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Rosie said...

Any feedback from the Calif. Woman's Expo? Some of you have written some pretty powerful letters to Maria S.

goawayfools said...

TLC keeps trying to show a more appealing Kate but it will never work because their supposed heroine is a deeply flawed and unlikable person. They can tell Kate to appear to be attentive to her kids but what we get is Kate dressed like a slut and conveniently picnicking in the driveway where the two paparazzi on duty get a picture of the unhappy looking family. She cannot appear attentive and loving because she is neither. Her kids do not appear happy because they are not. No amount of PR can change this. Maybe this is why pictures of her and the kids inflame people so. TLC, she is hopelessly hatable and a sad excuse of a person and mother.

Kay said...

The children's expressions say it all. Maybe blunt little Mady has been trying to warn the grown ups, in her own 8 year old way, that "The Emperor and Empress HAVE NO CLOTHES".

We may not have noticed the bare truth at first (and TLC can TRY to dumb down the viewers by giving Kate a superficial new attitude towards her children, "fans" etc. and Jon a new motorcycle or two). But the show will never work again.

We have seen the reality in the eyes of eight little children. And, we can't get them out of our minds. Sad. Sad.

99 problems said...

Driving home from work tonight, it occurred to me that my biggest issue with Kate being portayed as the "heroic single mom" is that she brought this on herself. She had the power to prevent this divorce and chose not to. In my case, I did not have any choice in the matter whatsoever - not even the slightest bit of forewarning. It was literally comparable to a plane crash or a tornado, completely unexpected and there was nothing I could do to stop it. To this day I don't know what caused my ex to do what he did.

Kate, on the other hand, KNEW she was not treating Jon well (as evidenced by her frequent explanations & justifications for her yelling, sarcasm, and smacking). She also KNEW he didn't like doing the show anymore. But rather than changing her behavior and compromising, she went full steam ahead but now expects us to see her as a victim?

There is no question that Jon has faults too, but from what we saw on the show he tried to do what Kate wanted him to do (even though it was never good enough). That's the only area where they were working together LOL...they were both trying to please Kate!

It's been 5 years since my ex & I split and I still try to figure out what I could have changed. I am afraid to date anyone, because if I don't know what I did wrong with my husband how can I keep from doing it again and ruining another relationship?

Meanwhile Kate acts as though she were subjected to a horrible marriage and should be pitied for having so much responsibility now that she's been "abandoned." Her statement that it was Jon's actions that left her no choice to file, even though no one knows what those "actions" are, proves that she is playing the victim. It's ridiculous!

sallyx said...

TLC is unable to show us a likeable Kate because they took pains and pride in showing us what a vile and vicious being she is for the past three years.

She's turned a marriage and family into a tabloid circus act with her taking the roll as Grand Master of dysfunction and cruelity.

The only attentiveness we see from her is that which she lavishes on herself.

She isn't speaking at the Women's Expo, merely peddling her pathetic scrapbook and the scripture filled lies of their early days.

Go away gosselins said...

No feedback from objection letters sent. I take care not to twitter about Gosselins as PR companies use that as evidence of their popularity.
Also note people are making up stories about Gosselins based on comments left at gossip sites. Like Kate cutting up t-shirts, no media outlet reported this occurred.

Dunwoody Mom said...

TLC, she is hopelessly hatable and a sad excuse of a person and mother.

So, true and I have to wonder how long TLC will continue trying to remake Kate's image if the ratings continue to slide. TLC is really wasting money here. Kate Gosselins cannot be redeemed.

MBach said...

I read the post about kate/Hate cutting up Jon's shirts. It made me think of my parents troubles loooong ago. My mother was a very insecure person, and my dad did seem to enjoy feeding her inner monsters. She became convinced that he went out on a date one of his poker nights, he did nothing (I knew of) to reassure her, and she made herself crazy thinking about it over a few days. By the next week's poker night, my mom was ready to lock dad in the basement to keep him from leaving the house. Instead, she tossed the shirt he had laid out to wear into the fireplace. I will never forget the look in her eyes as she watched that shirt burn, and I was just 7. Scary.

I think that is why I stopped watching J&K+8. I remembered seeing that crazy look when I saw it in kate/Hate's eyes. It was in the episode where kate/Hate calls Joel over to her to "correct" him over some slight. That woman had nothing but hate and crazy anger in her face for her little son. I didn't even make the conection why that episode bothered me so much until I read the cut up shirt story, but seeing it in kate/Hate's eyes was still scary for the grown up me.

Neither my mom or dad were the cold and stupid parents that Jon and kate/Hate are, but they did play off each other in ugy ways for about the first 10 years. Most of it was NOT done in front of their kids, and thankfully, their marriage worked out. Then life got pretty stable, and I have very few bad experiences to remember.

However, I STILL remember those bad times. The Gosselin kids can take all the fun trips in the world, but what really matters are how the people they love the most treat them and each other.

fidosmommy said...

99 Problems said:
It's been 5 years since my ex & I split and I still try to figure out what I could have changed. I am afraid to date anyone, because if I don't know what I did wrong with my husband how can I keep from doing it again and ruining another relationship?

*******

Here's the problem with so many divorces. One person tries to take all the blame. "If I had done this, he would not have left. If I hadn't let this happen, she would still be here."

There are 2 kinds of skewed reality: the kind where we see ourselves as total victim and where we see ourselves as the cause of all the problems. Rarely is either accurate.

99 Problems, you're trying to shoulder it all yourself. Please realize you may have done nothing wrong that warranted being left. Sometimes it's not one thing you did or didn't do. If you honestly can't figure out what it was, maybe - just maybe - it's not there to find. Please be kinder to yourself.

As for Kate, she's trying to take all of the blame too .... and lay it right on Jon's shoulders. That won't work either. She needs to be less kind to herself.

99 Problems, unless you're another Kate Gosselin type who is skewed into the totally fault-free thinking, my bet is you are just beating yourself up too much.


On another subject, a wise person upthread mentioned that TLC has introduced us to the bratty, self-centered, OCD, screechy Kate and built the show's popularity on that image of her. Now they want us to believe that she's calm, motherly and willing to go with the flow? I totally agree with the skepticism over that. It's absurd that TLC has taken Kate Gosselin, put her in a newly
designed box and told us "New and Improved!" It's the same old product as it has always been, just in a different package. And it costs more, too. This former viewer isn't buying it, thanks.

Liv's Mommy said...

Product placement seems to be more and more prominent in all cable programs these days. I was watching Monk last night and there were several scenes with Monk staying at a Sleep Inn. Their logo was on the tissue box, the doors and of course the front of the hotel. And who was the sponsor for this particular episode? You guessed it Sleep Inn. And you know Monk with his OCD had to buy products to re-clean his room. What was in his bag but Scrubbing bubbles and Pledge wipes. More product placement. I guess all of the shows are going to riddled with blatant product placement from now on because of people like me who record everything on DVR and watch it later so I can skip the commercials. I guess the commercial is now becoming part of the show.

stopthemadness said...

99 problems, Kate is not going to play well as the struggling single brave mom -she's not an actress and she just. can't. pull. it. off.

and I agree with Dunwoody that TLC will give up the attempt to make that portrayal stick, past this season.

I think they were going to see how it went with Kates fabulous new career and how people respond. How that works in marketing is, you run something up the flagpole and see who salutes. If no one does, you change it and try again. They will try another persona on - I think they were checking to see if some minor damage repair or tweaking would suffice and it clearly won't because Kate is not the only one behaving badly.

met said...

After seeing one of the twins leaving the nail salon in tears I realized what a MONSTER Kate really is. Could she have blocked her with a hug (or would that of ruined her toes?) OR pick her up in her car at the door?

I wish TLC would cancel this show for the sake of the children. They have enough money and if not both parents should get a job!

stopthemadness said...

I was thining of what another poster said, I think Connie, back last week about not knowing what is true about these people. The lies and the spin have been in play so much, in many cases they are the exact opposite of the reality. Those dreamy sequences about the coming Hawaii vow renewals, case in point. They were milking a fake second chance, to get ratings up. Kate led us to believe that if Jon didn't want to continue the show there was a chance that the show would end, think of that - so they could focus on the family. Where all along TLC was working with her and probably with him, to set up the new house for filming with the two of them sharing custody separately,etc. There was never a second's consideration to end the show for the sake of the marriage or family - only to exploit the idea of doing such a thing, for ratings.

one thing I know, this show is fake, the people are fake, and the family is not who they are shown to be. The children aren't fake but I think they are very unhappy confused and depressed and so they should be at this point, but of course mama and daddy will say they are happy and normal because what else can they say.

I don't know if Kate had multiples on purpose twice for some grand idea of her own to have a tv show - somehow I doubt it - but the fact that she got pregnant on purpose with 8 follicles and kept all the babies says that that was done on purpose, foolishly so if you ask me, because of the health concerns for mother and babies as well as the fact that her husband was NOT a good earner and she couldn't possibly work for a long while.

Whatever reason this show came about, it's not the same show now, Kate and Jon have reacted to their wealth and celebrity with a tackiness that is horrifying and appalling. Kate hasn't "worked on what is spoiled" she has fed what is spoiled and rotten, in her own character. Money improves some people - they become giving and generous - enough said.

I don't mind watching rich people lord it over everyone with their possessions and do watch Real Housewives - they got rich by doing something or marrying men who do something and they were rich when the show started, that was the whole point. Kate was supposed to be like us. I just saw an episode yesterday I hadn't seen before of them taking the kids when tups were 3, to a park then out for ice cream then home to play in the girls' room before bed. OMG what a different family. That is what I wanted to see - dad pushing the kids on the swings, the tups pretending they were up on the benches to avoid the alligators, Mady and Cara pretending that Hannah's pony was having a baby. Just regular people doing regular stuff in a regular house and how they lived.

They've destroyed all that now and took their good luck and their money, and flaunht it, and use their celebrity to embarrass themselves and damage the kids. That is what I see, it doesn't matter if we know every in and out of how that happened. It did happen, and that is what viewers see. Some don't object - in fact some LOVE it. Fans. Go figure.

No more Tshirts said...

I'm not positive but I believe the cut up shirts was reported by one of the magazines, by someone that knew directly what happened. I do not at all put that past Kate, that is the exact revenge she would relish...destroying something that Jon was fond of. She's done it before.

LovingMom said...

ITA that no amount of charm school or TLC manipulation will make Kate into the heroic, loving figure they want (need) her to be.

There's too much old footage depicting the REAL Kate, so all these latest attempts at proving she's relaxed, attentive, loving, grateful (LOL) and witty (ROTFL) just serve to make her look PHONY on top of her other many other shortcomings.

Who does TLC think is buying this stunning transformation? All those new viewers who tuned into the divorce spectacles (and who have apparently since left the show by the millions)? Or the sheeple who have never been able to see Kate for who she really is?

It's a losing proposition TLC. This is one sow's ear that will never be a silk purse, no matter how much you attempt to manipulate, edit and coach her into it.

Nobody comes said...

The most sobering part of this whole fiasco for Kate, is when she yells Jonnnn...nobody comes.

the cal girl said...

I was setting up taping Secret Life on Monday and noticed that Jon & Kate was a repeat of the skiing trip??? What is going on?

Polly P said...

I was in Walmart yesterday and wondered if THAT book was still on the racks. I have "moved" them to other areas of the store before, and yesterday there were none displayed.

Maybe somebody else moved them too, or else they were no longer for sale there.

In either case, that was a good thing.

Sidney said...

An interesting letter by Paul Petersen regarding the "special" that Fox aired last week on Octomom's family.

Why oh why don't other states adopt this type of legislation?

I do so hope his next attention will be on the Gosselins, and I hope Gloria Allred will be right along side of him.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1124348/board/thread/145768758

mom-of-one said...

Not sure if this was already posted, but I didn't see if it was. The Gosselin's site now lists the PR firms representing both K&J. More contact information for GWoP'ers to write to (or call).....

For All Business Inquiries related to Kate Gosselin including Personal Appearances/Speaking Engagements, Endorsement Deals and Television/Film Opportunities please contact Julie May at Media Motion International at info@mediamotionintl.com


For All Business Inquiries related to Jon Gosselin: Personal Appearances/Speaking Engagements, Media Requests, Endorsement Deals, Television/Film Opportunities please contact Mike Heller at Talent Resources at 212-725-1005 or Mheller@talentresources.com

marypoppins said...

I have a job that I love. My efforts contribute to my company's success.

I feel so sorry for the person/peeple who work for TLC and J and K.

Do they wake up every morning wondering what these two will do today and what damage contol will be needed

Do they have to read gossip magazine and patrol fan sites all day to find out what people think about the G's

Do they go to bed thinking how to spin J or K's action to hold on to viewers.

Who decided that Kate should go to the copy shop with personal information exposed.
What Kate should be doing today.

And just who writes Kates blog on the TLC website.

Laurie said...

Liv's Mommy - I also noticed the procut placement on the Monk show, but I love the show and will continue to watch. There is blatent product placement in movies and TV all the time. Remember ET and Reeces Pieces? They are not exploiting anyone (like Kon) so where is the harm in this case? We'll either buy the products or we won't.

Geri said...

John and Kate Plus 8 will show reruns this Monday night. Wonder why? It says "Dude Ranch" will air on the 31st.

http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/jon-kate-plus-8/tv-listings/287169

goawayfools said...

I agree that the product placement on Jon and Kate is the most obvious, self-serving and irritating that I have ever seen. At least the product placement on other shows attempts to integrate the product into the scene/plot. I won't buy Reeses pieces because of ET but found them to be an adorable part of the movie. Seeing the ungrateful Gosselins gifted with unnecessary, luxury items and revolving entire shows around the freebies ( new cabinets, crooked houses and free vacations) annoys the ---- out of me. And it's not that I want what they're getting. It just seems excessive, and almost every show revolves around them getting something. We never see the parents playing or talking with the kids except to keep them in line. I'm sure Kate wouldn't dream of going back to the original format of the show. It's take, take, take for her. The kids wanted a new kitchen, my ass.

Roxxy said...

Lipstick on a pig??????

It's still a pig!!!!!!

TLC and whoever can do what they want to try and change Kate but she is, has been and will always be a self-centred, self-serving narcisistic B-I-T-C-H. ME-ME-ME is all that matters and will ever matter to her.

goawayfools said...

I actually think TLC would do better to promote Jon as the super-parent here. No doubt he has been acting like a d-bag lately and making decisions that reflect poorly on his image as a father. But deep down at his core, Jon is a sweet man and naturally affectionate parent. TLC doesn't see that HE is the one with potential, he's the more likeable of the two and until his bimbo eruption over the past few months, he had our sympathies and support and really did come off as a pretty damn good father. If he listened to advice and exercised self-control, TLC would have something to work with. Instead they have thrown their support behind the Kate, who has all the charm of a hemorrhoid

Not that smart said...

I also saw where TLC "will be showing re-runs on Monday night" and the dude ranch will not show till the 31st. Its because they're running out of ideas and film. Plus they are letting things that were just in the news die down.
They think they are smarter then the viewer.

CuteKitties said...

Apparently someone here pissed off "BabyMamma" LOL. Here is her latest post about Kate's book tour being posted.

"Baby Mama said...
THE LIARS OF GWOP ARE AT IT AGAIN!
Of course it's been months since I cared about that used dried up site, but they pissed me off again. They fully copied & pasted my Kate Confrence Schedule on their site for a post, and put "thanks Ms. Peach." As if to say this is actually a real person that sent it to them. I am the only person on the web that has this info. And they STOLE it to get information for the Southern Womens Confrence to attack them. Even going so far as to put the presidents e-mail, fax & Phone number and urging people to call to take Kate Gosselin off the list. it didnt work.

I personally called Mr. Zimmerman letting him know that his contact information was put on a lying hate site. I am also writing a letter to fax hopefully Monday. These idiots think they are making some sort of dent in the "Lets Destroy Kate" campaign..

August 22, 2009 6:51 PM "

bwhahahahah! Why is this women so obessed with GWOP?

Dog Kitchen said...

"goawayfools" said,

"the Kate, who has all the charm of a hemorrhoid."

OMG! ROFLMAO!

NYMamma said...

mom-of-one said...
Not sure if this was already posted, but I didn't see if it was. The Gosselin's site now lists the PR firms representing both K&J. More contact information for GWoP'ers to write to (or call).....

For All Business Inquiries related to Kate Gosselin including Personal Appearances/Speaking Engagements, Endorsement Deals and Television/Film Opportunities please contact Julie May at Media Motion International at info@mediamotionintl.com
=============================

Info on Julie May:
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/julie-may/6/720/673

Danielle said...

"Haunting memories preserved on the Jon and Kate Gosselin website"

http://www.examiner.com/x-12100-Jon-and-Kate-Plus-8-Examiner~y2009m8d16-Jon-and-Kate-Gosselin-The-Gosselins-website-is-spooky

Calgary7 said...

99 problems said...
Kate had the power to prevent this divorce and chose not to. In my case, I did not have any choice in the matter whatsoever. To this day I don't know what caused my ex to do what he did. It's been 5 years since my ex & I split and I still try to figure out what I could have changed. I am afraid to date anyone, because if I don't know what I did wrong with my husband how can I keep from doing it again and ruining another relationship?


Your comments struck a nerve and I wanted to share this:

1) it takes two to make a marriage work. If your partner wasn't prepared to man up then it was doomed to failure.

Be thankful and count your blessings every day that he pulled the plug five years ago and not waited until you were in your sixties.

2) You are not the same person you were when you got married or even the same person you were five years ago when you were divorced.

You are wiser, know more about the world, work at a challenging job, balanced with raising your kids and juggling to get some stuff done before you fall into bed late at night.

Likely you will be attracted to men are also wiser, work hard, value their families and have a lot to juggle too.

3) Worrying about sabotaging another relationship with the baggage from your first marriage? Talk with a counseller or your minister/priest/rabbi. Most cities and towns have distress centres with help lines where you can talk through any worries or concerns. Focus on you and any changes you would like to see in yourself. Frankly, it doesn't matter one what or another what your ex thinks or wants to blame you for.

My guess is that you are a great person, bright and intelligent with a terrific sense of humour who is stressed three ways from Sunday with all that is on her plate.

Yet somehow you manage.

Any future guy will be lucky to find such a wonderful pearl as you.

In the meantime, stop beating up on yourself. You do not control the universe. The only thing you can control is how you handle or react to a situation. For any of those that still question you five years later what happened to your marriage simply say it takes two, he pulled the plug and I'm thankful that it is now while I am still young enough to create a new life for myself.

You are a wonderful person.

Now take your kids out for a walk and enjoy a few minutes outdoors.

Calgary7 said...

fidosmommy said On another subject, a wise person upthread mentioned that TLC has introduced us to the bratty, self-centered, OCD, screechy Kate and built the show's popularity on that image of her. Now they want us to believe that she's calm, motherly and willing to go with the flow? I totally agree with the skepticism over that. It's absurd

I love your posts Fidosmommy but I can only agree up to a point.

I agree with how she has appeared for the several seasons. The network, producers and studio have one goal: interesting TV that attracts viewers, makes money and pays their bonuses. Kate's shtick is probably part her, part her "acting" in front of the camera, and the rest the result of editing by the producers and editors. Of course there is a feedback loop that rewards bad behaviour -- the worse Kate behaved the more people would watch.

Where I disagree is I don't think TLC has any hand in trying to reshape Kate's image or behaviour. Kate signed with a new agent last fall and the new team are madly try to salvage any part of Kate's brand that is untouched by the tv histrionics.

What do I base this on? The see-sawing of behaviour, inconsistent messaging, carefully booked magazine interviews where she is given the cover page, the sudden interest in photo journalists to go to rural PA to hang about hoping to catch a shot of her pumping gas.

All of this shows a lack of cohesion and careful planning. Of course, I can just imagine the type of client Kate would be ...

Miranda said...

It occurs to me that Mady has always been "The Canary in The Mine" -- literally screaming out in agony and begging for someone to stop this madness and save them.

Calgary7 said...

goawayfools said...
I agree that the product placement on Jon and Kate is the most obvious, self-serving and irritating that I have ever seen. At least the product placement on other shows attempts to integrate the product into the scene/plot. I won't buy Reeses pieces because of ET but found them to be an adorable part of the movie.


Actually an industry magazine called Brandweek commented that Jon and Kate + 8 were in the top 5 shows for the volume and number of product placements. I can't find an online reference yet but I am still looking.

Companies see product placement as a cheaper way to get their product noticed. Overall advertising and marketing budgets have been slashed by 30% - 50% so they are stretching those dollars every way they can.

Until enough consumers are repelled by the practice and refuse to purchase any product used.

michelle said...

I can't believe that anyone still watches this show. Is anyone else tired of all these reality shows on TLC?

TLC Thinks We're Stupid said...

TLC is going to show re-runs on Monday night becasue they have to regroup. The stunts that they've pulled the past couple of weeks have not generated the viewers that they thought it would. The shows are boring. Look for a BIG publicity stunt right before the 31 August show. It's coming people.

Yep, it's me. said...

marypoppins said... I have a job that I love. My efforts contribute to my company's success.I feel so sorry for the person/peeple who work for TLC and J and K.

Thank you for your thoughts. Most days it isn't too bad. I keep telling myself it could be a lot worse -- I could be the person at the bottom of the waste treatment plant unplugging the drain pipe. Now, that would be a messy dirty job.

Do they wake up every morning wondering what these two will do today and what damage contol will be needed

No usually I wake up around 3 am worrying about how I am going to get everything done.

Do they have to read gossip magazine and patrol fan sites all day to find out what people think about the G's

It's been outsourced overseas. It only costs us 31 cents an hour.
There is a summary report that I photocopy.


Do they go to bed thinking how to spin J or K's action to hold on to viewers.

Not me. There are many many meetings held with lots of bosses and consultants with how to deal with that.

Who decided that Kate should go to the copy shop with personal information exposed.
What Kate should be doing today.

She came up with that all on her own.

And just who writes Kates blog on the TLC website.

It is written in Chinese, translated in Russia to English. So there are many unusual phrases and spellings.

I'm the one that has to answer all the email complaints about the website. I keep telling my boss it would be cheaper to do it right the first time rather than deal with all the complaints. He tells me that it is corporate policy to be globalized.

ihatefrogs said...

Not that smart said...
I also saw where TLC "will be showing re-runs on Monday night" and the dude ranch will not show till the 31st. Its because they're running out of ideas and film. Plus they are letting things that were just in the news die down.
They think they are smarter then the viewer.

8/22/2009 5:14 PM

My guess is TLC may be airing a re run due to network competition and fear that their ratings for the J & K + 8 show will drop even more. Are there any season premieres or new programs due to air on Monday the 24th? Dancing with the Stars?

Just me said...

Miranda said:
It occurs to me that Mady has alway been "The Canary in The Mine"..literally screaming out in agony and begging someone to stop this maddness and save them.
***********************************
Miranda perhaps you are right in your thinking but I have to wonder if Mady would still me Mady even without cameras? Maybe that is just her personality..Maybe...

We care about the innocent said...

Hi, I wasn't sure if this was something you all might be interested in, but here goes:

This blog http://oughtnottobe.blogspot.com/
protesting Kate speaking at the Birmingham, AL Women's Show due to her exploiting her children.

It has contact addresses for local media and contact information for the sponsors of the Birmingham Show.

fidosmommy said...

TLC Thinks We're Stupid said...
TLC is going to show re-runs on Monday night becasue they have to regroup.

******

Yeah, they're probably going to re-shoot some of the couch scenes in order to address some of the criticisms that have been flying during the week. You KNOW they read these blogs!

I can see it now....Kate is going to say "Well, see, I got this phone call from the nail salon asking me to come in because they love our show so much, so Cara and I went. Then Cara decided she'd rather be home reading the manual for the new plasma VISIO 72 inch HDTV with built-in DVR and surround sound that she deserves somebody to buy her for her bedroom instead of sitting in a girly place getting her nail thingys all painty, so she was tearish and being all fluffily about it. Gack. Kids!"

;-)

Yolanda said...

Read Mady's FAQ's (I wonder if she is really answering these):

http://www.polyvore.com/faq/set?id=11460599

1. do u like being on tv show?
Sometimes I love being on TV but sometimes I hate it. I like that because people watch our show the give us cool stuff. I don't like it becuase now paparazi follows us and they are at our house even wright now.

2. what is your favorite subject?
My new favorite subject is Science.

3. What is your favorite hobby?
I dont have a favorite. I like to sing, dance, color and paint, and also I like to play games with my brothers and sisters.

4. where is a room in your house where you can go to unwind by yourself?
I didn't know what unwind means so Sammantha told me. My room is the only place I can relaxe because the little kids arent alloud to come in.

5. what does you and cara's bedroom look like?
We have blue walls and blue bedspreads and some pink things

6. which house do u like better?
the new house because it is big and we have more spaces to play

(and more on the site)

.

PaLisa said...

"goawayfools" said,

"the Kate, who has all the charm of a hemorrhoid."

OMG! ROFLMAO!
******************

What an insult to hemorroids! Too funny

OverwithKON~~ said...

Polly P said...
I was in Walmart yesterday and wondered if THAT book was still on the racks. I have "moved" them to other areas of the store before, and yesterday there were none displayed.

Maybe somebody else moved them too, or else they were no longer for sale there.

In either case, that was a good thing.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Polly, ROFL! I do the same thing. Yesterday I was at Target and always look at books, so if I see that book, I usually accidentally put some other book out in front of it(like Tori Spellings dumb book). So I had picked out the book Wicked, about the good and BAD witches(Ha Ha HA)!. But I didnt see that book either, so I had to place Wicked back where it belongs. ;} Oh Darn, but good!!!!! Keep up the good work, we are steadily making a dent in this charade!

Anybody else do this? Any ideas to share?

Aunt Chris said...

I absolutely do not believe that Mady is writing a blog. Some grown up publicity person is doing it. Pure do-do.

Tired said...

Hmmmm...

My guess is that their original plan was an episode with more of Jon, and now they are rethinking it... if it is true that they are displeased with him.

kate is a cocky bitch said...

That is not Mady's blog. I think if she ever had one she would be much more sarcastic and funny.

Dunwoody Mom said...

Where I disagree is I don't think TLC has any hand in trying to reshape Kate's image or behaviour. Kate signed with a new agent last fall and the new team are madly try to salvage any part of Kate's brand that is untouched by the tv histrionics

BINGO!!! Excellent point.

So, do you think Kate is paying this PR firm or TLC? If Kate is and the ratings continue to fall and the appearances dry up - guess who is going to catch heck from Kate Gosselin?

Ohio Buckeye said...

michelle said...
"I can't believe that anyone still watches this show. Is anyone else tired of all these reality shows on TLC?"

YES! I've never been a fan of 'reality' shows and am appalled that each new one has an even worse premise than the previously-concocted program lineup.

"Reality TV" is such a misnomer. There is very little reality in any of these bombs. The activities are planned, and at least some of the dialogue is scripted. The characters are acted by casts who play roles that are caricatures.

I used to think soap operas were the pit of TV in their ridiculous characters and melodramatic plot lines. But 'reality tv' has set the bar even lower.

IMO there is nothing creative, nothing intellectually stimulating, nothing entertaining about 'reality' shows. I am offended that network execs seem to think viewers are so dim that we actually BELIEVE 'reality tv' is anything even remotely close to reality.

I'm not usually a blog-type person, but because I feel J&K+8 and Toddlers & Tiaras are the absolute worst of the worst (both in their content and the fact that innocent children are exploited for no other reason than misguided parental aspirations of 'celebrity' & network ratings), I speak out against these.

As for the rest of 'reality' shows, based on those ratings that networks claw and scratch to obtain, I accept there must be an audience for these, but I am at a loss to understand why.

Just MO and no offense intended to anyone.

ihatefrogs said...

Aunt Chris said...
I absolutely do not believe that Mady is writing a blog. Some grown up publicity person is doing it. Pure do-do.

I agree. No way is Mady writing that blog. The spelling errors are so obviously intentional. IMO, it's the workings of some lunatic fan (adult probably). Creepy.

Merrilee said...

Aunt Chris said...
I absolutely do not believe that Mady is writing a blog. Some grown up publicity person is doing it. Pure do-do.

I agree. No way is Mady writing that blog. The spelling errors are so obviously intentional. IMO, it's the workings of some lunatic fan (adult probably). Creepy.

8/23/2009 8:04 AM
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None of my kids still spelled that way when they were 8 or 9. I know not all kids are excellent spellers, but we are constantly told these girls are bright and intelligent girls. Bright and intelligent kids spell better than that crappy silly stuff.

Dunwoody Mom said...

Here is the info on this site. Someone has made this up to appear as if this is Mady's site. How scary!!!

Polyvore is a free, easy-to-use web-based application for mixing and matching images from anywhere on the web. It is also a vibrant community of creative and stylish people. If you look at some of those images, they are pictures that can be found all over the web.

Polyvore lets you create sets composed of individual images using an easy to use, drag and drop editor. After you have created a set, you can publish and share it with your friends and the Polyvore community.

Dunwoody Mom said...

Isn't Kate real name "Katie Irene"? This supposed Mady's site has Kate as "Kate Irene".

Kate Irene (Kreider) Gosselin
Mother of twins and sextuplets from Wernersville, joined 4 months ago
http://www.polyvore.com/gosselin_10/group.show?id=65102
I love being a mom, and raising my eight kids. They are truly a blessing. Just a note: Mady has a Polyvore but no one else does. Also, my assistant Anna helps me update my account.

Laurie said...

I think you're all "wright" in saying that Maddy IS NOT writing that blog. It is laughable. If she is "riting" it Khate had better not pull her out of school for any more vacations....

Tyra said...

This comment is regarding moving Kate's books in the store from one area to another...not to offend anyone, but if I was an employee of that store and saw someone doing that, I would definitely contact the manager. IMO, this tactic just isn't right. Kate is not my most favorite "mother" by any means, but if this tactic isn't controlling I don't know what is. Sounds like something Kate would do.

OverwithKON~~ said...

Regarding moving the books in the stores. Some may not see this as a respectable thing, and I usually do not either. But I do feel very strongly about how this woman makes her money, and do not think that these kids need to be on every shelf so that Khate can go to unlimited spa days. If they really did need to put food on the table, then it would be a different story, but this book(and all the exploitation) is putting expensive clothes on their mother, and alcohol in their father. I do not think it is bad to hide this book.

And to clarify: I dont move the book, but I do put another book in front of it, and yes, I do think that I am doing it for the good. I also do not buy porducts from their sponsers, and I write letters to let them know how I feel. To me it is the same thing.

pressured cooker said...

TLC Thinks We're Stupid said...
TLC is going to show re-runs on Monday night becasue they have to regroup. The stunts that they've pulled the past couple of weeks have not generated the viewers that they thought it would. The shows are boring. Look for a BIG publicity stunt right before the 31 August show. It's coming people.


As long as we're playing guessing games...I'll bet they're showing re-runs because they're hoping to have kicked Jon out of the TLC nest by then, and they need to redo anything that has him in it.

Here comes the Kate Show said...

I think your correct, that TLC is regrouping now that they have 'fired' Jon. It was getting boring enough in the past 6 months, but without Jon, forget it,
The Kate Show will not last but a week or two.

Tuesday said...

Note to Jon - I can appreciate your desire to be independent after your wife dumped you. As horrifying as it was to watch the way you AND your children were treated by the evil one, I'm sure living it was much, much, worse. How about this for a gameplan.. stay away from the cameras and interviews, shut-up and let your lawyers do the talking, don't feel the need to defend yourself to the public, and do the right thing. If that very famous pop singer could find a way around being photographed for awhile you certainly can also. Take the high road, be the better person, and make good choices. Mellow out for awhile because Kate WILL continue on her manic crash and burn mission. It'll only be a matter of time. (Inspiration from Aesop's The Tortoise and the Hare).

Riley said...

I firmly believe that as soon as TLC let's Jon out of his contract. He will spill EVERYTHING. I wonder if that is what they are scared of? I mean he has tried but they have stopped them because of 'contract' stuff.But I do think he doesn't care anymore and will do anything to get out of that contract.

Connie said...

Just curious...if Jon & Kate plus Eight were a brand new program today, all things being as they are now and we knew nothing about them, how would you advertise and promote the premier episode? What is so special about this family that you could entice viewers to tune in in record numbers? Kinda makes you stop and think.

Hmmmm...I just couldn't come up with a good answer. No creativity, no special talents, no special awards (mother of the year etc.), not particularly gifted, not endearing to the public, etc. There is NOTHING outstanding that I could think of that would rate them their own show. The kids are cute but there's a world full of cute kids. So just what IS the point of this show? To line the pockets of Jon & Kate and TLC? Geez! I have better ways to spend my little bit of money.

stopthemadness said...

They must be doing SOMETHING - if they perceive ratings as "falling" - and there appears to be some question about that - the number of viewers was artificially high for the fake wedding and the soon to follow breaking up episodes, but I think 3M is more like their normal viewership so maybe TLC just sees that they had a couple banner episodes and you can drag a family thru a fake wedding and real seaparation and divorce every season (can you?)

I think the switch from the stupid cowboy trip to a rerun must be inspired by something to do with all this negative attention. I can only imagine what that would be.

With all this going on between Jon and Kate and "her PR people" - TLC blurring his logo (damn I hate it when people do that to me!!) and sending him threatening notes, I wonder if Jon is even willing to play ball further. Maybe they had to agree that while they are in contract negotiations they can only show reruns?

It's risky to build up expectations and then do a rerun. The viewer numbers will drop even further. What about the sponsors who paid to sponsor Monday's show, thinking it'd be a new episode? They just get stuck with some stupid rerun no one wants to watch?

Rosie5 said...

I wonder when all of this finally all blows over will Jon stay with Hailey?? Having watched from the beginning and knowing that Jon did not want to go on with this season. Is his thinking that this behavior will tank the show sooner.I really hope that he has things that went on the cutting room floor showing the true Kate. I am in some ways team Jon, even though he is acting like a fool right now.... In the long run I am Team 8.

HE has a story to tell said...

I cannot WAIT for Jon to be released from his contract with TLC. That's when it will all hit the fan like a volcano. He has PLENTY to tell, and I'm sure he will. First the tv circuit, then he'll write a book. When he does, of course that for SURE will be a best seller and all the money from that will be HIS. He'll wait just until after the divorce, so he won't have to share any with Kate, and just let her go on her way with her mental problems and her freebees, since she'll never stop selling out the kids, but he'll be free of her hold.

Connie said...

I think Hailey is good for Jon right now but she's young and carefree and I think she wants to take this a lot slower than he does. He's just licking his wounds right now and you can't blame him. I do think he'll get straightened out, hopefully soon. I have no doubt he loves those kids. I have to say, if my family was being photographed 24/7 we sure wouldn't come off as the Nelsons or Cleavers :) Now I've dated myself.

And it's not going to be hard to skip the rerun on Monday. And hopefully a couple million people will switch it off as well. Something's going on and I hope it turns out to be a major upset. It's about time.

jonandkatewho? said...

I'm just guessing, but I wonder if maybe they are showing reruns so they can edit them first if needs be to show Kate in a less nasty light.

I noticed some time ago they had edited some of her very worst moments to make them look more tame. They edited quite a few that I saw. They even changed the intro to where she wasn't screaming "hellooo!" at Jon.

I'm guessing they may have other reasons, some of which have been stated on here. In the meantime, why not try to draw in some new viewers who have never seen the real Kate in action? They are probably having to rely largely on a newer audience these days. Those viewers who haven't seen all of the old episodes will get a cleaner, "nicer" Kate and perhaps get sucked in for awhile. I hope it doesn't work.

I wouldn't put anything past TLC. I also believe they will drum up some more drama before showing new episodes.

konGOaway said...

I think it would be really great if Jon went to the school picnic. No cameras, just a parent going for his children. Come on Jon, do the right thing. Also I was flipping through the channels yesterday and came across the ship episode and they were just going for ice cream. After reading all of the comments about Kate and Joel I watched for a few minutes to see what happened. WOW. I could not believe how she rejected that poor child. And the face she made to the camera - like he was blocking her shot or something. The poor embarassed child blurted out "but I like you". She could have grabbed him and hugged him and said "I like you too" but her decision was to reject the child. I rank that moment with the time Collin was sick and wanted her to comfort him and she said she was too busy with the salesman ordering their beds. Who would want to hear parenting advice from this cold hearted woman.

LiesInWailea said...

For all of us who are waiting for Jon's 'tell all book', please remember that his children, and their friends, will also be able to read the 'Tales of Jon and Kate'. It is one thing reading what is printed in the tabloids, but it is certainly another having your father talking openly about your childhood (whatever wasn't caught on film) and about what a shrew your mother was behind the scenes.

I think we know enough about Kate.

Please put the 8 before the $$$ for once and skip the book.

We see it like it is said...

I agree with the poster that said how TLC is trying to edit out the very bad Kate moments and clean up her vitriol and anger, so new viewers will see her as "not so bad". I've occationally seen it here with those that are new to this site. Some see Kate spending "wonderful days" with the kids, or "bonding", when those of us familiar with her see what we know to be true, a camera hog, a self centered opportunist and a poor excuse for a mother.

His turn said...

Whether we agree with a tell all
book by Jon or not, we know its coming. I have a feeling he is bursting to tell his side, and how HE held the family together all this time. Watch.

Amigo22 said...

They should have pulled the plug at the end of Season 4. Season 5 has has been mostly things that we have already seen at least once before, apart from the vacation episodes which we've seen 50,000 of.

Kay said...

Wow, I've been thinking more about this court thing. I just can't see how the lawyers and TLC would ever allow the divorce to go to open court.

Couldn't each side subpoena anyone as a witness? If so, that means all of the relatives, Beth, the nannies, TLC staff and producers, Hailey Glassman, Steve, etc. could all be called to testify under oath. Now THAT would be interesting!

It seems like it is in the self interest of Jon, Kate and TLC to keep the press out of the divorce......unless TLC has had it with the Gosselins and lets the whole show--fake personas and all-- blow up, big time, in court! Go out with a financial bang!

brennie said...

How are Jon and Kate going to support the children after the show is cancelled? Jon doesn't seem marketable to me. Kate may still be able to get speaking engagements (and pay part to Jon as alimony?). Just paying private school tuition would be really expensive.

Duckman said...

I can't remember seeing another show where they keep editing the reruns in an ongoing effort to rewrite the storyline.

Normally, reruns get edited to squeeze in extra commercials. The edits might change the storyline a little, but not to the point where something either doesn't happen or doesn't happen in the same manner as originally aired.

Even propaganda films are more static than this program.

Not Watching Anymore said...

"Just curious...if Jon & Kate plus Eight were a brand new program today, all things being as they are now and we knew nothing about them, how would you advertise and promote the premier episode?"

First thing, change the opening voices to "Yeah, it's an absolute train wreck, but it's *our* train wreck!"

IMHO said...

They can edit past shows all they want to show Khate in a better light, however, Khate in all her glory can be seen on YouTube or on all the DVDs that are for sale. IMO TLC is making a mistake trying to market the new improved Khate. No one is buying it and ratings are falling. I think many people used to tune in to see what she would do next and now they're just not that interested.

Moons in Leo said...

Let me see if I have this straight ... there was a new episode scheduled for tonight but it has been pulled or postponed?

Are new episodes still being filmed and having the daylights edited out of them?

As I've always said, you can take out Katie Irene's bad parts, but you can't edit in her vitriole.

Andrea Murdock said...

Even if Jon gets out of the TLC contract, you better believe there is going to be a confidentiality clause, whereby he will not be able to write a tell all book and TLC will gladly pay him to keep his mouth shut. If Jon is smart, he won't sign it.

Kate is too late said...

Would you watch the show again?

I would consider watching again if it went something like this:

Kate was a true single stay at home mom. Her day started with feeding the dogs, getting all 8 ready for school, packing their lunches, feeding breakfast and driving them an hour to school.

She would grocery shop and come home to do all the house work and prepare dinner. Then off to get the kids and home for dinner, homework, bath and bed.

She would have to handle all the Dr. appts, sport practices, play dates, teacher conferences and errands.

Kate would have to do this all alone. No nanny, no chef, no help from Jon, just her. I would like to see her tackle the world as a true single mom. She could never do it.

Snerk said...

Unlike some others, I'm not in the least worried that Jon and Kate can support eight children without the show. Those children do not NEED private school. Save the $70K and send them to the local public school. Rent out the manse. Move back to E-town or some other more reasonable quarters. Sell off the shoe collection on ebay and sell the pricy cars. Pack school lunches and learn to buy clothes at the thrift store. You know learn to live like other people with large families? You find ways to cut corners that fit with what you can do and give up being a diva. Tough for Kate, but too bad. That's life and she's going to be facing it sooner or later.

And that Ms. Kate is why I didn't let the doc help us to more than twins.

HawaiiMom said...

If Jon wrote a book, wouldn't he be selling out his children? Two wrongs don't make a right. If Kate sells out her children on tv, then Jon writing a book about them is no better. I hope to god that there isn't a book. He should be ashamed if he's even considering it.

MollyP said...

Not Watching Anymore said...

"Just curious...if Jon & Kate plus Eight were a brand new program today, all things being as they are now and we knew nothing about them, how would you advertise and promote the premier episode?"

First thing, change the opening voices to "Yeah, it's an absolute train wreck, but it's *our* train wreck!"
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The show needs a more appropriate name too, maybe "John and Kate Disintegrate".

Savethe8G's said...

What happened to the filmed day at the beach with the girls when they went for tea? Was that on an episode already and I missed it in recap? Are they trashing the rest of the beach vacation in hopes that taking the boys to the ranch will generate higher ratings??

Cheri Mercer said...

Oh Lordy Be, Katie Irene on Larry King AGAIN! Please, this is getting old. I am sure she will cry a river about how hard it is for her raising the kids ALL alone. Poor poor pitiful Kate.

Yack!

grannyoftwo said...

Well for all its worth, I just sent an email to Larry King and told him it was a shame that he once again is giving Kate another press opportunity when that is clearly all she is interested in. She is not concerned at all for her children or she would stop the madness right now. She keeps saying "we cannot go back, we can only go forward." Well to me forward would be stopping this show, getting a real job, supporting your children with love and attention, and getting them out of the spotlight now. You can get away from it. The public forgets very quicly, that is why it is called 15 minutes of fame. She doesn't want to go back is what she really means.

Tell It All! said...

HawaiiMom said...
If Jon wrote a book, wouldn't he be selling out his children? Two wrongs don't make a right. If Kate sells out her children on tv, then Jon writing a book about them is no better. I hope to god that there isn't a book. He should be ashamed if he's even considering it.

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IMO there is NOTHING Jon could say in a book that those poor little kids don't already know. I think, down the line, that it would provide them with some validation and might prove quite helpful when they all get into therapy (which they will, alas, need to do)

Lacey said...

Don't look forward to tell-all stories from Jon. I'm sure that when/if TLC lets him out of his contract there will be a requirement that he not spill ANY beans or he'll be mercilessly sued and skewered.

cheryl said...

Would love to hear more from former
employees or TLC staff members re
the bickering and fussing and only
able to get fifteen minutes of usable film after working all day.
What was all the fussing about??
This must be a mad house if that's
all these kids have heard for years.

Dunwoody Mom said...

TLC lets him out of his contract there will be a requirement that he not spill ANY beans or he'll be mercilessly sued and skewered.

You cannot sue someone for telling the truth.

I'd Buy It said...

Am I a horrible person....I'd buy the tell all book.

Im_in_PR said...

Why would Jon want out of the show now? He doesn't have any other way of supporting himself.

Katy said...

We can always ask advertisers not to advertise on "Jon and Kate".

There was a discussion on this blog about the advertisers can't pull the ads because they bought bulk ads. Someone suggested that. That is false.

A total of 33 Fox advertisers, including Wal-Mart Stores Inc., CVS Caremark, Clorox and Sprint, directed that their commercials not air on Beck's show. Keep in mind that Glenn Beck's show is just a regular cable show not Superbowl.

Sure, those companies can pull their ads from Glenn Beck's show so can "Jon and Kate" advertisers.

It's their money. They can advertise the way the want it. If they don't want to support child abuse, companies have the right to pull the ads. If TLC forces them to advertise on "Jon and Kate" in order to advertise on other shows, they can always say no and walk away. There's plenty of shows to advertise. Networks are desperate during this bad economy.

I would suggest writing letters and emails to advertisers. Tell them that we won't buy their products if they want to support "Jon and Kate".

Geri said...

I'd Buy It said...
Am I a horrible person....I'd buy the tell all book.

***

You and me both...I will be first in line to buy it.

Lacey said...

Dunwoody mom said......
You cannot sue someone for telling the truth.

You absolutely can, depending on who you are and how much money you have. The plaintiffs in such cases are usually large corporations trying to discredit a "truth teller". They don't always win, but they try to inflict as much damage on the person as they can in the process.

Longuyland Girl said...

Im_in_PR said...
Why would Jon want out of the show now? He doesn't have any other way of supporting himself.

Jon is trying to pitch a new "reality" show tentatively called "The Divorced Dads Club" to anyone who'll listen. I just wish that both Kate and Jon would fade into obscurity NOW!

realitybites said...

Why would Jon want out of the show now? He doesn't have any other way of supporting himself.

IMO, It is Jon's contract with TLC that prevents him from 'supporting himself' via other avenues outside of his 'role' with the J & K + 8 show. It is my guess that Jon has had some lucrative options thrown his way, as a means to support himself (and his children), however, he still remains obligated under contract with TLC. IMO TLC is caught between a rock and a hard place ; how much 'hush money' will it cost TLC to 'let Jon go' vs how much TLC potentially stands to gain ie ratings if they dont.

LiesInWailea said...

If Jon somehow manages to legally (forget ethics) be able to publish a 'tell all' book, let's hope he splits the profits by nine!

Eight would be better, but that will never happen.

LOL re: "it's our train wreck". Priceless.

Momof2inMD said...

This morning I saw by pure accident a episode of Jon and Kate where she got the tummy tuck.

I can't believe she actually asked for a boop job!!!! I would have felt embarrassed doing so. I watched Dr. Glassman real close when he told her to buy a underwire bra.....lol..... he did have a hint of a grin on his face I thought I saw.

Also when he was sitting on the couch with his wife before he examined Kate, even then when he mentioned the boop job he looked at his wife with this grin look on his face. Was it just me who saw that or did anybody else observe this????

Brooke said...

dont know if this has been posted yet but if you need a laugh, i stumbled upon j*k parody's on youtube my drcoolsex they crack me up! I hope the sheeple watch.

Connie said...

brennie said...
How are Jon and Kate going to support the children after the show is cancelled? Jon doesn't seem marketable to me. Kate may still be able to get speaking engagements (and pay part to Jon as alimony?). Just paying private school tuition would be really expensive.

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The same way any of us do when we lose a job. You pull yourself up by the bootstraps, cut back where you have to and get your butt out there looking for a new job. Ahh, J&K, welcome to the REAL world.

Ohio Buckeye said...

KateIsTooLate said... I loved your post! I, too, might watch a program about a REAL single parent who actually has to live in the REAL WORLD with all its unrelenting responsibilities that fall squarely on the single parent's shoulders. THAT I might watch. But, they'd have to do this all in a loving, patient way, i.e. someone not narcissistic and mean spirited. In other words: NOT K8 - this would be WAY WAY out of her league. ("I put in a screen for the first time..." puhleeze, woman.)

Ohio Buckeye said...

GrannyOfTwo said....Applause for you! I, too, hate it whenever K8 uses that "We can't go back. We can only go forward" rationalization for not pulling the plug on J&K+8 despite her kids having to navigate thru their parents'divorce on camera.

AS IF her rationalization makes any sense at all EXCEPT from the aspect that you pointed out: K8can't bear to go back to the nobody she was before she hopped onboard the TLC gravy & celebrity train. She needs the spotlight on her at all times - that was apparent from the very first episodes. The woman has issues.

If the likes of Britney Spears can turn the tide of constant publicity, why can't K8? I call b.s. on this one, just as I call it on most everything that falls from K8's mouth.

K8 has issues. MAJOR emotional/psych issues. IMO.

Ava Rose said...

I don't know if it's me but occassionally, I'll check out the "ugly gosselin" videos on youtube to read new comments. Most of them are people who have never watched the show and their opinions are "shock" and "disguist" towards kate. I've noticed in the past week, all the kate lovers are marking all their comments w. a thumbs down haha GEEZ TLC must be working OVERTIME!

dontgetittwisted said...

How many more times is Kate Gosselin going to 'set the record straight' about HER life. Havent we heard this same old song and dance from Kate time and time again? If Kate Gosselin feels so confident that she is doing ALL and EVERYTHING in the best interest of her children, who cares what the public thinks? Why doesnt she just go and live her life of gas pumping, drive way picnics, pedicure and tanning appointments, and the weekly errand running to Kinkos and call it a day? Is it REALLY necessary to make these repeated appeals to the public via the media in an attempt to 'set the record' straight? At the end of the day, does it really 'set the record' straight OR merely fuel more attention on to her family? IMO, Kate doesnt appear a woman determined to 'set the record' straight; quite the opposite. She appears a woman DESPERATE !!!

fidosmommy said...

dontgetittwisted said...
How many more times is Kate Gosselin going to 'set the record straight' about HER life. Havent we heard this same old song and dance from Kate time and time again?

*****

Thank you for an excellent post (which I truncated for space.)

I have come to realize that the more people have to try to convince you that their life is grand or the more they try to set you straight about something, the more they are trying to conceal.

As a general rule, people who are truly content with their lives don't feel the need to validate their lives to anybody. They feel comfortable enough in their skins to just live their lives. Kate, on the other hand, needs to "prove"
that her life is just fine and her kids' lives are just fine.

"Methinks she doth protest too much", saith Shakespere.

MayDay said...

Went to Larry King website to once again offer my opinion on Kate Gosselin being a guest. This is what I saw:

Should children be allowed on reality TV shows?
Yes 14%
No 86%
This is not a scientific poll
I urge everyone to go and participate in the poll. I am sure it will not change the Gosselin fate but maybe Larry will announce the results.

Kannie said...

If there is a book DO NOT buy it. Take it out of your local library instead!!!

Don't support Brand Gosselin with a book purchase.

WhatsTheRealPlan?... said...

Tell It All! said...
HawaiiMom said...
If Jon wrote a book, wouldn't he be selling out his children? Two wrongs don't make a right. If Kate sells out her children on tv, then Jon writing a book about them is no better. I hope to god that there isn't a book. He should be ashamed if he's even considering it.

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IMO there is NOTHING Jon could say in a book that those poor little kids don't already know. I think, down the line, that it would provide them with some validation and might prove quite helpful when they all get into therapy (which they will, alas, need to do)

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IMO, Jon is so sleazy and trashy already. I agree with HawaiiMom that it would further hurt the kids they already have 4 seasons of embarrassment on the dvd and another that has been lived out in the tabloids(they are being more modest with what they show this year, prob b/c neither one of Kon is giving baths, brushing teeth, etc.)

These people are a joke I mean do they plan on dying or getting so wasted that they don't remember their own lives, like normal people. The TV show, the books it's too much. Take a couple of pictures a few videos, share great stories over holiday meals or Sunday dinner(like normal people) and the kids should get a great since of who they are and what their life was like. It's like they don't plan on living long enough to talk to the kids or they kinda know they won't be able to sustain this type of life style for long.

All that being said I'm so ashamed I would read the stupid book but, it really shouldn't be written in the first place. What kind of spin would be put on that, "I did it for my kids" won't work.

Techymum said...

Please see Paul Petersen's website regarding Nadya Sulmen, and his very blatant attack on TLC and the Gosselin parents.

http://www.minorcon.org/unseen_footage.html

Rach Here said...

Kannie said...
If there is a book DO NOT buy it. Take it out of your local library instead!!!

Don't support Brand Gosselin with a book purchase.

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That's if the local library will actually put it on their bookshelves.

bcsurvivor2001 said...

fidosmommy said...
dontgetittwisted said...
How many more times is Kate Gosselin going to 'set the record straight' about HER life. Havent we heard this same old song and dance from Kate time and time again?
*****
Thank you for an excellent post (which I truncated for space.)

I have come to realize that the more people have to try to convince you that their life is grand or the more they try to set you straight about something, the more they are trying to conceal.

As a general rule, people who are truly content with their lives don't feel the need to validate their lives to anybody. They feel comfortable enough in their skins to just live their lives. Kate, on the other hand, needs to "prove"
that her life is just fine and her kids' lives are just fine.

"Methinks she doth protest too much", saith Shakespere.
8/24/2009 3:32 PM
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Absolutely excellent posts. Very well put and so to the point and accurate. I do beleive that is what is probably irritating me the most about this family - is the "so in your face oversell". Enough already. Live your "crazy life" and enjoy the best you can.

I'd Talk Forever said...

I have come to realize that the more people have to try to convince you that their life is grand or the more they try to set you straight about something, the more they are trying to conceal.

As a general rule, people who are truly content with their lives don't feel the need to validate their lives to anybody. They feel comfortable enough in their skins to just live their lives. Kate, on the other hand, needs to "prove"
that her life is just fine and her kids' lives are just fine.

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Exactly. And doesn't that also hold true with the whole wedding vows renewal ceremony? If everything was right in their lives, why the strong need to reiterate the promise to the children that Mommy and Daddy would be together forever? If nothing's broke in a relationship, there is no need to make an attempt to reassure their children (and the viewing world) that they have a forever-after kind of love. Silence speaks volumes. Love shows itself quietly in every moment of every day.

stopthemadness said...

The votes on Larry King about whether kids should be on reality tv are overwhelmingly, NO.


I hope someone asks why no one in the family has spoken out to deny what Kevin and Jodi had said, and why no one who knows them, family or friends, is supporting them at all in the media.

More chance for eye dabbing and victimhood I suppose.

Kathryn said...

My prediction is that Larry King will kiss Khate's butt, just like all the other TV hosts do.....
she'll have her unibang obscuring one eye as she so innocently peeks out at Larry. She will occassionally spurt a tear or two, accept a tissue and delicately dab her eyes. She'll barely speak above a whisper and use the word "transpire" a few times. Probably she'll use the term 'forge ahead' as well. In the end, she'll tell the world that everything she does is 'for my children' and Larry will look amazed and awestruck. She will act like a diva with a stick up her butt and Larry King will treat her as such. She has a disgusting way about her that makes ordinary folk, and even NOT so ordinary folk, take notice. And for the life of me I just can't understand WHY, considering she has no talent and isn't even that great looking. Go figure...

grannyoftwo said...

just heard on tv there is a hilarious pic out there of Jon pouring lemonade at some kind of fundraiser , where he is standing behind a sign with J&K + 8 and TLC all over it, but the hilarious part was that on Jon's shirt it says lies, lies, lies. Funny stuff Jon. He will talk one way or another. Don't underestimate the guy!

JMHO said...

As someone said earlier there are a new crop of interns in at TLC since the new school year has started. They are working overtime leaving glowing comments on all things Kate.

With Michael Jackson's death now being ruled homicide, he is once again knocking Kate from the headlines. This is the man who shielded his kids from the spotlight. From the grave he's now working to shield the 8.

kgirl0321 said...

My email to Larry King:

When is Kate Gosselin going to stop pretending that she is not exploiting her children by having them on a reality show without their consent? When is she going to stop pretrending that everything she does is "for her kids?" Does she worry that her kids will sue her when they get older? Why did she renew her wedding vows in Hawaii with Jon knowing that the marriage was coming to an end? How does she justify taking love offerings at churches even as she and Jon purchased a million dollar home on 25 acres of land in Pennsylvania? Did she even really have PCOS? Why have all her family members turned their backs on her? Why does she never credit Beth Carson as the true author of Multiple Blessings?

Why open up about her PRIVATE pain on television if she WANTS to keep it private? Kate Gosselin serves no one but herself. And to market her as a "single mother" is insulting to mothers everywhere.

stopthemadness said...

I also sent Larry a question about whether Kate had a plan B - she has undertaken a number of highly risky decisions as relates to her family, starting with getting pregnant with 8 embryos, or 8 follicles ready to launch- when you already have twins and one flaky underemployed husband, and then to up their lifestyle to this lavish level, counting on this show - when it's up in the air if the show will go on. reality shows are flash in the pan, and if the judge or CPS or state of PA decides those kids shouldn't work, there goes the income that supports the hundreds of thousands of dollars Kate supposedly spends on the house, taxes, schools, etc.

It is such a risky behavior, to put all eggs in the Jon & Kate plus 8 basket -given the shape of the marriage ...

but then, if the kids are really "working" then it shouldn't make much difference if they can't continue to. It doesn't take much cleverness to be filmed - even an infant can pull that trick off. The real challenge for Kate is in now taking that celebrity and using it to get HERSELF some kind of job that doesn't rely on the trained seals getting out there and doing their tricks while she mugs for the camera and ignores her kids' needs.

If Kate has no Plan B she had no business creating a lifestyle she cannot afford without her kids working. She and they are hostage to her greed and therefore to TLC production schedule.

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What if said...

I just had the strangest thought Jane and Khate can both still have kids...What a mess that would be. Talk about a nightmare!!

Sassypaws said...

I just sent the following email to TLC:

"Please, PLEASE take Jon & Kate Plus Eight off the air!!!

I have developed a severe case KATE RAGE and cannot tolerate even a glimpse of her! Therefore, I have been forced to block the TLC channel from my TVs so that I won't accidentally catch sight of her. Seriously, I see her and my BP raises 10 points!

Granted Jon is a bit of a douchebag but Kate is a major narcissistic shrew!! I can't risk watching anything on your channel for fear of seeing a promo showing her. It's just not healthy!

I miss being able to watch shows like “Little People/Big World”, “What Not to Wear”, and “The Duggars” (I forget how many kids they have since I haven’t been able to watch it for a while). I have also heard that you have a new show about a cake bakery that is pretty good but, again, I can’t risk watching for fear of seeing Kate.

It’s time to cancel Jon and Kate Plus Eight. Give the kids their privacy and clean the airwaves of the Xanthippe known as Kate Gosselin!"

Bet I don't get a response from TLC!!

Closerfan said...

TLC can edit Kate's bad moments all they want to..it's all preserved on YouTube for everyone to see.

Dunwoody Mom said...

I'm still laughing at Kate wants to "set the record straight". The woman has been all over the media with her sob story that no one believes. She has even gotten TLC to muzzle Jon so she cannot tell his side of the story.

At this point, no one but the sheeple believe anything that comes out of Kate Gosselin's mouth. Both Kate and her PR are fighting a losing battle. It's fun watching Kate go down,though.

Marianne said...

Don't know if this has been posted yet, but here is a link to a wonderful article describing how pathetic the whole situation has become. Enjoy:

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2009/08/kate_gosselin_larry_king_tlc_j.html

MBach said...

Sending a letter to The Lying Channel is great, and I would say keep them coming. However, what you get as a response is the same canned -thanks for your letter, we appreciate your comments - GARBAGE every time. Over the last year I have sent hundreds of letters to sponsors, TLC, event locations, interviewers, and more. Most will respond to your letters, and I am sure that Sassypaws will get a response. However, usually the most you will receive is an excuse as why they advertised on J&K+8 like -we have no control over the program selected to display our "product", as that is determined by the demographic of the target audience -again I say GARBAGE!

Just keep your letter short and polite. Let them know that you are a part of their target audience, as that means women age 25-40, usually with kids. Tell them you WILL NOT WATCH J&K+8, but you have information that their company advertised on the show or that the kids were used to demonstrate their product. Say you will not buy the products used to support the Gosselin lifestyle, and why. You could list many facts, but keep it as simple as possible.

It might feel like why keep trying, but it is all we can do. TLC and Discovery will not stop this show until viewers fall off to a point it no longer sells commercials.

Even with ratings down, the amount paid to J&K up, and many people telling them to end the show; the bottom line is how much money can TLC make from this farce of family life. This type of programing is the cheapest way to fill in tv time. No script, no extra shots, no costumes, no sets, just film, edit, and count the money as it piles up. With J&K+8 there is lots of wasted film (maybe not so much now that Jon and kate/Hate are not filmed together), but still cheap to produce. The kids can be made to say lines, do a bit over and over to suit the camera crew, but the public doesn't get to see that.

Please don't give up. Keep the letters going to all areas supporting this terrible excuse for entertainment. DON'T WATCH THE SHOW. Keep thinking it must end. Keep positive, because I truly believe it will happen. Don't you?

luvbooks7 said...

I saw this article regarding ratings on nydailynews...

Brooke Tarnoff, an editor for AOL's PopEater blog who tracks the Gosselins, says any story they post about the divorcing duo generates thousands of clicks, and she doesn't see the phenomenon dying down any time soon.

"You can't put a price on that kind of publicity that puts the TLC name in the press every day," said Tarnoff. "As long as the publicity is strong and people are still interested - whether they're just craning their necks to look at the train wreck or have a genuine fascination - TLC has success on its hands."

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2009/08/20/2009-08-20_jon_and_kate_gosselin_separating_from_plus_8_viewers_ditching_tlc_show_in_wake_o.html

MayDay said...

I was over at Ebay buying books and looking for the Duggar book. One hit came up for Multiple Blessings, a copy that was signed by Kate. The seller wants $99.95 for it. I emailed her and asked if the price was in error, did she mean $9.95? Nope,that is what the seller is trying to get. My daughter gave me Multiple Blessings for Mother's Day. She thought she was buying me something that I would like and I would NEVER hurt her feelings,so I read it. In my opinion that book is not worth the paper it is printed on. Someone else is making money off the G-kids.

Allicat said...

Two comments: First, I drove passed the Konpound and Jon was out talking to fans. I stopped, shook his hand and moved on. I still believe he is the "better" parent of the two. I don't agree with some of his choices but I do think the kids are better off with him than her.
Second, I am in one of the local public libraries close to their house, and their book is always on the shelf! No one takes it out. They are not news around here. People do want to see the house and do drive passed, but they really aren't that big of a deal around here.

dr said...

Jon and Kate are pathologic liars. They will say anything to make a buck. So many times their lies don't have consistency and they don't even remember what they said.

This show just proves that nothing is real on TV. You just can't take TV shows seriously.

Starz said...

Kates next move will be taking the kids out of school for "their own safety".She will have them home-schooled.

Ohio Buckeye said...

kgirl0321 said...
"...Why open up about her PRIVATE pain on television if she WANTS to keep it private? Kate Gosselin serves no one but herself. And to market her as a "single mother" is insulting to mothers everywhere."

Well said!

WHY do J&K continue complaining about their oh-so-difficult life in the spotlight and resultant stress from the hounding photographers, yet all the while continue to sign extensions on their TLC contracts and never miss an opportunity to speak out on TV or appear as a magazine cover story? Where's the logic?

When will TLC get it that no matter how many times K8 "clears the record" about her life, we are not buying it? As another post here said, K8 in all her rage&fury&abuse glory is right there for all to see on You Tube. Again, someone needs to resend TLC (and K8) the 'Lipstick on a Pig' memo.

Other posters have also accurately predicted tonight's schtick: more little girl voice, another tears-&-tissues cue but following up with her new and improved "Can Do Kate" act. More of how they 'can't go back' to a normal life (of course they can if they wanted to). Just how DUMB do they believe viewers are anyway???


Yeah, yeah, yeah, K8, everything you do is for your children. You cry.. what's today's version: you gave yourself that half day to cry and then courageously moved on or are we in the 'I cry every day. In airports. Incognito.? Better consult your PR rep for today's script.

TLC/Jon/Kate: Spare us. We don't want to hear it. Jon, get a real job and K8 get some serious and long-term psych counselling. Your 15 minutes were up awhile ago, and we all wish you would just fade back into PA oblivion where you came from and belong. (Though PA deserves better than the whole J&K circus in their state.)

konGOaway said...

Just got back from my local Walmart superstore. As I passed the children's section, there was a rack of Healthtex clothing so I stopped to take a look. The clothing with bright purple tags has a secondary tag with a picture of "america's busiest Mom". You can log into www.kate.com and enter your email address to receive personal emails from Kate. This store is in a pretty high end area of Tampa - so much for delaying the release of the line to settle personal problems.

fidosmommy said...

I was over at Ebay buying books and looking for the Duggar book. One hit came up for Multiple Blessings, a copy that was signed by Kate. The seller wants $99.95 for it.

*****

So, Kate's signature is now worth
$99.95? The book itself is worth $0, so that must be it.

Maybe she can just sell her signature on Ebay. At least she could stay home with the kids and stop selling her kids' pictures for $20 a pop.

MayDay said...

Has anyone seen the sneek preview on Larry King's site? Kate is has a gun in her hand and has it targeted on something.
I do not know what is happening in this scene but I am getting quite concerned that last week's episode showed guns on the battleship and now next week's show guns on the horse ranch. Something is wrong here, why is TLC focusing in on guns all of a sudden. I will not allow my family to watch this...guns are not a part of family viewing in our house. This is sending the wrong message to young people who watch the show.

Im_in_PR said...

Yeah, yeah, yeah, K8, everything you do is for your children. You cry.. what's today's version: you gave yourself that half day to cry and then courageously moved on or are we in the 'I cry every day. In airports. Incognito.?
Better consult your PR rep for today's script.

Kate needs a serious refund from her PR agency.

Even with Jon acting the fool every chance he gets, Kate Gosselin is still the woman America loves to hate.

Cold, hateful mothers like Kate are "un-rehabilitable."

atowers89 said...

So I have been watching Kate on Larry King live and I can't seem to understand why they booked her on this show. Everything Larry asks her she "cannot comment" on and she has the audacity to pause with a glib smile when Larry asks her if she thinks Jon is a good father! But she's so concerned about protecting her children, bull. She's concerned about them when she doesn't want to answer a question. She surely isn't hiding the fact that she wishes she could rip Jon's head off. But why are these shows like Today, Regis, and Larry booking her when she can't answer anything without "harming" the children or she just claims that she simply does not know the answer?! UGH cancel this show TLC. I hate to admit that I too watch the new episodes to see what happens but I'm reaching my wits end with this woman. Just follow Jon around, he seems to be the more functional and normal than this freakazoid reverse mullet woman. She wants to go back and be a nurse? Well go ahead, struggle like the rest of America is right now, have the economy and the health crisis directly effect your employment and learn what real stress is, and its not when your manicurist picks the wrong shade, or Steve is late for a date. Get real woman, and grow up. Thanks for reading, GWOP I just really needed to vent.

Im_in_PR said...

Wow- Larry asked Kate point blank who asked for the divorce first and Kate BLANKED.

She refused to answer and said "it just fell out" or some lame statement.

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

Check out the new pictures of Kate on justjared.com. She is holding her hands up telling photographers to stop taking pictures of her. But isn't that what Kate rally wants? Kate has lost it. Of course there is Steve her bodyguard there with her, but it doesn't look like Steve is helping her at all. He's walking behind her.

kateispathetic said...

Larry King said Jon was asked to appear with Kate during the interview and denied the request. Of course he did! He sat next to that bit** for 5 seasons as she told HER version of THEIR life, why would he want to share a platform with Kate where the described purpose was for HER to 'set the record straight'. If I recall correctly, the last and only time Jon attempted to 'set the record ' straight TLC put the KABASH to that idea. The only reason Kate is given any air time to set the record straight is because 'setting the record straight' = hey everyone watch the J & K + 8 show on TLC.

blanket said...

there was a rack of Healthtex clothing so I stopped to take a look. The clothing with bright purple tags has a secondary tag with a picture of "america's busiest Mom".


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The tag should say "America's busiest stage mom."

She is busy for going shopping, sleeping with her bodyguard, getting her nails done, going to hair salon, going to tanning salon, and anything else that doesn't involve taking care of her children.

Having a picnic in front of your house to let paps take pictures doesn't make you a mom. It's staged and fake. If you pay attention to what the kids are eating during the picnic on the grass, there's not much food there. I remember there is one picnic photos, they all sit on a blanket with no food except drinks. That's funny. I bet the kids are really confused "why do we have to all sit together on the blanket doing nothing?"

zoey said...

So, can someone fill me in on why kate was on Larry King?
i didnt watch... was there an announcement of some sort? was she promoting something (other than herself)
what was the deal?

QVC-Freak said...

Not sure if this was already posted, but the 8 are revolting!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32555385/ns/entertainment-gossip/

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

OVC-Freak,
Great article. We can all tell by the looks on those kids faces that they are not happy. Someone needs to do something about ending this show and really soon.

Geri said...

QVC-Freak said...
Not sure if this was already posted, but the 8 are revolting!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32555385/ns/entertainment-gossip/

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Go Gosselin 8!! Woohoo!!!

fidosmommy said...

I'll be happy to paint protest signs for the kids.

"TLC = Tired Little Children"
"TLC = Their Lost Childhoods"
"TLC = Too Little Compassion"
"TLC = Those Lousy Cameras"
"TLC = Therapy Looks Certain"

yeaisaidthat said...

I will use the infamous words of my father to describe Kate's interview on Larry King Live.

She's about as useless as tits on a frog!!!

mom-of-one said...

I know several GWoP'ers have posted this link, but check the comments.....and the answers from the reporter/blogger. the gig is up...

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2009/08/kate_gosselin_larry_king_tlc_j.html

bowtiejess said...

You know, I'm sure that more and more people are tiring of the great Kate woe is me stage act. Even those that at one time found poor-me-gimme-gimme Kate appealing, either for the lies about her "mothering" skills or for the trainwreck appeal.
Between the death of Senator Kennedy, the continuing coverage of Michael Jackson's death and the investigation and the Chris Brown sentencing I think Kate's PR team is gonna have to get mighty desperate.
I think the passing of Senator Kennedy, in particular is sure gonna divert attention for a while, and, you know, Monday is a new episode....
My prediction?? Khate decked out in a short black mini, a cleavage baring black top, a ridiculous hat and some mighty tall shoes, doing her "crying" act at Senator Kennedy's funeral...ratings people, RATINGS!!!

solis said...

I saw a preview of the future episode. Jon is fulling around by wearing Kate's dress and hat, the kids are laughing.

To be honest, Jon is much better TV than Kate, Kate demeans everybody including her own children. Kate makes me so uncomfortable and irritated, I change the channel whenever I see her on TV.

If TLC wants to fire Jon, good luck! Kate is not good TV. I think they know Jon is better TV but they have to side with Kate to get her permission selling the kids' privacy.

If the show gets canceled, Jon might be able to carry his own show by doing Kate's impersonation. I will watch and get a good laugh. Kate doesn't have any talent to be on TV except using her children to be in front of camera.

Roxanne said...

Looks like the Gosselins just got bumped again. Senator Edward Kennedy passed away this evening. I was going to watch the LKL interview at 3:00 a.m. and it wasn't on. Live coverage at the Kennedy home/compound instead. What stunt will they try to pull now?

ihatethisshow said...

fidosmommy said...

I'll be happy to paint protest signs for the kids.

"TLC = Tired Little Children"
"TLC = Their Lost Childhoods"
"TLC = Too Little Compassion"
"TLC = Those Lousy Cameras"
"TLC = Therapy Looks Certain"
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brilliant.APPLAUSE!!!

Techymum said...

I'm torn about Kate being on the view.

I don't like her "view" of anything.

However, it is a job, and presumably she would not be dragging her 8 children in to the studio. She would have to get by on her own wits (read, would not last long).

So I'm thinking we can't have it both ways - if we want the kids off tv, we have to allow the parents to get a job.

Like I said, torn...

Jessica said...

I just read that they are using Kate to fill in as guest panelist on The View? Oh lordy be! Good thing I can't stand The Puke already.

jen said...

kate is going to cohost the view!
omg!

DoneAndDone said...

I think that this week marks my official J&K breaking point. I am no longer clicking on the various Radar, JustJared, etc., etc., links and photos. For awhile there, I was clicking and viewing each and every piece, but I simply cannot bring them into my daily life anymore. (I have plenty of other--MUCH more important--things in the world to get worked up over!)

Throughout this entire transition from likeable show to monstrosity, it has become a train gaining incredible speed towards a massive wreck. At first, the train was moving slowly enough for lots of people (the friends and extended family members of those poor kids AND complete--yet concerned--strangers like us) to openly and vehemently send out warnings. "This isn't going to be good...why don't you slow down? Or stop?" Only that didn't work. Instead, the train picked up speed and has since put those kids in more and more perilous circumstances. All along the way, though, people continued to shout, "Stop! Stop! Can't you see you're going to crash??" No such luck. At this point, it's completely off the tracks and yet somehow still barrelling forward, with its two ridiculous conductors showing no signs of slowing.

I know they make all of us sick, but I encourage everyone to resist the urge to buy into any of the gossip-y story bits that by consumption tell these two crazies that we care about THEM or think THEY are important. (We don't care that Kate has a new pair of shoes every other day of the week because we're jealous or think she's cool for wearing wedges. We care because of whose money she bought them with and WHY she wears them--for PERSONAL attention.)

We all know which Gosselins are important in this situation, and they're not Jon or Kate. Try not to fall for the diversions of where she works out or who he goes shopping with. As others have commented before, the minutia just distract from the still-increasingly-urgent concern for those kids! They're who we're all in this for.

Liv's Mommy said...

the 8 are revolting!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32555385/ns/entertainment-gossip/

If this is true - Jon is now calling what the children are doing - WORK!
I thought it was just them living their normal lives. What normal children in America ages 5 & 8 Work?

NotReadyForHerCloseup said...

3rd Rock From The Sun said...
Check out the new pictures of Kate on justjared.com. She is holding her hands up telling photographers to stop taking pictures of her. But isn't that what Kate rally wants? Kate has lost it. Of course there is Steve her bodyguard there with her, but it doesn't look like Steve is helping her at all. He's walking behind her.

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Exactly! If he were really her bodyguard, he'd be walking in front of her, blocking the photogs view, and pushing them out of the way.

Doesn't want her photo taken my a$$. Yes, because we all know the paparazzi wait around empty parking garages in random Century City office buildings waiting for Z-list celebrities to show up. Who tipped them off this time, Kate?

LP said...

Khate will fail miserably on the View. She is not quick witted enough to keep up her end of the conversations. She'll either be too loud or she'll sit there with an insipid look on her face. She is not going to be able to discuss all things Khate and everything will not revolve around her. If it is for a ratings boost for the View, their ratings would go through the roof if they asked Khate the questions that everyone wants ansers to. I think that Khate will show just how dull she really is and this may just cost her the hosting job that she's hoping for.

Kathryn said...

I hate the View anyway so it's an ideal place for her imo

I_should_be_working said...

I just read through the 8 pages of comments on the View's message board regarding Kate co-hosting and not a single positive one. 99% said they will not watch the View with Kate as a co-host and some will never watch the show again. One or two said they will watch just to see how horrible Kate is and whether or not Joy can hold her tongue. I doubt her appearance can be cancelled at this point. Let's hope the audience is full of smart people who let Kate know how we really feel about her.

Aunty K.K. said...

I wish I lived near the "taping of the VIEW" as I would get a protest going outside the building!

I'd get signs made, with all sorts of different quotes, and get as many people as I could, and advertize that I was doing this, and go and protest for the two days.

Someone, somehow has GOT to get this lady off the air, to end the craziness of the media..to help the children!!

GOD BLESS these children,.....someone needs to help them from their own mother!

ANYONE in the area ABLE TO PROTEST????????????????

bb said...

Kate on The View? I see the networks are doing favors for each other. They are helping promoting each other's show whether there is a moral issue or not.

I didn't watch her on Larry King. I didn't watch Jon and Kate rerun. I just can't stand looking at her.

I didn't click the links about Kate online either because I just don't care. It's just bunch of PR stunts and spins. I already know what they are trying to say - Jon bad, Kate victim (who is going to believe that? She has degraded him for 10 years and still doing it with PR staff and TLC's help), Kate disses Jon, Jon disses Kate, picnic, another picnic, tanning, hair, nail, teeth whitening, shopping. Why don't you just kill me?

If I have to be associated with those people, I will get mental illness.

school boy said...

Why didn't Kate buy milk at regular price for the sextuplets but let Kate and Mady go to private school? She only bought milk when it's on sale, so she said.

Milk is essential for kids' physical development. If you can afford private school, you can afford milk. Her value of money is so strange to me.

Is private school cheaper in PA? I don't know about PA. Private school is really pricey in California. I haven't found a cheap one.

rachael said...

Does anyone live in New York want to protest outside The View studio on the day of Kate's taping?

There should be signs like "stage mom", "TLC and Kate are exploiting children", "stop wearing your daughter's clothes"

bbeau said...

"Kate on the View" .... What am I going to do? She's starting to invade my favourite shows. Next thing you know she'll be on Greys Anatomy. I already can't watch TLC, now it will be the major networks. What's wrong with these people putting her on their show? publicity maybe?
I know they had Paris Hilton as a cohost before. That was Barbara Walters idea I'm sure (she friends with Paris's mother). She was so lame it was painful to watch. During the lively debate they had (mostly about politics) she did not utter a word. Twenty minutes or so, and not one opinion. I got the feeling everything was waaay over her heard.... she looked like a dear in headlights.
If Kate cohosts, it could be quite revealing. You know the other cohosts quite well, because they are very opinionated and very HONEST. Love them or hate them, you know where they stand. We'll see about Kate... maybe she'll do a Paris.

Andrea Murdock said...

We get to hear Kate "um" her way through two full view episodes. Count me out please. ;)

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

I couldn't believe what I was reading. Kate on the View. Please someone, give me a break. Kate doesn't even fit in with those women. I bet she makes a fool of herself. I sure hope that Kate doesn't show up on Desperate Housewives next.

Kim said...

I'm a first time poster on this site, but I've been reading for a long time. This is our time to mobilize people! there are now 11 pages of dissenting comments on the view's message board. Keep them coming! I registered just to post. It takes two seconds to register and it is so worth it.

Ohio Buckeye said...

It is so lame that interviewers (like Larry King) ask K8 questions like, 'Do you think Jon is a good father?' Anyone who has watched ten minutes of "J&K+8" has observed K8's ongoing attitude and treatment of Jon and realizes that no matter what Jon ever did, his efforts never even came close to measuring up to Almighty K8's supoosed standards. He caught H no matter what he did or didn't do and was constantly criticized, belittled, demeaned,& emasculated. In K8's eyes, the ONLY person who measures up to her standards is K8! The woman has delusions of grandeur IMO.

Lamer still is K8's implying she was taking the high road by not giving a direct and negative answer, but, instead, using her demeanor to convey her disdain for Jon in general as well as specifically Jon's parenting. Can we all spell 'passive aggressive'?

Jon's not exactly been at his best over these last months, but truth is, even when he was K8's obedient whipping boy of a husband, she STILL made sure to treat him like a dimwitted child.

WHO CARES what K8's opinion is on anything?? Not this viewer. Hers is certainly not an opinion I could ever value.

Ohio Buckeye said...

K8 on The View - yegods, just when I thought that show had the market cornered on loud, pushy women (with the exception of Whoopi) who attempt to control every conversation.

If Elisabeth is there, she will kiss K8's fanny for K8's antiabortion stand - preferring to risk the entire litter to ensuring one or two healthy babies via selective reduction or implanting fewer embryos.

I'll not be watching, as The View is not my cup of tea.

We can only wonder what K8's PR agents have on the horizon...Kate as a Roller Derby Queen or taking on Tonya Harding in a boxing match? They could put her on Survivor, but then they'd have to fight the obvious litigation problems when, within the first 24 hours of being stranded with the likes of K8, her team desperately fashioned some kind of muzzling device to silence K8's constant complaining and criticizing.

lukebandit said...

i was at dialysis today and came across the show when kate says to jon your not making progress, he was changing their diapers and getting them dressed. she is a psycho! there are no pictures, decorations or anything for a child on the walls. it looks like a sterile environment like a warehouse for orphans. she said so many crazy things in that show, it was making me sick to my stomach. i want her to go on the view, because i want the women on there chew her up and spit her out.
ohio buckeye said that no one measures up to kate, yes ohio there is and his name is steve.
when LKL asked her who wanted out first, she said, it just fell out. what a lame liar she is. she started having an affair with steve and she went to jon and said it's over and sign this non disclosure contract you can have all the girls you want, just show up for filming.
your day is coming kate.
maybe Elizabeth will ask her if she is going to church. i would love to hear her answer.
example answer: no, i do all my fed ex, kinko, starbucks and mani-pedi's on sunday, sorry.

lukebandit

Bored Teen said...

WTF?

Kate said concerning the baby sitter "Her with her own child and my 8? No Way" ....Or something like that.

Ohh but it was just fine to leave her very sick 8 children while Aunt Jodi had her own 4 to tend to!

Kate really really burns me up!

Frequent Poster said...

Actually Elizabeth doesn't find favor with Kate. She has stated on The View that the kids need to be taken off camera and that they didn't even give their consent. I DON'T like Elizabeth but oh how I wish she were on the panal this time to give Kate a piece of her mind.......

Kari said...

You know, I was watching Clark Howard the other day and he was interviewing professional sport players and talking about how approximately 60% of pro sports players go bankrupt within 5 years after they retire. This is primarily because they spend their money more quickly than they can sustain it, and do not save. According to Clark, they should savd about half of what they make while making the big dollars.

What about Jon and Kate Gosselin? They have made a small fortune in the last few years, but they have also been spending a large sum of money. The show can't last forever. I think we can compare then to sports players, and expect a bankruptcy within the next few years. Especially after they split the money.

I feel terrible for the kids. They are not going to see a penny of what they have been forced to earn, and I fear will live a life of financial hardship later.

konGOaway said...

rachael said...
Does anyone live in New York want to protest outside The View studio on the day of Kate's taping?

There should be signs like "stage mom", "TLC and Kate are exploiting children", "stop wearing your daughter's clothes"

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If you are going to protest, don't forget to call TMZ or ROL so they can get pictures!!!

I'd Talk Forever said...

Why didn't Kate buy milk at regular price for the sextuplets but let Kate and Mady go to private school? She only bought milk when it's on sale, so she said.

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Regulation of milk prices in Pennsylvania is such that milk never goes "on sale." That's what is really funny about her statement.

Tangerine Tanya said...

Today I came home and my 21 year old son was feverish etc....

I cancelled my evening plans so that I could tend to him.

The home remedies and ALOT of T.L.C
(Oops I can't believe that I typed those horrible letters)worked wonders.

There was NO WAY that I could leave him sick like that and he is 21 years old! My heart hurt for him as I'm sure that many other parents or caretakers would understand when their child is ill despite the age.

But we all know that Kate and yes Jon too didn't have a problem leaving their 8 young and very sick children with Aunt Jodi while they flew to California to have a hair transplant procedure for Jon.

I am still shaking my head at that one.

Glam up a NUT? said...

I just saw on a commercial that People magazines new issue, shows a "glamorized Kate" New high style clothing, and a "NEW" slicked back hairdo with no bangs, just combed straight back. She is wearing expensive jewelry and has that sinister fake smile on, and a TON of makeup. You could see they are trying to give her the "Sharon Stone" look. Boy, what's up with People mag.? They said "we wanted to glam her up."

Tuesday said...

Tangerine T, we've been there. Doesn't matter how old they are does it? Sometimes just being home with mom and dad does wonders. You sound like a great mom! Three times already some of these simple, just a fever things, have resulted in e.r. visits for us. I'm guessing the G's are used to comforting from so many others. It's too bad their mother never established a close bond with them, imo.

gossip girl said...

"Kate said concerning the baby sitter "Her with her own child and my 8? No Way" ....Or something like that.

Ohh but it was just fine to leave her very sick 8 children while Aunt Jodi had her own 4 to tend to!"

It's because Kate looks down on the babysitter. She doesn't want her kids to make friends with poor people like the babysitter's kid. She wants her kids to only social with people they can use. Kate Gosselin is a social climber. She will do anything to mingle with the wealthy crowd and it starts with her children.

TLC is The Lame Channel said...

In much older episodes, Jon and Kate occasionally drink Starbucks or there's Starbucks paper cup sitting on the kitchen counter top. That was the old days she was crying poor and talking about coupons and saving money.

One cup of Starbucks is enough to buy milk for the kids. They never changed. They have always just thought for themselves first. If I worry about every dollar and put my kids first as Kate said she did, I would save Starbucks trips for milk.

Unless she made TLC producer pay for her Starbucks. Imagine that. "Jenny! Treat me some Starbucks before you get here or I will not let you in my house".

Seriously, I don't know which one is worse. Go cheap on your kids' milk or your producer.

verbal abuse is an abuse said...

Some of the daughters start to talk like Kate, it makes me cringe. It won't be long before the kids start to verbal abuse each other like Kate did to their dad.

Jacqueline said...

@Tangerine Tonya:
It sounds like you're a great mother. My mom has been (and still is) an ICU nurse for more than 20 years. She works full time. I'm 22 and when I get super sick (not a cold but a fever) she either calls in sick to STILL want to take care of me or call every hour from work to see if I'm okay. She's taught us what to do, what to drink, what to eat, and what meds to talk, how many, etc... but she still checks up on my sister and I CONSTANTLY.

I don't know how Kate does it. Her children are BABIES! Wouldn't you feel the need to protect and be around them more? My cousin has a baby girl that turned one and she cannot IMAGINE going out...even for a little hr, pedicure. I guess it's a just a mom instinct to always be around or find yourself to be closer to your kids. Katie Irene...just don't have it. She only cares about her kids for one reason...CHAAA CHIIINNNG!!!!

Ms.Peach said...

verbal abuse is an abuse said...
Some of the daughters start to talk like Kate, it makes me cringe. It won't be long before the kids start to verbal abuse each other like Kate did to their dad.

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They are talking not only like her but also have the attitude.

Tyra said...

It has always stumped me how Kate says she only buys milk when it is on sale? What? Those kids eat yogurt at all most every meal, which is way more expensive than milk. I swear...that woman is dumber than a box of rocks.

Hannah W said...

" Some of the daughters start to talk like Kate, it makes me cringe. It won't be long before the kids start to verbal abuse each other like Kate did to their dad. "
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Well from siblings that's a little bit different. Kids say mean stuff mean stuff to their siblings all the time, get over it in about two seconds and become friends again. No it's not right, but that's just what happens, kids are going to fight with their siblings. However, in the Gosselin house, who knows, they'll probably take it to a whole nother lever.

KC said...

I feel terrible for the kids. They are not going to see a penny of what they have been forced to earn, and I fear will live a life of financial hardship later.
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This really upsets me too. I 100% believe - based on gut instinct and, well, I'm not a mathemetician but the amount that they appear to be spending and the amount that they make do not leave enough cash behind for EIGHT 4 year tuition + textbooks + residence + expenses.... I don't believe that parents should have to pay for their child's education but this is these children's money plain and simple.

However these kids are not doomed to a life of "financial hardship" - they can do like regular people who don't come from money and take out loans to go to school, get a real job, etc. It sucks because their earned money is wasted but they are not doomed. Hopefully a nanny will instill some kind of work ethic and value system for education since they won't get that from their father and their mother won't ever be around either.

Jimmy said...

I don't know if this has already been posted--But I know there have been a lot of questions about splitting the sextuplets up in school--

From People Magazine re: the children going to school.

Although Jon and Kate Gosselin are in the middle of a public divorce, life must go on in the Gosselin household, which means their kids are heading back to school.

"They're all jazzed up about riding on the bus," Jon Gosselin says of his children. "I'm happy too, because now I don't have to drive them to school."

At the bus pickup point in a local parking lot, Jon and Kate arrived in separate cars around 7 a.m. Twins Cara and Mady, 9, rode with their mom, then ran to hug their dad before boarding. Kate walked onto the bus with them, stayed a couple minutes, then got off – as Jon remained in the parking lot, pacing and appearing to be texting on his phone.

While Mady and Cara were shipped off to the third grade Thursday, Friday will see the sextuplets start junior kindergarten, which is only three days a week, says Gosselin. "Next year will be kindergarten for the little kids, and it will be five days a week," he says.

Not All the Kids Are Prepared
Gosselin tells PEOPLE that 5-year-olds Hannah, Leah, Alexis, Joel, Aaden and Collin are not all ready for kindergarten yet because they were "preemies."

So, despite their same ages, when it comes to class assignments, "They'll definitely split them up by personality," says their father. "Alexis and Collin are definitely not going to be classmates."

While the twins are "definitely" the most excited to go back to class "because we live out in the
middle of nowhere and all their friends are close to school," Gosselin says their little brothers and sisters are not at all anxious about their first day of junior kindergarten.

"They use each other as a security blanket," he says. "So as long as they're all going, [they're not nervous]. If I would send like one, they'd probably freak out."

Take Paws said...

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20300521,00.html

Damage control I would say----


Jon Gosselin Never Said He Wants off the Show



Don't count Jon Gosselin out of the picture just yet.

Reports of his saying he's ready to withdraw from TLC's Jon & Kate Plus 8 are not only premature – they just aren't true.

"I never said that," Jon told PEOPLE while speaking outside his house on Wednesday. "A fan asked me, 'Don't you sometimes wish you could go back to a 9-to-5 job?' [And my reply was,] 'Yeah, because this is 24/7 and 9-to-5ers punch in and punch out and you have no responsibilities.' "

Pointing to the paparazzi collected outside his family home, Gosselin said, "Here … you have to watch what you say so it doesn't contradict something else."

He believes the story was the result of someone having "overheard something that was nothing."

Clearing up other misinformation, Gosselin said, "And the other one was that the kids didn't want to film anymore. No, they just didn't want to film that day."

That's easily explained, too. "It's 96 degrees outside and they just said they wanted to go in the pool. So guess what? They took their clothes off, put their swimsuits on and jumped in the pool ... I just looked at my producer and said, 'What are you going to do?' "

As for his literal fashion statement – being photographed in a T-shirt bearing the message, "Lies, Lies" – Gosselin says: "I just thought it was funny, because people can write anything about me ... How can you write something about me or say something about me without actually asking me?"

silimom said...

Regarding the Starbucks in the early days - most film
crews have catering services that come on site during filming days. I know GWOP commenters have stated several times that this was the case at the Gosselin's. So yes, in fact, TLC very likely was paying for their coffee in the early days as it was most likely part of the catering service.

I hate when I inadvertantly have to defend Jon or Kate. They are both such immature, self centered, narcissistic people. I can't say they're the only ones in the world - the Reality TV genre alone disproves that statement. It's just sad that their children have to suffer. It gets discouraging because it's never going to end for them, regardless of whether the show ends. These two dipsticks will always be their parents. Look at other celebrity kids and how messed up they are. Heck, look at regular kids who have parents like this - it's not relegated to only children of the rich and famous. I pray that they can rise above it someday.

Geri said...

gossip girl said...
"Kate said concerning the baby sitter "Her with her own child and my 8? No Way" ....Or something like that.

Ohh but it was just fine to leave her very sick 8 children while Aunt Jodi had her own 4 to tend to!"

It's because Kate looks down on the babysitter. She doesn't want her kids to make friends with poor people like the babysitter's kid. She wants her kids to only social with people they can use. Kate Gosselin is a social climber. She will do anything to mingle with the wealthy crowd and it starts with her children.

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I agree with you and also think Kate doesn't like to hire babysitters without getting a confidentiality agreement signed!

I'd Talk Forever said...

verbal abuse said:

Some of the daughters start to talk like Kate, it makes me cringe. It won't be long before the kids start to verbal abuse each other like Kate did to their dad.
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Showbiz last night reported that Kate (in People) stated she is worried about the effect that Jon's choices will have on her own daughters' choices and lives when they grow up. Shaking my head here. Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? Shouldn't she be equally worried (or more worried) about the fact that her children saw her treating their father disrespectfully, berating him, expecting him to respond to her every beck and call?

Friend said...

Yes I do agree that some of the daughters do act and talk like Kate. I don't know if I can mention her name.

I was watching David Letteman last night and his sidekick said "I wish Jon and Kate would leave the eight(ALONE)" ......

Also.....Can somebody PLEASE tell me why the new episode wasn't on this past Monday????

Thanks and I hope your day goes smooth.

ICExploitation said...

"Here … you have to watch what you say so it doesn't contradict something else."

Please correct me if I am wrong - but if you told the truth would there be a need to watch what you say?

K8TERH8TER said...

By the pic shown, it looks like the school bus pickup point is at the Reading Babies R Us store. Kate must be in heaven since that's the same shopping center where she shops...at Target. Guess she's making it a little easier for the P-people to find her. This circus just keeps getting sicker and sicker each day.

Why defend her? said...

I'm sorry, but I don't blame Kate one bit for not wanting that Stephanie chick around her kids. First off, I don't think Kate has ever even met her. Secondly, Jon's interaction with her started in a BAR. Third, you don't bring your own kid when you babysit, not if your expecting to be paid. That is a baby, with much larger demands than any of Kate's 8 would have.

And, to be frank, she looks trashy. I know, I know, that is so snobbish. And I know Kate has had some strange wardrobe moments recently. But it'strue, and most of you that would deny it here would think it in your head.

Also, please understand that trashy looking girls can be fine young women and babysitters, but both parents should be able to meet her before she is left alone with their kids. And what kind of respectable young woman, let ALONE babysitter, would A)spend the night with Jon in the garage apartment, and more simply B)wear such innapropriate clothing. She's not just a hot little 22 year old, she's a mom too.

Let's put it this way, I likely know just as much about Stephanie as Kate does, and I wouldn't let her watch my kids. Would you?

mullets r us said...

OMG....just saw the new people cover!! She looks like such a dumb*ss!!!! One earring????? When she's called out on that she'll just say that it's a high fashion statement she was making and that everyone wants to wear their earrings like that!!!! Good grief...you think someone would have pointed it out to her????

leeroy said...

Geri said...
gossip girl said...
"Kate said concerning the baby sitter "Her with her own child and my 8? No Way" ....Or something like that.

Ohh but it was just fine to leave her very sick 8 children while Aunt Jodi had her own 4 to tend to!"

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I would have to say that it is different when family is baby-sitting and they have their own children rather than some 23 year old girl who is sleeping with your husband who could probably care less about your kids and is only there for the wrong reasons...

SKB516 said...

So... what do you all think of Jon's reasoning for the tups not attending full-day kindergarten as simply "they were preemies"? I'm no expert on child development, but I've always heard that most preemies catch up by the time they're a year or so old. And if they don't, it means they have potentialy serious developmental issues that should be addressed. I know, people will say that maybe they do have issues & they have been addressed off camera, but I have my doubts about that. To me it almost seems as if J&K are still riding the "remember we had 6teeny tiny preemies at one time?!" train. I think the bottom line is she needs them at home for filming, and they are still trying to keep them young & "unique". I'd be interested to know whether 1)they actually do have any issues at all that would prevent them from going to kindergarten now, or 2)if it's true they aren't ready, but it has nothing to do with them being born premature (but more to do with the lifestyle they've had since they were born). I don't know, maybe I'm just being picky here, but the "oh they're preemies, that's why they aren't going to school yet" line isn't really ringing true with me.

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