A Publicists Take

The following was sent to us by a reader. She said that as the owner of a publicist/media relations/crisis communications firm, she had been thinking about what she would say to Kate if she had the chance. She sat down and put it all on paper and wanted to share it with the readers here. She does not, and says she will not, work for Kate.

Submitted by Gosslip Girl

141 comments:

fostersmom said...

Kate,
While it is unfortunate to be meeting on these terms, it is in no way surprising. You see, I used to watch your show. I wouldn’t call myself a fan but during the period of my viewership your show was interesting enough. I related to you, in that watching the manner in which you treated others around you reflected the worst in my personality and you helped remind me to be a better person. Unfortunately, that deterrent probably wasn’t enough, my breaking point was the day I said to myself, “I’m not going to watch another one of Kate Gosselin’s kids have damned tantrum.” Our household now watches “Intervention” in place of JK8 and with its crackheads, meth freaks and alcoholics it’s still less of a train wreck than your show. So let me preface this piece by saying, I know what it’s like to have your personality, I’ve watched your show from the beginning and I am in no way jealous of you: I have a successful career, a happy marriage, a
darling son, and two obedient and charming rescue dogs. Additionally, I have no desire to raise 8 children, to be on TV, or to be (in)famous. So the advice I give to you today is brutally honest but without malice. You should feel lucky I give it to you for free because there are people in corporate America, the entertainment industry and politics who pay handsomely for it.

To begin, you MUST end your show on TLC. There is no avoiding this, there is no available compromise. It has to be done. Beyond restoring your “image” it is mandatory for the following reason:
Your children are going to sue you.
Not today. Not tomorrow. But within the next decade you face the potential of 8 very aggrieved plaintiffs. It doesn’t even matter it they have a case, or if they win; but you’re going to court. I’ve seen your children’s behavior at this age and time is but a magnifying glass, I would bet one of the very first times you deny them money, or a car, there will be hell to pay. And it will not be long before they come for all that is due them. Kate, there is video evidence.
Save all of your money, you will need it. Learn to live modestly.
Start being a better mother. Perhaps they will repress these early years.
Stop making your money off of your kids’ backs.

fostersmom said...

You need to begin to live like a normal person, no more book tours, talks shows, nothing. End the show, take 2 years and retreat from the public eye entirely. You are too over-exposed for a “rehab tour” to ever be effective. Re-exposure will not win back any hearts. If your publicists and managers are telling you to do that, they do not have your best interests at heart, they are riding your gravy train as long as they can. So no talking to Rachel Ray about how hard it’s been but you’re getting through and working on strengthening your family nonsense. You have no credibility. You will only get credibility when you earn it. Again, that means ending the show, at this point there is no suitable reason for continuing the show, the public already knows what you don’t. By continuing you do not have your children’s well being in mind. At this point, there is no perk that being on the show can give them that you can’t provide off camera. You can
afford trips to Park City, do it, alone. Give your children what you can’t right now, attention. That’s what they all desperately want. We can see that.
While we’re still talking about your image: you must change your hair. It can be gradual. First you need to use a 2 inch round metal brush in the back. I understand you like the height, but it DOES NOT LOOK GOOD. As you blow dry, use the roller brush to boost that section up, but also under. After a month of that look, have the front section softened so that it flows more gracefully towards the back. Do this slowly so as not to attract any attention from the paps and the inevitable, “Kate gets new haircut to save marriage, show!” headlines. Additionally, your colorist needs to be shot. I recognize you probably don’t want to go to prison, so continuing education for her is important. The deep contrast highlights are so done. Over. For at least 5 years now. Yes, people you know still do it, and were doing it just a few years ago, but you live in Pennsylvania. Believe me it’s done. Find a better colorist and a more natural look.

Retreat, regroup, rethink. Your marriage may be over, but I’ve seen worse marriages come back. You will need to apologize. You will need to learn to respect your husband. He does not show you love because you don’t respect him, you don’t respect him because he doesn’t show you love. Break your crazy cycle. Read the book Love and Respect.

After enough time has passed you may even float the idea of a few specials, “The Gosselins Learn to Drive” or “A Gosselin Graduation” but recognize that this time in your life is over.
And remember to keep your kids away from lawyers.

The author is a publicist, specializing in crisis communications, and prefers to remain anonymous in an effort to avoid offending any of her paying clients.

motoricitymama said...

that is so awesome. There are so many intelligent people on this site who see right through this garbage.

and OMG, about died about the hair. I live in a not-so-hip suburb of Detroit and even we know that skunky highlights were over in 2005.

Its still over said...

All I can say is WOW. You said it all and beautifully.

Not a fan of either said...

Excellent post. You just said it all. Now if only she will listen.

Shun Them! said...

Your children are going to sue you.
Not today. Not tomorrow. But within the next decade you face the potential of 8 very aggrieved plaintiffs.
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That goes for you, too, TLC, and everybody else involved in this horrifying Truman show.

justsayin' said...

The Gosselin kids don't behave any better or any worse than any other kids.

Zarabear said...

Bravo! :) :)
(first time poster, long time lurker)

shaw said...

Check out the stuff that is being said on Blindgossip.com
This beak up really has been coming for a long time

Sal said...

Bravo! Wonderful article! Thank you so much for saying so elloquently what all of us have been thinking.

Mother of Two(couldn't afford more...) said...

Kate will never stop on her own. She said as much on the show, that she will continue the show and the book tours as long as she's breathing. The only thing that can possible stop her is some kind of lawsuit. Someone needs to save Kate from HERSELF, because she just can't stop herself. A lawsuit could actually be a blessing in disguise.

moma4faith said...

Very well written. Sadly, will K8 ever be willing to take advice from anyone but her(all knowing)self?

Rebecca said...

Bravo. If only Kate would take it to heart...

nomorekonartists said...

That was so great and to the point. The author did not try to attack Kate, but rather wrote this piece in order to help her. Bravo.

No-Mo-Pinkslips said...

It's interesting how everyone begins with "You must end this show." Lets be real, that's the one option that is NOT on the table. This isn't about feeding or re-imaging a splintered family of 10, it's about 500+ families making a living --> that's the trickle down reality of any semi-popular show with books, appearances, side merchandise, etc.

Same thing happened when Steve Irwin croaked ... within days "the Irwin machine" put child Bindi forward as the face person, because the Irwin industry was 500x larger than just the Irwin family itself.

So congratulations, fans and rubber neckers alike, the Gosselin industry is no different, even mid-train-wreck, those 8 kids may have gold spoons now, but before you cry for them too much, consider those other 500 families who feel fortunate with the plasticware that the Gosselin industry provides to them.

Joyhawk said...

EXCELLENT post, just fabulous.

How wonderful of this person to take the time to write such a remarkable piece of advice - minus the malice.

And not only does it all seem like very good advice, I'm betting that in the end it will prove out to be some of the best advice Kate should take, but sadly, probably won't.

No-Mo-Pinkslips said...

... ok, one other side note, for those who think the 8 kids are in purgatory (but frankly, I'd swap places with any one of them .. I dream for a day when I have such plush daily abuse as they do)...

Here is the "Please Everyone" idea --> drop the kids from the show .. it could easily finish off the season with the Jon & Kate antics by themselves. Rename it "Jon & Kate Plus Hate." I better copyright that before Kate does.

Ravello said...

Terrific observations and suggestions.
Even though I detest Kate, I want her to get her life together for the sake of the 8 kids.

blamingoftheshrew said...

How about dressing in a more appropriate manner for someone your age who is the mother of 8 kids?
In addition, try cracking a book once in a while instead of focusing on gathering more and more material things. Focus, also, on enjoying, spending time with and playing with your kids, as Jon does. They won't be kids for very long.

ICExploitation said...

Forget about suing - in 9 or so for years Cara and Mady and in 13 or so years for the tups may bring about the same shunning that Kate has done to her own parents.

Sarolite said...

justsayin' said...

The Gosselin kids don't behave any better or any worse than any other kids.


I respectfully disagree. I know a couple of families of 10-12 children whose children are better behaved. And none of them wear bibs past age 3.

Daner said...

I can't help but think if Kate had friends or family around she would actually listen to something! Sad thing is she doesn't and she is going to lose everything due to her greed.

The spin that PR peeps are trying to put on this is BS and anybody with two eyes and a brain can see the truth.

Kate needs help, soon.

brillant said...

Kate-- another freebie! You just got some of the best advice of your life for FREE!! Take it, take it and truly do "what's best for your children".

You.can.still.save.yourself.and.your.kids!!

Sara said...

You have no credibility. You will only get credibility when you earn it.

Psst... you are giving advice to someone who has never cared about credibility, one way or the other.

Sara said...

you don’t respect him because he doesn’t show you love

Og please, this is utter baloney. Jon was very often affectionate (or tried to be) in the early episodes.

The reason Kate doesn't respect Jon is because she knows she is stronger than he is and that always breeds contempt in a woman.

Poor Kiddos said...

This is such a fantastic letter. I just WISH that someone in authority would call Kate out in this way, and that she would actually LISTEN. I also agree with the person who said Kate needs to actually enjoy this time with her kids. Most moms try to bask in every moment of their kids' early childhoods. Before long, Kate will have 8 snarly preteens/teens on her hands and she'll wish that she could have these days back. I hope that hits her before it's too late.

Laura said...

Bravo! Excellent post.
Wow if Kate doesn't stop IMMEDIATELY there will be hell to pay.

AnneMarie said...

[b] justsayin' said...
The Gosselin kids don't behave any better or any worse than any other kids.

6/24/2009 4:34 PM

[/b]
Snort. I almost choked on my iced tea! So you're saying their average? SO NOT SO!

ImFrancie said...

Sadly, Kate's own PR peeps might be giving her similar advice, which she refuses to follow because, in her narcissistic and deluded mind, Kate Gosselin is Famous and Important.

Or, Kate's PR peeps might have been hired by TLC, perhaps even hand-picked by Evil O'Neill, and they are reinforcing her delusions of grandeur in order to keep the train rolling.

(Sorry, I meant Ellen O'Neill. My bad.)

Anonymomma said...

Oh,the hair LOL!

I do my own highlights. And I normally double process by coloring my hair a few shades darker before I do anything (I have naturally dark brown hair).

This time, I muffed it up. I went too dark and now I'm trying to gradually fade the color. Sucks because I really want to break up the monotony of all one shade but I know if I do it now I'll look like Kate!

I guess us poor ole' lonely housewives really do know what we're talkin' bout concerning hair haha :P Pay attention KATE!

Jacsamic said...

Oh, Dear Katie Irene, please, please take heed of these wise words.

HappyMommyAndWife said...

Powerful, articulate, accurate. Thank you for sharing your insight...I truly wish Kate could get an "intervention" with this publicist...and a therapist...and a psychiatrist!

Anonymomma said...

justsayin', I disagree, their behavoir is a lot of times, out of control. Personally I think it's due to the fact that they are corralled together and not allowed to do things seperately (dress, play, eat, etc). But I only have five myself so what do I know.

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No-Mo-Pinkslips said...
It's interesting how everyone begins with "You must end this show." Lets be real, that's the one option that is NOT on the table. This isn't about feeding or re-imaging a splintered family of 10, it's about 500+ families making a living --> that's the trickle down reality of any semi-popular show with books, appearances, side merchandise, etc.

Same thing happened when Steve Irwin croaked ... within days "the Irwin machine" put child Bindi forward as the face person, because the Irwin industry was 500x larger than just the Irwin family itself.

So congratulations, fans and rubber neckers alike, the Gosselin industry is no different, even mid-train-wreck, those 8 kids may have gold spoons now, but before you cry for them too much, consider those other 500 families who feel fortunate with the plasticware that the Gosselin industry provides to them.

6/24/2009 5:06 PM
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Really? You think Jen Stocks felt fortunate when she witnessed acts that were 'against her moral beliefs"? You do know she quit because of what she was seeing during the production, right?

I don't care how desperate I was, if my job entailed compromising the well being of even one child, I would not do it. There is always another option.

And since you put it so eloquently, so what about the 500+ families that would be oh so thankful if Kate the nurse (and we will pretend that she is a good one for the sake of arguement) were to save the breadwinner of their family?

It could go both ways.

mom of 3 said...

Let's hope Kate reads this post and takes its advice to heart....she has 8 beautiful reasons to do it. My thoughts and prayers are with those wonderful kids.

one of eight said...

Lets get real...the kids behave that way because that is what they have grown up around. If you want your kids to show respect for one another, then show each other respect. If you want them to not hit each other, then dont hit them, or each other. If you want them to speak respectfully, then speak respectfully to them and one another. I could go on and on....

iggy726 said...

No-Mo-Pinkslips said...
... ok, one other side note, for those who think the 8 kids are in purgatory (but frankly, I'd swap places with any one of them .. I dream for a day when I have such plush daily abuse as they do)...
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I am not sure that I understand what you are saying correctly. It seems that you are speaking of the oversized television studio that they live in? If so, I have a different opinion. I see that building as large, cold, sterile, lonely ... I truly felt sad for Mady and Cara having to go back there without their siblings after NC. I thought their ETown house was warmer and cozier.

It's definitely a beautiful building on beautiful grounds, but it does not give me a warm feeling. It might be because I never saw the love there -- I'm not sure why. I only realized recently that the kids might find it lonely and "cold." I doubt that they find it plush, and if they do, I don't see "plush" giving them any comfort.

Not sure if I'm explaining myself clearly or if I understood you correctly, No-Mo.

iamsam said...

I agree with all of fostersmom's post.

It's over. It actually was over a long time ago.

When her standard communication style was to order Jon around like a servant it was over.

Jon has his faults, but I was married to a person like Kate and it eats at your soul every day. You doubt yourself. You start to wonder if you really are a blithering idiot. It's abuse pure and simple. One day you wake up and realize that you are a flawed human, but you don't deserve to be treated in that manner. And you leave.

My main concern is and has been for the children. The boys seem to have speech delays which indicates to me a lack of interaction and attention. I don't think Kate like "boys" very much.

I really do hope they socked away a lot of money while the gravy train was rolling. I hope there is a trust for the children so that Kate and Jon can't piss away what's left. I doubt it, but I can hope, right?

Kate ran this into the ground. She got mean and petty and the show with the This Old House guy was embarrassing. She was ungrateful and mean while receiving thousand and thousands of dollar of freebies. Disgusting. Then, after making a big deal of getting the dogs she told a person at a book signing that they could have the dogs. She's "a piece of work" and needs to get over herself and grow up. Her behavior is worse than her children at their worst.

It's all so sad. I hope the kids will be ok eventually.

nab219 said...

I have not submitted to this site before but want to voice my opinion of this JK8 SITUATION. I blaim TLC for creating the monster of Kate. My heart goes out to the children especially the twins at this time. I do watch the show and it has become little more than a means forTLC to earn money.
Did anyone mention how K sat in her chair displaying her boob job??

phillymom said...

Hello everyone, it's my first time posting a blog here, but, I've been following your site for months--with all this talk about Jon and Kate being separated for 2 years or not, I can't help thinking back to the show from a past Mother's Day, the one where Jon is making French Toast--does anyone recall what their bed looked like when Jon and the kids went in the bedroom, to bring her breakfast? It looked as if she slept alone, the other side of the bed was perfectly made--now one can argue that they planned that breakfast or it was filmed later in the day, but, those kids were very hungry for their breakfast..I can remember thinking..WOW, he must have fixed his side of the bed when he got up..silly me.. now I think he wasn't sleeping there, he was sleeping in the basement, and Alexis never slept down there. As for tonight, I've been writing to Ann Taylor Loft and Cole Haan Shoes asking them to end the free clothing and shoes to Katie Irene--I refuse to shop in either place until they do..and I've added that I was a loyal customer!

TN_Mamato4 said...

WOW!!!!!!!!!

I'm just speechless. I really had to read that and let the words sink it.

How true, how sad....

There's pot committed, and there's a time to fold.

Walk away now Kate, while you still have some winnings, or you will lose everything.. and I DO mean everything!

Laura said...

Very interesting comments about Kate's hair. I've been doing the base color and highlight thing to my hair for a few years and so Kate's "miscolored" sloppy hair coloring job was very easy to spot.

First of all, the chunky highlights have to go. Second, the base color in front, which is very dark, is different from the base color in front, which is a couple shades lighter. I guess money doesn't buy good taste or class. Doncha think?

Tiffany said...

I don't think there is anything Kate can do to rehabilitate her image. I have spent the last hour staring at my computer with mouth hanging open. WHY???

Because if you go to you tube and type in

jon & kate plus 8 ugly moments

you will be treated to about 20 , 4 to 9 minute clips of Queen White Chair in all her rageaholic glory. When they are all strung together like this it is more than appalling, it is horrifying. 99% of the ugly moments are guess who-Kate. When you repeatedly watch her ABUSE, yes it is ABUSE of everyone around her, it's almost unbelievable.

She slaps Jon across the face loud enough to hear the crack of her palm!
K8 threatens the kids!
K8 ignores her children and says see Daddy! Let's ignore our son who needs a Dr. for his impaction! Let me talk to my husband like a 2 year old for years on end! Watch K8 demand that Jon do everything for the kids while she shouts orders! Watch me embarrass my entire family in public time after time! The list goes on and on, lies, bullying, screaming, the works. Amusing watching if it wasn't all true.

My point? No PR in the world will help this shrew, she can't change, it is her essential personality that is rotten to the core. I don't see how even her most ardent supporters could support her when they watch those, the clips just keep on rolling. Poor Jon, it it were me I would have lost my mind and punched her in her big, foul trap many years before. She was a bitch even in season 1 and she only got worse with age. Counting up her grammar mistakes is fun though. How many words can Katie Irene make up?
She is so revoltingish. She must be a 'boy'! I can't count the times she says something heinous about"men", manhating evil Kate. It's going to be a lonely old age for her. She will never find another whipping boy to beat up like Jon.
Jon, run. Far, far away. Get custody, get your half of the money so you can provide for your kids. Believe me, you have paid with more than an ounce of flesh. Ruuuuunnnnnn!!!!

Please go watch K8's ugly moments and watch slack-jawed at how much ugliness can spew from one person. Friggin AMAZING! Kate doesn't deserve PR or advice, but hopefully she WILL get what she deserves in the end.

Lisa said...

I don't think Kate can/will stop anytime soon for the simple fact that she doesn't have anyone in her life that she trusts and respects enough to really listen to. She has no family that she talks to, no friends left, and the one person who tried to keep her in line (albeit in a passive way), her husband, is being shoved out of the picture by divorce.

I agree with the original poster: Someone is going to sue. Maybe she'll pay attention if it's her kids.

Tuesday said...

So the 8 aren't that well behaved? Think back to the amusement park trips, 4th of July parades, constant crying in that household.. crying seemed to come out of nowhere thanks to some handy editing. Well, thats one way to get your children to reinforce to the public what a tough job you have.. hit, pinch, slap, and spank your kids then the cameras turn back on and everyone can see just how hard your job is. While most moms would consider her childrens well being the most important thing in life, Kate seems to want to prove to everyone what a tough tough life she has. She encourages bad behaviour in my opinion. In her sick mind she thinks that people will somehow respect her. She is sacrificing her childrens well being for her selfish, and very sick, need for attention. Great post fostersmom but i don't care one bit about her hair, repressed memories will lead to a lifetime of pain if not addressed SOON, and yes, they both should retreat, regroup and rethink. Why do you use the word obediant instead of mutual love and respect? just curious

Anon said...

I did not read all to see if anyone caught the end of the Disney episode where she said her voice was best trait. What about HER grammar. Always on to Jon about his yet she could never say anything without sticking ness, ish, fully,...on the ends of words that have no place in the English language. I also notived her berating Jon for scratching once while guilty of the very same thing.
One other thing, although I believe Jon to be the better parent continuing to say you are in it for the kids no longer works. It may have been initial intentions, but you have been around Kate too long.

Calgary7 said...

I agree with our Hero Publicist; truly his/her clients are very fortunate to have her in their corner. My background is different (all corporate/police) so I would like to add the following minor points to the excellent submission:

1) Downsize. Fire your new LA agents and all the PR people. Stop giving interviews. Let your lawyers do what you are paying them to do.

2) Retreat to a place where you can spend time as a family outside the glare of the media spotlight to heal (perhaps in Hawaii on one of the more remote islands).

Get counselors for yourself and your children so you have someplace safe to talk and share your feelings. Let your children book appointments at will when they need to talk to someone or need help in communicating with you or Jon.

You have been pretending that everything is all right in your marriage; damage has been done to the kids. If you don't want to have addicts or adults with trust issues you need to repair the damage that you have already inflicted.

Work with your counselor to develop a new communication style, deal with your rage, and any trust, betrayal, alcohol abuse or anger management issues.

3) Learn how to co-parent. This is new and to make it work you will need to learn to communicate with Jon. At stake is your children's long term mental health.

4) Regroup after counselling and when things have cooled down, and assess whether you and your husband want to go ahead with the divorce.

5) Take stock of your future and how you want to live your life. Decide how you want to earn a living, where you want to live, what you want to learn, what your priorities are, in short, what do you want to see on your tombstone.

6) Reassess any future plans you have where you will be re-entering the media spotlight. Take a good hard look at your Q number with the other marketing data. Yes your Q is high, but, most people do not find you likable.

Translation = you are not credible. No one will want to listen to you. Viewers tuned into get a glimpse of six babies grow into toddlers and then to preschoolers.

Remember when you were in NY in December for the Proctor & Gamble promotion. It was a horrible failure. Enough said.

7) Rethink who Katie Irene is -- what are her strengths, weaknesses, in short, what do you want to do with the rest of your life.

8) Work on rebuilding the relationships in your life. People are not tissue to be discarded casually. Develop carefully and slowly your support network.

9) If your dream is still to be in front of the cameras, get some professional training. Your attempts at ad lib commentary are weak at best but most often are derogatory to the people around you. You are being seen as a bully.

10) Get your financial house in order. You have been spending like a drunken sailor on leave. It is time to start acting like an adult.


I wanted to expand our Hero Publicist's comments in the areas of Retreat, Regroup and Rethink. I can't comment on her hair or image.
Frankly, hair grows and while the current cut/colour makes her an object of ridicule for some reason she is clinging to it.

Janie said...

http://www.wwtdd.com/2009/06/you-won%e2%80%99t-believe-who%e2%80%99s-to-blame/
"...Sometimes people will ask, “What’s the one thing you’d like to change about your personality?” I don’t know if that’s true or not, but it sounds like the kind of dumb new-age shit that would be true, so let’s pretend it is. If the answer is just some thinly disguised love-letter to themselves (“I work too hard”, “I get taken advantage of because my natural instinct is to help people”) you know that person is gonna be a complete pain in the ass, because really what they’re telling you is that their only problem is that they’re too wonderful.

Hey guess what Kate Gosselin blames for the collapse of her marriage, according to this weeks People magazine cover story.

“I was operating under the belief that marriage is forever,” she tells the mag. “So I exhausted myself trying to do everything and make everything be okay, when maybe I just couldn’t.”
She says she doesn’t feel hate, though, “I don’t hate Jon. He’s lost, he’s confused. I don’t look at him 100 percent of the time with horrible anger and animosity.” ..."

ridiculousness! said...

Interesting post... I was anticipating more adept advice, coming from a qualified professional. Didn't really say anything that hasn't already been said a thousand times. I HOPE Kate wouldn't pay to have someone just tell her to change her hair - my grandma could've told her that.

And I'm sorry, but if those kids are badly behaved, I'm afraid we all might be failed parents. The tups (and Cara... it's Mady that I worry about!) are all generally congenial, good-natured polite kids who say please and thank you and SEEMED relatively well-adjusted (sadly, that could easily change now!) I'm honestly not sure if a full-blown, "typical" tantrum has ever occurred in that house. Don't all parents wish their kids would so peacefully surrender to a Time Out? Of course they bonked eachother in the head with toys.. when they were three! Besides "butt", "poop", and "weiner", I've never heard them say a bad word.I'm in NO WAY defending Kate, nooo way; but the kids I think we all have a soft spot for :)

just wondering said...

phillymom said...
now I think he wasn't sleeping there, he was sleeping in the basement, and Alexis never slept down there.

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That's exactly what I think, too.

I Don't Think She'll Listen said...

For the most part, I think the publicist's take is right on:

"End the show, take 2 years and retreat from the public eye entirely. You are too over-exposed for a “rehab tour” to ever be effective. Re-exposure will not win back any hearts..."

"You have no credibility. You will only get credibility when you earn it. Again, that means ending the show, at this point there is no suitable reason for continuing the show, the public already knows what you don’t. By continuing you do not have your children’s well being in mind..."

"Retreat, regroup, rethink."

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Look, Kate was a registered nurse, she has intelligence; being a nurse is hard work, mentally and physically! If she reads this, she has the ability to process it. But an old adage could apply: "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make her drink."

I had a fleeting thought out of the blue, and I know it's redundant to even mention it, but I like to think that most people never wanted to see a breakup of a marriage. We just wanted to see two dysfunctional parents get functional. Put their children first. Just take the money and run. Jon and Kate, you had your moment of fame but don't let it be your drug of choice.

Jimmy said...

............It looked as if she slept alone, the other side of the bed was perfectly made--now one can argue that they planned that breakfast or it was filmed later in the day, but, those kids were very hungry for their breakfast..I can remember thinking..WOW, he must have fixed his side of the bed when he got up..silly me.. now I think he wasn't sleeping there, .................

phillymom--Excellent observation!
Was that in Season 3?

grannyoftwo said...

you now what I find the craziest in all of this? The fact that Kate expects Jon to now talk this out with her. " He won't talk to me" Well, you have stiffled him for so long why should he ever want to talk to you? You verbally abuse someone for so long and it just breaks them down to the point of not even wanting to look at you or even be "in the same house with you". Do all of you really think she does not see any of this or she just does not want us to think she knows it? Someone, somewhere needs to get those children to a place where they can be taken care of by people who see reality for what it is not what they wish it to be or their form of it. Everyone can see it Kate, but you, how is that? Can everyone else be wrong? I don't think so! Bless those children! I ache for them!

ridiculousness! said...

GOD BLESS sweet aunt Jodi and sensible uncle Kevin; they are gonna end up saving these kids. The way they're talking to the media and getting the truth out there is going to prove invaluable one day, hopefully soon. I tend to not believe most of what I hear, you know how every side has their story, and in tabloid-world forget it...but I don't doubt Jodi and Kevin's testimonies for one second! If I was for the show ending before, now I'm practically about to start a crusade!

Just watched Radar and Early Show interviews, and all I can say is wow. First of all, Jodi just seems incapable of lying, period. And Kevin doesn't want to tarnish his sister's name but she's really left him no choice. And who WOULDN'T believe that Kate was being OCD-controlling and freaked when Kevin confronted her about the contract?! Kevin saying Kate doesn't even bake, cook or clean like she tries to portray... Might be the juiciest interview I've seen all year! They should just let Jodi and Kevin give weekly updates for TLC... At least then we might consistently get the truth!

Don't stop fighting for those kids... The "GOOD J&K"
;)

readerlady said...

Brava! Brava! (sound of clapping and sight of a standing O)

What sage and pointed advice. It's a shame that Kate will never see nor accept it. Kate could change her behavior if she wanted to, but unfortunately, in order to change, one must first admit that there is a need to change. Kate thinks she's perfect and everyone else needs "fixing". Therefore, no change.

"Anon" asks "What about HER grammar?" I always found it amusing, in a sad sort of way, when she corrected Jon's grammar, because most of the time he was correct and she was wrong. People keep complaining that Jon is stupid. No, he isn't. He is passive, or laid back, or phlegmatic - however you want to put it, but stupid he isn't. Unfortunately, he's unfocused and unmotivated. Lets hope that recent events provide a kick in the pants and get him on track.

Re the kids' behavior - they are poorly behaved and VERY bad-mannered. They've watched their parents' - particularly Kate's - actions and taken them on because they don't know any better. They are also over controlled and regimented, because Kate can't stand spontaneity. This causes frustration, which causes "meltdowns" because they don't know any other way to express themselves. Heaven help Kate when they get bigger. They've already learned that hitting is acceptable behavior. What will happen when Kate is the nearest object to strike out at?

Duckman said...

Great advice.

It probably won't happen, but it would be nice if somebody in Kate's ever-shrinking inner circle could get her to knock off the bashing of Jon via the media.

I don't know how divorce proceedings work, but I'm assuming that since this is a no-fault divorce, all this bashing of Jon via the media serves no purpose. If that purpose was to curry favor with the judge, it just might rile up the judge into ordering up some punitive measures for Kate instead.

I don't remember the details, but that soon-to-be ex-wife bashing her soon-to-be ex-husband in a series of YouTube videos didn't get much of a positive payback, if any, for her efforts.

Come to think of it, can't Kate get sued for slander as a result of all this public ranting? Or are both sides exempt because they're public-enough figures?

Merry/OCNJ said...

As much as I dislike Kate I can not buy into the "poor Jon" he's so abused.I believe poor Jon is totally into how much will I get out of this.They bought that million dollar home knowing quite well that they were not going to stay together.That house is a studio where they both will work...
Has anyone seen Jon out looking for work?How is he going to pay for where he is moving?There had to be a plan made by both of them as far as keeping the gravy train alive.How much money does it take to maintain a home like that each month if they don't have income that matches what they get from TLC.Can it be maintained on an IT worker and nurses salary??? Also one last thought....Does anyone know if they have home movies of when the twins were born?Did they do any documentations of their early years?I would love to see Jon&Kates interaction with one another back then?

Cheryl B said...

Kate has raised 8 mini-Kates. Not one of the children thanked the guys for the crooked houses, all they did was complain how long it was taking.

Now that the twist-tie is off the trash bag, I really wish Beth would speak out and put a end to the Kate is a author. She can't string a sentence together.

I hate to admit Iam a cigarette smoker, to hear Jons smart a** comment that he has always been a smoker. Realist reality show my #*#!

MollyP said...

Outstanding suggestions from the publicist, I do hope Kate somehow sees this and reads it over and over and over until maybe just a little sinks in. Perhaps it should have started with "FREE!!!!....."FREE!!!" maybe then Kate would take notice, that is usually the only criteria for anything she uses. This is stellar advice and if Kate was anywhere near the business person she leads us to believe she is, she would take it and attempt to salvage some kind of credibility for a "comeback" down the road.

cdnmom47 said...

Tiffany said:
I don't think there is anything Kate can do to rehabilitate her image. I have spent the last hour staring at my computer with mouth hanging open. WHY???

Because if you go to you tube and type in

jon & kate plus 8 ugly moments
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Tiffany...

A friend directed me to those videos a while back and like you I was floored. I knew that Kate had issues, but when you watch all of those 'moments' strung together one after the other, it's really almost damaging to the soul to watch. I can't imagine what it would be like to have that venom directed at me! There's no question that those children experience abuse, plain and simple.

fostersmom..very wise words and Kate would do well to listen to you...suggestion of an anger management workshop might be an idea, too.

4girlsoneboy said...

Anonymomma said...

Really? You think Jen Stocks felt fortunate when she witnessed acts that were 'against her moral beliefs"? You do know she quit because of what she was seeing during the production, right?

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Was that ever verified? I would think if that were true it would imply that she had some standard of ethics and why, if that is true, has she never come forward with some truthful statements of what has gone on behind the scenes.
The double standard here has always bothered me just like that time the cameraman filmed Mady kicking her younger sister but did nothing to stop it.

jorjahgal said...

Funny... I took my nephew to see Transformers 2 yesterday and he kept showing me who were the bad guys... they are called decepticons... of course the whole time I kept thinking DeceptiKons

BE said...

I feel part of the reason for taking a break until August is to leave the "fans" wanting for more. I think, as much as most of us do not want to see anymore episodes, lots of people watch to see what will happen next. I believe we all need to stop giving this so much attention. Some people will take negative attention over no attention at all. The only way these kids will have any peace is to make all of this a thing of the past.

QFIspinswebs said...

I have not submitted to this site before but want to voice my opinion of this JK8 SITUATION. I blaim TLC for creating the monster of Kate. My heart goes out to the children especially the twins at this time. I do watch the show and it has become little more than a means forTLC to earn money.
Did anyone mention how K sat in her chair displaying her boob job??


You don't just become a narcissist overnight. She most likely was one all all along and her personality and TLC went hand in hand with GREED. Yes, those puppies (fake boobs) were promptly displayed, Katie wants people to notice, did you notice the filthy feet? Remember her carrying on about the motel floor but yet walking barefoot at the gas-station because the rain washes the germs away was ok? Nurse Ratchet.

Pilgrim Soul said...

Personally, I feel the final episode provided "closure" for many viewers. They're getting divorced. The jig is up. Nothing else is going to be even as remotely titillating. The kids are aging up, anyway. People will lose interest by the Fall.

It's over, even if the Gosselins and TLC have yet to figure that out.

Brooke said...

Awesome letter. Dead on.

...the bit about the hair had me laughing so hard my co-workers definately know I wasnt working. thx :-P

Carrie said...

phillymom said...
now I think he wasn't sleeping there, he was sleeping in the basement, and Alexis never slept down there.
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(First time poster)...WOW...I just had a revalation. Can you imagine how many times the kids were/are threatened to NOT say anything while taping is going on. I can just hear Kate saying "You will be SEVERELY punished if you EVER mention that Daddy is sleeping in the basement". I bet they are threatened like this on a daily basis. These kids have been forever traumatized and probably don't even know what "reality" even is anymore. They are living 2 lives...1 for the camera...and 1 off camera. :(

Think about it...they are being forced to live a lie. How can they develop to be normal children when they are being switched from ON to OFF and threatened constantly on a daily basis. That would be hard for any adult, let alone a child. It is going to take years...even if counseling was started now...to undo all of the emotional abuse and threats that has been done by these parents.

I am confident that eventually the show WILL be pulled; however, the kids will probably feel that it was their fault. Even if they are not told that, Kate will be angry that her show has been taken away, and she will ultimately take out her anger on her children. I just pray that the judge will order these kids into counseling. Thanks for letting me vent! :)

Kimme said...

sorry but this person is delusional. Over-exposed media ho's like Kate go on for years milking it - look at Bravo's line up on their Housewives series.

Learn to live modestly? She never will. Her best bet is to spend all the money she can before the kids, inevitably, sue her. If she is broke, then they will get nothing.

End the show? So not likely. She is earning way too much money. For the sake of the kids, I would be satisfied if she would scale the shows back to specials, which primarily focus on her with minimal shots of the kids.

The kids will then go after the state of PA and sue them and that is where their real compensation will lie.

Saving money? Soon Jon will get his part of the money his kids MADE (while telling everyone he doesn't support the show - year right Jon).

JMO but I don't think these people have a lot of money in savings or a fall-back. I think they spend as much as they are making or close too. That is why both of them will NEVER pull the plug on this show willingly.

August_Cosby said...

Hmm, that is interesting. Aren't crisis professionals supposed to provide advice on public images? I see too much personal advice in this post to accept that a real qualified professional wrote it. As someone who works in the corporate world for a large international corporation, I see nothing in this post that anyone, celebrity or otherwise, would pay for. If my company received this advice, we wouldn't be satisfied.

I understand that people's biases come into play with Kate Gosselin since we see her dirty laundry aired daily, but that still doesn't make it acceptable to include your personal biases when providing professional advice. Perhaps the person who wrote this is more of a life coach than a PR/crisis person.

The use of the terms "meth freaks" and "train wreck" in this post made it lose credibility instantly. Just my two cents.

tallblonde said...

"You have no credibility"

No truer words were ever spoken.....

WomanMother said...

No offense to the author of this wonderul and thoughtful letter to Kate but I think we all have to accept that it is pointless to try to "reach" Kate in any way. She is blinded by her greed. Simple as that.

HOWEVER, maybe we should put forth energy into reaching TLC's President Eileen O'Neill who has admitted having NO intention of cancelling the show.

She needs to feel the heat on a massive scale. How dare this woman (is she a mother?) allow these children to be subjected to this unhealthy environment?!?!

Melissa said...

Daner said...

I can't help but think if Kate had friends or family around she would actually listen to something! Sad thing is she doesn't and she is going to lose everything due to her greed.


The thing is she did have friends and family around. I am assuming that the friends and family who had the children's best interest in mind and spoke out about it were ostracized. Kate only wants to surround herself with people who agree with her, pushing away those who truly have told her how wrong she is.

Midwest Mom said...

"justsayin' said...
The Gosselin kids don't behave any better or any worse than any other kids."

I'm not sure where you live or what your circumstances are, but the Gosselin children's behavior is not normal, nor is it acceptable.

They act out based on what they've lived: yelling, hitting, unkindness to an unbelievable degree.

Don't believe me? Show their behavior side-by-side with the Duggar children any day of the week.

wildflowers said...

The happily ever after ending would be J&K seeing the light and suddently becoming good and caring parents. Being sorry for all they had done.
But the truth is, probably the wreck will continue. Every chance they get they will bad mouth the other. Each will pour thru as much money as possible to keep the other from getting it. Neither one will ever put the children first, because after all Jon thinks he is the victim and Kate thinks she is. They have never noticed the kids needs and think they are fine. After all they have had a roof over their heads and enough to eat (well sort of). Next will come, what I'm sure, will be a parade of 'friends' to help them heal from their ordeal.
There isn't going to be a happily ever after ending for this group. There is just too much greed involved. Sorry to sound so jaded, but based on their constant behavior, there isn't going to be a big 'ta da' moment.

delilahboyd said...

Kate lies so effortlessly, yet she has no idea how poorly she lies. Watch her eyes. When people lie, their eyes look to the right and sometimes down and to the right. Also, the higher the eyebrows and the wider the eyes open, the bigger the lie.

Anyone with a theatre degree or a law enforcement background knows this stuff. It's not nanoscience.

minnow said...

i love the very detailed advice on the hair. her hair IS atrocious and would never fly in Los Angeles.

Mae said...

Pillymom-

You ARE 100% RIGHT

I believe there was a futon down there and pillows. I remember an episode where the kids were down there and some were laying on that futon... very interesting!!

Pauper Princess said...

Regarding Kate's fashion and hair tips...

...two things comes to mind...

...You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear...

...You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig.

Worth Repeating said...

It has been said before but I will state it again that the show must go on because the Gosselins are under contract, including THEIR house (which is owned by TLC), for two more years. If they quit now, they lose the house and of course, their neverending money train.

I say do it anyway! They have enough BANK to buy their own respective houses, live comfortably for the rest of their lives, send all the children to college and retire peaceably.

However, they won't! Not unless they are ordered to do so.

theirlifeisanightmare said...

I can't remember where I heard it but I heard they are worth like 10 million+.I'm not sure why there is still doubt that they wouldn't be able to afford their new digs.They could've already paid it off.

TLC Has Nothing to Do With Learning said...

HOWEVER, maybe we should put forth energy into reaching TLC's President Eileen O'Neill who has admitted having NO intention of canceling the show.

She needs to feel the heat on a massive scale. How dare this woman (is she a mother?) allow these children to be subjected to this unhealthy environment?!?!

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I worked for TLC years ago and about 4 General Managers ago but know that Eileen O'Neill has been at Discovery forever. I believe it's been her one and only employer for her entire career. Eileen is indeed a mom, with a stay-at-home partner who takes care of their (I believe) 2 children. If you'd like to contact anyone at TLC, there is a email template for everyone there, which is first name_last name@ discovery.com.

So, to reach Ms. O'Neill, it would be:
Eileen_Oneill@discovery.com
David Zaslav is the Prez of Discovery Comm.
Laurie Goldberg is the VP of PR
Tom Carr is SVP of Marketing

Those would be others to email blast.

Paige said...

That was wonderfully written! Since we can tell the network, at least, reads these boards, maybe somebody will pass it on to her.

Paige said...

Also, August said:

"Hmm, that is interesting. Aren't crisis professionals supposed to provide advice on public images? I see too much personal advice in this post to accept that a real qualified professional wrote it. As someone who works in the corporate world for a large international corporation, I see nothing in this post that anyone, celebrity or otherwise, would pay for. If my company received this advice, we wouldn't be satisfied.

I understand that people's biases come into play with Kate Gosselin since we see her dirty laundry aired daily, but that still doesn't make it acceptable to include your personal biases when providing professional advice. Perhaps the person who wrote this is more of a life coach than a PR/crisis person.

The use of the terms "meth freaks" and "train wreck" in this post made it lose credibility instantly. Just my two cents."
------------

Yeah, but she ISN'T being paid for this advice. Would you go whole hog for free? I doubt it.

Anonymous said...

We can see that with every element of Kate’s life, she is self-destructive. She is a sick person who is discovering that no matter how much she tries to push back her insecurity, nothing works. She has ruined her relationship with her family, her husband and is destroying her relationship with her children. It would not surprise me in the least to hear Kate come out and blame her childhood and claim past abuse. She has a major chip on her shoulder and until now has believed that bullying and controlling all situations has eliminated the need for her to seriously address her mental illness.

As spectators, we are naturally inclined to take sides or identify with one side over the other. In this case, they are both at fault and what they are doing to the kids is nothing short of abuse. All of their energies are focused on material possessions and any criticism is met with retorts of how they are doing this for the kids. So the kids will have designer clothes, crooked houses, and be pulled out of school regularly for vacation; and still wind up needing therapy. That is a failure and any rationalization by these failed parents is not going to change that.

Linda said...

If the one blindgossip.com item is true about Kate being caught on tape getting out of control with another one of her children - Jon's lawyer better do his job and immediately get copies of this footage to use for custody of those children.

I've said it before - Kate needs to wake up to reality and get some help for her anger and control issues - it is only going to get worse and now that Jon won't be their to be the target - it is the children who will get the brunt of it all.

markem said...

In addition to Jon (potentially) sleeping in the basement, the more I think about it, the more it's evident that they were living separate lives since the beginning in the new house.

1) Where Kate demands that the kids STAY AWAY from the master bedroom - why? because they'll ask questions about the details of your living arrangement?

2) Episode where Emeril stops by, Kate orders the children to divide into groups and use one of the bathrooms by "MY bedroom."

We get it, we know it, so stop the lying. As fostersmom notes, retreat and take care of your family. As much as I detest Kate, I sincerely hope things work out for the best for the children.

Molly said...

Not a bad post at all...HOWEVER; the comment about Pennsylvania is offensive. Last time I checked Philadelphia is a pretty large city with lots of culture...but what do I know, I went to UPENN. We are a very fashion forward city. The older Gosselin girls go to an amazing private school outside of the city that turns out MANY ivy league children each year, so to say we live "under a rock" is a fallacy. That being said, please do not let the Gosselins be an indicator of what Pennsylvania is like. Besides, I think there is bigger fish to fry that putting ANY focus on Kate's hair. I was a bit offended, not going to lie...

GAmom said...

Uh, sorry, y'all, but you've been duped. Does this sound like any advice that has ever been given to a celebrity? Has any celebrity ever ACTED on such sound, sage, honest advice? I think not. We all know that real PR people spin, duck, and cover. Great post, but so obviously not from a real, actual PR professional.

EasterApril said...

justsayin' said...

The Gosselin kids don't behave any better or any worse than any other kids.

I also respectfully disagree with this statement. I'm appalled that these siblings are so jealous of each other that they begrudged an injured sister something cold to drink to feel better. This jealousy could have been nipped in the bud quite early in their lives. I'm appalled that these children so willingly tattle on each other - where's the sibling loyalty. I'm appalled at the level of crying, whining, and complaining that goes on.

And....shame on TLC for airing such personal and heartbreaking moments in these children's lives and shame on Jon and Kate for allowing it.

fostersmom said...

Remember, I did not write this, I just posted it.

Gosslip Girl submitted it as a post thru email.

just wondering said...

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118005261.html?categoryid=14&cs=1&query=Gosselin


There are only about a dozen complaints at Variety complaining about the Gosselins. Please voice your concerns!!

blamingoftheshrew said...

If she dislikes beng stalked by the paparazzi, why then does she run around flaunting her bikini? BTW, her butt is way too gigantic to be wearing one!

http://www.popeater.com/television/article/kate-gosselin-bikini-photos/543812

Terri said...

How's this for publicity? She just can't exist if her picture isn't taken every so many days.....

http://thesuperficial.com/2009/06/kate_gosselin_in_a_bikini_1.php

DollyFinn said...

So, what can we really do about this situation....nothing, except to stop watching the TV show and stop buying the magazine's with the Gosselin's on the cover. Check and check. This drama is going to play out however Kate and Jon decided it will play out.

All that is really left is to observe what you see in the pap's pictures when you are in a place where you can't avoid them. Like the one on radar.com today of Kate in that bikini. Here are my observations:

1) Kate seems to be doing the bikini thing in the same way that princess Diannna did to get attention away from her husband. So Jon was outside signing autographed pictures this week and she ups the ante by appearing in a new 2 piece. Yes, it is brutally hot in PA today but still......

2)Today is day 3 of kate wearing a hat in public. Did she suddenly become self-conscious about her hair or did she get a really bad hair cut in Reading again. Geez, with all of that money at least drive into Philly and get a great cut.

So, they are both playing the war in a non-verbal way. What a shame they can't just let the lawyers handle everything and just go away.
BTW-Does anyone else think the blindgossip.com item (Duck, Duck truth 5) is about our favorite couple?? Oh my!!!

Jennifer D said...

I appreciate everything that was written....but I do think there is one piece that needs to be addressed. Kate needs therapy. She needs a strong female mentor. She needs to spend some time in a quiet, reflective place with no outside noise. She claims to be a Christian and I personally won't comment on that but I do think that she ought to come under the wing of a strong Christian woman who can nurture and pray with her. She needs peace so very much.

A Mother's Walk said...

I sent an email to

Eileen_Oneill@discovery.com

I urge you to do the same. If we flood their in-boxes at least we will get some attention from the fools.

BE said...

I think wearing the hat has more to do with her feelings of failure than about her hair. She's hiding.

AeroSpice said...

Anon said...
I did not read all to see if anyone caught the end of the Disney episode where she said her voice was best trait.
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I too noticed that and immediately thought, no, Kate, it's not your "voice" but the WORDS that voice is able to form (i.e. spewing lies and getting away with it, manipulation, half truths, belittling, demeaning, verbal abuse, etc.) Lying gets Kate what she wants, as long as it works, she'll continue to do it.
It's like in her statement after the divorce announcement about how she doesn't wish to discuss it at this time. Almost like her saying..but come back tomorrow and we can hash it out at the spa!

I heard an actor in an interview last week (cannot remember who it was) say:

"A GOOD parent is only as happy as their saddest child"

It gave me goosebumps when I heard this and couldn't help but think of the Gosselins. If only these parents would realize that. Sadly, they won't.

To all of those that think we are asking J&K to go back to their old jobs of nursing and IT..I, for one, am not expecting them to do that...let them both go get their own shows or marketing deals BUT LEAVE THE CHILDREN OUT OF THE PUBLIC EYE! Bottom line!

Former Child Actress said...

If this whole show has been staged then the children ARE actors and are qualified for benefits and protections.

Mom of 3 Wonderful Boys said...

I thought this letter to Kate was great, except for one part, Kate's hair. I don't really think the hair even though it is absolutely horrible needed to be mentioned. That was attacking her appearance. If the author wanted to give her some advise about her appearance perhaps she should have told Kate to cover up those skimpy bathing suits. Hair shouldn't really be an issue about her mothering or marriage. Just my opinion.

what a mess said...

What an excellent post! Honestly, I think Jon was trying to tell Kate much of this in the early years of the show. Remember the Christmastime shopping trip to Toys-R-Us? The one where Kate yelled at Jon across the store and embarassed him? In the couch interview from that episode, Jon tells Kate that she looks TERRIBLE when she acts like that. He says people stare at her and think awful things about her. Kate very skillfully avoided admitting any fault at all by saying she "just doesn't notice other people".

As many awful things as I can say about Jon, I do believe that he tried to tell Kate how badly she was coming across. She just has her head so far up her rear end that she would never see herself as "wrong".

Mark my words, she will be the VERY last person to realize that there's something terribly wrong with her actions.

abbie said...

"Children Learn What They Live", Kate. If you need evidence of that, notice when they get playhouses and are actually allowed to play and use their imagination, several of them congregate and then tell their father to be quiet because they are going into an interview...... That tells me all I need to know.

GREAT posts from the 'professionals', thank you. Backs up what some of us have been too mad to verbalize.

notafan said...

Don't believe me? Show their behavior side-by-side with the Duggar children any day of the week.

Totally non-comparable. The Gosselin kids are typical everyday kids. The Duggar kids are stuck in a cult with no chance of self expression or choice. I'll take the Gosselin kids any day.

notafan said...


I know a couple of families of 10-12 children whose children are better behaved. And none of them wear bibs past age 3.


What does a child's behavior have to do with him/her wearing a bib? The bib is totally the parents choice.

Cara Starr said...

i thought it was all well written except for the part about her hair. (i don't like her hair either but still.) Just seems to take away some credibility & seriousness from the letter as a whole, because it seems more of a catty/personal attack kind of thing, than it does meaningful life advice.

notafan said...

While we’re still talking about your image: you must change your hair. It can be gradual. First you need to use a 2 inch round metal brush in the back. I understand you like the height, but it DOES NOT LOOK GOOD. As you blow dry, use the roller brush to boost that section up, but also under. After a month of that look, have the front section softened so that it flows more gracefully towards the back.

This is ridiculous. Why anyone, especially this 'professional' cares about Kate's hair is beyond me.

it could happen said...

The author of this post, who is giving Kate advice is a professional who understands a public person's "image" in a way that most of us don't.

She is probably very good at what she does.

If she didn't think Kate's hair was an issue, she wouldn't have mentioned it. My point is, while it might sound funny it is practical advice.

My thanks to her for writing all her thoughts down. I, for one, could never have looked ahead to the future when the kids might sue their parents.

But since she (author of post)brought it up, it makes sense.

Minnow said...

in response to "notafan"s comments it got me to think what JK8's fans must be thinking right now??? I guess from my point of view i would just assume that many of them have come to realize what a sham they really are....

but then you'd be surprised at how blindly devoted they can be. Obviously no one wants a marriage to fail and reconcilliation would be ideal for the kids... but how can that happen when the show will still go on??

i'm sure we all wonder how the kids have reacted to their parents' divorce but to talk about it in a magazine interview (i think kate did in people) is mortifying for the child.

honestly, sometimes i think kate says to herself, "ok, how else can i make a quick buck? talk about my kids reactions to a extremely public divorce?? that should do it."

It is what it is said...

The person that asked why the publist commented on Kate's hair, is because that's what this professional does. Its ALL about image. The publist is an image consultant. Many celebrities have these people 'coach' them, so when they go out in public, they look all put together properly. Its not silly at all, its vital. The advice she gave Kate is advise that she is giving for free, as these consultants charge thousands of dollars to remake an image.
It starts with a physical look.

Christine said...

YES! I've said OVER and OVER cancel the show........Gosselins need to focus on their kids. 10 years ago I went through a horrific divorce. I lived in the small Community and promiant member of. My kids went through pure hell. PROTECT THEM. If Kate is really concerned about her kids she could understand the ramifications of their divorce being all over the media? Her kids are going to be approached over and over about it, at school, at activities, ect. Trust me their are many inappropriate adults who won't be able to help themselves. TLC SHAME ON YOU!!!! SHAME ON US WHO HAVE WATCHED THIS TRAIN WRECK!

Too Late For Believability said...

delilahboyd said...
Kate lies so effortlessly, yet she has no idea how poorly she lies. Watch her eyes. When people lie, their eyes look to the right and sometimes down and to the right. Also, the higher the eyebrows and the wider the eyes open, the bigger the lie.

Anyone with a theatre degree or a law enforcement background knows this stuff. It's not nanoscience.
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Interesting comment. I agree when watching her, something doesn't come over authentically; haven't been able to put my finger on it til you explained the above. There are so many things she has said that are so obviously (and so documented for posterity) red flags but, of course, one that stands out is telling the kids that they are never, ever allowed in her bedroom because she and Jon deserve some privacy after four years. All I can say to that is, ha. Right.

KC said...

The latest pic of her prancing around her "estate" in a skimpy blue bikini with her big fake boobs hanging out is (to use one of her favorite words) vile! What a horrible woman!

MORE TLC CONTACT INFO said...

TLC Has Nothing To Do With Learning: Thank you so much for this information; it makes it so easy for us to voice an opinion.

EVERYBODY, take note of this one more time from the above poster/former insider at TLC:

"If you'd like to contact anyone at TLC, there is a email template for everyone there, which is first name_last name@ discovery.com.

So, to reach Ms. O'Neill, it would be:
Eileen_Oneill@discovery.com
David Zaslav is the Prez of Discovery Comm.
Laurie Goldberg is the VP of PR
Tom Carr is SVP of Marketing

Those would be others to email blast."

(Note, she's referring to Eileen O'Neill, TLC's President.

Vicki said...

fostersmom said...
Remember, I did not write this, I just posted it.

Gosslip Girl submitted it as a post thru email.
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Hey, fostersmom...all opinions are good and even if there was 10% of this I didn't agree with, 90% I did, and I don't care if a publicist wrote it, or my next door neighbor, it had some very good points. Thanks for going to the trouble.

ToTheMoonAlice said...

I have always said that the people who blog on this site are extremely articulate and intelligent...Kate should be so lucky as to have a PR person so savvy as the one who has written here...

Lee said...

"Your children are going to sue you. Not today. Not tomorrow. But within the next decade you face the potential of 8 very aggrieved plaintiffs." Excellent turn of words.

Anyone remember the Dionne Quints of Canada and their sad story. Not done by parents but by a nation?

Kate is still riding the high of all the attention broken marriage or not - egomaniac? megalomaniac?

Also, did anyone notice at the "big announcement episode" that an no time did either of them mention "our kids" it was always "my kids"? Talk about sharing the parenting!

Help Comes In Many Forms said...

Jennifer D said...
I appreciate everything that was written....but I do think there is one piece that needs to be addressed. Kate needs therapy. She needs a strong female mentor. She needs to spend some time in a quiet, reflective place with no outside noise. She claims to be a Christian and I personally won't comment on that but I do think that she ought to come under the wing of a strong Christian woman who can nurture and pray with her. She needs peace so very much.
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Heartfelt post but, honey, she's gotta WANT it before she'll be open to it. Therapy is only good, in my experience, if you are a seeker of change and ready to peel back the layers to improve and feel better.

A kind and experienced female psychologist brought me back from a very black hole after losing too many pregnancies but it was six months of committed work on her part and mine. I credit her with saving my life after feeling like mine was worthless, meaningless and insignificant if I couldn't have a child and be a mom.

In the Gosselin household, a family counselor could be very helpful to them as they navigate the trauma of divorce. Therapy is...therapeutic!...if you turn toward it, not against it. I learned new tools to live by that sustain me ten years later every time something catastrophic happens in my life.

My concern is that Kate isn't humble enough to get help. Hurting? Who knows. Humble and open to another's opinion or expertise? I'm not convinced.

Sharon said...

I have to say this and I truely feel that this is the bottom line. Kate is a attention whore. To her negative attention is still attention. She does not care what people think of her, as long as they think of her. In her mind she is the center of the universe, and we are just bugs to be crushed. The only way kate Gosselin is going to go away is if everyone, and I mean everyone just walks away. As long as there is one person sitting in a tree holding a camera, kate will perform. As long as there are tabloids (people mag etc..), Kate will perform. As long as there are fan blogs, Kate will perform. As long as there are hate blogs, Kate will perform. Because we are continuing to feed her ego.. The only way she will go away is if we just put her in a box, close it tight, and snuff her out, and forget about her. If she comes up with her own show and no one watches, she will not have anyone to perform for. When there is no one left to perform for, then, and only then will she go away.
I am as quilty as everyone. the first thing I do when I get home is turn on my computer to find out what is going on with Kate Gosselin. I just wish there was a way to counter her article with people mag and remind everyone that Jon is not lost,he is sick of Kate. He doesn't want to talk to her because A) she will chew him up and spit him out. B) Anything he says could be used against him in a court of law.
I hate to say it but if Kate is ever going to go away, everyone has to turn their backs on her and walk away. I'm not sure how it can happen because if we go away, the fans will think they have won. And, so on down the line.

arminius said...

Wow, Michael Jackson is dead!

Who benefits: Kate Gosselin.

Just like 9/11 and Gary Condit, it is going to take something on the level of the death of Michael Jackson to finally displace the Gosselins from the tabloid headlines.

Maybe she will take advantage of the breather to repair her and her family's tattered lives. Ok, I couldn't even type that with a straight face.

abbie said...

Maybe Kate should seek counsel from Mrs. Dugger, or better yet spend about a month at the Dugger home and learn how to raise a litter of kids to be responsible adults. Jus sayin'.
I can't hardly blame all the childrens behavior on Kate, as I truly believe those children are being raised by babysitters, known as "nannies" when you have $$$$.
Kevin says she also does NOT do the cleaning, etc she would like us to believe she does, she has housekeepers, yard people, pool people (why is there never any footage of the family using that pool, anyway?) Can the kids all swim? Any responsible parent who decides a pool in the yard is a good idea better make sure their children can swim...
Finally, I live less than a hour from the Goselins home, and I often think I hope Kate Gosselins BUS doesn't break down outside my house, and she sees my obviously ICKY and GERMY home, she will surely die.
How oh how does she put up w/ all that DOG HAIR thats undoubtably around??? Or is she a dog-crate freak like one of my sister-in-laws, who keeps her dog in the crate 23 hours out of 24 (no exaggeration) with the one hour being outside...no affection, never in any family pics, etc.I doubt those dogs have EVER been inside most of the rooms in their mansion. You almost have to know someone who does that to believe its possible, IMO.
And all who think Jon is going to go up against Kate for custody, get real. He doesn't want those kids any more than she does (to raise). He is way too excited about his "new chapter" in life to be bothering with 8 kids living with him. He will do the house switch thing for awhile, but I betcha the day will come when we learn that Jon rarely sees the kids, etc.
Wait for the "tell-all's books to hemorrhage from the "staff".
(serious eyeroll here)

Feeling Sorry for the 8 Kids said...

It's ironic that someone mentioned the death of Michael Jackson because this guy was the poster child for the long-term damage that can result from being forced to perform in front of an audience at a very early age and becoming a superstar by the time he was in elementary school.

I hope that Jon & Kate will read Michael Jackson's life story, especially in his later years and learn something from it. It was obvious that Michael Jackson had a difficult time with knowing what it's like to live life as an average person given the fact that he was the center of attention from lots of people.

I hope that Michael Jackson's life story will serve as a cautionary tale and they decide to pull the plug on their reality show and get therapy for their poor kids.

Calgary7 said...

Help Comes In Many Forms said...
Jennifer D said...
Kate needs therapy. She needs a strong female mentor.
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Therapy is only good, in my experience, if you are a seeker of change and ready to peel back the layers to improve and feel better...

In the Gosselin household, a family counselor could be very helpful to them as they navigate the trauma of divorce.

Therapy is...therapeutic!...if you turn toward it, not against it. I learned new tools to live by that sustain me ten years later every time something catastrophic happens in my life.


Both of you have brought up excellent points with very powerful wording. I sincerely wish that this is rock bottom and the adults who created havoc with their children's lives are now willing to embrace the need for change. And, are willing to do the hard work.

I hope the court orders counselling. If not for the parents, then for the children.


"and the truth will set you free." John 8:32

Suzanne said...

arminius said...
Wow, Michael Jackson is dead!

Who benefits: Kate Gosselin.

Just like 9/11 and Gary Condit, it is going to take something on the level of the death of Michael Jackson to finally displace the Gosselins from the tabloid headlines.

Maybe she will take advantage of the breather to repair her and her family's tattered lives. Ok, I couldn't even type that with a straight face.

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This is REAL news. The handlers that fight so hard to keep J/K in the news will have trouble w/ this one. SO, SO ironic that the stark reality of his death juxtapose w/ the Gosselin saga puts what IS important culturally into perspective. Considering all of his artistic, philanthropic and cultural contributions (some controversial) it leaves one scratching their head as to why anything these BOZOS do makes the news. God help their children.

We need to help her climb back to the top said...

Wonder what Kate will pull out of her magic wonder bra (because she didn't have surgery, wink wink) to get back onto the top of the heap of internet news rankings and entertainment buzz. It will have to be something pretty good to get her back in everyone's faces.

Any suggestions for her?

WhoIsTheDeviserOfStratagems? said...

From Suzanne (Michael Jackson): "SO, SO ironic that the stark reality of his death juxtaposed w/ the Gosselin saga puts what IS important culturally into perspective."
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I'm tracking your wavelength about this prophetic occurrence and there's going to be much talk now on all the cable news shows tying in damaged childhoods of the Gosselin Eight and lost souls like the creative and talented Michael Jackson. Who could have predicted this?

It's all so incredibly preoccupying...layers of sad news in the past few days in the world...that I've got to move off the computer. I just can't take it anymore at the moment. I need to go watch a funny movie or something. Other people's dramas can really weigh you down.

Peace be with so many who lost loved ones in recent news.

Patty said...

Michael Jackson - "Have you seen my childhood?"

Gosselins 8 - "Have you seen our childhood?"

Yes, on TLC. Jon and Kate, stop all of these before it's too late.

stop the exploitation of kids said...

Eileen O’Neill

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/23/tlc-president-talks-about-jon-kate/

It is interesting when you google Oprah and O'Neill together. It might be why Oprah has always seemed to have catered to Kate and why she remains silent.

I don't know how to comment on a post like you guys do said...

Feeling Sorry for the 8 Kids said...
It's ironic that someone mentioned the death of Michael Jackson because this guy was the poster child for the long-term damage that can result from being forced to perform in front of an audience at a very early age and becoming a superstar by the time he was in elementary school.

I hope that Jon & Kate will read Michael Jackson's life story, especially in his later years and learn something from it. It was obvious that Michael Jackson had a difficult time with knowing what it's like to live life as an average person given the fact that he was the center of attention from lots of people.

I hope that Michael Jackson's life story will serve as a cautionary tale and they decide to pull the plug on their reality show and get therapy for their poor kids.

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I heard this on one of the shows already. Someone was talking about why he had so many problems and they said because he never had a childhood. He was performing all the time and never knew anything else. Sound familiar?

vixen said...

Maybe with the deaths of Farrah Fawcett and Michael Jackson, the Jon & Kate headlines will disappear for awhile. As everyone else has said, the "gig is up." Take your money and figure out how to invest it wisely. It may seem like a lot right now, but with two parents whose only marketable skills it the ability to massively reproduce with the aid of doctors, this lifestyle will go away quite dramatically. No more spa, trips, toys, procedures, etc.

I'm just sayin said...

justsayin' said:
The Gosselin kids don't behave any better or worse then any other kids.
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When the tups were about 2-3 years of age I did see way to many melt downs. Mady's behavior was terrible. But in light of the situation I feel terrible for all the children. Jon and Kate made such foolish decisions by having the camera film their every move.
Both Jon and Kate are very very foolish indeed!

season 5? said...

I saw the movie "The Kid" last night. Bruce Willis plays an IMAGE CONSULTANT.

Nobody in that movie will give him a break, except for the Jean Smart character at the beginning who annoys him so much that he gives her free advice.

She takes it, and becomes a success, and later, offers him the best advice of his life.

The other thing that almost made me jump off the couch is when an assistant/girlfriend dumps the Bruce Willis character for "exploiting innocent children!" (her words) when he vdieos some kids in a set-up to make a client look good!

This movie is almost ten years old, but, like the Michael Jackson news coverage, was speaking to me loud and clear last night.

konhasyoufooled said...

arminius said...

Wow, Michael Jackson is dead!

Who benefits: Kate Gosselin.

Just like 9/11 and Gary Condit, it is going to take something on the level of the death of Michael Jackson to finally displace the Gosselins from the tabloid headlines.

Maybe she will take advantage of the breather to repair her and her family's tattered lives. Ok, I couldn't even type that with a straight face.
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Mark my words, Kate will do something horrendously horrendous to make sure she is back on the tabloid front pages. It wouldn't surprise me if she is po'd about the death of Michael ahd Farrah. A very sad day in the world with their passing. R.I.P.

As for you Kate, Let this be a lesson. FAME AND WEALTH cannot by health, happiness or longevity. I bet Farrah would have gave it all up to have her precious health back and time with her FAMILY. All I can say is shame on you

MossHill said...

Calgary7 said...

Remember when you were in NY in December for the Proctor & Gamble promotion. It was a horrible failure. Enough said.

6/24/2009 10:22 PM

Does anyone have details ?

Paige said...

I just emailed Eileen:

Ms. O'Neill,

Recently, I read an article in which you said canceling "Jon and Kate Plus 8" isn't in your plan because it would be difficult to walk away from such high ratings. That may be true, and I understand that you are running a business, but there comes a point when enough is enough.

We have reached that point.

Those eight children will have a hard enough time adjusting to the situation without cameras in their faces, capturing their every tear for a national audience. You may say that the show serves as home movies for the kids, but I doubt any of them will want to watch this in the future. They will not want to watch the divorce announcement, they will not want to watch any of the awkwardness leading up to it, and they certainly will not want to watch that sham of a vow renewal in Hawaii.

Jon and Kate have made their beds and can lay in them as far as I'm concerned, but think of the children.

I am an engaged, 20-something graduate student with a combined household income of approximately $50,000 a year. My fiance and I were longtime fans of TLC, but feel disgust at how this situation has been handled. We will not be watching TLC in the future if "Jon and Kate Plus 8" remains on the air in any capacity.

Thank you for your time.

j&k+8-1+every other weekend said...

ok i don't know if this has been said yet or not, but the time line doesn't make sense. when occ was there the crocked houses were already in place. now they are trying to make us think they were just put in place when? i have noticed quite a few other things that just don't add up. maybe i watch the show closer than the average viewer idk

mimi said...

one of eight said...
Lets get real...the kids behave that way because that is what they have grown up around. If you want your kids to show respect for one another, then show each other respect. If you want them to not hit each other, then dont hit them, or each other. If you want them to speak respectfully, then speak respectfully to them and one another. I could go on and on....

***** Yes , children do LEARN what they LIVE!! These children need to start living a "real" normal life away from the cameras and public eye. They also need alot of tender loving care surrounding them, not the TLC gang that has destroyed them.

owensmomma said...

Hopefully, Kate sees this message and heeds the very professional and very sensible advice.

To quote Kate herself... "There's no going back. You can only move forward." and that means to end the show.

kornie said...

I agree with "no mo" about so many people making their living from this family- isn't it so much more sad looking back that she wouldn't let Jodi and Kevin be paid? There are many people that owe their very livelyhoods to this show, and with few exceptions (perhaps Jen Stock and some camera crew), they will keep riding the gravy train until Kate and the kids are no longer popular. I wonder if Jodi and Kevin by this time would have stopped productianon in their home and refused to participate anymore if there hadn't been the falling out.

it is what it is said...

Its ironic that Kate refused to let Kevin and Jodi get paid by TLC for being on the show, AND watching all EIGHT kids multiply times for them...yet she pays STRANGERS to watch them and be "helpers", "not a nanny", and "babysitters"
Kate ignored the fact that Kevin and Jodi
LOVED the children. Kate is one big fool, that is in total denial.

SugarFree said...

I had not thought about the part of the kids suing her. That is a very real possibility. The part where the author says that time is a magnifying glass is oh so very true.

You think Mady is a handful now? Wait till she gets angry that she has no access to the money that she helped to earn. She'll get in touch with a lawyer and watch out Kate!

CaughtYouLookin said...

Loved the tip you gave her for using 2inch round brush..LOL...by the way, GREAT article...you are so dead on about the children suing her....wow, I feel so bad for those adorable kids. They deserve so much more

dani said...

What could be more fun than watching a bully and a thug publicly castrate her husband in front of millions every week? The only responsible thing TLC could do now,would be to bring a credible marriage and family counselor on the program.It would have to be someone who could put Kate(of the perpetual scowl)in her place. Now there's a show that would get some rave reviews.Move over Kate. It's time to let someone with courtesy, charm and a little(or a lot)more personal savvy to get some of that spotlight that you've wrestled away from everyone else on that show.