The Mystery Tour

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For some reason, Zondervan "unpublished" the information it had previously published regarding Kate's book tour for Eight Little Faces -- now all you will get is this error message instead of the previous listing of dates and places.

It must suck to be Kate; on the one hand you want to promote your "book", on the other hand you don't really want people who see you for what you are showing up and calling you on it or spreading the word to the assembled sheeple... what a dilemma.

Our little "thank God we do the show, it allows me to be home with the kids" Mom had a very hectic road schedule during April, and May isn't shaping up much better:

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Serena said...

For some reason, Zondervan "unpublished" the information it had previously published regarding Kate's book tour for Eight Little Faces -- now all you will get is this error message instead of the previous listing of dates and places.

It must suck to be Kate; on the one hand you want to promote your "book", on the other hand you don't really want people who see you for what you are showing up and calling you on it or spreading the word to the assembled sheeple... what a dilemma.

Our little "thank God we do the show, it allows me to be home with the kids" Mom had a very hectic road schedule during April, and May isn't shaping up much better:

West Coast Tour DatesTuesday, 4/14
Barnes + Noble #2303, Glendale, CA
1:00 - 3:00 pm
210 Americana Way Glendale, CA 91210

Tuesday, 4/14
Sam's Club #6240
Glendora, CA
7:00 - 9:00 pm
1301 S. Lone Hill Ave. Glendora, CA 91740

Wednesday, 4/15
First Christian Church, Huntington Beach, CA Interview & Book Signing
6:30 PM
1207 Main Street
Huntington Beach, CA 92648

Thursday, 4/16
Borders #212
Fresno, CA
7:00 - 9:00 pm
7722 N. Blackstone Ave. Fresno, CA 93720

Friday, 4/17
Borders #351
Pleasant Hill, CA
7:00 - 9:00 pm
120 Crescent Drive Pleasant Hill, CA 94523

Saturday, 4/18
Sam's Club #4835
Renton, WA
1:00 - 3:00 pm
901 South Grady Way Renton, WA 98055

Saturday, 4/18
Barnes + Noble #1915
Bellevue, WA
7:00 - 9:00 pm
626 106th Ave NE Bellevue, WA 98004
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- East Coast Tour DatesFriday, 4/24
Southern Women's Show
Barnes + Noble #2171 on-site @ show
2:00 pm
Raleigh, NC

Saturday, 4/25
Books-A-Million
McDonough, GA
1:00 - 3:00 pm
Henry Town Center 1774 Jonesboro Rd.
McDonough, GA 30253

Saturday, 4/25
LifeWay Christian Store Buford, GA
7:00 - 9:00 pm
Mall of Georgia Crossing
3125 Woodland Crossing Blvd, Suite 2000; Buford, GA 30519

Sunday, 4/26
Family Christian Stores #428 Lakeland, FL
5:00 - 7:00 pm
3700 US Highway 98 N Lakeland, FL 33809-3809

Monday, 4/27
Sam's Club #4772
Sarasota, FL
1:00 - 3:00 pm
300 N. Cattleman Rd. Sarasota, FL 34232

Monday, 4/27
Books-A-Million
Sarasota, FL
7:00 - 9:00 pm
Gulf Gate Mall 6591
S. Tamiami Trail
Sarasota, FL 34231

Tuesday, 4/28
Borders #682,
Newport News, VA
7:00 - 9:00 pm
12300 Jefferson Ave, Suite 100, Newport News, VA 23602

Wednesday, 4/29 TENTATIVE - The 700 Club Virginia Beach, VA
Wednesday, 4/29 TENTATIVE – The Washington Post Interview
for Web Site Washington, DC Saturday, 5/2
Pennsylvania Women's Conference – Bookseller TBD
12:00 - 2:00 pm
Harrisburg, PA

Monday, 5/4
Barnes + Noble #2932
Clifton, NJ
7:30 - 9:30 pm
395 Route 3 East
Clifton, NJ 07014

Tuesday, 5/5
Barnes + Noble #2255
New York, NY
12:30 - 2:30 pm
97 Warren St.(at Greenwich St.)
New York, NY 10007

Thursday 5/7
The Today Show – NYC

Wednesday, 5/13
Frauenthal Center of Performing Arts –
Hages Bookstore
7:30 PM
425 W. Western Ave. Muskegon, MI

Thursday 5/14
Metro Parents Women's Expo
Bookseller TBD
Detroit, MI

karmaknocking said...

I live within 5 miles of the store in mcdonough, ga. I had no idea take was coming and on the day and about the same time that she had started I went to Target, just 5 or 6 stores down from books a million, and there was no indication that anything special was going on. I found out later from a friend that works in the store that kate was on time, not rude but not friendly either and after 30 minutes the line was gone and she left. People came in after she left and got angry when they found out she had left and they demanded a return on their book. Overall, she didnt make any friends in this part of the country.

beachluvin said...

I noticed that April 18 (the day Jon was photographed leaving Legends) was the last leg of her west coast tour. I wonder if Jon needed to get in one last "outing" before wifey came home for a few days.

Amy said...

Isn't it about time she be done with the book tour?

One question: where did "sheeple" come from? I'm new to the blog.

Treece said...

Yeah I don't think I would pay for a picture book which is what it seems to be from reviews. Obviously her first book did much better.

Tangerine Tanya said...

I am freakin exhausted just reading the schedule. This woman is totally unbelievable! She is anything but a SAHM!

Money/Fame
or
Husband/Children

Ummmmm

I'm just sayin said...

Kate is singing "It's a beautiul life" and Jon and the kids are singing " Oh what a terrible strife"

konspiracytheory said...

Serena, I love that you and the other mods take the time to research and post Kate's 'SAHM' schedule - one more bit of ammo against those two frauds - thank you!

KiSSy said...

As far as I know, Zondervan is a very reputable Christian publisher. I wouldn't doubt that they didn't waste time removing this info from their site in light of the recent allegations. I imagine they are carefully weighing where they will go with Kate's contract from here, they surely don't want to harm their own reputation.

This is not the first time a publisher/music dist company has pulled back on a well known name. Amy Grant's divorce, Sandi Patty's affair and Ray Boltz' coming out of the closet all caused their parent companies to regroup or pull the plug.

Zondervan would be smart to drop this pair like a hot potato before they get drug through the mud too.

2badsosad said...

Shouldnt a little $10 book sell itself? Is it really worth the all important time spent away from her eight small children to promote a $10 scrap book?? The tups are attending their first year in pre school and the twins should be wrapping up their school year. Does Kate have any desire or interest to participate in the day to day EXPERIENCES and activities of her children? It seems to me the only time Kate is home and devoting any 'quality' time with her children is when TLC is filming an episode of their reality show. I personally do not understand the necessity for Kate to spend days and weeks on end promoting a $10 book. The book SHOULD sell itself

JoseM said...

http://www.amazon.com/Eight-Little-Faces-Kate-Gosselin/product-reviews/0310318467/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

haha, take a look at some of the reviews for the book. i'm glad to see that not everyone is swallowing everything they put out there w/o giving it some thought first. awesome!!

Michele said...

I think the bottom line is that if it was a 1 or 5 star, it really doesn't matter cause I think they are laughing all the way to their bank, cause it's on the NY times best seller list once again.

grandee4 said...

When Kate goes on these tours, what does she do with the rest of her time that day? I know sometimes she does 2 a day. Still,she has lots of free time on her hands.

MM2005 said...

Eight Little Faces is no longer on the May 3rd New York Times Best seller list -- hardover non-fiction advice.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/10/books/bestseller/besthardadvice.html?_r=1

Ann said...

2badsosad, I agree with you about time with the kids. My youngest is almost the same age as the tups. I am feeling sad that next year she will be in school full days and I am making the most of our last mornings we spend together before the summer. I know there are alot of parents who can't wait for their kids to get to school so they have their lives back, but I guess I am the opposite, I feel like you only get this fun age once with your kids and I'm not in a rush to get it over with.

I feel sad Kate is missing such a fun age with her kids. Sure some days I would love to go to the spa, or have a day off, but I can't imagine weeks at a time away. I would worry too much. With Kate's OCD issues she must really trust whatever hired help they have or maybe she has found some medication to help her not worry while she is gone? I just can't imagine being the nanny while Kate is gone. How many nanny cams do you think Kate has?

Treece said...

I read a couple reviews on Multiple Bles8ings and someone said it's pretty much the same stuff you can see on TV with bible verses. How much more can she stress her christianity all while canceling events at churches. Why does she keep repeating herself? She MUST be getting sick of it herself right?
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I really would like to see what the kids are doing because with this schedule, she could not possibly be making stops back at home. That's the whole month.. Honestly...Signing books is not more important than being with your kids. Did the Duggars do that with their book? (And they have many more kids. Granted they are not all toddlers, but still)

ICSillyPeople said...

Eight "Exploited" Faces is no longer on ANY of the NY Times best sellers lists. I checked ALL the possible lists this time including FICTION!

pinkdiamond611 said...

Monday in Clifton, NJ, a suburb of NYC. Tuesday, the location in NYC is interesting. Not a very "sheeple friendly" location. Might be interesting. . . Thursday, the Today show. Perhaps Kathie Lee, will tell her she knows what she is going through, her hubby cheated on her too. LOL I guess Kate and Mr. Gray will have the day off on Wednesday. Nothing scheduled. You don't think she will drive all the way back to PA to spend the night with her children, do you? Naaaah.

ICSillyPeople said...

karmaknocking said...
I live within 5 miles of the store in mcdonough, ga. ... found out later ... after 30 minutes the line was gone and she left. People came in after she left ... they demanded a return on their book.
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OUCH ----- NEGATIVE SALES!

Janise said...

When Kate was in California the whole family went as it was spring break. When Kate is in New York or in New Jersey it is only a day trip so she is home at night. The same for Pennsylvania trips. The schedule isn't that bad. Book tours are set up by the publishing company and are not paid appearances. They are by nature quite rough. In these tough times they are doing what they have to to become financially set.

rachel said...

Could it be that the reason there are so many negative reviews of Eight Little Faces, as compared with Multiple Blessings (which reviewers seemed to enjoy) is because Kate authored ELF all by her self while MB was mostly authored by Beth? Could it be that Kate is NOT a talented writer and that Beth was the brains behind the first book?

KiSSy said...

I'm not justifying anyone here, but there is a lot of travel between locations. Figure in meals, checking in and out of hotels, exercise, travel to and from the event, business calls/emails and hopefully staying in touch at home and that makes for a busy day.

sunshinelover said...

I think the bottom line is that if it was a 1 or 5 star, it really doesn't matter cause I think they are laughing all the way to their bank, cause it's on the NY times best seller list once again.

Checking the NY Time Best Seller website, I did not see 'Eight Little Faces' ranking anywhere.

Lisa K said...

Does she even know these kids anymore? IMO, she is living how SHE wants to live and the heck with the kids and what THEY want. She probably goes home long enough to film the show, and bark a few orders to everyone, and its back to HER life.

Jennifer D said...

that is an interesting question about how Kate spends her time. Seriously, what is she doing the rest of the day while she is away from her kids?

Lee said...

I was having similar thoughts as Beachluvin; Kate had been gone the whole week and was coming home the next day. When my husband is away, which he does several times a year for several weeks in a row, I am always in a flurry of last minute cleaning, planning and prepping for his first few days home (dinner plans, ready to tackle his laundry, etc.) the day before he returns. Personally, I have never considered those eves before his return as time I am available to socialize; I am always quite busy in those last hours. Besides, I am generally so amped up about our reunion that I couldn't imagine being good company for any of my friends... I guess what I'm trying to say is, if their marriage is in good shape, and Jon was anticipating Kate's homecoming the next day, the last thing from his mind would be late night drinking and socializing. But then, he doesn't exactly have to do food shopping, laundry or cleaning, because someone else is already paid to.

nomorekonartists said...

Janise said...

When Kate was in California the whole family went as it was spring break. When Kate is in New York or in New Jersey it is only a day trip so she is home at night. The same for Pennsylvania trips. The schedule isn't that bad. Book tours are set up by the publishing company and are not paid appearances. They are by nature quite rough. In these tough times they are doing what they have to to become financially set.

5/03/2009 12:16 PM
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They are doing what they have to become financially set? Are you kidding me? So let me get this right. Since when did exploiting ones children in order to become financially set become an okay thing to do? Since when did it become okay to sell pictures of your children to the public in which case God knows who is getting these pictures-just to make an extra buck? Lastly, is it the kids that will be financially set for a life time since they are being sold out underneath the table, or will it be ever so hard working Kon?
Also, wanted to comment on the the book signings in New York and Pennsylvania along with the Spring Break trips. Is there factual evidence that you have without a reasonable doubt that Kate goes home after her signings in New York? Also, you are right. Those book signings during Spring Break weren't so bad for her kids. After all they were able to travel across the country like normal children with Mommy Dearest and waste their time at appearances and paraded around like a circus act, right? Besides they are just little kids doing what they can to become financially set. One would assume this is every child's dream spring break. Please. I usually value everyone's opinion, but sometimes wonder what planet some people are living on.

Abby said...

Janise said...

Book tours are set up by the publishing company and are not paid appearances.

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Well, that would explain Kate's crappy attitude at the signings... she's not getting PAID to be there. That's why she never smiles, won't talk to fans, and only stays 30 minutes.

But what explains her same poor attitude at the appearances where she DOES get paid? Kate's always got a crappy attitude. 8 healthy, adorable children? Ugh. They're exhausting. 1.3 mil mansion? Ugh. It's exhausting packing and moving. Free vacations? Ugh. They're exhausting and more packing. Free clothes, spas, haircuts, catered meals, appliances, furniture...it's all so exhausting....

"It's a beautiful life"...yeah, tell that to Kate.

Addison said...

Glad to see all the 1 star ratings for 8 Little Faces! I read through it at Target the other day. It was pretty much the most nothing thing I have ever seen. Lol.

beachluvin said...

I have been in the Health and Fitness field for over 20 years. I hate when celebrities come out with a fitness video or book without the proper training, certifications and experience to do so. I have a feeling this will be the next step on the Gosselin Greed train. I swear if Kate comes out with a fitness book or cd, I am going to scream! It's bad enough she is coming out with a cookbook which the sheepie will no doubt be foolish enough to buy but there are safety issues to be considered!

Even the Girls Next Door came out with a fitness CD....so ridiculous that people think that if they do the workout, they will end up with silicone filled breasts and a flat tummy! The closest thing to flat tummies Kate could push would be a book called "How to Get a Tummy Tuck For Free" or "Eight Ways to a Flat Tummy".

HannaBelleLechter said...

Serena, According to this website, you can add the following two "performances" to the Kate schedule for May 14th:

https://www.metroparent.com/index.php?action=metro_event&id=1762Here's the website for Faith Lutheran Church, which is a Tamil congregation:

http://www.faithtroy.org/tamil/Two Special Events with Kate GosselinJoin us as we host America’s favorite TV mom, Kate Gosselin. Gosselin the star of the #1 rated cable show and author of Multiple Blessings, shares her story of the challenges that come with raising 8 year old twins and a set of sextuplets. The Gosselins' life is a whirlwind, with the book and show reflecting the fast-paced, no nonsense approach they take to raising their twins and their miracle sextuplets. Kate’s second book, Eight Little Faces, comes out in early April 2009.

Kate will be participating in two separate events on May 14th.

Tickets purchased for the tea do not allow entry into the evening performance. Tickets purchased for the evening performance do not allow entry into “Tea with Kate Gosselin.”

“Tea with Kate Gosselin” is being held at the Henry Ford West Bloomfield Hospital at 3:00PM on May 14th. Attend an intimate tea with Kate and receive a signed copy of your choice of either Multiple Blessings or Eight Little Faces. Guests will have the opportunity to sign up for a tour of Henry Ford’s state of the art, Labor and Delivery wing, at a later date. Only 80 seats available (Added by me: @$150 each)“Moms’ Night Out with Kate Gosselin” is being held at Faith Lutheran Church of Troy at 7:30PM on May 14th. She’ll share her “Six Lessons Learned” and “Tips For a Stress Free Home.” If she can do it so can you! Two ticket choices available.

* Tickets costing $38.00 include gold seating-general admission and an opportunity to attend an after performance book signing with Kate (book NOT included, but available for purchase). Only 500 seats available.

* Tickets priced at $27.00 are silver seating-general admission.

Tickets will be mailed out the week of May 4th!

BUY TICKETSTwo Special Events with Kate Gosselin

Step 1 - Please select your desired ticket(s) from the list below:

Tea with Kate
$150.00/ticket | Amount:
Tea with Kate
Book of choice:
Book included.

- OR -

Mom's Night Out with Kate Gosselin

General Admission (silver seating)
$27.00/ticket | Amount:

General Admission (gold seating) $38.00/ticket | Amount:

Includes a book signing with Kate. Book not included, but available for purchase.

WorkerBee said...

Ann said...
I know there are alot of parents who can't wait for their kids to get to school so they have their lives back, but I guess I am the opposite

Ann, I'm that way too. When my kids were younger and I was a SAHM, I always dreaded the end of summer. :-(

WorkerBee said...

11 years ago when my daughter was born I made a Creative Memories photo album of my pregnancy, her birth and probably her first 6 months...each page I had a Bible verse added.

I sure wish I'd copyrighted it, so Kate couldn't have stolen my idea! ;-D lol And I say that tongue in cheek b/c y'all know Kate always thinks her ideas are original! (and no I know what I did wasn't original)

overwithKON said...

**Kate's 'SAHM' schedule**

Quote of the week! Ha ha! And I did check out the reviews of the book! Priceless! I hope ZOndervan drops her like the hot spud that she is not!

karmaknocking said...

when will the "8 little pesos" tour hit Mexico?

HannaBellLechter said...

Jennifer D said..."that is an interesting question about how Kate spends her time. Seriously, what is she doing the rest of the day while she is away from her kids?"~~~~~I'm just surmising but I think Kate is living her dream life as an attractive, single girl with no children when she has all the downtime on the road. She probably goes shopping, sightseeing, eating out (maybe with Mr Gray as an amiable companion), spa treatments, hair salons, pro makeup, stuff like that.

Meanwhile, Jon, who is immature and more like an adolescent rebellious teen than a true, grounded father of 8, would resent Kate's fun adventures. So, he'd rationalize his stepping out whenever he could: If Kate can have fun without all these brats, then why can't I, Jon probably asks himself.

Difference, of course, is while we can conjecture about the Mr Gray connection, there's no proof whatsoever of any improprieties between Kate and the bodyguard. Jon, OTOH, is seen entering, then leaving, a bar with a 22 year old girl whom he calls Babe and allows to drive his brandy new 2-seater sportscar.

In defending Jon, the bouncer of the bar reveals that Jon comes there often, often enough for the bouncer to feel free to share Jon's thoughts with the public -- he's stressed out, needs to chill, is on lockdown at the house being a SAHD. Oh, he loves his kids, but no mention of the wife.

So, whatever each of them is doing, it's Jon's escapades that look worse to the public at large. The casual observer sees Kate breaking her butt on the road to support her family, while her husband parties. It IS the way it looks on the surface.

My opinion, FWIW: Neither J nor K wants to parent any more. If there's a divorce (OMG! the financial aspects would be unbelievable; the private revelations mindblowing), Jon would never fight for full custody. Alternating holidays, weekends, an annual ski trip for Cara -- that's it. AND if Jon were to remarry, he'd start a new family, maybe one or two kids, tops (not multiples; singles). He'd lavish attention and love on the newest children, giving enough fodder to all his Kate-born kids to keep them on the analyst's couch for the rest of their adult lives.

Final thought: I surely hope any 22 year old girl who thinks she may permanently want to enter Jon's life as the newest Gosselin has parents who will set her straight! My god. Dealing with Kate will be a nightmare. A man with 8 kids is a ridiculous prospect for a young woman; I don't care how cute the children seem. Jon is certainly not all that either. I personally find him to be a pudgy, uninteresting dolt.

ATTN all single, young women: Stay away from that moron father of 8! I recommend a prison pen pal! One serving 25 years to life. He's a much better prospect for you than Jon Gosselin, his ex Kate and his EIGHT children.;))))

Wendy Bird said...

KiSSy said...
I'm not justifying anyone here, but there is a lot of travel between locations. Figure in meals, checking in and out of hotels, exercise, travel to and from the event, business calls/emails and hopefully staying in touch at home and that makes for a busy day.
It has been observed by many who post on this blog that Kate doesn't appear to have any idea what goes on at home while she is gone. When Jon discusses something that happened while she was away during the couch interviews, she always acts surprised at what he says. Doesn't she call home and ask about the day? Apparently not, so you can scratch that off the list of things that Kate does when she is traveling.

HannaBellLechter said...

Oh btw, I believe that when Kate is on the road, enjoying her downtime at the spa and shopping the stores, she's probably humming the theme to the Mary Tyler Moore show in her little head. The lyrics fit Mrs G to a tee.:p

"Love is All Around"
by Paul Williams

Who can turn the world on with her smile?
Who can take a nothing day, and suddenly make it all seem worthwhile?
Well it's you girl, and you should know it
With each glance and every little movement you show it

Love is all around, no need to waste it
You can have a town, why don't you take it
You're gonna make it after all
You're gonna make it after all

How will you make it on your own?
This world is awfully big, girl this time you're all alone
But it's time you started living
It's time you let someone else do some giving
Love is all around, no need to waste it
You can have a town, why don't you take it
You're gonna make it after all
You're gonna make it after all

My5blessings said...

The closest thing to flat tummies Kate could push would be a book called "How to Get a Tummy Tuck For Free" or "Eight Ways to a Flat Tummy".
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beachluving, I almost spit on my screen!
Too darn true!!!
When I read J. say how K looks great for having 8 children, all I could think was ah yeah we all would if we had a plastic surgeon at our disposal, hair stylist, make-up artist..... Sheesh.
She sure didn't "look that great" before all that came along!

And yes, if she comes out with a video, I'll gag as well.

Pink said...

I doubt Kate will be showing-up at any upcoming speaking engagements or appearances with her kids again. I know this is an older video clip (1/09), but a few things stood out to me.

1. She severely grabbed Alexis' shoulder, and the tup notably flinched with pain, continuing to pull at her arm for a period of time afterward, trying to make the sting go away.

2. Mady laughed at this, as if it was a happy, magical moment for her to watch her mom inflict pain on Alexis.

3. When the host asked the kids if Kate was a great mom, you can clearly hear Kate nervously whispering to them to "say yes"!!! They all hesitated to do so (the twins did say she was), but then Mady quickly added "we like dad better though".

4. Kate begin that interview in such a cold way, making it difficult for the host. Of course, that is her personality showing thru. Additionally. she was unable once again, to control her kids in a calm manner. I bet the scene afterwards was not a pleasant one.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4764337n

Tom in the Next Town Over said...

I live in the next town over from, and have driven by the Konpound on numerous occasions (yes, I confess, I'm a bit of a looky-loo). I have NEVER seen any of the kids outside playing or anything like that - It seems like the place (to echo the bouncer's words) is on lockdown.

In looking at the tour dates, I notice that we go from VA, to a quick outing in Harrisburg PA, straight to NJ. No stops in SE or Central PA. Odd, since we've got a Borders, Barnes & Noble, etc. RIGHT HERE IN HER HOMETOWN! When other "local authors" (and I use that term loosely here) have works published, they can usually be found at signings/appearances in the area. Why not our Kate? Could it be that she couldn't bear the thought of no one showing up, a la the record signing scene in "Spinal Tap" when no one showed up?

One final thing - just to make clear. While I have no idea whether Jon is being unfaithful or not, for the record, the "Legends Lounge" in the recent story is a good 10 miles away from the Konpound, with both backcountry roads and highway driving needed to get there. If he's out late and drinking/driving, that's not cool at all, REGARDLESS of whatever else he may or may not be up to. Man-child needs to grow up, or deal with the consequences while we all watch (or don't watch)them self-implode.

TJD said...

I just want to say I'm new to the site and I can't tell you how happy (and relieved) I am to find it.

Just wanted to say that Kate DOES get paid for her appearances. I recently sent a scathing letter to Metro Parent who is "sponsoring" her appearances in the Detroit area.

The appearances would be nauseating enough as it is, but the fact she's charging such an outrageous amount in an area that's been so devastated by the recent economic troubles is completely thoughtless and insensitive.

MM2005 said...

Perhaps the "error message" on the Zondervan site indicates they've dropped Kate's book signing tour.

Clearly sales are disappointing (as evidenced by the book dropping off the New York Times best seller list this week.) And, undoubtedly they've been hearing a number of complaints about her unprofessional behavior on the tour, the lack of content in the book, an increase in TV talking heads claiming the children are being exploited, and the negative drunken husband publicity. Yup, at this point, the nice people at Zondervan are probably a bit disenchanted with their association with these two parasites.

No, Kate isn't paid to do the signings, but it is in her best interest to support her book and keep the public, the retailers and the publisher happy. It doesn't appear she is making the slightest attempt to please anyone. If this is her job, she should be fired.

Her publisher may intend to publish a cookbook of Kate's later this year, but book contracts usually permit plenty of room to escape if they don't like what is submitted. If sales of ELF are disappointing, the pulisher may back-out of the deal for the next book and frankly, save themselves the headache of dealing with KON.

RealMom said...

Janise, Were the kids with her in California? How do you know? I must have missed that. As far as NYC and Penna. being close to home, they are but how do you know she didn't stay overnight? Especially in NYC where there is so much to do and she might have had meetings at night, etc. Just wondering how you know, that's all.

JoseM said...

TJD,

Yes, we do know she gets paid for those speaking engagements. What she does NOT get paid for is her appearance at book signings. Thank you though! :)

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Pink said...

I doubt Kate will be showing-up at any upcoming speaking engagements or appearances with her kids again. I know this is an older video clip (1/09), but a few things stood out to me.

-snip-

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4764337n


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Haha, the nerve of that wench. So basically, if you're always busy and can't spend time w/your kids, use the small few moments you get with them, like the 10 seconds you spend washing their hands and faces, and connect w/them then so that you feel like a good parent. MY GOD!! What a horrible person.

I wish someone would give Mady a mic one day and just let her rant about everything she wants. The stories that girl could tell must be wonderful. I do give her props for being so outspoken though every chance she gets. You can tell it bugged Kate slightly to hear that comment, prob. because it was aired on tv, since i doubt she'd care if shes liked less than Jane. Haha, I can only imagine what threats mady might make if shes threatened to be punished or w/e for talking haha. Go Mady!!! "Mommy's mean!!"

JoseM said...

Last thing, in that video, does Cara whisper to Mady, "you're supposed to lie"? Haha, wow!! I wish the girls were interviewed along with the parents at every interview they do

dolphin said...

MM2005 said...
Perhaps the "error message" on the Zondervan site indicates they've dropped Kate's book signing tour


I wondered the same thing too. If she was intentionally blowing it??

My5blessings said...

Pink wrote:

I doubt Kate will be showing-up at any upcoming speaking engagements or appearances with her kids again. I know this is an older video clip (1/09), but a few things stood out to me.

1. She severely grabbed Alexis' shoulder, and the tup notably flinched with pain, continuing to pull at her arm for a period of time afterward, trying to make the sting go away.

2. Mady laughed at this, as if it was a happy, magical moment for her to watch her mom inflict pain on Alexis.

3. When the host asked the kids if Kate was a great mom, you can clearly hear Kate nervously whispering to them to "say yes"!!! They all hesitated to do so (the twins did say she was), but then Mady quickly added "we like dad better though".

4. Kate begin that interview in such a cold way, making it difficult for the host. Of course, that is her personality showing thru. Additionally. she was unable once again, to control her kids in a calm manner. I bet the scene afterwards was not a pleasant one.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4764337n
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Wow. Thank you Pink for sending the link to that interview.

More shocking than Kate grabing Alexis so hard, was the host praising Kate on how well snatching Alexis little arm worked and how she would have to "remember that!!!" Are you kidding me?

Seeing things like this drive home why I do not watch this show any longer or others like it.

Although, I admit Kate is the worst parent I've ever seen in my life. I find it unbelievable anyone can find good in her.

For Mady and probably a good majority of her childrend, they will most likely continue the cycle of abuse.

Can you come close to imagining what their lives are like? To be at her mercy, or lack of mercy I should say. They must live in constant fear of her. Jon's not much better. On that clip, him dragging one of his boys to the table.
It seems like their children are always being snatched up, drug somewhere or sitting in a corner.
I see absolutely no love whatsoever showered on those children.
It's obscene.
All I can think is, I'm so glad people are slowly understanding what a vicious *couple* these two are.
I know it won't happen, but I really wish a relative with kindness could take all the children from both of them.

stunned said...

Pink, Thank you for the cbsnews clip. I hadn't caught it before.

That was quite a yank Kate gave Alexis...I'm a bit surprised HRH wasn't a bit more aware of herself in front of the (live?) camera. Maybe she just thought she was at home doing "my show is my life and my life is the show."

Mady's delayed laugh was scary, but I WANT to believe she was reaching to comfort her sister when the camera cut away, as she has comforted the tups at times in the past.

Btw, I realized from studying Kate's schedule that she was in my town a week ago. Not well publicized--didn't hear a thing about it, before or after. Hmmmmm.

Justmyopinion said...

SAHM= Stay Away Hateful Mom
or

She Always Has Money

laura weiss said...

SAHM

She's Always Hated Men

MJS said...

I never noticed that before...is that really on that video cliP?? If so, can you put up the link so I can view it again...
THOSE CHILDREN MUST LIVE in CONSTANT FEAR if they have to lie for Mommy...what a way to live!!!



JoseM said...
Last thing, in that video, does Cara whisper to Mady, "you're supposed to lie"? Haha, wow!! I wish the girls were interviewed along with the parents at every interview they do

Robin said...

I have to say this, I am not one to hold back my public disdain for Kate *but*...I don't think her disciplining Alexis is that big a deal. I have seen them act up on many an interview and Kate wasn't in a position to reprimand them.

Alexis didn't expect the touch on her shoulder, but it did get her attention-and she stopped doing what she was doing.

What drives me crazy is when parents look the other way when kids act up...which Kate does sometimes too. She didn't smack her with an open hand,and Alexis didn't scream or cry out... she got her attention and made her listen.

Pink said...

My5Blessings, you're very welcome! I am in complete agreement with your observation about the hosts comment. She supported Kate's actions towards Alexis.....not too bright at all.

" All I can think is, I'm so glad people are slowly understanding what a vicious *couple* these two are." Exactly....this charade of theirs will soon be out in the open, even for their most naive' supporters, like the churches and the Zondervan publishing company.

I also believe the abuse cycle will continue on with some of the children, most especially Mady. During the Going Green episode I noticed that some of the kids were quite forward and rude. Their conversations with Steve were a reflection of Kate's personality. A supportive example of this is Hannah telling Steve he could not have a snack if he didn't take a nap.

Pink said...

Stunned, you're welcome for the clip. :-)

"That was quite a yank Kate gave Alexis...I'm a bit surprised HRH wasn't a bit more aware of herself in front of the (live?) camera."

It really was quite a yank, and I don't think Kate has any control over herself in public when she is in the rage mode. In her mind, control over others and events is paramount. An example of controlling events is her need to have an hour by hour action plan from Steve during the solar panel installation. I thought.....seriously?

My5blessings said...

Robin wrote:

I have to say this, I am not one to hold back my public disdain for Kate *but*...I don't think her disciplining Alexis is that big a deal. I have seen them act up on many an interview and Kate wasn't in a position to reprimand them.

Alexis didn't expect the touch on her shoulder, but it did get her attention-and she stopped doing what she was doing.

What drives me crazy is when parents look the other way when kids act up...which Kate does sometimes too. She didn't smack her with an open hand,and Alexis didn't scream or cry out... she got her attention and made her listen.
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I suppose it depends on ones parenting style or what they feel is acceptable discipline.

For *my* family, it is never ever okay to put your hands on a child to hurt them in the name of discipline.

Teaching does not and should not hurt physcially. She didn't touch Alexis, watch again perhaps. She reached out in anger, snatched her shoulder and literally squooze her shoulder quite hard it appeared to me. She hurt her.

Of course she got the little girl's attention. It hurt.

I wonder why adults feel it's perfectly fine to physically grab a child like this when you would be arrested if you did this to an adult or even someone elses child.

She obviously rules with an iron fist, I mean that literally.

I wonder what Alexis learned?I would say she learned it's not okay for her to push her brother, but it is okay for her Mother to grab and hurt her?

Something is wrong with that picture.

Pink said...

Robin, no Alexis did not stop what she was doing. It continued throughout the interview.

Kate is representing herself as the mother of the year, with all kinds of tips on handling stress, parenting your children, etc. That interview isn't anything to be proud of. She is a phony, and does not live-up to what she is preaching to others.

Treece said...

I honestly have no problem with the way Kate grabbed...who was it Alexis? Spanking is another story. THough I do think at least Jon may give them spankings, who knows? Their discipline techniques may seem harsh but in these days unfortunately you can't kick your kids out of the car and drive around the block and expect them to be okay (like that one mother did). What I don't agree with is I don't think Kate takes the time (much less has the time) to even talk to her kids, so it's more like an Authoritarian: "Do what I say OR ELSE" kind of thing, and that's what I see alot when it comes to Jon & Kate. The only person who I see this with is Michelle Duggar, and at first I was angry with her because her house was so quiet, then I went into Child Development and learned a thing or two. :D And michelle does a great job.
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As for Mady in the interview I thought she said something like: "Because they're annoying, and they lie." But I could be wrong? I didn't hear Cara say anything. ------
No wonder no one shows up to the book signings if they don't advertise it. But she doesn't have any right to leave 30 minutes in. I mean what do you expect if NOT MANY knows about it, ya know? Like she expects herself to be so awesome that people hound her website waiting for her to come into their town?

nanasez said...

I personally do not understand the necessity for Kate to spend days and weeks on end promoting a $10 book. The book SHOULD sell itself
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Great point! Now that you've got me thinking about it, I can't understand how they're possibly making any money with this book tour. There are all of the travel, hotel, and other expenses involved, and at $10 a book for a couple of hundred copies (at most events), the trip has to cost more than is made on the books. Especially when Kate leaves less than half-way through each signing event. When people show up and there's no author to sign, there's no reason for them to buy the book. Wonder how happy her publisher is with her leaving all of these events early and costing them sales while they pay her way around the country.

Treece said...

Robin: "What drives me crazy is when parents look the other way when kids act up...which Kate does sometimes too. She didn't smack her with an open hand,and Alexis didn't scream or cry out... she got her attention and made her listen."

I Know!!!! Especially in the store!!! And the kids are running around, playing and screaming and mom's just shopping away...like I know you hear that child. Some parents just don't want to stop what their doing and be a parent (Or leave the grocery store, god forbid the store disappear when they leave!). I think also some parents are afraid of reprimanding their kids in public because people will point the figure at them. Who knows.

Molly said...

HEEELLLLOOOOOO??!?!?!

Anyone mention the new book: Love Is in the Mix: Making Meals into Memories by Kate Gosselin (Hardcover - November 1, 2009)

Give me a break, seriously. She needs to get a grip. even Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie died down...and those girls had money to fall back on...these two yahoo birds have nothing...

Wondering if there is anything we can do about this Love is in the Mix Nonsense...

justmyopinion said...

Laura Weiss,

Good one!

3angelsmom said...

"Her publisher may intend to publish a cookbook of Kate's later this year, but book contracts usually permit plenty of room to escape if they don't like what is submitted. If sales of ELF are disappointing, the pulisher may back-out of the deal for the next book and frankly, save themselves the headache of dealing with KON."
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It looks like you could pre-order the cookbook from the Zondervan website ($29.99 for a hardcover). The amount of detail on the listing - 140 pages, due out Nov 2009 - makes me wonder if they are actually considering a tour cancellation/separation from her or if the error message is just a computer glitch. I know nothing about the publishing industry, just curious.

Old school said...

Perhaps better served on another post but in regards to Kate grabbing Alexis arm. Let me start off by saying that I am TOTALLY against abuse! But sometimes there is to much diologue when it comes to children. I was at a airport recently and this sweet little 3 year old boy was grabbing tee-shirts off one of the gift stand and tossing them to the floor. His mother told him sweetly "Now we dont touch things that dont belong to us and you might get them dirty and we dont want to get the lady behind the counter mad at us and then we might have to buy these tee-shirts and also they are not your size. I was like GEEZ lady! Had that been my child I would have said. No stop touching those tee shirts now! No explanation would have been neccessary. To much talk if you ask me.

MM2005 said...

3angelsmom said,
It looks like you could pre-order the cookbook from the Zondervan website ($29.99 for a hardcover). The amount of detail on the listing - 140 pages, due out Nov 2009 - makes me wonder if they are actually considering a tour cancellation/separation from her or if the error message is just a computer glitch. I know nothing about the publishing industry, just curious.
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Absolutely, the error message could just be a technical problem, but the pre-order information is standard operating procedure. The publisher knows the size and expected content of the cookbook -- that is outlined in the contract. The book may have been submitted or perhaps the publisher has a partial submission which is what is provided in the pre-order information. Last time I checked Amazon there was no cover shot for the book.

The point I was trying to make is simply that the publisher has many ways to back out of the deal if it looks like the book won't be profitable, and Kate's behavior during this book tour and the quick drop in sales might make the publisher reconsider.

Times are tight for every business, and if it appears KONs fan base is quickly diminishing, and their reputation is sullied, the publisher has options.

ICExploitation said...

Nothing is more important to than being a SAHM.

She And Her Money.

lindahoyt said...

Right, Kate going green, or having a cook book, or parenting book, is silly. She doesn't do any of those things.

Why not a book about caring for sick children? How to keep kids healthy and germ free? The "BRAT" diet...how to deal with bumps and bruises...how to clean the house, and go to the spa with six vomiting children...disinfecting laundry room floors, after your husband cleans up vomit.....you know. At least it would be in her area of expertise.

lindahoyt said...

I am a mother of 4 of my own, grown children. I also ran a daycare, and have raised several children, from many differing backgrounds.

One does not grab or pinch a child to try and get them to behave. A very simple way Kate could have handled that situation, would have been to have Alexis sit on her lap. Move children away from each other, when they are bothering each other.

These kids are ill mannered, because they mimic their mother, plain and simple. They hit, because she hits all the time. "Love taps"....as well as things like this shoulder grab.

If a child need discipline, then give it to them. Spankings are acceptable...but, jerking, slapping, pinching and hair pulling...are humiliating and only teach children to be cruel.

JoseM said...

Although its quite a long shot, you know what would be great if successful? That we contact the publisher of the cook book she is putting out, and reference the korean dinner episode where kate says she doesn't follow recipes and that if you need a recipe you can't cook. We make serious references to what SHE has said, and ask for an explanation into the intentions of the book, whether they're trying to insult everyone who buys it, saying we can't cook, etc.

I mean, its a bit stretched, but one could make a valid argument for the point, right?

jayley said...

Physical aggression towards any child is unacceptable.

nanasez said...

It looks like you could pre-order the cookbook from the Zondervan website ($29.99 for a hardcover).
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Thirty dollars for a cookbook from a woman who says she doesn't use recipes and can't bake (because she can't follow recipes)??? A person can get The Joy of Cooking for that price and have everything they'd need for a lifetime of everything from cooking basics to gourmet dishes! It has tons of basic cooking education in there as well. Worth WAY more than anything Kate could put out there about cooking.

Be featured on our blog... said...

Everyone talks about her schedule, Jon's outings, infidelity, etc. a divorce just seems inevitable. The publishing company should & seem to be, distancing themselves from the G's, due to the impending divorce. I just hope they get the divorce out of the way & move on to the big tell all books, so their circus of a life can be a distant memory & the kids can have some normalcy. Neither parent has NOTHING to worry about financially! There will be no child support, just who gets the kids, hire up some nannies to cover everything & divide the money accordingly.

beachluvin said...

lindahoyt said...5/03/2009 8:58 PM
Why not a book about caring for sick children? How to keep kids healthy and germ free? The "BRAT" diet...how to deal with bumps and bruises...how to clean the house, and go to the spa with six vomiting children...disinfecting laundry room floors, after your husband cleans up vomit.....you know. At least it would be in her area of expertise.
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And she could name the book
JOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!

Here are a few tips from that book.

1. Always keep an extra comforter in the laundry room so you always have one on hand to throw over a sick kid on the floor.

2. How to save on your electric bill and potty train at the same time!

3. Learn how to save on your water bill by flushing only once a day! Even with 8 kids!

Look for Kate Gosselin's spooky new Halloween book coming out....

"Doorknobs, Gum and Mr Bear"

Question said...

lindahoyt,

I so admire your opinions thus far and I do respect them and I love reading your comments. You said that spankings are acceptable but not jerking,yanking etc. I do agree with you. There is some different opinions on how Kate should have handled Alexis during the interview. If you are one of the folks that think that the yanking on the are was unacceptable then would a spanking be in order? Best Regard to you! I do mean that. Again I so enjoy your thoughts.

beachluvin said...

In regards to the way Kate handled Alexis during the interview, I think disciplining a child is a personal choice (as long as it is not crossing the lines of abuse) but whatever that choice is, it should not be played out on television. Alexis was clearly embarrassed and kids remember that sort of thing for the rest of their lives. She looked at the camera afterwards just like Mady does each and every time she is being disciplined. It's a shame that these kids private moments whether its a hug or some sort of punishment has to be seen by millions of people over and over again. It's not natural and something should be done about it.

Tangerine Tanya said...

beachluvin and lindahoyt,

Loved your comments about THE BOOK!

Especially when it was suggested it be called Joooooooon.

Willow #1 said...

Beachluvin's comment reminded me that I wanted to ask you all this a long time ago: Did Kate really save up the potties for Jon to empty when he got home or what was the deal about the potties not getting emptied. I must have missed that one (hard to believe with all of the re-runs), but I think there is something I missed there. Thanks. :)

jayley said...

To anyone out there that thinks its ok to "pop a child in the mouth", or show aggression towards a small child, please consult your pediatrician, and tell them these are your feelings. There are many thoughts on this subject.. please provide one that shows that hitting your children provides positive results. When I've seen parents behave this way in public it makes me wonder what goes on in private. I certainly don't applaud them, I view them as extremely uneducated. If you're so proud of your child rearing efforts GO TELL YOUR CHILDS DOCTOR about it. I'm sure they'd agree with you. sad.

tallblonde said...

Serena - thanks so much for posting that schedule!

I've done some searching on the 'net - trying to find Jon's schedule and think I've found HIS "unpublished" schedule information for May:

Monday, 5/4
Days Inn
Reading Wyomissing
7:30pm - 2:00am
910 Woodland Road
Reading, PA

Tuesday, 5/5
Quality Inn Airport
Reading, PA
12:30pm - 2:30am

Wednesday, 5/6
Sam's Goosehouse
Reading, PA
4:00pm - Closing

Thursday 5/7
Econo Lodge Northeast
Reading, PA
12:30pm - 2:00am

Wednesday, 5/13
Comfort Inn
Reading, PA
12:30pm - 2:00am
2200 Stacy Drive, Reading, PA

Thursday 5/14
Holiday Inn Express
2389 Bernville Road
Reading, PA
12:30pm - 2:00am

;-)

lifeoriley said...

Regarding the appearances today in NJ and tomorrow in NYC--NO WAY is Kate going home between these two events. The book signing is at night and the Today show is in the morning. Rest assured Kate will be staying in a nice NYC hotel room tonight. It is approximately 2 1/2 hours to NYC (with no or light traffic) from her home to Manhattan. She's not going to get home tonight around midnight and then get up at three am to do the show--she's going to stay somewhere closer.
Even if Kate does get home at night--aren't the kids in bed early? And, I'm sure she's "exhausted" and isn't going to spend a heck of a lot of time with the kids.

Moo said...

ICExploitation said...
Nothing is more important to than being a SAHM.

She And Her Money.

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SAHM = Slap And Hit Men

Midwest Mom said...

"Jennifer D said...
that is an interesting question about how Kate spends her time. Seriously, what is she doing the rest of the day while she is away from her kids?"

She sits in her hotel room and tells God what material blessings she wants Him to send next.

Midwest Mom said...

Posted by Pink: "A supportive example of this is Hannah telling Steve he could not have a snack if he didn't take a nap."

Exactly !

That child is in for quite a rude awakening when she grows up and finds out the world does not care she is Hannah Gosselin, and the world does NOT revolve around her.

Shelly said...

Pink, thanks for posting that link. It breaks my heart that they use physical punishment on those sweet little kids. I was spanked as a child by my mother and her boyfriends well past the age of 12. It's humiliating and damaging. I have made a point to NEVER hit my daughter. I admit to grabbing a few times when she was toddler to get her attention, but the look on her face after made me feel like shit. Just because they no longer show Kate slapping Jon, doesn't mean is doesn't go on. They have admitted they spank off camera. I've seen the children flinch and melt down after a little dirt or water on their clothes. I have no doubt there is regular physical punishment. URGH, I'm sick thinking about it. It does effect self esteem,I know first hand.
The Gosselin children don't stand a chance. I'm 100% sure with all of the crap going on they will have self esteem issues that will carry on into their adult lives.
I'm sad for them.

luvinMYlife! said...

I just glanced at Amazon.com to see what Eight Little Faces got rated. It got 1 1/2 stars based on 38 customer reviews. Wow! That is horrible! Even Tori Spellings book got way better rateings. I think I'll read Tori's book instead. ;)

TLCtrystokeepthembabies said...

The Gosselins sextuplets turn 5 years old may 10th.. I teach 5 year olds and they are very opinionated but still moldable. Five year olds are not babies. I noticed that TLC keeps showing them as babies, I guess to get people to keep tuning in thinking they are still "babies". I think every 5 year old that I teach would rather be bee-stung than wear a bib. They already face peer-pressure at that age. It would embarrass them.

RealMom said...

I wish you would stop publicizing the cookbook, when it is coming out, and how to order it. That is part of the problem. If you stop talking about it maybe it will go away!

ladylou said...

I just wrote a letter to the publishing company Zondervan and complained about them promoting Kate's books. They publish the Bible and how they can publish these books is beyond me. I ask them did they even watch the show? Do they hear the news? I as Christian am fed up with Kon stating they are Christians! It makes me angry to stand behind the name yet do nothing to act Christian-like. The name Zondervan stood for something, now I'm beginning to wonder.

konspiracytheory said...

I have to say, I have three kids and have never once even considered striking them for any reason. I should also add that I am 100% in agreement with the posters who have said that many parents today do too much talking/whining/rationalizing/pleading with their kids. It obviously doesn't work, and frankly it's embarassing to witness. I am by no means a perfect parent, but my DH and I have worked hard to teach our kids that there are consequences to actions. We usually don't even get to that point though - our kids want to please us (as I think most kids do) so they usually do the right thing. Sorry to ramble - my point is that there is a happy medium between physical punishment and whimpy parenting.

siliconmom said...

First off, I saw the book at Costco. I read it in 5 minutes and it's definitely not worth 10 dollars IMHO. I guess if you're a huge fan of Kate, then ok.

As for the video:

Grabbing Alexis' shoulder - standard Kate. At least the other two times she had to reprimand her, she used "The Face".

I've watched it several times and did not hear or lipread her telling the kids to "Say I'm a good mommy". At the point where Mady starts talking, she's reprimanding Alexis.

Also, Mady's quote was, when asked by Kate why she doesn't like her siblings: "Sometimes they're annoying...(whispered) Sometimes they lie". I think that was clearly a reference to the younger kids, not her parents.

I also didn't hear Cara say "You mean we have to lie?" I hardly heard her say anything. But that's Cara. She's usually pretty quiet. She probably finds it gets her in less trouble with her parents.

I'm not a Kate fan, but that was my take on the interview.

Treece said...

jayley said:

"please provide one that shows that hitting your children provides positive results."

I in no way condone spanking itself, but being in Courtship, Family & Marriage, I did have to do some research.

First IMO Why I don't agree with spanking is because it left negative effects on ME, but many children are left unscaved. Second, I have noticed that many children when they get to the point that parents feel the need to spank, things like "No Park, No TV, No Cell Phone" etc, are like "OMG" to a child, and some will ask for a spanking rather than sitting and watching the News with their father (as my teacher told it), so other punishments are much more effective. And Third, Spanking IMHO is just the easy way out for a parent who many not believe in timeouts. And again it does depend on the child, but a normal child with behavioral problems should not need regular spanking. Oh and lastly, there's a VERY thin line between punishment and child abuse when it comes to spanking, and I was often left with WELTS on my legs and thighs...eventually making me detach from my father because he was a little hotheaded...

It was EXTReMELY hard to find the positive effects because just everyone wants to close the book on spanking. And people don't differentiate that thin line between an open hand spank on a clothed child, or a punch to a arm... One positive was immediate compliance. And honestly I would love to look for days until I found someone else doing research on it being okay, but I won't. Lol.

Honestly I've received everything up to slap in front class (embarassing as ever), hair pulled, ears pulled, etc., and I definitely don't think a strong hold on the shoulder is going to kill anyone. If she slapped Alexis...which she may do behind closed doors...is different because slapping is demeaning no matter your age. Like I said, Thin Line...I think with so many parenting views, it's obvious that it matters on the child, and the connection with the parent, and the overall mental stability of the child.
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Does anyone know if Kate has canceled any of these shows, or rather, shows before that? I assume she is getting more money (and spending half the time there), and doesn't cancel anymore?

Ava's Mommy said...

good one tallblonde, after the 2nd one I was like LOL.... YOU know B.M might be all over this one and might believe it. haha she is so gullible.
___________________________________
I've done some searching on the 'net - trying to find Jon's schedule and think I've found HIS "unpublished" schedule information for May:

Monday, 5/4
Days Inn
Reading Wyomissing
7:30pm - 2:00am
910 Woodland Road
Reading, PA

Tuesday, 5/5
Quality Inn Airport
Reading, PA
12:30pm - 2:30am

Wednesday, 5/6
Sam's Goosehouse
Reading, PA
4:00pm - Closing

Thursday 5/7
Econo Lodge Northeast
Reading, PA
12:30pm - 2:00am

Wednesday, 5/13
Comfort Inn
Reading, PA
12:30pm - 2:00am
2200 Stacy Drive, Reading, PA

Thursday 5/14
Holiday Inn Express
2389 Bernville Road
Reading, PA
12:30pm - 2:00am

Treece said...

What does DH mean? Sorry...I uh... don't understand some acronyms lol.

My5blessings said...

Treece wrote:

What does DH mean? Sorry...I uh... don't understand some acronyms lol.
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:):) It means "darling husband" or "darn husband" depends on your mood:)

My5blessings said...

Pink wrote:
Stunned, you're welcome for the clip. :-)

"That was quite a yank Kate gave Alexis...I'm a bit surprised HRH wasn't a bit more aware of herself in front of the (live?) camera."

It really was quite a yank, and I don't think Kate has any control over herself in public when she is in the rage mode. In her mind, control over others and events is paramount. An example of controlling events is her need to have an hour by hour action plan from Steve during the solar panel installation. I thought.....seriously?
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Exactly, it also begs the question... what happens to those children and others when the cameras aren't rolling?
I imagine if you aren't afraid to squeeze that hard, I'm sure she left a bruise, then you are not afraid to go much, much further.

Sharla said...

Good morning. Sorry but I must remind you kind readers this is a blog about the Gosselins and not our opinions about every other issue. Please keep the discussion somewhat related to the post topics, civil, and not a general discussion of approval or disapproval of various discipline methods.

Lovero'TMZ said...

TMZ Article - "John and Kate plus..." Each Other:

http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/04/jon-and-kate-plus-each-other/

Hilarious.

And by the way, Kate's fingernails are manicured, Jon's hairplugs are growing in, and her face is suuuuuun-burned. I'm just sayin'...

NancyM said...

In my opinion (and clearly I do not know the Gosselins) I think Jon and Kate are just stupid, shallow people. I also think they should stop doing the show because it seems to be harming their family. However, I do not think they abuse their children (have witnessed actual abuse and this is not it) and I am uncomfortable with questioning other people's Christianity. I am a Christian and I feel like sending emails to companies or publishers denigrating other people is not the kind of behavior I want to exhibit.

Niki said...

Here is a sample from the book: http://www.zondervan.com/media/samples/pdf/0310318467_samptxt.pdf

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that a sample would be something that would make me want to buy/read the book. Are thy freaking kidding me with that book?? Seriously? That's what it is.

We know Kate's not right in the head but shame on a publisher who would think that was worthy of publication.

Treece said...

TY My5Blessings for that. :D

Niki, is that a preview from the book eight little faces? That does not seem like a book worth $10 if thats just all the book is...

On the topic of Jon's Hairplugs...I was wondering how his bald spot mysteriously vanished, but I figured it was just an older episode...I guess not.

Would anyone feel a little better if Kate brought her Family with her on these little "book tours?" Or would it be too stressful? I would assume as well the twins would have school to go to. But if Kate took the tups, then Mady & Cara could get some peace to themselves...maybe..Just a thought

Laurie said...

THEY HAVE TO PUBLISH THE COOKBOOK! I've got two pieces of bread on the counter, one spread with peanut butter and the other with jelly (organic of course) - what do I do now???? Do I put the slices of bread together? If so HOW - peanut butter & jelly facing in or out????? I REALLY NEED KATE'S GUIDANCE!!!!

Only kidding of course. What I find interesting is that they are now saying: "Join us as we host America’s favorite TV mom, Kate Gosselin. Gosselin the star of the #1 rated cable show and author of Multiple Blessings, shares her story of the challenges that come with raising 8 year old twins and a set of sextuplets." Notice they give the age of the twins but not the tups. No matter how much they want to portray them as such, the tups are not babies or toddlers and the cute factor has worn thin. They are little kids about to start kindergarten.

Shelly's said...

re:TMZ Photo

That face says it all. The sad part is she looked like that before he allegedly cheated. Heck I would cheat on her too.

2badsosad said...

Would anyone feel a little better if Kate brought her Family with her on these little "book tours?" Or would it be too stressful? I would assume as well the twins would have school to go to. But if Kate took the tups, then Mady & Cara could get some peace to themselves...maybe..Just a thought

Absolutely not! The Gosselin children do NOT need to be paraded across country to accompany Kate on book signing tours no more than the need for cameras to be infringing upon the privacy of their home! What they DO need is a safe, secure, and consistent HOME life and the ability to go enjoy said life as CHILDREN!!

whatawickedweb said...

TMZ Article - "John and Kate plus..." Each Other:

http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/04/jon-and-kate-plus-each-other/

The picture reminds me of one of those 'can you find what's different', or 'what's missing' puzzles.

What's missing.

Their eight children
Kate's 'body gaurd'
The 'not a nanny'
Kate's BIB ( her mouth looks like she just left the dentist office)
Jon's jacket ( Babe, Jon needs his jacket)
The 'LOVE'
The word 'trifling'written on each of their forehead.
TLC camera and production crew
Fans 'mobbing' them

K8 H8ter said...

Final thought: I surely hope any 22 year old girl who thinks she may permanently want to enter Jon's life as the newest Gosselin has parents who will set her straight! My god. Dealing with Kate will be a nightmare. A man with 8 kids is a ridiculous prospect for a young woman; I don't care how cute the children seem.
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I completely agree with you! I am young, in college as a matter of fact, and currently dating my boyfriend of 2 years, who had a daughter while in high school. Let me tell you, her mother is a nightmare! She's crazy and manages to find out all of our business. It's really hard because he's also in college as a full-time student, works to pay child support, and tries to see his little girl every single day. AND THIS IS ONE CHILD. Obviously all this 22 year old girl sees is $$$ and fame because no one in their right mind would want to deal with a man with EIGHT kids, not to mention that bitch of an ex-wife Kate.

scoobydoobiedoo said...

Ha this is so funny!!!




"Serena - thanks so much for
posting that schedule!

I've done some searching on the 'net - trying to find Jon's schedule and think I've found HIS "unpublished" schedule information for May:

Monday, 5/4
Days Inn
Reading Wyomissing
7:30pm - 2:00am
910 Woodland Road
Reading, PA

Tuesday, 5/5
Quality Inn Airport
Reading, PA
12:30pm - 2:30am

Wednesday, 5/6
Sam's Goosehouse
Reading, PA
4:00pm - Closing

Thursday 5/7
Econo Lodge Northeast
Reading, PA
12:30pm - 2:00am

Wednesday, 5/13
Comfort Inn
Reading, PA
12:30pm - 2:00am
2200 Stacy Drive, Reading, PA

Thursday 5/14
Holiday Inn Express
2389 Bernville Road
Reading, PA
12:30pm - 2:00am

;-)

Niki said...

Yep, that's a preview from 8 Little Faces.

Ugh.

Treece said...

Laurie:
Do I put the slices of bread together? If so HOW - peanut butter & jelly facing in or out?????

You put them facing in, place a plastic cape over the kids so the boys don't drip the jelly, because you know how boys are. Then start cleaning as soon as they eat so they rush to finish and they're not sitting there for more than 10 minutes and can be put down for a nap.

3angelsmom said...

Laurie said:
"THEY HAVE TO PUBLISH THE COOKBOOK! I've got two pieces of bread on the counter, one spread with peanut butter and the other with jelly (organic of course) - what do I do now???? Do I put the slices of bread together? If so HOW - peanut butter & jelly facing in or out????? I REALLY NEED KATE'S GUIDANCE!!!!"

So funny - LMAO!!!

Ravello said...

Too bad this blog is not required reading for the dwindling army of sheeple that insist Kate is mother of the year. I'm bracing myself for Kate's Mothers Day interviews and being asked " Kate how do you do it all".
My heart aches for all 8 of the Gosselin children.
I'll bet money they film an episode this weekend, the tups birthday and Mothers Day. TLC will give the impression she never gets out of the house. And I'm guessing they will do the 5th birthday in grand style. They may have to hire actors to pretend to be friends and family. They need to counter last year's Cupcakegate episode and the recent bad publicity.

Blondie said...

I've posted a couple pretty smart-assed things over @BM'S house and have had not ONE reply. In fact nothing been said over there since yesterday a.m. Do you think they may have begun to see the light?

my9cats said...

Just saw the pictures on TMZ of KON taken at the PA show.
Wow talk about grim. Jon's dead meat. If he was not such an ass I might have a smidge of pity. The testosterone Jon lacks KAte has.

Anonymomma said...

I was once shopping in Victoria's Secret when a group of tween boys came into the store and began putting thongs on their head, generally acting like tweenaged boys. I looked around the store, which was pretty crowded. The other shoppers were mortified. The sales staff did nothing. I suppose out of fear of possible parental retalliation? Well the mom in me couldn't take it anymore. I yelled from across the store "Are your mothers in here shopping?". The boys were very cocky and replied "No! Duh!". So then I told them "Well neither are you, put it down (the underwear) and leave, now!". I kid you not lol, they nearly died of embarrassment. The rest of the store ust kind of looked at me and went about their shopping. But I am not very tolerable to that sort of thing. I think if you are going to take your kids to the mall, supervise them. If you can't, then you better be damn certain they are on their best behavior in public. I totally agree about parents who look the other way. But I do disagree with the way Kate disciplines. More than anything else she is inconsistent. You can't ignore your child 364 days out of the year and on the one day you pose them in front of a live audience, expect nothing but the best from them. Doesn't work that way. Discipline is and everyday, all the time thing. It's teaching self control. If the parents have no concern, the children won't have any control.

NahnCee said...

Kate has a habit of smacking Jon around, too, and then looks totally amazed when she's called on it -- like she hasn't got a clue what her hand is doing.

I have always felt sorry for Jon. When I did watch the show initially a couple of years ago, it seemed to me that what she was saying is that it was *her* idea to get the first in vitro that produced the twins, and then Kate alone insisted on going for a second in vitro.

I'm remembering that Jon pretty much had no say in the matter.

Then when she was told there would be multiples and was given the option to thin down the six, I remember her telling the camera that "I" simply couldn't do that. It was never, ever, "we" in that discussion about having 6 babies, but "I" and "me".

I had thought a couple of years ago that Jon would be bailing out because of her abuse and what a horrific mess that will be when he does. I just don't see where him staying in that marriage will benefit anyone, least of all that herd of poor little children.

State of California is gearing up to go after OctoMom. I wouldn't be surprised if some state (or federal) agency isn't watching Kate's ongoing behavior too. Least of all the IRS.

Treece said...

I remember her telling the camera that "I" simply couldn't do that. It was never, ever, "we" in that discussion about having 6 babies, but "I" and "me".
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She did say that her and Jon were both against Reduction, and while looking for a video or written testimony I found this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35hg1c7jYHM

That does not answer the question, but I think everyone should fast-forward to 2:30. I know we're all beating a dead horse on Mady's behavior but this one really just stood out. I was like wow.

And here: "When Kate's obstetrician suggested selective reduction, both Kate and Jon immediately rejected the idea. "Who would live and who would die was not a decision that rested in our hands," Kate explains." Source: http://www.christianitytoday.com/tcw/2009/janfeb/1.22.html

I mean Kate does ALOT of talking, but I don't see it unreasonable that both Jon & Kate would object to reduction. And she got an IUI, I really get discouraged when people say IVF because they are different. :D

Aunt Chris said...

And she got an IUI, I really get discouraged when people say IVF because they are different. :D


How 'bout a quick tutorial for those of us not quite sure of the difference?

Treece said...

An IUI is an Intrauterine Insemination. What they do is they give the woman drugs to ovulate (if needed & hope she does), and then inserts the males sperm into her Uterus. This is a little more of a guessing game because who knows how many eggs will actually get to mature?

In IVF, the eggs are removed from mom, Sperm is taken from dad, Eggs are fertilized OUTSIDE of mom, and a certain number of eggs are implanted back in mom. In this case you KNOW what you're getting and the only that can happen is you get less.

I hope that clarifies it now. :D

Stupid Girl said...

The "other woman" is speaking out on People.com - not so sure that this damage control really swung the right way.

My favorite line? "Nobody calls me babe."

Uh-huh.

overwithKON said...

Laurie said...
THEY HAVE TO PUBLISH THE COOKBOOK! I've got two pieces of bread on the counter, one spread with peanut butter and the other with jelly (organic of course) - what do I do now???? Do I put the slices of bread together? If so HOW - peanut butter & jelly facing in or out????? I REALLY NEED KATE'S GUIDANCE!!!!

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ROFPMP!!!!! Great comment! I dont think I know how to do this either? How do I cut it if I do get it together!? This cookbook from the greatest scam artist(I mean MOM) is the biggest joke yet.

1. Who buys many cookbooks anymore? I get all my recipes for FREE(google search = thousands come up!), and they are hard, not PB&J.

2. Love is in the mix? YEah right! Can anyone still believe this???? Seriously?

Sheezzzzzzz

Nanasez said...

The difference between Kate Gosselin and Betty Hayes (Table for Twelve) is like night and day. After watching TF12 tonight, I just had to leave a comment on the TLC site thanking them for this show. Watching how much Betty enjoys her children and the good humor that she maintains while taking care of them makes it clear that she loves being a mother. In contrast, Kate's constant complaining, griping, snapping, and now her happiness over her frequent absences from her family make it seem that she hates being a mother. Marketing her kids is much more important to Kate than nurturing their souls.

Natalie and Abigail said...

I just have to say...

I'm not sure why but I find it hilarious that her stupid Shutterfly project spells out ELF!

NCtwinmommy said...

Treece said...
In IVF, the eggs are removed from mom, Sperm is taken from dad, Eggs are fertilized OUTSIDE of mom, and a certain number of eggs are implanted back in mom. In this case you KNOW what you're getting and the only that can happen is you get less.
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Just to clarify... in IVF, the embryos are not "implanted" they are transferred. Not every embryo that is transferred actually implants into the uterine lining. Doctors do not have the ability to "implant" an embryo to create a pregnancy, which is why IVF is not always successful.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

Have any of you seen them personally on this tour?

Va Mom said...

I just checked out the latest on the AOL poll of worest mom's and our dear dear Kate is now #2. You go girl!!!

Treece said...

Nanasez: The difference between Kate Gosselin and Betty Hayes (Table for Twelve) is like night and day.
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And she has a child with...Cerebral palsy was it? Omg, Kate's life is so hard.

The different personalities definitely stand out between the two. I think Kate is definitely more esily stressed.

gorenknows said...

Ok, I admit it, I bought the first book.
Fool me once, shame on you.........

At least Jon will get some not-so-alone time.

And just what will become of the Kids when this all unravels?
This would Dr. Phil a whole week!

hereshecomes said...

Nanasez, I agree completely with your comments about Betty Hayes and Kate. Something else I like about the Hayes family that seems to be missing in the Gosselin clan is the way the kids seem to enjoy being together. The older kids enjoy the little ones and talk and play with them. The Hayes children seem to be respected as individuals--the Gosselins tend to treat the children as a pack.

Treece said...

Ohhh interesting: "Kate does most of the talking, telling us that their TV show "is the realest reality show there is. You get the good, the bad and the ugly," and she wouldn't go back to the way things were before they were on the air. She says that the family thinks of the show as "our family job, one that lets us stay home together."" Source: http://www.parentdish.com/2009/04/08/jon-and-kate-set-the-record-straight/

My5blessings said...

Treece said...
In IVF, the eggs are removed from mom, Sperm is taken from dad, Eggs are fertilized OUTSIDE of mom, and a certain number of eggs are implanted back in mom. In this case you KNOW what you're getting and the only that can happen is you get less.
------------------------------------NCtwinmommy wrote:
Just to clarify... in IVF, the embryos are not "implanted" they are transferred. Not every embryo that is transferred actually implants into the uterine lining. Doctors do not have the ability to "implant" an embryo to create a pregnancy, which is why IVF is not always successful.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I was thinking the same thing.

Also, taking this one step further.

You actually can get more with IVF.
Look at Nadya Suleman. She had 6 transfers and gave birth to 8 babies.

I personally have never believed Kate. (I do not know for sure, noone but Kate knows)I *think* Kate helped herself along in the ovarian stimulation into hyper-stimulation, thus increasing her odds of a higher multiple pregnancy. Just my thoughts. Her record of dishonesty doesn't help my belief in this theory. I could be dead wrong.........

But, yes you can have more babies with IVF than what is transferred.

My5blessings said...

Ohhh interesting: "Kate does most of the talking, telling us that their TV show "is the realest reality show there is. You get the good, the bad and the ugly," and she wouldn't go back to the way things were before they were on the air. She says that the family thinks of the show as "our family job, one that lets us stay home together."" Source: http://www.parentdish.com/2009/04/08/jon-and-kate-set-the-record-straight/
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I've heard this before. All I can say is, a while back I saw a show and she did a ridiculous amount of "re-takes" for her "lines" on how to save money or go shopping. Can't remember now. What I do remember thinking and posting here is, that is NOT reality.
While yes, they cut things out, edit the show to shorten it.
Reality isn't being given lines to read. That is a show.
So, once again Kate isn't being honest when she makes this statement of their show being reality.
It's far from a Reality show.

Windy said...

Pink said...
I doubt Kate will be showing-up at any upcoming speaking engagements or appearances with her kids again. I know this is an older video clip (1/09), but a few things stood out to me.

1. She severely grabbed Alexis' shoulder, and the tup notably flinched with pain, continuing to pull at her arm for a period of time afterward, trying to make the sting go away.

2. Mady laughed at this, as if it was a happy, magical moment for her to watch her mom inflict pain on Alexis.

3. When the host asked the kids if Kate was a great mom, you can clearly hear Kate nervously whispering to them to "say yes"!!! They all hesitated to do so (the twins did say she was), but then Mady quickly added "we like dad better though".

4. Kate begin that interview in such a cold way, making it difficult for the host. Of course, that is her personality showing thru. Additionally. she was unable once again, to control her kids in a calm manner. I bet the scene afterwards was not a pleasant one.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4764337
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Take a look at about the 3:37 mark in this clip where Mady is crying and rubbing her chest and says to Take "you hurt me." This seems to be something Kate does quite often. What did she do that she hurt the childs chest?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TohAkDejeKo

My5blessings said...

Nanasez, I agree completely with your comments about Betty Hayes and Kate. Something else I like about the Hayes family that seems to be missing in the Gosselin clan is the way the kids seem to enjoy being together. The older kids enjoy the little ones and talk and play with them. The Hayes children seem to be respected as individuals--the Gosselins tend to treat the children as a pack.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I can't speak much as to how these people live their lives having only seen a very small portion of their show a bit ago.

I do not watch J&K anymnore and I do not watch the Hayes at all.
They seemed nice for what I did see.

What I have said before and I'll ask the question again.

Isn't it still child exploitation?
I've heard some posts where these children too have been filmed in situations that were less than desirable.

Are we here to help children who are exploited?

I'll just add I'm happy ( truly) that these people seem to have it all together and are good/loving parents. I do not think they should have cameras rolling in their home.

LeoGirl said...

Does anyone notice in the video Kate tells Alexis "hands to yourself" while Kate is grabbing Alexis.

Pink said...

My5blessings wrote:
"Exactly, it also begs the question... what happens to those children and others when the cameras aren't rolling?
I imagine if you aren't afraid to squeeze that hard, I'm sure she left a bruise, then you are not afraid to go much, much further."
_____________________
I have so often thought that very same thing. These things go on in front of the camera, so common sense tells us it only gets worse when they are not being filmed. I wonder why it hasn't occurred to the Gosselins' that their discipline techniques are ineffective? In Kate's case, the answer seems clear. She is so far removed from that home & her kids, I doubt she puts too much thought into it anymore. Her primary focus is herself.

Blaker said...

Kate's stop in Michigan will include a tutorial on how to run a stress-free home. Have they never watched the show?

This whole thing is a joke. First $150 for a ticket then tips on running a stress free home from a woman who stresses everyone out, even the viewers!

bflohockeygirl said...

>>3angelsmom said,
It looks like you could pre-order the cookbook from the Zondervan website ($29.99 for a hardcover). The amount of detail on the listing - 140 pages, due out Nov 2009 - makes me wonder if they are actually considering a tour cancellation/separation from her or if the error message is just a computer glitch. I know nothing about the publishing industry, just curious.<<

A book with a Nov. 2009 pub date is likely all but finished already - it could be being edited, or it could be ready to go to the printer - it depends on how far in advance the publisher works (and I've never worked with Zondervan, so I don't know that).

It is most certainly under contract at this point. Depending on how the contract is written, Zondervan could be in breach if they cancel for any reason other than the final manuscript not being acceptable (as far as what the publisher and Kate/her agent/whatever agreed with regard to content, page count, etc.).

I don't know whether the error message on the Web site is a glitch, but I doubt it has anything to do with the upcoming book. At this point Zondervan will have paid advance(s) on the book, and most likely paid people (either freelance or in-house) to edit and design the book. Depending again on the terms of the contract, it could cost the company more *not* to publish the book than to go ahead at this point. They may be banking on stronger sales with this one, since it's something "useful" rather than just a novelty item - there are still enough sheeple to buy a Kate Gosselin cookbook, even if they aren't all that jazzed with the scrapbook.

Just my $.02, based on 10+ years in the industry...

bflohockeygirl said...

>>My5blessings said:
I personally have never believed Kate. (I do not know for sure, noone but Kate knows)I *think* Kate helped herself along in the ovarian stimulation into hyper-stimulation, thus increasing her odds of a higher multiple pregnancy. Just my thoughts. Her record of dishonesty doesn't help my belief in this theory. I could be dead wrong......... <<

I'll see your disbelief & raise you a "I've never believed she was infertile in the first place."

Yeah, I'm a bitch. But after 6 YEARS of infertility (and hell, I'm still infertile, although I am so fortunate to be the mother of a beautiful 5-month-old whose birth mother saw something special in my husband & me and chose us to be her parents) - I haven't the slightest bit of patience for her faux-infertility garbage.

My heart broke reading that article last week - I think it was from an appearance in Raleigh? - where a woman who had been trying to get pregnant for nearly a year asked how she stayed strong during her struggle with infertility. Struggle? She got pregnant and GAVE BIRTH TO TWINS in a shorter period time than this woman has been trying to simply get pregnant. What the hell does she know about a struggle?

I have no idea how she managed to get treated for infertility so quickly after she got married (I'm presuming they didn't start trying to get pregnant until after they got married, because of the Christianity thing & all), but it really chaps my butt to hear some woman who probably has more grace and patience and strength in her little finger than Kate Gosselin has in her whole body ask her about her "struggle" with infertility when she got treated very quickly & got pregnant with multiples, right away, both times. That woman wouldn't know a struggle if it jumped up & bit her in the ass.

3angelsmom said...

bflohockeygirl:

Congratulations on your new baby! :)

Kristen said...

Tuesday, 4/28
Borders #682,
Newport News, VA
7:00 - 9:00 pm
12300 Jefferson Ave, Suite 100, Newport News, VA 23602


Oh God she's coming to haunt me, that's 10 minutes from here, noooooo!

Kristen said...

Oops, typo, she was here, I'm getting my dates wrong. I forgot it's May....I'm losing it!

MM2005 said...

bflohockeygirl said...

A book with a Nov. 2009 pub date is likely all but finished already - it could be being edited, or it could be ready to go to the printer - it depends on how far in advance the publisher works (and I've never worked with Zondervan, so I don't know that).

It is most certainly under contract at this point. Depending on how the contract is written, Zondervan could be in breach if they cancel for any reason other than the final manuscript not being acceptable (as far as what the publisher and Kate/her agent/whatever agreed with regard to content, page count, etc.).

I don't know whether the error message on the Web site is a glitch, but I doubt it has anything to do with the upcoming book. At this point Zondervan will have paid advance(s) on the book, and most likely paid people (either freelance or in-house) to edit and design the book. Depending again on the terms of the contract, it could cost the company more *not* to publish the book than to go ahead at this point. They may be banking on stronger sales with this one, since it's something "useful" rather than just a novelty item - there are still enough sheeple to buy a Kate Gosselin cookbook, even if they aren't all that jazzed with the scrapbook.
_______________________________
Regarding the cookbook, my initial posting involved my experience with a single publisher. That publisher was a small miche publisher, like Zondervan.

From the book contracts I've seen and worked with, until the book is accepted, the publisher can back out. Period. In fact, the loop holes are huge. So, whether, as in this case, a cookbook is submitted with the proper number of pages, the publisher may still reject the manuscript.

When they reject the manuscript they may ask for revisions until they are pleased, but time constraints may limit just how long the author has to "fix" the book, and in the end they may still reject it. And, yes, it can be just that arbitrary.

Who knows, Zondervan may have been happy to publish a cookbook with recipes for Peanut Butter and Banana Sandwiches when Kate was riding high, but now it might not look like such a brillian idea.

The most expensive cost of publishing any book is printing. If things look dicey and presales are weak, Zondervan may go ahead with a small book run, or if the bad press continues, may just reject the manuscript and work out a settlement with her.

All of this is conjecture, just having fun with the "error message" on their website, but my experience with publishers leaves the author's in a pretty weak position unless they happen to be Stephen King.

Certainly, the odds are the cookbook will be published, but it we don't know how far along in the process the cookbook is, and as anxious as we all are to get our hands on the proper method to make a peanut butter and banana sandwich, the publisher has options if they want out.

Laura said...

I am so looking forward to the cancellation of this show! And the 20/20 special 10 yrs from now when the kids get in trouble with the law. You know it's coming!

bflohockeygirl said...

>>From the book contracts I've seen and worked with, until the book is accepted, the publisher can back out. Period. In fact, the loop holes are huge. So, whether, as in this case, a cookbook is submitted with the proper number of pages, the publisher may still reject the manuscript.

When they reject the manuscript they may ask for revisions until they are pleased, but time constraints may limit just how long the author has to "fix" the book, and in the end they may still reject it. And, yes, it can be just that arbitrary. <<

I'm aware of all of this, and am intimately familiar with the process - I've worked as an editor for more than a decade. :)

What I was getting at in my response to 3angelsmom is that with a November pub date, the book is likely close to finished. To your points above - the manuscript has almost certainly been accepted by the publisher, since it's due to be released in 6 months. Again, I don't know how close Zondervan works to its pub dates, but it would be highly unusual to not have accepted the manuscript at this point - by now it should at least be being edited, if not typeset/in design.

That being the case, if Zondervan tried to back out now (after having accepted the manuscript for publication) - depending on how the contract is written - canceling the book now could be breach of contract.

The cost of printing the book is - as you mention - dependent on the size of the print run; depending on how much has already been paid in advances (which won't be realized in sales if the book isn't published, and which isn't required to be returned to the publisher if the publisher cancels the book in breach of contract with the author), *and* if Kate chose to pursue legal action against the company, it could very easily become more expensive for them to cancel the book than to print it & see how it goes.

It certainly is fun to speculate about what's going on, and I'm sure most of us would get a good chuckle if Zondervan dropped the Gosselins cold. I thought I would add my thoughts based on my experiences in the industry; sorry if that makes me a killjoy. *shrug*

2badsosad said...

"I am so looking forward to the cancellation of this show! And the 20/20 special 10 yrs from now when the kids get in trouble with the law. You know it's coming!"

I am so looking forward to the E! channel's chronology of Jon and Kate Gosselin's rise to fame and fall to shame.

MM2005 said...

bflohockeygirl said...
It certainly is fun to speculate about what's going on, and I'm sure most of us would get a good chuckle if Zondervan dropped the Gosselins cold. I thought I would add my thoughts based on my experiences in the industry; sorry if that makes me a killjoy. *shrug*
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bflhockeygirl, I don't think you are a killjoy but breach of contract will occur only if they have accepted the book, and we simply don't know if they have or not.

Our experiences are different. I've seen manuscripts submitted, under contract, in March for a November publication date that were not looked at by the publisher (way behind schedule) until well into June. There was no acceptance until the publisher reviewed the manuscript.

You are absolutely correct that there are plenty of sheeple happy to buy anything KON creates -- and as long as that's the case, the book will be published.

"The Mystery Tour" remains a mystery. The error message still appears on the Zondervan site when clicking on the ELF book signing tour.

MM2005 said...

I am passing along a link that was posted in the free discussion area.

http://www.usmagazine.com/news/jon-and-kate-dads-three-month-affair-confirmed-200955

Mikemom said...

VA Mom, who's the number one worst MOM Joan Crawford??? I can picture Kate running thru the house
"No wire hangers"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My5blessings said...

bflohockeygirl wrote:

>>My5blessings said:
I personally have never believed Kate. (I do not know for sure, noone but Kate knows)I *think* Kate helped herself along in the ovarian stimulation into hyper-stimulation, thus increasing her odds of a higher multiple pregnancy. Just my thoughts. Her record of dishonesty doesn't help my belief in this theory. I could be dead wrong......... <<

I'll see your disbelief & raise you a "I've never believed she was infertile in the first place."

Yeah, I'm a bitch. But after 6 YEARS of infertility (and hell, I'm still infertile, although I am so fortunate to be the mother of a beautiful 5-month-old whose birth mother saw something special in my husband & me and chose us to be her parents) - I haven't the slightest bit of patience for her faux-infertility garbage.

My heart broke reading that article last week - I think it was from an appearance in Raleigh? - where a woman who had been trying to get pregnant for nearly a year asked how she stayed strong during her struggle with infertility. Struggle? She got pregnant and GAVE BIRTH TO TWINS in a shorter period time than this woman has been trying to simply get pregnant. What the hell does she know about a struggle?

I have no idea how she managed to get treated for infertility so quickly after she got married (I'm presuming they didn't start trying to get pregnant until after they got married, because of the Christianity thing & all), but it really chaps my butt to hear some woman who probably has more grace and patience and strength in her little finger than Kate Gosselin has in her whole body ask her about her "struggle" with infertility when she got treated very quickly & got pregnant with multiples, right away, both times. That woman wouldn't know a struggle if it jumped up & bit her in the ass.
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My chips are in the pile and on the same page as you!

I've said the exact same thing on this blog. If she had fertility problems is a HUGE if.

Sort of a moot point now.

If she did, which I agree with you, I absolutely believe she augmented her own program as far as stimulating the amount of eggs released.
I think you can find any doctor willing to hand out the fertility drugs. We've seen it recently in a different way, but the end result was the same. 8 babies. (IVF)

Again, agree completely. NO struggle in my opinion. I'm pretty fertile and she certainly got pregnant faster than I did in a couple of instances!

The person you read about and your own struggle is heartbreaking.

My desire has always been to have a family. I was certainly given my wish, dream desire and I'm thrilled for you to have a precious soul entrusted to you as well. 5 months is an adorable, fun age! Actually I say that about all ages. LOL

Loved your post and Congratulations on your little one. Enjoy, they really do grow up in the blink of an eye.

herekittykitty said...

Kate Gosselin: Not a Stay-at-Home-Mom but She Plays One on TV

We said...

I just watched the clip where the Gosselins were @ the amusement park and Mady was crying and touching her chest. Some wonder what Kate did to Mady to make her holler like that. My thought are that it was so darn hot that day and Mady sometimes over-reacts. I think that the heat made all those children cranky.What a day to take 8 children. Anything for ratings.

nccalgal said...

As I said on a previous thread, Zondervan Publishing was bought by Harper Row in the late 80's. IT IS NOT A CHRISTIAN PUBLISHING COMPANY anymore. My Dad owned a Christian Bookstore in the 50's and 60's and knew the Zondervans. I'm sure they are turning over in their graves over what H/R has done to their company. It is their "Inspirational" arm now. Many of the authors that they promote through Zondervan don't even profess to be Christians.

Serena said...

IT IS NOT A CHRISTIAN PUBLISHING COMPANY anymore.

Their mission statement, published on their own webpage, states:

"To be the leader in Christian communications meeting the needs of people with resources that glorify Jesus Christ and promote biblical principles."

My5blessings said...

Serena wrote:

Their mission statement, published on their own webpage, states:

"To be the leader in Christian communications meeting the needs of people with resources that glorify Jesus Christ and promote biblical principles."
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Sure sounds like they are promoting the Christian values.......Did I misunderstand? Nah..........

nccalgal said...

Regardless of their mission statement, their driving force is the same as the charming k&j, MONEY

Robin said...

I posted this on one of the other posts but it may have gotten buried...since this is Zondervan related..they are taking comments on their blog...quite a few interesting ones already.

http://zondervan.typepad.com/zondervan/2009/05/the-gosselins-to-appear-on-the-today-show-tomorrow.html

Sal said...

It makes me crazy when Kate brags she is a great mom and loves her kids when she is rarely home. That is not love, but neglect plain and simple.

Wouldn't it be great if she stopped the book tour and speaking tour for a time while they deal with all this?
Chances are she will keep going as she usually does. So far she has not slowed down at all.
The woman has no shame or real love for her family.

nccalgal said...

The point I was trying to make is Harper Row decides what will be published under the Zondervan name, and I would bet that K8's drivel does not meet the standards for the Harper Row label, but they saw $$$$$$$ because of their popularity and foisted it on Zondervan. I would suggest writing to them and voicing your opinion there as well. It just bothers me that the reputation that the Zondervans worked so hard to build up and maintain is being soiled by Harper Row.

Mom said...

Kate said that she wrote these books so that her children could have it "In writting" that she loved them. Ahhh my kids know it and I didnt have to write a book.

Wendy said...

Kate Gosselin was on the Today Show today to promote herself, show, books etc. She then was asked to address the issues in the headlines about her husband. She raised the question that we should ask ourselves if the story is true that people tell about them because they are getting paid. She said how can we believe these people because they are getting paid to tell these stories. I ask her this: why should we believe the story you are portraying on tv and in books because you are getting paid to tell these stories? If you wanna talk being paid, you are making the most money and are exploiting your family. The "only" reason your family is in the media is because you put them there. You put them there by appearing on national television every chance you can get and shamelessly promote your book anywhere and everywhere. You wanted fame, duh, people are going to want to know the truth. The truth seems to be turning out that you are the one who is lying and other people are able to publish these stories because your story is a lie. You are a fake stay-at-home mom that hardly even sees or let alone interacts with her children. If only you really do do everything for your children as you said on the Today Show. You would get a nursing job and stay out of the public's eye. You cannot ask America to watch your "reality" show and then not ask the to search for the truth in your story. You aren't in a soap opera or a sitcom, you are proclaiming that this is your real life. People are just simply pointing out that you are a LIAR. Kate Gosselin the reason people are able to make money running these stories is because you and your husband are LIARS. Who are you to talk about making money off of other people's stories, you are the mom who is making money off of her children's stories. I think that what you are putting your children through is much worse. You were put in their lives to protect them from harm and yet you are pushing them in front of a moving vehicle every chance you get for fame. These other people are just doing their jobs, whatever they may be. They are not these children's mother. You are so much worse.

lilmamaD said...

Robin said...
I posted this on one of the other posts but it may have gotten buried...since this is Zondervan related..they are taking comments on their blog...quite a few interesting ones already.

http://zondervan.typepad.com/zondervan/2009/05/the-gosselins-to-appear-on-the-today-show-tomorrow.html

5/07/2009 8:52 AM

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I too went to this address and submitted my thoughts to them and my concern that Zondervan would promote Kate & Jon Gosselin. There were alot of other posts with the same general comments. My post did go through on there, I saw it up there, then went back later to check on how many more comments had accumulated. Once again Zondervan has pulled a "Kate" page. I cannot link to the page now, keep getting the "file not found" message. Interesting.....

Ann said...

For some reason 8 little faces jumped into the amazon top 100 today. I check the gold box deals everyday and usually check in to see the reviews and how many books Miss Kate has sold. The box is usually ranked between 550-750 but today it hit the top 100. Could all this affair talk be good for book sales??

xmaskim said...

re: Kate's insane book tour: I am an author who has to go on booktours - most authors do. My latest - Misery Loves Cabernet just came out, so I'm going through it right now. I am also the mother of a 7 year old. That schedule is insane. You can't be gone from your kids for 5 days at a time, and certainly not for weeks on end. Book tours are also largely timewasters for the author. The woman who talked about Kate only being there for 30 minutes - that must have pissed off the bookstore, because you're supposed to be there for 2 hours, and you're supposed to chat with your readers - first of all they're there to support you, but they also took the time to come see you.
An author makes anywhere from 1-2 dollars per book. Let's even say it's 3 in her case. How many people normally come to a booksigning? Anywhere from 0 (it happens) to 40 or 50. So we're talking $150 to spend the day in a town without your kids, plus all the travel time? I'm not saying no signings, but those are some seriously screwed up priorities.