Any Positive Stories? By Two Clueless Idiots

I don't know if I actually care enough about Kate or Jon to HATE them, but I certainly don't like them, admire them or desire to ever be in the same room with them... They are horrible examples of human beings and parents - both selfish and immature beyond belief.

Here is a question I have for those who call me a hater or jealous, though. Can anyone, anywhere, give a firsthand account of positive interactions with Kate Gosselin? Does anyone who has had direct interaction with her have anything positive to say? You never hear anyone saying, "Yes, she's really personable" "she's friendly" "she's down to earth" "she's kind" or "she was so warm to my children" or anything else even remotely positive. Where are the people who have had direct interaction with her who have good things to say? Neighbors? Townspeople? Shopkeepers? Friends? Fellow parents? Fans? Church members? J&K+8 guests/hosts who have provided all these wonderful "culturizing" activities for their kids?

All I've heard about is a demanding, demeaning, controlling, wacko B*&^H. There are plenty of stories about her horrible behavior...where are the stories of kindness, graciousness or civility? I have always found it very suspect that anyone who has had any contact with her has been required to sign confidentiality agreements. This is NOT normal, and would be totally unnecessary if anyone had anything remotely positive to say about interactions with her.

Please, someone, anyone, come out of the woodwork with personal stories of positive interactions with Kate Gosselin. I would love to hear personal stories of how her kindness or generosity helped mold your image of her. I would love to hear how you were inspired by watching her interact lovingly and patiently with her children. I would love to hear that there is another side of Kate that is warm, genuine, caring, compassionate, considerate and kind. I would be willing to reconsider all the very negative thoughts I've had about her as a person and as a parent if people would come forward and give descriptions of direct instances of meaningful, positive interactions with her. Anyone? ANYONE????

Thank you to Two clueless idiots.

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Irene said...

This post is surely gonna be short & sweet.

I wish I would not see her everyday at the tanning bed, starbuck's or Target. It is pretty sad when you have 8 children and your day revolves around your day.
Especially, when only 50% of your time is spent away from them in the 1st place.

Nice try but I would not hold my breath waiting.

Melissa said...

Insert crickets chirping here.

Sorry TCI, I think you might be out of luck on this one.

My boyfriend lives near Wernersville; I've had a few run ins with locals regarding the Gosselins coming into their Cafe and such, and NOBODY has ANYTHING nice to say.

Jane in California said...

I think we'll be hearing the sound of silence on this one.

To use Paula Deen as an example -- you do hear from people who have met her. My hairdresser has met her! He visited her restaurant and she happened to be there, mingling with the customers. He said she was absolutely charming and funny, and just like she is on TV.

At book signings or other public appearances, she does not have a bodyguard to keeps people away, or takes their cameras and treats them like dirt.

And I defy anyone to find and post on youtube a time when Paula Deen is caught on camera speaking rudely to any single family member - except jokingly. C'mon Kate fans, rise to the challenge and post a link to a youtube video that captures Paula Deen slapping Michael in the face, hollering at him for not using a coupon, or otherwise berating him, or perhaps one where she screams at one of her boys for doing something wrong, or where she describes them as icky or dirty. How about a youtube of her screeching at one of her dogs?

Oh wait, there aren't any because she isn't that sort of a person. But she's a strong, determined successful woman who has wisely capitalized on her popularity, without getting fake boobs, wearing four-inch heels, or treating everyone around her like dirt.

Hippie Chick said...

I highly doubt you will get much, but it would be nice to see something positive. Hmmm. All I hear is the wind whistling...

Elvira said...

I've read about three positive stories of meeting with Kate in all the time since the show started. All were by gushing fans who either found a way to put a positive spin on Kate merely signing the book they had purchased or one had taken Kate gifts. Even some of the adoring fans have written horror stories of Kate not even looking up when signing their books or of leaving early from book signings and so on. What is interesting is to watch the videos of book signings where Kate knows a camera is there vs the ones filmed with cell phones. She glows and beams when she knows a professional camera is there and reverts to grump as soon as they are gone.

Midnight Serenade said...

"I wish I would not see her everyday at the tanning bed, starbuck's or Target."

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You see her every day at the tanning bed? Which one is that? Have you taken photos?

2exhausted2name said...

Wasn't there a blog post (on another blog) from an Elizabethtown neighbour who had nice things to say about Jon? About how friendly he was until Kate reigned him in?

That's about the only positive thing I've read about either of them that hasn't come from an a@@ kissing article (aka every People magazine interview)

Pa Mom Knows said...

Former neighbor. Nothing positive, I'm sorry to say.

Mandy said...

Interesting post.

In the past years since this all started and even living in the same area I have to say I have NEVER read or heard anything positive about Kate.

No one, to my knowledge, has ever come to her defense - not family, former co-workers, former classmates, neighbors, those who have dealt with her in public - only her obsessed fans. To me that says a lot. I imagine we would be hearing even more negative encounters except people are afraid to lose their jobs.

As a matter of fact, if someone did post something positive now I would be highly suspicious. Why would it take a post specifically asking for it to get them to say something? Why not defend her sooner?

Anyway, in answer to your question "any positive stories?" sorry I've got nothing.

fidosmommy said...

Well, she laughs a lot. A lot.

I think what we have seen on 5 seasons of Jon and Kate Plus 8 is
pretty much what there is to know about Kate Gosselin. Even in the early days she was self-centered,
rude, demanding, complaining, loud, and rather tempermental. It wasn't until the later seasons that we saw that extend beyond her relationship to Jon and reaching to her children, the crew, her extended family (Jodi for one),
and the people who came into her home to clean, to cook, to organize or install things. A neighbor in E-town wrote an article about life with Kate Gosselin on the street, didn't he?
(Maybe I imagined that....it's been awhile.)

Kate is who she is. She may say that she has "improved greatly" since the start of the show, but I don't see it. I see the opposite.
She has maintained the above list of traits and has added entitled and mean. She may be able to deal with laundry water on the floor better now, but that's not what we're talking about here. She was, is, and will ever remain a
self-involved, hateful woman. She moved well past needing Jon as her emotional support system (as any new mother is free expect from her husband) to using Jon as her mental health scapegoat and puppet. She began to see people outside the family as her personal assistants she wanted to have to do the work, but they better not get in her way or take any credit.

So, to answer the question, she laughs a lot. A lot.

But other than that, not so much good to be said. Sorry. I know she is a child of God, but I just find her intolerable.

HI 50 said...

Elvira, 1/01/2010 2:00 PM

Interesting observation about Kate's interactions with her fans on/off camera. That's probably why TLC assigned a handler/bodyguard to insure the brand is protected. In Vanity Fair, Steve did make a statement that the paps needed to be protected from Kate...she was pissed.

The only positive statements made about Kate occurred AFTER the everything was exposed. Suddenly Kate had an entourage directing her every move, to protect the brand. Did anyone notice on interviews, she wore ear pieces, probably so the PR people could tell her HOW to respond to questions. Oh, remember Whoopie's statement on the view, "...see we're all wearing ear pieces..." something to that effect. Thereafter, stories came out about interviews requiring pre-approved questions only. Ha, ha, ha...just so TLC could help her create a fascade of being a nice person.

Hope the Gossselin 8 have a HAPPY NEW YEAR & they were able to enjoy festivities with people who really love them.

IBM62 said...

So, to answer the question, she laughs a lot. A lot.
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Yeah, but her laugh is more of a creepy and annoying cackle that reminds me of nails on a chalkboard, so I'd say that's more of a negative. Lol.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"TLC signs my pay cheques. Kate is a wonderful person. I am bound by a confidentiality agreement until 2014."

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Are you from the UK? Here, it's "check."
Apparently you didn't live in her neighborhood or grow up with her?!!

jibberjabbers said...

This video sums it all up:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xatnew_kate-gosseln-denies-a-little-girl-a_people.

TPoV said...

I have NEVER heard of an positive stories of Kate, but I do have one about Jon! I met him a few month ago, during the time he was going on all of those news shows trying to stop filming. He came over to me, signed an autograph and took the time to talk to me, despite the paparazzi hysteria surrounding him. He was so sweet, and seemed as he truly cared about what I was saying. I was in shock after talking to him. I realized that Jon might have messed up (many times!) but he has a heart and took the time to talk to each one of his fans.

tuesday said...

ummm... she's a great role model on what NOT to do. she's also very entertaining, in fact she's hysterical. popcorn screeching, husband demeaning, big spoon hitting, silly pink cowboy hat wearing, stupid as hell giggling, avoiding her children nonsense...
there's more...
sorry if that wasn't positive. I got off track.

maxi said...

She is a lesson to all women that plastic surgery doesn't make you pretty if you're ugly inside.

Lauren said...

Let's see something positive about Kate.



*Thinking*



*Scratching head and thinking hard*



*Crickets*



*Still thinking even harder*



*Scratching chin - still thinking*



Nope, I got nothing. I have not heard of one single positive thing about Kate Gosselin.

LisaNH said...

Hmmmm, something positive about Hate. Waiting for it, waiting for it....Nope!! I've got nothing.

You know, this woman has had so many great opportunities handed to her and do you think for an instance, just a stinking instance she could have paid it forward? Just once? I mean rather than spend her time at tanning salons, shoe stores etc... she could have done something useful like assist a family in need or used her "celebrity" for a charitable organization. But no, Hate had to use her celebrity for herself and herself alone.

If anyone does not deserve all the perks that life has handed her, it's Hate.

Tami said...

Well, she has inspired many people to go out and get bad haircuts. Other than that, I've got nothing.

sallygal said...

She laughs a lot. Well, you're right! But it's usually at someone's expense. Like one of her kids or Jon. Or she's being sarcastic. I don't even think her laughter can make her attractive.

Chronicworld said...

I have a friend who works at the Grand Wailea in Maui, and he said that Jon and Kate were 'not gracious people'.
I think that's a very nice way of putting it!

Maude said...

Interesting idea for a thread.
I posted a while back that I have never heard anyone say they didn't like Kate but meeting her changed their mind. This is one of the things that makes me think we've been right about her all along.

kate is a cocky bitch said...

I can't stand Paula Dean, from the stories I have heard she is also a controlling rymes with witchs, just like Queen-Kate. If she's gonna defend anyone, especailly this monster I would take it with a large grain of salt.

An LCDS Parent said...

Kate doesn't "have time for friends" unless you sign a confidentiality agreement. Have you ever heard a word from those that "attended" the tups birthday party? Enough sid.

qtrfan said...

You would think that TLC's PR machine would throw a few positive items into this thread.

Apparently even TLC cannot come up with anything that we would believe.

Couple of questions - does an confidentiality agreement for a TLC employee expire? If so, is that employee free to write a tell-all after it expires?

Geema said...

Not one positive story yet. I posted awhile ago that I'm amazed that there aren't any negative incidents reported by household staff. I guess even a brief encounter, positive or negative, is proteced by a confidentiality agreement of some sort. I imagine that TLC forces the agreements on employees of Kate's nail salon, her hair salon, the local Starbucks, her tanning salon and even Target. Otherwise, someone would have posted something by now.

Lucy said...

"Any Positive Stories"?

Awwww cmon give us something easy like "Any Negative Stories"?

Geez!

rural mom said...

Got one, Kate is a rule follower, she has never ever broken TLC's rule that she can not speak to the paparazzi no matter what they ask of her to comment on. Good puppets are rare to find these days, Kate is one of them.

Megan said...

@ PA Mom Knows


Does it matter where she is from? I think she was making a joke.

ChurchMouse said...

Well...she did assist the economy. I'm sure some folks got overtime making those Halloween wigs.

Irene said...

Kate does speak to Paparazzi. Sometimes actions speak louder than words. That women has more wardrobe changes in a day then Madonna does on a concert stage.

Janine said...

NADA, ZIP, ZERO, I got nothing.

readerlady said...

I can't think of anything positive to say about Khate, but I do know something positive about Jon. I have a cat show friend who is from the area and who knew Jon casually when he was younger. She said he was not very smart, and kind of feckless (well, we all know that), but that he was unfailingly polite and pleasant to people and was the kind of person who went out of his way to help anyone who was in trouble. So there's good in there somewhere,and he just needs to reconnect to it.

Mona said...

Um.

Um.

Um.

GlassHalfFull said...

OK...I will try...(don't hit me!):
She has sort of a pretty face (when it's not making ugly expressions, which is most of the time)
She has an "interesting" (sort of sarcastic) sense of humor, that again, when NOT putting down people left and right, is funny AT TIMES.
While definitely NOT Mother of the Year, I have heard of (and known) WORSE mothers than she. (think Susan Smith, etc) I mean, she SEEMS to care about their safety overall, their grooming and health.
I can't think of anything else right now...but will dwell on it a bit more.
(shrink back in to couch to avoid the shrieks of outrage) :-)

GoPoshGo said...

ChurchMouse said...
Well...she did assist the economy. I'm sure some folks got overtime making those Halloween wigs.

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More likely some underage kids in a third-world country made a dime a day slaving away on the possum reproductions. Hmmmmm... child abuse ... violation of child labor laws .... Sounds very Gosselin-ish-y to me.

Minka's Tail said...

I did some research for you, and found this story. There once was a woman named Mrs. Deaton. She came late to Kate's autograph party at a bookstore, and Kate noticed her gigantic pregnant abdomen as she was leaving. After that, Kate and this book chain apparently went out of their to get her a copy of that book and to make sure she was the first in line for Kate's next autograph session.

Of course, this woman has a blog,and may be locally famous to some extent, so it's possible (probable?) that that played into it. Kate may have known she'd get some good publicity on the net if she fussed over this woman, but either way, it was nice.

That is the only positive interaction I have ever heard between Kate and anyone else. Not very good, huh?

Brummygirl said...

The only positive thing I can think about Kate at the moment...is her absence!!!

Rose said...

Honestly, I don't think Kate ever has or ever will show an act of kindness to anyone unless a camera (particularly one from TLC) is filming it...and even then, her "warmth" is incredibly transparent.

The show had more footage of her book appearances in their last few episodes, because of course, that was when Kate started to go on at great length, time and time again, about the amazing "epiphany" she had about her fans and how she just totally appreciates them on a whole new level now. (You can hand me that barf bag now, by the way.) There would be brief moments where Kate would, for example, see a little Asian child and say, "Wow, you'd fit really nice in my family!" or someone would introduce themselves as her biggest fan, and she would say "Hello, biggest fan!" but of course, she would make zero eye contact with the person, and they'd barely even get so much as a smile from her. She would just spew out cutesy little quips every once in a while so the show could re-air the footage and do their best to portray her as such a friendly, gracious superstar.

I agree with Elvira's previous post, where she said that when it comes to Kate, lot of people tend to mistake a positive, friendly encounter for Kate's mere action of autographing a book for them. Not a book or a photograph that they brought from home, mind you, but a book that they just purchased through the store, because she wouldn't dare sign anything for a fan unless she was making a firm profit from every single item she touched. Think about it. Sheeple all over the country are desperate to meet Kate, even if only for a few seconds, and when they come face-to-face with her at a book signing, they are so star-struck, she doesn't even have to do much of anything except sign their book for them. Then those people go home, taking the memory of that brief encounter with them, and they believe that just because they met her and got maybe a little smile or a split second of eye contact from her, then she is an amazing person who has earned their respect.

You see, it doesn't take a whole lot for the sheeple to be awe-struck by Kate Gosselin. It doesn't take much at all. I haven't heard one single testimony from a person who actually met Kate, sat down and talked to her, and got the chance to know a woman who was polite, caring, sincere, and every bit the person she claims to be on television. Honestly, I haven't heard one story like that - not a single one with concrete examples of her amazing-ness. Oh, but I've heard quite a bit about the way she treats her camera crew, how she has shunned her "fans" who dared to pass by her on one of her all-expenses-paid vacations, and how she speaks to her own children. And it's not just stories - it's what is seen explicitly on the TV, from the show itself.

I don't know what it's like to be in the public eye and have people following you all the time, but I think we all know that it's something entirely different when you are rude and disrespectful to almost everyone you meet. It's different, too, when you are barking out orders at everyone around you, all while claiming to be someone you aren't as your home cameras are filming your best moments in an attempt to "overshadow" your much more frequent negative ones.

Katan the stupid said...

The silence is, ummm, deafening.

Kate, if you read this, know that no one likes you. And I'm pretty sure that includes your eight little meal tickets.

alana said...

Katan the stupid said

"Kate, if you read this, know that no one lkes you."


She doesn't care.


That's the creepy part.

Can't See Sheep said...

Wow, all the posts so far & nothing. Gee, wish I could say I was surprised, but like so many, I'm not. The sound of the crickets is deafening on this one.

Baby Mama said...

Funny, if you would actually allow a fan to come on here without deleting the post you would hear many nice things about Kate from people that have ACTUALLY MET HER. This is a site that dedicates itself to attacking her. So don't let these types of posts on without actually allowing someone who is a fan say what they would like.

Kate is funny, sweet and actually very nice in person.

Jane in California said...

kate is a cocky bitch said...

I can't stand Paula Dean, from the stories I have heard she is also a controlling rymes with witchs, just like Queen-Kate. If she's gonna defend anyone, especailly this monster I would take it with a large grain of salt.
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I'm not sure Paula Deen has ever truly defended Kate, or sang her praises. I have no doubt Ms. Deen is a very shrewd and tough business woman -- just look at what she has accomplished, even starting late in life to tv fame.

I don't know her personally, but as I said above, my hairdresser and his partner met her in person when they visited her restaurant and they both felt she was absolutely charming. My point was more in comparing Kate vs. Paula in how they treat their family, and in how they treat their fans. It's like night and day.

I also think it's funny that Kate's PR machine hasn't been able to post any sort of positive story about Kate yet. I can her the conversation as they brainstorm:

"Well, there was that time when they went to get the dogs . . . errr, never mind."

"Oh how about the time when she promoted a movie at the children's hospital? She didn't make any of the kids cry!"

"She didn't punch Whoopi Goldberg in the face -- that's positive."

"Anyone got an Advil?"

Brummygirl said...

Baby Mama said...
Funny, if you would actually allow a fan to come on here without deleting the post you would hear many nice things about Kate from people that have ACTUALLY MET HER.
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Well lookey here, if you really are Baby Mama. Our Mods actually did not penalise your post and recently offered a post up for Kate's followers to comment. One person complied. They let you have a voice which is more than I can say about your restrictive site.
Does this sound familiar? "I always delete the Trolls' names (a.k.a. GWOP)when I see them".
So fire away B.M., give us your proof of the side that we never see of Kate Gosselin. Is it really a nice side or are you as delusional as your Icon!! Have you actually met her in a one to one situation?
A few hundred years ago, you would have been burned at the stake for such weird idolatry!!
I am seriously doubting here that you are who you say you are. J.M.H.O.

Laughing out Loud! said...

Oh Baby Mama,

You make me laugh...... and not in a good way!

Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is said...

Hey BM -

Give us 3 examples of times she has been nice..... just three.....

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

To BabyMama: They let YOUR post through, so I guess you're wrong there.

ChurchMouse said...

Baby Mama said...
"...Kate is funny, sweet and actually very nice in person."

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Well, don't keep us in suspense, Baby Mama. Do you have any concrete examples to share?
Personally, for the kids' sake, I'd love to hear something positive about her.

Because IMHO, she's a selfish person who is more concerned with her own comforts and luxuries than her kids' welfare. And remember, she had two beautiful kids to start off with. She CHOSE to go for multiples. It wasn't an accident. You don't get to complain about life being too hard after doing that.

There are so many kids in foster care, or who NEED good foster parents. To purposely bring six more kids into the world may have been her choice, but I still say she's selfish, selfish, selfish for doing so.

And once you have kids, it isn't about ME ME ME anymore. She keeps saying her kids come first--that's just lip service. Did Colin come first when his bowels were impacted while at the furniture store? What idiot mother takes eight kids to a furniture store?

She's the sort of woman who only remembers what she gives and forgets what she gets. She's the sort of woman who thinks she knows it all and then promptly goes ahead and proves that she doesn't.

So go ahead, Baby Mama, give us some examples of how sweet and loving she is. I've got a couple of minutes to kill. Why not tell me everything you know--wait, I'll get a postage stamp to write it down on.

ChurchMouse said...

Chronicworld said...
"I have a friend who works at the Grand Wailea in Maui, and he said that Jon and Kate were 'not gracious people'."

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Ooooh, wait, I can translate! That's hotel/restaurant speak for, "We tinkled in their coffee every day."

Baby it's cold outside said...

Babymomma: Did you not take your kid out of school to go to a book signing of Kate's? You paid Kate to see you-- and you bought Beth's book not Kate's!

Bella said...

To Baby Mama--care to give specifics and actual accounts instead of banal generalities?

Two clueless idiots said...

Baby Mama said...

Kate is funny, sweet and actually very nice in person.

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I came on honestly asking for examples - my intent isn't to bash anyone who has them...what did she do or say to you that was sweet and nice? I truly want to know. I'm not being facetious and my intention isn't to attack or shoot down anyone with specific examples.

So far, we have one vague reference to "funny, sweet and nice" and one second or third hand story about giving a book to a pregnant woman (and, thanks, GlassHalfFull, no attacks from me! :) Have we heard from anyone who can cite first hand, concrete examples of acts of kindness, or who can quote warm, friendly and positive interactions? Did she take a moment out of her book signing to stop and chat with you and thank you for coming? Did she ask questions about you or your family (i.e. where are you from? how many kids? how old are your children?) For locals, high school friends, church members, neighbors, shopkeepers,co-workers, etc...Did she bring you a meal after you had a baby? Did she donate her leftover baby clothes to a shelter where you volunteer? Did she quietly write a check to support a charity you work with? Did she spontaneously jump in and help clean up when she picked up her kids from your kid's birthday party? Did she help host your baby shower or wedding shower? Did she plan a great holiday party for one of her children's school classes? Does she volunteer at the kids' school (classroom? library? clinic?) Did she stop to talk to your baby while shopping at Target? Did she leave a generous tip when you waited on her at a restaurant? Does she thank you warmly and genuinely after you serve her coffee or paint her nails? Does she ask how you or your family is doing as you check her out at the grocery store? Does she offer to help local new moms of multiples with advice, mentoring or encouragement? Did she send a thank you note to you when you sponsored one of her "freebies" and hosted her huge, rambunctious family in your home or business?

I'm not saying that anyone has to do any one of these things to be a nice person, but these were just normal, everyday things I came up with quickly when I was thinking about how a gracious, genuine, kind person interacts with other human beings. (Especially one who has been so incredibly blessed) I have had several encounters with major celebrities locally where I live, and I could give you positive stories from each and every one of them. Where are the positive stories? We've heard about lots of negative interactions, where are the positive ones?

bullet875 said...

LisaNH said...

Hmmmm, something positive about Hate. Waiting for it, waiting for it....Nope!! I've got nothing.

You know, this woman has had so many great opportunities handed to her and do you think for an instance, just a stinking instance she could have paid it forward? Just once? I mean rather than spend her time at tanning salons, shoe stores etc... she could have done something useful like assist a family in need or used her "celebrity" for a charitable organization. But no, Hate had to use her celebrity for herself and herself alone.

If anyone does not deserve all the perks that life has handed her, it's Hate.
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Kate would have been a good spokeperson for the March of Dimes, if she weren't the witch we kn ow that she is of course. I wonder if they ever contacted her. YOu would think that someone who was given everything after having nothing would be more appreciative, but if you look at most of our sports figures you see the same thing...they don't pay it forward.

Kate could have gotten so much positive publicity out of something like that.... and that's someth8ing she needs right now desperately. Let's face it though, Angelina Jolie she aint.....

CountMeOut said...

She's got a very stretchy uterus.

Is that a compliment?

:)

Anna said...

In fairness, her friend Jamie has said many positive things about her. Barbara Walters has done so as well. And the father from Orange County Choppers had nice things to say about Kate. But that is all I have seen/heard other than some of the women who have gone to her bok signings.

Preesi said...

Chronicworld said...
"I have a friend who works at the Grand Wailea in Maui, and he said that Jon and Kate were 'not gracious people'."


Interesting...

My friend Leilani has been in and out of Hawai'ian Govt and TV news media for 30 + years and she never got a "Nice or gracious" comment about Kate, but they all did think Jon was super nice (as per the usual)

preesi said...

BabyMama?

Why not come down to Pa and knock on Kates door and see if shes nice and sweet?

You have her address honey. Mail her a letter saying "Im gonna be in the area mind if I stop by for lunch?"

You met her while she was signing your book. Shes been heavily trained to appear nice. Its part of marketing.

Kate Gosselin is not your pal, friend or buddy.
She simply signed your book.

Ive taken my son to MANY MANY MANY Sports Card conventions where hes gotten signatures, a smile, a pic and a handshake. That is NOT knowing them, nor is that smile and handshake saying anything about their true temperament. Its just something theyve been coached to do.

And Kate has had TREMENDOUS coaching!

Barbara in VA said...

Well, BM, I guess our moderators letting your post through blows that theory.

Don't you find it creepy that you think you know this woman? How many times have you and your cronies called the rest of us jelus haters who don't even "know Kate"? Many, many times.

Do you think you actually know her or her family? I would love to have you defend the Collin constipation episode, the Joel on the bathroom floor episode, etc., just to hear, from your personal knowledge of the woman, why she, such a nice and sweet person, acted like such a monster on those occasions.

GoAwayGosselins! said...

BabyMama said:

the post you would hear many nice things about Kate from people that have ACTUALLY MET HER.

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BabyMama,

I HAVE actually met her. She was completely rude to me and had an attitude of "I'm better than you" and was very short with everyone. I paid her 20.00 for a picture and I talked to her and she gave me one word answers and when she was done with me she said "next" so the person behind me would give her 20. She did not say thank you, nice meeting you, NOTHING. When a friend of mine who was there asked her for a picture she said "No!" and that was it. She also said "next" after my friend paid her 20.

My husband (who couldn't care less about the Gosselins) made the comment "she thinks we are second class citizens" after we met her.

I WISH I was making this up. I WISH I had a positive encounter with her (I was a huge fan at the time). However, she was horrid at the event I attended and I know from FIRST-HAND experience that she is not friendly and sweeet.

Two clueless idiots said...

CountMeOut said...

She's got a very stretchy uterus.

Is that a compliment?

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OK that TOTALLY made me laugh out loud!!!

She is evil said...

Sad those kids have to grow up with someone so ugly as their mother. Believe me, they know it. I had an unpleasant encounter with the nastiest woman the other day. Her adult daughter snuck back to apologize to me on her mother's behalf. I see this in the Gosselin kids' future until they finally get sick of Kate and avoid her as much as humanly possible.

Preesi said...

Anna said...

In fairness, her friend Jamie has said many positive things about her. Barbara Walters has done so as well. And the father from Orange County Choppers had nice things to say about Kate. But that is all I have seen/heard other than some of the women who have gone to her bok signings.


Was that the episode where they were acting like Jon supposedly wanted a bike and decided to have OCC make him one?
Well, that was also a completely scripted pile of crap episode which we found out later Jon wasnt even allowed to keep the bike.

Barbara and Mr Teutul dont count. OCC is a TLC/Discovery show hes following orders
and Barbara has to say nice things about ppl on her show...

ChurchMouse said...

Two clueless idiots said...

"I came on honestly asking for examples - my intent isn't to bash anyone who has them... I'm not being facetious and my intention isn't to attack or shoot down anyone with specific examples."

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Actually, TwoCluelessIdiots, you make a Very Important Point. My own comments haven't been very nice. I'm actually guilty of being just as snide as I accuse Kate of acting.

I'm feeling more than a bit ashamed of myself.

I've been letting this whole Gosselin thing get to me because I really feel like these kids are going to suffer from their parents' choices.

But writing here is just bringing out a nasty side in me. In German the phrase is called, "Schadenfreude."--It means satisfaction or pleasure felt at someone else's misfortune, or as some would say, "How the Mighty Have Fallen."

I hope that in the future I can find a better use for my voice. I've certainly not been very constructive by merely being snarky.

If you'll all excuse me, this will be my last post on the board. I'm going to go Gosselin-Free for the New Year. I will still encourage folks to visit the Minor Consideration blog as well as this one, because I think you all are doing important work to let people know about the exploitation of these kids.

My thanks to TwoCluelessIdiots for tactfully making an important point.

Bowing out gracefully, and peace to all.
--ChurchMouse

PA Woman said...

Mama said...
Kate is funny, sweet and actually very nice in person.

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Well, now, that's pretty general. I think we would like to hear something a little more specific. What did she say or do to you that is an example of being funny, sweet, and/or nice?

Fufuss said...

Baby Mama said Khate is funny?

Are you kidding me? The only funny part of Khate is ...why she can't see how mean, self-centered, demeaning & stupid she has shown herself to be.

Hippie Chick said...

In regards to Church Mouses' response to Baby Mama...Bravo!! I totally agree with you. Everything you said. Kate is a selfish twit. End of discussion.

goawayJandK said...

Baby M -

Lordy be, please go back to your own delusional blog.

I don't waste my time trying to change the minds of you and the other sheeple, please do not come here to try to change the minds of those who are rational and clear minded.

PS - have you yet realized that K8 needs her "bodyguard" to protect her from fans like you?

Marie in Pa said...

ok, I have never met Kate, though I live 2 hours away. Jon was in my neighborhood about a year ago when his mom broke her leg. She was at the local hospital here. I heard nothing but nice things about Jon and being very personable from my MIL who happened to be on staff at the hospital. My uncle lives near Kate but he has never run into her, but I told him if he does to try and start an conversation w/her to she what she does. When or if he does I will let you know;)

Rose said...

With all due respect, if there are people on this site who really do admire and support Kate, they should not use excuses such as "Positive comments about Kate don't even get posted here, because this site is designed to attack Kate". That's just not true. And I know that most of us on here share a common opinion on Kate, based on the way she acts on television and in person, but we are ASKING for concrete examples of her kindness/friendliness, and this thread WELCOMES those types of comments.

The problem I'm seeing is that certain people are happy to write a quick post like "Kate is funny, sweet, and actually very nice in person", and then they have absolutely no actual examples to back up those claims. If you read through this entire blog, you don't see comments from people who just say simply "Kate is horrible" or "I can't stand her". We stand behind those statements with actual examples that have formed our opinions, based on our own experiences of watching her show and even meeting her in person.

Despite my feelings about Kate right now, I would reconsider all of them if I heard just ONE truly LEGITIMATE story from a person who has positive things to say about her and is ready to back up their statements. You're not going to get very far with "She's sweet and friendly". That tells us nothing, and if you don't bother to be more specific, that's not our fault. We want to listen to your stories--that's why this thread was created in the first place. All we ask is that they are a little more detailed. You can't sell a person's individual qualities in 10 words or less.

Brummygirl said...

Bowing out gracefully, and peace to all.
--ChurchMouse
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Please don't leave ChurchMouse. I guess many of us here have had a laugh at Kate's expense, myself included and I too never thought I would do that to someone, but I think the frustration of how Kate is, especially to her family, brings out the worst in me. The frustration is not being able to right this wrong and is it my job anyway?
Hmmm.....anyway, please do not go.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Church Mouse, I fully understand your bowing out, but I hope you may reconsider and return one day. We've enjoyed getting to know you and we will miss you.

Come back when you can - your welcome awaits!

Irene said...

Barbara Walters is what David Zurawic characterizes as a Huckster, nothing more nothing less.

Baby Mama is entitled to her opinion. Although giving allegiance to someone who hasn't given her 15 minutes says alot for me.

Also, if there was such great stuff about Kate being said, why isn't it on the TLC website? Huh, TLC? Yes, TLC, that is what I thought.

And, Jamie well I have my own ideas about that whole thing. But, I am sure Kate will want to grandstand that "story" for something more than a $20 cash only donation.

In other words garbage in garbage out. 72 comments later and I only find 2 nice things about Kate. Whoop-de-dooh...we need to have a special now.

blahblahblah said...

Baby Mama,
Wow... you know a lady who has 8 kids... Amazing..

Ravello said...

I've been obsessed with reading about these 2 for 3 or 4 years. I cannot recall any first person reports about Kate that were even remotely positive. I have read more than a few about Jon being friendly and a hands on Dad.
I attended a love offering 2 years ago and Jon struck me as warm and sincere. Kate communicated well but was a cold fish. I remember thinking I would hate to live next door to her or have my kids be friends with her kids. I had no personal face contact with either one.
My son lives in NYC and has heard Jon is friendly and approachable on the street.
Baby Mama needs to come back and elaborate on how cackling Kate is funny.

Pamela Jaye said...

2014, huh? I was curious about how long the confidentiality agreements lasted.
Rural Mom, I look forward to your book (no, I didn't see her offering to write one but I hope she does)

Exhausted said...

Does anyone else think the whole Jamie as best friend thing is a complete farce? That is, TLC manufactured a "best friend" for Kate so that she could appear more human and relatable? I just don't know how this best best friend appears out of thin air.

my9cats said...

This is my big beef with sheeple. There are no facts to back up their feelings that Kate is sweet, funny, and very nice in person.

Those of us who are not pro-Kate can cite chapter and verse our reasons why, backed up by the show and her own words and actions.

All we get in return is the tired old phrases: 8 count'em 8, jellus, yada yada yada.

Mystical said...

Hi Rose, you make a keen observation. The defense mechanism in the Kate backers is a given, because surely even they can see what type of person and mother this woman is. They may support her because they can relate to her & therefore, by doing so can somehow justify their own behavior patterns. Thankfully, I have met only one other mom who shared Kate's hateful, greedy, narcissitic characteristics & that was disburbing. Yep, she is a Kate fan in a defensive way! When speaking about Kate, she actually becomes angered like she is talking about & defending her own self.

Rowan said...

I have extensive experience watching celebs interact with people at booksignings and knowledge of what goes on in the background of these events. (Photograph the big ones for a store.)

I can say this - just because someone is "nice" at the event doesn't mean a hill of beans. Some are genuinely nice, and some make you want to kill them after 2 hours. Most of the public doesn't realize this because they only see the celeb for 1-3 min usually. Khate wouldn't be in the latter category - but only because I'd want to get rid of her in 15 min with the way she acts.

Khate does nothing nice unless it primarily benefits her. And that's not genuinely nice.

Miss said...

Baby Mama now that winter is here maybe you can go and shine Kate's shoes to a shiny glow since you adore her so much.

Pa Mom Knows said...

I'm wondering if BM is aware of the fact that there are a few on here who have actually met her; who have lived in Kate's neighborhood; who have grown up with her; who have attended the same church; who have children in the same school, etc. etc.
This supercedes BM's 20 seconds of a face-to-face meeting at a book signing.

Pamela Jaye said...

ummm... she's a great role model on what NOT to do.

That's it! She's a cautionary tale!

Pamela Jaye said...

she could have done something useful like assist a family in need or used her "celebrity" for a charitable organization.

of course she did. she "bought" all those gifts from the kids at St. Jude's (was that the place) and then she griped at having to wrap them herself.
Additionally, she wouldn't *allow* her kids to wrap them, cause they "did it wrong"

Halo24 said...

The sheeple are starting to realize what people here at GWOP have known for a while. This comment I read on BabyMomma's site was really telling.

Tasha said...
"#1caregiver I have to agree about the freebies. The fact that they got the freebies doesn't bother me one bit. Good for them. If you can get them, I wouldn't turn them down. Take what is offered! LOL But what bothers me is how it was portrayed on the show. Just the two you mentioned, the cow and the dogs. They made a point on the show about either mentioning going back in and paying and how expensive it is but worth it because it lasts so long. But they mentioned the twins getting or wanting (been a while) some snack when they went in to write the check.

Then there was the dogs. And they made a point of showing Kate writing the check for the dogs like she was paying for them. If they were a freebie why fake scene on a "reality show"?

There are other examples also. Of them talking about paying for things they got for free. Just makes me question everything. Seems like this whole thing is just image building from TLC. We saw how Jon's image went to hell after he didn't have the protection of TLC. The true Jon was out there to see. So now what am I to think? Kate still has the full TLC image crew on her side. Who is the true Kate? The one who wrote the check for the free dogs? Or all these people who keep saying they meet her in cafes and she is nasty and demanding and I have been saying are just jealous?"
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Open your eyes people! Kate is no one to admire.

Brummygirl said...

Well this is interesting. Church Mouse mentioned another site so I went in to check and this is what was posted after Kate's appearance on the View. Yet another heartfelt moment from the Ice Queen!!.......

Sources from the “Today” staff tell me Gosselin was not the most pleasant person to be around on Monday. In fact, she was ‘‘a total b—-’’ to virtually everyone, said a longtime NBC staffer. ‘‘We get virtually all of the world’s biggest egos coming through here,’’ added the source. ‘‘But Kate was one of the most unpleasant I’ve seen in working here for many years.’’
Another staff member also said that when Gosselin learned there was a chance the cameras might catch sight of the large entourage accompanying her (likely to illustrate how much her life has changed becoming a celebrity on the troubled reality show ‘‘Jon & Kate Plus Eight’’), ‘‘she strongly hinted she would walk off the show,” before the interview with Today co-host Meredith Vieira.
The final note: As Gosselin was departing the “Today” set at NBC’s 30 Rockefeller Center headquarters in New York, she was overheard trashing Vieira. ‘‘Which is even more crazy,’’ added the second source. ‘‘Meredith very clearly, and in a straightforward way, asked exactly the questions you’d expect. She asked about the alleged affair with her bodyguard — which really seemed to p*** [Kate] off, her relationship with Jon, how her kids were doing and whether ‘if you could do it over again, would you?’ ’’
‘‘She was swearing like a drunken sailor as she stormed out,’’ added the “Today” insider.

Texas Two Step said...

Exhausted said...
Does anyone else think the whole Jamie as best friend thing is a complete farce? That is, TLC manufactured a "best friend" for Kate so that she could appear more human and relatable? I just don't know how this best best friend appears out of thin air.

1/03/2010 6:34 PM

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You bring a good point forth since kHate seems to have NO ONE, of course besides her handler Mr. Grey,that she associates with. From the photo's I've seen of this Jamie character, she seems like someone who is easily suckered in by having a "famous" friend, but a little on the ummmmm "odd\stalkerish" side.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWfKgWn3FoI
Rest assured, sooner or later, kHate will stomp a little to hard on this woman and she will sing like a canary.... that is, unless TLC gives her a good enough payoff to keep her mouth shut.

Shut Up Kate said...

Exhausted said...
Does anyone else think the whole Jamie as best friend thing is a complete farce? That is, TLC manufactured a "best friend" for Kate so that she could appear more human and relatable? I just don't know how this best best friend appears out of thin air.

I have no idea about Jamie, but I remember being puzzled after that photo of her manhandling the children appeared in the summer. Jon was on ET and Lara Spencer showed him that photo and got in his face. He took a look at the photo and you could tell he had absolutely no clue who she was and said something about Kate's babysitters. If Jamie was such a long-time close, close BFF, how could Jon not have the foggiest idea who she was.

IMO, she's just a latcher-on, who somehow connected with Kate relatively recently (wasn't it her husband or his company who built Kate's kitchen--my guess is that's when they met.) I also won't be surprised if Jamie and Kate eventually develop their relationship into something more than BFF's. I think they are probably both man haters and bond in that regard. But given that Kate has never had any close friends that anyone can ever recall, and suddenly Jamie is around all the time--it just strikes me as a Rosie O'Donnel kind of relationship where Jamie wants to be with Kate because of her celebrity and no one else in the world can fathom why anyone would want to be with Kate. I think Kate hates men to ever marry again and I think Jamie is just as mean and nasty as Kate, so they are a perfect match for each other. Too bad they both have kids.

As for something good J&K have ever done, all I can say is they did produce eight beautiful children, albeit with a lot of help from God and technology. Too bad they don't know what a true gift that is.

HBailey said...

I have also questioned this Jamie girl as her BFF. The press even says she's a 'longtime' friend. Why are we just now learning of this person? Didn't they have a show for 5 years that included what friends and family they still had left (Kevin and Jodi, Beth and Bob)...and now even these people are not a part of their lives...with no explanation on their part. But now suddenly she's got a longtime BFF that has come out of the woodwork? Highly suspect.

In BM's Own Words said...

This is in response to the post by Babymomma. I went to Babymomma's blog and looked at her post's from the two times that she met Kate Gosselin. Here they are if anyone is interested in Babymomma's encounter's with Khate.

February 12, 2009

The line went quickly. Kate posed for pictures, hugged babies and seemed in a happy wonderful mood dispute the hectic life she must be leading having just come from California. Just as I was about to meet her she stopped for a quick restroom break. When she came back she mentioned quickly that she wanted to make sure the kids were getting ready for bed. When it was my turn I was excited to introduce myself, and even happier that she received my e-mail and was apologetic that she wasn't able to respond back. She knew who I was and we briefly talked about the site and the birth of my 12 lb. baby. That man always accompanying her looked agitated that I was taking up a bit longer of Kate's time. With one obvious hand on the shoulder he had her sign my book & CD and asked if I could take a picture with her. She was happy to do it. Leaving and seeing hundreds more on line made me glad I came early!

Overall Lets Recap:
1. Kate is beautiful in person (though very thin). She was wearing smokin hot 4 inch black heels and really pretty black skinny jeans. Remember the old sweatshirts? (lol) no more!
2. Even the hair looks good, I don't think it reads as well on TV
3. She is sweet, friendly and very misunderstood
4. Those hates sites mean NOTHING! Nobody but those 30 or so bloggers that are constantly on there are any big deal. The fans that don't read it or care what it says are what matters.
5. She couldn't wait to go home and be with Jon & the kids
6. I realized that it was important for me to meet the person I blogged about for the past 6 months. It makes me happy to know that its appreciated. I'm glad I went!

May 5, 2009

My daughter has been waiting for weeks to play hookie and have the day off to be alone in the city with Mommy. Of course while on line she saw Kate she got very nervous. I was having a hard time coaxing her over to the table and lucky for me Kate took charge.. "You know Mady & Cara have the same shirt as you?" Why don't you come here and tell me your name?" Meanwhile I am having a heart attack because my camera (of all times in the world) decides to die on me. I apologized to Kate for keeping her frozen (for a pic) while I tried to snap a photo..she said "Are you kidding, you do NOT have that horrible camera I once had do you? Let me see" and proceeded to try to look at my camera. That's just Kate. She was again very cool, and even hugged my daughter before taking what I believe was a bathroom break. My daughter almost passed out and said "That was so awesome mommy!", when Maddy comes to sign books can I come again?" From the mouth of babes....

Few nice notes..While struggling with my camera I asked if she went home or was staying to enjoy the city..She said she was anxious to get home in time for dinner. (I guess its close enough for her just to go home). I asked her if she was upset about the rain turning the mommies away. She said that although she was disappointed, it was more relaxed and she was able to talk to people more which is what she likes to do. I quickly told her about how excited I was to start a new chapter with my website and did NOT believe me that I was stopping the old one as I am approaching soon my 1 millionth hit in just a few short months. In her words "that's bizarre"...(In a good way trolls (lol))

After thanking me for coming and keeping the true fans of the show "updated" I went off with my happy girl and celebrated her "good girl day" with a trip to Build-A-Bear.

An LCDS Parent said...

Pa Mom Knows said...
I'm wondering if BM is aware of the fact that there are a few on here who have actually met her; who have lived in Kate's neighborhood; who have grown up with her; who have attended the same church; who have children in the same school, etc. etc.
This supercedes BM's 20 seconds of a face-to-face meeting at a book signing.
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Baby Mama I have to agree with PA Mom Knows on this one. Come back when you've actually been around her for more than a book signing. She is very condescending and self-important. She is not a nice person.

For the Moment? said...

I am not sure "Hire a Friend" could supply someone that you could take naps with and hold hands with and stare deeply into the eyes of but have an otherwise "platonic" relationship with. I still can't figure out who made that statement and why they felt it neceesary to add the disclaimer. Maybe this was a longtime behind the scenes "special" friend that she saw secretly from time to time.

PA Woman said...

When speaking about Kate, she actually becomes angered like she is talking about & defending her own self.
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You know, that is true of the couple of Kate-lovers I know. It always amazes me how much passion they have defending someone they never met!

PA Woman said...

HBailey said...
I have also questioned this Jamie girl as her BFF. The press even says she's a 'longtime' friend. Why are we just now learning of this person? Didn't they have a show for 5 years that included what friends and family they still had left (Kevin and Jodi, Beth and Bob)...and now even these people are not a part of their lives...with no explanation on their part. But now suddenly she's got a longtime BFF that has come out of the woodwork? Highly suspect.

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I actually don't question Jamie as a long time "friend" of Kate, since Jamie moved from PA to Michigan several years ago (so we would not see her in the show). What I do question is Kates definition of a BFF. It seems to be someone who gives free child care rather than someone you share your feelings with, shop with, go out for coffee with etc.

barbee said...

I agree with the questions about BFF Jamie. Why was nothing said about where, when they were friends? Because saying they just bought her sounded too crass? Also I've often wondered if Kate (and Kate alone because SHE was the one in charge of all the $$$) didn't have a separate TLC checkbook she used to 'pay' for things 'they' purchased on the show. And read 'they' as TLC or Kate, same difference. I can say something positive about Kate, SHE is positively the most obnoxious person I have ever had the misfortune to be exposed to in my 70 years. And I mean that in the nicest way. Well maybe I meant in the nastiest way. By the way, Happy New Year Irene. And Baby Mama, maybe this is the year you will come out of your Kate Koma and see the folly of your adoration for someone so undeserving of it.

KatyKat said...

Baby Mama,

I have friends who had to be around Kate for days while at Disney. NEVER did the words sweet, funny OR nice come up when describing her.

They did, however, when describing Jon.

MickeyMcKean said...

Pa Mom Knows said...
I'm wondering if BM is aware of the fact that there are a few on here who have actually met her; who have lived in Kate's neighborhood; who have grown up with her; who have attended the same church; who have children in the same school, etc. etc.
This supercedes BM's 20 seconds of a face-to-face meeting at a book signing.

1/03/2010 8:22 PM

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Baby Mama,

There is an advantage of having locals here on this blog.

I am sure you will recall the recent season 5 gymnastics episode where Leah in particular was very excited to start tumbling classes.

For your information after the cameras were turned off all the kids have not been back to the gym. It appears that the "Leah-tards" purchased for all 8 kids was for a one time visit.

This tidbit was confirmed and verified by locals here on this blog who are familiar with the gym and know kids who are currently taking classes there.

Those Gosselin kids have worked their little tails off and yet Kate cannot find the time, money, or motherly love to take them to gymnastic classes if there are NO cameras to follow HER every move.

Kate can, however, find the time and money for her nails and pedicures, as well as Starbucks and anything else for herself which is well documented on ROL.

I'm willing to bet my last paycheck that you could see the
"real Kate" for yourself if you just took off the rose colored glasses.

Halo24 said...

With questions about Jamie...

I recently read Beth's book Multiple Ble$$ing$. Beth writes about how the twins went to stay with a friend from Maryland named Jamie. I think it was a for a few weeks when they were either moving back to their old house or when the tups where 1st born. (sorry can't remember). I checked the book out from the libary. No money for Khate!

Hippie Chick said...

Talking about book signings...I went to a Joe Hill book signing (Stephen King's son) and he could not have been more gracious. He posed for photos, shook hands, answered questions, read a section of his book, signed weird little "Spinal Tap" references; from reading these posts, Kate just goes through the motions because she HAS to. It's BS. She should realize that the only reason she is there is because of her fan. (Not a typo).
So anything positive to say now? Nope. The only thing she did was have babies 6 at a time. Whoopee. Any one of us could have done that. She will realize soon enough the well is running (if not has run) dry. Bye-Bye Kate.

Jane in California said...

Mystical said:
Thankfully, I have met only one other mom who shared Kate's hateful, greedy, narcissitic characteristics & that was disburbing. Yep, she is a Kate fan in a defensive way! When speaking about Kate, she actually becomes angered like she is talking about & defending her own self.
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Your comment just gave me an "ah ha!" moment. For some (or possibly many) of those who so energetically defend Kate, often stuffing their fingers in their ears and shouting "na na na NA! I can't hear you!" and then turning and responding with a personal attack on the person who was critical of Kate -- it does make sense that they so identify with Kate, that they are actually feeling under attack themselves when anyone dare criticize Kate.

Very interesting insight, thank you.

Jane in California said...

To Church Mouse,

I respect your decision to leave, but please know that your posts will be missed. Maybe sometimes you will drop by just to say hi or offer more of your own personal insight.

I too have been guilty at times of being simply snarky about Kate. However, I will say that this blog has performed (and continues to perform) a valuable service, not only to the Gosselin children, but I hope in future to other children who are thrown to the wolves via their parents putting them on a reality tv show.

What I hope will come from many sources, our voices growing louder from different corners of the web and the world, is that Federal laws must be enacted to protect children who are participants on reality tv shows. Without strict regulations country-wide, we have seen the results first hand. Some parents will allow their children to be exploited all in the name of making money, having fame and attention, and free perks like trips, new clothes, cars, body guards, plastic surgery, appliances, and even a McMansion to call their own. All without any legal requirement that the children who helped bring them this money, etc., will see even one thin dime of it!

So I visit this blog daily and post my thoughts of the moment. Sometimes they are downright snarky and angry towards Kate and TLC, and towards those that would condone this abuse of children. Sometimes I try to offer insight, or merely just my opinion.

This blog was a relief to me when I found it - there were others that were feeling as I did. Why was I feeling slightly sick when watching what used to be a favorite show? Why was I growing more uncomfortable? Was this okay, what was going on here? Finding this blog and the women (and men) who post here was one of the blessings in 2009.

I hope your 2010 is absolutely wonderful. I love how you want to emphasize the positive in your life. Be well, and hopefully you will at least visit from time to time.

zoey said...

Ohhh Ohhh Ohhh.. i have a "positive story" well, sorta!
my husband works at a company that gave some free product to the good old gosselins before the S@*@* hit the fan!
Kate, was kind enough to send an email thanking the company for the product while she demanded MORE of the product to gift to friends.
so, two positive points. Thanking someone and giving.

Jane in California said...

To BabyMama,

As others have already said -- if you have a specific example of Kate being sweet or nice, we would like to hear it.

As others have said - does she volunteer at her children's school? She's at home much of the time, and since she says those children come first, I would imagine she'd want to volunteer once a week in the classroom.

Does she help out at her church, such as organizing a bake sale or rummage sale to raise money?

Does she give of her time freely to any charitable organization at all?

GWOP is a site that receives a lot of hits and comes up near the top whenever you Google Gosselins or Jon & Kate Plus 8. In all the time I've been on this blog, I've never seen anyone come here and post about a face to face experience they've had with Kate that was positive. On the other hand, there are people who have blogged here who are former neighbors, or have otherwise met Kate in person -- who had very negative experiences.

It's fine that you like Kate and think she is nice. You just need to accept the fact that Kate's supporters are greatly outnumbered by those who think she is a terrible mother, wife and human being. Calling all of us names won't change our opinions or the facts (as captured on film).

Melissa said...

Well, Kate and Jon do make pretty babies. Thats a positive.

PA Woman said...

There are other examples also. Of them talking about paying for things they got for free. Just makes me question everything. Seems like this whole thing is just image building from TLC. We saw how Jon's image went to hell after he didn't have the protection of TLC. The true Jon was out there to see. So now what am I to think? Kate still has the full TLC image crew on her side. Who is the true Kate? The one who wrote the check for the free dogs? Or all these people who keep saying they meet her in cafes and she is nasty and demanding and I have been saying are just jealous?"
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Open your eyes people! Kate is no one to admire.
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I went over and read the posts. I get the impression most (at least other then the poster you copied) are blaming it all on TLC. That TLC made Kate sign a check and make it look like they bought the dogs. What did TLC do? Hold a gun to Kate's head? I think she played a role in the charade too.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"As others have said - does she volunteer at her children's school? She's at home much of the time, and since she says those children come first, I would imagine she'd want to volunteer once a week in the classroom."

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Are you kidding me? No way!

Pa Mom Knows said...

"I have friends who had to be around Kate for days while at Disney. NEVER did the words sweet, funny OR nice come up when describing her.

They did, however, when describing Jon."

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Jon may have made some mistakes and may have been misguided in many respects, but he is a very personable, down-to-earth guy. He is funny, and he is nice.

Baby Mama said...

I myself know one neighbor that knows Kate personally. She has nothing but nice words to say about her. They are only allowing my posts to start up another firestorm. I however will not stoop to the nasty level you are starting to show by attacking my comments. You wanted to hear nice things and I am telling you.

I love the fact that you copied and pasted my old posts to prove some kind of point which you did not. Like the time I spent with Kate was any more or less valid by the shortness of time that I met with her.

For the record, the kids for security reasons were not able to stay the season at the Gym mentioned. Any of you that had the real info. would have known that. The kids and the attention that was focused on tem made for a less than positive expierence and that is why they didn't stay.. THAT IS A FACT.

This site constantly attacks Kate and bottom line she is a good mother. It was important that once I was told about this post that appears just to be mocking te fans that are NOT allowed to post here. That I KATES APPARENT #1 fan stepped up to the plate.

silimom said...

Something just hit me as I was reading the news and came across another blurb about Jon. It is such a shame that because if Jon's actions Kate's actions are now forgotten by the majority of the public. I even caught myself today thinking that at least compared to Jon she's not that bad.

I mean there's not really been a lot about her in the press recently. At least she's staying out of the spotlight. Maybe the kids are better off with her.

Then it hit me that that's exactly what TLC wants. They're telling her to lay low, let Jon get all the bad press, let his irresponsibility make her look like the better parent. I know many think that Hailey is on TLC's payroll. I don't think so. But both she and Jon are certainly making the future a brighter place for TLC and Kate. I still think her show will fail but she's won in the court of public opinion and that's what is most important to Kate. What others think of her.

togachris said...

Baby Mama,

I'm sure your encounter with Kate, brief as it was, led you to believe she is a fabulous person. I've come back here for the last couple of days hoping to see that one person has written something that would change my mind but so far... nothing much. I certainly am not the sort to see only the bad in someone and I'm sure the haters you describe in this forum are not either. We are only going on what we've seen and heard, mostly on the show the Gosselins taped in their own home. She herself made all of us form opinions and we are desperate to see the good in her. Will someone who knows Kate Gosselin PLEASE write in and let us know something kind and wonderful she has done for you or someone you know.

As far as the comment about the children not being comfortable in the gym for their gymnastics class... please be more careful when posting here as I'm sure I won't be the only one who comments on this. OF COURSE they were uncomfortable! They were not just children at a fun class... they brought an entire camera crew with them and I'm sure it was a spectacle! Who allowed this? Their mother.

goawayJandK said...

Baby M-

I however will not stoop to the nasty level you are starting to show by attacking my comments.

*** IIRC, your blog is chock full of nasty comments about non-K8 lovers. According to you and your goonies, we are trolls and jellus haters.


For the record, the kids for security reasons were not able to stay the season at the Gym mentioned. Any of you that had the real info. would have known that. The kids and the attention that was focused on tem made for a less than positive expierence and that is why they didn't stay.. THAT IS A FACT

*** I don't doubt for one second that one reason the Gosselin kids couldn't stay was because of the hoopla and disturbance. WHO IS TO BLAME FOR THAT? None other than your BFF Katie Irene.


This site constantly attacks Kate and bottom line she is a good mother. It was important that once I was told about this post that appears just to be mocking te fans that are NOT allowed to post here. That I KATES APPARENT #1 fan stepped up to the plate.


*** And your site constantly puts K8 on a very undeserving and pathetic pedestal. As far as the negative comments about your idol, I tend to call a spade a spade.


I have been on this site for over 2 years ( and I have also seen your pathetic blog, but not in a long time). K8 has had every opportunity to do the right thing and show she has a heart, a soul and an ounce of gratitude and compassion. Thus far ? NOTHING.

Halo24 said...

Baby Mamma: You state that the kids were not able to attend the gym because of security. WELL that's not right or normal. Since the show has ended things are slowly quiteing down. The kids aren't filmed at the bus stop and the So Sugary postings are slowing.

Jon ended the show, but Kate wants to keep it going. WHY? If she is such a good mother like you say? The kids can't be normal and do normal things like attend gymnastics? Or go to the bus without paps?

Kate cares about MONEY. 8 Little money bags. A good mom would end it and let her kids be everyday kids. Kate needs to pay for her lavish life style.

Bella said...

You still didn't answer the question, Baby Mama. People have asked for specific instances, not for you to play "victim."

And I guess therein lies the answer. She has no concrete positive experiences in actuality. They exist most likely in her mind.

livnluv said...

Baby Mama said...
I myself know one neighbor that knows Kate personally. She has nothing but nice words to say about her.
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Baby Mama, can you tell us more about those nice words? What were they, what was the circumstance, what does this neighbor like most about Kate? How well does she know Kate...barely, casual acquaintance, enough to say hi in passing?

I'm not trying to be mean. I'm trying to understand Kate. She's hard to read since she keeps to herself so much. If there's a kinder, gentler side to her and you know people that are impressed by her maybe you could give some insight.

Preesi said...

BabyMama?
The FACT is, that if Kate didnt pimp out and use her kids as her own personal ATM, there would have been NO need to pull them out of GYM for "Security Purposes"!!!

Do you not GET THAT?

Kates ACTIONS in not being a STRONG WOMAN and getting a REAL job that she could support her kids with, FORGOING LUXURIES FOR HERSELF, therefore EXPLOITING her kids is the ENTIRE REASON People KNOW who they are and the ENTIRE REASON they need SECURITY.
And it is the ENTIRE REASON the kids CANT BE NORMAL KIDS!

Do you friggin get it yet?

Also Babymama if you had any FACTS then why didnt Natalie from Us magazine use any of the "FACTS" you so enthusiastically supplied them with?

And lastly if Kate was such a great kind, nice person then why is one of her long time EMPLOYEES unable to quit running her mouth about all the bad things Kate does?

BabyMama you are coming over to GWoP to post with your "facts" about the NICENESS of a woman that you truly know very little about because you REFUSE to acknowledge even a smidgen of truth about her.

You also have no idea what you are up against with GWoP or their knowledge of things.

livnluv said...

Baby Mama said...
For the record, the kids for security reasons were not able to stay the season at the Gym mentioned. Any of you that had the real info. would have known that. The kids and the attention that was focused on tem made for a less than positive expierence and that is why they didn't stay.. THAT IS A FACT.
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Baby Mama, you have just made a very good argument for why these children should NOT be subjected to filming, interviews and media attention. If they weren't so well known they would be able to have MORE than positive experiences and participate in activities like any other child.

MickeyMcKean said...

Baby Mama said...
... For the record, the kids for security reasons were not able to stay the season at the Gym mentioned. Any of you that had the real info. would have known that. The kids and the attention that was focused on tem made for a less than positive expierence and that is why they didn't stay.. THAT IS A FACT.
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Well since you say that it is indeed A FACT, two things crossed my mind:

1. There was a safety issue due to all the cameras being there while the classes were being taught. If this is the case, get rid of the cameramen and their equipment and the other people's children won't need to worry about tripping over camera equipment or being distracted.

2. A special class just for the tups could be arranged, that is, if it was important enough for Kate to inquire about what could be done so her kids could still take classes. I don't see a reason why she and/or a nanny could not be there personally to watch over the children while they were in class.

Assuming of course that Kate could be bothered to take them to the gym without TLC there at the same time. A reminder: it was Leah who went to "Bounce U" on her special day with her parents, as well as she was the most animated in the recent episode about going to gymnastics, therefore I must assume that Leah is crushed that she can't take gymnastic classes and she is clueless as to why.

Perhaps you should define SAFETY - and WHOSE FAULT is it that the children have been exploited to the point that they are now in DANGER?
Answer: Both PARENTS.

Baby Mama, true or false - is the show the reason that their personal safety is now an issue?

If true, does this mean that you are in favor of the Gosselin children hiding in the McMansion until they are adults and/or only able to go out in public as long as they are accompanied with a TLC entourage including bodyguards?

With all due respect, as a mother, do you think that this is a healthy environment for any child?

Now that you can see a downside of being on a reality show where even after the show has ended the kids can't be kids even while taking tumbling classes without jeopardizing their own safety because unknown to them their own parents and TLC have exposed to all the crazy people on this planet who wish them harm, do you honestly want the show to start up again and continue to exploit these 8 children so you can personally be entertained sitting in front of your TV and watching them go to the dentist and/or fight over their toys?

This is JMO but I think it is something for you and all others who want this show to continue to take some time and really think about what HARM it is doing to the children.

Megan said...

@ Baby Mama

Read your own post! If the kids going to a weekly gymnastics class is that big of a security threat, isn't that only further proof that they shouldn't have been (and shouldn't be in the future) on a reality show in the first place?

Please, take off your rose colored glasses!

fidosmommy said...

Baby Mama said....
For the record, the kids for security reasons were not able to stay the season at the Gym mentioned. Any of you that had the real info. would have known that. The kids and the attention that was focused on tem made for a less than positive expierence and that is why they didn't stay.. THAT IS A FACT.

******

Security reasons? Are you kidding me? I thought Steve was there to
guard and protect the family when they were out and about. He can sure protect Kate from people with cameras and autograph papers and unwanted attention, why can't he protect little children
who are being bothered with unwanted attention in a gymnsatics class - where there are staff people around for additional protection?

Protection, my eye. That's a load of hooey. Try again, Baby Mama.
Think about it a little more this time, OK?

And while we're on the subject, the "unwanted attention" is yet another unhappy byproduct of being on a TV show and getting all famous. Kate has done her children no favors. Those children deserve to be able to go to gym class without anybody knowing who they are. Did Miss Katie Irene think of that before she and Jon got their children into this - stopping to think that maybe they couldn't go anywhere
and just be normal little kids?
Another sign of lousy parenting.
No concern for their wellbeing beyond getting free things and lots of cash. A sure loser, she is.

im.in.PR@gmail.com said...

This site constantly attacks Kate and bottom line she is a good mother.

Only is you associate pimping your kids out for money as being "good motherhood."

im.in.PR@gmail.com said...

The kids and the attention that was focused on tem made for a less than positive expierence and that is why they didn't stay..

Oh please, they came in the gym and expected to be treated like the second coming and disrupted the whole gymnasium. If she really wanted her kids to be able to do gymnastics, she would have done it without the cameras and without trying to make all the attention fall on her.

She is an attention vampire and she will cannibalize her kids life and privacy in order to get the attention she wants.

Miss said...

Baby Mama,

Too bad that Kate doesn't feel the same about you as you do about her.

P.S. Unfortunate that you admire some other person so much.Seems that we should all be happy with "self"

You kinda remind me of the lonely little girl that wants to be like the head cheerleader. Only the head cheerleader would probably snub you.

Chronicworld said...

Preesi said:
My friend Leilani has been in and out of Hawai'ian Govt and TV news media for 30 + years and she never got a "Nice or gracious" comment about Kate, but they all did think Jon was super nice (as per the usual)
That's exactly right about Jon being nice.
I'm new to this sort of blogging and I don't want my friend to be indentified or cause any trouble for anyone.
I will say that this friend's occupation at the hotel is in the Spa.
He was doing some spa stuff on Jon, and they had time to talk.
Jon was, in my friend's words, very nervous and clearly upset. He seemed to be a nice man under a lot of pressure.

maggie said...

For the record, the kids for security reasons were not able to stay the season at the Gym mentioned. Any of you that had the real info. would have known that. The kids and the attention that was focused on tem made for a less than positive expierence and that is why they didn't stay.. THAT IS A FACT.
___________

This makes me so sad and so furious. It proves what I and many others have long suspected. Because of the show "Jon and Kate Plus 8", the kids can't possibly have any kind of a normal life. I am so upset about this. A simple experience (like tumbling) that all the kids seemed to love is taken from them because their asshole parents sold their privacy and childhoods for millions. Baby Mama, that doesn't upset you? Their stupid Mother, Kate Gosselin has to go through life with a bodyguard because of the security risk to her and her children. Kate said on her show with Natalie she has one because "alot of people don't like me". The kids must all be filled with fear having security and bodyguards as a part of their family. This must stop. Please somebody with authority help these children.

Type (little) a said...

For the record, the kids for security reasons were not able to stay the season at the Gym mentioned. Any of you that had the real info. would have known that. The kids and the attention that was focused on tem made for a less than positive expierence and that is why they didn't stay.. THAT IS A FACT.

Isn't this the most pathetic thing you've ever heard? The kids can't take gymnastics for safety reasons?

Maybe if their parents had any ambition to earn a living without filming their children on the potty, the 8 could enjoy the "normal" life their parents proclaim to want for them.

my9cats said...

The kids were at the gym for a one-time photo-op. Period.

Two questions: Why on Earth is security needed at the gym? They are just kids; not the royal family. By the ages of 5 and 8 the kids should by now have learned how to behave in public.

It's ridiculous to think that one man can fend off attackers or potential kidnappers of eight rambunctious children and one female.

This brings me to the second question: It's been established the bodyguard is really for Kate. Why does she even need one? After all, Kate keeps saying she's just "a mom".

BM, a lot of us, including you, are "just moms". We don't have bodyguards and we are doing just fine. Our precious kids, including yours have their privacy and are not our meal tickets. (And please don't start with the 'JELLUS', 8 count 'em 8 nonsense. It's tired, trite, and boring).

BM, you can be Kate's #1 fan all you want. If this makes you happy, then so be it. But just remember as you want to be respected for your POV, so do we. Our rose-colored glasses fell off a long time ago.

I feel for you the day you discover your goddess has clay feet. Someday it will come, I have no doubt.

With very best regards......

Brummygirl said...

Baby Mama said:

For the record, the kids for security reasons were not able to stay the season at the Gym mentioned. Any of you that had the real info. would have known that. The kids and the attention that was focused on tem made for a less than positive expierence and that is why they didn't stay.. THAT IS A FACT.
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..and who exactly put these children in a position of danger for their whole lives so far?
Of course it was Jon and Kate but who wants to continue putting her children out there? Why the NOT Mother of the Year Kate Gosselin. Surely in her misguided bubble of stardom there have been some moments when she has thought of predators, kidnappers, crazy fans!!!
If she was truly a good mother, she would step away now from any filming, shows etc and look after her children *on her own* like any other natural mother does.
Eight children is no excuse, you just deal with it, get on with it and do not expect everyone else to supply your needs.
You still have not given us any indication of how she is a good mother. Second hand news from a neighbour just does not cut it.

Help those kids said...

Baby Mama, please tell us some of the nice things Kate's neighbor has to say about her. Be specific. I realize you are a fan of hers and wish to defend her but your posts just say she's great without saying why. Please tell us what you know if you want to defend her. Even if its something small; oftentimes the little things tell a lot about a person. If true, this would be the first positive opinion from any neighbor of hers that I've heard of. Only have heard some positive things about Jon by people in the know. Also, why do you feel she is a great mother?? We haven't seen it; educate us.

Katan the Stupid said...

Baby Mama, you have spent a lot of time and effort supporting Kate Gosselin. While I disagree with many of your opinions, I must say that your blog is well done and shows your dedication to this woman, and to a lesser extent, her kids. My question to you is this: has Kate ever contacted you to thank you for all your efforts? A letter, flowers, email, phone call, anything? She should, given all your hard work that no doubt, has taken time away from your own family. Please enlighten us.

Rose said...

BabyMama said...
"For the record, the kids for security reasons were not able to stay the season at the Gym mentioned. Any of you that had the real info. would have known that. The kids and the attention that was focused on tem made for a less than positive expierence and that is why they didn't stay.. THAT IS A FACT."

I am sure that is a commonly believed statement. But do you think, BabyMama, that those young, innocent children should be subjected to a life where they literally can't even attend gymnastics classes because their presence creates too much of a distraction? Wouldn't you agree that there is something terribly wrong when 5 and 9-year-old children can't walk out of the house or participate in "everyday kid" activities without being hounded and having all eyes fixed on them? What kind of life is it for them when they only get to go on outings that are approved by TLC and documented by their cameras? And if it's this bad for the sextuplets when they are in kindergarten, how bad do you think it will be in a few years, when they hit elementary school, junior high, high school, etc...?

Maybe the kids did get pulled out of gymnastics for the reasons you mentioned, but just stop for a minute and think about how that would make you feel if you were those children. Kate's pursuit of fame and fortune--or, as she puts it, "providing for her kids"--has put them in a situation where they literally aren't allowed to be kids. Crazed fans all over the country see them out and about, and they go nuts. They want to hug them, talk to them, be near them, and so on and so forth. As the years go on, they won't be able to walk into a grocery store without all eyes being on them...and you think that's okay?

There is so much more to the situation than the fact that Kate gets paid big bucks for it and is able to "provide" for her family. The life in a constant fishbowl has and will continue to affect the kids in ways that they will never, ever have any control over. Maybe they'll be able to say that they had the funds to go to college, but they'll never be able to say that they got to be normal kids. That's the real problem. Some of you don't think much about it because you got to live a life away from the constant media and scrutiny, so you don't realize how awful it must be to grow up without that. But it will be the Gosselin kids' reality as they get older.

texas two step said...

Preesi said...
BabyMama?
The FACT is, that if Kate didnt pimp out and use her kids as her own personal ATM, there would have been NO need to pull them out of GYM for "Security Purposes"!!!
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Hallelujah Preach on Preesi!!!!!!!!!!!!

Miss Brown Betti said...

Baby Mama says:
Bottom line Kate is a good mother.
************************************

You have children don't you? Do you:

1.Ignore your constipated child?
2.Deny your child water?
3.Hit them with a wooden spoon?
4.Tempt them with food and then
deny them? (Cupcake gate)
5.Freak out over gum?
6.Take pictures of their poop?
7. Take pictures of their naked
body so millions of people can
see them?
8.Make your children walk with
improper shoes and then yell
at them for complaining when
their feet hurt?
9. Leave your children with a fever
and throwing up while you go out
of town?
10.Lay your sick child on a cold
floor,turn off the lights and
shut the door?

If you do then you are a good mother according to your definition of a good mother.

Suzanne said...

Now, in all fairness, this site does not necessarily draw her fans. You are preaching to the choir. Back in the day, I was a fan of the early shows as were my kids. With the book signing she visited our town. My 11 y.o. daughter handed her a book, and she was kind to her. She commented on the cute Gosselin 6 earrings my daughter fashioned. She asked her name and commented that she too loved the name (of course one of her twins shared it). I was not present, my hubby took her. Back when I was ignorant of all things kate, I found the book interesting. I will give credit where it is due.

Preesi said...

Dear Mickey McKean!
YOU ROCK!

Your post said it ALL!

jasmine said...

Regarding the children not being able to take gymnastic classes, why can't the nanny take them?

If Kate was so concerned about security or safety issues, why does she allow her children to ride a school bus every day with a bus driver?

Mona said...

Oh, I get it now. Baby Mama is pulling our legs. She wants us to think she's a Kate fan, but she's actually giving us ammunition to prove our point.

She's actually telling us that reality TV has made a mess out of the lives of the Gosselin kids. They can't do anything because it's not safe because they are too well known, thanks to parental decisions to put them on TV every week.

Thank you, Baby Mama, for giving us this FACT, because it's quite useful to our cause.

The children are victims, plain and simple. You just told us.

Baby Daddy said...

B.M. said, "This site constantly attacks Kate and bottom line she is a good mother."

By whose yardstick? Someone who posts her own kid's picture on the web for all to see? If you don't respect a child's privacy and their childhood, you just don't get it. I don't know why we're all wasting our breath. You can't teach a pig to sing. The kids on The Jersey Shore have more class and sense than Kate and her #1 fan.

WelcomeBabyMama said...

Baby Mama said:

I love the fact that you copied and pasted my old posts to prove some kind of point which you did not. Like the time I spent with Kate was any more or less valid by the shortness of time that I met with her.
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I didn't copy and paste your old posts to prove any kind of point. I did it to offer the information to the participants on this thread on where you are coming from and what your personal experience with Kate has been. I was in no way trying to invalidate your experience.

Frankly Baby Mama, I find you and your unwavering defense of Kate very odd. You seem to be a person whose life revolves around your family. You appear to be a very involved and committed parent. It is really interesting to me that you would choose someone like Kate to defend and promote. She is the opposite of the values that you portray.

Baby Mama, it is not my blog but I welcome you to GWoP anytime you want to visit and post. I enjoy the conversation and the different points of view. For the most part the participants on this blog are well-mannered and take the time to draft thoughtful posts. We see something different than you and I think that we welcome all different viewpoints and we welcome yours. The majority of us just don't agree with you.

goawayJandK said...

my9cats:

with all due respect, I do not wish to be grouped with Baby Mamma in the "just moms" category.

- I do not pull my child out of school to accompany me as I stalk K8 at book signings

- I do not plan my family's vacations according to where K8 has filmed with the kids

- I do not think K8 is uber organized, "misunderstood" or anything remotely close to being a good mother

- I do not think the Gosselin kids were put on this earth to be paraded around like show ponies for entertainment value

- I do not believe "can do K8" can do ANYTHING (except exploit her children)

- I do not think that parading around town -not to mention being photographed - looking like a tramp is ok for the kids

- I do not think that having a large number of children gives K8 an excuse to be rude, demanding and self serving

I am truly "just a mom", Baby M is not.

toodarnlazy said...

Funny thing, you say the kids were pulled from the gym class because of safety concerns...BULL!

I find it AMAZING that when all the stuff was coming out last spring about Jon and multiple young women...

NO ONE showed up at the sextuplets school. The paps followed Jon to school, but didn't enter the parking lot, there were no gawkers...nothing. They were interested in Jon, not the children.

Kate made a huge stink about the kids not attending graduation because of "safety concerns"...guess what, they came, no concerns...because guess what, people around here don't really give a crap about them. There were no "fans" at the graduation, no crazy people...just parents and relatives of the children graduating.

It's all in Kate's head. She is just too damn lazy to take her kids to gymnastics. AND she won't allow the nanny to do it because then she will look bad.

Boo Kate said...

goawayJandK

BRAVO!!!

Iamuphereyouaredownhere said...

oh, I know Kate and let me tell you she is just lovely. She is very sweet.

Just as long as you know your place and don't speak to her directly.

Kate is on a different level and if you recognize that you get along just fine with her!

Brummygirl said...

I have to say one thing, I am doubtful whether this is really B.M. as I went over to the site and she said she just ignores sites like ours (hate sites) and would not put a link. Nothing was mentioned about her being here. Now I am sure she would have crowed about it. J>M>O>

Preesi said...

Also, BabyMama is saying that she has FACTS, but those FACTS are just TLCs/Kates WORD and press releases. And we all can list the things that TLC and Kate have LIED about.

TLC/Kate have VERIFIABLY LIED. Their statements do not match the facts.

The Philly Magazine article had to triple check their sources and facts before they printed them. Yes Some people on GWoP participated in the sharing of info but guess what?
The fact that an outside source away from GWoP came to the same conclusions of truth as all the "hater" blogs should tell you who is telling the truth here.

BabyMama?
Why did Kate beg her family for money to pay her utiity bills if she had $30,000.00 in the bank?
Why did Kate tell churches they had to scrounge in the couch for mortgage money if they had $30,000.00 in the bank?
Why did Kate say that they had no college money when they STILL to this day have PHONE CALL VERIFIED PA TAP FUNDS?
Why did Kate tell churches that Jon was fired cause of insurance, when in verifiable FACT it was due to him doing side jobs and begging for tv contracts and freebies online on company time?
Why does Kate refuse to answer the question of WHO caused the break up?
Why did Kate lie for so long about having a nanny and other help when MANY people have VERIFIED the existence of the many employees.
Why did Kate take her Speaking Engagement List down off the internet if everything was on the up and up?
I can add to this list on and on and on...

Im not even getting into the long list of contradictory statements on the show...

Why do you continue to believe someone who LIES to you?

ManicNarcissism said...

I just listened to Multiple blessings audio book and Kate mentions that her friend Jamie in Michigan watched the twins at some point when either pregnant with the tups or just had them. So I think this Jamie has been around awhile and before TLC entered the picture.

Rosie5 said...

++++++I have a question... If Kate can take ONE of her kids to Starbucks or Target.. then if the kids can not go to gym because of security, why not just take leah and one sibling to the gym?? then rotate who goes with leah each week. I realize that Kate is all about Kate, but please don't use security as an excuse when we see all kinds of photos of her with ONE child going here there and everywhere

goawayJandK said...

Ok, last post for the night.

Brummygirl - BM is full of BS.

She claims she doesn't read the "hate" sites but mods on different anti-K8 blogs have verified her IP .

She claims that she is considered "the source" when it comes to everything pro-K8 and that the tabloids contact her regularly for info and/or advice.

She has indeed pulled her daughter out of school at least twice to attend book signings. (straight from her blog)

She convinced her husband ( does he have ANY clue about his wife's obsession with K8?) to vacation in San Diego so she could visit Legoland like the Gosselins. (again, straight from her blog)

Etc, etc, etc.

BM is infamous in the Gosselin blogging world. I wouldn't go to her site tho, there are some funky viruses there.

Preesi - FYI I'm a big fan of yours(from another site)

Boo Kate - thanks !

she is evil said...

Baby Mama has given no substancial info besides the "fact" that Kate is funny! She's a great mom! You all just hate her! All hot air with no substance. BM admires Kate and as such, fails to see her awful behavior for what it is. Making excuses for her and blaming the "haters", Jon, the paparazzi are desperate attempts to keep the illusion alive for her. I'm sure she believes what she says. It just seems like such a waste of admiration and affection, but it is her right. I wonder how she can square Kate's treatment of her kids in her head. Forget the freebies, the lies, the manipulations... What gets me is her abuse and destruction of Jon and her cruel treatment of the kids (when she's not ignoring them). How can one admire this person?

my9cats said...

goawayJandK said...

my9cats:

with all due respect, I do not wish to be grouped with Baby Mamma in the "just moms" category."

Excuse me?
With all due respect, IMO you totally misconstrued the point I was trying to make. Let me try and re-phrase:

Kate articulates she is (to use HER phrase), "just a mom" which I take as her misguided attempt to sell herself as being 'one of us'. You know and I know it is not true and insulting to mom's everywhere.

Personally I find it smacks of arrogance and total disdain for the real 'just a mom's' in this world who struggle day to day to provide a home and care for their family. Sometimes as a single parent. These are the real "just a moms", deserving of praise, admiration, and respect.

On a personal note, when my daughter (now 30) was in school I loved every minute being class mom, brownie leader, schlepping her from one ice rink to another at 4AM (well I didn't love the 4AM part) 6 days a week 50 weeks a year so she could pursue her dream.

While doing this I worked and attended college full-time, earning a BS graduating Magna Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa. I've also served as president of various organizations. Right now I train student air traffic controllers on radar.

Having written this what do I consider proudest accomplishment?
Being a loving involved mom and having raised my daughter to be a good citizen and productive member of society. I am and always will be 'just a mom' first and always and am damn proud of it.

BM was included as she is also in Kate's eyes 'Just a mom". I have no doubt she loves her children. My sincere wish is that she'd take a more critical look at who she's investing her adoration in. Kate is just not worth it.

I am sure you are an exemplary mom.
If you misinterpreted my statement I am sorry and hope this clarifies things a little better. BTW if anyone can explain what I am trying to say in a better way, please jump in.

Preesi said...

goawayJandK said...
She claims she doesn't read the "hate" sites but mods on different anti-K8 blogs have verified her IP .



Yeah, I can attest to this directly.
I get 1/3rd my referrals on my site from her and her blog!

I know for a fact that she sockpuppets herself to gang up on haters too.

Boo Kate said...

Yes Kate is a GREAT MOM

G-greedy
R-Rotten
E-Evil
A-A liar
T-Twit

M-More nannies
O-Oh what would I do without nannies
M-MONEY Hungry

Cris said...

I actually think that Kate calling herself "just a mom" is one of the most insightful moments of truth she has ever had.

At this point in her life, that is exactly what and all she is- just a mom.

She tried to be married, but failed and then quit. She tried to have a decent career as a nurse, but quit in favor of fame and notoriety. She tried to be an example on TV for other women, but failed and showed herself to be a complete phony. She tried to be a TV personality, but only proved her lack of talent and character. And finally, she tried to show she was a human being, but failed there as well.

BUT, she did give birth. So that is what she is, albeit awfully- "just a mom".

Shut Up Kate said...

Hippie Chick said...
Talking about book signings...I went to a Joe Hill book signing (Stephen King's son) and he could not have been more gracious.

I have friends that are high profile best-selling authors and from the inside author world, ironically, the nicest authors are usually the ones who write the scariest books. Suspense Thriller authors are also usually fabulous and very gentle and sweet people in front and away from their fans. The scariest ones are the authors of childrens' books. Go figure...

For the Moment? said...

Maybe Kate is not taking the kids to gymnastics because they "don't have a job." I think it was Ellen who asked her (when she was going around begging for the ring) if the kids would get one too and she actually said "when they get a job, then they can get a ring." She is clearly punishing the kids because they are no longer "working." Who's to bet if filming starts back then suddenly will gymnastics. It was something they were all clearly interested in and good at too and it will make for good episodes. That is what their lives evolves around -- episodes. Without the episodes they have no life...so I for one kind of hope they do get filmed again in a limited fashion at least so they can get out of the house and get treated at least half way decent for that period of time.

For the Moment? said...

I too decided to a take a look at BM's blog and agree that it is well done and you can see that a lot of time goes into it. Very dedicated. I do think Kate should recognize her for the work she does and one has to wonder if deep down inside BM does not feel the same and that it may some day come. I also noticed that there was advertising on the site which would be in "agreeance" with the amount of time spent and which I have never seen on GWOP.

Vanessa said...

toodarnlazy,
Do tell more! Do your kids attend the same school? I can totally believe that SHE makes the safety issue AN ISSUE! You're right, it's all in her head! Besides, had she not alienated EVERY SINGLE PERSON in her/the kids lives, she'd have had plenty of help at the graduation. No to mention those people would want to have been there just for the sake of the kids!

For the Moment? said...

Sounds to me like the safety concerns may have been expressed by the gym for the other children and not the "famous" ones and may have had something to do with Kate's attitude in addition to the entourage that accompanied her including the called upon paparazzi, cameras, booms, sound men, director, producer, etc.

Those kids are no more famous than any other kids of celebrities and child actors who live in Hollywood and not PA. I doubt that any of them are denied the opportunity to pursue their interests for "safety" concerns.

Might as well face it Kate is not a soccer mom. She is not taking those kids anywhere unless they are working. She has plenty of help who could very quietly take the kids to gym and they might learn some socials skills and team mangement skills that they desperately need since they are a team unto themselves and not exactly showing a lot team spirit these days.

goawayJandK said...

my9cats:

Thank you for your comments.

I wasn't trying to insult you in any way. I was just trying to make my point that , JMO, someone who spends inordinate amounts of time obsessing about another and also involving her own child(ren) in her obsession is not being "just a mom". Like K8, BM cannot/refuses to see how her actions may be harming her family.

Many here have echoed the same sentiments about BM and the other sheeple. It really is baffling how one can NOT see what a terrible person K8 is.

I am by no means an exemplary mom, but I can honestly say that everything I do, well, except my occasional pedicure LOL, is for my family. Forget the trips and material BS - teaching my kids to be kind, compassionate,honest and hoping they have a happy childhood is MY goal.

Thanks again my9cats. I enjoy your comments.

Katan the stupid said...

The paparazzi and public aren't much interested in the pitiful Gosselin kids beyond seeing if they're being ignored or mistreated by their parents. And the tabloids were only interested in Jon and Kate when their marriage fell apart, much like the hoopla Tiger and Elin Woods are experiencing now (with dignity, unlike the Gosselins). The kids aren't interesting beyond their sheer mass; no one is paying attention to the individual kids. And it is Kate who has made them a spectacle by parading them about with bodyguards and cameras and paid paparazzi in tow. They could go to gymnastics, etc if Kate only approached it like a responsible, sane, non-attention seeking parent. She values the attention, positive and negative, over her kids' happiness, innocence, and safety. Thank goodness we aren't being subjected to many pictures of them lately; it just made me cringe. Every picture involving the kids just smacked of photo op instead of Kate getting caught living life. Those kids are mere pawns to her. Bottom line, Kate is a horrid mother.

I call it as i see it said...

Re: Baby Mama at the book signing May 5. 2009 at Tribeca Barnes and Nobles NYC...

I am not sure why all of you are surprised that Baby Mama supports Kate despite her many lies...that is because BM is a writer of fiction herself!!!

I was at the NYC booksigning on the above stated date. Baby Mama was FIRST IN LINE...she got there before anyone else! She bought the maximum number of items so she could spend as much time with Kate as possible. HOWEVER, this is the important part...she was NOT ACCOMPANIED by her daughter. She was with another woman who took pictures...and there was no camera flub. Baby Mama photoshopped pictures adding her daughter into the shots with Kate. I wrote this on this blog at the time. The size and height of her daughter next to Kate does not add up due to the fact Kate was up on a pedestal (yes, that is right) and Baby Mama's child would not reach up to her as she does in the picture. Kate spent as much time with her as she did with anyone else. I believe BM said a few words to her as she signed her many, many items.

I recognized BM because I used to follow her blog. She used to have a half picture of her face on her blog. She was defintely first on line...I recognized her. The only difference was she had her hair dyed blonde now like Kate. After I wrote this on here about Baby Mama lying did she remove the photo of herself from her blog.

KatyKat said...

@ Baby Mama,

OH MY GOD! You pull your kids out of school to go to Kate events?

I pull mine out to go see the workings of the Panama Canal.

AIM HIGHER, WOMAN!

Preesi said...

Baby Mama? If you know Kate SOOO well WHAT was Kate doing in Los Angeles, California shortly after they moved into the McMansion?
Do you remember when Im talking about?
Im talking about the time frame where on the show all the boxes were still all unpacked and all over the house?

Do you know?

SafetyTrain said...

Baby Mama said........For the record, the kids for security reasons were not able to stay the season at the Gym mentioned. Any of you that had the real info. would have known that. The kids and the attention that was focused on tem made for a less than positive expierence and that is why they didn't stay.. THAT IS A FACT.
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Ding ding ding!!! THANK YOU for bringing this point up Babymama. This is EXACTLY the reason why people wanted this show to end because it was unnecessarily complicating the lives of these poor kids. The attention that this show has generated, all because of these two insane fame and money-hungry parents, has not been fair to these children who deserve a private and normal life. In the interest of the childrens safety, any responsible parent would have pulled the plug on this circus a long time ago. Screw trips, freebies, million dollar houses, new cars, plastic surgeries, hot black four inch heels, guest hosting talk shows and other "once in a lifetime" opportunities - I wouldn't put my children in a position to have to grow up looking over their shoulders for crazed perverts and outrunning people with cameras. Babymama - what do you think these kids teen years will be like? Going to the movies with friends? Playing sports? Learning to drive? Going to the prom? They'll practically need Secret Service protection for heaven's sake. Even well-meaning fans who pose no threat to the kids can make their lives hard by constantly paying attention to them. And how do you think the kids will feel when their peers begin teasing them because there's video out there of them being potty trained, bathed, dressed, and reprimanded? That day will come quickly now that they are in school. And you still think that their childhoods and privacy should continue to be compromised so strangers can sit back and watch a damn tv show?

If nothing else, congrats on figuring out why this site exists.

bullet875 said...

I just don't get the blind adoration for someone that you don't even know! I have famous friends, and a few very close friends who are very well-known, and if they do something wrong I will call them out on it. A very close celeb friend made me angry two years ago and I haven't
spoken with him in quite awhile because I'm still mad at him!

I don't know how much money they make, what movies they have been in or songs that they have sung, I don't go to their concerts or movies, whee they go on vacation, because they are my friends and that's all I care about them. I care about THEM, not their celebrity.

Oh yes, I also don't sell them out to the tabloids or feed info to gossip columns. And,I don't drop names. Maybe that's why we're friends?

I just don't get BM and her minions. I'd be darned if I'd spend my life chasing around a psuedo celeb instead of living MY LIFE. If I were K8 , BM would creep me out...kind of like a stalker.

chesterctymom said...

Baby Mama said...

Like the time I spent with Kate was any more or less valid by the shortness of time that I met with her.



Creepy.

Etownmom2 said...

I contacted Baby Mama personally when she slandered our neighborhood and had email exchanges with her. Since me and another family are the only direct neighbors and I know their position, I guess I am the neighbor she now knows personally.
I sent her an article from a minister in the neighborhood on how this family is exploiting the children (his position was that they weren't seeing what TLC and fame was doing to them and we need to pray for the whole family). That article was Walt Muellers which you can read attached to the site- Truth Breeds Hatred. I tried, like some of you are doing, to talk rationally and objectively -- SHE emailed me that I was a nasty neighbor and to not contact her site any longer.

There is just no way to candy coat child exploitation and I disagree with her assessment but she has, as she tried to deny me, the right to say it.

PA Woman said...

For the record, the kids for security reasons were not able to stay the season at the Gym mentioned. Any of you that had the real info. would have known that. The kids and the attention that was focused on tem made for a less than positive expierence and that is why they didn't stay.. THAT IS A FACT.
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I know several have already commented on this, but I have to say something here. This makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever! A gymnastics studio is private property. It is easy enough to keep the press on any other on-looker out! Hey, all they would have to do is lock the door when the class is in session. And, with 8 kids any school would be willing to setup private classes for just the 8 Gosselin kids, although personally I think the interaction with other other children would be good for them. Why are there no similar security concerns when the twins play soccer and that is Outside?? Sorry, this explanation is just totally illogical.

However, I am one that thinks everyone has some good points. BM, if you really know a neighbor of Kates who can provide a story showing kates "better side" I'd be happy to hear it. I don't know of any such examples that haven't been staged by TLC.

Rose said...

I wish you would comment more, BabyMama, and provide actual examples that defend your position. As another poster before me has written, most of us are respectful and are not out to attack anyone whose opinions are different. I, for one, get upset when I comment on a John and Kate Plus 8 video on youtube and am immediately attacked by some Kate supporter who calls me names and completely shoots down my opinion. Even after having posted my thoughts on the topic for so long, I still haven't quite gotten used to that. Again, I don't like when that happens to me, so I wouldn't do it to someone else just because their opinions didn't match mine. I might not always agree with them, but as long as they had a valid argument, I would at least listen, and I would always be respectful.

The truth is, BabyMama, the vast majority of the people here just want something REAL and SUBSTANTIAL that answers the original question: What has Kate done specifically that makes her a great mother and person?

You aren't going to be judged based on your opinions. What causes a "firestorm," as you've put it, is the fact that you use words like "sweet," "friendly," and a "wonderful person" to describe Kate, but you don't tell us why. You put up barriers and make excuses about how we wouldn't listen anyway, and that's not true. If you could provide even just one or two strong, concrete examples, it might not necessarily change the differing opinions that certain people have about her, but it will at least help us respect what you have to say. We would at least see that you have a voice, are willing to express it, and most importantly, are prepared to defend it. Heaven knows that we aren't afraid to express what we feel on this blog, so why should you hold back from doing the same?

We've seen and heard the negative stuff about Kate, and despite what you may think, we DO want to hear something good about her. Anything. It's just that tossing out a few positive adjectives without elaborating isn't going to cut it. So, BabyMama, if you really see a quality person in Kate Gosselin and have true, first-hand experiences to share, then PLEASE do. You appear to be a person who wants to defend your side of the story, but your continued silence suggests the exact opposite. Don't be silent. Make us understand.

PA Woman said...

im.in.PR@gmail.com said...
The kids and the attention that was focused on tem made for a less than positive expierence and that is why they didn't stay..

Oh please, they came in the gym and expected to be treated like the second coming and disrupted the whole gymnasium. If she really wanted her kids to be able to do gymnastics, she would have done it without the cameras and without trying to make all the attention fall on her.

She is an attention vampire and she will cannibalize her kids life and privacy in order to get the attention she wants.

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Same with the Statue of Liberty. Yes, the kids were so disappointed they couldn't go after Jon stopped the filming. So it never occured to Kate she could take them there WITHOUT the cameras? Are these children never allowed to leave the house without a TLC camera in tow? What a sad childhood, and whose fault is that??

ByMe said...

BabyMama:

Thank you for your posts. I hope by the reception you received here you don't quit posting. Its nice to understand why fans adore Kate Gosselin.

BabyMama the dynamic is that she (Kate) was a frumpy flag girl who never did anything right and could not even get along with her own family. She discovered that her vagina could make her special...all these pathetic trumps think that when they have a baby they are special. She took it to the extreme and put herself so high above the world that she really thinks she is a miracle on earth. Not the kids. Not Jon. Her.

Andrea Murdock said...

LOL. I literally laughed out loud after reading the reposting of Baby Mama's posts. Are you kidding me? Who does she think she is? Does she really believe that people think she actually met Kate AND (and this is a big AND) Kate actually took the time to feel sorry for her after her camera failed to work??? Hilarious. Nice try Baby Mama, but your posts ring true like a guy submitting his first story to Playboy. :) :)

Mona said...

Where is our friend on this board
who got knocked into the shelving at Target by Kate, and Kate said nothing but just kept pushing her cart. I'm sure she would question the nice and kind attributes ascribed to Kate.

Kate is a Creepette said...

Baby Mama do you take pictures of your children NAKED and allow strangers to see them?

Jane in California said...

I call it as i see it said...

Re: Baby Mama at the book signing May 5. 2009 at Tribeca Barnes and Nobles NYC...

...snip...

I was at the NYC booksigning on the above stated date. Baby Mama was FIRST IN LINE...she got there before anyone else! She bought the maximum number of items so she could spend as much time with Kate as possible. HOWEVER, this is the important part...she was NOT ACCOMPANIED by her daughter. She was with another woman who took pictures...and there was no camera flub. Baby Mama photoshopped pictures adding her daughter into the shots with Kate.

* * * *

Words nearly fail me. If true, there is something so out of kilter about this particular situation. First, that anyone would be such a super fan of Kate Gosselin, of all people! And then to photoshop your own child into a picture with her -- something ain't right!

Texas Two Step said...

Etownmom2 said...
I contacted Baby Mama personally when she slandered our neighborhood and had email exchanges with her.......I tried, like some of you are doing, to talk rationally and objectively -- SHE emailed me that I was a nasty neighbor and to not contact her site any longer.
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Honey are you sure BabyMama isn't Katan herself, cause that reply you got sounds like something straight out of the Katan Playbook.....
That or her twitly side kick Jamie....

PA Woman said...

Etownmom2 said...
I contacted Baby Mama personally when she slandered our neighborhood and had email exchanges with her.
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Now, this I find totally unfair. Anyone who would put up with film crews in their neighborhood needs to be given the benefit of the doubt. The parking of vechicles alone is a nusance not to say what the filming (especially outdoors) will do.

I've never understood how what is clearly a commercial activity was allowed by the city in a residential neighborhood. Even if Kate is a saint, no one would be happy having TLC next door every week.

konspiracytheory said...

@ Jane in California:

Regarding the NYC appearance - I wasn't there so I have no idea if BM's daughter was with her or not, but I have seen the picture of her daughter 'with' Kate and it's hysterical - it screams 'I've been photoshopped'. My assumption has been that she did have her daughter with her, but she was treated like everyone else and herded through the 'meeting' so quickly that she didn't have the time to take a real picture of her daughter and her idol (together at last...).

The picture might still be on BM's site - I visited her blog a couple of times many months ago, but it caused my computer to crash, so I wouldn't advise looking for the picture there if you care about your computer!

bullet875 said...

chesterctymom said...

Baby Mama said...

Like the time I spent with Kate was any more or less valid by the shortness of time that I met with her.



Creepy.
____________________________________

Exactly. Just because you have met someone in public doesn't mean that you "know" them. I met a well-known female rap artist years ago at our local Six Flags park. She had just gotten off of a ride and was coming down the exit way. My family and I were in line for the ride and she stopped and asked us how we were and if we were having a good time. We spoke for several minutes. I didn't even have a clue as to who she was until two girls behind us nearly swooned and told us.

So, have I met this person ? Yes. Do I "know" her? No. Was she nice to me? Yes. Is she nice in her everyday non-professional life? I have absolutely no idea.

You honestly cannot judge people in the entertainment biz by meeting them in public for a very short period of time. They are TRAINED extensively, as someone else on the board said, how to be kind and nice and gracious in public by their studios, managers, publicists, etc. What they are in their private lives is anyone's guess.

I hate to tell BM this, but I'll betcha that Queen Kate went home and either laughed with her staff about the weirdo who she met at the book signing, or expressed fear of her. If she didn't, then I'd be suspect about Kate's mental stability.Poeple lie this can be very scary to publi figures and celebs because you never know what they may do to you.

It is also odd that she would photoshop her child into a pic with Kate. I don't understand that one at all...

Just sayin'....

Pa Mom Knows said...

I'm wondering if there are certain die-hard fans who seem to be in the know and claim to have been in personal situations with her also know that there is a "watch list" containing the name or names of persons who should be carefully guarded and/or scrutinized.

Hippie Chick said...

KatyKat said...

OH MY GOD! You pull your kids out of school to go to Kate events?

I pull mine out to go see the workings of the Panama Canal.

AIM HIGHER, WOMAN!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I came thisclose to falling off my chair!! Thank you for the laugh!

goawayJandK said...

I call it :

If your comments are true then BM is even more disturbed than I thought. Actually pulling her daughter out of school is better than not and saying she did with a fake picture as "proof".

And, I know the blog picture to which you are referring. BM looks like Kathy Najimi peeking out from behind (Beth's book)Multiple Blessings.

dustilies said...

Andrea Murdock said,

Does she really believe that people think she actually met Kate AND (and this is a big AND) Kate actually took the time to feel sorry for her after her camera failed to work??? Hilarious. Nice try Baby Mama, but your posts ring true like a guy submitting his first story to Playboy. :) :)

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Okay, I've stopped giggling well enough to be able to type.

Jane in CA, and others, yes something does she terribly strange about Baby Mama's lies. The 'sense'
is in the fact that BM has woven a fantasy relationship with KG. Happens a lot with celebrities. Basically, you get to tell stories about how important and special you are because an important and special person pays attention to you.

Baby Mama,
I hope you realize that you need some kind of counseling. You'll be happier when you accept yourself for who you are. You will find inner peace when you stop lying--and even more when you stop feeling the urge to fabricate and embellish your stories.

So you don't really know Kate's neighbor. So Kate treated just as a paying fan, not a BFF. So you didn't bond over having the same camera. So what?

Also, please keep your kid in school, so at least she will know that ditching class is "hookey" not "hookie."

PA Woman said...

I hate to tell BM this, but I'll betcha that Queen Kate went home and either laughed with her staff about the weirdo who she met at the book signing, or expressed fear of her. If she didn't, then I'd be suspect about Kate's mental stability.Poeple lie this can be very scary to publi figures and celebs because you never know what they may do to you.
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I have a friend that is a moderately well known singer. I have watched her when she is giving autographics and doing pictures after a show. I've watched her meet and greet for 3 hours just because she does care about her fans. But, there are a couple of fans that are always trying to send her messages etc, and for various reasons I won't get into she is honestly afraid of them. But, she still gives them a hug, takes a picture, and talks with them when she sees them. You would never know her true feelings. It's how you greet the public.

Etownmom2 said...

To PA Mom - I can answer your question on filming in a residential neighborhood -- we were misinformed and ignorant -- we thought that they HAD to have the appropriate paperwork to be here. We have since found out, they did not but when they were here we ALL believed that they must have been following the laws. They, I guess believe they were filming a documentary and didn't need the paperwork, I disagree - vehemently and I am saving my personal accounts for when the PA Dept of Welfare ever gets around to this case. With regard to the Texas writer - yes I'm sure Baby Mama is her own person and not Kate in disguise. There are many things the children did for the filming of the show and were not part of their daily experiences, not just the gymnastics. Some examples is keeping up with the recycle bins on the organic show, music lessons, playing piano, they gymnastics bus came once. The opposite was true with Kate - The film crew had things all set so Kate could come out and appear she was participating. I am not asking anyone to understand because even seeing it was hard to believe.

im.in.PR@gmail.com said...

Same with the Statue of Liberty. Yes, the kids were so disappointed they couldn't go after Jon stopped the filming. So it never occured to Kate she could take them there WITHOUT the cameras?

That weekend in question, she took Steve to NYC with her....but she couldn't take her kids to the Statue of Liberty?

KatyKat said...

@ Baby Mama,

"Like the time I spent with Kate was any more or less valid by the shortness of time that I met with her."

Back in the early 1990s, I spent about 10 mins. w/ Princess Diana and her boys while they were at Disney. (She WAS very sweet and gracious).

Anyway, having met her no more puts me in line for the royal throne than your spending 2 mins. with Kate makes you her friend. She only remembers you because you won't go away. You don't mean squat to her. Be the #1 fan of your FAMILY.

You remind me of Unity Mitford who stalked Hitler and wanted to bask in his company, and YOU are probably the reason she feels the need for security.

Two clueless idiots said...

I call it as i see it said...

Re: Baby Mama at the book signing May 5. 2009 at Tribeca Barnes and Nobles NYC...
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I agree with the previous poster...I am left speechless by this! Thanks for providing some much-needed insight into what you witnessed. Bizarre doesn't even begin to describe the dichotomy between what you saw and what she apparently reported on her site (going by the quotes here...). I don't know anything about BM, but this is just bizarre.


So, based on my original request, we have a 2-3 (one questionable!) moderately positive encounters at book signings - i.e. publicity events where people essentially paid (by purchasing pictures or books) to see Kate. I believe we also have an equal number of reports of negative encounters from book signings. So, we'll call that one a draw for now. HMMM...I wish I were surprised, but I'm not.

my9cats said...

goawayJandK said...

my9cats:
snipped

I enjoy your comments too. Sometimes it's hard to put in writing that which is easier to speak. Especially at 1 in the morning lol. Just couldn't sleep.
After all I have 9, count 'em 9 cats! You wouldn't want to walk in my shoes. Icky hairballs from the 3 male cats.

Anyhoo I think what I was trying to bring out is regardless of how high BM thinks she's on the Kate food chain, she is still 'just a mom'. You know, who Kate claims to be, but isn't, and ignores those who are.
The last thing I wanted was to have a tiff with someone on a board I really love. Friends???
Hugs.....

Mrs. Kisses said...

Remember when we thought Kate Gosselin was the most delusional person involved with J&K+8?

Two words for Kate and her BFF (Biggest Freaking Fan):
Delusions Anonymous.

katan the stupid said...

Why must tlc and sheeple like BM defend Kate and try to make us see that she isn't a horrible person? Why can't Kate just behave with manners, grace, and dignity with the public and with love and affection for the kids (and Jon, too)? Why is this impossible for Kate to do? Isn't that what normal nice people do? BM, you may be well intentioned, but Kate is not worthy of your adoration. You shouldn't have to defend her, don't you see? She should just be a good person and a loving mom and the rest would fall into place

Brummygirl said...

Oh my....inserting your child's photo or even yourself into anyone else's image, is really, really weird.
It reminds me of some of the t.v. programs where a stalker has photos of their stalkee pasted everywhere!!
Talk about creepy fans!!!

jasmine said...

"Positive" encounters at book signings, paid autograph signings, paid speaking engagements/appearances, love offerings, soliciting and receiving free donations, don't count. Keep the line moving, Next!

I call it as i see it said...

I have absolutley no reason to lie about Baby Mama. At the time I attended the booksigning in NYC I was on the fence about Jon and Kate. I used to think Kate was superwoman but was growing mighty suspicious that something wasn't kosher there. I had been reading both this blog and BMS as well as Preesi's case. I had decided to go see for myself. And yes, I was dissapointed and so were two other attendees I spoke to after getting our books signed. When I got to the booksigning there was only 14 people there. This was 15 minutes before the event was to start. At starting time, there was about 50 max as a very large group of college aged girls poured in together. Baby Mama(I already explained how I recognized her) was first on line (I believe on her original blog post she stated she ran in late and got Kate's VIP treatment). She was with another Soccer Mom type. She was trying to talk up the PR people waiting to start the event as she was first in line. I could not hear what they were saying. When Steve Neild came out and was standing there she and her friend I believe made a comment or two to him as well. He was standing near the side of the desk (his usual perch). But one thing I know for sure is that her daughter was not with her and that there was no camera trouble. I also know she bought the max number of items to be signed and that she was speaking to Kate as Kate signed the books and DVDs she bought. When she was finished it appeared she left the event. I did not see her again in the store after she was done. I also do know that the table with Kate was definitely on a pedestal and that the photo with her daughter had to be photoshopped cause the girl would never reach up as high as she did in BMs fake pic.

LisaNH said...

Well, I have to put my two cents in here. I've been following this thread for a few days.

While I do have to give BM some credit for posting on here, I do have an observation about her commnets. She seems very defensive from the start. While I understand that may be because she's in the minority here, but perhaps if her tone were more reasonable and less defensive perhaps even less abraisive, it would make her seem less obsessed.

She's a fan of Kate. That's fine, no one takes issue with that. I'm not here (as I'm sure are great deal of people here) trying to "convert" anyone to not be a fan. I think what we take issue with is putting this woman on the "Greatest Mom Ever" pedastal. She does not give any concrete "facts" on Kate being a great mom.

My husband happens to be a fan of a famouns political family. I am not, not have I ever been (I grew up near where they lived and the locals knew all about their shenanigans so no one really respected them.). But I never try to change his mind about his opinion about this family and he never tries to change mine. It is what it is. He never calls me a "hater" or accuses me of being "jellus" or says "But they had 10 kids!!"

goawayJandK said...

my9cats (count em 9!)

OMG, I didn't think of our discussion as a tiff at all.

Comments, questions, clarifications, "agreeance" . It's all good !

GoPoshGo said...

Brummygirl said...
It reminds me of some of the t.v. programs where a stalker has photos of their stalkee pasted everywhere!!

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Okay, if all of these reports of BM's lunacy are true, I take back everything snarky I've ever said about The Boobyguard (except that one), and retract any questioning of why Kate is accompanied by Steve at every public appearance. Clearly BM is crazy-obsessed with Kate -- and I think history has demonstrated that these types of fans are the most dangerous, even for d-listers like Kate.

It seems that BM has (in addition to a very unfortunate moniker) what's called in the jargon of my field a "parasocial relationship" with Kate: a one-sided "relationship" whereby one person knows a lot about his/her target and feels like he/she *really knows* the target. The target usually has little to no awareness that the infatuated one even exists. BM sounds like a textbook case. Even worse, she seems to fall on the obsessed end of the spectrum, which can lead to all sorts of crazy behavior if it goes too far.

If BM is for real, Kate DOES need a bodyguard to keep that crazy b*tch at arm's length -- heck, I think TLC should spring for one for Steve, too (because, let's face it, he can't be expected to fend off BM while he's carrying Kate's purse and hauling her dry cleaning).

BTW, crazy fans or not, I still think she's boinking him. ;)

LisaNH said...

GoPoshGo said...
Brummygirl said...
It reminds me of some of the t.v. programs where a stalker has photos of their stalkee pasted everywhere!!

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Okay, if all of these reports of BM's lunacy are true, I take back everything snarky I've ever said about The Boobyguard (except that one), and retract any questioning of why Kate is accompanied by Steve at every public appearance. Clearly BM is crazy-obsessed with Kate -- and I think history has demonstrated that these types of fans are the most dangerous, even for d-listers like Kate.

It seems that BM has (in addition to a very unfortunate moniker) what's called in the jargon of my field a "parasocial relationship" with Kate: a one-sided "relationship" whereby one person knows a lot about his/her target and feels like he/she *really knows* the target. The target usually has little to no awareness that the infatuated one even exists. BM sounds like a textbook case. Even worse, she seems to fall on the obsessed end of the spectrum, which can lead to all sorts of crazy behavior if it goes too far.

If BM is for real, Kate DOES need a bodyguard to keep that crazy b*tch at arm's length -- heck, I think TLC should spring for one for Steve, too (because, let's face it, he can't be expected to fend off BM while he's carrying Kate's purse and hauling her dry cleaning).

BTW, crazy fans or not, I still think she's boinking him. ;)

1/05/2010 6:28 PM
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Kind of like the movie "All About Eve" don't you think?

marylou said...

@I call it as i see it

I want to tell you how much I appreciate your telling us about your first hand experience at the book signing. I find it very enlightening. I find anyone who has had a first hand's experience welcome information since the rest of us just see, hear, and read things.

All of you with first hand experience, continue to report! The curious want to know.

goawayJandK said...

GoPoshGo-
Ha! Your post made me laugh out loud.

LisaNH, ByMe, Rose:
I can only speak for myself , and it's not to be argumentative, I just want to clarify my position regarding BM.

I think opposing views, discussions and debate is healthy and entertaining, for the most part. However, when I have invested my time writing letters/emails to various sponsors, boycotting products advertised on the show, sending letters to government agencies, sending a little $ to Paul Petersen's cause, etc, etc to STOP THE EXPLOITATION of the Gosselin kids, I cannot read comments from someone like BM without responding in a not-so-nice manner. I see it from a very black and white perspective :

support of K8 & the show = support of a horrible person and support of child exploitation

If you, BM want to continue in your delusional world, that's unfortunately your choice and your family will suffer for it, if they already haven't. BUT, do not come to a site that is clearly not supportive of the show or parents who pimp their own children and expect a warm reception, at least from me, anyway.

Ok, rant over.

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