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For The Moment? said...

I am very upset to see that Hailey is cashing in on Jon just like all the others. She has just been waiting in the wings and saving up to hit him at his work. She probably saved all of her text messages too. When Stephanie was showing her text messages all of the talk was coming from her and Jon was just like yes love and so forth. Doesn't any of these women realize he is the kids' only chance for having a happy life? Hailey, I am especially upset about because she used the "a" word whether it be emotional or not. She must have really wanted some money to blow, I guess Jon had to cut her off when he had to pay all the money back. The guy just can't get a break.

Brummygirl said...

So I am first on this thread. Oh, my aloneness no..ish no bounds.
From the root of my heart, somes of us like having aloneness, while others of somes of us are cooking dinner.

Brummygirl said...

Comments from Ted Casablanca on E. re the Women's Conference:

"We were really giving her a hard time about it."

—Pals to Maria Shriver, who hosted Kate Gosselin as an invited guest to her Women's Conference in Long Beach, Calif., this week.

While Shriver's amigas were perfectly gasping in admiration at more lofty babes such as Katie Couric, Madeleine Albright and Elizabeth Edwards, many of these bitchy babes apparently (and completely) refused to bow to Shriver's request that they treat Gosselin, well, not as a bloodsucking, child-whoring reality star. Guess it didn't work!

sueshe said...

Well this soap opera gets more intense as the days and months go on. Poor Jon, everybody wants to spill the beans on him. Now Hailey. But seriously, what is her problem. Ok, she doesn't like what Jon has done to her, but wasn't it just a few weeks back where she was talking about things regarding Kate and supporting Jon.
I actually think Jon is confused, hurt over his divorce, and trying to turn to a secure position in his life and just hasn't been able to find it. Hailey is too young and immature IMO.
The best thing would be to let these two people concentrate on their kids, and attend to their private lives without the media. It is so sad that a documentary led to this mess. I feel for those poor kids, they just don't deserve this!!!
I wonder if the parents are saving the magazines that they have graced, so that years later the kids can bring em out and share them with their kids.....
NOW HOW SAD IS THAT!!!

jibberjabbers said...

Seems like everything is happening in stages. What will happen next? hmm..

✔ Stage 1) Kate ends it with Jon on Oct. 2008
✔ Stage 2) Jon is seen "acting out" because he's lonely
✔ Stage 3) Previous "lovers" do interview and say he's crazy
✔ Stage 4) Previous "lovers" make a claim that he thought about ending it.
✔ Stage 5) TLC makes a name change to get the public use to Minus Jon
✔ Stage 6) TLC and Kate team up and file several lawsuits against Jon making him "depressed" and confused.
✔ Stage 7) Those pretending to be Jon's friend leaves him (Lawyers, Hailey, etc etc.)
Stage 8) Kate and TLC issue a public announcement that Jon is "depressed" and in hiding.
Stage 9) ???????

Jon, Hire a full-time bodyguard now!

KatesBigFlintstoneToe said...

the scoop said...
Celebs have made millions selling stuff to tabloids.
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NOPE! said...
I don't think it's the celebs are making any money off the tabloids. Not at all
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__________________

Who are you "Nope", Kate Gosselin? Of course the celebrities get paid by tabloids: Tom Cruise got paid for Suri's 1st baby pictures! Remember when everyone waited to see Suri? The baby's pictures were finally in People magazine, and they paid Tom Cruise & Katie Holmes millions for the photos! A well known fact.

grannyoftwo said...

Now it is making some sense to me about the Korea trip..... Jon says to Kate..."hey lets go to Korea, and renew our renewed wedding vows there"...and Kate says to Jon..."hey wait a minute we don't have enough money stuffed away yet, lets first say that we are seperated for a year, act like we are getting a divorce, you mess around with anything that walks on two legs and is young, and I will dress like a hooker, then after the public is hooked, we will get back together and go to Korea for our big new season of shows that will rake in lots of viewers and we can have at least two seasons on that alone. These two just kill me and I am finished with them both...goodbye. I have a life to live. This is what they want, us to be involved with their little schemes...No more for me. I am above it!

Bored Beyond Belief said...

Jon & Kate
Kate & Steve
Jon & Deanna
Kate & Meredith
Jon & The Other Kate
Kate & Larry King
Jon & Hailey
Kate & The View
Jon & The Rabbbi
Kate & Ellen
Kate & Natalie

DOES ANYONE REALLY EVEN CARE ANYMORE?

jon&kate&steve&deanna&jon&kate&meredith&jon&theotherkate&larryking&jon&hailey&kate&theview&jon&therabbi&kate&ellen&kate&natalie

No matter how you look at it, 'ain't' nothing' but Dysfunctional Alphabet Soup.

These people are the human equivalent of Ipecac.

We, the viewers, are SO OVER you. Please move on. We have.

Geri said...

I'm gonna watch Kathy Griffin's special on Bravo Tuesday. She hinted on The Insider that she's been hanging with Kate to get material for her act. They cut to a clip where Kathy says Kate has "angry lesbian hair" hehe! I hope she rips her apart!

...Amy... said...

Sorry if this was already discussed...but does anyone know if Nana Janet passed away recently? I read a sheeple blog just to see what they're saying from time to time (I know...I'm crazy for reading it, but if you ever need a great laugh, head on over there sometime...) and there's discussion that Nana Janet passed away this week, and the sheeple hope that Khate will be able to say goodbye to her in private, etc, etc. If it is true, Nana Janet was such a great help to Kon for a while...but I don't think for one second that Khate would go to any of the funeral services-that is, unless Khate's mentioned, of course.

dbags unite! said...

dlisted had a tag showing spiedi dressed up as kon - haha D-bags dressed up as d-bags.

Glenda said...

I think at this point TLC is just using Kate for ratings. Last week with the 'You ask Kate answers' with no new answers. Now this week with 'the interview' that probably again won't tell us anything new. They are desperate for ANYTHING cause the show is ending. Kate is just dumb enough to play along. Can't wait to see what comes the next week for her to do. Sick of all of them.

StevesBallsArePumpkin-Like said...

grannyoftwo said...
Now it is making some sense to me..."hey lets go to Korea, renew our renewed wedding vows there"...Kate says "hey wait a minute we don't have enough money stuffed away yet, lets first say that we are seperated for a year, act like we are getting a divorce, you mess around with anything that walks on two legs, and I'll dress like a hooker, then after the public is hooked, we will get back together and go to Korea for our big new season of shows that will rake in lots of viewers.......
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That is EXACTLY their plan!!! I've been saying it all along. Look at how $ucce$$ful they've been while scamming us?

Heck with the show, they just want money...Divorce will be cancelled soon...watch

kate is a cocky bitch said...

Amy, yes Nana Janet did pass away on 10-28. Someone else posted her obit in another thread.

Laine said...

✔ Stage 1) Kate ends it with Jon on Oct. 2008
✔ Stage 2) Jon is seen "acting out" because he's lonely
✔ Stage 3) Previous "lovers" do interview and say he's crazy
✔ Stage 4) Previous "lovers" make a claim that he thought about ending it.
✔ Stage 5) TLC makes a name change to get the public use to Minus Jon
✔ Stage 6) TLC and Kate team up and file several lawsuits against Jon making him "depressed" and confused.
✔ Stage 7) Those pretending to be Jon's friend leaves him (Lawyers, Hailey, etc etc.)
Stage 8) Kate and TLC issue a public announcement that Jon is "depressed" and in hiding.
Stage 9) ???????

Jon, Hire a full-time bodyguard now!
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My thoughts also. There have been too many comments from Kate, her lawyers, TLC, various 'girlfriends' about Jon's mental status. He's up against powerful people here.

fidosmommy said...

KatesBigFlintstoneToe said...
the scoop said...
Celebs have made millions selling stuff to tabloids.
~~~~~~~~~~~~

NOPE! said...
I don't think it's the celebs are making any money off the tabloids. Not at all
~~~~~~~~~~~~
__________________

Who are you "Nope", Kate Gosselin? Of course the celebrities get paid by tabloids: Tom Cruise got paid for Suri's 1st baby pictures! Remember when everyone waited to see Suri? The baby's pictures were finally in People magazine, and they paid Tom Cruise & Katie Holmes millions for the photos! A well known fact.

*****
I think the Suri Cruise photos are the exception to the rule. The Cruises "auditioned" tabloids to see who would pay the highest amount, and were quite open about it. I think the money went to a charity of the Cruise's choice.

Other celebs - Carol Burnett comes to mind - have sued tabloids and won for printing articles and pictures that were libelous. I doubt Carol Burnett got paid for that except by a court ruling. Lately I have heard a slew of complaints against tabloids from Lisa Niemi, the widow of Patrick Swayze, about how they took pictures, wrote articles, etc.
that announced his death was going to be immediate. I don't think the Swayze household got any cash for those articles.

So, it just depends, is my point.
Sometimes tabloids pay celebrities, other times they don't.

BeatingADeadHorse said...

BrummyGirl said, "So I am first on this thread. Oh, my aloneness no..ish no bounds.
From the root of my heart, somes of us like having aloneness, while others of somes of us are cooking dinner."
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LOL! Thanks for the chuckle.

ATL housewife said...

Not to change the subject, but today IS Halloween . Do the kids get to trick or treat? I don't think I've seen their show related to Halloween. I realize that they live in a remote area. They could go to their old neighborhood tonight. Kate could go as a witch - and she wouldn't have to dress up!

MissysMom said...

About Jon: I believe that people live what they learn until they learn another (or better) way.

What did Hailey expect - Jon wasn't going to come with emotional baggage after 10 years with the venom spitter???

Of COURSE he's going to react in negative ways because that's all he's known! Hailey is obviously too young to realize that.

Hopefully he'll gain some insight into his residual feelings from his previous life and be able to learn that not all people are greedy and grasping and wanting to hurt him in any way they can and other people are Kate.

silimom said...

Kate,
Go home, be a mom for another 13 years IN PRIVATE WITH NO PAID HELP AND THEN come back and try and dispense parenting advice about how to be a divorced mom. I don't consider you a single mom - Jon is still in the picture and apparently not a dead beat as no child support enforcement orders are in place, i.e. attached wages, etc. If there were, I am CERTAIN you'd tell us. In addition you have regularly employed in home child care. Plus a housekeeper (someone FINALLY met you're exacting standards of cleanliness it seems) and a gardener. Probably a personal chef as well, or perhaps the housekeeper does double duty.

Did you ever read the Nanny Diaries? If you're not a reader they did make a movie version. I'd watch it or read it if I were you. And just so there's no confusion, you're the Mom in that book/movie. And someday one of your nannies will have a lot to share, I'm sure.

Minka's tail said...

My predictions:

Stage 9: Kate's diary mysteriously disappears, which is apparently filled with entries about how much she misses having sex with him.

Stage 10:Hailey badmouths him on television

Stage 11 (I predict from here on down); Jon and Hailey break up

Stage 12: Kate's diary shows up on the Internet-the part about the sex, of course.

Stage 13: Jon goes on television and begs Kate to take him back. He admits to some sort of addiction to sex or some substance--more likely booze than drugs.

Stage 14: Kate goes on television and decides she will, but only if they get therapy with Dr. Phil. She admits to a fake fault (like workaholism, or perfectionism), much less in severeness than his sex or booze addiction.

Stage 15: She takes him back for the kids sake--oh, and also a new show, preferably on a broadcast channel.

I didn't quite believe it at first, but I am beginning to believe we are being scammed as well.

Not a fan of either said...

I absolutely NEVER thought I'd feel sorry for Jon, but now I do. He is a sad young man who has never learned how to stand up for himself in the right way. He is influenced by every person he comes in contact with and his mind must be simply reeling. He needs guidance in the worst possible way, but I do not believe he has surrounded himself with the right people. I am concerned for his sanity at this point. Although he contines to make bad decisions, he must feel completely abandoned and alone. I hope Kevin and Jodi stand by him.

Midnight Serenade said...

"I didn't quite believe it at first, but I am beginning to believe we are being scammed as well."

If this is true, then is TLC paying the cost of both parties' multiple attorneys, plus putting themselves at risk for abusing the PA court system?

Midnight Serenade said...

"They could go to their old neighborhood tonight. Kate could go as a witch - and she wouldn't have to dress up!"

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It's too late. Trick or treat night in their old neighborhood was last night.

Midnight Serenade said...

"I'm gonna watch Kathy Griffin's special on Bravo Tuesday. She hinted on The Insider that she's been hanging with Kate to get material for her act. They cut to a clip where Kathy says Kate has "angry lesbian hair" hehe! I hope she rips her apart!"

Kathy Griffin has been known to have a potty mouth. I wonder how all of those F bombs fit into Kate's religious upbringing and spiritual values.

Barbara said...

It is just almost impossible to believe that this could all be a scam. I thought so in the beginning and it may be true. But can you imagine how many people would have to be involved in all that? That many people and no one talking? I just don't think that's possible. But stranger things have happened. The losers of course in all this is the kids. And if the show ends as predicted and Kate's career is in the toilet, she will still be the mother and have all those kids under the control. That is the tragic part of all this.

anotherthing... said...

RE: being scammed

Yes, I believe we are being scammed by these whack-a-doodles. But I'm not sure I buy the 'split is a scam' theory quite yet. I'm just not there.

I am begining to wonder if Jon is being paid by TLC to be the fall guy -to make Kate look good (or at least not as bad). That would frusterate his lawyers enough for them to walk away. It would also explain why he hasnt made any smart moves as far as hiring decent entertainment attys.

So... either way, if those of you who think this is all a giant hoax are right, or if I'm more correct in that this is a 'semi-hoax'... or if it is some varriation, one thing remains: they are knowingly destroying their kids.

Those kids are too small to really understand seperating reality from make believe (and I'm begining to think kate is too) and for them to be put through anything that is even sort of a hoax to this magnitude is absolute agony to think about.

That is why were here, right? The kids? And yes, I do get caught up in mocking Kate (easy target) and zeroing in on her contridictions and inconsistancies (to give a clear example of the complete lack of morals, integrity and to make obvious the easy leap to what she must be like one on one with the kids). But the bottom line is that I do believe we are helping bring awareness to the harm they are bringing to the kids.

So, for those of you that really think this is a hoax, how do you think the kids factor in? Because sadly, I dont think theyve been given a second thought.

goawayJandK said...

jon&kate&steve&deanna&jon&kate&meredith&jon&theotherkate&larryking&jon&hailey&kate&theview&jon&therabbi&kate&ellen&kate&natalie

No matter how you look at it, 'ain't' nothing' but Dysfunctional Alphabet Soup.

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Bored, thanks for a good chuckle !

I can think of a few more letters for the Gosselin Alphabet Sout : STFU !!

nanasez said...

This "it's all a scam" theory seems as ridiculous to me as the belief that man never went to the moon, and the whole thing was shot on a soundstage to impress and scare the Russians. Please.

Anyone really believe that Jon and Kate - who can't figure out how to get kids from the van to a motel room without help from production crew, or how to untangle birthday balloons without accidentally releasing half of them into the wild blue yonder, could cook up such an elaborate ruse spanning over a year's time? I'm supposed to believe that they're such great actors, they were able to convincingly play out all sorts of fake disgust, irritation, anger, and depression that was so evident on the show viewers know something was wrong months before stories broke? That Jon would agree to hurt his children like this and make believe their parents' marriage was over? That they're willing to hand over all the money they're paying in legal fees for a hoax? That Jon truly is in love with the shrew and on board with her to plot some destruction of their squealy clean brand in favor of higher ratings for TLC...when they get no monetary benefit from those higher ratings?

Their show as already the TLC cash cow. All they had to do was get a smart attorney and negotiate a much higher payday per episode. Twenty year olds on other reality shows get paid lots more than $25,000 an episode!

How am I supposed to believe that the people who agreed to $25,000 an episode (split eight ways) are capable of a vast and intricate plan such as this conspiracy theory?

It's just silly, IMO.

Niki said...

Happy Halloween! I wonder if we'll see any Jon and Kate costumes. Apparently they are quite popular.

Wisconsin Mom said...

To take the analogy further, so far today I've had my sick daughter (11 years old) crying in my arms because she's so sick and because she can't have a party here tonight. She's wiping her nose on my shirt, coughing in my face...I've given up trying to keep the house sanitized so that I don't get it--and am just hoping my mom genes will keep me healthy. And, oh yeah, I haven't showered in 4 days and I'm not wearing high heels or designer clothes!

I don't want to see it on TV, but I would love to hear Kate on a talk show, disheveled, describing the above. THEN I would buy her books and listen to her ideas about parenting.

Kate, I can't relate to you. In my situation, you would have a nanny taking care of the kids as you cried crocodile tears.

If I want to watch a show with a celebrity, I have several other choices.

Brummygirl said...

I commented on the hoax theory before, but I think it was too late at night to be posted.
I really do not buy into this. It would take enormous intelligence by both Jon and Kate to pull this off and neither of them are that bright.
The sky would fall on all their heads, including T.L.C. if this were true.
Could you imagine the court systems reaction in wasting their time? Maybe jail time for someone regarding perjury?
I feel that Jon is totally lost at the moment. When he first hit the media, he was like a kid in a candy store, freedom from kate, freedom to at last express his feelings.
Stupid moves to date straight away but I believe all this was his kick at being rid of Kate.
The only thing he did right, was taking the children off t.v.
Whether a scam or not, these children have been hurt by the consequences and even if Jon and Kate did get back together (heaven help us), it would not eradicate the harm which has been done.
No, do not think this is a hoax, the "Untruthful One" in heels could not carry it off, she forgets what she says half the time.
J.M.O. of course!

freeinnc said...

I just saw on Radaronline that Nana Janet passed away this week. So sad she was great with the kids :(

Katie O said...

Nana Janet died on October 28th.

the scoop said...

nanasez said...
This "it's all a scam" theory seems as ridiculous to me...Please.
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You'll think differently when they make the big announcment in a few months: "We're getting back together!"

As for the kids, the kids know nothing. They could have been told Daddys living away for a while, for work. (Remember how we told our kids on Christmas Eve, *Santa's coming tonight*)

Also-Does anyone find it odd that Jon "sleeps above the garage" when he has custody?? That HUGE house & he claims to be sleeping above the garage? WHO's in the house with the kids!? Why isnt he sleeping in the house in a SPARE bedroom???

Midnight Serenade said...

"To take the analogy further, so far today I've had my sick daughter (11 years old) crying in my arms because she's so sick and because she can't have a party here tonight. She's wiping her nose on my shirt, coughing in my face...I've given up trying to keep the house sanitized so that I don't get it--and am just hoping my mom genes will keep me healthy. And, oh yeah, I haven't showered in 4 days and I'm not wearing high heels or designer clothes!"

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Aw. Hope she feels better! We've all had the flu here -- everyone, multiple kids all at the same time. I know the feeling and I commiserate with you! Going from bedroom to bedroom, changing sheets, getting gingerale and/or hot tea with lemon, etc. Sanitizing didn't work, obviously, because we all got it!

Laura said...

I don't agree at all with those who think this whole separation/divorce is a publicity stunt.

It's very obvious that Kate has lived a separate life from Jon for a long time. Jon now hates Kate for the way she treated him, and he is going thru a childish phase because he is now experiencing life a free man.

I'm sure that Kate has been romantically seeing someone for a while now. She suddenly became much too interested in dressing up, looking good, exercising, plastic surgery, for a woman who has no husband/boyfriend/etc. Why would she get a boob job? It just doesn't make sense. She's seeing someone.

redskiesatnight said...

I find it interesting that the individual who allegedly initiated and for quite some time was the one to BLAME for the down fall of the Gosselin marriage and the focus of much tabloid drama has managed to retreat quietly back to a 'normal' life never to be seen or heard from again. That individual, Deanna Hummel.

thehazlettfamily said...

ATL housewife said...

Not to change the subject, but today IS Halloween . Do the kids get to trick or treat? I don't think I've seen their show related to Halloween. I realize that they live in a remote area. They could go to their old neighborhood tonight. Kate could go as a witch - and she wouldn't have to dress up!

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The closest thing we've had was them at a pumpkin patch on a special or in their first season.

ErinKate said...

Ok, let's see: Hailey and Lohan are out of Jon's life, Rabbi is in. It is so hard to keep track of the cast of Jon's reality show within a reality show life. He is not on TV anymore but he is all over the media. Do you think this is the new TLC show? To have Jon all over the internet and the tabloids just not on Jon and Kate Plus 8? Interesting.

LBell said...

Janet Weidenheimer, who helped take care of the Gosselin children and appeared on Jon & Kate Plus 8 several times has passed away, RadarOnline.com has learned.
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So sorry for your loss Weidenheimer family. I am thankful TLC isn't filming because they are so tacky they would film the kids going to the funeral.

Crabby Katie said...

Long time lucker-first time poster.
I have an idea for Kate's new show. This would be a crossover show. Kate could go crab fishing in the Bering Sea. She could: 1) throw the hook in hooker heels; 2) bait the pots and squeal at the ickyishness of it; and 3) take a turn as deck boss and yell HELLOOOOOO, can't you see I need help over here. I think about 15 minutes in there would have to be a call to the Coast Guard for woman overboard.

Charles said...

How could Hailey NOT leave Jon, after all the tears and boo hooing she did on TV.

Jon was there, listening. Mary Hart said to him, (paraphraising) Jon we need to hear from you too, or something like that.

Jon looked kind of embarrassed or sort of strange, kind of like the principal had called him into her office, and I think he too will be on ET on Monday.

How could he and Hailey remain together after her very emotional blah, blah, blah?

It saddens me, because I do have real empathy for Jon, but he cannot be trusted. How in the world could Hailey stick with him now?

He definitely was an abused spouse, and he surely is spinning out of control because of it.

Now, hopefully, he will quit womanizing, spending, drinking, and running around. Hopefully, his new Jewish religion (?) will give him some direction.

But it has gone way too far to be a scam. Jon absolutely is suffereing PTSD and needs to come down from that.

I surely wish he would get a valid lawyer and find his way once again.

All of this could not be a scam. The emotions all parties are demonstrating are much too real.

etownmom2 said...

ATL housewife said...
Not to change the subject, but today IS Halloween . Do the kids get to trick or treat? I don't think I've seen their show related to Halloween. I realize that they live in a remote area. They could go to their old neighborhood tonight. Kate could go as a witch - and she wouldn't have to dress up!


Etown Mom Said - Sorry no they can't. Halloween was celebrated last night (Friday) in Elizabethtown and the Gosselins weren't here, they weren't here trick or treating last year either but they were the year before that in a mix of costumes - they were cute. I did think of the eight and how sad it is that they don't seem to be able to enjoy the simple things in life (real memories) as the 100 children or so we had at our door were just adorable and having a blast! . . . .and for the record and for inquiring minds . . . . parents dress up in this neighborhood as well and there wasn't a single Gosselin wig. Just a multitude of little fairy princesses and ghouls.

Kate is Cold Hearted said...

Nana Janet passes away

She was so kind, caring and generous to Ms. Katie Irene.

Katie Irene is cold and uncaring in return.

Let's not forget the time Nana Janet was having fun on the donkey and all Kate could say is don't get hurt I need you to babysit my kids.

Nana Janet so generously took care of the Gosselin 8 not for fame but out of the kindness of her heart. THEN, just like all the others CUT OFF.

I wonder in her last days if she would have loved to see the kids.

It's really not right how Katie Irene bullies people and uses her kids against them.

She says that Jon stopping the show has ended a lot of opportunities for the kids.

Katie Irene cutting off all family and friends from their old life has taken meaningfulness from their lives.

There is more to life than money. There are things money can't buy.

I miss all the old people, Nana Janet, Beth, Aunt Jodi and all the countless others who were cut off because of the GREED of Katie Irene.

Katie Irene has done the most damage to the Gosselin 8 lives because she has cut them off from society. Just because no one likes to be around Kate that isn't paid, the children should not have to be alone too.

rural mom said...

I think Jon and his PR team are building Kate up to tear her down. The more they apologize and say nice things publically about her the more Kate's fans will freak. They only like Kate because they think Jon made her life miserable. They think he cheated on her and left her without money. Jon and Kate are not reconciling. It is just an earnings game right now, the most popular one wins.

Kate Stop The Lies said...

I just do not see kate as a single mom as she likes to call herself. When I think of single parents I think of the ones that have kids but the other parents is no where around to help. Jon is there all the time and does not miss a custody (I think it is silly to call it that) week! Just wondered if anyone else felt this way.

readerlady said...

"Why isn't he sleeping in the house in a SPARE bedroom?"

There isn't a spare bedroom. The house is listed as having 5 BRs. One for the boys, one for Leah and Alexis, one for Cara and Mady, one private room for favored child Hannah, and Khate's padlocked BR. I suppose Jon could sleep on a couch if there is one, but the garage apartment is probably much more comfortable. And if there's a full-time nanny, she would be in the house. But where is her room? Does Khate make the nanny sleep in the basement in what used to be the dogs' area?

So sorry to hear about Nana Janet. I'm not so sure that Khate is sorry, but I imagine Jon is devastated. She took care of him when he was a child, and they seemed to have a close bond.

Moira the first said...

It was Nana Joan who took care of Jon when he was a child. Janet is the one who was stuck with the ironing and who Kate made fun of riding the pony.

Witch of Wernersville said...

Brummygirl said, "So I am first on this thread. Oh, my aloneness no..ish no bounds.
From the root of my heart, somes of us like having aloneness, while others of somes of us are cooking dinner."
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THIS from America's next talk show host?

And we wonder why the tups' language skills are delayed.

Sharla said...

Friendly reminder time: the topic is the Gosselins not Halloween customs or timing. Thanks. :)

she is evil said...

I don't think jon and kate are smart or sophisticated enough to pull off a hoax. They are very concrete people. Think of kate stupidly blabbing about bring unable to feed the kids. Not the truth, and began the backlash against her.

Also, no true affection was apparent between those two past season 2. And season 4 was just painful to watch. Kate's ego and man bashing were out if control.

Regarding her makeover, I think it started with the tummy tuck but went into overdrive when jon was caught with deanna and the paps went crazy. Instead of hiding, Kate went out and got a tan, new wardrobe, sunglasses and more plastic surgery. I think she is loving all this attention even though it's negative.

Oh, and the kids? No ones paying attention to them except to use as pawns. They are merely a source of income and a means to be in magazines and on tv to their parents

BoredBeyondBelief said...

Go Away J&K said, "I can think of a few more letters for the Gosselin Alphabet Sout : STFU !!"
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EXCELLENT!!

}}And thanks for the compliment!{{

readerlady said...

Thanks for correcting me, Moira the first. I always got the two mixed up as far as who did what, but I do remember that Nana Janet is the one on the pony. I'm glad she had the opportunity to reconnect with the kids before she passed. God Rest, Nana Janet.

Am I the only one who thinks that Jon may be in a twelve step program of some kind? All this recent talk about making amends and public apologies makes me wonder. Or am I totally off base?

Tiffany said...

Readerlady said..
There isn't a spare bedroom. The house is listed as having 5 BRs. One for the boys, one for Leah and Alexis, one for Cara and Mady, one private room for favored child Hannah, and Khate's padlocked BR.
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Wasn't it Alexis (or really Jon) who was alone in the basement of the last house? I can't remember that lame excuse. How did they publicly justify Hannah getting her own room this time around?

Tiffany said...

I really hope with Nana Janet's passing being on ROL that the paps and other crazies don't harass that poor woman's family at her funeral looking to get a shot of J&K in attendance. I can almost see Jon showing up, really doubt K8 would. RIP Janet.

Kathryn said...

Not for a minute did I ever believe the Gosselin's were smart enough to carry off a hoax....UNTIL I heard the voice recordings of the Heene parents pleading with the 911 operators to help their son. OMG, they were GOOD!!!
My point is that you don't have to be very bright to TRY to carry off a hoax. But you DO have to be pretty damn smart to carry it out from beginning to end.
Do I think the Gosselin's would try such a stunt? You betcha!! Do I think they'll fool the American public? You betcha!!! For about 5 minutes

ihatefrogs said...

Am I the only one who thinks that Jon may be in a twelve step program of some kind? All this recent talk about making amends and public apologies makes me wonder. Or am I totally off base?

I also think that Jon may be in a 12 step program. His recent claims of making amends to those he has hurt, the acceptance that his father was a drinker and his desire to 'break the cycle', and his more recent dedication to a 'SPIRITUAL' self awareness were my clues. However, his intentions are coming across more as an 'entertainment ' ploy rather than a true desire for personal growth.

Huh said...

the scoop said...
"Also-Does anyone find it odd that Jon "sleeps above the garage" when he has custody?? That HUGE house & he claims to be sleeping above the garage? WHO's in the house with the kids!? Why isnt he sleeping in the house in a SPARE bedroom???"

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There are only 5 bedrooms in the new house, just one more bedroom than the old one had. I always found it very odd that they got a new house with so many living and dining rooms, but so few bedrooms for such a large family. But I guess it was a house more to Kate's liking than the kids' needs.

...Amy... said...

Thanks to those who confirmed my question about Nana Janet...I tried to find that info in other posts, but didn't have time to run through hundreds of posts. That's so sad to hear that she passed away...I wonder when the kids last saw her, or if the 'tups even will remember her?

Midnight Serenade said...

"There isn't a spare bedroom. The house is listed as having 5 BRs. One for the boys, one for Leah and Alexis, one for Cara and Mady, one private room for favored child Hannah, and Khate's padlocked BR."

Yes, there is. Where do you think the nanny sleeps? The downstairs is set up as a bedroom/bedrooms. In real estate listings, in order for a bedroom to be "qualified" as a bedroom, it must have a window and not be located in the basement. Therefore, basement "bedrooms" exist, but cannot be advertised as such in the listings. In fact, a basement, even if it's finished, is not counted in the total square footage of a house. That's the way it is in PA -- I'm not sure how what the real estate practices are in other states.

the scoop said...

RE: Why Jon sleeps in the garage apartment during his custody-time:

Readerlady said..
There isn't a spare bedroom. The house is listed as having 5 BRs. One for the boys, one for Leah and Alexis, one for Cara & Mady, one private room for favored child Hannah, and Khate's padlocked BR.
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Tiffany said...
Wasn't it Alexis (or really Jon) who was alone in the basement of the last house? I can't remember that lame excuse.
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This bugs me. I would want my children left with their Dad in the house at night, Not a Nanny!
True, Jon slept in the basement with Alexis at the old house. Why couldnt he find SOMEPLACE to sleep in the new house!?

Oh wait! I forgot--Kate is still in the house!!! She never left!

;o)

readerlady said...

@ Midnight Serenade

Thanks for the info on real estate listings/etc. for PA. I'm not sure what the requirements are for bedrooms here, but I do know that basement bedrooms can be listed, because I've seen them in real estate ads.

Re when Nana Janet last saw the kids - there was a picture of her at the house this summer, and isn't Nana Janet the one who watched the kids while Jon took Alexis (?) to the doctor after she bit through her lip?

carolann said...

I doubt Jon is in a 12 step program. He's just repeating insights about himself that others have told him. He believes what his therapist says, then he listens to Hailey, then he listens to Lohan, then he listens to Hailey again, then he listens to the Hellers, and now he's moved on to the Rabbi. Jon could benefit from a 12 step program. He needs to gain insight on his own and stop relying on others to tell him what is right or wrong. As long as he keeps seeing life from the standpoint of money and fame and "the court of public opinion" he will never see into his own heart. He is a hollow person. That's why people get sick of him and abandon him. He just takes and has nothing to give back. I hate to quote Hailey but vampire that sucks the life out of you is pretty accurate. Personally I prefer to call people like Jon leeches. It's less dramatic.

jasmine said...

Does anyone know for sure if there really is an apartment above the garage? It does seem odd that Jon sleeps above the garage when it is his parenting time. I could understand him doing so before the divorce announcement and to hide from Kate. But why isn't he sleeping in the house with the children when Kate is gone? Didn't they both claim there is no live in nanny? The garage isn't even attached to the house. I can't believe their children would have to put shoes on and a coat, disable the security system, unlock the front door, run outside to the garage (and what if it's raining or snowing), bang on and open the garage apartment door and go up the stairs to the apartment to find Jon if they woke up from a bad dream. Someone must be sleeping in their finished walkout basement (probably with a bedroom and bathroom).

Jess said...

Rest in Peace Nana Janet
:(

WhoDidWhatFirst said...

ErinKate said...
Ok, let's see: Hailey and Lohan are out of Jon's life, Rabbi is in. It is so hard to keep track of the cast of Jon's reality show within a reality show life. He is not on TV anymore but he is all over the media. Do you think this is the new TLC show? To have Jon all over the internet and the tabloids just not on Jon and Kate Plus 8? Interesting.
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Now, let's see - Jon has embraced catholicism, then he was an evangeical christian, then a Jew. I am fully expecting him to hook up with Tom Cruise at the Scientology church. He is almost as screwed up as Kate - well not quite but almost.

TooSadToWatch said...

To those of you who are claiming hoax and conspiracy (sincere question here): Do you really think two people (parents) could put their child through such horrific ramifications that this has caused? I know balloon boy's dad had him hide for a few hours, but months and months of lies about their parents relationship? Letting your child believe their Dad is having another relationship for money? I do not think either of the parents are making wise decisions, but I don't believe they are inherently evil enough to subject their children to a year long lie, either.

If you're right, here's hoping to a quick lock up for mental abuse inflicted on those precious children.

mommadiane5 said...

Didn't Kate say last mon. night, that she has to have the extra help...nanny because it wouldn't be safe for just her with 8 kids? That was her excuse, I think, for having nanny help. And, I bet, that when Kate has custody and is out of town....that the nanny is there alone and Kate thinks she is just fine with 8 kids.

I also, think that Jon may have sought help from a 12 step program. I hope he did. I worry about him, too.

I think, Rabbi Schmuley is kind of a disgrace to his religion and profession. I haven't liked him since he thought it was ok to publish Michael Jackson's private sessions. I wish Jon would get better reps and counceling. Because Rabbi Schmuley getting involved makes me worry that maybe, it is all a scam. And, if it is we should all shun J&K

nanasez said...

You'll think differently when they make the big announcment in a few months: "We're getting back together!"
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No, I won't. For one, people DO get back together. People even remarry after divorcing. Sometimes it happens. Do I expect Jon and Kate to get back together? Not anytime soon. Given Kate's lack of introspection and resistance to change, I doubt it would ever happen. But if they both woke up, decided to fix their marriage, and were able to give their children their family back, it would be a good thing.

As for the children knowing nothing, that would be impossible. They aren't isolated from society. They go to school with people who watch their show. Their parents are on tabloids all the time. They go to the store. The twins can read. They certainly are aware that mom and dad never stay in the house together. Of course the children would know, when the whole world knows.

TooSadToWatch said...

This might be my newest favorite writer. :)

Kate Gosselin's spin-o-rama: Too much to bear

I surrender. An hour of trying to follow the twists and turns of Kate Gosselin's narcissism is just too much for me. It is astonishing how she can take almost any question and arrive at a variation of the same answer: "I did it for my kids."

The hour of Kate Gosselin answering questions allegedly written by fans started with the dogs Monday night, and my head absolutely exploded four minutes into the session when she said at first that she got rid of the dogs for the sake of the dogs. And then, she said she got rid of the dogs for the sake of the kids.

And she showed no awareness whatsoever that she just gave two different answers without taking a breath. This may be more than narcissism. This might be pathology. But she's the so-called medical expert, not me. As a critic, all I can do is ask you to notice how she set up a false forced choice, and tried to make herself the Great High Selfless Mother for getting rid of the dogs.

Baltimore Sun

NoUse4Kate said...

readerlady said..

one private room for favored child Hannah,

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How do you know that? I don't watch the show anymore so perhaps it was mentioned in an episode.

melidere1812 said...

I am sending up prayers for Nana Janet's family and friends tonight. I know the kids had great affection for her and it was obvious how much she loved them. God bless her.

Tiffney said...

Kate Stop The Lies said...
I just do not see kate as a single mom as she likes to call herself. When I think of single parents I think of the ones that have kids but the other parents is no where around to help. Jon is there all the time and does not miss a custody (I think it is silly to call it that) week! Just wondered if anyone else felt this way.

10/31/2009 12:39 PM

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I have to agree with you here. I've never commented before but have been following a bit. I find it amusing and insulting when I hear Kate say she is a single mom. I've been a single mom of 5 children for the past 16 years, I am also a nurse. The similarities end there. I've worked one, two and sometimes three jobs to take care of and raise my five children alone without the assistance of child support, visitation by my ex, hired help or free food, trips etc.
IMO Kate has no concept of what being a single mother is. Many mothers have walked in the same footsteps as I have and my hat is off to all of them. It can be done but it isn't easy. 16 years later I have put 3 through college and have two children still at home with me. All 5 are loving, happy and productive members of society. And gee.... look no film crews.

I agree with you completely!

SaNdY said...

dmsr said:
I do think that perhaps J & K deserve one another but no way, no how do the children deserve to have such disgusting parents.
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I agree with your entire post, dmsr, but especially that last line above...so true....

Exhausted said...

When we talk about the living arrangements at the Home that Greed Built, I don't think any of us can begin to know how lonely these kids must feel. I remember going to bed as a child and feeling comforted by hearing my parents talking downstairs or even just hearing them watch TV or do chores and so on. I can't imagine the complete opposite...the total lack of security these kids must feel when there's a flavor-of-the-week babysitter tucking them in to bed or a halfhearted father who's over the garage or a cruel, selfish mother who hasn't been up to her twins' room in months.

They really get nothing from these cold parents, and even the better of the parents (Jon) is still lacking so much of the selflessness and empathy and consideration you need to have as a parent. I hope they are all loving to one another and that they stick together, because they get zippo from these hopeless failures as parents.

We can talk until we're blue in the face, but Jon and Kate just don't get it. We try to be logical and astute, but we would have had an easier time explaining physics to Anna Nicole Smith. Jon and Kate were just never in it for these kids. They have never cherished or enjoyed these kids, and they ultimately don't care if the kids feel loved and safe or not. You can't teach a pig to sing, and sadly these kids will just have a long history of being disappointed by cold parents.

I noticed in one clip I saw of Jon picking the twins up from the school bus that he just let them trail behind him as they walked to the car as the paparazzi hovered and snapped all these pictures. As a father, I can't believe his instinct wasn't to protect his oldest two and stand behind them to keep them safe. And no need for a Kate example because she is just so clearly vile.

It's all just so sad that all this fortune was wasted on two fools. Sad sad sad...

tuesday said...

Hey exhausted, maybe some of the wasted millions could have been put into helping homeless veterans? (jk, like THAT would ever happen!)

silimom said...

Why isnt he sleeping in the house in a SPARE bedroom???

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Because, if memory serves, it's actually is a five bedroom house. There's the master (Kate's room) and then if memory serves, Hannah (I think it was Hannah) got a room to herself because of the migraines, Cara and Mady share a room, Alexis and Leah share a room and the boys all share a room.

I remember thinking at the time, wasn't the point of moving to a larger home was because Cara and Mady were getting older and J&K wanted them each to have their own room? And then they go and have them sharing a room AGAIN. And honestly, if Hannah (or whichever girl's) headaches are so bad it's interfering with her ability to function normally, then I really hope they've gotten that looked at.

MomOf4InPA said...

I think in the episode where they moved into the new house, or the one where Kate "cleaned the filthy fridge" for hours on end, they mentioned that Hannah has migraines, and needed her own room.

I am sure there are bedrooms in the basement, because there is a little kitchen (well, counters, cabinets, full sized fridge, I didnt see a stove tho) set up down there as well as a full bath.

There could also be other rooms on the main living floors that are being used as bedroom, altho they are not listed as bedrooms. To be listed as a bedroom, it needs to have a closet space.

Condolences from my family to Janet's family.

Robin said...

Duh, I finally got it.........
Khate wants to be Lady GaGa

PAPPA, PAPPARAZZI DON'T YOU LOVE ME

readerlady said...

@ NoUse4Kate

The last episode I watched, which was when they moved to the mansion, Khate said Hannah was getting her own room "because she has migraines".

Hush said...

I am appalled that Jon has no loving advisors to tell him to STFU!

He finds himself in train wreck after train wreck.

It's so simple, she is selfdestructing and if Jon would just keep his mouth and zipper "duct taped" he would appear like a proper person. It's clear he doesn't have a brain in his head regarding appropriate choices. And I've always been on Team Jon.

We need to start a STFU web site for Jon!

Vanessa said...

I agree with all who've posted about Khate's droning on and on about being a "single" mother. How can she NOT put her own spin on her now recent status? From the beginning she's played the "whoa is me" card. Let's go back to when she was just a "mother". Did any of you have a staff of volunteers come and cook, clean, feed your baby/babies, wash/fold/put away your laundry? Did you have companies offer free supplies/food/clothing/diapers/formula etc.? Let's put it into perspective. When someone we know has a baby, we DO bring them gifts, we DO bring them food, we DO help out,,, I'm sure we've all been on the receiving end of such generosity. So Khate had SIX babies at once...the generosity people/family/companies showed was OVER AND ABOVE what was necessary.
She got all that stuff because she/they went out seeking it!
You don't just get fired from your job if you get caught surfing on-line just once. It had to have been going on for a long time.
It was NEVER enough! She played her "but I'm a mom of 8" role because it worked in her favour. Now it's the "but I'm a single mom of 8" role she's taken on and there has to be some trade off for her. It's obviously keeping her in the limelight, people are still talking about her, the sheeple are still fawning and telling her how wonderful she is. AND it's still making her RICH$$$

For The Moment? said...

RE: JK hoax/getting back together.

I don't believe there is a "hoax," they are just not savvy enough to pull that off, and if that were the case they would lose the kids because you can see that they are suffering. I think maybe TLC encouraged all the drama a bit because they really thought Kate as a single mom would be more bankable. They just didn't bank on fame making her so unabearable to watch.

But I can see them getting back together, because they are burning all their bridges behind them (including Jon) and when all the money is gone they will only have each other, and will have to get back together for the literal survival of the kids. Kate is incapable of taking care of those kids by herself. I doubt she has ever put them to bed herself or gotten them up and dressed.

But Kate has an ace in her sleeve--she works out EVERY day for a reason--if she gets desperate enough she will do the Playboy, tastefully, "for the children." After all she exposes herself evey day. That skirt she wore on Ellen during the women's conference was painfully and unfashionably short. It looked like it had been made longer and chopped off.

Jon will be the biggest loser, because he is so lost he doesn't know how to act or what to do or who to trust. Just write the book Jon and tell the truth and stick tight with your kids and relatives.

For The Moment? said...

Laura...I agree about the dressing up and looking good all of a sudden. She has been seeing someone ever since she came home and told Jon it was over, more than a year ago. But I agree w/ others that we might be surprised when we find out her preference. She is so coy when someone mentions her dating, oh like that could never happen...she dresses for a date everytime she goes out the door.

ManicNarcissism said...

NoUse4Kate said...

readerlady said..

one private room for favored child Hannah,

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How do you know that? I don't watch the show anymore so perhaps it was mentioned in an episode.

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Yes, it was mentioned in one of the first episodes where they were in the new house. Kate said that Hannah had migraines and the girls were waking her up so she got a room all to herself. Funny how Alexis was okay to stay in the same room with Leah even though in the old house she disturbed them so much that she slept in the basement.

Migraines or no migraines that bedroom arrangement is just asking for trouble in the sibling rivalry department as they grow up.

ManicNarcissism said...

One thing that no one is considering when talking about the conspiracy theory or hoax is that maybe it wasn't planned. Maybe and I don't even think I believe this yet but just throwing it out there. Maybe they didn't plan it from the beginning. Maybe Kate was over Jon last October but thought he would live a facade for the sake of money and the kids. Many people stay together for the kids and it is obvious there is no love. Also some people have open marriages and maybe that was what she was looking for. Jon said no way and was crushed, he then started acting out, going out, etc. All that being real. He sincerely thinks that the show is ruining his life so by the end of taping season 4 he wants out.

I don't believe he had a thing with DeAnna Hummel, I think they were friends and he had no clue about the paps. That is why we have never heard from her again. The brother was just out to make a quick buck.

Okay, then it starts getting out of control by Memorial Day weekend when spotted with Hailey and her mom. I DO NOT buy the lie that he ran to the glassmans so he would have somewhere to stay. We already know that late January through Valentines day that Jon was staying with his mom. He has brothers. Why would he not go to one of them? I don't have answers here but something is fishy.

I do not believe that they are smart enough to pull off this huge hoax from the beginning. But, I can see them being opportunist enough to realize that a reconciliation might be the only way to keep the money coming in and might be able to pull that off in the near future. It wouldn't be sincere just a business arrangement to make a few more million before oblivion. Maybe that is Kate's back up plan. At this point I believe Jon is a sincere, loving, bumbling idiot. Kate is a shrewd, smart, common sense intelligent (not book smart) but 100 light years smarter than Jon, but a real uncaring, selfish, biotch.

winsomeone said...

How can Kate be a single mother, when she is still married to Jon? She is a married mother of eight.

lifeoriley said...

Re: the single mom issue
How can the media refer to Kate as a "single" mom and in the same breath refer to Jon as a "married" man?
In what sense is Kate single, then? If she is considered still married AND Jon has 50% custody, she may considered a "soon-to-be divorced(?) woman who also happens to be a mother.
A single parent, IMO, is one that does not have help (financially or custodially) from the other parent in raising their children; otherwise, one is a divorced woman/man who also happens to be a parent. I'm not saying who has it "harder"--sometimes staying with a toxic spouse is worse for the children involved than a divorce would be. It depends on individual situations.
My point is, Kate cannot be considered "single" in any sense of the word if Jon is still considered to be "married."

Mai said...

"TooSadToWatch said...

To those of you who are claiming hoax and conspiracy (sincere question here): Do you really think two people (parents) could put their child through such horrific ramifications that this has caused? ...Letting your child believe their Dad is having another relationship for money? ...I don't believe they are inherently evil enough to subject their children to a year long lie, either."

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I don't think it's a matter of "evil", but rather a mixture of greed, selfishness and ignorance. I don't believe either or both of them are smart enough to have orchestrated such a complex hoax, but I do believe they would participate in one for fame and money.

That said, I don't believe the split is a hoax, only that Jon and Kate have done their best to milk as much publicity out of it as possible. I believe much of their shenanigans is loosely scripted, like their show. I think Kate became drunk with fame, to wit, her delusional belief that she actually has a shot at a career in mainstream entertainment. I think that's why all the cosmetic surgeries and wardrobe makeover, and I think her ambition is also what prompted her to dump Jon. I believe she decided that an inarticulate, pudgy, balding half-asian husband would be a liability to her ambitions.

ATL housewife said...

Thanks for the info. etownmom2. I just hope that somebody took the Gosselin children trick-or-treating in costumes somewhere. I also hope that they got big bags full of candy- sending Kate into the stratosphere of anxiety of "only one piece". Maybe Jon took them last night, and he went as a gigolo. That way he wouldn't have to dress up.

can't stand her said...

This is completely random, but I watched the Utah trip episodes on YouTube today. Lazy Sunday morning.

I found Kate's "altitude sickness" awfully convenient. She may not have felt well (hungover I suspect), but she still could have helped get the kids ready for the snow. To lay there and watch your husband and friends dress your own kids? What a lazy wench she is

Jon did a lot of eye rolling during the interviews and I cannot blame him. Despite doing almost nothing with the kids, Kate still wanted to narrate all that they had done. Her narrations are ridiculous... Describing the cold wind and how she told herself she must keep walking to save her cold child. Huh? It's cold, you're on a snowy mountain in a parka, no one's dying here. Jon rolled his eyes and said "She's a wuss". Yeah, that and a bunch of other things.

The kids sure seemed unhappy a lot of the time..usually because their parents had deserted them to snowboard/go to the spa/ have a romantic dinner. Imagine being so young and in a strange place and having your parents bail repeatedly. Kate didn't have to ski but she could have lugged her lazy ass out there for moral support. And how did she grow up in PA and never learn to ice skate, even on a rudimentary level? Any excuse to let someone else
care for the kids. And for such an authority on organization, Kate sure can't seem to get it together enough to keep her kids well fed. With 8 kids, couldn't she keep granola bars or some other portable snack on hand at all times? Couldn't imagine why those kids were melting down because they were starving right before their ski lesson. It's not rocket science to keep a kid from getting that hungry.

I think Beth may have been the one to end the relationship with Kate. She is too classy to say anything negative about her, but must have felt used by Kate on this trip. Beth was supposed to be there to HELP, not be the mommy, the kid bather, the laundress, the ice skating instructor, etc. Can't-do Kate is an absentee mother even though she's standing right next to her kids

goawayJandK said...

TooSadToWatch:

The Baltimore Sun's David Z is fantastic, witty, smart as hell and has K8's number. I just discovered his blog a couple months ago.

Currently, he is investigating the obvious behind-the-scenes connections between NBC and TLC ( the Natalie Morales interview tomorrow). He is definitely on to something because NBC has ignored his requests for information for almost a week now.

ihatefrogstoo said...

Just my opinion but I think one reason that they don't show the children's room is that the three tup girls are and have always been sharing a room. The third bedroom in that area is for the live-in nanny or nannies. Kate lied to keep people from asking and thinking about that room.

KatesBigFlintstoneToe said...

ihatefrogstoo said...
...I think one reason that they don't show the children's room is that the three tup girls are and have always been sharing a room. The third bedroom in that area is for the live-in nanny or nannies. Kate lied to keep people from asking and thinking about that room.
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Yes, just like they lied about Alexis sleeping in the basement of the old house ALONE. (We found out later that Jon slept down there too, for 2 years)

I'm a Mom of 2 & I cannot imagine leaving my child to sleep in my basement alone! Kate's old house had an unfinished section that had a door & windows!! Someone could have watched the show & broken in!!!!!

LIES,LIES,LIES

Falling away... said...

Bravo to "Cant't stand her said.." re her comments on Utah trip. So true!

she is evil said...

Mai, I agree with you. Dont think Jon and Kate could have orchestrated a hoax but are willing participants in the madness that has ensued in the wake of their split. Jon being photographed with Deanna should have been humiliating for Kate, if she cared about her marriage. But I believe that she had already dumped Jon because she truly felt she didn't need him anymore. The crazy bitch really thought she alone was the reason why people watched their show. Figured she could afford to pay someone to care for her kids now and could do the show alone and keep all the m eybfor herself. So Jon is caught with another woman, friend or lover, who knows, but all Kate sees is an opportunity to become tabloid fodder a la britney/Lindsay/Paris. instead of hiding out, she seeks the paparazzi and for the first time we see Kate dolled up in slutty outfits and sunglasses running all kinds of unnecessary errands. What a tool she is. She's loving the attention even though the world hates her

Falling away... said...

If Jon misses the dogs so much..Why didn't he stay living over the garage, temporarily of course. Kate could live in the house and this way the dogs would be cared for by Jon and the kids would always have one parent there? If these two bozos would only be reasonable things could have worked out much better. They could both have seen the children more often, something they both said they wanted to do. Unless of course, they were lying?

Brummygirl said...

Robin said...
Duh, I finally got it.........
Khate wants to be Lady GaGa
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More like Gag!!!
As they once said about Fred Astaire..."Can't Sing, Can't Dance and Can't act". The difference is she will never be the star she thinks she is, or he was!!

They'll Buy Anything said...

LifeORiley said, "Re: the single mom issue How can the media refer to Kate as a "single" mom and in the same breath refer to Jon as a "married" man?..."
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EXCELLENT point, Riley!

Major lapse in logic going on here with the whole she's single and alone/he's married and cheating PR.

Sadly, apparently it appeals/sells to those who have been left or are afraid of being left to play the 'poor, abandoned, alone, mom' card.

Adding to that, the implication that she is still 'married' even though hasn't lived as man/wife in quite awhile now, seems to strike a chord with the conservative religious folk. THAT is the rationale behind Kate continuing to call attention to her refusal to remove her wedding ring. It earns points with some viewers via its implied message that 'marriage is sacred and forever'.

JMO, though one may remain LEGALLY married until the divorce gavel drops, many of us believe once the commitment is gone (i.e., no longer living together as married), the marriage is over.

Kate and TLC obviously like to play both sides of the fence on this issue.

Whatever sells. This is Kate/TLC's obvious motto.

For The Moment? said...

I am thinking that the rabbi who suggested Hailey was not good for him might be the catalyst that will ultimately smooth the way for them to "get back together." But it is too little too late because no way the show can go on now. We have just seen too much emotional damage done to the kids and they are not fun anymore. The tup girls act like ladies when they are w/ Kate instead of kids. Either way, they have all done themselves in seeking fame and fortune. I cannot see those kids ever being on TV again in that type of format. I really hate that because it used to be my all time favorite TV show, but never again.

For The Moment? said...

Now that you mention it seems like after that Utah trip is when Kate really started to let her true colors show. Maybe that was the beginning of her relationship with Steve or whoever or whatever or maybe even whenever.

As far as Kate taking care of those kids by herself, there is no way that she could possibly do it. She is too lazy, always exhausted..from what?..Jon did all the work when he was there.

TLC made Kate believe that she could do it by herself, by giving her so much help, paving the way for her to get of rid Jon so they could have a new story line and maybe insert Steve.

I suspect the kids meltdown so badly, maybe not so much because they are hungry, but thirsty.

I have never seen them go to the refrigerator, ever, which I cannot imagine not being able to get a drink when you need it instead of on a timetable.

fidosmommy said...

can't stand her said.....
I think Beth may have been the one to end the relationship with Kate. She is too classy to say anything negative about her, but must have felt used by Kate on this trip. Beth was supposed to be there to HELP, not be the mommy, the kid bather, the laundress, the ice skating instructor, etc. Can't-do Kate is an absentee mother even though she's standing right next to her kids


*****

Your entire post is superb. Thank you for sharing your "random" thoughts.

The above portion of it leads me to ask if Carla is still on the scene or not. Ashley would be back in school, of course. Kate let Carla do so much of the work, too.

IMO, if you want to talk about pulling off a hoax, I would have to say that Kate as a Mom is a big one. She's a mother, yes, because
that's the word the English language uses to describe a person who has given birth or has adopted/fostered. But Mom is a title that is earned. Kate's claim to the word seems to have stopped in the delivery room. All the rest of her "mothering" is a poorly veiled hoax, IMO.

fidosmommy said...

I believe she decided that an inarticulate, pudgy, balding half-asian husband would be a liability to her ambitions.


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I had to laugh. Isn't that essentially what the networks said to Lucy about Desi? It will never work, honey, dump him, we'll find you a more suitable "husband" for the show.

So, in about 50 years, people will be watching reruns of the greatest show on television, Jon and Kate Plus 8, and commenting that they just don't make stuff like this anymore! It's revolutionary TV!

(snark)

Sidney said...

Hailey said people really are mean to her every where she goes. She said people call her names, like "home-wrecker" and worse.

I believe her. If that is true, do they always call Jon and Kate names?

Or are the people who are so mean to Hailey those people who idolize Kate?

If so, they probably throw kisses to Kate and greet her with love and admiration.

Of course, some fans are dangerous, so I do believe that is what Kate needs to be protected from -- those crazy fans.

I can't imagine why Hailey would ever be seen in public with Jon after the first time she was heckled.

It is good for her that they are now "no longer" together. But I can't imagine Hailey will no longer be jeered at. I think she will be for a long time.

But who will Jon now use for his emotional support? I guess the Jewish guy -- what's his name.

But Jon can't get the love that he really seems to need without a woman in his life. This is going to be interesting.

Charles said...

Laura...I agree about the dressing up and looking good all of a sudden. She has been seeing someone ever since she came home and told Jon it was over, more than a year ago. But I agree w/ others that we might be surprised when we find out her preference. She is so coy when someone mentions her dating, oh like that could never happen...she dresses for a date everytime she goes out the door.

11/01/2009 2:41 AM
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Possibly. However, she is her own biggest fan. She thinks she is the most witty, talented, funny and attractive person around.

She dresses for herself as much as for ther adoring fans.

She peers into mirrors and reflections and tells herself she is quite famous and beautiful, brilliant and fashionable.

She doesn't really need an audience, but she does it all "for her kids."

Carrin said...

Jon and Rabbi Shumley are BOTH exploiting the Gosselins, wouldn't you say?

$25.00 to sit and listen to these two?

I am, frankly, very disappointed in the Rabbi. I thought he was much more admirable than this.

UGH to all things Gosselin.


http://www.jewishvaluesnetwork.org/events.php

RechingInTheLaundryRoom said...

Can'tStandHer said, "...I found Kate's "altitude sickness" awfully convenient..."
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I believe a more honest descriptor for Kate's behavior on the Utah (and every other) episode would've been ATTITUDE Sickness.

I know there's a shortage of H1N1 virus vaccinations. Is there anything that will protect us from continued exposure to Kate Gosselin? She's making us all sick.

bbeau said...

Yes, it was mentioned in one of the first episodes where they were in the new house. Kate said that Hannah had migraines and the girls were waking her up so she got a room all to herself.

________________

Hannah has migraines? She would have been 4 at the time they moved into the new house. As a long sufferer of migraines I have never heard of a 4 year old with migraines. It may occur that young, although I think it's very rare. Maybe if the child has other medical issues. In Hannah's case.... stress maybe? Or Kate made up her own diagnosis. Migraine sounds much more dramatic than headache. And we all know Kate likes the dramatics.

goawayJandK said...

"Re: the single mom issue How can the media refer to Kate as a "single" mom and in the same breath refer to Jon as a "married" man?..."

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Great point. I would like to add :

How is K8 "working" but the kids are not ? How is the show K8's "job" but not the kids'?

Retching in the Laundry Room said...

GoAwayJ&K said, ""Re: the single mom issue How can the media refer to Kate as a "single" mom and in the same breath refer to Jon as a "married" man?..."

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Great point. I would like to add :

How is K8 "working" but the kids are not ? How is the show K8's "job" but not the kids'?

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Another excellent point.

Further, how is it 'the family job' yet 'the children are not working'?

Pants On Fire.

ManicNarcissism said...

bbeau said...

Yes, it was mentioned in one of the first episodes where they were in the new house. Kate said that Hannah had migraines and the girls were waking her up so she got a room all to herself.

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Hannah has migraines? She would have been 4 at the time they moved into the new house. As a long sufferer of migraines I have never heard of a 4 year old with migraines. It may occur that young, although I think it's very rare. Maybe if the child has other medical issues. In Hannah's case.... stress maybe? Or Kate made up her own diagnosis. Migraine sounds much more dramatic than headache. And we all know Kate likes the dramatics.

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I agree. Didn't say I believed it, just said that was what was stated. I think it was totally made up so Hannah could have the extra bedroom. Or as a previous poster said, Hannah isn't in that room at all and the nanny is and they weren't prepared to tell people that they had a nanny that spent the night.

At this point it is when Kate said they had a babysitter helper girl whose "hours vary" but she would never ever have a nanny. snark. snark.

GoPoshGo said...

For The Moment? said...
...she dresses for a date everytime she goes out the door.

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If "dressing for a date" is the new code for "dressing for a paying customer," then I'll have to agree with you.

Brummygirl said...

At this point it is when Kate said they had a babysitter helper girl whose "hours vary" but she would never ever have a nanny. snark. snark.
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"A Rose by any other name, is still a Rose".
K8 calls it as best suits herself or the situation.
Does she know just how many people dislike her, or is she in total oblivion?

Not a fan of either said...

As far as her dating or 'seeing' someone, ITA. However, I have long thought and still think it is someone associated with TLC. I know flirting when I see it and for the last year Kate has been flirting with someone just off camera. At least when I was watching. I haven't watched since last summer, but I can think of numerous times when she smiled her little coy smile and gave what she thinks is a flirty look for 'someone' possibly nearby. JMO. I knew something was up when she made such a BIG deal about not wearing shoes in the house then suddenly when they moved into the new house there she was clomping around on hardwood floors with 3" heels. That was so ridiculous looking I thought the show had turned into a comedy. The rest is history.

GoPoshGo said...

Brummygirl said...
At this point it is when Kate said they had a babysitter helper girl whose "hours vary" but she would never ever have a nanny. snark. snark.
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"A Rose by any other name, is still a Rose".
K8 calls it as best suits herself or the situation.
Does she know just how many people dislike her, or is she in total oblivion?

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... and "would smell as sweet." But, since Kate and her feet stink to high heaven, let's call her out for what she truly is: a delusional, lying opportunist. She admitted on national tv that she has a "full-time babysitter." I've posted about this on another thread, but I have to say again: Kate, we have a word for a full-time babysitter in the English language: she's called A NANNY.

Enough with the half-truths and twisting-of-words to deceive people about your real situation. You don't clean; you don't do laundry; you don't care for your kids; you don't do yard work; you don't grocery shop; you certainly don't cook. I'm sorry, but am I missing something about what qualifies her to be the expert on "mothering" that all of her co-whores in the media claim she is???? An expert on delegating, manipulating, and abusing: I'll give her that. But "mothering"??? Not so much.

Ladylou said...

I am counting the minutes when the show will be gone.
I doubt we'll stop seeing Kate any time soon though.

The photos of her and Natalie Morales doing what Kate does best "shopping" in the Grove of LA.
This place looks about as untouchable by any working class people as any I've seen.

Kate will never be able to hold a 9-5 job that will pay her anything toward her shopping addiction.
She won't be able to come down from her high horse and get a 40 hour a week paycheck.

Someone that has tasted the side of luxury like she has won't be able to live a life of Less than the rich and famous.
Lordy-be what shall she do?

texasgal23 said...

Nana Janet has passed away.

silimom said...

I am thinking that the rabbi who suggested Hailey was not good for him might be the catalyst that will ultimately smooth the way for them to "get back together."

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Hmmm...ok I want to preface this by saying that I am not into conspiracy theories. However, it would make sense for the Rabbi to be their marriage counselor, as he's already on TLC's payroll. Dr. Phil's not. And they most definitely could do a new reality show out of this - Shalom in the Home: The Jon & Kate episodes.

And the sad thing is that the Sheeple would turn out in droves, the viewers they lost for lack of family values might return in order to encourage these two to work things out, and the rubber necker contingent would be there too.

dustilies said...

I have no issue with Kate having a live-in nanny. Or a groundskeeping service for that huge estate. Or a housekeeper to keep the house clean and running.

Most normal moms with eight kids and a bundle of money would, I think, use the hired help to minimize the distractions and demands on her time and allow her to give her kids the one thing money can't buy--a mother's attention.

This summer, someone posted about a woman with ten children who made a point to spend 30 minutes one on one with each child every day. That completely justifies whatever help one can afford.

The problem here has two parts:

1) she lies about having a nanny (WTF--it is important for the kids' safety and the adults' sanity to have more than one adult around with 8 kids that young. Yes, most folks manage without, but if you had the dough, wouldn't you want another grownup to play with and cuddle that big group of kids?)

2) she doesn't seem to use her freedom from some chores to give her kids that precious attention and validation. Have we ever seen her teach her kids ANYTHING? Controlling the placement of every sliced strawberry on the flag doesn't count.

Ladylou said...

How can people show such stupidity?

I felt drawn to look for Janet Weidenheimer's obituary. I like to say a prayer for ones who have gone on.

I found it under the funeral home of Edward J Kuhn of West Reading PA.

What I didn't know I would find and wish I hadn't were viewers of the Jon & Kate show writing in her online guest book.

One unfeeling idiot said "hope Kate and the children can get through this with God's help."

OMG is this the cruelest thing you have ever heard?

Kate should never have been mentioned in this dear lady's guest book! I don't think Kate gave her the time of day after she didn't need her to fold laundry anymore. At least that's how Kate portrays herself. Use them and throw them away.

If I were a member of Janet Weidenheimer's family and close friends I would be so dismayed to see any mention of Kate plus 8 in a memorial type book.

Surely this dear woman had more value and love in her life than an episode of J&K.

Shame on whoever wrote anything about that stupid show in her memorial book. You must be a sheeple... the rest of us would have known better!

look at me said...

Controlling the placement of every sliced strawberry on the flag doesn't count.
__________________________
I remember this. kate speaks about memories, but Its all about SHOW!

Flag cake-
The girls will remember being yelled at/Joel banished. They could not care about photo of a perfect cake wth smiling children.

Trip to Disney- there a posed photo of the entire family the kids are in identical outfits seated boy/girl in the Disney park strollers.
The kids will remember Kate making a fool of herself because of some dripped ice cream. I think what ever is off in her head realsied that the attention was all on the little kids and this meltdown of her was to remind everyone to look at her!!

not K8's bestest friend said...

carolann- I hardly consider anyone who shares 50/50 custody a single parent. I also don't think anyone who has a full time babysitter present in their home with them a single parent. To me single parenthood is not just defined by your relationship status. I also don't think that the people on here who talk about being single moms are trying to be martyrs. They are sharing their reality of single parenthood vs Kate's. I'm not saying you're wrong and I'm right. Just sharing my opinion.

Youcantbesingleandmarriedboth said...

Kate isn't even single yet so she needs to wait until she's divorced and then she can claim to be a divorced parent. I wasn't a single parent until the ex died.

Brummygirl said...

I think the words to the song "Alfie" goes well in this situation:

"What's it all about, Gosselins?
Is it just for the moment we live?
What's it all about when you sort it out, Gosselins?
Are we meant to take more than we give"!!!!

Sasha222 said...

I don't know what is going on with the Rabbi thingie, and some people are suggesting that since he had a show on TLC as well that he is paving the way for Jon and Kate to get back together and get the show back on. I saw a tiny clip of Jon speaking at the thing with the Rabbi (would like to find a link to the entire thing if it exists) but in the clip Jon is talking about how TLC wanted KON to stay together for the sake of the show and the "brand". He also mentions something about how the whole thing was like an out of control monster or something. So I don't think it was paving the way for him to have anything to do with TLC in the future.

pogo said...

Kate, treats her children like dolls, dress them up and alike, have a cow if they get dirty(make sure to have a scene about it!), parade them like a freak show(like the Dionne Quintuplets were) then pass them off to someone else to raise(nannies) and then pat herself on the back as being a loving caring mother(NOT). When cornered, yell out: I DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN! hide behind them, oh yeah don't forget to blame Jon for everything. Care nothing for the fans or other mothers who really struggle day to day, be sure to whine, cry, complain about what a struggle,(especially when you are on your book tour, on media shows and especially when you are on thoses free trips)and do remember Kate to keep reminding your loyal fans on why they should support you(financially) and your kids cause it was our fault that you choose to have 6 babies. And do remember Kate to keep TLC finding and probably paying some of theses people to keep finding dirt on Jon. So, on day in the future your children can read and watch all of this, and come to hate you. and ask why, but we all know the answer to that: I do it for the kids. LOLOLOLOL

For The Moment? said...

I just saw the pictures of Kate and Natalie out shopping in LA. Wasn't she just crying broke and I don't have a job and the kids don't have a job and I can't pay my bills and I can't buy my mother of pearl ring? The photos were disgusting. She has changed her look again--heavy dark eyes--she looked like a "working girl" prancing around for the paps--so she can sob on TV about 18 cars following her. I can't believe Natalie Morales is buying into this crap, I thought she was a real journalist.

For The Moment? said...

When Nana Janet would come in the kids would light up like a Christmas tree---Nana's home, Nana's home. I remember how kind she was with Colin when he got so frustrated because he couldn't pack his trike with all the things he wanted and she just simply walked over and said this won't fit and he accepted that. She was a nice lady, and gave the kids some good memories.

For The Moment? said...

I just saw a clip from tonight's show w/ Kate sobbing, of course; now she can't sleep. Now she is dreaming about 2010, the divorce will be final and everything will be fine and the show can go on according to Natalie. Why doesn't someone just remind her that she is the one that wanted the divorce. Expect a love fest between her and Natalie tonight. I can't wait for the recap, cause I don't have the stomach for it.

MickeyMcKean said...

I am so tired of All Things Gosselin. In fact it is 4:30 a.m. and had a *dream* that Kate was finally off the air on all channels thanks to the Balloon Boy drawing attention to kids on reality TV, the public got sick and tired of both Jon and Kate and stopped watching or reading anything and everything that involved them, now that the PA state budget has been approved the PA labor board took action so the kids don't have to work for the rings that Kate mentioned on “Ellen”, and then when Kate realized that the lights were turned off once and for all, when reality hit her right between her eyes, one of the tups was conveniently "lost" somehow. So Kate was once again back on TV sobbing "for the kids". It was seeing her on my TV with Meredith Vierra just like before that woke me up from this *dream*.

Last week I was very disappointed to see that Hailey also cashed in for being involved in the Gosselin mess. However I also felt sorry for her because she is young and I did believe her when she said she has been harassed by people she does not even know. I know that Hailey is not a homewrecker, she just got involved with an older man going through a nasty divorce who has money and baggage.

We GWoPers have to keep in mind that not everyone has found this blog, they simply go through life assuming that everything on the show is real and not scripted. In my case I am not a sheeple who goes through life wearing rose colored glasses. No, I am an educated woman who can see through the lies that Kate likes to spin.

I do not think that Jon and Kate are going to get back together, that this train wreck is something that they are doing in order to boost the ratings for their show. First of all, I don’t think they are good enough actors to pull this off, and second, I think that Kate truly believes she simply does not need Jon to have a TV show, and in time she won’t feel that she needs the kids either to have a show either.

But if I am wrong, and if they wind up reconciling “for the kids”, I don’t think the viewing public will embrace it and continue to watch the show. In fact I will even say that I think even the sheeple will realize that the joke is on them, and let’s face it, no one likes to be the butt of a joke.

JMO.

the scoop said...

Big apology from Jon-to Kate.
GET READY!!!
Kate goes on TV, AGAIN, to gain sympathy, cry, etc...
GET READY!
Gloria Allred says "a big announcement to come"...
GET READY!
The sheeple will be so happy to learn Jon & Kate will reconcile!

More money-- Safe & sound.

"Kate plus 8" will continue, Jon creeps back in (more $$$)

I know alot of posters are saying Im crazy for thinking this is all a hoax, so I will no longer use the word "hoax"...I'll use SCAM.. or charade? All for $$$

Kate has fanangled her way around for years to get people to give her money, since the tups were born! They arent dumb'ish.

The show will die, though...no one is interested in watching anymore. It wont matter to Kate though, she's been raking in cash all along

NoUse4Kate said...

PopEater had pieces of the interview on their site. The link is too long to post. Anyway, enough Jon. You've apologized over and over and over again. Everyone knows you screwed up. K8 has to be eating this up and I am guessing it will be a cold day in hell before she will apologize over and over and over again for anything she did. This is just feeding her ego.

junebug said...

My thoughts and prayers go out to Nana Janets family.

I appreciate the kindness and unconditional love that she showed the Gosselin children while with them.

God speed Nana Janet.

For The Moment? said...

The Scoop said...
Gloria Allred says "a big announcement to come"...
GET READY

Where did you hear this about Gloria Allred. I have been trying to figure out her place in all of this, I really hope that she will sign on as Jon's attorney, as that is the only hope I see for him...I get all my info here...

NoUse4Kate said...

The main problem I have with your theory "the scoop," is that Gloria Allred would NOT participate in such a scam knowingly. Love her, or hate her, she is not about exploiting children at all. She ranks up there with Paul Peterson on this issue.

fidosmommy said...

pogo said...
Kate, treats her children like dolls, dress them up and alike, have a cow if they get dirty(make sure to have a scene about it!), parade them like a freak show(like the Dionne Quintuplets were) then pass them off to someone else to raise(nannies)


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Somebody else was raised that way, too. His name is Charles, Prince of Wales. Entitlement with little parental nurturing. On display as part of the "job". I think it's the root of lots of his problems.

My mother used to say that Queen Elizabeth is very good at queening but not very good at mothering. I would love to know what she thinks of Kate Gosselin, but alas, my mom isn't here anymore to ask.

Connie said...

Can these people be any more pitiful?

I do truly feel sorry for them.

TLC destroyed this family.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/33585062/ns/entertainment-celebrities/?ns=entertainment-celebrities

ErinKate said...

Gloria Allred. Another famewhore who can't stay of TV. When they appear on the "Insider Panels" they lose all credibility with me.

Go Away Gosselins! said...

If Kate thinks that in 2010 once the divorce is final that the show will go on she is crazy. The show is BORING. The kids have completely lost their "cute factor" (I never thought they were cuter than any other kid I know). There is nothing else to film. Kate does not do well on interviews (there were so many "ums" and pauses during Ellen that I thought I was going to scream) so I honestly don't think she will succeed once the media hype goes away.

I am glad that Jon apologized to Kate. He has been horrific during the past few months. I also think that Kate needs to publicly apologize to Jon. She has been horrific to him during their marriage. They are both guilty of dragging the other through the mud and I think it is time for them to act like they have an ounce of class (we all know they won't).

Sissy said...

The Scoop said...
Gloria Allred says "a big announcement to come"...
GET READY

Where did you hear this about Gloria Allred. I have been trying to figure out her place in all of this, I really hope that she will sign on as Jon's attorney, as that is the only hope I see for him...I get all my info here...

11/02/2009 7:34 AM
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As much as I dislike Gloria Allred, she just might be the lawyer Jon needs. She is a pit bull and he needs some very firm direction!

redskiesatnight said...

I just saw a clip from tonight's show w/ Kate sobbing, of course; now she can't sleep.


How pathetic!! Kate cant sleep! Who the F cares. If Kate thinks her life is so sad maybe she should spend 24 hours walking in the shoes of a parent who had a son or daughter KILLED IN ACTION while serving our country, or the wife who is single handedly holding down the fort 24/7 because her husband is dying of cancer, or the thousands of Americans who have lost their jobs and homes etc and so on. I have absolutely ZERO sympathy because Ms. Katie Irene isnt able to sleep at night! FYI, you made YOUR OWN BED and if you have trouble sleeping in it, THATS YOUR problem! Take a Xanax and get a grip.

Vanessa said...

I think she likes using the word "babysitter" because it conjures up the image of someone young, with not a lot of experience and who probably doesn't have kids of their own. She's trying to prove that she is THE primary care giver and that someone just comes in to help her out a little bit. Even people who bring their kids to a DAYCARE don't call their DAYCARE PROVIDER
a BABYSITTER! If she actually called her the NANNY then she couldn't play the martyr/victim role. She can only peddle herself as a "mother" NOTHING ELSE, so how could she say she has a nanny?
What's funny is that most people who do have nannies are very open and actually proud of it. It's just another Khateism, if SHE doesn't say it, then it's not true.

Im_in_PR said...

I do truly feel sorry for them.

TLC destroyed this family.


If the Gosselin's were not such greedy grifters, TLC would not have been able to "destroy" them.

Phoebe said...

I have two questions that have bothered me for so long; can any of help?
1- did she save the enormous expensive kitchen range to put back in the remodeled kitchen, or did she just toss it and get a new one? Please tell me she saved it.
2- when her friend was organizing the kitchen, I saw her toss out something that looked like a Weight Watchers folder/notebook...did anyone catch that, and if she was doing WW, wonder why she hasn't tried some show tie-in with that company?

She's..umm..RUINED said...

I am always amazed when encountering mass stupidity.
So many people think Kate is the model of motherhood.
Maybe these people live on the planet Kate thinks Jon is from.

It is beyond stupid how so many think Jodie and Kevin 'sold out' Kate.
And the person who wants to send Kate money for her speeding ticket?
PPPUUULLLEEEEEEZZZEEEE.

runwithwind said...

Just when you think the Gosselins couldn't stoop any lower.

http://entertainment.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/11/02/fox411-exclusive-hailey-glassmans-abuse-claims-about-jon-gosselin-made-up-by-jon/

karmasabitch said...

I remember watching the very first special on this family and told my husband when he got home from work, how I felt like she was complaining and begging for stuff the whole hour. I didn't like her attitude from day one. To have been gifted with eight beautiful children (when some can't have any) and act as if it was a daily burden and a horrible sacrifice. Wow, my surprise when I noticed people were clambering to give them things including their own show! I don't think it was a gradual change as some people have stated. I believe she was who she was all along and it just became harder to hide with the attention and money pouring in.
But Here's my question, I believe I've heard that there are twelve living sets of sextuplets in the world. How on earth are these families possibly surviving without television cameras in their home, their own show, freebies galore and massive amounts of attention? Not to mention two parents slinging mud at each other at any given chance and fighting over the kids heads like they don't matter in all of this. How could they possibly be providing for so many children without society's help? According to KHate, it would be impossible to provide for them as the rest of us provide for our children. According to her, she "needs" all this stuff to raise them. I would love to see a documentary highlighting the other families and showing how they have managed to raise their children. How they have managed to capture memories on a *gasp* camcorder, they do sell those you know. And how they managed "life experiences" on a normal level like the rest of the masses. One show mind you, I believe our t.v's are inundated enough with reality families. My guess is they did and are doing just fine. Then maybe, just maybe, more (SH)people would open their eyes to the lies she spews forth. This has been about her sense of entitlement and greed from day one. Never has this been about the kids or raising them.

Sharla said...

My apologies to about four people whose comments were rejected unintentionally. My cat decided to jump on the keyboard.

sadey said...

I am still quite amazed that anyone would consider the Gosselins celebrities. What have they done to warrant such a title..I have never been so disgusted at how this woman is still on tv. How can anyone defend her..How can people still watch and give tem ratings......

the scoop said...

To all posters who thought I was taking the HOAX thing too far & saying the Gosselins do NOT get paid by tabloids, Ummmmmm--> Here ya go:

Fox411 Exclusive:
Hailey Glassman's abuse claims about Jon Gosselin made up - by Jon!

We've heard of tangled webs, but this is getting ridiculous.

"Jon actually made the decision to have Hailey go on air and bad mouth him,...Jon and Hailey get paid for their appearances on these shows and they need the money....?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ok, who wants to apologize to me first? HAHA! Just kiddin'

((p.s. Kate gets paid by tabloids also & informs the paps where she'll be & they pay her also))

NoUse4Kate said...

runwithwind said...

Just when you think the Gosselins couldn't stoop any lower.

http://entertainment.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/11/02/fox411-exclusive-hailey-glassmans-abuse-claims-about-jon-gosselin-made-up-by-jon/


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Wow...if true, words cannot express how disgusted I am with him. I some how believe that to be true. He is now on the same level as k8 in my book.

You are sick and twisted pup Jon, how does it feel to be on the same level as k8? God help those children with parents like that.

Kat said...

Wow. Just for grins, I typed "gosselin speeding ticket" into Google. On the first page of results, I got back NINE links to Jon's ticket in Sept, and just ONE about Kate's. And SHE had all the kids in her car at the time! Does she have a whole PR machine out there making sure these types of articles don't show up?

GoPoshGo said...

Kat said...
Does she have a whole PR machine out there making sure these types of articles don't show up?

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I wouldn't be surprised if there are professional "scrubbers" who get rid of unflattering Internet stories about "celebrities" (I put that in quotes, because we're talking about Kate, afterall). Just try to find a photo of Jennifer Lopez as a "Flygirl" from her "In Living Color" days. Not a flattering look for her back then, and lo and behold it's darn near impossible to find a photo online. I think the scrubbers and alive and well.

NoUse4Kate said...

the scoop said...

To all posters who thought I was taking the HOAX thing too far & saying the Gosselins do NOT get paid by tabloids, Ummmmmm--> Here ya go:


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What you said/implied was that it (the divorce garbage) was a big hoax and they would reconcile. I think we all realize they get paid from tabloid interviews. What he did, he did for money, not to reconcile with K8. *If* he reconciles with her you can say, "I told you so" and wear the badge proudly, but it hasn't happened yet....

Could it happen? Yes. Would I be surprised? No. I lean more to the side of, they are both dumb asses in it for themselves and could care less about the kids.

the scoop said...

NoUse4Kate said...
What you said/implied was that it (the divorce garbage) was a big hoax and they would reconcile. I think we all realize they get paid from tabloid interviews. What he did, he did for money, not to reconcile with K8. *If* he reconciles with her you can say, "I told you so" and wear the badge proudly, but it hasn't happened yet....
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Someone here posted that they DO NOT get paid by the tabloids...I disagreed. Now the Fox article proves they do. I don't intend to do the I-told-ya-so dance...just giving my cents...well, OK, I WILL do the dance...LOL

allie said...

Kate didn't have all the kids in her car when she got the ticket. Some sources say none of the kids, some say "there were kids" and Fox ran with that and said "all the kids". She got the ticket in the SUV - there's no way all the kids fit in there. I hope that NONE of them were in the vehicle.

anotherthing... said...

Sharla said...
My apologies to about four people whose comments were rejected unintentionally. My cat decided to jump on the keyboard.

11/02/2009 12:53 PM
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This made me lol!!!! My kitty gets 'jellus' too!

*meow*

Just My Few Canadian Cents said...

Earlier in the day I was ranting about why Kate doesn't deserve this seemingly endless pity party. My point was she is the author of her own misfortune and it's especially pathetic that she's trying to garner sympathy points for her "poor single mother" hype when she reportedly ended the marriage. She approached Jon over a year ago and told him the marriage was over but they needed to maintain their "brand" for the sake of their show/income. I hope the public wakes up to this fact soon...she mistreated Jon during the marriage and she was the one who dumped him. And even while married, Jon was a devoted and doting parent.
But what's saddest of all, is TLC had options when presented with the Gosselin parents who were only too willing to sacrifice their children's privacy and well-being for the sake of a show.
True to being "the learning channel" they could have produced a show that was actually informative and helpful to parents of young children and multiples. For instance, they could have done a show and child-proofing the home and followed a child-proofer around the home and pointing out the potential choking and poisoning hazards like venetian blind strings etc. Not all parents can afford a child proofer and I'm sure a show like that could save lives and prevent accidents.
They could have done a show on how to make baby food if parents don't want to buy it. How to deal with fussy eaters, sibling rivalry/bulleying and PROPER disciplinarian practices. They could have dealt with marriage issues that arise while caring for young children. Economical family recreational activities and outings. How to care for ill children and when to actually go to the emergency room as most parents make many unnecessary trips in the early years (her nursing background would have come in handy here). They could have done a show on how to support families with babies in NICU as it's a very stressful time in a family's life. They could talk about child development and developmental issues and highlight the need for sensitivity and tolerance to the special needs population. They could have done a show on checking to ensure the home doesn't contain lead-based paint. They could have done a show on dealing with competitive parents/soccer parents and draw awareness to such behaviour. There is so much TLC coudl have done using the Gosselins and bringing in experts who would no doubt would have loved the exposure. A show like this would have been great and need not have invaded and violated the privacy of the Gosselin children. My apologies in advance if such a show already exists as I don't watch a lot of television. But TLC could have done a wonderful job with this family and truly enriched and helped so many. But sadly they sold out to the mighty dollar and instead created a show that was reduced to watching what the Gosselins got to do, go, meet and get. How very sad. The potential was there but TLC blew it, and now eight little children are paying the price for their poor judgment.

hmm said...

Im_in_PR said...
I do truly feel sorry for them.
TLC destroyed this family.
If the Gosselin's were not such greedy grifters, TLC would not have been able to "destroy" them.
______________________________
TLC knocked and they said come on in.

They were not slaves, they could have quit anytime, but they were enjoying the money, celebrity, and perks.

they'rekidding said...

This is unreal and I pray to god it never happens.

Jon and Kate the movie?

http://movies.rightcelebrity.com/jon-kate-movie/1245

hmmm said...

believe I've heard that there are twelve living sets of sextuplets in the world. How on earth are these families possibly surviving without television cameras in their home, their own show, freebies galore and massive amounts of attention?
_____________________________
Having lots of kids will be tight, but is not impossible-it depends on your lifestlye.

These people can do it because they wanted to be PARENTS and a family first.

Any other family would have done a couple of shows, maybe occasional update, and got enough for some mortgage/college payments and then retreated into anonymity to live as a family.

These two want to be famous!!!

Midnight Serenade said...

"She got the ticket in the SUV - there's no way all the kids fit in there. I hope that NONE of them were in the vehicle."

Actually, they would. It's a seven-passenger car. -- seven ADULTS. If she jammed three in the back seat, four in the middle, and one in the front passenger seat, they would all fit. Of course, she may have gotten a ticket for not having children in child seats!

cottagequeso gal said...

In an ideal world Khate Gosselin would meet up with Richard Heene and float away into oblivion in that duct-taped jiffy pop saucer of his...they could compare acting skills and discuss who has the better hairstyle

Shoshanna said...

Kate's checklist before doing "Kate' Story":

- Did I remember to put the sliced onion in my tissue
to help me cry? Check.

- Is Steve in place, just off-camera, to protect me from all the crazed haters hiding behind the drapes? Check.

- Do I look cuter than Natalie Morales? Check.

- Do I have the cheat list written on the inside of my hand? (30 weeks, die for them, high road, speak with grace, church- yes, sickening allegations, family betrayal, for my kidzzzzzzzzz...

Sidney said...

cottagequeso gal said...
In an ideal world Khate Gosselin would meet up with Richard Heene and float away into oblivion in that duct-taped jiffy pop saucer of his...they could compare acting skills and discuss who has the better hairstyle

11/02/2009 6:30 PM
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Wouldn't that be fun!

Then, Jon could take up with Nadya Suleman and finally get a father figure in her poor kids lives.

Ridiculous people...ugh...

WI thoughts said...

Kat said...
Does she have a whole PR machine out there making sure these types of articles don't show up?

*********************

I wouldn't be surprised if there are professional "scrubbers" who get rid of unflattering Internet stories about "celebrities" (I put that in quotes, because we're talking about Kate, afterall). Just try to find a photo of Jennifer Lopez as a "Flygirl" from her "In Living Color" days. Not a flattering look for her back then, and lo and behold it's darn near impossible to find a photo online. I think the scrubbers and alive and well.
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I respectfully disagree! I typed in Jennifer Lopez Flygirl Pictures and they popped right up. (Google) I also tried to Kate Gosselin speeding ticket and got more than one hit. Anyway.....I'm thinking that maybe there will be more hits for Kate and her ticket as time goes on?

WI thoughts said...

Just googled "Kate Gosselin Speeding Ticket" and there are lots more hits! Just takes time sometimes. No conspiracy.

Anna said...

allie said...
Kate didn't have all the kids in her car when she got the ticket. Some sources say none of the kids, some say "there were kids" and Fox ran with that and said "all the kids". She got the ticket in the SUV - there's no way all the kids fit in there. I hope that NONE of them were in the vehicle.


The time on the ticket was 9:52 on Thursday, Oct 29. Aren't the kids in school at that time? For sure, Cara and Mady would have been. The county where she got the ticket is not that close to where they live. Does anyone blieve Kate takes the tups anywhere if cameras aren't rolling?

ItzRLyf said...

The Natalie Morales interview coupled with Jon Boy's sit down with the rabbi have pushed me over the edge. You can't turn on "The Insider" "Entertainment Tonight" "Access Hollywood" or anything else without being bombarded by "Tears on My Pillow" K8 and Pillsbury JonBoy. Even many tv talk show hosts dressed as KON for Halloween (with hilarious results). This no longer qualifies as a circus; it's a freak show.

It's funny how everyone wants to throw Balloon Boy's parents in jail for one stunt...KON deserve a life sentence for what they are doing and will do to their kids.

Who will stop the abuse?

Im_in_PR said...

Just wanted to clarify if I may:

Someone said "I do truly feel sorry for them.TLC destroyed this family.



I (Im_in_PR) replied "If the Gosselin's were not such greedy grifters, TLC would not have been able to "destroy" them."

The comment about feeling sorry for them wasn't mine. :-)

Huh said...

Just My Few Canadian Cents said...
(edited for space) "True to being "the learning channel" they could have produced a show that was actually informative and helpful to parents of young children and multiples. There is so much TLC coudl have done using the Gosselins and bringing in experts who would no doubt would have loved the exposure. A show like this would have been great and need not have invaded and violated the privacy of the Gosselin children."

******

Those are all wonderful ideas! I would have loved to watch a show like that! Why can't people like you be television producers and come up with creative, ethical, and informative programming?

MossHill said...

I'm finding this a little scary that both parents have recent and repeated histories of high-speed traffic violations.

For "the sake of the children", if not yourself or the rest of us, SLOW DOWN.

I travel those roads, too. If I see you drive like that, I WILL call the State Police.

bbeau said...

karmasabitch said...

I would like to see some morning shows do a piece on other families with multiples and how they cope without all the $$$ and paid help. Like the McCaughey(sp) family or the Dilley's or another family with sextuplets we haven't heard of. It would give the public another perspective and also get people to rethink their opinion on Kate's pity party.

MossHill said...

MossHill said...

For "the sake of the children", if not yourself or the rest of us, SLOW DOWN.
...
11/03/2009 9:19 AM
~ ~ ~

I meant "yourselves" - neither's record is clear.

But please make a small mental note, everyone, when you find yourself staring at the scratches in the trunk lid of the car in front of you .. you are too close ...

Momof2 said...

This is HILARIOUS....I wonder if Kelly had Kate's blessing..knowing her..I'm sure she called her first and sucked up to her

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNbJklNTy10

WallyWinnie said...

I think I remember hearing that Kate contacted the McCaughey family prior to even having the 6 babies. I think she knew Oprah and others would give her things to help them out and it became a sickness of Kates to have people fawn over them and give them freebies.

It makes me sad to think Kate would not accept gently used items for the family. Kates dad was the pastor and he offered whatever the people would donate for the babies. Money was not offered since it would take away from the church. People offered time and love and support (and free unmatching cribs) Kate wanted the NEW van like the McCaugheys got. The new cribs. She didnt want people coming in with their ideas and tastes to remodel the nursery. Kate wanted full control.

I think the room did look hideous. Kate was rude and not gracious after they revealed the room. That is her style! I think it would have been neat to take the 6 unmatching cribs, sand them down, and paint 3 in pink and 3 in blue. Buy new mattresses. Im sure they would give them a bulk discount. Jon could have worked on the cribs. Can you imagine how that would have looked and felt to all the people who were donating? More people would have offered to help if they saw them actually deserving of any of it.

Nyk said...

We were watching The Soup the other night and up pops Kate doing her popcorn yell. My husband turns to me and says that it has to be enhanced. Sadly, I had to inform him that it wasn't.

Charles said...

Those kids are damaged forever because of her as this pain will be etched in their psyches. She MUST do something to fix the damage both she and Jon did and get them into therapy immediately- individual therapy and family therapy before it is too late. How irresponsible of Kate and Jon to not get them help when Kate publically reports that the children are affected by this and there are changes and introversion on some. If a child had a deep flesh wound with blood pouring out of it, it would be child abuse if you didn’t take the child to a hospital if it bled to death, Well that is essentially what Kte and Jon are doing to their kids by not rushing them to a therapists office. It is the same type of child abuse in my opinion. These children as reported by Kate are emotionally wounded and instead of blood, there is changing non positive behavior patterns from aggression to introversion pouring out of their wounded hearts and souls. By not doing anything to help them and taking care of their wounded psyches and hearts, Jon and Kate are allowing them to emotionally bleed to death. That is child abuse in my opinion.

DR Lillian Glass

shilohpeace said...

Please tell me Kate did NOT say this to her kids. I was appalled to see and hear Kate say to her kids at the parking lot of their school bus... "you would be standing here in the parking lot all alone if I wasn't here"....

What the eff was that supposed to mean.. like she is some goddess to the kids because she is picking them up... like they should be grateful for her services in picking them up from school. like maybe they should be greatful that their celebrity mom wannabe movie star is picking these underlings up... give me a break.. she is so losing touch. It is her effing obligation to pick those kids up and to make sure that they are safe and get their education.

Does this bother anyone else like it does me? I think it is a form of abuse especially when the kids were not doing anything but getting off the school bus and waiting to get into the car to go home.

alsoamomtotwins said...

This is a great article. Truly worth reading.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b151862_lets_root_yes_root_jon_gosselin.html

GoPoshGo said...

Kathy Griffin's new stand-up act is on Bravo tonight. The description of the show says that she comments on J&K+8. I am really anxious to see if she'll rip Kate a new one, or if she really did sell out by befriending Kate. I'll be so disappointed if she doesn't call Kate out. Kathy is way too smart and too savvy NOT to see Kate for what she is.

Jane in California said...

As to getting paid by tabloids - I think if they give a story or scoop to a tabloid or magazine, they sometimes get paid for that - depends on the publication. As to the pictures -- it's the photogs who get paid usually, not the "celeb". In the case of the Suri Cruise pics, the Cruises chose the publication that would have the official rights to first pictures of Suri. That's because they knew all the paps would be vying to get those pics, so they figured -- let's do it as close to our way as possible.

However, if there's a way for Kate to make money off her kids and it includes selling tips to the paps as to where and when they will be -- I'm sure she has no hesitation to do it, telling herself that "it's for the kids."

ErinKate said...

Kate is being trashed on Joy Behar tonight.

tallblonde said...

OMG !!! The Real Story Why Kate hosted 2 days on "The View" !!!!

JUST finished watching Kathy Griffin on Bravo - "Balls of Steel" new comedy show - she's talking about being back on the view - she mentions that on Thursday Kate Gosselin is the Guest Host - and Kathy is the guest. On FRIDAY (that's also taped on Thursday) - Kathy Griffin was supposed to be the Guest Host - but the guest - LaToya Jackson - did not want to do the show if Kathy was on it (I wonder why? *LOL*) - SO they had KATE be the Guest Host for the 2nd day !!!
since she was there anyway!

Thank you for the truth Kathy! :-)

Ladylou said...

As said before.. Kate and the children could move back to the Elizabethtown colonial.

Possibly she should have all 8 kids sit down at that grand FREE piano she has so ungraciously just left there in the living room unwanted and discarded.
It must not have matchey-matched her color scheme at the new house right?

Have a look at it.. it's left along with the washers & dryers.

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/2190-Andrew-Avenue_Elizabethtown_PA_
17022_1107599099

ShunThem said...

OK, guys. Showbiz Tonight has just hinted strongly that Jon and Kate are reconciling. NOW do you believe this whole thing has been a scam from the beginning?! The blind gossip item from Gawker was right all along.

jibberjabbers said...

ShunThem said...

OK, guys. Showbiz Tonight has just hinted strongly that Jon and Kate are reconciling.
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No way is Jon thinking about reconciling with Kate. They may "reconcile" to be friends for the sake of their children because their 15min are about up. But I don't see Jon going back to Kate.

Kate, after 4 months of being alone may have realized that she misses him and needs him to be her doormat, but lets be real. It's over between these 2.

Jon has always said he wanted to do that from the very beginning. Not be husband and wife, BUT mom and dad.

This little feud they got going is about to be over. People are sick of it. Fighting with one another on TV isn't doing them any good besides ranking in the $$$, before they have to get real jobs.

They need to act their age, be civilized, communicate with one another, and become "friends" for sake of their children.

look at me said...

However, if there's a way for Kate to make money off her kids and it includes selling tips to the paps as to where and when they will be -- I'm sure she has no hesitation to do it, telling herself that "it's for the kids."
_______________________
I think this is why they had a picnic in the FRONT yard everyday thi summer...so that Radarline or whoever could get daily shots.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"OK, guys. Showbiz Tonight has just hinted strongly that Jon and Kate are reconciling. NOW do you believe this whole thing has been a scam from the beginning?! The blind gossip item from Gawker was right all along."
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Interesting, since he just said the divorce will be final by the end of the year.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/2190-Andrew-Avenue_Elizabethtown_PA_
17022_1107599099"

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Sorry -- the link doesn't work for me. Is this something new, or is it the same listing with photos that's been running for a year?

Annies said...

The traffic speeding ticket. Didn't ROL say she was alone in the vehicle? Not that it excuses speeding.. Living in Pa, the fines are steep for each few miles you go over the speed limit. Her ticket was actually kind of a low amount.

Kates is Puffy said...

Jon & Hailey are putting on a heck of a show on Entertainment Tonight...all scripted, Im sure. Gearing up for some BIG NEWS on Friday/weekend, I guess....as usual.

Why cant these people GO AWAY!

KatesBigFlintstoneToe said...

Kat said...
Does she have a whole PR machine out there making sure these types of articles don't show up?
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Kat, I watch a show on Bravo called "Flipping Out" and the one business partner/decorator was manipulating Google searches so he could take business away from the other partner, so YES! It can be done.

the scoop said...

ShunThem said...
OK, guys. Showbiz Tonight has just hinted strongly that Jon and Kate are reconciling. NOW do you believe this whole thing has been a scam from the beginning?! The blind gossip item from Gawker was right all along.
__________

I've been saying it for months! Do you have a link?

KaresNoMom said...

Totally a change of topic, but for some reason this bugs me. (I know - get a life. LOL)....

WHY does Kate go to Kinkos every day?! You live in a million dollar home, you MUST have the room AND the money for your VERY OWN COPY MACHINE????!

Ok...just needed to get that off my chest... carry on...

Another Hailey Fan said...

Unlike many of you, I thought the interview with Hailey and Jon was touching and showed a level of respect and truthfulness that I never saw with Jon and Kate.

If Hailey was 32 and Jon was 42, I don't think anyone would think it was so odd that they would fall in love. Hailey seems to be, now and not in college (who was mature in college?), a mature and clear-thinking young woman. Jon is clearly immature for his age and circumstances. I think they reach a medium and if Jon could let the media go by for a while and just enjoy their relationship, they could have fun and harmony and love for quite a long time.

I am outraged at people like Perez Hilton, the skank "man" that he is, for going after Hailey. She clearly wrecked no home. That particular Gosselin home had been wrecked for years and years. She, Hailey, did not steal Jon away. That is ridiculous.

Kate is exactly the kind of woman and the kind of mother I detest. She finds no joy in either. In my humble opinion, Hailey and Jon deserve a shot. The kids could only benefit from that relationship.

Sissy said...

Jon said that he and Hailey should not have gone to France together. The paparazzi were there, to his surprise, and I do think he was honestly surprised.

Isn't it possible that TLC tipped the paparazzi that he would be there with "another woman."

TLC is just that sleezy and sneaky.

And yes, Jon should NOT have gone to France with Hailey. Jon was then and still is a married man.

GO AWAY said...

I find the kids cute but I am over saturated with Jon & Hailey and Kate & Steve. The entertainment magazines have finally stopped the flood of weekly articles but the entertainment TV shows are slow to drop this train wreck.

Jon and Kate, WE DON'T CARE anymore - GO AWAY - I am tired of seeing a nothing conversation turned in to a four episode special "breaking news" event.

Cheetah said...

Kate got the ticket on Oct. 29. The pictures on sosugary.com show her in California on Oct. 28. I believe that she frequently flies in and out of the Baltimore airport (perhaps because of convenience for Steve?), so she was probably returning home from the airport when she got the ticket. I doubt she had any children with her.

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