New Article About Jon


170 comments:

Big Flap O' Hair said...

Really interesting story - more evidence of the overall freakshow that was Jon & Kate Plus Eight.

Charlie Rose said...

What a schlep. Jon still insists his children are a "brand."

I am hoping beyond hope that the Gosselins go away. I think everyone has had enough.

ToTheMoonAlice said...

Ye gods!!! Where did they get that picture?!?!

hmm said...

2 things i read in this article:-

He was laid off because his company could not afford the insurance
AND
The tlc corporation found them.

I read somewhere on this blog that his old boss is on record as saying her was fired (before babies were born) becase he was doing non work stuff during working hours.

And didn't Kate say she and Jon sent tapes out first

dustilies said...

Finally, an article that lets Jon tell things from his perspective. Not that he's not spinning like mad.

LIke, I noticed the writer reported that he was fired from the IT job bcse insurance was too expensive. I'd heard here that it was about low productivity and spending too much time on the internet arranging gift cards and freebies.

But what gives me the worst sinking feeling is all the info about him reading the tab articles about himself and Hailey and him spending a lot of time on the internet reading about themselves. Espeically when he is quoted saying that he and Kate could have made a lot more money if they had stayed together (does he mean a sham marriage for "the brand"?).

I want to have faith in him as the better parent, but he sure is making it tough.

I do believe in Jonny, I do, I do.
Maybe if we all say it, he'll become a real person again. A guy with no direction, but with potential instead of a beaten down guy heading in the wrong direction.

Type (little) a said...

Did I read that right? That if Kate would only "work with him" instead of TLC then they could improve their "brand" together???

So him pulling the kids off the air was a business tactic after all. Not a concerned father's impassioned plea for privacy for his kids, but a power play. Nice.

I have a few choice expletives for this man that would pretty much guarantee that this comment won't pass moderation, so I'll refrain.

Vanessa said...

Say what you want, Jon IS who he is. He at least doesn't pretend to be doing all this for anything other than the CHACHING$$. Slimey? Yes! Opportunist? Yes!
But he owns up to all of it. Khate on the other hand...

Darcy said...

hmm said...
2 things i read in this article:-

He was laid off because his company could not afford the insurance
AND
The tlc corporation found them.

I read somewhere on this blog that his old boss is on record as saying her was fired (before babies were born) becase he was doing non work stuff during working hours.

And didn't Kate say she and Jon sent tapes out first

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Hmmm, you're exactly right - the article is totally incorrect on those facts. As a former journalism major, I'm beyond shocked at how little fact-checking is being done at mainstream pubs these days (forget the tabloids!).

As for Jon and his brand. Talk about distorted thinking. He and Khate are both delusional about who/what they are.

barbee said...

The 'former' boss has corrected the gosselin's comment about being jon being let go because they didn't want to insure a family of 10 (stated he actually was doing non-work on work time) and kate herself stated she had been 'searching' places to send tapes of the family (she decided before the tups were born they would be money generators). this couple were scam artists from the getgo and as anything is expendable, kate has gotten rid of all unnecessary baggage along the way, family, friends, crews, jon, and soon, kids won't be needed for the 'kate show', so they'll go too.

BH said...

I believe the big ole' flap-o-hair gal also has referred to her "brand". She and Jon picked that up from their PR people (public relations).

I'd like to brand both of them "LOSERS" right across their foreheads.

my9cats said...

I put this on a different thread. Ooops!
This is what I sent to NY Mag:

"As usual, fact-checking goes out the window with the media. I mean, REALLY, why should we believe anything the media writes when they get their info from tabloids. Case-in-point: Jon was NOT laid off due to health insurance coverage. This would be ILLEGAL and they would have grounds to sue, which they haven't. As per Jon's boss, Jon was terminated for not showing up for work, and when he did, trying to drum up freebies on the internet. The Discovery Channel did NOT approach the Gosselins until after they made a video and shopped it to various stations. This is per Kate. I'm sure there are more non-facts in the article but I was so annoyed at people who claim to be reporters that do not do their homework, I jumped right in to comments. EARN YOUR PAY and do fact-checking before presenting something as fact."

Melissa said...

I'm not sure I want to read this - the picture is scaring me. Is he an alien?
Will someone come hold my hand?

Vanessa said...

LOL Melissa! That made me laugh!

dustilies said...

Melissa said...

I'm not sure I want to read this - the picture is scaring me. Is he an alien?
Will someone come hold my hand?

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Be afraid, Melissa. Be very afraid.

The reporter calls his eyes "lime green."

By cracky, Kate wasn't kidding about the alien thing.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Sadly, he reminds me of a lost dog, wandering, wandering, hoping someone will take him in.

Success in the media world (or stroller design or furniture spokesdad) is unlikely.

His current lack of training and talent = few viable employment opportunities. ESPECIALLY in the places he's looking. He certainly is taking an odd path for someone who claimed at the conclusion of season 4 that he wanted out of the spotlight.


My guess is he'll hook up with Kate, The Sequel, and sooner than later. He does not seem to have made sufficient emotional growth progress to have learned from his initial marital choice, so seems destined to make the same mistake next time by picking yet another woman who will tell him when to jump and how high, and then proceed to criticize every aspect of his jump. He seems the kind of person who is more amenable to reliving this outcome than facing life independently on his own.

So long as he continues to spend his energy seeking life in the media, odds are hugely against him. He needs to wise up and SOON.

Lost dogs can end up in bad places. And owned by those who do not have the dog's best interest at heart.

Neither Kate nor Jon have a bright horizon, so long as they remain unwilling to return to their REAL, middle class, life of obscurity. They HAD reality. Before TLC. Now they have nothing but quicksand as far as the eye can see.

From this vantage in Ohio, things do not look good for either Jon or Katan.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Type little a said, "Did I read that right? That if Kate would only "work with him" instead of TLC then they could improve their "brand" together???

So him pulling the kids off the air was a business tactic after all. Not a concerned father's impassioned plea for privacy for his kids, but a power play. Nice."

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I also find the statement that Boteach 'doesn't think it LOOKS GOOD' for him to be with a girlfriend right now disturbing. Doesn't sound a whole lot different than Dr. Phil Of Himself explaining over dinner how to hang onto the Gosselin brand.

It'll take a modern day miracle for those 8 kids to grow up happy, stable, & healthy with these two parents at the helm.

Sad any way you look at it.

Leroy said...

So Jon wakes up everyday, walks around to see if he's in the tabloids, takes photos with random people and then hangs at his lawyers and publisists place?

Does he think he can do this for the next 30 yrs?

What is he waiting on/for?

Come on Jon, at least take a short term class or course.
Trust me on this- you will get the respect of your "people", your kids and the public.

Mary said...

Just before Jon met Kate he said he was just bumming around with no goals.

One marriage and 8 kids later he seems to be back in the same place.

Lily said...

Furniture by Jon-
whose dresser knobs don't come out..

Maybe said...

've heard this as a rumor, but did Jon's former boss really say this?? Because it is also ILLEGAL to disclose why anyone was terminated from a job. So his former bosses statement is ILLEGAL.
I've been involved in lawsuits after layoffs/terminations and making any such statement would be a big no-no.
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I think the boss went public after J and K would tell the "lay-off" story at their 25,000 a pop church talks.

He said they went to court over this, maybe the court records are public? Just guessing

More said...

Type (little) a said...
Did I read that right? That if Kate would only "work with him" instead of TLC then they could improve their "brand" together???

______________________
Kate could not even sit next to him on a couch and show him common respect.
Why would she want to be in buisness with you

Katie really threw you under the bus . Why would you want to be in busienss with her

hmm... said...

Jon seems to be a bit lazy or just a sheep.

He followed Kate around until she blasted him out.

Now he follows his lawyer and publisist.

Can he think or do anything for himself?

Go back to school, forge your own career, one not in the media. become your own person.

my9cats said...

PA woman said:

I've heard this as a rumor, but did Jon's former boss really say this?? Because it is also ILLEGAL to disclose why anyone was terminated from a job. So his former bosses statement is ILLEGAL.
I've been involved in lawsuits after layoffs/terminations and making any such statement would be a big no-no.


I guess his boss and fellow co-workers got tired of the lies. It was in the Reading something. Sorry, don't remember the whole name. Could it be Eagle?
Somewhere there was an interview with Jon's ex-boss.

N.E. Psychologist said...

BH said:
I believe the big ole' flap-o-hair gal also has referred to her "brand". She and Jon picked that up from their PR people (public relations).
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Jon said in some article or on a show that when they met with Dr. Phil he advised them to stay together for "their brand." At the time he was quite angry at this advice. I had hope, I really did......

Merrilee said...

I wish that photographer would have taken Kate's pics too. This is the ugliest picture ever!!

YuckyPlucky said...

"E W wwwwwww!!!"

Him looks AW-FUL!

Blech.

Susan said...

Holy crap. After all this time and all of the humiliatingly obvious machinations through which he/they have been put, he still doesn't comprehend that he's the one that's being used - by just about everyone he associates with. He sees it. It's in his face with every move he makes and he STILL doesn't get it.

On the other side of the divorce arbitration table, and oddly, given what we've seen of her obsession with control, Kate knows who's in charge and that it's in no way her. She sold out herself and her kids for the almighty buck and, to all appearances, is quite happy with that; positively smug, in fact, travelling in the fast lane of the high road to Sellout Central.

Jon, though, wow. Just wow. He will kiss any butt, smile any smile and lie any lie, still thinking that he might be making some indelible mark on the world.

Okay, so, he is; but how proud could those kids ever be of "Dad, the professional brown-noser?" Role model, my butt. He's making choices, with more consciousness but no more conscience that his soon-to-be ex-wife. Jon Gosselin is a slacker and a putz. A plutz. Straight goods.

Just.....Holy Crap! Okay, I'll stop now. I shook my head so much while reading that article, I am hearing rattling.

PA Woman said...

Maybe said...
've heard this as a rumor, but did Jon's former boss really say this?? Because it is also ILLEGAL to disclose why anyone was terminated from a job. So his former bosses statement is ILLEGAL.
I've been involved in lawsuits after layoffs/terminations and making any such statement would be a big no-no.
_____________________
I think the boss went public after J and K would tell the "lay-off" story at their 25,000 a pop church talks.

He said they went to court over this, maybe the court records are public? Just guessing

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Hmmmm, any trial concerning loss of job may start up in court, but 99 percent of the time gets settled out of court so the details don't go public. I'm surprised the State Of PA didn't hit his boss with a huge fine for making that statment.

Jill said...

What a douche. This guy seriously thinks that he's that important in this world, does he? He and Kate deserve each other. "Brand" my arse!

PA Woman said...

my9cats said...

I guess his boss and fellow co-workers got tired of the lies. It was in the Reading something. Sorry, don't remember the whole name. Could it be Eagle?
Somewhere there was an interview with Jon's ex-boss.

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I guess I should have responded to this one instead. His former co-workers said something too? It is illegal for the company (i.e. his boss as representative) to disclose to anyone why he was terminated, and that includes his former co-workers. So how did they even know why he was fired??

I'm sorry, whether you agree with it or not, this laws were put in place to protect people and they all should have been hit with heavy fines for disclosing this information.

She's come undone said...

Yes, his former boss really said this. He was interviewed in person and set the record straight. He also stated that it was a matter of public record and could be verified so I guess at that point he wasn't worried about being sued. He was referring to the paperwork sent to the state unemployment office in order for Jon to collect unemployment. In fact, he almost made it sound as though he was going after them for lying about the dismissal. This all came out about a year ago when a reputable (imageine that!)journalist interviewed Jon's former boss for an article she was writing. It was also mentioned in an article in the Reading newspaper and later he appeared on a television interview. Jon lies. In addition, someone on this site (also a long time ago) posted a copy of the letter Kate used to "shop" for a show. Just like Jon's shirt says, "Lies, Lies, Lies."

Ohio Buckeye said...

Just looked again at this pics: WTH IS IT with both Gosselins and the Spikes O'Death hair?????

On another note, I'd hate to be in Katan/Jon's shoes on The Day of Reckoning: when they have to explain to their 8 kids why they frittered away all that hard-earned cash on mansions, uptown NYC apts, expensive meals and hotels for themselves, foobs, clothes & cars, and various STAFFS (nannies, gardeners, cleaning agencies, managers, $$$LAWYER$$$, agents, security, etc.), when all they really had to do was re-assume their NORMAL and REAL life and bankroll the bucks for the kids, just like they've blathered on and on about all along this incredibly self destructive path they've both chosen.

Two dogs.
BOTH BARKING UP THE WRONG TREE.

Melissa said...

My best friend, Joe, died last week,” he says with a somber tone. Taking the last pull on his cigarette, Gosselin has an epiphany. “He knew me better than anybody.” Just two days ago, Gosselin drove directly from his divorce proceedings to his friend’s bedside, where he promised his friend he would look out for his daughter.


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Oh, lordy. That's like the blind leading the blind.
"Hey, you can't take care of your own eight, but hows about making sure my daughter is okay after I'm dead?"

I foresee trouble for this little girl. I just hope her mom has enough sense to keep her the hell away from this train wreck.
Otherwise he'll probably pitch a new TV show - "Jon the Godfather".

hack hack hack GAG ME.

Brazil said...

He said they went to court over this, maybe the court records are public? Just guessing

Yes, they did go to court and yes the court case would be public. That's how one of the tabloids found the info.

Can't See Sheep said...

This is not good, not good at all. Looks like the Gosselin 8 will have to grow up very quickly in their own self defense, because they need someone willing to make the right decisions & neither adult in that family is going to do it. He needs to get a grip & go back to school or go teach snowboarding somewhere. The 8 have started out life with two very large & foolish handicaps it seems.

rural mom said...

What an industry! The writer doesn't bother fact checking on Jon, just pulls stuff off the internet to provide the background material. Then we have Jon and Hailey and the Hellers trying to figure out how to make as much money as possible off public scrutiny. Then there is Kate and her management team doing the same. A bunch of slack jawed no talents all round!

No Drama Mama said...

Here is the article:

http://slashgossip.com/2009/05/27/jon-gosselin-former-employer-speaks/

Not sure if the person who spoke out was the owner of the company. He was referred to as Jon's supervisor in the article.

No Drama Mama said...

http://www.phillymag.com/articles/jon_and_kate_gosselin/page4

Another link to the article which states that David Rothermel is the owner. Scroll down to last paragraph.

trpiper said...

This pic could be the movie poster for "ET 2" LOL!!!

my9cats said...

PA Woman said...

my9cats said...

I guess his boss and fellow co-workers got tired of the lies. It was in the Reading something. Sorry, don't remember the whole name. Could it be Eagle?
Somewhere there was an interview with Jon's ex-boss.

************

I guess I should have responded to this one instead. His former co-workers said something too? It is illegal for the company (i.e. his boss as representative) to disclose to anyone why he was terminated, and that includes his former co-workers. So how did they even know why he was fired??

I'm sorry, whether you agree with it or not, this laws were put in place to protect people and they all should have been hit with heavy fines for disclosing this information.
12/07/2009 2:50 PM


Yes laws were put in place to protect people from libel and slander, both of which the Gosselins have done to Jon's ex-boss. This poor man, I am sure, has been vilified at churches all over the country for firing poor innocent Jon. NOT. I haven't read the book, Multiple Cashcows so I can't comment as to whether it was written in there too. Someone could fill me in there. Either way, to the Gosselins POV, if you tell a lie often enough it becomes the truth. The Gosselins are specialists in this. And they get away with it due to the lack of integrity and diligence of the media by refusing to do what any legitimate journalist would do- investigate and fact-check. Not blithely copying from the tabloids. This is another myth perpetuated by the Gosselins and they should be called out on it. At the very least issue a public apology to the boss. Yeah right.

Megan said...

Wow - I've pretty much lost all hope I ever had in Jon looking out for the best interests of the G8.

He came off like a 16 year old - confident, arrogant, and downright clueless. Don't even get me started on the comment he made "Jews are cool as s**t". Seriously Jon? That's the best way you can express yourself?


He and Katan are two clueless idiots so obsessed with themselves that their priorities are completely out of whack.

gross.

cmon jon! said...

I have supported Jon on this blog and others and sympathize with this man as his horrid wife and TLC take him apart. But the man is not helping himself here, not at all. He is by all reports sweet and likeable, but this whole "I'm a star" thing is grating. He talks waaaay too much; is too trusting of everyone. Another poster said that at least he is who he is; no bullshit. And that's admirable. But cmon, dude, some discretion! Sure, most celebs probably read their own press and try to market themselves, but they pretend that they don't. Jon is so open, but shouldn't be, at least with the press. Even though he has said nothing awful, it just makes him sound like such a douche that he works his fame. He really needs a GOOD PR team, someone to guide him. He is gonna blab himself out of any potential to make a living. I keep praying for him; he seems to be so lost, yet still decent inside.

Mikey said...

Jill said...
What a douche. This guy seriously thinks that he's that important in this world, does he? He and Kate deserve each other. "Brand" my arse!
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It seems he takes that "most photographed" (a per couple of months ago) title very seriously.

It's so sad. He's lost with out Katie directing him, so now he's following his lawyer and agent around like a puppy.

The lawyers are gonna keep him in legal battle as long as they can get fees from him.

The agents will tell him there's something out there for him as long as they can get fees from him.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Dustilies said the reporter called Jon's eyes "lime green".

Maybe that was a typo.

Maybe the reporter's eye color descriptor was actually "lie green".

Do either Jon or Katan even remember how to tell the truth anymore?

Anonymous said...

This article really confirmed the idea of Jon that I already had: a fundamentally average guy seeking wealth and consumed with his "brand" (public perception). Why do or be anything if the world isn't watching? I really think that Kate and Jon are very similar in this way and belong together, but she mistakenly thought that they could maintain their "brand" image and when he blew that, she thinks her "brand" will survive as a single mother.

I really think that media studies will use the Gosselins as a prime example of our celebrity/publicity-obsessed culture. Just look at the people he surrounds himself with: "Heller initiates a screen saver on the large flat-screen television. The video rapidly rotates and fades in and out of pictures of Mike Heller in the back of limos with celebrities, at parties with celebrities, and in candid photos with celebrities." This is just another person obsessed with "being known" than real substance as a person.

I watched a few of J&K Plus 8 tv shows, never seen them on any interview shows (except some links provided here of excerpts), and I've never bought a tabloid. However, even I'm interested in knowing where they, and especially their kids, will be five, ten, twenty years from now. I supposed we can't completely escape that "culture" we're in. I know I'll likely check out one of the kids' "tell alls" that we know they'll write as adults, but other than that, I'm going to try my best to be complely Gosselin free from now on!

Ohio Buckeye said...

Thanks, "Anonymous," for such a well written post!

The part of the article noting Heller's screen saver on his large flat screen disturbed me, too.

Sadly, Jon has made himself into a loser magnet. The future's looking dim for Jon if he doesn't forego the 'get rich quick' goal and go instead for a 'get SMART quick' plan.

He is circling the toilet bowl....

Tammy said...

And I used to think that he was the more stable parent. Those kids don't have a snowball's chance in hell of a good life with those two idiots for parents! He only sees his children as his meal ticket. Unbelievable!

School.of.Hard.Work said...

I cannot help but wonder why that every blogger/ gossip site is trashing Jon, Yet, no trash or pics of Kate anywhere. It is almost like it is Arranged. Also, I really don't think Jon realizes how stupid he sounds when he speaks. Keep in mind, he has listened to kate coach, put words in his mouth, see things her way,"STAND WITH ME" for so many years, that I believe that he may think if he comes off with something near what she would say he may find success just as kate is trying to do. I also believe Kate is the one who called the "paps" the night Jon was seen with that deanna hummell, especially since she gave him strict orders to stay home! because I don't think the paps were hanging out in PA. before then. It is just so very strange that there is so much more Kate could be called out on and isn't . Almost like its being intercepted by her peps. I think Jon is a little lost, we all know how men are, especially husbands, they can't do anything without us! Ha ha

GoPoshGo said...

Is he looking in a spoon? Maybe a Christmas ornament?

GoPoshGo said...

Ohio Buckeye said...
Dustilies said the reporter called Jon's eyes "lime green".

Maybe that was a typo.

Maybe the reporter's eye color descriptor was actually "lie green".

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As Shakespeare warned, beware of the green-eyed monster....

Brummygirl said...

Goodness gracious...Jon has "gone Hollywood!!" He caught Kate's stardom disease.
I had marginal confidence in this man's parental guidance, but his comment about if he and Kate cooperated it would have been good for the brand and make more money has just nixed that.
So he is surrounding himself with moral role models???? Oh Jon, they will push you into bankruptcy before you can blink your "lime green eyes".
I said it before and I say it again, he is lost out there, out of his depth and believes what anyone tells him because it is safer for him rather than believe he is nothing of importance.
Jon, you are really important to eight little ones who need you to step up, stop acting like an idiot, they have to depend on someone and I would rather it be you than the "Hollow Queen!!"
If it is true you surf the net for stories, I am sure you must have been on here. If this is the case, there is lots of good advice on here from people who care about your children's welfare and the best thing is....we do not charge!!!

bristlecone said...

Jon could have learned a lot of lessons in the last year, sadly he only seems to learn how to repeat them.

A Sad Life For Jon said...

One of the dads of another set of tups quit his job and did a public speaking circuit before giving up and going back to normal life. Eventually Jon will have to do this. Why don't these clowns just wise up? He and Kate both know they have no talent but they won't give up dreams of being famous for nothing.

Canadian Mom said...

However did Jon overlook the opportunity to create his own fragrance??

He could call it Desperation.

I'm sure smelling it...

Can't See Sheep said...

cmon jon! said...
He really needs a GOOD PR team, someone to guide him. He is gonna blab himself out of any potential to make a living. I keep praying for him; he seems to be so lost, yet still decent inside.
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I'm in the same boat as you are, I've been defending him & hoping he'll turn things around for himself & make a nice private life for his children. He is too trusting & he does need someone with his best interests in mind rather than just their own & whatever they can get out of him by associating with him & propping him up. He needs to be gagged until he can find someone to instruct him in what to say, how to say it & when to say it, because he's not doing well on his own, not by a long shot.

He needs a PR firm & an agent where the people are happy working in their job & not trying to look famous by being being around or aiding the famous. People who realize that it's their job to make other's look a particular way in the public eye. The people he has around him right now, just seem to be milking the situation for whatever they can get. It smacks of unprofessionalism. Yes, be proud of your job, show off what you do, but I don't get the feeling that, that's what Jon's agent is doing. The more I hear about him, the less I like him & the greasier he seems to me.

The lawyer doesn't strike me as being a whole lot better. Is much known about him other than the 'son of Sam' case? I thought lawyers tended to be proud of their track records, how well they did in court, how many cases they were successful in & so on. Other lawyers have high profile case but I've heard them mention other cases they've also done really well on, that they've been particularly proud about. Both Hellars strike me as fame seekers.

And yes, it does seem very odd that the paparazzi seemed to turn up in PA to get those pics of Jon when he first started his bad behaviour. Why would they just turn up in PA unless tipped off? I don't mean to insult PA but it's not exactly a hotbed of activity conducive to paparazzi earning a good bit of cash. No reason for them to just hang out & wait really unless they know there's something for them to be there for. Not likely real paps & if any of them were at one point it was because someone tipped them off/ set it up. Just like this article on Jon turning up with it's poorly checked facts. Something doesn't smell exactly right about it & does seem contrived.

Something else I'm also confused on. When was the Super bowl ads offered? I couldn't' find it the article. Also for those who understand or know about TV contracts, can they control what Jon does even after they've fired him? Doesn't' firing render his agreement with them null & void?

karenb said...

The lawyer doesn't strike me as being a whole lot better. Is much known about him other than the 'son of Sam' case? I thought lawyers tended to be proud of their track records, how well they did in court, how many cases they were successful in & so on. Other lawyers have high profile case but I've heard them mention other cases they've also done really well on, that they've been particularly proud about. Both Hellars strike me as fame seekers.
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Mark Jay Heller was suspended from practicing law for a period of five years for bilking a bunch of his clients. Nuff said.

She's..um..RUINED said...

TLC has lots of power, apparently. They have been able to get most of the media to roll over on Jon, while leaving their darling alone.

To further TLC's cause, this latest attack on Jon is just that...another attack. You really think they want to show a flattering pic of him?

The entire media industry is apparently one big whore-monger. Their pimp is their net profit.

WorkerBee said...

Jon says: "We could make more money. In the end, the more money we make, the better off our kids will be."

Is he friggen serious? Have he not seen the effects of all those 'Hollywood' kids and the priviledged rich and famous kids? They have had everything handed to them (on a gold platter), everything except love and nurturing...and they are messed up, drug addicts with totally screwed up lives. Alexa Ray Joel, Drew Barrymore, Redmond O'Neal, Macauley Caulkin, Nicole Richie, Paris Hilton...just to name a few!

Someone needs to tell these 2 dolts that $$ does not equal happy, better off kids. Love, attention, affection, nurturing, BEING THERE, hugs, kisses, bedtime stories being read by Mom or Dad (Not a not-a-nanny) is what makes happy children.

Get a clue you 2 losers!!!!!!!

God Jon is just as much of an idiot as Kate is. And that picture is SCARY!

Can't See Sheep said...

karenb said...
Mark Jay Heller was suspended from practicing law for a period of five years for bilking a bunch of his clients. Nuff said.
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Oh, now that's awful & just plain dumb for anyone wanting a lawyer to pick him. I started to wonder if Jon was too stupid to breath, but then I remembered that clip with kate telling him he was breathing too loud, so he's at least intelligent enough to do that. Where's his mom, does he listen at all to her? His brothers? I'm wondering if any have spoken up & been ignored or what? To see a loved one make so many dumb decisions can't be pleasant.

Christmas is near, we need that Scrooge thing to happen with Jon, except the spirit of his dad comes back & sets him straight.

A Sad Life For Jon said...
He and Kate both know they have no talent but they won't give up dreams of being famous for nothing.
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Amazing how frightened they are of normal non-camera related work. So frightened of being like everyone else. All the energy they put into trying to drum up more TV time, if they put that energy into a regular job they'd do very well for themselves.

Jon is not surrounding himself with moral people, I think he needs to learn what moral actually means, just like kate needs to learn what 'organic' means.

SucksToBeJon said...

This story just makes me so sad.

Heller's ideas for Jon suck so much. A talk show? Furniture? For real?

Does anyone remember how, back when Jon quit his job, he said that he would be working from home for Beth's husband? I wish he would just do something like that.

LostLittleJon said...

There is just something missing there. He gets pulled into a limo, he works with Schmuley for advice, he talks with a therapist daily....it is like he is totally unable to guide his own life. He also seems to be lacking the ability to know when the world is laughing at him and not with him. Talking to the politician saying he is interested in maybe running for something. Even the journalist could tell the politician was giving him the brush off. Jon is either much dimmer than even I thought or he is the most naive person on the planet.

Really, it is hard for me to wrap my brain around how dimwitted he seems to honestly be.

lifeoriley said...

To use a Yiddish term, OY VEY, Jon!
Shut up already. Really. Please. Your kids love you and need you. They need their parents looking out for their best interests (yes, they even love and need Kate--another story).
And, newsflash---the more money you make IN NO WAY guarantees that your children will be better off. In 2/1/2 years, you and Kate have made more money and gotten more free goods and services (trips) than you probably ever thought possible. Let me ask you this, Jon-- Are you happy now?

PA Woman said...

Yes laws were put in place to protect people from libel and slander, both of which the Gosselins have done to Jon's ex-boss. This poor man, I am sure, has been vilified at churches all over the country for firing poor innocent Jon.

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The laws that govern employment have nothing to do with libel and slander. They are to protect the worker for future employment opportunities. If his boss was libeled, it is wrong to take the law into your own hands and disclose information that is confidential. Both he and the company could be fined. The proper action for his former boss would be to sue Jon in court for libel. Sorry, two wrongs do NOT make a right.

AnneMarie said...

and you don't get shingles from being broke, out of work, or even stressed....good heavens, do they NOT have fact checkers at the rag?

Joanne said...

Why is the media just focusing on Jon? Kate is the one who wanted the trainwreck to continue so she can play angelina jolie.
At least Jon pulled the plug on it.

Judy said...

This article is incredibly sad. Neither of the 8's parents seems to care about their kids as children.

Barbara said...

All I have to say is thank goodness for Tiger. At least there's a new story for the tabs to pursue and these two schmucks will hopefully fall so far off the radar they will need a ladder to get back up.

Momom said...

Jon has made some incredibly poor decisions and seems to have horrible counsel. I think Kate comes off better these days because TLC has PR people working with her. Jon needs to get a good lawyer and PR person ASAP.
I think this is what happens when you take an ordinary person and make them a huge reality star overnight. They don't have the resources or knowledge to handle the fame. And then the next big scandal hits and they are yesterdays news left trying to rebuild something of a life. It is incredibly sad to me.

really said...

Wasn't this Rabbi the one who taped M. Jackson and then published a book.

Jon get help from people who just wnat to be paid for their services-not make money off of you.

rural mom said...

Radar is now saying Hailey still shares the apartment with Jon even though she despises him, thinks he is a pathological liar, ruined her best friend relationship with her mother...lets give them credit for stretching 15 minutes into a weekend.

For the Moment? said...

If Jon had half a lawyer, he would advise him that he was not qualified as a corporate lawyer, and that he should hire at least a consultant for the trial. Didn't he lose the Son of Sam case..he is a criminal lawyer, apparently. TLC has the best corporate lawyers in the country, and I am afraid they are going to make mincemeat out of Jon and his attorney. But he is probably stuck w/ them (him and his brother) as it appears he will sign anything that is stuck under his nose. Kate and TLC trained him very well as far as that goes. And Hailey, she is a bad influence on him as well. She is like a teenager and not playing w/ a full deck. She has no sense of loyalty, whatsoever, and he needs to get rid of her, completely. I think she manipulates him a lot more than anyone might think.

Charles said...

SucksToBeJon said...
This story just makes me so sad.

Heller's ideas for Jon suck so much. A talk show? Furniture? For real?

Does anyone remember how, back when Jon quit his job, he said that he would be working from home for Beth's husband? I wish he would just do something like that.

12/08/2009 7:10 AM
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Well, "working for Bob" was just a cover for "not working anymore."

He quit his job to be at home with the kids while her Royal Hiney jetted here, there, and everywhere, soaking up the love and the moolah.

Marianne said...

Jon has been named "most provocative" of 2009 by Headline News:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/12/08/sbt.most.provocative.celebrity/index.html

Jane in California said...

PA Woman said...
The laws that govern employment have nothing to do with libel and slander. They are to protect the worker for future employment opportunities. If his boss was libeled, it is wrong to take the law into your own hands and disclose information that is confidential. Both he and the company could be fined. The proper action for his former boss would be to sue Jon in court for libel. Sorry, two wrongs do NOT make a right.
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No, they don't, but in the grand scheme of this whole Gosselin fiasco, and the many lies they have told -- I think this particular incident is way down on the radar. Jon and Kate lied repeatedly about why Jon lost his job; the supervisor or owner of the company that fired him finally spoke out about the real reason. Could Jon sue him? Probably. Has Jon shown the slightest interest in doing so? No.

Jane in California said...

By the way -- although Jon clearly loved his father very much and misses him, I'm sorry to say that Papa Gosselin did not do a very good job at raising this individual to manhood. We all know Jon isn't the brightest person, but this level of ineptitude is hard to fathom.

At this point, I think even Levi Johnston seems to have it more together than Jon Gosselin. How sad is that?

Jon - for pete's sake, just go home, raise your kids when they are with you, get some sober non-publicity seeking attorneys to handle the final details of the divorce and the TLC lawsuit, drop the rabbi off your speed dial, tell Hailey it's been a slice of the 20's you miss so much -- and then start the hard work of manhood.

Go in search of a real job, not some pie-in-the-sky fake celebrity dream. You won't get your own talk show, you won't be producing a line of furniture, you won't be a celebrity spokesperson. At most, you'll get a call from some promoter asking if you want to wrestle an alligator in a Kate wig or something. Or from some low budget porno film company, asking if you want to be in one of their films.

In the immortal words of Cher in Moonstruck: *SLAP!* SNAP OUT OF IT!

PA Woman said...

I'm curious what happens with the contract with TLC. Jon is still under contract. But TLC has no plans of using him;, howerver, TLC insists on keeping him from working (granted, he has found the best quality work, but still). At any rate, if the contract was to do 40 episodes, can TLC just control Jon indefinitely since they aren't filming so they won't reach 40? I'm guessing there is some sort of time frame but still. TLC loves controling the puppets. When the decided to turn the show into Kate Plus 8 and Jon didn't want to film they should have let him out of the contract. They just won't do that.

hmm said...

LostLittleJon said...
he works with Schmuley for advice, he talks with a therapist daily....it is like he is totally unable to guide his own life. He also seems to be lacking the ability to know when the world is laughing at him and not with him. Talking to the politician saying he is interested in maybe running for something. Even the journalist could tell the politician was giving him the brush off. Jon is either much dimmer than even I thought or he is the most naive person on the planet.
Really, it is hard for me to wrap my brain around how dimwitted he seems to honestly be.
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He really seems to be a lost little boy.

He is listening to people who are out to make money off his celebrity.

He says he lost his 20s to kate and the kids.
He is losing his 30s to a rabbi, lawyer, agent.

Jon do you really think the next big thing is just around the corner. Is that what your people are telling you?

Your time is up, go home, go to school, get a job.

LisaNH said...

Well, I think considering the errors in this article (i.e. being laid off due to high insurance for a large family...), I wouldn't take to heart too much this reporter wrote. This person clearly does not have their facts straight so anything in the article could be inaccurate.

Not that I'm defending Jon, just that this article seemed to have a lot of spin in it. Maybe to make it sell better?

So Sad said...

Note to Jon: Other people are on the covers of those magazines because they either have talent or they're really beautiful. You're on the cover of tabloids because you and your ex-wife are a trainwreck. Its not the same thing. Nobody is looking to put you on the cover of Vanity Fair, dude. Your 15 minutes are almost over. Just look at K-Fed.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Charles said, "He quit his job to be at home with the kids while her Royal Hiney jetted here, there, and everywhere, soaking up the love and the moolah."

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Interesting that Katan refused to go 'hither, thither, and yon' to accompany her sons on their outings, yet she is oh-so-happy to leave the kids behind to jet set around, seeking the ever-more-elusive spotlight.

Blech to her and her ilk.

PA Woman said...

Jane in California said...

No, they don't, but in the grand scheme of this whole Gosselin fiasco, and the many lies they have told -- I think this particular incident is way down on the radar. Jon and Kate lied repeatedly about why Jon lost his job; the supervisor or owner of the company that fired him finally spoke out about the real reason. Could Jon sue him? Probably. Has Jon shown the slightest interest in doing so? No

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I don't want to harp on this but I do have one last point. It has nothing to do with Jon suing his former boss. His former boss broke the law by disclosing the information, so he would receive a fine from the state. Jon would not be involved at all. It would be just like if someone were speeding and hit a parked car. The state (or local authority) issues the speeding ticket for which you are fined. The owner of the car hit then has the option of coming after the driver in civil court to get repair costs covered. These are two separate legal actions. The owner of the car has nothing to do with the speeding ticket. In the same manner, Jon would have nothing to do with his boss being fined for making the info public. That is solely up to the state.

Now I won't bring it up again.

Frannie said...

Maybe the state doesn't really care or has a lot more to worry about than an employer correcting yet another Gosselin lie? There is likely a statue of limitations on such a small infraction. I agree on one thing, it's time to let it go.

Angel1 said...

My God, that is a horrible, scary pic of Jon. Wow.

goinghome said...

What has become apparent to me is that Jon is unable to function on his own.

He was with Kate for a reason. That reason was he NEEDED someone to tell him what to do and when to do it. He needed a mother....and boy did he get one with Kate.

I say, Jon, go back to Kate. You BOTH need each other.(and your kids need both of you even more!)

BeachMom said...

So Sad said...
Note to Jon: Other people are on the covers of those magazines because they either have talent or they're really beautiful. You're on the cover of tabloids because you and your ex-wife are a trainwreck.....
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Jon stated in the article that it's like NASCAR; people go to see the wrecks. I think he understands that people notice him because his life is a mess.

IMO Jon is a simple man and says what comes to mind without thinking about all the things people could infer from the text of it. Like many have already stated, with Jon, what you see is what you get...he's not complex.

Is Jon using poor judgment? IMO - most definitely yes. Is Jon still trying to scam off his kids? IMO - it sure seems that way. Is it coming from a bad place in him? IMO – no, I just don't think he puts that much thought into it.

Off topic (kind of) but why do we splatter these entertainers on the covers of magazines anyway? They are no more beautiful or fascinating that any of us.

KaSEy said...

From the article it seems like haily is going down the same makeover road...(i.e, her new apprance on et a few months back)...I won't be long before her nose job and her and Jon have their own reality show.

Makes me wonder said...

Before I retired I worked as a Supervisor for a large Hospital. Many, many times when I called for a reference I was told that a former employee (who had applied for a job in our hospital) was fired as well as the infraction for which they were fired. The only confidential information was EEO cases. I can also say that when anyone was fired at our hospital, before the end of the day everyone knew it. Some sort of grapevine. As a supervisor, I do not ever recall anyone ever telling me that I could not tell a prospective employer that the employee had been fired from our hospital. Now as far as giving interviews, I'm sure that's a different matter. I think Jon's boss was just fed up and didn't care.

beware the cameraman said...

Jon does not have an ugly face. I'll bet he looked pretty handsome the day this picture was taken. But that funhouse mirror effect done to the picture was an act of (passive) aggression against Jon, much like the hilariously filmed Kate: Her Story was against Kate. (Still chuckling over them knock-kneed elephantine legs.)

Yikes said...

KaSEy, I think Jon and Haily are tring to get a reality show. Why would Hailey be tweeting some not so nice things about Jon while she is living with him? He just stated that that was what worked on TLC with Kate and him fighting. Ratings, ratings, ratings! Lord only knows what these two are up to.

CC said...

AnneMarie said...
and you don't get shingles from being broke, out of work, or even stressed....good heavens, do they NOT have fact checkers at the rag?

Well, as I painfully sit here with shingles, I looked over at the paperwork from my doc after I read your post. My doc gave me a pamphlet and there it is....S.T.R.E.S.S. My father died unexpectedly, my company went out of business and I am now unemployed after 19 years and I have shingles...just a touch of stress. Yes, it is in my pamphlet that stress causes shingles. Jon Gosselin is prime for shingles once again!

GoPoshGo said...

Canadian Mom said...
However did Jon overlook the opportunity to create his own fragrance??

He could call it Desperation.

I'm sure smelling it...

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LMAO!!!! Now THAT is funny. Thanks for the laugh, Canadian.

torgoman said...

The mention of the Vanity Fair article and the recent death of a friend makes me believe the article took place off and on between early October and the beginning of November, when the Gosselin media circus was in full swing and TLC still had hopes of resuming filming.

With media attention waning and the divorce proceedings having moved along, I doubt Jon is exactly in the same place emotionaly as he was back then.

The difference between this article and Kate's VF article is that Jon seems totally baffled by his fame and admits he has no talents other than being Jon Gosselin. On the other hand, Kate acts as though she deserves to be called a star and has bought into her own publicity as the struggling single mother of eight.

Here's a guy that's been supposedly living it up in NYC and he hasn't learned what Nobu is. Yet Ms. Kate does. Hmmmm. Jon sounded more excited about dirt biking with his friends in Pennsylvannia.

I still believe Jon will adjust to--and probably welcome--his eventual obscurity. (Though he'll sometimes miss the easy cash.) Kate, however, will have to be dragged kicking and screaming from her place in the spotlight.

And does using the term "brand" automatically make Jon a monster that considers his children to be merchandise? I don't think so. If he had rattled off percentages and started talking as if he were standing in front of a sales chart, but he didn't. To me, it sounded more like comments made in past interviews about wanting to end the show earlier and only doing holiday specials. If he and Kate could've found a way to work together, their little reality show might not have mutated into this ginormous tabloid monster.

And the photo looks like Jon is looking back at someone who is looking at him through a door peep hole.

GoPoshGo said...

CC said...
Well, as I painfully sit here with shingles, I looked over at the paperwork from my doc after I read your post. My doc gave me a pamphlet and there it is....S.T.R.E.S.S. My father died unexpectedly, my company went out of business and I am now unemployed after 19 years and I have shingles...just a touch of stress. Yes, it is in my pamphlet that stress causes shingles. Jon Gosselin is prime for shingles once again!

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While I'm sorry for your recent sadnesses, CC, and I am sending the warmest wishes your way for happier days, the truth is that stress alone cannot CAUSE shingles. Shingles is a virus. It can only be "activated" if you've already had chicken pox. While stress is one of the factors that can trigger Shingles, it is not the cause of it. I'd suggest that Jon go get vaccinated for Chicken Pox if he doesn't want his stress level to trigger a bout with Shingles.

In the meantime, I wish you and your family the best in terms of health and happiness.

Can't See Sheep said...

beware the cameraman said...

Jon does not have an ugly face. I'll bet he looked pretty handsome the day this picture was taken. But that funhouse mirror effect done to the picture was an act of (passive) aggression against Jon [snipped]
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The photo of Jon looks like it was taken using a fish eye lens. There are also computer programs that have this effect on them as well. You can take a normal picture & the program will bend/ alter it to make it look like the picture has been snapped using a particular camera lens.

Fish eye's rarely make for attractive pics of people & you never focus on the nose or forehead or blemish, unless you want that part really emphasized, especially if the subject already has a large nose or forehead or blemish. LOL! It's terrible when you do this because you can't look at any other part of the photo, you're always drawn right back to a particular part like a magnet & that's usually why a fish eye is used taking a photo of a person to over-emphasize, it is not a kind lens to people.

Callie said...

Regarding Jon and shingles. Stress does not cause sgingles. The virus herpes zoster( not the other herpes)causes shingles.Usually a person who has had chicken pox is at higher risk for shingles.When a person has a high level of herpes zoster lying dormant in their bloodstream extreme stress or being rundown can cause an outbreak.
Spoken by someone who has had shingles 3 times.
CC hope you feel better soon as I know shingles is extremely uncomfortable.

CalebD said...

Shingles, getting fired, more lies from Jon. Trying to make himself look better.

Kate's lies are to manipulate her fans, blatant lies. It shows her respect for her fans, that they would be stupid enough to believe a word out of the mouth.

Good thing she found someone as gullible as Jon to marry.

Melissa said...

I say, Jon, go back to Kate. You BOTH need each other.(and your kids need both of you even more!)
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Jon, Kate, or Jon and Kate?

See, I can't decide what would be for the best. I guess it depends on which angle you look at - best for the kids, best for J+K, best for the general public who has to endure their vomit inducing facade.

Part of me thinks that these two oatmeal-for-brains deserve each other, but on the other hand, if they're together, they'd still be on TV, or do some 'Jon and Kate Couples Counseling' or God only knows what.

I don't know - which would make them go away quicker? What do you all think? What's the best thing for Jon and Kate?

too legit to quit said...

"KaSEy, I think Jon and Haily are tring to get a reality show. Why would Hailey be tweeting some not so nice things about Jon while she is living with him? He just stated that that was what worked on TLC with Kate and him fighting. Ratings, ratings, ratings! Lord only knows what these two are up to."
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Even though I think Jon is a better parent than Kate, the way he is building a showbiz career really makes me sad. He is like willing to trash his own reputation and dignity for spotlight. Obviously Hailey is stirring things up so they can both stay in spotlight. They dramatize things in order to be in the news. Tiger is getting all the attention. Now Jon must be a lying cheating bastard worse than Tiger to take the spotlight back from Woods.

Where is the dignity and integrity? How are you going to teach your children anything and set an example if your reputation is in the gutter? How do you explain to your children when they grow up? How do your kids deal with it when schoolmates tell them their dad is a cheating lying whore? How do you expect your kids to respect your authority when the whole world calls you a bunch of names? Your kids are going to question your credibility when you want to discipline them.

Is it really worth it? Can't he figure out something else to build a brand or TV career? He already got his name out, can't he at least do some homework to really think of something legit instead of choosing the easy way like creating scandals. He is already free from a 9 to 5 lifestyle, can't he use his free time to plan a legit career?

Wake up! Jon said...

I think Levi Johnson is actually smarter than Jon, unfortunately.

1. Levi knows how to defend himself and his reputation.

Levi makes it very clear that if Sara Palin wants to spread rumors to attack him in the media, he will reveal more dark secrets about Sara. If Sara leaves him alone, he will leave her alone.

2. Levi focuses on getting paid projects and doesn't mingle with blood sucking rats.

You don't see Levi hang out with D-list losers trying to ride on Levi's coattail. But Jon keeps mingling with these desperate people who would sell Jon in a heart beat. Come on! Jon.

3. Levi doesn't sell himself as the bad guy but Jon allows others like Haily to smear his name for create controversy and generating public interest.

Levi wants his name clean. Jon doesn't

NancyB said...

Ohio Buckeye, you really gave me some great big laughs tonight!

This is a little off topic but I looked up Kate on Wikipedia tonight and it states that she goes to Marysville, OH when Jon has custody of the kids. I had never heard that before. Does anyone here know if that is accurate?

It also lists her cookbook "making memories" part of title is being published by Zondervan in 2010 and has an ISB number listed. I was VERY disappointed to see that.

Today, Kate was in Raleigh, NC with TLC and of course, Steve, to do some pre-shoot for her new cooking organic type show.

I used to post as 8OFFTV but now that they are finally free of the cameras, I'll post with my name.

So many really insightful and really quality people on this blog. Since I discovered this blog 2 yrs ago, it has been a great pleasure to get to know many of you. I never put it together until the posts tonight, about the papps catching Jon with the teacher. Absolutely, he was set up.

MBach said...

I'll try a post, even with all the troubles our poor mods must be having. Hang in there, I am sure it is very frustrating for you all.

There is a new story out from Kate/hate about the kids missing the cameras. I did NOT read it. Sorry, but I just couldn't stomach any more lies from the succubus.

Here's an idea on why both Kate/hate and Jon have developed spikey hair styles: They needed something to hide the horns growing on their skulls. :o)

Seriously, Kate's hair when she first came back from the tummy tuck was kind of cute on her. Where those stripes and spikes came from is really the biggest joke on her.
I see Jon's hair-don't as an attempt to both mask hair loss, and to appear younger. Sorry, Jon. It isn't working.

AnneMarie said...

CC said...
AnneMarie said...
and you don't get shingles from being broke, out of work, or even stressed....good heavens, do they NOT have fact checkers at the rag?

Well, as I painfully sit here with shingles, I looked over at the paperwork from my doc after I read your post. My doc gave me a pamphlet and there it is....S.T.R.E.S.S. My father died unexpectedly, my company went out of business and I am now unemployed after 19 years and I have shingles...just a touch of stress. Yes, it is in my pamphlet that stress causes shingles. Jon Gosselin is prime for shingles once again!
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Seriously, I feel your pain. I just finished three months of torture myself. It's still a reactivation of the virus due to reexposure. The stress weakens you to the exposure. It does not CAUSE shingles.

Are you stuck the permanant nerve damage? I am and it sucks the big ole egg!

Hambone said...

Note to Kate:

If your kids are "sobbing" in the van after you pick them up from the bus stop after a long day at school...because they "miss" the camera crew....something tells me that they aren't happy with just mommy and need strangers around to help them feel safer ( safer from mommy perhaps? ).

Could it be that mommmy is a tad meaner when this missed camera crew isn't around to magically change her personality?

Could it be they feel more protected from these people than they do their own parents?

I think if my kids "sobbed" after I picked them up from school because they miss a camera crew, that camera crew ain't coming back...ever!!! Something is seriously screwed up if this "sobbing" is happening, and cameras don't belong around kids who are reacting and responding this way.

They need therapy, not a camera crew.

GoPoshGo said...

MBach said...
Here's an idea on why both Kate/hate and Jon have developed spikey hair styles: They needed something to hide the horns growing on their skulls. :o)

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And the long swoop of hair across Kate's forehead covers the three 6's quite nicely as well.

Nova said...

I really doubt the kids 'sobbed' when told they weren't going to be subjected to the camera crews and the filming anymore. Kate lies like she breathes.

God bless and protect the Gosselins, because their parents sure won't.

Nova

yippee gosselin free! said...

Jon said, "Jews are as cool as '*'" (profanity for excement)

Does he think that is a compliment? I certainly do not.

I am glad he is in counseling. I am glad the Rabbi is working with him. He needs it. This is a positive step. He has made several steps in the right direction. Reconciling with family is so great.

But, he needs to REALLY give up his sexual acting out with Hailey and everyone else; and he needs to give up his addictions: the pot and booze and cigs. He then needs to move back to the town where his children live, and get a job. He should buy a business, and work it. Maybe a local internet provider; sports store owner; mini race car track; small amusement park; ice arena....some place family friendly that his kids could one day work in. Form a support group for abused men...go to church. Also, a great gesture, would be if he took some of his money and paid back the state of Pennsylvania for the nurse that helped with HIS children for a year!

Grow up Jon. Or before you know it, your kids will be grown, acting like bums and you will notice that your whole life has vanished and you have wasted it all.

Go home and put your kids before your social life. YOU brought them into the world and YOU own them ALL your attention. They do not deserve your relationship dramas.

yippee gosselin free said...

My mother in law is the same as Kate. So, we understand why the Gosselin kids sobbed upon hearing the crew wasn't going to be around anymore.

My sister once asked my daughter, when she was about 3, if she wanted to go to "nana's house"; my daughter answered, "NO! Nana is meaner than a stranger!"

Seems Kate happens to be as well.

As mean as she was to Jon, he was an adult that could walk away. The kids can't. And believe me, kids are much more irritating than a husband.

Those kids need to be protected from their mother's tantrums. Shame on Jon for leaving them unprotected, just sho he could party. Their PTSD is much worse than his.

torgoman said...

I think Levi Johnson is actually smarter than Jon, unfortunately.

1. Levi knows how to defend himself and his reputation.


Really? The guy who twitters asking where to find some good weed and if fat children don’t get kidnapped?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mLvzARScak

The redneck jock who couldn’t figure out the consequences of not putting on a condom? Defending himself, maybe. But protecting himself? Definitely not.

The guy who quit his job as an apprentice electrician that could’ve supported his baby and decided to be a…media personality famous for being an ex-almost-son-in-law of another media personality?

2. Levi focuses on getting paid projects and doesn't mingle with blood sucking rats. You don't see Levi hang out with D-list losers trying to ride on Levi's coattail. But Jon keeps mingling with these desperate people who would sell Jon in a heart beat. Come on! Jon.

Going to Teen Choice Awards with Kathy Griffin?
Going on The Insider with Kathy Griffin?
Getting interviewed on Larry King with Kathy Griffin?

There’s that pistachio commercial that makes light of not using a condom. All that tells me is Levi’s claim to fame is that he knocked up a politician’s daughter.

And Playgirl magazine pays, but is it something you want to boast about? Or be proud of?

Of course, Levi never had a good reputation to begin with, so is was there anything to ruin?

3. Levi doesn't sell himself as the bad guy but Jon allows others like Haily to smear his name for create controversy and generating public interest.

Levi wants his name clean. Jon doesn't.


Levi does a good enough job smearing his own name and reputation. He’s ridiculous. He’s only famous for not using a condom and stirring up gossip about his almost-mother-in-law. I don’t like Sarah Palin, and what Levi’s antics have done is rally Palin’s sheeple to support with her more.

I’ve never seen Levi with his boy. At least you’ve seen Jon play with his kids and was there changing diapers.

dwaign said...

"If your kids are "sobbing" in the van after you pick them up from the bus stop after a long day at school...because they "miss" the camera crew....something tells me that they aren't happy with just mommy and need strangers around to help them feel safer ( safer from mommy perhaps? )."


Hold the phone
Its been over a month or more since the cameras went bye bye.
These kids should have already established a new routine with long school days/no cameras and new school work.

I do think they miss at least the attention the crew members provided

redalert said...

"If your kids are "sobbing" in the van after you pick them up from the bus stop after a long day at school...because they "miss" the camera crew....something tells me that they aren't happy with just mommy and need strangers around to help them feel safer ( safer from mommy perhaps? )."
+++++++++++++++
Quickly!! Give back the show.. the kids are sobbing.

Hmm said...

Daddy kicked out your camera friends.You will never see them again. No more trips ever for you. THings will be hard because there are so many of us.
OR
We wanted to top the show so that you can concentrate on school. one day we can have them over to visit and you can show them what you leanred in your school.

How was this handled?

whereowhere said...

If your kids are "sobbing" in the van after you pick them up from the bus stop after a long day at school...because they "miss" the camera crew....

I think Katie misses the camera crew, and the tlc cleaning her house service and the moolah and the attention etc

Peas and Carrots said...

Children are not a brand, when are they going to wake up about this. If they are a brand then why did he stop the show and insist his children are being damaged by this. This is inconsistent with what he is saying.

BarbMae said...

No, stress alone does not cause shingles but it does effect the recovery. I also had a bad case of shingles when my life was stressed out but my doctor did explain to me that I had come in contact w/someone who had the chickenpox virus and my immunity was compromised because of stress. It is very painful and when you are under alot of stress you neglect the symptoms as I did for 10 days. My doctor was livid and once the pain meds kicked in I couldn't believe how I had endured the pain. It was located right where my waistband lay. Ouch!! My sympathy to anyone who is struggling w/shingles.

Alice Blue Gown said...

Re: Levi Johnston

He is a snot-nosed, good looking brat who is being expoloited. I do now feel sorry for him, though, because his mother is in prison for selling drugs. I am guessing she hasn't taught him a lot about ethics or self-esteem.

Kat said...

5-year-olds and 9-year-olds "sobbing" over a camera crew that disappeared several months ago suggests to me that they need therapy RIGHT NOW. Not that I believe Kate for a second (I suspect she's the one sobbing), but if by some fantastic-ish posibility she is telling the truth, wow, are those kids damaged.

Notice they never sob for the grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins they no longer have? THAT, to me, would be the tragedy in their lives, not the loss of the camera crew, except that the crew were their Kate-approved family substitutes.

I moved every couple of years as a child, so I constantly "lost" friends and was forced to start anew. However, I don't remember ever "sobbing" about it, because my parents made sure I saw each transition as an opportunity to try something different.

Kate's trying to use this incident to gain public sympathy reveals her lack of true motherly concern over these poor children. Where's that "Can-do" Kate who now sees everything as a new adventure? Oh, yeah, she disappears with the cameras, and out comes "Poor me" Kate.

N.E. Psychologist said...

Jane in California said

By the way -- although Jon clearly loved his father very much and misses him, I'm sorry to say that Papa Gosselin did not do a very good job at raising this individual to manhood. We all know Jon isn't the brightest person, but this level of ineptitude is hard to fathom.
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It sounds like Jon’s dad was a good guy, and we know that he supported his son’s family financially. Maybe this is what happens when life is handed to you on a “golden platter.”

pinkdiamond611 said...

re Jon's Dad. I lost all respect for Jon when he announced on national T.V. that his father was an alcoholic. Using that as an excuse for his (jon's) current behavior. First off, he trashed his father's reputation as the beloved, well respected pediatric dentist, and secondly, the man is dead and can't defend himself.

Ohio Buckeye said...

8 kids 'sobbing' because they miss the camera crew????

a) "Sobbing" = Katan's usual drama. Other kids simply cry, but Katan's kids SOB. Give me a break.

b) Katan LIES. I doubt there is ANY truth to this. I'm guessing nothing remotely close to this ever happened.

I have no trouble believing those kids cry, but it's unlikely due to missing the CAMERA CREW for god's sake.

Let's face it, Kate's not the most emotionally healthy person on the planet.

Yo, Kate: it's called TRANSFERENCE, when a person transfers her own feelings onto others and is incapable of differentiating between her feelings and those of others.

The only one SOBBING over the loss of the camera crew is KATAN.

And BaBa Wawa stating Kate is 'smart' and 'a star' just proves how washed up and desperate to stay in the spotlight this old has been is.

Memo to Ms. Walters: no one values your opinion anymore. Please retire. (and you have our permission to take that 'smart' 'star', Kate G, along with you. Both of you can stay in The Land Where Dignity Dies. We'd all be grateful.)

readerlady said...

@ Nancy B.

I live about 15 miles from Marysville, Ohio (which is just outside of Columbus). I've NEVER seen anything about a Khate sighting or any mention of her being in the area, and I subscribe for the Columbus paper and get the Columbus television stations. If she's coming to Marysville when Jon has custody, she's sure keeping it quiet.

dustilies said...

Jon seems to understand only one-third of whatever therapy and spiritual direction he is getting.

Two examples:

His takeaway from his hours with the celeb Rabbi: "Jews are cool." what an idiotic and offensive statement. Sounds like a fourteen year-old boy who just learned that Jews have, like a mondo dinner? like once a year with the whole family? where they eat found that has like, um, symbolic meaning? and the youngest kid gets ask these super-gnarly questions? and then the kids get to, like, gamble with chocolate coins and a whatchamacallit,dreadlock?--so street!

And he goes to therapy to work on his issues (which we all have). If his dad was an alcoholic, especially a secret alcoholic,of course that means Jon needs to confront that past and figure out how it is affecting him now. IN THERAPY! Not on camera.

You know, Jon is no good at playing the celeb/pr game, even as a minor-leaguer. He seems to find working with his hands really satisfying and seems to know his way around a toolbox (remember that boatload of Ikea furniture Kate selected and he got the privilege of putting together?) If he took some serious certification classes, he could become a mechanic for Harley-Davidson bikes, or Honda, Subaru, VW cars. A friend of mine dropped out from Wall Street a decade ago, and makes a very nice living as a Honda mechanic. He's also much more happy and fun to be around!

readerlady said...

I hit the publish button too soon. Sorry for the additional post.

Ya know, I can believe the kids "sobbing" over the cameras being gone IF Khate presented it to them as "mean Daddy won't allow us to film any more, so Mommy has to go to work and you'll never see me again. And we won't be able to take any trips or go anywhere and you may have to leave your school and nice new house and move to a crowded place where you all have to sleep in the same bedroom". I can totally see her doing/saying something like that. It's already on record, by her own admission, that the way they presented the kids the "choice" to continue the show was that if they stopped the show, they'd never see Mommy and Daddy again because they'd have to get regular jobs. She's just that twisted, IMO.

GoPoshGo said...

Jane in California said...
By the way -- although Jon clearly loved his father very much and misses him, I'm sorry to say that Papa Gosselin did not do a very good job at raising this individual to manhood.

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Do we know for sure that Jon's dad raised the three sons? I'm pretty certain Jon's parents were divorced, so perhaps we shouldn't be too quick to blame the Senior Gosselin for Jon's poor turn-out as an adult male.

ouch said...

So her kids are sobbing in the van? yeah right!! Mommy dearest and her spoon are also in that van. Nice try KHate, it's the camera crew... me thinks not.

nanb said...

NancyB said...
Ohio Buckeye, you really gave me some great big laughs tonight!

This is a little off topic but I looked up Kate on Wikipedia tonight and it states that she goes to Marysville, OH when Jon has custody of the kids. I had never heard that before. Does anyone here know if that is accurate?
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Just a guess

I don't know if its true or not BUT, I did a search from where Jamie Cole-Ayers lives in MI to Marysville, OH and from Wernersville, PA to Marysville, OH and it's about halfway by highway. Maybe their hanging out there when it's Daddy custody?

jibberjabbers said...

Kate already admitted that when it's Jon custody day, Kate stays at Steves place....

That's her "secret" hide out...

Source

silimom said...

Some thoughts:

"Jews are cool" - the way I read this, it was a comment he made upon arriving at his lawyers mansion. That's even more shallow a thing to say, IMO. Jon came off as much of a dweeb as Kate did in VF. He needs to grow up and walk the talk he's spewing.

He and Hailey are still living together despite the fact she recently called him a monster - huh? One question Hailey... Why? I guess your family isn't talking to you - maybe if you left Jon and then went to them and apologized for behaving like a 13 year old, they'd let you move back home. Oh wait, I hear tell he's living in your apartment - again, I ask why? If he's a monster kick him out. If you want it to end and him out of your life - again I say kick him out or, if it's his apartmenrlt, leave. I'm sure there's a friend that would let you crash.

E-town house selling - well, there goes that back up plan. I hope their condos are big enough for all the kids. Or I guess Kate and the kids could move into a trailer over at her parents mobile home park they own.

Katw in Ohio - No offense, but please remember anyone can say whatever they like on Wikipedia. Fact checking- not the sites's strongpoint. That being said, her sister Christen Largent does live north of Marysville in Monclova and she has made supportive statements about Kate in the past. It could be Kate stays there or nearby for family support.

I just pray for this family. That's really all anyone can do.

my9cats said...

I don't believe Kate would tolerate being locked in a van for at least an hour with 8 (count 'em 8!) sobbing children.
She's full of it.

Ali said...

"Kate already admitted that when it's Jon custody day, Kate stays at Steves place....

That's her "secret" hide out..."


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Well that's a stretch, lol! One visit does not mean she always goes there, that's pure speculation.

Judy said...

I don't understand why Kate would be so broken up about being away from the kids due to the shared custody -- wasn't she away a lot during her book tour and her speaking engagements? She's used to it by now.

DLCF said...

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2009/12/barbara_walters_kate_gosselin.html

Go Z, go go go!

Most Moms have Feelings said...

Posted by Judy: "I don't understand why Kate would be so broken up about being away from the kids due to the shared custody -- wasn't she away a lot during her book tour and her speaking engagements?"

Well put, and I agree, especially since she was looking right at the camera in an early episode when she said, "The best time of the day is when they are all in bed !".

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

You can tell they didn't do their homework here; for instance they IMPLIED that they lived in that mansion during the whole show.

Plus, Kate ended the marriage; it was implied that Jon did IMO.

mary said...

Judy said...
I don't understand why Kate would be so broken up about being away from the kids due to the shared custody -- wasn't she away a lot during her book tour and her speaking engagements? She's used to it by now."


What a bunch of hooey.I dont understand either. Especially since the rule is as per some episode jon cant call her unless its an emergency.

Not a fan of either said...

All 8 children sobbed because the show was canceled yet only Cara cried when they announced their divorce. Good job, Kate. Your children are totally screwed up. They have the same values that you have.

Another thought. Whatever money they clear on the E-town house will go to lawyers. Jon should have kept that house, but I guess it's possible TLC would have gotten it anyway.

E said...

Holy crap, where'd they get that photo? Jon is not a bad looking guy, but that photo makes me want to bleach my eyeballs.

Watch out, Kate said...

The children didn't SOB over Jon moved out of the mansion but they cried that the camera crew left??? Come on!

It's either Kate is lying or the kids are screwed up. What kids value camera crew more than their own father??? It better not be true or someday the kids are going to throw Kate under the bus for money. Let's see. They can write tell all books and sell stories to tabloids about how horrible Kate is.

MBach said...

That picture HAS to be the result of someone twisting up the real picture. It reminds me of those goofy greeting cards of bug eyed animals.

When they interview these silly attention seeking people like the forever youthful Jon and super-succubus Kate, don't they get to approve the text or picture used?

I was interviewed once for a newspaper story, and I thought my comments were carefully made. However, when the story made print, an off hand thing I said about a bathroom was part of the story. How embarassing! Of course, I am just a regular person without a press agent, so no one represented my interests.

Jon has his son-of-lawyer for a press agent. Maybe he just isn't a very good press agent.

And something else came to mind today. I remember one episode (I think it was the trip to Disney) when Kate lost her voice, maybe from screaming too much about the ice cream. As they started to leave, Kate says "I've lost my voice. Too bad, as it is my best feature."
Oh boy, talk show here we come.

yippee gosselin free said...

"re Jon's Dad. I lost all respect for Jon when he announced on national T.V. that his father was an alcoholic. Using that as an excuse for his (jon's) current behavior. First off, he trashed his father's reputation as the beloved, well respected pediatric dentist, and secondly, the man is dead and can't defend himself."

Repectfully disagree. It is always good for adult children of alcoholics to speak the truth. It is very important to stop living a fantasy, and speak out for the way things are. Everyone denies the truth all your life...it was a big step for Jon to say this. To speak the truth. I am proud of him for doing so.

Jon slipped easily into living out a lie, and pretending to be someone he wasn't; because that is the role his father modeled for him. Dr. Gosselin may have been a great person and a great dentist. Believe me, many great people are addicts.

Betty Ford was a wonderful, graceful, respected first Lady too! But, she is an alcoholic too.

It isn't an insult to admit that a person has a weakness.

Secrets hurt people. The truth sets them free.

CityGirl said...

I am seriously afraid of what is going on in that house without a camera crew. Kate nevered wanted to be bothered with those kids. I know she may still have nannies and whatever, but the kids knew that when kate is home so is the camera crew. And Kate wouldn't be as quick to jerk one up in front of them. But now, they probably know that mommy will be in a very bad mood when the front door opens. I believe they cried when they were told no more cameras. They know they won't see "nice mommy" anymore. Poor kids.

Katan the Stupid said...

So the crew packed up over a month ago, there were commercials ad nauseum publicizing the end of the show for the month leading up the the finale. So why did the kids just now find out the crew isn't coming back?

Is this another of Kate's lies to try to garner sympathy? (Oh, poor kids are sobbing! Well, golly, if that's the case then let's start filming again!)

Or did she REALLY just inform them that the show's over? They already had "sobbing times eight" when they heard the show was ending a month or two ago. So if the kids are now learning for the first time that the crew isn't coming back, what were they told before? Was Kate holding out hope that she and TLC could turn this around?

Either way, what Katan the Stupid fails to understand is that those kids crying is not a reason to resume the show. And when did she ever let anyone but herself make decisions? Those kids can't even move their damn feet in a parking lot without getting their asses handed to them

just askin' said...

So this wonderful crew they were sooooo close to, loved and shared life with like a part of the family, aren't allowed to visit the kids if not holding a camera and a boom mic?

They can breathe now said...

Has Kate ever considered the fact that maybe the crew doesn't miss her? I mean, why would they? And if she feels like the show is gone too soon, she should whip out her iPhone video camera and film her kids hitting each other herself.

Closerfan said...

The Gosselin 8 sobbing because they miss the filming crew is a little suspicious to me. Kate said once on one of the final episodes that Hannah allegedly said that she liked school but she didn't like all the kids telling her that they watch the show. Yeah..they really miss those cameras.

mom4 said...

that pic is frightening

For the Moment? said...

Katan the Stupid said...

Good catch...she did already say that months ago on the TV show "sobbing X8." Forgot about that. Why doesn't someone call her out on all of her lies?

She must think real authors use the word sobbing. I wonder if that is a word the McGaugheys (Kate's personal handbook) used in their book. It just sounds bizarre coming from Kate. But then bizarre is the operative word in all things Kate.

anotherthing... said...

This whole thing is a freakshow. I know that it is very difficult to be interviewed (as mentioned previously... the writer can string what you say together pretty much however he/she desires) but c'mon Jon!!! He is paying a manager for that???!!! What a freaking joke.

As far as the obvious lack of concern for fact checking on the authors part... that is just vile.

And when you put it *ALL* together -Kate and her lies, poor parenting skills the drama weve seen and on and on... together with Jon and TLC and the media- what we get is 8 suffering kids.

No one who is a key player in this gives a flying hoot about them or their well being. Clearly. TLC: um, nope busy suing dad. Mom: nope busy spending the money they make her and badmouthing dad. Dad: nope, busy in NYC checking out cool sh** and waiting for the next 'deal'.

So, who, exactly is the winner? It seems that every party involved is a bit miserable. Good job, Jon and Kate... Brilliant life choices.

Ohio Buckeye said...

I'd have been excrutiatingly embarrassed if my dad, in his 30's, was still trying to portray himself as the hip and horny high school dude, making ignorant statements like "Jews are cool as $#^%" and using trendy phrases like 'wicked early'. Of course, his hosting siliconed, bikini'd babes in their 20's at a Vegas pool party probably would not have caused me to hold my head high either.

I just feel so sorry for the 8 kids. All kids go through phases when they think their parents are the two dumbest people on the planet, but the Gosselin kids will actually be right about that thought.

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

Ohio nailed it! lol

torgoman said...

This hasn't been Jon's best year, but I'd guess the kids know the difference between Jon's media image and their real father.

It seems Jon has kept a low profile these last few weeks. He was seen at a few clubs in D.C. one weekend, but I only learned about that from a tiny blurb linked here and not a tabloid cover. Nothing scandalous happened in Hawaii with all the women in bikinis there. I remember a tabloid article reporting about Jon and a woman at a bar, but in the picture it looked like they were sitting having a conversation. They weren't even touching. Over Thanksgiving weekend there was some concern because Hailey twittered that Jon was in Utah skiing rather than spending time with his kids. But that turned out to be false.

He's put on more weight, but that's not a crime (not unless he starts wearing speedos). Aside from the magazine article describing events from October and that edited scene in the finale (also in the past) nothing really bad or embarassing has happened.

she is evil said...

I agree torgoman, what's the big deal with "jon's behavior". Even the pix with the bikini girls weren't bad. He looked a little out of his element and looked like he was being flirty but not gross with the women there.

The one thing Kate and TLC could have nailed him on is the pictures with Deanna, which surfaced before the divorce announcement. Those pictures forever changed his image as the perfect husband. Why hasn't anyone, including whiny Kate, said anything about it? This supports those incredible claims about the contract Kate drew up allowing Jon to date. Also makes me wonder if he was set up by Kate and TLC from the beginning.

I am hoping that by suing Jon, Kate and TLC will force Jon's hand and he'll expose them for the scum that they are. And in case they haven't figured it out, the show is dead. No one cares anymore. And no one wants to see eight bratty unhappy kids being filmed because their mom and tlc made them.

silimom said...

Not a Jon or Kate fan let alone a TLC fan but...

It doesn't matter if the appearances he made were roll in the mud dirty or squeaky clean. He had a contract with TLC and in that contract it stated he could not do media appearances without TLC's permission. He violated that contract.

Whether that was fair or not is what they will discuss in April. The judge's ruling is simply a "let's keep everything status quo for right now" and perfectly logical imo.

It appears to me that Jon has a history of not being held accountable for his actions. Now, before I get jumped on, yes, I believe that his marriage to Kate was destructive and dysfunctional. I can understand where Jon is in his life and how he got there. However, that doesn't absolve you from the consequences of your actions. (Ditto for Kate).

I was going to do a timeline of his life but we all know the story and we each see in it what we want to see. Ihope however it plays out, it's a cautionary tale for those seeking an easy way out of their problems. Nothing is ever easy, there is always a price to pay.

alana said...

she is evil,

I agree 100% that Yawn-Boy was set up re: the first pics with Deanna Hummel.
I think Hate was sick of her marriage and sick of sharing the spotlight on their show.
I've believed, from those first pics, that this was Take's way of creating the drama and crisis she needed in order to end their marriage, garner sympathy for her big fat self, and finally have her very own show. I'm still not convinced she is disappointed that Yawn put an end to the children filming; after all, we all know she thinks she'll be successful on her own.

Jane in California said...

silimom said...

It doesn't matter if the appearances he made were roll in the mud dirty or squeaky clean. He had a contract with TLC and in that contract it stated he could not do media appearances without TLC's permission. He violated that contract.
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That's what it sounds like to me.

I don't know what the contract language says specifically, but would it stop Jon from going out and getting a regular job, one that is out of the public eye? Seems unlikely, right? It seems more about controlling his public image than his private one -- so he can't do a show hosting a swim party for a promotional fee, etc.

To most people, that would be common sense but Jon doesn't have much of that.

I think he should just conserve whatever money he's got stashed from earlier seasons. Cut his expenses where possible. Face the reality that he and Kate probably can't afford that mansion they bought at the peak of the market and now it's gone down in value. Sell the luxury car that you're probably making payments on (or worse, leasing!) and get a car that you can buy in full.

And for pete's sake, get some real job skills!

Even if he backs down and allows those poor kids to be filmed again -- the show has jumped the shark. It will never return to it's pre-divorce-ugliness ratings. Not only because of the huge negative publicity surrounding both J & K, but because the tups are getting older.

As others have pointed out, their parents have not raised them well. Those kids run rampant in public, scream, hit each other, have melt downs, etc. Not pretty. Cara is withdrawn and Mady speaks out (and seems bratty). Kate -- there are no words for the atrocity that is Kate.

People will not tune in, except for the ever shrinking pile of Sheeple. Advertisers will get grumpy and choose to place their ads elsewhere. TLC will unceremoniously dump Kate and the kids.

And sadly, when those kids are older and possibly have substance abuse problems or get in trouble with the law, Kate will open her eyes wide and say "I did the best I could." And TLC will tsk, tsk and say they are saddened to see this turn of events. And Baba Walters will be 102 and still trying to pick fascinating people and will studiously ignore the fact she participated in this charade. And Dr. Phil will speak out of turn about a private counseling session he had with one of the tups, or maybe it will be Rabbi Schmuley who will share a secret recording, or perhaps Dr. Drew will invite them to come on his D-List Celeb Rehab show. And so the exploitation will go on, and on, and on. . .

anotherthing... said...

she is evil said...

"I am hoping that by suing Jon, Kate and TLC will force Jon's hand and he'll expose them for the scum that they are. And in case they haven't figured it out, the show is dead. No one cares anymore. And no one wants to see eight bratty unhappy kids being filmed because their mom and tlc made them."

Jane in CA said...
"...As others have pointed out, their parents have not raised them well. Those kids run rampant in public, scream, hit each other, have melt downs, etc. Not pretty. Cara is withdrawn and Mady speaks out (and seems bratty). Kate -- there are no words for the atrocity that is Kate.

People will not tune in, except for the ever shrinking pile of Sheeple. Advertisers will get grumpy and choose to place their ads elsewhere. TLC will unceremoniously dump Kate and the kids."

I couldnt agree more or have said it better than you two.

The show is over. No one cares. Everyone is over it and over the drama and sick to death of hearing from theam and about them.

It doesnt help that it has become quite clear that the children have behavior issues that are clearly from not being raised well.

Which only further proves that both Jon and Kate are not exactly ...good parents.

When you add that to the fact that they make themselves and eachother look like idiots at every turn ...it makes it pretty hard to even want to watch the train derail. Its just gross/pathetic/trashy/offensive to all of us hardworking good people that they try to liken themselves to.

Theyre done. And if they try to bring the show back, they will be dissapointed. Kates new show? Will be a dissapointment. To put it mildly.

Pilgrim Soul said...

Hmm - That is my understanding, too.

Merrilee said...

2. Levi focuses on getting paid projects and doesn't mingle with blood sucking rats. You don't see Levi hang out with D-list losers trying to ride on Levi's coattail. But Jon keeps mingling with these desperate people who would sell Jon in a heart beat. Come on! Jon.
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We don't see squat that agents don't want us to see. Levi is simply a teenage brat that has never had parental guidance or attention. Look at where his Mom has landed!

Shoshanna said...

Memo to Katie:

If it's true that your kids were sobbing (again) because you just told them (again) that the show is over,
why not buy some hamburger buns, take some of
that free organic chopped meat you've stuffed in your
freezer and have the crew over for a cook-out?

Or don't you really care? I'm sure they would leave
their shoes at the door, if you gave them one of your looks. Then toss a few grapes on some paper plates for dessert, and the poor, friendless, family-less group of 8 will be happy as pie.

Hmmm. I'll bet you're thinking that the "mother-of-pearl ring with 8 little diamonds" would make
them happier than any human interaction would,
right?

What a poor excuse of a mother you are!

Pa Mom Knows said...

"So this wonderful crew they were sooooo close to, loved and shared life with like a part of the family, aren't allowed to visit the kids if not holding a camera and a boom mic?"

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It was a business relationship and that's all. I would believe that when they filmed, they were bound by the confidentiality agreement. If they were to visit, would that exclude them from that agreement? Perhaps the contact is written in such a way that "visits" are prohibited because it might over-ride the CA clause. Are they still bound by the CA agreement if they are not technically working there and employed in that capacity by TLC?

PLL said...

PA woman said:

I've heard this as a rumor, but did Jon's former boss really say this?? Because it is also ILLEGAL to disclose why anyone was terminated from a job. So his former bosses statement is ILLEGAL.
I've been involved in lawsuits after layoffs/terminations and making any such statement would be a big no-no..
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This is a misinterpretation of the law. The law relates to protecting future employment. Employers, when contacted by another employer, are not allowed to lie or exaggerate about the employee.
Most employers now will only give dates of employment. Better safe than sorry.
There is no law preventing an employer from defending his/her actions.

Susan said...

I'd say that it's pretty simple, really. Neither Jon nor Kate ever received the memo that the world doesn't owe them a living.

Chris/cacklinrosie101 said...

Interesting but not so true....Jon did not lose his job due to the health insurance issue, as both he and Kate have been prone to keep saying. It was due to some outside contracts he took. But again, the Gosselin myth continues. Good riddance to both but the children are still adorable.

Kat said...

MAYBE the crew feels really sorry for the kids, but are eternally grateful they are free of the Incredible Shrieking Woman, and never want to step foot in that house again.

anotherthing... said...

Susan said...
I'd say that it's pretty simple, really. Neither Jon nor Kate ever received the memo that the world doesn't owe them a living.

12/15/2009 12:02 PM
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Oh Susan!!!! Brilliant. Very simple, as you said, but clearly, it is a concept that they do not understand.

anotherthing... said...

Pa Mom Knows said...
"So this wonderful crew they were sooooo close to, loved and shared life with like a part of the family, aren't allowed to visit the kids if not holding a camera and a boom mic?"

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It was a business relationship and that's all. I would believe that when they filmed, they were bound by the confidentiality agreement. If they were to visit, would that exclude them from that agreement? Perhaps the contact is written in such a way that "visits" are prohibited because it might over-ride the CA clause. Are they still bound by the CA agreement if they are not technically working there and employed in that capacity by TLC?
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I think you hit the nail on the head: it was a business relationship.

AND 'visits' are probably 'frowned upon' due to confidentiality agreements and such.

Also: Why would 2 previous TLC crew members ask to be moved off the j&k show if it was a delight for them to work there?????? Im just sayin'....

Gosselin Kids all the way! said...

I have a theory why "twiddleDUMB and twiddleDIMWIT" do not put their children as first priority. Before I became a parent myself, a friend of mine had said that when you become a parent, you either "fall in love" with your child or you don't. Not saying you don't love them at all but when you 'fall in love' with them, their well being is your first priority. You give them everything you have even though you go without. You make sure that they are happy emotionally and physically. When they hurt, you hurt and you want to take away their pain. Your heart melts when you watch them sleep or when they accomplish their first milestone or goal themselves. As a mom, I understand what he was talking about and I can't imagine ever putting my boys needs behind my own or having other people see them at their worst. I think that is the problem with J&K, is that they never 'fell in love' with their kids or with each other for that matter. If they did have any ounce of love for the kids, I don't think they would be in this situation right now. Sorry for the long post!

Susan said...

Playing "victim of circumstance" - even "victim of the business of entertainment" or "victims of the press" - are all way too easy. I'm far, FAR from perfect but I think that even I would have figured out by now that the fates that were befalling me were largely of my own creation.

J&K chose to get married. J&K chose to bring multiple multiples into the world without giving any real thought as to how they'd manage, either psychologically or financially. They chose to sign exclusivity agreements with TLC and contracts that bound them to live their lives in a bell jar. They saw dollar signs and pretty much everything else faded to black.

Coulda, Shoulda and Woulda weren't there. J&K were. Naive and inexperienced? Yes. Unable to read? No.

Lacking in anything even vaguely resembling common sense? HELLO!

anotherthing... said...

Susan said...

"...Naive and inexperienced? Yes. Unable to read? No."

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Perhaps Kate more info would have sunk in if TLC had worded the contact more along the lines of:

'If you signish this contracty, can you do other shows without asking us? No. But, if you do signy this paperish, you can workish with your kids and we will let you have helpers(!) -not nannies though...'

...eh. Nevermind, she would have seen the word 'nanny' and signed it no matter what.

my9cats said...

That is a hideous picture of Jon.
Maybe he can make some money by suing the photographer.

Sick of It said...

All I wanted to say is that the picture posted of Jon is SOOOOO creepy!! UGH!