Battleship & Barber, August 17

While away, Kate's planned a special day with the boys and takes them to explore the USS North Carolina battleship. After the battleship adventure, Kate sets out to find a barber shop as the boys are in desperate need of a haircut.

30 minutes

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Chris said...

Nobody cares the boys get a haircut or what not. Lame!

By the way, I don't get it why people keep bashing Jon dating some wild girls. So what?

He married a "good christian girl". We all know what happened. He got abused verbally and emotionally for a decade. Then she kicked him out.

Just like women say "men are all the same" after their men left. I don't think Jon believes any good girl image now. It's all facade. He thinks they all want money and fame. He is just trying to fun now. Whoever is fun and doesn't abuse him, he is happy to date her.

Pilgrim Soul said...

Yawn. I am so not interested in seeing or hearing about the Gosselin North Carolina vacation, even if I was still watching this debacle.

OMG Soooo BOring! said...

Wont' be watching, as I havent' for eaons.\
Sounds incredibly boring, and my own sons need haircuts for school this week, so if I need that kind of EXCITEMENT!, I can just watch them. (IMO), they're cuter than the G kids anyhow.
YAWNnnnnnnnnn-------------

bbaileywier said...

Grow up Jon and act your age! You need to be a little more responsible for your children and lay off the good time charlie act! You have responsabilites to your kids not all these women you are having a good time with. Plus the fact you are taking them into there home and having them babysit for them. Today it is Susie, tomorrow it is another Kate, and the next day it might be Elmira, at least set down with Kate and workout a established list of nannies for these kids and quit confusing them with all your different chicks. What is going to happen when the go back to school and there friends start teasing them about dads adventure at the pool that was on T.V.. How does that make you feel Jon. Proud! You have school age children that has to go to school and put up with the shame that Daddy is bestowing on them with all his different women. I don't care how Christian you are or whatever you are but I do care about what is going to be said to these kids when they are with there peers. I raised three children and I know it is hard for kids in the schools today. And there father sure isn't helping by doing what he is. Grow up and act your age. Kate keep up the good work. I think you have admitted to the mistakes that you made and I think Jon is overstepping his boundries. I think you should go for full custody if he keeps up the good work he is doing right now. Shame on Him!

Mother of 5 said...

I disagree about the boys haircuts.
At least the boys look clean,cool and fresh unlike their poor sisters with hair in their eyes all the time.

I always kept my boys hair short.

Do we really think that Kate would take the boys anywhere of it wasn't filmed? My guess is a LOUD NO WAY!

Oh and BTW....That Kate sure is a fine christian woman telling the boys to SHOOT the paps...Waay to go Kooky Kate...

We said...

bbaileywier,

Jon is responsible to his kids. When he is home he does play with them and probably feeds them real food in the kitchen.

What he does on his own time is his business. Just as Kate did when she was on her stupid book tours.

OverwithKON~~ said...

I still dont get how the *titles* of these episodes are thought up! It must need K8's approval. Seriously, the words start with the same letter, BIG DEAL! And who cares about 5 year old boys getting a haircut? I just have to comment, cuz I cant believe that people still watch this crap! Yawn...... oh and never watching! Recaps are sooooo much better!

AnneMarie said...

Bad Haircut Family said...
I wish she would really stop giving them buzz haircuts. They are not cute at all. I call them lazy people haircuts because moms who don't want to do upkeep on a decent haircut use them. They are also known as trailer park haircuts. Not cute at all, Kate!

8/16/2009 2:04 PM
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Oh please!

My son has had one since he was 12 weeks old! (Now 10)

We're military. It's a classic clean haircut.

Move along.

keeblerc said...

Frankly, I think both of them are behaving poorly-- or as my grandmother used to say "they're making spectacles of themselves." And you're right to point out these children have to go to school and deal with other kids teasing them and likely saying some hurtful things. Yes, kids can be cruel at any age, in any school, from any social strata. That's just a fact of life. So both parents need to "get on the clue bus" (borrowed that one from my daughter) and be more discreet and conscientious for the sake of their children.

I agree with everyone who says this episode sounds like a yawnfest. I haven't watched them in over a year but isn't NC and getting the boys hair cut a been there/done that sort of thing?

Did anyone see that Kate and the eight's home is being picketed these days? Saw a photo this morning of a man and woman holding a sign saying "This Is Not About Jon. This is not about Kate. What About the Eight??!!"

pinkdiamond611 said...

The Battleship NC is located in Wilmington, NC. It is not some town in the middle of nowhere. I am sure there many qualified barbers located there. Of course, there might have been a problem of finding one to do it for free, with Khate giving them orders to boot.

TandLMommy28 said...

ANOTHER episode about haircuts? Are you kidding me? How desperate are they?

My entire family got haircuts last Saturday. All four of us. I'll tell you all about it! Girls went to one place, boys across the street to another. Oddly,us girls finished first and had time to sneak over to Culver's for a frozen custard before the boys got done. The boys came to pick us up and caught us with the evidence (a Culver's bag). Then we had to share what was left!

I guarantee you that our haircut experience was far more exciting than what TLC is trying to pass as "entertainment."

brenda said...

"Jon and Kate have moved on with their lives -- it's only the viewers who haven't moved on," explains Hailey.

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No you idiot. This viewer moved on 2 seasons ago. Your boyfriend Jon is a hasbeen washed up reality show loser. Maybe you should move on, Hailey dear.

Connie said...

@ bbaileyweir

WHEW!! and the WHEW again!
I respectfully disagree with just about everything you posted but I'm not going to write volumes to dispute your claims. You seem to be privy to much more information than the rest of us! However, I am curious about one statement you made...just what mistakes has Kate admitted to??

ANNA said...

The boy's haircuts look no different than what you see on the majority of boys these days. Calling them 'trailer park haircuts' is just another example of looking for something to complain about when there isn't anything. And the boys are definitely cute! The cuts are short, neat and easy to keep clean.

Comb their hair said...

The boys have much better hair cuts then their sisters.The girls always have their hair in theie eyes. Notice after they have their hair washed it looks as it all the girls have combed it by themselves.
Mothers usually have a straight part and it looks a little pulled back from their face and somewhat fluffed out......Not these poor girlies.

Sheeple said...

Do I get to see the boys get a HAIRCUT!?!? How exciting! They are ever so cute. I just love Kate. She is such a lovely parent. Deep down inside I wish I was Kate.


LOL! Sheeple thoughts.

This sounds like another boring, manufactured (Kate centered) episode.

Will NOT be watching.

moi said...

Haircuts? *yawn*

And maybe Kate's PR never told her, but there's a battleship and a submarine right in Penn's Landing, Philadelphia, not far from her at all.

Or, and it's more likely, this was just more driving hither-thither-and-yon for show opportunities.

What an empty life that woman has.

concerned said...

First haircuts are a major event. Haircuts for five year old boys are boring. And so is watching them touring the North Carolina. That's a typical beach vacation day trip in that part of the US.

This episode sounds as boring as watching someone else's home movies.

Cancel this show, please.

a rose is a rose said...

Kate has NEVER taken the blame for ANYTHING, nor has she once, in all the years the show has been on, said "I'm sorry", never.
If anyone can think of one time, I'd love to know.

She should really know work said...

What a vacuous and useless life she lives. She is her own best friend. To actually make an episode about 5 yo boys getting haircuts, is wasted film and time.
The things that all of us do without a thought, is portrayed as a major project for Kate, and camera worthy. Its sickening.

Mindy said...

Yay, another excuse for K8 to berate her boys for being themselves.

Yay.

ANNA said...

I don't think you have to be a military family to prefer short hair on boys. It is simply cleaner, neater and easy to care for, especially in the summer. I see boys with short buzz type cuts all the time. And why so much dismay over the girls cuts? Girls with long hair is pretty common. Altho a scrunchy would come in handy at times to keep it out of the face.

NN said...

Good grief...I can't believe what has become of these epidodes. I mean really, who wants to see these kids get another haircut? TLC is really reaching now to get a new episode...pathetic.

I am soooo done with all of it. I feel like bashing my brains into a brick wall everytime I hear someone defend Kate like she is some poor pitiful little flower who has been wronged by her manwhore of a husband.

I am also done with Jon...he had an opportunity to come out of all of this smelling like a rose but what did he do? He f'd it all up by becoming a jackass. Now look what has happened, Katie Irene has drummed up a ton of sympathy from people who at one time couldn't stand her.

I have to hand it to Kate tho, the woman is an evil genius. Somehow she has managed to divert the negetive attention she once harboured into a poor poor pitiful me routine and people have fallen for it hook, line and sinker. Imagine what she could do in this world if she used her powers for good instead of evil!!

You are fooling some people Kate, a lot in fact. But I along with many many more are on to your game. All good things come to an end baby so enjoy the sunset of what is left of your "fame"!!

But I'm not bitter!lol

MayDay said...

You don't ever see the girls wearing their hair in little " pig tails"or up in a "ponytail" like most 5 year old girls do. You can tell when "not the nanny" does their hair it is either that Princess Laya(? sp)look or pulled so tight in french braids. Both looks are not flattering on the little girls. In my opinion, they need bangs.

Peg said...

It was a big deal here when I gave my 2 autistic sons a haircut at home for the first time. Don't think anyone else would be interested in it though.

This is supposed to make a show? K8 making her sorry attempt to look like she is nice to her sons, then get haircuts? Please! What a joke.

sickandtwisted said...

She should really know work said...
What a vacuous and useless life she lives. She is her own best friend. To actually make an episode about 5 yo boys getting haircuts, is wasted film and time.
The things that all of us do without a thought, is portrayed as a major project for Kate, and camera worthy. Its sickening.

8/16/2009 5:12 PM

What is so utterly sick and twisted to the whole thing is that Kate actually believes that taking her MALE CHILDREN to get a hair cut or spending HER time with 'just the BOYS' is going above and beyond HER parental 'call of duty'.

Enough Already said...

Wow! What a trooper she is and what an exciting TV viewing experience that will be - NOT! I would however, watch if it was Kate getting a buzz cut - now that would be entertainment.

If TLC thinks the viewing audience wants to see this, then they really are grasping for show ideas. I guess they could have done a cross over show and had Jon and Kate's police visit featured on COPS. That might have drawn an audience or feature their divorce in "Divorce Court".

As far as the children are concerned I am very sad for all of them. TLC's producers, Jon and Kate are all very sick individuals to be doing all of this at the expense of those children. TLC, stick a fork in it, it is done.

Sarolite said...

I know they're 5 now and not getting free cuts anymore, but maybe she should take them to the business that gave them free cuts for 5 years, to reward them for their kindness.

If nothing else, to not have to "seek out to find a barber shop." Really? Used the same one for 5 years, and now she can't find any?

Tiger Lily said...

Does anyone remember the kids' salon that offered the tups free haircuts until they were five? Poor, poor Khate. She now has to find a way to pay for the boys' haircuts. Everyone needs to remember that she is a single mother who is struggling to do the best she can for her kids (gag). I wonder if she used a coupon for the haircuts? Nah, she probably got the haircuts free because the barber shop had the privilege of her royal presence.

rockypriscilla said...

Bad Haircut Family said...
I wish she would really stop giving them buzz haircuts. They are not cute at all. I call them lazy people haircuts because moms who don't want to do upkeep on a decent haircut use them. They are also known as trailer park haircuts. Not cute at all, Kate!
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My son likes his hair cut short. Yes it is easier, that's just an added bonus. No, we do not live in a trailer park. Boys these days are wearing their hair longer (like Zac Efron's before he cut his hair short) and personally, I can't stand it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I would never post calling all moms lazy because of a haircut. If my son wanted that, I would bite my tongue and let him, but thank God he likes it short. The Gosselin's have a ton of problems, haircuts are not one of them. That being said, what a boring episode.

fidosmommy said...

Haircuts are boring enough when it's my hair getting cut. If TLC thinks I will tune in to watch 3 little boys come out looking exactly like they did a month ago, they are wrong.

As far as the girls go, hairbrushing is a learned thing. Someone has to take the time to teach little children how to part their hair, how to brush it thoroughly (not just skim the top with a brush) and make it a normal part of the day. Cara and Mady have very thick hair and it looks like it's got a mind of its own.
I'm not sure it it can be shaped into a more dry-and-go style or not. The younger girls seem to have much thinner hair which has
little shape to it.

But no matter what kind of hair you are born with, somebody has to take the time to teach you what to do with it. Therein lies the problem with the hair in that house.

ANNA said...

Some comments make it sound like Kate decides what is shown on each show. I doubt Kate said "let film the boys getting haircuts". I'm sure it was a production decision, not Kate's. So blame TLC for a 'boring' episode, not Kate.

Tangerine Tanya said...

Anna said:

And why so much dismay over the girls cuts? Girls with long hair is pretty common. Altho a scrunchy would come in handy sometimes to keep it out of the face.
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I agree about the scrunchy Anna or better yet a cloth /elastic headband. Howver when Kate is on duty all we ever see it hair in their faces.
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MayDay said:

In my opinion they need bangs.
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MayDay I completly agree with you.
Remember when Cara and Mady were four years old and they had bangs?

Remember when little Leah was in the van tellinging Jon "Don't forget out book bags" and her hair was completly covering her face?

Brit said...

It's not so much about their getting a haircut is boring. It's the fact that these kids are getting older and really spoiled. They are less imaginative and magical. Spoiled children are not cute. Period.

Anyway, it's not the kids' fault they are not cute anymore. All the family drama, ugly argument between parents, and twisted reality like all the public outings are sponsored and all the family activities are part of the marketing and ad campaign, it killed their innocence already.

Flobee For Khate said...

Based on the style the boys tend to wear, I'm surprised Thrifty Do-It-Myself Single Mom Kate doesn't just buy a $20 pair of clippers from Target and do it herself? Or make Jon do it?

I'd even expect her to spout some sort of sexist garbage about how boys don't need "real" hair-cuts, whereas girls NEED to go to the salon.

Tami said...

I have a hard time believing those boys are on vacation and Kate "needs to find them somewhere to get a haircut". Has their hair ever looked long enough to "need" a haircut quickly? Not to me. On the last show it sure didn't look that way. I read comments from military families about the short haircuts. That is odd to me that so many said how common buzz cuts are in children of military. They're not where we have been stationed. We are Air Force and the sons of military we see actually do not usually wear their hair super short all that often. My son and his friends wear theirs a bit longer, although lately I have cut my son's hair shorter than he used to wear it. I don't really see a haircut as a cleanliness thing because he washes it just as often as anyone with shorter hair would, same with a girl who would keep hers clean even if it's not super short. Finally, the comments about the girls not brushing their hair-my 4 year old loves to brush hers and spends a great deal of time doing it. I really hope by now the girls would know how to brush their own (since someone mentioned they need to be taught how).

Tami said...

Based on the style the boys tend to wear, I'm surprised Thrifty Do-It-Myself Single Mom Kate doesn't just buy a $20 pair of clippers from Target and do it herself? Or make Jon do it?

I'd even expect her to spout some sort of sexist garbage about how boys don't need "real" hair-cuts, whereas girls NEED to go to the salon.

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I'll bet she could get someone else to do it free for the advertisement. She did used to bring the girls to the same boys barbershop since it was free. She could get one of those flow-bee things and do it herself or get the nanny to do it if she can't get more freebies.

Tuesday said...

Thrilling! I can't wait to see it. I have no better use of 30 minutes of my life.

chesterctymom said...

It is a shame that after getting FREE haircuts for 5 years, Khate is no longer taking the boys there now that she has to pay. A haircut at a barbershop is much cheaper than a salon.

Not nice.

kate is a cocky bitch said...

who thinks Queenie actually paid for the haircuts?

LC said...

What Kate is doing to her children is not any different from those bad parents making their kids perform on the street or sell bubblegum at the movie theater in those less advanced countries.

Kate is using her children begging for freebies by playing cute. It is very upsetting.

I also notice that Mady is very camera conscious. Sometimes she poses for paps like hugging her mother, making Kate lift her up, playing cute in front of her father. The body language is quite different from older episodes. She just seems to pose more. She thinks posing like that to help her parents look good will make her parents love her more. She seems to love the attention and all the perks just like Kate. She will be in a state a shock someday when TV show and paps are gone, a nervous breakdown and depression will happen to her. She will blame her parents for everything.

Tyra said...

Wow, Kate! You are the mother of all mothers.That horrible task of getting those icky boys' haircuts! What a dreadful chore. First, you round up the boys, load them in the $65,000 SUV, then plop your ass down in the driver's seat. On to the barber shop. Then you must unload the boys from that expensive SUV (which those icky boys helped pay for btw) when you reach the barber shop.Then you all go in the shop and you again plop your fat ass down in a chair(wonder if it was white and plastic)and watch while those icky boys get their buzz cuts.Wow,just Wow. Kate, you have my vote for mother of the year.

goawayfools said...

Sure would be nice if the Gosselins stopped segregating their kids based on sex, especially in light of Kate's rampant sexist views. (Girls are better at this, boys are awful at that, etc.) How about mixing it up a little?

NN said...

It is a shame that after getting FREE haircuts for 5 years, Khate is no longer taking the boys there now that she has to pay. A haircut at a barbershop is much cheaper than a salon.
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I had the same thought. Why would she not now support the business who did something so kind and generous for her family for so long. I would even be bringing my dog there so show my gratitude. Still goes to show that the minute things are not free or someone is not providing a wanted service to this family, they are done, out of their lives for good...how ungrateful!!!

Chione said...

Haircuts...on vacation?!

Is it that important to get the boys a haircut? Surely it can wait until you get home, Kate.

Oh wait, everything must be absolutely perfect in Queen Kate's kingdom. God forbid she has to wait for anything, right?

Excess corrupts said...

There is nothing endearing about spoiled children. I do not think that one person on this site that has overindulged their children or know of children that have been given the excess that the 8 have been given. Its sinful.

She pays for Nothing said...

Kate did not pay for the haircuts, TLC footed the bill, per locals.
Kate pays for NOTHING. If its on film its TLC paying. So sick.

stopthemadness said...

I do feel sorry for Mady and Cara, their little 4th grade friends are just at the age where relationships with boys become interesting, it's the age of Spice Girls and Britney Spears and what boys are cute and like you. This pair of sisters stands no chance if their dad continues to behave as he does and the pap continue to care and report on it. "Your dad left you so he can date girls" - nice.

I did notice that Kate in her never ending plea to get others to DO for her and to ride the backs of her children, asked Aadan (stupid spelling of a pretty name) if he was going to take care of her some day. SOME day? Like how about today? She never quits on the hunt for freebies, it's kind of sickening, she's like a bag lady with money, pushing her cart around and filling it with free treasures. Worse. She's been on this "i need help, who will help me and do for me and give me" since her pregnancy.Now Aaden's got to take care of her when she's old? Because Jon has abandoned them and will not be there to take care of her? When will Kate stand on her own feet, when will Can Beg become Can Do?

No, I won't be watching her kids get a hair cut, although that and sitting on a docked boat may be the highlight of their summer it's not interesting, she is so conscious of the camera on her and plays to it constantly, watching rich people go on a scripted vacation isn't something that interests me unless the place is a lot more intersting than an old battleship. Kate, tell your handlers america wants to see Gosselins Go to Paris or Down Under. You're losing us.

Any viewer who doesn't tune in helps send the greed heads at TLC the message that Gosselins 150 minutes are up (15 for each of them).

Army Mom said...

Bad Haircut Family said...I wish she would really stop giving them buzz haircuts. They are not cute at all. I call them lazy people haircuts because moms who don't want to do upkeep on a decent haircut use them. They are also known as trailer park haircuts. Not cute at all, Kate!

Sorry but I have to disagree with you on this one. My husband was in the Army and when our son was little he wanted a buzz cut like all the "army guys" that his dad commanded. Additionally, he had/has baby fine hair and we could never get his hair to part. He is now 27 and still wears his hair in a buzz.

Ms.Peach said...

Who wants to watch kids whine and squirm when they get a haircut. Been there, done that! Boy, wish I could have gotten paid $75,000 for taking my son for his haircut!

Most definitely this show has jumped the shark, and I say it's about time. The kids are spoiled, Kate is gross, and Jon can't keep his pants zipped. Yeah, good family entertainment. Let's hope the advertisers wise up.

Amanda S said...

If it is being shown on the show, TLC is paying for the haircuts.

NYMom said...

Why would you waste time on vacation getting your kids haircuts? Wouldn't you rather swim, sightsee, explore, relax? I'm sure the kids would rather play at the beach or the pool than get dragged to the hair salon. Just more evidence that the life we see on this show is totally fake!

Geri said...

kate is a cocky bitch said...
who thinks Queenie actually paid for the haircuts?

*****

I don't think she had to pay for the haircuts. She snuck them into the storyline of the show......therefore TLC would pay for them IMO.

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2badsosad said...

Another episode of 'I Can Do' Kate spending time with her children in a PREDICTABLE and CONTROLLED environment.

Crayola Kate said...

Just saw the Crayola Factory episode, Kate made the entire family miserable by insisting the children's clothes had to be kept spotless - which meant they couldn't play with markers or be at any play station where there was potential for mess. All because she wanted their clothes to remain pristine, so she could sell them for top dollar. Those are the memories your children will have Kate, every outing they were controlled and limited and denied just so you could feel better about keeping their clothes spotless. You deserve all the tears you shed.

Moons in Leo said...

I suspect this 'episode' was taped and is running solely to show that Kate actually can relate to her boy-children, unlike her boy-husband.

As far as its 'entertainment' value, I suspect we will soon be watching 'Gosselins and Grass Mowing' and 'Tups Watch Paint Dry.'

say what? said...

bbaileywier said...
... Kate keep up the good work. I think you have admitted to the mistakes that you made and I think Jon is overstepping his boundries. _______

Yeech. I must've missed that episode.

Gina said...

I just saw the commercial for the trip with the boys. She is telling one of the boys to shoot at the papparazi. OMG this "mother" pimped her children out for years to come so she could quit working. She doesn't care about their life only what $$ she can make from them and she doesn't like the press? You knew what you were getting into when you sold your children out. I've seen two episodes and thought she was such a obnoxious witch I never watched again. I'm sick to death of her money grubbing face.

SKB516 said...

I can't wait to see what kinds of complaints Khate's going to have about my hometown. I'm sure she will gripe about the P-people being around her. The same P-people who have never shown any interest in following the real actors who live & visit here around! I'm assuming she's going to get the hair cuts at a salon downtown since that's where the battleship is & the only place she was spotted in Wilmington as far as I know. If that's the case, most of those salons are quite pricey. I'm sure she isn't paying for it anyway, but it's still ridiculous to drag 5-year-old boys into an upscale salon to get buzz cuts. But I'm sure Khate wouldn't be caught dead in a Great Clips or similar establishment.

Katerina said...

Crayola Kate said...

Just saw the Crayola Factory episode, Kate made the entire family miserable by insisting the children's clothes had to be kept spotless


You know what? Frankly I now believe Kate's clean-freak/germophobia was a fictitious thing created by TLC to make her more eccentric, and therefore interesting to gawk at. Remember when she got caught standing barefoot at a gas pump (due to an editing slip-up no doubt)and then making up some really stupid excuse as to why. I also believe her everything-must-be-organic mantra was BS. So was all her uber-Christian malarkey...the bible sayings posted all over the house, the spouting...all made-up to woo a certain audience and get handouts and scam churches.

Now that her hair, boobs, tummy, nails and who knows what else are fake, the only thing real left of her--and the only thing that was ever real--is her entitled attitude and the way she uses people and steps on everyone in her path.

NoWayOut said...

OverwithKON~~ said...
I still dont get how the *titles* of these episodes are thought up! It must need K8's approval. Seriously, the words start with the same letter, BIG DEAL! And who cares about 5 year old boys getting a haircut? I just have to comment, cuz I cant believe that people still watch this crap! Yawn...... oh and never watching! Recaps are sooooo much better!

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And when Kon talks about something they talk in episodes (i.e. "we did that on pankcakes and pottys" or "yeah that was on the mady's special day")

They aren't living a real life they are "trapped" in an alternate TV universe and poor things, they can find their way out....

emmasmommy said...

How come it takes DIVORCE to want to spend quality time with the boys. She has always set them to the side. Ok, now you want to connect with them.
It seems to me that all this "for my kids" attitude is plain and simple COMPETITION w/ Jon.

Jon has always been very hands on type of father. Even when he was working full-time he would come home and partake in helping Kate w/ whatever she needed him to do. She took advantage of him.

I am glad she did not let her intervene with his time. She can no longer control him and that set her insides on fire. She will NEVER be happy.

Does anyone remember the episode where Jon was rollerbladding w/ Cara at their old house and she was outside w/ the kids. She was PISSED OFF at Jon about going too fast for Cara and to come play with his other kids. HER FACE WAS FUMING. She had her hands crossed and in fist mode. I remember thinking w/o a doubt I am pretty sure she physically abused him. If on camera she lets her guard down I can only imagine when they are no longer rolling. Those kids have been subjected to domestic violence. Why else would anyone explain the amount of hitting they do. Especially Mady. She seemed (when I use to watch) to be unable to keep her hands to herself.
Her parents brushed it off but they could not fool me..I saw red flags then and well look where they are at now.

PA Midstate Mommy said...

Bad Haircut Family said..."I wish she would really stop giving them buzz haircuts. They are not cute at all. I call them lazy people haircuts because moms who don't want to do upkeep on a decent haircut use them. They are also known as trailer park haircuts. Not cute at all, Kate!"

Hold on a minute! I am by no means lazy, and I don't live in a trailer park, yet my 10 year old son has a buzz cut. This is his preference because he plays a lot of outdoor sports, and with hot, humid PA summers, it's simply the most comfortable. At ten years old, he's not especially worried about maintaining a style. Let's watch the name-calling, please!

Kristi said...

Hilarious comment in the new In Touch (I swear the cover was Gosselin free and I really needed something to read while the kids played at McD's). Anyway, there's two separate pics of Mady and Kate with one of the dogs. The quote reads..."Just like her mom, Kate, little Mady Gosselin, 8, is a natural caretaker with a love of animals". What? Have they seen the show? Kate doesn't take care of her kids let alone those dogs!!! The pic of Kate is her brushing the dog. She has a really pissed off expression on her face and is looking up to make sure the cameras are catching her. Any wagers on if a new episode shows "can-do Kate" lovingly taking care of the dogs...by herself since Jon isn't around to be responsible for them??? Obviously they are trying to address all the complaints from this website. The dog issue is next!

KatiePrays said...

I just want to know if anyone noticed that in this week's "In Touch" magazine, they switched the boys names? Joel and Collin? They got them wrong on the 2 page spread in the magazine... pointing to each child and giving a brief summary of the child's personality and their name. They mixed up Joel and Collin! Who proof reads this??

Just Wondering .... said...

I was just on here to see if and when the show will be cancelled. Guess not yet....

AnneMarie said...

OK, I'm one of the nutters that had their child's haircut on vacation, once at Floyd's barbershop in Mt Airy, NC, and the other at the barber shop on MainStreet at Disney World.

Snap! said...

I wish my boys would get buzz cuts-they are both teens and hate getting haircuts- buzz them as long as they will let you! I think it's ok to buzz them as long as the boys like it.

The other comment I have is- it's about time Kate goes out with the boys- I never understood the division of the children by sex- why didn't Kate go along on the boys' special outings- and why can't she give them pedicures minus the polish- and finally why can't the boys help out in the kitchen? The boys are always ignored in the family unless they are being filmed- there is a sadness about them-

MayDay said...

Oh geeze Ann Marie, you just gave TLC and Kate a new show idea. Why not have the boys next hair cuts done in Disney World on Main Street? That is providing that they will allow her in after the scene she made with the ice cream.

emmasmommy said...

I saw a clip for tonight's show and she tells the boys to shoot the bad guys..p people.

Uhm, Kate uhm, as I recall the p people did not cause trouble in your uhm, marriage.
The P people as you call them really mean Paying People in your book. IDIOT.

Uhm Kate if you detested the P's your ass will remain in hiding and hid your children from them also, by NOT giving them their shots.

Kate is a famewhore and nothing else matters to her. She loves to see her pic's on these gossip mag's
So sad for the kids. Such a shame.

ihatethisshow said...

this morning on A&E, I watched a few episodes concerning people suffering from OCD. For kate and tlc to say that kate suffers from this, is an insult to those that really suffer. everything about j&K plus eight is a lie. everything. she rode that gravy train as long as she could!
some people that comment here complain that the show is now more about the parents than the kids...heck, isn't that a GOOD thing?
kate isn't OCD. She is just a rude, selfish, greedy narcissist. she will never change.
so many episodes she asks the kids if they will love or take care of her when she is old....it is always about HER!
thanks for letting me vent! lol!!

Tami said...

You know what? Frankly I now believe Kate's clean-freak/germophobia was a fictitious thing created by TLC to make her more eccentric, and therefore interesting to gawk at. Remember when she got caught standing barefoot at a gas pump (due to an editing slip-up no doubt)and then making up some really stupid excuse as to why. I also believe her everything-must-be-organic mantra was BS. So was all her uber-Christian malarkey...the bible sayings posted all over the house, the spouting...all made-up to woo a certain audience and get handouts and scam churches.
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TLC themselves can be quoted as saying, "There has to be something more to watch, something interesting, some kind of conflict". I remember they said something almost exactly like that when people were questioning whether octomom would get a show too. And then when KON was wrapping up last season and talking about how one wanted to continue on, the other wanted to stop, Kate says, "There. There's the conflict" (paraphrasing). So I do believe they create crap just to make it "interesting". Yet it all seems so fake now.

John and Kate who cares said...

With events such as Columbine and Va Tech shootings and having metal detectors in schools, way to go Khate and TLC. Let's teach our children to shoot at people! Go ahead and encourage it. Certainly is a lesson we want our children to LEARN. NOT!

stopthemadness said...

Katerina said...
You know what? Frankly I now believe Kate's clean-freak/germophobia was a fictitious thing created by TLC to make her more eccentric, and therefore interesting to gawk at.... I also believe her everything-must-be-organic mantra was BS. So was all her uber-Christian malarkey...the bible sayings posted all over the house, the spouting...all made-up to woo a certain audience and get handouts and scam churches.
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Believe it. They had their "green episode" showing the three tiny containers for recycling that wouldn't work for a family of mice never mind for ten people, and then Kate is on every episode with the paper plates and yards and yards of paper towels, she is the antithesis of green. Cases of Clorx wipes and other chemical cleaners go onto the cart at Sam's Club but yet have some organic expert on to show them how to use vinegar in water to clean - as if! The positioning of Kate is trendy - organic and green, are some of the latest things.
Her neatness issue or aversion to dirt is there to make a really nothing person with no type of talent or noteworth personality traits seem interesting, but does it? I doubt the dirt bothers her that much, what bothers her is that SHE has to or used to have to, clean it. Look at her feet.

As far as TLC highlighting her eccentricities, the bitchiness is probably played up - they like choosing shots of Kate berating Jon and screaming, being a smart ass to those who are there to help her - but it's obviously not FAKED in the same way as her germophobia is. The blatant sexism and preference for her girl children also seems real, sadly. The boys are second class citizens in that house, from Dad on down, clumsy, dirty, noisy, icky and "from another plantet".

TLC likes families who are outside the norm. Dwarves, wild eyed evangelicals, people with 18 kids. Having sextuyplets isn't all that abnormal - there are three or four other families like that on tv and as for 8 kids - big deal - Duggars got them beat by ten kids! Can't they find something interesting about this family to highlight, without pigeonholing all the children and encouraging Kate to be a neurotic ill tempered b*tch? Doesn't anyone have any real personality that is worth talking about? (Not Jon certainly, he's "cool and likes fast stuff" augh!)
I have never seen such UNEXAMINED people, they don't seem to know themselves never mind their children - or allow them to venture out of the box they are in, the boys are three individuals not a SET. These kids are going to have identity and boundary issues if they don't get some time away from being the "stubborn, noisy boy tup" or the "little professor."

fidosmommy said...

I'll pay the salon to carve little
words into the boys' hair - words like "Free Me!" or "HELP!" or such.
Or a symbol.

Watching Kate melt down would be worth the price.

;-)

CutOnVacAlso said...

yah, me too. We got our boys cuts in Sevierville, TN last year or so...it was right before school and once we got back home we weren't going to have time....
We paid for them ourselves, though....stupid US. And no one was interested.

jasmine said...

I wonder how much the haircuts were worth? $25,000, $50,000, $75,000? For that much money, I would get a buzz haircut. On second thought, someone could buzz cut my entire family and pets. Maybe I'd watch the show if Kate and Jon were getting their heads shaved also. Then Kate could wear her wig and Jon could wear her hats, or they could wear both.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Since my home remains a Gosselin Free Zone, I'll not be watching this or any other episodes, but if TLC and K8 believe this new format of separate episodes for respective parents, they are delusional.

The only thing that could possibly be worse than this new format and the new & 'improved' K8 would be K8 getting her wish of getting her own ("mine, all mine!") talk show! We can just add that one right now to the list of TLC programming disasters. Oy ve.

Looking f'ward to GWoP's recap - these recaps are ALWAYS far better than the actual J&K+8 episodes.

franky said...

Not watching TLC until this show is gone.

Besides, the episode re-caps here are better than the show will ever be, at least they make me LOL.

stopthemadness said...

Taking my 18 YO daughter to Julie/Julia tonight (leaving my icky noisy boys home, of course, since cooking movies are for girls!!) but will get home afterwards to see if the recap is up.

On haircuts, I like bangs and collar length Dutch bob hair on little girls, it looks so neat and put together, or that Cleopatra cut with the long bangs and hair just up to the top of the neck in back but tapered to hit the collarbone in front and I think it'd look awesome on the girls, for boys a buzz cut or any short cut is fine as long as it is clean and dosen't stick up idiotically - I'm less worried about their hair than the constant looks of stress or anxiety on the little kids' faces now, and the non stop SCOWL on Madelyn and hang dog pout on Cara. Between that and the braces on Mady the poor kids just look miserable.

Life is not all about maintenance, it would be nice if Kate could focus on something other than their dentist barber or whatever. Their clothes and shoes and hair --given that they must take what they get it they want all freebies--, are fine. I think the matchy matching on the tups is a little overdone considering they have no outside friends or interests why not let them dress themselves and start to individualize a little that way. But it would be nice to see Aaden have a play date with some other kid, or any of them to get to go anywhere or do anything that wasn't scripted and followed by an intrusive arse with a camera stuck to his face. They are dressed up like show ponies and kept in a certain place until it's time to perform in their matching suits. HOpefully that will be coming to an end along with this boring show of the family that fell apart.
Let the parents go out and work some on their own, get the focus off the poor kids for a change although I am sick of looking at Jon's smug face, it would be refreshing to see him and the missus face the REALITY of divorce and supporting your children instead of being supported by them.

Kathi D said...

I'm thinking Jon should start dating a hairdresser so that they can all get clipped for free. I'm sure he would be willing to sacrifice for the cause of frugality.

Kathi D said...

Hmm, let's see. Haircuts, dentist, doctor visits, camping in the back yard. All repeats.

I think they need new ideas. What about

Standing outside a bakery smelling bread baking

Watching grass grow

Spitting watermelon seeds

Pooping (oops, did that already)

Christian said...

This comment hit the nail on the head. I agree 100%:

"First haircuts are a major event. Haircuts for five year old boys are boring. And so is watching them touring the North Carolina. That's a typical beach vacation day trip in that part of the US.

This episode sounds as boring as watching someone else's home movies.

Cancel this show, please."

Place ur Bets said...

We're watching the last season for sure. However, 3 million viewers is still alot for cable, if they can get anyone of the other shows to perform on that level they would drop Kon like a hot potato. Maybe we should make another show a hit so they'll cancel this one.

BTW, someone commented that in Life and Style they "mislabeled" the kids, I've seen the kids given the wrong name, here, in mags, and on tv. No one really cares about the kids they are eight little "cute" things to some people.

I'd Talk Forever said...

I think they need new ideas. What about

Standing outside a bakery smelling bread baking

Watching grass grow

Spitting watermelon seeds

Pooping (oops, did that already)
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How about an episode in which Kate's in line at the grocery store flipping through a tabloid, when she reads, "TLC Cancels Jon & Kate." The look on her face would be priceless. I'd watch that episode, and it's one we haven't seen before.

pressured cooker said...

I've seen the kids given the wrong name, here, in mags, and on tv. No one really cares about the kids they are eight little "cute" things to some people.


Which is exactly why I find it a little disturbing to see the younger children referred to as "the tups". To me, it seems to strip them of the individuality as much as dressing them identically.

Kiss off Kate said...

speaking of separate episodes for each parent...Don't you think it would really drive that witch batty if Jon's episodes recieved higher ratings than hers? I really want the whole thing cancelled altogether but I would watch Jon's episodes over Krazy Kate's if I knew it would piss her off.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

The boys are so brave walking through that scary ship!

Ava said...

Oh, I forgot, did they FREE haircuts end at age 5? She said this was only the second time they had their hair cut anywhere different. I thought in the episode where they had all their haircut for free a couple years ago they said they were offered free cuts for all until age 5. Now the poor woman has to actually pay for their hair to be cut in a disgusting smelling place.
For the record, I didn't think their hair was really that long. Guess TLC was paying for those haircuts, which was why they stopped in to fill some air time for the show.

kara said...

Who would wear hooker shoes to take their boys to tour a navy ship with many steep stairs?

Aron said...

I'm really shocked that the children still speak so immature for their age. They are over 5 now and still talk like 2 or 3 year olds. My child was born with some delays and had therapy up until a few months ago. He is almost 5 himself and speaks clearer than her children. Especially the poor boys. You can tell no one spends time with them to teach them correctly or help their speech. Poor kids.

KJIH-TV Media said...

*trumpet fanfare*:

I'm proud to say that the tide has turned on this exploitation joke of a show.

The IMDb is a pretty good barometer. I posted this regarding the Aug. 17th episode how it was totally over and NOBODY talked about what went during it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1124348/board/edit/145442456

Look at all the vast "OT:" (off-topic) posts. Many have replied by saying they didn't watch and were watching something else.

Why, it reconfirms my belief in a consciousness society that people can _see_ HARM and avoid it.

Those who didn't watch-- WTG!!!! :-D

Michelle said...

So let me get this straight:

Kate is encouraging the boys to point guns at people and wonders about firing it. It's a bad example for a disturbed person to make. It wasn't funny. She thought it was; it wasn't.

Sad. So Sad.

TLC: couldn't you edit that out? It wasn't funny. I don't care if it didn't work. It wasn't funny. and it was on the commercial. I didn't even have to watch the stupid show.

UGH!

heavenams said...

I didn't watch..the recaps on here are much better.

Lee H said...

I have read this blog since at least May of 2008 and posted here a few times. I didn't watch tonight's show and will no longer watch the show. Both Kate and Jon's behavior makes me sick--- girlfriends, fake tears, drama involving police, etc.

To repeat what many posters have said, it was a cute show when it began. Increasingly, I am only concerned with those 8 children.

I am in the process of sending emails to the show's sponsors. When I am finished, I will no longer be viewing this website or any other site discussing the Gosselins. You are wonderful people and I know that your hearts are in the right place. However, it is just too painful for me to see the distruction of this family. The children are innocent and the parents are soooo sick.

shrews are cute, not k8 said...

Mady and Cara are the top of their class? They rank kids in 2nd grade now? Gee, I wasn't ranked until I was applying for college in junior year! Anyway, I wonder who they take after? Certainly not either of their parents! Must be the dentist.

Anyway, I am not boycotting, I have to see it for myself. My impressions: Kate's portions are very, very fake. She is talking with a weird accent, acting very odd and pretentious. Jon comes off as much more natural and likable. His portion of the show was pleasant to watch, hers was excruciating. One of the boys has a really bad speech impediment, I don't know if it's Colin or Joel. Their hair looked fine, they just needed a little trim, but she made such a drama out of it. The girl tups weren't on at all--good for them to have a day off. Guess there's no pretending there's no nanny, now!

Sarah said...

Now I know why Kate guest appeared on Regis and Kelly. All during tonight's show they advertised Kelly's new reception show over and over and over again.

LMAO said...

kara said...
Who would wear hooker shoes to take their boys to tour a navy ship with many steep stairs?

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Oh my, that made me laugh out loud. I have no idea what is going through her crazy a$$ head. It's very apparent that there is a light on and nobody at home!

Michelle said...

Who would wear hooker shoes to take their boys to tour a navy ship with many steep stairs?

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Answer: Someone who thought her "favorite" bodyguard would be coming up the steep steps right behind her.

She is an idiot. It truly amazes me that any one human being can be that stupid.

PatK said...

I'm not sure which of the boys it was, but did anyone else notice that when he came over for Kate to look at his haircut, she smoothed down the "spikey" top with her hand as if she didn't like it?

blackisthenewblack said...

Kate is the one who looks like trailer park trash! Someone really needs to tell her to stop wearing denim shorts & mini skirts with those ridiculous looking wedgie "heels"!! Who the heck wears those kind of shoes to go tour a battleship anyhow?! Oh, right, the woman who likes to make a spectacle of herself...oops, I mean the one who supposedly doesn't like "p-people" yet does everything she can think of in front of them for attention! Plus, what a BORING episode~

Tami said...

That's funny. My 5-yr-old son has longish hair (I happen to like long hair on boys) and my mother always accuses me of being too lazy to give him a haircut!
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When my son was 10 he wore his hair a little longer. One day he knocked on the door of a new friend who happened to live in a trailer. The dad was this complete slob, coming to the door with beer in hand. He looks at my son and says, "First of all, you need a **cking haircut". Nice : )

kidcrazy said...

Who cares what she wears. Not sure how that effects the kids anyway.

notatallamused said...

IMO, it is highly INAPPROPRIATE and extremely IRRESPONSIBLE for a parent to encourage a child to point and shoot a gun at another human being!! Additionally, it is in extremely poor taste for a 'family' network to air such footage!

I'd Talk Forever said...

Mady and Cara are the top of their class? They rank kids in 2nd grade now? Gee, I wasn't ranked until I was applying for college in junior year!
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Absolutely not. They don't rank kids at the school.

Paisley said...

I'm sad the girls didn't get a chance to tour the battleship. I did that as a little girl with my Bluebird troop and absolutely loved it. I hate it when the kids get divided into girl vs. boy activities. Or how Cara and Mady have been pigeonholed into being outdoor vs. indoor girls. Interests change over time..

Kelly said...

Perhaps there should be a reality show about Haley getting a nose job by her daddy, she needs one. She's a loser just like her dork boyfriend.

GinaGrrrrl said...

blackisthenewblack, you're right about touring battleships in wedgies and skirts. How dumb can someone be? I toured the one in Charleston Harbor and I remember climbing stairs that were more like ladders. Maybe Kate wanted to give the TLC staff something to look at?

AnneMarie said...

Anyone else see the news coming out of, I think, England about the mom expecting TWELVE ?!?!? 6 of each.

Sextuplets are so passe!

(think it was on cnn.com or foxnews.com)

Stop the show said...

I too am appalled that TLC would lower themselves even further by airing footage of a child aiming a gun..Shame on Kate and TLC..nothing like promoting violence!

Mary said...

yea!!
I shut off the tv after 5 minutes because it was
b o r i n g
I chose to watch paint dry instead, more exciting!

NancyNally said...

Kate is encouraging the boys to point guns at people and wonders about firing it??????????

If there is anything more annoying, it is kids that point toy guns at people and their idiotic parents that let them do it. I would love to what I would with that fake gun............

UGH! said...

you're right about touring battleships in wedgies and skirts. How dumb can someone be?

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Well, if you're K8 Gosselin, dumber than a bag of rocks. I'm not surprised at all - remember, this is the attention-whore who wore HIGH HEELS to pick out the dogs. This is the attention-whore who wears heels and red leather jackets to Target. This is the attention-whore who wears mini-skirts to speak at churches. K8 is a Posh Spice wannabe who looks like a $10 tramp.

bbfan09 said...

In my experience, parents of children around the age of the twins "rank" how their children are doing by comparing how advanced they read, how well they do on timed tests like addition and subtraction and by how they fair on standardized tests. It seems like Kate would be making the assumption of how far ahead they are by measures like these because we know she does not communicate with the other pupils parents.

runs in the woods with wedgies said...

Kate is encouraging her children to aim guns? She is clueless.

Quit Watching! said...

People are starting to judge things that do not really matter. What matters are the kids and what they are going through. TLC is determined to show Kate in a good light so they can keep the money train going, they are going to phase Jon out completely from the show. If your blind to what Kate is really about, you will continue to watch and believe she is a victim. As far as people saying they are bored, I don't get it. Do you wish they were still being nasty to each other on national tv in front of their kids? If you're bored DON"T WATCH. People on here are just starting to nitpick about the stupidest stuff. I don't care who Jon dates, I don't care what shoes Kate wears on a battleship and how much her boobs hang out. They are what they are. The only ones I care about are the kids and guess what??? That's the only ones any of us should be concerned about. That is all that matters and TLC won't be there to pick up the pieces when these kids lives fall apart.

Yolanda said...

Does this woman not own a pair of jeans?

Connie said...

Kelly said...
Perhaps there should be a reality show about Haley getting a nose job by her daddy, she needs one. She's a loser just like her dork boyfriend.
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I have a nose like Hailey's only more prominent, and my husband seems to like it. And I think she is about the most down to earth of the whole bunch! But we all have our opinions.

organic lollipop said...

I didn't watch. Wahahaha! I went out.

It used to be a friendly show taking your mind off negative things. Now Gosselin family is more negative than anything in my life. Why do I want to watch that and remind myself all the annoying things in life?

Sara said...

@Quit Watching

Just a reminder that we are all entitled to our opinions. Thank you for sharing yours

Angela said...

Haven't watched since they came back on. Honestly what's the point of this show anymore? All of the kids are in school now, Jon and Kate are divorcing, they are no longer a "happy" family...so what is the purpose of this show? Kate gets crazier by the day, Jon has become a man-whore, and the kids have to suffer because of them. TLC should really be ashamed. This is not family TV, this is a soap opera. And will Kate please sit her @$$ down somewhere. I am so tired of her "whoa as me, fake tears, dap my eye with the tissue" interviews. She claims she hates her emotions being on display yet she's running to every TV show she can. Jon and Kate could have stopped this train wreck a long time ago , but refuse because of money. It's a shame.

cdnmom47 said...

Quit Watching said...

People are starting to judge things that do not really matter. What matters are the kids and what they are going through. TLC is determined to show Kate in a good light so they can keep the money train going, they are going to phase Jon out completely from the show. If your blind to what Kate is really about, you will continue to watch and believe she is a victim. As far as people saying they are bored, I don't get it. Do you wish they were still being nasty to each other on national tv in front of their kids? If you're bored DON"T WATCH. People on here are just starting to nitpick about the stupidest stuff. I don't care who Jon dates, I don't care what shoes Kate wears on a battleship and how much her boobs hang out. They are what they are. The only ones I care about are the kids and guess what??? That's the only ones any of us should be concerned about. That is all that matters and TLC won't be there to pick up the pieces when these kids lives fall apart.

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Right on!! I totally agree with you. So what if the show is boring? They are still exploiting these children by filming them constantly and making money due to their very existance!!

Whether you're watching them do something exciting or boring these children are still being victimized.

Please stand up for what's right and change the channel.

TLC(Total Load of Crap) said...

1: The most loving, hard working, honest, dependable people in my life have lived in trailers, including myself. I have never heard of buzz cuts as being trailer park only. In fact never seen them around in the parks, mainly the military bases around my city.
2: YAY! Did not watch Long & Fake + Boring today, first time and I am so happy about it! We all need to stop it is sick and depraved!
3: Why are we getting so heated on the blog, just ignore the TLC posters (you know who you are and we know you are *forever hopeful* we won't get it... heh
4: Come ahhhnnn this show it just a joke let's end it now
PS to Trailer Haircuts- no dis, just informing :)

fidosmommy said...

I didn't watch either. I spent the evening with a friend watching the raccoons play and eat. They get along better with each other than some people in Wernersville.

I've learned over the years that all you need to know about a show is in the promotional ads for it.
Just like movie promos, they take the best part to try to lure you in. But you soon find out that one line is the ONLY good line in the whole movie. Same thing here.
Once you've seen the promo, you've basically seen the show. The rest is filler, and not very interesting. I bet that holds true for tonight's episode of Jon and Kate Plus 8.

Am I right? Was there anything more interesting than pointing guns at paparazzi on Kate's first time out with her 3 sons?

I didn't think so. Watching the promo was all you needed to keep up with the Gosselins.

fidosmommy said...

And by the way, if my Mom had used up any of my vacation time doing things like taking me to get a regular haircut, I would have been ticked. That's what you do on a Saturday morning or Wednesday afternoon during a regular day.
Not vacation time! Good grief. Take them before you leave for the beach, Kate!

The boys are getting robbed again!
Not only are their at-home hours
scheduled and directed, their vacation hours are filled with
non-vacation activities. Brother!

Connie said...

Quit Watching! said...
People are starting to judge things that do not really matter. What matters are the kids and what they are going through. TLC is determined to show Kate in a good light so they can keep the money train going, they are going to phase Jon out completely from the show. If your blind to what Kate is really about, you will continue to watch and believe she is a victim. As far as people saying they are bored, I don't get it. Do you wish they were still being nasty to each other on national tv in front of their kids? If you're bored DON"T WATCH. People on here are just starting to nitpick about the stupidest stuff. I don't care who Jon dates, I don't care what shoes Kate wears on a battleship and how much her boobs hang out. They are what they are. The only ones I care about are the kids and guess what??? That's the only ones any of us should be concerned about. That is all that matters and TLC won't be there to pick up the pieces when these kids lives fall apart.
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I agree with much of what you say here, but I think people refer to being bored not because they want more excitement, but because they want the show to end. Not only is it awful for the children which is most important, but if that's not enough, it's also just plain boring and there's absolutely no good reason for it to remain on the air.

Anonymous said...

I read all the posts about tonight's show and nobody made the comment about one of the boys keep saying some reference to "are those the bad guys". I couln't believe it. The child was referring to the paps (tabloid camera people who chase after them). Don't tell me that the paps are not influencing the children. Kate tried to make it sound like something else buy I bet I am right. In fact Kate even at one point said "they are the bad guys" while to pointed to the paps.

sid said...

Hailey said Kate is playing sympathy card. If Kate is really doing that, it's not working.

No one will feel sorry for a mother who has a crew to manage her cash cows and spends most of her day on indulging herself with the 8 cash cows' hard earn money.

Nail salon, really? Obviously, Kate is not taking care of her kids. The new paint on the nails will chip in 5 minutes after doing things for the kids.

Sheri said...

I am just so disturbed by Kate having one of the boys pointing a gun..I then read her People interview on an online scan and was even more disturbed. Kate tells of doing target shooting at the Dude ranch and she was absolutely gleeful..she said Alexis said to her 'you know how when daddy's here and your not here and your here and daddy's not here, why can't you both be here together'..heartbreaking isnt it? She also said she had received a call from one of her daughters while she was at an airport and her daughter told her of the 'latest' media report about Jon and how she got tearful in the airport. How can she put her children through this?? It disgusts me that People gives this woman a platform to spew her lies. She paints Jon as someone who changed so much she does not even know him and refers to his 'crazy antics' Really Kate?? You have pulled many crazy's of your own! She speaks of Jon through clenched teeth and hopes that he is 'haunted' by his actions one day. I think it is pretty obvious to everyone but Kate that she wanted out of the marriage and for her to spin this is just mind boggling. She claims her 'friends come to me and scream about him, so I don't have to. Its just so distasteful' Oh come on Kate, I really do not believe you have any friends! I feel she is a very disturbed, angry woman with serious issues and she has revealed such personal, painful things about her kids dealing with this divorce. I truly wish CPS would investigate the Gosselins because what is going on here is abusive and I just feel so sad for these kids..Kate is not stable and is living in a self created fantasy land of denial and spin tactics.

Sheri said...

Just to clarify on my previous post~I have no problem with target shooting but the thought of Kate Gosselin target shooting doesn't sit well with me..in the People article she made a reference to joking about Jon being the target.

It's Alive! It's Frightening! said...

fidosmommy said:

I spent the evening with a friend watching the raccoons play and eat.
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Forgive me for subverting a really lovely image, but I all of a sudden had a perverse vision of Kate's hair coming to life and invading the quiet suburbs!

life is a ... said...

My parents divorced when I was about Cara and Mady's age. Not seeing parents together was not the worst. The worst was seeing parents argue. All the horrible words and anger scared me. I didn't want to see them together at all, because the fighting was worse than their separation.

It did influence me not in a good way. It also ruined the relationship between me and my parents.

I always try to tell parents "be civilized to each other for your kids". I don't know how many people can control their impulse and raw emotion for their kids. Sigh...It's always the same old story. Human beings...they just never learn from history or somebody's experience and true stories.

The parents are selfish and hopeless. I hope those 8 kids get along fine and have each other's back. That will help a lot. I pray for their strength to help each other and not let their idiotic parents bother them.

grannyoftwo said...

The Battleship NC is located in Wilmington, NC. It is not some town in the middle of nowhere. I am sure there many qualified barbers located there. Of course, there might have been a problem of finding one to do it for free, with Khate giving them orders to boot.

Yeah, weuns here in da South are able to git most of dim haircuts youuns all git too. Floyd usually gives me mine down at da baber shop, around da corna. Rite beside da diner.

Robin said...

First of all, the topic of this episode is exactly what I emailed Kon about back when things were just starting to go downhill. Or rather, when people were just starting to notice. My hope was that they would listen to constructive criticism about their show (seems laughable now, but hey, I was hopeful back then!) The point was that people don't care about the everyday stuff...we don't want to see them go to the dentist, to get haircuts, packing school lunches, etc. - we all do that kind of stuff every day of our lives. It drives me crazy how they talk in their interviews about things like the dentist checking their teeth for decay like they're the only ones who know what happens when a child goes to the dentist. But I see that despite everything else that has happened since then, they are STILL doing these extraordinary boring shows.

Second of all - I agree with the poster who says that buzz cuts aren't cute on boys. I wouldn't go so far as to call them trailer park haircuts, but I don't think they're cute at ALL. If you're going to pay someone to cut your son's hair, at the very least give them a cute cut.

grannyoftwo said...

The thing I wonder about the most..is if the break-up was going to happen regardless of the reality show, why have so many children in the first place. surely you knew something was wrong for a while if you knew that the break-up would have happened whether you had a reality show or not. Does this make sense to anybody, other than Kate? Unless this is how she invisioned the whole thing in the first place. I will get rich and then kick him out. Do you think she thought that far in advance? I wouldn't put it past her. She has an evil spirit about her that is for sure. You can see it in her eyes at times. There is no mistaking an eveil look in ones eyes.

Anonymous said...

TLC has loose cannon, Hailey Glassman to contend with. Hailey is saying the marriage was over a year ago but the network wouldn't let them reveal this. Wonder if TLC will make a rebuttal?

Midwest Mom said...

The voiceover for the promo of this episode said, "...as Kate has the boys to herself for the first time".

How sad. That a woman waits 5 years to be alone with her male children.

Pitiful really. Why would that be a bragging point ?

Just Julie said...

Didn't watch. Didn't miss it. I just popped on to this site, hoping for positive news that would be beneficial for the kids, such as child advocates, on-SET tutors or Coogan accounts.

No such luck.

Yeah, I said SET. I think their house is little more than a SET and mommy is acting whenever they are in view of cameras and/or public.

I also think such things as spending time with boys or grooming dogs are suggestions from a publicist. A professional is monitoring public opinion and past gaffes and having Kate ACT OUT scenes to make her seem more mother-like.

I find it all so sad.

K8TERH8TER said...

Ok, a few points from last night's show: Did anyone else hear the comment Kate made regarding the twins needing to go home from the beach vacation to finish out their last 3 days of school...because they didn't want to miss their class picnic!? (Glad to see it's less important for them to be at school during the learning portion!) She also made a point of saying (for our benefit I'm sure) that it was ok that the twins missed school because they were at the top of their class!! Um, I recall reading something in the Reading Eagle (newspsper) not too long ago that decsribed how badly things were going for those girls in school due to this show. The twins' grades were suffering, Cara in particular was beginning to become withdrawn, and Mady was "grouchier" than usual, and that both girls were now seeing a child Psych. to help them deal with all the crap in their lives. That doesn't sound like they are in the "top of their class" to me! Also, during the battleship tour, at one point Kate asked one of the boys to count something (I think they were walking into the kitchen part of the ship). I think it was Joel who counted and I swear he couldn't count! I may be mistaken, but it sounded like he said...1,2,1,?. It may just be that his voice faded off and he counted correctly, and it was just me who can't hear! A 5 yr. old who can't count up to 4 or 5 needs serious help....or atleast needs to be in school instead of vacationing non-stop. And what was it with the boys' obsession with the "bad guys"? What (evil thoughts) on earth is Kate filling those poor kids' heads with?????? Her explanation made no sense at all...as do most things that come out of her mouth. I about died laughing when Kate made the comment to the barber regarding Colin's hair...that she always knows when it's time for the boys' haircuts when Colin's hair begins to stick straight up, and it looks just terrible that way! LADY KATE, YOUR HAIR STICKS STRAIGHT UP TOO!!!! When are YOU going to get it cut because yours looks terrible that way also!!! Jeez, does she ever listen to herself talk???? Between all the made-up vocabulary she speaks and the nonsense that spews out of her pie-hole constantly, the woman drives me batty!!! And what's with her not getting an ice-cream for herself (probably cuz' she is watching that svelte scar-ridden figure of hers), yet she chows down on the 3 ice-creams of her boys instead!!!! The woman is a loon! As for Jon....I think TLC is definitely fading him out and the show will eventually be called "Kate plus 8". I think it will be a show about Kate's struggles with single parenting 8 kids.(which is a lie in itself since she has NEVER been alone with those kids since day 1....there is ALWAYS help around) I doubt the show will last if it is picked up for another season, regardless of the changes that are made. Battleship tours and haircuts make for boring tv viewing. I'm sure TLC has plans for Kate though...otherwise they would have jumped ship from this family already...using the divorce fiasco as their crutch. Yep, we'll just have to wait and see just how low TLC goes in the further destruction of this family. It's all so puzzling to me. You know right now TLC is laughing all the way to the bank at Kate's expense. She's just too stupid and self- centered to see that they are using her to put food on their tables. Hmmm...but then again, she is using her kids to put designer clothes on her back, so perhaps she knows exactly what's going on. That just makes this all the more sickening!!!!

Anna said...

I watched the show and have to say that Kate was very sweet and loving with the boys. It may be an act but all 4 looked like they were having fun.

I also thought Colin seems developmentally on track listening to him on the chair. The other two didn't talk as much so it was hard to tell.

It was sweet when one of the boys told Kate "I like you." It did not seem coached or rehersed.

Poor Mady looked so bored at the place Jon took the girls. That should have been a Cara only trip because it was not Mady's thing at all. I think Mady will end up having a much worse relationship with Jon in the long run then Cara - he doesn't like to do the things Mady likes.

One other things - that show will not be boring to people who like the "life of a family" type shows. It is every bit as interesting as watching the Roloffs or Duggars. I think people either like that stuff or don't.

cossysmom said...

just a point of clarification...I believe those were denim shorts, not a denim skirt. Nevertheless, she should have been wearing sensible shoes. Does she even own a pair of sneakers? does she even wear those heels on the treadmill?

I was glad to see Jon doing something active with the twins. While I think he's making an a$$ out of himself in his "personal life", he appears to really enjoy spending time with the kids.

something stumps me about Kate. I've seen her high school pictures and she supposedly was a cheerleader??? I've never seen her do anything even remotely athletic. What happened??? Let's see her actually DO something with these kids!

Sugarpop said...

If I'm remembering right, didn't she say something along the lines of "sometimes I could just shoot him" in the infamous shower head coupon episode? I'm seeing a (disturbing) theme here...

Marissa said...

So, the whole paparazzi issue has left me flabbergasted. Why does Kate insist on making such a drama out of them in front of the kids? We all know these kids have grown up with a camera (or 2 or 3) shoved in their faces 24/7. In most of the shots we've seen of the paparazzi on the show, the TLC camera had to zoom in so we could actually spot them because they were keeping their distance. Had Kate not made a scene, it is likely the kids would have never noticed them. What makes these 'bloodsucking' photographers any different from the ones with video cameras who have been recording the kids every move since they were babies, and more importantly what makes them any more parasitic than the very two people who gave the cameras permission to do so?

SKB516 said...

I'm also in awe of Kate's choice of clothes, particularly shoes, when touring the battleship. And of course the deal with the guns. There were, what, 3 P-people taking pics? Even though I live in Wilmington, I've never toured the battleship, but it seemed to me that Kate and the boys were the only ones allowed inside the ship- otherwise I'm sure we would have seen others in the background at some point. Seemed they had free reign until they got on deck, which is of course when Kate went into "hiding" (oh please!) & started complaining about the people looking at them. Um, Kate, they were probably looking at you because 1)you were being followed by a camera crew, and 2)the group may have had to wait for you to finish your tour before they could go in. Notice they weren't crowding around her, asking for autographs, etc. I don't know a lot about the salon they went to- never been myself & don't know of anyone who goes there. I wanted to see about how much a child's haircut would be (if she were actually paying), but couldn't find a web site either. As for Kilwin's (the ice cream shop they went to), it's a very popular place with great ice cream. Several of the actors who live here are frequent customers, so I'd be shocked if Kate got any special treatment. Gotta love how they showed one of the boys with ice cream dripping on his shoe and Kate not reacting. I guess that was in response to our complaints about her freaking out over the ice cream mess when they went to Disney.

John and Kate who cares said...

Momof2... well stated. First rule of gun safety NEVER point a gun loaded or not at anyone. Once again shame on Khate and TLC.

Tiva said...

I don't mind her getting their hair cut on vacation, because when else would you have it done? Their life is one long vacation, it isn't like a normal family where vacations are rare treats, these kids don't know anything else but corporate sponsored "fun."

SAHM said...

I did not watch either! In fact, we turned the tv off entirely and had Family Game Night! It was a blast and until the Gosselin circus comes to an end I will be making Monday's family game night from now on!

I am tired of seeing these two mooch off their kids backs and claim this is all they can do to financially support the kids.... i call BULL $hit on that one!!! There are plenty of people out there that have just as many kids and have "normal" jobs. I am not even opposed to the idea of Kate getting her own show.... more power to her(i know it will bomb though)! And even if Jon wants to start a clothing line w/ Ms. Hailey(not w/ the kids though)... well more power to him!! But at least the kids would be out of the limelight and maybe they would get their childhoods back!

WhoDidWhatFirst said...

stopthemadness said...
I do feel sorry for Mady and Cara, their little 4th grade friends are just at the age where relationships with boys become interesting, it's the age of Spice Girls and Britney Spears and what boys are cute and like you. This pair of sisters stands no chance if their dad continues to behave as he does and the pap continue to care and report on it. "Your dad left you so he can date girls" - nice.
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Stopthemadness, you have made a very interesting point about Jon being an embarassment to Mady and Cara. As the grandmother to eight girls, however, I have to point out that girls their age are so over Britney Spears and Spice Girls. I think Hannah Montana may even be on her way out. Mentioning this girl stuff makes me feel so sorry for those twins. Do they even have special friends to talk these things over with? Doubt it!

mom-of-one said...

I'm so tired of the tabs recaps of this ridiculous show. They are so shocked and amazed that Kate was in such a good mood on last night's episode with everything going on. They work in the entertainment reporting industry. Surely they DO understand that the episode was taped months ago, right? Granted, we do know that some of the proverbial chit had hit fan when she took the kids to NC, but it certainly was not the debacle that is going on now. The tabs reporting/recaps make it seem like Kate and kids were just at the beach last week?!? C'mon now, let's have a tad of journalistic integrity, even if we're just a lowly tab.

EP said...

Okay, am I the only one who noticed Kate rip those sailor hats out of the woman's hands without any appreciation whatsoever?? I actually rewinded it (DVRd) a few times and said "Did she really just snatch that out of her hands?"

Same old, same old. And who watched Alexis, Hannah, and Leah through all this? The not-a-nanny?

Not a fan of either said...

That part about aiming the gun is now on my Comcast home page! I can't tell if they are trying to make her look bad or what though. Seems like they are leaving it up to each person to decide.

On another note. Obviously I'm 'not a fan of either' and that extends to Jon's girlfriends; however, Hailey Glassman did exhibit class during her interview. The kind of class that Kate wishes she had. Some of Hailey's comments were a little immature, but her dress, demeanor, and command of the English language make Kate look sad by comparison. Still.....

BTW. While I did watch the interview, I did not watch the show. Gosselin free since last May!

Somewhereinoh said...

Anonymous said...
I read all the posts about tonight's show and nobody made the comment about one of the boys keep saying some reference to "are those the bad guys". I couln't believe it. The child was referring to the paps (tabloid camera people who chase after them). Don't tell me that the paps are not influencing the children. Kate tried to make it sound like something else buy I bet I am right. In fact Kate even at one point said "they are the bad guys" while to pointed to the paps.

8/17/2009 10:56 PM

During the Harlem Globe Trotter episode one of the boy tups asked a player if he 'was a bad guy'. Kate explained the tups question by saying that he was a 'typical boy' and talking in terms of 'super hero' vs. 'bad guys'. I didnt watch last night's episode so didnt see the 'bad guy' reference. I thought it odd that the tup would ask a basketball player, after watching a basketball game, if he was 'the bay guy'. Even more disturbing that the tups continue to use the same terminology of 'bad guy' but yet their use of said words appears to have zero relevance to Kate's claim of 'typical boys' and 'super heros'.

Anonymous said...

I just want to make a few comments. Kate's interview on the Today Show was so rehearsed. Her quiet voice, the kind demeanor what a sham. How could it be that in July or August, 2008 they renewed their marriage vows, are totally in love, and then within 6 months Kate wants out of the marriage and said that they have different goals. What is that to mean? What about marriage counseling? They have 8 children to care for. Why didn't either of them try marriage counseling to save their marriage? This baloney about having different goals is a sham. Their goals are to save their marriage for the sake of their children. Something isn't right with this whole picture and I think it starts with Kate. She has somebody waiting in the wings, I just know it.

Signed: Momof2boys

illheaded said...

I honestly can't get over the irony of Kate bitching about the p-people who film her from 500 feet away. But a video camera, boom mic, and various production assistants within a five foot range of her is perfectly fine and normal? Her kids must be so damned confused. I would be.

stopthemadness said...

I agree that the thing that really is upsetting for kids is to see the fights. I don't think people who stay married "for the children" actually understand that or else they don't care; for many, it's about the money and the social stigma. But Jon as lazy and useless and trifling as he is, and I can't stand his behavior, is right about one thing, that what is best for his kids is NOT to see the fighting and even more so, the best thing he can do for his kids is to be happy himself - they need a happy stable parent. I don't think it hurts them to have a babysitter once in a while. In fact whether Jon knows it or not and whether he's doing it for them or not, it probably is good for them to have OTHER adults who care for them and doubtless can model better behavior than either of their parents.

He can have them playing frisbee and just chilling instead of ridiculous vacation, and just have his family over for a normal kind of relaxed grill and hanging out, etc and can even have a babysitter who worked in or works in a bar, and as long as no one goes out of bonds, it's fine.

Kate might take a page out of that book and lighten up and quit pretending that she is upset. She forced the multiples on him when he wanted no more kids, she forced the show on them all, and the church meetings and the book that she doens't give her friend any credit for writing, who actually wrote it - she created the divorce as soon as she had what she wanted, her crocodile tears aren't real believable. She's painted herself into a corner.

If she would just admit she wasn't a particularly good wife and wasn't in the marriage - and would relax and quit making a fool of herself, she and the kids might be happier. She won't be mega rich. Too bad. SHe doesn't deserve to be mega rich. She should start doing stuff for the kids not for the money.

If she thinks there is going to be a talk show or any other big major Kate production, I think she's wrong. She is on her way out, she is drained -I think she's just furious that Jon pulled out because she thought she had it all figured out, with him the servant girl and her the rich celebrity-Instead, he is making his own life and that really irritates her.

ashley said...

Has anyone else noticed that Joel seems completely fixated on "good guys" and "bad guys"? In the Harlem Globetrotters episode, he asked one of the players upon meeting him if he was a "bad guy", completely without reason. In last night's episode, he said something to Kate like, "When I grow up I'm gonna be a bad guy, and I'm not gonna shoot you"...are you sure about that, Joel? You are still pretty young and unaware of the way your life is unfolding, buddy. You might have a change of heart when you grow up and realize your Mommy never had your best interests at heart.

I'm sure a lot of little boys are into good guys and bad guys, but it seems to be a running theme with Joel. It's like he's too sheltered to know what constitutes a good person or a bad person. They are all too sheltered. They live in a bubble of undeserved privilege and don't have a clue about the real world. And unfortunately, Kate is teaching them that anyone with a camera deserves to be shot. That's pretty messed up. You wouldn't have p-people up your butts if you hadn't sold your family's souls for money.

Poor Joel. I hope he grows up to be a good guy in spite of it all...

LovingMom said...

I'm sad the girls didn't get a chance to tour the battleship. I did that as a little girl with my Bluebird troop and absolutely loved it. I hate it when the kids get divided into girl vs. boy activities. Or how Cara and Mady have been pigeonholed into being outdoor vs. indoor girls. Interests change over time..

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You are so right, Paisley! Children should be given the freedom to EXPLORE the world and discover their interests without being saddled by labels or gender-based biases from their parents.

I caught a few minutes of this show and these are my impressions:
* Collin wanting to be a "bad guy" when he grows up and Kate jumping down his throat about that.
* Kate's CONSTANT references to the "paparazzi." Why not just call them photographers instead of the celebrity reference that she told us in May that she abhors?
* Kate's comments about how they had became the focus of the ship's other tourists -- I guess the ship should have cleared the place for the Gosselin kids to roam free of unwanted attention, as so many places have. After all, they DID get a tour guide for part of the visit. Or, maybe Kate could stop the show and they'd all be quickly forgotten.
* Maddy looked so BORED while Cara was enjoying herself with Jon. Exactly how I felt watching this show. These people and this network are shameless.

kate is fake said...

As far as I'm concerned, this has been the best episode yet, since only 5 kids were exploited instead of 8. (Did they even mention the girl tups?) We can only hope that each episode shows fewer and fewer kids until the finale, with Kate sitting all alone on her plastic lawn chair.

leeroy said...

PatK said...
I'm not sure which of the boys it was, but did anyone else notice that when he came over for Kate to look at his haircut, she smoothed down the "spikey" top with her hand as if she didn't like it?
-----------------------------------i thought that's why she was doing at first but if you notice after she did that it was still spikey- that's the way they cut his hair (it cant get messed up)

sean said...

It seems like a lot of you are still watching the show and complaining. You realize by doing that you are adding to their ratings. Nielson families don't exist anymore, they get the ratings via satellite. Not only shouldn't you be watching, but the show without J&K going back and forth is like watching paint dry. Stop watching and TLC will yank it.If you continue to watch then you are part of the problem. I haven't seen it since the 5th birthday party episode and don't miss it.

Ali said...

Sorry. On vacation with others who insisted we watch.

Fave part of the show. Kate's claim that Mady and Cara are at the top of their class so it's not a problem for them to miss school.

Hilarious. Truthful? I find it hard to believe. Mom and dad do not possess an abundance of brain cells they could pass onto their spawn. So it can't be nature. Nurture maybe? Don't see that either. Scamming - not education - is job #1 in the Gosselin household.

More lies. Thanks for the laugh Kate.

Alexis said...

leeroy said...
PatK said...
I'm not sure which of the boys it was, but did anyone else notice that when he came over for Kate to look at his haircut, she smoothed down the "spikey" top with her hand as if she didn't like it?
-----------------------------------i thought that's why she was doing at first but if you notice after she did that it was still spikey- that's the way they cut his hair (it cant get messed up)

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actually, the barber left joel with a fauxhawk. clearly that was just too much for kate, seeing as that she had to mess it up that fast, i thought it looked cute. she should have left it alone.

just wondering said...

Why would TLC stop this show if so many of you are still watching?

Please don't watch, and if you must watch, at least wait 7 days for the rerun.

Cheetah said...

When one of the boys said, "Mommy, there's a bug in your purse", Kate said, "Collin, take care of it", just like she would bark an order at one of her many employees and assistants. I guess the children are getting old enough for Kate to use them for her benefit (as more than just moneymakers).

konGOaway said...

I have a different take on why Joel asked the globetrotter if he was a "bad guy". When I heard his comment and Kate tried to cover for him, I thought he might have said that because of the players color - something his parents might have made reference to at some time. Her reason about being a super hero made no sense to his specific comment.

Laurie said...

When Khate says "p people" I automatically think "paid people". After all, the paps are only going to stick around if there are some interesting shots to take. This whole thing was a snooze fest. Please note how the "paps" stand around with their cameras raised waiting to be photographed by Khates TLC team. All of it is a set up - not real paps but those tipped off/paid off by TLC and/or KON.

Connie said...

Anna said...
"It was sweet when one of the boys told Kate "I like you." It did not seem coached or rehersed."
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It was when they were eating ice cream but the reason he said "I like you" was because Kate had just told him he was getting to close to her and to move away. He had been trying to nuzzle up to her for some lovin'. When she said this he explained, but I like you. My heart went out to this child. I just wanted to slap her!Rejection hurts!

LuluHawg said...

I don't think there is anything wrong with the boys' buzz haircuts, especially in warm weather. My 2-year old gets a terrible heat rash if we don't get his hair cropped short. I don't follow the "lazy people" logic, since you have to go to the barber shop much more frequently than if you just let their hair grow. I have also taken my son to get his hair trimmed while on vacation, not a traumatic event at all.

There is so much turmoil and exploitation going on with this family, why focus on their hair and clothing?

Bob said...

Give me a break re: Jon - what a great thing that Kate treated him so badly or else he wouldn't have had a reasonable explanation for most recently behaving like a prepubescent twerp? Puhleeze - he should have grown a 'pair,' as we all can see now that he's quite capable of doing, and spoken up for himself back when he had a chance.

Maggie said...

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We will not put through any more comments that lecture other posters here. Thank you.

wramblinwreck said...

"I'm sure a lot of little boys are into good guys and bad guys, but it seems to be a running theme with Joel. It's like he's too sheltered to know what constitutes a good person or a bad person."


Five year-old boys mirror what they see and hear at home, so there's no telling what poor little Joel has overheard from his parents that helped to shape his perceptions about good guys and bad guys. Of course, other types of imagery (TV, movies, books) may have affected his perception as well. But given his parents' volatile relationship, over many months as they pretended to have a relationship when they knew it was over, I think those kids have been exposed to some pretty raw feelings. How they process it is individual to each of them. Mady may act out, Cara may withdraw, and the tups react according to their individual personality. Joel has always seemed like such a sweet, affectionate little soul who adores his daddy. I hope whatever is going on in that house won't destroy those precious qualities.

stopthemadness said...

I don't understand Kate. I don't get telling a kid, who is obviously shaken and stressed by Daddy moving out and the divorce and the constant harrassment by the press, to move away from her. Can she not spare the time and temperment to give the poor guy a cuddle? I know when I am stressed some times I just want to be alone, and feel very prickly when one of the kids tries to cozy up to me, but I also know that they have fewer resources to deal with stress and NEED that comfort, although they are not babies to nurse when they need to feel close, they still do derive comfort from touching their mom. My 18 YO daughter still wants to sit next to me and hold my hand if she is sad and (this is weird) but sometimes my 9 year old son will come up and lean against me a second, and then run off, somehow satisfied with a few seconds of closeness, sometimes he will seize my hand and smell it (he's addicted to the smell of Jergens I think!)
I think somehow even at older ages they need to plug in to some mom. Even if mom isn't centered and strong her kids see her as their rock.

I don't understand, whether you are under stress or not, pushing your children away and having them pitifully try to explain their actions - as if they NEED to explain themselves or justify why they want or need to be close!

I also don't understand pulling Mady and Cara out of school. Kate would have no way of knowing if they are "at the top of the class" which sounds like BS, I am guessing with the turmoil and trauma they are undergoing they have a hard time sleeping and concentrating and may not be right at the TOP or reaching their full potential, and never mind that, they NEED consistency and they need their schedule to remain the same, not to get yanked out of school so mom can film the whole family and doesn't have to face the reality of a kitchen remodel. REALITY is that kids that age are IN SCHOOL, they won't be on camera during the days, M-F. Sept to June.

if for no other reason the disruption now is so bad for them, they need normalcy and consistency, they are obviously stressed. How can TLC claim they are handling this with sensitivity? Sensitivity is to give them their privacy and allow the family to reach their new normal. When will Kate realize these kids aren't babies and actually have NEEDS that may not be the same as her WANTS?

2badsosad said...

Ali said...
Sorry. On vacation with others who insisted we watch.

Fave part of the show. Kate's claim that Mady and Cara are at the top of their class so it's not a problem for them to miss school.


IMO, this statement is just one example of just how truly f'd up Kate's priorities are when comes to parenting her children. While I applaud the twins being in the tops of their class, that is no reason to justify missing repeated days of class in order to comply with the demands of a TLC filming schedule. Most parents prioritize the importance of their child's education as well as the social and extra cirricular development that comes with. But for Ms. Katie Irene, the 'culturing' of her children via their exploitation on a 'reality tv' show justifies a far more self serving purpose.

Orangeface said...

Good thing Kate pulled a media stunt involving the cops a few days ago, or NOBODY would have watched this ridiculously boring and useless episode.

This was essentially the episode: Kate takes the boys out on a trip. See? She likes them after all. She lets them chew gum and eat ice cream and make a mess. Boy, she is such a laid back parent! Jon takes the twins somewhere. See? He's an awesome dad, and spends time with them. He barely speaks above a mumble the entire time. The boys get a haircut. Maybe next time we'll see the girls get a haircut. Boy, that would be so thrilling.

LP said...

I agree with stopthemadness and I think the reason that he said "I like you" rather than "I LOVE you" is because they are constantly being pushed away. Just MHO.

leeroy said...

I think people are making too big of a deal over Kate telling her child to back away from her- it was hot and he was covered in ice cream- I'm sure everyone has had a moment where they don't want their child crawling and standing on them...

( stopthemadness said...
I don't understand Kate. I don't get telling a kid, who is obviously shaken and stressed by Daddy moving out and the divorce and the constant harrassment by the press, to move away from her. Can she not spare the time and temperment to give the poor guy a cuddle?) Seriously??? That little boy was not trying to cuddle at that moment....

Jennifer D said...

Excess corrupts said...
There is nothing endearing about spoiled children. I do not think that one person on this site that has overindulged their children or know of children that have been given the excess that the 8 have been given. Its sinful.
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I am wondering what you are referring to? The kids don't seem to get much at all. They get dragged along on vacations but (aside from the beach) they don't seem to want to be there.

They got crooked houses. What else? When the bedrooms are shown they appear very cold and not decorated. The kids appear to have an appropriate amount of toys. With eight children I would easily expect a LOT more toys.

Jon and Kate have excess. The kids get very little....IMHO

Yet Another Julie said...

Excuse me a moment while I climb on my soapbox.....I don't care if J&K get a divorce or not. Stuff happens in the real world. However, one of my HUGE pet peeves is when someone refers to him/herself as a "Single Parent. Someone who doesn't deserve it I mean. Kate will be a "divorced parent" and there is a huge difference. The title "Single Parent" belongs to those parents who bear the lion's share, if not all, of the work in raising children. Earning a living, child-rearing, cooking, cleaning, soccer practice, homework, PTA meetings, etc. Jon and Kate do not have to do anything alone, even without the babysitters and nannies. They have each other to help. If they really cared about their children they would find a way to get along. Divorced parents all over the world do it every day. Kate calling herself a single parent is an insult to the millions of real single parents doing the real work.

My husband and I have had a trying 20 years of marriage and have been close to divorce a couple of times. Even during the worst times (when I wanted to put my hands around his neck and squeeze until his eyes popped out) I knew he was a great parent. While he may not have always been a great spouse (the same can be said of me as it takes two), we have both always put our children's needs first. That's not to say we haven't made mistakes because we have. I wish I could turn the clock back and do some things differently. However, we have worked together to raise two wonderful boys through the good and the bad. Our boys have never known a day without hearing "I love you" from both their parents. They have become loving, giving human beings and I know it took both my husband and I, working together, to do it.

When you become a parent, you stop being the center of attention. Being a parent is a gift, a privledge and an enormous responsibility. It should be treated with the respect and dignity it deserves. It infuriates me to no end when Kate says she does everything for her kids then complains about how hard it is. Sometimes life is hard for everyone no matter your bank balance. She needs to get over herself.

Thanks for letting me vent. I'm sweating now so I'll climb back down and let someone else have a turn.

Judy said...

ie: When Kate said that Cara and Mady were tops in their class at school, I doubt she meant it literally. . . .my guess is that TLC said to her, "You need to show your viewers why it's okay for them to miss school," because they are trying to portray Kate as the "perfect mother," and this is a topic that's been discussed about the family. If Kate can offer some kind of explanation, maybe this will be one less thing for people to dissect. So maybe a producer, off camera, says, "Kate, can you explain why it's not a problem for your girls to miss so much school?" and instead of coming up with an answer like, "They are very intelligent and have no problem catching up when they get home," or "We bring work with us," or "Their teachers are in constant contact with us," Kate came up with that answer. Then her fans go "Oh of course! They are bright girls, aren't they? And isn't Kate so smart to be up on their education?"

lonni1 said...

fyi...new blog posting on tlc

Sidney said...

Michelle said...
So let me get this straight:

Kate is encouraging the boys to point guns at people and wonders about firing it. It's a bad example for a disturbed person to make. It wasn't funny. She thought it was; it wasn't.

Sad. So Sad.

TLC: couldn't you edit that out? It wasn't funny. I don't care if it didn't work. It wasn't funny. and it was on the commercial. I didn't even have to watch the stupid show.

UGH!

8/17/2009 7:10 PM
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Remember when Jane Fonda was also so full of herself when she made a similar stupid move? Not funny. Not a bit funny.

youcan'talsogetwhatyouwant said...

"Poor Mady looked so bored at the place Jon took the girls. That should have been a Cara only trip because it was not Mady's thing at all."


I totally disagree...Mady should "suck it up" and realize that the world doesn't revolve around her.(she is so much like kate)

Families do things together. Some members may not "love" the activity, but they do it because it is a family thing. I don't "love" baseball, but I go with my family and have a good time.

Mady needs to learn life isn't all about her...a lesson Kate must have missed.

Fed up with Khate's Threats.... said...

Did NOT watch the show....but Fox News provided this recap:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,540282,00.html??test=faces

Once again Klueless Kate Komplains about people taking pictures!!

Let's see...you parade your kids around in public with grown men employed by TLC running in FRONT, BESIDE, AND BEHIND you with LARGE TV Cameras, Boom Mikes, Lighting Gear.....etc..... and you think your kids notice a few people with teeny, tiny little cameras and cellphones with built-in cams?
What do you expect when you are putting on a FREAK SHOW!
Isn't that what TLC is all about -- they are the modern televised Barnum and Baily Freak Show Circus - c'mon!

Lady - you are one Krazy Bitch!!

Your kids are making all kinds of Kon Artist Kash for you and your tool of a husband - and yet you continue to complain about cameras.

Now, you tell your little, workaholic kids to "aim (guns) at the paparazzi"
What kind of mad woman are you and how SICK and TWISTED is TLC to air that crap?

Looks like common, decent folk minding their own business needs their own security guards around freakshow Khate Lost-it-lin.

This is NOT going to end good.

Tracy said...

I thought it was a bit rude that after the guy cut and styled Collin's (I think he was first) hair, Kate goes and messes it up. If she didn't like it at least wait until you're outside the door to not hurt anyone's feelings. But that's not really the kind of person Kate is. And honestly why are we still on this vacation. Is their lives filled with that much detail?

The Lying Chanel said...

There's is a double standard here. People seem to criticize Jon more than Kate. They ask Jon to do more and behave more properly than they expect Kate. It's like these strangers are treating Jon just like how Kate treats Jon. Everything is Jon's fault. Jon is a doormat.

Jon's wife broke up with him. She told him to get the F out. Who Jon dates after that is Jon's business. He doesn't owe anybody explanation.

He didn't full around before Kate broke up with him. He stayed home and took care of the kids as Kate asked. Kate asked him to quit his job, it wasn't his idea. Jon's job was nothing in Kate's eyes. She wanted him to quit the job so he could either babysit the kids or do the speaking arrangement.

Kate set him free, because she didn't want/need him no more. Why is it still Jon's fault? Why can't he grab a drink with his friends? Why can't he do this or that? Are we his mothers? Our husbands don't go out and grab a beer with friends?

Remember, Kate made him quit his job. There's massive layoff around the country. But everybody wants Jon to get a job now? How many unemployed people are able to get a job ASAP now? How many working people can do job hopping?

"Jon, you should do this.", "Jon, why did you do that?", "Jon, what planet are you on?", all the criticism. Nobody praised him when he did the right thing. No wonder he is drawing to crazy girls. They don't tell him what to do and criticize him every time he take a breath.

Natalie said...

Pulling kids out of school to go to work is what she's doing. Isn't that what child labourers are forced to do? Just sayin'.

If it was a week for an annual family vacation I wouldn't even have a problem with it... But she pulls them out for who knows how long to go to work, to film, to act on a tv show... NOT for family fun time. This is shameful.

And I'm sure in her mind she likens her children to the famous Hollywood entertainment kids that never attend school regularly due to busy schedules. Difference is those kids have schedules/home schooling/laws in place that protect their education. Unlike these poor children that are at the mercy of thier mother/boss. Sad!

Connie said...

leeroy said...
I think people are making too big of a deal over Kate telling her child to back away from her- it was hot and he was covered in ice cream- I'm sure everyone has had a moment where they don't want their child crawling and standing on them...
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hmmm, you could be right, but I was looking at this from the child's viewpoint rather than Kate's. He wanted to be close and she didn't. If I remember correctly, her response did not include: well, I like (love) you too. But I could be wrong.

shilohpeace said...

Hi. I haven't posted a while but I used to post every week. I am a huge Jon supporter and I totally support him even now. Perhaps as we age we get wiser and every one knows that he is just acting out with these young women and nothing good will really ever come of it. But the man was horribly horribly abused and pushed around by a monster for years and anything he needs to help him recover is fine with me. He loves his kids and he will do anything for his kids. He is a good father -- at least that is my opinion. Kate drove him crazy as she drives everyone crazy. I feel so sorry for those kids now as Kate will inflict her control on them now that she doesn't have Jon anymore. Kate is fine because she still has 8 little ones to boss around at her will. Once the kids grow up and she has no one to boss around anymore, the woman will self implode (just like Mary Tyler Moore's character in the movie, Ordinary People). I love Jon and he will calm down in time. Right now he is so confused he can't even speak so he is doing whatver he can to find some enjoyment in his life, even though his choices may not be the greatest to all of us know it alls (kidding!).

FoodNetworkFan said...

My my my. Mrs. Katie. At it again. Lookie here, when I was a teenager and on the prowl, I wore high heels because I wanted men to be attracted to my legs. Not any more! Why would a mother of 8 children wear heels? And show off so much skin? This show was about excess. Beach trips, money, whatever. Heck, I don't even have cable at my house! I save my money so my kids get a good education. That's what Nana wanted. I listen to my elders. Katie doesn't because she HAS no elders. She's the type of lady who'd ignore the old. Then again, she ignores the young, old, and in between. Thank goodness those kids have Hailey and her wonderful parents now as role models.

pinkdiamond611 said...

Bringing up Cara and Mady missing school highlights the fact that there must be laws in place to protect the children who are forced by their parents to work on reality shows. If Cara and Mady were a child actor on a set in Hollywood or NY, there are set rules of how many hours they can work and how much schooling they are mandated to have. Most shows have tutors for their child actors. Mady and Cara have nothing and nobody to advocate for them.

SKB516 said...

I don't think anyone has mentioned the scene Kate made with the little baby when boarding the ferry. I remember when those pics were posted way back in May, the caption one of the mags provided was something along the lines of Kate was holding a friend's infant, and we were all wondering "WHAT friend? She has friends?" Sure enough, it was just the kid of a stranger that was vacationing on BHI too. For those who didn't see, Khate made a big to-do over rushing to hold the baby. Reminded me of politicians holding babies- she probably thinks it will bring the kid good luck if she holds it.

lagne said...

The Lying Chanel, I appreciate your comments. I personally give Jon a bit more slack than Kate, because he is overall a better parent and has been abused by Kate.

But let's not forget that JON IS A GROWN MAN. Nobody MADE him do anything. He chose his actions and followed them through. I give him a bit more slack, but I don't excuse any of the stupid, insensitive things he's doing. WHe and Kate are history, apparently, so who cares how it affects Kate? but it affects his children, and he owes their pain and upheaval a lot more respect than his current conduct.

HoosierPower said...

leeroy said:I think people are making too big of a deal over Kate telling her child to back away from her- it was hot and he was covered in ice cream- I'm sure everyone has had a moment where they don't want their child crawling and standing on them...
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I've never seen Kate shoo Hannah or Maddy or any of the other girls from climbing on her -- regardless of their "messy" factor or lack thereof. This was just another instance of viewers being shown how Kate treats her sons differently than her daughters.

Is it manipulative editing, or does Kate treat certain kids differently? Is it really viewers making a "big deal" out of things or are viewers just stating the obvious? I think it's the latter, although, ymmv.

MomofFour said...

You know...the day when no one comes to this blog to say anything...is the day we all win. Because when that happens the Gosselins will be no more. I have no interest at all in watching that show. I have no interest in anything on TLC as a matter of fact. They have some new stupid show about "British makes over the USA" or something with a bunch of women kissing women and weirdness going on....they are just weird now. I hope the Duggars and the Roloffs find a new home or realize it's not necessary to deal with them. They're better than TLC. But I think it's a win-win when we don't care what the show was about.

Sharla said...

There was a question about why we don't want exhortations such as "Don't Watch." The first reason is that people do get to make up their own minds. I believe all the mods stopped watching quite some time ago unless one is doing a recap. However, we don't believe in people trying to tell others what to do or not do. It is also boring. It's boring for us to see comment after comment of don't watch and it's variations and it's boring for the readers. Lastly, we received complaints about having to wade through the pleas not to watch and how tedious that was. The point has been made and we felt it was time to move on. Thanks and hope you understand.

Beach Lover said...

I actually do remember Mady being told to get away from Khate one time when she just obviously wanted to hug her mother. And although I did not watch the renewal marriage show (gag me), I remember posters saying that in that episode Khate also told some of the kids to "get away from me". She really is a low-class, unintelligent, mean-spirited bitch.

excess corrupts said...

Someone mentioned that they don't think the "kids get much at all" The children have done more in their young lives then thousands of adults have ever done. Hawaii, Florida, multiple plane rides,
NC Bald Head, California, the Florida Keys, every amusement park in Pa., Hershey Hotel, Boat and scuba tours, Utah skiing, Oprah, Ellen Degeneras, Multiple morning shows, train rides, closing restaurants for the kids, Disney, Universal Studios, Sesame place, Sesame stage show, Harlem Globe Trotters (court seats, and meet and greet) water parks, Bakeries (that close for them to make cakes) Calif, Redwood tree forest, free toys, free clothing, free ski jackets and equipement, first class accomodations, people constantly fawning over them, free camping equip, crooked houses, free bikes, motor cars, and God knows how many freebees they REALLY get, dogs, dude ranch, on and on and on.
I really don't understand that statement, as it seems VERY clear to me that these kids are so overindulged that they cannot possibly grow up WITHOUT a sense of entitlement. I'll repeat it again "there is nothing endearing
about spoiled children, and they are truly spoiled."

Krista said...

@MoMof5

Respectfully, we are all entitled to our opinions. If Kate chooses to live her life in the public eye, obviously there will be scrutiny about her on all levels. I find it amusing that references to Kate's looks, clothing etc are seen as 'jealous' when that could not be further from the truth. Believe me, there is nothing about Kate Gosselin to be jealous about and if SHE is bothered by the scrutiny then maybe she should get a clue and go away

jasmine said...

I don't know how parents allow their young children to watch this show. How do they even explain to their own kids who the paparazzi are and how pointing guns at them is appropriate behavior?

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