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Danielle said...

From TMZ:
"Jon Gosselin doesn't have a relationship or a job -- but one of those things is about to change.

Christian Audigier, one of the head honchos over at the Ed Hardy clothing line, tells us he's offering Jonny boy a job -- and the two are meeting today in St. Tropez, France to go over their options.

No word on what the joint venture might be -- "Jon & Kate Plus 8 Million Rhinestones," anybody?"

http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/11/jon-gosselin-hardy-up-for-cash/

Speak Your Mind! said...

Things are rough in California right now; we're broke as a state. Serious times for serious subjects. What could Kate Gosselin possibly add to that speaker line-up of mostly highly-credentialed women participating in the annual Women's Conference? It feels like affrontery...empty fluff...when women want instead to hear something of substance.

Hopefully, if our First Lady gets enough emails and other types of correspondence about reconsidering her choice of participants, she'll listen. Maria Shriver is a very real, intelligent, admirable woman in my book. I feel she's just uninformed about Kate Gosselin.

A lot can happen between now and October. A boatload of any kind of mail will speak volumes, despite the requisite "form letter" you might receive in response. I'm sure they don't want to keep women away who would otherwise show up since no one wants to go to the trouble of putting on a conference like that and suffer low attendance.

Aeris said...

Becky Q in PA said....(in previous FD thread)

The original post by babeeberry said "...She is setting regulations on who she wants in the classroom, what vaccinations the children will need and what their medical histories and family issues are (if any.)"

PA is very strict on vaccinations--even for college students--so it's not like their classmates could give them a communicable disease, but their FAMILY ISSUES? Um, ya mean like:
*"my mom is pimping me out because she has no talent but likes a nice lifestyle"
*"my mom told my dad it's OK to cheat as long as he shows up for filming and doesn't bother HER for sex"
*"my parents have been allowing strangers to film me bathing and going to the bathroom for every pervert in the world to see and every classmate to look at on the internet"
*My dad was sleeping in the basement until they announced on TV they were getting a divorce, and then my mom's been blaming him ever since on every tabloid known to man
*I had to play on the driveway all summer instead of in the nice backyard or in our pool so the photographers would take pictures of my family
*My father is an abused spouse

...hmmm, you're right, Kate! I wouldn't want children with THOSE problems messing up their peers! Oops, those are YOUR kids! Just what kind of situation could be worse than these? One in which someone ELSE's parent is physically or mentally abusive?



Awesome post! I don't think any potential classmate of the tups will have as many "issues" as the tups themselves. The other childrens' parents have just as much right to say they don't want their children in the same class as the Gosselin sextuplets.

Just Sayin' said...

The biggest difference between M&C and the Olson twins is that when the Olson's were young they were almost identical and they were very, very cute and somewhat talented. M&C are far from that (no offense to the girls intended but K8 needs a reality check).


IMHO, there won't be another "Olsen Twins" for a long, long time. Their success was pretty much a total fluke, starting with their Full House audition. The girls' parents didn't plan for them becoming famous, but their "identical" twin appeal made them popular. They're not identical, but they were marketed as such because they could get away with it. Mady and Cara look nothing alike and don't have the right personalities for show business. I don't think the Olsens were made for showbiz, either, but they were basically born into it and didn't know any different.

There's one more thing that bugs me that I've never mentioned. As much as I believe Kate plays the "Christian" and "organic" cards whenever it's convenient for her, she definitely plays up the "mixed race" card. I truly believe she thinks her kids are super special and marketable because they're part Korean. It's another "up" she has over the McCaugheys and the Table for 12 folks. I hate to think Kate had this plan concocted the day she met Jon, but I wouldn't put it past her. She got her "China doll babies" (her words, not mine) in marketable litters, just like she wanted.

Jons not wasting anytime said...

http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/11/jon-gosselin-hardy-up-for-cash/

Kathryn said...

Come ON Maria Shriver!!! Yes, I admire you and have always held you in high esteem but you really missed the boat on having Kate Gosselin speak at your conference. I mean, you missed it BIG!!! I'm disappointed that you weren't better informed on this issue, and I'm assuming you were not. Because if you truly do 'know' the real Khate Gosselin, you wouldn't have touched this moron with a ten-foot pole.
It's one thing that your children like J/K+8 but it's entirely another thing to do most women a huge disservice and invite this woman to your conference. Please reconsider. PLEASE.

1CaliGirl said...

Long time reader, first time posting! There are too many things I'd like to comment on to stay silent any longer.

- I'm a 3rd generation California native, and a taxpayer, so the idea of Kate Gosselin at the California Women's Conference, in ANY capacity, makes me ill. The state is in such crisis and we need women of substance to look up to, not women of NO substance. What will she speak of, "how to best exploit your children" or perhaps "the best way to get around laws and make the most money doing it"? My husband (who normally rolls his eyes at any of my J&K comments to him because he is sick of hearing me talk about it) was livid when I told him about her at the conference. Even he says "WHAT on earth could she possibly have to offer of any substance that would be helpful to any woman, here or anywhere? He actually kept talking about it after I stopped. Right there it shows just how ludicrous it is. I'll be writing Maria Shriver a lovely snail mail letter, you can be sure of that!

- Kate may want to move to LA to further her *hack* television career, but I'd like to see where in LA she'll live that she deems "worthy". She got that mansion on 20 some odd acres for about 1.1 million. What will be get in the most desirable areas of LA for that price, maybe a studio condo? Since she was said to be staying at the Hotel Bel Air that in itself shows that only what she feels are the showiest of areas would do- Bel Air, Beverly Hills or perhaps the trendy Brentwood? A few others I can think of, but none she'd get much of anything for her million $ price tag if she tried to replace their mansion in PA.

- On Jon and his "IT jobs", I don't think he has anything beyond a high school diploma, does he? I know some of the jobs pay great even without any degree, if you're incredibly talented, but I don't think he qualifies there! We had a friend who ran the IT dept. for a huge and well known Napa Valley winery, was paid very well, and all he had was a trade school certificate. However, our friend lived and breathed computers- one of the most talented in that area I've ever seen. Not a "poser" like Jon.

- I think all of these rumors are Kate's PR people's way of getting around the "we won't be talking about it or responding publicly anymore". This way they leak whatever they want to try and her name is not in any way attached to it.

Sorry for the long post- next time I promise to keep it short! By the way- the mods on this site do an outstanding job! Well done!!!

MovingAlong said...

Hmmm anyone notice that Jons interview with the Ed Hardy folks is in France? A little 'working' vacation with H Glassman for that 'romantic vacation to paris' mentioned a few days ago?
How interesting...

GAmom said...

I apparently missed a discussion on why the 5 year old tups will not be in kindergarten in the fall...anyone care to explain?

Sharon said...

Well I guess we know who it was that might offer Jon a job. But, why shouldn't he have something for himself. Kate has been dragging her sorry, saggy, A$$ all around the country making money with her lies. Why isn't alright for Jon to finally have a life and career away from the
bi!!h.

15 Proverbial minutes said...

According to some gossip sites, someone has come forth alleging Jon fabricated the rumors about Kate and Steve (the bodyguard) to deflect attention from himself, and to expedite their divorce (which she was against, for obvious reasons). I was disheartened to read this, because I have been on Team Jon for a while. To think someone could do something so malicious to the mother of their children is pretty unfathomable. It amazes me that a little over a year ago, I loved the show and watched it with my kids, and now I am equal parts horrified and mesmerized by these atrocities. If it were not for the poor kids, I would call this Must See Drama a la 90210, Melrose Place, General hospital, etc....

ForeverHopeful said...

This last Monday evening WITHOUT J&K+8 seemed strange to me. Made me really think how swept up I have gotten with this family!

Am I in Gosselin withdrawal?

That's a very scary thought!

ratherbkayaking said...

I'm thinking that Christian Audigier is making a pretty clever move. Jon Gosselin is probably a familiar face to most people in America after all the magazine covers and tabloid TV coverage. For example, I'd never heard of Ed Hardy until it was connected to Jon Gosselin. Now, in my case it would make me run in the other direction rather than slap any money down on the counter for one of these articles of clothing.

Ironically, it took the death of one of Audigier's partner and tenant of his mansion, Michael Jackson, to knock the Gosselin's out of the spotlight.

Jon has other interests that Audigier may tap into. For example, snow boarding. Boarders spend big $$$ on clothes.

I'm all for Jon getting a job where the kids are not exploited. My only fear about this association is the potential for eight little billboards. THAT would make me spit nails once again.

chesterctymom said...

I really hope that a fair portion of money earned has been put in a trust for the kids. Afterall, it was made off of their backs.

PaMa said...

What a hoot! Jon's meeting Christian Audigier in France ... a country associated with high fashion ... to discuss employment options with Ed Hardy, maker of trashy, grunge clothing. I guess Ed Hardy must think that bad publicity is better than no publicity.

Really, who in their right mind would want to wear clothing associated with Jon ... a lazy, wannabe frat boy with no apparent talent other than hanging with people almost half his age and generally acting like a slug?

Jon and Kate seem to be spending a lot of time on the road lately. I only hope they're finding time to give their children some quality attention.

Takenin said...

In regards to Jon meeting with Christian Audigier, Ed Hardy also has a line of snowboards and skateboards. If Jon really is meeting with him, I wouldn't be surprised if it had to do with designing/promoting snowboards.

Shari said...

I apparently missed a discussion on why the 5 year old tups will not be in kindergarten in the fall...anyone care to explain?
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I wasn't aware of this since I've chosen a 'No-More-Gosselin' lifestyle and am LOVING it, but I have a couple guesses:

1. They're so obviously delayed physically and emotionally due to lack of attention from their parents that they weren't ready to move up.

2. Khate thought it might hurt the ratings if Kindergartiners still wore bibs.

It's got to be one of the two.

just wondering said...

Why is everyone so upset with Jon? He is trying to make a dollar off of his own name and is not involving the children in any way. I think this is a perfect opportunity for him, and a smart decision which will distance him from the show.

It's a perfect match for him and I hope he does well.

Kimme said...

Jon and Hardy - I would guess this is about Jon investing $$ not him actually doing work for the co. as he has no skills. The snowboarding sounds like something he might want to own himself, or get involved with as a promoter and investor. I am all for him getting a job that doesn't mean working off the back of his pre-school children.

It would not surprise me at all if Jon blew up the Mr. Gray relationship with Kate. These people are all about manipulation - and the quite, dumped on guys are usually kings of passive-aggressive behavior. Time will tell.

Any news about Mr. Gray? I thought I read somewhere here that he was separated or divorced and then someone posted that he was home with his wife... what is the scoop?

Harriet said...

There is no "junior kindergarten" at the school the tups will be attending either unless the school adds a class and program just for them. It appears that they will be four year old pre-school again. Although this school has a longer four year old class (full school day vice 2.5 hours) and has a much more strongly academic program than the church pre-school.

Sara L. said...

I read on another site that Ed Hardy also carries a childrens line. I wonder if they only want Jon. I could see them using Jon and the little boys. I wonder if this would be something that Kate would fight with Jon about.

Atleastthey'regoing said...

I'm glad the tups are in school at all. She could have chosen to homeschool them! Now that would be frightening.(not homeschooling itself but kate teaching them)

WhatPreK? said...

I dont' know about this "Junior Kindergarten" thing, as both states I have lived in do not have such things. It's preschool and Kindy. Then you go to first grade! If you want your kid "held back", you do it before you enroll them in K. IE: keep them home, or in whatever P.S. you have been using, whatever...
I really believe KHAte wants the kids to stay "babies" long as possible, that seems obvious and much has been mentioned re. that. Bibs, etc. The problem is,if they are being served well by this decision. Oh wait, we are talkng about KHate Gosselin-----never mind that train of thought.
I dont' think those "tups" are THAT behind in any way as to warrant keeping them back. They scream and fight more than normal kids though, I'll give you that. Plus, the BIB thing. Maybe KHate cant' bear the thought of the bibs hitting the road...again, she makes her decisions on HERSELF not her kids.
She probably only put those twins in school at normal times b/c she had the MoneyMakers (I Mean the tups) at home , satisfying her Baby Jonesing.
The whole thing with this "family" makes me sort of sick. None of them seem...."normal."

Grunge! said...

Really, who in their right mind would want to wear clothing associated with Jon ... a lazy, wannabe frat boy with no apparent talent other than hanging with people almost half his age and generally acting like a slug?
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Have you had a look around the malls lately? (or schools) Take a look at the "look" these kids sport; Grunge with a high price tag. Inexplicable (to me)

MaryB said...

Little tidbits like the one that says Jon lied about Kate and Steve to divert attention from himself is the TLC/Gosselin/PR ploy to keep us all talking.
I don't believe a word of it. They have been dumped in the headlines and don't want us to get bored. Just watch. These little snippets will keep "leaking out" along the way.
IMHO
I would not be surprised at all if Kate dumps TLC. She believes she is all that and at some point will think she has outgrown them.

Pony said...

My guess is that the tups are going to be in pre-school again because they aren't ready for real kindergarten. Ever since K became first grade, lots of kids aren't really ready for it at age 5. From what I've seen on the show, the tups are definitely not ready to learn to read and write and do math. This is probably because Kate doesn't seem to do the normal mom-teaching-toddlers-and-preschoolers activities like reading to them, playing with puzzles, coloring, drawing, painting, using scissors, etc. that many mothers do. Instead, she takes them on field trips. (Except for reading, and Kate is on record saying they had books for the twins but not for the tups) those activities are messy.

As for Jon making up and planting the rumors that Kate cheated with Steve, who's to say that she isn't making up the rumor that he made up the rumor? It's not like she hasn't lied about other things. And she definitely is trying to trash him in the media. She still has yet to actually deny cheating. She has said she is appalled that someone said she did. Huge difference, IMO.

Wanda H said...

I can understand that the reason they maybe holding the tups back is because they aren't up to Kindergraten standards.

This is of course not their fault but due to always being babied i.e. bibs highchairs etc. And I don't think I have ever seen them being worked with besides maybe an art project. My son at age of 5 could read, abc's, numbers, colors, shapes etc. Now I know it's much harder with 6 but maybe if they didn't go on vacation all the time they could work with them

The twins at age 5 were very well spoken, could read, and did not wear bibs or use highchairs.

Harriet said...

The twins were raised by people other than Jon and Kate. While Kate worked, Aunt Jodi babysat the twins and then after Kate got pregnant with the tups, her mother had the twins. They were exposed to people who actually talked to them, read to them, and worked with them. The difference is glaringly obvious to see video of the twins at four and the tups at four.

enoughalready said...

http://www.examiner.com/x-7311-Cultural-Trends-Examiner~y2009m7d11-Kate-Gosselin-is-not-the-role-model-some-would-make-her-Rachel-Ray-spoke-too-soon-video

Rebecca said...

Apparently, on the episode with the Orange County Chopper guys, Kate mentioned junior kindergarten -- here's what one poster said in another thread:

"Did anyone else catch that she was also saying that they are going to jr kindergarten next year for 3 days a week? I know they are old enough for kindergarten because they are 4 weeks younger than my daughter.

6/16/2009 10:04 AM"

It could be that their skills were assessed and the school decided they aren't ready for full-blown K, but it's also possible that their parents are not enrolling them in "real" kindergarten so that they can keep filming other days of the week. I'm just speculating here, but it seems plausible.

Shari said...

'Junior Kindergarten' is probably another phrase Khate made up so that the tups don't feel badly about not being ready for Kindergarten. (Kind of like the fake 'Super Kindergarten' for kids who have to take Kindergarten twice.)

Wait .... that would be assuming that Khate doesn't want the tups to feel bad. Never mind.

Just Julie said...

Maybe Jon is going to be the face of the new Ed Hardy, Mid-life Crisis line of clothing. You know tee shirts with extra roomy torsos, elastic waisted droopy jeans, caps with a built-in recharger for your hearing aid, belt buckles with secret compartments for storing your cholesterol pills and back packs with extra comapartments for bibs, sippy cups and chewies.

Just Julie said...

Wanda H said...
I can understand that the reason they maybe holding the tups back is because they aren't up to Kindergraten standards.

This is of course not their fault but due to always being babied i.e. bibs highchairs etc. And I don't think I have ever seen them being worked with besides maybe an art project. My son at age of 5 could read, abc's, numbers, colors, shapes etc.

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YEAH, but could YOUR son use a mini dustpan to clean up crumbs, fold laundry and get pet stains out of carpets? Kate managed to find the time to teach her kids THOSE important skills.

I was going to add "hee hee" so Wanda didn't think I was insulting her or anything and it would be obvious that I was just kidding around. But now that I think of it, it's very sad that it appears the kids are taught very little except how to be neat and tidy.

SundayRose said...

PaMa said, "... a lazy, wannabe frat boy with no apparent talent other than hanging with people almost half his age and generally acting like a slug?"
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You called Jon a "lazy, wannabe frat boy with no apparent talent". I think being an involved and loving dad is the most important job Jon could have done these past years. And, Jon worked in the fashion business prior to marrying Kate. He held a number of jobs in various fields (something many do not know) prior to their marriage.

Justwondering ~ I agree with you. I think this would be a fantastic opportunity for Jon.

twins241 said...

Maybe Ed Hardy and Jon could design a nice line of grunge bibs for the tups.

Kannie said...

Shriver's in a pickle. She can't risk alienating Kate's fans by booting her from the lineup. She can't risk such a move being interpreted as kicking Kate when she's down. We GWOPers know Kate is hardly a victim, but 'Camp Shriver' might not be as enlightened as we are. What Shriver's handlers will be weighing is the potential damage to Shriver of keeping Kate versus ditching Kate. If dumping Kate is the ultimate decision, it will be done ONLY if it can be performed delicately. I have a media-PR background and a lot of experience observing politicians. What I expect would happen is that someone from Shriver's camp would quietly approach Kate or one of her handlers and make the case that Kate should cancel her appearance for 'personal reasons'. A reasonable, educated person would heed the suggestion. Problem is Kate is neither reasonable or educated. Poor Maria. Should never have taken her kids' advice when it came to conference speakers.

Pat said...

Sharon said...
Well I guess we know who it was that might offer Jon a job. But, why shouldn't he have something for himself. Kate has been dragging her sorry, saggy, A$$ all around the country making money with her lies. Why isn't alright for Jon to finally have a life and career away from the
bi!!h.



I am all for Jon having a job. It is the best chance for the kids staying off TV. My concerns are that the job will not be in Pennsylvania and that Glassman chick is in on it because she wants to do a line of shoes. This was probably in the works when he was looking at apartments in Trump Tower. So Jon will be in New York. With a real job, he won't be back in PA on Fridays .. maybe some weekends. But there will be social engagements that keep him away other weekends. and it doesn't sound like he plans on having the 8 kids in NYC with him if he was looking for a 1 bedroom apartment.

Within 6 months, Jon will be barely seeing his kids - except maybe the new ones he makes with the Glassman chick. Well at least he may have to pay child support.

grannie annie said...

I live in Georgia and we call "jr kindergarten" Pre-K. It's not required by law, but if you don't have it you WILL NOT be ready for kindergarten. It's paid for by the State of Georgia. All 4(FOUR) year olds attend usually either public or private. Five year olds must attend kindergarten ready or not. So I guess the Jr. Kin. program is like our Pre-K for 4 year olds.. So it doesn't make sense if they will be almost 5 1/2 when they start. They should start regular kindergarten nor Jr.

Bonjour Jon said...

MovingAlong said...
Hmmm anyone notice that Jons interview with the Ed Hardy folks is in France? A little 'working' vacation with H Glassman for that 'romantic vacation to paris' mentioned a few days ago?
How interesting...

7/11/2009 5:42 AM
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Yeah, I had a passing thought when I read your "detective work" post that doesn't Jon have French heritage as well? A lot of weird symmetry here.

Jake said...

I don't know what all the differences are but the kindergarten here goes for less time than Kate's kids will be be in school. Kindergarten here is 2 1/2 hours a day 5 days week so 12 1/2 hours a week. Her kids will go 3 days a week but for 6 hours so they will actually get much more school time than Kindergartners get in Upstate New York.

Jon Can't Win! said...

Takenin said...
In regards to Jon meeting with Christian Audigier, Ed Hardy also has a line of snowboards and skateboards. If Jon really is meeting with him, I wouldn't be surprised if it had to do with designing/promoting snowboards.
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Surfboards, skateboards, snowboards...that's what my cousin's hubby does for a living and he (very) handsomely supports his wife (a stay-at-home mom), three kids and a zillion pets plus he loves what he does because he also lives that life.

Look, Jon's been bashed for not having a job, so if he's trying and can also find something to do that makes him some money AND gives him a sense of achievement and enjoyment, and as long as he doesn't pull the kids into it, I say go for it Jon.

I'm no big fan of his but I don't buy the story that Jon fabricated the Kate/Mr. Gray thing. I think Jon got fed up a long, long time ago with the way he was living, and especially with Kate. He was showing signs of strain in several episodes of the reality show. There was too much pressure and artificiality in that marriage. Some marriages just die. Couples change; they break up. This is life.

Again, we've said HOW MANY TIMES, "Jon, man-up; get a job." Well, looks like he's doing just that, so I'm not going to bash him for it. I've bashed him enough in the past.

TryingToBeGosselin-FreeToo said...

Shari said...
I apparently missed a discussion on why the 5 year old tups will not be in kindergarten in the fall...anyone care to explain?
_______________________________

I wasn't aware of this since I've chosen a 'No-More-Gosselin' lifestyle and am LOVING it, but I have a couple guesses:

1. They're so obviously delayed physically and emotionally due to lack of attention from their parents that they weren't ready to move up.

2. Khate thought it might hurt the ratings if Kindergartiners still wore bibs.

It's got to be one of the two.
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A tiny article I pulled out of my latest copy of the Oprah magazine, "It wasn't until award-winning poet Marie Howe became a mother that she realized that neither she nor any of her eight siblings had been read to as children in Rochester, New York. 'There were too many of us,' she says, 'so we just ran around like a tribe of barbarians.'

Hasn't it also been discussed on GWoP that trying to keep the children in toddler-mode is more appealing for the reality show and gives them something to film when they're at home rather than at school (and out-of-pocket)? Trying to fill their one-hour format takes A LOT of film; they need kids around to do that, especially if more-than-ever episodes have been allotted.

Just throwing some thoughts out...but I thought I also read here in the "thousands" of comments recently that Kate WAS sending them to school and had all sorts of criteria for the school officials and other parents to meet due to the "fame" and "health" of the tups, which seems really arrogant to me. It's not like she owns the school! I assume the next thing we'll hear is that they'll be homeschooled because she couldn't work out all her stipulations for private school.

In Your Face said...

Whoa! Don't know if anyone saw this but YES, Jon is in France with Halley sp? Glassman!!! TMZ has a photo of them holding hands!!! Kind of shocking when it's finally shown to be true. Not hiding it!!! What a mess!

Is that what you said said...

Jon worked in WHAT fashion industry?
He said he was in RETAIL SALES, comeon, that's hardly a fashion industry. Its not like he was designing clothing. He has no design experience.

HappyMommyAndWife said...

Kannie said...
"Poor Maria. Should never have taken her kids' advice when it came to conference speakers."

What politician/advocate/celebrity would invite a conference speaker to a reputable women's conference based on the advice or desire of her kids? I think that is Maria's PR speak for "I used to like Kate, but now that her reputation is on the line, my credibility looks bad so I'll blame it on my children". Shame on you Maria for falling for the KON.


Two more things...

I am a kindergarten teacher and there are many districts that have preparatory kindergarten (Pre-K, Jr. K, etc) for kids who don't make the cut-off by age, or who need additional help with the fundamentals before enrolling in full Kindergarten. My guess is one or two of the tups are delayed, and rather then splitting them up J&K are holding them all back as not to cause hurt feelings among the tups. As a teacher, I would rather see a child held back and succeed when they are emotionally and academically rather then push a child to enroll to soon and fail.

Also, good for Jon that he is attempting to find a job/career off camera and finding a way to bring in income that does not involve his children. Let's hope Kate finds a new path that leaves the children out of the limelight.

Kids academic needs put first? Jon finding a job? Kate finding a new path that doesn't involve the kids? Has hell frozen over or are J&K ate thinking of their children for once? Whether by choice (not) or forced by circumstance, the collective efforts of the media and the GWOP'ers may have forced a new plan for the Gosselins that will protect the kids.

lovinlife said...

well here we go...www.justjared and www.tmz just posted pics of Jona and his girlfriend w/ Ed Hardy...wow he didn't waste any time did he?

Sabreena said...

SundayRose said...

...Jon worked in the fashion business prior to marrying Kate. He held a number of jobs in various fields (something many do not know) prior to their marriage.
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Huh? I thought he met Kate when he was 20 years old and married he at 22. Hard to imagine how someone under 22 years old "was in the fashion business" and "head a number of jobs in various fields"

That said, I think whatever wage earning position he can find that does not include exploitation of his children, yet affords him the income to support the children, is just right.

4thekids said...

Jon and girlfriend in France(and it's not Hailey or Deanna).

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009/07/11/jon-gosselin-girlfriend-st-tropez/

4thekids said...

Editing my last post: now that I look again, I think it actually may be Hailey! If so....ugh! Isn't she like 22?!? Can anyone else help to determine if this is her or not?

Jon and girlfriend in France(and it's not Hailey or Deanna).

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009/07/11/jon-gosselin-girlfriend-st-tropez/

K said...

GiulianaRancicJon Gosselin & 22 year old, Hayley Glassman, just spotted hanging out in Saint Tropez. Hayley is daughter of Kate's plastic surgeon. Eek!!!

-From Twitter

Not Sure but... said...

I think it is Hailey!

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

I see that Jon doesn't wear a wedding band on his left hand anymore.I guess a divorce is the real deal. He and his girlfriend look happy. It won't be long before we see Kate holding hands with someone new. But I doubt it will be Steve.

zoey said...

Jon is in St tropez today.. WOW

Michelle said...

yeah...a picture speaks a thousand words. Check out Ace of Cakes season premiere video! I had so much faith in him and thought it was just a slip of the mind. Now she is on the season premiere.


http://www.charmcitycakes.com/blog

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

I am reading now at various sites that it's Hailey Glassman in the justjared pictures with Jon.

It is what you see said...

With Jon about to embark on a new career (Ed Hardy), all of Kate's past nastiness, egotism, rudeness to fans, merchants, friends and family, is going to come right back to bite her, bigtime.
He is jet setting here and there now and I truely believe that Kate's horrible reputation is going to be her undoing..plus she is now totally without Jon the whipping boy, and no one is going to be quick to fill that roll.
She'll regret this for the rest of her life. Karma at it finest.

PA Beautiful Weather said...

Lordy Be It's such a beautiful day in PA!! I'm going to go to kmart & get me one of those white plastic chairs & SIT IN MY DRIVEWAY ALL DAY!!!! Forget my pool, acres of land, gardening, pets.......Yep, just gonna sit in the driveway & bark orders! Not even gonna cook. Hubby will get a few grapes, crackers,yogurt on a paper plate. No cooking or using the dishwasher!No Siree! Now, where is my phone. Got to look important. Doesn't matter if it's charged or not. I'll just pretend I have sooo many people! Oh & I better put on a really small bikini & hat in case someone takes a picture! So much fun!!!!!!!!!!

reenie0912 said...

Has anyone noticed in the pictures of Jon in France, he is not smiling?? Not in ONE picture! Not while walking on the yacht, not while his new g/f is hanging on him, not one smile. I think that's odd. Either he's hiding his own new set of porcelin veneers, or he's not too happy.
I used to have hope, after reading they were divorcing, that Jon would step up and save his children from their mother, and all this madness. But After seeing these pictures, I doubt it. They are all doomed to a life of misery. Money or not. This family will never be truly happy. And that's very sad.

a rose is a rose said...

Yes, that IS definetly Hailey Glassman in France holding hands with Jon. I have to say this young lady fits right in.

SaNdY said...

4thekids said...
Jon and girlfriend in France(and it's not Hailey or Deanna).

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009/07/11/jon-gosselin-girlfriend-st-tropez/
***********************************Radaronline.com also has similar photos of Jon and his honey and they identify her as Hailey Glassman...wouldn't wanna be around Katie Irene when she sees these pics....(actually, I wouldn't wanna be around her at all, ever!) Wonder what Kate will come up with to get back at Jon for this 'in your face, look at me' from him....

Daner said...

http://justjared.buzznet.com/gallery/photos.php?yr=2009&mon=07&evt=gosselin-girlfriend&pic=jon-gosselin-girlfriend-st-tropez-10.jpg

Yes, that is Hailey

KJIH-TV Media said...

Here in Canada, we have Junior Kindgarten (aka Preschool) for those kids who are a year younger than the targeted Kindgarten age, but not emotionally ready to jump into Kindergarten.

Well, KON missed the boat getting them into JK at the right JK age, because due to their isolation, they *most* *certainly* *NEED* *it*! The fact that they'll be a year older than the rest of the kids there -- if they *DO* go -- is just like when you fail *any* grade and are a year older than the rest of your classmates. I guess they're just starting that early. Sad.

Wanda said...

Well Jon and Hayley are together. See Pics of them holding hands in France http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/07/exclusive-jon-gosselin-takes-girlfriend-france-and-hes-working-business-deal-her

Ann said...

My daughter went to jr kindergarten. Where I live it is only an option at private schools and it is for children who are not old enough for kindergarten but ready for academics. In fact my daughter had to be tested to get in (not just academics, but attention span & behavior).
My daughter started at age 4, and turned 5 during her jr kindergarten year. She was able to start regular kindergarten reading and socially ready at age 5.

The tups would not be eligible by age to attend jr-k where I live. They would have to go to regular kindergarten (even if not ready, they would get special help if they had delays, in our area delayed kids get full day kindergarten, non-delayed get half day).
I persoanlly think it would be very akward to be 7 years old in kindergarten (the tups will turn 7 while in kindergarten).
I'm curious I live in a rural area and kids get their driving permit at age 14. Is this true in PA? That means the tups could drive in 7th grade!

Becky Q in PA said...

4thekids said: Jon and girlfriend in France(and it's not Hailey or Deanna).

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009/07/11/jon-gosselin-girlfriend-st-tropez/


Well, it seems very deliberate on his part to show he's with her, especially that one pic of them with their hands horizontally, palm-to-palm, about to entwine their fingers.

Good for him, whether he's making a stand or making ass*s of the media! (Kate's been making statements for to tabloids for weeks through "sources"--even though we all know if she did have close friends or family, anything she confided to them would probably be a lie, so the stories are untrustworthy).

I'm glad Jon's making "a statement" himself without "commenting publicly" to the media. Now Kate's gotta get her PR people to "not react to media stories and speculation" for her (once again). Good thinking, Jon!

just wondering said...

4thekids said...
Jon and girlfriend in France(and it's not Hailey or Deanna).

**************

Sure looks like Hailey to me. Kate must be dead from stroke by now!

jon can exhale said...

that looks like Hailey Glassman to me - anyway he actually looks like he is achieving some inner peace without the fat pig shrew of a wife around

poor, poor kids - perhaps you can one day ask your parents WHY they wrote a book on parenthood...at your expense

pathetic, disgusting PIGS

lindahoyt said...

I think Jon said that he worked as a clerk in a clothing store. I guess that is being in the "fashion" business?! LOL.

I believe the girlfriend is Hailey Glassman. Pretty creepy that he is dating the daughter of the man who cinched up the belly of the women who bore his 8 children!

I see Jon no longer does "everything for my kids"!! What a joke!

Bless those little children's hearts. Their own parents, do not give a flip about their feelings and emotional health.

I am sure that if Jon got the job, it would be contingent on Jon continuing with the tv show; which is what makes Jon bankable..so, this doesn't help the kids. They are still the meal ticket.

Jon and Kate only generate hate, these days. They are two lost souls who need our prayers---but not our attention.

I love a Gosselin free tv!! I hope they never come back.

K said...

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/3a16fffc3d/kate-gosselin-match-com-profile-video

The Jon one is better. Check them both out on funnyordie.

sunnyskies said...

Jon and girlfriend in France(and it's not Hailey or Deanna).

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009/07/11/jon-gosselin-girlfriend-st-tropez/

The BEST feature of Jon and these photos; Jon is wearing those cool vintage cowboy boots he has had since high school. The ones that Kate absolutely hates!

NoUse4Kate said...

Actually I wish Jon well with the whole Ed Hardy thing. At least he will be pulling in a coin of his own if it does not involve the kids and he could use the whole snowboarding/outdoor activity stuff he loves and is good at in the mix of it all.

Kate on the other hand, all she knows how to do is exploit her kids, she has nothing else to offer. She is not creative on her own, she is not athletic at all, she is not an author, she isn't much of anything but a user. Good luck finding something you can do on your own katie poo.

Momof2 said...

Pretty soon we'll be seeing the "poor Kate" pics...home alone...with the kids...doing it all by herself....wait for it.

Anonymous said...

On Radaronline it confirms the young woman is Hailey Glassman. After looking at other pictures of the two, it definitely looks like her.

Anonymous said...

Just Jared link to Jon Gosselin's new girlfriend:
http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009/07/11/jon-gosselin-girlfriend-st-tropez/

so irritated said...

Oh, the karma and irony all in one day! If Jon is actually going to get some kind of designing deal Kate will explode! She went to all that work this past spring trolloping around in her tacky, innappropriate outfits (complete w/ bug eye sunglasses & stripper shoes) trying to impress some fashion house into giving her a deal. No offers, not even from a hair product company.

Jon on the other hand, wears his Ed Hardy duds to the UPS store a few times and today he's in France meeting the designer. LOLOLOLOL! I bet Kate is sticking pins in her Jon doll right now. I too support any income he can make that doesn't involve the kids, more power to him. If his new "girlfriend" is Hailey Glassman, then I give him a thumbs down on that choice. She already has quite a sordid past for a 22 yr. old. Hopefully he's just playing the field and not looking for anything long term.

illtakeoneofthosewhiteplasticchairsplease said...

It now becomes obvious why Kate is so seething mad at her soon to be ex Jon and must continually stoop to the level of bashing him via the media. Kate's reasoning of 'he is just not there for his kids' or 'I have to do EVERYTHING myself' is Kate's serving spin to garner more attention to herself as the 'victim'. When in ALL actuality, Kate is beyond livid that JON might actually have a CAREER to call his OWN that does not involve EXPLOITING his children.

a rose is a rose said...

Now Jon no longer needs the show.
If he lands the spokesperson or modeling job from Ed Hardy, he will not need to be on the silly show that he hates. He said he wants to be Jon, well here's his opportunity. For once, earn your own living and step up and be responsible for yourself.
So Kate was in Calif. this week and Jon in France, and the eight kids home with who knows. Nice.

hmmmmm said...

I'm looking at these pics of Jon and Hailey in France and while they are shocking, I am getting the sense that they are staged. Especially this one: http://justjared.buzznet.com/gallery/photos.php?yr=2009&mon=07&evt=gosselin-girlfriend&pic=jon-gosselin-girlfriend-st-tropez-04.jpg

The photo quality in some of these shots are too good to be a candid paparazzi photo.

SAHM said...

Oh to be a fly on the wall when Kate see's the pics of Jon w/ Hailey.

lukebandit said...

kate is behind the jon started rumors about her and steve. she knew that he was going to france with hailey and she had to do something to get sympathy. why doesn't justjared or radaronline get a picture of steve? yes, katie irene your house of lies is crumbling. remember when she took a stack of publicity photos barefooted across the yard to hand to luke the bodyguard? then she was walkig back and she was breaking down and crying and luke was comforting her? she is pretty upset don't ya know about only getting tog to bald head nc and jon and hailey get to go to PARIS, FRANCE!!!
tough cookies, katie irene.
you reap what you sow.

Good for him said...

I can't even say that I feel bad that Jon is having some fun and traveling with Hailey.
For all the terrible things Kate said and did to him for 10 YEARS, on and off tv, it is now his turn to be his own person. Plus, at least he isn't living off the kids if he lands a career.

mollybloom said...

From the photos, it doesn't exactly look as if J and H are hiding from the paps. If fact, some of those pictures are downright posed.

If Jon gets a job, more power to him unless it involves dragging the kids in.

Rosie said...

I just had to laugh thinking about something. Wait till Kate sees all those photos of Jon and Hailey in France today. Tomorrow she'll cry and fall apart for half a day.

Cry me a river said...

Kate will cry for half a day.

NoUse4Kate said...

As far as the Glassman girl goes, does she not deserve a little slack? I know a lot of people who have done stupid things as a teen, and early 20's person. I would hate to be judged my entire life for that era. If she is still doing dumb things at this point that is a different story and yes, k8 would have a reason to bitch, but if she is not give her a break.

I don't know all about her history other than what I have read here and I would sum it up to immaturity and poor choices in a very uncertain time in ones life.

not a good day to upset mommy said...

COUNT IT DOWN...three, two, one

Kate magically appears on the front lawn wearing a bikini(a clothing choice she should NEVER WEAR IN PUBLIC) looking for a really tall (in full view)tree to hang jon's noose

holding hands with her phone

Not a fan of either said...

He's out of town. She's out of town. The children are with whomever. But everything they do is for their children. Right.

I read that Kate said she is too big for PA. Well here's an idea. Some journalist (who writes for the biggest PA newspaper) should put together an itemized statement of all the freebies J&K got from PA. From hospital bills, free stuff, the estimated cost of volunteers (if they had to pay for them), the state provided nurse, and I'm sure the list goes on and on and on. Then they should do a front page article for everyone in PA to read. Then maybe she would feel small rather than big. (naw, probably not.)

These two make me sick.

Becky Q in PA said...

SAHM said...

Oh to be a fly on the wall when Kate see's the pics of Jon w/ Hailey.


Yes, I can see it too, and it's making me smile! I'm picturing the pursed lips, eyes bugging out, and steam coming out of her ears, thinking, 'but I'm not in CONTROL of this!' Sorry, but she deserves it more than anyone I can think of.

The kids certainly don't deserve this coverage, but she's been plastering these stories all over the tabloids for a while now, so she doesn't care what they see/read. Darn, now I'm not smiling anymore.

marypoppins said...

Is that what you said said...
Jon worked in WHAT fashion industry?
He said he was in RETAIL SALES, comeon, that's hardly a fashion industry. Its not like he was designing clothing. He has no design experience.
_______________________________
Yes I too was confused by SundayRose's comment.

I dont understand, if you are on a reality show what makes you suddenly QUALIFIED to DESIGN something, just because you are a fan of it eg
Jon- say boards, Kate - baby clothes.

Sharon said...

This is so cool. I was in the super market today and the only picture of Kate ia a small one down in the left corner of
US WEEKLY. It says that Steve left Kate and went back to his wife. Now we see Jon in GFrance with his new lady, working on his own career.
KATE, YOU'RE GOIN DOWN

I KNEW it was all over said...

In two years Jon will be remarried and will have started a second family and be independent of Kate totally. I hope Kate has saved up her money, as the big monster house will be draining her pocketbook, and the ridiculous 25 acres and house will be the first to go. Mark my words.

marypoppins said...

SAHM said... Oh to be a fly on the wall when Kate see's the pics of Jon w/ Hailey.
_________________________________
I really hope she's in her bedroom (where the kids with be punished with severity if they enter) whenever she's fuming/angry/upset.

I hope she is not venting or making snarky remarks about Jon in front of them- that's just too much stress for the kids.

MommaRhea said...

SAHM said...

Oh to be a fly on the wall when Kate see's the pics of Jon w/ Hailey.


With Kate's ego I wouldn't want to be in her vicinity when she sees them...it'd be like getting hit by flying porcupine quills when her head explodes. LOL. I bet she's on her iPhone right now to her publicist demanding to have her arrange to be seen in the company of some Hollywood stud, just to one-up Jon.

As for Jon becoming the spokesman for Ed Hardy...sure, I can see the ads now..."Are you over 30, overweight, balding, divorced with eight kids? Wear Ed Hardy and you too can have hot, wild 22 yr old girls falling at your feet!"

M.R. said...

"NoUse4Kate said...

As far as the Glassman girl goes, does she not deserve a little slack? I know a lot of people who have done stupid things as a teen, and early 20's person. I would hate to be judged my entire life for that era. If she is still doing dumb things at this point that is a different story "

...ummm, seems to me dating Jon Gosselin qualifies as a dumb thing.

Fixer Mamma said...

somewhere, Kate is having a total freak out and planning her own way of getting back in the news. Mark my words, by Wednesday, she'll not longer be keeping quiet.

Kannie said...

Maybe the Glassmans are weirdly star struck. It's remarkable how people react to you when you're on TV. I used to report (a horrible, spirit-depleting job) for a major market TV station that was a spectacular ratings failure. Still, strangers would constantly approach me, some attaching themselves to me like barnacles, simply because I worked on TV. Maybe some odd desire to be associated with someone in the public eye is driving the Glassmans' weird behavior.

Oh, The Momma said...

===On May 24 Jon and Hailey were caught slipping into the Bourbon Street bar in Nyack and were caught on surveillance tapes obtained by Radaronline enjoying drinks. As they left Jon was spooked by a photographer out front and fled through the back alley, cell phone in hand. By then, Hailey told pals, she and Jon had been secretly dating “for several months.”===
==================

Well, now, now don't a lot of things make sense now? Jon's statement at the end of last season "I just can't be Jon - I have to be "Jon & Kate" - well, DUH, yep, when you are MARRIED you SHOULDN'T have a girlfriend on the side. FOR YOUR KIDS SAKES - you WAIT until after your divorce from their mother...... regardless of if she's a shrew. You DO IT FOR YOUR KIDS.

Jon had to know that this would be caught up by the media ......so much for his "One day my kids are gonna Google me...." concern!

I don't care if he's NOT dating her - his actions make it appear that way -- and ULTIMATELY is gonna cause hurt and pain for his children.

You know - this is no longer like watching a 'train wreck' -- this has turned into more of a bad B-rated horror flick - that you at some point halfway through the movie just turn it off because it's so lame.

I really believe with Jon doing this (the public display of his relationship with Hailey) - that either 1) the Divorce Deal is worked out, signed, sealed and just waiting for the court to approve or 2) It's going to get REALLY ugly.

layback said...

I am in no way on Team Kate but it has been reported she flew home from CA on Weds. night so she is home with the children. I have issues with Kate trying to exploit her children even more but it seems she is doing it on her time away from her children, per her and Jon's custody agreements.

cottagequeso gal said...

When Khate was offered the free tummy-tuck, it struck me then that the good doctor was not doing it out of the goodness of his heart. I believe it was stated that his wife had seen Khate's 'butt-in-front' on TV and had gone to her husband about it. They both agreed it would be such a 'nice' gesture (paraphrasing here) Ha, that's B.S.!! Dr. Glassman was, and is, no different that Gymboree, JuicyJuice, etc. etc. He just wanted his name out there.
I applaud him however for turning down khate's request for a boob lift - OMG, how fresh is THAT??!!!

ginnyLavine13 said...

reenie0912 said...
Has anyone noticed in the pictures of Jon in France, he is not smiling?? Not in ONE picture! Not while walking on the yacht, not while his new g/f is hanging on him, not one smile. I think that's odd. Either he's hiding his own new set of porcelin veneers, or he's not too happy.
I used to have hope, after reading they were divorcing, that Jon would step up and save his children from their mother, and all this madness. But After seeing these pictures, I doubt it. They are all doomed to a life of misery. Money or not. This family will never be truly happy. And that's very sad.
****************

I thought the same thing.... but hailey wasn't smiling either, it almost came off to me that they were purposely not smiling (my ex never smiled in pictures because it was "cheesy" and he was just waaay to cool for that lol).
They're (Jon and Kate) such phonies, they have proven themselves to be the exact opposites of everything they built they made an empire out of pretending to be.

GinnyLavine13 said...

M.R. said...
"NoUse4Kate said...

As far as the Glassman girl goes, does she not deserve a little slack? I know a lot of people who have done stupid things as a teen, and early 20's person. I would hate to be judged my entire life for that era. If she is still doing dumb things at this point that is a different story "

...ummm, seems to me dating Jon Gosselin qualifies as a dumb thing.
*****************
HAHAHA M.R., thats the best laugh I've had all day!!

Sweet God.... My fiance is so sick of hearing me talk about how much I can't stand these people that he's started calling anything even remotely bad "Kate" and anything flat out stupid "Jon" (sometimes its just "A Gosselin" although I feel a little bad about that one, since that would imply the kids too). I know it sounds silly, but it cracks me up that the one person I know that never watches tv is using their names in his every day vernacular like this.

Becky Q in PA said...

cottagequeso gal said..."I applaud [Dr. Glassman] however for turning down khate's request for a boob lift - OMG, how fresh is THAT??!!!
*****
When did he say no to the breast lift? (And did she really have the nerve to ask for a FREE breast lift?) Was it on the tummy-tuck show?

(Sorry, I've missed a lot of episodes that I certainly won't go back and watch now...)

I was thinking how ironic it is that accepting this "freebie" from Dr. Glassman has led, ultimately, to today's pics of Jon and Hailey.

SaNdY said...

so irritated said...
Oh, the karma and irony all in one day! If Jon is actually going to get some kind of designing deal Kate will explode! She went to all that work this past spring trolloping around in her tacky, innappropriate outfits (complete w/ bug eye sunglasses & stripper shoes) trying to impress some fashion house into giving her a deal. No offers, not even from a hair product company.

Jon on the other hand, wears his Ed Hardy duds to the UPS store a few times and today he's in France meeting the designer. LOLOLOLOL! I bet Kate is sticking pins in her Jon doll right now. I too support any income he can make that doesn't involve the kids, more power to him. If his new "girlfriend" is Hailey Glassman, then I give him a thumbs down on that choice. She already has quite a sordid past for a 22 yr. old. Hopefully he's just playing the field and not looking for anything long term.
***********************************
The more I think about this whole thing with Jon and his girlfriend in St. Tropez meeting with the Ed Hardy guy...and reading all the comments from other GWoP'ers....it really tickles me that this news has to be pushing Kate to the edge...the one thing I hope and pray for is that the kids don't have to suffer her wrath because of this, she is got to be steaming mad, especially now that Steve does not seem to be in her picture any more....she has 'worked' so hard, traveling hither, thither and yon to put together some sort of deal for herself to keep the money train going, and it seems to me like Jon sort of just slipped into something with the Ed Hardy people that might benefit them both....I wouldn't say I'm on Jon's team, but I do love the fact that Kate has to be livid about what's happening with Jon now (girlfriend, possible job offer, in St. Tropez, etc) Paybacks are h***, Kate....

Loftgirl said...

I am a new poster, but I have been reading this blog for monthes. After looking at the pictures of John and his girlfriend in Paris I have a few opinions that I want to share.
I'm really happy that John has a new women, because I think he deserves some positive attention.
Even though I'm "Team John" I don't believe that his "fashion" career is really going to work. Just because you wear a Ed Hardy tee everyday doesn't make you some kind of fashion expert. In my opinion, a true fashionista is someone who wears a variety of different lines in a manner that works for his/her body type, age group, and still keeps within today's trends. John, you are too old for Ed Hardy. But don't start laughing just yet, Kate. You are also guilty of wearing a line to death. Loft anyone?? These two have no business trying to design anything, because they are just two regular old people who happened to catch the attention of the nation by having 6 children at once. Having 6 kids at once does not make you Tom Ford!!

John, stop trying to be Diddy, you're not. Go home and lay low. Focus on your children first. I know having a 23 year old cutie in your bed rather then that shrew of a ex is mighty tempting, but really this is a rebound fling, so treat it as one.

Kate, get a new hair and get into therapy.

Momof2boys said...

Re: Women's Conference in California response... I sent off an email with a link to A Minor Considersation before going on vacation and got the following response (which I apologize if it has been previously posted).

With our state of California in struggling the way it is, I would hope that our First Lady, a veteran reporter, thinks twice about her speakers...and what, pray tell, can be Kate's contribution as an Archetect of Change? How not to ignore your children???


From: Liberty B. Conboy (womensconf2009@gmail.com)

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and views with us. We are thrilled that The Women’s Conference brings together such a passionate, engaged and diverse group of woman every year. With that comes many different viewpoints and perspectives and we celebrate that. Our speaker line-up this year once again reflects many different lives and experiences and we are proud to provide a platform for women from all walks of life to become Architects of Change.

Michelle said...

He can't lost joint custody of the kids for having a girlfriend. SHE filed for divorce, SHE kicked him to the curb, SHE beat on him all these years and now HE is getting a life. Having a g/f is only a sign of moving on. Chances are he didn't think he would be noticed in France. I personally think it's great that he is moving on. No, he isn't smiling but he doesn't have to. One picture is worth a million words in this case.

Just waiting for Katie Irene to respond. Should be a good one. She created this and now she has to live with it. I bet she is just fuming because he is in France.

Miranda said...

Okay, here's my email to the Women's Conference. I tried a different approach; we'll see what kind of response I get.":


"While Kate Gosselin
has every right to attend your conference, I object to your inclusion of her as a speaker, and as an example of an "architect of change."

I'm not going to list the myriad of reasons for my objections, but it's obvious that Kate Gosselin is suffering severe personal and emotional issues and -- for her sake as well as for the sake of her 8 young children -- she needs to step out of the spotlight so that she can address them.

In my opinion, Kate's emotional difficulties qualify her as a handicapped individual. To (literally) place such a person on a pedestal is abusive and only feeds her delusions and unrealistic fantasies.

I seriously doubt that Ms. Shriver's mother -- Eunice Kennedy Shriver -- would condone such treatment of a handicapped person."

Movin on said...

I truely think that Jon feels its "cool" NOT to smile. He was never a real smiley person anyway, how COULD he, with Kate nearby?
I think he has moved on in life and feels he has nothing to hide, now that he's filed for divorce.
Kate will be home tomorrow crying for "half a day."

TiredinJAX said...

After seeing Kate in numerous rage episodes, I'm really worried about how she'll react towards the kids when she sees these pics. Really worried. This is a woman with serious anger/rage issues.

Regarding Jon's new date, I can't see what any 22 year old would want with a married father of 8. Even if they feel they are soul mates, the fact of 8 step-children (and child support for 8) would be enough of a turn-off. Add in a psycho ex-wife... and I don't know anybody who'd stick around.

Smart move on Ed Hardy folks. It's already generated enough publicity to pay for the trip.

Just Julie said...

Has Kate been spotted without a hat in recent weeks? I wonder if something even more dreadfully dreadfuller happened to her reverse mullet.

SaNdY said...

Becky Q in PA said...
cottagequeso gal said..."I applaud [Dr. Glassman] however for turning down khate's request for a boob lift - OMG, how fresh is THAT??!!!
*****
When did he say no to the breast lift? (And did she really have the nerve to ask for a FREE breast lift?) Was it on the tummy-tuck show?

(Sorry, I've missed a lot of episodes that I certainly won't go back and watch now...)

I was thinking how ironic it is that accepting this "freebie" from Dr. Glassman has led, ultimately, to today's pics of Jon and Hailey.
***********************************
Yes, indeedy, Katie Irene asked for yet another freebie while the dr checked out her tummy for her free tummy tuck! She suggested a boob job and he suggested a good bra! And yes, ITA with you about the irony of the 'freebie' situation leading to Jon and Hailey's relationship....

DiddyWannaBe said...

LoftGirl, I been thinking Jon is trying to be Diddy too. lol.

Terra said...

I know that Kate's pretty mad today...but Jon's divorce attny isn't probably too happy either. Doing this will make her "angrier than angry" and very bitter and difficult during the divorce.

lalaland said...

The not-smiling thing reminds me of Victoria Beckham, another A-level celebrity wannabe.

its almost over said...

Sorry, but it is NOT cheating or committing adultery when divorce papers have been filed. They are legally separated, pending divorce. Trust me, I know.

Sugarpop said...

People keep mentioning how Jon is going to have to pay child support, and I think that's an assumption that could well be wrong. It depends on many factors, but at least in my state I know it depends on income levels and custodial time. If they're splitting custody 50/50, leaving the kids in the house, and both J&K have similar incomes, it could work out that neither of them pay OR that SHE pays HIM!

My guess is that there will have to be a trust of some kind established for the kids because if they continue the show the income will obviously have to be divided at the very least between J&K. A trust overseen by a court appointed trustee would be the best option, in my opinion!

I don't understand why people start relationships that are doomed to fail. Why set yourself up for that? Why do people think they'll be the exception rather than the rule? Irresponsible and dumb. And I'm referring to both Jon AND Kate, if she was really having a fling with the bodyguard (which I think she was).

CKK said...

There's a J&K question in the "Who's News" page of USA Weekend this week. The writer doesn't seem to be a fan of J&K.

http://www.usaweekend.com/09_issues/090712/090712whosnews-celebs-birthdays.html

Don't forget said...

I still keep seeing the picture in my head of Jon sitting on the couch with Kate, beaten down, with his eyes to the ground, afraid to say ANYTHING, because Kate was ready to pounce. He was only an extention of Kate, a ninth child to boss around. She constantly critisized him and brought him down.
We all cannot forget this and how she yelled at him in public, and humiliated him in front of people.
He did all the work at home with the kids and she'd find one little thing to bash him for. He just snapped one day and in his mind said "that's it". I just can't say unkind things about him at this point after what Kate's done to him for a decade.

No guilt for them said...

Right now at 22 Hailey is only interested in Jon and not in raising anyone's eight kids. It's probably not even brought up.
They just seem to be enjoying themselves and his new found freedom... the man was a beaten down husband that got married as a kid and was under Kate's thumb. Now he can connect with the relatives and not feel guilty. I'm sure he misses his them.

Becky Q in PA said...

its almost over said...

Sorry, but it is NOT cheating or committing adultery when divorce papers have been filed. They are legally separated, pending divorce. Trust me, I know.

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I don't know about the legal definition of "adultery," but since PA is a no-fault-divorce state, the worst that can happen is that Kate will be even more difficult to deal with (maybe she'll reach new depths, but she's pretty evil now).

Regarding "legal separation," though, there is no such thing in PA.

Becky Q in PA said...

I've been thinking about the Maria Shriver/CA thing...

Ms. Shriver:

I think maybe it doesn't faze you that Kate's pimping out her kids since it's so common in Hollywood. (Think of Dina Lohan and the parents of numerous former child stars who have sued their parents, OD'd, gone to jail, etc.)

Unfortunately, Ms. Shriver, those child actors suffered despite the protection your laws offer; the state of Pennsylvania, I'm ashamed to say, has dropped the ball here, and is turning a blind eye to this tragedy. Think of how badly things have turned out for children for whom protections were in place, and then imagine just how bad things could get for these 8 innocent children.

Why, oh why, would you spend the funds of your bankrupt state to pay that terrible excuse for a mother to speak? Doesn't CA have a bad enough reputation for child exploitation already?

And someone brought up that you are also a reporter; that slipped my mind--you really have no excuse for buying Kate's story wholesale. What kind of true journalist wouldn't smell something fishy here and dig a little deeper? Every day that goes by, I think less of you. Is it possible we've been fed a bill of goods about you, too? (I wouldn't have thought so, but there's no excuse for what you're doing). Even if you've already paid her, for heaven's sake, tell her to stay home!

Kimme said...

In regards to my use of the word "adultery" - That's a "moral" term and morally the two are still married. The divorce in no way has been finalized through a court - or a judge. Filed papers does not a divorce make.

Obviously Jon had affair(s) BEFORE the papers were filed, hence yes, it qualifies as adultery legally also.

I thought Jon was a Christian Man who believed in the Close Knit Family? That's what he and Kates' act was to get the Love Offerings. Do you think those church congregations are jumping for joy about his love affair while still married?

Somehow I sincerely doubt it.

Jon is living off the back of his preschool children just as much as Kate is - has the car, soon the big town apt., and all the perks.

Laurie said...

Khate must be livid and the fur is going to fly! The final nail in the coffin for the show will be when Jon signs on the dotted line for a tell all book! It's coming, mark my words. Khate can't write one because then she would have to expose herself for the bitch that she is.

make it stop said...

I don't agree that the Gosselin children are "working" but in being filmed while at home and play, they certainly contributed greatly in their parents getting immensely rich. It's time to pull the plug on this ridiculous show and stop being so fascinated with Jon and Kate.

AZ Mom said...

Khate will be even more livid when she reads this blog (which we all know she does) and sees that many people are actually saying "YEA JON!". She may be able to fool the sheeple, but she's not going to fool the general public - her poor me act won't work.

Splittng hairs said...

Why does the word adultery come up now with Jon. What about Kate?
Morally they were never Christian's in the true sense of the word, it was just to sell books and to get the church people to contribute to love offerings.
They are NOT married now in the legal sense of the word. They are both free to date. The divorce is filed, all that's left is the court date. Lets not split hairs.

Almost over said...

I live in Pa., and although they didn't need to file for separation, they filed for a divorce. Its done, all they are awaiting is the court date for the dissolution of marriage.
They are done as a couple till the actual divorce is final, which I'm sure will be soon.

NoUse4Kate said...

Anonymous M.R. said...

"NoUse4Kate said...

As far as the Glassman girl goes, does she not deserve a little slack? I know a lot of people who have done stupid things as a teen, and early 20's person. I would hate to be judged my entire life for that era. If she is still doing dumb things at this point that is a different story "

...ummm, seems to me dating Jon Gosselin qualifies as a dumb thing.


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Touché ;)

A public display said...

It will be interesting to see if Kate goes into hiding after this public display in France.
She's never been overseas as far as she said, and for her to see Jon on the yacht with Hailey, is going to drive her nuts.
But again, knowing Kate, it'll give her all the more reason for public displays of her own.
Stay tuned, the heat is about to be turned up.

Too much money said...

I think the time is shortly coming for Kate to put that big slug of a home and all that ridiculous acreage on the market. What does a single parent need with all that work to do there and no spouse to share it with, or enjoy it with.
The Etown home is STILL on the market and if you speak with area realtors, it is over priced and will sell for about 350,000.

too much money said...

Sorry, wrong figure. I meant the Etown home will eventually sell for about $250,000 not ($350,000)
They paid $280,000 3 years ago.

SaNdY said...

Splittng hairs said...
Why does the word adultery come up now with Jon. What about Kate?
Morally they were never Christian's in the true sense of the word, it was just to sell books and to get the church people to contribute to love offerings.
They are NOT married now in the legal sense of the word. They are both free to date. The divorce is filed, all that's left is the court date. Lets not split hairs.
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Yes, as far as the G's being 'Christian' go, they must have thought that all those Bible verses written on post-it notes and stuck all over their E-town house made them 'Christian'

just wondering said...

Kimme said...
In regards to my use of the word "adultery" - That's a "moral" term and morally the two are still married. The divorce in no way has been finalized through a court - or a judge. Filed papers does not a divorce make.

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I don't give a rats ass about adultery. I just don't want the kids filmed. Period. These two idiots can screw their way around the world several times for all I care, just get your kids off television and do it now!

Kay said...

Because I have no life, I went to see if their sixgosselins website was still around (I remember it exceeded its badwidth when everything started getting crazy with this family). Well it's working again, and it's just like it was before they divorced. It's strange to read now. You'd think they either change it or keep it blocked now that they've divorced.

Isn't He "Fixed" ??? said...

Pat said, "Within 6 months, Jon will be barely seeing his kids - except maybe the new ones he makes with the Glassman chick. Well at least he may have to pay child support."
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Would somebody enlighten me? I thought there had been much discussion here that he'd had a vasectomy, although I guess those can be reversed.

Becky Q in PA said...

make it stop said...
I don't agree that the Gosselin children are "working" but in being filmed while at home and play, they certainly contributed greatly in their parents getting immensely rich. It's time to pull the plug on this ridiculous show and stop being so fascinated with Jon and Kate.

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I just went back and read one of Paul Petersen's posts from Aunt Jodi's sister's blog (date 6/5-link on GWoP sidebar). I was wrong when I said earlier that PA laws aren't in place to protect these kids. (At least as far as working hours/conditions--who knows what rights they have in regards to the money). PA is just NOT ENFORCING the law.

§ 11.1. Definitions.

Employment--A minor engaged in a performance shall be deemed employed...if any performer in the production is paid for performing.


I was wrong in what I wrote to Maria Shriver earlier; child actors here are SUPPOSED to be offered protection under PA laws, but PA DEPT OF LABOR HAS TURNED ITS BACK ON THESE CHILDREN!

So...the children are working. PA LAW says the children are working. J&K, TLC, and the PA Dept of Labor want to convince us they're not working. Why is it that a PA government agency is ignoring the law? Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

I'm embarrassed to live in PA.

UsingFameToAdvantage said...

MommaRhea is TOO FUNNY!
She said:

As for Jon becoming the spokesman for Ed Hardy...sure, I can see the ads now..."Are you over 30, overweight, balding, divorced with eight kids? Wear Ed Hardy and you too can have hot, wild 22 yr old girls falling at your feet!"

LOL...and, wow, puts things in perspective. Maybe it's that rather than a walking spokesperson for the line, he'd be designing behind the scenes. He could have sent them some designs or ideas. Perhaps a new ad campaign will be something about not having to be age 14 to wear this designer's clothes.

Fame/name gets you in the door. Did Sarah Jessica Parker have design experience to do her (probably now defunct) line which I think was very popular, called Bitten? (Hope I got those names right!) Do people like Britney, Mariah, Jennifer Lopez, etc. have any real experience in creating perfumes? Ever notice how a celeb can put out a book or memoir, snap, just like that? Jon might need some kind of degree or certification to work in IT, but he probably only needs ideas to get snowboards or clothes designed although it would seem he would also need to be a walking billboard for either/all.

Calgary7 said...

highlights from the business press *Bloomberg News*

Jon minus Kate equals liability

Reality TV couple's divorce puts insurer, production company at risk for lawsuits

"That's what's scary for insurers about reality," said Lorrie McNaught, vice president of the Aon Corp. unit that brokers insurance for the entertainment industry. "It's unscripted."

The couple's split underlines the danger that unanticipated events on reality shows and reality-based films can lead to extra costs from delays, reshoots and lawsuits.

Participants in Walt Disney Co.'s "Extreme Makeover" show and News Corp.'s "Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan" film have sued companies that backed them, saying the firms were responsible for the fallout that followed their on-camera embarrassment.

If the Gosselins felt the production company "caused or somehow led to this decision, they easily could sue the production company," McNaught said. "The biggest issue for insurers with respect to reality television is the risk of the participant."


Liability risks on reality shows have shifted from stunt operations in shows like the now-canceled "Fear Factor" to more emotional issues such as those on "Jon & Kate Plus 8," said Tully Lehman, a spokesman for the Insurance Information Network of California, a nonprofit that provides insurance information to consumers and the media.

"We used to see situations in which you saw a lot of stunts where physical injury could be possible," he said. Now, there are more programs "with more compromising situations as opposed to a stunt, something that could lead to embarrassing situations."

If the Gosselins do decide to file a suit against the production company, "it doesn't necessarily mean that they are going to be successful," Chubb's Williams said. "There still could be a large claim for defense costs."

source:
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20090712/BUSINESS/907120320

Calgary7 said...

"Too late already?

The Gosselin kids are "already on the road to trouble because of the parents' pathetic coping skills, poor judgment and apparently poor advice and advisers," says Dr. Stuart Fischoff.

"Raising all those kids is very expensive. How long can the parents exploit the situation before they begin making bad decisions to keep the attention on them and squeeze the last buck out of their 'story?'

"The kids could end up writing a collective autobiography, How to be Exploited by Your Parents for Neurotic Fun and Profit."

Our culture chews up reality show-based celebrities, says Fischoff, a media psychology professor at California State University. "Fame and notoriety may be indeed fleeting and in a few years no one except those close, will know who these kids are and care even less -- that may be good. This is a disposable culture and fame isn't just fleeting, it's measured in nanoseconds. That also may be good."

He says the less people remember, the easier it will be for the kids.

"Life is much crueler and capricious than TV or reality testing would have us believe."

If the kids stay out of the limelight things might be okay, he says. "If they pursue the hunt for renewed, appended celebrity, it might go badly for them.

"These parents will make all the difference in the world to those kids' mental health."

He adds: "We know about the Carradine Brothers. We know about the Dionne Quintuplets. We know about Judy Garland's kids. But who among us knows about the kids of Gregory Peck? It all depends on the parents and their common sense and values.

http://www.thewhig.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1642667

JillyB said...

People go on and on here about the sheeple who defend Kate no matter what and, just my opinion, that's how the people defending Jon sound. Yes, he deserves some happiness after the hell he has been through but he should have some concern and regard for his children and how flaunting this new relationship will affect them. In the case of Maddy and Cara, now. In the case of the tups, down the line when they see all this on the internet. Plus I wouldn't put it past Kate to show the kids the pictures to poison them against Jon.

wickedsmart said...

They may as well just book themselves on Jerry Spriner now. Jon could confront Steve. Kate could throw a chair at hailey Glassman. That would be fun.

Who's flaunting said...

Jon isn't flaunting anything.
Kate's been running all over the country for months at a time, being photographed with Steve at her side, even when the public was questioning the depth of that relationship. She didn't care, they kept Steve on regardless.
And where was Jon? HOME raising 8 kids the whole time.

OMG15beoveralready said...

Okay here is my thoughts.. Jon is in St. Tropez France.
Kate is in Hollywood..
Who is being a parent to eight kids? A nanny????????????????????????
Damn I left my kids for the first time 3 weeks ago for 10 days to have my left leg amputated..It killed me to be away that long...I had to see them every day and still talked to them on the phone even with the visits...
PARENTS OF THE YEAR!
As for Jon... Good for him.. he found someone that is not a bitch! Let's face it Kate trapped Jon into this life...Yes he did love her but she lied to him.....He should never have gotten married until he was ready to be a "full-time" husband and father.
Kate could have done what Octoliter did...donate sperm..she did not have to have a man for this..just a staff to take care of them. Wait she does!!! Mother of the year... Can we fix woman who are unfit to be a mother!!!

SundayRose said...

JillyB said, "People go on and on here about the sheeple who defend Kate no matter what and, just my opinion, that's how the people defending Jon sound."
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I don't see it that way. Kate incites negative emotions from viewers on a spectrum of disfunctional issues. The most prominent one is her poor mothering skills. Jon has overall been an involved & loving dad (of course he has made some mistakes). Those frustrations Jon has exhibited can almost always be traced back to Kate's cruel judgments & rantings. Jon has shown compassion, where Kate has not...ever. Jon loves his family and friends. Kate has shunned hers & his. There are numerous other reasons on why I depise Kate Gosselin. I could not feel that way about Jon. I look at the whole picture, the entire history of what we have seen on their reality show, in addition to what I know about them prior to their marriage to arrive at my opinion. I won't judge Jon & turn on him as so many are doing on this blog. I am glad Jon has someone treating him with kindness & not emasculating his every move. How did the man withstand that life for almost 10 years? And finally, yes I understand the Gosselins' are not yet officially divorced.

Ms.Peach said...

WAIT...FOR...IT. Kate will not be knocked down in this media circus. We WILL be treated to some pap pics of Kate or rumors of some upcoming deal this week.

It is what it is, so let's just get the show off the air so those kids don't have to perform any longer. It will be interesting to see if Jon and Kate succeed based on their own appeal and talent (or lack of). I hope their egos are so big that they are ready to not use the kids any longer. I say go for it, just leave the children alone.

GinnyLavine13 said...

Becky Q in PA said...
make it stop said...
I don't agree that the Gosselin children are "working" but in being filmed while at home and play, they certainly contributed greatly in their parents getting immensely rich. It's time to pull the plug on this ridiculous show and stop being so fascinated with Jon and Kate.
*******************
I just went back and read one of Paul Petersen's posts from Aunt Jodi's sister's blog (date 6/5-link on GWoP sidebar). I was wrong when I said earlier that PA laws aren't in place to protect these kids. (At least as far as working hours/conditions--who knows what rights they have in regards to the money). PA is just NOT ENFORCING the law.

§ 11.1. Definitions.

Employment--A minor engaged in a performance shall be deemed employed...if any performer in the production is paid for performing.

I was wrong in what I wrote to Maria Shriver earlier; child actors here are SUPPOSED to be offered protection under PA laws, but PA DEPT OF LABOR HAS TURNED ITS BACK ON THESE CHILDREN!

So...the children are working. PA LAW says the children are working. J&K, TLC, and the PA Dept of Labor want to convince us they're not working. Why is it that a PA government agency is ignoring the law? Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

I'm embarrassed to live in PA.
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I don't think its so much that the Dept of Labor is turning their backs on the Gosselin kids, but that they really can't do anything about it. I don't know anything about PA Law except for what you posted above but the law pretty much said that the children who are "performing" must be paid if the others involved are getting paid.... well, J+K and the TLC team have all made it pretty clear that according to them the children are not performing and TLC is documenting their every day lives. Although I think thats flat out bull s**t, thats what their defense is and I think that until its proven 100% that the G kids ARE working, the above law just won't be applied. Sad.

Snerk said...

Think about it. A good lawyer or state inspector can make a good case it's work. The adults are being paid to do it. They have hours when they must be in front of the camera (employer controls time). The place where they must be is controlled by said employer. Their activity (playing or not what the play is and where it is conducted is controlled by said employer.) They are required to repeat activities and say occasional lines. They are obviously coached to say and do certain things to heighten the drama. They are required to dress a certain way - matching - for artistic effect. I could go on. In my state, it has been determined that putting a child in front of a camera for the purpose of making money, is working. The rest of the states need to figure it out. They are controlling the child by virtue of putting them under lights and cameras and if adults are paid for it, the children are no different.

Watchingfromadistance said...

I tried to send Kate an email via their website. I thought this verse should be the one for the month. "Colossians 3:18 "Wives submit to your husbands as is fitting in the Lord."
My email bounced back to me saying the mailbox is full. Go fiqure.

gherkin said...

Kate is on Just jared---totally dressed up in a dress and heel doing her weekly grocery shopping!

JillyB said...

SundayRose said...
JillyB said, "People go on and on here about the sheeple who defend Kate no matter what and, just my opinion, that's how the people defending Jon sound."
_____________________________
I don't see it that way. Kate incites negative emotions from viewers on a spectrum of disfunctional issues. The most prominent one is her poor mothering skills. Jon has overall been an involved & loving dad (of course he has made some mistakes). Those frustrations Jon has exhibited can almost always be traced back to Kate's cruel judgments & rantings. Jon has shown compassion, where Kate has not...ever. Jon loves his family and friends. Kate has shunned hers & his. There are numerous other reasons on why I depise Kate Gosselin. I could not feel that way about Jon. I look at the whole picture, the entire history of what we have seen on their reality show, in addition to what I know about them prior to their marriage to arrive at my opinion. I won't judge Jon & turn on him as so many are doing on this blog. I am glad Jon has someone treating him with kindness & not emasculating his every move. How did the man withstand that life for almost 10 years? And finally, yes I understand the Gosselins' are not yet officially divorced.
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I don't disagree with any of that, SundayRose, but why make a public spectacle of your new love life that, in the end, is going to cause your children even more pain than they're already enduring. Keept it private. Their parents have split up. Do you not think they're grieving over that? Why shove your new girlfriend in their faces?

Even if they never see the pictures, it's got to have a negative effect on Kate, and who do you think she's going to take that out on? Well, Jon's far, far away, but the kids are right there to absorb her frustration when they blow a whistle or commit some other horrible crime.

Emily said...

wickedsmart said...
They may as well just book themselves on Jerry Spriner now. Jon could confront Steve. Kate could throw a chair at hailey Glassman. That would be fun.



What? And Risk breaking her throne? She would probably throw a kid before she'd throw that beloved chair.

ganana said...

Look closely at Jon's new girl in all the Radar Online photos -- she looks amazingly like Kate in some views.

Ugh!

SaNdY said...

gherkin said...
Kate is on Just jared---totally dressed up in a dress and heel doing her weekly grocery shopping!
***********************************The pics of her on Radar on line of her grocery shopping....2 comments: who dresses like that to shop?? And second, no bodyguard in sight in these 3 pics, and no kids, either...

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

Justjareds top pick is photos of Jon and Hailey. I can't find any new photos of Kate on justjared. TMZ has a lovely photo of Jon and Hailey smoking a cigarette together. It looks like Kate in the backround with her hand on her hip. LOL...

Lesa said...

I don't really think it's that big of a deal to have the kids in Pre-K or whatever they calling it again. My son will turn five in August and we are sending him to another year of pre-school. He will be six when he starts K.
Maybe they want to keep all the kids together in the same class and some of them aren't ready for K yet. If they are going to a private school they might get more personal attention.

I am certainly not a Kate fan, or a Jon fan, for that matter. But I know even with twins, sometimes one isn't ready and in order to keep them together they hold both back.

yeaisaidthat said...

SaNdY said...
gherkin said...
Kate is on Just jared---totally dressed up in a dress and heel doing her weekly grocery shopping!
***********************************The pics of her on Radar on line of her grocery shopping....2 comments: who dresses like that to shop?? And second, no bodyguard in sight in these 3 pics, and no kids, either...

7/12/2009 11:07 AM

And there she is, once again, with her mouth open looking like a blow up doll.

Olivia said...

I may be crazy, but I wouldn't hold back kids who are ready for kids who aren't. If one of the kids needed special ed as many HOMs do, would they still try to keep the children together? Of course not. It's more treating them as a pack rather than individuals to me. I'd expect any child held back to eventually resent it if they found out that they were a year old for their grade just because of sibling x and y. They are going to be different as they grow up and at some point they're all going to have to face it. I don't usually believe in postponing the inevitable. If it were me, I'd have already started treating them as individuals.

Lesa said...

Olivia said...
I may be crazy, but I wouldn't hold back kids who are ready for kids who aren't. If one of the kids needed special ed as many HOMs do, would they still try to keep the children together? Of course not. It's more treating them as a pack rather than individuals to me. I'd expect any child held back to eventually resent it if they found out that they were a year old for their grade just because of sibling x and y. They are going to be different as they grow up and at some point they're all going to have to face it. I don't usually believe in postponing the inevitable. If it were me, I'd have already started treating them as individuals.

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But they are all the same age. That would be why I'd keep them together, in the same grade.
They won't be a year old for their grade. It's fine to be 6 in K. They will be 18 their whole senior year and more mature. That makes them older when they go to college too. I don't see it as a bad thing.
My husband is a teacher and he sees people that send their kids to school much to early. Being a little more mature will only help them.

And, if one needs Special Ed, then they don't all go to SPED, that's not the same thing as keeping them in the same grade.

SarayJoyMiller said...

I just checked on the CA Women's Conference and Kate is NOT listed as a speaker.
http://www.californiawomen.org/speakers/
Does anyone have an update?

SarayJoyMiller said...

I just checked on the CA Women's Conference and Kate is NOT listed as a speaker.
http://www.californiawomen.org/speakers/
Does anyone have an update?

crabbygirl said...

I just saw the pix of Jon & Hailey smoking. I think Hailey looks alot like Kate with long hair.

Ms.Peach said...

Ms.Peach said...
WAIT...FOR...IT. Kate will not be knocked down in this media circus. We WILL be treated to some pap pics of Kate or rumors of some upcoming deal this week.

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WHAT DID I SAY JUST HOURS AGO. She's out grocery shopping dressed like she's going to a wedding (see Radaronline). I think that woman has some deep problems.

Sara L. said...

I Juat saw the pictures of Kate at the grocery store. Who dresses like that? I have to give her credit though, I know that if I were her I wouldn't of left the house today. Also, I saw the new picture of Jon, and he doesn't look very happy at all.

Uninvited? said...

I saw the Calif. Woman's Conference and also did not see Kate's name. Did they remove her or did she step down? Does anyone know? Every other speaker was listed.

TwistedSister said...

She looks foolish but what else in new and what is she trying to Prove,anyway? She is twisted (MHO)

gail said...

I didn't know Jon smoked. Was he always a closet smoker?

just wondering said...

Calgary7 said...

"The kids could end up writing a collective autobiography, How to be Exploited by Your Parents for Neurotic Fun and Profit."

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But only if Kate gets the credit as a co-author!!

kimmer said...

Kate's outfit looks like something one would wear to church... It is Sunday... I can see her playing the victim role... I took all the kids to church while Jon was away.. Poor me!

KB said...

Anybody know or have information with what's going on with the Labor complaints in PA over the children working? Haven't heard anything in awhile.

SarahJoyMiller said...

I read about the kindergarten question with interest. It would have been great to hire a couple of pre-school teachers (or college students) and create a little pre-school every day (for a few hours) right in the house with the kids (and maybe even a few friends) and without the parents. I would have loved to watch it! Also, with that gorgeous pool, why not hire a couple of life guards/swim coaches and helpers and host some swimming lessons? With that beautiful acreage they could have hosted a "Family Camp" and had all kinds of lessons, experiences,and FUN with each other and some friends. I believe these kind of experiences would have helped the kids, made the show interesting and meaningful and also focused ON the kids instead of the parents. What do you think?

Snerk said...

If Kate stopped off for groceries after taking the children to church why weren't they with her? It just looks like a photo op to me.

TinaW said...

Those pictures of jon are disgusting to me. WHAT a head case. Can you imagine if Kate had such pictures out? OMG. Perhaps it is only a matter of time. They are both lost causes.

Kate poolside in Beverly Hills, John on the French Rivera. And what did they do to earn this lifestyle of the rich and famous? Pimped their family out for reality TV. Disgusting. Thank you, TLC.

In the middle of this mess are 8 little kids: how heartbreaking.

Hey Jon, your kids will find those pictures with Google some day, too.

TLC even considering continuing this debacle is one of the most laughable programming choices, ever. Way to show character.

Ms.Peach said...

kimmer said...
Kate's outfit looks like something one would wear to church... It is Sunday... I can see her playing the victim role... I took all the kids to church while Jon was away.. Poor me!

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I think her church told her and Jon to take a hike, so I have no idea if she attends anywhere now.

As far as the CA Women's conference, the last I heard was that she was not really a "featured" speaker but would have a booth promoting a book with some limited speaking time. Really don't know much about it.

The Ed Hardy clothes---I think that has been in the works for quite a while. I think they gave Jon the clothes to wear to see if it generated a buzz, which it did. Maybe they are going after the 30 something crowd?

I think Jon and Glassman girl are not serious, but it is what I would call a "mutally beneficial" relationship, if you get my drift.

I love the fact that he met her through her father, the plastic surgeon, which never wouldn't have happened if Kate hadn't pulled her "poor me" routine on the show. Sometimes you pay a lot for those freebies!

In regards to Steve, no one knows what happened, but he's no longer in the picture. I strongly suspect his wife pulled the plug.
I don't think Jon planted the information regarding an affair. That sounds too much like something coming from Kate's people. She's going to go after Jon in the tabloids. That was the point of her grocery shopping, showing the dedicated mom lugging groceries.

These are all just my guesses.

Sabreena said...

SarahJoyMiller said...

I read about the kindergarten question with interest. It would have been great to hire a couple of pre-school teachers (or college students) and create a little pre-school every day (for a few hours) right in the house with the kids (and maybe even a few friends) and without the parents. I would have loved to watch it! Also, with that gorgeous pool, why not hire a couple of life guards/swim coaches and helpers and host some swimming lessons? With that beautiful acreage they could have hosted a "Family Camp" and had all kinds of lessons, experiences,and FUN with each other and some friends. I believe these kind of experiences would have helped the kids, made the show interesting and meaningful and also focused ON the kids instead of the parents. What do you think?
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Here's what I think. The children need to be enjoying their life without being in filmed by cameras for our enjoyment.

Loftgirl said...

Kate hasn't taken her diamond wedding ring off, because to her it doesn't symbolize her union with John, but rather her social status.

If that ring was a simple gold band she would have taken it off long ago.

SaraL. said...

SarahJoyMiller, I completely agree! I would have done that a few years ago if they were mine. Also with the new house it would have been great. They could have turned the apartment over the garage into a learning space. I guess everyone was to busy to do something like that!

chesterctymom said...

SarayJoyMiller said...

I just checked on the CA Women's Conference and Kate is NOT listed as a speaker.
http://www.californiawomen.org/speakers/
Does anyone have an update?


She is probably listed as an exhibitor and not a speaker.

Kannie said...

My understanding is that Kate will play a minor role at the Shriver conference, essentially hawking her picture book in a tent away from the main event. Meantime, heads should roll in Shriver's office for Kate being invited in the first place after it was suggested by the kids. Clearly, Kate wasn't properly vetted by staff. Had anyone bothered to Google her in the last year they would have had access to GWOP and Julie's (Jodi's sis) blog. Both are rich sources of information about Kate's antics.

Snerk said...

To me a good question for Ms. Shriver is why she isn't keeping better tabs on what her daughters are watching and discussing the show with them so they don't walk away with the attitude that Kate is a woman worth admiring.

Janice in NC said...

Just went to California Women's Conference site and it is completely different than it was 3 or 4 days ago. At that time, selected speakers were named and a picture of each was there. KHATE was there in all her glory. Now it says the complete list of speakers will be announced July 13 Hmmmmm. I am going to be very curious to see if KHATE's been bumped off the list. I fired off several e-mails asking why Kate was speaking and how she represented what the conference is all about. How does a child exploiting, wanna' be celebrity represent ANY cause for women? Maybe enough of us did it to get her knocked off! That and Jon Boy with his girl toy in France will have KHATE enraged. Hope the kids are with not-a-nanny. As I write this, part of me is asking why do I wish failure for KHATE. It's the fact that she made her "fame" off of her children and treated the kids, Jon, fans, and family like TRASH! She became "entitled" instead of blessed. It became all about Khate. So, yea, KHATE, hope you get knocked off your pedestal hard. Try prioritizing your life around how you can raise happy, healthy kids and not how THEY CAN MAKE YOU RICH!!!!!! OHHHHHHH I really hope she's not speaking at the CA. conference!!!!!!!1

Janice in NC said...

Me again. This link takes you to ALL speakers at California women's Conference. Probably 50 or more names. NO KATE GOSSELIN! I don't know if she will make the "final cut" tomorrow, but this list looks pretty full, and has MANY more speakers than it had o it a few days ago. LOVE IT!!!!!!! KHATE was DUMPED AGAIN!! (Mr. Gray, lol)
I tried checking under "exhibitors" and none were listed. Just told you how to notify them if interested in being an exhibitor.

http://www.californiawomen.org/speakers/2009/MainStage/

Sharla said...

Dear anonymous, I read your complaints. More than likely your comments were rejected without being read. If you'll look just above the box where you type the comment, it says anonymous comments will be rejected. A few slip through now and again, but over 95% aren't even read.

2badsosad said...

SarahJoyMiller said...

I read about the kindergarten question with interest. It would have been great to hire a couple of pre-school teachers (or college students) and create a little pre-school every day (for a few hours) right in the house with the kids (and maybe even a few friends) and without the parents. I would have loved to watch it! Also, with that gorgeous pool, why not hire a couple of life guards/swim coaches and helpers and host some swimming lessons? With that beautiful acreage they could have hosted a "Family Camp" and had all kinds of lessons, experiences,and FUN with each other and some friends. I believe these kind of experiences would have helped the kids, made the show interesting and meaningful and also focused ON the kids instead of the parents. What do you think?


EXPLOITATION. Making the scenerios more interesting and meaninful and the focus primarily on the children does not/will not minimize the exploitation factor.

Rosie said...

The reason Kate was out today at the grocery store in high heels and miniskirt again is to say to everyone "Here I am WORLD, I know Jon is in France with Hailey, but look, I'm out shopping and all dolled up, so I don't care."
Right. In her mind she is proving something to the media. Instead, she should be lying low. She has all week to shop, but not Kate, she wants to be seen the day after Jon's news broke just to be visable. She STILL competing with him. Give it up Kate, no on cares!

PullThePlug said...

In regards to Steve, no one knows what happened, but he's no longer in the picture. I strongly suspect his wife pulled the plug.
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I understand what you mean by this, but let me speak as one who has BEEN THERE (If I was KHate I would be playing a violin now)---you can't just "pull the plug.' Some men aren't going to "do what you say" as the wife. Sometimes they will call you on that ultimatum, and YOU are the one left out in the cold.
We eventually reconciled (after I and the kids lived thru True Hell), BUT, there was a period in there, at the height of "it", that if I had declared I was "pullling the plug" on HIS affair, he would've laughed. After all, you as the wife have NO control. That is what is SOooo scary. You can't just call the other woman's house and tell her to Send Johnny home, it's dinnertime.
Bad memories. / But anyway, I strongly suspect any decision Steve made, IF he had been involved w/KHate at all, was his own decision. And I for one, am super-glad he did. ONE family saved!

No church Sunday said...

There is no way that Kate went to any church service today. If she DID take the kids to church, why aren't they with her. What did she do, drop them off at home before shopping? No, this was Kate's day to flaunt herself, as if to say I don't care about Jon's trip.
Believe me, there was no church appearence in Kate's day.

Pull the plug said...

I think the company that Steve WORKS for pulled the plug. Nevermind his wife. The security company he worked for was flooded with complaints about his unprofessional behavior. I don't think he or his wife stopped his bodyguarding at all, but the head of the firm.

Becky Q in PA said...

GinnyLavine13 said...
I don't think its so much that the Dept of Labor is turning their backs on the Gosselin kids, but that they really can't do anything about it. I don't know anything about PA Law except for what you posted above but the law pretty much said that the children who are "performing" must be paid if the others involved are getting paid.... well, J+K and the TLC team have all made it pretty clear that according to them the children are not performing and TLC is documenting their every day lives. Although I think thats flat out bull s**t, thats what their defense is and I think that until its proven 100% that the G kids ARE working, the above law just won't be applied. Sad.

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I should've included the whole text, but wanted to highlight the fact that since J&K are getting paid, the children are working.

The first definition below leaves no doubt that the show is a performance, since the kids are both "modeling"--does ANYONE think those photo shoots weren't work? Those poor kids!--and on a "television" or "media" or a "similar form of entertainment." I don't see how TLC, who's making MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, is trying to say this is some kind of news program or documentary. This is NOT a documentary. Someone from TLC even admitted in an interview that they "script" the shows, and Paul Petersen points out (in the same article as the definitions):

"Just look what we've done by going along with this fiction that reality shows are somehow different than scripted television shows. Not only have we deluded ourselves that the presence of cameras have no impact on the participants, we've somehow suspended disbelief when it comes to the calculated deliberations of the production team that puts all the elements together, deliberations in the case of "J&K+8" that involve the admitted participation of Jon and Kate.

When the Writers Guild of America went out on strike last year one of their demands was that the writers of reality television be covered under the Basic Agreement. Keep that in mind."


It's a great article if you have time to read it on Aunt Jodi's sister's site (June 5th). The only outdated part is that the PA Dept of Labor investigation is underway, since on June 23rd, his next article reports that everyone's still WAITING for the investigation (if it will ever happen).

Here's the part of the article that shows the definitions:

"This is not a recreational debate. The future of Jon and Kate's children is at issue, and while everyone is entitled to their own opinion, not everyone is entitled to alter the facts of this matter.

§ 11.1. Definitions.


The following words and terms, when used in this subchapter, have the following meanings, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise:

Employer--Any person who for his own account or benefit or that of his patrons, directly or indirectly, or through an employee, agent, independent contractor, or any other person employs or permits any minor to work in theatrical productions, musical recitals or concerts, entertainment acts, modeling, radio, television, motion picture making, or in other similar forms or media of entertainment.

Employment--A minor engaged in a performance shall be deemed employed, if any person, including the performer, his parent or teacher, receives remuneration from the performance or if any performer in the production is paid for performing.

Pennsylvania does, in fact, have laws and regulations governing the protection of Minors involved in the performing arts..."


I'm not sure how PA is continuing to ignore this. I'm thinking maybe I should contact my Congressman, or start hounding the governor. I only live an hour from the capital of PA...

marypoppins said...

Enough about france etc,
When are we going to hear that the state has forced J and K to put money in a trust for the kids because they earned it! When are we going to hear that there will be a limit on the days and # of hours the kids WORK.

Ms.Peach said...

Thanks for the insight why Steve is gone. Whatever happened, its for the best. I was just thinking about it if I was in Gina Neild's position. He really did a number on his family. A real jerk.

CarrieB said...

My main question after this article was - what friends? I was unaware Kate had any friends...

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/07/kate-furious-jon%E2%80%99s-french-trip-girlfriend-says-source

Jennifer D said...

I am back from the twilight zone...

I joined the Facebook site for the "fans"...talking to those people is like talking to someone that can't handle basic logic. No matter how politely or carefully you try to point things out someone is going to scream "Leave that family alone"....

Today they are talking about Kate and how sad she looks while she is shopping in heels, a dress and full make-up. They are also talking about how sweet the family is on the picnic. In the friggen FRONT yard.

I pointed out that Kate and the paparazzi had an APPOINTMENT at the supermarket. She dressed up because they were expecting each other. Then I pointed out that they have picnic tables and the only reason they are using the FRONT YARD is to get pictures taken.

In the face of all logic they say that Kate is dressing up because jon made her sad and the picnic is just sweet. They need to pool their nickels together and buy themselves a clue.

PicnicMeansNoMessInHouse said...

Picnic on the front lawn while Jon's in France...wouldn't a picnic by the pool, in private, be nicer? Also, anybody see a DOG or two in any of those photos? I sure didn't. I worry that when Kate is "in residence" the dogs are "in (crate) prison."

Zoe said...

Jennifer D said...

...They need to pool their nickels together and buy themselves a clue.
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LOL

Not a fan of either said...

O.K. this is totally off the subject but I just looked at the picture of Kate at the pretend picnic. What in the name of good taste is up with all these ugly hats she has suddenly started wearing????? Don't get me wrong, I love hats, but I have yet to see her in one that is tasteful, flattering, and cute. It's like she suddenly said, "now let me see just how silly I can look." I don't get it. (I know there are much bigger issues here, I just couldn't help myself.)

bcsurvivor2001 said...

Dang, that woman shops a lot for being so organized (said with tongue in cheek).

I know there are a lot of mouths to feed - but seems she's at the store every other day.

And has nobody told her about reycleable bags? I've not seen that much plastic in once spot in ages (at least in my area)

PaMa said...

I just checked out the pictures on Just Jared. It looks like the picnic/photo op isn't in their front yard, as water is visible in the background. And I really wouldn't call it a picnic, since it appears that they just have water bottles and crackers. But it does look like Kate picked a very public place to play her role as long-suffering mother.

Also, I noticed that she didn't have a hat on while at the grocery store, but does have one on at the "picnic". That would lead me to believe that the purpose of her hats is not to hide her hair, but rather to protect her hair/skin from the sun.

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

I can't believe that Kate uses those plastic bags for her grocery shopping and not those canvas bags. Is it me or has she put some weight on? Her legs lot fat. She doesn't really look like she is very happy. I guess she saw the photos of Jon and Hailey.

Jacsamic said...

Kate Gosselin makes me sick.

Using your children for yet another planned photo op because Jon is off making $$$ you will never get.

LOOK AT THE CHILDRENS' FACES. See how they sit away from you Kate? See how they spot the camera and look right into it? Disgustig.

Where are the dogs???

You have a back yard. Use it.

Jan from PA said...

Lordy be! I just checked the CA women's Conference site. Katie Couric has Khate's hairdo!!!

It suits her, though. I think she is just as mean as Khate.

Maybe they should call it "Hate Hair" :-)

Mama don't lie said...

I believe the article said the 'picnic' was on Saturday and the food shopping photo op was on Sunday. And, Yes they are in the front yard as the garage doors are behind them..there is no water on the property. The little car the kids have is on the blacktop driveway.
Notice the body language when the kids are with Kate. When they are with Jon, they are hanging all over him and hugging him.

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