Some People Will Believe Anything

I rejected this one earlier today but was asked to go ahead and make it a discussion point. We could call it a glimpse into the mind of a follower. She thinks Kate stays home, Jon works, that we're all Christians, etc. It would interesting to know how often she actually watches the show.

For the record since some of you obviously dont know...Kate and John both had real jobs before and John still does. She is a stay at home mom for the obvious reason that putting that many kids in day care would be ridiculous. John makes very good money as a computer it guy...and kate can go back to nursing at any time...You should know your facts before you judge other people...you people have nothing better to do with your time then to harass this poor couple who started the show to simply inform people of what it is like to have multiples...the offer was brought to them...they didnt go searching for it like others (ie..octomom). I'm sure most of you think you are good christians...yet you are spreading hate and gossip...GUESS what...thats a sin...

181 comments:

Merry Merry said...

ROFLMAO!

Aunty KimKim said...

Some people just have such a BLIND eye!
WHY? That would be a good answer, but we'll never know.

BUT, all in all, this person ISN"T putting the children FIRST, and that's what we are all trying to do!

Sounds like she hasn't watched a show for 2 years or so, or should I say 2 seasons?

Plus, after all of this, do you really think a head nurse, or hospital would hire Kate? With all her lies? I certainly wouldn't and I'm an RN, with 25 + years service!!!!

There's a big difference between what this person calls "hate gossip" and looking out for the interest of CHILDREN!!

All the TRUTH is coming out,,...and some of these "followers" are finally seeing the TRUTH and apologizing....which Is NOT what I'm looking for....but just that they see that we are putting the children's caregiving first! ...It's just nice to see that they agree.

God Bless these children, and may GOD speak to J/K's soul and have the truth come out...actually it sounds a BIT like Jon has had enough of the LIES...and is finally telling some truth...between this week, and what's to come next week, we shall see!!!

Take care all!

Jane in California said...

Wow, this woman really is buying a pig in a poke! It's ironic that she tells us to get the facts straight, when she has so many of them wrong herself.

Kate is not a stay at home mom anymore, that's for sure! Jon's even clearly stated in an interview that his job is the show. Kate talks about loving her job.

And it's sad what some religions have encouraged -- which is not to really think for yourself, or to examine facts honestly and truthfully. Just because a person claims to be Christian and to live by certain principles, that doesn't mean they really are. I will probably get the phrase wrong, but "by their deeds, shall you know them."

Or as another friend says sometimes when someone is trying to sell some baloney: "Who should I believe, you or my lying eyes?"

Missy said...

WOW, I'd like to know what rock this person is living under?? They have both even stated how they "work at home" and its easier for them now then when John did work off site. I think this person needs a reality check, I bet they don't even realize he's involved in a cheating scandal either, or do you think WE made this up too? Please be informed with the facts before you speak and dare judge us.

rachel said...

Hmmm. Interesting that this person jumps to their defense and seems to know sooo much about them, yet she spells Jon's name incorrectly.

stunned said...

Maybe it's a gag post.

Allissa said...

This sheeple hasn't seen more than 1 episode. Kate does NOT stay at home, Jon does NOT have a computer job(hell, bitch Kate wrote that in her little book) and they play the "Christian" card, but do not live their lives that way. Liars, greedy. This post shows the ignorance of the sheeple. Really hard for me to see how anyone can still feel this way, if they have really seen the show.

Oh my! said...

Where to start?

Of course, my eye is assaulting by the lack of apostrophes in words like "don't" and "that's," and the use of "then" in place of "than." That type of writing always makes me think immediately (fairly or not), that the writer is poorly educated, perhaps not very bright.

For this writer, I have to choose between "not very bright" and "hasn't watched the show any time in the past two years." Jon clearly stated on the show that he had quit his IT job. After a short period of attempting to pretend that he was "working from home," he and Kate both revealed on the show and in interviews that "working from the home" means being a stay-at-home-father.

There is NO income coming into that home other than what is earned thanks to those children.

Of course, since the writer can't be bothered to watch the show, she won't know from interviews that Kate DID go looking for a television show, just like Octomom. Only Kate didn't have the high media profile that Octomom has, so Kate had to shop around her own videotape of her children.

I wonder what it's like to live in the writer's world, where facts and reality can simply be ignored? Seems like it must be nice. So many Kon fans seem to have established residency there.

ruthy said...

Has this person been living under a log?

Both Jon and Kate have stated that Jon stays home with the kids. Do they watch the show?

shameful said...

sinners!...and I guess Jon sneaking out his girlfriend's bedroom at 7:30 in the morning isn't.

Here, honey, go preach to someone who really needs it.

info@sixgosselins.com

Cris, Jason & Olivia said...

um..okay?!? Kate and Jon no longer work outside of the home, and wasn't Kate the one who started to call producers about filming a documentary after the tups were born? Lots and lots of wrong information in that post!!

AnneMarie said...

I don't know what she's on, but I'd like some, but it's probably not legal.

GagMeWithASpoon! said...

OMG...lol

Hurry! said...

She forgot to mention that Kate "DID" invent the peanut butter and apple sandwich.

R.O.F.L!

Addison said...

I do not think of myself as a "good Christian" since I'm, you know, an atheist. Lol.

Debra said...

Sounds like blind adoration to me, and, the last time I checked The Good Book, IDOLATRY is a sin too!

AnneMarie said...

Posting on this thread too, since it fits here too.

Something that popped into my head today at work. The media and all it's happy happy sunshine shows, played up to the Kon's fluff pieces for 5 years. Riding the sunshine smiley train for all it was worth, after all who are they to deny us a heart warming story.

Now, we've been screaming from this site for a year to anyone that can read or answer their mail about the exploitation of those kids, all EIGHT of them, for nothing more than the ego runs and vanity parade parents, and NOT ONE outlet picked up on it.

Then comes the SEX scandle, and it's all over the news.

Exploit children, and ignore it.
Affairs, and extra martital boom chucka lunga, and scandle, and they eat it up.

They continue to ignore the kids and all that they've gone through and all the lies the parents have told and continue to spew.

You cannot hide the not-the-nannies, the chef, the landscapers, the new vehicles, the girlfriends, the shopping trips the gifts, the vacations, the mansion, private schools, plastic surgery...oh wait... I guess they can. As long as the media turns a blind eye to it, the Sheeple continue to go uneducated.

Shocking isn't it?

MaryC said...

If the show were to end to today, which it could due to the consequences of Jon's actions, I would assume they've saved in order to live comfortably in the future. They would continue to collect royalties from books, DVDs and re-runs of their show.

In addition, would they need to live in a million dollar home and instead be satisfied in nice home like they previous lived in. A few paychecks from their taping of the epiosodes could have paid off this mortgage easily.

Would they be able to give up the free trips, free appliances, free furniture etc to help their family move forward to a healthier place.

This could be an opportunity for a new start for this family. Jon appears to want the change and has demonstrated in more ways then one.

I think it might all come down to what "I want" vs. what "I need" and they could provide a modest above average lifestyle instead of the present day wealthy lifestyle with what they've earned the past five or six years.

Sharla said...

Stunned, I wish I could say this was a gag, but we get comments similar to this one and worse all day every day. They truly believe that they are "setting us straight." Normally this kind go straight to the trash bin. Once in awhile we'll let a not too bad one through.

ROFL said...

How 'bout there are people suffering all over the world and you are on a blog whining about how Kate Gosselin gets "picked" on! Maybe you should take all that compassion and give it to someone who really deserves it!

thehazlettfamily said...

She owes me a new laptop as I spit my pepsi all over it laughing at her ignorance. Obviously, she watched the original special and nothing more. Can we chip and get here a dvd set of the series so she can catch up?

Sandy Eggo said...

Someone needs to write this lady back with the following:
* If Kate is at home, is it her evil twin that's out promoting her books?
* What company it is that Jon works for as a "computer it guy"?
* It's JON, not JOHN

I'm all about respecting other people's opinions, but this lady needs to get her facts straight before writing something like that...

Lisa K said...

Is being stupid a sin? If it is , she wins the prize. Jon is an IT guy, LOL! That comment was priceless. I hope she is not in charge of anything important...Good Grief.

sayitain'tso said...

Is JOhN out of the closet?

iheartmyhubby said...

Oh please, what a loon.

Dunlurken said...

I can't believe that the poster even watches the show. If she did, she'd know that:

Katie Irene needs to quit writing books "so her kids will know she loved them individually and as a group" and start staying home and SHOWING them.

Katie Irene needs to quit worrying about giving her kids "everything she didn't have" and start giving them what she DID have - the opportunity to experience a 'normal' childhood.

Katie Irene needs to quit "documenting memories" and start allowing her children to grow up with ability to create their own instead of having them scripted for them by mom, dad, and the production crew.

Katie Irene needs to fire the trainer, fix her horrendously horrible hair, ditch the designer duds, and stay home with her children - since she claims to be a SAHM, ya know!

Katie Irene needs to step off her self-built throne, trash the tiara, and realize that the peasants she's trampled on her way to fame and glory are her own children, husband, family, and friends.

Heeellllloooo said...

The insanity in this post is so ripe I wonder if someone has made an alter ego to defend themselves?

Jon Boy is that you?

DoDADoDA said...

I used to post once in a while on a Christian site. I stopped awhile back because it was the most mean-spirited, hateful, judgemental, site I have ever seen.

When ever the name of God is invoked, a heaping dose of angry self-righteousness involved...you get the idea.

One word to the crazy lady...STFU.

WTH? said...

Actually it has been shown that the people that are “jealous” and “want what Kate has” are the Faithful Fans.
They don’t see Kate for who she really is, because they are just like her and they want what she has and they would be right there with Kate exploiting their kids for cash and freebies too.
They make excuse after excuse after excuse for Kate’s abusive and greedy behavior in spite of all the evidence that Kate is a nasty rude person and mother.

RuthinVA said...

The poster is just like Kate the world in their mind is different than reality. The poster is probably one that does what she is told and never questions anything. I know a few people like that, I think that is why someone invented Velcro, some people just can't tie their shoes.

my9cats said...

Wow.
This fruitloop is caught in an endless cycle of 'Groundhog Day'
The continual regurgitation of episode 1 and maybe 2.
Is she (sorry, I'm assuming it's a 'she')so blind she doesn't see the kids getting bigger through the years?
Sheepie, whatever you're on, please send some to me. Reality is getting tough and I need a break.

marypoppins said...

"...they didn't go looking for it like Octo mom"

Ok, I don't know a thing when it come to infertility treatments, but I just wanted to clarify:-
Kate had eggs in her (seven?) and someone inseminated her anyhow.

stunned said...

Sharla said...

"Stunned, I wish I could say this was a gag, but we get comments similar to this one and worse all day every day..."
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Wow, that is amazing to me...and it makes me appreciate the job you're doing more than ever - thank you!

I have to admit I was more than a little blown away when I read (on the professor's blog I think) how many women say they identify with K8's behavior. That scared me into thinking there could be a large population of narcissists in this world--kind of like the army of zombies in Michael Jackson's "Thriller" video--abusing their partners and the next generation into lives of therapy at best.

Also makes me ponder the media's enormous influence on the general public. For example, by showing frequent re-runs of the early episodes, isn't TLC underscoring a past lifestyle that no longer exists (if it ever did)?

And they're fooling some. But you know what they say, you can't fool all of the people all of the time. There will be a let down, and hopefully eye opening, at some point for the sheeple.

On a brighter note, Happy Mother's Day to all the moms. Thank you for raising our next healthy--and thinking--generation. :-)

Melody said...

The person is obviously very uneducated or just plain gullible.

If you watch one of the early episodes and watch some of new ones, you can easily see the disintegration of the family.

HannaBelleLechter said...

Thanks, Sharla. I've heard about the people and sites that still believe in the reality of Jon and Kate and what the couple originally tried to convey to the public at large.

To the person who wrote the original post, I'd like to say that I respect your feelings and thoughts, and I think you're a kindhearted person to come to the defense of the Gosselins.

Your info is a little outdated. Jon hasn't worked in IT, or in any outside job, in a very long time. Both he and Kate, as well as the bouncer and bartender at Legends Lounge, refer to Jon as a SAHD.

I agree with you that Kate was once a nurse and could return to that profession at any time; but, of course, with 8 children at home, she prefers to remain their primary caregiver. Or, she did prefer to remain their primary caregiver. Nowadays, as she herself admits, Kate has what she calls a "career," which takes her away from home 20 days out of the month.

There's no way Kate can be called a full time SAHM. There's absolutely no sin in that. Millions of American moms work outside the home. As long as her children are well-taken care of and loved, either by paid helpers or their dad, Kate has a right to pursue her dreams.

We can all watch tv and make our own judgments and form opinions whether we're Christian, Jewish, Muslim, agnostic, atheist, Hindu, Buddhist -- well, you get the picture. I don't think religious faith or lack of it should color our right to opinions about what we see in the public arena.

Kate and Jon, for better or worse, and despite their protestations, have put themselves willingly in the public eye. They like the perks of TV success, but they hate the drawbacks. I suppose that's understandable. But, that's THEIR choice.

If they truly hate the spotlight and loss of privacy, they should be sitting with their lawyers and TLC's lawyers in an effort to negate their contracts.

The Gosselins have never cared about the privacy of their children. We've seen baths and potty training and Jon inserting his finger in order to get one of his sons to have a bowel movement. All that loss of privacy didn't seem to bother the parents.

In fact, very little seemed to bother them, until Jon was caught socializing with young women at bars.

They have to own their behaviors. They have to acknowledge what they're doing.

Meanwhile, to the original poster, you have every right to defend or to protest "unfair treatment of the Gs." Just as long as you understand that some of us have every right to complain and to highlight hypocritical behaviors by the Gs.

I guess the bottom line is when you sell your privacy for monetary gain and public fame, you better make certain you understand that a price goes along with that sale. A very, very, very big price.

Original poster, you might be surprised to know that I wish only the best for the entire Gosselin Family. I hope everything works out for them.

pinkdiamond611 said...

I don't think this post is funny, I think it is sad. I will tell you why. There are probably millions of people out there who feel the same way. Think about it. If I had never found this site, I would never have discovered what really happened to Aunt Jodie. I wouldn't be able to find the links to the "prayer list", found out that Kate's parents helped her, but it wasn't good enough, that Beth wrote the book, not Kate. That Kate has a bodyguard, that Kate has an extensive travel schedule and is never home; that Jon's former employer fired him. That Jon and Kate rarely go to church on Sundays, in fact they used to tour the country and go to churches for "love offerings" which they took from people who probably couldn't afford it, but were generous and kind. I learned that all of the tups clothes they get for free; same for Kate. I learned that when the film an episode at an outside venue, the entire place is usually closed to the public and the Gs receive VIP treatment. That the Kons were on another reality show, and had their entire house made over for them, but Kate publicly complained. From reading this site I found these FACTS, but if I had never found this site, how is the average person supposed to know? Kudos to the mods for enlightening outsiders to the facts, and not publishing rumors unless they are confirmed.

Mommy in PA said...

Really, there are just no words for this insanity!

AnotherLisa said...

Kate's full time job is to be a royal beeeeotch on a reality show... like Omarosa.

Ann said...

My mom (who is in her early 60's) and some of her friends ages 50-60 watch reality tv but do not use the internet (a few may check email/pictures from family but do not check websites). It is interesting how they see reality tv. Like when I had read reality steve and the bachelors rumors, my mom and friends would never believe that Jason would change his mind, they saw him as a hard working single dad (most thought his wife had died from the way the show protrayed the single dad).

My mom is not a regular J&K watcher but has seen a few episodes each season. I asked her what she thought of the show, before I shared information from the internet. Her take was that Kate did pick alot on her husband (but my mom thought maybe something went on that might justify it when the cameras were not on). She thought Kate was a good stay at home mom. She thought the kids were cute and the parents were strict but you have to be organized and stricter with that many kids. My mom did think Jon was still working, and knew Kate was not. She thought Kate looked better then orginally but she thought maybe Kate had a makeover (like a one day makeover and shopping spree!). She thought the new house was unecessary because in her day the old house would have been fine.

After talking with her, she had no clue there were over 65 episodes in one year, she thought maybe 15.
She could not believe Kate's travel schedule. She really did not think it was real that Kate would be gone that much. She was also surprised to learn Kate was claiming to be a devout christian espcially with the way she treated her husband.

I'm sure there are many more viewers like my mom and her friends that do not come online that much or just have caught a few shows and oprah. Before trading spaces, I had never seen TLC, I don't think my mom watched TLC much before that either. It seems like that show drew alot of new viewers to flip to tlc and see what was on. That is how I first saw J&K.

This is the reason that some mainstream media like dateline or 20/20 needs to do a real investagation for people that do not come to the internet.

Sara said...

Sharla, I bet it was Pastor Craig? LOL!!!

butterflykisses said...

This poster is not alone with respect to their 'perception' of J & K Gosselin. Reading through the comments section on websites the past few days it appears there are many that are still believing that Kate is a SAHM (full time no less) while Jon (or is it John) works his 9-5 IT job. Additionally, there are those that still believe that J & K are 'struggling' financially and doing a reality show is the ONLY way they can provide for their 8 children. I even read one post that said, 'Kate deserves the occassional day away from the stress of being home 24 hours a day and raising eight children'.

LisaNH said...

Wow, that post really opened my eyes. I feel so bad about all the awful things I thought about J&K. To think, we were all so wrong about the exploitation of the kids and the narcissicism. Wow. I'm glad that poster set me on the road to the straight and narrow.

Oh and one more thing; Denial, it ain't just a river in Egypt. LOL.

Millburytimes said...

I agree with all you say about Kate and Jon - but what good does it do to keep rehashing everything that they do all the time. Do your words or actions help the children or the family as a whole? I just do not understand what purpose all your comments do for the Gosselins or anyone else. I am a grandmother and have watched every show and have noticed the changes in Kate and Jon, and I feel very sad for them and the children. But I do not think the continual trashing of them is very helpful or christian.

Dew said...

Not only is there direct evidence to dispute almost every "fact" in this post, but I think it would surprise some people to know we have heard from annoymous sources that Kate was indeed LOOKING for a reality show. It was not passively thrown on her plate, I have heard from multiple sources she was shopping around trying to get her family on TV back when the children were infants, and even before.

The truth about this family is tough and sometimes hard to believe, but unfortunatly it is the truth.

HannaBelleLechter said...

One last thought -- to the original poster and anyone else interested in the Gosselin saga:

Kate's appearance on Larry King Live and her statements are telling, imho. She said "I tend not to believe what I see in the tabloids."

Such a strange statement, to my way of thinking. Either you've asked your husband the truth of the matter or you haven't.

If Jon denied all that was written in US Weekly, then Kate would have said, "Jon told me it's a lie; I believe my husband; all the nonsense is a lie; tabloids are liars and we are pursuing legal remedies."

Her nondenial-denial means one of two things: 1. She hasn't spoken to Jon at all. When she says she "tends not to believe" it's a general kind of statement, not a specific one to her circumstances.

Or

2. Jon has acknowledged his affair, Kate knows about it, is aware of it, doesn't care about, whatever. Still, by saying she "tends not to believe" she's being overly generalized. She's not specific or pinpoint.

Sure, in the old days of the Enquirer, etc, when they talked about alien monkey babies and such, I myself tended not to believe.

But times have changed.

Once upon a time, Carol Burnett sued The Enquirer and won. Ever since then, tabloids have watched their step, been careful to get their sources straight.

Come on. Kate and Jon do not love each other, and physical affection, sex and love are gone. That's my humble opinion.

Kate is substituting her transformational looks and fashion for intimacy; Jon is looking elsewhere for sex and intimacy. It's clear.

Bottom line? Maybe this is an unpopular opinion but I feel more sorry for Kate. She just doesn't know how to love. Meanwhile, her childish, moronic husband just enters bars, finds hotties to f**k, and there ya go. He's happy.

It's sadder than sad. It's quite tragic. In the end, the children suffer.

SandyW said...

Goota love Mark Twain's widsom at moments like this

'If Christ were here there is one thing he would not be--a Christian.'
- Mark Twain's Notebook

Trudy said...

Millburytimes, discussing a TV show is not necessarily trashing the family. Some comments may trash them, but most discuss things that Jon and Kate have shown on TV or in public. If no one points out the error of blindly adoring Kate, then many more people are going to be lead astray or want to follow her inglorious path to fame and fortune (Octomom anyone?) They need to be exposed. It is our Christian duty to exercise discernment and not blindly accept whatever we are shown or told. We are evaluate and choose and "test everything." If we find Jon and Kate not to be good role models and find that their show and actions are full of lies and hypocrisy, it would not be right to let others continue to be scammed and lead astray.

RuthinVA said...

Millburytimes said...
I agree with all you say about Kate and Jon - but what good does it do to keep rehashing everything that they do all the time. Do your words or actions help the children or the family as a whole? I just do not understand what purpose all your comments do for the Gosselins or anyone else. I am a grandmother and have watched every show and have noticed the changes in Kate and Jon, and I feel very sad for them and the children. But I do not think the continual trashing of them is very helpful or christian.

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The purpose of the blog is to read other's opinion, share information and hopefully enlighten others to the exploitation of the eight children. It is a serious situation and if it wasn't for a little humor once in a while, we'd all would be crazy. Not everyone rehashes only the bad and the ugly. I have learned from this blog and not just about Jon and Kate. It always bothers me just a little when someone agrees then criticizes what others say on a blog, but of course everyone is entitled to their opinion. I feel this blog has helped to open the eyes of a lot of folks.

Miss Meliss said...

Isn't cheating a sin?
What about lying, is that a sin too?

Seriously, some people need to watch more than just the very first specials.

Then again I haven't watched in like a year LOL

If only the family we saw on those was the same family it is today. Had they only done the specials and not burned all their bridges.

I feel for the kids, they are the ONLY victims as far as Im concerned. Too bad they dont have someone who truly loves and cares about them to give them a hug.

sueshe said...

Sorry Sharla that you have to be bothered with garbage posts. Some worshipers of the Kon's just can't believe that they are the greed sucking blood suckers that they are. They only see what they want to see. They need to take off the blinders and see the clan for what they really are......

Cherier1 said...

You gotta feel sorry for the men out there if these women can identify with Kate's behavior with her husband and children.

Must be a lot of emasculated men in La La Land....

Jessica said...

seems to me like jon & kate gosselin have become idols to some of these "christians". worshipping idols, that's a sin from what i've heard.

Wendy said...

There are still people that actually think the holocaust never happened. There's no changing some people's minds with something as ridiculous as the facts.

Soup's On! said...

She probably believes that Kate actually uses a grandma in her world-famous "Old Grandma Soup"!

NahnCee said...

Writer doesn't know how to spell Jon's name. Doesn't speak well for veracity or IQ level.

Wonder what her learned opinion is on the burning question of heels vs. sneakers.

twins241 said...

Thanks for posting it Sharla. I almost peed my pants!

RobyninReading said...

LMBO!!!! This person must seriously be living under a rock!

I truly doubt Katie Irene could get back into nursing at Reading Hospital, especially now cause they're in lay-off mode.

An IT person gets paid a lot? ROFL! Sorry dear, they are not...especially at the shop he says he was 'fired' from (which he LIED about). He wasn't fired cause of health insurance, he was fired because he was working on the side, and he had probably signed a non-compete clause.

If you're so protective of Jon and Kate, please, please protect their children from them!

NahnCee said...

I seem to be recalling an episode when I still watched it a couple of years ago, where Kate's reaction to blood or poop or something like that was distinctly one of "ugh yuck ick blech!" Maybe it was Jon's hairplugs.

It left me with a distinct feeling that she couldn't be a very good nurse, though, to react that way.

Addison said...

There are still people that actually think the holocaust never happened. There's no changing some people's minds with something as ridiculous as the facts.
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Wow. That is scary. I remember I had a friend in high school who didn't believe dinosaurs really existed. She thought that God just put their focils/bones in the ground and made them look millions of years old just to "trick people."

No really. True story.

Marieski said...

Becuase you HATERS are all jaleous of Jon and Kate and U want to be them because their great parents and I don't think theres anything wrong with their marriage I bet they are happy because they work for a living just like that other blogger said. Stop being so jealous of them because they are awesome!!!1!! I dont need to believe anything because I belioeve the truth and J&K would not lie. Teh kids are soooooo cute!

Ahem. Thank you for that wonderful post that serves to remind us there are still nutters out there who believe in the elaborate farce that is the marriage and lives of the Gosselin clan. I've read some of the pro-Gosselin sites and I am amazed that there really are people out there who are STILL saying they "don't believe" and will wait to see what's on the show before they make up their minds. If you have compelling evidence in front of you, if KATE is going public and airing their marital woes...what is there NOT to believe? Why are people who are (rightly) saying, "see, this isn't good for the kids and this shouldn't have been allowed to reach this critical mass" STILL "jealous haters"?

Duh. Duh. Duh. Gosselin lovers? You are looking dumber by the day...

You've GOT to be Kidding said...

Wow. This person is going to feel really stupid after they watch seasons 2, 3, and 4!

SandyW said...

Addison,

Your friend needs a ticket to Kentucky's Creation Museum where the dinosaurs and people lived in harmony

http://www.creationmuseum.org/

No really.

Knitted_in_the_Womb said...

Oh good grief! How many episodes does Jon have to be on before people realize he isn't going to work outside of the home anymore?

And it isn't like Kate's plethora of TV appearances are filmed in her house...or the book-signings done in the house.

How delusional can someone be?

Knitted_in_the_Womb said...

I have to admit I was more than a little blown away when I read (on the professor's blog I think) how many women say they identify with K8's behavior. OMG. REALLY??? Women WANT to be indentified as being like Kate?

Every once in a while when watching the show, my hubby will say to me "I can see a bit of you in Kate, and me in Jon" (I sometimes "correct" him, and he sometimes just says "yes dear" to just get along) and I am INSULTED by that. Uuuggghhhh.

To be fair...I know that I can get my B*%^# moments...don't we all? The major differences between me and Kate though, are that you would NEVER not know that I have children when you enter my house (LOL! the mess, the mess...), and I actually feel bad when I act B*&^%$ to my family and APOLOGIZE.

Holly said...

What will they do for work once the show is over and they've gone through all their money attempting to live the life they do now? Can you imagine how tough it would be to return to a normal job with regular hours and a boss to answer to? It wouldn't last, I think at this point they would sell their souls to keep the gravy train rolling, hell they've already sold their children's privacy.

Also, I agree that w/ Kate's weak stomach how could she have possibly been a good nurse? I'm a nurse too and have witnessed much more vulgar sights than the things that come out of my own chilren's bodies. She is such a damn drama queen. Get a grip Kate!

Tangerine Tanya said...

Follower of Kate,

Christian is as christian does.

Maybe the SAHM (barf) will fax a happy birthday note to the 8 children that she left at home or maybe call and remind them to read that book she wrote so that they can know how much she loves them.

BMWoP said...

I read this post.

Total silence.

Then.......

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Lordy Bee, she be funny.

Sharon said...

I just read the post from the person who thinks J&K are all that. She is mild compared to most of the people on another site. OMG, they are so much in love with J&K, that it's sickening. One woman wrote Jon and Kate I love you, and I can't live without you. Some of you should go on there and read some of the stuff. But be careful becaus eif you say anything negative about them they will eat you alive.

Just anothe dummy said...

I have nothing to say. This person wouldn't read it anyway.

Robin said...

Even we Christians can see a wolf in sheep's clothing, the Lord has told us to BEWARE!

Sarah Lynn said...

No comment.

Not worth the trouble.

Sue said...

My little input and I know this isn't ALWAYS true but people that have to tell you "how Christian" they are, are the ones that normally are not! I know alot of people talk about their faith but you can see in their lives that they are. People who have to tell you I AM A GOOD CHRISTIAN are the ones who realize that they are not that good or they are trying to pull a scam like kon

meme said...

Has anyone considered that KATE is the one who doesn't live at home anymore/ With all the traveling she does,it makes sense for Jon to hold down the fort and stay in the house.

tallblonde said...

It's funny - I had someone answer my post on another site & they also said "I KNOW Jon works - people should quit lying about him - I JUST watched Jon & Kate + 8 & I SAW him leaving the house in the morning driving to work!"

I had to reply "Mmmmm - Genius - did you notice that the kids looked 2 or 3 years younger than CURRENT episodes?" *LOL*

That out-of-order episode rotation just confuses their little brains.... ;)

tallblonde said...

Rev. Craig Yoshihara from Roswell United Methodist Church shouldn't be posting under other aliases....

;)

Robin said...

I would hate to see Christianity bashed because of that person's post..or because of how Kate is conducting herself while considering herself a Christian.

We don't all act like that.

Anonymomma said...

Actually I'm a recovering Catholic but thanks for caring so much as to assume my religion.

1. John = Jon
2. Jon hasn't worked in 2+ years.
3. Kate is not a nurse. She may hold a license. But she's far from a nurse.
4. They, in fact, sought out TLC, with a homemade tape.
5. They, in fact, sought out the public, via their webpage created prior to the tups even making it into this world accounted for.
6. I don't 'hate' Jane and K8. I dislike them a great deal, but I don't 'hate' them. Please don't assume to know how I feel about anyone.
7. When you graduate from high school, come back and visit us again. Maybe then we'll take your posts seriously. But until then, I'm sure we'l all have a nice laugh from this one.

AllisonSarah7 said...

Shoot, she left out the fact that none of us have 8 kids under the age of 10 so we don't know what their life is like. Oh, and she also left out "vicious lies" of the paparazzi. And, oh my goodness, how could forget that we are all just JEALOUS of this insipid couple? Looks like SHE'S the one that should be doing more research.

MomOfThree said...

I think this is the right place to post this and I am new at this, but here goes nothing...!
I have been lurking here, reading for a few days. I have to admit I was (maybe still am?) a fan of Jon and Kate (and of course the kids). As a mom of multiples I often would say "Well if Kate does it with eight...". I faithfully watched the show with my oldest daughter and read Multiple Blessings cover to cover. When this scandal started surfacing I though to myself, "No way." Then I started Googling and we all know how that turns out. After the kids went to bed I was doing my "research" and came across this site. At first I thought it was mean spirited, but I was wrong.
The posters here have opened my eyes. Now I can see how J&K have changed since the beginning. Wow is all I can say! I admit, I feel slightly stupid for being fooled (and buying the book).
Honestly, I hope it is all made up by magazines. However, I am 99.9% sure it's not. Either Jon cheated or they are fishing for ratings. They should be ashamed of themselves for ruining what seemed to be a wonderful family. A family who's parents got a little too caught up. I do imagine that this all started during that fog that so many moms go through (especially moms of multiples). Tired, confused, shocked. Agreeing to a TV show for some extra cash seems fine. They are on a runaway train now and it is their own fault.
Sorry this was so long! I am enjoying reading everyone's posts and wanted to thank everyone!!

goawayJandK said...

Of course, my eye is assaulting by the lack of apostrophes in words like "don't" and "that's," and the use of "then" in place of "than." That type of writing always makes me think immediately (fairly or not), that the writer is poorly educated, perhaps not very bright.

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Was this posted by Jon himself?

hahahahaha said...

I'm guessing that this person has only seen the very FIRST one hour episode that Jon & Kate filmed. Because if she had seen any other episode, she would know she is SEVERELY wrong.

Kate can no longer be called a stay at home mom. She is now a working mom who seems to be on the road and away from her children quite a bit. And anyone who thinks Jon still works is just crazy!

ThePaginator said...

She knows so much about Jon but can't spell his name??

I'm not a Christian so I guess I'm allowed to judge all I want!

Jane in California said...

Millburytimes said...
I agree with all you say about Kate and Jon - but what good does it do to keep rehashing everything that they do all the time. Do your words or actions help the children or the family as a whole? I just do not understand what purpose all your comments do for the Gosselins or anyone else. I am a grandmother and have watched every show and have noticed the changes in Kate and Jon, and I feel very sad for them and the children. But I do not think the continual trashing of them is very helpful or christian.* * *

Here's my perspective. I am a single mom of one child. I know how hard and tiring it can be at times, to work all day, provide for me and my son, and take care of him as my other full time job. So initially I watched the show and empathized with Kate, especially with her being so glad to see Jon come home at night and "take over" for her.

But little by little, I was at first dismayed and then ultimately horrified by the way Kate treated her own children. She did and said things to them that I would be ashamed if I did myself. It ranges from the pettiness of not letting the boys have the cupcakes they decorated themselves, and making them watch as the girl tups got to eat theirs (so pettishly cruel and unnecessary), to leaving Collin sitting on the potty in the dark, until he could urinate (what kind of mom does that? That's not how you potty train a child, and it's not loving either).

Then to the more serious infractions, bordering on child abuse -- one of the boys was sick with the flu, and no doubt feverish and feeling truly terrible. It's frightening to a young child to be sick - that's when they need love and comfort the most. Kate made that poor child lay on the laundry room floor with nothing between him and that floor but a thin blanket, and then she left and shut the door. Nothing says "you are of no value to me" like treating your sick child like dirt.

This is why I post here. Because my outrage at the way Kate Gosselin treats her children has no bounds. I am not a perfect mother, and sometimes I get exasperated with my son. But let me tell you something -- when that child is sick, hurt, or sad -- I'm there 100% with him. Nothing else matters except taking care of my child. For Kate, nothing takes precedence over doing what she wants to do (sick kids? leave them with Aunt Jodi! Now she leaves them with the nanny.)

I apologize for the length of this response. In closing, I will say this: Kate is not a good person. In fact, she is a very bad person. She does not truly love her children, and that's about a low as a mom can go. The only person Kate loves is herself. The children are accessories, brought out and "worn" when convenient, to make her look better, to help bring her money, to bolster her own sick ego. When the cameras are off and no one is around, you better believe she shunts those kids off to the not-a-nanny in a heartbeat.

I do not belong to any particular religion or church. I believe in a higher power, or higher good. Most of all, I believe that one should live the best life you can, contribute to the world around you, treat others with kindness and respect, be of a loving and generous spirit. In my view, Kate has not met any of those standards, and by calling herself Christian, she's just tarnishing that particular image. Because of people like Kate, and before her, televangelists, I don't trust anyone who loudly proclaims how Christian they are. The holier they pretend to be, the worse they are.

ThePaginator said...

Let's not forget the big fan who took her daughter out of school to go to NYC and drool over kate. She claims Kate said she "couldn't wait to go home for dinner," but we all saw her on LKL that night so she didn't go home. Either Kate is lying (no way) or that big ignorant fan is lying. Will she admit she lied? No way. They are one of the same. BabyKateOneMama!

Jessica said...

You reject every comment that comes your way that goes against your opinions...it's pathetic.

My5blessings said...

Bottom line? Maybe this is an unpopular opinion but I feel more sorry for Kate. She just doesn't know how to love. Meanwhile, her childish, moronic husband just enters bars, finds hotties to f**k, and there ya go. He's happy.

It's sadder than sad. It's quite tragic. In the end, the children suffer.
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Oh man, not me. If K showed any compassion for any other living soul other than herself, perhaps one could conjure up sympathy for her. I have never seen her sorry for anyone but herself. She's got to be the most "me" person I've ever seen. She can turn ANY situation back onto herself, even when meeting with precious children suffering with Cancer. Someone that was related back to HER and her bedrest. Give me a break.
They put their life out there. As K would say and almost brag-- "the good, bad and the ugly" well, it's the ugly........ She's was willing to get paid dam good money to show the ugly and show it they have.
The more I read, the great my sympathy pours out for her children, for ALL the children on these shows. I refuse to post without making mention of all these children being exploited. It is not just these 8. Remember them all.
Just a sidenote..... K does know how to love, she loves herself dearly.

ThePaginator said...

'Kate deserves the occassional day away from the stress of being home 24 hours a day and raising eight children'.Ha ha.

givemeabreak said...

There's a big difference between what this person calls "hate gossip" and looking out for the interest of CHILDREN!!

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Since when is making snarky remarks about kates hair for the children? I know this post wont go through. But seriously, if you all are gong to say that is what you are here for then why dont the majority of the comments reflect it? Most of the time they are hateful!

My5blessings said...

Pinkdiamonds wrote:

That the Kons were on another reality show, and had their entire house made over for them, but Kate publicly complained. From reading this site I found these FACTS, but if I had never found this site, how is the average person supposed to know? Kudos to the mods for enlightening outsiders to the facts, and not publishing rumors unless they are confirmed.
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This is so true. I actually never thought about it this way but yes. How would you know. Who has the time to dedicate to so much research.
Kudos is right, thank you all really who have shared what you have discovered. We all knew the children of all these shows are exploited but the level of exploitation was far beyond what I had ever considered.

Now, Pink..... I had no idea they were on another "reality" show.
What was it?
I have to say I'm amazed everyone just about, saw J&k from the beginning. I didn't find out about it until I saw reruns.... I suppose I'm grateful for that.
So pony up on the name, curious here!

ThePaginator said...

Momofthree
Welcome to the dark side.

ThePaginator said...

givemeabreak:

Kids lives are being destroyed by selfish parents. If we can get a little laugh by making fun of her hair, why not? Sometimes we get sick of worrying about the children since their own parents would rather have "things" than a happy family. So, yes, we go off topic but our main concern has and always will be the kids. Humor helps when things are difficult to deal with. Watching those kids be exploited is painful to watch. Making fun of Kate's hair is a break from the seriousness of child exploitation.

My5blessings said...

The Gosselins have never cared about the privacy of their children. We've seen baths and potty training and Jon inserting his finger in order to get one of his sons to have a bowel movement. All that loss of privacy didn't seem to bother the parents.
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As usual, a great post.

Yet again, I have to say I never saw this and actually feel sick, physically reading this.

As always, my heart just breaks for these children and wonder when these shows will be extinguished.

We all know the fall out for the children will never end. This is something that will haunt them forever........

we said...

Kate was in the old house/garage going through stuff and came across the kids memory box's just lying there...That is exaclty wher her book will be one day. In a box in the garage.

Sue said...

My5Blessings said:

The Gosselins have never cared about the privacy of their children. We've seen baths and potty training and Jon inserting his finger in order to get one of his sons to have a bowel movement. All that loss of privacy didn't seem to bother the parents

Can you imagine as a man going out and you walk up to a woman and she says "Hey I am Susie" (random name) and he says. " I am Collin Gosselin " and she says "Oh yea I KNOW YOU!!! I saw your Dad pulling poop out of your butt" And then I saw you sitting on Beth's driveway peeing on a "potty" and you sat there for a long time b/c it was cold and cameras were on you!!! yes I know, before anyone corrects me that it could of been different kids in each situation. but I do beleive it was Collin in both.

Anyways, Can you imagine!!!?????

H.S Drop out but not dumb said...

People I am one of the GWoP posters and I am guilty of not using apostrophes,commas,I write run on sentences,incorrect spelling and not indenting. You see I didn't graduate from high school because I got pregnant and I dropped out so that I could raise my daughter. Although I don't advocate dropping out one bit but I am doing the best I can. That was 34 years ago. Please be a little more kind when some of use don't have proper grammer. But I do know how to spell CHILD EXPLOITATION and GREED!

Sue said...

another site said

Can you believe that they are already turning 5? I wanted to also have for you the Sneak Peak commercial for the new season! Also included is last year's Sextuplet's Turn 4. After watching it, it's amazing to see what the fuss was all about.

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The fuss was you hand feed Hannah and and the BOYS ate but you refused to give them their cupcakes! And if you look while Mady is "feeding" Hannah there isn't another plate on the table!! Hannah is the only one with a "paper" plate in front of her. The boys are eating fruit??? SO confused


My wish is!!

I hope on their 5th birthday they get to take their bibs off, that they get to sit on a 'real" chair at the table. Yes, they may sit at the table like an adult! Hey Cara and Mady had normal chairs at 4? (thinking of when the show started).

So anyways my wish to Colllin, Joel, Aaden, Leah, Alexis and Hannah is that you are finally treated like children on your birthday! YOu were NEVER even allowed to be toddlers. You went from the "babies' to the "babies" Guess nothing has changed!!!

Sue said...
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Sue said...

We said:
Kate was in the old house/garage going through stuff and came across the kids memory box's just lying there...That is exaclty wher her book will be one day. In a box in the garage.

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Funny part was the fact she left "the memory" boxes behind when the moved. Then she picked up "random" boxes and said "these are the memory boxes (or something along those lines)! Sorry I used to work for a mover...those were EMPTY...She just picked it up with one hand ..no effort, nothing!!! Maybe she should of stopped touring and made REALLY HEAVY scrapbooks...or photo albums. I am not creative so scrap booking wouldn't work for me, but even a photo album in a box is heavy!

Sue said...
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Was once 13... said...

While the person who wrote this comment has very outdated and incorrect information, I hate to pass judgment because I imagine a 13-year old girl wrote it. It may even be one of those fans that collects pictures/videos of the Gosselin kids and creates Youtube montages. I could write a whole analysis on how/why young kids are so blindly devoted to this show and so enamored by someone else's kids. IMO, it's a hormonal response, similar to the way girls that age respond so passionately to boy bands and other trends. These are the same kids that will fight tooth and nail to validate the Jonas Brothers or Miley Cyrus. For young girls that are just physically able to become pregnant, I can understand the draw to the show. But until they are socially old enough to be responsible mothers, they won't understand the exploitation of the Gosselin kids and why they need to be protected. They will see nothing wrong with making videos and desktop wallpapers of kids that don't belong to them.

I'll share a quick story with you. Long ago when I was 16, I was participating in my last dance recital, so I brought a camera with me to the dress rehearsal. I was taking random shots of the kids performing when a mom asked me if I had a sister on stage. I told her no and said this was my last recital and I wanted a few pictures for memories. She gave me this dirty look and just said, "...Ok" At the time I thought her attitude was totally out of line and I didn't understand her side at all. But in hindsight, I can see how I could have upset a mother or two. I should not have been taking photos of other people's children without asking, but at that age, I didn't know any better.

Sorry this is kind of off topic. I don't mean to stereotype, but I very much remember being a girl that age. In 1990 I was a huge fan of the then 4-year old Olsen twins and NKOTB. I was so much like the young Gosselin "sheeple" back then, so I try to be a little sympathetic to their passion (and ignorance, in this case).

Shannon said...

Kate, honey, it's a little late for April Fool's jokes.

CMAACLHJ said...

Happy Mother's Day to you all! Enjoy your day.

pinkdiamond611 said...

Here is a link that tells about the Gosselin's first time on a reality show.http://archive.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/history/topic/179213-1.html As previously stated, I learned all this info from this blog. There is further information online where you can read posts that Jon Gosselin made complaining that he had to pay taxes on his makeover. I don't have all the info saved, only in my head, lol, but the mods have all the info someplace on this blog, along with the links to the articles where Kate complains about the makeover.

highondegrassi said...

This poster needs meds immediately. They are clearly delusional and out of touch with reality. I feel sorry for the mods here. It can't be easy wading through inane BS everyday from blind sheeple.

Heidi said...

You always notice when someone comes on to bash us for our opinions, it is almost always about how we make fun of Kate`s hair?
They never defend all the other disgusting things she does to her family that we talk about. It is always.."Why do you make fun of Kate`s appearance? If you really cared about the kids, you would not do that!"
We do it because it is necessary. Sometimes after watching the show (which I haven't done is some time now), we have to have a good laugh to stop from crying. Her flockofseagulls hair-dont is one of the ways we lighten the moments.
Is it mean? Yes.
Is it childish? Yes.
Will we stop? No.

It is a defense mechanism that many people have. You feel so sorry and sad about something. You sometimes will find a way to change your mood so that you do not feel that way just for a bit.

delilahboyd said...

I found the website of the company hired to do the Gosselins' original NBC home makeover:

http://www.fauxinteriors.com/nbc.php

There are lots of before & after pics.

Evidently, Kate hated it.

Not good enough for her?

Typical.

monica in pa said...

Tangerine Tanya said...
Follower of Kate,

Christian is as christian does.

Maybe the SAHM (barf) will fax a happy birthday note to the 8 children that she left at home or maybe call and remind them to read that book she wrote so that they can know how much she loves them.

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Very well said. It reminded me that there are 6 beautiful children waking up this fine morning excited about turning 5 and their mother (possibly) isn't even there to say Happy Birthday. It actually made my eyes well up for a second. So sad:(

I couldn't stand this woman before today and everything she now stands for. But today, I realized I loathe her because if I (a total stranger) can be moved to almost tears over this, imagine the hurt inside and tears shed by each and every one of those children at the hands of their parents.

Happy Birthday to Alexis, Aaden, Collin, Hannah, Leah, And Joel!!!

And Happy Mother's Day to all the REAL mom's today:D

It has always been said that any man can be a sperm doner, but it takes a real man to be a Dad. I believe it can now be said that any woman can be an egg doner, but it takes a real woman to be a true mother!! (please no backlash from those of you who may have or have had fertility trouble, this is not an insult toward any of you. Just a saying I thought I would turn around since it fit so nicely.)

gowayJandK said...

You reject every comment that comes your way that goes against your opinions...it's pathetic.


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No, K8 and Jane and their flock of sheeple are pathetic. If you want to engage in sheeple conversation, this is not the place.

Katie O said...

I get those types of responses on the Facebook J&K page. I'm not sure which show these people are watching... To think that Jon is still employed and that Kate will EVER go back to something like nursing that she probably believes is below her now because of her "celebrity status" is laughable. I've tried to tell as many people as possible about the chefs, gardeners, nannies, and, most of all, the EXPLOITED CHILDREN. The responses are always the same - I am jealous. Laughable! That's everyone's answer to anything - "She's just jealous of the cute kids and their success." I never want what they have - an unsuccessful marriage and a huge therapy bill coming very soon (100 bucks an hour for all 8 kids, 2 times a week? There goes the "college fund"!)

Thanks for the giggle on Mother's Day! Thankfully, I'm celebrating with my husband, my beautiful toddler, and (here's the kicker) MY MOTHER, MY GRANDMOTHER, MY AUNT, AND MY GRANDMOTHER-IN-LAW (also known as family!)

timetogokon said...

While the person who wrote this comment has very outdated and incorrect information, I hate to pass judgment because I imagine a 13-year old girl wrote it.

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Recently, we were on a Spring Break vacation with my husband's entire side of the family (yes, K8, I love my immediate and extended families!). One day I was sitting on the veranda with my 13 yo niece and I asked her if she still liked J&K (she had told me last year that she liked the show). She said yes, she thinks the kids are so cute. I asked her if she would want K8 for her mom. She said, "Well, she can be kinda mean".

I then showed her a few of the "age appropriate" articles/comments about KON. I told her that as a favor to her favorite Auntie, please stop watching the show. I have spoken with her a couple times since then (long distance) and she promised me that she has not watched since our vacation. Yay !


BTW Happy Mother's Day all. And to the Mods, I hope you get a looooooooong spa treatment after dealing with the craziness of the past 2 weeks =)

Jo Ann said...

Hey Sharla, just for chuckle's sake, how about posting a blog entry about some of those rejected letters for our amusement? (you can *bleep* out bad words, etc, that these oh-so-holy sheeple spew! LOL!! Really, I'd love to read some of these rejects. I need the laugh.

stunned said...

H.S Drop out but not dumb said...
“… I am guilty of not using apostrophes, commas, I write run on sentences, incorrect spelling and not indenting. You see I didn't graduate from high school because I got pregnant and I dropped out so that I could raise my daughter…”
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Dear H.S.,

I never saw any of your other posts, but I didn’t have any trouble reading this one. :-) I’m not saying you need to, but someday if you want to have a look, there are a few pages of grammar review in Stephen King’s book, "On Writing." He used to be a highschool English teacher before he made it big, and does a good job. The rest of the book is pretty good, too—casual and friendly. A lot of libraries probably have it. Happy Mother’s Day!

Punkin2448 said...

Dear Mis-informed Blogger or whatever your name is:


Come toward the light! Come toward the light!

NotUsuallyAGrammarChecker said...

Oh my! said...
Where to start?

Of course, my eye is assaulting by the lack of apostrophes in words like "don't" and "that's," and the use of "then" in place of "than." That type of writing always makes me think immediately (fairly or not), that the writer is poorly educated, perhaps not very bright.

For this writer, I have to choose between "not very bright" and "hasn't watched the show any time in the past two years." Jon clearly stated on the show that he had quit his IT job. After a short period of attempting to pretend that he was "working from home," he and Kate both revealed on the show and in interviews that "working from the home" means being a stay-at-home-father.

There is NO income coming into that home other than what is earned thanks to those children.

Of course, since the writer can't be bothered to watch the show, she won't know from interviews that Kate DID go looking for a television show, just like Octomom. Only Kate didn't have the high media profile that Octomom has, so Kate had to shop around her own videotape of her children.

I wonder what it's like to live in the writer's world, where facts and reality can simply be ignored? Seems like it must be nice. So many Kon fans seem to have established residency there.

5/09/2009 3:19 PM

Maude said...

I've had it up to here with the Christian defense being abused by those who disagree with us. I happen to be related to two Christians. Neither has ever said a negative thing about anyone else, they go to church every Sunday, in other words, they live what they believe. I've never heard either of them proclaim themselves a "Christian". Though the rest of the family has different beliefs, we totally respect theirs. We know everyone has their own path.


Is judging in the Christian faiths a sin? Than judging someone who has judged is a sin as well right? How do they justify that?


I'm not a Christian. I don't believe in "sins". I do believe in doing your best every day.


My point is: unless you can walk the walk, please spare us the talk.

Scruffy's Mom said...

It's that stupid lead-in for each show that still says Jon works as an IT guy ... and all the sheeple still believe it. i can't believe how gullible the sheeple are ...

I would LOVE to know just exactly how many days Jon HAS worked in his lifetime. I betcha they wouldn't even add up to a year.

Rachel said...

Kate is a sham- down to her store bought boobs!

ICSillyPeople said...

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ha haaaaa He heeeee he Oh help me .... I'm surprised she found the keys on the keyboard.

so irritated said...

Rachel said...
Kate is a sham- down to her store bought boobs!

LOL! By the looks of recent photos of Kate, she got a little more in L.A. than a dinner at Mr. Chows!!!

MomIAm said...

Maude said "I've had it up to here with the Christian defense being abused by those who disagree with us. I happen to be related to two Christians. Neither has ever said a negative thing about anyone else, they go to church every Sunday, in other words, they live what they believe. I've never heard either of them proclaim themselves a "Christian". Though the rest of the family has different beliefs, we totally respect theirs. We know everyone has their own path."

I agree with you. In my opinion, those who talk the most about being Christian and who spout the familiar religious sayings, are not true Christians giving those who are a bad name. They are "faux" Christians. It's about time they were recognized for being fakes, and for people to stop blaming good Christians for the bad actions of others.

One California Mom said...

HS Dropout--You're doing fine. Don't worry about people who don't know the difference between assaulted and assaulting, who feel like they must correct others. Or even the people who don't know the difference between ironic and coincidence.
Happy Mother's Day

H.S. Drop Out but not dumb said...

Sue,
Thank you for your explanation and apology. The reason that I said what I did was because when our wonderful Mod's posted the comment from one of Kate's sheeple some of the folks here were critcizing her grammer/spelling. I then felt somewhat defensive I suppose. But all is well and your letter made me feel much better. It seems like you are a kind and considerate person. Thank you!

We are all in agreement on how we feel about Kate and Jon.

I wish that the sheeple would understand that it is the adults in Gosselin family that we have a problem with and NOT the sweet little children.

Now this is some advise to the person who sent in their opinion on behalf of Jon/Kate.

DO YOUR HOMEWORK...!!!!

I dare say I am smarter then she is.

H.S drop out said...

stunned,
Thank you for the advise on reading material! I definitely will check it out as I do love reading(especially these highly amusing and intelligent posts!)

One California Mom,
Thank you also!

I know that the negative comments were not intended for me but for the follower that posted her comment here.

Anyway...Time to move on!

I will however make a comment so that this is not all about me and try to keep on track here.

These sheeple are completely delusional if they think that Kate would even take one second on her life to give them the time of the day given the chance.

Addison said...

SandyW said...

Addison,

Your friend needs a ticket to Kentucky's Creation Museum where the dinosaurs and people lived in harmony

http://www.creationmuseum.org/

No really.
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Hehe, thanks for the link, SandyW! What a weird place...I'm not really friends with that girl anymore, though. All of her talk about God just got old after awhile. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with Christians in general, but she was just way over the top in her beliefs and had no interest in respecting anyone else's ideas about anything.

Not sure if she watches J and K + 8, but if she does, I kind of bet she's a sheeple.

Is She Brain Dead? said...

Wow! Just...you know,... WOW! This woman's comments don't even reflect what Kon themselves tell the public.

Laura said...

That comment would be funny if it weren't so pathetically sad and out of touch.

She must be watching reruns from when the series first aired.

Dissent is not judgement. It is simply our opinion.

Melibee said...

Wow, she sure told us!

ROFL

Auntie Mip said...

I hate to break it to whoever wrote this post, but as a masters prepared nurse educator with 21 years experience...Kate could NOT "get a job anytime she wants". The economy is in the toilette and nearly every hospital and outpatient center in the country is operatig under a hiring freeze. RN's, even baccalaureate prepared RN's, are unable to find jobs as of today, May 10, 2009. By the way...be very afraid should you or anyone you love require hospitalization...healthcare is a travesty in this country.

And as for Jon... he is not working. And clearly with his lack of skills he would not be a hot commodidity in the market place.

Finally, I take great offense at the suggestion that I am not a Christian if I don't believe the Gosselin SPIN!!! Just as this poster is entitled to his/her opinion ...so am I. And my opinion seems to be supported by statements straight from the horses mouth. Even Kate is "hesitant" to believe the tabloids! As a Christian I believe the Lord would take a dim view of pimping your children for your own selfish gain. And as a nurse who had worked extensivley in pediatric oncolgy I am saddened that Kate and Jon don't seem to value the blessings they have been given. If you ask me there's is the less than Chsitian lifestyle!

NahnCee said...

"By the way...be very afraid should you or anyone you love require hospitalization...healthcare is a travesty in this country."

Had surgery in February. Felt totally pampered, tended to, and cared for. A totally excellent experience ... but then I have pretty good health insurance. (Not a Kate-nurse-type in sight.)

Jennifer D said...

My own mother could have written this. I was just at her house and we talked about this topic where she stated "Jon HAS a job!" and refused to accept that in fact, he doesn't. She defended him regarding the "other woman" and claimed that the pictures/reports prove nothing. She can't even accept that the show is not filming even 1/2 of the 6,000 sq foot palace that the queen lives in. "They needed the extra room for all those children"....and she BELIEVES that.

I live in a home that is just under 1/2 that size and it works just fine for our family of 7.

planey_janey said...

Though facts are "out there," I'm going to use "alleged" frequently in this post. Cause if the show ends, I don't want to be contributing $$ to the Gosselin Cash Cow by losing a fight about slander or libel.

I've read this blog for a while, and had read some of the old threads that spawned the blogs, but had no idea of the alleged machinations of this couple behind the scenes with Aunt Jodi and Beth and the like.

I was not a frequent viewer of this show; had only caught a few episodes early in its run. I hadn't seen "Surviving Twins, Twins and Sextuplets" until a couple of weeks ago -- coincidentally, it aired shortly after the "Go Green" episode.

I created a timer on my DVR and spent Friday evening catching up on several shows from 2007, 2008, and perhaps even earlier.

My thoughts are this: This family knew exactly what they were doing. From the allegations that Jon was seeking freebies and said, "I'll never have to work again" before the twins were born -- to Kate saying over and over on the first hour special -- "We are recording aren't we Jon? Jon, are we recording?" -- to reading in reputable news outlets and on this blog that the Gosselins held press conferences when the tups were brought home -- to the allegations that Kate shopped her family around regarding a reality show and TLC bit -- all are indications that this couple knew exactly what they were doing. I would venture to guess there are many video tapes of Mady and Cara when young and probably some of their ... what, 5? ... months as a married couple before the twins came along.

I am not convinced by the argument that "certainly we didn't know what we were getting into." I would wager that Kate reads the very magazines in which her family is covered, and that over the years, she has seen how lucrative reality shows can be -- and how famous it can make a person when circumstances converge.

TLC's emphasis on large family type shows probably sparked the idea. Didn't they air one-hour specials on the Duggars and the Roloffs before those shows became actual episodic television? I know they did with the Duggars...from child 14 on.

I've read so much of this blog, but not every post yet, and know this probably has been said ad infinitum -- in my opinion, Kate likes the babies, but not the messy work of the babies. In my opinion, from what is shown on the television, she does not appear to like toddlers or children.

It is patently obvious that she cares for appearance above all else. Those with children or who babysit children for friends or family, or who babysat as a teen, know that children get messy and mucky and full of puss at times and need diaper changes.

So for someone who is so obviously oriented on presenting the perfect image, as the footage from the show plainly reveals, to decide to have fertility treatments at 23 years old, having been married less than a year, is strange to me. I just don't get it.

It was interesting to see, as well, the "spin control" mentioned in many of these posts during the mini-marathon -- I paid particularly close attention to the decorations in the kitchen, on the refrigerator, etc., and it was interesting to see when the Bible verses popped up all over that house. Were it me, I'd have gotten my childrens age-appropriate Bibles. Zondervan could've gifted a few illustrated children's Bibles to the family...

Anyway, it was interesting to see that, and I wondered if it was Kate's idea or TLCs, as the Gs had frequently said their faith was off the table for the show. Then all of a sudden there are oblique references to it every where, even to a shirt Kate wore with a passage from Romans on it (think it was 10:9).

The progression of the hairstyle also was interesting. It wouldn't surprise me if the idea for that style was also born out of television -- remember when everyone wanted Jennifer Aniston's layered look, which became known as "The Rachel?"

I wonder if Kate was shooting for her style to be called "The Kate"...

Thank you mods, for what you do, and contributors, for all that you contribute.

Husky said...

planey-janey, great observation re: the very incremental increases in Christian references and bible phrases in the show over time.

Do they pray before meals? No biggie in general either way, but it seems as though if it were not a family habit from the start, it would be awkward to start later. If the Christian card is the ticket to the big payoff from the loyal base, I can certainly see how it would be a calculated move on the part of Jon and Kate to exploit it.

For the skeptical, it will be a hard sell, though. They don't really seem to actually eat dinner as a family, rather, they orbit around feeding the children. I'm not knocking that in particular- it must be difficult to feed that many young children- but many large families do manage to sit and eat together. My parents made sure of it, and there were eight of us. No one ate until mom was ready to sit down.

The hijacking of Christianity by opportunists depresses me. It's not what it's about.

galingale said...

I m SICK of these television news shows claiming "poor Kate" when they are discussing the situation, and the endless people calling in saying they hope the show runs "forver".

Kate is also part of the problem.

Baker said...

Kate...is that you??

Tami said...

OK, so is this person going to re-visit this blog and read these comments in response to the diatribe, or was it a drive-by poster?

goawayJandK said...

Do they pray before meals?

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Oh, they tried to pray before feasting on seafood in the OBX episode. The kids had already started to eat when K8 said some stupid "prayer" about being grateful to live in a free country (yeah K8, we know how you love anything FREE). It was glaringly obvious that praying before meals was not the norm.

Praying or not is not the issue, but again, when K8 and Jane credit/blame God, depending on how it benefits them, then giving thanks for their meals would seem to be a no-brainer for these no-brainers.

...Amy... said...

Scruffy's Mom said...
It's that stupid lead-in for each show that still says Jon works as an IT guy
Actually, it doesn't say that Jon is an IT analyst anymore...I noticed that they took that sound bite off late last year. But I'm sure the Sheeple will say that it's b/c his new employer doesn't want the public to know what his new job involves...but we all know the truth.

RealMom said...

Yes I think Jon is a computer it guy because he does own a computer ..and Yes, I do think Kate can get a nursing job anytime she wants by calling the doctor who used to live in her new mansion (remember how she trashed his moldy fridge and dirty house for all the world to see) and asking if there are any openings ...LOL I guess she missed the remodeling episode where Kate was complaining about Jon being busy with the remodel and SHE had to take care of the kids downstairs. He also was employed at the time and she said she wished Jon could be home with them. She really wanted him home and it was never mentioned again but Jon was not going out to work anymore. I don't remember which remodel, the twins' room or the garage. She was pissed because she needed him and he was trying to work.I couldn't believe how selfish she was. I hear Kate was at a Sam's Club on Saturday. Anybody go?

ick said...

Delilah, maybe Kate wasn't ungrateful about the home makeover. Maybe she was grateful, but didn't like the style. I just looked at the pics from the link you posted, and the bathroom, twins' room and nursery looked hideous to me. I wouldn't be happy at all if someone did that to my house. The living room and master bedroom were okay.

RobyninReading said...

I hear Kate was at a Sam's Club on Saturday. Anybody go?

I missed her by one day, according to the worker at Sam's today. DARN IT! LOL! I'd have got pics and video. I'm really surprised they allowed cameras in (if in fact they did).

planey_janey said...

RE: the Christianity issue -- I can see TLC advising them to tone it down, as they already had two shows on the air where the families were families of faith, the Duggars and the Roloffs. So objectively, I can agree with the statement that they were asked to tone it down or leave it at the door by TLC.

TLC probably didn't want to be known as the "religious, huge family channel" any more than they want their sister channel to be known as the "My big huge medical problem" channel," but it has still shaped up that way for TLC and Discovery.

So I think the verses posted on index cards throughout the house and the shirt Kate wore in the camp-out episode and the shirt one of the tups wore that had a Biblical reference in the camp out episode (think it was Joel) were for pure spin control and marketing purposes.

I write verses on note cards, but keep those in my purse or somewhere private, not out stuck all around my house for show. My Bible is out where ever I leave it after a day's reading, but it's not left front-and-center for company or family to see, because it's just part of who I am, so it is as much of a nomad around the house as other books I have.

Point being, yes, faith is part of a person's persona, but it isn't a show pony to trot out. It's just part of who we are, and not something to which we have to call attention. Christ even talks often about the private nature of faith and prayer, and often went off by Himself in private to commune with God.

Had I seen that episode without foreknowledge, I'd have thought, "OK, she's trying to 'train her children in the way they should go so they will not depart from it,' as the proverb goes."

But having read so many factual accounts of this show, and TLC's alleged involvement in trying to pay Jodi and/or Beth for their time, and their refusal -- both women of faith, as evidenced by hearing of their histories, Jodi being married to her brother, a preacher's kid and likely both are members of Calvary, where her Dad was a pastor, and Beth, a church member who volunteered for the show, I am of a mindset that spells spin or marketing.

Why would, all of a sudden, those verses appear, unless TLC or Jon and Kate were responding to criticism they'd read?

The whole marketing team behind this show has been a dollar late and a penny short. You'd think, being in the reality TV biz, they'd have better predicted / had better foresight into what may happen down the road as the twins and tups grew up.

Which is all OK with me -- if this show implodes, it will be all the better for the children as far as no cameras in their faces and no industrial lights in their house and no crew at the ready for the majority of the week.

The sooner that happens, the better; those children already are Atlas, pushing a planet of experience they'd never have chosen up a hill, and it won't end just because the show ends.

But the sooner the show ends, the more quickly -- and hopefully, the more easily -- they will rebound.

TVsnark said...

Jennifer D.
My mom told me she saw Kate on the Today show (she doesn't have any interest in the show) and that she thinks Kate is very "well spoken and eloquent."

Love my mom . . .

bowtiejess said...

I love this site and I was glad to find I am not the only one who is disgusted by this show.
I am sad to admit that I used to like the show a few years ago. When my husband came home from Iraq he saw it a few times and was spot on when he said so this is about people who get free things for a living?
I admit I read her book and was turned off by the way she excused all of her not-so-flattering behavior. She was rude to the people who came to help feed and take care of the tups. Well, that is only because she was so tired, worried about money etc. She was rude when her home makeover was unveiled. Well that is excused due to her being tired again and stressed about this or that. If I acted like that every time I was tired or felt stress my family and friends wouldn't want anything to do with me either! I would be amazed if she ever took responsibility for her actions!
I am enjoying reading the recaps because I cannot stand to watch the show and don't want my 2 year old to see it anymore. When a 2 year old points at one of the kids on the TV and says "She's crying. She's sad." it's a testament to how bad it's become.

Donna said...

Oh my god, tallblonde. That is HILARIOUS.

GoawayKate said...

I am not sure it has been mentioned or not. But the Gosselins did go looking for this. They were contacted by TLC/ FIgure 8 only after they had shopped around some home videos for a documentary idea, after Kate's obsession with the Dilly's had proved to be successful with their "update" shows on today, ect.
This is the infromation that I heard.

bowtiejess said...

Sorry, I left out an important word in my earlier post. When my daughter says one of the children is crying and sad again. If she is repeatedly thinking that it's not something I feel she should watch.
I hope and pray this show ends...and soon!

HereinNC said...

Here is a story in contrasts--a mother of 7 who not only does not get handouts, but recognizes that Kate and Jon are on the take. Not all of us may agree with this woman's choice to have 7 children, but she certainly could teach Kate a thing or two about mothering. Be sure to read through to the end, to see that the reason the story was published in the first place is because her eldest daughter wrote to the newspaper to say what a great mom she had.

http://www.thetimes-tribune.com/articles/2009/05/11/lifestyles/sc_times_trib.20090510.f.pg1.tt10mothersday_s1.2500354_fea1.txt

My5blessings said...

OK, so is this person going to re-visit this blog and read these comments in response to the diatribe, or was it a drive-by poster?
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Drive by, packing a water gun:)

I have a hard time believing that post was "real" I think some people surf and find the site and just screw around to get a reaction.

They love the response they get....
I could be wrong, just my take.

Knitted_in_the_Womb said...

Jennifer D. said:
I live in a home that is just under 1/2 that size and it works just fine for our family of 7.I have a family of 5 also, and have a 2200 square foot house...of which, we have a SPARE bedroom, and really, do we "need" a separate family room & livingroom when we've already devoted the dining room to being a play room (we have a "breakfast nook" that fits our table quite nicely)?

Not really.

Jenn...maiden names starts with a "D"

met said...

You know who was in my town years ago?! REESE WITHERSPOON! Her first husband's parents live in my city and she was at the local market BY HERSELF! NO BODYGUARD! No one bothered her either. Now she is a star! Kate is WAY to FULL of herself.

Rachel said...

We just started getting this show in Hong Kong, where I live, and I confess that I had begun to wonder why Jon was around all the time, etc. I'm also curious to know why Kate is so adamant about 'organic' yet uses paper plates and plastic cutlery without obvious concern for the environment. Was that covered on the Green episode? Unlikely...

goawayJandK said...

I am not sure it has been mentioned or not. But the Gosselins did go looking for this. They were contacted by TLC/ FIgure 8 only after they had shopped around some home videos for a documentary idea, after Kate's obsession with the Dilly's had proved to be successful with their "update" shows on today, ect.
This is the infromation that I heard.

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If you remember the first special, K8 looks into the camera and says "This is my life, no it's not glamorous, thanks for watching."

Glaringly obvious that this was meant to be shopped around, and not just a home movie.

Robin said...

*Shrug* Everyone has the right to their opinion. I won't berate her for seeing thigs different than I do. I don't like Kate, I don't support the show, and that's that.

whatsthestorythisweek said...

You know who was in my town years ago?! REESE WITHERSPOON! Her first husband's parents live in my city and she was at the local market BY HERSELF! NO BODYGUARD! No one bothered her either. Now she is a star! Kate is WAY to FULL of herself.

I just reviewed photographs of Julia Roberts and her family ( hubby and twins) vacationing in Hawaii sans nanny and a body gaurd.
I really dont understand why Kate Gosselin feels so 'threatened' by the public and her 'adoring fans' that she requires a full time body gaurd to accompany her even doing the most routine of tasks such as tanning and shopping at Target?

coyote-38609 said...

"... and Jon inserting his finger in order to get one of his sons to have a bowel movement...

Might want to stick to the facts as to what was actually on film. Your credibility is less apt to be questioned.

timetogokon said...

Kate is WAY to FULL of herself.
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I was lucky enough to travel to Maui with my husband's side of the family a few weeks ago. In the game room of our hotel, my son and his cousins played Guitar Hero next to Arnold Schwarzenegger (SP?) and his kids playing video games. Not a bodyguard in site for this movie star/politician.

My5blessings said...

Husky wrote:

For the skeptical, it will be a hard sell, though. They don't really seem to actually eat dinner as a family, rather, they orbit around feeding the children. I'm not knocking that in particular- it must be difficult to feed that many young children- but many large families do manage to sit and eat together. My parents made sure of it, and there were eight of us. No one ate until mom was ready to sit down.

The hijacking of Christianity by opportunists depresses me. It's not what it's about.
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I completely agree. While it might be hard to sit down together, it absolutely can be done. Not buying the "we have so many children" crap.
It seems to be their excuse for everything. It's why Kate says she is so nasty to Jon according to her, you'd be nasty too if you had "that many children" Ummmmmm nope, I wouldn't be.
First of all, SHE doesn't have that many children because she doesn't take care of them. It's so crazy.
As far as highjacking Christian values for the benefit of their show as well as Church "love offerings' you betcha. While I don't know what is truly in their hearts, from an outsider looking in as they have ALLOWED us to do, I can say it sure doesn't appear to be a loving Christian home.
They can write as many Biblical quotes as they wish, still doesn't make one a Christian. Again, between them and God.
However............... I do think it's very dishonest to take money from people who you have misrepresented yourself to.
I imagine young Mother's and Old ladies donating their hard earned cash to these ungrateful people.
I did hear her say her fans were "silly and ridiculous" from her mouth!

Yes He Does said...

timetogokon said...

I was lucky enough to travel to Maui with my husband's side of the family a few weeks ago. In the game room of our hotel, my son and his cousins played Guitar Hero next to Arnold Schwarzenegger (SP?) and his kids playing video games. Not a bodyguard in site for this movie star/politician.
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Perhaps you just didn't notice the bodyguards. Arnold Schwarzenegger most certainly has bodyguards, as do his children.

It's One Way, Not the ONLY Way said...

H.S. drop out but not dumb,
You obviously have a lot skills that cannot be taught at school. Your empathy toward the underdo, in this case a vastly misguided sheeple, is commendable and not the easiest path to take.
It must have been a hard decision to choose to leave school, but you did what you had to do to face your responsibilities as a mother-to-be...and as best I can tell, you didn't exploit your daughter to do so.
So, while it feels weird saying this as I am a teacher, you could have done a lot worse for yourself than dropping out of high school.
I'm glad you have not let society hold you down. I will definitely encourage my students to get their degrees, but for those whose circumstances don't permit it...I'll keep someone like you in mind...

Hilo said...

Moderators - I was curious - did you ever hear back from the author of the post?

concerned said...

Just an observation -

I've seen part of about 6-7 shows and didn't care for what I saw. This blog was linked to another site I visit - that site has nothing to do with these type of shows - three weeks ago and I found a group of people who see the show the same way I do.

If I hadn't checked back here a few times in the last two weeks, I wouldn't have known anything about the book tour, the "affair" or any of the recent news. That's not my world and I don't watch those TV shows where the interviews took place.

So I sort of understand why so many people are clueless about this horrible show. Not everyone reads the net buys tabloid magazines, watches entertainment shows, etc. They don't obsess, they just turn on the program and watch without ever using an ounce of critical thinking.

I suggest rather than make fun of the original poster, people remember what seems to have been the main objective of this blog - to halt the exploitation of the children. Acting like internet bullies is truly unseemly and unncessary.

My5blessings said...

concerned wrote:

Just an observation -

I've seen part of about 6-7 shows and didn't care for what I saw. This blog was linked to another site I visit - that site has nothing to do with these type of shows - three weeks ago and I found a group of people who see the show the same way I do.

If I hadn't checked back here a few times in the last two weeks, I wouldn't have known anything about the book tour, the "affair" or any of the recent news. That's not my world and I don't watch those TV shows where the interviews took place.

So I sort of understand why so many people are clueless about this horrible show. Not everyone reads the net buys tabloid magazines, watches entertainment shows, etc. They don't obsess, they just turn on the program and watch without ever using an ounce of critical thinking.

I suggest rather than make fun of the original poster, people remember what seems to have been the main objective of this blog - to halt the exploitation of the children. Acting like internet bullies is truly unseemly and unncessary.
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I suggest you read more than a "few times" in the past "two weeks"

While yes, you probably have read posts you find distasteful, you also would and should have read many posts expressing great concern not only for the Gosselin children, but ALL children who are unfairly and unjustly exploited by their parents in the name of "security" or "their job"

Moderators and the majority of the people who read this blog work tirelessly to end this exploitation some find entertainment.
They deserve a heartfelt thank you!

I find it odd to write--"Acting like internet bullies is truly unseemly and unnecessary."

I see these reality parents bullying their children and overpowering them as they are in a position to do so and forcing them to hold down a full time job from the age of INFANT on up. To me, that is unseemly and unnecessary. What a breech of trust.

I also find those who do "drive by" posters as bullies themselves. Cowards actually-- inasmuch as they come here......... state their opinions and simply do not have the heart to return. That is cowardly and quite the bully.

People are entitled to express their opinions. Just as you did and just as I am doing. I, however will stick around and defend or explain my post.

As far as people being clueless. Okay, I'll give you the person who hasn't seen the show ( or much of it) is possibly clueless, however we are speaking of people who are dedicated to this show ( myself definitely not included-- Sheeple) They are FAR from clueless. They follow J&K and hang onto their every move. It's very unhealthy to imitate this behavior--to read people act just like her is pretty scary.

I believe all who post here have seen the show, some more than others. Some still do. The majority of information gathered is from persons dedicated to protecting the children who are being exploited on a daily basis.
I've read and learned details just like you, from this site.
It's a beautiful thing to be able to come here and learn more, thus potentially being able to help more.

Knowledge is power.

The goal is to protect the Gosselin children as well as ALL the children who are on these "Reality" shows.

LB said...

I totally forgot about the nursery was made over along with the majority of rooms at their 1st house. The bathroom was sure ugly and I cringed again when I saw the ‘after’ picture. Now I remember that the walls in the nursery were white in the first hour-long special. That’s all I remember of the wall color from that time. How were they able to paint over everything so quickly? I would think that they had to shelter the children somewhere else while they were painted over due to the chemical fumes. I wonder what happened during that time…

Fellow Pennsylvanian. said...

Of all the press releases Jon and Kate have made - NOT ONE do they state that they LOVE EACH OTHER! not once. She said: "hesitant to believe"; He said: "i did not cheat on Kate".

But if the "relationship" is over, than is it cheating to him/her? Maybe not.

Did anyone else see the clip on TMZ where she's getting into the car and they get a shot of the back of her head? Her hair is like shoe polish back there! Why is it blond in the front and brown/black in the back?

They better get their act together before those girls end up on a pole in Vegas - or worse yet - Scranton.

momto5 said...

This sheeple has been blindsided, and probably has been watching old reruns....I have not watched the show in over 6 months and even I know Jon does not work and that Kate is a pretend to sahm. Does this sheeple read the internet?? No christian like behavior coming out of Jon lately. I REALLY am a sahm and I stay home with my kids, no running around the country around here. Maybe errands around town and normal family stuff. And after busting his butt for 21 yrs as a firefighter, my dh just retired and has become a stay at home dad. Around here(my home) the adults paid for the kids livelihood. This sheeple needs to get with it and realize the G's are kons & frauds.

HannaBelleLechter said...

coyote-38609 said...

QUOTE: "... and Jon inserting his finger in order to get one of his sons to have a bowel movement..." [5/09/2009 4:41 PM]
Might want to stick to the facts as to what was actually on film. Your credibility is less apt to be questioned [5/11/09 5:11 PM] ~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Is that right?

I wrote a reply to post here, then thought to check on YouTube for the scene to see if I remembered it correctly. Sure enough, the incident is there for all the worldwide net to see for themselves.

I suggest you look at the scene for yourself. Here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lUh8x9P6eY

Babies & Bedrooms pt1 - Jon & Kate plus 8 (3 of 3)The clip clocks in at 7:29; see around the 4:40 mark. One of the boys is in distress because, he says, "my hiney hurts."

Jon: "So I went out to the van, got a bag, wrapped it in my hand...."Kate: "...the pseudo-glove...."Jon: "...and assisted my son in removing his problem."

[Gestures a long streammmmmming out of the poop.]As we watch Jon standing at the back of the van, there's lots of him ordering "keep pushin...push...push...keep pushin, buddy...yeah it hurts...but keep pushin...push...." Lots of the child crying and replying, "it hurts...it hurts...." One of the other boys stands in the back of the van to witness all of it.

Here's what I wrote before checking YouTube:

This particular thread ("Some People Will Believe Anything") discussed Jon and Kate's new-found hatred of their loss of their own privacy. My comment quoted above dealt with the couple's seeming lack of concern when it came to their children's most private and intimate moments. Where was the Gosselin outrage over the filming and discussion of events most people prefer to keep private?

As I recall, the incident with the child suffering from painful constipation took place during the episode in which the family shopped at a furniture store for new beds for the kids.

One of the boy tups was extremely fussy and increasingly upset and weepy as Kate looked through catalogs, consulted with sales people and checked out floor models. After Kate could take no more of the child's clinginess and crying, she instructed Jon to bring the child outside to their van to help the boy.

IIRC, we did see Jon standing at the back of the open van in the open, public parking lot, with the tot inside the van and lying on his back. No, we did not see a close-up of Jon literally inserting his finger -- Thank God for small favors. Jon's back blocked the full view of what he was doing. However, we could hear all of what was going on there; Jon was still miked.

However, both Jon and Kate discussed this method of "assisting" their son with "removing his problem." I believe the discussion took place during one of their loveseat narratives.

Now, I have no problem with parents who recognize that a child has a problem and, over time, have come to understand how best to resolve that problem -- in their own parental estimation and opinion. I believe in parental autonomy, though I reserve the right to question and to disagree with the forms and methods that parental autonomy sometimes take.

Where my objection comes into play is when something as intimate and private as a child's painful bowel movement -- and the subsequent manual assistance needed to alleviate the constipation -- become fodder for "entertainment" on a reality show. I do object to Jon and Kate allowing the entire scene and their explanations of it to be filmed for a TV audience. Their son was just a little boy, and completely beholden to his parents, as well as to ALL the many adults present that day. Does he not deserve to be treated with dignity just because he's a child? That idea goes against my theory of parental love and protection.

So you can "question" my "credibility" as much as you like. I know what I saw and heard and remember from the furniture-episode, and I'm sure many others on this blog remember it too. See, that's the problem with memorializing your life and its daily events for a TV show. Somebody will always remember.
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p.s. The YouTube clip has 2,860 views so far. So again I ask: Where is the child's right to privacy? Where was the parents' outrage over the child's loss of privacy?

Crock said...

long time reader - first time poster :)

I just checked the Zondervan site and guess who's no longer on the front page...they are listening.

Anonymous said...

Let's face it. I don't watch the show for the kids anymore, and I doubt a lot of other people do either. I just watch it to see what Kate will do this week, how Jon and her ignore each other, and how there is absolutely no love in that household what so ever. I'm a rubbernecker, watching the train wreck!

My5blessings said...

HannaBelleLechter has left a new comment on the post "Some People Will Believe Anything":

coyote-38609 said...

QUOTE: "... and Jon inserting his finger in order to get one of his sons to have a bowel movement..." [5/09/2009 4:41 PM]Might want to stick to the facts as to what was actually on film. Your credibility is less apt to be questioned [5/11/09 5:11 PM] ~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Is that right?

I wrote a reply to post here, then thought to check on YouTube for the scene to see if I remembered it correctly. Sure enough, the incident is there for all the worldwide net to see for themselves.

I suggest you look at the scene for yourself. Here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lUh8x9P6eY
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OMG, I am in disbelief watching this.

It was all I could do not to cry for this poor little baby. what type of Monster could allow their child to remain in such pain?

Allow their child to writhe in agony all the while choosing beds? This was the priority? Not their son? Are you kidding? That was more important than her child crying in pain, "my hiney hurts"

It makes me so sick. I simply cannot wrap my brain around what was allowed to happen to this little one.

Now, throw in the fact this was all filmed and it's downright inhumane. This is what they would like all to believe was "documenting their children's lives?" yeah right.

We wouldn't allow this to happen to an animal, we all would cry foul-- picket signs being made, phone calls pouring out but for this little boy? Nothing. I never saw that episode....... God, it's so vile.

Whether Jon stuck his finger inside him or not, it sure sounds like he did-- It's a moot point.

Their son was in pain and the people once again there to protect him did NOTHING except continue on their quest for choosing beds.

Taking him to the parking lot with an audience to observe his agony?
Imagine that was you! Imagine doing that to your own child. Could you do this? ( general question) Would you? ( again general question)

It disgusts me on more levels than I can say.

So whether the OP is correct in whether he inserted his finger or not, the entire ordeal for this baby was disgusting and inhumane. Prisoners are treated with more dignity.

HannaBelleLechter said...

Hi My5blessingsI'll address my observations one more time concerning the constipation episode, just to give my perspective.

In their loveseat narrative, Jon talks about getting a bag to wrap around his hand, then Kate interrupts to call it a pseudo-glove.

In all the episodes I've seen and all the times we've observed the tups' diapers being changed, not once have I seen either parent wear gloves of any type during the changing of diapers.

We've seen children changed on changing tables, in their cribs, on sofas, and on the floor. Think back to the episode, for example, where Kate changes a poopy diaper while the child lies on the floor, then watch Kate chuck the diaper at Jen, the producer. No gloves at any time.

So the fact that Jon specifically tells the audience that he created a makeshift glove in order to help his son "resolve his problem" tells me that a specific method of manual assistance was used by Jon. Kate's reference to a pseudo-glove conjures up the actions of a proctologist.

I can't even believe the issue is being debated by poster coyote. It's right there on YouTube (now at 2,946 views!).

Jon and Kate worried over their own privacy? Yeah, because the spotlight is cramping their new lifestyles. As far as the spotlight on the kids, though, they couldn't care less about what they exposed the children to in terms of loss of dignity. JMHO.

girl2 said...

I posted this on another forum, but I thought it was appropriate for this blog and this topic. With all due respect to Veggie Tales (and brownie points for those of you who know the tune):


We are the Gosselins who don't do anything,
We just stay home and LIE around
If you ask us to do anything
We WON'T tell you
We don't do anything!

My5blessings said...

girl2 wrote:
I posted this on another forum, but I thought it was appropriate for this blog and this topic. With all due respect to Veggie Tales (and brownie points for those of you who know the tune):


We are the Gosselins who don't do anything,
We just stay home and LIE around
If you ask us to do anything
We WON'T tell you
We don't do anything!
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ROFLMBO! Ahhhhhh yeppers. Sure do know the tune. Points for me! Have a million and one of the videos that being one of them. We are the Pirates who don't do anything... LOLOL
That is so funny and just gave me a great chuckle from a very long, hard day.
I know it's a very serious situation, but that was so cute:)

My5blessings said...

HannaBelleLechter wrote:

Hi My5blessingsI'll address my observations one more time concerning the constipation episode, just to give my perspective.

In their loveseat narrative, Jon talks about getting a bag to wrap around his hand, then Kate interrupts to call it a pseudo-glove.

In all the episodes I've seen and all the times we've observed the tups' diapers being changed, not once have I seen either parent wear gloves of any type during the changing of diapers.

We've seen children changed on changing tables, in their cribs, on sofas, and on the floor. Think back to the episode, for example, where Kate changes a poopy diaper while the child lies on the floor, then watch Kate chuck the diaper at Jen, the producer. No gloves at any time.

So the fact that Jon specifically tells the audience that he created a makeshift glove in order to help his son "resolve his problem" tells me that a specific method of manual assistance was used by Jon. Kate's reference to a pseudo-glove conjures up the actions of a proctologist.

I can't even believe the issue is being debated by poster coyote. It's right there on YouTube (now at 2,946 views!).

Jon and Kate worried over their own privacy? Yeah, because the spotlight is cramping their new lifestyles. As far as the spotlight on the kids, though, they couldn't care less about what they exposed the children to in terms of loss of dignity. JMHO.
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You are sort of preaching to the quior (sp) here:) I agree with you.

All I said was I couldn't tell if he did insert his finger in his son's bottom. I do "think" he did as well. I certainly haven't the experience some of you have with the episodes and hadn't seen that one, did hear about it. That was a first for me.

I completely and utterly agree. Their concern for their children has never been a priority. The entire video I saw disgusted me but then so many of their shows disgusted me. Not just because of their loss of privacy.

That little boy lost more than his privacy that day.
He lost trust.

I cannot imagine my child/children crying in agony and ignoring my child's pain so I could pick out a bed.

The entire thing disgusts me like I said in my previous post. It's almost un believable. To be very honest, if I were listening to this story and didn't see it with my own eyes, I might not believe it. It goes against all my parental instincts. Hard to imagine.

tajispeak said...

I truly think Jon and Kate just need to get on with it... an affair? cheating? one or both, who cares? Divorce? well, then go for it! But truly, the main thing is about the eight kids they have sired. DISCONTINUE the show NOW!!!! Before it's way too late!!! You all have enough money. $60,000 per episode, 30 to 40 episodes per year.. that's like $2,000,000 per year! Plus your personal appearances at $25,000 a crack, plus Kate's book deal. Oh please! You should have at least $15,000,000 in the bank, and if you don't, you're irresponsible. So get your act together. Oh please! Before it's too late for the children. Please cancel this expoit of a T.V. show!!!

You only live one life. Don't mess it up!

jcurran23 said...

Fellow Pennsylvanian said...

Of all the press releases Jon and
They better get their act together before those girls end up on a pole in Vegas - or worse yet - Scranton.

5/12/2009 11:55 AM

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Haha I laughed so hard, there's worse than Scranton, they could come down to Wilkes-Barre.

Sara said...

That's so major stupidity...I wish someone would tell me that face to face !!!

Elle said...

Here is the Kon
Here is the steeple
Open the door
and see all the sheeple.

Teacher said...

Elle,

I hadn't bother do go to this particular site in light of what is happening presently with K/J but when I did I give you a A+ for your very funny poem!

disgusted said...

The episode where Kate could not be distracted from bed shopping while her baby boy was in serious pain makes me so livid.

I DETEST her for ignoring that poor baby. Out of all of the different ways she has proven herself to be cold and calculating...this particular display makes me ill. The baby wanted comfort from his mommy. Too bad his mommy is incapable of empathy and compassion even when her own children are in crisis.

She is a repulsive human being.

readerlady said...

Zondervan may have taken down their page on the publisher's website, but they still are ignoring emails. I emailed them about 2 weeks ago expressing concern that a self-proclaimed Evangelical Christian publishing company promoted a show that demonstrates spousal abuse (Kate's treatment of Jon is nothing short of verbal, if not physical, abuse) and the exploitation of children, followed it up with another email last week, and still have received no answer.

This may not be the proper thread to post this on, but - my closest friend and her husband have raised a family of 7 children in a 4 bedroom, 1 and 1 1/2 bath home (and they have 5 daughters, LOL) on a teacher and social worker's salaries. Six of the 7 have graduated from college and number 7 is a college sophomore. And they've done this without pimping out their family or asking for handouts. The only "help" they've ever had was childcare when the kids were little. If they could do it, Kon could, if they wanted to. Of course, that would mean actually having to work.

Scoops said...

I have watched the show from the begining and saw this eventual train wreck from a mile away. It has disturbed me for a long time, and I guess I am just as guilty as anyone for sitting back and watching it.

I do need to point out one thing about Kate's verbal, emotional and physical abuse of Jon. It seems people have turned a blind eye and have not really taken it seriously. Until now?!

It makes me wonder. If the roles were reversed and it was Jon that was the abusive one, there would have been a major out-cry from the public long ago.

What I mean to say is that abuse, whether it is doled out from a man or a woman should always be taken very seriously. I think many men suffer behinds the scenes because of the stigma attached. Perhaps the only good that will come out of this fiasco is that it will bring this issue to the forefront.