Oct 31, Tabloids, Antics, Appearances, and other Diversions

The saga continues and continues and continues.

118 comments:

Pamela Jaye said...

I don't know if I said something wrong, posted in the wrong place or was just too close to a deadline, but let me give it another shot and see.

This post isn't directed *at* anyone, even the person, I quoted, it's just another POV. And it looks like I wrote it before 7:22 last night.

I forgot to mention that promos always make things sound more scandalous than they end up being in the complete story.

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as posted
If it's so difficult to have been 'robbed' of your anonymity and privacy, WHY tell your tale on nat'l tv and to tabloid publications?

you all are going to hate me.
I've only seen part one of this, because of the time it aired yesterday, but so far, the girl is making sense. (I may have missed a lot of posts - for some reason someone is talking about Oprah's son)

She's what? 22, 23?
She's apparently "between" school.
This guy is living in her house. And, according to all I've heard and sensed, Jon is - when he's not a messed up kid - a friendly guy (unlike Kate).
So she falls for him.
And then, because he's famous and she's 22 - she is "seen with him."

cont'd

Pamela Jaye said...

Gee, if people could know the things I did when I was 20. But they didn't, cause the person I though I love was Not A Public Figure with a bunch of paparazzi following everywhere.

The press (or maybe a "friend" out of a quick buck) takes her facebook pictures and they are all over the press.
Now, when I was 22, I didn't smoke, rarely drank, never did drugs - but isn't that what a lot of kids do?

Isn't that why there are so many articles about Watch What You Put on Your Facebook Page? When I was 22 my coworkers were partying and snorting coke. I heard about it in the elevator.

So with a long delay between TLC shooting and TLC airing, people think oh dear! This woman seduced a happily married man away from his wife!
How many people here think Jon was happily married?

Life goes on. Pictures come out. Reputations are shattered. People on the internet are calling her fat, magazines are calling her Homewrecker, and *someone* in her band of "friends" is stoking the fire.

Maybe I'm just naive. Maybe she could have just said no. Maybe no one here did anything stupid when they were 22.

Now she complains of abuse. But when you hear what the abuse is - Jon's moaning to her about all the crap going on in his life?? and she wants to go, but when she tries, he begs her to stay cause she's the only one that makes him feel better?
Jon isn't all grown up yet, either.

So after all these months of having your private life splayed out for America to judge you on (and apparently they do (and who cares what she weighs? and has she done anything evil as compared to Kate?)) then the guy you "love" starts venting on you, but begging you not to leave.

And then a talk show offers you a chance to tell your side of it all.

Of course all of us would be big enough to take the high road
and let America keep calling us names.

She says she loves him (she's probably too young to know what love is, so I'll let that go), she says she would leave him, except that he cries and begs when she tries. (I've seen that happen.)
She doesn't know how to deal with emotional vampires (my friend and I talk about this phenomenon a lot, her mom's a shrink and all her friends are basket cases). But at least she's learned the word.

Sounds like counseling is needed all around. (Hailey needs a bit, Jon needs to not stop, and Kate needs to be committed).

Maybe part two will change my mind, but so far, everything that's happening here makes sense to me. (I don't think you should even date a guy who hasn't been divorced legally for at least a year, but that's me. Now. I had to flee to Florida when my ex, who was still married to wife #2, starting making noises of wanting to be with me again. The temptation might have been too much for me. I ran. I put 1450 miles between us.)

She's 22 (or 23) and she's not equipped to handle all this. So maybe I'm naive as I said, but I hadn't the height of wisdom at 22. When she cries, I don't think "fake tears" like Kate - I think of me at 22, and I want to give her a hug (and a gift certificate for counseling. I'm not really sure what co-dependent means, but maybe this is it).

Okay, go ahead now and start throwing things at me.

Savannah said...

I just watched the Ellen Show clip on youtube.Kate wasted no time pulling the boo-boo face out of the bag and trying to manipulate the tone for the whole interview.
i am a big Ellen fan as well and I think she handle her as well as could be expected.
Kate definitely contradicts herself constantly. But then again, most people see straight through her lines of bu**sh**. Jon does need to stay back and let her hang herself. It's obvious that Kate still knows how to push his buttons even though they're apart.She knows he is immature and she can get away with invoking his anger to suit her purpose.
Alexis telling Kate about her friend from school may have been a need for AQlexis to talk about her feelings. However,Kate's answer sounds as if she dismissed her with a quickie-fix (leave Mommy alone)response. Kate's plate is just too full to devote any time for "the emotional stability" she squawked about when they were infants. To me, yes-Kate is accustomed to this Fanasty Lifestyle that she does not wish to relinguish just so quickly. She did however "envision" J&K+8 being pulled with plans of a Kate Show in the works. Drats, lol, looks like now she'll be out of a job until she can get this up and rolling :(
One last thing, how can she sit there and make the comment that the kids bcaould each afford their own diammond ring "when they get jobs." Even worse, why did the audience laugh. OMG, sickening. Thesze sheeple are as dense as Kate. Scary thought. Collectly, there are other Mothers out there that idolize Kate. How screwed up are their kids gonna be? And all based on lies. AMother of 8, who still claims that she would die before she would ever put even one of her chidren in harms way, shops for ONLY ORGANIC foods (and then cooks, haha) for her family and is so well organized. She is everything to everyone, not to mention, has time to write 2 books and with such style and grace. I wish people would understand that they are everything that she claims to be, except she is a liar.Everything she does is for the camera. Since the day those infants were born...1st) NICU took care of them, including Beth Carson, a volunteer at the hospital...right on home-2nd)a home full of helpers/volunteers and then moved over to 3rd) Jodi & Kevin's neighborhood and etc..along the way, Kate snatched on to who she could use to further her plan along? And that's about when, she claims, she and Jon received the "infamous e-mail. So when has she ever done anything on her own? And when she did-all we heard was insults and orders thrown around as well as degrading, ungrateful comments to all the gifts and trips they received along the way.
I have to believe that this will be the end of the line. So many good, honest hard-working people she juust tosses aside. None of whom believe in revenge nor we would have seen some sort of retaliation throughout all this. Believe me, the tabloids would have dug them up. I choose to still believe in what goes around, comes around. She's burned too many bridges to go back now.Maybe that's why she adopted the motto "Forward, we can never go back." Good Luck Lady.

gotmagikbeans4sale said...

Does anyone remember a few months ago when Kate was on Regis and Kelly, and Regis told Kate that in a couple of months Jon would get his sh*t together and come and apologize to her and that they would wind up living happily ever after....Kate looked at Regis like he was suffering from Dementia and said no I don't think so....My guess is that Reg got an advance copy of the script ideas from tlc and spilled the beans..Or Reg is a secret psychic and we are just finding out about it..Because IRONICALLY enough....JON IS APOLOGIZING..he apparently does not like how Hailey Glassman plays in the sandbox and he has packed up his toys to go home...some lame attempt at working this out is bound to come down the pipeline...The whole friggin' thing makes me want to thrust my crochet hook into my eye, just so I don't have to see them anymore.

The other thing that is bothering me in a huge way right now is Jon's claim of being half-jewish.....JON....Dating someone who is Jewish does not in any way entitle you to claim such a rich and beautiful heritage...I have a brother-in-law that is Jewish and have been celebrating holidays with him for the last 14 years...including Passover, Yom Kipur, Chaunakah, Purim....this however, does not make me JEWISH.....It makes him Jewish!
I don't know what they are trying to sell now, but I am not buying it. I am still sitting here with the 50 lbs of f*%@ing magical beans they sold us the last time.

bcsurvivor2001 said...

Tiffany said...
I just came across something that stunned me...and with everything the loonies involved with this trainwreck have done I shouldn't be so surprised. The celebrity rabbi who Jon is meeting with on Sunday (publicly and for a FEE to the audience) has had a show on TLC - Shalom in the Home. And according to wikipedia is currently developing a new series with The Learning Channel! WHAT??? This rabbi is affiliated with the very channel that Jon Gosselin professes to hate, the ones who screwed him over, the same ones who are suing him? Isn't this a conflict of interest? Or does this point to a well masterminded plan? I've never thought Jon has the brains to mastermind a plan but this is more than suspicious. Could this interview and spiritual counseling of Jon be the premise or episode of a new TLC show perhaps?

10/30/2009 8:07 PM
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At this point I think I'd believe just about anything with these 2. Haily goes on Tabloid TV to cry and then subsequently break-up with Jon. The infamous recent nanny spills he's suicidal. He now meets with yet another TV professional/rabbi

Spin, spin spin

I wrote in another post that I wouldn't be one bit surprised if we didn't now hear about an attempted suicide.......it's all building up. He has absolutely no where else to turn at this point - so the attempt to end it all "for the sake of the kids" wouldn't be a stretch with this couple (in my paranoid little mind)

Elizabeth K. said...

If this has already been mentioned, I apologize, but has anyone else heard there is a J&K+8 MOVIE in the works? I was listening to the morning mash-up on Sirius radio yesterday and they mentioned it in the celebrity news segment. I hope it was a joke, but it didn't really sound like it was. Seriously, who in their right mind would think this was a good idea?

MBach said...

I am almost done here.

Every week it is some new stupid something to KEEP the Gosselin Brand alive - like a monster on Halloween! Kate did this, Jon did that, another woman claims to have had sex with Jon, Kate is on some show "sobbing" crying poor or laughing her heehaw head off over some wonderful thing SHE said, the woman Jon now claims to love is being abused by him -oh, but she still loves him. It just doesn't end. Nothing seems to knock them out for long either - balloon boy is fading, and the Gosselin's are coming back strong.

Man, what a circus freak show -with my apologizes to real circus people.

I am trying to hang in there, because of the kids. I'm trying to keep positive about the kids having a real life. I still want the show to end, because of the kids. I am sick of NOT watching, sick of NOT buying stuff that advertises on the show, sick of seeing J&K's faces over and over on magazines, and just so very tired of hearing about them.

Maybe it is just because this is Halloween, but isn't this like a monster/slasher movie. The monster is dead. No it gets up! The monster is really dead this time. OH NO it gets up again!
Don't turn your back on it, there is some new trick coming......wait for it.....OH NO here comes another Gosselin shocking story!
Run away, run away!

Janine said...

I can't imagine Jon or K8 ever attempting for any reason to try again. I can see Jon trying for the sake of their kids to be healthy, honest and supportive.
The show, even if they can paste some scraps of film together is over.
It would be an interesting show, I think... if they left all 8 children out... only hinting at the healthy activities they are doing, while Jon and K8 go into intensive therapy and wind up loving co-parents who are also good neighbors (compassion, selflessness,modesty,generosity, forgiveness,). I could be drawn into a show like that. Watch as TLC takes this couple at the end of their sanity rope and they get and emotional makeover. TLC does whatever it takes to restore the values they helped destroy.

Was the sweet lady who passed this week the one who helped Jon growing up, or the other one who folded laundry? I am sorry, I get them mixed up. God be with her family.

the scoop said...

MBach said...
I am almost done here. Every week it is some new stupid something to KEEP the Gosselin Brand alive
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You got it, MBach! The Jon & Kate "Reconciliation Announcment" is coming soon, people.
Things were planned-out by J&K. Hailey is in on it.

Watch for more. hehe

cheryl said...

For the ratings, let's schedule an evening with Dr. Laura, Jon & Kate!

Lucy said...

I went to one of my favourite gossip blogs and for the first time ever there was a story on Jon Gosselin ( re breakup with Hailey Glassman). The poor blog host was immediately and vehemently blasted in the comments section about their seeing writing a story about anything Gosselin! The story has been removed! Lol. People are getting sick and tired of all this Gosselin crap and lies.

Rose said...

Elizabeth K...yes, I hear that too, about the Jon and Kate movie. I remember reading that a few months ago somewhere, I think in the Chicago Sun Times. Apparently, Kate is planning on also writing a tell-all book about "raising her family in the public consciousness." Anything to earn money, right? She'll coax someone into writing it for her, repeating all her same lies and laments, and then she'll probably get rewarded for it with another best-seller. Sigh. The charade will never go away until the public decides it's time to stop contributing to her paycheck - and I don't know how long that will take, especially since many people still watch Kate, even though they hate her, because they want to see what ridiculous thing she'll say/do next. Sheeple and haters alike will buy the book out of interest alone, but she'll still get the money either way.

marj said...

I just (painfully I might add) watched the youtube of Kate on Ellen.

First off, it was really fun watching Kate constantly yank on her mini-skirt so that the world didn't see her biz-ness. If this mini-skirt keeps up next thing you know we'll be seeing her getting out a limo like britt showing off her c-section scar.

Next up:
Seriously, did Kate really discuss with her kids the ring with 8 diamonds and a mother of pearl?! Yeah, because 5 year olds are SO very excited about their mom getting a new diamond ring. *EYEROLL* Or was she just asking their permission to spend THEIR money on HER new ring? What not a better excuse to buy yourself eight diamonds.

Then Ellen says something like "each of them should get a ring with one diamond in it"
and Kate has the gall to say "when they get a job"?! Uhhh dont all eight of your kids current HAVE a job...that is footing your lifestyle bill.

GOOD GRIEF!

I think it would take a tow truck to pull Kate Gosselin's head out of her tight, liposuctioned, worked out butt.

Pamela Jaye said...

The charade will never go away until the public decides it's time to stop contributing to her paycheck - and I don't know how long that will take, especially since many people still watch Kate, even though they hate her, because they want to see what ridiculous thing she'll say/do next.

reading the scoop proposing the "Jon & Kate Reconciliation Announcement" - I think that would do it for me.

darn that the show is on at 9, not 8. I'd be happy to propose everyone watch Chuck instead. (but it won't be back till January anyway)

the thought of Jon going back to that?

silimom said...

Pamela Jaye: No one is going to throw things at you. Your points are sound.I think one of the reasons people ARE caught up in this drama is that alot of people have been or know people who have been in situations like this - bad divorce, making poor choices, etc. and so on some level they relate. Watching this mess is a way for people to process their own experiences if for no other reason to say " There but for the Grace of God go I" or "my life may be bad but at least I'm not as f'd up as those people".

One thing I would caution however: whatever your or anyone else's experience, try not to project it onto these people and assume they're seeing it or experiencing it the same as you are or did. They are their own unique individuals and their is history and back story going back to their own childhoods that we know nothing of nor, in my opinion, should we. As I tell my kids (although in a different context) "Privates are private". I wish all involved in this drama would understand and respect that.

Pamela Jaye said...

First off, it was really fun watching Kate constantly yank on her mini-skirt so that the world didn't see her biz-ness. If this mini-skirt keeps up next thing you know we'll be seeing her getting out a limo like britt showing off her c-section scar.

I remember Marie Osmond suggesting she might wear underwear.

Oh look! Marie Osmond - she has EIGHT children.

(I believe it was young actresses that she suggested wear underwear, btw, not Kate)

jibberjabbers said...

Jon needs to DITCH that Rabi and go back to therapy. This Rabi has other motives and he is like the many other who you dealt with are just using you and your name to get their 15min fame.

This Rabi has a horrible history. Not only with Michael Jackson, but many other. He is a fraud. Seek real help with those who are certified. Ditch this Rabi and go back to Therapy.

You personal and private info is at risk when you speak to this Rabi.

anotherthing... said...

My man has never seen an epi (proudly). He doesnt watch/read gossip blogs/shows/mags. And he is sick of them.

Yesterday he said something along the lines of 'I wonder the percentage of Americans that can rattle off at least 10 details of the Gosselin divorce sage versus the percentage of Americans that can explain 5 details about the defense/hate crimes bills that was signed yesterday (weds)'

Its thoughts like that that really make me believe in the 'dumbing down' of America that we have talked about on here before. And also that people like to read about losers like jon and kate to make themselves feel better about their own lives ("well at least I'm not *that* bad off" and sentiments along those lines). And alos to avoid the tough/hard times or real news that isnt easy or 'light'.

I sometimes feel like I waste my time on this crap. But I remind myself that I care for those kids.

Im sure Im not the only one who laughs in frustration at both jon and kate. just stfu and be gown ups!!! lol

anyway. sorry for the rant, just thought id put my thoughts out there.

mommadiane5 said...

Do any of us know any lawyers? I was reading an old article the other day. I think it was from Aug. 08. It was talking about if us ( jon and kate viewers) could ban together and sue tlc and jon and kate for fraud. I can't find the article again. But, I think it had to do with the insider tv show. They thought suing tlc and j&k was a interesting idea. Frankly, I wonder if we could.

anotherthing... said...

P.S. For further proof of my theory in 'The Dumbing Down of America' just check out the typos in my posts. Wow. Sorry guys. Lots of distractions, typing fast, you all know the drill. :D

I still stand by my points though! (if you can decipher them, that is)

Swissmiss said...

I recently finished a vacation and saw Oprah several times on TV.

I wonder if Kate got this so-called 'singing' habit from Oprah? She does that.

Kate, it is just ridiculous when you try and sing. You have no voice and no personality anyone would want to emulate. Trust me.

Yep, Just Walk Away said...

MBach said (excerpt of a great post): "Maybe it is just because this is Halloween, but isn't this like a monster/slasher movie. The monster is dead. No it gets up! The monster is really dead this time. OH NO it gets up again!
Don't turn your back on it, there is some new trick coming......wait for it.....OH NO here comes another Gosselin shocking story!
Run away, run away!"
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It's true. They keep the fire lit, all the time. Because if we lose interest, they lose money. I'm starting to see the theories rise again about reconciliation; wouldn't surprise me, as it's really expensive to get divorced, and this could start a whole new season of shows about how the couple gets back together again, although I don't know how Jon can backpeddle now on keeping the kids off reality TV. Of course, the focus could stay on Jon and Kate; truly, hasn't it always been? As has been said here 10,000 times, the kids were pretty much props all along.

fidosmommy said...

Swissmiss said...
I recently finished a vacation and saw Oprah several times on TV.

I wonder if Kate got this so-called 'singing' habit from Oprah? She does that.

Kate, it is just ridiculous when you try and sing. You have no voice and no personality anyone would want to emulate. Trust me.

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Oprah's "singing" is enough to make me turn the channel. And as a general statement, I like Oprah.
Hearing Kate do the same thing is enough to make me stab a knife in my ears to make that sound go away.

fidosmommy said...

K. said...
If this has already been mentioned, I apologize, but has anyone else heard there is a J&K+8 MOVIE in the works? I was listening to the morning mash-up on Sirius radio yesterday and they mentioned it in the celebrity news segment. I hope it was a joke, but it didn't really sound like it was. Seriously, who in their right mind would think this was a good idea?

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Oh ick. If there is, it will probably go straight to DVD. Then the Gosselin fans out there can just add another DVD to their collection.

fidosmommy said...

bcsurvivor2001 said...
Tiffany said...
I just came across something that stunned me...and with everything the loonies involved with this trainwreck have done I shouldn't be so surprised. The celebrity rabbi who Jon is meeting with on Sunday (publicly and for a FEE to the audience) has had a show on TLC - Shalom in the Home. And according to wikipedia is currently developing a new series with The Learning Channel! WHAT??? This rabbi is affiliated with the very channel that Jon Gosselin professes to hate, the ones who screwed him over, the same ones who are suing him? Isn't this a conflict of interest? Or does this point to a well masterminded plan? I've never thought Jon has the brains to mastermind a plan but this is more than suspicious. Could this interview and spiritual counseling of Jon be the premise or episode of a new TLC show perhaps?

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Sure, a cross-over show of sorts.
It happens all the time. You know, when a soap opera actor appears on Dancing with the Stars,
those stars fans will be tuning in for sure! So, the idea here would be that Jon's fans (or curious others) will be tuning into Rabbi Schmuley's show to see Jon, upping the ratings. Jon gets some air time and gets paid, Schmuley gets his show promoted and gets paid, and voila! Everyone gets a piece of that pie.

Rabbi Schmuley has some very good advice to give people. His program "Shalom in the Home" was actually pretty decent. Kind of a toned down family-oriented version of Supernanny/Dr. Phil, helping families and individuals cope with loss, anger, betrayal, behavior and other important issues. I think the reason his show isn't as well known as other TLC shows is that it isn't loud, obnoxious or toxic, the things that draw the
easily entertained. It's pretty gentle, really. Some of it was a bit contrived, but most of it was
pretty sound advice, IMO.

One Person's Opinion said...

mommadiane5: I am a lawyer and so I'll attempt to answer your question.

What would be your damages? In a civil suit, a class action suit like you mentioned, you are suing someone for money to cover your damages? Have you lost time at work because of what they've done? Were you somehow unable to fulfill your normal duties at home and that impacted your life somehow?

Now if I belonged to a church that truly had been fooled by Kon and perhaps gave them money under what we now know are false pretenses, and I could prove it, you might be able to have a claim to recoup money given by the church or the members of the church. If, as I suspect, people were giving their money after one of these -- gag-- speeches Kon made in a church in a "love offering"....sorry, don't see how coercion could be alledged.

Anyone else? I would LOOOOOVVVEEE Kon to have to appear in court to face some of the people they conned out of money, people and businesses, but I'm not sure how they would do it.

Most of us realized long ago the con they were running, but some didn't and those who didn't get it made Kon rich.

jasmine said...

I hope Rabbi Shmuley, with his connections to TLC, doesn't convince Jon to honor his contract and allow his children to be filmed again for the show. Since TLC filed a lawsuit against Jon, how can the rabbi counsel him privately if he has associations with TLC? Isn't that a conflict of interest?

watch out jon said...

The rabbi sounds like he does give decent advice but I am very wary of him. When he went on tv to promote his book about michael Jackson, he played personal conversations that he had taped on air. Michael actually came off as surprisingly sad and more normal than I had imagined, but I still felt the playing of those tapes was exploitative and a betrayal of trust

Tiffany said...

Fidosmommy said
Jon gets some air time and gets paid, Schmuley gets his show promoted and gets paid, and voila! Everyone gets a piece of that pie.
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I understand why a famewh*re would do it. It's just that if TLC is truly the devil that Jon says they are...and I think they are because of how they've handled all this...then TLC gets a big piece of this Rabbi pie too. It will benefit them the most with a new show and bigger ratings.

Way to still be in bed with the enemy, Jon. It definitely smells fishy to me.

Robin said...

Doesn't Jon have any dear friend or family member who could give him some critical advice like -- STFU!

Must he continue from train wreck to train wreck?

When I was in the middle of a most acrimonious divorce my lawyer told me to keep my life "squeeky clean."

I was always Team Jon, but I sure wish I could duct tape his mouth and his zipper!

Renee said...

The next shocking statement from Jon will be that he has been abusing drugs or alcohol. He will go on to say that is the reason for his bizarre behavior over the past few months.He will also say he will be entering rehab. Then he and Kate will announce how they are reuniting for the sake of the children. Everything those two have done lately has all the makings of a bad tv movie. Just watch for another "big announcement" from either Jon or Kate before the new year.

Brummygirl said...

Rose said:
Apparently, Kate is planning on also writing a tell-all book about "raising her family in the public consciousness."
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Only if she understands what that means, it does not have an *ish* on the end!!! It would not take long before this book is on the $3 sale counter!!
I would not even waste $3 as I know it would not be in her own words!

mommadiane5 said...

Thank you One person's opinion. I appreciate you answer. I'd love to have them all answer to someone...a court. If not, the court of public opinion.

Melissa said...

I read here constantly but never post. I just had to mention, I went to Universal Orlando's Halloween Horror Nights. They have a nightly show called Bill and Ted's Excellent Halloween Show. The show makes fun of pop culture from the prior year. During the opening sequences they show a picture of Octomom and Jon and Kate Plus Eight. They make a joke of saying they will not be acknowledging these "lame" a"""es". The crowd went wild. Having children for profit is no longer trendy.

KyPastor said...

watch out jon said...
The rabbi sounds like he does give decent advice but I am very wary of him. When he went on tv to promote his book about michael Jackson, he played personal conversations that he had taped on air. Michael actually came off as surprisingly sad and more normal than I had imagined, but I still felt the playing of those tapes was exploitative and a betrayal of trust

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There is the distinct probability
that Rabbi Schmuley had written consent either from Michael himself or from someone with power to decide those tapes could be used. No sane counselor is going to let private tapes go public without having a signed release.
Otherwise, it's actionable if the family wanted to pursue it. I know if I were to broadcast what my parishoners told me without express permission, I'd be sued.

But I do agree that these TV counselors have their own agendas, and it's not always the best interest of their patients on their minds. They have to have
ratings-grabbers just like the other TV shows in order to stay on the air. Sometimes they'll do whatever it takes, including getting people to air their problems on TV. I think that's a bit exploitive; I think counseling should be private and stay private.

silimom said...

but I still felt the playing of those tapes was exploitative and a betrayal of trust

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and yet you just said a few sentences before that hearing those tapes made Michael Jackson seem more human.

Many people saw him as this twisted, sick, wacko. And there's no denying, the man definitely had issues. However, given that he had just passed away and knowing the media blitz and the deification that was about to happen, do you think possible the Rabbi may have been trying to give people perspective on Michael, to help them see that in the end, he was just a extremely talented man who was flawed, just like the rest of us and not some media god to be worshipped?

Just a thought. I could be completely wrong. But I hope not. I too feel that the Rabbi's advice is sound, even if his motives are not (charging $25 a seat for tomorrow's "revelation" from Jon? I hope that he takes that money and puts it in his "foundation").

Anna said...

KyPastor said...
There is the distinct probability
that Rabbi Schmuley had written consent either from Michael himself or from someone with power to decide those tapes could be used. No sane counselor is going to let private tapes go public without having a signed release.


Shumly Boteach has a shady past. I think he is using Jon. Unfortunately Jon Gosselins is very gullible and seems to be taken in by just about anyone and everyone.

http://showbiz411.blogs.thr.com/michael-jackson-shmuley-boteach-tapes/

2nd story down on the next one

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,73709,00.html

Go Away Gosselins! said...

I just read on Radar that Nana Janet has passed away.

It is so sad that a woman who loved the Gosselin family so much had to pass away at the height of Jon and Kate's idiotic behavior. I doubt that she even felt at peace about the welfare of the Gosselin children. Who does?

RIP Nana Janet. Thank you for the love you gave the kids.

watch out jon said...

Sillimom, I thought the Michael tapes were pretty tame and showed a more human side to the guy but still feel the rabbi did not play them to benefit his deceased friend. It still seems to be a betrayal IMO, even if the tapes weren't inflammatory. Hope I'm wrong. Hope the rabbi is benevolent, but I worry for Jon.

GoPoshGo said...

One Person's Opinion said...
Anyone else? I would LOOOOOVVVEEE Kon to have to appear in court to face some of the people they conned out of money, people and businesses, but I'm not sure how they would do it.

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I, too, would love for the Kons to face their day of reckoning when it comes to the "love offerings" they conned from honest, unsuspecting people. I'm not a lawyer, but I doubt anyone could make a legitimate case against the Gosselins, in terms of claims of fraud, etc. I attended one of their church-sponsored "talks" and while they never outwardly claimed "poverty," there was a whole lot of double-speak and lying-by-omission. They'd allude to how expensive it is to raise 8 kids, and that the show was now their only source of income -- all the while making it seem like they were just getting by. Although nobody would know it for almost a year, this was the same month that they were moving into the McOrphanage.

Kate especially is a master of making people feel sorry for her, and that's just what they did in the appearance I attended. I walked out before the love offering bucket got passed around (and before the line formed to pay $20 for an autographed photo) -- I found the whole thing so distasteful.

I doubt the people who were conned into donating to the Gosselins can recoup their money. BUT, I would LOVE for the IRS to audit them on all the offerings, photo-charges, and freebies that they haven't paid taxes on. Someone on another thread mentioned a "forensic accountant" -- how wonderful would it be to have someone track down all the money -- who knows, maybe Kate's next gig will be from behind bars.

GoPoshGo said...

Brummygirl said...
Rose said:
Apparently, Kate is planning on also writing a tell-all book about "raising her family in the public consciousness."
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Only if she understands what that means, it does not have an *ish* on the end!!!

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Okay, I'll bite: What the hell DOES it mean???????

jibberjabbers said...

Rabbi Boteach is working with TLC.... What is Jon thinking?

Jon needs to dump this Rabbi and get back to therapy where everything is done in private.

So far, we know this. TLC, Kate, Skanktoro, and Boteach are all working with TLC...

jonspeaks said...

Jon put out a long statement to ET confirming his split with Hailey, supporting her as a person, and he has cancelled his appearance with the rabbi tonight (yay!)

http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/11/80386/index.html

jibberjabbers said...

Good for Jon. That Rabbi is a fraud. Go back home and be with the kids, and stay away from the paps.

silimom said...

The end of the ET article says he confirmed his attendance at the speaking engagement tonight with Rabbi Schmuley (or however you spell his name). He didn't cancel it.

It does sound like he plans to move back to Pennsylvania. That's probably for the best. At this point, I'm so tired of all these people.

Ladylou said...

When Kate was on the Ellen show there is a photo of her (Kate) and the children. She seems to be tickling one of the boys is it Joel?

He is laughing and his shirt is pulled up and hope I am wrong but it looks like he's wearing some sort of diaper? Does anyone else think so?

I know the tups all go to school. No 5 year old would be able to attend wearing anything like a Pull-Ups would they?

These children are all going through so many issues.

A mom like Kate evokes a situation by her anal attitude & parenting skills.
Combine that with the divorce, their lives under a microscope and
the way they can never have anything close to normalcy,
nothing would surprise me.

jonspeaks said...

I wish I had printed it out but I could have sworn it said cancelled at first! I read it a few times to make sure. Maybe the rabbi pressured him?

I could have misread it, of course, but I read the whole sentence differently. And it made sense considering how hard Jon takes his breakups. But I guess nothing about this crap makes sense.

jonspeaks said...

Wait a minute. Something's fishy. ET did say jon cancelled. They must have changed it withing the last hour.

But look, here's Radar picking up on the cancellation

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/jon-gosselin-cancels-appearance-rabbi

jibberjabbers said...

I don't trust Radar. They just copy and paste from other website.

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But yes, ET did say Jon "canceled" his appearance with the Rabbi. ET must have "edited" it.

So is he or is he not?

Wowzers! said...

I am ashamed to admit I went to ROL the first time in several weeks. I wanted to see these (in)famous Shopping at the Grove pics..I only saw the one but one thing SCREAMED at me right away:
WHAT MOTHER DRESSES LIKE THIS??
And NO, I am NOT JELLUS! The worst is the "heels" ; I won't even grace them with the mere name of heels ; those are Hooker shoes, just like you all have said. Wow. ANd the shirt...with the boops all pushed up and smushed in the front (can you "Smush" silicon?) The tight tight tight pants....I mean really, I live in a semi-cosmopolitan type/liberal-leaning/college town and all that...I mean it's not Bible belt here, and I have NOT seen any woman who I suspected could be a mom, out and about dressed like that! Just haven't! And I run a heckuva lot of errands... Even the college girls here MIGHT just be dressing more conservatively than Kate/Hate, if this picture is to be relied upon.!

No I am NOT saying you "have to" be frumpy to dress as if you are a mom, so I hope the conversation doesn't go there. !
OH, and the FIRST comment on the article? "Love her shoes!" And another Sheeple actually called her "ClassY.' EXACT QUOTE LOFL!

ihatefrogs said...

But yes, ET did say Jon "canceled" his appearance with the Rabbi. ET must have "edited" it.

Yes, approximately two hours ago the ET website article DID report that Jon Gosselin cancelled his appearance with the Rabbi. The article has since been updated(revised) that Jon will make his appearance as scheduled.

can't stand her said...

Wow, where did you hear that Jon may be moving back to PA, sillimom? That is fantastic news!! It sure was a bad PR move when Jon rented that place in NYC. Even though he and Kate aren't allowed in the Orphanage during the other's turn there (stupid rule, IMO). Even though TLC paid his rent. It just LOOKED bad, like he was abandoning the kids. I think Jon and Kate need to live close to each other so they can both see the kids more often. If one of them "has to" travel, the other should watch the kids whenever possible. The nanny sounds great, but she is their nanny, not their parent. If both parents were close by, Jon and Kate could do things like take turns pickng the kids up from the bus, etc, so they at least see their kids on a nearly daily basis. My ex and I do this. We manage to see the kids almost every day no matter where they're staying that day. Take turns driving to soccer practice, etc. Even if we only see the kids for a few minutes on a particular day, it really makes everyone feel better. Jon and Kate really should try something similar; show those kids they really do everything for them.

Actions, Not Words said...

silimom: (partial comment) "It does sound like he plans to move back to Pennsylvania. That's probably for the best. At this point, I'm so tired of all these people."
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Makes sense for Jon to go back to his hometown, closer to his relatives and own children; who knows, too, just what he's having to pay for now that TLC and (no doubt) sponsors withdraw. Of course, if he split up with the plastic surgeon's daughter, what would be the point of NYC except for proximity perhaps to his legal team/PR(?) team; seems unlikely he would be in NYC now for "work." I'm sensing major downsizing in all aspects of life as this sad Gosselin saga comes to a close (please, please let it be coming to a close). I would be so embarrassed to be Jon and Kate at this point in time. I'd be an open wound with the amount of private stuff having been aired to the public. What left is sacred? (Don't let me hear it's "the kids...everything we do is for them...we're here for our kids." Right.)

Yes, I'm also tired of these people. We all are. I know I'm in trouble when I repeat my own comments here from six months ago. Time for me to sing a new tune. Jon and Kate, follow my lead...just, this time, keep it to yourself, okay?

PaMa said...

Jon did, in fact, appear with the Rabbi. See article and video:

http://gawker.com/5394838/jon-gosselins-public-shot-at-forgiveness-with-celebrity+obsessed-rabbi-shmuley

RandomThoughts said...

Yes, info about Janet is already posted; please disregard my last comment and this one as well. My sympathies go out to Janet's family.

Sasha222 said...

I just saw of a clip of Jon with the Rabbi and an audience on Geraldo Rivera. So I don't think he canceled. Wonder if the "speech" will be available on youtube soon...?

jibberjabbers said...

Ok so Jon just made a public statement to Kate to forgive him for his actions for the last several months..

What is he talking about? What did he do? All this does is make him look like the guilty party.

What about Kate? When will she apologize and ask for forgiveness?

So Kate and TLC got what they wanted. Jon to confess to be the guilty party.

Jon again, is making it difficult to be his supporter.

jibberjabbers said...

I'm guessing the Rabbi called Jon threatening him and saying all kinds of things to get Jon to reconsider.

Merrilee said...

Who is the reality show pariah?

Geraldo At Large called Jon that tonight.

I do wish Kate would be getting her just deserts. Poor Jon.

Kate has some very good trainers.

Sidney said...

Apparently there was just a small crowd and they didn't bother to collect the $25.00 entrance fee.

Jon was photographed and there were a lot of "flash bulbs" going off, so it looked like there were paparazzi or press in the building.

He was called a reality show pariah on Geraldo At Large tonight. That is just so terrible. Ugh.

He broke up with Hailey. Apparently he is not so together with the Rabbi either. Now Jon has no soft place to fall.

This concerns me. Jon is in a terrible frame of mind. This is frightening. He is terribly alone.

Tami said...

Notice the huge difference in spelling and grammar in Jon's true statement and that recent fake statement put out. We all knew he didn't really know all those big words! It's funny how he says he decided to use Hailley's oh so original saying that honesty is the best policy. He has never thought of that before??

Jane in California said...

Oops - posted about the supposed cancellation on another thread, and now I see that was apparently not true. Jon and the rabbi are still set to have some sort of public talk/apology session. Oh joy.

Jon, honestly -- take this to private. Enough with the publicity about your troubles. Let Kate blare all she wants -- you should immediately cease all public comment or keep it to bare minimum: "We are going through a divorce but trying to be amicable. Thank you."

If your head is all messed up (and why not, after years spent with Kate), seek some real therapy - but privately! Public apology? No, no, no, no! Smacks of attention seeking.

As to the photos taken of Kate with this Natalie woman (supposedly a "real journalist", ha!) in The Grove. I had to laugh at some of the captions - it sounded all so Tiger Beat! Breathless with fan-girliness. There was one with Kate showing one of her usual pulled faces and the caption read something like, "Kate Gosselin enjoys the warm California weather." Funny stuff!

She looked foolish in her too high heels, way too tight black jeans, low cut top, and french manicure, strolling around The Grove in her perfect wannabee-ness.

Later that day I happened to see Wanda Sykes on youtube, a brief comedy clip. She was dressed in jeans, blouse, leather jacket and high heels and she looked great. Very put together, slim, classy, a star. Next to that, Kate looks like what she is -- Walmart Blue Light Special!

PA Mom said...

On the TLC website, there is a clip of Kate's new interview, her face totally wet with tears (must be talking about losing the show & money, LOL) and I read that Jon is moving back to PA?? Yes, I too believe there is a well planned scam going on here and they will be back together soon

PJ said...

So Kate and TLC got what they wanted. Jon to confess to be the guilty party.

Regardless of what Kate has done, there is a lot Jon has done to apologize for. He is guilty of going out drinking and to bars - there is proof of that. He is guilty of dating before his divorce is final. He is guilty of of dissing Kate to a bunch of reporters. He was certainly guilty of not defending Jodi and kevin in July.

Kate is guilty of many of the same things. However, two wrongs never make a right and Jon's apologizing for HIS behavior should be contingent on anything Kate does or doesn't do.

I just wish Jon would do his apologizing in private to those who deserve the apologies and not in a setting where there are tons of reporters and tickets to the seats being sold.

Organic Lollipops said...

Gag me, gag me, gag me. Here's Jon and the rabbi having a (public) shrink session:

http://gawker.com/5394838/jon-gosselins-public-shot-at-forgiveness-with-celebrity+obsessed-rabbi-shmuley

thosepoorkids said...

Sidney said:

"He broke up with Hailey. Apparently he is not so together with the Rabbi either. Now Jon has no soft place to fall."
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Sure he has a soft place to fall! He can make a big pile of all the money he and Kate made from exploiting their kids, and then heap all his Ed Hardy t-shirts on top. That will be a very soft place to fall!
Seriously, how anyone can have sympathy for EITHER of these 2 con artists is just beyond me.

Snerk said...

Kate got her own speeding ticket.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/exclusive-kate-gosselin-pulled-over-cops

She's..um..RUINED said...

Snerk said...

Kate got her own speeding ticket.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/exclusive-kate-gosselin-pulled-over-cops
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Guess those new boobies didn't help her out.

abbie said...

Jon could move back into the ETown house, it hasn't sold yet has it? Then he'd have a home near the kids and they could come to visit HIM thee. Let Kate sit her lonely a** at home while he has his visitaton.

Did Jon and Hailey break up, really?

the scoop said...

She's..um..RUINED said...
Snerk said...

Kate got her own speeding ticket.
Guess those new boobies didn't help her out.
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I thought the same thing. She thinks she is such a hottie, maybe she even flashed a boobie at the cop & he didnt blink...here's your ticket, Biotchhh! Love it.

Dunwoody Mom said...

This concerns me. Jon is in a terrible frame of mind. This is frightening. He is terribly alone.

Jon is not alone. He has his family - mother, brothers, etc.

DLCF said...

Snerk said...
Kate got her own speeding ticket.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/exclusive-kate-gosselin-pulled-over-cops
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"I'll gladly send Kate a check for the ticket if she needs it."

Actual quote from the thread.

ErinKate said...

I think the lease on the NYC apartment was up on 10/31/09. That is why Jon is moving out.Probably a 6 month lease by TLC to coincide with the propsed end of the series (which they all knew about) and the beginning of Kate's new career. I think the show was going to end anyway when the tups started school and the Jon stuff is to get people interested in Kate as the new "super" Mom. Notice how all the TLC shows are coming back either this week or last week. Cake Boss, Little People, Little Couple. Very interesting timing on TLC's part.

pressured cooker said...

Dunwoody Mom said...
"I'll gladly send Kate a check for the ticket if she needs it."

Actual quote from the thread.
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People who choose to be ignorant just irritate me.

Ella said...

I don't know if anyone else commented on this, but I watched Kathy Griffin on The Insider. It just seemed like she was getting a little dig in at Kate.

She was talking about the Women's Conference in CA, that on one hand there were all these educated, accomplished women speakers and then on the other hand were Kate and Kathy. (to paraphrase) She doesn't lump Kate in with the educated and accomplished?

Just my point of view, I thought it was amusing.

abbra said...

I have been following all the drama and I have to say Jon should stop apologizing to everyone around him. Its getting annoying. It shows signs of desperation in him. He has lost a lot, even his dignity at this point. He just needs to settle down, get out of the camera spotlights and get a real therapist who can help him unjumble his confusing innner feelings and actions.
I do hope he goes back to the PA home thats empty. It could be part of the settlement in the divorce. Let Kate have her manse with the stipulation that she must be responsible for all bills pertaining to her manse if she wants to live there.
Jon also needs another lawyer who will get him a fair deal in the divorce. Not the schmuck that he has now.
As for Schmuley Jon should get rid of him too. Clean the closet and get rid of those who promised him a rose garden and gave and are giving him fertilizer. aka Michael crazy man Lohan.
Just my opinion

pressured cooker said...

pressured cooker said...
Dunwoody Mom said...
"I'll gladly send Kate a check for the ticket if she needs it."

Actual quote from the thread.
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People who choose to be ignorant just irritate me.

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When I saw this, I realized it reads as though Dunwoody Mom is the ignoramus who irritated me; not so, she just provided me the opportunity to be irritated by quoting the true moron.

Sorry, Dunwoody Mom!

ErinKate said...

Hailey/Rabbi/Lohan all gone. Who will join the circus next? Gloria Allred? Al Sharpton? Geraldo? Anyone keeping count? Stay tuned to the Jon Show to find out.

readerlady said...

I tend to disagree with those of you who are complaining about Jon's public apology. I think it's a brilliant move by Jon or his handlers or whoever is responsible. It shows, publicly, that he is sorry for his part in the breakdown of their marriage and that he wants to work amicably with Khate for the good of their children. Regardless of our opinion of Khate, she wasn't totally responsible for the breakdown of their marriage, although I think she deserves the lion's share of the blame. This shows that Jon is remorseful and willing to cooperate. Since Khate has already publicly refused, on more than one occasion, to take ANY responsibility and is likely to continue to do so, it only points up her boorish behavior. So - Jon gets points with the more enlightened public, hopefully gets points in court, and shows himself to be the better person.

LORI IN OHIO said...

Boy that Hailey must be one super chick! I just read that she alone, was able to make Jon see that being honest is the way to go. What a woman I say!!!!

Guess he must have missed the "Thou shall not lie" commandment during all of those church speaches he and Katie- O did a while back. SOMEWHERE in their travels they MUST have come across the 10 Commandments written on a napkin or something.

Oh well. I am SO glad that Hailey was around to set him straight. Again-- I say-- WHAT A GAL! No wonder she is the love of your life. She makes the lightbulbs go off in your head...

Pamela Jaye said...

Kate Gosselin says she is having a hard time relying on anyone these days.

"[I trust] a very, very small group of people," the reality star, 34, says in an interview airing Monday night on TLC.

Since her 10-year marriage to husband Jon has deteriorated, she complains that many people she once considered close have sold her out to the press.


awwww....
I'm having trouble finding the words

this is the woman who *had* friends, used them, and threw them away, right?

rest of article here

Im_in_PR said...

So - Jon gets points with the more enlightened public, hopefully gets points in court, and shows himself to be the better person.

I would agree with you except for the fact that Jon charged $25 bucks a head for his side show.

f8k8 said...

I would agree with you except for the fact that Jon charged $25 bucks a head for his side show.

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No he didn't. The host company did.

PA Mom said...

November 2, 2009
Fox411 Exclusive: Hailey Glassman's abuse claims about Jon Gosselin made up - by Jon!

We've heard of tangled webs, but this is getting ridiculous.

A close confidante to Jon Gosselin tells Fox411 that last week's taped confession by Hailey on "The Insider" was all designed for TV by Jon himself.

"Jon actually made the decision to have Hailey go on air and bad mouth him," says the insider. "Jon and Hailey get paid for their appearances on these shows and they need the money.
________________

Classic scamming going on here!!! By both sides, Jon AND Kate, and its all for MONEY! All parties are getting paid substantially for all this media mess!

readerlady said...

"Jon charged $25 bucks a head for his side show."

My understanding is that the $25 to attend was Rabbi Shmuley's standard charge for attendance at one of his seminars, and not Jon's charge. If JON is the one who charged the $25, then I may have to rethink my position.

The Big Wooden Spoon said...

Snerk said...
Kate got her own speeding ticket.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/exclusive-kate-gosselin-pulled-over-cops
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She got that ticket in Adams County, PA. I wondered where that was, so I looked it up. Mighty close to Baltimore!

During (and after) my divorce, I couldn't move the kids out of state without permission from the judge and a big hassle. Maybe it's the same in PA? Betcha Katie Irene is planning on selling the McPrison and moving closer to her boobyguard. There is nothing special in that part of the state, so IMO she was house-hunting.

No proof -- just a suspicion.

Darcy said...

Just saw a blurb on POP EATER that Michael Lohan wants his daughter to hook up with Jon (in some misguided effort to get her to date men or something)!

Ewww. How creepy ARE these wanna-bes?

The Big Wooden Spoon said...

jibberjabbers said...
Ok so Jon just made a public statement to Kate to forgive him for his actions for the last several months..

What is he talking about? What did he do?
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IMO, the only thing Jon should be apologizing for is marrying that nasty thing in the first place!

yeaissaidthat said...

Kate got her own speeding ticket.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/exclusive-kate-gosselin-pulled-over-cops

Obviously Kate was in a bit of hurry on that 'high road' she always claims to be taking.

jibberjabbers said...

PA Mom said...
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A close confidante to Jon Gosselin tells Fox411 that last week's taped confession by Hailey on "The Insider" was all designed for TV by Jon himself.

"Jon actually made the decision to have Hailey go on air and bad mouth him," says the insider. "Jon and Hailey get paid for their appearances on these shows and they need the money.
________________
Who is this "close konfidante", or this "insider"???

Stephanie SKANKtoro?

heehee said...

thosepoorkids said...

Sidney said:

"He broke up with Hailey. Apparently he is not so together with the Rabbi either. Now Jon has no soft place to fall."
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Sure he has a soft place to fall! He can make a big pile of all the money he and Kate made from exploiting their kids, and then heap all his Ed Hardy t-shirts on top. That will be a very soft place to fall!
Seriously, how anyone can have sympathy for EITHER of these 2 con artists is just beyond me.

11/02/2009 7:56 AM

How long do you think that money is supposed to last? I just don't understand it when I see so many people thinking Jon and Kate have tons of money.

Once you stop *working* and keep on spending the money tends to disappear.

anotherthing... said...

heehee, I agree... Im not sure how much money theyve actually 'made' in the past or have stashed away... but even with all the freebies, it wont last long.

Clearly they have large monthly expenses (based on the whole taking money from the joint acct dabacle) and... thats just $10k (they each put in $5k a month) in 'household' expenses. not personal. and Im sure kate has a long list of 'musts' nowadays.

And honestly, I find it hard to believe that they have a family of 10 living on $10k the way they live. I call BS. But thats just my opinion. And of course, that *was* when TLC was still footing the bill for most things... and perhaps there are 'yearly' bills not figured into monthly expenses or something.

But based on that amount, theyre spending as if theyre making approx $600 a year. (household expenses shouldnt be more than 20% of your income MAX... and they should be saving more than the average person since their 'income' isnt stable, and since they have 8 children) what happens when no ones gives a rats booty anymore and the paydays are few and far between??? Oh- i know this one: an hour special on kates story. Duh.

I maintain my feelings that Kate will have them broke sooner than later.

jibberjabbers said...

The Insider Just referred to Jon as "narcissistic", because of what he wore for Halloween.??? It's a freaking costume. He was making a joke out of the tabloids...

MBach said...

I got a real out loud laugh out of the comment from The Big Wooden Spoon.

"boobyguard" that IS funny

There is so very little humor to find in the Gosselin fake family life, most of time I am just disgusted with it all. But you caught me with that one. Cool.

Kat said...

THAT HAIR!!!!! I just can't get past that hair. Marine shave in the back, stripey spikes on top, and long, swoopy stuff in front (although the swoopy stuff sure has been "softened up" of late). I think the stylist is hiding in the closet laughing hysterically and saying "I can't believe I convinced her that looks good!" Hahahahaha...

Elvira said...

Intersting view point.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b151862_lets_root_yes_root_jon_gosselin.html

shoshanna said...

I just watched the clip on TMZ of Kate picking the kids up from the bus, pointing her stiff, angry finger at them and yelling for them to be quiet, stand there and not move their feet.

What a despicable, unloving wretch of a human being she is! The kids were doing absolutely nothing wrong - just gathered in a circle, waiting as Kate removed her garment bags and other stuff from the car and put it all in the back - something she should have done before she went to pick them up, so they could just pop right into the car instead of having to stand like soldiers in Madame Tussaud's Wax Museum, in the parking lot,
without moving their feet. Insane!

They were not pushing, hitting, screaming or running in front of cars. They were well-behaved and merely talking! I guess she
doesn't like the way *they* breathe, either.

Her main goal in life (besides being a movie star, talk show host and a hooker) evidently is to wring every ounce of joy out of these poor kids lives (and the lives of everyone else who comes in contact with her).

One of the boys (Joel, I think) did a funny little dance. How dare he enjoy those .02 seconds of his
life? She has to shoot him down and tells them
that, if she weren't there, they'd be standing alone
in the parking lot. Good way to engender a sense of security in your children, Kate.

I DETEST this woman more than I can say!!! She is
toxic. She should have been the warden of a women's prison, not the mother of eight poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor children.

SaNdY said...

shoshanna said...
I just watched the clip on TMZ of Kate picking the kids up from the bus, pointing her stiff, angry finger at them and yelling for them to be quiet, stand there and not move their feet.
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ITA, shoshanna....it absolutely terrifies me to think of what these kids have to deal with when they are alone with the Wicked Witch in the Haunted Mansion, when no video cameras are on, and no P-people are around...what happens then?? If Jon had a clue, he would have some nanny cams installed around the mansion when the Witch is away....

Charles said...

shoshanna said...
I just watched the clip on TMZ of Kate picking the kids up from the bus, pointing her stiff, angry finger at them and yelling for them to be quiet, stand there and not move their feet.
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She is such a witch. Those poor little kids must just have a truly miserable life off the camera. What do they go through when there are no other adults are around?

One of the twins was putting her stuff in a white car. Does Jon have a white car?

If it is Jon there too, that might explain the nasty mood she is in.

Go Away Gosselins! said...

anotherthing said:

household expenses shouldnt be more than 20% of your income MAX.

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Is this a statistic for Jon and Kate or is it for everyone?

I know with this economy it is extremely hard for the average person (you know...those of us middle class people who are beneath Kate) to have enough income that only 20% is spent on household expenses.

jibberjabbers said...

Charles said...

One of the twins was putting her stuff in a white car. Does Jon have a white car?

If it is Jon there too, that might explain the nasty mood she is in.

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That was the Asian Nanny. The twins took a ride with her while the tups went with Kate.

2 interesting point in the vid.

Alexis(?) walked up to Kate and Kate flipped out. Yelling at her not to invade her space and to go back to her spot.

Colin(?) then decided to spin around... Kate again, yelled and told him to go back to his spot.

Kate is always in a bad mood. The children Fear her.

Imagine what these kids go thru behind close doors. When the kids do go thru therapy, the truth will be out and Kate will be in big trouble.

Imagine LIving Wth Her - Ugh said...

JibberJabbers said, "Kate is always in a bad mood."
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Kate has ALWAYS been in a bad mood. From the very beginning, there were very few exceptions.

In the beginning, I gave her the benefit of the doubt, over and over again, figuring she might've been having a bad day.

But eventually I realized EVERY day is a bad one for Miss Kate. She always had an excuse, most often it was how tired she is.

Yeah, well, I'm tired, too, Kate, of YOU.

Kate seems like your basic, garden variety malcontend - never really happy.

I have NEVER seen any joy in her. Just control, impatience, anger, more control.

She is clueless about alot of things, most especially, about how to 'live in the moment'.

time flies said...

jibberjabbers said...


Alexis(?) walked up to Kate and Kate flipped out. Yelling at her not to invade her space and to go back to her spot.

Colin(?) then decided to spin around... Kate again, yelled and told him to go back to his spot.

Kate is always in a bad mood. The children Fear her.

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Did you see how the girl tup backed right up away from her when she started yelling? I was married to a verbal abuser. Their unpredictability is usettling to a grown up. Imagine not knowing what Mommy will show up? She knew enough to back away though...

When my daughter was 5 I was divorced. Didn't call myself a single mom though cuz he had her part of the time. Anyhoo..I would go by the daycare at lunchtime to see her get on the bus to kindergarten. When I picked her up at after school care she would yell mommmyyy! and come running to me and jump up and I would catch her.

She's 13 now. She's moody, I get more eye rolls then smiles and I embarrass her to be seen with me. But I have that foundation of love and I know that it is SO normal for her to be this way. And at the end of the day if either one of us has been too "mean" we apologize.

Time is fleeting, Katie Irene. Your kids wouldn't have you as the center of their world much longer; do you have to help it along?

Never ever ever did I greet my 5 year old with a snarl or anything less than a hug even on, especially on, the worst of days.

Tired said...

Ms. Ayers speaks about Kate in Life & Style Weekly:

http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/2009/11/kate-gosselin.html

and

http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/2009/08/933-cover-inset---kate-gosseli.html

Hmmm... with the remarks about never finding anyone and earlier remarks about the Ms. Ayers/Kate best-friendship, I wonder if they are trying to get TLC or someone to do a show with them joining forces to raise their kids.

Just a thought, wondering if the kids might be part of a completely different show.

Exhausted said...

Tired said...
Ms. Ayers speaks about Kate in Life & Style Weekly:

http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/2009/11/kate-gosselin.html
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I cannot believe TLC manufactured a friend for Kate to try to make her look more normal. Is there any end to all the duplicity? They pulled Jamie out of nowhere, and all of a sudden she's Kate's best friend in the world. They really think we're fools.

crazy mommy said...

Did you see how the girl tup backed right up away from her when she started yelling? She knew enough to back away though...
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yes yes!! i saw this and it spoke volumes to me.


Ive seen enough episode to guess that when Katie is angry the whole house hears about it over and over and over.

Next time katie clean your car before picking up the kids. OR were you just lingering to ensure you were phtographed

liv said...

Did you see how the girl tup backed right up away from her when she started yelling?
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THis is why the kids ofter have a blank look about them when they are filmed.

They are confused with the perky sweety camera Kate

Charles said...

How evil for TLC to deliberately ruin the lives of these kids just to get back at Jon.

How evil of Kate to allow it!

They are all money-hungry leeches.


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/exclusive-tlc-lines-bombshell-witnesses-against-jon-gosselin-court-case

Sal said...

The video does not tell the whole story. I would not be surprised if the 6 little ones wanted to ride with the nanny and not their mom.
That would make sense in why Kate goes off on them.
Those poor poor babies.

Rosie5 said...

Did any one happen to notice that the little dance that Colin did when KHate was yelling at him, was the same dance that he did when she was yelling at the boys about a drawer knob that some one had pulled off, a couple of seasons back. I giggled back then and I giggled again when he did it this time! He always seems so happy when one of the kids pushes KHates buttons.

goawayfools said...

Okaaayyy... so I checked out the Life and Style article where Kate's breast friend Jamie speaks. Get this: she says, and I quote, that Kate is "fun, sweet, organized and loving.". Whaaa? Kate GOSSELIN? Jamie, please explain:

Fun? FUN?? Kate the buzzkill can't stand it if someone is actually having fun and will sabotage the situation until everyone's crying, angry, embarrassed, depressed and no longer having fun.

Sweet? Is this how Kate tastes because even she wouldn't describe herself that way.

Organized? Well, her basement is since you and the other peons cleaned it up while Kate talked to the camera and ignored her kids as they tasered each other.

Loving? Hmmm, maybe to you? Certainly not to Jon the breather. Or to the kids, what are their names again? Oh yeah, 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and 8. Or her parents. Or...the rest of the human race. Oops let's not forget the dogs of the world. And the cats, birds, horses...

Where did this Jamie person come from? Something's fishy about her. If she and Kate have been breast buddies forever, why does she now feel the need to tell the world what a little darling she is? Did TLC have to pay someone to finally say something nice (and untrue) about Tree Trunk Legs? Maybe Kate is an amazing actress because I never ever ever saw a hint of her being fun, sweet, organized or loving on JK8. (Although she did seem to have a soft spot for Number 3.) If history repeats itself, then Kate needs to cut Jamie out of her sorry life now that she's "cashed her in", right?

Vanessa said...

Who the hell cares if Khate was in a "mood" or not? You haven't seen your kids all day and in 2 minutes your being a snarky condescending bi%$#? Everybody is right, just IMAGINE what was coming out of her mouth when they were locked in that vehicle with her on that long long lonnnnggg ride home.

So Phoney said...

I hate to have to say this, but as others on this and other threads here have alluded to. One day Kate is going to really loose it with one of those kids and really physically abuse them. Verbal and emotional abuse usually always lead to the next step Physical abuse. Then and only then will something be done to get those children away from that crazy biotch.

Corrin said...

Ok I really wanted to be on Jon's side given how he was treated on the show but im done. He is acting like a single bacholer and doesn't seem to care who it effects. I think kate is awful but at this point I really think Jon is just as bad but in different ways

Merrilee said...

Woo! TLC is using their big guns. Why would they want to destroy this family? Can they not see how this will sully THEIR reputation?

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/exclusive-tlc-lines-bombshell-witnesses-against-jon-gosselin-court-case

Betty said...

May TLC suing Jon be a warning to all future families before they even consider signing a contract with the Totally Lousy Channel. These are not honorable people, caring people, or even reasonable people. Could this be the beginning of a downward spiral for TLC?

ManicNarcissism said...

Everyone needs to read the afadavit on radar about Jon. I think it really makes clear why TLC is forced to sue Jon and proves that Jons motives were not for good by yanking the kids off the show.

I won't switch to team Kate but man Jon is a pretty big scum. Bag and I will never believe in him again. He has already fooled me twice.

PaMa said...

I just read on Radar the papers filed by TLC against Jon and can't say that they contain anything new or unexpected. It's important to remember that, regardless of his motivation, Jon did get the filming of his children stopped. At the end of the day, that's all that matters.