Kids on the Bus

What do you think about the kids having to get up early and take the long bus ride to school? Is it worth it?

174 comments:

Feeling Snarky said...

Oh - anything to have those kids away from Kate for a little longer each weekday. The kids probably would concur.

pinkdiamond611 said...

Hmmm. I never understood why the kids had to go to that fancy private school. I always thought that they received the tuition for free, that is why Khate sent the kids there. And of course, Khate thinks she is better than the average public school family. I agree that Khate sends them there to get rid of them ALL day. I hope they get a nice hot breakfast before they leave. IMO a long ride is necessary to receive special education services or if you wish your child to be educated in a parochial school setting. There is no other reason I think that it is "worth it". Besides, how can you have a play date if you live so far from your friends? This is my opinion as a teacher and a mom.

The Big Wooden Spoon said...

I think the ride is waaaay too long for small children. We put my daughter in a school that was 35 minutes from home when she was in 8th grade, and it ate up so much free time that, no matter how fabulous the school (it was!), it wasn't worth it. she got home, ate dinner, did homework, and slept. No free time, no hanging around with friends after school, and socializing with schoolmates was difficult because of distance.

I suspect that the G8 would be eaten alive in public school, but surely there's a good private or parochial school a bit closer to home?

On the other hand, I agree with Feeling Snarky that they're probably better off on the bus than at home with Nastymom!

Zayna said...

I think this is a good question.

If it was simply a matter of a long bus ride to and from school then I would have to say that by itself it's not that big a deal.

But when you add to that the amount of stress these kids are and have been under, how little they see their parents as it is and how messed up their lives are right now I would argue that no, it's not worth it at all.

These kids need as much parental and adult support as they can possibly get right now and 2 hours a day (am I right that they travel about an hour each way?) 5 days a week sitting on a bus seems like too much.

Then again, I homeschool and even when my daughter was in school, it was a ten minute walk away.

What happens when one of them gets hurt or throws up at school? Does it take an hour for a parent to show up or are they relegated to a nurse's cot for the rest of the day?

Either way, with all that's going on in their lives it just seems like one more thing that's unnecessarily unfair.

Can't stand her said...

I wonder if those kids have a feeling of dread on Kate's days as they pull back into that parking lot after school. Will it be overdressed, fake-nice Mommy with her slobbering kisses for the camera? Will she look like a whore today? Will she yell at us for moving our feet and remind us that if she didn't show up we'd be standing in the parking lot all by ourselves? (BTW, who says that to their kids?). And it must just get uglier when the paps aren't around to act as a buffer between the kids and the queen of mean.

Miss said...

Speaking like Kate:

Will the kids get overly tired waking up so early to catch a bus? NO

Are they used to such early hours? YES

Are they used to being drug to and fro? YES

CODE FOR.....

THE SOONER I GET THEM OUTTA MY HAIR THE BETTER!

lifeoriley said...

I don't know if its "worth it" or not. It's a very good (and EXPENSIVE) private school, if that means anything. The ride is bout 45 minutes --by car, without traffic. However, that area does have rush hour traffic and I don't know if the bus makes any additional stops along the way.
The school has a cerain cache, maybe that's why Kate wants the kids to go there.

Pony said...

As a parent, I'm not in favor of any kid having to spend that much time on a school bus ( or in a car for that matter ) going to and from school. I think it cuts into sleep, playtime, family time, and time for things like dance and music lessons and sports. That said, it's pretty common these days. In my city, there is a debate at this moment about school assignments for elementary school students - so that no child would have a bus ride longer than an hour. Some kids currently ride close to an hour and a half. And this is the public schools. I don't think it's going to kill the kids, and I conur with Feeling Snarky. The more time away from Kate for the G8, the better.

Brummygirl said...

It depends on just how much sleep the children have. I think it is Kate who has a hard time getting up, but anything to have that extra time to herself. It is said she exercises very early in the morning, so who is getting the kids ready for school, as if I need ask?
Now they would need to go to bed really early to obtain the sleep they need, so not much time with those kids after they are home from school. That gives her even more *Kate* time.
Bless those little hearts, what an awful life they have had with Mommy Dearest and the worst is yet to come.

TIME said...

I have a question. What time do the kids wake up and catch the bus?

In the past Kate slept till 8:00 p.m (Jon got up with the kids and brought Kate coffee) and now she claims that she get up every morning @ 5:30 a.m. to exercise....Which is it?

JFS in IL said...

If she can afford it, and there is no tv cameras around paying to film them, Kate will have those kids in boarding school soon..."Because they deserve the bestest education served to them on a golden platter".

Just a hunch.

Exhausted said...

I think it's too long, and yet again, the parents aren't putting their kids' needs first. Adults complain about 45-minute commutes, and adults have much more tolerance than kids. (I have an hour and a half commute, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.) Actually, my wife and I were looking at the same school for our kids if we moved, and that would have been how long the bus (or car ride) would be, and we nixxed it because we thought it was too long for the children.

On the other hand, at least the kids get some individual attention at the good school--something their parents never give them (somehow, I don't think that special day with alone time has held them over two years).

I think it would soften the blow a little if their parents drove them, but that would be like asking the impossible. And why shouldn't their parents drive them? I thought the show made it possible for Kate to just stay home all the time? If I were in their position, I would be ridiculously protective of these kids, especially with that public drop-off point. But if I were in this position, hmm, I wouldn't be in this position because I wouldn't have sold my children's privacy.

Pattypanda said...

It's not "the bus ride" its the unnecessary hour long each way ride so Kate's possessions can be in "private" school. Which, by the way, how much longer will she be able to afford, as she and TLC drag her husband into the toilet. (They aren't divorced yet.) I've said it before, I think a big part of their bad behavior is lack of sleep and they are half starved. By the time they get home, it's been a long day. I wouldn't be surprised if they fall asleep on the bus ride home sometimes. When they do get home it's around 4pm at the bus stop, Kate has to find room and move things around in her vehicle to ft them in. They are probably starving and acting out in the car. By time they get home, Kate the single mom, is exhausted, she just spent a hole 10 minues in the car with her "top priorities". I'm sure the twins have homework. Doesn't leave much down time before a "dinner" bath and bed. We know Kate doesn't spend time reading bedtime stories so there is little "family time". I can't image the cold unloving atmosphere in a house filled with people. That is not a happy home.

PutASockInIt said...

Zayna said...What happens when one of them gets hurt or throws up at school?

Khate tells the nurse to put them on a bathroom floor with the lights off.

Tami said...

No! I don't have a problem with choosing not to use public schools, unless you are so far from a private one you "need" to use that the kids suffer! They have to suffer by wasting all that time commuting for the parent's greedy desire. It's not fair! If they ever want to do sports or anything they are not going to have much time to have a life.

Tami said...

Lots of kids have to do that; when my husband was little he had to do that, too. Doesn't seem like a big deal.

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Lots of kids have to do lots of things. That doesn't make it right. Your husband having done it doesn't mean it is either. That's like saying it's ok to________(fill in the blank with whatever parenting choice) because someone else did that.

KatesAfake said...

Lots of kids take the bus. I don't think it's a big deal.
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Do all kids riding a bus have an hour long commute? No.

Not Watching TLC said...

Much better question: is it fair to the other kids riding the bus to have their faces broadcasted on a national television program when they were not paid or asked permission?

As a parent, I would be ROYALLY ticked off to find out that someone was videotaping my daughter on her schoolbus for a TELEVISION program. I would go hire a lawyer and the school would be HEARING FROM ME.

Corrin said...

I know where I live any teenager who lives on the military base has to take a hour and a half bus ride to the school even though there is a school closer but for some reason thats were they send them. I don't think it is fair for a child of any age to have to give up the little bit of time they get away from school inorder to ride a bus. They are missing out of valuable time with there parents and friends. No school is worth that.

she is evil said...

What the hell else does Kate have to do that's more important than her kids? I get a lot of quality talking time in with my kids when I drive them hither, thither, and yon. While the bus ride in and of itself isn't bad, I'd sure feel uncomfortable sending those tups on such a long bus ride unless I couldn't drive them myself that day. They're not even in kindergarten yet, Kate! You don't have a job or even housework to tend to! I guess those kids know exactly where they stand on your list of priorities, whether or not you've got it listed on post-it notes all over your house-prison.

Philly Hockey Mom said...

I think the kids have plenty of years left to ride the bus. I think once they are off the airwaves, tabloids and out of news it may be safer to send them on the bus. There are some real nuts out there and I fear for those sweet kids. I believe Mady and Cara have been riding the bus for years, but just think the tups need a year or two more being driven to school. Maybe once the show ends and the money starts to dwindle, all the Gosselins will be in public school.

I use to the ride the bus when I was a kida nd it was only for 15-20 minutes and after a few years it was grind.

Miss said...

Zana said:

What happens if one of them gets hurt or throws up at school?


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PutASockInIt said:

Khate tells the nurse to put them on the bathroom floor and turn the lights off.
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Sock......Ahhh so sad but probably so true.

konhasyoufooled said...

JFS in IL said...

If she can afford it, and there is no tv cameras around paying to film them, Kate will have those kids in boarding school soon..."Because they deserve the bestest education served to them on a golden platter".

Just a hunch.
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I so agree!! I have been saying that from the start. If she doesn't get them back on tv to make her money off to boarding school they go. They are of no use to her anymore. What a sad sad story. Wonder if she will come out saying she also had an affair with Tiger so she can get tabloid coverage again.

konhasyoufooled said...

Not Watching TLC said...

Much better question: is it fair to the other kids riding the bus to have their faces broadcasted on a national television program when they were not paid or asked permission?

As a parent, I would be ROYALLY ticked off to find out that someone was videotaping my daughter on her schoolbus for a TELEVISION program. I would go hire a lawyer and the school would be HEARING FROM ME.
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Doesn't it make you wonder why none of the other parents haven't spoken out? I for 1 would have put my child in a different school. Maybe the other parents get a *kickback* for allowing it. Remind me again why people actually like Kate?

Canadian Mom said...

Until grade 7, I was able to watch my son walk to and enter the school yard.

(I walked with him until he insisted on doing it himself)

He now takes a bus and must walk about a block to the stop. No biggie. He's 14 and tall (and thinks he knows everything).

Kat said...

Other questions - how long a drive do they have *to* the bus stop? How long is their *actual* commute?

For two years in elementary school, I attended an "out of district" school for a special program and had an hour-long bus ride each way, with a 15-minute walk to/from my house. I loved the program, and would have been bored to tears at the "regular" school, but I had very few friends in my neighborhood and little after-school play time, so yes, it got a little lonely at times. And yes, it was hard to get up an hour earlier than my siblings, even though my mom always got up with me and made sure I had a hot breakfast. That was also back before "play dates" and my mom would no sooner have dragged me around the county to play with my school friends than she would have served me meals on a golden platter. :>

I guess I would see the advantages as being a modicum of additional privacy (private schools can be more stringent about students harassing or discussing other students), more individual attention (smaller classes), and *maybe* a stronger primary education (not familiar with the school). And at least the Gosselins have each other - I was all on my own at school, and I was the only kid at my bus stop (and the only kid on the bus for the last 15 minutes or so). On the other hand, being the first kid picked up, I always got to sit over the heater vent in the winter, since I got first choice of seats!

I don't know if I would have subjected my kids to an hour-long commute for a better educational experience. Fortunately, I never had to make that choice.

Molly said...

My two cents...
I live in Philadelphia and do work near the Gosselin gang and know the school VERY well. It is a WONDERFUL school...those children are getting a great education. Yes, they wake up early but all of us who took the bus and went to private schools had to wake up earlier...and MANY schools BEGIN at 7:30.
This should be the LAST thing that is troubling frankly to GWOP folks.
I love that I have not heard and or seen them on tv or magazines in ages...it was a fad and will be long forgotten by this time next year.

jasmine said...

It's not only the long bus ride, extra curricular activities, homework, etc., but also Kate expecting her children to continue filming a weekly television series. Maybe Kate should take a ride on the school bus, sit in school all day, participate in extra curricular activities, do homework every night, and film several days a week. Forget about 40 weeks or episodes per season. She wouldn't make it through the first week.

kate is a cocky bitch said...

Can someone explain the story behind the bus ride? This is the first I am hearing about this.

Melissa said...

The bus ain't the problem if you ask me. It's them shelling out god only knows how much to pay for it.

Personally I've always thought Kate chose the private school to keep them out of her hair for an additional two hours a day.

Natalie said...

Can someone tell me why the bus picks the kids up in a strip mall parking lot? I saw a pic of this somewhere and wondered if that was the normal stop or a special consideration for the Gosselin kids?

Nan said...

I don't actually think that the Gosselin kids would be welcome - or perhaps even safe - at a public school. Not so much now, but can you imagine the paparazzi hanging around outside a public school when every move they made was filmed, earlier this year? It wouldn't be fair or safe to the other kids either.
A private school is more able to afford privacy, they are used to handling kids from public or high-profile families.
I have a cousin who is a public figure, and when his wife went to register their kids at a public school she was "strongly advised" to consider a private education, which they wound up doing.
I actually hope that the Gosselins can afford to keep them where they are, at least for the next couple of years as they (hopefully) fade out of the public eye.

Aunt Chris said...

One problem with a trip that long is, if your child wants to do some after school activity (scouts, sports, etc) is there a late bus for them, or do you have to go get them yourself? I'm sure we know that Kate would not do that, so Mady and Cara are probably forbidden to get involved in anything.

Techymum said...

Personally, I don't like long bus rides for children IF it is optional. Certainly there are many country children who ride the bus for a long time each and every day!

My oldest daughter rode the bus for approx 45 minutes each way during Grades 1-3. While it wasn't the only reason we moved closer to the school, living closer to the school we chose for her to attend certainly weighed heavily.

The kicker was when one day the bus driver pulled up, walked back to where DD was fast asleep. Woke her up, and helped her down the steps. It was then that I fully realized what this was doing. And how participating in any after school activities wasn't in the books.

No Wooden Spoons At School said...

konhasyoufooled said...
JFS in IL said...

If she can afford it, and there is no tv cameras around paying to film them, Kate will have those kids in boarding school soon Just a hunch.
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I so agree!! What a sad sad story.
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Boarding school -- if it's a good one -- might be the best thing that ever happened to those kids. Speaking as a survivor of a crazy family, boarding school was WONDERFUL.

Consistent rules, fair treatment, and professional child-handlers (teachers and RA's) would give those kids their first taste of "normal".

It's sad for sure, but I hope that's what happens.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"Personally I've always thought Kate chose the private school to keep them out of her hair for an additional two hours a day."

Why would she do that when she could easily enroll them in a school nearby that has an after school program until 5 p.m.?

Tina said...

Long bus rides for small children is ridiculous. No private school is worth it.

Jenny Renee said...

I had to ride the bus for 45 minutes each way all through jr. and sr. high, due to some stupid zoning laws. It was miserable. I was always tired from the early morning, sick from smelling the fumes, and drained when I got home. I was in no mood to do my homework, so I put in the bare minimum. There was no time to hang out with friends and family, and no time for sports or activities. I had no life, and none of the special school experiences. I would never put my children through it, no matter how great the school. If the school were that important, I'd move closer before allowing my kids to endure what I did!

Anna said...

TLC has never filmed the Gosselin kids on the bus or in school. The reporters have captured some of the other kids in the parking lot getting one or off the bus and parents may not like that but there isn't much that can be done about that.

Also, I think that has pretty much ended.

What shocks me is how much filming is done in the school the Roloff kids go to. I think TLC must be paying the school.

MickeyMcKean said...

I asked this question on another thread and I don't know if it ever got answered ...

Sorry if this is a little bit OT, but with all the time these kids are riding the bus and that it limits free time after school each day ...

Are there any locals that know if the G kids are still enrolled in gymnastic classes? Or was all that excitement, especially from Leah, just for the TV show?

It looked like a pretty big gym - does anybody have kids going there and can confirm if the G kids still go? Thanks in advance.

pinkdiamond611 said...

But here is the thing. The twins started that school before they all became "stars". I thought they were so poor? I take exception to the posters who think that "private" schools are so much better than "public" schools. One would have to compare the data from the private school and the public school in order to reach that conclusion. Not all public/private schools are alike. I am waiting for a poster from the local area to check in and tell us about the local schools. The Etown neighborhood looked very nice, I doubt that someone would move in there, and pay that price if the schools were questionable. jmo

debbiejo said...

Since their mother wants them to have life on a "gold" platter...( the usual silver platter not being good enough).....maybe this is actually good for the kids development as human beings.

They are like the rest of the kids in the world, not being chauffered, having to sit with all the "regular" kids, having to sit still, follow directions,etc. I'm thinking it's ok for the kids.

jibberjabbers said...

and MANY schools BEGIN at 7:30.
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That's not the problem. The problem is, they have to wake up at 5:30(?) to get ready for school. Then take a 1hr trip 2 times a day, 5 days a week.

Most adults would hate taking long bus rides every day 2 times a day.

Megan said...

@ PAMomKnows

That's an easy one - because Kate wants the perceived higher social status associated with sending her money makers to this exclusive private school


@ jibberjabbers

The tups only go to school 3 days a week.

Betty said...

lifeoriley said...
I don't know if its "worth it" or not. It's a very good (and EXPENSIVE) private school, if that means anything.
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Why did these two bozos MOVE to a new house FAR away from a good school.

Hope the kids like the long ride, they have 14 more years of this.

Betty said...

That's not the problem. The problem is, they have to wake up at 5:30(?) to get ready for school. Then take a 1hr trip 2 times a day, 5 days a week.
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As Jon stated in the back to school episode, " my kids get up wicked early"

Why move to a house so far away?

Betty said...

Pa Mom Knows said...
Why would she do that when she could easily enroll them in a school nearby that has an after school program until 5 p.m.?
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i suspect kate likes the prestige of private school- even when she could not afford it for the twins.

Mary said...

"The tups only go to school 3 days a week."


For now.

mary said...

Personally I've always thought Kate chose the private school to keep them out of her hair for an additional two hours a day."


I agree and it means going to bed early.

jibberjabbers said...

@ jibberjabbers

The tups only go to school 3 days a week.

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And? The 9yo goes to school 5 days a week.

And why are the tups who are already behind, going to school 3x a week? The show is over, no need to take them out of class to film.

The show isn't "detrimental". Right... They're behind most 5yo's in terms of social skills. Especially Aaden.

TLC: Aaden, can you tell us about the time you pitch the ball..

Aaden: I flewed it... (tlc then cuts the clip). lol

weird not special said...

I wonder if the kids on the bus gawk at those poor Gosselin kids. They ARE different; freaky, if you will, simply because they are part of a famous, notorious, tragic family. What do you say to a bunch if 5 year olds who are being hounded by the paparazzi, especially if they have been instructed by their idiot mother to say, "Id rather not talk about it."? Kate may think her kids are special, but they are merely different from other kids, weird, anomalous, and she has that blasted show and herself to blame.

Emma's Mom said...

I grew up not far from there...it wasn't uncommon - if you lived on the outskirts of the school district - to get stuck with a 45-60 minute bus ride. It never bothered me..although I was fortunate and loved to read all the way (1st-8th grade) and it was just one of those things that you did if you lived further out...but it also meant I got to have a horse stabled right on the grounds too.

I don't think it's a big deal. I think of all the things done to them - that is the least of the worries.

As for the 5:30 wake-up...I'm guessing that might be exaggerated (what?! From Katie?? Nev-ah!!!). I had to catch my bus by 7:00 - and I was up by 6:15 - but then I didn't have to have the latest nanny dress me in the sponsor of the day-outfit and "this hairstyle brought to you by Shmampers!" look either...

Anonymous said...

People who say it is ok should ask themselves if they would enjoy driving an hour one way to get to school early every morning. And get home an hour later, missing out on family time, time to make dinner without rushing, etc. It is not an enjoyable life. And for those saying the school is so wonderful, how so? Lots of school are wonderful, both public and private. Are there no closer private schools? How is the education they receive here so superior? Again, LOTS of schools are wonderful! It does not take an hour drive time to get to most of them however!

Alice Blue Gown said...

There are problems with school buses ... they are too hot in the summer and too cold in the winter.

There are no restrooms or any type of arrangement for a child who really has "to go" or gets sick on the bus.

Most kids are ready for something to eat when school is over. They have a rough ride with no seat belts.

I rode the bus all the time. It wasn't bad, but it was just a few miles and we never got on that early in the morning.

My grandson had a two hour bus ride each way when he was in grade school. He got his homework done on the bus and his mom packed him an extra snack in his lunch box. He endured well.

Sometimes she would pick him up just so he had a little extra family time. It is do-able, but sort of a shame that little kids have to spend so much time just josteling to and fro.

A lot is expected of kids these days. It is a different, busy world. The days of walking to a neighborhood school are often a thing of the past. And I think it is a shame, but what can one do?

Betty said...

The Betty who has started commenting on this post is not the Betty who has been here for months. Perhaps you could pick a new name or add an initial?

Harriet said...

There are advantages the tups would get from attending the neighborhood public elementary school: free speech therapy to help them catch up with speech, resource teacher time to catch up with skills, and so on.

My daughter saw the Hayes family tonight for about five minutes during one episode of Jon and Kate. She was astounded when I told her the Hayes tups were younger than the Gosselins. She said, "But they're so much larger and seem two to three years more mature. Are you sure, Mom?"

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

I think that's way too much time on a bus for small children and way too far away from home in case of an emergency, illness, etc. There's got to be some decent schools (public or private) closer to home. And, home schooling is always an option anyway.

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

I will add, I'm sure that it IS a good school, but then, if they really wanted the kids to keep attending there, why didn't they look for a new house closer, rather than further away?

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

BTW, why are we talking like Kate is the parent there with them every day of the week? Remember, Jon is there half the time. Has that changed???

Can't See Sheep said...

she is evil said...

What the hell else does Kate have to do that's more important than her kids?
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Steve?

No, but seriously I agree with your post. For any real mom that would be time that they'd spend with their kids if they were able to & the kids just had to go to that particular school. It's not like kate's out working the breakfast shift at McDonalds & that's keeping her from doing it. The woman does nothing & yet can't be bothered.

Think if we blog enough about it she'll suddenly start driving them?


PutASockInIt said...

Zayna said...What happens when one of them gets hurt or throws up at school?

Khate tells the nurse to put them on a bathroom floor with the lights off.
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Kate calls the school & tells the kids to "be a man" over the phone.

Kate is a Witch said...

I think it was good that they didn't force Mady and Cara to change schools during the midst of the divorce. That would have made things even harder on the kids.

The problem was buying the house so far away. Of course, they may end up having to move back to the Etown house soon and that problem would be solved.

I don't know about the gymnastics but we did see that Mady still takes violin lessons because she had the violin with her on her birthday when Jon picked her up. And there have been times that Cara was not with the others when Kate or Jon would pick them up at the bus so presumably she was staying after for sports practice or going to a friends.

Oh and Jon is not there half the time anymore. We don't know how much time he is there but since he did not contest Kate being the primary parent, he is there 49% of the time or less. I paid attention in November and from what I could tell, Kate was with the kids about 3 weeks and Jon 1 week. With the paps losing interest, it is hard to tell any more.

Ava's Mommy said...

Ladies calm down.

These kids are probably happy has a clam to get out of that house. They probably think everytime they leave they can finally breath a little bit better.

True the 1 1/2 commute is not the best option. But Kate and Jon did put this upon themselves. They are the ones who exploited their kids for fame and riches. They are the ones who put their child well being in arms way.

I never understood why they had to ride the bus in the first place? Other than pic moments. Personally in the predicment that jon and kate are under. I would want to drive my kids to school. They could of set up some restraining order against the paps for all the kids safety and school. A reasonable caring parent would of done this. But NOOOOO not the gosselins.

Know remember when they started school. The babysitter/nanny was the one to really get the kids ready for the day and to school. Kate was probably woken up with a coffee and told to follow the kids. On the show she also work out after the kids were at school. ( Hello look at her body? Does it really look like she works out 5 days a week for 2 hrs. NOOOOO.. She would have a more defined body. She is a very thick woman) She probably still has the slash nanny get the kids up, dressed and out the door. Kate only does it when she knows the paps are out for that moment. Since the drama has stopped and the 15 min of fame has gone out the window. We dont hear or see that much about the gosselins. I still think someone in the production company was tipping off the paps. Why else were they in Reading/Lancaster Philly????

Now with this kids
Those poor kids probably do come home tired and hungry. Just like many of you said they probably get their snackie poo. A cracker cheese and organic milk. Than dinner bathtime and bed. A nanny probably helps out with all this also. So Kate can get her important work done in a day. I really cant see Kate doing anything motherly without a camera on. Maybe she props one up in a corner and pretends the staff is still there. TODAY KIDS we are making organic playdoh.. OH WOW...

Just wait till the divorce is finalized and half of the funds are gone. Jon and Kate will be crying poor mouth. With info commercials. Please help us. Support one of my children. They need food, clothing, shelter, nannys, organic goods, nice cars, big house, $$$$$$. Can you find it in your heart to support this child? Please act now and get season 5 1/2. Since jon didn't want to finish the show.

Minka's tail said...

What are the public schools like in her area? Sadly, a public school system is as good as the kids that are enrolled in it, and socioeconomic factors play a big role. If they lived where I taught in (big city in NJ), for example, not only would I support sending the kids to private school, I'd give them a love offering to pay the tuition! No, I'd drive them there myself! The classrooms were chaotic with kids from very troubled homes who could or would not settle down to do any work, and a lot of fights broke out. As they got older, they got into drugs, gangs, etc. Safety was in issue there, and the Gosselins would be beaten up in a minute!

I suspect, though, where the Gosselins live is a very affluent community with few of the problems you'd see in the inner city. So Kate insists on putting them in this school because either

A: she is a loving parent who just fell in love with a wonderful school and has to have her kids in it

B: Because in a private school the "customer" is always right (taught in one of them, too), and she got to push them around and decide what grade the kids were in, when they could go to school, how many days they could be absent to film, etc.

C: They realize they are going to move yet again, and it's more stable to have them in a private school rather then changing school districts constantly.

D: She's extremely pretentious and wants the prestige of this school.

E: She doesn't want them to have Deanna Hummel as their teacher. Doesn't she teach in their public system?

I'm hoping it's A, but realistically? Probably B or D.

Country School Girl said...

In many rural areas where there is only a "county school" this is not uncommon at all. I did it when I was in elementary school and was no worse for wear.

Bus time was good. We played or sang songs or just talked. It's good for kids to NOT be engaged all the time and find ways to occupy themselves, either by doing something or by just having some quiet time to thing and dream.

I'm not saying those kids need to be in such a high falooting school, I'm just saying that 45 minutes each way isn't such a big deal.

konspiracytheory said...

My preschooler is on the bus for an hour in the AM in order to attend a special needs program (30 minutes on the way home at lunch time - much less traffic). It was a really difficult decision, but the school is excellent and she will only be doing this for two years, max (the bus ride to our local K is short). She has a wonderful bus driver and monitor, which helps ease my mind a lot.

As far as the G8 are concerned, I'd say it might be OK *if* all other areas of their lives were stable and relatively stress-free, which obviously is not the case.

LaurieAnne said...

The amazing thing is that not once have I seen pictures that someone (child, teacher, janitor, anybody) took of the Gosselin kids while they were at school and sold to the tabloids. That alone is worth the bus ride and the tuition IMHO. I don't believe there's any way that public school could provide the kids with that kind of no-compromises privacy.

BH said...

I think the kids are lucky to be able to go to this school. That said, if they were my children I would either have bought a house closer to the school and/or driven them myself to and from each and every day. Car rides are a wonderful time to catch up with kids and in the morning to give them all the "I love you" and "Have a great day" and "See you this afternoon" comments we all (aside from Khate) make upon parting from our little treasures.

silimom said...

First off, in my experience with my kids a 45 minute -1 hour ride in our CA district is the rule not the exception. Bussing is only offered if you are in special ed or if you live more than two miles from your school and even then tjere is a cost sharing expense (not for our kids in special ed - that's fully funded). I personally would rather have school start for all kids at 9:00 and get out later. One school my daughter went to did that and it was MUCH better for all the students - they did better in school.

I have less of an issue with them being bussed than the fact that I'd like to see them more involved in afterschool activities. Jon says they do sports at the school and I hope so. The McMansion is isolated enough that it doesn't seem like they can just run next door or around their neighborhood and find other kids to play with. These kids need to socialize more than they do.

Midnight Serenade said...

"Yep, my grampa walked 5 miles to school, uphill both ways in the snow too.... ha"

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The story I got from my grampa was that not only did he walk seven miles to school in the snow, but the teacher did as well, with burlap bags tied around his legs. Even if there were no students there (I think the class enrollment was six), the teacher made certain that he was there!

Megan said...

@ she is evil

thank you! you took the words right out of my mouth!

Niki said...

I guess its okay as long as Khate doesn't hop on the bus with them again.

luvinmygirls said...

the twins were on "scholarship" (i think it was actually Beth though) and Jon said they were first and second in their class.

MickeyMcKean said...

I have been enjoying read this thread even tho I have never been on a school bus. But then I remembered something from 37 years ago :)

I am the daughter of two teachers.

When I was in high school my parents considered moving us from the San Francisco Bay Area to an area in Northern California - so rural that the closest high school was 45 miles away so I would have to spend more than 2 hours a day on a bus!!!

I know they were seriously considering this move UNTIL they heard that the kids who lived at the top of a hill, when they did not do their homework or did not want to take a test, would put a hose out the night before and flood the road so it would ice up and the bus could not get up the hill.

I laughed when I heard this story but I also know that this tidbit forced my parents to nix the idea of relocating.

As teachers they felt that education was important and if that meant a bus ride even for their own kids, so be it. BUT to live on a bus route where the other people's children made the decision as to whether or not the bus made it to town on a daily basis was a whole different matter.

lots as ense said...

Believe me. It's worth every penny. Regardless of her motives, the kids are where they should be and are getting the best of the best in education.
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1) Found great school

2) Can afford it for 8 kids

3) Move far away so kids ahve 2 hr commute everyday.

can't stand her said...

luvinmygirls, I don't doubt what you've posted, but was just curious how Jon can make the statement that the twins are #1 and #2 in their class. Are kids really ranked within their class in the 1st and 2nd grade in that school? The twins seem smart but that sounds strange to me. Like I said, I don't doubt what you're reporting. I just find his statement dubious.

LisaD said...

Kate just doesn't want to let these kids be kids. There's no reason to put this pressure on them. They should be able to go to a normal school like normal kids, leave a normal times and not spend an ungodly amount of time on the bus everyday.

I wonder if Kate's just doing this so she can keep her "this show provided for our kids!" thing going. *eye roll*

Pa Mom Knows said...

"Are kids really ranked within their class in the 1st and 2nd grade in that school?"

No, they are not.

Reading news said...

Isn't Wyncroft still in existence just around the corner from the one that The Donald kid attended? That was usually the stepping stone for local kids who attended the "other" school. The twins wouldn't be too young for that one.

Reading news said...

"Can someone tell me why the bus picks the kids up in a strip mall parking lot? I saw a pic of this somewhere and wondered if that was the normal stop or a special consideration for the Gosselin kids?"


I think it is because many of the children from Berks County attending this school live in various areas. This is a central stop for most of them - perhaps even all of them.

she is evil said...

Niki said...

I guess its okay as long as Khate doesn't hop on the bus with them again
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Heehee. So true. How bizarre that she so needs to be the center of attention that she would humiliate her kids by jumping on the bus to "lay down the law"! (BTW, huh? What law?). I can assure you those kids were cringing when Slutty Over the Top Mom did that.

Reading news said...

Country School Girl said...
In many rural areas where there is only a "county school" this is not uncommon at all. I did it when I was in elementary school and was no worse for wear.

Bus time was good. We played or sang songs or just talked. It's good for kids to NOT be engaged all the time and find ways to occupy themselves, either by doing something or by just having some quiet time to thing and dream.

I'm not saying those kids need to be in such a high falooting school, I'm just saying that 45 minutes each way isn't such a big deal."

There is absolutely no way that this bus could make it from their pick-up to the school in 45 minutes. With the traffic along that road even one hour would be stretching it. And five year olds cannot sit still for that long. Geez, after watching these kids I doubt they could sit still for 15 minutes.

Snap! said...

The best gift we ever gave our children was to buy a house right aroung the corner from their schools. (2 schools- grade pre-k to 6 and grades 7 to 12) Friends come over alot- they can pop home if they forgot something at lunch and the commute is minutes!
I have relatives who send their kids out of district for school and their kids are more isolated from their school friends.
Sometimes you have to send your kids far away to get the education they deserve. But there must be a school closer to home for the Gosselin 8. I have a feeling finances will make the decision for them.

MBach said...

Life in rural America (and I'm sure elsewhere) means a long bus ride. Kids around here go to a consolidated school system. We used to have 5 small school buildings in 3 small communities. Now there is one building for K-12.

Although the school building is only about 12 miles away, some kids ride the bus 1 to 2 hours for BOTH trips to and from. The bus starts picking the first kids up at 6:45, then the ride home works its way backwards to the first kid's house. Some of these kids at the start of the route ride the bus in the afternoon until around 5:15. That is a pretty long day, if you are unfortunate enough to be a first kid in the pick up line. Oh don't ask them to bring the first kid picked up home first, they will not do it.

There are kids of all ages on those buses too. So high school kids on down are riding with K age the entire trip. No bus monitors either.

You can drive your kids to school, of course, and lots of parents do. So much for a green system.

Maybe the Gosselin kids need to go to a private school for the tighter control over media issues? I think it is just another case of Kate trying to be Beth.

There is an old saying:
Are you trying to rise above your raisin'?

marie said...

My boys now 18 & 21 went to a school 30 min away and I drove them and I so miss those times...lots of time to talk and share...and just listen. Time goes by so fast and she will wish she drove those children and had that extra 2 hrs a day with them.

Kate's an idiot said...

Marie, I also enjoy the time spent in the car with my kids. They're teenagers now, at a secretive age, and I learn a lot about what's going on either speaking to them directly or listening to them talking to each other. I have a friend who is a successful attorney; she doesn't have to, but has picked up her (now teenaged) kids every day from school simply to make sure she touches base with them. I always liked that about her and the kids adore and admire her. Kate just doesn't get it. I have my doubts that she will regret her missed opportunity, however. She's THAT self-involved.

readerlady said...

I don't have kids and I never rode a school bus, but I've always felt sorry for kids who have a long ride. The kids in my neighborhood have about an hour each way (to a school that's about 1 1/2 miles from here). They can't walk or ride bikes (rural roads with no shoulders/55MPH speed limits, then cross a major highway with 65 MPH speed limit to get there)so if Mom or Dad can't take them, it's ride the bus. I see the little ones coming home at 4:30 or so, and they look exhausted. I can't imagine deliberately setting kids up for this, as J&K have done. Those poor kids don't get much "me" time as it is, and this just cuts further into it. At the very least, not-a-nanny should be driving them, if not their "loving" parents.

BTW - just because Khate has "primary custody" doesn't mean Jon has less than 50% time with the kids. It just means that she's the parent the kids reside with legally. Jon may be with the kids more than 50% of the time or he may be with them less than 50% of the time. Has nothing to do with "primary custody".

luvinmygirls said...

can't stand her said...,

luvinmygirls, I don't doubt what you've posted, but was just curious how Jon can make the statement that the twins are #1 and #2 in their class. Are kids really ranked within their class in the 1st and 2nd grade in that school? The twins seem smart but that sounds strange to me. Like I said, I don't doubt what you're reporting. I just find his statement dubious.

He said it at the Twins Convention in Boston maybe two summers ago? I was sitting in the audience, darling hubby right next to me. He said they (twins) attended a "prestigious" private school and ranked first and second in their class....Oh, and he said they were on "scholarship". whatever that meant.

Really now said...

But there must be a school closer to home for the Gosselin 8.
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Surely there was a new house closer to the school.

They liked that school, why move far away from it? Is the mc mansion worth the kids have a 2 hr commute for the next 14 years?

bibs said...

My daughter saw the Hayes family tonight for about five minutes during one episode of Jon and Kate. She was astounded when I told her the Hayes tups were younger than the Gosselins. She said, "But they're so much larger and seem two to three years more mature. Are you sure, Mom?"


She is correct. I've only seen 2 or 3 episodes and they are miles ahead in speech and general maturity levels- no need for bibs here.

hmm said...

"How bizarre that she so needs to be the center of attention that she would humiliate her kids by jumping on the bus to "lay down the law"! (BTW, huh? What law?)."


I was confused by this. she needs to go on the bus with them to show them how to behave,sit? But then says becase of the show they are well prepared to handle it. She contradicted herself.

Tami said...

BTW - just because Khate has "primary custody" doesn't mean Jon has less than 50% time with the kids. It just means that she's the parent the kids reside with legally. Jon may be with the kids more than 50% of the time or he may be with them less than 50% of the time. Has nothing to do with "primary custody".
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I don't get why she is not also forced to spend her time in another location when she does not have custody. The house should be considered just as much Jon's as hers, and they both claim it belongs to the kids. So I don't get why hers is considered primary custody.

Can't See Sheep said...

EnjoyYOURSELF said...
And, home schooling is always an option anyway.
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If they had another mother, yes it is an option, but for the Gosselin 8 that'd be cruel & unusual punishment.

OMG, kate teaching them grammar! LOL, they'd grow up thinking that "um" really did come after every couple of words.

Ava's Mommy said...
Jon and Kate will be crying poor mouth. With info commercials. Please help us. Support one of my children. They need food, clothing, shelter, nannys, organic goods, nice cars, big house, $$$$$$. Can you find it in your heart to support this child?
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OF course we should be supporting their children rather than our own.

I really cant see Kate doing anything motherly without a camera on. Maybe she props one up in a corner and pretends the staff is still there.
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OMG LOL! It's both funny & sad! However I seem to be laughing about it far longer than I've been bothered by it. Maybe that's what she does now when the kids aren't home, plays production crew. Ties a hairbrush to a stick & has Steve hold it over her head like it's a big boom mike. (of course I'm wondering if part of him is tempted to whack her with the "microphone" while doing this, "be vewy, vewy quite I'm hunting possum" (insert Elmer Fudd like laugh)) Wonder if Steve is still there? Oh well, if not she can get the nanny to do it. OMG I can totally see kate cracking up like this & I need to stop laughing, you guys are evil. :-)

Tami said...

And? The 9yo goes to school 5 days a week.

And why are the tups who are already behind, going to school 3x a week? The show is over, no need to take them out of class to film.

The show isn't "detrimental". Right... They're behind most 5yo's in terms of social skills. Especially Aaden.

TLC: Aaden, can you tell us about the time you pitch the ball..

Aaden: I flewed it... (tlc then cuts the clip). lol
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These are good points. For those of you saying this school is so wonderful, why are these kids so far behind then? Mady and Cara may or not do well in school. I'm sure they do fine, but why are they so emotionally behind? They are so very immature for their ages. And of course the tups have horrible grammar and such a poor vocabulary. If it is so wonderful, why can't they have classes for these FIVE year olds that are every day and not just a few days a week? Being behind they should be going more and be taught more, not less. Clearly they are not getting any sort of education in the home, no parental interacion, etc. They need all the extra days they can get! If it is too difficult to send them 5 days a week to that private school, send them to some supplemental classes in the public school a couple days a week or something. Here we have a group called Parents as Teachers and you can do the field trips and playgroups with other kids and they also have home visits so the teachers can show different ways to play and interact.

Things that make you go huh. said...

One reason I can see is Kate still has the try to be posh as in lipstick on a pig thing going. Rich people send their kids to private school is her idea so she doesn't really look at the options. The private school tested the tups and put them behind a year. Our local private school does it the same way.

The public school, however, would have to put them in regular kindergarten and provide services to help them overcome the differences and delalys. In the long run, I have to wonder which one would be more beneficial to the children rather than their mother.

I'll ask again said...

Pa Mom Knows said...
"Are kids really ranked within their class in the 1st and 2nd grade in that school?"

No, they are not.

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How do you know this?

can't stand her said...

Re: scholarship for the twins. Most private schools have scholarship programs to attract students who might not attend otherwise. Most of the kids come from families that cannot afford the tuition but value education, as evidenced by the fact that they applied for the scholarship in the first place. I believe the scholarship kids only have to pay the taxes on their waived tuition plus books, uniforms, etc. These scholarships appear to be at the school's discretion (ie: many of the school's employee's kids get them). They appear to be awarded on the basis of financial need and not academic achievement, so I'd be surprised if they were still on scholarship.

Ella's Mum said...

To Tami

I agree with you about the kids speach/emotional delay.

My 3 year talks as well as the tups, and I'm sure one of the reasons for their speach problems is because the 6 of them talk more to each other than anyone else, therfore they should be at school 5 days a week to help them advance.

Having said that, I'm sure if Jon had cancelled the show before they had enrolled in school, they would be going 5 days a week. The 3 days is just so that they that could film.

When you look at the early episodes, Mady and Cara were the same age as the tups are now and there is a huge difference between them.

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

"I don't get why she is not also forced to spend her time in another location when she does not have custody. The house should be considered just as much Jon's as hers, and they both claim it belongs to the kids. So I don't get why hers is considered primary custody."

She is. Or was; has that changed?

I know their initial arrangement anyway was they both "go away" when it is the other parent's custody. If anything has changed in that regard, I don't know about it.

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

"She is correct. I've only seen 2 or 3 episodes and they are miles ahead in speech and general maturity levels- no need for bibs here."

Not really any surprise as the Hayes kids' parents seem so normal and mature and work together as parents. Nothing like J&K.

You ARE product of the environment you're raised in.

Terra said...

MBach said...
"Although the school building is only about 12 miles away, some kids ride the bus 1 to 2 hours for BOTH trips to and from. The bus starts picking the first kids up at 6:45, then the ride home works its way backwards to the first kid's house. Some of these kids at the start of the route ride the bus in the afternoon until around 5:15. That is a pretty long day, if you are unfortunate enough to be a first kid in the pick up line. Oh don't ask them to bring the first kid picked up home first, they will not do it."

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My husband had that experience. First to be picked up, last to be dropped off. It makes no sense why they can't do it in the same order both times. But his family had no other choice. That was the nearest school (public) and they couldn't drive him.

There's a difference between want and need. Kate doesn't realize that. If the only option is to put you kids on a bus for over two hours each day, then that's what you need to do and you do it. If they're on the bus that long because you want them to go to a specific private school, that's not something they need to do and they shouldn't.

Alicia said...

Didn't the twins start out at a different school and switch? I thought they were attending a strictly Christian school - at least for preschool?

hereshecomes said...

From a friend whose daughter goes to the gym where the Gosselins filmed, they have not been seen returning for more lessons.

Most of the public school districts in Lancaster County are good to very good. This private school is nice, but it's not the only place locally to get the type of education that can lead to the Ivy League...as if. I have a feeling Kate chose this school so her children will be with what she perceives as a "superior" class of people and won't have to interact with undesirable "regular" people. Her comments that parents at this school are oblivious to information conveyed in tabloids seem to support that idea.

The idea that the twins are ranked first and second in their class is complete and utter nonsense.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"For those of you saying this school is so wonderful, why are these kids so far behind then?

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The tups only started in the fall. Give them a chance to catch up! The school DOES have five-day classes. The family opted only to send them for three days.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"Are kids really ranked within their class in the 1st and 2nd grade in that school?"

No, they are not.

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How do you know this?

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Years of experience.

suz said...

When my daughter started school full-time, I interviewed for two jobs, both of which I was offered. One was a one-hour commute and paid well, one was a ten-minute commute and paid less well. I was really torn - and as I was thinking about it, I got a call from my daughter's school that she was sick, and I needed to come get her. I decided to take the ten-minute commute job, and never regretted it. I always think it's better to be closer to home just in case something happens.

Angel1 said...

Can someone tell me why the bus picks the kids up in a strip mall parking lot? I saw a pic of this somewhere and wondered if that was the normal stop or a special consideration for the Gosselin kids?
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The public school where I live has a bus stop in the same kind of area. The bus parks on the side of a grocery store parking lot and the kids get off and on the bus there, so I didn't see anything that unusual about that part. Although around here, private schools pick up and drop off your kids at your door instead of at a stop like the G kids do.
I do think that they do spend too much time on the bus, but then again, it's time away from the succubus, so that's a good thing for the kids.

PA Woman said...

Minka's tail said...

I'm hoping it's A, but realistically? Probably B or D.

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Don't forget F, the kids are getting a free right, or extremely discounted tuitions.

I have a rule for myself. I will not live where it takes more than a half hour to get to work. Otherwise, the commute is eating too much into my personal time with family, relaxation, outside activities, etc. I would expect no different for my children.

Reading news said...

hereshecomes said...
From a friend whose daughter goes to the gym where the Gosselins filmed, they have not been seen returning for more lessons.

Most of the public school districts in Lancaster County are good to very good.
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These kids live in Berks County, not Lancaster County, where the private school is located.

PA Woman said...

Really now said...

Surely there was a new house closer to the school.

They liked that school, why move far away from it? Is the mc mansion worth the kids have a 2 hr commute for the next 14 years?

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It's the only house they could find on the market with a separate apartment for Jon to live in (smurk).

hereshecomes said...

@Reading news--I know they now live in Berks County, but they began attending "the school" when they lived in Lancaster County. I think both their old and new houses were in decent public school districts. I think Beth's son attended "the school" as a senior but had gone to a public school in Berks County before that.

She's..um..RUINED said...

For whatever reason, my first post did not go through, so I will try again.

I have read that Kate went to private school; I am unsure if Jon did.

I do not know the accountability ratings regarding the public school in their county, so perhaps someone with local info can give a fair comparison of the local -vs- private school's quality.

These kids are not the only kids that jump on the school bus in that parking lot! There appear to be many others as well...why aren't people talking about those parents??

I am in no way defending these two horrible parents, but if Kate grew up in private school, the twins have always attended that school, then I don't see what the big deal is.

It would have been smart if the parents had purchased a home CLOSER to the school, but you have to remember we are talking about Dumb and Dumber!!

I only wonder how long they will be able to afford tuition for all of those kids....there is no way they are going for free...schools have salaries to pay, and I am sure the G's have outplayed their goodwill with the school by now.

And as for the kids being ranked in such young ages?? I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF SUCH NONSENSE. I would have to see proof that this private school ranks students in these lower grades.

hereshecomes said...

@She's..um..RUINED...

The private Christian school Kate attended is almost nothing like the exclusive private school the kids attend. Kate's school was very small and was not intended to prepare students for admission to highly competitive secular colleges.

The kids' school does, for the most part, produce kids who are prepared to go on to academically elite colleges and universities; however, locally, a lot of the cachet is the school's hefty price tag and the fact that it does not accept all who apply.

Take this evalution as you will--I attended a public school instead of "the school" and somehow managed to graduate Phi Beta Kappa from a highly selective college.

She's...um..RUINED said...

hereshecomes said...

@She's..um..RUINED...

The private Christian school Kate attended is almost nothing like the exclusive private school the kids attend. Kate's school was very small and was not intended to prepare students for admission to highly competitive secular colleges.

The kids' school does, for the most part, produce kids who are prepared to go on to academically elite colleges and universities; however, locally, a lot of the cachet is the school's hefty price tag and the fact that it does not accept all who apply.

Take this evalution as you will--I attended a public school instead of "the school" and somehow managed to graduate Phi Beta Kappa from a highly selective college.

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Thanks for the info regarding Kate's schooling. I knew that she didn't go to an elite private school; I simply meant that since she did not attend public school, that would not have been an option for her kids.

It stands to reason that the private school the G children attend are not clamoring for their attendance (since I am sure there is a waiting list), so the parents would certainly be footing the entire tuition bill.

Spoiled? Not so much said...

People keep saying how spoiled the Gosselin kids are, but they are deprived of the simplest pleasures by their lazy, narcissistic mother. Kate thinks a vacation to Florida or a dude ranch with cameras in your face is a way to spoil your kids. Not so much. You know what 5 year olds would consider absolutely the best, the biggest indulgence? How about going to Chuck E Cheese for no reason? How about eating a treat in the middle of the afternoon instead of following Kate's rigid feeding schedule? How about continuing the gymnastics lessons that they so enjoyed? Kate won't spoil those kids in any way that THEY would choose to be spoiled, only in a way that she chooses.

PA Woman said...

She's...um..RUINED said...
It stands to reason that the private school the G children attend are not clamoring for their attendance (since I am sure there is a waiting list), so the parents would certainly be footing the entire tuition bill.
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I've read several places that the twins is paid for. So that is untrue?

She's..um..RUINED said...

PA Woman said...

She's...um..RUINED said...
It stands to reason that the private school the G children attend are not clamoring for their attendance (since I am sure there is a waiting list), so the parents would certainly be footing the entire tuition bill.
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I've read several places that the twins is paid for. So that is untrue?
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The parents are both on record as saying the twins were on scholarship. But, as their income grew, no one knows when (or if) this scholarship continued for the twins, or was later applied to the tups as well.

If this school is as exclusive as locals pertain it to be, I see no logical reason why the school would let the G children attend for free. There are plenty of other children with parents who are willing to pay tuition! Jon and Kate cannot claim financial hardship, given the income they have generated the past few years.

No Drama Mama said...

The school district that the kids reside IS a very good school district. I have several friends whose children attend the public school. Their sports teams are well organized and competitive and the cirriculum is challenging.

Still, some people elect to send their children to private schools for various reasons. The school in which the 8 are enrolled IS an excellent private school. Most people, if given the opportunity to have their children attend, would jump at the chance.

That being said... I could not imagine living that far and having my kids bussed 45 mins each way on a daily basis, ESPECIALLY the tups who are only in junior kindergarten. That's just me, though.

The bus stop is not only for the Gosselins, it is for any child that attends the private school. The school district is required to provide transportation since it is within a certain amount of miles (I believe 30) but that does not mean door to door pick up. They probably chose a pickup/drop off point right around 30 miles.

Not Watching TLC said...

In re: to TLC not filming at the bus stop... there was one episode recounted here where TLC filmed the first day of school and had the kids practice running to the bus for multiple takes. So indeed some school bus was delayed until filming could be satisifed.

There has been also speculation that TLC/Khate tipped off the Paps so if the Paps took pics at the schoolbus loading they DO have responsibility for this.

As well as Khate getting on the bus and encouraging further filming AND delay of bus, as well as other kids being in photos by accident due to her preening for the cameras.

And the bus is using private property (aka parking lot owned by someone) and the Paps could be told to leave as they were trespassing if anyone would REALLY complain.

Again, if my child was on the bus with the Gosselins, I would remove them and the school would know about my displeasure LOUD and CLEAR.

no big deal said...

i live in rural lancaster county and my bus ride was 40 minutes easy with driving so far between stops. lot of ground to cover. whatever, I talked with friends, read a book, did some homework. Do you really think a 5 or 9 year old kid would care that much if their bus ride was 20 minutes or 40? I don't think so. That's just the way it is, the kids are used to it. Seems to me they are back at the bus stop before 5, which leaves plenty of time fore eating, playing, homework, and sleeping.

PA Woman said...

She's..um..RUINED said...


If this school is as exclusive as locals pertain it to be, I see no logical reason why the school would let the G children attend for free. There are plenty of other children with parents who are willing to pay tuition! Jon and Kate cannot claim financial hardship, given the income they have generated the past few years.

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I see your point, but I did read when the six started that the school gave the family a substantial discount for having so many in the family in the school at the same time. Not due to financial hardships, but due to a policy of the school (as well as other private schools) to discount tuition to large families. Can't remember off hand where I read that. I had also read back when the original scholarships were awarded that they were for more then a year; I thought the award was through 6th grade but it may have been 3rd. So, even though their financial situation has changed, it doesn't mean the original scholarship has even reached it's term limits yet.

no said...

And the bus is using private property (aka parking lot owned by someone) and the Paps could be told to leave as they were trespassing if anyone would REALLY complain.
Again, if my child was on the bus with the Gosselins, I would remove them and the school would know about my displeasure LOUD and CLEAR.
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Im surprised other parents did not complain about this. I would not want my child to be filmed by accident.

Private property or no, I'll bet if the police got involved, they could have cleared the paps away.

Kat said...

The school district is REQUIRED to provide transportation for a PRIVATE school? I find that hard to believe. Some private schools in our area do provide bus transportation, but through private arrangements (the parents pay). Others arrange car pools among families, or leave it up to the parents as to how they get the kids to school.

The only instance I know of where the school district has to provide transportation to a non-public school is for a child who cannot be adequately served by the local school, and has a special education plan in place. Even then, this is stricly limited in our area, and mostly only available to children with special transportation needs (wheelchairs, for example).

JD in PA said...

No Drama Mama said...

The school district is required to provide transportation since it is within a certain amount of miles (I believe 30)



Actually, as the law is written..

Local school boards that provide transportation for public school students to school must provide identical transportation services for nonpublic school students enrolled in nonprofit schools within the district boundaries or outside the district boundaries at a distance not exceeding ten miles by the nearest public highway. Transportation must be provided when the nonpublic school is in session as determined by the directors of the nonpublic school. Local school districts transporting nonpublic students receive per capita subsidy from the Commonwealth. 24 Pa. Cons. Stat. § 13-1361; 21-2114; 25-2509.3.






I know this as fact as it was an issue for our child's transportation to a non-pub school. Additionally, it is the district's discretion as to how to provide transportation. This could include one hour rides and transfers. Also, they may be sharing a bus with kids of all ages.

can't stand her said...

If my kids were on that bus, I would be up in arms if the Gosselins called the paps to make sure they took repeated pictures of them at the bus stop. How selfish and obtuse of Kate to exploit those kids at a place that should be a safe haven for the kids. The presence of the paps serves to distance the kids from their peers, makes them stand out further when all kids want to do is fit in and be considered normal. Kate is such a media whore that she cares more about being photographed than her children's safety and happiness. I can't imagine the paps would willingly show up beyond the first day or two of school without being on TLC's payroll. Other things to suggest the paps were paid by tlc to keep the Gosselins in the news: 1.After showing up daily for months, the paps suddenly stopped showing up at the bus upon the show's cancellation 2. If Steve really were worth his fee, he would protect the kids' safety and dignity by keeping the paps at bay. Since the parking lot is private property, it would take one phone call to keep
the paps at bay 3.Kate suddenly became enough of a morning person to get up at 5:30 to get camera-ready for the two minutes she would be seen dropping off the kids at the bus. Shame on her for using her kids yet again as a way to bring attention to herself. Kate must be going into withdrawals now that the paps have forgotten her. How hypocritical of her to pretend to hate all the attention when she probably orchestrated it in the first place.

tuesday said...

What great opportunities she has missed connecting with her children by deciding to bus, rather than drive.

As a SAHM I find her shameful in her use of time. While working outside of the home parents might find this a neccesity, I have very little patience for parents not working outside of the home that make so little effort.

Life is short and so are her childrens childhoods. She may think that her children are healthy --but being healthy also involves emotional health.

Brummygirl said...

If this school is as exclusive as locals pertain it to be, I see no logical reason why the school would let the G children attend for free.
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Ah...but Kate may have had a coupon!! :)

Tami said...

First of all I would not have my kids ride a bus for that long. But if they had to, I would not want to drive them. To drive them would mean to go all the way there and then do what? Stick around and wait or make another trip all the way home and back again? The thought of that is not appealing. It would take so much gas and you couldn't really accomplish anything waiting all day for them unless you got a job in the town where their school is. I just can't realistically see doing the long round trip school drop off and pick up twice a day. I see that it would mean more time with the kids, but again, I would avoid the long bus ride for them at any cost anyway.

need to rant said...

I'm sure the other families who attend the Gosselins' school would not be amused to find out that two of the eight have their tuition waived and the remaining 6 have a deep discount (if true). While it's the school's decision what to charge them, the financial hit the school takes on behalf of this now-privileged family has to be made up somehow. I wonder if there was a raise in tuition to make up for 8 kids paying less than the full tuition. I remember seeing Kate's list of expenses that she inexplicably copied at Kinkos and held in such a fashion that the paps got a picture. The list said tuition cost either $70,000 or $80,000 a year. I don't know what the full price of tuition would be at that school, but that figure sounds deeply discounted to me. I wonder if that school has lived to regret admitting this family. All that drama plus the financial drain of schooling those kids sounds thankless...literally. I'm sure they've never gotten a thanks from Kate nor have they been the
recipient of donations for annual giving drives from them. Kate's brain doesn't work that way; love offerings go in one direction only.

readerlady said...

re the twins being "first and second in their class'

Perhaps, rather than class standing, Jon was referring to their ranking on standardized testing? Many/most schools start administering those standardized tests in the first grade. The twins appear to be bright enough to have scored in the top percentiles.

hereshecomes said...

@readerlady--Even if the twins scored first and second in their class on standardized tests (which I can't really see happening, as I don't think they are that bright), it would be very unethical, IMO, for school personnel to disclose such a ranking, especially in early elementary school. I have to think it's wishful thinking or a figment of someone's imagination.

My siblings and I as well as my school-aged children have always scored at the 99th percentile on standardized tests, according to the score sheets provided; however, no one ever disclosed in such a specific way how the scores related to those of our classmates. Besides, I know for a fact that this school has a history of demanding good attendance and not allowing kids out just for any old reason--telling the Gosselins that their kids are above everyone else would be giving them leverage to demand special treatment, IMO.

LV Lisa said...

Re: school tuition discount

I know a family in my area (eastern PA) who sends their four kids to a local private Catholic school. They told me once that their school's policy is to charge tuition for the first 3 kids in a family. Any after that attend for free. It's possible the Gosselin's school has a similar policy.

Also, many daycares in this area give a small discount for each additional child in a family who attend.

Smile and Nod said...

"The school district is REQUIRED to provide transportation for a PRIVATE school? I find that hard to believe."

Believe it .. .it's true.

To those that think the tups would get extra services (speech therapy etc.) provided by public schools if they attended them are only partially correct. They would only receive them if the parent requested testing and then asked for the services which would require an IEP.

That aside, diagnosing the Gosselin 6 with delays without ever having met them (which some GWOP posters are alluding too) is not in the best interest of the children.

Inmaturity , and many singleton 5 yr olds still are, is not a disability or a delay.

In most cases the very bright as well as the immature kindergarten kids all level out at about 3rd grade.

I don't see some baby talk at this age as a big deal. Nor do I see the bus ride to be harmful either.
It is a good time for them to socialize with other kids their age and that alone can improve their speech.

She's..um..RUINED said...

If the kids attend at a discounted rate, I am sure all the parents paying full tuition rate JUST LOVE Kate and Jon--lol!!!

It's hard to be a deadbeat while your kids attend an exclusive school....it is an art, I guess, and Kate and Jon have perfected it.

It makes me wonder then, after all the financials are made public, if the school can (or will) re-evaluate the scholarship status of the G kids. I am sure the school has a clause written in that they can re-visit the tuition rates of any family at any given time. If not, the school's admin isn't very smart. This school is not a charity!

Given that, however, there is no way these kids could ever attend public school...it would be open season on the G kids..just because their parents exploited them.

Geri said...

no big deal said...
i live in rural lancaster county and my bus ride was 40 minutes easy with driving so far between stops. lot of ground to cover. whatever, I talked with friends, read a book, did some homework. Do you really think a 5 or 9 year old kid would care that much if their bus ride was 20 minutes or 40? I don't think so. That's just the way it is, the kids are used to it. Seems to me they are back at the bus stop before 5, which leaves plenty of time fore eating, playing, homework, and sleeping.

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The Gosselins have both said they get the children up at 5:30 a.m. in order to be ready for the bus on time. If so, they need to be in bed by 7:30 p.m. to get their required 10 hours of sleep (kids need more than adults). If they get home by 5:00 this doesn't "leave plenty of time for eating, playing, homework, and sleeping." I feel so sorry for those kids.

Goawayfools said...

The parents of the other kids at the G8's school must be beside themselves if those kids are still on scholarship. I don't fault the Gosselin kids, of course. But how infuriating that their ungrateful, entitled parents, now in the 99th% tax bracket, may still be the beneficiaries of the school's generosity. Especially in light of the absolute CRAP they (as in Katan) openly spend their money on to show off: luxury cars (plural), megaboobs, ongoing excessive plastic surgeries, limos *eye roll*, new/ugly clothes with nearly every sighting, etc. Even a millionaire would have a hard time affording that tuition for 8 kids x 14 years, so offering a discounted tuition to the Gosselins wasn't bad on the school's part. However, Jon and Kate, in their entitled stupidity, may very well have signed up for a school they cannot afford in the long run, even with the discount. Their school was gracious when they admitted Katan's tragic spawn. She responds by flaunting that she could have afforded the tuition after all, at least this year, with all her show-offy crap. Wonder what she'll do when the money dries up? Will she revisit those shameless love offerings? Tell the school 'it's not fair' that she be asked to pay the tuition she can no longer afford? Whine that her golden platters are too special to change schools? Say the taxpayers owe her because they supported fertility research in the past? (And apparently forced her to get pregnant too.) That woman is a piece of work.

Moo said...

The Gosselins have both said they get the children up at 5:30 a.m. in order to be ready for the bus on time. If so, they need to be in bed by 7:30 p.m. to get their required 10 hours of sleep (kids need more than adults). If they get home by 5:00 this doesn't "leave plenty of time for eating, playing, homework, and sleeping." I feel so sorry for those kids."


Wow,so Katie only has to put up with them for about 3 hrs a day.

Worst 9 minutes of the day said...

Moo said...

Wow, so Katie only has to put up with them for about 3 hrs a day

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Generous Moo,

If inside sources are to be believed, Kate is a hands-off mother extraordinaire. It has been said that the nannies do 95% of the work with regards to the kids. While that may or may not be an exaggeration, indulge me here:

3 hours = 180 minutes
180 min x 95% = 171 minutes/day with nannies
180 min x 5% = 9 minutes/day with Kate

How sad is that? She should have just gone into robbing banks if all she wanted was money.

Lower heidelberg Neighbor said...

Reply to Pinkdiamonds 611

I know for a fact that they do not receive free tuition.

Kat said...

Wow, glad I'm not a taxpayer in PA subsidizing wealthy people who can afford to send their kids to private schools by providing their transportation!! Can't believe someone hasn't started a revolution over this issue.

As for special services, around here, kids can receive special services through the local school district even if they attend private school. Of course, that would mean 1) someone would have to take them to wherever the services are provided (probably the local school) on a regular basis, and 2) Kate would have to admit that her children need help. Don't think either of those are going to happen in Kate's mansion.

my9cats said...

Kat said...

The school district is REQUIRED to provide transportation for a PRIVATE school? I find that hard to believe."
Shortened.....

My daughter went to parochial school K-12. On Long Island, NY bus transportation is provided within 15 miles of the school. Although we did not utilize our local schools, we pay HIGH school taxes (mine are 7K a year and that
does not include property taxes etc). To compensate for our 'donation' of tax money to the school district, transportation and books (not religious ones) are provided. This is only fair.

If the school is beyond the limits parents make their own arrangements. They can drop their child off at a closer distance school and pay a fee to the school district who is providing the transportation.

my9cats said...

Oooops forgot to add the public school district also provides a late bus for those who avail themselves of after school activities. Also, if needed, the district pays for any testing/evaluations for a learning disability. Again, when you are paying 7K a year in school taxes, it's fair.

Im_in_PR said...

3 hours = 180 minutes
180 min x 95% = 171 minutes/day with nannies
180 min x 5% = 9 minutes/day with Kate

How sad is that? She should have just gone into robbing banks if all she wanted was money.


When you have a toxic parent like Kate, it seems its far better for the kids to be away from her as much as possible.

jayley said...

Thank Goodness she only has 9 minutes or so estimated time with her children Worst 9.

A blessing in disguise to be sure!

Jenny said...

I know it's not possible for everyone to drive their kids to and from school...but I just wanted to comment that when my son was growing up and school was about 40 minutes away from our house, except for the 2 years or so that we tried out a carpool, I drove him to school each morning and picked him up each night. We'd sing silly songs, say a quick prayer or visit all the way there and on the drive home each afternoon, I'd get to hear all about his day and often we stopped for a quick treat. And on some Fridays, I'd have the van full of his buddies who were coming for an overnight and would get to hear them all chatting away. So, so fun! I swear it was the best minutes of my day, just hanging out with my kid, you know? And again, I know this doesn't work for everyone so for sure please don't feel bad if you can't or choose not to drive your kids to school. I just wanted to mention my own personal experience. I look back on those days now and it just makes me smile.

Also, just as an aside regarding the article about Jon...one quick thing. I also read somewhere a long time ago that Jon had been fired from his IT job early on but that it was because he was spending too much time on the computer doing non-related stuff....BUT that non-related stuff he was doing was searching online for ways to provide for his soon-to-be HUGE family. Things like looking for companies that donate their products to families who have multiple births. So IF that's true, it kind of sheds a little somewhat more positive light on Jon...that if he indeed was being a little derelict in his on the job duties, it may be because he was young and totally petrified as to how he was going to provide for his family. Not excusing him...just taking a stab at a possible explanation.

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Tuesday said:
"I have very little patience for parents not working outside of the home that make so little effort."
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Thank you, Tuesday, for unknowingly addressing a pet peeve of mine...the "not working outside of the home" part of your comment. I'll explain. I used to work in the insurance industry and I've always taken it on as my personal mission to do my part in correcting something that most people say when asked about what their spouse does. The question usually goes, "Does your wife work?" And the answer goes, "No, she's a stay-at-home mom." I truly don't want to nit-pick but as most of us know, stay-a-home moms DO work. In fact, I was in the office one day and a good friend who happened to be a SAHM called me...she was dealing with frustration over some issue with one of her kids and she said to me, "Now I know why women get jobs...it's easier than staying home!" Now of course we all know that's not really why women get jobs, she was just venting...but I mention her comment just to illustrate my point. Not to get carried away here but I feel like women who choose to be with their children just don't get the credit they deserve. So whenever I've been in the career world and in the company of young guys who answer that question with, "No, she doesn't work, she stays at home with the kids" I very gently smile and correct them saying something like, "Oh now Dave, you know your wife works when she's home with the kids...let's re-word what you just said." I've been in many staff meetings where someone makes that comment but then sees me there and corrects himself. I know they probably find it very annoying of me...but hey, I do what I can to further the appreciation of all the precious moms who (are able to) choose to stay home with their kids! Ha! So Tuesday, when I saw your comment, I just had to share my little story. :) (Thanks for letting me share...and please forgive me for being a little off-topic with this particular paragraph.)

konspiracytheory said...

Smile and Nod said:

"To those that think the tups would get extra services (speech therapy etc.) provided by public schools if they attended them are only partially correct. They would only receive them if the parent requested testing and then asked for the services which would require an IEP."

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That's a common misconception - actually, a child can receive speech (or any other school-related therapy) without an IEP. In those cases, the child doesn't have enough issues/delays to warrant an IEP - then the therapy falls under the term "building-level services".

hereshecomes said...

In PA, public schools are funded by property taxes paid by all homeowners. I think that is largely the rationale behind requiring public school districts to provide some measure of transportation to private school students who live in their borders. In the case of the Gosselin kids' school, however, parents do have to pay to use the Berks County bus.

The particular private school we are discussing subscribes to an "intermediate unit" that provides services such as speech therapy, learning support, mental health support, and gifted enrichment programs to students at member public and private schools. In most cases, the IU sends a specialized teacher to the school to work with children in need of services. That way, the schools need not all hire numerous specialists who may or may not be needed all the time by their students.

Barb said...

Both of my sons rode the school bus to their catholic elementary school every morning and were picked up between 7:15-7:30 a.m. because their school schedule was with the public/jr. high schedule of the town. I was blessed to have work close enough to make it on time for 8:00 also. My sons were 7 school years apart from each other so I as a parent just made the best arrangements I could to get both boys to school and myself to work on time.

rustedhalo568 said...

someone asked a "local" about the Elizabethtown school district? I grew up about 2 minutes from the former Gosselin house. I was in a different school district, and my education was adequate. E-town was worse...IMHO the district is pretty sucktacular, not only educationally but also extra-curricularly. I would go so far as to not buy a house in that school district if I had children, because I would feel it necessary to enroll them in private school.

I do have a question. Now that the show is over, why is everyone still busting every decision and choice these parents make for their children's lives? Seriously? I thought this would all end when the show was cancelled.

Bucky said...

I also read somewhere a long time ago that Jon had been fired from his IT job early on but that it was because he was spending too much time on the computer doing non-related stuff....BUT that non-related stuff he was doing was searching online for ways to provide for his soon-to-be HUGE family. Things like looking for companies that donate their products to families who have multiple births. So IF that's true, it kind of sheds a little somewhat more positive light on Jon...that if he indeed was being a little derelict in his on the job duties, it may be because he was young and totally petrified as to how he was going to provide for his family. Not excusing him...just taking a stab at a possible explanation.
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I humbly disagree with you.
You are not paid to come to work to do your own thing.

He could easily surf the web on his own time.

Remember his employer also stated that Jon boasted he would never have to work again.

CarolS461 said...

Funny you all should mention the long bus ride and how the kids must feel. I agree with a lot of you. I'm sure they are somewhat relieved to get on the bus and be their own little person without Mommy Dearest in their face. I can only imagine the fear in them as they pull back into the parking at the end of the day - wondering what she'll be like. No wonder they all have "blank" expressions on their faces! I would, too.

I'm sure Kate does her own little "happy dance" as the bus pulls out of the parking lot.

I'm just glad for the kids' sake that the cameras aren't allowed anywhere near the school. I wish the cameras would just go away. How many times do we need to see Kate filling up her car at the gas station? Isn't there more important news they should be filming?

I thought I read someplace that a "benefactor" has provided for them to attend the school. I might have that wrong though.

Vanessa said...

Did he actually SAY "I'll never have to work again"? Where and when was this? :=)

lazynoworkethic said...

Jon was fired for using company time to look for donations...BUT before that he was also moved around to like three different JOBS in that company because he couldn't do any of them well.

They finally got rid of him after giving him SO many chances!

her said...

Vanessa said...
Did he actually SAY "I'll never have to work again"? Where and when was this? :=)


On this site somewehre there was a link to an article where the employer came on record to explain that Jon was not fired becuase his wife had 6 foetuses in her belly. He also speaks how kate came to the work place to yell at Jon because Jon's father was suppsoed to bring her lunch and had not.

DoNotTakeMyPicturePlease said...

Not Watching TLC said...
Much better question: is it fair to the other kids riding the bus to have their faces broadcasted on a national television program when they were not paid or asked permission?

As a parent, I would be ROYALLY ticked off to find out that someone was videotaping my daughter on her schoolbus for a TELEVISION program. I would go hire a lawyer and the school would be HEARING FROM ME.
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I agree with you. My relative receives physical therapy at a national charitable organization's swimming pool and, when they update their website with new photos of activities centering around their pool and facility, they cannot photograph or videotape my relative in or around the pool...not as a part of group shots or background material; nothing...unless she's signed a paper that says she consents to it. (She chooses not to be photographed.) Privacy...is privacy. We have rights to privacy. There's so little of it left these days.

Jenny said...

Bucky said: I humbly disagree with you. You are not paid to come to work to do your own thing.
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Hi Bucky. But I agree with YOU. :) I said I wasn't excusing Jon's behavior if it's true he lost his job due to surfing the web in order to find companies who might provide freebies for his family instead of doing what he was getting paid to do. I said I was just trying to search for an explanation for why he wouldn't do his job and that's the only half way positive reason I could find for him neglecting his duties. The only other explanation is that he didn't give a rip and was ripping off the company by just doing his own thing. At least from what I saw of Jon during the 5seasons of the show, he didn't come off as being irresponsible enough to not care about providing for his family.

Anyway, I guess none of us knows for sure what really happened of course...I was just sharing what I had read and if it's true, it was at least a possible EXPLANATION as to why he may have blown his job...but as I wrote, I wasn't excusing or condoning it.

Sadly, it's all pretty much water under the bridge at this point. I'm betting they both look back occasionally and wish they could have made different decisions.

E-town resident said...

@rustedhalo:

I'm assuming you went to Donegal. Don't know how long ago that was but take a look at this website http://www.psk12.com/rating/USindivphp/SchID_6372.html

EASD is ranked (standard) 7/17 of Lancaster County Schools and 152/693 out of the entire state. Not too shabby.

Donegal Schools are ranked (standard) 13/17 of Lancaster County Schools and 335/693 out of the entire state.

Granted these are 2001 numbers I don't feel like paying for more recent numbers, but if you look at the website for Lancaster newspaper, you will also see that E-town's scores are much higher than Donegal's. Last year or the year before the football team went pretty far in playoffs and for the most part went undefeated. I say that's pretty good, how did Donegal do?

I'm for one am happy to be paying my taxes to EASD. At least they are building schools to meet the demand, unlike Donegal.

No, I didn't grow up in E-town but I'm a proud citizen. There are places far worse than here.

Bucky said...

Jenny said...
Sadly, it's all pretty much water under the bridge at this point. I'm betting they both look back occasionally and wish they could have made different decisions."


I will bet they do too. I hope other tlc familys will learn from their example.

Kat_momof3 said...

here's my view... my nephew rides about that long... the same ride my hubby had to at that age... but to PUBLIC school... because that's how long it took to pick up everyone and get them there... and that was with the number of busses the school can afford.

As there is no private school nearby AND it couldn't be afforded anyway... and this public school is rated REALLY well, there's no other option.

BUT my hubby hated it, my nephew hates it, and all the parents involved hate it.

If there were another option, they wouldn't let this be how their children get transported.

So I don't think that this is right for the Gosselin 8. I think they deserve to go to a good school closer to home.

However, they are now at a point where this is the school they know and the teachers and classmates they know and care about. I don't want their lives suffering anymore big changes, either. It's a toughie.

anotherthing... said...

I agree with some of the previous posters: theyre not putting their kids first (again... STILL... whatever). Its too long of a trek.

If the school is that important to them, they should move closer.

Its that simple.

Its not as if this house is closer to Jon or Kates job -because they dont have one... their kids do.

Move closer and the problem goes away.

Duh.

1momski said...

anotherthing, and others, I too agree that the bus ride is way too long for kids that age. Think about it, they have to sit and follow directions through a structured day and then sit on a bus for an hour. At 5???????
Remember how Kate snapped at one of the boys for dancing in place while she was loading the car after picking him up. She does not for once consider what her poor children are dealing with. Those kids must go nuts after school once home, I expect they take out their frustrations on each other while is upstairs on the phone

Kat said...

Well, maybe it doesn't really matter because Kate will be schlepping everyone down to NC pretty soon. Think a "fan" will buy that 1.1 mil monstrosity for $1.3? Probably only if Kate cleans the fridge before she leaves! LOL...

If it happens, I feel sorry for you Carolinians, but I bet there will be people lined up on the PA border happily waving bye-bye!

She is evil said...

I hope the gosselins do sell the Orphanage. It has such bad karma, such unhappiness associated with it since they moved in. The house was obviously a home prior to them invading it, with that gorgeous landscaping and the barn with the beloved horses that Kate got rid of despite promising the previous owners to keep them. All that land and no dogs or horses to enjoy it. That huge house used to imprison 8 neglected children. It sounds strange, but that house deserves better.

Oh and the Etown house? TLC could make a fortune filming the new family cleaning out that filthy hellhole, especially its fridge. GWOPers can donate the 10 million q-tips and all the bleach they need to make that disgusting house livable again.

Tami said...

I do have a question. Now that the show is over, why is everyone still busting every decision and choice these parents make for their children's lives? Seriously? I thought this would all end when the show was cancelled.
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:::sigh::: It is far from over. How is it over when TLC is still trying to coerce the dad into giving over the kids to film again? Or when the greedy, lazy mother will not get a job but is chasing fame again and wanting to force her kids along for the ride? (and the dad is not giving up on fame either!) When she is still going around complaining it was taken from them too soon and is going to try to hang on until her last dying breath to exploiting them, it is not over yet..When she says that she is done selling them out and moves on and admits constantly having a camera in their face is not a good thing, there might be a chance.

Vanessa said...

So when he was fired he told his boss "I'll never have to work again?" Pretty presumptuous of Jon at THAT point in time, don't you think? :)

CakeIsGreat said...

I think it's too long for any 5yr old. But I don't what school you go too (public, private, religious), kids are kids and they can be mean, the bus can be a prime place for getting teased. Of course it depends on if there's a matron, how many, if said matron(s) is attentive and if the driver is fully aware of what's being said behind him. The Gosselin kids, with their potty training on Youtube and cable are prime targets to be picked on. I see it as more time for them to have to deal with the consequences of their lives being sold to a Network. I refuse to believe that just because it's a private school those kids/parents don't know anything about the show and tabloid stories. I do believe that Kate probably thinks private school families are "above" knowing about such mediocre things like US Weekly because she's that delusional. Those families don't get sponsored groceries and household items sent to their house, Kate, they have to stand in line in drug/food stores. They sit in doctor office waiting rooms. They do see the magazines.

Pilgrim Soul said...

I don't have a problem with a parents choosing a private school for their child. However, I do wonder why the Gosselins didn't buy a home closer to the school in question. They could have lived anywhere they pleased for 1.1 million, I would think. At least 1/2 hour closer to the school.

Midnight Serenade said...

"They could have lived anywhere they pleased for 1.1 million, I would think. At least 1/2 hour closer to the school.

They live 40 minutes from the school. A half hour close to the school would have only cut the distance by 10 minutes. I think the amount of land, rather than the expanse of the house, was a big factor. You remember how Kate stood at the window with the "mine as far as the eye can see" statement? It was the property that excited her, not the house. Twenty-plus acres, with a house that size, isn't easy to come by in very close proximity to the school. Perhaps, though, they weren't intending to stay there for the long-term, opting in the future to move to a warmer climate.

Midnight Serenade said...

"Of course it depends on if there's a matron, how many, if said matron(s) is attentive and if the driver is fully aware of what's being said behind him."

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Being a real dummy from a rural area, I have to ask...what is a "matron?" There are no matrons here!

CakeIsGreat said...

Midnight Serenade said...

Being a real dummy from a rural area, I have to ask...what is a "matron?" There are no matrons here!

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I really don't know why that specific word is given to them around here but it's the other adult that rides on the bus. She (I don't know why they're always women either!) basically keeps track of what is going on with the kids behavior wise, makes sure everyone gets out when they're suppose to, and if there's a child with a disability she'll assist him/her getting on or off the bus.

PA Woman said...

Midnight Serenade said...
I think the amount of land, rather than the expanse of the house, was a big factor. You remember how Kate stood at the window with the "mine as far as the eye can see" statement? It was the property that excited her, not the house. Twenty-plus acres, with a house that size, isn't easy to come by in very close proximity to the school. Perhaps, though, they weren't intending to stay there for the long-term, opting in the future to move to a warmer climate.

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I say it was the 20 plus acres and the garage apartment. Combine the two and Kate and Jon could totally avoid each other...or so they thought.

Midnight Serenade said...

"I say it was the 20 plus acres and the garage apartment. Combine the two and Kate and Jon could totally avoid each other...or so they thought."

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Was the apartment really necessary? Couldn't she just have thrown him in the finished basement like she did in the "old" house??!!

my 2 cents said...

My kids used to go to a private school that was a 45 minute drive. There was no bus, I drove them. There really weren't any other private school options that would have shortened the drive and we didn't want to sent them to public. The drive was part of the reason we pulled them out and are now homeschooling. I'm not a Gosselin fan but I won't really criticize them on this point. The kids are away 8 hours a day in school already, so another hour or so might be worth it if this school is really great. I don't want MY kids away that long on a daily basis but I'm not Kate Gosselin. (Thank God!)

PA Woman said...

Midnight Serenade said...
"I say it was the 20 plus acres and the garage apartment. Combine the two and Kate and Jon could totally avoid each other...or so they thought."

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Was the apartment really necessary? Couldn't she just have thrown him in the finished basement like she did in the "old" house??!!

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It someone's mind it was. Think about it. Kate tells him the marriage is over in October, and they suddenly move to this house in November. Just a couple of months earlier they were discussing moving to Virginia or North Carolina. Something perpetuated a sudden move, and I think it was to accomodate the marriage scam they were protraying.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"Something perpetuated a sudden move, and I think it was to accomodate the marriage scam they were protraying."

Not necessarily, but that might have had something to do with it. They needed to leave the neighborhood. Things were getting very uncomfortable there. It was/is zoned residential and they were taking the heat for running a business. Wide open spaces and acreage allowed a more hospitable environment for film crew trucks, equipment, etc. etc. The previous cul de sac was just getting a bit overcrowded and violations of zoning ordinances were being looked into.