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Tangerine Tanya said...

Ode to Katie Irene:

You're a mean one, Katie Grinch.
You really are a heel.
You're as cuddly as a cactus,
You're as charming as a eel.
Katie Grinch

You're a bad banana
With a greasy black peel.

You're a monster, Katie Grinch.
Your heart's an empty soul.
Your brain is full of spiders,
You've got garlic in your soul.
Katie Grinch.

I wouldn't touch you with a 39 1/2 foot pole.

You're a vile one, Katie Grinch.
You have termites in your smile.
You have all the tender sweetness
Of a seasick crocodile.
Katie Grinch.

Given the choice between the two of you.
I'd take the seasick crocodile.

You're a foul one,Katie Grinch.
You're a nasty, wasted skunk.
Your heart is full on unwashed socks
Your soul is full of gunk
Katie Grinch

You're a rotter, Katie Grinch
You're the queen of sinful sots
With moldy purple spots
Katie Grinch

Your soul is an appalling dump
heap overflowing with the most disgraceful assortment of deplorable rubbish imaginable.
Mangled up in tangled up knots.
Katie Grinch

You nauseate me, Katie Grinch
With a nauseaus super-naus
You're a crooked jerky jockey
And you drive a crooked horse
Katie Grinch

You're a three decker saurkraut and toadstool sandwich with arsenic sauce Katie Grinch

Three words that best describe you are "Stink Stank Stunck."

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Ohio Buckeye said...

Tangerine Tanya: WOW! You rock! Love your ode! You found a very creative way to accurately depict Katie Irene. Very impressive, and I wish TLC would put to use some imagination and creativity like yours instead of spoon feeding us this circus freak show programming they have going.

Tuesday: thank you and same to you. May the new year be GosselinFree for all of us!

Ohio Buckeye said...

@Marketing Major on a previous thread re: Baba W going for the boomer generation....

How do the media people go this far astray? You have a woman born in or around 1929, so trying to appeal to the older generation, yet she's covering current tabloid crap, which, I'm guessing, is not exactly the stuff the older generation wants to see.


You have the Gosselins who pitched themselves as an ordinary family, struggling financially to support 8 kids and then they go get hair plugs, tooth veneers, foobs, $$$ cars & clothes, and, of course, the acred mansion.

This kind of schizophrenic brand reinventions shoot the previously-successful brand squarely in the foot. It's akin to switching the affable Mr. Whipple from pushing soft toilet paper to hawking assault weapons at Walmart.

Are these decision makers so deluded as to believe the initial brand's following are SO rabid they will buy ANY re-invention? If so, how insulting to viewers.

As for Baba specifically, she's as bad as Jon: Jon is still trying to recreate his high school identity though in his 30's and a father of 8. Baba is of an age where she really ought to be wiser than to obsequiosly interview people her own generation are likely to consider disgusting losers.

Time for all of them to return to Marketing 101 class. The boat has sailed and they have missed it.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Just been reading through some older posts here.

I have kids, and I can't help wondering how Kate's parents must be feeling. Lordy be, if my kids grew into the pathological mess Katie Irene has become, I'd be bereft at the loss of my child's potential.

One has to wonder WHAT HAPPENED to Katie Irene to create a person so lost in her own egoism that she has completely lost her grasp of connection to the larger world around her.


It brings to mind the old question: nature vs. nurture.

Something is VERY wrong with Kate, and I'm at a loss as to understand how she came to such a sad state. If she ever possessed any level of empathy and wisdom, she has definitely lost both along the path she has chosen.

Sadly, her kids are unwillingly stuck on the path chosen by their misguided parents.

For the Moment? said...

Very good poem TT.

So Sugary has the clips up of the day they took the kids to a photo shoot or interview and they were mobbed to the point they had to set up barricades. How frightened everyone looked mostly the adults including Kate. The kids must have been terrified. Maybe Kate could show this clip when she is trying to make her case that it is not harmful for her kids to be on TV. And if ever anyone has to wonder about TLC's motives for getting the kids back this is it...they are the stars not their parents.

lifeoriley said...

I had a convo with my mother yesterday re: Jon. My mother, a sort-of former sheeple said that she used to feel sorry for Jon, but now she feels he's being a jerk. I asked why and she mentioned him being "seen" with "all of these women" and out at bars. I asked her why it's so wrong for Jon to go out and be seen with women if he has been separated for almost a year (last holiday season is reportedly when Kate told him it's over and he was kicked to the garage appt.) and his divorce is about to become final. She had no real answer--except that it's bad press.
She said, "he needs to get a job" and I agreed, but asked, "Where?"
Unemployment in very high in PA--the Reading area is not exactly overflowing with decent-paying employment opportunities for someone like Jon. He can't go crawling back to the state for his old job back, either. He's kind of stuck for now--even if he got a low-paying job for his own self-respect, the press would still be calling him a "loser." That's the reason why I still kinda feel bad for Jon--notwithstanding his ridiculous and immature behavior.
My mother did admit that Kate's talk show probably wouldn't be that good, as Kate isn't very "likeable." My mother had watched the show because she thought the kids were "adorable."

Brummygirl said...

T.T. very good. You beat me to it this morning, I too have an ode.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS – IT’S ALL ABOUT ME
By Kate Gosselin:

I am a contract honourer
I do as I am told
Then T.L.C. will reward me
With platters, made of gold

I do not clean, I do not cook
I do not read the dictionary
Although I have written a book
It did not solely belong to me.

I have myself a bodyguard
To keep for my very own
He even carries my purses
When I am on my pink phone

Oh and yes I have 8 children
They really are a pain
But when I get my brand new show
I will be off again

It was right to film my family
Even though Jon it bugs
It has bought me lots of freebies
A new face and set of jugs!

My new friend Baba Waba
Confirms that I’m a star
That I have the gift of the gaba
She says I will go far.

My mansion is my fortress
From my over zealous fans
Of course I have nannies and cleaners
Cannot soil my French nailed hands

We had a lovely Thanksgiving
With our cardboard family
I stood them in a corner
So they could see all of me

Yes life is good to think on
And I did it all alone
Soon I will be rid of Jon
And can bring Stevie home!!

Merry Christmas to all my adoring Sheeple!!

Glenda said...

When I heard that Tiger Woods was taking an indefinate leave of absence from Golf to work on his marriage I thought of the Gosselins. Not that the two cases have anything in common but at least he's not saying 'I can't quit golf to work on my marriage it's my JOB' Kate must be panicky that she isn't in the headlines any more. Work on your life and your kids and quit complaining the show isn't on anymore.

Amy2 said...

Way off topic, but here goes anyway.

Has anyone heard anything about the child labor investigations? I thought there was one going on in California and another one in Pennyslvania. Then there is the Gloria Alred, Kevin and Jodi trying to put in federal labor law for children in reality shows. How is that going?

Several months back I learned on this blog that the investigations were underway and then nothing. Just curious to see if anyone has information.

Andrea M. said...

One has to wonder WHAT HAPPENED to Katie Irene to create a person so lost in her own egoism that she has completely lost her grasp of connection to the larger world around her.
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Pure speculation based on watching the show

She speaks of being the forgotten middle child. She was a child with a funny eye.

From the early home videos with Jon, she seemed to be a needy "its all about me" person.
Jon fed it and she thrived on it.

She got married to her son of a wealthy doctor and got the staus that came with the well known family

She got her adorable twins and the attention that comes with that

She went back for more multiples.
Who here believes she really wanted just one?
(I would love to know who looked at 7 eggs and decided that fertilization should proceed)

Here i wonder if the consequenses or her action began to trouble her.
She had two young children, she is facing a high risk pregnancy, has to hand care of the twins over to parents/jon, does not know how the family will be supported, are the babies going to be handicapped, she could die..

Goes home , tries to control the helpers invading her house

Gets lots of gift, makes specific demands for items she could never afford and gets them..becuase its all for the kids

Her feeling of entitlement grows
Shops for show, get show.
Fame and cash and attention hits

I could go on...

But im sure at some level she knows what she did to her kids and i bet living with that haunts her everyday.

Tangerine Tanya said...

Brummygirl,

Loved your poem also especially this line...
*************************************
It was right to film my family
Even though Jon it bugs
It has bought me lots of freebies
A new face and a set of jugs!

goawayJandK said...

One has to wonder WHAT HAPPENED to Katie Irene to create a person so lost in her own egoism that she has completely lost her grasp of connection to the larger world around her

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K8 is such a horrible person and parent ( and I use that term very loosely!) , yet Kevin seems like such a nice, loving person. Haven't heard anything about the other sisters.

I've known great people/crappy parents, great parents/crappy children, crappy parents/crappy children and great parents/great children. Would love to know more about her upbringing.

alana said...

Whatever the reason (see excuse) that Yawn-Boy is incapable of securing employment right now:

If he has other excuses for not going back to school and better preparing for work in the 21st century:

I have a great idea! (I'm sure I'll be hit with a barrage of comments like "Well now. I suggested that idea back when blah blah blah...") I think it's important to suggest this as many times as possible to insure Yawn-Boy actually sees it at some point as he walks the streets of N.Y.C., laptop strung over his shoulder, searching for his next paparazzi fix (yes, I know TLC won their injunction, too).

Yawn-Boy: VOLUNTEER. You own an assortment of vehicles that, unlike many of ours', aren't ready to fall apart and get more than ten mpg. You could help deliver food to the elderly; just google Meals On Wheels. You'd get to know people and neighborhoods you'd otherwise never get a chance to visit. Right now there are plenty of community clearinghouses trying to get Christmas necessities delivered to families; you know, things like toilet paper, laundry soap, ingredients for Christmas dinner. According to my morning newspaper, most parents left toys off their lists this year as toilet paper and basic school supplies took precedence. However, I'm sure there are still many Toys for Tots-like programs that could use your, and your cars', help.
Think of volunteering as a way to keep from spending what little money you do have; idle hands and all that. Plus, you'd be seen around town in N.Y. and Pennsylvania and there's nothing to stop stories being written about you; just resist the urge to participate or mug for the camera. There's no shortage of volunteer work - EVER. So come on, Yawn, get crackin'!

Pony said...

Andrea M said, "(I would love to know who looked at 7 eggs and decided that fertilization should proceed)"

I believe that would be Kate. The doctor told her that there were too many follicles and they'd have to wait till the next cycle to continue, but Kate went home and got Jon to do the deed.

I agree with most of what you said with a couple of exceptions. I'm not buying her excuse of being "the forgotten middle child." There is no indication that being a middle child turns a person into a narcissist. The two theories about the causes of narcissism are 1) excessive attention as a child, being given everything one wants on a "golden platter" and 2) being raised by cold, unfeeling parents who may have been abusive. Kate may well have experienced one of the two situations, but being a middle child didn't make her be the way she is. Most middle children are the peacemakers in the family, not the strifecausers.

"But im sure at some level she knows what she did to her kids and i bet living with that haunts her everyday."

I don't agree with this, either. I happen to know a couple of people not unlike Kate, and neither of them do realize what they did to their kids and they aren't haunted at all. They are, however, completely puzzled by the fact that their adult children have very little to do with them outside of duty visits and calls. Since they were "perfect parents," they can't comprehend the distance between them and their families.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Brummy Girl: Ovation!!! I love the creativity, intelligence, and insight possessed by GWoP bloggers!

Thanks, Brummy Girl for a well written and fun read!

Feeling Sorry for the 8 Kids said...

I read an article in this morning's Washington Post about Jenny Sanford. Like Kate Gosselin, Jenny Sanford also had to deal with a husband's very public affair with another woman (remember when he hiked the Appalachian Trial all the way to his mistress' home in Argentina?) and is going through a divorce. However, Jenny Sanford is leagues above Kate Gosselin in many ways:

1. She didn't cry to every single media outlet about her cheating husband.

2. She kept her children out of the public eye.

3. When she has gone out in public, she's generally seen in very nice outfits with no short skirts and hooker heels.

Jenny Sanford has one thing that Kate Gosselin lacks: CLASS! You can read more at:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/11/AR2009121101503.html

Ohio Buckeye said...

@Andrea M: Liked your comments regarding how Kate came to be such a mess.

I, too, am a middle child of 5. But I hope my siblings will hit me in the head with a shovel if I EVER begin treating others the way Kate treats everyone.

Kate's blaming her total insensitivity and egocentric ways on being a middle child does not pass inspection to this middle child.

jibberjabbers said...

For the Moment? said...

So Sugary has the clips up of the day they took the kids to a photo shoot or interview and they were mobbed to the point they had to set up barricades. How frightened everyone looked mostly the adults including Kate. The kids must have been terrified. Maybe Kate could show this clip when she is trying to make her case that it is not harmful for her kids to be on TV. And if ever anyone has to wonder about TLC's motives for getting the kids back this is it...they are the stars not their parents.

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Where was this taken and who were all those adults helping Kate? TLC crew members?

Were the kids being filmed?

sillyrabbit said...

So TLC claims that Jon being in the presence of 'bikini clad' women did not fit their 'wholesome' image. If I recall correctly, TLC featured an episode of Kate Gosselin as a 'bikini clad' woman.

Hates TLC said...

"""So TLC claims that Jon being in the presence of 'bikini clad' women did not fit their 'wholesome' image. """

Have any of you ever tried to watch their new show BBQ Pitmasters? That show is so filthy and the main character curses every other word, I kid you not.

TLC is the Larry Flynt of networks.

For the Moment? said...

Jibberjabbers, I remember reading about this, I think they were in NY going for an interview as a promo for the show, etc. It may have been the same one where Kate was agitated and didn't allow Mady to have water, because that is the only one I have seen anything on though I did not see the actual interview, just the clip of the water thing. But it had to be very frightening for those kids as the adults were clearly very frightened themselves. They had to enlist the aide of people inside the studio to set up the barricades and help get them in. The whole scenario had the potential for getting way out of control.

BH said...

@ tangerine tanya:

{{{{{singing along andclapping}}}}

Perfection!

BH said...

@BrummyGirl:

"a new face and set of jugs!"

{{{Christmas hugs to you Brummy}}}

just what every single mom struggling to pay bills must have, a new face and set of jugs!

For the Moment? said...

Jibberjabbers...I found this article on the "melee."

Kate Gosselin and her brood of 8 kids attended a TLC photoshoot Saturday in New York and while they were leaving, a scuffle broke out between paparazzi photographers and Kate’s security guards.

As Kate Gosselin and her kids left the location of the photo shoot in New York, paparazzi photographers followed them and started getting too close to the kids. They were warned several times to keep their distance but they persisted. While security guards tried to block the paparazzi with umbrellas, folding tables and other objects, Kate and her entourage wisked the kids out of harms way and into their hotel.

There’s no word on whether anyone was injured during the melee, but a witnesses at the scene told People.com that it was a frightening experience and the kids were terrified.

Jon Gosselin, Kate’s estranged husband, was not present when the scuffle occurred.

Allie said...

Kate Gosselin and her brood of 8 kids attended a TLC photoshoot Saturday in New York and while they were leaving, a scuffle broke out between paparazzi photographers and Kate’s security guards.

As Kate Gosselin and her kids left the location of the photo shoot in New York, paparazzi photographers followed them and started getting too close to the kids. They were warned several times to keep their distance but they persisted. While security guards tried to block the paparazzi with umbrellas, folding tables and other objects, Kate and her entourage wisked the kids out of harms way and into their hotel.

There’s no word on whether anyone was injured during the melee, but a witnesses at the scene told People.com that it was a frightening experience and the kids were terrified.

Jon Gosselin, Kate’s estranged husband, was not present when the scuffle occurred.

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Let's not forget that the Gosselins were not hounded like this in public until after Jon started his antics this past spring. No I'm not defending the kids being on TV and I'm not a fan of either Gosselin parent at all. The fact does remain that it was much easier for the family to travel around until Jon's actions piqued the interest of every sleazy media outlet there is.

Old News But Good Lessons said...

I was surfing TV channels and saw a clip of Barbara Walters interviewing Kate for that Fascinating People thing. All I could think of, "it's so over." Who cares about the Gosselin saga anymore? I think the esteemed Ms. Walters was mislead into thinking this would be newsworthy. And, truly, could anyone really believe Kate when she said eight kids were all crying simultaneously when she told them there'd be no more filmimg or film crew? It's really insulting to a viewer's intelligence. I feel awfully sorry for the eight Gosselin children in how they've had to live and what their life must be like now but I can't do anything about it. It's over. I quit watching their reality show a long time ago so that I wouldn't be one more viewer contributing to the (what should be, UNLAWFUL) filming of them. Too little came too late with both Jon and Kate to where I came to believe neither of them; credibility just shot. I learned a lot about reality TV and will never watch another reality show involving children. (If adults want to put themselves in that position, they don't have my sympathy; they get what they chose.) I credit the intelligent and thoughtful mods and posters at GWOP for waking me up and giving me a lot to think about for positive change within myself.

jibberjabbers said...

Remember this? Kate grabbing Alexi's shoulder and squeezing it? Than Alexis in pain, gives Kate a COLD STARE..

Vid

Hippie Chick said...

Tangerine Tanya...very, very good!! Loved your take on The Grinch. They kinda look alike, don't they?

NT said...

That photo shoot happened over the summer. So-sugery has new photos of jon but they are putting up old photos of Kate and the kids.

GoPoshGo said...

Glenda said...
[snipped] Not that the two cases have anything in common but at least he's not saying 'I can't quit golf to work on my marriage it's my JOB.'

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Tiger's vacation from golf is nothing more than a publicity stunt in a desperate effort to repair his image (and slow down the list of sponsors who are jumping the Woods' ship on a daily basis). Someone who has years-long affairs with various women, who only decides he needs to take some time to work on his family AFTER he's CAUGHT is, in my opinion, a douche-bag. If he hadn't been caught, he'd still be playing golf and still be screwing around like the adulterous scum-bag that he apparently is.

True, Kate puts her "career" before her kids, but Tiger put his mistresses before his family. They're both disgusting excuses for parents, and they deserve to swim in the same chum bucket together.

Mikey said...

For the Moment? said...
Jibberjabbers...I found this article on the "melee."
Kate Gosselin and her brood of 8 kids attended a TLC photoshoot Saturday in New York and while they were leaving, a scuffle broke out between paparazzi photographers and Kate’s security guards.
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OH PLEASE!!!!! Im sure there is back entrance that could have been used.

TLC wanted this to happen so main stream media could see how popular the "stars" were. To show how mama kate (sans wandering papa jon) in a good light was trying so hard to protect her brood.

Shame on Kate and TLC.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Silly Rabbit said, "So TLC claims that Jon being in the presence of 'bikini clad' women did not fit their 'wholesome' image. If I recall correctly, TLC featured an episode of Kate Gosselin as a 'bikini clad' woman."

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EXCELLENT point, Rabbit!

RE: the photo shoot melee: We can count on Kate NOT to take responsibility for putting her kids into this situation, but, instead, continue down this path with full knowledge this situation will likely be repeated in the future. Kate will simply blame the evil P people as if she is blameless.

Yes, by all means, Kate, stay on that high road.

OH COME ON said...

Allie said...
Let's not forget that the Gosselins were not hounded like this in public until after Jon started his antics this past spring. No I'm not defending the kids being on TV and I'm not a fan of either Gosselin parent at all. The fact does remain that it was much easier for the family to travel around until Jon's actions piqued the interest of every sleazy media outlet there is.
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That may be so, but, no one forced Kate to do the many tv appearances and magazine interviews she did after his pictures came out.

Remember her "Im hesitant to believe speech..."

Remember her on the View where Whoppi let the viewers now that Kate WANTED to say something about Jon and the nanny/girlfriend.

Noone forced her to have picnics in front of her house everyday in the summer to ensure that the kids were photographed everyday.

TLC/Kate used the opportunity to start rebranding her as the poor, wronged, can-do Kate.

Mom of 2 Boys said...

Kate must be fuming now that nobody cares about her. Tiger is on all of the magazine covers and TLC is most likely rallying around the Duggars and their premature baby, who I hope is being kept away from the cameras while she is in the NICU.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"Silly Rabbit said, "So TLC claims that Jon being in the presence of 'bikini clad' women did not fit their 'wholesome' image. If I recall correctly, TLC featured an episode of Kate Gosselin as a 'bikini clad' woman."
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Jon's attorneys need to whip out this picture and videos, as well as the hooker heels, boobs falling out photos, and really give it to the other side for this hypocrisy. I hope his legal eagle team is reading this!

Pa Mom Knows said...

"I've known great people/crappy parents, great parents/crappy children, crappy parents/crappy children and great parents/great children. Would love to know more about her upbringing."

It wasn't crappy -- she had a "normal" upbringing, nice home, Christian parents, love and respect, good schools -- certainly not deprived either emotionally or financially. I think that somehow she was just the lone maverick in the bunch and had a bad case of the gimmes from the get-go.

ItsComingYouWait said...

Not good in K8's eyes, I am sure, that the DUggars are hogging the spotlight so coveted by Hate, right now. BET ON an "episode" anytime now....you watch. Plus , she has to be jonesing for another tabloid cover..it's been awhile! What good is all that botox if no one can see, anyway??

Just So Disappointing said...

True, Kate puts her "career" before her kids, but Tiger put his mistresses before his family. They're both disgusting excuses for parents, and they deserve to swim in the same chum bucket together.
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Yet again another right-on observation by Posh. You echoed my sentiments exactly, Posh. Bravo!

sandra said...

all she did was change the name

Miss said...

jibberjabbers,

Please don't misunderstand. I don't like anything about Kate but I personally don't see any abuse towards Alexis.

she is evil said...

PA Mom,
By all accounts, including yours, Kate had a nice normal upbringing. Yet whenever she speaks of her childhood, she alludes to it being less than perfect, whining that she never got to travel, that her parents "tried", etc. Why do you think this bitch can't say a nice thing about her parents? It sure sounds like they're nice people, that they don't deserve these backhanded comments from Kate. Do you know what her parents' thoughts are about their daughters actions and decisions? How about Kate's siblings? Do they all get along with the parents? It just confuses me why Kate wouldnt just go ahead and say nice things about her parents, even if they have their differences. The woman is pure poison.

jayley said...

alana, Thanks for the great reminder about volunteering and giving back to the community if you're out of work. Not only does it boost self-confidence but lots of times it helps the self-centered rejoin the real world and get a grip. The entire family needs this.

Katan the Stupid said...

OH COME ON, I couldn't agree more. It seems like Kate was thrilled once Jon was photographed with other women. Suddenly, she was everywhere, "hating" the paparazzi, yet dressing up for them and dragging those pathetic children around with her. She never seemed upset for one second about Jon's alleged infidelty. Rather she saw it as her opportunity to be really famous. Could you imagine Tiger Woods' wife suddenly going to Starbucks and Target daily with her boobs hanging out? What kind of attention she would get? There are a few differences between Elin and Kate. Elin is beautiful, is upset about her marital problems, doesn't use her children to get attention from the paparazzi, and chooses to keep things as private as possible. Kate is a homely, fat assed, fame whore who couldn't care less about demise of her marriage and family.

jayley said...

miss, I think that the point of jibberjabbers vid was to show that Khate thinks it's all right to hurt children to get them to do what she wants. More shocking to me is the fact that she felt it was ok to do that with cameras rolling. What scares me, and what others have alluded to (Julies blog, staff quitting over morals issues) is that things are probably much worse when people aren't around.

It's just my opinion but parents that have to resort to aggression to communicate with their children don't have much communication with, or respect from, their children to begin with.

Rubie said...

You can vote for which Gosselin you'd like to see less of at People.

http://www.people.com/people/package/bestof2009/0,,20319348_20321672,00.html#flashpollsdivanchor

Deborah said...

Re: the photo shoot where the kids and Kate were nearly mauled.

You know, you don't ever hear about that happening with the Duggars or the Roloffs. In fact, the Roloffs often travel by themselves! Through airports! With no visible security! And they even stop and say 'hi' to people!

Hm, could that be because they film their show and that's it??? They don't go on talk show after talk show saying how they want people to stop bugging them?

That one event may have rattled Kate, yes. But basically she LOVES it.

Posted By said...

Pictures of Kate exposing her kids to the lions in NYC.

http://iminpr.blogspot.com/2009/11/why-did-natle-morales-throw-away-her.html

Posted By said...

Let's not forget that the Gosselins were not hounded like this in public until after Jon started his antics this past spring.

I still wonder if TLC set Jon up. How else did that teacher's brother get a receipt for a purse, signed by Steve Neild?

Katan the Stupid said...

After revisiting Kate's Vulcan Death Grip on Alexis in jibberjabbers video, gotta say that the woman hurt the kid and grabbed her violently in anger. We all may have different opinions about what is or isn't abuse, but the fact of the matter is that kid was rubbing her shoulder where she had been grabbed and looked at her mom in disgust. Imagine she was your kid and your spouse had disciplined her in that fashion as a first resort. Would you really not be upset by that? The fact that none of the kids even blinked and Alexis didn't cry in indignation makes me think they're used to this kind of violent physical contact. The woman is unfit.

MomIAm said...

I'm puzzled by all the comments that imply Jon was having affairs like Tiger Woods or Mark Sanford. If the stories are true, Jon was a stay-at-home-dad whose wife made the decision to end the marriage and who told him well over a year ago that their marriage was over. Elin Woods and Jennie Sanford were apparently blindsided by their husband's secret affairs. IMO Elin, Jennie and Jon were thrown under the bus. Jon didn't handle the rejection well. From what is known at this time, it was Kate's decision because they had different goals.

For the Moment? said...

I watched the Alexis (pinch) video and was amazed that (sounded like Natalie) said oh I will have to remember that trick, it worked very well and Kate laughed...the kids have no one looking out for them.

While I was there, I saw the clip of her slapping Joel in the head. It was very disturbing as he was trying to look into the refrigerator and all of the other kids were huddled up there also as if they were hungry, perhaps hoping that Kate would pull something out for them to eat. But it seems that she was getting something for herself. You could tell that she had just woke up and we all know how grouchish she is in the morning.

There is only one thing wrong with Kate-she is just hard down mean and has probably been that way all of her life...even as a poor, pitiful "middle child" and it seems like she is raising her kids to be mean as well because that is what hunger will do to you..it will make you mean.

brennie said...

I think Alana has the right idea. If Jon rehabilitates himself through volunteering, he has a chance at TLC-approved media jobs and looks better when he goes back to court

Dunwoody Mom said...

Now that The Learning Channel has muzzled Jon, Kate Gosselin is so over......The only reason Kate got any attention was due to the daily misbehavior stores that The Learning Channel fed Radaronline. Kate, along, is boring beyound boring - she's a nutcase and everyone but the sheeple see it. Kate's show, if it ever sees the air, will bomb. It's my opinion that the only reason The Learning Channel is going along with this show is to keep Kate on their side and not talking. Kate is not very bright and I'm sure The Learning Channel learned early on which parent they could manipulate the easiest.

Also, if I were Jon, I'd be writing that book exposing The Learning Channel now.

Ohio Buckeye said...

@Katan The Stupid: Well said!!!

Kate considers her biggest loss to be a spouse in her presence to be blamed and criticized and the one who gets her out of bath duty for her kids.

Tiger is an idiot.
Jon is free of his Warden.

muchsmartermom said...

Hellooooo IRS!!!
Those two fools and their inability to even sign a contract that paid those kids a decent amount for all the money they made TLC!!!!
Oviously they were blinded by all the freebies being thrown their way--which leads me to the IRS. There is no way those to paid all the due taxes on those gifts. Someone needs to audit them--now!!!

Can't See Sheep said...

To Brummygirl & Tangerine Tanya, lol! Those are excellent, you two crack me up!

Happy Hanukkah all!

Jon getting a job right now is going to be difficult. Jon sueing for alimony & using some of the money to go back to school could be a good move. I agree that he should also volunteer, it would do him a world of good. Things need to be delivered to people, people need to get to appointments, we know that Jon can at least drive.

As for kate, narcissists are never haunted by anything they do, they don't do anything wrong as far as they're concerned, so what's to be haunted about. It's everyone else that's the problem, not them. I really do wish someone would herd all of them on to a big old island & leave them there.

Richard said...

No More Gosselins

Callie said...

About the time Kate and the children were nearly mauled by the paps. I don't have a link but remember it a shoot for TLC families and the Little Couple,Roloff family and 18 Kids and Counting were there also.Amd Khate and kids were the only ones that had a problem? Hmmm...

Proudgrandma said...

The mob scene happened back in July I believe. Have there been any K8 sightings in the past week? No, I bet she is home fuming at Tiger Woods.

Brummygirl said...

Dunwoody Mom said:
The Learning Channel is going along with this show is to keep Kate on their side and not talking. Kate is not very bright and I'm sure The Learning Channel learned early on which parent they could manipulate the easiest.
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That is my opinion too. It will be really funny if they have had Kate flipping pancakes and other such things, which she must hate, only to find she did it for nothing.
T.L.C. can afford to fund these sessions if it means The Hollow Queen's silence!

Ohio Buckeye said...

Can't See Sheep said, "As for kate, narcissists are never haunted by anything they do, they don't do anything wrong as far as they're concerned, so what's to be haunted about. It's everyone else that's the problem, not them. I really do wish someone would herd all of them on to a big old island & leave them there."

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Sheep, You are SO RIGHT. Narcissists (and sociopaths) NEVER have remorse because they see themselves as blameless and superior. Others who suffer bad outcomes are seen as having done something to bring bad outcomes onto themselves. Narcissists/sociopaths are incapable of empathy.

Narcissists/sociopaths believe they deserve the best because they believe themselves to BE the best.

Trying to explain this to Kate, Queen of the Narcissists (if not sociopaths) would be a waste of breath and energy.

Kate may one day claim an epiphany, but it will be only a manipulation. Her behavior will not change.

She is hopeless.

This Is Just TIRESOME said...

Who knows where this stuff comes from but, in that PEOPLE magazine poll (lots of polls on their online site for year-end and decade-end), it says Kate has reportedly expressed an interest in being in movies. Now, COME ON; talk about LOL. Thing is, she's been "acting" on her reality show for how long now??!! I tell you, this woman has one BIG opinion of herself. Her reality show acting lessons will not serve her in even the B-Movie world. Who does she think would hire her anyway? How embarrassing to be so delusional about your abilities and capabilities that you would actually mention these kinds of things in public and put yourself out there for ridicule. Someone needs to intervene and try to get through to both Jon and Kate that they're two nobodies in the big world and it would be best to be good somebodies for their eight children, not to mention their own selves. Gosselins, GO HOME.

ErinKate said...

Hailey is coming to Philly this week. I will report back if I go to her appearances.But first, let me go back to puking and reading my Bible, TMZ.

Brummygirl said...

This Is Just TIRESOME said...
Who knows where this stuff comes from but, in that PEOPLE magazine poll (lots of polls on their online site for year-end and decade-end), it says Kate has reportedly expressed an interest in being in movies.
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I bet she goes to bed dreaming of that Oscar on her shelf!! It would be funny if not so pathetic.
"..and the winner is......Kate Gosselin for her role in "How to Bilk the Sheeple"....applause from Baby Mama and her five sheep!!"

konhasyoufooled said...

ROL is stating that CPS was at Tiger's house. I don't get it. They are worried about his children because of his cheating but Kate smacks the crap out of her kids, denies them water, etc and nothing is done. How the hell is TLC keeping *everybody* quiet? Makes me wonder if you live nearby and shop where she shops you are made to sign a waiver....Does NOT make any sense.

Also makes me wonder what is really going on in the Tiger Woods house. I feel so bad for all of those kids. They didn't ask for any of this crap. Isn't marriage sacred anymore? I have been married for 5 years just like Tiger and my hubby is home with me when he isn't at work. Makes you wonder why some peeps bother to even get married. I hope all those kids turn out ok but I have serious doubts.

Canadian Mom said...

It is VERY interesting the see the contrast between two famous scorned women...

On one hand, the beautiful Elin, former NANNY herself, retreating from media...

On the other is Kate, hungry for attention and 'needing' to set the record straight...to ANY CAMERA visible....

So thanks Tiger, for forcing your wife to show the world true class...

Canadian Mom said...

And where in the hell is G. Allred??

...waiting!...tapping foot...still waiting!...

Canadian Mom said...

It will be really funny if they have had Kate flipping pancakes and other such things, which she must hate, only to find she did it for nothing.
T.L.C. can afford to fund these sessions if it means The Hollow Queen's silence!
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Oh Brummygirl, what a riot!! I SO hope they are just giving Kate *busywork*...

I can see the PA's winking at Kate while filming her flip pancakes "That's right Kate, you're our girl, you're doing awesome, keep going...", more winking and thumbs up sign...

And Kate lapping it all up just like her hungry children drank all that fresh milk...

Karenb said...

Gloria Allred is busy representing Tiger's various mistresses to garner publicity. Let's not make this disgusting opportunist out to be a savior just because she spent a few minutes ON TV with Jodi and Kevin.

Can't See Sheep said...

Dunwoody Mom said...
The Learning Channel is going along with this show is to keep Kate on their side and not talking.
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I can see them wanting to make sure kate's not a problem as she & Jon with the right lawyer's could probably do some damage to them & they know it. They probably also know that she's a narcissist & if you're ever interested in the lengths narcissists will go to to destroy the other person just google "divorcing a narcissist". Letting her fall on her face on her own will still probably get a backlash from her, because she'll never believe that she was what caused it to fail, but by then TLC will be on better footing to handle her & she may not have the money to get much of a legal team if the IRS ever wakes up & decides to go after someone that deserves it.

The movie star thing with kate is sick, I wonder if there's a Norma Desmond complex in the psychiatric world, there is a Napoleon complex. Maybe kate could be the first person diagnosed with the Norma Desmond complex.

It's painfully obvious that kate ceased being able to make good decisions regarding anyone long ago, never mind any that have to do with her own children. It's so nice that they can be bothered to turn up at Wood's house though. Kate does nasty stuff to her kids in public & they don't even wander by the end of her driveway. There are even incidents with kate on film treating her children badly for crying out loud! Looks like TLC may be spending some of that 180 million per quarter to grease a few palms, not surprising.

Dog Kitchen said...

Brummygirl,

I like your original and very clever ode.

Tangerine Tanya,

I think Dr. Suess wouldn't mind. Maybe he had Kate in mind all along!

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

HOLIDASH.com reports that Gosselin kids have ruined Christmas at their school by announcing to classmates that there is no Santa.

Shows me lack of parenting. Khate didn't have enough sense to tell the tups to keep the news to themselves.

tuesday said...

can't see sheep posted "It's painfully obvious that kate ceased being able to make good decisions regarding anyone long ago..."

It doesn't get much simpler than that, does it?


Tangerine, "cuddly as a cactus and charming as an eel", THATS our Katie!

tuesday said...

Ohio Buckeye, Gosselin Free? that's my hope also.

not K8's bestest friend said...

I was just on a website reading about the new Sex and the City movie. There was a poll asking who you would like to spend Christmas with. Ellen won with 36% (20,000 votes) and Kate came in last with 6% (3,000 votes). The other choices were Jennifer Aniston, Taylor Swift, and Brangelina. I rolled my eyes when I saw Kate on the poll, but it did warm my heart to see she came in last.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"HOLIDASH.com reports that Gosselin kids have ruined Christmas at their school by announcing to classmates that there is no Santa."

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This is absolutely not true.

marie said...

RE SANTA
Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...
Shows me lack of parenting. Khate didn't have enough sense to tell the tups to keep the news to themselves.

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Why? every other aspect ( rpivate or otherwise) of their life is broadcast on tv....

Can't See Sheep said...

marie said...
Why? every other aspect ( rpivate or otherwise) of their life is broadcast on tv....
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Exactly these kids aren't going to know what to keep secret unless mommy speaks very threateningly to them "not to tell"

Dog Kitchen said...
Tangerine Tanya, I think Dr. Suess wouldn't mind. Maybe he had Kate in mind all along!
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Unfortunately there's not likely to be any happy ending to the one with kate. She wouldn't return the things to the Who's unless she knew she'd be getting something even bigger out of it. Cindy Lou Who certainly wouldn't get the glass of water she asked for, she'd get tossed on the sleigh & taken to be exploited along with all the other children, are you kidding, those blonde curls & big blue eyes, that's MONEY in the bank, dollar signs would spin so hard in kate's eyes she'd have to hit the side of her head to make them stop.

Brummygirl said...
It will be really funny if they have had Kate flipping pancakes and other such things, which she must hate, only to find she did it for nothing.
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That would be a gas! Now if they could only get her over to the neighbours, fake that they power is out & get her to help milk the cows of that liquid gold by hand. Maybe muck them out too. They should go around & see what things they can get her to do with the promise that it's all for the new show. Just tell her one of the shows is a "field to the table" episode. Of take her to the house of a perfectionist with a huge library & make her dust behind all the books. Unfortunately that one is harder for me to link in with the restaurant theme, but I'm sure there's a way.

Tangerine Tanya said...

Christmas Miracle

Katie Grinch will stand there with her grinch feet ice cold in the snow and say.......

Maybe happiness doesn't come from T.L.C. Exploiting my children and having their private moments filmed on T.V.

What happened next was a miracle they say. Katie Grinch's small dark heart grew three sizes that day.

NO MORE filming,photo shoot not one little lie.
No more nannies to soothe my babies when they cry.

I'll give back all the money to those sweet gullible church people.
I'll wear a tee shirt that says
I don't want or need you any more you silly SHEEPLE!

I'll be loving and warm to ALL of my family and friends. I will tell them that I am sorry and that I want to make amends.

To my precious multiple blessings of eight. I will try to be a more loving and attentive mother. I just pray that it isn't to late.

I'll invite everyone over for a warm scrumptious feast. I'll be warm,kind and gentle. Remember after all...I was a horrible beast.

No more grapes,crackers or cheese served on a paper plate. I have got to give real food to my little blessings of eight.

I will serve a huge roast beef and a HEAPING SERVING of LOVE on the finest GOLD PLATTERS......After all it's not about me......It's LOVE THAT MATTERS!!!


*Peace*

Canadian Mom said...

Those kids are told to keep MANY secrets...and apparantly did...

eg) Korea trip

Canadian Mom said...

Gloria Alred a saviour??!!

I NEVER said that...Alred is a brash, loud-mouthed bully...

My HOPE is that Kevin and Jodi will continue to help those kids...

And a loud-mouth bully is what is needed to deal with their parents...

dustilies said...

Can't See Sheep said . .

Or take her to the house of a perfectionist with a huge library & make her dust behind all the books. Unfortunately that one is harder for me to link in with the restaurant theme, but I'm sure there's a way.

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Cookbooks--dusting Cookbooks! I try not to leave my neat-freak, now-elderly mom alone in my house when she comes to visit, but one morning when I had to work and the kids were at school, she decided to address my pantry moth problem by , among other means, wiping down the pages and flour dust from between the paqes of my (many dozens of) cookbooks with white vinegar.

Kate, should, by her own self-promotion as a g/vermaphobe, find this an exciting activity and I'm sure TLC could boost the drama to edge-of-the-seat levels. *Eye Roll*

PS: Only moth traps work, for those also afflicted--and, alas, don't buy grains or dried fruit in bulk--often have eggs in them.

Brummygirl said...

@ Can't See Sheep:
Between us, we could come up with some really awful things for Kate to do!! :)

T.T. Kudos on your latest poem!! :)

goawayfools said...

Kate Gosselin does resemble the Grinch, with her pinhead, the weird hairdo, pulled tight eyes and cold, cold heart. However, the Dr Suess character that fits Kate to a tee is Yertle the Turtle. It's eerie how perfectly the story mirrors Katan's, right down to describing how Yertle sits atop 9 turtles in the beginning stages of his rise to power.

Jane in California said...

I was just on a website reading about the new Sex and the City movie. There was a poll asking who you would like to spend Christmas with. Ellen won with 36% (20,000 votes) and Kate came in last with 6% (3,000 votes). The other choices were Jennifer Aniston, Taylor Swift, and Brangelina. I rolled my eyes when I saw Kate on the poll, but it did warm my heart to see she came in last.
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I bet BM placed at least half of those votes herself, and TLC minions did the rest.

Momof2 said...

Pa Mom Knows said...

"HOLIDASH.com reports that Gosselin kids have ruined Christmas at their school by announcing to classmates that there is no Santa."

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This is absolutely not true.

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Absolutely huh? Care to share?

For the Moment? said...

I don't think the kids ever believed in Santa....because they never had a Santa that I can remember.

What fun it used to be to slip around in the night, whispering, drinking hot chocolate and eating all the cookies for Santa and have to make more...putting things together, dropping things and freezing in place and then such satisfaction when you see their faces and know that you actually pulled it off. Not only did the kids miss out but the parents also.

taraxx413 said...

Canadian Mom said...
It is VERY interesting the see the contrast between two famous scorned women...

On one hand, the beautiful Elin, former NANNY herself, retreating from media...

On the other is Kate, hungry for attention and 'needing' to set the record straight...to ANY CAMERA visible....

So thanks Tiger, for forcing your wife to show the world true class...
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I can also see the contrast between Jon and Tiger - on one hand, Jon was kicked to the curb, then decided to go out and sleep with everything that moved, and that made him a villian, but here is Tiger, playing like he's happily married, but out sleeping with everything that moves, and the media is almost feeling sorry for him! I haven't yet heard anyone condemn him the way Jon was so publicly and completely condemned! Wow, talk about a media bias!

abbie said...

Just saw a clip somewhere online yesterday of Kate in the midst of an interview with (??) surrounded by her brood of kids....and she stops a second to (apparently painfully) squeeze the arm of one of the tup girls who was talking or not 'sitting at attention'. People commented on how awful it was she did that (I agree) but I don't know why anyone was surprised, "the arm" was fair game for pulling poor little Hannah out of the van- remember????? I betcha Kate smacks those kids around. That wooden spoon gets a regular workout IMO. IMO also kids who aren't accustomed to being smacked pinched squeezed poked etc by their parents will cry when its done, out of pain or surprise or whatever. How come that child didn't cry during that interview? She rubbed her arm a bit like it hurt but no tears....maybe shes used to the silent pinches and squeezes from her mom? Just sayin'.

Karenb said...

Canadian Mom said...
Gloria Alred a saviour??!!

I NEVER said that...Alred is a brash, loud-mouthed bully...

My HOPE is that Kevin and Jodi will continue to help those kids...

And a loud-mouth bully is what is needed to deal with their parents...
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I have to disagree. Loud mouth bullies aren't taken seriously. This is a serious legal issue and not tabloid fodder. If children in reality shows are given rights and protections it will be a precedent. That type of legal work requires someone who is thoughtful, intelligent, and has earned the respect of colleagues in the judicial system.

Even so, it will probably be years before this comes to fruition. Reality shows haven't been around long enough for the children on them to grow up and present a solid cause and effect. As long as networks like TLC can keep the hours of production down, don't interfere with school, and don't put children in harm (the way Kid Nation did) it's unlikely they can be held accountable.

Money made from TLC type reality shows has always been considered family income since the entire family is featured on the show. The parents as adults have to be trusted to do what is right by their kids. Until another Gary Coleman grows up and takes their parents to court I'm note sure there is much that can be done.

Vanessa said...

It's true dustilies! Someone who is an organizational guru would just be tickled pink with ANY type of project like that. My friend actually volunteers doing this. She gets all giddy when it's a real mess she's stepping into. Khate on the other hand moans and groans EVEN when she has a professional team ACTUALLY doing all the real DIRTY work.

Sidney said...

It is unbelievable that TLC would dare present themselves in such a evil way as to sue Jon Gosselin. Why would they sully their reputation in such a way? It doesn't make good PR.

Anna said...

It is unbelievable that TLC would dare present themselves in such a evil way as to sue Jon Gosselin. Why would they sully their reputation in such a way? It doesn't make good PR.

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Is it that bad a PR move? I haven't heard TLC's overall ratings are down. The general impression I get from talking to people that have only paid attention to the Gosselins since they became tabloid fodder is "way to go TLC, they finally got Jon to shut up. Now if they can get Kate to do the same, we can all forget about both of them."

I think it will be worse PR for TLC to bring Kate back on TV than it is for them to sue Jon for breach of contract.

jibberjabbers said...

taraxx413 said...

I can also see the contrast between Jon and Tiger - on one hand, Jon was kicked to the curb, then decided to go out and sleep with everything that moved, and that made him a villian, but here is Tiger, playing like he's happily married, but out sleeping with everything that moves, and the media is almost feeling sorry for him! I haven't yet heard anyone condemn him the way Jon was so publicly and completely condemned! Wow, talk about a media bias!

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But the thing is, Jon didn't sleep with any of those women.. Only Hailey.

So he got a few pictures taken at a club. So what?

Jackiepaper said...

Gosselin saga to continue in 2010?
This whole contract deal of the Gosselins with TLC should be a cautionary tale to all the wannabes out there. Not only is peddling your children's childhood and privacy reprehensable, if you don't have a really good lawyer to represent you, you are probably signing your lives away. Many have noted that the Gosselins probably don't receive payment for residuals like reruns and dvd sales. If this is true, another example of the parents ignorant grab for quick bucks. Z's article states re the Gosselins contract:
"The pact was so restrictive it didn't even allow him to photograph his own children without TLC's permission."
One hopes that the Hayes family and all others that follow aren't entrapped with such a large case of the gimmmies. Best case scenario: love your family, your children and your privacy. Don't use your children as fashion accessories and don't make your living playing out your movie star fantasies using your family as the cast of extras.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"I haven't yet heard anyone condemn him the way Jon was so publicly and completely condemned! Wow, talk about a media bias!"

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I have -- several times on talk shows, news shows, etc...one gal blasted him unmercifully. Check out the latest tabloids and other printed news media. They are not kind to him!

Canadian Mom said...

Tangerine Tanya...

you are GOOD!

Jen said...

Jon said in an interview that the kids know there is no Santa Claus and that his kids are the ones telling the other kids at school that fact too. So I'm not sure where the "absolutely not true" comes from, but Jon said it in a couch interview on one of the episodes if I remember correctly.

Lower Heidelberg Neighbor said...

To lifeoriley:

Re your comment:the Reading area is not exactly overflowing with decent-paying employment opportunities for someone like Jon.

Actually you are wrong there. Jon was in tech and our area has a much more stable employment picture than many other areas of Pa or the rest of the country. Home values have also held very nicely.

As an aside...the whole paparazzi frenzy has really died down in our neighborhood as has the random and very slow drive-by's by total strangers....kind of refreshing.

Lower Heidelberg Neighbor said...

Pa Mom Knows said...
"HOLIDASH.com reports that Gosselin kids have ruined Christmas at their school by announcing to classmates that there is no Santa."

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This is absolutely not true.

I have got to side with Pa mom knows on this one...I have a lot of friends who attend school with the Gosselin kids and they would have been loudly furious if this were true. I would have heard about it before I read it online...however just in case I will make a few phone calls and check....

GoPoshGo said...

konhasyoufooled said...
ROL is stating that CPS was at Tiger's house. I don't get it. They are worried about his children because of his cheating but Kate smacks the crap out of her kids, denies them water, etc and nothing is done.

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CPS is required to do an in-home visit/investigation when domestic violence is suspected, and children reside in the home. I guess the "she trashed the rear windows of the car with a golf club in order to rescue Tiger" excuse didn't fly with the authorities. I highly doubt the Woods kids are in grave physical danger, but I pity them for the pitiful excuse of a father they have as a role model. Hopefully Elin will divorce that loser and Tiger will agree to her moving the kids to Sweden -- away from him and the media bloodsuckers that no doubt will continue to hound them.

Bubbles said...

The Gosselin kids are not the first, nor will they be the last, to tell other kids Santa doesn't exist. My 5 & 6 yr old daughters are hearing it at school, too. When they asked me, I asked them if they believe Santa is real. They both answered yes, so I went with it and told them that Santa doesn't bring presents to kids who don't believe in him, so that must be why they say he doesn't exist.

I have to admit though, with that many kids, I might have chosen not to go the Santa route, either!

Alicia said...

Kate will be on Leno this Friday night. Anybody know if it's a rerun?

REDALERT said...

Jackiepaper said...
Z's article states re the Gosselins contract:
"The pact was so restrictive it didn't even allow him to photograph his own children without TLC's permission."


Huh? And no alarms went off in J and K's head at this point.

Jane in California said...

or the Moment? said...

I don't think the kids ever believed in Santa....because they never had a Santa that I can remember.

What fun it used to be to slip around in the night, whispering, drinking hot chocolate and eating all the cookies for Santa and have to make more...putting things together, dropping things and freezing in place and then such satisfaction when you see their faces and know that you actually pulled it off. Not only did the kids miss out but the parents also.
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Wow, so very true. My parents did the same. Every Christmas Eve, we were told Santa won't come until you're sound asleep! Oh the excitement of preparing a plate of cookies and a cup of coffee for Santa, along with a little note. We would leave them by the fireplace.

Then off to bed, hardly able to contain our excitement that Christmas was almost here! And never once did we awaken when "Santa" stole into our rooms in the night to leave our stockings at the foot of our beds. (Clever mom & dad, hoping to get at least 15 more minutes of sleep on Christmas morning while we explored the goodies in our stockings!)

Then we would run to our parents' bedroom and show them what Santa left us. Oohs and aaahs! from our parents at each little trinket.

And then downstairs to see that Santa had taken a big bite out of our cookie and drank some of the coffee, and left us a thank you note!

Those are lifetime memories and as you pointed out - equally fun for both parents and children. Such a shame for the Gosselin kids.

Tammy said...

Alicia said...
Kate will be on Leno this Friday night. Anybody know if it's a rerun?

It looks like it's a new show. I'm not familiar with the Leno show but on our guide it says,"former reality star Kate Gosselin with 10@10. Not sure what 10@10 is??

proudgrandma said...

Santa was always so important in our family. He still is for our Grandchildren. We never lied to our kids, but we kept the spirit. Our kids have thanked us for doing it and for keeping the dream alive.
Now I work in a spacial care home for seniors with dementia and who require assisted living. They are wonderful. They are my children. I never talk down to them and I treat them as adults and with respect.

However two evenings ago when I was on duty, one old lady asked me when Santa would arrive. I was so surprised. I thought about it all evening and tonight I am sitting here making stockings for each resident, each with their names on them and our staff have all promised to donate gifts. We are puting soft tactile items in, with bells and books and some candies and I have phoned families to see what they can provide if they wish to be involved.
I work Christmas Eve and Christmas Evening. On Christmas Eve, my co workers and I will tip toe into each room and stuff those stockings.
I am not telling you this to get a pat on the back. I want to tell you this as I think Kate as a nurse would never do anything like that. She has no soul. Everyone needs to believe in Santa Clause at some stage in their lives. My heart goes out to the Gosseling kids. I watched them open gifts before and it was not a happy event. Kate start thinking of someone other than yourself, think of your kids. Please.

anotherthing... said...

abbie said...

"...kids who aren't accustomed to being smacked pinched squeezed poked etc by their parents will cry when its done, out of pain or surprise or whatever. How come that child didn't cry during that interview? She rubbed her arm a bit like it hurt but no tears....maybe shes used to the silent pinches and squeezes from her mom? Just sayin'."

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VERY thought prevoking point, abbie. I had not really thought about that perspective. But I do think that you are very very correct.

consider this said...

So why was Kate allowed to take photos of the kids? Why was Kate allowed to make so many outside appearances? They stop Jon, and allow Kate? Kate gets to make outside deals, but Jon doesn't?

TLC's actions with the Gosselins show a clear bias against Mr. Gosselin and a clear effort to lay the blame for the divorce on his shoulders. An effort to elevate Kate while harming Jon.

That doesn't sound very American to me!

Just because a person signs a document saying they will be the property of another entity; does not make it legal or moral. Slavery was outlawed in this nation, over one hundred forty years ago! Civil rights can not be negotiated away.

Just because one judge thinks these actions are okay, doesn't make them so. Judges agreed with the Jim Crow laws too!

The right to Liberty and to pursue happiness is constitutionally protected. The TLC contract took away Gosselin's liberty and his right to pursue a livlihood and happiness according to the dictates of his own conscience.

The judge has impinged these rights.

Fight Jon. Fight!

If indeed, the story told by the former cook, that Kate was favored because of a romantic relationship with a network executive is true; and this executive went on to burden Jon while giving Kate wide freedoms to make outside business deals; Jon MUST fight this all the way to the supreme court!

I believe that "alienation of affection" is still against the law in some states.

Also, I would like to see some civil rights lawyers to take a look at this, as it doesn't look good that the network allows the WHITE girl wide freedom to make outside appearances, and business deals, AND take photos of her children; while the MINORITY is bound and chained to an unconstitutional contract forbidding him the ability to make money, or even take photographs of his own children!

konGOaway said...

Kate is doing a 10@10 segment on the Jay Leno show on Friday. That would be a new segment done remotely and where he asks her 10 questions. Jays ratings have dropped off significantly so maybe a few letters might get him to actually book real stars. Hopefully she will be at home and they will show the 12 foot tree she put in their home for the holiday. After all she isn't working and can't affort milk. Probably will have footage of her dragging the tree from the back of their property. Cut it down herself - she is a single parent you know - with 8 children.

Canadian Mom said...

to proudgrandma...

As one (former)senior care facility RN to another...

I raise my glass of eggnog to you...*clink*

Happy Holidays proudgrandma!

Starz22 said...

Jon are you watching? You seem to have been pushed in to nothing...DONT believe it..Lay low for now...Dont speak for anyone.Sure you might be lonely...but you do have 8 kids wanting to be with you...I hope you know the only hope you have are FOR your kids...Stand strong and dont let tlc tape the kids..You will win if you can hold out...
If ET or Larry King asks you to talk run it by tlc...Take any interview you are offered BUT run it by TLC 1st..If you can show the judge that you were offered "work" but had to refuse b/c tlc wouldnt give permission...
Show the judge that Kate could appear on countless shows...BUT you cant...
tlc wants to show that you breeched the contract...show the Judge that you LIKE KATE...was trying to make money for the kids..

Can't See Sheep said...
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Momof3kidsand3dogs said...

No Santa in the Gosselin home. How sad. My husband almost cried when my oldest stopped believing. She was almost 11. I think she knew, but wanted to keep up the charade. Both my girls kept Santa alive for their youngest bother until he, too, stopped believing. The spirit of Santa still lives on in our home. Our oldest is 17, then 15 and 11. The magic (as well as the true meaning) of Christmas still envelopes our home.
I think the Gosselin kids never had a Santa Clause, because (early on) Kate was just too lazy to create one. After all, it takes "work." Finding time to shop when the kids are little, buying that one special gift, hiding the gifts, waiting until Christmas Eve to put everything out and put stuff together. Going to bed @2 and waking up at @5. It is exhausting, but they are memories I will cherish forever. And no, my kids didn't get everything they wanted for Christmas. We couldn't afford it. In later years, what would have been the point of Santa in the Gosselin home. They received everything they wanted on a daily basis. No need to wait for Christmas and hope that Santa would bring that "one special gift". These are memories I will cherish forever. No, my kids haven't been to Hawaii, or skiing in Utah yet, but (if they want to) they can do all these things when they grow up. However, they can never get back their childhoods and the anticipation and memories of Christmas day.

grannyoftwo said...

ROL is stating that CPS was at Tiger's house.


The reason they were at Tiger's house was because a doctor decided that Tiger's injuries were not caused by a car accident and were reported to them. They have to, by law, do an in home visit to make sure everyone is okay. They did not, however, get to speak with Tiger or Elin, so they will either have to go again or it will be brushed under the rug. I don't think anything has ever been reported about the Gosselins having any domestic troubles including physical contact in front of the children, that is the key to a visit. I guess video of Kate mishandling her children is not enough. Someone has to file a complaint or report them.

For the Moment? said...

The advertisers must have finally told TLC to have Kate cool it with the hooker look. She has definitely toned it down (may be seasonal though). I hope Heller brings up the show featuring bikini clad Kate when this "surrounded by bikini clad women" event is addressed in the actual trial.

For the Moment? said...

When my child got old enough to start questioning Santa due to his insight into pure physics (in that it would be impossible) one of his fabulous teachers explained to him that Santa is the "giving spirit" that lives in your heart and will always be with you if you have a giving nature. He understood and accepted that explanation and physics went out the window.

For the Moment? said...

I am glad that TLC is letting Kate do 10@10 on Jay Leno. Heller can use that to show bias against his cient along w/ the other skit that she did (mean mommy) which was not exactly family friendly fodder, either. I would think that both were paying gigs as she was/is not promoting anything in that forum. Jay is desperate for ratings as the networks know it is people who think Kate is a monster along with her diminishing flock of sheeple that will tune in to watch her make a mockery of herself.

Heller take note. Don't be like the others and accept what TLC says in blind faith. Everything in their statement can be counterbalanced.

Also please bring up the fact that it is Kate who kicked Jon to the curb for no apparent reason long before he was ever seen out and about and he did not start paying gigs until he was denied access to the money that Kate was throwing away on plastic surgery, among other extravagant things.

Just Ignore Her said...

"Kate is doing a 10@10 segment on the Jay Leno show on Friday. That would be a new segment done remotely and where he asks her 10 questions. Jays ratings have dropped off significantly so maybe a few letters might get him to actually book real stars."

I wouldn't suggest writing letters to anybody about Kate - good or bad. I read in a couple of places that it was the hundreds of letters protesting (and subsequently defending) her appearace on The View that made them realize how much impact she has. Negative publicity is apparently as important as postiive, it just shows that people are interested.

Best thing to do is to stop writing letters, stop commenting in every article about her, and the media will realize that nobody is interested any more.

cheryl said...

Thanks to you ProudGrandma for providing some cheer to your senior citizens. As a senior myself living in an independent
senior apartment - it is refreshing to read of those who care. I too, try to do something for those who have few family members that come by. My own family is scattered but still feel blesses to have others who share.
Bless you.

N. E. Psychologist said...

PAMom said

HOLIDASH.com reports that Gosselin kids have ruined Christmas at their school by announcing to classmates that there is no Santa."
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This is absolutely not true.

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As far as I’m concerned it doesn’t matter whether or not it is true. The media are attacking FIVE YEAR OLD CHILDREN.
I am so mad that I am spitting nails.

Believes in Santa Always said...

Proudgrandma: you ROCK !

I hope and pray that someday the Gosselin children have someone like you in their lives !

Yolanda said...

consider this said...
....If indeed, the story told by the former cook, that Kate was favored because of a romantic relationship with a network executive is true;..."

What story told by a former cook? Did I miss something? Where is this story?

Natalie and Abigail said...

With Christmas just around the corner, I think we should stop this "there is no Santa" nonsense. Santa is going to get really mad.

I believe in Santa. Presents for me - coal for all of you!

:-)

Anne said...

The paparazzi stories have suddenly dried up now that Jon isn't allowed to make money from outside sources. Kind of makes me believe Jon was the one feeding the paparazzi tips for cash.

I'm not quite sure why TLC would want to do this. The more Jon is out there doing public stuff, it keeps the Gosselin name in the forefront of people's minds and continues to work their angle to paint Jon as the douche and Kate as the saint.

Their current tactic looks like it may dry up Kate interest, along with Jon, killing their future show. Even if Jon caves and lets the kids back on TV, who really wants to watch kids that are becoming spoiled and bratty (through no fault of their own).

JMHO.

For the Moment? said...

I saw the pics of Kate spanking Leah and the next shot was of a policeman at the home and she had on the same dress as when she was spanking Leah and did not have a happy look. The story was that she called the cops to the paps but I wonder if it might not have been the other way around. Just seems somewhat of a coincidence that she may have "indignated" (Kate speakish) her way out of, i.e. her little I discipline my children as I see fit speech.

Cheetah said...

I remember an interview with Jon a year or two ago where he said that Mady and Cara had told their classmates that there was no Santa, and had even tried to prove it using Google. I wonder if this interview is what is being referred to, and that it is not the tups who have spilled the beans about Santa.

Vanessa said...

Just wanted to bring up "the kids miss the crew so much they sobbed"
Do you all remember the vow renewal episode when she said "the kids miss the hotel staff sooo much"? Has she EVER said they miss Aunt Jodi, Grandma (oops, I mean their dad's mother), Gramma/Grampa, cousins, Beth, Talia...NO, they miss the STRANGERS in their lives? And Khate PROUDLY states this? Because they miss them, then having them filmed is NOT wrong? Poor Alexis at their 5th B-day party says to Jon, "I don't like when you're gone" Why don't they put the camera in front of those kids just one more time and ask THEM who they miss or WHAT they miss?

Niki said...

The tups are only five years old and already have stopped believing in Santa? Wow, how incredibly sad. I believed in him until I was like nine! I wonder if Khate even lets them watch all the Christmas specials designed for children their age (ya' know, Rudolph, Frosty, The Grinch - Lol at Tangerine Tanya's Katie Grinch poem, btw, etc). For a five year old, Christmas is meant to be a magical time, but I bet for the Gosselins its nothing special at all.

PA Woman said...

Just Ignore Her said...
I wouldn't suggest writing letters to anybody about Kate - good or bad. I read in a couple of places that it was the hundreds of letters protesting (and subsequently defending) her appearace on The View that made them realize how much impact she has. Negative publicity is apparently as important as postiive, it just shows that people are interested.

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Hmmmm, so B Walters thinks Kate will be huge because she is disliked so much? I guess controversy brings in the ratings.

Lydia said...

I hope Heller brings up the show featuring bikini clad Kate when this "surrounded by bikini clad women" event is addressed in the actual trial.

I'm suspicious about Heller. Nothing that could have been brought up to defend Jon and show that TLC breached the contract first, was ever mentioned.

N.E. Psychologist said...

The Licentious Channel has not only kept the Gosselin site active but revised it to include new clips. Out of morbid curiosity I watched “GUM.”
Completely sanitized – what a surprise.

Has anyone else heard that Herself will be on Jay Leno on Friday? The Licentious Channel is planning something…….

PA Woman said...

Lydia said...
I hope Heller brings up the show featuring bikini clad Kate when this "surrounded by bikini clad women" event is addressed in the actual trial.

I'm suspicious about Heller. Nothing that could have been brought up to defend Jon and show that TLC breached the contract first, was ever mentioned.

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Heller is a poor choice for an attorney. He only has his own interest at heart. But since he isn't licensed in Md. someone else is representing Jon, while Heller sits in the audience. I wonder if this attorney(s) is any better or just following Hellers lead. Haven't seen a name anywhere.

For the Moment? said...

Didn't Kate insist of naming one of the dogs after someone (bodyguard?) on the staff in Hawaii? Hmmmm....Shoka?....she said he was this big gentle body guard or something to that effect.

For the Moment? said...

N.E. Psychologist said...

How in the world could they sanitize gumgate...I may have to take a look though I hate to give them the hits.

readerlady said...

Re the Gosselin kids and Santa - Didn't Khate or Jon say in one of th early shows that their religion frowns on Santa (as well as Halloween and the Easter Bunny) so they taught their kids that there was no Santa? ITA that it is sad. There are so many ways to teach children about "Santa" without making the holiday something other than the celebration of the birth of Our Lord. "The Spirit of Giving", as one commenter said, or "the spirit of love". I feel sorry for the kids who don't have some magic in their lives. They probably aren't allowed "The Wizard of Oz", or Harry Potter, "Alice In Wonderland" or "Peter Pan" either.

AuntieB said...

If Kate told the children I suspect it was jealous of the bearded one. One of my sisters hated letting Santa take all the credit for the gifts she bought so she would get one or two from Santa and the rest from her and the husband. Not sure Kate could even give Santa the benefit of one gift.

Gosselin Kids all the way said...

I think my brains froze when I read this article because I couldn't believe anyone can be so obtuse. Anyways, I encourage that you read for yourselves and decide for yourself if the comparison is accurate.

http://www.examiner.com/x-30363-Canada-Celebrity-Examiner~y2009m12d14-Kate-Gosselin--Elin-Nordegren--strong-woman-who-create-loving-homes-despite-wayward-husbands

trustme said...

The sextuplets told their preK class LAST YEAR that Santa wasn't real. They cited Mady and Cara as their source.

Jon thought it was funny. I told my child they don't believe because they were probably naughty and santa didn't bring them presents.

ShutUpKate said...

Fox411 is reporting that Jon is already broke. Well that didn't take long now, did it. Sigh. So sad. So very, very sad for the kids. :O(

AP

It sounds like money is tight for former reality dad Jon Gosselin.

Last week, TLC was granted a preliminary injunction that forced Jon to stop making public appearances. Now a source close to Gosselin tells Fox411.com that the decision was a serious blow to the livelihood of the former “Jon and Kate Plus 8” star.

"Jon's in pretty serious financial trouble because his plan for making money was shut down in court,” the insider said. “He has warned his lawyers that he can't pay them and if he doesn't succeed against TLC, he will have no funds. He's even gone so far as to say that if they want to be paid, they will have to sue him."

Those lawyers are part of a father/son team that was introduced to Gosselin by Michael Lohan, says the insider.

"Mark and Mike Heller were brought in because Michael Lohan was involved, and he convinced them to join Jon's team early on in the summer,” the source said. “Lohan wanted to latch onto Jon and involved many people he knew. He convinced them Jon was going to have a successful career after the show.”

Mike Heller is the CEO of Talent Resources, which manages Jon Gosselin, and Mark Heller is Jon Gosselin’s New York lawyer.

But it wasn’t just Michael Lohan, currently having trouble himself, fueling the enthusiasm around the TV dad. Gosselin also led his lawyers to believe that he had money in his various accounts, said the source.

Now Gosselin's bills are stacking up and he needs to get a legitimate job, but the insider says he is making no effort to get one.

"It's a good thing Kate Gosselin has been put in charge of the family funds that provide for the couple's eight children," the insider says. "She is the responsible parent."

Reps for the Hellers deny any problems with Gosselin.

“Jon Gosselin’s New York lawyer has the highest regard for Jon Gosselin and will continue to work for Jon for as long as he requires their services," the rep said in a written statement to Fox411.com "The Hellers have no concern relevant to being paid by Jon for their services and see no circumstances under which they would ever sue Jon."

“This past year, Jon Gosselin was the most photographed man in America and appeared in more magazines than any other reality TV star," the statement continues. "Wherever he goes, there is an outpouring of love for him from his fans. And there is no doubt that he has a bright and shining career ahead of him.”

my9cats said...

readerlady said...
SHORTENED..
I feel sorry for the kids who don't have some magic in their lives. They probably aren't allowed "The Wizard of Oz", or Harry Potter, "Alice In Wonderland" or "Peter Pan" either.

ITA. Instead they are forced to live the realest of the real life.
AKA Life with Ham and Spam.
Poor babies.

jibberjabbers said...

ShutUpKate said...

Fox411 is reporting that Jon is already broke. Well that didn't take long now, did it. Sigh. So sad. So very, very sad for the kids. :O(

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Article sounds very bias or even the "insider"..

They claim TLC and the Court put a stop to Jon and his "media" appearances.. Then slams him for not having money and saying Kate is the more "responsible" parent.

LOL.

What Jon can Jon get at the moment? Who is willing to hire him after all the accusation of embezzling money, hacking bank accounts, etc etc...

Whoever the "insider" is (Kate Gosselin???) is obviously feeding FOX411 these slander against Jon.

I bet the "insdier" feeding Fox411 the 411, is no other than a TLC rep or Kate Gosselin herself.

I also bet money that Kate will be on the Jay Leno show to talk more smack of Jon being broke an a bum.

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Jon, the best thing you can do right now is SUE Kate for spousal support and child support. After all, Kate is the responsible one. And hey, time to get paid.

Forget the media, forget the TV. Just live off of Kate an her successful television career with TLC.

Brummygirl said...

The thing which really gets to me is thast no one out of all the people who despise Kate has actually stood toe to toe with her and told her just how obnoxious she is!!
Not that she would believe it of course, but it is so irritating to see her get off scott free in all this.

Can't See Sheep said...

http://www.examiner.com/x-30363-Canada-Celebrity-Examiner~y2009m12d14-Kate-Gosselin--Elin-Nordegren--strong-woman-who-create-loving-homes-despite-wayward-husbands
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That's just disgusting. There's no comparison between Elin & kate! "Women are without a doubt the keepers of home." I just about fell over when I read that, how can that be in the same article as kate? She's the one who destroyed her own marriage & is doing her best to get everyone to pity her for something she did. And the comments, oh boy the comments, the sheeple, all the maturity of 3 year olds. It'd be nice if they all grew up & realized simple concepts such as money is not happiness, money does not solve everything. The number of gold diggers out there is alarming. Of all the people to compare Elin to, kate is not appropriate, just so very wrong.

Canadian Mom said...

Both Jon & Kate are heading to Hell to have a Loooong talk with Hades...

Each will be travelling there in a finely made handbasket crafted by the little hands of their lovely children....

Midnight Serenade said...

"The thing which really gets to me is thast no one out of all the people who despise Kate has actually stood toe to toe with her and told her just how obnoxious she is!!
Not that she would believe it of course, but it is so irritating to see her get off scott free in all this."
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Yes, they have, but it doesn't matter. It all goes back to narcissism. It doesn't mean a darn thing to her if she's being told to her face that she's a misrable human being. The fact that she's generated enough attention to be called on the carpet would fuel her ego. Good or bad, right or wrong...it's the attention she wants.

Kat said...

Just saw this; maybe others have already posted. From an MSN site: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34435110/ns/entertainment-gossip/ (scroll down past Tiger story)
"Ayers said that Gosselin tries to keep busy, but without the demands of “Jon & Kate Plus Eight,” it takes a lot to fill the days and keep busy."

Wow, "single" mother to EIGHT kids and she has NOTHING to do? Those nannies, housekeepers, chefs, gardeners, landscapers, etc. must be earning their keep, if Lady Kate can't find anything to do without being in front of a camera!

ROFLMAO (don't worry, I took my shoes off first!)

she is evil said...

It's mighty strange that TLC wants to control Jon's activities now that JK8 is O-V-E-R. Who cares what he does now unless they're holding out hope to resume filming that stupid ass show again. Without Jon, ratings plummeted and Kate's pathology, bullshit, and stupidity were laid bare. The kids are not cute and are being treated poorly by their mother on camera. They appear to be emotionally stunted, angry, and violent, probably from enduring a lifetime of mistreatment from Kate. Imagine the fear they must live in with that mean, unfeeling, cold-hearted bitch. If the show resumes, the world will know that those kids were forced to do so by their mother and TLC. Sure, they won't complain, but only to avoid the wooden spoon and the wrath of Kate.

Jane in California said...

Kat said:
"Ayers said that Gosselin tries to keep busy, but without the demands of “Jon & Kate Plus Eight,” it takes a lot to fill the days and keep busy."
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Here's an idea - why not get a job, if you have so much time on your hands. Or volunteer in your community? Give back to the organizations that gave you so much. (actually this is a terrible idea - I would never want to foist Kate on anyone, especially someone already down on their luck!)

So here are some thoughts for Kate on how to fill her long days, now that she doesn't have a film crew to order about and free trips hither and yon to make it look like she has an interesting life:

My strongest recommendation is that you spend 2 hours (at minimum) per day in counseling for your extreme narcissism. That could easily fit in between your daily trip to Kinko's/Starbucks, and then afterward, you could stop to gas up your environmentally wasteful, vanity vehicle. Don't forget to pose for the paps that you have thoughtfully alerted.

(This is based on the assumption that your day starts at the decent hour of ten, long after the nanny has gotten the children up, dressed and off to school.)

After this busy morning, you'll have an hour or two to interview yourself in the mirror.

Then it's off to pick up the children. Whew! With 8 kids to pick up, life sure is hectic! There's no time to waste, so in the parking lot, start getting them back in line after their hours away from you. Don't allow them their shenanigans of standing in an unruly line, laughing and other such nonsense. They are too old for that!

Once home, relax for awhile - unwind by pointing out thougtfully when one of those icky boys starts breathing too loud, or tease the one that you not-so-secretly think is gay! Oh the wonderful memories you are building Kate.

Supervise their afternoon snack of 2 crackers each, and 4 grapes, as you enjoy a beverage or two, just to calm the nerves.

After they've been properly chastised for eating like pigs, hand them back off to the nanny while you go take an afternoon nap to sleep off organic drinks you had earlier.

It's the evening hours that are problematic. Your show isn't on to watch and Lordy Be! there's nothing else even remotely as good on tv as that, is there? I recommend re-applying tooth whitener every night. Don't worry about that warning that says you could do damage to your tooth enamel, I'm sure that's not really true. Have another cocktail, of course using only the finest organic vodka. After all, with 8 kids, you need it!

Then you can call up a friend or two. Oh that's right, you don't have any friends. You could always call Steve, after all, that's what he's paid for! Then you could call Jon and hang up on him, again.

See how easy it is to fill your days?

Corrie said...
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No cameras, no kids said...

Hey Kate, if you have so much free time every day, why don't you make the time to read to your kids, go to the library with them, maybe have some one on one time with each one (not just the girls)? You could go and pick the kids up from school and have an hour to talk on the ride home. They'd probably love to do something with their friends or anything outside of the Orphanage-Prison. Too bad those dogs aren't around to train and play with. Psst....the cameras don't have to be on for you to spend time with your kids. There's plenty to keep you busy, if only you were interested.

readerlady said...

Let me get this straight. Khate has 8, count 'em, 8 children, but she's having trouble finding ways to fill her days now that she doesn't have the show to feed her narcissism? I've got a few suggestions for you, Khate. Read a book and the newspaper. Volunteer at your kids' school. Clean your kids' rooms (and NOT by pitching everything down the stairs). Reconnect with your family. Spend some time talking with and actually LISTENING TO your children. Get a job. Cook some real meals for your kids instead of feeding them a cube of cheese, some crackers, and 2 or 3 grapes. Get into therapy (and take the kids too). Volunteer at a local food pantry or soup kitchen, then count your blessings. Go shopping for some normal "mom" clothes. Set up an imaginitive play area for your children. Take a class. Plant an indoor garden that you can tend with the kids (since you're so "interested" in organic cooking, make it an herb garden).

Anna said...

jibberjabbers said...

Jon, the best thing you can do right now is SUE Kate for spousal support and child support. After all, Kate is the responsible one. And hey, time to get paid.

Forget the media, forget the TV. Just live off of Kate an her successful television career with TLC.
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If they have the kids 50/50 and the kids remain in the house, I don't think Jon would get any child support. As for spousal support, that is temporary. Usually a judge awards it for a period of time until the other person gets on their feet. Spousal support is not a free gravy train for the rest of Jon's life.

Even it if were, it wouldn't be very good for Jon's ego as he was complaining on the show about a man needing to do something other than stay home with the kids. And it will do nothing for his public image -- people are not impressed with able bodied people who do nothing.

Jon needs to get a job. That is how he is going to start to earn back the respect of people.

Vanessa said...

Sanitized Gumgate!!?? Why did they air the original in the first place then? And yes, I might have to take a look myself just to see how they could clean it up.

Vanessa said...

Ayers quote is pre-approved by khate/tlc. They are yet again trying to prove to the public that the show was a great thing and it's left such a void in their lives. 8 kids and you can't fill your days? Just do what you've done all along, just WITHOUT the cameras! It's NOT the fact that you don't have a show, it's the fact that all the kids are in school now! Happens to all of us SAHMs! Kind of a mini empty nest syndrome. Get involved, find a hobby, and YES, maybe get a JOB!

Pa Mom Knows said...

"Jon should sue KATE for alienation of affection."

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He couldn't, even if he wanted to. An alienation of affection suit involves filing a complaint against a third party for interfering with the relationship between a married couple. In addition, the person who brings the suit must prove that love had existed between the married couple. Could he do that?

There are only a few states which still allow it, and Pennsylvania isn't one of them.

Callie said...

I just don't understand this smear campaign of Jon. I am a local and while I haven't met either or K, I have spoken to people who have known them. All I hear about Jon and his family is how nice and great they are. On the other hand, I never, ever hear the same about Kate. I know people who worked with her way back when and they all say she was and is a total witch.

How can media spin this so? It makes you wonder if anything you read is real.

N.E. Psychologist said...

My9cats said

AKA Life with Ham and Spam.

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I LOVE it! Who's who? (So I can use it for future reference).

Can't See Sheep said...

I'm posting this as I've read a number of post's stating they don't know who Jon's attorney is. I found this, that according to radar online Peter Toumbekis is Jon's attorney. I guess he's the one taking over for Heller in Maryland. Anyone know anything about this fellow?

This is where I found the attorney's name
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/exclusive-details-jon-gosselin-and-tlc-battling-maryland-court-today

To Tangerine Tanya, Christmas Miracle is awesome! Too bad it couldn't come true. Unfortunately you couldn't shake enough magic out of all 8 of Santa's reindeer & Harry Potter to change kate.

Katan the Stupid, love the name. Now we just need to get it in Latin for it to be official, like Charlemagne or Alexander the Great. Heaven's no, I'm not comparing her to them, thought it's pretty safe to assume that she too wants to conquer the world, bleh!

dustilies said...

@ Jane in California

You are so wicked and so wise! Another great post about how to fill up those long lonely hours with only the hired help to boss around.

Can't See Sheep said...

Jane in California said...


Don't worry about that warning that says you could do damage to your tooth enamel, I'm sure that's not really true. Have another cocktail, of course using only the finest organic vodka. After all, with 8 kids, you need it!
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Organic vodka! We can ship her off to Russia!...No, wait...That would just start a war all over again. Maybe she can be the first person to Mars or something.

Single mom of 8 kids & so much time on her hands, maybe she should try mopping her own floor. Looking after the kids herself & so on. And TLC thinks single moms will be able to identify with her (eye roll), they've lost whatever it was they had for minds, about 2 crackers & three grapes short.

she is evil said...

It's mighty strange that TLC wants to control Jon's activities now that JK8 is O-V-E-R. Who cares what he does now unless they're holding out hope to resume filming that stupid ass show again.
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That or they could also be worried about what Jon's going to blab to the public about what went on & what illegal things TLC did. Maybe they're trying to do damage control & fix whatever they can before it comes out, maybe they're just trying to keep him quiet for as long as possible. I think Jon should milk it for every last drop, make all the cash of it that he can & then fade into obscurity with his kids. Years of being married to kate, then years of being married to TLC & kate, that boy has already been to hell.

msrylee said...

I just read an interesting and well-written letter to the editor in the latest issue of Good Housekeeping. It was in regard to the article of Kate in the previous issue. I was surprised that the editor actually allowed it to be included, as the writer accused Kate of exploiting her children.

It is so wonderful to scroll through the T.V. channels and not see even one clip of the Gosselins, at least in my area of South-Western Ontario.

Anne said...

Latest issue of TV Guide has "The Year in Cheers & Jeers". Jon and Kate made the list. Here's what it says:

"JEERS to Jon & Kate Plus 8 for being the worst example of parenting since Joan Crawford. The shrew and the schlub seemed more interested in publicly duking it out than protecting their brood from a lifetime of embarrassment."

BarbMae said...

GOSSELIN FREE, GOSSELIN FREE THANK GOODNESS WE ARE FINALLY GOSSELIN FREE!!!! (At least for a whole week)....

Brummygirl said...

@Midnight Serenade:
Who was it and when, other than Jon?

For the Moment? said...

It seems that Kate is all over the place, turkey of the year, most fascinating, jeers, and now one of the 20 most intriguing. Disgusting that people do not do their research and just include people in their list because they can pull in ratings on TV.

Brummygirl said...

Can't See Sheep said:
Unfortunately you couldn't shake enough magic out of all 8 of Santa's reindeer & Harry Potter to change kate.
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Funny :) That's an idea, let's send her to Hogwarts....the name suits her!!

@California Jane:
re Kate filling her days....excellent, she would fold after a week!!

Proudgrandma:
That is so sweet of you. Bless you.

HW said...

If Kate is having trouble filling her days, she could devote several hours to watching her reality show to see what a terrible wife and mother she is. Then, when she's done, she can spend the next several years making amends to all the peopole she's destroyed because they "couldn't help her."
When she needs a break from all that, she could try doing laundry, making meals, playing with her children and making the cameras go away forever.
I know it's a ridiculous thought, but it's Christmas; one can hope for miracles.

Snerk said...

I hope next year she makes a list that may not exist - most easily forgotten.

PA Woman said...

That or they could also be worried about what Jon's going to blab to the public about what went on & what illegal things TLC did. Maybe they're trying to do damage control & fix whatever they can before it comes out, maybe they're just trying to keep him quiet for as long as possible. I think Jon should milk it for every last drop, make all the cash of it that he can & then fade into obscurity with his kids.

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I'm convinenced that is why TLC is giving Kate her own show. To keep her quiet.

Jon may not be able to talk about what happened on the show (without potentially getting sued) after his contract with TLC is over anyway. I know the confidentiality agreement we sign where I work lasts for years after you are no longer working here.

Just wondering said...

readerlady said...
Let me get this straight. Khate has 8, count 'em, 8 children, but she's having trouble finding ways to fill her days now that she doesn't have the show to feed her narcissism?"



Are the tups going to school 3 days only still, or as the show has stopped, are they now in school 5 days a week

my9cats said...

.E. Psychologist said...
My9cats said

AKA Life with Ham and Spam.

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I LOVE it! Who's who? (So I can use it for future reference).

12/16/2009 6:19 AM

My pleasure.
Ham is Kate for her devotion to any kind of camera.
Spam for the porcine manchild.
Have a great day!
Meow.....

WhoDidWhatFirst said...

I may have an idea for keeping Kate busy now that the show has stopped. This morning while surfing the dials I came across a rerun of J & K. I don't know which show it was but it gave a shot of the entry way to their home. On one side were a million coats hanging and the other side showed shoes everywhere. Who lives like that? Especially in a mansion costing over a million bucks! It was hideous. I think Kate should have had a huge coat closet built instead of getting a second sub-Zero refrig. It probably would have been cheaper. Anyway maybe she could spend some time cleaning up the entryway and putting the shoes and coats in the rooms of the kids if no closet is available. She has about as much class as a cockroach.

ToTheMoonAlice said...

BarbMae said...
GOSSELIN FREE, GOSSELIN FREE THANK GOODNESS WE ARE FINALLY GOSSELIN FREE!!!! (At least for a whole week)....

Amen to that! It is SO nice to not see either of those two doofuses every time I'm in the checkout line at the grocery!

Dunwoody Mom said...

The Learning Channel is trying so hard to keep Kate relevant. It's too late, no one cares anymore (well, except the sheeple). Kate's 15 minutes are up. I would think The Learning Channel would be trying to come up with their next big whacko to spotlight.....

PA Woman said...

Dunwoody Mom said...
I would think The Learning Channel would be trying to come up with their next big whacko to spotlight.....

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I agree. And why even push it. The six will be in school full time next year and have less time to film. Plus, as they get older I think the viewers are going to have less interest in them. It seems they are nearing the end of their "shelf life". I'm surprised TLC just doesn't drop the whole thing and persue a new family entirely.

Ohio Buckeye said...

@Who Did What First: The whole character of Kate is contrived - she obsesses about minutiae (ice cream and grass stains, on what particular garage shelf in which particular few square inches a box of pinecones should be stored - I could go on...), but can tolerate a hallway full of coats and shoes clutter?

AND she requires the help of a professional organizer to clean up her basement?


So many contradictions.
So much b.s.

Hasn't it been a great treat, not seeing/hearing about the Gosselins lately?

So much for Kate's excuse for staying on tv (the media frenzy would continue no matter what, so she might as well get paid for it). HA!

Oblivion has a special place, on a special shelf waiting just for Kate. The shelf is in the garage and she can sit there, along with the pinecones she dominated.

Kate, Queen of Pinecones
And Oblivion.

ToTheMoonAlice said...

MSN.com has a link to news of the Gosselin's divorce settlement, FYI...Aparently, Kate "couldn't be happier" with what she's getting...

anotherthing... said...

Jane in Ca.... Oh, that post with advice for Kate is perfect. Love it!! :)

I, too, am happy to see less of the nasty G's on the tab covers at the grocery store. I also really find the 'Jeers' and Peoples "want to see less of" award great.

The 'interesting/fascinating' crap (side note Kate only got a 1.8 out of 10 on viewer approval rating for Babs list on the huffington post)... I guess I can see it... its the same kind of 'interesting/fascinating' as Lady Ga Ga -um, who? and why? really? NOT interested.- or how about "the 'real' housewives"??? Um nasty. If i were ever compared to any of them, Id be offended.

Im shocked that THAT is the best both People and Old Babs could do. Gross. Sad. Its the begining of the end. LOL :)

Anyway. Sorry for the rant.

Canadian Mom said...

Jon's cheese has slipped off his cracker...maybe the kids ate it.

Kate, however, never had any cheese on her cracker to begin with.

Sidney said...

WhoDidWhatFirst said...
I may have an idea for keeping Kate busy now that the show has stopped. This morning while surfing the dials I came across a rerun of J & K. I don't know which show it was but it gave a shot of the entry way to their home. On one side were a million coats hanging and the other side showed shoes everywhere. Who lives like that? Especially in a mansion costing over a million bucks! It was hideous. I think Kate should have had a huge coat closet built instead of getting a second sub-Zero refrig. It probably would have been cheaper. Anyway maybe she could spend some time cleaning up the entryway and putting the shoes and coats in the rooms of the kids if no closet is available. She has about as much class as a cockroach.

12/16/2009 11:20 AM
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Boy, isn't that entry way a hideous mess! It looks like the inside of a bowling alley. Can't she see that ugliness?

Merrilee said...

I watched Anderson Cooper this morning on Regis and Kelly. Anderson was talking about the shows "I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant."

Anderson said something about TLC no longer being "the learning channel."

Yes, Anderson. I agree. TLC is a scandal.

Sidney said...

Jon's lawyer thinks Jon is a folk hero!

I think Jon's lawyer is scum.


http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b158326_jon_kate_no_divorce_christmas.html

jibberjabbers said...

I just realized that this Gosselin mess also forced TLC to quietly remove their other pathetic show. Toddlers and Tiaras.

One small step for Children rights, one giant disappointment for TLC and pervs everywhere.

BH said...

It worries me that Khate o Ham is "very happy with the settlement" as I've seen on a couple of sites. Hope that doesn't mean that she is able to use the kids any way she sees fit, including exploiting them further (as in Mady's first bra, Cara gets her period), etc. on a show.

If she is happy with money division, well, good for her and good for Jon because they will spend it on themselves as quickly as the kids made it. I only hope that there was some provision that money, most of the money, be set aside for the kids and their psychiatric and therapy needs in the future.

anotherthing... said...

Kate "couldnt be happier" with the outcome of the divorce...??? Ok. So, I do believe that she would say this...

Shed have to make some sort of statement first. Shed have to be happpiest first and more so than Jon. Of course. Ever the narcissist.

But, lets be honest (since she is clearly unable to)... *WHAT* exactly is there to divide up????

A home with a mortgage that neither one can afford?

A home that is unsold and empty and has a tax (or was it a water/electric?) lien against it?

A few cars that are either leased (my guess) or have large monthly payments?

A bit of cash that Kate hasnt had time to spend yet (but will quickly as their household-only bills are in excess of $10,000/month as stated by them... not including travel, spa, nannies, chef etc...?)?

Um....

the money that they have will be gone before they know it. Esp with lawyer fees. Money goes fast. A million or two may sounds like a lot to some, but not the way they live... and who knows how much they really have. It goes fast. Esp when youre not bright: neither one of them are bright. Obviously.

They dont have jobs. Kate has a 'show'... yeah, we'll see. How will they make the payments for these things theyre fighting over?

If theyre foolish enough to sign the absurd contract with TLC that they did... I doubt they are smart enough to handle money. And as evident by theyre spending thus far... Id say their bickering and fighting about money and the arbitration... is silly. Theyre wasting some poor arbitraitors time.

Theyre idiots.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Canadian Mom said, "Jon's cheese has slipped off his cracker...maybe the kids ate it.

Kate, however, never had any cheese on her cracker to begin with."

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LOL and well said! You are so right: there is an obvious dearth of cheese in GosselinLand.

Tangerine Tanya said...

Thanks for the compliments fellow friends! :-)


So Kate has to find ways to fill her days?.....The kids sobbed over strangers and not family and close friends?.....Entry way filled with coats and shoes?

Now can I PLEEEEESE turn the hose on her?

anotherthing... said...

Tangerine Tanya said...


"....Now can I PLEEEEESE turn the hose on her?"
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Yes. Yes, you may.

Megan said...

@ PA Mom Knows

There is such a thing as parental alienation of affection.

jibberjabbers said...

I wonder how the judge split the assets?

70/30 in favor of Kate since she pays the bill? And Jon is still required to pay $7500 a month.

Which makes it more like 80/20 split.

Plus he is not permitted to do any media appearances and cannot make any public announcement.

While Kate on the other hand can continue to contract everything TLC is forcing upon Jon.

Sounds fair.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"There is such a thing as parental alienation of affection."

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Of course there is, but complaints are generally dismissed in court. It's difficult to prove. In fact, if a state (such as PA) doesn't have an alienation of affection law, courts will throw out a complaint of parental alienation of affection.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"He is buying them special presents and looking forward to preparation of celebration..."

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Maybe they don't want or need special presents. Maybe they just want him home, with peace in the family.

she is evil said...

Oh Tangerine Tanya, yes please turn the hose on Kate. But just not in front of the kids.. She WILL melt.

Jane in California said...

anotherthing... said...
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I couldn't agree more. Whatever the split in assets between these two boneheads, it won't last either one of them long. Jon's money is fast being eaten up by legal bills. Kate's is being eaten up by cosmetic surgery, expensive jewelry and clothing, and a personal body guard.

The mortgage alone on that McMansion has to be painful to pay every month. With no current regular source of income, it will soon become very burdensome. In today's market, I doubt they could sell it for what they purchased it for. They'd have to take a loss.

And that pricey private school? Ouch goes the wallet.

I too think those vehicles are leased rather than owned.

Katie Irene's mind must be going a million miles a minute -- who is her next con? Does she really have a lover in the higher echelons of TLC? Heck, maybe there is some exec there who likes being berated -- there are sadly much weirder things than that. Maybe she humiliates him in private and he likes it! Still, how long before the rest of the execs put the kybosh on continuing to fund someone as unpopular as Kate?

No matter how little she feeds them, or how long she makes them wear bibs or matching clothing, those tups are growing up. As much as I've grown to like and care for them, they aren't "baby cute" anymore and their speech problems are becoming awkward and obvious, not cutesy.

On a side note, I had a thought about one reason Kate loves her HIGH heels so much - that's so she can continue to yank up the arm of whatever tup she happens to be holding hands with, without it appearing too obvious that's exactly what she's doing. As they get taller, she can't pull their arm straight up and nearly out of the socket in street shoes, without holding her arm up higher. So voila - heels, problem temporarily solved. Walk with your child while making them extremely uncomfortable. Classic Mommie Dearest move.

N.E. Psychologist said...

Ohio Buckeye said
Oblivion has a special place, on a special shelf waiting just for Kate. The shelf is in the garage and she can sit there, along with the pinecones she dominated.
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On her white plastic throne.
Let's hope the pinecones will be the only thing left that she CAN dominate

Vanessa said...

Yes! Hose her down with ice cold water with the pressure turned to max all the while taunting her with the nice warm outdoor shower nearby!

N.E. Psychologist said...

On his blog, Z on TV stated that TLC has emphatically told him that they are NOT the LEARNING Channel.

I'm thinking they changed their name to the LICENTIOUS Channel. Their actions don't appear to be
restrained by general morality and they certainly disregard boundaries........

Wow. That describes Kate! er.....Ham.

My9Cats - Ham and Spam is STILL cracking me up. It's perfect on so many levels.

someone smack her said...

What is there for Kate to be thrilled about with the divorce agreement? It's not like she's divorcing a billionaire asshole No matter how assets are being split, Jon is definitely getting a check out of this. Either this statement is hot air to make Kate seem victorious (huh?) or she's happy about something like control of the kids, not having to spiit future earnings with him, not having to pay alimony, or the like. A more appropriate and WHOLESOME, TLC-friendly statement would be,"I'm so sad, but we will remain friends and work hard to be good parents to our kids." But nooooo, Kate somehow thinks this is a contest. Such an idiot.

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