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Geri said...

I had an "epiphany" tonight about Kate. I always wondered why she wears those very high heels every where and to the bus stop no less. I was looking at the most recent pics of her picking the kids up at the bus stop and it occurred to me that she wears them to make those kids look shorter, i. e. younger standing next to her!

So Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

Does Radar lie or does Jon get more ignorant as the days go on?

How I wish he could have listened to some sage/reasonable advice months ago rather than have ruined his image as a wonderfully caring father. Guess that's what happens when you cut off your friends and family.

THANKS KHATE.

Wooden Spoon Lesson again, Jon.

TeriA said...

Everytime I think about this family I'm reminded of a documentary I saw years ago about the Dionne quintuplets. The stories are shockingly similar. I hope the endings are not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionne_quintuplets

Missy's Mom said...

Anybody hear the news that Jon is now countersueing TLC for $5m for smearing his name and contacting other media, not allowing them to have access to him? Here's the link. It's on CNN.com:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/11/13/jon.gosselin.sues.tlc/index.html

brennie said...

I am totally confused: J&K's contract with TLC runs until Feb 2010. Are they still being paid or did the income stop when the filming stopped? Does Kate have to share her income with Jon until the divorce is final?

NoUse4Kate said...

So Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

Does Radar lie or does Jon get more ignorant as the days go on?


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Radar lies, they get so many things messed up. You would think it would be embarrassing for them, but they don't seem to care. I've even seen the nit-wits there correct them on things they have posted. (some chick being a princess vs. ROL reporting she was the homecoming queen, other things as well) But alas, when it comes to JG these same morons believe whatever ROL prints. They really are a dumb group of people. I can read about 3 comments and my blood begins to boil so I just shut the page.

Anne said...

I'm behind the times and just caught the photo of the errand running/bus stop pick up shoes. $350 four inch heels for running errands!! I'd love a full accounting of how much this practical, penny pinching mom has spent on her own shoes in the last six months. And how many of those shoes were bought using coupons!

Thousands of dollars that could be saved for the kids future again being used for Kate's vanity.

High Heels Scam said...

Geri: Bingo! I think you are exactly right. Using the sippy cups, the bibs, the highchairs, not teaching them things children
their age should know. All part of her ongoing scam to make them look younger.

Also, I think she feels bigger and "badder" w/ those heels on, and thinks it improves her squat-like lower half.

Radar is in bed with TLC said...

Of course Radar lies... they get paid by TLC to spread the pro-Kate propaganda and to keep her in the limelight. By the same token, they exert a considerable amount of energy bashing Jon - They state every rumour as fact, and repeat the same allegations until the majority of the followers believe them. All their Gosselin posts get 20 times more comments than anything else, and either they have BabyMama on their payroll, or the TLC interns have to post 100 times a day.

Shocking! said...

Kate herself explained why she wears the high heels on one of her shows. She said, and I quote, "I wear these heels because they make me look thinner." That is how stupid and shallow she is.

BTW. Regarding those who post on ROL. One woman (girl) said that she just LOVES Kate's "heals". She used the word 'heals' over and over to describe Kate's shoes. Actually, reading those comments gave me an epiphany. Most of their pro-Kate comments contained poor grammar and tons of misspelled words. It made me realize that her supporters are as ignorant as she is. I had always wondered what kind of person would support her. GWOPers might hit a typo now and then and of course we misspell a word of two, but we are basically high-class and well-educated. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

For the Moment? said...

I would imagine that most of Kate's fans (sheeple) identify with her in some way, in that they see a part of themselves in her. That is pretty much human nature I think. Based on the ratings for Monday's episode I would say there are about 1 million of them. The 0.6 were probably people who were curious w/ all the publicity, and a few people like us who used to be fans of the show who thought they were going to show maybe some of our favorite clips (wathed the clips). If there are 1 million of them they are not strong enough to help her carry a show, and are probably diehards from day one and it is not likely they would be able to recruit any newbies.

fidosmommy said...

Anne said...
I'm behind the times and just caught the photo of the errand running/bus stop pick up shoes. $350 four inch heels for running errands!! I'd love a full accounting of how much this practical, penny pinching mom has spent on her own shoes in the last six months. And how many of those shoes were bought using coupons!

Thousands of dollars that could be saved for the kids future again being used for Kate's vanity.

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How many pairs do we see a second time?

I think buying shoes is Kate's stress reliever, or one of them anyway. If you know about compulsive shopping, that's often a trigger. You shop, you buy, you feel better. Problem is, the feeling doesn't last and you have to go shop some more. Pretty soon you have a closet full of your stress reliever, and you still feel bad. And you worry about the bills coming in, adding to your stress, because you've told everyone you're pinching pennies.
The bills are your proof you're not and you're a scam in progress.

That's when you go yell at your kids or hit them for blowing a whistle. Or berate your husband.
Or blame a friend for things going wrong in your life. Or ask for a TV interview to cry about how tough things are.

Then you go and buy more shoes.

Heels on a Pig said...

Shocking! said, "Kate herself explained why she wears the high heels on one of her shows. She said, and I quote, "I wear these heels because they make me look thinner."
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And, by the same logic, does she wear hats to look smarter?

Lipstick on a pig, Kate.

Matt said...

I almost wish the show was still going. An idea would be to have Kate suddenly decide to homeschool the 8. Can you imagine the entertainment factor in that? Then again the kids would learn nothing....

dustilies said...

I agree with everyone about these shoes Kate's been wearing since the spring. Her comment that they make her look thinner seems like a misunderstanding of the kind of advice that Stacy and Clinton (What Not to Wear)give on lengthening a leg line.

I've always been curious about why there hasn't been a crossover with WNTW--probably Stacy and Clinton flat-out refused to work with such a notorious, narcissistic bitch!

Query: I don't wear high heels, so I'm asking those who do--are they dangerous to drive in? Like could a four-inch stiletto get caught up in the workings of the brake or accelerator pedal?

Geri said...

Shocking! said...
Kate herself explained why she wears the high heels on one of her shows. She said, and I quote, "I wear these heels because they make me look thinner." That is how stupid and shallow she is.

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I've formulated my own theory as to why she wears those heels. They make her look much taller than the tups, whom she wants to appear as young/babyish as she can.

goawayJandK said...

Query: I don't wear high heels, so I'm asking those who do--are they dangerous to drive in? Like could a four-inch stiletto get caught up in the workings of the brake or accelerator pedal?

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dustlies (love the handle even tho it resulted from yet another biatch moment of K8's)-

I wear high heels mostly when going out and if I am driving ( usually home since I don't drink LOL) I can honestly say that I take my shoes off ! Much more comfortable, probably safer too =)

goawayJandK said...

I would imagine that most of Kate's fans (sheeple) identify with her in some way, in that they see a part of themselves in her. That is pretty much human nature I think.

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The interesting thing is that, at least for me, I also can identify with some of K8's behavior ( strong personality, need for order, etc) but watching K8 has made me REALLY think about how I parent.

The sheeple idolize or mimic her behavior because for whatever reason, they don't see anything wrong with it , like K8.

I, on the other hand, see her behavior as what NOT to do as a parent.

she is evil said...

I never thought Jon was ignorant. Kate, yes. I think a lot of his bad legal decisions stem from desperation. I think he's panicked that his income has dried up and savings are being held ransom by greedy Kate. He also realizes that Kate will not cut him any slack if his financial situation doesnt turn arounf He is correct in that he would have difficulty fitting into the normal workforce, but if he did go back to college, do IT work, etc, the craziness would die down eventually if he wanted it to. I do not understand all the bimbos. Even though he is separated and technically not doing anything wrong, he does know Kate is vindictive enough to try to use his behavior against him in order to have full control over the kids' lives. What a travesty that would be. Seriously, as much dirt as you know about Jon, wouldn't you still prefer him as a parent over her? Even if she winds up fabulously wealthy and him not?

Snerk said...

I am totally confused: J&K's contract with TLC runs until Feb 2010. Are they still being paid or did the income stop when the filming stopped?

Entertainment contracts are by the episode. The money stops when the filming stops.

anyone agree? said...

Maybe I'm just cynical, but does anyone think Kate underfeeds those kids to keep them more marketable? An obese child would not charm as easily, I'm sorry to say. Also, looks better to have skinny kids if she really goes thru with the Organic Kate bullcrap. I actually think the boys look unhealty, weary and anemic. Based on Kate's childhood photos, I'd guess those kids would fatten up easily if Kate actually allowed them to snack and eat typical kid food (burgers, fries, mac and cheese and yes, the occasional Dorito). And I think that the kids' weights correlate with their standing in Kate's f--ked up head. The ones she favors or at least tolerates (Hannah, the twins, Leah) all seem to have more meat on their bones than Alexis and the boys.

Jenny said...

I totally agree that ROL & TLC are in it together! I'm guessing that TLC feeds ROL information as to scheduling so ROL can get their cameras there to get some shots. And then it seems like in all their reports about Kate, they have these glowing comments such as, "Kate out running errands and enjoying the sunshine." And right after that, they embed a link entitled, "See photos of Jon out drinking with Hailey" or "See Jon partying with babes in Las Vegas." Give me a break...they couldn't possibly make it any more obvious whose camp they're in!

Also, we've all seen the photos of Kate picking the kids up at the bus, especially recent ones where she looked angry, had the kids stand all in a row and be quiet, etc. Those shots even prompted some discussion here about what a horrible way that is to greet your children after they've been in school all day. Then all of a sudden, I notice in the very latest photos of Kate on ROL (one used here of Kate in her pink top) that she is all smiles, and even patting two of the kids on the head, kissing them and looking for all the world like a loving mom.

You know it got me thinking...I'm wondering if TLC has their people come to this blog to pick up on some of the things we're all saying is so junky about Kate and then using that info to correct the image of Kate, you know, to get folks back on her team again...hence the photos suddenly appearing being all smile with the kids. Anyway, that's just a guess on my part but it sure looks suspicious that she looks so mean and hateful to her kids in the photos and video clips that it all gets discussed here then all of a sudden, out of the blue and totally UNLIKE the Kate we've all come to know and see on a regular basis, we get photos of her being all smiles and kissy with the kids. I wouldn't put anything past TLC at this point. It's truly all about saving the "brand" that is J&K+8.

JFaye said...

dustilies said...

I've always been curious about why there hasn't been a crossover with WNTW--probably Stacy and Clinton flat-out refused to work with such a notorious, narcissistic bitch!

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This is a rhetorical statement, I hope. Kate Gosselins listens to no one. Stacy and Clinton would be in a battle to rival World War III for control.

Control Issues At Play Here said...

Anyone agree? I think you are right, that there is something definitely f'd up about Kate and food.

At one pediatrician visit, she RUDELY made the nurse reweigh Hannah - Kate refused to believe that Hannah outweighed Collin, historically the largest tup.

Kate's weird overall control issues coupled with the food thing (including her bizarre ideas about ONLY ORGANIC) make her kids susceptible to eating disorders later in their lives.

And we've all seen how demeaning she was to Jon about his weight, even while he was working on it.

Sadly, it will not surprise me at all if anorexia/bulemia is not on the Gosselin horizon.

fidosmommy said...

Jenny, you can bet the rent that someone associated with TLC or even the Gosselins themselves read GWoP comments. More than once things have changed after being chewed up here. My personal favorite is the way Kate changed the way she held the kids' arms when walking with them after GWoP
tore into her about that. Like magic it was. She has also pretty much quit steering them by holding their heads when they walk.

MomIAm said...

Speaking from experience, I doubt Jon has much chance at an IT job at a big company. A small company might hire him but my guess is that it would partly be due to his celebrity status. Jon is 32. He has not kept current. He spent the last several years raising his family with no other thought for their future than the show. I have little idea of his background, but isn't he more of an amateur? The world has changed. Even if he goes to school now, it will take a few years to get his degree. He may think he can get an IT job but with the current economy and other more qualified, trained people available, it probably not possible.

GoPoshGo said...

Has anybody else read Jon's ridiculous claims in his latest affidavit?

"Now, I find myself unemployed and without the ability to secure non-entertainment related engagements because the enormous Media interest, cameras, reporters and public interest makes it impossible to carry on normal daily activities, let alone find, secure and maintain a job with an employer who is willing to be exposed to the daily Media intrusions that has impeded my life."

So, if I understand this rambling non sequitur correctly, Jon is whining to the judge that his only career option is in entertainment because of media/paparazzi attention??? THEY'RE preventing him from job-hunting?? THEY'RE the reason a potential employer would not take him on?? THEY interfere so much with his daily life, he can't possibly do an effective job search?? Is it just me, or is this the lamest excuse for NOT looking for work??

Perhaps Jon can't secure a real job because he hasn't even tried to find one. And, let's face it, he doesn't really want one. Like Kate, Jon is addicted to the money and lifestyle, and does not want to go back to being a regular citizen.

So he blames the paparazzi. So incredibly lame. I hope the judge makes him produce a pile of "rejection letters" as evidence of any effort to actually secure employment.

Read the want ads, Jon. Put a resume and cover letter in an envelope and mail it. Unless the paps are interfering with the US Postal System (which I highly doubt, as that is a Federal Offense), your application will reach the company you are applying to. Quite a simple process, Jon.

Or, you could just admit the truth: You want to continue the lifestyle of the rich and famous, and are simply looking for an excuse NOT to work in the real world.

Oh, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention your severe lack of qualifications to do much of anything. That could be a stick in the spokes of the whole process. Shall we blame your lack of ambition, skills, and experience on the paparazzi as well?

goawayfools said...

Kate's story is like the movie Rocky. How did this unremarkable, forgettable bitch of a woman:
1. Manage to find a sweet, good looking son of a generous dentist and have him fall in love with her?
2. Talk him into going along with her ridiculous plan to get rich by having high order multiples even though he wasn't into the idea to begin with?
3. Manage to have all these unfortunate kids and not have him hate her for it plus get him to do most of the work?
4. Treat him horribly and not have him hate her or hit her?
5. Have sextuplets with no obvious health problems or retardation?
6. Land a reality show and boatloads of sponsors despite hateful and ungrateful behavior?
7. Manage to be praised for her mothering skills when the show displayed for all to see that she was an unfit and unloving mom?
8. Be praised as a best selling author and land tv hosting gigs despite being borderline illiterate and a big f--king liar to boot?
9. End her marriage to a man who should have left her years ago and wind up being seen as the victim by some?
10. Not be beaten, egged, booed, or killed by someone?

I so don't get it

TeriA said...

With eight kids I don't see any reason for Jon to find a job. Let Kate work and support Jon and the kids. If the genders were reversed no one would blink about it. Plenty of divorced parents are supported by the working spouse while they raise the kids.

Of course that would mean Jon would need to STAY HOME and actually raise the kids.


On the paparazzi... does anyone belive they just "show up" anywhere but their home? Especially at PA shoe stores in strip malls? Someone in the Jon/Kate camp CALLS them. Count on it.

Sail Away said...

Can anyone provide a link for Kate throwing the twins' things down the mansion stairwell?

Thanks in advance.

thpeaky said...

Go Away Fools
WOW! you really nailed all the things that have LONG bothered me about this show. HOW could anyone take this awful woman seriously?
Why would anyone want to watch this show.. ie their artificial lifestyle? It's NOT about 8 little kids exploring their world and growing up (which is what it SHOULD have been)
Why would anyone WANT to see this inarticulate, disingenuous, hateful wench on ANY media outlet?
Beats me...

Not a fan of either said...

There is something I've been wondering about. I read somewhere that when Beth wrote Multiple Blessings it originally was advertised as having been written by Beth and Kate. Then just before publishing Kate added Jon as one of the authors so that Beth would only get 1/3 of the profits instead of 1/2. Jon's name is on the book so why does he say that Kate got a bundle of money from the book she wrote. Shouldn't he have received some of that money?

goawayJandK said...

One arena in which I DO think Jon could be successful and happy is something sports related.

Another poster (sorry, it was a while ago, but you get the props !) mentioned Jon getting a job as an instructor at a ski resort.

Not exactly the brightest bulb, but Jon is known to be very friendly in general and he loves snowboarding( actually, all sports).

Doing something like this, he feasibly COULD have a career that didn't involve the kids in any shape or form, he would be good at it, and it would give him SOME degree of his manhood back (working a real job).


K8, on the other hand, needs to find a job that doesn't rely on the kids or telling lies about the kids or herself. Thus far, K8's "work" has been nothing but a cross-country self-pity tour of lies, lies, lies.

show description said...

thpeaky said...

It's NOT about 8 little kids exploring their world and growing up (which is what it SHOULD have been)


11/14/2009 5:48 PM

I had never heard this before as a description of the show...even originally.

I thought the premise of the show was how the parents coped with twins and sextuplets.

not a lot said...

Not a fan of either said...

There is something I've been wondering about. I read somewhere that when Beth wrote Multiple Blessings it originally was advertised as having been written by Beth and Kate. Then just before publishing Kate added Jon as one of the authors so that Beth would only get 1/3 of the profits instead of 1/2. Jon's name is on the book so why does he say that Kate got a bundle of money from the book she wrote. Shouldn't he have received some of that money?

11/14/2009 6:19 PM

This was so long ago. I think Jon got his share of that money. I think it all went into the family account and they used it for the new house etc.

There is no way either of them could have saved out and hidden any money the way they spend.

KB said...

Let me preface this with I'm not trying to defend Jon, but I can understand his potential problem with getting hired.

In the current media circus, I think anyone with a business would be crazy to hire him. His presence would bring interruption, distraction, and drama to the workplace. It's attention most businesses and companies wouldn't want, unless of course they were ROL and any other like media outlet. I've seen businesses fire employees for creating drama or bringing their personal drama to the workplace. Until all this disappears, and that includes TLC and particularly Kate bashing him and dragging everything out into the open, his chances are really slim to none.

I asked a couple family members who own and run their own business and companies of various sizes what they thought. Their response was that the markets tough, but that aside, he'd bring drama and unwanted publicity that could jeopardize their own companies reputations.

Based on Kate's history of behaviour I'm sure she would only create problems for Jon at any job he had, including doing something like speaking out against the company he would work for.Come to think of it, whoever he worked for would have to pay health insurance for them all, could you imagine that!?! Kate would be crying or screaming, crying and screaming that whatever they provided (and even if they could provide nearly everything) that it wouldn't be enough. Who would want the hassle of that? It's not just taking Jon, they'd be getting the Queen Bee herself as well!

Jon's in a Catch 22 scenario. Kate's going to make everything difficult for him whatever he does or doesn't do.

Brummygirl said...

Oh My Gosh, I was searching for the youtube when they moved into the new house but for some reason, this interview came up.
This was obviously just over a year ago and knowing what I know now, just about every word Kate uttered was a totally complete lie. Not sure if any of you saw this, but it good for a laugh!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZqRewkc5CM

GoPoshGo said...

KB said...
In the current media circus, I think anyone with a business would be crazy to hire him. His presence would bring interruption, distraction, and drama to the workplace.
[snipped]

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If Gary Coleman, who was one of the biggest child stars of the eighties, could land a job as an inconspicuous security guard, a D-list celebrity like Jon Gosselin can surely get a job SOMEWHERE. I'm not buying the "he's too famous" for employment BS.

Hey, he's got lots of experience in childcare -- perhaps a wealthy family could hire him as their "manny."

GoPoshGo said...

Brummygirl said...
Oh My Gosh, I was searching for the youtube when they moved into the new house but for some reason, this interview came up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZqRewkc5CM

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OMG -- how much did K-mart pay her for THAT plug??? Kate uses their lay-away plan???? There's nowhere in the McMansion to hide the gifts from 16 curious eyes???? She plans her meals around the grocery store sale fliers?? Funny, and here I thought she planned her meals around the Craft Service Table.

Lies. lies. and more monotone lies.

Laurie said...

Another reason she wears those 4" heels is because she towers over Jon when in them thus reinforcing her superkate image. She's the same size (maybe taller)as Jon when barefoot.

franky said...

Brummygirl said...

Oh My Gosh, I was searching for the youtube when they moved into the new house but for some reason, this interview came up...
Not sure if any of you saw this, but it good for a laugh!!
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I um..think I did, Umm ( wringing hands) but I umm..forgot (K-MART!!!)..what you said..um...what was the question again, um? Oh yeah..St. Judes, Um, yeah, I have a charity swinging legs..go to KMART !!

Um..sorry for rant, but umm, kinda had to =)

Midnight Serenade said...

"Read the want ads, Jon. Put a resume and cover letter in an envelope and mail it. Unless the paps are interfering with the US Postal System (which I highly doubt, as that is a Federal Offense), your application will reach the company you are applying to. Quite a simple process, Jon."

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All ten want ads? I have never, in decades, seen the unemployment section of the newspaper in this area as thin as it has been the past eight months. There is nothing there, and it doesn't appear to be getting better. For the first time since I can remember, the newspaper has opened up a separate "unemployment" section for people desiring work. There are many more ads from the unemployed than there are from companies looking to hire.

That said, he will never get a job. From whom would he get references?

Skeptical Viewer said...

Not A Fan Of Either said, "Jon's name is on the book so why does he say that Kate got a bundle of money from the book she wrote. Shouldn't he have received some of that money?"

Yes, he would've received some of the money.

But I think the notion that the book made "a bundle of money" is another J&K lie. Most authors don't make nearly as much money on their books as the public thinks they do, and J&K are more prone to bragging than most.

Tami said...

I was almost positive that Jon and Kate started up filming again at our YMCA today. I was riding the bikes next to my daughter and a really loud woman sat down next to us. There are signs saying not to be loud and annoy people but most of the time no one does it anyway. But this one had her headphones on so I guess she thought she needed to scream since she couldn't hear herself.

I assume the guy with her was her very henpecked husband but the way she talked to him and ordered him around he could have been a paid employee like Steve! Not only did she order him around but she tried to get other patrons off the equipment. She complained about how some of the bikes faced the sunny window and some away from it and asked someone on a bike if she was almost done so her husband could sit down. Then she sat there watching and waiting and repeating the woman was almost done with it to intimidate her I guess! He sat down and she proceeded to shout detailed plans about what she is going to do on Monday, telling him she is going to "take his Monday from him" because she had all these plans. It was so embarrassing and TMI and he was so umcomfortable. Finally he mumbled, "I don't understand why you are doing this" and she yelled that it is the only way she can get him to listen to her because she would never pay attention otherwise. He eventually got up to slink away and she was left there alone kind of in a huff because she had no one to yell at. Hate would have loved her! I was sooo uncomfortable with the whole thing. I can just imagine what the people around her feel on a daily basis.

Tami said...

Thousands of dollars that could be saved for the kids future again being used for Kate's vanity.
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That is it exactly. I could never spend all that money on myself without thinking about the family and wondering about all the other things the money could be used for instead. I could see if someone had millions to blow and were not on the verge of being employed like Hate, if they did not live off their kids or if they were single and had no one else to worry about, maybe buying these shoes however ugly they are. But not in her situation and not when she pretends to be a money saver. She is just gross.

Jsut My Few Canadian Cents said...

Not a fan of either said...
I read somewhere that when Beth wrote Multiple Blessings it originally was advertised as having been written by Beth and Kate. Then just before publishing Kate added Jon as one of the authors so that Beth would only get 1/3 of the profits instead of 1/2. Jon's name is on the book so why does he say that Kate got a bundle of money from the book she wrote.

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I didn't know this. So, Jon is just as much a "best selling" author. If he's worried about employment and finances, he should do a book tour! And he should tour with Beth. And Rabbi Shmoulley (sp?) could moderate. That would be interesting.
But joking aside, if Kate had in fact screwed Beth out of her profits by adding Jon's name, then it just shows how much of a classy lady Beth is for not speaking out. It also shows how disgusting Kate is. And TLC was worried about Jon's behaviour scaring off adverizers!

Can't Believe End is Near said...

I'm seeing a significant decrease in the number of photos, mag covers, interviews, tabloid pictures and stories of Khate and Jon.

There was so much talk here and elsewhere about the show being cancelled, poor Khate, bad Jon, etc but it seemed that even those stories also had a life of their own.

And now, I'm seeing hardly anything! I find it extremely interesting and quite amazing. I never thought this would end. I guess I figured Khate would figure out a way to drag it on forevvverrr-ish.

Am I sad. NO! But I do wonder what will life be like for those eight kids with no one to watch over them.

Someday, there might not even be a need for a blog like this. Wouldn't that be nice? No kids in danger and need of protection or rescue?

I sure hope some kind of national legislation comes out of this to protect children on TV.

KLeeKlly said...

Okay so normally Kate contradicts herself... but I was remembering something she said a while back and was comparing it a few things she said in the viewers choice (yeah right) episode and I there were so many contradictions, I seriously felt like my head was about to explode.

I seem to remember this gem a few months back that Ms. G said...."Very swiftly, we turned into two different people, and that’s just hard. I’ve tried for six months to figure out what the problem is, or remedy the problem. It’s so complicated.”

Very swiftly you and Jon turned into two different people? But dear Khate, I thought on the last episode that aired you said that Jon changed and you've remained the same person over the past 10 years?

But then if you remained the SAME person and have NOT changed at all, how can refer to your bad behavior as being something the "old Kate" would have done? How can you make comments that you would never act that way anymore and you "learned so much from it"... wouldn't that imply that you changed?

How can one person contradict themselves so many times on the same subject and not realize it? You're giving interviews for pete's sake, at least try to remember your basic stance on things the next interview around. Oh but I forgot, you're Kate Gosselin. Things don't have to make sense. Silly me.

konhasyoufooled said...

Brummygirl said...

Oh My Gosh, I was searching for the youtube when they moved into the new house but for some reason, this interview came up.
This was obviously just over a year ago and knowing what I know now, just about every word Kate uttered was a totally complete lie. Not sure if any of you saw this, but it good for a laugh!!
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I just watched the clip and lo and behold Kate's ummm...boobs are umm..normal sized. I guess they grew with each lie she told!

KB said...

GoPoshGo said..."If Gary Coleman, who was one of the biggest child stars of the eighties, could land a job as an inconspicuous security guard, a D-list celebrity like Jon Gosselin can surely get a job SOMEWHERE. I'm not buying the "he's too famous" for employment BS."
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I was not and am not saying he is "too famous" for work. Perhaps it is that he is rather infamous. I agree with the Gary Coleman point, but when he sought that job there was not a media circus around him like there is around Jon at the moment. And at least Gary Coleman has showed that he can hold down a job and actually work, even if it was as a child actor. Just a funny point, could you imagine Jon in a security job, he needs protection himself at the moment.

Someone made the suggestion of Jon being a snowboarding instructor which I thought was a great one. Or there is always the really good idea of him staying home (and actually staying home) to raise the kids so Kate can do "her thing," whatever that is!?! At least with him the kids interact and receive genuine affection, they're not afraid of their father, like they are their mother.

Jon is capable of getting a job -sort of - it depends on if he actually puts effort into it, my point was more, and I think I made it in the rest of that post, that I can understand the obstacles he faces at the moment. He's been out of the loop for awhile, but my point was more that even if he was actively searching for something of the non-entertainment route, something more normal and everyday, that he's going to face difficulties for a few reasons.
1.Has not kept up to date on a lot
of things.
2.The market is awful right now,
for the majority, including IT
people, experience aside.
3.With him comes (at the moment)
drama.
4.We all know Kate would have to
put her 2cents in regarding
wherever he works and what they
provide or don't provide for the
family.
5.A business, company, employer
will likely not want the drama
or scrutiny involved with hiring
him.

I think for most employers hiring someone like him at this point in time is more of a liability. When the media coverage around him dies down a bit, I think the story will be different. However, I feel kind of pleased he's fighting TLC back, TLC (Tortures Little Children) certainly deserves to have it handed to them.

Q: Does anyone know, didn't Kate at some point require Jon to stop working in order that he be home to take care of the kids so that she could go do her thing? Or is this specualtion/rumour?

Accountant said...

Skeptical Viewer is right. In order to make "millions" off a book an author has to be a Stephen King or a Patricia Cornwell...not a Jon & Kate. They probably didn't make near what Jon claims off the book nor did Kate make millions on her book tour (book tours are normally part of the deal with the publishing house). At most she got first class travel and accommodations for her tour. As for the speaking engagements...at $10-15K a pop she didn't make that much with them either. Also, if I read the court papers correctly they don't get any money on the sale of the DVD's and probably don't get anything for the reruns (reality TV after all, no residuals). I don't think their finances are what everyone thinks they are and they've probably got more going out (tuition, mortgate, salaries for servents, insurance, etc.) than they've got coming in. Kate must be desperate.

Maude said...

I'm on the fence about Kate having to return to nursing to provide half the support to the kids.

On the one hand I think she should have to earn a living like the rest of us, on the other hand I feel deeply for any patient she must come in contact with.

It seems we have a lot of nurses on this site. I have a question for you-
How does someone who "doesn't notice other people" care for them when they're sick or hurt.

I know someone who is in nursing school right now. She is not a narcissist per say, but she is extremely self absorbed. How is someone like this going to perform the necessary duties, follow orders, and most importantly "care" for someone in need? Are there a lot of people like this in nursing? I know there are bad examples in any profession, but it seems to me (a non-nurse) that concern, focus, and the ability to make quick decisions are needed.

Am I wrong here?

silimom said...

Just had a thought - I too have noticed the decline in tabloid and online gossip stories about these two. Does anyone think it could be a strategy on TLC's part? If Kate over saturates the market, people may not tune in to any new show she has as they're sick and tired if the Gosselin drama machine.

Just a thought.

Liar, Liar said...

Re: the many contradictions of Kate:

Excellent point about Kate's claim that only Jon changed (and not at all in a good way according to Kate), but SHE has remained the same (saintly in her own head), YET she refers to her worst behavior as 'the old Kate' - HUH? There's a huge leap o' logic goin' on there, Katie.


Further, she claims this change came on 'very swiftly' yet she also claims the divorce was inevitable (and has nothing to do with the show - yeah, right) and had been coming for a long time.
So WHICH IS IT, Kate - 'very swiftly' or 'things had been bad a long time'?

Pants Still On Fire.

SmartyQ said...

Not a fan of either said... There is something I've been wondering about. I read somewhere that when Beth wrote Multiple Blessings it originally was advertised as having been written by Beth and Kate. Then just before publishing Kate added Jon as one of the authors so that Beth would only get 1/3 of the profits instead of 1/2. Jon's name is on the book so why does he say that Kate got a bundle of money from the book she wrote. Shouldn't he have received some of that money?
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Unless QFI signed the book contract as a representative of JKIG (their company), Jon would not be entitled to share the book revenue of himself. The copyright is held in the names of QFI and Beth Carson, so I suspect QFI signed as herself—not a representative of JKIG. Beth would not be required to split her share of the profits (and I hope it was 50/50) with Jon and Kate as separate entities. His ‘share’ would have to come from QFI. I believe, however, that the profits would be considered a marital asset because she pretended to write the book while married.

One thing most strange: QFI dedicated the book to Jon who is listed as one of the authors.

Registered Nurse Opinion said...

Maude, like any other profession, there is a whole range of RN's, some great, some ok, some you wouldn't let touch you if you were dying.

Further, like other medical professionals, nurses can excel (or fail) on several levels, including the technical vs. the emotional levels. It's possible to be excellent in things like diagnosis and performing medical procedures yet have ZERO ability for a calm and comforting bedside manner.

JMO, but a laboring woman can certainly use a heap of TLC and emotional support - things it seems Kate is incapable of providing.

However, I can also tell you that there are other areas where RNs can find employment, areas that make use of nsg. training and experience but require no direct patient care - this would seem to apply to Kate, IF she wanted to lower herself back into every day life.

Which she has no intention of doing willingly.

Despite her claims she'd 'work at McDonalds' to support her beloved kids.

I'll believe that one just as soon as I see the first donkey fly.

NoUse4Kate said...

GoPoshGo said...

KB said...
In the current media circus, I think anyone with a business would be crazy to hire him. His presence would bring interruption, distraction, and drama to the workplace.
[snipped]

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If Gary Coleman, who was one of the biggest child stars of the eighties, could land a job as an inconspicuous security guard, a D-list celebrity like Jon Gosselin can surely get a job SOMEWHERE. I'm not buying the "he's too famous" for employment BS.

Hey, he's got lots of experience in childcare -- perhaps a wealthy family could hire him as their "manny."



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There is a huge difference between the two. After GC's run on TV there was not the non-stop tabloid garbage running on the nets like it does now. For now I agree with JG assertion that it would be difficult to obtain employment. My DH is in upper management (corporate level) and there is NO WAY they would hire JG at this point because he is a negative, no matter what skills he had. Maybe in a year or two when all of the drama has died down, but an employer would have to be insane to hire him right now. JMHO

Aubree in Illinois said...

I read recently in EW that "Nana Janet from J&K Plus 8 passed away in PA....." Could someone refresh my memory---who was she, exactly? Thanks.

Jane in California said...

silimom said...

Just had a thought - I too have noticed the decline in tabloid and online gossip stories about these two. Does anyone think it could be a strategy on TLC's part? If Kate over saturates the market, people may not tune in to any new show she has as they're sick and tired if the Gosselin drama machine.
* * * * *

I think the horse has long left the barn on this one. Kate and Jon have both oversaturated the tabloid market, and their "brand" has changed permanently. They are a running joke on late night talk shows. The Soup regularly features clips of Kate at her most hateful. JOn is portrayed sometimes as long suffering yet dumb, other times as greedy and dumb.

If TLC or Jon or Kate actually think they can be redeemed in the public's eye -- then they're all dumb as a box of rocks.

The fat lady sang. It's all over except for the continued descent into ever more desperate attempts to get attention. I am curious to see just how low Kate will go in her bid to remain in the public spotlight. I mean really, after a gazillion photos of her in hideous high heels, mini skirt and revealing top, going to Kinko's - even the most faithful sheeple is going to lose interest.

redskiesatnight said...

If Gary Coleman, who was one of the biggest child stars of the eighties, could land a job as an inconspicuous security guard, a D-list celebrity like Jon Gosselin can surely get a job SOMEWHERE. I'm not buying the "he's too famous" for employment BS.

Hey, he's got lots of experience in childcare -- perhaps a wealthy family could hire him as their "manny."

I agree. Just because Jon Gosselin considers himself 'too famous' does NOT mean he is gauranteed a life long career making big bucks within the entertainment industry.

Baaa! Baaa! said...

Tami said....

You were, no doubt, in the presence of a Sheeple.

Nice up-close look at just what Kate's 'fans' are all about. IMO, watching Rage-O-Holic Kate helps them rationalize their own behavior and treatment of others.

Memo to Kate: Next time you find yourself among your Sheeple, be aware that this experience is a glance in your own mirror. Wise up, Sweetcheeks, and seek professional psych counselling.

IA bag lady said...

I can just see Kate as an OB nurse, helping a laboring mother....every time the woman would even think of screaming etc, ol' Kate would bark up with "don't even tell me how hard it is to have one baby...I've had 6 at a time!" (At this point she'd whip out a few pics of her while she was pregnant in order to gain a little pity) Then she's continue on in telling the woman how horrible her husband was in leaving her and her 8 kids without any means of support etc. (Insert a few crocodile tears here) More about her, more about her. She'd end off her "visit" with an unasked-for autograph just so the new mom could tell her friends how thrilling it was to be in the presence of such a celebrity! (Gag here)
Just wondering, do they allow nurses to have body guards? Being she's such a big celebrity, wouldn't want Kate to be attacked by some sick patients!

MickeyMcKean said...

I'm confused about something and I hope someone here has paid a little bit more attention than I have in the last few days so they can help me clear up my confusion:

- Jon tells LKL that they get $22,500 per episode (not the rumored $75,000)

- A few days later Kate is sobbing, telling MVierra that Jon took $230,000 out of their joint account (giving the impression that he did this all in one day)

- Jon goes back on TV and said that just a few days before he only took out $22,000, his salary and that it is directly deposited by TLC into that account. Jon has the receipt to prove what he took out that day, and his attorney issued a statment saying that over several months Jon took out approximately $177,000 out of the account which is what he was owed as his paycheck.

- A month later J&K go to court. It is reported that Jon returned $180,000 and Kate provided the accounting. Kate also confirms this during the Morales interview.

- Now Jon has filed a $5m lawsuit.

Curiousity got the best of me and I quickly scanned the document Jon filed. But now a few days later something is bugging me:

Does it say *JON* was paid $22,500 for a half hour and $45,000 for an hour?

Does it also say *JON* is owed $175,000 for his wages? (I noted this is conveniently the same amount that he took out of the joint account)

Here are my questions:

Were Jon and Kate individually paid $22,500 per half hour?

Or was $22,500 paid and it was to be split between Jon and Kate, each getting $10,250? (right now I'm figuring the kids are not getting their share so they are not in my math calculation)

Again, Jon said he took out $22,000out of the account because he said it was his salary ... now based upon his lawsuit against TLC I'm wondering if TLC was in fact paying a combined total of $50,000 per half hour episode.

Anyone else confused? Or is it just me having another blonde moment????

fidosmommy said...

Aubree in Illinois said...
I read recently in EW that "Nana Janet from J&K Plus 8 passed away in PA....." Could someone refresh my memory---who was she, exactly? Thanks.

******

Nana Janet was a dear, loving woman who lived some distance from the Gosselins, but who came on a regular basis to help Kate with the children and with laundry tasks. I think she was the ironer, if I recall. Anyway, she wasn't really on very much, but the children adored her. She went to the birthday party that had a pony (3rd?) and got on one, being the good sport she was. She wanted to enjoy herself, enjoy the children, and share the day with them.

Then Kate, in "vintage Kate" (love that!) style decided to call out her words of love/encouragement to Nana Janet: "Don't get hurt! I need you to babysit!"

Later, on the couch, Kate had to
be snide ahd hurtful, saying that when NJ got on the pony, the pony was probably saying "Just shoot me now!"

Nana Janet was clearly a kind and loving soul who would not hurt a fly. I do not know why she was suddenly out of Kate's life, but
I will guarantee it was nothing NJ
did that was offensive, just Kate
feeling "she doesn't know how to help us".

Kate Gosselin gives me gas.

KittyKat said...

Maude,

I can tell you that I have a close family member that is a HUGE higher up at a facility. If a patient isn't cared for properly, talked down to, cleaned, or medicated in the correct fashion, it WILL be noticed... and believe you me, it will be corrected. Any lack of professionalism, any semblance of vanity, and any lack of regard for the purpose of the profession of nursing is found on your behalf, you might as well start looking.

So Hard to Keep Loving Jon said...

gowayfools has said it all for all of us!

kudos amen

Tbag said...

RIGHT ON, G0$$elins!!!

I have been saying the same thing about Jon for months now! He is such a nitwit that I have stopped feeling sorry for him.

He is a MEDIA WHORE, just like the other one.

Vexatious said...

Perhaps Carrie Prejean and Kate could get together on a project? They both butcher the English language mercilessly. Can you imagine the footage left on the cutting room floor?! It would take DAYS to film one 10 minute segment!!

Jane in California said...

If either Jon or Kate actually want to be out of the limelight, all they have to do is live a completely dull and boring everyday life. Let the papparazzi follow you around to the same spots every single day, day in and day out, with your only remark, "no comment" and they'll get bored soon enough.

Dress neatly but inconspicuously, keep your head down, smile politely from behind dark glasses, get in your car, and drive off. End of story.

Kate Sucks said...

Later, on the couch, Kate had to
be snide ahd hurtful, saying that when NJ got on the pony, the pony was probably saying "Just shoot me now!"

___________

Exactly! This is how Kate speaks about a sweet soul who did nothing but help her. It's always about Kate. No wonder Nana Janet never came back, with Kate's hateful rude comments, meant for her own amusement for FILMING. Kate really does suck.

fidosmommy said...

Kate Sucks said...
Later, on the couch, Kate had to
be snide ahd hurtful, saying that when NJ got on the pony, the pony was probably saying "Just shoot me now!"

___________

Exactly! This is how Kate speaks about a sweet soul who did nothing but help her. It's always about Kate. No wonder Nana Janet never came back, with Kate's hateful rude comments, meant for her own amusement for FILMING. Kate really does suck.

*****

I have just read on GWoP that Nana Janet's granddaughter says NJ was still going over to the house to help out, we just never saw her.

So maybe she didn't go the way of Grandparents, Kevin and Jody, and others. I hope not.

BTW, has anybody heard or seen a thing about Carla?

jibberjabbers said...

More contradiction from Kate Gosseln:

In the beginning of Kate - Her story, she was asked about her parents and the question was "did they change". Regarding why they no longer are in contact with each other.

Kate replied, "we both changed". So much for stayed the same Kate.

GoPoshGo said...

KB said...
I was not and am not saying he is "too famous" for work. Perhaps it is that he is rather infamous. [snipped] ... my point was more, and I think I made it in the rest of that post, that I can understand the obstacles he faces at the moment.

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Just to clarify my post, KB -- I wasn't suggesting that you think Jon is too famous to work (that was HIS claim) -- and I actually agree with many of your points in terms of the challenges he faces. What irks me is that HE's claiming that he's too hounded by the paparazzi to even LOOK for work, which I find completely ridiculous. And while I agree completely with you and other posters that the job market is bad (I live in PA, too -- although it stinks all over), and that Jon's a high-risk hire at the moment, I DO NOT agree with the point of his complaint to the Judge: that the media hounds and paparazzi are preventing him from even looking for work. A completely lame excuse. He's basically admitting that he hasn't even tried.

Also, I find his reasoning to be a bit circular: He's famous, so the media attention keeps him from working in anything other than entertainment. Therefore, he continues to accept work in entertainment, which perpetuates his time in the spotlight, further preventing him from being able to pursue a regular job. So when does the cycle end??? It would seem logical that he needs to remove himself from the spotlight in order for the media attention to die down and allow him to be a regular citizen.

I'm just not convinced that he's willing to do that. His latest "spoof" video is a case in point. Yes, it was funny -- but necessary? It's only purpose was to keep him in the spotlight.

PR in PA said...

Ok..so I was in the Hallmark store yesterday looking for a card and came across a Jon & Kate card. I kid you not. It was like a cartoon drawing of ALL of them and said something like New Reality show: Jon & Kate Plus His Date. They drew all the kids screaming and Jon, Kate and the gf..guess Hailey smiling. I don't remember what the inside said.

jibberjabbers said...

Poor choice of word by Jon. Just like when he said "I despise Kate".

Instead of "I'm too famous", he should of said there is just to much going on with his life right now that makes him unemployable.

From the defamation and slander in the tabloids and those false accusations of drug abuse, hacking, and embezzlement of the joint account.

All those above make him "unemployable" for the time being.

Once the dust settles, Jon may be able to find a job.

But find a "office" job at this point in time is a reach.

Seriously, Jon said...

Go Posh Go said, "... I find his reasoning to be a bit circular: He's famous, so the media attention keeps him from working in anything other than entertainment. Therefore, he continues to accept work in entertainment, which perpetuates his time in the spotlight, further preventing him from being able to pursue a regular job. So when does the cycle end??? It would seem logical that he needs to remove himself from the spotlight in order for the media attention to die down and allow him to be a regular citizen.

I'm just not convinced that he's willing to do that. His latest "spoof" video is a case in point. Yes, it was funny -- but necessary? It's only purpose was to keep him in the spotlight."

********************************

Bravo, I've tried making this exact same point, but not nearly as articulately.

The recent video is unlikely to do anything but keep him in the spotlight, the very thing he claims is keeping him from other employment.

Not buying it.

Bloomers said...

Can anyone provide any info about that one episode where J&K made a vague reference about impending international travel? Wasn't there some connection between travel to 'connect with Jon's roots' and adoption to give Kate the experience of 'having just 1'?

Thanks in advance.

Can't See Sheep said...

Shocking! said...

Kate herself explained why she wears the high heels on one of her shows. She said, and I quote, "I wear these heels because they make me look thinner."
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LMAO! They don't make heels that high!

Merrilee said...

Geri said...
I had an "epiphany" tonight about Kate. I always wondered why she wears those very high heels every where and to the bus stop no less. I was looking at the most recent pics of her picking the kids up at the bus stop and it occurred to me that she wears them to make those kids look shorter, i. e. younger standing next to her!

11/13/2009 9:16 PM
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And so she can tower over Jon!

tuesday said...

Her's a job for Jon, full-time(in his shared custody time) parent to 8 children.

Being a loving, present, and supportive role model for 8 kids sounds like a pretty good job to me.

Khate will never be able to fill those shoes, go for it Jon!

For the Moment? said...

I'm willing to bet that organic went out the window as soon as the filming stopped. I always thought that was just a type of "branding" --something to set the show apart and give it a recognition factor. Like the round of applause she got on Oprah when they said how do you get them to eat organic and she said they have no choice. That was when everybody was still buying her crap.

Carrin said...

Brummygirl said...
Oh My Gosh, I was searching for the youtube when they moved into the new house but for some reason, this interview came up.
This was obviously just over a year ago and knowing what I know now, just about every word Kate uttered was a totally complete lie. Not sure if any of you saw this, but it good for a laugh!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZqRewkc5CM

11/14/2009 7:35 PM
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I could only tolerate watching about 15 seconds of this disgusting video. She is such a witch.

KB said...

Sorry for my misunderstanding you GoPoshGo. I realised afterwards that Jon had said he was "too famous." But really right now, he is too infamous.

While I think Jon grasps the idea incorrectly, I understand it's likely what he needed to say for the purpose of the lawsuit. It seems everyone here thought it wrong of TLC to go after Jon the way they did, so I don't see a problem really with sticking it back to them, particularly if it means he's not bending to their will and allowing those chidlren back on camera. He's likely doing it for the money, but it also seems like he's standing up for himself like he never did with Kate. Whatever the reasoning, as long as the kids don't have cameras in their face, I'm pretty happy.

Sissy said...

Carrie Prejean and Kate could get together with that oh-so-very, in-love-with-himself, Levi Johnston.

They are all very addicted to themselves. Surely there must be some way they could make money together.

The three of them together might get the IQ of a 10 year old.

fidosmommy said...

show description said...

I thought the premise of the show was how the parents coped with twins and sextuplets.

*****

TLC could have saved itself a boatload of cash by just giving us the answer up front:

"Not very well."

End of show. Nothing to see here, folks, move along.

not K8's bestest friend said...

Did Kate say the kids only present last year was the pups? Or that one of the only presents was the pups? Because in that youtube video posted she says she's already started Christmas shopping and also that it's important to stick with your budget. I only watched about about half of it. She said Cara and Mady were almost 8 so that would have been around last Christmas.

cottagequeso gal said...

Does anyone recall one of the very first episodes where Khate hired a pretty young girl (but let's get this clear - it was NOT a nanny!!!) who, of course, didn't measure up to Khate's standards of perfection? Khate very snidely remarked "I don't think she 'gets' it". OMG, that poor girl was under this witch's scutiny and reminded me of a deer caught in headlights...I'm so happy it didn't work out for her, she seemed so sweet.
Ironically it's Khate who doesn't 'get' it, she can't wrap her chia-pet head around the fact that the world is laughing AT her, not WITH her.
Time to hop on board the loser train Khate and tell Carrie to move over. Destination: nowhere

Angel1 said...

Can anyone provide a link for Kate throwing the twins' things down the mansion stairwell?

Thanks in advance.

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It was on the 'School Days' epi I think.

apostrophes baffle me said...

cottagequeso, The children look like they're deer caught in headlights all the time. Without mentioning names,4 or 5, at the least, come to mind quite often.

I've had enough! said...

I've been reading the posts about how snide Kate is to the "guests" on the show. Can you imagine how humiliating it must have been for these people to watch the episode in which they were featured?! And knowing that friends and family were watching it, too? The one I remember is the cleaning girl. Kate was nice enough to give her a trial run, and then went behind her with camera in tow to nitpick and spout crap about how poor a job the girl had done. Then the couch interview further slanders the girl. It must have been brutal to hear Kate's comments!

Honestly, I'm surprised Kate hasn't upset the wrong person yet. It's bound to happen, though -- she keeps opening her mouth.

Not a Nanny said...

cottagequeso gal,
I think she said "I don't think she's gonna get it" as in the job. I can see Kate's point in needing to be firm but I bet its pretty awkward situation for the babysitter too. Its not her place to discipline the children when the parent is sitting right there.

Shoshanna said...

Dear Kate,

Have you been following the Carrie Prejean fiasco?
Now that all her lies have started to surface, it's just a matter of time before she becomes Carrie Post-Jean.

Do you realize that you've also lost your royal crown
and the only one you are entitled to wear now is a
crown of thorns? Better leave that sticking-up
section in place for now. Don't want the thorny
crown to slip and hurt your wonky eye!

Shoshanna said...

And by the way, does anyone know if Kate
attended the funeral of Nana Janet?

I'm guessing she didn't, since the grieving family
probably was unwilling to pay for her appearance.

Vanessa said...

She doesn't just contradict herself so many times on one subject, she contradicts herself so many times in just one sentence.

Vanessa said...

Khate would listen and play along with Stacy and Clinton if it meant she'd get a $5000 shopping spree.
Then she'd bash them on the interview couch.

LB said...

Does anyone finds it funny that no one has asked KON lately how they are displincing the children? It’s like the media has swept the incident of spanking Leah for blowing a whistle under the rug, no one has mentioned it ever since. They have not even questioned her about the humgous wooden spoon in the van passenger door! They should also ask her what’s the heck is up with the fake ‘motherly’ affection and grabbing of the children’s heads for a kiss in front of the paps. Notice the children doesn’t reach up to Kate or put their arms around her when she does that. They always stand rather limply with their arms down. I wonder why.

Midnight Serenade said...

Honestly, I'm surprised Kate hasn't upset the wrong person yet. It's bound to happen, though -- she keeps opening her mouth.

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I think she did. Wasn't the previous owner of the house (the doctor) mighty upset over her "filty conditions" remark and was compensated by TLC?

Kate is organicish said...

For the Moment? said...

I'm willing to bet that organic went out the window as soon as the filming stopped. I always thought that was just a type of "branding" --something to set the show apart and give it a recognition factor. Like the round of applause she got on Oprah when they said how do you get them to eat organic and she said they have no choice. That was when everybody was still buying her crap.
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I believe that organic was made up from the beginning. I read that Kate wanted to do an organic cooking show and TLC decided to go with it so to speak. I don't believe for a second that kate is into organic at all. I am sure it will all come out with the wash soon enough.

For the Moment? said...

It seems like in the very beginning Beth did a few interviews about the book but then went suddenly silent. Anyone remember?

chesterctymom said...

Can't See Sheep said...
Shocking! said...

Kate herself explained why she wears the high heels on one of her shows. She said, and I quote, "I wear these heels because they make me look thinner."
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LMAO! They don't make heels that high!



Soon she'll be using stilts!

For the Moment? said...

Thanks for the Dionne link TeriA...

I have always heard of the Dionne quints but was not familiar with their story. Talk about a horror story! Laws should have been put in place right then that parents of multiples could not exploit their children and seek monetary gain from them. It should be the luck of the draw. If you get multiples you just have to work a little harder, especially if you secretly tried to get multiples as I suspect in this case.

(I am off today, LOL, working single mom here)

Good Grief said...

KittyKat said...

Maude,

I can tell you that I have a close family member that is a HUGE higher up at a facility. If a patient isn't cared for properly, talked down to, cleaned, or medicated in the correct fashion, it WILL be noticed... and believe you me, it will be corrected. Any lack of professionalism, any semblance of vanity, and any lack of regard for the purpose of the profession of nursing is found on your behalf, you might as well start looking.

---

Perhaps that's true at the facility your relative is employed at, but it is not universally true. I can tell you that there are a lot of crappy nurses out there -- just spend some time in or around hospitals and you'll get a dose of reality.

Jen said...

If Jon were to get a regular job, say in IT, he would be working inside for crying out loud. It isn't as if the paps are going to be hanging from the ceiling over his cubicle. What a tool!

fidosmommy said...

Shoshanna said...
And by the way, does anyone know if Kate attended the funeral of Nana Janet?

*****

I'm a bit confused about all this.
We have all been working under the premise that Nana Janet was no longer involved in the Gosselin's lives.

Now we are being told that Nana Janet's granddaughter said she was still going to the house until recently, but just not filmed.

OK, so if Nana Janet was NOT kicked to the curb by Kate, then we would be supposing their relationship remained good. So, we would assume she went to the funeral, and that TLC would acknowledge the dear woman's passing in some meaningful way.
I haven't seen that yet, but it's possible they're waiting until the last show. Who knows? We'll soon find out. (Of course, now that it is here on GWoP, TLC might quick decide they need to do something!
They get lots of good input from GWoP, don't you know?)

Truth is, we don't know if that was an actual granddaughter who wrote that entry on some blog, or somebody who was passing herself off as a relative, trying to protect Kate (saying Nana Janet was still a family friend). We just don't know.

For the Moment? said...

Re: Nursing

I have heard of nurses who left the field because it was too difficult for them as they did not know as much as they should have and it made the job way too stressful.

I really can't see Kate being an RN, has anyone ever seen her certificate?

She just doesn't seem smart enough to have made it though school or compassionate enough to really excel in that field.

Can you imagine having to work with her?

maggie said...

I very silly asking this but what does QFI stand for. My mind is drawing a blank.

I think the only hope for Kate is if Paula Deen's Mom's talk show is picked up and she is one of the co-hosts. That will give her job security, decent income, and her wish of staying in the public. If the show is a go, I will really be disappointed. She in no way deserves to be on it.

Last week Joy Behar opened her show on CNN talking about Jon and Kate being together for Christmas. She made the joke that maybe Santa will drop some mood stabilizers in their stockings. Then said that the good news is the Gosselin kids are going to spend Christmas together. The bad news is their parents are going to be there... And the way these two are acting, these two have been slamming each other in public. (She then showed the video saying how he was abused and then showed the video where Kate is crying that Jon left her only with $1,000.) Then a comic asked if Kate was going to hang Jon's balls on the tree this year. Joy said, "Jon's nuts roasting over a fire". Several comics made the remark that Jon and Kate are the gift that keeps on giving.

My point is how can Telepictures include Kate in their new talkshow? She is a laughing stock. I don't get it. Paul Deen was on one of Joy's shows and Joy asked if she had a new talkshow and Paula replied that it wasn't certain yet. Then Joy cracked a joke and didn't let Paula continue. (Made me mad).

You can read both transcripts on her website. One is dated Nov.
11th and the other is Nov.9th.

Button Button said...

Kate is organicish said...
For the Moment? said...

I'm willing to bet that organic went out the window as soon as the filming stopped. I always thought that was just a type of "branding" --something to set the show apart and give it a recognition factor. Like the round of applause she got on Oprah when they said how do you get them to eat organic and she said they have no choice. That was when everybody was still buying her crap.
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I believe that organic was made up from the beginning. I read that Kate wanted to do an organic cooking show and TLC decided to go with it so to speak. I don't believe for a second that kate is into organic at all. I am sure it will all come out with the wash soon enough.

11/16/2009 5:31 AM
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I believe the concept of having Kate into organic cooking was a set up by TLC. They had to think of ways to make her even more interesting, so TLC came up with that gimmick, not Kate.

She couldn't have known about organic all on her own. She is so into herself, how could she possibly find the time to learn about such a persuasian?

Charles said...

tuesday said...
Her's a job for Jon, full-time(in his shared custody time) parent to 8 children.

Being a loving, present, and supportive role model for 8 kids sounds like a pretty good job to me.

Khate will never be able to fill those shoes, go for it Jon!

11/15/2009 6:20 PM
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Didn't Jon already do that? For two years?

In the earlier episodes Jon said he would in NO WAY want Kate's job of staying home with the kids. This was when the tups were still babies.

Then, lo and behold, when Kate got so famous that she travled hither, thither and yon without Jon, it was him who was indeed the stay at home parent.

I think his crankiness during his March Of Death into the woods was because Kate had been gone a long time and he was tired of being the stay at home parent.

He would much rather be leaving each morning, going to a work place where he felt valued and equal to those at his place of work, but instead was the only available parent for weeks on end.

Jon did NOT want to be the SAHP.

Anne said...

I really do not understand what kind of legal and PR advice Jon is getting. He had some brief training in computers/IT about ten years ago and worked in that "field" for 2-3 years? The last 4 years the show was his job and 2 of those years he says he was Mr. Mom while Kate worked and made millions.

I got a BS in Computer Science in the mid 90's and then went on to grad school. I have not worked at a job invovling my computer degree for 10 years. There is no way I could go get a computer related job today without going back to school and taking some classes. I could not compete with recent grads.

If Jon could just calm down and sit in a reasonably priced bachelor pad (like $800 a month and play some video games just don't party in public all the time), he could put together a great case.
1. He can't go back to IT unless he takes some additional classes.
2. Admit Kate was more of the breadwinner and is more employable, both via nursing and speaking tours.
3.Say he gave up his career to be a stay at home dad.

Kate in no way should win spousal support if Jon is admitting he gave up his job and was the stay at home dad and Kate admits she "worked" touring for the last 2 years of the marriage.
Jon should easily be able to get a year to get some training and find a nice low key office job.

Holly said...

MickeyMcKean said...
"Were Jon and Kate individually paid $22,500 per half hour?...Or was $22,500 paid and it was to be split between Jon and Kate, each getting $10,250?...Anyone else confused? Or is it just me having another blonde moment????"

When they first started appearing in the tabloids, the estimate of how much the family made per episode was consistently listed as "$25,000 to $75,000," which is a really big variance.

Based on references to court documents as well as other things they've let slip during their lie-fests, I've believed for a while that Jon and Kate probably each get $22,500 per episode and the kids get around the same per episode to split among themselves. Singly, the lower number in that range could then be correct, and added together the high end of that range could also be correct. How the heck else could they afford the McMansion, the vehicles, the school tuition, the wardrobe, the spa treatments, the Starbucks, the organic food (ha), or even their property and income taxes? The cheap-skates can't be getting *everything* for free.

And I would not be at all surprised if the kids' pot of money is first 'taxed' by Kate to pay for their housing, food, clothing, etc. She seems like that kind of selfish brat to me.

PA Woman said...

KB said...
While I think Jon grasps the idea incorrectly, I understand it's likely what he needed to say for the purpose of the lawsuit. It seems everyone here thought it wrong of TLC to go after Jon the way they did, so I don't see a problem really with sticking it back to them, particularly if it means he's not bending to their will and allowing those chidlren back on camera. He's likely doing it for the money, but it also seems like he's standing up for himself like he never did with Kate. Whatever the reasoning, as long as the kids don't have cameras in their face, I'm pretty happy.

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I'm in agreement here. Jon has a couple of choices in terms of this lawsuit. To give TLC what they really want, which is the kids or to fight back. He is fighting back with a counter suit. He has to say he is unemployable. We don't know that he hasn't applied for several IT jobs and has been turned down. He may have a lot of documentation to back this up. Keep in mind as we all sit here and say Jon, get a job get a job, he is still under excusive contract with TLC that may keep him from accepting any employment without their approval be it in entertainment or IT. They have him between an rock and a hard place on employment. His suit may sound outrageous, but he is fighting back.

PA Woman said...

MickeyMcKean said...
Anyone else confused? Or is it just me having another blonde moment????

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First off, don't try and relate what Jon said on LKL, to what he with drew a couple of months ago. I watched the clip from LKL a few times. First, Larry asked how much they make, then he changed the question to how much did they make LAST Year. The rumored high salaries were for Season 5 which was THIS year not LAST Year.

So last year (Season 4) was about $22,500 per episode. This year (Season 5), if he took out 22,000 probably means they are (or should I say were) making at leat $44,000 per episode since I assume it was split equally with Kate. And, It could be more if they have an agreement to leave a portion of the money in the account for the kids, house hold expenses, etc. For example, say they made $50K they may have an agreement to each take $22K and leave $6K for other combined expenses or the kids.

I don't think we have any basis to say what they actually were making for Season 5. Lets just say that they made far less then the 40 episodes contracted, so they won't be getting a big chunk of the projected earnings (or associated perks)

KittyKat said...

Good Grief said...
Perhaps that's true at the facility your relative is employed at, but it is not universally true. I can tell you that there are a lot of crappy nurses out there -- just spend some time in or around hospitals and you'll get a dose of reality.


Good Grief,
You're right. There are a TON of crappy nurses out there (I was once told I was probably STD ridden by a nurse... end diagnosis: endometriosis). But there are also wonderful, smart, educated nurses who are our advocates out there as well... All I can speak of is what I know. And what I know is that K8's crap wouldn't be taken where we are.

Unfortunately, Kate doesn't have an MSN or a BSN, so she couldn't climb the ranks of deskhood too quickly, like MDS or data quality, etc. She would definitely need to go back to school to avoid even the path of patient care. C'mon Kate, order some cute scrubs and crocs (I know you would), and wash your hands. Time to get to work.

KatyKat said...

Re: Kind, loving Nana Janet

IMO it would have been very inappropriate for Jon or Kate to go to the funeral and turn Nana Janet's last loving tribute into a media circus. They should have sent a lovely bouquet and made a generous donation to the charity of Nana Janet's choice. That would have been more proper in this situation.

Midnight Serenade said...

"So last year (Season 4) was about $22,500 per episode. This year (Season 5), if he took out 22,000 probably means they are (or should I say were) making at leat $44,000 per episode since I assume it was split equally with Kate. And, It could be more if they have an agreement to leave a portion of the money in the account for the kids, house hold expenses, etc. For example, say they made $50K they may have an agreement to each take $22K and leave $6K for other combined expenses or the kids."

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We don't know if the amount Jon quoted was net or gross, do we?

Button Button said...

Joel McHale, on The Soup, said TLC goes with a plan: 1) Stick to a formula and 2) Ruin a marriage.

The formula seems to be get the families to travel and vacation, go to the dentist, get a dog, make men look like imbeciles. What else?

The Gosselins started their travel and vacations when the kids were way too young to enjoy most of it. Kids crying on ski slopes, on the beach, in the ocean and at Disneyland, don't make much of a show.

They didn't keep their dogs.

Their family was indeed ruined.

Jon was made to look like an idiot. Kate seemed to do no wrong.

So far, the Roloffs got their dog, and no one pays any attention to him. We didn't see trips to the dentist, but their medical episodes really were very interesting.

Their traveling got the best of them. All together in their RV wasn't good family time. Remember when Molly told her mom to shut up?

Then their road trip wasn't much fun. Matt went back home. The kids were bored to death and wanted to go back home.

Amy usually looks angry with Matt, and her house usually looks like a pig sty. I doubt that the Roloffs will split up, but they aren't doing much to make the family look highly successful.

Why do people want to show themselves this way?

The Duggars traveled some, but that whole crew got worn out pretty quickly. They did do a dentist episode. Wasn't that pathetic?

But the Duggars have not allowed any immodesty to be shown, unlike the Gosselins.

Michelle was well draped for her ultrasound, or whatever tests she had with her pregnancies.

We saw Kate's pregnant belly with 6kids before and after the birth.

TLC has made Jim Bob look like an imbecile now and then, and that was not good. Hopefully that has come to a halt.

The Hayes family, so far, seems to be in charge of their filming.

They haven't gotten a dog yet and their travel and vacations haven't really started yet, but we have seen too much concerning potty training. That one incident in the restaurant restroom might be the only one like that, hopefully.

We could go on and on, but I am getting bored with this post, but that is the gist of their formula.

So, anyway, TLC, how about new plans and formulas? And please, no more ruined marriages.

NaySayer Here said...

Vanessa said, "Khate would listen and play along with Stacy and Clinton if it meant she'd get a $5000 shopping spree."

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Yep, just like she pretended it was all good when Sara Snow took over her kitchen and told Kate it was ok to eat less-than-sterilized mushrooms.

Kate is a willing puppet for TLC - she is willing to do whatever it takes to keep herself in the spotlight.

Jackiepaper said...

Agree with the formula that "The Soup" mentioned. One has to wonder why anyone would risk harm to your family to go through these ridiculous charades. Regis Philbin said on his show that "reality tv" was so scripted that it is anything but reality tv. That being said, people who love the queen should learn to know that this woman's "reality" is fantasy and her "real life" is also a fiction that she makes up in her own head.

KB said...

Just to comment on what others have mentioned, about Jon not wanting to be a SAHP. I don't think it was so much that as it was Kate returning from her trips to wherever, telling him everything he'd done was wrong, then complaining and yelling about how now she'd have to spend all her time fixing everything because he can't do anything right. You know, all the usual behaviour we've seen the last 5 years! I think Jon felt angry and upset at constantly being told he can do no right. I'd become angry and resentful too if I was told that on a regular basis. That aside, Kate coming in and doing that would also create problems for him when dealing with the chilren as she'd be undermining him and if she doesn't respect him why should they. I think he was frustrated at being a SAHP because of her treatment and attitude towards him. We all know she'd make ridiculous claims about him and all she had to do after getting back and all the "oh what a martyr am I act"

Marie said...

Dr. Lillian Glass has an excellent post on her body language blog today (Mon 11/16) about Kate's "performance" on last weeks TLC interview with Natalie Morales. Dr. Glass rips into Kate for lying and wearing an earpiece during the interview. http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/

For those of you who haven't been to her blog, she frequently comments on both Jon and Kate's appearances/interviews.

jibberjabbers said...

Here is the earpiece clip. She starts having trouble with it in the middle of the video. This scene was deleted from the episode.

Kate her story deleted scene

B said...

Wonder how long it will be till Kate starts talking about how Jon never comes to see his kids (whether it be by his choice or not).
Sorry if my observation is incorrect, but it seems like every recent picture of the kids is when they are with Kate.

jibberjabbers said...

B said...

Sorry if my observation is incorrect, but it seems like every recent picture of the kids is when they are with Kate.

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Jon is in Hawaii this week.

Pattypanda said...

From Dr. Lillian Glass, body language expert

TLC FAILS AT KATE’S IMAGE REHAB

After Kate Gosselin’s first Q and A Special on TLC, where she tossed papers and showed her hostility, arrogance, and self entitlement, and signals of deceptions, the public was very turned off. TLC knew this. So they tried to do some quick image rehab. That this why they immediately put her on the air the following week, to give her another chance and fix the damage . This time, they changed up the format and had her interviewed with a pro from the Today show, Natalie Morales. This time around, TLC did not let Kate talk directly into the camera or leave her to her own devices. Instead, they used their own devices- An Earpiece put into Kate’s ear where they fed Kate what to say and fed her when to cry .

Like a Bad Verizon Ad said...

Jibber Jabbers said, "Here is the earpiece clip. She starts having trouble with it in the middle of the video. This scene was deleted from the episode.

Kate her story deleted scene

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This is hilarious!

"Hello? Hello? Can you hear me now, Kate? Can you hear me? Uh, ok then, just remember: tears & tissues, Everything I do is for my kids, I am a High Road Taker, Jon is bad. I am good. The kids love ME. I can't go back - I can only go forward. I need this job to feed my children. I am a Christian....."

fidosmommy said...

Like a Bad Verizon Ad said...
Jibber Jabbers said, "Here is the earpiece clip. She starts having trouble with it in the middle of the video. This scene was deleted from the episode.

Kate her story deleted scene

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Oh my! That was pretty pathetic, wasn't it?

HEY! CONTROL ROOM! I have these baseball cards of my kids spread out on the couch in front of Natalie. Now, what do I say about them? Can somebody fill me in here? There's one kid with glasses - can you tell me anything about him? NOW?? Oh hell, nobody's saying anything. You people are of no use to me whatsoever. I guess it's time for Kleenex and talking very, very softly. America will think I'm just having a very proud Mommy moment here, right?

goawayfools said...

Re: Kate, Her Story, deleted scene: just wow. Can't think of a spontaneous response regarding your own kids, Kate?I love the lie/line about how she lays the pictures out every day to look at them. Try this, Kate honey... How about putting those pictures in frames or, better yet, looking at the real kids instead? Moron.

Pattypanda said...

Oh no, Radar online wants to ban me cuz I don't agree with their Kate arse kissing. They are way too funny.

Jane in California said...

wow - that deleted scene - I wish Joel McHale would play that one over and over again :) She's pressing that lil ear piece for all it's worth - Major Kate to ground control! what do I say about these baseball cards again? It was Jon's job to keep them all straight for me!

Tyra said...

What I find ironic about Jon and Kate's divorce is the fact that Kate keeps saying she can't wait 'till the divorce is final so that it will bring peace to her and the family. Boy, what little does she know. Can you imagine having Kate for your ex-wife?!! Poor Jon. I'll bet she'll be a hundred times worse as an ex-wife. IMO, I think peace for that family is a long way off!

Susan said...

I happened to read People magazine over the weekend - probably an old one - and it had an article about the hidden alcoholism among suburban moms, who drink to get through their days w/the kids. Some moms quoted in the article said how easy it was to disguise...whiskey in a baby bottle looks like apple juice; vodka in a water bottle looks like water...anything in a coffee flask looks like ... well you get the picture. Made me think, per our discussions of the ever present Starbucks cup.

konhasyoufooled said...

Just read on ROL that kate parked in a fire lane. Of course if you read some of the comments EVERYBODY does that and if they say they don't then they are liars. Well excuse meeeee but I have never done that. I have never left an unattended cart in the lot either. I have respect for others. It is amazing no matter what she does her fan sticks up for her. And yes I meant fan.

PutASockInIt said...

Brummygirl said...
Oh My Gosh, I was searching for the youtube when they moved into the new house but for some reason, this interview came up.
This was obviously just over a year ago and knowing what I know now, just about every word Kate uttered was a totally complete lie. Not sure if any of you saw this, but it good for a laugh!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZqRewkc5CM

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This is just disgusting! She makes Pinocchio look like the world's biggest truth-teller.lol (better get ready for a pricey nose-job, Katie).

Virginia Mom said...

Wait! An earpiece? I looked at the video (thanks, Jibberjabbers) and it's clear that's what she has.

You mean, she's being interviewed about her PERSONAL life, her PERSONAL feelings, and she has to have someone tell her what those feelings are and how to present them? And then she presents them as her OWN tears, her OWN thoughts about her OWN life?

MESSED UP. And deceptive to the point of fraudalent. It shows how far this charade has gone--with REAL, feeling children involved, no less!

Good for you for busting her and TLC, Jibberjabbers, and also for alerting Dr. Glass.

How did you find the deleted footage?

MBach said...

Something just occured to me earier today -
Kate will always have to keep the name Gosselin!

She may marry another 10 men (fools), but to remain a famous person, gag cough, she will not be able to change her name.

She may think she could just use Kate, but her chances of EVER being that famous are over.

How about that? She may trash Jon over and over, she may see herself as the diva she wants to be, but she will forver be Kate GOSSELIN.

I also like to imagine that soon (very soon, I hope) she will have to say to people who don't know who she is -
I'm Kate Gosslin! You know, Jon and Kate Plus 8, I'm the one with the 8 kids, no not the octomom, Jon and KATE+8, yes the one that filmed her marriage failure for all of the world to see, yes that's me -you got it- the hateful wife, YES the one that used her children to become famous. Yes, yes that's me! Now you remember me, me, me, me, me, me.......

She will have to keep that stupid hairdon't too. Just like Elly Mae and RoseMarie from those old 50's shows. Both are in their seventies or older, with the same hair style, just so people have a chance to recognize them.

jibberjabbers said...

Deleted scenes can be found here: There's about 5 of them.

http://tlc.discovery.com/videos/kate-her-story/

The earpiece one stuck out like a sore thumb. I didn't really watch the other.

But if anyone sees anything suspicious. Don't forget to share.

jasmine said...

So Kate was wearing an earpiece during the Morales interview. Her hair did look like it was glued down over ear and eye and she sat like she was afraid to move her head. Too bad the earpiece didn't fall into her lap during the interview.

mommadiane5 said...

Virginia Mom said...
You mean, she's being interviewed about her PERSONAL life, her PERSONAL feelings, and she has to have someone tell her what those feelings are and how to present them? And then she presents them as her OWN tears, her OWN thoughts about her OWN life?

Kind of like her book???

shes-outdone-herself said...

My letter to kate (sorry so long):

Dear Kate,

It seems that you could use someone to ‘give it to you straight’, Kate. I know that you have a lot of ‘helpers’ but it has become apparent that none of them are actually there to help you: but they are there to make you look like an ass so TLC/advertisers/etc. can make more money off of you. I would like to help you out. Here it goes, please pay close attention, it may sting but its good for you:

I have stopped watching your show due to your horrendous behavior and continuous contradictions. As recent as last night you went on your show and blasted Jon for not playing with the kids, yet on your show, perhaps last season, you said yourself, on the interview couch to Jon, that you do not play with your kids. This type of lie and out right contradiction does not go unnoticed and makes you look uneducated and insipid. It seems as though every time you open your mouth you are lying or contradicting yourself; from when you announced the divorce (compared to how and when it happened) to trivial things such as screaming at Jon a year or so ago for referring to your life in seasons, then doing so yourself not too long ago. You seem unaware of reality and your place in it; my advice to you would be to start trying to figure out what is real and what is fake very slowly, because when you are faced with reality you will be ill with the reality you have created for yourself.
You also claim to be ‘hounded’ by the paparazzi; perhaps if you properly clothed yourself they wouldn’t be so anxious to get the next ‘crotch-shot’ (setting up the bounce house on the front lawn at your house in a short dress). If you treated your children kindly and with respect they wouldn’t be trying to get the next extreme spanking caught on film (again at your house). If you utilized the property out of the line of vision from the street at your house, it might also help. If, also, you tried a little harder to ‘blend in’ and dress appropriately for you job, age and task, it would help. And last but not least, don’t cause a scene everywhere you go.
I’m not an expert in this area, but compared to you, I might be: lets talk about your divorce. Stop. Bashing. Your. Husband. You have 8 kids with him and were married for 10 years. You were a nasty, vile b**** almost the whole time (see video evidence), so you owe it to him to be civil now. Let him live his life, and you live yours. Enjoy your children and just be a grown up. The constant ridicule of his every action is irrelevant: no one cares but you. It does not matter. And even you no longer have a say. So get over it.
You are destroying your children. You are not a mother. There is not a mothering bone in your body that I have seen on your TV show or in any interview you have done. You are an opportunist. A narcissist. A self-serving hanger-on. You birthed those children, you are around them a moderate amount of time, but you don’t know them and you aren’t their mother. A mother is met by their children after a school day or being gone from a “business” trip with hugs and arms up to be picked up and the rushing voices to tell her stories. I have not seen that towards you. A mother has more to say about their kids than harsh comments and snaky one-liners. The best thing you could do for your kids is to get away from any and all types of cameras and take a few parenting classes. Get back into church (if you ever were truly there with a genuine purpose). And spend time with your children.

Yours truly,

I-think-youre-an-idiot

hereintherealworld said...

Betty Hayes puts Kate Gosselin to shame. Now, she's the realist mom that there can be, Kate. Good riddance and please get some counseling for your poor children.

Merrilee said...

Try and guess where this quote came from:

"I was saddened that this was coming to an end. What will I do with my Monday nights? I loved being a part of the Gosselin family and really wish them well."

Part of the Gosselin family! My word, it is deep in there!

Go Away Gosselins! said...

Why the Jon defense?

I just saw the documents on Radar that show the written contract between Kate Major and Jon. It shows that Jon obviously was taking money from other media sources and it acknowledges him and Kate had a relationship. Jon clearly LIED and there is proof in that "contract".

There are some comments saying that Jon isn't at fault for the contract and that Kate (Gosselin) is to blame and she started it with the contract she had between her and Jon regarding dating outside of their married relationship. Come On People!!! I'm all for a good Kate Gosselin bashing and I loathe her but Jon NEEDS to be held accountable for his own actions and his stupidity cannot be blamed on Kate (Gosselin).

Jon is a lying pig.

Kate Is Busted said...

Thanks, JJ, for providing the link to that Kate messing with her earpiece part of the episode. I didn't watch it, weak stomach and all that, but I did wonder why they had her hair even more bushy and unattractive than normal. It is obvious what happened there. Yeah, realist real mom on TV -- GAG!

If she was crying, I suspect someone gave her the theatrical tip I used to use on stage when i could cry real tears, and that is to put something on her fingertips that causes you to tear up. Then after you touch your eye areas with those fingers, the tears just flow and you can actually cry, sniff-sniff. OR she couldn't hear the person prompting her on her earphone and was crying for herself, knowing that, oh, crap, this might make me look bad...what do I do now, Eileen?

Fed Up said...

Jibberjabbers: Thanks for the 5 deleted scenes clip. DING DING DING, I was right, the 2nd worst Tabloid for Kate was the Steve Affair. I knew it. Watching that interview again, I have only 2 words. Horribly Pathetic. Only one more Monday & BYE BYE KATE!!! Don't care what you do & hopefully I won't even know. You'll get your wish too, no more paparazzi. Start clipping coupons. Your time is up.

Easier2B said...

This was on the MSN home page today under "The 10 Biggest Short Hair Mistakes" article. Mistake #4 is Kate. How funny! (Of course, Kate will once again think she's a celebrity.)

Mistake 4: Mixing Styles

Kate Gosselin may be partial to the smooth in front, spiky in back look, but anyone else with short, layered hair should learn from her mistakes. "Kate looks like she's using gel and hair spray to spike it up—and that's exactly what not to do." Lloyd says. "Instead, you need to smooth down the back with a dab of pomade." (We love Bumble and Bumble SumoTech.) Or, says Lloyd, "after you blow-dry it, wear a baseball cap or a ski hat for ten minutes or so. That will get the short layers under control and the cut looking more cohesive."

She's..um..RUINED said...

Go Away Gosselins! said...

Why the Jon defense?

I just saw the documents on Radar that show the written contract between Kate Major and Jon. It shows that Jon obviously was taking money from other media sources and it acknowledges him and Kate had a relationship. Jon clearly LIED and there is proof in that "contract".

There are some comments saying that Jon isn't at fault for the contract and that Kate (Gosselin) is to blame and she started it with the contract she had between her and Jon regarding dating outside of their married relationship. Come On People!!! I'm all for a good Kate Gosselin bashing and I loathe her but Jon NEEDS to be held accountable for his own actions and his stupidity cannot be blamed on Kate (Gosselin).

Jon is a lying pig.
11/18/2009 8:32 AM

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Why don't we establish that it is his actual handwriting FIRST, shall we??

jibberjabbers said...

View the inconsistencies in Kate Major's contract.

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6135/95120937.png

Not only that, she's also in breach of her on contract. LOL "I will not make any public statement about our relationships".

But she has.

Just give the kid a bagel said...

You guys! Every issue, MAD magazine does a "Celebrity cause of death betting odds". This issue they did Kate Gosselin! It's hysterical. Here are her odds of dying:

Delayed uterus implosion. . . 2:1

Multiple matricide. . . 8:1

Rubbed out by insanely jealous Octomom for stealing her thunder. . . 14:1

Fatal skull fracture after duck mistakes her ridiculous haircut for the ass of a mallard. . . 34:1

Stumbles and falls while dancing with Jon at 50th wedding anniversary party. . . 7,000,000:1

They include a great caricature of Kate, wild eyed and screaming.

I thought it was awesome. By the way, I've been cheering you guys on from the sidelines for quite a while. This site has some of the sharpest bloggers I've come across in a while.

Eat your vegetables said...

Go Away Gosselins! said...

Why the Jon defense?

I just saw the documents on Radar that show the written contract between Kate Major and Jon. It shows that Jon obviously was taking money from other media sources and it acknowledges him and Kate had a relationship. Jon clearly LIED and there is proof in that "contract".

-----------------------------------I seem to recall talk of a contract between Jon and Kate Gosselin allowing Jon to date whomever he wants as long as he keeps up with the show. And now a Kate Major "chicken scratch" contract appears. Seems like a ripped off idea. Are any of these people credible at all anymore. I'm thinking we can all be in agreence that Kate's dose of REALIST REALITY is right around the corner. One more hour of this cancer and then a Happy Thanksgiving to all!

mommadiane5 said...

Try and guess where this quote came from:Merrilee said:

"I was saddened that this was coming to an end. What will I do with my Monday nights? I loved being a part of the Gosselin family and really wish them well."

Part of the Gosselin family! My word, it is deep in there!

11/17/2009 7:40 PM


I guess Kate said it!

jibberjabbers said...

Just look at the handwriting of the "contract". Pay close attention to the letter "a"...

Midnight Serenade said...

Just look at the handwriting of the "contract". Pay close attention to the letter "a"...
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She uses two different versions of the "a." Is that what you are referring to? I sometimes print and write in a document, and often catch myself using three different letter forms in the same paragraph!
Maybe I'm missing something. Do tell!

Eat your vegetables said...

jibberjabbers said...
Just look at the handwriting of the "contract". Pay close attention to the letter "a".........................
------------------------------------I followed your link to the "contract". LOL, was it written on a cocktail napkin? Maybe Kate Major should have had it pretend notarized before releasing it.

Sail Away said...

Just Give The Kid a Bagel: Enjoyed your post!

Welcome!

fidosmommy said...

Mistake 4: Mixing Styles

Kate Gosselin may be partial to the smooth in front, spiky in back look, but anyone else with short, layered hair should learn from her mistakes. "Kate looks like she's using gel and hair spray to spike it up—and that's exactly what not to do." Lloyd says..... "after you blow-dry it, wear a baseball cap or a ski hat for ten minutes or so. That will get the short layers under control and the cut looking more cohesive."

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That explains Kate's hats.

redskiesatnight said...

Re: The Kate Major/Jon contract.

Interesting how there is no specifics with respect to the percentage that Kate Major is to receive. The contract does NOT specifically state the type of compensation (ie monetary) or a specific % amount Kate Major is to receive. As a previous poster already mentioned, there is no evidence that the contract and signatures were witnessed or notorized.

she is evil said...

Kate is busted, I am also suspicious that Kate does something to make her eyes tear up. She often dabs her eyes before you see tears and somehow those tears never roll down her cheek, do they? She also doesn't need to use her Kleenex to wipe her nose, just her eyes. I became suspicious of her during the "Jon stole all my money" interview when she appeared to be touching her eyes with the Kleenex. I figured she was irritating them on purpose by getting the tissue too close to her eyes, but I now think you're right. I'll betcha anything she had something on that Kleenex to make her tear up. Shameless, I tell you. Crying is a waste of time for anyone else, but for Kate, "crying" is okay, especially if you're buying time to hear what is being fed to you in your earpiece.

Gimme a break I sure deserve it said...

Today my 10 year old daughter caught a show about J&K on the tv guide channel(Jon and Kate from love to hate). She got up made at note on the calendar. When I checked it, on June 22, she had written: "Jon and Kate divois".

How sad is that?!

Jane in California said...

Re: Kate's obvious use of an ear piece in that Natalie Morales "interview" (aka, complete hogwash). Natalie had to know what was going on. Clearly she was in on it, whether willingly or not. I think any truly reputable journalist wouldn't be a participant to such baloney.

Im_in_PR said...

Re: Kate's obvious use of an ear piece in that Natalie Morales "interview" (aka, complete hogwash). Natalie had to know what was going on. Clearly she was in on it, whether willingly or not. I think any truly reputable journalist wouldn't be a participant to such baloney.

Money talks.

jibberjabbers said...

That contract seems legitimate. I just compared the signature with Jon's old speeding citation and they look very similar.

nanb said...

jibberjabbers said...
That contract seems legitimate. I just compared the signature with Jon's old speeding citation and they look very similar.
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But what is she going to sue about?

Kate Major quit as reporter of a national tabloid to be a personal assistant of a D list celebrity? No, actually she resigned before this supposed contract! She resigned before 7/24 the first reports, this contract was 7/28.

My guess: she was given the choice to resign or be fired and chose to leave. Then while out drinking with Jon boy, he says yea you can be my personal assistant on a scrap of paper. He did it to shut her up but she never did.

He'll be broke by then anyway.
According to ROL (on 7/28) she has also claimed to be related to Paris Hilton etc. It should be fun to take her deposition.

MomIAm said...

In Pennsylvania, what age will the children be when they can choose which parent to live with? Do they have that option? In the case of a custody battle where one parent is given custody, the kids in my state can decide at age 12 to live with the other parent.

TeamJon said...

Looks like Jon is trying to make light of the situation...lol

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/jon-gosselin-goes-back-in-time

BarbMae said...

Oh my gosh can anyone else sue Jon? My sage advice to Jon Gosselin. Jon, get a great lawyer!!! One that can actually practice law in Penn and Maryland. Dump Heller. Jon, when you get this lawyer, listen to what he has to say. Jon, stay off ET and the Insider telling "your" side of the story. Jon, stay away from 20'sh women. Jon dump your paps friend. Get a decent photographer to take pictures of you w/the kids, like Kate did when she took the tups to the park and took the trash out. Kate didn't look uncomfortable in the park so IMO she had an "approved" photog showing what a good mother she is. Jon, move back to Penn., stay away from New York. I've said this many times before, Jon, just shut up, go home, and get a great lawyer!! JMHO.

PA Woman said...

Go Away Gosselins! said...
Why the Jon defense?

I just saw the documents on Radar that show the written contract between Kate Major and Jon. It shows that Jon obviously was taking money from other media sources and it acknowledges him and Kate had a relationship. Jon clearly LIED and there is proof in that "contract".
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Sorry, I'm having a hard time taking this thing seriously. It's a "contract" written on a bar napkin, 2 days after Kate was fired/quit. I also believe she was handed her walking papers by Star. So the way I see it, she's complaining that she doesn't have a job over a drink with Jon, and he says' oh I'll hire you and the write a contract on a napkin. This was two people joking around over a drink. If it was serious they would have followed through with a formal contract. Kate's just using it to get back at Jon. I think this part will blow up in her face, if TLC's or her own lawyers try an use this "contract" in court.

Go Away Gosselins! said...

She's..um..RUINED said...

Why don't we establish that it is his actual handwriting FIRST, shall we??

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I am going to believe this until I see proof that it is not true. I put NOTHING past Jon (or Kate Gosselin) at this point and this is just another despicable thing that he has done.

I was completely giving Jon the benefit of the doubt at the beginning of the summer but after months of seeing his trashy behavior, I don't think that this "contract" he signed is a far-fetched behavior for him.

Go Away Gosselins! said...

PA Woman said...

Sorry, I'm having a hard time taking this thing seriously. It's a "contract" written on a bar napkin, 2 days after Kate was fired/quit.

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I completely agree with the posts that say the "contract" was written on a bar napkin and wasn't notarized and isn't valid. I'm not at all saying that this "contract" will be upheld in court. I guess my point is after all this mess I put nothing past Jon or Kate Gosselin and it is just another stupid thing he has done (and I don't put it past him to sign a "contract" like that).

My original post was more about why do people defend Jon and blame Kate Gosselin for his stupidity and his awful behavior. As terrible of a person Kate is, Jon is no better and should be help accountable for his own actions.

Sorry if my original post focused more on the "contract"....I was just using that as an example of how there are pro-Jon comments on Radar blaming Kate Gosselin for his dumb actions.

karma train said...

This morning, the tummy tuck episode was on.
She wasn't the greatest parent or spouse then, but she was not that bad as compared to the monster she has become now.

When she was about to go into surgery, she and Jon embraced, he prayed a prayer for her, and it brought tears to my eyes.
Tears for allowing a network to destroy a marriage and a family. Tears for destroying 2 adults and 8 children, all of whom will wrestle with emotional/psychological issues forever. The damage reaches farther than their immediate family; it reaches their friends, their extended family.
(I know all the stories of gimmies, bills paid by others, etc., but I think Jon and Kate were still happily married, so I will cut them some slack-heck, I guess I am feeling compassionate today!)

Tlc is not 100% at fault, but they were the one that tempted the gosselin's with a poison apple. God help all of them. Judgment will be harsh.

an attorney said...

There is no need for a contract to be notarized or witnessed in order to make it legal. Contracts can be boiled down to three things: Was an offer made? Was the offer accepted? Was there consideration? Contracts can be very informal, verbal, or handwritten on anything there is handy--there have been many such contracts and they do stand up in court.

BarbMae said...

Well here it comes. In the next few days J&K are going to sit down with an arbritrator and hash out their divorce. I am bracing myself for the onslaught of media coverage for these two. ROL reports that Jon might try to prolong the discussions until after the TLC lawsuit starts. Again, does he even have a lawyer that can represent him in PA? He better get off his surf board in Hawaii and get back to PA pronto. IMO he is going to be eaten alive and end up with very little if anything. In regards to custody of the children with his antics he may lose joint custody and just become the every other weekend Dad. I wish I could meet Jon and club him up side of the head to knock some sense into him. Stop acting like a cave man and get proper handlers around you. He dug his own grave but is not making any plausible efforts to dig out. Should be interesting.

groovymom00 said...

karma train said...
This morning, the tummy tuck episode was on.
She wasn't the greatest parent or spouse then, but she was not that bad as compared to the monster she has become now.

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I saw that too, and the only thing that really jumped out at me was that not only did Kate take the Glassman's generous offer of a free tummy tuck, but she then tried to weasel a free boob job too! And not once did I hear her thank the Glassman's for anything, including letting her recover in their own house.
Even back then the monster was there, but it just wasn't as big and greedy and obvious as it is now.

Sail Away said...

In response to another blogger noting the growing marital discord now being highlighted by TLC's footage, I'm wondering why TLC doesn't change their moniker to The Divorce Channel?

In the Barn said...

Karma Train noted, "This morning, the tummy tuck episode was on.
She wasn't the greatest parent or spouse then, but she was not that bad as compared to the monster she has become now."
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Even back then K8 was unable to completely veil her narcissism. She commented that the post op interval 'was like a painful honeymoon - we didn't argue once!'

Well, sure, so long as her spouse is willing to drop everything (including his job responsibilities) and dedicate every waking breath to catering to Kate's every whim, MAYBE they won't argue. But this is not something I'd want to count on long term. Afterall, K8 is the person who verbally disemboweled her husband on camera for breathing 'too loud'.

NO OFFENSE INTENDED and I hate to burst anyone's bubble, but pre-op prayerful hugs are what SELLS to the audience they were going for then. Back when they were going church to church, expecting 'love offerings'. They sold religion and marital love & fidelity to a church-going group - marketing, it's all about marketing.

Im_in_PR said...

IMO he is going to be eaten alive and end up with very little if anything

So true, I totally agree. I have seen people with the best case in the world hire a so-so lawyer and lose big time.

It's all about the lawyer at this point and Snake Oil Hellar seems bent on allowing Jon to lose the kids if it means that Jon gets some kind of "TV" career.

Jon and Kate both remind me of Jessica Savitch in the sense that they are both surrounded by sycophant and yes men who make their paycheck off the couple's misdeeds.

All of the kids money wated and p*ssed away on lawyers, PR people, and "security" because these two were so stupid and did nothing but listen to the the "yes men" and "women" who told them "You're a star, I checked your Google stats and you are more popular than Michael Jackson."

jibberjabbers said...

The contract they both signed is useless. It doesn't mention how much she would get paid, and how long she would be his manager.

It's a shoulda, woulda, coulda contract.

She is suing for breach of contract? IMO they both breached the contract.

PJ said...

Midnight Serenade said...
Honestly, I'm surprised Kate hasn't upset the wrong person yet. It's bound to happen, though -- she keeps opening her mouth.

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I think she did. Wasn't the previous owner of the house (the doctor) mighty upset over her "filty conditions" remark and was compensated by TLC?


I don't remember hearing this. It doesn't seem to have bothered TLC much as they are still talking about a show with her in the spring.

an attorney said...

Jibberjabbers--A contract will not fail just because all terms have not been supplied. Whether or not this contract will stand or not is something for a judge to decide, but there is an argument to be made that the contract was valid, and that in the alternative Kate Major detrimentally relied on his representations to her that he would hire her (i.e. there may be a quasi-contract).

an attorney said...

Also, if there is a contract, if Jon breached first, Kate was no longer under any obligation to continue with the terms of the contract. Once Jon was in breach she could go talk to whomever she wanted. That she did not hold to the contract after he breached does not mean that the contract is "void" because they both "breached" in your words. Once there is a breach, the other person is under no obligation to continue with the terms.

jibberjabbers said...

Also, if there is a contract, if Jon breached first, Kate was no longer under any obligation to continue with the terms of the contract. Once Jon was in breach she could go talk to whomever she wanted. That she did not hold to the contract after he breached does not mean that the contract is "void" because they both "breached" in your words. Once there is a breach, the other person is under no obligation to continue with the terms.

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You're not making any sense and just contradicted yourself in the same paragraph.

1st you said Jon breached the contract and that Kate can now do whatever she wants.

Then you said, the contract isn't void. LOL

Which is it?

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Besides, TLC is just USING Kate as a character witness.

MickeyMcKean said...

ROL made a booboo ... in the middle of the post re James Caan divorcing after 14 years of marriage -- is a link about Jon and Kate going to meet in the next few days about their divorce!

Or if it was not a booboo, ROL is inclined to believe that in the middle of other newsy tidbits to go ahead and put a link re anything Gosselin as that is what people are interested in. Uh huh. Wake up ROL. The Gosselins are leaving the building, no need to follow them so extensively in the future.

sillyrabbit said...

The contract they both signed is useless. It doesn't mention how much she would get paid, and how long she would be his manager.

I agree. Furthermore, If Kate Major was so dependant on the terms and conditions as the means to support herself financially, so much so that she quit her position at Star Magazine, she #1 must have been blind sided by HER lust for Jon #2 drunk #3 or just plain stupid because the 'contract' does not provide exact details as to what HER percentage would be. The 'contract' is also rather assuming in its 'promise' considering the fact that Kate Major's percentage is based on SOME BUT NOT ALL of Jon's 'business deals' but does not define specifically what the 'some' but not 'all' are.
0% of the SOME BUT NOT ALL equals 0 %! Stupid is as Stupid Does!

jasmine said...

I'm still trying to figure out what the contract was between Jon and Kate Major. If it's the scribble signed on a cocktail napkin, how could that be legitimate? What is wrong with these two? People don't even give out their real names or phone numbers on cocktail napkins.

KyPastor said...

I also am disturbed by the assumption that Kate made Jon behave a certain way or that Jon made Kate behave a certain way.

Your actions are your own. No matter what outside influences there are, you alone are responsible for your choices and your actions. Kate is responsible for every unkind word that has come out of her mouth. Jon is responsible for every immature
action he has taken. Enough with the finger pointing to excuse one's own behavior. Jon, Kate did not "make" you do anything. Kate, Jon has not "made" you do anything. I don't care how annoying the other person was, you made a unilateral decision to act how you acted. You could have made much better decisions if you had only stopped long enough to think. Take responsibility for yourself, and give your children the gift of learning how to think before leaping.

Mature adults do not slap when annoyed. They discuss and resolve.

Mature adults do not have affairs,
much less flaunt them in their spouses' faces. They work together
to either patch it up or bring it to an end, freeing them up to find a new relationship.

Mature adults do not take their marital grievances to the media.
They keep them private, especially shielding their children from it.

Mature adults are able to support themselves and their children without relying on the mode o' day.
What TV show lasts forever? A backup plan is well worth the effort. Consider it insurance.

Even so, Jon and Kate, none of your missteps found here excuses your blaming the other for them.
Own up to it, admit you made very bad choices (both of you) and put an end to the misery that has seeped across an entire continent.
It is time to be grown ups, for the sake of your family.

an attorney said...

Jibberjabbers, I didn't contradict myself. I stated that the contract was breached. A breached contract is not a void contract, and vice versa. A breached contract is one where a party fails to perform their end of the bargain, thus the other party does not have to perform. A void contract is one in which neither party has to perform because of a defect in the contract.

Shoshanna said...

I just went to the Celebrity Gossip website for the first time and clicked through a gazillion Kate Gosselin
photos. In almost every photo, that damn pink phone is either stickin out of her pocket, in her hand or
at her ear, with her jabbering away.

HOWEVER: the only photos where the phone is nowhere to be seen are... (you guessed it) the
photos where Kate is with Steve Neild.

This falls under the category of "Things That Make
You Go Hmmm..."

Anne said...

MomIam,

RE:The age kids can decide about which parent they can live with. 12 is the age when a judge starts to take serious consideration a child's wishes, but the child can't decide. The child deciding is 14 in a few states 16 in the majority of states.

With kids under 12 a home study can be ordered by a judge, in which a neutral party comes in and watches the children with both parents. They also interview both parents about their relationship with their kids and how well they know them.

I had a friend with a rich ex (who didn't want to pay support) and tried to get custody. When they did the homestudy, one of the reasons the custody was not given to the father is because he did not know the kids. He could not name their favorite foods, colors, what subjects they did well in school in etc. They could tell he was not invovled to the extent he said he was.

I wonder how Kate would do if the she was interviewed on each kid? I guess she would have to study up with all the not a nannies.

Eat your vegetables said...

ANNE SAID.....I wonder how Kate would do if the she was interviewed on each kid? I guess she would have to study up with all the not a nannies.
=================================== No worries! HairDon't has all the children's likes and dislikes on those flashcards she spread on the couch during the "Her Story" episode. I just hope she has the right names on their pictures!

Just My Few Canadian Cents said...

Eat your vegetables said...
ANNE SAID.....
(Regarding a social worker interviewing Kate during a custody assessment:)

"I wonder how Kate would do if the she was interviewed on each kid? I guess she would have to study up with all the not a nannies.

No worries! HairDon't has all the children's likes and dislikes on those flashcards she spread on the couch during the "Her Story" episode. I just hope she has the right names on their pictures!"

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I'm sure Kate would do just fine in the study. She'll just grow her hair out even longer to better hide her earpiece!

Shoshanna said...

Did you ever notice that, while Kate is always
manicured, pedicured, tanned, earringed, high-heeled
and well-coiffed (in her opinion), when the girls
are with her their hair is always a mess. Looks like
it hasn't been brushed for a week.

I think that the original Earth Mother, Kate, should
treat herself to a little less time trying to beautify
herself (it's like placing a sugar coating on a turd) and give a bit more time and attention to her kids.

But then I hink, "Naaah. It's Kate!"

Nova said...

Childhood Memories I Wish The Gosselin 8 Could Have

Hearing about how many people have fond childhood memories of baseball games made me think. For me, the little horse shows were the best. There were usually less than 100 people, and the shows are in outlying areas, so there were always patches of woods nearby, with streams to play in, and usually a big pile of dirt where the kids would play with their Tonka Toys. There were always other kids to play with. Not everyone there had a horse, they just loved to come and have a fun day watching the show. Some families brought their kids bikes, and the kids would race each other up and down the dirt road leading to the arena. There was usually someone who would give kids rides on their horse, and everyone was familiar with each other, so if my folks couldn't see just where each of us five kids were, there was an adult somewhere nearby to keep things safe. There was always a point where the show stopped, and a bale of straw was opened up and spread on the ground. The adults would donate change and sprinkle it among the straw, cover with more straw, and turn all the 10-and-under kids loose to go find the change. Afterwards, we'd all hit the concession stand. The only cameras were the ones the spectators brought so they could snap personal photos, hopefully of their wins. I wish the Gosselin kids could have more things like that to remember.

MomIAm said...

KyPastor what you said is true to a certain extent but you are not allowing for emotional abuse over many years. "Your actions are your own. No matter what outside influences there are, you alone are responsible for your choices and your actions. Kate is responsible for every unkind word that has come out of her mouth. Jon is responsible for every immature
action he has taken. Enough with the finger pointing to excuse one's own behavior. Jon, Kate did not "make" you do anything. Kate, Jon has not "made" you do anything. I don't care how annoying the other person was, you made a unilateral decision to act how you acted. You could have made much better decisions if you had only stopped long enough to think. "


Before the divorce, my perception from watching the show was that Kate directed everything and threw temper tantrums to get her own way. I know someone who is being controlled that way. The wife in that situation puts down her husband because she is the one who is insecure and because she fights to spend every penny they save. As he becomes immune to her latest tactics, she escalates her yelling and put downs. We saw that on the show over the years. The episodes that ran early this year were really bad. It happens gradually. The word "annoyed" does not come close to what Jon experienced.

So what happens after all those faithful, demeaning years. Jon starts to speak up for the family, and apparently Kate dumped him in Oct of last year. When was the trip to South Korea planned? Was that one of the reasons for her discontent?

You just can't imagine what it is like to live with someone who is abusive and how that person takes over your life. There are women who you would never think would take physical/emotional abuse from their husbands but it happens frequently to many women (and men too). Families don't hear about it because the abuser isolates the other person from their family. What I observed was more than being "unkind". What I observed, I classify as being "cruel". Just look at one example: if your kids thanked you for something, would you tell them to tell someone who cares like Kate did? My reaction would have been to hug and kiss each one, not to make some snippy, uncalled for comment.

I don't know how others live in the privacy of their homes in this country but with so many accepting the behavior we saw on TV in the Gosselin home, I wonder how people treat their loved ones. My life is not like the TV shows we see in reruns on the very old TV sitcoms, but it is far from the misery and discord shown on JK+8.

This isn't so much about what happened after Jon and Kate split in Oct 2008, but more about what went on when they were together. After, it probably took Jon a long time to recover and he may still be in that process. IMO Kate thought she could go onward and upward without Jon holding her back by not accepting every "treat" that came their way, but that didn't happen. Today she is still holding on to TLC and a possible future show. Once she realizes that won't happen, she may join Jon in the TLC lawsuit. Though I suspect TLC may hold out the carrot until that lawsuit is over.

Everyone is at fault in this situation. However, with all the money they made, TLC should set up a million dollar trust fund for each of those kids and/or pay them retroactively for their work.

My perceptions about the show were formed on my own by watching the show. I was appalled by the words and actions of Kate.

Sweetp said...

When I walked out of Starbucks this morning (in my stiletto boots) I wondered to myself.. "Does this make me a horrible person?" I cannot stand Kate,however my opinion of her has nothing to do with the shoes she wears and everything to do with her pathetic attitude and horrible personality. That being said, if any of us were in her shoes (God forbid) I'm pretty sure we wouldn't want to be photographed in sweats and old t-shirts with our double chin hanging to our waist. I'll also admit that if I had the money I probably wouldn't mind a nip and a tuck which, according to most posters, is vain and shallow, but in reality very human. I on the other hand wouldn't put my children to work to pay for such vanities. I think it's normal to fixate on a person's every flaw when you dislike them as much as most of us dislike Kate, but the whole high heel thing is kind of a sore spot with me since I am a self-proclaimed "Shoe Whore". All that being said, even I'll admit that Kate wears some butt ugly heels (those disgusting white wedges come to mind immediately). In answer to the question about heels and driving, I'm sure they could get caught I've just never had it happen to me and I wear heels all the time and have since I was a teenager (I'm now in my 40's).

Calamity Jane said...

I know that there had been talk about Oprah and her new channel with Discovery, and that that was why she had invited them on in the past and hasn't commented on the current deplorable situation. Looks like it's official.

Oprah Winfrey says her powerhouse daytime television show will end its run in 2011 after 25 seasons on the air...Winfrey, 55, is widely expected to start up a new talk show on OWN: The Oprah Winfrey Network, a much-delayed joint venture with Discovery Communications Inc. that is projected to debut in 2011. OWN is to replace the Discovery Health Channel and will debut in some 74 million homes.

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mom-of-one said...

did you see the US Weekly pic of kate with fangs? hilarious.

PA Woman said...

jibberjabbers said...
Besides, TLC is just USING Kate as a character witness.

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Interesting. What is the crediblity of someone that worked for Star, and couldn't even keep her job there?

Sorry, of the women recently in Jon's past, she is the one I am least likely to believe.

karma train said...

Sweetp,

You answered our own question! No, you are not a horrible person because you love shoes.
I bet you earned the money for those shoes yourself.
You didn't pimp out your kids for cash.

anotherthing... said...

Sweetp said...
When I walked out of Starbucks this morning (in my stiletto boots) I wondered to myself.. "Does this make me a horrible person?" ...."
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Hey Sweetp!!!

Your post reminded me of some thoughts Ive had along the way. and no... I dont think you are anything like Kate. lol

I too wear heels. Go to the Bux reglarly. Drive a nice car. had a few appointments at the vanity Dr. if you get my drift.

But.... we didnt go and pay with the money made by pimping out our kids private lives on national TV.

There is a huge difference in the lives we lead and life Kate leads. *Many* HUGE differences actually.

I dont think there is anything wrong with a woman wanting to look nice and/or feel good about herself. But Kate does this/attempts to do this in very innapropriate ways. She fails miserably most of the time and that is why I mock her.

She misses the mark in the fashion arena most every time (who is she dressing for again???). As far as Starbucks goes, people give her a hard time about the "ONLY ORGANIC" crap she shrieks on the show/the growing doubt that coffee is actually in that cup.

So its not really *what* shes doing but how/why shes doing it and how she (the kids) paid for it.

So... I think both you & I are in the clear with our shoes, coffee and other ventures. ;)

anotherthing... said...

Shoshanna said...

"...I think that the original Earth Mother, Kate, should
treat herself to a little less time trying to beautify
herself (it's like placing a sugar coating on a turd)..."

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I about died laughing.

My mascara is now down my face....

but it was so worth it!!!

Beach Lover said...

OMG, mom-of-one, I just went to see that vampire picture of Khate on US Weekly site. Funny, but that is pretty much how I always see her. And, sadly, don't you know that's what the kids see when she rages at them?

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