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Kate Stinks! said...

Can I be the first post? Please? lol

Glo said...

From Jon's Radar interview:

"Kate and I's number one priority are our kids."

Nine words - two grammatical errors. This guy's a genius.

1) I's????? 2) "# one priority are"....??? A priority is a singular, not a plural.

This is appalling. Uneducated people who butcher the English language don't belong on TV where they have the power to pollute the language skills of others.

Carezee said...

Okay here's a thought. After reading the article on Jon where he is dissing Jodi and Kevin, I was thinking. Do you think that this whole thing with Jon and Kate is a sham. Do you think it was just a way to get two shows and double the money? Think about it. He wants to get a show of his own. If they are still really together that would be double the money for them She would have her Kate can do show and he could have his what ever show. I am not sure what he is going for . Anyway I use to think poor Jon, but after reading that interview I think he is just as bad if not worse than Kate. I can't believe how he used Jodi and Kevin with his whole story about the break up and contract and now is talking about how they don't know what they are talking about. Really? Really? He makes me so sick. The show is work for him and Kate but fun for the kids? Probably because they only get attention when the camera people are around. That is so sad. I hope those two are really proud of themselves. I don't know how they can sleep at night.

One more thing. What about the letter to the churches that want them to speak? Could you ask for anymore. All in the name of God. That is pathetic.

Used to be a sheeple said...

Did anyone hear Jon say today in the radar interview when speaking about his own family "I guess they just have class?" !

I can see the apple did then fall far from the tree!

lagne said...

I'd be thrilled to pieces if poor grammar was Jon Gosselin's biggest flaw. Just be a decent father and respectful ex-husband, and you can mangle the English language all you like.

itcouldhappen said...

So Jon "runs into" one pap (since when have you ever seen only one by himself) who doesn't ask a single question about the girlfriends but grills him on child labor practices? This whole interview is either a TLC or a PR set-up from the first word.

Kate stinks! said...

It really breaks my heart to think that the Gosselin children go to bed without mommy and daddy BOTH giving them kisses and hugs before closing their eyes at night. When your a child all you want is for mommy and daddy to make you feel safe and loved. All those kids feel right now are feelings of abandonment and insecurity. The parents should be stripped of all parenting rights.

p.s. thanks for letting me be the first poster, it's feels really cool!

Calgary7 said...

Congratulations to the mods and all the commenters --

I have been travelling so I was ecstatic to see the stats on GWOPs home page was over 7.5 million.

That is almost THREE TIMES the number of viewers of last episode of JK+8.

Congratulations!! You can make a difference

TUNDRA said...

Anyone think it's odd that no one on Jon's side of the family has come forward to defend him against allegations he is exploiting his children or at the very least, allowing them to be exploited by TLC? Do any of the Gosselin grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, have a relationship with the children? I know Dr. Gosselin passed away not long ago but Jon comes from a rather large family. Why is it only Kevin and Jodi who have gone public with their concerns? Are they the only two out of both sides of the family who have bonded with the Gosselin 8? If so, that is really a shame. These kids can use all the love and support they can get. Not just from family, but friends and neighbors, former caregivers, etc. Bonding with the film crew is a far cry from having a normal life. While I'm sure the crew are nice people, has Jon forgotten these people are "working"? That they get paid to do a job, albeit far less than Jon and Kate make playing parents on a reality tv show.

alexis said...

@Carezee
E!online just had an arti cle questioning whether this whole thing was a sham... interesting!:
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b137043_what_jon_kate_were_fakingmdasheverything.html

Predictions, Polls And Pondering said...

alexis said...
@Carezee
E!online just had an article questioning whether this whole thing was a sham... interesting!
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I just saw that, too...although, darn, now they can count my click. But it's a catchy tag line about the sham factor, "We've got a theory: Anything that seems too bad to be true probably is." And then they show a timeline. Hmmm. A bit of tongue-in-cheek but are they on to something? It's sure been mentioned here on GWoP from time to time, although I've thought it farfetched.

I did risk a click on US WEEKLY's site to vote in the informal poll as to whether or not I will watch on Aug 3; votes were running overwhelmingly out of favor for Jon and Kate, something like 80% saying they won't watch, and there were a lot of votes, like over 100,000 I think.

Nick said...

Jodie and Kevin are brave to speak up. You know for sure people will smear their names. Especially TLC people and PR staff working for Jon or Kate, they will do any thing to destroy Jodie and Kevin. They have been accused them as attention seekers.

It's not just TLC people protecting Jon and Kate. Jon and Kate are also managed by Media Motion International in Los Angeles. They will do anything to spin for Jon and Kate.

By the way, aunt Jodie looks very pretty with her straight hair. I hope Kevin and Jodie stay strong.

Merry/OCNJ said...

Have been Gosselin free for 4 months now.Love coming here and getting my updates,but why is this taking so long.Why are they still on the air.TPT(Trailor Park Trash)with money will be their next show and TLC will produce it.

grannyoftwo said...

Glo...I have heard Kate and Jon on numerous occasions butcher the English language. Either they missed out on most of their English classes or they just ARE that dumb! Mind you, I make mistakes also, but they do it every time they speak, so it is not just making mistakes for them, it is their way of speaking,normally. The children will grow up the same way, unfortunately.

kate is a cocky bitch said...

Just watched Jon's stupid video on Radar. He sounds like such a little wimp (not the word I want to use, but I figured I'd clean it up). It's so obvious that the reason why he's crying about Kevin and Aunt Jodi now is because he's worried that the gravy train might stop. Another thing that I find rather curious, why is Jon upset about Kevin and Aunt Jodi speaking out, yet he welcomes the paparazzi who camp outside his home? Something is very wrong here.

ManicNarcissism said...

itcouldhappen said...

So Jon "runs into" one pap (since when have you ever seen only one by himself) who doesn't ask a single question about the girlfriends but grills him on child labor practices? This whole interview is either a TLC or a PR set-up from the first word.


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ABSOLUTELY!!!

It is like the parody done on Kate. Ask me how I'm doing!! So set up. Like Jodi and Kevin asking for a boycott is what would sell tab mags?? Um, how about, who are you really dating Jon?

ManicNarcissism said...

Kate stinks! said...

It really breaks my heart to think that the Gosselin children go to bed without mommy and daddy BOTH giving them kisses and hugs before closing their eyes at night.

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Even though it is sad, that is reality for over 50% of the kids out there. I'm not trying to discount your concern, but people do get divorced, and when that happens you do not get your mom and dad at the same time anymore. Just the way it is. I don't fault J&K for that. But, I think they could be doing a whole lot more for the kids through this, starting with taking the cameras out of their lives. Next, both staying active in their lives, and living near by. And I don't like this whole mom and dad leave thing. I know some are saying it is best for the kids and I know logistically it would be a nightmare but I am not sure it creates stability with the parents moving in and out. I think Kate should have stayed at the Konpound and Jon should have moved back to the E-Town house and the kids go back and forth like they do most other places in the world.

Organic Lollipops said...

That e online link didn't work for me- here it is again:

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b137043_what_jon_kate_were_fakingmdasheverything.html

Seems a little farfetched.....

logical said...

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b137043_what_jon_kate_were_fakingmdasheverything.html

I will say it again I still think this is all a ratings ploy....

DrG said...

It appears to me that Jon and Kate are laughing all the way to the bank.

We have no idea what Jon and Kate have in their hearts and minds.

We have no idea what happens behind closed doors.

The ONLY thing that we truly know is that there are 8 children who are earning a living for their family (even if Jon and Kate say that they are not working).

The ONLY thing to focus on (as Jodi and Kevin appear to have concluded) is whether any laws are being broken, or if new laws need to be enacted).

Any other discussion or focus takes away from the true nature of the problem.

Let's keep P. T. Barnum's famous statement in mind about a sucker being born every minute, and let's not fall into the the trap of believing anything that Jon and Kate might be trying to put over on us.

Let's discuss how Jon and Kate can be held accountable for their actions with regard to their children, and how these children (and all children in the entertainment industry) can have their rights safeguarded.

lifeoriley said...

Jon lying about Jodi and Kevin sickens me. Didn't he go to Jodi and Kevin to talk about Kate cheating and the "contract"?? If they were never that close, why did he go to them, then?
They stated on the show (Kate did, anyway) that they moved to E-town to be closer to Jodi and Kevin. Jodi babysat the tups every Friday as well as other times when the G's had things to do.
Kevin helped with the garage shelf building and building the wooden stands for the tups 3rd birthday, too.
Of course they have not been close lately--even Jon and Kate have not been "close" to each other lately!
If the kids are just "living life" and not working--then Jon and Kate shouldn't be getting paid, either, no?
He's rationalizing to the point of absurdity.

Jacelynn said...

I like seeing that people are finally realizing that Jon isn't all the thought he is......It must be how the majority here felt when Kate's sham was semi-exposed.

I think Jon and Kate may be doing this for ratings, I do think they are no longer together but that they could be blowing things out of proportion for money.....they have no self worth and don't care about their kids so why not act like total morons?

I think both Jon and Kate need to get their lives together and salvage the children's before its too late.

goawayJandK said...

So Jon "runs into" one pap (since when have you ever seen only one by himself) who doesn't ask a single question about the girlfriends but grills him on child labor practices? This whole interview is either a TLC or a PR set-up from the first word.


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I thought the exact same thing. Just ONE p-person happens to be around Jon and he gets to ask a ton of questions ?!?! Yeah, ok.

stats said...

I think the stats on here might be misleading, as a majority of people pay multiple visits to this site.

Unfortunately, regardless of how successful this website it, J&K+8 still has massive appeal and they will continue to film and continue to air new episodes.

It's a SCAM! said...

Just read the eonline article. It is exactly what I have been saying since the beginning! These two are grifters who will do anything for money. Divorce filings can be pulled at any time in the process. DON'T WATCH!!!

Sugarpop said...

Carazee:

I do think it's a possibility. It has become clear that neither Kate nor Jon are good parents or even good people for that matter. The whole situation is so horrible. That Blind Gossip item a while back saying they had carefully planned things to create drama, alternating angered outrage with sympathetic responses seems to be right on the money. That's EXACTLY what has happened. Now just to wait and see who their "new character" is going to be...

goawayJandK said...

Anyone think it's odd that no one on Jon's side of the family has come forward to defend him against allegations he is exploiting his children or at the very least, allowing them to be exploited by TLC?

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Actually, it think it speaks VOLUMES that nobody has stepped up to defend Jon or K8.

I also think that Jodi and Kevin were the only family members who saw on a semi-regular basis what the kids REALLY go through to film the episodes- to me that is why I give them the most credibility and believe what they say.



Jon and K8 are just awful, horrible people.

Glenda said...

If Jon and Kate think they can carry two shows by themselves they are seriously delusional. Everytime I see that 'Can do' attitude commercial I just want to scream 'No one cares Kate!!' I think people will watch this week out of curiosity then it will fade away.
Also on thing that has bothered me more than anything (outside of the selfishness they both have) is that neither one has mentioned their 'christian faith' through the divorce. Not once during the breakup shows or we're having problems did the mention praying or asking God what they should do. That to me blew the whole church speaking stuff out of the water. Jon and Kate have always said how much church and their faith mean to them. Speaking at countless churches about how God has blessed them and provided for them. Now that they are going through hard time no mention of God whatsoever.I just find that odd.

mykidsmom said...

So Jon "runs into" one pap (since when have you ever seen only one by himself) who doesn't ask a single question about the girlfriends but grills him on child labor practices? This whole interview is either a TLC or a PR set-up from the first word.

ding..ding..ding...we have a winner!! You got it!!

stop the show said...

i just read that article. was there a real E! True Hollywood story or are they talking about those half hour specials?

Tick Tock Tick Tock said...

So many LIES, so little time. Hurry Jon! Hurry Kate! Hurry TLC! You only have til Monday!! Think! What lies can you tell now? You told so many... Think the ship is already sinking!!! Please put life jackets on the children FIRST!!! So looong Suckers!

Vanessa said...

They, Jon & Kate, Jodi & Kevin, have obviously had a falling out. There's no way Kate is still in contact with them after they spilled the beans with the firs interview. Jon on the other hand had nothing to say about the first one, other than "I know what I know, she knows what she knows" I'm sure referring to the "contract" that Jodi and Kevin exposed on Radar. But NOW he's up in arms only because it's an attack on him, not just Kate. What happened to him wanting out just a few months ago? He's enjoying his new found notoriety...parties, booze, vacations, SEX...and all being done because he's an absent father, whether or not it's happening on his "time off" or not!
YOU HAVE 8 KIDS!! BOTH OF YOU!!
It's such contradictory behaviour,
you WANTED those kids, you HAD those kids, IT IS A FULL TIME JOB!

Jane10 said...

"So Jon "runs into" one pap (since when have you ever seen only one by himself) who doesn't ask a single question about the girlfriends but grills him on child labor practices? This whole interview is either a TLC or a PR set-up from the first word."

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I have to agree with others. That was my thought when I heard the interview. That guy was really kissing Jon's butt.

He was even helping Jon by making the comment that the kids seem to be having a good time while being filmed. Did you also notice how Jon takes his time getting in the car. He opens the door and stands around taking things out of his pocket and hesitating before getting in. It's like he was just waiting around for the attention.

Becky Q in PA said...

Glenda said...on[e] thing that has bothered me more than anything (outside of the selfishness they both have) is that neither one has mentioned their 'christian faith' through the divorce.
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Thank God (pun intended) they didn't mention their religion during this time of exceedingly greedy and selfish behavior on both their parts. It would make my head explode! (And while some so-called Christians--can you say Jim Bakker?--have gotten away with bilking $$$$$$$$ from the unsuspecting while living a lavish lifestyle (at least for a while),

I don't think Kate or Jon want our scrutiny on the subject. Then we might hafta dig into their church speaking engagements or the "love offerings"/CASH ONLY pictures that they may not have paid taxes on.

Oops! Too bad, J&K! We're scrutinizing your actions anyway!

Another sad thing is that the people new to this mess sometimes don't even know how much J&K have played the religion card while they were ripping off good people. (That's the other reason they're laying low--don't want to offend the "new fans.") Blech! Another good reason for this blog--to keep the record straight amidst the flurry of BS PR spin.

End it now said...

Regarding the recent radaronline video with Jon. Anyone count how many times he said "for my kids".

My daughter who is majoring in psychology says that he is repeating this bantor because he's trying to convince himself he's doing it for his kids and he's a good father. If you are truly a good parent and try to do your best for them at all times you have no need to broadcast it to the world. It's like going around and telling everyone "I'm a good mother". Example: "I took the kids for ice cream today, you know I'm all about spending time with my kids, see, see I'm taking them for ice cream" If you're truly engaged with your children you don't feel the need to point it out to everyone. It's like the family who makes a point to make sure everyone in the community sees them going to church every Sunday, children all polished, perfectly dressed, but in reality they are dysfuntional and abusive in the home. Jon and Kate, forgo the money and genuinely focus on those kids, then you won't have to constantly repeat, "for my kids".

Oren said...

I wish Can-Do-New-Attitude-Kate wouldn't jut out her jaw to expose her bottom teeth (in the 'heroic Kate builds a free tent' promo).

This - plus the sight of her reverse mullet hairdo and fake boobs - makes me want to rip out my eyeballs.

Her teeth whitening was a freebie, so she can't get a refund, but her teeth look grey and fake.

~db~ said...

Jon and Kate have always said how much church and their faith mean to them. Speaking at countless churches about how God has blessed them and provided for them. Now that they are going through hard time no mention of God whatsoever.I just find that odd.
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I don't find it odd at all and am not surprised, especially if you read the terms for speaking at the churches that another poster put up. Jon and Kate may think their blessings have come from God himself but I'm thinking that they didn't, they came straight from the devil himself to tempt them and they went right along with it using Gods name in vain. If I was them I would be very concerned right about now and desperately trying to get my life and my faith back in order.

PR in PA said...

Gosselin free for 1 year! :) And I don't miss any of it!

~db~ said...

If everything we have been seeing, reading and hearing about this show/family has been a set up from the get go for ratings...then I would venture to say that someone (with 8 kids) has WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY to much time on their hands.

Actually I think that the breakup is real, they are both just to immature and self centered to really be committed to some one else or to be concerned about their children's long term future. I'm sure they love their kids but I don't think they have their "BEST" interest at heart at all. They both are only thinking about numero uno!

Not a fan of either said...

I heard Jon say in an interview last night either on E or TMZ (can't remember, it might have been taken from the Radar interview) that his children are only filmed 2 to 3 hours a day no more than 3 days a week. I don't believe this. Kate herself said sometimes the crew was there 4 times a week and Kevin, Jodi, and former neighbors have reported as much as 8 or more hours per day of filming. I cannot believe he would just outright lie about something that could be proven.

Dunwoody Mom said...

Some words for Jodi and Kevin:

Stay strong and know you are doing the right thing for the Gosselin children. Someday the children will know how much they were loved by their aunt and uncle and how horribly they were used by their parents and the other adults in their life.

Connie said...

End it now said...
"Regarding the recent radaronline video with Jon. Anyone count how many times he said "for my kids".

My daughter who is majoring in psychology says that he is repeating this bantor because he's trying to convince himself he's doing it for his kids and he's a good father. If you are truly a good parent and try to do your best for them at all times you have no need to broadcast it to the world."

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My thoughts exactly. I think Jon is going to implode when he finally realizes what he's doing TO his children all in the name of money. Kate will never see the light because that's the way she's wired. And TLC will continue to be a big corporate entity and use anyone and everyone as long as "the ratings are good and they're making money hand over fist. jmho...

goawayJandK said...

I cannot believe he would just outright lie about something that could be proven.

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Not surprised at all here, either.

Jon and K8 have told SO MANY lies they cannot keep them straight, but we, the non-sheeple have been calling them since day one. There was a thread recently on this very topic. I have not watched since the St Jude epi, but I can very vividly recount the lies that have been told from the previous episodes.

A very recent example: Jon made some a$$hat remark that he was never close with Kevin. Well, from the previous episodes :

- K8 herself said they moved into their 2nd home because it was near Jodi and Kevin

- Jodi and Kevin babysat countless times and accompanied them on trips/outings to help them

- Joel's middle name is KEVIN

- Kevin spent HOURS helping Jon install shelving in the garage and also helped build the carnival stands for the tups' 3rd birthday party

Yup Jon, sure sounds like you and Kevin were just distant acquaintances.

down the road said...

I've been told by a few people around here that Jon has been spotted in an 840i(?) BMW...valued at 85,000....

Can anyone verify this?

Wendy said...

I used to think that Kate was a great mom. I actually told many of my friends who were mothers to look to her for examples of how to handle parenting situations. I thought, if she can handle 8 kids, then none of us should complain. I admired how she cooked meals for her family and daily thought of ways to benefit her children. She seemed like a great mom.

However, things have greatly changed. I found out that she wasn't actually doing any of the things she was claiming to do. She wasn't doing the cooking and cleaning. She wasn't even home most of the time. Even before her book tours she was gone to speak at churches. She put on a show for tv cameras to make us think that she was just like us. You know a mom raising kids and dealing with life's challenges. I thought it was real. Boy was I wrong.

I will never like Kate. Why? It's not because she isn't perfect. It's not because she is getting divorced.

I will never like or support Kate because she LIED. She is a liar. She wanted us to see her a certain way. She wanted us all to think she was a mom dealing with life's ups and downs. She didn't show us a mom traveling to speak at churches, didn't show us how she charged $20 dollars for an autograph, she didn't show us her staying in fancy hotels, she didn't show us her personal chef, she didn't show us how people do her errands, she didn't show us her housekeeper and she didn't show us the truth.

I probably would have liked her if she was honest. I may not agree with how other people live but I can respect honesty.

I was a loyal fan, a very loyal fan. I introduced this show to many of my friends and family. It all changed when I started learning the truth.

Kate Gosselin is no different than a con-artist. She conned us all into thinking she was something that she isn't. That is why people follow her every move, that is why people are reporting her life on every magazine. It's because she got caught in her lie and now everyone wants to know the truth. She opened herself to this by putting her fake life on tv. Now, people want to know the truth.

I don't think I am the first fan to change sides because I feel conned. Kate said on Rachael Ray that it doesn't matter to her if people don't like her cause she will always have supporters. Now, the people who support Kate are people trying to live a lie. People who support con-artists or people who don't know the whole truth.

I can't support a liar.

Reality tv is video of actual events. They need to call this show a Staged Reality Show. Actual events just happen. They don't involve segment producers, television executives, a vision plan or planned events. They just happen. This show hasn't been real since the first product placement and free outing that they pretended to pay for. Don't call it a reality show if it isn't real.

Anonymous said...

I think that until people come to realize that both Jon and Kate have gone awry big time, this back and forth stuff about who's the better parent will continue ad nauseum.
I can't even begin to comprehend the spending spree that BOTH of them have been on since the divorce. They're both going through the moolah like there's no tomorrow.
Also, the fact that the show's saying that both of them will be dating is enough to make me ill.
So much for being "all about the children." Weren't divorce papers only filed 2 months ago??? I am just waiting for Kate to "step out" with her bodyguard and act like it's a big surprise.
We all need to pray for the mental health of the kids. God knows they need it.

caroleena said...

Ya know folks many a shady character has been taken down by the IRS when no other avenue was succesful. Think about it, the cash for the pics or autographs or whatever, where is that accounted for? I believe I read somewhere how Jon preferred freebies becuz of tax issues. This really can be a downfall for these scammers. Hiding income bye bye!!

fidosmommy said...

Hmmm, maybe the Gosselins were not close with the Kreiders because they "didn't know how to help" - meaning the Kreiders didn't offer money. Instead of all this useless crap like unmatching lunch plates, bibs and highchairs for the kids while eating at Aunt Jodi's, the Kreiders should have just given Kate some cash so she could get what she wanted, like another trip to a spa to unwind from an exhausting day. And then gone to the store to shop for matching things so Kate would not get
apoplectic when she saw the pictures of her children not looking exactly the same.


Kevin and Jodi don't know where Kate and Jon are living? Heck, I know where they're living and I've never met them.

Unto themselves said...

The way Jon has turned his back on Kevin/Jodi, is the same way that Kate turned her back on everyone else in her life and now he's following the same path. They think they only need the kids and their "job" to continue. But to rob young children of the love of grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins not to mention friends, can never be re-done. They are alone unto themselves.They as parents trust no one and the kids will grow up the same way. There is wisdom and knowledge that the elders in a family can teach, and that's how children connect with the past and family history. For the Gosselin 8 there will never be any of that. No big family holidays with all the relatives, no birthdays or summer picnics with the cousins, nothing.

fidosmommy said...

Unto themselves, I agree.

You know, we've seen some of the children's friends in episodes - (at the 5th birthday party) and in paparazzi photos (going to the Jonas Brothers concert.) I hope these are true friends who like the Gosselin children for who they are, so the children won't one day
ask, "Did Suzie Jo like me for myself, or did she just want to hang around somebody on TV and get a free day out doing something fun?"

Every actor (word chosen intentionally) fears they will be liked for their fame, not for their personal qualities. They have to be awfully careful of the motives of people who befriend them. What a miserable way to have to live!

seemstomakeperfectsense said...

fidosmommy said...


Every actor (word chosen intentionally) fears they will be liked for their fame, not for their personal qualities.


That seems to suit Jon and Kate just fine. Then again, what other reason could anyone possibly find for wanting to be around either of them?

How many cars does it make? said...

Yes, I thought everyone already KNEW about Jon's new BMW. $85,000 by the way. It was mentioned locally, were people see him come and go in town.

Dumped again said...

I just read that Ed Hardy dumped Jon, per the designers spokes person, that Christian A., just wanted to pick Jon's brain because they knew he liked motorcycles, and he was visable on TV. The person eluded to the fact that they were not too happy that Jon said he was bringing a hair stylist and instead it was Hailey who he showed up with. Again, Jon the liar. Once people find him out (like Kate) they dump them.

fidosmommy said...

seemstomakeperfectsense said...

fidosmommy said...


Every actor (word chosen intentionally) fears they will be liked for their fame, not for their personal qualities.

That seems to suit Jon and Kate just fine. Then again, what other reason could anyone possibly find for wanting to be around either of them?


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Yes, for Jon and Kate. But I am concerned about the feelings and worries of the children. Do they wonder what motivates other children to befriend them? I wish they could just not have that to
think about. It's hard enough to
be a kid from a topsy turvy home some days.

Just Curious said...

Kate stinks! said...

It really breaks my heart to think that the Gosselin children go to bed without mommy and daddy BOTH giving them kisses and hugs before closing their eyes at night. When your a child all you want is for mommy and daddy to make you feel safe and loved. All those kids feel right now are feelings of abandonment and insecurity. The parents should be stripped of all parenting rights.

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Do you think all divorced/separated parents should be stripped of their parenting rights, or just the Gosselins?

Little Miss NASCAR said...

I went to Wal Mart yesterday to get a little birthday gift for an acquaintance's little boy. I bought a cute little rugby shirt and some jeans. I got the items home and went to take the price tag off when I saw Kate's big face on one of the tags. I hadn't even paid attention in the store.

I ended up digging the reciept out of the trash and taking the shirt back today. The lady at customer service asked if I wanted an exchange but I told her no, that it wasn;t a size issue, but that I couldn't buy clothes from Healthtex because they used Kate as a spokesperson on the tags. The lady looked at me funny but I got my money back. I know it didn't matter much, but I felt better after returning it.

alphabitch said...

Thought you guys might be interested in how some of the sheeple are convinced Kate has "absolutely no help" with her kids. Just another symptom of a true sympathy whore, basking in the glow of her pity party.

alphabitch said...

Sorry, my last comment was meant to have a link! Here it is:

http://www.truuconfessions.com/channels/Mom/confession/469749

Just click "comments"

TUNDRA said...

Christian Audigier's rep says Jon Gosselin told her he was bringing his stylist to visit the Ed Hardy designer in St. Tropez, but instead showed up with Hailey Glassman, the 23-year-old daughter of Kate Gosselin's tummy-tuck surgeon.

"[Jon] had told me was he was going out there with his stylist," Audigier's rep, who declined to be named, told TVGuide.com. "We said we could accommodate her going out there as long as she's bringing his biker wardrobe or something relevant — motorcycles being the key the factor in all of this."

Read More Here

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Gosselin-Brought-New-1008010.aspx

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How classy - Hailey is accomodated on the trip to France under the auspices of being Jon's wardrobe "stylist"? So what happened in the Hamptons? Where was Hailey the sylist?

TLC is running the show said...

One thing that Kevin said in the interview that struck me. He said
"TLC is keeping them away from us."
How strange. I believe him though,
because I'm sure that when Kevin/Jodi really saw what was happening with the kids and the long hours, they voiced it to Jon and Kate. TLC got wind of that and "goodbye to Kevin and Jodi."

Stacey said...

http://dlisted.com/node/33221 (warning for language, etc.)

Oh dear. I wonder if she'll be one of the top Halloween costumes this year ;)

TexasMac said...

I'm Gosselin Free!!!!

BarbMae said...

Jon is such a tool... this interview on RadarOnline is stupid. Oh and did you see him in the pics greeting his fans???? What there were 6 each time... WOW!!! He really is loved... NOT!!! So what if he is holding Mady's hand... she probably came down because he was ignoring his kids to be w/the paps and "fans". I just don't understand how Kate can be away and no one knows where she is and no pics are taken. To me Jon is just a stupid publicity hound. Since the conception of this show J&K's call has been that their #1 priority is their kids. We all know that is a lie. Their #1 priority is themselves and how much money they can make and how many freebies they can take. With Jon having pics everyday just disgusts me. Will I watch on Monday.... hell no!!!! I will just read the posts on this website. IMO I just wish that my fellow posters on this website would suceed on getting this show off the air and the kids back to a normal life.

TUNDRA said...

All these sponsors and advertisers have to do in response to the growing backlash is choose another show to promote their products and/or services. It's not like anyone is trying to destroy their livlihood or the economy. These are large corporations, many publically traded.

Jon, You Are So Busted said...

End it now said...
Regarding the recent radaronline video with Jon. Anyone count how many times he said "for my kids".

My daughter who is majoring in psychology says that he is repeating this bantor because he's trying to convince himself he's doing it for his kids and he's a good father. If you are truly a good parent and try to do your best for them at all times you have no need to broadcast it to the world.
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What an excellent post. He was trying 'way too hard in this "interview" by the pap.

readerlady said...

Unfortunately, I think the Gosselin 8 went to bed without hugs and kisses from both parents long before Kon separated. Jon's "job" was to put the kids to bed at night. In the early shows he was shown tucking them in and kissing them goodnight (at least, the tups). No Kate in sight.

Many have commented on Kon's poor grammar and put it down to stupidity. Unfortunately, no, it isn't stupidity. Grammar isn't being taught in schools any more. Bad grammar has always been one of my pet peaves. I was raised by an English & spelling teacher (at the post secondary level) and made pocket money grading spelling papers beginning when I was 8 and moving on to include the English papers when I was 10. Anyway - the current philosophy is that grammar is too confining and stifles creativity. So - we are on our second generation of students who have no idea of how to construct an intelligent sentence, what a part of speech is, or how to use personal pronouns. Just listen to any scripted show, news report, or read a newspaper article or "serious" book. It's everywhere, not just in the Gosselin household.

Sorry for the rant. Y'all pushed my buttons!

As blind as sheep said...

On the dlisted site one of the sheeple said Kate has a "little" help, "only a babysitter in case she needs to take the kids out."
another said that Kate's "mother comes over a few days a week to help out a little with the kids."
What planet are these people from? They do not even know the first thing about J&K at all. One sheeple also said how Kate is dedicating her whole life to her kids, and being a super MOM." I had to stop reading, my blood pressure was going up.

lukebandit said...

it makes sense now with the st. tropez pictures of jon and hailey and christian auger. jon lied so hailey could go. and i am sure when they got there jon introduced her as his girlfriend. pick his brain about motorcycles? just because he was GIVEN a big expensive motorcycle doesn't mean he is an expert. the pictures of the st. tropez trip they were smiling but it didn't look like a normal natural happy smile. jon knew he lied about hailey being a stylist and i am glad he was dumped. that is the reson he is hanging around michael lohan tryin to get a reality show.
the kids are going to turn 6 or 7 in pre-school. kate you should be ashamed of yourself. i would of hired tutors to help get them up to speed. they look so dumbed down with the bibs. i guess they will graduate when they are 20 or 21? i am surprised that SNL hasn't shown them as teenagers with bibs on.
and the markers. wow. took the kids to the Crayola factory and refused for them to use markers. kate are you living in the dark ages? they make it washable now, you nut.
eileen evil and entourage (TLC) will keep on the money train and exploit these precious children till they get where they will be out of control and they will not film anymore, and by that time, it will be too late.
God bless the Gosselin 8.

Mom With Two Adult Children said...

"and the markers. wow. took the kids to the Crayola factory and refused for them to use markers. kate are you living in the dark ages? they make it washable now, you nut."

I'm a little worried now, I bought my neighbours 5 year old (almost 6)granddaughter one of those giant find and search pads that you color. There was a big sale on at Meijers on Crayola products so I went crazy and bought her crayons, fat markers, skinny markers, colour pencils and (oh my god) glitter glue. It's been a while since my kids were five but I believe they played with those products at that age. I don't know now ..... Should I rush out tomorrow and buy the little girl a hazmat suit to go along with the gift? :)

Its actually a family fun pad, I was thinking her grandparents and parents might want to join her in some coloring. Even we'd like to have some fun with her, the friendly neighbours. I think Jon and Kate should get a couple and spend some quality time with their kids. You know, instead of hanging out in the driveway, they could sit around the kitchen table and search for items and get their little minds going, color, laugh, drink cocoa. Na, watching your kids from a plastic chair while on your cell phone is so much easier.

goawayJandK said...

Bad grammar has always been one of my pet peaves. I was raised by an English & spelling teacher

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shouldn't that be POOR grammar and pet PEEVES ? LOL

MIranda said...

I remember an old episode where they had just arrived at a motel. The kids were in the van (being watched by production people -- the original P-people) and J&K were in the motel room arguing about something.

One of them (Jon, I think) said something like, "You act like I'm uncompetent" and the other responded with something like, "Yes, you are uncompetent." I remember flinching at their compounded illiteracy. It's a miracle those kids ever learned to speak at all.

Miranda said...

A few ideas:

1) Everyone who paid Kate cash for anything sends a letter to the IRS (and their state tax authorties) reporting it.

2) Everyone who donated ANYTHING to Kon sends a letter reporting it.

3) Bumper stickers. The possibilities are endless -what should they say?

antique lady said...

Oh, mercy. I got in late and had to read the whole day's posts at one time.

First, since no one has mentioned it, please listen to the pap's voice in the interview with Jon. We have heard that exact voice twice in "pap" interviews before. Yeah, it was staged.

Second, Wendy, if you believe that there has ever in the history of television been a "real life" reality show, you are incorrect.

Third, readerlady, since most of the people who criticize grammar and spelling and speech criticize "grammer" (including those who claim to be teachers) and cannot either spell or use proper grammar, we just have to turn our auto-pilots off. It's painful, I know. Love you, by the way.

That's all I can handle for now.

ForeverHopeful said...

Wendy said...
I used to think that Kate was a great mom. I actually told many of my friends who were mothers to look to her for examples of how to handle parenting situations. I thought, if she can handle 8 kids, then none of us should complain. I admired how she cooked meals for her family and daily thought of ways to benefit her children. She seemed like a great mom.

However, things have greatly changed. I found out that she wasn't actually doing any of the things she was claiming to do. She wasn't doing the cooking and cleaning. She wasn't even home most of the time. Even before her book tours she was gone to speak at churches. She put on a show for tv cameras to make us think that she was just like us. You know a mom raising kids and dealing with life's challenges. I thought it was real. Boy was I wrong.

I will never like Kate. Why? It's not because she isn't perfect. It's not because she is getting divorced.

I will never like or support Kate because she LIED. She is a liar. She wanted us to see her a certain way. She wanted us all to think she was a mom dealing with life's ups and downs. She didn't show us a mom traveling to speak at churches, didn't show us how she charged $20 dollars for an autograph, she didn't show us her staying in fancy hotels, she didn't show us her personal chef, she didn't show us how people do her errands, she didn't show us her housekeeper and she didn't show us the truth.

I probably would have liked her if she was honest. I may not agree with how other people live but I can respect honesty.

I was a loyal fan, a very loyal fan. I introduced this show to many of my friends and family. It all changed when I started learning the truth.

Kate Gosselin is no different than a con-artist. She conned us all into thinking she was something that she isn't. That is why people follow her every move, that is why people are reporting her life on every magazine. It's because she got caught in her lie and now everyone wants to know the truth. She opened herself to this by putting her fake life on tv. Now, people want to know the truth.

I don't think I am the first fan to change sides because I feel conned. Kate said on Rachael Ray that it doesn't matter to her if people don't like her cause she will always have supporters. Now, the people who support Kate are people trying to live a lie. People who support con-artists or people who don't know the whole truth.

I can't support a liar.

Reality tv is video of actual events. They need to call this show a Staged Reality Show. Actual events just happen. They don't involve segment producers, television executives, a vision plan or planned events. They just happen. This show hasn't been real since the first product placement and free outing that they pretended to pay for. Don't call it a reality show if it isn't real.

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Wendy! I could not have said it better! You said everything that I have been thinking!

I think that I will CONTINUE to watch to see how many MORE lies will be told!

Sorry guys, but I just HAVE to see/hear it with my own eyes/ears!

Thanks for a GREAT post, Wendy!

Becky Q in PA said...

I just saw this quote that applies so well to Kate:

"Sticks and stones only break bones. Words can shatter a soul." -Ira Hughs

*sigh* Those poor kids.

Don't Know, Don't Care Anymore said...

I can see where PR people could maybe salvage something here for Kate. Other than BikiniGate, Boobs and Babydolls, what actually have we seen her do recently to add more wood to the fire? Steve conveniently disappeared.

Did Jon and Kate hatch a plan once they realized their income-producing opportunities other than the reality show were drying up? Who dreamed it up to where Jon would look so bad to make Kate look SO good? I thought Jon wanted off the show, but maybe the show needed Jon because they figured Kate couldn't hold up the ratings on her own.

But how, then, do you make Jon interesting enough to draw in viewers? Kate The Mom and Jon The Mom are just too boring. Better to make Jon a playboy, no? Jet-Set Daddy and Long-Suffering Mommy...yeah, that might fly. That might get their attention!

Is it TLC who’s holding a great deal of power on how Jon and Kate are conducting their lives? Play up Mommy Kate and jazz up Jon, since the more Kate can come out smelling like a rose, so could return her popularity for a book audience, more speaking engagements, maybe even the cooking show idea? Money for the family business! Perhaps Jon gets a lift from portraying the "just Jon," new “with-it,” cool guy to where none of this manipulation bothers him even when it puts him in an unflattering light.

I've thought the Gosselin kids were their parents' little puppets but I'm beginning to think that the Gosselin parents are TLC's puppets. Does not make me feel sorry for Jon and Kate. Their KIDS, though, are another matter entirely. They have no voice or ability to save themselves. They are true, innocent victims.

Jon and Kate could have made different choices, namely saying "no." If they view themselves as “victims,” it's only because of their greed. Maybe fear drove them there, because they didn't know how they'd take care of so many kids. Others will say greed drove the pregnancies.

In the end, my sympathy is reserved only for the children.

sayitisntso33 said...

the kids are going to turn 6 or 7 in pre-school.

I am just curious. Were the tuplets going to pre-school during this school year? I thought they were.

Miranda said...

I just watched Jon's fake interview with Radar Online.

As I watched, I was sickened by the shameless hypocrisy of Jon acting in a staged, pre-scripted filmed "interview" in which he proclaims that his kids aren't actors in a staged, pre-scripted, filmed TV show. "They're just living their lives.." yeah, Jon, just like you --how many hours did you and your paid interviewer/publicist spend rehearsing the questions and answers? (By the way, whoever that interviewer was, he was overpaid -- he was a horrible actor.)

That video also started me thinking about Kon's bizarre, but unshakable, belief that God bestowed unlimited entitlement upon them and that, like royalty, they aren't required to be gracious, humble, grateful or even honest. After all, God gave them all this stuff and the $$ -- why should anyone have a problem with them collecting it from people it doesn't belong to?!

That's just one of the many things that's starting to convince me that both Jon & Kate are of very low intelligence.

Kate is certainly clever, in a greedy, scheming, manipulative way -- but those skills don't require reflection, self-awareness or complex thought; they're just the raw instincts of a pedator. That's why Kate is incapable of comprehending why her behavior is offensive to normal people, but it's also why she doesn't care (my cat doesn't care what other creatures will think of it for killing a bird; it's totally instinct-driven.)

I used to give Jon more credit, but the unblushing dishonesty of that interview stunt convinced me that he's just as morally empty and disconnected as Kate, and not even half as smart (which isn't saying much.)

ManicNarcissism said...

goawayJandK said...

Bad grammar has always been one of my pet peaves. I was raised by an English & spelling teacher

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shouldn't that be POOR grammar and pet PEEVES ? LOL

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Thank you both of you for your contribution to my morning laugh. Please don't even try counting my grammatical errors. I know I stink.

alsoamomtotwins said...

Can I ask a couple questions? I've tried reading through the archives but there's just too much to read through.

I watched and loved the show Seasons 1 and 2. Other than the vow renewal, I haven't watched it since.

The recent events have just turned my stomach and I found GWoP.

So here are the questions:

1. What happened to the original production crew? It's been mentioned in several posts?

2. How do people know Kate wasn't really cooking, cleaning, etc.? Is this just recently or ever?

3. Aren't the tups starting Kindergarten in the Fall? My twins are five months older and I know the tups make the cut off by a mile.

I have a zillion others but would appreciate any answers you might share.

Thanks.

ForeverHopeful said...

OK...going out on a limb here...

I DO plan to watch the show tomorrow! I HAVE to watch the evolution of this mess!

I DO believe, as many have you have already stated, that Kate and TLC read this blog!

Things change right before our eyes!

Friends help us to see ourselves more clearly. They help us to edit ourselves, most importantly, they rescue us from making fools of ourselves. Kate and Jon HAVE no friends! They really need US to help them because they don't seem to be able to help themselves!

I WANT to believe that SOMEHOW everything will be OK. I WANT to believe that SOMEHOW Jon and Kate will crawl back intothe lives of their children.

Sure, J&K have made incredible TV and tabloid reading for the last couple months.

I am NOW looking to see how they are going to FIX the MESS.

I can't NOT watch the show, and I MUST read all I can about J&K+8!

Tami said...

"down the road said...

I've been told by a few people around here that Jon has been spotted in an 840i(?) BMW...valued at 85,000....

Can anyone verify this?"

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OK, Jon's a jerk, but if you're talking about the black BMW with red seats Jon's been seen in in the pictures online, it's an older (2005 was the last year for that style)M3, therefore used, which would of cost him $24K at most.

mollybloom said...

Jon and Kate made it into the Boston Sunday Globe in a piece by Joanna Weiss: Jon & Kate Still Lures Us--But for New Reasons. I read this in print and don't have a link, but the article is dead on.

Weiss notes that "America likes fertility, but it likes strife even more." The episodes like the American Chopper tie-in don't get great ratings; those that are tabloid-ready, such as the separation announcement, are the moneymakers. TLC, "the network [that] has branded itself as the warm-hearted TV home of oversize families and undersize people . . . has some interest in showing the Gosselins as caring parents." However, warm and fuzzy doesn't make ratings like tabloid-ugly, so TLC walks a balance. Weiss seems to suggest that TLC carefully orchestrates photo attacks by lurking paparazzis and tabloid clips of Kate denying Mady water and then Kate turning on the tears over the demise of her marriage to keep the dynamic shifting.

Finally, Weiss points out that "Jon and Kate have set the bar for bitterness high [and] now it's their solemn duty to keep it up." Of course, the well-being of the kids has never been part of the equation, and Weiss is on the side of ending the show.

While I hate seeing these losers get any press time, even in a respectable publication, it's interesting that people at large are catching on to what's been going on as this travesty makes it back to another season.

grannyoftow said...

I am sending out a very hearfelt plea....please do not watch tomorrow night..PLEASE! No matter what people have said...it does make a difference..one way or another you can be counted...either by your cable company or some other way. It may not reflect in the Neilson ratings but it will reflect in the ratings of your how your cable/dish network/direct tv/whatever you have companies view the shows they wish to buy and show to their viewing audiences. Please make this stand if you are serious about helping these children!

Kiki said...

I won't be watching.

But if any GWoPers feel they must tune in, would you please do a big favor for the rest of us by making a list of the advertisers and posting it on this blog?

Any company that advertises is complicit - along with TLC and the Gosselins - of exploiting children. I plan to email every single one to express my outrage.

Freedom4the8 said...

Miranda said...
A few ideas:

1) Everyone who paid Kate cash for anything sends a letter to the IRS (and their state tax authorties) reporting it.

2) Everyone who donated ANYTHING to Kon sends a letter reporting it.

3) Bumper stickers. The possibilities are endless -what should they say?
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Bumper Stickers Saying:
"FREE THE GOSSELIN 8"

ConcernedMomInNY said...

Dr.G said:
"The ONLY thing that we truly know is that there are 8 children who are earning a living for their family (even if Jon and Kate say that they are not working).

The ONLY thing to focus on (as Jodi and Kevin appear to have concluded) is whether any laws are being broken, or if new laws need to be enacted).

Any other discussion or focus takes away from the true nature of the problem.

Let's keep P. T. Barnum's famous statement in mind about a sucker being born every minute, and let's not fall into the the trap of believing anything that Jon and Kate might be trying to put over on us.

Let's discuss how Jon and Kate can be held accountable for their actions with regard to their children, and how these children (and all children in the entertainment industry) can have their rights safeguarded."
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GREAT points!! Any ideas on what we can do to motivate the powers that be to do something??

All about the Bling said...

I don't care how "OLD" or what Jon's new BMW costs, the problem is that he felt the NEED to buy another car because the Nissan didn't have enough status appeal.

a rose is a rose said...

When I saw the recent clips of Jon and Kate on video (Jon on Radar) (Kate in the clip for Monday's show)...I cannot believe the sense of entitlement these two fools feel that they have in life. How do people become that COCKY?

A whole lotta nothing said...

What I'd love to know is exactly what Kate DOES during the day. I see not a single productive thing that she's involved in, whether it be parenting, running a household, volunteering, helping at a church, playing with her kids....anything.
What a vacuous life. All she does is, stay home, wait for checks in the mail, visit the spa and nail salon, go for a tan, pick up freebees at UPS, buy Starbucks and sit in a plastic stack chair.That's her life. Unreal.

chesterctymom said...

mykidsmom said...

So Jon "runs into" one pap (since when have you ever seen only one by himself) who doesn't ask a single question about the girlfriends but grills him on child labor practices? This whole interview is either a TLC or a PR set-up from the first word.

ding..ding..ding...we have a winner!! You got it!!


And this was the first time I ever heard "trust fund" for the kids mentioned. I hope there are actual funds in their accounts...and hope that they are paid retroactively since the beginning of the series!

fidosmommy said...

alsoamomtotwins said...
Can I ask a couple questions? I've tried reading through the archives but there's just too much to read through.

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Yeah, the number of posts is pretty much overwhelming, isn't it?
I get lost in the maze of GWoP myself about every day!

Here's my take on your questions. Others may have different answers, which is fine with me.

^^^^^^^^

1. What happened to the original production crew? It's been mentioned in several posts?
A: Jen Stocks and Scott Enlow left
(we're told for moral reasons) and are now working on 18 Kids and Counting.

2. How do people know Kate wasn't really cooking, cleaning, etc.? Is this just recently or ever?
A: Kate did cook some. She made pancakes (blueberry, using a written family recipe as she mixed) and saying she sometimes made banana pancakes. She said pancakes were a tradition for Saturday mornings. She also served turkey bacon, but that's a "rare treat". She made 2 medium sized pots of soup "for winter" one day, saying she does it every year. She mixed up some Monkey Munch once with the girls. She said she made a Flag Cake for the
4th of July, but we didn't see that process on camera. Jon cooked a Korean meal once and grills out. Most of the rest of the time the meals and snacks we've seen have been slices of turkey, carrot sticks, grapes, crackers, granola, yogurt, ice cream, etc. We've only seen breakfast and lunch, I think. We don't really know too much about what Kate serves them for dinner, but she swears it's organic all the way.

3. Aren't the tups starting Kindergarten in the Fall? My twins are five months older and I know the tups make the cut off by a mile.
A: The younger children will be attending Pre-Kindergarten in the fall. It's apparently a 3 day a week program for those old enough to be in Kindergarten but who have
some "catching up" to do for whatever reason to make Kgarten a workable program.

Next?

Have a good day.

goawayJandK said...

Manic and Readerlady:

My "poke" was meant in a VERY lighthearted way - I did not mean to offend !

Thanks to a fantastic teacher my senior year of high school, I am very aware of grammatical/spelling errors(and make my share of them also!).

I normally do not correct people, unless they are ignorant a$$hats like KON, but given the content of your post Readerlady, I just couldn't resist =)

Money like water said...

Seems like Jon, in the Radar video, felt compelled to mention "trust fund" for the kids. Yes folks, the pressure is on. He KNOWS what the first thing on people's minds are, and he wants to divert them away from thinking what we already know..that they're going through the kids money like it'll never end.

abbra said...

Since the Gosselin Parents enjoy being in the spotlight so much perhaps its time for their fans foes and the FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNMENTS to demand an actual accounting of all their financial equity/savings/any bank accounts and accountings of " hidden untraceable income," from speaking engagements and endorsements that have been paid in cash to the Gosselins.
Now I realize that it may be hard to get an accurate accounting from liars Kate and Jon but if churches whose congregations contributed to the Gosselins " love offerings" could dispense accurate figures of the gift they gave in the collection plate it might give the Government some semblance of how much monetary income the Gosselins were collecting thus rounding out a figure for the Government to charge tax on the free money Gosselins received from givers. I know it sounds far fetched but its just a suggestion.

Emmy said...

Freedom4the8 said...
Miranda said...
A few ideas:

1) Everyone who paid Kate cash for anything sends a letter to the IRS (and their state tax authorties) reporting it.

2) Everyone who donated ANYTHING to Kon sends a letter reporting it.

3) Bumper stickers. The possibilities are endless -what should they say?
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Companies and large organizations report donations. HOWEVER, people dropping a $20 bill for a photo and autograph probably do not.

I'd love to know how many copies of the children's photos have been printed up since Kate started visiting churches to beg. That would tell quite a lot about how much unreported income there might be.

How about a bumper sticker saying:
AUDIT JON & KATE?

readerlady said...

@GoawayJandK

You are correct. It should be pet peeves. That'll "larn me" to proofread my posts LOL. Bad grammar/poor grammar - either is correct but, you are right, poor grammar is probably more appropriate.

I've been TLC free all summer and have no intention of watching tomorrow night. I'll probably watch my poor Reds get slaughtered again tomorrow night and record "The Closer".

Bumper sticker possibilities:

Jon and Kate: the new tyranny

Can't do the graphics on a computer (unfortunately, I'm only semi-literate on computers), but a circle with the letters TLC in it ad a line through it.

Lindsay said...

I know it's the least of Kate's problems, but I wish she'd change the style of her hair. It's always too damn short, and makes her forehead look too big. Streaks, head shaved in the back, blond, it doesn't matter - she always looks like crap. Am I being hateful? YES. Just can't stand the woman and the creep she married.

Unclaimed cash said...

I like the IRS idea. I am sure that there can be an accounting by the people that paid $20.00 cash for the photos Kate sold and are now angry and feeling taken and want to report her. You KNOW Kate didn't or wouldn't report one DIME of the cash for photos.

Kay said...

Ok, here is how I (with my two-bit analysis!) thought this was going to turn out with Jon and Kate:

At first, I totally empathized with Jon. Having lived with a narcissistic parent (and having had problems with both a former friend and co-worker who both had serious NPD), I knew that Jon probably never saw it coming and was in a no-win position from the get-go. I saw that he really tried with various ways of coping with Kate:

-In early episodes,we saw how they met and how demure and sweet Kate played it until she and Jon married. Then, I suspect, all hell broke loose when Jon realized whom he had married, After the children came, Jon spoke up to Kate (both for himself and for the kids). This NEVER works with folks with NPD because they just escalate. He got nothing but more grief so he tried another tactic.....

-He quieted down and tried to present a united front with Kate, even when she was being ridiculous...I guess better to be on her side than be on her enemy list. Then Kate showed literally no respect for him. So, that didn't work and.....

-Jon became passive/aggressive, making snide remarks under his breath. Kate just got meaner so.....

-Jom totally withdrew, talked only to the camera (when they were on the couch) and silently looked away when Kate tried to ridicule or engage him..

That is when I knew it: Jon was done.

Horray for Jon, I thought! Now we'll see what a great man and father he can be. Now he will step up to the plate and make sure that his children are protected from Kate and TLC.

Ummmm.......I sure feel dumb.

In Her Copious Spare Time said...

A whole lotta nothing said...
"What a vacuous life. All she does is, stay home, wait for checks in the mail, visit the spa and nail salon, go for a tan, pick up freebees at UPS, buy Starbucks and sit in a plastic stack chair. That's her life. Unreal."
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ITA. Doesn't she just exude a sort of inertia? I guess it isn’t a glamorous-enough life at home to energize her into doing anything (unless it’s possible she doesn’t feel well…no snarks, I’m trying to be nice for once).

I doubt she has any real "chores" to do inside or outside the home because we've seen her hire a housekeeper in the past, landscaping crews have been spotted, and we've also seen people accompanying the children on trips or on the grounds of the mansion who are possibly nannies/babysitters. Now that the kids aren't infants (needing all that additional care), a nanny might have morphed into a combination helper, throwing in laundry and doing the cooking unless they’ve hired somebody to do that, too. Kevin indicated in an earlier "Radar" interview that the Gosselins had always had help and it wasn't Kate who was doing everything. (Remember, these people are multi-millionaires, although they want us to think otherwise!)

So, of course, if somebody else is cleaning up after the dogs, doing your cleaning, laundry, cooking & basic grocery shopping, imagine the free time during the day hours! And then, of course, she'd also have all evening because you know she puts those kids down early to bed. Sometimes in the paparazzi photos, we see the token shopping trip or errand-running but, seriously, it's not consistent, so you can guess it's for photo ops or filming, IMO.

If they’re not actors and the filming for the reality show is just their normal, everyday goings-on, then how can that be such hard work for Jon and Kate? They say it’s not “scripted.” Wouldn’t they just be doing what they’re doing anyway?

I would hope she'd use every spare minute of her free time to give some good-quality, one-on-one attention to each of eight kids...I mean, what an opportunity for a mom with a lot of children! A full hour (at least) with each kid individually is an 8-hr day; that should be her primary job if she puts her kids first. Make no mistake, she's got a life of luxury. If she can't spare 40 hours a week with her kids in her current set-up, then she's one poor time manager. She'd probably rather go on and on about it than just do it. Kate seems like one of those people who complain, just to complain.

Originally, she'd looked to me like maybe she was a good multi-tasker and organizer but what I really think is that she learned to be a good delegator because she may be lazy and self-absorbed even if, in the beginning, she was overwhelmed. I know someone who acts like her but they formerly were productive and motivated; it's made me wonder about it. Why does it change? Sometimes acting "spoiled" and having a sense of entitlement ("we deserve this") is an unintentional cover-up for self-worth issues and feeling insecure.

Some people are very “balanced” with jobs, volunteer work, hobbies, church, kids, maybe caregiving to an elderly relative; civic duty or recreation and sports. They seem to obsess less and just DO. Good jugglers. But not everybody is like that. Maybe it’s in the wiring; maybe it’s circumstances. Who knows. Kate thinks her life is hard but, from watching the reality show, seems she’s ALWAYS perceived her life as hard, with or without Jon! Or maybe she just has TOO much time on her hands?! Quit cry’in about it and just get busy, Kate! You might feel a whole lot happier and satisfied!

"S" Words said...

Reruns, flipping thru & saw the episode with Kate & Mady in San Diego. Naming "S" words "Sand, Sun, Sea world, Spa, Sushi, Shamu"...Kate says (looking off to someone off camera) "are we forgetting any?" And I immediately thought "STEVE".I can think of a few more "S" words too. Can't believe I ever wasted my time watching. I will not waste anymore of my time. It's sickening. So fake. So many LIES. America is waking up too. TLC, we don't care anymore about the show. Just end it!

LIWYD said...

CNN Website:

http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/

Quick vote is "Jon & Kate Plus 8: Should the show be canceled?". I voted - it was at 40712 Yes, 4193 No. Perhaps some of you may care to share your opinion there? :D I'd love to see the totals.

Love my small family kitchen said...

So now the Emeril show is on so we can see the before & after kitchen. Oh wait, we are not watching. She does NOT need a new kitchen. She is just a greedy selfish inconsiderate person that demands things for free. How about caring for others once in awhile? You don't even cook for your kids or use real dishes. We are not stupid. Hope you'll be sitting in your kitchen ALL alone someday Kate. Kitchens are for FAMILY to gather. Where is yours? TLC crew? They will be gone too. It is going to happen. Enjoy yourself!

Emeril & Steve said...

BTW, Steve is seen in the kitchen while they eat with Emeril! Why on earth did she need a "bodyguard" there in their own home? Boy, I can't wait for the truth to come out! They are so stupid. It's all on film just like she wanted. LOL

Take A Big Hint, TLC! said...

LIWYD said...
CNN Website:

http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/

Quick vote is "Jon & Kate Plus 8: Should the show be canceled?". I voted - it was at 40712 Yes, 4193 No. Perhaps some of you may care to share your opinion there? :D I'd love to see the totals.

8/02/2009 8:55 PM
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Thanks for the tip. Anytime a poster here gives a lead on a poll, I go right to it to vote. At 10pm, PST, it was 91% "yes" and 9% "no" with a total of 45,427 votes. NOT in the Gosselin parents' favor.

fidosmommy said...

Re: whether the Gosselin children will want to revisit their TV days when they are older....

I don't think their therapists will give them much choice about it. They are going to have to delve into their feelings about it in order to overcome the damage that is being inflicted upon them now.

These children are either going to be egotistical or withdrawn - it can go either way. They will either flaunt themselves or they will hope nobody notices them. None of this is healthy. They need a balance of self-esteem and humility, and they need to know that they are more valuable than being TV personalities. They need a more rounded home life than being cooped up in a house where they also are told what to do, what to wear, and practice doing normal things to get it right for the camera.

I fear they will only be able to sort all this out with professional help. I am not sure they will be able to articulate their feelings clearly or comprehend what they actually went through without having a little assist from the video of their TV show. That will help explain a lot to them and to any therapist working with them. "My life was my job, my job was my life. My house was my office, my office was my house. My siblings were my co-workers, my co-workers were my siblings. My vacations were work, my work was often in vacation spots. What's real and what isn't?
Was I anything besides a circus pony? I did my tricks, I learned my lines, and still my family broke up. What did I do wrong, Doctor?"

If the children ever express concern that they were never really loved for who they were, this GWoP site will be assurance that they were. The world is not all filled with people who are here to use you, make money off of you or broadcast your most embarrassing moments. The world has some nice, caring, concerned people in it who wanted you to have a normal life. Please believe that, dear children.

Tell Me said...

Just watched a re-run of those two clowns. Jon says "This is our business" and then in the next breath he says "I am glad that we have the show so that we have the chance to explain to people"....WELL WHICH ONE IS IT JON?

G said...

Steve Neild is still listed in Wernersville, PA on www.intelius.com as he has been for many months now. That means that he has used an address in Wernersville at some point in time.

Sugarpop said...

It occurred to me this morning that some of the sheeple will NEVER get it. When (I wish I could say if, but it's inevitable) the kids start having problems (drug addictions, eating disorders, promiscuity, anger management issues) the sheeple will be saying, "After all that saintly woman did for them, this is how they repay her?"

Concerned Mom said...

I took the show off my DVR series recording list last night. I feel better.

ManicNarcissism said...

Emeril & Steve said...

BTW, Steve is seen in the kitchen while they eat with Emeril! Why on earth did she need a "bodyguard" there in their own home? Boy, I can't wait for the truth to come out! They are so stupid. It's all on film just like she wanted. LOL

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I could not find Steve in this episode. The man people were thinking was Steve was pretty heavy through the midsection and Steve is not. If you saw him, let me know about what minute mark. Thanks! He was in the motorcycle episodes though, not sure why he was needed there.

Sissy said...

My husband had a heart attack last week. He is alive, though things are very worrisome.

Believe me, I have found out what is important in life. J&K aren't.

Where's Steve? said...

I'm pretty sure it was Steve. Not sure of time cuz I saw it on TV will flipping. They were sitting at table with Emeril, almost done eating, thanking Emeril? & he was behind Kate (far back),in a long sleeved light blue demin shirt taking a picture.

Carol said...

Sissy, My thoughts & prayers are with you & your husband. Please keep us posted as to how he is doing. Take care of yourself too. Be strong.

pressured cooker said...

The best J&K article ever written, by an Elizabethtown neighbor:

http://learningmylines.blogspot.com/2009/06/jon-kate-too-late.html

sherry said...

Long time reader first time poster.

I believe that in the not to distant future the only pictures we will see of Jon & Kate are their "MUG SHOTS"

The bigger they are the harder they fall

I will not be watching tonight, instead I am going to ride my bike around my neighborhood (unless it rains).

savethekids said...

I was just looking at the web site just jared and they have pictures that they say are from today of Kate packing up camping gear and acooler in an SUV they say she is taking the kids camping. But we allknow that she isn't taking the kids camping. Maybe the nanny is taking them camping or she is donating the equipment somewhere. That SUV isn't holding all the kids and her what happened to the Blue Van they never use that anymore to take the kids places. They seem to use a different car or SUV everytime they go out.

zoey said...

i wonder why kate or Jon want a new kitchen for the mansion... Neither of them live there.
(they are just visitors)

If THIS Doesn't Twist Your Heart said...

Excerpt from fidosmommy's comment about the kids looking back: "My life was my job, my job was my life. My house was my office, my office was my house. My siblings were my co-workers, my co-workers were my siblings. My vacations were work, my work was often in vacation spots. What's real and what isn't? Was I anything besides a circus pony? I did my tricks, I learned my lines, and still my family broke up. What did I do wrong, Doctor?"
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Man, what a post! Excellent comments; insightful. Thank you. You said what so many of us think and described how we feel. Bravo. Poor kids. No wonder several of them look cranky all the time. Their life must be so confusing. Childhood is maybe the only time in one's life to be truly carefree. They've been robbed.

I Will Not Be Powerless said...

Concerned Mom said...
I took the show off my DVR series recording list last night. I feel better.
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Maybe it doesn't make a difference but it sure feels empowering, doesn't it? It's about making a statement; taking a stand in one of few ways we can against what is unjust in our world. It is so much more than a television in a family room. I totally understand how you feel.

Do The Right Thing said...

From fidosmommy: "If the children ever express concern that they were never really loved for who they were, this GWoP site will be assurance that they were. The world is not all filled with people who are here to use you, make money off of you or broadcast your most embarrassing moments. The world has some nice, caring, concerned people in it who wanted you to have a normal life. Please believe that, dear children."
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When I saw that tabloid photo of Jon walking in the country, hand-in-hand with Mady, backs to the camera, I thought, wow, if that could just be the closing credits for the show's finale...Dad with his daughter, having a talk and taking a walk, no cameras, no gossip; just walk away, Jon...tuck your kids under your arms and take them away from all this, please...

a rose is a rose said...

Something struck me. Could it be that TLC is keeping Kate and Jon very sheltered and telling them not to read ANY magazines or watch much tv. The way it looks, they are so out of touch and in the dark as to what is said about them and the show, Kate sounds like it was 3 years ago when people were actually interested in them. What's up with that. They act oblivious to life going on around them.

Not all yours, Kate said...

I had an idea. I am sure that some of the 'love offerings' were made by donators that paid with a check.
That is proof that they have made a donation. So Kate should get off her high horse. Anger enough people, just like she's doing, and all of a sudden those checks become mighty handy to the gov't.

Emma said...

I agree with the posters who say Kevin and Jodi are only speaking out in the best interest of the kids. The only thing I have a problem with is their timing. I don't think they should have gone on TV only days before J&K+8 was to continue. However, this could be because no one would invite them on their show until the hype began again... I don't know.

DownTheShoreMom said...

Jon & Kate think that they are above it all and that nothing can touch them. That's why they do what they do and don't appear to suffer any consequences or don't appear to care. They figure that they can do what they want and people will watch anyway. It's all about the ratings and the money. Karma is a bitch though and their time will come and when it does they will be surprised because in their minds they're doing "all for the kids"....

Take Off The Blinders said...

Emma said...
I agree with the posters who say Kevin and Jodi are only speaking out in the best interest of the kids. The only thing I have a problem with is their timing. I don't think they should have gone on TV only days before J&K+8 was to continue. However, this could be because no one would invite them on their show until the hype began again... I don't know.
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I interpreted the timing as a heads-up to not watch as the August 3 date loomed. They were trying to cut it off at the pass, so to speak, or at least tell old viewers (sheeple) and new viewers (curious from all the tabloid coverage) the real skinny, i.e. don't believe what your watching is truth if you tune in to the new episodes. See the show for what it really is but please, then, turn the channel.

Another home for Kate said...

On the E! station they have reported that the Maryland condo was confirmed to have been purchased by Kate and is ONE BLOCK from Steve's home. Kate was told to keep it quiet for the time being, since her divorce will be final by September. They are 2 sickening people.

marylou said...

The Maryland condo is one block for Steve's OFFICE, not his home. His home is about 4-5 miles from there.

a rose is a rose said...

Did anyone hear about last night ratings? That should be very telling.

jen said...

CNN Poll: Should J&K be cancelled?

90% say yes

aldergator said...

Just saw Regis and Kelly this morning and Kelly said Kate would be on the show Thursday. Nobody applauded. Hopefully America has had enough of the evil one and her soon to be ex-husband!

lukebandit said...

i wish that i could be in the audience of regis and kelly when kate makes her appearance.
i feel so bad for steve's wife and his children. to give up something so precious for something so vicious, well, money is the root of all evil.
sick, sick, sick!

Melody said...

Have the ratings been posted yet. I think if they had been fantastic ratings, they would have already been posted.

Becky Q in PA said...

I asked this in the other thread, but should've put it here: Ravello said...
Ryan Secrest does gossip updates on his radio show...He also said their fast track divorce will be final by September.


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Wait a second! Do we know who the judge is? I think we should be imploring the judge to appoint a guardian ad litem for the children. We have a unique opportunity, since a matter involving the children is before the court : the divorce!

If they slip the divorce/custody agreements in "under the radar." we'll have missed the opportunity to have the courts intervene for the best interests of the children.

If anyone has any info, I'd appreciate your sharing it!

Not a fan of either said...

I, too, saw on E news last night that the Maryland condo was indeeed purchased by Kate. They said that TLC were the ones who tried to squelch that story. I am ever amazed at what liars TLC are and what lengths they will go to for their cash cow. And I mean that literally!

ManicNarcissism said...

I can't believe this divorce is happening so quickly. How is that happening? From everyone's personal experiences here it was going to take 1-2 years and now it only takes from 2-3 months?

Also, what is Kate getting out of fast track divorce? She must not be putting up much of a fight.

NO ratings? said...

No ratings from last night posted anywhere. How good can it be?

Erica.In.TN said...

this was on thedailybeast.com. So kates attitude is infamous enough to make it onto a political website.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-06-07/kate-gosselins-top-10-angry-moments/?cid=hp:beastoriginalsC2

Invited again said...

Why in the world would Regis and Kelly want 'Kate the has been' on their show to begin with? She is yesterday's news. WHY oh why do these shows feel compelled to have her? She brings absolutly NOTHING to the table, nothing of any benefit to anyone, yet they still inflate her ego. Its sick.

Cheetah said...

I just watched Jon's rebuttal about Kevin and Jodi. He made sure to mention that the kids have accounts and that he and Kate are contributing to these accounts. This makes it sound like he does not consider the money to belong to the kids to begin with. He and Kate are just generously contributing some of their money to the kids. I'm certain that it is far, far less than 10% per child.

TUNDRA said...

Jon is being crucified by the tabloids. Does he have a publicist or not? If so, he needs to ask for a refund because he is not getting his money worth. Kate is looking like the victim of a philandering, lazy, emotionally immature, greedy husband when we know neither one of them is a saint.

Hmm said...

marylou said...
The Maryland condo is one block for Steve's OFFICE, not his home. His home is about 4-5 miles from there.

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Great location for a mid-day quickie, or easy to drop by before he heads home to his wife and kids. Disgusting. You know the move is for him. There is no other reason for her to move to Rockville!

These people are pathetic. Every last one of them.

Gosselin Kids all the way said...

I had a good laugh today because I'm excited that I can dress up as Kate for Halloween. Check out the picture from US magazine. Can't wait to try out the new do!

http://www.usmagazine.com/news/for-sale-kate-gosselin-wigs-200938?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily

TUNDRA said...

There hadn’t been a new episode of Jon & Kate Plus 8 since June 22 when the pair announced they were divorcing and based on the ratings for Monday night’s return on TLC, there was a lot of pent-up interest in tumultuous life of Jon and Kate Gosselin.

Four million viewers tuned in for the new 9 PM episode and 4.2 million for the new 9:30 PM show.

radaronline.com

time2saybyebyeQFI said...

Just saw Regis and Kelly this morning and Kelly said Kate would be on the show Thursday. Nobody applauded. Hopefully America has had enough of the evil one and her soon to be ex-husband!

Even Regis's fill in co host expressed an 'I could care less' opinion about Kate Gosselin . So much so, that Kelly's attempt at TLC 'ass kissing' and her announcement that Kate Gosselin will appear as a guest consisted all of less than 30 seconds.

Amy said...

Lots of viewers of last night's show..4.3 million people..I am very disappointed so many tuned in

CherryCheeseKate said...

REGARDING RATINGS OF LAST NIGHT'S EPISODES:
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[From The Baltimore Sun's Entertainment Section]

Jon & Kate: Ratings dive, but audience is still big
The return of "Jon & Kate Plus 8" Monday drew less than half the audience of the season opener in May -- 4.1 million viewers vs. 9.8 million.

But by the standards of basic cable TV, 4.1 million viewers is still a very large audience. And analysts say anything over 2 million viewers with solid female demographics will keep the show in profit.

At 4 million, "Jon & Kate" is still a moneymaker for TLC.

Monday's two episodes averaged about 1.8 million women 18 to 49 and 25 to 54 years-of-age. Again, for cable that is an audience advertisers are sure to find attractive.

Thougts2Ponder said...

radar online said the ratings were over 4 million...up from the regular shows but not as high as the divorce announcement one...........well maybe next week we can hope others avoid the show after seeing how poor the ones last night were.

NT said...

Radar on line says the ratings were 4.2

fedup said...

Ratings were announced on Radar online...4 million watched! 1/2 as many the second episode... guess we saw the beach already!!
Damn to many people watched this disaster!! Wonderful news for the kids.
I saw online a piece.. did anyone catch the kids when they entered the tent .. they were on the side and they sounded like they delivered lines..
This is Never going to stop!

mykidsmom said...

If I were TLC and Jon and Kate, I would not crow too much over these ratings. Only 4 million after all these months of drama and tabloid press? And with last last night's episodes as beyond boring? I anticipate a huge drop in ratings.

Sara said...

How can Jon look himself in the mirror?? I mean he claims he is putting his kids first and misses them so much when he is away trying desperately to fit in with Z-listers..yet when he is at the 'kids' home..he is out drinking in a bar until 3 am and bringing home one of the waitresses to sleep over?? I wish a police officer had been on hand to pull them over at 3am to see if they were drinking and driving! I truly would not put that kind of irresponsible behaviour past Jon considering he is acting like such an immature fool. I would not be surprised to see him out at his fence handing out roses to the awestruck women who stop by to get within a few feet of his irresistible presence! Who is looking after the kids while Jon is out drinking? How disgusting that he is showing such an extreme lack of judgement. So, Hailey and Kate 2.0..what do you think of your Romeo's latest antics?? Shame on you Jon..run a few laps around that huge property of yours and try to lose that beer gut!

Go away Jon said...

Oh my, I am fighting the strong wave of nausea I felt when seeing a photo of Jon on Radar playing with his phone while lifting his shirt up for a pap shot..Kate's tummy looked better than his prior to her surgery..this guy is seriously gross and needs to keep that big buddha belly covered up..maybe the obvious attention he i drawing to himself is his way of looking for a free personal trainer?

BarbMae said...

Radar ONline has the pics of the overnight babysitter peeking her head out in the wee morning hours. Of course Jon hired her as the kid's babysitter and that is why she was sitting at his table in the club and then went home with him to "finish" babysitting the kids. Now what is wrong with that?? IMO, Let's see she was babysitting Jon at the club and then did bedtime duty w/Jon in his apartment above the garage while the "not-a-nanny" was taking care of the kids in the other part of the mansion. 4M viewers is not that much and from all accounts the episodes were pretty boring. I watched only a snippet the first 5 min. but was Steve in any of the filming in Carolina and was his face blurred out? Their viewership will go down even further next week. As I posted in the renovations section I think that Kate was suppose to get her cooking show when her book came out but with all the bad press it has been put on hold. Kelly and her husband I think were going to produce it. That is why I think Kelly is having Kate on Thursday and I met the co-host will be Kelly's husband Mark. Just my opinion.

grannyoftwo said...

already sent my email to Regis and Kelly letting them know how much respect I did have for them but not any more. And letting them know how ashamed I am that they are giving Kate yet another avenue to spill her lies of doing it all for the children once again. When we americans are not that stupid anymore and can see with our own eyes who is gaining all the benefits from it. And that now I see that Kelly wants to gain some off the backs of the tups also. I did respect her as a mother once upon a time. In a fairy tale I suppose.

MayDay said...

Just sent his letter to Kelly Ripa's inbox..
Dear Kelly and Gelman,
Why would have Kate Gosselin on your show next Thursday? Kelly you said that you find her fascinating, why because she is badly raising 8 children? Think again Kelly if you think she and Jon are doing it by themselves. Kelly, you appear to be a loving, kind and supportive parent who respects their children's privacy. Why would you encourage a mother who clearly exploits her kids to be on your show and exploit the situation even more? Even if the kids will not be on, why would you have a guest who has not been kind to her husband and kids? (Before you argue, the proof is in the tapes of the show) Just because science made 6 babies for her, she should be glorified with all this fame? I am a real mother who has raised daughters and along with my husband takes care of our special needs wheel bound chair son with cerebral palsy 24/7 without any outside help. No one is praising us for this but why is everyone praising Kate for raising 8 kids? It was her choice!! Your show is continuing to help make a woman famous who clearly hasn’t any talent but to carry six babies in her womb. I have been a long time viewer of Regis and Kelly/ Regis and Kathy Lee, but if this woman is on your show, it will be the last time I will watch it. I will take if off my DVR. Kelly, is this now because you have a show on TLC and must support those on the same network even though it is obvious what they are doing is wrong? I did not think that the Live with Regis and Kelly show would do anything for rating....apparently I was wrong. My advice to you is to rethink this. Just viewing your show on DVR and the reaction that the audience gave when you announced Kate would be on your show was less than enthusiastic – maybe this is a sign that we are really not interested in seeing her on your show. Your show is great but do not bring it down with a poor choice of guests.

TLC = To Lie Constantly said...

I didn't watch & am glad I didn't. A coworker came in today & she was fuming! She watched. She was so mad. SHe said "How stupid does TLC think we are? We saw the pics of Kate & Steve at the beach yet they blur him out driving the golf cart,nowhere to be seen. Kate allll alone". Happy Happy Joy Joy. Tho we know Mady went home after seeing Kate & Steve kiss. Also, where were the dogs during camping? In crates? I know TLC reads this site. I've read & heard too many coincidences. Bibs gone, Kate mentioned putting Aaden's first glasses in his "Memory Box", playing "Hide Steve", Kate being so cheerful & all about the kids. Mentioning using laundry sink to do dishes. Showing the pool finally. Hey TLC, we are very aware of all your lies & cover-ups & damage control. The kids are over acting now & not so flattering. Not buying it, not watching. I know it'll end soon at the rate it's going.

Becky Q in PA said...

OMG, I had no idea Kelly Ripa was involved in producing reality TV for TLC, but you're right--she is.

No wonder she's willing to promote the exploitation of the Gosselin children: it must be standard in the TLC contracts that their employees leave their morals at the door.

I'm so sick of these sneaky behind-the-scenes relationships that are being used to promote Kate. People continue to watch because they--most of them, IMO--have no idea what's really going on, or else choose to believe the skewed "Kate's-a-martyr" picture the magazines, tabloids, and "news" sources are selling. So much for journalism.

Melody said...

US Magazine said it was 61% drop in ratings. It will drop more next week.

http://www.usmagazine.com/news/jon-and-kate-ratings-drop-61-percent-after-hiatus-200948

Miranda said...

Here is the direct link to complain about Spray 'N Wash advertising during J&K.

http://www.spraynwash.com/contact_form_c.html

a rose is a rose said...

This evening on the Entertainment channel they had Jon speaking and they were also quoting him. He said he's "tired" of being the bad guy. "Kate came to me in the fall and said we're over, done, I'll go MY way and you go YOURS. I said WHAT?? I was shocked." (end quote)
He will be on the cover this week of a magazine (didn't see which it was too quick) but the heading said "I'm tired of being blamed"
and Jon's photo featured. I said to myself, interesting, this is all going to explode, its starting to come out little by little, and watch, Kevin/Jodi will be proven to be 100% correct and truthful.

Sara said...

Excellent post MayDay..I so agree with what you wrote in your email to Kelly Ripa..I will not be watching the show ever again if Kate's appearance is not cancelled. Khate truly needs to be humiliated and get a clear message that the public does NOT want to see her

Ladylou said...

Does anyone know what happened to Table for Twelve?
I wasn't really impressed with it but I don't think it's on anymore.
Do you guys have any information on it?

Mia said...

That's interesting that Jon is whining about being perceived as the bad guy. As far as I am concerned he has brought it all on himself with his immature, embarrassing behaviour. He is only confirming what Kevin and Jodi have said previously about Kate telling him their marriage was over. In my view, he owes Kevin and Jodi a big apology for treating them like distant aquaintances instead of concerned relatives. At least they cared enough to speak out. There is no excuse for Jon's behaviour after his marriage ended. He used it as an excuse to regain his lost youth and pathetically act like a player. He has embarrassed his kids with his playboy antics and the public scrutiny that followed. I lost all respect for Jon after viewing his Radar online interview where he basically gave the middle finger to the public and Kevin and Jodi with his 'stop interfering' insult. I have seen a different side to Jon which is not at all appealing. His arrogance and greed in that interview really smacks of selfishness and immaturity. He had the option to attempt to stop the show after his marriage ended but instead he shoed his true colors and has tried to cash in on his infamy and he is not willing to give up the money and freebies that exploiting his kids bring him..for a guy that hated public attention and whined that he felt like he was in prison..he sure does love posing in his yard, exposing his unflattering belly, wearing straw hats with a goofy smirk on his face, puffing away on cigs etc. He is very friendly with the paps because sadly they are probably the only 'friends' he has (Other than attention seekers like CA and Lohan) Its a little too late for Jon to be revealing the truth..again, there is no excuse for his behaviour

The Low Class Network said...

I just wanted to say that I really enjoy this site and it makes me hopeful to see so many other like minded individuals voicing their dislike for this program. I hope that eventually sanity will prevail and the show will be taken off the air. I also wanted to mention that I think it's great that there is a spot on the site showing pictures of missing children. I've never seen one on any other sites and it just seems like a great idea - you never know who might see a picture and recognize a missing child. Keep up the great work. I'm glad that even w/ the popularity of the show dying down (thank god!) that there is still a place to make a statement until the show is canceled!

Becky Q in PA said...

If Regis and Kelly don't cancel Kate's appearance next Thursday, I sure hope the audience boos her! (Gee, wonder how you get tickets?)

When I went to the link to complain, I saw that if you leave your phone number, they might call you during the show. Too bad they wouldn't call one of us. (I didn't leave my number because I'd too apoplectic to talk).

Sara said...

Good grief..Jon tells In Touch magazine that if he does marry Hailey and his kids ask about her drug use and shadt past that he will tell them yes she did do those things and if they have any questions about it he will tell them to 'go ask her'.....are you kidding Jon?!! What an immature way to handle a very complex situation if it were to occur! He basically passes off the difficult task of being a responsible parent and explain the ugly truth and puts it to Hailey to explain to the kids instead?? Nice way to avoid a very awkward situation..this guy is so spineless and immature it is unbelievable!

konhasyoufooled said...

a rose is a rose said...

This evening on the Entertainment channel they had Jon speaking and they were also quoting him. He said he's "tired" of being the bad guy. "Kate came to me in the fall and said we're over, done, I'll go MY way and you go YOURS. I said WHAT?? I was shocked." (end quote)
He will be on the cover this week of a magazine (didn't see which it was too quick) but the heading said "I'm tired of being blamed"
and Jon's photo featured. I said to myself, interesting, this is all going to explode, its starting to come out little by little, and watch, Kevin/Jodi will be proven to be 100% correct and truthful.
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I saw that too and I am pretty sure it was In Touch mag. I looked it up right away and he was on the cover and I thought yep,,,Kevin and Jody were right all along. Funny thing is I checked it out this morn and can't find it anywhere. ODD

Ms.Peach said...

Baltimore Sun article said:

"... industry analysts predict that Jon & Kate Plus 8 will have no trouble finding advertisers as long as TLC can produce a reasonably credible version of a family in the process of separation and divorce. The reason for that: The show's audience was so large by the standards of basic cable during the past season that even if one-third or one-half return, the show will be profitable."

DON'T WATCH. Your cable or satellite providers monitor your viewing habits and therefore what advertising you are exposed to. The advertisers are the key here to getting the show off the air.

sherry said...

Mia


Well said. ITA with you. I used to be on "Team Jon" but not anymore.

redskiesatnight said...

In a recent magazine interview Jon said Kate came to him LAST October wanting out of the marriage. Wasn't J & K's vow renewal last October? Didn't TLC promote ad nauseum the particular season as 'It's A Beautiful Life' with promo footage of J & K happily walking arm in arm in color coordinated outfits? Most certainly J & K, and without a doubt TLC as well, were quite aware of the liklihood that the Gosselin marriage was not going to survive the year but yet spent thousands of dollars to sponsor, promote and portray J & K as a happily married and devoted couple so much so that they felt it necessary to invite a television viewing audience to witness their vow renewal ceremony.
J & K with the help of TLC managed to pull off quite the 'beautiful lie'. My question is who were they trying to fool? Themselves? The viewers? The eight Gosselin children? The sponsors and advertisers? GOD ?? It is said that the 'cover up' is often worse than the 'crime'. IMO, while what J & K (and TLC) did with respect to the scam of the vow renewal may not be criminal in nature, the 'cover up' most definitely calls in to question the moral ethics of all those involved. I wont even get on my soap box about the child exploitation aspect of it all.

Cant afford to give up walmart said...

Hi, Does anyone know if all healthtex clothes now have Kate's picture on them? Are they all off limits and designed by her? Or is it just select items to avoid?

Do you think the scrapped the summer items and quitely slipped out the fall things with no promos so they didn't have to send those to Indonesia, too?

Tami said...

From Jon's Radar interview:

"Kate and I's number one priority are our kids."

Nine words - two grammatical errors. This guy's a genius.

1) I's????? 2) "# one priority are"....??? A priority is a singular, not a plural.

This is appalling. Uneducated people who butcher the English language don't belong on TV where they have the power to pollute the language skills of others.

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I hate it with a passion when people say things like ___ and I's!!! I was just commenting to my daughter last night how so many people butcher the I and me sentences. I had heard someone on our soap saying ___and I in a sentence that was supposed to have me instead. My daughter wants to teach English and she's still a little grammatically challenged and doesn't always know when you should use one and not the other. But Kate and I's? @@ (eye roll)

Tami said...

Okay here's a thought. After reading the article on Jon where he is dissing Jodi and Kevin, I was thinking. Do you think that this whole thing with Jon and Kate is a sham. Do you think it was just a way to get two shows and double the money? Think about it. He wants to get a show of his own.
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Just read the online article about the In Touch story he just did. Nice try, Jon! He says the same thing Jodi and Kevin said! He told how Kate came to him and said the marriage is over. So why did he recently tell the paps that they don't know what they are talking about and he is not close to them? He is such a liar! He confided in them and now he pretends otherwise.

Hate Kate said...

This is a post from Perezhilton.com. Who is Khate's PR agent? This is clearly a planted story to remake over Khate's image in anticipation of her solo career. Unlike Jon, Kate has enough self control to hold off on any antics or bad behavior in order to come out looking like a saint.

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Guess she's not the hard ass we thought she was!!!

Kate Gosselin has been through hell and back since splitting with her husband and raising eight children seemingly alone, but now we finally get deets on how she really feels.

Jamie Ayers, Kate's best friend, dishes to Life & Style about Kate's life and struggles without Jon.

“It was good for her — she’s lonely now that Jon’s gone,” says Ayer of her visit to the mother of eight.

Although, Kate has no time to take pity on herself. Jamie adds, “Kate’s trying to do more than be just a mom. The kind of stuff Jon would've done. She wants to be well-rounded for the kids. Everything Kate does she does for the kids.”

And the eight kiddies are said to be doing great despite the hardship of not having their dad nearby. Jamie reveals, “They’re doing remarkably well. I’m so impressed. They’re awesome kids.”

It's coping with life as a single mother that has been the greatest challenge for Kate, but nonetheless, she soldiers on.

Jamie continues, “Getting the kids around by herself is proving to be difficult. She’s getting so much better. I was over there just last week, and I can tell. She’s saying things like, ‘I have to do it, I don’t have a choice.’”

Plus, don't expect Kate to emulate Jon's whoring ways!!!

As for dating, “Kate says it’s not something she’d ever consider doing before the divorce is final. Even then, I don’t foresee it being a priority for her. Her goal is supporting her kids.”

As it should be!!!

Tami said...

So Jon "runs into" one pap (since when have you ever seen only one by himself) who doesn't ask a single question about the girlfriends but grills him on child labor practices? This whole interview is either a TLC or a PR set-up from the first word.

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It seems real to me. I've seen them alone before. Maybe he's particulary persistent. I am glad he grilled them about the kids. At least someone cares about them! Maybe the guy realizes the girlfriend thing is getting old. Let's put the focus on what this does to the kids. Smart guy!

Tami said...

I wish Can-Do-New-Attitude-Kate wouldn't jut out her jaw to expose her bottom teeth (in the 'heroic Kate builds a free tent' promo).

This - plus the sight of her reverse mullet hairdo and fake boobs - makes me want to rip out my eyeballs.

Her teeth whitening was a freebie, so she can't get a refund, but her teeth look grey and fake.

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LOL. I saw the commercial several times with her making that bulldog face. My son and I did not find it attractive at all. I can't see how putting up one of those lame tents warrants such a response. I used to put up the little bed tents all the time with the sticks that you loop through like that tent. It is NOT difficult! She is so lame.

Tiger Lily said...

I'm not in advertising, but do the companies such as Target, Verizon buy chunks of time to advertise on The Lying Channel? Can they say they do not want their commercials airing during "J&K+8" but air during "The Little Couple"? If this is correct, then instead of boycotting all companies who have commercials airing during the Kon and Fake + 8 show, can we just boycott those who knowingly contribute to the greed and exploitation of the kids? For example, Juicy Juicy, Coleman, Hershey?

emptynesterof3 said...

I have some suggestions for contacting the companies you wish to boycott for advertising/sponsoring. I've been in marketing/advertising for 25 years and the following will help, I'll explain below:

Please list the following on your communications to these companies - at the top of your communication - listed below each other as i have:

1) Date of show
2) Channel Name
3) Time slot
4) Name of show
5) Demographic(s) you/your family represent

Reasons in paragraph form.

I will try to make this brief, I have so many opinions/feelings about the show, but i will keep this post to the point. Most (not all) companies place their ads the year previous. Many of the decisions to place advertising are based on numbers and data (although if they are a good marketing person/dept, they check out who they are advertising with to make sure the demographic fits who they are targeting). Last year this show did seem more innocent. Also I'm pretty sure TLCs ad rates were very appealing.

The reason I've suggested the approach above is that with this economy, even the larger companies probably have less people doing all the work. It will make the person's job who has to monitor this communication easier and more efficient (especially if it is not something they usually do). Larger companies will not notice if there are only a few consumer complaints - they get these all the time. We want to make sure they notice it's for the same channel and the same reasons. If they receive enough of them, it will indeed make a difference. Also, some companies have contracts they cannot get out of without losing that money...just keep that in mind. Happy contacting!

Yolanda said...

jen said: CNN Poll: Should J&K be cancelled?

90% say yes

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Yet 4 million people watched! Go figure!

Don't smile for me said...

Someone was right on the money about Kate jutting out her lower jaw and showing her teeth. In psychological terms that 'body language' is a sign thats hiding a far bigger agenda. Its pretending to be friendly, but really hiding deep seated anger. Its a passive-agressive gesture. She is not a stable woman. And no, its not smiling to show happiness, its trying hard NOT to show her REAL self.

Ravello said...

This may be old news, I've been away from the blog for a few days. Kelly Ripa announced Kate is on the Live show next week. Kelly was gushing about how excited it would be to see Kate again.
This totally disgusted me. Why is Live with Regis and Kelly hosting a guest who is exploiting 8 kids?
I wrote a few protest letters via the Live web site, asking they reconsider this guest appearance.

This link worked for me, go to the menu bar at the top, click help and contact us. A very convenient pop up box appears and I was able to send some lengthy letters of concern.
http://bventertainment.go.com/tv/buenavista/regisandkelly/index.html

Barb said...

If anyone is following the couple in Texas that are expecting sextuplets, they were born last night. They are in stable but critical condition.

http://stanseljourney.blogspot.com/

No TLC 4 Me said...

Tami said...Just read the online article about the In Touch story he just did. Nice try, Jon! He says the same thing Jodi and Kevin said! He told how Kate came to him and said the marriage is over. So why did he recently tell the paps that they don't know what they are talking about and he is not close to them? He is such a liar! He confided in them and now he pretends otherwise.

The truth is coming out alright! I think Jon was fine with Kevin and Jodi talking about Kate ending the marriage and their secret contract.

What I took away from his recent interview with the paps was that he didn't like that they voiced their concerns about the show. That threatens his income and that's why he was trying to discredit them.

I also thought it was laughable that he said something like they were only in the first to seasons. Does he forget that they had a life BEFORE the show? Kevin and Jodi were a big part of their lives long before there was a show.

I also felt like he was trying to say that they don't know what is going on with the show because they haven't been involved since the 1st 2 seasons. They voiced their concerns back then, and that's when the seasons were only 8-12 episodes. They KNOW first-hand what it takes to film an episode. Now the seasons consist of 40 episodes!

I have no doubt that they know what they're talking about, and that their concerns are very real!

Ms.Peach said...

Ravello said...
This may be old news, I've been away from the blog for a few days. Kelly Ripa announced Kate is on the Live show next week. Kelly was gushing about how excited it would be to see Kate again.

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Kelly Ripa and her husband were on Larry King tonight and they are involved with a new show they created for TLC. See the connection? Kelly is a TLC mouthpiece.

Tami said...

He was even helping Jon by making the comment that the kids seem to be having a good time while being filmed. Did you also notice how Jon takes his time getting in the car. He opens the door and stands around taking things out of his pocket and hesitating before getting in. It's like he was just waiting around for the attention.
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The paps do talk like to people quite often! I have heard them do that to Kate too. They play the good guy so people will talk to them more. If they are too nasty they won't get any answers so they kiss their butt. Also, of course Jon is going to wait around for attention. Both he and Hate do this. She camps out in the driveway and goes to the UPS when she can get PA's to do it and Jon hangs on the fence waiting for attention. They will take ANY attention they can get!

MayDay said...

Just heard the announcement that Kate will be on the Today show on Monday and Live with Regis and Kelly on Thursday. I am sure that she will "pop" up somewhere else on Tuesday and Wednesday. She has gotten right back on the band wagon and is getting herself out there. I hope Meridith continues to ask the tough questions like she did before. I am so disappointed in Kelly Ripa "gushing" over Kate. It is like she is infatuated with her or something. It is really making Kelly look bad.

Kelly And Kate, Ah What A Pair said...

From MayDay: I am so disappointed in Kelly Ripa "gushing" over Kate. It is like she is infatuated with her or something. It is really making Kelly look bad.
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Well, isn't she gushing over Kate because just before things got so very sordid in the news with the Gosselins, Kelly Ripa was cooking up some kind of show for or with Kate? I'm sure that was mentioned here. As always, it's money. People are trying to find a way to make money here.

I quit watching Regis when Kelly Ripa became his co-host.

Ms.Peach said...

Jamie Ayers, Kate's best friend, dishes to Life & Style about Kate's life and struggles without Jon.
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Who is this sudden "best friend" of Kate's?

marypoppins said...

MayDay said...
I hope Meridith continues to ask the tough questions like she did before. I am so disappointed in Kelly Ripa "gushing" over Kate. It is like she is infatuated with her or something. It is really making Kelly look bad.
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On the Dr Phil show on Octomom, kate was invited as an authority of multiples. She stated that she and Jon were prepared for up to Quads.

I would like a real news reporter to ask her if her husband was without a job, no money for heat etc etc.. how on earth were they planning to take care of 2 two year olds AND up to 4 babies- who could have been disabled blind etc?

marlee said...

I swear I just saw pictures of Steve Neild acting as bodyguard to Kim Kardashian. Here's the link:

http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/37958014.html

Is it him????

sherry said...

So Kate is going to be making her rounds on the talk shows ("Regis & Kelly; Today) with her pity party.

I do believe the "mud slinging" is about to began.

These two are just TOO STUPID

MBach said...

One of the upcoming August 17th charades of Jon&kate+8 is titled Battleships & Barbers.

I remember that some of the news clips shown of kate/Hate during the divorce announcement news in May were of her and the kids onboard a battleship. She was sitting at some piece of military gear with one of the boys (don't know which one, maybe Colin) on her lap, and there was some wheel or handle that they kept turning. The entertainment news programs used that shot over and over. kate/Hate was doing that open mouth heehaw over the boy's shoulder. Ugh! She is so Look At Me.

I thought at the time that TLC was sitting her up to appear as the great and suffering mother of the year.

If I am remembering that correctly, then when have they ever stopped filming?

Warning to Others LOL said...

Marlee, That man is not Steve Neild with Kim Kardashian. He is way to old & has WHITE hair. Not Mr. Gray. But gotta tell you, I was mortified. I typed in the website you gave but didn't put in the numbers & up popped pics of Brittney Spears private parts. I was shocked. Boy, can you see EVERTHING. Had heard about them a long time ago (they are from Nov.)but never saw them. I clasped my hand over my mouth. I was so shocked. I finally found the pics of Kim K. on Just Jared.

Kathryn said...

I just read that Khate was lunching with her girls at a restaurant in Florida and snapped at some fans asking for her autograph.
Whoa, talk about biting the hand that feeds you....

Anne said...

So what happened to Beth? I know Kevin and Jodi have been kicked to the curb, but what about Kate's BFF - Beth? I've tried searching Google, but can't find anything definitive. Is she still involved? The kids sure loved her and her kids. I hope they haven't lost her as they did Kevin, Jodi and their cousins.

Laurie said...

You're right Tami, I used to put up that little tent bed for my son but I'd forgotten about it. It was not a difficult task at all. Also, I've got an English Bulldog and he looks much better than Kate with his teeth jutting out!

Cheesecake? said...

WHEN are the Sheeple going to wise up? I mean, I know they are related to boxes of many rocks but.....this latest B**chy behavior of Hate's at the "cheesecake factory"? (what the heck is that anyway?) Well if Sheeple will ALLOW themselves to be treated that way, then they deserve what they get. IMO
"You teach people how to treat you." Yes, Pseudo-Doc Phil says that (or copied it), but it's really true.
Hate's fans are so dumb, they will allow Hate to stomp on their heads and then write the word "Welcome" on it.

John and Kate who cares said...

I agree with another posted who said they would like to see Khate answer the tough questions. How would she answer the some of the following questions. How would you and Jon be supporting your 8 children now if it wasn't for a TV show? Would you expect the state to support them, As you did when they were born? Would you still be petitioning the state for an additional year of paid nursing support? If you couldn't financially support multiple children then why did you go against the doctor's suggestion of waiting when he said your ovaries were over stimulated, knowing full well this would result in multiple births ? Did you just expect other people, tax payer's (state services) to provide for them? Now that you have become financially "better off" by having a TV show, which only resulted because of your children, do you ever feel morally obligated in helping others less fortunate than you? When the show comes to an end, which it will, how do you expect to support 8 children since you appear to be spending your children's money as though it is an unlimited supply? Is the state suppose to step in an help you out again? Why do you consider yourself and act like a "celebrity" when in actuality all you are is a mother who is (pretending) raising a large family? What makes you so unique? Why do you come across as feeling entitled? How is traveling around the country doing speaking engagements, book signings and tv interviews spending quality time with your children? How is this documenting their childhood?

Sorry for the rant and long post. But just once I wish someone would conduct a REAL interview instead of pimping out and playing up to this woman.

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