Aug 15, Tabloids, Antics, Appearances, and other Diversions

Given the attention seeking behavior of late, who knows what they'll do next. They're still surprising me.

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Michelle-Leigh said...

Jon's claiming that Kate tried to "cry it up" for the cops and it didn't work. She is REALLY off the deep end now (as though she weren't already, she's just proving it moreso).

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32421178/ns/entertainment-celebrities/

Lordy Bee said...

Unbelievable. No..wait..totally believable. I have absolutely no doubt that we will soon find Katie Irene wandering down a byway in PA screeching incoherantly with bare feet and a white chair stuck to her ass. Sucks to have put yourself out there like that- hope it all ends up being worth it in the end.

Ladylou said...

In the video I saw where she has stepped out of the SUV, opens the door behind the driver and takes out a bag. Proceeds to the back of the vehicle, opens the tailgate and puts bag in the (Kate language..way back)
then shuts the tailgate. She stands in plain site of the P-person fiddling in her purse. Then walks to the front of the SUV, gets in and drives away.
What in the heavens was she doing except playing to the camera?

After a cat & mouse chase game the night before why would she go to the trouble of that little charade?
Wasn't the bag fine in the rear seat? What did she gain from putting it in the "way back?"

It was done for all of us and no other reason. Ratings a little lower this week and now her & Jon will be on every tabloid everywhere. Good move!

MyLittleCat said...

Kate tries to cry it up for everyone. If only Jon would have been the better parent when all this started! He already had the public on his side.

All he had to do was stay away from all the females and he'd be sitting pretty--so to speak!

Tuesday said...

Michelle-Leigh.. she's been off the deep end for quite some time, ita. She's like a psychotic energizer bunny. She keeps going, and going, but in a crazy unbalanced sort of way. She may think she's invincible but she will crash. Good thing she has her buddies at TLC looking out for her best interests! Newtons law of gravity comes to mind here.

Monica A said...

LOL she tried to cry it up and it didn't work.....drama!!! I feel bad for the kids though. I'm just glad someone finally put Hate in her place

Call it quits already! said...

My mom and dad had a tumultuous relationship and I remember what it was like to hear them arguing and fighting. They had the cops called on them and I remember the fear I felt not knowing what was going to happen.

I sincerely hope those kids did not witness any of that crap that went on between them. But unfortunately, they probably heard every word and felt every fear coming true.

I saw on JustJared that the film crew was there today and Jon and Kate were reunited. When is enough, enough? How can those poor children perform today after the chaos last night? Talk about torture.

BritBrit+KhateHate said...

Remember when Britny was going amok?? How she ALWAYS had a Starbucks in hand?? Well....who does that sound like these days??
I think a Brit-Brit shavedown is comin' soon.....?

Mikemom said...

Why does this surprise any of us, Kate has to have control over everything. Now that she is on her way to divorce, she will realize she cant and she is losing it. I hope next time its Jon's time he invites all the long gone relatives for a barbeque in the front yard, then Kate can rant and rave her disproval over the fence. If the police are called they will realize what a nut case she is: 911, whats your emergency?
This is Kate Gosselin, my ex husband has relatives over at my house.

redrivergrl said...

Jon's partying it up, Kate's losing it and being a reality celeb snob but I guess it's all been worth it, right guys? I mean you have the money and fame now and people to wait on you hand and foot so what else could you want??? MAYBE FOR YOUR KIDS TO BE HAPPY??? Did that thought ever cross your mind. GET OFF THE TV!!! Have some dignity and keep your kids off tv.

Pamela Jaye said...

Hmm... the descriptions of the mommy meltdowns and freakouts suddenly make me think of fictional parents (Maggie on ER) and the effects on their fictional children (shell shocked Abby - I don't know any real parents and children in this situation, or at least I'm not aware that I do. My father was a rageaholic, but from this, Kate's starting to sound a bit bipolar, and my mummy did everything she could to protect me from my father - except leave him. At the very least my parents were the adults. That doesn't seem to be the case here.)

Hope those counselors are doing their jobs.

Kate is trash said...

Kate is a no talent ugly mother trying to be a TV star. She has no talent to show for, so she stirs up a lot of drama to keep people interested. Very trashy.

won't watch said...

I know that Kate cried it up for the cops is a show to get the rating back up. I will still not watch. She is so disgusting, I want to vomit whenever I see her face on web pages.

Sugarpop said...

I bet that Days Inn wasn't very comfortable after the last few nights of being put up in fancy hotels by the Today show and Regis!

Apparently, Kate is not allowed to enter the property when Jon is in charge, "UNDER PENALTY OF SEVERNESS!" lol

Tuesday said...

Lordy Bee said"...wandering down a byway in PA screeching...white chair stuck to her ass." THAT is funny. just give it time, the p-people will be on it.

Lux et Umbra said...

I came to this site after having just read about the lovely tributes made to Eunice Kennedy at her funeral on Friday. After I learned here about Kate's misadventure at the gate, I was left shaking my head at the disparity between the two women. Mrs. Shriver was faced with great adversity--consider the tragic deaths in her family of origin, for instance--and yet she gave and gave. Kate has been dealt very little misfortune: she has eight healthy children, no losses of loved ones to death (that I know of), and material prosperity, and yet all she can do is take and take, then take some more.

Some might argue that Mrs. Shriver enjoyed the benefits of great wealth from early on, and that that bounty offered her both time and opportunity for humanitarian work. Indeed, being born into money often helps, but it's not the true measure of a person. Eunice Kennedy Shriver lived her life with true charity and grace. Kate Gosselin seems to be living hers in selfishness and gracelessness.

I'm tired, and I may not have expressed myself well. Still, I wanted to remark on the light that was Eunice and the dark that is Kate. I don't like to be so critical of a person, and especially one I don't know close up, but I'm embarrassed by her as my fellow human being, as well as sad that she has all that she has and doesn't recognize her good fortune.

I wish she'd meditate on the idea of gratitude. Perhaps she will, when all this unseemly TV business is finally over.

enoughalready said...

I read many posts and I have to say I agree with 99.9% of the posts. Is this a pubicity stunt? iTs a very bad one. You do not call the cops on your personal games or gimmicks. Calling the cops puts you on record which does not always reflect in your favor even if YOU called them. This will work very adversely against KG and her mind games. There is only so much control you can have over an ex. And any discussion over this is done through lawyers. You do not take matters in you own hands, they will only Exacerbate the matter. This woman is silly silly silly but that happens when she thinks that only she is the smartest person around and everyone else are fools.

Sondra said...

The US weekly comments are now having a discussion about Kate and Steve - an INTERESTING theory that Kate started all this family hoopla...and I actually believe it.

When women are in power and have risen to the top, there's a voice in their head that allows them to think they can do better than their current love. Look at Jessica Simpson. She ROSE to the top after "newlyweds" and from what I remember, she was the one that called the divorce. Nick was devestated and he went on to date that one girl for a long time. Jessica, on the other hand, had her last 5 minutes (thinkin it would be more) and went through relationship after relationship after relationship - being dumped by every guy she dated...and her career never took off after that.

Also, the "evidence" of this theory (people have been saying) :One of the signs of a married woman with children starting to stray is wearing skirts, showing legs, showing more skin than usual. Most of the pictures, Kate is wearing a skirt showing her legs. The skirt wearing is strange. Having a skirt on would be the last choice when caring for children.

Last but not least, Jon's actions and attitude. Jon...as we now are seeing, is a little "man boy". I think he is right in the sense that he "missed on his 20's"...which is probably one of the most important times in anyone's life b/c it is when you MATURE and know your sense of self. Jon never grew up; he did, however learn how to adapt and to adapt to one's needs (Kate). His behavior is so childish at times and mirrors it. When kids are denied or let down of something they really care about or have a passion for, THEY REBEL. Kate's "potential" affair may have stirred all this up. Tellin Jon it was over was the last thing he wanted and expected...so w. all this anger and frustration - what does he do? He REBELS and does things he's not SUPPOSED to do, to make their family look bad b/c everything him and kate have ever worked for, have gone down the drain b/c of her "supposed fling".

Think about it - it's like telling a teenage boy he can't take the car out. He will....and not only that but do more and more and more things he could EVER do to prove a point and rebel back at you.

Pathetic Parents said...

The video on Radar Online shows Kate returning to the home after the confrontation, she gets out of her SUV, she deliberately ignores Jon with him standing in the cluster of kids, the tension is unbelievable and he drives off without so much as a word or wave between them. Talk about a heated battleground. Those poor children are seeing the absolute worst in parenting going on, those two knuckleheads are creating such a sick and hostile environment that forces the kids to take sides - oh, Mommy is home, I can no longer speak to you daddy, and Kate waves the children to tag along behind her and ignore daddy. The way Kate focused on kissing her kids, using them as props so she wouldn't have to look or speak to Jon is so juvenile. They both need to get off the air now.

brennie said...

When Kate called home and found out the babysitter was Stephanie (who sells shots in a bar and will pose nude for photographers), she should have called her attorney. Surely there is some clause in their divorce proceedings that deals with who either of them can hire. Showing up and pitching a fit was not good judgment

meem said...

If those precious children saw/heard the police debacle, they must have been terrified. What will it take for those parents to actually put the children first, end the drama, and give the children emotional security?

If the parents behave that badly outside, it scares me what could be happening behind closed doors.

I hope the divorce court judges are listening, and require extensive counseling for the entire family. They sure are crying out for help.

msrylee said...

My husband and I live in Ontario, Canada, and are leaving tomorrow to travel in the U.S. Our destination is WV. We are excited about exploring new areas neither of us has visited yet. However, I am sort of leery of travelling through PA and sighting the Gosselins! We wouldn't have difficulty spotting "Katie Irene wandering down a byway in PA screeching incoherantly with bare feet and a white chair stuck to her ass". Thanks, Lordy Bee for a great laugh to start my day!

jessie said...

LOVE what Lux et Umbra said.

I just can't believe what has come of the Gosselin family.

I truly miss the days of the normalcy of Jon, Kate, and their adorable kids. What went wrong?

It is safe to say that the first time they accepted that very first freebie, they began their descent into the hellhole they are in now.

I just wish they would have said NO... No, thank you, we are just using this reality TV show as a way to "document our kids' lives" since we don't even enough time to do that since the sextuplets were born. Hah. Look where it has taken them now!!

Every single time they said YES, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, they lost that focus, that innocence. Instead they became money and fame whores and should be ashamed of themselves.

Look at what they have put their children through.

They have now documented the demise of their family -- happiness and well-being included -- for the whole world to see.

I am just so, so sad for the kids.

pinkdiamond611 said...

I don't believe it was a publicity stunt, because if it was, the Paps would be there recording every second. No, I believe that Khate's world is unraveling. No Peeps followed her to the Days Inn, that was reported after she checked in. Where was she before she showed up at the mansion? Khate is losing control and she can't handle it.

Janine said...

Lux... In light of your very insightful illustration, maybe Eunice Shrivers' daughter will think twice about having Kate sell her autograph at the Womens Conference in Long Beach. You are right... The Kennedy family has done one thing too many times and that is show dignity. DIGNITY is something even the NEW improved K8 has never displayed.

Janine said...

I didn't notice (or read) redrivergrl had called for dignity too... sorry redrivergrl... I guess it's screaming to be said... maybe others have had the very same thought.

kate is a cocky bitch said...

I just saw a clip on MSNBC about Jon calling the police on his crazy wife. And they had someone on saying if they're claiming that they want their privacy why is he then giving a press conference to TMZ? I really think the KONs deserve each other.

Pattypanda said...

Sugarpop said...
I bet that Days Inn wasn't very comfortable after the last few nights of being put up in fancy hotels by the Today show and Regis!

Apparently, Kate is not allowed to enter the property when Jon is in charge, "UNDER PENALTY OF SEVERNESS!" lol

Sugarpop - you made my day - good one.

amymo said...

From the pictures on Just Jared, it's telling to see how the kids are clinging to Jon. I think Jon let Kate come home and see the kids so the kids could know that she wasn't in jail or something.

Anyone else notice how she's downgraded from Starbucks to Dunkin' Donuts coffee now *LOL*

Janine said...

"I may very well lose my mind at any moment, I'll be sure to let you know...
I think she has confirmed it...
CRYING SHAME

Lower Heidelberg Neighbor said...

I have a friend who's ex husband was a control freak and it's driving him crazy that he can't control her anymore...he tries with verbal and mental abuse but he's not winning.

I hope that Kate sees the light and learns that she no longer has any control over Jon and the years of verbal and mental abuse she put him through needs to stop for the sake of the kids.

MBach said...

So, if I have part of this story correct, kate/Hate was driving on a public highway, 95 mph, no headlights while taking turns, and driving in what appeared to be a highly aggressive state.

Well, where were the police then?

Why was the hate/Kate that claimed she couldn't ice skate, ski, ride a pony (I don't know what else) because SHE was too valuable to the family. Oh what would happen to them if she would be injured? SHE had to be safe.

Where was that kate/Hate?
Maybe she was channeling Princess Dianna?

PLEASE everyone - Don't watch this stupid show - it is ALL FAKE.

LentilSoup said...

Wernersville State Hospital Here I Come...

nanasez said...

I could just cry for these children. Jon and Kate both disgust me so much, I can't bear to watch them on TV. I haven't any more of the show than what gets run in promo clips. Still, their names and their horrible behavior pops up on news shows that I watch, and on news sites that I read. When I read about the recent incident at the Konpound, I took a look at a site with some recent pictures, and I just felt like crying for those children.

Jon and Kate are both always on their phones. Always. There are photos of Jon "playing soccer with his kids," but he's on the phone in every picture. Jon says he's "working," trying to line up opportunities to make money to care for his kids. Seriously? These children have supported both parents for years, now. They should have enough money to never have to work again. But of course they don't, because they piss it away.

Look, if Jon wants to "work," fine. He's got three and half to four days a week he's not with his kids. "Work" on those days, jackass! What speaks volumes to me is that I never see a picture of him on the phone when he's with Hailey or any other woman. I don't see pictures of him on the phone in bars. But when he's with his kids, he seems to always be on the phone. (Same thing with Kate.)

Then there are nannies and babysitters taking care of the kids for a big chunk of the time that Jon has them. I suspect the same is true of Kate's time, though she's more careful about having that documented. These kids NEVER seem to have their parents' time or attention unless the cameras are rolling. Then these two greedy, selfish idiots have the nerve to use their children as their excuse for all their behavior. Way to make those poor kids feel responsible.

These children used to be with their parents almost exclusively. Now, their parents visit them, and even during visits can't be bothered to be completely present. Phones occupy them, other people occupy them, and a string of nannies and babysitters keep the kids occupied so their parents don't have to deal with them.

These people make me sick. They love money more than their children. Neither one deserves to have children.

caroleena said...

That TMZ video of Jon telling what happened, who does that to the world?? however I am LMAO at Kate getting regulated!! She thinks the rules don't apply to her, TLC is rolling on the floor trying to scramble to save beloved Kate and how to shut up Jon!! For these 2 lowel level humans that constantly say this is private, what is private? The entire world knows everything that happens becuz these clowns won't shut their pie holes!! poor kids having to deal with all this.

momto5 said...

Sugarpop,

Love your response!!
Now she knows how it feels when she was scrutinizing(sp?)and banning the kids from her *bedroom*. Not a good feeling. But it all makes sense now, she did not want the kids to find out daddy wasn't sleeping with mommy. Karma is paying a visit!

Ohio Buckeye said...

LuxEtUmbro: Eloquently said and on target. Thx for such a great post.

It has amazed me, too, the breadth and depth of K8's lack of gratitude and grace throughout ALL this time, from the very beginning to the present.

The woman seems to have zero dignity, ethics, class. Which makes TLC's presentation of her as some kind of feminine role model insulting to all of us.

If TLC wants to show us something worthy of our viewing time, they need to dump the likes of K8 and replace her self-induced drama-rama and replace her with a program about a woman who is NONabusive, morally-compassed, & mentally hinged. Your example of Eunice Shriver is a great one.

I can't imagine how the execs at TLC are maintaining their employment with the decisions they are making with things like J&K+8 and their other pile of trash, Toddlers & Tiaras.

If the powers that be had any sense at all, they'd fire these current decision-makers and possibly recoup some respect for their network.

C'villeGa mom said...

If this turns out to be a publicity stunt, then it is pure child abuse.
I hope to goodness someone out there has the "goods" on J&K and will bring it forward soon. I know that
what we see on camera is not good, but what is not on camera must be worse. Kate can say the children are living their "normal" all she wants too, but a picture is worth a thousand words.

MomofFour said...

Maybe Kate is trying to get a new job on COPS....lol. Wouldn't that be funny? Watching Kate have a meltdown on cops. She sure fits the trailer trash image...She'd fit right in.

Shannon said...

I have been reading here for quite a while but haven't ever posted. After seeing all the drama with these 2 I just can't even imagine how the divorce will play out. The judge will have his/her hands full with this one! Do you think they will be given joint custody at this point? If not - which one of these "parents" could get sole custody? Ugh what a mess. Poor poor kids.

Dunwoody Mom said...

All I need to know is portrayed in the body language of the children in the latest picture on radaronline. She is shouting at Jon and the kids are looking at the ground, while one of the boy tops has his hand protectively on Jon.

Dear God, what these children must endure from this woman. Please, someone get them away from her!!!!

AnneMarie said...

Look at this photo from Friday when Kate came Back to the house after staying at DaysInn, and tell me that's not confrontation in front of the kids?!?!

She's got that pissy pose with her "what about ME? Jon" hand on her chest.

justjared.com

http://justjared.buzznet.com/photo-gallery/2130651/jon-gosselin-kate-gosselin-reunite-04/

grannoftwo said...

Okay, I just noticed something very telling IMO about the children's behavior when Kate came home Friday. Notice the pics on JJ. I saw only one child come up and jump into Kate's arms, on the other hand I see several children hugging on Jon and acting as if they didn't want him to leave. I didn't notice any children other than the one hanging onto Kate. I did notice her kissing them from a safe distance, but not the way I would have by grabbing them into my arms and giving them the biggest bear hugs EVER after not seeing them and putting them through what they went through the night before. What does this tell us about who the children would rather be with? I think they show more affection towards Jon, because he shows more affection towards them.

craftycorner said...

Kate is not cut out for motherhood. She would have been better off if she was childfree. You cannot, however, take children back when you find out you aren't suitable for the role of motherhood.

Momof2 said...

I agree...this is a total ratings scam.....they are reaching far and wide and have no shame.

They are going to come out of this with no credibility at all once the truth comes out.....those kids are going to be teased about their parent's antics for many years to come. Shame on TLC for all the wonderful "story lines" and "SUGGESTIONS" they are feeding these 2 dolts....all for ratings.

Kate's State said...

Hey Kate, When are you going to pull the stick out? The YARDstick that is. I am sickened by their antics. If I didn't find this website to vent I would explode. So thank you all. The very next day after the police & hotels & car chases Kate is getting her nails done & laughing. Then she goes home & Jon leaves & the looks on the kids faces is so sad. Colin is clinging to Jon's leg. She is not "measuring" what the kids see. They must be so confused. I will not watch ever again. I hope they ruined it all by this little episode. America hates this family now. They should be ashamed of themselves. Sick Sick Sick.

Kiki said...

I deal with criminals, cheats, liars and white/trailer trash lowlifes on a daily basis as a reporter. While Jon and Kate remain slightly more respectable than most of the characters I observe, they're descending fast.

They may have money (which they appear to be blowing through at a fast rate), but the inarticulate fashion in which they communicate, the rudeness, carelessness and arrogance they exhibit, their inability to control their emotions and keep their grievances against each other private are the same characteristics and behavior patterns I see in the riff-raff I report on.

That it has come to this is really no surprise. Kate is emotionally unstable, stubborn, socially clueless and selfish. Jon is an arrested development case, stuck at about age 16.

There are undoubtedly more fireworks ahead. Those poor kids.

Ms.Peach said...

Someone commented on another thread that the paps were on the property taking pics of Kate returning to the house. The paps use telephoto lenses and they have good view of the driveway and front of house.

Also, Jon must have disabled the gate so that Kate could not use her remote or the keypad to enter.

Despite this, it most likely was a publicity stunt by Kate the con artist. Why in the world would she call the cops? If not a stunt, then she is one sick cookie.

silimom said...

I'm pleased that there are only 17 posts so far and this topics been up for a while. While I agree that it's important to keep the exploitation of the kids first and foremost in the news, that goal gets lost amidst the attention grabbing antics of their parents. The only way Jon and Kate are going to stop trying to make the tabloids is if we ignore their behavior as much as possible. Isn't that a basic of parenting - not rewarding negative behavior? And these two bozos need all the parenting they can get, apparently, because they certainly behave like over indulged, narcisstic teenagers with a huge sense of entitlement.

Kannie said...

I don't see the Thursday 911 incident as a publicity stunt. I see it as another symptom of Kate coming unhinged as she watches her carefully crafted 'career' disappear.

If Jon learned anything during their marriage it was how to NOT push Kate's buttons or face her wrath. Now, he's pushing them 24-7 to drive her insane and it's working. Jon is determined to dismantle the 'beautiful lie' they created for television to punish Kate.

It's gonna get uglier.

Freind in New Mexico said...

Sugarpop said:

Apparently, Kate is not allowed to enter the property when Jon is in charge, "UNDER PENALTY OF SEVERNESS!"

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Good on Sugarpop! You made me laugh so hard. A good thing to start this day.

Remy said...

I really don't think that recent police intervention is a publicity stunt. This just maybe the nail in their coffin. The last thing that any network would do is to get the local authorities involved into their production especially on a domestic dispute. Once law enforcement becomes involved everything becomes very serious and very legal. This is not the type of publicity that TLC wants to attract. And if they haven't before advertisers are now seriously going to start to rethink their association with J&K8and their "wholesome" family show.

In Jon's recap to the "P" people about the incident he basically spilled the beans on all help and employees they have on staff. Judy, the full-time "not-a-nanny" and Stephanie, Jon's employee his babysitter, Ashley the "helper," Carla Khate's personal slave, Khate's babysitter and all of the other babysitters who live far away.

Now the premise of this whole show now business was built upon and around a young couple struggling to raise 2 sets of multiples by supposedly themselves and still make ends meet. Khate was been criss-crossing has been county tell her same old story over and over and over again and being pregnant and her struggle to organize. Well, people do not want hear about the bit about how Jon & Khate met especially since they are now close to finalizing their divorce or the bit about tups who are now 5 yrs old - it's old news ad nauseam.

So, in the production meeting the TLC producers and Khate decide to push the single mother Khate martyr anlge now. Khate is now new and improved and has new "Can Do" attitude. For example, Khate rumintated about how she was now the sole decision maker on the family vacation. But apparently the toughest choice she had to make as newly single mother was the choice between beach and pool in the morning or beach and pool in the evening - not exactly a gut wrenching decision.

But here's the thing Jon has now exposed the fact that Khate is not a single mother or parent in the true traditional sense. She has a full-time "not-a-nanny" Judy and host of other babysitters behind the scenes. So, where is the struggle? There is none.

They are living in nice house, drive fancy new cars, have a host "not-a-nanny" help, go on fancy trips ad stay in fancy hotels, and living a highly public upper middle class lifestyle.
This new lifestyle contradicts the image that they are still trying sell to public.

Unfortnately, their children are paying the ultimate price in this whole debacle.

Alcohol coffee anyone? said...

Someone brought up a good point about Kate constantly carrying around a cardboard coffee cup.
Well I am an R.N. and it was a regular ploy of alcohol abusers to carry it in coffee cups, water bottles, hot cups etc. The main point being, that they constantly had this cup in their hand everywhere they went. It got so that we could spot it at a glance.
They got very defensive if we even brought it up. I have a feeling Kate has more then coffee to hide.

P People Info said...

Miss Peach, Love your posts BTW. I think you mean that I wrote that the Paparazzi was actually on the property. I know how far the camera range can be but the video shows they WERE on the property. They are on the other side of the gate & it opens in & Kate drives in. They must have jumped the fence to get the shot. You can hear them get very excited about the whole incident. Think it's on TMZ. Kate beeps the horn too. I'mmmmmmmmm BAAAAAAAAAAAck! Scary.

Chione said...

grannoftwo said...

I didn't notice any children other than the one hanging onto Kate. I did notice her kissing them from a safe distance, but not the way I would have by grabbing them into my arms and giving them the biggest bear hugs EVER after not seeing them and putting them through what they went through the night before. What does this tell us about who the children would rather be with? I think they show more affection towards Jon, because he shows more affection towards them.

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I just looked at the pics, and was thinking the same thing! The one where two of the kids are clinging to Jon is heartbreaking, you can tell that they are suffering in this situation.

The cynic inside me is saying that Jon is just as bad as Kate and that he doesn't care about the kids, just about the money and the "babes" he can pick up now that he's single.

The other part of me hopes that Jon is just acting out because of Kate's oppression and that he will eventually shape up his act and grow up for the kids.

Back when I used to watch J&K I saw Jon playing and bonding with the kids a bit more...I remember a specific example where he played hide and seek with them, and Kate yelled at Jon for hiding in a closet or something.

I really hope that the Jon I saw in that example is the real thing: a man that enjoys being with and caring for his kids, who is just having a personal crisis right now.

But I just don't know, there are so many lies that I can't tell what's true anymore.

Sheeeee 's BAAACK Video said...

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/08/jon-and-kate-reunite-after-heated-argument

OOOPS said...

Sorry, the video wasn't on TMZ, it is on Radaronline.

toad2250 said...

It's sort of fitting that as I read about this family, shaking my head with disbelief at every turn, I'm holding my coffee cup that reads my favorite quote from my favorite TV show, 30 Rock:

"If reality TV has taught us one thing, it's that you can't keep people with no shame down".

Ain't that the truth. Pathetic.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Kiki said... BINGO, Kiki! You have hit the nail on the head in your description of these two and their self-created implosion. They are both in over their heads - they both lack the wisdom, insight, integrity, and grace to handle what they, themselves, have created. God (or Social Services) help the Gosselin 8 - they are aboard a rudderless ship.

Maxwell said...

EXCLUSIVE: Jon Gosselin Now Has Bad Marriage With TLC
Posted on Aug 15, 2009 @ 01:23PM

Kate Gosselin is not the only one who's had enough of Jon Gosselin.

TLC is also extremely unhappy with their Ed Hardy-loving star, sources tell RadarOnline.com exclusively.

One result of that unhappiness is that the network has made a command decision to blur any brand logos that Jon wears on the show.

Yes, right now that means Ed Hardy shirts.

The network blurred the shirt logos last week and high-level executives have now decided to make it a policy, RadarOnline.com has learned.

It's more controversy for Jon, who just the other night dealt with police showing up at his house after he refused to let Kate inside and she dialed 911. RadarOnline.com broke that story Thursday night and reported exclusively that Kate was upset Jon was allowing Stephanie Santoro to babysit -- a woman he hired and recently spent the night with.

More at Link:
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/08/exclusive-jon-gosselin-now-has-bad-marriage-tlc

alexis said...

@ Mikemom

Don't you mean "This is Kate Gosselin, my ex husband has relatives over at OUR KIDS' house"?

ha!

Potential Disaster Dead Ahead said...

Kannie said...
I don't see the Thursday 911 incident as a publicity stunt. I see it as another symptom of Kate coming unhinged as she watches her carefully crafted 'career' disappear. If Jon learned anything during their marriage it was how to NOT push Kate's buttons or face her wrath. Now, he's pushing them 24-7 to drive her insane and it's working. Jon is determined to dismantle the 'beautiful lie' they created for television to punish Kate. It's gonna get uglier.
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ITA. I don't think it's a stunt. She needs to control things and now can't. Plus, this awful way they're living is stressful even on a normal person. My cousin was a cop and often told me the domestic dispute situations are some of the toughest calls he got. I feel terribly concerned for the children. With this kind of animosity and anger, the scene is very unstable. It seems for Kate, it's not just about divorce but an entire lifestyle, existence and future. With it all going down the toilet, and the scramble to save it, this would..as I said...make even a sane person come apart. Driving 95 mph is abnormal behavior. I don't like Jon nor Kate, but I don't want to see anybody get hurt, especially eight children caught in the middle. I believe this is an explosive situation and I don't want to be a part of it anymore even as a commenter.

Disgusted! said...

Ladies and gentlemen: Might I suggest you watch the video on radaronline.com. The DOGS tell us the story even more than the kids' body language. WHen Jon drives off, the DOGS are chasing him in the car and CRYING to him! They know the witch is back and she's going to lock them up and away in a tiny cage, and yell and scream at the very least. When even the dogs are afraid of her and don't want to be around her, why should the kids be forced to be with her. SO SO SO SO freakin sad!

jonandkatewho? said...

Does anybody else feel sort of horrified by the way TLC is behaving towards Jon?

It's almost like they are the friggin' mob or something!

I can't even imagine what they are thinking or why they would think Kate has any potential to be some kind of a star, but their actions are despicable. Jon is the kids' father. I wish he would give TLC the proverbial finger and get some kind of a court order or something to get his kids away from those people at TLC.

I think Jon and Kate should have thought about who they were playing ball with before the first pitch was thrown. TLC obviously plays hardball now. I don't get it. It's a freakin' tv show!

This is all just insane.

Im_in_PR said...

Has anyone ever noticed how the kids NEVER run up to greet Kate when she comes home?

Yet when Jon comes home, they run to him so gleefully and happily.

As an aside, while TLC is obviously trying to reign Jon in and throw their support behind Kate (it's a feminist/liberal media thing) Jon has way too much dirt on Kate for this to work.

Start watching for it people. Leak after leak about Kate's REAL personality behind the scenes.

That's the way it works in this business. If TLC wants to try and play hardball, they should get a better lawyer, because at this point, all the power is in Jon's hands.

Michelle said...

Per Radaronline: TLC wants to send Jon a message loud and clear. They don't like what he is doing. Well...let's think back to the end of the last season. Jon said he just wanted to be himself and that he didn't want to continue with the show.

Get a clue TLC. I am sure he isn't going to do you any favors. Why should he? You are exploiting his children.

I hope when the judge gets a hold of this case, it's stated that the kids can't participate any longer. Jon would have his wishes fulfilled and the kids would be free from being the cash cows that Kate sees them as. She would fade faster than the brightest rainbow if that were to happen.

This circus is just about over and Kate can't blame it on anyone but herself.

It sure will be nice when Jon is free from TLC and can speak his mind. THAT will be fun!

Mikemom said...

Alexis: That is wishful thinking. When they moved in Kate said, "mine all mine ".

Letthefarceend said...

Even the poor dogs know. They were begging to be let in the car to go with Jon.

lovethedogs said...

About the dogs.. I was thinking the other day that the dogs keep a better eye on the kids than either parent. They are always there with them.

All I Do Is Shake My Head said...

Disgusted! said...
Ladies and gentlemen: Might I suggest you watch the video on radaronline.com. The DOGS tell us the story even more than the kids' body language. WHen Jon drives off, the DOGS are chasing him in the car and CRYING to him! They know the witch is back and she's going to lock them up and away in a tiny cage, and yell and scream at the very least. When even the dogs are afraid of her and don't want to be around her, why should the kids be forced to be with her. SO SO SO SO freakin sad!
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I so, so agree. There was a comment, I think the poster named Barking Dogs, who mentioned the dogs were finally seen...but, oh, how they are indeed seen! First of all, Kate walks right by them, although obviously she had a lot on her mind(!). I don't think I've ever seen video or a photograph of Kate interracting with the dogs except for the paparazzi, TLC photo op of bathing them but, even then, if you know dogs, you could see the dogs sitting back and being wary, like what was she going to do next? Those dogs were poised for what they knew could not be good. I figured this was going to happen because it was Jon, 'way back in earlier episodes, who wanted big, outside dogs. All Kate could worry about was shedding, seriously. The dogs and kids must be in a perpetual state of confusion in that household. It's just so unfair..."bless the beasts and the children; give them shelter from the storm; keep them warm."

Dogs And Kids Are Casualties said...

lovethedogs said...
About the dogs.. I was thinking the other day that the dogs keep a better eye on the kids than either parent. They are always there with them.
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Good observation. I hope they're allowed to interract with the dogs a lot but it's probably only when the kids are outside playing. Good, loyal, intelligent German Shepherds...I hope those dogs don't fall to the wayside in all this mess and who's going to wind up where...

Well, One Good Thing With Jon said...

Letthefarceend said...
Even the poor dogs know. They were begging to be let in the car to go with Jon.
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They looked so frantic for him to leave, I was afraid he was going to run over them! Jon is driving me nuts with his weird behavior but at least he must be giving the dogs some attention or they wouldn't react like that.

ToniM said...

MikeMom said (08/14 10:44p)
...I hope next time its Jon's time he invites all the long gone relatives for a barbeque in the front yard, then Kate can rant and rave her disproval over the fence. If the police are called they will realize what a nut case she is: 911, whats your emergency?
This is Kate Gosselin, my ex husband has relatives over at my house.
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I love it! I hope Jon DOES invite Kevin, Jodie, Beth -- whoever, over to the house when Kate's not there. It will drive Kate bonkers! She'll be dialing 911 like a madwoman. What a total fool she is.

TLC is evil said...

TLC has no shame. Taking Kate's side and meddling in someone's divorce and family dispute? TLC is bunch of business men pretending they have an educational channel.

You don't meddle in someone's marriage and/or divorce. Even if you are the best friend. You just don't. You let the husband and wife figure things out without bunch of handlers giving them ideas what to do. Let them think for themselves.

Go ahead, exploit more families, TLC. I won't watch.

Ed Hardy... said...

Maxwell said...

TLC is also extremely unhappy with their Ed Hardy-loving star, sources tell RadarOnline.com exclusively.

One result of that unhappiness is that the network has made a command decision to blur any brand logos that Jon wears on the show.

Yes, right now that means Ed Hardy shirts.

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hahaha! that is freakin' hilarious!
the ed hardy brand doesn't need its logo to be shown.
the design of the shirts themselves IS the brand and they CAN'T blur that.
hahahaha!
TLC is soooo stupid!!!!

I remember Jon's first big F-U to KHate and TLC when he showed up at the tups 5th birthday party in a hoody.....then when the cameras were rolling....he unzipped it to reveal his IU T-shirt from.....
TA-DA.....HAILEY!!

hahaha....too funny!
Go Jon!!

letsgetrealhere said...

'One result of that unhappiness is that the network has made a command decision to blur any brand logos that Jon wears on the show.'

Oh please. Its not like Ed Hardy is the only BRAND that is blurred during the show.
The article makes it seems as if TLC is reprimanding( ie the blurring of the brand name) Jon for wearing Ed Hardy shirts. TLC MUST blur the brand if said brand not a contributing sponsor/advertiser of the show. TLC may very well be po'd at Jon because he wont wear clothing of THEIR choice, but the blurring of the name brand on the clothing is done for the same reason you see other brand name products blurred during the show.

Lux et Umbra said...

I'm in PR said:

As an aside, while TLC is obviously trying to reign Jon in and throw their support behind Kate (it's a feminist/liberal media thing)
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I'm not so sure we can cast TLC's decision as based on purely political motives. If anything, they're playing to the traditional view of the female as the true hearth-warmer and child carer, as the parent upon whom the real emotional content of the family devolves. Kate may be a skewed version of the hallowed mother image, but she's part of the time-valued social construct, nonetheless.

Not a Fan said...

All I need to know is portrayed in the body language of the children in the latest picture on radaronline. She is shouting at Jon and the kids are looking at the ground, while one of the boy tops has his hand protectively on Jon.

Dear God, what these children must endure from this woman. Please, someone get them away from her!!!!

8/15/2009 8:42 AM
Anonymous AnneMarie said...

Look at this photo from Friday when Kate came Back to the house after staying at DaysInn, and tell me that's not confrontation in front of the kids?!?!

She's got that pissy pose with her "what about ME? Jon" hand on her chest.

justjared.com

http://justjared.buzznet.com/photo-gallery/2130651/jon-gosselin-kate-gosselin-reunite-04/
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actually, I thought the same thing at first, which demonstrates the danger of reading too much into a photograph (without context - remember pres obama and the girl's behind on the overseas trip? not what it was made out to be)

i saw the video of that same "encounter" and it was extremely brief and kHate was adjusting her top.
i thought the video would show them arguing, but it was just her passing by, fixing her top and then she was gone.
the photo by itself looks alot more sinister than the actual "exchange" really was.
(i think the video of this is on TMZ....check it out)

i dislike kHate immensely, but also want to be sure criticism of her is fair...

mom2twinsto said...

I came on here to make a comment but some of you had my thoughts.
When I looked at the "reunion" pictures, body language says it all. The children are looking toward their mother and the way they are standing shows me how they fear her. They are tense.
Meanwhile the kids are holding onto Jon who is showing real care by holding them back.

It is very telling. The kids fear their mom and feel safe with their dad.

I went to the sheeple site and their comments are scarier than ever. Kate is so cute, I feel so sad for her. Why?
Jon may be acting like a tool but the bottom line is that he genuinely cares. TLC and the media are making Jon look more foolish than he is - on purpose. He has done some dumbass things, but, he is still the only parent that loves those children.

It is sick. These kids are clearly emotionally damaged and all the sheep can say is how cute Kate is.

Poor Kate - I have one word for you - karma

stupidisasstupiddoes said...

If Kate was witnessed to have been driving at speeds in excess of 90 miles an hour on the highway, then why didnt anyone take the time to call the police and report her!
Very irresponsible behavior on Kate's part, as well as the witnesses that did not call the police and report such activity!

ThanksAlcoholicCoffee said...

Alcohol coffee anyone? said...
Someone brought up a good point about Kate constantly carrying around a cardboard coffee cup.
Well I am an R.N. and it was a regular ploy of alcohol abusers to carry it in coffee cups, water bottles, hot cups etc. The main point being, that they constantly had this cup in their hand everywhere they went. It got so that we could spot it at a glance.
They got very defensive if we even brought it up. I have a feeling Kate has more then coffee to hide.

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Thank You!

My alcoholic mother carried a coffee mug all day every day until the 5 pm "cocktail hour", at which time she transferred her booze to a glass. I'm the one who said Kate wasn't drinking coffee. You are the first person who has responded to the comment.

Been there -- I know what I'm seeing, and I'm afraid it doesn't bode well for the children.

Lux et Umbra said...

Thanks for the several positive comments on my earlier post about Eunice Shriver as over against Kate Gosselin. It was written from the heart. My history of losses, unfortunately, is much like Mrs. Shriver's.
One of the ways I've been able to get through (though never over) such tragedies is by reminding myself that I'm lucky to have had the loved ones at all, regardless of the amount of actual time I shared this earth with them. Gratitude's not a buzz word for me, it's a mode of being. I wish both the Gosselins would consider the many reasons they have to be thankful, and give up on the petty matters that constitute their lives nowadays.

Philly Hockey Mom said...

(Notice the pics on JJ. I saw only one child come up and jump into Kate's arms,)

Was it the ever favorite Hannah????

(TLC is also extremely unhappy with their Ed Hardy-loving star, sources tell RadarOnline.com exclusively)

Jon is in full rebel mode. He probably gets paid whether he is on the show 5 minutes or 25 minutes so why not piss them off so he gets a little air time as possible? He has said in the past, he is tired of the show. Sadly, he just lets the kids carry on with Kate rather than fighting for them. My feeling is neither Jon nor Kate want to be full time parents at this point in time and being with your kids only three/four days a week is a sweet set up. When they are with the kids they have cooks, helpers a pool, what's not to like? Oh yeah....those pesky twins and tups.

Organic Lollipops said...

stupidisasstupiddoes said...

If Kate was witnessed to have been driving at speeds in excess of 90 miles an hour on the highway, then why didnt anyone take the time to call the police and report her!
Very irresponsible behavior on Kate's part, as well as the witnesses that did not call the police and report such activity!

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This is getting way too Diana-esque for me. I hate Kate but I also do NOT want to see the total destruction of a human being. She was going that fast because the "P People" were probably behind her, along side of her...

Girl is going to lose it FAST. These kids don't need a broken down woman as a mother. She's bad enough as it is.

Oh well, maybe the mysterious nanny/not a nanny and far away babysitters will be enough. And who knows- maybe the lovely Hailey Glassman is a natural mommy figure. Maybe.

I'm a child custody lawyer, as I've said before, and there's always a certain amount of shaking out of custody rules that happens. But that usually results in frantic, angry calls to the LAWYERS, not the police- especially for high profile families. This is not a good sign at ALL.

Connie said...

TLC is pathetic!!! But they're probably LOVING all this attention! Which makes them even more pathetic! I think we're going to learn a lot from Hailey when she's on E! on Monday. She will be Jon's mouthpiece since TLC has censored him. Good for her and him!! I know it's not the popular point of view but I like Hailey and if she makes Jon happy, more power to 'em. Jon sincerely loves those children...and the kids (as well as the dogs) know it.

Kate needs mental/emotional help to turn herself around. But she's got to want it and I'm not sure that's going to happen anytime soon. Maybe it will be court ordered and a condition of joint custody. What a mess!!

John and Kate who cares said...

There may be light at the end of the tunnel after all. With TLC siding with Possumhead and pushing Jon out. They might be pushing the children out also. When the divorce is finalized Jon can go to court and refuse to have the children filmed. He is no longer married to Khate and with joint custody and a good group of lawyers this could be a possibility. It certainly would be a great way to get back at Khate. It really seems that Jon is trying to piss off employer.

Stopwastingpolicetime said...

Hmmm. Ratings down, again. So, let's create a sensation. Enter Jon and Kate + Gate....

My heart breaks for those kids. They are pawns in this ridiculous game. Why does Kate think that wearing her wedding rings is protecting her kids when she thinks nothing of screaming through a locked gate and calling in the cops? I also feel so sorry for those beautiful dogs. They are always near Jon in any pictures, but are nowhere to be seen when it's just Kate and the kids.

In Kate's own words to Meredith Viera "its a unique job". It's a JOB. Why can't the PA government use Kate's own words to prove what we all see - the kids are working at the same "unique job". There's also tape of Jon calling it his job but for the kids, it's life.

Why wasn't Kate charged for driving at high speeds with the truck lights off? Where I live, the public can report dangerous driving and if the witness is willing to write up a report at a police station, they will follow up and charge the driver. My husband got a drunk driver off the road that way. If that pap was willing to testify to what he saw, Kate should be charged with reckless driving. My god, if she hit someone at one of those intersections while she turned off the lights, she could kill someone. Use the police for a reasonable complaint, not for a screaming, hysterical bitch who can't get through a gate.

The only TV show that I will ever watch of these two idiots is if its on Court TV. They are criminals.

Im_in_PR said...

Lux et Umbra said...



I'm not so sure we can cast TLC's decision as based on purely political motives. If anything, they're playing to the traditional view of the female as the true hearth-warmer and child carer, as the parent upon whom the real emotional content of the family devolves. Kate may be a skewed version of the hallowed mother image, but she's part of the time-valued social construct, nonetheless.

Thanks for your comments. I would disagree regarding the point that TLC is standing by Kate as the hallowed Mother image.

On the contrary, Kate is the almost ideal feminist image: Went to school (2 year college, but still went) married, controlled the male partner, had the kids, and NOW is living the feminist dream that says "It's really no problem at all for the mother to leave the children in pursuit of HER DREAMS. See, look at Kate Gosselin, you CAN have it all."

I think that what TLC didn't count on was the fact that the majority of people were INCENSED when Kate elected to leave her children for very long periods of time when financially she didn't have to- she left her kids to promote herself.

See what I mean? TLC just didn't count on the outrage.

Kate is actually the antithesis of the hallowed mother image.

She doesn't like her kids, she is outspoken in her personal dislike of her male children. She only appears to have any kind of maternal love for one of her female children, Hannah.
She actually admitted as much when she talked about Hannah being the only one she bonded with as a baby.

She abhors any traditional motherly duty. We have seasons and seasons of proof of that.
She just isn't mommy material, sadly enough.

Disgusted said...

I have always thought Jon wanted out and was going to try and get the kids free and clear of TLC with him. He may never be able to free them from their poor excuse of a mother, unless he can show some serious abuse and endangerment. But he can definitely convince a judge to free them from the grips of any TLC contract. Please, I hope that Jon was smart enough to ask his lawyer this question. I'm a lawyer. Were he my client, I would be subpoenaing ALL of the TLC footage and compiling the worst of Kate to show the judge, to get the best custody arrangement in order, and importantly, to keep TLC out of the house and away from them forever.

And I am afraid any one holding out any hope for the PA department of labor to intervene is wasting their time. I just don't see it happening.

amymo said...

FYI I live right off 222 N. of Reading (in fact drove it today) and it's not a safe drive at all. It turns into a rural 2 lane highway. She's nuts for going that speed on that road. Why didn't anyone report her (like the paparazzi following her).

Portion freak said...

The Divorce judge should decree the kids are not to be put outside at the picnic table in the hot sun in view of the paparazzi or fed a constant diet of pre-packaged snack foods - Kate is so lazy she buys sliced fruits and grapes, yogurt, juice boxes, etc and all served up on paper plates. The kids are obsessed with food, everything is doled out to them, they have no freedom whatsoever, why not make a plate of sandwiches Kate and let the kids help and feed themselves! Portion control freak.

So disgusted said...

The Gosselin 8's story is even more tragic and absurd when you read and hear of the Stansel family in Houston. Two of their 6 newborns passed within a few days, and now 11 days in, ALL of the 4 remaining babies are struggling on with severe brain hemmorrages, grade 1-4. As many people who have had preemies know, Grade 3/4 typically leave you with damage, even if they clear. God help them! And why should we care about these extremely fortunate and blessed fools who cannot recognize the bullets they have dodged?!?! THey pay lip service to their gratitude, but their actions speak volumes. Actions speak louder than words. Period.

Connie said...

TLC could care less about Jon, Kate, the kids, or the dogs! What they care about is ratings = $$$$$$. In their world, people and animals are expendable if they jeopardize their "money". I hope Eileen O'Neill & TLC are taken down after this! And laws are passed to prevent this type of reality programming in the future. JMHO

Christine said...

The picnic table in front of the garage makes no sense Kate! and you don't really need a picnic table for juice boxes and yougurt cups! Why aren't you doing a little picnic grilling, sure the kids might like a burger or some chicken! This has to be the most obvious set of for p-people pics I have seen yet.

I have to also agree about the coffee cup. My mom has alot of the same narcissistic qualities as Kate and it has been hard to deal with. The best example to give is that my mom talks so much about herself, I went through my entire prganancy and gave birth and I could never get a word in that I was pregnant till after the baby came (I live in another state). My mom carried around an insulted coffee mug and it was not till I was older I knew it had alcohol in it. She obviously had mental illness but never wanted to admit she hasd anything wrong with her because in her eyes see was perfect and always right and getting medical help would make her have to admit it she was not perfect so the "special coffee" was her self medication.

something's rotten in wernersville said...

I for one am not convinced that all this is NOT a publicity stunt. Think about it. These people have been courting the tabloids ever since ratings started slipping. It's all too neatly timed for publicity. The divorce was filed HOURS before the big announcement show. What a way to ensure ratings! Ever since then, it's been one thing after another. I personally don't believe Jon is really dating any of these young horseface famewhores. Don't you think he'd pick someone at least halfway decent looking? From Deanna to Hailey to Kate Major to Stephanie, these young women are all facially challenged and seem desperate for fame/ attention or even money which I think TLC provided for all of them. And that includes Deanna's shady criminal brother. All these people seem like they would do anything for 10 or 20 thousand or whatever pittance TLC threw them plus a couple of tabloid pics for national attention.

I think Regis hit too close to home when he hinted at a reconciliation, hence the PR team arranged the fake cops brawl. Do we have any evidence that the cops actually even showed up? The paps were there. Where are the pics? All we got was a solemn looking Kate doing a showy stoic walk to the Days Inn (which I am sure was ONLY for publicity since she stays at only the most exclusive hotels) It's 'reported' that she was crying screaming freaking out. We saw none of that? To me she looked cool and calculating as ever.

When people looked into the 911 call, there was none! IT was reported Kate called a non emergency number. WTF? I call BS. Either she's crazy and has the non emergency number programmed into her phone, or else the whole thing was faked!

Then the next day Jon and Kate met face to face in frony of the paps? Again highly unlikely if there was really a brawl! It seems like they exchanged a few words like "that worked like a charm" then parted.

JOn lost me when he gave the interview against jodi and kevin and denied his kids were being exploited. His complete indifference to his kids emotional needs is scary. He's as bad as Kate, I'm sure, and wants to ride this gravy train to the end.

Someone mentioned that Kate has been spotted going in and out of Jon's NY apartment. Has this been reported anywhere? That would clinch the fakeness of this whole thing as another ploy by the greedy grifter Gosselins.

Pedal To The Metal, Kate! said...

ThanksAlcoholicCoffee said...
Alcohol coffee anyone?

"I am an R.N. and it was a regular ploy of alcohol abusers to carry it in coffee cups, water bottles, hot cups etc."

"My alcoholic mother carried a coffee mug all day every day until the 5 pm "cocktail hour", at which time she transferred her booze to a glass."
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Speculation, of course, but it certainly doesn't look good, does it? My cousin and his wife were "functioning" alcoholics in the South who were never without a tall, plastic tumbler of sweet tea in their hands...while cooking, driving, reading, sitting, walking (well, I could go on and on but won't). I'm so naive...it wasn't til I was an older adult and both died of alcohol-related illness/disease, that their daughter told me there was something more than ice in that ever-present, ever-lov'in tea. (It's like their right hands were in a permanent, locked position from always holding that drink tumbler.)

Now, Jon would, in the good 'ol days, make his wife coffee in the early morning when the tups were babies, and talk about how Kate couldn't cope without her morning java. It's possible she drinks coffee from morning til night, although that much caffeine is probably not a good idea for her right now (already stirred up enough; doesn't need the buzz).

Whatever she drinks, I hope she doesn't do it when driving. Seems she's a bit of a leadfoot.

momto5 said...

Just an observation,
I have never heard of the arrangement J&K have in regards to the living arrangements they have for them and the kids. It is really strange. The usual arrangement is the kids live with mom/dad and then they go every other weekend to the parent who lives out of the house and stays with them. Most of my divorced/separated friends have this arrangement. Which leads me to believe that J&K rely heavily on babysitters and not-a-nannies to help raise their kids. I would bet there are times those kids spend days upon days alone with the not a nanny. I feel this arrangement is in the best interest of J&K, not the kids. J&k want freedom when they want it, so that is why they got their separate places. Also making it seem like they are doing all this for the kids, by keeping the kids in the mansion for supposedly stability. And already look what this *arrangement* has brought them to. Police involvement. And probably a horrible altercation in front of the kids. I feel Jon should had moved back to the old house and lived there, so he had enough room to bring the kids back on his weekends. Or at least got a place anywhere big enough to bring all the kids to stay with him. This is going to get uglier and the kids are just going to suffer even more, especially when their idiot parents remarry. Kate will always be giving Jon a hard time and will pin the kids against him. Very sad situation.

Barking Dogs said...

Watching the dogs cry after, and follow Jon's car down the driveway, was heart breaking!!!!

Finally, one of the little girls starts to call the dogs back.

After raising, training and living with GSDs for over 30 years, I trust what they have to say . . . um . . . bark.

momto5 said...

Oh forgot to mention,this whole meltdown at the gate is just another *gate* piled on top of all the other *gates*. KATE-GATE

pattijean said...

msrylee said...

My husband and I live in Ontario, Canada, and are leaving tomorrow to travel in the U.S. Our destination is WV.

I live in WV, and would just like to welcome you to our wonderful state. I can pretty much guarantee that you will see msny sights, but Kate running down the road stuck in her white chair will not be one of them.

Lux et Umbra said...

I'm in PR said:

I would disagree with the point that TLC is standing by Kate as the hallowed Mother image.
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I don't think TLC is bent on portraying Kate as the ideal mother, but I do believe that they're focusing on the female parent in order to appeal to whatever residual nostalgia many of us have for the "olden days" when mothers were the primary guardians of the hearth, or, at least, were construed to be.

I don't like to define Kate as a feminist. Certainly, she has sought a life for herself outside the home, but she doesn't seem to have done it with any courage and grace. She's just grabbed for what she's wanted, and let the consequences to anyone else be damned. On the other hand, though I'm no angel, I've managed to get the PhD, have an active career, and yet give my greatest attention to my family. I've privileged the personal over the professional, as ego-satisfying as the latter can be. Kate's put no real thought into what she's done: she's just fallen headlong into her current state. I don't think she deserves the label "feminist," which, on my view, can only be earned through fortitude and forthrightness.

Thanks for your comments, PR. They are cogent and well-considered, and I appreciate your having taken the time to respond to my own.

Steph said...

I was going to say I don't get why kate would choose to have a picnic with her kids on the driveway but I KNOW why! it's just so sad that they have a beautful house with a beautiful back yard and it seems they're always on the driveway.

Tetotomom said...

Philly Hockey Mom said...

(Notice the pics on JJ. I saw only one child come up and jump into Kate's arms,)

That looked like Mady to me. She was a bit taller than the tups . I think when the girl went to K8 she was told to jump in her arms like that.

blackisthenewblack said...

Someone ought to tell Kate how utterly RIDICULOUS she looks when she wears that denim mini skirt with "heels" and that dumb hat. Also, looks like she still has some sort of ring on as a wedding ring. She needs Stacy and Clinton from "What Not To Wear"...think I could nominate her??

Melissa said...

My boyfriend lives just outside Wernersville, PA. Every time I visit, I kid you not, I see at least one or two camera vans or photographers stalking the malls or grocery stores. It's a sickness. I don't even live there and I'm ready to throw up over it. I talked to some locals, and half of them want J+K removed from the township.

sugarjay said...

Remy said...
I really don't think that recent police intervention is a publicity stunt. This just maybe the nail in their coffin. The last thing that any network would do is to get the local authorities involved into their production especially on a domestic dispute. Once law enforcement becomes involved everything becomes very serious and very legal. This is not the type of publicity that TLC wants to attract. And if they haven't before advertisers are now seriously going to start to rethink their association with J&K8and their "wholesome" family show.

In Jon's recap to the "P" people about the incident he basically spilled the beans on all help and employees they have on staff. Judy, the full-time "not-a-nanny" and Stephanie, Jon's employee his babysitter, Ashley the "helper," Carla Khate's personal slave, Khate's babysitter and all of the other babysitters who live far away.
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I could not agree more. Kate is about to go off the deep end IMO. She just cannot comprehend that Jon isn't tolerating her crap anymore and that he has parental rights just like she does. Calling the police was just her way of trying to control Jon like she's used to. Do you think that Kate would stop having Mr. Gray be her and the children's "bodyguard" if Jon had a problem with it?

I caught that video on radaronline where Jon was talking about his full time nanny. Supermom has a full time nanny as opposed to the woman who didnt' want to be on camera who worked part time because Kon would never have a nanny? LOL

I think this divorce is about to get very, very ugly. There is no way in hell control freak Kate is going to willingly allow Jon to be at her mcmansion regularly and have the ability to keep her out and make decisions she'd never make. She's in for a rude awakening though, just because Jon is acting like a poon hound and dressing like a douchebag doesn't change the fact that he has rights. rights.

formerfan said...

Kate has a severe personality disorder and that is why she cannot maintain a relationship with anyone...her parents, now her husband and she has admitted on the show she has no one to fall back on. I predict she will become estranged from her children in the future and times will be tough for her when her kids get beyond the age where a mother controls what they do. She needs therapy and so does Jon. I hope it will be madated y their divorce.

grannyoftwo said...

One last statement about the reunion pics from Friday....I was always told and have always seen it to be true that you cannot fool children or animals. They are true judges of true feelings of good vs. evil or real love vs. fake love. In my "honest" opinion, I have always found that to be true in my life experiences. These children may be damaged, but they can still sense who has a real heart and whose heart may be turned to stone. They will always love both their parents, but they are not stupid. Bless their little hearts! If I were there I would grab them up and hug them till they asked me to let them go, that is how a mother/grandmother thinks, usually. Right all you mothers/grandmothers out there? I just don't understand Kate's mindset, of course our minds are not set on money and power and fame, just our families and how we can raise them to be loving, caring, adults in society.

PaLisa said...

So disgusted said...

The Gosselin 8's story is even more tragic and absurd when you read and hear of the Stansel family in Houston. Two of their 6 newborns passed within a few days, and now 11 days in, ALL of the 4 remaining babies are struggling on with severe brain hemmorrages, grade 1-4. As many people who have had preemies know, Grade 3/4 typically leave you with damage, even if they clear. God help them! And why should we care about these extremely fortunate and blessed fools who cannot recognize the bullets they have dodged?!?! THey pay lip service to their gratitude, but their actions speak volumes. Actions speak louder than words. Period.
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I do believe they counted on making money off those kids. They are fools. You would think since she was a diabetic, already had 2 miscarriages (with only 1 baby) They would have done all they could to try and just carry 1 healthy baby instead of a litter. I tell you this is getting more and more disgusting. They are looking for handouts and her husband stated that who are we to judge? We are the same people you expect to pay for your foolishness. Kate Gosselin be damned for starting all this nonsense. There is a special place in hell just for her

Organic Lollipops said...

Control? Why do you think she's got her ring on? If that's not the last vestige of control I don't know what is... and it's for the kids (of course) because with all that they are going through it would be "too upsetting" to see her without her ring on.

Yo, Kate, your ring is but a deck chair on the Titanic.

Jon is rebelling against her, their common employer, and the world. Soon each and every child will do the same thing and it won't be pretty.

IMHO this is NOT a publicity stunt- no one in their right mind would set this crazy act in motion. There are no brakes in this fiasco.

My biggest concern at this point is that something will happen to Kate. The kids are already headed for eating disorders (rebelling against control), promiscuity (trying to find the love they didn't get as children), drug addiction (trying to fit in with the peers they were denied as kids- and for all the other reasons that I won't even bother to list), and anti-social behavior (like most other children pimped out by their parents, Exhibit A being Miss Lohan). Jon will be just fine.

I am done as a commenter. I think my work here is done, lol (but not lol). I came into this as a concerned Law Guardian and I think that GWoP has done a lot of good. That charade would still be marching along if it weren't for GWoP. But I am so worried that someone's going to really go off the deep end and I'm not going to fan the flames any more. Hopefully if we quit giving it oxygen they will

fade

away.

The Low Class Network said...

re: tlc not wanting the bad publicity that comes with the police being called...i disagree. tlc doesn't care about jon or kate...tlc doesn't care about the kids and they don't care what kind of publicity these fools get...they'll take any- good or bad. i'm sure they think the ratings will improve monday bc people will tune in to see if this little incident will be discussed and sadly they're probably right.

Mrs. Goofy Hat said...

I guess Kate does not realize how utterly GOOFY she looks in the pink hat pulled so far down over her ears that its like a stocking cap, add the 'bug' sunglasses and she looks like a circus clown. For someone that pretended to be so fashion conscious when she was running around the country with Steve, she's certainly done a big turnaround.

bikerbabe2 said...

Don't I remember Kevin and Jodi saying Kate locked Jon out of the house several times?! LOL!! HEHE!

I just have to say, GOOD FOR JON!

With Kate out of town, he must have searched the house and found his balls........finally!

Too bad he is living the lowlife...if he would straighten up and fly right, I would be on his side. He is an embarrassment to his kids, but glad he finally gave Kate what she deserved!!

She wanted the divorce. He tried counseling and wanted to stay married. She didn't.

This is what you get when you get divorced: NO CONTROL! You have no control on who your spouse brings into your kids lives...no control on who will be their "second" mom...or in Jon's case their third and fourth mom...NO CONTROL, KATE...NO CONTROL!!

I DO think Jon needs to worry about his life. A control freak like Kate, who I think is more like that Peterson cop who kills his wives....will do anything to stay in control, especially when they are losing control of the 8 little money makers!

sickandtwisted said...

Christine said...
The picnic table in front of the garage makes no sense Kate!

I agree. What makes the whole thing even more ridiculous is that an INDIVIDUAL(s) actually moved and positioned the picnic table in front of the garage door on the driveway where the children would be eating their lunch in full view of the paparazzi and the thought NEVER ONCE crossed their mind that maybe this isnt such a good idea!! It isnt enough that these 8 children are forced to perform for a TLC 'reality tv' show, but their daily lives are now being put on the display for the paparazzi. Mommy Dearest at her finest!

alsoamomtotwins said...

There is no way TLC set up, conspired or approved the Kate-Jon-Police scene.

No way.

TLC is dangerously close to having advertisers pull out because of the controversy surrounding the show, they are being targeted by a child abuse watch dog group and they are trying desperately to reel Jon back in as his behavior spins further and further out of control.

There is no chance that they want their "stars" in any way associated with the police.

Now Kate may have had a different plan but I'm sure it wasn't approved by TLC.

alsoamomtotwins said...

The Low Class Network said...

re: tlc not wanting the bad publicity that comes with the police being called...i disagree. tlc doesn't care about jon or kate...tlc doesn't care about the kids and they don't care what kind of publicity these fools get...they'll take any- good or bad.

I would like to respectfully disagree. Bad publicity IS almost always undesirable.

TLC may not care about Jon and Kate as people but they most certainly care deeply about the "Jon and Kate" brand. TLC has invested a lot of money creating the Jon and Kate brand and I am confident that TLC is ripping their hair out trying to figure out how to protect and rehabilitate that brand. Domestic disputes, police being called, high-speed chases, shot girls who will pose nude and children left with multiple nannys does not in any way support the brand they built.

The Low Class Network said...

and...re: the good publicity/bad publicity debate -

i'm pretty sure tlc realizes that their golden couple is gone and that they no longer appeal to the kinds of people that used to tune into TLC for a wholesome educational TV show -- i think they're playing to the "Rock of Love" crowd now.

Clear the road said...

Kate's risking driving behavior is risky and selfish to say the least.

I hope she doesn't kill or hurt anyone.

I've lived several areas in PA, and Berks co. is DEER COUNTRY. Yes, you can get killed if you hit a deer - especially if they flip through the windshield into the car and smash you in the head or kick you to death.

The "double yellow line" parts of even major routes are often windy, poorly paved, and slope harshly to let the rain run off. Not too many guard rails on those, and the trees are right close up to the sides in some places. Rarely is there a shoulder, either.

A reminder, in case you forgot, Kate - you wanted to avoid risk so your kids wouldn't grow up motherless - but I guess that wasn't an important enough reason - so here's a two more reasons to clean up your driving act:

1) Hitting a deer would ruin the paint job on your Land Cruiser.

2) If you kill or injure someone, they will sue you and take ALL your money away. (Well, it's really your kids money, but you don't seem to get that.)

IMHO, Kate's cavalier attitude about driving like a maniac and endangering herself and everyone else on the road shows what an uncaring, selfish, and possibly unbalanced and dangerous person she can be.

Kitty The Dog's Blog said...

Brennie said:

When Kate called home and found out the babysitter was Stephanie (who sells shots in a bar and will pose nude for photographers), she should have called her attorney. Surely there is some clause in their divorce proceedings that deals with who either of them can hire. Showing up and pitching a fit was not good judgment

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Im wondering if they have (and if they don't they should) a Right of First Refusal clause in their Temp Orders. This usually states that if its (for example) Jon's time and he can't (or won't) take care of the kids, then Kate gets the first opportunity to take care of the kids in his absence. It should also state who would be suitable (Kevin and Jodi IMHO) to watch the kids. Not to stick up for Kate but if they h ad that clause and she found out she was not given the right of first refusal maybe thats why she got mad. But she should have called her lawyer.

K8TERH8TER said...

Just curious to know if anyone is buying Kate's Health-Tex clothing line at Wal-Mart. The clothes look cute, but if we all refused to purchase them, perhaps Health-Tex would smarten up and give all the clothes to charity!!!

Kate'sFate said...

Wasn't PEACE the word that they kept using to justify this divorce? "Peace for the kids" blah blah blah... tears tears tears. Yes, I am seeing TONS of peace going on in this household.

Connie said...

It looks to me like TLC has lost control of BOTH Jon & Kate, and they're just trying to keep the lid on things. Problem is, the weekly show can in no way compete with this real life catastrophe that's being played out in interviews and the tabloids. And I can't imagine that TLC can or would use P-photos for the series so where does that leave this boring little show they're producing??

Hopefully on the cutting room floor having edited it into nothingness.

anotherthing... said...

what a nut job.

begining of the end, maybe?

i suppose now we wait and see how long TLC/pr firms will clean up her act for her.

and wait for the kids to be safe.

i agree that the kids do seem to be unsettled in the recent pics. the emotional toll becomes more and more visible. completely heartbreaking.

*sigh*

FeedThoseChildren! said...

Portion freak said...
The Divorce judge should decree the kids are not to be put outside at the picnic table in the hot sun in view of the paparazzi or fed a constant diet of pre-packaged snack foods - Kate is so lazy she buys sliced fruits and grapes, yogurt, juice boxes, etc and all served up on paper plates. The kids are obsessed with food, everything is doled out to them, they have no freedom whatsoever, why not make a plate of sandwiches Kate and let the kids help and feed themselves! Portion control freak.

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I've been wondering about the weird un-childlike diet those kids have. Is it possible that Kate, to make it easy for her to stay on a diet, makes the kids eat ONLY what she eats? She's selfish and mean enough to do that, but that is NOT healthy for growing children. Even bacon -- nitrite-free and organic -- is a perfectly healthy thing for kids that age. They need the calories to grow.

redskiesatnight said...

Im just not getting Kate's need to continue wearing her wedding ring.
#1 The significance of wearing a wedding ring is the commitment between HUSBAND AND WIFE not a symbol of 'loyalty' between PARENT AND CHILD(REN). #2 The children know their parents are divorcing. Kate wearing her wedding ring for another day, week, month isnt going to make the divorce process any less devasting for the children. #3 Kate REFUSES to remove her wedding ring to prove to her children that SHE has not given up on the FAMILY, despite the fact that she wants absolutely nothing to do with her children's father and the MARRIAGE is OVER. Again, Kate has re defined the ring's original significance to better fit HER own self serving purposes!!

HannaBelleLechter said...

QUOTE EXCERPT: "On the contrary, Kate is the almost ideal feminist image: Went to school (2 year college, but still went) married, controlled the male partner, had the kids, and NOW is living the feminist dream that says 'It's really no problem at all for the mother to leave the children in pursuit of HER DREAMS. See, look at Kate Gosselin, you CAN have it all.'"

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What you describe above is not the feminist dream or ideal at all.

I am a feminist. I'm also a mother of many children, whom I delivered myself (one at a time). My husband and I have been married for decades, first and only marriage for each of us. I hold one bachelor's, two masters, and a Ph.D. I've been a professional journalist in one form or another for my entire adult life.

As my children were born, I adapted and adjusted, but they were always the central focus on my life. In every way. My husband and I were always our children's primary caregivers -- that was our choice and our desire. In those early years, I worked nights and weekends, or freelance, or part-time, or as an independent contractor for authors with whom I had established long-term relationships over time.

To think that anyone (especially on this blog, which strikes me as inhabited by predominantly intelligent and educated people) would conclude that a feminist desires to "control her male partner," then to "leave the children in pursuit of HER own dreams" bothers me to my core. Those views are a dreadful misrepresentation of feminists. And those views are just.plain.wrong. People like Rush Limbaugh, for example, who have made a career of calling strong, independent women, "feminazis," have done their country and half of its population a tremendous disservice. (And, btw, when Gov Palin arrived on the scene, Rush was orgasmic with delight. Hate to tell them, but Sarah is a feminist in everything but name.)

I recommend the AMC series Mad Men for those who are too young to have known the inequities and heartaches that attached to educated, talented women before the age of feminism and equality in the workplace. Tomorrow night is the third-season premier. Characters have evolved but the series stays true to its time. Try to watch the first season on DVD or when AMC runs a marathon. The character of "Peggy," could have been me or dozens of other women I knew coming up through the ranks in the 60s and 70s. Peggy is a talented, sharp young woman, who hires on as a secretary in the ad agency. Secretary, switchboard operator, receptionist, maybe an occasional office manager -- those were the only jobs available for even the most educated, skilled women. But, for Peggy, it's not long until people cannot help but see her talents and her innate instincts for representing clients as they advertised on radio and in the relatively new medium of tv.

Only because Peggy finds a benefactor in Don Draper (Jon Hamm), can her talents fully emerge. Still, she has to fight for absolutely everything that just automatically gets handed to her male counterparts -- like competitive pay, an assistant, her own office, rather than her secretarial desk in the middle of the huge expanse of other secretarial desks. (And a couple of those male coworkers are inept and incompetent, too. No matter. They wear pants.) And don't get me started on the sexual harassment, the pawing and manhandling, to outright physical attacks. I lived through those, as did so many of my work-sisters.

I think Kate Gosselin is a manipulative, scheming opportunist. She's quite cutthroat too. I hate -- HATE -- the unrelenting way she has thrust her children into the limelight and into an emotional-harm's way in her almost manic desire for fame and fortune. I will not, however, allow her pathologies to represent -- or misrepresent -- the noble idea of feminism, and to bring that noble idea down into the gutter of caricature.

Judy said...

As an aside, while TLC is obviously trying to reign Jon in and throw their support behind Kate (it's a feminist/liberal media thing) Jon has way too much dirt on Kate for this to work.

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I don't think it's a feminist/liberal media thing. IMO, It's purely a $$ decision. Kate has always had more support, more women watch the show. The people on this blog and others may not support her, but there are STILL a lot of clueless women who think of her as a goddess. TLC needs this show to continue to keep up the advertising revenues, to be able to start up new shows when this one's gone -- notice how many new shows they've been throwing out recently? They KNOW JK+8 won't last that long -- they need to get something up that will take over when they leave so they're milking it right now for all they can. Kate as a single mother works for them far better than anything else that they have to work with so that's what they're trying to do. Some people are really stupid enough to discount all the bad press about her and believe the portrait of the show.

Commonsensical said...

I have a rather obvious question. It's 7 pm, Jon is at home with the kids - why is a babysitter needed? Why do either of them need a babysitter there, what seems like 24/7?

The children are old enough to not need constant attention and despite their wacky upbringing, they seem to be relatively bright and respectful.

Why do they need babysitters all the time?

Sidney said...

Mrs. Goofy Hat said...
I guess Kate does not realize how utterly GOOFY she looks in the pink hat pulled so far down over her ears that its like a stocking cap, add the 'bug' sunglasses and she looks like a circus clown. For someone that pretended to be so fashion conscious when she was running around the country with Steve, she's certainly done a big turnaround.

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Is she trying to be "incognito?" Those glasses and that silly hat are as distinguishable as her crazy skunk hair.

If she really doesn't want people to know who she is, she should get herself some wigs and several sets of glasses. Hiding the head with different wigs is much more deceiving than that stupid puffy cap.

fidosmommy said...

Wow. I just got here and read about the high-speed ride along a PA road..... if that isn't something for a divorce judge to consider! If she'll drive like mad to escape the paparazzi, she'll do it with a carload of kids when she's running late (because the kids didn't have on matching shoes or she had to wait in line at Starbucks)

I sure hope somebody will testify if there is testimony to be heard
down the road... that is totally unacceptable behavior any way you slice it.

If this story is corroborated by witnesses, we've got a real problem on our hands with Kate Gosselin. Another problem, that is. Once you get away with this kind of action, it's easy to do it again and again and again. Being pissy is no excuse, Kate.

HannaBelleLechter said...

On topic: This recent incident doesn't surprise me at all.

When the melodramatic coda appeared on that episode -- I guess back in June -- to announce that Kate had filed divorce papers, my first thought was "uh-oh! She'll be sorry."

Why did I think that? Was it because I worried that she would lay awake at night worrying over her children's emotional well-being? Or was I worried that Kate would have second thoughts about throwing over her husband of almost 10 years, without even a hint of reconciliation or counseling? Well, no.

I said "uh oh" because I realized, even if Kate did not, that her days of controlling every scintilla of life, were over. And Kate's inner being needs the autonomy and stricture of being the Number 1, Large and In Charge, Family Matriarch/Dragon Boss Lady.

Just look at a couple of events, so far. We know Kate passed her edicts back BD (Before Divorce) that Jodi and Kevin, Jon's mom and brother, maybe even Nana Janet, were persona non grata. For whatever her reasons, Kate was done with them.

Flash forward to Divorce City, and what do we see? Jon running back to Wernersville to confide in Jodi and Kevin! Jon staying at his mother's house, and listening, then quoting her counsel! ("Like my mother always says, life is about the choices you make.") Jon's brother photographed at the house, playing ball and frisbee with the kids. Nana Janet photographed at the house, arriving to what? Play with or supervise the kids.

All of this activity on JonDays, when Kate is out of the picture.

How she must HATE the loss of control and power. How she must HATE strangers and "enemies" roaming through her home and grounds.

And btw, Kate has been evasive about where she spends her time when Jon has visitation. I wondered if, perhaps, she went nowhere. But, rather, stayed out of sight on the property? If so, if Jon this time said, hey, no more, get lost honey bunch, I could see her exploding. Why else go to a Day's Inn? If she had her own nest somewhere, that's where she'd escape to, no?

Anyway, this is one ugly, ugly, ugly situation for the children. When I was around 11, I was waiting for an appt with my orthodontist (I used to walk over and went alone, even at that young age). Suddenly, a woman came in, yelling and agitated, upset as anything I had ever seen. The waiting room was packed with us kids. Turns out, this woman was the doc's ex, and he was late with his alimony and child support (foreign concepts to me at the time). Their yelling went into "only dogs can hear" decibel land, and, in the end, he wrestled her to the floor and SAT on her, until the police arrived.

I remember feeling sick to my stomach. I remember the dentist taking my hand later and saying "you're trembling. your hands are like ice. I'm so sorry." I remember like it was yesterday, but it was more than 4 decades ago. And the doc and his ex were not my parents.

The Gosselin kids will never forget this shit. People are supposed to LOVE their children more than they HATE their exes. It can be done. But only if the parties are willing to expend the efforts. I don't see either Jon or Kate taking the altruistic high road. They should be ashamed.

fidosmommy said...

Commonsensical said...
I have a rather obvious question. It's 7 pm, Jon is at home with the kids - why is a babysitter needed? Why do either of them need a babysitter there, what seems like 24/7?

The children are old enough to not need constant attention and despite their wacky upbringing, they seem to be relatively bright and respectful.

Why do they need babysitters all the time?


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Um, because they don't want to have to spend time interacting with their children? They each have their own thing going on, mostly involving cell phones and
love interests du jour.

Children are such annoyances in the parents' lives, aren't they?
Of course not, but somebody needs to tell this to the Gosselin parents, obviously. Children require actual time, energy and
attention. Babies can be fed, burped, changed and put to sleep.
Older children require somebody to notice them for longer periods of time because they are awake more than they are asleep. Hence, non-parents hire non-nannies and babysitters to make their children feel wanted and loved.

We've all heard the expression that it's just easier to buy kids things than it is to spend time with them. Emotionally neglected children usually have tons of "stuff" as replacements for parental involvement.

Lux et Umbra said...

Judy, you're right, money is a large part of the equation for everyone . . . all kids aside.

Free the Gosselin 8 said...

As for the video of Kate returning to the "Kid's TV Studio/Prison" and Jon leaving ... Did anyone else notice how the dogs were barking and running around Jon's car as he drove down the driveway? I'm pretty well-versed in "dog language" so I'd be happy to translate: The dogs were desperately pleading, "PLEASE daddy, don't leave us with that crazy bitch!!!! Take us with you!!!!!"

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/08/jon-and-kate-reunite-after-heated-argument

MaryElla said...

redskiesatnight..

Perfectly said! That was all the things I wanted to say about her 'ring' sob story but didn't want to put into words!

fidosmommy said...

FeedThoseChildren! said...
Portion freak said...
...Kate is so lazy she buys sliced fruits and grapes, yogurt, juice boxes, etc and all served up on paper plates. The kids are obsessed with food, everything is doled out to them, they have no freedom whatsoever, why not make a plate of sandwiches Kate and let the kids help and feed themselves! Portion control freak.

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I agree. My mother doled out our portions in the kitchen and brought our plates to us. Of course, there was meat, vegetables,
potatoes or rice, salad and milk at dinner, soup and sandwiches, fruit and milk for lunch and eggs, toast or cereal and fruit juice for breakfast. Very well rounded meals, and prepared healthily. No fried foods, very limited junk food.

But the point is that they were portion controlled and we were expected to clean our plates. I had no training on deciding when I was full and when I wasn't. My mom said when I was full. She decided I was full when my plate was empty and not one bite more or less.

My siblings and I have had issues with food our entire adult lives. I think this was Mom-induced by her micromanaging what the family ate and not allowing us to decide how much was "enough" or "not enough".

The Gosselin children seem healthy to look at them. They are not eating a lot of junk. But the monotony of their meals and the
portion-control is going to bite them one day, sadly.

Barking Dogs I Hear You said...

Barking Dogs said...
Watching the dogs cry after, and follow Jon's car down the driveway, was heart breaking!!!!

Finally, one of the little girls starts to call the dogs back.

After raising, training and living with GSDs for over 30 years, I trust what they have to say . . . um . . . bark.
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You are right...you are so right. Those animals told the story for me. German Sheps are so smart and there was a REASON why they were acting like that...I actually stood up from the computer when I saw that, like I wanted to pound a window or something. It's just so NOT right. SO NOT RIGHT.

Eek said...

Commonsensical said:

'Why do they need babysitters all the time'

Someone needs to watch them while Kate and (more often) Jon are on their cell phones

Melanie P. said...

forgive me if this link has been posted already - I haven't read through all the wonderful comments :)

According to Radar Online, TLC is just about reading to 'divorce' Jon too!

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/08/exclusive-jon-gosselin-now-has-bad-marriage-tlc

yeah said...

Commonsensical said...
I have a rather obvious question. It's 7 pm, Jon is at home with the kids - why is a babysitter needed? Why do either of them need a babysitter there, what seems like 24/7?

The children are old enough to not need constant attention and despite their wacky upbringing, they seem to be relatively bright and respectful.

Why do they need babysitters all the time?
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the twins maybe but sorry 5 year olds still need to be supervised.

He's not coming back said...

I don't trust Kate at all. I have a sneaking suspicion that she IS trying to get back with Jon for whatever whacked out reason she has. I hope what that crazy Regis said to her the other day about them getting togerher, didn't spawn a sick idea in her mind that all of a sudden she'll see if he'll come back. Kate, give it up. Don't make it harder on the kids then it has to be.

Pathetic Parents Is Right said...

"The video on Radar Online shows Kate returning to the home after the confrontation, she gets out of her SUV, she deliberately ignores Jon with him standing in the cluster of kids, the tension is unbelievable and he drives off without so much as a word or wave between them. Talk about a heated battleground. Those poor children..."
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I had no volume control when I watched that video and it actually had more of an impact without noise because I had nothing to focus upon but the images and expressions. Kate walks right past the dogs and does her new thing to grab each kids' face for the photo op and there is only a brief exchange between Jon and Kate which seems fraught with some kind of difficulty, all in front of the little kids. Is it Joel hanging onto Daddy as usual, knowing he's going away? Jon and Kate really need to watch how they're acting in front of their impressionable, sensitive, very small children. They have no license to be selfish about it. I will go back to the famous JFK speech, "Do not ask what your kids can do for you; ask what you can do for your kids." It's a no-brainer, if you're the kind of parent you're supposed to be. This isn't a free ride, Jon and Kate; you have work to do to repair the damage you are doing to eight children who belong to you. Cut the antics; cut the crap. Grow up AND DO YOUR JOB and that does NOT mean for TLC!!!

a rose is a rose said...

I think TLC is finished. We all KNOW the real drama. Anything they try to pawn off on us is after the fact. Kate is out of control and neither TLC nor anyone else can sanitize what the papers and magazines are showing. This is no longer a family show. All that's there are two parents that cannot be in each others presence for more then a few seconds. Close it down TLC, its OVER.

Too close to the edge said...

Kate is dancing too close to the edge. If the show isn't shut down NOW, TLC will be responsible for any bad happenings to this family.
It now reminds me of those rauncy
reality shows that we quickly scan past so the kids can't see.

Skinny Kids? said...

FeedThoseChildren! said...
Portion freak said...
The Divorce judge should decree the kids are not to be put outside at the picnic table in the hot sun in view of the paparazzi or fed a constant diet of pre-packaged snack foods - Kate is so lazy she buys sliced fruits and grapes, yogurt, juice boxes, etc and all served up on paper plates. The kids are obsessed with food, everything is doled out to them, they have no freedom whatsoever, why not make a plate of sandwiches Kate and let the kids help and feed themselves! Portion control freak.
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I've been wondering about the weird un-childlike diet those kids have. Is it possible that Kate, to make it easy for her to stay on a diet, makes the kids eat ONLY what she eats? She's selfish and mean enough to do that, but that is NOT healthy for growing children. Even bacon -- nitrite-free and organic -- is a perfectly healthy thing for kids that age. They need the calories to grow.
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I remember on one of the old episodes how she said she never bought milk unless it was on sale but it seemed, on camera at least, that the kids only drink juice. When I was a sheeple, I thought it was great the kids seemed to be eating healthy food and none of them were fat, but now it seems to me like they just eat snack foods. Do they ever sit down to dinner with meat, veggies and mashed potatoes...like real, hot food? What happened to the buying part of a beef, or when she used to make soup or pancakes...guess that was all for the camera? Kate says she lives on salads, so that's not exactly cooking. Don't you imagine they have a combination nanny/cook/housekeeper behind the scenes, though? When I was a nearly full-time babysitter in summers, to where I even was taken on vacation with the family, I definitely had to prepare meals for the kids because nobody would get fed otherwise; the parents were gone for too many hours. I'd throw in laundry, do dishes, etc. during naptime. Remember, Jon and Kate are gazillionaires now; they can pay for whatever help they need. I wish they would include a good, full-time cook/grocery shopper. Come to think of it, except for the occasional photo op, it's not like you're seeing Jon or Kate out grocery shopping for a large family. SOMEBODY is doing it, unless they're ordering everything online and getting deliveries. We are only getting the part of the picture they want us to see.

Ring-Bat said...

redskiesatnight said...
Im just not getting Kate's need to continue wearing her wedding ring.

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Two words:

SHINY
and
EXPENSIVE!

I must say, I think she'd do better to have the stones reset in a more appropriate ring, but I guess she's waiting for a coupon!

anotherPAmom said...

"The Low Class Network said...
and...re: the good publicity/bad publicity debate -

i'm pretty sure tlc realizes that their golden couple is gone and that they no longer appeal to the kinds of people that used to tune into TLC for a wholesome educational TV show -- i think they're playing to the "Rock of Love" crowd now."

Say what you will about "Rock of Love" ( my daughter the physics major peeked at the first one now and then) but all of the participants are (way) over 21! They picked a reality show for themselves. . . .

Remy said...

Commonsensical said...

"Why do they need babysitters all the time?"

Easy answer. Because they can. (not to be smart-alecky)

Not only can they afford to hire mulitple "not-a-nannies" and babysitters, they have grown quite comfortable indulging in their new found wealth from Khate's regular mani and pedi visits and luxury vehicle to Jon's lavish spending spree they have handed off their parental duties. Simply put, they are having too much fun living the high life now be bothered with this rudimentary mudane thing called parenthood...unless cameras are rolling or the p-people are taking pictures. (Although, I must say that Jon is and always has been the more hands on parent out of the two.)

If you ask me Khate has to keep the ring on now because she made such a big deal out of it complete with hand ringing on the Today Show. That's the only reason she is keeping it on especially after what happened.

Now, given what happened on Thursday most right minded parents would keep their children out of sight for a while after such an ordeal. Nope. Not Khate! Here she is putting her kids on display for the all the world and the "p-people" to see. What does that tell you? It's just sickening. Sick. Sick. Sick. They have an entire backyard complete with crooked houses and swing sets for the kids play in and on. So, why can't they have a picnic in the backyard. I'll tell you why. Because after the Khategate flap and her walk of shame into the Days Inn Khate is now desparately trying to save face by using her kids to show what a good mother she is in the wake of adversity. She needs to do something to bring the attention back to herself by showing off her superb mothering skills. I am quite confident that her PR people and the TLC people advised to her lay low after Thursday. But nope not Khate. The show must go on.

J&K are quickly becoming TLC's own worst enemies even more so with Jon not TLC playing ball anymore.

On a side note - To coincide w/ TLC's push to focus on the now sinlge mom Khate has anyone else taken note of her new look? The skunky chunky highlights are gone and her coloring has been softened. And the mullet piece is now being swept back away from her face in order to open up her face and make her appear softer which is just what the PR person notated on a GWoP feature a few weeks back.

just wondering said...

alsoamomtotwins said...
There is no way TLC set up, conspired or approved the Kate-Jon-Police scene.

There is no chance that they want their "stars" in any way associated with the police.

Now Kate may have had a different plan but I'm sure it wasn't approved by TLC.
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I guess Steve must have had the night off?

I seriously doubt that TLC will ever leave Kate unsupervised again. The bodyguard is obviously assigned to protect Kate from herself!

fidosmommy said...

And btw, Kate has been evasive about where she spends her time when Jon has visitation. I wondered if, perhaps, she went nowhere. But, rather, stayed out of sight on the property? If so, if Jon this time said, hey, no more, get lost honey bunch, I could see her exploding. Why else go to a Day's Inn? If she had her own nest somewhere, that's where she'd escape to, no?


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You had a very poignant post, but I still can't help asking .....

Are you suggesting Kate has been staying in the Crooked Houses, and the reason she wanted them close to the house was so she could sneak up to the mansion and peek in the windows?

;0)


On a serious note, I'm very sorry you had to witness that very scary
encounter at the orthodontist's office. That was just one incident that shows what truly unhappy and control hungry people will do to each other. Children are too often the sideline victims.

NN said...

Unbelievable. No..wait..totally believable. I have absolutely no doubt that we will soon find Katie Irene wandering down a byway in PA screeching incoherantly with bare feet and a white chair stuck to her ass. Sucks to have put yourself out there like that- hope it all ends up being worth it in the end.
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Lordy Bee, thanks for the laugh and I really needed one tonight too! I can't seem to get the mental image of that out of my mind now...soooo funny!

fidosmommy said...

On the Today Show interview, it was back to its old style, brown and blond stripes, hanging over her
right eye. The "softer look" was
a flash in the pan. Probably not enough "attitude".

MirandaB2008 said...

I found it completely bizarre that in one of her ' interviews' she states that she has to 'explain to the children why P-People are following them with cameras'... ermm WHY!!?? those children have had cameras stuck in their faces since the day they were very small babies!! Why would they even question it as ' different' or peculiar' to have cameras now?
only that the cameras are further away and not a few feet from their faces or over their heads, *sigh* ...
and she also says " how strange it is hearing a 5-year old saying ' they are paprazzi' .... yes well KAte! where did they hear that word from........ YOU!!..... why is that a wonder then?? ...
it's gotten so I can't even stomach the words that she allows to fall from her mouth.
Is she going to be able to keep her ' stories' all straight from all the lies she is telling on these Interviews?
She doesn't know ' when Jon moved out' ...... his actions don't affect her? only " the children" .....
and how many more times do we have to hear about " we have competely different goals now' ....
yes....... Kate's goal is to reap as much money from the children's existance as she can........ and Jon's Goal is to keep on spending it.

Chris said...

Yeah,

5 year olds can be watched by 1 parent. I have a 5 year old daughter and she will have 3-4 friends over and I can be preparing dinner as the play in the family room (It is a great room so I can see them). I also have older kids who have friends over at the same time so a total of 8 is not unusual. Most of the time I bring out a game for the 5 year olds to play, and I help them start out the game/activity and then they play just fine. Of course I get asked questions or for help sometimes but nothing 1 parent can't handle.

I always walk my daughter to school but plenty of kindergarten students walk alone, or in groups without parents to school. Kindergarten students take the bus themselves, no aides, walk off the bus and go to the playground and then when the bell rings go to class. Sure there are adults in the playground but not hovering over them or assiting them unless they ask.

Even with Jon/Kate on the phone alot, havng 6 five years old palying in the basement playroom should not require a babysitter. If a child needs specfic attention then they need to get off the phone.

I think the poor tups are being held back and expect and need lots of people taking care of things they could do themselves. they seem to accept that things will be done for them. Can anyone imagine anyone of the tups being put on a school bus , and go to the school and do everything unassisted by helpers? I think they would breakdown which is so sad because it is not their fault that they always seem to have helpers for everything.

Instead of a babysitter, at least hire a preschool teacher to read books, play games and help them progress instead of regress. My daughter did a camp in the summer with the zoo-phonics songs and she had so much fun and she left reading and she is the same age as the tups.

Not a fan of either said...

I just saw on Showbiz Tonight that Kate is ripping Jon apart in the upcoming People magazine coming out next week. She apparently is saying some pretty nasty things about him if Showbiz is to be believed. What happened to "we're going to handle this privately." So TLC is going to allow Kate to say whatever she pleases, but they stopped Jon's interview on E. BTW. Everyone on Showbiz sided with poor, dear Kate.

nanasez said...

I have a rather obvious question. It's 7 pm, Jon is at home with the kids - why is a babysitter needed? Why do either of them need a babysitter there, what seems like 24/7?

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In the video, Jon said something about needing someone to watch the kids while he filmed interviews for the show. Now, I don't know if he meant that's why he had Stephanie there, or if he was using that as en example of why he sometimes needs "additional" babysitting.

Now, I would have thought that the full time nanny could have watched them, but maybe she's not a live-in. Perhaps she was gone to her own home by 7 p.m.

From watching the video of the changing of the guard, what made me sadder than the dogs barking for Jon as he left was the fact that not one of his kids seemed to care that he was leaving. It was like only the dogs even noticed. And the one child who looked up after the car...though she may have been more interested in the dogs than dad leaving.

At one time, he was the more involved of the parents. Now, he seems so disengaged that his kids don't even bat an eyelash when he leaves.

Sidney said...

The Low Class Network said...
and...re: the good publicity/bad publicity debate -

i'm pretty sure tlc realizes that their golden couple is gone and that they no longer appeal to the kinds of people that used to tune into TLC for a wholesome educational TV show -- i think they're playing to the "Rock of Love" crowd now.

8/15/2009 5:09 PM

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I hope you are right, but I don't think TLC gives a hoot what that family goes through. Ms O'Neill cares only about "high numbers."

This legal crap may well bring in more high numbers, and IT IS all about high numbers.

Bonnie said...

Why didn't Kate know when Jon left the house?

Well, she was gone so much of the time herself that she didn't even know when he was gone.

The nanny is the only constant, obviously. The nanny runs the household. Occasionally even the nanny needs help -- hence, the babysitters.

Jenny Lee said...

I've watched some of the candid interviews of Jon and the paps.... and even tho I strongly disapprove of what he's doing with all these women....I gotta say, he really comes off as a very down-to-earth nice guy.

maybe that's what attracts these women to him.

they likely saw him for 5 seasons getting bashed and degraded and belittled by hate-kate that they really felt sorry for him.

i know that happens for some folks.
heck...I feel sorry for him.

Again, even tho I think he's gone a little overboard with the women thing...I am going to remember all those times when he took all that CRAP from hate-hate and did NOT retaliate in the least.

The main thing I do not like is that everyone went along with TLC BIG, BIG LIES for sooooo long.
(ie: covering up the smoking thing -- how is that the "realest of the real"? bullsh*t hate-kate!!)

I have such loathing for TLC, I will never watch them again.... ever!

Jayley said...

Money IS the root of all evil. This show is a case in point. Once Khates bank balance got high enough she didn't NEED Jon anymore. Khate got rid of Jon, like others in her life, when she could afford to have them replaced. Typical control freak. The only people in her life now are people paid to hang out with her. What a sad lonely life. What a shame that she doen't realize or care. Still not jealous sheeples.

MyLittleCat said...

I think this is the picture people here are speaking about. Kate looks like she's yelling at Jon, saying something about herself (by the way she's touching her chest). The boy tup is holding on to Jon's leg looking at Kate like "please leave my daddy alone..."

http://gosselins.sosugary.com/displayimage.php?album=178&pos=1

Just my thoughts...

AnnieHan said...

The cops being called might not have been a PR stunt, but the paps were definitely tipped off to Kate's location at the Hotel.

I watched the video again a few times, and this is what I noticed:

1. at the end, one of the paps says "we got a call saying the cops were called to your house". So the paps WERE NOT there. So how could they have followed her to the hotel?
2. the beginning of the video shows (multiple) paps outside of her SVU, while she sits in the middle of the parking lot. So were they there BEFORE her??

Sure, it's possible they were 'tipped off' that they cops were called to the house by somebody with a police scanner - - and then they followed her to the hotel. (doubtful)

It's a twisted circle of need and greed here. J&K need the paps to keep 'interest' and photos of them out there, and the paps make money off those photos. It's pretty widely known that the paps do make deal with celebs - the paps agree to not take 'unflattering' pics of the celebs, and the celeb agrees to be 'caught' walking into a grocery store (or whatever) 'just like us'.
So actually, in the unlikely event the paps were at the house, they probably wouldn't have published the pics. Then the gravy train of photo opps of the 'loving mother' with her kids in the front house would come to a screeching halt.

Sick.Sick.Sick.

Yet again, the kids are just pawns at their parents quest for fame and fortune.

Organic Lollipops: I Understand! said...

I am done as a commenter. I think my work here is done, lol (but not lol). I came into this as a concerned Law Guardian and I think that GWoP has done a lot of good. That charade would still be marching along if it weren't for GWoP. But I am so worried that someone's going to really go off the deep end and I'm not going to fan the flames any more.
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Organic Lollipops: While you were here, your comments were very appreciated; I read them from early on. Thanks for your observations along the way.

Kate, The Feminist? said...

HannaBelleLechter said (about feminists), in another of her stirring, spot-on comments:

"...And don't get me started on the sexual harassment, the pawing and manhandling, to outright physical attacks. I lived through those, as did so many of my work-sisters. I think Kate Gosselin is a manipulative, scheming opportunist. She's quite cutthroat too. I hate -- HATE -- the unrelenting way she has thrust her children into the limelight and into an emotional-harm's way in her almost manic desire for fame and fortune. I will not, however, allow her pathologies to represent -- or misrepresent -- the noble idea of feminism, and to bring that noble idea down into the gutter of caricature."
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Wow. Just wow, Hanna. I'm of your era. I've been there. Younger women today have no idea what some of us went through in the workplace...or just in male-dominated "life" in general. Not to endorse a slogan that came from the cigarette-crazed time, also from those years, but we've "come a long way, baby."

Tuesday said...

Hanna, We HAVE come a long way baby! Twenty, or even thirty something women will never know. Equal Rights Ammendment anyone?, (it wasn't all that long ago). Nice post.

One Good Sentence Says It said...

HannaBelleLechter: "People are supposed to LOVE their children more than they HATE their exes."
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And wouldn't you think that would just come naturally for most people, huh! But "most people" are not Jon and Kate. (Somehow, though, I don't think Jon hates Kate; he's just sticking to his guns.)

Unbelievable said...

PaLisa said...

So disgusted said...

The Gosselin 8's story is even more tragic and absurd when you read and hear of the Stansel family in Houston. Two of their 6 newborns passed within a few days, and now 11 days in, ALL of the 4 remaining babies are struggling on with severe brain hemmorrages, grade 1-4. As many people who have had preemies know, Grade 3/4 typically leave you with damage, even if they clear. God help them! And why should we care about these extremely fortunate and blessed fools who cannot recognize the bullets they have dodged?!?! THey pay lip service to their gratitude, but their actions speak volumes. Actions speak louder than words. Period.
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I do believe they counted on making money off those kids. They are fools. You would think since she was a diabetic, already had 2 miscarriages (with only 1 baby) They would have done all they could to try and just carry 1 healthy baby instead of a litter. I tell you this is getting more and more disgusting. They are looking for handouts and her husband stated that who are we to judge? We are the same people you expect to pay for your foolishness. Kate Gosselin be damned for starting all this nonsense. There is a special place in hell just for her

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Wow. Such compassion for people who have just lost two children and have four fighting for their lives. I hope you will refrain from sharing your comments directly with the Stansels. I think they have enough to deal with.

JTN said...

Paparazzi make their money off of photos. The kids are cute, but they aren't so cute that paparazzi can live off "see the kids and Kate go to the store" shots indefinitely. They only show up and take pictures in bfe locations like Wernersville outside a residential house if someone is putting on a show that puts food on THEIR tables.
If you don't want them around, BE BORING. Don't fight in public, don't talk in public, don't hold hands with dates in public, don't feed the frenzy. And for God's sake, don't throw a hissy fit that results in the police being called.

Why do you think Britney Spears was being harassed as badly as she was a couple years back? The paparazzi knew if they pushed her, they got money shots... meaning THEIR mortgage payments, car payments, etc.
Plenty of major celebrities aren't in tabloids because they are boring and they leave them alone.

I really worry about the emotional well-being of children when their parents think its okay to air their problems in public to bait paparazzi to extend their 15 minutes. It's almost like a show business version of munchausen syndrome.

outwest said...

Maybe we all are pawns in a new Tv-internet genre. A gigantic "Truman Show" type deal where the show and the internet blogs collide. All the bloggers influence scripting. Advertisers cash in on items highlighted by the P-people. The magazines, internet, and show are one gigantic money making machine with-t he not-so-bright and now indentured servants, Jon and Kate, puppets of the whole thing. They are isolated and seem to be surrounded by "handlers" and such to influence them...think Truman Show. What do you all think?

Sugarpop said...

I saw the People cover tonight with Kate's quote, "I cry all the time." Nice job trying to recover from the "I cried for half a day and moved on" quote that Kate said on the show! There's no question the PR people are trying to dispute every criticism anyone has of Kate!

Sugarpop said...

Kate would only want the Right of First Refusal clause written in to her advantage - otherwise she can't keep Jon from having time with the kids when she's gone, which is what I had heard she has said - that he cannot be with the kids during "her" time even if she is gone herself.

At least in my case, I had no say whatsoever in who my ex could leave the kids with or have around them.

Yolanda said...

Regarding Kate and today's picnic with the kids - it's so bizarre to have the table set up in front of the garage. I know it's been said before, but I just can't for the life of me figure out how it makes sense to have an outdoor picnic table set up in front of the garage (especially given all the room they have in the backyard).

Can someone clarify the custody arrangements for me. What days of the week are her days? I was just wondering if she was off giving interviews on HER days with the kids, or is she careful to schedule her travel time so she is home with them?

marypoppins said...

Bonnie said...The main thing I do not like is that everyone went along with TLC BIG, BIG LIES for sooooo long.
(ie: covering up the smoking thing -- how is that the "realest of the real"? bullsh*t hate-kate!!)

I have such loathing for TLC, I will never watch them again.... ever!
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Mkes you wonder how scripted all the other TLC shows are.

Is that Cake Boss guy doing the cakes or does an assistant start and then he just finsished for the camera.( I know he is a good and real decorator).

Are all the rush /last minute cakes really rush job or are they all staged for some drama


DiD they really all want to go to the gym or did TLC make them do that because fans said they wanted to see that

Michelle said...

The Days Inn drama was to prove there wasn't a condo in Maryland. It's all a ploy to garner more sympathy for someone who can't stand the very people who give her all that she has.

what a witch.

cindyluu said...

I watched the Today show interview, Kate said "um" exactly 65 times just in the first interview, I counted. I didnt watch the 2nd half of the interview, got bored.

Declaw Kate said...

Anyone want to bet that the Drama at the Cage Door was fueled by TLC. Bet Kate wanted to know what happened during filming and the voiced concerns over the unapproved nanny type thing.
So glad I canceled this manipulative channel.

Tetotomom said...

Naneze said: At one time, he was the more involved of the parents. Now, he seems so disengaged that his kids don't even bat an eyelash when he leaves.
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There was one of the boy tups and one girl in different shots who watched him drive away and looked very forlorn. I wonder where all the other kids like Cara and the other tup girl were when she came home. Cara seems to favor her Daddy so maybe she said her good byes inside away from public view.

Stop the freak show now said...

If Jon were smart (very debatable) he would sue TLC and Kate for every penny they are worth for destroying his marriage for profit!

If he were a smart man he would ask a judge to strip Kate of all parental rights and take the law suit settlement (I think the man has a case)and move himself and his 8 children to an undisclosed location and let them grow up in peace.

Kate has got to be the most trashy, despicable fame whore on the planet. The woman has gone beyond absurd to being downright vile and evil.

The TLC execs, crew members, and staff are mind numbed greed bots!

Anyone who receives a paycheck in ANY capacity off of the show is guilty of child exploitation!

All the camera and production crew who are, or have been associated with this cesspool of a show are disgusting opportunist!

WhoDidWhatFirst said...

Melissa said...
My boyfriend lives just outside Wernersville, PA. Every time I visit, I kid you not, I see at least one or two camera vans or photographers stalking the malls or grocery stores. It's a sickness. I don't even live there and I'm ready to throw up over it. I talked to some locals, and half of them want J+K removed from the township.
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Melissa,

I am a local and don't ever see any
evidence of paps even though I shop at all of the venues that Kate frequents. I think most locals around here agree that the paps are given a definite schedule for Kate beforehand. The only thing we question is who it is that tips them off. My money is on Kate.

Slainte said...

I know the front yard thing is a dead horse. but moving the picnic table there when there is a perfectly good one in back in private? Idiot. I never thought there would be anything worse than the hair until she brought out the hats.

Kate is not great said...

Both parents should be honest about what they get paid to spill to the media. Jon never came across as authentic when he talked about God or religion, you could tell that was a story line fed to him to boost ratings, and Kate, everytime she lies she prefaces it with "honestly...". She won't say when Jon moved out because that was in January and they had all those shows in between where it appeared they were still together. Kate is very careful about keeping up the appearances and the lies. Kate is doing the most damage to the kids right now,she begs them to love her and take care of, she points out Daddy's absences and failings, she fawns over them to make up for her own insecurities, with daddy they have family and dogs and friends and fun, with Kate they have structured filmed activities.

Oh, The Momma said...

Ok just a couple of things to comment on.

First - I am an all day coffee drinker. I love coffee, drink it black, and usually take a cup 'on the go' with me. I am NOT an alcohol drinker and have been amazed to read how many people posting here would believe me to be a 'functioning alcoholic' if pictures of me were being taken everyday because I would probably have my coffee with me in most of them. Just saying!

Second - I think Jon has screwed himself if the custody arrangements change and it doesn't work out for him to split his time with the kids AT the McMansion (and after him having sleepovers with women & the recent deterioration between he and kate and the local police- i think there's reason to believe that a judge wouldn't be to favorable?). With his tiny place in NY -- he has no room to have the kids go to him for 'his time' so I wonder what he'd do?

Anna said...

Not a fan of either said...
I just saw on Showbiz Tonight that Kate is ripping Jon apart in the upcoming People magazine coming out next week. She apparently is saying some pretty nasty things about him if Showbiz is to be believed. What happened to "we're going to handle this privately." So TLC is going to allow Kate to say whatever she pleases, but they stopped Jon's interview on E. BTW. Everyone on Showbiz sided with poor, dear Kate.


Not a Kate fan but Jon broke the media ban first giving the interview in US Weekly or whatever. And he hasn't hesitated to talk to Radar on Line - don't forget he trashed Jodi and Kevin before Kate did.

The Low Class Network said...

Hannabell - your post was awesome!!

I mentioned Rock of Love because there is absolutely nothing wholesome or educational about the show - unless you're interested in finding out how to contract STD's and give yourself alcohol poisoning. An adult has every right to tune into a show like this, but it's not something that I'd want my underage kids watching. I agree that the participants have every right to exploit themselves because they are adults. I think Jon and Kate are doing the same thing, but not only to themselves but to their 8 underage children. I also mentioned it because there are two women (both grown with children) who come in every Tuesday morning and discuss Jon and Kate - along with every morning after something sensational comes out about them - they talk about how she's so brave and how Jon is a pig for leaving her with all those kids to raise alone...it takes every ounce of my willpower not to POUNCE on them and set them straight - and believe me - I would, but they're just not that bright. These are also the same women who discuss soap opera plots ad nauseum and behave as if they're real people making these crazy decisions and the same people who used to discuss Rock of Love the next morning - how Bret should have chosen so and so - they don't like this girl because they don't think she'll be able to handle life on the road...blah blah blah. Even then I wanted to let them in on the little secret that most reality shows (especially ones like Rock of Love) in no way reflect REALITY for anyone...Bret Michaels isn't really lookoing for love on a TV show - he's pretending to so he can cash those checks from VH1 and Kate Gosselin isn't "doing it all alone" - she's pretending to so she can keep cashing checks from TLC. - my point is that TLC is playing to a crowd just like the 2 ladies from my office - those gullable enough to think that it's really reality.

Jujubeoh said...

I have a few comments:

(1) Why is everything done in the front yard so all can see? If they insist on hanging, playing, & eating in the front, why not put up privacy fences to keep the "P" people out?

(2) Has anyone ever commented or thought about the diamond necklace Khate wears every day? I've always wondered if this is a gift from Steve... kind of like a "promise" ring.

(3) I've always been a Jon supporter. I do agree with others that he appears to be going overboard regarding his partying and womanizing. However, I really think he needs some serious help. He's basically "Looking for love in all the wrong places." I wish his family would come to his aid and get him the help he needs. He's been abused for 10+ years, and it will take some time to get over this.

Thanks for letting me vent!

An Observation said...

One thing I've noticed in the pictures...Khate grabs the kids' faces and bends over to kiss them (photo op) keeping a good bit of distance between her body and theirs. Jon on the other hand hugs them close to him as a parent should. Is it any mystery why they cling to Jon? With all his faults he still shows himself to be the more loving parent.

Roberta said...

maybe that's what attracts these women to him.

they likely saw him for 5 seasons getting bashed and degraded and belittled by hate-kate that they really felt sorry for him.


I politely disagree. One thing all three (Hailey, Kate M., and Stephanie) have in common is they are very aggressive and ambitious. They see an immature guy, a slave to his urges and thus easily controlled, with money and media attention. They're "attracted" to him like hungry cats are "attracted" to a fat mouse.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Just a quick thanks to HannahBelleLechter for such an articulate post re: femininism! And, for whatever it's worth, I think you've nailed K8's personality. Well done, HannahBelle!!!

Aunt Chris said...

I think the Days Inn shots were set up so people could say "Look, Kate stays at a local, low cost hotel when it's not her turn with the kids. Jon runs off to a fancy NYC condo." More bull crap.

Enough Already said...

Stop the freak show now said...

If Jon were smart (very debatable) he would sue TLC and Kate for every penny they are worth for destroying his marriage for profit!

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You have got to be kidding me. Jon was and is a willing partner. Have you not seem him spending the $ he earned from the show on cars, high-end NYC apartments, etc.?

Mamato3lilmonkeys said...

I think that Kate has made me a better mother.

I began watching because I was amazed with their ability to cope with the twins and 6 babies in the first special. I continued watching because I appreciated Kate's honesty and thought it was neat to get to peak into someone else's life.

But, as the show progressed I became less amazed with their ability to cope and more appalled by the apparent lack of ability to make real changes in themselves, their parenting and their marriage. I used to joke that I was always much nicer to my own husband after watching the show. But, in fact I really was nicer and more aware of my own behavior.

What I can't understand is why Kate and Jon haven't taken this opportunity to treat each other and their children better.

I'm not perfect either, like Kate always says, but I do evaluate my behavior, action and choices and make changes when I see that I'm not doing as well or as much as I want.

I truly wish for this family that the parents would do this. Maybe if they were honest with themselves and each other they could see why continuing this show is flat out abusive at this point. Maybe they could at least learn to treat each other well as co-parents since they didn't do that as married partners.

But, regardless, I choose to learn from their mistakes and make better choices for myself and my family.

I choose to respect my children as individuals. I choose to put my families needs before my wants. I choose to be more patient with my kids and to try to find parenting methods that do not involves threats or yelling. I choose to treat my husband with respect and dignity. I choose to not allow myself to play the martyr and to acknowledge all the he does-even when its not what I want or how I would do it. I choose to let my children enjoy all the wonder of childhood, and worry about the mess later. I choose to spend more time actively engaging with my children rather then allowing everything else to distract me; everything else can wait-my kids are only awake so much of the day and are only children for a few years.

So, thank you TLC and Kate and Jon for making me a better wife and mother-if only by setting a bad example of both.

Jen K said...

Kate Gosselin as the feminist ideal? Her sum total of "success" comes not from her own accomplishments and hard work but by forcing her husband and children to perform for the camera.

The only "success" anyone can realistically claim she has attained is financial. But the way they are spending money foolishly, I would say that is fleeting "success" at best with costs far greater than monetary.

Kate has set feminism back, in my opinion. Instead of the notion of creating ones own version of "having it all" (which varies from woman to woman) she has tried to foist an "ideal" that you don't really have to be accomplished, educated or bright at all if your only goal is money at any cost.

Just set aside your morals, dignity and ideals for a reality show. Brilliant.

I'd Talk Forever said...

I am a local and don't ever see any
evidence of paps even though I shop at all of the venues that Kate frequents. I think most locals around here agree that the paps are given a definite schedule for Kate beforehand. The only thing we question is who it is that tips them off. My money is on Kate.

Wasn't it reported that when one of the paps was asked why they kept following Kate and didn't just back off, that the reply was that SHE was the one who called them -- she told them when she was leaving and where she was going?

Kiki said...

Sugarpop said...
I saw the People cover tonight with Kate's quote, "I cry all the time."
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Kate has already replaced Jon with a new man so we know she's not crying over a lack of affection. She's crying because her carefully crafted lie has been exposed and her money-making venture, built on family values, bullying a stupid husband and child exploitation, is about to implode.

Kate is headed back to obscurity and she knows it. She can hire all the PR people she wants and it won't change a thing.

qtrfan said...

A comment was made wondering how scripted the other TLC shows are, particularly The Cake Boss. I would guess they are.

I liked Cake Boss until the episode where the unhappy bride messed up her wedding cake with frosting.

The acting was SO BAD that there was no doubt it was scripted.

I quit that show then.

Since Ace of Cakes went over to the Kate "dark side", I only have Amazing Wedding Cakes left!

TUNDRA said...

What's up with Radar? Are they pro Kate or something? Someone (Beach Mom) posted a link to Paul Peterson on Facebook who mentions RADAR in one of his posts. Next thing I know, all Beach Mom's posts gone. Lot of posts trashing Jon though. I don't get it. Can someone clue me in?

Maxwell said...

Snipped from "People"

Tears are something Kate is getting used to: In this week's PEOPLE the now single mother says, "I cry all the time, in numerous airports, in airplanes."

She'd rather not have her emotional life be so public, but she says, "It's not like I can put the tears on hold. So I try to cry very incognito, behind my sunglasses. And after those tears, there's always the feeling of, 'how did I get here?' "


Gee Kate, I wonder.....

Debi said...

It still baffles the mind that people can become "celebrities" for doing nothing more than being on T.V. They have no talent...but the talent of self-promotion.

AtlGA said...

This woman really needs to get off TV and get her life together. She needs parenting skills. No wonder her spouse got the heck out of there.

These people are crooks. They took money/trips/products from people and lied about the state of their marriage. They remind me of the PTL Bakers.

my9cats said...

Jayley said...
Money IS the root of all evil. This show is a case in point. Once Khates bank balance got high enough she didn't NEED Jon anymore. Khate got rid of Jon, like others in her life, when she could afford to have them replaced. Typical control freak. The only people in her life now are people paid to hang out with her. What a sad lonely life. What a shame that she doen't realize or care. Still not jealous sheeples.

8/15/2009 9:32 PM

IIRC, the actual phrase is, "The LOVE of money is the root of all evil".
This would certainly apply to KON.

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