Free Discussion 7/4 - 7/10

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mom-of-one said...

I just saw another aerial view of their house. I forgot about the pool?!?!?

Granted, watching 8 kids at a pool while doing this "all by yourself" might be sketchy. But wouldn't those kids want to be in the pool ALL THE TIME instead of playing out front of the house on the concrete driveway?

Oh, but wait, the pool is surrounded by trees so the p-people can't take pics of us. And the expensive 'crooked houses' are also in the trees so we can't play in those either. Well hey, those houses were fun for those 10 hours we were filming that episode, right?

Sara said...

Please be careful using Facebook. If you use your true identity there, any unscrupulous person can join the group and have full access to the private details of your life, (that you have on facebook.)

Trust me on this one: This battle being waged against Kate and Jon for exploiting their children is costing them, and TLC some very big bucks right now.

Don't give TLC and Kate's lawyers your personal information.

Mary said...

Sara...I wrote emails to TLC how can TLC or Kate's attorney do anything the people who are concerned for the 8 kids.

I contacted my attorney and she said it was fine to have an opinion. Please share what you know.

Canadian Mom said...

Thank you for taking the time to write us. Healthtex is committed tomaking well-made children's clothing that is fashionable, priced rightand wearable for almost any occasion. Our customers are really importantto us. We appreciate the feedback. - The Healthtex Team

The return e-mail I received from Health-Tex. Hey, at least I tried...

Janina said...

Sara (or anyone else if Sara's not available): Can I confirm that even if your Facebook profile is private, when you join a group, does it mean other members of the group can view your full profile? Thanks.

KatyMaxinePitiesKatieIrene said...

First time poster, long time reader here. I wrote to the Cleveland Women's Show and received a reply that while they've had many emails stating concern over Kate's appearance, there's also been many emails staing how happy people were that the SW Show was giving her a chance to tell her story free of paps and cameras. :(

Team Plus 8 said...

The danger of sharing information on Facebook is that malicious people can use that information to harass you for having an opinion about Jon and Kate. I would be mindful of my privacy settings and what I shared.

Riley said...

Since it is the 4th I am making the cake Kate did last year when they were at the beach. You know the stars and stripes one that she 'claimed she came up with by herself'? Yeah right since it is in every magazine before that show. Anyway I let my kids help me and let them eat all the strawberries they wanted. LOL
Also I heard on the news the other day that the company that was going to produce Kate's clothing line has put that on hold. I don't have a link to that but has anyone else heard that? Happy 4th everyone!!

Steph said...

saw miss kate's backside in her blue bikini on the cover of Star magazine...the caption said "Kate plus 8 POUNDS!" LOL

Moons in Leo said...

I just read that Zondervan is not releasing Kate's cookbook as planned. I suspect that it isn't because they discovered that she didn't invent the sandwich, but because you can't sell the divorcing couple as a close-knit Christian family any longer.

Hopefully the golden goose will stop producing for TLC.

blamingoftheshrew said...

In the Frisky: This is funny, true and well written!

Yet Another Gosselin Project Postponed

http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-yet-another-kate-gosselin-project-postponed/

"Why any clothing company would think that because Kate has a bunch of kids, she has the fashion sense to design clothes for them (come on, look at that hair) is beyond me. And it seems Healthtex clothes may feel the same way…"

Wyomissing Neighbor said...

mom-of-one is right. The house has a pool, but you can't see it from the road. Kate used to take the kids swimming in the pool in the development where my mom lives (Spring Ridge). No lifeguard, and all the kids wore life jackets, so Kate knows how to handle it. And the way she dresses to go shopping, dresses and heels, is soooo look-at-me and not normal for Berks County. She's just addicted to the attention.

Bev said...

I think Jon and Kate's 15 minutes of fame are used up. When you go to the grocery store and get to the check-out and see Kate all over the magazines it just makes you shake your head in disgust. I think to myself "What a waste...she could have had all she needed to make her family comfortable for life and then some" but instead she was greedy and needy and lost it all. That's exactly what happened. All of Kate's complaints about Jon centered around him not meeting HER needs. He didn't do enough to help HER. He didn't support HER. She needed more attention than he was giving. I personally was quite amazed and impressed with all the things Jon DID do for her and the kids. He was above average IMO as far as being involved and being patient with her moodiness. Now that his patience is all used up and he's finally said "Enough!" she is going to need that attention from somewhere else..and that would explain the tabloids and magazine covers. People magazine in particular. I have the feeling that Kate will be unable to re-invent herself so easily. The entire draw of the show was watching her attack Jon. For her to try to throw Jon under the bus just makes people angry. I hope the ratings continue to decline so that these children have a shot at a normal life. If Kate gets all crazy and drags Jon through an ugly divorce all that will do is use up all their money and then what? They'll be broke and unpopular. What a way to provide for your children.

fidosmommy said...

I feel like I've been watching a 3 year marathon of "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?". The longer the contestants keep going, the more they stand to lose in the end. Most end up losing before they reach the grand prize.

Jon and Kate could have stopped at the $32,000 level, but they just kept pushing the odds that they would walk away with the whole pile of cash. The longer they tried, the more they stood to lose.

They have lost a great deal already.

Kate, please, the time to walk away was about 2 seasons ago. I really hate to think that you will spend your later years wishing you could have this time back - time that has been used for frivilous things, not really getting to know your children and loving them from 'way down deep just for who they are as people.

Jon and Kate, what IS the grand prize, the ultimate goal, of all this for you? At what point are you willig to say "I'm walking away" and being satisfied with what you already have? You WANT the top level, but you are going to find yourself plummeting back down to the $32,000 level and wondering what went wrong as you leave the stage.

You have nobody to call for "Call a Friend" for help. And the audience is screaming "We're giving you the right answer, but you're not listening!"

Please, start listening now before you lose more than you've already lost. Slow down, put down the cell phone, put away the ATV, and interact with your Multiple Blessings. Please. You'll all end up winners.

ashley said...

Your Facebook account privacy can be set by you. In my case only my friends can see my information, the people who are not just sees my picture and a message that says....Only allows certain people to see her full profile. Just because I'm in a group does not mean people can see my info, only my friends.

To change settings, go to the top right of the page and click on settings, then privacy.

Hope this helps

wendyzr said...

With the ratings dropping from 10 mil to 1 mill it shows that viewers do not care about the family. They would have watched this memory episode. The hard core viewers have dropped as well. The viewers just want drama.

So what will TLC do to entice everyone this August?

Glenda said...

Janina-
If you join a group people can't view your profile unless they send a friend request and they accept you. Then you are capable of viewing their whole profiles. However if you submit a picture they can look at the whole album it came out of.

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

Wyomissing Neighbor,

You are right. Kate is addicted to the attention. Just like an alcoholic is addicted to alcohol, and a drug addict is addicted to drugs. You can tell be the way Kate dresses that she is seeking attention. I am seeing "behind" pictures of Kate in her blue bikini on magazines at the grocery store and it's digusting. Doesn't Kate realize that she looks like crap? For a woman Kate's age, she should know better.

No Drama Mama said...

Wyomissing Neighbor: You are right! I have yet to see anyone, even business people, dress as nice as Kate does to run errands. It just is not typical Berks County!

getreal said...

First time poster, long time reader here. I wrote to the Cleveland Women's Show and received a reply that while they've had many emails stating concern over Kate's appearance, there's also been many emails staing how happy people were that the SW Show was giving her a chance to tell her story free of paps and cameras. :(

Isnt that was Kate did when she appeared on the cover and gave People magazine and exclusive interview not once, but twice!
Then J & K release a statement that they will no longer comment or respond to the media. Unless however, you are willing to PAY to hear KATE'S 'side of the story' at the Cleveland's Women Show. Now that Kate can no longer 'sell' her 'amazing story' of being a christian family facing the challanges and struggles of raising twins and sextuplets, Kate has to re-invent herself and her 'story' to keep the $$$ rolling in and the sheeple interested.

SaNdY said...

fidosmommy said...
I feel like I've been watching a 3 year marathon of "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?". The longer the contestants keep going, the more they stand to lose in the end. Most end up losing before they reach the grand prize.

Jon and Kate could have stopped at the $32,000 level, but they just kept pushing the odds that they would walk away with the whole pile of cash. The longer they tried, the more they stood to lose.

They have lost a great deal already.

Kate, please, the time to walk away was about 2 seasons ago. I really hate to think that you will spend your later years wishing you could have this time back - time that has been used for frivilous things, not really getting to know your children and loving them from 'way down deep just for who they are as people.

Jon and Kate, what IS the grand prize, the ultimate goal, of all this for you? At what point are you willig to say "I'm walking away" and being satisfied with what you already have? You WANT the top level, but you are going to find yourself plummeting back down to the $32,000 level and wondering what went wrong as you leave the stage.

You have nobody to call for "Call a Friend" for help. And the audience is screaming "We're giving you the right answer, but you're not listening!"

Please, start listening now before you lose more than you've already lost. Slow down, put down the cell phone, put away the ATV, and interact with your Multiple Blessings. Please. You'll all end up winners.
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Great metaphor using 'Who Wants to
Be A Millionaire'...I thought of 'Deal No Deal' too...J&K seem to be down to the last 2 cases...one that holds the million and the other one with one red cent...and the only way she interacts with her 'mulitple blessings' is to spank, yell, humiliate, and drag them on photo ops...I mean shopping trips...

Katie O said...

Happy 4th of July! I wonder if Jon and/or Kate will take the kids to the parade they go to "every year" in their old Pennsylvania town? I wonder if they'll make that fabulous cake that Kate completely came up with all by herself (I made that cake with the strawberries and blueberries when I was 8 years old, btw...).

Hmmm....

STLmom said...

I know this has been answered before, but I forgot. How do you find GWOP on Face Book?

Breanna said...

STLmom there is a link on the sidebar

Marie said...

Glenda said...

Janina-
If you join a group people can't view your profile unless they send a friend request and they accept you. Then you are capable of viewing their whole profiles. However if you submit a picture they can look at the whole album it came out of.

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That also depends on your settings. I have it so tagged photos of me can only be seen by friends or friends of friends. Other wise it says their is either a problem with the album or the user has it set to private. I guess they could be a background search just on your name and guess the location by your network.

And whomever thought of the strawberry/blueberry cake is a genius. I loved in back in 1994.

I kinda wish someone would write to someone else that if you want "sell" the other side, bring Jon in to tell his side an hour later. Drama.

1sttimemom said...

I noticed in the Corolla, NC episodes, that the body guard was on the beach with them but at a great distance...I had to pause my DVR to make sure it was him. You can see him a couple of times.

Sharla said...

I put the Facebook link in the Free Discussion post. :)

Angie said...

I don't mean to be a pain but I still can't get it. The links only take me to the log in page. What is the name used on Facebook so I can search for it once I am in. Thanks for your help with this.

Christine said...

I think in late July we will start seeing dramatic previews for the new episodes to try to rope viewers in. I'm sure the whole single struggling mom will be played up. I just hope it does not lead to an increase in ratings. Being a "single" mom to 8 kids with an estate , 5 cars, and helpers is not a struggle to me.

DH's dad died suddenly leaving his mom(who got married at 18 and had no job experience) with 10 young kids in a 1200 sq ft house, 1 bathroom , no helpers and she never complained about any struggles even 20 years later!

Sharla said...

Yes, Angie, you must log into Facebook to get to the group.

Iggy said...

The Truman Show was on this morning. I cannot believe how incredibly prophetic it was - the staged interactions, the elimination of anyone who tried to be an "Aunt Jodi" in Trumans life, the ridiculous product placements, etc. No, things haven't gone that far for the Gosselin kids but its coming close enough. I seriously wonder if Kate has banned that movie the Gosselin household?

NYMomof4 said...

Moons in Leo said:
I just read that Zondervan is not releasing Kate's cookbook as planned. I suspect that it isn't because they discovered that she didn't invent the sandwich, but because you can't sell the divorcing couple as a close-knit Christian family any longer.
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Joel on The Soup had a great bit about this postponed book last night. He showed a fake cover of Kate screaming and said the new title would be "If You're Hungry Get Your 23-Year-Old Girlfriend to Microwave a Burrito."!!!

just wondering said...

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

Doesn't Kate realize that she looks like crap? For a woman Kate's age, she should know better.

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There seems to be no muscle definition in Kate's body. Not being snarky, but it's obvious. I also think she is drinking a LOT more, lately.

MirandaB2008 said...

Bev Said :
All of Kate's complaints about Jon centered around him not meeting HER needs. He didn't do enough to help HER. He didn't support HER. She needed more attention than he was giving. I personally was quite amazed and impressed with all the things Jon DID do for her and the kids. He was above average IMO as far as being involved and being patient with her moodiness. Now that his patience is all used up and he's finally said "Enough!" she is going to need that attention from somewhere else..
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I fully agree with you Bev..... my head is still agog from the time she told Jon that he should come to her every day and say" what can I do to help you " ...... when she first said it? I thought WHY!!?? he does FAR more with and for all the children than she did/does..
yes she wrote cute little notes and put them into their School lunch packs etc? but now that we know that was All For Show!? how often do you suppose that REALLY happened!? GAG!.

Geri said...

Canadian Mom said...
Thank you for taking the time to write us. Healthtex is committed tomaking well-made children's clothing that is fashionable, priced rightand wearable for almost any occasion. Our customers are really importantto us. We appreciate the feedback. - The Healthtex Team

The return e-mail I received from Health-Tex. Hey, at least I tried...

7/03/2009 11:32 PM
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Health Tex has already dropped Kate from the clothing line

A Mom-ynous said...

With the ratings dropping from 10 mil to 1 mill it shows that viewers do not care about the family. They would have watched this memory episode. The hard core viewers have dropped as well. The viewers just want drama.

So what will TLC do to entice everyone this August?




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Or perhaps viewers woke up and were po'd at what the family has done.

Many here have admitted watching depsite their longstanding boycotts--yet they will be the first to say they care about the family.

I actually think it is somewhat a sign of caring to not be able to go through the emotions of a 10-year recap of their relationship.

For the first time--I wasn't even tempted to watch. It just felt dirty to me.

Perhaps to the other 4 million viewers that were watching all along--they felt the same way.

At this point, the only way to get me back--I'm not even sure what it could be.


They need 6 months to a year or more of a break before I could consider enjoying any program once again.

The one thing I hate about any marketing is oversaturation--and kids aside--the Gosselin brand is so oversaturated that the public is just sick of it.

I can guarantee you that a percentage of those 10 million viewers were hoping that the big announcement would be something other than divorce--something positive. I will say that a small part of me was hoping for something different, though my brain knew better.

motorcitymama said...

I saw that 4th of July episode last week while I was flipping channels. It went from her screaming at the kids from taking fruit to then saying, "come here, smile pretty around the cake." (I'm paraphrasing) It was just so utterly creepy that she can turn on and off like that. What a lunatic!

But I still laugh at her very original, unique cake that women have been making since they invented Dream Whip. I imagine myself in her situation and can think of a million different ways to say that she likes the recipe and makes it all the time, instead of what she says like she's freaking Nigella Lawson.

Julie said...

Just had the most frightening experience. While waiting for our pizza to be made, my son and I spotted someone with the Kate Gosselin hair-don't...

Same streaky chunks.....

And here's the kicker.....

IT WAS A MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jacsamic said...

I'm confused.

If, as stated here, there are 25+- paparazzi on the road in front of the Gosselin home, why are there no photos popping up anywhere? Not saying there aren't 25 'paparazzi' out there....could it be they are all on the payroll and are there just for show? What true Pap would show up in such an out of the way place to shoot something and not send it in? Hmmmmmmm.....methinks Katie Irene might just be up to some more control nonsense.....hmmmm.....

Of course they are still filming for the show....no way TLC and Katie Irene will let it stop...poor babies....and, again, I am confused: why in the world is NO ONE stepping in to protect the children.....if I work, I get paid. And I am in control of the amount of time I work. Where is the protection for the childrens' rights, future, mental health, social development????

I'm confused.

Oh, and yep, I sent another letter to HealthTex and Vonder whatever (can never remember the name of that publishing company) and said Thank You for doing the right thing by backing away from Katie Irene. I wish I could be writing more Thank You letters......

Sara said...

"I wrote emails to TLC how can TLC or Kate's attorney do anything the people who are concerned for the 8 kids.

I contacted my attorney and she said it was fine to have an opinion. Please share what you know."




WOW! Whoever that attorney is, you need to keep her on retainer! She answers you email with legal questions in less than an hour - on not only a weekend, but a holiday weekend as well!
I am beyond impressed!




Ok, back to your question: "What can TLC "do" to anyone who is concerned about the children?"



I don't know that they can or would "do" anything to someone because they "have an opinion."

However, I do work in PR and I have seen several cases of actionable libel - posters who thought they were anonymous, but were taken to court over things said on a message board.

The Scrushy case is the first one that comes to mind, but there are others more recent, as recent as a month or so ago, when a Texas lawyer and his wife sued a company (and won) for the right to have the identity of over 100 posters that posted on Topix. (Regarding an arrest of the attorney and his wife.)

The thing is this: People are posting and devising ways here to derail Kate's 'business." However, in our view, it is only trying to protect the children that she is exploiting.

Another party may have another view entirely on our actions.


I've done it myself in advising women to contact the sponsors of Women's shows.

However, I am not going to do that using my real name and identifying the PR company that I work for.

So what I am saying is be careful about Facebook. If you use your real name, and id yourself, all the information someone needs to find you is right out there in the open.

So my advice, not that anyone is asking for it or cares, is be careful.

And don't make it easy for people to find out who and where you are.

fidosmommy said...

Christine said...
DH's dad died suddenly leaving his mom(who got married at 18 and had no job experience) with 10 young kids in a 1200 sq ft house, 1 bathroom , no helpers and she never complained about any struggles even 20 years later!


That would be because she truly LOVED her children, perhaps? That she saw herself as the nurturer of her family and not just a breadwinner? That she knew even when the going got tough that she
needed to keep a calm head and a joyful heart? That she relied on
hard work and God instead of donations requests to get by? That she knew she was teaching her
precious children a few lessons on
self-sufficiency simply by her example? That she was, in other words, a MOTHER?

Kudos to your mother-in-law. She sounds like a gem to me.

Becky Q in PA said...

3rd Rock From The Sun said (in part):
Wyomissing Neighbor,
"You are right. Kate is addicted to the attention. Just like an alcoholic is addicted to alcohol, and a drug addict is addicted to drugs"
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You're both right, and it extends beyond the tabloids; I think her addiction for fame/money is the root cause of the implosion of this family.

I hesitated to admit this before, but I once tried to help so someone involved with drugs by offering him a place to stay and lending him money to live as long as he stayed clean and found a job. Not only did he lie about applying for jobs, but he would make such a nuisance of himself asking to borrow $$$ for this or that while I was trying to meet deadlines and attend teleconferences for work at my home office that finally I'd give in just to make him SHUT UP AND GIVE ME SOME PEACE!!

I keep thinking that any time Jon would try to put his foot down about stopping the show, Kate the addict would pitch a royal fit IN FRONT OF THE KIDS and make everyone's life hell until he capitulated. (I'm guessing that was her MO for a lot of things). I feel bad for Jon bc he either had to give in to her or let world war III rage around him and the kids. I know screaming arguments leave scars, bc my dad was a lot like Kate when I was growing up. My mom knew arguing back with the energizer bunny of yelling was futile--it just prolonged the hell we were going through. Poor Jon was scr*wed either way.

christinap said...

Just wanted to add this in: I am baffled as to why they don't build a complete privacy fence around the entire property (they certainly have the $) so the kids aren't on display all the time.
oh wait, they WANT them on display, because kids = $$$$.

So sad.

jonandkatewho? said...

Ok something is going on here.

First of all, we have been totally inundated with photos of Jon and Kate and the kids on a daily basis, even just hanging out in the driveway or Kate's "shopping" (PR) trips.

Now the family is filming on the 4th of July, which we heard they were going to share with the kids, and there are no pics on any of the sites about what they are doing today.

Do you really think the paps would just all of a sudden stop taking pics, when they've been taking them every single day? I don't. I think Kate and TLC have a deal with those paps to take pics (or use them) only when she says to, and not during filming anymore so they can build up the "suspense" and draw people in to the episode that they are filming now for August.

Does that make sense? I smell manipulation, with not a single photo released yet of the day's events.

JulieMom said...

jonandkatewho? said...
Ok something is going on here.

First of all, we have been totally inundated with photos of Jon and Kate and the kids on a daily basis, even just hanging out in the driveway or Kate's "shopping" (PR) trips.

Now the family is filming on the 4th of July, which we heard they were going to share with the kids, and there are no pics on any of the sites about what they are doing today.

Do you really think the paps would just all of a sudden stop taking pics, when they've been taking them every single day? I don't. I think Kate and TLC have a deal with those paps to take pics (or use them) only when she says to, and not during filming anymore so they can build up the "suspense" and draw people in to the episode that they are filming now for August.

Does that make sense? I smell manipulation, with not a single photo released yet of the day's events.


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It seems every thing they do is a manipulation. Frankly, I am sick of looking at them and hope they are through flaunting themselves on the tabloids and websites every day. I am done.

hesayshesay said...

I told you guys...
This is all a set up.. IMHO it's all about the "reconciliation". I heard they ARE going to KOrea and that way before all this broke, this was already planned. I think Carla's daughter is going with them to Korea. They have their passports. Apartment, cancel the divorce, therapy, Trip, August reunion... Puleese.

MBach said...

The same pictures are being sold to different magazines. There are 3 covers with the same frowning Kate/Hate face displayed.

I went to Target tonight to pick up a couple of things. In the video department all the DVD's of J&K Exploit Their Children Show were on a table display. So I carried one of the magazines showing J&K's angry faces in separate boxes and detailing their divorce, back to the display, and I placed it right under the DVDs.

The magazine probably didn't stay there long, but I sure felt satisfied to leave it there.

VB Mom of 2 Boys said...

re: the pool

I don't know if Kon (especially Kate) would be the most attentive regarding the kids and the pool. Although they probably have somewhat swimming experience (at least with vests and such), I could see Kate sitting in one of those luxury rafts (similar to what she does with her lawn chair) barking orders to Jon or whomever is "helping" her at the time.

just wondering said...

jonandkatewho? said...
Ok something is going on here.

I think Kate and TLC have a deal with those paps to take pics (or use them) only when she says to, and not during filming anymore so they can build up the "suspense" and draw people in to the episode that they are filming now for August.

Does that make sense?

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Most of the pictures come from Michael Swarbrick of Infphoto. Those are the flattering and approved pictures . They are then sold to radaronline and other places.

The more unflattering shots come from the paparazzi who then sell their shots to the highest bidder. You have to check the pictures to see who is credited for the shot.

Aunt Chris said...

Julie said...
Just had the most frightening experience. While waiting for our pizza to be made, my son and I spotted someone with the Kate Gosselin hair-don't...

Same streaky chunks.....

And here's the kicker.....

IT WAS A MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Ahahahahhaahahhahahahahaaaaaaaaa!

Jana said...

KatyMaxinePitiesKatieIrene said...

First time poster, long time reader here. I wrote to the Cleveland Women's Show and received a reply that while they've had many emails stating concern over Kate's appearance, there's also been many emails staing how happy people were that the SW Show was giving her a chance to tell her story free of paps and cameras. :(
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Well, I hope that there are more against than for her appearance, and that they demonstrate with their dollars -- walk them elsewhere folks. If the turn out is poor, that will tell the organizers all they need know about whether they made the right decision or not. I hope the turn-out is hugely disappointing for them.

Becky Q in PA said...

I've been trying to stay away from the gossip/tabloid sites, but do we even know if they're posting ANY pics today of anyone? Maybe they all took off for the 4th.

Jana said...

Christine said...

I think in late July we will start seeing dramatic previews for the new episodes to try to rope viewers in. I'm sure the whole single struggling mom will be played up. I just hope it does not lead to an increase in ratings. Being a "single" mom to 8 kids with an estate , 5 cars, and helpers is not a struggle to me.
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TLC can try to peddle that angle, but if they think they'll garner the single mom viewer, they're sorely mistaken. As a real life struggling single mom, I can see right through Katie Irene's phoniness. Her life is a piece of cake! Besides, most mothers do not like whiners, and that's all Kate does -- whine about how tiring it is, to be mom of 8 young children. Well, you should have thought of that before you had them, dumbass. Instead of whining about your 8 blessings, do what real moms do everywhere and get down to it! Work your butt off every day, with little thanks and less reward. That's called being a mom, and it is its own reward.

And try dressing like a normal person. Every single outfit above the knee, with high heel slingbacks or 3" wedges? *eye roll* You are not impressing anyone but yourself lady.

If her lips are moving, she's lyin' said...

Kate's own words:

"During this very difficult time we will be working to focus solely on the needs of our family. This includes no longer commenting publicly or reacting to media stories and speculation."

So why is she appearing at the Clevland Woman's Expo?? Didn't the promoter say it was to let her tell her side???? Contradiction or just me?

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

Contradiction for sure. But let's remember, money talks, and that's what Kate is all about.

fidosmommy said...

We're all talking about Jon's regression to youthful looks, and I guess that's what's going on.

Well, Kate is also trying to recapture her youth by the bikinis.
Most (not all, but most) 40+ year olds don't do the bikini anymore. In her bikini heyday, Kate was walking around in sweatshirts and
loose pants, hiding her figure. She's recapturing her lost days now, I think.

The shopping helps her cope with several issues. 1) it's a stress reliever. 2) It gets her out of the house. 3) It's something a 20year old with no responsibilities
would do (expendable cash since somebody else is paying the rent)
4) It just plain feels good, even if only temporarily.

But Kate, the reality of it is that the only thing that will make your stress go away, get you out of the house more, spend your own money and still feel good is to
earn your own cash by the work of your own hands/mind.

And, did anybody ever point out to you that smiling faces look so much younger than frowning faces?
Your expressions add years to your countenance, Kate. Please find something to make you feel genuine joy inside so you can start peeling the years away in a more
legitimate and lasting way. OK?

just wondering said...
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Happy4th said...

Ok something is going on here.

First of all, we have been totally inundated with photos of Jon and Kate and the kids on a daily basis, even just hanging out in the driveway or Kate's "shopping" (PR) trips.

Now the family is filming on the 4th of July, which we heard they were going to share with the kids, and there are no pics on any of the sites about what they are doing today.

Do you really think the paps would just all of a sudden stop taking pics, when they've been taking them every single day? I don't. I think Kate and TLC have a deal with those paps to take pics (or use them) only when she says to, and not during filming anymore so they can build up the "suspense" and draw people in to the episode that they are filming now for August.

Does that make sense? I smell manipulation, with not a single photo released yet of the day's events.

It does seem quite suspect that the 'p-people' were quite eager to get a shot of KATE sporting her various $100 bikini of the day while vacationing at a private beach resort in NC WITH her children, KATE prancing in yet another bikini WITH her children on the front lawn of the Konpound, and KATE grocery shopping in a mini skirt and high heels WITH her children. IMO, Kate didnt want to play nice anymore so ALL the 'p-people' packed up their 'toys' and went elsewhere. Until such time that Kate's PR team requires their services again. Dont call us, we will call you!

just wondering said...

http://tinyurl.com/m6pvcu


Here is an insightful article from the Reading Eagle from May 31 of this year for those of you who are not up to speed on your J&K background info. Please make sure you also click on all of the blue links scattered throughout the article. It tells you just how long this scam has been in the works.

Did you know that they also tried to be on Extreme Home Makeover but didn't make the cut? (Whewwww!!)

Jon wrote about it in his blog in 2005 and was complaining that having to pay taxes for something free just didn't seem right, and that to get around these pesky taxes it was more financially prudent to get cash donations from churches.

fidosmommy said...

So sorry. I hit the wrong number key. I meant to say "most 30+ year old's don't do the bikini anymore".

Kate's not in her 40's yet! My apologies, Kate. Just a typo!

Ellie said...

Regarding the paparazzi, there are photographers from at least five agencies camped out there that I know of - INF Photo, Splash News, Bauer Griffin, Fame Pictures, and another one that I've forgotten right now. There are probably some freelancers also.

There could be any number of reasons that the pictures have started to dry up... the biggest among them being that the Jon and Kate story is no longer front page news (due to MJ's death and Palin's resignation) hence the photos will not be selling as fast or for as much. I believe that the photographer from Splash has already left PA, probably because that agency felt the photos were no longer lucrative enough to justify the assignment out there. It sounds obvious but if the Gosselins are filming inside or out back, we wouldn't have a clue either. The paparazzi give the impression that they're omnipresent but really, they can have the same trouble getting access as any other onlooker, and if people know what they're doing, it's easy to dodge them.

just wondering said...

If her lips are moving, she's lyin' said...
So why is she appearing at the Clevland Woman's Expo?? Didn't the promoter say it was to let her tell her side???? Contradiction or just me?

***********

Not just Cleveland on 9/11. She is also scheduled for Charlotte on 9/17, and Birmingham on 9/24.

Reportedly for $25,000 per show plus comps.

Becky Q in PA said...

Yeah, funny how easy it is to avoid the paparazzi if they put in the tiniest effort. I'm sure they want no evidence that they're filming during the hiatus.

How do you think TLC will explain having July 4th footage filmed during their self-imposed hiatus? Or are they gonna act like they're just showing home movies from the wonderful family holiday? (Maybe that's why they'd finally invite other family members: "impromptu" camera operators).

Do they think we're stupid? (Oh, that's right, they do!)

just wondering said...

http://www.5minutesformom.com/5132/jon-gosselin-podcast-0/


Podcast interview with Jon from December. If you click the second recording he says that they film 3-8 hours a day with the children filming 2-3 days a week.

HadleyMSt.J said...

just wondering said...

http://tinyurl.com/m6pvcu


Here is an insightful article from the Reading Eagle from May 31 of this year for those of you who are not up to speed on your J&K background info. Please make sure you also click on all of the blue links scattered throughout the article. It tells you just how long this scam has been in the works.

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Thanks for posting that. I read the piece that talked about Kate pleading with the Welfare office not to take away the nurse she had with her for the entire first year.

My favorite line? "In the meantime, she said, “It’s me with eight children, which is not fair.”

You know what's not fair? That YOU Kate chose to have children and WE the taxpayers have had to pay for them. That is NOT fair.

Popcorn said...

To me it doesn't seem the split is just for ratings. Their body language and interactions do not tell the tale of two people working together for a common goal. They are barely civil to one another and Kate in particular ignores Jon as much as possible, suggesting to me that he is the one who wanted out and she is furious with him for ruining her "perfect family" image.

She will likely always have a following of naive people, but I think she's on a downhill slide and picking up speed now...she'll try desperately to hang on to this lifestyle but she won't be able to sustain it much longer.

Miranda said...

Just Wondering said...

http://tinyurl.com/m6pvcu

Here is an insightful article from the Reading Eagle from May 31 of this year for those of you who are not up to speed on your J&K background info. Please make sure you also click on all of the blue links scattered throughout the article. It tells you just how long this scam has been in the works.

_____________________

Just Wondering, very interesting series of articles!

With the clarity of hindsight, here's a couple of things that stood out for me:

"It became real when I walked into labor and delivery and looked down the hallway and there were 50 people there," Jonathan, 27, said of the medical staff. "And it became even more real when I saw a sea of arms and legs."

Kate, 29, who had contractions for about 10 hours, pulled the curtain back and pushed people out of the way to get a glimpse of each of her six newborns — three sons and three daughters, Jonathan said.

......

http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=82894


Kate I. Gosselin pleaded Thursday for the state Department of Public Welfare to maintain funding for a nurse [Angie S. Krall] who helps care for her 1-year-old sextuplets.

Kate Gosselin wiped tears while saying that Krall has noticed diaper rashes, fevers and even pneumonia in the children.

If the switch to a home-health aide is made, Kate Gosselin fears she would need a long time to find the right worker.

In the meantime, she said, “It’s me with eight children, which is not fair.”

http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=140514

Found this very Interesting! said...

just wondering said...
http://tinyurl.com/m6pvcu


Here is an insightful article from the Reading Eagle from May 31 of this year for those of you who are not up to speed on your J&K background info. Please make sure you also click on all of the blue links scattered throughout the article. It tells you just how long this scam has been in the works.

Did you know that they also tried to be on Extreme Home Makeover but didn't make the cut? (Whewwww!!)

Jon wrote about it in his blog in 2005 and was complaining that having to pay taxes for something free just didn't seem right, and that to get around these pesky taxes it was more financially prudent to get cash donations from churches.


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I just read this article thanks to you and it seems like since the beginning Kate has been a greedy whiney annoying woman who never really had to be a full-time mom. I absolutely loved the last article about her appeal to the welfare court for the nurse to stay for another year, because it her being home with her 8 kids would not be FAIR?

Um, she chose to have the kids....

Thanks so much for finding this article!

Just a Question said...

Can someone tell me what the different acronyms some of the posters use in their own posts. Like IMO, or IMHO, and KON?

There are a few other that I stumpled over but I can't quite decipher?

Stacey said...

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Entertainment/John+Kate+plus+Where+children/1753398/story.html

(Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere already)

An interesting piece on the future of the family.

Geri said...

Just a Question said...
Can someone tell me what the different acronyms some of the posters use in their own posts. Like IMO, or IMHO, and KON?

There are a few other that I stumpled over but I can't quite decipher?

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IMO = In my opinion
IMHO = In my humble opinion
JMHO = Just my humble opinion
KON = Jon and Kate (i.e. Brangelina)
KWIM = Know what I mean?
IA = I agree
ITA = In total agreement
HTH = Hope this helps
LOL = Laughing Out Loud

NoUse4Kate said...

In the meantime, she said, “It’s me with eight children, which is not fair.”

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You have got to be kidding me!?! The only ones it is not fair to are the children. Lady you were the one that pursued having so many children at one time, you were the one that took the gamble on their health (thank God they were born without physical or mental handicaps) you were the one that was irresponsible and should have thought of that way before getting pregnant. I cannot stand when people play the "poor me card" when they are totally responsible for the circumstances that they are in.

So basically she has always been an idiot. That is definitely not a surprise.

ratherbkayaking said...

Just a question,

IMO, IMHO are both slang developed and widely used for texting, instant messaging and for message boards. IMO - in my opinion, IMHO - in my humble opinion. Both these and many others can be looked up in the urban dictionary, available at http://www.urbandictionary.com/

KON is GWOP slang that is a take on Brangelina (Brad plus Angelina), Bennifer (Ben Affleck and Jennifer) and other couple combination names. KON is Kate plus Jon and delightfully sounds like the con's they are.

kelly said...

The damage being done to these kids is parallel to the damage done to the Jackson 5 kids at such an early age by a father who exploited his children for money. Look at Michael Jackson and the way he lived his live, never having a childhood to begin with. Nothing was normal about the way he grew up on stage and the life he lived up until his final demise.

The same damage is being done to the 8 little Gosselin children, who also have no say in their being on the public stage. The damage being done to them now is tantamount to the damage that a broken water pipe does to the ground above it. Everything looks normal on top but when the ground finally gives way after weeks, months and years of undermining, everyone is surprised at the amount of damage that has taken place and no one had any idea that the earth was crumbling beneath them.

Calgary7 said...

Just a Question said...
Can someone tell me what the different acronyms some of the posters use in their own posts. Like IMO, or IMHO, and KON?

There are a few other that I stumpled over but I can't quite decipher?

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
no worries. These have been used on the internet for over a decade:


IMO = In My Opinion
IMHO = In My Humble/Honest Opinion
KON = Kate + Jon
DH = Dear Husband
DD = Dear Daughter
LOL = Laugh out Loud
LMAO = Laughing My A** Off

marylou said...

Saw this funny comment in the Entertainment section of the Toronto Star -

Kate Gosselin's cookbook Love is in the Mix: Making Meals into Memories has been postponed ... after a focus group expressed dislike of the dishes "Pimp Out My Kids Cupcakes" and "Shut Up, Mommy's Busy Now Baked Beans."

readerlady said...

Just a question:

IMO = In My Opinion
IMHO = In My Humble Opinion
KON = combination of Jon & Kate; also, what they are (cons)

You might also run across the following:

ITA = I totally agree
IMNSHO = In my not so humble opinion
LOL = laughing out loud
ROFLOL = rolling on floor, laughing out loud
DH = darling husband
DW = darling wife
DD = darling daughter
Well, you get the picture.
AFAIK = as far as I know

sunnyskies said...

Just a Question said...
Can someone tell me what the different acronyms some of the posters use in their own posts. Like IMO, or IMHO, and KON?

There are a few other that I stumpled over but I can't quite decipher?

7/05/2009 2:40 AM

IMO = In My Opinion IMHO = In My Honest Opinion
Kate + Jon = KON

blamingoftheshrew said...

Bev said:
"I think Jon and Kate's 15 minutes of fame are used up. When you go to the grocery store and get to the check-out and see Kate all over the magazines it just makes you shake your head in disgust. I think to myself "What a waste...she could have had all she needed to make her family comfortable for life and then some" but instead she was greedy and needy and lost it all. That's exactly what happened. All of Kate's complaints about Jon centered around him not meeting HER needs. He didn't do enough to help HER. He didn't support HER. She needed more attention than he was giving. I personally was quite amazed and impressed with all the things Jon DID do for her and the kids. He was above average IMO as far as being involved and being patient with her moodiness. Now that his patience is all used up and he's finally said "Enough!" she is going to need that attention from somewhere else..and that would explain the tabloids and magazine covers. People magazine in particular. I have the feeling that Kate will be unable to re-invent herself so easily. The entire draw of the show was watching her attack Jon. For her to try to throw Jon under the bus just makes people angry. I hope the ratings continue to decline so that these children have a shot at a normal life. If Kate gets all crazy and drags Jon through an ugly divorce all that will do is use up all their money and then what? They'll be broke and unpopular. What a way to provide for your children."

7/04
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I agree with everything Bev said, 100%. Jon is the better person and much better parent than Khate. He is a victim of the shrew along with the kids!

blamingoftheshrew said...

"Can someone tell me what the different acronyms some of the posters use in their own posts. Like IMO, or IMHO, and KON?

There are a few other that I stumpled over but I can't quite decipher?"

7/05/2009 2:40 AM
???????????????????????????????????
Check out "Netlingo" for acronyms (text message shorthand)--the link follows. IMO means "In my opinion", IMHO means, "In my humble opinion". Kon, I believe means "Kate is a con artist".
Here is the link to netlingo:

http://www.netlingo.com/acronyms.php

TUNDRA said...

July 4th pics are up.

http://justjared.buzznet.com/gallery/photos.php?yr=2009&mon=07&evt=gosselin-id4&pic=jon-kate-gosselin-july-4th-05.jpg

ForeverHopeful said...

Hi Fido's Mommy!

GREAT analogy to "Millionaire"!!!SO TRUE!!!

I've tried to figure out the moment when everything went SO BAD. I think we will hear some more stuff in the future that will help us all piece together what REALLY caused the collapse.

Ellie said...

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009/07/05/jon-kate-gosselin-july-4th

Here we go, fourth of July pics. Picnic on the front lawn with both Jon and Kate present. These were taken by the agency that I forgot is also camped out front, Flynet.

Carol said...

Just a question said:

Can someone tell me what the different acronyms some of the posters use in their own posts. Like IMO, or IMHO, and KON?

There are a few other that I stumpled over but I can't quite decipher?
_____________________________________

IMO - In My Opinion
IMHO - In My Humble Opinion
Kon - name for jON and Kate. Done this way for the CON artists they are.
Khate - Play on Kate and hate.

Sue said...

Just a Question:

IMO=In my opinion

IMHO=In my humble opinion

KON=Kate+Jom=KON (con)

Wendy said...

I believe KON is short for Jon and Kate- them together as a force

TooSadToWatch said...

Ellie said...

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009/07/05/jon-kate-gosselin-july-4th

Here we go, fourth of July pics. Picnic on the front lawn with both Jon and Kate present. These were taken by the agency that I forgot is also camped out front, Flynet.


Do these people EVER put down their phones??

pinkdiamond611 said...

The Just Jared photos of the 4th show a HAPPY family. NOT. No one smiling face in the bunch. Who is the new guy? I am assuming a new bodyguard? Even though they all look miserable, I wouldn't be surprised if they did take the trip to Korea together, you know, for the kids sake. GAG.

Professional Mom said...

So, in the just jared photos, one can see Kate bringing mail out to a security man.

Just wondering, if that is Steve's mail? His address has been posted as being the gosselin's mansion...it would make sense.

Seems as if Kate and Steve have broken up. I thought Steve looked a little drained at the end of the NC trip. And Kate has not looked happy since she left Steve's side....

During the season 4 finale, when Kate said she "loved what she is doing right now"...I don't think she was talking about the show.

ForeverHopeful said...

Hi JustWondering!

Thanks SO much for this link!

http://tinyurl.com/m6pvcu

It was FASCINATING to read all of the info from before the family became a part of TV!!!

Sharon said...

I told you guys...
This is all a set up.. IMHO it's all about the "reconciliation". I heard they ARE going to KOrea and that way before all this broke, this was already planned. I think Carla's daughter is going with them to Korea. They have their passports. Apartment, cancel the divorce, therapy, Trip, August reunion... Puleese.

If this is true I really hope that people won't watch. somehow we have to put a stop their manipulation, and lies.

KatyMaxinePitiesKatieIrene said...

Compared to our neighborhood party with tons of happy kids, games, blow-ups, water toys, fireworks, etc...those Just Jared pics were really sad and pathetic. I can't imagine anyone being jealous of this family.

ThickGirlinHeels said...

Re. the JustJared pics:

One of the kids CRYING, as usual.

WHY does she wear high heels with capris? Denim capris, at that. Even I know that looks strange, and I don't have a fashion sylist!

I guess I have to contact Brighton and MAKE SURE they didn't provide that purse to her; as I see she is carrying a Brighton in several pics. Sigh. I have some myself, of course, I PAID for them.

Finally: Girlfriend is Thick.

MsPeabody said...

Julie said: Just had the most frightening experience. While waiting for our pizza to be made, my son and I spotted someone with the Kate Gosselin hair-don't...

Same streaky chunks.....

And here's the kicker.....

IT WAS A MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jen said: ROFL!! That is the funniest thing I’ve heard, thanks for the laugh!
I agree with the poster who said that the paparazzi’s and Kate are in cahoots together, I think so too. The Gosselins drive is a long way to the front door of her home and some of the pictures that have been released are up close pics and Kate looks right at the camera as if she knows they are there and that’s because of course she knows. She’s a media hog and loves all the attention; she doesn’t care what it does to her kids in the long run. I’m so sick of seeing her face in the rag mags in the line at the grocery. Even with a hiatus she still has to be the center of attention, she just can’t let anyone forget who she is…GAG!

Ms.Peach said...

That doesn't look like mail she handed to the new body guard in the picture.

Yuk. There she is again with the ugly hat, big sunglasses, and gross bare feet in a lawn with dog poop.

Yawn. Boring pics.

HateKate said...

Can anyone explain to me why a couple who is no longer speaking to the media would parade their 8 children in front of their garage? WHen they have acres and acres of land and privacy?

Is it bc someone wants her photos taken?

Evil woman.

HateKate said...

First time poster, long time reader here. I wrote to the Cleveland Women's Show and received a reply that while they've had many emails stating concern over Kate's appearance, there's also been many emails staing how happy people were that the SW Show was giving her a chance to tell her story free of paps and cameras. :(
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Unfortunately in our society there are many women probably uneducated or stuck in difficult situations who would worship Kate. They see her fame and wealth as worthy of envy regardless of Kate's greed or her behavior toward her children and husband. They will buy any product Kate endorses and sadly there are companies that would take advantage of that regardless of moral and ethical issues. Witness TLC

NeverLikedKate said...

Becky Q in PA said:

I keep thinking that any time Jon would try to put his foot down about stopping the show, Kate the addict would pitch a royal fit IN FRONT OF THE KIDS and make everyone's life hell until he capitulated. (I'm guessing that was her MO for a lot of things). I feel bad for Jon bc he either had to give in to her or let world war III rage around him and the kids.
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I was in a similar situation with my ex. His ex-wife was very much like that. And my ex, who was a pretty strong person in other aspects of his life, was much like Jon when it came to dealing with her.

All in the name of keeping the peace for their two sons. As much as possible even though it was a lie and detrimental in many, many ways for all concerned.

Jacsamic said...

Sad photos....sure is obvious Katie Irene is not a happy camper. Maybe loosing the book, healthtex, etc. is having an impact on her....cool.......She surely did not dress herself up for the 'family gathering'....wonder if she is just trying to elicit sympathy?...and 'doing this for the children'....my hiny...she's doing this for photo ops and attention for herself and herself only....Hey Steve...waken up yet????...unsolicited advice- run, very fast.....just run........there are a few more photos on radaronline.com......

Sara L. said...

I thought it looked like a stack of pictures. You know, the kind that you hand out to fans. Didn't Jon hand out some awhile back?

Ms.Peach said...

Healthtex is not just putting Kate's clothing line on hold, they have totally dumped her!!! Healthtex has launched their new clothing line in Wal-Mart, without Kate's name, and the clothing designs attached to Kate's name were dumped in Indonesia to sell.

My guess the Christian book publisher has had their fill too, and the cookbook will never see the light of day as it has totally disappeared from Zondervan's and Amazon's sites.

NeverLikedKate said...

Sara L. said...
I thought it looked like a stack of pictures. You know, the kind that you hand out to fans.
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In one of the radaronline pictures you can clearly see that it is a stack of publicity photos. Yuck.

NeverLikedKate said...

One more thing...sorry! lol

In the radaronline pictures the only ones that seem happy are Jon and Joel.

I like the picture where Kate is shooting a "popper" into the air with three kids and Jon in the picture. Not one of the kids is even paying attention to her. They're all looking at their "real" (IMO, the more genuine of the two) parent, Jon.

Q: Who shoots fireworks off during the day?

A: Only those who want the photogs/cameramen/p-people to be able to get good shots.

Phafe said...

http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=140499


"The mother said she was pleased with the makeover because it mostly suited her style."

It's always been about her. Never about the kids. I know that people have stated that she hated the renovations, but this just show how selfish she is. I would be pleased at any type of renovations to my home, especially one that would accommodate such a large family, and not because it "suited my style". She is never thankful for what people do for her and it's really sad. And people wonder why many countries do not like us. She is the prime example of the rude, self-centered, and selfish person that we as a country are portrayed as being.

momofthreel said...

don't these people have a pool on their property?? Why in the world don't they use it..oh, wait it would mess up Kate's hair and makeup.

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

Jon seems like he is happy in the pictures from yesterday. I also see that he is not wearing his wedding ring on his left hand. I am sure that he can't wait till he is totally free from Kate.

I am glad to see that the dogs were not outside during the fireworks.

Jennifer D said...

Let me get this straight:

they own a home with an extensive inground pool and a nice patio in the BACK yard and yet they continue to "picnic" in the FRONT yard? Can it be any more obvious that they hoped to be spotted?

These two are without shame.

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

Look at the photo on tmz. of one of the girl tups. It looks like her pants are on fire.

rockypriscilla said...

I found the group on facebook, but can't find where to join. It just says "This is an open group. Anyone can join and invite others to join." I can't find where to click to join, only the link to invite friends to join.

Sharla said...

You may have already joined the group. It only requires one click. Join group appears just under the blue picture.

just wondering said...

Ms.Peach said...
Healthtex is not just putting Kate's clothing line on hold, they have totally dumped her!!! Healthtex has launched their new clothing line in Wal-Mart, without Kate's name, and the clothing designs attached to Kate's name were dumped in Indonesia to sell.

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Healthtex is now selling the "Kate designed line" oversees, Indonesia, I think. They were already made so they had to sell them somewhere..

barefoot'n said...

gross bare feet

She's in her own yard walking around with bare feet on a warm summer day. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people do this same thing everyday. So what.

jayemgee said...

Regarding Kate's petition for the state to continue funding the nurse after the 'tups first year - does anyone know the outcome? I'm assuming she was denied, but I don't think I ever heard what happened.

Near yet so far said...

You'll notice that in several photos, they both have their cellphones glued to their ear. Even when they are seemingly with the children, they are miles away on their phones yacking.
Who in God's name are they always talking too, and can't the EVER give those kids their undivided attention?

Becky Q in PA said...

I feel sad for the kids that they might hafta spend EVERY holiday with Kate, too. They do NOT look happy to have her there. I'd bet if it was just them and Jon, those pics would tell a much happier story.

One good thing, though. I don't think the pics by the fence were taken in the driveway (hence the wees and wildflowers). Someone must've figured out how to get pics from another angle.

It was really nice here in PA yesterday. They should've been in the pool!

Becky Q in PA said...

OMG, someone on radaronline said they wonder how much heavy editing it took to make Kate look like a b*tch in every pic. Haven't they ever SEEN her before? It would take a full Photoshopping with someone else's smile pasted on to make her look halfway happy around her family. (Yes, I gave in and went to the tabloid sites to look at the pics. Ugh! I feel so dirty!)

Ms.Peach said...

barefoot'n said...
gross bare feet

She's in her own yard walking around with bare feet on a warm summer day. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people do this same thing everyday. So what.

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I live on acreage, and it is not safe to walk around barefoot. My point was that they have 2 dogs and I would wear shoes with animals around, not even counting what kind of wildlife is on that property (snakes, insects, deer droppings, etc). Plus, she has repeatedly propped her dirty feet up on the furniture when doing the couch interviews. For someone who has gone off the deep end on TV regarding germs, I find the barefoot routine suspect.

Jacsamic said...

http://www.nydailynews.com/
gossip/2009/07/05/2009-07-05_jon_and_kate_gosselin_
reunite_to_spend_july_
4th_with_their_children.html

the children look so unhappy here......

Ms.Peach said...

I just noticed on the Radaronline photos that Kate changed from her light colored shorts and hat, to a jean skirt sans hat. I guess she wanted to look good for the paps. Nobody else changed clothes.

SaNdY said...

Jennifer D said...
Let me get this straight:

they own a home with an extensive inground pool and a nice patio in the BACK yard and yet they continue to "picnic" in the FRONT yard? Can it be any more obvious that they hoped to be spotted?

These two are without shame
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ITA! They should have saved a ton of money, (that they could have put to good use for college expenses for 8 kids!) stayed in the old house and used that driveway! Seriously, I bet their old neighbors are so happy that the G's are no longer living there....

Punkin2448 said...

On a lighter note, this comment was on The Soup last night:

Kate Gosselin's cook book title is being changed from "Love is in the Mix: Making Meals into Memories" to "If you're so hungry have your 23 year old girlfriend microwave you a burrito."

Just thought it was funny....

just wondering said...

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_334106.html

Great article from back in May of 2005. Kate was in full whine.

All of these links I've been pulling are already located in GWOP, you just have to go back and look around. There are hundreds to choose from.. Hundreds..

Genevieve said...

I was just at the Kraftfoods web site. They have the flag cake on the main page. Guess they didn't know that , that cake was khate's own recipe eh? LMBO! They better watch it! She may go after them LOL
Listen, if that female can cook, then I'm a size 2. ( and that ain't even gonna happen LOL)

thisshowissad said...

Jacsamic said...
I'm confused.

If, as stated here, there are 25+- paparazzi on the road in front of the Gosselin home, why are there no photos popping up anywhere?
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Who said there are 25+ paparazzi? I'm sorry but in the times I was past their place the most I saw was 3 and usually none.

blamingoftheshrew said...

TMZ__Kate's Hair--Blame it on Diane:

http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/17/kate-gosselins-hair-blame-it-on-diane/

We now have someone to blame for Kate Gosselin's newly frosted, chunk-striped, bi-level, Flock of Seagulls-humped-a-porcupine, reverse mullet weave -- Diane's Hair Design in Pennsylvania.

huskerhokiema said...

I wonder if the reason Kate has been wearing hats so frequently is that her "stylist" isn't at the house since they aren't filming right now. I would guess the "do" takes quite a bit of styling, and it looks professionally done...I doubt she does it on her own.

Babs said...

gross bare feet

She's in her own yard walking around with bare feet on a warm summer day. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people do this same thing everyday. So what.
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I have a 100 lb. golden retriever. I nor anyone in my family walk outside in our yard without shoes and then those shoes are removed before walking in the house. My dog is trained to use certain spots for doggie piles, but he urinates anywhere. They have 2 large dogs and 8 kids plus who knows how many assorted staff members parading through that grass. Blech.

Olivia said...

More people recognize the farce.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2009/07/nancy_eshelman_jon_kate_make_m.html

Allicat said...

Just passed the Kon pound, and there were NO paps outside the fence. Jon was at the end of the driveway on his cell phone with the two dogs. Some of the kids were playing in the drive way.

I heard from a neighbor that the road was blocked off the other day due to Jon signing autographs and the fans blocking the road!

Jacsamic said...

Re: 25 paparazzi or not...

I did read up thread....local person came around the corner, almost bumped into a car because there were so many cars parked...I remembered 25 being the number used and it stuck with me...because I had also read lower numbers on the thread as well...I guess the point really is if there is even one paparazzi there that was not on the payroll pictures would surface...that pictures surfaced today tells me all I need to know.....ewwwww.

I do not appreciate that TLC and Katie Irene think it is ok to manipulate the viewing public to enhance their profits. Just disgusting and wrong.

IH8K8 said...

The 4th of July pics are very sad. My son got to run around and play with a whole gang of other kids at a friend's home. Those poor kids didn't have a friend or family member in sight to celebrate a holiday with. They got to spend it with Jon and Kate...I'm sure there was tension in the air, even if they ignored each other. I'm sure it didn't make for a very fun day for the kids. Very, very sad.

It was a gorgeous day here..perfect for the pool. Why are they always in the freakin' driveway?? It's SO obvious that it's for a photo op. And like a PP stated, who sets off fireworks in the daytime? Only those who want to have a photo taken doing it!

friendtoall said...

http://tinyurl.com/m6pvcu


Here is an insightful article from the Reading Eagle from May 31 of this year for those of you who are not up to speed on your J&K background info. Please make sure you also click on all of the blue links scattered throughout the article. It tells you just how long this scam has been in the works.
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I just read tthis also ... WOW. My question is when she asked Welfare about the nurse ... I think I read in her book that she got one.

Has Welfare come back to her asking her to repay them? I would think that, that would only be right.

professional mom said...

Yep, you are right, those are fan pictures that Kate is giving the security guard to hand out!

INCREDIBLE!!

She has no idea that this is demeaning to a security guard! She has hired him to protect the family, not act as a public relations agent! He is there on his holiday, to protect her family, and she wants him to hand out photos to the fans! Always thinking about her "career"! I wonder if she asks him to scoop dog poop off the lawn, or to rub her feet? Perhaps she even asks them to pop her zits! Geez!

Tanya said...

Sad for the kids not to have friends and cousins over. Big deal for them to just have mom/dad and crew. Another day in the life.

We said...

Professional Mom,

EXACTLY! I have seen pics of other so called body guards of Kates carry her purse,carry her groceries and help her with the kids. But you know what? They are just like Jon. They need to be men and SPEAK UP!

Kay said...

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

Look at the photo on tmz. of one of the girl tups. It looks like her pants are on fire.

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You are so right! It looks like Hannah from the hair, I hope she's alright! Neither parent seems to notice....

SICK of these ppl said...

Those kids do look miserable forced to sit there next to that thing they have to call their mother. I remember as a kid running around and being surpervised and allowed to do sparklers and other kid friendly fireworks. I didn't have to sit down and watch the adults do everything. Yes--some things were off limits but not everything.

Just wondering--thanks for the link to the article with Kate whining to welfare. She admits her inability to emotionally provide for these kids, which clearly she carried with her over the years. So all she does do it provide the essentials, going through the motions of life in a cold, sterile environment. She even admits that, knowing what she does now, she would not have taken the fertility drugs!!! That's so wrong on so many levels--she KNEW this was possible, ignored it, and now lets her children have something to read that says basically she doesn't want them. WOW.
Here is a blurb of the article for anyone interested:


But the need for special services such as a nurse is not based on income. The state's first question was whether the Gosselin children qualify medically. "The answer is 'no,' so you do not get it," Kate said.

The little ones' good health was her bad luck. Go figure.

"I am urging them to see us as a rare situation, which we are," she said. "And I am begging them to make a special exception. They are six individuals. One mom cannot take care of them.

"I might be able to meet their physical needs, but not the emotional needs. It is very difficult. I'm talking about time to talk about feelings, read books and the absolute bare necessities to get done. I cannot do it five days a week."

The county assessed the Gosselins' property at $142,800 in 1993. Kate thinks the four-bedroom, 2,100 square foot home has a market value of $250,000. They have two vehicles, but no garage, she added.

Why not take advantage of the approximate $100,000 in home equity Kate says they have in it? Why not sell it and buy a bigger one (she would like about 3,500 square feet) in a less affluent neighborhood?

They had been considering a move, but it has not been a high priority because of eight good reasons, she said.

However, keeping the free nurse is a priority.

"I understand that there is no medical necessity," Kate said. "But I hope they see my need. There is nothing set up for someone in our situation. I hope I can hang on to the person that I have."

The Gosselins called the day after my telephone interview with Kate. They asked to preview this column before publication. My editor declined their request. Kate then said she wanted to retract everything -- even though she admitted all of it was true.

"People are out to make us look bad," she said.

a rose is a rose said...

Now that Kate realizes how she ignored and mistreated her fans and abused them, all of a sudden the security guard is doing damage control by handing out PR photos.
Is she kidding me?
Sorry Kate TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE.
Nothing you do will fake kindness, not at this late date.

just wondering said...

I've only seen the Cleveland Womens Show mentioned here, but there are two more scheduled. Here are the dates and the links. I also included tinyurls for those who prefer them.


Cleveland – 9/11
http://www.southernshows.com/wcl/?show_features=1&cat_id=474

http://tiny.cc/e77Dh

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Charlotte – 9/17
http://www.southernshows.com/wch/?show_features=1&cat_id=373

http://tiny.cc/Rk6t8

***************

Birmingham – 9/24
http://www.southernshows.com/wbi/index.php?show_contact=1

http://tiny.cc/3eish

***************

http://blog.al.com/aharvey/2009/05/kate_gosselin_coming_to_birmin.html#more

http://tiny.cc/aL7QK

pw said...

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

Look at the photo on tmz. of one of the girl tups. It looks like her pants are on fire.

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You are so right! It looks like Hannah from the hair, I hope she's alright! Neither parent seems to notice....

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Actually, she's holding her sparkler away from her body but the angle of the picture and her arm makes it look like her pants on fire. I'm pretty sure she was alright. And while I'm sure they stay in the driveway for the photo ops, it's also the safest place to be handling fireworks. I'd be much more concerned if they started doing stuff like that in their grassy, wooded backyard...

Becky Q in PA said...

do any of you think this line of BS from the Cleveland Show might involve a contract to pay her whether she appears or not? After all, Kate, probably unlike the show's coordinators, knows her unsavory activities (like begging for money when she didn't even need it or myriad other tidbits) could come to light at any time; she may have requested a pay-upon-booking clause. Just a thought...

Also, I hope they realize how much security they're going to need. She may sell a lot of tabloids to people who want the dirt, but I don't think she has many real supporters. I don't think metal detectors would do much to locate rotten tomatoes or eggs stuffed in purses, or stop outraged audience members from ging dirty diapers for that matter. (Not that I'd ever throw such things even if I didn't have horrible aim, but it makes me smile to imagine it!) ;)

Reading news said...

Jacsamic said...
Sad photos....sure is obvious Katie Irene is not a happy camper. Maybe loosing the book, healthtex, etc. is having an impact on her....cool.......She surely did not dress herself up for the 'family gathering'....wonder if she is just trying to elicit sympathy?...and 'doing this for the children'....my hiny...she's doing this for photo ops and attention for herself and herself only....Hey Steve...waken up yet????...unsolicited advice- run, very fast.....just run........there are a few more photos on radaronline.com......
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Either the not-a-nanny has been fired or she is on an extended vacation. Mother Dearest obviously is too busy on her pink phone to comb the kids' hair - so many of the pictures lately have shown them with the most messy hair. Maybe that is why Kate has been seen in those hats - she is even too busy to comb her own.

Marylandmom said...

Interetsing article summing up Jon and Kate- comparing Jon to hapless Homer Simpson while Kate is tryingot be Martha Stewart:
http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2009/07/02/kate-gosselin-a-popular-brand-self-destructs

clearasthedayislong said...

professional mom said...
Yep, you are right, those are fan pictures that Kate is giving the security guard to hand out!

INCREDIBLE!!

She has no idea that this is demeaning to a security guard! She has hired him to protect the family, not act as a public relations agent! He is there on his holiday, to protect her family, and she wants him to hand out photos to the fans! Always thinking about her "career"! I wonder if she asks him to scoop dog poop off the lawn, or to rub her feet? Perhaps she even asks them to pop her zits! Geez!

7/05/2009 7:58 PM

J & K said that THEY would no longer comment or respond to the media and paparrazi. Obviously, the task has now been delegated to their 'body gaurd(s)'

No love in the mix said...

The Cleveland Womans Show has in their billboard announcing Kate, that one of her books is 'Love is in the Mix' That is incorrect information and I wrote and told them that they have posted incorrect and misleading information, and THAT book has been shelved. Told them to 'check their facts' before sending out wrong information to the public.
These nutty people running that Expo know NOTHING at all about Kate except the "Old" facade that was her made up image.

Miss Brown Betti said...

Speaking of the messy hair on the tups....Remember seeing former footage of Cara and Mady? The twins hair always looked so nice and neat. They had bangs and I thought that was a good look for them. The only time the tups hair looks combed is when the not a nanny combs it for them otherwise nasty Kate has the tups looking as if they just got out of bed.

justsodone said...

Rest assured, Alexis was NOT on fire...if so it would've been filmed and aired immediately for ratings.


With Kate trying to steal the spotlight.

Jocelyne said...

What I'm really surprised about is that in the July 4th pictures the kids weren't forced to all wear the same outfits like every other july 4th.. That must have really bothered Khate.. or is she actually letting them pick out their own outfits now?!

Oh, The Momma said...

OMG - this makes me crazy! #5 top story on my google news feed (on my igoogle homepage) is about them.

I just keep thinking of all the other 'celebrity families" (like the duggers and the roloff's if it needs to be in the same 'category' of celebrity) - who probably spent the day with a ton of family and friends and the kids had an awesome day - and it wasn't ALL ABOUT making the front page news!

Its still over with them said...

For the 4th of July photos.
Why are those kids all lined up like puppets on both sides of Kate's plastic lawn chair. Its almost creepy. Aren't the kids capable of running around on their own in the yard and doing individual things? The whole staged type photo is what their life has become. So sad.

RememberMe said...

Great article about marriage with mention of the Gosselins.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1908243-4,00.html

*~*Nicole*~* said...

About Facebook-- BEFORE you join a group or add your boss, go to the Privacy settings. You can pick and choose individual people or groups and limit what they can see. For instance, my boss and co-workers cannot see my status updates (because I'm usually complaining about work). Also you can limit who can view different folders of pictures. I only allow family member friends to see pictures of my children, etc. Also I have vacation pictures where I'm sometimes in a bathing suit, and that folder is off-limits to my "work people." But do this BEFORE you add someone/a group like that. Play around with it, it's a neat feature :)

Friend in New Mexico said...

Poster the tup who looks like her pants are on fire( but is not) is Hannah.
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Yeah Kate has the family line up like they are in a circus side show. She did that for the tups birthday party and then she had them do a fake yeah when they had brunch. Well I was gonna have some breakfast but after that thought I
am not so sure.

Chris said...

As much as I think the begging for the nurse and extra welfare was wrong, and the lack of graditude is wrong as well, the G's are under no oligation to pay it back.

When my husband was in medical school we lived in married housing for medical students and I personally knew over 10 women that had kids on welfare while their spouse was finishing medical school. A few years later they were making 6 figure income but medicaid bases their decisions on how much you earn at the time of pregnancy not it the future. Hopefully some of those docs will give back to the community but they are not obligated to and some do not. they move to big houses like the G's and think nothing of the thousands the state paid a few years ago in medical costs for them.

It would be nice to see the G's give something back if not to the state, maybe to the maternal/fetal med unit (high risk pregnancies) or to a for fund for the NICU? There are lots of families that lose thier house having one baby in the NICU, not get a free house having 6 there.

Ellie said...

Actually 'Love is in the Mix' is still scheduled for its release date in October as planned. there were some reports that it had been shelved but they were dismissed by Zondervan, who says the release date remains the same. Although, they add that they're working on a renewed promotion schedule (meaning I guess Kate won't be travelling as much this time).

http://news-briefs.ew.com/2009/06/kate-gosselin-book-love-is-in-the-mix.html

Ellie said...

And yeah, Kate's carrying a stack of fan photos. She was giving them to the bodyguard to give to the people waiting out the front gate, I guess. Bit weird. Don't know that she should be encourage people to come to her house like that, with fan giveaways.

http://gosselins.sosugary.com/displayimage.php?pid=2564&fullsize=1

carolyn said...

Just have to share the response I received from the Cleveland Womans home show:

Thanks for your email. You are not the first to suggest that we cancel Ms. Gosselin’s appearance. We’ve also had many notes and emails thanking us for giving her the opportunity to tell her story – in person - away from the cameras and tabloids. Our plan at this point is to continue to give her that opportunity.

What total BS!!! I am so mad right now

WhoDidWhatFirst said...

Jocelyne said...
What I'm really surprised about is that in the July 4th pictures the kids weren't forced to all wear the same outfits like every other july 4th.. That must have really bothered Khate.. or is she actually letting them pick out their own outfits now?!
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I think she only chose their outfits and someone else dressed them, probably Jon. I think now that Gymboree is no longer giving them the kids' clothing she doesn't care what they wear. They seem to now wear the same things all the time - non-matching and really disheveled looking. The boys' hair looks like they either need a haircut or perhaps a bath as they seem to have bedhead. I also think the not-a-nanny is MIA.

Chris said...

Love is in the mix has disappeared from amazon pre-orders (it is also not on the zondervan site for pre-order now). I know it was up on amazon for pre-orders because I had read the discussions before. Now when you search for it it on amazon it sends you to a link for 8 little faces.

If they are not taking pre-orders then it must be on the backburner. I wonder what happened to all the sheeple that pre-ordered already?

Save the Gosselin 8! said...

I CAN'T BELIEVE that there aren't more posts about the famous plastic chair-b/c it's in the 4th of July pics!!
When I first started reading here- you all made me LMAO over the chair. Unless I missed it, neery a peep. But its there. And yes, why in the world weren't they all in the pool yesterday? B/c they were being pathetic pieces of shit trying to get their pics taken, that's why.

Erica.In.TN said...

im a long time lurker here and a first time poster. let me start by saying that this is the most respectful and well run blog i have ever come across. and all the attention being paid to this wonderful blog recently is so well deserved. mods, you should be proud of the blog you run. now, on to the G's. i was at the southern womens show when Kate spoke. (i got free tickets from my boss) my best friend and i went to see her because we like to snark at her and read this blog. She was horrificly horrific to everyone. her attitude, and not to mention her hair, stank up the entire womens pavilion. every horror story that ppl tell about meeting Kate Gosselin is 100% accurate. she told her sob story, begged for money, dressed like a floozy and kept Steve in tow. Holding her purse no less. Pathetic, it was indeed.

TUNDRA said...

Like it or not, Jon and Kate Gosselin's divorce has indeed caused problems for Zondervan.
(See link below).

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/arts/television/24jon.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=gosselin&st=cse

That's just one of the articles I found while researching this issue at christianretailing.com (see link below).

http://www.christianretailing.com/index.php/newsletter/latest-etailing/19436-zondervan-to-reassess-next-gosselin-book

Personally, I believe the odds of Kate's cook book being published by Zondervan are not as good as some would like (need?) to believe. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Zondervan ditched the project all together.

Why?

Simply stated, Kate Gosselin just isn't all that anymore. Certainly not since the spanking seen 'round the world, her T and A (Ti*s and A**) tabloid cover shots, rumors of an affair of her own, THE BIG D (divorce), depriving Mady of water, etc.

Remember, this is a Christian-based publishing enterprise. If the Christian retail community is no longer enamored with the Gosselins, or in particular, Kate, I would imagine that would be of considerable concern to Zondervan.

Also, there is the possibility TLC could end up cancelling the show which would definitly have an impact on future Gosselin-related projects and marketing/promotional endeavors of all kinds.

ETA:

Possible exception the strictly rumored "tell-all" book by Jon Gosselin which I think if it ever came to fruition, could do quite well.

Thoughts?

Emmy said...

This might be completely off the wall, but I've been wondering if the tups might benefit from being split up for school. It seems to me that if they were in pairs, in regular classrooms, they might have a better chance for some individuality and personal identity. Those poor little critters are so used to being paraded around as a "matched set". If they were split up, I suspect that they'd learn to talk better, behave better, and there'd be less competition with siblings. I'm not sure how that would work logistically, but does anybody else agree with me?

Just a thought....

dhwh1993 said...

Ellie said...
Actually 'Love is in the Mix' is still scheduled for its release date in October as planned.
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The article you are referencing is dated June 25. Since that time, the book has been shelved. If you go to the Zondervan web site and do a search for that book title it comes back as "nothing under that title" or something to that effect. You can no longer "pre" order it at Zondervan or Amazon.

It's super easy to get confusing/conflicting information, as there is SO MUCH out there for this family. It's a total shame. Jon's words "If/when my kids google me . . . " are eerily prophetic. I doubt he had any idea of the monster this would grow into, in just a few short weeks. It was bad before, I know - but it's reached epidemic proportions now. And it will all still be here when any/all of those kids "google."

Those in support of the kids health and well being (now & in the future) need to be careful not to contribute to the negativity - myself included.

CherryCheeseKATE said...

*gasp*...I was at my local Hair Cuttery today waiting to get my hair done and [honest!] TWO different women came in with pictures of KATE'S hairdo ~ asking if they could have their hair cut that way~ ["HELP!!! THE CLONES ARE COMING!!!!"]
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I think this calls for a *song* {{grins}}

(H)AIR SUPPLY..."All Out Of Gel"

I'm lying alone with my mullet head on the phone
Thinking of my hair till it hurts
I know my hair's wild with a ridiculous style
But what else can I do
I've chopped the back and torn it apart
I wish I could carry my hairspray in my purse
For times when my hair feels so limp
It would make me believe that my hairstyle looks great
And not like I slept in a pile of leaves

Chorus:
I 'm all out of gel, My hair's so lost without it
I thought I was strong believing for so long
I 'm all out of gel, what am I without it
I can't be too late to say that this haircut's all wrong

I want my natural hair color to come back and carry me home
Away from these skunk-like stripes
I'm reaching for a hat, gosh does this bikini make my ass look fat?
This haircut just doesn't seem right
And what would it hurt if I called a hairdresser or two
And said that I just can't hold on
There's no easy way, my hair looks more hideous each day
Please fix it or I'll shave my head bald

{{fa la la}}

MCarey65 said...

I am not willing to experiment with Facebook when it comes to the Gosselins. There are a whole network of crazies out there who are getting into people's personal business and bashing them because they are KON "haters" it is nasty and happening to several people that I know. I will NOT link my Kon-related screen name to facebook in any way.

BarbMae said...

I noticed that too, how the kids did not wear matching outfits for the 4th of July. But, then again, the other 4th of July times the kids were being filmed and going to other places other than staying at home. I have also noticed the dids wearing the same outfits (especially the boys) and Cara over and over also Jon and his shorts. The tup girls seem to mix it up a little more. In one of the pics Mady was combing one of the tups hair. Maybe the pics of the not-a-nanny playing w/the kids while it was Jon's day and the kids actually looking happy, Kate got rid of her. Kate is really going to have to pay some big money to PR people since her reputation has been really trashed. Losing the Healthtex, possibly the cookbook, no media tours, the possibility of TLC canceling the show.. etc... By her opening her big mouth she has really damaged her "pristine" image she worked so hard to attain. The house of Kate is crumbling and may never be able to be patched.

TUNDRA said...

Jon and Kate Gosselin like to say everything they do is for the kids.

How can exposing them to all the "negativity" be healthy for them?

Or, is that just the unfortunate but necessary price they have to pay in order to live in a big house, have all those free clothes, playhouses, toys, food, etc?

IMO, here's the bottom line:

Kate and Jon have enough money to provide for their kids.

There is no reason to keep exposing themselves and their children to public scrutiny (negativity).

It's Kate who insists the show must go on.

In Kate's mind, this is her job.

The question is, what is she working for?

Janice in NC said...

I was just looking at the Cleveland Woman's Show site to fire off an e-mail, when I saw KHATE is coming to MY neck of the woods...Charlotte and Raleigh! ARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH! I just sent one helluva e-mail strongly suggesting that NC doesn't support or condone a child exploiting be-yotch!!!! I'll keep on writing until they toss her!
Oh, you probably all saw this, but Wonderwall(?I think) site with 4th of July pics "claims" TLC didn't film the antics for the show. Believe it when I DON'T see it!

abbra said...

That is too funny CherryCheese.

SaNdY said...

TUNDRA said...
Like it or not, Jon and Kate Gosselin's divorce has indeed caused problems for Zondervan.
(See link below).

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/arts/television/24jon.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=gosselin&st=cse

That's just one of the articles I found while researching this issue at christianretailing.com (see link below).

http://www.christianretailing.com/index.php/newsletter/latest-etailing/19436-zondervan-to-reassess-next-gosselin-book

Personally, I believe the odds of Kate's cook book being published by Zondervan are not as good as some would like (need?) to believe. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Zondervan ditched the project all together.
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ITA, if Zondervan does decide to ditch the book, I wonder if Kate will shop it around to another publisher...any thoughts??

Sukie said...

Wow, the pap photos of their July 4th celebration are laughable and dangerous all at the same time!

First of all, why are they doing fireworks in the middle of the freaking day?! You can't get the real effect of sparklers or any other fireworks unless it's dark outside...or at the very least, at dusk. So obviously staged it is beyond laughable. Kudos to their PR team for setting that one up to show "how well they are getting along". Barf!

Also, why is everyone wearing flip-flops or crocs while they are lighting these fireworks...yikes! How terribly dangerous. Not only are your toes exposed to sparklers raining down on them...but if you have to run from something shooting at you, good luck tripping all over yourself. Once again, good judgement and parenting happening at that house.

Jacsamic said...

I agree that it just does not seem in V best interests to publish the book- She just has gone too far for a Christian publishing house to have any credibility left if they publish it.....

That said: I am still sending emails to them....as are all my friends...(up to 121 so far, friends sending that is!)

And the post from Eric in Tn...Kate is what we think she is...the thing that astounds me is why do these shows keep booking her? Are there really that many weak minded women who look at her and go, o wow???..sure a head scratcher to me....

Back to the main issue: Eight innocent childrend being exploited for corporate and parental financial gain. Pure and simple that is what all this is about. Do we, as a society, support using our children as nothing more than a means to an end of creating income? Incomprehensible to me in this day and time, but, sure looks like lots of people out there think that. EWWWWWW.

Janice in NC said...

BRAVO, CherrycheeseKATE! I'm going to be humming that song all afternoon!!!!

Rachel said...

Emmy said...

This might be completely off the wall, but I've been wondering if the tups might benefit from being split up for school. It seems to me that if they were in pairs, in regular classrooms, they might have a better chance for some individuality and personal identity. Those poor little critters are so used to being paraded around as a "matched set". If they were split up, I suspect that they'd learn to talk better, behave better, and there'd be less competition with siblings. I'm not sure how that would work logistically, but does anybody else agree with me?

Just a thought....




I know that in most schools in our district multiples are split up right from the start. It helps them develop social skills etc; without relying on thier siblings as a crutch. It probably wouldn't be practical to have them all in separate classes but if there are 3 classes for that grade then they could be split into b/g pairs at least. I think it would probably help them all to have some individual time.

Tetotomom said...

I think it would help to split them up also. If they could put a girl and boy in the same class then none of them would be competing with their own gender. They sure do need some individual time .

gherkin said...

So all of the bodyguards that the Gosselins employ---who pays for them? Surely TLC doesn't pick up the tab. Please tell me this isn't another freebie Kate gets. And what in the world does she think will happen if she ventures out to Target or the grocery without a bodyguard? Good heavens. You see celebrities going about their business every day in Hollywood without "protection". It is ridiculous.

just wondering said...

I just sent letters to Proctor & Gamble, Juicy Juice (Nestle'), and Johnson & Johnson. I also replied to Stacy Abernethy about the Cleveland Show.

Something I just thought of because this episode is on today and some of you are new to GWOP.

You know the organic cow show? TLC paid for the beef. Then Kate made Jodi pay her for her half because only she was supposed to get it for free because it was "her" show.

What kind of a person would do that to someone who watches her kids for her all of the time? The depth and breadth of her selfishness is truly unparalleled.

STLmom said...

I read a J&K +8 article today and it shared some behind the scene information that was new to me. I had no idea how staged the whole show really is.
http://www.usmagazine.com/news/sister-urges-viewers-not-to-watch-jon-and-kate-plus-8-2009255

mrsdustysmom said...

TMZ just showed video of the Gs 4th of July daytime fireworks celebration and commented, "Who shoots off fireworks in the daylight?" "The paps can't get their pictures in the DARK so they shot their stuff off in the day light."
One of the reporters replied, "Crazy Kate makes those kids go to bed at like, 7:30."

Staying out of the public eye? Not so much.

Heh Sean! Can you get someone to donate some decent patio chairs to those poor people please? The plastic chairs have got to be very uncomfortable in the heat and humidity of the front yard!

Oh, The Momma said...

I'm wondering if the kids aren't wearing the same clothes because their 'clothing sponsor' has backed away! Wouldn't surprise me in the least......what kind of 'kid friendly' clothing store wants to be associated with kids being deprived of water, spanked, and now that everything is coming to light - they can't help but see the exploitation.

A Mom-ynous said...

You know the organic cow show? TLC paid for the beef. Then Kate made Jodi pay her for her half because only she was supposed to get it for free because it was "her" show.


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Was there ever a formal confirmation by even Jodi or her sister that the cow was free and Kate made her pay anyway?

I'm trying to picture how a conversation where I know someone got something entirely for free but expected me to pay for half of it anyway.

Ruby said...

A Mom-ynous said...

You know the organic cow show? TLC paid for the beef. Then Kate made Jodi pay her for her half because only she was supposed to get it for free because it was "her" show.

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Is this true? Good grief!!

Becky Q in PA said...

Nestle's ridiculous reply to my complaint about Juicy Juice sponsorship of the show:

"Thank you for writing us regarding the types of television programs Nestle sponsors. We not only share your concerns over inappropriate content, but we have long acted on these concerns and have procedures in place to ensure Nestle advertising does not sponsor such programs. We would like to describe both our policy and procedure to you.

We have a long-standing policy at Nestle to avoid sponsoring programs which do not meet our standards for family viewing. When program content is what we deem to be controversial, or unsuitable for family viewing, we do not sponsor. Our procedure for ensuring this policy includes pre-screening all network television programs for content before they air.

You can be sure we will continue to support what we believe to be quality programming. We appreciate your taking the time to share your point of view with us. Should you have additional questions, please do not hesitate to contact us again.
Sincerely,
Sabrina Walpole
Consumer Response Representative
"


I wrote back asking that she clarify: does this mean that they're NOT sponsoring the show any longer? Controversy? In spades! And has she ever SEEN the show? I included a link to the youtube clips of season 4. (I wish I hadn't watched them now, since I'm ready to boil over. Kate is really unbelievable!)

I asked Ms. Walpole to respond with a straightforward answer this time. I'll let you know what I hear back.

Have any of you received a different response from Nestle or been similarly baffled by the same response I got? Thanks.

Snerk said...

Yes, Ruby it's true.

Yolanda said...

Jocelyne said: What I'm really surprised about is that in the July 4th pictures the kids weren't forced to all wear the same outfits like every other july 4th.. That must have really bothered Khate.. or is she actually letting them pick out their own outfits now?

If Healthtex is no longer a sponsor, she is no longer under obligation to display the tups wearing matching clothes. I think that was part of the "deal".

Also, remember Jon has the kids on the weekends. I suspect he is showing his newfound independence by insisting they wear what he chooses for them. Kate may be there because Jon chooses to allow her to be there during HIS weekend.

Wish I could have been a fly on the wall when they had that conversation. It must be KILLING Kate to see Jon assert his freedom.

Jana said...

Calgary7 said...

It should be a business expense for TLC and/or the production company which I understand they own.

First, TLC is relying on JK+8 as the foundation of their network and to keep their ratings up, there are millions in ad revenues at risk if something was to happen to any members of the family. Cost of security is trivial in comparison.

Second, TLC as an employer is obligated to provide a safe working environment for their employees or contractors (film crew, producers, etc).

Third, TLC may be using the security staff as a way to make a buzz around Kate when she is out in public so she becomes noticed.

Fourth, TLC could use the security staff to keep Kate on a tight leash in public to minimize the number of meltdowns or other unprofessional behaviour that would affect poorly on the network.
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All four are great points and I agree that as far as TLC is concerned, the cost of protecting their number 1 show is worth it. But I think the fourth reason is also the greatest reason for having the body guards. When I hear how Steve Nield would keep fans away from Kate, stop them from taking her picture, etc. -- it seemed that his job was to prevent accidental contact, and thus, accidental Kate-rages.

It just never made sense to me that Kate would need a bodyguard. I could see TLC hiring a body guard or two for when the whole family made an outing, or for the kids, but not for either Jon or Kate. For quite a long time, we only saw Mr. Gray as Kate's shadow. She loved having him at her beck and call, because she felt it made her look important and she also loved having a trim, good looking male by her side.

I think TLC found someone who could distract Kate, head her off at the pass when one of her rages started coming on, and so they utilized him as much as possible. A good business decision in some ways, but ultimately it led to awkward questions. When was the last sighting of Mr. Gray? Has he finally gone undercover?

Jana said...

Sukie said...

Also, why is everyone wearing flip-flops or crocs while they are lighting these fireworks...yikes! How terribly dangerous. Not only are your toes exposed to sparklers raining down on them...but if you have to run from something shooting at you, good luck tripping all over yourself. Once again, good judgement and parenting happening at that house.
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Do any of the tups have a pair of tennis or athletic shoes? Seems like we see them only in sandals, flip flops or crocs. My son has been wearing tennis shoes or athletic shoes for years (he's 11 now), because they made the most sense. For an active child, you should have them wearing shoes that will support and protect their feet.

Many shoe companies are also providing velcro-fastenings for kids' athletic shoes nowadays too.

I just don't get these parents. You have six active 5 year olds, and none of them own a pair of actual active-wear shoes? C'mon Jon and Kate - use some common sense.

Geri said...

Jana said...
Sukie said...

Also, why is everyone wearing flip-flops or crocs while they are lighting these fireworks...yikes! How terribly dangerous. Not only are your toes exposed to sparklers raining down on them...but if you have to run from something shooting at you, good luck tripping all over yourself. Once again, good judgement and parenting happening at that house.
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Do any of the tups have a pair of tennis or athletic shoes? Seems like we see them only in sandals, flip flops or crocs. My son has been wearing tennis shoes or athletic shoes for years (he's 11 now), because they made the most sense. For an active child, you should have them wearing shoes that will support and protect their feet.

Many shoe companies are also providing velcro-fastenings for kids' athletic shoes nowadays too.

I just don't get these parents. You have six active 5 year olds, and none of them own a pair of actual active-wear shoes? C'mon Jon and Kate - use some common sense.

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I think we can attribute the lack of shoes to a dislike of washing and sorting socks by our friend Kate.

Maggie said...

Ellie said...
And yeah, Kate's carrying a stack of fan photos. She was giving them to the bodyguard to give to the people waiting out the front gate, I guess.

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What they didn't show in the photo is the cash register set up next to the front gate. "That will be $20, please."

ihatethisshow said...

And the post from Eric in Tn...Kate is what we think she is...the thing that astounds me is why do these shows keep booking her? Are there really that many weak minded women who look at her and go, o wow???..sure a head scratcher to me....
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they book her because she is controversial.....her fans will go to see her, and her non-fans will go to bash her...it sells tickets. any business that endorses this woman, exploits those kids for their own financial bottom line.

ihatethisshow said...

sometimes i wonder just what in the world happened to this woman in her childhood. was she so depraved of material possessions? alienation of affection? basic necessities? what? although kevin appears 'normal', many times siblings can recall their formative years completely differently. what happened to KI?

Maggie said...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/arts/television/24jon.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=gosselin&st=cse

This was my favorite part of the article:

"Writing in Christianity Today this month, Julie Vermeer Elliott pointed out that evangelicals, moved by the Gosselins’ Isaiah 40:31 T-shirts, have made up a devoted share of the audience for “Jon & Kate” but questioned whether she and her brethren had been too easily impressed. “We cheered on Jon and Kate’s decision to carry all six babies to term,” she said, “but rarely considered the prior question: Was it right for them to undergo risky fertility treatments in the first place?” She went on: “Sexual immorality — whether actual or merely suspected — caught our attention, but the materialism, narcissism and exploitation of children that preceded it was largely overlooked.”

FINALLY, somebody names the elephant(s) in the room!! I was so disgusted that no journalist had the cajones to bring up these issues during Kate's "interview-fest" in NYC a few months ago. I would have paid big money to watch her squirm under real fire: "Gee, Kate, if it's all 'God's Plan,' then WHY did you turn to SCIENCE when you couldn't get pregnant??" "Why did you risk having so many kids when you clearly could not afford so many?" "Why are you such a greedy ho?"

Larry King was particularly disappointing with his impotent questions (it was pretty clear he really didn't know who she was, though). We need to get Kate on The View. Joy and Whoopie would rip her a new one.

Philly Hockey Mom said...

Cake Boss marathon.....painful, but not as painful as the Gosselins on Monday night! I am happy the kids are getting a break!

Aunt Chris said...

"I think we can attribute the lack of shoes to a dislike of washing and sorting socks by our friend Kate."

She could just let Mommy's helper Hannie sort the socks.

a rose is a rose said...

I don't think ANYTHING drastic happened to Kate growing up. You could see from what was said from past boyfriends, and friends/co-workers that she ALWAYS had that sense of entitlement about her.
We all know someone like this.

Yolanda said...

This is a great article, referring to Alyssa Martin's open letter to
Kate Gosselin. Alyssa Martin hosted Kate Gosselin as a speaker and she shares a few interesting things about Kate Gosselin.

The article is called "Speaking Engagement Host Tells Kate Gosselin: Be Nice!" and is from the Babble website.

http://snipurl.com/m9abd

Here's an example of what she said:
Says Martin, "You failed to show any graciousness in your appearance last week. I did not find you to be a particularly kind, warm or nice person. You were unfriendly and actually quite aloof and rude to your hosts and sponsors. There were many people in the audience who perceived a sense of snootiness as well. I know because they came up to me afterward and mentioned it."

Stars and Stripes said...

Maggie said, ...."We need to get Kate on The View. Joy and Whoopie would rip her a new one."
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I wish that were so, but Whoopie has stated that she supports what the Gosselins' are doing by televising their reality show. She seemed as naive' as Carlos Diaz of Showbiz Tonight, when she made the supportive comment about them needing to continue the show for financial reasons. She seemed to negate the child exploitation issues at hand. Whoopie also backed Kate on the spanking incident. Not sure where Joy stood, as she made lighthearted jokes during the Gosselin hot topic segment.

readerlady said...

I think the tups would benefit from being split up in school, too. In fact, I've never known a school system where sibs were allowed in the same classroom. The school I volunteer at now has a couple of sets of twins, plus several sets of Irish twins and Vatican twins and they are all in separate classrooms. This allows the kids to develop their own identity and helps the shyer, more reticent kids to learn to be more assertive.

Vatican Twin? said...

readerlady:

I know what Irish twins are (I'm actually an Irish triplet) but I've never heard the term Vatican twin - what's the difference?

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