GWOP Viewers LEAST Favorite Moments

TLC supposedly let viewers vote on the top moments of Jon & Kate + 8, but GWOP reader Bob S. suggested that our savvy readers vote for their least favorite moments of the show. So have at it!

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Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

My heart still breaks over the "coupon" episode.

It closely follows the impacted bowl episode as Khate focuses on the catalogues...........ewwww
It still pains me as a mother how she could think the viewing public would think that was anything less than child abuse.
I think Meridith and the View ladies should be pillarized for giving that woman any sympathy or consideration of her "umm" viewpoints.

My heart breaks for those children. Divorce is not easy, but I shall mention, if you listen to the advice of your GOOD lawyer, you will NOT be involved with another partner in front of your children for a good LONG time. I never regreted that advice and I was very careful never to expose my children to another man. They respected me for that choice.
I guess poor Jon needs my lawyer...

JenTru said...

6. The entire Puppies episode which was a Kate-centric Me-fest instead of being about puppies for the kids

5. Gumgate

4. Joel sick on the laundry room floor

3. Kate being utterly dismissive of the kids in the epi where they are fighting about something and she is being interviewed and then looks at the camera and says "Ugh." Pesky kids. (Why can't I remember which epi this was? I think I even wrote the recap!)

2. Collin's impacted poo being removed in the back of the van while Kate obsessively shopped for beds she didn't need

1. Any episode where Kate opens her big, fat, cud-chewing mouth

Debi said...

Least favorite? For me, that would have to be any time Kate opened her mouth.

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

1. Toys R Us incident
2. Gumgate (loved that episode up until then)
3. Joel on the laundry room floor
4. Kate publicly berating/emascuatling Jon (too many times to count)
5. "Who pooped where?" (first day in new house, making sure the world knows that a 4-1/2 year old still needs help wiping himself)


I'm sure I will think of more, but there's a few to get you started.

HW said...

That time Kate talked....yeah all of them.

kate is a cocky bitch said...

after these 3 instances I stopped watching the show for good :

when The Bitch refused to let the boys have their cupcakes on their birthdays

when Jon and The Bitch travled cross country leaving all 8 of their kids home so Jon could take advantage of free hairplugs

when Jon and The Bitch went out to dinner in UT leaving Beth and her daughter alone to take care of all 8 of the kids

Kate Out of Control said...

Kate screaming at Jon in pulic like he was a dog at Toys R Us, the airport, the pumpkin patch.....

The coupon episode showed how condescending, nasty and relentless Kate can be at home. There was no reason for her to go ballistic.

For the Moment? said...

I have a lot of least favorites but the one that caused me to stop watching was when Kate had come home from a long trip, and you could hear something major going on with the kids in the background. Kate was doing her thing with the camera (or camera guy) and just talked louder. Suddenly the kids came rushing in trying to get her to come and she
got rid of them and looked at the camera and actually said ughhh and made a face that I will never forget. It was pure hatred that the kids would dare to interrupt her moment. At that point you would think the camera guy would have said we've got time you go and check on the children but no she never missed a beat and the kids had to handle their problem on their own. I turned the channel and have not watched since. I did watch the clips on the viewers show but flipped it over when she did her comments. T

NoUse4Kate said...

My least favorite show was the furniture shopping one. I was completely appalled by k8's behavior towards her own son. It was mean, it was cold, it was inhumane.

Then there was the episode with the little boy sick and on the floor, the many episodes that belittled Jon, the pooping episodes, the Disney ice cream ordeal, too many to list. She is not a real mother at heart. She is a pretend mom on TV. She is just a cruel individual, lacking any compassion.

logical said...

cupcakes need i say more

cdnmom47 said...

My least favorite...and the show that made me stop watching this family altogether was the infamous 'gum-gate' episode.

I couldn't believe a mother could be so cruel...so cold...all because of some bubblegum.

I changed the channel and never went back.

Janine said...

Every time K8 hit Jon. Every time she yelled from a perch "HELLoooooo" or "COME Heeeeeeere" so everyone would turn and see his tail go between his legs as he did as he was told. When she said with disgust "what did I TELL you?" when he asked which shoes she would like the kids to wear (why not just kindly tell him, again?)
When the Tup boys couldn't eat the birthday cupcakes.
When she called Jodi and then made a big hurtful scene saying she was throwing the chewey out.
When the dogs were neglected and sent back.
"Come and get yer popcorn"
Standing mostly alone in two different outfits at the Tups 5th birthday (first little number was too cold) and hollering the next event was over here "Moms"... they never came together and met each other... she pointed and gave direction.
let's see if these are on the top of the top!

KatesNoMom said...

My "least favorite moment"? Wow, it's hard to pick "just one" - I could fill an entire hour with clips....

But the one that "done me in" was the bed-shopping episode and poor Colin (?) suffering from a fecal impaction.

So MANY things screamed, "WRONG!!!" in this episode.
1. What human being with an once of compassion would continue sitting comfortably in a chair browsing through a BUNK BED CATALOG while a child was crying in agony?!

2. What MOTHER would just wave her hand to her husband to "deal with it, I'm busy" when her CHILD was in such distress??!

3. What FATHER would attempt to digitize a child in the back of a van??!

4. What type of PARENTS would ALLOW THIS TO BE FILMED??????

5. What type of television network/cameramen/producers would proceed in filming it??

I was tramatized by just VIEWING this horrendous and despicable episode - I can't even imagine what the poor child felt like, at that point, and in years to come, since it is available for the WORLD to see.

That was the last straw for me - I never watched another full episode again.

Kate - you are a disgusting excuse for a human being. NO MOTHER with an ounce of love and compassion would have let that proceed.

corrin said...

I would say gumgate was an awful moment. That more little boy looked like his life was ending when she said that the bear was going in the trash. To make things worse she then calls the woman who was nice enough to watch her children and yells over something that could have easily been fixed.

The Girl said...

Kate leaving the babies to go have plastic surgery. It wasn't "cute" when they were amazed to see you, it was sad.

Heather said...

The day that these poor children were forced into "mommy's" show biz lifestyle. That is the one moment above all that I truly despise.

Swissmiss said...

Kate bellowing at Jon in the toy store. Kate telling Jon he was breathing too loudly during one of the couch interviews. Kate bellowing at Jon when they visited the pumpkin patch when the kids were much, much younger.

Kate making horrible faces when talking about food her children have prepared. How demeaning to them.

Kate's melt-down on the airplane on the trip to Utah. Then claiming she was sick when she arrived at the ski resort but suddenly improving when it was time for her spa visit. Kate looking out the kitchen window after moving into the new house and proclaiming, "It's mine, all mine." Kate claiming she spent 4 hours scrubbing a refrigerator in the new house when she could have been spending it with her family.

I wouldn't talk to a dog (if I had one), the way Kate would talk to Jon.

He may not be perfect in his behavior since leaving the show, but after putting up with such a horrible woman for all those years, I can't blame him for going a little crazy when he finally gets some freedom. Let's hope he can moderate his behavior.

He is by far the more loving parent. I'm not sure Kate is capable of true love except when it comes to loving money and 'things.' The more freebies, the better. That's our Kate.

I wouldn't mind seeing a once a year special about kids from now on, but hopefully they could blur out Kate's face and hire an actress to dub her lines so we wouldn't hear that terrible screaching and cackling.

HappyLaura said...

Poor little Aaden hiding from the dog while the rest of the family was "picking out" the puppies. The only person paying any attention to his cries was the cameraman. Come to think of it, did they ever show Aaden interacting with either of the dogs? He was probably scared to death in his own house.

SaNdY said...

Needless to say, I have seen too many least favorite moments on this show...but the one that stands out for me is when they went shopping for beds for the tups and Colin was in obvious pain because he was constipated...and had been for awhile...nurse Katie Irene said she wasn't sure how long this had been going on with him (WTF???) and she made Jon deal with Colin's problem, after calling Colin an antelope, because she was too busy picking out beds. I chose this one because even though her child was in pain, she 'went on with the show'....and although I thought Cupcake-gate and Gum-gate, among others, were also disgusting displays of Kate's horrendously horrendous behavior, she showed absolutely no motherly, nurturing, or compassionate tendencies toward Colin, even though he was in obvious pain....

justgoaway said...

Oh gosh, there are too many to mention. Start with:
Joel on the laundry room floor.
Collin and the bear.
Toys R Us.
Disney- "She is ruined"
Christmas gifts from fans "Who am I to say no"
4th Birthday- no cupcakes for you.

Emily the Great and Terrible said...

The whole cupcake incident always really upsets me. I've noticed they don't show that in reruns anymore.

Lisa6Kids said...

Mine for sure is the bedroom store. I am absolutely sick inside when Collin is in extreme pain and is completely ignored by his mom. Horrifying. Second is the birthday cupcakes. Aaden's face when he realizes they don't get to eat the cupcakes is equally heartbreaking.

Minka's tail said...

I'm sure those of those infamous episodes will come up (and rightly so): gumgate, coupongate, poopgate, Toys R Us gate--but I think those are not the worst moments for me. They were so bad, they were almost funny. Had this been a happy family, I could see them all laughing about those someday around the dinner table, as they josh with their kooky but loving Mom.

No, to me the worst moments were little, unheralded moments that pulled the veil down on the "happy family" facade and were not pleasant at all to watch, even in a train-wreck manner.

1. Opening presents. I didn't like it when Kate barked in the 2nd Xmas episode that these were the gifts sent to the kids from all over the world. I also hated the way that Cara and Mady had to sit back to back to open their presents.

This was supposed to be a show about a happy, regular family. Instead, it showed a family of celebrities getting swag from their "fans" and older children with some serious sibling rivalry issues, probably more with the tups than each other, but it spilled over. These incidents first gave me the insight that all may not be well here.

2. The "special" days. For , Leah and Alexis, it went well. For Cara and Mady, their special days were sort of lame. Mady got her ears pierced, but Cara apparently did too, later. and it was no big deal for her. It's like Mady wasted her special day by going to the mall. Cara went roller-blading, another thing that could be done on a non-special day.

Hannah and Aaden were supposed to have do-overs due to the weather, and they never did. They were intimidated by the animals (as I was at that age--I froze at a pig farm), and should have had another chance to do something special.
These episodes made me realize what little individual attention the kids got, and how some seemed to get preferential treatment (Alexis traveled 2 hours for her day, but Mady just went to the mall.) Oh yeah, just remembered, Collin and Joel's special place was also visited by the others later, destroying the specialness.

3. On the other hand, I hated it when they were given VIP treatment at the baseball and basketball games, and at the Christian theater. These episodes were a big mistake from a marketing standpoint. We're supposed to, on one hand, think this family so so poor it's a major undertaking to go to the train museum in the next town--but they're in a luxury box meeting the Phillies manager's girlfriend? Or in front row seats at the Harlem globetrotters? They're poor everymen when they wanna be and rich stars when they wanna be? Huh?

Sorry I went on for so long. I hope I've brought up some rarely mentioned moments.

my9cats said...

I stopped watching after the 2nd epi of the OBX 2008, so here goes:
1) Cupcake gate (sadistic)
2) Gum gate (sadistic)
3) Joel gate (sadistic)
4) Not being able to view sunset in OBX (Just plain nastiness)
5)leaving sick kids to go to CA for hair plugs gate (don't even get me started)

There are many more but am limited to five.

Jane in California said...

I think my all time least favorite moment on the show was "Joelgate," the time when little Joel was sick with the flu, and Kate put him on the laundry room floor with a thin blanket, and left him alone, shutting the door on this "vomitous" child. In five seasons of shocking, disturbing behavior by Kate, that episode still shocks me to the core.

One would think that even if you didn't love a child, common decency would at least prevail upon you to place that child in a bed, with covers, and that you would keep an eye on him.

This particular moment exposed Kate's cruel streak and her (dare I say?) pathological dislike for her own son(s). You know she would never have done that to one of the girls.

I just hope the boys
a) are strong enough to move away as soon as they are old enough and break off ties with this toxic woman;
b) get some good counseling to deal with the host of emotional issues they are sure to be burdened with; and
c) find a circle of friends and family that are truly loving and accepting and lead happy lives.

Big Flap O'Hair said...

I didn't watch the earlier seasons so I know there are lots more egregious moments. But the one that turned me around was in the Gosselins Go Green episode, when Kate was whining and moaning about the horrible "project" that Steve Thomas was so thoughtlessly foisting upon them. She was falling all overself to show how she was sooooo above it all and could just noooooot be booootherrred with the awful inconvenience of it all. For me, coming rather late to the game, that was the moment that opened my eyes to Kate's idiotic posturing.

goawayfools said...

OK, I have a lesser mentioned least favorite moment: Utah (what a hellish vacay, huh?). Kate is packing up clothes getting ready to go home. She's kinda absent mindedly saying things like "We love this house. The kids had so much fun" and asks Mady to agree with her. Mady was a brat, but she's SIX years old, and said "No". Kate then snaps back at Mady that they won't bring her back next time and Mady instantly regrets what she just said. Instead of cutting the kid a break, or teasing her lovingly about being bratty, Kate rips into her and Mady leaves in tears and locks herself in a room away from the cameras and Kate. It was so mean spirited and who's kid hasn't embarrassed them before? Kate could have hugged her and whispered that they'd talk about it later or anything besides what she did. How could she rip into that little girl for a relatively minor offense. I don't even think Mady meant it. And shame on TLC for deciding this was worthy of making the final cut

Pony said...

What a tough topic. Like choosing at a Godiva chocolate store, there are just so many to consider. I think I'll go with Joel on the floor of the laundry room, followed by Kate talking to Jon the way talk to dogs - when they don't know how to talk to dogs.

Virginia Girl said...

There are many of course, but the LIE of their wedding vow renewal in Hawaii. It was extended moment, to a whole show It just amazes and infuriates me that they could lie so easily to their children and world for a lavish, selfish trip to Hawaii.

dustilies said...

Oh boy, there are so very many . . .

1) Yelling at Jon about being a showerhead without a "coupon," then demanding the receipt in the most demeaning and unpleasant way possible. I actually curled up in defensive ball I was so scared.

2) Mocking Jon for his troubles in backing in to the driveway with the trailer on the back of the big van.

(BTW, Why couldn't not a nanny follow them in the minivan with luggage and whatever else she needed to avoid having a single spontaneous moment in their deluxe furnished beachhouse rental?)

3) Removing Jon's stitches or staples after the hairplugs. Some nurse! She acted like it was the grossest, ickiest thing she had ever been asked to do.

Cookies, Anyone? said...

Too much disdain for too many examples of Kate's meanspiritedness prevents me from being able to pick just one.

Kate single handedly ruined just about every opportunity to make those happy childhood memories she's always blathering about.

Even such a simple activity as pumpkin carving proved beyond Kate's ability to enjoy watching her husband and kids enjoy each other and their pumpkin carving. As always, despite requests to just let the kids have fun, Kate's needs for control (masked by her supposed need for order and organization) took precedence.

Pathology on so many levels. Why is Kate alwlays so disinterested in actually PARTICIPATING rather than standing on the sidelines barking out orders and criticism?

Why is there never an appreciation for watching the kids bond with their dad?

What is this need for constant control and attention?

Why has she always been absolutely devoid of JOY?

She's a sick cookie. (and not even an 'organic' one)
Why is she

The Big Wooden Spoon said...

Aaah, which one to choose....

I think the stupidest thing J&K ever did was to take eight small children to the toy store for Christmas shopping. How on earth did they expect that to make a pleasant memory? IMO, they should have hired a sitter and taken them in small groups. The twins should have been split up for sure, and NOT encouraged to pick the same damn thing for each other.

That entire episode was just plain ugly, culminating in the famous "Joooooon!".

Corinne said...

Whenever Kate opens her mouth...

Geri said...

I don't recall which episode this was on. Kate was potty training the boys and told Collin not to get up off the potty chair until he peed in it. Then she proceeded to turn off the light and close the bathroom door, leaving him alone on that potty chair in the dark. Who the hell does that? Kate!!! Collin did not react at all, it seemed he was used to that sort of treatment. So sad.

Selfish Kate said...

SaNdY- Even back then, Kate chose to take all 8 kids to the bed store, so they could do filming, even though Collin was obviously in distress. Wouldn't it have made more sense to leave most of the kids at home with Jon, especially Collin? But the show must go on, and Kate had to get that filmed with ALL kids regardless. One of the reasons many of hate this show. Never mind she took her sweet old time in selecting new beds. Oh Kate just sucks to no end.

LittleMissNASCAR said...

I've been pretty sick the last few weeks and haven't been able to go to work. As a result, I've watched more J&K reruns than I care to admit. My least favorite moments...

The whole Hawaii trip. What a shame."We're going to be together FOREVER". Yeah, uh huh. The whole thing was just so greedy and over the top.

Kate telling Jon he was breathing too loud

All couch interviews where Kate slaps or belittles Jon, or where they mock their children. I guess that was pretty much every interview.

Kate at the spa in Utah. She was so "sick" that she couldn't do anything with her kids, but she could make it to the spa. Being sick right now, the last thing I would want is someone pawing all over me at a spa.

I could go on and on, but those are the ones that come to mind at the moment. Kate just sickens me.

Terri said...

Aside from little Aaiden not getting his cupcake the scene when Kate yelled at Jon and told him to repeat what she said and he did.

Selfish Kate said...

5)leaving sick kids to go to CA for hair plugs gate (don't even get me started)
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I agree, Kate did not need to go with Jon, but she simply could not turn down a free trip, in spite of her kids. Notice Jon stayed home with all kids while she had her tummy tuck.

uneasy said...

Any moment where Kate was dismissive, cruel, rude, or abusive to her kids... four or five times in each and every episode.

cwpuzzler said...

It always bothered me that when the 6 were babies, she couldn't drag herself out of bed early in the mornng and they had to stay in their cribs awake, hungry and crying until she could get out of bed to get them. Then a couple years later she talks about gladly getting up early to admire her new bathroom or to work out in the basement. You'd think the babies would have been the priority, not a bathroom or a workout.

dustilies said...

Selfish Kate said...
Wouldn't it have made more sense to leave most of the kids at home with Jon, especially Collin? But the show must go on, and Kate had to get that filmed with ALL kids regardless.(snip) Oh Kate just sucks to no end.
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That epi was such a disgusting display of parental incompetence and focus on freebies. Since the salesman had already written up part of the order, why couldn't she have taken the catalogue home and call in the rest of it? There was no reason to bring the kids, since she was never going to give them any say in what SHE picked. She must have either lost her mind or thought she looked like a good mom doing wholesome family things with her kids. Or, actually, both.

Calling Dr. Spock! said...

How we know Kate is NOT a graduate of the Dr. Spock School of Logic:

INSISTS upon using that stupid rings on a rope gizmo for the 4th of July 'because I want them to do things like normal kids who are not sextuplets' (hypocritical on too many levels to list herein)

Drags the kids to FURNITURE shop 'because we took Cara & Mady along to buy their beds (so 2 = 8?)


Feeds kids icecream on a hot day then absolutely unhinges when the ice cream melts onto clothing.

Takes kids to a park to play but rolling down a grassy slope is disallowed.

Takes kids to The Crayola Factory but disallows kids to use markers.

Takes kids to paint pictures but tells them which colors they may use (so that the art matches her decor). Art is self expression, Kate. This means the KIDS get to choose their own palette.

Moves into a mansion but loses over a coupon-less showerhead.

Shops with coupons and calculator in hand but blows bucks big time on plastic surgery, hooker shoes and attire.

Makes her religion a big deal but shows neither honesty nor kindness nor compassion to ANYONE.

Megan said...

I agree with all of the above posts - Disney, coupon, ToysRUs, etc

The worst for me was an early episode - the tups look so young. Kate found a knob that had been removed from a drawer and literally SCREAMED in the tups faces to determine who took the knob off of the drawer.

I couldn't even watch the whole scene because it was so disturbing.

Does anyone else remember this?

Knob Gate said...

Megan, yes I remember that one. Even as an adult I was very uncomfortable just watching this kind of tirade. Then to ponder how it must've felt to little children made it even more disturbing. All over a freaking KNOB. And is this supposed to be an example of loving and effective parenting, TLC????

To state that Kate's priorities are screwed up is the understatement of the century.

TLC: Displays of this kind of pathological parenting is NOT entertainment.

Protect8 said...

I agree with all of the ones mentioned above.

But one episode that really stands out for me is "Mommies For A Day" when the twins wanted to have a day where they would take care of the sextuplets. Parents should set their children up for success - help them make it work. Kate set the twins up for failure and didn't support them to make it work. So one more time, just like when Kate made fun of twins with their musical instruments, the twins get the message that they are incompetent.

And as if it couldn't get worse, at the end of the day Kate makes the point that she is a better Mommy than the twins. Narcissists are incapable of NOT competing with their own children.

Sickening. And I guess I have to add the whole musical instrument thing where the violin becomes all about Kate.

Kate's smile and cackle when she puts down her children, along with Jon making those horrible faces when imitating them, simply has to be one of the meanest things a mother can do. Fortunately, the children will have all of the videotape to show their therapist when they are older.

Miss said...

Megan yes I remember knobgate. That is when little Collin did his famous cute dance.

she is evil said...

Who the hell brings 8 little kids who probably still believe in Santa to toys r us to shop for their presents? Kate whined that it was stressful to her so that's why she castrated Jon. Well no s--t, Sherlock, it was an impossible, dunderheaded idea in the first place. Why have the kids there at all? Why not go alone and leave the kids at home with Jon or another servant? The kids should have no involvement at that age regarding toys/presents. It's part of the magic of Christmas to a young kid; how all this loot just shows up out of nowhere. Still waiting for you to apologize to Jon.... bitch.

Lucy said...

All of the above moments ... plus ... the episode where Kate is "organizing" her downstairs storage area. The crew is interviewing her and the children are upstairs screaming and screaming! A normal (aka sane) mother would stop the filming and rush upstairs to tend to her children. Not Kate! She just ignored the screams. Shocking! Kate and TLC O'Neill are disgusting toxic women. There is no way any of this show or TLC shows featuring little children can be considered "entertainment".

Velvet Sky said...

Cupcake episode...and there was so much more to it than just cupcakes; the beginning, on the way to CHURCH, with both Jon and Kate calling their kids 'stupid', the chewy gooey cupcake center, with all it's horrendous behavior by Kate, to the very end where Kate slams Jon for his weight and quickly deflects her slamming by shifting to a semantics lesson for Jon about referring to their lives in seasons, which she does OFTEN now.

That whole episode had so much wrong in it - not once ounce of right.

It was the biggest mess I have ever seen, and I'm not talking about the cupcake icing.

bedonenow said...

KatesNoMom said...
My "least favorite moment"? Wow, it's hard to pick "just one" - I could fill an entire hour with clips....

But the one that "done me in" was the bed-shopping episode and poor Colin (?) suffering from a fecal impaction.
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Friend, you are exactly right. How this child will live this down in middle school is beyond me. Every boy is gym class will have something to say about Collin's rear end. She sat there like a queen, so arrogant and self entitled, yelling at the catalogue "Why dont you come in a different color!?" I remember thinking 'she wants that clerk to tell her he will work it out for her. he will magically produce some different wood just for her' and then later her famous line "Men. Arent they lovely." Jon did everything for her and for their children and she was still pissed. If all she was gonna do was sit and leaf through a catalogue, why bring those 8 awful children to bounce around in a furniture store, especially KNOWING Collin was ill.

I know that was the episode when I realized she would do anything to be the center of attention.

Gum-gate showed me how ill and abusive she was. Deliberatley screeching threats at her toddler, TRYING to hurt him, TRYING to frighten him, DELIGHTING in his terror and his hurt and fear, she loved it. The abuse she heaped on her baby that day soothed her. You can see it. That is a symptom of her profound illness.

A study in the psychpathology of this woman might have been interesting for TLC. But this rolled for years while America sat back and watched small children be harmed. All in the name of the almighty dollar.

can't stand her said...

Poogate in the furniture store was awful, especially for Collin, who looked distressed enough to need to go to the doctor. As bad as Kate's dismissal of his pain was, I found her dismissal of Jon just as bad. He was trying to keep the kids calm, minimize the destruction, and comfort Collin, who strangely, wanted Kate to tend to him. Jon was trying to hurry her up but she couldn't be bothered. He must have felt so frustrated and helpless. Again, another example of the fear and misery he lived with under the witch. Most spouses would put their foot down and say we're leaving but you could tell that wasn't an option for Jon. The director should have stopped the cameras but I guess thought it would entertain us. And as gross as the disimpaction was, thank God someone helped that boy feel better. Kate couldn't even be bothered to be embarrassed that she ignored her sick child. That kid was so distressed that I'm not sure you could assume he was just constipated. I'd worry that he had a twisted bowel or something serious based on his distress. Oh Karma Gods, please give Katie the joy of severe constipation and make sure the kids are captured on film ignoring her.

Elsie said...

1. All Mine as she points out window of new house. No gratitude or sense of wonder.

2. Rude to Steve of This Old House Fame

3. How she taunted the kids when they were in the process of getting the puppies although she had no interest in them.

Pilgrim Soul said...

Yes, I remember the knob incident. It was scary.

Jenny said...

Sooooo many unpleasant moments and so little time. Ok...everyone here has pretty much captured them all for me as well...and I completely agree! So I'll confine my "least favorite" to Kate's seeming inability to have an actual conversation with any of her children. She barks out orders and instructions that need to be complied with & obeyed immediately...and Heaven help the child who tries to discuss with her their feelings, thoughts or possibly the advantage of doing it in a different way...or maybe doing it in just a minute because I'm doing this right now. Oh no...do this my way, drop what you're doing and do it now and don't even think about having a discussion with me about it...just do it! She seemingly wants little robots to control, not children who have feelings and actual thoughts that she needs to help guide them through. I do understand that some things aren't negotiable but it seems in this family, NOTHING is worthy of conversation or discussion.

Where are the quiet moments with sweet little conversations with the girls about their thoughts, their favorite things to do and dream about? Where are the visits with the boys about who their buddies are in pre-K class, their favorite things to do and what would they like to be when they grow up? It feels like the kids are just props in the show to be manipulated into having "cute moments." Days literally filled with travel and activities and busyness is what this show has become...and it's not fun or cute anymore and if it all is wearing ME out, it's GOT to be wearing the kids out.

When she gives an instruction, she needs to stop and discuss it with them, how else are they ever going to learn the skill of thinking things through? She needs to explain her decision to them so they'll actually understand why this is the best thing to do.

Anyway, because of this particular unfavorite moment, coupled with all the others posted, I'm thinking these are just a few of the reasons J&K+8 has become our "least favorite" show! TLC needs to pull the plug and give us either a quarterly show or an annual update and let this family get some semblance of normalcy back into their lives!

readerlady said...

@ Megan - yes, I remember knobgate. I always wondered why Khate "knew" someone had removed it rather than that it came off because the threads were stripped. I've lost several cabinet knobs for that reason.

My top 5 unfavorite moments:

5) Khate ruins the pumpkin carving by insisting that the table covering be rolled up and thrown away "immediately" because she can't stand the mess (which wasn't messy at all)

4) Gumgate - silly, stupid meltdown for no reason at all. Cruelty to Collin by screaming that she's going to throw his beary away, and nastiness to Jodi, who was kind enough to take care of 7 children besides her own so Mady could go get her ears pierced and get a bit of undivided attention from her parents.

3) Cupcake gate - denying those boys their birthday cupcakes was just plain mean. Anyone with any sense would know that the kids wouldn't have much appetite after eating icing all afternoon.

2) Joelgate - abandoning a sick and miserable child on the floor of a laundry room just defies logic.

1) Collingate - getting new beds is more important than taking care of a hurting child? Utterly ridiculous behavior by someone who tries to style herself as a supermom. I wasn't too crazy about Jon disimpacting him in the back of the van, either, but at least he was trying to help relieve Collin's discomfort rather than ignore it.

A couple of runner-ups - ice creamgate, Khate's meltdown on the plane trip to Utah,toy storegate and every episode where she disrespected Jon and demeaned and diminished the twins, especially Mady.

PutASockInIt said...

Big Flap O'Hair said...
I didn't watch the earlier seasons so I know there are lots more egregious moments. But the one that turned me around was in the Gosselins Go Green episode, when Kate was whining and moaning about the horrible "project" that Steve Thomas was so thoughtlessly foisting upon them.

I SOOO agree with this! I only saw this epi last night. I could not believe the arrogance and ungratefulness of this witch. She was so dismissive of Steve Thomas (she thought it was cute) and he just sucked it up and was wonderful with the kids. She's a cold, dead, icy, fish-witch.

Clueless Katie said...

BeDoneNow: as always, another great and insightful post.

Protect 8: Excellent point about narcissists being incapable of noncompetition with even their own kids.

And you are so right: once again, in Kate's head, it was all about the twins seeing how HARD and TIRING Kate's mommy job is coupled with the lesson that Cara and Mady failed to be as good as Kate (has she overlooked the fact that she's 30 something and the twins were less than 10 years old??)

How much have you won when you've DEFEATED your own children?

How much have you won when you are an adult competing with a child? Here's an example of a situation that, when you win, you LOSE.

Though generally an optimistic person, my take on Kate is that she is hopelessly rigid, superficial, intimacy-phobic, narcissistic. In short: emotionally unstable and a poor excuse for a person, muchless a mother.

Sorry, Charlie said...

"Knobgate" was when she cursed and the production team bleeped it out, something like "I am so tired of this s__t." and she also kicked Charlie the charcoal grill down the stairs.

...poor Charlie, but at least he got out of the house.

I Love ME! said...

Jen Tru: "a Kate-centric Me-fest": WELL said, Jen!!! I like that descrption. You have really nailed it.

Come to GosselinLand, where every second of every day is a "Kate-centric Me-fest".

We said...

When Kate chomped her gum while looking for bunk beds and when the crew hung shades and she walked in
and said "Ahhh no that's not right"

Kate really doesn't possess one ounce of class.

Jilly B said...

Two of my least favorite moments came in the new house. When Jon was sitting in front of the computer pimping out State Farm or whatever it was. They weren't even trying to be subtle in their product placement, and it just showed how materialistic they had gotten.

Also, how Kate went on and on about the filthy refrigerator and the filthiness in general of the new house. I just felt so bad for the previous owners. She must have had some sort of beef with them. It felt like payback.

Ho's Hose said...

Reader Lady said, "... and every episode where she disrespected Jon and demeaned and diminished the twins, especially Mady."

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I agree, and you know what's especially sad to me? It is Mady who seems to try so hard to identify with and emulate her mom by taking charge and seeking attention, yet this very aspect seems to make Mady Kate's LEAST favorite child.

Kate seems to show favoritism to Hannah, who seems to spend her life circling in orbit around Kate. Kate is incapable of circling around anyone but herself, and the way to win what there is of Kate's 'heart' is to worship, idolize, adore, and obey her.

Pathetic.

Also: good point about the pumpkin carving. It was not messy - it was PUMPKIN CARVING. What would one expect except the insides of the pumpkins on the table? And remembering that this entire event took place in their GARAGE makes Kate's whole unravelling particularly bizarre. It's a GARAGE. WHO CARES if pumpkin gets on the floor? Kate, may I introduce you to Mr. Hose?

Susan said...

Everyone has already mentioned my "favorites" -- cupcakes, gum, poop, disney ice cream, rolling down the hill, crayola factory, Toys 'R Us...

But one extra comment about the gumgate episode. Think about when Kate was at the sink scrubbing the bear and ranting about throwing it away, and that poor boy was crying. Do you remember what Mady was doing? She was right there trying to comfort Joel (? honestly, I've forgotten which boy it was). She had her arm around him, and she was saying to Kate that "he plays with it everyday" or something like that.

Now there is NO reason that a child Mady's age should have to be in the position to be trying to help a sibling against the parent! Trying to comfort a sibling against what the parent is doing. Poor Mady.

How May I Serve You, My Queen? said...

re: The Vow Renewal: Very telling that Kate stated her favorite part of the ceremony was that, after 9 yrs of demanding this, Jon finally said those cherished words, "I promise to ask, "Kate, how can I help you?".

Always music to an abuser's ears when the abusee acquiesces all dignity, power, and control.

DISGUSTING glimpse into Abuse 101.

Mady Mayhem said...

Susan, Very good point about Mady comforting Collin.

Mady also showed much compassion when viewing the stupidly-chosen-by-the-parents movie about animals killing each other.

Mady tries hard to win Kate's affection by emulating Kate's take charge attitude. It must be confusing to a 9 year old that when Mommy is bossy and controlling it's a good thing, but when her daughter emulates her, the daughter's behavior is seen as merely bratty.

My hope for Mady is that she discovers sufficient inner strength to accept that it's unlikely anyone will ever truly have Kate's affection and approval.

JFaye said...

Every show where she:

1) Yells at Jon
2) Yells at her children
3) Disparages/disrespects Jon
4) Disparages/disrespects her children
5) The trips to California and Hawaii -- height of hypocrisy.

fidosmommy said...

I submitted my list early on, but it was rejected....so I'll try what I want to say another way. Sorry if I posted something inappropriate!

-- Kate not letting Hannah get her hair cut. Somewhere I recall that she had the girls get 3 different lengths of hair so she could tell who was talking to her by feeling the tops of their heads. That would translate: so I don't have to take my eyes off what I'm doing to see which of my children is trying to talk to me, and certainly don't have time to bend down to see what she might want.

-- ignoring one of the little boys who was trying to say thank you for his 5th birthday party.

-- chewing her gum so loudly and
openly. You are supposed to be the only person who knows you have gum in your mouth, Kate!

-- being rude to every single guest they had on the show, including Steve Thomas, Emeril,
the OCC guys, people who worked in 2 separate bakeries (4th birthday cupcakegate and Kate's Charm City
birthday), and I forget who else.

-- the Korean dinner episode is what did me in with her. Gripe, groan, mock, demean and bark at Jon throughout his cooking time.
Then, when it was all on the table she decided it was wonderful and he should do it for her every week.

-- the schlurping sounds she makes.
Oh my gracious heavenly goodness,
that is disgusting beyond words.
SCHLURP, SCHLURP! UMMMMMM! Makes even eggplant casserole sound yummy, doesn't it? Gag me with a big wooden spoon.

-- of course, Leah and the whistle.
I will never forget that poor little girl with her underwares showing for all the world to see
her mommy whack her and then blow it off as "doing what she feels is appropriate". I hate that picture.
I don't think much of the woman in that picture, either. Mean, self
serving Mommy, that was. Out of control. My heart broke for Leah
not so much that she got spanked, but because her Mommy just reacted instead of handling things in a more mature and functional fashion.

The Kate Clench said...

WE said, When Kate chomped her gum while looking for bunk beds and when the crew hung shades and she walked in
and said "Ahhh no that's not right"

Kate really doesn't possess one ounce of class."

*********************************

I agree! NO CLASS WHATSOEVER.

That time she STOOD THERE, making sure the crew used the vacuum cleaner attachment WHILE they drilled for the window shades - OMG. How insulting and demeaning.
And she had her hands clenched in that weird Kate way, while she felt compelled to oversee and, as always CRITICIZE their efforts.

If TLC believes Kate is the reason for viewers, they are as delusional as Kate. Kate is the reason I quit watching.

HBailey said...

This was the nail in the coffin for me with this show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62v82Ihuct8&NR=1

Katezilla's 15 minutes are almost up said...

I agree that the cupcakegate, knobgate, and gumgate were all bad episodes to watch.

For me, however, my least favorite episodes were the last 6 or 7 episodes of Season 5 when Jon & Kate's marriage was already kaput but pretended as if nothing was wrong. The tension between them during the couch interview was so obvious. Jon said he was spending time with his mom with her injured foot when the truth was, he moved out of the house and was bar hopping.

Cut to Emeril and the motorcyle episodes where they didn't even speak to eachother and you just knew they were over.

TLC knew very well too but for financial gain continued to film their sham of a marriage.

I just feel for the kids who no matter how young could probably sense the tension but had to act in front of the camera.

yeaisaidthat said...

The Vow Renewal

This episode would also fall under Biggest Viewer Sham Moment!

'We will never split', 'We promise to be together forever', ' In hindsight, I knew my marriage was destined to fail from the get go.'

groovymom00 said...

I agree with all of the moments mentioned so far, but what really hits me it the episode where Kate throws out the kids artwork before they even enter the house, and does it ON CAMERA! Now those poor children can actually watch it when they get older, and understand just how "throw-away" they really are. Also, in the "Green" episode it just absolutely disgusts me at how Kate can stand there chewing her gum and talking on the phone while expressing ANNOYANCE at the fact that she is getting FREE solar panels, etc. Then she has the nerve to make a snide comment on the last day about "not having to bake anymore cookies".
I think the worst thing of all is how she has to make every single episode about her, even though it doesn't start out that way. All her screaming and ranting puts her squarely in the center of the camera no matter what, and that's why she always causes some kind of "scene" or ruins an outing, she just wants to be the main focus and yelling is the way to do it. I just hope those adorable kids can eventually find their way.

Not a fan of either said...

To be honest every episode I ever watched from the very beginning made me uncomfortable, tense, annoyed, and often so very, very sad. I finally quit watching because I could not stand Kate's behavior (often Jon's as well) and I felt so sorry for the children and still do.

Aunt Chris said...

In retrospect, my least favorite moment was when I first came across a show with 8 cute little kids and their parents. I wanted to see more and I am guilty of contributing to this God-awful mess.

goawayfools said...

Susan, ITA about how inappropriate and sad it was that Mady felt the need to defend Collin during gumgate. She also tried her best to encourage the tups to eat their dinner on the cupcakegate episode where the boys, as we all know, didn't get theirs. She is far too young to have to feel the need to protect her siblings from their mother. And how touching that Mady is the one to be so compassionate when she has fallen victim to Kate's arbitrary cruelties many a time. Months ago, several posters discussed how strong-willed sensitive kids like Mady often have great potential if nurtured. They may be more difficult, but that passion can be channeled positively. For all her foibles, Mady really touches my heart. She risks punishment herself to defend her brothers and sisters even though she is the least understood by her own evil mother. She has emotional intelligence and this has gotten her into trouble as she is not afraid to express her displeasure with Kate's cruelty and injustice. Her behavior was often interpreted as brattiness when I think oftentimes she was upset with what a fake, cruel bitch her mom was/is. I think her outbursts are far healthier than Cara's withdrawal or the boys' resignation and helplessness. And I love that Jon gets her and loves her. They are so cute together.

dustilies said...

Jilly B said . . .

Also, how Kate went on and on about the filthy refrigerator and the filthiness in general of the new house. I just felt so bad for the previous owners. She must have had some sort of beef with them. It felt like payback.

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ITA! And here's another of her nasty hypocrisies. While packing up to move up out of Etown house, she has some kind of paper or wrapping in her hand. She looks at the crew and says "this is what I love about moving day!" and tosses the trash on the floor. The implication being that cleanup is now the job of the new owners.

Then in the mansion, she goes ape over that "moldy" refrigerator. Even with the camera zooming in on the cracks and seams, I couldn't see any mildew at all.

As for the mouse droppings in the cabinet, I wonder if the previous owners, having had to deal with Kate at least at the closing, planted them there to wig her out!

Seriously, if the mansion was unoccupied for a few months, what did she expect?

Rose said...

My goodness, do you have a few hours for me to post an answer to this one??? Well, to keep it short, I'll just list a few:

1. Kate chastizing Jon for not breathing right, then imitating him like an idiot

2. Kate saying how "embarrassed" she was for Jon when he told her to "pull the stick out," saying that he should have handled it totally differently, but then, when they played the Toys R' Us clip shortly after that, Kate rationalized that she was just "so stressed" and that there was nothing wrong with how she acted. That was truly painful to watch. Just looking at Jon's face...there was nothing he or anyone else could have said in response to something like that.

3. Kate saying that she needs all those nannies and cleaning ladies because "it's called survival". I was busy throwing up after that, so I can't quote it exactly, but it was pretty ridiculous.

4. The kids not getting their birthday cupcakes because, Heaven forbid, they were being a little loud, as kids tend to do.

5. Any episode where Kate whines about how hard it is to be a single mom and do everything by herself, all while she turns around and tries to justify all the nanny/cleaning services she has. So which one is it, Kate? Are you dealing with those kids all by yourself, or aren't you?

6. When the kids' private meltdowns and less glamorous moments are televised in full-close-up shots...um, yeah, that's disturbing. Makes me think about how I might feel if I knew that all my friends, classmates, and teachers had access to my at-home tantrums with the click of a remote.

7. Any episode where Kate swears that everything she does is for her kids, and that there is nothing harmful about the show when it comes to them.

Ah, forget about it. Any episode where we have to listen to Kate speak is downright tedious.

NoUse4Kate said...

I never saw the cupcake episode and finally went to youtube to watch it because it is mentioned so much here. What was the most disgusting thing, at least to me, was that the girls ate the cupcakes in front of the boys. That was nothing more than an "in your face," kind of thing. How old are you k8? Ten? Heck, I don't even think my ten year old son would do something as nasty as that to another person.

Maggie said...

One episode I haven't seen comment on (or I missed) is the one where the twins wanted to be "Mom" for the day. They were set up for failure.

Kate made them cook a very complicated lunch using the oven (why not let them make cheese sandwiches, grapes and a yogurt)?

Instead of trying to make it easy for them to give them a feeling of success, Kate made it impossible and then gloated in their failure and the fact that she was the only one who could take on such an arduous task. Vintage Kate.

not K8's bestest friend said...

Anonymous Velvet Sky said...

Cupcake episode...and there was so much more to it than just cupcakes; the beginning, on the way to CHURCH, with both Jon and Kate calling their kids 'stupid', the chewy gooey cupcake center, with all it's horrendous behavior by Kate, to the very end where Kate slams Jon for his weight and quickly deflects her slamming by shifting to a semantics lesson for Jon about referring to their lives in seasons, which she does OFTEN now.

That whole episode had so much wrong in it - not once ounce of right.

It was the biggest mess I have ever seen, and I'm not talking about the cupcake icing.
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Someone posted a link in another discussion to the recap of this episode. It said something about Kate calling the kids stupid. I was curious so I watched the episode on youtube. I completely agree with you. The whole episode is beyond sad. The pure delight and "Oh my" said by one of the boys was precious. Then you see the boys heartbroken faces when they don't get their cupcakes. The whole episode made me sad for every one of those kids.

not K8's bestest friend said...

My least favorite moments are every time either Jon or Kate belittles, mocks, or makes fun of their children. I still can not believe the things they said about their own children.

Asha said...

Ok, so I am usually a lurker but this thread was just too good to pass up. So here is my list.

1.) Kate yelling at Jon in front of all those people at Toys' R Us
2.) Not giving the boys their cupcakes for their birthday but allowing the girls to have theirs.
3.) Jon and Kate leaving their kids at home sick with Aunt Jodi so that he could get plastic surgery.
4.) Kate yelling at Jon for buying like a 50 dollar shower head and then demanding that he go an find the receipt.

Wish Kate Would Read GWOP said...

It is difficult to pick just a few least favorite moments but without thinking too much about it these pop in my head.

1. Telling the boys they are "icky" and "disgusting". Doesn't she realize that the boys will watch the DVDs?

2. Kate's behavior in gerneral. She is rude to people who are trying to be nice to her - like the cupcake ladies. She says she is a total clean freak yet she brushes the girls hair in the kitchen, cuts fingernails at the table, brushes teeth at the table, and even removed Joh's sticthes at the kitchen table. Also how she constantly corrected Jon's grammar and way of doing things.

3. The vow renewal in Hawaii. How could a mother tell her kids that the ceremony means Mommy and Daddy will stay married forever? You could feel the tension in their marriage. Even Kate said they should have run the other direction when they met. Lies, lies and more lies but it does not seem to bother Kate in the least.

I don't watch them said...

My least fav is easy. All the episodes that aired on TLC.

Now wasn't that easy?

Callie said...

Everytime I think of those beautiful kids i feel a bit sad. So very many childhood moments that should have been filled with joy and laughter were full of trepidation and silence.
on one of the earliest shows Khate lets us know how busy her days are,so very much to do! In fact she goes on to say that some days she is not even sure if she has hugged all the children that day! OMG that leaves me speechless,well almost. But since we have to watch our language here I willjust say that she is %^&*^& !

qtrfan said...

Taking pictures of the poop in the potty was WAY over the line. Kate tried to make it come across as documenting a "first". In my opinion, she was using it as one more way to demean these children.

Who in their right mind takes a picture like that?

fidosmommy said...

dustilies said...
Jilly B said . . .

Also, how Kate went on and on about the filthy refrigerator and the filthiness in general of the new house. I just felt so bad for the previous owners. She must have had some sort of beef with them. It felt like payback.

-------

ITA! And here's another of her nasty hypocrisies. While packing up to move up out of Etown house, she has some kind of paper or wrapping in her hand. She looks at the crew and says "this is what I love about moving day!" and tosses the trash on the floor. The implication being that cleanup is now the job of the new owners.

*****

Exactly right! Did you see the realtor picture of the house in
Etown? There were discarded pieces of furniture in the twins'
room, junk in the garage, stuff on the kitchen counters. Hardly pristine, and they were trying to sell this house? I would not want to even look at that house with all that Gosselin trash still in it. It's almost like they knew they would be back one day and made the prospect of buying it as unappealing as possible to the public.

fidosmommy said...

qtrfan said...
Taking pictures of the poop in the potty was WAY over the line. Kate tried to make it come across as documenting a "first". In my opinion, she was using it as one more way to demean these children.

Who in their right mind takes a picture like that?

*****

If Kate just HAD to have those "firsts" recorded, fine. I can't describe how weird that is, but anyway...... but did the TLC cameras have to film it while she snapped a picture with her own camera? I don't get it. She had the picture. Why was TLC involved in it?

The Big Wooden Spoon said...

dustilies said...
Jilly B said . . .

Also, how Kate went on and on about the filthy refrigerator and the filthiness in general of the new house. I just felt so bad for the previous owners. She must have had some sort of beef with them. It felt like payback.

*******

Her beef with the former owners? Simple -- they actually expected her to PAY REAL MONEY for the house. I'm sure Kate probably expected them to just give it to her because she is so fabulous-ish!

Oven Gate said...

Maggie said, "One episode I haven't seen comment on (or I missed) is the one where the twins wanted to be "Mom" for the day. They were set up for failure.

Kate made them cook a very complicated lunch using the oven (why not let them make cheese sandwiches, grapes and a yogurt)?

Instead of trying to make it easy for them to give them a feeling of success, Kate made it impossible and then gloated in their failure and the fact that she was the only one who could take on such an arduous task. Vintage Kate."

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Applause!! You have hit the nail on the head. 'Vintage Kate' is right!

And what's especially noteworthy is that the twins were supposed to make that complicated and use the oven lunch, when all we ever see Kate throw at her kids is organic snack food.

What a flippin' joke this whole show was.

Sail Away said...

Go Away Fools: Right on target about Kate. Very insightful observation and description. Thanks.

cdnmom47 said...

Earlier I mentioned 'Gum-gate' as the turning point for me. I do remember seeing parts of the birthday/cupcake episode, so I'm not sure which one came first.

My point is...there was something in the cupcake episode that irritated me almost as much as the boys being denied their dessert. When Jon and Kate were on the sofa talking about it...defending their decision to not give the boys their birthday cupcakes, they said that the boys forgot all about it the next day. They didn't even mention wanting their saved cupcakes (I believe they didn't even get them the next day). They said it almost smugly...as if to say it wasn't important to begin with...so unimportant that the boys 'forgot all about it'.

I doubt very much that the boys forgot about it. They might not have talked about it to their parents but that doesn't mean they weren't hurt or that it was unimportant.

The common denominator in all of these hateful episodes is that the childrens' feelings are always hurt or just plain ignored. Kate considers no ones wants or desires but her own.

Brummygirl said...

Am so upset at reading all the above as I did not watch every episode, so I will go with:

The worst thing was the day that sadistic excuse for a mother, was born!!!!

Suzanne said...

goawayfools said...
Susan, ITA about how inappropriate and sad it was that Mady felt the need to defend Collin during gumgate. She also tried her best to encourage the tups to eat their dinner on the cupcakegate episode where the boys, as we all know, didn't get theirs. She is far too young to have to feel the need to protect her siblings from their mother. And how touching that Mady is the one to be so compassionate when she has fallen victim to Kate's arbitrary cruelties many a time. Months ago, several posters discussed how strong-willed sensitive kids like Mady often have great potential if nurtured. They may be more difficult, but that passion can be channeled positively. For all her foibles, Mady really touches my heart. She risks punishment herself to defend her brothers and sisters even though she is the least understood by her own evil mother. She has emotional intelligence and this has gotten her into trouble as she is not afraid to express her displeasure with Kate's cruelty and injustice. Her behavior was often interpreted as brattiness when I think oftentimes she was upset with what a fake, cruel bitch her mom was/is. I think her outbursts are far healthier than Cara's withdrawal or the boys' resignation and helplessness. And I love that Jon gets her and loves her. They are so cute together.
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Well stated. Mady has always been the barometer of the family. Shame on the film crew, producers etc. who refused to intervene on this children's behalf.

crescent said...

Its not only that they took a photo of the actual poop, but that the kids were exploited and their privacy invaded by filming them while in the process of sitting on the potty half naked - how embarrassing for them.

Kate has mentioned that the kids bedrooms will no longer be included in any filming because the kids need their privacy.....its shocking that she didnt have the brains to realize that long before now.

Katie Irene sucks a big one said...

I found the episode where The Beast was sooooo ungrateful and rude to the dude who came to make their house green. (Sorry, I can't think of his name... Steve???) She was such an a-hole. I also found it appaling that she made such a big ass deal about being afraid of heights when Steve wanted her to go up in the lift to see the solar panels yet she had no problem stuffing her hooker heeled butt into the balloon in Florida.
Pretty much anytime Kate and her UGLY hair, UGLY mouth and UGLY disposition are on my screen, I feel really bad for the kids, Jon, America and MYSELF!

Emma's Mom said...

I stopped watching ages ago - and I will comment on my least favorite episodes...after I whittle down that "War & Peace" length book...but QUESTION!!

What on earth is cupcake-gate?! I stopped watching long ago- I can't stand that pimp *cough* sorry, er, entrepreneurial clown-car uterus mom.

What an Animal! said...

Yep, the show that did me in was the Going Green one where they got thousands THOUSANDS of dollars worth of solar panels for free and after Steve's sensible and helpful explanation of how they would save money Kate rudely snickered that all of what he had just said would be cut (because if it doesn't come from the queen of money saving who really gives a flying shizz). That was it. I realized in that moment that there was no amount of "for-the-kids-ing" that could come out of her mouth that would ever fool me into believing that she was anything more than an ignorant animal that would take any freebie offered that thought that she DESERVED to treat the givers like trash. If this is how she treats strangers on camera, I can only imagine how she treats people off camera. Ok, (deep breath), now I can calm down and get back to reading the rest of the comments.

fidosmommy said...

Emma's Mom said...
I stopped watching ages ago - and I will comment on my least favorite episodes...after I whittle down that "War & Peace" length book...but QUESTION!!

What on earth is cupcake-gate?!

******

There is a recap and a video, but somebody will have to tell you how to find both.

In summary, the tups went to a
cupcake factory, decorated their own birthday cupcakes, took them home for dessert, boys didn't eat enough dinner to suit Kate (girls
got a pass on that, somehow) and were told they could not eat their cupcakes while the girls got theirs - and ate them right in front of the boys. Sad faces, disbelief, frustration.

fidosmommy said...

OK, the time Collin was left in the dark in the bathroom.

He wasn't alone in there. If he was, we would never have seen the film of Kate leaving him there.

But turning off the light? I have to wonder how long that light stayed off, and when the cameraperson flipped it back on for him. I assume that camera person was completely safe......

Either way, it's just too weird that a little child has to sit on a potty with an audience. Did Kate put camera people on potty duty because she was too busy to wait for Collin?

We'll never know because Kate doesn't notice people, even her own children.

No Soul Kate said...

Yes fellow posters I agree about the potty being filmed! If that is what rocked Kate's boat then so be it. But why did she allow camera men and the whole world to see it? She is beyond nasty!

But let's talk about Nana Janet***
When sweet Nana J got on the pony and Kate yelled " Don't fall we need you" was very telling. If Kate had a heart and a caring bone in her body she might have said "Don't fall Nana because we love you"

Narcissus said...

There are SOOooo many but---mine would have to be the Toys R Us behaviour. She actually questioned Jon outside at the van, totally CLUELESS as to "why was he mad at her?" I was stunned. SHe sounded completely , sincerely confused. Thus, this illustrates very succinctly why she is a narcissist to the core: she truly does NOT NOTICE anyone else. She truly did not even notice JON'S discomfort and embarrassment, and in fact, was subsequently befuddled by it.
This episode alone speaks volumes.

We said...

When a few of the tups came down early from their naps and Kate made them go back to bed for 45 minutes!

I understand about rules but 45 minutes is too long. How about 15-20 minutes?

GoPoshGo said...

I have nothing to add to the list, as you all have covered the horrors of the show quite thoroughly. My comment is: I hope Jon copies this thread and uses it as "Exhibit A" in the custody battle. For every argument Kate's lawyer makes, all Jon's attorney will have to say as a rebuttal is, "Let's go to the video, your honor."

Melissa said...

The cupcake episode, no question. The way she huffed and puffed and acted like such a diva while at the cupcake shop, completely raining on the 'tups birthday parade. Then to deny the boys their own birthday treat - there is no excuse for that. None. Kate is shameful.

readerlady said...

@ Aunt Chris - don't beat yourself up over having watched the show. We all watched it at some point and some still watch. The important thing is that we've all come to the realization that the show is toxic and detrimental to the children. We wouldn't be on GWOP, commenting, praying at night for the safety and well-being of children we've never even met, and trying to educate others on the evils of reality television.

go away gosselins said...

The episode where Jon is putting together the "bunkbeds", and Kate wants him to stop, so the kids will take a nap.

When she actually claps her hands together and yells at Jon as if her were a bad dog...

Jon needed to throw cold water in her face, whenever she yelled at him like that. It would have made him feel good, and put her in her place.

Not a fan of either said...

One other thing. Something I hated more that anything was when Kate made her ugly faces when describing something the boys had done or one of the boys had done. Like Aaden slurping. When she does that her face is so ugly she looks evil. I can't stand it.

BTW. Speaking of the Etown house. I think it is very telling that it hasn't sold yet. Even with a reduced price. No sane parents want to live in a house that was once so filled with Kate's hatefulness. Kate thought it was going to sell like a hot cake.

go away gosselins said...

Of course the fit throwing and screaming at the crayola factory. Not letting the kids color with markers, or do anything fun at all.

Who is going to make some Youtube videos of these moments? It would be a hit.

Snickers39 said...

Oh my...so many to choose from. Cupcakegate, Gumgate, Joelgate, Collin's impacted bowels at the furniture store, one of the girl tups (can't remember which one) being denied a bagel, ToysRUs. The one that infuriated and disappointed me most of all was the one where Jon took the tups for a walk in the woods at the new house. Ironic how he was telling the boys to walk like a man when he wouldn't stand up and act like one himself.

dustilies said...

fidosmommy said ...


Did you see the realtor pictures of the house in
Etown? There were discarded pieces of furniture in the twins'
room, junk in the garage, stuff on the kitchen counters. Hardly pristine, and they were trying to sell this house? I would not want to even look at that house with all that Gosselin trash still in it. It's almost like they knew they would be back one day and made the prospect of buying it as unappealing as possible to the public.

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I haven't seen the pictures, but wth would any realtor put those kind of pictures up as an advertisement? I would think a realtor would say "hire a cleaning service." Then, after two reminders, drop the listing. Or if s/he wanted it very, very badly, hire the service or do it herself (remember American Beauty: "Today I WILL SELL THIS HOUSE" and then the realtor strips down to her slip to clean?)

Another bizarre aspect of GosselinLand that doesn't match with reality as WE know it.

SaNdY said...

Narcissus said...
There are SOOooo many but---mine would have to be the Toys R Us behaviour. She actually questioned Jon outside at the van, totally CLUELESS as to "why was he mad at her?" I was stunned. SHe sounded completely , sincerely confused. Thus, this illustrates very succinctly why she is a narcissist to the core: she truly does NOT NOTICE anyone else. She truly did not even notice JON'S discomfort and embarrassment, and in fact, was subsequently befuddled by it.
This episode alone speaks volumes.
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I have 2 comments about the Toys R Us fiasco....First, did anyone else notice that when Katie Irene waltzed out of the store to the van, she said something like: 'Oh, my car is wating for me...' in a weird totally fake English accent?? Anyone have a clue what that was all about?? She ripped Jon a new one a few minutes ago in the store, and she acts all nicey when she comes out....unbelievable! Second: I have to give Jon credit for telling her exactly why he was upset when she came out(and he had every right to be upset!!), she did notice that he was upset, and she ALMOST seemed to get it, that what she did in the store was unacceptable behavior, even though she brushed it off as 'I don't notice anyone when I'm in a store', an absolutely ludicrous excuse when you embarrass and hurt someone you 'love' in public....I so wish Jon could have called her on her behavior each and every time she belittled him...but yes, I know, it would have taken up ALL of his time....

Sail Away said...

Go Away Gosselins said, "The episode where Jon is putting together the "bunkbeds", and Kate wants him to stop, so the kids will take a nap.

When she actually claps her hands together and yells at Jon as if her were a bad dog...

Jon needed to throw cold water in her face, whenever she yelled at him like that. It would have made him feel good, and put her in her place."

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That one REALLY bothered me, too. Once again, no one's feelings mattered but her own.

Can any of us imagine someone barging in the middle of something Kate is doing and DEMANDING she immediately stop?

And the way Kate always dismissively flaps her hands to indicate just how absolutely insignificant others (and their feelings) are to her.

Just so wrong on so many levels.

Sail Away said...

Does anyone else remember the episode (don't recall what the basic theme was) that included running errands and Kate was pressuring Jon about hurrying up so he could be home to 'help with the kids'. He got annoyed and basically told her that he, too, had things that needed to be done, and Kate's response was to act all needy and pathetic about "will you promise to come right home to us?" (paraphrasing). Really struck an off chord with me and I'm just wondering if anyone else recalls this?

There was at least one other instance where Kate made some remark about Jon's leaving - WAY before they were upfront about having a nonmarriage - once the kids were crying when Jon left to do errands, and Kate offhandedly said something to the effect of 'they cry like this every time Jon leaves - like he's never coming back. What do they know that I don't know?'

Anyone remember these?

ABadViewofKate said...

I have read all the comments and I am surprised the ONE that started it ALL isn't mentioned -

When the friends, family and the church came in a decorated the tups nursery and when she saw it how ungrateful she was. It was ridiculous how she couldn't even say a nice thing about it when everyone worked so hard [and I thought it was adorable].

That was the beginning of the end for me.

Also anyone remember the "yard sale" for charity [yeah, right] - when she tried to get rid of all of Jon's Dad's stuff or the girls' ornaments given to them by their grandpa because of "dustlies"?

I won't go into to details of the "gates" as everyone has done such a descriptive job but they were the worsteast of worse in Kate speak.

MickeyMcKean said...

Emma's Mom said...

What on earth is cupcake-gate?!

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fidosmommy said...

There is a recap and a video, but somebody will have to tell you how to find both.

In summary, the tups went to a
cupcake factory, decorated their own birthday cupcakes, took them home for dessert, boys didn't eat enough dinner to suit Kate (girls
got a pass on that, somehow) and were told they could not eat their cupcakes while the girls got theirs - and ate them right in front of the boys. Sad faces, disbelief, frustration.

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Just so happens that I saw this episode earlier today. Found it on youtube, under J&K+8 season 4 ep 4 tups turn 4.

What I would like to add to the above is that they drove 75 miles to this bakery and I was impressed as to what the owners did for the family - store was opened only for them and they also gave each twin a larger cake to decorate versus them doing the "baby" stuff.

Jon and all the kids were having fun but Kate would not allow them to have a cupcake there at the shop AND have a second one to take home. However, the twins were allowed to eat a cupcake there.

Kate was also complaining about they could not get dirty because they were in their church clothes and she brought up laundry stains and how Jon does not do the laundry.

Jon did say that one day she will regret not letting them have fun on this day.

But in all fairness to Kate, and I hate that I'm kinda sorta backing her up here, it should be noted that when Kate and Jon were on the couch talking about their dinner rules, Jon backed Kate up. IMO even if eating dinner before dessert is a rule, it was still their 4th birthday and if for some reason the boys do not remember this particular birthday, what happened that night is on DVD and youtube forever.

So for the record Cupcake-gate would be on my list of least favorite moments.

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

Thought of the coupon episode after I posted. That one really made me cringe and I've always wanted to throw something at Jon for allowing himself to be talked to like a four year old, on national television to boot!

emmasmommy said...

WOW! Got a Minute!!!!!

Her dismissal attitude towards Collin really ticks me off.

1. The infamous bunk beds episode. Poor baby was in serious PAIN. In my mind I was thinking..You A$$ do something at least acknowledge his presence.
2. When he hit his head HARD exiting the airplane. She told him that God had punished him for not listening to Jenny.
As a Christian I was disturbed by her comment. Now this 4 year old needs to watch his back from God. Another thing, as a mom myself I would not exit a plane before my children, nanny or no nanny. PERIOD! She basically handed her "most unable to conform her way children" to Jenny for her to deal with.
3. Turning off the lights on him and telling him to sit there until he pees. He could have strained himself if he pushed and pushed for something to come out. Who knows maybe that was a result for his constipation.
4. The way she chewed him out for the tiny speck of gum on his favorite comfort toy. If that would have been Hannah, Leah, or the other obedient boys there is no way that would have occurred.
5. Always describes him as stubborn. No matter what other positive thing she might say. She always has to point out that he is after all stubborn and has a big head, of course with a big brain.
Kate, you idiot! How about his willingness to learn, or how he has the cutest smile. Or how when he is away from you he still tries to respect your sick obsession with not getting his clothes dirty. A 4 year old should not have to worry about that, but yet he is smart enough to remember and remind his brothers of your rule. Yet she ignores to see that.

I do not know why but her dismissiveness towards Collin is sad. I have not watched since season 3. From then I gathered enough footage to realize that Collin does not seem to care for his mother. He seems to wonder off or keeps to himself a lot. Can anyone who have watched reason seasons tell me if Collin and Kate seem to have a slight bond?

Laurie said...

I agree 100% with everything posted so far. Also a least favorite moment of mine (although not on the show) was when she denied water to Mady and then got a bottle and took a drink herself.

debemac said...

4. Kate threatening to throw out one of the boys' special "lovey" because it had gum on it
3. Cupcakes denied the boys on their birthday
2. Joel sick on laundry room floor
1. Colin crying with a fecal impaction for his mother's help and being ignored while she shopped for beds.
Notice a pattern here...all these truly evil things were done to her sons. She is not a fit mother.

lisa k. said...

All of them...but the one that stands out the most would have to be...The furniture store where Collin was totally ignored by his greedy Mother, because she was way to busy picking out more merchandise to even acknowledge the little guy had a serious health condition!!

We said...

Remember when Kate was going somewhere with a few of the kiddos and she made Jon shag things to and fro? Later she tossed out a pair of shoes in the driveway.

AshleyInNC said...

Along with ALL of the other moments listed, a few come to mind that involve the Gosselins getting free things.

First was the Gosselins Going Green episode, when Kate made some comment about how long and boring the man's explanation was. God forbid, he MIGHT have been using her show to gain a little business for himself and to promote the whole "going green" thing. Maybe the explanation wasn't just for her! Even if it was, could you imagine being so rude to someone that was giving you something FREE?

Along those same lines was the woman that organized the basement, and I can't remember exactly what was said to her but she was SO rude. I just couldn't get over that. Once again, someone does something for her for NOTHING and all she does is b*tch about it.

I believe it was Nana Janet, when they were bringing around Christmas cookies, when Kate griped about her "long stories" or something to that effect. For goodness sake, she just wanted to be nice and show the kids some attention. Sorry if it interrupted your plans, Kate.

The kitchen remodel in the new house - remember how they were nice enough to put everything back, and first thing she did when she came back was go through all her sh*t and complain how it wasn't in the right place? Worry about that later, but right now you should be thanking the people who once again did something for nothing to help YOU.

Lastly, how DARE she say that she used to "hate" her fans. Oh. My. Gosh. Her fans she "hated" were the ones that supported her and her family for the first few years of her children's lives with their love offerings.

I know it's well past this point, but I wish this woman would show some respect and not bite the hand that feeds her. What an idiot. If she acted anything like a human being that gravy train would still be going full speed.

Sheesh.

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

"One would think that even if you didn't love a child, common decency would at least prevail upon you to place that child in a bed, with covers, and that you would keep an eye on him.

This particular moment exposed Kate's cruel streak and her (dare I say?) pathological dislike for her own son(s). You know she would never have done that to one of the girls."

I've always felt, from the first episodes, that Joel was her least favorite of all the kids.

SaNdY said...

Sail Away said...
Does anyone else remember the episode (don't recall what the basic theme was) that included running errands and Kate was pressuring Jon about hurrying up so he could be home to 'help with the kids'. He got annoyed and basically told her that he, too, had things that needed to be done, and Kate's response was to act all needy and pathetic about "will you promise to come right home to us?" (paraphrasing). Really struck an off chord with me and I'm just wondering if anyone else recalls this?
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Yes, I believe this was the Going to Disney World episode....Katie Irene was getting her 'hair done' and Jon met her there so they could exchange vehicles...she kept bugging him about being exhausted, asked him to get the trailer tomorrow, etc, etc...it was obvious that he was just barely able to hold it together, told her that he had a list just like she did, etc....
One thing that has always bothered me in the earlier episodes, when I think Jon was actually working, Kate could barely wait till he got home ( I believe he had a killer commute, too) to take over, give the tups their baths and tuck them into bed, etc....all this after a full day of work and drive home, she had no clue that he might be tired from work, she just expected him to take over when he got home...but in one of the very early episodes (the one where Jon tells her to take the stick out) when she was working that Saturday, she made sure that she mentioned that she was working that day...obvious double standard, but not to her, I'm sure...

goawayJandK said...

All the "gates" are forever in the Gosselin Hall of Shame, I will instead try to list some of the oft forgotten but still really hard to watch scenes :

1) K8's attitude about-almost-selling ornaments Grandpa G had given the twins. Mady was so upset, only then did K8 say she could keep it.

2) K8 in the OBX telling little Joel that he couldn't help with the flag cake that K8
"invented". The camera then pans to show Joel walking down the staircase by himself, very sad. Just thinking about that scene still makes me so sad for him.

3) K8, the self-proclaimed germaphobe, standing BAREFOOT on the gas station platform on the way to Disney

4) K8 being her normal rude self and dismissing the conductor of the train when he was trying to give the family a little history of the venue

5) K8 having balls the size of Jupiter when trying to snag a free boob lift in addition to the free tummy tuck

6) K8 being too ill to go see the kids' first ski lesson in Utah but then by Divine Intervention she was well enough to go to the spa with Beth

7) St Jude epi when K8 handed out copies of Multiple Ble$$ings and DVDs to those very ill children

8) The vow renewal where they lied to the kids over and over about "Mommy and Daddy being together forever"

9) Continuing in the Maui trip - K8 was such a diva and basically demanded that the boat owner sail around for another 2 hours , all on TLC's dime of course

10) Painting with pudding, 'nuff said

boys like blueberries said...

re Collin: just a random thing but when they were visiting some zoo I remember Jon stating that if she pushed C off on him one more time, he was going to leave. it's there somewhere i just don't know where.

Jas said...

Oh Man!

The cupcake incident is one that broke my heart! I haven't watched ever since then. It was horrible. There are so many moments that made me want to stop watching, but it was a train wreck! I couldn't help myself. But I did stop after the cupcake one and the constipation episode.

And I know it has been said before, but man she wasted all that time on the fridge that she just replaced the next day with a brand new one? I mean come on! She will look back one day and realize what she did. Watching her makes me a better parent as I strive to be nothing like her!

Tami said...

When she was made to stop slapping Jon and instead she started passive aggressively rubbing his face and talking baby talk. Ugh. I wish the floor would just swallow her up.

Also when she forced him to get rid of all his possesions and then talks baby talk when he says he misses his dad.

Geri said...

emmasmommy said...
WOW! Got a Minute!!!!!

Her dismissal attitude towards Collin really ticks me off.

(SNIPPED FOR SPACE)

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At the tups' 5th birthday party, Collin kept trying to tell Kate "thank you for the party" (I assume one of the crew put him up to it but maybe not)..she was totally ignoring him until it was brought to her attention by another mother. She just does not seem to notice his existence. I feel really bad for him.

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

Oh yeah; I didn't like the way she left Colin in the dark to pee either; criminy; what a way to potty train.

And I HATED the way she used to smack Jon.

See, there are just too many BAD KATE MOMENTS to remember them all!

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

"Does anyone else remember the episode (don't recall what the basic theme was) that included running errands and Kate was pressuring Jon about hurrying up so he could be home to 'help with the kids'. He got annoyed and basically told her that he, too, had things that needed to be done, and Kate's response was to act all needy and pathetic about "will you promise to come right home to us?" (paraphrasing). Really struck an off chord with me and I'm just wondering if anyone else recalls this?

There was at least one other instance where Kate made some remark about Jon's leaving - WAY before they were upfront about having a nonmarriage - once the kids were crying when Jon left to do errands, and Kate offhandedly said something to the effect of 'they cry like this every time Jon leaves - like he's never coming back. What do they know that I don't know?'

Anyone remember these?"

I do. The first was just before they left for Disney World; it was actually a moment I LIKED as Jon stood up to her!

We H8 K8 said...

My least favourite episode? Wow, there are so many, but the infamous one where K8 threw out her son's comfort object because it had a little gum on it. There are many ways to remove gum, you know. How does she live with herself?

On a side note, what does "-gate" mean? I've been seeing it a lot and am wondering if I missed something along the way.

hmm said...

Anytime she sucked the fun out of a situation in order to direct the attention back to herself

hmm said...

Megan said...
worst for me was an early episode - the tups look so young. Kate found a knob that had been removed from a drawer and literally SCREAMED in the tups faces to determine who took the knob off of the drawer.
I couldn't even watch the whole scene because it was so disturbing.
Does anyone else remember this
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You forgot to mention the part when she flung a toy grill down the stairs.
Yep the kids were scared stiff and they sure knew how to deflect- the girls blamed the boys and the boys balmed "nobody"

hmm said...

3. Kate being utterly dismissive of the kids in the epi where they are fighting about something and she is being interviewed and then looks at the camera and says "Ugh." Pesky kids. (Why can't I remember which epi this was? I think I even wrote the recap!)
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5th b-day episode. SOme kids came to report that they were locked out of their bedrooms and could not change for the party.
The look she gave the camera after being disturbed and ignoring the kids was UGLY.

THis was a clip on the SOUP

hush said...

BTW. Speaking of the Etown house. I think it is very telling that it hasn't sold yet. Even with a reduced price. No sane parents want to live in a house that was once so filled with Kate's hatefulness. Kate thought it was going to sell like a hot cake.
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who would want to buy a hosue that Kate complained was too tiny, small, etc

She ahd such a good opportunity to market it on tv

goawayJandK said...

On a side note, what does "-gate" mean? I've been seeing it a lot and am wondering if I missed something along the way.

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Just a play on Watergate. Any infamous scene/epi is dubbed
XXXgate .

Marie said...

uneasy said...
Any moment where Kate was dismissive, cruel, rude, or abusive to her kids... four or five times in each and every episode.
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I agree wholeheartedly and would add: where Khate was dismissive, cruel, rude, or abusive to her husband as well.

Callie said...

Another least favorite of mine is a Jon moment. He and Khate were discussing Mady & Cara and for some reason he called Cara "homely"! And Khate tries to explain it away by saying Jon has a problem with "vocab". And to think all these moments make up what Kahate says they wanted-videos of all their family moments...

jennifer said...

The bed buying episode is the last one I watched. Like everyone else has described I was just traumetized watching poor Collin crying, hanging out of the back of a dang VAN...meanwhile the rest of the kids were running wild in the bed store while
Kate sat and looked in a catalog. That was completely horrible to have to witness. What's soooo sad is Khate has been allowed to get so much worse since that was taped.

Kat said...

We H8 K8 - The "gate" reference is just a takeoff on the Watergate scandal with Nixon. Since then, "xxx-gate" has been used to describe some sort of scandal or illegality or fiasco.

Brown Bear said...

When Jon and Kate took the twins to New York City to see American Girl and Mady announced that she didnt have to much fun because Kate talked to me.

Rachel said...

We H8 K8 said...

"On a side note, what does "-gate" mean? I've been seeing it a lot and am wondering if I missed something along the way."

I think it's a reference to "Watergate" which occured during Pres. Nixon's time in the White House. Am I right here...?

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

Yep, the winner is........
igorned impacted bowel while Khate shops the catalogues for bunkbeds! ARGH

talk about cruel and inhumane...
what a biatch

Duckman said...

I've forgotten more of the low points than I can remember, but I do remember the visit to St. Jude's being the thing that turned my irritation towards Kate into hatred.

That was really low-class of Kate (and also TLC) to turn the visit into a guerilla-marketing campaign for that frakkin' book and that bloody CD she supposedly played constantly while on bed rest. Yeah, that's the way perk up those kids' spririts. They had to be thinking "WTF?" to themselves as Kate was handing out her crap.

Standard Kate - not a sincere bone in her body.

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

And lest we forget, the chef getting smacked w/the famous Wooden Spoon! And when Jon said,
"Can you believe this is our hundreth?" He said, "I don't know how you made it."

Terra said...

A couple of things I might believe if Kate wasn't such an obvious liar and narcissist:

When she has her meltdown on the plane, I can somewhat sympathize. She's probably just doing it for attention, but plenty of people have a moment where they break down on vacation. Travelling is stressfull, even if you're jet-setting Kate.

When she was sick the first day in Utah, but fine the next day, I might also be able to believe that. Altitude sickness can hit hard, but if you drink enough fluids and rest, you can easily be acclimated by the next day.

But like I said, the woman lies too often and too consistently for me to be able to believe these were genuine occurrences. I guess if she's ever really having a difficult time of things, no one will believe her (see Boy Who Cried Wolf).

If kate told the truth she would explode said...

hmm said...

Megan said...
worst for me was an early episode - the tups look so young. Kate found a knob that had been removed from a drawer and literally SCREAMED in the tups faces to determine who took the knob off of the drawer.
I couldn't even watch the whole scene because it was so disturbing.
Does anyone else remember this
++++++++++++++++++++++\
You forgot to mention the part when she flung a toy grill down the stairs.
Yep the kids were scared stiff and they sure knew how to deflect- the girls blamed the boys and the boys balmed "nobody"
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And when she tossed the toy down the stairs I am telling you to watch her lips. she says...sh*t but the sound is edited out. Makes me wonder how many times she swore and they had to do a retake.

Vanessa said...

Someone posted that Kate felt a 'bit' of remorse in the Toy-r-us episode, when they are loading up the van.
She asks if Jon's angry with her. THAT my friends was because the cameras were on. Remember in the beginning, there were little hints of WHAT she was really like? But she would "try" to bite her tongue or kind of laugh it off. She had treated him like this before, she knew she had embarassed him. But now there were cameras recording, she had to try and do some back-peddling. Those were the days when she "tried" hard to come across differently (we all saw through that crap) but as the show went on, she started to get "positive" feedback from the sheeple. Now, not only did SHE think she was justified in acting this way, but thousands of others thought so too. After that, she didn't even bother to play nice for the camera, every show got worse and worse, more deplorable from one to the next.

logical said...

the other one that irratated me was the one where kate said alexis had to help clean the girls room when she had already banished the poor girl to the basement because she was a 'bat'. yes help hannah and leah but you cant sleep up here. and all the while she's yelling at jon about it.

winston said...

Mine was when they went on about how horrendously horrendous Mady's teeth are...making immature faces and gestures, meanwhile pointing out that Cara's are just fine.

Just the kind of thing everyone wants their friends/bullies to see. There are just so many awful ones, my mind is racing...ice cream gate was pretty bad.

winston said...

OK one more...how about when they are getting ready to shoot those fall pictures, and they are in Beth's foyer. Kate is sitting on her ample duff bossing Jon around like there's no tomorrow about bringing the clothes in and where they are to go, etc. Here's an idea Kate, if it's that important to you, stand up and do it! Also, that same day when the photographer gives them that picture that features only the tup babies w/ KON, totally leaving out Mady and Cara. I think that would be hurtful to anyone at any age. Could he not find a picture that featured the entire family to present? My heard ached for those twins.

I Love Me said...

Geri said, "emmasmommy said...
WOW! Got a Minute!!!!!

Her dismissal attitude towards Collin really ticks me off.

(SNIPPED FOR SPACE)

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At the tups' 5th birthday party, Collin kept trying to tell Kate "thank you for the party" (I assume one of the crew put him up to it but maybe not)..she was totally ignoring him until it was brought to her attention by another mother. She just does not seem to notice his existence. I feel really bad for him."

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And when Kate finally acknowledged the kids saying 'thank you for the b'day party', she somehow managed to make it all about HER again, as she spoke to the camera saying something like, see, they realize what I've done for them.....

A House is not a HOME said...

Jas said, "... she wasted all that time on the fridge that she just replaced the next day with a brand new one?"

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I couldn't believe it either that a) she made such a big deal about cleaning a'fridge (& managed to insult the previous owners in the process - so very Kate-ish)

b)they replaced the very nice appliances (and cabinets) so soon after the big deal they made about Kate working so hard to clean the refrigerator

c)and this is the biggest one: Moving your family to a beautiful new house could have been such a memorable, fun day - first day in a new HOME, so play together, walk the beautiful grounds, have a picnic - celebrate your family and celebrate that this is where your new memories will transpire.

But no, not Kate. The kids' memory will now include Kate cleaning a refrigerator and demanding the kids stay out of the master bedroom 'under penalty of severeness'.

Kate, The Fun Killer.

readerlady said...

@ Callie

Jon didn't call Cara "homely", he called her "homey", meaning she's a homebody.

Zero Insight said...

How about when Kate was explaining how much Cara is like her: a good teacher, helps the kids, etc.,(all good, of course) while Mady is like Jon in that her emotions are explosive because she holds them in too long (all bad).

Kate really believes she's better than everyone else ever created. Amazing, the depth of her delusions.

SmartyQ said...

Joelgate—I remind all of you that at least two potties were kept in the laundry room. Jon is the only one who empties said potties, and he was then working. Thus, Joel was stuck on the floor of the laundry room with two smelly potties about three feet from his head.

At the Crayola Factory—QFI sent Mady to a bench for misbehaving. Jon was sitting on the bench, and after a talk with Mady, gives her permission to return to the craft area. QFI has a fit, puts her face into Mady's, insults her in a quavering voice (that's supposed to be an imitation of Mady's voice) and drives Mady back to the bench by advancing toward her. Mady was not given the chance to explain that Jon had given her permission to return.

Small moments but telling
• QFI was told that Hannah weighed more than Collin. She demands they re-weigh both children because Collin has a big head; ergo, he must weigh more.
• Jon and QFI making fun of Joel's lisp. This is from a woman who says 'are' for 'our,' 'ohways' for 'always, 'buoys' for 'boys' and 'sammynella.'
• QFI proclaiming herself as 'medical personnel.' Yet, she didn't know if Aiden was near-sighted or far-sighted.
• 'Daddy's mean,' and 'Daddy doesn't care about your safety.'

Collin said...

Emma's Mommy said, " ... Can anyone who have watched reason seasons tell me if Collin and Kate seem to have a slight bond?"

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I think it's Collin who tends to help Kate round up toys at the end of play time.

His 'thanks' is that he is deemed 'My Helper Boy', showing once again that the only way to Kate's "heart" is to orbit around her and obediently serve her needs.

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

"On a side note, what does "-gate" mean? I've been seeing it a lot and am wondering if I missed something along the way."

Gate as in Watergate...you might be too young to know about that; it involved President Nixon.

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

"Emma's Mommy said, " ... Can anyone who have watched reason seasons tell me if Collin and Kate seem to have a slight bond?"

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I think it's Collin who tends to help Kate round up toys at the end of play time.

His 'thanks' is that he is deemed 'My Helper Boy', showing once again that the only way to Kate's "heart" is to orbit around her and obediently serve her needs."

Yes, Collin has always seemed to be Kate's favorite of the boys, due to the fact that he is so need and orderly and helps her clean up the toys. Joel is definitely the least favorite (of all the kids IMO).

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

"But no, not Kate. The kids' memory will now include Kate cleaning a refrigerator and demanding the kids stay out of the master bedroom 'under penalty of severeness'.

Kate, The Fun Killer."

Very good point; she could have returned another day to clean the fridge (off camera maybe?).

I will always remember that episode as "Who pooped where?" Ugh They could have edited that out!

Brummygirl said...

Have not seen this one mentioned, maybe I am repeating but how about not going with Cara to the doctor's when she complained her foot hurt as Kate was filming *family game time* and also knowing her foot had hurt for some time. Oh yes, she eventually went to the hospital and griped about it.
I think my blood pressure has risen reading all about Kate's mistreatment of her children!!
She should be boiled in oil....organic of course!!!

marge said...

My least favorite is the home video on Christmas morning they did of themselves before they were married.
That was just creepy and said so much about Kate's personality and the dynamics between them even then.
That video makes me think Kate isn't the the one alienating people from thier lives....they can't stand her and flee!

Callie said...

Readerlady- I am almost sure Jon called Cara homely because immediately kate said "how can you say that?" where he said something about Cara"s hair always being in her face. Then kate said to the camera that Jon always had a problem with vocab. Just saying what I heard.

fidosmommy said...

More, I'm remembering more!

They were making their plans to go to Disney. Kate had a hair appointment and had driven the larger van that Jon had been told to use to go pick up the large trailer they needed to pack. Kate was running late, and Jon didn't know where she was. He called her. Then she wanted him to "wait until the morning" to go get the trailer because she was getting her hair done. They were leaving by what, 8:00 a.m. the next morning, and she wanted him to get up, take care of children, no doubt fix her coffee, drive off somewhere to pick up a trailer, drive it home, pack it to her specifications, and be ready to drive hours upon hours with her and 8 children in the car - all by 8:00 a.m.?

All because she didn't consider Jon's time to be valuable and did consider her hair appointment to be of primary importance.

When she and Jon met at the beauty parlor parking lot to switch cars,
she wanted to know if he liked her hair blonde. I don't think he gave a flying care at that point.
But she wanted confirmation from him of how she had spent time.

Notice, it wasn't her fault in any way. It was Jon's for not being cooperative enough to do all this the next morning. Unbelievable, woman, unbelievable.

Addison said...

Cupcake Gate (and I mean the whole entire episode, not just the part where the boys didn't get their birthday treats) will always be the worst IMO. Such an unhappy "birthday celebration."

Niki said...

"Come and get your popcorn" gave me nightmares (even though I only saw it on the commercials).

Angel1 said...

I think that poor Joel on the laundry room floor, and poor Colin when they were at the furniture store have to be the top 2 for me.

Zayna said...

I've tried to get through all the comments and I agree with those that I read as some of the worst moments.

But the one that struck a chord with me, where as I watched my heart literally sunk into my stomach, was about Mady.

It was the Globe Trotters episode and Cara had gotten picked to get out on the floor and be part of the show.

After her bit, Cara went back to the family and Kate starting fawning over her like she had just won the Nobel Prize.

Poor Mady was behind Kate trying to get her attention. Mady called her, screamed and even tapped Kate on the shoulder.

Nothing. Kate didn't even so much as turn around to even look at Mady.

Later in the episode when the Globe Trotters came to meet the kids and take pictures Mady was still visibly upset and still being ignored.

Broke my heart. I mean seriously, it's one thing to accept a certain amount of sibling rivalry and deal with it appropriately, it's a whole other thing to outright ignore and encourage it.

At this point, cameras or no cameras...those poor kids.

she is evil said...

Re: homely. Cmon now, guys, Jon is the sweet one, remember? I think he used the wrong word when he was trying to describe Cara in that picture. I think he was trying to say that she looked less glamorous and posed than Mady, who was hamming it up. No way do I believe that his intent was to say Cara was ugly because 1. she isn't and 2. he wouldn't say it even if she was. He was just trying to say that she didn't take a good picture IMO

PennaLadyGammie said...

Jon DID call her homey, as in, she was just more natural like, not showing off like Mady was, posing. He did not mean anything offensive by it.
And when they went to Disney they left later in the day, after dinner.

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

I don't think Jon meant Cara is homely as in ugly. I think he meant the way her hair always hangs down in her face, she looked that way for the picture, whereas Mady is more vain and mugs for the camera (Mady is the one more into fashion, etc. and Cara is into sports/outdoorsy stuff).

Anyway, Cara's cute; not even close to being homely.

Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

Each posting is accurate as it describes the hatefulness of Khate.

How about the fact that she never let them do ANY messy activity at THEIR house? --- yet TWO pudding paintings, with hands all over the walls and windows, at rented (luxury) vacation houses???

Am I the only one who remains offended at the way she treated Emeril (a certified celebrity) with her rudeness and smacking w/the spatula? I savour his comment to Jon re. "I don't know how you made it." (to 100 episodes)

Midnight Serenade said...

"Gate as in Watergate...you might be too young to know about that; it involved President Nixon."
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I would certainly hope that anyone, high school age and older, who has studied United States history, would know about Watergate. "Gate" tacked on the end of a word has come to mean "scandal," such as Clinton's Whitewatergate mess.

KyPastor said...

"Jon: (reminiscing about Family Portrait Day) Mady posing, like a supermodel pose, like keeping her arms in her weird, contorted way. And Cara's just homely, and her hair--

Kate: Did he just call her...did you call her homely?

Jon: You know what I mean. I don't know what to say.

Kate: Cara's not homely!

Jon: Well, her hair comes down."

I don't know what the heck he is implying

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Nor will any of us know, because Kate INTERRUPTED him before he got his thoughts out.

Kate and Jon Suck said...

I think Jon was referring to her "hairstyle", which includes her hair over her face. Who could blame her? She just wanted to be left alone, more so over the last year.

Honestly, Cara is beautiful, tall and lean, and has a very attractive face. Who cares if she hid it from the cameras with her hair? I might have done the same in her situation with constant cameras. Of course, the "parents" never got this.

Kate and Jon Suck said...

But no, not Kate. The kids' memory will now include Kate cleaning a refrigerator and demanding the kids stay out of the master bedroom 'under penalty of severeness'.

Kate, The Fun Killer."

Very good point; she could have returned another day to clean the fridge (off camera maybe?).

I will always remember that episode as "Who pooped where?" Ugh They could have edited that out!
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Kate also admitted in a clip, that they had NOT brought any toys for the kids. What exactly did she expect them to do? But of course Kate was more than anxious to get her "Mine, All Mine" house filmed, again with absolutely no consideration by the parents of exactly what the kids would do for HOURS with no toys/TV in the new house for hours on end. All about Kate once again, screw her 8 children.

fidosmommy said...

One Least Favorite was when Jon told Kate to get the stick out.

It was Kate's reaction to it that
irritated me. It's part of Kate's nature to say nasty things to people and to demoralize them, preferably in public. You would hope someone who could dish it out so gleefully could also take a little taste of it herself. Not so, in Kate's case.

Maybe that's another sign of Kate's social dysfunction.

CappuccinoLife said...

I would say her temper tantrum in season three is what turned me off completely from the show.

That was the time when they were all outside, and Jon was biking with the older girls, Kate was in her chair. I can't remember what got her going, but she ended up *screaming* down the street to Jon about what a bad father he was for biking ahead of the girls, then she went back in the garage, took his jacket, threw it on the floor, and stomped around angrily making ugly remarks about him.

I had to pick my jaw up off the floor before I could get up to turn off the tv.

Sail Away said...

I'll bet it was an interesting conversation between the two guys who got stuck hanging Kate's living room blinds in the ETown house.

DEMANDING people to drill and vacuum at the same time is RUDE by itself, but then standing RIGHT there to make sure they did it right (no one ever satisfies Kate anyway, so why bother standing there except to criticize)- just a glimpse into what day to day life is with this woman.

BIG DEAL - a little drywall dust to vacuum up should've been No Big Deal for Can Do Kate. But every freaking thing in life is somehow more difficult, more exhausting, more stressful to Our Little Katie than it is for any other human on the planet.

jonandkatewho? said...

Every show had ugly moments. My "favorite" ugliness about the show is any and all poop-centric episodes.

Collin at the furniture store. Not only was he in pain, but the camera focused in on his little butt as he walked away in the other direction as if to explain to all of us that his butt was the problem. Kate is so stupid. She could have given him a suppository, done something, but she chose to go ahead and drag those kids to a furniture store.

Any episode containing poop or potty training ... those kids were sitting outside on those potties in one episode.

These poop episodes really made me sick, especially the one where Kate took a photo of a first poop. It disgusted me anytime they focused in on poop.

Highly inappropriate of TLC to film this stuff and then show it.

Totally inappropriate for parents to let this happen.

jibberjabbers said...

It's a lot easier to say the best or memorable moments from the show are either with Jon with the kids or just the kids alone.

I don't think Kate has any memorable moments with the kids beside Alexis saying "hi mommy" when Kate went thru a mid life crises and had some things done.

Every episode is the same. Jon is either dressing the kids, playing with them or putting furniture together.

Kate is either yelling, screaming, throwing a temper tantrum, or giving orders. Maybe cook here and there.

Judy said...

Anonymous Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

Each posting is accurate as it describes the hatefulness of Khate.

How about the fact that she never let them do ANY messy activity at THEIR house? --- yet TWO pudding paintings, with hands all over the walls and windows, at rented (luxury) vacation houses???

Am I the only one who remains offended at the way she treated Emeril (a certified celebrity) with her rudeness and smacking w/the spatula? I savour his comment to Jon re. "I don't know how you made it." (to 100 episodes)
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No, you're not the only one offended by that, but I'd like to add that it showed gross disrespect and/or ignorance not to address Emeril as "Chef" or even "Chef Emeril," and letting the kids just call him "Emeril" was disrespectful too.

About the pudding painting, I remember that episode. I nearly choked when Kate said something like, "What do I care? It's not MY house." What gall!! I know I was taught to respect others' property maybe more than my own and moreover not to be a pig. This woman is classless and a real PIG.

JustJenz said...

How about the clip where she refused to give her kids any water and then proceeded to drink right in front of them! All of this while they were *not working* and doing an interview.

Then there was the time right when they moved into the new house and she told her kids to never set foot in the master bedroom. Nice loving mom huh?

I just could not believe it said...

I agree with all of the ugly moments described above, but there’s another one that I haven’t seen mentioned. I can’t recall which episode it’s from since I saw it on YouTube. In any event, Kate was in the Etown garage sitting on her white plastic throne with each of her arms around a sextuplet. Having run out of arms she decides to rub Collin’s face all around his eyes, nose and mouth with the bottom of her bare feet (how gross!), all the while cackling that she wished that she was an octopus so that she could touch all of her brood at once. I could not believe it! She won’t let her children walk on a motel floor without shoes, but she’ll rub the bottom of her bare feet up against the face of her child. Does anyone else remember this? It was so totally wrong on so many levels! Of course, Kate probably thinks the dirt on the bottom of her feet should be packaged and sold for big bucks to all of her fans and that Collin was lucky to get the first Kate dirty foot facial. What a total narcissist.

20/20 said...

I haven't seen this one mentioned yet. The episode where it's discovered Aaden will need glasses. Kate is asked how she felt about this and she says "I don't know... I guess I just want my normal little kids to be just that- normal."

For the love of God, the kid only needed a pair of glasses. You only need to watch one episode of Table for 12 and see little Rebecca to know how lucky Kate & Jon were to have all six be healthy.

Khate's intolerance, her obsession with physical perfection and keeping up appearances is, IMHO, some of her top worst traits.

Carrin said...

Whew! My blood pressure is raising just reading these posts. Yes, they are all plain awful.

We have read that a new crew or part of a crew had replaced the old, original crew.

I can't see how any one person from any of the crews could have gone through the motions of taping this family for any length of time.

I don't think I could have done it. I would have been long gone after trying to stick up for the kids or for Jon once too often.

How could any crew stand to go to work every workday?

Shame on Kate. Shame on TLC. Shame on Eileen O'Neill. They are ALL rotten!

BobS said...

Having suggested the topic, I suppose I should get my least favorite moment in here.

I nominate the moment where K8 emasculated Jon in the Toy Store Incident in Season 1. For whatever reason, K8 yelled at Jon from across the store repeatedly in front of everyone. It wasn't just the fact that she yelled at him, it was the critical and demeaning tone of voice she used when she vocalized. K8 tried to explain that her voice seemed loud because of her microphone. Later Jon left the store and tried to explain to her how embarrassed he was because of the way she had yelled at him in the store. It seemed that K8 blew off how he felt. But then she has done that throughout the whole K8&K8+K8 show.

Sissy said...

Selfish Kate said...
SaNdY- Even back then, Kate chose to take all 8 kids to the bed store, so they could do filming, even though Collin was obviously in distress. Wouldn't it have made more sense to leave most of the kids at home with Jon, especially Collin? But the show must go on, and Kate had to get that filmed with ALL kids regardless. One of the reasons many of hate this show. Never mind she took her sweet old time in selecting new beds. Oh Kate just sucks to no end.

11/14/2009 10:03 AM

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I have always wondered if the beds were donated, so the store got a bit of free publicity.

Why did they deserve so much? said...

Kate has mentioned that the kids bedrooms will no longer be included in any filming because the kids need their privacy.....its shocking that she didnt have the brains to realize that long before now.

11/14/2009 3:37 PM

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I feel certain that not filming in their rooms came about because of the posts complaining about the kids lack of privacy.

When they moved to the new house, they filmed in much less area of the house. Probably also in part so as not to let the world see the enormous home these beggars got.

Sidney said...

Megan said...
I agree with all of the above posts - Disney, coupon, ToysRUs, etc

The worst for me was an early episode - the tups look so young. Kate found a knob that had been removed from a drawer and literally SCREAMED in the tups faces to determine who took the knob off of the drawer.

I couldn't even watch the whole scene because it was so disturbing.

Does anyone else remember this?

11/14/2009 11:04 AM
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Yes, we all remember that episode, for sure. That crazy woman. Those poor little kids. UGGH!

But, after Kate left, wasn't Collin's cute little dance just so fun to watch! It was the only cute thing on that episode, for sure!

Brummygirl said...

How is it that we all get what Kate is like, yet people other than the sheeple still cater to her? Is everyone on T.L.C.'s payroll?

As Barbra Streisand would sing:

"Sheeple, silly gullible Sheeple,
They are the "stupidISH" people in the world.
Takes one person, one very narcisstic person,
To sway their impressive minds,
Hide all the sense inside,
Glad I'm a GWOP wouldn't swap, for a Sheeple!!!"

Button Button said...

I hope Eileen and Kate read these posts tonight.

We all got pretty upset remembering how gross so much of Kate's actions were and are.

How in the heck did they allow Kate to run her family off the track this way?

She destroyed their family.

Absolutely disgusting!!

Sail Away said...

Brummy Girl: love your lyrics! LOL when I read them. Catchy! Thanks for the laughter.

Whut?? said...

I Just Couldn't Believe It: YES! I remember that one clearly because I was still a (dumb) viewer then.

And Kate bragged, "Very often I do this," as she rubbed her dirty feet on her small kids.

How ODD for a professed germophobe who refuses to let her kids walk barefoot on a hotel room carpet to brag about rubbing her dirty feet up and down her children.

Seriously, what is WRONG with this woman?

Teen said...

I felt so bad when little Joel was crying on the slopes of Utah.

fidosmommy said...

Sidney said...
Megan said...
I agree with all of the above posts - Disney, coupon, ToysRUs, etc

The worst for me was an early episode - the tups look so young. Kate found a knob that had been removed from a drawer and literally SCREAMED in the tups faces to determine who took the knob off of the drawer.

I couldn't even watch the whole scene because it was so disturbing.

Does anyone else remember this?

....wasn't Collin's cute little dance just so fun to watch! It was the only cute thing on that episode, for sure!

*****

Oh my, I had a completely different take on Collin's dance!

I saw it as a terrified little boy trying to shake off his fears, and absolutely delighted his zombie mom had finally left the room without creating further damage to their little psyches. I think he expected somebody was going to get a whacking from the woman who seemed to love that knob more than she loved the 6 little faces shaking in fear. I think if he hadn't danced, he would have vomited or gone to clean something.
He needed to de-stress!

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

Zayna, I didn't notice that at the Globetrotters game; I just noticed Mady being very quiet. I thought Cara got picked because she's the athletic one. Mady doesn't like sports.

Mona said...

I bet Kate was never a Girl Scout.
She would have learned one of the cardinal rules in Scouting is to leave an area even better than how you found it.

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