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Here is the full article for the June 29, 2009, In Touch.

Please remember, just like the other post, to keep discussion to this particular incident and family. Thank you.

Cover, page 1, page 2, page 3, page 4, page 5, page 6.

178 comments:

wendyzr said...

Just makes me want to cry...

Thank God the kids have each other. They will be close. I think abused kids stay close because they only have each other to console them.

Jennifer D said...

Page one:

the very top pic doesn't line up with the other ones. It shows Kate in front of the left side of the garage, sitting in her plastic chair, talking on her phone. Second pic shows the garage in the background and Kate is coming from the right side. The plastic chair in in a different place.

I do not see a whistle.

I do not see Kate's cell phone except for in the first pic, which I have already pointed out doesn't line up.

I highly doubt anyone knows why Kate (seemingly) spanked Leah.

wendyzr said...

In the article it has an excerpt from Kate's book: "I deal with discipline daily even hourly. I make the decision to respond in anger or step back and ask God for wisdom" I am paraphrasing.

But unbelievable....

Angel said...

To be perfectly honest, I think that Kate is a pretty terrible mother, but I really don't think that this illustrates that. She spanked her kid. It's well within her rights, and I really think that it's getting blown out of proportion. I've seen people say that "if she spanks her in public, imagine what happens behind closed doors." Who knows, maybe in this cases that thinking is correct. But it's just as probable, if not moreso, that Kate lost her temper because her daughter was being disobedient and ill-behaved (which, from watching the show, seems like the normal order of things for most of the Gosselin kids -- I don't say that to demean them, but to note that they are a reflection of Kon's parenting skills, which obviously aren't very good) and felt that Leah needed to be punished, right then and there.

I don't understand why this is such a scandal. I understand parents who decide not to spank their kids, and I respect that choice. But, for once, I don't think that Kate deserves to be scrutinized for this one. She disciplined her child, in her own (legal) way. She isn't some kind of criminal for doing so, and I don't think that this incident deserves even a fraction of the attention that it's getting. There are things about the Gosselin family that really are disturbing and sad. This isn't one of them.

Bill said...

When one decides to have children, they have a repsonsibility to uphold.

Many ask, why God would give a woman like kate so many children, and have her parenting displayed to the world.

Well, like anything else that is negative in the world, I think God will provide an example of how bad things can be, and how we should treasure our lives and the lives of our children.

Also, negative things like Jon and Kate Plus 8 allow people the opportunity to do the right thing and step in.

I hope someone does the right thing, as God broadcasts this request each and every Monday evening..

Huh said...

Right, that's just what Kate needs. More "time to herself." Or maybe that's code for: Get away from those kids!

Mommof3 said...

It is simply a sad sad situation and unfortunately the only people that can put a stop to it are tooo interested in their profit. The kids have always forvored Jon; saying things like "it would be so much more fun if it was just us and Daddy". Jon needs to engage, grow some male anatomy, and get the kids out of this situation regardless of contracts, etc. Kate certainly won't.

Pilgrim Soul said...

Maybe Leah was misbehaving, blowing the whistle, whatever, simply to get her mother's attention. She's one of eight after all, and her mother is constantly on that pink phone...
Kids will take attention of any kind from parents, positive or negative, if they're not getting much to start with.

cdnmom47 said...

My heart aches for those children.

K8 ain't GR8 said...

Let the secret video footage out! It's about time people got a taste of what this woman is really like to her children. Filming crew have a moral obligation to those kids to let the world see the reality of Kate's behavior!

In and out said...

Has anyone seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIkdOHbtY1E&feature=player_embedded

IMHO said...

I don't see the wrong that Kate did using her flat hand on Leahs bottom. She didn't use a object to instill punishment and she didn't hit her on the face or head. Clearly Leah seemed composed and still standing close to Kate as the officer was talking to Kate.

I think that it is so much more harmful what she and Jon are doing by having EVERY SINGLE move taped for millions of viewers to see. Imagine how resentful these poor children are going to be in years to come. I know I would!

ROFL said...

Poor kid. Another photo (memory)to embarrass her when she's older.

Jeez.

Tammy said...

When my children were younger I ALWAYS used my words first to get my point across. Sometimes it worked and sometimes not.


Based on experience and observation
most children will squirm and cry BEFORE the spanking. I know that it may appear that the spanking hurt but most often then not it is the fear setting in. Just like when a kiddo gets a small cut and they howl at the site of blood.

But this is what Kate gets putting her family in that positon. I think that she needs to think twice but then she doesn't even care to think at all. It is to bad for the Gossselin children that they have her as a mother.

Paige said...

Oh, Kate. Nothing you do is private when you invite the cameras along, not even discipline.

RachieDough said...

Angel said...
To be perfectly honest, I think that Kate is a pretty terrible mother, but I really don't think that this illustrates that. She spanked her kid. It's well within her rights, and I really think that it's getting blown out of proportion.
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Well said, I 100% agree. That family has enough darn problems, this isn't one of them.

LoveToRead said...

It is a well-known fact that kids would rather have negative attention than no attention. Kate pays no attention to them, just to her dang phone. This is classic behavior for kids. Ever since cell phones became so common, I see many parents out with their kids, talking on there phone and ignoring the kids. I remember an incident in the grocery store where a mother was chit chatting on her cell phone and ignoring the adorable toddler in just a foot away from her in the cart. These one-on-one times with my little one were always so precious to me. If I had all the paid help that Kate has, I would be out there teaching the kids games to play, like hopscotch, jump rope, soccer. All these kids do is ride bikes and wander around. They have no guidance in their playtime.

Techymum said...

This, to me, really emphasizes the point everyone is trying to make. These children need to be protected AS CHILD ACTORS. The line between what is "real Mom" and what is "filming Mom" are blurred. Reality and filming are blurred.
What if a child actor did that, would they get spanked? No - a big red flag would be going up that the child does NOT WANT TO WORK. And they would most likely be removed from the production.
More than ever, I feel for all 8.
They may not be filming at the moment, but we don't know, do we. Maybe they were filming an hour ago and they need a play break.

MominWA said...

In each situation, I have the choice to respond in anger or to step back and ask God for wisdom

Stupid bitch completely contradicts her own actions. Who does she think she's kidding? She flew off the handle and COMPLETELY reacted in anger, as I'm sure she does EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Actions speak louder than words, Kate!

orchids88 said...

I believe people are responding to (yet again) the hypocrisy of Kate.

She repeatedly advocated time outs and talked about disciplining in love instead of anger. Once again, she is shown to be a fraud and a liar.

I very rarely spanked my kids, and never in the knee-jerk, temper fit kind of way the pictures clearly show. Obviously she’s venting her anger, not disciplining her child in a clear-minded, constructive way.

If she lashes out over something so trivial as blowing a whistle, or whatever it was, can you imagine how she reacts to something serious?

The way those kids flinch, rapidly blink, and rock back and forth…well, we’ve all watched enough talk shows that have done segments on the signs of child abuse to realize something is seriously wrong here.

Charlie said...

All that talk about her using a fist is proven wrong. byt hese pictures.

Momof2 said...

Does she see how juvenile and self absorbed she is with all the photos with her on the pink phone....a mother of 8...a GOOD mother does not have that many opportunities to be gabbing on a cell phone while her very young kids are frolicking in a pool. Good thing she has OTHER people watching out for the safety and well being of those kids.

inksmudge said...

The problem here, as I see it, is not that Kate spanked Leah. The problem here is that paps were there taking pictures of a moment that should have been private. Whether or not you believe spanking is right or wrong, or whether Kate spanking Leah is a big deal or not, it doesn't change the fact that moments like those are not intended for public consumption. Would you have wanted the whole world to see you getting spanked when you were a kid? I know I wouldn't have.

And why were the paps there? Because these idiots have put their kids on camera for all to see and turned their private lives into public entertainment. They made this decision, and doing so has spawned every single problem, issue, and scandal to date, from gumgate and knobgate through the alleged affairs and right up to the water bottle and now the spanking. If they'd been smart, sensible, decent parents, and kept their children's privacy sacrosanct, none of this would be happening. None of it.

tessa said...

Jennifer D said...

the very top pic doesn't line up with the other ones. It shows Kate in front of the left side of the garage, sitting in her plastic chair, talking on her phone. Second pic shows the garage in the background and Kate is coming from the right side. The plastic chair in in a different place.

I do not see a whistle.

I do not see Kate's cell phone except for in the first pic, which I have already pointed out doesn't line up.

I highly doubt anyone knows why Kate (seemingly) spanked Leah.
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The chair is the same chair and has been moved. I suspect Kate got up angry, pushed or tossed the chair as she was walking away talking on the phone to get away from the noise. She got off the phone, put it down and then came after Leah. We don't know how much time elapsed. Maybe Kate was on the phone for 20 minutes before coming after Leah. If the chair was knocked over maybe the twins picked it up.

The whistle can clearly be seen hanging on a cord around Leah's neck.

Joanne said...

Although I do think she has a short fuse and probably hits those kids often, its not a crime. What is a crime to me is that she did it knowing there are camera's around and now this poor kid is being spanked for millions to see online and on a magazine cover.

Kate had no thought to what this may do to her child, nor did she care. She hit that kid out of anger and its wrong. She should have at least taken her somewhere private so as to not totally humiliate the poor child.

muchsmartermom said...

The fact that Kate lies to the public and her paying audiences that she uses time outs--that is a huge issue.
I personally think she spanked out of anger--her own frustration, which is so wrong. She is losing the trust of those precious children and she will never get it back.
Let Kate parade herself across the country and on tv. I don't give a s###. But good God, give those children back their lives.

Tangerine Tanya said...

OH MY! The **** has hit the fan!

Whether spanking your child or allegedly smoking pot is right or wrong it is all on film so millions of viewers to see.

This is where they put themselves! They said that they did the show to "Document" the childrens life and now look who is being documented.

Most people that have children take pictures with cameras or sit back and capture their precious moments in their hearts.

I feel no pity for Jon and Kate!

They made their bed!

Sue said...

Jennifer D said:

Page one:

the very top pic doesn't line up with the other ones. It shows Kate in front of the left side of the garage, sitting in her plastic chair, talking on her phone. Second pic shows the garage in the background and Kate is coming from the right side. The plastic chair in in a different place.

I do not see a whistle.

I do not see Kate's cell phone except for in the first pic, which I have already pointed out doesn't line up.

I highly doubt anyone knows why Kate (seemingly) spanked Leah.

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I looked at the pictures. The whistle is blue and is around Leah's neck. They have more than one white plastic chair.

Troy said...

I agree, lets see the video footage that TLC no doubt has. Show the world just how freaked out Kate is. I grew up in the "spank is OK" generation. No big deal and not worth the time, but would be both sad and funny to see the "real" Kate in action.

The kids are little souls who don't deserve to be part of a "faux" show about life. It started as real, but as the song goes "money changes everrrrythinnng..."

POOLTIME said...

I noticed the pool in the pictures. When GWOP posted the home before the G's bought it, there was a pool, but I haven't noticed it since they moved in. Is this the same home? Where's the pool? Seem's like with all these paparazzi shots we'd see them in it occassionally.

Jon and Kate ain't so great said...

The heat is on.

Not a fan either said...

This morning I was watching an old episode because I wanted to see the new ad for their upcoming fake "big announcement" show. It was the show where Jon cooked Korean. I noticed when Aaden was crying after Jon (it was not Aaden's turn to ride with Jon), Kate put him in time out. Instead, that would have been the perfect opportunity for her to have stooped to his level, held him close, and explained (even if it was for the 100th time) that it was not his turn. She then threatened him by saying either you do a project or go to bed. Next scene showed Aaden in bed still crying the saddest little sound. It finally hit me. Kate does not have the mothering gene. She has no natural mothering instincts at all. None. My heart breaks for these children. How could people not see how poorly she treats these precious children.

LORI in OHIO said...

The problem may not be the spanking to some, however, the reason she spanked is sure a problem in my eyes. These kids get precious few moments to just be kids.
Put the phone away Kate, while outside playing with your kids. Let them run and jump and play and scream with no TLC boundries for just a little while!!! Maybe Leah needed to blow that whistle for stress relief. Lord knows they must be feeling it to the brim too. Or - maybe the kids have checked out when it comes to listening to your commands. They must be on overload with all of the Rules According to Kate. You are a pitiful excuse for a Mother, Daughter ,Friend, Wife and Celebrity. Now- put that in your whistle and blow it.

nanb said...

Jennifer D said...
Page one:

the very top pic doesn't line up with the other ones. It shows Kate in front of the left side of the garage, sitting in her plastic chair, talking on her phone. Second pic shows the garage in the background and Kate is coming from the right side. The plastic chair in in a different place.

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They have multiple garage doors. In the 1st pix Kate in front of a door with a car in it and Leah is close. Then Leah probably moved further away in front of a garage door with lots of garbage in it after being told to be quiet but this probably was still close for Kate.

They a have many white thrones, see Kate as she is walking over there are a stack of thrones in with the garbage.

The whistle is blue and it is around Leah's neck on a string!

Jennifer P said...

The saddest picture I've ever seen is the one where one of the tups is wanting comfort from Steve Neild and he just has his arms folded. Compare it to the next picture where Jon appears to be getting ready to hug his daughter. Now I know it isn't Steve's responsibility to comfort the kids, but how can any caring adult ignore that little girl? I hope he did end up giving her a little hug, but his folded arms don't look like it.

GraceJ said...

Seriously, this whole mess needs to be put to bed. I can not imagine growing up one day and have my childhood splattered all over tabloid news. I just read a story about the next episode and possible "divorce" -who cares? You reap what you sow. I really feel for the children; bottom line they always are on the losing end. I'm going to go hug my kids and thank my husband again for all his hard work.

LpCatz said...

wendyzr said:
"In the article it has an excerpt from Kate's book: "I deal with discipline daily even hourly. I make the decision to respond in anger or step back and ask God for wisdom" I am paraphrasing."

But unbelievable....


Well, Lordy-Be!! I guess God made her do it! He's bad about that!

RottieMommy said...

Here is the preview for Monday. Wonder what the big announcement will be....
Divorce
Seperation
Therapy????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIkdOHbtY1E&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fperezhilton%2Ecom%2F&feature=player_embedded

3jaysmama said...

I think the issue here is not that she spanked her daughter. The issue is that once again one of her children will have one of their precious memories documented for life. Kate knew good and well that there was p-people hanging out taking pictures and instead of taking Leah inside and dealing with it in private-she chose once again to humiliate one of her children in public. Mother of the year!!

NotAFan said...

I feel bad even thinking this, let alone typing it for the world to read. But what kind of common trash goes around spanking their kids in front of God and everybody, when they KNOW that they are being photographed? All the Ann Taylor outfits in the world would not give that woman an ounce of class.
I believe this incident, like the panty and boob shots and all the bikini pictures is Kate trying to get Jon's attention via the media. If she can't get him to come home by looking hot on the beach, she'll do it by having a public meltdown and hitting the kids for all the world (and Jon) to see.
All that aside, I am not a Kate-Hater at all, and I really, really hope that their marriage can be fixed. But she is not going to get him back by parading around in bathing suits or acting out towards the kids. She just needs to rediscover the Kate that she was when they first got married. Remember how cute the proposal video was? They were so in love then!

KiSSy said...

I don't have a problem with the rare need to spank. But what I see here is a woman who has no patience to deal with these annoying children because she's too busy promoting herself. A total "Mommy Dearest" moment.

When Kate's in "KateMode" she just can't be bothered with these nuisances. I sense from the look on her face that she was coming from a mind set of "I'm an incredibly busy and sought after celebrity..how DARE you interrupt my very important life with your childhood antics. WHAM!!!"

Kate has become so self-consumed she has no room in her life for anyone else. This includes the children who bought her 15 minutes of fame. She's exchanged her family and friends for fame and fortune. If Kate really doesn't have the time or desire to be a REAL mother (not a REALITY mother)then she needs to just fess up and let Jon take over the parenting for good.

You can't be a mom just when it's convenient or only when it brings in more money or when it's simply to look good on TV.

Hang up and love your children.

Triumph said...

I'm so surprised. Not sure if anyone else posted this, no time to read all BUT I wrote to the Health Expo in Canada & they wrote back & KATE GOSSELIN WILL NOT BE A GUEST SPEAKER!!! WOO HOO!!! I would post my reply but afraid I'd copy my hotmail access. So write those letters!!!!! Next is the Cleveland one!!!

Tangerine Tanya said...

inksmudge said:
The problem here is that the paps were there taking pictures of a moment that should've been private.
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I am GLAD that the paps were there to catch that on film!!! Now Kate is being documented!

TRIUMPH said...

The letter from the Health Expo was from a Rebecca Darling with Bayley Group & she said "Kate Gosselin will not be on the program." Said "new owners are changing the line up...." So thankful.

Hambone said...

RachieDough said...
Angel said...
To be perfectly honest, I think that Kate is a pretty terrible mother, but I really don't think that this illustrates that. She spanked her kid. It's well within her rights, and I really think that it's getting blown out of proportion.
___________________________________
Well said, I 100% agree. That family has enough darn problems, this isn't one of them.

6/18/2009 10:24 AM


I'm sorry, but I strongly disagree with both of you. This is a HUGE problem. Maybe not for Kate, but it is for Leah.

99.9% of kids who are spanked
( and I'm not against it if it's done privately and only for particular behaviors ) do not have it splashed across the internet and in magazines for all her friends...current and future.... to see. Kate knew the paparazzi were there snapping pictures, and she had to have known this would end up public. She had zero consideration for her daughter's forthcoming humiliation. This photo will still be on the internet, 20-30-50 years from now, and Kate knew that. Leah's future husband, children, and grandchildren will see this.

If she felt she really needed to spank Leah to discipline her, she should have taken her by the hand and led her INSIDE THE HOUSE, did what she needed to do, then come back out and get back on her phone and plastic throne.

Instead, her own anger and rage prevented her from thinking about what is best for her daughter. Was a spanking in front of everybody more important than considering this will humiliate Leah for years to come? No! Because she is a selfish angry hateful woman who cares only about HER needs at any given moment.

KiSSy said...

NotAFan said...
I feel bad even thinking this, let alone typing it for the world to read. But what kind of common trash goes around spanking their kids in front of God and everybody, when they KNOW that they are being photographed? All the Ann Taylor outfits in the world would not give that woman an ounce of class.
I believe this incident, like the panty and boob shots and all the bikini pictures is Kate trying to get Jon's attention via the media. If she can't get him to come home by looking hot on the beach, she'll do it by having a public meltdown and hitting the kids for all the world (and Jon) to see.
All that aside, I am not a Kate-Hater at all, and I really, really hope that their marriage can be fixed. But she is not going to get him back by parading around in bathing suits or acting out towards the kids. She just needs to rediscover the Kate that she was when they first got married. Remember how cute the proposal video was? They were so in love then!



I don't think so. I think Kate was in love with the idea that she was marrying this hip good looking guy whose family had some bucks and she was gonna cash in.

If she really wanted Jon's attention and to prove her undying love for him, she'd fire the bodyguard to end any question about her fidelity or intentions. But that hasn't happened has it?

I don't think Kate is trying to impress anyone but herself. I think she really enjoys all the attention...positive OR negative. As long as she's "out there" in the public eye, gaining media attention, it's totally stroking her ego.

Cindi said...

Not a fan either said:

When it showed Jon cooking the Korean food and he had to run to the market little Aaden was punished by Kate for crying for his daddy etc..

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sorry Not a fan either that I didn't quote your exact words but yes I do remember seeing that show and I was soooo sad for little Aaden as he and Leah are my favorites. It showed Aaden sucking his thumb and holding his chewy for comfort in his little mattress on the floor.....

TUNDRA said...

Thanks for the links!

Kate says she has no regrets, but given the backlash of being photographed swatting one of her kids for a seemingly minor, insignificant infraction, I wonder if Kate wishes she could do a retake or is glad she got "caught" b/c she's on the cover of another tabloid just in time for next week's "big announcement"?

Oh, the irony of it all. Kate and Jon make fools out of themselves on a near weekly basis, ignore their children's emotional needs in favor of fullfilling Kate's self-professed "desperate" desire/need to provide for her children and TLC gets lots of free publicity. Everybody is happy except the children who truly have no control over their own lives, nevermind their self-absorbed parents.

samcarter said...

It seems like common sense to me, when a child is using an object or toy to misbehave, you take the toy or whatever it is away. That's called natural consequences, and teaches a child in a much more positive manner than spanking.

I can honestly say that if my child were using a whistle to make noise while I was on the phone, and the child had been warned once, and continued to be noisy, then I'd walk over and ask for the whistle. In our house, you lose privileges and toys for misbehavior.

It would have been a much more constructive form of discipline, Kate, and it wouldn't have made the tabloid news. Then again, since you're planting your bum in your chair in your front yard, and telling your kids to play in the front yard where the "P-people" can get pictures, I'm guessing that it didn't matter to you whether or not the pictures made the tabloids.

Her reaction was just over the top. She's been a mom as long as I have--my oldest is the same age as the twins--and I've learned to pick my battles and how to discipline without resorting to spanking for playing with a toy.

Yes, she asked the kids to be quiet. But they're outside. If she wanted privacy and quiet on the phone, wait till they're asleep or go in the house to make your phone call. For heaven's sakes.

Joan said...

Jennifer D said...
Page one:

the very top pic doesn't line up with the other ones. It shows Kate in front of the left side of the garage, sitting in her plastic chair, talking on her phone. Second pic shows the garage in the background and Kate is coming from the right side. The plastic chair in in a different place.

I do not see a whistle.

I do not see Kate's cell phone except for in the first pic, which I have already pointed out doesn't line up.

I highly doubt anyone knows why Kate (seemingly) spanked Leah.
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For some reason it seems you want to prove things are not the way they are pictured.

First of all that is a 3 bay garage. She was sitting on the left side of one doorway (I think the middle one) and walked across another doorway. That is why it looks like she is coming from the right.

Second, they do have more than one white plastic chair.

Third, it looks like the whistle is in the girls hand.

Four, Kate probably set her cell phone down on the chair she was sitting on before she walked over.

Momof2 said...

inksmudge said:
The problem here is that the paps were there taking pictures of a moment that should've been private.
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...what happened here is a problem for Kate that she was exposed for the lying hypocrite that she is...when Leah covered her bottom she KNEW what was coming so Kate must use hitting a lot to keep those kids in line.

Those kids butter Kate's bread...they are the ONLY ones that have given her more than she's ever had....she would be and is NOTHING without them.

organizedblogroll said...

Wait till her kids are teenagers and they live with the phone in THEIR EARS. Let's see how she likes it.

Pilgrim Soul said...

Of course, a reality show about how DIVORCED parents of multiples cope is brand new ratings territory - just what the Gosselins need to distinguish themselves from the new crop of multiple shows popping up.

I have no doubt that the marital strife is real and that parents of multiples are statistically more likely to head for divorce, but this is just another way for K8 to continue her life in the limelight, at the kids expense. Surely, she and TLC will tout it as "an honest and moving portrait of a family in crisis." See how they cope! Poor Kate! No wonder she was such a b-ch! Look at all the pain she's been harboring inside!

AGGHHH. I so hope someone steps in and saves those kids from any more of this damaging c-p. God only knows their parents won't, not with the money it's raking in.

kidsneedprotection said...

Jennifer P said...

The saddest picture I've ever seen is the one where one of the tups is wanting comfort from Steve Neild and he just has his arms folded. Compare it to the next picture where Jon appears to be getting ready to hug his daughter. Now I know it isn't Steve's responsibility to comfort the kids, but how can any caring adult ignore that little girl? I hope he did end up giving her a little hug, but his folded arms don't look like it.


Steve Neild did show affection by rubbing Leah's head. The fans went ballistic about it too. Also, the picture where Leah was posing in her little bikini like Mommy didn't help. She was just doing what she has seen from her mother. I wonder if the blowback from viewers is the reason Steve Neild is not around anymore? Kate might have acted half manic around him but she wasn't abusing the kids.

Little Leah said...

Jon and Kate have both alluded to how little Leah is and how they have to be careful not to hurt her accidently. Remember the Bouncy House episode and some of the email episodes. Anyway, I think Kate would think twice before grabbing Leah's arm so roughly. She could really do some harm reacting out of rage. Discipline is suppose to teach not hurt.

quincy mackenzie said...

Whether or not Kate was in her right as a mother to spank her child isn't really the point here.

Kate not only invites the paps to "document" their every move, but insists on staying in her front yard - IN FULL VIEW - for the photographic "memory making."

She has a ginormous backyard in which she and her offspring can respectively talk on the phone and frolic about in. She also has her not-a-nanny there to fill in when she doesn't want to be around her children... something most mothers don't have. There really is no excuse for how she conducts herself.

She wanted all this attention, she asked for all this attention, she flaunts herself to add to the attention... and darned if she didn't get exactly what she wished for.

How I wish the 'sheeple' would stop defending her every wrong-doing. What a waste of energy. Why aren't they stepping up to instead defend these eight precious children who certainly didn't ask for this attention... nor for the selfish, narcisstic parents they received.

Shame on Kate. And shame on TLC for encouraging this monster.

emptynester said...

Loved the quote from Life and Style Magazine:

"Whether the paparazzi are there or not, I am a mother first," Kate, 34, exclusively told Life and Style through a Bravo rep, vehemently defending her actions.

Really? Exclusively told through a Bravo rep??

SammysMom said...

OK maybe it's just me, but what is Kate's fascination with sitting in her driveway while the kids play all the time? They have 10+ acres and 2 puppies to run around with! They have a great playset in the backyard! They have a pool! The woman moves into a million dollar home with all those extras and she's STILL parkin' her butt in a plastic chair in the driveway, LOL. I just think it's too funny.. and baffling.

And even if it is to let the kids ride their bikes, fine, but seriously could Kate not get up and play WITH the kids sometimes? When my DD is outside and wants to play in front I bring out the bubbles, the sidewalk chalk, the bouncy balls, draw a hopscotch and we PLAY! Whether or not it's because they have siblings and can play with each other, there is a LOT to be said about Mommy getting in there and playing with her kids too.

Kate has no "fun" factor in her.
Very sad.

RememberMe said...

If Mady really did catch Kate and Steve kissing in NC, that would explain why he hasn't been around as much since.

bcsurvivor2001 said...

I'm sure this newest commercial/announcement is meant to be a ratings booster (in part). But just from the looks of it - it is the most solumn (sp?) I've seen. The parting picture in the drive is quite telling I think...the big distance between them - her looking at him once, turning and looking back while putting her hand in her purse at her side - I think is very telling.

We all know they are basically already seperated - but I think this is to offically announce to the viewing audience that it's done.

They will I'm sure spin it to their advantage where they can - but in reality since Season 5 has started they have been hinting (ever so subtly) about it.

kate'sloose said...

Star Magazine Scans June 29, 2009

QFI and Steve Neild get caught by Mady. Where did Steve sleep at the beach house?

Midwest Teacher said...

Whatever Kate's reason this situation does not warrant spanking. The only time (if any) a spanking may be warranted is when the child herself is harming another or could harm herself. Meaning, a spanking is for "shock" value and you mean business. I'm not supporter of corporal punshiment, but I guess that would be the only time I'd see it warranted. Whatever this situation was it doesn't look like spanking is a suitable punishment.

Again, if Kate would get off her rear and actually interact with her children instead of being distracted by phone, text, etc. then the kids wouldn't act out causing them to receive negative attention.

What a mess!

Catherine said...

Triumph that is great news. So glad they got rid of Kate.

RobyninReadingPA said...

POOLTIME said...
I noticed the pool in the pictures. When GWOP posted the home before the G's bought it, there was a pool, but I haven't noticed it since they moved in. Is this the same home? Where's the pool? Seem's like with all these paparazzi shots we'd see them in it occassionally.

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The pool is completely on the other side of the house. From the street, the garage is to the right of the house. Pool is to the left behind the house, enclosed in a privacy fence. Drive that road all the time. If they want the kids outside to play in privacy, all they need to do is play in the fenced area. UGH. They WANT the paps there!

AnneMarie said...

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Instead, her own anger and rage prevented her from thinking about what is best for her daughter. Was a spanking in front of everybody more important than considering this will humiliate Leah for years to come? No! Because she is a selfish angry hateful woman who cares only about HER needs at any given moment.
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BINGO!

To me it isn't spank or not spank, but the fury behind the action does not at all equate with the problem. It was irrational spontaneous, explosive behaviour.

NoUse4Kate said...

Orchid88 said:

"Obviously she’s venting her anger,
not disciplining her child in a clear-minded, constructive way."


Exactly!

eatfoodnot2muchmostlyplants said...

@ not a fan- kate was a bitch in the proposal video too. you could see (to follow the zeitgeist) 'green shoots' of controlling bitchery.

remember her asking John over and over..."did you get it?" "Yeah but did you get it?" until john answered her. I think it was about a specific type of ring- i dont remember. she couldn't even relax enough to stop nagging and enjoy her sweet proposal.

Poor John. You should have RAN.

minnow said...

Wendyzr had a good point. I'm also glad the kids have each other... especially Mady and Cara to look after them. It's just unfortunate that Mady and Cara have to grow up so quickly to take care of their younger siblings.

the article is really trying to twist the interpretation of those photos but i'm sure many people will eat it up. instead of all the speculation reporting i'd like to see more information on the "ongoing investigation" of child labor law, but how much real reporting can we expect from magazines like these?

Has anyone heard about the June 22nd show Preview clip?? Supposedly a big announcement about their family will occur on this episode. perhaps a divorce announcement? Separation?

if they do choose to air all of that i will be EXTRA horrified for these kids. how terrible to have their parents' divorce and failed marriage be publicly announced and dealt with nationwide! i really dont see how that could be "in the best interest of the children" at all.

julieboolie said...

To me the bottom line in discipline (spanking in this instance) is not necessarily the method in which it is administered, it is the emotion behind it's delivery. It is clearly visible in facial expressions that her emotions got the best of her. And the terror it evoked on that child is clearly visible. Even the look on Mady's face as she witnesses it speaks volumes. Yeah, she's screwed up her marriage and the damage mounts daily on those 8 kids. Pray for them people... pray.

BarbMae said...

This family saga just gets sadder and sadder. The recent photos of Mady hugging Jon on separate occasions means this little girl misses her Daddy alot and needs him alot more than she needs her Mommy. I think the tups are just so confused they don't know how to react on anything right now. They've had so many changes in their young lives, so many caring people that have come in and out of their young lives, no stability. Being afraid to get dirty or messy, being afraid of dogs but your parents get you big dogs. The simple solution to all these tabloid stories would be just for these idiot parents to take their kids to the OTHER SIDE OF THEIR HOUSE where the dreaded "P" people CAN'T TAKE PICTURES!!! Also, if Kate who herself said she is friendless who the heck is she talking to on that darn pink phone of hers. I have never seen anyone that is so obsessed with a phone then her. I have a cell phone for emergencies only and have no need to instantly call someone while I'm out and about. My phone doesn't text, or have internet. You know that someone will eventually get her phone records and it will be published on who she is talking too and then all heck will break out again. I am so sad and sick that this family is in the "celebrity news" every day. I don't care what their announcement is I just want them the two of them to go away and the kids to be able to start to have a life w/o cameras and strangers around.

Dor said...

Just my .02, but if the kids were outside in their "playground" and Kate couldn't hear on the phone, she could have just moved to a quieter place after telling them to please be quiet. I do this ALL the time at home with my 3 kids. Clearly her needs exceed the needs of the kids and she retaliated in anger. Poor Leah.

It Is All A Game To Her said...

I don't think Kate is trying to impress anyone but herself. I think she really enjoys all the attention...positive OR negative. As long as she's "out there" in the public eye, gaining media attention, it's totally stroking her ego.

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BINGO, WE HAVE A WINNER! :)

Pat said...

It would be helpful if you put in the title of You Tube videos too, that way we could go to You Tube and look them up. The links come up (for me) as a bunch of nonsense that isn't recognized by my browser. Thanks.

I agree with LovesToRead..all those kids do is wander around. They have no guidance at all. I find it weird that their mother never seems to get off her butt and help them or play with them. Day after day, the same thing..Kate in a lawn chair, on the phone. Pffft.

Carrie said...

The youtube video was posted here, so hopefully this comment is okay: I cannot watch that horrific "sweeps-week"-esque ratings stunt they are trotting out on Monday. "Let's manufacture a ratings gem based on the demise of a family unit because our ratings have been dropping like a lead balloon." Please. Follow the bouncing ball and ignore the public indecency, questionable discipline and tabloid documented affairs. Here's my humble request for whomever is assigned the task of recapping: kindly post somewhere on this site (during the show if possible) if they are in fact suspending filming. I might rest just a little more peacefully knowing things might be getting better. My guess is they are "shockingly" separated or in counseling. Either way...I cannot watch.

Comment said...

There is a picture of Kate without makeup taken either yesterday or today. Caption says "Jon and Kate play outside with their kids" Again she has her breasts revealed.I used to sometimes dress like that in High School.

Mama of 2 P's in a Pod said...

My heart just breaks. I can't imagine being so wrapped up in life and in myself to ignore those beautiful children. I pray they stop filming and get their lives back in some sort of order before its too late....

snarksville said...

Isn't it odd that Leah is 5 and still sucks on those disgusting diapers?

I'm betting the announcement is something REALLY big, like 2 new dishwashers.

Cherier1 said...

Momof2 said...
Does she see how juvenile and self absorbed she is with all the photos with her on the pink phone....a mother of 8...a GOOD mother does not have that many opportunities to be gabbing on a cell phone ....."

This how I feel. And I know that as soon as I get on the phone, my kids seem to want my attention all the more.

RealPAMommy said...

When do the kids get their bodyguards? I am sure the twins would like some sort of protection from cruel tween schoolmates and the tups clearly need protection from their own mother. Kate has a bodyguard when she goes shopping, attends a private birthday party, goes to the beach, etc. As sweet Mady would say "It's just not FAIR!"

Cherier1 said...

LORI in OHIO said...
The problem may not be the spanking to some, however, the reason she spanked is sure a problem in my eyes. "

I think this says it all. I personally do not agree with spanking and I have done it. (I am not proud of that and I recognize that it was all about ME losing control.)

To me, this is all about Kate losing control - to the point that she let the world see it. If that is true, then what happens behind closed doors?

I hope they get MORE nannies and she travels MORE OFTEN.

konspiracytheory said...

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Laura said...

I really hope the "announcement" is that they are cancelling the show and will be concentrating on their family. I emailed TLC my concerns about the show and got an interesting response. From a business standpoint, cancelling the weekly show and doing a follow up special in a year or so would bring the integrity back to the network. They seemed to agree.

I really hope it happens.

pinkdiamond611 said...

Spanking is not a crime no, but in this day and age spanking because a child blew a whistle is considered poor parenting. This is relevant because Khate claims she is "Mother of the Year" and has it all under control. What also needs to be brought out is whom exactly was she chatting with on that phone?? She went right back to chatting on the phone after she "shut the kid up". She could have simply taken the whistle away. No Khate was po'd because Leah was interupting her conversation.

Rosemarie said...

The fact that plays in the driveway in clear view of the paps makes me wonder what her motives really are. They have such a huge house. They could easily play in the expansive backyard where no one would see them. Where she could really discipline her children privately. Where the children could have one shred of privacy. But no, she choose to parade in front of the house.

I think its clear she wants the paps to take her picture. She wants them to see every single thing she does. She wants to continue to be plastered all over the tabloids.

AnnieD said...

Angel said...
To be perfectly honest, I think that Kate is a pretty terrible mother, but I really don't think that this illustrates that. She spanked her kid. It's well within her rights, and I really think that it's getting blown out of proportion.
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RachieDough said...

Well said, I 100% agree. That family has enough darn problems, this isn't one of them.
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It's a contentious issue I know but I want to be counted among those who are 100% opposed to spanking. Even in private. Even if I accept that it should be reserved for cases of extreme behaviour, none of those kids qualify as extreme. This was simple boldness from a five year old. Get off the phone and interact with your kids and keep your slaps to yourself.

nanasez said...

Kate does not have the mothering gene. She has no natural mothering instincts at all. None.
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ITA. In order to be a good parent, a good nurturer, one must be able to give of oneself. Kate isn't a giver, she's a taker. It's all about Kate all the time. Attention that she can get from others is more important to her than what she can give those children. She won't get off the phone for five minutes to spend time with her children, unless she's getting paid to do it on camera. They have that huge home and property, and here she is still in her white plastic chair, sitting in the driveway while the kids play around her - and now she has no Jon to scream at or take her frustrations out on.

Think of all the time and attention that she could be giving her children, now that they're older and don't require the same kind of intensive routine tending that infants/toddlers require (i.e. - diapers, bottles, help with toileting, etc.)...and now that she can afford so much help with the mundane household stuff. In her position, I'd certainly have a housekeeper or two to take care of the shopping, laundry, cleaning, and maybe some cooking so that I could spend that time with my children. She has the luxury now to have plenty of time to divide among eight children, but she won't get off the damned phone or stay in town long enough to do it. Because she's selfish, on the lookout for what she can get from people outside the home rather than focusing on what she could be giving her family.

sista #2 said...

Why on earth would she spank one of them with all of "her new friends" hiding out in the bushes? Is she out of her mind?

Kate, if your gonna beat them....at least take them in the house. Now that poor kid is on the cover of a million magazines.

peace
#2

ROFL said...

Tangerine Tanya said:

I am GLAD that the paps were there to catch that on film!!! Now Kate is being documented!
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Exactly!

nanasez said...

I noticed the pool in the pictures. When GWOP posted the home before the G's bought it, there was a pool, but I haven't noticed it since they moved in. Is this the same home? Where's the pool? Seem's like with all these paparazzi shots we'd see them in it occassionally.
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That pool picture in the magazine was likely taken in NC, when they were recently on vacation.

The Gosselin's pool is on the opposite side of the house from the driveway/garage. The kitchen windows would overlook the pool area. The pool would be visible from the main road, but it is has large beds of plantings (shrubs, trees, etc.) that act as a privacy screen, hiding the pool from sight of anyone traveling the main road or the driveway. You can see it if you copy and paste this link into your browser.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=heffner+road+reading+PA&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=32.748002,56.25&ie=UTF8&ll=40.358285,-76.079142&spn=0.001921,0.003433&t=h&z=18

?WHY? said...

If one of you were on the phone and your 'significant' other started making noises ... Does that justify you hitting them?

Why...Why when its a child does that make it ok?

Sorry, but I was abused as a child and hitting is "NOT" ok. I don't care if it was a slap, it was wrong.

Look At Kate's Face said...

Wow the look on Kate's face! She looks like a real rage-a-holic. Send that woman of mass destruction to Iraq! Let her spank some insurgent butt.

Ms.Peach said...

RachieDough said...
Angel said...
To be perfectly honest, I think that Kate is a pretty terrible mother, but I really don't think that this illustrates that. She spanked her kid. It's well within her rights, and I really think that it's getting blown out of proportion.
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It's blown out of proportion because 1. The Gosselins have made their lives public; 2. Kate is not paying enough attention to her kids, therefore Leah's bad behavior; 3. Kate has promoted herself as supermom who uses time-outs per illustrated on the show; 4. Kate has temper issues and lost control despite her knowledge that paparazzi were shooting her.

Although she was on her property, she insists on being in the front where she is photographed. Basically, when they are in the front, it's fair game for the paps to shoot them (they want to be celebrities, right?) and I think 99% of the time, she's ok with it. But when it's unflattering, she calls the cops. Kate can't have it both ways with the paps. The spanking exposes her as a FRAUD AND SHE KNEW IT.

Catherine said...

Thanks for the scans. She seems to always be pre-occupied with her phone, and it is obvious she doesn't want her kids to bother her. It's really very sad, and it is also sad that even when they finally end this show those poor kids will still have to live with this angry self-absorbed woman.

Barb said...

I have to say that the writer of the In Touch magazine did a very good job with this article. I was surprised at how fair it was.

TandLMommy28 said...

I have no issue with the spanking, although I do think Kate hit Leah out of frustration rather than love and a desire to correct her.

The issue is that poor Leah is going to be an adult someday and she is going to apply to grad school or for a job somewhere and the person doing the interview is going to say "Wait! Aren't you the kid I saw pictures of on every magazine cover in America when your mom spanked you?" THAT is the issue. That Kate has opened up their entire lives to the world and the KIDS, not Kate, will be the ones to truly suffer for it. The damage is done, and it can NEVER be taken back. Leah has to live with this humiliation for the rest of her life. Not the humiliation of being spanked, but the humiliation of the whole world watching it happen.

Reading news said...

Wow, I noticed in the In Touch article there was a pic of another bikini - a pink one - now how did I miss that one?

Team Plus 8 said...

Hitting aside, Maddy and Cara had to parent Leah by taking her behind the house, where the a cameras can't see. Kate didn't comfort her or talk about her behavior to correct it. She just hit in anger and pushed Leah away. Spanking fan or not (I'm not), this incident was bad parenting.

It's no wonder these kids hit each other. I'm not surprised Maddy kicked Alexis without punishment, since that didn't interfere with Kate's agenda.

there'sthepool said...

Gosselin Pool

just wondering said...

Ya know what, Kate?

Get an assistant and you won't have to be on the freaking phone every minute of the day. You had these children because you "always wanted children." Well, you got them in spades, sister.

Now MOTHER them!!

Leah is a 5 year old little girl blowing a whistle OUTSIDE! Excuse the hell out of her if it was interrupting your seemingly neverending phone call. Did you want her to wait until next year to blow it because I haven't seen a picture of you without that bubble gum pink assed phone in months!

I am so over you and your pity party of one. Take your phone, take your show, take your cheap assed ugly hair and get out of my TV.

But don't you touch another one of those children. They do own the house you live in, ya know, and one of these days they may just up and tell you to get the hell out of the home they paid for.

I'll even help you pack.

4girlsoneboy said...

kate'sloose said...
Star Magazine Scans June 29, 2009

QFI and Steve Neild get caught by Mady. Where did Steve sleep at the beach house?
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perhaps this has something to do with the reason the twins suddenly departed North Carolina. How dare this witch put these kids through this hell?

I haven't watched since Jon and Kate's shopping trip to Banana Republic and hope TLC's latest hook to boost ratings won't get those who have stopped watching to return to see what the heck they are talking about. Please, Neilsen people, don't watch next Monday.

I also want to say Shame on Carla and her daughter for continuing to be a part of this tragedy. I am starting to think that some of the people like Beth and Kate's many helpers weren't thrown under the bus - with the exception of Jodi, I think they all walked away from the Gosselins.

Danielle said...

Life & Style Magazine reported that Leah was smacked on the behind not once, but THREE smacks!!
Regardless of what Kate claims, she LOST CONTROL.
I would think that ONE tap on the behind would of gotten Leah's attention.
I personally would of just taken the damn whistle away from her. The physical contact was not necessary, IMO.

ashlee2424 said...

Look at those GUNS! Kate's arms are huge! She doesn't even have to flex to show those muscles. I bet she is very intimidating to those kids.

Now we see why Cara and (esp) Mady are getting so much more mature. They comfort each other after outbursts by "mom" and the numerous other stressful events of their life. Hopefully the kids will remain close since they only seem to have each other.

Just saying said...

I think the reason that Kate and the kids are always in the driveway area is because their favorite thing to do these days is to play with those cars and on their banks. 26 acres or no...smooth pavement is preferred for wheeled vehicles of all kinds. Furthermore, as fun as a pool might be for the kids...I would have thought a long time before moving 8 young children to a house with a pool. To swim with all the kids, you'd need a lot of extra hands and helpers to watch for sinkers (drowning can happen without a sound). I also don't think the pool has a safety fence, but even if it did, pools require constant vigilance. So if it was outside play time. I would definitely prefer being on playground duty out front with the play cars and bikes.

ashlee2424 said...

Oh and more advice to Kate...When wearing a bikini keep your legs closed and down! We've seen enough of your body...parts.

(Page 4)

Michelle1 said...

I only had to look at page one and know that she hits her kids on a regular basis. That child is covering her behind with her hand because she knows what is going to happen.

NerdyNerdenstein said...

I do not practice spanking myself, but I do not wholly object to the practice for people who choose that path. I do, however, enjoy the hypocrisy of the "discipline with love" BS that Kate espouses.

I like that we finally get to see the hitting, rather than the episode at the amusement park where it was clear that one of the girl tups (Alexis?) got smacked in the hand for misbehaving. We see the before and the after, but the smack was edited out.

Thanks for not editing, P People!!

Mystical said...

orchids88 said...
I believe people are responding to (yet again) the hypocrisy of Kate. She repeatedly advocated time outs and talked about disciplining in love instead of anger. Once again, she is shown to be a fraud and a liar."
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Yes, Orchids! You are right. Kate has been fooling fans of the show, and paid participants at her speaking engagements for too long. She even put that falsehood in a book and sold millions of copies. Karma Kate...it's comin' to get you fast and hard.

Michelle1 said...

There is mention of the chairs positioning in the pics. Remember...this is a MULTI car garage. She could have been in front of another section of it.

And by the way. For someone who is so organized, she sure has a messy garage.

GAmom said...

Shame on US magazine for printing a photo of a child where you can see all the way up her dress. Is NO ONE concerned about these kid's privacy and protection?

vane922 said...

Just posted on radar


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/06/radaronlinecom-exclusive-jon-kate-announce-divorce

AnneMarie said...

No surprise there.
No shock there.

So much for Forever.

Goldengirl said...

TLC will end the show when they start filming only Kate and the kids and nobody watches. I think the show jumped the shark two seasons ago and they should have ended it then.

Kate could have gone on to continue her cookbooks, clothing lines, what have you.

Jon could have gotten a new job or a volunteer position and been the at home parent.

They could have divorced quietly.

I know Jon is culpable. But honestly, I really lay the blame for most of this at Kate's feet. She's the one who's kept it in the media, who has talked trash about Jon to the magazines, who has insisted on continuing to film.

Jon said last season he wanted out. And by golly he's gotten himself out.

Even if they split custody, at least the kids will have some time in their life when they don't have to film. Or at least I really pray that Jon says no more filming. Any one have any news on apartments that TLC has rented in the area? That was one of the rumors floating around.

Jon, please, please, PLEASE - take the high road. Grow up, man up and be the father for your kids you are required by God to be.

Kate, please, please PLEASE grow up as well. Take a long hard look at yourself through God's eyes - not the media's, not your press agents, not your producers, but GOD'S - and reevaluate who you are and the type of person HE wants you to be. Be the mother you are required by God to be. (Hopefully you still believe, but neither of you are living a Christian life).

laura linger said...

Whether or not Kate was in her right as a mother to spank her child isn't really the point here.

Kate not only invites the paps to "document" their every move, but insists on staying in her front yard - IN FULL VIEW - for the photographic "memory making."

She has a ginormous backyard in which she and her offspring can respectively talk on the phone and frolic about in. She also has her not-a-nanny there to fill in when she doesn't want to be around her children... something most mothers don't have. There really is no excuse for how she conducts herself.

She wanted all this attention, she asked for all this attention, she flaunts herself to add to the attention... and darned if she didn't get exactly what she wished for.

How I wish the 'sheeple' would stop defending her every wrong-doing. What a waste of energy. Why aren't they stepping up to instead defend these eight precious children who certainly didn't ask for this attention... nor for the selfish, narcisstic parents they received.

Shame on Kate. And shame on TLC for encouraging this monster.

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Agreed 100%. I couldn't cut a word.

Jennifer D said...

Joan said...
Jennifer D said...
Page one:

the very top pic doesn't line up with the other ones. It shows Kate in front of the left side of the garage, sitting in her plastic chair, talking on her phone. Second pic shows the garage in the background and Kate is coming from the right side. The plastic chair in in a different place.

I do not see a whistle.

I do not see Kate's cell phone except for in the first pic, which I have already pointed out doesn't line up.

I highly doubt anyone knows why Kate (seemingly) spanked Leah.
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For some reason it seems you want to prove things are not the way they are pictured.

First of all that is a 3 bay garage. She was sitting on the left side of one doorway (I think the middle one) and walked across another doorway. That is why it looks like she is coming from the right.

Second, they do have more than one white plastic chair.

Third, it looks like the whistle is in the girls hand.

Four, Kate probably set her cell phone down on the chair she was sitting on before she walked over.

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I thank you (and the other three people) that pointed out that i missed the whistle and you are correct about the garage.

I have no reason to prove anything. I tend to think more like a lawyer (it's a curse) and I want to make sure my opinion is not being manipulated.

We keep hearing the story that Leah was blowing a whistle while Kate was on the phone. Then we hear that Kate walked off with her coffee and now we hear that the older girls comforted her.

I want to know how we know this all to be true? What we ~know~ is that Kate was angry and she spanked her kid. We don't know why- do we?

I am frustrated that suddenly tabloids are being treated like the fountains of truth when we prior to this most of us knew they full of lies. Suddenly Star Magazine and the Enquirer are factual?

I think we should stick with what we know. That is bad enough. When we start to asign motives and accept "unnamed sources" as Bible truth we lose credibility. IMHO

Brooke said...

Kate gave whistles away in the kids goody bags at the birthday party. It's kind of funny that it came back to bite her in the butt. Poor Leah though.

Observant Mom said...

I know there are alot of people who don't seem to mind that kate spanked her kid.

But i don't believe it's just about the spanking.

You have to take everything into consideration - the constant yelling, berating, freakouts, hitting - not to mention doing it all in front of millions of people.

That is just so damaging to fragile children.
It's not one thing - it's one after another after another.

This woman clearly is a menace to her kids - it's scary to think what happens behind closed doors.

I don't think she ever bonded with her husband or kids. Her entire relationship has been clinical and scientific - from the beginning, so I really don't think she knows what "love" is or understands how to feel it, show it and express it - and those are all signs of a real self-centered sociopath.

She is destroying those children and their childhood.

LaLa said...

Jennifer D said...
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There were witnesses quoted in the article - they saw, and heard, the whole thing.

Also - go to bauergriffinonline.com you will see the entire sequence (it's out of order) but you can figure it out...hopefully.

Leah had a whistle - mom was on the phone - mom wanted her to stop - child didn't - mom went into a rage - typical - not surprising and it's all caught on film.

Sadly -- the only people doing their jobs nowadays ARE the enquirer and usweekly and the rest of the ragmags....sad...but true dat!

Danielle said...

Kate Pics From Today:
http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/kate-gosselin-keepin-busy-on-the-homefront-214791/

Pony said...

Jennifer said, "I am frustrated that suddenly tabloids are being treated like the fountains of truth when we prior to this most of us knew they full of lies. Suddenly Star Magazine and the Enquirer are factual? "

As much as it pains me to say this, in recent years, Star Magazine has broken a lot of stories - particularly ones pertaining to the "scandalous" extra-marital behavior of people in the public eye. (Think John Edwards). Star has a pretty good track record lately.

ihatethisshow said...

Kate Pics From Today:
http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/kate-gosselin-keepin-busy-on-the-homefront-214791/


who is the young woman carrying the bag? katie irene lookin a little subdued today....everytime i see her with a water bottle, it just makes me want to scream (what happened to being GREEN, kate? another lie.....)

Renee said...

I love how the article explains away her hitting her kids as "cracking under pressure." Yeah right, those of us who have been watching the show since jump have noticed abuse of some sort going on. I specifically remember her pinching Mady hard at Dutch Wonderland and then the camera shot cut away so you didn't see the whole thing... I have no problem believing she's violent.

whistleblower said...

Jennifer D said...
Joan said...
Jennifer D said...
Page one:

the very top pic doesn't line up with the other ones. It shows Kate in front of the left side of the garage, sitting in her plastic chair, talking on her phone. Second pic shows the garage in the background and Kate is coming from the right side. The plastic chair in in a different place.

I do not see a whistle.

I do not see Kate's cell phone except for in the first pic, which I have already pointed out doesn't line up.

I highly doubt anyone knows why Kate (seemingly) spanked Leah.
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For some reason it seems you want to prove things are not the way they are pictured.

First of all that is a 3 bay garage. She was sitting on the left side of one doorway (I think the middle one) and walked across another doorway. That is why it looks like she is coming from the right.

Second, they do have more than one white plastic chair.

Third, it looks like the whistle is in the girls hand.

Four, Kate probably set her cell phone down on the chair she was sitting on before she walked over.

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I thank you (and the other three people) that pointed out that i missed the whistle and you are correct about the garage.

I have no reason to prove anything. I tend to think more like a proctologist (it's a curse) and I want to make sure my opinion is not being manipulated.

We keep hearing the story that Leah was blowing a whistle while Kate was on the phone. Then we hear that Kate walked off with her coffee and now we hear that the older girls comforted her.

I want to know how we know this all to be true? What we ~know~ is that Kate was angry and she spanked her kid. We don't know why- do we?

I am frustrated that suddenly tabloids are being treated like the fountains of truth when we prior to this most of us knew they full of lies. Suddenly Star Magazine and the Enquirer are factual?

I think we should stick with what we know. That is bad enough. When we start to asign motives and accept "unnamed sources" as Bible truth we lose credibility. IMHO

6/18/2009 4:50 PM

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I totally agree. Unless ofcourse these same p-people were the ones that supplied the details for the story. I mean you can watch people and kind of figure out what is going on. So even from a distance if you see or hear, whistles can be loud, a child blowing away on a whistle and a mom talking on the phone, then a spanking etc. you can kind of piece it all together. Maybe it's more attention for Kate and the show and the whole thing is staged. I means she did something that was technically legal but socially frowned upon. So why not do it and get even more magazine covers.

Kallie said...

So what? She's not the first person to spank her child. This is far from the abuse many of you are crying.

And it's not in public. They were on their private property, and it's sleezy paparazzi out there photographing them. Far from being in "public", even if they "knew" they were being watched and photographed.

I think Kate is a pretty bad mom at this point. But not because of this incident.

Jacsamic said...

Wonder who she is going to hit next?

yeaisaidthat said...

Wonder who she is going to hit next?

6/18/2009 6:46 PM

Maybe the question isnt 'who' but what....My guess is something in the form of a bottle preferably named 'Jack'.

Dee said...

To be perfectly honest,I disagree with Angel.It was not within Kate's rights strike her child because she saw fit.What happened was Leah tested her nerves and Kate lost her cool.Was it child abuse?I don't think so.This child is 5 years old and her panties were exposed for all to see.Even if just her own family was present it is still embarrassing for any kid.If people agree that Kate lost her temper and smacked her kid,how are the kids supposed to react when they melt down.Mom is the example and leader.Almost every parent has lost their self control sometime and thank goodness my moments are not on magazine covers.But I would never have the nerve to call it displine.Kate has sunk to a new low.

Kallie said...

Jennifer D said...

I am frustrated that suddenly tabloids are being treated like the fountains of truth when we prior to this most of us knew they full of lies. Suddenly Star Magazine and the Enquirer are factual?


I agree so much. None of us probably gave those magazines much merit before, but now that they're writing about something we've all been writing about for a while here, it's a truth? I don't think so, and I still don't.

One thing that has been bothering me is the amount of conspiracy theories going on here... "Oh, Kate planned it so she would get on the front cover again!" Please. :\

I don't blame Kate for spanking her child on their private property. That won't embarrass Leah when she's older. The fact that the tabloids published this is the only thing that might.

cdnmom47 said...

I worry more about the emotional abuse that Kate dishes out to these kids more than the physical.

The bruises these kids have on their souls from her constant negativity and lack of compassion are what concern me. Those bruises are the hardest to live with...and the most difficult to heal...they'll carry them for a lifetime, unfortunately.

Renee said...

ITA. In order to be a good parent, a good nurturer, one must be able to give of oneself. Kate isn't a giver, she's a taker. It's all about Kate all the time.

Ask not what you can do for your children, ask what your children can do for you. LOL (but not really cause this is effed up).

fidosmommy said...

I'm hoping the big announcement is that Sprint has cancelled their cell phone account.

TUNDRA said...

cdnmom47 said...
I worry more about the emotional abuse that Kate dishes out to these kids more than the physical.

The bruises these kids have on their souls from her constant negativity and lack of compassion are what concern me. Those bruises are the hardest to live with...and the most difficult to heal...they'll carry them for a lifetime, unfortunately.

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Well said, I could not agree more!

Shame on Kate for not protecting her children (in this case Leah) from ending up on the front cover of a tabloid magazine. Yes, she spanked her kid on private property but that private property is also a set for a reality tv show. Kate had to know there were PAPS lurking about hoping to win the lottery (aka "The Money Shot"). Kate disgusts me. I will not excuse her behavior because it happened on "private property". That's not an excuse IMO.

Momof2 said...

Just posted on radar


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/06/radaronlinecom-exclusive-jon-kate-announce-divorce
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..they removed it. TLC probably asked them to because if people knew they wouldn't tune in. RATINGS

cdnmom47 said...

To spank or not to spank is really not the issue.

One thing for sure is that no matter what kind of discipline you are handing out to your child, it shouldn't be done in anger...PERIOD.

It's obvious that Kate's 'discipline' (as SHE called it) was doled out with pure, unadulterated anger. That's proven by the fact that she did it more as a REACTION than a planned, thought out punishment.

The fact that it was done in anger is really where the problem lies. It shows that she can be dangerous when she's upset...she reacts with violence toward those kids...and I doubt very much that it was the first time.

The Other Ashley said...

The story on Radar about the "big announcement" (divorce) is still on their site. TLC cant tell them to take it off.

Violette said...

My biggest thing about the phone pictures -I see parents ALL the time, everywhere I go, talking on the phone with their children in tow. Children saying "mommy mommy mommy" over and over, as their parents ignore them to be on the phone instead of with their children. There have been some great articles about how this generation of kids are being orphaned by their parents, because adults can't get off the phone and be with their family - out shopping, at the dinner table, in the car. Kate is no different than millions of other mothers in this regard, she's just getting photographed doing it.

The part of the spanking pictures that bothers me most is that, this isn't just a passing swat on the butt of admonishment. Kate took the time to pull up Leah's dress, and swat her bare legs. That was a calculated move in order to inflict pain, not just to make a point of punishment.

Here's the thing - we all know this family is broken. Lots and lots of families are. The difference is, I don't think anyone would want their own occasional bad behavior or arguments with family members, or outbursts we later regret, out in public. These adults consciously chose to have their children's lives sold for money, and even as things went from bad to worse they not only chose not to protect their privacy, they turned up the spotlight so that everyone would see every single flaw.

Shame on America for watching this and for encouraging this kind of behavior by buying what John and Kate have effectively sold - their children's lives. The damage is done, even when Jon and Kate disappear into irrelevance there will be other families getting on the gravy train to take their place.

TUNDRA said...

Personally I didn't hold out much hope for Jon and Kate staying together. If that was going to happen, I think we'd have seen some sort of public display of affection by now instead of TLC sending Kate flowers for her 10th wedding anniversary while Jon was nowhere to be seen on the homefront.

janet said...

I have to say, I am more bothered by the pictures than the spanking itself....what kind of mother (or father) puts her (or his) children in the position where there would be up-skirt pictures on the internet and magazines?! I'm just so sad and concerned for these kids...

cherier1 said...

I can't stand to see how sad the twins look in the various picts. It makes me sick.

Amigo22 said...

I wish people would stop referring to Kate as a "Supermom" or "Mother of the Year". She is NEITHER of those.

I was spanked as a kid, and often it was out of anger and not that I'd actually done anything worthy of punishment. Now as an adult I am 100% against it.

The incident happened outside of the garage, surely she could have stepped inside the garage to finish the conversation while Cara and Mady watched the kids, if the phone call was so important that she couldn't possibly ask to call back later. Or if she herself was making the actual call, then what did she expect, making a phone call at a time when her EIGHT kids are playing together in the SAME ROOM is freaking stupid.

And if she can't handle the kids playing with noisy toys, why even GIVE them such toys?

MartaLou said...

This morning I had my TV on a cable news channel. The program hostess interviewed a popular television psychologist (whose name escapes me) regarding Kate. She showed the spanking photos and the film clip of Kate denying Mady a drink of water. The reporter then asked the psychologist if a child would be damaged as a result of being spanked by his or her mother. The psychologist responded, that first of all, Kate is not a mother...she just plays one on TV for her own profit. Secondly, it was his opinion that no spanking will ever begin to compare to the lasting damage that is being done to these children by forcing them to participate in this show, and that all of the children will probably require years of psychological help at some point in their future.

This was a eureka moment for me. I have been deeply troubled by this program after watching the way Kate treats both her children and her husband. Now I realize that the psychologist is right, and that the root of my anguish is the fact that Kate is not a mother and she's not a wife. She's just a woman who uses the people around her as props for her own gain.

My prayers will always be with these 8 children that they may somehow survive having such an abusive, unloving woman in their lives.

Kallie said...

I don't remember where it was said but someone made a good point. When you're a parent, you have to sometimes times just say to whoever you are talking to "Oh! I have to go!" because of your kids.

It's funny, because if you watch the old intro they even show Kate doing that. Granted, she wasn't on the phone as much (that was a "teenagerish" habit, as I recall), but it shows that she was still, yanno, a mother. That stuff just happens and you deal with it.

Now she can't be arsed to get off of her phone, unless there's discipline necessary. :\

Just Hang A Sign On Her said...

Reading news said...
Wow, I noticed in the In Touch article there was a pic of another bikini - a pink one - now how did I miss that one?

6/18/2009 2:07 PM
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All I noticed at this late hour with my bleary eyesight is that it looks like YET AGAIN another crotch shot but, this time, at a pool...ugh. Yuck.

Monica said...

I have always had a suspicion that Kate isn't that loving when camera is off. I got that feeling from Maddy's behaviors.

In earlier episodes, Kate seems to still behave like a mother who likes her children a lot. But I have always felt she is faking it for the camera so Maddy likes to push Kate's button and test her mother when the camera is around, because Maddy knows she will be safe and her mom can't touch her.

I know so because my parents used to make us pretend we were one happy family in front of people. My parents treated me and my brothers totally different in front of friends and relatives, they suddenly became very loving and kind. Behind the door, my parents didn't get along, they were going to separate. My parents certainly yelled at us a lot and were annoyed by us. Even though we didn't do anything bad. In some strange way, I knew my parents were lying to people and I couldn't stand the hypocrisy, I pushed my parents' button in front of friends and relatives.

Come to think of it. I start to like Maddy. I used to think she was annoying now I see that she is the only kid who dares to stand to Kate. Kids at Maddy's age know exactly what's going on. They are sensitive and smart.

Amigo22 said...

I don't remember where it was said but someone made a good point. When you're a parent, you have to sometimes times just say to whoever you are talking to "Oh! I have to go!" because of your kids.

It's funny, because if you watch the old intro they even show Kate doing that.

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Yeah, though that was when one of the boys fell and hurt himself.

But you're right, that's what she should do regardless of the situation or person she's talking to. And having your on TV show and books, doing speaking engagements, TV / magazine interviews etc, EVERYONE knows Kate is a mother of eight - so it's not like the person on the other line wouldn't be understanding if she has to call them back in 10 minutes or later in the day.

Also for the "pro spanking" people out there, I'm sure the link would have been posted here already but a few days ago I saw an article quoting former staff of the Gosselins, and one of the things they said was that Kate punished one of the boys by whacking him not once but like FIVE OR SIX TIMES with the red spoon.

And while we all wonder happens to the kids when the cameras aren't rolling, what about when they ARE rolling and production crew are present? Just because they edit out all the "worst moments", (and I'm sure there are A LOT of them) doesn't mean they don't happen!

TLC are as bad as Kate is - they are WELL AWARE of the damage they and the show are doing but they choose to go on with it.

Nomes said...


Blogger Momof2 said...

Just posted on radar


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/06/radaronlinecom-exclusive-jon-kate-announce-divorce
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..they removed it. TLC probably asked them to because if people knew they wouldn't tune in. RATINGS


No they didn't, that link just doesn't work - go to the homepage and it's on there (the link).

chesterctymom said...

Anonymous Kallie said...

I don't remember where it was said but someone made a good point. When you're a parent, you have to sometimes times just say to whoever you are talking to "Oh! I have to go!" because of your kids.

It's funny, because if you watch the old intro they even show Kate doing that. Granted, she wasn't on the phone as much (that was a "teenagerish" habit, as I recall), but it shows that she was still, yanno, a mother. That stuff just happens and you deal with it.

But she didn't have a cool pink phone back then...

Concerned said...

Here is the Pennsylvania Code on child abuse, which I found interesting:
"Parents can use reasonable supervision and control when raising their children. 23 § 6302. [Civil Code] Parent/guardian/person responsible for general care and supervision/ person acting at request of the above may use force for the purpose of safeguarding or promoting welfare of minor including the prevention or punishment of his misconduct, if the force is not designed to cause or known to create a substantial risk of causing death, serious bodily injury, disfigurement, extreme pain, mental distress, or gross degradation. 18 § 509. [Criminal Code]"

Could the fact that Kate knowingly used force in front of the paparazzi be considered gross degradation?

ForeverHopeful said...

It is very clear that what "Kate writes" in her books does NOT coincide with her actions.

I think Kate wants us all to believe that she actually IS the woman of those books, but incidents such as this one clearly show that she's not.

Kate! Nice try at deceiving us, but we are smarter than you realize.

I really feel sad for the children who started out as the reason for this whole show and now are merely footnotes.

SAD.

ForeverHopeful said...

I've been thinking why Kate would REPEATEDLY have her children playing out front of her home in view of ANYONE-- photographers of just passers-by-- in light of all that has been going on as of late.

Here's what I've been able to come up with:

1) The kids like to ride their bikes and motorized vehicles. Kate can watch them AND talk on her phone if they are on the paved area.

2) The chances of the kids getting DIRTY are less on pavement than if they were in the grass out back. We all know how dirty grass can be! Of course the kids still can get scrapes, but Kate's a nurse, and she DOES have her trusty aloe plant to rub on boo-boos.

3) The dogs are probably out back or, if they aren't with the children, they are probably in their crates. Remember: All dogs BELONG in crates according to Kate. (And, by the way, German Shepherds LOVE to be with their families! Why do we NEVER see the children with the dogs? Our German Shepherd goes where we go and LOVES being with us! It makes me SO SAD to think that MAYBE those sweet dogs really ARE in their crates! SHUDDER!!!)

4) Maybe cell phone reception is better out front.

5) Kate has REPEATEDLY said that she really doesn't CARE what people think of her. Maybe she's trying to show her skill at CHILD CONTROL and OBEDIENCE. Kate places a very high premium on control and obedience!

Sharon said...

I want to appologize for saying that the fans on FB are dropping like flys, they are not. It turns out that for some reason you can't post over there. So there have been thousands of comments on earlier posts. And, these people are crazier than ever. I was so hoping that people were starting to see the real Kate. They are not. Or, they must be people that are being paid by kate because it baffles me that they still hold her in such high esteem. As I'm writing this I am shaking my head.

bcsurvivor2001 said...

Nomes said...

Blogger Momof2 said...

Just posted on radar


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/06/radaronlinecom-exclusive-jon-kate-announce-divorce
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..they removed it. TLC probably asked them to because if people knew they wouldn't tune in. RATINGS

No they didn't, that link just doesn't work - go to the homepage and it's on there (the link).
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As of 11:32 am EST (time I'm posting this) - it is still there. Why Radaronline has the "exclusive" is anyone's guess - but whatever.

lovemysons said...

The issue of spanking or not spanking is a very controversial one. I read a lot of these posts that say Kate spanking Leah is being made bigger than what it is.

In actuality, what's being blown out of proportion is the fact that here we have a 5 year old, who's OUTSIDE playing with a whistle. To smack a child for having a whistle is ridiculous. She had so many options to this situation. And to discipline a child in anger is wrong in so many ways. My heart breaks every time I see these pictures. The look on poor Leah's face is not something I can erase from my mind. It's a whistle. If Kate smacks her for having a whistle, I can't imagine what the discipline is for a more serious offense. The thought is actually very frightening.

luvthekids said...

lovemysons said...
The issue of spanking or not spanking is a very controversial one. I read a lot of these posts that say Kate spanking Leah is being made bigger than what it is.

In actuality, what's being blown out of proportion is the fact that here we have a 5 year old, who's OUTSIDE playing with a whistle. To smack a child for having a whistle is ridiculous. She had so many options to this situation. And to discipline a child in anger is wrong in so many ways. My heart breaks every time I see these pictures. The look on poor Leah's face is not something I can erase from my mind. It's a whistle. If Kate smacks her for having a whistle, I can't imagine what the discipline is for a more serious offense. The thought is actually very frightening.~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I agree. I posted this earlier but was not put on which is ok since I was so angry about little Leah, that I did not spell check or make any sense. Am glad someone said it better. And the person they consulted said a child under 7 can be physically harmed by spanking. The same as a baby being shook. Their little bodies are not developed and a larger person hitting them even with just a flat hand can do real damage. Look at her face. She is so angry. As someone else pointed out, she gave them whistles at the BD party. She has a temper and reacts in an instant when someone crosses her. That is why it's so scary that she may be the only parent taking care of them now. And is not a nanny gone since someone pointed out their hair is no longer done in that cute way? Kate. Here is a tip for your book on parenting. Engage brain first.

wendyzr said...

Oh, Kate. Nothing you do is private when you invite the cameras along, not even discipline.

6/18/2009 10:13 AM
Anonymous RachieDough said...

Angel said...
To be perfectly honest, I think that Kate is a pretty terrible mother, but I really don't think that this illustrates that. She spanked her kid. It's well within her rights, and I really think that it's getting blown out of proportion.
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Well said, I 100% agree. That family has enough darn problems, this isn't one of them.


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I don't have SUCH a problem with the spanking itself but it should be LAST RESORT after other efforts are made and warnings. There is a difference with corporal punishment and just hitting your kid cuz you're pissed. She lost control and she could have handled it better.
I have spanked my daughter in the past but can't remember the last time I did. I try so many other things before the THREAT of a spanking. And it works. I do not have to tell her again after she has been in time out. IF it were to happen again after time out THEN you warn. THEN you can use it. And that is when you have little patience. You can have a couple of time outs before that.

She showed lack of control and patience by just doing it. HOW is that defended?

wendyzr said...

If there are those out there who do use corporal punishment, I have to assume that if you are in a public place you take the child to a private area or bathroom and handle it. Her FRONT YARD with paps everywhere is a public place. At the VERY LEAST, the very least she could have done that.

I am flabbergasted that people here are defending it and actually saying it is a private matter. SHE MADE IT A PUBLIC MATTER.

bcsurvivor2001 said...

wendyzr said...
If there are those out there who do use corporal punishment, I have to assume that if you are in a public place you take the child to a private area or bathroom and handle it. Her FRONT YARD with paps everywhere is a public place. At the VERY LEAST, the very least she could have done that.

I am flabbergasted that people here are defending it and actually saying it is a private matter. SHE MADE IT A PUBLIC MATTER.
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While I semi-agree with you - where I differ is the fact that their front lawn "should" be private in my opinion. Yes - there are known paps around (unfortunately). BUT - and I hesitate to even write this - BUT it IS their home and NOT a public place. Should they be flaunting stuff under the noses of the cameras? No. But again - it is their home and they should not be dictated to play in the back vs. the front just cuz there are nosey people trying to make a buck off them either.

TUNDRA said...

Personally I don't believe Kate and Jon bought the McMansion to please and/or appease Jon. I think they bought it to continue riding the gravy train.

PR in PA said...

These people truly truly make me sick..as well as TLC!!!

wendyzr said...

bcsurvivor2001 said...

wendyzr said...
If there are those out there who do use corporal punishment, I have to assume that if you are in a public place you take the child to a private area or bathroom and handle it. Her FRONT YARD with paps everywhere is a public place. At the VERY LEAST, the very least she could have done that.

I am flabbergasted that people here are defending it and actually saying it is a private matter. SHE MADE IT A PUBLIC MATTER.
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While I semi-agree with you - where I differ is the fact that their front lawn "should" be private in my opinion. Yes - there are known paps around (unfortunately). BUT - and I hesitate to even write this - BUT it IS their home and NOT a public place. Should they be flaunting stuff under the noses of the cameras? No. But again - it is their home and they should not be dictated to play in the back vs. the front just cuz there are nosey people trying to make a buck off them either.

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The only difference between her front yard and an outdoor mall is well.....NOTHING. You don't hold your ground saying "well it is MY damn property and I'll do what I want"

She was in public.

The definition of public is
"exposed to general view"

It is a private matter in that it needs to be done out of view as not to make it worse on the child. Intentionally embarrassing a child is IMO psychological abuse. AND you don't want to make others uncomfortable that may disagree with your methods. Should be done out of general view.

First and foremost, she HIT her child out of anger. In every way it was handled poorly.

Harriet said...

I don't consider my front yard private and do nothing there that isn't acceptable to be viewed by the neighbors because usually it will be.

Kate knew there were paps there and still couldn't control her temper. That is not a good sign for those kids.

pumibel said...

"can honestly say that if my child were using a whistle to make noise while I was on the phone, and the child had been warned once, and continued to be noisy, then I'd walk over and ask for the whistle. In our house, you lose privileges and toys for misbehavior."

I agree- I have taken countless noise makers from my daughter for such things. It really is that easy.

delilahboyd said...

Monica said...

I have always had a suspicion that Kate isn't that loving when camera is off. I got that feeling from Maddy's behaviors.

*****

I agree! I've known several women who LOVE their babies and grow more and more distant as the babies mature.

I used to think Mady was The Bad Seed. Now I see that she's smart enough to know that her mother was always looking to better deal her and Cara... and Jon, as well.

The babies aren't little now, and it seems that Kate is using her "fame" (trans. infamy) to better deal them, too.

And I have just one thing to say to all of those "concern trolls" out there: there's play time and there's work/phone time; Kate should know the difference by now.

Daydream Believer said...

Here is a bigger question, If Kate hated the whistle blowing fine. But who gave or allowed the five yr old to have the whistle in the first place? I know when I was a bit short tempered with my children, I tried not to let them have something that wold get under my skin at that moment. Otherwise, you need to let them be kids, make noise and have fun. After all they are children, not working actors. Oh wait, we re talking about the Gosselins, not your average family.

Candymom said...

Comment to Jennifer D. My kids and I were going to an eye exam that day, and we have to pass thier house to get there,since we live close to thier house. And we seen the whole thing with Kate. It did happen. It was a nice day out on Saturday, so we had our windows rolled down, and you could hear everthing. The speed limit is 40 on that road, but there were so many cars that day, you were going at the most 20 miles an hour. So, you could hear the whistle blowing. And you have to see how the garage is set up to understand about the plastic chair. As for the police being there, I do think it was because people were driving by blocking the road. When we returned from the exam at 3;00, there was an officer sitting in his car, in thier driveway. Just thought you'd like this information.

cdnmom47 said...

Don't know if this was posted before, but this seems interesting...wonder how much fact is behind it???

From Matt Heckman's blog:

With the most recent photos that developed showing Kate Gosselin hitting her daughter Leah, and refusing to give Mady water, it turns out that The District Attorney may conduct an investigation against Kate Gosselin for Child Abuse, Child Neglect, and possibly Assault on a minor child under the age of 12.

A source in The District Attorney’s Office who asked to remain anonymous as this alleged investigation is in its early stages mentioned that The District Attorney’s Office is prepared to issue subpoenas if necessary against Kate Gosselin’s inner circle as well as staff and producers for TLC. The short list of possible people that could be subpoenaed is as follows.
Jennifer Stocks
Beth Carson
Jodi Kreider
Kevin Kreider
Cara Gosselin
Madelyn Gosselin

Now you will notice that Cara and Mady Gosselin are on this list, and according to this source they strongly believe that the twins are old enough to handle themselves to testify on a stand if need be. Allegedly The DA plans to play hard ball with these subpoenas that if they refuse to testify they will be found in contempt. Officially The District Attorney’s Office will neither confirm nor deny that any such investigation is in progress.

http://mheckman.berksblognet.com/2009/06/18/berks-county-district-attorney-to-investigate-kate-gosselin/

Paula Hortan said...

Clearly Kate "did not envision" those cuddly, warm, sweet babies growing up into little individual people that would be there always, growing up more and more.

Can you imagine her with 8 teens, each needing their parent's individual attention. How can Kate deal with that? I can't see her doing it at all.

Connan M said...

Momof2 said...
Does she see how juvenile and self absorbed she is with all the photos with her on the pink phone....a mother of 8...a GOOD mother does not have that many opportunities to be gabbing on a cell phone while her very young kids are frolicking in a pool. Good thing she has OTHER people watching out for the safety and well being of those kids.

6/18/2009 10:32 AM
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Who in the world does she talk to so often? She has no family or friends left, does she?

Is it all business? The Christian women are beginning to see her for what she is too. That phone should be making less and less calls, not more.

She wants it all... said...

Kate obviously WANTS her life to be public. She has an enormous house, a huge piece of property, even a BACK YARD!

She chooses to spend her time out in front where she knows she is being watched. She wants it, the good, the bad, and the ugly. She is such a stooge.

BGR said...

As a parent, I have had my moments of reacting in anger to something my children have done and, unfortunately, hitting unwisely as I think Kate did to Leah. The difference is that Kate and Leah now have this moment preserved into the future. This incident is just one more negative consequence of the decision the Gosselins made to televise their life and the lives of their children.

The other difference between my private mistakes and Kate's is that I have felt genuine pain and remorse for my parenting mistakes. Kate's statement reveals an entitlement to do what she did and was for public relations purposes only. The words she chose reveal no concern for Leah at all. In my opinion, this is just one more example of these parents putting the children a distant second to fame and fortune.

TUNDRA said...

Seems to me Kate does a lot of things with no apparent awareness nor concern for the consequences of her actions.

I'm sorry but where I come from a lady knows to keep her legs closed when in public view.

Kate's bikini-clad "crotch shot" seen 'round the world and by her own children for pity's sake (In Touch Weekly, Page 39) is just another example of why I won't watch the show nor buy any of the products advertised on it.

Enough is enough. The Gosselins and TLC need to get a divorce from each other!!!

amyinbc said...

Kate, stop beating the children and put the damned phone down once in awhile. Enough said.

J Wise said...

I used to be a fan of the show, back in the days when Kate was thrify, wore sweats, only purchased if she had a coupon, lived modestly. Now she is a monster, the whole family is a mess and it is sad to see how material she has gotten, and pays absolutely no attention to those kids unless they are making her money while filming episodes. I cant even watch it anymore. This family is airing their dirty laundry to the public weekly on TV and almost daily through the tabloids. All Jon & Kate do is complain non-stop about the media attention they get, etc. WELL, YOU DID PUT YOURSELF ON TELEVISION, YOU DO WRITE BOOKS, ETC. You wanted this fame and fortune, YOU GOT IT. If you don't like it, then stop filming the show and stop writing books! But you won't because you are money hungry and you couldn't stand to go back to the real world where people work to make a living! Your kids bought that brand new white sports car, they bought your new house, your vacations, their toys, etc. You have no family that likes you and even the fans are beginning to hate you. I cant wait until your show falls apart!

AuK said...

@MartaLou

The psychologist responded, that first of all, Kate is not a mother...she just plays one on TV for her own profit.

ROTFL! That is the best description ever. So very true.

Lexie said...

I was trying to figure out why a mother would hate her kids so much that she hardly pays attention to them unless it benefits her. The only kind of explanation I can come up with is that none of the kids look like Kate. While I don't understand it, I can see where it would be a lot harder to bond with a child who didn't resemble you. Especially when the resemblance is of someone you seem to hate so much, Jon. In fact, that might be why Kate lashed out so badly at Leah. Shes angry at Jon and can't do anything about it and Leah pushed her buttons just right. That also might be why shes changed so much. The fame doesn't help but with the increasing hatred of Jon comes a subconscious dislike of the kids. The fact that they clearly like Jon more doesn't help matters either.
I don't think it would be a big leap to assume that she doesn't even want the kids around anymore. Money sure does help though...
what a horrible womman.

jayley said...

To Lexie, I appreciate your thoughtful post. There are many points I can agree with you on ... but.. there are millions of adoptive families that love and bond immediatly with their children. I'm sure any adoptive mother could confirm with me that it does not matter one bit whether or not your child looks like you. IMO Kates problems are far more reaching than that. Our society expects mothers to be nurturing and loving. Kate never fit the bill and sadly there are many other people just like her. It's a sad fact of life.

happymom said...

Great insight, Jaylie. I'm an adoptive parent with a beautiful 10 year daughter who was born in Korea. She and I look nothing alike, but people always remark how much we are the same in our mannerisms, humor, etc. We bonded from the moment we laid eyes on each other -- when she was seven months old, no less. Kate has no clue how to be a mother to her kids -- pure and simple. It has nothing to do with looks. It starts with the heart.

sparkle said...

The problem with the Gosselins ( and lots of the rest of us) is that they are too concerned with money. I think if I were raising that many kids, I'd be pretty happy to get $50,000 to $75,000 per episode. And at 100 episodes -- that's $5,000,000. Of course, that's not counting the freebies they've received. Also, I think that actually seeing himself on TV, and coping with the inevitable razzing from his friends,, co-workers, etc., Jon realized his real situation. Every time he doubts himself, all he has to do is watch a past episode to remind himself of why he wants to leave.
That said, I think they aren't s terrible parents. They sent the kids to time-outs, which I seldom did. They kept the house and kids clean and did the basic stuff,. They were both basically loving, I think. I grew up in a big, crazy family and we couldn't have survived filming even a few episodes without big-time repercussions and there's no way my parents could have stayed together under such scrutiny.My mother driticized my dad all the time and my dad wasn't half as involoved and helpful as Jon.
Having had a far from ideal childhood, at least I can say it's not out there for all the world to see.That's the real problem with this particular reality show -- it's little kids' real life. It would by mortifying to have had to see my parents relationship on screen. Sparkle

ImmortalBeloved1918 said...

I always like to try and see all sides of an issue before I make any kind of opinions. I have been a fan of the show since it started and like everyone else I have witnessed it turn into something very different from what it started out to be.

I think it's quite obvious that both Jon and Kate have lost sight of what is most important in life. The family they created together.

Kate is clearly more focused on her next "career" move and all things related. She has always claimed she does what she does for her children but it's really hard for me to believe that continuing to drag your children all over hell when you have already made a small fortune is what is best for them.

Jon seems to be focused on establishing some sort of independence from Kate and comes across as a stubborn kid. The earrings, the juvenile t-shirts. Hanging out with women much yonger than him. He seems to be having an early mid-life crisis. This is what you get when you supress your anger for years and let your wife wear the pants and control everything. He should have stood up to her long ago.

They are certainly NOT the people we met on the first episode.

And then there's the kids.

I don't think spanking your child on the bottom with a flat open hand makes you a bad mother. I don't think it means your children are in danger or that child services should pay you a visit.

A spanking is the least of their problems.

I think this whole thing has become so very sad and I hope that others can learn from it and perhaps think twice before they go down the same road.