Oct 10, Tabloids, Antics, Appearances, and other Diversions

Aack the saga in the tabloids and talk shows continues.

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f8k8 said...

So Jon's Lawyer Mark Heller has lost his sponsorship and cannot represent Jon until he finds a new Sponsor who is licensed to Practice law in PA.

This guy can't get a break!

New representation said...

But I hear that he was recommended to a very fine lawyer from the area.

Time to heal said...

I think now that TLC has left the Konpound, we will hear less and less of the family. Without the weekly shows, and only reruns, it will slowly fizzle out. Time to heal for the children. What a long, long time coming.

ErinKate said...

With all the lawyers in the Philadelphia/New Jersey area, why can't poor Jon find one that knows what he is doing? Is there a Konspiracy against him finding someone who has 1 brain cell in his head? Why does he run around LA and do TV interviews with lawyers who cannot practice in the state where he filed his divorce papers? Someone throw this guy a bone.

Yikes said...

There is an interview with Jon on... Parent Dish?

Oh my. He sounds like such an idiot.

maggie said...

I just read the most revealing, upsetting article that was written hours ago on the ParentDish.com by Susan Avery dated 10-9-09. They interviewed Jon and these are just a few of his comments. He states: "Sixty-Five papazarri are following me in Reading, PA. But I know if you did not have the paparazzi, there would be no magazines, no advertising, no marketing, no nothing. If you run away from them, your are totally toast. Our Nielson ratings are 11 million. That is like the population of PA. Every talkshow wants us. I am the most photographed person on the planet. Kate is the 5th most popular in the world this year and I am the second most popular. Michael Jackson is the first. I'm like "Wake Up, Kate". She goes to Regis & The View and has no idea of women rights. She doesn't even vote--which is disgusting. How could she go on a talkshow if she doesn't know what is going on the the world." Then he said Kate has custody for Thanksgiving but he will stop by. And he doesn't have custody for Halloween. On Christmas, he will see his kids during the day for a couple of hours. For New Years Eve, he will be hosting a Las Vegas Live show with Eva Longoria.

He says he is still building websites and Hailey wants to start a clothing line. Ed Hardy totally used us.

He said he will not do the Divorced Dads show or any other reality show. And they were called America's best family and they can still be that and be the best we can as parents. And "I started writing a book, my book says it all and it will teach fathers a lesson."

Finally, he talks a great deal about Judaism and much more.

Maxsmom said...

Jon sounds like a complete moron in the Parent Dish interview. Amongst several moronic statements he says that "everyone" in his life is Jewish now?? Since when are your kids like, Jewish Jon??
The interview just proves that Jon, is like, not the brightest Menorah light in like the whole world. Like.

Chewy said...

Yikes, ummm...yuck? Sounds like Jon wants his kids off camera but he still wants to be a huge star.

He doesn't seem to know the difference between paparrazzi popular and respected popular.

What a mess.

KatesBigFlintstoneToe said...

Jon's interview to Parent Dish: "...I started writing a book, my book says it all and it will teach fathers a lesson."

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I will be first in line to get that book!

rural mom said...

Jon is such a lost soul. First he got sucked into Kate's vortex participating in her scams, schemes and "religion" and now it is Hailey and the lawyer and Judaism, the only bright light seems to be Rabi Shuley counselling him to get the kids off tv. I hope he doesn't get screwed in the divorce but I think he will.

my9cats said...

Is Parentdish a satire? If this interview is real, OMG. For better or worse (and there's been far more worse) I've always taken Jon's side. This however is beyond the pale. How arrogant, how stupid, (spluttering. Can't think of the right words to say) how unreal.
I will continue to take Jon's side ONLY because he got the cameras out of the house.

Man talk about group therapy. This family needs it big-time. The dogs are lucky to have escaped with their lives and health intact. At the very least they don't have to worry about becoming the scapegoat for all the anger in that house. They also don't have to worry about becoming dinner because there is no money to feed the kids. Right Kate? Tell me, will there be a chapter on how to feed your starving children? Dog Loaf? Nahla Pate?

Give it time said...

Jon is just boasting now because he knows that it is up to him to find income on his own. His popularity and Kate's will go on for a while longer, but it won't take all that long for the people to realize that they have not one thing to offer. They are not bright, just blurt out whatever comes to mind, they have no talent or intelligence to offer, and they will destruct under their own weight. What we see is only the smoke settling. Give it time. What the Lord giveth, he taketh away.

Iwanttotakethekidshomeandhugthem said...

I haven't looked through all the comments but isn't anyone else struck by the ROL bus stop videos? In one morning a boy says something exitedly to Mady who waps him with her sweater. Then she tells the babysitter he threw a fit at school. On their birthday the girls look scared of their father and very very sad. No running to him. The next morning Mady is angry about something, stopping short in front of Cara and butting her, then pulling away from her mom. These kids are in a ton a ton of turmoil.

In another note Joel McHale hit it on the head on the soup showing Kate's rudeness to the organizer and talking about the death screams coming from above while Kate admires her basement. He surmises the kids are watching an episod of JK + 8.

nanasez said...

Horrible interview by Jon on ParentDish! He really is dumb as a post. He's so obviously gone from one woman running his life to losing his life in another woman. Sure, she's all sugar and sunlight right now - like Kate was before they got married. Hailey keeps his schedule, Hailey is his best friend, Hailey's Judaism is his spiritual influence, etc. The guy is a child.

Oh, and I love this quote: "People who write things on blogs are just couch potatoes who have nothing else to do. They put people down because of their psychosis."

Hmmm. Really, Jon? I'd venture to say that most of the people posting on THIS blog have JOBS that support them and their families. I managed to complete a Ph.D. as a single mother and take care of my home without an entourage, and STILL have time to post on the internet. As a psychologist, I also happen to know the meaning of the word 'psychosis.' Jon obviously does not. I also understand the meaning of the word 'delusional' - as in Jon believing he's the second most popular person in the world.

I also love how EVERYONE uses poor Jon. He's just such a perpetual victim. Kate abused him (he doesn't mention that he got something out of their dysfunctional, symbiotic relationship), Kate Major used him, Stephanie Santoro used him, the Ed Hardy guy used him...but he trusts Lindsey Lohan's dad? The guy is an idiot and a whiner. What a tool.

marypoppins said...

Our Nielson ratings are 11 million. That is like the population of PA. Every talkshow wants us. I am the most photographed person on the planet. Kate is the 5th most popular in the world this year and I am the second most popular. Michael Jackson is the first.
___________________________
WOW, the 2nd and 5th most popular person in the WORLD!
Remind me what is that you do?

Your lives now are just prepping for the next inteview so that you can let the whole world know that Im the good one! he/she is really the bad one.

EVERY TALKSHOW WANTS US
Don't worry, this will soon come to an end.

ED HARDY TOTALLY USED US
And all the entertainment shows/ interview shows and magazines are your friends?

marypoppins said...

KatesBigFlintstoneToe said...
Jon's interview to Parent Dish: "...I started writing a book, my book says it all and it will teach fathers a lesson."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I will be first in line to get that book!
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This book can be a best seller- he just has to trash TLC and the mother of his children.

Think it will be called "Marketing Multiples"

Marlee said...

Kate is a horror show.... But I'd like to challenge all of the Jon supporters to defend his parentdish interview. He's one step behind Kate. He's JUST as delusional as Kate. Those kids don't have a chance with these 2 clowns as parents.

Erin said...

I read the Parent Dish interview too..
The only person more popular than them is Michael Jackson? Their Nielson is 11 mil? (I thought the ratings were barely over 1 mil?)
Every talk show wants them?
Can this guys sound more full of himself? He sounds like a pompous idiot. Please Jon, shut up.

Minka's tail said...

I've been on Jury Duty all week, on a criminal case involving a family 10X more troubled than the Gosselins, so I couldn't read all the posts.

Two things I didn't see mentioned (and forgive me if they were):

1. In the Enquirer article, someone from TLC said they will start filming again if and when Kate gets full custody. Don't you think this is partially behind the fresh round of Jon bashing? They will see to it that she gets full custody so they can film again. I bet they hire her the best lawyers.

2. I read some complaints about Mady's computer, because she can read about her parents on the Internet. I'd be more concerned about the ATV. A student of my friend was killed when one of those flipped over. They can be extremely dangerous. Also--don't they cost a lot more than a computer? A little favoritisim, Jon?

3. Mady's name should have two D's. They are ignoring the law of spelling. Spelled like it is, it should be pronounced Made-ee. But we may not all be in agreeance on this. I won't get into AAden's spelling, which is also sort of odd.

No Drama Mama said...

Jon...Jon...Jon... Any credibilty you were working on getting back was shot to hell this week by your profiting from your kids birthday (I totally believe this after I saw ET had a camera in his car) and the interview with ParentDish. Oy! Jon! Keep your trap shut!

Paps at the school drop off/pick up NEEDS TO STOP. Hear me? STOP! The kids DO NOT DESERVE THIS! The paps are just as guilty as the Gosselins as far as exploiting the kids! Kids should be OFF LIMITS! PERIOD!

another one said...

another sad Jon interview:

http://www.popeater.com/2009/10/09/jon-gosselin-kate-gosselin-tlc-the-view/

Momof2 said...

Erin said...

I read the Parent Dish interview too..
The only person more popular than them is Michael Jackson? Their Nielson is 11 mil? (I thought the ratings were barely over 1 mil?)
Every talk show wants them?
Can this guys sound more full of himself? He sounds like a pompous idiot. Please Jon, shut up.

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They are being fed false information from people who have an ulterior motive. That's why Kate really believes people love her so much....their information is extremely filtered.

Anne said...

So what is Kate's lawyer's point exactly about "Jon has other sources of income than TLC". Doesn't Kate also? I'm assuming she gets paid for doing The View, the Leno skit, the speeches - doesn't she?

Speak about delusional said...

He actually told ParentDish, that he is JUST UNDER MICHAEL JACKSON IN POPULARITY IN THE WORLD!!!!
WHAT!! I cannot BELIEVE what comes out of Jon's mouth. Please shut up, your true ignorance is pouring out each time you speak. I am still in awe over his delusional granduar of himself.
Please, someone bring these people back down to Earth. He's speaking as crazily as Kate. He loses credibility with every word. Just plain NUTS.

MickeyMcKean said...

marypoppins said...
KatesBigFlintstoneToe said...
Jon's interview to Parent Dish: "...I started writing a book, my book says it all and it will teach fathers a lesson."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I will be first in line to get that book!
_________________________________

This book can be a best seller- he just has to trash TLC and the mother of his children.

Think it will be called "Marketing Multiples"
___________________________________

I laughed so hard I also fell off my chair!!!

marypoppins said...

He says he is still building websites and Hailey wants to start a clothing line. Ed Hardy totally used us.
______________________________
Jon and Hailey didnt look so used, posing and smoking on his boat.

Um what skills did Jon think he has that Ed Hardy would want?

There were rumours about designing motor bikes, boards or clothes. Jon has zero experience in this.

I stated before- for a the cost of 2 tickets to Paris and a box of clothes, Ed Hardy person go himself some publicity.

marypoppins said...

No Drama Mama said...
Paps at the school drop off/pick up NEEDS TO STOP. Hear me? STOP! The kids DO NOT DESERVE THIS! The paps are just as guilty as the Gosselins as far as exploiting the kids! Kids should be OFF LIMITS! PERIOD!
_______________________
Surely the other parents could do something to prevent this.

marypoppins said...

And "I started writing a book, my book says it all and it will teach fathers a lesson."
__________________________
Dont have more kids than you can afford.
Go to school, learn a skill- so that you are employable.

CrazySelfishParents said...

I used to side with Jon, but his delusional thoughts are as bad as Kate's constant need for attention and money at all costs.

The Court handling this case needs to put a gag order on both of them, as they clearly have no desire to protect their kids from humiliation, as it is all about them. My guess is this will get worse unless someone with the best interest of their kids becomes involved. Why can't this be handled privately in a Court venue.

Oh, I forgot, these two selfish parents are more concerned about their future prospects, and $$$$$$$, on the back of their kids.

GoPoshGo said...

Oy vey, so now he's a JEW???? Newsflash Jon: eating challah bread and frequenting Zabar's does not make you Jewish. "I have a therapist. But hanging around Jewish people you don't need to talk to anyone else." This little nuggest made me laugh so hard, I'm still crying.

Second and third in popularity only to Michael Jackson??? Jon, I think you're confusing "popular" with "infamous." Besides, the person at number one is DEAD -- so I'd reconsider bragging about being the runners-up. What's next, pulling a John Lennon and claiming the Gosselins are "more popular than Jesus"? Well, He was a Jew afterall, so I suppose he IS one of your people now.

As for that insipid saying "from the Italians," I'm half-Italian, lived in Italy for 3 years, and I have never heard an Italian utter such vacuous words.

But here is something the Italians DO say, Jon: "Il denaro รจ un buon servo e un cattivo padrone." Translation: Money is a good servant, but a bad master."

I don't think I've ever read such a rambling, psychotic, stream of conscious interview as that one.

Such a dumb-ass.

anotherthing... said...

do u think that jon or kate 'get' that the reason people talk about them and the reasn they are in the news at all is because THEY ARE THE BUTT OF THE JOKE????

its not because they are 'stars' or 'celebrities' or the like...

its because they are self destructing on national tv for all of us to see. its like watching a car crash.

its because they are the picture of karma....

they embody the entire concept of 'be careful what you ask for because you just might get it'.

its not because we look at them like we look at julia roberts...

... its because we look at them and think 'well, at least im not THAT desperate/pathetic/greedy'

people talk about them because they are so aweful that they make us feel better about ourselves.

they truly are the butt of every joke.

and now that TLC has pulled their crap out of the house, perhaps there is a chance that the kids can get some therapy and possibly have a half-way normal/decent life.

i understand that they still have a total freakshow for a mom, but good therapy should help.

Reality check said...

Second and fifth most popular people in the world?

The gossip blogs I frequent have many European and UK posters and none of them have ever heard of the Gosselins outside of what they see posted on the blog by Americans.

ToTheMoonAlice said...

Just when you think things are starting to come together for Jon, he goes and does something like the parentdish interview. What an idiot!! Honestly, I don't think he has the brains God gave a goldfish...no offense to goldfish intended.

the8arenotprops said...

mom & dad (using the terms loosly)
TLC/eileen
tabloids
paps
ed hardy
advertisers
lawyers
book publishers....

the next person to cash in BIG on these 8 kids?

a therapist

Maude said...

nanasez said:
Hmmm. Really, Jon? I'd venture to say that most of the people posting on THIS blog have JOBS that support them and their families. I managed to complete a Ph.D. as a single mother and take care of my home without an entourage, and STILL have time to post on the internet. As a psychologist, I also happen to know the meaning of the word 'psychosis.' Jon obviously does not. I also understand the meaning of the word 'delusional' - as in Jon believing he's the second most popular person in the world.

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Nice!

livnluv said...

another one said...
another sad Jon interview:

http://www.popeater.com/2009/10/09/jon-gosselin-kate-gosselin-tlc-the-view/
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Really? I thought it was an excellent interview...

PaMa said...

Oh, wow ... after reading the ParentDish interview, I'm truly concerned about Jon. I've been pinning all my hopes on his ability to get both of his feet on the ground and to establish some kind of normal life for his family. Just when it looked like things were heading in the right direction, the ParentDish interview is released, and I'm totally questioning his ability to make sound decisions.

The interview makes him sound totally naive ... impressionable ... gullible ... way too trusting of other people he hasn't had the time to know well. It appears he's put all of his eggs in one basket, relying on a small group of people for everything ... advice, friendship, counsel, support, etc.... who are somehow inter-connected and may, or may not, have his best interests in mind. It's like he was so relieved to get out of a bad situation, he just gloamed onto the first hands that reached out to him.

I just pray that, given a little time, he'll be able to step back, re-evaluate, and start thinking a little more independently. If not, he's going to get swallowed up by those around him and once again end up being controlled by his new "friends" ... just as much as he was controlled by Kate.

egomuch? said...

um. jon? what 'top celebrity list' are you looking at?

one that makes money on stories about you? like 'people'?

or a credible one, like forbes?

because theres not even a whisper of you on the forbes top 10 list.

and i think that brad pitt, who is #10, would be insulted by your comment.

Lots Of Info Out There said...

Momof2 said...
Erin said...

I read the Parent Dish interview too..
The only person more popular than them is Michael Jackson? Their Nielson is 11 mil? (I thought the ratings were barely over 1 mil?)
Every talk show wants them?
Can this guys sound more full of himself? He sounds like a pompous idiot. Please Jon, shut up.

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They are being fed false information from people who have an ulterior motive. That's why Kate really believes people love her so much....their information is extremely filtered.
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Well, I can understand that. But consider that in Jon's past he was an IT Analyst, whatever the heck that involves, so he's quite familiar with the web and can access all the info he wants about himself besides being the recipient of filtered information. No matter what, I feel like I'm in the backseat of a roller coaster with him. One day up and one day down, i.e. one day he's my hero and the next day he's embarrassing me. I just don't know what to think anymore. Except maybe to exit the rollercoaster.

livnluv said...

For those interested in Jon's interview with Nancy Grace here's a portion of the story from popeaters.com. It also shows how everything is edited to fit the slant of the show....

Did you feel ambushed by Nancy Grace during the Insider interview?

I was really afraid going into the Nancy Grace interview. She's a retired DA, so I was like 'Oh, crap.' I don't know much about her ... They told me about Nancy Grace, so I had my attorney there in case she asked me any legal questions I wouldn't be able to answer, or I didn't want to incriminate myself in any way. I think I held my own with her. She combated me, but I had some good points that they edited out. She yelled – and she did yell, by the way -- saying, 'Why are you here now when your kids are at home?" I said I didn't have custody, so I couldn't be home. She said 'Well you could be in Pennsylvania.' I said 'Well I'm here now, and hey, Nancy, I know you live in New York and Georgia and I know you have twins... who's with your twins? She shut up real quick. But by the end of the interview, she could really see my side of the story because she was going straight out of the tabloids and what people have told me. She had to do her job to interrogate me, I answered all of her questions and I have nothing to hide.

Midnight Serenade said...

"So what is Kate's lawyer's point exactly about "Jon has other sources of income than TLC". Doesn't Kate also? I'm assuming she gets paid for doing The View, the Leno skit, the speeches - doesn't she?"

That's just the point, though. They both might have income from celebrity status NOW, but it's not going to last. When it's done, it's done. When nobody cares anymore about them and they stop being tabloid fodder, the demand for appearances go away. With it goes the income.

OyVey said...

Is Jon really as stupid as he acts? Is anybody that stupid to go from one horrible mistake to the next without any intervention from someone who can help? He has all these friends and contacts, but it is always him just babbling on like an idiot. I am beginning to think he is being paid to play the fool so that Kate comes out smelling like a rose.

Momof2 said...

First Kate tells Jon they were Christians...there were obviously benefits and perks to that announcement...the Christian community came out in droves with open pocketbooks. Then the "Christian thing" got dumped when no longer needed by both of them.

NOW, since Hailey's family is Jewish ....Jon is half Jewish? Oh really?

This gets funnier each day.

High Road Faker said...

Interesting tidbit from the Popeater interview regarding Nancy Grace. It looks like a good part of the Insider interview with her was edited out - the part where Jon stood up to her:

Did you feel ambushed by Nancy Grace during the Insider interview?

I was really afraid going into the Nancy Grace interview. She's a retired DA, so I was like 'Oh, crap.' I don't know much about her ... They told me about Nancy Grace, so I had my attorney there in case she asked me any legal questions I wouldn't be able to answer, or I didn't want to incriminate myself in any way. I think I held my own with her. She combated me, but I had some good points that they edited out. She yelled – and she did yell, by the way -- saying, 'Why are you here now when your kids are at home?" I said I didn't have custody, so I couldn't be home. She said 'Well you could be in Pennsylvania.' I said 'Well I'm here now, and hey, Nancy, I know you live in New York and Georgia and I know you have twins... who's with your twins? She shut up real quick. But by the end of the interview, she could really see my side of the story because she was going straight out of the tabloids and what people have told me. She had to do her job to interrogate me, I answered all of her questions and I have nothing to hide.

He's an idiot said...

He can put down people who blog but they care a hell of a lot more about his children than he does. I just knew Jon couldn't keep up the pretense of being a kind hearted, semi-intelligent, abused man child. Left to his own devices he's an ignorant poor excuse of a man and father.

readerlady said...

I read the Parentdish interview, too, but I have a somewhat different perspective on it. I think maybe this interview was given some time ago - maybe in late June or early July, which would explain Jon's statement about their ratings, and also his statement about their popularity levels. USAToday publishes a list of the hottest celebrities of the week - not sure what it's based on - media interest maybe - and about 2 months ago, Jon was second and Kate was 3 or 4 numbers below him. Don't remember who was on top, but it could have been Michael Jackson, because it wasn't too long after his death.

On another note - went to my favorite local newsstand today to buy a magazine ("SciFi", NOT anything to do with J&K), and several shelves below it on the rack were 5 tabloids, all with screaming headlines and pix about J&K. UGH!!!!!!!!!!! If I'd been in a corporate place, like the grocery store or a Borders or Barnes and Noble, I'd have turned them around, but I just didn't feel it was appropriate to do that in a privately owned place, esp. since I know the owners are struggling financially in this economy.

Momof2 said...

Momof2 said...

First Kate tells Jon they were Christians...there were obviously benefits and perks to that announcement...the Christian community came out in droves with open pocketbooks. Then the "Christian thing" got dumped when no longer needed by both of them.

NOW, since Hailey's family is Jewish ....Jon is half Jewish? Oh really?

This gets funnier each day.
.................

Coming soon to an Synagogue near you...Jon Gosselin speaks the TRUTH....click for more information on tour dates and how to book Jon Gosselin for your Bar Mitzvah.

..wait for it.......

Bev said...

Someone should do a documentary on "How a family lost its total perspective of reality doing a reality show". If this is not the shining example of how fake Hollywood and TV in general is I don't know what is. Even news networks are fake. It's all about money.

f8k8 said...

Pretty sure he was joking on the 50/50 jew/korean part...

Bev said...

If this is what happens when you get money...I'm happy to stay shopping at Walmart.

f8k8 said...

I would give it a month. The 15min are up and No more paps will be following the family.

Jon will stand outside of his NY apt. and no one will even pay attention.

I think Kate will have a mental breakdown. She isn't mentally stable. The spotlight, the camera, the helpers, all those people giving her the attention she needs is like a drug to her. When those things are out of her life, she's going to go thru shock.

Suzi said...

I wish someone would ask Jon for the truth about the story they've been spinning for so long. What is the truth about the fertility treatments? The truth about the cribs, churches, Kevin/Jodi, Beth, etc...? Were they ever really broke or did they have money from a relative as Jodi's sister claims? Unfortunately, it seems the people doing the interview don't have the background in the Gosselin web of deceit to ask those questions.

enoughalready said...

Oh Jon - P L E A S E... shut up !

Stop messing around with the media and the press. They will glorify you one day and also put your head on a spike the next. Havn'et you learned your lesson? What will it take to teach you that you two are fodder for them like fodder for pythons and large animals.

Keep quiet - on your activities, your ambitions, your plan of action, etc.

And stop trying to be placed on the front cover of whatever magazine it is. You are not exactly GQ cover material. Work on yourself first(not with the media , i.e. your priorities, goals, etc), your family and then take it one step at a time in the coming months / years ahead. Get your priorities right.

livnluv said...

Well, I can understand that. But consider that in Jon's past he was an IT Analyst, whatever the heck that involves, so he's quite familiar with the web and can access all the info he wants about himself besides being the recipient of filtered information. No matter what, I feel like I'm in the backseat of a roller coaster with him. One day up and one day down, i.e. one day he's my hero and the next day he's embarrassing me. I just don't know what to think anymore. Except maybe to exit the rollercoaster.

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Imagine how Jon feels. He's fighting off TLC's manipulation of Kate and a mentally ill Kate whose manipulating the press. No way would I want to be on HIS roller coaster.

poorjon said...

I feel sorry for Jon. His comments show someone who is really naive and unexposed to the world. He's never really been out of PA except for one trip to Europe and his comments make him sound like someone with little exposure to people with religions other than Christianity. To me it seems like he's going through his naive innocent 20's again, experiencing life other than in Kate's hellhole vortex that he was in for 10 years.

He doesn't realize how tacky it is to make comments like he made about Jews, albeit complimentary. He just seems like a rube but I don't think he means harm.

I just hope he can get his kids off tv and really raise them! I hope he doesnt keep 'partying'.

livnluv said...

He's an idiot said...
He can put down people who blog but they care a hell of a lot more about his children than he does. I just knew Jon couldn't keep up the pretense of being a kind hearted, semi-intelligent, abused man child. Left to his own devices he's an ignorant poor excuse of a man and father.
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I think you're absolutely wrong about that...but that's my opinion.

I believe Kate and TLC have maniacally achieved exactly what they set out to do; 99% of the tabloids, press, talking heads, and blogs are trashing Jon and throwing him under the bus. The focus is all on Jon now, while kate sits back with that sickening cackle and watches Jon go down. I read that TLC is just waiting for kate to get full custody of the kids so they can resume the show. That could be another of a million lies being told, but I wouldn't put it past them. It doesn't necessarily matter what Jon says or does not say to the tabloids, they're going to spin the story they're being paid to spin it. I believe TLC is furious with Jon and still has their fingers in the media war between Jon and Kate. We know they could give a sh*t about the kids. And Kate and her super inflated ego is more than willing to be their weapon. I am really worried that those kid's freedom might be short lived.

So all I'm saying is, it's a David and Goliath situation and Jon sure as hell better win because, unless Kate has an epiphany, he's the only parent that has any shred of an idea how to treat those children.

jonbethereforyourkids said...

Rabbi Smuley is a total star..um..seeker to put it mildly. He gave Jon good advice but I hope he doesn't exploit him. Similarly, I am afraid of Jon's new lawyer and I hope he is also not scamming him for money. I feel like the Glassmans are nice. I follow Hailey's twitter and she seems like a caring soul who is now a homebody and very family oriented. She tweets about how enriching her relationship with an elderly woman in her building has been for her. She seems like a kind person, with some common sense, or at least, potential for common sense. But, she is also very young.

I also wonder about Jon's therapist he quotes all the time. Judging by his therapy bill, he/she seems very expensive and possibly panders to Jon. He needs nurturing but he also needs common sense.

I think Mady is rebelling against Kate's attempts to parentally alienate Jon. She was wary when she saw Jon at the bus stop but by the end of the night, she was crying for him not to leave. Poor, poor kids.

Ohio Buckeye said...

GoPoshGo: Another great post! Love the "$ is a good servant but bad master" - someone really ought to embroider this on one of K8's baby doll dresses for her (since we know she's not exactly the Domestic Goddess she pretends to be).

maggie said...

Even though the kids are off TV all is NOT well. Not by a longshot. Eight kids are forever linked to Jon and Kate. Their divorce is going to be ugly, ugly, ugly and played in the public big time. And both are talking about writing books about it all. That means book tours and more publicity. And the kids will still be "filmed" (on TV) by the hours due to the incessant re-runs of Jon and Kate Plus 8, DVD sales, radonline, magazine & tabloid stories in print & TV etc.

As long as Jon and/or Kate are on TV for any reason whatsoever (whether for an interview or Kate's TLC "project"..tv show.. their kids will be in the news and their lives greatly infected. Yes, I mean infected.

hopeforjon said...

One thing that impressed me about Jon's interview is that he seems to be standing his ground. I hope he means it. His attitude seems to be "come hell or high water, I will battle for my kids" The more he keeps that up, and as long as lays somewhat low on his non custody days, I think the tide will turn in his favor.

Also, he said he is learning in therapy how to talk to his kids. I HOPE that is what he focuses on. I felt that in his ABC interview, though he didn't explicitly say so, he regrets going along with Kate's spanking and half baked ideas on child rearing. When he teared up, I saw remorse for something in him, regarding his kids.

I really hope he can undo some of the damage done by Kate and his uneducated self.

If he stays on a path of learning and self-improvement, Jon in a few years might be a completely different person (in a great, evolved way)

nanb said...

An article of Momlogic.com regarding Jon taking the kids off TV.

http://www.momlogic.com/2009/10/is_jon_gosselin_doing_the_right_thing_for_the_wrong_reason.php

OzNTM said...

I agree with readerlady - the parentdish interview sounds like it was done a few months ago.

PJ from PA said...

The parent dish article was NOT done a few months. Note the reference to the allegedly missing 230k. (That just happened, thereby dating the article to within a week or so).

Im_in_PR said...

Jon files counter claim against Kate for stealing from the marital estate.
(Withdrawing funds and hiding them prior to filing for divorce.)

Im_in_PR said...

One thing that impressed me about Jon's interview is that he seems to be standing his ground. I hope he means it. His attitude seems to be "come hell or high water, I will battle for my kids"

One thing that is starting to bother me about Jon, and I have been on team Jon from jump street, is his seeming willingness and happiness at not having to be bothered so much with dad duties.

time with my kids said...

Im_in_PR said...

One thing that is starting to bother me about Jon, and I have been on team Jon from jump street, is his seeming willingness and happiness at not having to be bothered so much with dad duties.

10/10/2009 5:35 PM

I agree. It's evidenced in his inability to be with his kids when he has them. We've seen him on the four-wheeler, at the fence (ad nauseum), and on his phone when he is supposed to be "spending time with my kids."

I also read an article where a source said that when Jon is with the kids he doesn't spend time with them but is always on his phone.

PaMa said...

his inability to be with his kids when he has them. We've seen him on the four-wheeler, at the fence (ad nauseum), and on his phone when he is supposed to be "spending time with my kids."
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I don't think being with your children necessarily means 24 hours a day. Everyone needs a few minutes a day for themselves.

Geez ... I can sure cut him a little slack on that count.

be with your kids jon said...

Jon may not be the greatest parent, but his kids are crazy about him. You can see the love between them.

Maybe he doesn't care that much about the 'holidays' as Kate does, so he's willing to give them up.

I hope he does spend quality time with his kids. I think the stories about him being a bad parent are planted by Kate's team.

I do worry that he will start a family prematurely with Hailey but I hope he has another 'epiphany' soon about how much his kids need him. I'm sure they will start verbalizing that more, and I hope he listens.

PJ said...

The ParentDish Interview was done the day after the twins birthday. Those are comments Jon made in the last 48 hours

The following questions make it clear it was that recent.

JG: I never said anything demeaning about Kate, just that once on Good Morning America about a month ago or so, I lose track of time. I said I despised her; maybe I despised the things she does. That was the first interview in 4 ½ years by myself.


JG: She hired an attorney that says I stole $230,000 and it's so not true and I can prove it.

PD: And speaking of time with your kids, what happened at the twins' birthday party yesterday?
JG: I went to a hotel last night because I know she didn't want me there. Here was a woman I was married to for 10 years and I can't be in the same room with her.

livnluv said...

I don't worry about Jon and how he is with the kids. He loves them and lets them know it. And he freed them from being filmed and gave them back their childhood. I'd say he's done a day's work.

Kate, on the other hand...

Im_in_PR said...

I believe he loves them. But I am starting to equally believe that he's having a d*mn good time being relieved of so much daddy duty. It's like he's happy to be 300 miles away from them in NYC. He's content to allow Kate to have the majority of their time. He's content and happy in his bachelor pad with Hailey.

When he picked the twins up at the bus he almost instantly stressed out, it was apparent in the way he spoke to them.

I'll never be Team Kate. But I'm way less Team Jon that I was, which was a LOT.

gojon! said...

This part of Jon's interview to popeater sounds sincere and I choose to believe him and hope fervently he walks the walk. I really believe he did what he did for all these years out of love for Kate (who used him) and love for his kids. I pray he gets good people around him and keeps his wits about him and his head on straight.

Do you regret doing the show?

I don't know if I'd be better off or worse had I not done the show. I don't know. I really have ill will towards TLC, but I signed up for it and I had no legal counsel. Sometimes I regret it. I don't know if I'd be better off or worse if I hadn't done the show.

The cool thing was me and Kate never relied on money, we relied on each other, and now it's like money money money. I don't even care about the money. If I was going to steal $230,000, I would have just stolen $2 million. It's all so stupid.

What's coming up for you, professionally or personally?

Right now my gameplan is to get my kids off of the TV. I don't know how well it's going to work, but I'm going to try my hardest. I've fought and everyone's agreed with me, so we'll leave it in the network's hands and Kate's hands and let the public decide how they feel. I stand my ground and will stand my ground about that.

I'm going to take care of my family the best I can and get through this divorce as quickly as possible or as slow as possible. It's really up to Kate. I gave my points on TV, I said I'm going to settle this thing out of court. So that's really what's dictating everything.

equalcustody said...

I'm in PR, where is the proof that he's letting Kate have the majority of the time? I thought they were sharing custody pretty equally. Kate seems adamant about having holidays (since she likes to put on a big show and dress kids up like dolls,and moving them around like puppets, rather than just being there with them)

Maybe Jon thinks giving her those days will make things go more amicably?

letsgivehimachance said...

I'm in PR, I watched ET's coverage of Jon heading back home and to pick the kid's up and what I saw was a man who was AFRAID of what Kate would do. He stood up to her in a big way, stopped the show and spent all week defending himself and airing some of her secrets.

He had never done that to her before. He didn't stand up to her for years. I think it goes against his grain. He seemed afraid for what would happen in that house.

When Jon picked up the girls, all three looked tense. Who knows what Kate had been saying to poison them against Jon that week. Maybe she had been throwing crying rage fits all week and the girls blamed dad. But I believe the story that Mady was crying at the end of the night not wanting Jon to leave. He seems to be able to accept them as they are and in their hearts they probably know that and feel safer when he's around. They probably get a lot of histrionics and drama with just Kate there, and precious little acceptance.

I say we stay on Team Jon a while longer and see what happens and hope for the best.

Im_in_PR said...

@letsgivehimachance

I'm still sort of on his side, but since this started, he has continually messed up and now it seems he is in some kind of state where he is not even making sense any more. I mean, he thinks he's more popular than Michael Jackson?

I think he's been bitten by the same fame bug that Kate was. He just hid it better, for longer.

It worries me for him. What happens to the kids if he cracks? He's already showing how content he is to be away from them for days and days on end.

Kate I do not worry about. She's like a cockroach. If PA was nuked, Kate would still be standing when the smoke cleared.

However, she's a horrible mother.

Im_in_PR said...

equalcustody said...


I'm in PR, where is the proof that he's letting Kate have the majority of the time?


Well, from his recent interview, he talked about how Kate has them Thanksgiving, he's only seeing them a couple of hours on Christmas Day and he's out of town on New Years.

Also, the fact that he moved so very far away from his kids. That bothers me. It's like Jon and his relationship with Hailey are his happy thoughts now, not his kids.

I'm not going Team Kate, I think she's sneaky and dishonest to say the least. But I think Jon needs to get his rear in gear and be a father.

Megan said...

@ I'm in PR

I agree with what you said about Jon moving so far away. I don't expect him to live next door to the McMansion, but 300 miles isn't exactly a reasonable driving distance.

My parents divorced when I was 12 and there was something comforting about the fact that they lived across town from each other. If my mom had a kidney stone and had to go to the hospital, my dad was right there taking care of us. If my dad had to work a side job on a Saturday afternoon(he's in construction) to make some extra money that week, my mom would watch us for that time, no questions asked.

I hope the Gosselin kids find some comfort in the coming days as this divorce is bound to get messier.

Keep8safejon said...

I think he's living in NY for his custody days in order to try to create something for an income flow through branding or something in the entertainment field. He isn't exactly equipped for any other field, and he may as well try to strike while the rod is hot, so to speak.

That said, I hope he's fully available for his kids and doesn't ditch them for Hailey. That is my sincere and only wish for the Gosselin kids. I hope they can escape Kate and her scary rampages.

Keep8safeJon said...

Oops I meant he's living in NY for his NON custody days (sorry!)

livnluv said...

Im_in_PR said...
I believe he loves them. But I am starting to equally believe that he's having a d*mn good time being relieved of so much daddy duty. It's like he's happy to be 300 miles away from them in NYC. He's content to allow Kate to have the majority of their time. He's content and happy in his bachelor pad with Hailey.

When he picked the twins up at the bus he almost instantly stressed out, it was apparent in the way he spoke to them.

I'll never be Team Kate. But I'm way less Team Jon that I was, which was a LOT.
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I totally understand him being stressed when he picked up the girls. He was going to be walking into the lion's den with no idea how loud the lion was going to roar. Kate is SO unpredictable. I honestly don't know how much time each spend with the kids but I think it's pretty close to 50/50. They both have been doing some traveling but according to Jon, when it's his custody time, he makes sure he stays home with the kids. I'm not sure that's always the case with Kate.

Sure, Jon could live closer but everything is so unsettled and volatile right now that's it's hard to say how it's going to end up. The house may be soon put on the market if the income dries up and then everything is going to change anyway.

I guess I look at Jon's time in NY a little differently. If he's happy and can relax between custody times it can only help him when he's around the kids. He was at Kate's beck and call, not to mention her abuse, for a very long time. So yes, I'm sure he feels blessed with the freedom he has now and with having a loving friend that is totally supportive with no expectations. I just can't begrudge him that. But this is just my perspective on things.

Puddymoors said...

I reckon between us, GWOPers could write 'Marketing Multiples - The Tell all expose on how TLC encouraged a family to sell it's children to America'.

The profits would of course be given to a trust to enable a lawyer to be hired for the kids and also a psychologist.

I can see the chapter titles in my head already.

momoffour said...

Yikes,
I agree with you. I first thought it was a joke or satire, but it appears to be the real thing.

http://www.parentdish.com/2009/10/09/jon-gosselin-loves-his-kids-his-girlfriend-and-the-jews/#comments

8POE's said...

I'm going through this int. and bringing up quotes for further analysis here.

"I feel like I'm nomadic". Aren't you the father of 8 in PA?

"Our Nielsons are like 11 million". There's a decimal point between the 1's Jon.

"I'm now half Jewish and half Korean. The family values are great". So only your white half is Jewish? Not ALL of you? Great family values are not uniquely Jewish Jon.

"Hailey is so excited because we're going to go ornament shopping and I'll buy her a stocking". Jews celebrate Christmas now?

"She(his mom) wants to come to the city every year on Yom Kippur." She's ALL Korean. I'm confused.

"Every talk show wants us". No Jon, they don't.

"My parents and grandparents are divorced and I want to break the pattern". Aren't you getting divorced?

"I started writing a book. My book says it all". You said before you didn't know how. Can you spell aluminum yet?

"Kate and I were a great mom and dad". When was this?

"I told Cara and Mady that the things in the magazines are not true. You want the truth you ask Mommy and Daddy". We all know how trustworthy J&K are. Not!

Was he drunk during this?

Come and Get Your Popcorn said...

The paps/interviewers are not there to catch your best look or your best quote but to catch you at your worst, that is what sells.

On these interviews and conversations w/the paps they ask leading questions that are designed to trip you up. Jon has a lot to learn. If really wants to be marketable he should stop giving the paps free press.

Next stand for Jon: Get the paps away from the bus stop!!!!

Your kids are still being traumatized and they are still being exploited and you can't blame that on TLC!

quote of the year said...

Wow, I vote this quote of the year!

"Kate I do not worry about. She's like a cockroach. If PA was nuked, Kate would still be standing when the smoke cleared."

Informational glitches? said...

I didn't see a camera in Jon's car on the infamous birthday night. I admit I didn't watch so very much of that night because it was such a frenzy. What I did see was filming of the property which I have seen before. Didn't look like anyone had more rights than anyone else.
I didn't know NYC moved. Wasn't it just about 120 miles from the Konpound before and now it's 300? So hard to keep up with all the updated information out there.

GoPoshGo said...

Im_in_PR said...
equalcustody said...
.... he's only seeing them a couple of hours on Christmas Day and he's out of town on New Years.

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But now that he's Jewish he'll be spending Hannukah with them. snark.

Ms.Peach said...

PJ from PA said...
The parent dish article was NOT done a few months. Note the reference to the allegedly missing 230k. (That just happened, thereby dating the article to within a week or so).

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Having worked in publishing, it is common to do an article, hold it, and then publish with updated material when it's appropriate to release or there's space.

Ms.Peach said...

I don't get why people are upset about Jon living in NYC. They have assigned custody days. He shows up when it's his turn. Divorced parents don't always live in the same town. Get over it.

Lauren said...

Is this Parentdish interview for real? Jon--what are you smoking these days? I am trying to get behind you here---but with this kind of stuff I am thinking you are as bad as Kate. You need an ego check.

Virginia said...

I still have hopes for Jon to pull it together. When a man has been castrated in public for years, he needs to try to prove he's a man. I'm hoping he turns to his mother and family for advice and guidance through this. The people helping him now are only fueling the fire. Stop talking now, Jon, and take care of your kids.

marsneeze said...

Hey, you know who I miss? Octomom. Yep, that crazy multiple breeder who had her 15 minutes of fame. At least it took the spotlight off J&K for a bit. We need her to come back for another 2 minutes to give poor Jon and Kate a break from the media. We all need a break from them too.

stopthemadness said...

He actually told ParentDish, that he is JUST UNDER MICHAEL JACKSON IN POPULARITY IN THE WORLD!!!!
WHAT!! I cannot BELIEVE what comes out of Jon's mouth. Please shut up, your true ignorance is pouring out each time you speak. I am still in awe over his delusional granduar of himself
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LOL... I think he and Kate are falling prey to that thing that happens when nobodies are suddenly somebodies, they surround themselves with suck ups who say what they want to hear - you normally hear this with kids like Britney Spears and It's understandable, you are 14, or whatever. But these were adults with 8 kids when this started happening to them and I do have to laugh to see Jon's stupidity and naivite - was he asleep all this time, his whole life? "I'm like, wake up Kate" - yeah, wake up to the reality that you are the fifth most "popular" person in the world? He is still in high school in his emotional development. Getting the second most clicks after Michael Jackson in no way makes you "popular" it makes your story viewed. Your train wreck of a divorce. Not your SHOW which at under 2million viewers per episode is no longer even profitable. Is he taking the number of viewers for his "nielson" rating, from this whole season? Not per show?

The photos on popeater of him, in that horrible outfit, dirty hanging jeans, converse tennis shoes like he thinks he's some 14 year old skate board toting California kid - baggy shirt over the huge belly, unshaved, baseball hat on backwards, preening on the hood of his car as he hacks a butt, waiting to pick up his kids - oMG. You want to smack him. Grow UP Jon, you are 33. WIll you still be spouting the numbers your butt kissers tell you in a month, when no one is clicking? "Now I'm 44th most popular person on earth after the President of Iran. Azerbaijani or whatever his name is."

stopthemadness said...

OMG. Could he be living in the reality of the Truman show? The whole world revolves around Jon and Kate. So maybe he IS the 2nd most popular person in the "world". Cara would be first, since everyone likes her. Then Jon who hands out ATVs and Tiffany earrings to people and lets them go swimming. Kate runs at number five, with boy tups following her in popularity since none of their sisters will vote for them.

sigh

stopthemadness said...

poorjon said...
I feel sorry for Jon. His comments show someone who is really naive and unexposed to the world. He's never really been out of PA except for one trip to Europe and his comments make him sound like someone with little exposure to people with religions other than Christianity. To me it seems like he's going through his naive innocent 20's again, experiencing life other than in Kate's hellhole vortex that he was in for 10 years.

He doesn't realize how tacky it is to make comments like he made about Jews, albeit complimentary. He just seems like a rube but I don't think he means harm.
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I don't think he means any harm either I just wonder how you get to be 33 years old, have the experiences he's had - just being ALIVE and being in a world that contains books and the History Channel - and still be so ignorant, and so totally unaware of the Big Picture and able to connect the dots.

If Kate and her family are the exposure he's had to Christians you can see how he might take a dim view of that religion, still, surely, he can realize that what's wrong with Kate is specific to HER -not a "Christian" set of attributes? So then hailey's a Jew and her family of course is as well and those, for him, are the two representatives of two major world religions - lol.
He is so intensely personal in his world view. He doesn't seem to have any experience outside the personal, or to make wider connections. In kate's case I think it's because of her narcissism - but I am starting to wonder if Jon may be THAT limited - went to HS, bummed around smoking dope and skiiing, met Kate, instantly roped into daddyhood, and never looked up, cracked a book, or had time or inclination to examine his own life or much else.

stopthemadness said...

They are being fed false information from people who have an ulterior motive. That's why Kate really believes people love her so much....their information is extremely filtered.
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Well, I can understand that. But consider that in Jon's past he was an IT Analyst, whatever the heck that involves, so he's quite familiar with the web and can access all the info he wants about himself besides being the recipient of filtered information. No matter what, I feel like I'm in the backseat of a roller coaster with him. One day up and one day down, i.e. one day he's my hero and the next day he's embarrassing me. I just don't know what to think anymore

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My thought is, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Just because the guy is immature and a tool doesn't mean he can't get some big things right like protecting his kids from cameras...

if he's got access to the Internet, and you don't have to be an IT specialist for that, he can see just what people are saying about him. I think that may have something to do with why he has suddenly copped on to the fact that many, many people have major issues with the way these kids are being raised, manipulated and used.

He can bash bloggers - and I don't think he necessarily means this blog - but if he's doing the right thing, who cares.

nanb said...

I was looking at sosugary they have have some pics of Jon and the kids this weekend hanging out in the yard. I figure tabloids won't buy those pics, so I thought I'd pass it along.

Also, I always assumed that sosugary was a Kate site but if you go there and see the pics of Kate getting gas this weekend they have a zoomed in pic of Kate's stomach sticking out of her pants. Either Kate has Spanx on her or she needs additional plastic surgery on her stomach since it is wrinkled.

stopthemadness said...

I saw Kate announce with great determination that there was NO WAY she would EVER be apart from her kids for holidays.

That doesn't include their birthdays of course, she was off signing books with Steve when the tups turned five - you can move birthdays around tho, to celebrate them as suits you and TLC's filming schedule.

Major holidays with all the lucrative photo opportunities to dress your kids in Hallowe'en costumes, or alike in little pants and sweaters with turkeys or candy canes on them for the boys, and little brown or red dresses with tights and mary janes for the girls - with their hair combed and braided for once - she cannot give THAT up. Even for their dad to get to have a single holiday with them, and his extended family, which of course, they might like.No they will be trapped at home with Kate, and her plans to profit off them, with holiday episodes, all shot down. Fun.

What I want to know is which church will drop off the free turkey to the impoverished Gosslin home? Or the free C'mas ham? It'll be a fun Cmas this year with few gifts because Daddy won't let us film.

Daddy needs to be down there making sure no one is filming on those holidays, sneaking one in on them. The Gosselin sextuplets celebrate Christmas, all the matching pajamas, the holiday table with food that Kate would have pretended to cook - imagine how furious she must be, she can't have an episode talking about how there will be no pumpkin pie because that's Jon's favorite and even the dessert has to reflect her hatred and betrayal. Lest the kids just enjoy themselves.

She's not gonna get to MILK the holidays, just to HAVE them, with her kids.

Pity!

No Drama Mama said...

@Informational glitches?: I saw clips on ET of Jon talking in his car on his way from NYC to Reading on his daughter's birthday. I think they wired his car with a camera vs having someone traveling with him. Either way, DISGUSTING, Jon. Profiting from your kids bdays. SHAME ON YOU.

Reading is approximately 120 ,iles from Reading, PA and a minimum of two and a half hours travel time.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"I don't get why people are upset about Jon living in NYC. They have assigned custody days. He shows up when it's his turn. Divorced parents don't always live in the same town. Get over it."

No, they don't. But most children don't have a mom who is on the road constantly and another one living in another state. With the nanny raising them, wouldn't you think that the one who is living three hours away would at least want to be close by if, heaven forbid, there was an emergency when the mother is across the country? The mother isn't there to respond to it or comfort her child should something happen. If I were a child, I'd at least feel some sense of well-being knowing that my daddy could be there in a minute's notice if something should happen...not only in a physical emergency, but also to deal with an emotional crisis.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"If PA was nuked, Kate would still be standing when the smoke cleared."

Actually, PA almost was "nuked" during the 1979 Three Mile Island accident. She was four years old at the time and lived less than a half hours from the plant.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"Reading is approximately 120 ,iles from Reading, PA and a minimum of two and a half hours travel time."

I think you mean NYC; regardless, the only time you could make it in 2 1/2 is at 3 in the morning. The traffic is a nightmare.

polly said...

On these interviews and conversations w/the paps they ask leading questions that are designed to trip you up. Jon has a lot to learn. If really wants to be marketable he should stop giving the paps free press.
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Jon talks to the "P" people like they are the camera people from his show. Most celebs ignore the questions and just keep on walking. It's creepy the way he doesn't seem to be able to discriminate between the two.

wickedsmart said...

Kate was nuked as a kid?
That explains a lot.

KyPastor said...

"She(his mom) wants to come to the city every year on Yom Kippur." She's ALL Korean. I'm confused.

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You and me both. Yom Kuppur is not a day to be traveling or hanging out with anybody. It is a serious, holy day of atonement. It is NOT to be taken frivolously. I am truly offended by that flippant
attitude about Yom Kippur being spent in the city. It's spent in prayer, Jon. Deep, penetrating prayer from the soul.

Please find a good book on Judaism so you can brush up on it a little bit before you convert. You'll learn. Thank you.

falling away said...

I agree that it would be better for the kids and Jon if he lived closer to the mansion. Is it far from the former unsold house? Gee, on his custody days he could take the kids back to their real home and they might remember the good ole days. Oh wait, there were no good ole days for the tups!

WillowMc said...

Money-grubbing, fame-whore Kate deserves to go down, and I'll be happy when she does. Jon I feel a little sorrier for. He seems very immature, a little goofy, and kind of lost. He got sucked in initially by Kate and basically let her lead him around by the nose -- having all those kids, the show, the "poverty" lies in churches, etc. Why? Why did he believe it was okay to let Kate rule him?

But I really blame a LOT of this family's destruction on Eileen O'Neill and TLC. They were filming this family day in and day out, and they could see the deterioration. They could see Kate's growing greedy preoccupation with money and things -- "Mine, all mine." They could watch Kate transformed from a dark-haired normal mom/nurse to a sleezy-looking, bleached blonde with hooker clothes. And TLC marched on. TLC kept feeding the Gosselins money, trips, freebies, whatever. Never once did any TLC exec say, "You know, this isn't the family we started out with. These aren't the normal parents with eight kids who are trying to make it that made our show in the beginning. All this money and attention is changing and destroying them." Many viewers could see the changes, but not TLC. Eileen and TLC watched the train wreck and said, "Oh boy, ratings! Money!" To me, they are despicable. I never watched much TLC anyway, and I am not going to start now. I wonder if Eileen and TLC feel any remorse for what they've done. They grew the beasts the Kate and Jon turned out to be.

And now it seems that TLC is taking sides and bolstering Kate with money and lawyers for MORE ratings and money. Totally despicable. I guess I am naive, but I had no idea TV networks did this kind of stuff.

Pamela Jaye said...

I'm so sad about the ParentDish interview. At first I too though it HAD to be satire.

11 million viewers may have been their peak. I thought it was 9. Jon, I'd spend some of that money on college classes or something.

So sad.

what is this about Lawyer sponsorship?

Yup, ATVs are dangerous, I've heard. But favoritism? I think he just bought each girl what she would prefer to get. (I'd be thrilled with a (new) laptop - as long as it didn't have Vista)

stopthemadness said...

Pa Mom Knows said...
"If PA was nuked, Kate would still be standing when the smoke cleared."

Actually, PA almost was "nuked" during the 1979 Three Mile Island accident. She was four years old at the time and lived less than a half hours from the plant.
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OMG! Now we see the dangers of nuclear energy!

The person grows up with a more or less human body but the personality of a wounded bear.

WillowMc said...

I'm_in_PR said:
Kate I do not worry about. She's like a cockroach. If PA was nuked, Kate would still be standing when the smoke cleared.
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Very funny! LOL!

No Drama Mama said...

@PA Mom Knows: Yes, that is what I meant! LOL Too much going on in my brain this weekend!

And you are right. The only time you will make it to NYC from Reading in 2.5-3 hours is in the middle of the night OR on a Bieber bus!

my9cats said...

marsneeze said...

Hey, you know who I miss? Octomom. Yep, that crazy multiple breeder who had her 15 minutes of fame. At least it took the spotlight off J&K for a bit. We need her to come back for another 2 minutes to give poor Jon and Kate a break from the media. We all need a break from them too.
10/11/2009 9:40 AM

Your comment is what I've been thinking of for a long while.
The only people who paid attention to KON were the few that watched the show and (for better or worse) blogged about it. Attempts were made to get the media involved to investigate what was going on but no one cared. Then Octomom gave birth in January and things changed.

While Octo was condemned, ridiculed and attacked for "selling her babies" for money, the KON's were doing the same thing for a lot longer. In fact they wrote the primer. Things changed when in February Jon was caught in bars. The scrutiny began slowly at first then speeding to today's debacle.

Where before KON was under the radar, with the advent of Octomom they burst out with a sordid roar. Finally the media was paying attention to KON.

I wonder, if Octomom had never appeared, would KON still be under the radar, leading their corrupt lives? I'll bet KON rues the day Octomom gave birth and put their life under a microscope.

Remember when... said...

marsneeze said...
Hey, you know who I miss? Octomom...

I miss Tree Man. Oohh...to go back to the days when TLC was normal and only exploited people from overseas.

ihatefrogs said...

Did you feel ambushed by Nancy Grace during the Insider interview?

I think the Jon vs. Nancy Grace was a total PR stunt instigated by none other than Nancy Grace herself. Nancy Grace's book was released a month or so ago and have I yet to see it make the NY Times Best Seller's List.

Ohio Buckeye said...

StopTheMadness, for whatever it's worth, I think your assessment of Jon is right on target.



Those poor 8 kids. On a rudderless ship for sure.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"And you are right. The only time you will make it to NYC from Reading in 2.5-3 hours is in the middle of the night OR on a Bieber bus!"

I'll pass on the Bieber bus. I've heard far too many horror stories, especially on icy roads!

I wonder, though, why he doesn't take the train. It would be so much easier and so much faster! Perhaps in winter weather he just may have to do that.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"OMG! Now we see the dangers of nuclear energy!"

I knew my comment was going to open up a post about the after-effects of radiation! You didn't disappoint! LOL!

Pa Mom Knows said...

"She(his mom) wants to come to the city every year on Yom Kippur." She's ALL Korean. I'm confused."

He meant that since there is no traffic in NYC on Yom Kippur, she wants to come on that day because it is less crowded and easier to get around!

GoPoshGo said...

Pa Mom Knows said...

Actually, PA almost was "nuked" during the 1979 Three Mile Island accident. She was four years old at the time and lived less than a half hours from the plant.

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Well, that explains the wonky eye.

Suzi said...

My9cats said...

Where before KON was under the radar, with the advent of Octomom they burst out with a sordid roar. Finally the media was paying attention to KON.

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When Kate was on Dr. Phil to bash Octomom, my husband said he thought Kate and TLC were trying to go on the offensive so that the public wouldn't figure out that Octomom and Kate were basically the same. This was before the firestorm and before I was put on bedrest and watched the reruns this spring, so I laughed at what I thought was an extreme conspiracy theory. Now I know he was probably right.

Fool us once, Eileen O'Neill...

Suzi said...

He doesn't realize how tacky it is to make comments like he made about Jews, albeit complimentary. He just seems like a rube but I don't think he means harm.
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If he has a good enough time on Halloween he'll probably be telling us he's now Wiccan...

Im_in_PR said...

GoPoshGo said...



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Well, that explains the wonky eye.


Y'all crack me up. In a good way.

Im_in_PR said...

But I really blame a LOT of this family's destruction on Eileen O'Neill and TLC.

Isn't it strange that Eileen O'Neil claims to care so much about Planet Earth and feminist issues, but when it came to participating in destroying a family and saying it was no big shift for the kids that Jon was gone, she was johnny on the spot.

Im_in_PR said...

Informational glitches? said...


I didn't know NYC moved. Wasn't it just about 120 miles from the Konpound before and now it's 300? So hard to keep up with all the updated information out there.


I thought Jon said it was 3 hours drive time. I assumed that was about 300 miles. My apologies for being incorrect about the mileage.

Informational glitches said...

Im_in_PR said...
I thought Jon said it was 3 hours drive time. I assumed that was about 300 miles. My apologies for being incorrect about the mileage.

I apologize for being such a crab. It's like the old telephone game where you whisper a story to your friend, they whisper to the next, on down the line until at the end the story is unrecognizable. I had seen the distance grow and grow and just wanted to get NYC back in the US. And I live (in rush hour with one disabled car on the road) more than an hour out of the city. The distance: 6 miles.

LP said...

Let's face it, they're both total jack asses! They are now in a contest to see why can kick and bray the loudest!

Pamela Jaye said...

I liked the popeater interview. Made Jon sound less stupid. Also note that he KNOWS that anything less than live TV can be edited to make you look bad.

Actually he might consider going to college and becoming some kind of media advisor (gotta up his worldview slightly before letting him advise others.)

If he wrote a book, I'd read it. If it was decent, I'd *buy* it. (hey, if it keeps the kids off the air...)

Pamela Jaye said...

Jon and Kate may not be top "celebrities" but it's remotely possible they are in the Top 5 celebrity news of the week category. I was in the bank and someone was talking about them on TV. At this point I think you'd have to live in a cave to miss them.

My guess is, based on the Larry King/Nancy Grace/ET interviews, that sometimes Jon reaches for a word and picks the wrong one. Or phrases things poorly. Something like that. At least he is not making up his own words. ;-)

that said, the parent (adviser?) made him look stupid and naive. hopefully it's just poor communication skilled due to Kate not letting him talk for 10 years.

Calgary7 said...

I feel sorry for any family law court judge as some of these divorces can get right down and dirty,

but,

to have to come back after losing a family member last week to deal with these two idiots who are extraordinarily blessed seems really unfair.

torgoman said...

Jon’s Parentdish interview was the sort of Q&A that I’d expect from someone who’s talking on a cell phone at a loud restaurant, probably at a table with other people. Calling himself the second most photographed person on the planet seemed to be a joke that followed comments about the paparazzi hounding him. And people who are in a new relationship can be so smitten that they tend to overdo it and sound silly by talking about what all they love about the other person.

Jon might not be eloquent, but he seems sincere about not wanting his children being filmed. And there are moments, like in the Popeater interview, that sound like therapy really has helped him gain perspective on these last few years and his marriage to Kate.

I’ve been waiting for Jon to finally get his head on straight. Walking around for most of the year looking like a frat boy fashion disaster didn’t help any. It’s been frustrating, but overcoming years of passive behavior and learning how to stand up for himself takes time. Especially after your life and marriage has collapsed and been overrun by TLC and the tabloid media.

While Kate (with TLC’s help) has been winning the PR battles, it could be Jon who eventually comes out winning the war.

I believe he’ll be the one to move out of the public eye gracefully, not Kate. While both have appreciated the money of recent years, Kate is the one motivated by celebrity attention, not Jon. She’s believed her own hype, and that will hurt her once TLC no longer has her back. All the animosity she has sewn will come back to bite her on the tummy tuck. The pendulum will swing the other way and then it’s Kate’s turn to face media scrutiny. And even if she loses a catfight to Nancy Grace, Kate will have to be dragged kicking and screaming from the spotlight. I honestly believe eventually she’ll try to get on Dancing with the Stars. (Can you imagine Kate with her dancing partner? “No, Kate! I’m the one who’s supposed to lead!”)

Also, without TLC’s supply of free help, Kate will have to rely on Jon to take the kids off her hands. And if more photos with Jon and his kids like the ones on sugarypop.com are posted in the tabloids media opinion would swing more in his direction. If one thing this recent media circus has taught me is how powerful image is in shaping public opinion. I believe this would happen if TLC would just leave.

I question if he and Hailey really have a future. All the talk about a clothing line and her handling his schedule makes me wonder if she’ll be around once the cameras stop filming and Jon falls back into a normal life. Or she spends a long afternoon with his eight children.

My biggest worry is that Jon seems like the type who’s more comfortable in a relationship. I can see him remarrying. I just don’t want it to be too soon. Reestablishing a supportive circle of family like Jodi is more important.

How to NOT be a good celebrity said...

Pamela Jaye said...
I liked the popeater interview. Made Jon sound less stupid. Also note that he KNOWS that anything less than live TV can be edited to make you look bad.

Actually he might consider going to college and becoming some kind of media advisor (gotta up his worldview slightly before letting him advise others.)
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Jon is the last person who should be advising anyone on how to talk to the media. His foot is permanently in his mouth, he has verbal diarrhea, thinks the paparazzi are good people and is willing to give them interviews constantly, does sloppy damage control and provides bad explanations, is not poised or articulate or convincing, and he is just so unaware and naive. Worst of all, he doesn't know how to filter information. It just all pours out.

He says he wants to continue in the entertainment business but the only thing he has that fits the job description is an inflated ego. I am cringing in second hand embarrassment already thinking about his "hosting" gig for NYE with Eva Longoria.

I don't know what his "IT analyst" job entailed but I think he's better off going to school and maybe learning something to do with cars, or maybe he could teach kids how to snowboard.

Self-AbsorbedParents said...

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/cover-draft-2009910

Go Away Gosselins! said...

This is to all those who are singing Jon's praises for stopping TLC from filming...

I completely agree that it was an awesome move on his part to get TLC out of there and get his kids off of tv. HOWEVER...there is a video on Radar of the kids carrying pumpkins and the video looks like it was shot very close. It could have been shot from the fence with a very good lens so I don't want to speculate that Jon let someone on the property to film. ALTHOUGH, there is a guy following the family taking pictures on the property. The video clearly shows him.

Ordinarily, I would not assume that Jon would allow this guy to come on his property for videos/pictures for his own personal compensation but I really don't put it past him. Whose to say he didn't stop the TLC show because he wasn't benefiting from it but then went on to hire people personally to film/photograph his kids? I don't know this for sure but I don't think him and Kate are ethical and I don't put it past him (or her) to do something like that.

BOTH JON AND KATE SELL THEIR KIDS OUT FOR MONEY. They are despicable human beings and I don't give praise to either one of them!

Skeptical Viewer said...

WillowMc said, "I really blame a LOT of this family's destruction on Eileen O'Neill and TLC."

Yes, and because many people think this, someone well-versed in legal matters recently told me that depending on PA law, Jon might have a case for suing TLC for "alienation of affection" -- although the arguments would be a stretch, since Jon originally signed off on letting TLC "woo" his wife.

Ms.Peach said...

Regarding the Radar video of the kids with pumpkins: someone commented that this was shot up close. It was not. A telephoto lens was used. Notice there's no close up sound, but the road noise is loud. BUT....there was a man in the video and he was TAKING PHOTOS. Maybe for a tabloid?

GosselinParentsSuck said...

I agree. Saw the camera man video taping the kids on Radar Online. Jon has lost his mind having someone video tape his kids after all his stink about them not being taped! How crazy are these two. I am losing any respect I had for him after he put a hold on TLC taping the kids.

I am hoping the Judge in this case will not only issue a gag order against either of them publicly speaking badly about the other, for the sake of the kids, but also will issue an order that neither parent are to tape the children's activities for profit. This is simply ridiculous. Neither parent has any moral fiber or credibility at this point. They both need to cease and desist.

Come and Get Your Popcorn said...

Did anyone watch the View today? I had it on and was in and out of the room and they had a another mother of sextuplets and the Duggers talking about taking care of a large family, multiples, etc. I could have missed it but I heard no mention of the Gosselins which I thought was kind of strange for that type of show and it being the View.

Go Away Gosselins! said...

I had it on and was in and out of the room and they had a another mother of sextuplets

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She didn't have sextuplets...she has 6 children but she gave birth to them one at a time over several years.

Same with the Duggers. They may be a large family but none of the children are sextuplets.

I'm glad they didn't talk about the Gosselins...that would just give them more publicity. Plus stupid Whoopi, Joy, and Barbara (can't stand them!) would've all taken up for Kate anyway because that seems to be their track record.

bcsurvivor2001 said...

Does ROL check ANY of their information before they post stories? I found this under the photos section.....showed several pix of the 2 of them out in NYC with the following as a caption...

"Jon Gosselin takes his girlfriend Hailey Glassman out for a night on the town during his last day in NYC. He boarded a plane the next day to Reading, PA to be with his twin daughters on their birthday."

Take note of im BOARDING A PLANE THE NEXT DAY???????

What?

and they also had about 6 pix of TLC supposedly moving out their equipment. Funny though - no story only a very small caption of "TLC moves out".

Not story worthy huh?

carezee said...

Did you notice in the video where Jon is picking up the twins at the bus on their birthday, one of the girls says to him "I don't like your outfit" Nice thing to say to your dad. They really need to learn some manners. Must get that from mommy.

f8k8 said...

Radar does not do any fact checks. They misspelled Mady in their story of Jon taking the twins to Starbucks.

They even claim in a few pics that Kate took Mady to get her nails done. When it was clearly Cara.

Last but not least, Radar mistook ET "Live Stream of Jon return home", as Jon allowing ET to Stream the twins Bday live. LOL, that was an EPIC fail or radar and everyone who bashed Jon based on that false story.

f8k8 said...

Did you notice in the video where Jon is picking up the twins at the bus on their birthday, one of the girls says to him "I don't like your outfit" Nice thing to say to your dad. They really need to learn some manners. Must get that from mommy.

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lol, I actually thought that was pretty funny. Jon was wearing a ridiculous looking jacket.

Ms.Peach said...

I just read on another site that the photographer shooting photos in the Radar clip is from OK! magazine. At the end of the video there's a tup boy in cowboy boots sitting alone next to a pumpkin. Here's the link
cdn.okmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/
infphoto_1087293.jpg

Canadian issue?

Proof positive the tabloids are in their PR pockets.

livnluv said...

f8k8 said...
Did you notice in the video where Jon is picking up the twins at the bus on their birthday, one of the girls says to him "I don't like your outfit" Nice thing to say to your dad. They really need to learn some manners. Must get that from mommy.

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lol, I actually thought that was pretty funny. Jon was wearing a ridiculous looking jacket.
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Sounds exactly like something kate would say to him. Those kids are learning from their mom...and that's the problem.

livnluv said...

and they also had about 6 pix of TLC supposedly moving out their equipment. Funny though - no story only a very small caption of "TLC moves out".

Not story worthy huh?

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haha. Yes. I thought the same thing when it was getting hard to confirm the move. Quite obvious TLC is controlling the media stories. They don't want it to be known that they might have lost the battle. I noticed 18 Kids & Counting is getting more press these days. They had a phone interview with The View this morning about the new grandbaby.

Ms.Peach said...

If it took two vans, then they removed the couch interview furniture and anything else in the house that belonged to TLC. I'm surprised that this has not been bigger news because it represents TLC anticipating this as a long term if not permanent break. Shame that it took a divorce to end the show.

NeeNee said...

Gag Me!

Monday, October 12, 2009
Kate Gosselin: Bus Stop Beauty

Seemingly not ready to let go, Kate Gosselin wore a ring again on her wedding finger while picking up her kids at the bus stop in Reading on Monday (October 12).

The TLC reality mom looked quite glamorous in a bright red jacket - looking happy to help her littlest children off the bus as she carried their backpacks and stuffed animals.

http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/kate-gosselin-bus-stop-beauty-212091/#blog

Aunt Chris said...

In the latest pictures, mostly on sosugary.com, the kids are mostly in summer clothes, while adults are wearing long pants and jackets. What, the kids aren't affected by the cold snap in the Northeast? and please, get them some sneakers and out of the crocs!

makes no sense said...

So if Jon allowed OK Magazine to film the kids and their pumpkins this past weekend, doesn't that break his vow of not talking to the press for now? I'm sure he didn't remain mute around those reporters.I wonder how much he was paid for that one? What kind of message is he sending to the kids - "Daddy got rid of the meanies who film you BUT I'm going to have these other guys come over with their cameras...."

roflmao said...

Jane Valez-Mitchell on HLN often as segments on the Gosselin drama. I almost peed myself laughing tonight...they were showing Kate saying she couldn't pay her bills..pan to JVM with a tissue pretending to cry. She said oh please and she filed for spousal support? She's the one who makes all the money. She quoted US Weekly about the kids acting out and said who can blame them. I'm out of sorts and acting out just listening to all of this! LOLOL

someone taker her box of wine away said...

Aunt Chris... She had the girls in tights in the middle of summer, so it makes perfect sense that she would dress them in crocs in the middle of fall.

mommatomany said...

Ok I know I should SO not be watching and you may have already heard this but....TLC just now announced * with a limited number of episodes left....blah blah blah.* So I guess it IS really ending???

Im_in_PR said...

Last but not least, Radar mistook ET "Live Stream of Jon return home", as Jon allowing ET to Stream the twins Bday live. LOL, that was an EPIC fail or radar and everyone who bashed Jon based on that false story.

Actually, all day long on ET's website, they claimed they were going to be streaming live from inside the birthday party. Then when the time came and went, ET removed that teaser from their website.

Steph said...

Michael Lohan was at the Gosselin house! I really don't know what to say.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/12/lohan-and-gosselin-father-knows-worst/#comments

f8k8 said...

Actually, all day long on ET's website, they claimed they were going to be streaming live from inside the birthday party. Then when the time came and went, ET removed that teaser from their website.

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I was on ET's website that day. I not once did I see any claim of the bday stream.

This is what they had that day:

http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/10/79492/index.html

ET to Stream As Jon Gosselin Arrives Home
Estranged reality couple Jon and Kate Gosselin are set to come face-to-face as they celebrate their twins Cara and Mady's ninth birthday today in Pennsylvania -- and ET will be streaming every moment as Jon arrives at their shared home.

Will there be fallout from Kate's new custody demands, where she asked for Jon to only be at the house for two hours?

"It could be WWIII when I get home," Jon told ET on Wednesday as he went shopping for their birthday presents. "She's trying to change custody but I won't allow that. She's basically saying itt would be too stressful to the kids to have both of us here, like we originally planned."

Keep checking back here for the stream!

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No where does it is they will be streaming the bday party. Although I could see how some may "confuse" it if they just ran thru the article quickly.

torgoman said...

I smell setup. Michael Lohan crashes because he knows the cameras will catch him there.

I thought I'd read elsewhere that he just "stopped by" briefly.

Lohan is so sleazy I wouldn't be surprised if the tabloids staged it for him to be there.

Or Lohan read about Jon not wanting to do his reality show and decided to pay him back by showing up unannounced before his court hearing and making him look bad.

Kates a crock said...

Thats so true. Leave it to Kate the fashion plate. Dress the kids in tights in 90 degree weather this summer, and now in 50 degree weather this fall, outside in crocks and bare feet. Kate is a crock.

anotherthing... said...

the *only a few episodes left* junk scares me b/c to me, it means TLC is going to speed up the trains before the final collision... to boost the ratings as much as they can to squeeze every last dime out of the show...

so while it seems like things are quiet.... im tempted to say its the calm before the storm.

and on a side note... jon needs to stay the eff away from the nut-case-freakshow lohan family. omg.

Suzi said...

Re: Pics of Kate at bus stop:

1) What is with the ring? Does ANYONE make such a huge deal about removing their wedding ring when they get divorced?

2) Why do the children still dress alike?? I've thought it was strange all along - they aren't identical, which seems to be when some parents of multiples regularly do the matchy-matchy thing.

MeMeMeKate said...

1) What is with the ring? Does ANYONE make such a huge deal about removing their wedding ring when they get divorced?

Kate would like everyone to think she is doing this for her kids, when in reality she justs love the "bling" of her second ring, as the first one was not up to her standards.

2)Why do the children still dress alike?? I've thought it was strange all along - they aren't identical, which seems to be when some parents of multiples regularly do the matchy-matchy thing.

Kate does this to remind people of how she gave birth to the tups. It makes her happy and keeps the "brand" going. If she really cared about the kids, she would let them be individuals, particularly at school, so they can start developing their own identities, apart from being a tuplet. Selfish Kate. Cara and Mady have obviously won the battle on this issue.

WakeUpJon said...

Michael Lohan was at the Gosselin house! I really don't know what to say.

Jon really needs to wake up! He attracts every sleazy wanna-be, one after the other. Jon, learn to say NO!! We know you weren't allowed to say NO while married to Kate, but time to grow up and discard toxic users!

KatesBigFlintstoneToe said...

Does anyone else notice when Kate is dressed as a Hooker with the boobs bustin' out, 8 inch heels & all, she parks very far from the schoolbus so she can walk & walk and have all the Paps take pictures, but on the days when she has no make-up, ugly hat on, and ugly brown flat shoes, she almost pulls right up to the bus's door!?

bcsurvivor2001 said...

I so try to be bigger and not be caty but this is just too good to pass up.

1. One screen but we can still see ya so go get the hired help http://gosselins.sosugary.com/displayimage.php?album=291&pos=2

2. There - that's much better http://gosselins.sosugary.com/displayimage.php?album=291&pos=0

3. OK - all done I'm on my way http://gosselins.sosugary.com/displayimage.php?album=291&pos=1

Ms.Peach said...

TMZ just broke this:

The judge in the Jon and Kate Gosselin divorce clearly has had it up to here .... he didn't rule on any of the epic conflicts but ordered Jon and Kate to settle up and work it out with the arbitrator. The judge said he'll be down with anything the arbitrator decides ... with one provision -- it has to be in the best interests of the children.

The judge said any monies taken improperly from the joint account should be returned, but he didn't get specific. He also admonished Jon and Kate to keep things "private" and "amicable." Good luck with that.

Before the short open hearing, lawyers met with the judge in chambers for about an hour but no settlement was reached.

They're due back in court on October 26.

bcsurvivor2001 said...

Can someone please explain to me how this is actually legal?

http://gosselins.sosugary.com/displayimage.php?album=291&pos=16

Are you telling me I can go in a public parking lot with a camera and actually follow people around - legally - taking their pictures and that's OK? There seems to be some kind of invasion policy violation going on here.

I know it's public property but there is just something about this that SHOULD be wrong/illegal if it's not.

Not for just her but EVERYONE. This scares the bagebbies out of me if this is OK for anybody to do.

And this is the SAME kid (that's what he looks like-a kid) that's seen at the bus pick up also

Ms.Peach said...

I went to sosugary to see the pics of Kate in her infamous red jacket. Boy, oh boy, the boobies are out there. How embarrassing for Cara and Mady.

And can this woman not ever go anywhere without some type of beverage?

The visit to Kinko's----utterly unbelievable. Even I have a copier/fax/printer. Goodness, she can afford more than one! Is it because she can charge it to TLC? I just don't get it. Got to be for the photo op to show what a busy mom she is.

Suzi said...

I just read on the FOX online site that the judge didn't rule on any of the issues but scolded them and told Jon and Kate to work it out privately. I also think making the hearings going forward public is brilliant! It will help entice them to privately settle this ASAP.

As a snarky aside, the outfit Kate wore to court was AWFUL! Seriously, who wears a low-cut tank top to meet with the judge??? Could someone call Stacey and Clinton for an intervention??

Lauire said...

With a limited number of episodes left of "Jon&Kate+8"....remember, on 2 November they are supposed to go to "Kate+8". It's all in the way the annoncer worded it and what he didn't say. This show is not stopping any time soon IMO. Both Kate and TLC will continue to milk this cash cow until she dries up and dies.

how this works said...

Jon has to replace all of the money he took from the family's account. It wouldn't matter if Kate had a billion dollars invested somewhere - that particular account wasn't to be touched as per a court arbitrator. Kate wrote all checks to cover family expenses from their everyday account - if she overdrew that account the bank was authorized to take funds from the savings account. When Jon withdrew all the funds from the savings account, the bank notified Kate and that's when this started.

The allocation of any other money from all other investments and accounts would have been divided up as part of the divorce. For those who say that Jon was just taking what was owing to him - that wasn't the way he should have taken it. He would have received his fair share if he had waited. Now he has to come up with a whole lot of funds quickly.

If Kate has removed any money from that account, she has to pay it back as well - unless it was withdrawn by the bank to cover checks written for household expenses, tuition etc.

Mona said...

Suzi said...
I just read on the FOX online site that the judge didn't rule on any of the issues but scolded them

$$$$$$

Somebody scolded Kate? Oh my! Wouldn't I have loved to see her expression. Nobody scolds Kate because Kate is never wrong. Oh my. If Kate wasn't pissed off enough, now this.

RachieK. said...

bcsurvivor2001 said...
Can someone please explain to me how this is actually legal?
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It's totally legal... its a public place. That's why we see so many pics of her in the parking lot or through the store window. If they are on the side walk they are fine, so they just shoot through the window. Real celebs have been fighting for paparazzi laws for decades, but its gotten sooo much worse in the past 10 years or so.

I live very close by the Gosselins, and have often thought, since their divorce announcement anyway, that I could make a killing by quitting my day job and following Jon and Kate around. Now I mentioned once earlier that I drove by their house last weekend, and felt dirty seeing their kids playing outside, like a voyeur. But there were paparazzi there, creeping along the fence, equipment stashed in the wooded bank. After that encounter I realize that, if for no other reason, I would not be able to do it simply because it feels wrong. It's a definite invasion of privacy, whether it's legal or not. Especially when it involves kids.

~Please note, I would never really quit my job to stalk the Gosselins just to make a few bucks (or thousands, lol), but my brief adventure in Gosselin-land proved to me how sick you have to be to BE a paparazzo.

Ms.Peach said...

The judge did not make a ruling. You are misinterpreting what People.com is reporting. It is up to arbitration to determine if any monies were removed and who should return what. The judge was only stating that IF money was removed, it should be returned. If they could not agree through arbitration, he'll see them in court on Oct. 26. He'll make a ruling then most likely.

Melissa P. Gentry said...

Kate STILL has to prove that the money she took was used for the proper means and not some 'handwritten' note she jotted down. She has to have certifiable receipts from vendors (schools, utility companies, mortgage company, etc.). She can't just say she paid household expenses out of the account and that's it. She has to PROVE it. She isn't off the hook. Arbitrators carry A LOT of weight in court.

Y? said...

OK - I caved and watched the "court arrival" video on TMZ.
One HUGE Question: Please someone?
WHAT IS WITH THE EVER-PRESENT, **TWO** PURSES??
Why???!!!??

grannyoftwo said...

Kate wrote all checks to cover family expenses from their everyday account

I just hope that the court does not consider her tannings, hair butcher job, mani & pedis, and spa treatments as household expenses. If so, then whatever Jon needed for his personal use as far as taking care of himself should be taken into consideration also.

grannyoftwo said...

There are plenty of ways that Kate can make her personaly expenses look like household expenses. For example: writing a check for 20, more than the bill and using that for herself. Or when you use your debit card just pushing the 20. more money needed and there you go. If these bills are not looked at closely and her word is only taken for it, well Jon is out of luck!

PJ said...

I will say Kate and her lawyer looked happier than Jon and his laywer walking out of court. Maybe the arbitrator did designate what moneys were "improperly" taken and Jon knows he has to get the money back in the account. If not, I still think Jon has problems on his hands with the gag order.

Jon was making money from Entertainment Tonight with all his interviews and that source of income has dried up for him at least temporarily.

Also, if TLC stopped the perks for Kate, they did so for Jon as well. So he will need to start coughing up the $5000/month rent on his Manhatten apartment.

I think Jon is facing a very immediate financial problem of his own.

Melissa P. Gentry said...

Some facts you should all know about Jon and Kate’s situation. Arbitration is the process whereby an arbitrator resolves the issues existing between you and your spouse following a proceeding that is conducted very much like a hearing or a trial. Arbitration is usually binding, which means that neither party can appeal the arbitrator's decision. It is the arbitrator’s job to hear the case. However, like some judges, an arbitrator, before hearing the case, may try to convince both sides to settle based upon what they know of the case up to that point. This is different from working with the parties to identify and come to mutual agreement about issues like in a mediation. If the parties don’t resolve their issues, the case goes back before the judge.

Arbitration awards are final, binding, and legally enforceable, subject only to limited review by the courts. The court does not second guess the arbitrator's decision as to the facts or the law because arbitrators hear testimony and receive evidence in a joint hearing based on which they render a final and binding decision, known as an award.

Also, keep in mind arbitration is less formal than a court trial and the hearing is private. If Jon and Kate cannot resolve their issues, the hearing WILL be public and I truly believe KATE does not want the public to know how much she really has hidden. That is why there has been a "truce" for the last few days.

Hope this has helped. For the sake of the CHILDREN, I hope they resolve their issues and don’t let their issues go public.

jibberjabbers said...

Kate and her Lawyer looked like what most criminals would look like after getting away with a crime.

Jon looked like what most victims would look like after the "criminal" goes free.

MeMy said...

half Jewish now?? Ehh, maybe shalom in the home can come try to help.

livnluv said...

If not, I still think Jon has problems on his hands with the gag order.
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What gag order? Kate and her lawyers have already made a statement.
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from TMZ

Jon Gosselin Ordered to Return $180,000
Posted Oct 13th 2009 2:02PM by TMZ Staff

TMZ has learned Jon Gosselin has been ordered to return $180,000 in marital funds, which were removed in violation of an arbitrator's order.

According to Kate's lawyer, Mark Momjian, "The remaining sum of $55,000, which Ms. Gosselin used for household bills and expenses relating to the children, will be subject to further determination by the arbitrator at a later date."

Jon is required to repay the loot by October 26 -- the next hearing -- or appear before the judge for a contempt proceeding.

The judge also ordered Kate to provide an accounting of past
expenses -- also due by Oct. 26.

Kate says, "As difficult as this has been for me, I am pleased that the Court has ruled fairly on behalf of myself and my children. Now that this matter has been ruled on, I look forward to returning to private arbitration, as we have agreed to do, to resolve any remaining issues"

Done With This Mess said...

Kate is a witch. How dare she HIDE behind her children's back to gain all the MARITAL assets. Those children EARNED that money NOT Jon or Kate and she should be shunned by everyone.

crazyville said...

I actually think they SHOULD go public and account for all their money because I have a terrible suspicion Jon is getting fleeced and that TLC is helping Kate get away with GRAND LARCENY.

I'm sorry, she didn't earn all that money on her own! Beth wrote the book, Jon gave some of the talks and stayed with the kids when she spoke. But
I think she will stop at nothing to keep ALL of it! I don't think her kids will see any of it either.

I hope she goes to jail!!

Calgary7 said...

She wore *THAT* to court?

Why?

Is she (check all that apply)

[] showing her complete contempt of the whole proceeding?

[] trying to spin an image that she is poorer that she is and barely afford to clothe herself?

[] showing how low her self-esteem is?

[] trying to manipulate the press?

f8k8 said...

So nothing is mentioned of the missing million? And the 230k Kate said Jon took, 180k has to be returned and Kate has to provide an expense report for the missing 50k?

If Jon really only withdrew 22k as he claimed, all he has to do is go to the bank and request a copy of the withdrawal slip of every withdrawal made within the last 2-3 months.

That withdrawal slip will show who signed for it. If they want to dig deeper, just review the security tape of the date and time each withdraw was made.

It's not that complicated.

Suzi said...

Y! said...

WHAT IS WITH THE EVER-PRESENT, **TWO** PURSES??
Why???!!!??
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LOL! I posted about this the other day - I wanted to make sure this wasn't some fashion trend that just hasn't made it to the midwest yet...

I read on FOX Philly that the judge didn't actually make any rulings this morning and just told them that "all money" should be put back and to work it out in arbitration before the next hearing (I think on 10/26). So no one won or lost, they both just got chewed out. Kate's statement is ridiculous. Does she REALLY think the public isn't on to her antics??

Bonnie said...

$55k in expenses related to the children????? I make less than that and support my parents and myself in expensive Massachusetts.

Something smells fishy here. Don't trust Khate's attorney not to spin things to make her look better.

Suddenly she wants to take things private????

I have only one more word for this situation UGH!

KateThe Scammer said...

crazyville said...
I actually think they SHOULD go public and account for all their money because I have a terrible suspicion Jon is getting fleeced and that TLC is helping Kate get away with GRAND LARCENY.

I'm sorry, she didn't earn all that money on her own! Beth wrote the book, Jon gave some of the talks and stayed with the kids when she spoke. But
I think she will stop at nothing to keep ALL of it! I don't think her kids will see any of it either.

I hope she goes to jail!!
_______________________

Amen! Kate is the ultimate scam master, who truly believes when she traveled, these are HER earnings! Never mind Jon took care of THEIR kids so she could do this. Can we say Community Property during the life of the marriage....

Suzi said...

Mona said...

Somebody scolded Kate? Oh my! Wouldn't I have loved to see her expression. Nobody scolds Kate because Kate is never wrong. Oh my. If Kate wasn't pissed off enough, now this.
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Yeah, and in what can only be interpreted as a big F U to the judge, Kate almost immediately issued a statement making it sound like she "won" today and would not settle things quietly. I would so love to have a few beers with that judge. I hope Jon's lawyer has already sent a copy of Kate's statement to the court and asked for a gag-order or charges of contempt.

I'm actually a very nice person. But I'd really like to slap some sense into that crazy b*tch.

correction said...

So nothing is mentioned of the missing million? And the 230k Kate said Jon took, 180k has to be returned and Kate has to provide an expense report for the missing 50k?

If Jon really only withdrew 22k as he claimed, all he has to do is go to the bank and request a copy of the withdrawal slip of every withdrawal made within the last 2-3 months.

That withdrawal slip will show who signed for it. If they want to dig deeper, just review the security tape of the date and time each withdraw was made.

It's not that complicated.

..............................................

Jon isn't disputing that he took the $180,000 - his story kind of evolved as it went along. Nobody is disputing the $22,000 was taken out in September.

If Kate has hidden any other family assets this will all come out during the divorce and the money will be divided accordingly,

Aunt Chris said...

Khate has no idea how to dress appropriately for any situation. Then again, if all you have are low cut tops... I'm glad Jon wore a suit, but man, he walks like such a hick, doesn't he? Schlump, schlump, schlump...

If Stacey and Clinton went anywhere near Khate I would have a complete breakdown! UGH!!!! She completely wouldn't submit to their rules and what on earth could they do with that hair without shaving the head and starting again?

Charlie Rose said...

So no one won or lost, they both just got chewed out. Kate's statement is ridiculous. Does she REALLY think the public isn't on to her antics??

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What we are seeing played out AGAIN is Kate's lawyer making a "play" on the Judge's ruling today. He didn't specifically say JON has to pay back the $180,000, Kate's attorney said that. Kate and TLC are once again making it look like Jon is the bad guy! So yes Kate's statement is ridiculous and notice AGAIN, how she states how difficult it is for HER but not her children. Give me a break Woman!

jasmine said...

Regarding Kate carrying two purses. Is one purse always a larger one? Maybe she has her laptop and secret financial information, contracts, photos of herself, her lover, extra padding for her bra, etc. in the large purse.

Im_in_PR said...

f8k8 said... No where does it is they will be streaming the bday party. Although I could see how some may "confuse" it if they just ran thru the article quickly.

ET did have 2 posts on that day that claimed they would be streaming live from the twins Bday party. One even had a countdown of Jon's arrival time. Those same posts were referenced in others outlets as well.

However, when the time came and went for the stream to start, those 2 posts were removed.

It could have been just a come on from ET to draw traffic, or it could have been a scenario they believed was going to happen due to their deal with Jon.

But it ended up NOT happening, for what ever reasons. TMZ even noted that their live stream, (from outside the house) was the real stream, in reference to ET removing their posts about the supposed event.

No Drama Mama said...

Jon Gosselin Ordered to Return $180,000
Posted Oct 13th 2009 2:02PM by TMZ Staff

TMZ has learned Jon Gosselin has been ordered to return $180,000 in marital funds, which were removed in violation of an arbitrator's order.

According to Kate's lawyer, Mark Momjian, "The remaining sum of $55,000, which Ms. Gosselin used for household bills and expenses relating to the children, will be subject to further determination by the arbitrator at a later date."

#1)Kate went on national TV and LIED stating that Jon took $230k all the while knowing SHE spent $55k

#2)Re: $55,000 I think this may be school tuition/fees for all 8 or at least the tups.

She Needs Receipts said...

AS Melissa P. Gentry said, Kate isn't off the hook. She has to have receipts for everything and that handwritten kinko's list is not going to cut it. She has some tap dancing of her own to do.

Two Words said...

Jon - the only two words that you need to know from now until your next court hearing are NO COMMENT! Please, don't be stupid enought to open your mouth.

livnluv said...

I actually think they SHOULD go public and account for all their money because I have a terrible suspicion Jon is getting fleeced and that TLC is helping Kate get away with GRAND LARCENY.
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Wouldn't it be nice to hear what's really going on inside the courtroom without TLC, Kate and her lawyers putting a spin on everything.

AZ Mom said...

Kate's next court appearance on Oct 26. Isn't that when she was to be in Long Beach, AZ for the Woman's Confrence? How will she do it without a melt down?

ducttapethattrap said...

Kate says, "As difficult as this has been for me, I am pleased that the Court has ruled fairly on behalf of myself and my children. Now that this matter has been ruled on, I look forward to returning to private arbitration, as we have agreed to do, to resolve any remaining issues"


Why is Kate even giving a statement? Didnt the JUDGE order both J & K to shut the hell up and STOP feeding the media! So Kate has to 'one up' the judge just to get the last word in on the matter.

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