Beach & Kitchen Reveal Recap

I must preface this recap of last night's episode by saying that this is the first J&K+8 episode I have watched since my last contribution to this site in March. When I told my (adult) children I was watching so I could write a recap, they both expressed amazement that the show was still on. "Aren't they getting a divorce?" Yes, they are, but they're still trying to keep the gravy train on track.

Kate starts off the episode by saying she is on her "stress relief beach vacation." I assume she says this so that we understand she is under a lot of stress what with she and Jon divorcing and she being a hard-working single mom and all. While she is de-stressing, Jon is 'supervising' the kitchen renovation in their new home. Really he just stands in the kitchen listening to the workmen for about thirty seconds. He tells us the kitchen was inadequate for ten people. Jon, count again. It's only nine. (continued)

Please give all thanks and credit to Moons in Leo who wrote the recap!

188 comments:

Moons in Leo said...

Kate is whipping up breakfast at the Bald Head Island, NC beach house. She is, get this, cooking sausage and bacon which is a big deal since the kids very rarely get meat with breakfast. I think since they're paying for it, Kate, you might want to give it to them more often, maybe once a month.

Then Kate says she had to eat two orders of bacon a day and got sick of it. Is this why the kids don't get any -- because she's sick of it? I miss why she had to eat all that bacon. One of the kids does too and asks her why. She needed the fat and calories. If she explained the reason why anyone would have to eat a double order of bacon every day, I didn't hear it. Was this when she was a kid or when she was pregnant? Or when she was hawking books at the Hog Farmers' Convention? Irrelevant, and she's probably making it up anyway. Let us move on.

I'm startled by a man's voice asking Jon questions. Is this the new producer? Anyway, Jon is definitely phoning this in. He's tanned, bloated, exhausted, sporting a goatee and mumbling for the most part. Maybe they make him show up to get his check?

There's a long shot of Kate kissing the bejesus out of Hannah. Yes, I double check to make sure it's the favored tup. Kate wants to make sure that Hannah will still love her even when she's a teenager. Hannah assures her mother she will always love her and Daddy. Hannah, Mommy doesn't care if you will always love Daddy. She's only interested in herself. Remember that for your first appointment with the therapist.

Kate is repeatedly playing her 'single mom' card. She must have a bunch of them up her baby-doll sleeves. She reminds us that last year they were on vacation together and now she has to get used to being the sole decision maker. Kate, you've always been the one who was calling the shots!

Now we're on the beach, probably so Kate can wear a black bikini, and that's when I notice that she's had breast augmentation surgery! I guess she found some doctor to give her implants after Hailey Glassman's daddy had the nerve to suggest she get a more supportive bra.

Collin repeatedly fills up his bucket and dumps water on his head. He's trying to de-sand himself, Kate tells us, and ends up with sand on his head! Ah, kids! They're so adorable.

Now it's time for the kids to paint each other with pudding! You might remember they did this last year when they were still *sniff* together. You wouldn't believe how many sheeple have mentioned the puddin' paintin' to Kate when they've shown up at book signings!

Well, guess what? No brushes! Nope and none to be had on Bald Head Island, because, well, it is an island. It's okay, Kate. It's not like they're painting the Sistine Chapel. They improvise with spoons and hands. Imagine that! And our girl, Kate, says she 'didn't care' that some chose to eat it rather than slap it on a sibling's body. Personally, the only time I enjoyed watching humans throw food at each other was in "Animal House," but that's just me.

Then for the first time, Kate issues orders that actually sound like Kate. "Don't touch the walls!" blah, blah, blah. Ashley, the mother's helper, is the one who actually cleans the kids off. Of course.

Oh, Lordy be, the minute hand on my clock is not moving. I've had less painful half hours in the dentist's chair.

Moons in Leo said...

Movin' on...

Mady does a 'pretend' commercial about a paper towel. I'm relieved knowing she's going to be able to support herself once this sham is over. Then there is some 'pretend performing' with Cara and one of the girl tups. Wow, I'm thinking if you tried to touch Cara, your hand would just go right through her! She's even more detached from the situation than her father.

Kate lets us know this is the second week of their vacation and they are going to the Serpentarium. They travel via public ferry. Imagine that! With the riff-raff! Kate has bargained with the paparazzi - they can have one shot of them and then they must leave them alone. She tells us it's a strange world. No, Kate. Your world is strange and you've made it that way. My world is just fine, thanks.

Kate's kids are so flexible, she tells us. They love to travel; they're adaptable. Yeah, well, they've had to be, Kate, because of the life you and Jon have given them.

The twins return to Pennsylvania during the second week of the "stress relief beach vacation" because it's the last week of school and they don't want to miss the picnic. What? They completely blew off a week of school and now they want 'in' for a picnic? Way to instill respect for education, Jon and Kate!

Jon is waiting for them when they get out of their limo. Man, he's been putting on the pounds! I'm guessing he's at least 30 lbs. overweight and wearing one of his Ed Hardy tee shirts that's been blurred. The girls are amazed to see that Daddy is wearing ... earrings!

For the first time in this episode, Jon's voice is raised above a mumble so he can lie to us and say that his brother pierced his ears for him when he was 15. Now he's decided to put earrings in the holes. Jon, sweetie, the holes would have closed up over the last 17 years if you'd never worn earrings. He assures us this is NOT A MID-LIFE CRISIS! He's only 32! Neither are his four tattoos that he probably got in the nursery immediately after his birth.

Back to the Serpentarium with Kate and the tups! Kate tells us she's expecting to see snakes pinned to boards and then in the next breath says they're alive and in their habitat. Well, not really, Kate. Most snakes don't have habitats surrounded by glass, but you wouldn't know that. You do know that you're "not comfortable here."

Moons in Leo said...

To show her kids that she's brave, she holds a big snake. There is much grimacing and faux squealing; the point being if she can touch a snake she can survive her divorce. I think.

The kids leave with toy snakes and everyone goes back to Pennsylvania. A few of the tups tell us what they liked best about their "stress relief beach vacation." Sand castles was a fave.

Am I the only one who is moderately concerned that just about everything the six children say has subtitles? Okay, maybe they're speaking too softly, but I really don't think that's the problem. I hope someone is keeping an eye on their development, but I highly doubt it.

A couple of the tups are happy to see Daddy and tell him so. Aaden pointedly doesn't smile or say anything. Oh, and we never see Kate and Jon in the same shot in case you were wondering.

What is Kate going to say when she sees her brand new kitchen cabinets? Will she be her typical ungrateful self? No, of course not, because her PR people have been reading her bad press.
The big 'reveal' is prefaced by Kate saying she was grouchy that morning. And how would that morning be different from any other? Carla called and asked if she'd like her to unpack and put everything away before Kate gets back, she tells us. Maybe Jon tells us too. I'm having trouble concentrating and I have spots in front of my eyes.

Kate walks in and says "Oh. Oh. Oh." She says it took her a little while to 'claim it.' "Women will know what I mean." Actually, no, Kate. I am a woman and I don't know what the hell you mean. Kate admits it probably looked like she was ungrateful, but she really wasn't. We see her walking around the kitchen, opening drawers and cabinets, saying it's 'awesome,' but you can tell she doesn't really mean it.

The kitchen island is so big you could sleep on it! And the sink is just what she wanted! Oh, Lordy be, by this time I'm as exhausted as Jon and I'm not even dating two women at a time.

tha squirrel watcha said...

Fab recap! Thanks for keeping up the fight. Yawning. Obviously didn't miss anything...

Homeschoolin' Mom said...

"Oh, Lordy be, by this time I'm as exhausted as Jon and I'm not even dating two women at a time."
******************************
LOL! Classic!

Love the recap! I'm on week 2 of no more watching.... and I don't miss it.

Jayley said...

Moons in Leo, "Actually, no, Kate I am a woman and I don't know what the hell you mean." Perfect Moons, insightful and right on target.

ItsAllYoursKate said...

I have never posted before, but I have been reading here for a long time. I have given it some thought and decided I am finished. I am finished watching Jon and Kate. I am finished wasting my Monday nights watching tv and becoming upset about it. I used to be a bigger fan of Jon's but I have given up on him. Kate,IMO, is spiraling out of control (has been for some time now) and I am ashamed I once said this was my favorite show. I will continue to pray for the kids and hope they turn out ok in life. Kate is NOT ever going to be happy. She is after fame and fortune and all of this has gone completely to her head. I do believe she is having an affair. If not with Steve, with someone. She cannot afford to make Jon look "too bad" at present because he is still a part of the show and I think TLC tells her what to say. So long, Kate, Jon, and TLC. You are probably ALL going to get what you deserve!

SeriouslySerious said...

Great re-cap (as always)...interesting that K8ee Irene is focusing in on all of the things that she hated/whined about in previous seasons (oh, that's right, they don't refer to their lives in seasons ~gag~)...i.e. snakes, camping, cooking (well, her version), etc...By the way, Frued would have a field day with K8ee and her snake issues ~hee-hee~.
Will this breakfast be in the new cookbook? I hope...anxiously waiting and smacking my lips for the sausage/bacon cooking tips.Yum-yum, ya'll!!

Anonymous said...

Hey Moons, I've watched Jon and Kate since it started. I really enjoyed the show until now. Got so tired of hearing Kate put Jon down. She treated him like a kid and its no wonder that he's involved with someone else. Who would want a relationship with someone who constantly puts Jon down. You've changed so much, Kate, Since you have all these other people to pick out your clothes and do everything for you, you feel you don't need Jon anymore.
All you think of is money, traveling and publishing books to make more money. What happened to caring for and raising your own kids. Now they are handed off to someone else to care for.
I used to get sick of you yelling, "Helllloo" to get his attention when you were out shopping together.
I haven't watched the show since you split up and I will never watch it again. I hope it gets cancelled. These poor kids deserve a mom who is there for them, not one who is always out making more money to buy more things. You can go back to nursing and Jon can get a job, instead of using the kids.

Joann in W.Va.

EyeStrain said...

I don't know what Kate means either. If any normal women walked into a FREE expensive kitchen after a FREE 2 week beach vacation they would be extremely happy. Your so called "bad mood" would be immediately lifted.


But is anyone else happy that Kate hates the kitchen? It pretty much looked the same as the old one but white.

OverwithKON~~ said...

PERFECT MOONS! Thank you! Did not watch, will not watch, but I couild see it through your description just like the horrid witch was in front of me. Good Job, cant stand the witch. ANOTHER FREEBIE that she is so unapprecitaive of. So boring........

Tami said...

This bucket dumping over the head thing mentioned, I recall in the pool during the campout episode he was drinking pool water out of a bucket as he also dumped that on himself. Is it healthy to drink pool water? Wonder what the fascination is with bucket dumping.

Joanne said...

From "you reap what you sow"

Saw the Duggars tonight. TLC is not dumb. They contrast Gosselin greed-(kitchen not functional etc) then show the Bates family coping in a 1000 sq ft home. Not that I'm a Duggar fan, but at least these people are grateful for what they get.......... Funny now that Jon & Kate have everything they can't stand each other. Careful what you whis for.......

Alissa said...

Moons In Leo said:

Kate tells us she's expecting to see snakes pinned to boards and then in the next breath says they're alive and in their habitat. Well, not really, Kate. Most snakes don't have habitats surrounded by glass, but you wouldn't know that.

Love it! I wonder if she picked up on her own possible metaphor. I seriously doubt it, though.

Phoebe said...

Great recap, the only thing you missed was the massive billboard ad for the kitchen company behind Jon at the start of the episode.

Re: kate reaction to the kitchen

What is it that you taught your kids kate, oh yeah; you get what your given and you don't complain, maybe you should follow your own advice.

Ms.Peach said...

Kate is repeatedly playing her 'single mom' card. She must have a bunch of them up her baby-doll sleeves.
--------------------------------

That has got to the line of the week! Great recap.

BTW, a wonderful 2 week beach vacation with a helper for kids and brand new kitchen to come home to---I would be jumping up and down and probably crying for joy. But not the conceited Kate. I bet the editors and producer had to cut and splice that reveal because Kate walked in the kitchen and bitched. What a horrible example for those kids.

nobodycares said...

TLC knows this show is going downhill fast so they will likely contract Jon to dump Hailey and hook up with another dumb young blonde and then Kate will have to lash out at one of her kids so the paparazzi they hire to stake out the home can sell that to a magazine and if that doesn't keep them in the press they'll start hinting at a reconcilliation with another big announcement forthcoming on their show. We need to give tv back to real actors and shelve these dull witted reality characters.

cossysmom said...

anyone notice that the pool in NC was empty except for the Gosselins?

Wouldn't it be wonderful to be able to travel in a chauffeured bus when you went on vacation? (or anywhere else, for that matter)

Why in the world did the twins need to take a limo home from the airport? (oh, never mind...now I remember...Jon has that practical 2 seater car)

I'm no neat freak and my child was always allowed to get dirty, but that pudding painting is just gross.

I think it's very thoughtful of TLC to arrange those "P people" to always be around. I'm sure it makes Kate feel important. (and really, Kate. If you travel around with a TV crew, why are you surprised when there are a few photographers taking notice?)

bcsurvivor2001 said...

Nice recap Moons in Leo......it's geting harder and harder to do now a days - given the material you have to work with :)

One of the observations I made Monday night - and it's been coming for a quite a while is the cross-double-talk she does all the time so that when she's done with a sentence (or paragraph in her case) you are totally confused.

The breakfast scene comes to mind. In one breath she mentions its sorta a tradition to wake up and have this BIG breakfast, the kids love it - and looks forward to it since it's such a rare treat - but immediately then says she fixes big breakfasts' all the time cuz they love it - then breaks back into the "since they never get bacon/sausage for breakfast" they go nuts - and I swear if my memory serves me right - she mentions yet again - how they never get this so it's a treat?

So - what is it? Do they never get real breakfast food so this tastes great? Or is she such a grand mother that she fixes her children big breakfasts on a daily basis?

And call me weird - but that painting with pudding totally disgusted me. I have never seen nor heard of ANYBODY doing this. You EAT food - you do not paint with it or play with it? Call me a prude but that is just disgustingly rude. Vacation or no vacation - are these kids being taught ANYTHING of manners?

So the next time they get something and start "playing with it - smearing it on each other" - how are they do know that it's not OK. But then again she's just a rude - guess its OK for your child to smear pudding crap all over a $1800/night rented beach house window cuz the "help will clean it up" I suppose?

But overall - this was one of the most boring episodes yet - and the editing is atrotious. TLC is doing a terrible job at their cut/paste of this disaster.

MelissaLG said...

Great recap. Your comments are hilarious. :) I saw part of the show while working out.

I was cracking up when Kate said she was so overwhelmed because she has to make "all the decisions" now that Jon is gone.

As if Jon ever was permitted to do anything other than take orders.

Given his current wardrobe and comments, Kate even picked out Jon's clothing. Gone are the days of the sweater vests.

Why did Kate make bacon and sausage in the oven? Just curious.

Oh, and by the way, it is possible for a piercing to stay "open" for years without use. I have a second piercing in one ear I got when I was 14, that has not closed over in over 20 years.

And Kate's reaction to her new kitchen was predictable. But it was also stupid! She got a 30K plus remodel for nothing. If it wasn't what she wanted, then it was her fault b/c she chose everything! Duh! Stop whining. My gosh.

MBach said...

I am soooooo verrrrry glad to see more and more posters promising never to watch again. I have officialy NOT WATCHED for 1 year now. Whoohoo! I might bake a cake. I DO NOT miss it, and find this website to be a great venting source instead. It was easy to start not watching a year ago, then they became news (scandal), so there was Jon&kate/Hate everywhere. Ugh! However, this website has helped me keep TLC off our tv.

I agree that the recaps have be more interesting then the show itself. Boring-on the beach, again-more free stuff, again-more look how wonderful and different from all of you "real" people we are-yet again. Many thanks to those who must suffer through the charade of "America's favorite family" to provide the recaps.

I did see kate/Hate on the Today show. What a joke! M.V. almost whispered her questions to poor little lost and sad woman/child kate/Hate. I REALLY hope the ratings are down. Everyone, please keep writing those letters protesting further filming of those kids, and promise I WILL NOT WATCH!

Whatasham said...

Great recap. You touched on a couple things that I noticed too.

Mady does a 'pretend' commercial about a paper towel. I'm relieved knowing she's going to be able to support herself once this sham is over. Then there is some 'pretend performing' with Cara and one of the girl tups. Wow, I'm thinking if you tried to touch Cara, your hand would just go right through her!

Yes, which convinced me of what I suspected in the start, that it was all a crafted audition, which Kate hopes will lead to the twins doing commercials...which is where a lot of child actors started. I loved the part where Mady says Leah did some little thing the wrong way and so "We fired her". Kate must be so proud.

Jon is waiting for them when they get out of their limo/ The girls are amazed to see that Daddy is wearing ... earrings!

For the first time in this episode, Jon's voice is raised above a mumble so he can lie to us and say that his brother pierced his ears for him when he was 15. Now he's decided to put earrings in the holes. Jon, sweetie, the holes would have closed up over the last 17 years if you'd never worn earrings.


Yeah, I thought that was hilarious, and just shows how easily he lies and how stupid TLC thinks we all are. BUT get this: if the twins were surprised, then allegedly he got them pierced in the prior week, after the twins left for SC. However when Jon meets the tups a week later getting off their bus, Jon's not wearing earrings and there are no red marks on his ears from recent piercing. So either the tups' return was staged earlier before the trip, or the twins' return was staged much later afterward. This must be the show's editor's first job out of vocational school.

MBach said...

I have worried about Cara with her father gone. She and Joel seemed the closest to Jon. My heart goes out to them, because kate/Hate can claim all HER kids are happy (as she did on the Today Show), but they have to be hurting from the loss of their daddy. Cara really identified with Jon, and her eyes often look sad even when she smiles.

Some baby pictures of Cara and Mady showed Cara with a rather large birthmark on her face. kate/Hate made comment on how she had told the girls it was Cara's angel kiss, and how it faded away over time.

Wouldn't perfect kate/Hate have been embarrassed that one of her daughters wasn't born perfect? Could that have started a closer bonding with the "prettier" baby Mady, and result in Cara seeming closer bonded to Jon? I do think that Mady is more like kate/Hate. Yes, I hope that Mady will be able to use her strong will and intelligent to create a good life, but her mother is her model at least 100 or so days a year.

kate/Hate or Jon once said that with the twins they had one child each. I'm betting that kate/Hate's one child of choice was Mady, and Cara was left to Jon.

Isn't she just so very lucky that none of the tups were born with any serious problems.

Remy said...

Moons in Leo said...

"Then Kate says she had to eat two orders of bacon a day and got sick of it.... If she explained the reason why anyone would have to eat a double order of bacon every day, I didn't hear it."

If I can recall correctly, I am pretty sure I heard her say that she had to eat the bacon "to grow them [the tups]" (as if they were some type of science lab experiment in which her uterus served as a Petri dish) when she was standing at the kitchen counter with her hand on her hip.
__________________________________

" Kate wants to make sure that Hannah will still love her even when she's a teenager. Hannah assures her mother she will always love her and Daddy. Hannah, Mommy doesn't care if you will always love Daddy. She's only interested in herself."

I guess she doesn't care if the other 7 will love her when they become teenagers. Hannah is the chosen one. By the way, way to encourage that your children continue to have open loving realtionship with their Daddy, as douche baggy as he may be, by keeping the focus soley on yourself and never following up and saying "Yes...and Daddy too." Not to mention subconsiously instilling angst and anxiety in your children by having them to constantly reassure and shore up your need to be loved and cared for in perpituity as opposed to just receiving their unconditional love.

___________________________________
Moons in Leo said...

"I'm startled by a man's voice asking Jon questions. Is this the new producer?"

Maybe it's just me as a 1st Mom but it is getting a little creepy hearing these male producers & camera men asking the kids questions while following them with a camera, especially the tups now that they are 5 yrs. old. It's not cute anymore it's just plain creepy and uncomfortable to watch.

According to Khate, since the tups have had cameras and rotating camera crews in their faces all of their lives and explains how they become best friends with anyone that comes into their home in the first 5 minutes. Are you seriously bragging about this? You really think that is a good thing?

I think that the kids have become desensitized to the idea of what a stranger is. They have no sense of stranger danger. Their natural defense system - their innate instincts and leeriniess of strangers have been completely erased. If the tups will befriend or talk to anyone this is not a good thing enforce or encourage. Teaching your children that it is ok to talk to or befriend a stranger (production crew or not) is a very bad idea and it is potentially setting them up for trouble in my opinion. I was taught as a child to NEVER EVER talk to a stranger. That something I plan to teach and reinforce to my child.

Pimping your children for the world to see for ratings, fame, and riches is not worth compromising their safety and security. The whole world knows just about everything about your children- their names, ages, their likes and dislikes, where they've been and what they've seen, and can easily strike up a conversation and lure them away. (I pray that never happens.) There a lot of good people in this world and there are a lot of kooks and crazies who do very bad things to children.

Apparently, Steve, the "bodyguard", of your rotating security detail, is necessary to protect and guard your body from strangers getting too close to you; but tell me Khate who is protecting your 8 little faces from strangers getting too close to them? Wasn't that supposed to be your job?

Geri said...

Excellent recap! Women will understand what I mean (wink wink). I hope you have recovered from the spots in front of your eyes LOL good stuff!

Marissa said...

Does anyone else think that kitchen is totally out of place? It doesn't match at all with the cheesy wall stencils and natural wood trim in that area of the house. Weird..

rachel said...

I noticed that Kate is developing "lines" in the middle of her forehead. They are vertical and just above her eyebrows. I have been watching closely to see when it is that they "appear" and I'm pretty sure they pop out when she's lying. I'm serious. Watch a re-run. We all know when she's lying but those little lines are screaming it for her. I'm sure Kate will notice this too and get Botox . . . . Of course she could always choose to tell the truth but why would she do that when Botox is so much easier?

Annies said...

I am Sooooo tired of the constant cleveage exposure on a "family show". Ok already, deny it or not we know you had something done to enhance your breasts but I am sickened by the constant pushing it in our faces. Kate seldom wears any top or dresses that don't have the cleveage showing. To "top" it off she is constantly bending over to give the audience yet a better look at those ta tas. Enough already. Oh, I forgot, didn't she also shove down our throats that she was a born again Christian at one time? I think they call it a backslider Jon and Kate. Not jeluseee in this case as mine are bigger.

CP said...

This bucket dumping over the head thing mentioned, I recall in the pool during the campout episode he was drinking pool water out of a bucket as he also dumped that on himself. Is it healthy to drink pool water? Wonder what the fascination is with bucket dumping.
__________________________________
I think this is just a boy thing. My 20 mo. old does the same thing. He is fascinated with water. He is always trying to drink pool water, bath water, etc. regardless of how often I try to stop him. He loves to dump water on himself from a bucket (not over his head but on his body). It's not healthy to drink the pool water but it won't hurt you either and kids do weird things.

SKB516 said...

Excellent recap. That's no small feat considering there wasn't much to work with. *yawn*

As for the comment Khate made about having to eat so much bacon- it was just yet another tale of martyrdom. She said she had to eat so much bacon in order to increase her calorie and fat intake, "so I could grow them." (meaning the tups) Yes, merely another chapter in the long list of sacrifices our heroine, who was laid up on bed rest for 30 weeks in case you forgot, made "for my kids". Seems I remember she mentioned in Beth's, I mean HER book, that she also was instructed to eat Hershey chocolate bars during that time.

Yet Another Julie said...

Great recap Moons! I actually watched part of this hot mess last night. I was flipping the channels between innings (GO RED SOX!!) and happened upon the show. I saw bits and pieces. I did catch the whole breakast thing. Kate said she had to eat two servings of bacon every day during her pregnancy with the tups. She said they needed the fat and calories to grow stronger while she was carrying them. I have kids (only two) and have never heard such a thing. Of course, I don't have multiples so it could be true. Anyway, I agree with your comments. The parts I saw were boring beyond words and I used to love this show. Obviously Kate's "people" are getting to her because she prefaced so many of her remarks with "I know people don't think I'm grateful" or "I know I look ungrateful but...". Plus she spent more time with the boys and even held one on her lap! She's definitely not an actress because no matter what she says, she was ungrateful for the kitchen!

tallblonde said...

You know - one thing I couldn't help thinking about is - if the show was a way for Kate to be a "stay at home Mom" - then why are "hot" breakfasts for the kids such a rarity?

Maude said...

I watched bits and pieces on YouTube - how boring can this show get!? I had to resist the urge to fast forward but instead kept walking away.
A few things did make it in to my psyche though, with the help of the recap.

- Mady's paper towl commercial was just sad. These kids are removed from reality and won't know what hit them if they ever go out in the real world.
-the pudding painting was gross enough last year; skipped that part.
- the doctors wanted Kate to eat a double order of bacon each morning for the fat and calories to help the babies grow. Huh? I never carried multiples so I guess I don't know what I'm talking about but I've never heard of a doctor perscribing high sodium, and saturated fat for anything. Wouldn't milk be healthier?
-Kate was grouchy and probably didn't seem grateful for the new kitchen. No, you just haven't figured out how to fake it yet.
-Jon's new earrings. Can't these people own up to anything? They have to lie and make up excuses for everything. Thats why neither can hold a job. Making this crap up takes all their time and energy.

Count me as one who won't be watching Monday night anymore and I don't think I'll be watching reruns or online much anymore either.

Counting down the remainder of their 15 minutes...

melissa said...

Moons in Leo said...
She reminds us that last year they were on vacation together and now she has to get used to being the sole decision maker. Kate, you've always been the one who was calling the shots!
++++++++++

Get the HECK outta Dodge??? I cannot BELIEVE she would say that she has to get used to being the sole decision maker!!! I laughed out loud at that more than anything else (and the rest was funny!). It would have been more appropriate to say, "I have always been the sole decision maker. I just need to get used to not having my whipping boy with me."

Monica A said...

I read the re-cap which was alot less painful than watching. Thank you Moons in Leo for the suffering you went through to spare us. ...lol...because trust me it sounded painful.

One thing that has me curious though is whether or not the twins have attendance requirements at their schools in order to be promoted to the next grade. How can they miss one week for a vacation and go back for the picninc?? What kind of parenting is that?

I can understand to a small degree having to get the tups out of the house. I have a 4 year old and while I think he would understand and with PROPER supervision be safe I obviously can't speak for having 6 at the same age. But I think the twins are old enough to understand that they have to stay away from that area and it wouldn't be impossible to make due to they could stay and go to school.

I mean I don't know that is just me, a normal everyday mom. I guess that doesn't apply to the KONS.

RATINGS ARE DOWN AGAIN!! said...

This is from radaronline.com

Jon and Kate Gosselin have something new to quarrel about – shrinking ratings.

The show's Monday night episode –while still doing well for a cable TV show -- continued a steep downward trend in the ratings with a 2.6 share and an estimated 3.4 million viewers.

The numbers stand in stark contrast to the previous week’s season premiere which TLC reported 4 million viewers tuning in.

Consider this: when the happy couple’s problems sprouted up in June, more than 10.6 viewers flocked to their screens to watch the family train wreck in motion.

Poor Carla said...

Did anyone notice that in the kitchen reveal that Ashley (Carla's daughter) was standing right there when she made the comment about having to rearrange things. Helllooooo, Ashley's MOM did all that work. She says to Ashley something like "What do you think?" & Ashley says "It's beautiful". And yes, when her & Carla packed you can clearly see specific writing on the boxes like "3rd & 4th shelf of pantry". Helllo TLC. You guys really need some new editing staff. We catch so many lies it's getting ridiculous. I know tho it must be hard to piece together enough good footage of ungrateful Kate to make a show but you could do a little better. Actually, you just need to get rid of Kate.

Sami said...

Jon, sweetie, the holes would have closed up over the last 17 years if you'd never worn earrings.

No it's entirely possible that piercings would not close. I've had piercings in my ears my whole life and I rarely wear earrings at all. They don't close. I do have to poke a little harder if it's been a while, but never very hard.

And honestly I thought Kate looked more grateful in this episode then in any episode I've seen before.

jonandkatewho? said...

Radaronline is reporting that the ratings for this episode were 3.4 million. That's down about a million from last week I think.

If the trend continues, and it would be nice, they would lose a million viewers a week! I hope this continues to happen.

It could only be good news for the kids if this show tanked. I realize 3.4 is good for TLC but it is not anywhere near the 10 million who tuned in for the messy breakup.

C'villeGa mom said...

Kate is a snake---you mean to tell me that she was uncomfortable among her own kind?!!

momtotwins2 said...

I do not like to defend Jon or Kate but I do want to add two comments

My husband had three holes put in his ears one drunken night in his early
twenties (yea, I know :)) and he has never worn earrings in them. It has been almost 20 years and he can still put earrings in them, no problem.
I also stopped wearing earrings at one point and one of my holes never closed up. It is possible.

Second, as someone who was carrying triplets (lost one), I was told HIGH FAT diet -your body needs ridiculous amounts of fat, calories, carbs, etc to keep up with the growing babies. So, yes, she was probably told that this is your time to eat foods like bacon.

Now back to the real topic at hand - those lonely children who have to befriend every stranger because their parents are who they are.

I personally am already sick of the WOA IS ME, I AM A SINGLE MOM crap.
Most single moms I know struggle to pay the bills, don't have chefs, helpers and nannies.
How sweet life will be when kate's 15 minutes are up and she has to live like the rest of us. Maybe Jon will be done with his mid life crisis and will go back to being an involved parent. Kate won't want the kids, afterall.

a bucket of h2o said...

A 20 month old dumping water on his head, and a 5+ y.o. boy doing it are quite different. What's with the dumping water on his head all the time?

bcsurvivor2001 said...

Another thing about timing and editing.....when the tups walked her into the house and into the kitchen with her eyes closed - and she was all dolled up (after riding all day)...........why did the tups lead her into the kitchen and say "open your eyes" anyways?

So you're telling me that TLC was just there at the house - waiting for their arrival after an all day (what 12+ hour trip) travel - they all got off the limo-bus and the tups took it upon themselves to walk their mother into her new kitchen?

Yeah right. And I agree - I don't really see that much difference in the ktichen besides the color of the cabinets and that huge thing-of-a-ma-jig they called an island. I've never seen anthing so huge in my life. It seemed very impractical (functionally) - as you have to literally walk all the way around it to get anywhere (?)

I've watched enough HGTV to see room remodels - and I would have thought given the huge amount of space of that area - they would have come up with something just "out of this world" awsome...... NOT

Moons in Leo said...

My bad about the piercings. I have friends who have stopped wearing earrings and their holes closed. Learn something new every day.

Thanks to those of you who clarified the reason Kate had to eat bacon, althoug I can't imagine any doctor prescribing fat and calories for any expectant mother unless he had an interest in pork bellies.

BTW, I don't record these little gems so I can't go back to see what I may have missed. I suppose I could go to YouTube, but seriously, I think one viewing of this video garbage is plenty for anyone.

Thanks for your kind remarks. Yes, the spots in front of my eyes are clearing up.

Laura said...

Remi I COMPLETELY agree with you. They have allowed all the children to become exceedingly used to strangers and cameras. The kids have been filmed going potty and being changed, and they've been taught to be cute in front of cameras because thats what mommy and daddy wants them to do. They clearly don't understand boundaries.

All this is made worse by the fact that Jon and Kate don't live there full time anymore. They are left open to potential abuse by the rotation of caregivers, film crews, security, etc who are always there. I'm sure there are background checks done on these people, but that doesn't ensure anything. And since Kate uses her bodyguard as a personal assistant and Jon is hiring his nannies in bars and using his security people to screen hot women for him, something tells me the kids safety isn't that high up on the priority list.

They should have a sit-down with law enforcement officers who know how child abusers work. Maybe they can be shown that they are doing EVERYTHING wrong as parents. I hope to God it NEVER happens but I wouldn't be surprised if years later stories from the kids start surfacing. If Jon and Kate think they are being shunned now they haven't even begun to feel the public anger that will ensue if one of these kids is hurt. Neither of them would be able to show their faces in public again.

No Friends for Gosselins said...

I felt bad for the kids when Kate said they sometimes say "I don't have anyone to play with." And Kate's response was something like "scratching my head thinking what? Look around." Referring to all the brothers & sisters. They are talking about FRIENDS to play with Kate. There is a BIG difference. As we know you don't play with them unless the cameras are rolling. These poor children are going to have a hard time having friends. It's so sad. Like the fact that noone was in the vacation pool but them. I remember meeting other kids on vacations & having fun with them, becoming "penpals"... They don't even have family really. All thanks to the Great Kate, Super Can Do Mom. It's such bull crap. I can't watch anymore. I can't stand her. Pray the ratings keep dropping.

Rap541 said...

"Jon, sweetie, the holes would have closed up over the last 17 years if you'd never worn earrings. "

This is a stupid thing to beg to differ on.... But....

My ears were pierced when I was six. I haven't worn earrings since I was 15.

I can still easily put a post in. Jon may not be lying, thats all I am saying.

Natalie said...

In regards to the twins hamming it up for the cameras, it's obvious what Kate is doing, AUDITIONING them. Sadly, she's so drunk on her own "fame" that she doesn't realize these kids DO NOT have what it takes to actually make it in the entertainment industry. Film/TV kids have to be ready to "go on" when scheduling requires, it's obvious from the many Gosselin melt downs that these kids can't keep it together for such a bold career move.

And I bet that's why missing school is no big deal to her. I bet in her mind these two are going to be the next Disney Stars and Disney Stars are on the road ALL the time being home schooled. In Kate's sick twisted mind, this is all normal.
The really sad part is, my guess is that there are tonnes of parents out there trying to pimp their kids out like Kate. How depressing that this is probably a pretty accurate snapshot of what parenting in America has come to for those that are fame/money hungry.

kate is a cocky bitch said...

It is possible that holes in one's ear can stay open, but is it really plausible? Given all the lies these 2 have said over the years I don't believe anything they say. And frankly I am more concerned with the holes in their heads.

marypoppins said...

Laura said...
Remi I COMPLETELY agree with you. They have allowed all the children to become exceedingly used to strangers and cameras. The kids have been filmed going potty and being changed, and they've been taught to be cute in front of cameras because thats what mommy and daddy wants them to do. They clearly don't understand boundaries.

________________________________
What about the wierdos/sickos out there who see these kids on the tv.

Yeah they are sheltered now with limited social activies and body guards/camera crew, but say when the kids are 12 or 13, 15 etc and going to the mall etc on their own,
who is going to protect them from these "old fans"

marypoppins said...

Natalie said...
In regards to the twins hamming it up for the cameras, it's obvious what Kate is doing, AUDITIONING them. Sadly, she's so drunk on her own "fame" that she doesn't realize these kids DO NOT have what it takes to actually make it in the entertainment industry. Film/TV kids have to be ready to "go on" when scheduling requires, it's obvious from the many Gosselin melt downs that these kids can't keep it together for such a bold career move.
______________________________
Nah not going to happen.

They are just average looking.

They are not PROFESSIONAL actors.

They are already over exposed and BRANDED.

No agency or company will want them to promote their product as they are already associated with the TLC show.

Plus could you imagine stage mom Kate? Maddy melting down?

marypoppins said...

Having food is a blessing period.

Ask any starving mother or child in a poor country.

Yet these people PLAY with it.

Dont get me started on Disney and all those food fight scenes

marypoppins said...

At a beach playing with pudding- AGAIN.

TLC Trying to recapture the good ole days are we?

Think well see another trip to Crayola? This time with MARKETS

I'll bet this season we see 8 episodes of SPECIAL DAYS.

marypoppins said...

melissa said...
Moons in Leo said...
She reminds us that last year they were on vacation together and now she has to get used to being the sole decision maker. Kate, you've always been the one who was calling the shots!
_________________________________
I think TLC calls the shots first.

Jen said...

It is actually true that when you are pregnant with higher order multiples that you have to eat *ridiculous* amounts of calories. I have no experience with sextuplets, but for quadruplets it was advised to gain 100 lbs.

And food, no matter if it's bacon, fruit, whatever, is hard to eat in large quantities b/c of the stomach getting squished by the babies. So doctors will recommend eating high calorie/high density (i.e. the most calories per bite) foods b/c they are most effective for the mom to gain weight (i.e. the babies gaining weight).

It's not the healthiest way to eat admittedly, but you do eat plenty of healthy items in addition to the "bacon-y" ones - plus it's only for the duration of the pregnancy (which is a relatively short time in the big scheme of things) - and it's what you have to do to get the babies' weight up. :-)

Pilgrim Soul said...

I thought Kate took the twins to an agency and they were promptly booted, at which point kate claimed that she didn't really want them to act/model afterall. They are all cute kids, as far as kids go, but none are anything extra special. And that's not an insult - they are regular kids and deserve to live like regular kids!

London said...

Natalie is right about that. "These kids DO NOT have what it takes to actually make it in the entertainment industry."

If a child wants to act or sing in the industry, he or she really has to know how to work with people like an adult. That means no meltdown, no complaining, and no whining. If you are difficult, you are out. There's 10000 children waiting to get your part.

If you want to be the next Olsons, you can't be obnoxious and annoying like Mady. You have to be actually likable. Olsons were likable and harmless when they were young. Now they are just weird and drugged out.

readerlady said...

ITA that wasting food by PLAYING with it is appalling. If she truly wanted to take the time (HAH! Probably too "exhausted"), there are washable body paints that the kids could have just as much fun with. Using food just shoves her excesses in the face of people who are struggling to send their kids to bed or off to school with a full stomach.

I thought on an earlier show that Kon said the kids weren't allowed to have real bacon, that they were only allowed to have turkey bacon. So - was the bacon and sausage real or was it a substitute of some kind?

Kate Will Never Be Like Beth said...

I was thinking about Kate's new kitchen & house & remember alot of people commented on how it isn't warm & like a home & how beautiful Beth's house is. Even Jodi's. Warm, inviting, family, love, REAL homes. Kate's never was or never will be. Her new kitchen is as cold as she is. Not a cozy French kitchen. Someone commented about her not having Beth & Bob over(4th of July)...It dawned on me, Kate tries to copy Beth so much. Beth is organized,a great loving Mom, family very important & friends, has a career & worked for everything she has. Even Jon now is copying them with the 4 wheelers...Even the pool. But the difference is Kate & Jon will NEVER be like Beth & Bob. Just wannabees. They will never have a loving warm home filled with family & friends. Just a fake TV studio. Nothing more. Beth & Jodi are truly blessed. No wonder Kate dumped them. She can never have what they really have. She's jealous & trying but it's not happening.

this show will end said...

This show will end soon. You can't make money from people's curiosity for years to come. Viewers have very short attention span and they get bored easily. If you make money from curiosity and shock value NOT good content, it will end soon.

Besides, the kids are getting older. Let's be honest. We all smile at spontaneous toddlers. The older kids...not so much. You can't stop the kids from growing up and turn them into Peter Pan. That would be creepy.


It gets to a point that viewers can't be shocked no more because they are numb. That's just human nature. You can't shock people forever. Divorce, affair with bodyguard, trashy girlfriends, and what not, who cares?!!! They are all ugly anyway. It's just bunch of unattractive adults using children to stay in spotlight. Then they get delusional, they think they are "hot". Eww...vomit induce.

When Kate flaunted her overweight body, tree trunk legs, love handles in Leah's bikini, you know this woman is out of touch with reality. She might be lighter than before but she is nowhere close to parade a bikini in front of paps. Yuck!

Ms.Peach said...

Monica A said....

One thing that has me curious though is whether or not the twins have attendance requirements at their schools in order to be promoted to the next grade. How can they miss one week for a vacation and go back for the picninc?? What kind of parenting is that?
--------------------------------

Some posters said that some private schools are lenient when it comes to attendance, plus Kate is pretty intimidating. Now, it may be true that the twins wanted to attend their grade's picnic, but the real reason may be that Mady caught Kate and Steve together, and in turn, this upset Cara too. Kate's solution was to send them home packing.

Mom of Three said...

I was a big fan of the show and never missed an episode up to this past May.

Now I am done with them. They are not the nice family I thought they were. The kids are cute, but Jon and Kate have turned into too weird people who have let fame and fortune go to their heads. They need to get back to reality for the good of their kids.


This dumb show needs to be cancelled for good.

this show will end said...

The show starts to get CREEPY. The kids are locked in toddler mode. They are encouraged to behave like toddlers. No one is trying to make them speak clearly like a normal 5 year old. Only Leah has a normal 5 year old's speech skill.

Dad is getting CREEPY by day. He thinks he is Brat Pitt with six pack. He just can't see his huge beer belly and butter face.

Mom is creepy and slutty. She uses her children like props/employees. She loves to show her new fake boobs to the world.

The big house is strange. They isolate the kids in a big house so the kids don't have contact with the outside world and find out their parents are using them and spending their money big time. TLC staff and the parents are controlling the kids' mind and who gets to talk to the kids.

Lower Heidelberg Neighbor said...

Sorry I can't give details because then the locals reading this might know who I am but I just back from frequenting a business that Kate frequents (Note: I have been going there for close to 15 years...way before THEM)

Anyway...when we walked in my eldest and I almost dropped our mouths open. One of the people who works there was dressed EXACTLY like Kate in a pink baby doll dress (Yes, she was too old too!) and had Kate's exact haircut and color.

OHHHHH....I hope somebody films that when Kate sees this woman because she will flip out!!!!

Toooooo funny....

PS...thanks for recap show sounded boring.

Lower Heidelberg Neighbor said...

Questions?

1. Who are Beth and Bob?

2. Who is Carla?

Thanks!

Food waste said...

What is with the pudding rubbed all over the kids bodies at the shore (never in Kate's house)?
Please, if anyone ever followed this silly ritual, let me know. I have never heard of this and never knew someone that would wast food like that. I am very careful about what food gets discarded.

No star there said...

Mady will NEVER make it in the movies OR commercials, she is too much of a loose cannon. No one would ever work with her, she does and says what she wants, no matter how inappropriate.

laura linger said...

No, Kate. Your world is strange and you've made it that way. My world is just fine, thanks.

************************

Beautiful.

WomanMother said...

They haven't updated their website in ages except to write the following....."For All Business Inquiries related to: Personal Appearances/Speaking Engagements, Media Requests, Endorsement Deals, Television/Film Opportunities please contact Mike Heller at Talent Resources at 212-725-1005 or Mheller@talentresources.com."

I'll be contacting Mike Heller to see if he can get Kate interested in an interview about why exploiting children is worth more than nursing or other "off camera" work that only involves the parent providing for their children and not the other way around. (ps - lol at Regis Philbin for making her feel publicly uncomfortable, I wonder if they'll air it)

PhillyErinKate said...

The pudding nonsense was annoying and really phoney. The "new" Kate has changed y'all. She likes messes and bacon and kids with their dirty hands all over each other.She is just like one of use now and it took Jon leaving for her to change!!!Personally, I found it disgusting to watch and I have kids. What I buy my kids are those finger paint soap you use in the bathtub. That is what they are for. Of course the old Kate had never bought them because she would find them too icky! I thought they were really trying to present the Opposite Kate (kudos to Seinfeld's Opposite George) but we all know what she is like.

dirtydisher said...

And the pudding WAS gross and a stupid non creative idea. Wasting food and making messes isn't cute.

Patti said...

Food waste said...

What is with the pudding rubbed all over the kids bodies at the shore (never in Kate's house)?
Please, if anyone ever followed this silly ritual, let me know. I have never heard of this


Maybe it was something Kate remembered from her single days ;)


No star there said...

Mady will NEVER make it in the movies OR commercials, she is too much of a loose cannon. No one would ever work with her, she does and says what she wants, no matter how inappropriate.


I'm sure a smart director who's used to filming kids could motivate Mady to willingly do what's needed. All she'd have to do is just sit down and listen to Mady and give her some genuine praise and affection, not the fake-acting Kate does on cue. And for all we know Cara throws ten times as many tantrums as Mady, but Mady does it with attitude and sass instead of just wailing, so the producers cast her as "the bad seed" through selective editing. Scary thought, isn't it?

anotherthing... said...

am i getting confused....? because from the recap it seems that kate is going on and on about being a single mom (ya freaking right, you and your bus-load of hired help all by your lonesome) while on vaca BEFORE the split?

sorry guys been outta the loop for a minute!!!...

i got 'crazy-wench-over-load' and had to back off reading the gossip on kate because she was making me physically ill with all her lies, child-pimping and scams and... well, just being her.

Ohio Buckeye said...

MoonsInLeo: Thanks for a great recap. The recaps continue to be far more entertaining than what I recall of the episodes (which I no longer watch on principle).

Remy, I share your concern about the Gosselin 8 having: 1) a constant stream of strangers in and out of their lives while their parents jet set around here, there, and everywhere, 2) a complete lack of Stranger Danger concepts, and, finally, 3)a mom who thinks is worthy of bragging that her children instantly makes friends with 'whoever comes into their lives'. Way to protect your children from the potential of child abduction, molestation, murder, K8. I'm guessing even back when John Walsh's little boy, Adam, was abducted and murdered, K was way too self-absorbed to have paid any attention to that tragedy.

TLC's trying to sell K8 as some kind of maternal/feminine role model is as ludicrous as it is insulting.

TN_Mamato4 said...

Katie Irene needs to go live with the Bate family from 18 Kids and Counting.. After working in the blazing heat all day, going thrift shopping for used appliances, and cooking and taking care of all of those kids MINUS a nanny, she'd be a changed woman.........

atleast long enough to call up PEOPLE and tell them about it... =)

stopthemadness said...

I think Jon had to agree with TLC to allow Kate to bash him unmercifully, in order to remain in "his" part of the show. They NEED Kate to be this pathetic victim. There is no way the real reality of Jon and Kate's marriage will be shown any more than it was a year, two years or four years (or seasons) ago. That is why Kate wears her ring still - to pretend this wasn't her idea and to leave it open for when they do, if it comes to that, the fake reconciliation series, to pump up the numbers of viewers. Just as they did the fake wedding in Hawaii, a year or more after Kate claims in her divorce proceedings paperwork, that the marriage was over, (granted this was so that she could screw him out of his share of the book proceeds since she wrote those during that time) and a scant two months before she kicked Jon to the curb. Or fired him, as Mady and Cara would say.

The fingerpainting with pudding, for a woman who will not, herself, eat anything her children have touched with their foul icky hands, is interesting. It's disgusting.

Kate is willing to say, or read the script that says, that she does all she does for her children and doesn't want them to be upset by the fact that the ??carat stone is off her finger, therefore they would realize all is not well in the Gosselin household - however, they've been there for the years that Kate eviscerated her husband on camera and for seasons where the crew evidently couldn't get 20 minutes of decent airable footage in over 8 hours of filming because of the fighting, doesn't Kate realize, (or more to the point, get that WE realize) that the kids copped on to the ugly issues in this marriage well before NOW? The ring is a symbol, Kate. It stands for the relationship - one which has been in the toilet for YEARS by your count - and by Jon's, and by the viewers'.

Now he's finally gone, she has to try to make it seem like his idea, or a surprise, or something she wasn't happy with - gee, what a huge unsuspected outcome of Treating Like Crap, the father of those kids you do everything for. Everything not including behaving like a decent human being. Making certain they are aware that you aren't having any fun and are doing all this FOR THEM (guilt, anyone?)

Kate is as fake as her teeth, boobs, tan and marriage. And her Christianity. Haven't seen her work that much lately.

Putting the kids in the middle of this tug of war instead of working together to make sure they know each parent loves them and is worthy of their love- is sickening. It's wrong. Especially because it's being done for ratings. And the fact that it isn't even what she feels - but what she must say for the next episode - is just so cynical and ludicrous it makes me wonder how they can stand looking in the mirror. Oh yeah, anything they do to boost ratings is "for their kids" since money will roll in.
Can only imagine in horror what the next thing they do to boost ratings will be. TLC loves to see people hate on Jon, or hate on Kate, or her objectionable behavior, and without Jon to leak her stress and bad karma all over, it will be one or more of the kids who gets the brunt of that - they've shown how willing they are to air ugly episodes (TLC) of parents bashing and psychologically abusing their own kids (watch Toddlers in Tiaras for moms to ridicule and belittle their kids)for their own sick ego needs.

If the show grinds to a halt Kate will let the kids know it's because of daddy or Aunt Jody or because they are no longer cute and interesting - damn them. She will NEVER take responsibility for anything.

This show is such a farce.

And I'd love to see the hospital diet that prescribes double bacon for anyone never mind a pregnant woman.

Because whatever kate doesn't like - and that list is long - her kids also cannot have access to, and that will come, more and more, to include their father. Hope they are putting something aside for therapy as well as college.

Susanne said...

Just a comment on one of the boys pouring water on their heads. I'm not sure why a few posters are thinking this is so weird. I have a dayhome and in the summer we pull a wading pool out and a majority of the kids, boys and girls alike, like dumping water on their heads. As long as it's they, themselves doing the dumping and not the other kids. It is a normal kid thing, yes, even at 5 years old.

Harriet said...

I was underweight during all my pregnancies. My doctors during all them prescribed cheeseburgers, milkshakes, and sausage biscuits for at least three days a week. Dr. Elliott in Phoenix has written several times how important calories are in getting healthy babies. In my case it was similar in that I needed weight gain for mama to get healthy babies. They don't recommend cookies, candy, and doughnuts, but cheeseburgers and milkshakes while not normally the best food choices do provide a lot of useful nutrients as well as those much needed calories. I'd imagine bacon was viewed in a similar way.

Moons in Leo said...

Something I didn't mention in the recap but will mention here:

These children haven't been taught any manners. Of course, they are being raised with less consistency than a pack of wolves so it isn't a surprise. It is, however, a shame.

Allowing children to play with food is not going to help them eat like humans at a table either.

Just one of the many developmental problems in these kids' lives.

stopthemadness said...

Kate did the pudding finger paint because it's one thing (and there are very few) she has done that has gotten decent reviews, given her weird OCD tendencies and supposed dislike of germs.

I let my daughter and my daycare babies do fingerpaint with pudding at one year old age - in a high chair - fingers on PAPER - because at that age they will lick what is on their hands and paint however washable is not edible. A five year old is not a one year old and past age 36 months or well before with normal kids, developmentally they are well able to understand that you do not eat paint, you do not put everything into your mouth.

Fingerpaint is one thing - to body paint on your sibing and slurp and lick your hands and put them back in the paint them paint your other sibling, your bathing suit, etc is not only unhygenic it is unavory. Put this kind of behavior together with the total lack of normal boundaries about bodies and strangers and you have a recipe for DISASTER, psychologically. Boundaries are at the root of most issues with parents and these parents have NO BOUNDARIES for their children, they totally disrespect them, witness Kate showing mady or the tups first toilet efforst or Jon pulling a bowel movement out of Collin's rear end on CAMERA for a Disgusting and total lack of boundaries with these kids.

When you disprespect a child's boundaries you leave it open for a host of psych issue, this is NOT HEALTHy it doesn't matter if your kids are "happy and healthy" today it has to do with their psychological health and their happiness as they grow up.

Kate doesn't view the kids as people but as her property, they don't get any respect from her or any acknowledgement of the fact that they OUGHT TO have boundaries, it's all their for the world to see, getting spanked for the P people's cameras, getting filmed while your father takes liberties with your "under the bathing suit" private areas - these kids more than regular child actors who have scripts that would never DARE to include such things, need an advocate who will protect them at their age and edit out or prevent such abuse. And I do mean ABUSE.

How the sheeple "love to watch" this buyllshit really is astonishing and disgusting, that they think this is okay, because trheir voyeurism justifies it, is shameful. They will never have to stand to account for any of this.

KATE WAKE THE F* UP.

Pretty Fed Up said...

I've noticed that Kate always wears a chain around her neck with what looks like a small diamond hanging from it.

Did she ever mention who bought that for her?

The fact that she wears it all the time makes it seem like it is important and sentimental to her.

Was it a gift from Jon, or the kids, or Steve?

pressured cooker said...

1. Who are Beth and Bob?

2. Who is Carla?

Thanks!

Beth and Bob are friends from the old days.

Carla is a friend TLC bought for Kate after she ran Beth and Bob off.

concerned said...

Patti:

It's wonderful that you are trying to find positive qualities for Mady.

But regarding working in a professional environment - the children you see in the entertainment business are generally extremely gifted in all the arts (singing, dancing, acting) as well as being trained in being seen but not heard.

Many a child star has said how they learned from a very, very young age that when they were working they were no longer children, but professional actors. That means they could never act out. Never. No director can afford any down time training anyone.

As was mentioned before, there are thousands of kids who are naturally gifted in the arts. And are encouraged from day one to excel.

There is nothing wrong with being simply a good kid. But none of the children on this show have ever shown any special ability.

Beeninrealmovies said...

From Patti I'm sure a smart director who's used to filming kids could motivate Mady to willingly do what's needed. All she'd have to do is just sit down and listen to Mady and give her some genuine praise and affection, not the fake-acting Kate does on cue.

Patti, I'm afraid that isn't the director's job. There are tons of children who will do what needs to be done without any extra effort. Any child that requires that kind of special handling would be gone in short order unless they are already a star and a movie is half-way through production and there is some special situation. My children and I have done a little work in the industry and trust me the kid does as told or is history no mamby pamby coddling involved. Mady doesn't have the requisite self-control. None of the kids do, but I'm not blaming them. They haven't been taught.

Simple to the point said...

Pressured Cooker: LMAO Good answers!!! HAHA

MeMommaMo said...

I don't understand why they needed a kitchen upgrade other than the fact some company was looking for some advertising. I think that is why Kate wasn't that excited about it (i.e. she didn't care). I think the first kitchen was fine, but what do I know.

When Kate brought up that she had to get used to being the person to do everything. She was always the one who did everything. Now she just doesn't have someone to yell at to do it for her.

That Kate is really good a putting on a show.

BTW, anyone seen the DVD cover for season 5??? Now that is a photoshopped work of "art." I saw it in Target and about laughed out loud at how manufactured it looks - suits the show I guess.

Two clueless idiots said...

I let my daughter and my daycare babies do fingerpaint with pudding at one year old age - in a high chair - fingers on PAPER - because at that age they will lick what is on their hands and paint however washable is not edible.

***

I had mentioned elsewhere that it is not uncommon for daycare centers and preschools to offer various tactile stimulation opportunities such as painting with pudding, yogurt, whipped cream, etc. I have, however, never heard of people fingerpainting others' bodies!

I couldn't believe it when I read about the fingerpainting with pudding because we just saw the exact same thing the last time they went to the beach. I'm guessing they're really scraping the bottom of the barrel and out of creative show ideas...

FoodNetworkFan said...

Oh, lordy lou. I can't even get started on the debacle of the Regis interview. I hear it's on tomorrow. I'm sick of the "poor poor pity me" thing. I don't feel bad for her -- she asked for the divorce, right?! Nana got divorced when I was a small child, and I can't even begin to tell you how much of an impact it had on me. Divorce affects children no matter how much parents and grandparents try to avoid it. Nana used to make me sweet tea and tell me, "It's okay, wonky" (her nickname for me). I think the twins act up enough as it is. Wait till they're teens, Khate and Yawn. You just wait! That little act they did in front of the crooked houses was simply a taste of what is to come. It what is to come won't taste nearly as good as Nana's sweet tea!

IA bag lady said...

Through the seasons I have always been on Jon's team. I really felt for the guy whenever Kate would open her mouth and actually cheered when I heard that he was growing a pair and getting the heck out of dodge! I didn't, however, forsee him leaving the kids like he has! I truly thought he'd make sure that he played a LARGE (no joke about his weight intended) part in their daily lives. What the heck is his damage??? I am completely grossed out by his behavior and the way he's been looking lately. Ed Hardy gear or not, 100% skid row! HOWEVER....I have come to the conclusion that Kate truly did run his life...all the way down to his wardrobe and actions. There is no other explaination for the crap he's pulling now. He doesn't know how to dress or how to act appropriately because big Kate isn't there to tell him.
The only good thing I can actually say about Jon is that you never really see him bashing Kate. Kate on the other hand, being the camera w#ore that she is, can't help herself. Every time they interview her, she whips up a couple of aldergator tears and talks about how Jon is the blame of everything. She is martyrism at it's finest. I don't believe one single word that woman ever says. I just worry so much about those poor, sweet little kids! They're just STUCK with no options at this point....
I'm proud to say that I haven't watched one minute of the show since they announced their split a few months ago. Sounds like I'm not missing anything either.

Pony said...

No Friends for Gosselins said...
I felt bad for the kids when Kate said they sometimes say "I don't have anyone to play with." And Kate's response was something like "scratching my head thinking what? Look around." Referring to all the brothers & sisters. They are talking about FRIENDS to play with Kate. There is a BIG difference.

***********

Some people don't get that siblings can be so different that they would never choose each other for friends. My ex could never understand why our kids weren't closer friends at ages 5 and 7, for instance. He was an only child and was sure that if he'd only had a brother, life would have been wonderful. He never really got that when kids are close in age, there can be tremendous rivalry for attention, toys, whatever. I imagine if there were 6 of you, there would 3 times the rivalry.

Oh, The Necklace Again said...

Pretty Fed Up said...
I've noticed that Kate always wears a chain around her neck with what looks like a small diamond hanging from it.

Did she ever mention who bought that for her?

The fact that she wears it all the time makes it seem like it is important and sentimental to her.

Was it a gift from Jon, or the kids, or Steve?
--------------------------------
This was talked about a whole lot here, several weeks back. Consensus was that she bought it for herself or it might be part of a ring she took apart but I, and others, thought she might wear it 24/7 to be sending a message to someone and, yes, a lot of fingers pointed to "Steve." Hmmm.....

Lower Heidelberg Neighbor said...

pressured cooker said...
1. Who are Beth and Bob?

2. Who is Carla?

Thanks!

Beth and Bob are friends from the old days.

Carla is a friend TLC bought for Kate after she ran Beth and Bob off.


Thanks for the answer...I was wondering!

QuadMom said...

I just need to comment on the the bacon issue. While most pregnancies don't require an audacious amount of fat and calories, those with a high number of babies do. I can speak from experience. I had quads four years after my first child and my pre-pregnancy weight was only 110 for my 5'3" frame. I was told I was underweight for a normal pregnancy and even more so for multiples. Bacon was one of the suggested foods I try to consume almost daily becuase it is loaded with protein and fat, however I have a terrible distaste to it. Basically, I was told to gain nearly 100 lbs throughout my pregnancy, which ended up making it to almost 32 weeks! It is quite the challenge to eat that much food, especially the larger you get and the less space your stomach has to expend. Loading up on "healthy" foods doesn't really accomplish the weight gain so I will admit I ate a lot of pasta, cheeseburgers, milkshakes etc among all my healthy options. Albeit to say, carrying a larger number of multiples is no easy task, especially when you have older children, or in my case one older child, to take care of. All and all, I still find Kate to be over dramatic about the whole situation. There are several foods that I have a hard time tolerating now after having consumed so much during my pregnancy, but I certainly don't with hold them from my husband and five kids! She makes me want to vomit, and from the very beginning I always found it hard to truly relate to her as a mom to multiples, even having been a nurse and choosing to stay home to care for my babies.

I am also proud to say I DO NOT watch the show and will continue not to. It was difficult explaining to my 8 yr old daughter why we don't watch anymore but she understands and we enjoy the Duggars family much more. They are so pleasant to each other and while they don't resemble a "typical" family, you can relate to their values and morals that they hold and how they treat each other.

I also wanted to comment on the verbal skills of the tups. I think some people are reading too far into this. Many children, even at five, and be difficult to understand, especially if they are quite. I think the reason there are still captions below what they say is because their small, high pitched, and often times soft voices are hard to pick up on the microphones. While I do acknowledge the fact that my 4 yr old quads are easier to udnerstand, I am their mother and anyone who is an active part of a childs life may find their own childs verbal skills easier to understand than most people and not even realize it. I don't like to think my kids are any smarter or more verbally skilled then the tups. Who are we do judge these poor kids.

cossysmom said...

I think I could accept the "new single" Kate if she would drop the POOR ME attitude. If she would just say,I'm single now and it's quite different. I'm working hard to make it as easy as i can for my children and I AM BLESSED TO HAVE SO MUCH HELP. It's time for the Gosselins to come clean. They aren't fooling anyone.

pity party much k8? said...

stopthemadness, you've made so many great points about boundries. wow! high-five..! As far as 5-year-olds doing the tired pudding thing, I agree with others that have previously posted that it is NOT age-appropriate. My children at their age were practicing with non-toxic paint, markers, glue, scissors, paintbrushes, and if you can even believe it, PENCILS. Haven't seen a book yet so I don't expect to see a pencil and paper anytime soon. It's all part of keeping them babies I guess.

where's Jon No more Kate said...

I miss seeing Jon's interactions with the kids, At least he is spontaneous.I cannot believe he cannot be with the kids when Kate takes her trips. I'd be interested in how long her trips are and when and how much Jon gets to be with the kids. Kate went on the Today show and lied. Those of us who have watched the show from the beginning know so. I personally am so tired of hearing her say I I I I Me Mine etc.

phylly3 said...

I am a nurse, and I understand that Kate is too. Listening to her it is next to impossible to believe that she was smart enough to complete the education that is required to graduate and become registered.

BethAndBobTheSmartOnes said...

Simple to the point said...
Pressured Cooker: LMAO Good answers!!! HAHA
--------------
ITA....too funny!

Paige said...

I'm proud of myself. I actually forgot the show was going to be on this week and I didn't watch.

Wonderful recap! Clearly I didn't miss a thing.

Maegan said...

I hate to nitpick...the recap was fine...but my mother had her ears pierced (multiple times) over a time span of about 10 years...the last being in the early 70s. her holes never closed up, and she stopped wearing earings (except for the "normal" bottom hole) when she joined the military. That's much longer than 17 years...and I recall in a couple of pics that were shown when Jon & Kate first got together or started dating, Jon DID have earrings in. Heck, I've had my ears pierced for the last 20 years...and I have never had a problem with them closing, and I have go without earrings for years at at time.

My sister on the other hand, can leave her earrings out for a week and have to punch through a little bit of healed skin when she puts a new pair in. I think it's just an individual thing. Whether he got them done years ago, or re-did them recently, they still look stupid!

LessPressureToJustFessUp said...

cossysmom said...
I think I could accept the "new single" Kate if she would drop the POOR ME attitude. If she would just say,I'm single now and it's quite different. I'm working hard to make it as easy as i can for my children and I AM BLESSED TO HAVE SO MUCH HELP. It's time for the Gosselins to come clean. They aren't fooling anyone.
----------------------------
You are right. This is the common thread woven thru this whole mess. If they would just be HONEST they would get so much more mileage with viewers. People don't have any patience for BS. The Gosselins just keep missing opportunity after opportunity for "redemption." (I'm not saying they deserve it, of course.) I mean, could Jon do anything more to make himself look like an idiot? It becomes so incongruous that you think to yourself, "no two people could be this stupid, could they?" which then leads you to surmise it's all a ruse from the beginning and we're being totally played, falling right into their hands. Actually, the whole thing is now so ridiculous I'd be laughing if it wasn't for the hopelessly sad situation for eight young kids.

Cherier1 said...

I think the tups verbal skills may be a little delayed/difficult to understand is because they spend so much time talking with each other. The more adult talk/interaction a child has, the more developed their speech is likely to be. I think you can always really tell when a parent/caregiver converses a lot with the child: the child's speech is clearer and their vocabulary is more advanced.

I mean real conversations; not barking orders...

rockypriscilla said...

This is slightly off topic, but I had never seen how it looked from the kids perspective to have the cameras filming them until the paps started taking pictures. Now we see what they see, a man with a camera and a man with a boom mic in their face. It made me think back to the earlier seasons when the kids were bathing and potty training. I couldn't stop picturing what those kids dealt with...going to the bathroom and taking a bath with one man holding a camera while another held a boom mic in their face (even if it was a woman, it's just as bad). Doesn't this constitute abuse? As a parent, I can't imagine another parent allowing their children's privacy to be violated in this manner. It's so disgusting and I don't see how the sheeple can't see past all of the material things to the things that really matter.

rockypriscilla said...

Natalie said...
In regards to the twins hamming it up for the cameras, it's obvious what Kate is doing, AUDITIONING them. Sadly, she's so drunk on her own "fame" that she doesn't realize these kids DO NOT have what it takes to actually make it in the entertainment industry. Film/TV kids have to be ready to "go on" when scheduling requires, it's obvious from the many Gosselin melt downs that these kids can't keep it together for such a bold career move.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I am absolutely not one to defend Kate. I think that she's a horrid mother, but does anyone think that it's possible that the kids were just playing around? My kids LOVE to make videos, especially when they're with their cousins. They make up shows, kind of like ICarly. They are so adorable and we watch them when the whole family gets together for holidays, etc. I also remember when my brother and I were kids, we recorded a radio show (didn't have video cameras back then) and we had so much fun. I do know that this is Jon and Kate that we're talking about, and there very well may be a sinister reason behind it, but I'm just saying that it could be harmless fun.

Tami said...

Just a comment on one of the boys pouring water on their heads. I'm not sure why a few posters are thinking this is so weird. I have a dayhome and in the summer we pull a wading pool out and a majority of the kids, boys and girls alike, like dumping water on their heads. As long as it's they, themselves doing the dumping and not the other kids. It is a normal kid thing, yes, even at 5 years old.

******
What I found strange about it is:
a: I believe it was the same kid they just showed doing it on last week's show (I could be wrong)
b: He was drinking chlorinated pool water out of a bucket
c: It also appeared he drank some ocean water as he dumped it. Just seemed like some OCD thing to me, and I would not let my kids drink from a bucket like that ::shrug::

Nancy said...

Isn't this the SECOND time she's gotten a new kitchen......and didn't like it? I seem to remember her mentioning a "make over" after the tups were born. I could sure use a FREE kitchen remodel! Sigh....

kmshag said...

Food waste said...
What is with the pudding rubbed all over the kids bodies at the shore (never in Kate's house)?
Please, if anyone ever followed this silly ritual, let me know. I have never heard of this and never knew someone that would wast food like that. I am very careful about what food gets discarded.

8/12/2009 1:28 PM


We used to do that as kids when my mom watched my cousins- anyone who was old enough to fingerpaint without trying to eat the paint got to do so. The littlest ones- usually 2 or under- got chocolate pudding and waxed paper on a high chair tray. It was in a food-safe environment, so was as clean as could be expected, and the little kids loved being included. Also, most of the pudding (total for 2-3 kids was one pudding cup, so not much waste) ended up being eaten.

As I mentioned, this practice stopped once each child was about 2and stopped trying to eat paint. It was a great rainy-day solution that didn't leave anyone out and took place maybe once every few months.

As for 5 year olds? They're definitely old enough to put on paint smocks and use actual paint. I think the food waste isn't the issue here so much as the fact that Kate, once again, is holding the tups back developmentally for her convenience (the ever-present, up till now, bibs being another example).

cossysmom said...

"Actually, the whole thing is now so ridiculous I'd be laughing if it wasn't for the hopelessly sad situation for eight young kids."

*********************************
Right on! If this was a show about two adults and their wreck of a life, it would be bearable (a la Paris Hilton for a while) but when the children are put in the mix it is heartbreaking. Hearing things like, "I'm wearing my wedding ring so the children aren't upset" and then going on TV and to the press to air your dirty laundry is just inexcusable. There is no way these two idiots can shield these children from what the parents themselves are putting out there!

Kate said...

BTW, I'm sick of Indiana University being mentioned when Hailey is mentioned. (People Magazine did this in a recent article, in the table of contents no less). I am a IU grad and it's an embarrassment to mention her. All she did there was apparently party and smoke weed. (not that I saw her, but I was a student at IU Bloomington when she was). Furthermore, she is no longer enrolled there! Try her name in the address book: http://people.iu.edu/index.cgi

just "Glassman". No results. She doesn't go there. Leave IU out of this.

Ok, I got this off my chest. Thanks for letting me b**** about this.

Natalie said...

rockypriscilla,
I agree that this kind of behaviour in a "normal" household would be totally harmless and just plain fun and games. But unfortunately these kids are not in a "normal" household. And the fact that Kate even commented on how much they love to "act and put on shows" (or whatever she said... I tune most of it out) leads me to believe she was hoping someone out there would notice: talent agent, producer, etc...
As mentioned, these kids did not impress that talent agent they visited years ago and I'm sure that did not sit well with Kate. So now she's using the show as a means of putting them on display for whoever may be able to offer them something.
This lady doesn't allow her kids to do ANYTHING just for the fun of it... It's all a means to rake in more $$$ - the trips, the camping, the potty training, all of it! And this whole acting and putting on shows is no different.

Pilgrim Soul said...

As much as I hate the churchiness of the Duggars, at least they are not all about the materialism, but rather, their message, whether you agree with it or not. Kate and Jon are all about Mammon.

marypoppins said...

J and K invited the cameras into their home ,but at what point did they LOSE CONTROL ?

Were they so blinded by the immediate success of the show, the personal attention received, the dollar signs (from both TLC and private fans)

When did they decide it was ok to let the cameras film the kids for x long hours at a time.
It was ok to follow the kids into the bathroom.
To continue filimg despite a very uncomfortable collin in the furniture /bed shop.

Did an alarm ever go up in their heads- they were doing things that were in the best interest of the SHOW and not in best interest of the FAMILY/KIDS

Did they ever think that we need to slow down

How did they justify to themselves that continuing the show was a good idea

Too bad the people who were with them before they became rich and famous were booted out.
These friends and family are the ones that would have kept them grounded and helped them keep things in perspective.

I dont think they set out/expected to end in this trainwreck.

Anonymous said...

It was so obvious that Kate is using the shoe as a freebie audition for Mady and Cara to acte out fake commercials to get TV endorsements.

Remember when Kate said in an old episode, "We really need a BIGGER HOUSE?" Guess what, TLC granted them their wish and gave them a $1.1 million dollar mansion.

Kate realizes that the show is going to be cancelled. So she is trying to get another stream of income started to get Mady and Cara to be child actors. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Mady and Cara are not talented enough and frankly, not cute enough either to be kid actors. Plus the notoriety of Mady and Cara being on the Jon and Kate Plus 8 show works against them.

MelissaLG said...

anotherthing... said...

am i getting confused....? because from the recap it seems that kate is going on and on about being a single mom (ya freaking right, you and your bus-load of hired help all by your lonesome) while on vaca BEFORE the split?

________________

You are right.

TLC is messing with the timeline, and editing the heck things. Inserting voice overs that conflict with the actual statements made by Kate and Jon at the time of the taping.

It's sloppy, deceptive, and somewhat unethical give the "reality TV" genre they purport to have. But TLC figures most people won't notice.

The beach vacation was at the end of May. Kate filed for divorce almost one month AFTER this vacation, on June 22.

This vacation was filmed just days after the season premiere. They had not officially separated then, according to their own words at the time.

In the May 22 premiere, Kate and Jon still claimed to be together, but struggling, and unhappy. They both claimed they didn't know what was going to happen.

Just days before this vacation, Kate tearfully said on the couch "It's very difficult, but I'm trying. I have a lot of anger." Jon was dead-pan and defensive. He was NOT the upbeat, smiling, "man-child" we saw the other night.

And in May 2009 Kate was on the cover of People: "Kate does have hope, however, that her marriage can be saved. "

I will never give up hope that every member of our family can be absolutely happy again," she says."

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20278472,00.html

heahter said...

Oh and tlc didn't give them the house. It was 1.3 million. they put 700,000 down and mortaged around 700,000. Their payments are around 5,000 a mth.

Wrong Information said...

Oh and tlc didn't give them the house. It was 1.3 million. they put 700,000 down and mortaged around 700,000. Their payments are around 5,000 a mth.



Heather you mean the children put down $700K for the house. Without them, the Gosselins would be nothing.

Good News To Report said...

Perez Hilton reports that "This week's episode only attracted around 3 million viewers, which is down 4 million from the previous week. Experts believe that the show, on it's current course and format, will not survive."

If you think about it, 1 million people who watched last week, didn't watch this week. That's a HUGE drop when their total numbers are just 3 million. 1/4 of their viewers didn't watch!

Believe me, the advertisers / sponsors / freebee hander-outers are going to sit up and take notice if the numbers continue to drop. TLC is probably crapping in their collective drawers right now, trying to find a way to save the show.

Personally, I think they should take all that time, effort, energy, money and use it to promote Little People, Big World and The Little Couple. Or, if they absolutely have to promote the crap out of a show about multiples, why not focus on 18 Kids and Counting? I don't watch the show on a regular basis, but from what I've seen it's a wholesome, family program without any fighting or name calling.

a rose is a rose said...

The correct amt. they paid for the home WAS 1.3 million (a lot of reports like to say 1 million) It was posted in our local real estate section, right after they purchased it in the lawyers name, but Kate's address.

mko1211 said...

It was so obvious that Kate is using the shoe as a freebie audition for Mady and Cara to acte out fake commercials to get TV endorsements.



Kate realizes that the show is going to be cancelled. So she is trying to get another stream of income started to get Mady and Cara to be child actors. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Mady and Cara are not talented enough and frankly, not cute enough either to be kid actors. Plus the notoriety of Mady and Cara being on the Jon and Kate Plus 8 show works against them.
-----------------------------------
Actually Kate said that was what all little kids do- so she obviously didnt think they were doing anything special

LKG said...

Remy Said:

Teaching your children that it is ok to talk to or befriend a stranger (production crew or not) is a very bad idea and it is potentially setting them up for trouble in my opinion. I was taught as a child to NEVER EVER talk to a stranger. That something I plan to teach and reinforce to my child.
***********************************

In my opinion it is also a good practice to teach children how to talk to strangers in case the need should arise. There are a variety of situations where children need to be able to interact with strangers and they need to know for example about keeping at least three feet of distance, not revealing personal information unnecessarily, and the language to use to ask for help. Every day children get separated from their parents in public places and many times have to ask a stranger for help and they need to know how to do it. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if an episode this season will be titled "safety day" since the Kon crew seems to keep an eye on GWOP.

marypoppins said...

Wrong Information said...
Oh and tlc didn't give them the house. It was 1.3 million. they put 700,000 down and mortaged around 700,000. Their payments are around 5,000 a mth.

Heather you mean the children put down $700K for the house. Without them, the Gosselins would be nothing.
________________________________
But surely TLC pays them for the use of the house, facilites for the crew etc

Beach Lover said...

Why wouldn't a SAHM and father give a nice breakfast to their kids every single day? Cold cereal is okay, but little ones burn a lot of calories in their running about and need to have their nutrition for school and for play. Mrs. Thing doesn't seem to get it despite her organic fixation.

As far as them (J&K) being one big happy family again, I doubt very much if they ever were that. When I used to watch the show you could cut the tension in the house with a knife between J&K and between K&kids...and that was through a TV screen. I don't think Khate can be happy, will ever be happy, even knows what happiness is. The kids look very sullen and checked out most of the time unless they are imitating her overly dramatic persona. Very sad.

gaga said...

Robert J. Thompson, founding director of the Bleier Center for Television and Popular Culture at Syracuse University suggests:

"I don't know if the show can make that new transition [from two parents raising eight kids to one parent raising the children]. It's like if The Cosby Show, mid-season, suddenly became Married With Children."

---------------

Well said.

L said...

LGK said...

In my opinion it is also a good practice to teach children how to talk to strangers in case the need should arise. There are a variety of situations where children need to be able to interact with strangers and they need to know for example about keeping at least three feet of distance, not revealing personal information unnecessarily, and the language to use to ask for help. Every day children get separated from their parents in public places and many times have to ask a stranger for help and they need to know how to do it. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if an episode this season will be titled "safety day" since the Kon crew seems to keep an eye on GWOP.
___________________________________

Thanks, LGK. Yes, you are correct. I was also going to mention that point as well but I didn't want to get too too wordy. A child does need to know how interact with a stranger should the need arise in a given emergency situation.

When I said never talk to strangers I meant "Stranger" - as in an individual(s) who you do not know who would try to iniate, lead and engage you into a conversation.

The issue for me is that the kids have been pumped, prodded, and conditioned to provide information so freely, to producers and production crews, since they could speak that they are conditioned to provide information freely whenever prompted. I really do not think that they have not been taught about what information to reveal and not to reveal because they are only continously pumped for information so often that they do not know anything different. And that, unforunately I think, is doing them a diservice in both the short and long term.

So, yes, children do need to know how interact with and seek help/assitance from a stranger if she/he should become lost or in an emergency situation. But the tups are around strangers so frequently they have become too comfortable in their presence. So much so, that according to Khate they will befriend anyone within 5 mins. that anyone can easily expolit that fact.

kim said...

I sent an email to Regis and Kelly expressing my sincere pleasure at seeing Kate squirm in her seat when asked by Regis why she doesn't just quit the show. She gave her usual lame retort about the show being her only source of income, blah, blah, blah. Thank you Regis for having the guts to ask what is so obvious to all of America!

Pilgrim Soul said...

If they are making so much money (which they are), why didn't they pay cash for the house. Why a mortgage?

drama queen says um said...

previous poster said:

It was so obvious that Kate is using the shoe as a freebie audition for Mady and Cara to acte out fake commercials to get TV endorsements.



Kate realizes that the show is going to be cancelled. So she is trying to get another stream of income started to get Mady and Cara to be child actors. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Mady and Cara are not talented enough and frankly, not cute enough either to be kid actors. Plus the notoriety of Mady and Cara being on the Jon and Kate Plus 8 show works against them.
--------------------------------

mko1211 said:

Actually Kate said that was what all little kids do- so she obviously didnt think they were doing anything special

--------------------------------

Not trying to be snarky, mko1211, but my immediate reaction when I read your comment was that you must be new to the KON - the more you scratch the surface, the more apparent it becomes that there is a huge disconnect between what Khate says and what her real intentions are.

Ohio Buckeye said...

A Rose is a Rose: 2 questions for you: Did your local real estate purchase report showing the price, titled in the lawyer's name, and with KATE's address show up in October/November 2008?? How does this fit in to their alleged timeline - does it seem odd that only KATE's address was noted back when they bought the mansion in the fall, long before they claim their marriage hit the skids? Or am I missing something? What's the likely significance of listing KATE's address on the purchase report back in Oct 08?

Just sounds to me like their entire timeline is bogus since first they claimed Jon was MIA in the Jan 09 episodes 'because he was helping his mom recuperate from surgery' - leading us to believe all was well in the marriage after Xmas. But flash forward a few months and they began changing their story, stating they began having serious problems in January (so Jon wasn't really gone to 'help his mom' afterall??!).

K8's claim of not remembering when Jon left is another one that's hard to swallow.

It just seems the more they talk, the more it becomes obvious that it's a Liar, Liar Pants A'Fire situation.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this whole timeline thing?

heavenams said...

I haven't read through all the comments but, the latest news is that there are now protesters in front of their house. While I like the idea of protesting, maybe they should be doing it at TLC headquarters or Khates appearances. I guess she will have to let the kids play in the backyard now instead of parading them out front.

Jacie said...

wow!
what an amazing coincidence and golly gee what luck that kate just so happened to suddenly think of a trip to the beach and was able to "secure" a fully-equipped and stocked beach house during the most popular get-a-way time of the year (march - april) AND pack up all their summer outfits, complete with matching "lifeguard" t-shirts for the boys, swimsuits AND all the beach toys (buckets, shovels, inflatables, etc.) AND get the VP of the security company to just so happen to have TWO whole weeks free to tag along and play boy toy, whipping boy chauffeur, AND have the giant muffin-topped "friend" who must not have a life of her own so she can drop everything and play khate's step 'n fetch it for two whole weeks.... AND have their bus at the ready.

wow....what genius luck!

and we, the public, are just a bunch of stupid robots drinking the khate kool-aid to believe a word of it.

oh...i sooo believe your pack of lies khate (right!)

TLC=The Loser Channel said...

Since Jon and Kate scandal broke out, I am not interested in any TLC show. Some people say other shows are wholesome. Please! It's wholesome for now when nobody is watching. They are still humble. Once you put them on the pedestal and shower them with freebies and money, they all turn into monsters.

Don't forget TLC has the tendency to do product placement on the show, meaning the cast members get freebies and the products get major airtime on the show. And the whole episode is just about how they enjoy the product, TLC producers just script a very simple meaningless fake story. It is actually a commercial instead of a story.

The product placement/freebie thing is going to ruin the cast members' values. Actors and musicians got freebies, at least they use their acting or music talent to sell records, movies, etc. They sort of earned it. Realty shows are basically about nothing, they are cheaply produced. People tune in because there's nothing else on TV. The cast members just drink water, complain a little, then fight with the fellow cast member who happens to be the blood relative. That's NOT talent.

a rose is a rose said...

I think what happened is that they bought the house in the summer of 08' but didn't close on it till the fall. I remember that they were in a hurry to move in and wanted the home right away, so the Dr. and his family living there accomodated them, had a cleaning service come, and shortly thereafter they closed on the house.

Murky timeline said...

OhioBuckeye, I agree, the timeline is very murky. I truly think Kate was going to say that the house belonged to the kids, so she wanted to move in before they actually announced that they'd separated. I think that was the whole "no one in my bedroom under penalty of severeness." She can't stop lying and its all going to catch up.

Lying again said...

Its funny, whenever you try to rent those beach houses, especially where they went in NC, I was told that people rent them a YEAR in advance, let alone months in advance, because all the ones on the beach go first. For Kate to say it was a snap decision, was a bold face lie.

Built on shifting sands said...

Did anyone see the protesters in front of their house with SIGNS? Unbelievable. And some people came from a 4 hour drive to protest them. It mentioned a "few supporters" but still protesters.
The house of cards if beginning to wobble.

xoxo said...

It's all in good fun when the kids were toddlers. Now they are so old and still act like "watch me eat popsicles, yeah!". Give me a break. TLC is dumbing down the 6 years old sextuplets and their preteen sisters who are already carrying purses like teenage girls and dreaming about Jonas brothers.

TLC is also dumbing down America. They just let us watch old kids talking like 2 years old, eating junk food, checking out sponsors' products, using sponsors' products to do a fake camping in their backyard. Come on!

Hidden purchase said...

In the real estate listings was the Heffner address of the house and Kate's attorney as the buyer.

'big bucks later said...

I think when they bought the house it was right at the time that the money started rolling in with the sale of the books, book signings all over the country, the sale of the kids photos for $20.00 cash, the tv circuit, and the church appearences. They probably had enough THEN for the $700,000 downpayment, but not the whole 1.3 million. They really started making the big bucks AFTER the purchase of the home.

Justsayin said...

I am so sick of the stupid line "we don't look back we can only move forward " or whatever the scriped line goes
No Kate you do look back so you learn what not to do in
The future. Like getting married young having twins your spouse & you are happy but YOU WANT MORE WANT
Not need WANT. So you talk NAG your husband for just
One more even though you can't realy aford it so .... You have a litter because that was what GOD wanted???
No.... You silly little girl you couldn't get pregant? You could not even wait to see if you could get pregnate no
It's what you WHANT WHEN YOU WANT IT. There are woman who try & try to have kids and it fails and then finally they have one they are happy and blessed and thank God. These woman look @ you now and shake there heads. Kate God gave you his answer you were not suppose to have all these kids @ such a young age because you wanted it. It will be sad and scary when all
This comes to a crashing stop that's when you will lose your kids. It happens all the time fame is fleating better
People than you have falling in a deep black whole, & you
Have done all this to yourself you have pushed everyone away you have done it all to yourself and I hope that someone will be there for you.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Murky Timeline & Hidden Purchase: thanks for the background info.

So, if the house 'belongs to the children', I presume that even though Kate gets dibs on the Master Bedroom (while, presumably, JonBoy gets the bedroom above the garage), gets to plan HER ('mine, all mine!') kitchen, plus make all the rules (including JonBoy's allowed visit schedule to the mansion), does this mean she gets to basically OWN the place yet not have to claim its financial value when deciding how to split up the assets? Wow, lawyer up good, JonBoy. This is no job for a divorce rookie.

K8 'in a hurry' - wow, imagine that. And the previous owners gave quick occupancy and got a cleaning service to prepare the home for Queen K8's move in, yet the cleanliness of the refrigerator was dissed by Queen K8 on nat'l TV? Wow, that seems a typical K8 show of absolute NONgratitude.

I'm still gagging over what little I saw of the Today Show i'vu with the vulnerable little girl voice and the phony tears-'n'-tissues charade. Today at the grocery, there she was again, on the cover of "People", claiming, "I cry all the time". (No, I did not purchase the magazine.) After 4-5 seasons of watching her as a total succubus, NOW we're supposed to believe she's all vulnerable and just an innocent victim, bravely soldiering on 'for her chiiiildren'??? Puhleeze, TLC, give us a break. We are not buying what you're selling.

Hidden Purchase: "Hefner residence"? Is Hefner the name of the seller of the castle to Queen K8?

Thanks again.

twins said...

"So you talk NAG your husband for just
One more even though you can't realy afford it so "

-------------

That's Kate's old story that she wanted one more. She is lying. Having twins previously, she definitely knew that it's at least 2 more. She couldn't even afford 1, let alone 2.

You are more likely to get twins if you have fertility treatments. And the doctor must have planted more than necessary inside Kate as Kate requested. Women under 30 are not supposed to get that many planted, that's bound to have too many babies they can't afford. Only women after 35 should have that because the procedure has lower successful rate for women after 35.

PA Mom said...

Anonymous Lying again said...

Its funny, whenever you try to rent those beach houses, especially where they went in NC, I was told that people rent them a YEAR in advance, let alone months in advance, because all the ones on the beach go first. For Kate to say it was a snap decision, was a bold face lie.

8/13/2009 3:55 PM
I've stayed here before because actually NC is alot more affordable than South Jersey rentals believe it or not. I don't understand why everyone keeps saying this is an "exclusive area". It's not! For me to obtain a decent rental in Cape May, NJ, I have to start looking in Dec. Anyways, I just looked up rentals for Bald Head Island, and there are plenty oceanfront accomodations for next weekend. May is still considered off season, I dislike kate as much as anyone else, but I'm sure one of the many "helpers" did not have a difficult task.

mommytoo said...

Funny how Kate is playing that she is so sad about the separation when she told Jon they were through momths ago and that he could date as long as he shows up for taping. Everyone is forgetting that. And now every other sentence is about how allshe cares about are her kids. When did that start??? She certainly never showed them or Jon any love or attention before.
This new "poor Kate" act is sickening!

OH Mom said...

hmmm....they said about 40 x's how the current mammouth kitchen was not big enough or conducive to feeding a family of ten (which is really NINE we now know).

I never noticed the last five years in the OTHER house that anyone was starving!!

the only thing I noticed was kate bitching at jon when he tried to cook a korean feast.
seems he did alright then.

these people are the biggest liars on the face of the planet...it's so ridiculous that they cannot even tell the truth.

for goodness sakes...just say "We wanted a FREE kitchen"....Grrrr!

toula31 said...

http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/08/77450/index.html

Has anyone else posted about this? I am so irritated at BOTH parents. Now they are both leaving the kids so they can tell the world how rough it is being parents?!

A Real Cook said...

omgawwwwsh!

now this woman, kate, says that having eggs, bacon and sausage for breakfast is a TREAT!!!!
a RARE treat!!

WTF????
and how in the world did she pull that off in that teeny-tiney, horrendously laid-out kitchen at the beach house?

so....let me get this straight.
You needed a BIGGER kitchen at home with everything all rearranged exactly to your bitchy specifications....just to feed your kids boxed cereal, fruit, cheese and crackers?
and NOT to cook...because having the staple of nearly every red- blooded BIG American family of eggs and bacon is a RARE TREAT????

what is the IQ of these people and their supposed audience?
can somebody please tell me?

is that part of the demographic - you have to have an IQ of no more than 25 to be considered a viable audience member?
the really, really do think people are stupid!

Lower Heidelberg Neighbor said...

Hidden purchase said...
In the real estate listings was the Heffner address of the house and Kate's attorney as the buyer.

Sorry...this is wrong..the buyer was a listed as a trust...unless you do the research you don't know who is the trust beneficiary...could have been her lawyer, the Gosselins or TLC for that matter...

It did however, list the address...but you know they accept no mail or packages, even from FED EX at that address...everything goes through their PO Box

Lower Heidelberg Neighbor said...

Hidden Purchase: "Hefner residence"? Is Hefner the name of the seller of the castle to Queen K8?

Heffner is the name of the road.

I will not name the previous owners. They are wonderful people and I am sure they have suffered enough from this fiasco.

Too much for the beach said...

PA Mom, It was already checked out by bloggers here as well as in the media. That particular Beach House in NC that they all stayed at,
cost Kate $10,000 for the week. I wouldn't exactly call that reasonable. Maybe reasonable for Kate, but not everyday working people. ANYWAY, just for the record.

OH Mom said...

New Title for the show:

Jon & Khate can't keep their lies straight (or str8)

Her "excuse" for going to the beach "last minute" (haha, yea right!) was to "DeStress"
she must have said it a hundred times, how stressful life is and being at the beach was "stressfree".

wellllll....when they get home and she is her usual predictable bitchy, ungrateful self and actually admits it! she says how "stressful" it was being at the beach.

man, that woman is a royal lying beeyatch!

Knitted_in_the_Womb said...

Kate said she had to eat two servings of bacon every day during her pregnancy with the tups. She said they needed the fat and calories to grow stronger while she was carrying them. I have kids (only two) and have never heard such a thing. Of course, I don't have multiples so it could be true.

Ummm...I'm a childbirth educator, and I'd have to say I think this is total bunk.

If she needed help with calories/protein for the tups, there are a LOT healthier sources than bacon.

As for the Hershey bars...chalk that up to being at Hershey Medical Center? Okay...I'll give her a TINY break on that one, only because there is some research that shows that moderate chocolate intake during pregnancy helps to reduce stress, and thus is beneficial.

Pay her dues soon said...

OH Mom, I like your way of stating the truth. Who couldn't DEstress on 26 acres thats all fenced in with a pool and a huge home that shes only occationally in. She had to go all the way to NC for that?Your right, she showed her TRUE colors as soon as she arrived home and barely showed emotion for the beautiful and all completed kitchen. Boy, does she have a LOT of dues to pay in life, just wait.

liza said...

Didn't watch, thank goodness. I have a question, since it appears that neither parent is all that interested in their kids unless the cameras are rolling - how long do you think it will be until one of them "forgets" that it was their week, and the kids are left in that house with only the not-a-nanny and other helpers? Personally, I believe that if the cameras weren't there, it would have already happened. These people are terrible parents.

gone too far said...

Just a comment on one of the boys pouring water on their heads. I'm not sure why a few posters are thinking this is so weird. I have a dayhome and in the summer we pull a wading pool out and a majority of the kids, boys and girls alike, like dumping water on their heads. As long as it's they, themselves doing the dumping and not the other kids. It is a normal kid thing, yes, even at 5 years old.

******
What I found strange about it is:
a: I believe it was the same kid they just showed doing it on last week's show (I could be wrong)
b: He was drinking chlorinated pool water out of a bucket
c: It also appeared he drank some ocean water as he dumped it. Just seemed like some OCD thing to me, and I would not let my kids drink from a bucket like that ::shrug::

-----------------------------

Tami, I do agree with you that if he was drinking it, that is not good, for sure. Dumping is one thing but the little guy needs to be stopped if he's actually drinking it. But yeah, sometimes kid's do weird things. Who would think that dirt tasted good either, but some kids will try to get away with that too.

Tami said...

Tami, I do agree with you that if he was drinking it, that is not good, for sure. Dumping is one thing but the little guy needs to be stopped if he's actually drinking it. But yeah, sometimes kid's do weird things. Who would think that dirt tasted good either, but some kids will try to get away with that too.
******
Oh I know, having wild kids myself and a couple having ADHD..but I think the difference is, I notice my kids doing things and stop them. Hate is too busy getting her 15 minutes of fame in front of the camera getting herself noticed to care what her kids are doing.

Tami said...

what an amazing coincidence and golly gee what luck that kate just so happened to suddenly think of a trip to the beach and was able to "secure" a fully-equipped and stocked beach house during the most popular get-a-way time of the year (march - april) AND pack up all their summer outfits, complete with matching "lifeguard" t-shirts for the boys, swimsuits AND all the beach toys (buckets, shovels, inflatables, etc.) AND get the VP of the security company to just so happen to have TWO whole weeks free to tag along and play boy toy, whipping boy chauffeur, AND have the giant muffin-topped "friend" who must not have a life of her own so she can drop everything and play khate's step 'n fetch it for two whole weeks.... AND have their bus at the ready.
*******
Remember when they went last year and Hate wanted to bring the entire kitchen full of food, pots, pans, etc, so they got a u-haul?? No sign of that on her "instant" vaca this time. So she just assumed it would be stocked with food already, or did she take craft services? What a load of bull. Last year trying to make us believe they did so much work and cooking to get their family transported on vacation was the fake story actually.

News Flash - COPS said...

cops called to Konpound after khate shows up unannounced and reportedly jon does not grant her access ("not your turn...na-na-na-na-na-nahhhh!")

Khate shown the driveway and turns up at the local swanky Days Inn (hee-hee)

Guess she is auditioning for her next reality gig...."whatcha gonna do when they come for you....bad girls, bad girls"

Full report on radaronline:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/08/kate-gosselin-checks-hotel

New Flash Folo said...

hey....just a thought.

why is she checking into the local no-tell, motel?

where are all those "best friends" she name-drops and brags about on the not a reality show?
hmmmmmmmmm???????

rockypriscilla said...

From Radaronline. These poor kids...
``````````````````````````
Police were called to the Gosselin house Thursday night after Jon and Kate got into a heated argument, RadarOnline.com has learned exclusively.

One source close to the situation told RadarOnline.com, "Kate showed up at the house unexpectedly. It's Jon's scheduled time to be there with the kids."

As the couple's marriage has unraveled so has the civility between them. "Kate couldn't get access to the house. She was upset," said the source.

It's not clear who called the police. But it is clear that Jon didn't want Kate there and they argued.

Police arrived but no arrests were made. Kate left and checked into a local hotel.

meg4fancast said...

Reportedly Kate and Jon got in to a huge fight at home tonight and the police were called. Check out the story on Fancast- Did Jon Call the Police on Kate?

Pilgrim Soul said...

I agree, most of the time beach houses need to be booked a year to six months in advance. In this economy, maybe that's not the case, though... Still doubt it was last minute, however.

Ohio Buckeye said...

RockyPriscilla, wowzer, hadn't heard about this altercation.
Trouble in Paradise, eh?

Ever since they announced their joint custody arrangement (with many courses of 'Kate & I will always come together (say it with me now:) FOR OUR CHILDREN', just HOW this was all going to work. K8 has shown herself to be absolutely impossible to work with, muchless please, so it's hard to imagine she'd be capable of the negotiation and compromise required by having the mansion as 'the children's home' while she and Jon maintain their own separate residences. So, it didn't take long for K8 to show her true colors one more time.

I guess if she stayed at the local El Cheapo motel for the night, she surely KEPT HER SHOES ON AT ALL TIMES like she used to make the 8 kids do whenever they spent a night in a motel. Ah, yes, poor, poor K8, having to wear her Manolo B's 24/7, lest she contract some horrible disease from the motel carpeting via bare feet.

All this stress for Saint K8: guess she'll just have to take yet another vaca to the Carolinas because, afterall, divorce and single parenting is just so much harder for K8 than it is for any other single divorced mom on the planet.

"Tears 'n' Tissues" is another new title TLC could try for this joke of a 'reality' show.

marypoppins said...

rockypriscilla said...
From Radaronline. These poor kids...
``````````````````````````
Police were called to the Gosselin house Thursday night after Jon and Kate got into a heated argument, RadarOnline.com has learned exclusively.

One source close to the situation told RadarOnline.com, "Kate showed up at the house unexpectedly. It's Jon's scheduled time to be there with the kids."

As the couple's marriage has unraveled so has the civility between them. "Kate couldn't get access to the house. She was upset," said the source.

It's not clear who called the police. But it is clear that Jon didn't want Kate there and they argued.

Police arrived but no arrests were made. Kate left and checked into a local hotel.

8/13/2009 10:33 PM
_________________________________
If this is true
Anyone else picturing 8 little kids huddled together while thier dad and mom fight;while their dad won't let their mom into the house.

Remy said...

News Flash - COPS said...

cops called to Konpound after khate shows up unannounced and reportedly jon does not grant her access ("not your turn...na-na-na-na-na-nahhhh!")

___________________________________


LMAO...Jon Plus 8 minus Khate. LOL!It really does look as though Jon has finally grown a spine and reclaimed his cojones. Good you for Jon!! So, much for her welcome home bash. This must been Jon's payback move to Khate/TLC for canceling his E! interview on Monday (tee-hee).

Khate is really going to be pissed now. Not only was she booted from her property but she had to check into the Days Inn with the "regular people" a far cry from her swanky NYC hotel stay last week.

I feel a "Wrath of Khon" retalitory attack is now in the works from Khate and her entourage. "Khooooooonnnnn!!!!!"

I wonder if the TLC cameras were around to capture that heated little exchange? I also wonder if the media outlets will get a copy of the 9-1-1 call made to have Khate removed?

This editorial aptly summarizes this entire Konvuleted Gosselin mess.

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20090812/OPINION03/908120335/1360/OPINION0355/-Jon-&-Kate---What-s-the-kids--fate

marypoppins said...

New Flash Folo said...
hey....just a thought.

why is she checking into the local no-tell, motel?
________________________________
Wow, these guys HATE each other

They cant even be civil to each other for the sake of their kids.
(we know they have been bashing each other on interviews, magazines etc)

I guess if he could not be in the house when she is there, then she can't be in the house when he is there.

This really makes me wonder what was really going on behind the scenes all along.

I hope all that money in the bank and apartments and companions and vehicles are comforting them tonight.

Vanessa said...

So they wanted just one more, when they really couldn't afford the two they already had? But they COULD afford the fertility treatments it took to get SIX!!
I call it all bull$#@&! They had a nice nest egg from the inheritance, they both had jobs, they had a house, they were living the middle class life. You got six because you played russian roulette with your uterus! Now suck it up and live with the consequences, do not try and do anything and everything OTHER than raising your brood of kids!

Hiding something? said...

Hmmmm. Wonder what (who) was in the house that Jon didn't want Kate to see.

Hiding something? said...

Never mind. I just read the article. It was the latest not-a-nanny. My goodness that picture of Jon looks like he's put on even more weight. Beer will do that to ya!

Meet Mr. Policeman said...

hate and pimp daddy:

your new talk show circuit - Jerry Springer, Steve, Maury, sky is the limit

yeah, your behavior is all for the kids?? Have you asked them what they think of Mr. Policeman showing up at their "home".aka a television studio complete with lots of "phones"

now instead of talking on their phones, they will start throwing them (teehee)

pond scum, pure and simple

FormerlyFrPA said...

My theory on this latest fiasco of calling the cops - Kate's been living there the whole time. Stays hidden for those days Jon has to film so TLC can splice & dice together what they feel is a cohesive episode.

Only this time, since Kate had so many opportunities this week to tell her tale of woe & Jon was muzzled, he reached his limit!

So if Katie's story is that she goes into hiding when it's Jon's turn to be there, he made damned sure she'd have to leave & get "caught" in the process. Many have speculated as to why there's no pics of Kate coming and going but we see plenty of every one of Jon's trips to & from.

But suddenly we see her checking into a Days Inn! I think they just blew the lid completely off TLC's "game plan".

chesterctymom said...

Just finished reading that Kate had 4...yes 4... police vehicles come to carry her luggage and escort her to her car so that there would not be any pictures of her leaving at 4AM.

Wonder where she was heading at 4AM...back to her house? Guess she got the publicity that she (and TLC) wanted.

read... never posted... until now said...

Okay... read this blog quite often in the last few months. I am disappointed that lately there seems to be more and more bashing of these kids. They are just kids... growing up in a really hard environment. This will effect them, we all know it, but please be respectful of the fact that they are kids! Please don't make fun of Mady, or call out faults of the others. They are only children!

Don'tFlashYourKids said...

this show will end said...
This show will end soon. You can't make money from people's curiosity for years to come. Viewers have very short attention span and they get bored easily. When Kate flaunted her overweight body, tree trunk legs, love handles in Leah's bikini, you know this woman is out of touch with reality. She might be lighter than before but she is nowhere close to parade a bikini in front of paps. Yuck!

----------

The REAL point is not whether Kate's bod is bikini-worthy or not. The point is that it is NOT appropriate for her to be parading around in such a skimpy outfit in front of her small children. They do NOT need to know that much about their own mother!

abbra said...

What goes around comes around and Kate got hers from Jon when he had her tossed from the house. DO you think it has anything to do with Jon's cancelled interview with E? And him being pissed off at not being able to tell his side of the story.

ITA London! said...

London said...
Natalie is right about that. "These kids DO NOT have what it takes to actually make it in the entertainment industry
--------
ITA! When the twins went to the talent agent, Kate was told to put them in acting classes, wasn't she? Of course she never did -- too much trouble. (Like giving them music lessons and expecting kids that young to practice on their own) Kate has such an over-inflated sense of her "fabulishously fabulous" children that she expected them to be hired automatically.
The reality is that they have no training, no special talent, and no self-discipline. Not "star" material.

Disgusted said...

Neither Jon nor Kate is interested in their kids' welfare. I wish those kids had a voice or an outlet. Perhaps one of them will speak up to someone in authority and ask for help. Or perhaps this is wishful thinking.

The irony of a call to the police this week is that Kate just said the other day how easily that she and Jon have agreed on custody and the house. She mentioned this with her own sense of surprise on the show with Regis/Kelly. Well, I guess Jon has decided that if he is not living there, neither is she. But why didn't she just go sleep in the garage apartment???

Finally, flashback to when they showed the kids the master bedroom. Jon took a tour of it with the kids, and frankly he didn't seem to care much about it. Maybe he knew he wasn't going to be in it much, or at all.

I bet the next thing we hear is that someone gets a restraining order. I wish the kids would get one to keep their parents and TLC away! If they were really showing home movies like Kate thinks, why are we seeing the fake made for tv camping instead of the COPS version of mommy and daddy are just having a discussion? And what kids want the memories you have created for them? Oh yeah..Kate wants them to have a fictional memory of a perfect family life when she knows she has failed as a mother. What those kids will watch on the show and what they lived are clearly two very different things. Talk about confused kids.

Rachel said...

LOVED that Jon just admitted (via video interview with People) that they have a "full time nanny who is always here" plus a whole squadron of babysitters to come and help her.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20298031,00.html

And, of course...the big news...Kate called the cops on Jon because he wouldn't let her in the house.

Lower Heidelberg Neighbor said...

Great take on j+K by a single dad

http://dadshouseblog.com/2009/08/05/where-do-jon-and-kate-gosselin-live-in-denial/

Connie said...

abbra said...

What goes around comes around and Kate got hers from Jon when he had her tossed from the house. DO you think it has anything to do with Jon's cancelled interview with E? And him being pissed off at not being able to tell his side of the story.
-----------------------------------
I would imagine Jon was po'd about the cancellation but since Kate was there to complain about the nanny, I think that was a big part of why he kept her out. Why should he have to listen to her when he had the right to be there and she didn't. When I first heard that Hailey is going to be on E! I immediately assumed that she would be telling Jon's story for him. TLC has no power over her!

I know everyone likes to slam Jon as well as Kate, but I just think he is more "real" and more concerned about the kids than Kate will ever be. It takes awhile to regain your balance after 10 years of being knocked down over and over again. Been there done that. And secondly, he STILL has to deal with Kate and her psychotic episodes while trying to protect the kids from her as best he can. He's always said that she's brainwashed them.

Tami said...

Hmmmm. Wonder what (who) was in the house that Jon didn't want Kate to see.
*******
He doesn't have to deal with her being there on his visitation days, that's what. Even if she travels out of town on her days, he is not allowed in. Same with when it is his days. She intruded and got kicked out plain and simple. I wouldn't spend any time with that monster either.

Mystical said...

Caught you again Kate, in your pattern of lies. While she was wiping off the countertop in her luxurious beach house, she casually said this to the camera man. "I don't often do this. I MEAN, I don't often make bacon, eggs & sausage for the kids breakfast. I MEAN maybe I do this once or twice a year." ROFL!!!!! Kate visibilly shuddered as she initially realized she openly admitted she does not often do this/meaning cook a damn thing for HER kids. She has paid help to tend to those matters. So, she kept repeating the words "I MEAN", to cover her fabrications of the obvious truth. But, it's the realist reality show on TV. Sure, Kate.

I liked your recap, Moons In Leo. That man's voice was startling & creepy! But even worse was all the crotch shots of the girl tups on the interview chairs. Come on! As a mom, I was horrified that the Gosselins' allowed such a scene to be shown on TV with the dense population of pedophiles in this country. Just sickening.

Anonymous said...

What a terrible terrible way to lose the souls of those children...give them nothing but one "staged outing/adventure" after another.

Give them special "crooked houses" when so many children have nothing.

Give them "new kitchens"...just because.

Close down cake places just so they can go in and decorate.

It is sad sad sad. What empty shallow people they will grow to be and it isnt even their fault.

toby said...

If there was any doubt before that this was not an amicable divorce, we all know after the Thursday night drama at the Gosselin house that what we are seeing on TLC is pure fiction.

I went through a divorce with kids. It wasn't pretty, but at our worst we never barred each other from the family home. Kate and Jon have a legal agreement barring each other from the family property when the other has "custody?" Wow. There are problems much more serious than their PR people are letting out to the public. Kate had to stand outside the gates, pleading to go inside? And she has issues with Jon's choice(s) of nannies? They have the means to hire the best personnel, through reputable childcare/nanny firms. Where is Jon getting his choice in nannies? From the south of France? Or maybe Legends?

What a very sad disaster this family has turned into. And why aren't "reality" show children subjected to the same legal oversight and standards as child actors in TV shows and movies? It doesn't matter how huge those college funds Kate always brings up if the kids never get off the psychiatrists' couch.

I'd Talk Forever said...

Well, I guess Jon has decided that if he is not living there, neither is she. But why didn't she just go sleep in the garage apartment???

The garage apartment is on the property. Apparently, she's not allowed on the property as evidenced by the fact that he wouldn't open the gate. It's not only the house to which she's not allowed access, it's the entire grounds.

1momski said...

As a clinical social worker who has upgraded my position to that of stay at home mom, I have been reassured to find this site. I have not been a regular audience member of Jon and Kate plus 8 but saw one memorable episode with my daughter. I am referring to the show where she tells one of those boys who is crying that she will throw out his precious stuffed animal because he got gum on it at his aunt's house. Two of the girls were trying to explain to this woman that he played with this aniaml "every single morning". What mother would need to be told this as if she didn't know it was special to him" Kate was in a rage and I remember saying to my daughter "this is child abuse" and switching the TV off. I have followed more of this horrible drama because I, like many, keep expecting someone, some authority to step in and protect the children. The parents are parasitic and incapable, although I had thought from the coverage I had seem that the father was more connected and bonded to those children. He now seems more connected to cocktail waitresses.
Kate is purely narcissitic. She does not consider that the children have a seperate need from her own. As this awful story continues, I would expect advertisers will drop their support as this is too hot too handle and the backlash against these parents grows.
My real fear is that as awful it is to have cameras rolling on this debacle, the cameras will stop before too long. What happens to these children then? Kate will turn on them with fury when she is no longer supported by their celebrity. Even with the camera rolling, she has snapped. I shudder to think what is ahead for these children

This Cannot End Well said...

Well, mark my words. Kate will get even with Jon for the police incident ... even if she was 100% wrong.

She fully expected to march up to that gate and bully her way in. And for someone as controlling as Kate, for her to be told that she had no legal right to be on the property and be asked to leave? That had to be a blow to her ego.

Trust me. I know this type of woman and this will not stand. Before it's over, Kate will have a restraining order against Jon and he'll never have an opportunity to bring a non-Kate approved "babysitter" on the property again.

Part of me feel sorry for him even though he's acting like a grade A douche. Why? Because, legally speaking, not only is he not in the same ballpark as Kate, he's not in the same universe. She's more manipulative, more cunning, and she's been planning this out for months.

He may have won the battle last weekend. But you can bet she'll win the war. And the worst part? He won't even see it coming.

Dee Dee said...

In a divorce, you begin to see the couple as individuals. For example, my parents were thought of as being dramatic. When they split up it became apparent that Dad was dramatic, Mom hardly reacted to anything. In the case of the Gosselins, I can't help wondering which one was religious. Neither seems to be at this point.

All pretenses at religion went out the window after the split. Kate no longer dresses modestly, Jon is bragging about his (previously embarrassing) tattoos. I haven't seen a bible verse hanging around the house since the move. Does anyone in that family still go to church?

If they aren't religious now ... well, that's fine but what was all the extreme religious babble about in the beginning? It seemed to mostly come from Jon but not any more.

moma4faith said...

I want to thank the Gosselins Without Pity family for keeping us up to date on the travesty that is the Gosselin "family". It seems the producers of the show are also keeping up with the GWP blog and implementing as many "rebuffs" or "explanations" to those who watch the show. It is interesting to see something written here and then find a retort on the show within weeks. Way to go GWP!!!

How hilarious that Kate has to explain why she turned her nose up at the kitchen. I think it is more than the morning grumps, Kate!!! I think it is the result of a thankless, soulless, narcissistic personality that will never come to terms or accept responsibility for the heaping loads of abuse forced down the throats of those children.

And how sad for the Gosselin children that they have no family, no normal home life. Just a show that is making their mother rich and their father miserable. Jon is a dud. Kate is a narcissist and a sociopath.