on the states attorney to investigate it.

Anne said...

I wish Jodi and Kevin would sue Kate for slander or libel (not sure which it is). She is assaulting their character by saying they made hundreds of thousands of dollars off her kids and I wouldn't let her get away with it. I'd sue and put any award or settlement in trust for the Gosselin kids.

Someone needs to call this woman on her lies. Take her on Gloria Allred.

JD said...

No matter what you may think of Gloria Alldred I think she also did a good thing today. Her description of what she witnessed when she was at Suleman's home with the babies was scary.

I also was glad she brought up her opinion of the PA investigation. She questioned why it took so long. She also questioned why no one even went into the Gosselin home to see what it was like. At the last minute she also stated it was appalling that TLC was not fined for not having work permits for the children. All they had to do was promise not to do it again.

I also found it interesting that the PA Labor reps felt it necessary to state how cooperative TLC was. Nobody ask them about that but for some reason they found it necessary to more or less defend TLC.

They can deny it all they want but I doubt that investigation was very thorough and some other things were going on.

Dorthy Grimes said...

I watched also but one thing I found strange. No one explained why or how this came to be. How this Mr. Murt knew about Jodi and Kevin? Why not call the principals, Jon and Kate? Or even TLC? I think it is really strange that they called in two people not associated with the show.Why not call in Jon since he was alive and twittering? Why not schedule or force Kate to be there also by writ of law? Why schedule when she is not in Penna? Let Jon and Kate answer questions about the Jon and Kate Plus 8 show, not Paul, gloria, Kevin or Jodi. I smell something fishy.

silimom said...

Loved Kate on Joy Behr's show - Do you all remember Kevin and Jodi showing up in an episode and then the very next day them running to the tabloids and selling information? After all, according to Kate, the tabloids and paps have been chasing them ever since TLC started airing their show. According to her, Kevin's made hundreds of thousands of dollars selling Jon and Kate stories to the tabs.

Ummmm...would a tabloid really pay THAT much for J & K stories? I find that hard to believe.

If you want the other side of the story, go to Jodi's sister's blog "The Truth Breeds Hatred" and judge for yourself. In fact, I challenge people to google "Gosselins Reading Eagle" or "Gosselins Christianity Today" and read some of the articles written before and after their show premiered. Don't let GWOP, ET, Radar, TMZ or ANYONE ELSE for that matter do your thinking for you. The information is out there.

Lisa said...

Midnight Serenade said...
I'm curious about something. In the hearings it was revealed that the children were filmed on the potty "in total nudity." I don't read BM's site, and I stay away from the sheeples' rantings, but how do they defend the parents' decision to allow this to be filmed?
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I have to admit that I have been reading her site lately and you would not believe some of the stuff that they say. Anything Kate does, no matter how bad, they can twist it to justify her behavior (or they throw out the jealous hater comment to deflect). Anyway, they say that anyone who thinks that showing the kids on the potty or in any state of undress is just inviting a pedophile to look is a sick person and, in fact, maybe a pedophile themselves....really!!!! I do not understand their logic at all over there. Anyone who dares to say anything against their "goddess" is talked to horribly and called names. The ironic thing is that they gripe about people being negative and hateful and then proceed to say way meaner things about Jon, Jodi, Kevin, and anyone who dislikes or says anything bad about Kate.

I have now lost the last bit of hope I had for Jon. He stopped production of the show because he said it was bad for his kids. Now suddenly, it's ok and Jodi and Kevin are the bad guys. These kids really got the short end of the stick. Apparently the only people who truly care about what happens to them are the Aunt and Uncle who, according to Kate, no longer have "access" to them. How can anyone think that these kids are leading a normal life with all the things that they have had to go through in their short little lives? My heart truly breaks for them, because the people who are supposed to love them most seem to only be interested in profitting off of them!

Kate's Nemesis said...

I guess now is a good time for A-Listers like Sandra Bullock, Charlie Sheen, Tiger's wife Elin, and Larry King to announce their impending divorces... What with all of the channels on local and cable stations being enveloped by everything Kate. If this tired hag enters my HBO or Lifetime Networks with a "movie of the week" anytime soon, I'm gonna throw a tantrum that will make the Gosselin 8's hissy fits look like Stepford Children!

Puppies and Kittens said...

Jon too is a horrible parent. Just a bit less so than Khate. There is no excuse for Jon's comments siding with TLC.

IF Jon is supposedly under TLC's thumb and can't make his true feelings known then he should make a "No Comment" statement.

Khate is the uber bitch from hell behind all of this but Jon is her bitch and will always be. He is an idiot while Kate is a calculating narcissistic manipulator.

Monster Mommy said...

Kate dismissed Kevin and Jodi today on Joy Behar by saying they've done this for the money. Talk about PROJECTION. Forget the prosessional dance lessons; this woman needs professional psychological help! The court needs to appoint an Attorney ad litem (like they did for Anna Nicole's baby) for all 8 kids. I wonder what Nancy Grace would say if she were told her twins would be taping a new reality show this summer... without her presence- and there's nothing she can do about it! Well, this is Jon's current dilemma. TLC - Taking Lives Channel.

Lily said...

ROL is talking about a potty training episode at Jodi & Kevin's house. While there is some truth in that rol is not telling the full truth. Jodi took the tup to the potty, closed the door and there was no filming during the act. ROL is so in TLC's pocket that it's disgusting. The rags print just enough "truth" so that they can't get sued but they distort that truth.

set gosselins free said...

It is so wonderful that the representative held this hearing, and that Ms. Allred, Jodi and Kevin; as well as Mr. Peterson, stuck their necks out in an effort to help these kids. At least some day the kids will know that there were people trying to help them. It may be a few years in the future, but some day they will appreciate what these people have done.


At a minimum, the kids will have SOME money. Hardly fair that they do not get more than 15%! Geez what a rip off for kids!

Meep said...

I watched Kate on Joy's show tonight. Joy was very soft with her and showed the book at least twice.

When asked about Jodi and Kevin, Kate said they made "hundreds of thousands" off appearing in interviews etc and she guessed the money must have dried up. She said she has not allowed them to see the kids in two years.

She and the kids are doing a trip soon to film footage for Kate +8.
Kate says they often ask when they can go on a plane again and ask about the crew nad in her head I guess she concludes they are excited about filming.

When asked about her views on spanking, she danced around and said it depends on the individual paretn and child. She can be firm with Collin, but Aaden would cry if she spoke to him in the voice she uses for Collin.

I think she messed up and said she'll be on on DWTS for the next couple of week..keep track, i will bet she disappears in the next two weeks especially as she says she and the kids are going on a trip to film footage soon

Marie L said...

If you filmed your kids the ways the 6 were and put it on youtube, you would be branded a pedophile and put into jail. PERIOD.

I have no idea how TLC was able to do what they did for such a long period of time.

carebear said...

I like that Kate calls the show realest reality.
One day the kids will see the early episodes of gentle Jodi playing and soothing them and Kate shrilling and yelling.

Denise said...

Kate is making a book signing appearance on Friday in Santa Monica at Barnes and Noble.

silimom said...

Jon Lawyer, Anthony List, has already stated that TLC has been in contact with Jon. I don't know that they're planning on filming him - (this is pure speculation) I believe that they are offering to pay him if he allows the children to be filmed and doesn't make a stink about it. Remember, his contract with TLC is up in May. And unless someone who has first hand knowledge would like to step up and contradict me, it appears he has no intention of trying to provide for himself except in the reality show arena.

I agree with the poster who said he could have simply not twittered anything today. I suppose it could be possible that TLC has access to his Twitter account, but I doubt it, honestly. I think that was straight from Jon.

As I have said before, I take some minor comfort in the fact that there are children who have had self centered, narcissistic parents ala Jon and Kate and have managed to survive and even thrive despite their parentage. I pray that the people who do have contact with them - nannies, teachers, aides, etc. - can provide them all with some perspective.

silimom said...

Just read some of the comments on ROL. You're going to love this one -

Apparently, Jon and Jodi are now an item and are doing the deed while Kevin's at work. Meanwhile, Kevin has hooked up with some girl he met when he and Jon went out clubbing that one night.

Oh, and apparently, Kevin and Jodi have written a book that they're trying to shop around (that one's an old rumor).

These people watch WAY too many soap operas.

Jane in CA said...

Joy Behar - so desperate for a show of her own, she'll hawk pure garbage, and even sample some while smiling for the camera. Ugh - another one I used to like, but no more.

PKsMum said...

Kevin, Jodie, HOO-RAH! You came off smart, classy, and kind. Everyone seemed to appreciate your motivation. I hope you never lose sight of why you did this in the first place. You should be very proud.

Monster Mommy said...

I mentioned a while back, a local L.A. story I had been made privy to, regarding Kate's terribly cheap tipping etiquette... Well, I was thinking about her nasty attitude toward hired help as well. It leads me to wonder exactly how much SPIT she has eaten during her many dining out stints with her Booby-Guard- icky! I know it's gross, but it really does happen... Especially here in L.A.

Kate will read the Preface of her chilren's tell-all book one day, and find Thank You Letters to Jodi and Kevin.

I Don't Cry, I Sob said...

Kimberly said...If Kevin & Jodi had wanted to make real money off of this they would have written the tell all behind the scenes book. I think they're doing it for the right reasons.

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Well, Well, Well. Sounds like Kate Sobelin might be 'jellus' of the attention that her brother and sister in law recieved today. Kate wastes no time being her defensive, insecure self by accusing her brother of making one gazillion dollars off of her children. No, silly, that's your career Kate! She sounds more like a batshit crazy sobbin' creeper everyday!
Maybe Kate has a hard time understanding what Kevin is saying due to his heavy use of the actual english language. I'll try to break it down for her.
Ummm, Kate, Ummm, there are alot of icky people and umm, you're 8 bundles of benjamins umm joy have had their naked dustilies, and umm impacted poopies, and unnawears, and umm privacy violated for all the creeper people to see. You know, umm the way that the paparazzi umm p-people make you feel when they follow you to Tarzhay and Starbucks?
How they make you feel kinda angryish, and wish you could penalize them with severeness by beating them with a spoon? Umm, well Kevin is afraid umm skeered umm worrish that your choices make the kid$ feel the same way when you force them to perform, umm work, umm not work, umm, do a show, all for them. Oh, and Christmas comes on the same date every year. Ummm, Jesus Christ was born 12/25. You know this because you write alot of faith based books for a Christian book publisher. That may be one script you may want to adhere to. Your beloved white plastic chair may not hold up very well in the fireyish pits of H-E- double hockey sticks. With all of the sinnie sin sins you have stashed under your tummy tuck, I'd be careful changing the lord's birthday for the love of money.

Cry Me a River said...

This 15% thing is way messed up. My understanding is that whether it be 1 child or 8 it is still 15%. That is really not much money to be divided betwen 8 kids. It should be at least 25% in this instance due to the sheer number of kids it must cover. You can be sure that not one more dime will be put into the irrevocable trust than is necessary. The revocable one if it exists maybe as a tax shelter but that will be spent when the well runs dry. The kids are still getting the short end of everything as well.

ChurchMouse said...

Well, once again we see Ms. Gosselin's blatent hypocrisy. A so-called, "Christian", she LIED to her children about what is considered the second most holy night in the Christian calendar--Easter being the first.

A true religious person wouldn't do that. Could you imagine asking a rabbi to lie about the date of Passover to get "a reaction" from his kids? Or how about asking a Muslim to lie to his kids about Ramadan, so that they could be filmed eating during the daylight hours? I could go on with examples from any of the other major religions.

I can tell you what the answer would be. They'd look at you like you were crazy and move away rather quickly.

So much for teaching about the values of your religion, Ms. Gosselin. You don't get to wear the Religion badge unless you do the work.

Kids, thank your mother for teaching you how to spell the word "hypocrite.".

ChurchMouse said...

Scary thought.

How is BabyMomma gonna react to the news that her bestest, favoritistest Mummy in the world basically threw her kids under the bus when it came to filming kids WITHOUT parents present DURING potty training? Lying about Christmas? Having no privacy or escape at all?

Not exactly your sterling example of family values, Almost enough to turn a rabid fan into something worse.

And what's worse than a Sheeple? A pissed-off Sheeple, who now sees that they have been bushwhacked.

There's a thin line between love and hate, and I'm afraid that once these maniacs stop loving her they will start hating her with the same amount of energy that they put into their fandom in the first place.

We here at GWOP may be passionate, but we just want the kids to stop being filmed. The Sheeple might take it personally, and start to go after her with the same vehemence with which they once supported her.

And we all know that the majority of them aren't the sharpest crayons in the box. Anger and stupidity; not a very pleasant combination.

Midnight Serenade said...

"Anyway, they say that anyone who thinks that showing the kids on the potty or in any state of undress is just inviting a pedophile to look is a sick person and, in fact, maybe a pedophile themselves....really!!!!"

So if it's perfectly okay for her to do it, then likewise, they would film their own children naked, on the potty, whatever, and post it on Youtube...just because she does it? That's sick.

Midnight Serenade said...

"My problem is that children have been filmed nude, how is that not illegal? I don't care how TLC & kate spin it, how is it not illegal? It was not a necessary element to the program. Look at how young they were, full frontal nudity, I'm sorry, but it's wrong & at the very least the cameraman should be charged. You'd think they'd know better than to film the kids like that, or did they know better & TLC should have done a background check on them? I'm just revolted over this part of it."

I don' know. I don't understand it. The one representative yesterday said that he had been in law enforcement, and you need a search warrant to go into any child's bathroom and film. Yet, when questioned, the DA said that nothing illegal was done because the child labor laws are so broad. I would think this would be seperate and distinct from child labor laws. Wouldn't the FCC have jurisdiction over what can and cannot be shown on television? Given how irate the one person was about this, I hope that he does some investigating.
It's another question to e-mail Congressman Murt. Wouldn't hurt.

Regardless of the legality of it, there's a moral issue here. What parents in their right minds would even permit a child to be alone in the bathroom with a crew member, let alone film it and allow it to be shown on television? I would have removed that child from the bathroom so fast the crew member's head would have been spinning.

Can't See Sheep said...

How on earth can kate say that Kevin & Jodi did this for money, they weren't paid to testify. They were also asked to testify they didn't volunteer for it. Have they been on any show that is likely to have paid them for their appearance?? I think kate is confusing them for herself. She'd do this sort of thing for money so therefore that must be Kevin & Jodi are doing it. It would be so nice if they could nail kate for slander, so that the world could see what a foul, lying creature she is. I think it would be the only way to shut her up, she's a little too big for her britches.

kate lets TLC film Hannah naked & it gets to the internet, yet it's her brother she's slamming. The one trying to protect her kids. If that had been my child all filming would have stopped immediately & someone would have been behind bars for it. I am so disgusted with kate now there are no words to express just how disgusted I am. kate is one sick monster.

Penny said...

CAStuduiGirl said: " but if you were facing a protracted separation from your children (whom you clearly love more than anything in your world) - I'm guessing doing a little vile, but brief talking head "creative remembering". If it meant seeing my kids, I'd walk on hot coals."
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I too would walk on hot coals for my children, but Jon has never even come close to walking on hot coals before for his kids, if anything the coals have been luke warm at best. I don't think he'd start now.

I have been on the fence about Jon all this time. I think mainly because I wanted to believe that one of the parents actually cared about these children. But, after his twitter I am done with Jon too. Jon and Kate deserve each other.

I will not give him a pass. Jon chose to twitter. And, if Jon is doing things just because TLC tells him to then it's about money, not seeing his kids. TLC has nothing to do with him seeing his kids as much as people would like to imply. But, they do, however, hold the purse strings.

I would never sell my children out for ANY amount of money. I am disgusted by any parent who would. I now add Jon to the list of parents who disgust me. His name is right below Kate's.

Val said...

Denise said...
Kate is making a book signing appearance on Friday in Santa Monica at Barnes and Noble.

4/14/2010 10:32 PM



So, basically she's not even going home this week at all ???
She sat there and told Meredith Viera on national tv that as soon as DWTS relases her on Tuesday night, she hops on a plane and flies home to the kids ( and that's her ONE night of sleep), however she was still in LA yesterday ( WED ) doing interviews for E!, Access Hollywood and Joy Behar!!!! And now she's doing a book signing in Santa Monica on Friday?

And she says she not an absentee parent???? WTH????

It's one thing that she lies so badly...we've come to expect it. It's her "normal".

The scary thing is how people buy the crap she sells and never question her even though she lies straight to their face.

And Billy Bush!!! My God that man can't get any more obvious that he wants to hook up with Katezilla. He flirts shamelessly with her. Yuck!!!

Hey Radar Online..We know you read here. Why don't you use that "fine" investigative reporting you do and do a story about how Kate didn't go home this week at all, after she's been telling anyone who will listen how she goes back to PA after DWTS and spends the rest of the week with the kids. Better yet, go find her arse on Friday at that book signing and ask her on film why she didn't go home at all this week.

Jennifer said...

Kate dismissed Kevin and Jodi today on Joy Behar by saying they've done this for the money. Talk about PROJECTION.

That's EXACTLY what it is! Kate is saying Kevin and Jodi are doing it for the money because everything KATE does is for the money. There is no evidence to back up Kate's claim whatsoever, and the fact that she would make it anyway is really revealing about her.

SAHM said...

1. I think Jon's comment on Twitter is due to his contract w/ TLC. I think TLC has told him that he can not speak out negatively about anything or he risks being in violation of the contract and risks further legal action, which he can not afford.

2. I don't think that Kevin or Jodi have been paid for any of their interviews such as the Today Show, The Early Show, etc. In fact, I would go as far to say that they haven't made any money period.

3. Kevin and Jodi were not paid to go to the hearing. In fact, it was the PA Representative that approached them and asked for them to come testify.

4. I don't think that neither Kate or Jon really get what is going on here w/ the hearing that happened yesterday. This wasn't just about their children but it was for all children in PA interested in being on TV, be it "reality" or "scripted". The laws in PA just aren't as stringent w/ "reality" tv as they are w/ "scripted". The Gosselin children are being made the example of why the laws need to change. Its not that Jon and Kate are horrible parents (i personally beg to differ) but its more about TLC, Figure 8 and the production crew who took advantage just to make a buck.

5. If Jon and Kate really had a clue, they would be happy that this has taken place. But i think they are both under contract and TLC has a tight nuese around them, more around Jon than anyone. I think Kate despises her brother and therefore TLC doesn't have to worry about Kate agreeing w/ them.

6. I know the PA Representatives said that no legal action was being taken in regards to the hearings but I sure do hope that after the determination has been decided or if laws are put into place, that someone goes after TLC.

Dor said...

I am happy to see that Jodi and Kevin are still trying to fight for the rights of the kids, but I am truly disturbed that Kate is "allowed" to get away with everything. Why in the name of God can't some journalist take her down! The proof is out there! Why can't a Matt Lauer or a Diane Sawyer take her on in a 20/20 type of expose. I mean seriously. This woman and TLC are railroading Jon and basically laughing their way to the bank. She is so smug and I can't stand to even look at her. All of her fakeness is so transparent and yet there is NO ONE out there who has the balls to challenge her and TLC! I feel and don't know for a fact at all that Jon is legally bound by TLC to never bash them. I feel that he makes these ridiculous statements about "supporting Kate on DWTS" and Jodi and Kevin are "backstabbers" because he has to save face. It was probably written somewhere that he had to look as if he is in full support of Kate being Kate. The whole custody issue I think is real. I feel that he is trying to step up to the plate. People can say that he is in for the money and maybe they are right, but he AND Kate started this whole mess so he needs to fix it or at the very least expose the fraud. At this point, I CHALLENGE and commend anyone with the balls to take this on. She needs to be stopped and exposed as well as TLC. Her lawyer is a total scumbag as well. He is doing his job, but he is also profitting off the back of the kids too. Jon needs a Marty Singer or the likes in an attorney. He needs a pit bull who will shut them down. I know that justice will prevail in the end, but it is taking far too long!

One other issue that absolutely irks the pee out of me is Kate is all over the place stating that she is a single parent trying to make a living and needs all this excess money. Ummmm - I would like a breakdown of how much she spends on her personal appearance as opposed to how much she spends on the children. The hair, tanning, teeth, nails, boobs, personal traininer - ALL that BS is costing HER tens of thousands of dollars and I would like to know how THAT in particular is benefitting the kids?? How are your big ugly boobs benefitting the children Kate? How are the vaneers benefitting the children Kate?? $7K on extensions....um....how the heck is that benefitting the kids Kate. It is laughable that we ALL get it and no one else does!

The sheeple crap is just hillarious. I don't even let that get to me. Kate should worry about the fanatical fans she DOES have...I wonder how she doesn't worry about stalkers and kidnappers? I mean really! Steve is her arm candy. As a mother being on DWTS in the same location as Erin (whom I adore and feel so bad for)....if it were me and someone was being threatened with murder, I would place distance there.....just sayin' It doesn't even faze her as long as she can flash her pearly whites on camera at the most awkward of times! She is a dumbass!

Laurie said...

You notice that one thing that Kate has not done yet is deny any of this. She says it ridiculous, she side-steps in her answers, she accuses Kevin & Jodi of making money off her kids, etc. but never once has she denied completely.

Has she been home at all this week? She could have been at the hearing if she'd wanted to make the effort to go. It was open to the public. If she's doing a book signing in Santa Monica on Friday when will she be home with the kids? When will she practice? With all that's going on right now you'd think that she'd want to be home to comfort them. Why oh why doesn't anyone call her out when she says she'd love to be home with them. Why doesn't someone simply ask "Why are you here and not home?" And, don't take the I've got to make money for an answer. She's stated so publicly that she'll just be in CA to film and then right back home. Call her out on the lie.


PAMomKnows - I imagine that this hearing was pretty big news in PA. Is anyone there right now to give those kids the hug that they need?

Annies said...

Suddenly the sound is off on the Hearing meeting.????

Nova said...

JD said...

...TLC was not fined for not having work permits for the children. All they had to do was promise not to do it again.

I also found it interesting that the PA Labor reps felt it necessary to state how cooperative TLC was. Nobody ask them about that but for some reason they found it necessary to more or less defend TLC.
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Kickbacks? It could happen. Maybe there needs to be an investigation into the labor board investigation of the Gosselins and TLC.

Just wondering...

Save the Gosselin 8

Nova

Ohio Buckeye said...

Saw a quote from Miss Thing today, rationalizing her relentless quest for fame, stating that A) if she returned to work as an RN, she'd not see her kids any more than she does now and B) she'd make less $.

As an RN I can tell you that only Part B of that sentence has any validity.

There are MANY options for RN's and they do not all include the 12 hr/day shifts X 6 days/wk Miss Thing is claiming. K8G lies.

Re: part B of the sentence, WHY is it that a mom, who beats us all over the head that she's a mom first and desperately misses her children and wants to be home baking and cooking for them, NEVER even considers downsizing to a more normal lifestyle, making an RN salary a viable option for providing for her kids?

To sum up: K8G LIES. Does she think everyone, even fellow RN's, are going to believe this b.s.???

Claudia said...

You'll be glad to know that public opinion seems to be turning against Kate. Late yesterday afternoon, on CNN, there was a discussion with 2 commentators fully defending Kate's actions. While that was going on, a poll was being taken whether viewers support Kate. To the surprise of the CNN Anchor, 80% do not support Kate. AWESOME!!!

Deb B said...

I've been very concerned about the vulnerability of all of the children since hearing the child molesters on the recent Oprah episodes describe how they choose their victims. Each and every one of these molesters, male or female, chose their victims because of the emotional neediness of the children because of parental inattention or neglect. With so many workers coming in and out of that house and how vulnerable these kids are with two absentee parents (I assume Jon is not sleeping in the house with the children when he has visitation). I am terrified for those kids -- they will attach to anyone who will give them some badly needed attention. I really feel they are in danger.

Merrilee said...

Kevin and Jodi must feel so wrung out after everything they have gone through to try and help the kids. I feel so sorry for them. What they did was not easy, and what a shame that their efforts didn't have a much better outcome.

Kate was on several programs on the same day the hearings were in progress. She certainly didn't seem to be at all concerned about any of it, except to say how awful it is that Kevin and Jodi made thousands of dollars from their appearances. Such crap.

SMAR-tee said...

Hold on, hold on. Kate said SHE hasn't let the kids see Kevin and Jodi in 2 years.. but didn't Jon have them over to the mcmansion late last year?? I could have swore before TLC bought off Jon that he had them over to the house to see the kids. Please correct me if I'm wrong!
Also, Pam Anderson was on Larry King last night too.. did anyone watch? They were hyping it up like she had some nasty things to say about Kate...

bonehead said...

Well, I wonder what her sheeples think of her now? probably the same as they have always.Kate seems to be making the interview rounds and doing the broken record of I'm a poor struggling single mom crap. Oh, really. Let's see, $1 million for the first book, not to mention the money from personal appearances(which are about $15,000 and up, making money from US & People , DWTS and child support $21,000 A MONTH! and the other 2 books. I would say she is very well off and probably does not have to work ever again. Not to mention the money she kept from the children and 15% is very disappointing, since the kids were the focus of the show they should have gotten a lot more. At least 2/3's of that money belongs to them. or more like 3/4's. Kate is now whining and doing the pity thing. Saw a bit of her on the Joy whatever show last night, she was whining and called her brother a lie, and claims he was doing it for the money and that they made a lot of money for their talking about K8. Listen Paul Peterson would not get involved if he did not think it was harming the children. He was at the hearing. It goes to show you where Kate mind is at all the time, it's about money not the welfare of her kids. To her they are merchandise, not children she so desparately wanted. Gee even Octomom has not really used her children like Kate has and will continue to use, to make money. I am not crazy about Octomom. JMO

She's no prize said...

Here are another couple of cringe-worthy examples of childhood innocence/sexual discovery that should never have been broadcast. I got a terrible gut-feeling when I heard these.

One of the youngest girls, not sure which said over and over again: little girls have little boops and big girls like mommy have big boops.

In another example, one of the boys, again not sure which said: little boys have little wieners, big boys have big wieners.

I got such a bad feeling in my gut when these comments aired. Although innocent child talk and cute comments to those who love them and would never hurt them, these comments could be picked up by some weirdos and and lord knows what they would do with them. It sickens me to know that those comments are out there and these kids can never get them back!!

Can't See Sheep said...

@Ohio Buckeye, if she was an RN she wouldn't be away from her kids 24 hours a day like she is now. Even if she worked a 12 hour shift she'd still be home & have a little time with them, at the very least she'd be able to tuck them in. They also wouldn't be in constant round the clock care of nannies for days on end. I also don't know any RN's that work 6, 12 hour shifts straight, isn't it more like 3 or 4 12 hour shifts. She needs to construct her arguments better, there are too many holes, doesn't hold water. She really expects everyone to be very ignorant.

jibberjabbers said...

If it was a "documentary", then filming kids doing their thing isn't illegal.

MickeyMcKean said...

Dorthy Grimes said...
I watched also but one thing I found strange. No one explained why or how this came to be. How this Mr. Murt knew about Jodi and Kevin? Why not call the principals, Jon and Kate? Or even TLC? I think it is really strange that they called in two people not associated with the show.Why not call in Jon since he was alive and twittering? Why not schedule or force Kate to be there also by writ of law? Why schedule when she is not in Penna? Let Jon and Kate answer questions about the Jon and Kate Plus 8 show, not Paul, gloria, Kevin or Jodi. I smell something fishy.

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I respectfully disagree - there is nothing fishy here, especially if you know about the organization A MINOR CONSIDERATION.

I have a feeling - but no proof - that Rep. Murt was initially contacted by Paul Peterson, head of A Minor Consideration and/or Gloria Allred whose reputation is well known.

If I am right, then common sense tells me that they would have suggested to Rep. Murt to contact and invite Kate's brother and sister-in-law, as well as to bring in a psychologist to outline a child's development throughout the years. The goal of the hearing was to get the representatives to realize that new laws need to be made in regards to children in PA being filmed in reality TV shows; I believe the people who testified hit a home run.

For the record I listened to the the entire hearing - twice since I had problems the first time with my connection. I am impressed with the testimony of all, except with the Dept of Labor. KUDOS TO GLORIA ALLRED making it noted that the DofL did NOT go to the home after receiving complaints to investigate where the filming had taken place, as well as to suggest the reps contact the F.B.I.

As for Jon's tweeting and Kate's spin after the hearing, they may actually be a little worried that the one representative stepped out and called the District Attorney during the hearing. Add the fact that Gloria suggested calling the FBI and yes, if I was Jon or Kate I might be a tad worried after the fact. It looks like they may have let people in their home with a lot of children - without knowing if their criminal (pedophile) background was checked out by TLC - something that I can assure you that I would check before anyone would be allowed to film my children unsupervised.

The film footage is out there forever - Kate on more than one occasion was surprised to see moments of her kid's lives that she did not see unless it was on film. Specifically one episode when the girls were being potty trained - Jon and Kate were not present in the laundry room where the potties were but the cameraman was! Hard to deny these things when it is on film.

Also, KUDOS TO KEVIN AND JODI. It really did take a lot of courage to testify knowing it would not set well with Kate. It is obvious during the hearing that Kevin still wants to have a relationship with his sister but alas it does not appear after yesterday's events that is a possibility.

"The love of money is truly the root of all evil", and as proof I offer Kate Gosselin as a prime example.

JMO.

Someone Enlighten Me said...

Why are their expenses so high? We have five children and a decent mortgage, cars, everything except private school fees, and believe me our income is not and does not need to be $22,000 a month.

Until recently Kate had all discretion as to how the money was spent, I take it, and so was able to give herself EVERYTHING in the world her heart ever desired on the kids' tab, isn't that true?

I don't mind the bitch out and about, trying her hand at being a (gag) entertainer as long as the kids are left alone. She is a con person borned and bred, and there is always a sucker willing and able to finance a good con person.

So I ask you, what the heck is she spending all that money on? We know it isn't therapy for the kids, horses, lessons of any kind, clothing for them. She grifts food and drink and most of the things we all buy. I don't get it and I don't understand the ruling on this regarding Jon.

Sobby McFibberpants said...

She Grabbed His Butt said...
Did y'all see that interview she did after eliminations where she walked up and interrupted Erin and Mak's interview, and was acting all cute and flirty and grabbed Maks on the butt TWICE???????

Erin said,"Did you just feel him up?" so Kate did it again!!!!
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I saw that too! She must of felt his butt for the kids, lol. IMO, she is desperate to get Maks' attention. I guess it takes a little more than a flash of that mouth full of chiclets to get on his good side. She resorted to her famous "love taps" or grabs in this case. He still doesn't seem to care. His public comments have been pretty negative when it comes to her. I'm sure it eats her up inside.

silimom said...

My husband and I were thinking about how much money it truly costs to raise 8 kids. A government study stated that it costs about $300,000 (with inflation) for an upper middle class couple to raise a child from birth to 17.(That doesn't include college).

That's $13,000 a year. The breakdown is about 32% goes to housing, 16% food, 16% for education/child care and 14% transportation and 22% everything else (clothes, insurance, etc.) Personally, as a mom of a large family, I don't know that I would say it costs us that amount for each and every kid.

But let's just play with that number for the Gosselins. So $13,000 a year per kid times 8. That's $104,000 per year. For 8 kids.

Jon was ordered to pay $20,000 a month. That's $240,000 a year. But let's take that out of the equation for now (after all, that's relative depending on Jon's earning potential and right now that's low)

According to Jon's attorney, Kate receives $100,000 a month from TLC. $15,000 of that has to go into a trust for the kids, according to the state of PA. That leaves her with $85,000 a month. That's $1,020,000 a year. Just from TLC for Jon & Kate + 8 - we don't know what deal she's made for her other two shows. Taxes eat up 35% Federal - $357,000 a year. PA has a flat tax rate of 3.07% - $31,314. That leaves her with $631,686 a year.

So it costs $104,000 a year, according to the government to raise 8 kids. Let's say that each of the kids gets into Harvard. That's $50,000 a year for tuition and room and board. That's $200,000 for 4 years or $1,600,000 for all 8 kids. So, that's the number she has to save for. That's about $133,000 a year (based on Cara and Mady going in 9 years and the tups going in 13) to go into savings for the kids for college.

So to raise the Gosselins children, according to the federal government and to save enough to ensure them a Harvard education, Kate needs to make $237,000 a year. Oh but wait! $15,000 is required by PA to be saved. That covers college savings (as long as they do the Gosselin specials). So really, she only needs $104,000. That leaves her, after taxes, with $527,686 for her share of the expenses (housing, food, insurance, property taxes, clothing, transportation, manipedis, tanning etc.).

That's not including what she's made from the books, her speaking engagements and DWTS. That's just what she makes working for TLC.

silimom said...

Kate's income, Part 2:

Kate, no one is saying you shouldn't work. People work for a variety of reasons, and providing for our families is certainly one of them. It would appear that you make an adequate living from TLC. So the question becomes what $ amount is enough to make you feel secure? Because that's what it really comes down to - you equate wealth with personal security and self worth. Obviously you feel what you currently make isn't enough. I disagree but I'm not you.

If you feel that your current income is not sufficient, that you MUST leave your children to travel and work, then I would encourage you to consider sharing custody with Jon. Allow the kids to be with him when they aren't with you. You state in your book that they miss him, and as many commented in their interviews with you yesterday, you've never questioned his parenting ability. And the bottom line, he is their father just as you are their mother. They deserve a relationship with both of you and two parents who do not pit them against one parent or the other. You have a responsibility to your children to facilitate that relationship, as Jon does in their relationship with you.

Splitting custody doesn't have to be at your house. Let Jon get a home of his own and have the children there when it's his time. Tell TLC to ease up on Jon and allow him the chance to work in the entertainment industry as well - like many celebrities, you can work your schedules so one parent is always with the kids while the other works. If the entertainment industry wants Jon, they'll come calling. That's his issue, not yours. If he works and can make a decent living it will only serve to benefit your children, and you claim repeatedly that everything you do is for them. Put your money where your mouth is. You appear to be in demand and to have a career in the entertainment industry ahead of you. You are secure. You have nothing to fear from Jon and you do not need to be in competition with him. It's not a popularity contest.

You say you are a "High Road Taker" and that you're not petty. Prove it. Work on your relationship with Jon for the sake of your kids.

Aislinn said...

Deb B said...
"I've been very concerned about the vulnerability of all of the children since hearing the child molesters on the recent Oprah episodes describe how they choose their victims. Each and every one of these molesters, male or female, chose their victims because of the emotional neediness of the children because of parental inattention or neglect. With so many workers coming in and out of that house and how vulnerable these kids are with two absentee parents (I assume Jon is not sleeping in the house with the children when he has visitation). I am terrified for those kids -- they will attach to anyone who will give them some badly needed attention. I really feel they are in danger."

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I know! I don't understand how Kate can feel the need for a bodyguard, but then not provide one for her children. How old are these nannies they're left with? Do they sleep in the garage apartment overnight?

I don't understand why they got rid of the German Shepherds which were supposed to become guard dogs for the children.

I don't understand why they moved out in the middle of nowhere. I'd feel a lot safer in a neighborhood where there's a strong likelihood a neighbor would see or hear something if someone were to break in and call for help. There's a lot to be said for a neighborhood watch that would notice someone suspicious.

And most importantly, I don't understand why these parents would show so much of their children on a tv show, and then in addition to that, not give the kids any sense of "stranger danger." The kids latch onto any guest or crew that comes into the home or that anyone meet on a trip!

I agree, it's all a recipe for disaster!

Kate is disgusting said...

Monster Mommy said..."Kate dismissed Kevin and Jodi today on Joy Behar by saying they've done this for the money. Talk about PROJECTION."

This is TEXT BOOK narcissistic behavior. Those children truly need to be removed from her presence all together. She needs to lose ALL custody of those children if there is ever to be any hope for them as adults.

It is a shame there is no one but Uncle Kevin and Aunt Jodi who have enough personal conviction and backbone to stand up and let the truth be known! Shame on the rest of their family members.

I think it is reprehensible that EVERYONE around that cesspool of child exploitation called Kate Gosselin and TLC, and EVERYONE who has personal knowledge ie: family and friends are silent on what they know.

The other TV channels, shows and reporters are just as guilty of pimping for profit as Kate Gosselin and TLC.

readerlady said...

@ silimom

Math gives me a headache - I'm terrible at it - so I can't and won't try to disprove your figures, except to say that it wouldn't take 32% for housing for each child. That 32% should be spread among the 8, so the per child figure should be lower than $13,000 per month (I think - any CPAs on here LOL?). Otherwise - your post is wise, well-thought-out and makes perfect sense. So of course, there's no way Khate will take your advice. Anyway - applause for a great post.

Kate's income said...

silimom said...

It would appear that you make an adequate living from TLC. So the question becomes what $ amount is enough to make you feel secure? Because that's what it really comes down to - you equate wealth with personal security and self worth. Obviously you feel what you currently make isn't enough. I disagree but I'm not you.


4/15/2010 11:20 AM

At what point did her (or anyone else's) income become our business? I would not want anyone to dissect what my income is and how much they think I need to make.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"So it costs $104,000 a year, according to the government to raise 8 kids."

That's if they attend public school. Add to that another $200,000 which, assuming that they graduate from the school in which they are attending, will be the tuition cost alone. That's going to knock a little bit off of their Harvard nest egg.

Penny said...

Just wanted to respond to Kate being away from her children while working as a nurse...

I am a RN. When I worked at the hospital I did three 12 hour shifts per week. And, I worked nights so I could see my son during the day. Then, I started working as a home health RN. I worked 8-5 Monday through Friday and pretty much made my own sced of when I saw my patients. If I wanted to run and have lunch with my kids and swing by and see a patient I could. Now, I'm working as a school nurse. I currently work 7:45 AM- 3:30 PM. I take my son to school in the morning. Then, my mom picks him up after school. He's only at her house about 45 minutes before I pick him up and take him home with me.

I have been a nurse for 13 years. I have two children (ages 19 and 7) and I've never missed a ballgame or a school play. I've never missed a field trip or an awards ceremony.

So, when Kate says she'll be away from the kids just as much as a nurse it is pure and utter BS. Now, she will not make as much money doing it. But, if I recall correctly when Jon was working fulltime, Kate was able to only work weekends and somehow they made it. Now that the kids are in school (particularly when they start full-time) she wouldn't even have to work part-time anymore.

But, they couldn't live the "lifestyle" they are living now. Kate thinks we're all dumb and can't think on our own.

Jenny said...

K8 is a very wealthy woman...I just think she realizes how much mileage she gets in public opinion our of her act of crying & whining about how people are all just so mean to her, jealous of her and out to make money on her. She thrives on people's pity.

You're right, I don't think Kevin & Jodi have gotten a dime. I saw a clip of the Joy Behar interview. K8 kept coming back to & repeating the theme that "they're making hundreds of thousands of dollars" with their lies, so that tells us she's probably been counseled to concentrate on that particular story line as opposed to actually answering the questions & allegations about what went down during filming with the kids.

One of these days, she'll come to realize that the only one using her to make money is TLC. They'll eventually drop her like a hot potato but by then she won't have any family left that she's on speaking terms with. How sad is it to go through life with so many bad relationships within your own family...the very ones we're given for love, help & support. It feels like she traded them all in for her new paid-for friends. And all in the name of the almighty dollar. She's busy making her bed and she's definitely going to end up sleeping in it. Alone. Sad, sad, sad.

fidosmommy said...

The film footage is out there forever - Kate on more than one occasion was surprised to see moments of her kid's lives that she did not see unless it was on film. Specifically one episode when the girls were being potty trained - Jon and Kate were not present in the laundry room where the potties were but the cameraman was! Hard to deny these things when it is on film.


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Then there was a similar situation when Collin would not "pee" (probably because he didn't have to yet, but I don't know) and Kate turned out the light, closed the door and left him in there with the cameraman, telling him not to get up until he had done what he went in there to do. I thought it was creepy then, and have written about it here before. GWoPers were saying Kate left him in the dark bathroom ALONE. There was either a running camera mounted on the wall of that bathroom or else there was a cameraperson in that dark room with that little boy.
I was appalled then and remain so.

readerlady said...

It's interesting. I belong to a Cat Fancy list and have participated in some rescue transports. Basically, cats (or dogs, and sometimes other animals) are pulled from shelters with a high kill rate, or from rescues that are overloaded, and transported to forever homes or to non-kill shelters and rescues that have space. It works like a chain - each transporter drives a certain distance, then turns the animals over to another driver for the next leg of the journey. The drivers arrange to meet in public, easy to find places like large parking lots, etc. Last w/e a person was transporting 16 dogs removed from a high kill shelter in the South, and 15 were headed to a rescue and/or forever homes in the NE. The 16 was going to a forever home in Pennsylvania. The driver was arrested and the animals confiscated in Pa when the one animal was turned over to its new owner. The charge -selling an animal in public. The 16 dogs were taken to a kill shelter that had previously been closed to new intake because it was too full. They are still there, and will not be released. Seems Pa law cares more about the "safety" and well-being of well-cared for animals than for the children who live there. Shame some of those regulations can't be applied to the G8.

goawayJandK said...

Churchmouse, unfortunately, the sheeple will NEVER get it.

What I don't understand is how the sheeple can continue to turn a blind eye to her lies ? Things that are not based on opinion, but cold, hard, facts?


- K8's 'infertility" story
- amount of bedrest
- kids never watch tv, only eat organic
- no help
- family mission statement
- their "faith"
- vow renewal (probably the ABSOLUTE WORST lie)
- amount of time spent away from kids
- NOT being the author of Multiple Bull$hit
- latest interview with Joy B

She disgusts me and I really hope she rots where the sun don't shine.

Rose said...

Penny, it's too bad Kate can't be forced to read your post. I would absolutely love to see what kind of response she'd come up with for that one, from a real-world mother who survives what she claims cannot be done. She would argue, of course, that two kids is nothing compared to eight, but that would just be a quick and easy cop-out for her, which she has become very good at (and apparently, the media allows her to get away with it). She could support those kids just fine on a nurse's salary and still find time to be with them. Trouble is, she just doesn't want to give up the high-profile lifestyle she's grown accustomed to, and she doesn't want to accept help from her family, like normal people would in her situation. Too bad for her.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"At what point did her (or anyone else's) income become our business? I would not want anyone to dissect what my income is and how much they think I need to make."

Ordinarily, I would agree with a hearty "amen." However, since she is the one who went on national television sobbing about unpaid bills in her purse; how much it cost to raise a family of eight as a single mom; how she would have to go back and work 168-hour works weeks as a nurse (well, maybe not THAT many!); rolls her eyes when asked if Jon is paying support...she's opened herself up to those who choose to dissect anything, including income.

Give Me A Break said...

At what point did her (or anyone else's) income become our business? I would not want anyone to dissect what my income is and how much they think I need to make.


Lordy Lordy, I think it became our business when she went on national television crying that she couldn't pay her bills when along she did. I don't care how much she makes, just that she shuts up about doing it all for the kids.

For once I just want her to admit she is addicted to the fame and enjoys the perks of the paycheck.

Jane in CA said...

At what point did her (or anyone else's) income become our business? I would not want anyone to dissect what my income is and how much they think I need to make.
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Kate's income was put at issue by Kate herself. She has said during interviews more than once, that she has to work to support her kids (intimating that she is receiving no support money from Jon, when we know from court documents that he has been ordered to pay in the five figures per month. Since Kate's attorneys haven't filed anything with the court to indicate Jon is not paying his child support, one must assume that he is).

Secondly, Kate has said she can't afford to raise her children on a nurse's income. Again, she neglects to factor in the amount Jon was ordered to pay in monthly support. However, I would agree that Jon is not working right now, and I don't see any source of regular income for him. I think his attorney will be successful in getting the child support order modified to more accurately reflect Jon's income AND earning potential (most likely based on his work experience in the IT field and otherwise, not an "entertainment" sort of income).

The fact remains that Kate is always claiming that she has to earn alot of money to raise the children. I say if she frittered away the millions of dollars they already made off their children, then Kate is a very poor money manager and planner.

She should have chosen to life modestly, made do with the Elizabethtown (?) home, had the children in public schools, cut out the shopping sprees for expensive clothing, spray tans, weaves, teeth whitening, botox, plastic surgery, diamond jewelry, mani-pedicures, expensive cars, and oh yes, that pointless bodyguard.

Because of her very public claims of needing to do certain things in order to have an income, Kate has brought her income into the public venue and thus we feel free to discuss, speculate, and mock.

If you don't want your income to be anyone else's business, then the first thing a person should do is shut their yap about how much money they need.

Jane in CA said...

"That leaves her with $631,686 a year.

So it costs $104,000 a year, according to the government to raise 8 kids."

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Wow, that first figure blows my mind. If Kate had any smarts whatsoever, she should be socking away as much of that income as possible, for the day when TLC forgets her name.

As to the second figure, all I can say is that I do not earn anywhere close to $104,000/year, yet I've raised and provided for my child for almost 12 years. Most people do a pretty good job of raising their children for considerably less than $104K per child per year. We've always had plenty of food to eat, lived in clean and safe rentals until I was able to get us a small home, clothed him, paid for school supplies, took inexpensive vacations, etc., etc.

It's not always easy, but it's definitely doable, especially if as the parent, you are willing to do without a lot of luxuries.

But Kate is all about appearances, and everything has to be the latest, the best, the most recognizable name brand, etc. Public schools aren't good enough for her children, they have to go to an expensive private one, all 8 of 'em! A nice home in the suburbs wasn't good enough - she had to have a McMansion. A Dodge Caravan wouldn't be acceptable as her main car, she's got to have a flashy expensive SUV. She can't paint her nails herself, she has to go to the salon every week.

The woman thinks she's Princess Diana, when she's really more Tonya Harding.

IDModo said...

I have been researching Child Abuse laws in all 50 states and each of them has a similar "duty to report" clause to the one we have in Ontario. Reports can be made anonymously and must be investigated.
This makes what happened on Jon & Kate plus 8 even more evil in my opinion. Where there is a proviso that reports can be made without fear of repercussion, and TLC staff members had concerns about what was going on, why were reports not made? And if they were, why were they not investigated? And if they were investigated, why was the program allowed to continue?
If children do not have the safeguard of a department (Child Protective Services) set up to look after their interests, who can they trust to look after them?And if people who witness abuse do not report it, they are as complicit as the abusers.
There are a lot of people who have much to answer for as the Gosselin children grow up in their distorted world.

Wake Up said...

OMG! Of course Kate Gosselin made her income everyones' business when she went on the Today Show crying over how broke she was, and has since, on many occasions, discussed her income and financial issues to the world.

IDModo said...

P.S. I feel really dumb for not checking the American child abuse laws before spouting off about the Ontario ones.I should have known better. Of course PA has child abuse legislation in place.If I sounded arrogant, bloggers, please forgive my stupidity!
Having said that, I'm sure we all believe that the legislation should have been applied in this case.How very kind of everyone not to smack my Canadian ass for stating the obvious..

Pa Mom Knows said...

"OMG! Of course Kate Gosselin made her income everyones' business when she went on the Today Show crying over how broke she was, and has since, on many occasions, discussed her income and financial issues to the world."

Don't forget that photo of her standing at the copy (or fax) machine with her itemized expenses/income exposed for all the paps and the world to see!

Can't See Sheep said...

Kate Gosselin: Waterworks Woman
http://justjared.buzznet.com/2010/04/15/kate-gosselin-waterworks/

This is kinda funny & sad. kate seems to think that the hearing that Kevin went to was in New York.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Penny@1202: Thank you for another RN's dismantling K8G's lie about why she can't return to nursing.

AS IF we RN's are forced to work 72 hr weeks as K8G's claim that she'd "have to work 12 hour shifts 6 days/week". (Did K8G fail math??)

Thanks for substantiating what I've been saying on this blog for a long time: RN's have MANY options from which to use, and not all of them even include direct patient care nor rotating shifts.

K8G is a liar. Yet she loves to start her sentences with, "Honestly...." or "To tell you the truth...." or "I'm not going to lie....".

Promising NOT to lie then following up with an absolute untruth: the woman sure knows how to get the most bang for her buck, lying-wise

BeDoneNow said...

IDModo said...
P.S. I feel really dumb for not checking the American child abuse laws before spouting off about the Ontario ones.I should have known better. Of course PA has child abuse legislation in place.If I sounded arrogant, bloggers, please forgive my stupidity!
Having said that, I'm sure we all believe that the legislation should have been applied in this case.How very kind of everyone not to smack my Canadian ass for stating the obvious..

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YOU my dear, are the kindest and most gracious of people. Please, no worries. At least not from my small corner of Ohio. :)

SandyW said...

IDModo said...
P.S. I feel really dumb...

I feel really touched that people like you are our neighbors to the North. Thank you for caring about the welfare and well-being of our kids, because it is true -- it takes a village. And you, dear are a great example of a good neighbor and world citizen.

ChurchMouse said...

So this is how Ms. Gosselin rewards someone who is trying to get better industry protection for her kids. In an interview:

Jim Moret: "Do you feel at all betrayed by your brother for prompting that hearing?"

Gosselin: "I do actually because he has four children of his own...Spending time in court and gallivanting to New York to complain about me...couldn't he be at home with his kids?"

Pot, meet kettle.

Vanessa said...

Yes, the only comment Kate made about the hearing is that Kevin and Jodi have made hundreds of thousands of dollars. Nothing about how serious the allegations are, nothing about TLC not obtaining the proper permits, nothing about "faking" life for the cameras, nothing about filming the kids in inappropriate situtations or alone. Kevin and Jodi only spoke of what they witnessed. Kate NEVER answers to anyone, it's the constant spin she's been spewing since we all laid eyes on her. AND JON!! You douche! Just shut the hell up, you flip-flop like nobody's business!

Squeakycart said...

Has anyone else noticed that poor Kate can't afford to feed her kids, but she's been sporting a diamond solitare necklace in pics lately, interviews, DWTS etc. Wonder who gave it to her? The Body Guard/Boyfriend?

children should be allowed dignity said...

Jane in CA, in terms of a court-appointed trustee: "However, because that makes too much sense and protects the children's rights too much, I doubt it will happen."
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Although protections can happen for the future, it's staggering to think of all the unprotected money of the past years since the start of the Gosselins' reality show...in terms of how it's been spent, saved, invested. I find no faith to draw on that either parent took great pains to put aside the appropriate amount of money for their kids (who, after all, EARNED it and lost so much other stuff in the bargain, such as PRIVACY and CHILDHOOD).

Prove us wrong, Jon and Kate. If you've got nothing to hide, spill...details. You talk about everything else. (But I've noted that this is one of the iffy subjects the Gosselins only vaguely address in past Q&A and, sure, it's private information...but if I was under scrutiny and had nothing to hide, I'd sure take the opportunity to lay it all out and put water on the fire of conjecture.)

I remember my mom telling me from time to time over the years how child actors were screwed over on their earnings before laws were in place to protect royalties and paychecks, like kids from the Our Gang comedies and those early black & white movies (I'm wondering if Shirley Temple came out okay, come to think of it, in terms of the money?). Doesn't seem like, some sixty or seventy years later, there should even still be discussions about the welfare of children being filmed under parental consent. I think it was just recently in Good Housekeeping magazine that Brooke Shields is only now revealing how her mother used up most of Brooke's earnings--she's still trying to clean up the real estate failures of her mom's in New Jersey.

It's pretty low...to mistreat or take advantage of the vulnerable: animals, senior adults, the mentally-sick or physically-challenged...young children...your OWN children?

And, IDModo, when you said, "Please forgive the length of this post, but I'm beyond angry. I spent a 33 year career trying to protect children from abusers inside and outside of their families, and in all that time I never felt so helpless as I do now..." I can feel your frustration and it's justified.

Beyond the money issues, TLC's camera on J&K+8 was very often too invasive. At least when Jon was pulling out Collin's poop outside the furniture store while Kate sat inside reading a brochure, not wanting to be bothered by her ailing son, they shot that scene from a respectable distance. But there was one scene I can't remember enough about to properly comment upon but which really disturbed me at the time and brought me up short, thinking "that's not appropriate to show and it was totally gratuitous!" (I think it was one of the girl tups in the e-town yard needing to go inside the house for potty time.) These were the things, among more to come, that made many of us take a step back and analyze what exactly we were watching and if it was the right thing for the kids.

WallyWinnie said...

I was saddened how Jodi's voice crackled several times during the testimony regarding her neices and nephews.

Kevin reached over to comfort her at each of these noticably emotional times.

Jodi and Kevin both did an excellent job reading and answering questions. That took guts!

twitter.com/light_peak said...

My gift for you (took all but 3 minutes to make and publish):

Captioned For Her Pleasure:
http://tinypic.com/r/15cy2c3/5

aka Kate's crocodile tears on 'Inside Edition' (from a Huffington Post article about her kvetching about her tattle-tale brother.

The Real Dorothy Grimes said...

At one point Kate stated that she had put $80,000, $10K for each kid, away. Never said a trust, etc. The scoop MSNBC from Kate, Kevin wanted attention. Yes, well if that is the case Kevin and Jodi could have sold their story to a tabloid. Teflon Kate. This is the only post that I wrote.

bonehead said...

Well, I just heard this on Access, Kate was asked why you working or could you stay at home from all the money you make. Her new answer is she has legal debt? So she has legal fee for what? I thought TLC was taking care of that? Oh, yeah about 90% of the people who e-mail Access want her to disappear. And Access says the reason they keep having her on is because of her divorce, that made her famous? PLEASE that is no excuse. And yeah she also talked about selling her privacy to TLC and said something to the effect that it would make no difference if they were on TV or not, what she said did not make sense.

Church Lady said...

Kate's income said: "At what point did her (or anyone else's) income become our business? I would not want anyone to dissect what my income is and how much they think I need to make."

Don't go panhandling to churches giving a poor sob story, collecting $20 a pop for pictures of your kids (cash only, please) from hardworking individuals while you're pulling down $22-25K an epi and it's doubtful anyone would dissect your finances.

SoCalGal said...

silimom-I love your posting of how Khate should take the high road and let Jon have more visiting privileges. But that would go against everything she's been preaching.
She is a "single mom" who is trying to make a living to provide for her kids.
Although we know this is bs if she were to give in and allow him more time it would mean that she really is an absentee mom (which she is).

SoCalGal said...

silimom-If only it could be. That Khate would come to her "senses"(we know she doesn't have any) and put the kids first. It would actually improve her image.
That's what I don't understand. Why is she happy 2b the wicked witch? I guess as someone else said any publicity is better than no publicity.

SoCalGal said...

Aislinn-The reason they moved to the boondocks was so TLC could film without any questions being asked and the property had an Apt over the garage for Jon to live in since we know the separation started in Oct2008 and the house was bought in Nov-Dec2008.
Perfect cover-up.

debbiejo said...

Khart keeps showing up on all the interview shows...Leno tonight....yuk.

Anyway, she keeps saying her brother made "hundreds of thousands of dollars" off her...and he is now "out of money and is trying to get more".

Can someone try to get in the mind of Khart ( I can't do it...I wont do it) and tell us how Khart of Stepford would say he made "hundreds of thousands of dollars" off her and her kids? Where would she say he got that much $$$?

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SoCalGal said...

Khate is sooooo full of it!
Saying that her brother and his wife made hundreds of thousands of $$$$$$$ giving interviews about the Gosselins it total bs.
The two of them gave a few interviews which I don't think were paid for.
I think she must be thinking of herself.
I think Jodi & Kevin should write a tell all book with all of the information backed up by fact.

Alice Blue Gown said...

Anybody think Kart lies like a rug? Read below about Kevin and Jodi.


"Every single time they were visiting my kids, they would turn around and be on some sort of a show the next day talking about, you know, what it is that they saw inside our house," Gosselin said. "With that kind of trust ruined and knowing that they have made hundreds of thousands of dollars on lies about us, I'm not sure what their goals are, because they were a part of our show and things were all fine and dandy then."

"They feel like, you know, I guess the money's run out, and so they want to make more money, and they want to stir up more trouble," she said. "But they don't have access to my kids."

readerlady said...

The more I think about it, the more I wonder if Jon really did Tweet "backstabbers" about Jodi and Kevin. Seems to me I remember hearing something about him doing that when they first came forward with concerns about the kids. Makes me wonder if some news outlet resurrected that and reported it as being a recent thing instead of happening over a year ago. Or maybe it's his signal to them "way to go", since we know he maintains a relationship with them. We've seen the pictures of him allowing them to visit the kids this summer and heard reports of him and Kevin going out together. So I wouldn't be too quick to condemn him yet.

Wish one of those "journalists" had tried to pin Khate down re her assertions that Kevin and Jodi made "hundreds of thousands of dollars off me and my kids". Questions like - just when - what dates, where did the articles appear, when, what did they say - and then sit back and let her "UMM" herself to death. I'd pay to see that.

Bleeting Sheeple said...

There was no trust for them in the beginning, but not there is an irrevocable trust. That's a start...
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It' called Katan and her attorney's covering their arses.
Bottom line, cut it anyway you want, Kart had these kids and from pregnancy was making deals to profit from them.
As far as her means to pay for her family, I am tired of hearing about how if she went back to nursing it would be 6 days a week with 12 hour shifts and what WOULD the difference be..... Lemme tell you what the difference would be ...you would be in the same state, the same town and the same house with those kids when off your shift. NOT due to your schedule be any where in the nation (and perhaps at some point globally) away from them. You would, exhausted as you would be (like God knows how many other SINGLE MOMS)be able to attend Parent Teacher conferences (even IF you were late), go to their school activities(Yes, working around your work schedule like REAL SINGLE MOMS), and be able to seem them EVERY SINGLE DAY.
So take the song and dance about making money for supporting the kids and shove it where the sun doesn't shine Kart. Give the kids to Jon, after all when you WERE married to him (at the end of the marriage) you just kept him round as a glorified babysitter..... so just let him keep doing that. At least THIS babysitter would be a PARENT and not some hired help. geeeeeesh!!!!

Bleeting Sheeple said...

The more I think about it, the more I wonder if Jon really did Tweet "backstabbers" about Jodi and Kevin.
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Seems to me that after the litigation with TLC everyone was under the impression that TLC had clamped Jon's mouth tight, hence no one has heard not ONE PEEP from him.
I surmise 1 of 2 things, either it's a fake tweet, or his attorney told him to take a stance showing support of KATAN during this particular media blitz in order to solidify his stake at getting the kids..... just my thoughts

Midnight Serenade said...

"Gosselin: "I do actually because he has four children of his own...Spending time in court and gallivanting to New York to complain about me...couldn't he be at home with his kids?"

New York? Who was in New York? The hearing was held in Horsham, PA, about an hour and a half from Kevin's house.

Sam said...

FYI, there are 6 different jon gosselin accounts on Twitter, not one of them has been verified.
I follow Tom Hanks, Keith Olbermann, Rachael Meaddow their verified accounts only.

If I were Kevin and Jodi, I would hire an attorney stat and sue that lying witch for defamation of character. She better have concrete proof to prove her statements.

Lillie Mae Acres said...

15% is such a small amount for what their life is like and the $$ they've made their parents. Their future is going to be much worse than we've heard any child star from the past talk about I'm afraid. You know, I've always believed that if one person has a problem with you it may not be you, but if almost everyone does, especially your entire family, then it must be you KATE!!! These poor kids don't even know their grandparents.

SaNdY said...

If you haven't done so, read Paul Peterson's take on the hearing on his website, A Minor Consideration(there's a link to it on the right side of this blog) I watched the video of the hearing (thank you jibber jabbers, for posting the link) and I'm not convinced at all that much will be done soon enough to protect kids....I cannot believe that TLC received no fines or punishment or any kind! Not even a slap on the wrist, but their word that they would do things by the book in the future!!!!! To use Katie Irene's words, that's horrendously horrendous!! Someone else posted that bribery may be involved and I would not be surprised at all to find out that some of the money that TLC has been rolling in (money made by the Gosselin kids)was used to bribe people in the PA Labor Department...on the other hand, kudos to Kevin and Jodi, they did an excellent job at the hearing!!

Payson48 said...

To bad kate can't write a book about something other than her children. She's still/always using them for the almighty $$. Every other sentence is referring to the kids......BORING. What is your talent kate? Lots of women have kids and do things for their kids-you aren't the first-sorry-that was probably a shock to hear.

Kart's a Sock Puppet said...

I am really wondering if TLC or Kate is pretending to be Jon on twitter. Has Jon ever twittered in the past? It seems too convenient that he would suddenly make comments to thousands of people who follow twitter when he has been ordered to be quiet for months. So NOW he can talk?? He probably has a gag order from speaking up and correcting the record by saying TLC ever did anything dishonest like impersonating him.

Also, I Kevin and Jodi did nother but run to tabloids, why doesn't one of the idiots who interview her ask why she praised them so much on the show and always let them babysit and participate in the show until the gum incident? Because no one ever watched the show, that's why!

Lillie Mae Acres said...

$80,000! Only $10,000 per kid is all she had put away? That's nothing, it wouldn't last half a year these days. What a joke they both are, I'm just sick of both K and J at this point. All media should just refuse to mention their names ever again, all contracts voided, and the state of PA should watch every step they take until all their kids are 18 yrs old.

linnniepoo said...

What bothers me most about Kate's allegations against Kevin and Jodi making money off her kids is the fact that they were always there for her and Jon when they needed something. For instance, when they took all 8 sick kids into their home so Tweedledum could accompany Tweedledee to L.A. to get hair plugs. Or, when they took the kids (I mean, girls) to their "special days."

I also remember a story about Kate demanding Jodi to pay for some organic beef that she got for free? Forgive me if I'm wrong, it's been a long since I've read about that. Kate is just a sad, sad example of what it means to be a human being. She does not have one compassionate, caring bone in her body.

Kate's Nemesis said...

Most of the comments here are very well thought out, and informative. Unlike other forums like ROL, where it looks like the Gosselin Tups are posting their Kindergarten homework! I too, commend Jodi and Kevin in their efforts to see this thing through. Both were very passionate, and well spoken; although I felt bad that Jodi was reduced to the point of tears. I've watched the show since its' inception- and have seen every episode. They were disturbing to say the least. Why is it okay for TLC to air a child getting a "parental induced enema" in the parking lot, showering naked and being potty trained? Collin was left there for more than 45 minutes... Jon at work- no Kate in sight. Look it up on the DVD Penn State Legislators! Do something for the kids, 'cause their mother certainly isn't! Kate lives in a world where nothing is sacred.

LIZ123 said...

OK,so this might seem kinda stupid but couldn't Gloria Alldread file an advocacy type lawsuit for the nudity that was filmed?

Kate's Nemesis said...

Now I've seen it all. Enough with the new Reality Show featuring the children. Uncle Kevin is correct... to my horror, one Gosselin child has been a major target concerning internet hatred. She has been called the "C" word, and many other sites are dedicated to bashing the minor online. I pulled up a Facebook page entitled **** Gosselin is a... I can not even repeat it. What's worse, is her photos are plastered all over such sites, destroying any hope she has for a normal adulthood, let alone childhood. Unreal. Please stop them- Kreider Family, as we are going to have a real media tragedy displayed before our eyes. Then who will bear witness?

Vanessa said...

Now it's NOT the kids she has to work for, it's because she's got LEGAL BILLS! "And that's the truth Billy" Who is to blame for those legal bills?? If you'd have had an amicable split maybe you'd be done with legal bills. Woe is me again, my deadbeat ex is (sniff sniff) fighting me for custody. Too bad she didn't fight for her kids with the same gusto when they were being filmed nude by strangers. Oh yeah I forgot, the crew was like "family". Yes, wouldn't you all let a family member film your kids on the toilet or in the shower, because that's what families do, right?
A resounding 90% of pollsters on AH last night voted they were sick and tired of seeing Kate Gosselin!

koopdedoo said...

Jane in CA said...


The woman thinks she's Princess Diana, when she's really more Tonya Harding.

4/15/2010 1:32 PM

This one really made me laugh!

tigerfan said...

"Every single time they were visiting my kids, they would turn around and be on some sort of a show the next day talking about, you know, what it is that they saw inside our house," Gosselin said. "With that kind of trust ruined and knowing that they have made hundreds of thousands of dollars on lies about us, I'm not sure what their goals are, because they were a part of our show and things were all fine and dandy then."

OK..things were all fine and dandy when they WERE part of the J & K show BUT things went sour with the Kate and Jodi/Kevin relationship while J & K were STILL married and before the Jodi/Kevin ROL/Today Show interviews of LAST YEAR. It works in Kate's favor to PRETEND that it was the ROL/Today Show interviews that prompted HER estrangment from Jodi and Kevin. That reasoning may accomodate Kate's image at the moment, but lets back up to the time frame when J & K were STILL married, the J & K + 8 show was still in production and years(s) BEFORE the Jodi/Kevin 2009 ROL/Today Show interviews even existed. The SPECIFIC time frame when TLC offered to compensate Jodi and Kevin for FUTURE appearances on the J & K + 8 show because AT THAT SPECIFIC TIME, Jodi and Kevin were NOT being monetarily compensated for their appearance. What was the status of Kate's relationship with Jodi and Kevin at THAT SPECIFIC TIME and the months and year that followed?

Can't See Sheep said...

Midnight Serenade said...

"Gosselin: "I do actually because he has four children of his own...Spending time in court and gallivanting to New York to complain about me...couldn't he be at home with his kids?"

New York? Who was in New York? The hearing was held in Horsham, PA, about an hour and a half from Kevin's house.
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That made me giggle. She's whining & moaning about Kevin saying stuff about her & she doesn't even know where the hearing is. I loved, loved, loved that she went on about him gallivanting & how he should be home with his kids. If it's okay for her to be out & about then there's no reason why her brother shouldn't.

I think she's afraid that someone will do better than she has. I don't think she could bear it if Kevin's house was as big as hers. She seems to need her little perks so that she can use them to look down her nose at others. No joy for anyone else doing well in life. Sick. What a hypocrite & as nasty as it may sound, I'm really going to enjoy her descent. Silly girl hasn't planned one bit for coming back down.

It's really is sick that kate has to be told to put money away from her kids. They were so little how could you rob your own babies. How could you not want to ensure the best future possible for them. Then to say if they want rings they have to get jobs & pay for them themselves, what a vile narcissist! They've paid for any ring many times over already & they're not even in grade one yet. 15% is too little, especially when they were most of the draw, especially as we'd have never known who Jon & kate were without them. It's not like either of them had some hidden talent that would have catapulted them into the spotlight one day, if they'd have never had the children.

You know I don't know that that was Jon Twittering either, come to think of it. If he did then he "signed" the Twitters with his name & that seems a bit strange. Something just doesn't sit right with it & many seem to be voicing that. It could also be his code to Kevin & Jody as someone here has already posted, telling them "Good job". That way he'd look like he'd be supporting kate & there wouldn't be a lot TLC could say about it.

Cry Me a River said...

If they made hundreds of thousands of dollars they certainly did not elevate their lifestyle. Khatan is spinning her web of lies and I think Jodi and Kevin should dispute that and sue her for defamation of character as well. Khatan and her lies need to be stopped. Glad to see that at least some of the shows are giving her a tiny bit of heat for her actions as well they should.

lifeoriley said...

You know, Kate has a problem with her brother talking about her annd the things he thinks are wrong with filming the children while she herself uses the media to talk about others, her CHILDREN included and what she thinks their faults are. What a hypocrite.
So it's OK for her to make money from books and interviews regarding the private lives of others (her CHILDREN) but it's not OK for her brother to speak at an unpaid government hearing?
What will she do if her kids grow up and make money about writing how she ruined their childhoods? Turn-about is fair play, Kate.

Midnight Serenade said...

"Wish one of those "journalists" had tried to pin Khate down re her assertions that Kevin and Jodi made "hundreds of thousands of dollars off me and my kids"."

What I would like to hear one of those "journalists" say, in response to her assertion, is "well, didn't you?" [make money off your kids]. Let the "ums" flow...

Gerry Carlssen said...

Anyone else find it an odd coincidence that Jon and Kate had all but dropped off the tabloid/paparrazzi's radar and then all this stuff, from Kate appearing on DWTS to Jon filing a custody suit to the PA hearing and all the backlash comments suddenly lights up the media....just in advance of the release of Kate's new book and her upcoming new TV shows?

Marionana said...

Your absolutely right...if her fans watched the show regularly they'd have to be "NUTS" to support her.

Anonymous said...

Kate can control who can and cannot see her children but in 10 to 12 years the children may decide they don't want to see her.

Momof2 said...

Remember the episode when they went to the new house and Kate was obsessively cleaning out the fridge (for FOUR hours) that they were going to replace anyway? One of the boy tups was shown upstairs on the toilet...and he needed to be wiped...and he was calling and calling for Kate and she never came? Then one of the other boy tups went to get Kate to help and she said something like "it's too bad, he'll have to wait" and then started screeching for Jon who was OUTSIDE on the property to come in and wipe the hiney?

Jon is OUTSIDE, Kate can only focus on the dirty fridge, and a camera crew is in the house filming the one who needs to be wiped.

Eva Chavela said...

I don't get it. Are women not allowed to make money, work and have kids at the same time? I don't see what the problem is.

Aislinn said...

Momof2 said...
"Remember the episode when they went to the new house and Kate was obsessively cleaning out the fridge (for FOUR hours) that they were going to replace anyway? One of the boy tups was shown upstairs on the toilet...and he needed to be wiped...and he was calling and calling for Kate and she never came? Then one of the other boy tups went to get Kate to help and she said something like "it's too bad, he'll have to wait" and then started screeching for Jon who was OUTSIDE on the property to come in and wipe the hiney?

Jon is OUTSIDE, Kate can only focus on the dirty fridge, and a camera crew is in the house filming the one who needs to be wiped."

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Yes! That was so sad! I couldn't understand how it took her 4 hours to clean the refridgerator either. It didn't look that dirty. I couldn't tell if it was a Kate lie and that it really didn't take that long or if she had gone to some scary place in her head where nothing was clean enough.

That was so sad the way she never came to help the boy calling for help. It's like that other time a couple of the tups came to get her to help the others with something while she was eating a salad or something and she just snarled at them. The look of disgust she gave the camera-person afterwards chilled my soul.

2badsosad said...

Gosselin: "I do actually because he has four children of his own...Spending time in court and gallivanting to New York to complain about me...couldn't he be at home with his kids?"

How many times has KATE gallivanted to another STATE and left her EIGHT children behind to pursue media interviews where she COMPLAINS about everything from, having a purse full of bills, her ex husband, the paparrazi, and now Jodi and Kevin? Instead of KATE gallivanting from STATE to STATE doing media interview after media interview COMPLAINING about HER LIFE, 'couldnt' and SHOULDNT SHE be home with HER kids!

Jane in CA said...

I don't get it. Are women not allowed to make money, work and have kids at the same time? I don't see what the problem is.
* * *

Have you read any of the many posts on here, especially those from working moms. Here's my story: single mom, work full time, have one child.

There is no judgment coming from me or anyone here about moms who juggle work and home. The criticism is solely centered on Kate purposely having multiples, selling them like commodities to get a tv show, making them work under hot lots and in violation of child labor laws, letting them be filmed going to the bathroom, in a state of undress, etc., being cruel to them, being one of the worst mothers I have ever seen, mistreated and verbally and physically abusing her husband, spending the money the children earned without setting aside a fair amount for them until required to do so. . . .

The list could go on and on. Do you need me to provide more information on where my criticism is coming from?

fidosmommy said...

Eva Chavela said...
I don't get it. Are women not allowed to make money, work and have kids at the same time? I don't see what the problem is.


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Of course women are allowed to make money, work and have kids at the same time.

However, if Jane Doe's job is to be a movie actor, she should be a movie actor in her own right, not because she gave children birth. She should not be able to exploit her children by using them to get her jobs because they are what made her famous in the first place.

If Kate Gosselin had given birth to her children and then gone to work as a TV celebrity because she had the talent to do it, and was
keeping her children out of it, nobody would care what she did. Most would probably think she had a very nice set-up and would leave her alone. Much like Katie Holmes or Sarah Jessica Parker or Gwyneth
Paltrow. They work, travel, etc. but don't use their kids to promote themselves.

But all Kate's job offers are because she is the mother of 8, six of them born at the same time.
She has no other genuine accomplishment to her name. She is counting on that one thing to take her to the top.

That is exploitation of children - her own children. And it must stop. That is the whole point of GWoP, I believe - to call Kate out on this, and to get her to use her own God-given abilities to get work, and to stop riding on her Mother fame.

Wendy Bird said...

I "follow" Jon on twitter, and he has a real account. This is what he has tweeted recently:

The allegations made today by Kevin and Jodi Kreider have not been my experience at all during the production of “Jon & Kate plus8. 12:50 PM Apr 14th via web

Kate and I were doing what was best for our family. And it gave us an opportunity to spend quality family time together. Jon Gosselin
12:50 PM Apr 14th via web


AND

By all means I am not doing playgirl. I have no intentions on doing it whatsoever. No one ever contacted my reps or myself.
3:05 PM Mar 5th via Social Beat


The "Playgirl" post was posted via "Social Beat," and the ones regarding Kevin and Jodi were posted "via web".

TLC may very well be "guiding" Jon's responses to the labor hearing. I say this because both tweets about Kevin and Jodi were at 12:50 PM. I don't think that he could type fast enough to have both appear within the same minute, but who knows. Also, as someone already mentioned, Jon "signed" one of the tweets; "Jon Gosselin." I looked at all of his tweets since he began tweeting in August of 2009, and he has never "signed" a tweet before...things that make you go hmmmmm.

fidosmommy said...

Aislinn said.....
That was so sad the way she never came to help the boy calling for help. It's like that other time a couple of the tups came to get her to help the others with something while she was eating a salad or something and she just snarled at them. The look of disgust she gave the camera-person afterwards chilled my soul.


*****

I remember that. They were on their way to shop for the tups
5th Birthday party. She had told them all to get ready, and she sat down for an 'eat and chat' at the dining table - she ate while she talked to the camera. Aaden came running up with one of his sisters
to say the boys wouldn't let Aaden in the room to get ready. She waved her hand at them and told them "uh huh, yeah, OK, now go" and gave that sneer to the camera, complete with a snort of disgust that her child might actually expect her to help him. It was a truly telling moment about Kate, who was too busy complaining about how she had to do all this party planning by himself because Jon chose to leave town for awhile.

Then, when she was ready to go, she threatened to leave them behind if they were not running to the van. I believe she actually might have done that in the mood she was in that day.

amanda said...

I want to know WHEN a journalist or TV news program host is going to have Kate on and confront her with all of the facts? Particularly the information regarding her income and needs that has been detailed in previous quotes on this thread. Someone needs to call her out on it! I thought Joy Behar could be the one to do it... but alas.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"Jon is OUTSIDE, Kate can only focus on the dirty fridge, and a camera crew is in the house filming the one who needs to be wiped."

Was he actually being filmed, or was it just the audio of him yelling to be wiped that was heard?

Pa Mom Knows said...

"Why not call the principals, Jon and Kate? Or even TLC? I think it is really strange that they called in two people not associated with the show.Why not call in Jon since he was alive and twittering? Why not schedule or force Kate to be there also by writ of law?"

Did you listen to the opening remarks? There was nothing strange about it. The representative wanted to hear from those who were invited because they have experience and know what needs to be written into law. Do you think Jon and Kate would have testified as to the laws broken and how the state needs to enact more laws to protect children? Heck, no! That's the last thing they would have wanted. This was not a hearing about the Jon and Kate show. The representative was quite clear about that. This was to gather information as to how to protect children in reality television, should another situation like this come up in our state. The investigation was over. There were no criminal charges filed. Writ of law? Do you mean a subpoena? For what purpose? They weren't on trial. There was no need to subpoena Jon and Kate.

Aislinn said...

Eva Chavela said...
"I don't get it. Are women not allowed to make money, work and have kids at the same time? I don't see what the problem is."

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There is no problem with Kate working. The two issues that seems to spring up are that when Kate works, there's a tendency to have the children work as well, and the other being Kate's obnxious behavior.

There was much concern over the children's loss of privacy, well-being, and lack of compensation for all the work the did on "Jon and Kate Plus 8," not to mention all the behind the scenes stuff such as long magazine shoots, interviews, and appearances. And now it seems they may be forced to work again for "Kate Plus 8."

The other problems with Kate is her mistreatment of everyone around her, her constant lies, tendency to play the victim, rudeness, and ungratefulness. All of the things she's done in the past, such as taking love offerings from churches while living in a million dollar mansion, or lying to her kids that her vow renewals meant their mommy and daddy would be together forever when daddy was living in an apartment above the garage, or...well, I could go on and on, but suffice to say, the more you learn about Kate Gosselin, the more appalled you become.

This isn't about a working mom's right to work. It's about a woman who has built a career off the backs of her own children.

nanniesarenotparents! said...

" Are women not allowed to make money, work and have kids at the same time? I don't see what the problem is."

The problem is not the she is working, or that she is away from the children...the problem is that there is (apparently) a parent(jon) that would like to provide physical care for said children because their mom is away so much...AND for whatever reason Kate would rather a nanny watch her children than their father!

I know if I was away from home four days a week, I'd want my children to be with their father NOT a NANNY.

TooManyPoopReferences said...

PA MOM KNOWS

"Was he actually being filmed, or was it just the audio of him yelling to be wiped that was heard?"

I checked this out after reading the comment. Needy child was behind partially closed door. However, cameras were on second floor following the child that was running to get Kate on first floor, as well as filming girls behaving badly in their room.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX5C7IMoEIE

TooManyPoopReferences said...

Now, if someone could save me some time . . . I would like to read again the reference to Kate's mother saying that Kate had a book about the McCaughey septuplets.

Aislinn said...

Pa Mom Knows said...
""Jon is OUTSIDE, Kate can only focus on the dirty fridge, and a camera crew is in the house filming the one who needs to be wiped."

Was he actually being filmed, or was it just the audio of him yelling to be wiped that was heard?"

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No, this was in the 4th season when they just got the new house. It seems around the time there was more critism for showing the kids on the toilet or nudity, so they toned it down.

Here's a link that hopefully works:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX5C7IMoEIE&feature=related

It was the "New House" episode at the 5-7 min mark. I'm still amazed at how Kate left the kids upstairs while she continued to clean, and I never did see any mold or mildew she kept complaining about. The refridgerator looked spotless.

And then when Jon does come inside, she talks about the refridgerator until Jon asked if that was the reason she wanted him to come inside, and then suddenly she remembers that Joel is on the toilet.

Bonnie said...

I listened to the hearing on Thursday and what I found the saddest was the story of how the kids came down to "Christmas Morning" to open presents and then were told it wasn't Christmas at all. How confusing for those kids.

Here's a novel idea TLC, how 'bout taping a freaking Christmas show on the 25th of December? Instead you confuse those poor kids.

Right up there with Kate telling those kids that she and Jon would be together forever then shortly after the renewal filing for divorce. Those poor kids must be so confused about what is real and what is television reality.

I was impressed with the senators questions and hope that the one Senator that heard about the bathroom taping and left the room to talk to the DA holds someone's feet to the fire and doesn't let this drop!

Geema said...

Oh my, where to even begin...

Talking about the hearing with my husband on the way home from dinner tonight. He was never fond of the show and hated Kate from the start... all he could muster was a comment about her bad hair!

Doesn't she know how foolish she looks? Not just the hair, which has gone from bad to worse, but everything she does makes her look foolish. Leaving the kids with nannies is just plain awful when they could be with their father, who seemed like the hands on parent when she was the "I'm working and I'm out of town parent".

The DWTS gig is beyond ridiculous! She knew she wasn't going to be good (unless she is really that full of herself) and she continues to embarass herself each week. Me? I would have ran away from the offer to be on the show.

The bodyguard? Silly, over the top, unnecessary bull****. I doubt that ABC has stars show up with personal security. She is really a non-star but shows up with hers daily!

Finally, her treatment of her brother and sister-in-law... just wrong on so many levels. Kevin and Jodi seem like really nice, loving, caring people and instead of saying nothing, like she should, she trashes them and accuses them of making a butt load of money off her and her kids when it is so clear that the state of PA probably didn't even pay for their gas.

All of these things and more just make her look more and more a fool... forget the hair, it is the least of her negatives.

Chile Please said...

We all know that even if Jon and Kate Plus 8, or Kate Plus 8, were still on the air and still in production....and they still were drawing a big fat paycheck each week...that Kate would still have chosen to participate on DWTS. She would've still chosen to be away from her kids weeks on end to do it. Married, divorced, show, or no show, she still would have chosen to head for Hollywood to do what she's doing now.

That's why I don't buy this crap that she HAS to work and HAS to do the show to feed her kids. She would've done it anyway and made Jon stay home and be Mr. Mom.

TooManyPoopReferences said...

Aislinn said... "she continued to clean, and I never did see any mold or mildew she kept complaining about. The refridgerator looked spotless."

You would surely have seen the nastiness of it all if you were as pristine as Kate.

OMG said...

Her voice and demeanor have significantly changed since the last episodes of J&K+8. On the TMZ video, she is answering questions on the street for the very first time I have seen.

She may not be practicing much with Tony, but man she is certainly doing some practicing with those TLC advisors/trainers.

Reinvention in progress.

Just Wondering said...

Is it just me or does anyone else feel $10,000 in each child's account is next to nothing? If I were Kate I would not be bragging about that amount.

PA Woman said...

Just Wondering said...
Is it just me or does anyone else feel $10,000 in each child's account is next to nothing? If I were Kate I would not be bragging about that amount.

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I consider it outrageous that she would even think that begins to cover what those children deserve. OMG, compared to what they have made!!

Sidney said...

Gerry Carlssen said...
Anyone else find it an odd coincidence that Jon and Kate had all but dropped off the tabloid/paparrazzi's radar and then all this stuff, from Kate appearing on DWTS to Jon filing a custody suit to the PA hearing and all the backlash comments suddenly lights up the media....just in advance of the release of Kate's new book and her upcoming new TV shows?

4/16/2010 8:04 AM
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I truly think this must be going on. TLC, the networks and cable have all turned completely around.

Joy Behar, Jay Leno, Baba Wawa, AJ Hammer and other hosts are all her very best friends now. The girl just ain't going away. So they have seen where Kart is, there comes the high rating.

Why are the other dancers even trying. Surely they must feel robbed.

Sobby McFibberpants said...

linnniepoo said...

Kate is just a sad, sad example of what it means to be a human being. She does not have one compassionate, caring bone in her body
8888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888Lets be fair. Kate does have one compassionate, caring bone in her body... but, IT'S HERS ALL HERS AS FAR AS HER EYES CAN SEE! For her sake, if that bone happens to be in her back, I'd keep those kids far away from any cracks they might 'step' on.

Katlee85 said...

I don't think I have ever been this angry in my life. Watching that and finding out that basically, TLC paid them off though of course they didn't say so.

The fact that the PA DOL didn't investigate the home just really makes me mad. I hope Rep Murt does get these laws passed and somebody needs to contact the FBI to look into the nudity and Collin being left, alone, with a cameraman while using the potty.

Vanessa said...

"Every single time they were VISITING my kids..." Don't you mean every single time Jodi and Kevin took your kids into their own home and treated them like their own? Every single time you went on a church scam you left your kids with them? When you left them all sick to high heaven just to get Jon's plugs? When Jodi took them in every Friday so you could get some alone time?
You lying sack of...

Vanessa said...

The sad part about all the internet "hate" sites that focus on one of the 8 in particular is that they "probably" can't be shut down. Since the 8 are "public figures", all is fair game to a certain extent. Those two "parents" are soley responsible for it. Jon, never mind one day your kids will google you, one day they'll google themselves! No doubt the older ones already have!

2badsosad said...

Just Wondering said...
Is it just me or does anyone else feel $10,000 in each child's account is next to nothing? If I were Kate I would not be bragging about that amount.

Absolutely outrageous when you consider the fact that the J & K + 8 reality show produced some 100 episodes, not to mention the children's 'work' hours of 'never seen' film footage that was excluded from actual episodes that aired. So, the Gosselin children are 'banking' LESS than $1000 each of the 100 episodes that aired.

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