The Hole Gets Deeper and Deeper

Us Weekly has a new article about Jon's new friend. Her brother speaks up... making me kinda glad I don't have a brother.

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Alexis said...

I feel so sorry for the kids.

jill said...

Her brother is either a huge jerk or he is really worried about his sister.

What is a 32 yr. old man doing with a 23 yr. old girl...More than talking, that is for sure!

No joke, Kate needs to get tested. Lord knows this may not be the first girl he has been with while married! Sad.

jess said...

Normally I would ne infuriated but having watched the disgusting and horrific way she treats him I saw this coming as did everyone else with a brain! Maybe religious veiwers will realize Jon & Kate are ruining their childrens lives for money and fame...And as we all know their greed got them where they are. maybe she will pull that huge stick out of her butt

Dobzy said...

I hope they fess up now and end this charade.

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are other people having this problem? I cannot get in to read any of the new comments..it just puts me back to the entry..

marsneeze said...

"Wow", all I can say is "wow". If Kate wasn't such an emasculating, greedy wench...Jon being such a beat-up moron..... Those two are such a trainwreck.

I just wish we could hear Maddy & Cara's side of this. They sure are going to need to talk to someone and get professional help for the damage Kate has done to them all. Yep, I put the blame on her. She has made some very horrible decisions for her family and just destroyed her marriage because of her greed and narcissistic personality.

Yeah, I don't think my brother would rat me out like that for public humiliation.

Megan said...

I still can't get over "Ick. Nast". LOL!

But I honestly feel terrible for the kids. It's just so awful that they have to go through this.

Annies said...

This knocked me for a loop and as much as most of us have been guilty of saying some unkind things about J&K and family, no one deserves to have such specific details put out there like this. The kids, especially Cara and Mady-- God bless them. This is a mess. I hope they don't hear about it at school or elsewhere.

Snerk said...

I saw where one of the other places was blaming "bloggers" again for Maddy and Cara's issues. I have to say again, what is on the blogs is nothing to what the parents have done to those children.

Steph said...

There are two ways to look at the brother...either he is trying to get his sister to realize that she is being used OR he is a douchenozzle.

They are close enough that they share a house, so I am guessing that he doesn't want his naive sister to get hurt. Which, of course, she will.

I don't understand how Deanna, a second grade teacher, could be unaware of the damage this is doing to Madelyn and Cara. Unless she hopes to be involved in their lives one day, and can give them more than Kate--err, the nannies--can.

HannaBelleLechter said...

Jon has now succeeded in making me feel sorry for Kate. How the heck did he accomplish that?! I've been her biggest critic for a while now, but nobody deserves this kind of public humiliation.

Hindsight is 20/20, but some of the things I've been thinking/writing for a while have more gravitas now than just my own random thought-processes. For example:

* Kate's command to the kids that they never set foot in her bedroom. I wondered then what she was hiding. I though perhaps Jon wasn't sharing the room anymore.

* In the episode that took the family back to the old house one last time for clean up, Kate was alone, separating items into keep/discard/donate, when one of the littlest girls came in. The child was excited to tell Kate something but when she saw what her mom was doing, the child caught herself up short. She asked, "why you throwin daddy's thing away?" Her tone and face were forlorn. I thought at the time, sweetie-pie knows something.

* The body language on the loveseat, the lack of eye contact, the fact that neither Kate nor Jon were in a series of scenes together (one or the other, but seldom together) sent up red flags.

* The virtual disappearance of Mady and Cara from the show. The girls must have known for a while that their parents had separated. Rather than put them in a position of lying or keeping the secret, Kate (maybe Jon, too) have kept the girls off-screen.

* The strange disappearance of Jen and Scott, TLC producers/camera. Why? Like thieves in the night, they were gone.

So, what are we to believe? As soon as the Gosselins made the move to the mansion, everything fell apart? One night, with Kate on the road, Jon started his pattern of local-barhopping into the wee hours? Hooked up with a young woman? He moved into his own aprt/crib in the separate wing of the house? Since the twins' bedroom is in that wing, the twins know exactly what's going on.

The couple has been living a lie? Kate emasculates Jon often, as we've witnessed, so his unhappiness isn't a surprise. Jon has abandoned Kate emotionally and physically now, so her unhappiness is expected.

Instead of putting on an act, why not try to repair their broken marriage? Counseling? Something? A 9-year marriage that produced 8 kids can end overnight? No fight left in either one of them? It's a tragedy.

And the children! If I were Kate, I'd be in terror over what kind of people Jon is now hanging with, bringing into his children's lives. Or will Kate fight to keep the kids away from him? Will he fight to be rid of the kids? If he could give up on his wife so easily, what about his kids? What about when he starts a new, more manageable family of 1 or 2 single kids? The Kate-born 8 will be forgotten by Dad? Another tragedy.

I don't know these people personally, of course, but tonight I feel a terrible sense of sadness.

And I'm sorry to say that the new girlfriend is nothing but a skank. 23, at bars regularly, happy to go off with a married man, father of 8. Sleeping with him under his roof, that he technically still shares with his wife and kids. I don't care what kind of sob story he gave her. She has no morals.

She's a 3-rd grade teacher?! She better hope she's not teaching at a Catholic or Lutheran school or any Bible-based school. They have morals clauses in their contracts.

Michelle~ said...

I really hope this will be the straw on the camel's back but I doubt it.
Still got season 5 coming up soon..
Gah, wonder if Jon's mother's foot is still gonna be broken by then ;]

AmyC said...

GagMeWithASpoon! said...
are other people having this problem? I cannot get in to read any of the new comments..it just puts me back to the entry..

5/05/2009 10:04 PM


I'm having the same problem...

koko said...

i got this feeling that KATE is getting it somewhere also...my inkling would...with a male producer for the show who she had dinner with for her bday without JOHN only with the kids

Trudy said...

HannaBelle, don't feel too sorry for Kate. She's been "doing her own thing" only we don't have pictures all over the internet. This isn't a one-sided deal. They separated and each is going his or her own way. Jon didn't end the marriage with an affair. The marriage ended all but legally awhile back. They were together only for the show and the money and have tried to deceive their fans and viewers.

JJ28 said...

I can't believe how "big" Jon and Kate have become. They're on ALL the gossip sites now and in all the magazines. What happened to the innocent, struggling young family trying to make ends meet? Sometimes I forget Jon & Kate Plus 8 is a show in TLC for crying out loud! Since when does TLC turn out 'celebs'? I guess Kate must be in heaven now, she's "made it", and Jon just seems miserable. They'll probably get divorced by the end of the year. They have two completely different agendas, Kate loves the fame and Jon hates it and would rather be anonymous.

Sarah said...

You know what. I'm not glad that this happened, but there are things that happen when you don't show your husband any respect, and treat him like a child. Not that Jon should've cheated, it was very wrong. Men have deep needs. They need respect, they need physical affection. Just like women need love and emotional support. When you start putting other things above your relationship with your husband, or your wife, it scars your relationship.

Kate, or producers of the show-- We know you read this! Please get Mady and Cara into counseling! Actually, get all of them into counseling. This is going to scar them forever if they don't get help! Trust me when I say this! If any of you really care about these innocent children, that didn't ask for any of this, you will do whatever it takes to get them help!

Hilary said...

It will be interesting to see how Kate handles the allegations on Larry King.

jayley said...

Are we jealous now?, Never have been and never will be. Money can't buy you love.

Hilary said...

Do you think this is all a publicity stunt for Season 5 and upcoming books?

Sumith said...

Okay, so maybe the brother is a pissant, but what about the way Deanna is treating him? They share a house together. He has to listen while his sister has sex with a married man. He has to watch Jon slink in and out.

I would be completely disgusted if my sibling put me in that position. It shows a complete lack of respect.

If she gave a damn about his feelings, she wouldn't be behaving in such a slutty fashion in the first place.

kate is a cocky bitch said...

I'm sorry I can't stand The Queen, but what else do you call a young girl who goes after a married man other than a home-wrecker?? The plot thicken...

ClevelandRocks said...

J&K's relationship has been over for ages. I think they've both moved on and are faking it for the camera. Think about it. If Kate was that upset, she wouldn't continue to tour. People have cancelled appearances for much less. I think Kate not only knows, she doesn't care. Why no statement from Kate?

They both checked out of this marriage a while ago, I'd say Kate before Jon, we saw the couch interviews every week. Kate hasn't been involved in the day to day activities for I don't even know how long. We saw her repeatedly not knowing what was going on with her kids, not questioning what she missed, not even be interested when Jon told the cameras, and the kids barely respond to her. We saw Jon grow more and more frustrated, refuse to speak on the couch, and completely glaze over with her. Catatonic stare anyone? This hasn't been a healthy marriage a year or more.

I'd like to think this isn't just some random hook up. It's going to be hard enough for the kids to have a divorce, but a random string of girls is going to make it even worse. So far the only non-posed pics we've seen are of this girl. Depending on what story you read, he's known her for months, days, years. Her skeezy brother doesn't sound like the most up and up source. It is possible J&K are separated and this is the woman he's moved on to. This won't be a quick divorce, I doubt either one would wait for it to be finalized.

HannaBelleLechter said...

I have to disagree that Kate brought Jon's infidelity and horndog-behavior on herself. NOBODY deserves to be abandoned sexually and emotionally in a marriage. Whether Kate abandoned Jon first (figuratively, with her shrewishness, or literally, with another man) or whether Jon abandoned Kate first (emotionally and sexually with Babe), each person is responsible for his/her own behaviors. Blaming it on your spouse 100 percent is b.s. That's opposite from the very definition of marriage.

If Jon was miserable at home, he owed it to himself, Kate and the kids to at least try to work things out. Maybe they did try? We don't really know yet. If they did and it didn't work, so they arrived at this His-and-Hers arrangement for the sake of the show, well all right. It's still immoral, living a lie like that just to continue the gravy train. But at least they tried.

However, if Jon just out of the blue started his nocturnal beaver-hunting, and all these recent revelations were news to Kate? No. No spouse deserves to be treated so poorly.

Kate is awful, but so is Jon. At least Kate attempted to be an adult; Jon never wanted to leave his teens, and so he never did. JMHO.

Just end the show. TLC. Those poor children will be going through tremendous upheaval. The one thing I do NOT want to see is trips to marriage counselors or child therapists! Do NOT put that painful personal stuff on public view, Gosselins.

But what I think is going to happen, now that the truth is out, is Jon's refusal to do the show because he does want the new gf and he wants to be open about it. Is it possible Kate would continue the show w/o Jon? I bet she'd be willing!

Maggie said...

A while ago, someone said that Jon had bought his girlfriend a Prada handbag. I will be interested to see if that was the gift.

Oh brother.

PattyWithNoPity said...

HaHaHAHAHHaaaa. That's all she wrote!

Jane in California said...

OH MY HOLY HECK!

Sad but true, family members will sometimes spill your most intimate secrets just to get their 15 minutes. Or maybe this guy really thinks it's okay to talk to a reporter about his own sister's personal life, in specific and embarrassing detail!

This show simply cannot continue. More and more is coming out. If this is true, and my gossip antennae is leaning more toward "true" than "false," that means Jon is indeed a complete tool and even bigger idiot.

It would also explain the barely restrained rage we see in Kate's behavior lately. To her, Jon is single-handedly ruining their lovely gravy train! I can also understand why she is running off to do book signings, etc. as much as she can, probably just to stop herself from strangling his scrawny neck.

Unfortunately, their mutual greed made them make yet another bad decision -- "let's pretend everything is all right, and we're still married and together. No one has to find out and we can still make big money doing this show." Liars, the both of them. Money grubbing liars.

I feel sorry for any spouse or partner who has been cheated on. I've been in those shoes and it's truly awful. But there is a decent way to handle it, and then there is the Gosselin way, which is to keep churning the money machine as long as you can.

Christians, my aunt Fanny!

My heart aches for those poor kids. They deserve so much better than Jon and Kate. I just hope and pray that Kevin and Jody can somehow be part of their lives, because those two really embody true love and mature, nurturing role models.

laura weiss said...

Never before have I hated being right so much.

Aeris said...

ClevelandRocks said...

J&K's relationship has been over for ages. I think they've both moved on and are faking it for the camera. Think about it. If Kate was that upset, she wouldn't continue to tour. People have cancelled appearances for much less. I think Kate not only knows, she doesn't care. Why no statement from Kate?
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I totally agree with you. I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't "together" during that BS vow renewal last year. I think their goal was to keep the farce up long enough to collect as much money as possible, then split for good. I'm sure Kate is having her own fun, but she or her bodyguard are better at keeping it hidden. My heart breaks for the kids, I can't even type what I imagine they're going through. I really can't see how a Season 5 can happen now. There was a post in General Discussion stating KON is going to make an official statement very soon. I hope they have the decency to confess, there is too much evidence against them that can do irreparable damage to their kids.

As much as the brother was being a pr*ck for coming out with his story, I give him major props for doing something no other family member/friend had the balls to do.

Jane in California said...

Sarah said...
Kate, or producers of the show-- We know you read this! Please get Mady and Cara into counseling! Actually, get all of them into counseling. This is going to scar them forever if they don't get help! Trust me when I say this! If any of you really care about these innocent children, that didn't ask for any of this, you will do whatever it takes to get them help!Sadly, I doubt any such real help will be provided to the children. TLC has already demonstrated that what they care about is producing a show that will fool much of the people, enough of the time. Long enough to keep those advertiser dollars coming in. That's all, and I mean, THE ONLY THING, that TLC cares about, not the kids' well being.

We already know what Kate cares about most - herself. The kids are going to have to fend for themselves as best they can. I hope that at least they have each other, although Kate's with favortism and mean spiritedness, she'll probably continually try to undermine even that little bit of comfort.

And Jon? He'll wander off in search of some woman, any woman with long blond hair, who will take his manchild self in, go drinking and partying with him, and bolster his aging libido. "Kids? Hey, I only wanted two - let Kate deal with them! I got peeps I need to hang with! Yo!"

Jane in California said...

Hilary said...
Do you think this is all a publicity stunt for Season 5 and upcoming books?Why do people think these sordid events would be a publicity stunt? For a family show? My short answer is NO. TLC and J&K are not morally upstanding, but I think that at least TLC and Kate understand the concept of the appeal of a family show.

This is not The Osbournes, for pete's sake, or My Fair Brady.

So, no I don't think it's a publicity stunt. I never did, even with the earlier rumors. You can tell that things have not been good between J&K for quite a long time.

Lola said...

I really don't understand how someone can blame Kate for Jon cheating. I think she's a pretty awful person, but there's never an excuse to cheat. If you want to be with someone else you end your marriage. Of course Jon wouldn't leave though because that would mean the end of the TV show and all that money coming in. But it would be much better for the kids if dad were dating after him and mom divorced, and not sneaking around. I guess it shouldn't surprise me that nobody is thinking about the kids.

I feel so badly for those children. Their parents are really messing up their lives, and really don't seem to care that they're doing so.

Mikemom said...

Will someone from TLC please pull the plug on this show.....enough, is enough, if the stories are true than all are affected. Kate wont stop by herself she likes the attention she gets, probably because she doesnt get it at home. Jon is running away from all problems. And the kids, if the parents break up they need the time and space to adjust. NO more camera's, my heart is breaking for the kids

LAP said...

Kate is awful, but so is Jon. At least Kate attempted to be an adult; Jon never wanted to leave his teens, and so he never did. JMHO.

Just end the show. TLC. Those poor children will be going through tremendous upheaval. The one thing I do NOT want to see is trips to marriage counselors or child therapists! Do NOT put that painful personal stuff on public view, Gosselins.

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ITA 100%! J&K brought this upon themselves. They wanted thier lives to be on tape and filmed. They wanted America to look in their windown and see how they run thier family.

What really breaks my heart with this new story breking out are for Mady and Cara. Those two girls are going to have to go to school tomorrow and hear all about this because you know other parents are talking about it and kids will hear.

I wonder if Kate is home to comfort them or is the not-a-nanny doing this job? Is Jon doing this job or just planning on going out and getting laid this entire time?

I know my divorce was rough (and it wasn't even public) and I really feel for the kids.

Jon and Kate are not getting any type of pity from me on this situation though.

Babs said...

Jon is probably thinking - you want camera's around Kate, I will show you camera's around and what they can catch...............No more season 5 for me! You wont let me speak my mind so my actions will speak louder than words!!!!!!

Snerk said...

Jon plainly told Kate he didn't want to do season 5. Kate just as plainly ignored him and basically said she didn't care and she was going after what she wanted with the TV show, book tours, and speaking gigs. When lives diverge and your partner refuses to listen, stuff happens.

highondegrassi said...

I think both of them are fools, but I really don't blame Jon for what he's doing. Kate is a nasty shrew and a horrible person. It's really time for their families to step in and save those children. Neither one of them is fit to be a parent. It's disgusting how they're ruining the lives of 8 innocent children.

Taryn said...

Oh man, I hope that Mady and Cara are being homeschooled. Can you imagine the torture they must be going through if they do go to regular school? Private or not, kids are kids and they can be brutal and cruel.

I used to get annoyed by Mady but now I really empathize with her. This poor kid is probably ready to explode like a volcano but what can she do? She's completely helpless. But when those teenage hormones kick in...look out, Kate! You will have met your match.

As for this brother's story, I don't know if I believe it. It's 50/50 with me. I'm sure US Weekly pays a good buck for a sensationalist story like this one.

Martina said...

Personally, I don't think Jon is 'cheating behind Kate's back'. I think they are separated and have been for a while now.

I feel that either on a conscious or subconscious level he started behaving an a manner that would cause this to come to light- because he wants out.

Really, it wouldn't be the first time J&K, along with TLC has lied to their viewers. Look how long they were actually living in the big house secretly before they revealed it.

I find it ironic that Jon was exposed by someone who sold out their own sister out for a few lousy bucks given that he and Kate have been doing that to their children for a while now.

Debbie said...

I believe it's true that Jon is having an affair, but I don't think that was him in the video. I also think that Kate has known about it. She doesnt say anything because it would interfere with her traveling and her "career" of a signing book celebrity! Who know's what else she does besides sign books when she is away? Plus she doesn't want to lose the show.
Poor John. I know it's not right what he did and he does make the final choice, but Kate has him so beat down that Im not surprised. As far as the kid's, I feel Jon and Kate will still be very much in their lives equally should they split. Maybe it wont be as hard on them.

alana said...

Some random thoughts:

I hope Take isn't awarded the "victim" role in this sham.

We know who the true victims are; all eight of them.

I remember seeing comments from "ana" to Yawn on the first Utah blog, saying "Can't wait to see you in February...

Hopefully, a credible media source will receive the go ahead to chronicle the truth of the comings and goings (mostly goings) of the last six months of KON's con.

I don't understand the apparent fear of those who have first hand knowledge of so many KON LIES, so much hurtful behaviour, yet won't come forward. Yes, it's honorable to look out for the children, to refuse slinging mud, to stand steadfast against the rumour mongers but come on! The "we must think of the children" ship sailed many many months ago. IMO, those close to the children, including former family and "friends" are simply being selfish. The reason they keep their lips zipped has nothing to do with the children; it's the hope that Hate will one day offer her gratitude for their undying loyalty.
Now, please don't verbally attack me, GWoPers, but I'm including their possible hope of monetary thank yous.
However, if Take's "gratitude" is their motivation, they're sorely mistaken. She has never been, nor will ever be, grateful or gracious for any thing to any one. Not going to happen - NEVER!
Under the guise of "protecting the children", they have allowed precious crucial time to slip away. Time that they can't ever retrieve; time that those EIGHT EXPLOITED CHILDREN can't ever get back.
Whatever their "reasons" (excuses) for remaining silent, they are unforgivably selfish, if you ask me.

Katatonic said...

HAHAHAHAHAAAHHHAAAAA *wipes tears from eyes*

This is such an ironic lesson no? She is naive isn't she? So they met by sending each other 3 dollar shots? HAHAHAHA! I don't think Kate can really play the martyr, because there are just too many seasons backing up her shrew-ness...Give me a break with the Poor Kate doesn't deserve this. She is just better at "hiding/lying" about what she is doing.

alana said...

HannaBelleLechter said:

"...no spouse [Take] deserves to be treated so poorly."

Do you mean "poorly" like the way Hate treats Yawn?

I find it ironic that we at GWoP have tried our best for so long to "get someone to do something" for these children and get this sham of a show off the air. What actually happens? KON's own selfish greedy self-serving behaviour accomplishes what we could not!

Dooney said...

I think John's F-you to Kate is even bigger than no-more-season-5-for-you. His escapades may thoroughly poison the well for any future gigs Kate is hoping to procure. And he may be intentionally doing this.

Kate's PR basis is "family". Will Zondervan, Disney, sponsors such as P&G, and anyone else spinning the "family" angle want them? I don't think so. "Tacky" and "sordid" are two words now being associated with J&K. TLC may wish to continue with either or both in some form but if they can't line up enough sponsors, it's over.

In any event, it's hard to imagine Kate doing a talk show when she can't even force herself to schmooze with her fans at book signings or spend the allotted time waiting for them to arrive!

Nomes said...

Anonymous Jane in California said...
Why do people think these sordid events would be a publicity stunt?
I guess there would be so many who would hate to think that it is, and normally (ie, if it happened to anyone but Kon) it wouldn't even cross my mind! But a cynical part of me thinks that just maybe this is... but not on the part of Jon - perhaps Kate is behind it!

Let me explain.. Although Kate is always away, she may have someone(s) checking up on Jon. She may have known all along about this affair, and therefore decided to use it to her advantage - hence the first photos being released, and now this confirmation is just icing on the cake for her.

What better way to get even more famous? And what better way to make her look like a better person to the public?

If she wanted to, she could tell some story about how Jon has always cheated and that's why she has been such a bitch all the time - there's many ways for her to spin this to her advantage and make sure she comes out smelling like a rose. Also, considering her books, what will this do to the sales? How many sheeple would buy them now, to show support to Kate, making sure 'the children and her secure their future'? Sure, maybe TLC will pull the plug on the show before, during or after S5, but those books are hers (ELF plus the new cookbook coming out) and you bet the sheeple know that.

I dunno, maybe it's not a publicity stunt at all, and just bad (or good maybe, if Jon's behind it and wants out of the show) luck, but if Kate could think of a way to make money off her children all those years ago by shopping around a home video, then her pulling a stunt like this wouldn't surprise me at all...

Kris said...

The gig is over.

I can't imagine that their publisher will keep them, nor can I imagine that there will be a season 6 of The Train Wreck.

Shame on you Jon and Kate. You sold out your children for the almighty dollar.

Those poor kids.

I could sit and cry for them.

Sarah said...

I just want to say that I in no way think that Jon was right for cheating. All I meant was that right or not, a lot of the time when men aren't getting their needs met, they stray. Is Jon in the wrong? Totally! Is this Kate's fault? No. Though I could totally see Jon's reasoning (if indeed he was straying, and they weren't already seperated). I mean, Kate basically told him "F U and your feelings" when talking about season 5. I think if Jon really was/is cheating, that he was saying it right back to her.

What hurts my heart the most, is that as they renewed their vows, they kept saying they wanted their kids to know that they would be together forever. I don't think the Tups understood, but Mady and Cara did. Why make a promise you don't know if you'll be able to keep? This renewal was less then a year ago... They couldn't even make their promise last for a year? All the while Kate is out giving mommy/wife of the year advice at churches? What Pastor in their right mind would ask for their advice??

Ravello said...

I think Jon and Kate had an agreement for an "open marriage". She was desperate to keep up appearances to keep the cash cow rolling. I fully expect embarassing stories to come out about Kate as well.
Once again, the welfare of their kids was not uppermost in their minds. It was all about fame, fortune, living the high life while 8 kids were home alone with nannies.
Jon's father is rolling in his grave and heaven only knows what Kate's family thinks.

JJ said...

I can't believe they quoted his every "um" and "like". I don't know if that's supposed to make him sound more legit or what. Ridiculous.

The whole thing is not a publicity stunt. Jon is not smart enough to "take Kate down" by being public with this affair -if what he cried about was true, that he hates being "famous" and known, he wouldn't have wanted this to publicly get out. We already know he's not the sharpest tool in the shed, so it's not unbelievable for him to have screwed up and had it get caught on tape.

Also, I STILL don't buy that he didn't want to do season 5. If he and Kate separated officially or emotionally or whatever long ago, then she wouldn't have the power over him to make him sign the contract. Because it would take both of them to renew it. He was embarrassed that he got caught the first time and blamed it on the show. He makes his own choices - signing contracts, having affairs.

And it still never ceases to amaze me that some people will use anything to try and turn it on Kate somehow. By either saying she had it coming for the way she treated him, or that she's probably doing the same, or whatever. Or even saying that Babe is a horrible person for doing this. What's with the women hate? Jon could have told her anything, true or not, like "we are separated, it's okay". Jon is the "skank" here. The older, supposed to be more wise, intelligent, moral person. Her brother might be right - she may be naive and being taken advantage of. Blame the married man, not the mistress IMO. She's not entirely innocent, no, but I don't think she deserves the amount of lashings she's been getting.

Right now, all of this should be on Jon. Kate and his "agreement" that many claim they have is not public. Their "separation" is not known. We have photos of Jon from which to draw our own conclusions yet we are still reaching to make up more elaborate schemes and shift or remove blame?

Katie O said...

I really believe that if these allegations were not true, if Jon really wasn't having an affair and he and Kate were still together, there would be updates to their website, multiple family outings just around town, and J&K would be making themselves very much "out there" in the public eye proving their point to everyone that everything really was "okay." Refusing to really truly address it, to have Kate and the 23 year-old in the same room with Kate saying "Yes, we are friends," is just making the rumor mill turn more. The fact that Kate has been COMPLETELY silent on this is troubling. Someone said in a comment that an "announcement" will be made shortly. Has anyone heard anything yet?

met said...

There they are! Those stupid white plastic chairs! I don't even get the picture! The last time I tanned in the grass I was 15. (before the invention of tanning beds, spray tans etc) What's with the costco table...have these people ever heard of patio furniture. For that matter ... a backyard?

The brother is in it for the money (bet he set up the original photos....hell maybe they are both in on it...) I'm thinking 6 figures with all these articles.

If Jon had half a brain he could of done this very discreetly. (not that I approve) Then again if he had a brain at all, he would of NOT let her treat him like a child....though it seems like he is.

pinkdiamond611 said...

They are still legally married. There is no excuse for Jane's behavior.

Ms.Peach said...

Wonder if Kate will be on the Today Show tomorrow. The brother is an attention hog, but the truth needs to come out.

Jon just needs to be a man and get a divorce. He can share custody and since Kate is the bread winner, alimony or child support would be fairly distributed.

The reason this is making all the gossip tabloids is that this family has lied----about their marriage, their money, etc. This could be the biggest sham ever pulled on the television viewing audience. So what's next? A made for TV movie? You bet.

Sarah said...

I think this is a reminder of the fact that famalies break up everyday. It's a sad and unfortunate reality.

I would like to hope there is no truth to the rumors and gossip.

Either way this is a difficult time for them. Have none of you been involved in similar personal struggles?

It is very sad that everyone today seems to have lost their focus. Family comes first!

Reading news said...

Trudy said...
"HannaBelle, don't feel too sorry for Kate. She's been "doing her own thing" only we don't have pictures all over the internet. This isn't a one-sided deal. They separated and each is going his or her own way. Jon didn't end the marriage with an affair. The marriage ended all but legally awhile back."

I think the marriage ended back in the fall with the sudden exit from Elizabethtown. The move to all the acres made it a litle easier to live separate lives with no neighbors to witness what was going on. I think the families knew this was going on and that is why Jodi's sister suddenly stopped writing on her own site and on here. I also think the real culprit in this situation might be HRH. I think Jon's latest bar hopping is his way of paying her back.

holidayinn said...

I'm no psychiatrist nor do I play one on tv, but.... sometimes people act out in similar ways to get out of something, not just marriage, but it could be the show. Jon is not stupid, he had to contemplate his actions and said just forget it.. I'm doing it anyway.. He just wanted the j&K thing to stop.

Allicat said...

I do not believe that Jon is any different than Kate. I believe they both have another person in their life, however, Jon wanted to get caught and let the public know what is happening. He is done, we all know he wanted to be done and this is his way of letting us know.

But, I don't know how two adults and I use that term lightly, can allow their children to be a part of this mess. Its one thing to completely ruin their lives by having them on a reality TV show, but for the sake of the children, keep the issues hidden. These poor kids don't stand a chance to having any type of a normal life.

Dr. Phil has intervened in other instances and I think some professional needs to do the same to protect these children. They didn't ask for this. They certainly didn't ask for their parents to be complete idiots as we see that happening now with all this negative publicity.

The show is over. Season 5 will not be successful without Jon. The sheeple will see the truth and hopefully hear the truth soon.

4girlsoneboy said...

alana said...
HannaBelleLechter said:

"...no spouse [Take] deserves to be treated so poorly."

Do you mean "poorly" like the way Hate treats Yawn?


I think Kate has shown what a shrew she really is. If all of this is going on and she would have to be aware of it with all of the publicity lately, what in the name of God is she doing traveling around with her stupid book signings? Wouldn't you be home comforting your children or, in the case of most mothers, taking comfort from the presence of your kids. Just once, she better spend a little time in that mansion - the one that she said "was all mine".

HolidayInn said...

I also smell "lifetime" movie of the week.
I also don't think Kate was EVER naive. I think she and jon have been separated for sometime. They have to finish agreements and arrangements. Shame on TLC for destroying them. We all tried to warn them the sponsors and TLC.
Shame Shame, TLC and the petty Gosselin lovers who posted their kids pictures all over their web-sites. What kind of an adult would put other peoples little children all over their website. It's child voyuerism. Nasty!! Talking about the show is one thing, but knowing every intimate detail about them is just plain creepy. YUck Yuck!!

Casey and Smudge said...

So, where are the denial statements from Jon and Kate? I'm sure they can spin this one up nicely for the fans.
They've been morally corrupt since day one - Kate with her lying and manipulating (maybe we'll hear from the girlfriend that Jon dumped for Kate that October in 1997) and Jon with his laziness and proposed marketing scheme for his children. Not to mention the blatant greed and lack of appreciation show weekly. And so the behaviour escalates.
The source of the allegations is a little surprising. Who hooks up with dear brother in the next room? Ew?! At 23, I'd have been looking for a well-educated, ambitious, unmarried, attractive inside and out, fertile and dedicated man! Someone without 8 children and a crazy wife who'd launch a smear campaign on my teaching career. And call me the jealous type, but I wouldn't be able to stand sneaking around only to watch him on national television being married to someone else!
I wanted Kate taken down a notch with her whole supermom persona - get the children off the air, maybe some negative book reviews, a failed talk show, whatever. But this is just disgusting. They should have walked away when they were on top.

WorkerBee said...

My heart breaks for that family that started out in that first house, that mom that had that timid little voice and looked so lovingly at her husband and children. That family is still there, hidden under plastic surgery, spray tans, hairplugs and fake teeth. If they climb out from all that 'crap' that has piled up on their family and found themselves again and their love within the walls of their home, maybe they can work thru everything and keep their family intact. They have 8 beautiful little children that they owe that to. They need to find a way to forgive each other and give their children the lives they promised, which was to keep their family together.

I wonder if their house has sold? Move back into that house, have Jon get a job and have Kate stay home and mother her children.

It is unreal what fame and money have done to that once-sweet little family. :-(

SandrainCanada said...

The Toronto Star published a story today about Jon's escapades. They even mention this website.

http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/article/629573

Momom said...

Well this is just a big ugly mess. I do not think that this is a publicity stunt. For years Kate has been calling the shots and controlling everything and everyone in that house. Jon has been emasculated to the point that he probably doesn't know who he is anymore. He has been pushed into this life that he doesn't seem to have wanted at all, from the 8 kids to being a public figure. From all appearances he has no friends or close family members that he hangs out with anymore. He no longer has a job to give him any self worth. His wife belittles him for things like not using coupons. Sadly I think Jon is using the car, the young friends, the "girlfriend" to build up his self worth.
I think Kate abandoned the family and started doing her own thing. I don't know if she has something going on with Mr. Gray or not but something seems off there. Neither of them are present in that marriage. Hopefully at least Jon is still present in the kids day to day lives. They need some stability while their Mom is traipsing around the country signing books with her "handler".

Dor said...

HannaBelleLechter - I couldn't have put my thoughts better than you did! What you said is exactly how I feel about the situation. I feel bad for those kids.

I will say it again - I wish Aunt Jodi & Uncle Kevin would step in. Maybe Kate will get off her pedestal and allow these two loving people back into the kids life to help them through a very difficult time.

It will be interesting to see the PR damage control.

KiSSy said...

Snerk said...
I saw where one of the other places was blaming "bloggers" again for Maddy and Cara's issues. I have to say again, what is on the blogs is nothing to what the parents have done to those children.


Unless the kids read the blogs, this couldn't possibly affect them. If the kids have issues, it's because their parents have created a world that is some completely abnormal for them to live in. I have said before, they are not characters in a story...those kids are real children who need normalcy. Believe what you want, but there is a warped reality that "tv kids" live in. It is next to impossible for anyone, especially a child, to NOT want to adjust their behavior when the camera is on. We will never know how much damage the cameras have done to these kids, because they have never had a chance to just BE kids.

Reality TV isn't.



And I think too that whether they are married or not, Jon is getting "his" in the end. I think he's sick to death of the cameras, of Kate berating him, of the constant control and lack of privacy. He is definitely sending Kate and her faux career down the toilet. And I bet he's laughing now as he contemplates writing his tell all book.

BarbBe53 said...

With a brother like that who needs enemies. Is it that warm in April to sunbathe in Pennsylvania? I know in Ohio it isn't. Though we did have a couple of 80 degree days. I think Jon forgot about all the new technology like cell phones.... come on. This couple need to come out and tell the truth. TLC needs to pull the plug on Season 5. Kate needs to come back home and be with her kids. Jon needs to live in the garage apartment and stay out of bars. I just hate to see a family disinegrate on television. Jon and Kate are so selfish they don't even think about the children. I remember Mady's face when Hannah told the cameras that Daddy was at his mother's house she looked like Oh my God... should that have come out. Again, KATE GO HOME TO YOUR CHILDREN. KATE AND JON TELL THE TRUTH FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE. JON GROW UP.

Why r they still 2gether? said...

I think the reason Kate doesn't care what Jon does is because they are no longer a couple.
If they were still together-
there is no way Jon would put up
with Kate being gone all the time
or Kate put up with Jon and his
"friendship"-
TLC is no longer featuring them
in their commercials- they now
say- table for 12- bringing
back family on TLC?!?!?
Damage control at its best.

KiSSy said...

I'm sure the lines are burning between Kate and Jon and their PR team. Damage (out of) control is going to be a bear with this one.

My advice would be to halt all media and public events, regroup, get into counseling, seek financial advice for retirement investing and then slip quietly into oblivion.

No Day But Today said...

I think her brother is a piece of work. First of all, why would he dirty her laundry?? It's none of his business. And the way he talks about listening to his sister having sex is just beyond me. He's just like rest of the public who wants to get his 15 minutes of fame by outing his sister. Whether or not there is any truth to his story, I personally don't blame Jon. You can only expect somebody to take so much abuse in a relationship. I don't condone cheating, but I have been more than disappointed (and that's putting it VERY lightly) with Kate. Time for them to separate. That way, at least the kids will have a chance of growing up normal like the rest of the families in America with divorced parents.

Joanne said...

Not sure how reliable this info is in US magazine. They will spin anything to make a buck.
I do think Jon and Kates marriage is on the rocks, and I not surprised in the least. I am just not sure where this story fits in and if its accurate or not. I dont feel bad for Kate. If she had any respect for her husband she would not totally shame and embarrass him constantly like he is her servant. The guy will only take so much....
The article said the pic was at his family's house, so it could be by his moms house and not the konpound.
Its very sad that their children are being raised by strangers. It should be the parents who nurture them especially at such young and impressionable ages.
TLC, Sponsors and anyone who feeds into this families greed, should be ashamed of themselves.

Nikki said...

Debbie said...
I believe it's true that Jon is having an affair, but I don't think that was him in the video...... I think it is John in the video. The guy in the video walks just like John, and John always puts his hands in his pocket when he walks. It's time for this show to go off the air, even the older episodes. This is the kind of mess I see on "The Yound and the Restless." John, if you're reading this, can't you at least keep it zipped up for your children's sake. This must be horrible for them. God bless those kids. They dont deserve this.

BigLil said...

He brought his skank to his own house while Kate was gone?! With the children there? That isn't just cheating...that is the biggest F U possible to give to a spouse. That is unadulterated rage. What a mess. Those poor kids. I sure hope Aunt Jodi is back in their lives to help them.

anotherPAmom said...

Sorry, I had also put this on free discussion before I realized this heading was here- JON AND KATE, THIS IS A LOUSY BIRTHDAY PRESENT FOR YOUR SEXTUPLETS!!! I really feel for the kids- can't believe the parents are subjecting them to this! Do you think Kate will still keep her media appearances this week? And will any of the hosts be brave enough to ask about being the US cover feature two weeks in a row?

Dor said...

I wonder if now Oprah or Dr. Phil will get involved. If there is a scandal....they are usually the first to get dibs at it.....

Ms.Peach said...

Deanna Hummel is definitely a 3rd grade teacher in the Reading School district, but couldn't find the name of the school. Anyway, my guess is she won't be there next year. School boards do not like controversy. I bet TLC was shocked that her brother spoke out.

I wonder who took the pic of her sunbathing and who's the dude sitting with Jon under the umbrella? Yeah, must be nice to not have a job and stare at your bikini clad girlfriend while the wife's away. Like Jason Hummel said, "Ick. Nast."

Also, will the other four who confirmed the affair speak out? I say with five people confirming it, it's got to be true.

And that video---that was so Jon with his bald spot. I know the brother got money for the story, but he, like his sister, are getting their 15 minutes of fame. I don't understand bashing the brother, though. Someone, whether him or not, was bound to tell the truth. Don't punish the messenger, he's done a favor and this sham will soon be over.

Tracy said...

Yes it takes two to destroy a marriage, but it only takes one to end it. We can't entirely blame Kate for this. Jon is the one that went out, had an affair and got caught.

And it's too bad the two of them couldn't have tried to fix their problems before this happened.

It's too bad those poor children now have to go through this. I think this is probably worse for them than being on TV.

This will be ugly - "If" a divorce happens, I don't see Kate keeping mum about Jon and speaking her mind freely about what an arse he was, etc etc right in ear shot of the kids. That's a big no-no.

So, on top of hearing their mom beyotch and whine at home and in the media and on the show - they will hear this at school as well.

I was an unfamous child of unfamous parents who went through a nasty divorce and it was not pretty - and because of actions of my father, it was on the news.. so I dealt with it at home and at school. There was no escape from this.

We need to really send out prayers to the children and pray that they have an escape, someone they trust to talk too. They are the real casualties of all of this.

WorkerBee said...

I can't find any mention of Kate being on Larry King tonight or tomorrow.

Tonight is Elizabeth Hasselbeck and tomorrow is Whoopi Goldberg.

I'm guessing Kate cancelled?

PAmama said...

No joke, Kate needs to get tested. Lord knows this may not be the first girl he has been with while married! Sad.

***********************
I doubt she's been with him in a long long long time.

organizedblogroll said...

Lordy Be!! This ought to put the KEEBOSH on the book tour, and we may find Jon's wee wee somewhere in the field, a la Lorena Bobbitt.

SoSorry said...

It's kind of funny because Kate "hated" the camera's being there in the beginning and basically led to the fact that she is very introverted whereas Jon was more extroverted and didn't mind the attention. Flash forward to now and it is the complete opposite. Kate like the lavish lifestyle and Jon is just tired of her.

AnneMarie said...

Now that this story has broken free, I feel that many other people are going to finally feel free to speak up on the KON empire, people are going to say- well it's all coming out, why not me too- get in on the media paying for juice train - past nannys, field trip employees, slighted fans, FAMILY. This is the crack in the dam, and the floodgates are wide open.

Kate maybe able to spin the put upon, slighted wife at first, but NOT for long.

Something was UP with these two since before the fake "look at us - we'll be together forever" wedding renewal.

Caroline said...

Don't blame the 23 yr old's brother. He just got sick of seeing this user be so blatantly open with his sister.

Wow, a teacher. Her respect level in the class just plummeted.

If he continues this behavior after this slap in the face, he's more of a loser than we thought.

Calling Dr. Phil: Kate needs more than a year of Maid Service!!

OriginalThoughts said...

I have a few thoughts on this
I think that in reality, in Kates own words to paraphrase her in the LHJournal interview, he had a girlfriend and she was gone the next day. So, she knew it was easy to get his attention away from one he was with.
Secondly, I think in some ways if Kate saw it coming, that she will play along about being the injured lamb and milk it for all its worth with any bit of publicity she can get paid for. Sadly, I can see them even trying the we have "realized our sins" and trying to keep and increase their "Christian" audience.
Having been a woman cheated on, I do know how horrible it feels. But watching her talk to him the way she does, there hasnt been a lot of respect there for a lonnnnng time. Sad, cause they used to seem playful until the money started rolling it.
Its a shame for the kids involved, because they are the ones that will carry baggage from it.

LisaNH said...

With all this "affair" stuff all over the media about Jon, I'm really beginning to think that he and Kate have been seperated for a while and are putting on an act of being married for the show. If they have seperated it would explain about why she's gone so much and why he is out and partying. Maybe it's awkward for them to be in the same house?

If they are still "together", then I would have to say, I don't agree with cheating but I also can see why Jon would cheat on Kate. Lets face it, the woman is a nightmare to be married to.

However, Jon shouldn't be so blatent about it either. He has 2 daughters in school and six other children about to enter school. They are the true victims in all this bad publicity. I can just imagine how the other school kids are probably making their lives miserable.

If Kon are splitting up then just do it and let the kids have their lives back.

AnneMarie said...

Oh search mavens!! Somewhere on this blog (not this thread), there is a comment from someone about a Canadian radio show host that said that soon America will learn that a cuurently popular TV family isn't all that they appear. It was hinting that the KON were not together then, and just playing family for the cameras.


This was probably two months ago or more.
Anyone?

Miss Lissa said...

Wow, that really sucks for those kids.

Was fame and fortune worth it, Jon & Kate?

Anonymomma said...

I think Kate leaked the pics. How else were those front lawn pics taken? My guess is it was staff. I think Kate 'leaked' this story for empathy. She knows this ship is sinking and fast. Her only hope is sympathy from the public as the victim. Oh poor her. Jon cheated. What will she do as a single mom? Can she manage on her own?

Publicty stunt? Yes. But not by the both of them. I also think Jon may have felt lke, hey you want press and cameras? Here you go! ANd I think Kate figured she'd take him down for it.

AnneMarie said...

OH, and another thought for the doubters out there. IF this all WASN"T going on, now that it has hit the MASS media, and not just the online scene, don't you THINK that KON would be shouting from every rooftop that it wasn't true?

What a crappy gift for a kid's 5th b-day.

Beejcctx said...

Folks, as much as we hate this whole thing, when you get on the "main" websites of all these magazines - remember to let the rabble ramble on about how horrid Kate is - push the message of hos these kids have been/are being EXPLOITED by their birth parents.

Sorry J&K do not represent actual parenting to me - just the sperm and egg donors now. Those poor poor kids.

Va Mom said...

Well lets hope that this will put an end to the tv show and that some caring people will get help for the children. I don't feel a bit sorry for Jon and Kate. They deserve this but I do feel for the children.

Mommy in PA said...

Kate's a real b**ch but nobody deserves this kind of behavior. Then again, maybe she's getting some on the road, and Jon is just getting back at her with his affair....

However it is, I can only imagine how badly impacted the kids will be. Especially Mady & Cara to be in school & probably hear their classmates talking about things that showed up in the tabloids. Even school can't be an escape from all that is going on at home. And the little ones will be in the same boat come September when they go to Kindergarten. They are all going to need some serious therapy.

And then there's Season 5.... How are they going to pull that off with all this going on? How can they expect to keep hiding everything? What's going on with Jon & Kate is more public now, so how can they possibly keep the emotional state of the kids off the camera now??

I wonder what the sheeple will say now.....

SadfromMI said...

Regardless of what you think of J&K, or the speculations you've made on this blog...I think we all can agree that this is a very sad time for both of them.

Va Mom said...

I wonder if Kate has a subscription to US magazine? That is going to be some good reading today!!!

kelly s said...

One question- WHO THE HELL IS WATCHING THIER KIDS DURING THIS HIGH SCHOOL DRAMA? Kate is out on book tours while he is out all night? I am tired of these lies these people tell.

zoey said...

in the video of jon walking to the car, you can hear the camera man whisper "come on you bit**"
so, he has been waiting a long time to take this video i think =)

Momof2boys said...

My heart breaks for those kids...

OriginalThoughts said...

Star magazine cover asks:

Did Kate cheat first? anyone have more on this?

Siliconmom said...

Kate will continue on with "Kate + 8" all about how she manages as a single mother.

Just Wondering About It said...

I wonder if Jon's "friend" tells him he breathes too loud, like Kate does.

jonandkatewho? said...

If this is TLC's top show, I would not expect them to cancel the show because of the recent events.

I think they will go on with the show as before and just not address anything. I really do. They are not going to dump the show because more people will tune in now to see if anything is said. But it won't be, most likely.

If the two split, there won't be a show. What could they possibly use? Kate is gone all of the time, and with Jon gone from the house or divorced from Kate, there just would not be any premise anymore. What are they going to show? The non-nanny taking care of the kids and Kate on the road doing book signings? That is the only way I see the show ending before the coming season.

Just my opinion.

And I still think Jon is an alcoholic. It's all very sad, and though I don't like these two people and the way they have exploited the kids, I would never wish this kind of pain and distress upon anybody, especially those kids.

Table4Five said...

This makes me so sad. If they do separate/divorce, those poor kids will get even less attention. They truly are the innocent victims in all of this. They just want their Mommy and Daddy and as much love as they can get. I hope someone, a family friend, anyone, will take an interest and give these kids some attention.

Wendigo said...

Jon and Kate: it isn't too late to save your family! End the show and get major therapy for everyone. TLC should be ashamed of themselves for ruining a once-happy family.

Blue_skies said...

Is Kate still supposed to be on the Today show tomorrow May 7?

Bonnie Hunt Show said...

Bonnie Hunt just talked about the scandal-had copy of last week's US. She kind of sided with Kate, but also said she wasn't sure if she should have enven brought the story up as she didn't want to play into it. Asked the audience if they thought it proper Jon hanging out with friends of the opposite sex at 11pm when the wife was out of town.

Married for Life & Proud Of It said...

Sarah said...
"I think this is a reminder of the fact that famalies break up everyday. It's a sad and unfortunate reality.
Have none of you been involved in similar personal struggles?".

Actually, Sarah, no.

I've been married 10 years, have children, and have NEVER spoken to my husband like Kate...NEVER been out to a bar at 2am....NEVER been filmed leaving someone else's house while spouse is out of town...NEVER had a member of the opposite sex sunbathing on my lawn.

You get the picture.

No "similar struggles" here.

Grownups work out any problems they have. They don't go running outside the marriage out of vindictive selfish behavior. Especially when children are involved.

Maybe if people took their marriage vows more seriously, there wouldn't be "similar struggles".

KiSSy said...

I know this is going to sound very cruel, but I don't understand the idea of not "deserving" to be cheated on.

People don't deserve things like physical abuse, to be robbed, laid off, etc. These are things that a person has no control over.

But Kate DID have control over her actions (belittling Jon, pushing him for kids when he was hesitant, humiliating him on national tv, etc.) and therefore has laid a foundation for the ruination of her relationship with Jon. And with her attitude about continuing the show and seemingly forcing Jon's hand for Season 5, distancing herself from the family for her "tour" and putting on her Diva-tude, she all but sealed the fate of their marriage. Jon didn't appear to want these things, but she insisted.

What does a wife who verbally abuses and wields this much control over her husband "deserve" actually?

I can say that Jon at least deserved to be able to walk away from Season 5, but with the premiere coming, it would appear he couldn't even do that. I can only imagine he feels very trapped. A pawn in Kate's attempt to "have it all".

So...maybe she didn't get what she "deserved" with Jon's alleged cheating, but she certainly is getting what everyone else could see coming.

Tess H. said...

SandrainCanada said...
The Toronto Star published a story today about Jon's escapades. They even mention this website.

http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/article/629573


I read the story. The reporter gets it and luckily the newspaper published it. Now why can't the US media use their brains and research and question things rather than just promote the latest 'hot' topic? There are a few good reporters and media groups out there; the rest are a disgrace.

about time said...

Well what did she expect?? I am on Jon's side in this one. And in court, let the judge see how much she is gone from her children....sure, she will say it's in order for her to make a living...even better! Now Jon gets the kids AND the alimony AND child support!
What TLC and KON both need to do is address this. Kate needs to get off her Christian high horse, STOP (lying)/speaking at churches. I think the fan base would respect their honesty. Let's face it, having kids puts tremendous strain on a marriage. But Kate is so adament about putting up this fake act. A talk show?? Are you kidding? She needs to start being truthful. She has no problem telling the world that Mady has "issues" or having her kids' potty problems FILMED. Now let's see some footage about the marital issues. Let's talk about struggling to keep a marriage spark alive when there are 8 kids. THEN maybe they will re-earn the respect of the viewers.
p.s. the "other woman" has done nothing wrong, IMO. We have NO idea what Jon told her about the marriage/separation, etc....She should be left OUT of it!

wowowow said...

Ok just watched the video.. Though I am not a huge fan of this show or family, I am not a believer that this is him for a few reasons:

1. you can not even tell if its him or not.

2. Who's car is he walking too? That isnt his car. We all know now that he has a new white sports car so wouldnt that be what he should be walking too?

3. Unless you are trying to have your 15 min of fame...why would you be video taping someone?

Exhausted said...

Two points: first, Kate deserves all the misery life has to offer. What goes around comes around. And second, Jon is pathetic. I don't think of it as his cheating on Kate as I think they've been in a dead marriage forever, but he has cheated on his family. He is so weak that he doesn't have the guts to stop the show, yet he buys a sports car like a brat and is so passive aggressive that he needs to shame his family by being out like a lowlife, caught on film.

If Kate is such a horrible wife and mother (true and true), then he should take the time to be there ten times as much for his children to compensate for what she has deprived them of. He should have told her that he would not agree to the show and that he will not give his permission as one of the parents to have his children's pictures sold in that horrible book.

Those would have been honorable, actions filled with justice. They would have been just what Kate deserved--not being out with a tramp, leaving his kids to fend for themselves.

lilmamaD said...

I don't know guys...when you go to Zondervan's website, they are touting K8's "books" right on the homepage, it's the first thing you see~made my stomach churn. Even with all the bad reviews of ELF and ol' Jon Boy's recent indiscretions exposed, I can't believe they've given her front and center on their website?? I still can't find her book signing schedule on there, it's like they completely wiped it out?

mrst said...

Both parents contributed to this mess they are in. They want, they receive. Consequences???

Where is the remorse? TLC, Jon and Kate and to any of the people allegedly participating in the extra marital affaires. There are 8 children that sadly have to deal with all of this sometime in their life.

KareyKat said...

To the post about the Today show:
I went to record it on my DVR and the program info says that the "Gosselin Family" will appear on tomorrow's episode.

We'll see, I guess...

Exhausted said...

Interesting tidbit: I work in Reading, and my wife just drove by the Konpound about 10 minutes ago. She said there are about 8 cars lined up there--mostly SUVs and also the white sports car and the white van. I wonder what army is mobilizing? PR people coaching them? Friends/family? Movers? Or are those just all the not-helpers who come daily to cook in place of Kate and clean up Jon's hangover vomit?

At first I said to her, I'd love to be a fly on that wall, and then on second thought I said that I wouldn't. It's just sad and depressing. I hope the kids are all at school as they shouldn't have that circus around them. Can't they all just be normal?

AmyC said...

Blue_skies said...
Is Kate still supposed to be on the Today show tomorrow May 7?

According to the "info" on my DVR, yes, she's still scheduled.

DivorcedMomOfThree said...

Getting divorced is sometime the best thing for children. I do not think it is right to have children grow up in a loveless home. Sometime a divorce is the best thing for the kids. Kids are more aware of what is going on. If a divorce happens I am sure Jon and Kate will actually spen more time with there children. If it is your week to have them you are more inclined to stay home and be with your children.

ruthy said...

I really think that there will be a season five. It will be Kate + Eight. They are going to show her as a seperated/divorced mom and her daily struggles to "keep it all together".

Yuck!

RobyninReading said...

Hmmm, I know exactly where the Hummel's live. It's so very easy for me to hang there with my video camera too. I wonder why he didn't have his new car there?

I still can't get over a brother doing this to his sister, unless he is in some weird way trying to help her.

Please, please TLC stop this show! Christians? I think not.

once again, how sad for the kids said...

How sad for the kids. Just the fact that a married guy is leaving a bar at 2am with a female is totally suspicious. If my husband did that, I would be devastated. They can spin it any way they want. But this whole thing just makes me think that everything comes with a price. You can't just go around exploiting your kids and getting rich off of them without consequences. If you have no privacy, the media starts following you around and next thing you know you're on the cover of magazines with your mistress. I'm just glad that this might be the end of the show. Please let this be the end of the show so these children can have a somewhat normal life. Although now they might be living in a broken home. It obviously makes you think about what would've happened if they never would've had this show and gotten so greedy. Maybe they would just be normal, paycheck to paycheck, pizza once a week people. They would be living in a too-small house with hand-me-downs for the kids but much happier either way.

SaNdY said...

I feel extremely sorry for the kids, they did not deserve any of this, it was their misfortune to be stuck with greedy liars for 'parents', if you can even call Jon and Kate parents....
It was clear that this farce of a 'reality' show was going to blow up somehow, someway, (I've watched the show for over a year, and have been reading this blog for about 9 months) it is sad for the kids that it had to be THIS way...so I guess when Kate said at their vow renewal ceremony last year, 'that mommy and daddy will be together forever', she should have added, 'until one or both of us has a affair'...one of the many things I'm wondering about now is the disappearance of the Jen, the original producer and Scott, the original camera man, a few months ago... maybe they left the show voluntarily when things really started to unravel between Jon and Kate...

mybrotherwouldkilljon said...

ok, question, if you were really a concerned brother wouldn't you throw jon out of your home?

I know my brother wouldn't have "listed to us having sex"...he would've kick jon's *ss out of our house.

That is how you protect your sister. Telling a magazine dirty details doesn't help your sister.

I wonder if the two(brother and sister) set this up? How much money are they making off this?

Sukie said...

Jon said it himself that he did not want to do the show anymore - this is obviously his way of getting what he wanted...

Ugh - and the new commercial with Emeril Lagasse is vomit inducing. Why the heck does he need to do a D-list show? Kate actually smacks him in the preview - I wish he would have turned around and thrown some spices in her eyes and yelled Bam!

Back to the tangled web - this stunt by Jon is so transparent - Kate wanted to keep doing the show so bad, saying she looooved it. So, to get his way (like a child) - he decided to very publicly humilate her to the extent that the viewers will be so turned off and the show will get cancelled.

And isn't that what most people wanted anyway?! For the show to be cancelled for the sake of the children?! - too bad its gotta come at the expense of the children psyches and a family split.

karen0101 said...

"Well what did she expect?? I am on Jon's side in this one. And in court, let the judge see how much she is gone from her children....sure, she will say it's in order for her to make a living...even better! Now Jon gets the kids AND the alimony AND child support!"

That would be great if Jon actually stayed home to take care of the kids, but he doesn't seem to like being a SAHD. The last thing these kids need are various potential stepmoms walking in and out of their lives and Jon has made it clear he won't give up his "friends" for anything. It's a mess no matter how you look at it.

dolphinfoxx said...

Although this is all such juicy info we're all receiving, PLEASE DON'T WATCH THE SHOW!! TLC wants more viewers and big ratings. DON'T let all this controversy pull you inot watching. It's not worth it. We all need to remember this as the new season is coming.

Hambone said...

Take note, ladies. You treat your husband like a dog and he WILL find someone else.

While I loathe cheaters, this time I can't say I blame him. She brought this all on herself with her spoiled, military-style personality and public humiliation of Jon.

What will drive me nuts is if she comes out of this as a victim and "Oh poor Kate". No!!!! She brought 99% of this on herself. She needs to suck it up and feel what she was so willing for her kids to feel.

She had no qualms with her children being seen crapping on the potty on national tv, so she should have no qualms having her crappy marriage being seen on national tv.

You reap what you sow, and I hope the money was all worth it.

ROFL said...

Jon has always been a passive-agressive douche bag.

For all the times Kate has put him down on television I really believe this is his pay-back.

I bet Kate wishes she had close relationships with her family now because she is going to need her family more than ever!

I think this is gonna get really nasty.....

Sidney said...

kelly s said...
One question- WHO THE HELL IS WATCHING THIER KIDS DURING THIS HIGH SCHOOL DRAMA? Kate is out on book tours while he is out all night? I am tired of these lies these people tell.

5/06/2009 6:57 AM
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Well, they have paid help for their every need. Neither J nor K would leave these children unattended.

Jon.Worst.Husband.Evah said...

Kate Gosselin to appear on Larry King tonight, CNN.

Maybe she'll talk about it?

Charlie Rose said...

Come on Kate is NOT a victim. She obviously knew this was going on and guess what??? She still choose to continue on with the show. She only cares about herself. I am not saying what Jon did was right, because it isn't. What I am saying is that Kate isn't an innocent bystander in all of this either. Neither one of them are thinking of their children. Instead of running around the country, she should have been home protecting those children.

Teryn said...

Blue_skies said...
Is Kate still supposed to be on the Today show tomorrow May 7?

5/06/2009 7:13 AM

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My Direct TV schedule says, May 7th, Jon & Kate Gosselin.

Didn't know he was suppossed to be on with her.

If they do show up, with all this media frenzy, they should expect the hard questions and no more sugar coated fluff.

Heidi said...

Here is my feelings on the whole thing. First of all, Kate should have canceled her speaking engagements and went home. There is such a term as circling the wagons. You can bet there are probably paparazzi (local or not) hanging around. She should not leave the job of explaining it to the kids to Jon and the NotNanny!
Secondly, Jon has his *lack of* dice in a vice grip. He marries young, has twins right off the bat, his Dad dies, has Tups after that, goes on a show, and his wife gets meaner and meaner. Or she has always been that mean..They just caged it for the first couple of seasons. He does not want to do the show anymore, he wants to be with his wife (who is almost never home) and he is going thru a very early mid-life crisis. He wants out!
I can hear their conversation. Kate will get all the sympathy. Kate will get all the kids. Kate will get all the money. Kate will get the house. And what will Jon get? He will be vilified by ALL the sheeple and press, living in a low rent apartment, paying child support. For 8 kids..even though she would get everything!
This is probably what she said and he was like OMG! I am stuck until these kids graduate from high school. Add to that no affection, no sex, no companionship with his spouse, no friends, no adult family..

It may sound like I am defending him because I am not. I feel that if you want out of your marriage so that you can move on..you should do it that way. Divorce..then move on.
I can see though that she (and TLC) did not give the poor manchild many options.
So he went for it. He did what he wanted and didn't care about the consequences.
He just didn't think about his kids at all. Just him. Just how he was stuck for gosh knows how long.
Even though it is an awful situation, some of you can see what I am saying.
Not condoning cheating at all..just looking at all sides.

WorkerBee said...

They have made a statement:

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2009/05/exclusive-jon-g.html

J&K 2 IDIOTS said...

WOW You know what really sucks about the whole situation? If they do get a divorce all that money those kids have made will be going to two divorce attorneys.

There goes their college education money.

Mel said...

sice when did "Us" magazine become a reliable source?

Highly suspect that something inappropriate is going on...but this story is far fetched.

I'm sure they hare having marital issues, but I have a hard time thinking Jon would be so stupid.

anon said...

Babs said...

Jon is probably thinking - you want camera's around Kate, I will show you camera's around and what they can catch...............No more season 5 for me! You wont let me speak my mind so my actions will speak louder than words!!!!!!

*************************************

I think this is EXACTLY what he's doing right now, what all of this "getting caught" crap is about. He's giving Kate a big F-You for wanting to continue with Season 5 when he didn't want to. His immature reaction is "you want another season? well then I'll show you!" and getting caught by paps for the world to see.

jill said...

I bet the new woman does not mind Jon's heavy breathing! ;)

Also, there are two sides to every story. Kate was bad on the show, but I bet Jon was bad behind the scenes. He just had the brains to hide it from the world.

RememberMe said...

ew.com has an interview with them up. Jon didn't cheat. Kate thinks he's irresponsible.

MM2005 said...

People are angry with the brother for selling the story. Cash is usually an incentive, but I can’t imagine the awkwardness of the situation. Your sister’s photograph with a well known married man is splashed on the cover of a magazine. You are roommates and have seen the relationship first hand and strongly disapprove. You know your sister is going to eventually be hurt.

After the magazine hits the newsstands, friends and acquaintances you haven’t seen in twenty years ask if it’s true. Is your sister having an affair with Jon Gosselin? You don’t want to be involved, but suddenly, you are. You've made your feelings known, but your sister ignores your warnings, but now you are expected to lie to cover for the scumbag.

Gosselin says they are just friends. Your sister concurs – just friends. People keep asking you and your family. What do you say? Is there a good reason to lie to protect a cheating married man? The truth will eventually come out, it always does.

Jason knows Jon isn’t looking for a new wife – he is looking to recapture a lost youth. Anyone who cares for Deanna would never put her reputation and career in such jeopardy. Someone who loved her would never ask her to lie. Much as speaking the truth will hurt her now, it will save her in the long run.

K. said...

Jon to EW: "I am not guilty of cheating on my wife."Kate starts the attack on Jon right out of the gate.

Tara said...

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2009/05/exclusive-jon-g.html

Please use a name said...

The only victims in all of this are the kids. If anyone had any sense, they could see this coming. She totally ignored him and the fact he didn't want to do this anymore because she, in her words "loves this" and has become an author and has a nanny, and become rich and blah blah blah. They are nothing but tabloid fodder now and 3 years ago I wrote that I would hate to see something about their family on the cover of Star or Globe that Mady or Cara would see. There is no amount of money worth the break up of my family or this kind of pain. She is greedy and I love the Good Housekeeping still promotes them as the happy family. If someone wants to have a viable interview with the Gosselins ask them what happened to their friendship with Beth, who helped them out over and over or why they cut themselves off from everybody, including church. That was a joke too. Everyone's been played by these two.

justmyopinion said...

Only in America can a person say that they have a "career" as an author but not even actually write the book(s)they are selling.

missycristin said...

Just an FYI,
We don't have alimony in PA. Only child support can be granted, but it's pretty steep, depending on which county you live in, it can be as much as 55%.

zoey said...

the EW interview with J and K was interesting.... they dont at all address the childrens feelings.

lifeoriley said...

Re: Charlie Rose--"Kate is NOT a victim..."
I agree. While no one deserves to be cheated on, I can't help but think that Kate has known about Jon's escapades well before the public. She has also been party to the sham--by continuing on as if nothing is wrong. Also, who is to say that Kate's behavior while travelling has been beyond reproach? Hasn't Mr. Gray been spotted nearly everywhere with her, holding her purse, with his arm on her back to guide her? She was reported as having lunch in the Beverly Hills Hotel with a "gray-haired" man--not while making a public appearance. So she gets to travel all over the country with this man, go out to eat with him, and stay in the same hotel as him--all for professional reasons--but it certainly makes a good cover if anything else is going on--even if it is just an emotional affair.
What my point is--so much separation from your spouse is not good for a marriage, in general. I know that many people make such circumstances work--but BOTH partners must be willing to live with the extensive travel/separations. Clearly, Jon was not happy with doing the show anymore and being left in PA as a SAHD. And Kate basically said "too bad" and continued on her merry way--pursuing fame and fortune.
And who is going to suffer the most from this ugliness? The kids. They are the only true victims in this situation.

Daner said...

I absolutely agree that they both have been separated and have been doing their own thing for a while. They were just putting on the happy front for more $$. Remember when they renewed their vows in Hawaii, why do it at 9 years? It was because they knew things were starting to fall apart. Both are to blame and let the fame and fortune go to their heads. I pray for the kids that this show is pulled and they can grow up normal.

konspiracytheory said...

Exhausted said:

"Two points: first, Kate deserves all the misery life has to offer. What goes around comes around. And second, Jon is pathetic. I don't think of it as his cheating on Kate as I think they've been in a dead marriage forever, but he has cheated on his family. He is so weak that he doesn't have the guts to stop the show, yet he buys a sports car like a brat and is so passive aggressive that he needs to shame his family by being out like a lowlife, caught on film.

If Kate is such a horrible wife and mother (true and true), then he should take the time to be there ten times as much for his children to compensate for what she has deprived them of. He should have told her that he would not agree to the show and that he will not give his permission as one of the parents to have his children's pictures sold in that horrible book.

Those would have been honorable, actions filled with justice. They would have been just what Kate deserved--not being out with a tramp, leaving his kids to fend for themselves."
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Wonderful post - sums Jon's situation up perfectly.

Ava said...

I thought the exact thing as a previous poster said about Jon doing this to get out of season 5. I mean if you look at the photo of him in the car with this girl, he is not trying to hide. In fact, he is hunkered down low to make sure his face is fully shown in all photos. He is not putting his hand over his face or even putting the sun visor down. We can barely see the "babe's" face but we sure can see Jon's. I think he is doing all this deliberatly to ruin season 5 from being filmed so he is out of the obligation. Kate would not listen to him when he didn't want to have more kids. She wouldn't listen to him when he said he wanted the show to stop. So now he is going to embarass the hell out of them all to make the show stop.

konspiracytheory said...

sukie siad:

Ugh - and the new commercial with Emeril Lagasse is vomit inducing. Why the heck does he need to do a D-list show? Kate actually smacks him in the preview - I wish he would have turned around and thrown some spices in her eyes and yelled Bam!
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I'm laughing so hard at that mental image that I'm crying - good one!

Double dare said...

That statement was BS. Kate not caring about the ratings, when did that occur? She knew about Jon's infidelities long before this story broke YET she still decided to stay on the road for her tour. Give me a break. They could care less about the effects this is having on their children. I bet on Sunday instead of focusing on their children's 5th birthday it will be all about how we can please Kate for Mother's Day!

If you honestly want us to believe you don't care about your rating Kate, cancel your show. Prove to all of us that you ACTUALLY do love your children and didn't bring them into the world to profit off of them.

Go ahead I dare you!

Lisa said...

It looks as though that EW piece was done before the latest story from the brother came out. They did not refer to his confirmation of the affair at all. All I can say is J&K will find a way to spin this in their favor, regardless of what happened. Whether Jon actually had an affair (or two) or not, all eyes are on them. How sad is that - they are actually monopolizing "celebrity" news this week? It is a sad commentary on the state of "celebrity" in our country today!

yeaisaidthat said...

Sarah said...
"I think this is a reminder of the fact that famalies break up everyday. It's a sad and unfortunate reality.
Have none of you been involved in similar personal struggles?".

IMO, J & K Gosselin are NOT a reminder that 'families break up every day' as the 'typical' family does not succumb to allowing the TERMS AND CONDITIONS that define a'reality' tv show to be the establishing criteria by which they live their life! J & K willingly allowed contract negotiations to determine who and who cannot 'participate' in their (and their children's) 'reality tv' life, gave TLC and its producers the power to define/edit their religious preference, J & K willingly accepted quid pro quo terms and conditions to be the establishing criteria for 'memory making' experiences, and the most damaging of all J & K EXPLOITED their eight children as the means to their own self serving agenda. J & K's current personal struggles are not a result of REALITY but a result of a CHOICE they made to allow others ie, TLC/Figure 8, sponsors, contract negotiations etc to be in the position of POWER and CONTROL to dictate, determine, and define what their 'reality' is or isnt going to be! IMO, J & K's ultimate downfall was a direct result of their inability to sustain and maintain a clear vision of their PERSONAL expectations and aspirations of REAL life vs. their BUSINESS obligations to 'reality tv' life. There is an element of 'real life' accountability that has become all too blurred for J & K Gosselin as they have allowed their (and their children's) fate in life, per their own choice, to be determined and defined by the terms and conditions of the entertainment industry ! J & K are certainly as vulnerable as the rest of us when it comes to personal struggles in life, it is their lack of and absence of personal accountability and control for and of their OWN life and their OWN REALITY that fuels an unsympathetic audience.

MM2005 said...

zoey said...
the EW interview with J and K was interesting.... they dont at all address the childrens feelings.

__________________________
They don't appear to be addressing the truth, either. More than just the brother confirmed the affair.

It is a strategy -- deny, deny, deny.

For the children's sake, stop the circus. End the show.

Things That Make You Go Hmmmm said...

Whatever happened to Jon being the only one who understood Kate? Jon understands you alright Kate.

ruthy said...

It seems like the EW interview (although dated today) was given before this latest "escapade". They only talk about Jon being caught outside the bar. They don't mention the the new photos or the brother's article.

yeahright said...

They have made a statement:

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2009/05/exclusive-jon-g.html

5/06/2009 8:26 AM


It's all the tabloids fault.

Sally said...

Radaronline now has a video interview online to watch that seems very condemning and believable. I am so sad for the kids future with these morally incompetent people as parents.

Snerk said...

US Weekly was very, very smart. They put just enough out there the first week to provoke comment from Jon and Kate and let them lie before they produced the real goods. Besides who wrote those answers for Kate? When has she spoken that well?

Jacqui said...

I'm not convinced that it's not a PR stunt, at least on Kate's part.

What's more interesting than a family with 8 little ones?

....a single mom with 8 little ones.

dontgetitwisted said...

zoey said...
the EW interview with J and K was interesting.... they dont at all address the childrens feelings.

__________________________
They don't appear to be addressing the truth, either. More than just the brother confirmed the affair.

It is a strategy -- deny, deny, deny.

For the children's sake, stop the circus. End the show.

Exactly! Thing is, its not just the TABLOIDS that are reporting scandelous info on Jon and Kate Gosselin. When the going gets tough J & K Gosselin pull out the 'evil doer' card and blame others for ruining their life. Perhaps J & K Gosselin should have thought about how their privacy (its obvious that the children arent a priority) would be intruded upon when they agreed to and continue to participate in a reality tv show. Why J & K feel that they should be exempt from the media and tabloid spot light when THEY continue to INTENTIONALLY (dinner at CHOWS) pursue the 'celebrity'life is beyond me!

MM2005 said...

Here is the link for the radaronline interview that was posted today, on the website.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/05/exclusive-video-eyewitness-%E2%80%9Cjon-kate%E2%80%9D-star-cheating-tells-all

V M said...

I live in PA - and yes, there IS alimony awarded in certain situations. However, the time allocated to receive it is approx 1 year of alimony per each year of marriage.

I kinda doubt if alimony will ever be an issue here though as they are both undoubtedly wealthy.

(It does amaze me that Kate can get away promoting her first book which she didn't even write... and I have to admit, I'm enjoying the negative reviews the second book has garnered for it's nothing but hypocritical Bible verses and pictures of her kids: not exactly Tolstoy.)

boca said...

this is on radaronlinehttp://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/05/exclusive-video-eyewitness-%E2%80%9Cjon-kate%E2%80%9D-star-cheating-tells-all

Angie said...

What I want to know is, what church can afford to shell out $25K + for a speaker (much less one like Kate)? Even for "mega" churches, than is a whopping sum of money that can be used for better church-related projects. I don't know of any church that can afford that. On the contrary, my church is always having a hard time financially. $25K...it just blows my mind. Who could take that kind of money....from a CHURCH?!

Holly said...

I've given Jon a lot of leeway, have felt bad for him even though I don't agree with the exploitation of the children but I have zero tolerance for cheaters. I've been cheated on & it's one of the most painful things I have ever been through and I don't wish it on anyone..including Kate. It's embarrassing as it is, but with this all happening in the public eye..horrible.

I feel so, so bad for those kids. I have a daughter who is the same age as the twins and she reads magazine covers while we're waiting to check out at the store. I can't imagine what those kids are being put through at school..makes me sick.

jerricabenton said...

This is giving me a stomach ache. I can only echo Laura Weiss - I never wanted to be THIS right about Kon.

And idle, pointless thought: do they still have those dogs??

Also, I love you all, but there is no apostrophe in "cameras." It is just a plural word. :)

Sal said...

The Hollywood insider interview is very disturbing. Kate is hanging onto her "fame" for all it is worth.
It is horrendously horrendous she has continued her book signings in light of all this coming out.
Kate will Kontinue to lie for cold hard cash. They both make me sick.
Poor poor kids.

qtrfan said...

Kate's statement: Jon's poor judgment and irresponsible behavior has also without a doubt caused some added tension and stress between the two of us......

I would hate to be in Jon's skin. The hostility in Kate's statement above is blazing. If she treated him like crap in front of the cameras before, just imagine what is going on behind closed doors now.

Yikes.

Wake-UpCall said...

Alana said..."I hope Take isn't awarded the "victim" role in this sham."

I hope not either, but as I read thru some of these posts, I am feeling almost as sick & depressed as I have felt when watching their show. Kate will luv playing the victim role, and having the fans bash Jon just the way she has done to him for these past years on national TV. I cannot imagine how hurt and humilated he must have felt when she hurled one burning hateful remark after another at him. He simply could do no right by her standards. Kate is cruel, controlling and in general hates men.

We teach people how to treat us by our own actions. I'm on Jon's side. I saw this coming.

I cannot get over the comments posted after the US and Star magazine articles. People still believe Kate has been the main caretaker of her children. Wrong!!! It was Jon, and now it's the not-a-nannies.

siliconmom said...

I don't think discussing how or why they got to this state in their marriage is excusing their behavior. They've both behaved poorly, to put it mildly.

Basically you have two people who were too immature to get married when they did, who didn't take the time to grow as a couple before rushing in to having children, who were thrown in to a circumstance (of their own choosing, granted) that would stress most seasoned, mature, other focused couples with good communication skills and who then decided that throwing a reality show in to the mix would be beneficial to their family and couldn't cope when that reality show took on a life of it's own.

These are two people who I pray will be able to rise above their pettiness and immaturity to realize "Hey, we brought 8 innocent kids in to this world and our own personal issues aside, we owe it to them to make this work", whether that is together or apart (I hope together, personally, because I feel marriage is a life long commitment).

I'd even be fine with an official "5" season if it focused on their efforts to salvage their relationship. The focus would be less on the kids and more on the two of them. They need to stand up, say "Hey, we screwed up but we're going to try and make amends, to our children, to each other and to our families". We don't need to know all the dirty details (the gossip mags will show us anyway). They often say some of their appeal is that they keep it real. Well, real people have real relationship issues that can ruin their marriages. Real people get help when those issues come up. Real people put their kids first, whether they stay together or not.

Keep it real guys.

Melissa P. Gentry said...

Do Jon or Kate EVER take responsibility for their actions? EVER?

Lordy Bee

RealMom said...

The EW article is very confusing to me also. Was it done before the recent video came out? She says they will discuss it on the new season (stay tuned everyone.) I think this can very well be a well-thought out PR scheme. Think about it. She could be a nanny or family friend they conned into going along with them. Wait until Kate is out of town, have her over on the front lawn, video Jon leaving the bar with her and then someone's house. This same thing happened in February right before the Season and they had highest ratings ever. I mean think about it. Jon is very well known in those parts and is very recognizable. He was out in the open. Most well-known people sneak around. Now he is out once again right before the new season starts. Too much of a coincidence for me. Maybe that is why Kate is not cancelling these inane appearances and rushing home to be with her kids.That is why I am skeptical. I think if I see her on any TV shows today or tomorrow calmly discussing her stupid books and telling the audience that they will discuss all this on the new season which starts on May ___, then I will have my answer. Any thoughts?

boca said...

even though things are pretty tight for us right now,ecomony and all i wouldnt trade my life for all thier glitz,i have a well balanced daughter who will be going to prom on friday, had to squeeze to get her a dress but all worth it!!

Lisa said...

He needs to come clean, period. And if they're going to save their marriage, they both need to make changes.

SamD10 said...

I think the brother is just looking for a bit of attention!!! Why else would he want to embarrass his sister like that??

And as much I am NOT a Kate fan or a Jon fan as he allows Kate to treat him like a child.. neither is innocent in this whole 'mess' THEY have created!

Hey DCF... time to get involved.. child slavery

3ts said...

Kate had a good inkling that her old man has been screwing around on her or wanted out for awhile now. But, remember her words about season 5..she LOVED what she was doing, traveling around being an "author" (cough, cough) and wanting season 5.
The vows were renewed at 9 years to reassure Kate at the time. Wonder if Jon stepped out around then too?
Wonder if Kate is doing "Mr. Grey' cause if you catch him in fans' pics and there are many of him, he does look at Kate quite adoring-ish. Now that would be the perfect cover up for an affair.

I hope and pray these two twits and T.he L.eech C.hannel get the Gosselin children some counseling now, they will need it. And not Dr. Shrill or Oprah. They are leeches and exploiters in their own right too.

I'm sick of "People" magazine too. Nothing but an expensive "let me lie to the fans" and excuse magazine.
"Us" needs to do a story now how the kids are exploited and TLC continues to do so with other shows.

siliconmom said...

Ok I just saw the video.

I don't know. First off, if it is video footage from her house, then I think it's obvious her brother took it. And that's just skanky. Because he's not doing it out of brotherly love, he's doing it to make a buck.

Second, I have to agree, I'm not sure it is Jon. He's a little paunchier than that and the bald spot was certainly ALOT bigger than what I've seen on the show recently (he should get his $ back for those hair implants if it is him...oh wait. He didn't pay for those hair implants).

Jane in California said...

Sukie said...

Ugh - and the new commercial with Emeril Lagasse is vomit inducing. Why the heck does he need to do a D-list show? Kate actually smacks him in the preview - I wish he would have turned around and thrown some spices in her eyes and yelled Bam!ROFL!!! Best comment I've read so far today. Sad to say, but since Emeril lost his contract with the Food Network, I think he's been working hard to keep his face out in the public eye. I know he has his own show on the Green Network, but that doesn't get the same viewership as Food Network.

I'm at work trying to read quietly and the mental image of Emeril tossing some cayenne pepper in Kate's face and going BAM! is making me giggle helplessly (all the while, trying to do it silently!)

Neena said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SJmzM1wqO4

Make sure you have on a Depends diaper before watching this video spoof.

A. said...

Two things are very obvious to me...

1) J and K are already in the process of divorce and probably have been for a while,

and

2) J likes young women... very young women.

I wonder what the future of the show will be? Chronicling their divorce, the kids' therapy, the custody squabbles, the new relationships both J and K enter into?

I also wonder if J will exercise his parental rights to try to end the show's taping, or is he too used to the cash cow...? Could they make enough off off syndication to have an income?

Didi said...

Someone posted the following comment on US Weekly's website. It's pretty amusing.

Kate Gosselin said: Jon needed something to do while I was off spray tanning, teeth whitening, having the back of my hair made to look like an Indian head dress, going to the spa, running on the treadmill and disowning every member of my family & all my friends.

Sue said...

Not sure if this has been posted!

She blames Jon and the tabloids...That's it!

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2009/05/exclusive-jon-g.html

Lori said...

I think the fat lady has sung.....

Jane in California said...

Re the EW official denial by J&K:

I notice they were sure quick to say that with this unfortunate hounding and "twisting" of facts by the papparazi, they will be even less inclined to pose for pictures with fans. Um, what??? How does Jon getting snapped leaving a bar at 2:00 a.m. translate into pesky fans must be avoided at all costs?

There's too much smoke in all of this for there not to be actual fire, i.e. - marriage vows being ignored (likely by both of them).

Denise2 said...

What a mess!!! Those poor kids, you know all their classmates have heard about all this.
I love the comment about how Kate is all religious and follows how her husband is the head of the household and must be obeyed. She's so innocent. as if, has that person been watching the same show as us??

wickedorchid said...

Wow. I am amazed. This family is a train wreck. PEOPLE ARE NOT MEANT TO HAVE LITTERS OF CHILDREN. It's just way too much. I think that Kate is such a bitch because she is totally overwhelmed. The early videos of their marriage really show a sweet side to her which is now long gone. It's too bad that Jon didn't try to assert himself in the relationship and address her verbal abuse. Banging some young hottie when you are a public figure with 8 children is just plain dumb. How could he possible think that he could get away with it?

haylzyes said...

LOL I bet the original TWOP is kicking themselves for shutting down the JK+8 thread with all this being fodder for the blogosphere. Truthfully, I haven't been back since. Thanks, GWOP, for stepping in where bullied network-owned websites caved in to pressure!

TinyDancer said...

qtrfan said...
Kate's statement: Jon's poor judgment and irresponsible behavior has also without a doubt caused some added tension and stress between the two of us......

I would hate to be in Jon's skin. The hostility in Kate's statement above is blazing. If she treated him like crap in front of the cameras before, just imagine what is going on behind closed doors now

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WHAT?? Stop giving Jon any credit. He cheated on her. I would be mad too! I think her statement was too the point and merited.

In Mourning for Children said...

If she treated him like crap in front of the cameras before, just imagine what is going on behind closed doors now

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There is nothing going on behind closed doors. The parents are away and the children have paid.

Sad state of affairs for those children.

Lisa said...

I'm concerned for myself; this whole mess is making me long for a Duggar marathon.

goawayJandK said...

None of this Kate-doesn't-deserve-this pity from me.

You treat people how you wish to be treated, and when you treat people like SH*T, you should expect nothing less in return.

Jane and K8 can go screw themselves - my heart breaks for those kids.

RealMom said...

Boca, we have a first time prom also on Friday. What a crazy time. I can't even think of her wedding. I don't know about your town but in my area there are some women's organizations that collect used gowns from the schools and sell them very cheap to kids who cannot afford to spend alot. The gowns are very nice and only have been worn once or twice. Not a bad idea to look into or to start in your local school PTA. Enjoy prom but be careful.

FED UP ALREADY said...

Really? This is all the PUBLIC's fault now? Just like it was society's fault that she had the kids in the first place? These two people never cease to amaze me. Stand up and take responsiblity for your fake asses. Seriously.

Enough is enough. This is not a TV Series, this is a REAL family with REAL children who are going to be effected no matter how you want to twist it around to make it look like the PUBLIC's fault.

Get your kids off of TV and be a REAL family for once in your life.

True blue IDIOTS equal Jon and Kate.

Pink said...

During the preview for the cooking with Emerill show, Kate is once again belittling Jon while he is pouring the recipe into a pan. Emerill steps up to the plate and says, "LEAVE HIM ALONE!". That's when Kate whacked him with the spatula. I got some pleasure watching no one laugh but Kate herself. OMG, I cannot stand her.

Hope said...

I wonder:
1. If the whole 'vow renewal' was doing like a lot of people whose marriage has had problems and they are trying to 'start over'??
2. If Jon has been to the girls house several times, etc - and she lives WITH her brother - he must REALLY not like Jon? or Jon doesn't care - and is ready for this to all come out?
3. Since J&K say they do the show so the world can see how they manage family life - I wonder if there will be a show filmed of them dealing with 'this' and how they handle it with the kids. ??
4. Didn't they choose the house they bought because it was closer to the kids school? If so -- I wonder if the school had to sign a non-disclosure to not ever release any info about the Gosselins?

Ann said...

The show will go on. Hasn't Season 5 already started taping? From reports I would guess at least 8-10 episodes have been taped, and no matter what I'm sure they will tape a mothers day/tups birthday this weekend so even with 12 episodes, showing 1 per week is almost three months which covers the summer.

Kate should have been home with her family during the last week. I have a feeling she might bring the kids with her to the Today show. They can't ask about daddy when the kids are there?
Kate will probably be via satilite on Larry King which airs thursday. Whoppie Goldberg is the main guest, so Kate will get 1 or 2 segments at the end. It was probably intended to be a mothers day interview but it will be interesting to see if she goes solo or again has the kids in the picture to avoid questions.

I also see Kate playing the victim. I see her saying that she was a strong organized mother and Jon was immature and irresponsible and he could not handle a strong women. Notice in there comments to EW, she does not stand up for Jon.


As much as I think Kate is not mom of the year, and I think her words are as fake as the tan, I don't understand Jon public actions (unless he really wanted to get Kate mad). I don't understand (and neither did DH) why Jon could not just chill at home. Play on the atvs, play video games, maybe build the kids a swingset (or something cool like the rolloffs, or at least deisgn something that someone else can build).

One thing that rings in my head was when Kate in the new house episode saying "It is all Mine", not it is all Ours?

Laura Q. Stone said...

Us magazine isnt the MOST credible. I'd say its somewhere between the Enquire(least credible) and People(mostly if not all fact). However, most likely there is some truth to this controversy. In the very least Jon IS just being irresponsible, staying out late, being seen with another women at 2am, etc.) But I have to wonder why a 32 year-old would be "friends" with a 23 year-old? If he were out with a 23 year-old family member I may be more comfortable with it. Instead, its a school teacher, and nobody like Kate has mentioned if she is a mutual friend.

As far as the Brother of this 23 year-old. Who knows about him. He may just be in it for the money. Its not that far fetched. Look at what Kate has done to her family for money.

You know all those people(sheeple you like to call them) who defend the choices they made about making their lives public by saying "If I had the chance to make the money, to provide a better life my kids, I would do it and so would you.." I wonder if they would still do it now?

By the way, I love the theory somebody posted about how Kate mothers Jon. She's older than him and has always treated him as an authority(or so it seems). Now with her gone all the time siging books, and speaking from her high horse, Jon is like a wild teenager. What does a child do when Mommy's not around?

I am willing to bet more is going to come out. At best it will remain quiet for a few months once this blows over but he will be caught again I am sure. If not caught then this will at least likely end in devorce. I believe its a huge risk you take when you decide to have kids. Its rough on any marriage, than to throw camera's and fame into the mix, its like playing with fire.

Allie said...

I think her statement was too the point and merited.

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Really? It wasn't HER statement it was PR's statement. She could care less unless her money train stops. Trust me.

suzysunshine said...

woot! maybe this has been said already, but if it was me in the brother's shoes and i saw articles with people saying "no way, jon's just blowing off steam" and i knew for a fact that they were both lying, it wouldn't take one thin dime to motivate me to speak out, just to call bullshit on the lies. and i'd have even more motivation to speak up if i'd been listening to the grunts and moans through the walls, and when i tried to warn her, she wouldn't listen...

as for the video, i imagine myself as a nosy neighbor, i see a famous guy sneaking out of my neighbor's house at odd hours, oh yes, the first thing i do is grab my video camera and get it on film because i know no one is going to just take my word for it. the only thing that seemed suspect to me on the video was it didn't show which car he got in.

ArmyWife said...

Maybe this will be a mixed blessing and the show will finally end and the kids will have a chance at a decent future after some psychology. Can you imagine Those sextuplets trying to date in high school when everyone has seen them pooping on the potty and knows Kate has pictures of them sitting next to their first poopy in the potty.

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