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Mother of Two(couldn't afford more...) said...

Why has the charade of Jon and Kate been able to continue for 5 years unabated? I think that when octo-mom was so blatant in her attempt to turn multiple births into money, Jon and Kate's 5 year reign of terror and gold-digging was finally exposed. It still boggles the mind how they were able to get away with it so long. Hopefully, the reign of terror is over for the Gosselin children: FREE THE GOSSELIN 8 AND INSTEAD IMPRISON KATE !

Tami said...

I'll be in FLorida for a week starting tomorrow. I wonder how many new developments will happen before I get back. Hopefully the future of the show will implode by then!

shrinky dink said...

From Al's Greater Reading "Pimp my Sextuplets" blog: Here is the contact info for PA Attorney General for those wishing to urge an investigation of Gosselins for fraud:

Call Tom Corbett’s office at 717-787-3391

As well, info on instituting IRS action: If you would like to see a Federal fraud case, this is where you can start: How Do You Report Suspected Tax Fraud Activity?

http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=106778,00.html

I haven't checked these, I am just reposting for those who may be interested.

shmedelle said...

biddymama in MASS said...
did anyone see the E! channels E! Special about Jon & Kate's tabloid fodder??

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Yaeh, I saw some of that. How sad for those kids that their parents are on the same par as Anna Nicole and Brittney. What a fiasco.

Hater said...

I just saw the new promo. If they went to San Diego in March when they were seen at Mr. Chow (a week after season finale in which Jon said he didn't want to continue and college girls incident and break up rumors on TMZ)then why does the couch shot seem to be filmed now when they are all wearing clothes for warmer weather? Did anyone else notice that? Kate's hair is much longer at that piece that hangs than it was in the San Diego shots. They are shown at a distance and Kate and Jon are being nice to each other and can't keep from smiling. I know the actual episode is not in real time (Jon was putting up the playhouse and the kids had coats on)but the interview is current. I think we are being scammed big time.

WONDERING said...

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT "kATE GOSSELINS LONELY NEW LIFE" MEANS? IT'S ALL OVER THE WEB BUT I DONT REMEMBER ANYTHING ABOUT IT...IS IT SUPPOSE TO BE A JOKE ABOUT A NEW TITLE FOR THE SHOW?

Lora said...

I don't agree that the Gosselin children are being exploited. All you have to do is watch an episode to see how much fun they are having on their outings or even the way they are interacting with the camera crew.

Kate makes it clear that no child is forced to be filmed. Mady didn't want her braces to be put on while cameras rolled, and they weren't.

Instead of all the attacks on Kate, let's hope and pray that the couple can work out their differences and we viewers can enjoy watching these beautiful children thrive and grow.

Wendy said...

Mady Gosselin

Has she been unfairly portrayed? Now that the truth behind filming is starting to surface, I look back at the scenes filmed of Mady very differently. I am also outraged that her PARENTS put her out there for America to make assumptions about what kind of girl she is and all the while leaving her with various "non-nannies." Perhaps, there is some truth to Mady's ways BUT what if she was merely acting out because she didn't want to play a character in her parents reality show. Now that we are learning that family outings were staged and perhaps only happened when there were cameras, it's possible Mady was refusing to be apart of the lie. I remember during the vow renewal "for ratings" she stated I don't want to be the maid of honor.

I want to say: YAY, for Mady! Children are perhaps brutally honest and it can embarrass parents. But, if Kate was hardly home and all Mady experienced was their fighting, she probably didn't want to be apart of their charade.

I don't think that America should chastise Mady because as we are finding out, we "thought" the show was real, it really wasn't. As I look back on former episodes (sorry, I bought all the dvds before knowing the truth), I am starting to "see" things more clearly. I am realizing that this family who asked America to care about their family, who asked America to care about their struggles, who told America how "real" their show was, in the end all they did was "trick" America into believing the lie of the Gosselin Family of 10.

Mother of Two(couldn't afford more...) said...

The E Channel needs to do one of their "E's True Hollywood Stories" expose shows on the "real" Kate Gosselin, showing the under-belly, the boulevard of broken dreams, interviewing people from her past, and exposing the grim reality of her past and present life. I doubt they'd be able to find any one who actually knows her in real life who could say anything good about her. Even her own parents are not coming forth on her behalf (like Jon's Mom did on his behalf). Maybe because Kate's dad is a minister, he senses his congregation would know he would be lying if he defended Kate in any way.

shrinkydink said...

Yes, we all know people with NPD are pathological liars....but 30 weeks on bed rest my ass! She is just riduculous. She wasn't even pregnant for 30 weeks.

Thought you all might like to see this from Jon confirming the length of her actual bed rest - it was posted by Jon in 2005 on multiples form. Sorry for being so nit picky. I'm bored and not feeling well, so on bed rest myself today!

Mon Mar-14-05 01:29 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005

#91166, "RE: 3 days until hospital bed rest - what should w"
In response to Reply # 0

My wife was on bedrest for 5 months. Three months at home and 2 months in the hospital (SEXTUPLETS!!!). Why don't you get her carryout from her favorite restraunt? If they don't usually do carryout just explain to them that your wife is having triplets and this will probubly be her last real meal before she goes into the hospital and you would like to do something special for her. I am sure they will understand. Depending on where you live -- I used to spend time outside with my wife because she was going to be locked up in the hospital for a long time. So maybe you could rent a wheel chair and push her around or you could setup a candle light dinner for the two of you. When she does go to the hospital make sure you are there as much as you can be. It is a lonely time for her and she will miss you more than you think. Otherwise keep your chin up. Try to hold your tongue as much as possible (I know it can be frustrating sometimes. ) God will provide!

Sincerely,

Daddyof8
TWIN GIRLS 10/08/2000
SEXTUPLETS BBB GGG 05/10/2004
www.sixgosselins.com

Taryn said...

I realize these kids are not me, but I remember when I was little, my parents would argue occasionally and I'd be so terrified they'd divorce. One time things got especially heated and my mom was going to stay at my grandma's, and I remember crying and begging her not to leave (she didn't).

I really feel for these kids. Maybe they're not reacting the same way I did since they have each other and I was an only child, but still. All of this upheaval must be stressing them out in some way.

Hilda said...

I am so sad for this family. Despite everything going on right now, I hope that everything works out for them. Individually and as a family. I feel it's so sad to live this way.

JACKYFROMCANADA said...

With respect to the queries of the land title being in the name of the lawyer, as a Legal Assistant, I suspect that they do not want their assets (money or land) in their name.

When a client has a great deal of money they do not want traced or to be attached to their name, they go to this type of lawyer (Wealth Management/Wills & Estate) and deposit their money in TRUST as a retainer. The wealth management law firm accountants set up particular investment accounts to hold these trust monies. I have done this myself.

Anyways, the jist of it is, nobody can get at your money, or trace it, and if you are sued..they can't reach the money because of the privilege attached thereto.

The large asset of the house is in a revocable trust under the name of the lawyer, to protect the asset from any attachments from judgments as against Jon & Kate.

This information is given as an opinion only and does not infer anything nefferious with respect to the firm or their respective clients.

Hope this helps.

Tangerine Tanya said...

Seriously I wonder IF Jon and Kate get a divorce if she will change her name back to her maiden name. Kreider isn't it? Kate Kreider imagine that.

Sue said...

I am also wondering if I should sell my Ann Taylor stock...Not being funny here.

Sue said...

There have been people fighting for these kids for along time. Nothing against the show but I am GLAD!

Just imagine being 16 (randome age I am picking here) and just say you are the boy your daddy had to help with his constipation. I think it was Joel or Collin not sure. Anyways. He meets a girl and he says "Hi I am Joel Gosselin" and she says..."Oh I know you you, I saw your daddy pulling poop out of your butt"....THAT IS MY ISSUE!!! Think about it people!!!!

Yes are the kids cute ...but really look back at yourself as a kid, especially what Cara and Mady are going through right now. They are almost 10 ...that is a awkward stage! Imagine everyone in the world seeing that part of your life??? Yes, it's cute when you show your boyfriend, husband, kids etc. ....of your "cute" photos through life but think about it would you want the whole world to see you sitting next to a "potty" showing your first poop??

Michelle1 said...

Kate vs Celebrity

I have to agree with Kate on one thing. She says she isn't a celebrity. And she is right. Celebrities have class. Kate has none. Celebrities don't have fake nails and don't wear their finest clothes when they go out on a random shopping trip. It's clear Kate came from the bottom as she is sending a message that she is better than most. I disagree with her on this. She is not better. It takes a whole lot more than 8 kids, a mansion, several cars in the drive way, a body guard, a nanny, millions in the bank and lots of freebies to make a classy person.

Most celebrities don't go on national television when they hit it big and say "it's mine, all mine". That's just classless. What Kate is is an opportunist. Opportunist's don't care what they sacrifice in ethical principles to get what they want. That, Kate, is you.

Finally....remember what they say...

Be Careful What You Wish For

You just might get it.

Beyond Blessed in GA said...

shrinkydink said...

Thought you all might like to see this from Jon confirming the length of her actual bed rest - it was posted by Jon in 2005 on multiples form. Sorry for being so nit picky. I'm bored and not feeling well, so on bed rest myself today!

Mon Mar-14-05 01:29 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005

#91166, "RE: 3 days until hospital bed rest - what should w"
In response to Reply # 0

My wife was on bedrest for 5 months. Three months at home and 2 months in the hospital (SEXTUPLETS!!!). Why don't you get her carryout from her favorite restraunt? If they don't usually do carryout just explain to them that your wife is having triplets and this will probubly be her last real meal before she goes into the hospital and you would like to do something special for her. I am sure they will understand. Depending on where you live -- I used to spend time outside with my wife because she was going to be locked up in the hospital for a long time. So maybe you could rent a wheel chair and push her around or you could setup a candle light dinner for the two of you. When she does go to the hospital make sure you are there as much as you can be. It is a lonely time for her and she will miss you more than you think. Otherwise keep your chin up. Try to hold your tongue as much as possible (I know it can be frustrating sometimes. ) God will provide!

Sincerely,

Daddyof8
TWIN GIRLS 10/08/2000
SEXTUPLETS BBB GGG 05/10/2004
www.sixgosselins.com
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This comment just about brought me to tears. You can see Jon's heart for his family through this post, and it was just 4 years ago. I know so much has changed since then but some of this "old" Jon must still be in there. I have a whole new view on Jon.

In other news, did anyone see the E special, can you post anything they revealed that we didnt already know? Was is just another PR ad, or was there some truth in it? ANy interviews with people we havent heard from before? Thanks!

ManicNarcissism said...

Hater said...

I just saw the new promo. If they went to San Diego in March when they were seen at Mr. Chow (a week after season finale in which Jon said he didn't want to continue and college girls incident and break up rumors on TMZ)

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Some of us speculated that the new beach shots for the new show were taped during that Spring Break week when the whole family was in CA around the 24th of March. However, the blurb for the show says specifically that the kids and Jon are at home. Also, in the promo Jon states that he is at home with the kids and they show them in the driveway playing. However, I have kept a list of her activities and unless she flew out to CA very early in the morning in May went to a spa and came home on the red eye that same night, I don't know how she would have fit it in. I'll be watching the episode for clues.

As far as their hair, weather appropriate clothes etc. You can just assume that a lot of the interviews take place WAY later than the actual footage for the show. I think that is normal, they have to take all the videotape, edit it and pretty much have it ready for airing and then go to Jon and Kate and say okay this is what we are going to show, can you tell us why Alexis was hitting Joel for the upteenth time (I picked children randomly.) I really don't consider that suspicious. But, I am very curious to when Kate and Mady jetsetted to CA.

sueshe said...

Wow...what once was an enjoyable family show, has now turned into a soap opera with very damaging effects. I feel for the kids, and I really feel for Jon.
At first I put a lot of blame on him, because I thought he was the mastermind behind the scheme to market the kids and make the millions. But as I have watched the shows, and saw Kate evolve, it became clear who really was behind it.
She is an evil woman, who only cares about the money, her fame, and the spa treatments. It is pitiful how she has destroyed a family, and wants to go on with the travesty of a tv show.
I watched Jon interact with his kids over the years. And I saw how he took Kate's sharp tongue on national tv. He couldn't even breathe right. Now who in the world would put up with a remark like that, and why would TLC chose to show that?
What I find so unbelievable, is the birth and transformation of a b----, who cares of no one but herself.
I do believe that she went to Jon and told him that the marriage was over, and that she gave him a contract. Jon's behavior has been the same up until the last few shows, and now he looks like a person in tremendous pain. On the other hand, we have Kate, who has turned into a monster, and is trying to portray herself as the victim. I don't buy her story one bit.
She has done a good job at what she set out to do. Market the kids, make the millions, buy the mansion, and boot the husband.
If the Gosselin's do divorce, I hope that the judge will give Jon the kids. All the judge has to do is watch the entire series of shows (ahhh Kate, did ya think about that?)...he will clearly be able to see the better parent.
It really is a shame that this all had to happen, and to have it played out on tv...
My prayers go out to Jon and his kids...

ManicNarcissism said...

Sue said:

Then the one clip they had last week (before the big premiere) had Kate and Jon checking out the new interview view. They seemed fine and that had to have been somewhat recent. She had on a green dress (same dress different color as the People magazine cover).

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My take on this is we are seeing footage that was taped from the close of last season - you know when they said they were taking a "break" but were really just taping new footage for the 40 episode season. So, they don't want to just scrap all of that work so they are trying to splice it together but still make it relevant. Some of the 'happy' moments might be just faking, they didn't know yet that we would ALL know the truth and they were still keeping up the facade for the cameras. Also, Kate might have been in doubt still about Jon having an affair and they might have legitimately still been working on the marriage. Maybe, maybe not. I'm still not convinced about the whole secret marriage contract. If it was out there, Jon would have shown it I think. I mean he is going DOWN, why not take Kate with him? But, also I just think it seems uncharacteristic of her. I really don't think SHE ended the marriage before he did. As much as I dislike her.

sueshe said...

OMG...It just dawned on me why Kate got the german shepards. I couldn't understand why she picked that breed of dog with having young children. Shitzuh, poodle (as she once stated she wanted) would of been a better choice. But she wanted GUARD DOGS!!!!

...Amy... said...

Lora said...
I don't agree that the Gosselin children are being exploited. All you have to do is watch an episode to see how much fun they are having on their outings or even the way they are interacting with the camera crew.
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Fun? Are you kidding? All I ever see are screaming, unhappy looking children, whether they're being filmed at home or on an outing. KON always say "oh, the kids love it when we (insert whatever they were filming that day)" and then they cut to a screaming/crying child. Although I don't have any of my own, I've taken care of plenty of kids, and happy kids enjoying what they're participating in do not throw tantrums, cry constantly, etc.

The kids are clearly not enjoying their "lives", and it's so sad. :(

Shari said...

There's a lot of speculation as to whether this whole cheating-possible divorce-scandal is real or for ratings. At this point, does it really matter? It's obviously come back to bite them in the butt because investigations are taking place.

Hopefully, the show is shut down, the IRS takes a peak into their finances, & Sheeple stop giving Kon any more of their hard earned money!

Jon minus Kate-Why r they still 2gether said...

If the whole thing is a scam for
ratings- it might be Jon and Kate's
downfall.
They are now being looked at much
more critically and even the fan
sites are asking what effect the
show is having on the kids.
So keep on showing us your bad sides Jon and Kate- if we are
being scammed- you will lose in the end!

JJ said...

What I'd like to know is if Jon went to Jodi and Kevin and told them all this gossip about Kate, then the 3 of them are clearly in contact.

Why didn't Jon just not sign the contract for season 5, or just doesn't sign the contract for any seasons after and just get season 5 overwith? Makes a lot more sense and will end the show indefinitely and a LOT faster than Kevin and Jodi pleading with us not to watch. If Jon had any intentions of ending the show by not signing on and not allowing his kids to be filmed, then online video pleading wouldn't have really been necessary since it would be the last season and they'd know it was over after that.

Guess Jon enjoys being a spoiled child too much. Doesn't have to work (now he's hardly even on camera, and if
rumors and reports are true, he will hardly be in the show at all) yet he gets all the money, condos in Utah, sports cars and mantoys he wants.

I'm sure he loves his kids (I believe Kate does too though they have terrible ways of showing it) but he's in this for himself. He's miserable for himself and no one else. Selfish. Let the kids keep on working so that he doesn't have to. He can get his privacy and his "just Jon" persona back...who cares if Leah won't be able to ever be "just Leah"? He sickens me.

IMO Only said...

Figure 8 Films will not stop filming the children IMO until they can no longer sell it (to TLC or any other network interested). It appears to be their main "cash cow" (www.figure8films.tv/). Perhaps massive viewer mail, complaints, program bans, etc. re their filming of the children should be sent to them? The "buck may stop here" rather than TLC for buying & showing their film? Perhaps Figure 8 films (although not in entirety) is actually the one to be held responsible for filming the children (IAW the law or morally)?

lifeoriley said...

No one knows for sure if there was in fact a contract allowing Jon to see other women--it may have been a verbal agreement, or Jon may have given it to a lawyer to use in divorce proceedings. Maybe it doesn't exist at all.
However, I do believe Jon wanted out of the show by the end of last season and Katie Irene was hell-bent on continuing to do the show. She even stated that she new Jon was not happy and tried to come up with "solutions" to the problem. It is my opinion that Kate would do anything--promise things, bribe, threaten, throw fits, a huge guilt trip--ANYTHING-- to get her way. So it seems entirely plausible to me that if he threatened to quit the show, she told him he could have more free time to do "whatever" he wanted-- if he promised to show up for filming. Hence the ATV, the sports car, the episode with the Chopper guys--these are things that Kate and TLC may've used to keep Jon in line. Kate's anger is from Jon getting careless and getting caught by the media--thus putting their "family business" in jeopardy. Now that things are exposed-- Kate, TLC and the PR firm need more time to spin and twist things so that they can come up with a plan to keep the business going.
Jon--get a lawyer and protect your children--don't be lured by material wealth any longer--money cannot ensure the happiness of your children (and yourself).

PhDMom said...

What happened to their website sixgosselins.com? Seems like I looked at it a few weeks ago and it had not been updated in ages... and now it's gone.

Elle :) said...

And for those of us who require some "lighter fare" now and then, I bring you the "Love is Only In The Pix" Recipe Compilation.

-Greed Eggs and Ham
-Hot For Teacher's Cherries
-Love Tap Punch
-No-Eat Cupcakes
-I'm Flagged Cake
-Old Grandma Who's No Longer In -Our Lives Soup
-Corn Frittering Our $ Away
-Quick & Easy Tipsy Tarts
-Pink Coed Tacos
-Jon's Famous Date Bread-Bred pudding
-Babe ghanoush
-Helloooo Jello
-Off of baby's back ribs
-Banotananny Bread
-Belittle Bits
-Freemeat loaf
-Who Would Give You Gumbo
-I scream for ice-cream
-Tator Tups
-Tabloid (Sue)Souffles
-Whine (Wine) Spritzers
(All made with no transplants(hair and boob) oops I meant transfat).

-She could call it "Love Tapas" and tie in some of sponsers:

-Health-Tex-Mex
-Harlem Globe Tater-Trotters
-Nacho Nannies
-Cole Haan-burgers

-Monkey (on my Back) Munch
-High Stakes Steak
-Jon's Big (Korean) Beef
-Old Grandma(less) Soup
-Easy Craft Services Buffet for 10
-Don't Bother Me Chef's Salad
-Did You Just Now Put Those On? BBQ
-Coooooold Fruit Salad - Yummy Yummy
-Exploitation Egg Salad Secrets
-I Want a Bagelllll Breakfast
-Laundryroom Floor Luncheonette
-The Easiest Boxes to Open When "Cooking".
-Kate's Hambone Soup
-Jon's Meatless Meat Balls
-Not so cheery-o's
-BULLogny SandWITCHES
-Love Is In the Chex Mix
-Jon's No-Nuts Pecan Cookies
-Split-Up Pea Soup
-Karmal Popcorn
-Banana We Are Spliting
--Fake Wedding Soup
-Make Your Mango slush
-Seven Lawyer Salad
-Grilled Con on the Cob
-Chubby Hubby Skewer
-Bitternut Squash
-Micromini Skirt Steak
-Mashed potatoes with gravy train
-Who Am I To Say No Hot Cocoa
-KONelloni
-White cake with Grey and Black frosting.
-Hot tea with Queen Bee Honey
- Rice Krispie Rare Treats
- Jon's Red Faced Snapper
- KONpound Butter
- Jon's Half-Baked Beans
- Gag Me With a Spoon Bread
- Kate's RhuBARB Pie
- Jon's (Heavy on the) Bourbon (Light on the) Balls
- Kate's Jerk-y
- Kate's D-Cup Salad
- Two-Fruit Salad
- Kate's Mac and Steve
- Kate's Breakfast Quickie
- Chicken a la QUEEN
-Not So Humble Pie
-Chili Kon Katie
-Kon Meal Bread
-Dump (your spouse) Cake
-Paparazzi Pot Pie
-Sheeple Smorgaboard.
-Sheeple Cole Slaw
-Sheeple Stew
-Sheeple Skewers
-Sheeple Snap Peas
-Sheeple Sandwiches
-Sheeple Salmon Patties
(Normally tastey treats but when prepared by Kate would be bland,tastless and lacks flavor because the ingredients in SHEEPLE are VERY SIMPLE).
-Kate's Shrew Stew
-Jon's Beer Battered Balls
-Tup's "You're Ruined!!!!" Drippy Ice Cream Delight
-Eight on a Shingle
-"I'm so Exhausted" Eggs Benedict
-Horrendously Horrendous Hummus

MissB said...

Sue said...

Yes are the kids cute ...but really look back at yourself as a kid, especially what Cara and Mady are going through right now. They are almost 10 ...that is a awkward stage! ........

5/30/2009 12:57 AM

Sue,
I hate to be picky, but Mady & Cara'a birthday is October 8, 2000. Which makes them 8 years old.

FormerFanofJonandKate said...

Michelle1 said...

Kate vs Celebrity

I have to agree with Kate on one thing. She says she isn't a celebrity. And she is right. Celebrities have class. Kate has none.

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I disagree here. Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, Chris Brown, etc. are all considered "celebrities" and they have NO class. Not all celebrities have class.

With that said, you are right....Kate definitely has none.

Glenda said...

I watched the E! Special it really didn't tell you anything new. They had interviews with the owner of the bar Jon went to and he is a good friend of Jon's. Also interviews with neighbors and the brother of the girl who was seen with Jon. Who I must say is VERY creepy. Mostly it was just reporters from US weekly talking.
I saw the new promos for next weeks show at Charm City cakes. It 'appeared' that each kid got to make a cake. My first thought was I bet she let's each kid eat their cake no matter what!! More damage control. Jon doesn't appear to be in the episode. I use to love Ace of cakes but will not be watching it anymore because they have joined the craziness that is this show.

Sue said...

You know that old saying that any publicity is good publicity.
I think the news of the PA investigation into whether TLC violated child labor laws may actually bring in more viewers initially. But that could be a good thing, because probably a percentage of those viewers will be lawyers or child advocates watching closely for violations.
So, TLC, beware of what you wish for!

Jujubeoh said...

Here is my take on what's going on. Of the two parents, Jon is by far the parent who has the children's interest at heart. Kate can talk all she wants, but her big interest is fame and money. I believe she presented Jon with the "contract" six months ago, when she began the fling with the bodyguard. I'm thinking in the contract it stated Jon could date, and live a "single" lifestyle, as long as he acted married for the show. That's why when Jon says "I didn't cheat on Kate. I know what I know, and she knows what she knows.", he doesn't feel he was cheating since they signed the contract. He can't reveal this due to their contract with TLC. It's obvious Jon is going through a very tough time. He does have his children's interests at heart, but IMHO his depression has caused him to do some "out of character" things. From past experience with an alcoholic, I believe Jon has a substance abuse problem. My heart breaks for him. I hope he can get some help and find happiness. Kate, on the other hand, I hope gets what she deserves. What goes around comes around, Kate.

Expositor said...

Lora said... I don't agree that the Gosselin children are being exploited. All you have to do is watch an episode to see how much fun they are having on their outings or even the way they are interacting with the camera crew.

Why would you think that exploiting children to make money for sports cars, million dollars homes, boob jobs and fake tans is ever acceptable?

Did you happen to the the Bday episode where one of the boys that Kate declares to be "gross" is sitting on the picnic table rocking back and forth and looking extremely distressed? Did you notice his constant eye blinking?

Did that look like fun?

How would you like it if the hours you spent learning how to have a bowel movement in the potty were filmed and broadcast for money, by your own mother, who actually refused to get a job to support you?

Ava's Mommy said...

I swear this story with Jon and Kate is a never ending battle. Its getting to be overrated. It use to be fun just commenting and bloging about this so called “family”. But now a days its getting to be did you hear this and did you hear that. Rumors are flying off the walls. They are getting more fans or gawker by the minute. The media and tabloids are really rolling with this story. Specially to that one liner Alexis said to her father. Daddy please don’t leave again. ( oh and Jon has a job) interesting…

If the media, tabloids and such wouldn’t of put such a giant hold on this family. They wouldn’t of received all the views that first day. This just shows that the public eye love to see destruction, fail relationships and family problems. No matter what the circumstances. Are we fascinated to see people fail? I think so. Why did anyone else tune in? I hope TLC is happy and I hope Jon and Kate are happy for the near future. Some day this is all going to come back in spades for the family and TLC.

I’m also amazed that queenie Kate does not tell the “P” people to back off. Please allow my children privacy.. Hey Kate you have a mouth its your best asset right. Than use it tell the “ P” people to back off.. Or put a big cement wall on your property they can not get over or take pictures.

Also a interesting thing I’ve notice reading the recaps and seeing a little bit of what everyone is talking about. Yes I admit I wasn’t going to watch it at all, but I did see 15 min of this sham.. Is it just me or now Jon is not the victim anymore. Kate is.. The table’s have turned in this family and very fast editing done. For almost 4 years Jon has played the victim in Kate’s scam of things. Now on year 5 Kate the demanding no compassion, no sympathy and no tack. Has changed over night. She is still a diva, still demanding, still sarcastic. But it seems that they really cut fast from her or edit a lot out. Know they really put bad stuff in for Jon. Alexis telling him not to leave, daddy needed a break, daddy has to be away from mommy, daddy drove hear by him self. Etc… This is a complete shame…

Also like Kates last min on the show. I know what I know and he knows what he knows.. Oh that makes a lot of sense. But will we ever find out what they both know than the obvious… Yes on season 10.. More of a stupid cliffhanger to keep onlookers watching the show. In which half of the show has already been shot.. So its going to old shot episode again. For awhile till they will come to the new stuff. Than it will just be Kate with the kids or Jon with the Kids not together.. They have to keep this storyline going to keep public eye on them. Its all about rating…

Side note:
My attitude has not changed from day one. Kon is in this together, they decided to do this show, books and etc together. I’m not one sided. This is as much fault Kates as its Jon. You need two people to start a discussion and 2 people to have a argument.

Rhonda Rae said...

Here's what I think: I think Jon was content with being the man-child for a long time. He was turned on by Kate's dominance when he was young, and later he could sit back and let her do all the thinking and work. But I think when people saw him on TV and started making comments about his manhood it started to get to him, and then I think Kate kept an iron fist on the money and didn't let him spend it like he wanted (give me a break, does anyone think an immature playboy-wannabe like Jon who makes $75K/episode would buy a Nissan watchamacallit instead of a Porsche or Corvette if it was up to him?). So there was resentment, and then I think Jon with his limited intellect decided to extort Kate (let me use "my" money like I want or I'll quit the show), and of course with her ego a lightbulb went on and she said to herself "Hmmmm...there are a lot of shows on now about huge Christian families with lots of togetherness, and there's the Octomom who churns out babies without bothering to have a husband, but nobody's doing a show about a mother of 8 who gets dumped by her husband (who it's already been established is a slacker and a cheater)and now she has to raise these 8 cute kids alone...hmmmm, think of the heartstrings that will tug at!"

Lost in Translation said...

When my twins were little, one had a horrible hearing/speech problem when he was just 2. After great therapy and good Dr.'s, he was just fine. BUT, there was a time he didn't talk, and the other one was like a little rocket scientist, always getting kuddos in his daycare. I am HAPPY to say, now they are 13, and don't remember that, and, one of them doesn't have to see their bad time .....OVER and OVER and OVER........I can't imagine.

I'm also pretty sure they will be "cleared" and then, they will thow that in our faces.....
TLC has too much money.

Elle said...

Has anyone seen the pictures in Entertainment Weekly (both this week and last week)? They made me so horribly sad. Aaden looks miserable in both of them, Collin and Joel look confused, and Mady -- the picture in last week's episode was just awful - so much pain and terror on her face -- and in this week's she's crying, too. We've all noticed she needed some kind of help/extra attention/LACK of attention by cameras/this kind of life - but these pictures broke my heart. Kate is holding her hand in the recent one, but just smiling, smiling, smiling for the camera. There's your proof. These kids are being hurt. And someone's making money off of it, including her parents. God.

jorjahgal said...

FYI.... the episode with the delicious food .... it's called Bulgogi...someone posted a request for the recipe...I've been making that for about 22 years now and it really pissed me off how she acted as though it was some great "Asian" secret recipe... As for the bedrest for 30 weeks... Sorry I have no empathy or sympathy there... My mom was hospitalized for nearly SEVEN months...due to a botched intestinal surgery... Seven months in a hospital bed...I lost my mom...it's so unfair. I'd give anything to have my mom back and yet she deliberately chooses NOT to be a part of her mom's life.
She gives Christians a bad rep..she brings shame calling herself a SAHM and disgusts me as a daughter.

Julianne said...

First time poster here! I've been reading this blog for quite some time and I absolutely love it!!

This is going to sound horrible on the part of my mom, but at first, Kate kind of reminded me of her. Certainly not a perfect mother - she has flaws just like anyone else - but in the end, I knew she was there for me no matter what, and that's how I saw Kate.

As time went on, though, I began to see Kate as very mean. I have to take into consideration her children's ages, as well - my mom teasing me (I'm 20) and my 13 year old sister is not the same as Kate belittling her children on national tv.

Just wanting to clarify that my mom is wonderful, and she would NEVER objectify my sister nor I in the way that Kate has with her sweet children.

I also used to find Jon and Kate's banter normal, and cute, but as time went on, it became ugly. My mom and dad also like to tease each other, and play fight (I guess you could say our whole family likes to tease each other, lol, but we're truly there for each other when we're needed).

I really felt for .. I believe it was Joel, when he was so sick and all he wanted with his mommy, and Kate wouldn't even pick him up or try to soothe him - she was too busy picking out beds. For the love of God, what kind of mother will ignore a child in obvious pain for something so frivolous as shopping? Horrid.

Also, sorry for the randomness of these comments, but I've been covers lately with Kate and one of the captions was 'Kate will not touch bleeding son' or something along those lines. I was actually looking at one of the issues in a store, but I was in a hurry and I couldn't find it when I was skimming the J&K article. Anyone know what exactly happened with that? Poor little guy :( a mother who won't help her children when they're hurt or upset is just despicable!

Corinne said...

As a concerned citizen, I was at my local Target yesterday and decided to help my fellow citizens out...

http://tiny.cc/x02SR

I picked those books specifically. ;)

wendyzr said...

Sue said,

Kate had to bathe her and she basically said something along the lines of "I have never bathed them, I don't know how Jon does this, This is his job" or something along those lines. That to me is VERY telling. What mother doesn't EVER bathe here children?
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Remember when she thought that every husband fills the gas tank for their wife. She really thought there was nothing wrong with that she NEVER put gas in the car. well two times maybe. That is husband's duty. She asked, "isn't that normal?" Jon not being around I'm SURE she has her "people" do it now.

An abuse that is on camera. There was one time where one of the boys would not go poo and Kate told him to stay on that potty until he did. It was a LONG time, and I remember her leaving the room and shutting the light off! Leaving that poor child in the dark! He did not cry but I guess he is used to it. Poor kids.

BMWoP said...

Mother of Two(couldn't afford more...) said...
Why has the charade of Jon and Kate been able to continue for 5 years unabated? I think that when octo-mom was so blatant in her attempt to turn multiple births into money, Jon and Kate's 5 year reign of terror and gold-digging was finally exposed. It still boggles the mind how they were able to get away with it so long. Hopefully, the reign of terror is over for the Gosselin children: FREE THE GOSSELIN 8 AND INSTEAD IMPRISON KATE !

5/29/2009 9:51 PM



Take 8 cute kids ( 6 ridiculously gorgeous babies ) and add the Seven Dwarves whistling music during scenes, and you can brainwash most people...for a while anyway.

Seriously, the next time you watch an episode with some questionable footage, listen to the sugary music that is playing in the background. Take away that music and what you are looking at becomes disturbing. Add the cutesy music and it somehow all seems innocent.

I could be wrong, I haven't watched too many epiosodes since they moved to the new house, but I don't think they sprinkle the footage with much of that cutesy music anymore, and maybe that is making things appear more real and not sitting too well with people like it used to.

It's like watching a sitcom with laugh tracks. Take away the laugh tracks and suddenly it's no longer funny. I remember watching that movie "Benji" when I was little and sobbing my eyes out. My dad pointed out that it was the music that was making the scene sadder, he turned the volume off, and suddenly I didn't think it was as sad. Maybe fans of J&K Plus 8 were subliminally sucked in to thinking pooping on a potty was cute because of the background children's music.

I think this is how they got away with so much questionable material. They sprinkled it with sugar.

Janet said...

Lora said...
I don't agree that the Gosselin children are being exploited. All you have to do is watch an episode to see how much fun they are having on their outings or even the way they are interacting with the camera crew.

Kate makes it clear that no child is forced to be filmed. Mady didn't want her braces to be put on while cameras rolled, and they weren't.


Lori,
try and look at the big picture here. Exploitation:In political economy, economics, and sociology, exploitation involves a persistent social relationship in which certain persons are being mistreated or unfairly used for the benefit of others

Kate and Jon, from the beginning have USED their children to get things handed to them. They have lied and misrepresented themselves to thousands of people in order to get more and more money.

Jon and Kate are USING the children for personal material gain. Period. They are not concerned about the children's futures'. If their goal was to provide security and education for the 8, they have well surpassed that goal, yet they keep on going.

These children are not for your entertainment. They are entitled to have normal lives out of the spotlight. The fact that anyone wants the show to continue so they can keep watching them really needs to consider what's at stake here.

Shooka's Snoot said...

I don't know if either of them are truly evil, but they are both of very poor character. They are both bad parents.

Most parents hate leaving their children with nannies and babysitters. Most have no choice, because they need to work. My mother hated leaving me with other people while she worked or had the occasional night out with her friends.

The Gosselins have incomes in which they could both be stay at home parents--yet, it seems, they won't even sleep in the same house as their children if they can help it.

Kate's traveling seems voluntary to me. I find it hard to believe that a "Christian, Family Values" publisher would demand a young mother travel the country doing 2 hour book signings. She does not need to give any speeches at churches any more, they are well-compensated by TLC. I believe she uses this "career" as an excuse to get away from her messy children, and justifies it to herself because she had to do a lot of housework for a couple of years, and now deserves "me time."

Jon is no better. As soon as a nanny was sleeping over, he took off and spent the night with his girlfriend.He feels entitled to this because he didn't party much in his 20's. What kind of an idiot resents his children's presence because they kept him from drinking and carousing? That's like something an unwed high school father would complain about, not a man approaching middle age.

I'm hoping these kids will not wind up messed up, but I think the chance of that is slim.

OriginalThoughts said...

the NY Post has an article about the child labor being looked into...

But what caught my eye most in the article, is it says that they are away from their home currently to getting a NEW KITCHEN INSTALLED...are u freakin kidding me? The last one was awesome. When will the madness end?

A Mother's Walk said...

I continue to pray for the Gosselin children. They seem to look more and more upset with each show. I know this is taking a horrible toll on them and I wish it would just stop.

I wonder if it ever will? I read a comment saying, they will always be those 8 kids that were on TV. I am sure this is true.

The more I read comments and research about Kate, the more I really hate her. Such a strong word, but seeing that I adored her just less than a year ago it fits my feelings now. She had me fooled that is for sure.

Thank goodness my eyes have been opened.

ImFrancie said...

Lora said...
I don't agree that the Gosselin children are being exploited. All you have to do is watch an episode to see how much fun they are having on their outings or even the way they are interacting with the camera crew.
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What definitions of "fun" and "normal childhood" include "interacting with the camera crew"?

This goes along with the standard line coming out of die-hard fans, and Kate herself, that the Gosselin children are accustomed to the cameras and therefore don't know any other sort of "normal".

These children have been objectified, in the most literal sense of the word. They've been treated like objects, not conscious, feeling human beings, for too long. And as "objects", it's easier to justify their exploitation.

The more the viewing public can be forced to empathize with these children, the better. Ask yourselves, how would it feel to trade places with these children? (Yes, I'm talking to you, lurker TLC suits and assorted sheeple!)

From reading fan comments on the fake blog, it seems the season premiere really started this process of empathizing in full, as more and more viewers realized the children are now caught in the tangled web of the parents' marital crisis. At least it's something to wake people up to the fact that nothing about these children's lives is "normal".

wendyzr said...

Jujubeoh said...

Here is my take on what's going on. Of the two parents, Jon is by far the parent who has the children's interest at heart. Kate can talk all she wants, but her big interest is fame and money. I believe she presented Jon with the "contract" six months ago, when she began the fling with the bodyguard. I'm thinking in the contract it stated Jon could date, and live a "single" lifestyle, as long as he acted married for the show. That's why when Jon says "I didn't cheat on Kate. I know what I know, and she knows what she knows.", he doesn't feel he was cheating since they signed the contract. He can't reveal this due to their contract with TLC.


I've posted this same theory before. That is what me meant about "kate knows what she knows" He is PI**ED that he looks like the bad guy when he had PERMISSION to do this. I don't think he ever dreamed paparazzi would be in PA. He thought he'd get away with it.

Math Challenged said...

Forgive me if this has been posted before but...

Kate said that parents of multiples have triple the divorce rate?!?!

I thought the rate was 50% in the U.S.

You do the math.

Lou in UK said...

OMG this is hilarious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZrNJHTWVyA&feature=player_embedded

just wondering said...

KidsRthePriority said...
TLC states that the show will continue as long as there is interest. Kate says the kids will let her know it's time to end. Jon says he will do anything for his kids.

What each meant to say was that this show will continue as long as it is a cash cow. High ratings = $$$, and neither TLC, Kate, nor Jon will EVER walk away from that. That much is now clear.

What we need to remember is that TLC, Kate and Jon will say anything, be filmed anywhere, do whatever it takes TO GET US CURIOUS ENOUGH TO TUNE IN. They don't care why you watch, they only care that you do watch. Believe NOTHING they say. They will say whatever is necessary to justify their end goal = MONEY. Remember that Jodi/Kevin informed us that it's all scripted, none of it's real. Add that to TLC's splicing - and this is the furthest thing from "reality" one can imagine. It should be called "contrived TV" because that's what it is. And not very good, either.

I do not watch this show, and encourage everyone else to boycott it and everything else on TLC. Kids' lives, including private moments with a parent, are just that - PRIVATE. It is no one's business but theirs, this should NOT be filmed and viewed by another, especially strangers.

I'm encouraged by the campaign to contact the PA Attorney General to file criminal charges re: fraud. I'll be joining the campaign and calling his office daily. As well as the PA newspapers regarding his reluctance to file the charges. Until the politician realizes his electorate is unhappy, the impacted churches should also contact counsel regarding filing civil suits for misrepresentation and possibly breach of contract. I sincerely hope whatever attorney is finally appointed for the children's interests suppoenas the film on the cutting room floor. That's going to be the key.

Sorry this is so long, but please encourage everyone to stop watching. Not watching is the best thing anyone can do for these poor kids. Focus on decreasing the ratings and you'll be freeing the Gosselins kids from their imprisonment.

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I haven't seen a prime time episode since the dog went to the vet. My dogs are the center of my life and watching such blatent disregard of veterinarian advise nearly made me lose my dinner.

People, just what does it take for you to stop watching this show? Stop contributin to the numbers. Write letters, call advertisers, wear a slogan T-Shirt, or have a bumper sticker made. But do NOT watch this show!

minus9 said...

Elle :) said...
And for those of us who require some "lighter fare" now and then, I bring you the "Love is Only In The Pix" Recipe Compilation.

-Greed Eggs and Ham
-Hot For Teacher's Cherries
-Love Tap Punch
-No-Eat Cupcakes
-I'm Flagged Cake
-Old Grandma Who's No Longer In -Our Lives Soup
-Corn Frittering Our $ Away
-Quick & Easy Tipsy Tarts
-Pink Coed Tacos
-Jon's Famous Date Bread-Bred pudding
-Babe ghanoush
-Helloooo Jello
-Off of baby's back ribs
-Banotananny Bread
-Belittle Bits
-Freemeat loaf
-Who Would Give You Gumbo
-I scream for ice-cream
-Tator Tups
-Tabloid (Sue)Souffles
-Whine (Wine) Spritzers
(All made with no transplants(hair and boob) oops I meant transfat).

-She could call it "Love Tapas" and tie in some of sponsers:

-Health-Tex-Mex
-Harlem Globe Tater-Trotters
-Nacho Nannies
-Cole Haan-burgers

-Monkey (on my Back) Munch
-High Stakes Steak
-Jon's Big (Korean) Beef
-Old Grandma(less) Soup
-Easy Craft Services Buffet for 10
-Don't Bother Me Chef's Salad
-Did You Just Now Put Those On? BBQ
-Coooooold Fruit Salad - Yummy Yummy
-Exploitation Egg Salad Secrets
-I Want a Bagelllll Breakfast
-Laundryroom Floor Luncheonette
-The Easiest Boxes to Open When "Cooking".
-Kate's Hambone Soup
-Jon's Meatless Meat Balls
-Not so cheery-o's
-BULLogny SandWITCHES
-Love Is In the Chex Mix
-Jon's No-Nuts Pecan Cookies
-Split-Up Pea Soup
-Karmal Popcorn
-Banana We Are Spliting
--Fake Wedding Soup
-Make Your Mango slush
-Seven Lawyer Salad
-Grilled Con on the Cob
-Chubby Hubby Skewer
-Bitternut Squash
-Micromini Skirt Steak
-Mashed potatoes with gravy train
-Who Am I To Say No Hot Cocoa
-KONelloni
-White cake with Grey and Black frosting.
-Hot tea with Queen Bee Honey
- Rice Krispie Rare Treats
- Jon's Red Faced Snapper
- KONpound Butter
- Jon's Half-Baked Beans
- Gag Me With a Spoon Bread
- Kate's RhuBARB Pie
- Jon's (Heavy on the) Bourbon (Light on the) Balls
- Kate's Jerk-y
- Kate's D-Cup Salad
- Two-Fruit Salad
- Kate's Mac and Steve
- Kate's Breakfast Quickie
- Chicken a la QUEEN
-Not So Humble Pie
-Chili Kon Katie
-Kon Meal Bread
-Dump (your spouse) Cake
-Paparazzi Pot Pie
-Sheeple Smorgaboard.
-Sheeple Cole Slaw
-Sheeple Stew
-Sheeple Skewers
-Sheeple Snap Peas
-Sheeple Sandwiches
-Sheeple Salmon Patties
(Normally tastey treats but when prepared by Kate would be bland,tastless and lacks flavor because the ingredients in SHEEPLE are VERY SIMPLE).
-Kate's Shrew Stew
-Jon's Beer Battered Balls
-Tup's "You're Ruined!!!!" Drippy Ice Cream Delight
-Eight on a Shingle
-"I'm so Exhausted" Eggs Benedict
-Horrendously Horrendous Hummus

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Elle:),

I am dying..."Who would give you Gumbo" has to be the funniest thing I've heard all week long...

They are ALL great, but that one really got me. Hilariously hilarious.

LisaNH said...

You one thing that Kevin and Jodi said that really stuck in my mind was the fact that Kate, throughout the series, has preached about "making memories" for the kids. Kevin's repsonse to that was the type of memories the kids will have are that the only time Mom spent time with them was for filming. So what kind of memories are those?

Very valid point. Initially I wasn't too crazy about Jon either because he was in on the $$$ aspect too but as time goes on, I realize that he is the only one out of the two who is normal toward the kids. Kate is very much the type "Don't mess up my make-up, my clothes, your clothes, my kitchen etc...." while Jon just let the kids be kids as much he could.

zoey said...

As well, info on instituting IRS action: If you would like to see a Federal fraud case, this is where you can start: How Do You Report Suspected Tax Fraud Activity?

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what makes you so sure they are commiting IRS fraud? i sure they have all their T's crossed and their I's dotted when it comes to the tax man!
they should have inquirys done as to weather or not they fradulently took money from the public under false pretence

Wendy Bird said...

OriginalThoughts said...
the NY Post has an article about the child labor being looked into...

But what caught my eye most in the article, is it says that they are away from their home currently to getting a NEW KITCHEN INSTALLED...are u freakin kidding me? The last one was awesome. When will the madness end?
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Oh no...this may mean that Kate sees a "cooking" show from her home kitchen in the future. She is truly blindly going forward like none of this is happening.

4girlsoneboy said...

wendyzr said...

...I've posted this same theory before. That is what me meant about "kate knows what she knows" He is PI**ED that he looks like the bad guy when he had PERMISSION to do this. I don't think he ever dreamed paparazzi would be in PA. He thought he'd get away with it."
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I don't really think the paparazzi are in Pennsylvania. I think they have been tipped off about when they should come to Pennsylvania and I think if we knew who was tipping them off we would have the solution to this puzzle known as "Gosselin". We would know if we are being duped by both Jon and Kate along with TLC - by Jon as a way to get out of this show - or if Kate is setting him up as the fall guy.

minus9 said...

Has it been established that TLC did not approach the Gosselins for the specials & show, but rather that Kate made and shopped around a video?

That video being the one shown in the (I believe) "How We Got Here" episode, that shows Kate speaking to an unmanned camera, discussing her daily routine, and saying, "It's not a glamorous job, but if you look closely, it's very rewarding."

Elle said...

Elle:),

I am dying..."Who would give you Gumbo" has to be the funniest thing I've heard all week long...

They are ALL great, but that one really got me. Hilariously hilarious.


Thanks! That's one of the few I can claim as my own. The rest are from my fellow smart a$$es on this wonderful blog. Elle:)

Lost in Translation said...

Two spots on TMZ already today.
One about Jon buying a $500 bag for a lady, another about a bogus things of sending the kids to Switzerland.
And Octomom is getting her show.
I wish they would save the kids... but, they won't. Money is the root of all evil.

Shut It Down! said...

I think the whole "Jon cheating" thing was definitely a staged publicity stunt. They saw how the ratings skyrocketed at the end of last season when a little (fake) turmoil was thrown in and they planned this whole scenario for ratings. I think Jodi and Kevin were used by KON to stir it up even more. However, it worked so well that it has backfired now. As strange as it seems, TOO many people started taking notice (Dept. of Labor, psychologists, etc.) and this will be their downfall.

I also think the Jon/Alexis "tender moment" was as phony as the Kate/Collin moment. Did you see how Jon looked up at the camera with a "did you catch that?" look on his smug face? If any of this was real, he would have reacted with anger at the camera intruding on such a private moment, not smugness.

Don't get me wrong -- I definitely think Jon and Kate hate each other, but they both LOVE the money and neither of them will ever stop this show willingly. They will probably even get divorced (Kate to marry an older, wealthier man; Jon to marry another narcissist; and the poor kids shuffled in between until they are old enough to escape) BUT they will never, ever stop this show on their own accord. They do not care about their children's well-being at all. That is painfully obvious to anybody with a soul.

Tazz said...

Having seen the E special this morning at 10:30, the only thing that stood out was the brother of the woman from the alleged affair. He seemed so full of it and probably would have said anything for money. I read he doesn't have the best background, and his actions weren't believable. I don't think Jon's the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I highly doubt he would bring the girl he's having an affair with to his own house.Especially with other people there.

Tiffshorse said...

OK, I have been monitoring TLC for the last two days. Has anyone noticed that KON's existence is almost gone right now? I have seen exactly one commercial for the show last night and it hasn't been played (the show) at all. It isn't being shown all day today and it wasn't yesterday. Could it be that the worm has turned? I did see the "Moms" commercial twice which has sickeningly sweet K8 rolling around with one of the "icky" boys. How sweet and staged. Ick indeed, K8.

Not – A – Comment said...

I am in the process of compiling a list of entities that have in some way associated themselves with Jane and Hate in a support roll. The following list is what I have so far.

TLC, Discovery, Zondervan Corporation, Barnes & Noble, NBC (Today),
Oprah, Dr. Phil, Larry King, Rachel Ray, People Magazine, Juicy Juice, Gymboree, Gap, Proctor & Gamble, North Carolina, Jeep, Hawaii, Grand Wailea Resort Hotel & Spa, Utah, Park City Mountain Resort, San Diego, Lego (Legoland), Toy’s “R” Us, Disney, Disney World, Hershey (Chocolate World), Harlem Globetrotters, Philadelphia Phillies, Sesame Street (Sesame Place), Dutch Wonderland, Natural Acres Farm, American Girl, Sara Snow, Pittsburgh Zoo, Nannies 4 Hire, Tumblebus, Crayola, Bounce-U, Hands-On House, Strasburg Rail Road, Sight and Sound Museum, Good Housekeeping Magazine, Ladies Home Journal, St.Jude's Children's Hospital, "Please Touch" Museum, Chevron, Sprint, Huggies, Netflix, Lowes, Kitchenaid, Whirlpool, Coke-A-Cola, T- Mobile, Bank of America, Lexus, Party City, Walmart, Health Tex, Charm City Cakes, Emeril, American Chopper

Am I missing any? Thank you for your help.

Kelly said...

I know they had a record number of viewers, but I do not think that will hold steady. I used to watch the show with my kids. It was safe, family viewing.

Now it is not. We had recorded the season opener and sat down to watch it together. I had a knot in my stomach the entire time. Eventually, I had to fast forward through all the "couch" scenes.

First off, the kids found it boring, but also, my kids don't need to hear about divorce or problems in marriage.

The plus side, however, was it gave me an opportunity to talk to the kids and explain that this is "real life" for the Gosselin kids. That I would never have us on tv like that. My daughter couldn't understand why! I asked her if she would like every embarrassing moment of her life not only filmed, but shared with millions of people. She decided that maybe celebrity is not for her.

JonGotPlayed said...

wendyzr said... Jujubeoh said...

Here is my take on what's going on. Of the two parents, Jon is by far the parent who has the children's interest at heart. Kate can talk all she wants, but her big interest is fame and money. I believe she presented Jon with the "contract" six months ago, when she began the fling with the bodyguard. I'm thinking in the contract it stated Jon could date, and live a "single" lifestyle, as long as he acted married for the show. That's why when Jon says "I didn't cheat on Kate. I know what I know, and she knows what she knows.", he doesn't feel he was cheating since they signed the contract. He can't reveal this due to their contract with TLC.


I've posted this same theory before. That is what me meant about "kate knows what she knows" He is PI**ED that he looks like the bad guy when he had PERMISSION to do this. I don't think he ever dreamed paparazzi would be in PA. He thought he'd get away with it.
You hit the nail on the head. Kate knows Jon like the back of her hand and it was child's play for her to set him up for the fall. Her goal right from the start was to make herself look like the one who was wronged, the victim, the one the viewers should side with. If the viewers are unsympathetic toward Jon, then they won't care if he isn't in the show, therefore his absence won't negatively impact the ratings, and therefore he doesn't have any negotiating power in terms of money, meaning, more for Kate. She played Jon but good (not that he didn't deserve it).

twins241 said...

Not – A – Comment said...
I am in the process of compiling a list of entities that have in some way associated themselves with Jane and Hate in a support roll. The following list is what I have so far.


what about K Mart. I also can't remember the name of the place where they saw Thomas the Tank Engine. How about all the places they went for the day outings with the kids?

just wondering said...

I keep wondering why we are not hearing a thundering uproar from the people of PA.

It seems to me that they would be absolutely livid about having to pay for the births and care of the sextuplets and should be screaming their collective heads off for prompt reimbursement!

Jujubeoh said...

Shut it down said:

I also think the Jon/Alexis "tender moment" was as phony as the Kate/Collin moment. Did you see how Jon looked up at the camera with a "did you catch that?" look on his smug face? If any of this was real, he would have reacted with anger at the camera intruding on such a private moment, not smugness.

I think the look and shrug he gave was because he knew he wasn't being honest with Alexis when he said "Daddies have to go and work." I interpreted it as "What else could I say?".

UGH! said...

Not a Comment-

Crocs, Tonka , Live with Regis and Kelly, Bonnie Hunt, AT Loft, Banana Republic (parent company of GAP), the insurance (All State or State Farm?), Steve ? from the Going Green epi, the bakery from CupcakeGate, the furniture store from CollinGate, Ruby Tuesday's, the organic cow farm, People mag,EmTanner, the piano store, the art studio.

Tangerine Tanya said...

Elle:)

Thank you for posting all of the recipes. We do need a chuckle with all of this madness going on.

kateisdelusional said...

'I think the whole "Jon cheating" thing was definitely a staged publicity stunt.'

I, too, believe the initial tabloid hoopla about Jon cheating was a publicity stunt. But seeing the events as they have transpired over the past several weeks, I have come to the conclusion that IMO the negative tabloid press surrounding Jon cheating was initiated on behalf of KATE'S PR team in an attempt to make Kate appear the 'victim' and further her 'go at it alone' career. Kate was well aware of the fact, per her own admission, that their marriage turmoil started some 6 months ago ; 'they had grown apart' , 'were in different places', and Jon had reservations about continuing is role/character on the J & K + 8 reality tv show.
Even if Jon's alleged 'cheating' had never made it to the tabloid headlines, Kate and her PR team, as well as TLC, knew full well that at some point the 'truth' regarding the J & K marriage would be revealed. Considering Kate's notorious reputation of being the demeaning, verbally abusive, narcassistic, 'ball buster' fame whore that she is, if it werent for the tabloid headlines of Jon's alleged cheating one would assume that Kate was to blame for their troubled marriage. IMO, Kate and her PR team methodically and with full intention set the wheels in motion to make certain that JON be painted as the 'bad guy' and one to blame. If the JON 'cheating' scandel was truly a publicity stunt, the ONLY person in the position of advantage is that of Kate Gosselin! Kate knew her marriage was over and SHE needed a way to justify it all while preserving her 'image' and marketability potential. Blame it on JON and let the tabloids take it from there!

Merrilee said...

Lora said...
I don't agree that the Gosselin children are being exploited. All you have to do is watch an episode to see how much fun they are having on their outings or even the way they are interacting with the camera crew.

Kate makes it clear that no child is forced to be filmed. Mady didn't want her braces to be put on while cameras rolled, and they weren't.

Instead of all the attacks on Kate, let's hope and pray that the couple can work out their differences and we viewers can enjoy watching these beautiful children thrive and grow.

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Nothing would be as wonderful as having Jon and Kate see how far they have fallen, then take steps to correct all the damage that has occured, stop the filming, and go on to being a happy, thriving family.

As far as seeing how much fun they are having on their outings, I remember having seen a lot of crying going on, babies being forced into doing "fun things" instead of being in their own homes and sleeping in their own beds.

Babies thrive on love, not on "scheduled fun," that hasn't always really been that much fun. Now that they are older, they can appreciate some of the outings.

Mady's braces being put on without the cameras rolling was because of the huge amount of criticism TLC received when they did film Mady's appointment when she was told she would need them. That poor little girl was so humiliated.

That was just WRONG.

nanb said...

Lost in Translation said...
Two spots on TMZ already today.
One about Jon buying a $500 bag for a lady***
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TMZ is saying that they shopped in Cole Haan (same store that he bought the bag for Deanna).

I seriously have the feeling that this is a setup. Nobody would be that stupid! I looked up Figure 8 Films and two of their employees resemble those two chicks. Specifically Deanie Wilcher and Bergan Sipe as the two women Jon is going around drinking and shopping with. Remember Jon was reported to be at the Orange County Chopper store last weekend in Newburgh, NY thats why he was in upstate NY.

I believe KON/TLC/Figure8 are scamming us!

Jon and Kate ain't so great said...

wendyzr,

Yes I think that most of us remember Kate turning the light off on Collin when he was forced to sit on the potty until he peed.The same thing happened to Joel when he was sick.Kate turned off the lights in the laundry room and closed the door.

Sidney said...

I wish the E! show would have gone into things the fans won't acknowledge, like Kate NOT writing her books.

I wish they had included film about Beth and the flight to Utah where Kate lost all of her composure.

Kate is accustomed to controlling all situations, and there was no control on that flight.

just wondering said...

Another little tidbit from Al's Greater Reading blog...


The free stuff would be 1099 income if it was valued at over $600. Jon once complained on a multiples blog that he was sent a 1099 for the makeover that was done on their first house -- he was quite upset that he had to pay taxes on a 'gift'.

Sue said...

We, the people of PA, don't watch the show, therefore we don't contribute to the ratings. That in itself is the only thing that will shut this show down. As for tax reimbursements...on what? At the time of their births, it was a legitimate claim.

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I keep wondering why we are not hearing a thundering uproar from the people of PA.

It seems to me that they would be absolutely livid about having to pay for the births and care of the sextuplets and should be screaming their collective heads off for prompt reimbursement!

timetogokon said...

FYI.... the episode with the delicious food .... it's called Bulgogi...someone posted a request for the recipe...I've been making that for about 22 years now and it really pissed me off how she acted as though it was some great "Asian" secret recipe...
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Don't even get me started on the "Korean" dinner epi. I am 100% Korean and that episode was just chock full of K8's ignorance.

just wondering said...

Not – A – Comment said...
I am in the process of compiling a list of entities that have in some way associated themselves with Jane and Hate in a support roll. The following list is what I have so far.

Am I missing any? Thank you for your help.
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Serta Mattrss
Gap
Banana Republic
Old Navy
Johnson & Johnson
Mattel
State Farm
Olive Garden
Red Robin

RealMom said...

Mady Gosselin's meltdowns are attention getters for this show. I remember watching Super Nanny and waiting for the kids to meltdown as I watched in horror at the things that would do to their parents. It finally clicked (duh) that if these kids didn't act out, there would be no show or no job for Super Nanny (and I do like Jo
Frost). Nice, happy, well-mannered kids make for low ratings.

Jana said...

Lora said...

Instead of all the attacks on Kate, let's hope and pray that the couple can work out their differences and we viewers can enjoy watching these beautiful children thrive and grow* * *
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Lora, you seem like a very nice person. I don't agree with your perspective that the children are not being exploited, but I won't address that in this comment. Instead, I wanted to comment about your wish that viewers could continue to watch the children thrive and grow.

That's part of why I don't think weekly reality shows featuring children is a good idea, whether it be the Gosselins, the Duggars, or anyone else. People begin to feel like they know the family, and that it's okay to watch them live their lives.

However, how would you feel if it was your live being filmed all the time, with millions of viewers watching your every move, commenting on what you wore, how you talked, what you said or did, finding fault, laughing at you sometimes, posting to blogs about you, sending you presents like tee-shirts you really don't want to wear, etc. ??

I can tell you that as an adult, that would totally creep me out. Even Elizabeth from the view talked about her time on the show Survivor, how they had counselors or therapists for each contestant to speak with after their time on the show, to help them deal with being in the public eye for one season on the show. And they were adults, not children. Listen to her, someone who has been somewhat in those shoes, to get an idea of how weird and often unpleasant it can be!

None of us have the right to be entertained by watching children live their lives under a microscope. We all need to step back and ask ourselves, -- at what cost is my entertainment and "feel good" factor? Is it right that I feel entitled to watch these children grow up? What about the children? Please don't turn a blind eye to the effect on the children. Look into your heart and ask yourself -- would I really put my own children through this, year after year, 40 episodes per season (which is not a full 12 months mind you)?

Would you really and truly let the whole world watch your children grow up, including the creepy and scarier aspects of that population? Do you really think that is good for anyone, but especially young children?

I pray that nice people like you will take the time to really reflect on what the children might be going through, with their entire life being on show. I pray that you would perhaps have a dream wherein your life is on public view, and what it would really feel like to have people constantly filming you, staring at you, commenting on you. My best to you.

MM2005 said...

Zoey, you asked about possible tax fraud. Regarding an IRS investigation, I believe the discussion centers on tax evasion for potential unreported income.

Their book royalties and TLC income is of course automatically reported to the IRS. And, the cash donations given as "love offerings" might be considered gifts for tax purposes, and if so, may be exempt from tax -- although since the Gosselins lied to get the donations a different investigation may be initiated to handle that little problem.

The IRS focus could be on the $20 cash only fee for photographs sold at church speaking engagements, book signings and Teas with Kate, etc. Merchandise is being sold -- it is not a gift.

Since cash has no paper trail unless it is deposited into a bank account, there may be a temptation to pocket the money and not report it. We've seen cases in the past where sports figures sell autographs on baseballs, etc. at special fan events, and conveniently forget to report the cash received. The IRS certainly doesn't catch all of the infractions on their own, but they are sometimes alerted by concerned citizens.

KON may have reported every penny earned to the IRS, and may have nothing to worry about, but in the past Jon whined about receiving IRS 1099 forms for some of the merchandise donated by corporations for the family. That alone certainly doesn't prove there is any unreported income.

This should be easy to clear-up. Kate states the $20 fee for the photographs goes into the kids college fund, so there must be a record in the form of cash deposits made into the college accounts dated shortly after each scheduled church, tea and book signing event.

Yup, it should present no problem for KON to produce their bank records confirming the deposits and the proper reporting on their tax returns for the photo sales.

nanasez said...

I have kept a list of her activities and unless she flew out to CA very early in the morning in May went to a spa and came home on the red eye that same night, I don't know how she would have fit it in.
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Did she have any recent appearances in CA? Maybe she took Mady with her on one of her book signing legs, and they filmed the "San Diego Spa" stuff at that time - leaving out that it was really all part of a "business trip."

Terri said...

It is unbelieveable that the fans call this show something they can watch with their family.

If I had small children, I certainly would NOT let them see this crazy stuff.

What are some people thinking? The hateful way Kate can talk to others is not something I would want my kids to see. What kind of mother would?

just wondering said...

Sue said...
We, the people of PA, don't watch the show, therefore we don't contribute to the ratings. That in itself is the only thing that will shut this show down. As for tax reimbursements...on what? At the time of their births, it was a legitimate claim.

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I don't think that having fertility treatments to create children that you can't afford is a legitimate claim at all!

Yes, the state picked up the bill, but the parents are now in a position to act like responsible adults and pay the bill! Isn't that what the rest of us have to do?

Sally said...

I read today in the NY Post that their kitchen in their new home was getting a total renovation and they were staying away from their home this last week due to construction. Has anyone else read or heard this??

MM2005 said...

I have a question and hope someone can help. I remember reading a Pennsylvania newspaper article that featured an interview with Kate's mom. It was written either shortly before or shortly after the tups birth. I have looked but cannot locate the piece.

Does anyone else remember this interview with her mom? She said that as a young woman, Kate was obsessed with the McCaughey septuplet story and carried their book with her everywhere she went.

At the time, it seemed astounding that a woman obsessed with the story of a large multiple birth would then have one of her own.

Anyway, I'd like to re-read the article because I think it was the first and last interview her mom gave to a reporter, but I can't locate a link. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

EGGIBSON said...

Is this out of line to ask?
I have heard that Kate has had a breast augmentation! Now, I'm starting to notice in some of her newer pictures, it does sort of look like it?! Am I nuts? Or does she just have a really great bra?

Tazz said...

One thing I think people are overlooking is the new season's 40 episodes. Most half hour shows produce about 20 for a season, how many hours of footage will be shot to fill 40 shows. There's 52 weeks in a year,so when does shooting stop for this year and start for the next season(if there is one).Personally I hope they shut it down and get some serious counseling, but I'm just going by what's being reported.

so irritated said...

Elle, thank you for the recipe roll! Count my vote for #1 as well for "Who Would Give You Gumbo?" I haven't laughed so much in a long time :)

nanasez said...

Kate said that parents of multiples have triple the divorce rate?!?!

I thought the rate was 50% in the U.S.
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It depends on how the statistics are calculated. About 40% of first time marriages will eventually end in divorce. But in any given year, the percentage of existing marriages ending in divorce is much lower. Then even if one went with the 40% lifetime figure, there would be different "lifetime" rates for different groups of people. People who are childless are more likely to divorce than people who have children, for example. There's no way of knowing what kind of statistical comparison Kate's comment was referring to. It could be something as obscure as the five-year divorce rate of parents of single births versus parents of multiple births. There are all kinds of statistics out there, based on lots of different studies of varying degrees of validity.

To paraphrase the famous line, there are three kinds of falsehoods in the world. Lies, damn lies, and statistics. Not that statistics really "lie," but the context is so important that removing that context can cause the numbers to be misleading.

Jo Ann said...

EGGIBSON said...

Is this out of line to ask?
I have heard that Kate has had a breast augmentation! Now, I'm starting to notice in some of her newer pictures, it does sort of look like it?! Am I nuts? Or does she just have a really great bra?

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I guess we'll never know. I'm a good example - I'm...err...uh..."long in the boob" (old age) but a really really good bra can make all the difference. Underwire minimizer is my bra of choice! LOL

:-D

wendyzr said...

wendyzr,

Yes I think that most of us remember Kate turning the light off on Collin when he was forced to sit on the potty until he peed.The same thing happened to Joel when he was sick.Kate turned off the lights in the laundry room and closed the door.
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I'm horrified!

so irritated said...

I don't think there's much to be done with the fact that PA Medicaid paid for the births. They were both unemployed at the time.

What I think should be investigated is the Medicaid nurse. Jon and Kate appealed that case numerous times, insisting they couldn't pay for her themselves. According to Julie, they had a large inheritance in the bank from a rich relative, which we all assume is Jon's Dad. He had died 4 months before Nursegate. You are not allowed to receive public assistance (at least in PA) if you have funds in saving accounts or investment property/income. I bet this inheritance account was not in Jon or Kate's name to keep it untraceable. Nonetheless, they committed fraud by having the taxpayers of PA pay for a nurse they had the funds to pay for. This is no different than signing a $2 million contract for season 4 last year, then still pretending to be poor months later and taking love offerings from the sheeple.

Hater said...

ManicNarc,
i won't watch but check it out. I do remember the TMZ picture from Mr. Chow and Kate speaking to a group and telling them that Jon was back at the hotel with the kids. I think Jon flew home with all of the kids except for Mady.
As far as the interview goes, Jon and Kate have been on the outs since Spring break when Season 4 ended (March) until now. Remember he moved out, had a girlfriend and Kate did her People magazine cover in early May in time for Mother's Day. They clearly were still at odds. Why are they so chummy if the interview was filmed roughly between March 28 and end of May? I should watch but I won't because I think it is all a scam.I will be curious to see if anyone says anything.Thanks.

mamabear said...

I hope that the local, privately owned businesses that JK8 have been to don't get swept into the boycotts and complaints with the other businesses. I'm talking about the cupcake bakery, the ceramics place and Natural Acres Farm. If they've gotten publicity and more business from being on the show, then good for them. The women at the bakery should've gotten sympathy cards after that episode. The man from Natural Acres seemed geniune, he was nice to the kids. It's a working farm and bed & breakfast. The other businesses on the list are big corporations.

Maggie1 said...

I just saw in the new US magazine that Jon and Kate will be doing a show with the OC Chopper people.
There is a photo of Jon on his new chopper(he is dressed like a teenager!)nd they gave Kate a Vespa. Is that show on TLC as well? Why are they still getting free stuff--when they clearly can afford a chopper and a Vespa? Is this TLC's way of promoting their shows--by combining shows?

Lisbeth said...

Real Mom said: "Mady Gosselin's meltdowns are attention getters for this show. I remember watching Super Nanny and waiting for the kids to meltdown as I watched in horror at the things that would do to their parents. It finally clicked (duh) that if these kids didn't act out, there would be no show or no job for Super Nanny (and I do like Jo
Frost). Nice, happy, well-mannered kids make for low ratings.

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Real Mom: I don't want to make assumptions about what you mean by your comment. Do you feel that Mady is acting or do you feel that looking to keep things interesting is the reason why the crew films (and airs) the kids when they are upset?

I have a different theory on the kids being often upset. Mady, I think, is a smart kid and while not necessarily conscious of the pattern of behavior we have seen, I believe she does it so she doesn't have to participate in all filming (she missed out on feeding fishes and some skiing activities). Smart eh? (It is what her parents threaten her with, if you don't behave you can't go, and viola...she doesn't have to be filmed that morning while everyone else is filmed feeding fish).

AND, as a side note... I am very pleased to hear that the show is giving the girl more of a say when she is filmed. I thought filming the young kids at their first dentist trip, at a doctor visit and the older girls at an orthodonist was horrifying. Dr appointments can be full of anxiety, they don't need the added stress of being filmed and they need their parents FULL attention, not a couple that is more focused on making comments to a camera to narrate the experience. (Sadly,This scenario is being done again on Duggars show)

a few more ... said...

Kate uses an Apple iPhone

Nintendo Wii
Little Tikes

cubby1128 said...

Hi-I am not a fan of Jon and Kate but I love the green dress she had on last week! Does anybody know where she bought it at? Well I guess she didn't buy it, it was probably free. I wonder if it is from Talbots.

wendyzr said...

Sidney said...

I wish the E! show would have gone into things the fans won't acknowledge, like Kate NOT writing her books.
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YES! All that would have been more interesting. Exposing the Gosselins as well as TLC for this show.

Since US magazine works with E so much I am surprised they went along with the notion that Jon "quit working to be with the kids more" It was THEIR story when they interviewed his ex boss telling us that the real reason was that Jon was using company time to find freebies and working more the family "business" than the work he was paid to do. He did it for years and they got sick of it. Aren't there more excuses about that? Did the Gosselins say that the company would not insure the kids and that is why he quit? Or did they say he got fired? I'm all confused with all the lies.

If they got more into all the help the Gosselins really have now and on the show making it appear as if they do it all themselves and Kate really does not "make a meal, serve a meal and clean up a meal, and does that several more times a day" Give me a break!

They did show the brother saying "what are those kids gonna think when they get older and find out that all the activities, outings and b-day parties were not organized by their mom but by a production company"

A show about THAT would be interesting. Were they worried about TLC retaliating?

PatK said...

Good heavens, what was wrong with Katie's kitchen that she feels she needs a total renovation already? This woman just isn't going to stop.

Not – A – Comment said...

I am in the process of compiling a list of entities that have in some way associated themselves with Jane and Hate in a support roll. The following list is what I have so far.

American Chopper, American Girl, Anne Taylor Loft, Apple, Banana Republic, Bank of America, Barnes & Noble, Bonnie Hunt, Bounce-U, Charm City Cakes, Chevron, City of San Diego, Coke-A-Cola, Crayola, Crocs, Discovery Channel, Disney, Disney World, Dr. Phil, Dutch Wonderland, Emeril Lagasse, Em Tanner, Figure 8 Films, Gap, Good Housekeeping Magazine, Grand Wailea Resort Hotel & Spa, Gymboree, Harlem Globetrotters, Huggies, Hands-On House, Health Tex, Hershey (Chocolate World), Jeep, Johnson & Johnson, Juicy Juice, K-Mart, Ladies Home Journal, Lexus, Kitchenaid, Larry King, The Learning Channel, Lego (Legoland), Little Tikes, Live with Regis and Kelly, Lowes, Mattel, Nannies 4 Hire, Natural Acres Farm, NBC (Today Show), Netflix, Old Navy, Nintendo Wii, Olive Garden, Oprah Winfrey, Orange County Chopper, Park City Mountain Resort, Party City, People Magazine, Philadelphia Phillies, Pittsburgh Zoo, Please Touch Museum, Proctor & Gamble, Rachel Ray, Red Robin, Ruby Tuesday's, Sara Snow, Serta, Sesame Street (Sesame Place), State Farm Insurance, Sight and Sound Museum, Sprint, St.Jude's Children's Hospital, State of Hawaii, State of North Carolina, State of Utah, Strasburg Rail Road, T- Mobile, Tonka, Toy’s “R” Us, Tumblebus, Walmart, Whirlpool, Zondervan Corporation


Am I missing any?

Looking for product placements you have noticed in the TV show. Web site advertisers and TV advertisers would help too.

What attraction was “Thomas the Tank Engine” part of?

Do they use a certain Airline?

Does anybody know Steve Nied’s (sic) protection/purse carrying company name?

Personalities, name of company and “crossover show” involved in “the Going Green” episode?

Name of the bakery from CupcakeGate?

Name of the furniture store from CollinGate?

Name of the piano store and piano?

Name of the art studio?


Thank you for your help.

Lost in Translation said...

TMZ
3rd report on gosselin's today.
I try to bring them over to you as soon as I see them.

TMZ
Jon Gosselin to Barney: I Love You ...

Jon Gosselin was apparently trying to put out a fire in his pants yesterday -- a fire that was clearly burning a hole in his pocket, because he was spending like a mutha.

Now we find out he dropped more than $2,000 Friday at the Barneys CO-OP in the Riverside Square Mall in New Jersey. It's the same mall where one of the two women he was with dropped $595 at Tumi -- on a purse.

And spies at the mall tell us Jon and the two girls dropped in on Louis Vuitton, Cole Haan and Godiva. As one dude put it, Jon was decked out in cheesy Ed Hardy duds.

And now we're told the two women who accompanied Jon were the two chicks with whom he spent Memorial Day. We got this pic of the trio at Front Street Bar and Grill in Newburgh, NY.

From the looks of it, Jon was spending on Jon but not Kate Plus 8

Isn't it a shame that he doesn't put that money in the bank for the kids.... or for when they don't have a TV show, and he wants to stay home with them???????
what do you think??

UGH! said...

I think the look and shrug he gave was because he knew he wasn't being honest with Alexis when he said "Daddies have to go and work." I interpreted it as "What else could I say?".

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That's what I thought too. Probably one of the few really "real" moments. Personally, I thought Jon was fighting tears.

UGH! said...

Ooops, not Ruby Tuesday's but Red Robin. Thanks to the poster who listed this.

Also, Vtech.

wendyzr said...

MM2005 said...

Zoey, you asked about possible tax fraud. Regarding an IRS investigation, I believe the discussion centers on tax evasion for potential unreported income.

Their book royalties and TLC income is of course automatically reported to the IRS. And, the cash donations given as "love offerings" might be considered gifts for tax purposes, and if so, may be exempt from tax -- although since the Gosselins lied to get the donations a different investigation may be initiated to handle that little problem.

The IRS focus could be on the $20 cash only fee for photographs sold at church speaking engagements, book signings and Teas with Kate, etc. Merchandise is being sold -- it is not a gift.
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The IRS limits how much you can receive as a "gift" before they start taxing it as income. You can't receive unlimited "gifts" How much that "wealthy relative" gave them is unknown but may have gone over the limit. And yes the "love offerings" from people in all the churches they visited, who knows how much they made with that.

She has been scamming the public ever since the babies were infants in 05. You have all those message boards of the locals complaining about her begging to have them pay for her nurses.

AND putting their utility bills out there for the public to pay. What do you consider that? gift, income?

all it took was one count of tax evasion to put Al Capone in prison.

Who am I kidding though, nothing will happen.

gasmom said...

The green dress she wore is from Ann Taylor Loft. I know because I have this same dress in black and also coral - as comfy as can be, but for some reason, it is a little less, um...revealing...than it is on Kate.

More recipes:

-Earl Mr. Gray Tea
-Spicy Cinnamon Apple Kreider
-J&K (are) Bananas (and will) Split
-Exhausting Cream Cheese Frosting
-Kate's Hollering-daise Sauce
-Kate's Banana Nutjob Bread
- Chocolate Sundae with a White Plastic Chair-y on Top

Or if you don't feel like cooking, there's always...
-Korean TAKEout (and HANDOUTs)

Must stop and get back to work.

SundayRose said...

SoIrritated said, "This is no different than signing a $2 million contract for season 4 last year, then still pretending to be poor months later and taking love offerings from the sheeple."
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EXACTLY!!! I believe the scamming powers of Kate Gosselin are so severe, some cannot even begin to imagine how far she has gone in taking money from people. All the while, she kept up the pretence that they were poor. The show ET just aired, surely missed the mark on chosing to report about the alleged cheating vs. real issues like this.

Lost in Translation said...

You know.... all this spending, blowing on big cars, etc....
IS an NATIONAL CONCERN because, how much of that money was actually taxed?
All I can think about is a 90 yr old elderly person giving them a love offering of more than they could really afford...... being blown on fun, stuff we'd all like, but not at OTHER'S EXPENSE!

My biggest fear is that TLC will get right past the child laws, and they will have a big splash of being "redeemed." then I will puke.

RealMom said...

I do not think Mady is putting on an act for the cameras. I think she is "acting out" and I believe that is what makes good TV for some people. Mady is the one who always seems to act out and people want to see that. People are drawn to conflict (Omarosa, Janice Dickinson, Joan Rivers/Annie Page, Rosie O'Donnell/Elisabeth Hasselbeck. It keeps people tuned it. TLC knows that and I think it is disgusting that Mady has become a villain (those nasty websites dedicated to bashing this child) and they continue to milk her tantrums. They could choose to edit them out.

wendyzr said...

I've posted this same theory before. That is what me meant about "kate knows what she knows" He is PI**ED that he looks like the bad guy when he had PERMISSION to do this. I don't think he ever dreamed paparazzi would be in PA. He thought he'd get away with it.You hit the nail on the head. Kate knows Jon like the back of her hand and it was child's play for her to set him up for the fall. Her goal right from the start was to make herself look like the one who was wronged, the victim, the one the viewers should side with. If the viewers are unsympathetic toward Jon, then they won't care if he isn't in the show, therefore his absence won't negatively impact the ratings, and therefore he doesn't have any negotiating power in terms of money, meaning, more for Kate. She played Jon but good (not that he didn't deserve it).

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So some think that KATE tipped off the magazines to catch him.

Kate says "yeah date who you want, go out and drink, you have my permission"

He does so, she has him followed and calls the mags or has someone do it. Now new role for Kate: Kate the victim,

New show: Kate plus 8 Minus Jon (or whatever)

Remember last episode? Kate said "alone" how many frigging times?? Setting up for Spin off show?

Yeah Paparazzi do NOT hang out in PA. Someone told them there was a reason to be there.

I would not doubt it, yes she would do that even at the expense of her children.

Hmmmm....Interesting....

We said...

gasmom,
Loved it! Especially the one about the Mr.Earl Grey Tea and the Chocolate Sundae.

Hater said...

Just a thought why Kate did not appear on Dr. Phil or Oprah, but did appear on Rachael Ray (since all three are owned by Oprah): RR is a cooking/craft/fluff show. Oprah and Dr. Phil are not and they would have to talk to Kate about real issues in her life. Neither would have Kate on to cook, that's for sure. So it was intentional to not have her on.I still don't know who is protecting Kate or why?

OrganicFluff said...

Re: the IRS and the "gift tax"- The Federal Gov does not tax "gifts" of $10,000 (meaning, gifts of up to $10,000 are not counter towards the recipient's income for that year.) Anything above $10,000 should legallly be reported as income, and taxed accordingly. However, I believe that this applies only to gifts from a single source. So for example, if a person's mom gave them $10,000 and then a friend gifted them $10,000 in the same year, none of it would have to be included in that person's yearly income. If I had to guess, that "single source" rule is how Kon avoided reporting the Love Offerings- because multiple people contributed.
However, Wendy is correct that the $ from selling photos would have to be reported since that is $ made from selling a product, IMO.

Jujubeoh said...

EGGIBSON said...
Is this out of line to ask?
I have heard that Kate has had a breast augmentation! Now, I'm starting to notice in some of her newer pictures, it does sort of look like it?! Am I nuts? Or does she just have a really great bra?
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I have been wondering the same thing! If you compare pics from the past to current pics, there definitely appears to be a difference. The only thing is how could she have had it done without anyone knowing? I do remember in the tummy tuck show she asked the doctor about doing some breast work, and he said she didn't need it. Hmmmmmmmm

SarahP said...

I'm a long time reader but have never posted before. I live in Nyack NY and was out today (5/31) walking around going to a restaurant on main street. When who comes walking out of a cafe but Jon Gosselin. I literally did a double take at first because I wasn't sure if it was him. I was with my boyfriend and we were both certain it was him. He was just walking around with 2 women (no idea who they were). No sign of Kate of the kids anywhere. Just thought I'd share the siting since i was so surprised to see him around here randomly.

SarahP said...

Just to edit my previous post about seeing Jon. I meant to say that I saw him today 5/30* not 5/31.

anotherPAmom said...

just wondering said...
I keep wondering why we are not hearing a thundering uproar from the people of PA.

I think that since they are in a new tax bracket I would certainly hope they are paying more taxes than the average family here in Pennsylvania even with 8 little deductions. I'm just glad they are making a contribution instead of continuting to milk the system.

jen said...

Did anyone watch the E! Special? It said that they had the same production crew since the begining and consider them "extended family"

Did E! not do any research? Hardly anyone from the begining is there anymore, Kate said so herself that the boom mike guy was the only one left. WTF?

Anne said...

Not-A-Comment

I'm not sure what the state of Utah gave them? but they did get freebies from:

Utah Olympic Park, those bobsled rides are over $200 for a 60 second ride!
The tubing was at the Park City Mtn resort.

The Canyons resort in Park city for lodging.

The first episode when they got stuck on the plane to utah I think they were flying Delta?

just wondering said...

Does anyone know when Kate graduated from nursing school and approximate timeline that she worked in the labor and delivery ward?

The McCaughey tups were born in 1997 and Kate is obsessed with them. She gets married in 1999 and goes for fertility treatments within 3 months.

Call me a conspriracy theorist but I think she was disappointed with only having twins.

My theory is that she ratcheted up her game and did some studying while at work but I don't have a timeline for this.

Can anyone help me out with this?

UGH! said...

I do remember in the tummy tuck show she asked the doctor about doing some breast work, and he said she didn't need it

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Actually the good doctor told K8 to get a good bra - K8 was not pleased. Great moment!

ratherbkayaking said...

I think you can add PetSmart to the list of companies that are padding the Gosselin's slide into hell. That made me really sad to see that's where Kate was caught after the paps (p-people) got the "head's up" phone call to follow Kate around.

zoey said...

i think your all pursuing a dead end issue regarding the IRS.
im no tax expert by anymeans however, im willing to bet those two are squeeky clean when it comes to their taxes.
perhaps not in the past, but certainly now.
and its being misinterepreted about the gift tax. CERTAINLY (and i used to do payroll so this i know) you can tax small gifts. for example, if an employee got a 25$ gift card to the coffee shop for a job well done, that IS taxed. (its up to the company to determine who pays that tax... sometimes they are nice and pay the tax, sometimes, the employee pays the tax) and also you should know that non profits and churches have slightly differnt tax policys where the irs is concerned.

so irritated said...

"EGGIBSON said...
Is this out of line to ask?
I have heard that Kate has had a breast augmentation! Now, I'm starting to notice in some of her newer pictures, it does sort of look like it?! Am I nuts? Or does she just have a really great bra"?


She defintely looks like she had some work done. People always ask when she would have had time for surgery. Looking at her past speaking engagement lists, she had nothing during the entire month of February.

zoey said...

addition to my previous post...
im just wondering if people are talking about IRS because was there an article or something i missed saying they are being audited or are people just wishing they would get audited?

marigold said...

I really believe Jon and Kate are conning us all. Sure, their marriage is probably rocky, but they are adding fuel to the fire in order to cash in more and more.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if TLC does set Jon up in his own apartment. This will add so many more episodes---some with Kate, some with Jon and how they are coping living apart and then spending time with the kids, etc.

Then, you will see Dr. Phil or some other scumbag therapist enter the picture and we can watch them work thru all of their issues.

Then Jon and Kate (or just Kate) can continue touring around to the churches etc, and even become a motivational speaker about how they are working their way back to one another, etc. And books will be written about all of this too.

This could go on for years! All the while the Gosselins will be cashing in big time. They'll even say how they were blinded by the money and fame and have now come to realize that their marriage and family are what is most important. Of course, they'll still continue to cash in at every opportunity.

This whole sham is ALL about Kate and Jon collecting as much money as they can off of the backs of their kids.

SundayRose said...

Jen, I watched the E! Special and it was really silly. I agree with you on the lack of research. Maddening! Jane Velez Mitchell's show Issues is just as bad. I'm not going to watch those shows anymore for that reason.

And, E! concentrated on the alleged affairs, knowingly leaving out the contract Kate had drawn up per Jodi and Kevin. Then, Jane Velez Mitchell was supporting Kate (GAG).

Michelle1 said...

This should be easy to clear-up. Kate states the $20 fee for the photographs goes into the kids college fund, so there must be a record in the form of cash deposits made into the college accounts dated shortly after each scheduled church, tea and book signing event.

What college fund? I thought the State of PA provided for them?

so Jon gets 5.00 and the tups split 20.00 per pic. Are the twins compensated in some way?

pammyg said...

After seeing the latest interview with Kevin and Jodi, I felt compelled to send comment to Discovery/TLC. Maybe if they get flooded with viewers complaining, perhaps something might change. Please consider sending comment to Discovery/TLC, for the sake of the children. As much as I enjoy all the hard work you all do to keep this blog running, I would like nothing more than to have there be no need for it.

Dear Discovery/TLC:
I am writing to express my feelings regarding Jon and Kate +8. I have been watching the show for over a year not thinking much other than the fact that the kids are so cute. Little by little though, I began being unable to tolerate Kate's attitude and treatment of Jon, so I decreased the amount of shows watched. In recent months, I have realized how wrong it is to put these kids on display a la the Dionne quintuplets or "The Truman Show."

I no longer watch the show, and in all honesty, I'm not very happy with the current programming of TLC. I remember back in the days when TLC really meant "The Learning Channel." When my children were young, we enjoyed the AM educational programming. Now, TLC seems more like "The Freak Show Channel" or a pseudo reality channel. Perhaps a name change is in order; I see very little educational anymore.

As the Gosselin family seems to be imploding, the last thing they need are TV cameras. If Jon and Kate don't have the sense to stop further damage to their family, TLC should do so. For the sake of these eight beautiful children, please consider this.

Thank you for considering my viewpoint.

Sincerely,
PG
Michigan

Wondering said...

MM2005: I can't answer your question, but I'll tell you what I thought was odd. Several times Kate made the comment, "I just had a feeling I couldn't conceive." What??? How is it that you "have a feeling? That never made sense to me that you could have a feeling even before consulting a Dr.

Leah4Prez said...

What happened to Three Farmers? I miss her wit and insight.

SDK said...

To Sarah P who said:

SarahP said...
I'm a long time reader but have never posted before. I live in Nyack NY and was out today (5/31) walking around going to a restaurant on main street. When who comes walking out of a cafe but Jon Gosselin. I literally did a double take at first because I wasn't sure if it was him. I was with my boyfriend and we were both certain it was him. He was just walking around with 2 women (no idea who they were). No sign of Kate of the kids anywhere. Just thought I'd share the siting since i was so surprised to see him around here randomly.

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You are right. TMZ has pictures of Jon with both women.

concerned wife and mommy said...

Wow - looking at the message board post from Jon that shrinkydink posted.... it sounds like at that time, they had a good relationship - Jon was trying to think of ways to help Kate and make her feel better. At that time, they did not have the money and fame and all the trappings that they have now. But they had each other, they had relationships with family... basically, they had love around them. They traded in money for love. I wonder if, looking back, they would make the same choices knowing where they would end up. They may be financially very well off, but it sure came at a high price.

Naj said...

As for Maddy--
One of the reasons I quit watching the show was once, after one of Maddy's outbursts, Kate was talking about her.

In earshot of the child. Basically it was disturbing to hear a mother discuss her child with such pure contempt--- and Maddy could hear every word!

If she's still acting out, it might be because she believes her hates her. Which is pretty much the way I took the Kate schpeil.

Carly said...

Kate had a speaking engagement in Indiana in February.

SarahP said...

In response to SDK,

I just looked on TMZ. and the 2 women pictured with Jon look like the same people I saw him with today. I wonder who they are...

lindahoyt said...

I have been thinking about this show.

Does anyone think that perhaps the kids are actually better off with cameras in their faces? That Kate would have actually been a much worse mother and person, without camera's following her every move?Perhaps that could be one reason Jon agreed to do this.

Jon said on the show, how he liked other people around...liked to have the crew around every day. They were probably the only ones who showed him any kindness and talked to him like a humanbeing! Can you imagine how Kate acts when no one is there?

We all have read the story told by Jon's former boss, about her risking her 6 babies to get out of bed and go to Jon's office to throw a tantrum because Jon's Dad did not get her lunch on time! I would bet money that the truth is Jon lost that job because Kate called there all the time, yelled at whomever answered the phone and insisted that Jon do what SHE wanted him to do: look for all those freebies. I bet the boss had had enough of HER!

I actually think it is good that Jon and the kids have her tirades documented.

Naj said...

If my spouse spoke to me in the manner that Kate speaks to Jon, the'd be contemplating not being my spouse anymore.

Once, maybe Kate could get a pass, but week after week of her virtually castrating him is unforgivable.

It's what turned me off the show, as well as several of my friends. It's repugnant.

PR in PA said...

I think TLC thought all this attention would be good for the show but I think it backfired. There is NOTHING positive coming out of this..the media isn't on their side. Kate is being shown for who she really is ..a witch. There is no sympathy for her. The stories I see on these magazines show sympathy for Jon and the kids.

I didn't watch the season premiere last week but from the pictures I saw, Jon looks horrible! I kind of feel sorry for him now. They may have had the highest ratings ever but I think that is a one time thing..esp. when people see how messed up the show is.

A couple of my coworkers who watched it were disgusted by it..plus me filling them in on all the other stuff they may not know helped. lol...

Pony said...

Someone said: "The IRS limits how much you can receive as a "gift" before they start taxing it as income. You can't receive unlimited "gifts" How much that "wealthy relative" gave them is unknown but may have gone over the limit. And yes the "love offerings" from people in all the churches they visited, who knows how much they made with that."

Not exactly. The IRS limits how much money one person can give to another in a calendar year, but the giver is the one who pays gift tax, not the recipient. You can certainly receive unlimited gifts. There are also exclusions per the IRS: "The annual exclusion applies to gifts to each donee. In other words, if you give each of your children $11,000 in 2002-2005, $12,000 in 2006-2008, and $13,000 on or after January 1, 2009, the annual exclusion applies to each gift." (irs.gov) So as long as no one gave them more than one of those amounts, nobody would have had to pay any gift tax at all. The fees for signing books, however, are considered income because they are part of a transaction.

komGOaway said...

UGH! said...
Ooops, not Ruby Tuesday's but Red Robin. Thanks to the poster who listed this.

Also, Vtech.

Microsoft!!

wendyzr said...

marigold said...

I really believe Jon and Kate are conning us all. Sure, their marriage is probably rocky, but they are adding fuel to the fire in order to cash in more and more.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if TLC does set Jon up in his own apartment. This will add so many more episodes---some with Kate, some with Jon and how they are coping living apart and then spending time with the kids, etc.

Then, you will see Dr. Phil or some other scumbag therapist enter the picture and we can watch them work thru all of their issues.

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On CNN last night In touch Mag said that a "reliable source" said they are looking for an apt that is "camera ready"

take it with a pinch or handful of salt but I would not doubt it.

Amanda said...

Not-A-Comment,
They fly Southwest! As manifested by the ski trip epi and back when I lived in Maryland I saw them on a Southwest flight out of BWI:)

It's a shame, I really LIKE Southwest...

lindahoyt said...

shrinkydink...that forum entry from Jon makes me so sad...

That Kate is a complete fool! Jon was a wonderful man. She was lucky to have him.

I hate to hear that he is out boozing and spending gobs of money. But, spending gobs of money, is just exactly what a passive-agressive person would do to exact revenge on a person like Kate.

Funny how her name is the same as the title character in Shakespeare's "Taming of the Shrew"...isn't it? Jon should see that play...or the movie with Elizabeth Taylor. Yes, he should...

lindahoyt said...

I have said it before, and I will say it again. Jon needs to stay in the house...stay on the property!! Kick Kate out! Get HER an apartment.

Get a lawyer. I hope one of those ladies he was with in New Jersey is a lawyer. HE is the custodial parent. His kids need him, more than they need their Mom. He is the (most) nurturing one.

He can not abandon them! He must not do it.

PR in PA said...

pammyg said...
After seeing the latest interview with Kevin and Jodi, I felt compelled to send comment to Discovery/TLC. Maybe if they get flooded with viewers complaining, perhaps something might change. Please consider sending comment to Discovery/TLC, for the sake of the children. As much as I enjoy all the hard work you all do to keep this blog running, I would like nothing more than to have there be no need for it.

Dear Discovery/TLC:
I am writing to express my feelings regarding Jon and Kate +8. I have been watching the show for over a year not thinking much other than the fact that the kids are so cute. Little by little though, I began being unable to tolerate Kate's attitude and treatment of Jon, so I decreased the amount of shows watched. In recent months, I have realized how wrong it is to put these kids on display a la the Dionne quintuplets or "The Truman Show."

I no longer watch the show, and in all honesty, I'm not very happy with the current programming of TLC. I remember back in the days when TLC really meant "The Learning Channel." When my children were young, we enjoyed the AM educational programming. Now, TLC seems more like "The Freak Show Channel" or a pseudo reality channel. Perhaps a name change is in order; I see very little educational anymore.

As the Gosselin family seems to be imploding, the last thing they need are TV cameras. If Jon and Kate don't have the sense to stop further damage to their family, TLC should do so. For the sake of these eight beautiful children, please consider this.

Thank you for considering my viewpoint.

Sincerely,
PG
Michigan

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Excellent letter!!!

Madeline for President said...

Have you ever seen pictures of Jon really happy while he's out? People have definitely noticed how defeated he's looking these days.

The break-up wasn't his decision, never was. Again, with a lot of other things it was decided for him.

Personally i think the greatest thing is that Mrs. Kate Gosselin will probably be regretting the treatment she gave her husband when her kids are finally of age.

If there is money to made, it will surly be in a tell all memoir from at least one of those children.

My bets on Madeline.

Miss Brows Betti said...

I dont understand this and maybe somebody can help me out. Kevin and Jodi did say that they still communicate with Jon and Kate. However you would think that Kate would be livid hearing the opinion coming from her brother and sister in laws mouth.

lindahoyt said...

I have no doubt that the Gosselins had a separation agreement 7 months ago.

But, Jon should not have agreed to it, nor broken his own vows. We all must answer to our maker. And he will not be able to plead that his "wife made him do it"....Adam tried that with Eve---didn't work.

Jon has seen Kate at work, cutting people out of her life. Did he really think he would be different? When she was "done"...she wanted him to do exactly what he did. Go out and get caught. And then she could do exactly what she did, pretend to be the injured party.

He is a real fool if he continues to play into her hand, and moves out of the house. She is going to try and cut him completely out of all their lives. She is going to want her new boyfriend to be the "perfect husband" for the tv show. Only then, can she revive her "career" as a wonderful homemaker.

Allissa said...

PLEASE!!!!! DO NOT watch the show anymore. The couple of people on here that do recaps will watch and their recaps are SO specific, I don't even feel like I didn't watch the show! I could visualize every snide remark made by Kate and moan by Jon. Truthfully, what is going to bring KON and TLC down, is loss of interest and ratings of the show. You can do it! I haven't watched any of the last season. YOU CAN DO IT! Really, this blog gets you through it!!!

Carol said...

I have so much stuff that I would love to vent about, but it would take pages - there is one incident that has been bothering me a lot lately...the supporters of Kon, who say the children aren't in any emotional danger from this show...I ask them to look at the episode where Kate and Jon are discussing the kids teeth and specifically Mady - that poor girl. Not only do they go on and on about how bad her teeth look, but in the interview they go to horrible lengths of making fun of her teeth. Kate wiggles her hand in front of her mouth and makes slurpy noises like Mady is a snaggletooth and then goes so far as to say they should all be pulled out and Jon goes into a 12 year old drilling pantomime. I wanted to die for Mady when I saw that. WHO MOCKS AND POKES FUN OF THEIR CHILDREN ON NATIONAL TV??? Do these two not remember how cruel kids can be and how self conscious adolescence is?!?!? Having your parents do it on national TV, nah, that's not a big deal. There's so many more examples, but this is the one that I replay over and over again.

MM2005 said...

Ah, a tax discussion -- what a fun way to spend a Saturday afternoon.

The gift tax exemption is currently (2008) on the first $12,000 gifted to an individual from another. AND, in true IRS form, contrary to logic, it is the person GIVING the gift that pays the tax, NOT the person receiving the gift.

Now, the speaking fee paid would be taxable to KON, the fee paid to Kate for her presence at one of her "Teas" would be taxable to KON, but a kind soul throwing $10 on a collection plate for the Gosselin's is not necessarily taxable to KON. Of course it would be viewed differently if their contract to speak at a church included a MANDATORY passing of the collection plate -- then it would definitely be considered part of their paid compensation and would be taxable. But it is an entirely different matter if someone in the congregation spontaneously was moved by the pack of lies KON shared and wanted to gift them.

Regarding the example of an employee receiving a $25 gift card for a job well done -- that is considered compensation and is reported as income to the IRS, just like a Christmas bonus, raises, etc. The love offerings are a gift, presumably between individuals with no business relationship.

The State of Pennsylvania reportedly set up college accounts when the tups were born so interested citizens could donate for their college tuition. These accounts were NOT funded by the state, just opened by the state.

The accounts are similar to an IRA retirement account with penalties for early withdrawl, etc. but no one knows if the public contributed to the accounts because there was much disgust with the entitlement the Gosselin's expressed in media interviews after the tups were born.

Those newspaper articles are on Julie's blog site (noted on the right side of the GWOP home page.) The comment sections are an eye-opener. The vast majority of the citizens of PA were outraged at the Gossselin's expectations for help -- and this was before the birth of the TV show.

Anyway, a big question is whether those accounts have any money in them. Kate fostered the questions by her comments that the $20 cash fee for the photographs were for the kids college fund.

My only point is that when people speak of getting the IRS involved in an investigation, the most fertile place to check might be those cash photo sales.

wendyzr said...

SundayRose said:

EXACTLY!!! I believe the scamming powers of Kate Gosselin are so severe, some cannot even begin to imagine how far she has gone in taking money from people. All the while, she kept up the pretence that they were poor. The show ET just aired, surely missed the mark on chosing to report about the alleged cheating vs. real issues like this.

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Yeah don't you think this is more of an issue than the cheating? ESPECIALLY since the network is involved with misrepresenting the Gosselins. That is fraud!

ProtectTheKids said...

cubby1128 said...
Hi-I am not a fan of Jon and Kate but I love the green dress she had on last week! Does anybody know where she bought it at? Well I guess she didn't buy it, it was probably free. I wonder if it is from Talbots.
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I saw what I believe to be those dresses last week at Ann Taylor Loft. In the People Magazine (of a few weeks ago when she was on the cover) she appears to be wearing the same dress in a coral/orange color.

WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND said...

I find it ironic that Mr and Mrs Gosselin are complaining of

a) cameras following them around,
b) being photographed without the permission,
c) being criticized for their behaviour to a national audience,
d) other people profiting or making money off of them
and otherwise being under the scrutiny of the press.

Isn't this the same thing the parents have done to their minor children?

Now they get a chance to experience it firsthand.

ihatethisshow said...

two more deliciously delicious recipes....

chicken KON carnage

curds and NO WAY!!!!!!!!

:)

who would give you gumbo...BRILLIANT!

Anna said...

Dan Savage, the sex columnist, has a post in his blog about Jon and Kate, and how he has been offered a reality show but turned it down for fear of what it would do to his boyfriend and their adopted son:

http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/05/30/you-are-a-piece-of-shit-media-whore-who-will-do-anything-to-get-on-tv-and-you-brutally-exploit-the-child-you-adopted-son-to-cash-in

There is some mild swearing on the page - Dan is not known for censoring himself.

(Mods: if you think this isn't an appropriate link - there is no sex talk, just some swearing - or if this isn't the right place for this, feel free to move it or not post it)

MM2005 said...

Wondering said...
MM2005: I can't answer your question, but I'll tell you what I thought was odd. Several times Kate made the comment, "I just had a feeling I couldn't conceive." What??? How is it that you "have a feeling? That never made sense to me that you could have a feeling even before consulting a Dr.
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I share your suspicion about Kate, and what an odd statement to make when you are an RN. It is one of the reasons I'd like to re-read that newspaper interview her mother gave the PA paper. And, I always wondered why her mother never spoke to the media after that interview -- perhaps she said too much and Kate muzzled her? Well, muzzled her before she completely cut her off from her grandchildren.

At the time, I thought it was an amazing coincidence, that she was obsessed with the McCaughey story and then had a large multiple birth of her own, but now, after reading other posters comments about the sequence/timing of her infertility treatments, coupled with her knowledge as an RN, I am wondering if she didn't orchestrate the multiple births for fame and fortune. The twins didn't reach a McCaughey sized birth, so she had to try again.

Creepier still, if you read the Wikipedia page about the McCaughey's (link below) they also speak at churches and refused selective reduction.

Kate used two of the McCaughey kid's names on the tups -- Alexis and Joel. Also, there was information about all the freebies the McCaughey's received including a large van and an over 5,000 square foot home.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCaughey_septuplets

If Kate was obsessed with their story, was this all planned long before she met Jon?

SundayRose said...

Wendyzr said, "Yeah don't you think this is more of an issue than the cheating? ESPECIALLY since the network is involved with misrepresenting the Gosselins. That is fraud!"
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I sure do think it is. The media needs to concentrate on the GREED of the Gosselin empire, and perhaps we'll see this emerging once they've had their fill of reporting on the affairs. Hope so, because there surely is a whole lot to report!!!

JenTru said...

Sorry if someone posted this already, but on the cover of this week's People there is a little picture of Hate and it says, "Kate Gosselin, her lonely new life." The article inside just says the poor woman had to go to Starbuck's by herself. Way to seel magazines, People! (I have a subscription-I did not buy it because of Kate) Poor, lonely Kate. No one to play with but the eight kids she loves so much. Karma is a bitch.

HannaBelleLechter said...

SarahP said..."I'm a long time reader but have never posted before. I live in Nyack NY and was out today (5/31) walking around going to a restaurant on main street. When who comes walking out of a cafe but Jon Gosselin."
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SarahP, I posted a link in the News Link thread last night:

http://www.tmz.com/tag/Kate+Gosselin/

This link shows photos of Jon with friends in a NYS bar over Memorial Day; and Kate and kids on a ferry in NC.

Accompanying Kate and the 8 are Mr Gray and Mr Brown, the bodyguards, as well as a youngish woman (probably the nanny) who holds the hands of two of the girls. Nanny is wearing a Liberty University hoodie; LU is a Baptist, evangelical Christian uni (founded by Jerry Falwell). So I suppose Kate is keeping up appearances and ties to her church supporters.

Wasn't NC discussed as the state where the Gosselins had originally wanted to build their new home? I wonder if it's coincidence that the family is in NC over Memorial Day or were they scouting for another new house? I also wonder if they were filming for TLC or if this was a family vacation?

Kate cannot say that she's caring for her children "all alone." She has an entourage at all times. Mr Gray looks to be holding hands with a couple of kids and directing traffic; I think Mady is hanging by him, too. And Mr Brown seems to be helping with a tote filled with pink towels, as well as holding other kids' hands.

Is Jon gone now for good? If so, he cared only about himself and not the situation concerning the children.

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Patty said...

Wow MM2005, it could be true that Kate never loved Jon nor any of her kids... she just planned it all for the money and material stuff! No wonder she did not care when Collin had impacted poo poo!

KONspiracyTheory said...

The McCaughey tups were born in 1997 and Kate is obsessed with them. She gets married in 1999 and goes for fertility treatments within 3 months.

Call me a conspriracy theorist but I think she was disappointed with only having twins.

My theory is that she ratcheted up her game and did some studying while at work but I don't have a timeline for this.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Exactly! I totally agree with this theory! I bet she was pissed when she only got twins the first time round, but then having 2 sets of multiples was the jackpot! And I think it is the only reason she went into nursing, to get the low down on fertility drugs.

Also I have been thinking about that 7th baby that didnt make it. Does anyone know how far along she was when she lost it? I bet she was very dissapointed when her cash cow went from 7 to a meager 6 babies! UGH!

These kids are so great, and I bet Bobby & Kenny McCaughey would give anything if all of their kids were as healthy as the Gosselin kids. Not to say that they are not greatfull, but 2 of their kids do have isssues.

I also have been wondering how all this scandle will resonate with the Masche Miracles starting their own show on WE in 2 weeks. It is in full swing, you can see lots of clips on the website. I like those parents, but still the kids are being put out there for the love of money! Sad but true.... I hope they dont get greedy too.

What you all think?????

Goldengirl said...

But what caught my eye most in the article, is it says that they are away from their home currently to getting a NEW KITCHEN INSTALLED...are u freakin kidding me? The last one was awesome. When will the madness end?

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It's for the "Not the Chef" to cook all their organic meals in. Emeril probably made some comment about the stove or something and now Kate needs a whole new kitchen.

Sigh.

Clair said...

Do they use a certain Airline?

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It seems like they might have taken Southwest for their trip to Utah.

But now they go first class, so maybe Southwest is beneath them.

Nancy S said...

marigold said...
I really believe Jon and Kate are conning us all. Sure, their marriage is probably rocky, but they are adding fuel to the fire in order to cash in more and more.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if TLC does set Jon up in his own apartment. This will add so many more episodes---some with Kate, some with Jon and how they are coping living apart and then spending time with the kids, etc.

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I read somewhere that they were looking for a "video-friendly" apartment for Jon.

JJ said...

I did not read all the lists of products associated with KON but I would not be so quick to add Apple to the list.

They are cheap with their products and discounts IMO (for example, Best Buy employees, who get discounts on just about everything, do not get any kind of Apple discount)

I don't think they donated iPhones to KON. I know it's hard to believe but they do have to pay for some stuff. So don't boycott or hate on companies/products just because KON owns or uses them. Stick with obvious things that are focused on on the show and are known donators (Whirlpool for example)

my9cats said...

Wow considering that Kate doesn't cook it's nice of her to have a new kitchen built for the not-a-chef, not-a-nanny, and anyone else that might enter the manse.

silimom said...

According to Julie, they had a large inheritance in the bank from a rich relative, which we all assume is Jon's Dad. He had died 4 months before Nursegate. You are not allowed to receive public assistance (at least in PA) if you have funds in saving accounts or investment property/income. I bet this inheritance account was not in Jon or Kate's name to keep it untraceable.

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My husband and I have our estate plan set up so that our children have trusts in the event of our deaths. There are very specific guidelines for what those funds can and can't be used for. In our case, the trusts are set up this way because our children have special needs. However, it could very well be that Jon's Dad set up his trust with restrictions as well, especially if he had Kate and Jon's number. Also, it could have been that, since he'd been helping them out while he was alive, that he had that money he'd already given them taken out of Jon's inheritance and paid back into the trust. This could be why Kate wouldn't let Jon talk to his brothers.

That's all speculation, however, it was just a thought that occurred to me.

Scamming is Her Job said...

GoldenGirl said, "It's for the "Not the Chef" to cook all their organic meals in. Emeril probably made some comment about the stove or something and now Kate needs a whole new kitchen.

Sigh."
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LOL! Probably..... And of course Kate lied again when she told Emeril that he was the only other person cooking in her kitchen besides herself. OMG! Kate, we know the truth.....we know you have an organic full time chef. Get a clue, lady!

Patty said...

I didnt get Whirlpool for my washer and dryer. I went for GE. The salesman was trying to sell the Whirlpool to me and my husband and it was the same one as delivered to Kate's mansion. I whispered to my husband that those were the ones Kate have and so we chose the GE ones. They were cheaper too, by $50 each!

If they are looking for camera-friendly apartment for Jon, then wouldn't he be still filmed? Doesn't that defeat the purpose coz Jon doesn't want to be filmed anymore?

What I don't get is why Kate keeps saying there's no going back. She can always say no more but I think she couldn't let go of the material stuff and the money.

pinkdiamond611 said...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/30/opinion/30collins.html?em

An op-ed piece in today's NY Times.

wendyzr said...

Did Jon come from a wealthy family?

Everyone speculates his dad being the "wealthy family member" who took care of them with money in the bank.

Also Jon said he was doing absolutely nothing when he met Kate. 20 years old and just a bum. did he say he had traveled the world?

Can't imagine Kate being with a poor bum. A wealthy bum has potential, not a poor one.

realitybites said...

'Is Jon gone now for good? If so, he cared only about himself and not the situation concerning the children.'

Jon would earn alot more credibility from me if he were to say that not only does he have concerns for his own privacy and reservations about continuing a reality tv show, but as a parent, he also has concerns regarding the safety and privacy of his eight CHILDREN and take the appropriate measures to remove their participation in reality tv.

Goldengirl said...

I don't think they donated iPhones to KON. I know it's hard to believe but they do have to pay for some stuff. So don't boycott or hate on companies/products just because KON owns or uses them. Stick with obvious things that are focused on on the show and are known donators (Whirlpool for example)

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My friend's husband works for Apple. They don't even give their employees a discount when they purchase an iPhone, and he's been with the company over ten years. And believe me, Jon and Kate do not rank high enough on the "Hip" meter for Steve Jobs or any of the other higher ups to say "Hey, we really need to give THEM a phone".

Probably TLC or Figure 8 purchased them or the Gosselins purchased them themselves.

So I wouldn't go boycotting Apple. I think they're safe.

so irritated said...

RE: Kate and the Macaughey family
I have always thought Jon and Kate were trying to emulate the Mac. family. Everything sounded the same and they seemed to be keeping a scorecard to make sure they got everything the Mac's got. Especially the van and a house. The Macaughey's got a brand new home donated to them. All Kate got for her 30 weeks of bedrest (lol) was a horrendously horrendous renovation from a low budget makeover show. Not that Kate didn't persist on getting her free house. Here's a Dec. '05 "prayer request" by Kate herself on the SixGosselin website of Gimmees- "And as for our little house... I feel sorry for it! It has every nook and cranny crammed with something or someone! Needless to say, we're literally bursting at the seems! Our biggest prayer request at this time, is a house that we fit into and can afford... it's going to literally take a miracle...and for now, we'll keep praying!

Since the miracle didn't happen, the poor kiddos were paraded on TV for the world to see them be potty trained and shower. But Kate got her house didn't she? And it's HERS... for as far as she can see.

HannaBelleLechter said...

I've been following recent developments, as well as keeping up with GWoP and its various threads.

I believe the Gosselins and TLC, both, have reached a crossroads. With the glare of publicity surrounding the couple's marital problems, and all the extra attention being given by mainstream media outlets, "little" things that have sneaked under the radar of ethics and propriety will now be given much more attention. That's great news for the children's welfare.

The tragedy of a broken family will remain, however. All we need do is look at the Memorial Day photos to know that what once was, is no more. Jon is alone in NY, drinking a beer with a couple of women who look like friends or acquaintances, but no more than that. Meanwhile, Kate is in NC with the children, along with bodyguards and a nanny (or two).

The Gosselin family is no longer a unit. It's hard to know other people's hearts; actually, it's impossible. I would think that Jon and Kate could, if they wanted to, at least give their marriage one more try, one last gasp. But both would have to be willing. Judging by the way Kate cuts important people out of her life -- with surgical accuracy and swiftness -- I'm not hopeful that she would be willing to give her husband a chance to make things right again. And with circumstances enabling her to cut the marital ties -- that is, the money and TLC support to hire helpers of all varieties -- she's not a typical mom going it alone. Her incentive for taking back her husband would need to be a love-incentive, and I'm not sure that remains in Kate's view.

With all respect to my fellow bloggers here at GWoP, I would counsel all of us to take a breath and to pinpoint our focus on the children's welfare. We can keep up the writing campaigns, boycott sponsors, advise TLC of our concerns, etc.; whatever each person feels comfortable participating in.

But I think some of the accusations and anger are fruitless and misplaced. For example, accusing Kate and Jon of perpetrating a Ponzi-scheme fraud because of their solicitation of church-monetary-help makes accusers seem to be reaching. No one forced churches and their congregants to give love offerings or to buy books and DVDs. IMHO, there is no legal course of action for people who feel taken by a sob-story. People need to take responsibility for their own actions -- and their own gullibilities.

And the disapproval of Kate's new style also seems petty, to me. I've already gone on record here that I admire any woman who makes time for her health and appearance. Kate looks fit and healthy and her fashion choices have greatly improved. Surely, we women don't want to give the impression that we can only love or respect a fellow mom if she looks disheveled and greasy-haired, do we? Kate's looks are her own and make her happy, and I think we need to respect that and move on. Comments sadly longing for Kate's "sweatpants" days are a waste of energy and time.

Just my opinion and I know YMMV to the nth degree! ;) I'm just grateful that the Gosselin 8's life in the fishbowl is being observed more closely these days -- and really that's all that concerned people can hope for. Remember the tragedy of Willy Loman in Death of a Salesman? Remember what Willy's wife says to her sons about their father, her husband:

"Attention must be paid!"That's an important concept to remember whenever we think of the most vulnerable in our society -- children, the elderly, the poor and disadvantaged. We all MUST pay attention! I'm glad that the public-at-large IS finally paying attention to the children of J&K, and I'm hopeful that the kids' lives will become more stable and calm.

wendyzr said...

MM2005 said...

Those newspaper articles are on Julie's blog site (noted on the right side of the GWOP home page.) The comment sections are an eye-opener. The vast majority of the citizens of PA were outraged at the Gossselin's expectations for help -- and this was before the birth of the TV show.**************************

Yeah THIS is the stuff that should be on an E NEWS SPECIAL or discussed on Issues on HN, not the affair stuff. And you can only talk about this exploitation of the children for so long while nothing is being done about it.

THESE are the real issues.

How Kate NEVER wrote the book, Multiple Blessings, her friend did it ALL, kate told her the story. Her next book is a SCRAPBOOK with bible quotes. I've done that for my family on a weekend.
STOP CALLING HER AN "AUTHOR"!!!!!!

The show and all that is misrepresented there.

Who cares about the affairs? THAT is way more interesting.

wendyzr said...

KONSPERACYTHEORY said:
"Also I have been thinking about that 7th baby that didnt make it. Does anyone know how far along she was when she lost it? I bet she was very disappointed when her cash cow went from 7 to a meager 6 babies! UGH!"


I only saw 6 blobs on the ultrasound they have been showing forever. 6 "saucers" as Jon called it. I never heard about a 7th.

Lorraine said...

A new reader to this blog here.... I've been watching this show with my daughter for several seasons now, but no longer. Actually, I may watch one or two times more because I want to write down the commercials that I see so that I can write to those sponsors. After that, no more.

Since I'm a new reader here I'm not sure what's been mentioned and what hasn't.... but the episode that I particularly remember with sadness (in addition to that poor child -- I'm bad with names... Joel? -- lying on the floor of the laundry room when he was so sick...he should have been on his mother's lap being rocked) -- but the other one that was so sad was when one of them got gum on their "lovey" and Kate threatened to throw it away! omg.. so sad... think about your kids' loveys and how they cling to them and then imagine their terror if you threatened to throw it away!! My daughter was horrified at that episode and she's old enough to talk about it and to realize that I would never EVER do such a thing. But the kids on the show were little when that happened. So sad.

Anyway, I'm glad to find this blog. :)

ChinaMomof4 said...

Wondering said:
MM2005: I can't answer your question, but I'll tell you what I thought was odd. Several times Kate made the comment, "I just had a feeling I couldn't conceive." What??? How is it that you "have a feeling? That never made sense to me that you could have a feeling even before consulting a Dr.

It's impossible to explain rationally, but the same thing happened to me. My husband and I tried for 5 years to conceive, both naturally and with some fertility treatments, and I knew all along that I would not get pregnant. There was no medical reason; I just knew. We stopped trying and turned to adoption, and again, I knew that we would end up building our family that way. So as much as I don't like Kate, I can't argue with her on that point. Sometimes you just "know."

chesterctymom said...

Not – A – Comment said...
I am in the process of compiling a list of entities that have in some way associated themselves with Jane and Hate in a support roll. The following list is what I have so far.

Don't forget Cutco knives...one of the first 'placed products' I noticed!

callyourcableoperator said...

I'm at the point where I'm ready to call AT&T and ask them to remove TLC from our cable service. Everyone's got a piece of this family at this point, I just can't stand it!

NT said...

I wonder when we will get a sneak peek at her new cook book. If she copies a recipe and only changes one item,is it still plagerism?

Mystical said...

On the "Turning Five" episode, I was sickened watching kate hog the process of emptying the pinatas. She did twice that we saw, but I am guessing it was probably done more. Remember the photo we saw of Cara crying while Kate looks at her in exasperation?

1. She demanded Jon let her empty one and he said no. Jon, I was proud of you.

2. When Cara hit a pinata down, Mady was in the process of picking it up, while Kate was making a wild dash (almost desperate)towards her to grab it out of her hands. So, she got her way and emptied another one.

Kate is something else....something so bad I get chills thinking about it.

sugarjay said...

Lora said...
I don't agree that the Gosselin children are being exploited. All you have to do is watch an episode to see how much fun they are having on their outings or even the way they are interacting with the camera crew.

Kate makes it clear that no child is forced to be filmed. Mady didn't want her braces to be put on while cameras rolled, and they weren't.
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Did we watch the same episode? So what if the cameras weren't there for when Mady got her braces. They said outright that she was embarrassed about her teeth, and then they took that picture/video thing of her teeth and put it on national television so everyone could see what the problem was. Then Kate made fun of her in the interview and "Hannie" even laughed about it.

Landis' Mom said...

Lora said...Mady didn't want her braces to be put on while cameras rolled, and they weren't.

But that didn't prevent her Mom from going on TV telling the world what jacked up teeth her daughter had.

Yes, Lora. Kate said how "perfect" Cara's teeth were and had awful and messed up Maddy's were.

Maybe the gawkers didn't see her get braces, but they certainly got a good look inside her mouth AND heard her mother yammer on about the wretched state of her teeth.
And get paid a pretty penny for doing so.... witch!

That IS child exploitation... and it needs to end.

konGOaway said...

I saw the clip when Emeril was at the house. They were filming Emeril and Jon from the other side of the island, where the kitchen table is. Kate came over and tried to push her way into the shot by handing Jon a new scraper. The next shot was of Kate over at the stove stirring two pots - and the cameras were behind her and she was trying to turn around while making the comment "I'll keep everything going over here" The way the kitchen is set up her back would be the only thing picked up if they were filming Emeril at the counter. I guess she will have the cooktop on the island facing the kitchen table. When they start focusing on her preparing meals from her crook book, she will be center stage. I wonder too if she will be doing "remote spots" like on rachel ray from home. Having the cooktop where Emeril and Jon were cooking would be easier filming.

diane090 said...

I came across an interesting article that I thought I'd share. If this is true, why then is TLC & 'her highness' Kate treating the public like idiots?



http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272626288.shtml

K8 ain't G8 said...

QUESTION FOR PSYCH EXPERTS!

I just looked up Bobby & Kenny McCaughey (the couple with septuplets whom Kate idolized).

I just read that two of their tups are named "Alexis" and "Joel".

"Alexis McCaughey" is listed as the first born tup girl (just like "Alexis Gosselin").

"Joel McCaughey" is listed as the last born tup boy(just like "Joel Gosselin").

Am I stretching this, or does anyone else find this weird?

It looks like Kate had an agenda well beyond anyone's imagination.

What do you all think?

wendyzr said...

ChinaMomof4 said...
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Wondering said:
MM2005: I can't answer your question, but I'll tell you what I thought was odd. Several times Kate made the comment, "I just had a feeling I couldn't conceive." What??? How is it that you "have a feeling? That never made sense to me that you could have a feeling even before consulting a Dr.
***********************************
It's impossible to explain rationally, but the same thing happened to me. My husband and I tried for 5 years to conceive, both naturally and with some fertility treatments, and I knew all along that I would not get pregnant. There was no medical reason; I just knew. We stopped trying and turned to adoption, and again, I knew that we would end up building our family that way. So as much as I don't like Kate, I can't argue with her on that point. Sometimes you just "know."
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OK but she was pregnant less than a year after they were married. so how much time went by of really TRYING to have a baby on their own?

I went through IVF and they told me I could not even try until we had at least a year of trying aggressively on our own without anything.

Like a month into her marriage Kate "knew"?

Me thinks Kate had her agenda even back that far.

bflohockeygirl said...

ChinaMomof4 said...
"It's impossible to explain rationally, but the same thing happened to me. My husband and I tried for 5 years to conceive, both naturally and with some fertility treatments, and I knew all along that I would not get pregnant. There was no medical reason; I just knew. We stopped trying and turned to adoption, and again, I knew that we would end up building our family that way. So as much as I don't like Kate, I can't argue with her on that point. Sometimes you just "know.""

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I agree - I also "knew" - I remember visiting a friend in hospital after she'd given birth, just after we started fertility treatments, and getting the thought, clear as day: "That will never be me."

And sure enough, it wasn't.

That said, most of us don't get to proceed on a "feeling" - we have to try the old-fashioned way for the allotted amount of time & submit to all that awful testing before a doctor will go ahead & prescribe fertility meds & perform IUI.

The fact that she was pregnant within a year of her wedding but still talked about her infertility has always annoyed the hell out of me.

wendyzr said...

NT said...

I wonder when we will get a sneak peek at her new cook book. If she copies a recipe and only changes one item,is it still plagerism?



Yes they made a big stink about Cindy McCain doing that with an Oatmeal Cooke recipe for Woman's Day during the election. But that was an election and the potential first lady.

Kate has already stolen recipes for the show right?

Lee said...

I REALLY hope there is no divorce. I just can't imagine, considering all the stress this family has experienced over the past 5 years, that anyone in that household can hold it together while the family is torn asunder. Kate sucks big time, Jon seems fairly useless but more sincere, and both are incredibly self-absorbed, to say the least. Yet, they are the only parents those sweet kids have. The kids are attached to and love BOTH their parents (even if they have a favorite). Jon and Kate, despite all we've seen, are not the worst parents in the world (in every community across America children are suffering far worse at the hands of their parents- with no witnesses). I believe the Gosselins when the say they want the best for their kids, they just don't seem to understand that the kids need the best of THEM.
If I could write the script for the next few months, I'd have Kate and Jon lock TLC out of their gated yard, and dump all the production equipment on the curb. I wouldn't let a single family member out of the gate for the entire summer. Steve Neild could make sure no one escapes. The only person allowed in would be the family therapist. Cancel all subscriptions, and unplug the tv and computers. Go old school, Gosselins, and maybe you'll find something you lost along the
way.

Not – A – Comment said...

Regarding Apple and the use of an iphone on the Jane and Height Infomercial; do they show H8 clearly using the phone? Do they show any Apple logo or label? Remember if you don’t pay your product is obscured.

As I see it; if the program continues on its present course viewership will only increase (see Jerry Springer). Lawsuits and government involvement could take years. Therefore we must stop the cash flow. Sponsors and advertisers must be discouraged. Kon, Figure 8 and The Lying Channel can’t get richer without these companies. The show will stop!

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