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PA Woman said...

Anne said...

They had photos of Tiger Woods a couple days ago jogging and practicing and said something like "staged photo ops." I don't recall that ever being said about Kate's photos. Proves Radar is in TLC's pocket IMO.

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Carried over from the last open discussion...

Actually the tabs said that about the Woods picture because it was staged. His own photographers took the pictures and released them to the press. This really pissed off the tabloids because the lost that opportunity of having "exclusive" pictures...so they are making a point of saying the pictures are staged.

Doesn't mean Radar isn't in TLC's pocket. Just don't think you can use this as proof.

jibberjabbers said...

Kate's bus drop off was stage. Remember that one? A few days after she was seen (smacking or hushing Colin).

Don't remember any Tabloids mentioning that it was staged. I mean they even had a video camera at the location to record every detail of the forced affection/hug/kiss. etc etc.

she is evil said...

If there is a new show in the future for Kate Gosselin, what will be the premise? If the kids are involved and they proceed with a version of Kate plus the Pathetic Eight, the backlash will begin. The Gosselins (all of them) lost appeal as soon as the separation was announced. The general public realized that the entire show was complete bul. All who had been giving Kate the benefit of the doubt regarding her awful treatment of Jon and the kids realized that she was just a bitch, plain and simple, not an overworked mom doing it all with the help of her hapless husband. If TLC proceeds with a show involving just Katan, exactly what will that entail? The woman does nothing now that her reality show is over. She doesn't work, volunteer, or have hobbies. And she most certainly does not take care of her own children unless a camera has been summoned to film her. This'll be interesting to see what TLC does with that donkey of a woman, if anything. In the meantime, she can continue to "live it up" as a single mom (uh huh). God, she's pathetic.

Pony said...

PA Woman said: "I have rarely heard of that happening at least in PA, and I work with kids." - with regards to people being put in jail for non-payment of child support. Maybe things are different in the Pittsburgh area, but I know someone who got put in jail for non-payment of child support. I agree that it kind of makes no sense given that someone in jail can't earn a living, but in this particular case, the guy's parents bailed him out and he paid up. So it can happen. And I can see Kate trying to do it to Jon.

Tamara said...

I wonder which kids will allow themselves to be filmed, which will just completely shut down when they can and refuse, and which will try and sabatoge? I see Joel and Alexis going along with it well enough. Mady, Leah, Hannah, Aaden and Cara saying, eh, if we HAVE to, or if they really want to do whatever the fieldtrip is that day; Collin, Mady and Aaden putting up the most fight. BTW, this isn't a diss on Joel and Alexis, I just think they are the most outgoing and naturally easygoing of the kids. Not that they are little Khate and Jons...

Bubbles said...

Jon won't have any problem paying his child support. He's still under contract with TLC and since TLC wants to be able to film the kids, they will keep giving him money.

Essentially, the kids will be paying their own child support. Classy.

PA Woman said...

Pony said...
PA Woman said: "I have rarely heard of that happening at least in PA, and I work with kids." - with regards to people being put in jail for non-payment of child support. Maybe things are different in the Pittsburgh area, but I know someone who got put in jail for non-payment of child support. I agree that it kind of makes no sense given that someone in jail can't earn a living, but in this particular case, the guy's parents bailed him out and he paid up. So it can happen. And I can see Kate trying to do it to Jon.
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Yes, but you are citing one case. I could tell you of about 2 or 3, but when you look at the number of cases for a parent not paying child support that is less than a percent. I would not call that something that commonly happens at all. That is pretty rare. Yes, a judge will throw someone in jail if they think a few nights will cure them of paying. But I still say that is rare to happen.

Jenny said...

One really telling statement in the latest reports about K8 is that while she's on book tour, she will have the nannies be with the kids and not Jon. I remember the days when she stated that even though she & Jon have gone their separate ways, the kids still love him and she thinks it's a good thing that he spend time with them. How far she has come if she's now at a place where she won't even allow him to be with his own kids when she's out of town!

I totally get it though...I agree with the person here who mentioned (in the last open discussion) that K8 probably realizes it would reflect badly on her if photos are taken of "Jon spending time with the kids while Kate is traveling on book tour." It might make her look like the less loving parent. Oh yes...ever mindful of her image, no matter how it may hurt the kids and deprive them of spending time with their father! Got to pull all the stops out when it comes to keeping the fairy tale going. I'm pretty sure the excuse will go something like this: "Being with the nannies is best for the kids because it keeps them on their usual schedule."

I swear I'm like everyone else here...I'm getting really weary of all the Gosselin stuff. I actually feel anger whenever I read how she is being portrayed in such a positive light when we all know how mean spirited and selfish she has been to both family and friends.

pinkdiamond611 said...

All I can think of is "I've been working on the railroad. . ." :-)))
She has changed her image again from cougar to longshoreman.

Moo said...

jibberjabbers said...
Kate's bus drop off was stage. Remember that one? A few days after she was seen (smacking or hushing Colin).
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Lol of course that was staged. YOu could tell the kids were told to stay on the bus until Kate took them off to hug and kids.

PLus kate is not a good actress and the kids looked as if they were afrid to step out of line.

Moo said...

Essentially, the kids will be paying their own child support. Classy."



Child support, mortgage, gas, land tax, clothing , toys, doctors visits, food....yep these kids
are bascically supporting them selves.

BeDoneNow said...

Pony said...
PA Woman said: "I have rarely heard of that happening at least in PA, and I work with kids." - with regards to people being put in jail for non-payment of child support....
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About 15 years ago my ex was $72K behind in support for our 4 children for a period of over 17 years,and all but one were grown and on their own. The judge issued an arrest warrant for the ex, but the magistrate counseled me very gently about what this might mean to my children if I have their father put in jail. I agreed to reduce the arrearage to 12K and ex put up 10% to stay out of jail that weekend.

I am in Ohio, my ex wouldnt hold a job anyway. I would imagine that in any state, each case is based on it's own merits. A family court judge might look carefully before putting an involved father of 8 young children in jail, no matter what their mother wants. Just my own thoughts.

Jane in California said...

Sadly, I agree with PAWoman re child support deadbeats and jail (or lack of). I'm not an expert, but I've had friends who had to fight for every penny of child support, or the dad was behind by thousands of dollars. Never once did the guys get jail time. The criminal court system is too overwhelmed with what they consider higher priority cases (drugs, murders, robberies, etc.) and so someone who is behind on child support is very low on the totem pole. Not enough resources.

I don't think there was a possibility Jon would face jail time if he didn't pay support. But the poster who said that actually, it's the children who will generate the income that Jon uses to pay their "support," was right on the money.

Aunt Chris said...

Can licenses be suspended for non-payment in PA? How about passports? (not that Jon would be going anywhere without TLC filming it...) That's the case here in NY (I work in Child Support). For incarceration to be invoked, there has to be a VERY large amount owed and a blatant disregard. Also, support and visitation are two different things. She can't withhold visitation.

N.E. Psychologist said...

Jake's Mom said (referring to tlc in a previous thread): 1-Year Net Income Growth, 2008 to 2009: 76%
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Wonder how much they're donating to politicians in PA?

No work permits? No problem........
Investigation? No results......

konGOaway said...

Kate has a new man in her life?

http://www.limelife.com/blog-entry/Kate-Gosselins-New-Love-Interest/34719.html?obref=obinsite

PA Woman said...

Aunt Chris said...
Can licenses be suspended for non-payment in PA? How about passports? (not that Jon would be going anywhere without TLC filming it...) That's the case here in NY (I work in Child Support). For incarceration to be invoked, there has to be a VERY large amount owed and a blatant disregard. Also, support and visitation are two different things. She can't withhold visitation.

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Yes ti both licenses (drivers as well as professional) and passports. They can attach any bank accounts, garish pay, the usual.

And in PA I'd agree it would have to be a large amount and blatant disregard.

fidosmommy said...

There are photos up on radar online
of Jon home with the kids, playing in the snow.

First thing I noticed was Leah's hair is now as long as Hannah's. She used to have relatively short hair.

If Leah's hair is longer because that's what she chose, that's good news, IMO.

If Leah's hair is longer because it will make her look more like part of a set of 3 girls (now that their faces are becoming easier to
identify) on their new show, then I think it's a really bad idea.

No pictures of Alexis to see if she's got longer hair, too.

ErinKate said...

Oh look, Jon is back home at the paps center for the pictures. Soon he will be walking out to the fence to speak to the paps about Kate. By the way, where have the paps been all this time??? Hmmm, methinks it must be time to generate publicity for the new show. Right Jon? And Kate will be back on the View again soon, then the new book and then viola! it starts all over again. The Gosselin circus is in full swing coming soon to a TV near you.

Tami said...

Now that the TLC suit is settled and the kids were used as pawns, what would stop Jon from then saying he changed his mind again and does not want the kids filmed? If TLC tried to bring the suit back it would be clear to everyone it was all just about the kids. I wonder if he had to sign something that said neither one of the parents can just decide that they don't want the kids filmed anymore, that the other one can choose to do so anyway. That would be pathetic. I hope he didn't sign a clause like that and that he does decide to stop filming again.

LisaNH said...

konGOaway said...
Kate has a new man in her life?

http://www.limelife.com/blog-entry/Kate-Gosselins-New-Love-Interest/34719.html?obref=obinsite
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If this is true, this guy needs his head examined. He clearly has no idea what he's in for. I'm sure Khate can put the charm on to rope a guy in, then once she has him in her clutches the real Khate rears its ugly head. I picture her looking like the creature in Alien once she has a guy in her grips.

Speaking of men, what happened to ole Steve-arino? If he's all done with the "Gosselin Job" he'll probably not be able to work any type of protection details again. His reputation has no doubt been severely tarnished by his association with Khate.

Tangerine Tanya said...

fidosmommy, it looks as if rador online may have printed the names of the girl tups wrong.

After studying the pictures closely it looks to me that in picture # 5 it is Mady,Hannah and Joel. Picture # 6 Alexis,Hannah and Joel.Picture #7 Hannah and Alexis. (Look carefully at the clothing.

I may be wrong but just my observation.

In any case....BOO KATE.....

Jane in California said...

LOL - so, supposedly a successful football coach is interested in dating Kate? I notice there were no pictures shown of the two of them together. And the tone of this blurb is so catty, with the final line referring back to Jon's "small package," that I can't take it seriously at all.

If this guy is temporarily fooled by Kate, he'll soon see her true colors. Plus, he's got the choice of no doubt many attractive women, and I bet none of the others have 8 young children.

But at least this time they picked a guy for the rumor mill who isn't hairdresser or hairdresser's assistant.

Brummygirl said...

P.A. Woman said:

I agree that it kind of makes no sense given that someone in jail can't earn a living, but in this particular case, the guy's parents bailed him out and he paid up. So it can happen. And I can see Kate trying to do it to Jon.
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The end of a partnership…..To the music of Send in the Clowns! Kate’s victory song to Jon!! How long this victory will last, is anyone’s guess. Hopefully it will be short lived!!

Now we are rich
Are we a pair?
Me with the money
You with the hair
We dress like clowns

Isn’t it bliss
What a smart move
One who keeps in the news
One who can’t move
Where are the clowns
Are we the clowns

Just when I’d worked it out
You spoiled the final shout
Making my entrance again with my usual flair
Sure of my lines
You were not there

Don’t you love farce
Your fault my dear
I thought you would want what I want
Now I’ve won it is clear

Now I am rich
It is your loss
T.L.C. and I proved, that I was boss
Sorry my dear
They sent in the Clowns!!

Jenny said...

Brummygirl...excellent!!! Love your rendition of Send in the Clowns...boy does it ever fit!

Canadian Mom said...

Whatever happened with the kids *supposedly* being in counselling??

I thought Kate stated she had found a *psychologist/psychiatrist* willing to come to The Orphanage?

Because an Orphanage it will truly be (yet again) when those children's mother starts her tv appearances and book tour...

And if they are in need of counselling, is it wise for their mother to ABANDON them, yet again??

*shaking my head in the absurdity*

Gimme Gimme said...

From what I know about child support they base it on the present earnings and Jon must have made a lot of money last year; he was everywhere, not to mention the TLC money.

But the bottom line is they combine the 2 incomes and it is done straight down the line on percentages with the intent of keeping the children in the same income bracket they were accustomed to when their parents were together. The math is the same for all states. It is nonnegotiable.

They do put deadbeat dads in jail, but Jon is anything but that. These are the dads who make every effort not to pay, and there are many of them out there.

Otherwise they seize any income that you might have through the IRS, wage garnishment, pull your license, etc. They also add a tremendous amount of interest to any backpay that you might owe and you essentialy never get it paid off, unless you do so all at once.

I don't expect Jon to ever get behind in his payments. He is a great dad and will provide for his children. When all the celebrity hood is over he can go back and change it based upon what he is earning at the time. The rules apply to all; they cannot bend them at will.

Divorce is such an ugly thing. Kate is so stupid..she lived with the man for 10 years and suddenly she had an epiphany on a plane that she couldn't be married to him not one more day, not even thinking about the children being in their most formative years and what it would do to them. No wonder he thought she was cheating. The spouse knows.

Misty pig said...

Speaking of men, what happened to ole Steve-arino? If he's all done with the "Gosselin Job" he'll probably not be able to work any type of protection details again. His reputation has no doubt been severely tarnished by his association with Khate."


Well undercover work is a no- no. We all know wht he looks like.

real fame said...

If this is true, this guy needs his head examined. He clearly has no idea what he's in for
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Maybe he's looking for his 15 minutes. Haliey got hers...

moo said...

Jenny said...
One really telling statement in the latest reports about K8 is that while she's on book tour, she will have the nannies be with the kids and not Jon.
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Remember on the last tour Jon was miffed because she was the one out having a "career"
(i.e. flying around with steve and no calls unless an emergency)
while he was stuck caring for the kids.

Because Kate has somewhere to be Jon must run back immediately to cover for her. Let her figure out her own arrangements.

Jon must sacrifice his time/projects/relationships while she stays in hotel, flies with her bodyguards to book signings to receive props for her sacrificing for the kids?

Plus kate cant take care of them without help. If Jon tried to bring someone in to help him, would Kate approve?

That said, I would hope he would try and visit his kids as much as possible over their summer holidays.

SwingsandRoundabouts said...

Brummygirl, excellent! Love the song parody and now I can't get the tune out of my head.

youaintallthat said...

http://www.limelife.com/blog-entry/Kate-Gosselins-New-Love-Interest/34719.html?obref=obinsite

This guy is probably hoping if he hangs around Kate long enough she will hook him up with some 'sponsored' hair plugs!

Ohio Buckeye said...

BrummyGirl: you ROCK! I vote for your version of 'Send in the Clowns' for the new theme song for whatever tripe they come up with for Kate G. (Your theme song is much more honest than the previous, "It's a Beautiful Life!")

Really enjoy your creativity! Thanks for the :)

Ohio Buckeye said...

LisaNH said, "Kate has a new man in her life?"

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Yeah, I'm sure the men are really lining up for THEIR chance to be called out in tabloids as "Mr. Stubby" by Miss High Road Taker.

Wonder what TLC is paying this guy to Fake Date Kate?

LP said...

I've noticed that the main stream media is not picking up on the J&K news lately. The only sources are ROL (in TLC's pocket) or some of the other d list/gossip sites.

LP said...

I understand that the guy kate is "dating" has 5 kids of his own. That makes 13 - still not quite up to the Duggers but enough for a new reality show.

MickeyMcKean said...

LP said...
I've noticed that the main stream media is not picking up on the J&K news lately. The only sources are ROL (in TLC's pocket) or some of the other d list/gossip sites.

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As far as I know, and I have been watching, ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT and THE INSIDER have not announced that Jon and TLC have settled their lawsuit.

Unless someone saw an episode where they did make the announcement, IMO since Jon was on the panel for a few days of THE INSIDER, I find that this is proof that mainstream media is sick of All Things Gosselin.

Fufuss said...

Have ya seen Jon's new haircut? (Now we have the battle of the haircuts!)

Jon reverted back to his teens & 20s when the breakup occurred. I think he has regressed back to about 10 or 11 yrs old now. -Maybe he wants to date even younger girls?

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

I truly despise ROL!
It's sickening the way they pump up Khate and push down Jon.
"..the first time he had been with them in weeks..."
"And from the look on their faces the Gosselin kids are happy to have their daddy back in their lives - hopefully it will be a more regular ocurrence from now on in."
GGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

proofisinthepudding said...

http://www.limelife.com/blog-entry/Kate-Gosselins-New-Love-Interest/34719.html?obref=obinsite

Either the above is totally false OR further proof that there is absolutely no monetary ($$) value ie evidence via a REAL paparrazi photograph that Mz. Kate has taken on a 'love interest' other than herself.
Seems hard to believe that the 'paps' are stalking Kate 24/7 as she hits the tanning salon or grocery store but are less than interested/qualified in obtaining a photo of Kate and her love interest.

LP said...

What a difference in the kids' attitudes when Jon picks them up! Happy, laughing, running and having fun. They've been released from the prison (temporarily) and are loving every minute of it. The pictures are on ROL.

BTW Fufuss I don't see anything wrong with his haircut. Did I miss something?

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

Click on Amazon.com re Kate's new book. Scroll down to find the words associated with same.

You'll be surprised (or not) to view some of the descriptive terms. Please feel free to vote.

22Starz said...

The only kind of men who would show any intrest in kate are the types of men you see on shows like..I love New York...Daisy wants loves...Megan wants a millionare...ect ect.Men looking for some quick fame and their 15 minutes.
Not to lump all men into the same boat,but most men find it very hard to step into a relationship with a woman who already has kids...and 8?? Thats going to be a tough one.Men dont like raising other peoples kids.(again not saying thats all men,just most from what I have seen)
And not lets not forget kates soft spoken loving ways.I dont know any man who would be willing to step into her lair.Unless TLC works an arranged marriage into the contract,I believe kate is SOL!!

PJ's momma said...
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Jenny said...

HardToKeepLovingJon said:
I truly despise ROL!
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I know exactly what you mean. I know ROL is in TLC's pocket but it still makes my blood boil every time I see them blatantly putting lies out there that Jon's a crappy, uncaring dad...and K8 is a saintly mother.

And as someone else here has mentioned...you really do have to notice some of the people who leave comments there. You'd think that people with common sense who hear about all the controvesy surrounding her, at the very least might think to themselves, 'Hmmm, I wonder what they're seeing that I don't" and maybe do a little investigating. It's not like we're making this stuff up!

But so many newer viewers are seeing TLC's carefully crafted version of K8...and that oh so sweet photo on the book cover...so I can see how they could be fooled. They'll be the ones who help enrich the woman by adding to ratings of the show and also when they put out their hard earned money to buy her trumped up book.

Btw, that was really interesting to see the tags at Amazon. Also, I noticed that a person could buy "all 3 books" for a certain amount...which made me wonder if Jon still gets part of the proceeds of those earlier books when they get sold. I would think he should.

Anyway, the beat goes on...I know I've said it before but I'm REALLY weary of all the deception that's going on out there and seeing so many people getting fooled...and all in the name of money.

Can't See Sheep said...

Ohio Buckeye said...

LisaNH said, "Kate has a new man in her life?"

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Yeah, I'm sure the men are really lining up for THEIR chance to be called out in tabloids as "Mr. Stubby" by Miss High Road Taker.

Wonder what TLC is paying this guy to Fake Date Kate?
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I wonder that too. After all I imagine it really burnt kate's butter that she ended the marriage & Jon was out dating very quickly. Granted they weren't the best choices, but he wasn't lonely for long.

She probably fumed so much TLC decided to see who or what they could buy her. Dating kate, I wouldn't think he's much of a man, at least not for long around her. Why anyone would willingly keep company with that woman, other than for money or to get their 15 minutes, is beyond me.

To be honest, I think it's nothing more than another PR stunt. Or to get people to stop talking about kate & the boobyguard. I don't care if he has 20 degrees from top university & is a brain surgeon, if he's dating kate, he's a loser as far as I'm concerned.

Brummygirl absolutely loved your version of Send in the Clowns!

Gimme Gimme said...

It's nice to see the kids not having to line up and march and to actually see them smiling and acting like regular kids. But again ony one twin?

Vanessa said...

I see nothing wrong with Jon's haircut.
The kids aren't looking morose and zombie like, standing at attention like they do with their Mother either.
Also, notice most of Jon's pics are of him in the front driveway PLAYING with his children? I guess we won't see Khate out on her plastic throne until the snow melts, you know how she hates the cold! But I'm sure the spin will be that Katezilla is a "working" mom and wishes she had time to "play" with her kids, Jon on the other hand is the immature lazy parent without a job and of course all he does is PLAY!
And yes, the comments on ROL are so ubsurd and sooo highschool!

Reading news said...

I know I recently stated that I was through with all things Gosselin but just had to come on here today to see if anyone had mentioned the story on one of the opening pages of AOL about the new reality show Our Little Genius. It seems parents have reported that children are being fed answers. Fox is being investigated because of the allegations. I think with the onslaught of so-called reality shows these shows are going to be scrutinized and questions will be asked about how real is reality. I think the networks such as TLC will be held to much higher standards than previously used for judging the legality of these shows.

sillyrabbit said...

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...
I truly despise ROL!
It's sickening the way they pump up Khate and push down Jon.
"..the first time he had been with them in weeks..."
"And from the look on their faces the Gosselin kids are happy to have their daddy back in their lives - hopefully it will be a more regular ocurrence from now on in."
GGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Interesting thing is, none of this ROL/TLC instigated 'look who is with the kids this week' was being played out prior to the J & K divorce and Jon was allocated the role of SAHD and Kate was away from home and children months on end. IMO, the media has yet to grasp the concept that the Gosselin children are now a product of divorce and #1 daddy doesnt live there any more #2 Jon is ONLY 'visiting' per the custody agreement.
Perhaps there is a valid reason why Jon has not been to the Konpound in weeks. A reason that ROL is not prevy to.

Virginia Mom said...

I just took a look around BabyMama's site...and, wow, could she have more ads crammed into the sidebars?

So, she's an exploiter herself--how much money is she making on those ads? She definitely has a vested interest in the Gosselin kids staying on TV.

I notice there are no ads here on GWOP. Follow the dollar trail. It doesn't come to this site. It does go to hers.

The Gravy Train has quite a few cars, doesn't it? How many people, exactly, are riding it on the backs of the children?

The BM site calls GWOP a "hate" site. But what do we hate? Exploiting 8 childhoods for fun and profit. I admit it. I'm a hater. I hate that.

We need to keep pushing for laws to get children OFF reality TV. Period.

rural mom said...

The PR machine is out again, TLC is once again paying ROL to photograph Jon with the kids and now they are floating this story about Kate dating a coach, just to give hot topic questions to journalists during her book tour. It is shameful how this business works.

grannyoftwo said...

proofisinthepudding said...
http://www.limelife.com/blog-entry/Kate-Gosselins-New-Love-Interest/34719.html?obref=obinsite

this is an old photo and the man has something to do with the new Kate hairdo thingy. Nothing to get excited about here. I don't known why people can't get their stories straight before they publish pics of people. Drives me crazy and it really gives real journalism a very bad name.Do you really think any man could fall for Kate? That would take a miracle or at least a million. I don't think TLC wants to fork out that kind of dough on her.

MickeyMcKean said...

Yesterday I visited a 64 year old friend (a mother and grandmother) and I asked her if she ever watched J&K+8.

When she said yes I asked her what did she think about the show. She said she saw a couple of episodes but that was it, "the kids were loud".

Then I asked her what was her impression re Kate? She didn't seem to say much one way or another other than how she did not like how she was talking to the kids. So I asked her about Jon and her response was immediate: "he is a cheater".

Suffice it to say I felt I had a duty to enlightened my friend how I was a fan since show 1, how I got angry when they were in their new $1.2 million dollar house and Kate said "mine ... all mine" and yet wasn't there also 9 other people living there too? How I felt something was not "quite right" so I did my own investigation on the Internet and found out about all the "love offerings", nannies, cooks, perks, etc. How I also found out that this is not reality, the kids are prompted to say lines, so this is just a way to exploit children for financial gain for the parents and the network which I feel is very wrong.

I told my friend that as for Jon being a cheater, what Kate and the network does not want the public to know is that two months after the fake renewal vows in Hawaii in August, where Kate told the kids that she and Jon would be together forever, in October according to Kate's brother and sister it was Kate who gave Jon permission to have girlfriends as long as he continued to film the show. I made sure she then knew that it was not until the following February that Jon was caught with the teacher and then of course the media circus that we all saw last year. I gave her other examples of Kate's behavior - and how it is all captured on film forever - and I told her I would send her a link to this web site so she could read some of the posts in her own time including the National Enquirer article and the letter from Walt.

On a side note I told her that when I hooked up with my boyfriend over a year ago and I was flipping channels and J&K+8 was on how I was informed I was not allowed to watch "that C**t!". My friend and I just cracked up (to know him is to love him). I told her I asked my BF if he concerned I might take notes as to how to treat him? But the kicker is he is a long haul trucker and because he is not home a lot he did not have cable TV. So how did he know about Kate to the point of telling me I couldn't watch the show? I'm thinking negative air waves on the CB radio.

Anyway, I cannot tell you guys how many times my friend's mouth dropped opened when I was telling her just a few stories about Jon and Kate ... ok primarily Kate. She had NO idea. None. So if nothing else, I got one person (obviously a Sheeple but she did not know it) not to tune in to any new show with Kate in it, with or without the kids.

See I wouldn't want TLC to count her as a viewer now would I? No, of course not. The sooner all Gosselins are off the air waves because the ratings are so low will be IMO the best thing "for the kids".

SAVE THE 8!!!

Brummygirl said...

Ohio Buckey said:
Yeah, I'm sure the men are really lining up for THEIR chance to be called out in tabloids as "Mr. Stubby" by Miss High Road Taker.
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I really shouldn't drink my tea whilst I am reading this site. I nearly choked!! Ha ha ha
On the serious side, we have never touched on this with Jon and Kate, perhaps she was disillusioned regarding that part in her marriage and only used him for her ultimate gain!!!

Brummygirl said...

Can't See Sheep said:

To be honest, I think it's nothing more than another PR stunt. Or to get people to stop talking about kate & the boobyguard. I don't care if he has 20 degrees from top university & is a brain surgeon, if he's dating kate, he's a loser as far as I'm concerned.
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I agree! She is not exactly a winner in the dating department.

Brummygirl said...

Thank you posters for the kind comments on my song!! I could think of dozens to fit Kate, she is such an easy target!!! :)

Jane in California said...

I have serious doubts that Kate is dating anyone, but of all people, a macho football coach?

Remember that dumb episode with Orange County Choppers. The guys on that show knew that Kate "wore the pants" in the family -- so are we really supposed to believe that this successful football coach would choose to go out with Kate Gosselin and have everyone wondering why he wants to date a woman who "wears the pants" in the relationship?

And can you imagine the nightmare Kate would be as a step mom?

silimom said...

I agree with the poster who stated that Kate should be responsible for making sure the kids are cared for while she's out on her book tour, that Jon should not pick up the slack. That's a reality of divorce.

I think Kate's other reasoning is that if she's on the book tour and the kids are with nannies, she can point to it and say "Oh woe is me! I have to leave my precious angels with the nannies just so I can go and earn a living and take care of them. Look at the sacrifices I make for my darling children!"

It's a line she's used before on her tours. However, I think that it's going to backfire on her this time around *because* she's leaving them with the nannies and not their Dad. People are (hopefully) going to question the amount of time she's spending away from them, especially since she has primary custody and seems to have the bulk of the time split (looks like a standard 80/20 split to me - it allows her to collect more child support even if they have joint legal custody together) and are going to wonder how she can leave them in the care of strangers for so long?

Also, I don't think he will, but Jon could use this to petition the court to increase his visitation time. After all, if mom's gone, then who better to care for them? It will involve him getting a house in PA, but he should do that anyway, IMO. As I've said before, he should have his own home and the kids should come over to his house when it's his visitation time. They need to see him as their Dad, not as a guest who comes over every once in a while and stays above the garage. Having his own home would help that process. Again, JMO.

fidosmommy said...

I wonder if Bernie knows he's dating Kate.

I don't really care who Kate dates.
It's her business. But if she's out on the town for her own pleasure and leaving the kids at home with paid help in order to do all this dating, then I don't want to hear how bloody hard it is to be a single mom and how many sacrifices she makes for her children and that her children are her primary focus. Don't want to hear it.

Moms need time to themselves. I get that. There are lots of things Moms need. But my Mom always told us that she would have plenty of kid-free time when we were all grown and on our own. In the meantime, she wanted to be a
full-time Mom. She never once thought of it as a hardship on her
or stunting her happiness that she didn't have time to shop every day
or go to the beauty parlor. Mom felt her "entitlement" was being a Mom, not some kind of princess. She could have afforded to do whatever she wanted. She chose to
be a Mom, full time, every day.

When we were all raised, she went on trips, had a blast at the boutiques, and did all sorts of things just for herself. Good job, Mom. I will never, ever forget that you were there for us. And I appreciate that you never once complained about the rigors of being our parent.

bluesclues said...

Moms need time to themselves. I get that."


And Kate gets plenty of that with no job she has the house kid free 3days a week -the kids are gone all day at school...

Rose said...

Whatever happened with the kids *supposedly* being in counselling??

I thought Kate stated she had found a *psychologist/psychiatrist* willing to come to The Orphanage?
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I am wondering the same thing, Canadian Mom. It wasn't too long ago when Kate was gushing about the "lovely woman" who is coming to the house to work with the kids because they are "struggling with the loss of a parent". Because of course, supermom Kate is doing the absolute best she can and being a sensational mother, but she just can't help that the kids are coping with that other "loss". Don't worry, Kate - no need to blame yourself or, heaven forbid, the show and TLC for your children's anger, behavioral inconsistencies, insecurities, etc... That's all Daddy's fault, right?

Wow said...

Virginia Mom said...
I just took a look around BabyMama's site...and, wow, could she have more ads crammed into the sidebars?
So, she's an exploiter herself--how much money is she making on those ads? She definitely has a vested interest in the Gosselin kids staying on TV.
I notice there are no ads here on GWOP. Follow the dollar trail. It doesn't come to this site. It does go to hers.
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So all of Kate's "friends" are being paid one way or the other.

The latest and greatest said...

According to Fox411 Jon and TLC have settled their lawsuit, and the kids will once again be on television. Supposedly, their appearances and filming will be more limited. You can tell TLC really cares about the kids (said with large amounts of sarcasm).

silimom said...

Jon’s been under the radar lately since the show went off the air late last year, but it’s good to see him back in the role of doting dad.

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That line, believe it or not, came from radaronline. A relatively positive posting, all together. A definite indication the war between Jon and TLC is over? It could be, with their "Jon's back on dad duty" they will have him watch the kids while Kate's on her book tour, regardless of what Kate "feels" about it. After all, TLC owns that family. And Jon watching the kids will ultimately make Kate look better than if she ran off and left them with the nannies (not that I think Jon should have to watch them - I mean, yes, he is their father and should be the one to watch them, at the same time, I think if Kate wants to do this book tour she should have to face the consequences of that choice).

konGOaway said...

I looked at Bernie's Facebook page and some of his "favorites" are the same bars that Jon used to hang out at!!!! I wonder how that will be spun because when Jon went there, they were called sleeze bars.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Observation: only 61 Gosselin comments on a late Tuesday afternoon.

I think The Wicked Witch of Pennsylvania is MELTING...Melting....melting from the public's radar.

Thank god and about durned time.

Good riddance to all things Gosselin.

Canadian Mom said...

Welcome back Reading News!

Now that the comments have slowed down, we need you!

(and you have good input)

Jane in California said...

fidosmommy said...

I wonder if Bernie knows he's dating Kate.
* * *

LOL! I bet it was news to him.

I also liked the rest of your comment very much. I have the same attitude as your mom. I only have one child, but I know he'll be grown before I know it. Once that happens, I'll have all sorts of time to fill, and I'll take trips, get manicures, or do whatever I wish then. For now, my free time is spent mostly with him, and I happen to enjoy his company quite a bit!

Getting an afternoon to myself, or the occasional Saturday here and there - those are luxuries that help keep me sane and a make me a better mom. But mot important is just the day-to-day of being there.

Kate has never seemed to enjoy the simple day-to-day interaction with her children; all those little moments such as when your child sits with you on the couch and you listen as they tell you all about their day; or the nightly story time, your little one wriggling around at first but then falling into a lull at the sound of your voice; the little gifts, such as a pretty weed picked in the yard and presented to you, or the pictures on the fridge. Kate has made sure that she doesn't have to deal with the children much. Full time nannies, countless helpers, not to mention a SAHD for awhile. She doesn't enjoy the actual mom part of her life -- just the perks that come from the income her 8 children generate for her.

jibberjabbers said...

silimom said...

Jon’s been under the radar lately since the show went off the air late last year, but it’s good to see him back in the role of doting dad.

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I thought that was a slam at Jon for not being with the kids for months on end.

Ohio Buckeye said...

BrummyGirl said, "Ohio Buckeye said:
Yeah, I'm sure the men are really lining up for THEIR chance to be called out in tabloids as "Mr. Stubby" by Miss High Road Taker.
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I really shouldn't drink my tea whilst I am reading this site. I nearly choked!! Ha ha ha
On the serious side, we have never touched on this with Jon and Kate, perhaps she was disillusioned regarding that part in her marriage..."
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After watching seasons of K8 whitting away at Jon's manhood (not to mention self esteem), is it any wonder all that's left of Jon's maleness is a mere 'stub'?

Even a California Redwood would wither and shrink to toothpick size if locked in close quarters for 10 yrs with the likes of K8 Gosselin.

Brummy, I think there are some lyrics about this phenomenon, just waiting for you to string together in your usual creative, funny, and insightful way......

silimom said...

Jibber Jabbers - After rereading it (and their other Jon posting) I have to agree, it is a slam.

Thanks for pointing that out. :-)

Bonnie said...

OK, maybe I missed the announcement and if so, please feel free to delete but what happened to the pics of KG?

Mona said...

Whoa! Bernie Nowotarski may have run into Kate at Starbucks one afternoon, stopped at her table for a 2 minute chat. Because they have been seen together somewhere, suddenly there is talk of him taking on 8 children! Good grief! It's way too early to making any kind of assumptions about where this is going, if anywhere.

The same could be said for Jon. He has been playing the field, falling into infatuation, and the relationships have gone nowhere but downhill.

Momof2 said...

LOL...come on people...he is the next "star" in this charade.....now the show CAN be filmed about Kate trying to date and juggle all the motherly things that she supposedly does. Perfect timing ya think? What a FARCE.

fidosmommy said...

Momof2 said...
LOL...come on people...he is the next "star" in this charade.....now the show CAN be filmed about Kate trying to date and juggle all the motherly things that she supposedly does. Perfect timing ya think? What a FARCE.

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So, what we are seeing here is a
TV remake of "Yours, Mine and Ours"? - mother of many gets involved with father of many, and tune in to see the chaos? And that Bernie has passed the audition to be Kate's current love interest on a TLC show?

Hmmm. Interesting theory. We'll have to wait and see how this turns out.

Annies said...

Get real.. Kate would never date a guy whose occupation was a coach of a D listed indoor football team who makes a lowly salary. Her sites are higher than that.

Last I saw, the attendance at their games was poor.

she is evil said...

Run, Bernie, run!!

Momof2 said...

fidosmommy said...

Momof2 said...
LOL...come on people...he is the next "star" in this charade.....now the show CAN be filmed about Kate trying to date and juggle all the motherly things that she supposedly does. Perfect timing ya think? What a FARCE.

******

So, what we are seeing here is a
TV remake of "Yours, Mine and Ours"? - mother of many gets involved with father of many, and tune in to see the chaos? And that Bernie has passed the audition to be Kate's current love interest on a TLC show?

Hmmm. Interesting theory. We'll have to wait and see how this turns out.
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...and for some reason the "Brady Bunch" jingle keeps playing over and over in my head.....

Kate's an idiot said...

Interesting theory that TLC has cast this poor Bernie guy to be her new costar. I'm sure they'd love to have control over everyone on that show and let's face it, Kate is going to have a hard time finding a rich guy with integrity (why would that be a plus for her?) who is willing to go ball-less. But I wonder if this guy, if he is actually dating that stub-inducing idiot, would humiliate himself and his kids by appearing on the Gosselin show. The only thing more nauseating than watching Kate castrating Jon in slow motion would be watching her giggle, cackle, and talk in her baby voice with her next victim. Please just get this show cancelled already.

Can't See Sheep said...

Momof2 said...

fidosmommy said...
So, what we are seeing here is a
TV remake of "Yours, Mine and Ours"? - mother of many gets involved with father of many, and tune in to see the chaos? And that Bernie has passed the audition to be Kate's current love interest on a TLC show?

Hmmm. Interesting theory. We'll have to wait and see how this turns out.
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...and for some reason the "Brady Bunch" jingle keeps playing over and over in my head.....
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TLC is so painfully transparent. I agree with the others, I wonder if Bernie knows or will the poor man be the last to find out. What a horror! Imagine getting that call, yikes! I pity Bernie's kids if they have to deal with her. katie needs to wake up & see that everyone in her life is bought & paid for. How long until TLC finds themselves having to pay the 8 directly so they'll stay around kate.

Can't See Sheep said...

Ohio Buckeye said...
After watching seasons of K8 whitting away at Jon's manhood (not to mention self esteem), is it any wonder all that's left of Jon's maleness is a mere 'stub'?

Even a California Redwood would wither and shrink to toothpick size if locked in close quarters for 10 yrs with the likes of K8 Gosselin.

Brummy, I think there are some lyrics about this phenomenon, just waiting for you to string together in your usual creative, funny, and insightful way......
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ROFLMAO!!! I agree so much. kate's withering glance & cutting tone. Why on earth a man would want to put himself through that I have no idea, unless he was terribly greedy & desperately wanted his 15 minutes. I wouldn't trust that kind of person around my children, not for all the tea in China, which would probably just end up on my monitor when perusing this site. :) Oh yes, Brummy, this would be grand, your "Send in the Clowns" was terrific! Go Brummy!!!

OzNTM said...

I see Dr Lillian Glass is on The Insider analysing Rosalyn Pappas of The Bachelor, and doing so face to face as well (confronting her) about whether or not she lied about having a relationship with a producer - I wish she'd get to confront and analyse Kate on The Insider as well, would love to see that!!

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/

Gimme Gimme said...

Where are the real men these days, what happened to the brotherhood of men for men? Why hasn't there been a backlash on Jon's behalf about what she did to him adding credence to clains of jilted lovers who would still be with him today if they had their choice?

I myself find it appalling that a mother would do that and it sickens me. Whatever sympathy I had for her went out the window with that one.

And if they are planning a show that will be mostly Kate cackling and carrying on trying to drown out horrifying death screams from neglected kids in the background like before who on earth would watch that?

lifeoriley said...

Is this Bernie guy divorced? There was a recent video of him and his wife wishing everyone happy holidays--don't know if it was from this past season or the year before, though.
I think this is a PR stunt--I just can't imagine Kate wanting a guy who can do nothing for her fame or career, doesn't make a ton of money, and comes with five children and an ex-wife.
The only way I can see it is if it is for a show only--they pretend to be "dating" and the "reality" show focuses on the struggles of dating when both parties have exes and children.

team 8 said...

According to other blog spots they have been "seeing" each other since last Nov. I was wondering.. the youtube is 1 year ago and he is with his wife, opps, how old are these 5 kids, if he is in his late 40's he could have kids old enough to say "no way jose", besides any mother that would let her kids get involved with the "jon plus kate plus bernie plus 13 should have her head examined.
tried to find a bio that told how many times he had been married, couldn't find that either

Gimme Gimme said...

If they have been seeing each other since November, where was he and his family at Christmas and Thanksgiving, when she had the hired help drag their families over? Or did he just recently get divorced...hummm.

Maybe that is where she disappeared to when she supposedly left the kids at home and went to see her "parents." I just never believed that story.

Jane in California said...

Another reason why I think this supposed new football coach boyfriend of Kate's is either just a PR fabrication, or a ploy by both Kate and the coach to get attention and somehow translate that into money, is that the more people you bring into Kate's toxic world, the greater the chances for the truth to leak out even more.

Imagine bringing this man, plus his five kids, plus his ex-wife (if they are indeed divorced) into the mix. Imagine the ex wife sharing details of what really goes on behind Kate's facade. Imagine this guy's kids telling their friends, who tell their parents, who tell their friends, etc.

Kate has cut most people out of her life besides paid employees and of course, her unpaid laborers (the kids). Jon is still under contract to TLC and has a gag order. Her hairstylist is a TLC employee.

Now, if we hear that TLC is developing a show about a small time football coach and his team -- then we'll know this is all just a network tie in.

Proudgrandma said...

maggie said... (some deletions to save space)
Has Kate ever asked the photographers that show up at the bus stop (or Target, etc.) NOT to do so. No she hasn't. Because if she did, she would have mentioned it. And I think the photographers would respect the kids and the other busload of kids and NOT show up.
....... Of course she hasn't, instead, she or her "people" have called the Photographers ahead of time to give them a heads up for a photo op.
And if she had told them to leave the kids alone, believe me we would have heard it in great gulping sobs of "I am trying, oh I am trying, I am doing it for my kids, they need to be protected from those predators"

cows said...

Man i hope the kids kids go back on tv... when they are all 14 -16 yrs old.
I would love to see kate handle all these kids then.

Those dvds of seasons of their lives and all those interviews with lies or too much info about a child is going to come back to haunt her.

Momof2 said...

I think Nadya was nervous.....yea, the laugh was grating but I think she's been under the microscope for so long she had a lot to say and knew her time was limited.

Kate...is coached via an earpiece via TLC...so even though she seems a bit calmer...she is not speaking for herself...only what she is programmed to say. LIES.

1shortforkate said...

"Posted By Bernies Classmate (8 days ago)
Bernie's early 40s?? Hahahahahahah!!!!!!!! I went to high school at Exeter with Bernie - he's 49 soon to be 50!!!!! He graduated in 1978!!! DO THE MATH!!!!"

http://www.limelife.com/gallery.html?s=34719&ss=323&p=0

Hey, if this is true..I am the same age as this coach. I can tell you that my children are 24 years old in March, 22 y.o., and a 20 year old. So his kids must be grown unless he started a 2nd family, then he would have younger kids.
I followed some of the twitter/facebook links and that picture is not current either of the BF. He looks almost 50. If true, Kate has gotten herself into a messy situation if the man was married a year ago. I'd love to know the back story on that.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Nowotarski? So, will K8's fetish for being Asian now morph into a love of all things Polish?

Are we going to have to suffer through yet another bogus cook book, this time with Polish sausage, paprikash, and strudel? Oh, and, of course, the requisite bible verses interspersed for good measure.

A man genuinely interested in partnering up with Kate Gosselin? I'm not buying it. No matter WHAT ethnicity TLC comes up with next. I'm guessing even extra terrestrials would shy away from Planet Earth's Queen of Mean.

silimom said...

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/jon-and-kate-plus-8/jon-gosselins-financial-situat-34819.aspx

Fox411 News has apparently been talking to Jon's friends and has details of the TLC settlement. No big surprises. Take it for what it's worth.

meep said...

Followed the link.
We all pretty much guessed what was written there.
Jon lets the kids film, he gets paid something and tlc drops law suit and Kate is happy again.
Kids not going to be focus of show..

MickeyMcKean said...

Momof2 said...
Kate...is coached via an earpiece via TLC...so even though she seems a bit calmer...she is not speaking for herself...only what she is programmed to say. LIES.

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Do you remember the video where the hairstylist had to really coach Kate so that she would allow him to cut her bangs during the makeover?

I think her relunctance was because she knows how easy it was to hide an earpiece with the bangs.

With this new hairstyle, I think she already knows it is not going to be so easy, so I am willing to bet that she will fuss with her hair more because she will think that the earpiece is showing LOL

IMO I think things could get really interesting if just one person were to ask her some questions that she cannot answer all by herself. If she starts figiting, she will be busted with the earpiece ... again.

Ohio Buckeye said...

"Yours, Mine, & Ours"??

K8 Gosselin would bring a whole new dimension to the term 'evil stepmother'.

Can you imagine anyone ELSE's kids tolerating being criticized and controlled as K8 has done to her own children?

Midnight Serenade said...

"I'm guessing even extra terrestrials would shy away from Planet Earth's Queen of Mean."

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...or whisk her away for experimentation! She'd have to take her pink cell phone along, though, so she could PHONE HOME! Oh, wait a minute, she doesn't make phone calls home when she's out of town. I wonder if that includes traveling to another universe.

2badsosad said...

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/jon-and-kate-plus-8/jon-gosselins-financial-situat-34819.aspx

Fox411 News has apparently been talking to Jon's friends and has details of the TLC settlement. No big surprises. Take it for what it's worth.

The article claims, this time there will be no EXPLOITATION, the Gosselin children will be filmed less. Jon uses his children as the collateral to pay off his debt with TLC and Kate uses her children to continue a lifestyle she would not and could not otherwise afford, TLC OWNS the entire Gosselin family as the terms and conditions to further their own agenda. IMO, EXPLOITATION applies to all the above!

AmazonTagger said...

If you scroll down on the Amazon listing, you'll find a list of tags that you can apply to Kate's new book. When I scrolled, the leading ones included "exploitation, narcissistic behavior, need child labor laws" etc, etc.

Check it out, tag the book!

she is evil said...

Re: yours, mine, and ours. How about Kate letting all 13 kids decorate cupcakes (on camera, of course) and only feeding them to her kids, or his, or just the girls, or just the bo.. or just the girls. Someone else's children might do what should have been done long ago: snatch Kate baldheaded. Bernie's kids could sell their handfuls of Katan's extensions on ebay. Heh heh.

kate's a manly idiot said...

Bernie looks creepy and strong. Maybe there is karma...

Can't See Sheep said...

2badsosad said...
Jon uses his children as the collateral to pay off his debt with TLC and Kate uses her children to continue a lifestyle she would not and could not otherwise afford, TLC OWNS the entire Gosselin family as the terms and conditions to further their own agenda. IMO, EXPLOITATION applies to all the above!
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Are we going to have to listen to idiot kate freaking out every time her show is cancelled in the future? That could be many times given how TV works these days. I don't think it matters how it happens, that woman is not going to go quietly & without a fight. Even more embarrassment for the kids.

I want to see how well she does with the 8 when they're teenagers. My bet is they're going to walk all over her & do as they please, much like she's done to others, after all she's chased all the good adult examples away that they could have as role models. How many shows is TLC going to create for this witch & why, I'd think it'd be time for a new flavour in town, to put their cash & energy elsewhere or are they worried about having to train someone or that they won't get anyone as dense as kate? So many questions.

How much do they have to make to keep a show on the air? At what point would the money no longer be worth it for them to keep filming kate? Is it still worth it if they only make 5 million a year off of her? Does anyone have any ideas on this? I'm guessing this is the point, once it's no longer going to be profitable for them, that's when they'll stop filming kate & not a minute before.

This is such bad news for the kids, we all know kate will try to have them filmed more than they should, she isn't suddenly going to have morals out of the blue like that.

Pamom said...

ok, so we haven't seen Kate for almost a week...where is she? On Monday they announce the DWTS cast. Just wondering if maybe she could be there doing photo ops. Don't be surprise if she is part of the cast. It would be a perfect "book tour" don't you think?

Vanessa said...

OH. MY. GOD. Been Katezilla free for sometime but couldn't turn away. The Chopper episode was on this morning. They are not doing themselves any favours by showing that freaking b%$#@. The screaming, the attempt at flirting, the insulting jabs at Mikey, the mini skirts, the gum chewing, THAT CACKLE, the interview chair, the added voice overs that sound like one of my kids in play...you really can tell how much Jon DID NOT WANT TO BE NEAR HER! UGH!!

Vanessa said...

"Yours, Mine and Ours" could it get any MORE dysfuntional?
Just keep pulling the rug out from
under those kids time and time again, kids strive on dramatic upheavals in their lives donchaknow!

cossysmom said...

regarding Kate on her upcoming appearance on The View: Whoopie and Joy were pretty clear in their dislike of the Jersey Shore "cast" and several other guests lately. Do you think their attitude will be different with Kate this time? Or, since she will be a guest host and not a guest, do you think they will need to keep their "attitude" in check?

WhoDidWhatFirst said...

On AOL this morning, this article by Chris Harnock caught my eye:

Name: Kate Gosselin
Occupation: Reality star, author
Ready to dance? When asked about future reality TV projects, Kate made it known on 'The Jay Leno' show that she'd like to kick it with 'The Stars.' "Yes, 'Dancing with the Stars' because I cannot dance," she said. "I want to laugh at myself. I so cannot dance. It would be a sad sight." Kate is no stranger to seeking the spotlight, but hasn't the public reached Gosselin saturation? 'DWTS' is known for rebooting careers, the keyword being careers, so this one seems unlikely. [ET Online]

Sounds like someone else has Kate's number. LOL.

Barbara in VA said...

Up early with a little one this morning, about 5:30 a.m., and was flipping through channels on the TV. Lo and behold, there was J&K grinning like the idiots they are and what did I hear, "It may be a crazy life, but it's R life".

So now TLC is running the show? This looked from the beginning like a fairly new one because I noticed before I could get to the remote control that Maddie was sitting in the orthodontist's chair w/ her braces on.

Have they always shown these? I thought they were off the air.

Not Watching TLC said...

Another way to help, is go to Amazon.com and on the book reviews for Multiple Blessings, vote that the negative (one star reviews) "helped". When you vote on a review it gives more points to that reviewer and the comment itself.

Reviews also determines what Amazon markets on it's home pages and links etc... (I have several published authors and so know this).

When the cookbook starts getting reviews I'll go back and vote there too.

konspiracytheory said...

2badsosad said:

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/jon-and-kate-plus-8/jon-gosselins-financial-situat-34819.aspx

Fox411 News has apparently been talking to Jon's friends and has details of the TLC settlement. No big surprises. Take it for what it's worth.

The article claims, this time there will be no EXPLOITATION, the Gosselin children will be filmed less. Jon uses his children as the collateral to pay off his debt with TLC and Kate uses her children to continue a lifestyle she would not and could not otherwise afford, TLC OWNS the entire Gosselin family as the terms and conditions to further their own agenda. IMO, EXPLOITATION applies to all the above!
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2badsosad, you have perfectly summed up this situation (right down to your screen name). It is simply unbelievable that children can be bought and sold in such a manner.

Midnight Serenade said...

"The article claims, this time there will be no EXPLOITATION, the Gosselin children will be filmed less."

But wasn't that the point of the whole J&K + 8 fiasco...the CHILDREN? He's not going to be filmed, the children will be filmed less. What's left? Kate in a solo act? Heck, the ratings were down when the children were filmed. Does TLC actually expect this to be successful?
Why are they grasping at straws here?

Sharon said...

She's back, but hopefully not for long :o))


Name: Kate Gosselin
Occupation: Reality star, author
Ready to dance? When asked about future reality TV projects, Kate made it known on 'The Jay Leno' show that she'd like to kick it with 'The Stars.' "Yes, 'Dancing with the Stars' because I cannot dance," she said. "I want to laugh at myself. I so cannot dance. It would be a sad sight." Kate is no stranger to seeking the spotlight, but hasn't the public reached Gosselin saturation? 'DWTS' is known for rebooting careers, the keyword being careers, so this one seems unlikely. [ET Online]

Vanessa said...

Those View chicks had better question Kate's reasons for HER decision to implant 7 embryos JUST like they are lambasting Octomom today!
I can't believe it! Barbara, you dimwit, you had better see your hyprocosy! If they coddle her again when she's on, I, I,...I DON'T GET IT!!

WorkerBee said...

I'm sure that all of the freaks at BM's site and also ROL are getting their fingers ready to dial in and vote for Kate if she is part of DWTS this season.

konGOaway said...

I had my TV on this morning and came into the room as The View came on. You could see they were all sitting there waiting to pounce on the Octomom visit yesterday. They each took their turn making snide remarks about her, her laugh, her decision to implant so many embrios, her inability to financially support them, and her need to collect public assistance to support them. They also went into how she has to do TV appearances, gossip magazine covers and ROL to get income!!! Not a word about Kate was mentioned. And Sherri kept making rude comments about Octomom's laugh and was trying to immitate it for laughts. I hope they have the same questions about having so many kids when Kate comes on again. What hypocrites!!!

Jane in California said...

I have watched DWTS since it's very first show, very first season. The last couple of seasons have been a little "meh" for me, because some of the celebs that they've chosen, like Kim Kardashian or Tom DeLay (now that was some truly gross gyrations!), but I've always tuned in.

If they have Kate on, I won't tune in until she is booted. That's the line in the sand. Any show that has her on it - I won't watch.

I think the producers are hopefully smart enough to realize she wouldn't bring anything to their show, plus take note that she's been the kiss of death for most everything she's touched. Paula Deen show? Seems to have dropped out of consideration. Orange County Choppers - canceled. Her own show - ruined by her own poor behavior.

Jay Leno's short-lived 10:00 slot also suffered the touch of doom from Kate.

The View is really risking alienation of viewers by having her back. Good thing Joy and Sherry have other projects in the works, just in case she takes them all down too!

And not just shows -- that stylist who did her two weaves didn't do himself any favors either.

Laurie said...

Actually, I think that if she were to be on DWTS it might bring her down a notch or two. Those judges don't mess around and if she does a crap job they will let her know and won't kiss her a$$. Bigger "stars" than kate have been put in their place. Also, to be on the show you've got to agree to be in LA for "X" amount of time while filming. For someone who hates to be away from her kids she'd be gone for quite a chunk of time between the book tour and DWTS.

Proudgrandma said...

Just watching the View today (Thursday Feb 25th) and missed Nadia yesterday, thank goodness. However the ladies of the View were making "comments" about Nadia and mainly her laugh, but they were none too complimentary about her and her lifestyle. Now if they could only get up the guts to be honest about what they think about KHate. That is a show I would watch, and record for further watching.

kate is a cocky bitch said...

Not Watching TLC, I agree that people should vote that the truthful reviews (i.e. negative ones of Queen Kate's book) are helpful. But votes in now way determine how Amazon markets items on it's homepage. The home page is set up based on a visitors browsing/buying history. Many items that have a very poor rating actually sell very well and even though we all know that Kate doesn't write her books and they are about as interesting as a bag of broken glass there is apparently a audience out there for them.

She's...um...RUINED said...

I know how most of you are upset about how these children have been exploited their whole lives, even since before they were born.

Kate is not going away--like her or hate her, the pr machine does not care....as long as you talk about her, watch her, that is all that counts. I am sure she has a few fans that will belly up to the trough and buy her merchandise, and give her respectable numbers for whatever show she is on.

There is no stopping her. She will only go away when the public tires of her, quits writing about her, and quits watching her.

I know that all of you are frustrated, I am as well. But, the best thing for everyone to do is not watch her, don't buy the products she sells and/or endorses (or those that endorse her).

Channel that frustration into something positive in YOUR community....drive for meals on wheels, donate some books to your local library, help your elderly neighbors, to name a few. Donate money to your local food pantry. If you can't donate money, donate your time in your community! It will make you feel better.

We may not be able to 'help' the gosselin kids directly (heck, the PA labor board is turning a blind eye), but we can help the needy in OUR communities..

As for her shows? I don't own her videos, I don't watch her specials, I will not watch her on whatever show she appears on...I don't watch the View, I don't watch DWTS, and I won't watch just to see her.


I really feel for the kids, but it looks like they are going to be filmed for the rest of their lives. That's sad. It does not speak well for the viewing public, that we find enjoyment in watching children 'work' for our entertainment. And as for the people that can't wait to get the kids back on tv? Shame on you, you are so selfish, you would rather serve your entertainment needs than let those kids be normal--how would you like your kids poop on national tv?

She's ..um..RUINED said...

Barbara in VA said...

Up early with a little one this morning, about 5:30 a.m., and was flipping through channels on the TV. Lo and behold, there was J&K grinning like the idiots they are and what did I hear, "It may be a crazy life, but it's R life".

So now TLC is running the show? This looked from the beginning like a fairly new one because I noticed before I could get to the remote control that Maddie was sitting in the orthodontist's chair w/ her braces on.

Have they always shown these? I thought they were off the air.
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I noticed that a few weeks back when I was flipping channels early in the morning...and no, I did not watch. I don't watch that channel.

I understand that the Discovery channel is somehow tied into TLC. I do watch a few shoes on that channel...dirty jobs, hoarders to name two.

eileen said...

Excellent post..."Um..Ruined"... agree we must live our own lives by doing the *right* thing and, maybe, by example, we can influence others postively...great ideas, too, on ways to contribute ...

Fufuss said...

K8 is dreaming if she even thinks she could be on DWTS.Just because she can't dance & she thinks it would be funny? Oh yeah,funny!

K8 is wore out after "caring" for her 8 (count'em 8) kids. Also, remember, on a number of episodes she remarked how she can't/wouldn't skate or ski or bicycle or whatever...because she might hurt something & it would put her out of commission & unable to care for the kids(apparently she thought she was irreplaceable then..not now,the nannies are there).
K8 apparently hasn't seen much DWTS.-Does she really think that the 4 weeks before the show airs is hour long dance lessons? Oh no,dear K8...they are marathon dance lessons every day (& you won't be home for weeks).-Has she seen how many injuries have been suffered by the dance participants? Oh my,K8 would be out of commission...& she'd probably break a nail or 2.--And, those dance instructors don't think the training is a joke...they might make K8 cry (AGAIN...yet...still).

K8 couldn't make it through the first week...so I don't worry about having to forego watching DWTS.

kate_in_cali said...

My brother works for a big and well known theme park/ studio in Los Angeles. Because of where he is and what he is and what he does he has lots of connections to other studios and what is going on and fun behind the scenes kinds of stuff. He texed me last night " Sharon Stone to star as Kate Gosselin on film". I texted back "what?!?! what do you mean?!?". He wrote back that there is a script about the Gosselin saga being worked on and that they are trying to secure actors for the leads in a movie. As in people paying for tickets to go see that hot mess. He also filled me in that Dean Cain is tapped to be Jon. I wrote back I though it was ridiculous. Who knows if any of it will come to fruition - but it is interesting to think that something like that could be in the works. I will say that since he is in PR, my bro predicted KG's course of action (down to the extentions)pre-divorce. When her People cover with the extentions came out, he messaged me "I told you so". So sad.

Ladylou said...

To Barbara In VA:

The older shows of J&K plus 8 air here in Michigan around 6:00 a.m.
They have been on a few months. They show only an hour worth every day at that early time slot.

I believe Kate has been paid all along by TLC. They didn't want to lose her to another station so they have probably always signed a paycheck to her even when they weren't allowed to film at the house.

She wouldn't be with TLC's hair stylist on her own decision... she is being bought and paid for same as always... her & TLC just waiting for the opportunity for her new show to begin or to be able to film the children.

They all had Jon by his you know what's and he really was up against a giant in TLC and his
ugly night mare where his ex-wife gone wild is concerned.

silimom said...

In other Gosselin news, Hailey Glassman is now claiming that Jon owes her $200,000 not the $80-90K she originally claimed and has the paperwork to prove it. She also is threatening to take him to court if he doesn't pay her.

First off, Hailey, your own actions and behaviors tend to make you a less than credible witness. Secondly, unless you have a contract signed by you and Jon in which he agreed to pay you back for any money you spent, you're going to have to chalk this up to a learning experience and move on. I have given money to several people over my life. I never loan it. If someone pays me back, wonderful, but I don't expect them too. I can "prove" that I've given people money as well. But I don't believe any court in the land would hold them accountable unless we had an agreement.

Hailey, I hope you grow up soon. And I have to say, if you are any example of what overindulgent, neglectful parenting can do, I truly fear for the Gosselin 8.

But Kate doesn't. I'm sure she's envisioning a "Keeping up with the Gosselins" when the kids hit their teens. And, just like TLC aired the disintegration of their marriage, we will be subjected to the disintegration and ruin of 8 human beings.

Get it right.... said...

Those View chicks had better question Kate's reasons for HER decision to implant 7 embryos JUST like they are lambasting Octomom today!
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Okay, for the millionth time, Kate did not have embryos implanted. She did IUI, which is completely different than what Nadaya did.

Canadian Mom said...

Sadly, after Octomom's *bizarre* behaviour on The View, Kate will look -somewhat- sane....

Bubbles said...

Barbara in VA, to answer your question: they stopped filming but they did not stop showing episodes that had already been filmed.

I even saw a commercial on TLC last night, something about closet organization, that featured Kate talking and showed footage of some of the little kids running around. They were younger so it was old footage. I wasn't paying close attention so I don't get what the point of the commercial was, but I think it said something like "keep watching TLC for more tips on organizing your life" or something like that.

We've seen Kate "organize" the twins' room by throwing things down the stairs, and seen her "organize" her basement only with the help of professionals...so why are they promoting her as some organization expert?! Stupid.

Not Watching TLC said...

kate is cocky said
But votes in now way determine how Amazon markets items on it's homepage.

**** just saying that I have had 3 PUBLISHED authors (far well known then Kate G.) tell me that the voting does effect promotion of their book.

This is why some authors can become vindicative against negative comment posters and line up their fans to attack them. I know this from an incident of one author who was so angry that she came over to another authors Amazon.com posting and it ended up in a huge flame war that got both authors' agents involved.

Believe it or not - this is imply what I know from two major science fiction authors, and a major romance author (who have sold far more then Kate G)...

N.E. Psychologist said...

She's..um..RUINED and Barbara in VA

Discovery OWNS the Licentious channel (and animal planet and the military channel and a bunch of others).
In doing my morning news cruise it seems that JK8 is being shown at 6 am EST at least a couple of mornings a week.
tlc owns the tapes and can do whatever they want with them. (No residuals to anyone).
Oh, and as has has been mentioned, they own the family too.

she IS evil said...

Here's a question katan can answer in her new book: Did she ever really love those kids? You know, like a normal mother does, not like a lion tamer cares for his lion. It seems she cares for them in the detached way one would a show pony, where the pony is sold or put out to pasture if it doesn't win competitions or produce babies to sell. Kate actually treats those kids with less affection than the average owner or trainer would. She sees them as a meal ticket and source of attention. It's just so sad

Midnight Serenade said...

"If Kate can't hide her earpiece with the new hairstyle, will she resort to writing on her hand, like another bimbo recently had to do? LOL..."

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Or she could read from a teleprompter, like another politician does when he speaks to children in a classroom. LOL...

jibberjabbers said...

Hailey claims to be moving on with her life, yet she talks about Jon every damn day. Ever since the breakup. She's been tweeting about him, giving interviews about him, etc etc.

The only one who seemed to move on is Jon.

The $200,000 Hailey is asking for. Seems like a nice even amount. Maybe a number she made up out of thin air to pay off her lawyer and to pocket the rest.

I'm surprised she didn't strip down to her panties while giving that statement to kaydaronline.

jibberjabbers said...

How to properly hold your child.

Jon vs Kate vs Monkeys

Ohio Buckeye said...

@SheIsEvil: IMO K8 loves her kids, but in a typically narcissistic way.

Everyone has a unique capacity/depth of love to offer. Some are able to empathize and selflessly love with great breadth and depth.

Not so much with narcissists. Their elevator just does not reach that floor. Sadly, they rarely realize their own lack of depth and continue to see themselves as superior to those around them.

When loved by a narcissist, the best that can honestly be said is that you were loved as much as that person is capable of loving.

Despite all the bravado about 'making so many sacrifices and they were all worth it for you,' truth is, narcissists rarely do anything that is not self serving. Ironically, though, they genuinely believe they put others first.

Not the emotionally healthiest types on the planet, narcissists, and they rain a fair amount of pain on those nearest them.

And on that note, best wishes to the Gosselin 8. You guys kinda got gyped in the mom lottery.

chillywilly said...

We've seen Kate "organize" the twins' room by throwing things down the stairs,

Recently,there was a re run of the episode where Kate 'cleans' the kid's rooms. She goes on and on about how messy the kid's rooms were and how 'it is against the LAW' to film in the children's bedroom. Question is? When did this 'law' originate because IIRC, TLC was in violation of this so referenced 'law' the filming of Seasons 1 , 2, 3, etc. until
the Gosselins move to the 'new house'. Not only did TLC FILM in the children's bedroom but also installed industrial lighting and HIDDEN cameras as well.

Ohio Buckeye said...

@Bubbles: ...so why are they promoting her as some organization expert?! Stupid."

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'Cause K8's Got Nuthin'. Zero talent. She doesn't even qualify as a One Trick Pony.

Let TLC continue to spend bucks to promote her - many with actual talent have not lasted, so K8 has no real chance of longevity.

Wait! Was that TLC's toilet being flushed? There goes the Gosselin promo bucks, circling the bowl.....

Ohio Buckeye said...

Canadian Mom said, "Sadly, after Octomom's *bizarre* behaviour on The View, Kate will look -somewhat- sane...."

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Yep, K8 might look like The Sanest One in CrazyTown, but some claim to fame!!! LOL!

Sad when the best that can be said is that you seem slightly less crazy than OctoMom.

Moo said...

Get it right.... said...
Those View chicks had better question Kate's reasons for HER decision to implant 7 embryos JUST like they are lambasting Octomom today!
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Okay, for the millionth time, Kate did not have embryos implanted. She did IUI, which is completely different than what Nadaya did.


__________________
You are correct fellow blogger "get it right".
I would like the View ladies to ask Kate why, if there 7 eggs ( or more,who knows?) inside of her did they procced with insemination...

GoPoshGo said...

Not Watching TLC said...
When the cookbook starts getting reviews I'll go back and vote there too.

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I'm pretty certain that, unless you speak Swahili or Hindi, this will be entirely unnecessary.

The Big Wooden Spoon said...

she IS evil said...
-snipped- Kate actually treats those kids with less affection than the average owner or trainer would. She sees them as a meal ticket and source of attention. It's just so sad

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I have never ever ever seen Kate actually hug those kids. I mean the scoop-them-up-in-your-arms kind of hug that real mothers do. When Kate "hugs" a kid, she bends at the waist, keeps her body back, and has as little contact as possible. So fake and so sad.

Gimme Gimme said...

Can you imagine what Mommie Dearest would be like if she was off the TLC chain? When she goes for those appearances she has handlers who tell her how to dress, what to say, how to walk, talk, where and when to go and wears an earpiece for good measure.

She also travels with a huge TLC entourage who lays down the law before she goes out so there will be no surprises when KG does the View. Someone said that was why she got PO'd on the Today Show and cussed everybody out, because they wanted to show footage of the size of her entourage.

Nadya does not have any of that and it shows. She was fresh meat for the kill but still by their own admission came across as fascinating.

Brummygirl said...

Re Dancing With the Stars. I checked the spoiler sites and nowhere is Kate mentioned as a maybe.
Kate would never stand up to the rigorous training, she does not do hard work!!!
Her gait is like a galloping gallumpus so she would be cut first time out anyway!!

@Ohio Buckey: I love your take on Crazy Town, she certainly belongs there....hmmm..do I feel a song coming on? :)

Tami said...

Recently,there was a re run of the episode where Kate 'cleans' the kid's rooms. She goes on and on about how messy the kid's rooms were and how 'it is against the LAW' to film in the children's bedroom. Question is? When did this 'law' originate because IIRC, TLC was in violation of this so referenced 'law' the filming of Seasons 1 , 2, 3, etc. until
the Gosselins move to the 'new house'. Not only did TLC FILM in the children's bedroom but also installed industrial lighting and HIDDEN cameras as well.
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It seems like she was just being snarky and in her underhanded way was relating that Jon will no longer let the kids be filmed in the bedrooms. I'm sure it killed her when they stopped because they got such "good" footage of them there and it would keep them out of her hair. They were already split up but pretending to be a couple when they moved so he may have already put his foot down to TLC about some of the filming.

Gimme Gimme said...

Typical Mommie Dearest behavior. If the kids can't be filmed in the bedrooms she has no reason to go in there.

I also feel that she was angry at the twins that day, and went on one of her rampages to show that she could bully them around whether they were there or not. She probably showed them the footage on that when they got home. You cross me this is what you get. How embarrassing that must have been for them.

How Joan Crawfordish of her.

And TLC is chomping at the bit to film this again?

Vanessa said...

Getitright,
My apologies, I didn't get the "right" fertility treatment. The point I was trying to make is JUST like Nadya, Kate already HAD children AND just like Nadya she went out seeking MORE fertility treatments. Just like Nadya, Kate could not financially afford any more children, let alone the cost of the treatments. Kate went ahead with the treatment KNOWING full well that she could end up with higher order multiples.
Both women expected family/society/government/corporations to pay for their brood. WHY is Kate applauded by the View crew and yet Nadya is attacked? They never questioned HER plans, how were THEY were going to afford all those children? The Gosselins might not have been on food stamps, but they sure stood in line for charity. It's the hypocrosy of the media that is truly frustrating. Whoopie and Joy only follow Barbara's lead, if SHE likes the guest then they play nice, if not, the fangs come out.

Can't See Sheep said...

jibberjabbers said...

How to properly hold your child.

(see link above)
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You know, I bet the Gosselin 8 would get more affection from that monkey mom than they ever will from kate. I worry as to how burnt out these kids will be by the time they hit their teens, because I believe that kate will push them until they physically drop & even then, I'm sure she'll show them no sympathy. She'll wring everything out of them that she can.

Ohio Buckeye you are so right about narcissists & it usually isn't even good to be loved by a narcissist as they tend to destroy so much, even if you are on their good side you can still end up with plenty of turmoil, trauma & agony. It's usually just better to keep clear of these people.

As for Hailey she needs to grow up & go away. Move on already!

Thanks Jane in California. There you go, now that is something that needs to be reinforced out there, kate's touch of doom on any show she's a part of. That would definately keep people from having her on their show, if they have any say of it. The more it's pointed out & the more people see it happen the fewer shows she's going to be on. We've all seen what happens to stars who were branded box office poison.

I really hope no movie of the Gosselins comes out unless it's based on a book written by one of the children when they are old enough to do so, because if kate has anything to do with it, it'll all be about her martyrdom & sainthood. Is there no end to the people who are all too happy to make money off of these kids? Sick!

MrNoodle said...

The Big Wooden Spoon said...
I have never ever ever seen Kate actually hug those kids. I mean the scoop-them-up-in-your-arms kind of hug that real mothers do. When Kate "hugs" a kid, she bends at the waist, keeps her body back, and has as little contact as possible. So fake and so sad
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Ditto. Whereas Jodi would bend to their level. I also liked when Jodi fed them or did crafts with them , she just did it. As if doing the same thing 6, 8 or 10 times were the most natural thing iin the world.
With Kate she would let the camera know that look she just did it eight times.
Remember the show was scrited for drama, so maybe she is more affectionate off camera.

SafetyTrain said...

Midnight Serenade said...

Or she could read from a teleprompter, like another politician does when he speaks to children in a classroom. LOL...

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Actually that politician didn't use a teleprompter when he was speaking with the children directly. He used a teleprompter when he was making a formal speech to the tv cameras while still in the classroom - like all politicians do.

kate's an idiot said...

This week's in touch magazine had a paragraph regarding the sale of the etown house. It says the house sold for $258K, well below the $325K asking price and according to zillow.com, $22K less than what Jon and Kate paid for that "suffocating" 5 bedroom house on 1/3 acre. So why was it reported a month or two ago that the house sold at a profit? With the current housing market, in touch's version is far more believable. If so, then TLC/Kate planted lies to ROL, why? To make Kate look better? Are we supposed to believe she's a real estate genius because she ostensibly sold the house at a profit? The greedy moron refused to accept any offers for a year, thereby negating any profit that could have been made due to paying two mortgages all that time. Did Kate really think people were lining up to pay for that pee-soaked house over the market rate? Just because she lived there? The lazy fool DIDN'T CLEAN the dump before it was put on the market plus was filmed doing all kinds of disgusting things there, such as brushing 8 sets of teeth at the table and weathering disasters involving shit and vomit. Interesting that TLC feels the need to plant lies in the media about Kate, even about things no one cares about! There's no shame in taking a loss on a house in the current market. But Kate's stupidity, greed, and stubborness in waiting for their asking price for a year isn't negated whether or not they sold the house at a supposed profit. Such a big bunch of dumbasses who can't even keep their own unnecessary lies straight

she is evil said...

Did target go out of business in pa? Where has Kate been? A guess... Look for evidence of more plastic surgery when she resurfaces.

Ohio Buckeye said...

@SheIsEvil: "Did target go out of business in pa? Where has Kate been? A guess... Look for evidence of more plastic surgery when she resurfaces."

Good grief, what's left to modify?

Let's hope she went in for a soul transplant.

Ohio Buckeye said...

@Mr. Noodle: "Ditto. Whereas Jodi would bend to their level. I also liked when Jodi fed them or did crafts with them , she just did it. As if doing the same thing 6, 8 or 10 times were the most natural thing in the world."

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Jodie's style vs. K8's: K8 would turn her back as her kids made projects, stating she couldn't bear to see the 'mess'.

And there you have a great visual example of NORMAL (Aunt Jodie) vs. ABNORMAL (K8).

What is the message conveyed to kids when mommy dearest has to avert her eyes because your efforts are too 'messy' for her to tolerate????

What is the message when your mom makes fun of the art work you did?

What is the message when your mom picks the colors you are allowed to paint because it's more important to her to match the decor than to allow artistic self expression of her children?

longtimelurker said...

I have been following this blog for some time, this is my first comment.

Has anyone noticed the sixgosselins.com website is no longer working? It still has a page but there is 'nothing' on it. This is fairly recent as I was at their website last fall (it was way out of date though).
I had been reading archived blogs and in August '08 someone suggested using the 'way back machine' website to view their old website.
So I tried it and a message pops up saying the site has been blocked by its owner. check out the link below:

http://www.archive.org
/web/web.php

and put sixgosselins.com

Seems they really would like a 'clean slate'

Betty Boop said...

Red letter day! I went to the store this morning and for the first time since last spring, I didn't see anything Gosselin related.

ihatefrogstoo said...

I agree, no Gosselin on any tabloid cover and I didn't see any articles either.

Jane in California said...

Betty Boop said...

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Isn't that nice!? On my frequently visited news site, nothing in the entertainment section about the Gosselins either.

PA Midstate Mommy said...

@SheIsEvil: "Did target go out of business in pa? Where has Kate been? A guess... Look for evidence of more plastic surgery when she resurfaces."

I think you're right on target (sorry for the pun!). Probably had to have a nip and tuck to get ready for The View.

stop said...

Hailey Glassman has started up again, now claiming Jon owes her 200k up from the original 90. She's telling her story to anyone that will listen local Fox news and of course, ROL. Everyone last one of these people are fame-hos and money mongers, exploiting 8 small children.
The way the two Kates and Hailey stooped to the lowest form of revenge and vindictiveness goes to show that NONE of these women ever had the children in their minds first either.
The people at ROL make me sick with their condolences for Andrew Koenig, yet they seem to forget that openly called for Jon to commit suicide or wished him to die. Kate's fans never think of these children, yet she and TLC and their mouth-piece, ROL eggs these freaks on. TLC, people will never forget how you and the mother of 8 children tore a father down when he was at his lowest...strange how Lohan, Major, Glassman, that nanny that keeps blabbling to the tabs, Kate's GF, their lawyers seem to link back to TLC..to Kate.

Can't See Sheep said...

kate's an idiot said...
So why was it reported a month or two ago that the house sold at a profit? With the current housing market, in touch's version is far more believable. If so, then TLC/Kate planted lies to ROL, why? To make Kate look better?
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Unfortunately that's probably why it was done, all that matters in kate's smoke & mirror world is appearances. Nothing that has any substance holds any value with there.

She probably thought the sheeple would line up around the block to buy her house, it would appear she set the price too high for them. I thought a group of them might pool together some money, purchase it & turn it into a shrine for they're saint, but nope.

Bubbles said...

Nadya vs. Kate

Nadya appears to have had so many children from a pathological desire to feel loved by someone. I think the dr that did IVF for her when she already had 6 children and was on public assistance should have his license pulled. Unbelievably poor judgment on his part.

Kate appears to have had multiples because of a pathological desire for attention. I completely believe that she manipulated her fertility treatments both to be allowed to start fertility treatments far sooner than most "infertile" women are, AND to utilize the type of fertility treatment that would give her the highest chance of high order multiples. I question the judgment of her fertility drs as well, but on different grounds. I don't think Kate's drs acted unethically, but either they were fooled by Kate (as in she lied about how long she'd been trying to become pregnant) or they went outside the standard guidelines of fertility treatment.

In both cases, these children were brought into the world to fulfill some selfish need of their mothers'. In both cases, the children are being raised with a lot of outside help (meaning non-family members).

When the bottom line is the well-being of 22 children between them...well, neither mother comes out ahead. The comparisons between the two mothers are really pointless when you look at the big picture. Despite the efforts of many people both in CA and PA, no one with any authority is looking out for the best interests of these kids and it's shameful. It's no wonder kids are out there being abused in the foster care system when you can see photographed and televised abuse of children that goes unnoticed.

Ohio Buckeye said...

@Can'tSeeSheep: Good point. With K8's ego being what it is, perhaps she thought one of her dimwitted fans would be sufficiently enamored to buy the ETown home and consider it a shrine to St. K8 - kinda like the old house in Cleveland that was renovated to be a museum about the '80's movie, "Christmas Story".

K8 seems to overlook the likelihood that those in her particular fan base are unlikely to be educated/successful enough to be able to afford a whole heck of a lot.

Therefore, if K8 has any smarts at all, she'd be wise to keep the cost DOWN on any of her 'books'. Of course, it would also be wise to keep the vocab DOWN, as well, for this audience of hers.

Yep, lots of pictures and snappy little biblical quotes - there you have K8's 'books'.

Kate Gosselin: not exactly Encyclopedia Brittanica.

jibberjabbers said...

Where as Kate been?

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Maybe after Jon finally lifted his objection over filming the kids, TLC finally put the green light to film Kate's new show.

TLC admitted that they don't know what Kate new show would be about... So, after Jon gave in, TLC all of a sudden, knows exactly what to do with Kate and her new show.

1st 3 weeks, a show all about Kate doing her thing.

When ratings start to drop, because Kate is clueless and uninteresting, have a special where the kids show up.

And once people start seeing the kids, TLC will slowly include the in a lot more of the episodes.

Even so, I won't be watching.

Maggie said...

Here is the deal. This site is not a political site and we had a quip from both sides and we aren't putting any more through.

So lets move on.

silimom said...

kate's an idiot said...
This week's in touch magazine had a paragraph regarding the sale of the etown house

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There's been a lot of wondering why they're only just reporting the sale when we had word in January that the house had sold, and why the sales price is less than what they had said in January.

1) I remember a former Etown neighbor came on GWOP in January confirming that there was a new family living in the old house.

2) It could be that the paperwork wasn't filed until this past month, so while the house had indeed sold, it didn't show up on the property rolls until February (I could be wrong - not a real estate expert)

3) It could be that the sales price originally listed in January was prior to any home inspection that was done. Following that, and depending on what work needed to be done, the buyers could have come back with an adjustment to their original offer and that could be the new price that is being posted.

I'm sure there are lots of other scenarios that we could come up with.

IMO, Jon should have asked for the Etown house in the divorce (although I suppose if it's sale was tied to the purchase of the McMansion, that wouldn't be possible). It would have allowed him and the kids a familiar home in this whole debacle. But no use crying over spilt milk.

silimom said...

Bubbles -

I agree with your points. As for Kate's doctor's being manipulated, all we know is that she began treatments to try for "just one more". She did IUI (Intrauterine Insemination) and fertility drugs. In October they had an appointment with the doctor, which showed 3-4 ripe follicles, standard for IUI. Because of concerns that they would not reduce in the case of HOM, they went home to consider whether to go through with the treatment, which they decided to do.

They went back, another ultrasound was done which showed 8 ripe follicles. At this point she was hospitalized for hyperstimulated ovaries. 5 weeks later she was pregnant with the septuplets (they lost one in utero). The question has always been did the doctor inseminate? I tend to believe they didn't but that Kate and Jon went ahead and conceived the old fashioned way, Kate knowing full well that she'd likely conceive triplets or higher.

The doctor can't come out and say anything due to doctor/patient confidentiality.

Do I have physical proof of all of this? No. But I think the facts fit the theory pretty darn well.

soundsaboutright said...

@SheIsEvil: "Did target go out of business in pa? Where has Kate been? A guess... Look for evidence of more plastic surgery when she resurfaces."

Kate is probably hold up at her secret hide away practicing for her debut as co host on The View.

I can see it now. All her children's stuff animals lined up on the bed as Kate stands in front of them using a $200 designer extension brush as her microphone. With her PR team on the side lines 'coaching' her over and over like those over bearing and obnoxious mothers on Toddlers and Tiaras; 'that wasnt good enough, lets go over it again', remember to smile at the judges aka audience and you might want to blow them a few kisses and if you do a REALLY good job we will take you to get sushi .

Bubbles said...

@silimom - I hadn't heard the timeline on that exactly, but I knew it was something like that. I have to agree that I suspect the dr would have been unlikely to inseminate if she was "overstimulated."

I'm also bothered by how soon they were able to start fertility treatments to get pregnant with the twins considering how long they'd been married. I mean, even if you count the time from the day they MET, they still got fertility treatments really fast. Especially for their ages, which were what, 22 and 24?

I am a nurse but I knew of PCOS before I ever went to nursing school, and I still say that Kate doesn't fit the symptoms of it from her outward appearance. I know you can't tell just by looking, but I have seen a lot of women with PCOS and one really major symptom they all have in common is being overweight. Kate has never seemed to have a weight problem. (Yes, it's fluctuated due to her crash dieting etc but she's never been even what I'd consider chubby.)

What Kate wants...Kate gets. And I think ultimately that is what bothers me most about this whole situation! (Other than the obvious detriment to the children.)

KatesBigFlintstoneToe said...

jibberjabbers said...
(regarding Kate's new show)
...When ratings start to drop, because Kate is clueless and uninteresting, have a special where the kids show up.

And once people start seeing the kids, TLC will slowly include the in a lot more of the episodes.
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Ummm, WHO wants to watch these kids?? All they do is boss each other, fight, and act like Kate! They are no longer cute babies

gherkin said...

Just looked at a site called TVbythenunbers and it was updated 3 hours ago saying that Kate will indeed be on DWTS. Don't know if this is true, but they are claiming it will be announced on Monday.

This will be another show I will not be watching from now on if this is true!

tigerfan said...

Just looked at a site called TVbythenunbers and it was updated 3 hours ago saying that Kate will indeed be on DWTS. Don't know if this is true, but they are claiming it will be announced on Monday.

Interesting? Kate is still under contract with TLC. I am speculating that if Kate will in fact appear on DWTS, TLC will stand to gain a percentage of the earnings Kate is paid for her appearance on the show. It has become very clear why TLC was so eager to settle their law suit with Jon. Not only did TLC receive the Gosselin children as the collateral for the 'breach of contract' debt but will continue to keep Jon on a 'hush money' payroll further allowing Kate to pursue 'outside' interests which in return will reward TLC with a % of Kate's earnings. Additionally, IMO TLC demanded that Jon remain under TLC contract in order to maintain their 'approval' power over Jon, thus minimizing the element of 'competition'.

moo said...

Gimme Gimme said...
I also feel that she was angry at the twins that day, and went on one of her rampages to show that she could bully them around whether they were there or not. She probably showed them the footage on that when they got home. You cross me this is what you get. How embarrassing that must have been for them.
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This clip actually frightened me.
TLC could have easily staged her making cookies for the first day of school. Instead we see her "cleaning" twins room.

It was obvious she was angry and took her frustrations out by tossing their stuff and saying awful things about her own daughters on tv.