Too Bad the Gosselins Don't Live in California

LOS ANGELES — California authorities slapped an online site today with four child-labor law violations for videotaping two of Nadya Suleman's octuplets without safeguards to protect their health and welfare.

State Labor Commissioner Angela Bradstreet said RadarOnline endangered the newborns, Noah and Isaiah Suleman, by failing to get required state permits, videotaping the infants at hours and for periods of time banned by regulations, and for failing to provide a monitor to watch over them during taping sessions.

"These babies were put at risk and exposed to conditions that violated California labor laws," Bradstreet said about the ongoing investigation. "In this case, we are dealing with premature babies."

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33 comments:

=^..^= said...

yep, yep! proof positive that TLC knew what they were doing when they extended their offer to the greedy, greedy grosselins!

man, can it get any clearer??

Karma said...

The first line of the article is: "Somewhere across the country in Pennsylvania, Kate Gosselin is no doubt cracking a smile." Yeah, K8 is smiling because PA doesn't have the same laws...the article ends with "karm is a bitch". And with the latest spanking pictures, that karma might just be coming back at K8!

4thekids said...

I honestly believe that in my lifetime there is going to be a law to protect children on reality tv programs and they will call it the "Gosselin Law." I'm actually glad Nadya Suleman lives in California where these laws are in place. Hopefully it will pave the way for laws to come up around the country so that somebody will start protecting these kids.

Mother of Two(couldn't afford more...) said...

Who is lobbying the Pennsylvania state legislators and Pennsylvania governor to hurry up and change their woefully lacking state laws to protect the Gosselin children?

Dew said...

Don't forget the Gosselins have filmed separate episodes in California at least three times, if not more. Just because you're travelling there from somewhere else doesn't mean you don't need to comply with all their regulations.

These same people giving Radar a hard time need to take a hard look at exactly what the working conditions were of those children when California graciously let them come into the state to film. I can almost promise they were in violation of some if not many labor laws, as the children were all very young at the time, and kids that age are not permitted to work more than an hour or two in California, including kids on reality shows.

Lynn said...

Mother of Two(couldn't afford more...) said...
Who is lobbying the Pennsylvania state legislators and Pennsylvania governor to hurry up and change their woefully lacking state laws to protect the Gosselin children?

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If the laws are changed in Pennsylvania, the Gosselins will simply move to another state. Folks, this reform needs to go nation wide.

Momof2 said...

So now we know Kate surely has a contract with Radaronline as well....oh how greasy can you get Kate? Just squeezing every last dime outta those kids aren't ya?

NoUse4Kate said...

This made my day. May the wheels of justice start turning in PA.

erin said...

Karma, are we reading the same article? I see neither of those sentences. I would highly recommend not posting such falsehoods. People tend to take them and run with them as truth.

squattmunkie said...

I just read this at the AP and I was going to e-mail you the link!

This is sad, just because the Gosselin's live in no where PA they are allowed to work those kids night and day.

I bet Kate is doing her cackle witch laugh right now. What a beeyotch.

Just wait a few years, we will soon have 8 big stories to read.

squattmunkie said...

Forgot to add. I followed the Radaronline videos with Octomom and they were very short. She would film with the kids in the background, or a baby sleeping, or rocking a baby.

It was NOTHING like J&K+8. The focus was on getting an interview with Nayda not filming the kids.

If Nayda gets in trouble for that they J&K+8 wouldn't exist in CA.

Dew said...

I think 50 years from now the entertainment industry will look back on these times with total distain and embarrassment. The Gosselins are the Jackie Coogans of their day. It's a shame the first Jackie Coogan didn't provide enough warning.

Denise said...

erin, here it is:
http://www.eonline.com/
"Somewhere across the country in Pennsylvania, Kate Gosselin is no doubt cracking a smile.

Gosselin's nemesis and would-be reality-TV rival Nadya Suleman and her mouthpiece website, RadarOnline, are feeling the heat from California officials for child-labor violations involving Octomom's brood."

Lora said...

I think the whole point of the Octo-mom ruling was that these are premature infants! The Gosselins didn't have a TV show when the kids were that young.

beachluvin said...

"Too bad the Gosselins Dont Live in California" - I am glad Kate doesn't live in California but I would welcome those kids any day of the week.

What exactly are the fines or penalties that Radaronline will have to pay?

Serena said...

I think the whole point of the Octo-mom ruling was that these are premature infants! The Gosselins didn't have a TV show when the kids were that young.

Wrong. Their prematurity is not the main point, it only makes the violation more egregious.

The initial charge deals only with one day of filming (March 17) -- the day that Noah and Isaiah were brought home from the hospital. They were the first to come home and filmed by Radaronline, thus they are the first to be named in the charge.

Additional charges may be pending, as the other Suleman children have also been filmed under conditions violating California's child labor laws.

theirlifeisanightmare said...

What bothers me is that Jon and Kate have been doing this for years before Octomom got in on it.Why is she(octo) going to have to bear the consequences of these new regulations while the other two still reap the rewards?
It just doesn't make sense to me.

Sharla said...

What bothers me is that Jon and Kate have been doing this for years before Octomom got in on it. Why is she(octo) going to have to bear the consequences of these new regulations while the other two still reap the rewards?
It just doesn't make sense to me.


It's because this is covered by state law and it varies from state to state. Cali's is very strict while Penn's is very lax.

Serena said...

What exactly are the fines or penalties that Radaronline will have to pay?

For this initial charge only, approximately $3K. Yeah, it doesn't cost much to cover your butt if you want to exploit children. Let's hope there are additional, more costly, charges to come.

What bothers me is that Jon and Kate have been doing this for years before Octomom got in on it.Why is she(octo) going to have to bear the consequences of these new regulations while the other two still reap the rewards?

These regulations aren't new in California (where Radaronline films the Sulemans); they've been in place for a long time now.

Pennsylvania has no laws that protect children like the Gosselins, and Figure 8/TLC/Jon and Kate all have no conscience; that's why they all continue to reap the rewards.

Karma said...

Erin - Nothing I said was a falsehood. Here's the article as written on E!online by Josh Grossberg:

Somewhere across the country in Pennsylvania, Kate Gosselin is no doubt cracking a smile.

Gosselin's nemesis and would-be reality-TV rival Nadya Suleman and her mouthpiece website, RadarOnline, are feeling the heat from California officials for child-labor violations involving Octomom's brood.

State Labor Commissioner Angela Bradstreet alleges the entertainment site failed to take out the requisite permits before videotaping Octotots Noah and Isaiah and ignored laws governing the amount of time the infants could be on camera.

View the Radar agreement and the citation
And that could just be the tip of the iceberg.

Department of Labor spokesman Dean Fryer says the alleged violations occurred March 17 and involve the very first videos of the newborns.

"The investigation remains open," he stresses, adding that unless Radar gets compliant with the law, it could face additional sanctions, since the children have been seen in videos since their March debut.

So far, Radar has been cited for the following: failure to have a permit for employing minors, punishable by a $500 fine; failure to have an entertainment permit for two children, doubling the fine to $1,000; working outside the law's set hours, punishable by another $1,000; and failure to have a supervisor and/or teacher, which is another $500.

Per state guidelines, infants are only allowed to"work" between 9:30 a.m. and 11:30 a.m. and between 2:30 p.m. and 4:30 p.m., and can only be on camera for no more than 20 minutes at a time.

Radar, owned by America Media Inc., which also operates the National Enquirer, has until July 7 to appeal.

Chris Myers, Radar's executive editor, did not return phone calls seeking comment.

The agency initiated its investigation May 4, three weeks after Suleman signed a contract giving Radar exclusive rights to document her 14 children, including the octuplets born in January.

"It came to our attention that RadarOnline announced they were going to provide footage of the children," says Fryer.

And apparently another of Suleman's antagonists, gadfly lawyer Gloria Allred, has had a hand in the state probe. "She's been helpful. We interviewed for her as part of our investigation," adds Fryer.

At a press conference this afternoon, Allred said that it is "clear the babies are in danger."

"Because Nadya Suleman has chosen to commercially exploit her babies by allowing them to be filmed, she and those with whom she has contracts must follow the law which exists for the protection of these innocent babies," she told reporters.

"The entertainment industry, the media, and Nadya Suleman are now on notice that the health, safety, and welfare of these babies is paramount. The message has now been sent loudly and clearly that the babies' rights may not be sacrificed or violated simply because others wish to profit."

As for Octomom, she's been Octomum on the whole mess—which is out of character for the camera-friendly matriarch.

Suleman, who is currently shopping her own reality TV series, has made headlines in recent days for repeatedly slamming Gosselin in Radar videos.

As Kate might happily point out, karma's a bitch.

—Additional reporting by Whitney English

(Originally published June 16, 2009, at 12:25 p.m. PT)

just wondering said...

So do you think Kate will welcome Nadya to the neighborhood when Ndaya packs up and moves to PA?

After all, PA HAS NO LAWS!!

Maybe Nadya can move into Kate's house when she moves to NC.

Tami said...

I think the whole point of the Octo-mom ruling was that these are premature infants! The Gosselins didn't have a TV show when the kids were that young.

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Are you serious? Uh, the Gosselins were preemies too and what on earth is the difference if they were filmed shortly after Nadya's kids and not right at birth? KON was still getting their scheme together then, but they sure made up for lost time of missing out on filming them immediately!

Child Exploitation Must End said...

I for one am going to boycott RadarOnline. I hope RadarOnline will soon be RadarOffline.

met said...

Octomom should pack up and move to PA. THEN, MAYBE they would change the laws!

Beejcctx said...

Actually, the point of whether Figure8 DID comply with the California laws IS significant - and could be a tipping point for all this. Can't say that the Grifters were just taping the kids at Legoland with their old 8mm camera - they were filmed by a professional video/sound crew with professional equipment!

I would hope that Peterson or whoever is investigating can push to have the RAW footage and all the timesheets/payroll for the employees as evidence - that way a court can determine if they purchased the film permits for each of the kids, complied with having an on-set counselor for the kids - etc.

This is a TIPPING POINT - right up there with the spanking incident.

SKB516 said...

I've seen a couple comments here & on other posts suggesting that K8 may move to NC because there are no child labor laws. I live in NC, and though I don't claim to be an expert on these things, we do have child labor laws. Like most states, I doubt they cover reality TV stars (which is the problem), but it's not as if we've got kids working in sweat shops down here. LOL

I live in Wilmington, where a lot of filming for movies and TV shows has been done over the past 20+ years, and I've picked up a few things over the years in terms of how child talent is handled. Again, no expert, but from personal experience, I've seen that it's not a free-for-all. There is a child actor on the show that is currently filmed here (I think he's a bit younger than Cara & Mady), and I've heard the crew tell people that he can't come over to greet fans because he's worked as much as he is allowed for the day and they have to put him in the van and send him home. So even though he's not filming, they apparently still consider even casually meeting fans as "working" and are careful to not overstep their bounds. They've also used infants and have commented that they can only be on set for a couple hours at time. When my sister was 15 or 16, she visited me and wanted to be an extra on the show. My dad had to sign a release giving her permission to "work" even though it was only for a few hours & basically involved sitting around in the background at a basketball game.

Of course these things wouldn't neccesarily protect the Gosselin children because K8 would be more than willing to sign on the dotted line, giving permission for the gravy train to keep rolling. But I think the issue in NC, just as it is in PA, has more to do with there needing to be new laws specifically for reality stars as opposed to there being a general lack of child labor laws in the film industry here. I suppose some of it may also have to do with the integrity of the showrunners themselves. If the laws really aren't that strict, maybe it's left up to each individual production and that explains why some seem more strict than others. If that's the case then yes, there certainly should be stricter laws.

Emily said...

Not sure if this is even the right place to post this, but I was wondering: is the Hayes family (Table for Twelve) returning to TLC?

Just curious because I haven't seen them advertised. I only watched one episode and while I liked the refreshing family dynamic (so much more loving and relaxed then J&K+8) I hate that those kids are being exploited, too. Those parents seem smarter than J&K so maybe they will stay off the air.

ANyone know any plans for them?

wendyzr said...

OMG and that Nadia was judging Kate? she said her show would not exploit her own children and be responsible. Not an "entertainment" show but a doc like show.

wendyzr said...

Serena said...

I think the whole point of the Octo-mom ruling was that these are premature infants! The Gosselins didn't have a TV show when the kids were that young.

Wrong. Their prematurity is not the main point, it only makes the violation more egregious.

The initial charge deals only with one day of filming (March 17) -- the day that Noah and Isaiah were brought home from the hospital. They were the first to come home and filmed by Radaronline, thus they are the first to be named in the charge.

Additional charges may be pending, as the other Suleman children have also been filmed under conditions violating California's child labor laws.
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Suleman fired the Angels in Waiting BECAUSE they had called CPS on her. They were exempt from signing a confidentiality agreement because they are funded by donations and have to answer to the donors. They were also asked to by Suleman's attorney but refused.

They were there not only to care for the babies but to be the eyes to watch over and report suspected and predicted abuse. The new nannies DID sign it so they cannot say a word. There has been no witnesses/voice for the kids since AIW left. So all that will reported is from March.

wendyzr said...

Dew said...

Don't forget the Gosselins have filmed separate episodes in California at least three times, if not more. Just because you're travelling there from somewhere else doesn't mean you don't need to comply with all their regulations.

These same people giving Radar a hard time need to take a hard look at exactly what the working conditions were of those children when California graciously let them come into the state to film. I can almost promise they were in violation of some if not many labor laws, as the children were all very young at the time, and kids that age are not permitted to work more than an hour or two in California, including kids on reality shows.
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WOW! How do we get a hold of these CA officials?

season 5? said...

You know what's sad? This blog is the only place I've heard about the charges for Nadya S. But the main point is that she and radar were found gulity, and that SOMEONE is paying attention to child labor laws.

Maybe the rest of the media is too busy covering the president killing a fly.

And posters in cyberspace(not on this blog) are coming out of the woodwork to defend a parent's right to spank.

Just looking forward to the day when filming kids for "reality shows" comes to a screeching halt. Maybe not screeching, but stopped.

ratherbkayaking said...

Another poster had mentioned a recent blog entry on "A minor consideration". I did find this post and the mention that Paul Peterson made of how he wished the monies that the White House recently pledged to end global child labor should be put to use right in the US. I'm not American, so I had to look up this announcement. Wow. How ironic that there is a situation that is occurring less than a 2 hour drive from the White House that fits the description of child laborers of this announcement:

THE WHITE HOUSE

Office of the Press Secretary
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE June 12, 2009

Statement by President Barack Obama on World Day Against Child labor


Even in this modern era, children around the world are forced to work in deplorable and often dangerous conditions at a time in their lives when they should be in classrooms and playgrounds. Global child labor perpetuates a cycle of poverty that prevents families and nations from reaching their full potential. That’s why, earlier this week, Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis reaffirmed my Administration’s commitment to this issue by announcing $60 million to fight child labor.

I also find it fitting that this year’s World Day Against Child Labor focuses on drawing attention to the particular plight young girls face. Of the 218 million child laborers worldwide, 100 million are girls – more than half of whom are exposed to hazardous work. That’s unacceptable, and this world cannot allow it. We must stand united in opposition to child labor and recommit ourselves to ending this practice in all its forms – today and every day.

SavinMaven said...

I think we all have strong feelings about the real-life implications of this show. The truth is so skewered, that it's hard for me to know what is real. Instead, I looked to the past- stories like the Dionne quintuplets, to support my point. We also know stories of momagers and greedy people who swindled child actors out of their earnings.

I'm not a fan of this show, but I think the children should at least have legal protection to secure their earnings.