Free Discussion 5/9 - 5/15

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Moira said...

Here's a poll to express your opinion on the Gosselin's situation.

http://www.digitalhit.com/poll/vote/186 Poll

squatmunkie said...

I bought the new Us Weekly and it says that pic of the 23 y/o female (named Deanna) in her bikini with Jon was taken at J&K's house. Kate was out of town then. I wonder where the kids where...

There are a few more pics of Jon with her at J&K's house too. Deanna's brother isnt the only person saying the affair took place, her friends are too.

Why would Kate go on with saying that these are just tabloid stories? Us Weekly says they didn't pay anyone. Why would she defend him?

Samantha D. said...

OMG this is the most hilarious parody of Jon & Kate EVER! Check it out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SJmzM1wqO4

Val#2 said...

Maybe in a sic/twisted way Kate likes all the attention that she is getting now. I think that she is thriving on it like a vulture.

Way off the current topic but on the trip to Utah when they all arrived and were getting on a van to take them to the condo several of the tups had to go potty. Guess who Kate handed them over to? Sweet Beth...Dammit Kate take your own kids to the potty!

Dooney said...

In the interview with Meredith Vieira on the Today show, Kate stated, "I'm very hesitant to believe any of it.", regarding the allegations of Jon's affair.

"I'm very hesitant to believe any of it." ... Now that's a most peculiar statement! It almost sounds like she hasn't spoken directly to Jon, either on the phone or face-to-face. Even though she goes on to say they're "working through it together", is it possible that they are only communicating through third parties and not directly with each other?!!

After witnessing their increasing dislike of each other over the course of last season's episodes, it wouldn't surprise me if they now couldn't stand to be in the same room together.

Janine said...

You know, I just think all of this is SUCH a mess!

Its obvious the rumors are true with the proof (video, brothers statement to US Weekly without payment, etc.), but the thing that I dont get is WHY would Jon be SO STUPID to think that he could have an affair and not get caught with him being in the public eye? Did he NOT learn ANYTHING with the Juanita College student pictures back in February?!?! I mean, it seems to me like he kind of got caught on purpose....like he didnt care.

I honestly think, like alot of other posters, that Jon and Kate arent really together anymore and thats why Jon said in his statement, "The bottom line is that I did not cheat on Kate." Well, if they werent together anymore, he wasnt lying in that statement. He knows it, and SHE knows it.

I agree with alot of other posters that it has said volumes in the last couple days with what Kate has NOT said in interviews. The most she HAS said about her and Jon is that they are a couple...and that was in the Larry King interview. And seriously, she could have just said that for the show, along with her many other lies she told.

Kate NEVER mentioned ANYTHING about the rumors NOT being true, she has never said that Jon did not cheat on her (in fact the most she has said is that she is "hesisent to believe any of it"), she never said they were still together, she never said they are still in love, or that they ever love each other at all anymore.

I think that the fame and money has really corrupted their marriage and family life. They have the money to do practically whatever they want to now and it shows.

Anyway, I dont know how this is all going to turn out, but I hope for the childrens sake that they are atleast protected during this firestorm. Bottom line is, I dont think they will still be playing teh "married" game after this summer season is over.

Shari said...

Samantha D~
Thanks for the link of the parody. A good laugh was exactly what I needed this morning! That was hilarious :)

met said...

So Kate is out today (Saturday before Mother's Day) shilling her scrapbook and doing talks. I think that alone speaks volumes about the type of person and mother she is. A very bad one. She should of cancelled these appearances. (actually they should never of been planned) This shows me that she could give a crap about her children.

met said...

I have to comment again..when is she going to END this charade? How can she do this to her children. ( i don't give a crap about Jon) Is the almighty dollar and the "celebrity" status really worth the happiness of her children. I think at this point the family is pretty much set for life in the money department. (unless they invested with Madoff)

She is a horrible person.

linda said...

She is scheduled to be on the Rachael Ray show this week.. I so wish that she would realize that she is not a star and go home and spend time with her kids and get into therapy..

Anonymous said...

Thank-you Samantha D. for sharing that - it was hilarious!

JFS in IL

lifeoriley said...

I think Kate said she is "hesitant" to believe the stories about Jon--not because she doesn't really know exactly what's going on--it's because she and her PR team are still figuring out how to handle (spin) this crisis. Should she deny everything and claim that she and Jon are still a committed couple? Or, should she play the poor, clueless victim?
Kate answers questions like a politician or a person giving a legal deposition-- she's constantly thinking of her image and how to spin things to her advantage rather than just being candid or shutting up and going home to her kids.

XYZed said...

I've noticed that there is a distinct absence of Jon and Kate Plus Eight promos running on TLC. With a new season about to start one would expect their faces to pop up often throughout the progeamming day. When TLC promoted the vow renewal ceremony and also the "dramatic" bombshell episode at the end of last season, they were on at every turn.

Obviously, TLC is very nervous about how the mess between Jon and Kate will turn out. The bad publicity certainly seems to be hurting the squeaky clean image of their cash cows.

On another note, I want to say a big "Thank you" to the very hard-working moderators of this site. You always do a great job, but your commitment this week has been exceptional. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

imaamy said...

Those two were so spot on. Absolutely perfect with their mannerisms, even the way they held their eyes. It was hilarious. Thanks so much for posting it.

stunned said...

Samantha D. said, "OMG this is the most hilarious parody of Jon & Kate EVER! Check it out!"
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LOL, great video! Thanks for the smile, Samantha!

K8 H8 said...

I am so sick of all this Gosselin, (Excuse me, Jon an Kate) crap! UGH! They are so sick!

AnneMarie said...

I"ll be out tomorrow, so I'll post this now. Someday, they'll get to read it.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY KIDDOS!

rachel said...

Maybe the reason Kate is away so much with appearances, book signings, etc. at a crazy pace is b/c she realizes that SHE will have to support the family if there is a divorce. Jon has no income; it will be up to her to provide for the kids.

Jen K said...

I think the new wrinkle this week is going to be that receipt. It has Steve Neild's name on it (Kate's bodyguard) as the customer.

That is starting to look more and more interesting...Jon and Kate are in LA. They are photographed at Mr. Chow (but they're not fame whores or anything). The next day, a Cole Haan purse is purchased (the receipt) allegedly for Deanna from Jon. But Steve's name is the customer name on the receipt.

If Steve is ALWAYS with Kate when did Steve buy the purse? And wasn't Kate seen wearing Cole Haan shoes just a few days or weeks later? Not that you can only get them there, but it seems odd that there should be a trip to Cole Haan for a bag and it's the bodyguard whose name shows up on the receipt.

Could Steve, Jon and Kate be THAT stupid? I mean, can people not read the name on the receipt? Of course, I don't think Steve's full name had been floated until this week either. He was Mr. Grey to most of us in the know.

That receipt is something...either Jon had Steve buy it for him on the sly or he bought it right in front of Kate. Either way....that receipt is going to be a factor this week as the magazines do more digging.

People have speculated that this is all a scheme for ratings. I didn't think that at first, but now I'm not so sure. If so, they are truly awful people. But they are pretty awful regardless in my opinion.

Debra said...

New poster here (but I HAVE been lurking for a while).

You guys just HAVE to see what this guy wrote about KON! He really, really gets it - and says it so eloquently!

http://www.diariesoftheprofessor.com/

Rachel said...

OMG this is the most hilarious parody of Jon & Kate EVER! Check it out!


That was so spot on! Hilarious, thanks for sharing!

BostonBean said...

Squat --
She says that these are just tabloid stories because that is her new pat answer.
Some people don't follow them closely, and would probably believe her answer if they caught the news in passing.
She will not give any more indepth comments on their relationship for awhile. She just wants to feel "popular" right now by showing up on every show that she can. She's not really defending HIM....she's just saying what she can to keep her show going. They have enough money now that they don't HAVE to put up with one another's actions. At the end of season 5 they will probably mention that they thought it best to separate; but will always plan "outings" together for the kids or something similar. Then they will try to continue the show.

lukebandit said...

i just can't believe her interview on the today show. she was robotic, didn't say that jon and herself loves each other. she said, she and jon love the children to pieces? is it true that she has book tour duty today on mother's day weekend? isn't the kids bday tomorrow? what in the heck is wrong with her? she should of been home this weekend planning things and helping the kids with mother's day. or jon should be there taking them to get her something for mother's day or making something. who is watching the kids? i can't believe that kate is so vicious to not allow aunt jody to get paid. kate is a selfish, greedy vulture that i just can't understand to do your family that way. is she that self-centered?
the parody was very funny. i'm not a morning person! well, you know all the things the parody said is what she has said.
for them to both show up at churchs and get the appearance fee 25K, and a love offering? greedy self-centered grab while you can idiots.
jon has crossed the line with the teacher. i can't believe she would be at jon's house in a bikini, sunbathing. she should be fired. it is unacceptable behavior for a single 23 year old teacher to be there with a father of 8 children sunbathing in a bikini on his front lawn.
come on school board. fire her!

Glenda said...

I think if we look at the history of families that have done reality shows together where are they now? DIVORCED!!! Each have said that in some way the shows that they did ruined their marriage. Especially when one person wants to do it and the other doesn't. What I find really troubling is that Kate continues to be on talk shows and also wants to continue with the show. What she needs to do is say 'You know we are going to take a break from filming and focus on saving our marriage and our kids.' I don't think she even realizes it's the show that has ruined their lives. I wonder if she ever thinks that she is truly alone. I mean she has shut out everyone is her life parents, brothers and old friends. Now her husband and her kids does she not even realize that?
I do however think she will use this oppurunity to write yet another book on how God has brought her through 'this incredibly difficult period of her life'. When I think in all God is giving her a sign to focus on what's really important her husband and her kids. I truly don't think Kate 'gets it' what damage she has done to her kids. I don't even think John gets it. That while they are being the selfish people that they are their kids are going to grow up to be children and adults that truly hate their parents. That the kids will turn into Kate and never talk to her again when they get to be grown ups. WAKE UP YOU IDIOTS before you lose what all God has blessed you with.

Lisbeth said...

Still curious--
Does anyone know if the kids get paid separately for their 4 years of work appearing on this show? Is their money safe from their parents? Will they have money after their childhood experiences have been sold for profit?

The children have a right to privacy. They have a right to not have their daily lives filmed and broadcast for the world to watch as entertainment. TLC, Zondervan, organizations that pay for the kids to come visit for free publicity...all should be ashamed of themselves.

Jon and Kate are a mess, obviously. And are too caught up in the middle of the drama of their marriage and "careers" to see what this show is doing to their kids lives. Does anyone know what this could do to the kids psychologocial development if their personal memories differ widely than what is broadcast and tells a different story than what they lived?

Mark my words, 10-20 years from now we will hear from the kids, in their own way, about their childhood experience and how this show impacted their lives and future. I just hope they have an adult in their life that will step in NOW and try to protect them from any future harm.

Momto4ickyboys said...

Funny side note here...

I just got back from the hairdresser to get my hair done for my son's first communion... I come home and dear hubby tells me that I look like Kate... same eyes, similar hair (no porcupine here...).

Frankly, I don't see it (ok a little...)

So I'm off to shave my head... :D

Martine (who can't wait to wash her hair)

samcarter said...

Those who wonder if Kate is enjoying the attention, I'd have to say yes. She's a narcissist, and narcissists LOVE a chance to play the victim. They're always the victim, never the cause of the problem.

My mom is a narcissist. As sick as it was, when my brother died, she seemed to THRIVE on the attention she got as a mother who lost her son. When she did speak about her loss, it was always, "Oh, I didn't get to see him get married," or "I didn't get to see him have kids," never about my brother, always about HER loss.

Narcissists want attention, they don't care who gets hurt or maimed in the process. And a situation in which she's the wronged spouse? It's going to be like catnip for her.

Tangerine Tanya said...

Just watched the parody on J/K on youtube. So dang funny. How I wish that cold be presented to Kate.

Me said...

As I was watching a re-run of the Utah trip my son who is 26 years old walked in and said "What the hell are those those two fools taking small kids like that skiing for? It's all cold for them and they are crying. Shouldn't they be taking them to a park to play with other kids or something?" Wow my son has more commone sense then the two of them put together.

Michelle said...

but the thing that I dont get is WHY would Jon be SO STUPID to think that he could have an affair and not get caught with him being in the public eye?

Maybe he wanted to get caught. the only way out for him so he took it. Remember she is a shrew. If he was forced to do season 5, this might be his way of getting out of anything more.

BTW....if season 5 is already taped, how will they address this situation?

Michelle said...

How weird is it that there are links to polls on TLC's J&K+8 site to say whether or not Jon cheated.

They are called sponsored links.

Aunt Chris said...

I think Kate is "hesitant to believe" because she can't figure out HOW Jon could be cheating since she emasculated him so long ago. What's he using?

And, I agree with someone on one of the blogs that she probably hates sex - much too icky.

Wendy Bird said...

I know that it has been mentioned many times that the IRS needs to audit Jon and Kate, but with the receipt for the bag in Steve Neild's name, they should also start looking at Discovery/TLC and Steve's company.

If they have "expensed" that bag by paying for it with Steve's credit card, you have to wonder what else has been expensed. Even though Kate is wearing her designer clothes for interviews and appearances, you CANNOT expense them. I only wear my suits at work and I cannot claim them as a work-related expense. Also, even if you are traveling for work, you are limited to the amount you can deduct for eating out, etc. It would be interesting to know if the Mr. Chow's dinner will be listed as an expense item.


Helllloooooo - IRS?

Had Enuf said...

SamCarter is correct. Kate never sees anything she does as wrong. She is always right and frankly she doesn't give a damn what others think of her, even her own children or family

KC said...

A previous post mentions they haven't seen many promos for the new season. I disagree-if you notice, they have run that preview of the season premiere several times, just as many times as they have run that dumb show about the little couple. TLC knows people will tune in, they hardly need to use airtime to promote the new season. This season will attract more viewers than ever before. It's exactly what TLC and the Gosselins want, and it's what pays for the cars, the houses, the clothes, etc...

Holly said...

Did anyone notice how soft spoken and humble Kate appeared to be on the Today show? I agree with another poster that she is trying to "re-invent" herself. I would be shocked if she didn't play the victim card for all it was worth. What did it for me was that she didn't even try to deny the whole cheating scandal, she was very vague when talking about these "rumors" and focused more on the tabloids in general than their accustaions. She obviously has NO loyalty to Jon any longer because she basically helped dig his grave in all of this by publically admiting her reservations in trusting her own husband. I truly believe that this woman is uncapable of love, everyone and everything in her life serves a purpose to benefit her. Why isn't she home reassuring her children and trying to mend a very broken marriage? Because she can't see past the $ signs. Isn't greed one of the cardinal sins Ms. Good Christian?

PaTaxPayer said...

Do we know for sure whether the sextuplets got their college education paid for by the State of PA? Just wondering where my tax dollars are going is all...

SadinNJ said...

rachel, don't you see that neither Jon NOR Kate are supporting the kids right now? Doesn't matter if they get a divorce. They are supporting themselves.

notamom said...

Just your average family..with Emeril in your kitchen cooking..and your kids in perfectly matched clothes and shoes with not even so much as a stain..and a bodyguard..and affairs splashed across the tabloids..

Please, fellow gwoppers, do NOT watch this "season" and contribute to this mess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulFQ186apdY

BMWoP said...

For somebody who claims she's far from perfect, she sure breaks her neck to appear she is.


She also says what you see is what you get. Then why-o-why do we see a raving banchee on the show, and then a prissy-poo on talk shows? Will the real Kate Gosselin please stand up and stop contradicting yourself already?

I truly think the woman has an identity issue. She has no clue who she is, so she tries to play many parts.....but the part she does best is what she really is. A bitch.

Donna said...

I agree with the promos thing, however, they have constantly been showing this stupid preview with emeril. She smacks emeril's arm and goes, "BAM!" In the words of Samantha Jones, "Oh honey, you made a little joke. Good for you."

3ts said...

The bodyguard is an aging ex-cop that once did security detail for former President Clinton. Notice there is no other pictures on their site. They totally pumped up their site and resume. There are so many ex-cop and military security companies out there now. They are probably small companies with a few employees where the investors are called VPs but they also pull security too because they are that small.
Kate hired a bodyguard to give the ILLUSION that she needed a bodyguard, so we thought she needed one. We thought that was reality. I wish someone would come out and ask Kate if they are separated (and if both are seeing other people) because Kate is playing mind games of reality. They have a reality show but if it is the viewer's perception of the reality projected by Jon and Kate. They need blown out of the water by truth.
I am wondering--how come Mr. Gray's company wasn't on the receipt rather than his name. Now wouldn't that be the smart thing to do and have Jon reimburse the security company? Unless he wanted cash or something. Is Mr. Gray still employed at his company or working on his own? (Sorry I forgot the name of it.)

She's So Delusional said...

Kate: "I hate that word...celebrity. I am not a celebrity".

~ limousines
~ Mr. Chow
~ body guards
~ books signings out the wazoo
at her request
~ million dollar home
~ sports cars
~ lavish vacations
~ mysterious trips to L.A.
~ frequently in NY City
~ First Class accomodations
required when traveling
~ $25,000 speaking fee commanded
~ spray tans
~ botox
~ tummy tuck and liposuction
~ rock star hair-do
~ Cole Hann bags and shoes
~ Personal trainer
~ NY Times bestseller books
~ Today Show, Oprah, Bonnie Hunt,
GMS, Fox & Friends, Ellen, Rachel
Ray, Larry King, Dr. Phil,Yes
To the Dress, Regis
& Kelly, Morning Show with Mike
& Juliette ( but too skerd to
face the women of The View :)
~ manicures/ pedicures/ massages
~ VIP seating at events
~ businesses close only for them
~ bling...much more than ever
~ alleged boob-job
~ Sara Snow, Steve Thomas, Emeril
~ 4-wheelers, Mules, pedigreed pups
~ private schools
~ nannies, housekeepers, chefs
~ Magazine covers and stories
~ Hired PR firm
~ website promoting selves
~ DVD's
~ tabloids
~ marriage on the rocks ala
celebrity scandal fashion


Ummmmm.....okay. I guess the "not-a-celebrity" thing is along the same lines of the "not-a-chef" and "not-a-nanny" thing. Whatever.

I'm just sayin said...

Nola and Shakra(?) have a new pal keeping them company now and it's no other then Jon because he is in THE DOG HOUSE!

Oh and She's So Delesonial, Not-A-View and 3ts.....If I were a teacher I would give you all a A+ for your witt.

Tony said...

Aunt Chris said...
I think Kate is "hesitant to believe" because she can't figure out HOW Jon could be cheating since she emasculated him so long ago. What's he using?

-----------------------------------Oh--I had a good laugh--I was thinking Viagra --yes but then not. DH just rolled his eyes. Ha!

ruthy said...

When I watched Larry King you would think the only kids she had were the Tups.

She states "we love our kids to pieces, they are safe, happy and healthy and their birthdays are coming up". She also says "we have had five wonderful years with eight children".

It would seem she only thinks of the Tups....oh right, they are the money makers. Without them where would she be.

I am also offended by her statement "the twins aren't aware of anything because they go to a private school where the parents are only concerned about investing their time in their kids education and activities".

I guess that because my son goes to public school I am not investing my time in his education and activities.

Who does she think she is?

Marie France said...

A couple of things... First, has anyone noticed that the few times TLC has promoted the upcoming KON season, it is referred to as their "summer season." Maybe TLC is just going to use the shows it has already filmed to play out every Monday in the summer and call it a day and cancel KON for good. I also have noticed that TLC is promoting a number of other shows (new ones, too) for its summer season.
ALSO - Take is appearing for a book sihning at Sam's Club in Bentonville, Arkansas today. Bentonville is the world headquarters of Wal-Mart (wonder if there is some spokesperson deal on the table?). BUT - the key thing is that TODAY is May 9. Tomorrow is Sunday, May 10 - the TUP'S 5th BIRTHDAY. Looks like her Royal Bitchness decided not to make this weekend a priority for her kids.

jill said...

I just sent a message to Kon's website. It was returned because their mailbox is full. Either they cannot keep up with all the comments or they are no longer checking.

timetogokon said...

That receipt is something...either Jon had Steve buy it for him on the sly or he bought it right in front of Kate. Either way....that receipt is going to be a factor this week as the magazines do more digging.

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A GWOPper sent the link- showing Steve's name- to Us Magazine, just in case they hadn't noticed it.

Jen K said...

Yeah, I love how Kate pretends like this celebrity thing 'just happened' and she doesn't understand it either. Bitch has been working this gig since before the tups were even born!

I also took offense to the comment about how the older girls go to a quiet private school where people are more invested in what their kids are doing than all of this. Seriously? I would bet that there is even MORE gossiping going on there among the parents and staff than there is even here! What planet is she on?

Plus, if I have my information correct, the school goes all the way up to 12th grade, so you know the teenagers and tweens (some of which can be catty and cruel) are probably making Mady and Cara's life a living hell.

But no Kate, keep working this gig. It's all about you and what you want in life isn't it? Hope you are having fun in Bentonville kissing ass and taking names while your kids wait at home with their party hats and balloons. God knows kids that age wouldn't want an attentive and supportive parent around for their birthday weekend....way to show them you care.

I think it's about time some of the hardcore fans wakeup and realize how truly, truly selfish this woman is.

Lisa said...

I think the pics of Deanna Hummel in the bikini were taken outside of Jon's mothers's house when he was staying there in the pretense of helping his mother out bc of her recent surgery...

DeeB said...

I just want to say that I started reading and contributing to this blog a few months ago and it is the first time I have ever even been near a blog. During the recent events I started poking around at other blogs regarding Jon & Kate. I was absolutely shocked at all the vulgar language, hatefulness, ugliness, and just plain mean stuff that I read. I will not go back to these sites. Thank you to all who moderate this blog for making it what it is. Thank you to all who post as well. I've come to look forward to hearing from a lot of you and I appreciate your thoughtfulness. I know we sometimes get off topic and even get a little crazy at times; but I really believe most people on this blog have as their first priority the safety, care, and concern for the Gosselin children. You are good people and as an older woman it makes me proud when I read your comments knowing that so many women care about their husbands and children in such a positive and constructive way. Some values don't and shouldn't change as the world changes. Happy Mother's Day to all!

UGH! said...

Samantha D -

Not to sound like a broken record, but that YT clip made me laugh out loud.

Thanks for the link !

Connie said...

I am not sure if Jon really had an affair. I don't know.

He said he "will do anything for my kids."

So maybe this is just to get attention for their new season.

But let's say he really did have an affair and he certainly did not try very hard to keep it a secret.

If he did, I think he thought, "Well, if I get caught, so what? Who cares? Not me!"

Adults need other adults in their lives. Kate is gone so much, he probably would have hooked up with anybody that looked his direction.

He is lonely.

He is Mr Mom.

Kate is a shrew.

Jon needs to feel like there is someone out there that loves him just for him, not for Kate & the 8.

He said he wishes he could be Just Jon, not J&K+8.

Norma Jean said...

I also took offense to the comment about how the older girls go to a quiet private school where people are more invested in what their kids are doing than all of this. Seriously? I would bet that there is even MORE gossiping going on there among the parents and staff than there is even here! What planet is she on?
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She sees what she wants to see and believes what she wants to believe. She tries to make us believe that stupidity that comes out of her mouth.

Kids can be so intensely cruel. Even the best of kids like to make life miserable for other kids.

It is a rule dont'cha know?

SouthernPeg said...

I have just seen an article about Kate cheating first on Jon on Charter.net. It states she possibly messed around with the personal trainer and the body guard. What will TLC possibly to cover up all of these scandals surrounding Jon and Kate.

Sidney said...

Let's say this affair crap is real and that they really will get divorced.

Who the heck whats to be pinned down with 8 kids for the next 15 or more years?

Neither Jon nor Kate wants their new lives to be hampered by all the little people that come with the divorce.

Kate "loves" what she is doing.

What is she doing?

Traveling, first class accomodations, spas, room service, expensive clothes, manicures with french nails, pedicures, and adoring fans, and a husband and children to make it all look legitimate, but the husband and children are far away.

What is Jon doing? Returning to his wild oats, drinking, driving a new car, girls, an affair...

Who wants to give all that up?

Dang! Those kids really are in the way!

NoCalMom said...

Check out this link, and support the Professor!

http://www.diariesoftheprofessor.com/

(The entry is called "Jon and Kate: Redux).

2badsosad said...

When I watched Larry King you would think the only kids she had were the Tups.

She states "we love our kids to pieces, they are safe, happy and healthy and their birthdays are coming up". She also says "we have had five wonderful years with eight children".

It would seem she only thinks of the Tups....oh right, they are the money makers. Without them where would she be.

This isnt the first time Kate has made reference to HER children speaking specifically to ONLY in terms of the tups. 'We have had 5 wonderful years with eight children'? I guess that 'perfect' life with the twins prior to the birth of her 6 little money makers is simply meaningless to HER life at this point.

mom of Twins said...

Everyone should e-mail the View to inform them about "Poor Kate" and tell them how nasty and self-centered she is.

BobDylan'sPosterboard said...

First-time poster/lurker here. I hope this has not already been said:

I would like to see J and K both scheduled and on their tall chairs on a set, all primped and orange and with a mic on, all ready to be interviewed for some fluff, not-an-interviewer, when instead that guy from To Catch a Predator sidles onto the stage and hops into the interviewer chair.

Shocked are J and K.

TCAP: So, you claim that your family is most important?
J/K: Of course!!

(Enter stage left - Jodi and Kevin, K's Dad, all the extended family and they all mic-up.)

TCAP: So, you are exhausted from caring from your 8 children?
J/K: Of course!!

(Enter stage left - The gaggle of not-a-nannies and they all mic-up.)

TCAP: So, you "have" to be on this book/speaking tour, promoting your books so your kids will "know" you love them?
J/K: Of course!!

(Enter stage left - Zon, the book publishers, and they mic-up.)

TCAP: So, you did not cheat with that young teacher Jon?
J/K: Of course not!!

(Enter stage left - DeDe and her brother, Loose Lips, sporting a video camera, camera phone, and Cole Hahn bag and they both mic-up.)

TCAP: So, you wrote that book all by yourselves?
J/K: Of course!!

(Enter stage left - Ms. Beth Carson and she mics-up.)

TCAP: So, you're good Christians and would never EVER tell a lie?
J/K: Of course!!

(Enter stage left - Cara and Mady, already all miced-up.)

**sign**

A person's gotta dream...

nanasez said...

I think the pics of Deanna Hummel in the bikini were taken outside of Jon's mothers's house when he was staying there in the pretense of helping his mother out bc of her recent surgery...Jon was "helping his mother" in early February. Way too cold for a bikini. According to the article, the bikini picture was taken April 28th, while Kate was on the road. Then again, when ISN'T she on the road?

Barb said...

I have a theory about Season 5's set. I bet they don't build a new one. This season will all be voice overs and separate interviews. Unless they show them at a marriage counselor's office. Then they will be sitting side by side.

SaNdY said...

Wonder if Kate will make it home on Sunday May 10 to see the tups on their 5th birthday....if not, I hope they will ALL get to eat a birthday cupcake THIS YEAR...

goawayJandK said...

It would seem she only thinks of the Tups....oh right, they are the money makers. Without them where would she be.

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Well, right now, she's "handling the situation in private" by doing a RECENTLY ADDED book signing in Arkansas.

Sal said...

I would not be surprised if Jon & Kate both carry credit cards with Mr. Gray name on them. It would be a step they take to keep people following what they spend and where they are.
I would think other celebs would do this also for privacy reasons.

Of course it would be hilarious if Jon took that purse out of Kate's stash and gave it to Babe!

Kate being away from her family even part of this weekend says it all for me.
She does not care for anyone but herself.

lisa said...

Debra thanks for the professors link- he DOES get it right when he says

"I know Kate lies.
I know Jon cheats.
And every time they collect a fee, they both steal."

end.of.story

ABC said...

Barb said...
I have a theory about Season 5's set. I bet they don't build a new one. This season will all be voice overs and separate interviews. Unless they show them at a marriage counselor's office. Then they will be sitting side by side.

Yes you are probably correct...
It will be presented more like LPBW,
and of course KON are producers according to Jon so they will have more input into what will be filmed. No stopping the gravey train.

Good thing they have all their memories on tape lest we forget what a cold, unfeeling human being she is. This last year she came off Bad,BAD, B A D!

=^..^= said...

XYZed said...

I've noticed that there is a distinct absence of Jon and Kate Plus Eight promos running on TLC. With a new season about to start one would expect their faces to pop up often throughout the progeamming day. When TLC promoted the vow renewal ceremony and also the "dramatic" bombshell episode at the end of last season, they were on at every turn.

omg, could our dreams finally be coming true?!? i've noticed this too! j&k promos are decidedly absent. and they are also now absent from the "summer" and "bringing family back" promos too. at first i was thinking it was just too early to tell, that the season doesn't start for another 2 weeks or so, so it would be too early to be running many promos for it, i guess only time will tell. but they were missing from the ads that had already been shown. perhaps there is something to this, tlc is kinda waiting and watching to see how things turn out before they start promoting the heck out of the new season. after all, j&k ARE their biggest show.

i know it's going to be really hard for a lot of people to not watch, but i think those who choose to watch for any signs or discussion of recent events will be disappointed. the way kate said it on larry king...that they won't be discussing any story in particular, only what she felt would be safe said to me they will gloss right over it. she's already said the only tv the kids were allowed to watch was their own show, so kate isn't going to address the rumors in an effort to further shield the kids from it.

ROFL said...

I sent TLC an e-mail telling them I have a great idea for a reality show. I explained they should do a reality show about a 23 year old school teacher who teaches on weekdays and on weekends has to take care of her boyfriends 8 kids. I said it could be a spin off show from the Gosselins and because Jon Boys new girlfriend is so photo-genic they could use her as I'm sure she's available. Anyway I hope to here back from them soon -- Maybe I could produce it or something?

RobandKimplus1 said...

I also have a theory about the new season, I think that over the season we will see the show taking a tilt toward Kate and away from Jon so that TLC can create a set-up for a new show called 'Kate Plus 8'. Kate LOVES being a victim (as another poster so beautifully stated) so she would absolutely RELISH the idea of her own show! She can become a single mom done wrong hero! She would then have completed kicking EVERYONE off the show but herself and the little money-makers. Also, the sheeple would be even more brainwashed and obsessed with this crazy woman.

I have long suspected that one of Kate's ambitions is to be to moms what Rachel Ray is to home cooks. I think she wants to create a 'Mom" empire and sell crap in Wal-mart and Target, etc.

What do y'all think? Any other predictions for Kate, Jon or the show???

scooterlibbypie said...

US Weekly has more coming. You can count on that. Just hold on and wait... Soon all will be revealed.

I wonder what the school has to say about Ms. Hummels behavior ie; sex tape that is so public now.

It just takes time. I don't wish Kate a bad life, I just wish she would stop.

pinkdiamond611 said...

Now that Steve's name is out there, whomever dug that up, WOW, I am wondering how long before someone in his life comes forward with information. I am really not following the logic why TLC would pay for him to be Kate's bodyguard when she is on a book tour that has nothing to do with TLC. Also, why does Kate need a bodyguard? Has their been threats to her life? Is she so wealthy that a huge randsom would be demanded? I can understand a bodyguard for the kids, but the kids are home, alone with the hired help.

Jon's Cheatin' Heart said...

Here's news flash: People have affairs ALL the time and DO NOT get a divorce. John and Elizabeth Ewards, Bill and Hilary Clinton, etc., etc.... I'm sure there are posters on here right now who have stayed in marriages even when their spouse had an affair.

Jon and Kate won't be getting a divorce.

SundayRose said...

During Kate's Larry King interview, she said she wrote "Eight Little Blessings" so her children would never have any doubts that she loved them. WTH? What mom makes that kind of a statement. I think she slipped on that comment because it makes no sense....it didn't benefit her in any way. And please Kate, for once just be honest. You wrote the book to make money, not for a means of ensuring your children would know you loved them. I really don't think she is capable of loving anyone but herself. I guess we got a chilling glimse into the cold-blooded mind of Kate.

Who Did What First said...

Michelle said...
"but the thing that I dont get is WHY would Jon be SO STUPID to think that he could have an affair and not get caught with him being in the public eye?"


I have a feeling what will come out of this is that Kate did have the affair with Mr. Grey or whomever. I guess Jon figured if she got away with it, he would too.

ROFL said...

MM2005 You forgots some:

Bitch

and

FAME WHORE

nanasez said...

Of course it would be hilarious if Jon took that purse out of Kate's stash and gave it to Babe!My alternative "fun" theory is that Jon bought DeDe the designer purse AND the designer shoes, then Kate found the shoes (but not the purse) and thought he'd bought them for her!

Annies said...

Being an evangelical Christian what I find sad on so many levels is that no one in the Christian world is speaking out or writing a balanced commentary on this mess. It could be done discussing both the pros and cons of the impact the show and the parent's behavior has had on the kids and will continue to do so in the absence of their parents while Kate is mostly on the road and although Jon is in town, he is seen galavanting all over Berks County.. The church and Christians in general are so hesitant to sound at all critical in this matter. No people it is not judging it is examining the bad fruit they bear. I don't see God in any of recent events.

3ts said...

We need to keep Steve Neild, aka Mr. Gray's name in the spotlight and the fact that his name is on that handbag receipt. Why and how would Jason Hummell, Babe's bro, have that with ole Mr. Gray's name. Jon and Kate need to explain that to their REALITY show fans.
Did Mr. Gray know about the affair too when he sent the handbag via FedEx to Dede Hummell? Maybe Mr. Gray doesn't mind doing all these extras because he gets paid $1600 a day and gets perks with Kate too.

ICSillyPeople said...

"Eight Little Faces" is not on any New York Times best Sellers List for the second week!

Jane in California said...

SundayRose said...
During Kate's Larry King interview, she said she wrote "Eight Little Blessings" so her children would never have any doubts that she loved them. WTH?I know! It sounds like she is aware that her children might not feel loved by her. But that would show some awareness of the feelings of others, so that can't be right.

SaNdY said...

SundayRose said...
During Kate's Larry King interview, she said she wrote "Eight Little Blessings" so her children would never have any doubts that she loved them. WTH? What mom makes that kind of a statement. I think she slipped on that comment because it makes no sense....it didn't benefit her in any way. And please Kate, for once just be honest. You wrote the book to make money, not for a means of ensuring your children would know you loved them. I really don't think she is capable of loving anyone but herself. I guess we got a chilling glimse into the cold-blooded mind of Kate

Hey Kate! Instead of going to all the trouble of writing a book so your kids don't ever doubt that you love them, just a thought, how about going home, spend some time with them and TELL THEM YOU LOVE THEM?? That's what most of us 'not-a-celebrity' moms do....what a liar she is...

me me me said...

I bet Jon isn't as spineless as the show suggests. It's kinda ironic that Kate is the one accused of loving the limelight when I think it's kinda obvious that Jon is the one that enjoys the attention and not Kate. I mean he's the one trolling bars looking for young girls.

The one thing I do worry about is how the kids will handle it once the show ends and the camera crew goes home. The behind the scenes episode really showed how attached the kids, especially the 'tups, are to the camera crew and producers. Maddy and Cara will probably be ok since they probably can remember life before the show. The 'tups have never known life when there isn't a camera crew. I certainly hope Jon and Kate have explained to them that their life isn't exactly typical right now and one day these people will not be part of their every day lives.

Abby said...

RobandKimplus1 said...
I have long suspected that one of Kate's ambitions is to be to moms what Rachel Ray is to home cooks. I think she wants to create a 'Mom" empire and sell crap in Wal-mart and Target, etc.

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Agreed. When the story first broke I wrote never underestimate Kate's ability to spin crap into gold. That's exactly what she's doing on Today, LKL, and Rachel Ray.

Everyone in Kate's life gets shoved aside to keep the spotlight solely on her. It was only a matter of time before she did it to Jon and the kids. The show, the books, the appearances...it's ALL ABOUT KATE. She wanted to be rich and famous. Jon and the kids were just the means to get her there.

Annies said...

Being an evangelical Christian what I find sad on so many levels is that no one in the Christian world is speaking out or writing a balanced commentary on this mess. It could be done discussing both the pros and cons of the impact the show and parent's behavior has had on the kids and will continue to do so in the absence of their parents nurturing. The Church and Christians in general are so hesitant to appear as if they are criticizing these two. No it is not "judging lest you be judged" it is an examination of the bad fruit they bear. Kate's recent appearances and in her books she always seems to mention how the Lord is providing all of these material things. I see it as her own neverending effort to be out there earning large amounts of money and elaborate lifestyle the Lord has little if nothing to do with it. She has forgotten what Jesus' ultimate gift and sacrifice was and it ain't money honey.

and the Lord said to the rich man--- “You fool, you chased after abundant riches in this world that you neglected the heavenly riches offered to you through Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross.”

Hey folks can I get an Amen?

Debra said...

Annies -

AMEN!!!!!!

stopthemadness said...

*LEAKED* JON GOSSELIN CAUGHT CHEATING (OF "JON & KATE PLUS 8")What the young crowd now seem to think of Jon and Kate. At least they aren't running to their talks anymore or wanting to take fertility pills to be "just like Kate".

Annies said...

Sorry guys my first post I sent inadvertently as it was unedited and incomplete-that is why there are two similiar posts by me.. The last one is my completed work on a Chrisitan viewpoint of recent J&K events.

Reading news said...

Annies said...

.....and the Lord said to the rich man--- “You fool, you chased after abundant riches in this world that you neglected the heavenly riches offered to you through Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross.”

Hey folks can I get an Amen?"

Annies,

A big AMEN to you from me. This paragraph is one that we all have to be reminded of once in awhile.

Reading news said...

Pinkdiamond611 said:

"Also, why does Kate need a bodyguard? Has their been threats to her life?"


maybe from Steve's wife.

nanasez said...

"The 'tups have never known life when there isn't a camera crew. I certainly hope Jon and Kate have explained to them that their life isn't exactly typical right now and one day these people will not be part of their every day lives."
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There's no way the little kids could even understand what that means. That's the sad part. One day, the show will over and there will be no camera crew. There will be no production people around. There won't be a handful, or more, extra bodies on trips. Heck, there probably won't be trips since there won't be someone other than Kon paying the way. There will be no more special tours at the zoo, or special meet and greets at events. No more preferred seating, no gift bags, no personalized jerseys from baseball games. There won't be baseball games, I'm sure. There won't be "special days" that each child spends alone with mom and dad. There won't be cooking lessons, music lessons, or anything of the type. There will only be an angry, bitter, resentful mother who doesn't want to be subjected to the "mundane" (as she put it) job of parenting. And a father who hasn't worked in so long he'll find it hard to get a job.

so irritated said...

A quote from Deanna Hummel's lastest denial in People

"I'm so hurt that he (her brother) put my occupation out there. He has put my job in jeopardy. I can't take my kids to recess without worrying that people will come up and harass me and the other teachers. It's not fair."While her brother did out she and Jon, the only person Babe has to blame for jeopardizing her career is Babe. What in the hell was she thinking getting involved with a married father of eight, let alone America's Favorite Dad??!! If she actually thought this would go unnoticed, she's a fool and probably shouldn't be a teacher. And by the way Babe, the only people who have the right to say "it's not fair" regarding this situation, is the kids.

SundayRose said...

JaneInCalifornia said...."I know! It sounds like she is aware that her children might not feel loved by her. But that would show some awareness of the feelings of others, so that can't be right."

Very perceptive of you, Jane, because Kate seemingly is incapable of having an awareness of feelings towards others. We've witnessed that so often on the show. Her stinging caustic remarks made directly to Jon and others, along with the sarcastic mocking comments she makes about her own children are quite unsettling. She tells Larry King that, but fails to see into the future and realize one day her kids will watch in horror as they listen to all of the hurtful things she has said about them in front of the camera.

chesterctymon said...

I wonder what this says about Mr. Gray's ability to 'serve and protect'. Afterall, he was assigned Kate Gosselin and not any of the other VIPs listed on the companys website!

www.prudentrisk.com

AnneMarie said...

Something that popped into my head today at work. The media and all it's happy happy sunshine shows, played up to the Kon's fluff pieces for 5 years. Riding the sunshine smiley train for all it was worth, after all who are they to deny us a heart warming story.

Now, we've been screaming from this site for a year to anyone that can read or answer their mail about the exploitation of those kids, all EIGHT of them, for nothing more than the ego runs and vanity parade parents, and NOT ONE outlet picked up on it.

Then comes the SEX scandle, and it's all over the news.

Exploit children, and ignore it.
Affairs, and extra martital boom chucka lunga, and scandle, and they eat it up.

They continue to ignore the kids and all that they've gone through and all the lies the parents have told and continue to spew.

You cannot hide the not-the-nannies, the chef, the landscapers, the new vehicles, the girlfriends, the shopping trips the gifts, the vacations, the mansion, private schools, plastic surgery...oh wait... I guess they can. As long as the media turns a blind eye to it, the Sheeple continue to go uneducated.

Shocking isn't it?

Sulmith said...

Gawker chimes in. Sorry if this has been posted already.

http://gawker.com/5247211/taking-the-jon-and-kate-bait-what-caused-the-fall-of-the-gosselin-dynasty

BaadBabe said...

Some one should ask Babe, aka DeDe, aka Deanna Hummell why Steve Neild's (aka Mr.Gray, aka 'Kate's bodyguard') name appears on the Cole Haan handbag receipt from the LA trip Jon took (post Mr. Chow) that was FedEx'd to her house? Babe should also explain how her brother would be in the position to supply this receipt to "US" magazine about her affair with Jon Gosselin.

Enough Already said...

Connie said...

Adults need other adults in their lives. Kate is gone so much, he probably would have hooked up with anybody that looked his direction.

He is lonely.

He is Mr Mom.

Kate is a shrew.

Jon needs to feel like there is someone out there that loves him just for him, not for Kate & the 8.


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Lots of people travel as part of their jobs. Is it okay for all their spouses to sleep with other people? Does this mean all those with spouses in Iraq and Afghanistan should be screwing around?

I am so tired of people justifying Jon's behavior, assuming the rumors are accurate. He chose to marry Kate. He chose to have children with Kate. If he's not happy in the marriage, he can choose to divorce Kate. There is no excuse for cheating.

SundayRose said...

Sandy said, "Hey Kate! Instead of going to all the trouble of writing a book so your kids don't ever doubt that you love them, just a thought, how about going home, spend some time with them and TELL THEM YOU LOVE THEM??
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Sandy, I agree with you. Home seems to be the last place Kate wants to be. Also, she told Larry King that it wasn't her goal to be on the NY Times Best Seller list, but notice how she got that plug in on both his show and The Today Show. She is a classic example of someone speaking in contradictory terms and logic. She exposed that same pattern when she told both shows about her family being inspirational to others, adding quickly that she thinks it's silly and doesn't see them as such. Ya sure, Kate.

ToTheMoonAlice said...

He cheates, she knows it, neither of them give a damn for the kids...I don't even why there is a question any more...do you?

marypoppins said...

I know the people on this forum know, but I hope other viewers figure out that episodes in May/June were recorded earlier in the year.

Melody said...

My 77 year old Aunt went to one of the book signings awhile back and afterward she declared that she was no longer a fan.

She said it was the WORST book signing she has EVER experienced. Aunt Janie said it looked like Kate didn't even want to be there and that she rarely smiles. She said it was like being in an assembly line.

Sara said...

Does anyone else think that BABE is going to speak up soon? Once the shock and hurt ware off, next comes the anger. What does she have to loose if Jon doesn't stick up for her? What if she does lose her job? A big paycheck from a magazine might be her ticket right out of town.

Mother of Two(couldn't afford more,so we stopped, unlike Kate) said...

The IRS does high-profile audits of actors, sports-figures, and so on to hold them up as examples. Many are demanding an IRS audit of octomom. Jon and Kate soooo need to be audited. Did they pay income tax on all the upgrades done to their very first house while the tups were wainting to come home from the hospital? Did they pay income tax on the free use of the condo in Hershey the family stayed at while the rennovations were being done to their first house? These were just a few of the things they recevied BEFORE tlc became involved, and the real gravy train started. Did Kate pay income tax on the now infamous tummy tuck? Jon on the hair-plugs? Income tax needs to be paid on gifts of goods or SERVICES. I can only imagine the ridiculous write-offs they must be claiming now. Any reader out there work for the IRS or know someone who does or how this works? There is a gigantic can of worms that needs to be opened, and it's not going to be pretty.

siliconmom said...

I just lived Kate's worst nightmare. My 3 year old got into a Costco sized jar of Skippy peanut butter. Covered herself from head to toe while I was in the shower and hubby was working outside.

Was it frustrating? Yes. Annoying? Yes. Did either of us scream? No. Did we berate each other? No.

Our first words were "Get the camera".

MM2005 said...

Several people have mentioned J&K+8 is TLC's number one rated show.

I just finished reading the book -- High Voltage Tattoo by Kat Von D. On the back inside cover it states "Kat Von D is a tattooer and the star of LA Ink, which has been the Learning Channel's number one rated program since it launched in 2007."

Tony said...

Annies--

Amen and Amen!!
Sobering isn't it?
Thank You.

ToTheMoonAlice said...

He cheats...She knows it...WHAT part of this don't you get?

marypoppins said...

I know couples who have wanted kids and have not been successful after many many years.
It kills me everytime i read that Kate struggled with infertility, or when through the heartache of infertility.

My other point is about the kids.
I hope that Maddy and Cara dont start blaming the younger ones for what happened. I hope that they dont feel like they have to "parent" the younger ones in the absence of their parents.

I wonder about Jodi and Beth. I do wonder if its true that they have no contact with the kids.

J and K- you guys really messed up!

Kate and 8 minus Jon said...

Our first words were "Get the camera".

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Rock on sister. Happy Mother's Day to a real mom.

realitybites said...

In the US Weekluy picture of Babe sun bathing supposedly at the KonPound, who is the other guy? IMO, it looks like her (Babe's) brother? If Babe detests and has so much distrust for her 'loser' brother, why would he be accompanying and chumming with her and Jon on an afternoon subathing excursion?

Maybe... said...

I think it was Deanna's cousin Katie Hummel who said there was speculation among the family for a little while that Deanna was dating Jon and they were concerned. Maybe that is the reason her brother had all the "evidence" (including the receipt) together. He obviously was going thru her things. He admitted to going in her room and seeing that she was looking for flights to Utah. I wouldn't be surprised if Deanna was acting really weird and the parents wanted Jason to try to get to the bottom of it.
I also noticed in one of the pictures that Deanna was wearing a cross. Not exactly Christian to go after a married man...

Nicole said...

MM2005,

I also just finished reading Kat Von D's book, High Voltage Tattoo. Excellent book by the way. Five stars all the way.

It ashame that Kate Gosselin doesn't know how to write a good book. Don't waste your money on Eight Exploited Faces. It's not worth it.

marypoppins said...

Melody said....."She said it was like being in an assembly line"
_______________________________
Think of what her kids feel like.

Everytime she did something for/with the kids, Kate had to look at the camera and let everyone know that she did it SIX times and she's exhausted.

I like aunt Jodi- she just did what she had to do with the kids without letting us know how many times she did what.

















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Mother of Two(wanted more, couldn't afford, so unlike Kate, we stopped) said...

For Not a Viewer looking for Kate's affectionate new nicknames:
since Kate loves to add "-ish" to the end of her words, and in honor of Kate for Mother's Day: please add "Joan Crawford-ish" - defintion: mean to children,(especially your own), demands respect, hates men, became a business woman, weird hair-do, good actress, won an Oscar for Best Actress in a Drama

Harriet said...

Two things I'd like to know more about. Did Kate really ask Zondervan for MORE book signing dates instead of going home to tend her children at this trying time and how long has TLC known the Gosselins were separated and yet continued to tout them as America's favorite family and pretend that they were still truly husband and wife?

RuthinVA said...

MM2005 said...
Several people have mentioned J&K+8 is TLC's number one rated show.

I just finished reading the book -- High Voltage Tattoo by Kat Von D. On the back inside cover it states "Kat Von D is a tattooer and the star of LA Ink, which has been the Learning Channel's number one rated program since it launched in 2007."

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If you put different adjectives in front of show all their shows can be number one depending on the adjective they use.

Mother of Two(couldn't afford more, so unlike Kate, we stopped) said...

Sorry,one more part I left off the definition of Joan Crawford-ish: loves organization and order in the home above all else (especially when it comes to the closets)

Knitted_in_the_Womb said...

Babe should also explain how her brother would be in the position to supply this receipt to "US" magazine about her affair with Jon Gosselin.I think that Deanne & her brother cooked up this whole thing, and the whole plan was for her to take the "innocent hoodwinked young school teacher" role while he takes the "slightly slimy brother willing to sell his sister out" role.

I think the brother took ALL of the pictures--Deanne sunbathing, Deanne & Jon leaving the club --which, BTW, you can't see Jon's ring finger, and yet it is always said that he doesn't have the ring on...I really think if there was photographic evidence of no ring, the ring finger would be showing (with a big red circle photo-shopped on to highlight it), which really makes me doubt the "no wedding ring" claim. As for the video...again, definitely filmed from inside the house to get the angle...so it was the brother...and he could have easily re-set the clock on his video camera to produce a false time stamp--its not necessarily a 7:30 a.m. "walk of shame." Come on...why bother "sneak" out of the house if your car is parked out front? There is possibly a logical explaination for why he didn't exit via the front door that doesn't involve an affair.

They are both laughing their way to the bank with the money they got from selling those pictures. Yeah...they didn't get paid for talking, but you'd better believe they got paid for the pictures!

Did Jon have an affair? There isn't even a picture of Jon *touching* Deanne, let alone being intimate, so there is still the possibility that he didn't. I think that it is highly likely that he DID have an affair, I'm just saying, there is a possibility that he didn't.

I do think that his behavior of going out bar hopping is intentionally designed to irritate Kate and get her attention.

Knitted_in_the_Womb said...

Our first words were "Get the camera".LOL! My grandmother taught me the same philosophy...wish she'd taken pictures when my cousin (2 months older than me), my sister (1 year older than me) and myself decided to play "beauty parlor" and liberally applied Vaseline to our waist length hair. We certainly heard lots of stories about it...thus how we knew we were loved, NOT by my grandmother trotting around the countryside doing book signings. And trust me, she could have written a GREAT book about her life as a mother of 5, grandmother of 8 and great-grandmother of 11 (3 more ggc's have been born since she died).

Aunt Chris said...

siliconmom said...
I just lived Kate's worst nightmare. My 3 year old got into a Costco sized jar of Skippy peanut butter. Covered herself from head to toe while I was in the shower and hubby was working outside.

Was it frustrating? Yes. Annoying? Yes. Did either of us scream? No. Did we berate each other? No.

Our first words were "Get the camera".

(giggling) Happy Mother's Day!

Ruth said...

I haven't seen anyone posting yet about the most, to me, glaring statement that both J and K have said.

"The kids are the most important thing, we love them very much, they are our focus" etc

what is the most common thing that parents stress to children during a divorce/seperation/marital turmoil? That the kids are loved and that it is not their fault. J & K have not said that they love each other at any point during all of this, but they keep stressing how much they love their kids and that the kids are being taken care of....

MM2005 said...

Nicole said...
MM2005,

I also just finished reading Kat Von D's book, High Voltage Tattoo. Excellent book by the way. Five stars all the way.

It ashame that Kate Gosselin doesn't know how to write a good book. Don't waste your money on Eight Exploited Faces. It's not worth it.

Nicole,

Oh, no need to worry about me spending a penny or wasting my time on ELM. I would never endorse the exploitation of those children by buying a Gosselin book.

I so agree with you that High Voltage is a five star book -- and a perfect example of how someone who is NOT a writer can create a book that is an HONEST reflection of themselves. As a reader, I also appreciate the obvious time and care that went into crafting that book, unlike Kate's which looks like someone threw it together over a weekend.

wishiwasbornyesterday said...

Knitted in the Womb--
Well, that could be believable until it was discovered that Kate's bodyguard, Steve Neild's name is on the receipt for the expensive handbag the brother turned over to "US" magazine. Jason Hummell didn't even realize that or even the mag.; someone from one of the blogs figured it out. Good for them. Odds are Jon wouldn't have the bodyguard charge and FedEX the purse to this young woman unless something hinky was going on.

http://hollywoodspotlite.com/scanned/6.jpg

MM2005 said...

RuthinVA said...
MM2005 said...
Several people have mentioned J&K+8 is TLC's number one rated show.

I just finished reading the book -- High Voltage Tattoo by Kat Von D. On the back inside cover it states "Kat Von D is a tattooer and the star of LA Ink, which has been the Learning Channel's number one rated program since it launched in 2007."

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If you put different adjectives in front of show all their shows can be number one depending on the adjective they use.
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RuthinVA
You are correct, but it grew tiresome hearing about "their top rated show." There are other successful shows on TLC -- J&K+8 do not own the network, it won't fail without their show.

Stephanie said...

I come here and read through from time to time. not a regular. I have one question that may have been asked before but I haven't seen it.

am i the only one who thinks that school has got to be an absolute nightmare for the twins?

From what Ive seen, this family is not particularly well-liked by the people in their part of PA. It seems to me that, with their fame, it would be HIGHLY unlikely that not a single kid in their class comes to school with nasty things to say that they picked up from their parents and/or tabloids.
Parents talk, kids listen, and kids can be horrible. it seems inevitable.
Doubly so if they're in separate classrooms.
Geez, no wonder Mady seems pissed off all the time. She's probably getting a rotten time from kids at school, and then she comes home to cameras and boom mics and the little brothers and sisters that she probably cant help but blame for the mess that is her life. Even if it's a subconscious resentment, it almost has to be there.
That poor little girl is a ticking time-bomb. She's gonna have a mental breakdown before she hits puberty.

Exhausted said...

The sad part is that these children won't even have each other to commiserate with someday when they realize how rotten their parents are. Kate and Jon have made sure (in between extensive travelling and bar-hopping) to alienate them all from each other...the twins from the tups, the boys from the girls, Alexis from everyone. I hope they can find their way back together as these parents have done nothing to nurture close sibling relationships.

Nicole said...

What I would like to know is why does Kate feel the need to have a bodyguard? I wonder if she has had any threats made against herself in the past or maybe she is in fear of some crazy fan (I won't mention her name, but you know who I mean.)

Alice Bluegown said...

Kate has said the only tv the kids were allowed to watch was their own show, so Kate isn't going to address the rumors in an effort to further shield the kids from it.

It must be fun for those kids to see the crap they have already experienced.

There are a lot of things they shouldn't be reminded of.

I know I have done things I would rather forget.

Vicki said...

This site opened my eyes when I went searching to try to figure out what I was seeing on the reality show...was it just me, or was something going on that wasn't right with this couple and this family? If I was investing my time in watching the show (and, yes, I'd even bought the Multiple Blessings book), I needed to get a different take on who they were other than what was just being presented to me from that program.

What I found was GWOP and non-TV moms who post here with intelligent comments written out of true concern for the Gosselin children, and I salute you because tomorrow is your day, Happy Mother's Day to all.

Jennifer A. said...

1) did anyone notice how covered up Kate was on the Today Show? No low cut dresses and platform shoes. Cleavage be gone!
2)my husband and I have been talking about JonKategate because I'd like to write a book about my son's disability someday (he has SPD and a list of other things). I do plan to write it for him, but also for other moms/dads so they don't feel alone when their doctor calls them a neurotic freak because they keep asking questions. And yes, mine did. But I say now and if I ever get on the Today show, the book is for him and for the public. also I would actually write a book with my degree in English, not publish a scrapbook.
3) If Jon and Kate were private people, an open marriage would be weird but a private matter. Since they call themselves "Christians" in the media, this is a field day for the press. I don't have an open marriage, I do know people who do and its their choice.
4)Kate has grown tired of slapping Jon and has moved on to Emeril in season 5, per the preview I saw on the website. I'm sorry, but if Emeril was cooking in my kitchen, I would not be wacking him with a silicone spatula, no matter how bad Emeril's joke was. After I saw the preview, I had to take my migraine meds and lie down.

shmedelle said...

Aunt Chris said...
siliconmom said...
I just lived Kate's worst nightmare. My 3 year old got into a Costco sized jar of Skippy peanut butter. Covered herself from head to toe while I was in the shower and hubby was working outside.

Was it frustrating? Yes. Annoying? Yes. Did either of us scream? No. Did we berate each other? No.

Our first words were "Get the camera".

(giggling) Happy Mother's Day
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Good for you. My 3 yr old little trooper had two brain surgeries in the last 3 weeks. ( she is doing great!) But,boy does that put things into perspective!

Normal moms care way more about their kid's. Not stuff.

Anything can happend to anyone at anytime.

Kate Gosselin, you have a lot to learn my dear. and I hope it doesn't take a tragety for you to learn that.

Anonymomma said...

Just wanted to take a break from the banter and gve a little shout out to all of the mothers out there. Happy Mother's Day, Ladies!
Whether you have your own children, teach children, work in a daycare, or even a pediatric floor, you're a mom. And you are appreciated. Mom's make the world go round!

I hope you all have a fantastic day!

Momof2boys said...

I sincerely hope that "someone" does something special for the tups tomorrow on their birthday. I have a nephew born on Mother's Day (as is his bday this year) and it is probably a hard thing for kids to balance. I, as a mom, would pass up anything about myself to make the kids feel as special as anyone should feel on their birthday! So sad to even think that they may not be surrounded by their extended family celebrating it with them - now more than ever when they just need to be "normal" kids!

Kathryn said...

Aunt Jodie and Beth: If you're out there and reading this blog, I just want to wish you both a wonderful Mother's Day!! You are what REAL mother's should be: loving, sweet, patient, and kind.
I miss seeing you and wish you all the best. Both of you are a true class act

Former Fan said...

Here is some fun reading as to the identity of Mr. Grey aka "The Bodyguard"

http://sixgosselins.blogspot.com/

http://www.prudentrisk.com/staff.html

Lilo said...

Gawker, a snarky NY media blog, very geared at under 40s, urbanites, etc.

http://gawker.com/5247211/taking-the-jon-and-kate-bait-what-caused-the-fall-of-the-gosselin-dynasty

Anonymomma said...

Schmedelle, hang in there. I'll say a little prayer tonight for your family : )

Hambone said...

Do you think Kate feels she needs a bodyguard because she receives death threats?

I'm sure if she did, she'd never reveal that publicly because then it would make her look even worse for not stopping the show and putting her kids in harms way. Makes me wonder, because I've heard he make mention that the kids are "safe" a few times now. Why would she need to say that?

Come to think of it, if Octomom's PR agent received death threats, why wouldn't Kate? I think it's terrible if it's true, that people would be so psycho to do something like that, but also very irresponsible of her to keep doing the show anyway and putting her kids in any inkling of danger.

BMWoP said...

Nicole said...
What I would like to know is why does Kate feel the need to have a bodyguard? I wonder if she has had any threats made against herself in the past or maybe she is in fear of some crazy fan (I won't mention her name, but you know who I mean.)

5/09/2009 7:30 PM

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LOL ! She doesn't know it, but when she went to Kate's booksigning last week, they saw her coming and the walkie talkies were flying with "Here's she comes!" There was a SWAT team located behind fiction, one behind non-fiction, and all around the joint in case *she* lost control and attacked Kate for rejecting her love advances. Everything turned out cool, though. Once she left the building, Kate and her posse breathed a sigh of relief and they had a grand time talking about what a freak she is for a solid hour.

Oh hell. I'm just kiddin'. I better say I'm kidding ( as if ya'll didn't know ) because this looneybird will be posting on her blog that everybody here thought it was true. I imagine when she was in 3rd grade, she was *the one* who cried constantly on the playground because no one wanted to play with her. If only she was more like Kate back then, she would have just been so uber-cool and loved by all. Instead, she grew up to be a sociopath stalker.

Jen K said...

Since the receipt might play a heavy role in the next stories coming from the tabs (there are already rumblings that this week will reveal even more information) it might be interesting to note that Kate wore white Cole Haan wedges on April 2nd at the Nashville Southern Women's Show.

In what can only be described as a fashion disaster (black skirt and white shoes) her outfit sparked discussion and her shoes were remarked by some as "hooker shoes". :)

Perhaps purchased at Cole Haan the same day the infamous bag was purchased, which would have been March 25th or so?

Knitted_in_the_Womb said...

Well, that could be believable until it was discovered that Kate's bodyguard, Steve Neild's name is on the receipt for the expensive handbag the brother turned over to "US" magazine. Jason Hummell didn't even realize that or even the mag.; someone from one of the blogs figured it out. Good for them. Odds are Jon wouldn't have the bodyguard charge and FedEX the purse to this young woman unless something hinky was going on..

I think that Jon entered some sort of a relationship with Deanna willingly--but I just suspect that she and her brother may have seized upon the situation--even pushed the relationship.

The whole thing of even sending the receipt seems odd--wasn't Jon ever taught that it is RUDE to let your gift recipient see the price of the gift? I certainly know that it is now considered polite to include a *gift* receipt in case your recipient wants to exchange the gift...but the real receipt?

Tacky...

But...still doesn't prove an affair. Could just be a sign of someone who is trying to buy friendship, or simply showing off his wealth. I've gotten gifts from male friends (although not since I got married, and certainly not that expensive. But I don't have friends that make as much money as the Gosselins do).

Or we could go with the whole theory that Jon & Kate have manufactured this whole thing as a publicity stunt.

Wendy said...

I'm really interested in this tidbit: Did Kate Gosselin really make the tape of her watching the kids (the day in the life of her family when she was saying that no it's not glamorous) as an audition tape to get a reality show? Is it true? So interesting if it is.

blueyedangel1207 said...

I sincerely hope that "someone" does something special for the tups tomorrow on their birthday. I have a nephew born on Mother's Day (as is his bday this year) and it is probably a hard thing for kids to balance. I, as a mom, would pass up anything about myself to make the kids feel as special as anyone should feel on their birthday! So sad to even think that they may not be surrounded by their extended family celebrating it with them - now more than ever when they just need to be "normal" kids!

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I hope the same thing for those kids.

My DD's birthday is New Year's Eve. Once she was born we no longer went out and partied but made it more about her and her special day. She's only little once before she's old enough to realize what fun she can have on this day so I will cherish each and every moment I have now.

Wendy Bird said...

Kate was in Arkansas on the 9th for a crook signing, and will be appearing on the 700 Club on the 11th. Unless she is doing the 700 Club interview via satellite, she will be in Virginia Beach on Monday ("Money Monday" according to their calendar, HA!) www.cbn.com/700club/ShowInfo/Schedule/index.aspx

I don't think that she will be home for more than a few hours at the most for Mother's Day and the sextuplet's birthday, if she even goes home at all.

Jimmy said...

Schmedelle-
Anything can happend to anyone at anytime.

Kate Gosselin, you have a lot to learn my dear. and I hope it doesn't take a tragety for you to learn that.
-----------------------------------First of all, you and your family are in my prayers.

Also--I have often thought this too and wish Kate would come out of her fog and realize how suddenly things can change.

ICExploitation said...

I don't think that she will be home for more than a few hours at the most for Mother's Day and the sextuplet's birthday, if she even goes home at all.She'll go - there's a show to be taped remember? She has memories to create.

Mother of Two(couldn't afford more, so we stopped, unlike Kate) said...

TLC: to call it The Learning Channel is absurd and an insult to one's intelligence! More like...The Liars Channel....or Those Low-life Cheaters...or... something more appropriately describing the Gosselins.

Mother of Two(couldn't afford more,so we did the logical thing and stopped, unlike Kate) said...

Another common meaning for TLC is Tender Loving Care. It would be a crime to associate Kate and Jon Gosselin with the words Tender, or Loving, or Care.

Moons in Leo said...

http://gawker.com/5247211/taking-the-jon-and-kate-bait-what-caused-the-fall-of-the-gosselin-dynasty

Don't know if you've seen this yet. Gawker is very, very sarcastic. Love 'em!

Kris said...

I just finished reading a wonderful article on ABCNews.com entitled: "Successful women credit mothers influence"

Kate, if you are reading this comment, please go over to the article (link below) and read it many many times. Cara, Mady, Leah, Alexis and Hannah will thank you.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Economy/story?id=7540386&page=1

beachluvin said...

The whole thing of even sending the receipt seems odd--wasn't Jon ever taught that it is RUDE to let your gift recipient see the price of the gift? I certainly know that it is now considered polite to include a *gift* receipt in case your recipient wants to exchange the gift...but the real receipt?
Tacky.
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Jon....tacky? Nah! LOL!!! They are both the king and queen of tacky!
Remember "coupon-gate?" There is a drawer in the kitchen where they keep their receipts... Didn't DeDe mention that they go to each others homes? Maybe the brother tagged along once and he stole the receipt from the drawer.

Aunt Chris said...

Schmedelle, God Bless you and your little one and have a fabulous Mother's Day, and every other day, too!

overwithKON said...

I was just at the grocery store and saw Kate's very top secret red white and blue cake recipe. It was in a kit, all ready to be made for Mother's day or Memorial day. LOL! I just love how Kate makes these ultra simple foods and acts like heaven opened up and God himself came down and gave the recipe to her, and she should make us all jealous! LOL! I cant wait for the cook book! GAG!

Oh and Happy Mother's Day to all of us real mothers!

ratherbkayaking said...

It just struck me that I sorta agree with Khate saying she's not a celebrity. It's much like the difference between being famous and infamous. (JFK is famous - Hitler is infamous).

The celebrities that I have respect for spend a whole lot of money keeping certain moments out of the public purview. The Gosselins have made a lot of money by purposely displaying these private moments for all the viewing world to see - fecal disimpactions, verbal castrations of the spouse, pictures of first potty poops, etc. So Khate is correct - she's not a celebrity. She's incelebrity.

How sad for the kids that this is her legacy. Well, there's her other legacy: the incelebrity Octomom - the multiple-child-commodities reality-show wanna-be.

OriginalThoughts said...

Just caught the previews for the shows starting on or around Memorial Day...they called the show
Kate plus.....no Jon intresting!!!

Ava's Mommy said...

Since Kate’s new child is this book tour and spends time avoiding her children/Jon. Makes me wonder does she talk to them at all? Maybe she possibly travel with a webcam so she can see her kids on the road. Let not forget she probably carries around her 2 books. So she can open them up and reminisce over that good old days. Then we have her show playing on TV. I guess if she ever misses them that much she can just tune in and watch.
I really cannot see Kate taking a redeye back to see her kids minus Jon. I cannot see Kate with jetlag trying to take care of her kids. The only time I can see Kate home is when the crew is there. Even then when Kate is home she is working, scheduling, phone calls, emails, shopping, tanning, spa treatments, exercising, journaling and sleep. Maybe she does get a few min at a time with each other kid. But every time you turn around Kate is promoting something or complaining. That woman is never happy and has turned into this sham of fake “mommy”. People are fouls to book this woman for a book signing tour. Look at Many others authors who write inspiring insightful books. They don’t go on tour “forever” to promote their masterpieces. Either they go to a few places or use a pen-name. Those authors have class and dignity. Kate doesn’t…Her books couldn’t even sell if she wasn’t pushing them on to people who see her.

Look how much she contradicts her self. I wrote these 2 books so my kids have something to relate to. I didn’t care if they sold one copy or two. I’m so flattered that they sold so many copies. That’s because you push and push Kate. You will never stop this book tour. Since the cook book is coming up in the Fall she will be at this all over again. I ask myself for what cost does Kate do this? Every child needs a mother doesn’t matter what age. Distancing your children away from yourself is going to make them withdraw.

It seems that the whole family thrive over the cameras in their face. What will happen when the cameras just stop?

Konfounded said...

Mother of Two(couldn't afford more,so we stopped, unlike Kate) said...

The IRS does high-profile audits of actors, sports-figures, and so on to hold them up as examples. Many are demanding an IRS audit of octomom. Jon and Kate soooo need to be audited. Did they pay income tax on all the upgrades done to their very first house while the tups were wainting to come home from the hospital? Did they pay income tax on the free use of the condo in Hershey the family stayed at while the rennovations were being done to their first house?


While I've never been one to defend either of those grifters, I do remember when Jon would whine and beg err... I mean post on the Triplet Connection boards, he would complain err.. I mean mention getting 1099s for "free" merchandise & services. This came up when another family with sextuplets received an Extreme Home Makeover. All his groupies at the Triplet Connection said Kon should have gotten one. Jon said he didn't care and was not jealous because he didn't want to pay taxes on a home like that. I don't know if Kon had applied for the show, but I wouldn't put it past them. A family in my area appplied to E. H. Makeover after their son had his hands and feet amputated due to a deadly staph infection. E. H. M. did send a crew here to follow them for a weekend but were eventually turned down because the family had already received overwhelming community support, monitarily and help renovating their home- just as Kon did when the tups were born.

puddytats said...

Gayle King on XM was talking about Kate on Friday. She kept talking about how much she liked her because she likes the way that she is handling the situation with her "cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater" of a husband.

I promptly left a post on her message board to google this sight and find out about the "real" Kate before she declares her admiration for this woman.

I can't stand the way people defend her. UGH!

Scruffy's Mom said...

Reality Bites asked ...In the US Weekly picture of Babe sun bathing supposedly at the KonPound, who is the other guy?


Looks like Kenny Chesney to me! :) Wowsa!! Not there's one hot dude!

KaitiebugandBrayBray'smommy said...

Okay couple of comments today,
1.Happy Birthday tups!
2.Kate must be livid to have to share her " special day ' her breakfast in bed , her sleeping in her spa day tommorow all that jazz with the tups just livid. She must be so terribley(sp)
upset that she has to share what should be all hers! I sort of have a vision of her in my head jumping up and down stomping her feet going no fair no fair my day my day!
3. Is Kate even home? I read on another on here some where ( not sure where )she had a book signing yesterday.
4.I was reading the Larry King blog. One blogger state the girls are very aware of the situation and are probably going to transpher(sp) school before the end of the year because of it.
5. Happy Mother's Day to everyone who works so hard to make this blog special. To the Mods, writers, readers, recappers, and commenters Happy Mothers Day and thank You!

Oh and sorry for my bad spelling and typing Brayden has been sick!

met said...

orignial thoughts said "Just caught the previews for the shows starting on or around Memorial Day...they called the show
Kate plus.....no Jon intresting!!!"

That is interesting. I can't pull up the new shows on the website, but if that is the case...hooray for Jon. (even though he is probably the most pathetic man I have ever seen). Next I hope it's Kate and her six.

BMWoP said...

Really Jon and Kate. Did you actually think it was possible to put your lives out in public on a reality show, act like complete asses and miserable banchees all the time, and think no one would speak and write about it and come to loathe you two boneheads?

What planet do you live on? You get talked about in tabloids and blogs because of your pathetic behavior and wild spending of your children's money. Not because people are jealous.

You wish.

Stop your lies. Stop your deceit. Stop your cheating. Stop your holier-than-thou act and get your kids off the airwaves and repair their lives. You two do not deserve the gifts of children you've been given.

stunned said...

Don't know how long it's been offered, but I noticed today itunes is giving away one free J&K and Roloff episode download. Looks like the free download is popular, but not so much the others.

Must be part of the marketing scheme for the upcoming seasons.

Happy Birthday Tups! said...

Well, I guess today is the 'tups' 5th birthday. Happy birthday, Alexis, Leah, Aaden, Hannah, Collin and Joel! I hope your getting at least some kind of attention from Mommy Dearest today...

Reading news said...

Mother of Two(couldn't afford more, so unlike Kate, we stopped) said...
"Sorry,one more part I left off the definition of Joan Crawford-ish: loves organization and order in the home above all else (especially when it comes to the closets)"

No way did Kate resemble Joan C. in this way. Do you remember the episode where Jon was in the closet supposedly answering questions that had been submitted. I thought to myself that I if was Kate I would have never allowed anyone to see the inside of my closet if it looked like that and there they were showing it to the whole viewing public. She isn't at all neat and definitely doesn't suffer from OCD. I think for the most part their home has always been a shambles and I don't care how many times she said she washed the kitchen floor. She is too busy making up lies to find time for cleaning. She is despicable.

Amy said...

Here's an article from E! Entertainment http://www.eonline.com/. Interesting that they said based on Jon's wages that child support would be on a sliding scale. But Jon doesn't have have a job.

Harriet said...

Here's a direct link to the article:
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/ask_the_answer_bitch/b123075_how_would_child_support_work_jon_kates.html

Jon has a job working for TLC right now. It may not be a job he wants or he may not have it too much longer though.

beachluvin said...

I have ONE question.....why didn't, Meredith, Rachael Ray, Larry King or even the tabloids ask WHO AND WHERE BETH CARSON is, the co-author of one of the books Kate Gosselin is pushing all over the country?
Didn't a Zondervan representative say that Kate wanted to do more book signings? Can someone please ask Zondervan why in the world the CO-author of the book is NOT involved......why isn't Beth at the book signings? I think she could sell more books than Kate at this point!

It just seems so strange that NO ONE ever brings up Beth. The only time she was even mentioned was when Robin Robberts of GMA added that Beth was a co-author to which Kate responded, "yes she is" which was even before the book hit the stands and Kate was trying to push her stupid meatloaf recipe.

I wonder if Gayle King would still admire Kate if she knew how she treated the co-author of her best selling book or if Larry King would call her "noble". Why don't they ask her what she is doing for "her" mother today? Just once, someone needs to ask Kate a few good questions like the pap photographer in the TMZ video did.......

realitybites said...

OriginalThoughts said...
Just caught the previews for the shows starting on or around Memorial Day...they called the show
Kate plus.....no Jon intresting!!!

So TLC is now promoting what was the J & K + 8 show as the Kate Plus show? Evidently, Kate did accomplish her goal of having HER OWN show!!! Like no one saw that one coming.

Sal said...

Who wants to watch Kate Plus 8? I sure don't.
Maybe Jon will grow some balls and in backing away from the show will actually see the damage being done to his children, and finally step up and stop the craziness.

jen said...

Why does everyone keep assuming Jon would pay child support/alimony? If Kate makes more than Jon, she'd have to pay HIM alimony. It's not always the ex-husband supporting the ex-wife. And Kate is not slowing down her "non-celebrity" circus anytime soon, so I am betting she would have to pay him money.

I'd love to see the look on her face if that ever happens.

Annies said...

Jennifer said:

did anyone notice how covered up Kate was on the Today Show? No low cut dresses and platform shoes. Cleavage be gone!

Yes, but the first thing my hubby commented on was how short the skirt was she wore on the Today Show which she has been seen in a very short skirt at Church also. Wonder if they went today?

gasmom said...

After seeing Kate's interviews this past week, I was struck with how much Kate is not only trying to do damage control over Jon's infidelity-ish, but also at how she is trying to keep on defending "her" show. It appears that her PR people have prepped her to respond to the most common criticisms that keep coming up:

(1) Argument: Jon and Kate don't have jobs. Kate's response: the show is the HARDEST job ever. They are constantly working. They work all the time, and have deadlines, calls, interviews, and more. No time off except for those fleeting moments getting the old skunk stripes freshened. It's so EXHAUSTING to have a reality show. Yet...
(2) Argument: The kids are working. Kate: The kids have NO IDEA what's going on. They're just living their lives. Would be doing photo shoots in winter clothes in July, with or without the show.
(3) Argument: The parents knew what problems the show could cause and how it would affect the children. Kate: This was not foreseeable at all. They had no idea this kind of publicity would happen. Yet...the paparazzi was to be expected and that's just part of it.
(4) Argument: this is damaging to the kids. Kate: They will "deal with it privately" and (vaguely) address these problems on the show. In fact, Mady and Kara are most definitely not affected, because they go to private school. (Who knew the power of private school? I'm so there...) The kids are LOVED, and are usually almost always (i.e., never) with one of the parents. In other words...the show continues.
(5) Argument: he cameras are intrusive. Kate: Nope, they're just family members with cameras. Yeah, my Uncle Edd always follows us around with mikes and cameras, and especially loves to capture my kids' bowel movements. :)

There were lots of other little gems from Stands with a Scowl, but those were the ones that stood out. I thought her defensiveness was really interesting, and it appears that someone "on the other side" is really doing their GWOP-reading. In terms of her coming off subdued, I didn't see that. I think she is a little embarassed that their facade of the "perfect family" is wearing thin, but other than that she totally threw Jon under the bus, and took zero responsibility for anything the family is going through now. Same old Kate.

3ts said...

Don't know if this has been posted:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1727832/jon_and_kate_plus_eight_bodyguard_revealed.html?cat=39

Siliconmom said...

First off, Happy Mom's Day!!!

If Oprah owns TLC, that's why people don't want to push the hard questions with Kate. No one wants to go up against Oprah. She's very powerful. And they're not sure how this will turn out so they're playing it safe.

If Mr. Grey did by the handbag then either Jon regifted something Kate had sent Grey to purchase or Grey knows about Jon's lover and sent the bag for him (more likely if he was the one to arrange the FedEx). If he's covering for Jon, then it will be interesting to see how long Kate keeps him around although it could be that Kate had the bag sent as a way to set up Jon. That just occurred to me.

I think Mr. Grey was probably hired originally to protect the family on trips, the argument being that the kids are targets because of their exposure. Since Kate's the only one taking trips now she's the only one who needs coverage.

I suspected they'd keep the show running as Kate + 8.

I just feel icky about the whole thing. I didn't watch last season because I decided that I didn't want to sacrifice an hour of my life on them, especially with five kids. That hour can be much better spent elsewhere. I won't watch this summer for the same reason. And I really hope other people do the same. If the show has no watchers the advertisers won't buy ad time and tlc loses revenue.

Abby said...

Reading news said...
Do you remember the episode where Jon was in the closet supposedly answering questions that had been submitted. I thought to myself that I if was Kate I would have never allowed anyone to see the inside of my closet if it looked like that and there they were showing it to the whole viewing public. She isn't at all neat and definitely doesn't suffer from OCD. I think for the most part their home has always been a shambles and I don't care how many times she said she washed the kitchen floor.

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I totally agree. I've never believed Kate has OCD or is uber organized. Her bed's never made, the basement was always trashed, not to mention the full potty chairs sitting all day or the van with the dried pee and food all over. I think her organization is greatly exaggerated too... on all the trips she just falls apart, kids screaming, she never knows what she's doing or where she's going...and that's with several adults helping her! Kate is not a neat freak or organized...she has OTHERS clean and organize things for her. I know my Mom managed to run a household with 7 kids and NO HELP and Mom and Dad took us camping and managed fine without any "helpers" along. It's called parenting. Today of all days I thank God my mom is not Kate Gosselin! We didn't have the mansion, millions, and freebies but I wouldn't trade my childhood for anything.

THANK YOU MOM!!!!!

J said...

Has this been posted yet?

http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Kate+plus+plus+tape+scandal+ratings+grab/1578058/story.html

Rachel said...

Anyone else see this?

7 Reasons I Admire Kate Gosselin

http://www.lilsugar.com/3131268

sandyeggo06 said...

I keep thinking back to the Hawaii trip when they renewed their vows. I remember Kate telling the kids that they were going to be together forever, no matter what. It's ironic that she made that statement, and soon after is when it all started going down hill. I saw a video of Jon leaving Deanna's house at 7:30 in the morning, posted on Perez Hilton's site. Jon left through the back door, trying to hide himself from the public. I think if he were a happy husband who felt loved and cherished he wouldn't be straying from home. I would like to see Kate answer the question, "Are you in love with Jon?" I wonder how she could pussy foot around that question. It would be great to know if she got a list of questions before she went on these interviews, you know, so her P.R. person could tell her how to answer, without really answering the question. It wouldn’t shock to at all if her people “stocked the pond” with the questions she is willing to answer.

This whole mess is heart breaking to me. Those kids probably feel so insecure. Mommy and Daddy are all the kids really know, and when they aren't getting along or together it feels like the whole world is falling apart to them. Kate and Jon should feel ashamed, but I know they don't. If they did, things would be done differently. Money can’t buy happiness and Kate will eventually find that out. I wonder if her parents feel disappointed in the way she has turned out. As for Jon, I know he is wrong for fooling around and I’m sure deep down he knows he is wrong. But how long can a person keep going being neglected the way she neglects him? She is as cold as a witch’s tit in a brass bra in the middle of December. She doesn’t have a warm bone in her body. She is to blame for this whole disaster.

jen said...

Rachel said...
Anyone else see this?

7 Reasons I Admire Kate Gosselin

http://www.lilsugar.com/3131268
I would like the meet that Kate Gosselin, the one on my TV is the exact opposite.

blueyedangel1207 said...

It would be great to know if she got a list of questions before she went on these interviews, you know, so her P.R. person could tell her how to answer, without really answering the question.

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I believe she did get a list of questions in advance. Or was at least filled in on what they were going to ask.

When the Duggars went on the Today Show (or maybe it was The View) a person went through with them what the ladies of The View were going to ask.

allicat said...

Kate is at home today. She was just spotted at the local grocery store by a friend. The paparazzi were close behind! At least she is in the same town as her kids. It's so funny for all of us to see paparazzi in our town.

UGH! said...

Gayle King on XM was talking about Kate on Friday. She kept talking about how much she liked her because she likes the way that she is handling the situation with her "cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater" of a husband.

I promptly left a post on her message board to google this sight and find out about the "real" Kate before she declares her admiration for this woman.

I can't stand the way people defend her. UGH!

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Of course Gayle King is going to support Jane and K8. She has been riding on Oprah's coattails for years, and she has to go along with her own gravy train, and Oprah is a KON supporter because I believe she now is owner/part owner of Discover Health, which owns TLC.

lalaland said...

This is an excellent article, drawing the comparison to the Dionne quints.

http://www.canada.com/News/danger+commodifying+children/1248706/story.html

saywhat said...

"Gayle King on XM was talking about Kate on Friday. She kept talking about how much she liked her because she likes the way that she is handling the situation with her "cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater" of a husband."

Aside from Kate's media appearances on the Today Show and Larry King Live, what personal insight does Gayle King have as to how Kate is 'handling the situation'. Handling a 'situation' in terms of appeasing the public and media isnt neccessarily an equal respresentation of how one is 'handling the situation' beind closed doors.

Sara said...

I wonder if they had a party for the kids today? We know she was gone yesterday and she has to be in Virginia in the morning. Some weekend at home.

MayDay said...

Before my daughter gave me my Mother's Day present, she said that she thought I would not like it. I could not begin to imagine anything that she would give me that I wouldn't like. I love anything my daughter gives me. I opened up the present and it was "Multiple Blessings" She confessed that she had already read half of it. Even though it is about Jon and Kate, I loved it anyways. I will read it, even though now I know what I know.

cleo said...

Kate decided last year she was going to keep going as long as possible with the show, with or without Jon. I don't think he wanted out as much as she wanted him out.

They may or may not get a divorce it really does not matter to her, but for sure she will have the show. Jon no longer is a husband or a dad, but more like a glorified nanny with room and board. I think he may be sorry he quit his nice government job.

She used Jon for as long as she needed him and deciced he is expendable. (Far cry form the first outing alone with Carla at Chocolate World without Jon)
Now she will have total control and going foward not have to share anything with Jon.

I'd like to think Jon saw the light considering the expoitation of his kids but I think he really is such a loser that he could not even figure out that anything is wrong. As stated he only cares about his good times and what he could get out of all the freebies.

Of course neither one cares about the 8 little props.

Hambone said...

Here's the Candaian article a poster mentioned above:

The Gosselin children -- all eight of them -- are adorable. They each have distinctive personalities and charming quirks.

I know this, because I can tune in to the lives of this family of eight-year-old twins and four-year-old sextuplets almost any time I want to. If I pay attention, I will know far too much about them for their own good. That worries me.

Ethical questions raised by the marketing of the Gosselin children through reality TV are newly relevant with the birth of octuplets in California last month. News reports say the single mother, who has six other children and had the octuplets implanted as embryos, is at the centre of a bidding war to tell her story for which she hopes to earn $2 million. She is looking for sponsorships to help support her huge family.

The octuplet birth comes at a time when the Gosselins and their eight children have become celebrities by way of a popular reality TV show. Their fame is drawing comparisons to a dark chapter in Ontario history, and raising concerns about the ethics of commodifying children.

Jon and Kate Plus 8, based on the lives of Jon and Kate Gosselin and their children, Cara, Mady, Alexis, Hannah, Aaden, Collin, Leah and Joel, is a Truman Show with time outs. Their adventures in everything from dinnertime etiquette to potty training are broadcast most days on The Learning Channel (TLC).

The level of minutia available to total strangers about the family's daily lives makes rich, if creepy, fodder for the Internet. Fans chew over Gosselin issues as if they are talking about close family members. Does Kate nag Jon too much? Why does she get so fussed about keeping the kids' clothes spotless? One blog posting even cautions a parent not to "pull a Mady" by calling her daughter Mady when, like the Gosselin twin, she has temper tantrums.

Amid the chat, a debate rages about the ethics of raising children under the unblinking gaze of television cameras.

The discussion should have a familiar ring for Ontario residents. It has only been 11 years since the province apologized to the surviving Dionne quintuplets, ending an almost unbelievable chapter in Ontario history.

At least that is how we see it now. At the time, the world famous quintuplets' neatly pressed little lives may have seemed lucky and adorable, just like the Gosselins'.

That was far from the truth, of course. When the grown Dionne sisters eventually told their own stories, it was clear the exploitation they experienced as a Depression-era tourist attraction did irreparable damage: "There was so much more money than love in our existence," they wrote. "It took a long time to realize what it did to us all."

Are Jon and Kate Plus 8 Dionnes for the television age? Some fear they are. There are even petitions asking that the show be taken off the air in the children's best interests -- "Two words: Dionne quintuplets. Don't let history repeat itself," said one writer to petitionsite.com.

Multiple babies impose a huge financial burden on families, as the mother of octuplets is discovering. While many families with multiples, including Ottawa's 21-year-old Forgie quintuplets, succeed in protecting their childrens' privacy and keeping their lives as normal as possible, it is easy to see how financial pressure might make offers to shine a spotlight on children attractive.

The financial rewards in the Gosselins' case appear to be great. The family recently moved to a McMansion surrounded by outbuildings and an impressive acreage. There have been episodes with them skiing in Utah, visiting Hawaii, touring Disney World. There was a tummy tuck for the mother and hair transplants for their father. The children, essentially, support the family's lifestyle. They are the family business.

Robert Thompson, professor of television and popular culture at Syracuse University, warns that the Dionne quint story is a cautionary tale to parents such as the Gosselins and the mother of octuplets.

"We saw what those kids said when they became adults. The Dionne story is kind of a cloud that hangs over this."

One major difference between the Dionne and the Gosselin stories is the parents. Jon and Kate are ever present in their children's lives. Their intentions are clearly good. They are not the Dionnes, but there are worrisome similarities.

The Dionne quintuplets had a harsher life from the beginning. They were made wards of the province by their overwhelmed parents. The girls were set up at a hospital that became a tourist-driven sideshow called Quintland at which visitors viewed them through glass, like at a zoo. They eventually returned to their family where the girls later claimed they were physically and sexually abused.

In the late 1990s, the surviving Dionne quints sent an open letter to a family of newborn quintuplets begging them to protect their children's privacy.

"Multiple births should not be confused with entertainment, nor should they be an opportunity to sell products," they wrote. "We were displayed as a curiosity three times a day for millions of tourists. ... We sincerely hope a lesson will be learned from examining how our lives were forever altered by our childhood experience. If this letter changes the course of events for these newborns, then perhaps our lives will have served a higher purpose."

The Dionne quints have fiercely guarded their privacy in recent years. The two surviving sisters have not commented publicly on Jon and Kate Plus 8. But it is a safe bet they would feel a sad empathy for the little Gosselins and the newest celebrity multiples in a hospital in California.

Elizabeth Payne is a member of the Citizen editorial board. epayne@thecitizen.canwest.com

© Copyright (c) Canwest News Service



( side note: The author of this article clearly doesn't realize Jon and Kate are NOT ever present in the kids' daily lives. )

Blessed Mama of 5 said...

I keep thinking about Kate's response to Meredith Viera, Rachel Ray and Larry King, that all the negative effects her family is experiencing are not a "trade-off" for doing the show, but rather, just "come with the territory". How I wish that even just one of those interviewers had pushed the issue with Kate, to say that their family DOES have a choice whether or not to continue with the show, and that they do not have to simply "keep marching on" through all this pain. There is a different path that she could take, for the sake of her family. She just is choosing not to.

We have 5 kids, and try to teach them that there is a difference between quitting or giving up when they haven't tried their best at something, versus removing themselves from a situation that is genuinely unhealthy, and having the wisdom to know the difference. I'm afraid that the Gosselin kids are learning that it doesn't matter what the negative effects of this situation are, their mother has chosen it for them and stubbornly defends her choice to the world, and they unfortunately have no choice but to accept it. But what else are they learning? To stay in an unhealthy situation, no matter what the consequences? I guess I'm looking ahead to their futures, when one of them may be in an abusive relationship or any other dangerous situation...are they learning to just stay and suffer? Or to jeapordize a good relationship that they might have, by placing a higher value on money and things than on the person they care about (and who cares about them)?

We've also tried to teach our children that it's important to admit when they've been wrong or hurt someone. To be able to say "I'm sorry, I was wrong, please forgive me". We model this ourselves, my husband and I have had to say this many times to our kids over the years, for lots of things! I hope that one day, Kate will say to her children, "I am sorry that I put you through this; I was wrong (no excuses)...please forgive me". Those kids need to hear that from their mother (and Father).

beachluvin said...

Jen -
Thanks for the link! Now I realize why Regis and Kelly hasn't weighed in on the Jon and Deanna scandal.

It looks like they are pretty friendly....you think they got their ankle tattoos together? One says Marc and the other says Jon....LOL!

http://www.lilsugar.com/3131268?page=0,0,2

Jennifer said...

Kate was home today. She was spotted, with a paparazzi escort at the local grocery store. Nice of her to drop in for awhile and say hi to the kids.

dee has had enough... said...

Long time lurker...first time poster. So, does anyone know if she has actually shown up at the Kon pond today? I feel very bad for those children. I hope they had a great birthday,,,I especially hope that she showed up. I'm really wondering what this week will bring. Us has a little advertisement about Kate cheating...says to look out for the May 18 edition. I'm thinking that after all this stuff they reported on Jon, that they probably have some stuff on her....especially if they are "teasing" about it. I just want her to stop already...go home and be a mother to your children!

Dunwoody Mom said...

The hypocrisy of some just boggles my mind. If it were Jon that spoke to Kate and treated Kate in the same manner that Kate treats Jon, I can assure you that Gayle King and Oprah and all the others would be all over it crying "emotional abuse", blah, blah, blah.

Why is Kate getting a free pass with regards to her treatment of Jon? Truly, I'm confused....

BCarefulWhatUWish4 said...

ratherbkayaking said...
It just struck me that I sorta agree with Khate saying she's not a celebrity. It's much like the difference between being famous and infamous. (JFK is famous - Hitler is infamous).

The celebrities that I have respect for spend a whole lot of money keeping certain moments out of the public purview. The Gosselins have made a lot of money by purposely displaying these private moments for all the viewing world to see - fecal disimpactions, verbal castrations of the spouse, pictures of first potty poops, etc. So Khate is correct - she's not a celebrity. She's incelebrity!

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That's so clever!!! I'm going to make it part of my Kate-speak language!

Sara said...

Wow it is interesting seeing the picture of Kate with Kelly. Marc and Kelly do have a production company. Kelly said on her show months ago about some deals that they were making with T.L.C. I wonder if they might come up with one for Kate. I don't know how to check this out but I know all you smart people do!

Marie France said...

allicat said...
Kate is at home today. She was just spotted at the local grocery store by a friend. The paparazzi were close behind! At least she is in the same town as her kids. It's so funny for all of us to see paparazzi in our town.
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Now, if she just got back from Bentonville, Arkansas last night ot this morning, I am wondering what she is doing in the local grocery store with the paparazzi tailing her? Today is the tups birthday. One would think that the vast array of hired help would have gone to the store prior to her Royal Bitchness' arrival or have gone instead of her. I think her appearance in the grocery store was a total publicity stunt to show that she was home today. I bet she did not even spend any quality time with the kids. Someone else said she has to be in Virginia in the morning. She is a pathological liar and a thoroughly despicable person on every level!

Ian Evans said...

Thanks for posting the link to our news site's poll on the Gosselins' marriage.

Currently the results are:

It's been a lie for some time but they will not upset the gravy train: 81.78%

Headed for divorce court: 14.49%

In the middle of a rough patch but it will survive: 3.74%

The more I read about this couple the more my head spins. The poll's still open so feel free to vote at:

http://www.digitalhit.com/poll/vote/186

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