Jon, Kate, and TLC Attract childabuse.net Attention

News report.

Call for boycott of TLC.

Letter one.

Letter two.

146 comments:

Deidre said...

It is about dang time!!

I have a feeling that it wont belong before the gravy train will stop pulling in.

ScarySkierNewJersey said...

(clap clap) Hopefully, the tide is turning.

I haven't watched in awhile, and not because of the pressure not to watch but because it is boring. It's become the Kate Gosselin Show and I have no interest in that. I never warmed up to her personality (or lack thereof). I always liked Jon with his eye rolls, back handed comments etc etc, but after all the crap about him in the news, he really doesn't seem to put the kids first anymore. It's tats, earrings, choppers, girls etc etc. Selfish behavior from the one parent I thought wasn't that way. He really duped me. I am so sick of the "I am only 32 with 8 kids." Who put themselves that situation because you couldn't be the man of the family and say you were happy with the twins and didn't want more? You Jon. You got an early taste of free stuff and than became greedy right along with Kate.

I am praying that the show ends and the kids can relax and be kids. I do worry as others do, about the money stopping and J&K's reaction to that. Gasp.....they may even have to work. Wasn't it Jon that said it wasn't his idea "not to work", yet he still isn't working and is in an expensive apartment, fancy shirts etc etc. These two make me sick!

End it now.......

Tangerine Tanya said...

Very powerful indeed!

CC said...

Between the protestors at their "home" and abusewatch getting heavily involved......maybe the circus will be DONE!!!

Gravytrain pulling in said...

YES! Now THIS is what I'm talking about. Its more then time.

Taybe said...

I doubt that it will do any good, but I wrote to the Today show asking them to give this coverage as a way to counteract their giving Kate a microphone earlier this week.

Concerned Canadian Mom said...

Hallelluah!!!!!
This is fantastic, and will hopefully bring a closure to this circus. If I were J& K I would be mortified beyond beleif that an organization would write this about me and my parenting. Humiliated enough to take note, smarten up, and get help for myself and children!!! HELLO J&K!!! Here's your WAKE-UP call.....time to get up and get with it!!! Before charges come your way!

Concerned Canadian Mom said...

I doubt that it will do any good, but I wrote to the Today show asking them to give this coverage as a way to counteract their giving Kate a microphone earlier this week.
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Excellent idea Taybe!!! Let's hope it works, and let's hope others who have allowed Kate air time, newsprint, etc, will follow suit!!

Im_in_PR said...

My prayer is that the judge in the divorce will appoint a guardian ad litem for each child.

Perhaps then, the children can and will be protected from the predators that call themselves "parents", Jon and Kate.

Calgary7 said...

7.8 million people can't all be wrong!

Thats how many are reading this blog. Congrats to the hard working mods.

To put it into perspective: that's almost 2.3 times the number of people that watched Monday's episode.

Thank you to everyone who is speaking up, writing, reading and taking action.

It's child labour. I don't care whether it is a pair of running shoes or a t- shirt or an entertainment program, I don't want it if it is made with child labour.

I am already boycotting TLC and other Discovery channels by delisting them or putting parental controls on these stations on my tv or other devices.

Within my broader family there are 35 households (I'm embarrassed to say how many tv's) that have delisted or put parental controls on all of the Discovery channels.

You are making a difference.

kate is a cocky bitch said...

Something tells me that because of this most recent development Big-Jon is going to give another one of his 'spontaneous' interviews trying to explain why he and his estranged wife are not a couple of freeloading low-lives

Tami said...

Wow. I am really proud of that guy for at least trying.

MyLittleCat said...

Cops called to Gosselin home...ugh.

Who really knows what goes on at their home when the cameras aren't there. I bet these kids are worse off than we think.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/08/exclusive-cops-called-jon-and-kate-gosselins-house-after-arugment

Susy said...

Thank God, I am so happy to see this! Lets all unite in writing the sponsors etc on the abusewatch site and give John Hendricks of TLC the middle finger ourselves! We can make a difference and I am so glad to see a light at the end of the tunnel..KON are going down and the joy I will feel when this show is off the air will be immense!

Canadian Mom said...

Taybe said...
I doubt that it will do any good, but I wrote to the Today show asking them to give this coverage as a way to counteract their giving Kate a microphone earlier this week.

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Bravo!

All of us GWoP'ers should do the same. Mass e-mails of this 'Breaking News' to EVERY tabloid, talk show and entertainment news program. We all know how they love breaking NEW info.

Hopefully, one of them will pick it up as a 'new development' in the Gosselin tragedy and bring about an end to the show!!

V said...

Cops Called to Jon and Kate Gosselin's House After Arugment

Kate showed up at the house unexpectedly. It's Jon's scheduled time to be there with the kids. Jon didn't want Kate there and they argued.

I bet Kate rushed home to yell at Jon after all these things happened today like protesters with signs at their front lawn and Child AbuseWatch calls for boycott of The Learning Channel.

She probably went home and yelled at Jon "This is all your fault. You should have not paraded your girlfriends." Jon asked her to leave.

Well, Kate asked for it. She dumped Jon for Steve and asked Jon to stay in a fake marriage and have girlfriends by the side quietly. Tabloids broke the story so Kate has to be frank about the failed marriage is over. Jon is a free man doing whatever he wants. She is angry the public is turning against them. She thinks it's all Jon's fault.

Let me tell you, Kate, the public hates you as much as they hate Jon. You guys deserve each other. Birds with the same feather flock together. You are not any better than Jon. You guys are the same and no wonder both of you married each other years ago.

It's not Jon's fault. It's your fault. It's your grand scheme. Jon is just an idiot.

wonderboy said...

I can't tell if Jon is trying to act like a jerk to make public hate the Jon and Kate brand or he is just not using his brain.

Is Jon trying to sabotage the phony happy family brand to make TLC pull the plug? So his kids and he can finally be freed from the TLC contract Kate and he signed several months ago while he was still married and Kate was his boss?

Or he is just stupid?

I have a feeling his recent behavior is beyond silly. It's like a form of rebellion. He is not using common sense at all. Jon gives me the impression that he doesn't want people to like him at all.

Is Jon really trying to get out of Kate's evil palm?

Shun Them! said...

Maybe with more disgusting behavior like this from these two dolts, this boring (yet horrifying) show will be cancelled. And maybe now some "journalists" will ask QFI some hard questions. Regis was on the right track with the "Why don't you stop the show?" but he should have followed up her answer with, "You've made so much money. Why don't you stop the show, give your kids some privacy, and return to nursing, if need be?" Why won't anyone call her on the fact that she is NOTHING without the kids?! She has no talent whatsoever, she is a horrible mother, and a horrible person.

bowtiejess said...

I am so very hopeful that this will be the straw that broke the camel's back. I really do.
I haven't watched in over a year because I prefer to keep my food in my stomach and I nearly vomit every time I hear Khate's screeching pie hole.
You would think that The Loser Channel would be mortified to have this happen, wouldn't you. Yet, I fear it's just a minor annoyance to the blood-sucking soulless money grubbing execs.
I also fear what will happen when this gravy train inevitably derails. We have seen how these two morons act when the dough is rolling in. What will happen when it dries up and they become desperate?

nicole said...

While I appreciate the organization's actions, I think they may be taken more seriously if they would have had those letters edited appropriately. I noticed a few mistakes and I don't even hold a degree.

Ticking Timebombs said...

So the kids are treated to explosive arguments between Mommy and Daddy with the cops being called in to intervene. Over what? They both ditched the marriage, they both sold out their children, so this can only be about money and appearances and we all know Kate will do and say anything to keep up lies and pretenses. I expect her next book deal with be how TLC forced her to lie, she doing so to support her kids. This woman just doesn't get it, the kids do not need a mansion lifestyle, security, etc, they need to get off tv, get out of the public eye, get back to normal, which will happen fast once they are off tv and off the magazine covers. It is Kate's addiction to publicity that is tearing this family apart. That, and her obvious greed. And Jon is no better spending money as fast as he can.

JaxMama said...

Yeah. More people are speaking out.

Perhaps the only thing that will work is lawsuits filed on behalf of the eight for invasion of privacy and such? I'm surprised Gloria Allred or some other lawyer hasn't stepped on the end the abuse bandwagon yet.

I'm writing "Today" too,

muchsmartermom said...

I don't watch the show--I sincerely feel they are destroying there own children right before the worlds eyes.
Kate's quote-- "this is how we support our children" is NO excuse for this abuse of their own children.

Go get jobs you two, take the cameras out of the childrens home, act like the parents you chose to become, get some therapy, downsize your house and spending habits, secure your childrens hard earned money by putting a third party in charge.
Grow up--shut up (get off TV--no more interviews), stop telling lies!!!!!!

Pilgrim Soul said...

I just emailed info to GMA and Today. Great job, everyone.

Tiredof8 said...

JMO but all the publicity (including the police visit) is orchestrated. I still believe, to a certain extent, that this was planned by Jon and Kate to increase ratings for the show. It's just that Jon is enjoying himself a mite too much.

2badsosad said...

Cops called to Gosselin home...ugh.

Thus the reason why this 'revolving door' type visitation agreement should have NEVER even been a consideration!!
Strange how the 'paps' never seem to capture Kate as she is leaving he Konpound, although were quite able to capture a pic (and visably upset according to the article) of her 'checking in' to a hotel just after her 'heated' arguement with Jon and the cops called to their home.

MBach said...

kate/Hate and I believe also Jon, have said that the TLC camera crew following their children around is the "norm" for their kids, and it doesn't trouble them.

Is a child in Africa working in a diamond mine or forced to fight in a war at the age of 8 just living his/her norm? Is a child forced into selling their body to benefit some adult that controls their life just living his/her norm? Is a tiger in a small concrete cage (or a dog overly kept in a crate) that can do nothing except pace back and forth just living the norm?

The Gosselin kids are trapped too. The Gosselin kids are being used by adults who show no regard for their long term well being. Jon and kate/Hate might claim to give the kids a voice on if the "show that is their life" should continue, but what judgement skills could these kids have regarding that choice?

Children have little say in how they are raised. There are many suffering in much worse conditions, of course. However, the Gosselin children have been thrust into the public eye. Is it really blind to this form of suffering?

Dianew said...

Taybe said...
I doubt that it will do any good, but I wrote to the Today show asking them to give this coverage as a way to counteract their giving Kate a microphone earlier this week.
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Yes, I did also. I thought that if they could give Kate Gosselin coverage than they should follow-up with this new development. I am really so very tired of this circus and only wish someone would pay attention to the needs of these children rather then the cha-ching (sp?) of the cash register. Shame on ALL involved!

Tiredof8 said...

Have sent an email to Regis and Kelly asking when they are going to report on this. Gave them my demographics and that I was a "lost" viewer.

Emailed CNN, who has been running links on their front homepage to Kate stories (YUCK) and asked (for the second time) why they are reporting on this sleaze bag. And when they were going to start reporting about the Boycott.

alsoamomtotwins said...

Wow.

Finally.

I went to the site but couldn't find the list of advertisers they said they were going to post.

Does anyone know where that is?

Not a fan of either said...

Wow. Just wow. And yet TLC just keeps rolling along. Make no mistake about it. TLC is the lowest of the low. They have put profit before decency. They care nothing about these children and that being the case, they care nothing about children anywhere and everywhere. I will continue to boycott this channel and will spread this recent information as far as I can. These child abuse advocates have so eloquently put this all in perspective that I would hang my head in shame if I dared watch this show again. Of course, people have a right to watch if they want, I'm just speaking for myself. But I'm begging you not to.

Debra said...

Here is part of the article about the police being called to the Gosselin's the other night. It is from the "D-Listed" site. It is a clean quote, but funny.

"Radar says that the police were called to the Gosselins compound in Pennsylvania last night, because Kate's possum head hissed, growled and snarled after Jon refused to let her into the house"

Midwest Teacher said...

If the cops were called to the home then you cannot tell me those kids aren't being exposed to some vicious fights and arguing. Those poor children. I'm sure they're experiencing some awful situations right now. It's been obvious from the very beginning that these two will never be able to have a cordial divorced relationship. The kids are going to be pushed and pulled their entire lives. Poor babies! Makes me very sad.

Just Julie said...

If nothing else, perhaps when Team 8 grows up and has to wrestle with the lasting effects of this mess, they will have documentation that childabuse.net recognized the abuse and contacted TLC and it's advertisers and tried to halt production. Should come in handy when they decide to sue, sue, sue.

Get kids off reality TV said...

So when do they go after "Toddlers and Tiara" for glamorizing child abuse? Because that is all that show does.

reenie0912 said...

I just read that the cops were called to the Gosselin home because these two "winners" were arguing. What disturbs me about this,(among other things), is that no one is saying who made the call. That house is so far away from the road, no one would hear any arguing. So i'm thinking one of the kids made the call from inside the house! Who else would've called?? Those poor children. Imagine what they're seeing and hearing behind closed doors!!

Mom of 5 said...

I am praying that the show ends and the kids can relax and be kids. I do worry as others do, about the money stopping and J&K's reaction to that. Gasp.....they may even have to work. Wasn't it Jon that said it wasn't his idea "not to work", yet he still isn't working and is in an expensive apartment, fancy shirts etc etc. These two make me sick!

I think we are all right there with you in the "make me sick" thing!

For what it is worth...supposedly they made $3million last year. If they'd just invest HALF of that in an account that makes 5% interest per year (that shouldn't be hard too find, even in this economy!)...they'd have an income of $75K per year without ever touching the principal. Each 1% more interest they earn on it adds $15K to their income.

Yes, a family of 10 CAN live on $75K per year--a fairly good middle class life.

Yeah...if they'd manage their money well they don't *need* to work another day in their lives. But, oh, "middle class" is not good enough for the Gosselins, is it?

Dog Kitchen said...

Some thoughts:

I have found the entire spectacle, from the beginning, of these parents willingly and gladly displaying their own children on national television APPALLING!

These two uneducated, un-savvy, uninteresting, limited, greedy people chose for years to allow the most intimate, tender, and/or embarassing moments in their children's lives to be broadcast to the world, packaged & sold, x 8!

That said, I believe that Jon -- not defending his stupidity, immaturity, or greed -- but I believe that Jon is/was an Abused Spouse. Not that he was an angel-- but in comparison to that abusive harpy he married, well, OMG. But an abused spouse nonetheless. (We only have to imagine the uproar if the genders had been reversed. Many, many more people would have been able to see it as Spousal Abuse -- emotional, physical, everything -- and the plug would've already been pulled-- and who knows, perhaps even incarceration or restraining orders would've already been issued.)

But no, it was the woman doing the abusing, for which, inexplicably, society has more tolerance. Something about the "men-can't-do-anything-right" [eye-roll] mentality that Kate lives & breathes and that so many women seem to share (though I do NOT).

So here is Jon -- immature, selfish, limited, and uneducated -- (yet not a bad person...I believe he loves his children, did most of the work of caring for them & raising them, and actually has a bond with them that they seem to reciprocate), yet here he is, abused and henpecked to within an inch of his life, having stayed in this marriage whether from that inertia and low-self-esteem that comes from being "beaten down" for years, and/or by contract with TLC, etc., suddenly sprung and FREE from the constant abuse!

And what does he do? Well, he goes rather nuts. The designer T-shirts, tats, earrings, motorcylces, babes, smoking-- all the bad & stupid vices-- all symptoms of this over-the-top excess all come out in reckless and un-self-conscious abandon.

Consider the pathetic description he's given of his (inappropriate and too soon!) relationship with Hailey. He says that (paraphrasing) "she listens" to him, and that she "let's him be who he is." Now, as ridiculous as it looks for this pugdy father of 8 to dandle around with a 22 year old, to him, she's the anti-Kate, and that's Hailey's most appealing feature. And while the very LAST thing he needs right now is to even consider jumping into another relationship with anyone, it's understandable that a man who's starving & thirsting for a little attention, tenderness, and acceptance might find it in the arms of a green 22 year old. Again, not defending and (trying) not to judge. I just think it's SAD. This too, I believe, follows a predictable pattern of the abused spouse suddenly free. They tend to go overboard in all areas, and often jump into the arms of anyone who seems willing, safe, and kind.

[And this is not even to address the many possible levels of duplicity that may be at play here by TLC, Kate, etc. to "make Kate look like the victim by making sure that Jon looks bad" that we may never know about.]

If there's any hope for these children, it's that their father burns off this stupid adolescent fever in a hurry and finds some "new normal" for himself and gets down to raising them out of the public eye, out of that Mansion McPrison, into some good family counseling, and off the TV.

Annie said...

Wow, pretty powerful letters. Jon and Kate should've just hung it up when they announced the divorce. To prolong the trainwreck serves no purpose at all. Do they have no dignity?

Bella said...

Good grief so much of this crap is fake. Not the whole cops thing, but just how fake their marriage and all that was. Yesterday I caught a 2 sec. clip of an old episode where jon stays home more or gets home early or whatever and kate is all "giddy" by the door they kiss and I saw jon roll his eyes as he walked past her after. I backed my tivo up twice and he's definitely got that "jesus ok, let's play this game now". So with the camera RIGHT THERE maybe that's when he knew kate would put on her "show" and he would have to play along after coming home from work.

Really makes me wonder how fake their affection/interaction was. Like others said I bet serious $$ by the time TLC rolled in these two were already having major problems and the show kept them "together" longer but in the end just helped destroy everything. I also wonder how long jon was sleeping in the basement in e-town. I'm thinking it was proabably not long after they moved in.

These two are both low-life dolts but for real. I think jon was just a slacker (there are lots of them out there) and really only wanted the twins, let alone one more. Kate pushed for a 3rd when he wasn't even on board with that..let alone 6. I bet after that the resentment just grew and grew and we see what we have now.

Laura said...

This morning...

"Kate had the police come and carry her luggage and walk her to her black Toyota SUV, which was approximately 40 steps from the front hotel door."

"Four police cars showed up and shined lights in every car in the parking lot to make sure no paps were in, and the few cars that did have paps were kicked out of the lot before Kate came out."


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Wow! Police in Pennsylvania have nothing to do except catering to this rich woman. Carrying her luggage? They like to suck up to a D list celebrity.

It is totally legal paps take some pictures. Police needs to serve the community not a rich woman who brings all these to herself.

goawayfools said...

I do believe that TLC does not have the children's best interest at heart, that it's all about the ratings and money for them. Too bad those kids don't have loving parents to run interference for them. Jon and Kate are just as guilty as TLC, maybe more so. For them to cry that the show is a financial necessity demonstrates that their priorities are all wrong and that they simply had more children than they could afford. Remember when j and k discussed how upset they were for the twins upon learning that they were pregnant with a litter? They worried that the twins' lives would be ruined. Where is that concern for the twins now? Have they ever expressed similar concerns for the tups or have they always viewed them as valuable cattle?

You're Gonna Put An Eye Out said...

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/08/exclusive-kate-gosselin-leaves-hotel-police-escort-after-battle-jon

This is NOT NORMAL Kate. You are going to get yourself or one of your kids killed.

STOP THE INSANITY.

NT said...

TMZ is stating that it was Kate that called the cops and they were only there for about 10 minutes. They told them both to chill out and then Kate left. If the P people are always at the gate,why are there no pics of this happening? I'm so tired of their lies and schemes to create ratings and money. I'm glad I don't watch anymore.

Jacsamic said...

Sure hope this helps....I have stayed away for awhile because this situation seems so out of control....Kate Irene just keeps on and on and on...her temper will be her undoing...I just pray the children are being sheltered from as much of this as possible...

And, Jon, well, good grief. I know he is a supposed grown man, I agree he was heinously verbally abused by Katie Irene, I know he is now free of her and can do what he wants...but, do it privately for goodness sake.

Eight sweet childrens' lives are being forever impacted here...so very, very sad.

CJ said...

I think people should give Jon a break for acting foolish. After 10 years being abused and controlled by Kate, the man could have some mental illness.

He is extremely angry with Kate. He gave up his youth for Kate and totally lived a lifestyle Kate chose for them. He was 22 and Kate was 24 when they got married. He was the dumb younger man and Kate was the calculating older woman who wanted someone she could control. She took advantage of Jon's personality.

After all the obeying and being a good boy, what did Jon get? Kate ditched him because she met Steve. It was never Jon's decision to get married so young. It wasn't him who wanted more children after the twins. Kate forced everything on him. She gave him hell when he didn't obey. He did everything she wanted just to have peace and harmony with his wife. Then she ditched him.

How would that make you feel if you were used and dumped? And everything was not your idea (everything was forced on you) but you had to deal with the aftermath and got yelled at? I would feel like a complete fool. Jon's rage makes him want to humiliate her. Can you blame him? Seriously! Would you do better than Jon? Most women would go berserk and totally trash the spouse in public. Jon only did things to irritate Kate, he never trashed her. Compare to what some scorned women would do, Jon is way too mellow.

You give someone 10 years of your life and you get dumped. No wonder Jon doesn't care anymore. He was not rewarded and respected for being a good boy/husband. And don't even bother to say he should put the kids first. Because Kate clearly doesn't do that. Kate puts what she wants first - her affair, her book tour (romance getaway with Steve),plastic surgery, seeking attention. She is not home. No one can use that "kids first" phrase to control Jon and make him stay home like a slave boy.

Jon knows, we know. If Jon stayed home everyday because he had to follow the "kids first" rule, Kate would never come home. She would just leave kids to Jon and go after Steve. She would enjoy her life like a single rich woman and Jon would still get yelled at. Why shouldn't Jon go out and leave kids to Kate 3 days a week?

This time, Jon doesn't allow Kate using kids to control him. He knows Kate is just using the kids. She talks the talk "Jon, kids first." but she doesn't walk the walk.

Odoacer said...

MyLittleCat said: "I bet these kids are worse off than we think."

We've all thought that the kids had it rough before, but I think MyLittleCat has it right, given this most recent conflict.

The level of conflict for the children has just gone up. And who doesn't think this type of thing will happen again?

This type of thing is so terrible for the children. These greedy parents, who claim they do everything for their children, cannot even act like adults. They have no idea what they are doing to their children.

If you care about these kids and never said a prayer for them before, please say one now.

icare said...

Thank GOODNESS!!!!

marypoppins said...

I wonder how many friends will still be around when this money train stops.

Gosselin Kids all the way! said...

There is a letter that the abusewatch.net site sent to Governor Arnold and Maria Shriver to take Kate off from the guest speaker list.

http://abusewatch.net/Womens%20Conference%20Open%20Letter%20081309.pdf

The list of advertisers to boycott is a link to facebook. Hope it works!

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/topic.php?uid=114109299026&topic=9139

Hope some action comes from that! Since it's escalated to the cops being called, I feel so bad for those kids to be stuck in the middle of it all.

I just want someone to step in and be an adult and take care of these kids and put their needs first.

marypoppins said...

Odoacer said...
MyLittleCat said: "I bet these kids are worse off than we think."

We've all thought that the kids had it rough before, but I think MyLittleCat has it right, given this most recent conflict.

The level of conflict for the children has just gone up. And who doesn't think this type of thing will happen again?

This type of thing is so terrible for the children. These greedy parents, who claim they do everything for their children, cannot even act like adults. They have no idea what they are doing to their children.

If you care about these kids and never said a prayer for them before, please say one now.
________________________________
Who knows what has been going on behind close doors all these years.
The children must be soo frightened.

I suspect we are seeing the true relationship bet these two.

Who called the police?

-Jon because Kate was breaking a contract of not being there when he is

-Kate when he would not let her in

-Was Kate summoned there becusae the kids called her and asked her to come - If so why?

- Was it a nanny, neighbour?

cjmiller53 said...

i think that this latest incident betwen J & K and the cops was all orchestrated by Kate and her PR crew to keep her in People and the other media that are playing her off as the "wronged wife". Her PR people want to keep her looking like she is the loving , caring Mom that only wants to be home with her kids. But big, bad Jon has forced her to have to go to a motel and cry because she is worried about who is caring for the kids. It's BS but you know that she will probably be on the cover of People next week again lamenting about how did this happen to her! What's next Kate? Are you going to try and spin the story that you thought about suicide but you are so strong that you thought of the kids and that saved you? I'm not saying that I want to see that happen but I wouldn't put it past Kate saying it if it kept her on the AM shows and People magazine.

Momof2 said...

Driving 95 miles an hour without headlights??

This woman is beyond stupid.....

I hope the residents in PA are outraged....now Kate's dumb antics are endangering not only her children but other residents/motorists as well!

productplacementkate said...

Product Placement Kate is up to her usual antics, creating drama for tv coverage, this scene paid for by Days Inn, Nestle water, etc. Kids don't matter, sponsors do.

Beach Lover said...

Well done!!!! I have already boycotted TLC and any of the sponsored items I've heard about. Now I will join in with the boycott of the sponsors brought to my attention by this wonderful organization.

Sima said...

So glad I stopped watching this train wreck of a show. Kate has to be the most obnoxious woman on TV. I hope this show ends soon. Someone has to be looking out for these kids. TLC obviously doesn't give a damn. Maybe in their twisted thinking ways they hope the added drama between the parents will increase the ratings.

I have to agree with Mom of 5 that John is an abused spouse. Kate is definately the dominant spouse in the relationship. It was quite painful to watch John being degraded and put down by her all the time. John is very passive person. She knows that and takes advantage of it. Whats so bad is that this is on TV for all to see. Most abusers are careful to hide the abuse from others. That way they can never be accused of any wrongdoing because they seem so normal to others. She just cant control herself with John, she has no respect for him.

Anonymous said...

Kate was the one who called the cops because Jon wouldn't let her in. He was in the right. She had no recourse.

See TMZ for Jon's statement.

As for all the bashing of Jon and stating he is uneducated...Jon is not the uneducated one in this coupling. He has an excellent vocabulary which often had to be explained to Kate. He knows how to fix things, to play with kids not just feed and clothe them, and he's been bullied a long time. It's one thing to marry someone who is stronger than you but it's another to be expected to take abuse when the power goes to the person's head.

Kate is a perfect example of the phrase "Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely." That's exactly what she does to Jon. She's out of her mind.

I would really like to see people acknowledge that Jon is an abused spouse and stop beating down on him. We wouldn't do this to a woman. This blog is becoming unbearable due to the dumping on Jon.

He is a young father who is finding out who he is in his 30's, since his 20's were lost to serious responsibility and abuse. Give him a break.

XYZed said...

One word . . . Hallelujah!

Melissa said...

It's official. TLC has officially, in my mind gone from The Learning Channel to The Ludicrous Channel. I lump them into the same category as I would the trashy National Enquirer. It would take a LOT for them to raise their standards in my book. Jon and Kate's story is of course so sad for the children, but it has totally reached "trash" status. Wonder if we will see the police visit on an upcoming show. They could lump it together with a bathroom remodel.

Just Keepin' It Real, Dawg said...

Maybe I'm naive...but it's interviews like this that make me think Jon is the "most real" of the bunch.

No drama, no embellishment, just the facts in a calm, cool manner. Way to keep it under control Jon.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/08/new-video-interview-jon-gosselin-explains-why-he-wouldn%E2%80%99t-let-kate-house

Katie said...

V said (08/13/09 10:38):
Let me tell you, Kate, the public hates you as much as they hate Jon. You guys deserve each other. Birds with the same feather flock together. You are not any better than Jon. You guys are the same and no wonder both of you married each other years ago.

It's not Jon's fault. It's your fault. It's your grand scheme. Jon is just an idiot.
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You hit the nail on the head. Kate is a greedy, conniving b---h. She screwed everyone she knew in her quest for money and fame -- including her husband. She will be getting just what she deserves if this show ends -- and I hope it does.

Check Your Moral Compass said...

From this article: http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20297960,00.html

Tears are something Kate is getting used to: In this week's PEOPLE the now single mother says, "I cry all the time, in numerous airports, in airplanes."

She'd rather not have her emotional life be so public, but she says, "It's not like I can put the tears on hold. So I try to cry very incognito, behind my sunglasses. And after those tears, there's always the feeling of, 'how did I get here?' "

>>>>>Well Kate, let me explain "how you got there". You sold out your kids, berated your husband, isolated your friends and family and then tried to play the "I do it all for my kids" martyr card.

You must think that your family are simply characters in a sordid story that you can control. Somehow you think that you can start a new chapter and ignore the damage that you have done.

The kind of emotional damage you have done to the people in your life, and most of all your kids, can be compared to hammering nails into a board. Every time you blasted Jon, every time you exposed the children's private moments, every time you feigned drama for the sake of good tv, every time you put a wedge between someone who cared about your family was like hammering a nail into a board. You have just been hammering nail after nail into the hearts of the people around you thinking that justifying your actions with excuses like "moving forward" or "the show must go on" or "we have different goals". Well Kate, you can try to pull out the nails, but you can't make the holes go away. The damage you've done is permanent.

Mandy said...

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=79465742-1e57-43d0-a291-3fe54ac29836

--or if that link is too long:
http://tinyurl.com/jonontmz

Jon said they have a full time nanny ALWAYS there plus a alternating babysitters.. Oh really, Kate, you'll NEVER have a nanny?? Sounded like he was calling her "Judy" then stopped realizing he shouldn't say her name.

Tina said...

I cried today reading this. I am so thrilled that a national campaign is underway for the removal of this show. I just pray that it will only be the beginning in removing children from all so-called reality shows, unless of course they are paid child actors protected by laws. Thank you GWOP moderators for your hard work and thank you to fellow bloggers who have passionately taken up this cause. God Bless.

M. said...

Jon and Kate were caught fighting and the police were called. Yeah, these are two really dedicated parents (sarcasm). This trainwreck needs to stop. Kudos to childabuse.net for their efforts.

http://dlisted.com/node/33414 (site can be a tad vulgar)

Tammy Renee said...

Driving 95 miles an hour without headlights??

This woman is beyond stupid.....

I hope the residents in PA are outraged....now Kate's dumb antics are endangering not only her children but other residents/motorists as well!

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Where were the cops then? She should have been arrested and had her license taken away. How dare she drive on public highways and drive like a lunatic. Do what you will with your life Katie Irene but don't you dare endanger defenselss other motorists.

PA officials should investigate and charge her. Unbelievable.

New episode said...

Melissa: "They could lump it (police visit on a show)together with a bathroom remodel." LMAO That is so funny. "On this episode of Jon & Kate + 8 : Police & Potties". LOL

Toni M said...

I love it. For 10 years Kate has condescendingly bossed Jon around 24/7. Everything had to be her way all the time. And now it's payback time. Go for it, Jon.

Can you imagine how angry Kate must have been that Jon had the nerve to defy her and lock her out of what she considers HER house? I would have loved to have seen that. Finally someone tells Kate NO. So angry was she that she called 911! What emergency warrented a call to 911? What was Kate planning to do inside the house anyway? Scream and yell at the babysitter and physically force her out? Oh yes, that would have been productive and great for the children to witness. But then Kate doesn't give a rat's butt about those kids. Me, me, me. That is her agenda. A very flawed and insufferable woman.

Why TLC wants to air a show about her -- and the show IS about Kate now -- is beyond me. I can't wait for the show to be cancelled. Kate needs a big dose of reality right smack in the face so she gets the message that she is NOT someone special. Because she isn't.

Lower Heidelberg Neighbor said...

Once again...twisty windy horse and buggy roads they live on....and people are stopped...STOPPED in front of the house to take pics...like its a parking lot!!!! People are parking their cars precariously along a very very tiny shoulder and hiking up to the house. If you are reading this and are thinking about doing this....DON't It is too dangerous.

Our poor police don't deserve this...

jonandkatewho? said...

I just read the most rude, horrible comment about the kids on dlisted. I'm sure it would not be allowed here, and I wouldn't feel right typing it even if it were allowed.

Those parents have got to take the kids out of the limelight as soon as they can. I can't even imagine reading something like that about my kids and then continuing to expose them in any way.

They just have to stop this. It never should have gone as far as it has. I don't think they read every single thing printed about the family online, but if one of those kids happened upon that comment, it would be extremely hurtful and damaging.

Some of us have discussed the kids in terms of their behaviors and lack of acting skills, but let me assure you this is not that kind of a comment. It is a mean and deliberately nasty comment.

Maybe Jon and Kate NEED to see it. I almost hope they do. Maybe it would wake them up.

Sima said...

I have to say Jon seems to be growing a pair. For him to refuse her entry into the house. Never saw that coming. Good for him though. He is not perfect but who is? We all have our faults. He is trying to find who he is. He missed out on just being a guy and doing guy things. He still loves his children, and is more genuine than Kate. Like someone mentioned previously Jon is more "real." I agree.

What's with the protesters? Can anyone provide a bit more information? Are people hanging outside her house with signs or something?

abused said...

Jon has every right not to let Kate in the house.

It's not just the custody agreement and who gets what days of the week. Jon was abused by Kate. He can't function when Kate is screaming and yelling nearby. She has to be out of his sight so he can relax and do things like a normal human being. Did you see how nervous Jon was when Kate was around after their announce of divorce? He could have nervous breakdown.

Verbal and emotional abuse are serious matters. They can really mess your head. These forms of abuse are often ignored because there's no physical scar. Some people don't think it's a big deal. I suspect they never experienced it and I am happy for them. I was verbal and emotional abused by my parents as a kid. Until today, whenever my parent calls me, I start to sweat, shake, get agitated. My mom just calls me to ask about how to do this or that. It still makes me so nervous and I can't control it. It's just a phone call, she can't touch me and I can hang up if she is not friendly. But the painful past memory is so strong, you are scared you are going down.

If Jon wants to sue Kate spouse abuse, he could win. And he should.

Charlie Rose said...

Don't think for one minute that Kate is thinking about payback time when it is her turn to have the kids. She will probably change the locks, the gate key code and everything else she can possibly think of and then SCREAM child abuse to the cops or anyone within listening distance. She isn't about to let this drop.

Andrea Murdock said...

Maybe Jon and Kate NEED to see it. I almost hope they do. Maybe it would wake them up.



Unfortunately, nothing will pull either one of them from the limelight. They love it to much and thrive on it.

Poor kids.

Tina said...

Kate bullied Jon into marrying her when Jon was straight out of school.

Jon was a naive kid from a wealthy family, his dad was a dentist with a very successful practice and his mom worked too. Kate saw that as an upgrade from her blue collar boyfriend doing manual labor. What an opportunity, a naive rich boy with a gentle personality.

During the first few years of marriage while Jon's dad was still alive, the loving dad gave Jon a lot of financial support to start up his family life. That's exactly what Kate was after and she got it.

Jon was soooooo used. She is lucky Jon doesn't have a mean bone in his body.

Nutterbugsmom said...

Jon is such a good dad to not let Kate on the property. Nobody should let Kate on that property! This is just a thought, but considering Jon seems to be the rational parent here, perhaps he sees Hailey as more fit of a parent than Kate? After all, Hailey came from an affluent family with a surgeon as a dad -- she must have some decent upbringing and resources to really help those kids. I also think this divorce is going Jon good. I've always though he was cute, but dayum (if I do say so myself), he's all man now. Go, Hailey!

Sasha222 said...

Wow that was eloquently put and I hope it has some affect. But the fact that nothing has been done so far makes me question how many people might, in fact, be benefiting from this money train. You would think by now that news outlets like the Today show or 60 minutes would have done a major piece on he abuse of these children and yet everyone is still patting little Katie on the back. Even Regis Philman took some heat for saying something that wasn't even remotely rude and everyone was up in arms as if he had slapped her across the face. I don't know what it will take to get people to open their eyes about these parents but I really hope it doesn't take something bad happening.


And although I used to feel bad for Jon and was on his side for a little while (I mean who could blame him for cheating on that woman?) his recent actions have caused me to lose any ounce of respect I might have had for him. That picture of him at the college party recently just made me want to puke. I remember the weird creepy 30 year old being at our young parties and there is something weird about a grown man (with 8 young kids especially) wanting to party with college kids.

Jon the Man said...

Nutterbugs Mom: It's funny. I too think Jon is cuter now. Esp. in the TMZ video talking to the paparazzi. He seems honest to me when he answers all the questions. He looks very different, happier. He looked like such a wuss around Kate. Esp. wearing those dorky little sweater vests. She beat him down. I'm glad he is in control now!!

Ohio Buckeye said...

Dog Kitchen: I AGREE that Kate is absolutely verbally & emotionally abusive. I also concur that there is a dbl. std. about abuse - thankfully, most people are now a little more enlightened about the problem of male against female spousal abuse - I'm glad.

But WHY do we women tend to be more accepting when we see our own gender being abusive? Abuse is equally unacceptable by/against either gender.

Ditto with female teachers hitting on young male students - how often do we hear both genders say that this situation is 'every teen boy's dream'? If a male teacher hit on young female students, we'd GET it, but when the genders are flip flopped in this situation, WHY do some feel it somehow less heinous? Again: abuse is NEVER ok. Not ever.

Re: the whole police to the residence thing: could Jon & Kate BE more noveau riche and white trash? Those poor kids - Kate always claims SHE's so 'stressed' - can you even imagine with the 8 kids must be contending with these days?

And, finally, whatever happened to all that rhetoric from J&K about how they 'will always pull together for the kids'??! Just another TLC scripted PR talking point - all fluff, no substance.

Hippie Chick said...

This may just be the kick the butt TLC needs to stop airing this show. Fingers crossed!

GRY said...

Discovery Communications has managed to damage their brand and their hard earned reputation. Such damage will last a long, long time. Through their association with TLC and this train wreck they're going to pay a heavy price in terms of viewership.
People don't soon forget the corporate types and the corporations who openly support the exploitation of children.
For me TLC has been channel blocked and soon Discovery Channel as well.
I won't be returning to viewing anything from Discovery communications.
Yes, the chairman, through his lack of a reply to the open letter has given the proverbial finger to the public.
He figures there are more rubbernecks and ambulance chasers/gawkers who will tune in then their are outraged former viewers.

This will be only a short term spike as these newcomers are not at all loyal to the brand and will disappear as soon as the J&K freak show is off the pages of the tabloids.

Both J&K are losers(I am sorry to say I gave Jon the benefit of the doubt when he doesn't deserve it) and they're showing their true colors now that the fight is on.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/08/14/jon.kate.argument/index.html

I hope they fire the execs who are a party to continuing this greek tragedy. Hitting TLC/Discovery in the wallet is the only way to get the message across, I wouldn't count on any compassion or humanity from corporate bloodsuckers.

C'villeGa mom said...

I am so called to hear this! I have written everyone I could think of, and I was beginning to think it was not doing any good. At least I have hope that this show will be canceled, and possibly these children can have a normal life at some point. I have been determined in my efforts, not watching the show,
and trying not to buy the products advertised, along with writing tv shows, sponsers, TLC, etc. If I lived anywhere near PA, I would be there with my protest sign!

Jon is no hero said...

Wow, Jon sure seems to be the hero today..yes he was treated poorly by Kate but he is no different than he was yesterday. He is still an adult with 8 kids to raise who has chosen to continue exploiting his kids and reaping the benefits their labor has brought him and Kate. I don't agree with those who feel he is the naive, misled spouse who deserves to act out like a rebelling teenager. He is STILL legally married and he has chosen to make a public spectacle of himself with an assortment of embarrassing interludes with various young girls. I do not think he deserves such praise for turning Kate away from the gate when the kids are the ones that are going to suffer even more humiliation because of the self absorbed, childish antics of their parents.

ColorMeConfused said...

Just read the story about the police being called.

I'm sorry but - HAHAHAHA!!!

mimi said...

In the Radar video Jon states that there is a full time nanny and a babysitter is needed when he is "filmimg" Looks like he films all his interviews there on the "kids time".

Then he went on to say that you need a babysitter when filming, because A, you need it to be quiet to film, and B, who is watching the kids? Yes who is. This is a totally sad state of affairs and someone has finally stepped in to help these kids, at least I hope so. The sooner the better.

jonandkatewho? said...

Much as Jon disgusts me with some of his actions, I have to admit he seemed believable on the video where he answered questions about the cops being called.

You know my guess would be Kate went there and started screaming about the whore he had babysitting and probably called her even worse, and Jon probably just said "no". She wanted in and he said "no". She cried and threw a fit and called the cops. He really could not have done anything differently, could he? He has no power to keep her from coming there to start trouble unless he gets a restraining order, and right now maybe he's thinking about it, but I'm sure he didn't know Kate was coming.

Jon can be criticized for many things, but I don't think this is one of them. I think Kate started this. I can't figure out whether it was for publicity for Monday's ratings or not, but I think she started the whole thing. Jon is a gentle type of person and he probably would never lay a hand on a woman in a violent way.

You will notice he did not slam Kate in that interview either, nor did he slam her when his own interview was canceled last Monday. He has not been badmouthing her to the press.

Kate could actually take a page from Jon's book in this regard. I think Jon wants things peaceful between them for co-parenting purposes.

Now if he would just pull his head out and realize his kids need to stop being on tv.

Dell said...

Get kids off reality TV said...
So when do they go after "Toddlers and Tiara" for glamorizing child abuse? Because that is all that show does.

8/14/2009 7:32 AM
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Boy, isn't THAT the truth! I watched a few minutes of that and it turned my stomach. How can those idiot parents sexualize their little girls that way. How disgusting! And, of course, TLC is there to bring it to our homes.

TUNDRA said...

Don't forget, Jon knows Kate better than anyone. If she was having a meltdown I don't think he would want her anywhere near the house for the sake of the kids. And really, I honestly don't think he should give Kate an inch when it comes to revising any existing parent/child care agreement without consulting his attorney first. The last thing those children need is more trauma witnessing/hearing their parents fight. Kate blew it.

Sissy said...

goawayfools said...
I do believe that TLC does not have the children's best interest at heart, that it's all about the ratings and money for them. Too bad those kids don't have loving parents to run interference for them. Jon and Kate are just as guilty as TLC, maybe more so. For them to cry that the show is a financial necessity demonstrates that their priorities are all wrong and that they simply had more children than they could afford. Remember when j and k discussed how upset they were for the twins upon learning that they were pregnant with a litter? They worried that the twins' lives would be ruined. Where is that concern for the twins now? Have they ever expressed similar concerns for the tups or have they always viewed them as valuable cattle?

8/14/2009 9:01 AM

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The TLC big wig, that woman, said "It is hard to walk away from high numbers."

I can't remember her name, but I do remember her comment. She admitted it! High numbers is what she is all about.

The kids? Preserving a family? Privacy? Respect? Heck no! High numbers is what she is after.

That woman is a PIG! She and J&K need to be hung out to dry together.

AbusedHusbandsNeedHelp said...

Anonymous said...

I would really like to see people acknowledge that Jon is an abused spouse and stop beating down on him. We wouldn't do this to a woman. This blog is becoming unbearable due to the dumping on Jon.

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I agree! I posted the same thing a while back. I have worked in the field, and abused husbands get no help from anyone. Shockingly, they often get laughed at if they ask for help or call a hotline.

Give Jon a break -- he's not getting drunk out of Starbucks cups in front of the kids, and his behavior is at least out in the open.

Kate's sneakiness (trips with her body "guard") smells like danger to me. My biggest fear is that now Jon's standing up for himself, one of the kids is going to get seriously hurt.

AbusedHusbandsNeedHelp said...

Tiredof8 said...
JMO but all the publicity (including the police visit) is orchestrated. I still believe, to a certain extent, that this was planned by Jon and Kate to increase ratings for the show. It's just that Jon is enjoying himself a mite too much.
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Give the poor guy a break. He's in therapy (read that somewhere)and he's finally reclaimed his cajones. OF COURSE HE IS ENJOYING HIMSELF -- given his history with that $%^**^, he did a VERY brave thing and he's proud.

Connie said...

Anonymous said...

Kate was the one who called the cops because Jon wouldn't let her in. He was in the right. She had no recourse.

See TMZ for Jon's statement.

As for all the bashing of Jon and stating he is uneducated...Jon is not the uneducated one in this coupling. He has an excellent vocabulary which often had to be explained to Kate. He knows how to fix things, to play with kids not just feed and clothe them, and he's been bullied a long time. It's one thing to marry someone who is stronger than you but it's another to be expected to take abuse when the power goes to the person's head.

Kate is a perfect example of the phrase "Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely." That's exactly what she does to Jon. She's out of her mind.

I would really like to see people acknowledge that Jon is an abused spouse and stop beating down on him. We wouldn't do this to a woman. This blog is becoming unbearable due to the dumping on Jon.

He is a young father who is finding out who he is in his 30's, since his 20's were lost to serious responsibility and abuse. Give him a break.

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THANK YOU!! THANK YOU! I just posted a similar thought in another thread but you said it so much better! And it's worth repeating. Give Jon a break. The kids don't have a real mother and they will definitely need their father! Jon is their hope for some semblance of normalcy.

JennN said...

Not defending Kate but if Kate does not feel comfy with Stephanie Santoro watching her children then she has every right to go to the home to protect her kids and put a stop to that woman watching them.

Oh Brother said...

Tina said...

Kate bullied Jon into marrying her when Jon was straight out of school.

Jon was a naive kid from a wealthy family, his dad was a dentist with a very successful practice and his mom worked too. Kate saw that as an upgrade from her blue collar boyfriend doing manual labor. What an opportunity, a naive rich boy with a gentle personality.

During the first few years of marriage while Jon's dad was still alive, the loving dad gave Jon a lot of financial support to start up his family life. That's exactly what Kate was after and she got it.

Jon was soooooo used. She is lucky Jon doesn't have a mean bone in his body.

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Huh? Jon didn't go to college, so are you suggesting he graduated from high school at age 21 or 22? Please -- nobody "bullies" someone into marrying them. He made his choice. People act as if the guy is mentally challenged.

called said...

JennN, I disagree. Here's why.

There is ample evidence, due to the years this show has been on tv, that Jon is rational, level headed, supportive and genuinely loving and concerned about his children.

Jon is not the one that expelled family and friends; Kate did that. Jon was being supportive and unfortunately, being abused at the time.

There is absolutely nothing to indicate Jon is incapable of hiring qualified childcare. If anything, I would trust his choices more than Kate's.

Women like Kate have gotten away with this sort of unreasonable behaviour for too long throughout history. We women fight against abuse of a fellow female, yet many of those same women are unable to take a look at their own gender and apply the same sincere effort at viewing the situation fairly.

Jon is not getting a fair shake and it's upsetting me as much as what the children have gone through.

As to him sleeping with the babysitter...nowhere has that been in print in legitimate news and it has not been verified. She was probably sleeping in Jon's room while he stayed in the house with the kids. Why does no one think of that?

Connie said...

called said....

Jon is not getting a fair shake and it's upsetting me as much as what the children have gone through.

As to him sleeping with the babysitter...nowhere has that been in print in legitimate news and it has not been verified. She was probably sleeping in Jon's room while he stayed in the house with the kids. Why does no one think of that?

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I totally agree! The line between fact, fiction and fantasy has become very blurred. I think it's time to take a step back and remember what we really "know" as fact.

Tyra said...

Just because a woman works in a bar she's incapable of babysitting? Come on people...get off your high-horses!

Ohio Buckeye said...

If we are to believe anything TLC has shown us about these two, it's most likely true that Katie Irene has had The Rule of The Roost her entire stint with Jon. And the woman rules with an iron fist.

Considering this, I can't imagine WHY Jon & K8 and their respective lawyers EVER thought ANY kind of joint custody would work with these two. J&K are absolutely the poster children for complete inability to respectfully negotiate & compromise with each other.

K8 dominated every single thing in their married life, down to the most inane detail - did anyone seriously think this control freak would change her ways once the divorce gavel drops?

So, now she wants to control Jon's time with the kids - well, sweetheart, unless he's doing something detrimental to the kids, better just get used to his FINALLY getting to do a few things with his kids and in life in general HIS way.

And divorce means that he no longer has to care if you, Katie Irene, like it or not. That is one of the few consolations of divorce.

And, don't look now, Katie Irene, but I'm guessing that whenever you have vacated the manse, Jon probably keeps his shoes on (gasp!) while in that mansion that is YOURS ALL YOURS. Wouldn't surprise me if he did this just because now he CAN.

K8 has shown absolutely zero grace in any situation - we have only seen the tip of the iceberg with how their divorce agreement is going to play out long term, DESPITE all their bragging about how they 'will always come together for the kids'. Yeah, sure you will. And violating the visitation agreement before the divorce is even final, with the coup de gras of calling the police to the kids' residence really measures up to all your self righteous 'for the kids' rhetoric.

It's not been pretty up to this point, even when they were pretending to be a loving married couple. Can we be at all surprised that their divorce will be one for the books, and not at all in a good way?

Rap541 said...

Not defending Kate but if Kate does not feel comfy with Stephanie Santoro watching her children then she has every right to go to the home to protect her kids and put a stop to that woman watching them.



I'm not disagreeing with you, because I don't know anything about child custody - but what legal right does she have to disagree with her husband's choice of babysitter during his time with the kids?

I mean, it seems like a pretty obvious way for Kate to be obstructive. "No, not that one - I am coming over for your time - what? You have a new one? No, she's bad too, so let me in during your custody time" - Unless the babysitter has a record - I am pretty certain that a babysitter being kinda young, pretty, etc doesn't constitute a reason for Kate to violate Jon's custody time.

Almost a teen said...

Very early in the filming, when Kate showed the video of when they met and got engaged, I remember Jon saying that he was 20 when they met and Kate was 22. They got married a year and a half later when he just turned 22 and Kate 24.
So yes, he was barely out of HS when she first put her eye on him at a picnic. He was immature to begin with, so he probably acted 18

Janine said...

Jon is not using great judgement and seems to be satisfied that K8 is imploading all overherself... but the KIDS are watching.
I have thought from the first of Jon's indiscretions that he was being dileberate... He does NOT want to be in this public nightmare, he meekly said so on the couch next to K8, where she said NO ONE would stop her... His new found independence (and for that I'm happy) has given him the courage to stand up to her... these kids need for this whole mess to stop. K8 is delusional and acting desperate... K8, this last weeks N.Y. trip was self serving, as usual and if I were going through a divorce and had 8 babies, I would not leave the area. I get joint custody... and you take turns, but that should not include these passive AGGRESSIVE publicity stunts. You need to know how ignorant you appear, how selfish, how hateful... what about THESE memories your making? These ARE the ONLY memories your kids will think about... A big, spacious, fancy house, new clothes, hair and makeup, cars and trips do not equate PEACE and HOPE and LOVE... These kids are being abused and neglected in front of the WORLD. Stop using these children in your own crazy dream... give them their life. Take the rings off (they KNOW). Every time you march them past the P people into the market, they see... INSANE.

Anne said...

Not defending Kate but if Kate does not feel comfy with Stephanie Santoro watching her children then she has every right to go to the home to protect her kids and put a stop to that woman watching them.
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Actually she legally doesn't. As someone who has seen several friends divorce you have no rights to who your children are exposed to when they are with your former spouse.

The only time you do have a right to control that is if you have legitimate concerns for the welfare and safety of your children and are able to get a court order.

Other than that, your former spouse has no control over who you choose to bring in to your children's lives when they're with you and the same goes vice versa.

That's the thing about divorce and children. People don't realize exactly how much control they are giving up when they divorce.

Anne said...

I hope this is a good suggestion. I printed out the two letters by Child Abuse Watch and I am sending them to The Women's Conference in Long Beach in which Kate will be speaking. Maria Shriver should know Kate doesn't belong with her quality guest speakers.
First Lady Maria Shriver
State Capitol Building
Sacramento, CA 95814
or
Fax to:
(916) 558 - 3160

They invited a NUT said...

Anne,thank you. I was just thinking about sending the childabuse.net letters to the Calif. Womans Conference and Maria Shriver to let her see first hand who Kate is and what she's dealing with. Too bad we can't send the article when she was driving 95 mph
without headlights, to get the Paps off her tail. Irresponsible and dangerous behavior by a supposed 'mom and author'
who is irrational as well, and let Maria make up her mind.

Janine said...

I can't believe K8 is speaking at this very special womens conference. Oprah speaks at this conference... Oh yeah... K8 and Oprah are like this !! I will fax the same info... I bet the roster will change... but I can't believe they have not quietly asked K8 to step aside....
This is agony... really. The kids in those photos are always unhappy. Used to be Mady (Baby Jane) and now it's most of them. I think I worry most for Cara... well, all of them.. It's so sad. Maybe by NEXT week, it will be finished. I have to believe this outcry will be heard.

Sasha222 said...

Plain and simple I have a feeling that this whole police thing is just another ploy for attention and a ratings boost. I doubt it's a coincidence that literally 2 days after it was all over the media that the show ratings were dropping that something brings these two monsters back in the spot light again. As much as Kate says she hates the tabloids she is addicted to gracing their covers. Just like many other celebrities who actually secretly call the paparazzi when they are going to be out and about so their picture will be taken, Kate brings this attention upon herself. Wouldn't be surprised if her and Jon were completely in on it together and planned the entire thing.

Laura D. said...

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20298031,00.html

Anyone see this garbage??? More reason to boycott anything that has to do with this sick, sad trainwreck... I'm glad to say I've not watched the show since their fake wedding vow renewal. When I realized that they were buying a MANSION, it made me physically ill. Then I KNEW they were using those poor children to squeeze as much money as they could out of them... I applaud the OP...finally, others are starting to realize how damaged those children will be if this continues.

Denise said...

Kate's importance at the Woman's conference seems to have been downgraded:

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and views with us. We are thrilled that The Women’s Conference brings together such a passionate, engaged and diverse group of woman every year. With that comes many different viewpoints and perspectives and we celebrate that. Our speaker line-up this year once again reflects many different lives and experiences and we are proud to provide a platform for women from all walks of life to become Architects of Change.

There has been some confusion regarding Kate Gosselin's participation at this year's Conference. At Night at the Village on October 26th, Ms. Gosselin will be interviewed, along with other authors, and then will sign books. She will not be speaking on the main stage at The Women's Conference on October 27th.

Thank you for your interest in The Women's Conference.

. said...

"nobody "bullies" someone into marrying them. He made his choice. People act as if the guy is mentally challenged."

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I was bullied into marriage when I was 21. Some 22 years old are still kids. If their families shelter them, they have no clue about people's evil intention.

Tami said...

But no, it was the woman doing the abusing, for which, inexplicably, society has more tolerance. Something about the "men-can't-do-anything-right" [eye-roll] mentality that Kate lives & breathes and that so many women seem to share (though I do NOT).
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Every time there is an article online, hundreds write in comments that Kate needed to act like this because Jon never listens. Huh? So she needed to yell at him in TRU, yell at him about kids eating ice cream? Scream from across rooms, call him names, correct him, etc, when HE did all the care of the kids to begin with? What did she do but yell? They act as if she did all the hard work and needed his help. They justify abuse this way. Turn it around and say, 'Oh she deserved to be called names, berated because she was a bad housewife' and people would be freaking out.

Rach Here said...

General Mills - Total
Honda
Tyson Chicken
Revlon
AT&T Mobile
State Farm Insurance
Nintendo DS
Superpages.com
Almay
Coleman Camping Equipment
Ronzoni Pasta
Home Depot
Smirnoff
Verizon Wireless
Buick Enclave
Abreva
GoToMeeting.com
crooked housesNew Hair Institute
V-tech
Grains For Life (The Grain Foods Foundation)
Willow Street Pictures
The Gap
EmTanner
Dodge Sprinter
Juicy Juice (Nestle)
Johnson and Johnson
Red Robin Restaurants
ADT
Gymboree
Dutch Wonderland
Disney World
Crayola Factory
Bounce U
Hands On House
Strasburg Rail Road
Sesame Place
Gibraltar Restaurant
TLC
Discovery Channel
Animal Planet
Amazon.com
Figure 8 Films
Zondervan Publishers (A HarperCollins Company)
Radians Car Seats
Dura-Bib by DEX Products
Thirdpath Creative Group
Pur Water - P&G
Ads by Google
Media Motion International
Graco
Southwest Airlines
The Canyons Ski Resort
Oberymeyer
Giant Foods Stores
Woman's Day
Live with Regis and Kelly
JDNews.com
Star Magazine
Banana Republic
Grand Wailea Resort, Maui
Hasbro

a rose is a rose said...

Yes, I saw the new post from the Calif. Womans Conference. Kate has definetly been downgraded to just an author's status, since before they actually said that Kate had a story to tell and they were going to give her a platform. Keep up the good work GWOPers, maybe before the conference, they'll realize that Kate is NOT a match for the program at all.

LP said...

If K8 thought that this little trick would have people feeling more sorry for her it had just the oppositte effect. She has come off looking really, really bad this time and Jon has come off looking good with his "impromptu" chat with the papss.

The tide seems to be turning.

They deserve to know said...

I think someone ought to send the Calif. Woman's Conference Beth's article that explains how she (Beth) was the author of the book, its not KATE'S book alone at all.
I'm not sure how to do it.
If they see that, perhaps they'll see that it is not right to give Kate a platform for anything since she lied. She only TOLD the story to Beth, who actually wrote it.

Too many sponsors said...

RachHere, good job, Wow. I never realized that SO many sponsors were so willing to jump on the bandwagon. Now we all have to go to work.

CA said...

Tami

No one deserves to be abused..male or female..lets focus on the fact that both Kate and Jon are still continuing to exploit and profit from their children and alot of effort is being made to prevent them from continung

Zac said...

Just because a woman works in a bar she's incapable of babysitting? Come on people...get off your high-horses!

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Good point!

Just because a woman dreamed to be a model, she's incapable of babysitting?

I say as long as she is patient and doesn't yell at children like Kate, she is more qualified than Kate to babysit. Some people do know how to separate their personal life from work life. They don't mention adult stuff in front of kids.

S said...

Hailey is quoted in US mag as saying 'Jon and Kate have moved on with their lives, its the viewers who haven't moved on'

Oh really Hailey! Perhaps she is so caught up in her 'first true love' that she fails to realize that TLC and KON have continually lied to the public and have not given an accurate portrayal of the Gosselins lives. I wish Hailey much maturity!

sugerr said...

I emailed california women's conference to let them know that Kate does not reflect the values they are trying to present and they seriously need to rethink having her represent women because she is not a role model and her motives and actions are seriously questionable.

Tiredof8 said...

AbusedHusbandsNeedHelp said...
Give the poor guy a break. He's in therapy (read that somewhere)and he's finally reclaimed his cajones. OF COURSE HE IS ENJOYING HIMSELF -- given his history with that $%^**^, he did a VERY brave thing and he's proud.

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You missed my point.... this entire thing is STAGED. Go back and read the BlindGossip article someone posted that stated this entire show - and what happens outside of it - has been scripted.

Jon is just as much a player as Kate is. And reaping in the money.

Has he got a job yet?
Has he tried to discuss with a lawyer about a temporary block of the kids' filming until the divorce?
Has he been shopping for yet, yes, another car?
Does he have an apt. quite a ways from his children... paid for by his children?

So no I can't stand either Kate or Jon. Both are users and exploiters. And personally, when those kids turn 18 you will see they will hate them both.

I highly doubt Jon will be very present in a few years. Let him find a new woman - someone else to "control" him who he can blame, and make some more kids. More to use.

No sympathy at ALL from me until he shuts down TLC filming.

lovemysons said...

Actually, Anne, you're wrong. Legally she does have a say. They are not officially divorced yet, and he is bring in a person with a questionable backgroung into a home that she legally lives in.

And honestly, I back Kate on this issue. Those kids are having a hard enough time with their parents separation. But for Jon to bring in a girl to stay the night before the ink is dry is wrong. Especially a girl who wants to pose nude. I would never want my children exposed to this sort of person.

Chris said...

Not defending Kate but if Kate does not feel comfy with Stephanie Santoro watching her children then she has every right to go to the home to protect her kids and put a stop to that woman watching them.
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Actually, she doesn't. What she should have done is have her attorney send a letter expressing her concerns. However, being young, pretty, etc. won't cut it. There should be something more substantial than that.

No More TLC said...

I am joining this boycott of TLC/Discovery and their advertisers.

I'll be encouraging everyone I know to do the same.

Dunwoody Mom said...

Women like Kate have gotten away with this sort of unreasonable behaviour for too long throughout history. We women fight against abuse of a fellow female, yet many of those same women are unable to take a look at their own gender and apply the same sincere effort at viewing the situation fairly.

Amen!!! Many of us on this blog have recognized and complained about the abuse Kate has heaped upon Jon. If it were Jon, hitting Kate, belittling her, correcting grammar, etc., you can believe that the Jane Velez Mitchell's of the world we be up in arms over Jon's behavior.

Why are they silent now? I just don't understand.

PaLisa said...

The TLC big wig, that woman, said "It is hard to walk away from high numbers."

I can't remember her name, but I do remember her comment. She admitted it! High numbers is what she is all about.

The kids? Preserving a family? Privacy? Respect? Heck no! High numbers is what she is after.

That woman is a PIG! She and J&K need to be hung out to dry together.
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I think you mean Eileen O'neil. I was thinking that her child/ren are going to read this someday too and wonder what the heck their mother was thinking and she might just get what she deserves. She too might want to think ahead at the trouble she is egging on just to get ratings. Maybe her and kate can grow old together since their kids won't want anything to do with either of them.

PaLisa said...

What I would like to know is how Kate knew Jon had called that particular babysitter that night? Seems kinda fishy to me

PrettyIsAsPrettyDoes said...

Zac said...
Just because a woman works in a bar she's incapable of babysitting? Come on people...get off your high-horses
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My daughter went to college with a girl who worked as a stripper. She wasn't a prostitute -- strictly look, but don't touch. She was popular with fellow-students, and came from a very poor home. She worked two evenings a week and made enough money to put herself through school. While I can't see that as an ideal carreer choice, it did what she needed it to do --

That stripper is now in med school!

Just a thought --

Chione said...

I read some of the radaronline comments on the whole police being called, Kate driving dangerously, etc. and I am surprised that there are people STILL defending Kate's behavior.

WISE UP, people, and think critically. Kate is trying to push her "smart, independent single mom who is all about the kids" when her behavior says otherwise. If she REALLY cared about the kids, she wouldn't be shutting off her headlights to throw paps off her tail at the risk of her own life.
A responsible mom would ignore the media and get home SAFELY so that the kids would still have a mother.
Kate was just irritated that those horrible p-people had the gall to follow her when she OBVIOUSLY wanted to be left alone. She was distressed about things not going exactly according to her own plans, that she had to resort to dangerous behavior to make herself feel like she was in control of the situation ("CAN'T SEE ME NOW, P-PEOPLE! HA, I WIN")
The kids weren't even on her mind...just anger toward the p-people and Jon, because everything is his fault.

Neither Jon or Kate are saints. Neither of them has pulled the plug, and both of their behaviors are reprehensible.

I just wish people would stop buying Kate's story when it is so obviously phony. And the people who are defending her decision to go to the house during Jon's time are out of their minds.
They both decided on the custody, to say that she can suddenly ignore the rules is ridiculous.

Marie of 3 said...

lovemysons said...

Actually, Anne, you're wrong. Legally she does have a say. They are not officially divorced yet, and he is bring in a person with a questionable backgroung into a home that she legally lives in.

And honestly, I back Kate on this issue. Those kids are having a hard enough time with their parents separation. But for Jon to bring in a girl to stay the night before the ink is dry is wrong. Especially a girl who wants to pose nude. I would never want my children exposed to this sort of person.
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LoveMySons, I'm a former family lawyer in Pennsylvania -- I left my practice to start a family -- and Anne is right.

Once you legally file for separation in the state of Pennsylvania your interim custody agreement is treated as law. This is why the police told Kate that she had no legal right to access her children or house when she showed up and needed to leave.

She has no legal grounds to protest Jon's choice of babysitter, just as Jon has no right to protest her's.

A way around this would be to insert a clause in the divorce decree which requires mutual consent of both parents when choosing babysitters and nannies.

Morally, you may feel Kate is entitled to approve who her children are around when Jon has custody but that is not the letter or the spirit of the law.

Jesus take the wheel said...

@Chione

I honestly don't see too many people here defending Kate..maybe on Baby Mama's site but surely not here!

I'd Talk Forever said...

Once you legally file for separation in the state of Pennsylvania your interim custody agreement is treated as law. This is why the police told Kate that she had no legal right to access her children or house when she showed up and needed to leave.

She didn't file for legal separation in the state of Pennsylvania. She filed for no-fault divorce. Under the law, there is no "legal separation" in this state, which quite possibly is why she didn't file for it!

Emmy said...

PaLisa said...
What I would like to know is how Kate knew Jon had called that particular babysitter that night? Seems kinda fishy to me
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Not necessarily! I can totally see a control freak like Kate driving past the house to see whose car is in the driveway -- particularly if she was feeling pissy and spoiling for a fight. You can bet she knows exactly what car each and every staff and film crew member owns.

Looking for trouble said...

I agree with the poster who said Kate drove back (when it wasn't her visitation time) because she was looking for a fight. That's her M.O. Its what she does. She is, and always HAS been a bully. But its no longer working, so she tried to hone in on Jon's turf, KNOWING it would cause a fight,
or why go in the first place.

okiedokie said...

I wonder how many times Kate called home when she was on her 30 + day book signing and speaking engagement tour with concerns regarding the name and credentials of the 'babysitter' Jon had on duty?

TandLMommy28 said...

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/08/exclusive-cops-called-jon-and-kate-gosselins-house-after-arugment

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Once a white trash family, always a white trash family.

Ugh.

So excited about this child abuse watch thing. It would be nice if not only was the show pulled, but they were fined big time and all their money was put into trust for the kids... Of course, if that happened, who knows if Jon and Kate would suck u p to the kids in hopes of getting the money back someday. Ugh.

Know when to fold it said...

Jon and Kate have BLOWN each and every opportunity that they were given. Few people in a lifetime have been given those kind of chances to make it in life. But...of course greedy Kate had to overplay her hand and as a result, will wind up with NOTHING, very soon.

Please throw the show out said...

Its turned into raunchy television for the 2 of them, and that's all it is now. We do not need to see this garbage anymore.

JennN said...

Thanks all for giving me the legal aspect of all of this because it really never crossed my mind. I mean they are still her kids and these aspects some of you pointed out scares me.

readerlady said...

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH! I just read the list of sponsors for the show. (Thanks for posting it, Rach Here)Now I have a dilemma. There are only 2 cell phone companies that are licensed for the area I live in. Verizon and AT&T. I have AT&T cell service, and because I'm frequently on the road alone, at night, I must have cell service. So - what do I do (I tried a Tracphone, but there were too many areas without service)?

@tiredof8

I'll take a crack at answering your questions.

Jon doesn't have a job yet. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S DISCUSSED WITH HIS ATTORNEY ABOUT STOPPING THE SHOW, OR ANYTHING ELSE, FOR THAT MATTER. Do you think TLC would admit that he was trying to stop the show? He hasn't said anything, but that may be on the advice of his attorney. And don't forget that we don't know what he was planning to talk about in his interview with E!. TLC put the kabosh on that. Let's not rush to judgment on this issue. Regardless of what we THINK he should have done, it's just not that easy to break a contract, especially one with a multi-million dollar corporation with high-powered legal eagles at their beck and call. Again, we don't KNOW that he was shopping for another new car. It was reported that he was, but no proof has been submitted of that. He does have an apartment several hours from the kids, but it's not paid for by the kids. It's paid for by TLC.

RE Jon and his education - Didn't he say in one of the shows that he'd gone to college but dropped out? I don't remember for sure. However - college isn't for everyone. Not going to college doesn't make a person evil or stupid. And, as already pointed out, Jon has a good vocabulary and is, for the most part, grammatically correct in his speech - Kate's constant corrections and belittlings notwithstanding. Jon is immature and his recent behavior is questionable, to say the least, but let's not make him out to be something he's not.

Connie said...

okiedokie said...
I wonder how many times Kate called home when she was on her 30 + day book signing and speaking engagement tour with concerns regarding the name and credentials of the 'babysitter' Jon had on duty?
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I'm very much paraphrasing but I think there was one episode where J&K discussed this very issue. Kate said she seldom if ever called home because it was too hard on the kids blah, blah, blah. She assumed if she heard nothing from Jon everything was okay.

My kids are nearly 40 and if they're on vacation I try to talk to them every few days just to make sure they and their families are okay! I must be WAY over protective! :)

I'd Talk Forever said...

My kids are nearly 40 and if they're on vacation I try to talk to them every few days just to make sure they and their families are okay! I must be WAY over protective! :)

No you're not. You're a mom. That's what moms who love their kids do best -- they make sure that they are okay. Age doesn't even enter into the scenario!

Concerned Canadian Mom said...

I just went to "Truth Breeds Hatred" (Aunt Jodi's sister's site). Here is the letter that the Childabuse.net has written to California govenor Schwarzeneggar and firt lady Maria Schriver, regarding Kate's upcoming appearance at the The Women’s Conference in California in Oct.

Re: Request for the removal of Kate Gosselin from your list of Women’s Conference speakers


http://truthbreedshatred.blogspot.com/

stopthemadness said...

I think the fact that these shows are re runs and not new episodes tells us something is up, either TLC renegotiating with the stars, or someone intervening about the amount of time the kids are under a camera.

We've seen them split into three groups for filmiing which I believe is to prevent them from being filmed as much, they have not shot footage in the house other than the shot of Jon in his dress or watching M&C "perform" - most of it's been outdoors.

I think the allegations by the founder of childabuse.net and some of the outrage in the public have caught up with them, and it is about dang time!

I don't think Kate married Jon for his wit or intelligence - he was a "bad boy" - wild, etc on his motorcycle in his leather jacket. She was raised religious and trained to be a nurse. But yet latched onto him like a tick, and held on. It's interesting because you would think the thrills and chills of being Jon's GF would have worn off. Possibly the rich family made a difference and made him appear worth keeping. Now, he clearly is a liability and she has no use for him. Keeping the kids from getting pulled to bits during this ugly divorce should be the advocate's top concern as it doesn't seem to be either parent's top concern despite what they say.

stopthemadness said...

Interesting point; Kate did not know or care who was with the kids when she was off with her bodyguard doing the book tours. She indicated that their agreement was no news is good news and do not call me. Probably didn't want him trying to figure out which hotel room she was in, when. Or have the kids whining and coming to her with complaints when there was nothing she could do. Jno could have had and did have a number of girls over starting with the sun bathing Deana?

Then when there is a chance to be photographed by paparazzi being an outraged mother ready to rescue her children from one of Jon's sl*ts, she's over there like a shot and so are the cameras.

The more she ups the ante doing this kind of thing the uglier the divorce will become and hopefully the more obvious it will be to the judge that some kind of ad litem advocating for the kids' best interest must be appointed. They won't change the laws but they certainly could change the custody agreement.

Why am I thinking that the contract will say that only for TLC filming will the kids be allowed to leave the state. It's like they are imprisoned there in that "mansion." I want Jon to take them to Hawaii to goof off with his relatives who seemed nice and normal. No cameras. No wooden spoon. No matchy outfits, just family, sunshine, water - and whatever babysitter their dad deems appropriate. Ideally not one he is sleeping with so as to keep the drama and confusion to a minimum.

In CA kids can choose which parent they want to live with at age 12. or at least that is my understanding. Hang on Mady and Cara. You will have negotiating power in 3 short years.

ratherbkayaking said...

There are two new documents on their website - a new letter to TLC requesting they remove Jon and Kate after the Jon Gosselin interview and other 'glam-sham' interviews with Kate. The other is a second letter to all advertisers.

Susan said...

There is a typo in the second letter, children is misspelled.