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JJ in WA said...

I see she is still yanking her little puppets by the arm-so sad :(

Pa Mom Knows said...

"I see she is still yanking her little puppets by the arm-so sad :("

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It looks to me like she is holding his wrist to help him into the car.

Brummygirl said...

Apart from how bad the extensions are, I think she made a big mistake with this, because she is unrecognisable now. Queen Kate may find herself passed by unnoticed and we all know she craves the limelight.

Jane in California said...

What the heck is it with Kate and holding her children's hands up so that their arm is fully raised?

Brummygirl - I think you may be right. This is a bit of a reach, but does anyone remember Jennifer Grey in Dirty Dancing? She's Joel Grey's daughter and when she filmed that movie, she had her original nose. For some reason, she got a nose job after that, and it made her bland, unremarkable and just another pretty face in the crowd.

For Kate, her spiky do with the flap in the front, while fun to mock, was also her trademark. Now, she blends in with every other 30-something woman trying to hang onto her 20's with the long blond locks and too tight jeans.

Of course, once she opens her yap and starts screeching, voice recognition will kick in.

MissPiggyHair said...

She looks like an idiot with that hair style. Charlie's Angel you ain't.
She is just a joke. Plain and simple. You can't take her seriously at all.

fidosmommy said...

Pa Mom Knows said...
"I see she is still yanking her little puppets by the arm-so sad :("

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It looks to me like she is holding his wrist to help him into the car.

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Sorry, but I don't see how that is helping him get into the car. His balance would be off with his arm overhead like that and he would have to go where her arm lets him go instead of using both arms to balance himself. It would seem easier to me to just let him climb in on his own or better yet, provide a stepstool for them to get in and out safely.

Lauren said...

I see the wooden spoon is not in the door pocket.

TUNDRA said...

Looking at Kate's hair from this angle it almost looks like she is wearing a wig. Is it possible reports of Kate "hating" her hair extensions are true and she has secretly had them removed? Who knows but nothing Kate does is for real - it's all for effect. Even picking up those poor kids at the bus stop looks staged. Oh wait. It is. Kate is wearing high heels and no hat. Showtime!

cossysmom said...

They've had this van for how long now?? The little ones are 5 years old now...why not get a small step stool that can be tucked into the van and would allow the kids to climb in on their own. Why does she insist on treating them like babies?? I would think it would be easier for the twins too. They might like to have a little dignity when getting in the van.

I agree Kate made a mistake with this hair. I wasn't even sure it was her in the picture. If she wants to continue her "fame" she should keep the short hair but maybe a tamer style. A more gradual change to longer hair would be more recognizable.

Ohio Buckeye said...

This is the first picture I've seen of Clean Slate Kate's new tresses, except for her face on "People" intruding into my grocery shopping time, as I stood in the cashier line.

What? Is she trying to recapture her pre-Jon days with this look? A time before she exposed to an entire viewing populace just how mean spirited and egocentric she is?

Too much water under that bridge, Katie Irene.

That ship has sailed (into The Sea of Multiples).

To sum up for you, SweetCheeks, Too little, too late.

T

Kathy in Florida said...

I am not sure how she is helping him, but maybe she's helping lift him since he's little, but you know, regardless of my feelings about K, she is the one helping the kids into the car while her ex husband is shacking up with a 25 year old....

Texas Two Step said...

What's with the hooker heels to drop your kids off at bus stop??? Being in TX big hair country, where the ladies like to ensure a good appearance, I do NOT see any other mom's dropping off in high heels unless they are dressed in their business attire for their JOBS that they go to after dropping off the kiddo's.....arrgghhhh

hold the coat said...

Her reptilian claw is definitely around his wrist. But look closely - he's also holding a jacket in the hand she's hanging onto. IMO - it looks like he could trip over the coat getting into the car - WHY isn't she holding his coat for him????

PS - we'll always know it's kate by her hooker heels.

maggie said...

The following is the transcript from the Joy Behar Show where Joan Rivers blasts Kate Gosselin. It's Great.

BEHAR: What do you feel about these women that have like eight children, seven children?

RIVERS: Stay home and take care of them.

BEHAR: Yes.

RIVERS: What is that stupid ass`s name?

BEHAR: Which one?

RIVERS: The eight.

BEHAR: The octomom? Kate Gosselin.

RIVERS: You have children, stay home. That -- and on the road, who got eight children that came out of your big womb? I think, oh, can you imagine the echo when she goes to the bathroom?

BEHAR: Oh my God!

(CROSSTALK)

RIVERS: She must use a roll of toilet paper for ...

(LAUGHTER)

RIVERS: Stay home at take care of them.

BEHAR: From her point of view, I`ll play her part for a second. She`d say, I think she would say, I have to make a living to support these because the husband is an a-hole.

RIVERS: Yes, and she`s not. I think -- and she said to "People Magazine," major psychiatric help that she needs.( She was referring to the 8 kids--not Kate) So, I suggest, she`s stay home, let them learn that you are mommy. I find this outrageous that people have these kinds of children and use them as a career move.

BEHAR: Did you stay home when you were on the road when Melissa .

RIVERS: Well, I tried to have eight children, doubled my career.

BEHAR: When you were aware, weren`t you?

RIVERS: I drove through the night to be with her, as I`m sure you. I did things -- to this day, I take my book and I`m not a wonderful parent, but I take my book and I go, that`s it, that`s grandma week. That`s my week with Melissa. Don`t even come to me and tell me there`s a -- no your family first.

BEHAR: That`s right.

RIVERS: Do you know and we are getting serious here, we should -- when we had dinners in California at 6:00, the phone stopped and my husband and I sat down and ate every night with Melissa. Every night. And if we had a dinner date, we went out after dinner.

jojo said...

I help my little ones into and out of the car all the time. They are small, the car is big. C'mon, lets keep the criticism legitimate. She is obviously helping the child here. Rant on her hair all you want, but this one is off base.

Totally Agree said...

I totally agree about the hair and coincidentally, I thought of Jennifer Grey as well. Kate is almost unrecognizable (and not in a good way). Looks like a wanna-be, low-brow, vanilla nobody. As much as we joked about her possum head, it was unique and identified her in an odd way. To me, this looks like an unkempt wig. I believe (and hope) this seemingly minor change to Clean Slate Kate will hasten her trip towards anonymity and invisibility. Bad move for a media hound.

itsaboutthekids said...

Every week Jon comes home for several days for visitation with the kids. Where does Kate go during this time? Beside to a hotel to get hair extensions...

2badsosad said...

regardless of my feelings about K, she is the one helping the kids into the car while her ex husband is shacking up with a 25 year old....

J & K are DIVORCED. Perhaps the reason Kate is the ONE helping the kids in to the car on THIS PARTICULAR DAY is simply because it is Kate's day/week to pick up the children. That's how divorce works. Even in Gosselinland!

Rose said...

Kathy in Florida said...
I am not sure how she is helping him, but maybe she's helping lift him since he's little, but you know, regardless of my feelings about K, she is the one helping the kids into the car while her ex husband is shacking up with a 25 year old....

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Ah, yes, and Kate herself will be the very first one to tell you just that. If she was filming the show right now, she'd be on that couch lamenting about how she has to butter the bread for the kiddos, make their lunches, and get them in and out of the car all by herself...such a poor, victimized single mom. Woe is she. Funny, though, how we never see her actually playing with them, isn't it?

I'm sorry, but personally, I can't stand when people say that at least Kate is with the kids and being a mom to them while Jon is off hanging out with young 20-something girls. She may be going through all the "mom" motions, but she's trying to revitalize her career and make people believe she's a struggling single parent to those eight children. She's got an agenda that's completely separate than just being there for her children and being a good mother when nobody's looking. (And that's the kicker: she'll do it when she feels like somebody's watching and praising her for it.) She acts like she's such a little trouper, doing all that parenting work alone that MILLIONS of people around the world do every second of every day, and with much less recognition and fewer freebies than Kate gets.

ILuvMaine said...

I'm am just so jelus of Kate's new look. Oh no!! I think I'm a hater!! Just kidding!!!!

You can just see the love that Kate has, who is the better parent, in the way she is dislocating her son's arm while assisting him into the van.

Pony said...

Why is she holding what appears to be all the tups' backpacks in her other hand? Why not toss them into the car (floor of the passenger side of the front seat perhaps?), thus freeing up both hands to help the kids in if she must. That said, the kids have on jeans. They could use their own hands to scramble into the van. I know mine could have at that size. The step stool idea would work as well. And it would help the kids be independent - which is, the last time I checked, a huge goal of parenting.

To Kathy in Florida - Jon can't pick the kids up from school if it's Kate's time for custody. That's the way divorce works. Sometimes the kids are with Mom; sometimes they're with Dad.

Pat said...

She's got obviously-fake boobs, obviously-fake teeth, obviously-fake nails, an obviously-fake tan, an obviously-fake laugh, and it's obvious she's faking when she acts like she cares about anyone other than herself and money. It doesn't surprise me she's now got fake hair that looks like a wig from Wal-Mart. She's a low-class act all the way.

silimom said...

regardless of my feelings about K, she is the one helping the kids into the car while her ex husband is shacking up with a 25 year old....
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Does anyone know what the current custody arrangement is? I know she has primary custody, but did that change the schedule? Are they still doing the he has them Friday to Monday and she has them Tuesday-Thursday? Or did they change that?

I suspect that they did because it seems like he's there every other weekend.

Still, Kathy, I agree, he should be living with a relative right now in PA rather than with his new girlfriend so he can be more involved with his kids. I'm really not impressed with either of them and their parenting skills. The only reason Kate is there right now I believe is to show off her hair and get the photo ops. I could be wrong, after all, since the divorce there haven't been many pics of her doing much of anything. Any locals know who's picking up the kids regularly? Kate or the nannies?

silimom said...

The more I see Kate's hair the more I just don't think it's very flattering on her. She really looks better with short hair. It thins out her face more.

silimom said...

Was sitting here thinking about Kate and the kids. Does anyone know how things are going for them? I know she said they needed therapy and she was going to try and find someone for them (I thought she'd already said a few months ago they were all in therapy, but maybe that was Jon. It's so hard to keep the lies straight). But how has their lifestyle changed? Does Kate still have the nannies? Does anyone see them out and about with the kids? I've always assumed that the kids get on the bus, go to school, get off the bus, go home and that's it. No real interaction with their hometown. Am I wrong? I certainly hope so.

I would love to hear that Kate had to give up the nannies because she couldn't afford them and this forced her to really interact with her kids which caused her to have an epiphany and change her ways and that she'd become a more hands on, interactive mom. That out of this whole hellish experience she could grow up and develop a strong relationship with all of her children.

Wishful thinking maybe, but I'm just curious if anyone in the know has seen any changes in Kate since the divorce. Is she getting better and more 'other centered' or is she still the same old Kate?

piethecat said...

Kathy in Florida said...
I am not sure how she is helping him, but maybe she's helping lift him since he's little, but you know, regardless of my feelings about K, she is the one helping the kids into the car while her ex husband is shacking up with a 25 year old....


Hold up here.

Here's doing his share of the parenting too. This is a mere photo op.

As for the 25 y.o.... What are you implying? I am 25, and the love of my life is 14 years older than I.

Does that make me some sort of strumpet? I'm starting to take offense to these remarks about younger women. I'll have you know that I own a home and am working on my PhD, thankyouverymuch.

HARUMPH.

Midwest Mom said...

@Kathy in Florida said..."regardless of my feelings about K, she is the one helping the kids into the car while her ex husband is shacking up with a 25 year old."

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Just maybe it's not Jon's day to have custody of the children?

If it's not his turn, why would he be there ?

If it's not Jon's turn to be with the children and he showed up, Kate would probably be calling the cops on him for interfering with "her time".

On a side note, the 'tups are developmentally old enough at age 5 1/2 to be getting themselves in and out of the van.

They don't need mommy yanking their arms to "help them" get in or out.

Gimme Gimme said...

The kids are still so tiny for being well over 5. Haven't seen them in a while and they don't seem to be getting any bigger, or maybe they just look small trying to get up into the van.

That does not look like the same hair to me. It was not curley, and it is way too thick with all those layers. I didn't see that many layers in the People shoot. It was smooth and longer and flowing, and not nearly so bulky.

It would have looked so much better if they had left it long and straight and if she would wear the bangs. Her face is lost underneath. What a waste.

Maude said...

While I despise what Kate Gosselin has done to her family and do enjoy, on occasion, making snarky remarks about her appearance, I just don't see what is so hooker-ish about the shoes she's wearing. They just look like plain ole'pumps to me.

For once, I think she looks kind of nice, and seems to be dressed appropriately for the weather.

My God, I just defended Kate, I should go take my temperature now!

TUNDRA said...

Where's Jamie Cole Ayers, Kate's manish look-alike friend who also has twins and was divorced last summer? Reportedly Kate Gosselin wanted Jamie to move to PA because they make a "good team". Anybody got the real scoop?

my9cats said...

Kathy in Florida said...

I am not sure how she is helping him, but maybe she's helping lift him since he's little, but you know, regardless of my feelings about K, she is the one helping the kids into the car while her ex husband is shacking up with a 25 year old....
1/16/2010 5:43 AM

What does this have to do with anything? It's not Jon's turn to be with the kids. What he does on his off time is his business, just like what Kate does on her off time is her business.

my9cats said...

Lauren said...

I see the wooden spoon is not in the door pocket.

1/16/2010 12:33 AM

Probably on the other side or glove compartment. I am sure Katie Irene does not leave home without it.

fidosmommy said...

I wonder who will be taking the van to the car wash? Can-Do Kate?

Laura B said...

I didnt recognise who that was until I read the comments. I thought it was a Nanny.

If I was kate's friend I would tell her that it looks like a wig and no way natural.

Jane in California said...

To Kathy in Florida,

First of all, are you saying that when it is Kate's custodial time with the children, Jon should insist on barging in and picking up the children regardless? That's not how split custody arrangements work.

Secondly, once you are divorced, you can date anyone you wish - as long as they are above the age of consent. So if Jon chooses to spend his non-custodial time in Florida with a 25-year old girl, less than 10 years his junior, that's his right and perogative.

I have dated older men and don't see the problem. When I was 23, I dated a 41-year old. It was a lovely relationship. When I was 26, I dated a 40 year old. It just so happened that I preferred an older guy - and since we were both single, it was perfectly fine. So is Jon's relationship (if any) with this 25 year old woman.

Why people act like Jon should be present at all times, even when the court says it's not his custodial time, I can't figure out.

Laura T said...

It would be so easier just to put a stool, let them climb up alone, toss stool in, shut door.
Easy peasy..

Pa Mom Knows said...

"On a side note, the 'tups are developmentally old enough at age 5 1/2 to be getting themselves in and out of the van.

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Oh, good grief. Here's a case of she's damned if she does, and damned if she doesn't. If she saw one of the kids needed help to get in and out of the car (it's a high step), she's be criticized for not helping them and letting them struggle. If she does help them, then she's accused of yanking their arms and not letting them fend for themselves.
Did I just defend Kate? Yeah, I guess I did.

Fed Up said...

I can't stand the Clean Slate Kate term. More like Dirty Crate Kate! Put her in a dirty crate like she put the dogs in & send her back where she came from like she did the dogs. Her new hair looks so ridiculous & so white trash. I KNOW soon we will not have to see her ever again cuz she is already fading fast & noone really cares anymore. She will be totally forgotton. Like the dogs, and her cats & her family & her friends. She is no celebrity that's for sure. She is a laughing stock & always will be. The only thing that bothers me is that she is a terrible Mom & those kids are going to suffer because of it. I pray for them. Their future is already at stake. they will always be recognized & tormented I'm afraid. Nice job TLC. Look what you have done to a family. Only one happy is Fake Kate. I hope she is miserable one day. She deserves it.

Team Conan said...

Jimmy Fallon Late Night on Friday. Jimmy was writing thank you notes, and he thanked TLC for giving Kate Gosselin her own show without her kids. "It willl be interesting to how she copes with her day to day life activities without interacting with children around. Wait, no it won't."

readerlady said...

@Kathy in Florida

Who says Jon is "shacked up" with a 25 year old girlfriend? Last I heard, the 25 year old, despite all the media attempts to make her out to be Jon's new love interest, was his friend's girlfriend. If this pick-up was done during Khate's custody time, Jon couldn't be with the kids, helping them on or off the van. And what she is doing is not "helping". A real mother, or, heck, any sensible person, would assist a child onto the van by picking them up, not by trying to hoist them up by one arm.

Stop Already said...

Texas Two Step said...

What's with the hooker heels to drop your kids off at bus stop??? Being in TX big hair country, where the ladies like to ensure a good appearance, I do NOT see any other mom's dropping off in high heels unless they are dressed in their business attire for their JOBS that they go to after dropping off the kiddo's.....arrgghhhh

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How do you know what she was doing before picking up the kids? Maybe she was coming from a meeting. Yes, they do have meetings in the world of reality television. And really, who cares? She is not harming anyone by wearing heels, so why does anyone care what the woman chooses to put on her feet?

Not a fan said...

As for the 25 y.o.... What are you implying? I am 25, and the love of my life is 14 years older than I.

Does that make me some sort of strumpet? I'm starting to take offense to these remarks about younger women. I'll have you know that I own a home and am working on my PhD, thankyouverymuch.

HARUMPH.


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Bravo! Well said!

I am not a big fan of the way Kate interacts with her kids, and then misrepresents herself to the media. That being said, however, just because I don't like her doesn't make her the devil incarnate.

She could be the world's best mom, and still have a terrible haircut or terrible fashion choices (or the world's worst mom, with fanstastic taste). Those are two independent qualities, and it's frustrating to see important points being lost or obscured by ad hominem attacks.

Similarly, Jon has made some bad choices, but most of them are pretty separate from his ability to be a father to his kids.

She Can't Win said...

Pony said...

Why is she holding what appears to be all the tups' backpacks in her other hand? Why not toss them into the car (floor of the passenger side of the front seat perhaps?), thus freeing up both hands to help the kids in if she must. That said, the kids have on jeans. They could use their own hands to scramble into the van. I know mine could have at that size.


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If she did that and one of the kids fell, I can just picture the outcry here. She'd be accused of being a negligent parent.

Gimme Gimme said...

I agree that Kate is dressing much more conservatively these days. What happened?

N.E. Psychologist said...

Piethecat - I wish you luck and stamina in finishing your Ph.D. I know how much work it is!
I don't really understand the snark about the age of Jon's girlfriends,
(they've all been of legal age) although his taste has been somewhat questionable. I don't think his years with Kate allowed him room for emotional growth and he's trying to find his way. Personally, I hope he also eventually finds a soulmate, no matter what her age.

Irene said...

Well, another photo opportunity. Kate picks the kids up from the bus stop for a photo opportunity. She deposits them at the mcmansion with all the staff. Kate then changes vehicles & returns to her priority. Kate!!!!!!!

You know the longer they put Kate out there to make monkey munch out of her....the more monkey munch there is too make.

Swissmiss said...

I just glanced at the photo and thought it was a babysitter until I read the comments.

Mona said...

In the People Magazine shoot, her hair had lots of different color strands, from medium umber to very blonde. I don't see that color differentiation in this photo.

The People Magazine article said she was having to deal with a large debt, but with "hard work" she could climb out of it. This leads me to ask, as others did above, if she's living with all the
ameneties of wealth, such as nannies and going shopping a lot.
Or was that just another ploy to convince us that she needs her show back?

I know it's none of my business but I would sure love to get my hands on her financial statements and see about all this debt.

goawayJandK said...

regardless of my feelings about K, she is the one helping the kids into the car while her ex husband is shacking up with a 25 year old....

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With all due respect, when did "helping the kids into the car" deserve a gold medal ? It's just another of a million mundane things we moms and dads do every day : it's called being a parent.

As for Jon and the ladies : who cares and I would bet money that it's all BS created by TLC...

jibberjabbers said...

So for the 1st time in 2 months, Kate decides to pick up the kids from the bus.. And for what? To show of her new do? And the sheeple are using this pic as "evidence" that Kate is a better parent?

I don't see any smiles from the kids. I don't see Hannah running to Kate to give her a big hug.

What I do see, is Kate again, yelling out orders. The kids looks sad and tired, waiting to get out the bus.

Kate is yelling for them to stand still, in a straight line and pose for the camera before they can get off the bus.

Why does she have to control their every move?

I think it would be better if the nanny picked up the kids. Which I'm pretty sure she does 95% of the time.

Which is why we're only seeing Kate pick them up for the 1st time in how long? Just to show off her new do..

Button Button said...

For Kate, her spiky do with the flap in the front, while fun to mock, was also her trademark. Now, she blends in with every other 30-something woman trying to hang onto her 20's with the long blond locks and too tight jeans.

Of course, once she opens her yap and starts screeching, voice recognition will kick in.

1/15/2010 10:55 PM
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Just for the record, I love it that her "signature" flap of hair is gone. I love it that people might not recognize her. I love it that she now looks like many other women of her age. I love it. Anything she can do to belittle her "brand" is a very good thing.

Carrin said...

I agree Kate made a mistake with this hair. I wasn't even sure it was her in the picture. If she wants to continue her "fame" she should keep the short hair but maybe a tamer style. A more gradual change to longer hair would be more recognizable.
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But isn't that what we want? We don't want her to be feeling so "famous." It would be a good thing for her not to have her fans swooning in admiration. She might start feeling less above everyone else on the planet.

It is not a mistake. It is a "very good thing!"

Sidney said...

silimom said...
The more I see Kate's hair the more I just don't think it's very flattering on her. She really looks better with short hair. It thins out her face more.

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Please don't tell HER that!

Sidney said...

It would have looked so much better if they had left it long and straight and if she would wear the bangs. Her face is lost underneath. What a waste.
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What a waste? What a waste? I LOVE it that her face is lost underneath!

Laura B said...

They've had this van for how long now?? The little ones are 5 years old now...why not get a small step stool that can be tucked into the van and would allow the kids to climb in on their own"

I second this motion and I wonder why kate has not figured this out.
It would make climbing in and out faster and easier on everyone.

Sharon said...

My daughter is their age and size and yet manages to jump in and out of our SUV on her own every day! The whole arm yanking thing is inappropriate and painful looking IMO. I agree with above, they're in jeans, if they can't make it stepping in, allow them to climb... oh but wait, then they might get DIRTY and THAT would be a sin in miss Kate's eyes!!! Dirt?? On a child?? OH NO!!

Every time someone references the wooden spoon I want to grab my own wooden spoon and smack Ms. Khate with it. grrrrrrrr Maybe the laws are different in PA, but in my state you would go to jail for striking your child with a spoon. Why is she allowed to do that???

truthhurts said...

If only Katie Irene's PR team could hear the comments that people were making about Kate's 'make over while I was standing in line at Target today. Clearly, by the comments, people are so O.V.E.R. Ms. Gosselin. Next please!

New Englander said...

Okay, I have a question, now I live on the north eastern coast. Is it warmer in PA than it is in Central New England in January? Granted, it may be due to it is more south than here, but every photo I've seen recently of "Can-DO" she's dressed very light (light coat, light top etc...not a sweater), not in winter clothes. As for her shoes I don't wear high heels in winter unless I want a broken or frost bitten ankle.

Laura B said...

NewEnglander said...
I know there has been a lot of talk about Jon getting a real job and so forth, but one thing I thought of, perhaps it's not that easy due his notariety? Maybe either some potential employers would be less than willing to put up with paparazzi hanging aroudn their business ..."

I think that is the last reason he does not have a job.
Even if the economy were in better shape he has no employable skills or experience.

I think he also is lookig for/prefers a publicity type job that lands him big bucks for just being Jon Gosselin from tv.

I wish hat Jon would go back to school and get certified in something anything. It would help with his image and self esteem.

Tami said...

I am not sure how she is helping him, but maybe she's helping lift him since he's little, but you know, regardless of my feelings about K, she is the one helping the kids into the car while her ex husband is shacking up with a 25 year old....

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??! And you Do realize that they share custody and that he picks them up on his days, right? Just because they chose to stop showing him being their dad does not mean he has stopped. What 25 year old is he shacking up with? Last I heard he was dating someone new and DATING was all he was described as doing. Hailey is old news.

Also, she could shack up with anyone or anything and they would not let anyone know because she is not the one they are hoping to destroy. She is the one they are protecting.

Tami said...

For once, I think she looks kind of nice, and seems to be dressed appropriately for the weather.

My God, I just defended Kate, I should go take my temperature now!
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I actually thought she looked ok too because at least she is covered up and looks sort of mom-ish. True, she is not beautiful and her hair is not all that stylish or attractive, but most moms you see out and about are not super models either. She is not looking bizarre in her old mullet or wearing slutty clothes, so she's ok this time IMO.

As for the kids being "helped" (yanked) into the van, my 4 year old gets in and out of our van by herself every time. They are too old for this!

TUNDRA said...

The more I look at the pics the more I am convinced Fake-Kate-Clean-Slate is wearing a wig to cover up the rehab of what's left of her original hairdo after the extensions were taken out.

Totally Agree said...

He..he.... Just had a thought. If it's true that Clean-Slate-Kate doesn't like her new hairdo, I'm sure there are still leftover Kate Halloween wigs at the Thrift Store for a couple of bucks!

jojo said...

So for the 1st time in 2 months, Kate decides to pick up the kids from the bus..

How do you know it was the first time in two months? Just because something isn't photographed doesn't mean it didn't happen.

fidosmommy said...

Pa Mom Knows said...
"On a side note, the 'tups are developmentally old enough at age 5 1/2 to be getting themselves in and out of the van.

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Oh, good grief. Here's a case of she's damned if she does, and damned if she doesn't. If she saw one of the kids needed help to get in and out of the car (it's a high step), she's be criticized for not helping them and letting them struggle. If she does help them, then she's accused of yanking their arms and not letting them fend for themselves.
Did I just defend Kate? Yeah, I guess I did.


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What I'm criticizing is how Kate doesn't seem to be prepared for
anything. She has small children and a large van. It seems to me that a mom would think "OK, how can I get my little kids up that step carefully but without having to pull them up by one arm? That's got to be uncomfortable, being lifted like that."

As I said earlier, and somebody else commented later, having a small step stool would solve the problem. Just a little thought would go a long, long way.

Remember Disney and no change of clothes in case of food messes? Remember sending kids to places where they should have brought
paint shirts, but didn't, so the fun was called off? The point is, for me anyway, that Kate just doesn't plan ahead. Miss Organized
can't figure out the simplest things and the kids seem to be the ones who have to deal with it in some negative way.

itsaboutthekids said...

"The point is, for me anyway, that Kate just doesn't plan ahead. Miss Organized can't figure out the simplest things and the kids seem to be the ones who have to deal with it in some negative way."
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Perhaps she knows EXACTLY what she's doing, or not doing, and likes drawing attention to herself that way. Where most people try to make things go smoothly, narcissists become very adept at creating chaos all around and keeping things in turmoil. It seems to be second nature to them and they survive and even thrive on the drama. At least that's how it was with my ex-DIL.

texas two step said...

NEW ENGLANDER said:
As for her shoes I don't wear high heels in winter unless I want a broken or frost bitten ankle.

1/16/2010 12:39 PM

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Thanks for that point as well. The term "hooker heels" was used loosely. Most mom's on the go with 8 kids don't wear blouse's with khaki's (casual wear) and 3"+ high heels. It's not practical. It looks like TLC is trying to "tone her down" in the dress department and perhaps the heels are her way to keep it sexy. At any rate, whatever- summer is around the corner.... and we all know what last summer was like in the dress department. Just wait.

N.E. Psychologist said...

Tami said (and others implied)

They are too old for this!
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Anyone want to bet on high chairs and bibs?

GoPoshGo said...

New Englander said...
Okay, I have a question, now I live on the north eastern coast. Is it warmer in PA than it is in Central New England in January?

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It's been a very cold winter here (teens and twenties most mornings the past few weeks) -- Kate just doesn't dress for the weather. Maybe she should dig out that free ski jacket (remember that really pretty light blue one from the Utah episode -- when the whole family got free ski clothes?). That is, if she hasn't already sold it in a consignment shop.

Barbara in VA said...

She tries to control the kids by steering them by their heads, yanking their arms and over thier heads, anyway she can. I feel that she is trying to control everyone in her life that way -- the kids are just too beaten down and too small to fight back. I'd love to see some bigger person snatch katie Irene around like that, wouldn't you?

Barbara in VA said...

Oh, and another thing....I have helped my kids into an SUV, a van, even a truck, but I didn't yank them by their arms. I helped them by holding onto their bodies and lifting. Most of the time, though, the kids loved to just scramble in however they could. Not every move needs to be orchestrated, Ms. Skank, and I have to add that the Tammy Wynette 60's hairdo, wig, whatever that is, not flattering at all.

Midwest Mom said...

If they're not old enough to get in & out of the van by themselves at age 5 1/2, when will she let them? Junior High School ?

Brummygirl said...

regardless of my feelings about K, she is the one helping the kids into the car while her ex husband is shacking up with a 25 year old....
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It was previously said that the 25 year old girl was a friend's girlfriend.
It matters not anyway, Jon is free from the umbilical cord to do what he wants. Just one of Kate's babies who got away!!!
It was obviously not Jon's custody time and obviously another photo op for Kate.
Sheesh, those kids are going to have arms down to their feet. She could at least have put down the bags and lifted them two handed underneath their arms.

piethecat said...

N.E. Psychologist said...
Piethecat - I wish you luck and stamina in finishing your Ph.D. I know how much work it is!
I don't really understand the snark about the age of Jon's girlfriends,
(they've all been of legal age) although his taste has been somewhat questionable. I don't think his years with Kate allowed him room for emotional growth and he's trying to find his way. Personally, I hope he also eventually finds a soulmate, no matter what her age.


I'm betting he's young at heart and that he'll find someone younger who is wise beyond her years... that'll help them meet in the middle. ;-)

my9cats said...

Sharon said: shortened
" Every time someone references the wooden spoon I want to grab my own wooden spoon and smack Ms. Khate with it. grrrrrrrr Maybe the laws are different in PA, but in my state you would go to jail for striking your child with a spoon. Why is she allowed to do that???
1/16/2010 12:16 PM "

Jeez... come on girl, get with it!
Kate gets away with it because she has...wait for it..... 8, count 'em 8 children, is a poor single mom struggling to put organic food on the table while her no-good ex carouses 365/24/7 with 25 year old (or younger)skanks. What can charming Clean Slate Kate do to keep the order she is renowned for but to beat the crap out of her kids.

Reading news said...

GoPoshGo said...
New Englander said...
Okay, I have a question, now I live on the north eastern coast. Is it warmer in PA than it is in Central New England in January?

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It's been a very cold winter here (teens and twenties most mornings the past few weeks) -- Kate just doesn't dress for the weather. Maybe she should dig out that free ski jacket (remember that really pretty light blue one from the Utah episode -- when the whole family got free ski clothes?). That is, if she hasn't already sold it in a consignment shop.
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If she were to dress for the temps that we have been experiencing here in Berks County this year, she would have to hide her bazooms and I don't think that would work for her.

Also, since the weather issue has come up I often feel that the kids aren't dressed properly. In this pic of the kids being picked up from school the boy (not sure which one) doesn't have a coat on and also doesn't appear that he has an undershirt on as his back is showing as she maneuvers him into the van.

Her mothering skills sure need some updating. What a strange life these kids live!

Tangerine Tanya said...

My two cents here:
If Kate chooses to help one of the kids into the van then she should stand behind them and put her hands underneath their armpits and hoist them up. That is just plain common sense. Kate being a nurse should better.

Also Kate spends bundles of money on herself so I have to wonder why she doesn't buy some darn head bands for those girls so that their hair doesn't hang in their eyes. Better yet she should spend some time braiding the girls hair instead of having the not a nanny do it.

pattyh said...

I don't have a huge van but my son was climbing in our car and buckling himself in at 3 (of course I checked behind and tightened for him). I can not think of one time lifting him anywhere by one arm like that.

steph said...

Gimme Gimme said...
I agree that Kate is dressing much more conservatively these days. What happened?

It's cold right now in PA. Wait til the weather warms up and you'll see her other wardrobe reappear.

PA WOman said...

Maude said...

For once, I think she looks kind of nice, and seems to be dressed appropriately for the weather.

My God, I just defended Kate, I should go take my temperature now!

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I was thinking the same thing Maude, but thought I'd have to hid in a corner if I said it. I think she looks the best she has in months. Better go lie down now.

Payson48 said...

We saw her potty training them and I wonder if she ever got them started using toilet paper? Did I miss that show? She has shown everything else. I just hope these kids have half a chance in the adult world.

Payson48 said...

As long as the tups are small "she has control" over them=steering them by their head,yanking them by the arm. As they get older and start to protest these pictures may disappear. The last couple of trips-just the tups-she's got the control.

Aunt Chris said...

I hope she lets other children off the bus before she lines hers up for the riot act before they get off. If I was a parent waiting for my kid, she'd certainly hear about it if she was holding up others. Why don't you try teaching you kids some parking lot safety instead of lining them up like inmates each time? And it drives me nuts to see her parked cross-wise taking up 3 or 4 spaces! She's entitled too, I guess because she has a big van and 8 kids!

False Hopes said...

To address the comment(s) about toilet paper and Kate's illegal parking.

#1- We all saw the tups using the potty and then stand up(camera's blocking the private area) and pull their pants straight up. So I doubt that nurse Kate actually did personal hygiene.

#2- Kate is NOT a rule follower as she professes to be. We have seen numerous pic's of her parking illegally.

Hannah said...

First of all you can put a million dollar outfit on Kate and she would still look like she was run over with a tractor. And second, it must really blow for her to sit in a chair for 20 hrs and then her OWN kids LAUGH at her.. Now that is COLD but TRUE.. Its funny what a narcissist self centered tramp she is. She thinks she is all that and a bag of chips but I have to tell ya.. she isnt even the salt on the chips. She isnt even the bag they come in. Once a loser always a loser.

joyce said...

but in my state you would go to jail for striking your child with a spoon. Why is she allowed to do that???


There is no evidence or proof that Kate strikes her kids with a wooden spoon.

MickeyMcKean said...

It does appear that true celebrities are not afraid of speaking out against Kate Gosselin!!!

Above is a transcript of Joan Rivers on Joy Behar's show, and below is a transcript from the ACCESS HOLLYWOOD 1/15/10 episode where Billy Bush is asking Janice Dickinson, guest host, known to be brutally honest questions re KG :)

BB: Now I know you have opinions on Kate Gosselin, the lovely Kate Gosselin. First, the new hair and now a new TLC series in development but what should her show be about?

JD: Her penile implant.

BB: ::: laughing speechlessly for about 6 sec!! :::

BB: If it would be up to 49% of the nation Kate would show off her cooking skills a la Martha Stewart. Janice, on a serious note, what do you think her show should be about?

JD: It shouldn't be about her cooking because we've never honestly seen her cook. I think she is a hack. She does not deserve a show. I find her uninteresting. I find her boring. Who cares about her hair extensions ... I don't. No not into it, sorry.

BB: Janice an absolutely pleasure, well said, thank you so much.

JD: I love you Billy Bush!

Hannah said...

Seems every time Jon is in the press she goes and does something so OFF THE WAY so that she stays somewhat relevant. TOO BAD SO SAD IT ISNT WORKING...

my9cats said...

joyce said...

but in my state you would go to jail for striking your child with a spoon. Why is she allowed to do that???


There is no evidence or proof that Kate strikes her kids with a wooden spoon.
1/16/2010 6:58 PM


There was an article last year where an insider (suspected to be a crew member who couldn't take it anymore) described how she grilled the tups as to something breaking. No one admitted anything so she grabbed one of those poor sweet boys, hauled him into the bathroom with the spoon and commenced walloping him with it. Rule by fear. I see no reason to doubt the veracity of this story.

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

I calmly said to my daughter, "Oh, don't do that," after she lovingly picked up her 18 mo. old by his arms.
Walking w/him today he held on to my fingers but his arm was surely not stretched "up" as the poor little Gosselin children have been photographed (as in "yanked").
Are we talking rotator cup problems in the future?

Is Kate wearing a new wig (from Tardy to the Party Kim) or is it just my wild imagination? It was bad at first but it seems to be even much more unattractive.
As much as I dislike her, she's a pretty (on the outside) woman who looks very foolish with that pitiful hairdo. Wish that $$$ could be sent to Haiti!

Midnight Serenade said...

"There is no evidence or proof that Kate strikes her kids with a wooden spoon."

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I remember an episode in which the kids flinched at the sight of the spoon. I guess they did this because they were afraid she would be cooking something with it that they didn't like.

Melissa said...

Y'know, Joan Rivers takes a lot of smack for some things (and rightfully so), but she is so dead on in this situation it is not even funny.

Yippee said...

I am thrilled that Kate is going to have a show....I KNOW what it should be. It should go with her strengths: insulting people and organising.

She should go into people's homes with a crew and show them how to organise their mess.

Or

I personally would LOVE to see Kate do a "dirty jobs" type of show, where she has to work on a crab fishing boat, baiting the crab pots; in a dog kennel scooping poop; cleaning bird cages and feeding snakes mice, in a pet shop; be an aide in a daycare; shovel horse manure in a horse riding arena; bussing tables in a busy resturant; or even being a wedding planner for Bridzillas!

Or

It would be great to have a show where Kate tries to get people to do stuff for her. Like go into a store and see what she can get for free, by crying, or telling a sob story. See if she can talk herself out of a ticket, after driving 100 miles an hour, by crying or feigning an emergency with her kids...THAT WOULD be reality tv!

jibberjabbers said...

More pics of the bus pick up are up on sosugary. Watch how Kate covers or smacks Colin or Joel? Because he was talking before her majesty the queen.

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Try Living On My Salary! said...

Mona said, "The People Magazine article said she was having to deal with a large debt, but with 'hard work' she could climb out of it. This leads me to ask, as others did above, if she's living with all the amenities of wealth, such as nannies and going shopping a lot. Or was that just another ploy to convince us that she needs her show back? I know it's none of my business but I would sure love to get my hands on her financial statements and see about all this debt."
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Okay, I'm being judgmental and I don't know all the circumstances, but how in the heck can she have so much debt when much of the material possessions she obtained in the last few years of the reality show was freebies? Also, they were paid handsomely for Jon & Kate Plus Eight. They had an opportunity to sock away a lot of money. I have no sympathy for living large otherwise. Many have written here over the many months now about the kind of money this couple seemed to go through in the past year, particularly, post break-up. We, of course, know few details. But, same thing sort of, on the premiere of another reality show about Beach Boys daughter, Carnie Wilson...her show opener has her saying to the camera that, yes, she made a lot of money, but she spent it. Well, you reap what you sew. I'm a baby boomer; I'm going through it, too. But I never in my life will know the kind of money these TV show people bring in! You'd think with those kinds of dollars, you'd tuck something away for the rainy days. I guess they get accustomed to a lifestyle they're reluctant to give up. Still, income of millions of dollars in a relatively short period of time? You shouldn't be broke or in debt, IMHO.

As Long As We're Venting said...

Also Kate spends bundles of money on herself so I have to wonder why she doesn't buy some darn head bands for those girls so that their hair doesn't hang in their eyes. (From Tangerine Tanya)
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I've never written that here but, yes, it has always bugged me from even when I was watching the reality show "in the old days," how the little girls' hair was so messy. Years and years ago, I read an article about how much happier a kid is when their hair isn't in their face...and I'm sure it was just a writer's opinion, although it made sense to me...so, with short hair on a girl, bangs are great; or, if hair is long, try barrettes and braids. Ponytails after awhile can hurt, etc. In the scheme of things, sure, this isn't on par with our more serious subjects of child exploitation but it certainly has a lot to do with comfort.

Weather-Appropriate Attire said...

Reading news, "Also, since the weather issue has come up I often feel that the kids aren't dressed properly. In this pic of the kids being picked up from school the boy (not sure which one) doesn't have a coat on and also doesn't appear that he has an undershirt on as his back is showing as she maneuvers him into the van."
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Kate can choose to dress how she wants FOR HERSELF in whatever weather is out there but, gosh, I've noticed also, so many times in photos or also on the J&K+8 reality show in the past, where the kids weren't dressed properly...and she needs to make better choices for them! Remember when Mady was deprived of water in a photo shoot? I'm pretty sure the boys were wearing heavy sweaters under the studio lights. Yet when the tups had their birthday party at a park after Jon & Kate had split up, the girls were running around with dresses on a cold day (bare legs?) yet I'm pretty sure Kate had on a jacket and long pants. Unless I've mixed up the "memories," this is how I'm remembering those scenes and I recall being troubled by them. In Jon's defense, although I hated his behavior with Collin that day in the stick-breaking incident (StickGate), I can almost see the tups wearing jackets for a walk in the woods with Dad.

Avary said...

Regarding whether Kate hits the kids with a wooden spoon - There was a neighbor who posted here who said she saw Kate hitting a kid with a wooden spoon outside a restaurant. And wasn't there an episode where the kids were acting up and they were threatened with the "red spoon"?

Kris said...

TryLivingonMySalary said: "Okay, I'm being judgmental and I don't know all the circumstances, but how in the heck can she have so much debt when much of the material possessions she obtained in the last few years of the reality show was freebies?"

I have a gut instinct that with all of all the news and added scrutiny that their IRS debt is huge *because* of all the freebies. Remember, that is taxable income and you must report those things.

pinkdiamond611 said...

Here is my take on the debt issue. While the Kons were filming the show, all of their expenses were covered by TLC, mortgage, transportation, heat, meals, clothes, etc. You, know, regular living expenses. Now Khatie has to PAY out of her own pocket for this stuff. She considers it debt. Queen Freebie can't stand the fact that she now has to PAY for stuff. I dont believe for a second she is in debt. Using cash that you have socked away to pay your bills is not being in debt. Yawn I am sure is in debt up to his eyeballs with his legal fees.

Gimme Gimme said...

I saw the bus stop pics on SoSugary, and people wonder why we try and advocate for the kids on here. She is not equipped to handle those kids.

Collin was trying desparately to put his coat on (upside down) and that monster would not even lean down to help him..that is why he was probably complaining (freezing) when she "mashed his mouth" (as my mother would have called it back in the day).

She apparently cannot bend at the waist or knees as she towers above her under-developed children and refuses to help them do anything, and is always going after their heads or faces and arms(and yes there are pictures).

She didn't have any problem bending down when she "striped Leahs legs" as my mother would have called it back in the day (yes there are pics). Also, I noticed that Joel was doing a defensive move that is classic for abused children (reflexively flinching away) and he was only watching.

So yes to what few that try and defend Kate's actions she gets what she gives.

And just when I was feeling a little sorry for her with the new/retro-do fiasco she has to go and show her true colors. The woman has so much anger towards those kids she is the one that needs counseling.

A poor woman would be reported instantly for behaving that way in public with her children and have people knocking on her door with a briefcase and a policeman in tow.

And yes I am glad that her dark roots are already showing.

2badsosad said...

The People Magazine article said she was having to deal with a large debt, but with 'hard work' she could climb out of it.

If Kate has an abundance of debt then that is a result of her OWN irresponsible financial choices and decisions. The church gave her money, the taxpayers provided, the community gave her money, the fans gave her CASH money, businesses DONATED products and services, sponsored resort vacations, trips, luxery items and non essentials, and TLC compensated her financially and otherwise over the past 5 (?) years. Kate has been the recipient of and DEMANDED much in the form of non essential and luxery, I really have a hard time sympathizing or giving a rat's ass about her 'large' debt.

Maude said...

Yes, its quite clear to those of us who watched the show and have been following this saga that Kate uses a wooden spoon on her kids.

However, if by "proof" we're talking legally (Sharon mentioned going to jail in her state for striking a child with a wooden spoon), no law enforcement agency is going to watch a video of a child flinching at the sight of a wooden spoon and rush off to arrest the mother.

In this regard there is no proof.

Kathie Tallant said...

Weather-Appropriate Attire said...
Kate can choose to dress how she wants FOR HERSELF in whatever weather is out there but, gosh, I've noticed also, so many times in photos or also on the J&K+8 reality show in the past, where the kids weren't dressed properly...and she needs to make better choices for them!


She dresses herself correctly cause SHE is her only priority. She doesn't view her kids as real people, just instruments to her own gain. Her type, when left to their own devices without nannies, always dress their kids in inappropriate sizes, and weather clothes cause they aren't thinking of the child, just themselves.

Laura T said...

As Long As We're Venting said...
the little girls' hair was so messy..."snipped

I used to wonder about this too. Their hair would be sticking to their faces and necks while playing outside, blocking side vision. It would take less than a minute to brush their hair and wear a head band, two barettes or a not tight pony tail.

As an adult i still wear my hair away from my face- i am more prductive this way.

T$$$ said...

Off topic from Kate's hair --- Has anyone heard from Beth or Jodi? I can't imagine after all this time, we have not heard from them at all. I mean Beth was such a huge part of this family and we have heard NOTHING.

Laura T said...

pattyh said...
I don't have a huge van but my son was climbing in our car and buckling himself in at 3 (of course I checked behind and tightened for him).I can not think of one time lifting him anywhere by one arm like that."

Not a fan of Kate, but i would argue that we can't say something based on a single photo and not knowing the situation.
That said I cant think of a situation where yanking a kid's arm like that helps him. Her body language in that picture reads frustration/anger. My two cents

Reading news said...

As Long As We're Venting said...
Also Kate spends bundles of money on herself so I have to wonder why she doesn't buy some darn head bands for those girls so that their hair doesn't hang in their eyes. (From Tangerine Tanya)
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I've never written that here but, yes, it has always bugged me from even when I was watching the reality show "in the old days," how the little girls' hair was so messy.

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To both Tangerine Tanya and As Long As We Are Venting Here:

This, along with non-approriate apparel for cold weather, is another huge pet peeve of mine. I myself raised four little girls and two boys - not that different from Kate's family and always kept a big plastic box filled with hair bows, clips and ponytail holders. How in the world can she spend so much on her own hair and allow those girls to be seen as messy as they are most times. Imagine picking your kids up at the bus with a $7,000 hairdo (whether she paid for it or not) but allowing your kids look so disheveled.

That is why that old "I do it for my kids" holds no water.

I am sure there some very unhappy people at that school right now. If I were paying the tuitions those kids' parents pay I certainly wouldn't allow Kate to pose her kids as they get off the bus. As a matter of fact, I would be sure that she wasn't allowed anywhere near that bus. Isn't it strange that you never see any of the other parents right up at the bus?

konpounds R bad said...

Mona said...
"The People Magazine article said she was having to deal with a large debt, but with 'hard work' she could climb out of it. This leads me to ask, as others did above, if she's living with all the amenities of wealth, such as nannies and going shopping a lot. Or was that just another ploy to convince us that she needs her show back? I know it's none of my business but I would sure love to get my hands on her financial statements and see about all this debt."

I tend to believe there's some debt, probably due to buying the konpound. When they bought this, 97% of their income was coming from being on a "reality" show based on being happily married parents of eight. Their marriage was already on the skids, what were they thinking??? The taxes and maintenance on the konpound must be outrageous. On the other hand, if there is a debt problem, why don't they just reduce the price of the E-town house to actual market value and unload it?

There's also the private school tuition for 8 kids, the UT and NY condos & new cars for Jon and Kate's new SUV. I would venture to guess a good bit of the freebies have dried up, if not because the companies are not getting their air time anymore on J&K+8, then because it seems silly to send free juice to a family that lives on an estate.

In the People article, Kate reverted to what she does best. Her "scraping and struggling to get by" act. Problem is Kate's not going to find support and sympathy for her woes now, because she and Jon created them. People, even the fans, are much less sympathetic when Kate's now asking for help to live in the manner she feels she's entitled to when we are all just trying to keep our heads above water.

Speaking of the fans, as diehard as they are, I think deep down they are really fans of the kids not Jon or Kate. I don't think Kate's show will make it.

I don't know the cause.... whether it was arrogance, greed, bad advice, bad handling... Jon and Kate Gosselin have mismanaged every aspect of their family and "careers." They are nothing more than tabloid fodder, reduced to stunts like getting bad hair extensions and (allegedly) Jon ransacking his own apartment and leaking photos to stay relevant. While we always predicted there might be a fall such as this.... I take no pleasure in it knowing that there are 8 dear, sweet little children who depend on these people to raise them.

N.E. Psychologist said...

Mt9cats said

There was an article last year where an insider (suspected to be a crew member who couldn't take it anymore) described how she grilled the tups as to something breaking. No one admitted anything so she grabbed one of those poor sweet boys, hauled him into the bathroom with the spoon and commenced walloping him with it. Rule by fear. I see no reason to doubt the veracity of this story.
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I don't doubt it either but would appreciate it if you could remember the source.
I hope there's hell to pay when people who were THERE start talking.

nanb said...

ROL has photos up of Jon out drinking with Kevin Kreider. I guess they consider it bad that they had a boys night out.

I for one like that Jon and Kevin have put the past behind them and are friends again. I think its good for the kids that Dad hangs out with family, even if they are drinking in a bar.

kate is a cocky bitch said...

I never thought it was possible, but Kate's hairstyle makes her look like an even bigger jackass

Brummygirl said...

This is the story I perceive from seeing those sosugary photos.
I am not sure which little boy it is but it looks as though he got off the bus without his jacket. Everyone else had theirs on and they are warm jackets.
His attempt to put it on failed not with much help of Kate, so he ended up holding it in his hand.
He obviously said something Kate did not like hence the hand across his mouth and her mouth expressing something.
He probably said "I am cold you witch" and she kept him at the back for that, then yanked him in by his arm.
There was no look of happiness to see them at all in any of the photos, no hugs in case they pull out her hair.
There was not one smile from the kids either.
Such a lovely caring mother.

fidosmommy said...

Yippee said......
It would be great to have a show where Kate tries to get people to do stuff for her. Like go into a store and see what she can get for free, by crying, or telling a sob story. See if she can talk herself out of a ticket, after driving 100 miles an hour, by crying or feigning an emergency with her kids...THAT WOULD be reality tv!


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You may be WAAAY too young to remember a TV show called "Queen for a Day". On it, a woman would come on stage and tell her sob story, complete with tears and gesticulations, wringing a handkerchief or tissue. When she was done, another contestant would come out and do the same thing.
In the end, it was decided by the judge which woman had the largest plate of woes and would receive the title of Queen for a Day, a crown, sash and a washing machine!

For real. You had to be there, I guess...... it was incredible.

fidosmommy said...

School pick-up pictures: not only are there no hugs, there is not one smile among the 9 of them. Not one. How depressing life must be.

Mum said...

Kate's debt begins with the about $700K mortgage on the house she had to have. I hope she enjoys it while she has it and that's it's big enough for her for a change. She no doubt has some tremendous legal bills to pay off. I doubt TLC was paying the mortgage or upkeep on any of the houses unless it was something done for the show. TLC is a cheap network and will pay out the least it can to get the shows on the air.

Rambling With Utter Sincerity said...

nanb said...
ROL has photos up of Jon out drinking with Kevin Kreider. I guess they consider it bad that they had a boys night out.

I for one like that Jon and Kevin have put the past behind them and are friends again. I think its good for the kids that Dad hangs out with family, even if they are drinking in a bar.
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As long as Jon limits the sauce, since he already mentioned his dad suffered from alcoholism. But, yes, Kevin and Jon reconnecting...Kevin and Jodi's influence can only be good. After reading the last few comments (some great observations from GWOPs) about no smiles at the bus, body language maybe indicating all-around unhappiness, etc., I am for the hundredth or more time feeling that chill in my bones about the welfare and well-being of eight young children...and the helpless feeling of watching it, seeing it, hearing about it, reading about it but being able to do absolutely nothing about it except hand-wring and at least feel I stand in witness somehow for when the kids someday grow up and know that literally thousands of people who were allowed into their lives through television and print DID NOT accept how as little ones they were being treated or raised. When Jon and Kate put their children in our faces, they involved us. They can't have it both ways. I don't want to see anything bad happen, but there's going to be a misstep in here at some point and it will definitely be caught on film or tape. Or, yes, somehow, some way, somebody in the trenches behind the scenes will spill, big-time. I was taught to be kind to the elderly, animals, people who are challenged with disability and to little children, above all else. The proof is in the truth. There's going to be a real story about the Gosselins in the future when our concerns and questions are validated and answered. I just hope it's not at the expense of the children except to justify all they've had to endure also. They've lost so much of childhood, I can't help but hope for adulthood to get here sooner than later for them, which is a shame because carefree childhood never comes again. At least at legal age, they can finally run their own lives, hopefully with good mentoring from the right people as they chart their young adulthood.

fidosmommy said...

konpounds R Bad said...
On the other hand, if there is a debt problem, why don't they just reduce the price of the E-town house to actual market value and unload it?


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They did unload it. For something like $22,000 less than they paid for it. But we're told a very nice family has moved into the Etown house. May they be happy.

Lolo said...

The debt won't be just the house, but, as someone else noted, the IRS, too.

Those two almost certainly have a huge bill to pay for the freebies. All paid bills, trips, house upgrades, appliances, clothing, food, etc. that those two didn't pay for are considered INCOME under IRS rules, and tax is due on all of it.

It's not at all likely that they were filing or paying appropriate taxes over the term of their show. It's just about time for the IRS to be moving on their failure to file correctly.

The love offerings? Completely taxable, too. Since the Gs were careful to take only cash, the IRS will determine the value, unless K and J can show, with careful accounting records, exactly how much they raked in. You know how likely that is.

Coupon-clipping and avoiding organic milk won't be sufficient to get the Gs out of this kind of mess. Only steady WORK, as in a JOB, will do that. The IRS is notoriously insensitive to whining, so that's not a plan.

YouveWonAnIPod said...

They did unload it. For something like $22,000 less than they paid for it. But we're told a very nice family has moved into the Etown house. May they be happy.

And the McMansion has gone down in value by $300,000.00.

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/298-Heffner-Rd-Wernersville-PA-19565/82201869_zpid/

Amy2 said...

The people on this blog are rising a good question...what is really happening to children, especially behind closed doors. The sosugary pics show the kids without smiles being picked up by Kate. And in previous pics its the same, no smiles. Several months ago Pennsylvania authorities started an investigation and so far no information has been released. I understand that these investigations are private (which I appreciate) but how long does/should it take. Even Paul Peterson, A Minor Consideration, is concerned there hasn't been any word. Here is a direct quote from Mr. Peterson's website

"The State of Pennsylvania needs to pronounce the results of its nine-month investigation into the working reality of the Gosselin Eight."

my9cats said...

Queen for a Day. Man does this bring up memories. Especially the applause meter. Looking back as an adult it was incredibly cheesy having women spill their guts for a washer and dryer. I often wondered if the 'queen' was able to keep her crown.

my9cats said...

N.E. Psychologist said...

Article/big red spoon'

Aging baby-boomer here. If I remember I shall post it. LOL I can remember Queen For A Day but can't remember a few months ago.
Growing old is not for the weak!

JJ in WA said...

This is just my opinion but I bet that all 8 kids are happier when the nanny picks them up and not so much when they see Kate there. I am sure that is why we haven't seen as many bus stop pictures recently because the paps were after Kate, not the kids-hence she doesn't pick them up very often.

windy said...

I too remember Queen for a Day. There was even a Khate on it back then. Part of this womans request is she needs diaper service for her triplets.

I haven't seen a clip of this show in ages. I can't believe how demeaning it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w37Diw6wk48

my9cats said...

YouveWonAnIPod said...

They did unload it. For something like $22,000 less than they paid for it. But we're told a very nice family has moved into the Etown house. May they be happy.

And the McMansion has gone down in value by $300,000.00.

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/298-Heffner-Rd-Wernersville-PA-19565/82201869_zpid/
1/17/2010 12:17 PM

According to town rolls the house was purchased for 280K. It was originally listed at 350K which eventually dropped low and lower until it stopped at 299K.

nanb said...

joyce said...
but in my state you would go to jail for striking your child with a spoon. Why is she allowed to do that???


There is no evidence or proof that Kate strikes her kids with a wooden spoon.
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While not 100% proof here is some reporting on the spoon http://tvsnark.wordpress.com/2009/09/03/many-are-searching-kate-gosselin-wooden-spoon/

Also I believe there is an episode where the twins are pretending taking care of the tups they threatened to get the spoon. Wonder why they would do such a thing unless they are mimicking Mom and Dad?

She's come undone said...

There have been pages and pages written about how Kate jerks upwards on her children's arms rather than assist them sensibly. This is just more of the same. This image is so overdone it doesn't even deserve a notice. It's Kate. It's Kate being a get-it-done-quicky mother; not a good mother. She jerks their arms upward frequently and there is even footage of her doing this when they were one year olds. As a matter of fact, there is footage of Jon holding a child by one arm as well. I give them credit for nothing. Pick on her hair, but remember to pick on her poor mothering skills as well.

steph said...

If this is the greeting the kids get from Kate after a long day at school, it's no wonder they didn't have smiles on their faces on Fri.

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4938/44194746.gif

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konpounds R bad said...
Why don't they unload the old house?....

The old house has been sold, but they got far less than the asking price. It sold for $258,000 and they were asking $325,000; this was $22,000 less than they paid for it in 2006.

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Amy2,
I wonder if the hold up on the PA Dept of Labor's investigation is still being held up because TLC has STILL not provided the requested copy of their contract with the Gosselins.

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A recent estimate on the value of the McMansion is approx. $963,000 which is almost $300,000 less than when it was purchased a year ago. YIKES!

BeDoneNow said...

Why is this woman obsessed with yanking the arms of her children up in the air as high as possible? She will probably blame Jon somehow when they all need shoulder surgeries. No wonder they rarely smile at her: Mommy=pain in some form or another.

And I barely recognized her. Where's the hooker clothes? No skin tight pants? No open-toe platform shoes in '70s disco color? No skin tight tee with 1/2 of each breast muffining out the top? No day-glo lipstick?

TLC handlers are dressing her to fit her new show. Now if only they could hook her up to an IV of Humanity. Oh, wait - the sheeple wont like her that way and there goes the new show's ratings.

HI 50 said...

Jon, the punching bag is gone. Now that the target is gone, she's probably targeting the boys...or she's an equal opportunitist, targeting all the children.

Everything she does is documented. Say thank you to TLC, ROL, the paparazzi, talk shows and the tabloids that continue to document her lies, boo hoo, & aggressive behaviors stories.

Hope the kids have 911 & CPS on speed dial. When TLC is gone...she'll probably have a major meltdone. She'll look for a dumping ground to vent her frustration & anger.

I pray for the children that they will have strength & resilience to survive their childhood.

N.E. Psychologist said...

my9cats said Aging baby-boomer here. If I remember I shall post it. LOL I can remember Queen For A Day but can't remember a few months ago.
Growing old is not for the weak!
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Thanks for trying. Baby-boomer here too and I agree about growing old (never believed it would happen to me -lol) ms. katie is in for one hell of a shock.
It makes me so sad that so many of the shows about 20 somethings focus on looks and hooking up. We worked so hard to get women taken seriously as mothers AND people.
And yes, I remember Queen for a Day. Katie Irene sure took it to the next level. Think she's too old for "The Jersey Shore?" She's certainly trashy enough. (and for the record, those cretins are not from NJ).
Ok, sorry, didn't mean to give cretins a bad name.

PA Midstate Mommy said...

Re. the unhappy faces coming off the bus. This discussion brought back memories of my son in kindergarten. I couldn't wait to pick him up from the bus every day because he always got off with a smile on his face, and ran to me yelling "Mommy!" I always got a hug and we held hands as we walked to the car. Now he is in 5th grade, and although I know he is happy to see me at the end of his school day, he doesn't express it like he did when he was in kindergarten and first grade. This discussion makes my heart yearn for that special time of my son's childhood. Khate is so self-centered, she has no idea the precious memories she's depriving herself.

Fed Up said...

Hard To Keep Loving Jon: Thank you! I couldn't put my finger on what her hair reminded me of. You nailed it "Tardy for The Party Kim". LOL Exactly
And T$$$:Off the topic of hair, besides Beth & Jodi what the heck happened to Carla. She was the only one seen at the McMansion slaving away when they moved in.

Someday It'll be Payback Time said...

Those bus pics are horrible. She is a Monster!!! Not a Mom. Her 2nd worse tabloid title. Well i wonder why Kate??? Truth hurts, LOOK at yourself. Kids cringing in fear & all look so sad. Must be the not a nanny's day off. Looks like they little girls slept with braids in hair & then took out & didn't get their hair brushed at all. The one has a little nest on the back of her bedhead. But gee, Hannah has her hair braided with pink bows. HMMM...

sillyrabbit said...

The People Magazine article said she was having to deal with a large debt, but with 'hard work' she could climb out of it.

How does someone who has had practically EVERYTHING including a #1 reality tv show handed to them for the past five + years, go about acquiring such a large amount of debt?? The debt certainly doesnt include the cost of resort vacations, hair plugs/hair extentions, amusement park trips, ALL the gift cards, diapers, CASH ONLY donations. sponsored freebies, dental visits, etc.... How does a family who less than 5 years ago claimed barely have a roof over their head and food on the table and who openly and willingly were the recipients of an endless out pouring of church and community donations and services suddenly find themselves attached to a large amount of debt???
To think that other large families ie the Dilleys, NEVER had a reality tv show but some how manage to financially support their children WITHOUT BOO HOO'ing to the media !!

Two clueless idiots said...

PA Midstate Mommy said...

Re. the unhappy faces coming off the bus... Khate is so self-centered, she has no idea the precious memories she's depriving herself.

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I totally agree - My kids and I are thrilled to see each other at the end of the school day! No matter what kind of day we have had, we always greet each other with a smile, a hug and an "I missed you! How was your day?" Even if I've had to scramble to get there, and I'm exhausted when I arrive at school to pick up, and have a multitude of things to get done between 3:00 and bedtime, I make a huge deal about how happy I am to see them. They are also happy to see me, if the smiles, hugs and conversations on the way home are any indication. Yes, as the kids get older the greetings do get a little more reserved and are a little more tempered by the type of day they have had at school, but nobody watching us at pickup would doubt that we are happy to be together at the end of the day! These moments are precious and fleeting, and I pray that my children remember them with warmth and smiles when they grow older...I know that I will.

Aunt Chris said...

Kate has no clue how much precious time she is wasting with her kids. My baby girl just went back to college today and I miss her already, even though I hardly saw her while she was home, out with friends and working.

Shoshanna said...

Gimme Gimme said...
I agree that Kate is dressing much more conservatively these days. What happened?
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I'd say about 10 lbs. happened, 5 on each leg.

jibberjabbers said...

The only reason Kate is dressed "conservatively" is because it's cold as heck. The fact that she's wearing heels while dressed like that means she can't wait to show the world her purchased goods.

But truthfully, no man wants to see it. They rather google someone else, maybe google Kate for good laugh.

Wait til spring or summer. I bet the kids are dreading when the day come, as their mom pick them up in those 'outfits'...

Sosugary Image Source???? said...

OK - so in the sosugary pics for 1/15 (the arm-pulling, mouth slapping pics), you can see a watermark in the upper right hand corner of the pic "Socialite Life".

I looked up "A Socialite Life", and it's a gossip site.

http://socialitelife.celebuzz.com/about.php

Probably TLC hired them to get pics of Katan.

You can be sure that A Socialite Life is NOT giving these pics away for FREE to whoever is compiling the sosugary site.

I was trying to find links between A Socialite Life and TLC, but gave up. I'm sure there's a link somewhere.

PS - A socialite life has a list of interns....anyone of these interns may be the one responsible for managing the posts to the sosugary site. Afterall, the posts to sosugary seem to have dropped off over the semester break, no?

PPS - Here is the link between A Socialite Life and Discovery....

http://socialitelife.celebuzz.com/advertising.php

Discovery is a sponsor of A Socialite Life.

Not Watching TLC said...

ho hum is there anything more boring then this woman? I think watching grass grow, or paint dry, might be a more exciting show.

Brummygirl said...

@Sosugary Image Source
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That was good detective work!! :)

Sosugary Image Source??? said...

Just Jared, Socialite Life, Celebuzz, and Splash News are all brands of Buzz-Media:

http://buzz-media.com/brands/

Interesting.....BuzzMedia also does some celebrity blogs. Hmmm...like maybe blogs that host pics?

Last points -

1) Socialite Life lists Splash Media as the source of their Katan arm-pulling pictures, but I can't find the pictures on the Splash site.

2) Socialite Life has only 8 pics of the set published on their site - Sosugary has 18 of these pics - from the same set!!!! So, if sosugary is getting these pics from what is ALREADY on the web, where - on the web - are the remaining 10 pics in this set????

I still think there is some connection between Sosugary and TLC.

Merrilee said...

Does anybody believe the stupid story that the twins laughed when they saw Kate's new hair and she went to her room to cry?

Who was there and saw that and reported it?

The body guard? He surely wouldn't report it.

A nanny? She certainly wouldn't report it.

Who else could have seen and reported that ridiculous scenario?

Thatis absolutely NOT Kate's style. If the twins laughed at her hair, it was THEM that went to their room to cry.

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

I viewed "the bus" pix at all the above sites. What a sad commentary on that mother and her pitiful children. There was NOT a smile in the group. Greeting my children after a day in school was always a happy time! THAT IS NOT A HAPPY FAMILY.......case closed.
In each photo Khate looked disinterested or annoyed (sheeple can NOT defend that).
One site showed, in contrast, a smiling tup delighted to be greeted by her father as she got off the bus.....rather telling, don't you think?

you are your childrens respite from the world said...

As a Mom it didn't matter to me what kind of day I had. While I'm not perfect by any means, I knew that the smiling little faces coming out of the school were ready for a warm hug and kiss and bursting to tell me about their day. As mentioned previously, somehow Khate is missing the empathy/mothering gene. Sad for her children to be sure.

Some parents have the maturity to put their children before themselves. Again, why would someone go through all this fertility stuff then just not really be mother material? We've seen the answer, greed, fame, fortune, selfishness, etc.. and on and on.

jibberjabbbers said...

Merrilee said...

Does anybody believe the stupid story that the twins laughed when they saw Kate's new hair and she went to her room to cry?

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Why not? Imagine if you spent 20/hrs of your life on your hair and went home to "show off" to your kids your new look.

Instead of compliments, your children said "ewww" and bursted out laughing.

I mean, right when that "story" came out, Kate showed up with a new style. Instead of long and straight, it is now curly and wavy.

So yeah, I bet that story did happened and Kate did cry.

Mary said...

the kids can tell teachers now that Kate hits them with a spoon. so the spoon is gone

OzNTM said...

I'm leaning towards Kate as the answer to this Blind Item:

http://blindgossip.com/?p=15181

jibberjabbers said...

Ex Staffer Tells all...

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/kate_gosselin_mean_drunk_bodyguard_lover_jon_and_kate_plus_eight_/celebrity/66820

Magazine Scan

KyPastor said...

I can think of better ways to spend
20 hours and $7,000 than vanity. I don't care whose money it was, that is preposterous.

Francine said...

Kate Gosselin’s Shockingly Abusive and Degrading Body Language Behavior Towards Colin

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/

It says it all. It's very sad

steph said...

Sosugary Image Source???

SoSugary has photos from many, many paps and media sites. In addition to the ones you listed, they also have INFdaily. Whatever their source of photos, they certainly don't object to Sosugary posting them without giving credit - which is also very interesting.

steph said...

Re: Kate's comment about large debt in the People article -- I interpreted her to be backing the bus over Jon once again, inferring the debt was due to the divorce, etc.

steph said...

I wonder if the source for the comment about the twins laughing about Kate's hair might have come from Kate's BFF, Jamie. She already has contacts at a couple of the mags because of articles this past summer. Could be...

Canadian Mom said...

So yeah, I bet that story did happened and Kate did cry.

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Kate is inhuman. As in not capable of producing tears (unless a camera is present of course)...

jibberjabbers - I LOVE your 'action' photos!!

spoon in the car door said...

Joyce said:
There is no evidence or proof that Kate strikes her kids with a wooden spoon.

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Ya, you're right. She probably uses that wooden spoon to make monkey munch while waiting for the light to change.

Can't See Sheep said...

Laura B said...

They've had this van for how long now?? The little ones are 5 years old now...why not get a small step stool that can be tucked into the van and would allow the kids to climb in on their own"
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Because that would be thinking of someone other than herself & kate tends not to do those things. Also TLC probably hasn't purchased one & no one has given her a free one, she certainly isn't going to pay for one out of her own pocket. kate being considerate for anyone other than herself would just not be kate, her own children included.

Okay, those pics have irritated the hell out of me. kate needs to keep her hands off her kids until she gets herself some serious help. We don't see her lovingly touch her children but there are a growing number of examples of her putting her hands on them in anger, frustration & aggrivation & this is never good. We don't see the kids running to hug her or hanging onto her leg like they do with their dad. There are few pics of the kids smiling when they're with their mother & so many of them laughing & smiling with daddy. Her posture when with the kids is never warm & loving. She's yanking, she's grabbing, pulling, dragging, slapping, hitting & pushing. Never a REAL hug, not even an encouraging touch. This woman is without question an abuser, plain & simple.

It's very telling when when a person can only put their hands on their children in anger or frustration & so rarely in love & affection. I do not trust that harpy with those kids. I don't want one of those kids to have to end up in the hospital or worse for someone to do something, it's at a bad enough level as it is. She clearly has no qualms about doing this on camera, so what & how frequently are these things done off camera? It is so frustrating not being able to do a darn thing about this, just watching & worrying. These kids need to grow up quick & get out in self defence with this woman.

They must dread arriving at the bus stop & seeing their mother there. It's probably a relief for them when it's anyone but her.

Vanessa said...

She's back to using her old sympathy card claiming she has debt. It's the only thing she knows. At first the sob story was they had to scrounge for money in their couch just to pay the mortgage. Now she's a struggling "single" mother of EIGHT going through a DIVORCE people!! THAT'S why she's in debt, like all other "single" mothers who have to leave their children to "work" just so they can put food on the table (and enjoy a fat-free latte with 12 tsp of sugar a couple of times a day) It's the only line she knows, GIMME GIMME GIMME.

Gimme Gimme said...

Does anybody believe the stupid story that the twins laughed when they saw Kate's new hair and she went to her room to cry?

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I believe it as I believe her kids "despise" her and have their own little way of getting back at her for all the abuse and neglect and guilt that she heaps on them. I also believe that she spends a great deal of her time locked away from the kids in her dead-bolted master bedroom suite that the kids are not allowed to enter at the risk of "severeness" and we know what that means.

I also think that she got another cut as the one she is sporting now is not the one that was photographed for People and it actually looked much better then. If not for the roots one would think it could a be wig, due to its lack of movement and helmet type effect.

She did not like the hair, it was clear to see when the finished product was shown to her. She would have been kissing the mirror if she liked it. Intead she "didn't know what to say." She really loved her "angry lesbian hair," it was her, so yes, I do believe it.

YouWonAnIpod said...

OzNTM said...

I'm leaning towards Kate as the answer to this Blind Item:

http://blindgossip.com/?p=15181


I know at one point someone had said that there were pictures Kate would be worried about should they see the light of day, but i never heard of a video.

Gimme Gimme said...

Hard to keep loving Jon said..

There was NOT a smile in the group. Greeting my children after a day in school was always a happy time! THAT IS NOT A HAPPY FAMILY.......case closed

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I am really worried about Aaden. He seems to be fairing very poorly. He looks like a 40-year old man...very depressed...that is not good.

I hope the kids are indeed getting therapy. It is going to take a lot more than someone coming to the home. They need intensive therapy, and hopefully this person will recommend that. These children could not be filmed in the state they are in right now, and it is all downhill from here. Children don't climb up out of the abyss of loss of self-esteem/identity, neglect/abuse on their own. It will take a team of people working hard to bring these once delightful children back to their innocence. It is so disturbing.

I wish I had never watched the show and did not know about their plight. I hate Kate/TLC for pulling the wool over our eyes for as long as they did and when she could not longer hide it then just blatantly, under the watchful eyes of America started treating her children very badly, and getting by with it just empowered her more to bully her kids around.

A truly sad commentary.

IDModo said...

Re the National Enquirer Article: A much earlier poster speculated that Kate refused to give Mady a drink from her water bottle because it contained alcohol. Suuspicions Confirmed Department? I really wish that a source with more cred than the NE would come forward with this kind of information.
Where I live, the hitting with the plastic spoon would have to be reported to Child Welfare authorities and investigated as suspected abuse. Doesn't anyone in the vast army of TLC staffers have any integrity at all? To sit back and watch this behaviour is being complicit in it. Shame on them!

Tanya said...

How come there are no pics of Kate stooping or kneeling when interacting with her kids. She always bends at the waist, hovering.

Laura T said...

#1- We all saw the tups using the potty."snipped


Im not sure how i would feel as an older child/teen/adult knowing that there is footage of my mom taking a photo of me next to a potty, or pulling down my pants in front of a production crew to "check" me.
I dont think they are old enough to understand the reality of what went on during their early years. I wish them a soft landing when they do.

Midnight Serenade said...

"Who else could have seen and reported that ridiculous scenario?"

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How about the children at school, who told other children, who told their parents, and the word got out?

laura linger said...

She looks very uncomfortable with that hair. Sad to say, it does resemble a wig, and not a very good wig, at that. It's not a very practical style. At least with the short horror, she could wash it, dry it, and go about being a mother.

pinkdiamond611 said...

Re: The blind item. All I can say is ewwww and with who? And to change the subject, yes, teachers are mandated reporters. Is corporal punishment by parents legal in PA? It is in NY. So it might not be illegal to spank your child in PA, but it certainly doesn't fit the image of "perfect" can do clean slate Khate. The Khate brand is worthless.

dee said...

Just read an item on blind gossip about a sex tape that may point to good ole Kate. Interesting, that item and the comment on here from "someone who knows" that Jon has some info he's waiting to drop on the world.

Jacsamic said...

Yank me up by the arm like that and I would kick you.

Why in the world is nothing being done to monitor/change Katie Irene's treatment of those defenseless children?

Just do not understand how this continues.

Shame on you Kate. Shame on you.

2badsosad said...

Kate Gosselin’s Shockingly Abusive and Degrading Body Language Behavior Towards Colin

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/

Im sure Ms. Kate will justify her actions on the grounds of what SHE 'deems appropriate'

PA Woman said...

There's also the private school tuition for 8 kids, the UT and NY condos & new cars for Jon and Kate's new SUV. I would venture to guess a good bit of the freebies have dried up, if not because the companies are not getting their air time anymore on J&K+8, then because it seems silly to send free juice to a family that lives on an estate.

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Jon and Kate's lifestyles definitely was outliving their income, no doubt about it.

I do have a question about some of the expenses you cite. The NYC condo, wasn't that leased by Jon not purchased? In fact, hasn't he moved out or is in the process of moving out?

The Utah condo. I read he was in Utah looking at condos. For that matter we saw pictures of him looking at houses for sale in LA. Where is it documented he actually purchased a condo in Utah? Please provide the link. I'm just curious because I never saw that he actually purchased one, just that he was considering it. I would think he would spend a lot more time in Utah if he had purchased a condo. Plus, ROL says he moved in with his new girl friend because he has no place to stay (yeah, I know they are not to be trusted, but). So if he owns a condo, why wouldn't he stay there. Just curious.

Brummygirl said...

jibberjabbers said...
Ex Staffer Tells all...

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Well, well. They have begun to come out of the woodwork. Much as I take what the Enquirer says with a pinch of salt, true or not, in the public's eyes it throws a slur on Kate.
I wonder if there will be any more law suits over this.
The funny part is, the GWOP'ers called all three of these scenarios months ago.
I take it this is a current issue as it has the Golden Globe Awards link on the front.
Hmmm...wonder what Steve's wife will think now.
Boozy Bimbo Kate still going plastic with the spoon!!!

jibberjabbers said...

Anyone notice how after Kate was getting creamed over the bus pickup, SoSugary has a few pics up with Kate "smiling and trying to be affectionate to the kids".

Am I dreaming...or are they? said...

I don't often look off this site for "gosselin" info, but is it confirmed that Jon is actually dating another girl? We have seen pics of Jon grilling on a hood of a car and bar-hopping with Kevin; but as for the girl who is supposedly "glued" to his side...? Is there any merit to this claim (other than EVERY tabloid reporting it)?

Thanks ;)

itsaboutthekids said...

I would like to see a photo of Kate hugging or kissing even one of the eight kids. It's not a vision that readily comes to mind.

Vanessa said...

Yes! I noticed one day she's miserable with that scowl on her face, the next she's smiling, kissing and hugging! We've seen this MANY times before, damage control that doesn't quite hit the mark. She's so UN-genuine, so transparent, so OBVIOUS.

Avas said...

Don't like the hair at all. She looks like Rick Flair the wrestler. Too bulky, thick and mannish on top for her to try to look feminine. Plus she is too old.Sorry.

fidosmommy said...

I just went back to sosugary and saw the bus pick-up pictures from January 6. Entirely different scenario. Kate smiles, she helps one of the little girls in by lifting her under both arms, she allows a boy to scramble into the van by himself, and looks like she's sharing a light moment with two of the little girls. I caught a couple of smiles from kids, too.

However, while the Gosselin 8 are
standing around in front of the bus door, there are other children still on the bus. They can only get off when the Gosselins MOVE!
Rudeness is being taught to these children by their extraordinarly rude mother. And other children are being exposed to the paps at these photo ops. Unfair.

MaryB said...

Sadly no amount of excellent therapy will negate the effects of ongoing abuse Kate spews on her children.
My heart hurts for those little ones.

Halo24 said...

Katie Irene stopping little Collin from breathing.

http://gosselins.sosugary.com/displayimage.php?album=376&pos=8

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YouWonAnIpod said...
OzNTM said...

I'm leaning towards Kate as the answer to this Blind Item:

http://blindgossip.com/?p=15181

I know at one point someone had said that there were pictures Kate would be worried about should they see the light of day, but i never heard of a video.

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Just read the blind item.... OMG if she does have a tape out there, can just see her out there trolling the porn convention circuit... for the sake of the kids of course....

Reading news said...

Here we go back to the weather appropriate clothing for these kids. On the latest pics posted on sosugary we see Jon wearing what appears to be a heavy winter coat. The pics were taken recently because they show the kids playing in what is left of a snow pile so probably taken last weekend. Some kids have coats, some in little sweatshirts and some with no coats at all. On Sunday the rain was very heavy here so would have washed what was left of the snow away. God, is there anyone who really pays attention to these poor little kids?

jibberjabbers said...

itsaboutthekids said...

I would like to see a photo of Kate hugging or kissing even one of the eight kids. It's not a vision that readily comes to mind.

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This is what happens when Kate tries to hug her kids. They're just not use to it.

Mady walking away smirking

NT said...

Everyone whos says that her hair looks like a wig,you are all correct. It is a wig. Her hair was so short that most of her hair now is a wig. Am I wrong?

Can't See Sheep said...

dee said...

Just read an item on blind gossip about a sex tape that may point to good ole Kate.
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Like people really need to have their eyes burnt out of their skulls. The thought of that is just plain awful, kate Gosselin porn, whether it's pics or a tape, ewwww just does not describe it & a part of me inside is screaming in complete & utter horror. What's she doing following in the footsteps of paris? I definitely don't want to see kate porn, I shudder at the thought of it. Yuck, it leaves me feeling like I used to when I had to take cod liver oil.

Maybe kate put it out there, I can see her continuing to want to pose for playboy, I just can't see them calling her. Larry Flynt on the other hand...

laura linger said...
It's not a very practical style. At least with the short horror, she could wash it, dry it, and go about being a mother.
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Now I like that name for kate's possum head, the short horror. Too bad she wasn't shorter it could be used to describe her & her hair cut. Oh skip it, it works for both anyway. Nice one laura linger.

chesterctymom said...

itsaboutthekids said...

I would like to see a photo of Kate hugging or kissing even one of the eight kids. It's not a vision that readily comes to mind.


That will be tomorrow after TLC reads this site...

fidosmommy said...

Sorry, I'm not believing Kate has a sex video anywhere. Unless some pervert set up a camera in her shower, I don't believe we're going to be seeing much more of her than we've already seen when she's dressed.

dustilies said...

Jacsamic said . . .

Yank me up by the arm like that and I would kick you.
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And my kids would kick me if I did that, or "mashed" their mouths. (They are 7 and 10)

My kids are not as obedient as I would sometimes like, but I am proud that they have a sense of self, and call me on it when I disrespect their integrity and rights. Kate seems hellbent on breaking their spirits.

I think Dr. Glassman sometimes comes off as a kook, but her essay on Kate and Colin at the bus stop is well reasoned and uses evidence from the photos to back up her points.

I can't even imagine what it is like to drop off and pick up 8 kids for school every day. Really, I get it that 8 kids, bursting with the good and bad news of the day, the injustices of busmates and siblings, demands for snacks, fresh boo-boos, homework hassles, is an overwhelming bundle of kid-energy. But why doesn't Kate get it that the best and fastest way to get them out of the bus and into the van is to greet them smiling, have some sort of system or game for getting then into their seats--in other words manage the situation instead of reacting to every problem with drama and negativity.

Two clueless idiots said it best:

Even if I've had to scramble to get there, and I'm exhausted when I arrive at school to pick up, and have a multitude of things to get done between 3:00 and bedtime, I make a huge deal about how happy I am to see them.

PA Woman said...

Am I dreaming...or are they? said...
I don't often look off this site for "gosselin" info, but is it confirmed that Jon is actually dating another girl? We have seen pics of Jon grilling on a hood of a car and bar-hopping with Kevin; but as for the girl who is supposedly "glued" to his side...? Is there any merit to this claim (other than EVERY tabloid reporting it)?

Thanks ;)

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All the reports about Jon and his "new girlfriend" Morgan come from the tabloids/tabloid websites. I think we only know the truth if it comes from Jon or Morgan. Jon can't talk, and Morgan isn't talking (good for her!!). After putting up with Kate, Jon deserves a good relationship. Although I think it would be better if he stays away from relationships for a while and give himself time to come back to reality, I do hope he finds someone that makes his life happy and worthwhile.

texas two step said...

jibberjabbers said...
itsaboutthekids said...

I would like to see a photo of Kate hugging or kissing even one of the eight kids. It's not a vision that readily comes to mind.

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This is what happens when Kate tries to hug her kids. They're just not use to it.

Mady walking away smirking

------------------1/18/2010 1:12 PM

Now folks you can not deny those ARE some hooker shoes.... Red leather jacket kinda screams porn star too.... maybe there IS a tape out there.... afterall, she's been dressing the part.

dustilies said...

Here's another thing about the mouth mashing and the wasy she steers them by their heads.

I study and teach Chinese martial arts, and when people get to the level of sparring (after a few years of study in our traditional school), there's always something to learn about being struck in the head or face. When you get hit in the head, it tends to make you really, really mad, despite the padding and the fact that you know the person sparring with you, and they are pulling their punches. Head and face strikes bring up a lot of emotion--some people loose their cool and start flailing, others start crying, others start verbally attacking their opponent. We teach people to recognize, anticipate, and manage those feelings (if you give in to them, you lose the match every time).

So if grown-ups feel strong, frightening emotions well up when they are tapped on the head, how much worse for a little kid having their "head space" physically violated by an adult?

Kate (and Jon's) cluelessness in finding positive ways to discipline and control their brood appalls me. If I discovered I was pregnant with multiples, one of the first things I would do would be to reach out to people who know how to take care of groups of children at the same age (like nursery school teachers) and ask them to teach me techniques and a bunch of child group psychology.

"Proactive" seems to be a totally alien concept to Kate. And Jon's better, but not great. Poor kids--the chaos of their family doesn't seem like a happy, freewheeling kind at all.

N.E. Psychologist said...

Fidosmommy said
Sorry, I'm not believing Kate has a sex video anywhere. (snipped).
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I agree. If they're refering to Kate, I'd bet on a video of her beating the crap out on one or more of the kids. I read somewhere that
tlc camera crews had to stop filming on occasion because her behavior was so awful.

Aeris said...

I saw a new set of pics on So Sugary of Jon playing with some of the kids outside. Nice pictures, but it's shocking to see a few of the kids with their coats off. I couldn't help but notice one or two of the girl tups wearing the fleece, lime-green tops with the little ruffled edge. We first saw the girls wearing these during the skating lesson in Utah. In Feb./March of 2008. I hope these kids are indeed growing - is it normal for a 5-year old to fit into something she wore at 3 years old?

Gimme Gimme said...

I looked at the damage control pics on SoSugary. Those are older, they were taken before the reveal of the hair affair. That is the top she was wearing that day that made everyone wonder if she was pregnant and the hair was still undercover. She must have known the TLC paps were going to be there that day,leading up to the cover reveal because she is obviously putting on a show flashing the pearly whites.

Pony said...

I'm not that concerned about the lack of heavy coat on some of the kids as they played outside. The sun seems to be shining, it might have been in the 40's. My kids frequently were perfectly comfortable in a sweatshirt or longsleeve tee shirt if they were playing outside in that kind of weather. I'd be bundled up and they'd be laughing at me. I think different kids have different thermostats. (The definition of a sweater: something a child wears when his/her mother is cold.) They were right outside their house. If they got cold, they could have gone in and found a coat.

As for corporal punishment being legal in Pennsylvania - good question. It recently was outlawed in PA schools, but in most states parents are allowed to spank children as long as it isn't "excessive" or "abusive" - which can vary from locale to locale. In my state, the line between "discipline" and "abuse" is drawn at "does it break the skin or leave a mark?". If it does, it's reportable and considered abuse. If it doesn't, then it's allowed by law. In some states, only an open palm may be used to spank a child; implements such as hair brushes, switches, belts, and spoons would not be allowed. My guess is "spanking" a child with a wooden or plastic spoon would be a fairly ineffective method of teaching a child how to behave well. It would probably do a good job of teaching a child to fear the parent.

WhoDidWhatFirst said...

Aeris said...
I saw a new set of pics on So Sugary of Jon playing with some of the kids outside. Nice pictures, but it's shocking to see a few of the kids with their coats off. I couldn't help but notice one or two of the girl tups wearing the fleece, lime-green tops with the little ruffled edge. We first saw the girls wearing these during the skating lesson in Utah. In Feb./March of 2008. I hope these kids are indeed growing - is it normal for a 5-year old to fit into something she wore at 3 years old?
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No, it isn't normal but I think it has more to do with a mother who doesn't devote any time to her kids or her kids' clothing. If they are still hanging in a closet or in the case of the Gosselins, on hooks in the entryway to their home, the kids probably just grab them and squeeze themselves into them. Remember that happened once before when they first moved into the McMansion. John was taking them outside and couldn't find their coats because no one had bothered to unpack. Obviously, Kate doesn't possess the organizational skills she pretends to have. What a loser!!!

WhoDidWhatFirst said...

texas two step said...
Now folks you can not deny those ARE some hooker shoes.... Red leather jacket kinda screams porn star too.... maybe there IS a tape out there.... afterall, she's been dressing the part.
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I am definitely not defending Kate but I will defend her red leather jacket. First of all, it isn't a true red - more of a burgundy tone - and nothing "hookerish" about it. I have seen it on her at Target and it is actually very nice looking. The last time I mentioned this on here I was accused of being Kate or a sheepie. I am not either - just someone who recognized a very expensive leather jacket.

TPoV said...

I was just caught a few minutes of an old episode...it was the backyard campout in the OLD house. The turned the camera and steve was standing there! They didn't blur his face or anything! Why did they need a bodyguard on their own property!?

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