Free Discussion 6/20 - 6/26

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Jennifer said...

Two new cars! Just saw her new Land Cruiser and I read Jon drove home a BMW from New York.

LadyRed said...

So how many cars do they have now between the two of them? Poor kids, Kate said they have to 'earn' cars themselves when they are of age.

just wondering said...

Yeah.. I read that's why she was at the bank twice last week.

Someone suggested that their lawyers may be advising them to spend money so they don't have to split as much. I don't know.. I've never had a divorce.

Heck.. I don't even think I've ever had a lawyer, either..

Julie said...

About the Crooked Houses. One thing that made me sad is it seems like Jon would be more than capable of doing a project with Cara and Mady to build fun playhouses for them.

Look at the Roloffs and their fam. Those kids are all very hands on with their parents, and their skills shw. And those kids always talk about the great memories their parents have b=given them when tinkering with a car, pumpkin season, building things, clearing land.

I think the Gosselin kids will not have a clue as to what to do when later in life things don't arrive gift wrapped with a bow, completely assembled and a film crew to capture their "surprise" at their new gifts.

Thank you, Matt and Amy, Jim Bob and MIchelle, for teaching your kids valuable skills, both socially and at home. They have all learned good trades and realize life isn't handed to you on a silver platter with a silver spoon...

Sorry, my venting for the night is now complete!

gracie said...

I visited the listing page for the E-Town house and the page says the house is no longer on the market. I wonder if someone bought it or they took it off the market due to it not selling/

just wondering said...

I think the stupid crooked houses were bought to keep the kids out of the house! Lord knows Kate doesn't want them in "Her's!! All HER'S" house.

just wondering said...

concerned wife and mommy said...
Not sure if this is the right place, but I subscribe to "HARO," which stands for "Help a Reporter Out." It's an email list that goes out a few times a day where reporters can ask for sources to help them with their articles - good for promoting small business.

Anyway, this was in this evening's email:

2)Summary: Child Psychology Expert needed

Name: Gretchen Parker

Category: General

Email: gretchenparker@avantguild.com

Title: reporter

Media Outlet: Us Weekly

Specific Geographic Region: N

Region:

Deadline: 05:06pm PACIFIC - 19 June

Query:

I'm looking for an expert in child psychology or someone who could talk
about the effect of young children seeing their parents' marriage woes
aired on reality TV.

************

Well, I sure hope they find one with a big mouth and a lot of credentials!!

so irritated said...

just wondering said: "Her kind of child rearing advice does not need to be heard by another single woman."


So true. Khate is not a typical soon to be divorcee. Her staff, mansion and shiny new vehicle exclude her from what real life single moms face. If she tries to write a book about this, what will she advise? Cut back to one nanny instead of 3? Date your bodyguard so you no longer need to pay him? Lease your $65,000 Land Cruiser instead of buying it? Bleh. Wish she would just go away.

JsMom said...

I just looked at the Crooked Houses blog. How many houses did the Gosselins get? The blog shows four. I noticed Cara's name was on one. Did she get her own house? Two for the tups and one each for Mady and Cara maybe? Anyone know?

Grace said...

The E-Town house is still up on the website. Listed for $315K.

AnneMarie said...

A thought popped into my head in the middle of a workout today, well yesterday, the "big announcement" has already been taped, whatever idiotic thing it is. Therefor, no matter what it IS, it is being saved soley for the show, SOLEY for the ratings. I don't care what it IS, that's SICK.

Family drama for the almighty dollar.

I also cannot wrap my head around the way they are tossing money around, and on idiotic things. How many cars do you need? They're still considered assests.

The goofy play houses, and they play in the driveway.

The all the spa trips.

And heavan only knows what Jon is blowing it on.

Insane.

AnneMarie said...

another reason popped into my head, forgive me it's 5am, but another point on the calculated delivery of "separation/divorce" news that may be coming on monday......She's been signing things, books and that fugly scooter, KATE PLUS 8, NOT Jon and Kate plus 8, NOT Kate.......

no surprise, no shocker...just a hold out for ratings.

There is simply no other reason to hold out.

Otherwise, announce it, get it out in the media, and BE DONE WITH IT!

ForeverHopeful said...

Just Wondering:

You make an EXCELLENT POINT about the crooked houses--

Yes! Kate has often said, "It's ALL MINE!" as she refers to HER house!

She obviously wants to recapture all she missed in her own childhood. None of any of this is "for her kids!"

And YES!!! If the kids have their own playhouses, they will be out of HER house!

ForeverHopeful said...

Also--Just Wondering--

About the buying stuff to spend money so there's not as much to split after a divorce-

Makes sense!

Of course that will become yet ANOTHER thing that obviously is for the PARENTS and NOT the KIDS!

No matter which way you look at it, those eight kids are getting SCREWED!

ForeverHopeful said...

Where's Jon?

Kate's front and center (What a SURPRISE!!!), but Jon...

Where is he?

Chocobi said...

This is rehashing old news, but I have to say the first thing I thought of when I saw little Leah "posing" in that shot on the beach in NC was that she'd been watching "Toddlers and Tiaras" on TLC. Ah, the things people of all ages can learn from "The Learning Channel"!

Missy F. said...

Gee, just looked up the new Landcruiser at my local dealership, totals 75,000. So glad she has so much money to drop on this gas guzzler!!

You reap what you sow. I truly do not feel sorry for this family. They wanted the easy life and freebies, now they got it. Enjoy your new life apart. AMEN.

Guilty pleasure said...

What do you think of the pictures showing Jon smoking a joint? They seem a little contrived to me, but nothing surprises me anymore with these 2.

MBach said...

Maybe the spending spree is to not only eat up as much cash on hand as possible, but also because they see fewer oportunities to pile up "their" MONEY. Oh, it is so sickening to understand how they received all their loot-off the lives of their children, and the scandalizing of their marriage.

The love of money is the root of all evil. Jon and Kate/Hate have proved over and over that they love money over their children. So, if their gravy train might truely be detrailing -please, oh please- then they have to grab all the material things possible.

Sort of like a panicky rat on a sinking ship running around with a mouth full of grain from the store below.

Look out Jon and Kate/Hate! Here comes a flood of disapproval!

Please DO NOT WATCH THE SHOW!

TooSadToWatch said...

Interesting that next week's show is listed as a compilation of past episodes. I am still hopeful that the show is over (I know...overly optimistic!!). At least the kids get one week off from filming, anyway!

organizedblogroll said...

The way those two IDIOTS are spending, the lawyers will end up with their last penny, and the kids will end up with N O T H I N G.

OH, and KATE, way to go GREEN!!!!

marylou said...

According to Realtor.com, their Elizabethtown home is still on the market.

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/2190-Andrew-Avenue_Elizabethtown_PA_17022_1107599099

greedygosselins said...

Family in turmoil my a** ! Seems to me that J & K's priorities right now are clearly evident by their purchasing of new boobs, new cars, and custom designed motorcycles.
ALL for the children. Whatever!!!

DrG said...

I am an expert (Ph.D.)in Child Psychology, now retired. The damage being done to these children simply cannot be measured. The over exposure of private lives cannot possibly lead to any good outcomes.

I remember being jealous of the Dionne quintuplets when I was growing up (in Canada). They had beautiful clothes, new bicycles, opportunities to go places and meet famous people (including the King and Queen), etc. Pictures and magazine/newpaper articles depicted tham as leading a fabulous life. Little did I know as a child that they would grow up to be unsucessful at life. They blew their trust funds, and the three who survived to middle age felt entitled to support from the Canadian government (which they were granted).

The issues with regard to the Gosselins are not Kate's hair color, manner of dress, etc., but the helplessness of these children in the face of the very public exposure and the violation of their personal boundaries for the financial gain necessary for them to lead their very distorted and "unreal" lives.

FormerlyfromPA said...

So glad I found this blog a few months ago. Great job moderators.

Rather than repeat what others find distasteful about this show, I'd like to comment on archived footage/reports from the local central PA area. I get so annoyed with all the tabloid journalism, which seems rampant these days. So I've been trying to dig deeper at the websites of local newspapers and TV stations.

WGALTV in Lancaster did a video report of the Gosselins as the sextuplets approached their 1st birthday. It can be found at wgal.com/video/4468541/index.html.

Maybe I'm over reacting, but I was very alarmed at how Kate picked up the babies from a "laying flat on their back" position, by grabbing them by one arm. If I recall correctly, this was done at least twice in that short report.

Ironically, at the very end of the report, Kate grabs a small doll from the counter in front of one of the twins the same way.

I'm convinced Kate has always considered these children to be dolls/props/robots. I pray Jon's legal team is digging deep for all the "evidence" that's out there to support who's the better parent of the two.

pinkdiamond611 said...

Back from my weekly grocery shopping trip. The Kons are not on any of the covers of the tabloids except In Touch that has all the pictures of spankgate. I guess this will all change next week. I would love if one of the tabloids could find out how much the Kons have raked in these past years, cash plus freebies, and how much they have spent. I have a sick feeling that there will be nothing left for the kids after this thing implodes.

won't work for it said...

This is what people do that come into money quickly and easily. They start spending like its going out of style, with no regard for the future. They become intoxicated with the idea of all that money coming in, and it burns a whole in their pocket. That's why when you see "old money" you'd never know them or pick them out, because they live like they did before the money came. How said. Her new SUV, his new BMV. Not a thought for eight children or their future. I've never heard of such greed or waste.

justamom said...

Jim Bob and MIchelle, for teaching your kids valuable skills

Yes, thank you Jim Bob and Michelle for teaching your daughters to be submisive servents to men and your sons to be chauvenest (sp?) cult leaders. These are great life skills.

Pony said...

Just wondering said: "Someone suggested that their lawyers may be advising them to spend money so they don't have to split as much. I don't know.. I've never had a divorce."

I have had a divorce - and spending money on cars doesn't change anything. The value of the cars gets added into the total assets the couple has. You can actually be forced to sell cars if both parties don't agree on who gets which car. So Kate could say, "I want the Nissan Z car" and Jon could say "I want it" and the judge could say "then sell it and split the money." Or... since this is PA, the judge could side with Kate and give her all the cars. Or side with Jon and give him all the cars, the house, the kids, and her paid-up pass to the tanning salon. You just never know. I would NEVER want to get a divorce in Pennsylvania. It's a state in which lawyers have been known to say to clients, "So you need to decide whose children you want to put through college - yours or mine." If you have many disagreements on custody or property, it can take years - and lots and lots of money.

bedonenow said...

http://www.minorcon.org/waiting.html

I'm sure this has been noted somewhere, but Paul Petersons's latest post broke my heart. I have been hoping that that he was already involved on some level and just keeping very quiet about it. Now my hopes for a sane presence in this mess, are gone.

There are so many people involed in this and only Kevin and Jody have spoken out. Why? Even the children's grandparents? No one from TLC or figure 8? Why is everyone so afraid of Kate? Or does money speak so loudly that it's beyond our comprehension?

I predict with all certainty that Kate will orchestrate horrible accustations against Jon in order to maintain control of the children and their money. By that time it may too late for A Minor Consideration...

Please. Don't. Watch. Monday. Night.

Yolanda said...

I just wanted to post the link to this commentary in case you haven't read it.

It's called: Can we please stop treating reality TV shows like news?

[URL="http://www.mercurynews.com/tv/ci_12623155"]Mercury News Commentary[/URL]

If the above link doesn't work, here's a Snip link to copy and paste.

http://snipurl.com/kigdv

Wendy said...

Jon Gosselin, recent victim of the wrath of Kate Gosselin. He has been slowly cut out of Kate's show. It has not been confirmed yet but seems inevitable.

The list of people that have been axed by Kate Gosselin is getting longer and longer. Many claim that it was because they didn't obey her every command.

My worry is those 8 little faces as Kate calls them. I wouldn't be surprised if she'd get rid of any of them because she has tossed aside her brother, her parents, her husband and her friends. Kids grow up and are going to start having voices and opinions like many of the adults Kate has axed. I worry for her kids because they are obeying her now but they are just kids. When they reach adolescence and don't want to be commanded to do things like their father was, how will Kate react? Will she lord over them because she controls the checkbook? Will they have no escape from the cameras? Will she go to people magazine to trash any child in the future that disagrees with her? I worry that the children will be Kate Gosselin's next victim after Jon is gone completely from the household. I worry that TLC has just stood back and taken in money as this scenario has been set up. TLC has allowed for all this to happen. They didn't object when Beth, Bob, Jodi, Kevin and other loving influences were taken off the show. They didn't object when familiar camera and crew members were removed. They just allowed Kate to rake in more of the money. Now, they aren't objecting as Jon is being axed from the show. They claim to care about the 8 little faces. However, they have just facilitated it that the kids are the only ones left for Kate to attack.

I worry for the kids. It's the only reason I ever watched the show. I enjoyed watching the kids grow up. Her kids are the reason America watches the show. I worry the lengths Kate will go to when any of them start saying no to her and jeopardizes her ability to make money off of them.

Now the kids have nobody to protect them against the wrath of Kate Gosselin. I'm worried.

Kelly said...

Perhaps their old house was taken off the market so Jon could have a place to live.

It's amazing how a family of 10 who started out asking for the public's help with donations to assist them in supporting their kids, now has more than anyone who contributed and they continue to take take take. Why do J & K need a BMW, Nissan, Mazda Mini Van, Toyota Land Cruiser, Custom Chopper, 2 ATV's, a tummy tuck, hair implants, boob job, liposuction, botox treatments, spa treatments, tanning treatments, a 1.3 million dollar mansion, horses, apartment in Trump Towers, ski trips to Utah, 20,000 dollar two week vacation in NC and all the other ammenities when their kids aren't benefiting from the public's largess? This is a shakedown the likes of which only Bernard Madoff is accustomed to.

elvie said...

You have to split everything fairly in divorce, who is watching out for what these children have EARNED in the marriage?

cossysmom said...

I have three observations about Kate.

1. Kate is of the mindset that "if some is good, then more is better." When the show started, the public enjoyed what seemed to be good natured banter between Jon and Kate. Kate saw that her verbal jabs at Jon were well received, so she "took it up a notch," and continues to do so; so much that she has alienated not only her friends and family, but the public that she perceives of loving her.

2. Kate has what I call "The Michael Jackson Syndrome." She has distanced herself from everyone in her life except for paid employees (and her props...her spouse and children.) There is no one close to her that will tell her the true. As a result, she has become over the top...someone that no one recognizes as a human being any longer.

3. Kate has never had to interact one on one with her children. She first had twins. Cara and Mady always had each other to play with. Kate then had sextuplets, conveniently several boys and several girls. Again, they can interact and entertain themselves. Had she had a singleton, she would have had to fill time playing dolls, building grocery stores with blocks, inviting her child to help in the kitchen, etc. While these children are lucky to have each other to play with, they lack the opportunity of guided play with a loving parent. I know it is difficult raising multiples, but I know many people who have multiples and still are able to interact with their children as a group and as individuals. (I was shocked when Jon and Kate couldn't say whether the kids were right or left handed!)

worldsofdifference said...

Look at the Roloffs and their fam. Those kids are all very hands on with their parents, and their skills show. And those kids always talk about the great memories their parents have b=given them when tinkering with a car, pumpkin season, building things, clearing land.

You always see Amy or Michelle cooking too, something besides crackers, grapes and yogurt! *or some chef made food.

Been there, Done that said...

I can guarantee those kids will never see a dime of all the money they've made -- not in a college fund nor in a trust. First of all, Jane & Kate are two of the dumbest people I have ever seen so it will probably be gone soon. Secondly, the kids will have to constantly kiss that controlling bitch's ass to get anything from her. My advice for the kids: forget about the money; don't even give it a second thought; just get the hell away from those toxic people as soon as you can, and NEVER look back. Be very careful about choosing a life partner, and raise your children in a loving home. It can be done after so many years of abuse if you let it all go and not let it define you.

Sharon said...

If Jon and Kate do get divorced, then good for Jon. My big concern is that he will be moving to NY and leaving his children behind with the B!$$$. How can he just leave his kids.

cossysmom said...

forgot to include my one observation about Jon in my last post,

1. Needs to GROW UP

Mary in Akron said...

A friend of mine on facebook updated her status saying how she can't wait for the big announcement Monday, and she hopes they get back together, etc. The sad part is most of her friends' comments were like they live in a fairyland. They all thought the show was still great and they hope it isn't canceled. I put my 2 cents in and mentioned this site. It is just sad how people still see this show as entertainment. If I want to keep my friend, I should just keep my mouth shut, lol. I just thought I would share my frustration over people's obsession with seeing other families have problems on television. Nevermind the fact that the children are suffering the most. Sigh...

Thoughts2Ponder said...

just wondering said...
Yeah.. I read that's why she was at the bank twice last week.

Someone suggested that their lawyers may be advising them to spend money so they don't have to split as much. I don't know.. I've never had a divorce.

Heck.. I don't even think I've ever had a lawyer, either..



I am going thru a divorce in PA...I was told NOT to spend any money on extras or it could come back to bite me.
Kate though I am sure will find a reason to as why she needs a new 70000 vehicle. That seats 8...hmm so there will be room for the 2 body guards, and her big ego.
I heard the beahfront place she stayed at last week ran 10000 a week....crazy spending.( Im sure tlc assisted with that, but its just the point in these touch times for so many she has no clue)

GAmom said...

I'm curious...for all the laywers here, when divorce proceedings commence, and a court advocate is appointed for the kids, will they automatically order a financial review of the family? And if so, can/will the court do anything if the kids have not been provided for with trust funds, savings, etc?

Dog Kitchen said...

I've been reading here for awhile. I used to watch the show in the early days...always appalled at how snippy and abrupt she was with Jon. But, in those early days, there was a sweetness to all of the hullabaloo-- and Kate's organic food, one Christmas dinner she made one year that looked AMAZING, the way she once packed Mady and Cara's lunchboxes-- well, it all seemed genuine, if not "real."

But the last few years, I've turned it off (the new "house" was a big shock to me when I happened upon a recent show one evening-- "gosh, how can they afford THAT and not work-- oh- wait...").

The time with the gum and poor Collin's lovey toy, the poor "icky" boys always ignored by their mother, poor Jon, so beaten down and shut off, poor Mady, "the brat," the screeching about a $20. coupon-- in a 1.3 million dollar house! The way she treats the dogs, guests, everyone! Countless examples. All too much. Too much.

The ONLY thing that will bring this family any peace is if they immediately pull the plug, downsize to a modest house, sell the ill-gotten gains, and try to work it out as a couple. If Kate thinks that "peace" means divorce and continued filming, then there's no hope for her.

Lisbeth said...

I think I have a different opinion than others here. I don't want to deny Kate or Jon to make a living (writing an organization to cancel an appearance). If people want to pay to go see her, host her appearance, that is their business (I wouldn't but that is me). Who am I to claim organizations around the country need to comply with my opinion?

I DO want the kids to have the opportunity to live life without the public scrutiny and cameras in their home. I DO think that emotional, financial and physical protections need to be legal and in place for children on TV that are beyond parental consent. I feel the same way about the Duggars and all other "reality" show families.

I hope that the Gosselins do find some peace and comfort and security with each other and a new way of life without the show. I don't for a minute think that this families struggles should be entertainment in magazines, the internet or television.

It feels like many here are gleeful about Kate's problems. Again, it isn't like I support her or her choices or personality or behaviors, but this is the children's mother. They love her and Kate needs some sort of help (emotional, marital, family) and I hope that she gets it. I feel the same way about Jon. If both parents get help it is in the best interest of the kids in the end.

kaitlinsnana said...

I emailed the southern women's show. Hope someone will continue posting Kate's schedule so we can voice opinions.
----------------------------------'m GAmom
curious...for all the laywers here, when divorce proceedings commence, and a court advocate is appointed for the kids, will they automatically order a financial review of the family?"
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I second that question!!! Love to know how the process will work. The kids need someone to see to their interest now and watch Jon and Kate for the next twelve years. Do they not realize that their crazy spending today is robbing their children? They don't seem to know the meaning of "integrity".

I've holding some hope for Jon having decent values when he's away from the spell cast by the wicked witch of the northeast. Throw some water on her, please, my little pretty.

Aunt Chris said...

I hate to be so crabby here, but I'm afraid there is no hope to get this family back to normal. First of all, since this has been going on to some extent since before the birth of the tups this is their normal.

Secondly, Kate has a definite problem saying she was wrong about stuff, so she for sure won't own up to being in the wrong about anything in this marriage. Any kind of compromise will have to come from Jon in that area, and basically, that's no change from the way they have been living.

God help those kiddos.

lukebandit said...

the reason why kate didn't put sunblock on her when she went with jon to celebrate his 30th birthday was she wanted to get sunburnt so she would have the excuse not to have sex with him. then when she is at bald head with stevie boy she lathers herself in it, because she can't wait to rock it out on Neild Mountain.

i thought the poster was exaggerating about kates feet being dirty propped up on the coffeetable, i saw it, and i can't believe she would allow that to be shown. they were black!

i feel so bad for mady having to go through and run and tell cara that she saw mommy kissing mr. steve! and when cara heard it she busted out crying.

kate there is a special place in hell for people just like you.

Pride cometh before the fall. i believe this is happening, NOW!

jon and kate are acting like it has been announced that the end of th world will end monday and they are grabbing every vanity luxury known to man before Jesus comes back.

wendyzr said...

If ratings continue to plummet, then she can't get the raise she wants. there is no show. so what if 40 episodes were ordered, a network will cancel and bad show.

They did plummet you know. From almost 10 million down to 2 million or a little over but still that is a lot. something is happening and that is why they decided to bring back the drama!

Second I believe the story about Jon getting a new apartment because someone who spoke with an exec producer was on Geraldo recently and they said TLC was shopping for an apartment for Jon that was camera ready. They were talking about it on the E! special last night and it was Trump (as posted by several GWOPers) but it also showed how much they RENT it for. I doubt he buying. It is for the show. But WHY is he gonna live in NYC so far away from his kids? Why does he not move in the neighborhood?? Ya know being such a parent that "would go to the ends of the earth" for his kids?

And on that E! special JK Separate Lives they talk about Steve and he IS MARRIED. He is still married, not divorced like some have speculated here. those are professionals at E! and they would find divorce or separation papers if they existed.

Reminder IF RATINGS GO DOWN THEN SHE WILL NOT GET HER RAISE. Do you want to contribute to that? Do you want to help put $150K in her pocket? I am asking those who want so badly to watch Mon night. We KNOW what they will say. Don't fall for it. You can READ THIS BLOG for a recap. So there is no need to watch the show. I mean they have almost real time blogging on here so when that announcement is made it will be here or TMZ but just don't watch. There are many I think that say they are too disgusted but are just so hooked. But really if we make some effort WE CAN PREVENT HER FROM THAT PAY INCREASE.

Keep it simple Kate said...

In simple terms....Kate had two beautiful children...Jon was satisfied...Kate wasn't...SHE insisted on "Just one more"...Right
She got more then she asked for.Right! Then she felt that it was everybodys responsibility to give and care for HER kids! Right!
She became increasingly greedy. I hate when mom's have kids and have others take care of the kids when they have the oppurtunity to take care of the kids themselves. Excludes working moms who HAVE to.
Not only was it HER who wanted to have all the kids but then she has to exploit them and make tons of money off on them......Ever heard of keep is simple Kate?

wendyzr said...

Anonymous Dog Kitchen said...

The ONLY thing that will bring this family any peace is if they immediately pull the plug, downsize to a modest house, sell the ill-gotten gains, and try to work it out as a couple. If Kate thinks that "peace" means divorce and continued filming, then there's no hope for her.
_________________________________

There is no hope for her.

I believe the story that Kate's brother and sister in law gave us about Jon telling them that Kate came to him, told him its over and had a contract for him. and it stated..
"No Jon you don't have to bother working on our relationship, not even for MY kids. You can buy all the toys you want, have girlfriends, go out and drink (is there anything else she is missing her to entice him?) and do whatever you want. Does not matter how damaging it is for our kids. But SHOW UP FOR FILMING. I want to keep the show going no matter WHAT. If we gotta FAKE IT because that is what the viewers want, then so be it. The Show, The Show The show must go on! or in other words.. THE CASH MUST CONTINUE TO FLOW!"

Nuff said...

SavetheSheeples said...

There is much speculation about Jon's apartment hunting...someone mentioned that it's a "second home" since they frequently travel there. That could make sense, if they weren't splitting (which we don't know for sure yet, although it seems likely).

If they are indeed divorcing, and Jon is apartment hunting in NY, it makes me sad because he will be away from the kids, who so desperately need him. Jon isn't perfect, but he seems to be more loving and attentive to the kids than Kate. And the kids aren't afraid of or hostile towards him.

I think Jon got way in over his head years ago, having such a big family so quickly at a young-ish age. I think he just needs a breather and "find himself", which could explain his recent behavior. I don't doubt he loves the kids, but if taking this time for himself will improve his relationship with the kids somehow, then he should do what he can to regain his sanity and get a level head.

wendyzr said...

Look at the Roloffs and their fam. Those kids are all very hands on with their parents, and their skills show. And those kids always talk about the great memories their parents have b=given them when tinkering with a car, pumpkin season, building things, clearing land._______________________________

Yes the Roloffs. they are another family where we have watched them grow more wealthy over the years. I enjoyed that show in the beginning cuz they were like me, trying to struggle on little money and keep the kids happy and keep their farm. Remember when Amy was so frustrated with her husband cuz he chose not to work but all these crazy endeavors? then it was about spending more money on renovating that house and vacations. HOWEVER I do tune in once in awhile. I do not find it repulsive so I can. I just don't keep up with it cuz I don't want to invest so much time watching TV and other things interest me.

But I think they have managed to stay grounded. they kept their farm and continue to work it as income like their pumpkin and peach sales. Is it peaches? Amy is still Amy. she is no diva and her house is STILL messy. I love that! They don't make headlines but are still successful. Well ooops the dad did make HL because of a drunk driving arrest. My bad. But he learned from that.

But what a difference when you compare the two families! One is obviously dysfunctional and one is very healthy and loving.

Gigi said...

Reaching. Always reaching for more. More trips, more money, more fame, more room, more clothes, more cars, more babysitters, more freebies, more stuff.

The sad part is, the only thing truly worth reaching for was in their grasp all along: the love and devotion of eight wonderful kids.

Martha W said...

Look at the Roloffs and their fam. Those kids are all very hands on with their parents, and their skills shw. And those kids always talk about the great memories their parents have b=given them when tinkering with a car, pumpkin season, building things, clearing land.
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Well, the Duggar kids helped build the home they now live in! Even their girls had their own power screwdrivers and drills!

TUNDRA said...

Not to worry Wendyzr - I won't be watching the show nor will any of my friends who I have asked to join me in boycotting not just the show and TLC in general, but its advertisers and sponsors. This is about money from ratings and product placement. I won't watch. I won't buy.

marylou said...

Wendyzr said:

And on that E! special JK Separate Lives they talk about Steve and he IS MARRIED. He is still married, not divorced like some have speculated here. those are professionals at E! and they would find divorce or separation papers if they existed
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I checked the MD real property records this morning, and Steve and Gina still have joint ownership of their home. The database is usually a few weeks behind, but I would think if they were divorced, they both wouldn't still own the house. Agree - they are still married.

Pony said...

I'm not sure that Steve cares one way or another about Kate. If you look at all the photos, he always looks bored out of his mind. Maybe he's that good of an actor - or maybe Kate's dressing for some other guy. Either way, I don't for one minute think that if Kate ditches Jon she's going to wind up with Steve.

momRNto6 said...

DrG said
"The issues with regard to the Gosselins are not Kate's hair color, manner of dress, etc., but the helplessness of these children in the face of the very public exposure and the violation of their personal boundaries for the financial gain necessary for them to lead their very distorted and "unreal" lives."

This so very sad and true. It breaks my heart because it looks like nothing is being done to help the children and NO ONE in power (able to stop this mess) is stepping forward.

These children have not had a chance from the moment they were conceived but hopefully their exploitation will save other children...but in reality the same was done to the Dionne Quints years and years ago and apparently nothing was learned to prevent this mess.

The money makers of reality TV are laughing...I truly hope the law will hope them accountable for the future.

my9cats said...

Grace said...
The E-Town house is still up on the website. Listed for $315K.

6/20/2009 2:11 AM


After all this time on the market they only dropped it 10K?

It is what it is said...

They lowered the Etown house to $315,000 (they paid $280,000)
Still no buyers, and its costing them money to keep it on the market and empty, (taxes and all)
Very silly move on their part, but Kate was DESPERATE to move to her
Mcmansion (Mine, all mine)

Mystical said...

Steve Neild looks ridiculous and out of place in this photo. Why would Steve need to be at the Gosselins' overseeing the OCC crew? No reason at all. But, it tells us why Kate was so shrill and giddy that day. She was trying to impress Steve.

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv/jon-and-kate/slideshows/american-chopper-visit.html

nanasez said...

About the Crooked Houses. One thing that made me sad is it seems like Jon would be more than capable of doing a project with Cara and Mady to build fun playhouses for them.

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Julie, this an excellent observation! One of most thought provoking comments I've read. You're so right. Jon has all the money in the world, and all the time in the world. He has complete freedom to focus on his children and do the kinds of activities that lots of parents only dream of being able to do with their kids.

They could have spent the whole summer designing, building, painting, and decorating playhouses together. Their land is as big as the Roloff farm. They could have a whole TOWN out there. He could put in a paved, circular track in the back pasture that the kids could use for their bikes, scooters, motorized vehicles, etc. They could put up goals and have a soccer field - he loves soccer so much, he could get his kids involved in it.

Everything he has left from his father means so much to him. I wish he'd grow up and realize that he means JUST that much to his kids. No matter what Kate says or does to tick him off, his focus should be on his children...not on cars, girls, hip clothes, or whatever. I hope someone can get through to him and wake him up before his childish rebellion causes any more damage to his life and his relationship with his children.

Mystical said...

It's pic #13.

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv/jon-and-kate/slideshows/american-chopper-visit.html

SaNdY said...

It is what it is said...
They lowered the Etown house to $315,000 (they paid $280,000)
Still no buyers, and its costing them money to keep it on the market and empty, (taxes and all)
Very silly move on their part, but Kate was DESPERATE to move to her
Mcmansion (Mine, all mine)
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ITA, and what puzzles me is that when they bought the McMansion, it was around the same time that she told Jon 'it's over'...even if they bought the new home before the 'its over' time frame, they had to have an inkling of what was happening with their feelings for each other, so why would they go ahead with such a huge purchase at that point in time?? Just doesn't make sense to me, but nothing they do does....

Nan said...

Good point poster about Kate picking up the tups by their arms when they wre little. We have seen both her and Jon do this. You would think that as a nurse she would realize how dangerous this could be. No common sense I tell you.

TUNDRA said...

Seems to me Kate does a lot of things with no apparent awareness nor concern for the consequences of her actions.

I'm sorry but where I come from a lady knows to keep her legs closed when in public view.

Kate's bikini-clad "crotch shot" seen 'round the world and by her own children for pity's sake (In Touch Weekly, Page 39) is just another example of why I won't watch the show nor buy any of the products advertised on it.

Enough is enough. The Gosselins and TLC need to get a divorce from each other!!!

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Edited to Add:

Kate and Jon are so intoxicated from drinking the celebrity-wannabe-koolaid I can't see either of them wanting to "go back".

What worries me is the children who have been getting their share of freebies too. How will they cope when the cameras are finally turned off. Will they even know how to play with their toys and each other without a boom mike stuck in their faces?

PatK said...

I hope they're stuck with the E-town house for a long time to come. (Apparently BM hasn't been able to get financing? *snark*)

Kate will never release her grip on her fame or cash cows, and Jon certainly isn't going to give up his free ride either--divorce or no divorce. There is "no going back" for Kate. I think it's safe to assume that she and the kids will continue on with the charade this season. All we can hope is there is not another.

Seashell said...

I get so tired of hearing "Jon was so young when he got married and had kids" etc. etc.

I had two kids, a mortgage, and a car payment by my 23rd birthday. I had my first child on my 19th birthday. I don't use that as an excuse to be a lazy, selfish, parent who acts like a teenager.

Just like Jon, it was my choice to do things the way I did. Just like Jon, nobody held a gun to my head and forced me to get married and have kids at a young age. The difference is, I don't feel like the world owes me my "party days" back. Jon and Kate both need to grow up and stop making excuses for their horrible behavior.

my9cats said...

TUNDRA said...
edited
"What worries me is the children who have been getting their share of freebies too. How will they cope when the cameras are finally turned off. Will they even know how to play with their toys and each other without a boom mike stuck in their faces?"


ITA. The bigger question is how will they know how to share and play with kids that are NOT their siblings. The isolation these poor kids are kept in is awful. What the hell is wrong with these parents. The kids are not museum pieces to be looked at and locked away. They need other children to be with. To learn to socialize with their peers. IMO this smacks of child abuse.

6/20/2009 11:26 AM

Tybee said...

I saw a mention of the house still being on the market up-post. I went past there yesterday and I think it was their house. I've never been before but was in the area and gave it a shot. If it was the house, then yes, there is still a for sale sign. I must say, however, that it is a beautiful neighborhood and a lovely house but the space between houses is VERY TIGHT. I can fully understand wanting more space around you, especially if you are going to be subjected to gawkers. Not feeling sorry for her, but just saying I understand THAT aspect. With the houses so close, probably the neighbors were glad they moved too.

Little Miss NASCAR said...

Because I am incredibly bored, I am watching a show about them on TV Guide Channel called Jon and Kate: Is It Too Late?
Gag me. Honestly, they need to call it quits, its such a sham.

nanasez said...

I get so tired of hearing "Jon was so young when he got married and had kids" etc. etc. I had two kids, a mortgage, and a car payment by my 23rd birthday...The difference is, I don't feel like the world owes me my "party days" back.

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Thank you, Seashell! ITA. I married at 20, had two kids by 24, and by Jon's age had been widowed for six years, went back to college to complete by B.S., and was starting my master's (on my way to my Ph.D.). I never had any party years, and never thought I was owed any!

Jon needs to grow up. (Kate's not off the hook...but Jon growing up is easier and more likely to happen than Kate changing her personality. At least then the kids could have a good dad.)

SaNdY said...

my9cats said...
Grace said...
The E-Town house is still up on the website. Listed for $315K.

6/20/2009 2:11 AM


After all this time on the market they only dropped it 10K?
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IMO, I think maybe J&K thought that some lucky fan (BM??) would snap up their E-town house (with all their Bible-versed sticky notes all over the place) at that inflated price as soon as it was put on the market, and they were shocked when no one bit....

ManicNarcissism said...

Steve Neild looks ridiculous and out of place in this photo. Why would Steve need to be at the Gosselins' overseeing the OCC crew? No reason at all. But, it tells us why Kate was so shrill and giddy that day. She was trying to impress Steve.

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv/jon-and-kate/slideshows/american-chopper-visit.html

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which photo? i don't see him.

Mommy in PA said...

So the Elizabethtown house is having a lot of trouble selling, Jon is supposedly looking for a place of his own while they have a divorce in the works.....

Why doesn't Jon just go back to the Elizabethtown house?? It would make sense because then Kate would be rid of both Jon and the Elizabethtown house (and she does want both of those things....)

Also, it would give the kids a familiar place to go when they are with Jon....
(Not to mention that Josi & Kevin live around the block & could again have some normal influence in the kids lives!)

Sharon said...

Mary in Akron said...
A friend of mine on facebook updated her status saying how she can't wait for the big announcement Monday, and she hopes they get back together, etc. The sad part is most of her friends' comments were like they live in a fairyland. They all thought the show was still great and they hope it isn't canceled. I put my 2 cents in and mentioned this site. It is just sad how people still see this show as entertainment. If I want to keep my friend, I should just keep my mouth shut, lol.
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Mary, I have had the same experience on J&K's FB page. It boggles my mind how the people on that site still hold Kate up on a pedestel. I have spoke my mind on that page and WOW they tried to eat me alive. I swear that those people are being paid by Kate. There is no other explaination for how stupid they seem, when it comes to Jon and Kate and the show. I still go on there just to see, if they are starting to see the truth, and so far, it still the same. j&K are wonderful parents, don't say anything negative about them, Jesus is going to come and save them, anything that comes from the media are just lies. I am just baffled. They really believe that Kate is this holier than tho person.

Also, hasn't it been said that the state of PA is going to pay for the tups college education. If so, wouldn't it be nice if they decided that since J&K have all this money to burn (that they have made off their kds), that they should be paying for their kids education themselves. Does anyone know who we might e/mail to get that ball rolling.

SaNdY said...

Wendy said...
Jon Gosselin, recent victim of the wrath of Kate Gosselin. He has been slowly cut out of Kate's show. It has not been confirmed yet but seems inevitable.

The list of people that have been axed by Kate Gosselin is getting longer and longer. Many claim that it was because they didn't obey her every command.
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(Didn't include entire comment due to length) Excellent observations, Wendy, thank you...you are so right about Kate axing all the people around them, and what will happen to the kids once Jon is in his tricked-out bachelor pad??? If it's bad now, it'll be worse then....

Stars said...

Kate makes me sooo sick. Here she is in the previews, sitting so humbly in the middle of the couch, tissues properly placed, tears in her eyes, soft spoken. Excuse my french but BITCH PLEASE! Oh, she is really working to get that sympathy vote. Oh, poor Kate, she didn't ask for this, now she's a struggly single mother of 8. PLEASE! And then she's talking about "oh I'm afraid to speak up, but I have to for my kids' Whatever Kate. You have NEVER been afraid to speak up about anything. Now I guess she's going to say she keeps her mouth shut to keep peace in the marriage. Right Kate. So funny to see Jon hang up in her face when he was clearing the land. It's about damn time. I also noticed how comfortable Jon is during his interview when he was talking about their marital "problems" while Kate faked like she is so devastated. It's obvious Jon is over and done with it. He doesn't even care anymore. I will only be watching the last 10 minutes of this show just to see what this "big" announcement is. I'm sure it's another stupid announcement like last time

just wondering said...

FormerlyfromPA said...

I'm convinced Kate has always considered these children to be dolls/props/robots. I pray Jon's legal team is digging deep for all the "evidence" that's out there to support who's the better parent of the two.

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Yes.. A narcissistic mother only sees the children as an extension of herself. And they must reflect the image she has of herself.

Gentry86 said...

"This is what people do that come into money quickly and easily. They start spending like its going out of style, with no regard for the future. They become intoxicated with the idea of all that money coming in, and it burns a whole in their pocket. That's why when you see "old money" you'd never know them or pick them out, because they live like they did before the money came. How said. Her new SUV, his new BMV. Not a thought for eight children or their future. I've never heard of such greed or waste."
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So true, and so very sad. When I got my first 'real' job out of college, even though I wasn't making a ton of money by anyone's standards, it was the most I'd ever had coming in on a regular basis. I blew through the first two months' paychecks and was sickened when I realized that after school loans, I didn't really know where the rest of it went. I can only imagine how it is for people who started out as poor as KON to come into all kinds of free money. From the way they've responded to it, it appears they feel as though they are entitled to it. It makes me sad - what would our forefathers & ancestors say if they could see our culture today, where having too many children too soon/without thought to consequences gets you free stuff and a ridiculously posh lifestyle?

When I think of these kids, I see them as stepping stones for each parent. Without those precious little ones, they would have nothing. Kate's tummy would still look all lumpy, Jon would still have a baldy spot, and their cribs wouldn't match in their tiny little house. But I bet they'd be a lot more happy then they are now. This "I deserve it!" mentality, from material possessions to extramarital relationships, is childish, unbelievable, and heart-breaking.

Mystical said...

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv/jon-and-kate/slideshows/american-chopper-visit.html

ManicNarcissism, it's picture #13.

Sidney said...

Keep it simple Kate said...
In simple terms....Kate had two beautiful children...Jon was satisfied...Kate wasn't...SHE insisted on "Just one more"...Right
She got more then she asked for.Right! Then she felt that it was everybodys responsibility to give and care for HER kids! Right!
She became increasingly greedy. I hate when mom's have kids and have others take care of the kids when they have the oppurtunity to take care of the kids themselves. Excludes working moms who HAVE to.
Not only was it HER who wanted to have all the kids but then she has to exploit them and make tons of money off on them......Ever heard of keep is simple Kate?
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True, there are plenty of working moms who really do have to work for the essentials of life, and I feel so bad for those who do have to work and really would rather be home with their little ones. I don't think anybody in the whole world works as hard as a working mother. I feel such compassion for those wonderful women.

The essentials of life do not include a king size bed for a four year old child, who also has her own giant, flat screen TV set in her own plush room, her own trampoline, her own Barbie car that she can drive around in their large yard.

I know such a child. She is spoiled beyond belief, but she cries her little head off every Monday morning when Mom delivers her to daycare.

That little girl would much rather have a full-time Mom at home with her than all the bangles and bobbles her mother's salary allows this little girl to NOT appreciate.

The Mom actually says she couldn't buy all that nice stuff for the little girl if she didn't work.

A kingsize bed and a large, flat screen TV does not enhance this child's life AT ALL.

Some posters state that Jon and Kate really do have to keep on with the show, because that is how they make their money -- that is what they use to make house payments.

Same argument. The Gosselins DO NOT need a million dollar mansion, several cars, a pool, and every extravagance they decide to lavish upon themselves. That type of income is absolutely not necessary.

Most families live lives with much less and they manage to stay happy and healthy.

Also, a hard day's work for a hard day,s
pay helps parents sleep well at night. They know what and who they are working for.

TUNDRA said...

Sure, some folks might think Kate is "lovely" and even a fine example of a God fearing wife, mother and (cough-cough) "author" Doesn't mean they know what they are talking about, LOLS.

SaNdY said...

Stars said...
Kate makes me sooo sick. Here she is in the previews, sitting so humbly in the middle of the couch, tissues properly placed, tears in her eyes, soft spoken. Excuse my french but BITCH PLEASE! Oh, she is really working to get that sympathy vote. Oh, poor Kate, she didn't ask for this, now she's a struggly single mother of 8. PLEASE! And then she's talking about "oh I'm afraid to speak up, but I have to for my kids' Whatever Kate. You have NEVER been afraid to speak up about anything. Now I guess she's going to say she keeps her mouth shut to keep peace in the marriage. Right Kate. So funny to see Jon hang up in her face when he was clearing the land. It's about damn time. I also noticed how comfortable Jon is during his interview when he was talking about their marital "problems" while Kate faked like she is so devastated. It's obvious Jon is over and done with it. He doesn't even care anymore. I will only be watching the last 10 minutes of this show just to see what this "big" announcement is. I'm sure it's another stupid announcement like last time
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ITA!!! According to Aunt Jodi and Uncle Kevin, (who I totally believe, I do not believe any of Kate's lies) it was Kate who told Jon 'it's over' not the other way around, so why is she so devastated?? Big act for ratings and $$$$$, that's all....I don't think she ever loved Jon, she totally used him, I do think he loved her at one time, but not anymore...

BGR said...

Thought you might like to know that JK8 were mentioned in an article about infidelity entitled "Unfaithfully Yours" by Katrina Onstad in the latest issue of Canadian magazine Chatelaine. The article also references the experiences of Elizabeth Edwards and Veronica Lario (wife of Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi). I am not excusing anyone's infidelity ever. However, it was interesting that this author described the Gosslin situation as a "more lowbrow tale" which I don't think is the image Kate seems to be cultivating. It goes on to state, perhaps tongue in cheek, that "TV executives nervously began preparing a sequel: Jon Plus 8 Every Other Sunday at Chuck E. Cheese".

The generally unsympathetic response towards Kate to Jon's infidelity was attributed to the online consensus of Kate treating Jon "like a dung beetle with mini-van skills for years".

Too bad that Kate does not seem to have learned that important life lesson that for every action there is a re-action.

Shawn L said...

I went to Kate's "not-a-blog" and I am surprised that there are negative posts that have been up for as long as 10 days. They used to disappear within a few hours.

Either someone is asleep at the computer or they have decided they can't keep up with all the negative complaints.

And what Kate supposedly blogged turns my stomach. Such a ridiculous mish-mash of crap! Her mommy oohing and awwing just isn't genuine.


I am sad that their family has destructed right before our eyes, but I can't see Jon ever going back to Kate.

She is just too far gone. I would hate to see him being put through her trashing again.

Momof2 said...

Mommy in PA said...

So the Elizabethtown house is having a lot of trouble selling, Jon is supposedly looking for a place of his own while they have a divorce in the works.....

Why doesn't Jon just go back to the Elizabethtown house?? It would make sense because then Kate would be rid of both Jon and the Elizabethtown house (and she does want both of those things....)
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...because they've said MANY times "there's NO going back"

Wanda H. said...

Umm why is Kate buying a new car that doesn't even fit all the kids?? It said her new car was 8 passenger? I mean I can understand if she was buying a yukon or suburban to seat at least all the kids but this?

Merrilee said...

Jon is getting quite bald at the back of his head and he could certainly afford more hair plugs if he wanted to go that route.

Good on him for letting nature take its course. I don't think the first plugs meant nearly to him what they did to Kate.

Remembering Kate removing those nasty staples probably caused him enough pain to not want to go through that again.

Connie said...

Pony said...
I'm not sure that Steve cares one way or another about Kate. If you look at all the photos, he always looks bored out of his mind. Maybe he's that good of an actor - or maybe Kate's dressing for some other guy. Either way, I don't for one minute think that if Kate ditches Jon she's going to wind up with Steve.

6/20/2009 10:29 AM
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I agree. I don't think Steve COULD ever care about Kate romantically. He has seen a lot of her hysterical antics and I can't imagine that would cause him to admire or become attracted to her.

But who the heck can ever analyze what will come next in this terrible situation.

MomofFour said...

Kate Gosselin has a rude awakening coming her way. It's one thing to be a single mother. It's quite another to be the single mother of eight kids! It's hard enough finding a decent man out there and even harder to find one who wants to devote himself to someone with eight people to divide his time with...the responsibility is enormous. She's doing all these external things to feel better about herself...she needs to wake up and smell the coffee! Even once they are grown having eight children is an enormous responsibility. Add on top of that the job of knowing who's after the money and who is sincere? I wouldn't want to walk down that road for sure.

Punkin2448 said...

Someone mentioned on a blog once about how Kate always has her mouth open when the p-people snap her photo.

It reminds me of the time I heard Julia Roberts say that she used to hate it when that happened to her. She said she finally fixed that problem by just shutting up and smiling.

GOD, how I wish Kate would learn the shutting up part! And not just when the p-people are around!

teenybopperkatie said...

ManicNarcissism said...

Steve Neild looks ridiculous and out of place in this photo. Why would Steve need to be at the Gosselins' overseeing the OCC crew? No reason at all. But, it tells us why Kate was so shrill and giddy that day. She was trying to impress Steve.


I agree, that fake, loud laugh of Kate's and her animated actions seemed aimed at someone out of camera range. It took me awhile too to figure out it was Mr. Gray she was trying to "impress", embarrassingly so.

jen said...

So I watched that video from the tups 1st Birthday. A couple things stood out:

1. She was grabbing the babies out of the cribs like rag dolls. 1 year olds still need to be treated gently.

2. The reported said Jon goes to work and Kate "does it alone" which is a complete lie, and everyone knows it.

3. Nice shot of the Cherrios box. Product Placement? Either Kate was already getting free General Mills cereal or was hoping someone from General Mills would see it and say "Wow, that super huge family eats Cherrios, lets send them some!"

Further proof we have been scammed from the start.


Oh, and as for them saying "we can never go back." Sured you can. There are plenty of actors who are famous and then stop acting and fade away. They are making up BS excuses because they don't want to lose the free goodies.

Calgary7 said...

I don't agree that Kate had a poor or deprived childhood. A neighbour said that she lived on a farm, her family had rental properties, now own a campsite, and so would not consider that Kate had a deprived childhood.

I think that the issue is more internal. The other three children went to college. Kate may still perceive herself as the dumb one because she didn't go and wasn't successful as school. So she has something to prove.

Kate doesn't ever express pride in *HER* accomplishments. What goals did she set and achieve prior to the birth of her children that are hers and hers alone?

Most of us can point to accomplishments that we achieved prior to the age of 22; this gives us a sense of competence and that internal determination to work through any rough patches we experience.

Without that sense of accomplishment, she misses out on owning her competence. Note how frequently she says what she can't do. Not what she can.

I am not an expert. Perhaps her thinking is that she will feel better once she owns the latest cars and toys, properties, looks beautiful and has "made it".

It will take a great deal of maturity to understand that it isn't the "stuff" that makes you who you are.

I think she is a bright and intelligent woman. It's a pity that she hides this self so well.

She deserves our pity.
Not our condemnation.

Just saying ...

Mary said...

While these children are lucky to have each other to play with, they lack the opportunity of guided play with a loving parent. I know it is difficult raising multiples, but I know many people who have multiples and still are able to interact with their children as a group and as individuals. (I was shocked when Jon and Kate couldn't say whether the kids were right or left
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I live in a suburb of Chicago. There is a lovely old mansion there, belonging to a friend of mine. At the turn of the century, a family lived there with 17 children. They had money for help -- cook, nanny, maid, etc. So Mama was technically free to do as she pleased. Guess what?

SHE SAW HER JOB AS THIS: EVERY SINGLE WEEKDAY, SHE SPENT 30 MINUTES ALONE WITH EACH OF HER CHILDREN!

Kate doesn't have a clue.

snarks said...

Not-a-nanny unmasked??!

http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrity_gallery/image_full/181604/

Rod123 said...

Alright so I just saw photos of Jon on Dlisted and noticed that not only is he wearing Ed Hardy (the uniform of d-bags) but I just noticed he got his ears pierced and is wearing diamond studs. It looks like he's taking tips from the K-Fed House of Fashion. On a side note, I am a regular reader of a site called BlindGossip.com. They have a blind about Jon And Kate (that isn't very blind by the way) Anyway, in case you dont trust BI's, it was verified by a moderator who posted that Jon and Kate's representatives had contacted the site to take the item down. Not only did the moderator refuse, bt u can still go and read it. I will post it below:
They Will Be Dragging Out the Divorce - BlindGossip - When most couples divorce, they want it over with as quickly as possible so that they can move on with their lives, or for the sake of the children, or because lengthy divorces cost more money. Not this couple! They are currently negotiating to stretch out the divorce as long as possible. Even though they can’t stand each other - and have lived separately for a while now - as long as the family is somewhat intact, they both make a lot more money than they could with a regular job. Right now they are negotiating for two plus years of continued steady income. Yes, that’s right. He is just as motivated by the money as she.

OriginalThoughtz said...

on radar online and on celebrity gossip, they both have pics up of Jon taking one of the boys, I believe it to be Joel, to a pediatric office after getting a bump on the head.
Cant catch a break these kids.

ForeverHopeful said...

To Formerly From PA:

Thank you for including the link that you did of the Gosselin family!

That was shocking how Kate picked up the babies with one arm! I have NEVER done that, nor have I ever seen anyone else do such a thing. OUCH!

I KNOW that she has six babies to handle, but COME ON!

Watching her pick up the DOLL later on in the clip EXACTLY the same way was chilling!

Patty said...

So glad I found this blog a few months ago. Great job moderators.

Rather than repeat what others find distasteful about this show, I'd like to comment on archived footage/reports from the local central PA area. I get so annoyed with all the tabloid journalism, which seems rampant these days. So I've been trying to dig deeper at the websites of local newspapers and TV stations.

WGALTV in Lancaster did a video report of the Gosselins as the sextuplets approached their 1st birthday. It can be found at wgal.com/video/4468541/index.html

Maybe I'm over reacting, but I was very alarmed at how Kate picked up the babies from a "laying flat on their back" position, by grabbing them by one arm. If I recall correctly, this was done at least twice in that short report.

Ironically, at the very end of the report, Kate grabs a small doll from the counter in front of one of the twins the same way.

I'm convinced Kate has always considered these children to be dolls/props/robots. I pray Jon's legal team is digging deep for all the "evidence" that's out there to support who's the better parent of the two.



Thanks for sharing that link. Here is what I've observed:

00:50 Changing baby Joel's diapers, no support for the head or neck
00:55 Picking up baby Hannah by the left arm from the crib
01:26 KATE: "I wanted their help because I needed it, but I didn't want it, you know what I mean? I wanted to master it and do it myself." You mean JON, right Kate?
02:00 Baby Alexis from back to tummy by the left arm (done by the nurse or friend, not Kate)

Kate seemed as arrogant as she is now. At least she is consistent, huh?

Punkin2448 said...

Jon Gosselin Tends to Injured Son

New link about Jon taking Aaden to the Dr today for a small injury above his left eye. The article says it is Joel, but it's Aaden.

Pixie said...

The episode where they announced they were moving has been on a couple of times recently- I think it's quite telling that the marriage breakdown happened around the same time, as Kate makes a comment at the end of that episode about how she thinks a lot of their tensions and problems as a family come from being squished into a small space and being under one anothers' feet all the time.

I guess when they moved to the mansion, they realized that WASN'T the problem, after all, and that moving hadn't solved it.

maggieh01 said...

From the "candid" photos that have cropped up in the past few weeks, Kate seems to have turned into quite the hausfrau; she'd better grab up all the money she can, while she can. She's no catch now - the bitterness and self-absorption just jump out at you.

OriginalThoughtz said...

SaNdY said...
It is what it is said...
They lowered the Etown house to $315,000 (they paid $280,000)
Still no buyers, and its costing them money to keep it on the market and empty, (taxes and all)
Very silly move on their part, but Kate was DESPERATE to move to her
Mcmansion (Mine, all mine)
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ITA, and what puzzles me is that when they bought the McMansion, it was around the same time that she told Jon 'it's over'...even if they bought the new home before the 'its over' time frame, they had to have an inkling of what was happening with their feelings for each other, so why would they go ahead with such a huge purchase at that point in time?? Just doesn't make sense to me, but nothing they do does....



I think it was because to continue filming they had to have a place big enough to try and pull off the deception to the viewers. It was mentioned when they bought the place that there was an apartment above the garage. If you see the pics on radar when he returned last week, he seems to go there first.
There were jokes abotu him living in the basement when a mattress was shown down there on the episode that Kate spent cleaning out the fridge, just to get another one delivered the next week.

KaitiebugandBrayBray'smommy said...

new pics up on radaronline. Jon had to rush Aadeen to doc nasty bump on the head! Poor kid can't even go to doctors without it being all over the place.

NancyM said...

Lisbeth, I agree with your post. I have not participated in sending emails or trying to get Kate (or Jon) removed from speaking engagements, etc. I am not taking pleasure in their obvious self destruction. She seems dreadful and he seems immature but these are the parents of those kids and in my opinion the kids are better off if the parents are happy. I hope they work things out, are happy, and can make a living. The kids shouldn't be filming all the time but maybe they can find a way to leverage this notoriety and not harm the kids any further. I feel quite sorry for them all.

Not A Fan said...

OriginalThoughtz said...

on radar online and on celebrity gossip, they both have pics up of Jon taking one of the boys, I believe it to be Joel, to a pediatric office after getting a bump on the head.
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Seriously, Jon looks like such a douche in these pictures. Look at what this 32 YEAR OLD MAN is wearing! That is the outfit of an 18 year old (an 18 year old without any fashion sense).

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/06/jon-gosselin-rushes-son-hospital

I know many of you here want Jon to be the knight-in-shining armor who rescues these kids from big, bad mean Kate but honestly, I don't think he's a much better role model and is still completely capitalizing and exploiting his children. I'm SO not on Team Jon.

wendyzr said...

Rod123 said...

Alright so I just saw photos of Jon on Dlisted and noticed that not only is he wearing Ed Hardy (the uniform of d-bags) but I just noticed he got his ears pierced and is wearing diamond studs. It looks like he's taking tips from the K-Fed House of Fashion. On a side note, I am a regular reader of a site called BlindGossip.com. They have a blind about Jon And Kate (that isn't very blind by the way) Anyway, in case you dont trust BI's, it was verified by a moderator who posted that Jon and Kate's representatives had contacted the site to take the item down. Not only did the moderator refuse, bt u can still go and read it. I will post it below:
They Will Be Dragging Out the Divorce just to keep making more money.
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IF it is true that the reps called to have it removed (BTW how is that known?)when it was only a Blind item, then it must be true. Boy let's get this out there on all the news shows!

The watergate thing spread like wild fire. It may not have been mentioned on other shows at all had all the attention it got all over the web never happened.

So let's get this going! TMZ, Shobiz Tonight, Geraldo, any shows you can think of that will air Jon and Kate stuff. Which is everywhere!

The more negative reports and attention Jon and Kate get, the more sponsors start pulling out. That is the bread and butter for TLC so sometimes even ratings don't matter to the SPONSORS.

Not to mention sending more letters to sponsors about all this will help as well.

LifeSkillsMentorHere said...

justamom said...

Jim Bob and MIchelle, for teaching your kids valuable skills

Yes, thank you Jim Bob and Michelle for teaching your daughters to be submisive servents to men and your sons to be chauvenest (sp?) cult leaders. These are great life skills.

6/20/2009 7:12 AM
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YEs!! And Thank you, ROloffs, for teaching your ***20-yr-old*** doltish sons so many life skills also: those of personal responsibility, common sense, integrity, maturity, independence, importance of academics, gee the list just goes on!!
With regard to the Gosselins, their kids are actually in better shape already, even at their young ages , to cope with "life" than the Dolts Jeremy and Zach!!

Love**Tha**Itch said...

Calgary7 said...

I don't agree that Kate had a poor or deprived childhood. A neighbour said that she lived on a farm, her family had rental properties, now own a campsite, and so would not consider that Kate had a deprived childhood.

I think that the issue is more internal. The other three children went to college. Kate may still perceive herself as the dumb one because she didn't go and wasn't successful as school. So she has something to prove. *SNIP*

I am not trying to nit pick here but Kate DID graduate college. She is a registered nurse. This has been talked about on the show many times. When rehashing how she and Jon met she even stated that she had just graduated nursing school...When the show started she even still worked part time as a nurse, I think 2 days per week at a Dialysis center. That is the reason she was allowed to take Jon's staples out after his hair transplant...Anyone who actually watched the show, even a few times knows this.

NVMom of 3 said...

Calgary7 said...
I don't agree that Kate had a poor or deprived childhood. A neighbour said that she lived on a farm, her family had rental properties, now own a campsite, and so would not consider that Kate had a deprived childhood.

I think that the issue is more internal. The other three children went to college. Kate may still perceive herself as the dumb one because she didn't go and wasn't successful as school. So she has something to prove.

Kate doesn't ever express pride in *HER* accomplishments. What goals did she set and achieve prior to the birth of her children that are hers and hers alone?
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K8 was a registered nurse before her 8 kids were born. Just sayin'.

Nope, not a Gosselin fan . . that's why I'm here.

Love**Tha**Itch said...

Here is her nursing info from the PA Nursing Board...I wonder if she is planning to renew her license, they are set to expire in October.....

Name: KATIE IRENE GOSSELIN
Address Information
Address(city state zipcode): Elizabethtown PA 17022
License Information
Type: Registered Nurse Secondary Type: Number: RN519708L
Profession: Nursing Status: Active
Issue Date: 8/20/1997 Expires: 10/31/2009 Last Renewed: 11/14/2007
Discipline Action History
No disciplinary actions were found for this license.

Not A Fan said...

New Lady on the $2 Dollar Store White Chair...Hmmm...can you spot the difference?

http://dlisted.com/node/32617/images/spl108205_015.jpg

And why does Jon look EXACTLY like Kate yelling at the kids?

Jon:
http://dlisted.com/node/32617/images/spl107919_008.jpg

Kate:
http://www.radaronline.com/sites/default/files/photos/image_20090612/spl106675_015_0.jpg

Seriously, this kids are f'ed when it comes to a responsible parent looking out for their best interests. Those who think that Jon is going to somehow magically grow a pair and confront Kate and save them, needs to have their heads examined by a professional.

KaitiebugandBrayBray'smommy said...

I just wish this was all over. My obssesion( sp) with them. Its like an addiction I can't control. I have to know all the gossip and find out what I can. I wonder if they have rehab for this? When will all the insanity end? Oh yeah when Jon grows a pair and files for divorce and legal stops Evilina . I think I need a snack, low blood sugar don't you know.

OriginalThoughtz said...

Not A Fan said...
OriginalThoughtz said...

on radar online and on celebrity gossip, they both have pics up of Jon taking one of the boys, I believe it to be Joel, to a pediatric office after getting a bump on the head.
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Seriously, Jon looks like such a douche in these pictures. Look at what this 32 YEAR OLD MAN is wearing! That is the outfit of an 18 year old (an 18 year old without any fashion sense).



Really? I see so many people dressed like this in places that I visit and live. They were most likely given to him, just as Kates are to her....I dont think him wearing them is near as bad as her doing the bikini and crotch shots.

Not A Fan said...

So, I think the news on Monday is that they have separated and are sharing a joint custody arrangement with the kids. See how Kate is around with the kids, minus Jon and then Jon is around with the kids, minus Kate. For those who haven't been following as intimately as this blog and even those who have read the tabloids, this will come as a shock on Monday night and will probably equal some big ratings numbers for TLC, sorry to say.

Momof2inMD said...

marylou said...
According to Realtor.com, their Elizabethtown home is still on the market.

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/2190-Andrew-Avenue_Elizabethtown_PA_17022_1107599099

6/20/2009 5:52 AM

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Funny thing... the last time I looked at this add she had horrible pictures. Today her pictures were all new. I guess somebody was reading here. ;o)

Kasee5 said...

Right on, Julie. My concern is these kids will grow up thinking everyone has a birthday party with 4 huge bouncy things --- everyone flies out west to go skiing, everyone's been to Hawaii -- everyone deserves a $2000 "crooked playhouse." This is not a normal life they're being exposed to --- nothing about it is normal. Imagine how hard it must be to be a friend to these kids ---- I'm sure this is very isolating for them.

And, yes --- WHY do they always play in the driveway???

jen said...

How come the gossip sites never seem to get the names of the tups right? First they mixed up Leah and Alexis and now Joel and Aaden. Seems lazy.

Also, why is Aaden never wearing his glasses in these pics? As a long-time glasses wearer, depriving a child of their glasses brings on headaches (sorry Aaden, that schtick belongs to Hannah) and makes vision worse in the long run. Shame on J&K for not ensuring he has his glasses on ALL the time.

Janice in NC said...

I posted this elsewhere, but think it's more appropriate here.

Janice in NC said...
I just want to say a big THANK YOU again to the mods. I am sure you've been crazy busy lately and I appreciate your hard work! Fellow GWOPers....thanks for all of your posts and updates! I don't miss the show at all! It's great to be KON-tv free!!!! I think this site has helped to bring alot of what's going on to the mainstream media!!! Let's hope those kids get help!!!!!
To those of you who don't want to watch, but find it hard. YOU CAN DO IT! You will hear about everything on this site! We all know the big announcement is probably all hype about nothing!!!! BE STRONG AND DON'T WATCH! :-)

RuthinVA said...

I know Kate and Jon have shown plenty of poor judgement and bad decisions but to air your divorce for the whole world to see and your children to have front row seats anytime they want to pop in the DVD takes the cake. All for ratings, isn't there one logical adult connected with Jon and Kate or TLC?

Jake said...

KaitiebugandBrayBray'smommy said...
Oh yeah when Jon grows a pair and files for divorce and legal stops Evilina.


It is clear now that it has nothing to do with Jon growing a pair. He does NOT WANT to stop the gravy train. He is looking at one bedroom apartments in NYC. Where do you put 8 kids in a one bedroom apartment? Why does he want to be in NYC anyone - is that were Glaasman is? He is not acting like a man who wants to sue for custody of his kids. If he wanted custody, he would have found a place in PA near the kids. Jon wants his freedom. I am sure he loves the kids but he seems to be pursuing the youth he gave up maaying young.

KatesCar said...

Wanda H:
I thought the same thing about Kate's car! Why buy a car that seats 8 if you need 9 seats? Not that they even need another car/bike/ATV. There won't be any money left for these poor kids if these 2 IDIOTS keep blowing it all on toys for themselves!

Momof2inMD said...

Martha W said...
Look at the Roloffs and their fam. Those kids are all very hands on with their parents, and their skills shw. And those kids always talk about the great memories their parents have b=given them when tinkering with a car, pumpkin season, building things, clearing land.
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Well, the Duggar kids helped build the home they now live in! Even their girls had their own power screwdrivers and drills!

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Yes at the beginning the whole family helped. But at the end they had a contractor come in and finish the house. They even had a designer come in to decorate the rooms. I wonder who paid that bill?

anne said...

Jon has been looking seriously douchey lately... between the hoodies, graffiti shirts, studs in the ears, and alcohol bloat. Sorry, Jon.. you will never be a frat boy, that ship has sailed.

KaitiebugandBrayBray'smommy said...

Why can't they get jobs? I can (kinda) understand Kate ( her angle not what she actually does) " job" as she calls it. Motivational speaker, author yada yada yada . But why with all the help they have does he have to be a SAHD? The whole situation is just so horrendously horrendous . They both need to wake up and see the catastrophy they have left in the wake of their immaturity. The twins behave better then these two so called adults!

ForeverHopeful said...

What I want to know is why Kate keeps calling them HER children instead of OUR children.

Doesn't she realize that every time she says this she is going against her mission statement, everything she SAID about their family being OUR family, and negating all the focus of all the prior seasons of shows?

I've never heard her speak at a gathering, but I can be pretty sure that her speeches followed her books' premise of togetherness, Godliness, and faith.

Kate! You blew it!
We all realize now that you never meant what you said in the first place.

Shame on you for lying to us and to yourself!

VA Lawyer said...

Saw the pictures of Jon and the not-a-nanny. Is she Hawaiian? They look cute together even though she looks about 20 years old. Better than Jon and the she-wolf together.

Lawyers are telling them to spend money before the state in the form of court steps in so that they, and not some idiot, ya know, who is looking out for the kids decides what money goes in trust and what money goes where and to whom.

I'll take Jon as a parent of these kids any day of the week over the wicked bitch of the east. Ugly expensive t-shirts, earrings, motorcycle, I don't care...he is by far the only one with a hope of parenting well (or at all).

saratogachris said...

In pictures and recently on the show, the dogs look very attached to the family and even quite protective. I'm wondering why they aren't barking at the p people and chasing them away. I have two dogs, neither mean, but they bark at every person who just walks past our house. Maybe they are too far from the road, where these slugs hang out, but if I were the Gosselins, I'd train them to patrol the perimeter!

UnOrganicManic said...

LifeSkillsMentorHere said....

YEs!! And Thank you, ROloffs, for teaching your ***20-yr-old*** doltish sons so many life skills also: those of personal responsibility, common sense, integrity, maturity, independence, importance of academics, gee the list just goes on!!
With regard to the Gosselins, their kids are actually in better shape already, even at their young ages , to cope with "life" than the Dolts Jeremy and Zach!!

6/20/2009 3:29 PM


Um...what is your problem with the Roloff boys? At first I couldnt tell if you were being sarcastic or not. They actually do have pretty good life skills for *17* (not 20) just finishing high school. How many college boys do you know who do all the work they do outside of school? Most I know just play video games.

Anyway back to the Gosselins, Mady should get a lawyer and sue her parents for the right to her own body...they can call the spin off My Mother's Keeper

Just Sayin' said...

But at the end they had a contractor come in and finish the house. They even had a designer come in to decorate the rooms. I wonder who paid that bill?
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The production company did, and the Duggars displayed complete and total gratitude. I recall Michelle's tears of happiness when they were given a piano, as the family had been saving for one. Very different from Kate when she made the piano delivery guys take off their shoes so that they wouldn't mess up her house while they were bringing in HER free piano. The Duggars make use of theirs, too. It wasn't all for some fake show of giving kids music lesson for one episode and then ditched.

VA Lawyer said...

Kaitlinsnana: Most definitely, a line-by-line financial review will be ordered (and especially since, if it is true, the DA is investigation KON already and the exploitation of the kids with regard to working) and I am hopeful that an independent advocate/lawyer will be representing the kids' interests. They desperately need someone to look out for them. So the answer is that I don't practice in PA, but I am hopeful that the kids will be given their day in court, too, with their very own lawyer.

someoneshakeher said...

Yes, she has taken the hausfrau route. The mini-skirts are gone since "the incident." No big bug-eyed white sunglasses and high heels. Manipulation--for the media, the people who may be investigating them, the public. I got news for ol' Kate--you better get crackin' girl! It looks like Jon has dibs on Dr. Glassman this time around, so you better get a move on! You're only 34 and silicone sags!! It does take time to formulate a good boo-hoo woe is me story and manipulate the masses. Lucky for you (and us) soon (tho' not soon enough for this poster!) you may have all the time in the world soon!!! No more pesky people coming into YOUR house with their shoes on--the NERVE of them!! (Oh what the heck--off with their heads!!) See Kate-sooner or later it all works out--it's called KARMA. What goes around, comes around, no matter how long it takes.

BTW-I LOVE the Hayes family, the Roloffs, the Duggars, Jen and Bill, and the Matsches. What great representations of people who really love each other. Well--let's see-they actually LIKE each other too. Hmmm...see Kate-it CAN be done. With more kids than you have, less $$ and a real need for outside help--and even with one child with a disability. THAT is what puts people at risk for divorce--and through it all, the Hayes are still smitten with each other. I LOVE that. (in fact--it seems all the couples are) Someone needs to shake the heck out of her--just shake her. Ok, I'm putting my soap box away. For now.

marylou said...

So now Jon needs a bodyguard to take a child to the doctor?

http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/20/jon-and-son-plus-a-hospital-visit/

iAMnotApawnOnAChessboard! said...

Please excuse me if this has been previously mentioned in other comments, but has anyone noticed how they've tried to shut up the spanking of Leah incident with the "bigger" news of a momentous announcement? We're really being manipulated. They are trying so hard to deflect attention off Kate by what they think is a larger issue to take away our attention. I, for one, don't want to keep playing into their hands, TLC's and the Gosselin parents both.

Coyote said...

someoneshakeher 5:00 p.m.

I'd have to respectfully disagree. the other families you mention are also exploiting their children, in my opinion.

Jacsamic said...

I really do not give a hoot if Jon wears Ed Hardy shirts or not....he was there today for his son.

Aadens' bump on his noggin was enough for Pappa Gosselin to not only take him in to be checked, but, the photos indicate he called ahead as witnessed by the two ladies dressed in what I would identify as nurses or nurses aids clothing meeting him outside the pediatricians office.....

Uh, where is Katie Irene....at the very least I would have thought she would not pass up an opportunity to get photographed....

Good Job Jon. Katie Irene, just where are you???? Hmmm.

LiesAreNowWideAsAnOcean said...

Jennifer said...
Two new cars! Just saw her new Land Cruiser and I read Jon drove home a BMW from New York.

6/19/2009 10:20 PM
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It just seems weird to me why they would be wanting to call so much attention to themselves right now when they're basically in a heckuva lot of hot water with more than just fans. I agree with other commenters here that they could be trying to spend down some money but maybe they're also just stupid when it comes to common sense. It's almost like they're trying hard to make themselves as objectionable as possible. Truly, they are dragging their own anchor and the boat's about to be dry-docked.

katrinac said...

I've been lurking quite awhile - first time posting.

I live just a few miles from the "estate". I have a good friend who has the misfortune of living on the same road as the Gosselins. I can't even begin to tell you the hell their neighbors have been put through. They have paps parking on their property, trying to go all stealth through the woods. They have a non-stop stream of cars - all hours of the day. These are people who have lived there for years who are literally ready to pack up and move. It is one of the most lovely areas in this county. And - no kidding - Jon and Kate have destroyed it.

I have a few other connections. Jon's dad, who was a pediatric dentist, was my dentist when I was a kid. Dr Tom was the sweetest, most wonderful man. I was so sad to hear of his passing. I'm thinking that if he was still around he would just be appalled by what's going on today.

I work with a lot of nurses who worked with Kate back in the day. I've yet to meet one who has one nice thing to say about her.

I'm with all of you here. This just has to stop.

And here's the deal with their house...it really is a long, winding driveway - but the driveway winds around to the house and garage area which sits remarkably close to the road. It's not a stretch for anyone to sit out there and snap pictures.

There is so much land that clearly extends behind the house. They obviously live their lives in the driveway for a reason.

I'm with the rest of you. I just feel so sorry for the kids. There is just no reason why this should be allowed to continue.

wendyzr said...

There needs to be a law that all kids in entertainment whether it is movies, TV, Commercials or reality need to have an (independent) advocate there on set or out an about to take care of their best interest.

I don't care who pays for it. As long as they are there. That would cut down on a lot of investigations for the state to have. Saving the state money.

ICExploitation said...

I am not trying to nit pick here but Kate DID graduate college. She is a registered nurse. This has been talked about on the show many times. When rehashing how she and Jon met she even stated that she had just graduated nursing school...

Nursing School does not equal college.

Yes, Kate is a registered Nurse in the state of PA - she passed the nursing boards in her state.

BUT she does NOT possess a college degree - not an associate's, not a bachelor's. Kate studied at a "diploma" program run through Reading Hospital. At the time Kate went through the program, no degree was conferred at its completion.

I believe the program has changed and now a degree (Associate's, I believe) is bestowed at the end of the program, but not when Kate attended.

TheyAreSimplyEmbarrassing said...

so irritated said...
just wondering said: "Her kind of child rearing advice does not need to be heard by another single woman."


So true. Khate is not a typical soon to be divorcee. Her staff, mansion and shiny new vehicle exclude her from what real life single moms face. If she tries to write a book about this, what will she advise? Cut back to one nanny instead of 3? Date your bodyguard so you no longer need to pay him? Lease your $65,000 Land Cruiser instead of buying it? Bleh. Wish she would just go away.
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just wondering and so irritated, you guys are among my favorite commenters; love your insight and observations! Biting, appropriate humor in one bad, bad situation! I'm with you; I've decided these people are just stupid. I'm tired of giving Jon and Kate benefit of doubt. How many times can they blunder and offend? They're not role models for anybody. THAT, my friends, would require a BRAIN.

wendyzr said...

OK I read the blind item from that gossip web site about Jon and Kate stretching out this divorce as long as possible. It said as long at the family stays somewhat intact they receive reg income so they don't have to get real jobs.

The web site answered to Jon and KAte right there on the front page about their reps contacting them to remove it. Saying basically they never reveal who they are referring to nor reveal there sources so too bad they can't do a thing!

But now we know what the announcement is. It is separation not divorce. they are going to see how it works being apart because they need this right now. Both will have visitation and the show is now about that. Each having their visits with the kids and doing stuff the "help them through it" THAT is TLC's angle now. That is why they are stretching it out even though they have EVERY intention of divorcing.

Kate probably really wanted that divorce but when they dangled the money in front of her, maybe a raise, then she said "where do I sign? What do I do?"

Oh this needs to come out.

And BTW, How stupid to contact that blogger and basically GIVE THEMSELVES UP!

bcsurvivor2001 said...

Not A Fan said...
So, I think the news on Monday is that they have separated and are sharing a joint custody arrangement with the kids. See how Kate is around with the kids, minus Jon and then Jon is around with the kids, minus Kate. For those who haven't been following as intimately as this blog and even those who have read the tabloids, this will come as a shock on Monday night and will probably equal some big ratings numbers for TLC, sorry to say.
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I totally 100% agree. I think unless you are following a blog like this - the "general public" doesn't realize the details (yet). Even if they see the tabloids - they aren't necessarily seeing all the inbetween - daily reporting. so it might be a surprise on Monday (to some)

LifeSkillsMentorHere said...

UnOrganic Manic: The Roloff twins are 19 years old. They were born in May, 1990. In less than a year , they will be 20. And I think to anyone who has watched the show regularly, their lack of skills (can't use a phone book , for one glaring example) are legendary.
I don't have anything AGAINST them, I am just responding to a previous poster who questioned lauding the Roloff AND Duggar families for instilling "Life Skills" into their children.
And I agree Cara and Mady are no slouches, they will do fine in life, at least academically/on the surface. Emotionally who knows , with all that they have been dealt. JMO

IA bag lady said...

I don't think Jon's new wardrobe is all that bad. Ed Hardy is an extremely popular brand and I just wish I could afford some of his stuff! Alot of people that live in my area wear clothes like that. I agree that it is a huge switch from what he wore previously, but then again, maybe Kate dressed him according to what she liked.
I think the poor guy's put on weight and looks really haggared lately, but then again, if I were going thru such a public thrashing daily, not to mention public marital problems, I'd probably look similar. A little heavier, a little bloated, a little sloppier, a little more sad, and I'd also probably drink more then I should and might even take up a bad habit like smoking. For all that is going on in his life, I feel like his appearance is reflecting his feelings. He feels like crap, therefore he looks like crap. Then again, there's Kate. Makeup and hair always perfect (no matter how much it looks like a chicken's butt.) Her clothes are always stylish and her nails are perfectly manicured. Her looks also reflect her feelings....the show must go on!!

Miss Brown Betti said...

Patty found a very telling video:
wgal.com/video/4468541/index.html

Also...someoneshakeher...LOVED LOVED LOVED your post.

ThisCustomerIsNotHappy! said...

Mystical said...
Steve Neild looks ridiculous and out of place in this photo. Why would Steve need to be at the Gosselins' overseeing the OCC crew? No reason at all. But, it tells us why Kate was so shrill and giddy that day. She was trying to impress Steve.
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Yeah, I'm beginning to think if that was a relationship, call it one-sided on her part. Steve's probably seen aspects of her personality that he doesn't like anymore than Jon does and got the heck out once filming was (temporarily?) suspended.

I think Steve has left the sinking ship. He may have definitely reconsidered the proposition of taking on Kate and eight kids, especially if her show tanks. He's got a business reputation to protect as well and I'm sure he makes plenty of money with his company. My guess is he doesn't need Kate except for some temporary diversion. The guy's pretty good-looking; heck, he could go in the movies for real.

Seriously, who would want to be associated with Jon and Kate Gosselin, either personally or professionally, now or in the future? Their publicity is all negative. They're not respected or liked and have lost so much popularity.

Watch the flocks thin out as supply and demand ebbs. The Gosselin family business is about to go the way of General Motors, Eddie Bauer and Circuit City. The year of 2009 is not a good year for business, especially if you've made a lot of crucial mistakes in how you've marketed yourself during tough times.

SaNdY said...

OriginalThoughtz said...
SaNdY said...
It is what it is said...
They lowered the Etown house to $315,000 (they paid $280,000)
Still no buyers, and its costing them money to keep it on the market and empty, (taxes and all)
Very silly move on their part, but Kate was DESPERATE to move to her
Mcmansion (Mine, all mine)
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ITA, and what puzzles me is that when they bought the McMansion, it was around the same time that she told Jon 'it's over'...even if they bought the new home before the 'its over' time frame, they had to have an inkling of what was happening with their feelings for each other, so why would they go ahead with such a huge purchase at that point in time?? Just doesn't make sense to me, but nothing they do does....



I think it was because to continue filming they had to have a place big enough to try and pull off the deception to the viewers. It was mentioned when they bought the place that there was an apartment above the garage. If you see the pics on radar when he returned last week, he seems to go there first.
There were jokes abotu him living in the basement when a mattress was shown down there on the episode that Kate spent cleaning out the fridge, just to get another one delivered the next week.
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Thanks, OriginalThoughtz, that makes total sense, I should have known the reason would be shady, I should have been thinking more like a 'kon-artist'!

Denise said...

My 19 year old looked at Jon and said "Why is he dressing like a PIMP?"

I didn't have the heart to tell her he IS one.

babeeberry said...

I'm gonna go wayyyy out on a limb here and say Monday night's announcement will be nothing more than Kon saying they are starting counseling. I keep thinking that the way these two lie and spin stories they will use the counseling as a way to string the sheeple along throughout the season. They will use this to build up to a season finale of will the therapy work and they will stay together...or...will they divorce.

I also think that Kate has "something" that she is hanging over Jon. I have thought this all along because of the way Jon has always backed down from her. I never thought that children look at all like Jon, or Kate and I've always wondered if they used a sperm donor. I could see Kate using that against Jon. Anyways...that's my 2 cents. I may be way off base but I really think marriage counseling will get them the 40 episodes they need, and the sheeple will gobble it up.

~~Kristin~~

iggy726 said...

Is that Mr. Black's arm on Radar Online in the photo of Jon and
Aaden leaving the dr.'s office?

RachieDough said...

IA bag lady said...
I don't think Jon's new wardrobe is all that bad. Ed Hardy is an extremely popular brand and I just wish I could afford some of his stuff! Alot of people that live in my area wear clothes like that. I agree that it is a huge switch from what he wore previously, but then again, maybe Kate dressed him according to what she liked.
I think the poor guy's put on weight and looks really haggared lately, but then again, if I were going thru such a public thrashing daily, not to mention public marital problems, I'd probably look similar. A little heavier, a little bloated, a little sloppier, a little more sad, and I'd also probably drink more then I should and might even take up a bad habit like smoking. For all that is going on in his life, I feel like his appearance is reflecting his feelings. He feels like crap, therefore he looks like crap. Then again, there's Kate. Makeup and hair always perfect (no matter how much it looks like a chicken's butt.) Her clothes are always stylish and her nails are perfectly manicured. Her looks also reflect her feelings....the show must go on!!

6/20/2009 6:12 PM
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Ed Hardy is popular and quite expensive, but I can tell you that no one really wears it around here (I live within 20 minutes of the Gosselins). Certainly no respectable 30+ year old Dad would wear it. The only people I see in it are rich kids that want to be gangsters and b-list celebrities (think Hulk Hogan, Spencer Pratt).

I guess Ed Hardy is fine for some young people, if that is your taste, but seriously Jon, head back to the Gap.

GROW UP, already!! said...

Seashell said...
I get so tired of hearing "Jon was so young when he got married and had kids" etc. etc. I had two kids, a mortgage, and a car payment by my 23rd birthday. I had my first child on my 19th birthday. I don't use that as an excuse to be a lazy, selfish, parent who acts like a teenager. Just like Jon, it was my choice to do things the way I did. Just like Jon, nobody held a gun to my head and forced me to get married and have kids at a young age. The difference is, I don't feel like the world owes me my "party days" back. Jon and Kate both need to grow up and stop making excuses for their horrible behavior.
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I agree about the concept of "too young." I didn't have kids nor was I married at age 23 but I, too, had a mortgage, a car I'd finished paying on myself, a good job of 4 years and I'd even paid for a trip in full to go on a short European vacation by living quite frugally and with financial discipline. I was entirely self-supporting, not so much ambitious as industrious. Like Jon said about his mother's advice: it's all about the choices we make. Too bad he didn't heed her advice long before now.

This whole thing is so much about IMMATURITY and subsequent SELF-INDULGENCE. I'm sure Jon and Kate's families saw this long before all of us did. I know, of course, that each person has his/her own flaws and shortcomings but it's quite another thing when one's own resulting behavior impacts so many other people (such as eight innocent children). Bottom line: you can be young and responsible, or you can be young and irresponsible.

You're still old enough in your early 20s to make better choices depending on your conscience, integrity, morals, principles by which you live and also priorities. Even if at that young age you don't have a handle on all of it, you should have a handle on SOME of it.

Being directionless and idle leads to nothing but being discontent and opportunistic, and one bad thing leads to another...as evidenced by what we've seen play out in front of our faces on J&K+8.

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

I think that their marriage is over. Jon is tired of Kate's crap, and I don't blame him. Jon can do better than Kate. No man deserves to be treated the way that Kate was treating Jon.

I find it very odd that we haven't seen Steve since Kate got back from her vacation in North Carolina. I think that the trauma of Mady seeing Kate kissing Steve, scared Steve away. Let's all hope that Mady didn't see more than just kissing.

Naj said...

Denise said...
My 19 year old looked at Jon and said "Why is he dressing like a PIMP?"

I didn't have the heart to tell her he IS one.
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We call it "Dumb Criminal Chic"--- it's the way most of our guys going into lock-up dress.

konspiracytheory said...

Love**Tha**Itch said:

I am not trying to nit pick here but Kate DID graduate college. She is a registered nurse. This has been talked about on the show many times. When rehashing how she and Jon met she even stated that she had just graduated nursing school...When the show started she even still worked part time as a nurse, I think 2 days per week at a Dialysis center. That is the reason she was allowed to take Jon's staples out after his hair transplant...Anyone who actually watched the show, even a few times knows this.
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Ummm...sorry, no. Kate graduated from a nursing program, *not* from college. Feel free to read back through the GWoP archives for more info on a topic next time.

LisaNH said...

I have posted this question before but I'll post it again because maybe something has come out about it. What ever happened to the original producer Jen Stocks (sp?)? It seems like she disappeared and when she did, all heck broke loose. I wonder if she disobeyed Kate and was asked to step down?

Canadian Mom said...

http://www.mercurynews.com/tv/ci_12623155%22]Mercury%20News%20Commentary

Thanx for the link Yolanda!!

Best guess of the big announcement on Monday....

"Are they selling their kids to the circus?"

Not A Fan said...

OriginalThoughtz said...

Really? I see so many people dressed like this in places that I visit and live. They were most likely given to him, just as Kates are to her....I dont think him wearing them is near as bad as her doing the bikini and crotch shots.

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Where do you live?? Because where I live, I never see anyone dressed like Jon. He looks like a douche***. Seriously! Is that wannabegansta? He looks like a joke!

Kate Is Offhand About Thanks said...

"Just Sayin' said...
But at the end they had a contractor come in and finish the house. They even had a designer come in to decorate the rooms. I wonder who paid that bill?
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The production company did, and the Duggars displayed complete and total gratitude. I recall Michelle's tears of happiness when they were given a piano, as the family had been saving for one. Very different from Kate when she made the piano delivery guys take off their shoes so that they wouldn't mess up her house while they were bringing in HER free piano. The Duggars make use of theirs, too. It wasn't all for some fake show of giving kids music lesson for one episode and then ditched."
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Early on in the TV series, I would notice that Kate did not have an attitude of gratitude. She was not gracious to people who would come in and do things for them. She would talk about being grateful on the interview couch, which seemed rehearsed to me, but she was not at all personable with people who would wait on her, like sales clerks, or workers coming into the home; I can't cite any specifics because it's been too long since I watched those shows but even when I wasn't wearing my "I'm Suspicious" hat, I would notice her lack of thankfulness and be thinking, "Man, I'd be kissing that guy's hand!" after all that had been done to help me. She doesn't apparently feel or sense a need to express appreciation. It's probably wrapped up in that air of entitlement that wafts around her.

Teri said...

To Babeeberry:

You dont think the kids look at all like Jon and Kate? Really? They sure look like Jon to me. I also don't think Kate is holding something over Jon..he just never had the cojones to stand up to her long before now

Pauper Princess said...

This entire thing is SO beyond sad. I'm not sure why I care so much, except for my personal connection that I have explained before.

I'm sorry Kate is such a b***h. Her family deserves better. I'm sorry Jon seems to be lost in a quest to regain his youth. He strikes me as a rebellious teenager. Think about it - she treated him like another child, so it makes sense that he is rebelling against "Mom". It may not be right, but people aren't perfect.

I'm sad for all those children who have to live with it all. With all the children more strongly resembling Jon rather than Kate, and if she hates him as much as we speculate, can you IMAGINE how she will treat those children after a divorce? Those eight reminders of Daddy?

I wish they would both remove their fat heads from their respective arses and work on their relationship. They did care about each other once. It's sad to see something like that die, right before a million pairs of eyes.

Kelly said...

Ratings Gang, it's all about Ratings. They've lost 70 percent of their audience since the season premier and the Crooked House episode this week just wasn't going to do it for them. People are tired of seeing them get all these freebies in light of the worst economic recession any of us have ever seen in our lifetime. Many of us are struggling to keep our jobs, pay our bills and put food on the table for one kid, let alone 8 kids. These two "do nothings" have no idea what is going on because they continue to take the freebies, the love offerings and the things that TLC keeps giving them and "THEY DON'T WORK.

I wouldn't watch this show on Monday or any other week. I truly don't care. Between the two of them, yesterday, they spent well in excess of $150,000 on two cars. IN ONE DAY. How many of their LOYAL fans can do that in five years?

I don't care what happens to them. I will continue to watch a TRUE reality show called, "Deadliest Catch". These are real "MEN" who work hard, face the brunt of mother nature and support their families. Jon Gosselin is a true WIMP, with no drive, no ambition and no plans for the future, his or his kids. Kate is the same way. Their 15 minutes will soon be over, Thank GOD.

Not A Fan said...

Jacsamic said...

I really do not give a hoot if Jon wears Ed Hardy shirts or not....he was there today for his son.

Aadens' bump on his noggin was enough for Pappa Gosselin to not only take him in to be checked, but, the photos indicate he called ahead as witnessed by the two ladies dressed in what I would identify as nurses or nurses aids clothing meeting him outside the pediatricians office.....

Uh, where is Katie Irene....at the very least I would have thought she would not pass up an opportunity to get photographed....

Good Job Jon. Katie Irene, just where are you???? Hmmm.

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Jacsamic, I think the reason why Jon's choice of clothing has been mentioned is because of how much what he wears has changed - not unlike the comments about Kate's change in clothing by wearing heels, short shirts, low cut tops, etc. And, what he's wearing is honestly more appropriate for a guy in his early 20s (who's kind of a tool) not a guy in his early 30s, who is a dad.

And as much as you are defending Jon, how is it not possible that the reason why his son is hurt is because Jon wasn't taking care of him during Jon's watch? It looks like Kate is off-duty now and it's Jon's turn with the kids. I'm trying to figure out the custodian duties they've determined but I'm not yet seeing the pattern but it looks like Jon is with them right now, not Kate .

Leanne said...

Has anyone heard if the IRS is looking into KON's finance affairs? I think KON should be very worried about that (as well as the other investigations going on) I dont think for a minute that KON shelled out their own (oops, their kids) money for their new vehicles (What was wrong with the new Mazda Kate?) and new appliances and other goodies. I think they conned TLC into footing the bill. After all they need transportation and new appliances etc for the working 'studio' (aka the McMansion) These people are serious con artists and I have no doubt Kate has squirreled away ALOT of money for herself and it would have to be pried out of her cold, orange hands..I pray those kids get legal representation ASAP

Daner said...

On the subject of Ed Hardy, Marshals and Costco carry the clothes. Here in CA it is known as D*bag attire, same goes for Affliction.

iggy726 said...

A few random thoughts....

Does anyone know when the Green episode was filmed? I noticed that Jon said that they were installing panels over his "crib." Also, if I recall correctly, I think he comes out that door that appears to go to the apartment above the garage.

RE. the new Toyota. Are we sure that it was purchased? I could not tell what was taped to the back window. Maybe it was a temporary plate? Since Kate seems to be away, I was wondering if she rented it, had it delivered to a parking lot and took off hoping to not be followed. Was that Friday?

Also, did they film on Wednesday? I think that was the day that they showed Jon there with Kate. She also had the disposable coffee cup and seems to always have her coffee in disposable cups on filming days.

And, lastly, thinking of filming days. Just curious why we have never seen the craft services people. I wonder where they prepare the food? In my experience, they are usually working right outside the studio and they set up just inside the door.

Tangerine Tanya said...

Teri said to Babeeberry,

They(the kids) sure look like Jon to me.
I don't think that Kate is holding something over Jon.He just never had the cojones to stand up to her.
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I second that Teri...I think that they all look like Jon except Alexis who tends to lean more toward looking like a caucasian. Aaden looks alot like Jon's dad.

this is getting ridiculous said...

What gets me, is more then recently I have noticed the kids faces in any of the million pictures out there of the group, but notice how 6/10ths of the family is looking at the camera and only 7/10ths of the family is smiling.

The younger kids aside from Hannah, all seem forgotten and missing in the pictures. I just looked at one recently when they are posing, Kate is in yellow, John is in some sweater vest ordeal, the kids are wearing some variation of red. Hannah is sitting on John's lap wave/looking at the camera, both K&J are looking at the camera, and Mady is half waving at the camera. Also Aaden is waving, but not at the camera.

Thats only half their family! The other littles seem forgotten, and Cara looks so disgruntled its sad. This show started with such a different attitude, and I could tolerate it, but now any picture I see, I just see the money sign in the parent's eyes, and unhappiness in the kids faces.

I haven't watched an episode on the tv since the season finale of season 4, and I am happy to say that!

Jana said...

Seashell said...

I get so tired of hearing "Jon was so young when he got married and had kids" etc. etc.

I had two kids, a mortgage, and a car payment by my 23rd birthday. I had my first child on my 19th birthday. I don't use that as an excuse to be a lazy, selfish, parent who acts like a teenager.

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Jon's problem (one of them anyway) is that he was raised by an indulgent father who had a fair amount of money. Jon was given so much as a young man, and I don't think he's really had to work hard for anything in his life. He doesn't know how.

When my mom and dad got married, he was 24, she was 22. However, he'd served two tours in Korea, and paid his way through college because his parents could not afford it. He was a young man, but one who had worked hard for what he wanted, and also lived through some pretty tough experiences.

I use Jon and Kate as reminders how not to behave, as a human being. I am trying very hard to instill a good work ethic in my son, as well as strong sense of responsibility. I see neither in Jon.

Kelly said...

Iggy726,
The paper tag on the back of the Toyota Land Cruiser is a temp tag as is custom in NJ and PA with the purchase of a new car. She does have a PA metal tag on the back of the SUV which has been blocked out by the websites who posted it. That's pretty common.

Ladylou said...

Just a thought..... are the two dogs going to stay at the mansion with HER?
She doesn't like them and I've only seen her feed them no interaction on her part.
Jon on the other hand was very loving to the dogs. I saw them lick his face.
Poor dogs.. poor children left to their own defenses with that horrible lady!

Sharon said...

If you remember in the begining, pictures of Jon when he met Kate, he had that same "bad boy" look. he said he had no plans fo rthe future, he was just bumming around. Kate swooped in, probably shot him a crotch shot, and took control of his life. He has just picked up where he left off. kate was the( evil )master mind behind this whole family thing.

Aunt Chris said...

I think it's unfair to comment on Aaden getting hurt "on Jon's watch" as if Jon was not paying attention. While that's possible it's quite likely that he, or any adult, was close by. Hey, kids play, kids get hurt. I've had my kids get injured while I'm standing right there. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt on this.

Ladylou said...

Didn't I see the big new SUV seats only 8? Well she makes 9 so who is getting left out? I doubt she'd drive that big ugly sprinter thing we used to see them all travel in.
My gosh hasn't she gone from rags to riches! I am afraid we'll never see the end of her. She'll just get bigger and bigger and never go away.
This SUV is just to much for me to bear.
I no longer will look upon the name of Kate in any way shape or form.
For two who were so like so many of us in this hard economic time to be where she is now even w/o Jon she won't let her gravy train go away. She couldn't handle it. This is what she was made for... greed and money, and she isn't ever going to give it up at any costs.

Canadian Mom said...

They have GOT to be divorcing.

Kate would NEVER allow JOn to wear a shirt that said death, dishonor, and ?...

Yeah, you've changed Jon...from a transparent man of the church....to a pubescent metal head.

Snarkeling said...

Ladylou said~

'She'll just get bigger and bigger and never go away'

In light of the walls crashing down around her, I don't see Kate getting 'bigger and bigger' whatsoever..she is a very despised woman and networks/publishers etc (I pray) do not want to be tarnished by this woman's reputation..water-gate and spank-gate (and so much more) are not going to be soon forgotten and in general Kate is a really ugly person within and I don't see that ever changing. I think Kate will be forced to go away eventually..her own ego and hatefulness have brought her down and though she screeched that no one would bring her down..the great irony is that she has been her own worst enemy and has brought herself down

ilikekingcrab said...

I don't care what happens to them. (The Gosselins) I will continue to watch a TRUE reality show called, "Deadliest Catch". These are real "MEN" who work hard, face the brunt of mother nature and support their families. said Kelly

LOL, I'm watching the marathon too, the guys run a gauntlet of emotion on that show. I love all those type shows plus Ice Truckers, the Logger show, etc. I also like "Family Jewels", it is more reality than Jon and Kate or Dog the Bounty Hunter.
There are many, many different shows or things we can all be doing besides watching two con artists indulging themselves from exploiting their children.

Niki said...

I keep thinking about that article that the reporter tried to do for them for a Valentine's Day issue. Kate's behavior on the phone was shocking and so unexpected but all the pieces are falling in to place now.

By February Katie Irene has long moved on from Jon and wasn't interested in keeping up the act off camera.

Canadian Mom said...

I am not trying to nit pick here but Kate DID graduate college. She is a registered nurse. This has been talked about on the show many times. When rehashing how she and Jon met she even stated that she had just graduated nursing school...

Nursing School does not equal college.

Yes, Kate is a registered Nurse in the state of PA - she passed the nursing boards in her state.

BUT she does NOT possess a college degree - not an associate's, not a bachelor's. Kate studied at a "diploma" program run through Reading Hospital. At the time Kate went through the program, no degree was conferred at its completion.

I believe the program has changed and now a degree (Associate's, I believe) is bestowed at the end of the program, but not when Kate attended

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OUCH! I AM a Registered Nurse, graduated in 1993. Canada's nursing program is RIGID and DIFFICULT! I almost had a nervous breakdown in the 2.5 years it took to complete.

Us nurses ARE educated people, believe it or not! Kate is a poor misrepresentation of nurses, so don't judge the REST of us please.

*rubbing my fresh wound (that STILL stings!)*

Pauper Princess said...

Yahoo! TV Blog
Life-Changing or Channel Changer: 10 Wishes on What the Gosselin 'News' Will Be

1. The Gosselins will try one more time, and adopt Nadya "Octomom" Suleman's brood.
2. Kate's changing her hairstyle from reverse mullet to 145-degree-off-kilter mullet.
3. The children will be starring in a musical version of "Lord of the Flies."
4. Kate will get her tubes tied.
5. With the crossover success of "American Chopper," Jon will try "Wife Swap," then renege on the return policy.
6. Inspired by the pregnant man, Jon is going to go for it.
7. Kate will revive that 2001 trend, the Surrendered Wife.
8. The Gosselins enter the Octagon to face fellow TLC stars of "Little People, Big World." Game on.
9. Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt plan to adopt the entire family, mom and dad included. Their buyout offer was better than Madonna's.
10. They're upgrading from TLC to HBO. Two words: "Big Love."




http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/lifechanging-or-channel-changer-10-wishes-on-what-the-gosselin-news-will-be--415

AeroSpice said...
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SaNdY said...

LisaNH said...
I have posted this question before but I'll post it again because maybe something has come out about it. What ever happened to the original producer Jen Stocks (sp?)? It seems like she disappeared and when she did, all heck broke loose. I wonder if she disobeyed Kate and was asked to step down?
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If I remember correctly, Aunt Jodi and Uncle Kevin mentioned that there were crew members that left the show because of 'moral reasons' and we know that Jen and one of the cameramen, Scott, did leave the show, sometime in 2008, I think...

IrishGal said...

I just read that Jon had to take Aaden to a health clinic for a head injury, but I guess it was no big deal. I hope he's fine.

http://www.comcast.net/articles/entertainment-eonline/20090621/b130379/

Jennifer D said...

Jon's sport's car was by far a more ridiculous choice than Kate's SUV. He can transport 2 kids at most in that tiny thing and I hate to think of how hard it will be for the kids to get into the back seat.

Kate's SUV at least shows that she is still thinking about transporting the kids...well most of them anyway.

Canadian Mom said...

OK, I've unruffled my feathers...

I WILL agree that US vs Canadian RN programs must be vastly different.

Thank you posters, I SO enjoy reading everyone's opinions.

Thank you mods, for putting up with us! ;)

ilikekingcrab said...

Oops, I made mistake! I like "Dog the Bounty Hunter". I would feel bad if I didn't correct this mistake or even compared this show to Jon and Kate. Dog and Beth always have a message of 2nd chance and change on their program and are inspirational, imho.

Calgary7 said...

Canadian Mom said... OUCH! I AM a Registered Nurse, graduated in 1993. Canada's nursing program is RIGID and DIFFICULT! I almost had a nervous breakdown in the 2.5 years it took to complete.

Us nurses ARE educated people, believe it or not! Kate is a poor misrepresentation of nurses, so don't judge the REST of us please.

*rubbing my fresh wound (that STILL stings!)*


Since I am the idiot that started this thread, I would like to close it.

It was not meant as a slam against nurses.

I had read in a fellow PA-blog that Kate was the only one that didn't go to college (the other three kids did).

I was trying to put forward an argument that Kate needs our pity as she has very little that she can claim as an accomplishment and she is trying to use external things to prove her worth.

It was properly pointed out that graduating from any nursing program is an accomplishment and I appreciate the correction. Yet, I still feel there is something missing when someone is using toys, cars, possessions, houses, plastic surgeries, and so on to make themselves feel better.

Whew!

shann said...

i feel so bad for mady having to go through and run and tell cara that she saw mommy kissing mr. steve! and when cara heard it she busted out crying.
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whoa,when did this happen??

someoneshakeher said...

Coyote---That's the beauty of this country--we are all entitled to our opinion. Respectfully-I didn't say anything about exploiting the children. I simply stated the obvious: The parents in the families I named (or the "couple" in Jen and Bill's case) actually LIKE each other. They treat each other with respect, kindness and dignity. They laugh and have fun together--and ENJOY spending time alone and with their kids and other extended family members(hmmm...something we don't see anymore at all with KON....) The stress we see is from everyday living situations from their families lives. It's not from two parents sitting on a couch, one of which is waiting and wondering when--not IF--but WHEN the other shoe is going to drop because he said something wrong, stupid or silly--in Kate's opinion. During those couch sessions, we can see the tension. It is palpable. By no means is Jon an angel, and he bears some responsibility because he is in a partnership, but he does not deserve to be humiliated, emasculated or embarrassed-especially by someone who loves him. I was raised that if you love someone, you do anything you can to make sure they DON'T feel embarrassed, humiliated or emasculated. I'd move heaven and earth to make sure our children and my husband NEVER feel that way. TRhe same goes for our friends and famillies. The appearance, whether intentional or not, is that Kate goes out of her way to beat him down...and I suspect Jon feels that way as well. And you know what they say about someone who verbally knocks or beats you down: They want you to feel as bad about yourself as they feel about themselves(themself? boy--Kate would have a FIELD DAY with me!!! ) They have low self esteem and want company down at the bottom. And by the way--many of the times Kate "corrected" Jon, SHE was wrong.

RachieDough said...

Okay, seeing Kate's hot pink panties was less than pleasant, but it't nothing we haven't seen before. To that point, seeing her in a bathing suit is nothing special. Think about laying on the beach or on a lounge chair, everyone that walks by sees that same shot of YOUR crotch. Just seems like a weird subject to dwell on when it actually has nothing to do with immodesty. We know there was a teeny pink bikini under the coverup, but from that shot of her crotch it could very well have been a full one piece with ruffled skirt.

And I'll say it again since seeing the latest Ed Hardy duds on Jon... he looks like such a dbag and a total tool. Between that and the new bling he is making me gag. When I see the picture all I can imagine is him saying "what up bro" like he's 15.

For the record I'm not really using either Gosselin parent's fashion choices are a reflection of their ability to care for their brood, I don't need to. Their "fabulous" new wardrobes are insignificant to their bigger problems, but hey, I love to gossip as much as the next person. Haha. And the Gosselins can laugh right back at me, because I'm bloggin about them on a Saturday night when I should be out having my own life!

AeroSpice said...

Canadian Mom said...
They have GOT to be divorcing.

Kate would NEVER allow JOn to wear a shirt that said death, dishonor, and ?...
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His shirt says Death before Dishonor...how's that for making a statement? lol

http://justjared.buzznet.com/gallery/photos.php?yr=2009&mon=06&evt=gosselin-hospital&pic=jon-gosselin-son-hospital-aaden-04.jpg

Josie said...

AeroSpice said...

Canadian Mom said...
They have GOT to be divorcing.

Kate would NEVER allow JOn to wear a shirt that said death, dishonor, and ?...
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I believe the shirt says Death without dishonor..I enlarged it to make sure...that's what it looks like to me..although I could be wrong, afterall, I'm no Kate Gosselin!

6/20/2009 7:58 PM

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maybe he's part Klingon..lol...nope that doesnt work either..a klingon would NEVER let a woman disgrace him that way

Josie said...

you know if TLC is so bent and determined for cross over promotions...what they need to do is get Bruce Willis and Demi Moore to come and give them serious lessons on HOW TO GET DIVORCED and DO WHATS BEST FOR THE CHILDREN..and put them first..and IMO those two people gave us all an excellent example to live by if you get a divorce and want to do the right thing by your children

Just Be Nice Kate said...

Canadian Mom said...

They have GOT to be divorcing.

Kate would NEVER allow JOn to wear a shirt that said death, dishonor, and ?...

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His shirt says "Death Before Dishonor"

AeroSpice said...

maybe he's part Klingon..lol...nope that doesnt work either..a klingon would NEVER let a woman disgrace him that way
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LMAO...thanks for the laugh, Josie! :)

Calgary7 said...

katrinac said...
I live just a few miles from the "estate". I have a good friend who has the misfortune of living on the same road as the Gosselins. I can't even begin to tell you the hell their neighbors have been put through. They have paps parking on their property, trying to go all stealth through the woods. They have a non-stop stream of cars - all hours of the day. These are people who have lived there for years who are literally ready to pack up and move. It is one of the most lovely areas in this county. And - no kidding - Jon and Kate have destroyed it.

I have a few other connections. Jon's dad, who was a pediatric dentist, was my dentist when I was a kid. Dr Tom was the sweetest, most wonderful man. I was so sad to hear of his passing. I'm thinking that if he was still around he would just be appalled by what's going on today.

I work with a lot of nurses who worked with Kate back in the day. I've yet to meet one who has one nice thing to say about her.

I'm with all of you here. This just has to stop.


Thank you for your post. I had a rental car break down close to the estate several years ago and was so impressed with the friendliness, helpfulness and warmth of your neighbours.

It was such beautiful country and I would hate to see that it be ruined by the self-indulgent actions of JK+8.

The only reality about these shows is their participants' "pass due date" comes quickly.

Here's hoping that the peace and grace returns to your community very soon.

Amy said...

I have read and read and read through comments and now I have a question. Does anyone have a timeline of when the 4th season was filmed and then on-air and when the fifth season started taping with regards to the public pictures of Jon with the teacher? I was just kind of wondering, since the entire 4th season was leading up to the whole "wedding" and mommy and daddy loving each other and staying together forever. I know a lot of that was faux-reality but you could still see some love from Jon then. He's not so good of an "actor" IMHO that he could hid all of the anger and resentment that he is showing now. Thanks it has been bugging me for a while -- in an OCD sort of way.

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