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kate is a cocky bitch said...

Kathy Griffin as Kate
http://abc.go.com/watch/clip/jimmy-kimmel-live/SH005455790000/20957/234101

Tami said...

When Hate has the kids we see her every day at the bus stop. The comments are sickening: 'hardworking mom Kate even finds the time to kiss one of the kids, blah blah blah'. And on the same page it will say 'Jon is on a rampage yet again slamming the mother his kids'. Yet, when Jon has the kids there is no show of them being picked up at the bus stop. We KNOW she is manufacturing this attention on purpose. They want people to believe Jon does not spend just as much time with the kids and that all he does is party and date. They refuse to show what Hate does when not with the kids unless she is on some lame tour. If she is not just using the kids as a crutch and for fame, why does she insist on being photographed every day at the bus? That is the only time she spends with the kids apparently. WOuld she ever go to a park or take them out to lunch on their days off just for fun with no filming involved? No way!

foxy said...

The PR ping pong between Jon and Kate is getting old. As much as I like Jon speaking out and being genuine in the interview, Jon's interview wasn't a rating hit. It won't be a hit if it's Kate's interview, either. That's a good indication that Americans just don't care no more. The curiosity dies down.

The last newest episode (two weeks ago) had low ratings. Then you see fewer Jon and/or Kate pictures on the cover of tabloids when you are in the supermarket.

Gosselin franchise is dying. Thank God for that.

Vanessa said...

Ohio Buckeye,
I hope you will post something on the View's message board. You always seem to put into words my exact thoughts. You are very articulate and have great insight, I always enjoy your posts. Maybe they'll actually take into consideration all the backlash they've received if it's worded in an intelligent and mature manner. :)

Perfect People Don't Exist said...

Ohio Buckeye said...


It is possible to do everything 'right' and STILL have things not work out.

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Sorry, but nobody does "everything" right. There are no perfect people out there. Thinking that you did "everything" right is a problem in and of itself.

Ohio Buckeye said...

I'll be watching GWoP to learn how K8's Big Break (?!) on The View goes, so, looking f'ward to seeing your commentary.

I'm sure K8's being very well prepped for her performance, and, it seems that the women of The View, sadly, even Whoopi, are already 'in the bag' to help ensure K8 utilizing this appearance to improve her brand image.......

K8 ain't GR8 said...

I must truly live in BIZARRO world.

I live in a place with blatant child exploitation is welcomed with open arms by the media.

Kate Gosselin will one day receive the Nobel Prize for motherhood.

She's a sucky mom said...

Yeah, what the ****? Why is Kate being praised and adored for her mothering? If Jon had been photographed spanking one of the kids, what would have been the fallout? I am so frustrated about this. Where's the karma? I'm waiting.....

keeblerc said...

What did you all think of Kathy Griffin's take on Kate? I am up at the cottage and my dial up connection here won't allow me to see the video but plan to use the link posted here--and thank you for that, Kate is a cocky bitch! (Goodness, it even feels fun writing your "name!") :-)

OK, this may or may have not been addressed elsewhere on GwoP BUT what I want to know is when did the silver fox bodyguard first join the family because I saw the episode "Plane Trip to Utah," last night and I swear he was sitting right behind Khate on the plane!!! It looks exactly like him! Can anyone comment as to whether or not it is him?

BTW, and I mean this in all sincerity, WHY does Khate need a bodyguard? Do people really run after/up to her? Does she fear for her safety? Has she ever explained the purpose for having him? I cannot imagine people coming after her and mobbing her like they might an Angelina Jolie or George Clooney, for instance, can you??!

this is insane... said...

the karma... i agree... she cant run from it forever.

i will remeber though:

giving your kids no privacy + verbal abuse of their dad + wooden spoon + no emotional connections + public divorce + selling their lives to pay the bills + hiring more nanies than a typical preschool employs + not allowing any family contact + being an abrasive narcissist = GOOD MOM.

keeblerc said...

Please someone assure me Khate isn't doing "The View" as some sort of "audition" for a regular role on that or another talk show!!? Regis is getting on in years, can you imagine "Kelly--and Khate?" I am still dumbfounded Khate is going to be on "The View" for a week!!! I haven't seen it for awhile but love reading the posts here as that keeps me in the loop. What is Barbara Walter's take on Khate? Has she weighed in?

MBach said...

It does seem a mystery why Kate/hate seems to just shrug off negative comments from any media source, and continue on her power trip to Fame City. How can so many people line up to see her, to hear her ideas, to fall in line like those little lambs following each other as they fall over a cliff?

I think it just comes down to follow the money. All the personalities that fawn over her seem to have financial connections through the networks they serve or the ratings they seek. Money money money!

She buys her friends and companions. She pushes away people that could truely love her children, and maybe (maybe?) even her. She turns her back on the people that helped her, raised her, married and lived with her for over 10 years, and even the children she bore. All to get more fame and fortune.

It is really hard for me as a normal (whatever your idea of normal is) person to understand how she could think her choices are good ones. The path she takes seems so twisted and wrong! It takes all kinds to make the world, I just hope her kind never become the norm.

stopthemadness said...

finds the time to kiss one of the kids? lol how does she ever manage. I'm sure when cameras are there she will find a way.

The media are in this for money. Jon beinga decent parent is not going to fuel the feeding frenzy. They have to have this team jon team Kate BS to do that. That became obvious when the viewers increased by like 300% over the break up show. For them to act like two adults nad actually NOT discuss their private dirt - who's gonna click on that?

Kate, in not talking about anything to do with Jon will harpoon her own popularity. Let's hope Jon is done talking too. He said his piece. Until he does something to protect his little cash cows from the show I'm done listening to him as well as her.

Ohio Buckeye said...

PerfectPeople said...
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You misunderstood my post. I realize no one is perfect. My point was not about being perfect at all.

I agree with you that whenever a person thinks they are NEVER in error, it's usually symptomatic that the person has some kind of issue.

My point was simply that there ARE situations were a person does everything humanly possible to do the right and wise things and, yet,sometimes this does not fully protect them from a bad thing happening in their life.

Sometimes people make choices that make them vulnerable to bad consequences. We've all made mistakes and then most of us have to suffer the consequences of these poor decisions we've made. We live, we learn, we, hopefully, do better next time around the track.

But other times even though a person has taken all available precautions and made the best possible choices available, a life difficulty can STILL visit their life.

Not all life difficulties are evidence of that person's failure. It's unwise to just assume that every bad thing that happens is that person's fault - way too judgemental to me, but this is JMO.

Bad things sometimes just happen. Even to people who don't deserve it and did nothing to 'bring that bad situation on themselves'.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Vanessa said....
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Wow, THANK YOU, your kind comments just made my day!

The only reason I haven't posted on The View's website is that, since that program is solidly built upon drama and controversy (blech!), I don't want to count my comment as 'interest' in their show. This is the only blog I participate it and it's because I find J&K so upsetting - that women actually ADMIRE a character like K8 just baffles and saddens me.

Thanks for your kindness - it means alot to me.

Ms.Peach said...

keeblerc said...
OK, this may or may have not been addressed elsewhere on GwoP BUT what I want to know is when did the silver fox bodyguard first join the family because I saw the episode "Plane Trip to Utah," last night and I swear he was sitting right behind Khate on the plane!!! It looks exactly like him! Can anyone comment as to whether or not it is him?
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Yep, that's him. Been with her for years. One thing about that plane trip----I am betting that TLC chartered that plane (big, big bucks).

abbra said...

Can anyone verify if that is Gina Neild in the photos with the SF and Kate?

Ohio Buckeye said...

MsPeach said......
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Was that the plane ride where "Can Do K8" burst into tears because the flight was delayed or diverted or something?

"Can Do K8" - what a PR ploy. First they show us how many seasons of a needy and demanding woman who can't seem to make it thru a few hours without the assistance of her husband and/or a whole host of others, but magically THIS season she has supposedly transformed to a "Can Do" (s)hero?

Give me a break. Not buying it, TLC/K8. Please just GO AWAY FOREVER. Women in the real world are not buying what you're selling.

fidosmommy said...

abbra said...
Can anyone verify if that is Gina Neild in the photos with the SF and Kate?

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I don't know what you mean by SF, but if you're referring to the pictures of Kate, Steve and another woman all dressed in black then yes, it is Gina Neild.
Kate's "good friend"...... uh huh.
I have to ask why Gina is suddenly so interested in being in places where she is sure to be photographed. Last I heard, Gina
was not interested in getting herself into any limelight.

BTW, has there been any new update of the "you're going to be very, very surprised" teaser on this blog about who Kate's actual "main attraction" is... we were told by someone months ago that it's not anyone we would even think possible..... Just wondering.

Madgesty said...

This whole Kate's-ever-increasing-support-from-the-Sheeple/TLC/Oprah, etc. reminds me of a made-for-tv movie I saw as a child (can't remember the name). In short, a long-lost teenaged cousin shows up at a family's house because she's been recently orphaned. Shortly after her arrival, horrible things start happening to the family and their friends. The daughter in the family is the only one who suspects the "cousin"(who is actually a witch who killed the original orphaned cousin). The daughter is the ONLY one who isn't "drinking the hi-C" -- everyone else is brainwashed into LOVING the "cousin," even as she systematically destroys their lives.

I see the GWOPers as the daughter in this story -- completely frustrated that nobody else will recognize the evil in the resident witch. The rest of the world seems to have no immunity to Kate's evil powers.

I just have to shake my head in disbelief.

dee said...

I am a follower of this site but rarely participate. I grew up in a house with an explosive mother with a wooden spoon. I am neither a Jon or Kate fan...but can empathize with Jon and the kids.

I wish "The View" had picked a more inspirational female like Christine Applegate, 9/11 survivors, etc. I think LaToya was a good selection.

I watched reruns and stopped completely after the constipation in the parking lot episode. I was horrified for the child and could not believe a network would air something like that. The potty training with pictures was similar.

How could you do that to your children? It will be terrible for them when their friends are internet capable.

Could be??? said...

fidosmommy said:

BTW, has there been any new update of the "you're going to be very, very surprised" teaser on this blog about who Kate's actual "main attraction" is... we were told by someone months ago that it's not anyone we would even think possible..... Just wondering.

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Maybe Kate is really a lesbian and she is having the relationship with Gina, lol.

But all jokes aside, with Kate's blatant disregard and disrespect for men, I could totally see her being into women.

Jake said...

keeblerc said...
Please someone assure me Khate isn't doing "The View" as some sort of "audition" for a regular role on that or another talk show!!?


I am all for Kate getting a regular role on a talk show if it gets the kids off tv. People can choose to watch the show or not as they wish and the kids can have their privacy back.

fidosmommy said...

Jake said...
keeblerc said...
Please someone assure me Khate isn't doing "The View" as some sort of "audition" for a regular role on that or another talk show!!?

I am all for Kate getting a regular role on a talk show if it gets the kids off tv. People can choose to watch the show or not as they wish and the kids can have their privacy back.

*****

Well, if she does, that's another show I can refuse to watch.

fidosmommy said...

But all jokes aside, with Kate's blatant disregard and disrespect for men, I could totally see her being into women.

*****

So you're saying that Kate has respect and regard for women? I have witnessed very little repect for either gender.

I don't want to speculate on Kate's orientation, and frankly, it won't improve or diminish my opinion of her either way. She is what she is.

texas two step said...

Madgesty said.....
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I'm right with you... no Kool aid for me, but I am also confounded as to how people can buy into the kHate hype.
I too was a sheeple until about 2 years ago I just had to throw in the towel at the constant negative remarks, smacks and general nasty mouth that woman had against Jon (plus her general obnoxious demeanor). My mother, God bless, saw the real Kate from about the beginning and always commented about how she continually played to the camera and treated Jon poorly. My mother was an abused woman during her 20 yr marriage, she would always say if she had spoken to my father that way, she would have gotten a beating and that Jon really WAS very helpful with the children and around the house. I just don't understand why people can't see her for the shrew that she is.... I still stand firm that soon the "real kHate" will show herself and people will wake up.

emptynester said...

keeblerc said...
Please someone assure me Khate isn't doing "The View" as some sort of "audition" for a regular role on that or another talk show!!?
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I am totally against Kate being rewarded with any type of career in the public eye. Her only claim to fame is birthing and exploiting 8 little children. Why should she be rewarded for that?!

keeblerc said...

Thank you, Ms. Peach! The episode was on and I saw him and thought "OMG, it that the bodyguard behind Khate?!" I had no idea he'd been around that long. And, yes, it's the episode where Khate has a total meltdown, wailing "there's no place for us to go!"

I wondered if the plane was chartered as at one point Khate said there were "19 people on the plane and 14 of them are us." A morning flight from Pittsburgh or wherever to Utah being almost empty? In ski season? Seemed odd. She also said something along the lines of "I really don't think they were prepared for us" re: their luggage and I thought "why would a commercial airliner have to be 'prepared' for you?!" The way she said it and the context made it sound like the "hair pain" had been arranged just for them. Hmmm, how does 19 people chartering a large commercial jet for their use equate with Khate's passion for being green? Just saying....:-)

I still don't understand why Khate needs a bodyguard. I've heard stories from friends/co-workers who've seen celebrities like Harrison Ford, Robert Redford, Paul Newman and Michelle Pfeiffer walking around Chicago WITHOUT bodyguards and they were fine. Has Khate ever explained WHY she feels a bodyguard is needed?

Jake, I appreciate your perspective and agree. Anything that gets the children off the air is a good thing!!! And, you're right; if Khate is on a talk show, we can all choose to view or not view. I hadn't been thinking of it in that way--so here's hoping she gets a show, J&K+8 ends--and then no one tunes in to see Khate and she sees just how "popular" she truly is! :-)

kate has no friends said...

Keeblerc:

Plz tell me that khate is not going to be on The View for a week. I thought it was 2 days which are 2 days too many. I refuse to click on The View site,ROL,JJ etc anymore so may be out of the loop.

fidosmommy said...

emptynester said...
keeblerc said...
Please someone assure me Khate isn't doing "The View" as some sort of "audition" for a regular role on that or another talk show!!?
_____________________
I am totally against Kate being rewarded with any type of career in the public eye. Her only claim to fame is birthing and exploiting 8 little children. Why should she be rewarded for that?!


*****

What could she possibly offer? A job like this would require some kind of interviewing skills and the ability to discuss something other than one's self. Just being controversial is not enough to launch a career on any kind of
talk show or how-to show. That job would need a person who can make the audience laugh, think, feel comfortable, learn something and feel a connection with the host. It would require a host who could make each guest feel like the most important person on the planet for the 10 minutes he/she is on the stage. Are we talking Kate Gosselin here?

fidosmommy said...

Madgesty said.....
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I'm right with you... no Kool aid for me, but I am also confounded as to how people can buy into the kHate hype.
I too was a sheeple until about 2 years ago I just had to throw in the towel at the constant negative remarks, smacks and general nasty mouth that woman had against Jon (plus her general obnoxious demeanor).

*****

Amen. I was really turned off at her grabbing Jon's face during one
couch session and "helping" him form words with his mouth. "Say it! Say it, Jon!" as she squeezed his face..... I'm afraid I would have had to get up off the couch and walk away at that point.

Laurie said...

Why does Khate need a bodyguard you ask? Well don't you know that she's the "frist lady of reality TV" and the First Lady (as in President's wife) always gets a bodyguard so Khate should also get one...(she said throwing up a little in her mouth).

livnluv said...

keeblerc said...
Thank you, Ms. Peach! The episode was on and I saw him and thought "OMG, it that the bodyguard behind Khate?!" I had no idea he'd been around that long. And, yes, it's the episode where Khate has a total meltdown, wailing "there's no place for us to go!" ... (edited for length)
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I always thought this "meltdown" was indicative of kate's true colors. She was nearly traumatized by the plane delays over which she had no control, and control is a very big thing for her. Here she had 8 children needing to be consoled and reassured that everything would be okay. Instead she's off by herself throwing a tantrum of her own. You might feel that way, but you sure don't let you kids see it. I found it to be quite a childish reaction to the situation.

NancyN said...

Personally I hope Kate gets a TV gig and makes great money to support her kids so that they are no longer on. Hopefully Jon spends a lot of time with them and they all live happily ever after. I am quite bored with the whole thing and think I am going expend my energy in better ways going forward. I wish nothing bad on either of these people - they brought plenty on themselves with their selfish behavior.

shell said...

OK, this may or may have not been addressed elsewhere on GwoP BUT what I want to know is when did the silver fox bodyguard first join the family because I saw the episode "Plane Trip to Utah," last night and I swear he was sitting right behind Khate on the plane!!! It looks exactly like him! Can anyone comment as to whether or not it is him?
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yep it was him he has been around since at least jan 2008. If you goggle his name and read his profile he is way way over qualified to be guarding Kate.

shell said...

Please someone assure me Khate isn't doing "The View" as some sort of "audition" for a regular role on that or another talk show!!?
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kate will be treated with respect because she is a guest but If she was a regular they would eat her alive. she has no intelligent opinions and can you imagine whoopi if she was a regular.

goawayfools said...

Regarding Kate, I think Mady said it best, "You're really, really mean". Indeed she is, sweet Mady.

"Real cooks don't need cookbooks..." said...

I posted the following on the message boards at the view opposing Khate's appearance. The post was deleted within hours along with alot of other negative posts. Funny......"I must ask the same question that many others have asked. HAS ANYONE AT THE VIEW EVER SEEN KHATE IN ACTION???!!!! She is no one to look up to or admire. What has she done that is so special? Have too many babies and needing to go on welfare? Exploiting their kids? Selling their children's lives for their own greed? Shoving them off their entire lives to paid help, with a high turnover rate? Nice emotional bonding those kids have. Khate belittled Jon their entire marriage. She scolded him, yelled at him, disrespected him (in front of the kids) and was / is just an awful and mean person. The truth of the matter is she is famous for being such an awful person. She cares about nobody but herself and her new found 'celebrity' and most of all MONEY! The other day she stated she is lonely!!! With eight blessings at her feet? Just another example that she'll never have enough or be happy. Jon, well that's a little more complex. He WAS and IS a caring and attentive dad. (Unlike Khate). He tried to be a good husband and say, "yes dear" as much as possible. But she just chipped away at him day and night, night and day. He broke. If I would speak to my husband the way she spoke to him throughout their marriage, I can assure you he would ask me what drugs I'm on. You don't treat people you love badly. She is even quite dismissive of her children and gets annoyed when they ask her questions. Probably because she is so stupid that she doesn't know the answers. Back to Jon. I don't blame him for doing a 180. Temporary madness from living with madness for so long. He's just trying to regain his ego. He'll come around and his children will know that he was and is the true loving parent. Give it 10 -15 years. The truth will come out and Khate will be seen as the Mommy Dearest she really is. SO, why are you allowing the useless and talent less person on your show? It's beyond me. I won't watch anything that she is a part of. She makes me ill."

XYZed said...

Sure, the women of The View are siding with Kate now. However, after spending a week with her in all her unedited diva-like glory I wouldn't be surprised if they change their opinion pretty quickly in keeeping with the saying about fish and guests after three days

"Real cooks don't need cookbooks..." said...

Leave comment on the View message boards and watch how fast they disappear!!

Ohio Buckeye said...

LivnLuv said....
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Well said! That was a defining epi for me regarding who/what Katie Irene is all about. I agree - when you're a parent, it's all about comforting your kids, NOT making a spectacle of yourself just because the plane ride didn't go exactly according to plan.

Now for TLC and K8 to be pitching the new! improved! K8 v2 as a 'can do it all and on my own' female hero is just insulting. Ugh.

Sandy said...

I am not for Kate getting a regular Tv gig. Some of you hope that happens so the kids won't be used anymore. That's a naive and wishful thinking. As long as Kate is on TV, she will always use her children, mention her children, have photo op with her children, sell her children's stories and photos, and so on. She will not stop exploiting them.

In her avocado brain, she thinks as long as the children are fed her job is done and you can't call her a bad mother. She doesn't see anything wrong with using her children.

People keep giving these two lame fish parents things to help the children. It's not working. The money won't go to the kids but parents' lavish lifestyle. The money is not used for the real needs like spending on resources to help their speech delay and coping with parents' divorce. Giving Kate free pass only will create 8 more self entitled Kates in the future.

timeout said...

Why does Kate so desperately NEED AND LOVE a fan base to prove herself worthy as a mother and self validation? Speaking for myself, I never have or had to look farther than the eyes of my own two children as my 'reward'.

8 more Kates? said...

Sandy, I too worry that Kate's influence on those kids may have unfortunate results. You never know, not every person with an unfortunate parent turns out badly, but I worry that those children have never lived a normal life and will grow to know no better. Will they learn to mistreat people and expect to get their way anyway? Will they turn on their own family and sell them out? Will they equate money with happiness and success? Will they be completely insensitive to those around them? Will they lie and be hypocritical? You know the bible passage about the corrupt tree and its corrupt fruit... one shudders to think.

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

Kate wants a bodyguard because she realizes how crazy her fans are. The strange thing about Steve is that he doesn't look happy being Kate's bodyguard.

Alice Blue Gown said...

keeblerc said...
Please someone assure me Khate isn't doing "The View" as some sort of "audition" for a regular role on that or another talk show!!?

I am all for Kate getting a regular role on a talk show if it gets the kids off tv. People can choose to watch the show or not as they wish and the kids can have their privacy back.

*****

Well, if she does, that's another show I can refuse to watch.

9/12/2009 3:46 PM
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There was some talk a while back about Kate producing a show about multiples. I wish she would do that. Then we could watch or not.

But, I'm here to tell ya, I hope it fails, whatever it is. She is such a cocky snot, I really hope she doesn't make another penny from televising her Royal Hiney any way she tries.

Carrin said...

Empty Nester said...
I am totally against Kate being rewarded with any type of career in the public eye. Her only claim to fame is birthing and exploiting 8 little children. Why should she be rewarded for that?!

9/12/2009 3:56 PM
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Agreed! She should not be!

Van J. said...

Gina Nield has agreed to be photographed a few times just to quell the rumors linking Kate with Steve Nield. She and Steve agreed that this would be a good step to take for the integrity the Nield family.

fidosmommy said...

Van J. said...
Gina Nield has agreed to be photographed a few times just to quell the rumors linking Kate with Steve Nield. She and Steve agreed that this would be a good step to take for the integrity the Nield family.

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or TLC told them that this would be a good step to take for its own good. They are in control of
everything Kate does, it would seem.

texas two step said...

Van J. said...
Gina Nield has agreed to be photographed a few times just to quell the rumors linking Kate with Steve Nield. She and Steve agreed that this would be a good step to take for the integrity the Nield family.

9/12/2009 7:49 PM

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Van J- what's your source on the above statement??

Donna Day said...

Please help me w. these answers fellow GWoPERs:

1. if kate gets to go to the spa and tans constantly, why can't jon (on occassion) take a break and see his friends too?

2. if kate can go on larry king and bash jon subtly, why can't jon go on this interview and speak bluntly?

3. if kate enjoys her bodyguard's company and wants to hang out w. hm, why can't jon spend time w. his "friend" hailey?

4. if kate can do numerous magazine interviews, why does jon get condemned for doing white fenced interviews?

5. if kate overdresses (wearing hoochie outfits to run errands) w. those crazy shoes, why can't jon go around and wear his "ed hardy" gear?

6. If kate can dress like a cowgirl with the boys, then does Jon still get criticized for dressing like a girl w. his daughters?

7. if kate wants a career out of this and wants to be "supermom" and have her own TV show, why couldn't jon start his own fashion line for kids clothes w. Ed Hardy?

8. If kate buys a big SUV, why can't jon buy his sports car? They still have that big van they kids can ride in if these recent car purchases are "for their kids".

9. if kate can being steve and gina as "friends" to accompany her on her trips, why can't jon bring his mom and hailey to his trips?

They're both doing the same things but one is in a more "angelic" light bc this person is media safe and all about image and the other is portrayed as the "demon" b/c this other person could care less about the media and wants to live a "normal" life?

it goes both ways. I know my friend and her husband take turns "unwinding" b/c raising kids can be stressful.

MOST IMPORTANTLY: WHY IS THERE A BODYGUARD? People who live in PENN don't care for them. I doubt there are people who would jump on kate and scream for her and the kids. Celebrities don't even have bodyguards unless it's a public event for work.

Dunwoody Mom said...

She and Steve agreed that this would be a good step to take for the integrity the Nield family

B.S. If Steve Nield had any integrity, he would not have a personal, public relationship with his employer.

stupidisasstupiddoes said...

Van J. said...
Gina Nield has agreed to be photographed a few times just to quell the rumors linking Kate with Steve Nield. She and Steve agreed that this would be a good step to take for the integrity the Nield family.

9/12/2009 7:49 PM

Why should GINA NEILD be placed with the burden of HAVING to be photographed publicly with her husband in an attempt to preserve her family's integrity and quell TABLOID rumors? Gina Neild hasnt been alleged or accused of anything. Considering the fact that STEVE NEILD is the one being accused, shouldnt STEVE NEILD, as a husband and father be the one held accountable for preserving the integrity of HIS FAMILY! I am not sure how paparrazi photographs of GINA with Steve and KATE quells rumors of Steve and Kate's alleged affair? I am also confused as to why SUPPOSED PAPARAZZI PHOTOGRAPHS of a Gina, Steve and Kate THREESOME would be a 'good step for the integrity of the Neild family'? How does Kate contribute to the Neild family integrity? If the responsibilities and obligations of Steve Neild's 'job' as Kate's body gaurd is such that it crosses the line of professionalism and infringes upon or puts at risk the INTEGRITY of HIS FAMILY, what is the ACT of GINA being photographed going to prove or disprove? Absolutely NADDA!

Midnight Serenade said...

"MOST IMPORTANTLY: WHY IS THERE A BODYGUARD? People who live in PENN don't care for them. I doubt there are people who would jump on kate and scream for her and the kids. Celebrities don't even have bodyguards unless it's a public event for work."

She allegedly has had death threats.

Midnight Serenade said...

"Gina Nield has agreed to be photographed a few times just to quell the rumors linking Kate with Steve Nield. She and Steve agreed that this would be a good step to take for the integrity the Nield family."

Where did you read this? Is Gina quoted as saying this?

PaMa said...

Donna Day said...
Please help me w. these answers fellow GWoPERs:

1. if kate gets to go to the spa and tans constantly, why can't jon (on occassion) take a break and see his friends too?

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Certainly not defending Kate, but I think I remember that Jon used to go to the gym every day for an hour or so, kind of balancing out Kate's spa excursions.

fidosmommy said...

Certainly not defending Kate, but I think I remember that Jon used to go to the gym every day for an hour or so, kind of balancing out Kate's spa excursions.

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Kate basically humiliated Jon on camera about his physique, and then Jon "decided" to take himself to the gym. I have to wonder if Jon humiliated Kate into getting herself to a beauty spa. I would have to say I highly doubt it. He took her shopping, though, and tried to help her feel better about herself with some new styles of clothing, most of which she rejected.

itcouldhappen said...

"MOST IMPORTANTLY: WHY IS THERE A BODYGUARD? She allegedly has had death threats.

This is complete nonsense. In no way does Steve ever act like a security person guarding someone who has gotten threats. Why does he carry her purse and bags on the crowded streets of NY? Why is she always out in front of him? The only real threat out there is to Kate's ego if her fans stop thinking she's important enough to warrant security.

keeblerc said...

Khate is going to be on "The View" for an entire week??! I can just see her telling her co-hosts "we're going to get through this and make memories" or whatever her pat phrase was in the days when J&K+8 were still in the field trips with multiple meltdowns (most of them being Kate's) phase.

This actually may work to Jon's advantage as a week of working with Khate live and in person may, in fact, change the ladies' View of her. Particularly if she treats them the way she treated her last co-host. I'd like to see her try to tell Whoopi "Could you please not breathe so loudly??!"

Will she take the kids out of school for a day or the entire week so they can be in the audience "cheering Mommy on?" She was able to justify taking them out for a week just before the last school term ended so she can certainly justify taking them out of school right after the new term begins, right? And they are her current "castmates" after all. She shouldn't have to shoulder the work of promoting the show all by her lonesome!

Without Jon around to advise her, what will Khate wear? Perhaps he could loan her the charming frock he used to play dress up in one of the more recent episodes....

Seriously, I predict Khate's performance will be painful to watch at times because she's a deeply insecure person and I think she'll have a very difficult time interacting with the other ladies. They'll be gracious, of course but Khate's never seemed all that comfortable around other adults; her jealousy of Beth was palpable and that was her great friend.. She also acts somewhat withdrawn and quiet around people she can't control--often putting her head down and avoiding eye contact. I just can't see her making witty small talk and she won't get to play Alpha Dog in this pack so I'm not expecting her to even be all that opinionated or hold her own in a discussion. Just my prediction; would love to hear other thoughts!! Khate on "The View": Sweet Success or Total Mess?

keeblerc said...

Khate once asked Dr. Glassman, Hailey's dad, for breast augmentation after he offered to give her a free tummy tuck (first warning light that if you give Khate an inch she'll ask for a mile?). Loved it when he told her "no, why don't you go out and buy a support bra?"

Do you think they eventually worked out a trade: She'd get new breasts and he and his family would get protective custody of Jon?

I'm sorry; I think Jon has a right to be happy and liberated from Khate's abuse but this is a weird situation. Just a few short years ago, the Glassman family--Dr. and Mrs. and their high-school aged daughter, Hailey--were allowing Khate to recover from her tummy tuck in their home. Mrs. Glassman "just loved" Khate and even treated her to a mani-pedi and a makeover after the surgery. They parted as "friends" and planned to stay in touch and now Jon's with Hailey? It just seems odd and I wonder how the Glassman's feel about it. After all, should--and I know it's all rumor for now--Hailey Glassman become Hailey Glassman Gosselin, they'd be linked--through Jon and the kids--to Khate for life! Bet someone's regretting the day she saw the "jowls of the dog" and was so moved she called Khate to offer her husband's services!!

GG said...

I think I remember that Jon used to go to the gym every day for an hour or so, kind of balancing out Kate's spa excursions.
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I don't think gym equals spa though. If you are overweight, going to gym is kind of necessary. If you don't maintain healthy weight, you will have a lot of healthy problems later as any family doctor would tell you. Spa has nothing to do with health. You just sit there and let people pamper you.

Working out in the gym is hard work. Going to spa is indulgence. If going to gym is as enjoyable as going to spa, there wouldn't be so many overweight people.

grannyoftwo said...

"MOST IMPORTANTLY: WHY IS THERE A BODYGUARD? People who live in PENN don't care for them. I doubt there are people who would jump on kate and scream for her and the kids. Celebrities don't even have bodyguards unless it's a public event for work."

She allegedly has had death threats.



I am telling you people this is all a bunch of crap...she has the BG to keep her from getting into trouble. She is volatile and TLC knows it. She is hot lava ready to explode at any given moment. He is there to keep the public safe from karate Kate. Just in case the meds wear off in the middle of a "job" or "business" venture they are on.

grannyoftwo said...

Why should GINA NEILD be placed with the burden of HAVING to be photographed publicly with her husband in an attempt to preserve her family's integrity and quell TABLOID rumors?


Imagine this if you will....your husband walks in one day and says...honey...we need to talk...if "we " don't do something to make ourselves look like nothing is going on between me and Kate I am afraid the money wagon is going to dry up on us. So you have a choice. I can go back to the less paying harder jobs where I am never home and in danger more often, or you can help the family out and we can go have a few pics taken with Kate to make appearances look better for our little loving family. Or I could just divorce you, which will it be? Not saying he said that last part, but who knows what really went down in that house about Kate. I do know that alot of you including me have had friends and family that have had loved ones who have been in triangle situations just like this one where the wife was a "friend" until the bitter end. Or so she thought she was. Keep your enemies close Kate. And Kate is a very good liar we all know that. Heck, she even believes her own lies now.

It's my choice said...

I wish Sarah Ashlyn would commented on here and had a blog up about cooking for Kate would speak up once and for all and put all the rumors to bed. She seemed to be telling the truth but she stated she quit her blog because she was receiving a ton of hate mail from Kate fans. It is just very odd that nobody will tell the complete truth about what really went on inside. She stated that Kate was having an affair with somebody (dont' think it was Steve) and everyone that watches the show would be shocked at who it was.

I don't watch the show and I don't watch anything to do with Kate. That is my choice. People that love her can watch her to their heart content. That is their choice.

lifeoriley said...

Re: Donna Day
I have had the same questions--I totally agree that there is a media bias and double standard regarding Kate and Jon. If Kate stays home, she's a "saint"; if Kate goes out to make public appearances, she's "providing for her family in other ways"-- Jon, while I don't agree with many of his choices, can't seem to catch a break either way.
Also, in regard to Steve Nield-- she really doesn't need a bodyguard all the time. She is driven to the airport (they DO have secuirity there, lol), then, she's on the airplane, and then at the hotel or the venue--all places that have their own security. The hotel and the appearance venue may hire extra security when there is a "celebrity" appearance.
Also, why THE SAME bodyguard SO OFTEN? Because she feels comfortable with him or gets along with him? The job of a security guard is to protect you--not to be your "friend" and "personal assistant" --you can hire someone else ( a female?) to be that.
BTW, my family recently saw "Dog" the bounty hunter in an airport--he did not have any extra security (not that he would need it, lol) and he was very nice about taking a pic with my daughter and other people before boarding the plane.

LOL in Canada said...

Bodyguard... Let me get this straight - in order to preserve the integrity of the bodyguard's family, it was decided to parade his wife out to be photographed, the photographs shopped out to the gossip rags, all with his so-called "client" in tow? And this is meant to offset the rumors of an affair between the bodyguard and the client? How much more bizarre can this story get? First of all, if this bodyguard/client relationship is indeed just a business arrangement, these actions seem highly unprofessional to me. Wouldn't it be better for the "client" if the general public had LESS rather than MORE information about the bodyguard? And of course, the question remains...why on earth does this diva require guarding? Death threats? Frankly, I'm not surprised...there are a lot of crazy people out there and Kate has made herself a target by being such an infamous b*tch. So, it would seem that this is very serious indeed...death threats? Then why on earth would she continue to put herself out on her front yard within range of crazy people? Not to mention her children? If a long-range camera lens can find her so easily...well, enough said. I would certainly take death threats seriously myself. Sorry...don't understand this at all. Finally, to whomever it was who posted the fact that huge celebrities don't seem to have a need for bodyguards in order to go about their daily business - it again raises the question about why this nobody requires such an entourage. Especially when most of the pictures I've seen of Kate and her bodyguard together generally involve him carrying her PURSE (LOL) or lugging her shopping bags. Hilarious. Poor man...she's made a joke out of him too - just as she did her husand. If I were Steve's wife, I would be so embarrassed and humiliated on his behalf - carrying Madam's PURSE indeed! Some bodyguard. LOL, LOL.

nancy said...

There's an article on E!Online about why she might need a bodyguard - it kind of implies that she received death threats, but if you read it carefully it's just surmising. I guess that's how rumors get started.

http://ca.eonline.com/uberblog/ask_the_answer_bitch/b124311_why_does_kate_gosselin_even_need.html

my9cats said...

Morning All,
A couple of short comments as I didn't want to cut and paste posts.

Utah trip: When I viewed the epi last year I felt that Kate's alleged meltdown was an act. A way to keep the camera focused on her. Nothing has altered my POV.

Death threats: What chutzpa for an ordinary boring woman with no claims to anything other than having an "amazing uterus" to make. ITB the alleged death threats were either in her mind and encouraged by TLC for drama's sake, or, a cover for TLC, recognizing Kate is a loose cannon and needs a minder.

What bodyguard walks BEHIND the person being guarded? What BG keeps his hands tied up carrying packages for the same? What BG wears flipflops instead of shoes? How would he be able to chase the 'bad guy'?

End of rant. Now to do my impression of Can Do Kate and do my laundry. By myself!

marypoppins said...

shell said...
OK, this may or may have not been addressed elsewhere on GwoP BUT what I want to know is when did the silver fox bodyguard first join the family because I saw the episode "Plane Trip to Utah," last night and I swear he was sitting right behind Khate on the plane!!! It looks exactly like him! Can anyone comment as to whether or not it is him?
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yep it was him he has been around since at least jan 2008. If you goggle his name and read his profile he is way way over qualified to be guarding Kate.
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During this flight Cara who was sitting in the aisle across him walks over to Kate to complain about Maddy.

You can see the body guard hold her arm to stop her.
Cara pulls away from him and speaks to Kate anyway.

Huh?

somethingsmells said...

It was reported that Gina and Kate 'were friends in the past'. My question is, at what point, point did the Kate, Steve, AND Gina NECESSARY and 'cant live without' relationship develop? If Kate and Gina were friends PRIOR TO the hiring of Steve (as the body gaurd) and J & K's divorce, why is it that Gina's presence ONLY RECENTLY has become to serve such a critical purpose in Kate's life?

PaMa said...

Working out in the gym is hard work. Going to spa is indulgence. If going to gym is as enjoyable as going to spa, there wouldn't be so many overweight people.

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I understand what you're saying, but, for many, a trip to the gym provides the same sense of indulgence as a trip to the spa does for Kate.

That being said, I have no idea what Jon's reasons or motivations were for going to the gym.

sayitisntso33 said...

I am still not sure what is to be admired or considered a great mom by the sheeples who have a high regard for someone who decided to have sextuplets on welfare, advertised and actively sought out endorsers to support her children before they were born, took church offerings(cash) from people, and still does while they are making mega bucks, while refusing non-matching cribs, and items offered that were not up to her standards.

Never mind that she continues to accept church offerings after their family was clearly in a very positive cash flow, with earning from the show, but hid this from the public. And who goes on book tours, for a book she did not write, charging $20 cash for a authographed photos, choosing not to be home with her kids. And further does speaking engagements, which go beyond her "supporting her children," as she is clearly making a mint on the show, and book, and chruch offerings.

I can not for the life of me understand, how her fans view her choice to be away from her kids to earn excess money, beyond their needs, as a good example of a mother. Or her choice to be on the road, beyond their needs, as okay, when she is putting herself out there as a "normal mom." Her needs are being met by hiring nannys, cooks, housecleaners, etc.. to take over CARING FOR HER CHILDREN, her choice, as obviously, the show alone, clearly pays enough to meet their immediate needs.

Never mind this "model mom's" choice to do these things, and the way she treated her husband, and denied her children any normalcy make her a poor role model for any mother. How is greed, anger, selfishness, lying a good example to any mother? The sheeples need to wake up and see her for who she really is.

cheryl said...

Like an old joke, the gal has a beautiful shape, face, then she opened her mouth and blew the whole thing.
On her first view day, she will demurely sit, the others will be polite, then the second day, watch out, k is familiar now and the others will attack - she will leave with her normal rude persona in tack. She'll blow it. Ummmmmm.
I'll read the recaps.

Renee said...

Some posters have questioned why Kate would need a bodyguard. Kate tends to bring out the worst in people and I would not be surprised if she has received some rather disturbing "fan mail". Considering the extreme reaction that people have towards Kate ,do you blame her for having a bodyguard?

Ohio Buckeye said...

Tsk, tsk to K8's PR team for allowing K8's photograph from her Cleveland appearance to include a bottle of water at her side....a good visual reminder of how K8 recently refused to listen to her kids' request for water even while SHE opened a bottle of water and drank it HERSELF.

My guess is that K8 is a PR nightmare - hard to polish up and keep ahead of such an obnoxious personality that continues to show itself despite huge PR ($$$) help and spin.

Maude said...

The question that keeps coming up, why does Kate have a body guard?

IMO, she has a body guard because she has an inflated sense of self importance. A main symptom of narcissism.

How she got TLC to go along with it (i.e. pay)is another question all together.

LovingMom said...

"Please someone assure me Khate isn't doing "The View" as some sort of "audition" for a regular role on that or another talk show!!?"

Everything Kate has done on the show or off it during the past year has been an "audition" for talk show or other hosting gig. That's why she needed the physical and PR makeover.

If it gets the kids off the air, I'm all for Kate trying to make it alone on TV because I think she'll FAIL miserably. And then there will be no going back to a weekly show with the kids, only D-list appearance on Celebrity Fit Club-type productions. Just where she belongs.

Midnight Serenade said...

"
I am telling you people this is all a bunch of crap...she has the BG to keep her from getting into trouble. She is volatile and TLC knows it. She is hot lava ready to explode at any given moment. He is there to keep the public safe from karate Kate. Just in case the meds wear off in the middle of a "job" or "business" venture they are on."

It could be both. She could have received threats (she's not really the most loved person on the planet), AND he's there to keep her from going off on people. Does he get double pay/overtime for both jobs?

acon said...

keeblerc said...I wondered if the plane was chartered as at one point Khate said there were "19 people on the plane and 14 of them are us." A morning flight from Pittsburgh or wherever to Utah being almost empty?

At the time this happened someone posted on another board that she and her family had been on that flight. It was a regular flight, not a chartered one just for K8 and crew.

cheryl said...

Bodyguard?? Death Threats??
Who is this world would jeopardize their life for her?? Unreal.

Ms.Peach said...

grannyoftwo said...
Why should GINA NEILD be placed with the burden of HAVING to be photographed publicly with her husband in an attempt to preserve her family's integrity and quell TABLOID rumors?

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Steve is employed by TLC (his firm is used, I believe, exclusively by TLC). So, if he wants a paycheck, he does what he is told to do. Makes sense to me since TLC is depending on Kate's image to sell. As much as I believe Steve and Kate are an item, it also makes sense that the reason he has been subjected to such tabloid exposure is that he is a decoy as to whom she is really having an affair with. It'll all come out eventually. Jon's mistake may have been "speculating" to Kevin and Jodi instead of getting some solid proof.

Ms.Peach said...

It's my choice said...
I wish Sarah Ashlyn would commented on here and had a blog up about cooking for Kate would speak up once and for all and put all the rumors to bed. She seemed to be telling the truth but she stated she quit her blog because she was receiving a ton of hate mail from Kate fans.
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Since this was an anonymous blogger, there's no way to know if her allegations are true or not. Since she identified herself as someone who delivered food, then I guess those who knew the crew could figure out who it is. Whatever, there's just something about Kate that really bothers me, and as I read more and more about PR, TLC, and the way crew members are kept silent, I think there's some real dark secrets being kept from the public. We all sense it.

Steve's a babysitter said...

Granny of two, you may be on to something. As infuriating as Kate is, who on earth would want to kill the mother of eight young kids, even if said mother is an asshole? Also, Steve does not appear to be guarding Kate so much as accompanying her. I believe Kate's behavior did get her into trouble when Steve wasn't around. Wasn't she photographed hitting Leah and crying on her driveway when he was gone? So maybe TLC does pay for this overqualified babysitter to keep her in line. Their relationship may or may not be platonic but he does seem to calm her down and make her happy. I just want to know why HE does this. Is it about the paycheck or does he like the attention too? Does he love Kate, as gross as that sounds? Why would he ruin his professional and personal reputation for this selfish cow? And how understanding does Gina have to be? At some point you'd think she'd put her foot down and tell Steve he's overinvolved with his client, even if he is just a glorified babysitter. Enough is enough. If Kate really needs a bodyguard, she can hire another one. If the relationship is confusing to Jon, then how must it look to the Gosselin and Neild kids? Steve will be lucky to work again if he doesn't set boundaries with Kate, or better yet, resign.

Dr.HouseTwopFan said...

I agree with ErinKate who stated that it is Oprah and her dynasty pushing Kate. It makes a lot of sense to me because Kate is really a nobody tabloid trash queen like Kim K or those Lohans. She belongs in the same category as Anna Nicole, a joke.

Vanessa said...

Ohio Buckeye,

Your very welcome.

Sissy said...

But all jokes aside, with Kate's blatant disregard and disrespect for men, I could totally see her being into women.

9/12/2009 3:19 PM


Jake said...
keeblerc said...
Please someone assure me Khate isn't doing "The View" as some sort of "audition" for a regular role on that or another talk show!!?

I am all for Kate getting a regular role on a talk show if it gets the kids off tv. People can choose to watch the show or not as they wish and the kids can have their privacy back.

9/12/2009 3:36 PM
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I would like Kate NOT to get a talk show or any other type of work that keeps her in the public eye.

I would like her to have to work HARD in something like migrant workers do, or under educated people do. These types of workers know what it means to be totally exhausted at the end of the day, besides being under-paid, under-housed, and often without cars, using public transportation.

I see these hard working folks and I think they work harder than any other people in America.

And Kate has "earned" millions of dollars by giving birth to a litter and being a really, really nasty person.

Megan said...

@ NumberONEslot

Maybe you should take your own advice?

Not everyone who participates here is a conservative or a liberal or *insert label here*.

Let's keep the discussion focused on the Gosselins, their 8 exploited faces, and the ways that we can impact the sponsors of this exploitation.

THANKS

Ohio Buckeye said...

My9Cats: What a good post! Thanks!

Sure hope, in addition to doing your laundry (all by yourself!) that you didn't also have to (gasp!) REPLACE A SCREEN!! lol

MickeyMcKean said...

Renee said...
Some posters have questioned why Kate would need a bodyguard. Kate tends to bring out the worst in people and I would not be surprised if she has received some rather disturbing "fan mail". Considering the extreme reaction that people have towards Kate ,do you blame her for having a bodyguard?

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I do not own any DVDs of the show and I no longer watch reruns.

I remember an episode where Jon and Kate are answering emails from fans (don't laugh - this was the first time I realized that they must have a website and an address posted to email them.)

Anyway ... I recall that they both acknowledged that not all emails are positive; they usually just delete an email if it sounds negative in the subject line.

Could there have been death threats? Perhaps. Maybe someone local on a fixed income who made a love offering and then found out that they were lied to ... or someone watched her act up when she had to wait in line at a store ... or maybe just your normal wacko that comes out of the woodwork to someone they see on TV.

IMHO even though I believe Kate could be the most hated person in the USA today, not everyone would immediately issue a death threat.

However there is also THIS BLOG. TLC and/or Kate who I am sure read these threads may think that one or all of us are "loons" or as someone else said, "take it to the next level" LOL

I don't think she needs a BG full time and I think TLC is having Steve around to keep Kate from an outburst in public. They know she acts like a diva and an outburst, especially one caught on film, would be hard to do damage control after the fact.

Something else to think about - if the death threats were legit, FBI would be called in and a loving parent would immediately stop the cameras so the kids don't get hurt.

lesbian reader said...

Maybe Kate is really a lesbian and she is having the relationship with Gina, lol.

But all jokes aside, with Kate's blatant disregard and disrespect for men, I could totally see her being into women.

9/12/2009 3:19 PM

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Seriously?

I don't know if this has occurred to you but generally women are lesbians because they love and are attracted to women, not because they have a 'blatant disregard and disrespect for men'. What decade are you living in? The ignorance in your post is worthy of Kate herself.

marypoppins said...

Addison said...
Wow, was anyone else seriously creeped out by Kate's shrieking "come and get your popcorn" in that freaky/obnoxious voice in the commercial for next week's episode? I bet the kids were. Talk about nails on chalkboard. Yikes.
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I feel sorry for the sound guy who hears it all on his headset/headphones!

marypoppins said...

.HouseTwopFan said...
She belongs in the same category as Anna Nicole, a joke
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If TLC wanted wholesome family programs, they would have dropped the gosselin family long ago.

The fact that they keep this show on air, shows that they are only interested in the ratings.

marypoppins said...

With all this publicity, can the bodyguard ever work for someone else?
His photo/ face is now familiar-it would be hard to be "undercover".

Ms.Peach said...

Renee said...
Some posters have questioned why Kate would need a bodyguard. Kate tends to bring out the worst in people and I would not be surprised if she has received some rather disturbing "fan mail". Considering the extreme reaction that people have towards Kate ,do you blame her for having a bodyguard?
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Yeah, but Steve doesn't act like a bodyguard. He just does Kate's bidding, escorts her to functions, eats dinner alone with her, stands around, and really didn't do a good job of shooing away the paps in NC. If there were death threats, which in this nutty world could be a possibility, then why doesn't the guy carry a gun? The only thing I've seen on him is a cell phone. If the threats were real, then why oh why would Steve risk his wife's life? I think the excuse of death threats make Kate seem more important than who she is.

marypoppins said...

cheryl said...
Bodyguard?? Death Threats??
Who is this world would jeopardize their life for her?? Unreal
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Someone who was really upset that Aaden didnt get that cupcake. LOL!

fidosmommy said...

acon said...
keeblerc said...I wondered if the plane was chartered as at one point Khate said there were "19 people on the plane and 14 of them are us." A morning flight from Pittsburgh or wherever to Utah being almost empty?

At the time this happened someone posted on another board that she and her family had been on that flight. It was a regular flight, not a chartered one just for K8 and crew.

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I wonder if this family (the other 5 people) will ever fly again after that experience!

fidosmommy said...

Maude said...
I think we need to keep in mind that none of the ladies on the View, save Barbara Walters, are journalists. They are in no way required to remain impartial.


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The View is part of ABC's entertainment arm, not news. Babs
is still involved in some respect
with the news division perhaps, but you are right about the others.
They can honk any horn they want to and not have to answer to anyone. But you have to remember this is show business where butts are kissed all the time because you may need that person sometime in the future for another show biz
gig. The View itself probably has a 'no piss off' clause somewhere in the contracts, too. It goes far beyond simple manners - it's
The Biz.

keeblerc said...

I think Granny of Two and others here have really hit the nail on the head when it comes to explaining Steve's role! Does Khate need a bodyguard to protect her from crazed fans, probably not. Does Khate need a companion to carry her purse, make her feel important, prevent public meltdowns and protect Khate from Khate, absolutely!!!

my9cats said...

Ohio Buckeye said...

My9Cats: What a good post! Thanks!

Sure hope, in addition to doing your laundry (all by yourself!) that you didn't also have to (gasp!) REPLACE A SCREEN!! lol

Why thank you Ohio Buckeye.
Laundry is done, then I went food shopping, filled up the tank, cleaned litterpans, and checked in on GWOP. ALL BY MYSELF! Aren't I great? Now I'm going to relax and work on my wall quilt. Please note I'm not exhausted.

keeblerc said...

This likely has been brought up before, however, with every week's new revelations I have become increasingly curious about when the J&K relationship became truly unsalvageable. I'd love to hear what you all think because I'm pretty perplexed!

I'm trying to do the math and what I've got so far is this:

The tups were born in May 2004 and production of the first season of the TV show began in October 2006 when they were around 2 1/2. The tups are now 5 and four complete seasons have been filmed and Season Five has aired a few episodes but for the most part is still in production, correct?

In a recent interview, Khate stated they'd been "growing apart for years" and "with or without the TV show, we would have broken up. It played no role (in the split)." In her divorce filing, Khate says they have not been living together "for more than two years."

So-were they pretty much kaput as a couple by the start of Season 2? (making the vast majority of the series a total sham/scam?!) And when do you think TLC knew and became party to the deceit?

BTW, I've recently watched some episodes from Seasons One and Two as well as the special that started it all, "Surviving Sextuplets & Twins." Perhaps this is 20/20 hindsight but the Khate we got to "know and love" in the special and the Khate of Season One are distinctly different. Who knows? Maybe the marriage was crashing and burning from the beginning?? Any thoughts?

sayitisntso33 said...

In my opinion, there has to be another man in Kate's life. She would NEVER cut a man loose until she had someone else lined up. She had everything to lose by going her separate ways with Jon, in her almighty image pereception.

I've known many narcisstic women like Kate throughout my life, and they can not stand to be alone without a man, no matter what she says. Is it Steve or someone else (personal trainer), I don't know, but I guarantee she has someone in the gallows.

keeblerc said...

Mary Poppins said:

During this flight Cara who was sitting in the aisle across him walks over to Kate to complain about Maddy.

You can see the body guard hold her arm to stop her.
Cara pulls away from him and speaks to Kate anyway.

Huh?

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I just watched the scene you're referring to and it happened just as you remember. Steve has this scrunched up look of concern (wondering perhaps will whatever Cara wants to tell her mother put Khate over the edge?) and indeed grabs Cara's wrist to stop her. She manages to shrug him off and talk to Khate who has this wide-eyed crazed look on her face. And this is before she learns the airport has closed and they'll be taking a nice long detour to Boise--which is her stated reason for her eventual meltdown. It's bizarre! I guess he also serves as the buffer between Khate and the kids.

Roxxy said...

For those that think or fear Khate will get her own talk show, think about this for a moment. In order to be successful you have to be likeable, come across as sympathetic when called for AND be able to fill a studio audience on a daily basis. Does anybody here think that she is capable of doing one of these thing let alone all three? Better men & women than Khate have tried and failed. Some miserably. Khate will be the latter.

Ladylou said...

sayitisntso33 said they were sure Kate must have another man on the side.
I beg to differ....
Woman like Kate like to chew up & spit men out. She will never let a man take the dominant role as she wants the spot for herself.
Her nature is so self-serving that she needs no one to make her life complete.
In earlier times she may have "needed" a man for the financial stability he might offer but now that the show makes millions Kate has all she needs. She is so enamored with her own reflection in the mirror she requires only herself to make her happy.

Maude said...

I'm just not buying the death threat excuse for why Kate has a bodyguard. I agree if her life was in danger he would behave more like he was actually guarding her body instead of just being there to carry her purse and water bottle.

And then expose his wife to this possible threat, I don't think so.

I think it makes Kate feel important, and like I said before, she has an inflated sense of her own importance and really believes she needs, and of course, DESERVES this kind of treatment and attention.

Ms.Peach said...

Hey, if anyone out there is from PA, what's the status on the Dept. of Labor investigation? Will they just release a statement regarding their findings? Can all the evidence be made public per whatever open records law there is in PA?

LP said...

On TMZ last night they referred to Lindsey Lohan's bodyguard as the highest paid babysitter in LA. Steve - You are right up there with him. I strongly believe (as others have stated) that he is there to babysit rather than protect k8.

kim said...

i'm watching ellen this morning and her guest is sharon osbourne. they are playing a game where ellen shows her a picture of a celebrity and sharon says the first thing that comes to mind. when shown a picture of jon & kate she takes the picture, throws it and says "it's just wrong." so glad to see a real celebrity dissing them. the view is on next. i'm curious to hear what they say about kanye west but refuse to watch.

Yolanda said...

I've finally realized that Kate is here to stay - for awhile at least. She has the entire TLC PR Team behind her, the media is kowtowing to her; she will definitely be invited to more women shows and invited to speak on talk shows; the shows all love controversy and there is controversy everywhere she goes. And controversy means ratings!

I also think her "cookbook" (barf) will probably be published and the whole book tour will start up again.

For some ungodly reason Kate has legions of fans who, no matter what, will stay loyal.

However, because she truly has no talent - her time of fame will end. She can't write so her books won't sell. She can't speak intelligently, so she won't get to host her own show. And in the off chance she's given an opportunity to do so - the ratings won't support her. Better people have tried. A cooking show? She has to actually know how to cook! A talk show? She has to know how to talk. A spokesperson for single mothers? Possibly. But how long will that last. Unfortunatley, she can't stop her kids from growing up. Will she get endorsements? Maybe some. But heck, Hershey pulled out. HeathTex pulled out. It's not like they're knocking down her door. Right now, all she has is the tabloids. And that is why she is DESPERATELY feeding that frenzy.

But every tabloid story goes away. Eventually it will be time to move on to the next story.

Kate will always have her followers. If she's careful, she can making a living off them. She's already started to play them. At the Cleveland women's show, she said "she loved" her fans instead of her usual "they love me" statement.

But even though right now she seems to be "hot", I've decided to stop gnashing my teeth in frustration. It's just not worth it.

I know Kate will disappear eventually. She's not someone who can sustain a celebrity life. She just doesn't have it in her.

So let her frolic her way now through the tabloids. Let her have her 15 minutes of fame (or 30 minutes), but it will end.

(Please, please, please...let it end).

FormerFanofJonandKate said...

Jon is partying at the post MTV VMAs party. How does his behavior (away from the kids partying) and Kate's search for fame and stardom (away from the kids in NYC getting ready to co host on The View) benefit the children?!?

They both go on and on about how everything they do is for the kids but I don't see how. Who do they think they are kidding....everything they do is for themselves!

Pa Mom Knows said...

"Steve has this scrunched up look of concern (wondering perhaps will whatever Cara wants to tell her mother put Khate over the edge?) and indeed grabs Cara's wrist to stop her. She manages to shrug him off and talk to Khate who has this wide-eyed crazed look on her face."

So when it is part of a bodyguard's job description to discipline a child? Does he get paid over-time for that? I'm surprised Cara didn't turn around and say, "You're not my father!"

Priscilla W said...

If TLC wanted wholesome family programs, they would have dropped the gosselin family long ago.

The fact that they keep this show on air, shows that they are only interested in the ratings.

9/13/2009 12:04 PM
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You are absolutely correct. TLC President, Eileen O'Neill bluntly stated that "it is hard to walk away from high numbers."

Not a word about how the Gosselin kids are being affected by letting the whole world see how their lives are spinning out of control.

I can only imagine the things the little Gosselins have been taunted with. Kids can be mean and kids like to tease others.

Hannah W. said...

I've decided that really I don't care what Kate and Jon do as "jobs", they could be on TV the rest of their lives, and I wouldn't care, it's the children I care about. They're the ones who need to get off the air.

silimom said...

Hmmm....I wouldn't mind reading a tell all from Steve and Gina Neild. I'm sure that confidentiality clauses prevent it, but I bet they'd have a lot to say.

Donna Day said...

Oh my God! The account on youtube that gave us "ugly gosselin moments" (aka kate being rude and mean to jon and the kids) has BEEN TAKEN OFF OF YOUTUBE and the account is suspended :(


WOW. kate's PR people and worshipers are really attacking

nanb said...

Just reading an article on justjared re: Christian Siriano and Kates hair

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009/09/15/christian-siriano-kate-gosselin-is-trying-to-rock-my-look/


For those who don't want to go to the site, here it is for a chuckle:

Project Runway winner Christian Siriano recently asked UsWeekly “Is she trying to rock my look? Oh my god. It’s cute. It’s fun!”

The 23-year old continued, saying, “I understand, personally, it is a lot of look, but you know what is so funny is I know so many women who are literally obsessed with that hairstyle. It’s crazy because if she was a real person, which at this point, now she is not, then I think it is a cool, cute look. If she really was an everyday mom, I think I’d be like, ‘Oh lady, look at you, you look fabulous!’ Now she needs to up her game.”

Then Christian admitted isn’t a fan of the show! He said, “No. I am not a fan. Like, I can’t say that because what am I a fan of? ‘I loved that episode where you yelled at your child for four hours!’”

Dunwoody Mom said...

LOL - commenting on Kate's "hairstyle":

Project Runway winner Christian Siriano recently asked UsWeekly “Is she trying to rock my look? Oh my god. It’s cute. It’s fun!”

The 23-year old continued, saying, “I understand, personally, it is a lot of look, but you know what is so funny is I know so many women who are literally obsessed with that hairstyle. It’s crazy because if she was a real person, which at this point, now she is not, then I think it is a cool, cute look. If she really was an everyday mom, I think I’d be like, ‘Oh lady, look at you, you look fabulous!’ Now she needs to up her game.”


Then Christian admitted isn’t a fan of the show! He said, “No. I am not a fan. Like, I can’t say that because what am I a fan of? ‘I loved that episode where you yelled at your child for four hours!’”

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009/09/15/christian-siriano-kate-gosselin-is-trying-to-rock-my-look/

Swissmiss150 said...

I was at the library last night and normally flip through "People" magazine if someone else is not reading it.

Kate was on the cover. And someone at the library had placed a label squarely over Kate's MOUTH with the name and address of the library.

What a hoot! Was that intentional or not???

Ms.Peach said...

FYI, according to David Zurawik, Baltimore Sun TV critic, he has not yet found the ratings for the Dude Ranch show. Says Z in answering a blogger:

If TLC won't release them, they won't be out there -- that is the way it works with cable numbers. But you can usually read between the lines if a cable channel won't release them.
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Very interesting....we are right to conclude that the numbers were low. I'd like to know how those that posted ratings got that information because there is nothing online.

MickeyMcKean said...

Donna Day said...
Oh my God! The account on youtube that gave us "ugly gosselin moments" (aka kate being rude and mean to jon and the kids) has BEEN TAKEN OFF OF YOUTUBE and the account is suspended :(


WOW. kate's PR people and worshipers are really attacking

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The PR people and worshipers may be working in overdrive, but the fact remains that the "ugly Gosselin moments" can still be found very easily on TLC and DVDs.

The truth is out there ... F O R E V E R.

SAHM said...

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/09/exclusive-interview-jon-gosselin-suicide-bombshell-%E2%80%9Ci-want-kill-myself%E2%80%9D

The people of PA must really be hurting for money.... I wonder how much she was paid for this interview??

InkstainedPsyche said...

I went to my dentist today for my usual 6-month visit and had gone through x-rays and was sitting in the chair, waiting for my cleaning to start. I had a bit of time so I looked over at the magazine holder to see if I could find something decent to read. Ugh. The magazine on top was the July 27th issue of People. And who was on the cover? Jon! I don't remember what the teaser was, but it was something about dating. I think Kate may have been on the cover in another photo, but I tried not to look too closely.

I dug through the magazines and found an issue of Time from Nov. 2008 (it's the dentist office, all the magazines are way out of date) and put it on top of the People one. Then I settled for just looking out the window at the street below. Far more interesting.

Dunwoody Mom said...

That Radaronline "interview" with Stephanie's mother is so over the top and vile it's unbelievable.
Kate's people better be careful - the more vile you become the piling-on to Jon factor could cause some sympathy his way.

lindahoyt said...

Just a reminder of who Jon use to be!

"You can have all the fancy gadgets in the world but you are still going to have to raise those kids. GOD has taught us to rely on him and him only. No matter what we are human and humans are not as reliable as you think. God will NEVER let you down. "Ask and you shall receive." -"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find;
knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that
asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him
that knocketh it shall be opened...If ye then, being evil,
know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much
more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things
to them that ask him?"
Matthew -8, 11, KJV

"And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer,
believing, ye shall receive."
Matthew 21:22, KJV

#88000, "RE: Extreme Makeover Home Edition"
In response to Reply # 42


Excuse me. Why can't we just be happy for these families and leave it alone. Let them worry about the taxes and expenses. It's their business, not ours. Why are you all trying to figure out his salary, how much the utilities would be, and the waterpark expenses? Why do we have to be so negative and look on the downside of everything. After all, they did get scholarships for all seven children and free nanny service for a year. You can't beat that!


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#88001, "RE: Extreme Makeover Home Edition"
In response to Reply # 43


Because it is all fake!!!!!!!!! I can't be happy for them. I feel sad for them. No offense you wouldn't understand, and I don't expect you to. I was trying to let everyone know what it is really like. Its hard enough to raise 6 kids and now you have to deal with the added mess. I just don't want anyone to make the seame mistakes. We live and learn. Sorry to burst your Utopian bubble. I'll drop the issue. Goodbye! "

Read it Here.

Dunwoody Mom said...

I think the reason for all of the nasty stories about Jon from Kate's camp is simple - they have tried, and failed, to make Kate look good. And now, the only way they believe they can make Kate look good is to destroy Jon - no matter the costs to the children.
Watch out Kate. Jon has changed lawyers - your time may be up.

Ava Rose said...

Why is kate famous again? Was she a singer?? A dancer? A popstar? Is she a hollywood actress? ohh wait, she birthed 6 kids and has dreams of being a celebrity!! Ohhh okay!

Word to the wise:
- if you want to be a strong woman, disrespect people who don’t listen to your orders
- find a pushover husband that will wait on you hand and foot and once you make it big, leave him
- breakups aren’t easy so if you want to have a “civil” one, call the paparzzi, and get them to stalk that no use of man and take pictures of him and random girls
- if you get the opporunity to have people on your side, play the victim
- anytime you see a camera, be natural and POSE and be near children. The public loooves that stuff
- be driven and ambitious - go for your dreams! Go on as many talk shoews and do interviews to get your name out in public more! And ask veterns like “dr. phil” for advice!
- family members are not important in life - it’s people that are useful to you and once you don’t need them, you can kick them to the curb
- most importantly, if you wanna be famous, take some fertility treatments and keep them popping!

Tess H. said...

Not sure if anyone posted this but I see that the old house price has been lowered to $299,900.

crabbygirl said...

Personally, I love Paula Deen but that love affair will be over if she does a talk show with Kate Gosselin. I will lose all respect for her. I am so sick of how everything seems to be tied to Oprah.(Kelly Ripa, Dr. Phil,etc.)Now Paula Deen too? Kate hardly has the personality or speaking skills to carry off a talk show.

super curious now said...

ok. yes, hailey glassman is not the most believable/reliable source.... but is anyone else as freaking excited to hear what she has to say about 'katezilla' as i am????????

i would give just about anything to never have to hear/read anything kate has to say ever again...

and id give just as much to hear/read what jon, hailey and literally ANY other person 'close' to her has to say about the reality of things.

do you guys think that when the divorce is final we'll hear more from jon or hailey?

connie.collins said...

Serena said...

"I NEVER MET A KID I LIKED." - W.C. FIELDS

Administrative Note: Yesterday, we published this piece, written from the perspective of someone whose former defense of the show Jon & Kate Plus Eight was fueled by her infatuation with the Gosselin children.

Today we present the piece below, written from the perspective of someone who freely admits that she finds children (children in general, not the Gosselin children in particular) quite distasteful. If I didn't know better, I would say that Kate Gosselin herself wrote that second paragraph.

The difference is that Kate went on to have children, whereas the author below has wisely chosen not to. I believe it is babies that Kate loves, but once they outgrow that doll-like state, she (like any self-respecting narcissistic) finds them annoying, inconvenient, and far more trouble than they are worth.

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Reprinted from a published comment written by Anonymous.

My two younger sisters have nine children between them, and they've been chattering about this show for a while. Their opinion is mostly negative, and mostly centers around the exploitation of the kids. Last night we were all at one of their homes, and they had me watch several episodes in a row. Afterward, they asked me to go to this website and post my thoughts.

Here's why: I don't have children. I don't want children, never did. I don't even like children. I don't think they are cute, adorable, precious or any of the usual terms. To me, even my nieces and nephews are simply annoying. I don't want their sticky-fingered hugs or germ-ridden kisses, and I have no capacity or interest in having conversations on a child's level. I like the life the two of us have, the peace and quiet, being able to go where we want when we want, not having to deny ourselves anything because "the kids come first". And the thought of pregnancy and delivering one baby (let alone six at once) horrifies me.

So with that background info in mind, as my sisters asked, I'll give my thoughts after seeing the show: I wouldn't begin to recognize the signs of kids being affected by the exploitation. To me they act as insufferable as all other kids I've ever had to bear witness to. I feel sorry for their neighbors and for any innocent bystanders in public or private whose space they invade without paying for it.

But, I see a lot of me in Kate. In her body language, her attitude, and her commentary. She is one self-centered individual, like a rooster who thinks the sun comes up every morning just to hear her crow. She's all smiles when she gets everything her way, but heaven help the world when she doesn't. I wouldn't in a million years take her for someone who would or could handle eight children without having a nervous breakdown, unless she could shirk off as much responsibility as possible on to others. The line she repeats at the beginning of every episode confirms this "I could very well lose my mind".
In fact the main difference between her and me is that her husband is tantamount to a ninth child. They married young, perhaps she didn't think it through, but someone with her ruthless ambition couldn't have stayed with an uneducated, unambitious man-child like that had the whole sextuplet/TV show thing not presented itself, and if he has a brain, he should have his own lawyer looking out for his interests separately from hers... for the time when the producers tell Kate that ratings are low and the show needs something to pique viewer's interest... something like a divorce, and the "plight" of a single mom trying to raise twins and sextuplets.
9/12/2008 12:57 PM

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Was snooping through some old threads and came across this eerily accurate post....it is almost as if the blogger had the ultimate magic 8 ball or something....I read it and thought it deserved to be shared again...

konGOaway said...

Just saw this on Paula Deen's website
http://getcookin.pauladeen.com/discussion_posts/list/2/8317/1

Paula will be in NY for a TV cooking show pilot with a "guest STAR"

konGOaway said...

Here is a better link to the newsletter invitation for the pilot

http://getcookin.pauladeen.com/discussion_posts/list/2/8317/2

Ms.Peach said...

Ho, Ho, Hee, Hee!!! Kate just got the worst hairstyle for 2009 by none other than People magazine!!!

dee has had enough... said...

radar online just posted that they are getting rid of the dogs. per "an inside source", the dogs are jon's and kate can't take care of them when she is at the house. since jon can't take the dogs to his apt in ny, they are going back to the breeder. guess kate didn't catch that episode where she told us the dogs were the kids christmas gifts! I always new that she was selfish but even this is a new low for her. with all the people they have working there you mean to tell me there is no one who can take care of the dogs? god she makes me sick!

Its on the radio now said...

I live about an hour from the G's in Eastern Pa, and this morning I heard a female radio announcer on 101.4 say, "Did all of you see Kate's NEW hairdo on the View?, Wasn't it softer and lovely? So much better then the reverse mullet. I thought HOW NICE she looks. What did all of YOU think."
I said to myself...and WE at GWOP wonder why the public cannot see through Kate's charade? Its because of THAT kind of shallow, vacuous way of thinking by the media. Unbelieveable.

The dogs must go said...

I just read on another site that Kate is giving the dogs away, since she cannot take care of them while she is "working" and Jon can't take them either, so they have to be re-homed.
We all KNEW it.

K8 aint GR8 said...

THE DOGS ARE GOING BACK TO BREEDER!

Just blame Kate (says Jon).

POOR PUPS...ACTUALLY LUCKY PUPS.

At least they won't be mistreated any more.

K8 aint GR8 said...

About the dogs - I just saw on radaronline photos of the dogs being loaded onto a truck and I wanted to cry.

It's so bloody sad to look at their faces knowing they'll never see their family again.

I HOPE that they stay together and have a fantastic new family who will love them they way they deserved.

SarahinTO said...

...LUCKY PUPS.

At least they won't be mistreated any more.
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True, however, how must the kids feel. What if they really loved those dogs and now they are being taken away from them. This just gets more and more terrible by the day. As if seeing your parents go through a divorce isn't hard enough, now they have to see their best friends taken away.

SarahP said...

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/09/exclusive-jon-gets-rid-his-dogs-blames-kate

I can only imagine how sad it is for the kids to lose both of their dogs. But the animals are probably better off...

K8 aint GR8 said...

SarahinTO said...

What if they really loved those dogs and now they are being taken away from them...

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I'm sure some of the kids loved the dogs, unfortunately due to Jon and Kate's conduct those dogs were not treated with respect.

Jon, you are equally to blame in this matter.

Megan said...

Perhaps this is good news for the dogs, but this is awful for the kids.

When I was 8 my mom was pregnant with my brother. My dad found a kitten under our shed and I was absolutely in love with the thing. We ended up having to give away the kitten after a few days because my parents were worried about whatever disease it is that pregnant women can get from new cats. To make a long story short, 20 years later, this is still known as "the kitten incident" in my family and my parents can't even talk about it, let alone agree on which one of them ultimately decided to send the kitten away, as all they can remember is how terribly upset I was at the time.

Those dogs were pretty much the only stable things in the lives of the G kids. Now what - mom or dad drops in for a day or two and aside from that it's an endless line of babysitters? WTF

Sue in PA said...

konGOaway said...
Just saw this on Paula Deen's website
http://getcookin.pauladeen.com/discussion_posts/list/2/8317/1

Paula will be in NY for a TV cooking show pilot with a "guest STAR"

*************

That goes with this except this says talk show with Paula

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/091409_kate_Gosselin_talk_show

kate_in_cali said...

I feel awful for those kids. Who cares which parent wanted/didn't want the dogs... the KIDS did. With all the other hired people in their lives Kate could certainly hire someone to care for the dogs while she is at the house.
I remember Mady saying in regards to getting a puppy "I just want something that is all mine to love me".
While nannies change, parents alternate being at the house, other family kept at a distance, those dogs were loving buddies to the kids. I cannot believe that parents would be that cruel to take them away and not try to figure out a better solution.
Makes me SO THANKFUL for my own folks and the childhood they gave me.

SarahinTO said...

And anothher thing, if J&K weren't able to take care of two dogs properly, how are they able to take care of 8 kids. Oh right, they can't!

Jake said...

Frankly, it was obvious that Kate never wanted the dogs. I think it was something done to appease Jon. I never got the impression that the kids were that attached to the dogs - judging from the fact that we never saw paps pictures of the kids actually playing with dogs. The only pictures we saw were the ones of kids mauling the dogs.

If Jon really loved those dogs and wanted them, he could have gotten a place to live that would allow for them. Instead he chose a Manhatten apartment inappropriate for German Shephards and too small for 8 children. At soem point, Jon has to take responsbility for his own decisions.

nanb said...

SarahinTO said...


True, however, how must the kids feel. What if they really loved those dogs and now they are being taken away from them. This just gets more and more terrible by the day. As if seeing your parents go through a divorce isn't hard enough, now they have to see their best friends taken away.
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Of course, it is sad for the kids but lets be honest these kids lose people they grow close to all the time: Kate's parents, Aunt Jodi & Uncle Kevin, cousins, Jen Stocks and the rest of the original crew, Beth & Bob and their family, all the volunteers that helped when the tups were young. The children know how fragile their connections are to anyone is based solely on the whims of their parents. Hope there is money for the therapy they are going to need.

Maybe the breeders suggested it after watching the clips of the dogs and the plastic bat. Obviously the not a nanny was incapable of taking care of children and keeping the dogs safe.

Dunwoody Mom said...

The dogs were not a Christmas present for the kids. The process of getting the dogs was just another episode for the show. Quite frankly, I'm surprised they kept them this long.

lindahoyt said...

The dogs were the kids CHRISTMAS PRESENTS! How can they take them away?

This crushes me. The emotional damage these kids have to suffer is horrible.

Nothing, and no one they ever loved has been allowed to stay around. They have never known security or consistancy. It is just a nightmare. And so unfair.

Jon complains about his twenties being "taken" from him---by his own adult choices---but, these poor kids have had their whole LIVES...their whole CHILDHOODS...their whole FAMILY taken away from them! They have lost much more than Jon ever has. He thinks it hurt him when his dad died as an adult; I wish Jon could realise how much the death of their family has hurt 8 little souls.

Lord help the Gosselin Children.

CountMeOut said...

If Jon really loved those dogs and wanted them, he could have gotten a place to live that would allow for them. Instead he chose a Manhatten apartment inappropriate for German Shephards and too small for 8 children. At soem point, Jon has to take responsbility for his own decisions.
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Jake, you are so right!

When my hubby & I moved out of our 1st house to rent a new one, we made sure to rent a place where dogs were allowed! Shocking, I know!

Jon should have taken the dogs with him and then he could have brought the dogs to the McMansion when he was there with the kids.

But, it's not really the living arrangements that are the problem, it's that the two of them are jet-setting around so much, it's too much of a hassle to find someone to watch them. I guess the couldn't find a not-a-dog-sitter, to hang around with the "not-a-nanny."

I wonder if the breeder saw how the dogs were being treated and asked for them back? Like Ellen's dog breeder did?

silimom said...

At some point, Jon has to take responsbility for his own decisions.

***

Amen. The victim mentality is getting a little stale. And before people jump down my throat, I do believe that Jon was verbally and emotionally abused by Kate. And I am glad that he's not going along with her whims anymore and trying to stand up for himself.

That being said, he needs to own his own part in this debacle and he's not doing it. It's all Kate's fault. Hopefully at some point down the road that will change. He needs to stop talking about Kate and focus more on how to help his kids and make a new life for himself and them.

Those poor kids. Hopefully they'll be able to rise above their upbringing someday.

tallblonde said...

Although I'm a true believer in pets being brought into a "forever home" - I'm glad to see them go back to the breeder. They'll certainly be in a better place - either with the breeder or another family.

Stress & turmoil are not good situations for animals - or children for that matter - but at least the dogs can be relocated.

Ms.Peach said...

lindahoyt said...
The dogs were the kids CHRISTMAS PRESENTS! How can they take them away?
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They weren't Xmas presents. Jon said they got the dogs in October. The Xmas presents thing was a sham. The dogs were props to gin up the ratings. I thought the dogs would go away after the divorce, so my only surprise that it happened now. I am digusted that Jon had a pap film this.

SAHM said...

Just thought i would remind everyone of the episode about the dogs.... Kate stated they were for Christmas.....

Puppies - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cth9oB4XAqs&feature=related

Puppies - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xl2A6OIcIU&feature=related

Puppies - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQYY5HXgiJI&feature=related

PK said...

Wow, just Wow!
These two knew they were already separating in Nov/Dec 08.
How could they bring animals into the family knowing it was going to fall apart?
I think I can answer my own question....I don't think they think beyond 5 minutes. They don't think about the future and they certainly are not thinking about their kids.
I have never seen two more selfish people.

In addition, I think the change in lawyers for Jon was because the lawyer advised him against introducing Hailey to the kids. And he did it anyway.
That is just something you don't do..1)while you are still married and 2)not for a long time afterwards.
Selfish, selfish, selfish.

nab219 said...

I have never posted before but today I am outraged and would write to anyone. I cannot believe that the Gosselins got rid of the childrens dogs. I am a animal lover and work with children and can only imagine their upsetment. I would like to see the animal groups (peta etc)use this as an oppurtunity to use this as an example of how stupid the Gosselins are. Animals are a life long commitment. I would love to see people picket their million dollar estate. I hate them now for hurting the children.

Marva725 said...

Dunwoody Mom said...
The dogs were not a Christmas present for the kids. The process of getting the dogs was just another episode for the show. Quite frankly, I'm surprised they kept them this long.
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In the video that Inside Edition has up, Jon says they got the dogs last October. Quite an early Christmas gift.

kate got rid of the dogs... said...

kate tells the kids the dogs are christmas gifts. but, she also threatens to return them numerous times.
the dogs will be fine!!! at least they won't be crated anymore. (kate is the one that needs to be crated).
well, at least the dogs were emancipated---maybe the kids are next! they should be so lucky.
i like how kate HATED the dogs, didn't want them....she is so cunning...she wants them gone, she makes JON DO IT (to make him appear to be the bad guy). what a BITCH.
i wonder what else she has taken from the kids...besides a normal childhood, relatives, their first home, their father..almost tried to sell the twin's christmas ornaments from their deceased grandfather....i just cannot fathom why anyone would think she is a positive role model for anything. apparently most people have a very short memory, or they are just STUPID.

nab219 said...

I have not posted before and still sort of followed the Gosselins and read your site. However todays photos of Jon getting rid ofthe dogs did me in. The dogs were a gift for the children and now Jon blaims Kate for this move. I am furious and can only imagine how the children feel. The dogs were so loved by them. The parents are a example of greed for money. They should return to their church upbringings for help. I would love to see national animal rights groups use this as a means to educate the public. Companion animals are alife long commitment and shoulc not be disgarded during divorce etc. I would also love to see a group like PETA picket their mansion. For shame on them. I really hate them forhurting the kids like this. I wroteto the view and would like a list of others to write to.

WorkerBee said...

These kids are going to grow up with the 'disposable' mentality. Everything is disposable. Something or someone you don't like? Just dispose of it. They will be emotionally detached from
#1 having their parents dropping in and out of their lives b/c of 'work' and #2 because everything and everyone they love gets taken out of their lives when they are no longer of use.

Those poor kids.

Acertaingirl said...

Those beautiful dogs were the only constant in the kid's lives for the past 10 months, now they're gone (it's better for the dogs in the long run IMO).

TLC should just install a revolving front door on the manse, people, things, and now animals come and go so quickly there.

I hope Mady didn't love those pups too much - she will be crushed. I also hope Kate never gets her "yipyip" dog, poor thing won't stand a chance!

just wondering said...

The Berks County Humane Society desrves a huge round of applause for helping to nudge the Gosselins in the right direction of giving back the dogs they never should have brought home in the first place.

These dogs are young and strong and will bounce back in no time. They were being neglected, tormented, and crated and needed to be removed months ago.

I wrote the Berks County Humane Society and thanked them for getting involved and rescuing the dogs before winter arrived as the Gosselins are not mature enough to care about their safety and comfort.

Now if someone could just find a way to remove the children....

kate got rid of the dogs said...

a few weeks back, someone supposedly 'in the know', said the konpound was quietly looking for potential buyers...does anyone know anymore about this?

as for jon trying to be made the bad guy in the dog removal issue...why would he look for another residence that allowed dogs? the dogs belonged to the kids....and the kids live at the PA house..jon can't foresee the future, how was he supposed to know that kate was going to neglect the dogs? and for that matter, the twins are capable of feeding and watering the animals. the dogs are better off, no dog deserves to be owned by kate gosselin.

kate is so stupid, one of these days, those kids will shun her. she doesn't 'get it' now, she won't 'get it' later. i hope she enjoys her own company, because that is all she is going to have.

someone also claims that kate has a condo in maryland. any new info?

one more thing....IF she gets a gig with paula (which, the minute i hear HEY YA"LL i flip the channel--ugh), how far is the commute from her residence (oops, meant the kid's house--silly me!!) to NYC? I cannot fathom the queen of lard hosting with the queen of organic...as paula said, when someone asked her if her dishes were healthy, 'hon, i ain't your doctor'... ( i read that, i can't listen to her voice! lol!)
i am not from that area of the country, so am interested in seeing what kind of commute would be involved..

GosselinsArePathetic said...

The level of irresponsibility of these two clowns is breathtaking. First, pop out 8 kids and expect the state/sponsors to pay for them. Then, get two animals for the sake of a story line.

I actualy feel the most for the dogs. These dogs were pawns in this whole mess. I guess when you can use your kids as a means to an end, animals don't even deserve a second thought when being sacrificed for ratings.

These two make me physically ill. You just don't go out one damn day and decide you are going to get two big dogs without considering the commitment. Well, I guess if you are those two losers you do.

They make me so angry.

kate got rid of the dogs said...

i saw the old episode of the twin's bday...the one where they have to wait outside, since kate is so disorganized and she has to clean everything before they come in....maddy stomps in, kicks the balloon...her mother talks to the cameraman and not her daughter. says something along the lines of, oh, she is going to be a great teenager...then, she says an hour or so later, maddy is fine.
i think maddy had a day at school of being a REGULAR KID....gets home, walks in the door, and there is that DAMN camera....
and these stupid parents think the show isn't harming their kids? it is amazing how they excuse a child acting out to get a paycheck.

what do you bet those kids, when reaching 18, have not one dime to show for their lifetime of work?

Natari said...

As much as I am saddened for the kids I'm extremely pleased the dogs will be re homed.

I have put several post on this site about the way Kate shows her utter disdain in front of the kids and cameras for the dogs.

She only agreed to having them for an episode and made it all about her. Naming them and not letting Maddy name them.

With the revolving door the dogs were forgotten like toys. Yes the kids played with them but also abused them.

Shame on Jon and Kate for bringing the dogs in the first place. I wrote to the PA animal cruelty when the video came out. There isn't a winner here.

wickedsmart said...

No surprises here.
J&K have routinely discard everything of real value in their lives in favor of whatever shiny thing is set in front of them.
They have unbelievably short attention spans.
The dogs are better off. Too bad there is no such solution to save the children from these two.

PJ said...

nab219 said...
The dogs were so loved by them.
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How does anyone have the impression that the dogs were so loved by the kids? Other than the filmed episodes, have we ever seen the kids playing with dogs? We see the kids and dogs outside a lot and have seen nothing that indicates they love the dogs.

my9cats said...

What I'd like to know is why the need for Jon to have a vasectomy after the tups were born. Didn't Kate make a big deal over how difficult it was for her to get pregnant? Oh yeah. Another lie.
BUSTED Kate.

momof2gs said...

Don't know if this has been posted yet but in case it hasn't then

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32877827/ns/today-today_fashion_and_beauty/?GT1=43001

stopthemadness said...

Good for them they got rid of the dogs. They can't care for the mouths to feed and the emotinal needs of their children on their own and haven't been able to since they were infants by Kate's own admission, what business do they have going out for pets to bring them home and crate ignore and abuse them.

The kids' feelings will not be a consideration; Jon wanted the dogs and now he is not there to care for them, he has already dumped his 8 kids onto Kate who as we know "has all the responsibility" and is a "single mom" doing it on her own, so it's HIS fault the dogs are gone. You better believe that is what the kids will here. Daddy why did you go away; because of you Shoka and Nala had to go away too! Mommy can't do everything!

What utter, cynical, control freakish abuse bullsh*t. However it's in the dogs' best interest and possibly in the kids' best interest as well to not see an adult modelling such behavior around pet ownership, you are not going to learn how to care for pets OR children from Kate and Jon Gosselin.

Of the brighter side the honeymoon is over with People magazine. Kate isn't important enough to get worsta dressed by her hair got slammed:
Fashion flubs
Of course, what fun are fashion “do’s” without some fashion “don’ts?” People also let its snarkier side come out as it named some of the biggest fashion misadventures of the year.

Heading up that list is what sits on the head of “Jon and Kate Plus 8” reality TV star Kate Gosselin. Her gravity-defying ’do has become go-to fodder for comedians, and People couldn’t resist having its own poke at Gosselin’s tresses.

“It was a big hair ‘don’t,’ ” Cruz told Morales. “It was kind of a reverse mullet. Some people may have wanted to do it, but there’s the wig version in stores just in time for Halloween, so that will be pretty funny."

chesterctymom said...

Wasn't Khate asked about the dogs when she was yapping in Ohio...and didn't she say something like "wait and see..."...

GoPoshGo said...

Daily News online is doing a poll about whether or not viewers would watch a talk show hosted by Kate. So far 60% have voted "No, she gets enough exposure already." Love it.

Go vote!!!
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/09/16/2009-09-16_kate_gosselin_wants_to_share_her_view_in_her_own_talk_show.html

Pa Mom Knows said...

"i am not from that area of the country, so am interested in seeing what kind of commute would be involved.."
2 1/2 hours, one way, in good traffic. Much longer in winter/snow/horrible road conditions.

stopthemadness said...

LKate is the bad guy on the dogs no doubt however Jon is ALSO the bad guy here. Don't tell me he had no idea what their living arrangements would be last October when they got the DOGS; according to him Kate dropped the bomb on him right around that time but they had not been living together for 2 years prior to that so he knew it was splitsville, he knows his wife enough to know she would not love or appreciate those dogs and he allowed them to be gotten anyway (kinda like how he knew they couldn't support the 2 kids they had by in vitro fertilization - a scant 2 months after they were newly married, because Kate was in such a HURRY - but went ahead and allowed her to get pregnant again with overstimulated ovaries and allowed her to decide to have all of the babies even when he did not want more children.

Jon being a ball-less wonder does not excuse him "allowing" all this stuff to happen. He got dogs that Kate hates and puppies that someone had to feed and clean up after, the show I saw had Kate and the kids doing it. He allows them to run rampant and untrained, no puppy training class. Jon wants motoprcycles he gets motorcycles if Jon wants dogs he gets two puppies and like every other jackass in this country who has no idea of how they will take care of them when the cute puppy factor is over, he allows them to be sent back. I volunteer at two dog rescue organizations and this is nothing new. Dad gets pets to buy points with kids and piss off mom. Mom gives away pets or they are neglected and given back or dumped off somewhere. JUst as with children this is the decision of both parents and both are responsible. I've known couples to fight tooth and nail over custody of a pet only for the "winner" to give them pet away or have it put to sleep, to get back at the other spouse. Kate certainly has enough henchmen and women around there that one of them could walk and feed the pets if they were any kind of priority OR if she cared enough about her kids' emotional needs. This may even be her way at getting back at the wild Aslexis not for hitting the dog with a bat but for doing so when cameras were there - It is a measure of how sick and how low these two 'takers of the high road' have become that they use the pets in this way. But what are two dogs when they use their kids this way as well.

The dogs are LUCKY to be out of the Konpound and off the plantation. Free Shoka and Nala! Free the Gosselin 8!

PAM said...

Isn't it about time we all start to boycott Radar with their pro Kate crap? Look at the amount of comments on their other stories, they are minimal. Comments for the J&K stories are through the roof. We are giving them all their traffic. I no longer want anything to do with that and have blocked the site.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"The Berks County Humane Society desrves a huge round of applause for helping to nudge the Gosselins in the right direction of giving back the dogs they never should have brought home in the first place."

Did they make a public statement saying that they were involved in the removal of the dogs? Online announcement site, please?

John and Kate who cares said...

"i am not from that area of the country, so am interested in seeing what kind of commute would be involved.."
2 1/2 hours, one way, in good traffic. Much longer in winter/snow/horrible road conditions.

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I live 15-20 mins in NJ suburbs from NYC! Only time that happens is 8am on a Sunday morning. Mon-Fri commute 1 - 2 hrs. Forget weather. One car broken down and your DONE! Even mass transit is a good 45 mins.

Donna Day said...

Why is Stephanie's (the babysitter) mom commenting about Jon??? Geez. This is obviously about money because any normal and sane, caring mother would not talk to the media about her daughter's sex life, let alone even know or speak of it. That's disguisting. She is now claiming Jon told stephanie she wouldn't get pregnant b/c of a vasectomy. GROSS.

And I am starting to believe Jon. He may be kinda slow and stupid but people will do anything to get money fr. their family.

What a bunch of white trash losers.

Sonja said...

I noticed in the recent episode how she made a big fus about how she has 'get the house back in order' when she returns. Did I not read somewhere that she is the one in charge of the their money for now and Jon has an allowance? If she is the one access the 'house account' she should be buying the groceries while she's there and making sure to stockup before she leaves. She tries to be passive aggressive with her actions ~duh~ you are being recorded Kate we can all see you for what you really are!!!

Dunwoody Mom said...

Look at the amount of comments on their other stories, they are minimal. Comments for the J&K stories are through the roof. We are giving them all their traffic

It's not us giving them the traffic. Kate's PR firm has most likely employed people to sit and post once the PR firm has submitted the story to Radar.

ATheory said...

I had a thought as I drove my MomTaxi today..not sure why but it was about Steve/KHate/Gina situation. And what Khate said a few days ago when she alluded to the possibility (when asked) about the kids "eventually" getting A New Daddy.
I dont think Khate/her handlers/whoever is in charge of the publicity/ would have done the Steve&Gina visit to the KonPound if they even thought it was a REMOTE possibility that Khate would be ending up w/Stevie-boy. (You know, after an appropriate period of respectful time went by, blah blah). Because, if they even suspected Khate's rumoured lover is Steve, why would they inject Gina in to it now to show the "Brother/Sister" freind aspect if they knew Khate was going to maybe END UP with Steve??? They would look SUPER-ridiculous! I mean, worse ridiculous than they all normally do. But even still, the handlers, who presumably have the grey matter where it comes to Khate, they wouldnt' flub up so badly.
WOULD THEY??

disgusted said...

Radaronline is so pro kate that they have to be on her or TLC's payroll. I will not go there anymore.

Melyssa said...

I saw this posted today at BlindGossip... immediately thought of Kate


She Hides Her Habit with Purell and Perfume

StarMagazine – Which celebrity mom is a secret smoker? She puffs away in private and then hides the smell by applying lots of Purell and perfume. Plus, she chews gum after lighting up to mask her breath.

Tangerine Tanya said...

I am wondering when Kate has one of her melt downs if she is saying "Oh what a world what a world I'm melting"

8POE's said...

I'm REALLY tired of the "for the
kids" mantra. Was getting rid of
the dogs for the kids? I thought
GETTING them was "for the kids"?

Another statement I'm sick of is
"this is their normal" as if that
justifies everything. Ponder this,
black kids in the south during
segregation lived with racism
that's almost unimaginable today.
That was their "normal."

Jewish kids during the holocaust
feared for their lives and many
were in camps where death and suf-
fering were everyday occurences.
That was their "normal."

This demented couple has their 8
kids supporting THEM, keep them
confined to the Konpound, cutoff
from family, a "zoo animal" life.
But it's all OK because it's their
"normal".

What a couple of maggots.

Veronica said...

"The content of the story is shocking, especially in light of the fact that a non-disclosure agreement purportedly prepared by the production company had been signed by the nanny before she started working with the Gosselin family," Gosselin's attorney, Mark J. Heller, tells Usmagazine.com of Santoro's claims to In Touch."



awwww....silly production company. They couldn't tell this chick wasnt exactly a rocket scientist? well, unless you count Jon's 'rocket', of course.


Shoulda had Alexis explain it to her in terms she could understand "now, Steffie, this means don't kiss my daddy and tell."

Veronica said...

oops - Link for above quote/story:

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/jon-gosselins-lawyer-slams-ex-nannys-sex-claims/27946

Ms.Peach said...

A Theory Said...
I dont think Khate/her handlers/whoever is in charge of the publicity/ would have done the Steve&Gina visit to the KonPound if they even thought it was a REMOTE possibility that Khate would be ending up w/Stevie-boy....

...if they even suspected Khate's rumoured lover is Steve, why would they inject Gina in to it now to show the "Brother/Sister" freind aspect if they knew Khate was going to maybe END UP with Steve??? They would look SUPER-ridiculous!

-------------------------------

Something is going on because of Kate's comment about not liking to be alone. I think once the divorce is final and some appropriate time has passed, Kate's boyfriend will be public. Believe me, her handlers know exactly who she is seeing. That's why, contrary to your theory, I think Gina was introduced into the mix. It was a lame attempt to stop the sniffing regarding her and Steve. I don't know for sure, but he is my #1 guess who she is seeing. He is the only man who has been a constant in her life for years now. How many public figures have point blank lied about their affairs? It happens all the time. Handlers know exactly what is going on----remember Senator Edwards. And who uncovered him----a tabloid!

Connie said...

It's a little disgusting Jon thinks he can hit anything in a 250 mile radius of PA and be protected by a confidentiality agreement to keep Hailey and the world from finding out.

crabbygirl said...

In Kate's world the "high road" is aka "my way or the highway". She is so full of it!!

mommytutres said...

Never in my life have I seen someone blow it as Jon has. I don't like either Kate or Jon, but have felt Jon was at least the better parent. With all the various tell-alls from his various lovers, I don't think I've ever seen someone shred his reputation like he has. His divorce and custody would have been a slamdunk, if he would have just kept his head down and stayed focused on the kids. I fear he has blown it and given Kate all the ammo she needs to get what she wants out of the deal. UGH...Jon, seriously dude, catch a clue and put the kids first, stop trolling for babes in the bars, and don't have SLEEPOVERS at your house while in a custody dispute and divorce.

Pattypanda said...

Kate and Paule Deen - just sent a note to Paula at pauladeen.com asking if the rumors about working w/ Kate were true to think twice. I asked her to do a little research on Kate, because she is not a nice person in public or at home. Let's hope Paula has some really good advisors. Love Paula and her pound of buta.

Snap! said...

TLC keeps on showing episodes that fall in line with what is going on in the divorce- The dogs are given away- they showed the puppy episode earlier this week-
Jon is dating Hailey- They showed the tummy tuck episode.
Today they are showing the episode when Kevin and Jon put up shelves- Kate is going on and on about how she loves Kevin- he is such a good uncle- and only lives 5 houses away.
Jon then runs for a ball down the street and Kate says Jon might run away someday- but he won't do it in front of us.
I bet Kevin will be in the news this week-
TLC loves ratings not the Gosselins.

Wildflowers said...

I heard on one of the gossip shows last night (I forget which one - maybe The Insider) Anyway, Kates hair is the number one wig sell this Halloween. The commentator even said why - 'reverse mullet and spikes'. Owww! That has got to hurt!

Renee said...

With every day bringing more mudslinging from either Jon or Kate and the relentless media coverage of every aspect of the Gosselin's life. I have to wonder how the children are doing in school? Would the Gosselin children be teased about the antics of Jon and Kate? There is no way that the children are not hearing about this, in particular Cara and Mady. Hopefully they have some kind and supportive teachers to help them through this difficult time. The parents are not much use to them at the moment!

Sarah Gold said...

PAM said...
Isn't it about time we all start to boycott Radar with their pro Kate crap? Look at the amount of comments on their other stories, they are minimal. Comments for the J&K stories are through the roof. We are giving them all their traffic. I no longer want anything to do with that and have blocked the site.

*****
Computer question: How do you block a website? Would love to do that too. TIA.

getyourpopcornready said...

IMO, the timing of the baby sitter's mom interview, and the interview with Kate Major on Show biz last night falls conveniently timed with information released of the resigning of Jon's previous lawyer and his retaining of new legal counsel. The timing of baby sitter mom and Kate Major interviews smell of the same Kate PR camp smear tactic (Jon clubbing/Deanna) used prior to J & K's big announcement of divorce. Something must be brewing to have Kate's PR camp in full combat mode. I have a sneaky suspicion that Jon and his lawyer are in complete defense mode and a bomb is going to drop real soon.

GoAway said...

This is pure speculation on my part. Somewhere on this blog (don't ask me where) someone said that we'd be surprised to learn who is really Kate's lover. Now here is my theory. Suppose that its really not Stevie-boy but a TLC executive or another hollywood producer who has the power to make Kate's dreams come true. Kate is like Sherman's March, always marching forward and creating havic in her wake. She really can't be doing all this on her own, can she? And can her PR team have this much power to get her on the view and negotiate her own talk show? My gut says there's someone else making this happen for her.

Im_in_PR said...

Poll at New York Daily News: Should Kate get her own talk show?

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