Are the Cameras Gone?


I just heard on Showbiz Tonight that they pulled the TLC cameras out of the Gosselin home today. I consider that a real success and cause for celebration. Now maybe if we go away and quit peering into the windows this family, they can work on their problems privately and redeem whatever is left of their children's childhood. I don't know how or why Jon came to his senses and pulled the plug on TLC, but I'm thankful he did.
From livnluv
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I'd heard a rumor earlier today that a moving van hauled all the production equipment from the house this morning. I hope it's true. Do you think that this is the end of filming the children?

Will TLC try a show with Kate alone?

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Kimmie said...

The sad thing is, these kids will still not have much of a life. There still will be the "P" Word around, to take pics of them everywhere they go. I feel for the kids, it is so sad.

Kat_momof3 said...

who knows... I hope and pray that it is.

I am not talking about a 1-hr documentary done once a year... I have nothing wrong with people doing occasional taping...

but I don't think these kids need to be pulling the kind of hours that go into a series... ask anyone in tv, reality or otherwise, and they'll tell you the hours are horrible.

These kids need time to just BE KIDS.

Tami said...

I hope it is done. Jon needs to STOP doing the publicity rounds and keep his mouth shut! Just read a parent dish interview and it was terrible. It made him sound so bad and childish. Please, Jon, stop! Don't go to the fence to talk to photographers, and when you do have your kids, do not go out and socialize. Stay with them the whole time!

He was saying he will not have them on Halloween, will not have them on Thanksgiving and will see them a couple hours on Christmas. WTH? Has the custody agreement changed or something?

mommytutres said...

Good, I hope this is true. I also hope one of the nitwits (aka: J&K) will put the poor kids in counseling. With the cameras gone, the kids will now have no sense of "normal" and feel like their world is completely out of control. I just hope they will have someone trying to help them navigate and understand the "new" normal of living in a house without being filmed. It is really sad to think of them alone with Kate and her tantrums. I'm sure they'll be worse without the production crew to keep her somewhat in check.

Harriet said...

I hope that if the children aren't filmed any more and the show is canceled, that the paparazzie will go away. If there is no show, the parents and even more so the kids will soon no longer be news.

They hauled it all off said...

Yes, a local here in Pa. showed a large van pulling up and Jon was there. TLC was only allowed to stay long enough to load up all the extensive equipment and haul it away, while Jon waited. Kate was not home.
TLC techs are supposedly moving on to other projects. They will not be returning there as far as they know. The judge will make sure of that. Jon said kids were very happy about it also, and smiling.

Once it settles down said...

I think now that its settling down and they kids are off the air it will all cool off with them. The kids were the draw, not Kate or Jon.

Rosie said...

Peace at last for the 8. Thank God.

Time for you all to go said...

Now the two of them have to get off their cell phones, stop making these ridiculous appearances and stay HOME and be parents again.
It can all go back to normal with NO MORE interviews. Just let it be and take its course.
Peace and calm.
Also the nanny goes, chef is already gone, housekeeper goes and all the other TLC paid for perks. Done and done.

Paps go too said...

The paps too, all of you go home. Nothing more to see there, its over. Let them have their lives back.

Willow #1 said...

Hooray for the kids, thanks to Jon. No matter what he is or isn't, at least it looks like this was due to his effort. I applaud him for that. Yeah kids!!! I hope things are better for you now. I saw the truck pulling out of the driveway on the news today and checked in to see if there was any news here. AT LAST!!!! I am so happy for the kids, I could cry. Its best for them, even if they don't realize it yet. Good for you Jon. Peace and Love.

Snerk said...

Thank goodness, the working days are over for the children.

Last summer a friend in the industry told me that if the number of viewers consistently fell below about two million an episode that TLC would have to cancel the show. He said that was the point where the show would become unprofitable for TLC. I guess the stars aligned at last for the children.

I'm much more inclined to think the children were glad to see the cameras go than that they were extremely upset about it.

Betty said...

Also the nanny goes, chef is already gone, housekeeper goes and all the other TLC paid for perks. Done and done.

I think we know now why those alleged crying fits of Kate lately. She found out all her hired help was being pulled and she's going to have to quit playing a mother on TV with tons of helpers and actually be a mother and do all that work she's claimed for years that she's been doing. It must be frightening.

Harriet said...

How many episodes are already filmed and will TLC burn them off?

ErinKate said...

If this was a normal family show, then I would agree to a once a year update. But because of all the ugly, sordid things the parents have been throwing around, I say let the kids walk away now when they have some chance of normalcy as they grow up. Let everyone forget they exist.

Honestly, I always felt that the show was basically ending with the 6 going off to school. I think this was always the plan for Kate to move on to the next phase of her "career". I never saw a new season starting. The kids were getting older and school really takes up too much time, especially with 8 kids, sports, etc. Besides Kate had stars in her eyes and there was no turning back for her.

Yeah, Right, No Big Deal said...

I guess, then, that this is old news but in the Oct. 12 issue of TIME magazine, in the "Verbatim" column, the quote from Eileen O'Neill, President and General Manager of cable network TLC, is:

'IT'S NOT A HUGE SHIFT.'

..."downplaying Jon Gosselin's decision to leave the reality show Jon & Kate Plus 8, which followed the Gosselins' lives as they raised eight young children. The couple announced their separation in June; a new version of the show, entitled Kate Plus Eight, will premiere Nov. 2."

Ms. O'Neill...truly?...not a huge shift to go from The Happy Family to Poor, Deprived Single Mom Kate?

Wow, sorry, I think it's a very big shift.

Huh said...

Yeah, Right, No Big Deal said...
"Ms. O'Neill...truly?...not a huge shift to go from The Happy Family to Poor, Deprived Single Mom Kate?

Wow, sorry, I think it's a very big shift."

*******

Wow, something is wrong with that woman. No wonder she loves Kate so much.

SuzieO said...

Paps go too said...

The paps too, all of you go home. Nothing more to see there, its over. Let them have their lives back.
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But I don't think J&K want their old lives back. They will do anything now to make money and they've already sold their souls. Kate will continue with her celebrity career but what will Jon do? I don't think the kids are safe. Especially now when the big paychecks have stopped and J&K are getting offers for deals from the devil. The kids aren't safe until there are laws to protect them.

livnluv said...

SuzieO said...
...But I don't think J&K want their old lives back. They will do anything now to make money and they've already sold their souls. Kate will continue with her celebrity career but what will Jon do? I don't think the kids are safe. Especially now when the big paychecks have stopped and J&K are getting offers for deals from the devil. The kids aren't safe until there are laws to protect them.

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Jon does not want his kids on TV. He's seen what it's done to them. He's been advised by Rabbi Shmuley to get the kids off the air. Following is only a portion of the Rabbi's statement:

by: Rabbi Shmuley
Children who Grow Up on Stage

Friday October 9, 2009

America continues to be gripped by Jon and Kate Gosselin whose marriage has now gone belly up and whose TV show seems to be following suit. After TLC informed Jon that he will no longer play a significant role in the show, he informed TLC that he is pulling the plug on his children’s participation. Many cried foul. Was this a form of perverse payback? Was he pulling his kids from the show for the right reasons or was it a selfish comeuppance?
For his part Jon says that he planned to pull his kids from the show way before TLC took their action and that his only consideration was the welfare of his kids.

My response: who cares? Does it matter what the motive is. Get the kids off the show. They don’t belong there as they suffer through the anguish of their parents divorce. And clearly someone here has to be the adult. And it seems to me that TLC, as a responsible broadcast network, has to understand that now that the Gosselins experiment in fame has ended in disaster it is time to give this family some alone time whether they want it or not. And that especially applies to vulnerable young children.

(Full disclosure. I spent a very brief time counseling Jon Gosselin to do exactly this. Get your kids off the show)....

chesterctymom said...

Now to be sure that the kids will receive all of their earnings...

SuzieO said...

I have a feeling that Jon is getting a lot of offers now and he is weak. I think he took money for the rights to exclusive information about his daughters birthday. If Kate had let them go outside to play then those who paid Jon would have gotten pictures too. If this is true then Jon has already sold the kids out.

I think that Jon no longer wanted TLC to film his kids because he was getting offers bigger then what he could get from TLC. His actions do not match what he says. He wants his kids to have a normal life, he wants them to have privacy and yet he talks to the media about the details of his daughters birthday. How is that giving them privacy?

I hope I'm wrong but his intentions should be clear in the next few weeks. The kids need to be protected by someone more then the parents.

tomo718 said...

What kind of documentary requires that much equipment that needs a truck to move it out? And why the hell is it there all the time??
That's scary and horrible for those kids. Did PA Child Labor laws finally catching up with TLC?

Mrs. Grinch will need needs meds and therapy to deal with that withdrawl.

As to Jon, he's becoming the male Paris Hilton and Kim K. All those nightclubs and special appearances he's making, that's his way to make money now.

Bubbles said...

JON'S decision to leave the reality show? Huh? TLC "minimized" his role, at least according to the statements made the day the sparkly new "Kate plus 8" title was revealed...

goawayfools said...

Fantastic. The kids will thank their father for this someday. I don't care how he came to his decision; I'm just happy that finally someone stood up for them.

And shame on TLC and the horrible Eileen O'Neill. They knew they had a weak, simple minded, soulless, greedy little rat on their hands with Kate Gosselin. All they had to do was dangle money in front of her and she would do anything for them, including humiliating and exploiting her own children.

Thank you Jon for ending the show. Now behave yourself, kerp quiet, and go hug those babies of yours; they need you now more than ever.

maggie said...

I am thrilled the kids are no longer going to be filmed. But in Houston, there are 3 hours of reruns each day of the Jon & Kate Plus 8 show. Therefore the kids are still on the TV screen for hours everyday. And how do we know how many more hours of filming have already been done and yet to appear later this month or on Kate Plus 8 on Nov. 2.

J&K are not going out of the public anytime soon--and I mean possibly years to come. (Read the article on ParentDish.com). Jon, IMO is becoming delusional(I WAS his biggest fan)and Kate has been. As long as they stay in the public, so will their kids. The kids will be on magazine covers, radonline, re-runs, DVD sales, TV tabloid shows, etc. And Jon (ParentDish) and Kate (her talk at one of her recent appearances) have both mentioned writing books. There will be book tours bring all back to life plus a lot more.

Jon and Kate think all the media buzz (magazine covers, Jay Leno show, Jon's TV tabloid shows, her TV appearances, pappazarri chasing them) is because they are loved and admired. I think the media buzz is because the great majority of people tune in (or read) to see what awful things they are going to say or do. They are not famous; they are infamous. They don't get it and never will because they are addicted to fame.

Lauren said...

Great news!

I'm shocked that TLC has so much equipment in the Gosselin house that they required a moving van to ship it out. That is crazy!

Not to be the killjoy but filming Kate and her 8 doesn't have to be at the house, they can take the show on location. We will just have to see what happens with the show next.

Im_in_PR said...

Lovethe8hateJandK said...

They aren't gone. Look at this article: http://news.lalate.com/2009/10/08/cara-and-mady-gosselin-live-stream/
They live streamed the twins birthday party. Jon and Kate allowed them too.
How sicker can these people get? Those poor girls can't even have a decent birthday party.


They didn't live stream the birthday party. You keep saying that but it is not true.

TMZ had a live feed from the road, and you saw absolutely nothing except the house.
"They," meaning Jon and Kate, had nothing to do with that.

I'm not trying to give either of them any credit for doing the right thing, if either one of them could have got money for streaming the party, I'm sure they would have.

But there was no live streaming of the birthday party.

Jenny said...

Mark my words...This woman will stop at nothing for FAME and FORTUNE. Childhood be damned. She will fight long and hard, but eventually I believe she will get those kids back onscreen someday.

livnluv said...

Jon has succeeded in getting the cameras out of the house. Congratulations! He deserves at least an 'attaboy. He stood up to TLC AND Kate and said NO MORE FILMING...and he succeeded. Jon is trying to take care of his kids and he's doing it alone. I, for one am sending him prayers, positive vibes and my support. He has very little backing out there from anyone else. I just don't get it! We can always find fault in anyone, but none of us are perfect... I hope the kids enjoy their new freedom. Their dad has effected their release from the bondage of a life of cameras and filming. He said there were big smiles on their faces to see the equipment go. Those kids must be sooo excited and I know I'm excited for them. I think it's time to give thanks. good-night folks.

livnluv said...

And shame on TLC and the horrible Eileen O'Neill. They knew they had a weak, simple minded, soulless, greedy little rat on their hands with Kate Gosselin. All they had to do was dangle money in front of her and she would do anything for them, including humiliating and exploiting her own children.
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I agree absolutely! Goliath may have just been slain. Let's hope so.

Now we need laws to prevent it from ever happening again.

enoughalready said...

I'm glad the cameras are gone.

I'll bet Mrs "mine all mine" is pooping in her pants because not too far away, maybe this property, the cars, the jetset lifestyle, the hire & fire help, the bodyguard/bag carrier, the free clothes, food, free trips, holidays, limos, etc will all be gone too. But the good news is they can't take her possum tail away, and they can't take her chest stuffing away.

These are lessons in life that perhaps Mrs Mine all mine need to be taught.

I have that funny feeling the pappzi will always be around but this time, she may not get the teflon protection from TLC and her other corporate siblings.

jenny said...

I'm not sure if anyone else has posted this yet since the comments are moderated and some may not have gone through but.... Jon Gosselin did an interview with Parentdish and here is what he said:

"Our Nielsons [ratings] are 11 million. That's like the population of Pennsylvania."

"Her and TLC. They don't like me because I want to pull my kids off TV. They made $186 million last quarter, $143 million of that from Jon & Kate Plus 8. [Editor's note: A TLC spokesperson declined to verify the numbers to ParentDish.]"

PD: "How much of that do you see?"
JG: "$25,000 per episode. It's awfully low. They locked in a contract and we're in the 50 percent tax bracket, so it's $12,500, so each of us gets $1,250 per episode. People think I make $75,000, $100,000 per episode. My kids sacrifice their privacy for this?"

LINK: http://www.parentdish.com/2009/10/09/jon-gosselin-loves-his-kids-his-girlfriend-and-the-jews/?icid=main|main|dl3|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.parentdish.com%2F2009%2F10%2F09%2Fjon-gosselin-loves-his-kids-his-girlfriend-and-the-jews%2F

Rosie5 said...

I wonder if all the perks are gone from TLC how much will fall on Cara and Mady... you know they just wanted to help mom because they could see how much she was "struggling". and we have all seen Kates meltdowns, I hope someone steps in to make sure these kids are safe and get the help that they need.

just wondering said...

So are we done here? Is Gosselins Without Pity finished? I really don't think we need to disect the divorce as it will be in the hands of the court from now on.

What else is there for us to do?

Rabbis Rock said...

So Rabbi Shmuley is the one that finally saved these kids?

What's next? said...

Now they need to get the kids in therapy. Then they need to let them do normal activities that other kids get to do. Many REALLY need to be involved in some kind of sport so that all of that extra energy will be viewed as a positive. They need to learn to work with other children outside of their family. And of course, some need speech therapy.

HBailey said...

After watching Jon's interview on LKL, I have wondered if J&K are actually "on the same page" in regards to getting the show off the air and their commitment to TLC and the show severed.

I say this because of Jon's attorney's talk about the kids not being paid and how much money TLC made in a quarter. He kept referring to the kids not being paid and implying that TLC owes the children a lot of money.

I have to wonder if J&K have conspired together to get even more money from TLC by:

1. revealing how much TLC made in a quarter

2. exposing how little the family made from TLC ($22,500 an episode is considerably less than has been rumored and frankly, a drop in the bucket compared to how much TLC has made off of the family)

3. suggesting the kids have not been paid

I may be giving these two entirely too much credit for even thinking of something like this, but just 5 years ago they were a nobody-ever-heard-of family in PA and look where they are now. They may not be the most pleasant or even brightest people in the world, but they did manage to con a whole lot of people to this point.

My guess is TLC would likely settle this issue out of court because it would/could have a domino effect on their other shows, and they know reaching a monetary agreement in this matter with Gosselins would be a bargain given that these two can be bought/paid off rather inexpensively.

It's just a theory and something I've wondered ever since seeing Jon on LKL. I could be way off base and I base this on nothing more than a hunch. But...I would not put it past these two at all.

I am glad the show has been pulled (for now) and that the children are (for now) off TV.

NoUse4Kate said...

I hope this is true, then I will be done following them. It is what we hoped for and may it truly be. I hope the children get the support, the therapy and the LOVE that the so need and without a doubt deserve.

chesterctymom said...

Rabbis Rock said...

So Rabbi Shmuley is the one that finally saved these kids?

I called Rabbi Shmuley!!! Hopefully they weren't filmed for his new show...

ManicNarcissism said...

Blogger just wondering said...

So are we done here? Is Gosselins Without Pity finished? I really don't think we need to disect the divorce as it will be in the hands of the court from now on.

What else is there for us to do?

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1. Make sure it sticks. I'm giving it about a 65% chance that it is really over.

2. When we know it is dead for sure, then maybe the noble good hearted people that were here solely for the welfare of the children can leave and those that were 20% here for the children and 80% here for the snark can stay. I'm in that group.

3. Then I will wait patiently for the day that Kate is done. I'm 100% looking forward to that day.

:)

Come and Get Your Popcorn said...

Great...now they need to get an injunction against the paps meet and greet at the bus stop. It is truly getting out of hand. I am sure any judge in the country would sign off on that because it is a bus stop. My kids would be scared and embarrassed.

The perks are gone said...

It was mentioned here locally (Pa.) from people that knew Kate, that all of the TLC perks are indeed drying up. Anything that came with the show (all the freebees and extra people and services that she was allotted have come to a halt). She is on her own now to come up with her income. She and Jon. I don't think he will be having the NYC condo much longer either, but he said he does not care, he told them "so take it, but get lost."

Welcome to the real world said...

Kate was mearly a puppet on a string for TLC. She's not bright to begin with, but she certainly misused what she was given and thought that it was all because of her and it would last forever. Now she can find her OWN way. Kate try being nasty to merchants and locals NOW and see what happens. No one will care, you can live like the rest of us. You get nasty to someone and they will treat you that way back. Welcome to the real world that you abused.

worriedinsc said...

I truly hope someone in authority will monitor Kate while she is with her kids.

To lose her show, all the control, perks and money, i believe those children are in real danger.

She had 8 dollar signs, now she has 8 kids who she clearly as we have all seen is not a good parent to.
And.....im using the word parent very lightly.
she has never really been a mother, she only played one ( badly) on television.
Seriously.....since Jon is no longer around, who will she take her rage out on?

MickeyMcKean said...

just wondering said...
So are we done here? Is Gosselins Without Pity finished? I really don't think we need to disect the divorce as it will be in the hands of the court from now on.

What else is there for us to do?

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Just because a truck showed up to pick up TLC's equipment does not mean that they will not bring all of it back if Kate and her attorneys fight Jon in court to continue filming. However, since the ratings had been dropping for weeks, it is a possibility that TLC informed Kate that they were canceling the show and if so, there will be no need to make this an issue in court.

In either case, IMHO the Gosselin dust storm has not even begun to settle.

chellt said...

I think we are still being duped... THe ratings are down, the kids are in school, and Kate's solo show is not being well recieved... TLC wanted out and Jon all of the sudden wants the kids off of TV?? Hhmmm...Sounds to me that they didn't want to admit failure so they created more drama...Either way, stick a fork in them- they're done :)

Anonymous said...

OH MY GOSH...
No Steve,her big brother,what is she going to now?
I went to Walmart yesterday and ask about Kate's line of clothing and the woman didn't know anything about it than she got someone else and they to had know idea. Ikept on saying Kate Gosselin you know Jon and Kate plus 8,these ladies had know clue who she was or about the line. Geez even in her hometown.

KittyKat said...

just wondering said...

So are we done here? Is Gosselins Without Pity finished? I really don't think we need to disect the divorce as it will be in the hands of the court from now on.

What else is there for us to do?


Dissect the divorce, naturally.

I don't think it's quite over yet.

livnluv said...

Rabbis Rock said...
So Rabbi Shmuley is the one that finally saved these kids?
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Jon, Kate and Eileen O'Neill were the three people that could directly stop the filming. You decide.

Tara said...

IMO, Jon only told TLC that they couldn't film after he realized that he would be losing a lot of his income once he was dropped. He goes on and on about how he wants off the show, but he never really does anything. It's annoying. HE had to be dropped, he never quit. I just don't believe much of anything that he says.

However, I'm glad that the cameras were taken from the house, no matter the motives. Those poor kids need to know what it's like to have a normal childhood. I just hope that they aren't scarred for life.

livnluv said...

Jenny said...
Mark my words...This woman will stop at nothing for FAME and FORTUNE. Childhood be damned. She will fight long and hard, but eventually I believe she will get those kids back onscreen someday.
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Not if we can get laws passed to prevent it.

Suzi said...

HBailey said...

I have to wonder if J&K have conspired together to get even more money from TLC... (edited for space)
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I bet TLC and the Gosselins are negotiating some kind of "severance" pay as we speak. I am disappointed that TLC has let itself get so involved with the childish antics of both Jon & Kate, but I have a hard time thinking Jon & Kate weren't treated fairly in terms of pay. When TLC did the show it was a huge unknown and the risk was factored into the pay. Also, Jon just said the $22,500 was per episode last year, so this year could be more, and that doesn't include all the expenses TLC pays. Just my opinion!

franky said...

just wondering said...

So are we done here? Is Gosselins Without Pity finished? I really don't think we need to disect the divorce as it will be in the hands of the court from now on.

What else is there for us to do?
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I for one hope that the focus of this great blog will eventually shift and we can all stay in touch, I feel like I know many of you, and having fought the same battle, I am sure we can find other common ground to discuss, in the respectful manner to which I have become accustomed to =)(without evil cackle and reverse possum-roadkill head)

btw..thanks to host..you have really been "top-notch"... I admire and respect your dedication and stance,time and heart given, and the unwavering fight for those children's rights..may the 8 live long and tabloid-free in private.

livnluv said...

.....I think the media buzz is because the great majority of people tune in (or read) to see what awful things they are going to say or do. They are not famous; they are infamous. They don't get it and never will because they are addicted to fame.

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Conversely, if the great majority of people didn't tune in or read, there would be no media buzz. You can't wipe the slate clean from reruns, but the children can go forward with day-to-day lives camera free, ONLY if WE go away.

Mikemom said...

Baby steps, but thank God the cameras are gone. Now if we can get the "adults to shut up", this will all go away. Fight your battles in court, behind closed doors. Hopefully the court will put a gag order on these two.....

Joyhawk said...

Quoted up thread from Parentdish.com:

PD: "How much of that do you see?"
JG: "$25,000 per episode. It's awfully low. They locked in a contract and we're in the 50 percent tax bracket, so it's $12,500, so each of us gets $1,250 per episode. People think I make $75,000, $100,000 per episode. My kids sacrifice their privacy for this?"

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I'm not following his math: how does netting $12,500/episode after taxes work out to "$1,250 each"?

Hopefully, the rest of the money is/was automatically being invested into the children's accounts!

Ohio Buckeye said...

I've seen clips of K8 emphatically stating that there will never be a holiday that she is not with her children.

My question is: why is she so special that the usual parameters of custody agreements do not apply to her?

For parents who do not get along to an extent they can share time jointly with their kids (the majority - why else would they be divorcing in the first place?) - splitting holidays is a simple and relatively unavoidable reality of divorce.

Since J&K were unable to get along in the BEST of days even during their 'happy' marriage, the only surprise in their whole divorce situation was their ridiculous plan to have a common house where they'd take turns 'visiting' the children. And if K8 was to believed (not usually), J&K were to jointly celebrate all holidays with the kids. Do these people even understand the concept of REALITY?

So, now that the mendacity has hit the fan, WHY should one parent hog all special days while the other parent gets the remaining, unwanted crumbs of visitation rights?

ZipItJon&Kate said...

Hopefully the Court will put a gag order on these two for the sake of the kids, because neither one seems interested on how this is affecting their kids.

junebug said...

Ask and ye shall receive! On principle, I don't believe I will ever watch anything on TLC again. No big loss there.

Mady, Cara, Aaden,Collin, Alexis, Leah, Joel, and Hannah enjoy your childhood!

ZipItJon&Kate said...

They are not famous; they are infamous. They don't get it and never will because they are addicted to fame.
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I agree Maggie.

Kris said...

Something interesting I just noticed this morning:

While going through the TLC channel programming for the whole weekend there is not one re-run of Jon & Kate plus 8. Not one

This is the first time I can remember that the show hasn't been on once over a weekend.

There goes their residual money (payment for re-runs shown)..

Love it. Absolutely love it!

ATL housewife said...

Tami, maybe Jon will have the kids for Hanukkah and Passover. Also, this is great that the cameras and crew are out of the house. Now the children can have real friends their own age.

Mary said...

Long time follower, first time posting.
I hope that everyone on this site will go over to the Minor Consideration site and support Mr. Peterson's efforts to get state and federal legislation passed that will keep all children in the entertainment industry safe and protect the money they earn.
The outcry of concern expressed on this site must not stop until all children are protected in every state are protected from greedy television/film executives and foolish,greedy misguided parents.
Write your state representatives to make sure that children are protected in your state. Support groups like Abuse Watch and A Minor Consideration.
There is still alot of work to be done to prevent this from happening to other children.

Midnight Serenade said...

"I'm shocked that TLC has so much equipment in the Gosselin house that they required a moving van to ship it out. That is crazy!"

How can this be? Wait a minute, this almost sounds like this was a permanent film set! Nah, couldn't have been. It was only a documentary!

Lucy said...

Great news that the TLC equipment is gone but I doubt Khate will take this lying down. She's made sure a pap took a picture of her left hand showing no wedding ring on it now. She'll do anything to stay in the media "glow" including trying to figure out how to continue to make money off of her little "ATMs".

No Drama Mama said...

This isn't over. Jon's actions over the past 2 weeks have me convinced he is scared now that he bit the hand that has fed him.... The cameras will be back. The kids will continue to be exploited. Why? Because mom and dad have famewhored themselves to the point where they cannot get jobs in the REAL world.

nanasez said...

IMO, Jon only told TLC that they couldn't film after he realized that he would be losing a lot of his income once he was dropped.
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Jon wasn't losing any income. He wasn't paid separately from the family. It's a per episode payment to the parents for the family. At this point, with the accounts joint and the house jointly owned, Jon and Kate have equal right to the monies. How that would money would have been divided up post divorce was for the courts to decide.

livnluv said...

I'm not following his math: how does netting $12,500/episode after taxes work out to "$1,250 each"?

Hopefully, the rest of the money is/was automatically being invested into the children's accounts!
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$1,250 divided by 10 people.

Its an addiction said...

Fame is a drug. When people are addicted like this family, they need an intervention, just like for drugs or alcohol. No different.

Done for me said...

I will NEVER, I repeat NEVER watch one single thing on TLC. Done.

Rosie said...

All of you on GWOP have been awesome. Thank you, all of you, for following this to the end.
Good people, you are.

She pushed till the end said...

Like we all said (and Jon) season five should have never started. We all suspected the show had run its course, but Kate in her greedy way, had to keep pushing...until this, the end.

nanasez said...

I'm not following his math: how does netting $12,500/episode after taxes work out to "$1,250 each"?
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He's implying that 8/10 of the money from the show was invested for the kids. But I don't see how that would possible. If their living expenses are $15000 monthly (not including tuition, home repairs, and clothing for the children), they couldn't have possibly covered all of their expenses out of Jon and Kate's 2/10 cut from the show proceeds. That $200,000 a year would have left only $20,000 for tuition for eight children, clothing, and repairs to the homes.

And I don't see how $15,000 a month covers their living expenses if they have $10,000 a month in mortgages, food, utility bills (which have to be huge on that house), babysitters, gasoline, car payments, etc. I also don't see how they'd have been able to come up with almost a half million dollar down payment on the mansion if they'd been putting 8/10 of the show money into accounts for the kids. With only a little over 100 episodes filmed, their show income would supposedly work out to be less than $150,000 per person over the past three to four years.

No wonder Kate was such a fiend about appearances, books, and book signings. After all the promises to the kids that the show would mean both parents could be at home with them, no one out working, Kate needed all of that outside income to create the elaborate lifestyle they've "moved up" into. All of this and the kids have less than $150,000 each for their "future"?

I have a feeling these people will have to be seriously downsizing in the near future - or else they'll be broke again.

SuzieO said...

VIDEO! Watch online the live streaming video of Cara and Mady Gosselin’s birthday as Jon confronts Kate from Entertainment Tonight. Cara and Mady Gosselin’s birthday party will be delivered via a live stream on Thursday courtesy of ET.

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Is there some reason this is being ignored? This was copied from the link provided above:

http://news.lalate.com/2009/10/08/cara-and-mady-gosselin-live-stream/

If this is true then how can anyone think that the kids are not going to be filmed in the future or that the parents, including Jon, are not holding out for money from other sources? ET made a deal with Jon for the exclusive story of the kids birthday. How is that giving the kids their privacy??

Btw, the equipment at the house was moved using regular vans not moving vans.

Annies said...

Cameras are gone but Jon will soon have hell to pay from Kate and her lawyers in the form of destroying him financially with her TLC cash cow gone. I live in the area and Pennsylvania law sides with the Mom. My poor deceased husband was an amputee and stroke victim and on disability limited income and had to pay about $1200 a month spousal support plus child support. We couldn't afford his meds, tried to get the support modified to no avail. I blame a good apart of his passing on the financial and emotional distress. In his former marriage he had an affair and she did later but PA law just with the infidelty alone, slammed him in the divorce property and support division. Jon is in big trouble plus he has a lousy lawyer.

High Road Faker said...

Can someone please provide a link to the news story about the TLC equipment being hauled away? I haven't seen or heard anything about that other than what I've read here... Thanks!

Suzi said...

Ohio Buckeye said...

I've seen clips of K8 emphatically stating that there will never be a holiday that she is not with her children.

My question is: why is she so special that the usual parameters of custody agreements do not apply to her?

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Thank you for commenting on this! When I first heard Kate make that comment, it would obvious everyone thought that made her wonderful. She then went on about how sharing the house is all for the kids, etc...

To me, all this says is that those children will never have a stress-free holiday or custody exchange. My ex-husband and I do a great job with joint custody of my older son and one thing I know is this: kids really don't place the importance on holidays that adults often do. A day is just a day and if they know their parents are healthy, happy and get along and they are loved they really don't care who is there on the 4th of July. IMO, the Gosselins' custody agreement is by adults for adults.

f8k8 said...

I'm not following his math: how does netting $12,500/episode after taxes work out to "$1,250 each"?

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Um, do the math.

12,500 / 10 = 1,250.

8 kids + 2 parents = 10.

Brummygirl said...

This is so wonderful for the kids, go play in your *back* yard, run amok, crayon, no one is watching you now, except at the bus stop, but that will stop soon I am sure.
The one thing which will not stop, is Kate's constant reaching for stardom.
I am not sure it is totally a good thing the kids are left just with her in her present emotional state. I wish the court case would hurry up so there is some intervention for the children.
Hopefully Jon's parents will provide some semblance of normality for them.
I do not think it is all over yet.

MickeyMcKean said...

Bubbles said...
JON'S decision to leave the reality show? Huh? TLC "minimized" his role, at least according to the statements made the day the sparkly new "Kate plus 8" title was revealed...

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One more time:

Jon said on LKL he wanted to pull the kids off the air for weeks and he and his attorney have the documents to back it up ...

Then it was announced that Jon was going to appear on LKL ...

Tuesday - 2 days before LKL - TLC "minimizes" Jon's role ...

Jon tells LK that TLC knew he was coming on his show to announce he wanted his kids off TV and that Jon OR Kate had the right to do so and that Jon was exercising said right.

The timing only looks like Jon retaliated when from my point of view, TLC retaliated first when they could not neck rein Jon from going on LKL to state he wanted his kids off TV.

In any case, TLC picked up their crap. I personally don't care if TLC dropped the show due to low ratings or if TLC figured out that Jon was serious and was not going to allow filming of his children to continue. The show is over.

Rose said...

It would be great news if the cameras and miscellaneous film equipment was removed, but I can't find anything online to verify it. Does anybody have a link to any stories about this?

ManicNarcissism said...

Joyhawk,

Concerning Jon's math - I believe he is dividing $12,500 amongst 10 people.

Tired of KON said...

Not to rain on this parade - but I think TLC will continue filming this show, just not at the home. They will pick states that have no child-labor laws, fly the family in, shoot an ep and then go before anyone can ask WTH they were doing.

They have already done this with focusing the shows on one set of the kids or the other. They will say, "see we are not filming them all at the same time; neither are we filminga their home."

I hope it means the end... but I am not so sure.

Over Yet? said...

just wondering said...

So are we done here? Is Gosselins Without Pity finished? I really don't think we need to disect the divorce as it will be in the hands of the court from now on.

What else is there for us to do?
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There is plenty to do!

The first is to work on child labor laws to prevent this from happening again. There should be NATIONAL laws like the ones in California that protect children in the film industry

Next is to make sure that the PA labor dept actually follows through their investigation and doesn't let it sit on a desk forever.

Then you can support Minor Consideration in their efforts to bring issues to light.

There are still children on reality TV...this should not be allowed without Social Worker, Guardian Ad lits, and other assurances that EACH and EVERY child's mental, emotional and financial well being is being taken care of. (Just because it doesn't look like the Gosselin's train wreck doesn't mean damage is not being done to innocent children)

Personally, I have been through a nasty divorce and do NOT need to follow the Gosselins to relive that. But I do care about child rights so, No, it is not over yet.

muchsamrtermom said...

I just want to add that Kate is going to melt down--in public--sometime. It is only a matter of time. Her "disorder" won't allow her continue this fake, positive, outwards appearance much longer.
My fear is that now left alone in that house without "crew" watching the children could be harmed even more by "crazy mommy dearest"
Hope Aunt Jodi and Uncle Kevin have a plan in place for protecting those kids.

We're All Wondering said...

just wondering said...
So are we done here? Is Gosselins Without Pity finished? I really don't think we need to disect the divorce as it will be in the hands of the court from now on.

What else is there for us to do?
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Hi, just wondering. You've gotten a lot of responses to your comment. I had been wondering the same thing you were, as I believe one of the mods once posted that if the show went off the air, so would GWOP off the web.

I think it's too early to tell. Something about all the recent Gosselin developments seems unfinished and tentative. Maybe it's that we just can't believe that cameras are really out of the kids' lives. Gotta give it a little time yet.

FAME, Remember My Name said...

maggie: "They are not famous; they are infamous. They don't get it and never will because they are addicted to fame."
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Rosie O'Donnell has written a lot about fame and she says it's a drug; but haven't we also seen, with celebs or other famous figures, that fame can also be fleeting? It seems to take a lot to sustain it and the public is fickle. We just go on to the next story. Right now, Letterman's right up there with Jon and Kate. Who will it be tomorrow? With technology and appetite, the machine is endlessly fed.

marypoppins said...

Lucy said...
Great news that the TLC equipment is gone but I doubt Khate will take this lying down. She's made sure a pap took a picture of her left hand showing no wedding ring on it now.
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Didnt see this. She didnt take the ring off when she and jon parted ways.
But she took the ring off when tlc left?

Anne said...

"I'm shocked that TLC has so much equipment in the Gosselin house that they required a moving van to ship it out. That is crazy!"

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Perhaps that's why the Elizabethtown house felt so "small" to them.

karmascominforya said...

Betty said...
Also the nanny goes, chef is already gone, housekeeper goes and all the other TLC paid for perks. Done and done.

I think we know now why those alleged crying fits of Kate lately. She found out all her hired help was being pulled and she's going to have to quit playing a mother on TV with tons of helpers and actually be a mother and do all that work she's claimed for years that she's been doing. It must be frightening
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ha! loved it! lol and based on what they make -12,500 after taxes- they were living off of the TLC perks. tlc paid for

-food/chef
-nannies
-bodyguard
-clothes
-advertisers made up the household perks
-etc

so... as youc an see, they can not live in a house with a large mortgage, pay the etown mortgage, pay for the new cars, pay tuition, pay utilities, pay for food, clothes, etc...

they were making it on the perks it seems.

i know it seems like a lot of money but een if they make $300,000/yr in fees, appearances and royalties....

$300k wont last long when kates in charge of finances. its not much money when you consider what they spend and how theyve chosen to live.

its that curse of greed, 'new money', and just plain stupidity.

oh- and a bit of karma, too.

Edward Bernays said...

IMO, Jon only told TLC that they couldn't film after he realized that he would be losing a lot of his income once he was dropped.

Incorrect. Jon was getting paid whether he filmed or not. He still had a contract.

Denise said...

If Kate has lost all her help, she probably regrets putting the tups in 3 day a week KG!!
She was planning on filming on Tuesday and Thursday and now she gets to be a "mom" instead!

Wonder if they will be reevaluated for 5 day a week KG??

NDmom said...

Too bad Jon and Kate didn't live a conservative life and bank their money instead of blowing it on a huge house and other things. I realize that much of what they have they received from TLC, but there must be other extravagant things they purchased with the money they were paid...maybe a fancy vehicle or two, the fancy wedding ring, the expensive clothes?? Anyway, if they had been careful with their money and invested it wisely, they probably could have lived comfortably for quite some time without having to worry about money while at the same time banked plenty of money for each of their kids.

We know they had some pretty significant income from they show, the speaking that they did as well as the love offereings along with the money they made on the silly book that Beth wrote. Like fools, they thought the gravy train would never end. I guess that you can't expect uneducated, shallow people to be wise with money.

My heart still aches for the kids.

NoUse4kate said...

Suzie O said...

Is there some reason this is being ignored? This was copied from the link provided above:



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It's just an article saying what Radar did. Just because 100 places report it doesn't make it so. The party was not filmed by the evil Jon like some want you to believe. This has already been covered quite a few times as to what actually happened.

BTW when I went to that site earlier, one of their pop ups tried to download a virus or something, I shut my computer completely down to stop it because it would not let me close it. Be careful with that link.

livnluv said...

Tired of KON said...
Not to rain on this parade - but I think TLC will continue filming this show, just not at the home. They will pick states that have no child-labor laws, fly the family in, shoot an ep and then go before anyone can ask WTH they were doing.

They have already done this with focusing the shows on one set of the kids or the other. They will say, "see we are not filming them all at the same time; neither are we filminga their home."

I hope it means the end... but I am not so sure.
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Jon has stopped the filming no matter where the location is. It seems he has the right to do so or TLC wouldn't be backing off. He said he would continue to fight TLC if necessary and I don't think he'll back down from that fight for any reason.

wramblinwreck said...

"I bet TLC and the Gosselins are negotiating some kind of "severance" pay as we speak."

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TLC may have decided to cut its losses and make a settlement with the Gosselins because they don't want to get mired in the court battle about continuing the show, or charges from the Gosselins about compensation for the kids. Litigation is expensive, and the longer it goes on, the bigger the price tag. They don't want the negative publicity associated with either of those charges, and the easiest way for them to avoid it is pay off the Gosselins, take their stuff and go home.

Suzi said...

Tired of Kon said...

Not to rain on this parade - but I think TLC will continue filming this show, just not at the home. They will pick states that have no child-labor laws, fly the family in, shoot an ep and then go before anyone can ask WTH they were doing.

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Maybe I'm just feeling optimistic, but at this point I think the jig really is up. I'm sure Eileen O'Neill (sp??) would like nothing more than to sweep this all under the rug, but with the extent of the recent bad publicity for both Jon and Kate, there have to be scores of TLC executives, shareholders, advertisers and lawyers breathing fire about the potential complications of continuing to air this nasty mess.

I really think we're going to soon hear from TLC that it has dropped the Gosselin family and is putting all remaining payments from the Season 5 contract into a trust for the children.

Again, maybe I'm just being an optimist... :)

Lucy said...

marypoppins said: Didnt see this. She didnt take the ring off when she and jon parted ways.
But she took the ring off when tlc left?
Check Radaronline. Khate took the ring off yesterday and posed in her van with her finger showing (like that's a normal thing to do). OMG just a thought! If TLC isn't paying for anything anymore...what about Stevie the (cough, cough, bullsh**t) paid bodyguard? Will she never see him anymore? Awww poor Katie!

5 days of school said...

Denise, its funny you should mention 3 day school for the tups. There is talk in town that Kate is reconsidering sending them for 5 days a week now, "when she can work it out"
The 3 days WAS for shooting the show. I knew it.

Hope her memories last said...

I recently inquired about a week long trip to Hawaii. For a family of 10, with airfare and lodging, food, boat trips and entertainment...$30,000!! and that's on the conservative side. I hope Kate's memories will be enough for her, once she needs to pay her own way with two homes and 6 vehicles, a place in Utah, and Maryland, and how about her own families food, no chef.

It was filmed said...

Rose, yes it was filmed (the large moving van from TLC) and the neighbors on their street also confirmed it, as well as Jon in an interview yesterday. All the TLC equip. was removed while Jon supervised.

fidosmommy said...

If only this blog allowed for huge, colored letters.....

H.A.L.L.E.L.U.J.A.H.!

Happy birthday, Cara and Mady. You two just received the best gift ever.

Have a happy life, girls.

Midnight Serenade said...

Does this mean that TLC won't have to change its website to "Kate Plus Eight" in November??!!

sean said...

Aren't some of you getting ahead of yourselves? Or did I miss something and TLC has dropped the show? I think until there is an actual press release saying that TLC for whatever reason has dropped the show this is just wishful thinking.

what do you think? said...

maybe 'im in PR' could chime in here...

...wouldnt it be in TLC's best interest to walk away from this train wreck and never look back?

as in never film them again? i mean there is so much negative press around them now... and people are starting to see that TLC is the root of the problem and just taking advantage of this family...

wouldnt it be smarter for them to just walk away and hope that the public looks at them as the ones who left that hot mess of a family???

Stevie went home said...

AND no more Steve, unless Kate comes up with the $1,600 a day on her own. He's done as far as TLC is concerned. ET said TLC has indeed pulled ALL the perks including Steve.

LiesInWailea said...

I agree, "the jig is up". TLC is going to cut their losses and run as fast as they can, whatever it takes. They know that they are dealing with a 'loose cannon' in Khate. She will turn on them just as she did her own family, friends, etc. in a heartbeat. Litigation is very pricey let alone the bad press for TLC. I can just imagine ten seperate cases filed against TLC. KON's recollection of the past 5 years will do a 180 if they aren't in 'agreeance' with TLC's settlement. I also agree that if all the TLC perks are taken away and Khate has to resume to 'real life', cold turkey, she will totally lose it. It won't be long......

jasmine said...

If TLC removed all their equipment, then I would think they are finished filming. I can't believe a family court judge would rule in favor of the children needing to work to support their family and the parents' lifestyles.

The judge should also put a gag order on both of them. So Jon's embraced Judaism, but didn't mention the good, kind Christians who helped to support his family. His comment regarding TLC having enough film for another 4 or 5 seasons indicates how much filming was really taking place. I wonder if TLC will piece together some of the old film with newer footage to drag out the show.

f8k8 said...

TLC should send send Jon a thank you package. And a check for $5 million.

Jon just saved TLC millions of dollars and saved TLC from embarrassing itself any further. I mean this was a show that was going to be canceled the 1st day it airs. (Kate +8).

Anyone see the last episode of Kate +8? LOL. It was horrible. Screeching, bossing, yelling, it was bad. Kate has no sense of humor. She didn't do anything with the kids, she ignored the boys but found all the "old" toys for her girls.

TLC finally realized that the show is tanking fast. Even after the 1 week of free advertising by Jon and Kate bashing each other, the J/Kate +8 show only got 1.7 million viewers.

Imagine if they did go with Kate +8 in November.... lol

Jon did make a mistake. She should have allowed Kate +8 to continue and then laugh it up when it tanks the very next day it airs.

AZ mom said...

Just wondering....If Kate took off the wedding ring from Hawaii when TLC removed all the equiment, could it be that it was owned by TLC and they took it back?

Ravello said...

Too soon to get excited. I cannot find anything from TLC or the KONS that filming is officially suspended. I pray it is over and that Jon and Kate go back under that rock they crawled out of. 15 minutes should be up.

fidosmommy said...

sean said...
Aren't some of you getting ahead of yourselves? Or did I miss something and TLC has dropped the show? I think until there is an actual press release saying that TLC for whatever reason has dropped the show this is just wishful thinking.

*****

You're right, Sean. I'm afraid all we're seeing is TLC moving out of the house for whatever reason.
There are still more episodes to come, so be expecting to see scenes from Dollywood, Mt. Rushmore, the Grand Canyon and
Aruba. Maybe Alexis will get her own live aldergator to live in the bathtub in Bathroom #6. And we haven't seen the kids going to an eye appointment in a year or more, so wipe off your specs, get out the toothpicks and get ready for that.

But even so, I am thrilled to know that filming will not be done to any extent in the house so the children can have an actual camera free zone to call home. It's step one to getting them liberated altogether.

I have seen nothing anywhere about the show being cancelled, although I do have my fingers crossed as I type.....

MomofFour said...

So I wonder how much money a tabloid would give to have a secret video of Kate having a meltdown and/or going off on Jon or one of the kids? Is that legal? If Jon got a video of Kate to demonstrate her Dr. Jekyl Dr. Hyde personality wouldn't that pretty much guarantee his case? Do you think TLC has one? I bet they do. Could he sue them for it?

Anonymous said...

Jon didn't do this for his kids! He did this so the judge would favor him. Even with TLC gone the money that "has been set aside" for the kids will have to be "managed" by a parent or court appointed trust. So IMO "Jon" has come to the conclusion that removing the cameras will put him in a more favorable light. Jon is still being controlled only this time its not by Kate. The parentdish article made him sound all of 14yrs old.

TandLMommy28 said...

I am so hopeful that this is really IT. What a wonderful thing for these children. And I can't help but think that by participating in this site that created much buzz about the problems for the Gosselin children has helped in some small way to win them their freedom.

Go outside, kids. Breathe in deeply and smell the cool, crisp fall air. Do you smell that? It's called freedom and childhood. Soak it all up!

Come and Get Your Popcorn said...

Maybe TLC watched the Soup like I did and heard the "murderous cries" from one of the children upstairs and Kate tried to talk over it and didn't blink an eye. It was an horrendous cry. The clips they showed of the show were just awful. Kate making faces at the camera about the work the organizers did. She was so rude to them. I did not watch the show and was appalled at that clip, as anyone would have been. I am so glad it is over, but unfortunately, I am even more sad for the kids now, because I am afraid she will lay a horrible guilt trip on them and there will be no one there to stand by the kids. Bittersweet ending. I will miss the kids. They had such a good start in life and I used to think how lucky they were to have such a devoted mom. It must be a tremendous loss for them because I honestly think she did start off that way, but just got lost in the celebrity, and started to believe her own press when it was good. Thank goodness they have Jon. I wish them all the best.

mom of 3 said...

Jon did a great job.

If Kate gets her own show on TLC, Jon can demand that his children should NOT have appearance on show. He can also request TLC not to use the kids' photos and videos for Kate's show.

Frankly, I don't like the idea of Kate having her own show on TLC either. As long as this evil woman is on TV, she will always trash her ex husband and talk about her kids' private moments. She is so trashy. She will do anything she can to stay in spotlight and grab headlines. Even if that means putting her dirty laundry on air. She doesn't care it's fame or infamy. The kids will never have peace and privacy.

TLC is rubbish said...

Imagine that! I bet all these TLC staffers come on message boards and forums to attack Jon. Jon gets his kids' childhood and normalcy back means TLC staffers lose their gigs. Of course they will revenge Jon online.

Suzi said...

fidosmommy said...

There are still more episodes to come, so be expecting to see scenes from Dollywood, Mt. Rushmore, the Grand Canyon and
Aruba. Maybe Alexis will get her own live aldergator to live in the bathtub in Bathroom #6. And we haven't seen the kids going to an eye appointment in a year or more, so wipe off your specs, get out the toothpicks and get ready for that.
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What we DO know for sure is that ratings are steadily way down and have been in the 1.3-1.7 million range for the past several weeks. Advertisers are savvy and will not be wasting their marketing dollars, especially not in this economy. It just doesn't make sense to me from a business standpoint to spend more to produce a show that is bringing in less.

Also, I think we've all come to think of TLC as in love with Kate. They probably did a lot of hand-holding and ego stroking when she was their cash cow, but at this point she has to be a major distraction from their everyday business of producing cable television.

shoka said...

I don't blame Jon telling the media about the birthday drama - Kate wanted to change the custody agreement by herself (not approved by any judge)and limited Jon to stay only 2 hours.

How else could Jon stay longer than 2 hours? We all know Jon is not a person who uses force. If Kate is kicking him out with a broom, he is not going to fight that filthy cow. The only way he could do was to let the media know Kate was messing with the birthday. Kate had to comply the original custody agreement in order not to stir public outrage for ruining the twins' birthday.

The custody agreement clearly indicates both parents can be at the birthday until bedtime.

Sources say the happy birthday turned very unhappy that night. Mady cried when Jon had to leave. He had to leave because he wasn't allowed to stay overnight.

Mona said...

If the rumors are true about the show ending soon, I guess we'll be seeing Kate digging in the trash for those Playboy offers.

enoughalready said...

I honestly believe that the children, instead of coming out the victor in all this, may be worse off especialy with Kate's un-monitored interaction with the children. I feel she will not only shower them with her "hate" but she could also totally cut them off emotionally like how she behaves with others of no use to her.

livnluv said...

Anonymous said...
Jon didn't do this for his kids! He did this so the judge would favor him. Even with TLC gone the money that "has been set aside" for the kids will have to be "managed" by a parent or court appointed trust. So IMO "Jon" has come to the conclusion that removing the cameras will put him in a more favorable light. Jon is still being controlled only this time its not by Kate. The parentdish article made him sound all of 14yrs old.
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IMO, I respectfully disagree. Jon did this because he loves his children. I don't know why that's so hard for people to believe. Jon has always been the nurturer, caregiver, diaper changer, bath giver, the playmate, the one to tuck them in, etc. etc. Not to mention he took 2 years off to be the Mr. Mom. I don't know a lot of "mature" older men that would have been as dedicated to their children. Sorry, but it aggravates me to no end to hear someone say Jon didn't do this for his kids.

livnluv said...

Mona said...
If the rumors are true about the show ending soon, I guess we'll be seeing Kate digging in the trash for those Playboy offers.
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Thanks, Mona for this bit of humor in a tense situation. I always embarass myself when I sit here in an empty room laughing my head off.

anotherthing... said...

my secret wish for the day:

a disgruntled TLC worker formerly employed at the KONpound will leak the film left on the cutting room floor of the nasty khate that is edited out. along with a detailed description of what it was REALLY like there. resulting in a judge demanding jon and kate shut up forever, attend therapy and determine custody based on the unedited footage from TLC and the kids desires. and then the kids live happily ever after.

*sigh* a girl can dream....

Team Jon (if I had to choose...) said...

http://www.popeater.com/2009/10/09/jon-gosselin-kate-gosselin-tlc-the-view/

great jon interview, seems very sincere.

Virginia Mom said...

Shoka said: "If Kate is kicking him out with a broom, he is not going to fight that filthy cow."

Kate might also run him down with the broom--if she was in a hurry and flying from the house. We've discussed this mode of transportation for her before.

Can't find it said...

I haven't been able to find this on ET, Showbiz Tonight, Radar, anywhere. Does anyone have a link?

CopyGirl said...

Anonymous said...

Jon didn't do this for his kids! He did this so the judge would favor him. Even with TLC gone the money that "has been set aside" for the kids will have to be "managed" by a parent or court appointed trust. So IMO "Jon" has come to the conclusion that removing the cameras will put him in a more favorable light.
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You can't know what is going on in Jon's mind or his motivations. All I know is that he has finally been able to stop the filming of those children, which is what I've been hoping would happen all along.

organizedblogroll said...

Y I P P I E! Peace at last for those poor children.

XYZed said...

This is Thanksgiving weekend in Canada. If the rumours are true, and the Gosselin children are now able to enjoy their childhood without the presence of cameras, then I have added one more thing to be thankful for. Wonderful, wonderful news.

fidosmommy said...

Sources say the happy birthday turned very unhappy that night. Mady cried when Jon had to leave. He had to leave because he wasn't allowed to stay overnight.

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Making memories, huh Kate? Put Oct 8, 2009 in your memory book. Mady and Cara's 9th Birthday - I hope you have the whole thing on video so they can watch it over and over again and preserve it for their children to watch one day.

They cried said...

Its being reported that both Mady AND Cara cryed the night of their birthday, because they thought Jon was spending the night and wanted him to stay, but Kate would not allow it. So sad.

Rap541 said...

To lose her show, all the control, perks and money, i believe those children are in real danger.

You know, I had this thought as well. Jon, I think, doesn't seem like the sort to be affected if
he has to humble himself and go back to work. Yeah, I think he likes the perks and the lifestyle of being famous... but for whatever reason, he is trying to get the show to end.

Kate LOVES the show. She clearly wants it to continue. She likes doing the public speaking where she is held up as Supermom. For a super mom who is all about the kids, she rarely spends any real time with the kids. She doesn't have a lot of patience with the kids. With the show done, the kids turn into a burden - a burden that is starting to talk back, and worse, a burden that prefers Daddy if reports are to be believed.

What is she going to do when she is alone in that house with no nanny, or extra help? Its not helped by the fact that the kids have been spoiled the last few years. I worry she's going to snap, and that she'll snap on the kids.

Midnight Serenade said...

"Jon didn't do this for his kids! He did this so the judge would favor him."
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As Rabbi Shmuley wrote:
"My response: who cares? Does it matter what the motive is? Get the kids off the show. They don't belong there as they suffer through the anguish of their parents' divorce."

Jon said said...

They cried said...

Its being reported that both Mady AND Cara cryed the night of their birthday, because they thought Jon was spending the night and wanted him to stay, but Kate would not allow it. So sad.

10/10/2009 4:46 PM

I read that Jon said that he could have spent the night in his so many sq ft apartment over the garage but knew Kate wouldn't want him to, not that Kate wouldn't allow it.

konGOaway said...

Kate's lawyer was on LKL when Jon and his lawyer were there. Didn't her lawyer say that filming couldn't be stopped because the terms of the custody agreement allowed Kate to continue filming? He said they were going to court the next day to have Jon's order overturned. Jon kept insisting that his contract with TLC said if either parent wanted it to stop - it would. I wonder if her lawyer will ever appear on camera again on her behalf!!!!!

Lauren said...

I hope and pray this is true!

Maybe Kate's new show is a go ahead for sure and TLC is canceling Kate Plus 8.

I don't care if Kate gets a new show,
as long as the kids are off of tv. It is time they get a normal life. Although I imagine the babysitters will be the ones still raising the children.

What??? said...

With the cameras gone, the kids will now have no sense of "normal" and feel like their world is completely out of control. I just hope they will have someone trying to help them navigate and understand the "new" normal of living in a house without being filmed. It is really sad to think of them alone with Kate and her tantrums. I'm sure they'll be worse without the production crew to keep her somewhat in check.
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With all due respect to your compassionate veiwpoint, HOW is any of that OUR business? Or OUR responsibility? Khate and Jon HAD those kids, we did not, and it is up to THEM to raise them, and if they are "left alone with KHate and her tantrums" b/c TLC crews "abdicated their responsibility to be the watchdogs of the G kids' lives" ,well if it is that DIRE of a situation, that is what CPS is for. Just sayin.
THe kids will be FINE, yes it will take some "Getting used to", but isnt' this event what this blog was intended to promote from the beginning?? I don't understand why this "happy" event would now cause worry and consternation...??

Opera said...

It's not over until the fat lady sings.....and I don't hear anything yet.

bbeau said...

What??? said...
With the cameras gone, the kids will now have no sense of "normal" and feel like their world is completely out of control. I just hope they will have someone trying to help them navigate and understand the "new" normal of living in a house without being filmed. It is really sad to think of them alone with Kate and her tantrums. I'm sure they'll be worse without the production crew to keep her somewhat in check.

If these children need a tv crew present to make sure that they are safe from their mom than childrens services should get involved.

tigerfan said...

konGOaway said...
Kate's lawyer was on LKL when Jon and his lawyer were there. Didn't her lawyer say that filming couldn't be stopped because the terms of the custody agreement allowed Kate to continue filming? He said they were going to court the next day to have Jon's order overturned. Jon kept insisting that his contract with TLC said if either parent wanted it to stop - it would. I wonder if her lawyer will ever appear on camera again on her behalf!!!!!

If I recall correctly, Kate's lawyer ( co counsel) claimed that Jon signed an agreement with Kate MUTUALLY agreeing with the continued filming of the children. Jon claimed that TLC said if EITHER parent at any time wish to cease filming they would honor the request. Jon with the assistance of his lawyer demanded TLC cease filming because as a father, Jon felt the continued filming to be a detriment to his children.

#1 When did Jon and Kate mutually sign said agreement? PRIOR to the filing of divorce or months following
as part of the 'separation' agreement.
#2 TLC felt that they indefinitely 'owned' the entire Gosselin family as TLC was totally blind sided by the fact that Jon actually imposed his rights as a father; legally and per the power given him by TLC ie, 'if either parent'.
#3 Just because Jon at one point MUTUALLY agreed to the continued filming of his children does NOT by proxy terminate his LEGAL right as a father to AT ANY TIME make decisions that are in the 'best interest of and to protect his children'.

Kate's lawyer was calling JOn out on the timing of his 'epiphany' in an attempt to minimize the fact that TLC had already granted JON, as a parent, the 'power' to cease filming at any time.

Midnight Serenade said...

"I don't understand why this "happy" event would now cause worry and consternation...??"
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Perhaps because it's been a topic of discussion among several psychologists on talk shows as to the real emotional problems these kids will suffer when they have to give up all the perks and enter the real world. Perhaps it is because psychologists fear that their mother will put all the blame on the father for taking away this show, and therefore putting an end to everything (trips, toys, etc.) that they have always known, therefore poisoning their minds against him.

The concern for the welfare of these children doesn't end just because the filming has stopped. There is still the ugly divorce to get through. Should that be OUR problem? Of course not, but that doesn't mean one cannot be worried about what happens in that house when a fairy tale life comes crashing down.

Katie said...

Kate better renew that RN license that expires at the end of this month. She is going to need a job.

silimom said...

If Jon and Kate are required to
put $15,000 ($7500 each) into a household expense account each month plus they had $230,000 set aside in another account for taxes, tuition, etc. (can't remember ever specific item that account paid for) then they need $400,000 a year to maintain their current lifestyle. That's not including the extras that TLC paid for.

Kate better hope she has some coupons (read- gift cards) left.

where's Jon No more Kate said...

I am very proud of Jon's actions in being there to oversee the removal of TLC's equipment.

You know as sometimes often happens in divorces the weak spouse becomes the strong one who goes on to become happier and a better parent.

Won't it be something if Jon turns things around completely and ends up with all the kids and providing for them etc.?

He has gotten counseling,has family support and Hailey f and her family. I think he will pull it out.

Kate will be the one to have a hard time I suspect.

We Don't Chew Gum When We're 3 said...

Hey Kate, Maybe you can get a part time job selling fruits & veggies with your old pal Henry!!

The organizing ladies sure don't want you, you have burnt your bridges with everyone you meet.

On the last episode when she was cleaning the basement, did anyone else see the interview couch prop? There was a huge prop, complete with fake painted walls with pictures, bookshelves, ect...
I thought this was truly part of their family room, or another part of the house. we rewinded that part and froze it to study more closely.
That had to take up alot of space!!

Tired of K8 said...

Been reading the comments and I've come to the conclusion that Khate is just really mental. I don't write this in glee; she's really got some issues: fame which she chased is going to ask a very heavy price.

I suspect a complete mental breakdown once TLC really pulls all out, the divorce and settlements are finalized, and Jon moves on.

Hopefully, the kids will be off tv, and Khate can continue with some sort of time in the sun - with a half-baked career as a scammer of Christians, and with some sort of he-haw TLC show that has her braying by herself. At least that will probably satisfy her to some extent and keep her spa-bodyguard money coming in.

thehazlettfamily said...

On the last episode when she was cleaning the basement, did anyone else see the interview couch prop? There was a huge prop, complete with fake painted walls with pictures, bookshelves, ect...
I thought this was truly part of their family room, or another part of the house. we rewinded that part and froze it to study more closely.
That had to take up alot of space!!
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It was mentioned in one of the Q & A episodes at the E-town house that the interview area was a "set" in the basement. IIRC they mentioned that one of the first things set up in the new house was the "set."

fidosmommy said...

Opera said...
It's not over until the fat lady sings.....and I don't hear anything yet.

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But the crazy lady has sung. Didn't you hear her? "Praise the Lord, praise the Lord!". Then there was the ecstatic shreik/sing thing she did over the labelmaker.

kids will get family back said...

With the children no longer being filmed, I'm sure Kate will find excuses to be on the road more ofter "earning a living" (living it up in hotels with Steve... or other random male conquests)

Then, Jon and other family members can move back and reestablish relationships and help pick up the kids pieces.

8together said...

Kate likes her kids preverbal. But what she is getting is a pack of sextuplets (and twins) catapulting towards their teen years. There is strength in numbers. I would not be surprised to see this saga drawn out for years. Maybe the kids will bid for emancipation from their parents (esp mothers) at age 15 or so, with smart cookies Mady and Leah heading the pack. I see retroactive lawsuits against one or both parents in the future. I hope Jon can stand the heat and be there for them anyway (even if they are mad at him for a while). I know that Kate will drop them if they start to defy her, but since there are so many of them, she won't be able to bully or control them for much longer.

Min/El said...

I heard that they are simply moving the camera equipment to a new house to bypass Jon's involvement in the "marital home".

Brummygirl said...

Min/El said...
I heard that they are simply moving the camera equipment to a new house to bypass Jon's involvement in the "marital home".
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Where did you hear that? I hope someone is keeping an eye on the previous house!!!

anotherthing... said...

jon seems SO certain he can shut down filming. and because im a conspiracy theorist...

im wondering if it has more to do with proof of his children being endangered or harmed by the filming than it has to do with anything else (ie contracts, etcs).

he seems so certain. and the only thing that would make him so certain is that either:

he is dumb and cant read/interpret the contract correctly,

the contract does allow him to shut down filming,

there is proof of harm or endangerment.

i personally think it harms them greatly. but for him to be so certain leaves me wondering. proving harm is difficult, i think, esp when the kids have never known anything else.

just wonder when the announcement will be made. what happens next...?

ABadViewofKate said...

"Just wondering....If Kate took off the wedding ring from Hawaii when TLC removed all the equiment, could it be that it was owned by TLC and they took it back?"

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Wouldn't that be delicious? Hee. It is not like it has any sentimental value - the whole renew wedding vow was a sham and Kate knows it.

sara said...

Am I the only one that heard this?? Kate said, "I wish she could live here." "WE make a good team" Talking about Jamie.. Makes me wonder.

Hmm. She said that about Jon too..

livnluv said...

Min/El said...
I heard that they are simply moving the camera equipment to a new house to bypass Jon's involvement in the "marital home".
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I don't see how that would make a difference. I don't think the kids can be filmed period, regardless of where they are...no cameras. I think if TLC fights to film the kids at this point, there's going to be a huge outcry and Jon will fight it in court.

Julie said...

Her name is so tainted. Does TLC still want to give her a talk show? LOL!

Scandals and trashy people don't have a place in the family brand business. Kate is no longer TLC's golden girl. Kate should apply one of those Real Housewives shows WITHOUT her children. Maybe Kate can slap some housewives and have cat fights.

Dima said...

The ratings don't mean the show is canceled, but simply that TLC would probably cut expenses (i.e.,perks) to bring it back down to the production costs of a regular reality TV show.

The 10 million+ viewers they got for the season premiere was an anomaly for a basic cable show. I seriously doubt that TLC was ever counting on keeping that many viewers--those are generally primtime network numbers, and good ones at that.

Anything over 1 million viewers is still considered good for a basic cable reality TV show. There are no writers (at least none protected by WGA regs), and $25,000 for a main cast of 10 is a steal. If TLC pulls the plug, it's for a reason other than ratings.

torgoman said...

I have two theories. One with a happy ending and the other unhappy:

Happy Ending:

TLC has moved the equipment out because they’re preparing to end the show after the court hearing and wanted to do the heavy lifting quietly over the weekend so as to avoid too much media attention. Jon’s case is solid enough that it’s not worth fighting for a show that continues to plummet in the ratings. Kate has her supporters, but I can’t imagine the talk show Kate taped with Paula Dean went over well with focus groups. And her guest hosting stint on The View made them really doubt if she had a credible future as an interviewer or if she could ever bring in big numbers by herself. This might explain the reports of Kate driving off by herself and crying. She’s seen the writing on the wall and knows the hayride is coming to an end. Of course, TLC made a big show of supporting Kate in print, but they’re just covering their tracks.


Unhappy Ending:

TLC is planning on moving the equipment back into the original house. This is all part of the media spin that started with Kate’s television appearances last week about having no money to pay her bills. In the new Kate+8, our favorite control freak will start a “brave, new chapter” in her life as single mom that’s been forced back to her simpler, original house and reflect on her new life as she “takes care” of her eight children.

GoPoshGo said...

IIRC they mentioned that one of the first things set up in the new house was the "set."

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Yet it took Kate 9 months to unpack the kids' favorite toys. Nice demonstration of priorities, Kate.

Lets tell it correctly said...

No one is moving TLC equipment anywhere. They have a Cease and Disist Order from the court. If they dared try that, they'd be in big trouble. The father spoke (Jon),and that's it, its done. No more camaras on the kids.
Where do you guys get this incorrect info? TLC themselves announced that filming was done.

stopthemadness said...

chellt said...
I think we are still being duped... THe ratings are down, the kids are in school, and Kate's solo show is not being well recieved... TLC wanted out and Jon all of the sudden wants the kids off of TV?? Hhmmm...Sounds to me that they didn't want to admit failure so they created more drama...Either way, stick a fork in them- they're done :)
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This is what I think, as well, or that it played a part. TLC and Jon were in one of those "you can't fire me, I quit" arguments with each other. TLC wants people to think Jon "ended" it so he can be the bad guy as Katie Tree Trunks stands staring at the gas pump, seeing her card declined - now THERE'S reality - but, at the same time, they can use the Evil Jon's decision to cover why they dropped the show: low ratings. Jon of course would like to be seen to be the one pulling the plug rather than the one kicked off the show.
Kate would like Jon to be bad guy and not have to face that people quit watching because he was off the show, because the show was seen to be a total fake, and because we couldn't bear her any longer.


I found his math somewhat odd in stating that they "each" made $1250. The money is paid lump sum to Jon and Kate for the WHOLE family. They never put one tenth of those checks into the bank for the kids, I'd be willing to bet. If they had believe me Kate would have been shouting it form the rooftops instead of just stating out of one side of her mouth that they do "everything" for the kids. They may make 1250 each if you divide it that way but Gosselins clearly don't divide it. That $$ went into the parents' account. Kate put some money in trust for the kids that Jon couldn't get at, but she only did that during this last phase, to look good to the judge. And was promptly rewarded with control over finances. Or maybe she got the financial control with the stipulation that she begin to put money aside for the children.

In any case, Jon should ideally have control of that money as well, half of it, but that is not the way it works, if it's all in one bunch and Kate controls the finances to support 9 of the ten Gosselins. I don't fully buy his comment that $1250/episode for his kids is some trifling sum not worthy to give up privacy for. I think he's thinking that 1250 per episode is a trifling sum for HIM to get paid since he also has to pay child support.

Think of it... if the judge uses half the show as his income, but yet Kate controls that money, Jon may never see much of it, but yet would still have this illusion of a high income against which to base his child support or alimony. That also becomes their "standard of living" to which they became accustomed.Supporting 8 kids who have to live that way will not be cheap.

Jon, in ending the show, also ends his high income as half that $1.2M they were making. There must be other financial reasons on both sides to do what they are doing now - TLC and Kate trying to starve Jon into compliance, Jon trying to starve them into negotiating.
Meanwhile fewer and fewer peole care or want to watch.

stopthemadness said...

I not the popeater "do you think Jon's getting a bad rap?" poll is running a bout 60 40 against him - that is, that roughly 6 out of 10 poeople think he is NOT getting a bad rap, ie he's being dealt with fairly and 4 out of ten thinking that he is being maligned.

He is doing better than I would have thought. A few more week's of Kate's BS and it will probably be 60 40 in his favor. They don't ask people if they think Kate is getting a bad rap in the media or a free ride based on the American' concept of motherhood and apple pie - I think she's DEFINATELY riding the perks of being a mom, even a lousy one.

Kittie6 said...

I have a feeling that the "marital home" will be sold (by court order) and profits split (however many ways the court does it) because there is no way mortgage payments can be made on that mansion now that TLC isn't paying them or giving them freebies. How could the KIDS afford that huge house since they aren't working?!

wramblinwreck said...

"I heard that they are simply moving the camera equipment to a new house to bypass Jon's involvement in the "marital home"."

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I'm sorry but that makes no sense at all. Setting up in a different house that's not their actual home would in effect be creating a stage where everyone pretends it's a home (I know, similar to what they have now). That would be clear evidence that the kids are working. TLC has always maintained they're only filming a documentary of the family's everyday lives. With the state of PA investigating the Gosselins and TLC for possible violation of child labor laws, I can't believe TLC would make such a stupid decision.

Maude said...

Silimom said:
they need $400,000 a year to maintain their current lifestyle. That's not including the extras that TLC paid for.

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I can't even begin to wonder what that amount could be.
Think about all the product placements we saw on the show. It would appear that they were "paid" in laundry detergent, fabric softener, dishwasher soap, dish soap, shampoo, conditioner, soap, toothpaste, dental floss, juice, clothes, shoes, etc.
That's just everyday items. We also say free apliances, furniture, kitchen remodel, camping equipment, tractors, ATVs, playhouses, solar panels, etc. Just having to purchase the everyday items will cost a fortune. I don't see how they will find jobs, even on t.v. that will pay them enough to live the way they've become accustomed.

I won't lie, I'd love to see Kate have to downsize everything in her life.
I want to see life kick her in the ass like its done to so many of us in the last couple years.

MelanieM said...

http://gosselins.sosugary.com/albums/Candids/2009/october102009/normal_025.jpg

To me this is a REAL moment caught on camera. It is so human and real :)

stopthemadness said...

The depth of Kate's Not Getting It when it comes to her children will be revealed as she babbles about how devastating this is for them, since "all they know" is cameras on them 22 hours a week, if not more. All they know is scripted reality and 3 hour forced naps so mommy can have her me time, all they know is being stuck in their basement or driveway with no outside friends or interests, because that is what being a reality show family requires, for them. That hell and then the trips which are probably as horrendous as possible with Kate stressing out and having to control everything.

She doesn't grasp that ending abuse, and the social isolation that always accompanies it, when it has been the norm, is actually a good thing.
The fact that the kids will miss the only other people they ever got to see, the crew, is so pathetic that even she should see the irony - if they were allowed to have friends and their real family they would not need to bond to people who get paid to be there. Is ANYONE in the kids' lives because they love them and want to be there? Is anyone in KATE'S life because they love her and want to be there? Now TLC is snatching her best friend who they paid to guard her?

Into the big mixed bags of poor skills we see in those sextuplets we can now add their social skills - none of the kids will find it easy to make friends with the behavioral role models they have at home, their mother - nuff said! - Cara and Mady's selfishness and meltdowns, I see these kids and the Itchy and Scratchy theme song comes on from the Simpsons. fight fight fight, fight fight fight, the Itchy and Scratchy Shooooow!!

They need some counselling to learn to be normal, How sad is that. Better late than never I suppose.

What?!?! said...

* BBEAU: * I was not the one saying that. _"mommytutres" expressed that worry and concern; I was the one rebutting it and indeed, mentioned CPS as an alternative.
Please do not attribute quotes to me that I did not say. ! Thanks

abettermom said...

Hmmmmm.. I have to admit, I am a bit skeptical of TLC just shutting everything down and removing all perks. Think about it for a second - Kate is their beloved golden child and supposedly there is a project in the works for her in 2010. So, why would they just yank everything and just leave her hanging? Wouldn't that hurt their very special relationship? While I do have an easier time believing that they did remove the filming equipment and the children's invasion of privacy has come to an end, I don't know that I can believe that TLC took everything near and dear (material things and people) away from Kate. I think that is exactly what they want the public to believe so that we will feel sorry for her, or gasp, she will somehow become relatable again (NOT!). TLC is shady and they will continue to do shady things. They have been revealed as the "man behind the curtain, manipulating perceptions and reality and I think this is just another demonstration of just that. It's all for show or should I say "the show," whatever that may be in the future. And BTW, the credit card decline is a total joke. Again, likely completely staged by TLC. What's next, one of her law firms that rep her back out because she has no money to pay them? C'mon, TLC. Nobody is buying it and even if the sheeple are, there just isn't enough of them to maintain your cash cow. I wish TLC would take the money they appear to sink into tabloids, photogs, blogs, magazines, Kate's lawyers, hired help, bodyguards, and whatever else and put it into an account for the kids. That's pretty much the only thing they can do at this point to redeem themselves even just a little bit, at least in my opinion.

MBach said...

Hey folks, I don't think we should count our Gosselins until the eggs are hatched.

Jon has stopped the filming of his children, I hope for good reasons. The Lying Channel has pulled out their equipment, and that is great. However, Kate/hate is crying "I'm broke" just a little too fast for it to be real.

This pull back by TLC just might be to set up Kate/hate as the poor single broke mom just in time for a dirty divorce fight. Kate/hate is broke (ha! - check for hidden accounts), Jon is broke, and the show is over. Cue the violins, and bring in the divorce lawyers.

I will believe it is over when there is either an official anouncement, or there is no longer a show that is their lives.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"they need $400,000 a year to maintain their current lifestyle. That's not including the extras that TLC paid for."

When all is said and done, it's going to be over half a million. Guarantee it.

my9cats said...

Abettermom

Maybe TLC is giving Kate a taste of what's to come if she and Jon don't get their &^$# together. Sort of a not-so-subtle. "we made you and we can break you".

Ohio Buckeye said...

Not just the moving truck pulling into GosselinLand. I think the Karma Train has just pulled into the Gosselin depot. All aboard, K8ie. And yours is a one way ticket to Gone&Forgotten. Enjoy the trip.

pogo said...

Yea! Jon. Jon wanted this 2 years ago. But, MS Kate likes the fame. I'm sure that Jon would have been very comfortable in a smaller house, near family, go back to work(good luck now)give the kids normal lives, do a twice year special, and possibly their marriage would have been happy. And the rest of us would not have to hear the dirty side. Now it would be a good idea to pull the kids and home school them, till the ding bat adults get their act together(children at school can be cruel)and everything settles down.

Aeris said...

Sadly, I don't this is over for the kids yet. The show may be "over" for now, but both Jon and K8 will sponge off their kids in whatever way they can just to survive. How is Jon going to cough up $7500 per month in child support? He has made admirable efforts to put a stop to the TLC Train, yet he provides ET with personal info about the kids, for money. He and Kate either don't know or can't remember how to earn a living that doesn't involve the kids. They need to know it can be done, after some much-needed downsizing. First to go, that money-guzzling mansion of theirs...

marypoppins said...

abettermom said...
Hmmmmm.. I have to admit, I am a bit skeptical of TLC just shutting everything down and removing all perks. Think about it for a second - Kate is their beloved golden child and supposedly there is a project in the works for her in 2010. So, why would they just yank everything and just leave her hanging?.......
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TLC is a profit generating business.

If there is no show, they have no reason to keep paying her- she is not a charity.

As for leave her hanging- I would guess she has been paid for every show or every week...no more show, no more pay.

Her spending and saving habits are none of their concern.

marypoppins said...

Julie said...
Her name is so tainted. Does TLC still want to give her a talk show? LOL!

Scandals and trashy people don't have a place in the family brand business.......
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If tlc wanted wholesome family programs, they would have dropped the gosselins long ago- they are enjoying the ratings

Harry Potter said...

"TLC has always maintained they're only filming a documentary of the family's everyday lives..."

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If they are only filming documentary of the family's everyday lives, why did they have a load of filming equipment in Gosselin's house? They needed a big moving van to take them away.

Apparently, there's a lot of set up for scenes and "stages".

A real family doesn't have tons of filming equipment in their backyard. It's ridiculous. How fake is this show?

marypoppins said...

What is she going to do when she is alone in that house with no nanny, or extra help? Its not helped by the fact that the kids have been spoiled the last few years. I worry she's going to snap, and that she'll snap on the kids.
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On the organize the basement epsisode when kate hit her foor she let out this attention demanding bellow.

And i wondered how she would behave if she was truly angry or upset at someone.

Tammy said...

"She doesn't grasp that ending abuse, and the social isolation ...
The fact that the kids will miss the only other people they ever got to see, the crew, is so pathetic that even she should see the irony..."

I always feel that Kate has the tendency to isolate her kids and Jon from friends and families. That's the typical pattern of an abuser. An abuser isolates you so she can control and manipulate you. You have no one to talk to. She doesn't like family members to voice their opinions or intervene when they see something wrong.

The TLC crew members are paid to be there. They probably have their own children to worry about, AS IF they care about Gosselin kids. They also got livelihood and mortgage to worry about. Kate's kids can take the number. Nope! They don't love Kate's kids more than their own. They don't worry about Kate's kids more than their own problems.

Especially Gosselin kids are spoiled and mean now. The last thing adults can stand is spoiled brats. Sorry, Kate. There is no way they "love" your children. Nobody wants to bond with spoiled brats unless their jobs require them to.

abettermom said...

marypoppins said -

TLC is a profit generating business.
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Yes, indeed. And this is why they will do whatever they can to salvage any amber of glowing potential from the Gosselin's ashes. Unfortunately, they likely think Kate is just that. If they are still planning on a different show, they still think she has potential. Therefore, they will continue to try to salvage their "brand" as best they can. And now that the truth (money, nannies, chefs, staff, etc) has come out to the general public, which we've all known for quite some time, they will try to return her to a "broke, struggling single Mom" in an effort to garner sympathy and build her back up. Kate is vindictive and thinks she is entitled. Do you honestly think think that if TLC really pulled all the "perks" and "cut off her credit cards" that she'd be happy to stay on and pursue her new show? Hard to believe if you ask me, but I don't know. Maybe TLC has decided to cut their losses and move on, but it just seems far too contrived for me to believe. They are greedy and unethical and this trainwreck has been a financial windfall for them. I just can't see them completely walking away when they were train conductor from the beginning. They have to think there is way to get back on track, however bizarre and ridiculous it may be and perhaps this is just the beginning, not the end :-(

nanasez said...

Think of it... if the judge uses half the show as his income, but yet Kate controls that money, Jon may never see much of it, but yet would still have this illusion of a high income against which to base his child support or alimony.
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If half the show income is viewed as Jon's, then Kate's income would be the other half of the show income, plus income from her books and solo appearances. If anything, she'd have the higher income. I don't see a judge awarding her alimony based on that.

As for child support, if Kate's been making over half the money, she'd be responsible for over half the amount determined necessary to support the children.

nanasez said...

TLC is planning on moving the equipment back into the original house. This is all part of the media spin that started with Kate’s television appearances last week about having no money to pay her bills.
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I don't think so. Jon is still co-owner of the E-town house as well, and can declare "no filming" there as easily as he can declare "no filming" at the Konpound.

Tuesday said...

Ohio Buckeye said "karma train...", love it! That train has been scheduled to arrive for quite some time. Oh wait, I think it already has made a stop for the hateful one. (file that stop under lost marriage and family you attention seeking selfish witch KHATE)

fidosmommy said...

I still haven't seen any reports of this besides on GWoP. Nor have I seen any pictures of the Big Move
out of the mansion.

Can anyone post any links, please?

a real stay at home mom said...

I saw the Truman Show on tv last night and couldn't help but think of the poor Gosselin kids. I hope the end of this show really is near.

Seeing the kids getting on and off the bus with cameras flashing is so sad. For their sake alone, I hope this craziness ends soon and they can somehow get the normal lives they haven't had for the past five years.

MickeyMcKean said...

I still haven't seen any reports of this besides on GWoP. Nor have I seen any pictures of the Big Move
out of the mansion.

Can anyone post any links, please?

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No link but I taped THE INSIDER from Friday night and got around to watching it this morning. In this episode were people carrying items and they said it was TLC removing their stuff.

KateTheOpportunist said...

Kate has cried poor since the time she conceived the sextuplets, and relied on donations from the church and general public, in spite of the information reported that Jon's family had given them a nest egg and was providing financial support to them. Never mind their home makeover.

And now again, she is crying poor when clearly she has millions in the bank. I hope no one is stupid enough to believe this crap.

And right after saying she is a "high road taker," she proceeds to go on show after show trying to make Jon look bad.

This woman is the biggest phony, lying opportunist I have ever seen.

MickeyMcKean said...

Maude said...
Silimom said:
they need $400,000 a year to maintain their current lifestyle. That's not including the extras that TLC paid for.

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Can someone please explain to me how they came up with the tidbit that the Gosselins need $400,000 a year = $34,000 month for expenses?

I estimate the PA monthly expenses:

McMansion Mortgage $5,000
ETown Mortgage $2,000
Food $1,500
Utilities $500
Water (McMansion is on well)
Car Payments (x5) $2,500
Gas $300
Clothes $500
Phone $500
Landscaping $1,000
Pool $200
Tuition $1,000
Not-a-nannies $1,000
Pedicures & nails $200

Just based on the above I come up with $15,700 a month, half of what is estimated above and I am not taking into account Jon's NYC apt and expenses. Am I forgetting something?

Shelly said...

Inside Edition came on after my local news. They had a story about the Gosselins and at the very end they showed a couple of vans pulling out of their driveway. They reported that TLC picked up all of their equipment. Here is the link I could find on their website, it's at the end of the article:

http://www.insideedition.com/news.aspx?storyId=3488

Bethy said...

Mark my words...This woman will stop at nothing for FAME and FORTUNE.

I'm sure she'll find other ways to exploit those poor kids, she'd probably sell the name of her kid's school to TMZ if they offered her the right amount of money!

maggie said...

The TLC "jig" is not over yet. Remember that TLC has a Kate "projet" for 2010. It is rumored to a traveling show where Kate interviews the owner/chefs of organic restaurants. In fact, someone posted that Nora's Restaurant was closed for a few hours because Kate was there. A lot of the perks will probably still be there...bodyguard for sure!

Big Wooden Spoon said...

pogo said...
*edited for space* Now it would be a good idea to pull the kids and home school them, till the ding bat adults get their act together(children at school can be cruel)and everything settles down.

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Respectfully, I can't agree with that. Those children have no idea how to behave because they've never been anywhere except at home with awful parents. They NEED good teachers and peers and playmates -- all children do. Even if they get teased and have to learn some painful lessons, it's their only chance for future normality. If they had a wonderful home life, I'd agree with you -- I tried to home school my youngest during my divorce, but the ex wouldn't allow it. But for this batch of kids, home is the problem and getting out of it is their only hope!
JMO

KatesBigFlintstoneToe said...

marypoppins said...
(Julie said...)
If tlc wanted wholesome family programs, they would have dropped the gosselins long ago- they are enjoying the ratings

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TLC--> Trainwreck-Loving Channel
Lets not forget My Monkey Baby, Mermaid Girl, The Two-Headed Girl, TreeMan...
Kate's new show fits right in!

Ms.Peach said...

I'll believe TLC packed up their stuff when I see a picture or confirmation, because I don't believe much Inside Edition says. They're the only ones reporting this.

kateaintallthat said...

Mark my words...This woman will stop at nothing for FAME and FORTUNE.

Kate HAD her 15 minutes of fame and fortune and it's not like she had/has any talent to fall back on. Although Kate might be given a 'second chance' opportunity (ie her own show) but in the absence of any real TALENT or CHARISMA to maintain the interest of a true audience, her 'show' will surely bomb.

Suzi said...

Maggie said...

The TLC "jig" is not over yet. Remember that TLC has a Kate "projet" for 2010. It is rumored to a traveling show where Kate interviews the owner/chefs of organic restaurants. In fact, someone posted that Nora's Restaurant was closed for a few hours because Kate was there. A lot of the perks will probably still be there...bodyguard for sure!

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Thankfully a fact-drovem GWoPer confirmerd with restaurant management that the NORA'S RESTAURANT RUMOR IS UNTRUE, so please let's put that one to rest.

We know about Kate's 2010 TLC "project" from Kate; Kate also told a group at the last Women's Show she did that she was getting her own talk show because she has "the gift of gab." Judging by the press releases clarifying that it was Paula Deen who was shooting a pilot for a talk show and that Kate Gosselin was one of about 20 women trying out, that was obviously less than a done deal.

Also, think about the shows that come and go all the time as short-attention-spanned viewers switch channels. Just because a month ago TLC talked (even did early production) about a project with Kate in no way means they might still be interested as Kate has made major PR flubs in the past week or so.

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