Shoka and Nala, we hardly knew you.

It's being reported on various sites that the Gosselin family dogs, Shoka and Nala, were returned to the breeder today. Please use this thread for discussion related to the Gosselin dogs.

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stopthemadness said...

These two jackasses have proven how low they'll go to hurt each other - and the kids, who will be bitterly disappointed and not for the first - or last - time, by the immaturity of these two people.

At least the Gosselins are modelling proper behavior for the children NOW; if you cannot care for a pet the responsible thing to do is to give it back to the breeder or find a proper home. Keeping unwanted pets results in abuse and neglect.

Not that they are doing this for the right reasons - if they were intelligent and moral enough for that they would not have gotten pets knowing the state of their marriage and the likelihood that they would not be ABLE to care for and love two new additions to the family.

Now watch Kate spin this as all JON'S fault. WHo was it that ran squealing to the puppies, and insisted on naming them.

Oh well in Gosselin Land puppies aren't forever, like wedding vows. The diamond however is still being coddled and cared for.

"for the kids."

goawayfools said...

Oh no they didn't!! While I am happy that the dogs now have a chance for a much better life, I am so angered at the Gosselins for allowing those dogs to bond, at least to Jon, and then let them go. Those poor dogs must be so confused, bless their hearts.

The kids better behave or Kate may drop them off at the fertility doctor's house.

Storm said...

Glad to hear those dogs will finally have a decent life.

ByeByePups said...

You would think she would want these dogs around. German Shepards when cared for and trained right would be excellent companions. As well as watch dogs. What is so hard about giving them some food and water on a daily basis. These kids are going to be so screwed up everything they have come to love is being ripped away from them by their horrible mother.

Concerned about the tups said...

Not at all surprising but of course, extremely dissapointing. Introducing two living and love-needing animals into a very messed-up family in order to make a television show.. thanks TLC!

chesterctymom said...

...they were just props...

GoPoshGo said...

The photos of the dogs in the crates on the bed of the truck were heart-breaking. Those poor dogs were just a prop for an episode because TLC couldn't come up with any interesting plot lines for that week. How dare they adopt two dogs into a family in which the evil mother clearly despises animals, and neither parent can be bothered to be a consistent care-taker. I still think animal rights groups should call them out on this. A dog isn't a blouse or a pair of shoes that you can willy-nilly "return to the store" just because you don't really like them afterall.... What despicable and irresponsible behavior on ALL of their parts: TLC, Jon, & Kate.

As an animal lover and former Humane Education teacher for the Santa Barbara Humane Society, I am appalled at their careless treatment of those dogs.

Truth be told though, in my heart of hearts, I know the dogs are better off. The tups were never given any guidance on how to treat animals, and were too often overly rough; J & K are too selfish to give the dogs the love and care they need. The breeder will find them new [hopefully more loving] homes.

What's next? Returning the tups to the Fertility Clinic?????????

me too said...

Even though kate didn't want or like the dogs, I have seen them out playing when she was there with the kids in both paparazzi pictures and TLC footage.

I have also seen her in tabloid pictures brushing the dogs as well. And I think they said that Cara and Mady were responsible to feed and water the dogs.

Jon should have realized the dogs were something (besides the kids) that he should have given thought to in the separation and planned accordingly.

ginger said...

I knew it was a bad idea for them to have dogs because Kate doesn't even like dogs. Now the German shepherds are used as props and discard. It's the producer's idea - cute dogs and children, win win. They thought you can't go wrong with that dog + children formula.

She said they were going to adopt a child from Korea. Why??? So Kate can see what's that like to raise just one child, one child only? Bull crap! You will just raise one child when there are other small children running around in the house. You can't pretend they don't exist.

If she really wants to see what's that like to raise one child, she can wait until her kids are off to college and then adopt. I bet she won't because by that time the reality show won't exist. She won't need an adopted child as a prop.

This woman should never be allowed to adopt anyway. You can send the dogs back to the breeder. Is she going to send an orphan back to Korea if she doesn't like that child? If she can't, she will just treat the child badly.

If she really wants to know that's that like to raise one child. Give each of her children a special day and only hang out with one child all day long. But she can't. She has to travel with the bodyguard to have her ego tripping regardless TLC pays her more than enough.

Rebecca said...

If this is true, I feel sad for the kids - losing one more thing in their lives they thought was permanent. But I have to admit I'd be happy for the dogs to be away from Kate.

sara said...

Those poor kids. Isn't it bad enough around there already. Now they don't even have their dogs. Jon and Kate's selfishness has no end.

enoughalready said...

I am only sorry that those gorgeous dogs spent a year of their precious lives in the company of misery.

To me, if the dogs continued to live there, they would be far worse off - can you imagine what will happen in the winter in the thick of the snow season?

Anyway, I wish these dogs will be rehomed to a wonderful family who really loves dogs and knows how to appreciate and care for these dogs.

Doris said...

I hope it is true...Those dogs deserve to be owned by a caring human being rather than a hateful, self absorbed narcissist; who only owned them to enhance her image.

I own a German Shepard and they are wonderful, loyal dogs that love being a part of a family....not left in a kennel because the b*&^ can't be bothered!

cdnmom47 said...

Thank God.

I'm sad said...

The Gosselin orphanage is where happiness goes to die. How much more must the children suffer (canine and human)? And leave it to Kate to undermine the care of those dogs and then leave Jon to do the dirty work.

Miz SD said...

J&K didn't think twice about throwing away eight childhoods; what are two dogs?

Terra said...

That's pathetic. I sincerely hope it isn't true. At least it makes a good teaching opportunity. My children have known for awhile that we're adopting a shelter dog sometime AFTER Christmas, when a lot present puppies are returned. It's also how we got our bunny after Easter a couple years ago.

If anyone here is thinking about adopting an animal, try local shelters first!

Kelly said...

I know the timeline is all screwy because we don't know what to believe but it appears that they brought those dogs into the family in the midst of all of their troubles. Why would they do that? Remember the joy that it brought to the kids on the episode where J & K told them they were getting a dog for Christmas? It made the kids so happy. Now, the dogs are gone. Extended family are gone, their pets are now gone, and depending on the day mommy or daddy are gone. These kids are going to have such trust/abandonment issues as they get older. I'm not a dog lover (actually, a little afraid, I saw a friend get bitten by a german sheppard as a kid) but I think the whole situation is sad.

Ladylou said...

As sad as I feel for the children... their mom & dad divorce and now the dogs are being sent away. Wonder if the kid's are all whispering if they will be next?

Kate never liked the dogs. She sure loved on them at the breeders when they were puppies.... that changed quickly when she got them home. I'm afraid it just continued to go downhill after that. After all she is uncapable of love and affection for the children, the dogs were certainly asking to much of "Queen Hynee-ness".

I hope the dogs find a new home, where they are appreciated for the beautiful animal they are.
They are better off anywhere that is away from Kate.

Wonder if she feels at all vulnerable now that they are gone? Jon wanted them for security around the mansion.
She'll have to sleep with both ears open now, unless she has hired Steve to wear a dog collar and roam around the acreage keeping watch for intruders.

wkh said...

that's weird... I mean come now, like they can't afford a trainer or dog caretaker? I was actually always kind of surprised they didn't have Cesar on there, like the American Chopper guys or the Ace of Cakes place.

Ohio Buckeye said...

I'm glad because those dogs deserve better than a life sentence with K8.

German Shepherds are very intelligent, sensitive, loyal and always try hard to intuit what their loved ones want and then try so hard to deliver whatever that is - they love to make their loved ones happy.

K8 has NONE of these noble traits. Nary a one.

If anyone should've been muzzled and/or caged, it should've been K8, who is an embarrassment to her species.

I'm guessing the breeder will have no trouble find a better, more loving home for Shoka & Nala.

And, Oh, BTW, how classic K8 was it that, even for pets she had ZERO interest in, muchless affection for, Queen Control refused to allow her kids to even name the dogs - no, K8 was Large and In Charge even for that.

The woman is psychological debris, and that's a kind analysis. Can we please vote her off our planet?

CanineDivine said...

I am very happy and relieved for the dogs, and sorry for the kids. However, although the excuse given for the return gives me indegestion, returning the dogs might very well save the kids from a dangerous dog bite, given the road they were already going down with the mistreatment of the dogs.

Sugarpop said...

Since when are they JON'S dogs? They were supposed to be FAMILY dogs. KATE is the one who told the kids, and KATE is the one who ran to pick them, and KATE is the one who insisted on naming them, even after she made it clear she didn't like dogs! But now that it's JON getting rid of HIS dogs? It's unbelievable how Kate's spin doctors are pulling this off. Simply amazing.

I wish Jon would use his Twitter account to counter every accusation she makes against him with facts.

Go Away Gosselins said...

These kids are going to be so screwed up everything they have come to love is being ripped away from them by their horrible mother.

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and father!

Ms.Peach said...

Kelly said...
I know the timeline is all screwy because we don't know what to believe but it appears that they brought those dogs into the family in the midst of all of their troubles. Why would they do that? Remember the joy that it brought to the kids on the episode where J & K told them they were getting a dog for Christmas? It made the kids so happy.
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It was FAKE. The dogs were with them in October. They didn't move into the new house until November. You're right, though, October was when Kate told Jon it was over. The dogs were PROPS to get the ratings up. The whole deal with them bringing the dogs home from the breeder and stopping on the way home buying dog stuff was FAKE, FAKE, and FAKE. Jon said on the video today that they would have had the dogs one year in October. Not only that, but when they did the episode when Kate was cleaning that "nasty" fridge, I saw a dog paw on the stairs that someone was vaccuming. Neighbors in their E-town neighborhood saw a dog tied up to the swing set, before they even moved.

wubbzy said...

Anyone think that this dog stunt was done today so people will discuss this instead of the ratings (which should be out soon but are probably too dismal for TLC to release?).

Ms.LPeach said...

Radar has 692 comments regarding Jon sending the dogs back to the breeder. I smell a rat. Radar is being spammed by sheeple, bought and paid for by TLC.

Jake said...

I wish Jon would use his Twitter account to counter every accusation she makes against him with facts.

Facts? Jon is hardly the pillar of honesty and integrity. Sorry but he has been photographed with too many women in too many questionable situations for me to believe what he has to say.

ntvnat said...

"Kids, we're getting divorced. But to lessen the blow, here's a couple of puppies. Whoops. Hold on a minute. Nevermind. Just deal."

They (TLC cameras) FILMED the good-bye! How low can you go?! Such "memories" for the kids (along with their ex-babysitter telling In Touch that she had an affair with Jon and he was a good lover).

TMZ showed the kids hitting them with a plastic bat and the Humane society was notified. I wonder if they were forced to get rid of them.

MickeyMcKean said...

I'm not surprised the dogs are gone - it was what, 10(?) days ago that her kids were filmed hitting one of them with a plastic bat?

Lots of negative comments and overall negative publicity FOR KATE due to that video!!!

No, I'm not surprised whatsover but the good news is that this is the best thing FOR THE DOGS.

Mark my words, Kate's PR team will try to blame Jon but guess what, WHO is staying at the house where there was more than enough room for two dogs and who is living in an *apartment* in NY?

No, this is KATE's FAULT - ALL THE WAY - and the kids will figure it out too, that is, if they have not already done so already.

Sad For Good Dogs said...

I've tried to not post here for a month or more in order to curb my blogging obsession on all things Gosselin. It worked; I'd said about all I could say, over many months on GWoP, on almost all aspects of the debacle, always mindful (tried to) on keeping the focus on the kids and the impact of filming on their lives. I guess I gave up, with no hope left for either parent to do the right thing by these children. But I always had a soft spot for the Sheps because various German Shepherds and shepherd mixes have been part of our family since about 1926, no lie. I have one now and she is such a wonderful, sweet, loyal, intelligent animal. The minute I heard, 'way back when, about Gosselins getting a dog(s), I felt like breaking dishes against a wall because I knew (how could any of us NOT know) if there was ever a family who did NOT need dogs "in the mix" it was the Gosselins. Their lives were already so messed up. Young pups need consistency, routine, training, etc. They sure weren't going to get it at THAT house with its revolving doors and revolving people. Seriously, raising a puppy has some of the same elements as raising a human baby. It's WORK. It was so obvious that Kate had no interest in dogs. Easy to figure they were probably locked up most of the time she was "in residence" because she didn't want the bother. The poor dogs have got to be so confused, although I was glad they had each other and a lot of space when they WERE able to be free on the property. If they are going back to a breeder, at least they have a chance to bond with another family, although it's hard on them. I've adopted dogs of all mature ages and they can adapt with a proper amount of hands-on attention. Frankly, if they can be kept together and adopted out as a pair, it's the best thing for them.

Maybe there's something we don't know. Maybe the Gosselins are going to unload the mansion. If it's a proactive move to give up the dogs, all the better. What does it teach the kids, though? That when something's "in the way," you just discard?

I'd live in a tent before I'd give up my dogs. I tell you, folks, I don't miss the Gosselins. The kids will survive their damaged childhoods, somehow. And I hope they feel no responsibility toward their dysfunctional, selfish parents.

GWoP, thanks for the opportunity, as always, to vent and discuss. This site is run responsibly.

NoUse4Kate said...

I was actually glad that the dogs were given back. From what I've read the dogs were in cages or being hit by the kids. Rarely were they seen running around unless Jon was home. K8 did her photo op of grooming the dogs once but that was it. They are much better off now.

Techymum said...

The dogs will be fine at a new home, certainly away from the bickering and lack of schedule, etc....

The children, however, especially Dear Mady....who so desperately wanted one that would love JUST HER.

Again, dear Gosselin children, all 8 of you, please know that there are people out here who truly wish your lives were not like this.

Protect8 said...

Once again - the Gosselin children are the last of the "It May Be a Crazy Family but It's Our Family" to be considered by their parents. First their parents divorce, which is a huge trauma to kids even if the parents fight all the time and should split up, and now their pets are taken away.

Aren't the Gosselin children almost always at the house and the parents come and go - like Kate being a celebrity in NYC this week? The dogs would have been the one constant for the children but they lose them because of their parents.

If it's a case where the children were rough and abusive to the dogs, then the children need some very serious counseling.

goawayJandK said...

If Jon really wanted to keep those dogs, he would have purchased a NYC man cave that allows pets. We have many friends in NYC who have large dogs .

Just when you think those poor kids can't be disappointed/hurt again by their greedy parents....

Ms.Peach said...

In the video the breeder's license plate is clearly visible. Anyone have the ability to track this guy down and find out what is happening with the dogs?

SoSad said...

Kate never wanted the dogs. She was not nice to them and always kept them in their crate unless they were useful for a pic (her brushing the dog.....yeah, right!). I grew up with 2 german shepherds, and I really hope those dogs are kept together in their new home. My dogs were joined at the hips and I've seen Shoka and Nala on the show always together. If they are seperated, they'll grieve. Sheesh, those poor kids have had everyone/thing they love taken away from them. Well Kate, you're always talking about making memories for your kids, here's another one for them. Unfortunately, they don't seem to be very good memories.

Allison said...

I usually just sigh and roll my eyes nowadays at J&K news, but this made me so angry. Those poor dogs, those poor kids.

This borders on inhumane.

It Just Goes Bad to Bad to Bad said...

I've made a real point of not going into justjared and radaronline so as not to have my "click" counted when it comes to the Gosselins, but I wanted to see for myself this new news about the dogs being taken away and, I tell you, those photos are heartbreaking. Tears sprang to my eyes. It's so cold...dogs being a casualty; expendable. Toss out what's a problem. I'm trying to understand that with the screwed-up Gosselin mess, anything's better for the dogs than being in the middle of Jon and Kate's war, but the dogs seemed bonded to Jon and each other. I hope someone can go adopt them as a pair. If I lived in that area, I would do everything in my power to buy those two dogs and give them some security and peace. Lovely, beautiful animals. I can't take much more of this. The Gosselins have done nothing but upset me for over a year now.

If Kate winds up on a show with Paula Deen, I'm cancelling my PAULA magazine subscription. I love Paula Deen and I think she's the real deal. I can't imagine her doing a show with fake Kate.

I keep thinking to myself, "can this get any worse with these people?"

Love My Dog said...

Those poor kids. As a dog lover our puppy was a member of the family from the moment we brought him home. He's 5 months now and going through his "terrible twos" but there is no way that I'd ever get rid of him. First the kids lose their parents to divorce, greed, fame...you name it and now their losing their pets. Nothing is permanent in their lives. The next step will be Khate sending the twins off to boarding school and the tups will follow as soon as they're old enough. Khate will end up getting herself a little "purse dog" (no offense to anyone who owns a small breed) to carry around like Paris.

THIS One I Want To Hear said...

Well, I'm going to be VERY interested to hear what Kate has to say on tomorrow's "The View" about why they gave up the dogs. I'm sure, as the radaronline piece alluded to, she'll blame it all on Jon (HIS dogs, not her responsibility...never mind the kids, and how they feel about it, since they never get a voice on anything anyway). I hope upon hope that Joy will step up and grill her on the dogs. I haven't watched The View since Rosie hosted but I seem to remember that Joy's an animal lover, and I think Barbara Walters loves dogs, too.

Willow #1 said...

See, Kate, it wouldn't have hurt you to let the kids name them after all. You didn't have to go through life with "stupid names like Buddy" or whatever you said.

She probably knew all along she wouldn't keep them forever - she just wanted to be mean and be the boss.

Tired of K8 said...

At least the dogs have escaped the scrutiny of the cameras... unfortunately the kids cannot be returned to their breeder as she is the one who continues this farce of a show.

Honestly, the best thing for these dogs... Glad to hear this news.

ruthy said...

Those dogs are lucky!!

Jon and Kate love anything that is free. They just don't realize that unlike a vacation, toys or clothing some work is involved.

These two are numb-nuts!!!

Gosselin pups for me said...

Does anyone know the name of the breeder? I would take those precious dogs in the drop of a hat.

texas two step said...

My heart breaks for the kids, as even though they may have been hitting them with bats (that is the PARENTS fault for not teaching them how to treat pets) I believe the kids loved the dogs.
I am leaning towards the belief as mentioned that the dogs were brought in by TLC as props. TLC is not beyond anything in my opinion.
My hope is that the dogs are adopted out (bought...) by families that truly are dog/animal lovers and given a better home than where they came from. The two adults (yes, both Jon and Kate) left something to be desired in their displays of animal ownership.
Now if you would have set up the camera 24/7, I'm sure kHate would have been the poster child for Dog care.... but that would have taken away from her career ambitions... you know, kinda like the kids do.

Disgusted said...

This dog story on radaronline has brought 750 comments so far. Poor Patrick Swayze did not even get CLOSE to that many comments to celebrate his life. What the hell is wrong with people that these two wanna be celebrities are taking over the news. I am so sick of hearing about them and their stupid antics. And now a new story online Jon tells the babysitter Oh you can't get pregnant I had a vasectomy. WTF??? I can not take another second to listen to this nonsense. Pay attention to your kids and STFU!!!!!!!!!!!

Midwest Mom said...

Let's tally this up, grandparents got in the way, so Kate banned them from the kids lives.

Aunt Jodi & Uncle Kevin got in the way, so Kate banned them from the kids lives.

Haven't seen Nana Janet or Beth/Bob in ages....

The dogs got in Kate's way, so they've been sent back to the breeder.

Somehow Kate will spin it, so that the dogs got sent back "for the kids". "I did it for my kids".

MickeyMcKean said...

Even though I know this is the best thing for the dogs, as a dog lover, I find I'm getting pissed off.

However, I know that if ever there was something that will push people over the edge re "All Things Gosselin" it would be getting rid of the dogs when they obviously have the means and space to keep and take care of them - but KATE cannot be bothered to do so.

Not that I don't hold Jon accountable to some degree but they in general and Kate in particular have just taken on the dog lovers of the world.

Wouldn't it be ironic now that Shoka and Nala have been given back to the breeder, not because of the divorce but because they were basically used props but are no longer needed for the show, that this would be the final straw with the remaining viewers?

Seriously, it was one thing for the wedding vows to be all about lies, but to use two beautiful animals as props for a TV show might really push viewers over the edge.

The Gosselins exploits children and animals ... how low can they go?

rural mom said...

I wonder who will rescue the children. They eat off disposable plates, their daddy is disposed of, their pets are disposed of, their grandparents, aunt and uncles and cousins are all tossed out, and there is cackling Kate with her bodyguard dreaming her big dreams of being the next Oprah. Sick.

carolann said...

"They (TLC cameras) FILMED the good-bye! How low can you go?! Such "memories" for the kids (along with their ex-babysitter telling In Touch that she had an affair with Jon and he was a good lover)."

That wasn't TLC filming. It was Radar. Jon is very friendly with them. They are the ones he does his fence talks with. If it were TLC they would take the footage back and edit it for a show. No way would they let it loose online without the finishing touches.Jon reminds me of Britney when she thought the papparazi were her friends. They are bloodsuckers who use people. He is stupid to trust them.

Bully Mom said...

I've seen Paula Deen's show where she's got dog(s) walking around the kitchen while she cooks - she's a dog lover.

So they have to get rid of them because kHate can't handle them and Jon didn't make arrangements for them while he's gone??? WTF!!! With all the help that she's got I'm sure someone was responsible for the dogs. As others have said the dogs were just props. Many people get pets because puppies and kittens are always cute but then they turn in to dogs and cats.

Those two sorry excuses for parents only think of themselves. I fell so very, very sad for those children.

Kate is despicable said...

When Kate gets her talk show
when Kate becomes busy with her celebrity life
When Kate doesn't need TLC show no more,
She will send those children to boarding school
She will move to NYC or LA living like a real celebrity being social and mingling with "useful" people

She wants that kind of life. You know it. She doesn't want to spend time with her children.

When she had no money, she had no choice but being homey. Now she has $, she can choose not to be home.

VerbalAssassin said...

Well, we can actually see Jon spend time with the dogs and even taken 1 of them to the vet when it swallowed one of the toys.

The last episode, Jon took one of the dog with him as they hiked thru the yard to go fishing. After the trip, Jon hosed himself off and told Shoka I believe, to "go" and laughed because he was surprised the dog was waiting for him.

I don't remember Kate spending any time with the dogs in the saltest episodes.

Backyard movie. No dogs.

Backyard camping. No dogs.

So, we all know who really got rid of the dogs. And Kate, "forced" Jon to return the dogs so the media pounce all over him..

"How dare Jon return the dog"....

Kate is one sneaky person. Kate made Jon return the dogs on purpose.

1) She doesn't like being near pets cause they're not "clean".

2) She wants Jon to do it for the bad publicity.

3) Did you see the way Kate held Joel after the backyard movie? She held him like he was a diseased animal.

Etownmom2 said...

From the old neighborhood -- there was misinformation on this site that the dogs were here when they were living in Elizabethtown. That is not true. True, they came to visit when they were moving more items out, but no, the dogs were not here -- they were already in Wernersville when they purchased the dog. We were surprised they got dogs as our one neighbors dog got loose and when on their property and Kate told them they were "not dog people" and the one neighbors dog would go to the border and the children would yell over how their mother didn't like dogs. When we learned they got dogs, we figured it was for protection at their new estate.

Melanie P. said...

I hope those dogs aren't too messed up from their experience in Hell. Poor dogs. I hope this is true and that they're adopted by a real family.

I'm also sad for the kids. It always seem that the kids lose out every time. They can't win. It's awful.

me too said...

ByeByePups said...

You would think she would want these dogs around. German Shepards when cared for and trained right would be excellent companions. As well as watch dogs.



You know I've been thinking about this for LONG time: I have never seen those dogs barking at people. All the crews from the going green episode, the different TLC crews they've had around, the lady who brought Jon his new SUV, the Crooked House people, all the different "babysitters"...I don't think these dogs are good watch/guard dogs.

I wonder why? German Shepherds are pretty territorial and wonderful guard dogs by trait/instinct...these seem to not be.

Laurie said...

As I sit here and look at my dog I can't even contemplate what life would be like without him. Dogs love us undonditionally - there's a reason that dog is God spelled backwards....Jon & K8 - karma is going to come back to you big time. Yes - I blame Jon on this one two. It just keeps getting worse and worse. How could you do that do the kids?

Bad Move said...

Not a good PR move, not a good PR move, not a good PR move! If there's one thing they need to learn it's that they souldn't rile up animal lovers!

TEAMJON said...

I bet donuts to dollars that Kate will get a small dog (of course for the kids) that is less hairish, slobberish, and manageablelish. How I DESPISE that woman and I didn't even have to be married to her. GO TEAM JON!!!

motorcitymama said...

They never wanted the dogs. It was a TLC plot that went plotz, and since Victoria Stillwell and Pedigree aren't returning their calls, it's time for them to be written out of the plot. Sad.

Here's a morbid thought--maybe TLC wanted to adopt them a baby but K & J thought better and picked the dogs instead. Kind of makes you wonder what would have happened had "the kids" voted to go that direction

me too said...

enoughalready said...

Anyway, I wish these dogs will be rehomed to a wonderful family who really loves dogs and knows how to appreciate and care for these dogs.


I heard Jon in an interview say he was sending them back to the breeder until he can decide what to do with them.


sara said...

Those poor kids. Isn't it bad enough around there already. Now they don't even have their dogs. Jon and Kate's selfishness has no end.


Maybe the kids were not as broken up about losing the dogs. You know how kids are, they sometimes grow tired of pets when they become their responsibility...and I rarely ever saw the kids really play with the dogs.

TheWholeWorldRealizesKatesFULLofit said...

I would bet everything in my checking account Kate will spin this any of the following ways:

A) The dogs were uncontrollable..(like we are idiots and believe they don't have the money for a trainer)

B) One of the dogs bit/hurt one of the kids...(total lie of course)

C) Her schedule is too busy ...( for dogs... not Larry King, The Today Show, OR the View.)

She pushed Jon out and now the dogs.

Save Shoka and Nala! said...

Gosselin pups for me said...
Does anyone know the name of the breeder? I would take those precious dogs in the drop of a hat.
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Oh, would you? Bless you! As a lover of German Sheps (and all dogs), it seems they should be kept as a pair. I know of two Golden Retrievers raised together whose owner gave them up to our local shelter and the county animal regulation officials refused to adopt them out unless someone would take them as a pair because they were so bonded to one another.

Please, somebody find out who the Delaware breeder is! There's good people out there, as this poster whose comments I've copied, who would reach out to these dogs!

Thank you!!!!

hadenoughofKate said...

I WONDER...would they come take KATE AWAY "if we started making comments" that the kids were hitting HER with bat???!! Let me go first! Please help!! The Gosselin kids are hitting Kate with a plastic bat!! Hurry! 911 !!
(is she gone yet...?) lol
We could be so lucky, right?

me too said...

I'm not sure if Kate made Jon get rid of them. In this video he just says she crated them when he wasn't there.

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6454349132986954975&postID=1411722514840749156&page=1

It seems like he made a decision and did it at a time to take the focus off the Santoro accusations.

me too said...

carolann said...


That wasn't TLC filming. It was Radar.

I don't think so. I think it was the Insider taking the pictures.

alldressedupforprague said...

If you want to read about it without going to radaronline or some similar site, here's a link to the story at Philly's Inquirer's website: http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/pets/Jon_and_Kate_minus_two_pups.html

Twice as Nice said...

Kate must have told Jon to have the dogs gone before she got back from N.Y. That girl is so clever~having Jon get rid of the dogs so he looks like the bad guy. It's been reported that Jon is getting rid of "his dogs." Didn't they get them for the kids as an early Christmas present? Oh, yes, Kate hated them from the start even though SHE had to pick them out and SHE had to name them. So much for doing it for the kids and as a family.

They're asking on The Insider if Jon is a good dad because he got rid of the dogs. Both Jon and Kate are far from model parents but that guy just can't get a brake.

Do either of them take into consideration the heartache for the children? It's all about what they want. Sometimes I think they forget they have children...except for pay day.

Yuck Jon And Kate Go Away! said...

From Micky McKean: "However, I know that if ever there was something that will push people over the edge re "All Things Gosselin" it would be getting rid of the dogs when they obviously have the means and space to keep and take care of them - but KATE cannot be bothered to do so."
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It's also another example how neither Jon or Kate put their children first, ever, despite their transparent attempts to convince us otherwise. If they were two parents truly engaged in the welfare of their children rather than their own selfish pursuits, they would find ways to minimize further trauma. If the kids were being too hard on the dogs, they needed to spend time with the children to teach them how to be kind to the dogs. Educate them on how to love and care for an animal. Isn't that the point of getting a dog for a kid? And don't take yet again ANOTHER thing away from kids who are already feeling insecure about their lives, with feuding parents never in the same place at one time. Haven't the kids suffered enough change over the past months? Do they need to lose the dogs, too? Nothing Kate does surprises me, and it was clear she didn't want the dogs from the get-go other than the photo-op at the breeder's (an episode I refused to watch). But if she truly cared about her kids' feelings and emotional health right now, in their current state of "transition," as kids of divorced parents, wouldn't both she and Jon be trying to minimize MORE big changes? Do they have no desire to even pretend to create an environment of normalcy for eight children? Where is their natural ability to shield and soften the impact of so much change in the lives of very young children? If these kids are exhibiting unacceptable behavior, it seems to me it's merely a result of the chaos in which they're forced to live. I have no respect, NONE, for Jon and Kate Gosselin in how they choose to live their life. I wish the heck they'd get off the pages of my fave magazines and off TV. They're not entertaining, they're not role models and their attitudes are unappealingly smug. They don't do anything to improve my life. What they DO do is ruin the lives of others, namely their kids and their dogs.

fidosmommy said...

Yet another prediction made early on by the GWoP crowd that has come true. As sad as it is, I know the dogs will be better off somewhere else.

Chione said...

I just don't know what to make of this. On one hand, I'm glad that the dogs are out of the Gosselin family. They really weren't ready for one dog, let alone two. I often joke that I own cats because I don't have the mettle to take care of and train dogs; but frankly I don't even think they could cope with a cat, or any animal that required more maintenance or attention than, say, a goldfish.

That being said, the action is completely self-centered without thinking of the children. J&K threw those animals away like they did everyone else who outlived their usefulness on the show. Those animals are NOT props and using them in the short term to boost ratings only to get rid of them afterwards is just setting those poor kids up for even more confusion and heartache. Giving those children friends only to tear them away is despicable.

I don't really know how to feel about this. The entire situation makes me sick :|

MsJess said...

Wow the lasted longer than I thought they would.

Gosselin pups for me said...

Save Shoka and Nala! said...

Gosselin pups for me said...
Does anyone know the name of the breeder? I would take those precious dogs in the drop of a hat.
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Oh, would you? Bless you! As a lover of German Sheps (and all dogs), it seems they should be kept as a pair. I know of two Golden Retrievers raised together whose owner gave them up to our local shelter and the county animal regulation officials refused to adopt them out unless someone would take them as a pair because they were so bonded to one another.

Please, somebody find out who the Delaware breeder is! There's good people out there, as this poster whose comments I've copied, who would reach out to these dogs!

Thank you!!!!

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Thank you back!

Yes, i would definitely take them. I have two greyhound mix babies who were rescues (one as a baby and the other from a kill shelter). They are as much my babies as my human children are. I may not have acreage, but I have a large fenced yard. When we are away I hire a pup sitter who comes to the house to feed, play with , and exercise my babies. If I can do it with my limited means, surely K8 and Jon can
do it!
I certainly feel for these poor pups.

alsoamomtotwins said...

They never, ever should have gotten dogs.

And thank goodness those dogs are going back to the breeder who will hopefully find them a good home.

carolann said...

me too said...

carolann said...


That wasn't TLC filming. It was Radar.

I don't think so. I think it was the Insider taking the pictures.

Okay then. They are also bloodsuckers. My point was that Jon allowed this scum onto his property to film his children saying goodbye to their dogs. He used his kids and the tabloids to try to tell everyone what a meanie Kate is. As far as I've seen it hasn't played out that way. It makes Jon look bad. If the dogs had to go at Kate's insistence why didn't he let her do it when she got back so she could catch all the flack? Jon's story isn't making sense.

fidosmommy said...

These children will grow up with Kate Syndrome. They will be unable to bond to anyone or anything. It's all disposable.
Your "buddy" gets gum on it, throw it out! Your Grandpa gives you little ballet shoe Christmas ornaments with "dustilies" on them and they go out into the yard sale.
Unk and Auntie tick Mom off and they're outta here. Now the dogs.

When will these children be able to trust that they get to have long-term relationships and that you don't dump people, animals or
things of sentimental value?

I have an adopted niece who is unable to bond to anybody, mainly because her birth mother never held her or did normal things. My niece is 28 now and has no friends and no family outside her dad, who is getting on in years. Nobody lasts on her list of acceptable people for more than a few months. She learned that from birth mom.

I fear the same kind of tragic outcome for the Gosselin children.

Sad said...

radaronline is on the TLC/Khate payroll. They are going to portray this as all Jon's fault. I do believe that he loved the dogs. kHate has threatened from the get go to get rid of them. So sad for the kids to come home to no dogs. What will these loosers do next? I guess they've got to drum up ratings some how, Jon's sex scandle with the babysitter and now getting rid of the dogs.

BigDogs said...

This is not at all surprising, except I thought it would happen sooner. Cute puppies become BIG DOGS. Khate does not like big dogs, or big kids. Only puppies and BABIES.
The dogs are MUCh better off. I only hope that their first year of being neglected at the G's has not permanently damaged them for any future families.

crate Kate said...

This has Kate's nasty smell all over it. Yes she is going to spin it and Jon was an idiot to let this be filmed. The dogs in the back of the truck made me choke up, so trusting it's heartbreaking. People can criticize Jon for not finding a dog-friendly apartment in NY, but why would he suspect that Kate would cruelly keep those dogs locked up all day. You have over 20 acres, bitch! But I do agree that Jon does bear some fault here. As horrid and irresponsible and selfish and inhumane as Kate was to those dogs, it was good to separate th from HER. How he could stomach letting them go, with those little doggy eyes staring at him as they left, astonishes me. We already knew Kate, like the Grinch, has no heart. What will the kids get this Christmas? It's almost October!

Aunt Chris said...

The dogs weren't trained, not because the G's couldn't afford it, but because they couldn't be bothered.

I hope the breeder is more careful about who he lets adopt his dogs. Does anyone know if he is a reputable breeder? Looked like a rather large kennel to me - puppy mill? I hope these dear dogs get to stay together but if they don't they will still have a much happy life with folks who will love them.

Ava said...

One little comment that Jon made in the video mentioned the humane suciety coming out and checking on the dogs. I bet the recent video of the girls hitting the dogs with sticks/bats is what happened. HS came out to check up on dogs and so they decided it was best to send the dogs where the kids could not abuse them.
Kids learn to hit from someone and I bet they learned from the red spoon. They say watch out for kids that abuse animals.

enoughalready said...

IMHO - getting rid of the dogs is symbolic of the "culture" or "family dynamics" in that household.
The "use them and ditch them" direction.
The poor kids - they will never learn. They will never learn to value all the material things in their lives.
I predict that KG will use her kids only until its time to end the series and she will pack them off somewhere. This will allow her to focus on herself only and not ever sharing the stage with anyone else.
The "use them and ditch them" applied to family members, various servants, household help, PR and personal assistants, sponsors, husband and now the dogs. Soon, it will be her manservant, then eventually - she will break away from her kids because that is how she designed it.

Im_in_PR said...

It was extremely cruel of Kate to banish those dogs, and deprive her children of the pups, just because she was too lazy to feed them.

Oh wait, it was because she's never home that she wasn't able to feed them.

Another of Kate's lies comes back to haunt her.

kateisadoghater said...

Kate was all shining in her glory on the episode when SHE took credit as the parent who announced to the children that they were getting not ONE, but TWO puppies. Question is, where was Kate when the children were told that not ONE but BOTH dogs would be taken away and returned to the breeder?
Yeah, I thought so.
Im sure Kate will make a pit stop at the FAO store while NYC to pick up some 'conscience' clearing 'puppy' replacements. Stay tuned for a J& K episode update where Kate defends the return of the dogs by saying, 'about 15 minutes after the dogs left, the kids didnt even notice the dogs were gone. One of the tups even said, I never liked them anyways they chewed on my toys.

Laurie said...

K8 will just take them on yet another vacation to make up for getting rid of the dogs. These poor kids are not learning any values. If you don't want it or it's inconvenient, get rid of it.

Gloriie said...

When I read it I blurted out..what about the kids? this is just such a bad time to get rid of the dogs. like one poster said what they cant afford it? makes me so angry at how selfish these people are. Those kids really did love the dogs, Kate was never there so its not like they had to deal with "her" I'm sure I'm not the only one who had dogs growing up and I have great memories of our dogs. Those kids lose everything they love because those people don't give a rats bum about what the kids want... or need for that matter.

I'm sad, too said...

I'm sad said...
The Gosselin orphanage is where happiness goes to die.
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I can't get out of my mind how you so succinctly summed up my feelings, so much that your comment bears repeating.

Mike R. said...

I wish those dogs could talk.

AnneMarie said...

Fits with Kate's comments about the dogs at the Cleveland show.

Poor Kids.

Anyone else seen next week's INTouch magazine cover? If it's true, no WONDER Kate had a hissy over Jon's choice of sitters!

chesterctymom said...

Someone asked Khate about the dogs while she was yapping in Cleveland, and she said something like "more will be revealed"...Khate knew this day was coming.

Nasty Games Adults Can Play said...

wkh said...
that's weird... I mean come now, like they can't afford a trainer or dog caretaker? I was actually always kind of surprised they didn't have Cesar on there, like the American Chopper guys or the Ace of Cakes place.
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I was thinking about what you said above; my thoughts exactly. However, considering the intense animosity between Jon and Kate (just think about it; the war of words alone), they are out for the kill, no doubt about it. They hate each other. If Jon tried to arrange a caretaker for the dogs when Kate's in-house, she'd probably block the person at the gate the way Jon did her when SHE wanted in. Childish and vindictive behavior, with no thoughts at all about how it affects their kids, as usual.

Jon appeared to be the one of the 10 who was primary caregiver/owner to the dogs. Giving him benefit of doubt, which I'm hesitant to do in most cases lately, he could be losing sleep thinking about how the dogs were being treated while he was away. Poor dogs' bladders were probably bursting before she'd let them out of their crates. NO dog deserves that kind of treatment. NO life for them. So, perhaps he really did do the most humane thing for them in light of the Gosselin couple's completely messed-up life. He wouldn't have been able to count on even 8-year-olds to properly look after the dogs (most kids that age need a little supervision when it comes to dogs). So, I'm thinking Jon had to take the bull by the horns and do what even HE didn't want to do but what was the only recourse for the animals. I don't want to think that Jon did this to make Kate look bad in front of the kids and further give her bad publicity in the tabloids. It's all so sordid and ugly. The kids and dogs are caught in the crossfire.

Watch Kate go out now and get another dog to make herself look good, under the guise of doing it "all for the kids" because the kids were so sad that Daddy took away Nala and Shoka. I can just see the manipulation coming. She wanted a non-shedding poodle, if y'all recall.

Anonymous said...

what a christmas gift for the gosselin kids, huh? i knew right from the begining it was a bad idea to get the dogs. i thought it was also TERRIBLE that the dogs were as kate stated "there only chritmas gifts" when most of the kids did not even want them and now there gone !

Please, Please GO AWAY said...

I wish Jon would use his Twitter account to counter every accusation she makes against him with facts. (From Sugarpop)
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Just an aside but, thinking about what you said above, I can't even imagine how exhausting it is to be in a constant defensive position and to be forced to watch somebody else's every move to protect yourself from them spouting trash about you. Maybe the lawyers are up on that, but what a horrible way to live, for either Jon or Kate. They need to just shut up and get on with their lives...and get out of ours.

Not A Laughing Matter, but said...

Jon wanted them for security around the mansion. She'll have to sleep with both ears open now, unless she has hired Steve to wear a dog collar and roam around the acreage keeping watch for intruders.
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Gotta say, I'm laughing through my tears with this image!

PatK said...

Perhaps the dogs growled at Stunning Steve too many times?

me too said...

Does anyone else wonder why Jon does some things Kate tells him to do, but not others? I mean why would he choose to stand up to Kate for some things that seem pretty unimportant to me and yet things that are so very important he doesn't.

The dogs for example. If he loves the dogs and still wants to live in NY he could hire someone to take care of them when he isn;t there. At the very least he could kennel them. Some kennels are known for being very kind and loving to animals at their facilities.

Instead he says Kate made him saying she won't take care of them when he isn't there.

I just wish his standing up to Kate had been in the form of doing what was best for his family while they were one.

Team 8 said...

According to the episode, the dogs were for the children, and the children were supposed to look after them. If the dogs aren't being looked after when the kids are with Kate, I blame Kate entirely for not teaching the children to live up to their commitments. Jon is a pig for not insisting Kate do one thing for her children by taking care of the dogs.

crate Kate said...

I've reserved commenting on this until I found out Kate named the dogs, but I've always wondered if Shoka was named after the Hawaiian greeting, Shaka. I figured since they just came back from Hawaii when they got the dogs this made sense. I didn't see the episode when they got/named the dogs and figured if the dog's name was misspelled, it was probably because the kids named him (or her). Now that I know Kate named the pooches, it all makes sense. That is one stooooooopid uneducated illiterate ignorant woman. I want to smack her with a bat. She is a great big bowl of wrong.

THIS IS MY LAST POST -SO DONE WITH THESE IDIOTS said...

These people are trash-- pure and simple.


They make a joke of the word family. I am so done with all of this. So done.

Oh-- and Paula Deen-- if you are listening, if you team up with the likes of Kate Gosselin, you are not the person I thought you were. A bad rep, all for a talk show??

Sick I tell ya. Sick

Kate's the bitch said...

Kate may have finally met her match: those dogs. She has just inflamed the animal lovers of the world. And no one who has ever loved a dog would fall for her PR crap. No, they were not always Jon's dogs; they were yours too and more importantly, your kids'. That you, Kate, could treat them so callously shows how little your children's happiness means to you and how evil you truly are. No animal lover will believe for a second that Jon was the bad guy here. And as heartbreaking as it is, he acted responsibly today by giving the dogs back to the breeder. Would he done this if you, Kate, had treated those dogs with love? Come on, God, where is the karma?

ILLinIllinois said...

First of all, blame TLC entirely for this fiasco. This was a little bit thought up in the writers room for TV's "Most Realist Reality Show". They were running out of ideas, and KNEW Kate HATED animals but went ahead and got those dogs as a "storyline".....TLC SUCKS.

And I personally couldn't stomach anyone who could possibly hate a dog as much as Kate....it speaks of a completely selfish, self-centered creature. Kate SUCKS.

vbx said...

Seems like everyone on Radar supports Kate. Whereas on this blog, people are sick of both Kate and Jon, more-so of Kate.

Lets see, who would TLC and Kate's PR people, focus their time and effort on?

a Blog, or a Site that gets heavy traffic such as USMAG and Radar?

Well, if you look at the replies on both USMAG and Radar, they are all short comments.

Compare to this site, where the comments are longer written with more time put into it.

Seems like the bots are working hard on those sites.

Ohio Buckeye said...

CrateKate said, "...she's a great big bowl of wrong" - I'm LOL and my German Shepherd is looking at me, head tilted, with his "WTH?" expression. Thanks for the :)

zoey said...

i sure hope their is a LOT of media buzz tomorrow about this.. and perhaps it will be a HOT TOPIC on the View friday when kate is there.. i love to see her squirm

enoughalready said...

Everyone - its all about POWER and CONTROL - who gets the last say, who gets the final word, who's decision is it, who gets listened to, who gets it done her way - when where and how.

gigglez said...

Jon is an idiot. Why in the hell would he do the dirty work? If Kate's wants the dog out, let her handle it. Everything Jon does will give every excuse for the media to bash him.

Kate is one sneaky person. She knew this would enraged the media and get Jon more bad publicity.

careaboutthekids said...

Jay Leno just trashed Kate big time!! Hooray for him!

HJTJ said...

Mike R. said...
I wish those dogs could talk.
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Kate probably made them put a paw mark on a confidentiality agreement as soon as they brought them home!

Organic Lollipops said...

I'm baa-aa-aack~~ This insane new twist has brought me back to rant again.

Obviously they could have paid for someone to come over and run those animals every day. It's not the worst thing in the world for them to be in a kennel most of the time. As long as they get a lot of exercise and a little attention, they can be fine. What do you think the life of a watchdog is like? Many excellent Sheps have been kenneled watchdogs. J&K could have paid lip service to being dog owners, had (relatively) happy dogs and the kids would have been none the wiser. Why on earth would they remind the kids (again) that life is full of LOSS?

A while ago I couldn't help but notice that many people posted how the video of J pulling away and the dogs barking wildly was evidence of how much the dogs were upset that he was leaving and they would be left home with Kate. Sorry... as a multiple dog owner for many years I disagreed then and I do now. They were just improperly trained, period. No dog should be allowed to bark hysterically at a car pulling out- especially a pup. In this case, the barking just added to the general stress level around the ol' picnic area/driveway, and no one even attempted to control the dogs.

I don't think it's the best thing for anyone that this has happened. Kids lose, dogs lose, and there will be a ripple effect as sheeple think of their own dogs as expendable. Watch- it will happen. Anyone who adorns themselves with a chunk stripe reverse mullet, dresses in a baby doll with cork heels, and fawns all over Kate at her BS "talks" is going to copy this behavior, too.

readerlady said...

@aunt chris
large kennel does not = "puppy mill" That kennel was too clean and spacious and the animals much too well-cared for to be a "mill". Also, a "mill" wouldn't take the dogs back. Only a responsible breeder would do that.

I'm sad that the dogs are going back. I feel sorry for Mady and Cara, especially. They're the ones who seemed to be bonded to the dogs the most, besides Jon. However, given that Khate kept the dogs confined to a small crate most of the time when she was there, they are much better off going back. With all that acreage, though, they could have built a comfortable, safe and spacious dog run and hired someone to come and feed/water the dogs when no one was home.

readerlady said...

Sorry, pushed send before I finished my post. This really makes me wonder (although I have in passing all along), whatever happened to the 2 cats J&K had when they first got married. Did they just dump them?

zoey said...

KATE! im sure the 100 members of the paparazzi that you claim are outside your property 24/7 would have taken your dogs on a poop run!

shel said...

radaronline comments are blaming jon for giving the dogs back but when one of the kids hit the dog with the bat and it cowarded away I believe the kids and dogs were under Kates watch. Maybe he is trying to protect the dogs. do you think kate carest he dogs are gone I am sure if everything they do is for the kids shewould of made the dogs. just because a parent has custody for a certain week doesnt mean they can give family pets away. does it?

TooLittleTooL8 said...

So they got dogs that they never should have in the first place - I have seen this before, I have known people to have a couple/few small kids and then they have a new house and their portrait of suburban bliss will not be COMPLETE without a DOG, or even TWO. (Sound familiar?) Lots of complaining follows, about a situation they brought on themselves and had been advised against. Relocation, generally the end result. I have four young children and no dogs... not until they're older.

The only team I'm on is the kids'. There is no excuse for the parents. It's hard for me to believe that they are not, on some level, delighted that their hours on the clock as parents have been dramatically reduced. "Me time" at last! Why didn't they think of this sooner!

The only way I will "side" with either of the parents is when one of them sides with their own flesh and blood and pulls the plug on their sinking horror of a show. And right now it looks like they are both willing to go down with the ship.

Go Away Gosselins! said...

And Kate, "forced" Jon to return the dogs so the media pounce all over him..

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I don't think Kate "forces" Jon to do anything anymore. Jon has clearly said she isn't going to boss him around anymore so he is half as responsible for getting rid of the dogs as she is (plus his NYC apartment is dog friendly....he's the one who chose to live out of state in the middle of Manhattan).

Kate can't control Jon anymore and that is part of the problem. I'm sure she hates that she can't control him.

Jon isn't forced to do anything anymore. He is making his own decisions and should be held accountable for them.

MissysMom said...

I want to say I'm shocked at this latest development, but really, we all knew how the venom spitter felt about dogs and how fake her excitement was during the breeder episode. Dogs are as icky to her as boys are. Only hairier.

And we all also know that it will be turned into a "See what your daddy did?" story.

God, this bunch of yay-hoo's get worse and worse.

One thing I did notice in one photo that hasn't been mentioned is how the darker pup is standing by the truck with its tail and head down, like it's waiting for a blow. Poor things.

I have to say I'm glad they're going away from Gosselinville. I also hope they get adopted together. They've had enough heartache in their lives.

Just being in the same vicinity as the mullet woman would make ME want to open a vein....

Gosselins Upset My Stomach said...

If he loves the dogs and still wants to live in NY he could hire someone to take care of them when he isn;t there. At the very least he could kennel them. Some kennels are known for being very kind and loving to animals at their facilities. (MeToo said)
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Actually, your idea is a good one. Every time he left, he could have just had the dogs jump in the car, with a permanent arrangement at a kennel. I've got neighbors who do it all the time. And they don't have nearly the money of Jon and Kate Gosselin. So, there's gotta be more to this story. Maybe it really is about the kids not being nice to the dogs, even when Jon is there. In that case, it's the parents' fault for not teaching their young children how to be kind to animals. Instead of working that issue, it was easier to just package the dogs up back to the breeder? Who knows, maybe the orphanage house is going up for sale or something. Plans made with no thought in mind for the poor, lowly dogs.

Well, sad as this is, the dogs will probably/hopefully be better off than to remain with this bunch.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"'ve reserved commenting on this until I found out Kate named the dogs, but I've always wondered if Shoka was named after the Hawaiian greeting, Shaka."

The dog was named after a body guard.

Suzanne said...

The acquisition of those beautiful guard dogs, bar none, exhibited the wisest tactical effort ever made to protect those children and property. It was a stroke of genius on someone's part, I doubt that it was either parent, given Jon's readiness to relinquish them. I am shocked by the position it now puts his family in, broadcasting to the world that the threat of trained, loyal canines no longer exists. Idiots.

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

This is so sad for the children. All of those kids are going to need therapy. First, the kids learn about their parents divorce, and then the dogs going back. Not one dog, but both dogs. How heartless can Jon and Kate be? Both of them have enough money to pay someone to come and take care of the dogs. I'm sure that those kids are crying themselves to sleep every night. The lose of a pet to a child is very deep. I can't believe that Jon and Kate have done this to their children.

ErinKate said...

So does that mean the kids are now owed a Christmas gift because their gift was returned?

Aholes, both of them and TLC is filled with bloodsuckers.

Yolanda said...

What I don't understand is why couldn't they have just adopted ONE dog. Why two? Does everything have to multiples in their family?

Sheesh!

2badsosad said...

Aunt Chris said...
The dogs weren't trained, not because the G's couldn't afford it, but because they couldn't be bothered.

Agree 100% ! IMO, the dogs were NOT JON'S dogs, but (per the puppy episode)Christmas gifts that BOTH J & K gave the children. If I recall correctly, Kate even asks the children if they are going to TAKE CARE of the dogs ie help feed them, brush them, pick up after them. I ask. Where is the parental initiative here?? Regardless if KATE did not have the time or disliked the dogs or Jon only being at the home 'part time' there are EIGHT children and a staff of helpers living in the home fully capable of being EDUCATED AND INSTRUCTED how to care for the dogs. I know many 5 and 8 eight year olds that are given the daily chore of walking, feeding and picking up after the family dog. The difference here, is that the above mentioned family dog(s) were/are just that, treated and cared for as PART OF THE FAMILY, not something considered easily disgardable because they are annoying or an inconvenience; the children have been TAUGHT and held to a standard of responsibility that comes with being a pet owner. The sole problem here isnt that KATE didnt have time, but JON AND KATE didnt, wouldnt and couldnt come together as parents and #1 TEACH BY EXAMPLE and hold their children accountable for being a pet owner and the responsibilities that come with taking care of a pet. Interesting that J & K feel their children are of the ability to make their OWN choice regarding their participation in a reality tv show, but are of the inexperience to care for the family pet. #2 Surely between the various brand new cars, staff of helpers, luxery spa days etc..J & K can manage to fit in to their budget a pet professional to come twice/three times a week and assist with the care and needs of the dogs. #3 I agree with previous posters who say that the removal of the dogs is just another example of many of how easily disposable people and 'things' are to the J & K Gosselin family. If they or it gets in the way, just get it the hell out of here! Regardless of the potential emotional and mental consequences it may have on the children.
Well, at least the dogs have been released from a life of being locked in a cage, too bad the same cannot be said for the eight Gosselin children.

MissysMom said...

Suzanne said......


The acquisition of those beautiful guard dogs, bar none, exhibited the wisest tactical effort ever made to protect those children and property. It was a stroke of genius on someone's part, I doubt that it was either parent, given Jon's readiness to relinquish them. I am shocked by the position it now puts his family in, broadcasting to the world that the threat of trained, loyal canines no longer exists. Idiots.

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I never thought of that. Boy, that scares me for those kids. The big K could get carted off by hyenas (who I think she's distantly related to) and I wouldn't shed a tear. But those kids??? Eeek.

lindahoyt said...

Thank you for making a thread just for this subject.

This is a horrible turn of events for the children, and the loyal dogs.

My 10 year old German shepherd died of liver cancer a couple of years ago. He raised my children, and took his job seriously! These dogs are very loyal and faithful. My dog was actually stolen, and came home 3 weeks later, with a broken rope tied around his neck...he loved us and would not be separated from us!

These dogs will be as confused as the children will be. This is so horrible. The dogs were the kids' Christmas presents, for heaven's sake!

My heart bleeds for the kids. They may seem as if they do not care...which is how these kids are going to learn to behave with everyone and everything in their lives from now on. They will learn not to care about anything, because everyone and everything they have ever loved, has been driven away by their mother. But you can be sure that this is another stake in their little hearts.

For the entertainment of America, 8 little children are systematically being destroyed, bit by bit.

Is everyone enjoying themselves as much as Jon and Kate are?

where's Jon No more Kate said...

I posted something like this at Radar Online.

"Let's see if you print my comment. Everyone knows that Kate hates the dogs. All they have to do is watch any of the outside programs that have been filmed.Jon knows how she treats them. This shows he does care and in his interview he said the breeder was taking them back until he could decide what to do about them.He said his lease did not allow dogs and he had not realized they would not be able to stay in Pa."

Of course if you watch the program where they got the dogs Kate took over until they peed on the floor then it was just a matter of time. I think I'm going to go back and write this- Beth gone, Jody gone Kevin gone- Grandparents gone-Jon gone- are the kids still there?

see if they print that

lindahoyt said...

If Kate is a shrewd as we all think she is, she would do well to go and get the dogs, and bring them back...she would certainly make herself look like the better parent for doing so!

lindahoyt said...

Go away fools...actually, you have touched on a fact. Kids actually would think that if the dogs were taken away, that it is a possibility that they too could be hauled off, if their parents feel like they are in the way and too much trouble.

Couple that with the fact that when parents divorce, or people disappear from their lives, even in death; kids internalize these events, and think it is all their fault! Jon and Kate fed into those feelings when Jon said that his 20's were 'lost' because of them; and their mom said on tv that the couple divorced because they had "multiples"....the parents actually blamed the kids, in so many words, what else can the little ones feel?!

This family is a recipe on how to raise emotionally disturbed children.

goawyJandK said...

The acquisition of those beautiful guard dogs, bar none, exhibited the wisest tactical effort ever made to protect those children and property. It was a stroke of genius on someone's part, I doubt that it was either parent, given Jon's readiness to relinquish them. I am shocked by the position it now puts his family in, broadcasting to the world that the threat of trained, loyal canines no longer exists. Idiots.


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Don't forget that Jon also told the world how he thinks K8 is hiding thousands of dollars in the house.

Run Shoka and Nala said...

Run Shoka and Nala, run! Seriously, I am thrilled those beautiful dogs are gone. Kate loathed them, the kids were cruel to them, leaving only Jon to love them. Now with him gone so much, I've actually thought of the misery those dogs are dealing with, while in Kate's care. We know she caged them, without a care. She said, "That's where dogs belong!". I really don't feel sorry for the kids after seeing how the dogs cower around them from the abuse. The Gosselin kids are getting more spoiled by the day. Trip after trip, luxury after luxury. What a mess! I do hope Shoka & Nala can stay together, wherever they end up. Hope the breeder has some sense and knows the importance of this.

lindahoyt said...

"Miz SD said...
J&K didn't think twice about throwing away eight childhoods; what are two dogs?"


Oh gosh, you are right.

theydon'thavehearts said...

Everyone that is outraged about the dogs should look into the horses they go rid of when they moved into the mansion.

WHEN they bought the property it was with the agreement that they keep the horses that lived there.

They did, for about two weeks until they realized it was too much work...then they shipped them off.

Imagine horses living there for years and entrusted into J&K's care and they just ship them off one day.

Those poor horses most likley ended up at New Holland. So sad.

toostupidtocare said...

Good move Kate. Everyone knows you are a "single mother", now the world knows you don't have any protection living on the estate.

Good one. Hope you don't think that stupid security system is enough. This area is seriously lacking in police manpower.

Way to go.

where's Jon No more Kate said...

Well they did publish my comments on Radar Online and tonight in the last 30 minutes I can honestly say there's a good crowd on there. Very different than usual...Also they only allow comments with 250 characters so that explains why the comments are short.

where's Jon No more Kate said...

Finally a lawyer speaks for Jon, sounds like he's ready to go get em.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b144562_new_lawyer_comes_save_jon_gosselins_day.html

Mikemom52 said...

Is it possible the dogs finally snapped and bit one of the kids or Kate? The way the dogs were treated by the family, pulling on their tales, hitting them with bats, who knows maybe Kate hit one of them with her wooden spoon.....Just speculating

A Dog Mom said...

When our beloved old dog died last year my adult son cried, my husband cried and I cried. He was a member of the family. We've got a new little guy now and even though we've only had him since May we would be devistated if anything were to happen to him.

Kate there are many, many animal overs out there and you've just alinated all of them. I feel so very, very sorry for the kids losing their pets and I feel sorry for the dogs becasue they've lost their humans. Excuse me while I go and hug my puppy!!!

Cassie said...

This is getting downright creepy. These people have no conscience and no care for how their decisions impact those sweet little kids.

The history of Jon & Kate Plus FAKE is riddled with destructive, phony-baloney stunts like this. The FAKE wedding vows ("Mommy and Daddy will be together FOREVER"), the FAKE family ("we don't need anyone else"), the FAKE commitment to two animals that the children LOVED.

Does anyone else find it mucho ironic that TLC in all its wisdom showed a re-run on the puppy episode just two nights ago?

"Thank you, Mommy," those sweet little kids said.
"You're not welcome," said their pathetic shrew of a mother.

Truer words were never spoken by our gal Khate.

A Better Life said...

LindaHoyt said, "If Kate is a shrewd as we all think she is, she would do well to go and get the dogs, and bring them back...she would certainly make herself look like the better parent for doing so!"
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Hope she does NOT ever bring the dogs back. She hated the dogs from day one, and with a property of that magnitude, had the gall to put them both in a small cage for hours on end every day she was there alone with the kids. It was a troublesome and cruel life for Shoka and Nala. So happy they are gone, but I know they will miss Jon.

zee said...

vbx said...
Seems like everyone on Radar supports Kate. Whereas on this blog, people are sick of both Kate and Jon, more-so of Kate.


A lot of us aren't going there anymore.



I'm sad said...

The Gosselin orphanage is where happiness goes to die.


It's such a sad day and you said it perfectly.

kate is a cocky bitch said...

Maybe the bitch got a good bite right in her bee-hind. I just hope Shoke & Nona got 1 last bite for the road.

CK said...

Why should Kate bother to get a dog trainer? She doesn't even care her children have speech delay and other development problems. Dog trainer?

kate is a cocky bitch said...

can I also say that there is nothing wrong with buying a dog. I have found shelters to be filthy and run by lazy and not very well informed people. I would much rather know where my dog comes from and how they are being treated and if I have to pay for it fine.

Not The Kids' Fault said...

I have read this topic’s comments from the beginning to the end and I’ve copied off a few which gave me the greatest pause (thanks to all the various authors of the comments): “These kids are going to be so screwed up; everything they have come to love is being ripped away from them…”/“…returning the dogs might very well save the kids from a dangerous dog bite, given the road they were already going down with the mistreatment of the dogs…”/“TMZ showed the kids hitting them with a plastic bat and the Humane society was notified.”/“I was actually glad that the dogs were given back. From what I've read the dogs were in cages or being hit by the kids. Rarely were they seen running around unless Jon was home.”/“If it's a case where the children were rough and abusive to the dogs, then the children need some very serious counseling.”/“My heart breaks for the kids, as even though they may have been hitting them with bats (that is the PARENTS’ fault for not teaching them how to treat pets).”/“Maybe the kids were not as broken up about losing the dogs. You know how kids are, they sometimes grow tired of pets when they become their responsibility...and I rarely ever saw the kids really play with the dogs.”

And, finally, from the always-spot-on Linda Hoyt: “This family is a recipe on how to raise emotionally disturbed children.”

How many months have so many of us blogged over concern about the emotional wellbeing of eight kids imprisoned by a camera and, of late, caught in the middle of two warring, divorcing parents? Concerns are apparently well-founded as the above comments reveal. The kids’ behavior toward the dogs is disturbing, but are we surprised, considering what their life is like and what a turmoil of emotions churn within their brains and hearts? Just what exactly ARE Jon and Kate doing that’s so great for their kids? If I hear one more time, “everything I do is for my kids,” I truly am going to go scream my head off in a field. The kids would seem to be frustrated and confused by what their parents “do” for them! Too many changes and events are swirling around these young children and they’re being sucked into the abyss. The teen years loom. Look out.

Ann said...

Paul Deen

Watch out! Kate will kick your dog when you are not watching. That woman is cold. You don't want to have anything to do with her.

Have Hope For Shoka And Nala said...

Melanie P. said...
I hope those dogs aren't too messed up from their experience in Hell.

BigDogs: I only hope that their first year of being neglected at the G's has not permanently damaged them for any future families.

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I know a little bit about this kind of situation. I've adopted about fifteen special-needs dogs and cats in 20 years of informal rescue. Two dogs were recommended for euthanasia and not candidates for rehabilitation. Ages of my adopted pets have run anywhere from 9 weeks to 10 years. My mother adopted an orphaned cat when he was age 12. Dogs and cats can go thru much abuse and neglect yet still be loving, loyal, forgiving. They ask for so little. I'm sure Shoka and Nala are bewildered but they're young and I think they can adjust to new surroundings. German Sheps are sensitive and intelligent; won't be easy for them, but with good hands-on attention from a committed family, they'll probably do fine. I do think it's very important they be adopted or sold as a pair. Jon should make it a stipulation while he's trying to figure out what to do.

dog lover said...

I don't feel sorry for the kids they lose the dogs. The kids are too spoiled to enjoy playing dogs now. They don't even love those dogs, they beat their dogs, remember? The kids are so corrupted they only want more toys and material things now. It's sad but true.

You are here feeling bad for the kids. The kids are probably jumping the chance to ask for material compensation from their mother because Kate sent the dogs away. Maybe Kate bribed them to agree on sending the dog away by giving them more cool toys and gadgets paid by sponsors or TLC.

Kate is a cheapskate said...

She can afford spa treatment and the new things she bought for herself, she can't afford a dog trainer or part-time dog caretaker? Come on! A dog caretaker is paid minimum wage.

The Dogs Didn't "Perform?" said...

frometownmom2: " We were surprised they got dogs as our one neighbor's dog got loose and when on their property Kate told them they were "not dog people" and the one neighbor's dog would go to the border and the children would yell over how their mother didn't like dogs. When we learned they got dogs, we figured it was for protection at their new estate."
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A picture is forming as I've run through the comments on this topic, and I don't like what I'm seeing. It's beginning to sound like the only reason they got dogs was for protection on the mansion property and then, when it turned out the dogs weren't overly-protective, they weren't useful, so they got dumped. This wouldn't be the dogs' fault; they weren't trained formally as guard dogs (were they?). When you consider the numbers of people going in and out of that property...a revolving door of production people, household/yard workers, etc....and the dogs probably being constantly shushed for barking at them, it's not hard to see that the dogs could no longer discern who was a guest and who was not. The dog doesn't have that kind of logic, no matter how smart.

chiwawa said...

I saw it coming. They should have gotten smaller dogs which don't grow big, like toy dogs. Smaller dogs might have a chance to stay.

*db* said...

Stranger yet is the early show last week before the new show @ 9:00 was when they got the dogs?
Sounds like something was planned....

I came from a family with 8 kids and we had two different German Shepherds growing up (both ingeniously named "SHEP" by us kids and not our parents, and they were very gentle and loving and protective....but then again they weren't caged in kennels or beaten with toys!

Kallies said...

If Jon really cared about those dogs, he would've found an apartment where he could have them there the days he is there.

And naturally treat your children how to properly treat an animal. But that would be too much work for a busy man, such as Jon.

*db* said...

Maybe the kids were not as broken up about losing the dogs. You know how kids are, they sometimes grow tired of pets when they become their responsibility...and I rarely ever saw the kids really play with the dogs.

I've watched the video of the Jon getting rid of the dogs and loading them in a truck. The kids just said goodbye from the door then turned and went in the house? No tears, no crying...why do they have to go?? Nothing, it seemed to mean very little to them, at least at that moment.
So sad that they are so used to people and now dogs going in and out of their lives regularly that they barely have any attachments at all. Kids have a way of protecting themselves.
Keep up the good work Jon and Khate, your kids will grow up to make life long relationships just like you! NOT! They are already showing signs of detaching themselves!

And Jon, if you truly want those dogs, get rid of your NY apartment and rent a house in the country near your kids! Problem solved...

jasmine said...

I have to wonder how TLC will handle the dogs being gone. Maybe they will flash something across the screen (like the divorce announcement) or Kate will be sitting in her chair with a tissue and fake tears. Hopefully, no small animals or pets will be given to them again. They will only end up neglected, abused or dead. There is one cow and a pig living in the house. That's enough.

So Sad said...

How long until the kids figure out all the lies they were told. Mommy and Daddy are getting remarried to show we will be together forever. You can't name your dogs because we will have them for years and years. How sad for the kids. This last year has been a nightmare. Kate says she is taking the high road but all of her actions point to just blaming Jon for everything. Jon didn't want the dogs, yeah right. He probably feared for Shoka and Nala's safety when they were alone with Kate. The dogs will be fine but what about those poor kids.

*db* said...

Khate does state on the show when they got the dogs that she told the kids, I think Cara and Mady, that if they don't take care of the dogs, then they would get rid of them.
Guess the kids didn't do their chores.....and mean ole mom certainly wasn't going to clean up after them, that's why they were probably crated most of the time, so she didn't have to walk around cleaing up the poo. She could barely even diaper her own babies, how is she going to clean up after dogs? Khate is mean, selfish and spiteful and Jon is an overgrown teenager that needs to stop and figure things out instead of acting like a doormat all the time then crying about it.

I'd like to think this is temporary for the dogs and Jon is trying to find a solution for keeping the dogs, but I highly doubt it.....I'm going to have to see that to believe it.

Rosie said...

First she gets rid of the Grandparents (on both sides), then she gets rid of Uncle Kevin and Aunt Jody (who the kids bonded with and loved) then she gets rid of Beth ( who the kids bonded with and loved) then she gets rid of Dad, now she has gotten rid of the dogs. Is she really that jealous of her kids loving and bonding with someone besides her? And it seems that every picture that is shown of her with the kids it is a different not-a-nanny. what is she taking away next?!

ABadViewofKate said...

The kids were shown hitting the dogs [with plastic bats]?

Scares me to wonder WHERE they got that behavior from.

Jon is going to completely get nailed for this, regardless of what excuse he uses - i.e. "Kate doesn't take care of them when I am not there." [which I believe]

The fault lies with TLC for using those pups for yet another FALSE episode [wedding renewal anyone?]

Do everyone a favor and drop off the RADAR J&K. Your kids will thank you.

I know the dogs are thrilled to be away from you two - just wonder how you all will feel when your kids are just as thrilled.

livnluv said...

With divorce comes major life changes. And the divorce is about to be finalized with everyone jockeying for position. The dogs are better off. It wouldn't surprise me if the house goes next. It seems to be a big no-no to film inside and they're running out of ideas to film outside. kate doesn't want to spend all her money on a house that doesn't make her more money and Jon was never allowed to live in the house anyway. Yes, it's supposed to be the kids house but then, they were supposed to have been the kids dogs and mommy and daddy were supposed to have been together forever. Divorce settlements are a bitch at best and seldom "what's best for the kids" no matter how many times they say it.

TLC is more than happy to continue this farce on any level that makes the most money. They're kicking Jon out because he's become a liability (he'll be better off). They're playing Kate like a puppet on a string as they dangle money and fame in front of her nose (and her nose just gets longer and longer). LK said it best when he asked her, "why are you letting TLC run your life?" kate is greedy enough to either not see it or not care.

And the kids and pets are considered nothing but collateral damage. How sick is that...

sadforkids said...

Here's a scary thought:

Dogs: cute when puppies, not so cute when bigger...conclusion - get rid of them

Kids: cute when babies, not so cute when bigger...conclusion - hmmmm

Everything in the kid's lives is for an ulterior motive (production value). They are going to have major trust issues as adults when they realize their lives were nothing but smoke screens and mirrors for someone else's bank account.

crabbygirl said...

It just seems sad to me with all the major drama the kids have been put thru by BOTH parents they are now losing their dogs. It seems like they are taught that every relationship they have is disposable.

crabbygirl said...

I forgot to add I truly hope the dogs are given the love and attention they so deserve in their new home.

readerlady said...

Several people upthread have criticized Jon for doing what Khate ordered and returning the dogs to their breeder. While I'm appalled by the whole thing, my take is that Jon did what Khate ordered because he couldn't trust her with the dogs. He wanted to make sure that they were cared for properly and not just turned loose or taken to a shelter. That would be a real tragedy.

this will said...

Alright high road taker, how does promising your children puppies for Christmas, getting the pups, not training or loving the pups, refusing to show even the bare bottom levels of concern for those dogs thus resulting in the dogs leaving your kids constitute doing ANYTHING for your kids, bitch? Why get the dogs in the first place? Not enough to whine about and yell at? And you can try to spin this as Jon's fault but your kids were there and they know who engineered this debacle. When you are old and decrepit, Kate, those kids have learned that all things are disposable, including you. Hope you like the jello in the cut rate nursing home. Maybe some kids will come and keep you company, just not your own. They'll be busy selling the story of Kate's sad last days to the tabloids.

They'd Had Horses? said...

theydon'thavehearts said...
Everyone that is outraged about the dogs should look into the horses they got rid of when they moved into the mansion. WHEN they bought the property it was with the agreement that they keep the horses that lived there. They did, for about two weeks until they realized it was too much work...then they shipped them off. Imagine horses living there for years and entrusted into J&K's care and they just ship them off one day. Those poor horses most likely ended up at New Holland. So sad.
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You sound like a local; I don't know what New Holland is but it doesn't sound good. I'd never heard about horses. I've got feral cats on my hillside I feed and I wouldn't even leave them to a successive owner of my house. You just can't count on what other people might do, despite what they say. You're right. It's so sad. Not the first time that the Gosselins say one thing and do another.

NewWester said...

For those who are worried about the Gosselins not having the two dogs around as protection. Maybe they had to go because a "Silver Fox" aka Steve is planning to move in..... Kate would be so scared to be all alone with the children in such a big house. She is a star and needs protection. Bleech!!!!

the_Tin_Man said...

I wonder how surprised the Breeder was to get that call from Kate saying they would be returning the dogs?

Ok, probably not so surprised.

I bet he was SHOCKED when Kate asked for a refund on the donation they made when they got them though.

"Here are the Dogs, now when can I expect a Check?"

KatesBigFlintstoneToe said...

Can someone please post the link for the video of the kids hitting the dogs with bats/sicks? I can't find it. Thanks

Can't See Sheep said...

chesterctymom said...

...they were just props...

goawayfools said...

The kids better behave or Kate may drop them off at the fertility doctor's house.
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both, exactly what I was thinking

Actually it might be better for the children if they were dropped off at the fertility doc's house, he might not exploit them & actually give them a loving, stable home, something they've never known.



Not A Laughing Matter, but said...

Jon wanted them for security around the mansion. She'll have to sleep with both ears open now, unless she has hired Steve to wear a dog collar and roam around the acreage keeping watch for intruders.
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Gotta say, I'm laughing through my tears with this image!
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lmao!!!!!!! I wonder if he's paid to bark & sniff her butt too



HJTJ said...

Mike R. said...
I wish those dogs could talk.
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Kate probably made them put a paw mark on a confidentiality agreement as soon as they brought them home!
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lmao! just plain lmao!

Can't See Sheep said...

Jake said...

I wish Jon would use his Twitter account to counter every accusation she makes against him with facts.

Facts? Jon is hardly the pillar of honesty and integrity. Sorry but he has been photographed with too many women in too many questionable situations for me to believe what he has to say.
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After 10 years with that harpy, it's probably going to take him awhile to figure out what a relationship with a real woman is like. He probably has no clue as to what a real woman is.

nanb said...

Radaronline has an article in which they talk to the breeder

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/09/exclusive-gosselin-dog-breeder-will-keep-dogs-indefinitely

for those who want to not go to the site here it is:



Jon and Kate Gosselin have already broken up the family and now they're giving away the dogs, so their eight children have got to be hurting. But don't worry about the dogs, Shoka and Nola, it seems they're going to be just fine.


"They want a hot dog," breeder Jeff Christopher told RadarOnline.com exclusively, with the dogs barking in the background. "I've got them for an undetermined amount of time. There was no discussion of a time when Jon is going to pick them up. Nothing is final."


In the Jon & Kate Plus 8 episode clip Kate expresses concern about the dog's training, and that's no surprise to those that know her. "Kate is an orderly kind of person," Christopher told RadarOnline.com. "She was never concerned about the dogs, she just wanted to train them, and so this time with the dogs gives me extra time to train them. They're at the perfect age for training, but they're family dogs so their training won't be that advanced."


Christopher told us he is planning to watch the 15 month old dogs for as long as the family needs him to. "I've been asked to take care of them before, and now while all of this is happening to them they've asked me to take care of them again. I have a farm house that they love, plus a lot of their brothers, sisters, cousins, aunts and uncles live here.

"They're in great shape," he said of the well taken care of dogs.

"They're maybe a little bit over-weight, they are well fed and I know they get a lot of exercise with Jon."


Jon caused a furor earlier in the year with his statement about the treatment the dogs receive at the hands of the children, telling People.com they "climb on them, pull their tails," but Christopher said that kind interaction with the dogs is healthy. "The dogs LOVE the children," Christopher told RadarOnline.com. "The dogs weigh more than the kids and they love playing with the kids. If they didn't have that kind of interaction with the kids you would have a de-socialization situation, which wouldn't be good for the dog or the kids. The children are part of the pack."

If Jon and Kate do decide to leave the dogs with the breeder he will not put them up for adoption. "They would stay in my family and I wouldn't give them to anyone else," Christopher told RadarOnline.com. "They asked me to take care of them and I will."

Shoka and Nala are brother and sister, and as they grow up Jon is facing a tough decision - which dog should he fix? "This is on his mind," Christopher says. "This needs to be taken care of sooner rather than later," he said, explaining that Shoka the male has the beautiful German line in his coat and Nala has the darker American coat, so Jon would be able to breed either dog, but isn't sure which one he wants to neuter.

Having your parents go through a very public divorce and having your dad date other women is tough enough and then losing your beloved pets seems almost cruel, but Christopher told us that Jon "doesn't plan on breaking up the family, so nothing will be done that hurts the children."

Go Away Katezilla said...

The kids are gonna need some good therapy....like NOW.

How many times will they become attached to people to find out in a snap, they'll no longer see them again (Jodi/Kevin, Beth, Grandma Janet, all of Kate's relatives) and now the DOGS whom they grew to love and care for join the list.

No crooked houses, trips to Wyoming, Tea parties or Jonas concert tickets will make up for these lost relationships.

Does Kate think that material possessions will keep the kids happy?!? HA! Let's see when they're teenagers whining for the Lexus SUV or the Louis Vuitton purse & Jimmy Choo shoes.

On a side note, with the dogs gone, expect more paparazzi to sneak their way onto the property, maybe we can finally see pics the pool, although I dont give a damn.

carolann said...

The breeder gave an interview to Radar Online.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/09/exclusive-gosselin-dog-breeder-will-keep-dogs-indefinitely

If Jon and Kate don't take them back the dogs are going to stay with him and will not be adopted to another family. It sounds like even if Jon and Kate don't take them back the kids they will be able to visit the breeder and still see them. Things aren't as sad as Jon made them out to be yesterday.

This proves my original point. Jon should not have made a spectacle of the dogs leaving and he should not have used his kids and tabloids to garner sympathy for himself and say it's Kate's fault they are leaving. This was obviously a mutual well thought out decision. It was what was best for everyone, including the kids.

Jon was creating drama. As someone up thread said, he was probably trying to deflect the Santoro story. The kids did not need to be dramatically filmed in front of paparazzi saying goodbye to their dogs when Jon knew all along it wasn't that tragic. He used them to make Kate look bad and himself look like the victim. It's just wrong.

Just Julie said...

My thoughts on Dog-gate:

1. Are any of us really surprised? If I remember correctly, in the episode when they picked up the dogs, Kate was already threatening the children to return the dogs if they didn't take care of them. And I think it was mentioned another time in the same episode that they could return them to the breeder if it didn't work out.

I think we all knew it was just a matter of time. And I think Kate planned on it, all along.

2. I think the reason we never saw them bark at or investigate people like the Crooked House delivery folks is because they were crated or otherwise restrained A LOT. I think back to the blanket picnic when Kate hollered for Jon to come get the dog. She wanted them crated and away from her as much as possible.

3. I have a feeling Kate initiated this as a punishment to Jon as much as anything.

1momski said...

I have two larger dogs-one a Siberian Husky and one a black lab mix. The constant shedding, the cost(vet bills on one's surgery cancelled out a planned trip to Disney) the kennel cost when we do travel-boy does this add up However, these dogs are so loved and such a part of our family. I could not imagine my children growing up without them.
I found the news about the Gosselins dogs being sent away so heartbreaking. It is the rule in this family that if you are vulnerable and innocent, your needs will be bypassed for the convenience of the adults.
I would strongly suspect Kate set the whole dog in a pickup truck scene up, knowing the cameras would catch Jon doing her bidding and this would be blamed on him. How awful-first Dad is banished and now the dogs. It is the children here that do not stand a chance. Are they going to sign confidentiality so when they are older, they can't talk eithr.

Bev said...

I think it was just one of Kate's digs on Jon. Right now she's doing whatever stunt she can to piss him off. She probably kept the dogs crated on her days anyway so they will be happier in a loving home. This is anything but a loving home. Not being "able" to care for them is no excuse. Those kids are old enough to take care of their needs. The past few episodes I've seen a pattern of "entitlement" the kids are showing, like their mother, so it's good they are gone. What Kate is teaching the children is get rid of whatever you want, whenever you want, without consequence and be selfish. All we need is 8 more Kates running around in 10 years. That's more than I can take.

Vanessa said...

I agree that it would have been very simple to pay someone to take care of the dogs, but I really believe Khate just wanted them GONE. The kids would still want to play with them, so she'd have to put up with the dog hair, them jumping and running with the kids. She herself NEVER wanted the dogs, all for the network, umm I mean the kids. There still would be the odd poop that the dog keeper would miss and that would just drive her more bonkers than she already is. It's also another stab in her soon to be ex's back. Remember when the kids all said in chorus "Thank-you Mommy!" and her
preocious response was "YOU'RE NOT WELCOME" She's so sweet, she must be made of sugar; explains the "meltdowns"

yeaisaidthat said...

Finally a lawyer speaks for Jon, sounds like he's ready to go get em.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b144562_new_lawyer_comes_save_jon_gosselins_day.html

Explains why In Touch went to the mother for an interview and not directly the source, the babysitter signed a confidentially agreement. Clearly, $$$ was the incentive for the mother to speak out. Regardless , the 'baby sitter' is an adult woman and accountable for her own decisions and actions. Same can be said with respect to the unemployed Kate Major who is now pimping her story to any tabloid rag or gossip media willing to throw a few dolla dolla bills her way.

Snap! said...

So Kate got rid of the dogs- She is such a contradiction- Kate used to say that Christmas and Birthdays were so important to her and the kids- especially the tups since it was a celebration of how far they have come.
So now Kate has given away what she told the kids was their only Christmas presents-
Just like the tups 4th birthday when the boys were denied their cupcakes.
Great parenting.

TandLMommy28 said...

How cruel can you be??? Those kids have had everything that matters ripped away from them and now the dogs as well? Are you serious? They pay people to do everything else they don't want to do, such as spending quality time with the kids when the cameras aren't rolling... why couldn't they just hire someone to take care of the dogs. This is so cruel to the kids I want to scream.

E said...

I live near the Gosselins...I believe they were picked up by a service that takes your pet to be groomed. That's the word here anyway. I also have a feeling the photographers were staged to show this so everyone would flip out and the ratings would go up again.... That is personal opinion but, the other I've heard from a few people. It seems to be working that when they do something big good or bad it gets ratings. They know the dogs are a hot button so send them off to the groomers, call in the paps and viola, higher ratings.

Vanessa said...

To Dogs didn't perform well,
I see your point, but it's
hard to be a guard dog when your caged in your pen day and night.
Why would anyone expect them to get a dog trainer? You'd acutally have to work hand in hand with the trainer, do what is asked of you, be consistent. HA! They've kept the tups out of school, haven't read to them, haven't addressed their speech delays, haven't given them any socializing with others (other than the crew) There is NO consistency in their lives, they don't know who's coming/going, where THEY'RE going... ever since those kids were babies, she couldn't wait til they were asleep or it was time for their 4 hour nap, she doesn't want to be bothered with ANYTHING. The dogs would be any different?

kate, the devil incarnate said...

goawayJandK said...

If Jon really wanted to keep those dogs, he would have purchased a NYC man cave that allows pets. We have many friends in NYC who have large dogs .

Just when you think those poor kids can't be disappointed/hurt again by their greedy parents....

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please remember that the dogs belonged to the KIDS and not Jon. There would be no reason for him to take the dogs away from the PA estate. If he did take the dogs on his time away, Kate would say he is depriving the kids of their beloved dogs.
sometimes it is like adoption....jon loved those dogs so much, he knew that they would be better off in a better home. if that is the case, kudos to him. it is a hard decision.
and an earlier poster asked about the cats they had when they became engaged...bet they got rid of them as well.
kate was shown saying on one episode how she wanted a small lap dog. i knew getting the 2 large ones would be a disaster.
the dogs are better off without kate. nothing can be more cruel than to constantly crate. that is animal abuse IMO.

Acertaingirl said...

I'm almost positive that if Cara and Mady were at the house during the "dog relocation", there would have been a lot more tears all around. Real smart, dumping the pooches while the twins were at school.

Kate hated the pups from day one - those kids will never see them again, isn't the breeder like 4 hours away? Better to just cut all ties, forget the damage control and let the dogs live their lives happily.

Ms.Peach said...

The breeder's name is Jeff Christopher. There's no way those dogs will be returned to the Gosselins. Anyone who wants to adopt, I say go for it!

Jersey said...

ByeByePups said...
You would think she would want these dogs around. German Shepards when cared for and trained right would be excellent companions. As well as watch dogs.
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Who needs a couple of watch dogs/companions when you have a silver-haired body guard at your beck and call for the same purpose(s)?

Mommy in PA said...

On the one hand, I am happy that the dogs will be able to go to a family that will be abel to better take care of them rather than use them for props when a cute moment is needed for the show. On the other hand, I feel so bad for the kids - as if it is not hard enough to have their family ripped apart by divorce, now they are losing their pets too.

K8 aint GR8 said...

ANIMALS ARE NOT PROPERTY.

ANIMALS ARE NOT PROPS.

KATE IS HEARTLESS.

JON IS INFANTILE.

THOSE DOGS WERE A "CHRISTMAS" EPISODE FOR RATINGS AND NOTHING MORE.

ONCE THE PAPS CAUGHT THE DOGS BEING MISTREATED BECAUSE THE ADULTS DIDN'T CARE, KATE KNEW THE DOGS WOULD RUIN HER "NEW" IMAGE AND THEY HAD TO GO.

AT LEAST THE DOGS HAVE FOUND THEIR FOREVER HOME.

Go Away Gosselins! said...

This is a quote from the breeder on the Radar site:

"The dogs have always been Jon's but he can't have them in his New York City apartment"

This is Kate's fault how? (I know that is a loaded question but my point is Jon is just as responsible for the dogs being sent back)

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delilahboyd said...

Hm. I suspect a more sinister reason for returning the dogs. The "Tup With The Red Plastic Bat" incident would be the reason for a second Humane Society visit.

What happens if a 3rd complaint is lodged?

Perhaps J & K are being proactive in preventing animal abuse charges.

Whatever the reason... Congratulations on your escape from Konpound Hell, Sweet Dogs!

Heavy sigh for the children, though. They can't escape yet.

GoPoshGo said...

Not A Laughing Matter, but said...
Jon wanted them for security around the mansion. She'll have to sleep with both ears open now, unless she has hired Steve to wear a dog collar and roam around the acreage keeping watch for intruders.
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Maybe the kids will hit HIM with a bat....

Kate's the bitch said...

Way to go, Kate. You are making some fine memories for those kids. They will remember losing those dogs forever, as I remember losing every pet I ever had. And even though Jon did the dirty work, they do understand that this would not have happened if you had been good to those dogs. Most people fall so in love with their dogs within hours of adoption that crating them or giving them away is unthinkable. You are truly an odd bird and are a bad example to your kids. Oh, and you do look like a man in drag

Shoka's Snoot. said...

I've had it with these people.
I used to think they were fun in sort of a celebrities you love to hate sort of way. Yeah, they were exploiting the kids--but it wasn't like they were sex slaves in Thailand or anything like that. The kids were suffering, but they were suffering with free designer clothes and an in-ground pool. Yeah, they were amoral people, but in sort of a funny way--hitting little old ladies up for "love offerings" to take back to the McMansion, acting like a teenager at 32--they didn't do anything truly that bad. Even her tirades were over such stupid things, like coupons, it was sort of funny.

But I see no humor in this. Those poor kids. That was their only Christmas present, was it not? I agree, it's for the best for the dogs, we hope. At least they didn't bring them to a kill shelter.

I'm not sure if I'm going to continue following them anymore. Interestingly, I was so upset, I went to pet my own dog to reassure him and he bit me! (I think he was having a dream and I woke him up. But he apologized, so it's OK now.) German shepherds are not snippy biters like my poodle--they were a good species to have. Good luck to them in their new home.

BarbMae said...

After going home last night and hugging my adopted dog of 7 years and watching him run through the house like a goof ball I now see the light at the end of the TLC tunnel. Yep, these dogs were props, brought in to bring ratings up like the backyard camping and the picnics on the lawn. I don't think that the tups got too attached to them but my heart breaks for the twins, especially Mady. She didn't get her puppy to love just her. The dogs contract with TLC was up in October so the breeder just took them back early cause idiot wanted to play to the cameras. The breeder said on ROL that he is going to breed Shoka cause he is the long hair GS, not sure about Nala but he stated that neither would be sold and will live on his farm. Kate smiling as she leaves her hotel all the time knowing the dogs were being packed up. This couple gets more disgusting every day which should be impossible being the idiot morons they have been. I only wish the 8 could find a good home like the dogs. Dad's a baby, Mom will step on and mow down anyone who gets in her way to get her talk show and cookbook published. IMO Kate's cookbook will be published at the same time as this joint show w/Paula is supposedly being filmed. This has been in the works for months. These 2 and the people behind the scenes promoting them should take a hard look at how they ruined 8 children's lives. Beyond reprehensible. Sorry this is long but my disgust is boundless.

Tess H. said...

The breeder said that the dogs will now get to be with their brothers, sisters, cousins, aunts and uncles. If only the kids could be so lucky.

Maude said...

The youngest member of my family is our English Bulldog. A woman my husband works with was considering a bully for her family so my husband emailed her photos. When she showed them to her kids her son said, "if we gave them a million dollars do you think they'd let us have her?"

As cute as that comment was I realized then and there, without a doubt, there is nothing that could make us surrender our furry family member.

I am happy for the dogs, but so sorry for the kids.

Don't we as parents make sacrifices for our children's happiness and well-being?

These two can cry their fake sob story all they want. They have sacrificed nothing for these children. Ever. They have only used them as a means to an end.

Someone should kennel those two and let the dogs take care of the kids. They'd do a better job.

A Dog Lover said...

I have to agree with readerlady I think that Jon did her bidding becasue she did keep them crated when she was there and the dogs will be better off somewhere else. We all know that Kon's saying that the kids can visit them at the breeder's is all just PR. They'll never visit them. Also, Khate's saying that the kids didn't even miss them after 15 minutes and that one tup said he never liked them because the dogs chewed his toys says alot for the way you're raising those kids. Everything in their lives is disposable - they've come to expect it. Maybe that's why they don't cry when you leave Khate!

Pilgrim Soul said...

I feel bad for the kids if they do miss the dogs. I'm sure some of them sextuplets grew attached to them. However, these pups were mere props for the show. Clearly Kate hated them, despite her initial proprietary interest. Jon seemed to enjoy them at first, but wasn't able to juggle dogs and kids, or was too immature to do so. Now with the split, no one their just another burden.

Dunwoody Mom said...

Despite the fact that there is proof, via the television show, that these dogs were supposedly bought as a Christmas present for the kids, Kate's people are trying to spin it that the dogs were Jon's.

It's so laughable that Kate's people are spinning stories that can be easily countered by just watching the show.

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