Kate's Birthday Surprise - Monday, June 1

The kids have a special surprise in store for Kate's birthday and they're soliciting the help of professional baker Duff Goldman! Will Kate enjoy this tasty, messy surprise? How will Duff handle the chaos of having eight little helpers join his bakery?

30 minutes

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zoey said...

us weekly is confirming that jon was with Deanna in utah during this filming!

KaitiebugandBrayBray'smommy said...

OpenID lindahoyt said...

Wow, have any of you thought of the absolute AMAZING coincidence it was that there Kate was, BAKING her own cake---when she has said that, "Jodi is really the baker--I cook, Jodi is the baker"....anyway there she was all pitiful BAKING HER OWN BIRTHDAY CAKE--FOR THE CHILDREN!! Awwwwww. It is soooooo sad. She is abused, neglected. People are mean to her for no cause. Everyone picks on her.

But, there she is...COMPLETELY by an act of fate, baking alone her own birthday cake---when a bus drives up! A bus drives up to take her to a bakery in MARYLAND! Wow! What timing!

Turns out that the KIDS...yes the little kids; MADE ARRANGEMENTS for that bus! They aren't babies. No, they are wonder children!

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Who wear bibs!!!I guess that's their form of capes.( Remember Aaden eating ice cream)

Things that make you go Hmm said...

Has anyone heard about the ratings for last night's shows? I want to see how they drop like a rock from last week and all weeks going forward!

mrst said...

This is just wrong.

Jacsamic said...

Since I am a fan of Duff and crew I was also disappointed to learn they were involved with JK8...then, watching it seemed like AOC perhaps was not so happy about doing it.....Duffs cakes are detailed, intricate and generally quite impressive.

When I saw the cake for Kate I was stunned- sure sent a message to me- had to do it, did it, but, lady you ar nothing special....it was the most plain, not special, not impressive cake I have ever seen that show produce....also noticed the lack of interaction from Duff..his joyous personality was just missing.....he seemed to be pacing himself just to get it done...I did like how he interacted with the children and essentially had limited interaction with Kate...it certainly left me feeling he knew he had gotten himself into something he really did not want to do.....or maybe I am just deluding myself because I enjoy Duff and his crew so much....(good 'brain rest' TV)

I also think both shows were done before the truth broke and is an example of how TLC thought they could continue the fraudulent presentation of this broken family without the viewing public knowing....Jon read his lines, but, he certainly was not convincing- at least to me. Had I not already known what is really going on, I would have come away full of questions....

But, I am done. I watch TV as a 'brain rest' and this program only makes my blood boil (bad 'brain rest' TV). Thank You GWOP for being here and the astounding job you do. I will continue to read GWOP, fight for Laws to be passed to protect innocent children from reality TV exploitation, boycott their sponsors, but, I am off to find some other show to watch and 'rest my brain'....

I won't watch said...

Good job to everyone who DID NOT WATCH! We've all done a good thing for that dysfunctional family. Has anyone heard the ratings numbers from last night yet?

SkippyMom said...

If you go to the "Charm City Cakes" website - which I did for my daughter's 16th birthday - their minimum cake order is ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS. For a simple "Duff cake" - nothing spectacular. What a joke. I looked at my daughter and said "Honey, I love you - but $1K uh, no". We bought a lovely cake locally.

I stopped watching Ace of Cakes after one too many episodes of stonerville and then finding out what they actually charge. Again - a joke.

The thought of mixing these two shows is ridiculous - and nauseating at the same time. I would hate to watch Duff laughing that annoying laugh "har,har,har"[dude, lay off the weed, please?] and Kate is sure to control and complain the whole time.

There is no allure to this episode. At all.

Here is hoping the kids don't get a "contact" high from being in the same room with the folks at AofC.

BarbMae said...

I am also one of the ones who didn't watch last night but I set my DVR to tape it. But this morning before work I sat down and deleted both episodes. Just thinking about watching the charade made me sick so I just deleted. I would be curious to know how many viewers tuned in last night. If it is bad ya know TLC won't announce it. I hope it is bad and maybe TLC will learn their lesson. Happy to be Gosselin free.

sueshe said...

HiThere said...

PLEEEEEEZE!

There is NO way that Jon Gosselin went to Utah with the primary goal of helping the disabled ski.
Jon Gosselin went out there to get away from the shrew and to snowboard-period.
The whole disabled bit is nothing more than damage control from TLC.
Oh, yeah, isn't this around the time that his teacher girlfriend was seen in Utah with him?
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Could be the time of the girlfriend. But if I recall, Kate told him it was over sometime in the Nov.-Dec. time frame. IMHO... I don't think Jon would be out and about unless there was/is serious marriage problems. In fact, I believe the charade of a solid marriage would of continued to be portrayed if it wasn't for the media and their sharp shooting photography. And that is why I believe the couch interviews in the older episodes are so neutral. Then all hell broke loose.
As far as Jon snow boarding and having fun while also helping with the disabled kids, I see nothing wrong with that. In just a 22 minute show, we really don't know to what extent his true involvement was. And to be able to enjoy some time to himself with all that is going on in his personal life is warranted. Again this MHO.
A marriage collapsing, and having it played out on tv, is brutal. Especially when one spouse has had it with the cameras, and the other can't get enough of it.
I have a lot of sympathy for JON, can't you tell?

Still Shivering said...

My oh my, watching Kate's layers peeling away is almost too much to handle. It is so chilling and seems to me that I am watching someone possessed by something very evil. She has no love for her kids that I can see, nope it's all about her. She is so in luv with her stardom and she gives me the chills. I'm still shivering from it. Those book tours and speaking engagements created an ugly monster.

K8tr said...

K8ter- All I know is that Salt N Peppa called from the 90's and they want their hairstyle back... Seriously how trailer is that haircut and those white wedge sandals she wears all the time. She should be nicer to Jon because he's the only one without enough self esteem to be around when she's an orange leather handbag at 80 years old...

EndThisJokeofaShow said...

TandLMommy28 said...
I went to Charm City Cakes site. The MINIMUM cost of a cake is ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS. How on earth can ANYONE justify a thousand dollar birthday cake? I do not care how much money you have, spending that much on a cake is... disgusting. THere is no justification. (Maybe, maybe, MAYBE a wedding cake but not a birthday cake). Buy a $1.00 cake mix at Kroger and donate the other $999 to a homeless shelter or soup kitchen. Disgusting.
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Amen and AMEN again... you said exactly what I was thinking. My mouth fell open when I read these cakes start at $1000 and go UP from there.
For $1000+ I guess that lemon cake better be good!
I could feed my family of 4 for two months on $1000!
What a joke.

Ugly Kate Cake said...

LOL at the cake Duff made for Kate! OMG it was the plainest thing I've ever seen, and surely told Kate this.....Listen lady you are nothing special at all, and it's not all about you girl! Nope, you are not all that. Hahahaha

arminius said...

A lot is being made about the cost of Ace of Cakes cakes, like it is some sort of crime, or the cakes are coated in gold leaf, caviar and black truffles.

It is simply a matter of supply and demand. These guys are now the most internationally famous cake bakery in the world, deservedly or not (I think they are quite good myself, especially when one considers the haphazard way the staff came together). At the same time, they remain a relatively small shop with a relatively small staff, not really capable of global scale operations.

When lots of people want X and there is a very limited supply of X, you have two choices to deal with the demand. 1. Queue, and 2. Price. Queue doesn't work very well for a cake shop, since one doesn't normally order cakes 3-5years in advance (and if their prices were lower their queue would be at least that long). The only way to keep the cake orders down to a doable level is to have a very, very high price that drives away all but the most serious customers. Otherwise they would simply drown....

just wondering said...

While sitting on the couch, K8 made the comment that upon meeting the Charm City Cakes crew that she "apologized for acting like a fan" (Cause we all know how annoying fans are, right K8?)

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Man, that little statement was sooooo telling! Kate is completely revolted by her fans!

Maude said...

Jon's trip to Utah "just happened" to fall on Kate's birthday. What, you couldn't juggle your busy schedule? Only time you get off from work, studying to take the bar exam, building a new school in Africa? Give us a f#*%ing break! What husband plans to be away on his wife's birthday! They were seperated even then.


The photo in this weeks US shows J&K and 4 of the kids with his new motorcycle.
All I could think was, "Jethro and Ellie Mae - the Next Generation".


Remember what Roseanne Barr used to say in her old stand up show?
"I'm your worst nightmare. White trash with money".


History does repeat itself, doesn't it?

just wondering said...

Limerent said...
I've posted this question before, but here goes:

Kate wasn't wearing her solitaire diamond necklace in these two episodes, which were filmed between March and April. She started wearing it recently, noticeable in some of the recent pap pictures, and it appeared in the Season 5 premiere.

I wonder if it is from Jon (as apology for the mess), or did she buy it for herself? Indulge me, I'm just very curious!
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I believe you are speaking of the one from her sister Christen Largent. She designs and creates jewelry.

WPA said...

If Kate still talked to her family and in-laws, someone would have made a cake for her and she could have donated the $1000 x 11 cake fees to a charity.

I agree with another poster - the scenes in Utah were probably made at another time, like when he went with Cara. Seems like too much snow for March.

He didn't help much - he "toured" the ski building, rode up the ski lift with the kid and helper, then snowboarded in front or behind them.

I read on another website that the play set was put together by a crew of people and Jon came in at the end. TLC showed 6 people help him turn it upright. He wasn't prepared 'cause his drill battery went dead.

I recall he tried to dismantle the thing at the old house and couldn't because the bolts couldn't be removed.

I also found it unusual that she was in sweats in the kitchen then changed into the pink cami and tight pants. And she said she had to get the kids ready ASAP! She got herself ready while her kids had on the same warm clothes and got on their own shoes.

Kte also said that Cara, Maddy, Jon and the TLC crew knew about the surprise but didn't tell her. Not believable.

littleangelkisses said...

I forgot something I noticed last night:

Did you hear Kate say "the bus that transports us was out there"

So they don't even DRIVE to most of the places? JEESH, must be nice to have all of the arrangements of everyday life made for you!

"Everyday People" my eye!

ToTheMoonAlice said...

tallblonde said...
flowergirl said "She'd make a great substitute for ipecac syrup."
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GIRL! ANOTHER product !!!!!!!

IpeKate syrup....!!!! **LOL**

That is too, too funny, girl!

littleangelkisses said...

You know, I think a bit much is being made of the cost of the cakes too...I don't begrudge Duff and his crew from charging that much. Would I be able to afford it? NO, but they ARE amazing cakes and because of the show, the demand is really high.

Now, I think it's silly to assume that the kids just "arranged" the whole thing. Yeah...not so much. At least admit that.

WTFKate said...

Proud to say I did not watch and I will continue to not watch!

I did see the previews though - Kate, if you're reading this my birthday was Sunday and my momma made me a birthday cake from scratch. Because we still talk and love each other. And if she couldn't for some reason, I'm sure my loving husband would give it his best shot. Because we still talk and love each other. Or my dad, or my siblings, or my in-laws. Because we still talk and we love each other.

Just sayin.

I feel so sorry for those children. My mom had a mother who was very self-centered, judgemental, and controlling; it still hurts her after all these years.

B'more Gal said...

Well, I'm happy to say that after months of reading GWOP, I've finally become one of the many who have stopped watching J&K! It was difficult not to turn it on last night (especially since I live right around Charm City Cakes, and love seeing my hometown on TV), but after seeing how many of you do it every week, I knew I could handle it.

I do have to say one thing, from what I've heard about Duff from those who have met him, it seems he and Kate seem to share the "As long as I'm getting paid, who cares about anything/anybody else" mentality. Very sad to see two extremely greedy people in the same episode. Good thing I didn't have to see it!

SkippyMom said...

I didn't watch - I try not to - it is just not worth it.

However, did someone mention that Kate said the twins were "fans of AofC"?

How could that be? I thought they didn't watch TV.

And did Kate really say "I guess I CAN have my cake and eat it too?"

That statement is a "rainbow vomitting" all over my day. This woman is so delusional as to not be real.

Sick.

IH8K8 said...

I didn't watch--previews were enough to make me throw up in my a little. Just sent my "Dear John" email to Duff and the crew.

MelissaLG said...

As far as Jon snow boarding and having fun while also helping with the disabled kids, I see nothing wrong with that. In just a 22 minute show, we really don't know to what extent his true involvement was. And to be able to enjoy some time to himself with all that is going on in his personal life is warranted. Again this MHO.

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I agree.

I did not watch.

But I don't have a problem with Jon doing something he enjoys, and at the same time helping disabled children. (BTW - Have we ever seen Kate do something like this? Hmmmmmmmm....I will have to think about that.)


Jon has his flaws (don't we all) but he seems like a decent person, who loves his kids, has INFINITE patience with difficult people, and is just doing the best he can.

BTW -- I think Kate forced him into this season by signing the TLC contract against his wishes. He made is clear that he was NOT interested in doing the show anymore last season.

And because she is legally entitled to sign the contract, and they are HER kids too, he cannot simply withdraw his children from the show unilaterally. He will need a court order. And that could take YEARS. In the meantime, the show would go on, without him. Can you imagine how the harm to those poor children if Jon had the typical non-custodial limited access to them, and it was "not nanny" and controlling Kate 24/7? OMG.

So, to protect the children, to preserve what little childhood they have left, he is participating, until he can legally do otherwise.

And so what if his "friend" was there with him. The marriage was over. Kate isn't even pretending to be a victim, so why paint her as one? Kate is moving on -- her interviews make it clear .

I suppose if we called Jon's girlfriend his bodyguard or personal assistant it would be ok in Kateville right?

just wondering said...

Yes, this is the weekend that Jon went to Utah and had Deanna and her best friend fly out. They were there for skiing, drinking, and a concert.

The "giving back" part of the episode could have been filmed last year for all we know.

Anyone want to call the lodge and ask when the filming was done?

SaNdY said...

Cancelthisshow said...
Wow, Matt Lauer and a psychologist were talking on the today show, about the kids. Matt totally thinks the kids are being harmed. They also showed clips of Paul Peterson trying to protect the kids.
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ITA, both did an excellent job of stating the facts and the psychologist was right on with what she said about the kids and the effects of doing this show (that they will have resentment, entitlement issues, etc)...and kudos to Paul Petersen, too! Watch it if you haven't yet, it is very good...

KiSSy said...

Ms.Peach And am I correct about this, that the kids planned the surprise trip for Kate? Did Aaden pick up the phone and reserve the bus? C'mon!


It was stated during the episode that Cara and Mady set it up with the help of the crew.

However, Kate's false surprise at the van in her driveway was just nuts. Rather than going outside and asking, she questions the kids including Cara and Mady...why all the rigmarole? Kate's normal MO would have her marching right outside and demanding answers. Very out of character for her to make such an ordeal out of uncovering the answer.

Anonymous said...

As of the 100th episode, the Gosselins will have made between 5 and 7.5 MILLION dollars, on the show alone. That does not count the book profits, or personal appearances or love offerings.

Just assume that they have made $75000 per episode for 100 episodes. They may have been paid less, but this is the reported figure. And if we do not add in the other sources of income, and work merely with this figure, we should get a round about idea what the kids should have.

They should not have any mortgage payments. Both houses should be paid for.

They have earned approx 7.5 million from the show.

Deduct the 1.3 million that the new mansion cost. Deduct the 280,000. that their old house cost them, and you have $5,920,000. left. FIVE MILLION left over after all the homes are paid for.

If you divide that evenly between all the members of that family, that is $740,000 each.

Those kids should each have at least that amount put aside, in the bank for them. But, they all should also have a stake in the mansion. Those kids paid for that mansion just as surely as the parents did. When it is sold, even if they are grown, they should be able to share in the profit from it's sale.

These kids really need someone looking out for their financial interests.

Slavery has been outlawed in this nation. A person cannot be forced to give their paycheck to another person; even if they are related to them!

Paige said...

I did see a few minutes of the cake/skiing episode. Who does Kate expect us to believe planned that little adventure? "Golly, I have NO IDEA where we're going! Why is the bus here?"

Shut up, Kate.

happyblogger said...

Wow, have any of you thought of the absolute AMAZING coincidence it was that there Kate was, BAKING her own cake---when she has said that, "Jodi is really the baker--I cook, Jodi is the baker"....anyway there she was all pitiful BAKING HER OWN BIRTHDAY CAKE--FOR THE CHILDREN!! Awwwwww. It is soooooo sad. She is abused, neglected. People are mean to her for no cause. Everyone picks on her.
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I didn't watch the show but...

Has it already been mentioned that Jodi and Kate actually share the same birthday?

How much do you want to bet that Kate was taking another shot at Jodi with her comments about always baking her own cake? Just like when she repeatedly said that the kids were tired of going to Aunt Jodi's house.

Maybe Jodi used to bake the cake and they would celebrate together?

Dee said...

Ugly Kate Cake said...
LOL at the cake Duff made for Kate! OMG it was the plainest thing I've ever seen, and surely told Kate this.....Listen lady you are nothing special at all, and it's not all about you girl! Nope, you are not all that. Hahahaha
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I thought the same thing. I was annoyed with CCC for getting involved in this - but the not-great-looking cake for Kate, and the fun the kids really seem to have, kind of tempers that annoyance. Also had to laugh - you could see as the kids' cakes were getting more colorful with mounds of messy icing, Kate was getting more freaked out but trying to hold it under control. Plus, all that sugar - I'm sure the kids were bouncing off the walls later in the day.

Anonymous said...

I DIDNT WATCH!!!

I am so proud of myself to.
Ok, maybe I did flip to TLC and watched 2 minutes before a commercial but hey its a start. Its a good start. My husband didnt think I could do it.

Its hard though. I've said it before its like trying not to rubber neck when you see a cop pull somebody over on the side of the road.

The only part I saw was when Alexis fell and cut her lip. I was kinda surprised about the comment Kate made about not calling cause no news is good news. If I was away from my kids I would want to know everything thats going on and would expect a few phone calls a day. Kate really is a peice of work I swear!

Kendall said...

I am confused; I know there is editing going on, but is there editing to the extent that Jon was apparently skiing in Utah with lots of same while at the same time, Kate was going into the cake place sleeveless? Come on, same season?? I know they have snow in the mountains late in the season, but to me it looked like the Utah session was just stuck in there to elicit pity for poor Kate, whose husband was away on her birthday. Any thoughts?

ruthy said...

I didn't watch the episode. Was this supposed to be when Jon was here (I live in Utah) with Cara?

He was here in January and Kate's birthday is in March.

Could someone please clarify this for me!

Pragmatist said...

I am SOOOOO done with this sickening excuse for a "reality" show.

$1,000 cakes? One for each kid? Does anyone think those creations even made it into the Gosselin mansion?


Patsie said: This show has become about a wealthy, spoiled, arrogant family with luxury autos, trips to park city, san diego, and bald head island, childcare staff, personal assistants, bodyguards, manicures, pedicures, designer clothes, etc... how is this interesting or inspiring anymore?"

I couldn't agree more. It is so false, so disgusting and aside from the darling kids, built around the most self-centered, unattractive parents I've ever seen.

How does TLC and those big phonies Jon and Kate get away with it week after week? I see nothing redeeming in any of it -- just a bunch of boring, scripted, repetitiously, off-putting, lying shows that are edited according to the latest sharp-eyed comments appearing on GWOP.

I hope they've save up lots of those millions they've earned on the backs of their kids. They're going to need them.

Ms.Peach said...

A source confirmed to Us Weekly Jon and Deanna were together at a Spring Gruv party at The Canyon in Utah on Kate's March 28 birthday

Mother of Two(couldn't afford more...) said...

It's sad. Even when Kate in is the midst of a group of people, she seems all alone. No one wanted to be with Kate on her birthday. No one wanted to make Kate a birthday cake. The only people in attendance were those that had to be: the production crew and bodyguard (because they're paid to be there) and the 8 children(because, as in everything else, they have no choice, they have to be there, even though, unlike the adults, they are NOT getting paid). The saddest birthday ever.....down to riding in the friggin Partridge Family mega-bus (only minus the 60's psychodelic painting on the bus)....paging Danny Bonaduce....paging Danny Bonaduce....still waiting for him to weigh in on this travesty.....

Ms.Peach said...

KiSSy said...
Ms.Peach And am I correct about this, that the kids planned the surprise trip for Kate? Did Aaden pick up the phone and reserve the bus? C'mon!

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Just a joke. TLC wants us to believe that those kids knew about the cake place.

WomanMother said...

I didn't watch because the novelty wore off and I (honestly)wasn't interested. I hope more people don't watch for the same reason because they just don't want to not because they are trying to fight the urge. This is what's needed to pull the plug on this show.

I thought something would happen by now with regard to the cancellation of the show in light of the investigations and bad press but I'm not so sure anymore.

I am SICKENED (this is why I couldn't stomach watching) by the fact that it is beyond obvious these two are still enjoying all the freebies and lifestyle and will always while most of us are struggling financially. (Husband just got laid off and we can't even put the kids in summer camp) This is what makes me sick, not people who are well off, I fully respect any wealthy person who earns their income but not these horrible people. I'm ashamed I even enjoyed the first season.

I'm a little peeved at the moment that the powers that be could be so heartless when it comes to doing what's right for these children.

Jon minus Kate/why r they still 2gether? said...

Why do we always see the family driving their van- then suddenly on
this episode there is a large very
expensive bus that Kate calls "our
bus"- is here-
Where does this bus come from??

Jill said...

littleangelkisses said...

I haven't read all of the comments, but I wanted to comment on a few things.
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Did you notice the comment at the end? "I guess I can have my cake and eat it too"

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I did not watch and probably never will watch anything relating to TLC again.
I can't believe the previous comment though. Did Kate really say that. If so, sounds like TLC and Kate Greedlin are throwing it in the viewers face that they will continue the show and Kate Greedlin along with TLC will continue to profit from these kids.
People argue that this is a scripted show and not reality. Of course it is scripted; TLC makes the decision as to what will air and what will be left on the editing room floor.
I am flabbergasted that TLC would allow a comment (especially from Kate Gosselin knowing how the viewers feel about her) about 'having my cake and eating it too' to air.
Not only is Kate Gosselin cocky and arrogant, TLC seems to be as well. Not very good for PR if you ask me.
I wonder how many Christian organizations have asked her to speak since the real Kate has been exposed ?
Does anyone know if she is still promoting her book ?

I HATE EVERYBODY! said...

I think Katie-Poo should be one of those "forever grateful, never ever ever say a remotely critical word about anyone, EVER people, and she really needs to stop acting like she's above everyone else. When she gave that interview to People Magazine throwing her own hubby under the bus....priceless. [Wonder how much People paid her to say bad things about Jon?].

That cake surprise stunt that TLC pulled together was a joke. Just another opportunity for Katie-Poo to act totally unprofessional and self-absorbed. Then again, the entire show is all about Katie-Poo now with the kids as back drops.

The shooting of the show sounds a bit nightmarish, so I really feel for the poor crew members who have to put up with the parents' egos.

I have a really hard time "liking" this show. Although I do think the kids are cute.

Bottom line ... Watched an hour of the show and I HATED IT!

ProtectTheKids said...

B'more Gal said...
I do have to say one thing, from what I've heard about Duff from those who have met him, it seems he and Kate seem to share the "As long as I'm getting paid, who cares about anything/anybody else" mentality. Very sad to see two extremely greedy people in the same episode.

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Maybe so, but there’s a bit of a difference here. Duff is a talented adult employing other talented adults. Kate is an untalented adult making money off of her minor children.

That Bus is With Us said...

Hi, Did not watch the episode. But in reference to "the bus that transports us"...Does anyone else remember in some of the paparazzi pics of the Gosselin's mini mansion that bus being in the background of the pics on several occasions? Do you think they own it and have a special driver who comes to transport them on filming days?

Anonymous said...

You can not tell me that the production crew of this "reality" show did not know that Jon had a girlfriend with him in Utah.

They also are quite aware of Kate and Steve Neild's relationship.

And they are calling all of US liars?

They are not only spitting in the face of their fans by continuing these lies...they are spitting in the face of God, to whom they made many vows.

One day the truth WILL come out. They will be discredited and exposed.

But, TLC and the production company will also be discredited. The security agency...is already discredited. No one seems to be thinking about the long run. Those kids will have excellent grounds to sue the network, sue their parents, sue the production company.

It would be best for the professionals to come clean. To expose the fraud, expose the child abuse, and their own wrong doing in breaking the child labor laws. This way, they have a good chance to KEEP the money that they have made off the Gosselins. As it is now, if they don't stop, they will soon see their profits gobbled up in legal fees.

If I was them, I would wash my hands of the Gosselins. Say, "good bye and good luck"....then apologise to the kids, and turn over all tapes to the authorities.

KellyFromIL said...

Just wanted to say that I have not watched any episodes this season & couldnt be happier about it. Truthfully, I don't think I could stomach watching Kate & her spew of lies. Looking forward to the recap.

Anonymous said...

Kendall, the apparent differing climates can be attributed to the fact that Jon and Kate were in different parts of the country. The weather is vastly colder in the mountains of Utah, than in Pennsylvania. It is amazing how differing our climates are, across America.

We know from tabloid reports that indeed Jon and his girlfriend were in Utah on Kate's birthday.

What is incredible, is that the Jon and Kate were together, in Los Angeles, at Mr. Chows, a few days earlier.

Why wasn't THAT trip in an episode?! Wouldn't that be a big event that should be documented? Two poor parents that never get out, having dinner at an exclusive resturant---FOR THE CHILDREN---but, without the children.

They should have gotten that documented for their scrapbook.

marypoppins said...

SkippyMom said...
If you go to the "Charm City Cakes" website - which I did for my daughter's 16th birthday - their minimum cake order is ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS. For a simple "Duff cake" - nothing spectacular. What a joke. I looked at my daughter and said "Honey, I love you - but $1K uh, no". We bought a lovely cake locally.
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I used to watch that show and enjoyed it a bit. I will not pay 1000 for a cake sorry. They are talented and skilled.

I dont think ive ever had fondant- is it tasty and sweet like frsoting or icing?

Also, anyone wonder about eating something that several people touched/handled and spoke over and was delivered in an open box?

Anonymous said...

Oh, and the incredible thing was....while their parents were in Los Angeles, eating at Mr. Chows...they kids were home all alone!!! Cuz, we know that they "DO NOT HAVE A NANNY!"

So, now we know, that while their parents were away, those little devils planned this whole birthday party for their Mom!

Cara and Mady certainly have learned to be responsible, haven't they? They took care of their six siblings AND arranged for a birthday surprize in Baltimore for their Mom! Wow. Amazing.

marypoppins said...

zoey said...
us weekly is confirming that jon was with Deanna in utah during this filming
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i guess he's off with his new life, she's out with her "career", and they take turns being home in order to film with the kids.

The show goes on and all parties make lots of money and everyone is happy.

Full time nanny and
PART TIME PARENTS

and The Bus said...

They said in one episode when they used it to go to NYC that they rent the bus for some of their trips that are not too far. Because it is easier then flying and they don't have to worry about parking.

I doubt they purchased it. You would have to use it almost daily to make the purchase price advantageous over the rental price. But as the kids get bigger and it gets crowded in the van...who knows?

That Bus is With Us said...

and The Bus said...
They said in one episode when they used it to go to NYC that they rent the bus for some of their trips that are not too far. Because it is easier then flying and they don't have to worry about parking.

I doubt they purchased it. You would have to use it almost daily to make the purchase price advantageous over the rental price. But as the kids get bigger and it gets crowded in the van...who knows?


I never would believe for a second that the Gosselins actually PAID for a bus, maybe more of demanded it on a wishlist from TLC???

mom-of-one said...

For the bus/van thing, the tups would still be in car seats or boosters so do they have a bus with carseats and then their own van with another set or does Khate move the car seats from van to bus depending on who is driving? hahhaah, I crack myself up.

I guess my TV color needs to be adjusted. I always thought their ugly van was purple, not black. Or did they get another free one in recent years that I missed?

Maybe the 50 camera lights made it look purple, hahah.

Penni said...

Jon just happened to be out of town on March 28 for Kate's Birthday. Jon's Birthday is April 1st (yeah, I get the joke) and it's more likely that Jon wanted to be out of town for Jon's Birthday. What with the Deanna sightings and all.

eastsider said...

I have a couple questions about this episode.

I thought Jon's father was a dentist. John said that his father operated on children with disabilities. Did anyone else catch this or did I not hear right?

I am pretty sure Kate did not let the kids eat their cakes. I am sure she threw them out when they got back home, if they even made it that far.

Kate -- you may think it is cute when you use your made up words...You are not...you just sound really stupid.

the bus again said...

mom-of-one said...
For the bus/van thing, the tups would still be in car seats or boosters so do they have a bus with carseats and then their own van with another set or does Khate move the car seats from van to bus depending on who is driving? hahhaah, I crack myself up



Car seat laws do not apply to buses, at least in PA. The don't even have seat belts. In the episode where they went to NYC in that bus, none of the kids were in car seats.

And you are right, I used the term "rent" loosely, just to differentiate from "ownership". I'm sure TLC paid the rental, not J/K

Lost in Translation said...

I would LOVE for Gene Simmons to have to deal with her for a day. Even a playmate like Shannon shows some modesty on her show with her kids...And, a hellova better mother.

PhillyHockeyMom said...

Jon minus Kate/Why r they still 2gether? said...
I feel so good that I didn't watch tonight!- I went on a date with my husband- (Elton John/Billy Joel
concert!!!!)

How was the show? I have tickets for July 29th in Philly and cannot wait!

I passed by both episodes myself tonight. This show lost it's charm for me after season 3 when Jon stopped working and e-mailed from a closet, the trips, the freebe's etc etc. They were no longer a struggling "average" family. I would peek it at repeats if I was changing channels, just didn't watch on Mondays. Both of these episodes just sound like far to much Kate for me. Sounds like the whole Mr Gray tagging along should change the the title to Kate plus Eight and her Date.

M said...

Just out of curiosity, does anyone have a list of Kate's upcoming speaking engagements. I'm just wondering if all of the bad publicity has put a damper on her upcoming engagements.

I would certainly think that the churches would not want Ms Kate to appear based on the bad public image she is acquiring.

Josie said...

Jacsamic said...

Since I am a fan of Duff and crew I was also disappointed to learn they were involved with JK8...then, watching it seemed like AOC perhaps was not so happy about doing it.....Duffs cakes are detailed, intricate and generally quite impressive.

When I saw the cake for Kate I was stunned- sure sent a message to me- had to do it, did it, but, lady you ar nothing special....it was the most plain, not special, not impressive cake I have ever seen that show produce....also noticed the lack of interaction from Duff..his joyous personality was just missing.....he seemed to be pacing himself just to get it done...I did like how he interacted with the children and essentially had limited interaction with Kate...it certainly left me feeling he knew he had gotten himself into something he really did not want to do.....or maybe I am just deluding myself because I enjoy Duff and his crew so much....(good 'brain rest' TV)

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well I think we all know Duff is a big fan of make it bigger, make it badder and make it FUN and MESSY and HAVE A GOOD TIME..I didn't watch but from what I heard it appeared Duff tried to have a good time with the kids but that he looked VERY UNCOMFORTABLE...I don't think Duff and OCD get along

realmommyof5 said...

not sure if this has already been posted, but did anyone notice at the end of this episode when everyone is taking a picture, the camera shows the photographer and behind him is Mr Gray , but they blur his face out....so Kate didnt spend her bday alone!

goldengirl said...

Maybe Jon's going to move to Utah and be a ski instructor.

just me said...

Why was Kate complaining at the end of the episode about the kids getting horrifically dirty again while decorating making all of her snorting and piggy sounds? They didn't look at all messy to me? I never saw any evidence of frosting and cake up to their elbows. And I'm sure she watches Ace of Cakes all the time too!

Jacamic said...

This is posted upstream...I like the idea, if I were still watching, of the Where's Steve game....now that they realize they need to hide him- but none of the other staff or body guards!!!!!

Jacsamic said...
When Kate got off the bus and was walking in I could not help but notice the hot pink heels to match the hot pink silk top she was wearing....thinking....pretty dressed up to participate in a surprise with the children and supposedly not knowing where she was going... and even if she did....just not what a Mom of eight would wear on an outing by herself with that many children....sighed to myself...o well I am thinking....she's really just about herself and her presentation....Then....minute 28 came about....
..... minute 28 when Duff magically made the children stop yelling, Mr. Gray came around a corner from the back....completely visible...at minute 29 Mr. Gray was in the frame with his head blurred out and again at minute 30 her Mr. Gray was in the frame with his head blurred out...
Oh, I think to myself...there you go... she is dressing for....yck.

st-opthemadness said...

anyone notice they blurred out Mr Grey when they were taking the photograph of the group at the cake place....he was standing behind the photographer and they blurred him out. Why?

Daner said...

HAHAHA!


Octuplets mom to Kate Gosselin: stop judging meSouthern California's "octomom" says fellow multi-mother Kate Gosselin shouldn't judge her.


In a video Tuesday on the Web site www.radaronline.com, Nadya Suleman calls Gosselin "histrionic" and scoffs at her concerns that Suleman might find it hard to care for eight new kids and the six she already had.

Suleman says 10 people a week help her and calls the kids "extremely healthy, strong and happy."

Suleman commented on remarks Gosselin made in February on the "Dr. Phil" show.

She replied: 'Don't you have, like, a lot of issues in your life? A lot of marital problems? ... Why are you so desperate to glom onto my life?"

Gosselin and her husband have a hit cable show, "Jon & Kate Plus 8," but have conceded they have marital troubles.

Ms.Peach said...

Very odd that TLC was so quick to announce the blockbuster ratings from the premiere last week. Any news on what it was last night? I'm not hearing from TLC.

ruthy said...

It's all coming together now.

I live in Utah. My husband's work buddy sat across from Jon on a flight from CA to Utah in March (he told my husband Jon was chugging down the drinks the entire flight).

Jon must have flown straight from CA to Utah. While in CA he purchased the purse for Deanna and gave it to her while she was here with him.

littleangelkisses said...

Eastsider: I caught that too, about Jon's dad operating. I actually rewound it to listen. I wonder if his dad did oral surgery and did it for free for disabled children. I was actually thinking that Jon sounded very genuine when talking about the ski experience. It made me like him a little more. It makes me think he could have been a decent guy if he hadn't made such poor decisions earlier in his life. I think he deep down realizes now what a mistake he's made. I also think he does love the kids a lot and just doesn't know what to do about the whole thing.

maggie1 said...

A couple of things---the person who mentioned on this blog-- about not knowing the Gosselin's were Christians---in the older episodes they allude to it. When their book "Multiple Blessings" first came out--it was in the religious section of Borders Bookstore. Also, Kate promoted the book on Pat Robertsons
Christian show. She does not seem like a true Christian to me. The second thing--Kate's birthday is in March. Why are they celebrating it now? I thought they started filming for this season a month ago.

Cherier1 said...

Somebody describe the cake to me please. I read that it was plain pink??? Is that it? That's all Duff the Cake Master did for Her Royal Lowness??

Details please!

GrammyPie said...

I was very fortunate and blessed to be born on my mother's birthday. For my entire childhood,she made the birthday all about me. She always said I was the best birthday present she ever received. As I grew older, I realized this and insisted we "share" our birthday. We spent every birthday, but one together. I was in Ireland on vacation one year, but called her (6:00am her time) to wish her a happy birthday. We both cried. We even spent her last couple of birthdays together when she was in the nursing home. I miss her terribly, but know she is in Heaven.
I wish Kate could be one tenth the loving mother I had.

SheepleNoMore said...

I want to thank the moderators of GWoP and all the commentators. I am a sheeple who did not want to see the farce of J&K8 till I was forced to in the trainwreck episode last week. Because of the great work of GWoP I knew that this week was going to be an old taping and I wasn't even curious last night.

I know I'm just one viewer, but my eyes are open now to the exploitation of those 8 adorable kids and b/c of the GWoP community, I can stop participating in the farce.

Keep up the good work GWoP and I'll keep up the boycott.

blmangopit said...

I watched but not in the ratings time slot. I watched the rerun just so it wouldn't get counted. I hate that Kate's birthday is the day after my son's birthday. Ugh, I can't stand her. I was hoping to see some redemption in Jon but no. There's no hope for either of them.

bcsurvivor2001 said...

Yup - it was a 3 layer pink cake. Period. Each layer had writing on it. From memory it sayd Happy Birthday Kate - or something like that

Was VERY surprised at the simplicity of it - more like a pink fondent 3 layer plain wedding cake - not a BD cake for a mom and 8 kids - hehehe

Arieslikekate said...

aren't there any bakeries in PA?

Arieslikekate said...

imagine that... a bus... pulling up.....

Arieslikekate said...

good one, K8tr!

Sad stuff.... said...

I dvr'd the show last night and started watching it this morning. My two small children were playing in the same room and my daughter (who is only 3) asked me when it was just Kate at home with the kids, "Where's their Daddy?" she asked this two or three times during the first few minutes, then when it showed Jon home with the kids she was asking continuously "Where's there Mommy?" To my knowledge my little girl has never seen the show before!

It made me sad not just the fact that its glaringly obvious to my 3 year old but that J&K are delusional enough to think that the tups are "unaware". The only ones that are unaware are J&K! They really need a wake up call!!!!

wendyzr said...

In the Entertainment Weekly Review of last night's show they said it well....

"Once upon a time, we tuned in to see how Jon and Kate bounced off each other, and for the way their differing parenting styles (his: laid-back; hers: drill-sergeant strict) collided, with often amusing, chaotic, and, yes, affectionate results. But this week's double-shot of two new episodes kept the couple apart, doubtless by choice."

And that will continue of course. And that is it. The show will be(is) so boring. It is not what it was. Even new viewers want drama and to see them interact but if they are always separated, what is left? And added to that there is nothing more than more and more stupid activities promoting this or that.

The days are numbered...

OverRated said...

Not watching the show is not going to have any impact on the ratings unless you are a Nielsen Family Member.

I found the Wikipedia article on Nielsen Ratings interesting:

Nielsen Ratings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipediaorg/wiki/Nielsen_Ratings

Mrs. A said...

Fay said...
As far as Im concerned its Kates birthday every day,Happy Birthday to me, Happy Birthday to me,Im getting more freebees, Happy Birthday to me.

Amen, sister. That's exactly how it is.

Didn't watch. Haven't watched the show for a very long time, and for those of you who've just stopped watching recently -- congrats and don't worry, it only gets easier and easier to stay away from that terrible show the more you do it.

I am disappointed in Duff and AoC -- couldn't he just tell her no? Why does she seem to have so much power -- she's nobody!

I do think the end will be here sooner than we think -- too many are finally seeing her for what she is and speaking up about it. . .her show might last a little longer but the tide is turning as far as everyone being duped by Kon, and that will have an effect eventually.

Mystical said...

Why did Steve Neild need to attend Charm City Cakes? Did she think Duff and his crew would cause them need to have protection? What a sham this whole bodyguard facade is! Soon we will find the truth....in fact most already know what Steve is really doing with Kate around the clock. Oh, and the way she played it, she didn't know where the bus was taking them (yeah right), so Steve must be on Kate's heels 24/7 to be ready like that at the drop of a hat.

Jodi and Kevin already said that Jon believes Kate has something going with Steve, and I believe it's true. It was said that Jon considered hiring a PI to trail Kate and Steve, and I bet he did just that. Just wait Steve, soon Kate will be sweeping the floor with you just like she did with Jon.

sbryle said...

In response to the question about Jon's dad doing surgery on disabled children.....
Many disabled individuals cannot sit in the dental chair and get their dental work done as non-disabled individuals do, so there are Dentist's who work with these disabled individuals by sedating them and doing all of their necessary dental work at one time. This is usually done in a Hospital setting under anesthesia.

Ugly Kate Cake said...

Dee said, "I thought the same thing. I was annoyed with CCC for getting involved in this - but the not-great-looking cake for Kate, and the fun the kids really seem to have, kind of tempers that annoyance. Also had to laugh - you could see as the kids' cakes were getting more colorful with mounds of messy icing, Kate was getting more freaked out but trying to hold it under control. Plus, all that sugar - I'm sure the kids were bouncing off the walls later in the day."
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I thought so too Dee....regarding the cake statement. Soooooo funny looking at that plain cake, and then seeing the works of art that Duff can create. Even though the kids seem to have fun, Kate made it ALL about her. See is so raucously loud, and classless. You just cannot buy class and common sense.

kate_in_cali said...

For Just Wondering:
About Kate's new solitaire diamond necklace - it is not her sister's work, not at all... that is actually from Tiffany's. It is part of their "Diamond by the Yard" collection, and depending on the size of the stone over fifteen hundred dollars easily, especially since I believe the settings are in platinum (may be available in white gold possibly). What I'd really like to know is where she got that ginormous pearl ring... real pearls are NOT CHEAP and the size of her's is huge, and it looks like it has 2 diamonds on either side of it...

lluvthekids said...

MelissaLG said... I suppose if we called Jon's girlfriend his bodyguard or personal assistant it would be ok in Kateville right?
OR personal trainer...

Jacsamic said... "Mr. Gray came around a corner from the back....completely visible...at minute 29 Mr. Gray was in the frame with his head blurred out and again at minute 30 her Mr. Gray was in the frame with his head blurred out...
Oh, I think to myself...there you go... she is dressing for....yck."

Yes I agree it appears Kate is now dressing for Mr. Gray or her personal trainer. She wore a plain suit when she was with Jon but now wears a bikini for her body guard.


cossysmom said... For Jon not to be there was inexcusable.

Who says Jon was invited. I felt like Kate didn't want him there and would rather spend her birthday with Mr. Gray. After all, if what Kevin and Jody said about Kate saying it was over in December, is a fact. Jon also told them he threatened to hire a private investigator to watch her with the body guard. Is it after that threat that she offers him the contract? Because it was two months later he started dating the teacher.

And to me it seemed like Ace of Cakes and Duff were all about the kids having fun. He had them scream in my opinion to irritate Kate.

And Mary Alice did seem to be a fan of the kids. She and some of the other workers seemed thrilled that the kids came. It looked like to me she watched Kate during the entire visit as if Kate might have an outburst. But she adored the kids and the mess. She even said "they are having a good time. Lots of sugar but no melt downs."

To me the whole crew wanted to do this for the kids. The more mess it became, the more Duff laughed (I think knowing it was getting to Kate.) It was awful the way she pretended to be the kids at the end with those disgusting slurp noises, making fun of them. Most mothers adore their children and think they can do no wrong and everything they do is cute, even the messy stuff. . .
Remember Kate said at the kids party do they really need two cakes, lets start with one. How many kids and parents plus TLC people were there? Many. She was only going to put out one of the two cakes for that many people? Yet Kate gets 7 cakes on her BD, if each child made one, and Duff made the pink one. IF it was not pro bono, they probably only charged the $1000 for the cake the crew made for her.

A Mom-ynous said...

Stepping in for a moment--I don't recall Jon mentioning the charity work.

But I do recall the woman that was part of the abilities group (or whatever it was called) that his purpose as a helper was to help lift the young man on (and off) the lift and to place him on the ski/snowboard attachment.

After that he was to "take one for the team" so to speak. My take from her explanation was the Jon had to watch for other skiers and essentially prevent an accident with the young man.

I don't know much about modified skiing to know if Jon was serving a real purpose or a fabricated purpose, but that was what I heard the lady say on th eshow.

Sarah said...

Did somebody say she had *Lemon* cake?

Ugh, that's my favorite and now I have to boycott that too... crap! :-)

I didn't watch last night(Kate has the sWHINE flu, and I'm not interested in hearing her talk about how hard her life is). The only reason I even wanted to was because I really do love Ace of Cakes!

Some have been mention the cost of their cakes. $1000 is steep, but I bake cakes, covered in fondant, and decorated and all. It's really hard work! I think to that if they were priced in the $100's, that they probably wouldn't be able to keep up with the demand. $1000 prices people out, but also keeps their client base on the "wealthy" side, and probably keeps them from too much business.

You know how Oprah always does her "favorite things"? There have been companies that have gone under *because* they couldn't keep up with the demand. It's sad. I would LOVE a cake from Charm City, but that's business. For now, I'll make my own cake, and I won't complain about it, because at least I can afford to make one. Some people don't even get to eat a meal on their birthday. I'm SO thankful for my simple life!

Anyone else know that song "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" By Good Charlotte? Everytime I think about Kate Gosselin, the song pop's into my head.

"Lifestlyes of the rich and the famous
they're always complainin'
always complainin'
if money is such a problem
well they got mansions
think we should rob them"

Anonymous said...

So TLC thinks we are all dopes? Kate's birthday was filmed way before last weeks premiere. Did they make any mention of that? Or are they trying to confuse people to believe that perhaps they are together and civil to each other? On an other note, I believe Jon's dad was a pediatric dentist. Pediatric dentists have special training on working on the disabled. Many disabled children need to be sedated and in a a hospital setting for routine dental work.

Sarah said...

eastsider said...
I have a couple questions about this episode.

I thought Jon's father was a dentist. John said that his father operated on children with disabilities. Did anyone else catch this or did I not hear right?

I am pretty sure Kate did not let the kids eat their cakes. I am sure she threw them out when they got back home, if they even made it that far.

Kate -- you may think it is cute when you use your made up words...You are not...you just sound really stupid.
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I didn't watch, but I would assume that maybe Jon's dad repaired Cleft Palates... I know there are a lot of oral surgeons that donate their time to preform them on needy children. Sounds like he was a very great man!

I'm glad Jon was donating his time. I don't care what the motivation is, I always support charity work. I figure even if the person who is doing the work isn't in it for the right reasons (not saying that Jon wasn't) that if it benefits someone else, then it's a good thing!

just wondering said...

Did anyone else notice that much of Jon's solo snowboarding footage was previously aired?

This was old footage! And I'd bet some pretty good money that the volunteer segment was also previously recorded but not shown as it didn't really amount to much of anything.

I think TLC had to scramble to come up with something as I'm pretty sure they weren't there with Jon and Deanna in Utah.

just wondering said...

What would the Board of Health have to say about filming in a bakery?

Wondering said...

OverRated: So could you tell me how many Nielsen families are out there. What you are saying is that all 9.8 million people who watched last week are Neilsen families. What does that mean? That there were actually 20 million people watching? Enlighten me, please.

Sue said...

Just wondering said:

What would the Board of Health have to say about filming in a bakery?

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I was wondering that also. Also did were the kids touching real cakes or were they fake (like models) Just curious

wicked witch lives in wernersville said...

Question: When Jon is at the National Ability Center he says "My Dad gave his whole life to handicapped children. For 30 years he operated on handicapped kids." Wasn't Jon's dad a dentist?

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Local here..Jon's dad was a pediatric dentist..his practice takes care of a lot of special needs kids..his partner(who appeared on a show) states on her letter head that they take care of special needs..

Lest us not forget Katie Irene said...

kate_in_cali said...
For Just Wondering:
About Kate's new solitaire diamond necklace - it is not her sister's work, not at all... that is actually from Tiffany's. It is part of their "Diamond by the Yard" collection, and depending on the size of the stone over fifteen hundred dollars easily, especially since I believe the settings are in platinum (may be available in white gold possibly). What I'd really like to know is where she got that ginormous pearl ring... real pearls are NOT CHEAP and the size of her's is huge, and it looks like it has 2 diamonds on either side of it...

I think Kate's is the one that costs 7K. Mayebe a birthday gift to herself? or from TLC? Jon did get a sportscar afterall.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

Octomom wants her show not to be like Jon and Kate plus 8:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/06/exclusive-octo-mom-reality-show-i-dont-want-be-jon-kate

KB said...

How staged was that first interview to start off the episode last night!?! I couldn't believe it!?! Still obviously in a state of disbelief, although it's exactly what I expected and the reason i watched, just to see if they would pull something like that, and they did, of course it was only Kate getting that opportunity (obviously). It was clearly recent and sounds like she's heard a lot about this site and what people here have been saying.

Kel said...

Just wondering: The Ace of Cakes show (Duff) is actually filmed in the bakery. Have you ever watched it?

KB said...

pinkdiamond611 said...
So TLC thinks we are all dopes? Kate's birthday was filmed way before last weeks premiere. Did they make any mention of that?

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Kate does refer to the fact that it is March and that is when her bday. Didn't seem like they tried to get around the fact that it was March as Kate did say that.

Don't think they're trying to pass off those as new, but showing what they already had in the can. The season opener was puposely done to address what had been going on and in hopes of obviously swaying public opinion.

Emily said...

I am constantly surprised at how everyone is all over Kate constantly when it is JON who got the family into the mess they are in by not knowing how to act like a father or an adult. Kate may not be a perfect paren, I don't think she is, but an imperfect parent is better than a non-parent, which is what Jon is. He's completely ineffectual and doesn't try to be. He wasn't even home for his wife's birthday because he was in UT with his little girlfriend.
No one said the kids did this themselves, either. Kate said repeatedly that the crew were all in on the surprise and wouldn't tell her.

Level Head said...

SaNdY said...

PJ said...
"Never mind of course that she is probably the worst "tv mother" ever. Heck, even Roseanne actually liked her kids and listened to what they had to say!!!"
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Can we please stop comparing Jon & Kate + 8 with scripted shows? Yes, Kate is probably the worst TV mother ever but she, Jon and her children are not characters on a scripted show.

Roseanne Barr was portraying a fictional mom with actors portraying her fictional family. All the actors involved got the leave the set each day and return to their regular lives and homes.

The Gosselin children do not have that luxury.
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Going to respectfully disagree that this show is not scripted...it may not be scripted in the way we think, like actors getting a script that they need to memorize, but it is also not reality, either..it's sort of in between....from what I can gather, I believe TLC, along with Jon and Kate, come up with an idea for the episode, and suggestions are made by TLC, Figure 8, the producers (and I don't believe Jon and Kate are listed as producers of the shows today, June 1, can someone with a DVR prove that, I don't have one) For an example, last week, we read that someone told Colin to say thank you to Kate for the birthday party....
And on a side note, I wish Kate was a fictional character, for the kids' sake, but what writer could make up someone like Kate?!
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Thank you Sandy, it appears that the sarcasm in my post was lost on PJ. Perhaps I need to be a little clearer.

Unfortunately the comparison of Kate Gosselin to "scripted" tv mothers will be made by every dopey viewer channel surfing out of boredom. She has become a "character" in a show to many people - hence the huge ratings for the season premiere last week - and a laughing stock to others. Unfortunately in "real" life she is a mother to a large group of children who could all use some love, guidance, and appropriate adult role models. The Gosselin children DO get to "leave" their set every day (when the cameras turn off it turns back into their home), however unfortunately they do not return to a happy home life that anyone would wish for them. We have heard that when the cameras turn off, Kate sheds her (in her opinion) "fabulously fabulous mother" character for something that leads a great deal to be desired. These shows ARE scripted, if not line by line, then without a doubt scripted situationally. I agree with Sandy, this is "acting".

Pixeelated said...

...hum did anyone else notice that Kate said that she went on vacation with Mady to the spa while Cara went on vaction to Utah with John?

two things...
If Cara went on vacation with John, then Cara would not have been at Kate's Birthday. Yet, Cara was at AOC. Therefore, John and Cara could not have gone to Utah during Kate's Birthday.

Why were there no scenes of Cara and John's vacation shown? (Howcome only Kate's vacation with Mady was shown?)Just wondering...

ratherbkayaking said...

http://www.multichannel.com/article277952-_Jon_Kate_Still_Hot_Two_Episodes_
Average_5_7_Million_Viewers.php

Still way too many people watching this train wreck - it is down to 5.7 million viewers for the June 1 episodes.

Anonymous said...

spike1960 says:
I wish I had been a fly on the wall at the pre-production meeting for this episode and the one about Sand, Seashells and Scrapes....

Producer #1:"The tension between Jon and Kate is way too obvious. How about we have Jon explain that he and Kate have decided that only one of them will be out of town at a time, while the other stays home with the kids?"

Producer#2:"Yeah, that would be a good way to explain the seperate vacations, Jon to Utah and Kate to San Diego."

Producer #1:"That's good, but let's go a step further--let's give them altruistic motives for their travels. Kate gets bonding time with Mady, and Jon helps handicapped childen ski."

Producer #2: "That's perfect! Jon won't look so bad for being on the slopes on Kate's birthday."

Producer #1: "Oh, oh, I know! We can have Mady and Cara plan a birthday surprise for Kate, a trip to Charm City Cakes. Of course, the girls will need a little help with the details, like coming up with the idea, arranging transportation, contacting Duff at Charm City to arrange a special Saturday tour of the bakery, etc."

Producer #2: "We need to soften Kate's image with the show's fans. Let's get lots and lots of footage of her at book signings, bantering merrily with the fans, especially the young ones, and expressing how much she misses her kids."

Producer #1: "And let's get some footage of Jon hard at work at home taking care of all 8 kids by himself."

Producer #2: "We need to remind the Gosselins to keep stating the new mantra as much as possible--'We do it all for the children!'"

Producer #2: "I think that could work. But people want to see Jon and Kate together on the couch again. How are we going to manage that without bloodshed?"

Producer #1: "No problem, we'll put a kid between them!"

Privelege Galore said...

Okay a couple of thoughts.
As I was watching last nite (sorry but I did...), I got a little bit nauseous during the kids decorating their cakes. Not b/c I am Pg (I'm not), but b/c it suddenly struck me : I AM SICK OF SEEING THE **HEALTHY** AND FACE IT, PRIVELEDGED GOSSELIN GOSLINGS ENJOYING SOOOO MANNNNY PERKS ALL THE TIME. Yes it's true: I said something against the children (indirectly).
These kids have SOoo much MATERIALLY (no they dont have normal parents and yes they are exploited IMO). But I am talking about the CONSTANT trips, toys, outings, THINGS, it's just too too much.
It wouldnt' have DRAWN VIEWERS--but I would have liked to see or hear about a group of somehow "disadvantaged" or disabled/autistic/cancer patient kids being shuttled to the cake place and given this opportunity!! Think of how happy that outing would've made such children. Even a family of very limited means, to go there and decorate cakes they otherwise would NEVER have been able to afford, together. It's just Greedlins, ALLLL the time. Those kids , let's face it, are VERY priveleged. And my observation was cemented when I saw the EXPENSIVE whatever the thing was that Cara was driving the younger kids around in on the driveway. WTF? Aren't those things expensive toys? Or are they actually like ATV's/Mules for adults? What do small children "need" with such things? AREN'T the (probably Free) bikes ENUF?????!!
And I agree with another poster, I would NEVER PAY $1000+ for a cake, I dont care how famous the bakers or how specialized it is. My kids made me a Duncan Hines yellow cake with chocolate frosting from a can for MY birthday and it was Delish!!! So there, Kate the "Not so Great.!"
STILL would rather have MY life than yours.

marypoppins said...

ok i didnt watch the shows last night. But tonight while flipping i caught a part of i guess the cake episode.

Some of the tups are walking through a living room and heading towards a window. They are whispering about saying "mom, a bus is here" or simialr. Im sure i heard a tup girl say " and then mom will give us candy"

Did anyone else pick this up??

Leah4Prez said...

GrammyPie, I loved your post about how much you adored your mom, with whom you shared a birthday. Very sweet.

Scruffy's Mom said...

People here are surprised Khate's cake was simple. Probably to prepare for the big event ... I have seen photos of the cake celebrating the show's 100th episode (they are online somewhere) it's tall, lots of layers, lots of details of the kids in fondent, and and has Jane and Khate sitting on top in their hateseat.

IA bag lady said...

Maybe if Kate wasn't such a heinous monster, she'd have a few friends and relatives left to help her celebrate her birthday!
How many people would sit there and fuss about the calories in a tiny sliver of cake that was made by Ace of Cakes?? Most of us would shove it in cuz' we know we'd never get another chance to try it!
Did anyone else (who actually watched- I do so just to pick it apart and roll my eyes whenever Kate fakes kindness) notice that on the Mady/Spa episode, Kate actually admits that on the way to San Diego, Mady wanted her daddy and cried for him?...then Kate was soooo proud that after the trip Mady was all over her. Kate is really learning quickly that if the kids don't want to be around her because they actually enjoy her company, it's never to late to buy them off!
Does anyone else think that Kate is trying to look/dress like Victoria Beckham??? Too bad she just doesn't have a clue. She just really can't help herself from being critical of Jon/the kids...pathetic!

JerseyShore said...

Does anyone remember the big white tents in the yard in the Spring? People speculated it was for the
5th birthday party but I believe that was what the tents were for, the big 100th show episode. I don't remember the exact date but someone had posted a picture and you could see the tents. Too bad the "paps" were out and about then.

justaquestion said...

I have an honest question for all of you. i understand your distaste for Charm City Cakes allowing J&K to film an episode with them.....but what is all the complaining to them accomplishing? The show has already aired, what's done is done. It's not like they'll be filming a string of 40 episodes @ Charm City...
I guess I'm just wondering what all of the outrage at the Ace of Cakes people is going to accomplish.
I'm not judging....I just have a genuine curiosity
Thanks!!

donedonedone said...

I watched this show early on and really enjoyed it. By the start of season 4, I was fed up with the freebies and trips and product placements and just stopped watching. Then I heard about the move to the mcmansion and watched again just to see the place and got sucked back in. Started wondering where all their family and friends went, and found this site. I am happy to say that after the premiere, I am done with this show. They always said that as soon as the show was harmful to the family, they would stop it. Well their marriage is ending, their lives have turned into some sick crossover/talk show. What does it take to really put the kids first?

hawaiishoegirlie said...

did anyone notice Mr. Gray's face was blurred in this episode?

IA bag lady said...

Yes Marypoppins.... I heard one of the tups say something about mommy giving them candy too...pretty obvious that Kate set the whole thing up herself. She probably didn't want Jon there because he might appear to be a better parent to the kids in front of the cake people, and we all know that she can't have anyone stealing her thunder! After all, it's HER birthday....
Someone mentioned that Jon was sighted drinking alot on a flight recently. Well, if I were married to Kate, I'd need a Vodka IV drip going 24/7!
I personally give Jon props for actually following thru with what he wants. He said he doesn't want the limelight anymore,and it appears to me that he is trying his hardest to stay away from it. Of course he has some obligation to TLC for the show, but it appears to me that he is trying to live outside Kate's personal hurricane. Too bad he can't take the kids with him. I'm sure she has them all tied up in a contract. How sad for these kids that they don't have family and grandparents etc. in their lives.

Elizabeth said...

A poster suggested watching on YouTube rather than television and another wisely pointed out that YouTube posts how many times the page has been viewed. I noticed since the new season started, the first hour-long special and Kate's Birthday episode are on iTunes top 10 episode list. So if we really want a successful crusade to end the show for the sake of the children it seems we should avoid everything- tv, YouTube, iTunes, DVD purchases, etc.

I have been a fan since the very beginning. I admit, I have the first three seasons on DVD but after seeing the noticeable change in the show in the 4th season, I'm no longer purchasing anything related to show. Now all I have to do is find the discipline to tear myself away when it comes on TV...

Sugar Booger said...

When Kate said she "bakes her own cake every year" I was floored. Who the hell bakes themselves a birthday cake? If my husband, kids, or friends buy me one, then we have a cake... But if not then the day just passes... With a lot of happy birthdays from family and all that, but geez... I don't need a cake... I'm an adult... HELLOOOOO!

MamaBrown said...

I admit that I watched last night...my curiosity got the best of me..but, in the end I found both episodes to be very boring.

To me, the appeal of the earlier seasons was watching this family "get through the day", doing normal family things, now it just seems like an extremely wealthy (yet classless) family flaunting their wealth, extensive (and seemingly whimsical travel) and freebies. I also see desperation on the part of TLC in order to fill 40 new episodes. The merging of other shows like Ace of Cakes, and I think a motorcycle show is coming up soon, as well, along with Emeril next week just wreaks of desperation on the part of the network. The family has become boring, mostly because the parents don't spend that much time with the kids.

I also agree with an earlier post that stated the children have been given WAY too many freebies and incredible experiences, all by the age of 5 for the tups. What do they have to look forward to? strive for? EARN? These children will most likely be incredibly cynical and impossible-to-please teenagers. I used to be a public school teacher for very wealthy children whose parents were raising them in multi-million dollar mansions. Many (not all) of these children had traveled the world and owned designer clothing. One had the audacity to tease me for shopping at Target. This same student brought a Kate Spade designer purse back from NYC as a gift for a friend! All perspective was lost for this child, as I fear it is also lost for the Goseelin children. They have been to so many places, have been able to experience so many incredible things all at such a young age, i just can't see them being overly impressed by anything in the future especially since their mother seems to have an "enough is never enough" attitude towards money and things....things, things, things. Children do not need all of these things, they need parents who are PRESENT in their lives, who love them and guide them and keep them grounded.

I do think that by the time this season ends, America will have moved on from Jon and Kate and their kids. We can only hope they will then regain some perspective and put their family first. However, I have a hunch that once the show ends, the divorce papers will be filed and America will move on to the next large "it" family.

muchsmartermom said...

Marypoppins
Your right!!! That's how Kate gets them to "act" for the camera!!!! More evidence for the investigation that they are working--not just hanging out in the house!!!
Someone better step in and shut done this mess that those poor kids are forced to endure.

Dee said...

Pixeelated said...
...hum did anyone else notice that Kate said that she went on vacation with Mady to the spa while Cara went on vaction to Utah with John?...
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Cara went on a ski vacaion with Jon last season. It was pretty much a whole episode.

liza said...

What stood out for me was when Kate complained about spending her birthday alone. She really must not have any "real" friends. If my husband was away for any reason on my birthday, I'm pretty sure my friends would be over in a heartbeat with some food and drink to celebrate. I may not get to go out, since my baby is small, but I sure would still have some friends to have a good time with!

Cherier1 said...

Emily said...
I am constantly surprised at how everyone is all over Kate constantly when it is JON who got the family into the mess they are in by not knowing how to act like a father or an adult. Kate may not be a perfect paren, I don't think she is, but an imperfect parent is better than a non-parent, which is what Jon is. He's completely ineffectual and doesn't try to be. "

Who got the twins up and ready for school each morning while Kate slept in and then went to work? Who came straight home from work helped feed the kids, cleaned up, played with the kids, bathed all the kids and put all the kids to bed each night?? Who listens to the kids, hugs them, skates with them, teaches them how to ride their bikes, takes them outside to play, etc??

Jon.

He has his issues, but to call him a non-parent is ridiculous.

From what I can gather, Kate took care of the tups from about 8 until noon, then put them down for a 3-4 hour nap. They were awake again from 3-4 until Jon got home around 5-6, say. Then Jon jumped in very actively for the rest of the day.

How is that being ineffectual?

Cherier1 said...

liza said...
What stood out for me was when Kate complained about spending her birthday alone. She really must not have any "real" friends. .........I sure would still have some friends to have a good time with!

6/02/2009 8:15 PM

Karma is a bitch!

Miss Meliss said...

Someone said that not watching gets easier with time... HOW TRUE! I haven't watched since the beginning of season 4 (nope, not even the "remarriage" ugh Kate, what a dope) and I haven't even been tempted to watch any of this season even with all the drama. You don't need to watch with a site like this one! I <3 GWOP!

KaitiebugandBrayBray'smommy said...

Cherier1 said...

liza said...
What stood out for me was when Kate complained about spending her birthday alone. She really must not have any "real" friends. .........I sure would still have some friends to have a good time with!

6/02/2009 8:15 PM

Karma is a bitch!

6/02/2009 8:41 PM


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and so is Kate!!!!!!!

KaitiebugandBrayBray'smommy said...

My four year old apparently was listening to me discuss this stuff with Dh and told me her boy toy planned it! I almost died!

Leanne said...

Just saw more blaring headlines on the cover of the upcoming issue of US magazine and I am so appalled that KON are allowing their life of lies and greed to continue. Do they have no concept whatsoever that their kids WILL see these headlines? This family is being discussed on so many tv channels, what if Mady or Cara see this stuff on tv? I am so sad for these kids. The headlines on these magazines and tv shows would be so hurtful to those kids! It is very pathetic to me that Jon only seems to light up when he is talking of escaping the show and his life by running off to snowboard and attempt to relive his lost youth. Even more pathetic is seeing Kate light up by spa-ing, being away from her kids while travelling, and being so consumed by what she can get for free, material things etc..they should light up at the sight of their beautiful kids and yet I do not see them appreciating these kids at all..the kids seem to be a chore and aggravate them more often than not..what a terrible way to treat the kids considering they are supporting their parents! Shame on Kon..they are disgraceful and should be so ashamed of themselves. Contract or no contract, Jon should love and respect his kids enough to stop this charade NOW..he whines about HIS life yet his kids are living the same fishbowl experience on a much worse level! IMO Jon is enjoying the perks as much as Kate is and I have no respect for him whatsoever to go along with this show when it is very clear that the marriage is over and he and Kate despise each other...shame shame shame!

nanasez said...

Wondering said...
So could you tell me how many Nielsen families are out there. What you are saying is that all 9.8 million people who watched last week are Neilsen families. What does that mean? That there were actually 20 million people watching? Enlighten me, please.

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There are several thousand Neilsen families. Without going to the site to look it up, I'm thinking that the number was 5000 and was recently raised to 8000. Those families are a representative sample from the TV viewing population. By looking at the percentage of the 8000 families watching a particular show, and applying that percentage to the total estimated number of TV viewing families, it was estimated that 9+ million people watched the season opener of J&K+8. Apparently just over half as many Neilsen families watched the episodes aired this week, thus the estimated number of people in the total TV viewing population tuned in to J&K+8 was estimated to be about 5 million.

Limerent said...

@ just wondering
(re: Kate's solitaire necklace)

I believe you are speaking of the one from her sister Christen Largent. She designs and creates jewelry.

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THANK YOU! I was feeling invisible for a long while there ;-)...

So she and her sister are in touch then? If true, I think that's great. Kate (and her kids!) has been estranged from her family for too long.

Limerent said...

@marypoppins

Also, anyone wonder about eating something that several people touched/handled and spoke over and was delivered in an open box?

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Have always thought this about these fancy fondant cakes. Yes, they're lovely, but BARE HANDS have been all over them. Give me any old sugar icing on my cakes anytime.

Limerent said...

@kate_in_cali

For Just Wondering:
About Kate's new solitaire diamond necklace - it is not her sister's work, not at all... that is actually from Tiffany's. It is part of their "Diamond by the Yard" collection, and depending on the size of the stone over fifteen hundred dollars easily, especially since I believe the settings are in platinum (may be available in white gold possibly).

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I thought it was Tiffany&Co, too, but then JW said it was by Kate's sister. I thought maybe I missed something in the news about her sister making it and giving it to Kate recently, or something.

Regardless, I've always wanted one of those Tiffany necklaces. Dream on, right? LOL.

Limerent said...

@KB

How staged was that first interview to start off the episode last night!?! I couldn't believe it!?! Still obviously in a state of disbelief, although it's exactly what I expected and the reason i watched, just to see if they would pull something like that, and they did, of course it was only Kate getting that opportunity (obviously). It was clearly recent and sounds like she's heard a lot about this site and what people here have been saying.

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That intro looked like it was from the same filming of the intro for the premiere.

Limerent said...

@Pixeelated

Why were there no scenes of Cara and John's vacation shown? (Howcome only Kate's vacation with Mady was shown?)Just wondering...

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Cara and Jon vacationed in UT in January. The episode was aired in Season 4.

earthchild said...

nielsen - several years ago Nielsen contacted me. This is the m.o.: asked how many TV's in house. I have 5! Only two are used except when grandchildren are visiting. Avg. age of TV 10-15 years. Nielsen wanted me to include them even though I explained that 4 were used casually. I refused to be included as I felt this would skew poll. Perhaps their policy has changed.
But - I will continue watching J&K Because I like catching the inconsistent episodes. Also, can hardly wait for Kate's melt down.
My burning question is why Steverino hasn't been pulled from the job by his company. He certainly is high profile. Steve's wife is to be commended for her silence.

PaLisa said...

I have been reading GWOP for a few months now and although I have only watched a few episodes of J&K I read the recaps and just had to comment on the Charm city cakes epi.

2 years ago I had an appt at the U of Maryland for a possible kidney transplant. I emailed Charm City, explained my trip there and asked if we could visit the bakery. I was very ill at the time and Ace of Cakes WAS my fav food network show. Needless to say they told me that wasn't a good idea since they pretty much always had a film crew there and in so many words my husband and I would be in the way. I was very upset to say the least. We were even thinking of having a cake in the shape of a kidney made to take with us to the hospital.

You can imagine how I felt when I read that Kate and her CREW were invited. They are just as bad as everybody else. Cater to the already rich so they can get more exposure. The heck with us ordinary people who keep them in business.

At least hopefully the kids had a good time. I do feel for them. I also don't believe for 1 second that Kate ever baked her own cake. That would be beneath her. The kids should have made her a cake from grapes, crackers, and *organic* popcorn!

HiThere said...

sueshe said...

Could be the time of the girlfriend. But if I recall, Kate told him it was over sometime in the Nov.-Dec. time frame. IMHO... I don't think Jon would be out and about unless there was/is serious marriage problems. In fact, I believe the charade of a solid marriage would of continued to be portrayed if it wasn't for the media and their sharp shooting photography. And that is why I believe the couch interviews in the older episodes are so neutral. Then all hell broke loose.
As far as Jon snow boarding and having fun while also helping with the disabled kids, I see nothing wrong with that. In just a 22 minute show, we really don't know to what extent his true involvement was. And to be able to enjoy some time to himself with all that is going on in his personal life is warranted. Again this MHO.

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1). He was out there in March, during Kate's birthday. The timing was perfect.
2). You're missing the point- He looked at the camera and stated that he was going to Utah to work with disabled skiers, as if THAT was the main and only reason for going there. B.S.! Jon wanted to hang with his buddies on the slopes. The disabled skiers angle is totally damage control by TLC. There is no way in hell he would do that on his own.

Ms.Peach said...

Regarding the necklace Kate's been wearing, it is most definitely not from her sister's collection---totally different style.

I have never owned anything from Tiffany's, but it makes sense since she's in NYC all the time. Maybe a gift from the Silver Fox?

curioustoknow said...

Emily said...
I am constantly surprised at how everyone is all over Kate constantly when it is JON who got the family into the mess they are in by not knowing how to act like a father or an adult. Kate may not be a perfect paren, I don't think she is, but an imperfect parent is better than a non-parent, which is what Jon is. He's completely ineffectual and doesn't try to be. "

Before I even attempt to respond to the above post, please provide a more detailed explanation as to why , in your opinion, you believe Jon to be a 'non parent'. Your comment points specially to Jon's role as a parent, not a spouse. So keeping with the topic at hand, why do you feel that Jon is a non-PARENT?

Bladeofgrass said...

Emily said...
I am constantly surprised at how everyone is all over Kate constantly when it is JON who got the family into the mess they are in by not knowing how to act like a father or an adult. Kate may not be a perfect paren, I don't think she is, but an imperfect parent is better than a non-parent, which is what Jon is. He's completely ineffectual and doesn't try to be. "

I will say in all honesty, from the very beginning, I found Jon to be the most loving parent. The Grand Pooba has struck me as a very cold person with little empathy for the kids. It brings to mind when Colin fell down exiting the airplane. I believe she told him "God punishes blah blah.” I do not think there is any possible way to sugar coat Kate. I look at her and think "NO WIRE HANGERS."

Meri said...

Re: Sister's jewelry
Her sister does not use precious stones.

Her jewelry is hand made, and she attributes her father giving her the influence and help to make her own jewelry. She has no issues with her father.

KaitiebugandBrayBray'smommy said...

Its getting really heated over at the other blog talking about this weeks shows intresting

Steph said...

I can't tell who originally said this: Can we please stop comparing Jon & Kate + 8 with scripted shows? Yes, Kate is probably the worst TV mother ever but she, Jon and her children are not characters on a scripted show.

I believe that by 'scripted' posters are saying that this is not the show J&K said it was - 'the cameras simply follow us around while we live our lives doing the things we normally do'. The scripting comes in because the show 'stories' are planned months in advance, reservations are made, clothes purchased, lots of planning, planning, planning.

If this show was not 'scripted' this family would have never taken any of the vacations they have taken, they would not have renewed their vows in Hawaii, they would be a 'normal' family that we watch the kids go to school, come home with homework, eat dinner together, have friends over, are involved in sports or music, take weekend road trips to local attractions, maybe a yearly family vacation, grocery shopping, etc. Basically the things we saw them do and discuss in the first 2 documentaries - but then TLC took over production and the show changed (as anyone can see by watching the old episodes) and here we are with this week's episode with Kate pretending to not know something special was going to happen that day of filming, with the kids saying their lines for the camera that they planned the day, etc.

They have story meetings. Other than a written script, they're not much different than a bad sitcom. And with producers giving the kids and J&K hints of things to say or do while filming the show isn't far from having an actual written script. The show is not natural, normal everyday life in a family in the US. It's a taped record of a family who's consented to do what the producers tell them to, when they tell them to do it and are getting paid very well for working hard for being only 5 & 8 years old.

Which blog? said...

KaitiebugandBrayBray'smommy said...
Its getting really heated over at the other blog talking about this weeks shows intresting

6/03/2009 5:34 PM

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Which blog is that? thanks...

KaitiebugandBrayBray'smommy said...

To answer your question which blog? Gosselins don't need our pity. They are all fighting each other.

just wondering said...

KaitiebugandBrayBray'smommy said...
Its getting really heated over at the other blog talking about this weeks shows intresting

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I haven't been there yet, today, but I may have started a bit of a rumble... :)

Ashley said...

http://www.usmagazine.com/news/new-photo-surfaces-of-jon-gosselin-and-twenty-three-year-old-girlfriend-in-utah-200946

here is a link to the US Weekly article about the girlfriend being in Utah on Kate's birthday.

HeatherR said...

Okay, I may be incorrect on the dates here, but I recall seeing Jon & Kate on one of the celebrity gossip websites around the timing of her birthday....they were together leaving Mr Chow's restaurant in Beverly Hills. I think it was on TMZ.com back in March. The paps asked her "how are you guys doing?" since that is when the affair runors first hit the news. I remember thinking "Wow they must be in CA to celebrate their birthdays since they are only a few days apart". I am going back to TMZ.com now to double check, but I'm PRETTY sure that TLC is playing us all on the timing here!!!!!!!!!

HeatherR said...

Okay I double checked on TMZ.com and the video of Jon & Kate at Mr Chow was on March 25th. Her Bday is March 28th. See below:

Jon & Kate Just Ate ... Together
Posted Mar 25th 2009 11:10AM by TMZ Staff

Nothing says "My husband ain't divorcin' me" like a dinner for two at Mr. Chow -- so amid rumors of a possible split, the "Jon & Kate Plus 8" couple had a very public date night last night in Beverly Hills.


When asked about their relationship, Kate Gosselin told our camera "We're good."


You can search on TMZ.com to find this article if you don't believe me! It seems like they *may* have spent their Bdays together in CA and this whole episode with CCC was contrived bullsh@t.

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